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Are you saying you need one-itis to have love, marriage, kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 06:57 PM
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A similar message between our two warnings. As a woman who frequently lurks RP and MRP, I always saw a similarity in these two concepts and wondered about their overlap. Thanks for the polite discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 06:19 PM
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No, because nearly all women intuitively understand this already. Except for: A woman who was really, really sexually attracted to a man and then he leaves her/breaks up with her So then, it would make sense to warn women that, "He's not yours, you're a 'next' away from being gone" when it comes to a man she's really, really sexually attracted too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 06:11 PM
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Gotcha. That's why I was asking for clarification. Would it be similarly useful for a woman to adopt the "He's not yours, you're a 'next' away from being gone?" mentality to avoid one-itis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 05:59 PM
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She's next-ing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 05:47 PM
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How about from the female perspective? In RP - She's never yours, it's just your turn = She can't love you the way you want to be loved, she can find someone else... (hypergamy) But isn't that the same thing at next-ing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 05:40 PM
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Women are, unfortunately, often their own worst enemies. This is true for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:10 PM
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I'm saying that using your personal experience to try and prove or disprove a statement or act like it you're contributing to a discussion in any meaningful way is fucking stupid. This is the foundation of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 11:26 AM
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Comparing an entire diverse group is retarded. I agree. RP only talks in terms of generalization, this sort of shit is SJW level of "All men are rapists" and "All black people are oppressed" I agree. A pre-university level of understanding of science would let you know that you can't fucking talk about large groups of diverse things in specifics. You can only address it generally. I agree. Shut the fuck up. Wow what a jump (and a rude one at that.) Including non-youth women into a selection samp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 11:23 AM
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the vast majority of the youth population When doing the stats of all men v all women can you really only count the youth population?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 03:48 AM
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When a post is about someone's experience, and you call that experience "fucking stupid" that is a personal attack. You know that, I know that, and the hairs you split know that. There's no point in having a discussion if you only show up to disregard experiences other than your own and add nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 02:28 PM
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how do people make posts this fucking stupid? I followed your personal attack lead, Capt'n.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 02:51 AM
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You seem fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:09 PM
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...kinda ya. But add 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 04:11 AM
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Lol I give my man plenty of unconditional love and he is nothing like Chad. Good luck to you. I wish you luck and hope that you don't live in your own self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:04 PM
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Wow I wasted too much time on this. It fuels a very strange fire in my veins. Feel better! I enjoyed your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:27 PM
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Very true and an important differentiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 08:04 PM
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I merely see value in men and in women beyond what they can provide me, be it in bed or marriage. you're only hurting women, which i don't care all that much about You don't care much about women in general or women's care for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:55 PM
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Nah - more like: Dear marriage, fuck you. Dear men, thank you. Dear women, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:47 PM
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Thank you for the statistics. I enjoy living among the anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:43 PM
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I'd love to see your stats. I live in a big city and see people caring or uncaring about marriage equally. But, you know, anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:38 PM
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Yes you can. I don't understand why that is irrelevant, except that it undermines redpill dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:22 PM
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I'm confused, why does it matter if a specific woman doesn't think male attention is worth the price of male commitment as you describe it? We wouldn't be where we are if women decided to be spoiled brats who expect men to do everything for them with nothing in return. No one is asking anything of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 07:07 PM
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I think the one healthy thing redpill does for men is teach them to value themselves outside of what they bring to a woman. This creates confidence and self-worth. It is internalized and not about women at all. Some men do shut down and become noncommunicative in their relationships and I think that is a self-fulfilling prophecy for an unhappy relationship for one or both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 06:56 PM
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I laughed. . .but I'm a woman so it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:09 PM
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I never realized how rare it was for a man to be loved for who he was instead of what he could provide or how he made someone feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:02 PM
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29F All types but mostly businessmen, construction guys, coffee baristas, etc., since I spend a lot of time downtown. It makes me feel like I must look good on my way to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 06:48 PM
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Or, you know, she is just answering the question OP asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:12 PM
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There are established trends. Yes, yes there are. We can both Google until the sun comes up and find articles that support our theories. Maybe it's both, depending on the woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:41 PM
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Up until a certain point in my own life I'd prefer chocolate to sex because the sex I had up to that point was very one-sided. I'm definitely not saying that is what all the women in that article think, though. All women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:01 PM
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I think that once a woman gets to the point where she finds pleasure in sex she's more likely to want it more and/or masturbate more. At least, this is my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:53 PM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:46 PM
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This dude is succumbing to his feelings - like a woman would. Like a person would. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:02 PM
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Couldn't you say that the inverse is true, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 09:16 PM
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It is alpha male behavior. And female behavior. But it's the opposite of average beta male behavior. Ah I see, thank you for clarifying. The average man doesn't see his relationship as "yeah we'll stay together as long as it's fun and we are happy". He is far more serious about it. This will go OT but I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. My bf and I often talk about our mutual goal of long-term companionship and how it is a goal for us and our relationship. But we also remind ourselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 09:13 PM
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Yes I agree. I did not want to put the edit, the mods asked for detail. I'm looking for answers/discussion based on the actual question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:56 PM
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Oooh I like this post! Thank you for replying. How would you compare what I've said about myself to TRP definition of how a man views himself and his relationship? I read everything I said as very alpha-male/OI behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:11 PM
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On the flip side, I will have wet dreams if I don't orgasms within a month. Especially as I age, orgasming is now a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:44 PM
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Beauty, style and makeup are "something" to someone. To me, lifting accounts are just about showing off muscles. Both are exactly the same, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:37 PM
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Exceptions don't prove the rule. But that's the point of this thread. Doesn't matter. I can still sympathize with that story, as can many on TRP. That's the point. I get that. I was only saying that you did what I did - found an online community that helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:50 PM
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Ah you're right. That was a response to you questioning my relationship. Ciao!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:47 PM
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In general these things track gender. Attention whoring on social media, for instance, is overwhelmingly a female thing. Except all the male instagram accounts about lifting disprove this to a degree. Overall I agree, but this thread is about not meeting TRP descriptions of gender. Not all women do this. No. I can. There's a reason that story is sidebarred: it's not an exotic experience for the men who come to TRP. Something stopped you, just like something stopped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:44 PM
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I lurk their daily and have read their stories but I don't even know what were talking about anymore. This was a discussion about child support. Good day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:40 PM
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Nah - most seem content, just want more/better sex and advice on how to deal with shit and comfort tests. Their goal is to stay married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:37 PM
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It's a question of degree and context. Men generally don't post their trivial problems on Facebook looking for net.lovies in return, which is "attention and validation seeking" in the typical context as discussed on TRP. I see, same desires different outlet. The degree and context are based on individuals, not gender. Can you imagine being so lonely that you want to kill yourself to stop the pain? No. I've been lonely and isolated and ostracized before but I usually found online communities and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:33 PM
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Hah. Every man on MRP will state this as a worry. If you're in a relationship not wondering what will happen if things go sour than you're naive. But thank you for the unrequested relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:28 PM
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That article is from 2002 so their may be more states (or less) now. I agree with the problem. I disagree it's gender specific. I know statistically more woman than men obtain child support but you can file for misappropriation of cs payments. Also, as someone who makes more than their partner - it is something I worry about if we have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:25 PM
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Attention and validation seeking are usually seen as female traits in TRP. Do you agree they are gender neutral?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:21 PM
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Do you relate to TRP description of the average man? What is TRP description of an average woman, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:20 PM
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I have a coworker doing this to his ex right now. Also, some states have child support accounting laws and if you show misuse you can lose custody. x
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:17 PM
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It's an income stream for his children, which she completely entirely controls, and for which she doesn't have to account. She or he can be called into court for misappropriation of child support payments. "true joint custody" would be exactly 50/50 residential custody, which almost never happens. Or its 30/70 with the partner making more paying, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 06:04 PM
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Am I a unicorn too since I'm bi? Edit: But you're right. This is exactly why I didn't put any personal details in OP until I was asked too by the mods. I wanted the discussion to be about others and not myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:55 PM
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It's an income stream from him to his children. Also, if true joint custody is awarded the higher paid partner can be ordered to pay the lower paid partner child support, regardless of gender. Men ask for alimony less than women even if they should economically obtain it in the eyes of the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:51 PM
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Unless she is making more than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:45 PM
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I think it's all about how high or low a person's standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:44 PM
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I added some more to the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:00 PM
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I'll edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:50 PM
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Though perhaps it'd be a better discussion if you said why? Why a person would think it does not describe them or why I think like it does not describe me? The goal was to open it up to everyone. I do not want to skew answers with my own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:23 PM
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FWIW, I would say to someone like your husband, "Just be aware of AWALT (followed by a neutral description of female nature and what can be and often is important to women) so you can better anticipate and proactively address aspects of the relationship that might turn out to be important to your wife." Elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 01:36 AM
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Both are extreme, uncompromising and walk around with their fingers in their ears refusing to view the opposite gender as a human being with a similar range of feelings and desires as their own gender. Edit: generalizing for effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:48 PM
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Combat training for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:30 PM
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Not only women freeze up -men do too. As an example: Back in the groove. A few times I have seen some of my soldiers hesitate or even freeze. Chaperones for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:16 PM
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Does your "simply exist" strategy for a woman to attracted a certain man apply to every women of every age with every body type?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 01:39 PM
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What if they liked being used? Though I'm not quite sure what we're talking about here. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:20 PM
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Intrigued.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:17 PM
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Aye lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:16 PM
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I didn't create the tactic, I'm literally quoting /r/marriedredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:34 PM
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My goal in this question is one of the main the redpill goals - More frequent, enthusiastic and kinky sex within a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:07 PM
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My goal in this question is one of the main the redpill goals - More frequent, enthusiastic and kinky sex within a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:07 PM
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This seems so simple to me and as someone who values and loves sex, it also applies to how I function in relationships. There's a direct correlation between my LTR being the best sex I've had and him being my LTR. My question was more general though, not for my own relationship. Can I dread my way or redpill my way into kinkier sex or is default communication the way all redpillers go about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:59 PM
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This comes with a big, fat, it depends. I see that being the case, I was referring to both types of men so I appreciate your breakdown. Likewise, working out and finding awesome hobbies and becoming a better person -- that's not going to "dread" a guy with options. If anything, he'll appreciate that you're working on something besides Facebook. But will it lead to more, kinkier sex like say a man finding a passion may make him more attractive in the eyes of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:43 PM
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What sorts of performances does he do? If an alpha man is hot enough the girls will come to him (dread) and if he's IDGAF enough they will pursue him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:40 PM
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I disagree - isn't the epitome of alpha someone who acts on their own for themselves? Their frame is who they are as a default not as some act. That frame, ideally, is supposed to attract women and inspire dread in their partners in and out of itself without it being an act at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:30 PM
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If you take the alpha male persona into account, doesn't his default existence inspire dread?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:23 PM
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Much like I've read on MRP: Hugs and kisses solely as foreplay. Cuddles only after sex. Everything is an overture for sex and being sweet and accommodating only occurs after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:22 PM
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We're only the experts in guy game.... Not how girls can use it and how guys would respond. I'm wondering if anyone does have experience with this though and it seems like some do with dread. I think other tactics may be universal too though, as you say, most redpillers are focused on gaming girls not guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:11 PM
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Nah I just read on MRP about only providing affection to their wives as a reward for being sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:07 PM
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So, for instance the dread game or withholding affection unless sex is involved is something you believe wouldn't work on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:57 PM
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Then her sexual consent isn't because she's attracted to you but because she fears you leaving? Hang on...... Just WHY is she fearing you leaving UNLESS she has started to regard you as a sexual partner worth keeping ? I can think of so many reasons: Stubbornness, family unit, not wanting to be single, apathy, fear of the unknown, maybe he makes good pancakes etc I don't think you can separate those emotions as much as you are doing. If a guy is the kind of guy you suddenly discover you really, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:38 PM
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Consequently, if you have employed DG correctly.... and your wife is responsive to it... She is physically attracted to you again, instinctively and naturally. So if you DG her and create THAT.... THIS is when you actually get to sleep with a woman who physically desires to do so based on her own innate instinctive attraction. I looked at the link and what you said above and I can see how imparting dread could make her realize you are in better shape and more attractive. However, once you get to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 02:47 PM
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....is this manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:14 PM
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Oh trust me, it's leggings and Long Johns season at our house. Usually someone's on their knees within an hour of getting home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:11 PM
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Ah yes, the whole "say what you mean, I'm not a mind reader" dynamic. It goes nicely (/s) with women's learned behavior of being deferential. My SO underwent our own conversations about communication and how I need to be more direct shortly after moving in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:36 PM
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I think what is being alluded to, but for some reason not outright stated, is that you can't have proposition A without proposition B. The increased level of desire will trigger the increased level of dread. Unless there is certainty in the relationship which MRP advises against. Is this the same for men dating hotter women or women with a higher smv? The desire/dread scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:33 PM
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You need to realize that desire is not exactly binary. Say you're in a LTR and things are slowing down a bit and she's not putting out as much. The BP advice is to start being more giving toward her (more chores etc.). As we know this is horrible advice. See my advice would be to hit the gym and have both parties start planning date night The TRP advice is the opposite. This is a situation where dread game would be useful to you. Make yourself appear more valuable (abundance of options) thereby …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 07:09 PM
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Come on. "low libido" and "sex isn't a priority for her are euphemisms for "not attracted to her husband." Maybe. I haven't experienced either so I'm willing to concede this to you. No amount of dread will make a woman fuck if she has decided she is not going to fuck. All dread can do is gently influence her to go in the direction she's disposed to go. Dread is pressure applied to a woman in increasing degrees for the purpose of influencing her to either (a) comply with the man's wants, needs an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:59 PM
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Can't you be insecure about losing someone you don't sexually desire though? And then, are you okay with her copulation to secure you even if she goes not desire you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:54 PM
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I see what you're saying. The method is the same either way, the outcome is determined by the woman not the man. So you're left doing the same actions (getting abs) regardless. I guess I wonder if one outcome is more preferential over the other? I'm guessing not the one fueled insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:51 PM
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I guess - or maybe she has a low libido and sex isn't a priority for her and the man is her best friend? Who knows, I'm just spit balling here. It's sorta moved OT anyway since I was more wondering about how red pillers think of dread-fuelled-sex but I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:47 PM
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Apologies. How are you supposed to get the response of "you're hot" without also thinking "all these other women want to fuck you?" Was that the crux of your question? Honestly, I think this thought pattern is based on the individual. I think it is possible to check out another man or my own man and think - damn I want him. The fact that other people may want him will never cross my mind unless he actively points to people checking him out. Then I usually think, oh they want to fuck him. But it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:44 PM
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I see them as two very different things. One is a carnal desire to have a man because he turns me on and I want them. The other is, oh I need to keep him around for whatever reason, time to fuck his new abs even if I'm really not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:33 PM
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Even in a situation where a woman is having sex with her man because of dread, i.e., she is compliant and is meeting his wants, needs and desires because she is afraid of losing him, it is because she desires him. Because if she she didn't desire him, she'd be gone. But you can desire someone's presence without desiring them sexually. If you want them around enough to be a father or a provider or what have you, I imagine you can put up with maintaining a healthy sex life with someone you don't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:31 PM
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Right. Which I understand. Who doesn't love a hot bod? The dread game though, seems like you're only getting action from that avenue because of insecurity, not cause she actually wants you. Is that the goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:58 PM
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I don't think you're correct that most feminists are against legal prostitution. EDIT: The ones that are, I imagine, believe it factors into sex trafficking and the exploitation of minors and very young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:11 PM
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But there's a recognized divide within feminism that shows that a good sized portion of identified feminists support prostitution, pornography, etc. It's not always "used" in such a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:19 PM
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I have a background in law. On the books, Family Law in certain jurisdictions can be fair and equitable to both parties. I was exposed to stories where enforcement of those laws resulted in different outcomes than what I prevously perceived. There are no male sexual domestic violence resources or shelters. Wtf. People suck and either gender can leave theirs or the other hurt and broken. Also, learned about the wall and smv and all things redpill and I guess purplepill through a Men's Rights rabb…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 10:17 PM
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I find lurking their pretty interesting. Makes me think about things I hadn't considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:48 PM
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It frowns on coerced prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:54 PM
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Both please. Not possible? The hot man, as long as he also has a very attractive personality as well. I make enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 04:34 AM
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Nothing will ever be impressive to everyone and something will always be impressive to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 05:36 AM
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Cookie for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 02:11 PM
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Like attract like. Shallow attract shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:48 PM
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But isn't that just confirmation bias? I believe a premise so I will only look towards the type that conform my premise? People in that age are inherently selfish. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_Egocentrism I know incredibly selfless people of both genders but they're generally old enough to have gained some life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:30 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 09:18 PM
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But by your definition of Empathy, it cannot exist at all. No one can ever literally be in someone else's shoes until they actually become that person (rich to poor; female to male; native to foreigner; etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:46 PM
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Worst demographic to make sweeping generalizations with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 08:26 PM
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Thanks. Ya the "out" of "inside and out" was meant to capture the looking good a sentiment. I agree with the being v. doing. It's better to find someone who simply is the type of person you like than try to encourage them to do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 11:07 PM
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I think both "games" have more to do with improving yourself inside and out, having something to bring to the table be it cooking or just bettering yourself in general. Be interesting, be pleasant, be kind, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 03:17 PM
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In America you are able to terminate your parental rights and no longer have to pay child support. http://singleparents.about.com/od/legalissues/a/termination_parental_rights.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 05:27 AM
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You - you there! Your broad shoulders are unconsciously distracting me and turning me on. There, you've been made aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 10:17 PM
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Should you call them out on it? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:50 PM
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Time to fuck your mothers, guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 03:10 PM
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Hell I'm a woman and that description of us makes me want a sex change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 03:05 PM
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Once you're used to a double income life, it's hard to go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:57 PM
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We're not going to apologize for it. Not asking you too. I was merely asking for the intent which you answered really well. For you, the intent isn't to dehumanize but to categorize. Thanks for answering!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:14 PM
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Then don't let yourself be turned into a plate that can be spun. This is interesting. What makes a plate in TRP? It's the difference between LTR material and "low-SMV" women, from TRP perspective? Or is it like a ladder: acquaintance > plate > LTR? I'm off the market indefinitely, so no I won't be spinning any time soon. I appreciate your concern though ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:11 PM
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Well ya, dehumaniziation is dehumanizing when anyone does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:02 PM
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The better question is why is this bad as you seem to imply? I was more curious about the intent. Is the intention to dehumanize women by calling them plates or is it solely an easy metaphor for dating? If the intent is to dehumanize, I find fault in that solely because it decreases empathy. But from TRP perspective I can see decreasing empathy for women to be an important part of the game, so it's only my subjective opinion that it is bad being that I am a human who does not like to be dehumani…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 03:55 PM
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It's interesting because in my answer I was considering ambitious and educated as part of 1 not 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:45 AM
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I'm just not sure. A troll or not a troll? The uncertainty alone means it's time to get off reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:31 AM
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2 > 1 > 3 For top attribute, It's hard to choose between 2 and 1 because 2 is what starts everything off. I've dated people I'm my attracted too and I can never really spark with them. However, the type I've found attractive is varied physically so I imagine 1 has something to do with it. Personality keeps me around. It makes me wait anxiously until the next time I see you and causes most of the moments I'll hold close to my heart. 1 is so important. But I probably won't get to 1 without 2. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:26 AM
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Except the thing is I don't think it was rape. We were in my room, in my bed, near naked, after a nice date. I didn't want it but I didn't use my words. Well actually that's not true. His dick was by my hand I said, "maybe we shouldn't", he said "come on" then slid right in. That was it. In my mind I was like, so this is happening and happen it did. We dated for a few months after and everything because I didn't want it to be this one time thing and we got along well enough. I was meek. I was ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 12:13 AM
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I'll give you that. :) Lots of people doesn't have to mean lots of money either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:18 PM
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IIRC (had to Google that one!) it said that people of both genders want different things out of short term and long term partners. In the long term, the evolutionary needs for women did not align with reality (men want over 20 partners in their lifetime, I learned) so wouldn't it make more sense to reset your desires and life plan to align with reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:57 PM
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Similarly, even if a woman may not want a wedding, she does want the romance, and all the related gestures. Deeply. Doesn't everyone want romance? Romance =/= marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:52 PM
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I agree with this and it furthers my belief that there is zero incentive for a woman to get married. Why not just stay in a relationship, play out the goals (children, travel, etc.) and love then part ways when both see fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:42 PM
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I'm saying that the study is TRUE so where is the incentive to get married when it concludes that long term partnering fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:38 PM
0

Are you sure? Emory University found that couples who spend less on their wedding tend to have longer-lasting marriages. The study found a correlation between less-expensive engagement rings and lower divorce rates. In terms of dollars, women who spent more than $20,000 on a wedding divorced 1.6 times more than those who had $5,000 to $10,000 weddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:35 PM
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There is definitely a sample bias. You have to be a specific type of woman and a specific type of man to even find this subreddit. My man's always like, "so what hole did you fall through again to find people with these opinions?", when I mention something from TRP, RPW or PPD. I know I'm independent and not materialistic and also very curious about other people's perspectives and life paths. The Red Pill is a treasure trove for me. But ya, I agree with you. Sample bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:30 PM
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I'm just a woman. I don't really know how to classify myself but spending a small fortune on a wedding is absurd. Some people are just rational human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:25 PM
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A man doesn't leave a woman? This happens maybe not as often as the stat peddled here about 70% of women initiating divorce but some of those divorces are initiated because of infidelity on the part the man. Do you mean that because of alimony (awarded when one partner left the workforce) ties them together indefinitely or do you actually mean a man doesn't leave a marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:21 PM
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Male writers admit to needing financial support as well. I kind of posted stats about how often it is that men are supported by wives. The thing is, men being supported by women is extremely uncommon. Men are often divorced or dumped when they lose their job. They don't get afforded the freedom to pursue their passions by wives. I see this opinion all the time here and believe it. However, I've supported my man for a year while he was without a job. I must be an outlier. Nope. Your OP said nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:14 PM
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That article is from 1993, only 18 years after a woman was capable of opening her own bank account. Moreover that study seems to prove that long term mating is rare for both genders so wouldn't that just prove a lack of incentive for marriage? Why invest all that time into something that won't last when you could just be in a relationship with a man, have a baby, then allow both parties to move on when it is no longer enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:07 PM
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Well, it was sarcasm. Hence the "I'm being playful emoji."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:40 PM
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I find reddit completely reliable in all fields ;) I think gift giving is a personality trait, you either possess it or you don't, when it comes to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:16 PM
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Male writers admit to needing financial support as well. Source: Stephen Kings memoir. I think it's important to remember that success is subjective. Not everyone thinks being a billionaire (and working as hard as you'd need to become one) is a successful life. I actually asked this question months back in askmen: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2mo8lg/how_do_you_define_success/ We were discussing forming a relevant and successful life without marriage and I don't think that equates to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:09 PM
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I've always seen couples give each other gifts. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2whz78/whats_the_best_gift_youve_received_from_an_so/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:57 PM
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Generally don't form their own life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:53 PM
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And just the other day I read on PPD that women are the ones who can't empathize. Sure, you have preferences and you have the visual reality of what turns you on. I can empathize with all of that. No one is asking you to date this woman. But can you really not emphasize with a 50 year old woman who is looking to date a man, any man, and finds no one out there looking to date her (and a large demographic) back? Shrug. I can see this from all sides. All it seems to me is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:51 PM
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It's the oldest profession for a reason. A endlessly reliable way to pay the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:34 PM
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I like your tag and your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 07:43 PM
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I feel this is higher than most women already, which already means you're more likely to misinterpret a smile as something more if she smiles at you during one of these moments you're thinking about sex. I'm just piping on to offer my opinion. Ever since I put nsfw subreddits on my Front Page, I think about sex apt 3-5 times an hour... and that's conservative estimate. I wonder how much environmental factors fit into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:06 PM
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not having to testify against each other in court. Oooh a new incentive no one's considered. Could be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:37 PM
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Now I'm pregnant and the sex frequency has ramped up to "please leave me alone, my penis is chafed". Not pregnant but we moved in together 6 months ago and I've heard this line. I'm calling bullshit ;) Disclaimer: this is a joke. I understand men can chaff and moreover don't want sex all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:27 PM
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Haha that's horrible. I wonder if the ring wasn't a tradition if marriage numbers would drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:23 PM
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I think this becomes less true as you get older and learn the value of a dollar but that's just a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:21 PM
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...I haven't downvoted anyone. I think some women find joy in the things you've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:10 PM
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More the latter when I wrote it, but I'm sure many women would also see the first as a plus, especially in adverse circumstances (extremely violent areas). We had a loud noise in the middle of the night the other evening. My man jumped out of bed with the knife he keeps in the bed frame, I hardly woke up. We've been living together for about 6 months now and this is the first time I realized, outside of niceties, that he would try to protect us. Between that and traveling recently to a place kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:10 PM
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Hmm it's popular in my group is friends. Lots of watches in exchange for rings. I guess it depends on who you surround yourself with but you seem to be right more or less: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1wbipr/women_who_arewere_engaged_did_you_get_your_fiancé/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:01 PM
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Elope! If my man ever I ever take the plunge (we're in the talking about it phase) I'm pushing for court house all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:56 PM
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Kill me now. But you're right. Some women get off on event planning like it's the best sex marathon ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:54 PM
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Isn't this only if they are not the primary breadwinner? I know that statistically they aren't and statistically the woman stays home to raise kids so she's "entitled" to alimony. Couldn't that all be switched if the man stays home and/or makes less money?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:53 PM
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That's shitty. No one should marry a shitty woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:51 PM
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A very strange tradition in my opinion. Isn't a groom gift also mandatory though? I heard they get a watch or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:46 PM
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Is it though? Most women I know dread planning the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:44 PM
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And men don't have that goal? Easier to do when you're married and paternity is presumed. We are both also assuming that said man and woman want children. Edit: are we arguing? I had my discussion tone going on in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:39 PM
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Don't those same studies say the same thing about married men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:38 PM
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Medical decision-making is a huge benefit I hadn't considered. Kudos!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:37 PM
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Well I guess the only solution is to marry more than once! Though, also, somehow my dad keeps getting Rolex watches from his wife so there seems to be a tradeoff if you're lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:36 PM
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Presumed paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:33 PM
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Ugh what a horrible life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:29 PM
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Most men have the goal to pass on their genes. No need to get married to achieve either goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:29 PM
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Hey mate! :) I'm at work so I Googled "women who don't want to get married" these links popped up among others. It's hard to link the real sources I know, which are real women, in happy relationships, with no desire to take the plunge and introduce the government into their relationship. I see zero incentive to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:26 PM
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But....I'm not a squirrel. I still have eggs and goals outside of getting them fertilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:19 PM
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Ah yes, my bad, my reading comprehension isn't at its best when I haven't finished a cup of coffee yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:18 PM
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I'm curious if you mean actual physical security or just the perceived notion of a happy, secure, home. Stability is a joke. If anyone thinks just because you're married your relationship is secure, they are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:12 PM
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Relevance? Howso? With more women forming their life arc outside of the family, can they not also build their own self worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:07 PM
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I added some links to the post via edit. Your generalizations, while applicable to some women don't seem to be the majority anymore. (According to CNN which, albeit, isn't the best source)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:05 PM
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Kids = can be had without and often are these days. True but, at least in America, paternity isn't assumed unless you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:49 PM
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So there is no joy in the kissing, cuddling on the couch, if there is no sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:17 PM
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I'm generally submissive but any time I've had a last minute change of heart, it is because I realized I really didn't want to have sex with that person for various reasons including lack of attraction, fear, sleepiness, or I was still in love with my ex. Actually, all those reasons were for the same person and he still held me down and put his dick in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:00 PM
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So I don't think women withholding sex and only being crazy with alphas is as prevalent as some people make it out to be. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:57 PM
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But so many women empathize with men. I understand why a man wouldn't want to be with someone who thought differently about casual sex than them or moreover, had easier access to casual sex than them because it's a sellers market for women generally. Those are preferences. I also understand that there is no way to change this opinion of yours, if these are the only type of women you've encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 02:56 PM
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Why will women try all kinds of crazy sex with alphas (spanking, face fucking, swallowing, anal, etc.) but then only have dry vanilla sex with the man they are in a long term relationship with. I'm exactly the complete opposite of this statement and know zero women who act like this (NAWALT:)) but... Women who are acting like this, I could see it being because she never actually enjoyed any of those acts and felt pressured into doing them. With the LTR she feels safe and like she shouldn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:08 AM
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That is genius. Honestly, I probably wouldn't notice the paper at all but then again I'd never be in that car with you because I'm in a very satisfying LTR. It's funny, you humble-brag about money. I humble-brag about my integrity. There is probably something to that...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:25 PM
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Which I completely respect you for. I'm more just poking the bear from their perspective to better understand TRP from the female side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:41 PM
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All women do not deny sex. Source: me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:16 PM
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Do you think it's possible that y'all just haven't been with the highest caliber of women? I think you would find more fulfillment in a relationship that doesn't need "strategy". Just a thought. This is exactly what I think when I read a lot about TRP relationships. They seem catered to spoiled, selfish, self-centered, narcissistic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:14 PM
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The fact that she got herself into a committed relationship when I was too busy to see her for a couple months does point to the fact that she was probably unsatisfied on some level, but I don't think it was a serious problem for her (or she hid it well because she knew I wouldn't want to be involved with those feelings) Ya, I've been the girl that hid her feelings well in this type of situation way back in high school. Since then, I've only been satisfied with NSA when I was emotionally unavail…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:09 PM
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If my ex in my blue pill days expressed gratitude and long term commitment towards my 4 year commitment to her, I wouldn't be here. But when she left after 3 months of losing my job, I became quite familiar with "Alpha Fux Beta Bux". Your ex is a bitch and acted like a bitch. My man was unemployed for a year and I stuck by him. I'm not some ugly woman without any other options, either. I just saw it as one member of our team being down on his luck. We're in this world together and everyone gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:43 PM
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There was no pressure at all because neither one of us had any sort of romantic feelings, but we had sex multiple times every time we hung out. This is something I don't understand about the underlying RP mentality. It may be off-topic, so feel free to ignore, however, if the "primary motivation" of women is to obtain commitment from a neurological or psychological level wouldn't your friend have been fundamentally unsatisfied in this situation? I don't know you or your friend, just trying to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:37 PM
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Ya but then you see someone act one out on their SO one day and you realize it's just one more way a person can be a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 07:04 AM
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But you generally feel queasy when the salesman leaves...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:27 AM
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One might say a temper tantrum is a calculated maneuver as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:26 AM
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It also is an example that reeks of codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:22 AM
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My man treats me well, I know I'm loved... usually until I'm sore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:19 AM
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How would you define femininity? I define it has being radiant. Wearing things that accentuate your figure. Acting passionately about the things and people you care about. Intelligence. Nurturing and caring. But honestly, I think it's subjective and that every woman has their own ways to be feminine and feel feminine. Is vulnerability an aspect of it? Maternal sentiment? I think being open verbally and emotionally is part of it - caring about others is a vulnerability, communicating is a vulnera…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:40 PM
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I've worn dresses all week AND folded all the laundry...even his fap rag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:49 PM
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Next! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:45 PM
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You wouldn't believe how stubborn some people are and how eager they are to make their partner live in misery. People need to learn to check their pride and stop using sex as a tool. I know this isn't the reality, but I think it could become one. I don't :) A lot of things will get in the way and prevent that from happening if you ask me. What sort of things? Because the woman will drop him like a lead balloon if he does that. The study showed that half of women would do this. Those women seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:06 PM
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Personally, I have a very high sex drive for a female. However, I know I won't have an orgasm if I don't feel safe and loved so I have little interest in uncommitted sex even with someone I am extremely attracted to. I don't know how common that is, but I just can't let go in that way unless I have a healthy relationship and commitment. So while I have a high interest in sex, it definitely does not lead to the same behaviors as a stereotypical male with the same sex drive. Same here. I'm able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:24 AM
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Exactly! I've read fanfic and literotica almost every night since my early teens. The visual porn industry is geared towards men because women consume a different type of smut.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:16 AM
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Ha! As a general rule, if you have solid communication then you resolve your libido issues quickly and easily. Exactly! I don't think mismatched libidos are a death sentence. I've had to learn to be gracious when my partner says no, as has he. This has also fluctuated throughout our years together but we don't take it personally because it isn't frequent enough to bruise our intimacy - which I see happening all the time in /r/deadbedrooms. I don't understand what you mean here. Do you mean if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:41 AM
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I think women are as interested in sex as men but in a different way. I don't think women look at a man in the street and think "yup" or "nope". That doesn't mean a woman doesn't have fantasies of a sexual nature that occupy her mind throughout the day, even as frequently as their male counterparts. When we find someone we trust we are able to bring these fantasies to life but they aren't going to happen with a random "yup" on the street. At least, this is my opinion as a high-libido woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:15 AM
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In regards to the prenup: It's not so much changing their minds as different interpretations of agreed upon terms but, yes, it can lead to angry parties. But also, I've witnessed amicable divorces in my life and while I was not privy to the details, it did instill a belief that two people can decide together they aren't right for each other and split accordingly. I actually did it with my own SO when long distance got to be too much in our early 20s. Now, in our late 20s, we've found each other …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:10 AM
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I looked into prenuptial agreements a bit because we're thinking of getting one (I make significantly more but also have a significantly more debt) and it seems like if no one contests it at the time of the divorce and you have appropriate clauses for children and any assets and debts acquired after the marriage, it should hold in court. Assuming of course that it meets the requirements to be legal (in writing, conscionable, etc.) Though I suppose most are contested, which results in a judge put…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:43 PM
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Howso?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:03 PM
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Amen...but I'm a woman...and in a relationship. But this was my mentality until I caught feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 10:30 PM
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If the intention is to give up on dating for good, it becomes even more common, of which the most common example would be the widowed grandma who dedicates her life to her grandkids. Or a divorced mom who gives up on dating for good and focuses solely on her children. Wouldn't a woman who gives up dating for good never choose become a mother or grandmother, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 08:21 PM
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I think sometimes we care more what our own gender thinks than the opposite one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:41 PM
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I really appreciate your contribution to the discussion because as a member of society and a woman, I've never really broke down these norms. Nor have I had the opportunity to discuss with someone who can capture their existence, and the pressure they cause, in words. I know their is a sub for WGTOW but have no idea if it focuses on breaking traditional female gender roles. If so, the term may become appropriated and used to describe the subset of norms placed on women. It will be interesting (f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:38 PM
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Living the life!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:25 PM
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So most men don't ever bother contesting custody because the system is stacked against them to ensure that they lose except under the most extreme cases of neglect. Child support aside because that money is supposed to go to the children, I believe the financial situations can easily be circumvented by an iron clad prenuptial agreement. I've read here (and only here, not when I was studying Family Law) that most don't hold up in court -which, if true, is unfortunate. I do disagree about custody.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:24 PM
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I luckily know women who break that mold and am happy to have them in my life. There is actually a sub. Someone in this thread pointed me too it but I'm not sure how good it is: /r/WGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 02:59 PM
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Where is the systematic disenfranchisement? Is it in the divorces and custody? I do see that as a reason for men drop out. Especially with how difficult it is for a father to gain custody. But, as someone who makes more than her partner, I think the negative consequences of alimony and divorce exist for the party going into the relationship with the most assets. Couldn't I be "going my own way" because I fear the alimony machine too? I do see the difference, though, in that I am not the norm (ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:17 AM
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What lies at the end of anyone's path? I'm sure a woman could be happy at the end of her life with a good amount of experiences had, a few friends, a nice amount of money saved up, etc. Companionship can be found in a multitude of ways and some women, not me but some, just don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:07 AM
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MGTOW is first and foremost about rejecting the idea that one's manhood is conditional upon service to society. One of these forms of service to society has historically been marrying (or cohabiting with) a woman and supporting her and (if applicable) her children. Rejecting marriage/dating/committed relationships with women is a consequence of rejecting the idea that a "real man" must serve society. Women are seen, generally speaking, as inherently useful to society because of their reproductiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:04 AM
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I don't mean women who look at men as evil, spurned to believe they will never worry men again. I simply mean women who for lack of better words don't prioritize dating, and thus don't miss it when it's gone. Their lives are about building their own "status" or, in reality, devoting time to hobbies, travel, friends, investments, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:37 AM
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But why is choosing to direct your own life outside of a relationship a feminist ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:31 AM
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My understanding of MGTOW is that they drop out of the dating market because in their opinion dating, relationships and marriage are all stacked against them and they do not wish to be part of that any longer. Ah, I guess that is the disconnect. Though I still don't understand why WGTOW can't apply to a particular woman who sees dating stacked against herself and drops out because it's too much of a hassel or they want to direct their lives without a someone else's influence, or some other rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:30 AM
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I disagree. I think that it's only shitty if you want to be a nurturer and can't or the converse, you don't want to be a nurterer and are forced to become one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:22 AM
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That's a horrible reality. I come from a large family with unmarried men and women who are definitely involved in the younger generations life. I'm sure both realities exist though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:41 AM
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My understanding of MGTOW is that they drop out of the dating market to focus on themselves or they thrive better on a solo trajectory. I imagine that could be a WGTOW as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:39 AM
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Nice! Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 02:31 AM
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What do you think the difference is? Status among peers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 12:42 AM
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I know many who have, happily. I was just curious how it fit into the redpill/bluepill mold
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 11:03 PM
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All the sons that guilt their parents for things through tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:40 PM
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Yes! I have to fight with men to get on the bus before me. You. Were. Here. First!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 11:27 PM
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Under reporting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 02:12 AM
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Not so much a vote but a gathering of opinions. NonRP is welcome if you want to elaborate, they were just my target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 03:30 PM
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Wow. Thank you. My first gold :) I appreciate discourse. Respect is just part of the package when you're exchanging ideas. I recently discovered Redpill-Bluepill mentality and find it fascinating for all sorts of reasons. Thank you for allowing me to pick your brain and sharing your rationale/experiences with me. And, you know, the gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:43 AM
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I agree with you that women can evoke some strange sort of response when they act out or bratty that attracts rescuers but I just can't agree that it doesn't extend to men too. On a base level, outside of social stigma men put on other men, an amateur male can attract a female purely triggered by their desire to nurture. I've seen it happen so many times with woman trying to fix a, for lack of better term, deadbeat I just believe we are all equally capable of falling into "amateur or pro", peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 10:44 PM
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Amateurs of both gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 05:58 PM
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Equally capable of mature and immature thoughts and actions, being selfish or selfless, rational or irrational, able to self sooth/self corrent or feed into the bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 04:10 PM
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We all go through tough times. All you can do is grow and try not to blame people for the actions of others. Good luck to you! Edit: prematurely clicked submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 05:56 AM
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I agree that there are spoiled people with entitlement complexes of both genders. I also agree that it is a red flag. Personally, though, the type of immaturity you seem to see as prevalent I see as a rarity. Shrug. This could be contributed to many factors: age, location, education or experience level, ppl acting certain ways when dating(?), etc. I also believe you chose the people you surround yourself with - with both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:43 AM
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No advice is needed and our "issues" are practically nonexistent. I was just making the point that both genders are capable of acting childish. To limit that to women alone is a faulty argument. Further, to equate women (or men) to teenagers as a default makes it acceptable when they act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 11:24 PM
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I am a woman. When I act childish, I either self-correct or my SO points it out then I self-correct. When my SO acts childish, he does the same and I do as well. Are we both acting as "teenagers" sometimes even though we are in our late 20s? Yes. Does it have anything to do with our gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 10:15 PM
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Creating a scenario to make your SO think you're cheating/may cheat on them to increase your "SMV", it may not be textbook lying but it is still deceit
/r/ExRedPill18/10/14 04:56 AM
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