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I always do, dry grab
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:04 AM
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I didn't ask lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:08 AM
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Yeah, absolutely Sure, if the're into it Maybe, everything else in my life would have to be perfect tho Fuck no, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:40 PM
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Really? Pain during sex is more likely due to this than anything else? Even if so, she should still communicate about it like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:24 PM
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I don't kiss and tell, have some class. If you can't use a search engine to figure out how common evangelical hypocrisy is in America then this conversation was pointless before it started. Courtney Tillia came up in under a second on Google, lift a finger ffs lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 04:17 PM
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Those are the only porn actresses lol, Pam and Carmen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:52 PM
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Women who want their man to be a golden retreiver.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:51 PM
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Let's get the opinion of your victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:47 PM
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Nah, I've seen it both ways. A lot of the porn actresses I worked with were hardcore 'rules for thee but not for me' conservative Christians. Like, a surprising amount of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:43 PM
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Not only can bears smell fear in most mammals, but it does make their brains release dopamine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:01 PM
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I used to think that until my fiancé's Mirena IUD completely changed her hormone levels and made her practically artificially asexual. But I've since grown up. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:54 PM
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Your written words are not proof of anything lol, get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:49 PM
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Irony is my favorite thing lol. Are you talking about the irony of calling a stranger your love, or the irony of complaining about objectification while objectifying? You saying "i dont buy it" when stats are brought into the discussion You mentioned stats but never showed any. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:33 PM
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I mean, when you are already committed to enduring bad sex due to your refusal to communicate, ghosting is admittedly the least harm you could cause. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:26 PM
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my love I am a stranger, and I am already in committed relationships. For someone clutching pearls over the risk of objectification, it's kind of funny to see you casually objectifying me. common damaging effects of pornography for users can include addiction, isolation, increased aggression, distorted beliefs and perceptions about relationships and sexuality, negative feelings about themselves, and neglecting other areas of their lives None of this constitutes proof, and I don't buy that these …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:25 PM
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So you'd rather date a progressive woman? Over a conservative, absolutely. Go on r/TwoXChromosomes and r/askfeminists, and take a read. No thanks. These are how the women you'd like to date feel about you. You think just because someone posts to those two subreddits they're progressive? Lmfao Are these really the women you want to date? They're like 90% ChatGPT. Touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:22 PM
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Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely. Lol, no First and foremost, conservative women... actually like men as people, while progressive women don't. Since it was a mostly conservative woman who tried to kill me for rejecting her, I'm inclined to disagree. All my worst relationships were with conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:04 PM
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I can see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:02 PM
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Preferable to have good sex the first time by communicating like an adult instead of having bad sex with any number of partners. Your dedication to having bad sex is almost admirable, have to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:57 PM
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If the sex hurts the first time, the man is doing something very wrong lol or is abnormally big. Or the woman has vaginismus, or she developed a yeast infection due to bad hygiene. Or she has an STI that causes open sores when untreated. There are a lot more reasons for pain during sex than "hur dur man too bad or man too big", and all of them are made worse by refusing to communicate about the pain. I have no problem talking about sex You wrote in your previous comment that you wouldn't say any…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:54 PM
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Because this place isn't representative of a proportionate cross section of all humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:19 PM
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Yeah I don't believe you, and I don't feel any need to cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:18 PM
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So stop creeping yourself out with shit you made up in your head just to creep yourself out. Nobody asked you to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:17 PM
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Honestly I just wouldn't sleep with a guy again if it hurt the first time so no need to even tell him. Or you could just communicate in the moment like an adult. Choosing to have bad sex instead is kind of silly. Tbh men are mentally fragile You're the one who cannot bear to talk explicitly about sex, even to spare yourself from getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:16 PM
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Show us the science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:03 PM
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Not true lol lots of men reject their (long term) partner to jerk off instead. Nah, not 'lots'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:02 PM
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If someone who doesn't give up porn for a relationship is a porn addict, Nah. Piss poor definition for an addict, they could watch porn together. Hell they could make porn together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:00 PM
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Got any proof of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:59 PM
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So can we, and society hates us less for doing so. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:43 PM
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Nah you cannot. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:41 PM
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Two pump chump. Pump and dump. Honestly most of them have to do with men whose plumbing doesn't work or who are emotionally unavailable, which really goes to show who is actually causing the orgasm gap. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:41 PM
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Because none of the men I’ve ever been with have had to tell me anything to expect good sex where I’m not behaving inappropriately. So you fuck totally silently? Kinda creepy!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:39 PM
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Maybe the actual problem is the belief in the monolithic man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:37 PM
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Ladies first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:35 PM
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I mean, it's also a problem for the dude to believe he did everything right only for 10 hours later to be told over text that he was actually hurting someone he is trying to care about. That shit is not free, it takes a toll on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:34 PM
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Is "the right one" the entire AskRedditAfterDark sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:33 PM
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It’s a fool’s errand to try and endlessly measure “who deserves who.” The process does not need to be "endless". It is quickly obvious who is and who is not making choices according to a realistic understanding of their limitations. If anything your choice to hyperbolize this totally everyday process only implies your own unfamiliarity with it. “Mediocrity” or “high value” can be measured in literally any metric Anything can be measured with any metric, that is not unique. Mediocrity can only be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:06 PM
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My ex got her tubal ligation at 20. Turn your screen on sweaty. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:18 PM
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OP is mad that “mediocre” women are holding out for men who he deems as “too good” for them, however one can even measure that? It's really easy. All you have to do is observe any given person's appearance, conduct, perspective, and personality - then conceptualize how those factors play into a romantic relationship for better or worse. Mediocrity is nothing more than the inability to set oneself apart from the tolerably average. The more a person's character conforms with the mean of any qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:36 PM
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I actually tried to get a tubual when I was single, in two countries and three different states, and every single doctor told me I was too young to make that decision How odd, that's the exact same thing that happens to men under 35 who want vasectomies. You don’t know enough about the practical accessibility of women’s healthcare or the actual biological affects of pregnancy to have this conversation. Sure I do, I'm having this conversation. Meanwhile you don't seem literate enough to recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:47 PM
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If you think these things contradict each other it is on you to explain how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:26 PM
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If women don't want to risk pregnancy they can take advantage of the bodily autonomy they have and get a tubal ligation. Does paying child support biologically age men by seven years and put their health, life, and future employment opportunities at risk? It actually ages men 18 years and puts every aspect of their lives at risk yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:25 PM
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Link to the post for the week?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:54 PM
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Learn to write what you actually mean then. Or are you helpless at expressing yourself? This: Why shouldn't that be memoryless, as you put it, and affect your relationship only a little bit? Is just you making a special plea for ungratefulness to have zero consequences. One of those consequences, despite your mewling, is that people will see you as a less worthy recipient of their time energy and consideration. Do you need any other basic aspects of social dynamics spelled out for you? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:59 PM
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I'm never worried. 💅 I don't bother with remembering faceless anonymous accounts unless they impress me. If you happen to have written multiple silly things that caught my attention and do not want my replies, you can always stop interacting with me specifically or online forums in general. If you need to characterize my boredom and criticism as obsession that's kind of sad, but it is also a telling sign of why you confuse vanity indulgence with meaningful friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:55 PM
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It makes sense when you read it. 🤷‍♂️ Why did you say "if she doesn't value his input" then? Because I was indulging the premise of your claim that she does not. Obviously. That is what "If she doesn't value his input" means, it's the first definition I showed you: "An introduction to a conditional clause". Is this a bit, or is reading English always this much of a struggle for you? Or are you feigning literary incompetence for the sake of derailing the topic away from how the women who act the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:51 PM
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Then your argument was either written incompetently, or you cannot be trusted to remain consistent with your own words. Either way, you're dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:46 PM
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I have plenty of male friends and we all think/behave like this. Then you have a bunch of male aquaintences who are indulging your vanity. Sorry to be the one to tell you. 💅 Based on our previous interactions I'm sensing it's not me who doesn't understand how friendships work 💅 If you think I was ever trying to be your friend that fits with the rest of your confusion around bonding with men. 😘 Have we spoken before? While it is pleasant to be remembered I can't offer the same in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:19 PM
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Where did I say I she is or is not? Do you not know what "if" means? Here, take a helping hand: "If": conjunction 1.(introducing a conditional clause) on the condition or supposition that; in the event that. "if you have a complaint, write to the director" Similar: -on condition that -provided (that) -providing (that) -presuming (that) -supposing (that) -assuming (that) -on the assumption that -allowing (that) -as long as -given that -with/on the understanding that -if and only if -contingent on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:17 PM
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Your advice and ear are nowhere near as valuable as her willingness to hang out with someone with an anemic social life. Anyone who thinks like this is a deadweight to everyone around them lol Like just by believing this crap they tank whatever 'value' they think they have into the negative. All I want in return from someone like this is to be as far from involved in my life as possible. If all she brings to the table is her existence and unearned hubris then she is a liability, not an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:05 PM
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Lol no it isn't. If she doesn't value what she is asking for she won't value the person who answers either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:02 PM
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"Well seeing as though I cannot refute the argument I'm just going to attack Op as a person"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:01 PM
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I'm not arguing that nobody should have mutual responsibilities towards others. I'm saying that those things should be proportional in magnitude. No you aren't. You are saying that an act of goodwill is literally valueless and should be forgotten without any reciprocity or even gratitude - all because you decided it is trivial. But if it is so trivial, why ask for the help in the first place? I think you shouldn't expect loyalty or a deep bond because you gave someone dating advice once. No one …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:00 PM
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This is sad if this has been your experience. Most men are facing a rather bleak and tragic existence at the moment, yeah. Treat that man well, it sounds like you're a rare exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:54 PM
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Thank you, finally some reasonable analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:52 PM
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It's how shallow people pretend to bond. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:50 PM
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It isn't a way to bond with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:50 PM
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Asking for advice is a form of bonding Christ. What a threadbare bond. It's not like they needed your particular POV. Then it was a performative indulgence and a waste of time. You thought you were making an effort for her when actually it's the other way around. She was bonding with you. Lol Women who think like this don't keep male friends. They just use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:49 PM
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If the women in your life don't support you, how would debating about it, especially here, change anything? It won't. Do you really think anyone believes it would?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:44 PM
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No rational woman would listen to a chick who had rejected the man. There's groups 100k strong of women who do nothing but that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:40 PM
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Exactly how does she cockblock you? There was this one woman I rejected who tried to convince other women that I have herpes by downloading a pic of a herpes infected dick and claiming I sent it to her unsolicited. This backfired when word got around that she couldn't prove the pic was mine or came from me, and backfired harder when another woman found the same pic on a website. But for years I still had people thinking I have herpes, when I've never had any STI. Not even HPV. So no, that behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:39 PM
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Lol this is just a lie I say that despite how both of my best relationships started with women who approached me. They are still vastly outnumbered by the women I approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:22 PM
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I think a surface level glance over the comments here will show you one thing. Men act already defeated before they have even stepped out of the house. Refusing to pay to go speed dating is being defeated? So how many of these venues do you own? Lol I would never go to war with guys like these. They are waving a white flag before they have even been issued a rifle. Why do you want to go to war in the first place? This is a thread about dating. They go out to get. They want to get approval, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 PM
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Hahahaha Only took two comments to uncover the "strong = good, weak = bad" watermark of the insecure man. You just like to pretend men more outgoing I just like to speak and write in coherent English. Calm down and try it for yourself. makes you feel better about yourself for being too insecure to approach women Lol I approach women all the time. Very few things make my fiancé feel sexier than watching her man run some game on other women. She gets off on how desirable I am, so what do I have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:01 PM
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"Women can sense when you want them to like them, cause that is weakness. You should only pursue the women who make you feel nothing inside, keep the stakes low. Cause that's what a secure and confident person would do!" I am funnier, that's why women actually like me 💅😘
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:44 PM
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It is. Most people are looking for a long term partner, not to be told they’re attractive. Guess what makes it insanely easier to find a long term partner? Being attractive! Listen, I am attractive enough as a man to pay for grad school using sex work. Being attractive is an enormous advantage, and trying to portray it as anything else is laughably delusional. Maybe for insecure people like you, being hit on for your looks is everything, Oh yeah, it's totally everything. That's definitely an acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:42 PM
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Yeah, assuming you’ll be rejected is insecure It's speed dating. Unless you literally get every single person you are matched with, you will be rejected. You would have to be an insane megalomaniacal freak or a barely sapient fool to think you won't be rejected lmfao I’m a man. Idc Stop making excuses to be a wuss. Speed dating is for wusses lmfao And go outside I'm literally outside right now, eating breakfast under my favorite tree. It's over 260 years old! Since the leaves are gone I can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:39 PM
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Fucking THANK YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:23 PM
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No, you can’t. Confident people don’t care about rejection. Hahahahahaha This is an insecure person's understanding of confidence word for word. Confidence is not immunity to the opinions of others. Confidence is the belief in oneself established by prior success. You don't gain confidence before doing the thing that scares you, you only gain it after making the attempt and succeeding. What you're describing? That's contrived denial, or sociopathy. The average person who goes out regularly to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:17 PM
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Lmfao So not wanting to pay to pad women's unearned ego is "social anxiety and insecurity"?? Hahahahahahaha Impossible to take this seriously, this is just femcel whinging
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:10 PM
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Lol "Women are superbeings with mind reading powers who can smell your every sin!" Fucking hell you're hysterical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:09 PM
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"You don't understand, being pretty isn't a privilege it's a curse!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:08 PM
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You could not have misunderstood him more revealingly lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:04 PM
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Maybe it is for you. My two longest, best, and ongoing relationships started with women approaching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:02 PM
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After some point, don't you just get used to it? No. Tf? Are you even capable of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:55 PM
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Hahahahaha "I'm initiating just by existing" Lmao you'll never get it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:54 PM
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Nobody's standards are an objective valuation of that and men should stop using female attention as a measure of self worth It's easy to say this when you have never experienced the absences of attention men have to endure. It's like trying to tell a person that it is ok to be alone sometimes while they're on their 145th day of solitary confinement. It is a demonstration of a complete refusal to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:53 PM
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What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events? Because they are not for men. I’ve read a number of Reddit posts, including a few from this sub, where a number of ladies complain about there being few men attending speed dating events and the women are always frustrated that no men appear. It's always so funny reading those. Just dozens or even hundreds of women scoring goals against themselves. This is a situation I’ve also seen from YouTube and it seems to align with a broad…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:40 PM
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Right, because the claim that leading with emotional intimacy wins women's affection is a nakedly absurd lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:11 PM
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Lol oh yeah totally. I just hang out in bars, quietly helping ladies unpack their trauma and work through their emotional hangups. My pickup line is going up to a woman and demanding they listen as I unload my most uncomfortably private insecurities on her. Chicks can't get enough of me, I literally have to fight them off with my hardcover copy of the DSM-5. This is so fuckin silly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:22 PM
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Sure, but none of that changes how liberal men are complaining about being blamed and women in this very thread are accusing them of having victim complexes for it. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:49 AM
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Based ... areas. I appreciate you mentioning that. However how you hope Following hope is a mistake of ambition outstripping our power. I prefer to use hope as a defense, not as a compass. My primary goal is twofold: survival and breaking generational curses. I can do neither with conservativism. It's not more complicated than that. I personally feel like I’ve given up on them ... which just isn’t what someone like me signed up for. I mostly avoid networking with others on political issues these…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:43 AM
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So you cannot tell the difference, because there is none and you know it. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:28 AM
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Exactly. I'm no stranger to this, and I am not even saying this is a coordinated effort by women either. It's a, specifically, thoughtless disregard for men's experiences and feelings that is the problem. If it was coordinated it would be more predictable and easier to both cope with as well as describe the whole mess to people who were not in the room when the drama went down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:28 AM
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Even by your rationale. It's not mine lol, give me some credit! I only know what parts of me need to be cut off to imitate it. When parsing the delusions of the greedy, you have to remember that they are working with less humanity than you are. You need families. Because without families you don't have replacement fertility. Without replacement fertility you don't have a sufficient labor force. No, the people with their hands on the buttons and switches of our society don't. Human beings are lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:09 AM
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You're ignoring the part where I said this also happens in person and offline why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:51 PM
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Completely disagree. Women naturally assume and project depth and breadth to men that we do not possess or would care to possess I don't hate myself or women even 1/1,000,000th of the degree I would need to in order to consider this claim as potentially valid. This is just naked misandry dude, and benevolent misogyny. In reality the cognitive desparity between the sexes is orders of magnitude less than the disparity between individuals of the same sex. I may be deep but when it comes to which pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:50 PM
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What are you talking about. Iraq was enormously profitable for Mil-Ind contractors. That's the only standard of victory that matters anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:42 PM
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This post was written by a liberal man lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:39 PM
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So they would have overturned it anyway, since the tenuousness or solidity of legal reasoning behind it is little more than a fig leaf of aesthetic preference for comprehensiveness than an actual vector of interest for the powers who have interest in this issue. It's just the ball and cup game where the ball is the fantasy that liberal sensibilities about justice would be shared across all partisan factions with a seat at the table, and the cups are the various institutions who actually have dir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:36 PM
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Conservative women must be excluded from the conversation for the same reasons firefighting foam must be kept out of the Springfield Tire Fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:24 PM
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Damn. Earned a follow for this one. 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:20 PM
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Nah, you right, no men interact with women ever, were all just second class citizens either worshipping women while their boyfriends come home or hiding in dark corners while the women have fun outside. Quote me where I wrote anything about your own psychosexual cuckold fantasies dude. Go ahead and try. You may have an easier time realizing I never wrote any of that shit, after you turn off the projector. Give it a shot. Nobody has normal relationships with women anymore The fuck is "normal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:18 PM
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You'd be surprised. Thanks 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:15 PM
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Political parties are evil by nature, sorry. All of them are structurally incapable of doing anything but increasing ambient conflict. And not to be a pedant, but Dems only claim to be for something not as bad. It is a crucial distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:11 PM
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Oh none of this shit made me do anything but lean left harder. Thankful for it too, there's light at the end of that tunnel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:09 PM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:01 PM
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... no dude. Lack of sex being a dealbreaker for men is a cultural trope that is literally older than the invention of written language. What women don't understand about men is how much depth and breadth there is to our minds and feelings despite the persistent sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:45 PM
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All of it really. Hell, I'd argue that women today know less about what men actually want than just a generation ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:41 PM
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It's interesting that few "educated" young people in big cities seem willing to question deliberate childlessness, modern notions of dating & sexuality, large scale government intervention in the economy, or a secular worldview🤔 Have you ever met any? Questioning everything we are and do feels like well over 50% of what we do. Its existential rumination from sea to shining sea lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:37 PM
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Since they don't go through the physical aspect of pregnancy, they have zero incentives to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Um, bullshit. A society with less dysfunctional parent/child relationships is better for everyone. I'm worried about the men who want kids without the responsibilities. 🙄 Men? They can go around impregnating a bunch of women at the same time and promise support only to pull the financial abortion card after the fact. No we can't. That's why men want paper abortions. And if wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:27 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I am in favor of paper abortions and I find this logic is sound. Avoiding unwanted pregnancies is a no brainer to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:25 PM
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Finantial abortion arguments are incoherent Oh boy. Financial, btw. If true equality should exist between the sex, finantial abortions should be an option for men, because women can opt out of parenthood via abortion, thus, a similar right of opting out of parenthood should exist for men. The incoherence: 1. Abortion is not about parenthood, but bodily autonomy Parenthood is the socially and legally enforced status of subordinating your own bodily autonomy to the needs of your child. So your cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:23 PM
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Profit incentive and the superstructure's addiction to infinite growth mean that families are secondary (maybe even tertiary) priorities to our society. In our civilization, people exist to have their labor exploited for profit. Profit does not exist to foster families, families exist to increase profit. In fact, everything our civilization permits, it does so for the sake of increasing profits. So long as our economy is built to maximize private wealth extraction, human happiness and human surv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:15 PM
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Hahahahaha You actually believe this, or are you pulling my leg?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:56 PM
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Reported for harrasment. Find a more creative way to troll, you're boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:51 PM
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The guy moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Explain how that changes the complete extermination of Palestinians into anything else. He's bought and paid for by the Israelis, among others. Trump is Israel's bitch, now it will only get worse. The "others" include literally every single federal level elected official from both parties, as well as the unelected leadership of both parties, every SCOTUS justice, and every POTUS since WWII. Tell me what the difference will be in exact obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:49 PM
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I ain't the one blaming all men for electing trump You're just the one blaming pro-choice men for feeling alienated by the people who are blaming all men for Trump, I know. Most women aren't. How tf could you possibly know?? This is a delusion y'all have made up in your heads. Said the lady who claims to know what all women are doing. Plenty of people are blaming the religious crowds, you just filter that out No I don't. Tf? The existence of those who blame men doesn't erase those who blame the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:46 PM
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Dude you named one person bitching about their boss I didn't write that. I wrote she went on an anti-man tirade. She did not mention the person who mismanaged her (who is actually nonbinary but presents as male), she just glared at me for half my break while whinging about all men. I don't know if she knows the shift manager is nb but the point is glaring at a guy while going in a quarter hour diatribe about how men are the root of all evil is abusive. That's a hostile work environment. "You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:37 PM
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No I'm saying y'all got twisted ideas on what abuse is. Collectively blaming men for an election outcome men are not all responsible for is an act of objectifying men, which is a form of emotional abuse. So you're saying our concept of abuse is "twisted" specifically because it includes the abuse you like to inflict on men. Not one person here has given me an actual example of abuse yet. I've given you multiple, and now I have explained why OP's post is complaining about the abuse of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:16 PM
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Sad_and_grossed_out has repeatedly stated she is a lady. I am curious how you think anything you wrote here diverges from anything I wrote. You are conflating people feeling frustrated from false accusations with feeling guilty. That's not semantics. OP's post (the title, even) specifically mentions men feeling collective guilt No, the title literally says they are being saddled with collective guilt. I already told you that "saddled with collective guilt" =/= "feels guilty". So why bring up a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:13 PM
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Ooooh shit are you a boomer or older gen x? Wrong and wrong. No wonder you got such a huge victim complex. Said the person who is literally arguing women are too historically victimized by men to abuse men. My boomer conservative dad would also agree with your talking points even thought he can't point to any abuse outside random strangers social media with no real life examples of anything. I named three real life examples and your only reaction was to immediately erase them, so I am inclined t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:06 PM
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I think abuse is harmful, and the harm it inflicts has consequences that are bad enough that abuse should be opposed. If you want to keep proving OP is right by arguing abuse is ok, don't let me stop you. You defend abusing men. To you a good man is just a man who tolerates you despite all your abuse. Why should I care what you think a good man is? Your concept of a good man excludes men with intact self respect and healthy relationships. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:56 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment? Nope, unlike you I can keep track of the conversation. That's the whole comment. Not leaving anything out. Why are you lying? You're leaving out the comment they replied to. Here is the whole exchange: Lady who replied to OP: "Weird I don't know any men who voted against trump who feel blamed or alienated along with conservative men by women 🤷🏻‍♀️ If the shoe doesn't fit..." Man you replied to, replying to lady: "Hi, I voted for kamala in a swing state and I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:52 PM
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I'm not abusing any men Erasing abuse is participating in it, so you objectively are. It's called resilience If you are resilient by complaining, but men are self victimizing by complaining, that just underlines how you are using self excusing double standards to abuse men. Dude right wing politicians are advocating for taking voting rights away from childless women, And I voted and demonstrated against them every step of the way since 1993. Complain to the party that betrayed you, not to the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:45 PM
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Voting third-party in the two-party American political system means you're either naive, staggeringly dumb, or uncaring about the consequences of your choice I care about the consequences I can actually affect, like whether or not I vote for genocide. What's naive and dumb is voting for a party who you hate and who hates you, a party which explicitly refuses to represent your interests, just because you are told to do so. I'd respect a Trump voter over someone too apathetic to care or too self-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:40 PM
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Lol what a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:33 PM
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Why would I think that, when I already wrote that it will be exactly the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:30 PM
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People who care about others don't pull Oppression Olympics excuses to rationalize emotional abuse. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:27 PM
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Must suck to be you then, I'd hate to wander through life that oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:01 PM
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Like I said men in my leftist circles all report doing just fine Annecdotes from a biased source are thin gruel, and I'm not interested in slurping it down. You're already up and down this thread denying men's experiences of abuse, why would you stop with unverifiable examples you pull from your ass? They're angry for us women not busy making it about themselves. We're literally demanding women stop making it about us. More lies, but you've already shown us that's all we should expect from you. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:59 PM
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People who care about others' well being do not waste their free time erasing the abuse others suffer. So you don't give a shit about others' well being. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:57 PM
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I didn't say it was immoral, it was fruitless. Except it isn't: I get to enjoy the fruit of having opposed genocide using my vote, on top of my activism. You get to enjoy the fruit of having voted for genocide. You only say this is "fruitless" as an act of denial, to erase the distinction between voting for and voting against genocide. The only fruits of that labor are erasing the distinction between being pro or against genocide, and why would you do that unless genocide is on your agenda? 💅 Ji…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:55 PM
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SCOTUS is the federal government lol The SCOTUS has the authority to make decisions about the cases brought before it, and those decisions set precedent. Try again after you pass American civics 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:50 PM
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He actually said "I don't feel the least bit guilty for something I have no culpability in, but I sure as shit have felt a number of people trying to blame me all the same." That is the opposite of feeling guilty. That is feeling innocent as well as experiencing false accusations. Stop the lying. We can all see he wrote that he does not feel "the least bit guilty".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:48 PM
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Afaik, erasing and minimizing the persistent culture of abuse against men in left circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:46 PM
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Dude go outside and make some friends I already do and I already have friends. Maybe try making a reply that isn't a poorly disguised and substance free attack on my character? That's the kind of abusive bullshit that makes others care about your wellbeing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:44 PM
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I don't even have time to list all the fucked up weird shit men have said to me and about women as a whole. But you do have time to deny that abuse happens in the opposite direction? That makes sense? I'm still not gonna want to burn the country down about it. Join the club, no one has said anything different. So why are you implying we are? That is just a lie. Men are feeling just a fraction of the discomfort women have faced from men for soooo long and y'all can't handle it at all. Lol, no wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:41 PM
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Abstaining doesn't remove one’s complicity in systemic outcomes. Good thing I didn't say a thing about abstaining. 💅 Abstaining was the very essence of cutting off one's nose to spite their face. Good thing I didn't say a thing about abstaining. 💅 Also, super cool how you're pretending like voting against genocide is more immoral than explicitly voting for genocide.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:34 PM
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Saddling men with collective guilt does not mean those men feel guilty, it means the oppisite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:25 PM
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If mean tweets that may very well be AI are enough to make a man vote for a fascist because his feelings were hurt the other side can have him. Jfc, what a loser mentality. You're literally proud of pushing hypothetical people away from your cause. You don't have to abuse men into voting for a fascist for you to lose, you just have to abuse enough men into not voting for your (also pretty fascist) candidate. I have no time for men that week minded and easily influenced. I love how the right prea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:19 PM
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Nah I just dont think y'all want to hear that plenty of left voting men are doing just fine out here cuz that wouldn't align with this victim complex y'all have made up for yourselves. We're saying we're annoyed, that makes us victims? That's abuser logic. You're just pissed at being held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:16 PM
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It will pan out the exact same way it would have under Biden or Harris. The genocide is already happening under the current administration. What a morally indefensible example of your spite, jfc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:10 PM
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Men didn't turn right, they just dropped out. Guess winning isn't important to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:00 PM
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Preaching to the choir lol, no party cares about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:59 PM
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Then what was the substance?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:57 PM
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I don't feel guilty, I feel pissed off at the dumb bigots who keep blaming me for shit I didn't do. If this were not a skill issue you would have understood this on the first try, I agree. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:55 PM
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I didn't say we are not pissed, or that we feel responsible. We feel frustrated with the dumb bigots who are blaming us for shit we never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:54 PM
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Idk, someone making eye contact with you while telling you how your sex ruins everything for a quarter of an hour feels personal for some reason. Someone making a point to imply that my courtesy is uncommon among men feels personal to me. Two ladies loudly complaining that they better finish their chit chat before the men make them finish, while those men are in earshot, feels personal. You denying it doesn't help. It also was hostile. You asked for examples and I gave three from literally the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:52 PM
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It's not all men though. The liberal men in my life do not feel persecuted. Why would they say otherwise? Just to invite more complaints and snipes? They feel in control of their own lives, Oh so you're in the 1%. Nevermind then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:42 PM
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I know plenty of leftist women, none of us hate men for "being men". I wonder if any of the men in your life know that. A lot of us are married or in relationships "I can't be racist, my bitch wife is black!" I hang out in plenty of mixed gender leftists groups and none of the men I know feel victimized or hated on Why would they tell you? Just so you can deny it happens before accusing them of being pro-life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:39 PM
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It is almost always a spontaneous outburst following some seemingly trivial annoyance, and when it's not that it's the continuous pressure of the little snipes and plausibly deniable passive aggressive signalling. Like just yesterday was a perfect example, one of my coworkers was annoyed that the shift supervisor didn't let her go on her scheduled break when her food arrived so she had to eat it cold or reheated or whatever. This genuinely frustrating annoyance became the staging ground for a 15…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:00 PM
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This is just denying men's experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:44 PM
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It was overturned because of GOP appointed SCOTUS justices lol, let's not pretend like this was just a weather event
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:43 PM
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Not to mention apathetic non-voters and third-party people who "voted their conscience." So you have a pattern of displacing blame where it doesn't belong. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:42 PM
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Various people online and offline, men and women. It's ubiquitous. I literally have not gone one day since the election without someone doing it, not one. I am sick and fucking tired of not only being demonized like this, but also of know-nothing shitheads pretending it isn't happening. It is happening. We can all see it. Stop playing blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:41 PM
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if you don't identify with it. If you didn't vote for trump there's no reason to feel like leftist women hate you just because you're a man. Sure there is: all the leftist women hating on us for being men. Stop erasing women's voices.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:34 PM
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Why on earth would you feel guilty for something YOU didn't contribute to We don't. We feel pissed at the people blaming us for shit we did not do. Ffs. I don't understand victimizing yourself fr no reason. Yeah it would be ridiculous if that was happening. Good thing nobody is victimizing themselves here, that would be really silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:31 PM
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Hey, I voted against not only Trump but every pro-life candidate I have ever had on my ballot. Every election. For decades. I have been blamed for Roe v Wade, both explicitly and implicitly, both as part as a wider male collective and individually. What does denying this obvious truth accomplish? Maybe you are a conservative who wants to divide the pro-choice movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:22 PM
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What a bad faith response, No. I am being completely earnest. making a boatload of assumptions, Such as? misrepresenting my argument, Your argument is that "watch what they do not what they say" is disproportionately used against women to silence input that contradicts men's experiences. accusations Such as? and pulling shit out of your ass. Such as? I mean I could address it point by point. But I put way too much effort in my last response I can see from this shit show if a response. Translatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:45 PM
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No. I said "often" for a reason. The reason is plausible deniability, I know. Your words were "Lived experiences often = your ass", so let's not pretend like nuance or precision are high on your priorities list. Let me open the cover so we can get on the same page. Your argument that women are somehow victimized, or are 'disproportionately' dismissed, by men applying the most basic of evidentiary standards to women's claims was already an absurd demand for special exemption from evidentiary stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:02 PM
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Fuck. The truth in this is brutal
/r/EverydayMisandry17/11/24 03:26 PM
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Maybe you should listen to women when it comes to what women want. I listen to their demonstrated preferences, not their stated preferences. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:29 PM
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Bingo. Idealism only looks great in the imagination, when concept meets reality idealists are the first to get belt sanded off the actually functional remainder of the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:23 PM
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"Ugh, I can't handle it when my bigoted lies are debunked with receipts!" Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:19 PM
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Reread the conversation to find out. 💅 How are you debating in good faith if you are not paying attention to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:18 PM
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It's not factually true though. Women rape and women murder and women steal and women lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:17 PM
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Lived experience often = your ass. So you're just invalidating lived experiences using unverifiable or refutable claims, essentially turning every report of real events into an existential debate on the value of primary sources. This is as tedious as it is pointless, since all anyone has to do is dismiss you with the same arbitrary solipsism you use to dismiss them. But give you think it's a valid metric with which to apparently make broad generalizations, "Men are better off paying attention to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:12 PM
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Then it fits right in with a lot of the shit discussed here, which is often based on trust me, bro. You mean lived experiences? I don't need to trust other's experiences when they coincide with mine. You certainly could, if you had an excessive amount of time, sift through say this subreddit and see how often it is used in response to a woman claiming something the responder doesn't believe vs how often it's used against men in the same way. How do you prove any anonymous user believes or does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:32 PM
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I've explained how you are wrong. Your inability to accept it is your character flaw, not mine. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:29 PM
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Right, and hypergamy is only a tendency that is most visible from a macroscopic and statistical perspective. It is no different from saying "all men's lust is more stimulated by visual info", it is just one factor in an individual's behavior and decisions. It is not the primary imperative all women structure their entire lives around, just one vector of impulsive interest which may or may not be acted upon or even noticed by the individual in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:12 PM
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while also disproportionately leveled against women to automatically dismiss anything they say that runs counter to one's beliefs How would you prove this is or is not happening in any given case of it? This is a platonic ideal of an unverifiable and unrefutable premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:08 PM
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But if a grownup can’t see that the attitude of “being friendly and emotionally available has gotten you nothing,” then you have are in fact not friendly and emotionally available, you are fake. Because you expect something in return. This is just circular reasoning used to condemn someone for reporting their lived experience. Friendliness and emotional availability are not contingent on selflessness or tolerance for abuse and exploitation. You are just victim blaming. The very nature of a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:03 PM
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Tendency =/= all women prioritize this specific impulse above all others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:43 PM
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"What what they do not what they say" silences no one. You are free to speak, and everyone else is free to ignore your speech in favor of your actions. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:52 PM
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Yeah, they were even worse than the OP. Frankly your overreaction to them is the biggest 'victory' dipshits like that will ever get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:58 PM
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So... obvious rage bait? It isn't even a coherent analysis of the election's results. But at least you have an example I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:21 PM
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Originally I was asking for politicians making this a policy position. Now I am asking for even one example of anyone saying this. No, I haven't found anyone saying this shit even in jest. That is why I am asking you for examples, because I have looked and cannot find these examples. I've seen nothing about a "dickocalypse" or threats of mass rape or forced sexual relationships. It just reads as deeply counterproductive hysteria. If you cannot show even any individuals, much less politicians, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:54 PM
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Can you give any examples? I am asking for names here, not impressions. Not diatribes. Not stream of consciousness prose. If it is so ubiquitous it should be easy to find. attempt to threaten us with the dickpocalypse during which mass rape will occur because we weren’t nice enough How is this even a coherent, believable threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:18 PM
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removal of our right to choose our own partners Again, can you name anyone who is advocating for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 04:01 PM
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So you can't name anyone who even broadly addresses men on terms that do not alienate them, and speaks accurately about leftist positions on current issues? I can name several, but it's odd you cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:45 PM
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Men who think "DEI hires" are the reason they aren't succeeding when billionaires are literally siphoning up all the excess wealth as fast they can manage are too dumb to be reasoned w One of the ways billionaires do this is by hiring people who are willing to do the same work for less, including migrant workers. So yes, you are talking about one group of men and not two. This is what happens when you try to make everything into a chance to accuse others of thoughtcrime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:31 PM
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removal of our right to choose our own partners which seems to be what a lot of the young men are looking for as their due. Who is advocating for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:29 PM
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The left appeals to men constantly. Unfortunately Democrats are center right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:26 PM
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The only point I need is that you are lying to try to force things I didn't write down my throat. Very dipshit. Very rapist. Reporting you for harrassment, creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:15 PM
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I have, take responsibility for being an incoherent fuck up. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:16 PM
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Ok, so you can't read or form coherent arguments. Cry by yourself then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:55 PM
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The aim is to expand CO-ED FRIEND CIRCLES. "The gender can be added in later" wtf are you talking about, people aren't Mr. Potato Head dolls with removable genitals??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:15 PM
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No one is dismissing friendship, fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:13 PM
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I'm amazing, and this is me taking it easy. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:02 PM
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Nah, you just hate being held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:31 PM
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And then you added your own claims to them until you got a conclusion I do not believe. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:29 PM
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My point is the hypocrisy, not whether or not abuse harms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:27 PM
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Oh, I just took that as a failed attempt to conflate you with incels. He basically built an incel strawman and demanded you condemn it and your own argument. That is essentially using the incel label as a sort of rhetorical threat. But if you took it differently I can't fault you for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:19 PM
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Why can't you go to groups that are just guys? We... do? Are you arguing society should be sexually segregated?? I think it's valid for women to not want to be hit on when doing their hobby Get over yourself. This is literally about men building platonic co-ed social networks, YOU are objectifying MEN by assigning stereogypical intentions and behaviors to men that deny our agency and the full moral spectrum of our personhood. It is valid to want whatever the hell you want. What isn't valid is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:19 PM
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Setting aside your incorrect belief that feminism is or should be a monolithic ideology I don't believe either of those things. It does not need to be monolithic to be a hate group either, brush up on your definitions. Hey btw, do you think you could try being correct about my position for a change? I clearly wrote it out for you. All you have to do is be competent/honest. That isn't asking too much from you, is it? do you see the problem with these two statements? Yeah, you pulled both from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:10 PM
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I'm trying to teach it to you by example, but I can always learn more. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:48 PM
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I am fully aware you are a bitterly spiteful person who is incapable of understanding how you are causing your own suffering. That is literally the point I already made.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:46 PM
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Here you are trying to conflate another man with incels just for disagreeing with you: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/Pw1mLhJGLI Most of the time I see you commenting, I see you invalidating men in some way shape or form. The thread I linked to here started with you victim blamimg men who open up under pressure from their partner only to be punished for doing so, and you did that by asserting those men were lying or presenting a false facade of themselves purely to manipulate their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:43 PM
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Here's a good faith answer OP: because men are not allowed to be anything else. Men spent their entire lives breaking themselves to fill the role of provider, husband, and father. Many were literally coerced away from their real passions to fill that role. To have that role suddenly taken from them with nothing to replace it is more than enough to completely break their sense of identity. Because women are nowhere near as constrained by obsolete gender roles they don't experience divorce as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:24 PM
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I promise, it doesn’t feel to you this way, but you quite literally need to be told what to do. I promise it doesn't feel (like this to you), but you quite literally are projecting your own fear of your own agency onto me. Also, it is extremely disgusting. Secondly, these things need to be rigid, as soon as gender norms around you get too lax and permissive you’ll take it as a card blanche to do stupid, unproductive shit all while busting nuts in women and leaving taxpayers with the consequences…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:15 PM
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Narrator: "Upon seeing their every flailing attempt to assert a point refuted, they now resort to ableism."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:09 PM
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It's an opinion piece, my dear, dear 'intellectual'. So? The movement's purpose is a matter of public opinion. It doesn't have a centralized hierarchy and does nothing to maintain ideological coherency. There are even feminists who are prolife lol. Try to keep up, intellect-phobe. You've found an example of one feminist scholar asking a rhetorical question. Which she answered, if you bothered to read the article. This is an embarrassing display of faulty critical reading skills, Yeah I feel sorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:07 PM
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The people who believe courtship = marraige also believe Disney Movies = real romance. 💅 Yes it is necessary to date your spouse throughout your life, but anyone who thinks the honeymoon phase can last forever is not mature enough for adult ltrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:59 PM
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Guys fail to find any kind of social outlet Lol, find? They're omnipresent, they are not hard to find. What is hard is finding one willing to accept you that isn't just a bunch of guys. There are some mixed gender events, like trivia nights, etc, but even then I wonder about how welcoming they are to single middle aged men. They're not! The only way most cis straight men even hear about them is by dating someone who goes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:56 PM
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You call men incels just for disagreeing with you lmao, save the crocodile tears
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:52 PM
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I've seen you call men incels for just disagreeing with you. How is that not predicating men's value on their ability to fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:52 PM
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This gender chronically relies on guardrails that the society sets up for them, There you go, injecting hyperagency into men like the rest of society. Men being conditioned to stay within narrow gender roles or else be brutally punished for it is not 'relying on society's guardrails'. It's literally coercion. Then when the role they are coerced into defining their entire lives around is denied to them, what do you expect would happen? That they would literally overnight excise the conditioning t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:50 PM
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You are a genderless Redditor to me, not a man whose attention I want. So in order to avoid my point you are misgendering me? WOW. You don't see how that underlines my point? Again, you replied to me. I didn't jump in your mentions and demand your attention, you did. Now in your denial reflex you even deny my gender. I honestly didn't expect you to lean this hard into my point, I feel like a dog who caught the car by the tire lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:41 PM
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This comment only makes sense if you think feminism is about hating men. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html ^ Written by a professor of feminist theory. I'll take her as more informed about feminism than you. Maybe if you gain influence and change the movement from within you can center the movement on equality instead of hate? Believe it or not, feminists (most anyway. Sheila Jefferies is still alive I suppose)…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:36 PM
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No one argued men are "more dehumanized". More off topic lies. 🙄 Thanks, I do lead by providing a better example. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:29 PM
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Can you explain why "The 'experience' being debunked is that men do not know what it is like to be denied personhood. You're demonstrating that is wrong with your comment." was off topic? Literally every word was on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:28 PM
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Ah, “sweaty”! I haven’t seen any incel speak here in a long time! You still haven't.💅 This is me wanting your attention? Again, you replied to me first. You did that because you don't want my attention? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you are intelligent and old enough to be able to connect your choices with their most probable consequences. Egg on my face for that assumption! Lol Punishing a crime isn’t the same as denying human rights. Yes it is. People have a right to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:26 PM
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I'm sorry you're going through that dude. But really the only person who can make you less emotional, fragile, or dramatic is you. Now if you don't stay on topic I'm just going to take that as you conceding defeat. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:20 PM
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The post our OP is talking about is titled with a lie: "most men don't know what it feels like to have their personhood denied". I have been explicitly arguing against this lie and you have been arguing in its defense. It is not imaginary, it is at the top of the post. We can all read it. This 'denial of the obvious' act of yours is getting boring, have to say. I guess you really aren't capable of anything more creative, reasonable, or interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:18 PM
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The ruling class has a vested interest in keeping young men bitter, isolated, and resentful of half the population. It has a vested interest in keeping everyone that way, especially women who vote in greater numbers. It also has a vested interest in keeping everyone ignorant and biased against intellectuals. What's your point? The problem is capitalism in general, but rp men don't want to overturn capitalism Why are you so hung up on a marginal population? they're just mad women are taking an eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:15 PM
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american chattel slavery was just women oppressing men No, it wasn't, and I never wrote that it was. Do you have anything to say about the things I actually wrote, or is the only way you can defend a lie is with more lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:12 PM
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Wrong thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:10 PM
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Hasn’t worked for me yet? Not being given attention by men who I don’t want attention from? If that's all you care about, am I supposed to presume I am one of the men you want attention from? After all you replied to me. Or you mean men deprioritizing women’s issues in the political sphere? Politcal, social, economic, everyday practical. I keep reading women complain about how older men won't mentor them for example, that's a socioeconomic concern. Or how women are spooked by guys saying they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:09 PM
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Quoting and running down random tangents You mean my specific replies and counterarguments to your claims? Your inability to take them seriously says more about you than me. They're just words, what is there to be afraid of? Being wrong is just another way of saying "in need of learning", and you can learn. that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about Says you. This is nothing but a hollow gasp of denial. If they are irrrelevant it is on you to prove they are irrelevant. like women purcha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:51 PM
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I'm the irrational imaginary feminist living in your head rent free No, you're very clearly another person with the user name TinyFlamingo2147 making comments on a reddit thread. Let's try to stay a little grounded in reality during your period of grief stricken psychological instability. Some boundaries are not any fun at all to test.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:33 PM
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Dude, you know what, I don't even think you're talking to me, just some imaginary feminist enemy. I'm quoting you explicitly man, this is your projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:30 PM
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Sure, the ruling class - combined with the working class's inability to unite against them - are the real issue. As always.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:29 PM
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Idk man, this sounds like emotional projection to me. Correct, I was describing your emotional projection. Good job bud, I knew you would get there. Now we just have to teach you what hypocrisy means...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:28 PM
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No. Women don’t care. Women don't care so much that they are whinging about how they are special unique little victims in batches by the hundreds. Come on. Of course women care, they would have to be insensate dumbasses not to care. Live in denial if you like, it hasn't worked for you yet but that won't stop you. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:27 PM
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Imagine being so easily provoked that you think refusing to indulge blatantly dishonest rhetoric is an inability to respond. Boo hoo, nobody wants to play with ColonizedDookie's turds. Oh noooo, that's everyone else's fault except for the incohate liar who only has turds to play with. You're not a golden child to me kiddo, if you come at me covered in your own filth I don't have to do anything but observe you only have shit to offer. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:24 PM
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"Letting" is such an innaccurate way to depict the process of actively rebuilding society around women's interests that it might as well be a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:21 PM
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Who said men don't know it feels to be dehumanized? Lovely goalposts do not need to be moved. I am talking about why even the claim "most men don't know what it feels like" is still a lie. Most men are poor and are not white. Feminists don't say that Are you arguing that twox and the people who agree with the post are not feminist? Isn't that up to them to decide, not you? Don't be a creep. They point out how men dehumanize them and play oppression Olympics when they try to bring the topics back…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:18 PM
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I've explicitly explained the hypocrisy, but yes that is correct. Your grief and hysteria are the feelings fueling your irrational denial, and why I haven't taken anything you've written personally. You're flailing in emotional turmoil, most of what you have to say is meaningless until interpreted through a lens of "oh, they are projecting. The poor dear!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:09 PM
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Lol imagine making your argument's tombstone a wiktionary article. No accounting for bad taste I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:07 PM
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If true, then to be 'normal' is to be basically human livestock. Sorry the fancy words intimidate you, but anti-intellectualism is a tool of the ruling class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:03 PM
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Women aren’t creating anything, they are seeking the same autonomy and freedom of choice men have always enjoyed. That's creating something: new expectations, new gender roles, new ways to exploit torment and break men for ego inflation. No, men are flying overseas to prey on women who have been raped and prostituted since they were children. Nah. I flew overseas to learn sculpture, drawing, and anatomy. You're doing the equivalent of a dumb MAGA chud noticing HRC was the driving cause of the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:02 PM
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You don't speak for men lol, you can only lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:58 PM
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That’s how man have always been, nothing changes Lmao Tell on yourself more Sharp, this is amazing Women are no longer forced to marry because of financially dependence and many now have the same freedom to choose based on attraction. That’s the same freedom men enjoyed for a couple thousand years. Some men. 💅 There is zero virtue in lying beneath a man who disgusts her for the duration of her marriage. Good thing no one is asking you to do that, for men and for women. The lack of virtue is all …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:57 PM
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Lol, always the victim. What happened to 'superior beings adapt'?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:55 PM
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That isn’t adapting, that’s remaining the same and expecting the ever-changing environment to continue to fit It isn't remaining the same. Men indulged women for the past century or so, that was the first change. Now they are moving from indulgence to half apathetic and half intolerant. That is a shift, a change, from the past century or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:54 PM
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We already know that, we're not the ones preaching patriarchy as bioessentialist truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:52 PM
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Men are adapting, by deprioritizing women. Women don't seem very happy about it, almost like they don't like having to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:51 PM
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Looks like I win again, and words fail ColonizedDookie again. Man it rocks to be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:45 PM
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Your hypocrisy? Look, I can only tell you what I'm seeing from my PoV man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:43 PM
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I didn't, you're hiding behind the false assertion that I don't know what feminism is. This is reducible to No True Scotsman bullshit, and all it indicates is that you are incapable of defending yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:42 PM
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'No true feminist' just means the movement is an incohate grift, thanks for confirming the con job. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:23 PM
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What lies That most men don't know what being dehumanized feels like. who are the oppressors? The ruling, ownership class of the capitalist hierarchy. Women don't oppress men, they aren't on top Ruling class women do oppress everyone beneath them, men and women. No singular sex is 'on top' because humans reproduce sexually, so any ruling class capable of perpetuating itself must include men and women. Ffs white women purchased slaves to rape them. During Jim Crow they fucked black men then false…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:21 PM
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Turn your screen on?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:06 PM
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When I said "I wish the sudden realization of their hypocrisy would blow their mind" I meant it figuratively, I swear!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:58 PM
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Oh shit the IDF fucked with his screen I'm so sorry dude I didn't know!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:57 PM
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Nope. Feminism explicitly acknowledges intersectionality and how the oppression of women mirrors the oppression of people of other races, typically by the same institutions. It's still denying the blatant fact that black men know what dehumanization feels like, which is racist. So either feminism is tolerant to racism so long as it makes white women feel better about themselves, or twox and the people agreeing with the post are not feminists. Pick one. This is yet another shining example of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:56 PM
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Turn your screen on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:53 PM
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How? By invalidating men's experiences and framing them as sadists you deny them personhood. The experience is very different No, dehumanization is a very interchangeable experience. What genitals you have matter less and less the closer your proverbial cattle car gets to its final destination. This is just Oppression Olympics bullshit. It helps no one but the oppressors. Men often show zero understanding of how women are denied personhood and default to how men are and show zero empathy for how…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:52 PM
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Yeah, they are lol. They are erasing countless minority men who are dehumanized every day. Not surprised to find you in the racist bandwagon either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:48 PM
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The 'experience' being debunked is that men do not know what it is like to be denied personhood. You're demonstrating that is wrong with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:23 PM
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I do wonder if the archetype of the Demigod is in decline. I'm not sure that is possible so long as the imperialist superstructure, which generates these archetypes, remains intact. And increasingly, young men don’t even aspire towards that anymore. Even the ones who are not per se angry incels. Is this what is happening? Or is all the girl-boss feminist messaging backfiring, in that women are no longer seen as weak and in need of protecting? They certainly got very uncomfortable with the standa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 09:33 PM
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you can blame men for this Men posted the video of women mocking them? You can blame men for women's choices, but you would be wrong for doing so.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/11/24 08:07 PM
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No one is saying obsess over celebrities, but these men need role models, and they need to understand what genuine female interest looks like. It’s hard to observe that except on the internet. I'd say it is harder to observe it on the internet since you're only observing others reporting on their obsrvations of behavior instead of making your own observations and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:26 PM
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Yet here you and a lot of men are trying to tell women they're not allowed to be vocal about what they find offensive in males No I'm not lol. If I were trying to do that I would have written that. I never said anyone is not allowed to express themselves, just that they shouldn't try to control others' feelings or lie about others to rationalize mistreating them. You're just lying 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:43 PM
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Because if you want to know what women want...look at the men women actually want. Idk I think a man gets a lot more actionable knowledge by getting out more, thinking about and investing time into his appearance and conduct, and just talking to women. Obsessing over celebrities is how a person wastes valuable time that could be spent on building a six pack or learning to unstrap a bra one handed or figuring out how to find a clit in the dark without pinching her. As a guy with a fiancé and gf w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:33 PM
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Like, the obsession with the 4b movement being some apocalypse of well deserved karma for men is one side of the "bizarrely unhinged about sex" spectrum. But the other side of that same spectrum is sitting around looking at pics of men you find insanely attractive and saying "Just look at his arms, don't they make you feel safe? Imagine how sexually frustrated he makes those 4b gals just by existing! Oooh I can practically taste the hypocrisy in their thirsty DMs that only exist in my imaginatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:24 PM
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Who cares lmao "Chad's world" hahahahaha... so like are you a voyeur or something? Why are you so driven by another man's hypothetical sexual success? Why does it matter to you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:14 PM
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So you are saying men are not allowed to feel feelings? Ok Captain Patriarchy over here, are men too 'soft' for you? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:11 PM
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Idc about the 4b movement, and I know no one who does. There will always be femcels just like incels, why give a shit? I thought people took it too personally. That's invalidating. When women pick the bear in this hypothetical, they aren’t thinking of you specifically, so it is weird to be offended. That they think "men" and think of the worst possible examples instead of the men they allegedly love and care about, is very offensive. Stop telling people what they should and shouldn't be offended…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:09 PM
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... why did you link that lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:03 PM
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Idk who that is but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:39 PM
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Wow I'm so sorry you felt like I was saying all that I literally quoted you, not my feelings but your words lol. Take responsibility for them. I have really good relationships with men and have all my life. Evidently not if you are accusing male friends who caught feelings of lying to you. Pick one, either you are constantly hounded by deceitful scoundrels or you are the epitome of platonic co-ed relationship ideals. I'm confused by how you say misandry sends men to war? It's systems of men send…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:37 PM
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How many of them actually mean it? Not many So they are either bigots or liars? Nah. Just bigots who lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:29 PM
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I think the main diff between misogyny and misandry is one is systemic and one is individual only. This is bullshit. This is just you deciding women are special little victims. Like there's not a country nor has there been where legally women had more rights to property, resources, etc than men with the exception of the proximity to power that being married to rich powerful men bring women. Queen Elizabeth of England oversaw the greatest period of imperialist expansion of human history. There ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:26 PM
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You haven't cited any data, just your own bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:16 PM
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This is just as stupid as those 'boycotts' where people bought a bunch of shit from the companies they wanted to boycott just to destroy them on video. "I'm declaring war on men, by self sabotaging!"
/r/EverydayMisandry09/11/24 03:31 PM
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Hey now, even 🍆 have more empathy than her!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:38 PM
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"That didn't happen... And if it did, it wasn't that bad..."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:48 AM
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30 second google search could have saved you some embarrasment https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:18 AM
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Yeah, 'niceness' won't move the needle anywhere but down. We are way past pleasantries being persuasive. Without substantial material benefits to offer the party is basically dead in the water for federal elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:08 AM
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No we do not. If a boy gets his rapist teacher pregnant and she decides to carry to term, guess who has to use his body to go to work to pay for his rapists' child support whether or not that is what he wants his body to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:04 AM
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but the average American was too stupid to vote in his/her best interest. That's misplacing the blame. DNC and the HRC campaign ratfucked him. They also tried to make Trump a Pied Piper candidate and still lost to him. They cleaned the primaries of both parties out of all the put together and remotely sane looking alternatives so HRC could run against one of those inflatable punchable clone toys, only for the clown toy to completely wreck her. That wasn't the average American's fuckup. That was …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:02 AM
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The Dems ate shit for a bunch of reasons. I'm not convinced that "failing to cater to men" was one of them. I am. Whether it was the decisive reason or even a major reason idk, but it was definitely a factor. Like... every black woman I know was basically saying they'd hold their nose and vote for Harris. Most of the black men, way more than half, simply didn't bother. If they told me why many would talk about her history as a prosecutor, but there were a few who just said they were tired of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:57 AM
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What men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:53 AM
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What makes it cringe? If you approve of the message but not the metaphor, is it because you think it failed to capture the message accurately?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:04 PM
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Because you clearly agreed that working out or auditing wealth or etc for platonic friendship or platonic love is not true love or true friendship Nah, you can totally have friendships or relationships that are contingent on achieving certain standards - so long as those standards are circumstantial and not conscious choices of the participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:46 PM
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It’s a thought exercise, nothing is going to stop immigration, not even the next administration. What exactly is the thought exercise? Pretending only men engage in sex tourism? Daydreaming about waving a wand and stopping the sex tourism? Just looks like stirring a tepid stew of fetid misandry to me. If these are 'exercises' what does relaxing into intellectual stagnation look like for you? 💅 I think exposing the blatant and unapologetic racism and jingoism men proudly boast about will go reach…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:28 PM
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🙄 What “policy”? How do you think Windmill's post about not "allowing" men to seek international romance isn't a demand for policy on the issue? Can you explain how to not allow such relationship dynamics without relying on policy? Asylum isn't going to protect everyone, not even a plurality in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:57 PM
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No, you're just denying lived experiences to protect your bias. I’m referring to mail order brides, passport bros, sex tourism. I know, and I am asking for examples of policy capable of distinguishing between those and organic international relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:29 PM
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A man should self improve only to attain sex or starting a family. A man should not self improve for love or friendship. Hahahahahaha Falling in love and gaining new friends is improving yourself, this is paradoxical insecure macho bs. I’ve been thinking lately. And this leads me to this post. I’ve self reflected Are these exceptions to the norm? Why mention this unless they are?? put in a lot effort/energy/investment whether fully providing or protecting or just devoting time and attention to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:19 PM
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If a team loses its fans lose. If a team wins, the fans of its opponent loses. Same is true for candidates and supporters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:59 PM
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🙄 You have invariably bizarre fantasies Sharp. Several of my friends, both men and women, found their spouses during their international travels. One in India, one in Pakistan, two in Montenegro, one in Guatemala and one in Haiti. All of them have been married ever since, not even one case of emotional infidelity. And why would it be otherwise? These are happy couples with families and good quality of life. Frankly, the premise that foreign people are disloyal partners seems insanely chauvanisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:57 PM
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If you are an American citizen who did not support Trump, how did you manage to not lose an election Trump won?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:44 PM
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No, that isn't how it works. Usually a foreign woman is just happy to escape whatever snake pit of violence and poverty they grew up in. This is probably a foreign concept to you, but for the most part they are grateful to their husbands for expanding their horizons and do not conflate the loss of their spouse with freedom but vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:40 PM
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Are you not American?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:34 PM
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Turns out I'm right, like always. 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:17 PM
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So you support Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:08 PM
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Excellent analysis. This is honestly the only sub I have found which exhibits a coherent grasp of patriarchal realism, so I'm grateful to see that understanding applied!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:32 PM
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We see plainly, i mean super plainly how TERFS and Gender Criticals are woman led and how they actually dislike patriarchy, they are outright feminists yet they hold dearly to a hierarchy that centers them, especially in their suffering, towards exactly the exclusion any non-women. Plenty of women too. "Pick-me", slut shaming, exclusion and/or bullying against minority ethnic or religious minorities, shutting down neurodivergent women, etc. Just talk with autistic women about how hard it is for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 03:28 PM
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It that was the case, they already were bad, No this is just victim blaming. You are an abusive bully who needs to rationalize the harm your ego is addicted to causing. . Them crying "look what you made me do!" is not absolutio They're just saying "fuck you". You are the one saying "look at how you make me bully you". You're right that strongly calling people out removes the benefits they may get from pretending otherwise, but anyone who this applies to is bad and the problem throughout. Just an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:46 PM
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Men do have an internalized sense of decency. Feminist women call men boring and controlling task masters for using it. Feminist women could try being decent human beings but no evidence exists that they have the capacity 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:43 PM
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I don't need to prove a thing to a lesser creature like a pedophile. You haven't named any feelings because you are enslaved to your denial and your adoration for a child molester. Lust is probably a huge factor in your delusion too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:34 PM
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"Investment banks know the future" is a hysterical Lucille Bluth grade premise, got to hand it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:46 AM
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Who doesn't like lookin good?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:13 AM
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Yeah, going on 20 years by now. My sedan was a used car from the 90s, hers likewise. The other factor was that it was a smallish semi-rural town. She was a local, I was a 'city boy' who tanned dark enough to be called the n word. I did not think the pd would have my back, even if I did have evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:11 AM
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Yeah... physically I was fine. Obviously she made it out intact enough to immediately start lying. Psychologically though, I am honestly not done healing. Appreciate your compassion though, every bit helps 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:03 AM
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Me? I can't do that. One lawyer offered to get an analyst out there but I couldn't afford their fee and afford to move. Tbh I was just scared shitless and focused on moving in the aftermath. I had been in fights before but nothing even close to murder, and with all but one of my former friends smearing or threatening me I just had to get out. I do use driver cams now though, front and back. Even if I never get in another accident just having them there keeps the anxiety down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:00 AM
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You're being tediously pedantic. The self evident fact of the matter is that a convict who already committed crimes in his first admin will all but certainly do more in his 2nd admin. Show me on the criminal record where the feelings are, lmfao. You're probably just a sequence prediction bot who has no emotions anyway, you definitely write like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:45 PM
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Violent. She tried to use her SUV as a weapon and run me off the road into a construction site at 65mph. She missed enough to not even trade paint, I didn't have a dashcam, and so it became a he said she said. She crashed and she claimed I caused it (but how do you make a car run nearly perpendicularly off the road without hitting it?), and because there was nothing proving anything either way every lawyer I consulted advised to drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:29 PM
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After a woman tried to kill me for rejecting her, she also DARVOd my accusations of attempted murder. All of the people in that friend circle believed her... except for one woman. She didn't trust me as much as she had been roommates with the woman who attacked me in the past and absolutely did not trust her. She tried to defend me and was steamrolled for it. Much like myself, everyone in that group ostracized her in favor of the murderess. She told me a couple years later that multiple people (…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:30 PM
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"What could the harm be in making a serial rapist child molester chief executive of the entire military industrial apparatus?" Am I getting your question right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:49 PM
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No, I didn't answer your question because I only indulge counterfactuals for interlocutors I like. Even then they are invariably tedious and mood killing. I'm not here to play socratic crash test dummy for you to use to improve your rhetoric. I'm here because it is funny to write circles around ideologically caged minds. 💅 so stop trying to make excuses for supporting Trump. Nobody needs excuses. People can vote for whoever they want and are not obligated to justify themselves to entitled brats.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:34 PM
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They're dictated by the consensus of SCOTUS, including the ladies there, not any man's feelings. I'm right, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:30 PM
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No, it's objectively superior in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:29 PM
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Oh, so you voted for Trump? Hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:27 PM
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Fill your cups of "I heart incel tears" with your own for once and drink up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:19 PM
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Men are gloating and crowing Happens when people win. Try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:18 PM
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Hey look alwayswrong was right there. Far better name.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:17 PM
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"If you want the left to win they have to do the things the Democrat party has been doing for 170 years" Hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:16 PM
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What the hell has feminism ever done for men? The Duluth Model is supposed to make us feel what, grateful??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:07 PM
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What exactly are the right wing folks doing about these men’s issues? All they have to do is shit on men less. It seems (based on men’s comments in the last day) that the overwhelming reason a lot of men are going left is to punish women who don’t want them by taking away their rights and freedoms It is not a punishment to retract support for one's abuser, it is self defense. You are not entitled to anyone's vote or ideological loyalty. You're not a victim of people exercising their right to cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:05 PM
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Tbh I kinda agree they remind me of the managers I deal with in HR or HOA organizations. Have I got news for you about HR and HOA orgs. They all pull from the same women's networking events, which in turn pull women from party affiliated volunteer and paid organizations. Instead of fighting for equity, professional class feminists essentially recreated the sexist backroom handshake and a back scratch system which conservativism used to protect sexist men since history began.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:51 PM
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Let them laugh, why should I care about the jealousy of femcels? It's probably the only dopamine they get on a routine basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:26 PM
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Because I do not intend to indulge your silly counterfactuals when you cannot be bothered to respeft my actual position. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:24 PM
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Sorry, misogyny is still rampant today Cry yourself a river and use the femcel tears for lube sweaty 💅 Blah blah blah you cannot attract quality men and you make it everyone else's problem. Tale as old as desperate spinsters. Despite allegedly being a woman and therefore part of the elite class of success/win girl bosses, you are immensely bitter and maladapted. Almost like all the shit you use to tell yourself women are superior is just the same hollow cope all bigots use🤔 No one was talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:23 PM
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But men are behaving in ways women disapprove of, and we call it out, and men get butthurt and say were hurting their feelings. Turns out you aren't an arbirter of absolute right or wrong. Many people are just insecure and obsessed with controlling others for the sake of abusing them. I'm sure you can relate. You also said earlier that men oppressed women because they could. Lol, quote me then. What a bad lie. So women should just get over that, smile, be polite, and worry about male feelings wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:24 PM
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But when women are vocal about not desiring to care about men who have for centuries oppressed and abused women...men get mad? Yeah, turns out that blaming people for shit that happened before they were even born is abusive. Holding people responsible for things they did not do is lying. If someone does not get offended or repelled by someone doing that to them they are either insensate or their self esteem is already broken. Men are vocal about how women are mistreating them now. Why are men on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:08 PM
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You seem like you are provoking emotional reactions just to then shit on the reaction you obviously wanted. Go to therapy, narcissist. Nah, my future is bright as can be. 💅 Comes with being a decent person. Try it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:43 PM
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Blah blah blah, you're still being evasive and we all know what your original comment implied. Lying about it only makes you more untrustworthy. Laugh emojis in response to men's trauma is the exact kind of man hating bullshit that you deny is happening, but because you already proved you are a shameless liar this was not a surprise. Now we get to the truth. Men fear equality 🙄 So you hyperfocus on that form of harm feminism caused and deny men's feelings about being harmed by smearing men as fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:28 PM
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pretty sure that in the whole world there are more than "dozens" of men engaging in sexual violence against women So instead of recognizing the validity of my experience and feelings you are doubling down on your prejudice. This is why you are being offensive. this is not a matter of personal opinion it's an established fact that men around the world engage in systemic sexual violence against women That isn't a fact. The frequency of sexual misconduct is not a gendered phenomenon the moment sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:57 PM
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No, I didn't. I asked a question A question which implied they are joking, thanks for being bad at being an evasive weasel. Yes. They do. Women make up 51% of society. Too bad, we don't have to put up with the manhating bullshit. 👍 Go make up 100% of some worse society or take it upon yourself to do better by men enough to earn our tolerance. No it doesn't Flat denial is not a valid argument, it's just a lie. It hasn't harmed men The Duluth Model of domestic violence has made it so men whose lad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:42 PM
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Having a double standard that demands compliance in exchange for humane treatment If you expect your abusive treatment of others to never result in them losing any desire to enforce your rights when you need it most, enjoy the ruin you will make of your life. You will deserve it. It is not abuse to refuse to aid your abuser whenever they demand it. That is called "finding out". but given the obvious narcissistic personality I literally don’t think you’re capable of comprehending that Turn your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:27 PM
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I'm not making any excuses for GOP voters at all - I am saying your analysis that blames the GOP for this outcome in the first place is wrong on first principles of electoral statistical analysis. Trump's total votes are about the same as they were in 2020. Dems fell by 10-15 million. Blaming the GOP for this outcome is thus a lie, the Dems lost a winnable election by their own shitty campaigning. If misogyny is so widespread it makes women POTUS candidates unelectable then it was the Democrat's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:19 PM
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I voted against billionaires this election, unlike GOP and Dem voters. I'm in a recession proof field anyway, enjoy your loyalty to billionaires!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:09 PM
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I mean that sucks but blaming this on feminism is clearly wrong. It was literally institutionalized by a series of feminist organizations and conceptualized by a feminist academic (who has since renounced her Frankenstein monster, to her credit and the discredit of the feminists who still protect it). You think this wouldn't have played out the exact same in the 50s? No I don't think a visibly Alzheimers afflicted negligent Christian fake billionaire carnival barker could have held a candle to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:06 PM
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I never said it was just a joke. You're being evasive and defensive already? Thanks. You implied they are not serious. The alternative to being serious is to be joking. You were trying to diminish and dismiss the harm caused by those women, so comparing you to Schrodinger's Joker is entirely appropriate. They do have to put up with women as a whole No they don't lol. No it isn't The Duluth Model proves you wrong. What has feminism ever done for men but harm? Right back at ya Ok, but the differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:56 PM
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Dozens of men are still infintessimally small when compared to even the size of this sub, much less the entire population. But thanks for touching on why this post is offensive. You came here assuming that men's sensibilities should be immune to offense or insult because the worst examples of men you could find were not insulted. That shows how you already equate all men with sexual predators, whether or not we actually are. Sorry if men's autonomy and individuality are a shock to you, but they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:50 PM
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I think of the self I was prior to when I was almost murdered by a woman I rejected as luckier than I am now. In the abstract I can understand that some of my experiences since then have been determined by the trauma of that experience, but that abstract understanding does practically nothing in any given experiential moment of consequential choice. Before my attack I could make choices involving women I do not already know well without feeling like memories of nearly being run off the road into…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:58 PM
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I never made it big lol, I specifically stick to artsy fartsy stuff with small studios. But hey, thanks for demonstrating how you use your own fear and hate as a refuge from any accountability for failing to achieve your goals! Bigotry loses again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:51 PM
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I’m talking about guys here justifying their vote on here. They are ones saying Trump is winning because liberals were too mean men. Never mind men have voted overwhelmingly right wing in ever election since the 1980s Most men didn't vote lol. Can't keep the facts straight. so there is nothing liberals can do to win them no matter who they run. This is cope, and it is so funny I’m responding to those claims. You're doing a terrible job of it. Jeffrey Epstein is on record calling Donakd Trump a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:49 PM
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If what they said weren’t acceptable they would not gotten votes and been forced to drop out. Your assumption that voters pay that much attention is naive, incorrect, and deeply funny. The fact they were not, shows it is in fact acceptable. No. It just shows it was successfully swept under the rug. Politics is downstream of culture, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Didn't realize you're an actual teenager, I have better things to do than dissect your idealist delusions. Just ask yourself this, when…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:42 PM
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Staying silent isn't the same as being a misandrist. Wrong. Tolerance for bigotry is no different from being the bigot yourself. Thinking women are wonderful is not the same as hating men. Wrong. Clinging to bias for women is what creates the pressure to be biased against men. This is literally the same argument white supremacists use, "I'm just proud of my race!". It is always a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:37 PM
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You think the tiny minority of women who say kill all men are serious? "It's just a joke" is no defense for misogyny, making it a defense for misandry only proves that men are right to not put up with you. The women's equality movement is about equality for women, not equality for all. Clues in the name. That's why it is called "feminism" and not the "women's equality movement", because it is about empowering women at men's expense not equality. And whilst I'd hope men and women could work toget…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:34 PM
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The only consolation I guess is that misandry never makes me feel fear for my life or safety or rights. That must be nice, to be so deluded. But men are afraid for our rights too. Denying that isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:30 PM
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Both can be just as abusive as individuals, but conservative women have a collective culture that is just less misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:27 PM
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Do you denounce the Clintons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:25 PM
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But women do that too, so why do we have to behave in a way that men approve of in order to have them? Because rights only exist to the extent that others want to enforce them for you. When men behave in ways women disapprove of, we lose our rights too. Welcome to equality. 👍 Why do women have to play nice but all men have to do is exist? Both sexes deserve rights in the abstract. In reality, both sexes only get to rely on rights in proportion to how consistently others enforce them. Therefore t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:19 PM
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Well zip up your pants buddy, No. cause the girls are gonna be fewer and further between for awhile by the looks of it. Nah, women need to get laid too. I'm a semi retired porn performer, I cannot care less about reactionary self inflicted femcels. Also it sounds like you are using women's bodies as a carrot on a stick to manipulate men. Fucking disgusting. And I'll be an ally for them the whole way Yeah I see how valuable of an asset you actually are lmfao... those poor ladies. You misogynists …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:15 PM
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All these men are prominent rw figures or politicians. Your argument is that prominent politicians are an accurately representative microcosm of the wider population? And you wonder why you are not taken seriously? Lmfao We have spent two days now of guys saying meanie liberals are why they voted a rapist con man into office, Liberal abuse is why the liberal voter base fell off by over 10 million votes. Trump did not win by growing his base, Harris lost by Democrats scaring their own base away f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:07 PM
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The fact you think bank account = freedom is a perfect encapsulation of how twisted by capital everyone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:00 PM
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Can you describe the humility men have demonstrated that entitles them to their rights? Existing as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:59 PM
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And all I’m saying is that, when the issue on the table is human rights that you’d wish for if you were born a woman, they shouldn’t be dictated by a man’s feelings They're not. 👍 So stop lying and crying for once in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:59 PM
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Keep lying and wondering why no one trusts or respects you then. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:58 PM
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Men need to learn how to regulate their emotions. We already know. Democrats need to learn how to appeal to men and humble sexist women. When women abuse men, men get to have emotions about it. Especially when they start feeling insulted and letting that emotion control them. No. We will feel insulted and act accordingly. We do not owe abusive women anything. Stew in your toxicity alone. if men learned to process and regulate their emotions they can become secure enough in themselves to avoid pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:57 PM
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This is just giving victim blaming vibes You blame men for being victims of verbal and emotional abuse and acting to defend themselves. So this is projection. And, women have good reasons for acting the ways they do. Including the tens of millions who voted for Trump or abstained from voting? You're just a sexist. Feminist does not equal faminazi. Tell it to the Duluth Model. Tell it to Jessica Valenti. Tell it to WaPo. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:51 PM
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Maybe you should keep being sore losers and see if you get different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:45 PM
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"Why do men hate me for constantly shitting on them?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:44 PM
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Sure. HRC. Barrack Obama. Kamala Harris. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. Diane Feinstein. For the record, the GOP says misandrist shit all the time too. They just don't break kayfabe about it like dems do. Also the Clintons are on Epstein's logs too, and Weinstein was deeply embedded in the party. Sex crimes are all over both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:43 PM
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If you make the claim that you prefer bears over men and don't back it up with action, don't be surprised when people stop listening to your claims. Keep crying wolf, or bear, and no one will care what happens to you quicker than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:40 PM
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Why does women saying they are afraid of men make certain men so upset? It's all men, don't lie. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men She's talking about men as a collective. Take accountability already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:38 PM
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but on to your point. Women shouldn't have to constantly be afraid of hurting a man's ego. or try to center their whole lives appealing to male interests Cool. Men shouldn't either, that's why Dems lost. the point of feminism was so that a woman could live her own life. focus on her dreams and aspirations. No, the point of feminism these days is to leverage women's fear and hatred of men to keep a class of media and political elites paid. Democrats kicked the can of institutionalizing abortion r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:36 PM
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He's talking about triangulation and how if lefty women were smart they would stop triangulating men against them. Guess you are too short to catch the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:28 PM
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You think your feelings are more important than men's, and you wonder why you are hated? Lol, you earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:26 PM
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Democrats don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:22 PM
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You think men who suffer abuse from women are effeminate, or just those who complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:21 PM
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I think you'd rather believe all men are like that then admit you are wrong, and that's why women were defeated in the polls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:04 PM
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I don't blame them for going the S. Korea 4B route. They were defeated so badly partly because of shit like that, so yeah. I blame them for doubling down on the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:03 PM
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Would you rape a woman if it was guaranteed you’d get away with it? No. Also, you're being incredibly offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:01 PM
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Look at the OP and figure out I was directly responding to it. That is how it matters. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:49 AM
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Look up the Duluth Model and try to imagine how durable your sense of masculinity would be after your wife or girlfriend beat you unconscious and the cops came to handcuff your nearly dead body for domestic violence instead of her. Thanks feminism!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:44 AM
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No actually. I just despise insecure hall pass monitors who are obsessed with projecting their sexual fantasies on me, like the rest of us normal law abiding adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:22 AM
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He can start by getting puritan control freak perverts like you off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:10 AM
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If you can't answer a direct question you sure as hell can't ask a rhetorical question. Non sequiturs are easy and boring. Try creating something interesting for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:08 AM
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So convenient to lose family members due to inability to pay for healthcare. 👍 So convenient to have Palestinian friends I have cherished since childhood. 👍 So convenient to be unable to disassociate from the violence you endorse, to have to face the horror without the comfort of lying excuses. I think you are too psychologically fragile to be honest with yourself about how you compromise your alleged standards for literally no gain. So you project your own guilt and need to rationalize >blatant…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:13 PM
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Then stop cumming inside women if you don't want to be a dad Why? They love it even more than I do. Equality is abortions for everyone, if you're afraid of equality then take my pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:02 PM
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I do take responsibility. Every time I abandon a woman with my child I leave a little time release mechanism above the kid's bed, and when they turn 18 I do the Get Out procedure to swap my brain with their's. That way mom has an empty nest and I can keep the cycle going. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:39 PM
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This is all 100% cope You're the one who broke their alleged principles and still lost lol, I'm the one who got to keep my moral integrity intact while only getting more of the absence of representation I've never had anyway. One of us is living in reality, and it isn't you lol you think the only way you can have a clean conscience is by saying the whole thing is rigged. Wrong. I voted on the things I actually have some influence over and which offered independent options. Local elections still …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:35 PM
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You were asked a direct question first. Answer it or I will just write you off as a dishonest interlocutor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:07 PM
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How does that work? By not voting for genocide. Use your brain. You voted against genocide? I already said I did. Ffs. Use your brain. Are you aware that both Kamala and Trump both support Israel? It’s not even questionable on both sides. Israel has the US in their back pocket no matter what So don't vote for them, because they are doing genocides. Is this really so hard for you? Use your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:05 PM
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No, you are the one who keeps obsessing over it. Do you also ask people in favor of women having abortions that they want men to kill themselves over never being a father? Of the men who kill themselves, some percentage did so because the abortion of their unborn child was the final straw. But that does not mean the people who want women to have the right to bodily autonomy are in favor of men killing themselves in response. What men will do with the right to their own bodies is make choices tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:02 PM
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"She had her fun she can carry it to term" that's what you sound like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:57 PM
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Well I’m part thanks to you not voting for Harris, Palestinians will be absolutely obliterated under Trump. The Democrats were already killing them. You voted for their genocide, I did not. You are in favor of genocide, I oppose it. 💅 More Palestinians will die under Trump than under Harris. 100% is 100% either way. Keep lying to yourself to excuse your support for killing them. Your moral high ground can’t save you from that fact. You have only written lies, not fact, so I have nothing to fear …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:51 PM
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Hey look, a lady using rape apologetics rhetoric! Women don't have penises so they don't get a say in what men do. Welcome to the equality you claim to want!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:35 PM
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This drive for moral purity in all respects is both impossible and misguided. There is an infinite gulf of difference between that and refusing to enable a sexual predator. So people hate Trump because he’s done despicable things in his personal life And in his public life. The man ruined the US's diplomatic standing for the next century. Mostly people hate him for his presentation. No, people hate him for being a violent tyrant. Stop speaking for people who are not you. Harris, Biden, and the B…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:29 PM
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You're talking past me, gonna ignore you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:16 PM
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They both should have the right to opt out. No baby wants to be raised by parents who don't want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:15 PM
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Those states should legalize abortions for both men and women. Stop trying to make me agree with your weird "let's impregnate women and run" fantasy. You are fucking creeping me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:14 PM
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Oh it’s not the leaders who are failing. It’s the electorate that is bigoted, stupid, and vengefu It's the leader's job to win their votes, not the voter's job to rubber stamp the candidate you want. Try again when you can respect democracy. It’s retribution against women. Tell it to all the white women who voted Trump. You were happy to throw Gaza under the bus, you're no victim. This election is revenge against feminism and the progress women have made in society and economically. 8=✊=D💦 🍑 Ama…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:10 PM
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When you are done splitting the pubic hair of a convicted rapist's taint, give being a normal and morally sound adult a try. You may enjoy the novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:47 PM
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I didn't vote for her either. I voted against genocide, just like I have in every election since 2008 when I voted for Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:46 PM
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I want men to have the right to consent to or reject parenthood, just like women. I am a pro-choice absolutist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:44 PM
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Then wtf do you want? If you read what I wrote you would know. 💅 Here it is again: Paper abortion rights for men Abortion rights for women Actual equality What are you complaining about ?? The answer to this question was already written down for you. You are crying because women have "more reproductive rights" You're saying I am crying to trivialize my factual observations, observations you clearly cannot refute. So you attack my feelings because you can't hurt my point. 💅 , if you are complaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:43 PM
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Come the fuck on. The man is in the Epstein flight logs. He is a rapist and a convict.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:22 PM
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So what? You want the men to be able to force women to either get abortions or birth their child? No. I would have written that if I wanted it. Duh. Men are also not the only ones legally obligated to support their child, paying child support has absolutely nothing to do with bodily autonomy They have to use their bodies to earn the money to pay the child support, so it absolutely does. Try again when you learn the definition of these terms. Men getting the right to paper abortions is just as ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:17 PM
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They're the ones who are legally obligated to support the baby, their bodily autonomy is on the line. Therefore men have fewer reproductive rights than women, glad you agree and backed up my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:50 PM
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A man's choice to have a baby or not stops after ejaculation. A woman's choice to have a baby stops after the first trimester as that's the abortion period. This is you admitting men have less reproductive rights or right to autonomy than women, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:54 PM
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I'd say "I hate to say I told you so", but it would be a lie. What I actually hate is your party's leaders for, once again, failing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:52 PM
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What I wrote is not what you are saying, and we can all read that you are lying. Done with your bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:09 PM
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I never said every woman hooks up with me. Quit making shit up, it's fucking annoying. Everyone looks like a liar when you force your lies into their mouths. We can all read I never wrote that. Shit like this is exactly why you struggle to keep men around. I'm not even in the same room with you and I can feel the insufferable miasma of anxious desperation in every letter you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:19 AM
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I didn't say any of that shit lmfao Look, you're getting boring. Cling to your lies for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:35 AM
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You're saying just move on to the next and that you can just instantly get women to accept sex only, Quote me where I said it's "instant". You keep making up shit just to make yourself mad, no wonder you can't keel a guy's attention. I don't believe you've done porn because of the way you speak, How many videos have you been credited in, since you must have enough experience to tell a fellow performer just from our writing? you're saying that women are instantly down for sex from the first messa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:22 AM
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Lmao you're literally flexing on the internet I'm sharing my experiences as a man, idc if you are so scared of the truth you need to invalidate me for saying it. 💅 If you actually did porn, then you should know more than anyone else, that your life isn't the norm. When did I say my life is the norm? Quote that. You're truly exposing yourself, that you have zero experience with women. Ugh, you sound obsessed with the thought of me exposing myself to you. But you also sound like a kid, so instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:10 AM
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Well yeah, it's satirizing the stuff women say when they claim they were too scared of a man to help him. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:00 AM
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I've literally been elbow deep in women, did porn for most of a decade. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:55 AM
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No it isn't, and no I don't. I'd appreciate it if you try not to speak for me going forward, if you can manage it. Just because a person does not feel obligated to put themselves at risk for a stranger does not mean they believe that stranger "deserves" to be harmed. The only belief we can confirm from their choice to not interfere is that they do not want to be harmed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:50 AM
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Answer my question first. Or are you scared?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:46 AM
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you feel the need to post how these women deserve to be hurt/killed, Where did OP write that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:54 PM
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Men's issues are not being addressed, I was referring to women's privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:08 PM
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I think you're talking past me instead of interacting with my actual comment with any conscious attention. You haven't addressed my point that feminism's approach to 'helping men' is indirectly reinforcing the traditional male gender role, or how that approach is practically begging men to view feminism as a direct threat to their dignity as men and quality of life in general. Yes there is a growing number of men who are tired of gender roles, but the overwhelming majority of men want to find co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:01 PM
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Reported for harrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:08 PM
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How much must your 'friendship' suck if you feel the need to force it on others against their consent. Maybe you should consider voting for the convicted rapist, you share the same respect for consent after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:22 PM
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I'm not your friend and I never thanked you for the harm you're participating in. Keep demonstrating how little you care about consent and autonomy though. You're a fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:13 PM
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Nah, there’s one choice that is clearly better than the other. "Better" is subjective, and you only think it is better because you have chosen to delude yourself. One choice that is obviously towards a better America and one that is towards the destruction of democracy. I have already explained how the Democrats are a threat to functional political representation. This is just a lie, one you haven't even tried to justify. Trump can get away with saying his plans out loud, like enacting revenge o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:58 PM
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I never said anything about every girl. I'm not interested in your 'yes' for example, or most women. Pretty weird for you to take that so personally. Do you actually expect every guy to be attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:29 AM
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You are coming across as incredibly insensitive. Idc how I come across to someone who snarkily implies I've never heard of marraige before. Hold yourself to your own standards. 💅 Even in the US until the 1970s, a husband could not by legal definition rape his wife. And he also could not be legally raped. 🤷‍♂️ man, it's like society was cruel to everyone and making a contest over it is just another variation of insensate cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:26 AM
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I don't need to guess lol. Comes with having lived the answer. By the time I am telling a woman I am only interested in sex, she has already told me the same thing without using her words. Luck is for unobservant kids who think they're the main character. Keep it for yourself, you need it more than me 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:40 AM
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Well clearly you've never spoken to a woman just by how you're responding That's a silly thing to say. Losing your temper cause I touched a nerve? How insecure. you actually think a majority of women just want a bunch of ONS Lol is English not your first language? I never said anything about what I think a majority of women do or don't want. But hey at least its really funny you're so obsessed with me you feel the need to make up little fantasies about me. Do you do that with every guy you crush…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:26 AM
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You're the one who implied I have never tried being honest with women, which was a lie. Not to mention probably a projection. 💅 Hilarious you're still thinking about this btw. Touched a nerve? 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:17 AM
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Have you ever heard of this thing called marriage? No, I have never heard of matrimony before. 🙄 Marraige gives rights and obligations to both parents that are not necessarily in their personal best interests, because marraige is an institution built to perpetuate entitled linneages and help foster children. For example, husbands were legally financially and socially responsible for their wive's well being. Due to how strict gender roles polarized society, this meant that prison sentences for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:13 AM
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You should thank me for taking responsibility Sticking your head in the sand about your own support for fascism by >delegating your political consent to the management of private interests< is as far from taking responsibility as it gets. You are literally giving it away, as much as you possibly can, to pseudo-saviors you yourself admit are corrupt and who have already failed and betrayed you countless times. But instead of even trying to mount a coherent defense of your self contradictory posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:02 AM
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I never said the Democratic Party wasn’t corrupt. I said it’s clear that one party is more corrupt than the other. And anyone can see that to be true with a functioning brain. If it is so clear and self evident it should be an absolutely effortless cakewalk for you to explain how you measure corruption and what objective measurements prove your claim. And yet anyone with a functioning brain can see you have not even tried to show this. How convenient! I don’t have an entirely positive view on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:27 AM
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Would you believe I wrote it despite being a leftist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:12 AM
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It’s clear to me that one is much more corrupt than the other. One wants to completely dismantle democracy and increase wealth inequality, the other does not. Why do you think either of these private institutions have any interest in representing the public? Neither need to actually dismantle the pseudo-democratic institutions of the US in order to render the public's will irrelevant for determining public policy. All both privately owned, privately run, privately staffed and funded brands need …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:39 AM
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Incels don't do much terrorism, last I checked literally every self declared incel mass shooter had nothing to do with the community. It's been a few years but I would not be surprised if that trend holds. Incels are more likely to kill themselves than anyone else. Like all psychopaths, serial killers and mass shooters have a direct interest in maximizing their notoriety. It's the whole point of their rampage after all, to be recognized as powerful and scary. 30 years ago the same cowards were p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:25 AM
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Reproductive rights, rights to innate value, in many countries the right to be recognized and classified as a victim of sexual or abusive crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:19 AM
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For the majority of human history men’s rights came first. The concept of rights being something populations get for being born isn't even 300 years old. You're just making shit up. All it takes for men’s rights to be taken more seriously nowadays is for men to put this on their political agenda and back it up with money All the men with money made and make their money off men's disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:17 AM
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I don't think it really has anything to do with being disposable To the privilege, the absence of privilege and those who suffer it are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:15 AM
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There is nothing worse than being "early" to a revolution. Sure there is: the revolution never happens and the species extinsguishes itself in an apathetic yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:14 AM
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It's actually gone into everyone's well-being Lol, then it failed. Most people in the US are less financially secure, less physically healthy, less mentally sane, and less capable of social mobility than the people of the same demographics were a hundred years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:11 AM
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Capitalism cannot coexist with a society where men are not disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:08 AM
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Deaths from workplace hazards in the most critically vital trades say you're self deluded. Edit to add: lol at that troll finally blocking me. I get to report them for frivolous blocks now 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:06 AM
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It all starts with limiting the profit motive to the parts of the economy that run to sustain consumption instead of to sustain the logistical network which underpins modern civilization. Yes, what I am saying is all Men's Rights Movements that are not anti-capitalist are doomed to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:05 AM
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Who breaks men's hearts more than women and their saturated fat soaked cooking? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:03 AM
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But the reason they don’t have as much support as I’d like isn’t because society thinks men are disposable. Only that some men are disposable, and the only way society distinguishes between the two is whether or not the man in question aligns with or disrupts the status quo. Which makes men disposable as a class, Q.E.D. It’s because one party benefits from a less educated population—including men AND women—and seeks to expand income inequality for their own financial benefit. Both parties do tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:00 AM
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Women are much more politically left-wing, at least in the United States. If they aren't white, sure. If they are, over half are right wing, and the white ones still outnumber the rest. While they may personally hold weakness in contempt, this demonstrates that they're much more interested in systemic solutions to homelessness, mental illness, etc., than men are. Bullshit, commitment to those issues is not determined by party affiliation and isn't gendered to begin with. You're simply perpetuati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:34 PM
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Homeless men are seen as a potential threat, not weak That is why weak men are held in contempt: we see them as a threat. Homeless men are less a threat to anyone than the societal neglect and contempt that is killing them is a threat to them. A weak man is not only one less shield on the wall, he's a potential traitor. A man cannot be percieved as weak without being seen as a threat, either to status and reputation or a literal physical threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:24 PM
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To the privilege, their privilege never sounds like a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM
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That's literally what OP did with his post lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:20 PM
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Because millions of people DO care about these issues! They just don't care about "only the men" in these issues, because that would limit the solution to "only men". Then they do not care about men or men's issues, and that is a problem. But they don't cater these messages to "only men" because they want to combat suicide in all demographics. Actual equity demands that the demographic most in peril should be focused on, so this isn't a moral principle or practical solution. It is an aesthetic p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:19 PM
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Isn’t the main complaint of men today that in the past they were almost guaranteed a wife no matter what? No. The main complaint is that we are disposable and have always been disposable. Ffs. The social role of men does not automatically include being a husband or father which gave men a feeling of control and power over their family. It never included that "automatically", anywhere. That had to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:16 PM
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, even the lowliest man was still in charge of the women in his life. Hahahaha Oh yeah, every piece of cannon fodder dying on a pike throughout history had a woman just off screen he could command and abuse on a whim. This is absolute bullshit. The disconnect in these conversations often comes from one side's refusal to grant any humanity to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:14 PM
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Those norms can’t be challenged until doing things that are traditionally feminine aren’t considered weak. You can make playing with dolls or makeup look as strong as you like, most men will still prefer to spend their time differently. Men won’t do something considered weak so the place to start is with redefining what is feminine to include more things which is the goal of feminism. This is so messed up. You're actually reinforcing the role that men should avoid weakness by doing this, since y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:11 PM
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All that evolutionary talk is outdated and inaccurate. Source? Proof? Men are more disposable than women in our society, all other current societies, and every known society throughout history. The real reason men's rights have no traction is: 1) it's not very clear what men want. This is just a result of you not paying attention. Men want more economic and social security, reproductive rights of our own, education reform, and overall less rampant hate against us. Do they want money to be spent …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:59 PM
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You're just diminishing and denying, you are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:22 PM
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So instead of answering in good faith you're getting defensive and lashing out against the messenger. Great look /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:21 PM
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Tldr: profit motive fucks everything to death
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:10 PM
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Men will be cold. It's a very grim future kid you not. Men, as always, will be a reflection of how society treats us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:56 PM
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That absolutely hasn't been my experience but thanks for filling me in on the thoughts of the Female Hive Mind 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:49 PM
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I am a part of a poly triad, thanks but I am a few hundred steps ahead of this lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:43 PM
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Women having high standards will have positive effect on men. Hahahahaha Imagine going through life thinking men are so fucking pathetic and incapable of autonomy that they need to be lead by pussy on the end of a stick towards improving themselves and their own lives. Let's be real, we are not producing good men. Let's be real, you can only speak for yourself. So all in all, it will be net positive for men if women increasing standards. If they meet them they will always have options and can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:18 PM
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By moving on to the next person who does want what they want. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:27 PM
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So you want women to tell you how to “strategize” so that men can easily have quick, commitment free sex with women who don’t want to have quick commitment free sex without the women realizing it? OP explicitly said he is asking for strategies which make it easier for both men and women to get what they want. This seems like a huge reach to smear OP as dishonest or predatory, and is pretty close to slut shaming too. Or are you asking what strategy to use to make women want the same quick commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:26 PM
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Thanks for not slut shaming OP while still prioritizing decency and respect. Sincerely, need to see more of this 🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:04 PM
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Yeah I agree, your reading comprehension sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:52 AM
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Calling my behavior creepy is laughable. Laughing at being called creepy just makes you more creepy, so why should I care what you think? After all, you think it isn't creepy to try to erase someone's autonomy just to try to make fun of them (and fail at it too, fyi. 'Hurt feelings', really? Try again when you outgrow your baby teeth). Clearly consent and autonomy are nebulous, foreign concepts to you - so why should anyone care if they give you a bad impression? You don't respect me anyway! We …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:31 PM
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You still haven't named even one emotion lol, 💅 guess you're helpless at defending yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:55 PM
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Those are a lot of words to say you don't understand morality. So are you capable of honestly refuting anything, or is throwing a temper tantrum and lying about your interlocutor's obvious superiority your only rhetorical tactic? If the latter: you should realize it is a bad tactic. It just makes you look immoral on top of factually wrong. Morality is often tied to emotion. Get back here with those goalposts, theif! Your claim is that morality necessarily involves emotion. I don't care about "of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:29 PM
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Eh, not all women. But a lot of them, and there's no movement to correct their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:14 PM
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The community whose negligence makes the shelters necessary in the first place? Why don't you ask plantation owners what should have been done with their slaves, while you are busy injecting conflicts of interest in every step of any process to help men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:54 PM
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No one is getting hunted sweaty, you can stop hyperventilating in the face of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:44 PM
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... so? It's not like anyone is going to get fired for protesting against men's rights. If people are so hostile to the concept of men having rights, they deserve to demonstrate their commitment to their cause by attaching their identities to their actions. So either their cause is not important and is just a thin excuse to bully and harrass using online anonymity and pretenses of a moral purpose as cover (in which case exposing the trolls is an unvarnished act of pro-social labor), or their cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:44 PM
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The quote is literally unsourced, unverified, and the article posted no receipts. The link to the group's site doesn't show any diminishing the severity of rape, if anything it seems a little too focused on presenting men as victims. So did you think empty hearsay is some kind of gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:37 PM
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Do you have a link that isn't an automatic download of something called "Noble, Incest: the last Taboo"? Somehow that isn't doing your argument any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:44 PM
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You are the one that brought up the morality of using certain words So? That has fuck all to do with feelings! lmao, how underdeveloped are your emotional processing skills if you think moral/amoral/immoral amount to feelings? Morality is usually tied to emotions and feelings Lmfao, tell me you are not moral without telling me! Quite literally every culture explicitly emphasizes the importance of divorcing moral judgement from personal emotion, you are spewing completely wrong bullshit to try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:19 PM
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I mean, there are women who say good things about him. They're not credible women and they're not credible claims, but the point is that it is a bad qualifier. Also, Elon threw himself into that group. He didn't trip over his shoelaces and fall dick first into the Epstein pedo ranch, just like the Clintons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:52 PM
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What emotion is described by "💅"? It's an emoji of getting one's nails painted. That's an emotion to you? What a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:08 PM
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So your feelings I haven't mentioned feelings at all. Not the best at reading are you? Or you're just being dishonest. Either way, it's a bad look for you girlie. so hurt by the term "nice guy" that you can't even bear to see the word "nice" used in a sentence without being triggered You seem slow on the uptake so let me spell it out even more than I already have. If a specific account makes it their business to shit on 'nice guys' all the time, and the first thing they say about their concept o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:03 PM
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Always happy to disappoint losers, reply to me again if you want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:30 PM
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Already did, little illiterate liar. Here it is again: https://www.menshealthforum.org.uk/news/suicidal-men-do-seek-help I haven't mentioned my feelings, but even if I did they would be more credible than your lazy lies. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:29 PM
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Q4M: You meet the perfect woman but you find out about her ex This is already unrealistic. I don't care about exes. You are at her house and are throwing away some orange peels in the kitchen garbage She doesn't compost them? What a skank. when in the garbage you see photos of her and her ex... Nah, I wouldn't. That's in the garbage, so I wouldn't notice or care about it. The garbage can exists so that I do not have to think about its contents ever again. Upon a closer look this guy is easily a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:25 PM
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Wait... one public appearance in October counts as trying to win votes now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 10:55 PM
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Both of these people just seem innately insufferable to me already, and the fact they thought this is a worthwhile use of their time only emphasizes my first impression
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 10:51 PM
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The fearmongering about modest women being a bad choice cuz they are bad in the bed is absolutely ridiculous and it denotes massive pick-me and porn rotten behavior Lmfao Translation: "I am a virgin and if you ladies aren't then you are addicted to porn and dick - but also focusing on sex and learning lots about it doesn't make you better at sex!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:49 PM
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If I made 'changes' it should be trivial to cite them. Instead you tease with accusations only to follow them up with a thunderous and deafening round of... nothing! 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:46 PM
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If you want to get owned with creative originality you can earn it one of two ways: Write something worth my time. Pay me. Pick one, and notice that "whining" is not an option. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:40 PM
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And I'm the only one between the two of us clever enough to laugh at the punchline: you! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:37 PM
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Oh the details on that? Afaik his social media presence was too small to hit him hard there. So most of it was over anonymous calls, mail, and grafitti iirc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:36 PM
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I don't want or need 'standing' from anyone like you kiddo, run along back to whatever mother figure you prefer to hide behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:34 PM
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So are we all supposed to stop using the word "guy" too? I mean I'd like it better that way but there are no logical or moral incongruities springing up from the use of "guy" afaik, so 'supposed' is kind of extreme. I don't use "Mother fucker" when talking about the qualities that make a good man good, so that's a great example. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:33 PM
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Maybe just write in coherent English.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:30 PM
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Here you are again misconstruing his life and death to push your own narrative. Nah, it isn't 'misconstruing' to state the self evident. Earl had a social, financial, and emotional life he saw as worth living until he endured the failure of his shelter and sufferred the campaign of harrassment for it. It is the opposite of a stretch to infer that these things destroyed his will to live, in fact the burden of proof is on anyone who claims otherwise. If you cared about men you’d empathize with him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:30 PM
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He [Silverman] died as a warning of what happens to men who try to help other men. That's definitely something, and it's far less of a disservice than what the people who killed him are doing (smearing other men for not wanting to be bullied to death, like you are doing here). This is you, claiming that the lesson we should take from Silverman's death is to not help men because it leads to suicide. Good thing that is not me "literally tell(ing) men not to bother trying to help other men because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:22 PM
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This is the last reply I'll waste on you The very next notification in my notifications is you replying to me dude, lmfao Way to tell me you have absolutely no willpower. 💅 because your reading comprehension is so incredibly poor and I find your views to be absolutely morally repugnant. I don't remember asking for a crybaby biography, but now that I can see how funny it is I'm thankful you wrote it all down. But my premise is not that support centers are bad but only that they struggle to stay o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:18 PM
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Ooof, felt this one deep dude. Are you referring to something specific or stalking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:14 PM
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Unironically it’s exactly what you brought up. He gets brought up not to talk about men’s rights but to rather criticize feminism. This is the equivalent of criticizing feminists for "attacking Mitch McConnell instead of advocating for women's rights". It only makes sense if you don't see men as human beings, have done nothing to earnestly educate yourself on the men's rights movement, or both. To the sober and sane, it is so obvious why criticizing feminism for the harm it has done to men is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:12 PM
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Unfortunately Earl's situation only got more obfuscated the closer I looked into it, the last time I looked. It was easy to find people who claimed to have first hand experience of the whole affair, and those who make such claims seem to take either side rather arbitrarily so I've largely dismissed them as non-verifiable. However I have also felt it necessary to dismiss more 'legitimate' published sources along similar lines. They can't just accuse organizations or public figures of organizing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:13 PM
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Victim blaming, keep showing off all that class.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:01 PM
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People can still use the word nice to describe an action without labeling a person as a "Nice Guy" in the parlance as it's understood in this sub. They can, but if women do so while complaining endlessly about Nice Guys then others are free to conclude those ladies are causing their own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:00 PM
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Because the other side, e.g. people like you, You mean former feminists who left the movement due to almost being murdered by a woman for rejecting her, and everyone I formerly trusted taking her side? Those people like me? Got any more revealingly bigoted assumptions while you're shoulder-deep in your pants, pulling shit from your ass? literally want to maintain the problems that men face What problems do I want to maintain? Be specific. Afaict you're just lying through your teeth while making …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:58 PM
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Given how many men do the former due to being accused of and/or victimized by the latter: they might as well be. Your premise is that providing male-focused support centers is bad because men won't use them. I just gave you a cited source where over 9/10ths of the most critically vulnerable men sought services allegedly made for them specifically, only to be rejected by those services. If that is happening for services as cut and dry as suicide prevention, why do you think the trends reverse the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:40 PM
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"I'm not against centers, just funding them. Or placing them where they are most needed. Or the thought that they might, one day, maybe prevent one penny from going to women's shelters. Until each of these deeply unreasonable stumbling blocks are dealt with in a way that indulges me, and I still oppose these centers, you cannot say I oppose these centers!" You sound like a conservative Democrat who personally opposes abortion, but doesn't want to suffer any consequences for doing so. I don't car…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:30 PM
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Ok, so are you aware that the most likely suspect for the murder of children aged 10 and under are the kids' own mother? Imagine holding mothers' feelings as so important it is worth endangering children. Until women start holding each other accountable we have to take more precautions and just raise all children in foster care and imprison new mothers until they prove themselves innocent of all ThoughtCrime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:25 PM
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Um, no. In no way shape or form Are the numbers for women being the perpetrators of rape even comparable to men. Not only are they comparable, they are very close and in some cases almost exactly the same. https://web.archive.org/web/20160316232741/http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/CP91-ID91-PR91-%20Draft%20I%20with%20Gamez%20comments%20accepted.pdf "convenience sample of 13,877 students in 32 nations" that 2.4% of males and 1.8% of females admitted to having physically forced someone into having se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:22 PM
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You do realize that people being unfairly killed for a cause is usually how movements explode into action? This is just survivorship bias. The stories of successful reformist or revolutionary movements that started with an unjust death are vastly outnumbered by the unsuccessful movements with the same origins. I think it's sad that his legacy is that men WONT help other men because of what he suffered. "Won't"? His legacy is that men can't help other men because their efforts fail before they ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:03 PM
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People pleasers want social acceptance. Nice guys want pussy. Distinction without a difference. At most this just means Nice Guys are a subtype of people pleasers. So what are you upset about? Nothing. I'm having fun writing circles around you. 💅 Then Im not expecting men to make serious sacrifices or taking real risks to be considered good. Lol I've seen too much of your post history to believe that, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:31 PM
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The person I replied to use the word "nice". Idc if you didn't, I was originally replying to someone who did. There is being nice and doing nice things and then there is being a "Nice Guy". Frankly, the distinction in practice is always arbitrary because the label attempts to define the 'Nice Guy's' intentions unilaterally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:29 PM
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real men's advocacy will probably come from a progressive left movement with the support of both genders. Why would men's advocacy come from the most zealously misandristic demographic in current day politics? Even if it did, why would men trust it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:23 PM
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Men are far less likely than women to avail themselves of these services, which makes them difficult to maintain separate from the facilities that primarily serve women. This simply is not true. https://www.menshealthforum.org.uk/news/suicidal-men-do-seek-help
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:22 PM
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If you point to Silverman as a reason why you can't or shouldn't try to open up or support men's DV shelters, then he died for nothing Wrong. He died as a warning of what happens to men who try to help other men. That's definitely something, and it's far less of a disservice than what the people who killed him are doing (smearing other men for not wanting to be bullied to death, like you are doing here).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:17 PM
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It’s common anecdotal evidence from men that don’t comprehend that whole idea but like to point to it as “see we do have it hard”. What don't they comprehend? That advocating for men is essentially putting a target on their back with the caption "please bully me to death"? Why are you belittling anyone who cites Earl's death as an example of feminism's violence, instead of belittling the people who bullied a man to death for trying to help others?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:13 PM
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So how do you suggest we do that? Ignoring the whiners and con artists by building sociological necessities where they are needed. Or, alternatively, we can give the whiners and con artists the Earl Silverman treatment instead of doing that to the people who are trying to help others. How many people do you think are going into homeless shelters and actually are using the real name or identity? Vetting shelter users is as simple as comparing their face to the publicly available mug shot, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:10 PM
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Literally just don't put it near any schools or places where there are potential victims. So don't build shelters for male victims where there are potential victims?? We should build the shelters where there is zero possibility of them being anywhere near where male victims already live? Why are you reflexively assuming that "victims" =/= "men"?? Put it next to the department store so there is access for jobs and there's plenty of eyes to keep watch on them. There are more eyes on department sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:52 PM
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He stood up for what was right and fought for what he believes in. And then what happened? Everything he built and was, was destroyed. Now you are using him as a reason not to help other men. No. He is a reason to not endanger ourselves for no gain. Earl is a story of what happens to men who prioritize men's collective welfare over their own personal safety, reputation, and well being. What happens is misandrists, men and women, will destroy him. Then the rest of society will blame anyone but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:33 PM
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I didn't say you are belittling Earl, I said you are belittling everyone who is afraid to take action because they are afraid of being bullied to death like Earl was. I'm just sorry that he's not an inspiration for men's advocacy Why can't you be sorry he is an example of women's violence? I'm just sorry that he's not an inspiration for men's advocacy and is instead held up as a deterrent This is some severe fake apology crap. So you are apologizing for other men seeing Earl's fate and deciding …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:26 PM
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Should be the top comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:17 PM
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OP literally tagged the post as a question for MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:10 PM
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Why are you belittiling people for being afraid of getting literally bullied to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:09 PM
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No. Being nice does not mean one has to be a doormat. It's literally the defining feature of the 'Nice Guy', so yes it does. Your husband sounds KIND, not nice. "Nice" is saccharine and ingratiating, kindness is just doing what you can to help because you simply enjoy helping. When women define "good men" exclusively in terms of openness to non-reciprocal generosity, they are either describing Nice Guys specifically or setting themselves up to attract Nice Guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:07 PM
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Doormats/suckers/naieve people, have no sense of awareness of what they’re doing or why, You're talking about infants and people trapped in comas. Also, it's spelled "naive". some people do believe in such things, charity/volunteer work/doing favors within reason/two way streets/family and friends, Those aren't doormats lol, those are examples of genuinely generous and compassionate people. This is what most people believe Lol You're incoherent. A doormat is a person who feigns selflessness or g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:04 PM
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Because theyre not actually nice. They want pussy for all their hard work and only want to be ‘nice’ to the person they wanna fuck. They're people pleasers, like I said. Since I’m bored, and I doubt you’ll answer, what’s mediocre about it? None of them are examples of you making any real sacrifices or taking real risks for anyone else's benefit. They're more like routine courtesies, the baseline minimum, than anything praiseworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:00 PM
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Even that... ok, when I think "tragedy" I think "awful thing happens to good people >because they are too good for this world to respect them<". A tragedy is a tragedy because it was the result of otherwise decent people pursuing good intentions to the best of their ability, only for human ignorance and the machinations of an insensate cosmos to interfere and render all their effort and virtue pointless. The assassination of Lincoln leading to an incomplete Reconstruction that leaves a gaping ma…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 05:56 PM
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I already said the list is mediocre, if you want more than that try earning it. 💅 People pleasers are not good people, you even said so yourself. "No one likes nice guys". You're the one with an incoherent position on who is a good or bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:27 PM
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"Tragically" this is not a tragedy, this horrifying. This is senseless death pursued for the worst reasons and inflicted on the least deserving. This is an attrocity, not a tragedy.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/11/24 04:25 PM
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I don't think you know what it means to be a person, let alone a good or bad one. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:22 PM
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These are hilariously mediocre standards for altruism lmao, and even funnier that none of them include doing anything for your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:12 PM
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Other women say good things about him, Men who fit this qualification include Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Marquis de Sade, Dolcett (the artist), Elon Musk, Jeffrey Epstein, etc. Like, what a bizarre and irrational qualifier! What if other women are deliberately inflating a man's reputation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:50 PM
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So, a doormat. You think a good guy is a guy who gives without even the false hope of reciprocation. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:43 PM
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I can't expect them to evenly moderate femcel content like they do with the incels. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:09 PM
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Just like some dudes insult a girl that sleeps around for not having standards or self respect, fuckboi is also given the same judgments. By who? Not by women or men as far as I have seen. The only difference is, when it comes to women a “slut” is universally given social scandal where with fucbois, the women give judgement, the guys give them high fives. What women give judgement? Maybe older conservatives do, but that's true for some older men too. No one cares. 🤷‍♂️ And dudes don’t care if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:08 PM
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I think It’s more “eww he has sex with the girls I also think are gross!” Wait... what? How is this an insult to anyone but the "gross" women? Like the idea that a man can be successfully shamed for getting laid is so bizarre it's actually kind of comical. I'm sure it happens from time to time, but not so much that most men would mind being referred to as a "fuckboi".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:43 PM
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What a devastating burn, "Look at that piece of shit, I bet he spends double digit percentiles of his time alive just fucking"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:39 PM
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I don’t believe men are primarily valued for how many women they sleep with I believe you are wrong. 🤷‍♂️ which I'm not going to lie, I find this notion baffling. Oh I agree with you on this lol I wonder if those who believe this are quite young, because in my experience, this isn’t the case at all. On the contrary, the older I get the more I think this belief has a specific kind of validity. Throughout my teenage years and into adulthood, I’ve never seen men receive widespread praise solely for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:35 PM
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How do Lilith's posts not qualify as spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:55 PM
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It's called "subverting expectations", unlike trying to attack my masculinity just cause you got owned. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:52 AM
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Seems you have a habit of losing your money on dumb assumptions. I actually tend to date older women, but only if they treat me right. I bet it's hard to relate to anyone when you're so rudely presumptive. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:24 AM
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Not saying it's all his fault, just that is the curse he's working with. Only he can save himself from it🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:27 AM
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I wouldn't mind it too much if she really got a lot of happiness from it, but the more I have to literally provide for her the harder it is to relate to her. PS you're hubby's friend sounds like Captain Save A Hoe. The guy so insecure he has to date people who basically cannot fend for themselves, so he doesn't have to worry about them leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:15 AM
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That's ok, just be yourself and eventually you will get it. example of advice that works for no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:47 PM
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Most people who suck at flirting ARE "riddled with anxiety" about it. No, I think most people who suck at flirting suck because they fail to pick up on it. Those folks outnumber the social anxiety types by an order of magnitude or more. And no, it's not flirting "drills," it's a conversation that can involve her: giving him feedback on flirting I've never even once heard flirting feedback that was actionable or relevant. I don't even know what you could tell a person to help them flirt better be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:06 PM
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I think the premise that men need to learn social skills first is just an empty neg at best, and poisoning the well for the vast majority of men. It's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:59 PM
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Thanks, always nice to be appreciated for caring about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:57 PM
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Why do you think flirting is harder than bonding platonically?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:55 PM
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...no, it doesn't mean that your female friend It doesn't matter if the carrot is a specific female friend or a nebulous quantity of women or the entire collective population of women. The fundamental message here remains: sexless guy => further suppresses his sexuality => befriends women => (does not matter how many or what steps go here) => sex with women. When what the message really should be is: sexless guy => learns to accept and express his sexuality around women and attraction to specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:52 PM
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It does for learning how to flirt. You cannot actively learn how to flirt with friends you feel no attraction to, you can only passively try to learn by watching them flirt with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:35 PM
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Then they should form platonic bonds with men, that would be starting at the lowest tier of difficulty. If your premise is they're too incapable for any difficulty (which is not one I am inclined to accept for the vast majority of men), starting them off on platonic friendships with women is just dropping them in the ocean with concrete waders. Any man who is a late social bloomer will just be held back further by that. Like... I don't understand why women seem so in denial about how a man's att…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:33 PM
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No one is offended lol, you're not that important. Here's hoping you internalize all the bad advice coming your way then, and at least learn the hard way since you denied yourself the easy way. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:17 PM
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Bad thing for all the men in your life who take your advice seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:16 PM
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There's women commenting in this very post about how "platonic ease" is necessary for flirting. So no, it is not mischaracterizing the advice, it is calling out terrible advice. That said most men are better off just using dating apps if they're working age/post college than tying their success to large platonic social circles, simply because the later is much harder and time consuming to develop even if it's theoretically superior in results, especially if you're not someone who has such a circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:58 PM
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Why do you assume that when people suggest working on social skills that they think ONLY that is necessary to get dates? It is not an assumption, that is the literal and explicit message too many women tell men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:54 PM
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sigh That helped you find a partner because you are a woman. For men this is seen as a baseline standard, not anything that positively contributes to their value as a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:53 PM
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They aren’t separate. Flirting is categorically distinct from all other forms of communication. The method of playing with established social norms to signal attraction and romantic potential has more in common with a comedy routine or the mutual attempts at intimidation in the prelude to a fight than more everyday social dynamics. You can’t learn how to flirt if you can’t make people feel at ease with you platonically. On the contrary, flirting is impossible with someone who is at ease with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:50 PM
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If a guy goes to his woman friends and asks for flirting advice and is told to socialize more without flirting, it is his women friends who struggle with socializing. They were given an explicit request and refused to grant it under the premise that they know what the guy needs better than he does. Hell that's not only anti-social, that is failing to be his friend. Now if he takes their advice he only has a stunted social and sexual life to look forward to, he was better off not going to them fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:36 PM
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Why are you struggling so hard to deny this guy's experience or blame him for the shitty lies women told him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:31 PM
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Wait lmao are you suggesting flirting drills as a real recommendation?! Omfg I am dying, that's one of the funniest things I've ever heard! Flirting is all about sensitivity to another person's genuine feelings of attraction and their sense of what is and isn't appropriate to do or say, it isn't something you can drill like a breaching formation at boot camp. You only learn more about flirting by doing it with someone who is earnestly flirting with you, otherwise you are 'practicing' with someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:28 PM
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Oh look at that, it's OP's exact argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:21 PM
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It won't do that either. People who lack social skills don't get them by passive osmosis, if that worked they would not lack social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:21 PM
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So the idea is still "being friends with women will make women have sex with you, but there's extra steps". This is still dangling sex in front of men to persuade them to befriend women. It's only getting more gross the more I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:20 PM
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Why isn't "giving feedback to sources about their bad advice" one of the options here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:18 PM
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The only evidence you've given is your personal experience. Which is infinitely more than what you have offered. And I'm sure other men could chime in and say "this didn't work." It not only doesn't work, it is practically counterproductive and immoral. It is the exact same Nice Guy logic women hate: pretend to be a friend so you can approach when they are most vulnerable. It's disgusting. But then, for any piece of advice regarding literally anything under the sun, the same thing is true. No, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:16 PM
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What a bullshit hyperbolic vacuum of an argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:06 PM
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The great thing about taking someone's advice is that it's not a permanent life commitment. If it doesn't work you can always try something else. I honestly do not know how to relate to this degree of passivity. If someone's advice did not work for me in a way that shows it cannot work for anyone, or if their advice was deeply counterproductive - then I would be responsible for informing the source that their advice is actually harmful. Not doing that would be an ethical failure, as it would all…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:05 PM
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Half the accounts belonging to women doesn't mean half of Europe's women are on OLD, or that every account is active. Duh. Already explained this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:38 AM
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If that was true, every woman would get married if they wanted to online dating. No they wouldn't lol. They have to be proposed to for that to happen, and if they are too busy rejecting decent men to allow it to happen then they won't get married.💅 If that were true, why do the vast majority of women swear off online dating? Because it is dehumanizing to everyone involved. But that does not change how OLD specifically structures their apps to function like shopping for women. You think they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:42 AM
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Everyone online dating is just shopping. No, this absolutely contradicts the experiences I've gained as a man. Men are not doing OLD by shopping. Stop speaking for us, it is just lying. Believe me most women get discarded too. You have to be picked to be discarded. Most men are usually just ignored. Both sexes have specific things they're looking for, just like employers. I think you are projecting your own transactional mindset onto others, just like employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:38 AM
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Who is the "good guy" who struggles with dating? I'd say most men struggle to some degree or another. It's very rare for a guy to face little to no difficulty or failure in dating, either across their whole life or in short phases. So look around you. So long as you are outside of prison, the majority of the men you see are the ones who face some struggle with dating. 🤷‍♂️ What are his values and behaviors that demonstrate them? Responsibility, shown with time management/planning. Trustworthines…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:35 AM
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You’re not slick. We will have to agree to disagree on that. You replied to ME about something I said. And that means I was talking about you, despite how we both agree I was talking about people who do something you do not do? No, that is incoherent and visibly arbitrary. I get to specify what my words mean, not anyone else. I was talking about women who blame everyone else for their depression, when you blame your depression on being a woman. Obviously I was talking about other women than you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:58 PM
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You’re only proving my point. You do not have a point, much less a provable point. You don’t even know me yet you feel entitled to make assumptions about my life. Quote me where I referred to you specifically. Seems like you're telling on yourself here. I sure as hell don’t blame “everyone else” for my depression. Which could have been an indicator I wasn't talking about you, since you blame being born as a woman for your depression. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:16 PM
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Ahhh, yeah I share that suspicion as well. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/24 10:12 PM
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Is it true that bisexual men are much less common than bisexual women and that men usually lean hard one way or the other? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:22 PM
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If only I had the ego of a subaverage woman, then I would be making myself depressed but at least I could convince myself it is everyone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:21 PM
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The issue with a statement like "never" is that it only takes one case (even anecdotal) to disprove it. Oh stop moving the goalposts. Your claim was that society and women as a collective would change to become more accepting of bi men. You will not prove that has happened until women rejecting men for being bi becomes a statistically marginal experience. No single anecdote or collection of anecdotes (smaller than 7 digit sample sizes anyway) proves that claim, nor do they disprove the opposite …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:20 PM
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That the sexual fantasies about women's degradation are a call coming from inside the house? Me too.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/24 07:01 PM
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Is lilith a real person or a sequence prediction bot? Who can say, she's just been making the same post for 5 years now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:27 PM
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As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism? Started as a bunch of rich white women who wanted the same power as white rich men, and it never changed. Failed to protect women's reproductive rights and failed to respect men at all. I’m not talking about the sort of feminism where some crazy people want men to not exist, Ok, so you are no longer talking about feminism. You are talking about your fantasy ideal of what you want feminism to be. This is what feminism is: https…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:19 PM
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Keep your projections to yourself BitterBetty. People generally are pretty fucking dumb, caring what they think about you is a great way to be as dumb as them. If they find me annoying then they can find others to chill with, I am more than fulfilled by my social life. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:43 PM
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Keep this one mods, she's here to help 🖤
/r/Divorce_Men22/10/24 08:26 PM
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The only person obsessed with arguing semantics is you, my friend I'm not your friend, and you are the one arguing that taking advantage of others for sex isn't predatory. You are the one splitting hairs on whether exploitation for sex is predatory. We’re not changing because there’s nothing wrong to change. When did I mention anything about changes? Put down the bottle and the meth pipe before trying to reply again, and make sure to actually read the words I wrote. Women aren’t entitled, When d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:27 PM
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I said men want “higher value”. Not value from ZERO Then you failed to specify that, since a shift from zero to one is an increase in value. Again, not my fault you don't communicate well. 💅 Taking advantage of someone can mean a lot of things. “Predatory” is a super loaded word that you used. Taking advantage of someone is predatory, the fact that you are trying to worm your way out of that reality makes me think you projected that accusation without realizing the full weight of it. Which would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:06 PM
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"How does she view you" is an incredibly vague and abstract concept. Not even slightly. It's actually completely binary. Does she respect me, or does she not. Does she see me as a manifold of multifaceted features and characteristics, or does she not. Does she view my time thoughts feelings and desires as important to her, or does she not. It's actually just as black and white as scrutinizing her treatment of me, just through the lens of how she perceives me. Let's say you're not the hottest or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:00 AM
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Ironically, you left out the most important part of the "context" that matters: How are you being treated in your relationship? That was covered in the first section, "how does she view you". I'm genuinely not sure some of you know how to feel that way unless you're comparing yourself to some other dude. No, it's more like too many men are conditioned to believe the woman is the prize and they have to 'earn' her. Whether she treats them with any compassion or respect is an afterthought, if thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:50 PM
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You said men have to give ourselves value, which would mean we do not have any before we do that. Not my problem your phrasing was poor. I never said you were predatory. That’s a projection. You literally accused me of "taking advantage" of women, that is predatory. Now you are demonstrating you lack the emotional control to even acknowledge that. Keep proving the value too many women do not have for all I care, it is by their own dishonesty that they lose any value to me. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:08 PM
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You've literally said men are doing all this work for nothing. Then it should be easy to quote me writing that. Instead, I wrote that men are jaded from putting in all this work only to be rejected and/or ghosted anyway. Doing it for nothing alone would be better than what these guys all too often get: led along only to be dropped like a lit dynamite stick. If women don't like the methodology which arose in reaction to these experiences, they're just complaining about men adapting to the pressur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:28 PM
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You quoted four separate fragments and made 2.5 lines of "I'm not mad I'm laughing" emojis. There was nothing to see because you didn't write a point. The fragments you quoted don't even contradict each other and in fact support each other. Expecting others to innately understand what configuration of misinterpretations you are conflating with a coherent point is failing to communicate a point. Show your work, use complete sentences, and communicate like you graduated high school. Or I will simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:08 PM
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Do you have a point to make, or am I overestimating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:38 PM
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Oh I see what you are saying. However, espscially for men who have never been in a relationship before, getting that milestone is often a greater priority than making sure the milestone is marraige material.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:16 PM
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I limit likes by not using the apps 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:15 PM
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So drop them! They're basically mental health poison and we should normalize contempt for the apps and their parent companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:14 PM
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Like I said, much funnier this way! Awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:13 PM
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Yep, hence the phrase "bigoted belief"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:12 PM
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I felt like I was essentially objectifying each and every one of them. Exactly, that is because that is what the apps are for. Everyone objectifies everyone in them. Even cold approaching is a better method.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:55 PM
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Thing is, guys might actually be more successful if they are pickier - No. This has never once been demonstrated to be true. women are jaded because they know men aren't actually looking at profiles So? Men are jaded from putting tons of work in just to be rejected or ghosted. If they direct their attention to those they really like the look of, then the people they are messaging will know they at least read the profile. And it still won't mean they'll swipe right on those guys, so it is a waste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:48 PM
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Being more selective does not make anything more meaningful, unless both people swipe right it is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:44 PM
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Men's low standards make women more picky on the apps. Sure. But it is a cost men are happy to pay, since we cannot afford to be more selective. I resent how cut-throat I had to be in order to avoid getting absolutely flooded with matches. 🙄 Sorry, it is really hard to sympathize with your privilege no matter how much you don't want it. It eventually worked, but the process felt cold, disconnected and even dehumanising. That would be because you are on a dating app. It's even worse for men, so j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:42 PM
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No thanks, I don't indulge learned helplessness. It's funnier that way. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:29 PM
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You wrote it in every post you've ever made here. When have you written anything positive about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:28 PM
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Don't need them to, I can make my own choices. When you grow up you'll understand 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:28 PM
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I cant because moderators hate that now. Just use the link format which prevents people from commenting, and they are fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:24 PM
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Every white paper on this topic published for the last 40 years says the exact opposite. This is just a bigoted belief with no substance backing it up, I feel sorry for the men and boys in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:22 PM
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Go to therapy, men Wont happen with large quantity of men because they refuse to go to therapy and see it as some feminist conspiracy theory. It has nothing to do with feminism, and everything to do with how men process their emotions differently from women. The fact that talk therapy is less effective for men has been repeatedly demonstrated for decades now. Also wont happen because then you’ll be told that you’re a woman or that you’re a chad, so your advice doesnt count, Why are you trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:20 PM
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Starting to think Lilith isn't an actual troll and is earnestly and truly this incapable of building a coherent argument that is not self defeating on the first read. but are totally OK when men show those same problems. Pretty sure men are not ok with men having problems, but what do I know. I'm just a man who wants more of my problems to go away. First of all, anyone who thinks people can only have baggage from relationships is an idiot No one said that. Second, guys here are very comfortable,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:09 PM
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You’re free to go about thinking women are good for nothing but sex I said most, not all. Don't get worked up now lol, you were the one who said men don't have value. We can also cringe at your morals from a large distance Idc, your morals suck. and feel bad for the women who you take advantage of. Making up women to make yourself feel bad is what neurotic nice guys do, I've never taken advantage of anyone. Plenty of women just want sex too, it's 2024. Your assumption that my sexuality is necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:59 PM
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I'll ask what I want, thanks. Let them tell on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:53 PM
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What value lol Most ladies these days are only worth the effort for a pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:20 AM
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And women don’t actually say they prefer “self-interested dominance.” But it actually seems like a good description of the role they tend to like to see men play, whereas "learned helplessness" seems like a common complaint men have about the women they get with. I think the issue is everyone is interpreting “self-interested dominance” as a net-positive trait ? Lol, I'm not doing that Women don’t want selfish assholes who are domineering and seeking their own advantage at the expenses of others.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:56 PM
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Idk, it ends up paying for itself and then some imho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:37 PM
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Ok, so you would rather obliterate your testes than roleplay to get sexy juices flowing. That's definitely a take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:16 PM
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I agree with this framing completely, it actually expressed what I was trying to say better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:57 PM
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Lmao, fucking horrendously repellant
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:55 PM
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It sounds like you are conflating basic emotional legibility with 'more feminine' and emotional neutrality with 'less feminine', when really that's all greater or lower quality communication. I mean, people are going to be more drawn to the people whose emotions are legible to them. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:54 PM
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Lots of the “masculine” characteristics that women desire in male romantic partners overlap with self-interested dominance. Ok... Lots of the “feminine” characteristics that men desire in female romantic partners overlap with submisisve learned helplessness. Wait, what? "Helplessness" is a dead fish in the bedroom. There's nothing attractive about someone basically having the mind of a child, wtf? Men like being relied on, not having to do everything for women. This seems like a huge reach. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:50 PM
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The dating scene is full of mediocre men, why should we initiate? Because you are mediocre too, and you initiating filters out some of the more problematic men. And yes, we do expect the bill to be paid by the man because they're not the ones at risk of being raped and killed by a man This is why you can only pull mediocre men. 💅 We already do so much to fit into the mold that society wants for women Boo hoo, so do men. And we don't receive any preferential treatment in schools, we all get the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:30 PM
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Or "If you were half the man you look like you would have been traumatized", yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:19 PM
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Your entire argument is utilizing contempt towards women to have sex as a solution Yet I never said the contempt has to be real. It can work when real, but works better when roleplayed. I am merely suggesting that if someone is feeling poorly about themselves maybe things such as therapy and self improvement can be beneficial for both for their health and dating lives towards an actual partnership. Ok, and I'm saying if their self esteem issues are tied to a lack of sexual success with women - t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:55 PM
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Lol more projection, starting to get boring. So in addition to your fragility you lack the communication skills or creativity to do anything but deflect? I think both pills don't exist for anyone but grifters' benefit. Maybe you should change your flair to "too fragile for others' individuality, please treat me like I'm 5 years old because I definitely won't act any older"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:25 PM
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I do talk to women in person, you have to talk to women in order to be friends with them or maintain a poly triad with your lady fiance and girlfriend. 🤷‍♂️ You don't have to be a psychologist to be familiar with the boy band brand model lmfao, you really cope with being wrong poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:15 PM
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Nope. Just don’t believe liars. So apparently you think all men who are not you are liars. That's a very bigoted belief. If you believe people’s tale of “I don’t know what happened, she just called me short and small dick out of nowhere for no reason” then you’re just a fool. So do you call women liars when they say they were harrassed, insulted, or abused by men? If not, that also is a sign of bigotry. If you do... then you're bigoted against victims of both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:12 PM
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That's a lie, you are blaming and you lack the integrity to even acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:10 PM
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No, it just takes someone choosing to insult you. Why are you assuming everyone but men are perfectly mature and emotionally balanced?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:09 PM
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Absolutely. An example, is even in families that are pretty relaxed about gendered expectations, when you have a family gathering it’s normal for the men and boys to be watching TV, and the women and girls to be in the kitchen preparing food. ...what? That sounds dumb and horrible. How can you enjoy whatever you're watching while your wife is busting her ass? In all my years I've never seen this happen outside of poverty stricken communities in 2nd and 3rd world countries. Maybe I'm just lucky, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 04:56 PM
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I do not have to prove anything regarding false assumptions or words put in my mouth. What words did I put in your mouth? I asked direct questions. Positivity was not stated as the “end all be all”, nor did I ever state seeking this wellbeing should be faked or denied Can't you see how citing no alternatives to positivity can make it seem otherwise? It sounds like you have a lot to work through 🙄 ffs No, I never once said I am still bitter to women or that I'm dissatisfied with my life. The exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 04:41 PM
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For a man in that position, getting to a better place literally hinges on getting laid. 🤷‍♂️ So I guess they're just lost to the caprice of fate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:54 PM
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Every time I opened up to a woman I never once cried, so that is a lie. A functional and emotionally healthy person trusts their partner like I did when they said they need me to express vulnerability with them. So when, under pressure from them, I sat them down and talked about holding one of my best friends in my arms as he bled to death from multiple stab wounds - that was me trusting them to prioritize supporting me through expressing that and after. Instead, what they would do was some comb…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:50 PM
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Healthiest feminist right here fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:42 PM
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I just don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:41 PM
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You're a woman, you don't have any relevant experience of being a man who was pressured into being vulnerable by his intimate partner only for her to abuse or leave him for it. The only useful contribution you can make to this topic is describing women's side of the experience, or listening to men and letting us center our experiences in the discussion that is about us. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:40 PM
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Making up women to get mad at. Don't need to make them up, that's like 80% of my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:36 PM
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Snort. Men are not special, different little aliens Men are different from women lol, even their neurological activity maps differently for the same experiences and feelings. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5937254/ This doesn't make men 'special little aliens', it makes men physiologically, neurologically, and emotionally distinct from women. Which means what works for women may not work for men, and the only way we can figure out what works for men is by not lying to ourselves with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:31 PM
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Sure Men are not defective women, sorry. It's a learned skill and isn't gender specific. The specific method and perceived significance of emotional expression is not gender specific? You got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:07 PM
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“Not liking” the term toxic masculinity is where you already became biased on your opinion. Lol, so fragile. How can a semantic opinion be fair or unfair? The reason you think women do it more is because you take their comments more serious than other men. That's a projection lol, combined with an attempt to invalidate lived experience. She’s toxic when she has conservative values and calls men gay for being effeminate. Yeah. You're saying she isn't? The thing about opening up is something that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:05 PM
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Idk, it can actually backfire. I'm a very handsome, very muscular classically sexy guy. 6'2", 34" waist, 73" shoulders, jawline like a cliff overhang. Sometimes it feels like I can be more vulnerable because I am attractive enough, others it feels like my very manliness makes it so that others see my complex emotions or vulnerability as an unnatural paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:51 PM
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Rights are a result of everyone choosing to respect and enforce them, so literally yes the strangers you pass in the street who respect your rights are directly contributing to your ability to rely on those rights. Social norms and constructs are only as provided as they are normalized after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:46 PM
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How are you defining "toxic masculinity" in its entirety? Because the only example that is ever really a concern to y'all are those ubiquitous "I showed emotion and she got the ick" examples. How is that an example of toxic masculinity? That is an example of misandry: the man is punished for expressing 'unmanly' emotions in an 'unmanly" way specifically via emasculation inflicted by a woman he trusts, often the same woman who pressured him into expressing himself. That is misandry, it has nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:44 PM
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I think it’s a narrow view to see toxic masculinity being upheld by just men or just women. Good thing no one is saying that. Sure there are lots of women who uphold toxic masculinity ie, the mothers who expect their daughters to do chores but not their sons This happens?? I will say, based off the amount of men who very quickly open up to me and talk about personal things that they say they haven’t spoken to male friends about, a lot of men do seem to find it easier/less judgemental to open up …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:35 PM
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Never said it should be mindless Yet you gave no alternatives to false positivity. Rather, a healthy perspective takes quite a bit of work sometimes. It’s about much more than just positivity as well. Show, don't tell. If it is more than positivity, what is it? You’ll never be everyone’s cup of tea, and it’s okay to be disappointed or sad when it doesn’t work out. But you were just saying expressing those feelings makes others reject him, so obviously no they are not ok. But being comfortable wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:28 PM
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Acting bitterly expectant approaching dating because “it’s always something” comes across as very unattractive This just magnifies the harmful outcomes of a fundamentally un-empathetic dating environment. It doesn't help people who are suffering to tell them to just pretend they are not, it is actually deeply inhumane. Everyone is allowed to have preferences and they’re all different Actually, no. Women are allowed to have their preferences, men tend to get shamed for having any sexuality at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:57 PM
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A bunch of effeminate men that get women in their feels? Pop stars have to fulfill both fantasies for different demographics of women to become pop stars. It is the dichotomy of their 'good guy' features that appeal to the socially informed fantasies (well groomed, emotionally expressive), played in contrast to their 'bad boy' features (sexual conquest behavior, sex appeal, wealth, influence) which create the dialogues within women's social groups that fuel the star's rise to fame. If women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:53 PM
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Yeah but women view a loving relationship as the reward. That's what they say, but their actions speak differently. Many women also view sex as a positive thing to pursue for its own sake, and if seeking sex will pursue men who turn them on even if they cross boundaries or wave red flags. Men view sex as the reward. Some men do some of the time, but men also prioritize loving relationships too. Insisting there has to be this hardline separation of priorities between the sexes is simply counterfa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:44 PM
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You're just a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:58 AM
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You're the only one acting unlikable in this thread, AH. First you victim blame then you attack the people criticizing you for that as 'unlikeable'? Who cares who you like, you like to blame victims for being abused?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:57 AM
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That's bullshit. People verbally abuse others all the time, why assume it is only the victim's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 11:52 AM
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I largely agree. While there are some environments where men's pressure for 'masculinity' takes the lead, they're outnumbered by the environment's where the pressure is coming from women (because the latter includes the former). Liberalism is no defense against a woman losing attraction for a man who opens up. In my experience, the only women who stay emotionally invested and remain attracted after the man opens up are the women who went through severe trauma of their own AND experienced the aba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:10 PM
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Women generally don't want us men to try to be friends with them Sure they do. Tf? so it's up to us to act accordingly and listen to them. Suit yourself, I'll be chillin with the gals. Or get offline and live your life according to what YOU want. Stop letting internet poisoned shut ins shame you for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:54 PM
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Not as awesome as her telling him the kids are his, THT would be winning!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:45 PM
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A lot of us do, and it tends to work so long as you are attractive and aware of the role she wants you to play
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:43 PM
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In this TikTok, a woman explains to an initially skeptical male podcast host how "Nice guys always finish last" is false. Already think it's bullshit just cause of tiktok + windmillflowers Basically, now that she's 25 she is ready to settle down - she's ready for the nice guys, like her current boyfriend. So she already proved NGFL is true. Fucking wild lmfao She asked the podcast host, "Don't you want to wait for that girl (who is now ready to settle down)? Or do you want to be the douchebag th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:42 PM
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1 and 2 are just different ways of saying the same thing. 3 is impossible to sympathize with as a man because it's not like we enjoy rejection either, but we endure it because if we didn't there would be no people left. 4 is understandable in the abstract but I don't see why this is any more or less a concern for relationships where the guy approached either. 5 is just fucking rude. That's not men being dense, that's women being their own biggest obstacle. Communication is contingent on catering…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:49 PM
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Good post, solid morale boost
/r/EverydayMisandry19/10/24 03:23 PM
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Of course, but marraige is a sort of contract with its validity contingent on the compliance of all involved parties. If one side backs out it ceases to hold the same legitimacy. I guess I just don't have the sort of attachment which tolerates any degree of schism or disloyalty, I can't imagine living with someone who betrayed my trust. I can't imagine sleeping in the same building!
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:58 PM
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A marraige is just a contract between two people with a special name, if one person pulls out of the agreement the agreement ceases to hold any validity. But on top of that, why force someone to stay with you? Why subject yourself to that kind of resentment?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:54 PM
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... why would anyone want to stay with someone who doesn't want to stay?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:51 PM
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So... you would rather be stuck in the same building with the cheater who betrayed you? ... that sounds deeply unappealing in every way. Why bother?
/r/Divorce_Men19/10/24 01:48 PM
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It is extremely biased data, given how it is entirely paranoid speculation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:04 PM
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Because most of women's self proclaimed 'standards' are little more than shit tests to filter out the men dumb enough to allow someone else to (in this case) define their mental health for them, or devolve into a worm and still deserve their love, or compare men to predators without their partners breaking up with them. That's all. Dehumanizing men is IN, respecting men's humanity is OUT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:45 PM
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Got it. So there is even less of a point for men to go to therapy considering that it has such a high rate of being useless for men. https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/are-men-less-willing-to-engage-in-traditional-talking-therapy-because-therapy-has-been-feminised
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:42 PM
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How many of you would be less inclined to help a female stranger in trouble, than a male stranger? No difference. All your scenarios seem equivalent to me, a person is in need of help so I would at least see if I can help or find someone who knows what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:27 PM
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Calm your knickers I don't wear knickers, and if I did they would not be calm. I'm saying that your reading isn't the spirit with which it was clearly intended By now you should be realizing I am aware of this and never once cared. Now you're accusing me of wanting men to be abused? Since when is a question an accusation? You're turning water into wine here man. Then stop whining and get to wining, drink up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:23 PM
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You're taking the phrasing too literally Am I? Perhaps you're taking the phrasing too loosely. linking it to abuse was a little extreme. So do you think it is extreme for everyone to have and follow basic abuse avoidance standards, or just men? They're just inquiring about traits that you particularly value and are attracted to. Then they should have written that instead of what they did write. You want me to respond to a prompt that only exists in your imagination? I may be an incredible guy bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:58 PM
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Do you think most men would forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was a good girlfriend ? Lol, no Good girlfriends do not cheat. I had the controversial opinion that most men would be willing to forgive a cheating girlfriend if she was genuinely sorry and willing to sacrifice to make up for it. Seems like indulgent wishful thinking, but let's see the details. 1: Dating is hard for men, finding a girlfriend is especially hard Nah. What's hard is finding one worth keeping, or even worse - trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:04 PM
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None. "Instantly", what am I, a yellow lab puppy born yesterday? What wins me over is consistent compassion and generous grace over the long term. There is no 'short term' timeline for winning me over, let alone "instantly". Holding standards like that is how you get a partner who pivots into abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:13 PM
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Well you did say that No, I did not. I corrected you, since you were demanding evidence for another commentor's request for evidence from Lilith - which you treated as a positive claim instead of a demand for proof. We can all read that you are lying, why do you bother? All you are doing is validating me for calling you out. I really don't understand why you're getting so emotional, I'm as chill as the underside of my silk pillow, don't get tripped up over your own projections and things will ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:09 PM
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Lions tend to eat a zebra's liver first. Should it matter to the zebra whether the lion devours their liver first for the nutrition, or the taste? I find it is prudent to nip speculation in the bud when dealing with predators that use their prey's wonder as a smoke screen. Anything less is about as sensless as marching into a modern war with a red and white bullseye painted on your forehead. OP's ex is a person who preys on false hope and profligate pity. It is always a mistake to allow such a p…
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/24 03:59 PM
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That's Sharp for ya, she's only here to lie and fight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:18 PM
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Bad advice.
/r/Divorce_Men17/10/24 12:58 PM
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So you're agreeing with the first of my comments which you relpied to. Another lie. I would have said that if so. This is why I don't rake you seriously. Idc what a liar says they rake. I assume that's a devestating blow to your self esteem, seeing as the opinion of random reddit users is something you consider highly important Lol, on the contrary watching you unravel into a dissolute mess of bullshit has been supremely validating. I hope you learn to come to terms with it one day. Keep doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:51 PM
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Right, and there's no deception here. Displacing responsibility onto those who cannot be responsible is the lie. The burden of proof is on the positive claim, which is what you and Lilith are making. If you cannot prove women are the only human beings immune to lying, I will just assume any further arguments from you are just more lies. Occam's Razor demands nothing less. Maybe google definitions before you use words next time. Speak for yourself, I don't need to google what I have memorized. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:51 PM
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Are you on crack, or is English not your first language? That's not what the word "lie" means. No, I'm just better at English than you. A lie is an explicit rhetorical deception, displacing direct responsibility from the person it belongs to onto someone who is not responsible qualifies. Again, nice attempt at humour, but try to actuallu stay on topic. The topic is how you have earned my disregard. Deal with it. When you keep deflecting like that, it demonstrates that you don't actually have a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:19 PM
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Not to be technical but that is a relationship by definition Oh yeah, totally, and a dingo is no different from a regular dog. 🤣🤣🤣 Go on, let it play with your kids. It is technically a canine, just like an actually domesticated dog who won't devour your children alive while screaming. You'll figure out how much technicalities matter in the real world real quick! And as I said there is a specific type of man that most gold diggers go after Yeah, the type who trusts them when they lie. Keep on vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:43 AM
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Turns out for an abusive cult-like exploitative organization like a political party, denial is better for harnessing electoral power than valid and authentic hope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/24 01:17 AM
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A lot of people do exactly that lol sugar babies exist You think that is a relationship? Lmao that's buying a whore sis, you're talking about a sex worker not a partner! 🤣 The whole point of those is you don't have to bond with her or let her in your real house or introduce her to anyone or add her name to the will/life insurance/life milestone invitation list. She's a whore, you pay her in money so you don't have to invest with feelings. I've had sugar mommas and I wasn't dumb enough to think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:14 AM
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If you knowingly enter a superficial relationship you don’t deserve sympathy when it goes south Nobody does this. I just saw a video of a woman talking about how she left her husband when he was no longer rich. The interesting part is that she was honest from the beginning Lol, and you believe her? Hahahaha When the women you have made 'friends' tell others that they were honest about ruthlessly using you, and others believe them over you, by your own logic you wouldn't deserve any sympathy eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:49 AM
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Black men even being talked about in leftist discourse separately and without women somehow being leveraged onto a Higher Victim Pedestal is meaningful progress all on its own. The only reasons they are being discussed are: - to grease the gears of the blame machine should she fail - to shame black men into voting for her without making any coherent promises to win their vote In both cases black men are still being treated as less vulnerable and more disposable than women. This seems like an opt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:46 PM
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They were always going to do that, win or lose. They are already trying to pin the blame on black men before election day. Like, these are the Democrats, the same people who said Bernie was too white to win the 2016 DNC nomination only to 6 months later say that Bernie would have been too much of an open appeal to PoC to win the general. They all have make-work jobs at various political consultancy firms which depend on their ability to pass the burden of responsibility for their own policies an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:19 PM
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Lol, perhaps she is a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman in order to paint men in a negative light?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:25 PM
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It's a question that displaces the burden of proof from where it belongs, so it is actually just a type of lie. Thanks for serving as target practice, but try moving more next time. This was easy enough to be boring, I prefer a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:24 PM
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Nah, the claim isn't ridiculous at all. Every man has seen a woman lie, just like how every man has seen other men lie, just like women have seen men and women lie. Therefore the truth that women's actions do not universally and perfectly conform to their words is self evident. Every human being has sufficient experience with women to know that OP's claim is insanely dishonest, and that anyone claiming OP is telling the truth is necessarily lying too. I got sarcastic to mock you for feigning ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:04 PM
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Yeah, it was a bunch of baseless nonsense. What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:45 PM
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Yes, I am out her manifesting the gestalt consciousness of the entire human male population. Problem? You're saying you can't do the same for women? Sounds like a skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:43 PM
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Lilith is probably a man pretending to be a woman to portray women in a negative light Yes, that makes this post a projection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:38 PM
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Where is the evidence that nearly every man has witnessed this contradiction? Out here livin it right now lmao What, specifically, is the contradiction that you're claiming almost every man has witnessed? Lol, you think there is only one? "Love is love, no man is less of a man for being sexually attracted to men!" vs "I just learned that my husband of 20 years had a 2 week trist with a guy in college and I need to divorce him immediately" "Men should be strong enough to be vulnerable with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:36 PM
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Where? Where was this even the premise? Your title. If "watch what they do not what they say" was just about framing women in negative terms, then that necessarily means it is not a functional principle of learning about how trustworthy women are. And if that's the case, it can only be because there is no contradictions between women's words and actions due to the fact that the principle is nothing more than the imperative to watch said actions. Therefore, by just posting the title you posted, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:20 PM
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This isn't minimal progress though. Not if she delivers on these promises. She won't. Why believe she would when Dems never have before? Not destroying the lives of black men over fucking weed alone Trusting a literal prosecutor to do this seems like a good idea to you? Destroying the lives of black men over weed alone (while ignoring white collar crime) is how Harris started her career in politics. That didn't change when she grabbed the coattails of Joe I-Wrote-A-Bill-I-Called-"The Police Offi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:13 PM
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But it kinda just feels like they are trying to cover their ass after the controversy with Obama the other day Ding ding ding If this were a serious part of her campaign it would have been publicized months ago. This is too little and too late to be anything but damage control.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:05 PM
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In ten years they'll be patting themselves on the back for posting an agenda for "Affordable Voting" and Dem die hards will still cite it as proof that their hopes are not misplaced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:04 PM
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It is cool to see a political candidate have policies to improve the lives of some men These are not policies, this is just an agenda lol It's basically the Harris campaign's version of the lawn sign that says "In this house we believe love is love...etc." It doesn't mean anything until political capital is spent in pursuit of real legislation or at least executive orders, which depends on the candidate's earnestness. Given the fact that Harris' entire career started by prosecuting largely black…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:02 PM
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Lilith is the one claiming there is no contradiction between women's words and actions, without proof. Meanwhile practically every man has witnessed such contradictions, which is proof they exist. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:58 PM
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I want you to go back to your one line “or at least a desire for it” The line that is only coherent in a marketing and sales context, and not in a romantic context because it reduces everything into transactional terms? That line? What do you think dating and sex and lust are all about? It depends on the people engaging with it, since they're the ones pursuing their interests through dating etc. Some are looking for ltrs. Others are just looking to fuck. Others are looking to plaster over their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:11 PM
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You know the one thing people say about Sales and marketing “it ultimately boils down to relationships” of you and your customers have a great relationship you can build a successful long term partnership that’s beneficial for both of you. People say all sorts of immensely misguided and unrealistic things all the time, often due to the work of marketers. Sales and marketing ultimately boils down to having a product or service and others having a sufficient need or at least a desire for it which …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:58 PM
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That’s what I’m literally talking about “building your brand” Before reading your comments I couldn't think of a way to make dating even more bleakly depressing for guys. But making dating into a marketing gimmick? That would do it. Any guy who thinks like this and actually ends up in a relationship will be set up to believe that the deep intimacy and communication required to progressively develop that relationship are 'threats to the brand'. It's a recipe for inauthenticity. If some new Smartp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:44 PM
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Ironically, I got my first porn gig by delivering pizza to what turned out to be a live set whose male actor called out with an STI. Course they didn't just yank me in the door and start filming right then, but there was a direct causal chain of intending to deliver pizzas -> fucking a pair of pornstars. Also, they were sausage + pepperoni + mushroom pizzas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:56 PM
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So stay single then. You won't be missed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:48 PM
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Women SHOULD only aim to reproduce with the top 20% of men Hey, a eugenics post. Neat. Women SHOULD aim to only reproduce with the top 20% of men. Just by the fact that your first sentence repeats the title, I can already tell that the top 20% of men are not interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:17 PM
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Nah, that's what I am doing by blocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:17 AM
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Or your current sex lives with people outside the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:16 PM
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If a person is hurt because they got broken up with for deeply hurting their partner, good. They deserve it, I hope it drives them to become a person who is not a piece of shit. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:14 PM
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"Hey, I overheard you thoroughly emasculating me to your friends. You've completely demolished my privacy, trampled the boundaries I discussed with you at the start of all this, and if I stay with you one more minute I will not be able to respect myself. This is over." There, talked about it, and what can be done is breaking up. 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:12 PM
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Breaking up is addressing it like a grown adult. Adults are independent and only in a relationship because they want to be there, if they lose the desire the responsible thing to do is leave not pretend they still want to be with their soon-to-be-ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:10 PM
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So he's supposed to stay with a woman who he is no longer attracted to? That would be pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:09 PM
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If that term’s too loaded for you It's more like the term is too simplistic to be accurate or avoid bias. just call it rigid gender expectations While closer to the truth, why are they so rigid? men are the head of the family (e.g., they make decisions, we get our fathers’ names), but being the head means men must also be soldiers and protectors while women are weak and must be protected Yes, this is the classic fraudulent imperialist exchange: mortal peril taken on for the sake of the empire's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:31 PM
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We aren’t debating - you produced a straw man and demanded I defended it; No, I asked you to back up your claim and you could not cite a single example. We can all read the thread, no point to lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:05 AM
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Powers is the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development, so she has no control over domestic policy. Naive. I bet you think the CEO of Exxon is powerless over American foreign policy too lol The USAID is literally a front for the federal government, made specifically to fool people like you - because apparently that's all it takes for the gullible. Clinton hasn’t been Secretary of State for over a decade, and Rice for over a decade and a half. They are still women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:42 PM
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like what did she do? Did she write a book? What's her title? Is she know for some sort of famous feminist school of philosophy? She's the Fed's plant who worked her way into a position of near complete authority over the feminist movement back in the 60s, arguably for the sake of cleaving it from the Civil Rights and anti-war movements and directing the movement to make it into a machine of corporatist political interests. Like... any answer I give here no matter how informed or comprehensive i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:28 PM
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Lol what? Samantha Power has more power than most Senators. Clinton and Rice both had the power to start wars unilaterally, and they did. The fuck are you talking about "only one" lmao, even Steinem has more power than all but the top 100ish CEOs, certainly more than anyone in the House of Representatives. You still haven't answered my question because you cannot, and now you are pivoting to challenging the premise that these are women with real power. Hilariously inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:13 PM
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Yeah, she is essentially the queen architect of late 2nd wave feminism. It's funny how much you want to define feminism around your ignorance of the movement. Each one of those 130 names belongs to a person who does, and shall continue to forever, have infinitely more influence and authority over what feminism is than you ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:03 PM
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Gloria Steinem Samantha Powers Michelle Obama Condoleeza Rice Hillary Clinton I already know you cannot answer the question honestly, thanks for the chance to dance on your bad argument's tombstone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:01 PM
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Who is grieving those men? The people who know and care about them, hopefully. What a weird, pointless question. Women do NOT want this. Then where is the political campaign to stop it? This isn't misandry. What you're describing is the result of patriarchy. The fact that you think patriarchies cannot be misandristic is a very telling sounding of how shallow your understanding of this subject is. Patriarchies are, by nature, intrinsically misandristic. If we lived in a patriarchy today, we would…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:54 PM
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130 women is “all feminists”? They are 130 leading authorities and executive officers of feminist institutions and organizations. If they do not have any representative say over what feminism claims to believe, then it is not a coherent or functional ideology to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:26 PM
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What you’re describing is the other side of the coin. Let's name the coin: imperialism. These systemic bigotries can all be placed directly at the feat of the imperialist belief in peace being a product of the violent conquest of the entire world. Let’s not pretend the misandry you described and the misogyny the poster you’re responding to described aren’t part of the same system. Exactly. Both are tools used to divide and conquer populations of imperial subordinates. So long as every man is in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:24 PM
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I was hoping someone would bring up Fisher specifically, so I could then follow up with "How did that re-election campaign go?" While it would be idiotic to claim there are no sexist holdouts of classical misogyny in western power structures, the Manosphere specifically is a red herring relative to standard Christian indoctrination and is not even a drop in the bucket of scale compared to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:17 PM
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You said Manosphere people do the same to women, if that is true it should be easy to name human beings who: Have real power over the lives of others Subscribe to Manosphere frameworks/content/concepts Apply Manosphere material onto the unwilling/unwitting lives of those they have authority over If you can name those human beings, then you can say Manosphere types are doing the same thing without being correctly called out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:14 PM
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Name a Manosphere subscriber who runs a gender studies program at a university or holds an elected office.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:32 PM
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Include this link in the OP next time champ
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:31 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna56629
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:31 PM
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Please take into consideration that misandry makes men feel bad. No, it kills us. Please take into consideration the fact that minimizing misandry in this fashion is participating in it. Men die by suicide at 4x the rate of women and die of preventable workplace accidents 20x the rate of women, and nothing is done to change these statistics because of institutional and cultural misandry. Misogyny ends up with dead and tortured women and little girls. Misandry ends up with child soldier slaves an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:30 PM
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The starfish is the one who is bad in bed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:32 PM
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Men would rather take a girl who needs him than a girl who will take care of him No, men would prefer to be with a woman who does both. Yes they absolutely do. Most irl feminists are egalitarian Irrelevant. Most feminists are just using the label for social clout and take no action to back up their ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:29 PM
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Sorry trauma ICU nurse first 10 years of my career floated to ER never saw a man with his jaw broken by a woman saw lots and lots of women with their jaws broken by men. And less frequently men with their jaws broken by other men. This just in, the only way to abuse someone is to break their jaw. 🙄 Every time abused men come up I see you minimizing our suffering. Every time. You're not sorry, you are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:01 PM
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If you think ppl 100 years ago had 50, 70 even or even 100+ partners back then Do you actually think whores were invented in this decade? Every generation thinks it's the one which invented orgies and anal, and they're all wrong. Theres also been tons of news on man loneliness, is this also just a moral panic Yes. Not 'just' a moral panic either, moral panics are worse news than whatever the thing they are panicking over is. Men feeling lonlier and emasculated lately is a result of the moral pan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:52 PM
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It's more like: I understand the content of your reply, I just don't get why you think it is a coherent response to what I wrote. Discretion is not a lie of omission. When I tell sluts that discretion is their safest course of behavior, that means that they should use conscious and sober forethought on how they go about their slutting in order to be safe. That does not mean preventing others from learning information they need to know in order to make informed self interested choices (aka a 'lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:18 AM
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They increase the chances of there being incompatibility, DUH No, they don't. They may increase the chances of incompatibility ending the relationship, but the incomptibility was there prior to the relationship even starting and was only revealed by both people engaging in the relationship. So the only difference is that without sluts, some people may experience more pressure to stay in a relationship that is making them miserable. Which sounds like utter hell, so thanks sluts!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:07 PM
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How many people ARE partaking in hook-up culture and how many people are open to it or actively trying to participate are two completely different things None of this changes the fact that the current millenials through gen z generations are fucking less than any of their predecessors in the last 100 years. The media profits from moral panics, "hook up culture" is a perennial crop for them. Also thank you for gracing us with the cookie-cutter ignorant male take that is backed by zero life experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:57 PM
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They increase the male expectation for sex Nah, that's a constant that is not subject to externalities. and perpetuate hook-up culture and a hypersexual society. What 'hook up culture'? People are having less sex than the last 5 prior generations. Also, that isn't sluts doing that. That's advertising and marketing using sex to drive commercial revenue growth. Women are widely accepted as the gatekeepers of sex so I think it's fair they are more responsible for this than men are. Watch out lady s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:40 PM
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Women hate sluts more than men do Probably, sure seems that way. But actually, I'm showing support when I say I hate sluts. We have a common enemy. I also dislike them and I try to as much as you do. 'Enemy'? Lol, imagine how good life must be if sex positive people are your enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:35 PM
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Idk what you're talking about dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:33 PM
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How would men not "accept" this? Checking out of modern dating mostly, it's what I did for a while. Do you think that banning dating sites would make people not meet online? Do you ban all sorts of online interactions so that women can't meet other men? ... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:54 PM
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Lmfao, then gender roles don't exist to you? Ok, obtuse and incoherent. A role is just a set of normative expectations, nothing about conforming to it or not is involuntary or inevitable. In fact, both genders' roles are heavily defined by what choices both genders make and how they make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:44 PM
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Neither Obtuse it is then. You're just contradicting yourself. I just explained how I am not lol, clownery. If service isn't unique to either then ots not relevant to either. Lol bullshit. Service to others is an integral part of both gender roles, since it is a baseline necessity for quality parenting. No one can perform either gender role by refusing to exert any effort to impress and please the partner they want to attract, that's just called "being a selfish loser". Hell, gender roles themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:36 PM
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I think men should celebrate women's success and hype them up Ladies first. Alternatively, want your vanity indulged? Pay me. Why would I do it if I don't benefit? Should we celebrate Jeff Bezos too while we're at it? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:26 PM
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By describing service as a feminine role and then saying it's not That is not what I wrote, read again. I wrote that service is an aspect of the feminine role, it simply is not unique to the feminine role. It is not unique because it is also part of the masculine role too. Is English not your first language, or are you just being obtuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:17 PM
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Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts? Fuck no. I relate more to sluts than anyone else. Do you yourself hate them? No, I'd have to hate myself if I did. Or have you observed your male friends talking about their hatred for promiscuous women? Not really, maybe in highschool but not since. Is it limited to males who are unsuccessful with women? Just the sexually repressed religious types? I can't speak for every guy, but you don't have to be bad with women or repressed to feel that way. Some guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:10 PM
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You keep making claims without explaining them. Explain how you think I am contradicting yourself, and I'll explain how your user name is a misnomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:57 PM
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Then its not a feminine role, is it? It's a masculine role. Sure it is. Everyone serves, service to others is an intrinsic aspect of every gender role. This is just being arbitrary. It's just not an aspect unique to the feminine role, but it is still an aspect which inspires attraction in most men. Not objectifying, no. But definitely sexist. Women can make their own money. How is it sexist? It is not the assertion that men must be breadwinners, or that women must be dependants. It isn't even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:51 PM
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The idea that the feminine role is to serve is mysoginistic. Everybody serves, that's silly. Why would a person be in a relationship with someone who never does anything for them, who takes offense at the thought that they could or should do something for their partner? If a person doesn't want to exert effort to make another person happy, that's what being single is for. Yes it is. Explain how any gender role is necessarily objectifying and degrading. Is it objectifying for men to make money fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:35 PM
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Women aren’t that crude and reductive about male desires. Lmao, yes they are. Hell, they can get a lot more crude and reductive than "balls empty", this is just your lack of imagination combined with your lack of respect for women's capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:08 PM
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Women don’t say belly full and balls empty as what they want out of a partner The saying was coined by women lol, one woman even wrote a book about it: https://www.amazon.com/KEEPING-BELLY-FULL-BALLS-EMPTY-ebook/dp/B0BJKSH244 Anyways, that's all beside the point. Your misogyny isn't in the repeating of the saying "belly full and balls empty", or in whether the saying is said more by men or women. Your misogyny is in the assertion that providing the things that make men happy is necessarily degra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:05 PM
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Most people prefer people who want them, idk what the mystery is for you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:41 PM
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Skulls for the Social Ladder!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:19 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:16 PM
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Women’s main value to men are as are things and servants that provide sex and service — “belly full and balls empty”, as men like to say It's always sad to see women projecting their own misogyny onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:16 PM
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Just because those women don't exist or if they do, don't date guys below them doesn't mean that men can't desire women like that. Only an idiot wants what he cannot have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:13 PM
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Men like to be needed That is the influence of a patriarchal society. Not allowing a man to want people to take care of him That is not what was written. They wrote "men want to be needed", not "men don't want to be taken care of". You can be needed by someone who takes care of you, it isn't diametrically opposed. Feminists try to take this down but yeah... Lol no they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:12 PM
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The question shouldn't be "why do women want powerful men?" but instead it should be "why don't men want powerful women?" Both of these questions are presumptive and narrow minded. I argue that the criticism ... the most progressive women Blah blah blah, who cares. Cut to the chase. why don't men want the same? Who says we don't? Maybe your definition of 'powerful', as a self proclaimed 'beta male', is warped around your perception of and desire for physiological male power. Why don't the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:09 PM
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You don't have to stay or be their dad to be an interested adult party who provides unconditional warmth. You have to get 'unconditiona' warmth from somewhere to keep wanting to share it. They're the only defenseless interested party here So long as the man stays in her life he is defenseless too. Part of that is making sacrifices for the defenseless innocents around us No. Sure, but like real trauma You don't get to deny men's trauma and remain a neutral party in this. I'm a woman and in teachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:11 PM
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bro I don't spend my weekends on reddit lol That's my point yeah. It took you three days of peaceful contemplation to make this reply, yet it's still thoroughly uninteresting even as a troll. It actually is so boring it kind of flips it around, where the bordedom is too painful to not be at least somewhat interesting. I'd be impressed if you did it deliberately, but I know you didn't lol Just reminding you you're a little toxic strawmanning liar You left the projector on again, yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah whatever man enjoy the day “untamed Italian” I am, thanks! Back at you! It’s not naive at all it’s reality and I’ve seen it play out before. No, it is naive idealism to expect that relationships in real life will - or even can - be completely abstracted and compartmentalized associations that are not influenced at all by externalities. That is, by definition, an idealistic fantasy that reality cannot accomodate. Which makes it naive, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:58 PM
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Yeah fuck off with that condescending tone. Turn your projector off please, you are being misled by your insecurities. I don’t give a fuck about what you wrote Yeah, based on how you're just replying to writing you seem to have made up entirely yourself - I already sussed this fact out a comment ago. Thanks for confirming that though. The relationship between man and child he raised is—I believe—completely separate from what goes on between romantic partners. That's naively idealistic. Look, all…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:22 PM
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OP clearly stated "physical violence." Which threats definitely can qualify as, yes I can read. 🙄 "But I still want you as my dad, I don't care if we're not biologically related." "And I wanted to have a happy family with you in it too, but your mom decided to weaponize you against me instead. So let this be a life lesson: getting what you think you want is not always a good thing, and sometimes the right thing to do is just the choice that makes the fewest decent people the least hurt." Still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:18 PM
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And this is why people don’t take men seriously as parents. The reason for that is just ingrained misandristic sexism. Duh. Yall claim to do this that and the third and then abandon children yall have raised for years, I've never abandoned a child. Wtf are you smoking. treating them like burdens and inconveniences. Nah, we're past that. A man leaving a paternity fraud case is treating the child like the weapon it was turned into to be used against him. If you want men to stick with children they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:10 PM
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No if you’re an adult and you choose to stop having a relationship with a child you have spent time raising into adulthood that is your choice at that point Do you know what "contingent" means? I never said it is not his choice, I wrote the choice is his twice. Go back and read it again. I said his choice is contingent on her fraud. His need to make a decision would never have existed if she did not choose to fraud him. A man can be as mad at the mother as he wants as he should —but severing tie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:55 PM
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Yes actually that's not the gotcha that you think it is. I was agreeing with you. Since when is that a gotcha? Its also why most progressives want a functioning welfare system so that the negative impacts are minimized. They should aim higher and stop negotiating with the liberals who just want to triangulate with the GOP against the public's interests. Good medical and healthcare systems means that people don't die in the street because I'm not willing to give out organ donations. And a robust …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:39 PM
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It took you all weekend to come up with this? Was better off without a reply. I love men, I love my boyfriend, I love my brother, I love dudes in general. you don't know what I've done for the men in my family and extended family. I I do not care. I just hate toxic manosphere men, not all men. You're the one with the issues. don't project You're the one conflating any men's movement with the manosphere, take your projection back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:36 PM
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Not so much "ignore" as "allow it to fester into politically and economically exploitable sexual polarization"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 09:33 PM
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I don't think that anybody with a reasonable mind is going to disagree with you here. Yeah the comments proved this very true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:29 PM
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If the kid is mine I'd gladly work for its interests for free. That's why cheating women hurt these kids, they are the ones who denied those poor kids any chance for a real dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:23 PM
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They should be the bigger person for the sake of the child. By telling the child the truth and giving the child a role model of a self actualized and morally aware adult, the man is a bigger person by leaving than the mom ever could be. The child didn’t do anything. Neither did the man. It’s disgusting to abandon them. That’s way worse than cheating. It's the consequence of the mother's crime, so the disgust should be for the criminals who do this to men and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:21 PM
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Rejecting the child so callously isn't good behavior (note, I'm not saying he should financially do anything for the child, he shouldn't). Who said anything about being callous about it? Take half an hour to explain it to them, assure them they are not to blame, and tell them that you cannot stay because you cannot be the dad they deserve if you do. I think continued communication is in the best interests of the child They're not the only interested party in this situation. nd like it or not, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:15 PM
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Screaming death and rape threats: Threats qualify as a form of violence in every legal framework I've witnessed. I'm just curious how many of these dudes who are so cavalier about abandoning children would inform their children that their father's love is contingent on something they have no control over. "Your mom lied, and it broke my ability to be your dad. It is not your fault, it is your mom's fault for cheating and lying. Make no mistake, I don't resent you - but I have to leave because if…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:01 PM
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There might be consequences though, like family members continuing to have a relationship with the kid and choosing the child over you Oh no, people who tolerate cheating criminals are doing things without me! or your other children who are biologically yours going cold to you because now they know that years of raising them doesn’t mean anything to you unless they have your genes. Hahahahaha This is such a desperate, flailing attempt at emotional manipulation. Children are infamous for rejectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:50 PM
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Telling the truth is more virtuous than living a lie no matter how painful it is. It is also infinitely more respect than what the lying mom gave the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:47 PM
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She should own up to her actions. By doing the responsible thing and having an abortion. A paternity fraud victim who’s been a part of the child’s life for years shouldn’t abandon them. Cool, so dooming the child to grow up in an environment of resentment and hatred is the moral option? How is that taking any responsibility? The child's father is the secret the mom is keeping, she is the reason why the kid has no real dad and the reason why the man has no real child or partner. She should own up…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:44 PM
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The embryo has not emotional attachment to the mother it doesn't even have a brain. Sure. That's totally different to abandoning a person who thought of you as dad, built memories with you and is emotionally dependent on you. But not enough of a difference to make it wrong to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:33 PM
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And leaving a relationship - and everything made by it - that was nothing but a fraud is taking responsibility for your own self defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:32 PM
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I would hold respect for a man who acknowledges he’s not the father and wants distance but also has the emotional bandwidth and maturity to recognize that children are affected and take that into consideration. Ok, if this ever happens to me I promise I would take that into consideration. I would still leave, but I'd leave a message for the kid explaining why and that it is not their fault. Maybe by visiting or maintaining a relationship as a close adult, but not the father. No, the truth is con…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:30 PM
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Cool. So leaving a paternity fraud case locked out of your property forever is the consequence of being victimized by paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:25 PM
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but severing a relationship with another person is at that point completely his decision and independent of the mother. It's his decision, but if it were not for the mom's lies he would not make that decision. So it is not at all independent of her, his choice to leave was entirely contingent on her choice to paternity fraud him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:23 PM
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Delete the rest of your account while you're busy cleaning up this subreddit. Thanks 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:20 PM
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Ah, so similarly if a man leaves a cheating liar who paternity frauded him, and she and the kid dies because they depended on using him, it is sad and unfortunate but the man is still right. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:18 PM
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I'm not familiar with that content and I don't trust anyone who is. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:38 PM
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The actual reason for the vast majority of prison sentence is cheap labor, it has little to do with the crime's severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:36 PM
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What if, at the 1 min 45 second mark, she hits you? What then Mr. Manners? Are you sticking around for a few more hours?
/r/EverydayMisandry06/10/24 06:05 PM
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This is such a ludicrous self-own on her part. The fact that he left within 2 min hangs over her 'effort' and her looks like a thundercloud, leaving me wondering wtf she had to do to repel him so strongly.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/10/24 06:02 PM
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A sapient being regardless of it's makeup has the right to make it's own choice Has the ability to make its own choice. It *should have the right as well, but rights are contingent on their enforcement. Rights can only be inalienable in the idealistic abstract. Otherwise agree, a robot lacking any true cognition and awareness is not an entity. Might as well grant legal personhood to our mirror's reflections of ourselves if we're going to give it to sequence prediction toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 05:58 PM
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Your opinion is completely irrelevant. You are not those men and you cannot speak for them, all end up doing by trying is lying about them to rationalize your contempt for them. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:38 PM
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Imagine thinking sex is only about the physical act and not the emotional connection the physical act creates. Sounds like a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:30 PM
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Women cannot relate to losing their will to live due to lack of sex They don't have to acheive perfect awareness of it to at least accept that it is life ruining for men and show some empathy. Expecting men to cater their suffering to only what women can relate to is as insane as it is inhumane. And it is completely insane. If your issues were phrased mentioning the former rather than the latter then it would decrease the empathy gap between the genders and lead to more compassion. No, it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:29 PM
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I find that deeply offensive to people who don't have access to clean drinking water or food If you're not one of those people I find your projection of your offense onto them irrelevant. Sex directly correlates with procreation, birth control is a very recent thing. Sex = Pass on genes and procreate. If it was a NEED then you'd also be saying it's a need for everyone to procreate. Sex for human beings is not just about procreation, it's about forming and preserving emotional and social bonds wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:12 PM
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Too many men conflate sexual frustration with depression Written by a woman, because of course. Who else would lack the empathy required to avoid writing this. It seems certain men confuse being sexually frustrated with depression. Which men? However claiming sex is a need and you have lack of will to live without it is melodramatic at best and hints to a much deeper issue than simply sexual frustration at worst That seems remarkably callous and presumptive. Sex is part of the Hierarchy of Needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:59 PM
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I am not impressed by your hatred for men. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:13 PM
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They are both phrases that are said without literally meaning what they say. This simply is not true. The examples of women who claim to believe "men are trash" is true are ubiquitous, and the examples of those who defend the phrase with the classical Bigot's Disclaimer we saw above are even more numerous. Since the intent of the coiners was to draw attention by offending, it seems explicitly dishonest to claim the offensive literal interpretation is invalid. See, you keep reading what you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:08 PM
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If you are already rejection sensitive? The only way to reduce the pain is to avoid it afaik, exposure therapy can make you less afraid of it but it will absolutely not affect the pain at all. The important thing to take away from all this is: while avoiding rejection will reduce the total pain you experience from rejection it absolutely will make your overall situation worse the more you rely on it. You will end up isolated and alone, which will drastically intensify the pain you experience for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:05 PM
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It's just the trigger you need to rationalize your crybully crap lol. That's why you don't deserve the answers to your questions.💅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:22 PM
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Where did it say I put in so much effort? The part where you obsessed over your reputation as Mr. Nice Guy, and repeatedly emphasized that your intent is to prove your reputation is valid with your words and actions. Lol And good, show the people exactly what kind of person doesn’t like women to expect nice I don't care if women "expect nice" or not lol, it doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:06 PM
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They are both turns of phrase, yes. That isn't an equivocation because they do mean different things, but they are used in language the same way. If they were used the same way, "men are trash" would be ironically stated before dates to mislead any bad luck/karma away from the person going on the date. Instead, the term is used to try to offend men into rethinking their concept of masculinity, but usually only ends up offending men. Almost like offending a person makes them less inclined to list…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:44 PM
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Cutting to the truth of the matter is better than indulging dumb leading questions. Ask better questions if you want the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:28 PM
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Lol, way to shoot raw cocaine straight into my ego dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:23 PM
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Thank you. Best relationships in my life all started with them asking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:20 PM
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Being lonely is better than the results of cold approaches lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:18 PM
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Basic manners teach children not to ignore people in a social setting, Got it, so whenever ladies ignore a guy they're being rude. Thanks Sharp!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:17 PM
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The only way to avoid losses from gambling is to avoid gambling. Aka: if rejection is a big deal for you (no judgement, rejection sensitive dysphoria is involuntary), then cold approaches are going to hurt a lot practically every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:11 PM
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And those words and actions were “what I was about” not just “well I’m a nice guy”. Then why put so much effort into proving you are a Nice Guy? See, I don't have this problem because I am absolutely not a nice person. I am a generous friend and lover, but I'm blunt and direct not nice. Who doesn’t think that? Me, and my friends for starters. Be more than “most dudes” Wayyy ahead of you lol This whole “well I had to be an asshole” trope is bullshit "Had to be an asshole"? Lol, no I just am not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:06 PM
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I think I'm certain you've heard this a lot before, but you thought wrong. Lol you know your friends are gonna give you the goods about a person because that’s what friends do. It's not what my friends do. If you want to pretend otherwise just to pretend you aren't wrong, have fun being wrong. if they got nothing special to say about the person: it’s cause they aren’t special. No, it's because it is a blind date and hints kill the suspense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:59 PM
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It isn't. Look up the origins of the phrase. I did. The hashtag originated from South African twitter activists to highlight widespread gender-based-violence in that country. It never was intended to refer specifically to dating, it was actually intended to be an offensive trigger under the premise that it would make men reflect more on their behavior and pursue a deeper understanding of their own masculinity. So even according to the folks who made the hashtag, it was always meant to be offensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:55 PM
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I love how many excuses dudes are trying to make to avoid the obvious common sense. They are direct answers to your questions, not excuses lol. Why ask the question in the first place if you were never looking for the honest answer? No one said “it’s only one way always” it was literally “this is the basic expectations” And I am contradicting you: there are no basic expectations. In fact in my experience the more I expected the more disappointed I got, the less I expected the more happily surpri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:25 PM
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you really think dudes aren’t gonna tell their bro that the warm approach is practically being called in?? That's very different from sharing explicit details about her personal sexual proclivities, which I see as a violation of her privacy and beneath the dignity of anyone I want as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:22 PM
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Nothing about Ellie's comment says men are universally evolved to react with violence, Mr. Literal Definitions. You're adding those words on your own. The very claim that men would react to women no longer oppressing them with widespread violence against women necessitates that premise lol. Just begging for special exceptions for women to make bioessentialist claims about men. That's all you're doing, bigotry apologetics. Nothing about my comment says that men should have empathy for women who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:19 PM
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Lol, "men are trash" is a traditionally misandrist bigot idiom, that's why it isn't equivalent. It's a prejudicial generalization, not an ironic reference to luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:09 PM
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Would you expect a date to be able to speak the same language as you? Not necessarily no. I've dated through hard language barriers before, there are more ways to communicate than language. Would have expect her to eat a meal on a dinner date? Yes? Not necessarily, no. I've been on dates where they meet me as I am finishing up dinner somewhere before we go somewhere more fun. Generally, I've found the less I expect the more fun happens. Well so is “being nice” it’s expected that a guy is going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:04 PM
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Ok but if that’s all your bro is saying do you really think she’s got a lot more going on. Who cares. Like if she was hot you know he probably would have lead with that None of my buds would. Do you have any guy friends? This would be weird to hear from any of mine. If she was into the sand stuff as you, you know your bro would be excited to let you know. Sand stuff? You mean same stuff? Again, this would be weird to hear. A blind date is all about figuring out who the other person is during the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:59 PM
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It doesn't seem like you have an answer. It doesn't seem like you are very perceptive, or honest. Perhaps both. Do you think when someone tells you to break a leg, they mean it literally? It depends on the context. If I am running drills in boot camp and a rival I know loathes me said it, then yes. They probably mean it literally. Or if I am in a soccer match and someone says that while doing a double leg slide tackle from behind, I would have every reason to press criminal charges for assault a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:16 PM
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Ellie said: "I don't see it this way. If men were oppressed the way women are and have been for the majority of humanity they'd become violent and way worse than women are currently at their first sign of comeuppance." Then you replied: "Then men should have the empathy to understand why women today get so defensive over what little power we've managed to achieve." So you replied to a woman who believes that men are universally evolved to react to losing the burden of oppression with widespread …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:08 PM
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LOL you_just_activated_my_trap_card.gif Your flailing attempts to insult me are only relevant to the topic at hand in that they demonstrate how you yourself are reflexively habituated to attack and abuse a man you cannot refute honestly. Thus it is easy to conclude you are so invested in defending abusive women, because you yourself know you are one too. I ignored it under the hypothesis that doing so would trigger your narcissism. Looks like I was correct, yet again. Thanks for playing the role…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:30 PM
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I'm open to hearing non-misogynists and normal men about this issues. Guys who are actually going to organize and plan and do stuff about them. not ONLY use it as an excuse to shit on women. If you stop making the men's movement all about yourself for a second, you'll quickly realize that this is just dishonest smearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:25 PM
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I'm not arguing to tolerate the hatred of men. You literally wrote that the same men who face misandrist abuse are the ones who gaslight women and proliferate misogyny. "But the same men gaslight women on any of the challenges unique to women, and they tolerate women hating, bashing, and many advocate for abusing and mistreating women. A huge chunk of the MRA crowd are misogynists." This is rhetoric which cannot do anything but stoke more misandry and normalize the tolerance of misandry. So you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:24 PM
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No, I'm not going to answer your loaded, bad faith questions that have nothing to do with my comments. That's a lie. They are a direct response to your comment that men should have empathy for women who abuse us. I disagree with you that women are mens' abusers. I didn't say all women abuse men. I was talking about the specific women who abuse men. This is a great example of the dysfunctionality of people who think refusing to use the literal interpretation of words makes them more competent at …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:04 PM
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"men are trash" had nothing to do with the conversation before you brought it up. It is an example of the kind of abuse men deal with, it is relevant to the topic whether you say so or not. Do you dismiss all disagreement as just bias? No, just the ones where one person is arguing out of visible bias. Like you are. My guy, if you think literal interpretations of phrases cannot be wrong, you must really struggle getting through life Not at all actually. Such interpretations are very useful for le…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:30 PM
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Women start refusing to open their legs to those men and they're breed out society. Do you really think criminality is a gene?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:24 PM
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I have a high T count and I have never once committed any of these crimes. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:23 PM
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What do we do about the fact that men are drastically overrepresented as murderers, rapists, and criminals? Find ways to support men so that we can at least cut the crimes of necessity/ignorance/insanity out of those statistics as much as possible. In 2023, men accounted for at least 67% of homicides, 84% of rapes, and 68% of all violent offenses. All of them on the official record books anyway. We all know that men are far more likely to commit these crimes. But how do we combat this reality? Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:22 PM
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Women can use guns they can’t kill men yet they don’t. Women absolutely kill men, wtf. A woman tried to murder me for rejecting her, you're just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:58 PM
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No distinguishing degree of injury Women are fully capable of injuring or killing a man. Wtf. Being stabbed having your jaw wired shut are not quite the same as slapping a man. Obviously. But a woman stabbing a man is very much the same as vice versa, or a woman driving a vehicle into and repeatedly over a man's body is very much the same as vice versa. The immediate assumption that men are invariably capable of inflicting severe injuries while women are not is sexual prejudice. It is Duluth Mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:50 PM
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It's like being born in an insanely rich family and be a millionaire and having people "liking" you because you are rich. It doesn't mean a thing and it is lonely. Correct: it is a form of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:09 PM
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You really haven't asked me many clarifying questions. After the first five went unanswered, why would I? These are called loaded questions, because they contain assumptions about my opinion that you haven't verified. 🙄🙄🙄 So you're still not going to answer them. I've assumed nothing about your opinion, but rather expressed my point of view. Not surprised you're trying to invalidate me for it, it is the consistent reaction I've come to expect from those who minimize men's grievances. To use the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:03 PM
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Pubs are 52% men and 46% women BTW so not 50/50. That's roughly half lmao, come tf on If the majority of the public is pro choice but red states are pro life with men doing the legislation men are restricting women’s access to healthcare No, that's red states not men as a collective. Those are two separate things. Women hit men and should go to jail if they do but "But" Not serious, just here to invalidate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:38 PM
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I assume you're talking about me because you're responding to me and referring to me with personal pronouns Look again: "That's what saying men are trash is, abuse by category against men for being born male." Point out the personal pronouns. My writing is flawless, read better. I think your interpretation of "men are trash" is wrong, yes. This just further proves your bias. The literal interpretation of 'men are trash' cannot be wrong. I think your view is extremely hysteric tbh. Hyperbole out …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:32 PM
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No, I first asked you a series of clarifying questions. You ignored every single one of them, so I did ask for clarification and in response you invalidated my experiences as a man. Making this: Rather than ask me for clarification, or trying to confirm my views, you wildly assumed and then spiraled from there. A fucking LIE. A lie which anyone capable of scrolling up can see is a lie. engage with me like a normal person. I have, and you are basically calling me crazy for doing so. Thank you for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:09 PM
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You keep ascribing things to me that I haven't said. No, I don't. You keep reading the things I've seen many, many women say to men and assume I am talking about you. I never said you said "Men are trash", I used it as an example of how women abuse men just for being born men. You're either terrible at reading, or trolling in bad faith, or you are getting defensive because you yourself say things like "men are trash". Which is it? "Men are trash" is a saying about the common problems of dating m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:03 PM
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Having empathy is not toxic. You are not asking for actual empathy. You are asking for women's hatred of men to be ignored, for men to tolerate abuse. Empathy is not a part of any of this, just victim blaming and the expectation that men's feelings should never matter. There is nothing empathetic about a man ignoring his pain and tolerating abuse. That's called "enablement" not empathy. Do better. Nowhere did I suggest that men should ignore their mistreatment. They should absolutely be discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:57 PM
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That's what saying men are trash is, abuse by category against men for being born male. Your blunt denial only proves your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:45 PM
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The left is the one who pushed states to be automatic 50/50 in custody court systems (which most states are) They have pushed for women to be drafted like men and for women to be financially independent They're also the ones which instituted the Duluth Model. Also, women's financial independence objectively harmed men. Not only is there increased competition for the same jobs, but the primary traditional means of a man earning a wife and family is now obsolete - with nothing set up to replace it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:25 PM
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There arent many unique to men other than the draft This is just a lie. Men die of preventable workplace accidents 20x more than women. The Duluth Model. The massive suicide discrepancy. The massive prison sentencing discrepancy. The overwhelming majority of police's extrajudicial executions are male. The gender bias in education. And the obvious, systemic scale toelerance for misandrist abuse and violence against men. But because these things only impact men you feel ok with ignoring them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:15 PM
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Yeah, but not for the reasons you think lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:10 PM
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I agree men face some challenges disproportionately and uniquely. But the same men gaslight women This is a bullshit strawman, designed to automatically invalidate any man with complaints about prejudicial treatment for being a man. "Oh don't listen to him, he probably gaslights women", bullshit. and they tolerate women hating, bashing, and many advocate for abusing and mistreating women. No. This is just lying about men who voice their grievances in order to rationalize ignoring those men. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:08 PM
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I can see why you're still single. Go back to your 2X hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:59 PM
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You literally said it is up to men to empathize with the women who abuse us for being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:57 PM
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Why is it always on men to ignore how women's hatred and bias hurts us? Can't you see that you are demanding men perform the same toxic roles that feminism is always complaining about? You cannot demand that men become more emotionally mature and aware while also demanding men shut up and ignore how women's mistreatment of us makes us feel. When is it on women to show empathy? When there is a 90/10 gender gap in college admissions favoring women? Why should men help a movement that is dedicated …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:56 PM
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Nope men are the ones who want to outlaw abortion. Women want abortions. It’s men making decisions for women. Half the GOP's voting base are women lol, this is just a lie. More white women voted for Trump in 2016 than against him ffs. You can’t force women to kill themselves. We’re working full time men have to step up at home. I don't see how this is a good faith response to anything the prior commentor wrote. Functionally men got away with domestic violence don’t even pretend they didn’t. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:46 PM
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If men were oppressed the way women are What good would that do? Men make better cannon fodder and child soldiers than housekeeping laborers. Do you really think the only form of oppression that exists is the way women were oppressed? they'd become violent and way worse than women are currently at their first sign of comeuppance That's a non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:37 PM
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Men are told not to hit on people who are busy No. Men are told we are trash, that we are not needed or wanted, and that women would rather a wild bear approach her at the bottom of the stairs than a man. This is the world women demanded. No person on the planet would tell a dude to ignore a severely injured women (or other man for that matter) As cpr/em trained former volunteer, I have absolutely told people to pass on by severely injured patients. The severely injured ones are the ones most li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:27 PM
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The 'target audience' is the class of imbedded financial backers who just want to see time worn archetypes in profitably bland stories, all to facilitate de facto money laundering. When you start seeing media production companies as the Weinstein corporate tyrannies they are, a lot more of their 'creative' decisions become more legible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:15 PM
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Uh huh, seen this rerun before. Bullies always have thin skin
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:38 PM
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well excuse me for not wanting to micromanage my partner like they are a child. You're talking to me here, not your partner. If you find this confusing, stop talking to me and talk to a doctor. If you like telling people what to do because that gives you some kind of power trip that's on you. You keep making these very revealing assumptive projections lmao, thanks for describing your flaws to me I guess. I'm the head of my household because everyone turns to me for structure, guidance, and posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:11 PM
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Lmao, no you just feel triggered by a man who expresses self respect and satisfaction with the fruits of his sacrifices. Find someone who is actually weak to bully, all you're doing with me is making me think less of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:49 PM
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TLDR = This is too Literate, i Can't Read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:59 PM
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I don't live alone, and I'm the head of my household who keeps everyone on task. Outside of jobs no one has told me what to do since I graduated college. Maybe if you actually took the time to talk with folks like they are human beings instead of making all these wierd ass assumptions, you would alienate fewer people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:57 PM
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I know what the phrase means. You keep demonstrating that you don't lol I was just pointing out the irony in calling someone out for passing the buck when you’re doing the exact same thing by passing the question off to someone else to avoid answering it yourself. I didn't pass the question off to anyone. What I did was reject the question entirely by saying that the person asking it in the first place - instead of cleaning the gutters YOU want cleaned so badly - is passing the buck. Why are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:53 PM
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Expecting society to bow down and kiss your ass I don't expect that. Most members of society don't brush their teeth enough to kiss my ass. Fucking gross, keep your fantasies to yourself. because you do the job you’ve chosen to do makes you a bully. Hahahahahahaha Oh yeah, upgrading senior's residential electrical outlets to take 3 pronged plugs (which almost all medical appliances require) at cost or for free = being a bully. Rebuilding a soup kitchen's uphill facing foundation to stop semi-rou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:38 PM
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My mom has been dead for decades kid. Classic "forever alone" response.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:30 PM
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Um, the person who is spending time telling others of a task they want done instead of doing it themselves is passing the buck. That's what the phrase means. Unless the guy explicitly agreed the gutters are his job, telling him about the gutters instead of doing anything about the gutters is passing the buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:26 PM
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Ask the person who decided that passing the buck on the job was all she was going to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:40 PM
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Lol, what? Who tf learns to read at school. I was taught by my dad reading bedtime stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:38 PM
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Two decades of plumbing, masonry, and basic electrical work. Did a lot of maintenance and problem solving jobs either at cost or for free too, especially for older folks on fixed incomes or for charity organizations who already had enough problems. But there are plenty of men less generous than me who would cost society dearly if they just stopped going into work, work that kills them 20x more often than women. Refusing to recognize that as critically necessary to enjoy the quality of life you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:37 PM
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Trash is common and much more urgent chore dedicated to men Lol, what? Not in my house. Why is this gendered to you? If wife informs her guy that trash is full she shouldn't have to plead with him to also do his task. If she adds that it's urgent it also shouldn't take 2-3 business days. At some point the nagging is more work than just doing it herself. Ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:32 PM
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Right, she's an adult who could have cleaned the gutters in the time it took to mention it 52k times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:29 PM
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No, it's still granting hyperagency to men and hypoagency to women and thus is still peddling the same tired, broken, obsolete gender roles that are driving more and more men to self annihilation. The solution is always men have to work harder, sacrifice more, and ignore their own emotions and instincts - all for the chance of being acknowledged as a human being with needs who deserves happiness. The western concept of a man has been revealed to be nothing more than a confidence scam, a fraudule…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:14 PM
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Most Men accept anything Pffft, the fuck we do. Here we are rejecting you sis. Especially to women who want an assertive man, do not select against these traits. I am an assertive man, the best and longest lasting partners I've had both approached me and both are still going strong. Why? Because I saw my own assertiveness in them, and respected them more for it. Had they listened to your advice they would be a lot worse off for it. Maybe you should keep it to yourself if you actually want to hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:04 PM
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If you don't believe the sexes are equal, why have legal equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:00 PM
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Did you forget that your account is labelled as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:58 PM
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You just said in another comment that nothing can fix struggling men. Make up your mind, or at least admit you are entirely out of your depth and have nothing coherent or helpful to offer men. You just want to blame men for how women treat them. Edited to add: I think they’re a lost cause because of their mindset. That's just victim blaming, their 'mindset' is a product of their struggles and suffering. You can be fixed Do away with the 'fixing' terminology to begin with. Declaring men are broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:57 PM
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Because advice alone does not provide success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:55 PM
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Niceness doesn't work, period. Niceness is pleasant but it is not erotic or arousing. It doesn't disqualify a guy from becoming a sexual partner eventually, IF the guy makes a point to politely and frequently express his sexuality and interest in the woman and if she is open to him. But it doesn't open any legs that were already closed, and it doesn't get a guy any closer to the finish line let alone past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:51 PM
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This is just not true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:45 PM
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Someday you'll understand that this isn't a threat with any teeth lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:44 PM
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The comments in your first link are depressing as hell, shit. Why? Women do like to be degraded. It's more nuanced and complex than that. Many women, not all, find the thought of being degraded by an attractive-enough man really sexually arousing. Whether or not they like that thought in the abstract is a whole separate matter. Or alternatively, they need to frame sex and sexuality in terms of objectification or degradation to feel aroused by it. It's like how a CSGO player can be presented with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:01 PM
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I know plenty of self respecting women who demand to be treated like I treat women in porn, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:51 PM
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Porn Is The Main Destroyer Of Modern Sexuality Pffft lmao, not even close. Trying to convince a young man who consumes porn daily that being kind and loving will lead to a romantic relationship and eventually sex is difficult because porn portrays the opposite No. It is difficult to convince men this is true because it is not true at all. Porn often features attractive men having sex with multiple women in the most demeaning and disrespectful ways, leading him to believe that this is what attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:50 PM
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I'm saying your anecdotal evidence is proof of your bias and nothing else. Get lost already, bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:17 PM
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Why do you keep putting "men don't say that" in quotes when I never wrote those words? That is a lie. And yes, all you have brought to the table are lies and anecdotes, none of which represent men. If this is the best you can do, bother someone else with your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:02 PM
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No the goalposts haven't moved. My position remains "You do not speak for men and I don't care about your anecdotes". Got anything better than lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:37 PM
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No, I deny its relevance. Your confirmation bias is not proof of anything, and social media posts are just anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:33 PM
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This is just your confirmation bias, not an actual argument of any substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:17 PM
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No it isn’t. Yeah it is. Denial doesn't change how you don't know how men think because you are not a man. That’s literally how men think Because you are not a man, this is a self evident lie. Any time I see a woman saying “don’t settle for the guy who treats you poorly” on social media, men come out and say all the woman deserves is poor treatment. No, they say good treatment has to be reciprocal. Also, if you are defining men based only on social media you need to get out more lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:48 PM
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I see what you're saying, blaming men alone is inaccurate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:24 PM
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The people that live in the society care about the society Never seen any of those before. Have you been appointed to speak on behalf of males who are eschewing marriage? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:23 PM
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Nah, that's a projection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:22 PM
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So why are men getting blamed for walking away from marraige?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:53 PM
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I would assume the people who live in the society care about whether it's a good society or not If society wants more men to opt in, society needs to make itself a viable option for men. If men opt out it is because society failed to appeal to them. That doesn't mean men don't care whether society is good or bad, if they didn't care they would not opt out. Ultimately the more you treat men like confused children or disobedient pets or defective toys, the more men will opt out. If you want men to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:39 PM
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Besides, men walking away from marriage is an incel cope. It holds no connection to reality Marraige rates have dropped dramatically over the last half century. What exactly is the cope? https://www.axios.com/2023/02/25/marriage-declining-single-dating-taxes-relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:30 PM
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Selfishness? So you admit it is in men's best interests to avoid marraige! We're done here, pack it up, your mind has been changed. I assume men want to live in a better society Yeah, that would be one without marraige. Duh. I assume men would also want their sisters and daughters to have a higher quality of life available to them Marraige makes life worse, so you are correct. I also assume men value living This is why men don't want to waste life on an institution that makes life intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:28 PM
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I'm suggesting we change his mindset to find value in marriage. That's doomed to fail, obviously. If marraige is a shit deal for him, the only way to change his mindset enough for him to accept it is to break his capacity for desiring his self interest. Which makes for an absolutely shit husband. The only way to bring men back to marriage is by making marraige into a better deal for them. Which means ladies will have to make concessions to get what they want. 😱😱😱 That changes the equation. It th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:26 PM
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If men didn't care they wouldn't have gone their own way. Duh. You're really bad at this Sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:22 PM
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MGTOW stands for "Men Going Their Own Way" Sharp, not women. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:21 PM
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You live in a society Who cares? You have sisters and daughters - who you ostensibly care for No I don't. 3 bros and no kids. I assumed y'all valued your own lives We do, that's why we aren't wasting them on marraige.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:20 PM
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I'm suggesting that it's a bad movement for society, Who cares. for women Then they should make the changes that lead to the outcome they want. and for males That's for men to decide, and the decision is getting clearer every month: too many women are not worth marrying and the institution itself is too polarized against men's interests to be appealing. Marraige for men these days is little more than servitude for no gains he cannot get while single. It's extra effort for no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:18 PM
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Can you explain how these women behave? Entitled and abusive. Why do you expect plain women to be eager for any guy that comes around? The expectation is for basic respect, enthusiasm is desired not expected. Do you ask the men why they become that way? Nothing happens in a vacume Usually it's due to the wife taking him for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:15 PM
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Which is why many single men do their own housekeeping. It's 2024 Sharp, men are putting on the rubber gloves and breaking out the mops and dusters too. Nobody needs tits to run a vacuum or wash dishes, get with the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:11 PM
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Doesn't matter. Why get hitched in the first place when it doesn't benefit the man in the first place, and on top of it all it opens him up to emotional and financial ruin? Juice aint worth the squeeze because there is no juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:09 PM
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CMV: Males should stop walking away from marriage No. Men should walk where they please. To clarify. I don't mean getting divorced. I mean not being open to the idea of marriage anymore. Make us. Lol, you don't even know how to make us want to marry women? Sucks to suck! Society is better off when children are raised in stable, two-parent households Why should men care? What is society doing for men that is so necessary, insisting on privatized healthcare? Society as it is deserves nothing but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:07 PM
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Lol. If only I hadn't... I didn't witness this so I'm not going to indulge it. I am only interested in the rhetoric you displayed here. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions on me and on all men, It is not an assumption to assert you do not speak for men, it is objective fact. I, unlike you, am not claiming to speak for anyone. All I have done is explain why you are wrong, both factually and ethically, for making the argument you have made here. who do not all share your insecurities, appar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:56 PM
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Look, if you really don't see how "I want a paternity test" equals "I do not trust you didn't cheat on me, got pregnant, and are now willing to lie for the rest of our lives" I really don't know how else to explain. Why would I give any credence to your lies? You aren't a man, you do not have any authority to speak for men, especially not on a topic where you are clearly following your own emotionally driven agenda instead of even trying to listen and learn. You're basically the lady equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:37 PM
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It's literally what it means in the vast vast majority of cases No, it is just you putting words in the mouths of hypothetical men and pretending you're doing anything but lying to trivialize the PoV of people you feel threatened by. Most men just want the same certainty women get automatically (and usually take for granted). Turning a pursuit of a confirmation into an implicit accusation just to upset yourself is simply vanity. It literally means the wife cheated on him, risksed an STI for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:13 PM
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Lol you’ve never heard of a hypothetical or a scenario? I used "hypothetical" before you did in this thread. I taught you these terms lmao, what a bad liar Not reading the rest of your whinging drivel, gf just woke up so I'm going to pivot to where the fun is. Good luck with not freaking out more than you already have!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:39 AM
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A pleb Hahahahaha, what a pitiful sucker! could never trigger me. You've been triggered ever since I first commented on this thread, get real. You're down so bad you can't even finish your homework! Aww did you just learn about partial differentials? Yeah, like 30 years ago. They're not new, much like nuclear reactors. Get outside more and these things won't surprise and scare you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:35 AM
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Lol what men am I making up? Are you referring to the men I said should stay out of my way if they’re paranoid about paternity? Yes, those hypothetical men. The men you made up in your imagination and don't exist anywhere else, exactly. Are you too drunk to comprehend? Fuck, I wish! Haven't found a bottle big enough for that. Why does it bother you so much that I won’t date a man that would accuse me of cheating? I literally already said that's great for you, because a paternity test is confirma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:30 AM
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Ugh, gross. This was getting fun, knowing I am triggering you enough to get you to procrastinate on something that's 1% actually important. Now you're fucking up talking about what I love and the mood is ruined. It's partial differentials and radiation decay timelines for 2nd place, and two ladies for first. Get it right. Also, what do I have to lie about? Lol! Keep playing dumb, it matches your vibe 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:22 AM
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Nah I'm just drunk and bored waiting on gf to wake up for round 3. Turn the projector off, she's sleeping. Pretty sure the triggered person is the one making up men to upset herself anyway, not the guy laughing at her for her inability to just accept difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:16 AM
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Tell me you've never seen, let alone read, an actual dissertation without telling me You probably think "white papers" are hung next to the toilet lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:11 AM
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Lmao you’re still writing dissertations? So on top of the truth you're scared of literacy too? Makes sense, liars tend to be anti-intellectuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:10 AM
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Yes it is a problem for my husband to accuse me of cheating and lying. Thank goodness a paternity test is a confirmation you've been telling the truth and not an accusation then! You have a problem with men knowing the truth about you, that's all this ever is. You expect men to live -happily- in a state of uncertainty caused entirely by you despite how you would not tolerate the same uncertainty yourself. I’m not lashing out against men Again, you called men trash for protecting ourselves. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:01 AM
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Lol this is only a problem for women who actually plan to baby trap And as a woman with problems against paternity traps, it's apparently a problem for you. Do I really need to spell this out further? some paranoid fucking circus monkey. That seems pretty problematic. You're getting upset over a hypothetical man who only exists as a talking point you made up. Making up a guy to upset yourself is much closer to a circus monkey than a guy worrying about paternity fraud. Why do you feel the need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 02:23 AM
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Lol the semantics really don’t matter To the unobservant, sure. I just need the paranoids to stay out of my way, Can't baby trap if you're caught doing it, makes sense yeah. why I gave this advice. The trash really does take itself out. Yes it does. Thanks for your hard work taking itself out 🖤 I should empathize with paranoid men accusing their partners of cheating and lying for no reason? No one is talking about accusing anyone of anything. A paternity test should be seen as a confirmation, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:10 AM
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If you're not asking the questions you aren't weeding anything out, but being weeded out lol Maybe after a generation stays forever alone, the new normal women will be capable of basic empathy. Ah, dare to dream!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:52 PM
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Irrational fears that are impacting your life should not be indulged Exactly. Don't indulge the fear by making him just as certain as his baby mama is certain, and just get the paternity test. Otherwise the baby mama is just giving her baby daddy's fear all the water fertilizer and sunlight it needs to grow. that only gives them more power over you Exactly! Giving the fear everything it needs to grow only increases its anti-rational properties' impact on the one who experiences it. Without the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:00 PM
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Sure, why else would he ever suspect the child of not being his? You mean in addition to the hospital swapping out the babies by accident? Try the instinctual drive to guarantee the survival of his linneage. Again, women can't understand this outside of the abstract because the human reproductive process guarantees the kid they are pregnant with is their's. Or the socially conditioned doubts men learn from seeing other men getting paternity frauded and how absolutely no one appears to give a fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:34 PM
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Come on, it's clear it's not a quote from someone Sooo it's just you creating a hypothetical strawman. Neutral as in "not implicitly suspecting your wife of cheating". According to this definition, I'd say most men who otherwise trust their partner but still want a paternity test are experiencing a 'neutral fear'. I still think it is a bad term for it though, because again fear is an intrinsically subjective and anti-rational experience. The desire for the same certainty women take for granted i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:18 PM
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If you're afraid of validating his trust, why would he trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:22 PM
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Relationships are built on trust. Trust is earned, not obligatory. Asking for a paternity test is admitting that this trust is not there. Nah, it's just acknowledging the man's lack of certainty and providing him with certainty. For the other party, this can feel like a devastating blow If they insist on refusing to understand their partner's PoV, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:16 PM
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Like I said you should be upfront about it before you get into a relationship. This is actually good advice. Weed out the wannabe baby trappers early and often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:14 PM
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Why are you expecting fear to be logical? That's a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:12 PM
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One thing can be irrational while still not implying complete distrust and negative judgement of your partner's caracter, integrity, and loyalty. Correct. That is why a man asking for a paternity test is not necessarily accusing anyone of cheating! Neutral in relation to the relationship's foundation of trust and fidelity. Functional trust is a byproduct of certainty, dysfunctional trust is the result of trust being obligatory. If the relationship was built on the premise that trust is owed firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:10 PM
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"I fear you cheated on me and are willing to lie to me, our families and our child for our entire lives hiding a secret that would break my heart. Oh you could also have given me AND the child an STD, and hiding the child's true medical history could potentially put their health at risk. Yup, that sounds like something you could do." Why is this in quotes when nobody wrote or said it but you? a totally neutral fear Nobody said fear is neutral. Fear is irrational, it cannot be neutral by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:05 PM
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I have no idea. It’s insane to me. Just take the damn test already. Thank you! Men can get scared and emotional before a birth, and one thing women should understand… there is no doubt in their mind about them being the mother, and all the nurturing hormones that flood their bodies, but men don’t have that in any way. Yes! So many women take their certainty in their parenthood for granted, and never even try to imagine what uncertainty about this does for men. So why wouldn’t you put the man you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:03 PM
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That's just downplaying. 1/20 kids born out of wedlock are born from infidelity, that we know of. That isn't rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:52 PM
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Lol, any man who has two braincells to rub together would just informally agree to these terms, get the paternity test results, then initiate divorce whether or not he's the dad. This is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:50 PM
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Well the kids will definitely suffer as witnesses to a marriage with zero trust and me resenting their father Why would there be zero trust unless you see the father's desire for certainty as a betrayal? Why should any man trust you if you are this afraid of letting them be just as certain of their linneage as you would be of yours'? I get access to all his accounts and electronic devices for the rest of his life. He will wear an air tag no matter where he goes. And every few years he pays for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:48 PM
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Sounds like fear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:41 PM
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Because it's an accusation of cheating It's not. It's just pursuing the certainty women take for granted. Dudes can't even get dates. How are they even supposed to get someone pregnant? So any man who is concerned about paternity fraud is an incel? That's just an absurd ad hominem. To worry about a boogeyman. Boogeymen don't exist. Paternity fraud does. Whenever you're ready to join us in reality, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:38 PM
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To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:36 PM
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Find the original dad! You know, the one who is directly responsible for making the child? Why does he get off the hook while the paternity fraud victim gets stuck on the barb? That seems fair, to anyone? Also, I think more can be done with taxpayer money to address this issue. Instead of foster homes and the adoption circuit, which are saturated in predators, I think it should be possible to create public institutions of communal parenting. This way kids from broken relationships aren't forced …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:34 PM
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I mean... it is obviously the mom's fault. Punishing the victim of paternity fraud for being a victim seems deeply fucked up to me, and practically guarantees the kid will be raised in an abusive environment while rewarding the cheater with two decades of financial servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:19 PM
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1/20 people is not that tiny. It's about the same rate as NPD in the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:08 PM
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How do you address the guys who actually get scammed? Those guys don't matter to these people. Literally. They do not give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:08 PM
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their humanity. What a way to misspell "ass". If you don't talk with them you only witness their body, not their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:35 PM
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Deprioritize yes, demonize no. If you think men dehumanize women more than vice versa, I encourage you to deprioritize. Do men a favor, cut us a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:53 PM
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I'm not young and your creative writing excercises are getting boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:54 PM
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You can object to that while still deprioritizing women because of how frequently they dehumanize you. There is no contradiction in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:53 PM
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Most women don't feel right these days. I don't blame men for passing on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:43 PM
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Women did adapt. That's why some men are so upset Yeah, the Duluth Model was a big change. Beyond that though, women have only 'adapted' by becoming better corporate simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:42 PM
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Adapt or suffer. Adapt by cutting women like you off, suffer by chasing vapid beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:41 PM
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Seqence prediction =/= AI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:38 PM
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I had a woman try to kill me for rejecting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:36 PM
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No. What, do you think men are entitled to sex and women are entitled to approachers? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:34 PM
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You sound very hedonistic about sex and dismissive about marriage. I have a fiance. You sound incapable of evaluating others with any accuracy. You are entitled to free will; Hahahahahaha however, don't complain about the consequence you may face when your older, like loneliness and isolation You're the one who is without a partner after a decade of searching, I'm the one with multiple committed partners. When am I supposed to expect the lonliness and isolation to kick in, during the group sex? …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:26 PM
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No, it doesn't. Like the Duluth model, you're just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:09 PM
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Inability to form or maintain attachments to their sexual partners is the biggest one, but there are others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:08 PM
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Not one that is worth marrying, I'll wager Sounds like the biggest obstacle to your romance, is you. definitely not one that is a virgin by choice Just go to churches. Duh, lol I set a worthy goal Hahahaha That's not likely to end well. Paid off college and grad school with it and got out nearly 10 years ago now. Worked out fantastic, better than failing to find a pure virgin for you did lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:06 PM
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70% percent of divorce is initiated by women. Majority of reasons is overwhelmingly abuse. No, the majority of the time it is pursuit of happiness stuff. You have no sources just bs. If you don't want to be with a man, don't. Leave. You won't be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:01 PM
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The "not all men" males quickly switch their tune when their are talking to their daughters. No we don't lol Now you speak for men? You have a penis? We tell our daughters that men contain multitudes. If your dad didn't he sucks. How do you explain the statistics about male abuse of women? Women are more abusive. Guess you didn't do the reading. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ The stereotype of men being the bigger abusers is due to the sexist Duluth Model of domestic viole…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:53 PM
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I spent 10 years not degrading or compromising myself. You spent 10 years failing. I can find a virgin man in less than 30 minutes, it isn't hard. You set a goal for yourself and proceeded to fuck it up for a decade, this is cope lmao Though it was lonely and painful, it was better than the alternative You don't know the alternative. More cope. Also lol @ the notion that there was only one alternative. Narrowmindedness is not a virtue. past ten years of causal sex, Lady, I'm not casual about sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:46 PM
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Women get it way more than men lol, we literally get told we hate women just for saying most men don't act like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:36 PM
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Men are different from each other, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:34 PM
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You spent 10 years looking for a virgin and failed. I've spent the past 10 years with 13 different women, not including the people at the orgy I went to in 2016. Pretty sure the loser is the one who lost a decade of their life failing to get what they want. If you were honest with yourself you'd have realized that your bullying is just your dysfunctional lashing out at the people who have made better choices and enjoy better lives than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:28 PM
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Nah, you're just an abuser. Haven't seen you speak the truth once, it would be an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:20 PM
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Guess I touched a nerve! Try to be less weak. One of my wisest aunts always said, "If the truth can hurt you, Calling dudes you want to bully virgins has nothing to do with the truth lol Calling a man a virgin only works as an insult if he is a virgin but desperately wants to fuck around like a player Nah. Maybe the women who gang raped him as a child called him that, and he has traumatic memories associated with the word despite having no intention to 'fuck around like a player'. You just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:19 PM
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Lmao most men don't deserve you and the ones who do are in prison You're just an emotionally abusive bully with a vagina. Not special, dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:10 PM
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If I thought a woman only needs me like she needs a hole in the head, I would leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:05 PM
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There are always tells, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:04 PM
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So your argument is that calling a man a virgin only works if he fucks like a pornstar? Meanwhile if the man is actually a virgin he can't feel insulted fir being called a virgin? Seems pretty incoherent. You just have hideously prejudicial views of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:04 PM
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"If I hurt your feelings it's cause you deserve it" Bully logic. I can see why you took a decade to find a virgin man and still failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:00 PM
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Men only have the safe spaces we do not tell women we have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 10:41 PM
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Adultery Psycho/Affair Partner
/r/Divorce_Men21/09/24 12:25 AM
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To mock it? Lol that isn't giving a shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:08 PM
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The “locker room talk” phrase came into the public lexicon because Donald Trump Uuuughghhjjhhjgh The phrase has been around since before the Great Depression as a commentary on American football culture. The public lexicon records it as early as 1921 ffs. The world did not spring into existence when Trump said "grab em by the pussy", it turns out there are thousands of years of human history that preceded that event. Donald Trump used it to explain away some disparaging comment or another (I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:57 PM
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tell me you've never worked construction before without telling me. I worked nearly a decade as a plumber with a lot of masonry work on the side lol, and I specifically avoided nepotism companies because they treat their employees like trash. Look, idiots exist in every demographic. You don't have any control over what others think or say, but you do have control over how much it impacts your day to day life. Resentful dumbasses are their own worst enemies, and paying much attention to them does…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:50 PM
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Not a problem lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:40 PM
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Lmao who gives a shit Watch out consenting adults, did you forget to ask Windmill Flowers what they do and don't consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:38 PM
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What you described is nepotism, just because the business was small doesn't mean anything. Not my problem your standards suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:14 PM
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How is it harmful. Be specific. Also lol @ you getting vicariously upset over someone who was hired for being the boss's wife getting shittalked by the rest of the employees. That also happens if they are the boss's son. People tend to not respect those who only got where they are from nepotism, because nepotism not only denies actually qualified and honest people the jobs they deserve it also denies the company the talent it depends on to stay competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:41 PM
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The data shows that crime statistics are flawed and have been for decades, and nothing has been done to change that. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/ The other commenter already showed you this study so you are just being obtuse. because apparently, cops are…what? racist toward Black people and sexist toward men? Oh no, you really think government institutions are never corrupt or fallible or biased? Hahahaha... what a jejune greenhorn. When do you graduate from highschool, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:14 PM
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Equivalent to racist police crime data on black people. Look, as someone who had to fend off multiple sexual assault - at minimum - attempts from women in my life you simply are not going to convinvce me that men are the only or even the vast majority of sexual predators. It's just that when women rape men, nobody believes the victim is a victim. Even when the male in question was a child, he is denied any victim status and all too frequently no crime is reported. Until more data on the known wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:50 PM
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You are comparing two different things here. Correct, what women do is worse. This is why it is okay, If you are ok with having no boundaries, you have my pity. Jejune. Unless they get defensive, and you can very easily happen when someone responds to sometimes because of that. Try to use real English, you write like a CTE patient. So because you have never witnessed something that means that it doesn't exist? It means it exists as a stereotype to demonize men. I think that you can come to the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:34 PM
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Not what the data shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:21 PM
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I didn't say its not, people can br aroused by multiple things. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:20 PM
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What threat? Sheesh. Too melodramatic. You don't need to live in war to see it. You do realize you sound insane also, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:19 PM
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Teach everyone not to rape or teach everyone about consent, but targeting one population for the crime is prejudicial and reinforces the very stereotypes that perpetuate the problem. Might as well teach women and only women not to murder their children. How do you think that will play out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:31 AM
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I wasn’t there to see it in person so it’s fake. Keep saying that around the wrong people and they will show you what it looks like. So why have I never seen a war happening in front of my own eyes? You have, you just either lack the conceptual framework to identify it or you are playing dumb for the sake of supporting a fundamentally weak argument based on lies. The group you’re describing also kill people. No, they don't. They're just dumb kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:10 AM
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Exactly. It can happen anywhere, and it is usually far more boring than women want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:07 AM
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Because the concept of being a cuckqueen/cuckold is to be sexually aroused by having your partner having sex with other people. Simplistic and imprecise, but semi functional as far as definitions go. Definitely a definition from someone who has no direct experience of doing this wholesomely though, if at all. By definition, it mean if you are the one having sex with others, your cuck partner doesn’t have sex with you, Wrong, not in the definition at all. Some cuckqueens want to be fucked before/…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:38 AM
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I’ve never seen anyone being shot to death in my entire life. Then watch either Kennedy assassination, or the Collateral Murder video, or any number of documented and verified media that recorded such a morbid event. That cherry is pop-able, so much so that you really have to put effort into avoiding getting it popped these days to hold onto it. Does this mean that war and gun crime don’t actually exist and it’s just made up fearmongering? Surprise: most wars exist as products of made up fearmon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:30 AM
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Nice attempt at damage control What damage? Wtf are you talking about? So melodramatic. Women already know men do this. Nah, some sub par women tell themselves men do this with the same breath they use to tell themselves they are a greater authority on men than men are. Other men have admitted to it Liars exist in both sexes. caught doing it by their partners sneaking through the phones thinking they’d catch them cheating only to find them having “locker room talk” in their all male group chat. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:25 AM
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Locker room talk isn’t necessarily to be taken literally as a name Ffs, obviously Making a joke about how men are uncomfortable with sharing details about their private affairs was intended to highlight the absurdity of the premise. It was not a mating call for every pedant on this sub to come running over with their flaccid attempts at correction. Men could be having sordid discussions about women over beers Except they don't. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:20 AM
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Dude no one uses the excuse of "well they do it so we can also do it" to talk about this stuff. Ask a woman who gossips about her partner behind their back about why they think it is ok and 9/10 times they will say, "Oh but boys say FAR worse things with their locker room talk!". So I just don't buy this premise. I have seen and heard women do this all my life. Both sexes just love to talk about this crap it really isn't that deep. I don't think men enjoy it nearly as commonly, nor have I ever e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:00 AM
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Tf are you on about? People love to play victim, and this gives women an excuse to do it anywhere at any time and in reaction to practically any conversation between men. I have been with guys who don't discuss sex ever and I have been with guys who would casually chat about it and comment about certain women's bodies. Who is harmed by either of these interactions? And you know why certain men do this. Because it is fun. No it isn't, even talking about other dudes talking about it is painfully b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:53 PM
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Probably why so few are engaging with it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:43 PM
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You are taking the phrase waaaaaaaaay too literally. Locker room talk doesn't need to actually take place in locker rooms. As drinking flasks are to alcoholics, so is this definition to paranoid self-victimization hypochondriacs. Sate your addiction anywhere and everywhere, because the infamous Locker Room Talk can be happening RIGHT NOW at an office room watercooler near you! Got any more validation for my hypothesis this is a fearmongering fantasy? Also we definitely do talk in locker rooms wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:23 PM
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Nah, it is cheating to lie to your partner for the sake of benefiting yourself at their expense. This is possible to do not just sexually, but emotionally, financially, and other ways too. If no deceit is occuring, everyone involved is fully aware of what is happening, and everyone consents with it and wants it to continue, cheating is not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:16 PM
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She encourages it because she fears him leaving If she was afraid of him leaving she wouldn't provide him with options to leave with, lmao A cuckqueen is simply a woman who experiences her idiosyncratic zenith of sexual pleasure and erotic intensity while watching her man fuck another woman. It has nothing to do with fearing anything. I've had one night stands with cuckqueens, how could they be afraid I would leave them when they were already single and not interested in anything long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:13 PM
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That's what women are talking about though when they talk about locker room talk. I know, and my argument is they are discussing their own fearmongering fantasy. The comparison of what OP is describing women doing is very different from what women are talking about when we talk about locker room talk. I know. My argument is that women's gossip about their actual sexual partners is a direct violation of their partners' privacy, while 'locker room talk' about hypothetical fantasies violates nobody…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:08 PM
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No person who has any self respect would allow their partner to cheat on them. That's why she is encouraging and requesting it, not allowing it. Sick projection there dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:41 PM
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If the woman you are with is begging you to fuck another woman in front of her, and you cannot stop feeling like you are cheating despite how you are fulfilling your partner's explicit request, then all that means is kinky sex is not your thing. Not that you actually cheated on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:39 PM
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Right? So odd that their reflex is to challenge the commitment of either partner, when both are working to fulfill and please each other. This sort of kink depends on immense loyalty for both partners too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:37 PM
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Bizarre generalizations. If your partner is begging you to fuck someone else right in front of her, doing so is not cheating by any sane definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:35 PM
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What happened to commitment? If I am committed to my partner's happiness and this is what she says she wants, and I have no problem with it, then my commitment leads me to at least try it out. If I derive pleasure from it too, why wouldn't I see where commitment to her leads?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:34 PM
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who actually desire me enough to have sex with me Why is this mutually exclusive with your concept of a cuckqueen?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:32 PM
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Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean? Nah. Had fun with a few of those already, have always been curious about a LTR with one. Would you still be with her or would you pull the plug on that relationship immediately? Depending on how stable she is through the whole scene and afterwards, I'd quickly move to escalate the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:31 PM
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It's fearmongering bullshit. You have yet to describe any instance where anyone was actually harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:28 PM
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Hyping each other up for non consensual shit If that's what you call talking about hypothetical fantasies just to reaffirm to all the other mostly naked men around you that you don't want to fuck them, the worst thing that is actually happening in reality and not your fantasy is probable stoking of homophobia. Even so, I have never seen any of this crap outside of movies and TV shows. In real life guys are in the locker room to change clothes, shower, and coordinate workouts with workout partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:20 PM
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But men have told me that they do. I've never seen it, in or out of locker rooms. Can't account for every conversation, but it can't be that widespread if I can go nearly 40 years without witnessing it. Some have even claimed that men who say otherwise are "lying." Once again, this has been told by men themselves. On PPD? How do you know those are men? They could be lab apes with keyboards for all you know, or sequence prediction bots. I don't get why it's hard to phantom that there are guys out…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:13 PM
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Sure, in that the boy's are not actually violating the trust of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
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And unless you shared private info about real people with that guy, nothing equivalent happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:32 PM
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locker room talk is not the same as women speaking to friends about their partners This is compleye bullshit. for the most part locker room talk is Not real. It does not happen. It is not a thing which exists in the way misandrist women describe it. If men talk in the locker room it is about working out, plans after working out, or changes in schedule for future work outs. no cis woman can ever really know how bad it gets because no matter what men will always censor themselves around a woman, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:30 PM
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It’s one of many myths many men claim as a fact on here Lol what? Men don't chat in the bathroom, why would we chat when we are even more naked in the locker room?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:26 PM
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I have been with women who lied about their long term goals, their current or past relationships, what they like about me, practically everything really. It's not hard to imagine one lying about her attraction too if she thought it suited her interests. Obviously leave any liar ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:09 PM
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"Tokenism is not racism" Bullshit. Y'all are so racist you persecute other residents of your island for not being from downtown London.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:55 AM
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Fuck no. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:45 PM
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The “social biases” and “sociocultural views” you’re talking about are a result of people having basic pattern recognition skills. No, they are instinctually ingrained reflexes which people use to rationalize their confirmation bias, which in turn rationalizes their bigotry. The “erasing gender-biases” you demand from studies is nothing more than asking people to meaninglessly reaffirm common sense The most common 'common sense' is bigotry. You’re so obsessed with achieving equality with women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:16 PM
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That is not how language works. You're in the capitol of English, learn a thing or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:12 PM
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It's like lead poisoning, spend a year in London and there is no measurable difference. It is the island that is cursed as much as the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:00 PM
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You explicitly support misandry. That is all that is required to be a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:59 PM
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How many women died in WWII, compared to how many men? There is your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:57 PM
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It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:56 PM
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The chance is closer to 2.5%, you just subscribe to bigotry instead of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:56 PM
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British people are the most bigoted of all the world and you're certainly proving the stereotype correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:55 PM
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Queen Victoria mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:51 PM
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To preface, I don't fully agree with the post, but this is a really bad response. It isn't, you are just uncomfortable over your inability to justify explicit bigotry. "That’s why it’s justifiable; a misandrist is not going to kill you for not giving her what she wants, I was almost murdered for rejecting a misandrist woman. This is just a misandrist lie. Misandrist women are the women most likely to commit violence against men. rather she’s angry that you think you have complete authority over …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:51 PM
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Tldr Confirmation bias to rationalize hate is intrinsically invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:42 PM
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I already said: the many women who go out of their way to avoid men. You are being obtuse, nothing of value lost by blocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:39 PM
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You're denying that women can rape men, when it absolutely happens. You are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:35 PM
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convince men to start going to the police for their sexual assaults. Convince police to take those men seriously, and more will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:34 PM
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The categorical avoidance of men is an overestimation of risk many women engage in every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:25 PM
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Men and women are about equal in our capacity for threat avoidance, it's just that men are socially legally and logistically easier targets for violence despite being physically more capable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:24 PM
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I have been perfectly civil in my defense of the destitute against your insecure projections. What is uncivil is objectifying an entire class of people just to inflate your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:22 PM
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I stand by what I said. I knew you would, because it is an insecure fantasy. It's very telling, you're actually the one projecting. I am not the one pretending to know the intentions of millions of people lol Personal attacks aren't permitted here, so I chose to report your comment. Have a nice day "Mods?! Mods!?" Hahahaha Your fragility made for a pleasant morning dump anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:03 PM
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It is self evident. Women have reflexive fear of men as a category and not the specific men who are a threat. Again, you are being obtuse. Wake me up when you are here in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:58 PM
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So many men think rape is sexual. It’s just violence bro It is sexual violence. Duh. Try to think outside of false dichotomies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:03 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:01 PM
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Wrong. Women do way more domestic violence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ You are just conflating your misandry with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:00 PM
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You are being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:58 AM
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Crime statistics and observations of women's behavior. It is practically self evident women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:58 AM
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It's not work. It is. Most people are good natured but dull and not worth the effort, sorting through them to find the few I can bond with IS work. I'd rather spend my spare time with those I already know I can relax with. You go to places where you enjoy the vibe and talk to other people. As I already said, those are the places where I know everyone and they know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:46 AM
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It definitely isn't. It's mostly desperate people in a scarcity mindset that believe they're undyingly loyal. They aren't. They're desperate. Lol, this is absolutely a projection. You just believe everyone is as selfish and unscrupulous as you are. Tell on yourself more, please. My analogy is perfectly sound. No. It was a completely inaccurate and very dull witted oversimplification that does more to inform the reader about your inadequacies than anything else. The kids who end up being chosen l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:39 AM
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It definitely isn't. It's mostly desperate people in a scarcity mindset that believe they're undyingly loyal. They aren't. They're desperate. Lol, this is absolutely a projection. You just believe everyone is as selfish and unscrupulous as you are. Tell on yourself more, please. My analogy is perfectly sound. No. It was a completely inaccurate and very dull witted, an oversimplification that does more to inform the reader about your inadequacies than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:15 AM
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Again, that is work. I keep work at work. If I am socializing I am trying to relax, not build anything that doesn't come naturally. And I am most relaxed among people who I already know and who already know me. If it feels forced I immediately lose interest anyway, and I already don't lack for company when I want any.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:42 AM
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Some concerts and house parties can be fun when done with real friends, the rest is usually tolerable in a 'sure why not' kind of way. I'd rather die than pick women up at happy hours anymore, those ladies are too insane. Ultimately the activity is most fun if both people are there to focus on it, and what takes the fun out of dating is feeling like you can't relax because you're always being evaluated or like you have to make connections. Turning fun into a chore or a job interview is not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:26 AM
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The world already does bend to me, I aim to bend it some more. Don't need to cry about it when I can just point out how miserable people like you are, and use you as examples of what not to be. So miserable you are projecting your own tears onto others while reinforcing the same male stereotypes that set the world against you. See if you can overcome being painfully self defeating next.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:19 AM
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I don’t want to be with a partner who never uses my vulnerability against me only because I don’t give them the chance to. I want to be with a partner who I can trust to hear my vulnerabilities and won’t try to use them against me. Then seek and find a man, or seek a woman and a lot of luck. You can see it in another way. Let’s say there’s a gun pointed at my head and my partner can pull the trigger. I can choose to load the gun with a bullet. With my ideal partner, I trust that if I load the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:16 AM
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Where is she going meet this boring man if not outside and at an event whose entire purpose IS CONNECTIONS Literally anywhere else. Nothing is more boring than a networking event anyway. If dating needs to be so hard on men it should at least be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:45 AM
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I'm the one who should be sorry, currently polysaturated and that isn't going to change any time soon. So, sorry to disappoint you, but I am sure your search for a different and probably less attractive man than me will be an opportunity for growth and new bonds. Don't let my rejection turn you off from approaching other men 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:35 AM
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I feel like the truth upsests you. I take distinct pleasure in telling you your feeling is a lie. It's like being chosen last in gym class Most gym class end within an hour, do not contain any element of monogamous sexual relationships, and don't lead to marraige and kids. So it really, absolutely is not like gym class at all. What a bizarrely oversimplistic simile for someone who accuses others of being upset by 'the truth'. The moment a better opportunity comes along, they'll bail. They don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:25 AM
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I'm too busy dating shy women, they'd get jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:16 AM
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A bit more than half of the human beings who exist at least, way more than the people who care about me or you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:15 AM
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Get out more I guess? Idk what you want me to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:14 AM
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What people call shyness is usually mere introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:13 AM
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What country exists where men aren't expected to help women feel safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:13 AM
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This is sooo looong I get that a lot. Look, your illiteracy isn't my problem but if you were looking for pity you can have some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:12 AM
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By their nature, shy men aren't "seen" by anyone at all. Absurdist hyperbole. I'm talking about shy men, but you've reframed it as men in general Defining masculinity around extroversion is an objectification of all men, introverted and extroverted alike. It is men in as a gender who are impacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:11 AM
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Does that extend to politics and economics, or just dating and social success? Is the ideal modern citizen really an island unto themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:53 PM
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I disagree I know. Aww you upset? No, why would I be? Do you get upset with ignorant people who disagree with objective fact? That would suck. I just get bored more often than not, and when I don't it is because the disagreement is over something on the periphery of established human knowledge. You can make declarative statements without proof so so can I. Sure, I never said you can't. The power to prove you should or should not be listened to was always yours. Only I will be judged as perceptiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:48 PM
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Most opinions about the motivations of others, maybe. 'Most opinions' are blunt truths, such as "I think chocolate is delicious/awful".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:32 PM
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It is obvious that's my opinion. That does not change how you still surpass all objective standards to determine ridiculousness. Try to make fewer and less useless comments and you should be able to get your RQ down to normal levels. Again "Oh come on!" isn't proof or an argument Correct, the burden of proof is on you and strawmanning me is not proof of anything but your ridiculousness. Calm down, nothing I wrote was dramatic. Take deep breaths, maybe light a sented candle, and practice mindfull…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:25 PM
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You are objectively acting pretty ridiculous right now. Everyone knows that the vast majority of women are either too anxiety prone or too skewered on the barbed hook of toxic gender roles to take on the risk of rejection and approach the men they want. If you think the conventional wisdom is wrong the burden of proof is on you to prove your astronomically less probable hypothesis correct. Nobody is here to build your case for you, you are a grown woman who doesn't need a daddy figure to hold yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:18 PM
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