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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 03:15 PM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 04:18 PM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 03:24 PM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:14 PM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:51 AM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 10:50 PM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:04 AM
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five10manlet/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 06:12 PM
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doesn't surprise me, height is almost everything to women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:59 PM
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Most people now meet online for both long-term relationships and hookups, so online IS in fact real life. Even if it were not and in the cases where it isn't, it would still affect IRL dating dynamics since it creates market pressures. Which is why women's standards for appearance and physicality have gone up, even for men they meet IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:48 AM
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This is true, Asian men were seen as exotic and good looking a long time ago. Then they were considered gross desexualized nerds for a long time, now women love Asian men again because of Korean pop music and TV shows. I think it's pretty self-evident that women's preferences are far less static than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:39 PM
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It is, compare things to 20 years ago, it mattered but never this much. If you say otherwise you have a shit memory or are utterly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:37 PM
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He has a decent bone structure (jaw/chin/cheekbones) but his eyes are very droopy and his face is weirdly asymmetrical, one of his eyebrows is much higher than the other, his facial symmetry is FUCKED, and his face looks small. Obviously above average because of the bone structure though but still many flaws. If he were average height he would not be worshiped by women like this, he would not have this sort of fame. Compare him to an actually super handsome guy who has facial symmetry like Henry…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:34 PM
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a lot of guys still like petite women it's just that the "thicc" fetishists are very loud and shout down men into petite women as "gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:33 PM
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This height thing is getting so out of control, it's a social contagion which has reached insanity. It's like I live in the worst time in history to be a guy under 6' where tall guys are automatically considered sexual gods and you have to look like a model as a sub 6 footer to have a similar SMV to an ugly tall guy. I remember what it was like to grow up in the 00s and it was never like this, height was a bonus but it was never this bad, and there was such a thing as "too tall" (6' to 6'2 was c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:25 PM
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both are symptoms of high mutational load
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 04:52 AM
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LOL, ok buddy boy.
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/23 03:57 AM
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cardio is good for your body, just weight training and bloatmaxxing with no cardio like lots of gymcels do is probably neutral and even possibly harmful
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 10:35 PM
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I'd like to fix my professional life and become more cultured. I want to learn some languages and become more well-read in general.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:17 PM
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there is also research that shows that more intelligent people retain neuroplasticity for longer
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:52 AM
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imagine how much he would slay today, I don't even want to think about it
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 08:59 PM
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The reason is chiefly because women would never listen to actual realistic, pragmatic dating advice that would help them either get the Chads they want or be the vampires they want to be because it would require confronting some uncomfortable truths. Look at Kevin Samuels. Even though he pushed the "high value" cope stuff, he still was somewhat willing to discuss things like looks, height, P size, etc so he was somewhat blackpilled (and probably far more than he let on since it's not profitable …
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 01:11 PM
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Because it's the perfect example to demonstrate how personality is a cope and the primacy of looks above all.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:47 PM
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Yeah, I actually agree with this particular point you made. There's this idea in blackpill spaces that highly successful guys are just doing it to impress women and win over the girl in high school that curved them for Chad, like one of those poorly-drawn EurasianTiger comics (funny though they may be). That's just not true. A lot of them want the money and lifestyle, were just naturally successful in school because of a high IQ, or are narcissistic and want a prestigious career to feel superior…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:44 PM
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Meeks playing a character literally named Chad that cuckolds a bug-eyed blackcel gymcel manlet betabuxxer. He and the writers have to be eminently aware of the memes and are just having a laugh about it at this point. They literally designed an entire made-for-tv movie around blackpill memes because they found it amusing.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 12:32 PM
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Hamudi said it's over if you're not 6 foot and that the standard would one day be 7 foot.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 11:07 PM
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Bit combative aren't we? It was just a simple question.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 11:06 PM
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why don't you take levothyroxine?
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 10:15 PM
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The USSR was secular and yet didn't have these problems. Seems to be a problem with neoliberal capitalism and extreme social liberalism, not secularism.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:12 PM
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he has a recessed upper midface/paranasal, looks sunken in, lefort 2 could fix it
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 06:31 PM
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I had low self-esteem, that's why I put out for guys in college but can't with my husband LOL, the blackpill always comes to collect. Care to elaborate more on this?
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:38 AM
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Yes, look at how even blackpillers worship male models like Lachowski and argue about them like it's some sort of sports team. It's so sad. Really makes me think bad things about the apparent male nature to simp and cuck for Chads and women.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:50 PM
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Meanwhile you can be a genuine pedophile as Chad and they'll defend you Remember rippedrichandincel's classic tinder experiment where he made a fake Chad profile that claimed to have been convicted for child rape? And women were still receptive?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:49 PM
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Cope. Height filters, income filters, blah blah blah. They're premium features, but as long as you pay for them (many women do, which is how the apps are profitable), they exist. In fact the fact that women are willing to pay for them is the exact reason why they are monetized.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:02 AM
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water
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:52 AM
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LOL the guy who made this tweet is a SFcel, it's obvious. "High trust community" in his twitter profile, and he linked to some nationalist song about "saving Europe". He supports literal Chad harems and says he's a eugenicist who supports polygamy. This is what SFcels have to offer white men - be slaves for women because the white race demands it, while they salivate over Nordic Chad's genetics and consider him superior to you. Just be a second class citizen tradcuck and break your back to do wh…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:34 AM
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Tradcucks want you to die and sacrifice for nationalism: this is the end result. You are expected to give your body and life to "the cause" while women are allowed to fuck and suck Chad as your corporeal form is blown to bits.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:53 PM
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Nobody actually cares about you. This used to happen more in the past, where the Chad would try to help his ugly loser friend get sex, now people would see that as 'toxic', promoting incls, entitlement, etc.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 07:22 PM
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Weekly? No, try monthly or yearly. But yeah, my favorite is how they think they're Chads ("Chad here") because they have a girlfriend or wife.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 06:46 PM
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That's ok, I'll enter my prime when I'm 60 and attractive 20yo women will pursue me because I'll be a master of frame and dread game.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 05:25 PM
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Latin America, Asia, geomax destinations basically
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 02:50 PM
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it depends on how you define it
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:52 PM
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I used to blame myself for not injecting myself with HGH peptides when I was 16, since I knew about it and sort of wanted to do it, but it's ridiculous to expect a teenager to turn his body into a pharmacy
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:39 PM
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You're probably better looking than you think, and also people acknowledge the validity of numbers game if you're not totally repellent.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:34 AM
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There are looksmaxing communities when men pine for extreme jaw surgeries and getting their legs sawn in half so they can gain a few inches of height. A THIRD of male tinder users have used anabolic steroids. There are even more men going to the gym naturally. Yet women think they put in more effort into their appearance by slathering on makeup. LOL.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:57 PM
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Yes people say there's some sort of "miscommunication between men and women", no, women are communicating just fine: they're saying their true feelings that they consider guys under 6' and who aren't good looking less than trash, and the widespread dating market collapse and failure is a consequence of that. The main source of miscommunicating is when women lie to subchads to fleece them for resources despite lacking physical attraction to them (and having had lots of casual sex with Chads where…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:05 AM
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The "passport bros" shouting about geomaxxing from the rooftops of social media ruined it for everyone. Now there are 6'2 Aussie Chads partying in Thailand and American Chads and Tyrones going to Colombia. You have to compete with the same tall handsome ripped slayers that cuck you back home. Or go and find more and more obscure locations, like traversing through the jungles in Apocalypse Now.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:53 AM
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I really do agree. Once you're past 6', facial looks start mattering far less and height carries you. If you're 6'3+ just don't be ugly. Even Todd Thundercock got some girls from dating apps because of his height.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 11:26 PM
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how tall and good looking are you?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:32 PM
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I agree completely. It is very different than 10 years ago. I really think the only group which still has a substantial ethnic tax are South Asian men. Blacks aren't struggling, Latinos aren't, Arabs aren't, and increasingly Asians are not. Even then the more attractive ones do fine with women as long as they are not immigrants and are physically attractive, although the more light-complected ones will have more success on average. Just be goodlooking and tall.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:14 AM
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Most of these evolutionary theories about behavior are based on totally nonrigorous conjectures and unfalsifiable hand-waving weak intuition. "Designed to" because in some idealized theoretical vacuum something "should" be this way. In reality men have all the genetic material of women, and male/female children are very similar mentally and then develop more sexual dimorphism in response to hormones. Women also have male hormones as part of their hormonal profile and vice versa. Any mental patho…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:05 AM
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I disagree completely. They enjoy sex with Chad. A lot of the time they just enjoy it. You buy too much into redpill narratives if you truly believe this. Women having casual sex is damaging period. Studies support this. Cope, studies show sex reduces stress and makes you happier
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 01:17 AM
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It's so funny how these types of JBW posts are dripping with anti-white sperging. JBW believers (like the ones on that entire universe of Asian seethe subreddits like /r/aznidentity /r/asianmasculinity etc) are generally resentful ethnics that hate White people and need to construct this narrative of ill-gotten sex and White supremacy despite wanting to live in countries founded by the White man and coveting White women, and even believe in bizarre eugenic racial theories about AMWF hapas being …
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:55 PM
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It's obnoxious when people misunderstand what the BP is, or even deliberately misconstrue it. Such as saying women only like "tall handsome guys with money" (the BP says that the money thing isn't all that important as people think), or bringing up PUA and Andrew Tate. The BP is broadly just about genetic determinism in general and how looks (incl. height) are the main factor in your social and dating success and actually being desired by women. Anyone who is honest and did more than 5 minutes o…
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 03:19 PM
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hubbycel
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:00 PM
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Tall guys get everything they want and it's still not good enough for them. They say height doesn't matter and they know 5'2 balding Indian janitors who slay but then complain that women are attracted to them for their height. Unbelievable.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:54 PM
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you need an aromatase inhibitor since you're fat, it's stunting your growth
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:05 PM
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get on HGH
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:05 PM
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blasted HGH and test with an AI in puberty so I could grow to 6'+ and get a more masculine face not wasted my youth and just put myself out there, tried to be more sociable instead of coping about being an "introvert" prude finish surgerymaxxing as quickly as possible put more effort into my career and education rather than wasting time not let myself go physically and continued being lean
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:54 AM
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That's not really a blessing, it's a sign of a defective organism.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:57 PM
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you can think that, but you're only going to limit yourself and your opportunities further, by associating only with other complete failures you become even more unrelatable and weird
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 06:17 PM
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If she made me commit, tapdance, and cuck to have sex with her while letting handsome Chads blow her out in ONSes without having to do any of that then I would be very angry because that means the relationship is exploitative towards me and she doesn't actually find me physically attractive like she found her short-term lovers. If we started off by having a one night stand/sex on the first date, I definitely wouldn't be pleased about it, but I'd be significantly less upset because I got the same…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:46 PM
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girth is ok, length lacking, it's probably acceptable, far from ideal
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:12 PM
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what is your height
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:20 PM
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Too individually variable, depends on if you can handle it. I knew blackpillers who self deleted. I know others who looksmaxxed and improved their lives.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:58 AM
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nobody uses those reddit tier insults IRL, it's almost always "small dick", "virgin", "short", "ugly", "napoleon complex", "no bitches", or maybe if they don't want to talk about physical traits or sex life then "loser", "mommy issues", or "who hurt you"
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:27 AM
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Women are very homophobic, even the biggest prog LGBT "ally" wymyn are disgusted by bisexual men and consider them disgusting freaks then justify it by saying "it's their preference!!" while screaming at other women calling them racists if they say they're only attracted to Chad, or Tyrone, or whatever particular race if they have a certain preference or fetish or whatever you want to call it. And even bi women who talk about how LGBT they are and cry about how lesbians are biphobic are themselv…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:25 AM
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imagine dying for this lmfao
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:22 PM
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no matter how much Chad abuses them or their friends, they still can't bring themselves to be angry at Chad because they adore him for his looks, so they have to collectivize the blame as the thought of blaming a good-looking Chad who gives them tingles upsets them
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:25 PM
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This is what I've been saying, but once you get into the higher numbers they're effectively synonymous
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 07:56 AM
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I don't think so and even if so it doesn't matter because there are a lot of these rightoid BAP adjacent girls now who say similar things.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:34 AM
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Yes it's a terrible height. It's over for 5'10 manlets unless they have great faces.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:25 AM
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Yes unless you are very good looking.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:21 AM
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If you earnestly believe that, then you are an idiot.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:19 AM
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I'm legitimately 5'10 and can confirm it's a terrible height.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:19 AM
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I think many women aren't even aware of how they treat attractive vs unattractive men. Even if they obsess over tall handsome guys they're genuinely convinced they're not that shallow and that if men jestered enough they would find them attractive, so it's ultimately the men's fault. Or they think they liked Chads because of "rizz" or personality. Things like that. Just a profound unawareness of their own nature and impulses. /u/DesolateDanse
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 05:02 AM
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I don't really agree even though I'm blackpilled. Some would, sure, others would become resentful. I've seen people that hate themselves, their parents, women etc for their genetics and inability to get women and missing out on important aspects of life because they are unattractive. Not everyone is going to take that well. I think it would be better for a lot people though because they'd stop blaming themselves and make peace with it, but others will get upset.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:52 AM
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If you're very good looking. Then you can have a good sex life at 5'10. But even that's a stretch, you'd slay much more if you were good looking AND 6', and if you are average at 5'10? Then it's over. It's really not a good height these days and you will be severely penalized in the eyes of women. With much more severe penalties every inch below 5'10 that you are.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:51 AM
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why are you attracted to fatties?
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 05:07 PM
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Do you ever make an argument or refutation of anything or just speak in platitudes?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:57 PM
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I would rather be a third worlder Chad that could easily get casual sex than a wealthy man from the first world who was unattractive. Any day. So no.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:21 PM
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Unless your penis socialized with their vaginas we don't give a fuck. Shut up. This a sub about sexual dynamics, not talking about exchanging pleasantries with coworkers.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:19 PM
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most people on there don't know what the fuck they're talking about he'll just get told to self delete by blackgymmax and be given horrible advice by some others
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 10:31 PM
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careful, JBW copers are so utterly delusional they think a 5'8 white manlet can slay and will do just as well or perhaps even better than a 6'2 Tyrone or Chang
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 08:08 PM
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White (Southern European)
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 03:25 AM
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It's hard to say. There would have to be something in it for me. But even so, it could easily ruin the marriage.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:35 AM
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nah even 6' high tier normies get approached by women, you don't need to be gigachad
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:51 AM
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Do other women seem to take Chad for granted and think his features (looks, 6'+ height, etc) are average/unremarkable in your experience? While they gas up each other and say they're all 8+s in attractiveness?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:03 AM
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Even so, in the latter case the sex is transactional and tantamount to prostitution. They don't actually want it.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:26 PM
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One of the best posts I've ever read on here.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:21 PM
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You're very smart, I'm impressed you realized all this at your age and had the integrity to admit it aligns with reality instead of just denying it. I've talked to a couple women like you, and it's funny, because they're the types who are better at locking down a Chad because they realize Chad's scarcity and value unlike the vast majority of women - who think Chad is merely average and expendable or that they're equal because Chad was willing to slay them off tinder without commitment. Unlike th…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:16 PM
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Good post. Bluepillers and feminist simps would always talk about how awful 'nice guys' were and how they weren't truly nice because they 'expected sex'. The underlying implication is that the nice guys weren't truly kind and selfless enough to be attractive. They still believe in the strawman of the nice guy ideology: that women are angelic beings attracted to kindness. Physicality isn't important. Just be nicer. If you wonder why that didn't work, you weren't nice enough because a nice guy wou…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:13 PM
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remember from /r/chadfish before it got banned when there was a fake Chad profile who said he hadn't showered for a month and women still wanted to fuck him LOL
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:22 PM
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I am not a virgin.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:27 PM
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I remember seeing this tinder screencap from a 6'6 guy where the woman's profile said "no hookups, serious relationships only" then she straight up said she would hook up with him if he had a big dick
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:10 PM
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I remember being 13 and my distant Chad cousin (who in retrospect was really annoying) in his early 20s showing me all the pics of beautiful women he slayed on his phone (it was one of the original iPhones). It was like a wall of nudes of different college girls. I was asking him questions about them, and sort of elated given my own incipient sexual attraction towards girls, thinking that was in my future. That one day I too would get that same view with my own two eyes and get to experience tha…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:50 PM
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It may be grim, but life is indeed grim. And yes, I am a defeated man. I sincerely hope you're doing well with her and that you enjoy each other's company, but based on your height I do question the nature of your relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:33 PM
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lol I find it funny how you automatically assume all blackpillers have no sexual experience
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:26 PM
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I am so thankful that I don't seem to have the genes for it - I even took pure DHT and didn't lose any hair. I just have this peace of mind that it'll never be a problem for me, which would be horrible to have in addition to everything else I have to deal with. My heart goes out to all baldcels.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 04:16 AM
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No, there's more nuance than just that binary. But not that much more. Women will still compare you to the best gigachad they've ever had, even if you're Chad. That's just how it goes. The oofy doofy can be attractive enough for them to have a decent sex life but not enough where she would have had casual sex with him, i.e. above average and 5'11, or maybe he has a huge P that gives her massive orgasms which makes her come back for more all the time, but these are exceptions and the same princip…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 03:04 AM
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Without sounding too harsh, because you're a cuckold provider and emotional tampon for a woman who isn't physically attracted to you? Now go to a nightclub and try to take a girl home. Nobody thinks a long term relationships are a counterexample to anything. We know ugly, short, unattractive guys can cuck and tapdance for long enough to get into a one-sided relationship with a Becky on a temporary (or not) sabbatical from Chad cock. You're not saying anything groundbreaking here. Increasingly lo…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:32 PM
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One of? It is THE biggest priority.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:27 PM
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I would give him aromasin and shoot him up with HGH so he could become 6', so no.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 08:03 PM
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Exactly, even though a low BC woman is generally preferable for an LTR, the vast majority of men will never be able to obtain that. There is an economic supply and demand issue. The only people who will realistically marry virgins are very attractive Chads who can meet the standards of a woman that waited for one, men with status in religious communities, those from third world religious countries, geomaxxers (even then very few and most of these women will lie about their virginity status), or …
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:37 PM
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bad analogy
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:42 AM
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I need them to actually want me. Prostitution wouldn't make me actually desirable to these women on a physical level.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:32 AM
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Same. I just want to slay after my surgeries. I don't really give a fuck about bodycount as long as they don't have STDs, I just want to get with many women and have fun, party, and enjoy what little remains of my youth. NO long term relationships. After suffering my entire teenage years and young adult life miserable and alone and lying to myself I didn't need people or sex to be happy while agonizing over what I missed out on and could not obtain, with extremely infrequent access to sex and in…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:22 AM
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Sorry, I don't agree. At all. People would be actually holding them more accountable if all the discourse around this entire topic was instead about how they give up sex easily for physically attractive tall Chads while making non-Chads go through ridiculous courtship, buxxing, and emotional tamponry only to end up in mechanical boring sex, faked orgasms, or even dead bedrooms. Rather than "big sex number bad!!1". And people should know how Chads have casual sex with a woman FIRST, THEN make her…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 01:41 AM
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Yes, exactly, most inkies (besides the true inkies who are beyond salvation due to genuine actual sub5 ugliness or <5'7 manlet height) know if they buxxed and cucked long enough they could get an LTR. They want genuine physical attraction and for women to actually want the physical act of sex with them like they did for Chad. Bluepillers contort what inkies say into an unrecognizable strawman as though inkies have some hardline stance where they literally do not believe short/ugly/bald/fat men h…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 01:08 AM
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this is just viscerally repugnant on a primal level
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:59 AM
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What's the story there?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:27 AM
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You sterilized yourself, congratulations.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:26 AM
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LOL, he's not even her backup. She's seeing Chad on the side guaranteed.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:13 AM
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Yes. My existence will have been a failure if I do not have them.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 11:52 PM
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mogger
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 11:41 PM
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yes the match and retention rate is way lower for chadfishes nowadays than it used to be, standards just keep increasing and getting more brutal
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 08:18 PM
6

not a single argument, just rambling and platitudes with no evidence
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 06:43 PM
1

If you still think like this I don't really think you're truly blackpilled. More redpilled.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 05:57 PM
2

That's what most of the men here do, tell themselves stories rather than acknowlege anyone else's reality. No, that's what YOU do. WE post countless proofs of physical attributes being #1 when it comes to getting sex and relationships. Scientific studies, chadfish tinder experiments, citing the increasing sexlessness and loneliness for men that you bluepillers said wasn't happening (until it did), and so on and so forth. Like here, your "note" is just a fiction you made up based on a generalizat…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 05:45 PM
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The ick threshold is higher for Chad but yes. I do think the requirements for behavior and social success are higher nowadays than previously, even for Chad. Chad will always be able to slay, but years ago you could make a chadfish on tinder and slay while saying ridiculous things using mirror selfies and other selfie pics. Nowadays you can't really do that anymore. Even Chads need good photos with friends, pets, etc in which they appear well-adjusted and sociable and can't act strangely while c…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 05:22 PM
1

People can quite easily tell a 2 inch difference especially when that 2 inch difference differentiates between 2 of the most common heights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:56 PM
1

Doubtful.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 03:17 PM
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Redditors are incapable of applying any understanding of statistics and generalities and how they affect society to something they don't like or that which makes them uncomfortable, like incls. You'll say "women prefer tall men" for example and they'll say THAT'S NOT TRUE WOMEN AREN'T A MONOLITH I KNOW A WOMAN THAT DATED SHORT GUYS (note: the "short guys" were 5'9 and she would still prefer a taller one but is still willing to deign to have sex with exceptional manlets) but they don't take into …
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:22 PM
12

Watch them blame men and pornography, video games, lack of maturity, etc. Never women and their Chad-only standards like "666".
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 01:06 PM
3

Things have changed significantly since that time. Look at tiktok. Women's idea of a "short guy" is someone who is 5'10.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:45 PM
10

There is no evidence of this alleged mass rape of Israeli women by Hamas. Notice how not a single rape video came out but 'rape' has been in every major article talking about Hamas since the incursion. There is literally NO EVIDENCE for it but its common 'knowledge' because it was repeated so often.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:43 PM
2

Remember in the 2000s and early 2010s when feminists said that feminism is just equality between the sexes and that if women were advantaged in some way then feminists would oppose that? #heforshe and such. That was just optics and propaganda to try and pander to men at the time. Recently feminism has been unabashedly in the public eye what it really was always all about: simple base female tribalism which just wants to advantage women whenever possible even if that's to the disadvantage of men.…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:35 PM
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There is so much evidence that physical intimacy is necessary and a lack of it is certainly psychologically distressing if not damaging and traumatizing. Vows of celibacy were taken very seriously as major spiritual undertakings in various world religions (various kinds of Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc), of course reddit bluepillers and women will act as though it's something trivial and that sex adds nothing to your life. Of course, they would never stop having sex, because they are lia…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 12:01 PM
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Christ, that's even worse than I expected. I'm so sorry you had to grow up with such a fucked up family. It's like you were raised with atomic blackpills force-fed down your throat.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:09 AM
13

Let me guess, he's your older brother because your mom got impregnated by that Tyrone, then found a beta provider (your father) to provide for your brother after Tyrone pumped and dumped her with a child?
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 01:30 AM
12

brutal genetic recombination for you to end up here and him to be a Chad
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 01:08 AM
1

I don't agree, it has nothing to do with modern culture but it is something deeper about human nature. The entire point is that nobody cares about 'putting in the work', it's repulsive compared to people who are naturally gifted and talented.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 11:22 PM
1

we already have a term for this, it's called "oofy doofy"
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 07:17 PM
0

The responses you received were rational. It's ludicrous to suggest dating men to straight guys. I feel having to be in great shape is an issue of expectation and porn, but dont realise they are 'actors' and do not represent reality. Yet people still idolise and lust for an ideal. People are not attracted to average bodies in reality. It's just human nature and the blackpill. The average American is fat. Without porn, would gay men find fat guys extremely attractive? No.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:35 PM
13

You already know what a Chad is, it's simply a tall and physically attractive man.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:25 PM
7

I did, because I am bisexual, it was also difficult and I experienced even more rejection. Being gay is not that much easier, you can get casual sex with sex addicts that are addicted to meth and huffing poppers and probably get aids from that. But if you actually want to date or have sex with non degenerate psychos it's similarly brutal out there. You CANNOT be fat whatsoever.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:21 PM
12

Look at Hamza's ear now vs in his old videos. He obviously had plastic surgery on his deformed ear (otoplasty) to bring it in closer to his head and was insecure about it, which is why he wore that robe over his ears. But he will attack blackpillers and promote hitting the gym instead of surgery.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 12:59 PM
1

I've even had some decent discussions with rational, liberal feminist types who are starting to take men's issues deadly seriously. LOL!
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 12:57 PM
1

you future as an oofy doofy
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:22 PM
3

MSTOW cope. Also, that upper right portion of the image as well as the baby are a bit different from how I remember them.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 03:42 PM
1

That’s not entirely true because these things are somewhat correlated due to assortative mating but yes the Chads that have everything are still incredibly scarce
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 05:03 PM
1

/r/shortguys was my favorite until they banned me
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 04:11 AM
2

all those anti-white hapa communities are huffing pure cope, if they looked like Keanu Reeves or Nathan Adrian they would be slaying
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 11:33 PM
4

should have just led some of them on by feigning interest in order to get laid
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 10:40 PM
1

Pro bodybuilders generally aren't very bright. I've read about these sorts of things though, yes.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 09:41 PM
1

autism seems overdiagnosed, it was the fad disorder for a while, most of these men claiming autism are self-diagnosed and are just poorly socialized and socially unsuccessful
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 05:02 AM
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Yes, they only see you as a betabux or emotional tampon. The physical attraction needs to be there, enough for her to have sex with you without any exchange of resources or time.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:27 AM
1

I have OCD yes
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 03:22 AM
5

don't forget books for children like Harry Potter and the Hunger Games while guys who aren't even that into reading pick up books on philosophy or Blood Meridian or something
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:54 AM
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Redpillers think women are more stupid than they actually are. All this stuff about women being an idiot like a child and easy to manipulate or game is complete cope. Women are very clever, especially socially. They know what you're trying to do with "game", they just tolerate the stupid PUA cope if they guy that approached them is hot even though they know it's contrived because they want to get fucked too.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 12:39 AM
0

I am 5'6 and still have been able to get laid and I live in eastern europe. Come to America and press your luck before you run your mouth.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:12 PM
4

The only people that think 5'10 is enough are: midgetcels resentful of us 5'10 guys because they are undeniably doomed and somehow think going from super extra undesirable to regular undesirable would have saved them 5'10 guys in denial tall humblebraggers idiots, who think the "average" has anything to do with what women find attractive Women straight up say it's inadequate now and make fun of 5'10 guys on tiktok. People make jokes about 5'10 men and consider it a short height.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:53 PM
1

Of course it's largely genetic but not entirely. Eating a protein-rich diet full of nutrient-dense foods (note: not the same as "healthy foods") does cause you to grow more, and I am broadly a believer in genetic determinism. To grow taller than you would otherwise, you want to maximize your levels of IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor 1) and have an adequate intake of minerals as you are growing. There are increasingly many teenagers injecting HGH to grow beyond where they would have under norma…
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:45 PM
3

People that obsess over female virginity and such need to realize these things. Sure, it won't generally be as bad as a non-virgin woman (note that I said generally, in fact it can often times be worse because they are more curious about Chad since they've never been with one) because she hasn't had an actual taste of Chad intimately, but the relationship will still suck and be joyless without physical attraction even if she is more dutiful and demure and perhaps even respects you.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:35 PM
1

That's good for growth though. Chicken nuggets = protein, and corn and soda raise insulin which cause higher IGF-1.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 03:17 PM
3

it's based on MANY different things androgen receptor sensitivity androgen receptor density in muscle tissue, as you noted testosterone levels SHBG levels cortisol levels IGF-1 levels and receptor myostatin/follistatin many others https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7999090/
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 11:39 PM
2

It's not a lie at all. Most gymcels pretend like it is because of the crossover with this obsessive culture of "self improvement" and blaming yourself for everything, but the gain in muscle in response to training is absolutely tremendous for different individuals. Genetics are king.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 07:59 PM
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People will just say to eat more and 'bulk', but honestly if you've been genuinely going to the gym 6 days a week, put in the time, and barely saw results after a year? The root cause is almost certainly either that your genetics aren't suited to muscle building or you have low testosterone. Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter much for getting women unless you look legitimately waifish, just stay lean/low bodyfat with the small amount of muscle you have gained.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 07:58 PM
5

No, fuck tradcuckery, it's slavery.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 05:11 PM
1

I looked very young then went through a very stressful period of my life which aged me rapidly, especially my eye area. It makes me sick to look in the mirror. But not as dramatic as something from normie to sub5, no. But I had a very attractive eye area that made me stand out despite my other facial flaws, and now I just don't look good anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:31 PM
1

lol, so true
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:08 AM
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twitter openly has women shitting on ugly and short men constantly youtube has lots of blackpill content and even popular normie vids talking about height 4chan is largely blackpill besides the /fit/ and /pol/ self improvement copers reddit by process of elimination
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 01:43 AM
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You said I can't comment, and I really have no comment, I'm just in agreement. Everything you said is completely true. It's a terrible height. Women are not attracted to average, average height = short, average face = ugly, average dick = small, average income = poor. Women on OKCupid rated 80% of men below average, they don't "see" averages, they see the elite and that's it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:39 PM
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At 5'10 u should be fine dude. Horrible cope. And basically exactly average or just an inch below average for the tallest people in the world(Europeans). Women don't want average, they consider it to be short.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:34 PM
1

"Timepig" is an amazing term, honestly, women these days don't even need money since they make it themselves and young women in the workforce outearn young men. You can't even really be a buxxer or paypig anymore unless you have genuine wealth. Most relationships are timepig ones where the man spends his time being her servant.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:09 PM
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Many. Instagram is surprisingly how a lot of people meet now, especially when women pursue extremely handsome or rich guys by "sliding in the DMs".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:00 PM
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It is most definitely not.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 06:35 PM
35

This is true, people cope and say "social media isn't real life". Over half of relationships start online now and obviously people seeing things influences them (otherwise the entire field of advertising wouldn't exist), so even if social media itself isn't real life, it has a large effect on real-world interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:52 PM
5

I'm more upset and traumatized by missing out on high school slaying. Constant low commitment low expectation sex with not a care in the world.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 05:13 PM
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to make more money
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 05:11 PM
10

I don't even like his vids or agree with his ratings (I think he's a bad rater), I just don't support doxxing and this idea that anyone making money is "le grifter who must be doxxed and exposed".
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 04:42 PM
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it's not wrong for a blackpill content creator to monetize things by doing face ratings, as far as business practices go that's totally reasonable, however JAL doxxing WW was inexcusable - he forever ruined WW's life so he could make clickbait to promote PUA stuff
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 04:02 PM
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John Anthony sells a 1500 dollar PUA pdf and insults and 'exposes' other people to call more attention to his PUA business. It's silly to call anyone a "grifter" just because they make money like Wheat Waffles and the face ratings, and John Anthony childishly doxxed and lashed out at him because he gave him a low rating.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 03:51 PM
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at least you admit it man, props to you for telling the truth about this instead of being in denial like all the other tall guys
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 03:23 PM
1

Not that instant second, no, but quickly.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:56 AM
2

Yes, exactly, a good example being "delay your text messages so she thinks you're busy/more important (LOL)". Not only was this never good advice, but now women can just find Chad #18923749812 instantly if you're not responsive, so you should respond immediately.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 02:11 AM
2

I'll get flamed for this but SOME of the PUA stuff is legit in terms of treating getting laid like a sales funnel and some other legit advice (like always close quickly, don't waste time, etc). The problem is 99% is scammy cringy garbage that will probably make you WORSE, and looks are of course #1 by far, not only in terms of initial interest but maintaining it. There is some small amount of wisdom, believe it or not. When I read the stuff about closing quickly from Roosh V it actually really b…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 01:55 AM
1

because if they were to admit that it would implicitly state that there are incentives for men to not support feminism and a sexual free market
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:35 PM
1

must be nice to be tall and get what you want in life
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:31 PM
2

no, redditors (and liberals in general) are mostly racist against whites and worship minorities
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:30 PM
1

because it feels cathartic
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:29 PM
3

who gives a fuck as long as there's no consequences to your reputation
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:29 PM
1

Post-SRS? Ew, no. Penis would be ok.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:15 PM
2

sounds pretty fun not gonna lie
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 08:03 PM
1

No idea, I haven't geomaxxed yet.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:49 PM
1

The ones in geomax areas like Thailand are generally just fem gay guys without any sort of deep longing to be a woman, they just have a culture where non stereotypically masculine gay men are pressured to become 'ladyboys' or whatever there. In Iran and much of the Islamic world this is also the case, transitioning is forced upon gays, in places like Southeast Asia it's more social pressure.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:45 PM
1

Maybe, definitely blowjob. They don't like using their penises though. I would much prefer a twinkish guy however.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 04:33 PM
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meanwhile Chad or Tyrone could take her to the McDonald's drive through before getting McHead in the car then going back to her place to fuck her brains out
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 12:45 AM
1

It's not about you having 'issue' with it or not. Bluepillers only tell you how you should get in a relationship by jestermaxing and having a great personality. They never tell you how to have casual sex with women from nightclubs or dating apps.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 11:21 PM
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brutal lesbianpill - women being more attracted to other women than subchad men
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 11:20 PM
3

Honestly if I was under 5'10, I would probably rope at that point. 5'10 is around the minimum height where life is kinda tolerable for men, despite being an incel. Yeah I agree, if I were shorter I think I would have roped or had LL, it's just not a tolerable existence.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:02 PM
3

a lot of 5'10 guys are honest about how much it sucks compared to being 6', it's the spiteful ones under 5'8 that think it's a "good height" and live in a world of denial where 5'10 is attractive to women, at 5'10 you need to be extremely handsome just to have a chance
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:48 PM
4

think about it: self-deletion
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:45 PM
0

lol, get mad
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:45 PM
3

I know, that's what I've been saying, 5'10 is a terrible height
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:16 PM
8

it was an e-girl, there was no IRL reputation to be lost
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:35 AM
4

What were some of the most brutal experiences?
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 07:38 PM
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None of the online blackpills come anything close to real life ones. When you know the people involved and see it with your own eyes it's much more devastating to behold.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:28 PM
3

yes most blackpillers vastly underrate dick size
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 10:44 PM
2

that's already what has happened
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 06:49 PM
1

lmafo at this larper /u/barbadosirishslave addicted to cuck porn trying so hard
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 05:05 PM
2

Vaginismus isn't about vaginal canal size, it's a condition where the muscles around the vagina tense making penetration uncomfortable for both parties. It's psychological in nature, which is what the medical consensus is. I don't doubt the condition is real, just like many men lose their erection due to anxiety even when they want to have sex (psychogenic erectile dysfunction). But the problem is anything psychological in nature is going to have vague diagnostic criteria and will have many fals…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:57 PM
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Vaginismus should be renamed CVD - Chadsexual Vagina Disease. A lot of women coincidentally just happen to develop it right after they get married.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 12:59 AM
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Also the racepill is way more brutal than the height pill. Being ethnic was like being 5'4" in the eyes of women. For a white male to compare to an indian male (curry) the curry has to be atleast 8 inches taller, provided that they have the same facial features This is utterly delusional I'm sorry but you need to get back to reality
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:31 PM
3

dickpill: This one only applies when you have a small dick and if you get to have sex with women then it means that you already passed the most difficult part, which is getting into a relationship this is terrible cope, you get more and more benefits for being large, it's not like you are "big enough" and then they're as satisfied with an average one as a girthy 7.5 incher
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:30 PM
3

Dickpill is the most brutal because you can have it all and still get mogged by a svbhuman with a bigger dick than you. You can be a 6'4 mogger Chad with an elite gonial angle and projecting compact midface. You can have EVERYTHING and have women approach you because of your looks and then get laughed out of the bedroom or do nothing for them in bed, then get either brutally rejected, never called back, or cheated on.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:28 PM
1

slayer
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:11 AM
2

Short ugly white guys can get any ethnic girl they want LOL
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 08:11 PM
-1

I completely agree. Face and height are basically everything. Maybe race was still a significant factor 10 or 20 years ago. Women aren't going to turn down Tyrone or Chang anymore, it just doesn't happen.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:35 AM
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cope, face and height >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race US: 20% outmarriage rate for Indian migrant men, while for women it's 10% Australia, 1st gen migrants: 11% of Indian men marry out 11% of Indian women marry out 8% of Bengali men marry out 3% of Bengali women marry out 19% of Pakistani men marry out 8% of Pakistani women marry out Singapore: 33% outmarriage rate for Indian men, 24% for women Canada: 7% of South Asian men are in mixed marriages, compared to 6% of women
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:32 AM
3

What you don't get is that being in the vicinity of someone doesn't make you best friends and share all their beliefs and characteristics. Some insane freak praising shooters doesn't mean you're buddies with that guy, nor does it mean that every guy who thinks looks and height are most of your relationship/sexual success is a lunatic with bloodlust who "hates women". Most of us just want to become attractive enough with looksmaxing to have the sex lives we want (if possible) stop being gaslit by…
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 10:33 PM
5

I like your username, /u/happytallperson. I'd be happy too if I were tall.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 07:03 PM
12

"I may be a virgin who women find repulsive, but I'm not an incel!"
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 05:48 PM
7

Women are the ultimate NIMBYs. They talk about how much they love gays and support them and are even willing to befriend them but are disgusted by the prospect of a man being bisexual. Women are always the enforcers of masculinity and male hierarchies. Gays are fine as long as they're a castrated accessory, like a little dog, but when the gay actually could possibly take interest in them they couldn't be more repulsed. This idea that straight men are the main drivers of homophobic behavior has a…
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 05:11 PM
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they are progressive leftists, who believe in guilt by association and a culture of shaming, i.e. even the self-identified incels who DON'T do those things are guilty by even daring to mingle or share a space with the bad apples, it's part of that whole worldview/psychology
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 03:16 PM
1

I'm a very tiny bit redpilled (some aspects of it) because I've seen how women lose attraction to even Chads if they act like a weak doormat. Of course, it's slight, and the Chad can still probably get away with it, but it's still there.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 03:11 PM
1

lol, one of the few brutally honest posts as a woman in America I’m just so tired of being bullied for my preference for tall men you're not, short men are the bullied ones, everywhere on social media we are laughed at, told we're unattractive, given less pay, promoted less, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:43 PM
2

Not unless you have a natural talent for it or a lot of time in it already, no. You will be competing with Asian, and White nerds that have been coding since they were 12 as a hobby. Then you have to know what you're doing with the internships and the interviews or research/grad school if you're going to do academia, it's a big mess really and extremely competitive and unless you're one of those precocious people I've been talking about you will be left behind. Very easy to make the 'wrong move'…
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 04:22 AM
2

To a point, then it starts hurting his appeal and only looks good to gym girls. Once you get past that "TRT + anavar and primobolan" physique you're starting to lose the majority and go into niche territory quickly.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 04:17 AM
-1

female virginity is cope if you're genuinely desirable to women
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 01:04 AM
-1

This is an awful cope. So you don't want a huge amount of women? 6' Chads still fuck those girls.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:39 PM
1

I am, believe it or not, but it's still a massive problem.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 07:30 PM
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A lot of normie tier men don't understand the things we say because they're entirely ignorant of the treatment Chad gets, since they don't interact with Chads and just take women's word at face value. They don't even have the slightest idea and think Chad has to have a good personality, make the first move, etc just like them and maybe his looks give him a boost in success rate. LOL. No. Not even close, the game is completely different for Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:19 PM
4

For all the noise I hear blaming men and talking about their addiction to porn, I don't ever see engagement about how porn affects women. Most girls have been watching extremely hung men through porn and that's what they want and have come to expect. Guys with 6 inch dicks get laughed out of the bedroom by women now, I won't say all the time but it does happen. But of course people call porn a "male fantasy" and ignore how many women watch pornography (notwithstanding the fact that they basicall…
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 04:15 PM
4

lol, spot on and then brings up 'confidence' at the end - so close yet so far
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 12:22 PM
1

what height are you?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 11:37 AM
1

Disagree, it can easily decrease your attractiveness to many women also.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:58 AM
2

and how does this in any way disprove what I said?
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 09:11 AM
1

You may have a gf but could you slay? No. Having a gf doesn't mean much, sorry to inform you, I'm not impressed and neither is anyone who actually understands how attraction works.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:04 AM
7

it is, stop coping
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:04 AM
6

Women are much more forgiving for anything that isn't men. Bi women will eat the pussies of 400lb biker butch lesbians while being repulsed by a 5'10 manlet who has a subchad face. Women will have lower standards for trans (both MtF and FtM) etc. All their requirements go out the window.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:03 AM
3

Honestly, even blackpillers sleep on the dickpill too much. You have people thinking looks are so important that height and face can somehow compensate for a small dick. Not true - you don't penetrate a woman with your face.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 11:24 PM
3

FACEandLMS just got wiped from youtube. His channel was clean, broke no rules, and so on, while Hamza sells pyramid scams/MLM to kids and remains uncensored. Andrew Tate enjoyed tons of mainstream attention and got interviewed by primetime cable hosts even while being "censored by the matrix". /r/theredpill remains on reddit. Yet redpillers claim they are being 'censored'. LOL. No, the only real censorship is towards blackpill content, which gets eliminated even though it violates no rules and i…
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 11:17 PM
0

muscle isn't nearly as important as height and face, in fact it's quite inconsequential, but other than that this is true
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 10:32 PM
1

caffeine is still bad for BP, should stop using it
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 04:49 PM
1

bad for blood pressure what does this have to do with anything
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 04:33 PM
3

That depends on your flaws. Some things are quite fixable and others aren't. For example if you have a good upper third but recessed jaws, yes, double jaw surgery will fix that and improve your face greatly. If your eye area is fucked and your eyes are too close together (narrow IPD) then no. If your nose is too projecting yes it's an easy fix, if your nose is lacking projection it's much harder and requires complex grafts. If your paranasal area is recessed you would need a lefort 2 or 3 and no…
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:27 PM
2

Even if that were true you're still a stupid insecure loser trying to humblebrag to get validation from a pill forum.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:16 PM
18

"I'm 6'4, and let me tell you, height doesn't matter! I've been with lots of women and it was because of my great personality, not my height!"
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 06:31 AM
2

because most men aren't hung enough to hit the fornix and stretch them
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:48 AM
1

I agree but my issue is I only have a +1.5 ape index and I already have long legs for my height. I don't know if I have the proportions to pull it off.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 11:32 PM
17

Not necessarily. A LOT of gay guys simp for women even though they aren't even attracted to them. It's strange, maybe it's just ingrained in men biologically.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 02:55 PM
2

They already don't nowadays unless they're looking for an oofy doofy betabux emotional tampon
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 01:36 PM
3

yes, because of the lack of facial bone causing less support, making the sagging skin with age even more prominent
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 10:43 PM
-10

I do agree that autism is a detriment, but I'm really sick of autistic guys (lots of fakecels) like you trying so fucking hard to shoehorn autism and "NT" stuff into the blackpill. Also tons of guys with mild aspergers who could learn to deal with it pretending like they are hopeless low functioning autists is getting ridiculous.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 10:02 PM
1

If you have 7 bodies you're just normie (even a low tier normie), a lot of the guys here don't "get it" because they think guys like us with pathetic bodycounts are Chads since they are virgins. Under 10 bodies is pathetic compared to the numbers Chad and Tyrone get. Why LARP with different pics though? Just don't share your photos. Don't lie, it makes anything you say inherently suspicious and less credible.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 10:00 PM
1

so many chad larpers on here
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 09:59 PM
12

a lot for a subchad, meanwhile Chad gets to 10 bodies by sophomore year of HS
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 07:52 PM
15

lol religious cope
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 07:49 PM
1

fuck frat guys though
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 03:11 AM
6

LOL as if they would ever do that nowadays
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:49 AM
5

Libtards and conservatards both don't want incels being able to access affordable prostitution because it's either evil rape against wahmens or it's a sin. They'd rather have us blow loads to porn and being "sugar daddies" if we are somehow rich, other forms of prostitution which they never do anything about. They don't want subhvman sub8 men having a sexual release even just to prevent our mental health and happiness from deteriorating. They want us to be celibate and as miserable as possible w…
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:44 AM
2

I think actual asexuality exists but probably has an extremely low incidence rate. Most "asexuals" either have a hypogonadal hormonal profile causing low libido, are in denial (like the "asexuals" who say they masturbate or still have sex, wtf?), women (or men, not as common) with extremely high standards to the point where they can only get aroused by 1 in a million gigachads/gigastacies, men coping with being undesirable incels, or people who have some kind of sexual trauma such that the idea …
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:00 AM
0

I think 5'10
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:43 PM
13

There's a plethora of evidence that sex is necessary for mental health, that sexlessness shortens your lifespan and makes you far more likely to kill yourself or go insane, that sex reduces stress and makes it easier to focus and work, that sex reduces cortisol and other hormones that animals secrete when they are in a chronically stressed and unhealthy state, that human beings NEED sex to be fulfilled, yet normies and bluepill redditors all pretend like you can live a fulfilling life without se…
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:02 PM
1

Meanwhile I see tall indian and asian guys with attractive white women and women of other races. These ethnics keep looking at white chads slaying and think it's like that for all white men (apex fallacy). And they're short and ugly and blame their race when their main problems are staring them in the mirror: height and face.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 08:13 PM
1

why do you keep spamming this shit
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 05:04 PM
3

shes 22. She’s had lots of fwb and different stuff in the past and says she wants something serious now Already ran through by 22. BRUTAL.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 07:29 AM
2

Ethnic guys cope too much with race, JBW isn't nearly as true as you think it is, height and face > dick size >>> everything else.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 07:07 AM
1

That's not true, I'm white and I've known white guys with black gfs, they don't secretly hate them or whatever. A lot of white guys think black women are attractive and are into or respect black culture like hip hop etc especially nowadays. In the past maybe that had some truth to it, like the segregationist Strom Thurmond (who had a secret daughter with a black woman), but hardly any white guy who dates or fucks black women is some kind of racist that's hiding it.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 06:46 AM
4

doesn't exist
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 05:43 AM
2

If fixing your acne and dressing better was enough to get you that sort of attention you were always handsome. People like me need hardcore surgeries.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 11:36 PM
3

Then 6' will be the new 5'10, then 6'2, then 6'4, until we achieved a Fisherian runaway and only 7' freaks of nature get laid.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 10:40 PM
1

A diet low in carbs means low insulin which means low IGF-1 which means stunted bone growth.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 09:30 PM
20

Because these young men have been told since a young age that they better never approach random women or they will suffer the consequences, because it's sexist, evil, and promotes violence against women and rape. They know well if they "cold approach" they can get: recorded and posted online, ruining their life their reputation being destroyed in their community for being a "creep" that dares to approach women, then cancelled and made unemployable, also ruining their life confronted by a white k…
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 04:20 AM
8

I disagree, this is cope. They don't just use Chad, they are genuinely infatuated with him. Look at how many women still can't even bring themselves to hate abusive Chads that used them for sex.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 04:07 AM
1

This is the definition of oofy-doofy.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 11:07 PM
1

The blackpill isn't a political worldview or value judgment of anything. It's just the idea that genetic determinism is vastly more important in life than society and institutions are willing to admit and that your genetically determined looks (height, face, etc) are the most important factor in sex and dating and give you social benefits due to the halo effect. Also, being incel is a state that you are, which is involuntarily celibate, not some kind of belief system that "hates women" or whatev…
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 07:24 PM
1

if you don't think a woman would cheat on 6'1 7" dick 7/10 Chad with 6'4 8" dick 8/10 gigachad you're delusional.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 06:24 AM
17

Stoicism is life-denying cuckold philosophy championed by a Roman emperor who had everything including wealth and power beyond measure telling you that you should be happy with nothing. It's for idiots.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 11:18 PM
11

They never truly hate Chad either. They just collectivize the blame to all men. They can never truly bring themselves to hate Chad, they love him and worship him because he makes their hole tingle.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 08:33 PM
1

tall men have overall more bone development but they often suffer from long midfaces and weirdly proportioned faces
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 03:03 PM
8

This is why we need to forget about "relationships". We want the treatment Chad gets - that means sex/hookups/one night stands first THEN a relationship if we like each other. It has to be based on initial physical attraction period or your relationship is DOOMED. Blackpillers know we could try and go out cucking shucking and jiving for months to try and court a girl who gave her body to handsome tall Chads instantly like every other sub7 clownish oofy doofy manlet normie. It's just more repulsi…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 05:49 AM
1

if I chose penis my dick would become comically large and would probably be impotent at that size, should have made it a more reasonable figure, or compared 2 different sets of measurements
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 03:46 PM
3

You don't need to look like Chris Hemsworth, have the muscles of Ronaldo, or the height of Robert Wadlow. If you treat women as an actual human being and you can make them laugh, that is far more important than anything else. Yes, that is indeed adequate to have an oofy doofy provider cuckbuxx paypig relationship. To experience genuine reciprocated sexual desire and lust? No.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 03:45 PM
5

LOL
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 03:44 PM
3

I'd rather have arthritis and decreased mobility but be worshiped as a sexual and social god. People keep saying LL impacts your ability to do sports. Ok, sporty, have fun. For me it's a no-brainer to choose pussy and being considered a natural leader by the braindead beasts known as normies.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:59 PM
1

more like copemaxxed, he looks like a freakish compensating midget
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:06 PM
2

no work ethic for your height and face
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 10:44 AM
1

https://youtu.be/J_lkT6g1xBY
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 05:49 AM
6

lol you didn't get the reference, over
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 05:41 AM
2

for me it's Grace Kelly
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 04:29 AM
2

You "date" (fuck) Chad if he's broke
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 11:50 PM
1

Because they're only promiscuous for Chad while making unattractive men jump through hoops and provide for them. They lusted for Chad's height and face and make their cuckold bf/husband their slave even though there is no physical attraction, and never treat their slave as well as they treated Chad sexually.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 10:57 PM
1

I wouldn't want to, but I would do it regardless because of the social shame I would receive if I refused. Nobody in the class would want to collaborate with me and would hold me in a low regard. However if there were no consequences, yes, I would not give it to her and allow her to fail the test.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 10:56 PM
3

Whenever women said they "kissed" that means sex. At least now you know this.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:24 PM
0

This is all true, these tall guys are fakecels
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:20 PM
2

No gym for your face and no roids for your height. He's unattractive to women and looks like a compensating midget.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:19 PM
5

If you are 5’10”, then height is not your problem. That’s well more than enough for success with women hahaha, that delusion
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:18 PM
1

same lol
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:18 PM
7

"huge egos" = huge heights, huge dicks, and huge jaws
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 08:04 PM
2

lol, cope
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 02:49 AM
8

Genuinely surprised she said under 5'8 instead of under 6'
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:55 AM
3

explain how I fix my height and face please
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:37 PM
7

a pot for holding ink, especially one that fits into a hole in a desk
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:29 PM
4

Brutal man, just brutal.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 07:25 PM
1

geomaxxing is something I plan to do after surgeries and after I get a good source of income
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 10:24 PM
1

Just looking ok and playing guitar, having 6 pack abs and a decent physique, or being a high school jock was enough to be a Chad. Now you need to be 6' and have an elite face with a perfect jaw and cheekbones as well as a large penis. As online dating increased the pool of men for women, they raised their standards astronomically.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 07:17 PM
1

height = 5'10 manlet face = 6/10 with blond hair and green eyes dick = 7 inches with 5 inches girth money = upper middle class, maybe lower upper class family, little money of my own overall QoL = 3, a lot of this is my own doing from rotting and not doing enough to get a career and socialize when I had the chance
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 07:57 AM
1

So what? How does its bioavailability and potency compare to the rest? Ethinylestradiol is 17 alpha alkylated, so it would be far more orally bioavailable than estrogens from dairy.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 02:26 AM
1

So what? It's a net negative for men and society, and it should be shut down for the greater good.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 02:24 AM
1

LOL top 10%. You wish. It's more like the top 2% now.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:39 PM
1

What is it with you shorter men that sperg out whenever a 5'10 guy talks about being short? I'm getting so sick of the gatekeeping and theatrics, my sympathy for you shorter guys is starting to run out because you constantly act as if you KNOW that being 5'10 is fine and attractive to women. It isn't. And you whiners got me banned from /r/shortguys because you can't stand someone taller than you still being honest it's not even close to adequate in the current dating market (adequate starts at 6…
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:32 PM
8

I think "denialcel" is a better term
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:18 PM
3

the only value that matters is genetic value
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:39 PM
0

you far overrate the racepill buddy boyo
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:16 AM
1

yeah try being a manlet
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:55 AM
1

"only" 6'1, man, shut the fuck up Tyrone
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:55 AM
2

The racepill is cope unless you are Indian, then you pay an ethnic tax (East Asian less so but still there, much less than years ago though) but this is still drastically overshadowed by looks and height, blacks don't have it much worse than whites. It's virtually all height and face.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 05:53 AM
2

Did any of the girls have sex with him and did any of the guys invite him out to party and be close friends? No. They just exchanged pleasantries and were willing to engage in conversation with him instead of being outright rude and derisive, and he thinks basic social expectations and getting along to get along are enough. LOL.
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 09:42 PM
5

just destroy your reputation and possibly have the cops called on you or get sucker punched and given a concussion by a random white knight theory not even Chad cold approaches since it's not even necessary anymore and not worth it, he just uses apps and women in his social groups express interest, what makes people think it's worth it for subchad men LOL
/r/AllPillDebate20/09/23 03:35 AM
1

You don't need to be Chad to slay. A neurotypical HTN/chadlite is enough. IF they are tall.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:33 PM
1

It is average but women aren't attracted to average, my boy.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 08:14 PM
1

I disagree entirely
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 08:40 PM
1

No, although I do exercise, I just enjoy the benefits of having higher testosterone levels
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 06:36 AM
1

Yep, same view here
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:20 AM
1

lol mods removed the post, of course
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 08:00 AM
1

Who cares about your stupid redpill cope movement being taken seriously?
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:46 AM
1

just fucking lol at incels coping with nationalism and race when the leaders of their movement consider them dysgenic garbage and want them to die out
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 07:44 AM
1

yeah, testosterone
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 08:23 PM
1

religious cope
/r/AllPillDebate16/09/23 08:19 PM
1

Yes absolutely, how is this even a question?
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/23 04:27 AM
1

Fuck no.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 09:06 PM
4

A lot of the time women will admit they're like that but say that not all women are like that. Like the height fetishists that reject manlets will say "there's plenty of women that are willing to date short guys unlike me!", basically trying to pass off the manlet on other women or tell a lie.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 05:00 PM
2

Never get up.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 04:58 PM
3

It's proven bullies are more successful socially and romantically.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 09:05 PM
9

Whites are the most self-deprecating, self-hating race with the lowest ingroup preference. That is a fact. Every single poll shows whites have the lowest ingroup preference of any rates and white liberals are the ONLY group which has an outgroup preference. They have been browbeaten their entire lives with anti-white propaganda. Every powerful institution (media, academia, government) in America is firmly against white self-interest and collectivism seeing it as evil while promoting exceptionali…
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 12:26 AM
1

It is short - to women.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 11:52 PM
1

More like "gimme the tall guys".
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 08:15 PM
2

If I could only go back in time I'd pump myself with so much HGH, insulin, and letrozole I'd probably endanger my health (and be better off for it).
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 03:33 AM
2

I can't fuck them because they don't want me.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 02:51 AM
2

LOL! No.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 11:47 PM
2

Cope. I would fuck all the types of women you listed (if I could, but I can't). Why cuck myself out of sex?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 11:30 PM
3

How tall are you?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 11:26 PM
2

No, once the growth plates close it's worthless for gaining height. If used on a mature skeleton for long periods it will cause overall bone growth, but not directed like in a growing child or teenager, which causes the bones to enlarge in all directions and look lumpy and disfigured as well as growth of the internal organs (acromegaly).
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 11:24 PM
0

What country?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 09:17 PM
1

more like anything that is not taller than most men
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 09:10 PM
1

at least there are still many women much shorter than you LOL. Why do people keep saying this? Women only care about how much taller you are than themselves to an extent (i.e. they want you to dwarf them, sure). They care much more about how much taller you are than other men. Often the shortest ones are the biggest height fetishists. There are tons of midget women that proudly proclaim they want 6' Chads only.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:22 PM
1

I'm not a super extroverted guy, but I like sex. Yeah, perhaps I could get laid from IRL interactions if I were a jester constantly socializing with a huge friend group. But tall guys don't need that. They don't have to put on the clown makeup and do a dance to entertain people constantly. They don't need to commit. They can just be themselves and write "6'3" on dating app profiles and get sex. I CAN'T DO THAT. I have to "prove" myself with countless asinine attempts and trials, running the gaun…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:08 PM
-1

The "muh pure virgin waifu" cope is just redpiller cope that will prevent you from getting laid even more. Take what you can get, lead them on with the false pretense of commitment if need be (i.e. you're not attractive).
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:04 PM
1

Yeah, if I was totally ignorant I'd be more able to forgive myself. But I was aware of it and wanted to do it. I tried to buy peptides from a gray market source using my parents' debit card and it got flagged as a suspicious transaction. I didn't have any money. After explaining myself my mother was originally open to it and supportive to helping me buy it from illicit sources, then became paranoid and refused to let me take it when she asked a doctor friend of hers about it and was convinced it…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 08:01 PM
1

What women and society have determined, which is 6'. Further advantages for being 6'2+ (with diminishing returns).
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:52 PM
1

Women don't care about averages. They want 6' Chads. Women do not want sub 6' men.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:51 PM
3

The increase in growth is dose-dependent. The dosages given to those children are often too low and are only meant to bring them to the "normal" range. And it would work better for people who were average height than for people who had ISS (no GH deficiency) because for us average guys we probably have better genetics than short guys for growth in other respects besides hormone levels (receptors, etc). So a natural 5'10 being 6'2 is well within the realm of reality. You are wrong and just parrot…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:48 PM
1

USA
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:41 PM
6

Tell that to every woman on a dating app. Not tall = short to women and society. Let's stop the cope please.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:40 PM
0

Completely wrong. That's not how genetics work. There is no set in stone "genetic limit" that your body won't let your height surpass. Which is why people with ISS (idiopathic short stature) who have no genetic mutations in HGH, IGF-1, etc still get taller with HGH treatment. As long as you have open growth plates and non-midget genetics (like a broken IGF-1 receptor) more growth is always possible. A naturally 5'10 guy like myself could have been 6'2 if HGH was started at an early enough age, a…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:40 PM
-3

Yes I am 5'10.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:37 PM
3

Life as a manlet is a never-ending cancer.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:32 PM
2

Tall people naturally produce more HGH and therefore IGF-1. So it would raise your cancer risk to that of a tall guy's. Big fucking deal. This is just stupid fearmongering to prevent people from doing it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:31 PM
1

Because, in short, we want one night stands like Chad gets. We don't want to have to provide for women emotionally or financially to enjoy their sexual company. If we want a girlfriend, we would like if she'd have sex with us without commitment regardless so that we could know the physical attraction was genuine. Not all men in relationships are cucks or in dead bedrooms, but they are missing the raw physical attraction aspect that women have towards Chads, making the relationship somewhat under…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 06:21 PM
4

I think it comes from my childhood growing up. I was homeschooled from 7th grade onward to focus on tennis which I believe stunted my social skills and made forming relationships in college much more difficult. Holy cope. If he was a 6'3 gigachang that looked like Godfrey Gao he wouldn't ever have had these problems.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:29 PM
6

autism
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:20 PM
0

Another tall guy in denial of his advantages that failed tutorial mode. LOL.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 12:27 AM
2

6'+, ideally 6'2+
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:34 PM
4

Yes, I see this all the time too. Height is worshiped nowadays to an extent that probably never occurred before in human history. Tall guys are automatically Chads unless they are severely deformed.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:01 PM
3

No self-improvement for your face or height outside of surgeries which your favorite gurus would never tell you to do.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 11:00 PM
2

No, it's giving your children a better life, the opposite of child abuse.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:04 PM
2

No gym for your face.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:02 PM
2

Sugar consumption has been declining recently yet Americans continue to get fatter.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 04:08 PM
7

those girls don't make Chad wear a condom
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 02:28 AM
25

Chadfishing is especially brutal because you can truly just "be yourself" and realize it was never your personality holding you back all along, unlike the lies people told you. Someone with Chad looks over 6' can be a hentai addict with asperger's and still get laid. In fact I've known tall guys just like that who got pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 02:20 AM
1

I believe it. Too many guys think that face and height are so important that they can somehow make up for a small dick. Well, you can't fuck women with your height or face.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 01:03 AM
1

Acne scars aren't really fixable. Generally at best you can get 2/3rds of an improvement, and many of the lasers will harm your skin and make it thinner.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 12:15 AM
1

As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Give up on this guy.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:38 PM
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And all you can think about is how some guys have an easier time getting dates because they're hotter than you? It's a problem that directly affects me and makes me miserable. I'm not starving, or dying from an American drone, or whatever. It's only natural and in fact rational to care more about our own problems than those of others. Getting a lot of dates is not the pinnacle of human success Reproductive success is the ultimate success there is and the only real kind in the biological and evol…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:35 PM
1

You're 16... why aren't you both taking HGH?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:34 PM
1

I have a good chin as far as the actual chin which protrudes from my mandible, but my jaws need to be advanced for optimal attractiveness. And 5'10 is not acceptable height.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:23 PM
2

Will probably take several years. I have my jaw surgery consult reasonably soon with one of the top doctors.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:21 PM
1

Not at all.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:13 PM
2

I actually do. Wide face, good eye area (PFL), just need extra midfacial projection and a good rhinoplasty. Ideally I could get modified LeFort 3 or modified orbital box osteotomy but I don't know if it would even be obtainable sadly.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:07 PM
9

Why would the dating apps want people to have knowledge of chadfishing? You are making no sense at all. If anything that would disincentivize more men from joining and subscribing to the paypig premium features.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:00 PM
1

more like above 6'
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 08:56 PM
-1

cope
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:15 PM
9

All these campaigns against all these various -phobias are enforced top-down from institutions as part of the neoliberal establishment. Such rhetoric, while rational, will never be adopted. It would get you ridiculed, and forget any campaign that tries to deprive women of something they want - in this case their beloved tall men's cocks.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 12:27 AM
4

We already know the truth. I don't need women to say "yeah we like tall guys and won't fuck you because we think you're unattractive". It's like listening to a rich guy telling me I'm poor and that he will always have a better life than me. I already know that, being constantly reminded of it is just depressing.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 11:12 PM
3

I already know it. I don't need women to take pleasure in mocking me and calling me unattractive.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 08:27 PM
1

That's becoming increasingly true, though.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 03:19 PM
1

Exactly. Average heights are more common because of the bell curve. So 5'9-6' are the most common heights. Everyone knows a 6' guy and a 5'10 guy. You can't really get away with lying because people have a frame of reference. It's easier for a 6'2 guy to claim 6'5 than it is for a 5'10 guy to claim 6'.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 03:10 PM
1

Yes, absolutely. This is what I've been saying for a long time. It brings a lot of people to anger because they don't want to accept it. I've seen many instances of women rejecting 5'10 guys. It hasn't been a "safe" height for a while now. You need to have a good face to make up for it (while uglier tall guys get pussy thrown at them), or you are fucked. And it's dead average. Crazy times.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 05:39 AM
5

They even blame the "patriarchy" for their lust for tall guys and refusal to sleep with manlets, because supposedly the patriarchy indoctrinates them that they need a big, strong man. LOL. Somehow this part of the "patriarchy" shouldn't be deconstructed and if you want to, you hate women and are an entitled inkwell with a bad personality.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 05:31 AM
1

USA
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 05:08 AM
1

It's considered a short, undateable height by many women (the majority on dating apps unless you look like a male model gigachad) and you will never be a woman's first choice. 5'10 guys will ALWAYS be considered inferior to tall men.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 05:07 AM
1

Yes, I wake up at 5'10.5-75. But when I go to bed I am 5'9.75.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 03:14 AM
1

I disagree with you that 6' is average in America among young white men (seems to be 5'10.5 or 5'11), but I realize more and more that I won't ever be fully maxxed without LL.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 02:58 AM
7

"try working on your profile bro"
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 02:55 AM
1

We have more and more incontrovertible proof of Chad harems. The funniest things are the mainstream explanations for this phenomenon, like when major publications interview 'experts' that say it's because more women than men have college degrees - LOL! Yeah, I'm sure that's it, not the fact that more and more women would rather rot than date a man under 6 feet tall or who isn't handsome. Even so, they won't touch the fact that this immediately proves the same Chads are taking the lion's share of…
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 02:52 AM
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It's annoying but I'll take their platitudes (which can be funny to laugh at) over the FDS shrews who openly drop atomic blackpills by revealing their true women's thought processes - saying we're genetically inferior beasts of low biological value that should die without offspring because we're not the "high value" 6 foot handsome rich guys with big cocks they fuck in one night stands and think they deserve.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 02:33 AM
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just fucking lol if you think a 5'7 6/10 white is equal in SMV to a 5'11 7/10 arab, 6' 7/10 black, or 6'3 7.5/10 Indian. You are OUT OF YOUR MIND.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 03:09 PM
1

You can only slay as a high tier normie if you're over 6'.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 01:00 AM
1

Whites are taller on average and usually have good chins and forward projecting thin noses which are attractive traits. The most common unattractive features that will bring a White guy down more commonly than other races are, in my experience: bad infraorbital rims/prey eyes (not necessarily more common among whites, in fact it's less common, BUT this shows more with lighter skin IF YOU HAVE THIS FLAW) thin lips narrow long faces/long midface instead of a compact midface dark circles under the …
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/23 12:57 AM
2

Frame does not mean much at all. Nobody cares. Stop coping about it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 04:15 PM
1

Yeah, I have no idea how people are under the impression that a hung Chad somehow can't know how to lick a woman's cunt. A guy with a very large dick probably has a reason to be good at foreplay since it will get her wetter for penetration and make getting it in easier. More nonsense cope that hung guys somehow don't know how to use their size and are bad at foreplay.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 04:44 AM
1

What's so funny?
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 01:35 AM
0

It's not cope. It's very important.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 04:56 PM
0

Lesbianpill is brutal, women increasingly prefer each other to subchad men. Not only do you have to compete with Chad and Chadlite, but you have to compete with women too. And women have much lower standards for each other than they do for men - they'd eat the pussy of a 300 pound butch biker lesbian but refuse to touch a 5'10 5/10 guy for being too short and ugly lol.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 02:06 AM
1

I guess the person I replied to was a teenager and the mods were upset I was talking about the benefits of shooting up HGH to teens. But I didn't tell him he needed to take it, I just said the side effects were overblown. HGH also isn't a controlled substance. Anyway, yeah, a lot of the users there hated me and wanted me gone. I think the racepill is overblown. It's mostly height and face.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 01:47 AM
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LOL. Yes they do. Stop lying.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:53 PM
3

Ask women.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:45 PM
3

I'm bisexual and the blackpill made me much gayer. I am much less attracted to women now because it's like my brain told me they were unattainable for me. They don't want me because I'm not 6 feet tall and handsome. So yeah. Functionally almost gay now. Unfortunately. Didn't want it to be this way.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 06:01 PM
0

JBW is cope
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 05:59 PM
0

white, blond, normie face
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 05:13 PM
2

5'10 isn't good enough nowadays, maybe you've been living under a rock. It's considered a short height and most women on dating apps (online is where most relationships start now) will reject you for being under 6'. Marlon Brando was very good-looking and was a superstar in an era where the average height was shorter and women cared far less about height. It's not comparable to today. A millennial or gen Z woman would prefer a 6'3 guy to Marlon Brando. Marlon Brando was also bisexual and sucked …
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 05:10 PM
3

So you were a Chad who was depressed. Ok. Well, I don't have what you have, Chad. I'm not a tall and handsome athlete. Women never approached me. My belief in my own ugliness and need for surgeries is just a sincere reflection of reality and not disordered thinking.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:45 PM
2

Yep. Infatuation or nothing. How am I expected to continue trying to be a good paypig/timepig in a relationship? That obsession and infatuation comes from looks.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:28 AM
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I got banned because I told someone the side effects of HGH were overstated other than raising blood sugar. But really, they can’t tolerate a 5’10 guy who doesn’t grovel to the mob there and say it’s a fine height. In reality women consider it short nowadays. They would rather attack the "average" height guys dissatisfied with our heights (and for good reason) like me than the tall Chads cucking all of us. I would be very sympathetic to the shorter men on that sub and they just got angry at me a…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 04:23 AM
4

It's easy for genetically gifted Chads.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 01:24 AM
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Isn't it funny how, to redpillers and bluepillers, the only important aspects to your appearance are the ones you can change without surgeries (gym, grooming, hair, etc)? What an interesting coincidence!
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 08:47 PM
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At least the mom wants her son to have sex and understands the gravity of the situation. If that were me my mother would call me a pig and say I need to find a "nice girl" who would date me even if I were disabled.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 08:46 PM
3

That's what matters most when it comes to casual hookups (almost entirely to the exclusion of everything else), even more than it does for long-term relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 06:41 PM
3

I can’t. I lack the necessary height and face.
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/23 05:32 AM
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Not really. A lot of these newer blackpillers whine about not being able to get a girlfriend, true love, teen love, virgin wife, etc. They never ever realized sex and hookups were ALWAYS the main goal and what truly separates Chad from the sub-human.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 10:32 PM
5

The fact that you think a guy like this is super attainable and isn't a Chad is a testament to your typical delusional woman's standards and apex fallacy.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 09:17 PM
8

400 weeks vs 1 Meeks (1 Meeks = a unit of time equal to the 33 milliseconds it takes someone's brain to determine if you are handsome).
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 09:13 PM
10

I am great at eating pussy and have a 7 inch cock and I barely get any compliments whenever I ate pussy for a long time, really. Some (most) women just do not like it when you eat their pussy forever, no matter how good it makes them feel. They want to be fucked roughly and passionately and a guy who spends hours licking her pussy is functionally no different from a woman, at that point they may as well enter a lesbian relationship. By the way, 8 inch dick Chads are also good at eating pussy. It…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 09:07 PM
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Exactly. If you get that and really enjoy her company and want to have a relationship with her, THEN you can commit. Because you know you are sexually compatible and she genuinely desires you. If a woman made you court her and jump through hoops to have sex with her, the physical attraction is not there, and pursuing a relationship with that woman is leading into a dead bedroom, a frigid and emotionally distant relationship, or being cheated on. If you ever had Chad friends, you'd notice they st…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 08:58 PM
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Yeah he's not a Chad. Just an 8/10 financial executive in a big city who just so happens to be 6'2. Women are so fucking delusional. Oh, he's only "nice looking" but not a Chad. What the fuck are your standards for Chad then? A literal demigod?
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 03:47 PM
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This is why I laugh when anti-blackpill people say they know average guys, ugly guys, or manlets in relationships. How many of those relationships are dead bedrooms? If you are in a relationship as a non-Chad, you are VERY LUCKY if your girlfriend or wife feels enough of an obligation to fuck you even if she doesn't want to because she doesn't like your looks. Many will end up in dead bedrooms where sex does not occur for weeks, months, or perhaps even years. I cannot stress this enough: if your…
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 03:46 PM
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Yeah just be a handsome 6'2 executive. Ok. Must have been the profile!
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 03:20 AM
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I love how the first thing said in the top comment is "tall". "Tall and hot", tall before hot. Height > face.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:51 AM
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light brown
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 12:20 AM
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The hate is probably resentment because they want to fuck them but can't because they are sexless incels, which is why they are jerking to porn. And you're ignoring the legions of simps they get which would vastly outnumber these types you are talking about. You're hyper-fixating on a minority to blame men and absolve these prostitutes of blame.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 10:40 PM
1

Yes, they have no filter when it comes to their preference for good looking tall men too. Just look at tiktok. Making little videos bearing their face to the entire world with them dancing talking about how much they want to choke on a tall Chad's cock, swallow his cum, and be his whore, and how disgusted they are by men under 6'. They don't even lie or try to be polite about it anymore, they just have zero shame and nobody would ever shame them anyways.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 09:22 PM
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They made that choice to spread their legs for easy money, knowing the consequences to their reputation and knowing that they would be a public figure. A lot of them enjoy it because they were slutty and like fucking the porn Chads with big cocks (we already know women enjoy filthy sex with Chad, you don't think they have fun getting gangbanged by 8 inch dicked roided porn actors because "muh porn isn't real bro"? give me a break). Don't feel badly for them.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 08:28 PM
1

Unless you are geomaxxing (and even then blacks do fine, look at the passport bros), it’s not really that much of an advantage, no.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 02:41 PM
2

ONLY 6'1? GTFO Tyrone lol.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 01:00 PM
2

They don’t get girls, they only get bi men obsessing over them mostly.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:49 PM
1

Being attractive is far more important than being white.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 05:50 AM
1

I didn’t say anything other than whites have the largest chins on average and more projecting straight noses and that these are attractive features. I didn’t endorse some sort of JBW cope, which I believe is largely exaggerated and delusional. Obviously not every white guy has a great chin and nose. Whites are also the tallest racial group on average which is another thing considered attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 12:18 AM
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Caucasoid and in particular white European skulls have, on average, the largest chins of the races and tend to have straight projecting noses. That is a fact of physical anthropology, and across cultures, straight projecting noses and strong chins are more attractive than bulbous flat nonprojecting noses and weak chins. The existence of ugly white people who lack these traits or attractive people of other races with or without these traits does not invalidate the averages.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 08:49 PM
3

Can you form a coherent argument?
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 08:48 PM
1

It's worth it. One of the few guaranteed ways into success so long as you get good grades.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 08:40 PM
2

5'10 doesnt even cut it anymore This is completely true, I know it because that's my height and I get zero pussy. But it makes a lot of shorter guys angry when you say the truth because they think that they could be Chads at 5'10. I'm going to get some rather invasive surgeries (jaw surgery) - I'll still be a manlet, sadly, but maybe fully looksmaxxed I can get a couple years of mediocre sex with Beckies before it's totally over. That's basically my last hope at this point. I went to college sli…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 07:44 PM
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I am 18 year old. All of my friends but one never been with a girl before. Its the new normal. Exactly. You have to be 6' and handsome to get laid now. It is OVER, especially in gen Z. Being an incel is the new normal for subchads. Gen Z guys and late millennials who aren't tall and handsome will never ever know what it's like to have a dating life that was normal for previous generations.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 07:25 PM
1

A foot taller. 5'10 isn't enough for women nowadays.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:34 PM
1

Yep, tax cattle to pay for Chad's kids.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:30 PM
4

There is some subjectivity in that some women prefer blond hair, others prefer brown or black. Some women like a skinny guy, some like a muscular one. Some women are merely height fetishists that can compromise and date a 5'10 manlet with a male model face, others are tallsexuals that NEED a 6'2 guy to get pussy tingles. Some prefer prettyboys and others masculine rugged men. And while many want Chad, many want Tyrone or even Chang. And so on and so forth. But that's about it; minor and trivial …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:26 PM
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Successful men that dominate their domain get cucked by Chads all the time. A lot of the best brain surgeons' wives are fucking 6' Chads (if they are ugly or short).
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:17 PM
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There is NOWHERE to meet people anymore. And if you do people want to meet people who have followings on social media so they can increase their own clout. It's practically impossible to penetrate preexisting social circles now, especially for an unattractive guy who isn't active on social media. If you aren't attractive or with a social media following? Then you're going to have the same friends you had forever or no friends at all. If you have a big life change where you get a new social oppor…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:15 PM
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You should feel for incels because it is the future of regular guys. Regular guys are increasingly becoming incels due to the insane levels of hypergamy. Even being 5'10, the average height, or having an average face will essentially make you a persona non grata on dating apps - which is where the majority of relationships begin today. If you are truly an average guy and are under 40 or unmarried you have probably started to feel the heat turning up in the past few years, and it will only contin…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 06:04 PM
4

Self help is almost entirely tall 6'+ guys like Andrew Tate, Hamza, and Tony Robbins telling ugly manlets they're just not trying hard enough and that all their failures with women or professionally are their own fault. Either they are delusional because they can't relate to subh00mans due to their own experiences being tall and living a life with the halo effect, or they are essentially blackpilled but cynically use their audience to line their pockets (like Tate who is very proud of his height…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 05:56 PM
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Beauty is important,yes, but being at the top of your domain LOL. No.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 05:48 PM
2

I think you mean low lat insertions.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 03:34 PM
2

Yes, look at how many countless stories there are when a girl's orbiter gets laid or gets a girlfriend then the girl he is orbiting expresses interest to sabotage his sexual relationship with the new girl. Then leads him on and doesn't have sex with him. It's sadism.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 02:17 PM
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This is true, but people will waste their time endlessly. Even doing 200mg of testosterone ("TRT" but really double the normal levels) my gains in the gym were ridiculous compared to before.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 04:03 AM
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I really dislike these sorts of "I'm genetically inferior, it's only rational for women to be disgusted with me!" posts. Sure, they are driven by instinct. But it's also your instinct to be angry at being socially excluded from participating in sexuality, a fundamental part of the human experience. Nevertheless, the sheer extent of modern hypergamy and the cruelness with which women reject subchads (not just "genetic dead ends" but even average guys, see the 80/20 rule - more like the 95/5 rule …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 12:46 AM
2

because quarterly GDP line go up
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 12:38 AM
1

Nah, it's still extremely bad, it just isn't agonizing like being below that. There's different tiers to manlet suffering, like the different circles of Hell in Dante's Inferno.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 12:32 AM
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There are many examples. It’s best if your face is attractive otherwise but has one major flaw. That’s usually the best.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 08:37 PM
1

6'5 and 5/10 is Chad IRL
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 02:19 PM
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Women were calling Chris Bumstead in the off-season a "dadbod"
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 05:46 AM
2

Unless you are totally fucked it’s better to spend that money on looksmaxing surgeries.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 01:19 AM
1

Maybe oral sex or heavy petting. Something sexual.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 12:50 AM
2

Genetic recombination is brutal. People have children that are much uglier/hotter or taller/shorter than themselves all the time. With polygenic inheritance these things become probabilistic and not deterministic. Chad and Stacy can create incels, and subhumans can create Chads and Stacies. Granted it is less likely to happen, but not tremendously so. Look at Ashton Kutcher and his brother.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 09:36 PM
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I don’t get it because I would love if a woman slept with me on the first date. It would make me want her MORE because I would feel physically desired. A woman giving herself to you easily is incredibly sexy and validating.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 08:35 PM
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Or like they want to slay but only want virgin brides waiting for them. They didn’t think the math or logistics of that out very much because the sleeping around they want to enjoy inherently means less female virginity.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 08:03 PM
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Yes because I was talking about HGH, but frankly I think the mods were chomping at the bit to ban me because I'm 5'10. It makes a lot of guys there angry when I say 5'10 isn't enough for women.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 12:53 PM
2

They do those things - with Chad. See how 2/3rds of young men are single but only 1/3rd of women. Women are part of Chad's harem. We have oft-cited mainstream statistics PROVING this. What else could explain this discrepancy of singleness? Wake the fuck up.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 02:24 AM
2

Because they can (...get pumped and dumped by Chad, that is). They keep getting pumped by Chad and don't understand why he won't commit.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 02:23 AM
2

The genes for the androgen receptor are all on the X chromosome, which you get only form your mother. As well as genes for testosterone levels. So not only balding, but how much testosterone you will have, AND how your body RESPONDS to the testosterone (more sensitive androgen receptors is like a multiplier for testosterone - which results in how masculine you look as well as penis size) are a product of your mom's genetics only.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 12:12 AM
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In reality personality is almost entirely irrelevant compared to looks and height. A 6'4 good looking guy doesn't have to be a jester and be "interesting". He's just loved for his face, height, and genes and women present their holes while manlets and average face guys have to act like clowns for the mere chance at entertaining a woman that would never put Chad through any of that.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 11:46 PM
2

Exactly. So people should stop bringing up the average height as if it means anything. If you're under 6' you need to be handsome as fuck to make up for it unless you want to emotionally or financially provide for Chad's leftovers. Guys under 6' will never be girls' first choice, EVER, unless they are Chad in every other category. It's like having to do everything else perfectly while tall guys just exist and get pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 11:38 PM
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5'8 is a death tier height nowadays unless you have the face of a Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 09:25 PM
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Average means nothing as far as women's actual preferences. They consider the average guy ugly, the average income poor, and the average height short. Under 6' IS short to women.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 09:24 PM
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To be genuinely attractive and have casual sex/hookups (without spending unreasonable effort on playing the numbers game), yes, you do. Betabuxxing impresses nobody and doesn't result in actual physical attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 09:20 PM
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Women in the "anglosphere" are not demanding 6'. The only people I hear making a fuss about that are you guys. LMFAO you have GOT to be kidding me. Have you been living under a rock? Spend 5 minutes on tiktok or any dating app and see 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' must be 6' swipe left unless you're 6' blah blah blah 6' when he's 6' 6' 6' 6' 24/7/365 for yourself. You're either genuinely fucking stupid and in denial or just a lying troll.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 08:07 PM
1

And you're taking this indefinitely (cruising/TRT) or is this your cycling dosage?
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:23 PM
1

Not really. There aren't specific surgeons that are ONLY for celebrities. For example, I think Dr. Frankel in Beverly Hills has done some of the nosejobs for celebs. There was a Beverly Hills surgeon who did Tom Cruise's jaw implants whose name I forget (now retired).
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:20 PM
0

Western white females are ethno-masochistic, hate their race, and vote to open the borders and give away their country and the spoils of their fathers and grandfathers to brown people prove they're not racist. They flagellate themselves at the altar of diversity constantly and talk about how much they loathe being white. It's absolutely ludicrous to claim they're racist because they won't fuck balding Indian janitors. They WOULD fuck you if you were tall and handsome enough, like if you were Tyr…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:16 PM
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"Normal" = short to women. Your statistics mean nothing here. Remember the old OKCupid survey that showed women believe 80% of men are BELOW AVERAGE IN ATTRACTIVENESS, which makes literally no sense? Yeah, so stop talking about averages and stats because it means precisely nothing in the context of attraction. Women and normies have decided that 6' is the cutoff, or 1.8 meters if you live in a metric country. Women don't care that 6'4 Chads are a tiny percentage of the male population - they wan…
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:12 PM
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He's actually started going to the gym recently and has been getting amazing results. Brutal blackpill on how good genes come in packages. Tall prettyboy Chads with wide frames can just start lifting weights and mog genelet gymcels that have been working out for years, with barely any effort.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:02 PM
2

No gym for your face or height. But going to the gym can be an enjoyable activity and boost your SMV slightly if you already look decent and aren't a manlet. Just starvemaxx and get lean then.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:01 PM
14

Increasingly less so due to the influence of social media. It's either 6' in Anglosphere countries and 1.80 meters in countries that use the metric system. Even in countries with short average height, like certain South American or Asian countries, women want 1.80m guys even though they are much rarer due to social media beating it into everyone's head that 1.80m is when a man starts being human.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:00 PM
5

LOL no. Delusional. Anything below 6' is considered short.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 06:55 PM
1

Women are more shallow than men are. Even Chads who have an abundance of options are sometimes willing to commit to a woman who they feel has a better personality.
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 01:29 AM
1

this is ropefuel, girls will never love me like that, makes me want to end it
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 01:18 AM
2

What dosage of steroids are you doing?
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 12:58 AM
1

How tall were the Chads?
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 09:01 PM
1

Checked his other vids. Seems like he's a liberal. But one of the ones that do the masculinity cope, kind of like Henry Rollins. "These redpill guys are ACTUALLY more feminine than me, not that there's anything wrong with femininity!"
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 07:21 PM
0

yeah then the same normies tell you "don't get surgery bro, it doesn't look natural, you'll get botched!"
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 03:20 PM
0

Nah, been around too long and interacted with too many vindictive psychos to agree to that.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 12:19 AM
9

Tons of Chads play videogames. Especially nowadays. I've even been in communities for niche obscure games you would think only losers play, and there are Chads.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 06:47 PM
4

They get a one night stand with him and that's all they need to think that's what they deserve forever.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 06:19 PM
2

Actually it's getting to a point where it matters to an extent now because women have SO MANY OPTIONS they'd rather match with someone who looks like they have a social life. I've seen some experiments. Sure Chad can get laid easily with a bedroom selfie and not struggle, but he gets even more pussy with photos that make him seem normal. When women can pick between weird Chad and normie Chad, they'll pick normie Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 06:09 PM
3

it really can't unless you geomaxx
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 02:55 PM
7

jbw is cope, it's because you're not tall
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 01:21 PM
1

This is why you're seeing more and more men check out of society. They realize they can't meet women's standards and if a woman settles for them wonder if there would even be any physical attraction. They know that working harder will never make them rich because they didn't play the right game in their teens and early 20s or weren't born to wealth and got to benefit from nepotism.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 11:51 PM
1

LOL no it doesn't. Actually take testosterone.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 10:28 PM
3

I noticed getting too into things like competitive multiplayer videogames, the gym, or even posting on the internet redirected my competitive "energy" into ultimately pointless pursuits that wasted my time instead of doing things that actually mattered, like improving my money or my looks. Most people would be better off not treating the gym as an obsession. Not only because you get diminishing returns from your obsession but because it becomes unhealthy. If you get to the point where you're obs…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 10:18 PM
2

Gymcels always say that but only cardiovascular fitness does that. Those studies were done on people that did running cycling etc not retarded gymcels that do no cardio and got fat so they could squat more. If you lift weights and do no cardio you will be no healthier than before. Since most gymcels never do cardio, them saying they lift weights for "health" is a lie.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:32 PM
1

Depends on what their flaws are.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 02:33 PM
2

I'm improving with actual self improvement. Plastic surgeries, steroids, etc. Not nofap and cold showers.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 01:12 AM
3

for me it's when tall Chads have small dicks, I can't help but laugh and feel some sense of justice
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 09:11 PM
1

LOL at you citing the anti-defamation league. You are one retarded Leo Frank cel.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 06:05 AM
10

the gini coefficient for tinder is literally worse than 3rd world dictatorships
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 02:52 AM
12

Cope, you've never seen the comments tall tiktok prettyboys get. Young Stacies thirsting galore.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 01:53 PM
4

The truth is that there's no reason for even Chad to cold approach when he can just use online dating apps or go to a club. Of course Chad will have a vastly superior success rate, but still, if I were a Chad I wouldn't even bother - I'd just go on tinder and have pussy ordered to my apartment like pizzas. Which is what Chads do and why they do it. It's just more convenient, less awkward, and you're both there for the same reason.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 01:49 PM
1

that's more than enough to keep most men going
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 01:39 PM
34

Either they call you an incel and tell you to work on your personality (99% of the time) or they admit you're right, call you genetically inferior, say they can't help being unattracted to you, and then say you need to stop being entitled and get used to being ugly/short and alone or having to betabux (1% of the time). You will not win by arguing with them, it's either infuriating hearing their lies or demoralizing and depressing hearing their honest appraisals of you.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 02:56 AM
4

It's because liberals are obsessed with the white supremacy bogeyman and are desperate to tie these groups they hate together, even when such a link is tenuous at best.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 12:22 AM
1

Yes. I talked to Invisible back in the old days. He had girlfriends in the past and he's 6'3 with a big dick.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 12:59 AM
1

LOL. No.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 12:37 AM
1

Yes, liberalism and leftism are just secular forms of Christianity.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 09:17 PM
5

the latter by far
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 09:13 PM
4

Pretty much.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 10:01 PM
3

How much do you have to pay?
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 06:14 PM
14

Yes the heightpill destroyed me. I think it's even more important than face.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 01:34 AM
2

No gym for your face. No height day. Gym without steroids = MASSIVE waste of time.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 12:03 AM
1

JBW is ridiculously overrated by ethnics. Height and then face are king. I'd rather be a 6'4 Chang than my 5'10 White self any day.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 06:59 PM
1

They're racist for preferring their own kind? Anyway, if you were a tall, good looking Chad, it wouldn't matter what race you were. You could be White, Black, Asian, anything. Austrian women would not turn down a 6'4 Azerbaijani guy with a Chad face.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 12:38 AM
5

No it's really not. I have a wide frame. Big ribcage and 17.5" biacromial breadth with a 21" bideltoid. And yet my wrists are only 6.5 inches in circumference and my hands are small. My small hands look a bit strange if you were to stare at them, but it doesn't bother me much. I would rather be tall than have large wrists/hands or even wide clavicles. I would sacrifice my wide frame at 5'10 to be 6'3 and have a Klinefelter's looking frame.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 12:25 AM
7

Your height is a far greater concern.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 12:22 AM
15

It's almost entirely irrelevant compared to important things like face and height. The wrist obsession is just something tall guys use to detract from height and claim to be inkwell. "I'm 6'2 but my wrists are only 6.5 inches, it's over!".
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 10:36 PM
1

Will they prevent their algorithm from allowing people to send multiple videos demeaning short men (no)?
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 01:59 AM
1

I agree with you and I frankly don't see much difference between millennial and gen Z heights. The problem is that late millennial and gen Z women are much more picky about height with many considering 6' the absolute minimum to find a man attractive. People of low intelligence conflate this with the average being 6'. Just because a gen Z girl says "6'+ guys only" does not mean that the average is 6', that's so fucking stupid lmao. That simply means hypergamy and height obsession has gone out of…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 03:51 PM
1

I'm not saying it's a problem, I'm saying a bit larger would be more ideal. Maybe 7.5 inches of length with 5.75 inches of girth. My girth is only a bit over 5 inches, and I feel it's inadequate.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 10:36 PM
1

No. I have a 7" and wish it was larger.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 10:22 PM
1

7" isn't massive.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 09:17 PM
0

How is it big? It's like the 5'11 of dick sizes.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 08:04 PM
2

Ok, do you have a single fact to back that up (no)?
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 07:00 PM
0

7 inches isn’t big
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 06:59 PM
3

6 foot LOL. STFU Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 06:02 PM
1

I’ll get cosmetic surgeries. I can become decently attractive, I think, since my eye area is good and I am willing to go to extreme measures. And I never said I was ugly. It’s funny you consider 5’10 short though, further proof of what I’m saying: that 5’10 is a bad height and not enough for women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 06:00 PM
1

How is it a cope?
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 03:01 AM
0

Yes one of my mom's best friends growing up was a woman married to a 6'1 Chad with a very striking bone structure (cheekbones and chin) who kept his looks as he aged. She was always super affectionate to him and head over heels for him. They would go on vacations together frequently and seemed very much in love. She was also jewish from a rich family, sort of the high-maintenance "JAP" stereotype. But she seemed almost deferential to her Chad husband.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 02:08 AM
2

Bringing up short/ugly men in relationships is not the own the gaslighters think it is. There are varying degrees to attraction. Which is why in tinder experiments the hotter the guys, the more they get away with more and more misconduct. And why more attractive men get less flaking from girls and a better conversion rate to sex.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:37 AM
3

I understand that - it's simply reality. I don't like it, because of my own instincts and drive to have sex.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:34 AM
4

Because it's also my instinct to be upset at being sexually rejected. Stop this faux-rationality nonsense.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:29 AM
2

Not directly. But reproduction is why the instinct of attraction evolved. On a primal level, women refusing to sleep with you while giving her body to other men is a rejection of your genetic quality and and worth as a biological specimen. That your genes do not deserve to be propagated versus those of the more attractive male.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:22 AM
3

I'm glad more and more people are waking up to this. Hookups demonstrate your actual sexual success and prowess. People whined for too long about being unable to get a girlfriend. Although it is more difficult now, due to hypergamy, getting a girlfriend is still nothing special. Does she actually like having sex with you? Are you an emotional tampon or piggy bank? Are you being cheated on? Being GENUINELY PHYSICALLY DESIRED by women is the end-game.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:20 AM
5

In a sense, you are. She didn't consider your appearance (your genes) adequate for reproduction.
/r/AllPillDebate01/08/23 12:17 AM
1

How old is your sister? No way she's gen Z or late millennial.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 11:52 PM
3

Are you gen Z though? Gen Z women consider 5'10 guys short.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 11:11 PM
12

I'm not a troll, idiot. Being 5'7 puts an extreme damper on your dating life especially if you're gen Z since they are the most obsessed with height. It's below most women's bare minimum.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 09:55 PM
7

It doesn't matter what he considers himself. He had many options. Sub-Chads don't just get to be picky and choose between many women. Probably tall and handsome. Of course women are attracted to their husbands, if they're Chads.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 09:15 PM
5

Women like sex with tall handsome big dick guys. Not men of lesser genetic material.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 09:12 PM
10

Gen Z is the most heightist of all. Most wouldn't even remotely consider you at 5'7 unfortunately, regardless of how facially attractive you may be.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 08:43 PM
8

He had many ‘options’ but I’m his person who he could never find the same connection with Yes, exactly. A Chad who had many options.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 08:42 PM
-1

Double jaw surgery. No, I don't have a birth defect, I would just look better with more advanced jaws.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 08:22 PM
6

"just make your peace with being poor" - rich guy Easy for you to say now isn't it? I refuse to "make peace" with this. I'm getting jaw surgery and blasting steroids, then I'm getting a revision nosejob. Giving up is not an option for me.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 07:53 PM
2

First of all, most women have had casual sex at least at one point. Second, don't tell me what I want.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 07:50 PM
3

Well that's him then. I don't really want one and a lot don't. I want to be considered physically attractive and a sexual being.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 05:34 PM
6

Don't think you know what "it's over" means. Almost every blackpiller is aware they could betabuxx, escortmaxx, geomaxx, etc if they had the resources.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 05:24 PM
3

Nobody ever claimed that besides maybe the teenagers who mope about how they can't get a girlfriend. Strawman argument.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 05:09 PM
20

So you agree with the blackpill then? Good to know!
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 04:40 PM
10

Redpillers constantly talk about AF/BB but then try to refute blackpill by saying "but I know this short and ugly guy with a girlfriend/wife!". It's hilarious how they contradict themselves so blithely.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 04:32 PM
15

Exactly. If a woman has had casual sex (the vast majority have) but makes you court her it means she is not physically attracted to you like she was to Chad. She sees you as a resource tit to suck on or a shoulder to cry on. The genuine attraction is just not there. If a woman had sex with me on the first date I wouldn't mind making her my girlfriend if we got along well enough, I don't have this supposed madonna/whore complex. Whereas if a woman made me wait and jump through hoops while giving …
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 04:27 PM
4

"I see short/ugly guys in relationships all the time!" the relationship:
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 12:37 AM
6

You are not an incel at 6'2 unless you are hideous or never leave your house.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 06:10 PM
7

This is the fate of more and more men with the passage of time. Even mid tier normies have it hard.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/23 02:11 PM
1

Passport bros are mostly stupid because the majority want to bring a wife over from the third world back to the first world, or they want to get married to these women in these countries and live there. Why pursue marriage with these women? They're probably not physically attracted to you, and if they are it's probably because your phenotype/race is novel in their society and once they are exposed to other men of your racial background and economic status they will lose attraction to you. It's b…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 08:45 PM
1

You have not once offered any substantive argument for why ugly and short men would have more sex under Marxism. You just keep saying that Marxism would make everything better for men and women and talking about how we need proletarian feminism instead of bourgeoisie feminism. These are platitudes of little worth. We aren't debating the merits of capitalism or communism here, only insofar as they affect sexual dynamics. HOW would communism get me more pussy as a sub7 manlet? Why don't you stop r…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 08:43 PM
5

Not only could you get accused of harassment by her, you could get the shit beat out of you by her boyfriend or a bystander. What if she's waiting for her boyfriend and he comes back and hears "hey babe, this creepy guy won't leave me alone and I said I had a boyfriend, I'm scared!"? You could lose your teeth and need to get your nose reconstructed. If a girl said she has a boyfriend, I wouldn't dare push it. Another example of how PUA and redpill advice can be downright dangerous. It assumes a …
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 08:17 PM
37

The Chadfish experiments were by far the best proof of the blackpill. They can't allow it to proliferate because it's by far the most effective way to convince someone that looks are the vast majority of attraction and "personality" is cope. Anywhere where free speech regarding sexual dynamics is allowed, the blackpill spreads incredibly quickly. If you're old enough to reminder and were there at the time, places like the bodybuilding misc forum or 4chan didn't think looks mattered and thought t…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 08:13 PM
2

They can't afford to. If you approach women as a non-Chad man, you will be socially ostracized. If you continue to approach, you will develop a reputation in your community as a "creepy" and "rapey" guy. You could even be recorded and have the video posted about you on social media and lose your job, or get sucker punched by some white knight or Chad. Plus, women are far pickier with looks now. If you aren't a 6' attractive guy, the risk/reward ratio of approaching women is utterly abysmal becau…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 07:50 PM
6

You're clearly not interested in our sexual problems and just want to proselytize a political ideology. You have made no case for how unattractive men would be better off sexually under Marxism. You made no coherent argument, all you did was shoehorn Marxist talking points into things, like when you said: Dating apps were essentially created for bourgeois men to have access to easy sex from the prole women who have abandoned their male counterparts. In reality, even assuming that were true, it's…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 02:03 AM
13

Marxism would make things even worse because you couldn't even betabux. Everything would just devolve to 100% lookism. Look how bad things with regard to lookism, hypergamy, Pareto principle, etc got now that women have their own income. And now recently with onlyfans, social media, etc. They started to prefer physicality over everything else because their material and social needs were more taken care of . There is no Marxist solution for the sexual problems we face - Marxists attack free marke…
/r/AllPillDebate29/07/23 01:53 AM
1

Basic standards, just like having a handsome face and being 6'?
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 04:13 PM
2

They're "born again virgins" after giving their bodies and youths to Chad until she realized Chads wouldn't commit. Now she wants to find a man of God to raise her bastard.
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 04:00 PM
5

A 6'3 Chad highschooler giving people here advice? GTFO. You don't need LeFort III and leg lengthening surgery just to become human. You thinking you're qualified to advise people because you put in some trivial effort into your appearance and slayed - because of your natural looks and height and not your efforts - is frankly laughable.
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 03:45 PM
1

Of fucking course you are. Above average looking and 6' = Chad. You ARE a Chad. The taller you are, the less facial attractiveness you need to have to get girls' attention (by a LOT). A 5'8 guy needs to look like a model and a 6'4 guy barely even needs to have a face.
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 03:13 PM
1

Are you tall?
/r/AllPillDebate28/07/23 01:06 PM
1

I'm fortunate to seemingly not have the balding genes. Not losing hair on test and masteron.
/r/AllPillDebate27/07/23 01:34 AM
2

you need both
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 06:43 PM
10

Dickpill is always legit. It's one of the most important things. Perhaps the most brutal pill out there besides the heightpill.
/r/AllPillDebate26/07/23 05:13 AM
6

there are none left, the only remaining one is filled with stupid 6'4 teenagers saying they can't get laid (lol) and talking about nonsense like mewing
/r/BlackPillScience18/07/23 07:14 PM
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