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The whole got-cha argument is a reaction to how women and society used to collectively deny that women didn’t care about looks, and that they chose their men based off personality. So we have to trick women into admitting it, because if you were born decades ago, you would’ve believed women don’t care that much about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:13 PM
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My older brother is your typical Chad, he had one crazy cute petite tiny girl that was obsessed with him, he straight up explicitly tried to make it as clear as possible over and over again, this is strictly a casual relationship and no amount of casual sex will lead into a relationship, and she kept saying that she loved him and she’ll change his mind. She never changed his mind. When you live with a Chad, you’ll see a side of women you had no idea existed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:27 PM
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There were studies to show, people on the right are able to predict what kind of policies that people on the left would vote for, but people on the left score very low on predicting what kind of policies that people on the right want. People on the right understand people on the left, more so than the other way around People on the right think people on the left are stupid People on the left think people on the right are evil People on the right can tolerate the left, but people on the left cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:42 PM
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Feminism taught women to hate men And the men that hate women are just virgin incels that can’t get laid So it doesn’t really matter that men hate women, the men that hate women are low value anyways, society doesn’t lose out on low value men walking away
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:46 PM
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Reminds me of another post So I took it for granted but my dad had to work hard to reach his place in life, and I didn’t realize it but I subconsciously respected my dad for being a hard worker, my friend was the same, he also liked talking about his dad’s upbringing or how hard he had to work And then I saw a post of a guy saying he was disappointed in his father and didn’t really respect him because all his father talks about is how easy his life was and how everything was handed to him And th…
/r/MGTOW20/07/21 03:39 AM
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Seeing how women with all types of afflictions (diabetes, anorexia, autism, depression, ect.) all do better than their male counterparts when it comes to dating and marriage should give some insight Men approach women, men are more open than women when it comes to dating down, an anxious and shy woman who doesn’t leave her comfort zone will get approached and have much more chances than her male counterpart Men need to learn how to approach (masculine energy) and women need learn how to be more …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:03 PM
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I wish we could just tell women to lie or joke about their n-count when they try to complain or call out how unfair or stupid it is for society to judge them on that aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:44 AM
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Oh well if we’re treating personal anecdotes as evidence, then don’t worry, I got you covered, because I have In my old work place, people spoke about their sex lives, and if you didn’t contribute, coworkers would straight up ask you if you were a virgin And trust me it’ll be social suicide if you’re an adult that has to tell other adults to not talk about sex And other times, people just don’t ask, if people suspect that you are, people treat you like an other, we literally have a movie, 40 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:28 AM
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Reminds me of the saying, if women had shorter life spans, then men would never hear the end of it. They’ll only complain about unfairness if they have it worse, so you should expect hearing more women complain about how unfair life is again once you reach your 30s and 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:29 PM
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Then women should also shut up about how society has standards for desiring women with low n count
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:57 PM
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You got it backwards, we don’t think that people think about us for not having sex, this post is saying men are caught in a rock and a hard place by constantly placed in a position where they are socially shamed for not being sexual or failing to prove some type of sexual history while also criticized for even having male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:11 PM
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gasp breaking news, men are not statues who feel shame and have their own insecurities! How dare they have egos! Fuck dignity, they should just grovel and beg for everything at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:55 PM
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What does “most adults” don’t care mean? Does that mean people in their 20s and early 30s are not adults then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:36 PM
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There’s two types of men. Men women want to have a relationship with And men that women do not want to have a relationship with The men that women desire are the ones who have the leverage and ability to gatekeep relationships since they are more scarce and valuable than pretty women Men that women do not desire and have a hard time getting laid are not even talked about since they have no leverage for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:19 PM
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It depends on the context, girls can be the opposite of boys or the opposite of guys. Check out that guy over there versus check out that girl over there or hey guys versus hey girls. Most times people say girl, people aren’t honestly thinking of demeaning anyone, it’s just saying guy or girl
/r/MGTOW13/07/21 12:12 PM
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Both men and women need to stop validating other men based on their sexual history, and in turn, men in general will stop seeking validation from proving they have sex. Men need to stop signaling to other men that sex is some kind of worth while goal, and women need to stop signaling that they care about a man’s absence of a sexual history And then men will stop caring to prove their sexual history
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:07 AM
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So guys are horrible for pumping and dumping when it suits women’s arguments, and men are pathetic for enabling only fans when it suits women’s arguments So men are somehow pumping and dumping causing women to be apprehensive about sex (considered men’s fault) while at the same time men are also blamed for women’s crazy standards (considered men’s fault) Trust me, theres no overlap of simps and pump and dumpers, they are two separate groups that are always used to paint men as horrible as possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:48 AM
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This is an issue where both parties are guilty. Women think they can just pick and choose what parts of a friend they want to keep An entire person is complicated and it’s unfair to pick and choose to only want a part of your friend’s being Women should be more understanding that it’s sucks to be force yourself to hang out with someone who rejected you. We aren’t just blind horny monkeys that leave because we didn’t get sex, we leave because it sucks being friends with someone who rejected you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:49 PM
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Uhhhh every time I see this argument that women aren’t visual creatures……it’s not like you’re imagining a short, ugly, or weak guy in your scenario right? So it’s just a roundabout way for women to say physical looks don’t matter, I mean it does, but you guys just think it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:31 PM
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It’s being studied right now. Last generation, sex after marriage was very socially enforced, so young guys were naturally competing for jobs because in their minds, careers = sex. This generation, having a career is no longer associated with sex, since a ton of unemployed teenage boys can have sex. It’s theorized that the really good feelings of a sense of achievement that we get from video games is similar to the same feeling people long time ago had when they opened up their business and ran …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:36 AM
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Yes…. Read my first comment. Action requires energy, and energy comes from motivation. Do you not realize how hard it is to create motivation in large groups of apathetic people? Do you know how much money corporations spend on marketing to you so you can be “motivated” to use your “energy” to take “action” to buy their products. You know what’s the amazing thing about pussy? Society does not need to do giant PSAs on trying to get men to have sex, society does not need to spill money into invest…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 05:08 AM
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Oh god, so I totally get it, you’re super optimistic and idealistic, and you think everyone can be the idealized version of themselves And that’s great Except you do not build societies based on how you want them to be You build societies around a proven track record of how we know men and women tend to act (also known as men and women’s nature) Do you think jealousy is a normal human emotion? According to you, all mature adults should be able to control their emotions right? What happens to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:43 AM
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No shit. But you’re acting like all men and women are immune from biology because we’ve all somehow reached the Age of Enlightenment Or you’re acting like most people don’t behave based on biological feelings No, I feel the opposite, everyone thinks they’ve surpassed their biology, and underestimates and honestly has no idea how much of their actions and thoughts are based off biology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:24 AM
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Action requires energy. Things do not move without energy. Energy requires motivation. Men are naturally motivated to chase women. Action in society starts off with men having motivation to chase women If men are not motivated by sex, society will not have the ability to leverage men into working for society (to in turn participate so they can get sex) It’s men who rely on “feelings” and not logic for sex If men were the ones that stopped relying on feelings and instead focused on logic, then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:14 AM
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That’s why they say being a stud is a compliment and a slut is an insult. Anyone can be a slut but only top men can be studs You have to be attractive to be a stud, but ugly girls can be sluts Virgin and slut are insults because they are indicative of our values, it implies we’re low value for our sex/gender Men will not be deeply ashamed if other people make fun of him for having too much sex Women will not be deeply ashamed if other people make fun of her for not being a slut
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:36 AM
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That’s why they say being a stud is a compliment and a slut is an insult. Anyone can be a slut but only top men can be studs You have to be attractive to be a stud, but ugly girls can be sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:36 AM
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Saying men and women both care about physical attractiveness is technically true But it dismisses and ignores how society holds women’s beauty standards to a drastically higher bar compared to men’s Despite both men and women caring about finances, it paints a false image of society to say men and women equally care about their partner’s finances, when we have more than enough studies in society to show that women indeed care more about men’s finances when it comes to dating over men caring abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:40 PM
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Men are more often willing to date women who make less money than them Women also initiate divorce more when they out earn their husbands I know you’ve been brainwashed into thinking men=bad and woman=good But women in general, do care more about what their partner makes much more than men caring about how much their woman makes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:27 PM
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And despite the glass ceiling being effectively shattered, women now earn nearly as much men do, yet many modern women who still prefer to date men who make more money than themselves, which can be easily explained by how women just inherently have a gold digging nature, so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:57 PM
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And it might not be a flaw. Feeling negativity or jealousy doesn’t mean you were wronged in some way Just break up if you can’t handle the feelings of jealousy, same advice for men who cannot handle a girlfriend who has too many guy friends Following girls on Instagram isn’t some kind of moral failing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:22 AM
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Because you have the ability to recognize that the world doesn’t revolve around your feelings and feeling jealous doesn’t automatically make somebody correct For example, if a guy gets jealous that his girlfriend wants to spend time with her guy friends, is the man morally correct because he feels jealous? Or can he recognize that his feelings are an over-reaction and actively limiting what their partner can do? If someone can’t handle their jealousy, then it’s fine to look out for your own ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:11 AM
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Who do you think will have an easier time getting laid or getting interest from girls, a confident ugly guy or a desperate hot guy? Who do you think will have the type of life style that will make someone desperate? Someone who grew up ugly or hot? Who do you think will have the type of life style that will make someone confident? Someone who grew up ugly or hot? When guys have to choose between two attractive girls, he’ll choose the one with the better personality, but men acknowledge that he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:43 PM
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Ok you believe men don’t understand women because we simply tuned out all the red pilled messages because we find it boring I believe men used to not understand women because society made an effort to craft a certain image of women to men (or keep the truth from us, same difference) Since it’s in society’s best interest for men to remain slaves to their biology and to continue being motivated to participate in society Society understands there would be too much demoralization if it spread to all…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:50 AM
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You’re crafting an image that men can’t handle uncomfortable truths and that’s why men don’t understand women, reality is, society brainwashed us into thinking women couldn’t be that way, women participated in that brainwashing, that television doesn’t reflect reality, and that women are more virtuous than they really are, and reality is, men actually do want to know the truths and that’s why red pilled groups exist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:33 AM
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Do you know what it’s like to grow up in a blue pilled world? Men are navigating a minefield. Young boys experienced being called sexist even when we assume women cared about shallow things Young boys were brainwashed and funneled into believing fairy tale shit That’s why we call it discovering the red pill, there are guys who want to discover the truth, and there’s men who refuse to believe that is how women are You keep saying men shoved our heads into the ground. It’s the other way around, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:24 AM
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Nah you don’t need to feel sorry for me, and you’re reading wayyy too much into me I’m sorry, I grew up in a generation where if you brought this up to women before, they would’ve denied it You literally cannot imagine women could’ve gasp possibly could have different values than you? So we just gotta agree to disagree I can see I can’t convince you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:24 AM
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Oh do you think you represent ALL women? If you didn’t think a certain way, you assume that means NO other woman has? Get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:09 AM
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Oh please, you’re just trying to paint a narrative that women never hid how they selected their men now that it’s mainstream and everyone knows When in actuality, women themselves benefitted in hiding women’s nature and participated in it themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:06 AM
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That’s why we call it the “Red Pill.” It’s a concept from the matrix where Keanu’s character was told he’s in a fake world, and if he wants to stay in the fake world, take the blue pill, or take the red pill to wake up from the matrix Guys who believe in waifus, soulmates, and manic pixie girls are called blue pilled because they aren’t living in the real world, even red pilled guys hate blue pilled guys because blue pilled guys put women on a pedestal, so when it comes to the battle of the sexe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:57 PM
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This thread makes it sound like women were never trying to hide the way they selected their men, and that it’s all men’s fault for ignoring what women said they found attractive. The truth is, women have made a concerted effort to control the narrative that women are a certain way and to craft a certain image of women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:51 PM
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In my head, if young women tend to gather more relationship experience than young men, then by the time both groups reach 40, women on average will have more dating experience than men, which stands to reason men will keep more incentive to keep looking for companionship whereas women are going to be either more satisfied or more burnt out with dating by the time they get older since they date around more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:29 AM
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I mean I say bar, but the bar is generally reflective of what it’s like anywhere I go, concert, rave, house parties, social gathering, ect. Being out at social events starts to feel like sitting outside of a party and looking in the window and seeing everyone have fun and no one notices you’re missing, and it’s raining outside, it sucks seeing that the world really does feel like it was meant for everyone else and not you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:01 AM
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I read a different article on declining birth rates, and delaying when you have your first child lowers overall birth rates because a woman who has her first child at 25 is way more likely to have a second child than a woman who decides to have her first child at 35 The earlier you have your first child, the more likely you are to have more than one child
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:49 AM
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I’m 5’6, but I used to be motivated to dress nicely and always go out, but it wasn’t on purpose but I’m guessing if most guy are like me, it honestly started off with one day randomly deciding to stay in on a Friday night, and accidentally discovering how much more relaxing it is to stay in and play video games over always going out and at best watching girls talk to your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:11 PM
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Yes yes I know, men always have the obligation to try first, yes I hit the gym, I could jog 8 minute miles, bench 225 four times, shoulder press a plate easily, I can squat 2 plates easily, yes I did sports and hobbies, but I also hate mentioning I’m short because then it becomes the “oh woe is me I’m so short and self defeatist.” But I tried going through life pretending I wasn’t short and it’s hard to notice all the women who reject you going after men who are taller than you but have less hob…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:19 PM
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My friend kept trying to take me out to bars, once he saw how women treated me before I even opened my mouth, my friend finally stopped bugging me to stop playing video games or going out to the bar with him, he even sincerely apologized to me for taking me out and wasting my time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 09:13 PM
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I don’t want you to do anything about it It’s just so annoying when women get irritated that men cannot understand how they feel But women are so confident that they know how men feel
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:02 AM
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I mean, no matter how high you think your libido is, it cannot compare to a man’s libido. No matter how sexually frustrated you’re feeling, it cannot compare to man’s sexual frustration And no matter how little sex you’re having, men are having even less sex Of course it’s a male oriented problem, and I guess I was expecting too much for a woman to be empathetic about a problem that disproportionately affects men more and women less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:57 AM
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Do…you think women just have more self control? Or did you fail 9th grade biology? Because it’s common sense that men on average have drastically higher sex drives When women tell men they love sex, we laugh on the inside, because it’s like a skinny person telling a fat person that they love food, I’m thinking “oh I bet you think that, but trust me, you don’t love food as much as I do.” Women cannot comprehend the frustrations of sexlessness because first your sex drives are very low, and gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:48 AM
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No I mean, women claim that men are over-estimating how much sex women are having No matter how little sex on average women have, men are having even less than that, that’s what I mean when I say women cannot comprehend just how little sex the average man gets or how hard it is for the average man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:44 AM
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The average woman greatly under estimates how much work and difficulty average men go through to get casually laid, in other words, women greatly take for granted how easy it is for them to get laid (seriously, when I talk to my girl friends, they all have a completely skewed idea of what dating or casual sex is like for men)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:35 AM
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Because obviously every dude will have a different tolerance for that There’s girls who don’t think 5’6 is short or unattractive, but that doesn’t magically mean 5’6 is considered an attractive height for what in women in general look for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:40 AM
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So everything women find attractive or unattractive about men is all about a reflection of his personality But everything men do or don’t find attractive is because men are too stupid to think critically Got cha I’m just gonna say it one more time, if men cannot speak on behalf of what women should or shouldn’t find attractive, women need to stop dictating what men do or don’t find attractive Especially since, feelings are ultimately just that, feelings aren’t based on logic, our feelings are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:28 AM
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You know what we’re getting off topic, basically if you have a son, and he has a crush, and his crush goes around and fucks every dude in the classroom, and records it and sends it to him, saying “I actually like you!” You think your son will find his crush still attractive knowing she just fucked every other dude in the classroom? No because there’s something about knowing her extensive sexual history, that naturally makes us feel turned off You cannot negotiate attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:05 AM
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You can google it, do you think it’s a coincidence that divorce rates rise when wives out earn their husbands What about surveys where women say they prefer men who make more money than they do? Is it a coincidence? Or is there something about society that primes women to socially be gold diggers? Do you genuinely think women’s attraction to men’s financial status is not biologically related?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:03 AM
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How come some women feel attracted to certain men after they find out he’s rich? It’s not natural for women to be attracted to financial security since she couldn’t tell by looking at him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:59 AM
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Again, you don’t typically approach people To want to date someone means you’re attracted to them (for men) since it takes a lot of energy and motivation to approach someone, we have to be attracted to them How often do you try and ask men you aren’t attracted to out on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:55 AM
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So it’s not natural to not want to date people who have a history of cheating? Because you can’t tell who has a history of cheating by looking at them Same for women who are turned off by adult male virgins, women can’t tell by looking but get turned off when they find out What about single moms? You can’t tell who is a single mom, is it unatural for a man to not want to date a single mom? You’re literally not a dude. Women can list off what they find attractive in a man, but if I look at that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:49 AM
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When men get angry that women are attracted to height or money or status, women shrug their shoulders and say it’s not their fault that women are simply attracted to certain things But for some reason it’s unreasonable when men have things we’re attracted to or not, and all of a sudden women cannot empathize with that concept The argument about sex count, men shouldn’t have to explain why we find certain women attractive or not, attraction is based on natural feelings, and it’s normal for men to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:32 PM
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If one person fails the test, then it’s his fault, if everyone in the class fails the test, then the reason is something else We can literally recognize patterns of how large groups of people act, that means it’s not based on the individual, but rather we discovered something about how people in general act I can predict if I go up to 10 random people and just randomly slapped them, I can guess either they will become confrontational or fearful, but I guarantee you they aren’t going to start lau…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:22 PM
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Nice people aren’t only bitter because they don’t get sex, it spreads to all aspects of your life Here’s a pdf file of the book No More Mr. Nice Guy https://fb2bookfree.com/science/529-no-more-mr-nice-guy.html It goes over the psychology of people who try to be nice to other people, and expecting others to be nice to him in return, and when that inevitably doesn’t happen in life, nice people become bitter because they were nice to others without that niceness getting returned, and then they beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:04 PM
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It’s not about replacing women or getting revenge or getting equal, it’s about the fact that we recognize that men’s sexuality is something that shouldn’t be ignored for the sake of society but at the same time it’s not sustainable for 50% of the population to rely on the other 50% of the population to take care of their needs So sex robots and ai could potentially fulfill a need for 50% of the population that doesn’t rely on the other 50% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:40 PM
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So if you truly think it’s the latter, and that increasing raw sex numbers will increase society’s well being Then do you realistically think government programs to get willing sex workers to have sex with a bunch of virgins will improve society? Or? We actually recognize correlations, and that sexlessness is indeed followed by certain symptoms For example, sex and birth rate goes way down during times of war, are you telling me that we can stop war by fucking and popping out babies? No, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:35 PM
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We don’t need average men to curb some hypothetical uprising. Unless you mean, the average man will become so demoralized, that we no longer have enough people to fill in ranks of police forces and other institutions, then yeah sure the demoralization of average men can lead to uprisings, but again, that requires such a high level of demoralization, and these institutions will always be full enough and have enough people to maintain status quo that an uprising due to sexlessness, honestly, proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:26 PM
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Seems like women dont want equality with men, but rather revenge against men feminism showing its true colors
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:13 AM
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Women also try and use sex for bargaining power to get things from men Just look at the pushback when men start talking about wanting to replace women with AI and sex robots
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:32 AM
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Had a girl who had a crush on me And when I used to do things for girls I had crushes on, I would do everything for them, so I thought I would make a good boyfriend But once I started dating a girl that had a crush on me but I didn’t have a crush on back, I felt much less excited and much less energy to just do random things for her versus my pretty friends that didn’t even like me back And I figured this is how girls feel as well, it’s easy to be motivated to do things for hot guys that don’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:03 PM
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When men want to date a certain type of women them we call it a fetish, however if women want to date a certain type of men, then you call it a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:06 AM
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Literally the entire basis of the argument of women having any insecurities about their bodies are blamed on men saying they are attracted to certain traits in women, like being skinny. Men wanting skinny women is constantly brought up as to why women have body issues about being skinny Yet women always talk height preferences, however any man that mentions he’s insecure about his height will be ridiculed as a mentally weak and insecure man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:47 AM
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If you want to know who is in power, make fun of both groups in public and see which one gets you cheers and which one gets you silenced
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:46 AM
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If a man gets teased for being short, society will remind him to grow thicker skin If a woman gets teased for being chubby, society will reassure her that she’s a victim of a toxic society Having standards is considered a toxic male trait but an empowering female trait
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:01 PM
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I remember reading that college educated women think there aren’t enough dateable-marriageable men, and that dating down either means dating someone who has less education than you or makes less money than you. Women prefer someone who has the same level of education AND makes more. For every 4 college educated women, there’s only 3 college educated men. So college educated women are going to have to play musical chairs for a college educated man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:27 AM
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That's not the point, women who are aren't abused but unhappy in their marriages divorce their husbands even though they have kids, that's because women are less shamed by society for divorcing. Imagine a man in the same situation, he would be shamed for divorcing his wife and leaving his kids if the only reason was because he was depressed and miserable, but its more acceptable for women to divorce her husband and break up the family if she claims she's been miserable the whole time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:36 AM
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In the beginning, young guys don't leave relationships because having constant sex is a very surreal feeling when its very hard for to obtain it. Afterwards though, when you stay with someone long enough, its no longer about sex, its about societal shaming that comes from leaving a woman. Since men are the ones that approach women, and women are the ones that agree to give up their bodies or youth for their man, its seen as more cruel for a man to leave a woman, than the other way around. Imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:30 AM
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Or maybe...hear me out Attractive people just intrinsically have more leverage when it comes to dating? It’s easy to choose what you want to eat when you have options and it’s easy to say you deserve it because why not, and a homeless guy will be happy to eat a half eaten burger out of a trash can because he doesn’t get much, but if he complains, he gets told well no one is entitled to free food Attractive people can say “I know my own standards, and I know what I want and I’m not going to settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:11 PM
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There’s the term Shotgun Marriage, that refers to a guy who marries a girl because he got her pregnant, which originated from when fathers used to hold a shotgun on the guy who got his daughter pregnant, and force him to propose to his pregnant daughter. I’m not trying to make a point, it just reminded me of that concept
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:39 AM
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There’s a quote from Community that goes “the only ones who think love isn’t a game are the ones winning.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:41 PM
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I go through phases where I pick up weight, and I refuse to go out on dates until I get fit again I know that’s due to my insecurities, but it really rubs me the wrong way when I see posts of chubby or fat people complaining about loneliness It’s like bitch I hate loneliness too, that’s why I hit the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:03 AM
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I mean, even if we lived in a perfect world, and all the attractive men partnered with attractive women, and all the undesirable men partnered up with undesirable women You will STILL have a surplus of men nobody wants and a surplus of women people find attractive. If you try to pair everyone off, there will inevitably mean that attractive women are going to have to pair up with unattractive men So according to your issue, if all the unattractive men chased all the unattractive women, there stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 07:11 AM
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What? Everyone isn’t pairing off 1:1 Imagine 100 men and 100 women on an island. The amount of men who will be rejected will be higher than the number of women who will receive no sexual advances Because you’ll have a small group of men that multiple girls find attractive, and a small group of men that none of the women want for themselves. And the amount of women who receive plenty of offers will outnumber the men who have plenty of willing women, partly due to what minimum standard threshold o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:55 AM
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Surplus is wrong word, they have on average more options than men And men on average take whoever shows them any attention because men don’t have plenty of options
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:05 AM
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Imagine men could get any job they want, and women just has to work whatever jobs they can get. Imagine women complaining about how depressing work is, imagine a man then replies with “that’s because you’re supposed to choose a job you love silly!.” Both genders have natural advantages, and average women’s surplus of options naturally makes it easier for them to be friends with the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:48 AM
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Nope that’s actually a good example If a girl was fat and loses weight, and then afterwards now the guy wants to start a relationship with her. It clearly shows both people’s intentions and where their values are at
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:54 PM
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Well it’s ok to use unscientific methods in this argument because people I’m arguing against don’t believe in science
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 06:16 PM
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Oh I literally meant on the sidewalk and in public All the couples I see, the guy is tall I rarely see short young guys acting romantic with women out in public
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:57 AM
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Oh seriously? Well damn, in my city, every person I see with a woman has been tall I rarely see guys my height with a girlfriend Ok well that was a fail haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:32 AM
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Uhh yeh you never said that, but sure I’ll let you reposition your argument Well here you go my good man read up~ https://scholarship.rice.edu/bitstream/handle/1911/75471/Yancey_Does%20Height%20Matter.pdf?sequence=1 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244014542783 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/amp/ https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jan/18/why-women-should-date-short-men https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeands…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:20 AM
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Oh jeez, it’s so annoying when people play dumb Just in case you aren’t playing dumb, I’m referring to how you didn’t choose your partner immediately based on his looks, that’s a good trait to have, I wish more girls could be like you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:10 AM
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My argument is still stronger than your argument. People back in the 70s bitched about the wage gap and glass ceiling, isn’t that just women bitching about not wanting to work as hard as men? Or (hear me out), after excluding for variables, data pointed out that women were in fact treated unfairly in the work place If you cannot prove something, then your argument makes sense, you cannot prove that people with bad eye sight are overwhelming discriminated against people with good eyesight, same f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:06 AM
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Aw you’re just a good person, I wish more girls could be like you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:00 AM
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I bet if you started counting all the younger men you see in relationships right now that are above and under 5’7 and all the single men above and under 5’7, the amount of men in relationships over the height of 5’7 is going to over whelming outnumber the amount of men under 5’7 in relationships, and the single men shorter than 5’7 will overwhelmingly outnumber the amount of single men taller than 5’7
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:15 AM
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We literally have tons of anecdotes from women saying height is important to them As humans we all recognize we are privy to subconscious bias, and that we all crave companionship We have data to show shorter people commit more suicide, higher rates of being bullied, higher rates of rejection, lower income rates, literally short people are treated flat out worse. We have a ton of historical literature to show how much people cared about height throughout history, people will not magically become…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:13 AM
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I’m sure all the men with attractive wives and girlfriends are all convinced they love their partner’s personality, and it’s simply a coincidence that their partners happened to be pretty and skinny enough It’s no surprise that men won’t change out their girlfriends but must first still have a minimal attraction to them, same for girls, you already found your boyfriend attractive, and now you just tell yourself you’re only attracted to his personality now
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:06 AM
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I mean nobody has to question that tall people get into relationships, because they see it everywhere, just walk outside your house But the only way anyone would ever know short people were in relationships is by starting it off with “I know this one short guy...” Do people not realize that if everyone only seems to know one short guy in a relationship, that means short people in relationships are in fact not common, because no one says I know this one tall guy in a relationship Which is what sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:56 AM
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High value and low value doesn’t matter, in your comment you just said what I just said, “a lot of men are asking women for relationships” That means women have to wait for men to ask them for a relationship How often do you have women in relationships asking for their man’s hand in marriage to marry them, versus women waiting for their guy to ask them to marry them? If you believe men dont typically control relationships and women typically control sex, then why isn’t there more prevalence of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:13 AM
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Women think taking care of their OWN child and cleaning their OWN house is unpaid labor. No one deserves to get fucking paid to take care of your own shit Holy fuck it blows my mind how much women are like fucking children Only children ask for money when they do the chores
/r/MGTOW27/04/21 06:01 AM
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I just looked it up. Average First age of marriage in 1980 was 20 for women and 22 for men Then in 1990 that age was around 25 for women, and 27 for men. In 2017, it was 27 for women But in 2020, the average age of marriage was 31 for women and 33 for men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:54 AM
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You don’t get it, yes high value men are the ones women want, but women’s ability to secure a relationship (any kind of relationship, which includes friendship) is contingent on men asking her or wanting to be with her. Women can only be friends with simps if simps want to be her friend, but she cannot force simps to be her friend Let’s say a woman was hot throughout her 20s, but finds herself lonely in her 30s, and she has sex with a low value man, it’s STILL the low value man’s decision to dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:40 AM
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Men are called the gatekeepers of relationships and women called the gatekeepers of sex because women decide which men get pussy while men decide which women will receive their time, resources, and energy. Men will give their time and emotional energy to a woman, but if she doesn’t reciprocate with sex, then you call it the friendzone (women holding sex from men who have given aspects of a relationship up) Women will give their bodies to have casual sex with a man, but if he doesn’t reciprocate …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:29 AM
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Men are called the gatekeepers of relationships and women called the gatekeepers of sex because women decide which men get pussy while men decide which women will receive their time, resources, and energy. Men will give their time and emotional energy to a woman, but if she doesn’t reciprocate with sex, then you call it the friendzone (women holding sex from men who have given aspects of a relationship up) Women will give their bodies to have casual sex with a man, but if he doesn’t reciprocate …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:26 AM
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As a guy who is unable to participate in casual flings, pretty much the reason I have enough motivation to approach girls for a relationship, is so I can have sex (and companionship), anyone who denies that sex is not partly the reason for entering a relationship is most likely lying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:10 AM
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That’s fair, But my point was more the difference in what it takes to be considered fit for both genders. I used to lift, and I’ve had friends that were girls that claimed to be the gym types and when I went to the gym with them...it’s just...different I’ve had women say they don’t want to lift dumbbells because they don’t want to look muscular, and I’m just thinking....do people think you can just accidentally become muscular? Do people not realize what it takes to build muscle? It takes a ton …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:32 AM
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My friends and I were all the nerdy types, and we all still lifted because we all wanted to increase our chances of getting girlfriends. I think you underestimate just how many non athletic guys still lift at the gym to get muscles I just wound up dating whoever I got along with through friend groups, and my girlfriends weren’t the athletic types, and as far as looks go, I’m not saying I’m attracted to skinny girls, as long as they weren’t fat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 08:17 AM
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I mean, do people who want egalitarian countries even consider trying to push men into female dominated fields? Because so far, everything for gender equality so far has been about pushing women into male dominated fields. Feminists want all the male dominated fields to be 50% women, but they also want all the female dominated fields to stay dominated by women. Feminists find it insulting to be a stay at home wife, but also don’t want 50% of stay at home partners to be men
/r/MGTOW24/04/21 05:53 AM
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If men want to date a certain race or a certain body type, then you call it a fetish If women want to date a certain race or a certain body type, then you call it a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:42 AM
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I mean if you go to any gym or look up gym membership statistics, men are the ones overwhelmingly in the gym. I’d argue the prevalence of athletic men are far greater than athletic women. Being fit as a woman for dating men just means don’t be fat, but being fit as a man for dating women means actively having muscles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:35 AM
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So? Men’s nature throughout history is used to condemn men today, women’s nature doesn’t magically change in a single generation This simply exists in women’s nature
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:32 AM
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you were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:27 AM
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Women: we are peaceful and never have wars, wars are a man’s invention Also women: pfft are you dodging the draft? What a pussy! Men need to fight in wars! Women in history have displayed shaming tactics against men who didn’t want to join the army or fight in a war, that’s the luxury women had
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:11 AM
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That argument is like being pulled over by the police for speeding and saying well the other guy was speeding even faster That argument doesn’t absolve you of a ticket, even though we acknowledge the prevalence of incel murderers, women will still feel cheated if they get pumped and dumped, this post is about women not being entitled to a relationship just because they had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:20 PM
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Men complain about being friend zoned, where men try to establish emotional connection hoping it can lead to sex Women complain about being pumped and dumped, where women agree to have casual sex with men hoping it can lead to something more, when it doesn’t, women complain about being pumped and dumped. Men are told to accept they cannot negotiate the other persons attraction to them, but women feel cheated when they cannot negotiate a man’s attraction to them once they had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:03 PM
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The sexually liberal guys who can easily go around and get laid aren’t the same as the conservative guys complaining about not being able to find a marriageable women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:38 PM
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So by that logic, since there’s a prevalence of absent fathers who bail on their family, then why shouldn’t fathers who stay and be a good father not be praised for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:51 PM
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The quote I learned was, motherhood is natural, fatherhood is taught. Girls become women when given enough time, because their bodies will go through puberty signaling to the community that they are now women. Boys on the other hand do not automatically become men, they typically have to pass a trial or a test to become accepted as a man. A boy cannot call himself a man, everyone else must agree he is a man.
/r/MGTOW20/04/21 05:05 AM
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Men rely on violence, women rely on deception/manipulation Men are scary because they can hurt you Women are scary because they can turn everyone against you Men can hurt your body, but women can assassinate your character And before you can argue one is worse than the other, we are social creatures that rely on social credit that affects our quality of life, and destroying ones social reputation is tantamount to psychological torture Women may be physically weaker, but men cannot easily trick o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:38 PM
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I mean, if a man is too depressed to work, wives can only extend sympathy for only so long, eventually the man needs to start taking active measures to fix himself for the sake of his wife’s needs Depressed men are told to start taking your recovery into your own hands, go seek out a therapist, and fix your problems so you can perform to the level that you are expected when you are in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:33 AM
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How would you feel about your girlfriend having secret one on one emotional conversations with other guys? Typically a girl just having an emotional conversation with another guy can make one jealous, but that’s not cheating, but if you add secrecy, now it feels deceptive and as a precursor to cheating If you tell her to stop having emotional conversations with other guys, but she keeps doing it, then you feel like you failed as an emotional pillar for your partner, and risk losing her Women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:44 AM
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My older brother is almost 35, and I know he’s an exception or an outlier, but women in their young 20s flock and stalk my brother, while he’s having trouble trying to find a woman his own age that wants to date him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:23 AM
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There’s a saying, take a penny away from a million dollars, and its’s not a million dollars anymore Most people don’t think twice about the value of a penny, the poor, meek, and weak have a unique view on the lowest denominators of value. Rocks feel useless next to diamonds, but in the right time and place, a rock can be infinitely more valuable than a diamond There’s another saying, do not judge a man by how he treats those who can do something for him, but how he treats those who can do nothin…
/r/MGTOW05/04/21 08:59 PM
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Marvel movies: Thor, Ironman, dr.strange: stories of how great power and arrogance needs to be tempered by humility Spider-Man: great power comes with great responsibility Captain America: absolute power corrupts absolutely, the weak knows the true value of power Black panther: finding out the true weight of the king’s crown and how heavy it is to make decisions as king Hulk: power is a curse, control over yourself is where strength lay And then we have captain marvel telling you that you’re pow…
/r/MGTOW05/04/21 04:18 PM
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I mean when you close your eyes and imagine a well put together man as your partner, you also automatically imagined him as being taller and physically attractive as well Try imagine a short ugly guy who is well put together, and it’ll help you realize how important those traits are compared to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:58 AM
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Buddhism teaches there are three constants you can expect out of life, suffering, desire, and change. Do not hold onto happiness, because it will eventually disappear, do not wallow in sadness because it will eventually disappear.
/r/MGTOW31/03/21 08:00 PM
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I was friends with a girl I liked, once I realized I developed romantic feelings for her but wasn’t reciprocated, I realized it was not good for my own mental health to continue being around her, because I could already predict and see myself falling into depression if she got into a relationship and tried to talk to me about it I’m sure there are many men in my position where we realize it’s very mentally unhealthy for us to continue being around someone you feel romantic intentions for, but ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:45 PM
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I used to be an extremely beta male in college, I just clung to and orbited this girl I liked, and we hung out a lot Confessed to her that I liked her, and she rejected me And once another girl liked me, the girl I liked who rejected me was fucking sabotaging my relationship with the new girl That’s when I realized, girls want their beta orbiters to be reliant on them, they don’t want them to leave I also completely understand why girls think guys get jealous if we see them with someone else, be…
/r/MGTOW15/03/21 11:07 PM
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I mean, if a woman can have sex with a ton of attractive men, but the only men who would’ve been willing to commit to her were uglier men. Then which league did the woman actually belong in? If a woman’s league is based on the most attractive man she can have sex with, then every woman who gets matched with an attractive man will now believe she has higher value than she actually does So tinder artificially lessened average men’s confidence because it made them all believe they aren’t good enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:23 PM
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I just read the post and comment thread, and the impression I got from the post was that they want to blame young men’s sexlessness on young men, that they are choosing to play video games instead of dating. I believe Andrew yang mentioned something similar, young men crave a sense of achievement, and previous generations used to feel accomplished from starting up a business or a family, but the following generations keep getting less and less opportunities to get those feelings of achievement, …
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 11:19 PM
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The same way that women hate feeling used in a relationship, men also don’t want to feel used, if guys feel that you are treating them as a means to acquire resources and security, then a guy will double down on treating the relationship simply as a means to get sex. Men associate relationships with passion, and sex is typically and logically a result or symptom of that passion One way we come to that conclusion is that, sex is typically associated with a high level of vulnerability and intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:10 PM
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It’s the girl version of being friendzoned, she gave the opposite gender what they wanted, and now she feels entitled to something more
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/21 11:41 PM
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From an episode of community: Jeff: marriage is a lie, how can two people promise they’ll love each other forever? Shirley’s husband: marriage isn’t a promise you make once, it’s a promise you make every day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:48 PM
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From what I read online, celebrities have even more pressure to look younger, so they are more likely to be unrealistic with their procedures, and they try to rush it, and get too much in too little of a time frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 11:59 PM
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Or maybe the demographic of Reddit just attracts people who are attracted to smaller breasts. I like petite women and my friend loves big ol titties and a fat ass I personally think big breasts are just kind of a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 11:26 PM
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I got plastic surgery on my eyes, nose, and chin, when I tell people I got plastic surgery, people have trouble believing it. People don’t realize that good plastic surgery looks like the person didn’t get plastic surgery at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 11:00 PM
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Guys of yesterday got the girl because they offered something incredibly valuable that women didn’t have back then, a way to provide for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:41 PM
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I mean we can argue that men generally still want a chaste woman, but women want to express their sexuality like men So by women sexually expressing themselves, men no longer have their pick of chaste women. And women generally still want strong and ambitious men, but men want to just be openly vulnerable and just explore their hobbies and interests, like women So men just to be vulnerable and relax all the time, women no longer have their pick of strong ambitious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:32 PM
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It was explained to me as backwards, when girls reject guys, it has to be vocal, and more obvious, a girl simply ignoring a guy doesn’t really register to the guy as being rejected. But girls have explained to me, that as girls, being flat out ignored by a guy or not even being noticed by him, is the girl’s equivalent of being rejected by a guy, because guys are the initiators and girls are approached, so if a guy doesn’t even want to approach a girl, that’s the same as rejecting her. But if a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:44 AM
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Sex is like oxygen, having too much doesn’t matter, but not having enough feels suffocating. Men who are insecure or care about wanting endless casual sex, are NOT the type to want to be happily fulfilled husbands and fathers And vice versa, men who are already happily fulfilled husbands and fathers, have much less motivation to even care about endless casual sex So to answer your question, no guy who already has a good life, will throw it away for endless casual sex, and guys who already get en…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:28 AM
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Sex is like oxygen, having too much doesn’t matter, but not having enough feels suffocating. Men who are insecure or care about wanting endless casual sex, are NOT the type to be happily fulfilled And vice versa, men who are already happily fulfilled, have much less motivation to even care about endless casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:28 AM
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Would you have given a random dude a ride home on a rainy day? If the answer is yes, then you are a nice person. If the answer is no, then that means you tried to help her only because she’s a woman and that makes you a simp
/r/MGTOW23/02/21 12:22 AM
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A weak man who who doesn't want to fight is harmless. A strong man who doesn't wanna fight is peaceful. Women want a peaceful man, not a harmless one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 02:44 AM
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Yeah, but it’s a general rule. Women keep complaining how unfair it is that men can fuck around without consequences which is actually false, because even women are turned off by men who have a history of too many sexual partners. But that still doesn’t discount the fact that men who sleep around are still treated differently than women who sleep around Just like how sexually inexperienced men are ridiculed differently than sexually inexperienced women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:41 AM
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You will continue to suffer if you have an emotional reaction to everything that is said to you. True power is sitting back and observing everything with logic. If words control you, that means everyone else can control you. Breath and allow things to pass. – Bruce Lee
/r/MGTOW18/02/21 03:37 AM
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I mean, even if a guy isn’t being shitty to women, simply lacking a sexual history opens him up to ridicule That’s the part of a man’s life that you don’t understand, you can easily go up to a nerdy random high school kid right now and call him out in front of everyone that he’s still a virgin and he’ll be humiliated Do the same to a girl, and she isn’t going to face the same level of humiliation because a girl’s virginity carries different meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:06 AM
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I mean if women don’t want double standards, then women also need to learn to not judge a man negatively for his lack of a sexual history. It’s unfair that women can point to a man’s sexual history to let that determine her attraction to him But it’s sexist if men do that? You talk as if men have nothing but privileges, but you ignore that we also get shamed by society for NOT having sex, while at the same time much harder for us to even get it So not only is getting laid harder for us, people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:31 AM
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I watched a documentary on the history of kung fu movies entering Hollywood, and explained how fascinating it was to watch people doing crazy-ass movement, but that it was also unusual to follow a story of some guy just going through a training montage, improving himself, and learning to be disciplined. And I never realized how weird of a concept that was to have a story like that back then. And they interviewed this old black director, and he explained the reason kung fu movies caught on within…
/r/MGTOW18/02/21 01:57 AM
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The funny thing is that long time ago, the black pill was a little more common sense, people just assumed the stereotype of women being attracted to bigger and stronger men was the truth, then it became sexist to assume women were attracted to big tough strong guys But since back then everyone assumed women loved tougher stronger men, you’re supposed to make the main character weak and nerdy to get the girl, as a power fantasy and escapism, because it is NOT good story telling to make the big to…
/r/MGTOW17/02/21 10:29 PM
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I’m not arguing, I just wanted to at least point it out How do you think women would feel if a man dated a fat chick, and near the top comment was “pfft I thought men were shallow and wanted skinny women. Apparently that’s not true.” And I’m doing the equivalent of pointing out that majority of men still want skinny women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:34 PM
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Because the comment I replied to implicates the notion that women marrying up is an unfounded stereotype When it is clearly founded that women do indeed tend to marry financially up, and that a rich woman marrying down does not dispel the fact that women largely still marry financially up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 03:52 AM
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Call me a pessimist, but whenever I see stories of women marrying financially down, it’s the generic, she came from a rich family, and the other man was exciting, stereotype. I think the whole women marry up thing, is the fact that poor and middle class women outnumber rich women, and most middle class or poor women are much more conscious of financial status, therefore most women are conscious of financial status
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 02:53 AM
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What’s the implication of your last sentence? So...sexless men deserve it right? They deserve it because they are bad people right? To make sure there’s no room for error in that logic, that means it comes down to assuming women only have sex with good men and will avoid men that don’t deserve it If “deserve” comes down to genetic predisposition. Then how do you feel about employers hiring men over women under the pretense that he thinks men will make better workers than women (and statistically…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 03:04 AM
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Since men’s problems are just being reduced to being blue balled I hope you also agree that women should shut up about their own sexual frustrations as well, since sex isn’t as important as real problems If women don’t wanna be slut shamed, they should just refrain from having sex since sex isn’t that important to have, and women apparently make social shaming seem like it’s horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 02:19 AM
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You can have more than one problem, if you think having a job is more important than sex, then women shouldn’t be fighting for abortions or rights for single moms because they should just abstain from sex if they didn’t wanna get pregnant or be a single mom in the first place Because their financial future is MUCH more important than trying to have sex How would you feel if abortions were ONLY available to rape victims, sounds good right? If women don’t wanna deal with pregnancy, they should jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 02:13 AM
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I just said that 30% is humongous! If you don’t think so, then you probably think millions of people losing their jobs from corona is fine because majority of people kept their jobs?? I feel sorry for disinfranchised men of society, people like you have no sympathy for them because you think they deserve it (Because apparently you think women have perfect moral compasses, therefore, single men are only single because a virtuous woman couldn’t confirm he wasn’t sexist) And why not help us with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 02:01 AM
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That’s Just-world fallacy, that’s a cognitive bias that karma exists, and people’s actions are inherently tied to morally fair consequences “It’s ok if men are sexless, because the only reason a man was sexless was because he deserved it anyways.” That’s a way to not feel bad about something. Ok cool, so your guy friends are so much better than everyone else for not thinking about sex, so rich and cultured people must think poor people are greedy for always thinking about how to get more money h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:42 AM
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Wow, uhhh yes? Sex is very important for a society S. Korea and Japan and some European countries have their government invest into dating classes or subsidizing parental leave or giving allowances for having babies A country that has reduced sex will have the average age of their population rise (ratio of old people to young people) which means a growing senior population will have to be taken care of a shrinking youth population It’s gonna sound crazy, but sex and motivation has a very close r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:17 AM
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In class, we learn that the reason we study the collapse of other civilizations, is because we still never had a civilization that hasn’t collapsed. “Americans think a 150 year old building is ancient, every other country thinks ancient means thousands of years old.” When it comes to a life cycle of a country, there’s no reason to think America is safe, since our country basically founded a few centuries ago There’s so many headlines of people losing their jobs during the corona lock down, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 01:06 AM
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That’s fair, and sorry for insinuating that you’re gross But a feeling of nausea is what is typically associated when people talk to me about their casual encounters So it’s not like I just don’t like that casual encounters happen, but it evokes a physiological reaction to find out someone does It’s like you can assume every guy watches porn, but the moment he talks about how proud he is to watch porn, you can’t help but judge him negatively, no matter how much you tell yourself to be porn posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:08 PM
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Like I feel like I’m not even allowed to say I think hooking up is gross because I’m instantly placed on Team Man, and since there’s enough men out there who fuck anything, all of a sudden I feel I’ll always be perpetually treated like a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:55 PM
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Do people seriously think every guy will put his dick inside anything? I know I’m not the representative of the common man I’m sexually conservative and not that attractive, I’ve had cute girls offered to blow me or asked to hook up and I turn them down because I think girls who casually hook up are gross
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:50 PM
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First girl I talked to in college, later I found out she spoke about me to her friends, and all her friends were making fun of me. Somehow, I wound up joining her group of friends that would make fun of each other’s crushes, at the time it didn’t feel like bullying or maliciousness, it was just out of boredom. Like we would all be eating lunch, a friend in the group would bring up she has a crush on a guy, and she would talk about him, and we would just tease everything about him. It’s like watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 09:42 PM
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It’s similar to how women before were constantly told that having feelings of sexuality is evil and they should suppress those feelings, and women used to report feeling guilty for thinking about sex or about their sexuality. Well now this time we’re going through this song and dance but with growing number of young guys being raised to believe that boys who have sexual thoughts are contributing towards the evil in society
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 05:18 AM
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“Realize that sleeping on a futon when you're 30 is not the worst thing. You know what's worse, sleeping in a king bed next to a wife you're not really in love with but for some reason you married, and you got a couple kids, and you got a job you hate. You'll be laying there fantasizing about sleeping on a futon.” - Bill Burr
/r/MGTOW04/02/21 03:03 AM
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So if your son admits he has a crush on a girl, and your son admits he is ugly and scared that if the girl finds out he likes her, that she will be uncomfortable, what kind of advice would you give your son? This is what I think you would say, “Good job son for recognizing that your sexual feelings for that girl is harmful to other people, you should try and suppress your sexual feelings because a girl feeling a teensy tiny bit unsafe due to you being ugly and sexual is a grave sin.” Remember, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:13 PM
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You’re disgusting Would you ever tell your own son that has never done anything wrong that he is already a potential rapist? If feelings are not important, then I’m sure you don’t mind people accusing your dad of being a rapist Because again, according to you, women’s actual safety is more important than men’s feelings, therefore it doesn’t matter if we accuse innocent men of rape We have a dilemma in society where society is ganging up on ugly boys to tell them their feelings of sexuality is in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:47 PM
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Exactly, it’s about seeking revenge, not equality. Because men of last century exhibited much more sexual violence, men of this next century have to prove that they aren’t like that. But until then, men this generation are guilty until proven innocent. If your son ever has a crush on my daughter, I’m gonna report your son as a potential rapist, and your son better not feel bad about it, because my daughter’s actual safety is more important than some random kid’s feelings However if that kid ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:32 PM
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I read an article that said society treats men’s sexuality like society’s third wheel, it exists but it makes everyone uncomfortable and no one knows what to do with it. It’s getting common place for men to report feeling guilty for developing a crush or sexual feelings for a female coworker As well as reporting feeling scared because if anyone finds out they have sexual feelings for a woman in the office, it’ll make her uncomfortable, and get him reported Men now feel guilty if they have sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:49 PM
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Women are treated as innocent until proven guilty Men are treated as guilty until proven innocent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:28 PM
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This is part of it. First world countries are described as having more service sector jobs than labor sector jobs Third world countries tend to have more labor sector jobs than service sector jobs Women are preferred over men when it comes to service sector jobs Men are preferred over women when it comes to labor sector jobs When factories closed down in America, it was immediately followed by rising levels of women divorcing their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:52 AM
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That’s like saying If women truly wanted to be strong and independent, they wouldn’t be trying to date. Truly independent women will not try and rope a man into her individualistic lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:47 AM
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lol that’s the plot to I Now Pronounce you Chuck and Larry, me and my friend were talking about just getting married on paper so we can both pay less in taxes
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 12:14 AM
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I mean guys that wish they had more opportunities to meet women and have to ask that question are self aware that their hobbies are male dominated, so when they are told they should go out to meet women, and they ask which hobbies have more opportunities to meet women, all of sudden since its less genuine, now its bad? It’s honestly a fair question to ask if all of your hobbies are dominated by men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:47 PM
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I seen a post of a guy asking what kind of hobbies or volunteers places can he join to increase his chances of meeting women Top comment was calling him a creep for going to a hobby or volunteering to meet women, and that he should just do his own hobbies and meet women genuinely that way Then he said his normal hobbies are male oriented and don’t give him the opportunities to meet women, so he was asking specifically what hobbies get him in front of women, and people were saying like Dance Less…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:33 PM
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Traditional and conservative people treat sex as sacred, which means it should be reserved for intimacy or marriage, which is why conservative people think a very sexual past is not a good characteristic for long term partnerhood. Sexual liberation treats the idea that sex is just sex, and it’s another channel and action that people can do to derive pleasure from, and having a lot of sexual history is not much different than having little sexual history, because sex shouldn’t be a defining part …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:02 AM
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No I think he’s saying, having casual sex much more easily is a privilege. The same way that men used to be more easily hireable just for being a man, therefore your life in that aspect is a privilege reserved for men that women didn’t have. Even though both genders can get hired and find a well paying job, it’s much harder for women, and being easily hired was a male privilege. Being able to participate in fun casual sex is just easier for women, therefore that’s a privilege reserved for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 10:52 PM
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Sorry just thought of a side note, if sex isn’t a need, then why do feminist institutions argue so fervently for abortions, government funded contraceptions, and birth control. Is it because women reclaiming their sexual freedom is super important because “sex” in general is important? How do you feel about the argument, if she didn’t wanna get pregnant, she shouldn’t have had sex? Since sex isn’t a need and all How do you feel about a man telling his daughter that she needs to wait for marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:50 PM
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Some things I can think of on top of my head is the same way that we guilt trip and shame men into accepting women of more various sizes and history, there can be a societal push to stop glorifying height or money or to shame women who don’t accept certain types of men, the same way society shamed male shallowness and constantly vouches for single moms to get more chances in dating It doesn’t have to be that, but that’s already going in the direction to help with male sexlessness at a societal l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:28 PM
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So you wouldn’t mind your future son learning how to pick up women through PUA? What kind of advice would you give your son if no amount of improving his looks or teaching him game worked? The way you phrased your second half of your comment gives me the impression that society actually doesn’t care about male sexlessness It’s really easy to tell others to accept living with less when you yourself live with more, the way that it’s easy for millionaires in government to give everyone $600 stimulu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:14 PM
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When someone say men are like this or like that, my first instinct isn’t to say well I’m not like that, I understand the conversation of referring to men in general And I didn’t mean to sound like I’m trying to argue for government mandated sex partners. I just want whoever cares about these arguments to extend sympathy towards men more Men’s issues don’t want to be talked about, any statistic that shows women are advantaged is a sign of progress, and any statistic that shows men are advantaged …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:55 AM
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Families and communities, not the government or law, used to mainly influence women’s sexual freedom. Women argued that sex is a fundamental human right, and by not letting them express their femininity, then it’s tantamount to a human rights violation When large groups of men are reporting sexlessness due to the inherent inequality due to the sexual market place, society then agrees that sex is all of a sudden not a human rights issue nor a societal issue, but an individual issue. Except that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:53 AM
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There still exists a wage gap, except that wage gap cannot explain how men pay almost twice as much income tax than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:18 PM
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The argument is that birth control should be provided by the government and I don’t think it should be, and the benefits to both parties don’t outweigh the loss of agency for the man Your argument is like arguing men should be paid more because women will benefit from it by being able to date more richer guys, except that comes at the expense of women’s own financial freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:10 PM
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I like my to add, women’s social programs are already overwhelmingly more plentiful than men’s social programs, and men also pay for the majority of income taxes by a large margin, social programs only exist for everybody because men continue to fund them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:05 PM
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So a man is at the mercy of the woman who decides if she wants to take the birth control or not So the man forfeits his own agency That’s a similar argument to saying if we just paid men more, then women will benefit from having a dating pool of richer men, yeah...at the expense of women’s own financial freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:01 PM
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Men cannot force women to take birth control, nor do they have a say on a woman’s body, if she gets pregnant, she has unilateral leverage and say in regarding if the baby is born or not, she has the agency to get an abortion all on her own, that’s why things like alimony USED to make sense, because women didn’t have a lot of agency, but it’s not like that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:56 PM
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Men cannot force women to take birth control, nor do they have a say on a woman’s body, if she gets pregnant, she has unilateral leverage and say in regarding if the baby is born or not, she has the agency to get an abortion all on her own, that’s why things like alimony USED to make sense, because women didn’t have a lot of agency, but it’s not like that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:52 PM
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I just want to share my answer, my anger has nothing to do with women having more freedom, it feels like there’s double standards when it comes to equality when it comes to the rhetoric where one group is told that sex is not important and the other group is told that their sex lives are the most important thing. And the group that’s told sex isn’t important, has to pay taxes so the other group can manage their sex lives The only argument so far on birth control being provided by the government …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:35 PM
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It’s just that your original comment made you sound like men are the reason for their own depression and they are close minded for caring about things like height, n count, and money. While I’m trying to explain these insecurities are caused by everyone else expecting men to be a certain height, have a certain sexual history, and have certain finances. And when it’s brought up, there’s always resistance that defaults into, men were always supposed to take destiny into their own hands and create …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:43 PM
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Men have high depression in society That guy: hrmmm I wonder why men are insecure for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON Me: here are some reasons That guy: nah they’re wrong If the people who are the ones that are actually experiencing it, telling you how they feel, then that means that person should just listen, not correct them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:38 PM
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Hell nah, I take the opposite approach, everyone should be much more considerate and realize we live in a community, and all of us should be more mindful to be taking care of each other’s wellbeing. Currently everything is individualism, and our culture promotes that everyone should focus on their own happiness first. If women are complaining about body issues, I’m not gonna tell women that’s her fault, I’m willing to listen why a woman feels that way, and then afterwards I am much more willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:29 PM
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So does that mean women’s insecurity about their looks are caused by themselves and not by society or the opposite gender expecting them to reach a certain standard or be skinny enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:20 PM
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Women are not blamed for being insecure about their own weight or constantly having body issues or being competitive with other women based on their looks, women blame men for making them feel like they have to be competitive or insecure about their looks. Men and women both treat taller men better than shorter men subconsciously (so short men naturally develop a chip on their shoulders), women are more attracted to taller men, divorces increases when wives begin to outearn their husbands, women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:12 PM
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Therapy is where you go in for one problem and wind up leaving with two.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/20 04:29 AM
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A hot 25 year old has 15 years to look youthful until she hits her 40s A hot 35 year old has 5 years left to look youthful before she hits her 40s Why would anyone want to commit to someone for the rest of your life to someone who is about to age rapidly in just a few years
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 11:14 PM
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I get petty easily, I don’t bring up my exes, but the moment she does, I start talking about my exes too so she also knows what it feels like to be with someone who wants to talk about their ex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:02 PM
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Perception is point of view that can be corrected with proper communication or made worse with miscommunication
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:21 AM
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Women also find their partners less attractive if they found out they had sexual experiences with other men, and that they were penetrated or dominated by another man. It’s the idea of intimacy, and men have overactive imaginations, plus they have to put energy into a relationship to make it work. When men imagine their women being intimate with other men, it’s not about what’s logical or not, it simply diminishes our attraction in that moment, and diminished attraction means diminishing motivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:23 PM
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Men view sex as reward from women = bad Women use sex as incentive for men = so? Why is it bad that men view sex as a reward if women use sex to incentive men into things
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:06 PM
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It’s about perception, as long as you communicate well with your partner and they understand, then ideally there should be no conflict But without proper communication, it will simply appear as looking like they put more energy into someone else and you feeling settled for. If a man feels that his partner regretted those acts the first time around, then of course that’s enough common sense to not force it on her, of course there’ll still be the sting of knowing she has unique experiences with ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 04:12 AM
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That’s the point, guys don’t want to force their girlfriends to do sexual things. Guys also think sex is intimate and we feel unloved if our partner says I only wanted to do those intimate things with my ex, Or knowing that there’s another man she was even more intimate and we’re not the man she’s been the most intimate with We don’t wanna feel like rapists, we want to be desired by our girlfriends, and it sucks to get some kind of evidence that your girlfriend used to feel more passion and inti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:46 PM
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Look at the title of this post, its asking if women understand how men feel. If a man doesn’t want to date a woman with extensive sexual history, then everyone around him will come to their own conclusions that men just have outdated notions for no reason and will be shamed into the correct position I’m not complaining, in my own comment I explained that women on average have higher sexual history than men, and that’s reality. My comment is meant to expand on why men feel the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:51 AM
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Yeh yeh Buddhism states life is suffering and all action is about avoiding pain. But some paths are more painful than others If you are being that pedantic about wording, then I will reword my comment. It’s important to teach people not to value themselves based on attractiveness, because that path leads to more pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:21 AM
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I mean my example doesn’t have to be clothes, if a woman sees a hot rich man, she needs to quickly justify why she is attracted to him without revealing she is attracted to his looks and money, and the answers will range from saying it is his personality to liking the way he dresses. And other men will listen to her, copy the man’s personality and clothes, and still be rejected by her because these men paid attention to her words, not her actions. And too many inexperienced men are getting too f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:14 PM
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I was told something similar, that if a girl says something, it means she already felt that way and she needed to justify it If a woman says she likes the way a certain man dresses, it means she already found him attractive but she needed to give a reason why besides just saying he is hot, so she’ll say it’s because he dresses nicely And other men believe that is what she was looking at, and they get angry when they try to dress nicely and see that the same women isn’t giving them any more atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:51 PM
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If you base your value off of casual sex, that means other people will base your value off of your attractiveness. And that means inevitably, one day your value will begin to drop day by day, that’s why I think it’s important to teach people to not value themselves based off how attractive people find them because there’s no happy ending
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:55 PM
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Do you think you represent most women? If most women thought like you did, then why would a woman shame a man with little to no sexual experience wanting to be with a woman who also has little to no sexual experience? Women on average have higher sexual history than men on average, men’s sexlessness also outnumbers women’s sexlessness by quite a large margin. It’s frustrating because the first assumption is always some bullshit answer about how men need to be able to control her or they care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:01 PM
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That’s true, didn’t mean to take this convo off topic. Also I read that baldness accentuates your masculinity if you are muscular. https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/bald-men-are-perceived-as-more-attractive-and-masculine-says-study/amp_etphotostory/70643383.cms https://www.gq.com.au/grooming/hair/studies-say-bald-men-are-more-dominant-and-attractive-than-their-thickhaired-brothers/news-story/d5369e712083818cf49882954aa9af1d/amp https://theleaders-online.com/bald-men-ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:20 AM
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Just wanna point out steroids still requires a fuck ton of hard work. Give thousands of young average men steroids and none of them are gonna come even close to the rocks body
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 04:05 AM
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Grip strength has been falling for the past few generations. I read it has to do with life style change and that long time ago the average man worked with his hands a LOT and each subsequent generation have been doing much less manual labor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 08:10 PM
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It’s ok, it’s not the end of the world, you’ll find your first partner. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:43 PM
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My first girlfriend acted very promiscuous so I just assumed she wasn’t a virgin, right before our first time, she blurts out last minute that she’s a virgin, even though I told myself I don’t care about n-count, I noticed deep down I was kinda happy that she was a virgin. I consciously told myself who cares about n-count, but subconsciously I think I understand the feeling I guess the closest analogy is would you rather go to Disneyland with someone who has never gone before so you guys can exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 02:57 AM
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Again, tinder didn’t ruin anything, it finally exposed how women truly been feeling That’s why there’s the meme that “women are so complicated tee hee” is because society was in denial that women couldn’t possibly be like that
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 11:01 PM
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Its gonna sound like something everyone takes for granted, but having the motivation to chase another person takes up emotional and mental energy. And failure slowly builds up emotional fatigue and guys are typically the ones who chase. Guys are really motivated by sex, imagine what a generation of boys would do to get sex if they only saw the older generation having sex by getting married and having a career. Now imagine this generation of boys who are blasted by conflicting advice everywhere, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:52 PM
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This is what I read, long time ago, the main way for men to secure a source of sex was to get married, and long time ago the only way to get married was to have a career, therefore in guys’ brains, career equaled sex. Today, young guys are seeing what it takes to get laid and it no longer requires marriage or a career, and in fact young guys are told its getting easier and easier for men to get laid, except for only a select group of men Once average men see that the conditions for them to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:39 AM
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Theres a difference between ideal and reality, and in an ideal world, everyone should be able to leave their front doors unlocked, in reality we need to lock our front doors. In an ideal world, life should be easy for everyone, in reality, it’s not. Therefore you should stop wishing for an easy life, and start thinking about how you can better handle what’s in front of you
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 04:58 AM
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I dunno, I’m not a woman, but this is how I imagine it I like buying dinner for people and I like being appreciated for providing but the moment someone tells me I’m supposed to pay because I’m a man, I’m gonna feel used That’s how I imagine it for women, if all of their classmates thought this girl was sexy, she would get a confidence boost from knowing everyone finds her attractive, but she would hate it if everyone told her to be sexy cuz women are supposed to be sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 03:48 AM
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From an Old Showerthought: Women want to be sexy, but they don’t want to be sexually objectified. Men like providing but hate being an ATM
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 03:34 AM
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My understanding of people who make the argument that when it comes to dating, biology shouldn’t be ignored, is because we can’t always delude ourselves into thinking we are happy for the sake of other people Women are biologically attracted to taller men, and it’ll seem a little cruel to force her to be with a midget, because due to her biology, she would be unhappy, despite logically, she can tell herself atleast she’s still with a thoughtful, rich, and kind man. Or even a rich woman who for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 09:49 PM
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Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. -Bruce Lee
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 08:12 PM
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Trust me, I had a lot of cute innocent friends nobody would’ve ever expected to dive into hooking up, you just don’t know which friends are down for hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:14 PM
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I can’t find the person who said it, but there’s a quote that goes like: Any statistic that shows women are advantaged is a sign of progress. Any statistic that shows men are advantaged is a sign of injustice.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 10:30 PM
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You’re right, that’s even more reason for women to have no insecurities about their weight, there’s places where being skinny isn’t prioritized, whereas male height is universally praised
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:22 PM
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Yeh and couple of my friends in high school married chubby girls, so I guess the fact that majority of men are attracted to skinnier women is now debunked and has no bearing on women’s insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:18 PM
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To be fair, it’s mainly that first point that men refer to when we say women have too high standards for. Most women want a guy who is taller than the majority of guys, most women want a guy who makes more money than the majority of guys, most women want a guy who is more confident than the majority of guys, most women want a guy who has less problems than the majority of guys. All women want the top guys. Your list of traits for a man is listed so disingenuously, “oh boo hoo the reason I can’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:11 PM
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Here’s how somebody else explained it to me, the difference between a hot 25 year old and a hot 35 year old is that the hot 35 year old only has a few years of her youth left while you can enjoy another decade of youth from a 25 year old.
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 02:37 AM
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There’s a quote that goes something like: “A stay at home wife means she married a rich man, a stay at home husband means she married a lazy man.” Ironically, being a stay at home wife used to be a sign of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:18 PM
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At what point is something a projection or a reasonable fear? You can make anyone sound bad The only reason any girlfriend would hate their boyfriends watching porn is because they want to make sure she’s the only person they find sexually attractive because she wants to maintain control and leverage in the relationship. No other reason, not like I need to ask women why they feel insecure about porn, I can just project my own reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:33 AM
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It’s like a woman wearing make up, it increases your chances of success, but ideally, a woman should just find a man who’ll find her beautiful without the make up. There’s no point decreasing your own chances at dating success, might as well keep your dating success higher even at the expense of screening for Mr./Ms. Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:33 PM
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In politics class, we learned that early countries couldn’t focus on social programs like educating everyone because a country that didn’t focus on its military would soon find itself conquered by its neighbors. History was quite cruel Reality is lame, but there’s a saying, a strong person who doesn’t wanna fight is peaceful, a weak person who doesn’t wanna fight is harmless. If you want to enforce the luxury of peace, you gotta make sure no one else is stronger than you. Which is another saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:54 PM
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Tangentially related I read that one theory why there were no early non religious civilizations was because religion increases social cohesion, a common purpose, and a threat of punishment, which allowed them to prosper, survive, and conquer other civilizations that had less social cohesion Same for music, it’s theorized music also helped with survival by allowing large groups of people to sync up to the same emotional wavelength, which theorized to increase survivability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:48 AM
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Ok well you’re not a guy, and straight girls report much higher interactions of lesbian experiences, so maybe to girls, being unattractive is just being unattractive and sexual orientation matters much less to girls so I’m just gonna flat out tell you, as a man, I would rather have sex with a fat ugly woman a hundred times than one time with another dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:47 AM
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So I’m guessing sexual orientation is a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:22 AM
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I’m not sure about other people, but this is how it was explained to me. The difference between marrying a hot 25 year old and a hot 35 year old, is that a 25 year old will look young for another 15 years while the 35 year old will only look young for another 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:20 AM
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Dude you sound like a fat acceptance chick, they’re angry that they don’t fit into the typical model of beauty standards that the opposite gender holds, so they claim to fight against it. Doesn’t matter what your principles are, at the end of the day women care about a man’s financial security or social status and you’re just bitter that you aren’t rich or cool enough for women to find attractive so you claim to just not want anything to do with women who care about stupid stuff like finances
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:15 AM
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I grew up being religiously told all women just have the absolute worse lives, and all men have better lives, and I felt sorry for women all having worse lives than me, which turned me into a super blue pilled white knight because I seriously thought all women had terrible lives. Now I know ugly girls, and ugly guys are the ones with the worse lives, and I can’t help but find myself trying to give more genuine attention to conventionally unattractive people because I want some type of justice in…
/r/MGTOW06/11/20 11:12 PM
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Fine then, let’s get back to our original argument, we both agree that modern child support is stupid, because women have enough autonomy to make their own decisions. You think child support has always been a stupid concept, and your explanation was that it was even HARDER to get accidentally pregnant long time ago versus today?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/20 10:07 PM
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Long time ago, marriages were considered the building block for a family You wouldn’t get married unless you were trying to build a family long time ago, in fact, it was considered a sin to purposely be childless Getting married meant kids were implicitly agreed upon
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/20 09:55 PM
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Even before condoms and contraceptives, roughly 40% of the population resulted from accidental pregnancy, however there wasn’t 40% single moms. Back then there were even shotgun weddings, if a guy got your daughter pregnant, you held a shotgun on him until he proposed to your daughter There’s a saying, it takes 2 to tango, so if a young woman got accidentally pregnant, it was followed up with a guy who was forced to take care of her, which made sense since long time ago, men had much more autono…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/20 09:48 PM
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Back then the law actually had a reason. Back then, before condoms and contraceptives became commonplace, and men mostly worked, it was quite easy to get accidentally pregnant and the man had to step up (you would be surprised how much of the human population was born by accident). Now women have so many chances to prevent the baby from being born, with condoms, birth control pills, and abortion, at this point, there’s no such thing as accidentally having a baby, every woman that has a baby chos…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/20 09:41 PM
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More like, start to notice slowly that the red pill is able to explain for social phenomenons that other doctrines fail to explain for I was religiously told that girls care about personality more than looks, then I noticed my beliefs didnt line up with reality, which makes you start to further question your old beliefs It’s like someone being religiously told all women are evil sluts, and realizing women aren’t that bad, and then they go other opposite way, well it just so happens i grew up wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 12:03 AM
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What is better for society? 10 criminals get jailed but also 1 innocent person also gets jailed, or 10 criminals go free, but the innocent person is also saved. I prefer to live in a society where we focus on protecting the innocent more than punishing the guilty. Abortion is fucked up, unfortunately, there’s always going to be a small genuine group that needs these rights, and they should be taken care of over the majority that choose to abuse this privilege. In an ideal society there would be …
/r/MGTOW03/11/20 03:31 AM
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Oh I’m not trying to predict the future, there are so many trends that are rapidly changing, like you said, even religion itself is rapidly being disassociated with the right, since the entire political spectrum has been shifting to the left. But birth rate has been declining for every demographic except religious people, so there’s a notion that religion will increase again. I was born and raised in a super fundamentalist religious family and I couldn’t help but just reject religion in high sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:08 AM
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Wording is important, instead saying teach my kids to stay unhappy It’s more like, teaching them “responsibility” and that in the future, once you have kids, you cannot always prioritize your own happiness, and that is simply life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:33 AM
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Although we might not see a religious future, there’s strong prediction that our future is going to be republican, because republicans tend to be religious, and religious people tend to have multiple babies in their young 20s, which means the next generation are mostly going to be the children of religious people and Republicans, which will feed into a cycle of increasing the rates of religion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:27 AM
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Divorce rates are higher despite a lower rate of marriage Babies more often born to cohabiting couples versus married couples Cohabitating couples more likely to split than married couples Currently the highest rate of single motherhood Most crimes, violence, and terrorist attacks come from fatherless homes The advice that unhappy married couples with kids should just split is advice that has recently been gaining traction in the past decade or two The correct solution to an unhappy marriage is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:07 AM
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There’s a limit, if a father regrets becoming a father and husband, he doesn’t just get to ask himself if he’s happy or not, and then decide his happiness is more important than his children’s. It’s called responsibility. And then there’s the excuse “what if exposing my kids to my terrible marriage makes their lives worse? Shouldn’t I split with my wife/husband to make them happier?” Only if it gets to that point, but first, parents have a responsibility to display a healthy relationship for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:38 AM
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Not really, if you read the article, it just says everyone went from marriage to cohabitation. So many kids are still being born in a household with a father and mother figure. But unmarried couples with children are still more likely to split than a married couple with kids
/r/MGTOW07/10/20 08:27 PM
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Quote from a pilot, it’s better to be on the ground and wishing you were in the air, than to be in the air and wishing you were on the ground.
/r/RedPillWomen07/10/20 01:25 AM
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Anti-sexism is just sexism in a different direction. The guy in the post is being sexist and doesn’t realize it, thinking women should get the job because of her gender is sexist. Saying “hire the most qualified person for the job” is now sexist because otherwise only men get hired
/r/MGTOW29/09/20 09:52 PM
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Purposely not correcting a misconception is also considered lying. Girls know that guys don’t like it if they are seeing multiple men at the same time If there is information you don’t want the other guy finding about you because it might hurt the chances of getting what you want, that counts as manipulation. If you don’t want the guy you’re seeing to find out you’re dating other men by attempting to keep that information away from him, that counts as hiding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 11:04 PM
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The fact that women have to hide the fact that they are dating other men from other men is proof that they know it’ll lower their chances to get what they want, so come it doesn’t fall under lying or manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 09:32 PM
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Men tend to have a return on investment on society if they keep working into their 30s. Since there are so many social programs for women, and since they generate less tax income, most women are actually a negative impact on society unless they pop out a baby. No matter whatever ideology says, the numbers don’t lie, society would not be able to stay operational without men
/r/MGTOW22/09/20 09:05 PM
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People typically try harder in relationships when they feel chemistry and butterflies in their stomach. And people who settle for their partner typically experience discontent and resentment. No woman wants to hear her husband say he only married her because he couldn’t find a prettier wife No man wants to hear that his wife chose him because she couldn’t lock down the exciting guy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 11:33 PM
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Girls are actually self aware that high body counts are gross, that’s why they always hide it from a partner or potential partner. But they’re definitely trying to normalize high body counts
/r/MGTOW18/09/20 11:51 PM
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Lying by omission is basically changing or omitting information that you think will affect the other person’s decision (failure to correct a misconception is also considered lying) If a girl downplays or avoids talking about her n-count because it increases her chance at a relationship, is she being manipulative because she is either lying or lying by omission to increase her chances to get what she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 11:52 PM
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I’m not sure if I’m making myself even more brainwashed, but I try to take in every single news source from every political sphere, even ones that I don’t agree with, so I have an idea of what everyone is consuming.
/r/MGTOW16/09/20 08:54 PM
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Does anyone even have a choice to leave society? Is anyone able to effectively like free lives on property where they aren’t shackled to or can actually afford? We’re forced to participate in society with no other options. Men are even individually measured by society by how long it takes for someone to have a return on society versus how much was invested into someone while women are typically measured by how many babies they’ll have in their lifetime, we’re all just a source of tax and baby ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:11 PM
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It’s something small but I noticed they said women and girls first. I remember feminists used to complain that when people said “men and women” or “boys and girls” that men and boys being said first was considered sexist. So instead of boys and girls, I would just say kids, instead of men and women, I just said people. Now feminists in these institutions are changing the language towards what they originally complained about.
/r/MGTOW09/09/20 04:39 AM
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I remember reading about how gender ratios affect sexual behaviors. And it mentioned how typically after wars, where large amounts of men died, and the ratio was offset with much more women than men, society becomes much more sexually liberal, and even described “the smaller group of men benefit much more with much more access to sex.” And described when men outnumber women, then men and women become much more conservative in their relationships. And men take the relationships more seriously. Ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 10:10 PM
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All of the best friendships I’ve had with girls were when I already had a relationship, because I already felt secured in my life and sex life, which allowed me to feel comfortable around other girls Every time I was single and hung out with girls, it was physically painful because my mind would drift to loneliness, sex, and love, and girls in my life love to talk about their sex lives. When a guy already has a girlfriend, it becomes incredibly easy to be friends with girls and not think about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 09:17 PM
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I only had one female manager I respected, and that was because she earned her position. She worked her ass off, and I saw it. She doesn’t bring up how she’s a girl, or whatever. When someone actually earns their position, you don’t mind listening to them. But the moment it feels like someone got their position because of something not related to merit or hard work, it’s hard to respect them, even goes the same for men. But it’s just that much more common that a woman got her position because of…
/r/MGTOW03/09/20 12:01 AM
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I’m pretty sure these are brother and sister, and are both the children of Michael. The son is a stereotypical loser that only smokes weed and plays game, and pretends to be a gangster and flexes in public And the daughter is a slut that tries to get everyone to validate her by her sexiness (one of the mission is her dancing on a boat full of rich guys, and the other is her on the parody of America’s got talent, except she just dances sexily on the host)
/r/MGTOW02/09/20 11:21 PM
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Uhhhh, I don’t know the ratios of men to women, but it’s actually not uncommon for women to also be found running illegal brothels and sex work from massage places. When we think brothel or illegal sex work, we instantly think of a pimp who is running it, but many women have been caught running illegal sex operations as well Ironically (?) I think it’s pretty sexist that we assume women don’t participate in running illegal sex rings because women would never ever do that because women are natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 10:32 PM
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Now that you put it that way Men should be the ones to retire sooner than women and collect social security earlier since men have shorter life spans.
/r/MGTOW02/09/20 03:42 AM
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Put yourself in her shoes and think logically. Do you think you can be a single father, find a girlfriend who doesn’t want her own kids, but is willing to raise someone else’s, while also helping you pay your bills? Do you think any woman who receives this proposition will be excited to marry him?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/20 08:10 PM
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Someone explained, when you’re married, you spend an hour or less in the morning with your wife, then work all day, then come home, and spend a couple hours with her before you fall asleep and repeat. It’s normal for most people to only spend a few hours a day with their spouse, and for the first time they have actually be together 24/7.
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 10:22 PM
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Reminds me of the quote that went something like “You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of reality.”
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 10:18 PM
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America is all about liability, if you own a bakery, and instead of throwing out the bread at the end of the day, if you give it to homeless people for free, and they get sick, they can sue you, it sucks but it really is about protecting yourself, not about being too lazy to distribute food
/r/MGTOW28/08/20 10:14 PM
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I’m just a shy guy, and always got rejected by the girls that I tried to ask out, but I’ve dated or hooked up girls who asked me out. I’ve yet to successfully have a single girl say yes to me about anything, so you just sort of learn to just make yourself approachable and presentable until a girl approaches you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:18 PM
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There was an article of hundreds of little African girls put into child marriages, and everyone was outraged, around the same time there was an article of hundreds of little African boys being killed or used as child soldiers, and it got way less sympathy or attention The truth is, women prefer prioritizing safety of other women, and men prefer prioritizing other women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:02 PM
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My red pill from that 70s show Donna’s mom : I think your annoying friend is right Donna : What? Donna’s mom : Certain things change Donna : Eric and I have been playing games our whole lives, sometimes he wins and sometimes I win Donna’s mom : No, I mean the rules change. Women have to pretend to be weak and fragile so that men can feel superior Donna : That's insane! If women don't learn to stand up for themselves then men will always control the World! Donna’s mom : starts laughing Oh Honey, …
/r/MGTOW27/08/20 11:46 PM
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My personal theory, and I found no backing or evidence for it, so take my comment as my 2 cents, but I noticed I would never ever talk about my problems with women because it was social suicide to let others know you had trouble with women And more and more men are talking about their troubles with women, which doesn’t make it embarrassing anymore
/r/MGTOW25/08/20 04:38 AM
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