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2	Top posts of TwoXChromosomes categorized Satire: 100%	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/15 08:28 PM
2	What are common physical or emotional traits among incels? For starters, they're subscribed to TRP	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/15 08:18 PM
1	What do you think of Donald Trump? He is the embodiment of Redpill behavior. Is he a man you respect or would seek to emulate? Oyyyyy. This hurts to read. I almost pity you. What kind of childhood trauma would lead to you seeing The Donald as a role model?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 03:23 AM
6	How exactly does the blue pill think we can educate men not to get falsely accused of rape? And the sarcasm went over your head. /u/SomeStupidJerk was not saying that we seriously need to teach men not to be accused of rape, just flipping around a common-victim shaming tactic. (For what it's worth, I do think making sure women know some self-defense methods is a good idea, because no matter how much you say to a rapist "don't rape!" he's still going to do it.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 03:18 AM
6	Blue Pill: How does a man go about creating a potential relationship out of thin air? I think sometimes people underestimate the power of regular conversation when it comes to dating. You want a relationship? Talk! Respectfully compliment her – in an appropriate setting, when she doesn't seem busy – and if she's open to it, swap numbers. See if there's any common interests. Plan a date and see if it goes anywhere. You don't have to act like some stoic macho man, just be genuine and be friendly. If it doesn't work out, no, it's not unreasonable to be upset, as long as you don't tu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/15 03:07 AM
0	Are BPers mad at all that RP works? I'm not going to argue that there aren't RP tactics that work, because there are. I just believe that there's some... questionable elements of RP philosophy and its view of women, and if I were a man I would employ some of those tactics without subscribing to the beliefs of RP. Just as someone can have morals without being religious, someone can use sexual strategy without being RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/15 03:22 AM
1	Are BPers mad at all that RP works? Not speaking from experience given the fact that I am a female, but I do know plenty of guys who have done it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/15 02:55 AM
2	Are BPers mad at all that RP works? Nope. What is it like? A nice place, at least without you around. What if you just want to have sex with a lot of young women? Great for you! Still, that's possible without being a sexist asshole.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/15 02:49 AM
6	Are BPers mad at all that RP works? Have you ever gone outside? Lots of people are in happy relationships, not a lot of people are RP. You don't have to be a dick to have a love life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/15 02:45 AM
4	TRP suffers from "hot girl goggles" which completely explains their philosophy. Let me explain... Then explain asexuality. Plenty of asexuals have fulfilling romantic relationships without any sex involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/15 11:55 PM
3	TRP suffers from "hot girl goggles" which completely explains their philosophy. Let me explain... Sex is important in a relationship, but it's kind of... dehumanizing to say that sex is a girlfriend's "primary purpose". A significant other should provide love, caring, respect, and sex, and those things are all of fairly equal importance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/15 11:36 PM
8	TRP suffers from "hot girl goggles" which completely explains their philosophy. Let me explain... Sex is always the primary purpose of a girlfriend. That's it? Not love, respect, caring, etc? You must be real great on dates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/15 11:28 PM
1	CMV : I believe I can offer better advice than TRP. I didn't say that. I'm saying that if you want a LTR, then TRP is not the philosophy for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/15 10:46 PM
1	CMV : I believe I can offer better advice than TRP. If you want only to fuck, fine, do whatever you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone. But unfortunately a lot of TRP tactics DO hurt people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/15 02:51 AM
0	CMV : I believe I can offer better advice than TRP. Sex isn't everything, especially not to the average woman. Sure, she might be happy to fuck an "alpha male", but when it comes to a LTR, a kinder, more gentlemanly guy is a better choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/15 01:08 AM
2	CMV : I believe I can offer better advice than TRP. Well... she's a woman, for one. I am also a woman and feel the same way. The majority of women I have spoken to do as well. One of the annoying things about TRP is that the men believe they know everything about women despite not being women themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/15 09:59 PM
1	BPers, what is your sexual strategy? Just because it isn't normally a focus doesn't mean it shouldn't be. I think it's solid advice for dating regardless of gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/15 09:57 PM
1	BPers, what is your sexual strategy? What's wrong with confident women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/15 09:41 PM
3	BPers, what is your sexual strategy? I'm not a male myself but I feel like my strategy can be used by anyone regardless of gender. Be confident, be respectful, don't be an asshole, but don't be clingy or desperate. Lifting is cool if you want to do it, confidence is good, those things aren't what makes TRP a bad sexual strategy in our eyes. It's the negging and dread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/15 09:39 PM
1	Defining Femisinsm and TRP Feminism is the belief that women and men deserve equal amounts of respect and to be given the same opportunities. TRP is sexual strategy for men. However, some people from TRP take it beyond just sexual strategy and make it into a lifestyle, and some legitimately hate women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/15 09:34 PM
2	Hi i'm that 14 year old that asked for advice on TRP First of all, I'm glad you're taking a critical look at the information you're being given from both sides. It's a skill that not enough people have, myself included. Second, I definitely agree with the guy that sent you the PM. I don't really have much else to add. Third, Blue Pill isn't a philosophy. We just pick out the ridiculous things that some people from TRP say and talk/laugh about them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/15 01:54 AM
2	Redpill since HS. Stopped about a year ago, life is turning to crap. And the worst part is that my family is suffering. "I'm new to red pill and I was trying to disprove it (like a scientist, try to disprove your hypothesis to test if it is true)." - Sepean, 13 days ago He's still posting on MRP and TRP, so I doubt he's going to change any time soon if he already read ERP and decided to stick to the Red Pill.	/r/ExRedPill	03/04/15 08:30 PM
1	Redpill since HS. Stopped about a year ago, life is turning to crap. And the worst part is that my family is suffering. ... What? I'm not talking to OP. I clearly replied to /u/Sepean, who is a Red Piller.	/r/ExRedPill	03/04/15 08:09 PM
1	CMV: I don't believe men have anything to gain in marrying, and I want nothing to do with it. Desperateness is never attractive. Some people unfortunately don't realize that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/15 01:27 AM
3	If you didn't look like this in high school, you're a coping incel. I'm kind of new here, but I do recognize a lot of the frequent posters on the sub. OP is not one of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 02:53 AM
7	If you didn't look like this in high school, you're a coping incel. April... fools..?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 01:55 AM
1	Thought experiment: what if RPers used the same elusive, euphemistic language to describe what they do as women/most BPers do That's not re-wording at all. That's totally changing the meaning of the original comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 01:37 AM
1	In addition to "The Wall" there is also the "Skeletor Phase." TRP seems to be aware of it, but they haven't labelled it. Is there a real feminist plan for the Skeletor Phase? Everyone gets ugly when they age. /thread	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 01:32 AM
1	CMV: I don't believe men have anything to gain in marrying, and I want nothing to do with it. Meh. I'd be freaked out if someone got my name tattooed on their body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 01:31 AM
3	Men are more likely to engage in idiotic risk-taking behavior Let's not forget that TRP ignores any science that doesn't fit its view.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:50 AM
3	CMV: I don't believe men have anything to gain in marrying, and I want nothing to do with it. For some men, the symbol of ultimate commitment and love is what makes marriage so appealing. That's not the case for every man and it's obviously not the case for you (or many RP men, from what I've seen).	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:44 AM
9	CMV: A woman has default Sexual Appeal, just for being a woman, but a man does not. And female sexual lust wouldn't exist without male sex appeal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/15 12:15 AM
2	Check Your Privilege Men usually don't get harassed on the street, men don't get raped as much (though men who ARE raped receive less support than female rape victims), men are less likely to be abused in a relationship, men are less likely to be stalked, and men are more likely to get promotions. Source \| Source \| Source However, that's not to say women don't have privileges. They're more likely to win in a custody battle. They're less likely to be murdered or mugged. It's more accepted for women to display more ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:35 PM
1	Check Your Privilege As does the average white man. I don't see your point. Women also struggle with day-to-day issues. I'm not saying white women are victims of major oppression, and we definitely have some privileges over men, but we still face gender-based issues that men don't (catcalling/street harassment, sexism in the workplace, discouragement from certain jobs, etc). Men also face issues that women don't (divorce court bias, circumcision, pressure to be "manly", and such) so it's level, to an extent. Also, i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/15 10:22 PM
-1	Check Your Privilege Please explain how white women are more privileged than white men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/15 08:19 PM
-1	Check Your Privilege Are you really going to have a victim contest? Street harassment and robbing/mugging are both horrible fucking things and nobody should have to experience either of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/15 08:17 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Women's suffrage is part of the core values of feminism. I'm not going to continue to argue with such a stubborn person who refuses to acknowledge the facts even when they've been proven wrong. You want to think that you've "won" and that you've "proven those bitchy feminazis wrong yet again; men 1 women 0"? Go ahead, be my guest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 10:13 PM
0	Why the fascination with the red pill? I'm not /u/Lola_K, but I'm gonna step in here anyways: Can you give some examples of the amazing things, and what changes are you pushing for today? Uhm... the right to vote? The right to own land? Having jobs outside of the home? Haven't you ever taken a history class? Well, many men believe TRP has made positive changes to their lives. There's even a sub called ThankTRP. There's also a sub for men who have spat the red pill back up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 10:10 PM
1	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? MRA ≠ MGTOW.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 09:53 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Thank you for ignoring the strongest points in my comment! You've shown just how weak your argument is by cherry-picking mine. Bye!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 09:40 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? It is a sleight of hand because american feminists whine about trivial bullshit while there are women in other countries with REAL problems. Get out of here. Yes, and feminism as a principle supports those women and fights for them. There's plenty of real problems that women face in America as well. White middle/upper middle class feminism IS feminism in America. But it's not. There are plenty of American women of color who are feminists. Seriously, go on Tumblr or something, there's thousands o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 09:29 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Mentioning foreign feminists (those quotation marks are totally unnecessary) is not a sleight of hand as you never specified that you were talking about feminism in America. I also only brought up ONE non-American feminist, Malala Yousafzai; all the others are American. White feminism and feminism are VERY different. You cannot take an article about WoC voicing their opinions on WHITE feminism and claim they are opinions on feminism as a whole. There are bad apples in every group. Unfortunately,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 09:00 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Nice strawman! I never mentioned the MRM. If you don't follow the beliefs of a group, then you can't claim to be part of that group. Simple as that. Because she doesn't hold many of the core beliefs of feminism, she's not a good representation of feminism. Just as if "Bob the PUA wannabe" posts things that don't align with the beliefs of the MRM.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 08:54 PM
1	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Oh really? Explain that to the thousands of nonwhite feminists. Sojourner Truth, Florynce Kennedy, Sylvia Rivera, Mindy Kaling, Malala Yousafzai, hell, even Beyoncé Knowles. And don't forget the feminists in predominantly nonwhite areas like India, South American countries, the Middle East... Your ignorance is showing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 03:42 AM
2	RP: By the logic of evolutionary psychology, wouldn't a high-value woman want a male who can commit, someone who will provide for her and her children long-term, not someone who will "next" her once he gets the opportunity? Maybe sex isn't as important to him as it is to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 03:26 AM
1	RP: By the logic of evolutionary psychology, wouldn't a high-value woman want a male who can commit, someone who will provide for her and her children long-term, not someone who will "next" her once he gets the opportunity? I think this is "alpha fucks, beta bucks". Even then, I don't understand their logic. The whole concept of TRP is giving commitment and getting sex in return. So, if marriage is the highest form of commitment, doesn't that mean more sex? Why aren't guys actively trying to be betas if this is the case?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 03:23 AM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? You're confusing real feminism with rich white lady feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/15 03:12 AM
1	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Problem is... it's not. A strawman is twisting and reinterpreting someone's argument to make it easier for you to refute. That's not what I did at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 07:23 PM
-1	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. You have a very ignorant, anecdotally based, and scientifically ungrounded view of mental health and psychology. I give up. You're never going to learn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 07:21 PM
0	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Care to elaborate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 04:13 PM
0	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Do you seriously not understand what a strawman is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 04:12 PM
1	Is there a difference between who a female thinks she is attracted to, and who she really is attracted to? Shouldn't you ALWAYS get tested/use protection, though, for your own benefit and your partner(s) benefit(s)? Is your only reason behind avoiding passing on STDs to stop those evil "upper middle class white women" from stealing your money? If it is, that's kinda fucked up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 04:10 PM
0	Dog or Jewish Boyfriend? Not sure why this is on PPD. Is it because Lena Dunham is a "feminist"? (Side note: she's not. She claims to be one, but she molested her sister, the title of her book is "Not That Kind of Girl", and is completely dependent on men. All of those things are decidedly anti-feminist.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 03:39 AM
2	Is there a difference between who a female thinks she is attracted to, and who she really is attracted to? That was on TRP? So I'm assuming they were villainizing the woman, even though the man was the one who gave her HPV. If he didn't disclose that to her beforehand and didn't use a condom, and she got HPV, I think that's grounds for legal action. $5 million is a lot, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/15 03:27 AM
6	Do Traditional Masculine Gender Roles Hurt Men and Make Them Feel Inadequate? I'm a female myself, but I'll bite anyways. Yes! I know many a man who feels inadequate because of his body. Some men choose to be this way and are fine with it. But there's plenty of men who aren't, and keeping your emotions bottled up isn't good for anyone. So yes. I think this is a good thing to strive for regardless of gender. That being said, not everyone is a born leader. I don't really see this pushed onto men, though, so I'm gonna have to say no. Again, I'm not a male, so I could be wron…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 04:06 PM
2	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Withholding sex is a shitty thing to do, but it doesn't detract from self confidence or negatively impact the person emotionally. If your S/O is withholding sex, then by all means, break up with them, but don't fuck around with their mind because of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 03:45 PM
2	What do you think of a Stay-at-Home dad and Business Executive mother arrangement in a family? I see no problems with this. Every household is different, and so what situations work and don't work varies as well. If a guy wanted to be a stay-at-home dad, and I was able to support the family, that would be great! I don't dislike kids, but I'm not great around the house and I would probably lose my mind caring for kids 24/7. So, it would work for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/03/15 12:51 AM
1	My theory on creep shaming, Challenge My View Hate to break it to you, but most men aren't sexless, desperate people who will fuck anything with legs and a vagina.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 10:35 PM
8	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. "Negging, as it is called, is in essence a trick. The idea is to undermine a woman's confidence by making backhanded or snide remarks – give a compliment with one hand, and take away with the other." I would call that nasty, degrading, and being an asshole. You're TRYING to lower someone's self-esteem so that you can be in control. You are deliberately trying to hurt someone you are in a relationship with. If that's not emotional abuse then I don't know what is. Withdrawing your attention is fin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 10:24 PM
2	My theory on creep shaming, Challenge My View One of my big problems with TRP is when you guys assert that women can get all the dick they want, whenever they want. Sure, it might be a little easier for an average-looking girl to get a good-looking guy than it is for an average-looking guy to get a good-looking girl, but there still has to be mutual desire between the two. A girl can't just work her ~manipulative feeeemale magic~ on a guy who rejects her or isn't interested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 10:18 PM
17	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Men haven't been put in concentration camps and gas chambers because they were men. Men haven't been systematically murdered. Men haven't been denied the right to vote. Men aren't shamed for dressing a certain way. Men haven't been forced to stay at home, cook, clean, and raise children. Men aren't told they're "bossy" when they are being assertive and taking the lead in professional settings. Men don't get sexually harassed on the street, at least not often. Men aren't valued only for their loo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 10:13 PM
5	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Being an asshole to your S/O just for the sake of being an asshole is emotional abuse. You're saying nasty, degrading, baseless things because it makes you "keep frame" or whatever the fuck it is. Making your S/O believe that you are going to cheat on them or leave them is also emotional abuse. It's manipulation. The fact that you see negging and dread as somehow being "okay" kind of worries me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 10:01 PM
9	Blue pillers do the same things they criticize. They are narcissistic, childish, aggressive and needlessly confrontational. Except Jews have been the subject of genocide and long-term oppression. Men, on the other hand, have not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/15 09:56 PM
1	What do you think of a potential compulsory paternity test at birth? I'm not one for forcing procedures onto people, but I actually think it's a good idea – on paper, because as others have said, how the hell do you enforce it? Wouldn't get a good reaction from the public. I do however think men should be able to get a test done without consent of the mother, at any time, unless the child in question is 18 or older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 10:50 PM
1	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? You have a very twisted view of how relationships work. Women give sex because they want to have sex. Men give commitment because they love the woman. Obviously, you guys over at TRP are different... but you're hardly examples of average men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 10:02 PM
11	Is it possible for Women to fall into the Friend-zone? Women enjoy and desire sex just as much as men. The whole "gatekeepers of sex/commitment" thing is bullshit. Sex and commitment are not one-sided things, they have to be things that both people are willing to provide.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 12:05 AM
2	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... I won't argue about anthropology as it's not something I know anything about. I shouldn't have gotten involved with a subject that I haven't studied. Yeah, not if you know what you're talking about, but in a lot of cases you guys don't. For example: what women like/don't like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 11:07 PM
2	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... Yeah, whoops, I just looked that up. Sorry. I hadn't heard of those terms before and assumed it was just some Red Pill thing (it's hard to tell at times). However, there are studies to suggest that the age difference between Adam and Eve isn't that big: http://www.nature.com/news/genetic-adam-and-eve-did-not-live-too-far-apart-in-time-1.13478 Also, it's a little hypocritical of a Red Piller to call someone else "ignorant".	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 10:52 PM
3	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... That doesn't support your argument at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 10:40 PM
1	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... Edit: I'm an idiot	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 10:40 PM
2	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... After re-reading the data, and some research, I realize that I was wrong. However, so were you: Definition of HYPERGAMY: marriage into an equal or higher caste or social group Not a small number of men having sex with many women. That's polygyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 10:32 PM
2	Feminist leaning blue pillers, our dna records show that hypergamy is natural and normal. It wasn't so much the case during patriarchy, which seems to be a short period during which women decided the one man one woman system was better for them, now women are dismantling that ... I don't think you understand the data. This is saying that every man had sex with four or five women, not the other way around. Certainly not proof of female hypergamy which is what Red Pill guys moan about, and subsequently what we fine people over at TBP laugh at them for condemning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 09:42 PM
11	Do women want chaste men? I believe most men are intelligent, rational people. You are an outlier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 02:00 AM
3	Do women want chaste men? Thanks for further fueling my disgust towards TRP. You guys feel so entitled to sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/15 01:54 AM
3	Do women want chaste men? But what about virgin women, who are called prude?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 11:34 PM
4	Do women want chaste men? Slightly unrelated – but do you believe in AMALT? Seeing as how you believe in AWALT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/15 11:25 PM
7	Redpill since HS. Stopped about a year ago, life is turning to crap. And the worst part is that my family is suffering. You're a Red Pill guy, why are you even on this subreddit?	/r/ExRedPill	20/03/15 11:16 PM