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There's a huge different between this and this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:29 PM
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Most men absolutely want to have casual sex. What planet have you been living on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:20 PM
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Okay, I get that. I'm more so asking why guys feel so terrible about not reaching that absurdly high standard. I think the "middle class" group of dating is shrinking. Men can be divided into three groups. Upper class - Men who can have a huge swath of attractive women relatively easily (actors, athletes, models, billionaires, celebrities) Middle class - Men who date a few women with some effort, and then eventually settle down to get married Lower class - Men who don't get any attention from wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:56 PM
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What kind of perspective is this where women were perpetual victims throughout history? Women were property? Do you honestly believe this is how women were treated for all of time? The vast majority of men and women worked in a mutually beneficial way together. It wasn't "men" vs "women", it was our tribe, village, society, against groups that would want to steal and kill. For most of human history, men were required to do more difficult manual labor and act as protection, because it was their d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:22 PM
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If those men are sleeping with very attractive women, then the female equivalent of that guy would be a woman who is easily able to enter committed relationships with men that most other women find attractive (famous actor, musician, ect).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:46 PM
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Because it doesn't seem like only a few people are participating in it. It seems like every woman has hookup stories and gets upset if guys care about the number of sexual partners she's had.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:28 PM
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needed to be handsome, hard-working, fun, romantic, sweet, confident, competent, and good smelling and clean. I have all of those traits (except maybe handsome, but that's subjective) and have never been in a relationship or even been on a date. The women I know (relatives, older family friends, etc.) have said that I'll make a girl very happy someday or that if they had a daughter that they would love to have me as a son-in-law. I've been told that there's nothing I need to change about myself …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:59 PM
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Why is exactly is a low birth rate a bad thing, again? Infinite population growth is not possible, it has to level off somewhere. Why is now wrong? Because it's not a levelling off of the populations, rather it will be a steady decline of population given current trends. Also, low birth rates are not equally distributed. There are cultures within countries that tend to be more conservative and have higher birth rates. This will result in a more restrictive world for future generations, where rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:24 PM
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Yeah, I think so. I live in a big city in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:00 PM
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I have a morning routine and a nighttime routine for my face, groom, wear cologne, go to the gym, etc. but still get no women. For women, it seems that they can get men no matter how they look, but the quality of guy that they can get goes up the more effort they put into making themselves look attractive. But for guys, it's almost like running on a hamster wheel, where the amount of effort you put into your appearance doesn't meaningfully change the options you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:37 AM
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If a man isn't attracted to a woman when she isn't wearing makeup, then why would would she want to be with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:27 AM
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Women who become single mothers through being widowed or a justified divorce shouldn't be in the same category as the women who were never married, but decided to have a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:55 AM
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That's why having children within the structure of a marriage is so important. The marriage symbolizes the commitment each party has with the other - to stay together to support the family they are building and sexual fidelity to prevent a woman from getting pregnant from another man and the man from impregnating another woman. Sadly in the US, almost 50% of children are born out of wedlock, and it looks like it is continuing to increase. Even the term "baby momma" is becoming increasingly commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:41 PM
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Men usually want to sleep with women they find attractive, but they also want to commit to one woman and spend the rest of his life with her. Committing can only come after sleeping around, because you can't sleep around after you commit to one person. However, due to the difficulty of finding women to sleep with, most men will have to sacrifice their desire to sleep with multiple women in order to satisfy their desire to commit to one woman. There is no way to determine how many sexual partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:16 AM
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I don't see how my post has anything to do with rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:35 PM
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Creepy doesn't mean ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:38 PM
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It's not the age that makes people uncomfortable, it's the lack of attraction. If an unattractive person of any age hits on you, you're gonna feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:56 PM
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Speak for yourself lady, when I was 18 (and younger), I would have loved for a hot 45 or even 55 year old woman to "take advantage" of me. Hell, even now in my mid-20's, I would still want that. Would that be a serious relationships, of course not. But it would be a fun life experience to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:31 PM
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This video and the guy's channel is preaching to women, 99% of the comments in that video are from women. His argument for not only choosing an "age-appropriate partner", but also conditioning your body to not find younger women attractive to be "pro-social" is crazy. Do you know what else is pro-social? A type of arranged marriage system like in India, which makes women marry men chosen by their parents or community on the basis of stability and income, rather than what she finds attractive. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:22 PM
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Does this perspective not lend credence to the idea that women have the luxury of selecting for compatibility in addition to looks and other traits on dating apps? Whereas men only get to choose for looks, and even that metric is far more lenient than women's. On dating apps, men tend to have to sacrifice on most traits in order to get matches in the first place. Their female equivalent is ironically out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:23 PM
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If it was something they did in the past, but didn't want to continue, surely it is still acceptable for a person to not want to date them due to those past actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:48 AM
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Yes, but why is one preference of a partner's history regressive, but the other isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:46 PM
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Is it regressive to not want to date a woman who engaged in extreme sexual fetishes in her past? Such as gangbangs, scat play, abdl, furries, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:22 PM
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The ideal world would be one where all men and women have the opportunity to date and sleep with an abundance of partners when young. These interactions would be consensual, enjoyable, allow for positive personal growth, and without any shame, STDs or pregnancies. They would date until they reach a point where they choose one monogamous partner to raise children and spend the rest of their lives with. The partner they choose would align with their life goals and values. Unfortunately, life doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:02 PM
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I don't think you understand what he said. If men had the same options as women, they would sleep with the hot, popular girl and the dorky, socially awkward plain-Jane. This plays out in real life with attractive men sleeping with women who are less attractive, but the same can't be said for women. So no, the scenario doesn't play out the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:53 PM
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A comical example relevant to this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:45 PM
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Your family is rich enough for that type of arrangement to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:47 PM
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My lower limit is 26 these days. That's far too young. A 26 year old was not even in middle school when you graduated from college. The youngest you should be dating as a 36 year old are people who are 32. I don't even know what you would have in common with someone younger than that other than them being easier to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:02 PM
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The insecurity isn't about the woman though. It's about the man who didn't need to have to have any traits, except being good looking, for her to hookup with him. For a lot of guys, they will never be hot enough to get that kind of reaction from a woman. They would have to do things in addition to whatever they look like: spending time, money, and energy on a girl to get her to desire him. So the relationship guy already had to have a bunch of other positive qualities to be considered, which a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:57 AM
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I was around 10 when female strangers began treating me with suspicion when I was just riding my bike outside. I think being non-white contributes to women's increased suspicion, but that's just my experience. It kind of makes you feel like a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:19 PM
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A more apt way of describing male sexuality is that "just physical features are sufficient to arouse men". That doesn't mean men aren't aroused by non-physical features, but that if they see a woman that they find physically attractive, that's enough for them to be willing to sleep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:55 PM
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Besides Jay-Z and Beyonce, all of those couples are around the same level of attractiveness from just looking at their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:42 PM
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There's a disconnect between how men and women view attractiveness. From a male perspective, the things that matter for physical attractiveness are face with no makeup, body, and cleanliness. If that's the metric that men judge from, then it makes sense as to why more women see couples where they perceive the woman as "hotter". And sure, even from the male perspective, there are plenty of couples where the woman is more attractive. However, there are also plenty of couples where the man is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:31 PM
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If you knew enough about science, you would know that we understand very little about the brain. MRI's allow us to make correlations, but no serious scientist would say that they know exactly what the prefrontal cortex does and how it develops. Your use of "disgust" language suggests to me that you feel this opinion, and did not rationalize it from info about the prefrontal cortex or any other data that you collected. You're seeking out information to justify your feelings, rather than viewing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:33 PM
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It's okay to have that opinion, but I disagree. The prefrontal cortex meme is overplayed and filled with misinformation. The brain continues to develop throughout our lifetime, and we don't understand the brain enough to make sweeping generalizations about how society should be structured. Even life experiences vary tremendously from person to person, culture to culture. It would be disingenuous of you to state that a 25 year old dating a 18 year old is not okay, but a Brazilian from a wealthy b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:34 PM
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Which topics are tied to age? Music, film, art, history, science, pop culture, literature, food, philosophy, outdoors, etc. are things anyone at any age can enjoy and talk about with others. My interests in my mid 20s and late teens aren't all that different, because they're not based on age. They're based on what I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:53 PM
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I'm 26, and I'd say 18-29 is the most attractive. However, a woman who takes care of herself can look better in her 30s than many women in their 20s. An unhealthy diet, poor sleep, lack of exercise, excessive alcohol/smoking, sun damage, and stress ages both men and women. The effects of that lifestyle can be more seen as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:21 PM
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Men own literally everything [Rich] men own literally everything, not "men". I can't go up to Jeff Bezos and ask for a cool $1M to oppress a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:58 PM
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It looks like men are four times more likely than women to be murdered
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:53 PM
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I need to start asking my dates to come clean my apartment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:19 PM
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Is the messaging data depicting who received the first message?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:21 PM
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If we're specifically looking at the demographic of men ages 18-29 in 2023, I would say about 25%-30% are in that third group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:03 PM
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Honestly, you're probably just a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:08 AM
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A woman who is more attracted to a man after seeing that he's good with kids. A woman who is more attracted to a man because he has a good relationship with his mom. A woman who is more attracted to a man who is passionate and excels at playing music or some other skill. A woman who is more attracted to a man who is a leader in his field and exudes confidence. Etc. So all of these traits make women's pussies wet and cum harder, right? Because you framing what men desire in such a crass way gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:06 PM
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Right, and I agree that adult men shouldn't be hitting on underage girls. My perspective is that the message that is out there is that women get hit on so much, even since they were young, that they wish they could just be left alone. So men who don't want to make women uncomfortable leave women alone. And then the only appropriate places to hit on women is on dating apps or at parties/clubs/bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:56 PM
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To be honest, I don't know either. But I see women talking about how men starting hitting on them when they were 12 ,and they wish they would just be left alone. I think most guys who don't want to make a woman feel uncomfortable hear that, and it influences their behavior. So when you walk past a guy and he treats you like you don't exist, that is kind of what a lot of other women said that they want. Although recently I have seen some women say that they wish men would approach more. Maybe in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:57 AM
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I don’t know why we don’t teach our boys to ask out girls anymore. There were barely any couples around me growing up, yet there was a ton of really pretty girls. Boys don’t chase anymore and they don’t ask anymore. But it is needed to form couples! As someone who was a teenager not that long ago and never pursued girls beyond asking them out to prom, I think that one reason is changing social dynamics. Society taught me that girls get asked out so much that they're sick of it, so if a girl like…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:04 PM
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Tbh social media and women sharing their experiences opened my eyes to how much of a shmuck I would be to just settle down and have a stable life with a woman as a stable, reliable guy. I would never know if she was the type who wanted to have fun and sleep around with a bunch of guys who act shitty. And the fact that caring about a woman's body count is a social faux pas means that rather than caring about her past, I should work on becoming the guy who sleeps with a bunch of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:39 PM
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It's almost as if men and women aren't the same. Who would have thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:26 PM
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The brain doesn't fully develop until around 25. Please stop spreading this pseudoscience meme, I have no idea who started it. Different structures in our brain continue to develop throughout our lifetime. There is no one part of the brain that is the "rational part" or "decision-making part".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:21 PM
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Probably b/c the personality type of women who spend time on reddit aren't the same girls who would date a guy in his 30s or 40s. The world is vast, people, just because you are a certain age or a certain gender, that doesn't mean you can speak on behalf of everyone who shares your trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:13 PM
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As a man, I don't care about International Men's Day, and it seems a bit pathetic. If women want to have an International Women's Day, that's their prerogative as long as it doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:03 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear, but the context of this post is that of growing old with someone and dying. My example is someone elderly naturally passing away. Not of someone who has their life ended too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:39 PM
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I'm sorry you had to experience that. I'm not referring to when someone is young and had their life unfairly ended too soon. My example is that of someone who has lived a long life that is coming to it's end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:37 PM
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I can't describe the color blue to a blind man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:58 PM
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A rich, famous actor dating beautiful women is unusual?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:43 PM
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Have you ever had a loved one die while you spent their last moments with them? I have, it's a beautiful and sad experience. Your loved one's existence coming to an end may incur in them emotions of sadness, fear, contentment, resignation, etc. And as they go through their final moments, you get the privilege to comfort them, hold their hand. They pass knowing that a part of them will live on in the impact that they had on your life. Death is the final life experience, and to reduce it to morbid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:06 PM
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Yeah, it's not really an issue that around 40% of seniors are regularly lonely. Just handwave away the socially-isolated seniors who don't have kids or grandkids to visit them. If you are trying to get into a relationship out of a fear of spending your golden years alone, that's the wrong reason to get into a relationship. Nobody wants to date someone long-term who simply fears being single and isn't interested in them in a holistic way. That's not "the" reason to get married, but it is a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:55 PM
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Yes? Do you understand how tribal societies worked? Please go read a book on this subject. In fact it's theorized that women had more agency in tribal societies compared to agrarian ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:36 PM
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Women were bought and sold as property through most of human civilization. Women's choice in who they marry and reproduce with is a relatively short blimp in human history. You need to learn more history, you are woefully undereducated on this topic. Women, for only being a woman, have not been sold as property for most of human civilization, that is absolutely a lie. However, slavery has existed in human history, and both men and women were sold as slaves. This isn't some Handmaid's Tale type o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 05:33 PM
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I think you're referring to this post of yours. I have a love/hate relationship with the "men do romance" comment. I liked it initially because it outlined a lot of things that I don't think people think about it, but it was so quickly co-opted into the typical "women are completely passive in relationships," which isn't true at all. (continued...) I would define "active" as actions that progress a relationship or work towards building rapport with a specific person and "passive" as behaviors th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:16 PM
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It seems you're trying to draw a parallel here for sake of construing these two behaviors as equal? "Women getting dolled up and flirty = Men planning dates" And the intention of both of these behaviors is to receive attention from the opposite sex. Let's say it's to receive attention from a specific person that the behavior is targeted towards. Can you see how one behavior is far more passive than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:53 PM
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Getting dolled up and being flirty is meant to entertain men. No, women do it so they receive attention for men, not to entertain them for nothing in return. They do it because they can feel desirable and desired, and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:43 PM
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I said relationships, not romance and sex. There is far more to a relationship than that. But even then, to forgo romance or sex in one's life would make it far lesser and duller. When I say "the best part of life", I am referring to building a life together with another person, having someone you can rely on and that relies on you, creates children with you, is the person who has decided to spend their short existence with you. Few things in life can compare to that. The closest would be lifelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:01 AM
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OP, the women that you can get with those "skills" are not worth getting. Those women are damaged and have emotional issues, and a guy who was in a healthy LTR is better off avoiding those types of women. Women who are healthy don't date "players" , because they're not drawn to the emotional rollercoaster that those types of men provide for women who enjoy drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:24 PM
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OP, I'm sorry, but this is a dumb take. Relationships don't appear out of thin air, and they are the best part of life. You are just expressing how much pain you feel in the current dating world by stating such a zealous view in order to be seen by others, receive validation, and engage in combative dialogue that will lead you to be more entrenched in your perspective. Yes, there is a lot of shitty aspects to modern dating for men, but also for women. There are risks involved in dating, relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:13 PM
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OP, honestly I don't think you are mature enough to be dating or even be in a relationship. Having internet content affect your mental health so much that you view half of humanity with suspicion is not adult behavior. Similar to men who spend hours consuming misogynist content and think all women act in a certain way. Your mentality may even start to affect your relationship. I seriously suggest seeking therapy and cutting yourself off from the consumption of this toxic content. You might think…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:05 PM
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No, intimacy is the most important aspect of a relationship. Sex is usually part of intimacy, but intimacy is not relegated to physical acts. There's also emotional intimacy and the intimacy of sharing your life with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:53 AM
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No, most men don't get to learn all their likes and dislikes, because they don't have the same ease of finding partners that women do to establish that in the first place. You make a good point though, men shouldn't get married or enter a long term relationship until they have discovered their likes and dislikes in a partner, which you can only learn after having numerous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:00 AM
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If women are out there trying to find a real connection, then why do they get upset at men for not wanting to be with girl who has a high bodycount? The women who are seeking real connections wouldn't have a high bodycount to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:39 AM
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The relationship would change, because their view of their partner would change. It shows that their partner's standards may not come from a place of principled values, but from one of convenience. And this perspective not new, it's been around for as long as society has been around. Most people want to be with those that share their values, not "friends of fair weather".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:35 AM
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If a partner is chosen based on new standards, that partner has a right to know what the old standards were. The reason is that it could influence whether or not they choose to move forward in a relationship with that person. And if they choose not to, then changed standards and unchanged standards are not the same thing, because they can lead to different outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:01 AM
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Because people don't want to be the consolation prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:40 AM
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If that is how a person determined partners throughout their life, that's fine. But changing the qualities that they look for once they want to settle down is not acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:45 AM
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Can you understand how a man would feel if a woman chose him because of friendship, vs the men she chose in the past due to desire. If a man has never been the object of desire to a woman, but only chosen because of friendship qualities, he would feel like a consolation prize. It's like if a man chose a woman to be his wife because she would be a good mom and housewife. He doesn't physically desire her, but she fulfills his needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:10 PM
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So in general, men can look at an woman and if she is attractive, he desires her. Whereas, if women look at an a man, he not only has to be attractive, but also confident, charismatic, funny, etc. for her to desire him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:06 PM
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If most men are objectively unattractive, then women shouldn't date them. Women should only date men they find attractive, and it that means less relationships, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:02 PM
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if men dont want the DAD treatment and role THEN YOU HAVE TO BECOME THE CAD, its not WOMENS fault youre a DAD Isn't this the complaint of a lot of young women looking for a relationship? The men that would have made good long term relationships in an earlier era are now mostly looking to play the field and hookup with as many women as they can? They've adapted their behavior to be the type of guy that isn't looking for anything serious, which is to the detriment of women who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:49 PM
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That's a psychological disorder, not a sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:43 PM
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Sure bud, and enjoy consuming that manosphere content
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:42 AM
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Hint, its peace and quiet. And sex. As a guy, that's definitely not true. If that's all you want from a woman, you don't actually love her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:58 AM
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Okay, but it's not clear in what ways a man is contributing to society more if women's sexual freedoms are restricted If women's AND men's sexual freedoms are restricted. A non-liberal society's approach to restrict sexual behavior outside of committed relationships and to encourage of behavior that is a net-positive society can be approached in several ways. For example, in one type of "arranged marriage" society, families are involved in the selection of a potential partner for both parties. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:54 AM
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You people who catastrophize about some kind of hypothetical Handmaid's Tale type of scenario need to stop. Nobody wants that except a tiny minority of trolls. The majority of people, both men and women, want dating, relationships, and the dynamic between men and women to be enjoyable, which it isn't right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:08 PM
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I thought he explained it here liberation of the sexual market has led to a massive reduction in the incentivization of functional behavior and societal contribution among men and we continue to witness greater emphasis placed on the sexual hierarchy over the socioeconomic hierarchy My understanding of his point is that in a pre-sexually-liberal society, lifetime monogamy is the societal standard, and to get the best partner, a man must be a strong contributor to society. His social status was d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:08 PM
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This is just lazy straw-manning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:30 AM
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Here's my take coming from a guy's perspective. Society makes me feel that one's value as a man comes from one's utility, and a man that can't contribute is worse than useless. At least there's some innate biological urge men have to protect a random woman who doesn't do anything useful. But a useless man? That's someone that has to go. How useful are you to those around you? As a provider, as a protector, or even as a meat-shield. You walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the road, you st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:09 AM
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Here's a movie from almost 70 years ago about a guy talking about how all girls reject him and that he will likely never get married. Men feeling bad about not being attractive to women has occurred for the entirety of humanity's past. Your perspective of history is incomplete. People have been marrying for love for far longer than your brief lifetime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktXm7CRXbsE
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:42 AM
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Your mistake is assuming men and women view the world in the same way. You're projecting a women's perspective on to men, and it does not match men's experiences. As someone who was a teenage boy not too long ago, if a woman I found attractive wanted to sleep with men, I would have jumped at the opportunity regardless of age. A 14 year old boy sleeping with a 21 year old girl is a very different situation than a 14 year old girl sleeping with a 21 year old guy. In the name of "equality" these tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:49 PM
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Most people already intellectually know there could be a myriad of reasons for the rejection. The person who replied is explaining how it feels when a girl rejects you. It makes you feel worthless at that moment, especially if you don't approach women often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:19 AM
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Life your friend, I've volunteered at a retirement home when I was a teenager. The women there are flirty in a funny way for older people. Same with being hit on by gay guys. I don't think it's a big deal for most guys to be hit on by people they're not attracted to, as opposed to women who are more likely to be concerned for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:37 AM
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There's a big difference between getting attention from retirees and women in their 40's/50s. Young guys would enjoy the attention from the latter group for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:45 AM
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I suppose I should say that there are no innate human rights, just those that are socially constructed. What we choose to protect is arbitrary and based on norms of the time and place. I don't think guaranteed sex should be a human right, but there are some strange customs in history. One tale is that of ancient Babylon where women of all classes were required to visit the Temple of Aphrodite at a certain age and have sex with the first man that gave her some money. If she never received any mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:16 AM
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There are no human rights
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:19 AM
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I think those spaces are safer than ever compared to the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I think a lot of people have instead become in-person anti-social, because they'd rather consume streaming services, social media, videogames, etc. than interact with in-person strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:18 AM
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An asshole is an asshole, doesn't matter if they are a man, woman, attractive, unattractive, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:24 PM
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Here's one perspective. Monogamy requires never having another sexual partner again. For a woman who has had enough sexual partner novelty in her lifetime, that seems fine. However, a man may not be satisfied with the number of sexual partners he has had and will be sacrificing sexual partner novelty for a relationship with a woman. If that sacrifice seems too great, he will experience negative feelings. For example, if a woman has had twelve sexual partners and a man has had three, he might not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:14 PM
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There are women who get married and even have children in their 40s. You shouldn't be reading this sort of stuff on the internet if it's affecting you this much. Take a break from social media and the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:37 AM
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If a child has their food, water, and shelter needs met, why do they need parental love?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:42 PM
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Do children deserve parental love?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:12 PM
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In your world, she should still put out regardless of what she feels, because her actions from the previous relationship now forever dictate when she should fuck, in exchange for maintaining the relationship. That's the very definition of transactional. That's not what he's saying. Men don't want to be with women that are only sleeping with him to keep him in the relationship. There's no onus on the woman to put out at anytime. However, a man doesn't have to be in a relationship with a woman if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:47 PM
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Okay, and I disagree. I think there are things that we can abstract in that way, but you don't seem to think so. It doesn't look like we'll reach any productive consensus, so we should end this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:56 PM
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Certain communities can have norms and behavior patterns, but I'm referring to the general view of wider society, not an individual's personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:41 PM
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I don't understand your perspective. My post was a birds-eye depiction of society, and how societal norms to give men advice for dating women has changed over time. There isn't a conservative outlook on dating or progressive outlook on dating. There's just dating and those that participate in that activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:31 PM
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That's a strange question to ask. What does that have to do with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:25 PM
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Well yeah, society was far more conservative in the past than today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:19 PM
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I don't think it's usually dating advice. It's when a boy is praised in some way for their behavior. "You'll make a girl very happy some day", "A well-behaved gentleman", "All the girls will be fighting over you." These types of phrases are usually said to boys that do things that are nice, thoughtful, well-mannered, etc. I also think the "parent" is more of a proxy for society, and this type of encouragement by society for how to be attractive to women was more prevalent in the past. Women were…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:12 PM
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Damn, I'm sorry to hear that, that's messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:41 PM
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This is uncomfortably Freudian
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:39 PM
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it's a joke, bruv
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:30 PM
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I understand that there will be some women who will sleep with more men than they do now. However, I don't believe male sexlessness is caused by slut shaming. Rather, I think it's caused by social media, dating apps, lack of community, and different libidos between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:15 AM
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That might be a factor for some women, but I'm pretty sure most women don't want to sleep with more men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:43 AM
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I find that if you center your life on the pursuit of money and status, you'll never be satisfied. However, if you want a partner that makes/will make $500K a year, that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:31 AM
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I think you need to recognize when you're falling into a cycle of toxic ideas. Red pill men do the same thing: they have some bad experiences with women, start to think all women are like that, get validated online, and then create a misogynistic ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:28 AM
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brave
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:47 AM
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I don't think that's true, because I don't see women complaining about lack of sexual partners, rather it's the lack of enjoyable sex. Having more partners doesn't fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:47 AM
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You're not under any obligation to search for them. I just haven't seen those types of posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:41 AM
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Sexlessness probably wouldn’t be a thing if it weren’t for slut shaming. Can you explain? How is male sexlessness and slut shaming correlated?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:32 AM
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I haven't seen posts here that say women need to solve men's sexlessness problem. Can you link some?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:29 AM
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If I am understanding you correctly, it seems you've had negative experiences talking to guys that end up only wanting to sleep with you, and you're tired of trying to sift through all the guys on dating apps that were never interested in something serious. The process feels exhausting, and being wanted only for your body feels dehumanizing. Is that fair to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:36 PM
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I think you are forgetting that most women in history worked too and it was privileged to not have to be a maid, wet nurse, laundry woman, or seamstress. Even if you think most women had the ability to stay home, raising children and housework are definitely work. Often people who stay home have no guaranteed lunch or bathroom breaks; you're on call 24 hours/day. Whereas the man traditionally got to come home after a day of work and have the entire evening off, fed, clean-clothed, and attended t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:08 AM
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It's a mistake to think this place is representative of reality. I'd suggest you leave here before becoming bitter and jaded. Plenty of women look fine and find partners in their 30s. Even into your 40s if you take care of your skin and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:20 PM
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How can you not see that's selection bias. You're not going to see the people who's families are taking care of them, because they're not in nursing homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:05 PM
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I'll list some of the things I've seen in marriages of family members that are in traditional marriages. Your life is no longer your own, and even if you and your wife are supposed to make decisions 50/50, it's easier just to acquiesce to her rather than going through arguments where she'll paint you as the bad guy and add it to the list of things that you've done wrong. Happy wife, happy life. You won't be able to fully express yourself emotionally, because that might upset her. She won't see y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:57 PM
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True, but that's still tied to shame. For example, guy who wears shoe lifts and tries to hide that fact doesn't want to be excluded for his height. Or a guy who is a virgin, but doesn't tell a prospective partner about it, but that situation is a bit different than lying about promiscuity. All in all, I think hiding and lying about things leads to shame from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:26 PM
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Yes, I think this is mostly true, but the issue arises when those that weren't promiscuous having to potentially have monogamous relationships with those that were promiscuous. If no one lies about their past, I don't think people would have problems though. The lying comes from a desire to not be shamed, and I think if shaming was removed and people were truthful, a lot of issues would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:01 PM
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What's funny is how different we are. A lot of men would only need the silhouette of a woman's body to get turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:55 PM
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Well you're doing bad reasoning exactly how the manosphere types do. Cherry-pick examples to prove your point and extrapolate it to the entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:23 PM
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This is a great, thoughtful response
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:10 AM
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You think a youtube comment section is representative of men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:33 AM
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There are several men and women here who take an all or nothing perspective. Even in this post, there are women saying that no man is interested in women's sexual pleasure, or that there are no men interested in women beyond her body. Like the men who say women are only interested in his money, or that women are always looking for the next best thing. It's tiring and doesn't provide any value to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:00 PM
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I agree with you. However, my response is in regards to most men's feelings of promiscuous behavior, rather than rationality. The status of the men a woman sleeps with matters to men, but not as much as the number. They could have all been millionaire models before him, but if he considers the number previous sexual partners too high, he won't feel like committing to a long term monogamous relationship with that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:13 PM
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Really doesn’t matter because we don’t live in small tribes Our bodies don't know that. The same hormones and neurological processes that developed in our ancestors are still in us today. It's not rational, just a deep innate feeling, and women don't seem to have that feeling to the same degree. We can go against our nature, but how many people are going to do that? I think women should do whatever it is they want, but you also can't control how other people react to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:26 PM
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The human body has not adjusted to a globalized world. Our evolution took place in small tribes of a few hundred people. That is the context in which human sexuality evolved, so the emotions that men have when hearing that a prospective partner has had several sexual partners before him is being experienced in a human body that does not take into account the vastness of the modern social landscape. How do you feel when men complain about women not wanting to date shorter men? Women developed tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:30 PM
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You know that pornography is a category of video, and not just one group of people producing it, right? None of those things you mentioned are necessary to produce a pornographic video. Do you not watch any movies because of people like Harvey Weinstein or Roman Polanski? Do you avoid purchasing clothing or electronics, because some companies source from manufacturers with harmful business practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:03 AM
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All of those, when done in excess, can have severe impacts on one's body, mind, and/or relationships. A puritanical approach is just not psychologically feasible in the modern world. I would instead opt for a healthy understanding and moderation in behavior, like with most vices. One should only abstain in the case of addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:42 AM
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There are also people who have never eaten junk food, never watched a trashy reality tv show, never gone a week without exercising, never wasted their time on social media, etc. If you've done any of those, I'd say it's best to hold your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:20 AM
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You've never been a teenage boy. Unless you've taken exogenous testosterone, you'll never be able to fathom being a boy going through puberty with access to seeing every type of woman not just naked, but sexually, right at your fingertips. It's far easier to stay abstinent than avoid porn in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:04 AM
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it still happens in courts all over the world
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:37 PM
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I assume you live in a Western country, as do I. You can't expect every single country in the world to adhere to a single cultural standard. You can't expect every single person to adhere to a single standard of sexual acceptability. There are so many movies and tv shows depicting women's sexuality. How much media needs to exist for your perspective to change? Also, if a woman is being shamed by her boyfriend for sexual behavior that she enjoys, then she should leave him. She can't expect him to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:17 PM
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RP is a tiny corner of the internet and doesn't reflect mainstream society. They are a tiny minority of people. The women that consume RP content are exposing themselves to shaming language for no reason and hurting themselves in the process. Sure, there are probably lingering effects of shame from the past, but how many female comedians openly joke about their sex lives? Also, many woman on social media talk openly about sex and relationships. It's acceptable and almost expected that women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:46 PM
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I understand that "slut shaming" was more prevalent in the past. However, I don't see mainstream society slut shaming women anymore. In fact, women are encouraged to explore their sexuality and not to feel shame about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:51 PM
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How does society shame women for being sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:35 PM
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A tiny percentage of tax money goes to infrastructure. The vast majority goes to children (education), the poor (poverty programs), the sick (healthcare), and the elderly (social security/pensions/healthcare).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:01 PM
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The majority of human communication is nonverbal. Things don't need to be explicitly said for people to speculate on traits or behaviors, though what people say is taken into account. Body language, facial expressions, voice intonation, treatment of service staff, treatment of strangers, reactions to certain scenarios, etc. Those are just a few things we use, consciously or not, to figure out who someone is. It's not an exact science and won't give you a whole picture of someone, but it's where …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:22 PM
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Matt Damon married a bartender who was a single mom
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:59 PM
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I reject the idea that language can be shaming. I have no control over your emotions, and only you can choose to feel shame. I choose not to engage in debate with you, because it would be pointless. We have fundamentally different perspectives of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:27 AM
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I'm not trying to shame you. Shame is a feeling that arises from oneself. You are arguing with yourself and your perceived version of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:03 AM
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I'm sorry you have such a negative view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:24 AM
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I don't think you know what "romantic" means
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:07 PM
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Well yeah, because men and women have different average base strengths. A man doing 10 pullups is not impressive, because an average guy could do that after a couple weeks of training. However, it would takes months of dedication for the average woman to do 10 pullups, which men do find impressive. An obese man or an extremely old man doing 10 pullups would be impressive as well, since it is not the norm for their demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:56 PM
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I disagree, most people find a woman doing 10 pullups far more impressive than a man doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:11 PM
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Are women not interacting with men to the extent that they want? Do women want to date and sleep with more men, but societal shame is preventing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:09 PM
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I think women who pay e-boys money are pathetic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:21 PM
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I do blame them. I think they're pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:55 PM
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Those are two different groups of men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:24 PM
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Yeah, I've felt similarly. What's the point of entering a monogamous relationship with a woman who doesn't respect herself enough to not sleep with people who don't respect her? Those aren't women you want to enter a relationship with, because they will sabotage the relationship from their low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:22 AM
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I believe the issues espoused in this subreddit are a symptom of a larger phenomenon of atomization in modern, developed countries. A society where social ties are no longer required to have your needs met, rather they can be met through commerce. This is because a business that specializes in a product or service fulfills your needs more efficiently and with higher quality relative to friends and family. For example, why go through the trouble of having friends help you move if you can just pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:11 AM
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The solution is that men and women will have to adapt to the ever-changing circumstances of the dating market, while others succumb to whatever psychological distress occurs from not engaging in sexual relationships or having committed long term relationships. Similar to the deindustrialization of parts of the US which led to depression, suicides, addiction, and lower life expectancies, there will be a certain percentage of people who will experience the negative byproducts of the technologies a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:38 AM
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Also, a lot of stuff I see online demonstrates to me that most women accept the bare minimum. The questions that women ask on Reddit also shows that many of them are with thoughtless partners and they accept poor behaviour. You're more likely to see people in unhappy relationships than couples that are boringly happy together. The former stimulates emotions and increases engagement with the post (i.e. the parroting comments that "the bar is literally in hell"). The questions that are asked are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:33 PM
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I think most men are capable of finding someone. I just think that it might only happen once in their entire life, or only twice, or only three times, etc. That they may spend long stretches in between people. And that trying to increase artificially it is an exercise in wasted time, lying, and warping their own mind. Let's assume that this is true. Considering hookup culture, where any woman could potentially sleep with as many men as she wants, why do so many people push back on men caring abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:18 PM
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Yes, pretty much. Though that is less actively dating, and more so doing things that I enjoy with the hopes of meeting a woman I'm interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:06 PM
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Yeah, for now. I'll have to make myself more attractive and try to get better pictures before considering using them again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:50 PM
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Uhh...no. Did you even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:09 PM
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Thanks for your insight, it's helpful to hear a woman's perspective on this. Yeah, I think the illusion of abundance leads to some strange outcomes. We've never been able to peruse through so many people to consider as potential partners. It's a bit like going to the toothpaste aisle and wondering which toothpaste would be optimal out of the dozens of options. Where the guys are the toothpaste, but there are thousands to choose from. Very interesting times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:30 AM
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One explanation given by those groups is that women are hypergamous and only want the top percentage of men in regards to height, income, and social status. I do think that women care about those traits to an extent, but they care more about other traits, such as character, humor, charisma, empathy, etc. None of which can be captured by dating apps, which is why they're poor platforms to base your opinions of the world on. I think the direction society has been heading with the Internet, where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:10 AM
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Yes, I am of South Asian descent. And I understand how quickly people move from one profile to the next, which can result in one attribute (in this case race) being the deciding factor for someone to swipe left. It's disheartening, but it's reality. I would love to date a woman of my ethnicity, since she would share certain cultural aspects, though the downside being that there's far fewer of us as a percentage of the total population where I live. And to answer your question, I would get better…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:57 AM
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Read the post more carefully, that's exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:28 AM
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Fair enough, all your points may very well be true. As for dating apps, the juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:26 AM
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The women whose pictures I wasn't physically attracted to had other traits that made them attractive, like shared interests. Because physical beauty is only skin deep, and someone's character is what I find attractive. I never treat anyone as disposable. Though instead, you suggest I should go purely off looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:25 AM
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You're projecting buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:58 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:58 AM
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Read the text of post a bit more carefully then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:53 AM
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You have a bit of an absolutist mentality, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:52 AM
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Pursue doesn't mean I'd actually have them lol. I just feel a bit jaded right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:51 AM
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No, I genuinely try to take interest in them as a person. Just because I might not be attracted to the pictures they posted, doesn't make them someone I wouldn't value. And people look different in person than they do in pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:41 AM
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I'm not blaming women. I recognized those feelings in myself and understood where they came from. It's not the fault of "women", but the structure of dating apps can lead men to have those feelings, which in turn leads them to become misogynist. And I don't think they should do that. I thought you ladies wanted men to be more emotionally aware. I am, but it seems like you're searching for a narrative to prove to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:37 AM
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The girls seem to be able find dates just fine. For the guys, some get dates and some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:34 AM
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I don't think you've been on the guy's end of these conversations. There's no back and forth. I try to have an interesting conversation, and most replies are dull statements with nothing to grab a hold of. Which I guess is understandable if they're talking to a dozen other people at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:31 AM
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I'm curious, what age group are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:28 AM
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The first is believing that dating apps are the end all be all of dating. Yes dating apps exist but it’s a tool of “convenience’ (ideally speaking). The average guy can still go out and interact with (likely better) women and have better results with less effort. Dating apps don’t take anything away from that. I agree with you here. However, the part where we differ is that dating apps have become the ubiquitous way of dating for my generation (people in their 20s). And I feel as if there's incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:27 AM
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Sure, I agree. Though I would prefer if those that weren't attracted to me would not match with me in the first place, rather than using me as an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:17 AM
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I am South Asian. And yes, I am aware of that. I was describing what someone who is less emotionally mature may feel in a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:15 AM
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“How else am I supposed to meet women?” Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, real world interaction? Do you not have a job? Friends? I recently moved to a large city for a new job. I don't have any social connections here yet. Sure, eventually I'll meet some women, but social circles can take months to form. Young, single people move often, and online dating is used by just about everyone I know who is single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:13 AM
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