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| 16 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it? | Discussion | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 03:50 PM |
| 11 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender? | Discussion | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 03:56 PM |
| 9 | Would you "spin a plate" that has her own soft harem? | Question for RedPill | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 08:45 PM |
| 8 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread? | Question for RedPill | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 05:43 PM |
| 6 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal? | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 03:50 PM | |
| 5 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTR | Question for RedPill | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW? | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/15 10:50 PM | |
| 0 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women? | Question for RedPill | 0909a0909 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 03:19 PM |
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| 1 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?Are you saying you need one-itis to have love, marriage, kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 06:57 PM |
| 1 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?A similar message between our two warnings. As a woman who frequently lurks RP and MRP, I always saw a similarity in these two concepts and wondered about their overlap. Thanks for the polite discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 06:19 PM |
| 2 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?No, because nearly all women intuitively understand this already. Except for: A woman who was really, really sexually attracted to a man and then he leaves her/breaks up with her So then, it would make sense to warn women that, "He's not yours, you're a 'next' away from being gone" when it comes to a man she's really, really sexually attracted too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 06:11 PM |
| 2 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?Gotcha. That's why I was asking for clarification. Would it be similarly useful for a woman to adopt the "He's not yours, you're a 'next' away from being gone?" mentality to avoid one-itis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 05:59 PM |
| 1 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?She's next-ing him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 05:47 PM |
| 2 | What's the difference between "she's not yours, it's just your turn" and "next-ing" someone?How about from the female perspective? In RP - She's never yours, it's just your turn = She can't love you the way you want to be loved, she can find someone else... (hypergamy) But isn't that the same thing at next-ing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/16 05:40 PM |
| 11 | The Wall doesn't imply women's attractiveness falls off a cliff at a certain age. It refers to a point when women's expectations exceed her value, where she can no longer use her beauty to get what she wants.Women are, unfortunately, often their own worst enemies. This is true for both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/16 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.I'm saying that using your personal experience to try and prove or disprove a statement or act like it you're contributing to a discussion in any meaningful way is fucking stupid. This is the foundation of red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/16 11:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The vast majority of men are broadly average. Archetypal "alphas" are a tiny minority.Comparing an entire diverse group is retarded. I agree. RP only talks in terms of generalization, this sort of shit is SJW level of "All men are rapists" and "All black people are oppressed" I agree. A pre-university level of understanding of science would let you know that you can't fucking talk about large groups of diverse things in specifics. You can only address it generally. I agree. Shut the fuck up. Wow what a jump (and a rude one at that.) Including non-youth women into a selection samp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/16 11:23 AM |
| 5 | CMV: The vast majority of men are broadly average. Archetypal "alphas" are a tiny minority.the vast majority of the youth population When doing the stats of all men v all women can you really only count the youth population? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/16 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.When a post is about someone's experience, and you call that experience "fucking stupid" that is a personal attack. You know that, I know that, and the hairs you split know that. There's no point in having a discussion if you only show up to disregard experiences other than your own and add nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/16 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.how do people make posts this fucking stupid? I followed your personal attack lead, Capt'n. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/16 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.You seem fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are....kinda ya. But add 5 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/16 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Lol I give my man plenty of unconditional love and he is nothing like Chad. Good luck to you. I wish you luck and hope that you don't live in your own self-fulfilling prophecy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/16 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Wow I wasted too much time on this. It fuels a very strange fire in my veins. Feel better! I enjoyed your arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Very true and an important differentiation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.I merely see value in men and in women beyond what they can provide me, be it in bed or marriage. you're only hurting women, which i don't care all that much about You don't care much about women in general or women's care for marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Nah - more like: Dear marriage, fuck you. Dear men, thank you. Dear women, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Thank you for the statistics. I enjoy living among the anomaly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.I'd love to see your stats. I live in a big city and see people caring or uncaring about marriage equally. But, you know, anecdotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.Yes you can. I don't understand why that is irrelevant, except that it undermines redpill dogma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:22 PM |
| 5 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.I'm confused, why does it matter if a specific woman doesn't think male attention is worth the price of male commitment as you describe it? We wouldn't be where we are if women decided to be spoiled brats who expect men to do everything for them with nothing in return. No one is asking anything of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 07:07 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Men who truly believe in the "Red Pill" are living a self-fulfilling prophecy.I think the one healthy thing redpill does for men is teach them to value themselves outside of what they bring to a woman. This creates confidence and self-worth. It is internalized and not about women at all. Some men do shut down and become noncommunicative in their relationships and I think that is a self-fulfilling prophecy for an unhappy relationship for one or both partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 06:56 PM |
| 4 | Are women unfunny?I laughed. . .but I'm a woman so it doesn't count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 05:09 PM |
| 33 | Askmen poster makes a fantastic post about why men aren't into fictional romances like women are.I never realized how rare it was for a man to be loved for who he was instead of what he could provide or how he made someone feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/16 05:02 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: What kind of people do you find usually interested in you, and how does that make you feel?29F All types but mostly businessmen, construction guys, coffee baristas, etc., since I spend a lot of time downtown. It makes me feel like I must look good on my way to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/16 06:48 PM |
| 4 | Q4women: Why do RP things upset you?Or, you know, she is just answering the question OP asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/16 05:12 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?There are established trends. Yes, yes there are. We can both Google until the sun comes up and find articles that support our theories. Maybe it's both, depending on the woman! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 05:41 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Up until a certain point in my own life I'd prefer chocolate to sex because the sex I had up to that point was very one-sided. I'm definitely not saying that is what all the women in that article think, though. All women are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 05:01 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?I think that once a woman gets to the point where she finds pleasure in sex she's more likely to want it more and/or masturbate more. At least, this is my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 04:53 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Is there a double standard in TRP?This dude is succumbing to his feelings - like a woman would. Like a person would. FTFY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 04:02 PM |
| 3 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Couldn't you say that the inverse is true, as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 09:16 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?It is alpha male behavior. And female behavior. But it's the opposite of average beta male behavior. Ah I see, thank you for clarifying. The average man doesn't see his relationship as "yeah we'll stay together as long as it's fun and we are happy". He is far more serious about it. This will go OT but I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. My bf and I often talk about our mutual goal of long-term companionship and how it is a goal for us and our relationship. But we also remind ourselves … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 09:13 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Yes I agree. I did not want to put the edit, the mods asked for detail. I'm looking for answers/discussion based on the actual question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 08:56 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Oooh I like this post! Thank you for replying. How would you compare what I've said about myself to TRP definition of how a man views himself and his relationship? I read everything I said as very alpha-male/OI behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 08:11 PM |
| 5 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?On the flip side, I will have wet dreams if I don't orgasms within a month. Especially as I age, orgasming is now a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 07:44 PM |
| 5 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Beauty, style and makeup are "something" to someone. To me, lifting accounts are just about showing off muscles. Both are exactly the same, in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 07:37 PM |
| 3 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Exceptions don't prove the rule. But that's the point of this thread. Doesn't matter. I can still sympathize with that story, as can many on TRP. That's the point. I get that. I was only saying that you did what I did - found an online community that helped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?Ah you're right. That was a response to you questioning my relationship. Ciao! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:47 PM |
| 6 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?In general these things track gender. Attention whoring on social media, for instance, is overwhelmingly a female thing. Except all the male instagram accounts about lifting disprove this to a degree. Overall I agree, but this thread is about not meeting TRP descriptions of gender. Not all women do this. No. I can. There's a reason that story is sidebarred: it's not an exotic experience for the men who come to TRP. Something stopped you, just like something stopped me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?I lurk their daily and have read their stories but I don't even know what were talking about anymore. This was a discussion about child support. Good day :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:40 PM |
| 0 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?Nah - most seem content, just want more/better sex and advice on how to deal with shit and comfort tests. Their goal is to stay married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:37 PM |
| 4 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?It's a question of degree and context. Men generally don't post their trivial problems on Facebook looking for net.lovies in return, which is "attention and validation seeking" in the typical context as discussed on TRP. I see, same desires different outlet. The degree and context are based on individuals, not gender. Can you imagine being so lonely that you want to kill yourself to stop the pain? No. I've been lonely and isolated and ostracized before but I usually found online communities and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?Hah. Every man on MRP will state this as a worry. If you're in a relationship not wondering what will happen if things go sour than you're naive. But thank you for the unrequested relationship advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?That article is from 2002 so their may be more states (or less) now. I agree with the problem. I disagree it's gender specific. I know statistically more woman than men obtain child support but you can file for misappropriation of cs payments. Also, as someone who makes more than their partner - it is something I worry about if we have children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:25 PM |
| 8 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Attention and validation seeking are usually seen as female traits in TRP. Do you agree they are gender neutral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:21 PM |
| 2 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Do you relate to TRP description of the average man? What is TRP description of an average woman, in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:20 PM |
| 4 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?I have a coworker doing this to his ex right now. Also, some states have child support accounting laws and if you show misuse you can lose custody. x | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?It's an income stream for his children, which she completely entirely controls, and for which she doesn't have to account. She or he can be called into court for misappropriation of child support payments. "true joint custody" would be exactly 50/50 residential custody, which almost never happens. Or its 30/70 with the partner making more paying, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 06:04 PM |
| 7 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Am I a unicorn too since I'm bi? Edit: But you're right. This is exactly why I didn't put any personal details in OP until I was asked too by the mods. I wanted the discussion to be about others and not myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 05:55 PM |
| 4 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?It's an income stream from him to his children. Also, if true joint custody is awarded the higher paid partner can be ordered to pay the lower paid partner child support, regardless of gender. Men ask for alimony less than women even if they should economically obtain it in the eyes of the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 05:51 PM |
| 7 | Do the cons of marriage outweigh the pros?Unless she is making more than him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Can an overweight man have a sex life like an overweight female?I think it's all about how high or low a person's standards are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 05:44 PM |
| 3 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?I added some more to the OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 05:00 PM |
| 2 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?I'll edit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 04:50 PM |
| 1 | DAE have a hard time relating to how TRP describes their gender?Though perhaps it'd be a better discussion if you said why? Why a person would think it does not describe them or why I think like it does not describe me? The goal was to open it up to everyone. I do not want to skew answers with my own experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 04:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women read TRP and mistakenly believe that MEN talking to MEN about what they want from women is actually orders to women on how to behaveFWIW, I would say to someone like your husband, "Just be aware of AWALT (followed by a neutral description of female nature and what can be and often is important to women) so you can better anticipate and proactively address aspects of the relationship that might turn out to be important to your wife." Elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/15 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Does this post describe how most redpillers view women and sex?Both are extreme, uncompromising and walk around with their fingers in their ears refusing to view the opposite gender as a human being with a similar range of feelings and desires as their own gender. Edit: generalizing for effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/15 10:48 PM |
| 10 | If women "freeze up" in response to dangerous situations, it is unconscionable to allow them the freedom to go around unchaperonedCombat training for everyone! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 04:30 PM |
| 34 | If women "freeze up" in response to dangerous situations, it is unconscionable to allow them the freedom to go around unchaperonedNot only women freeze up -men do too. As an example: Back in the groove. A few times I have seen some of my soldiers hesitate or even freeze. Chaperones for everyone! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 04:16 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRDoes your "simply exist" strategy for a woman to attracted a certain man apply to every women of every age with every body type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 01:39 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRWhat if they liked being used? Though I'm not quite sure what we're talking about here. . . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 07:20 PM |
| 1 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRIntrigued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 07:17 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRAye lmao! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 07:16 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRI didn't create the tactic, I'm literally quoting /r/marriedredpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 06:34 PM |
| 1 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRMy goal in this question is one of the main the redpill goals - More frequent, enthusiastic and kinky sex within a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 06:07 PM |
| 3 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRMy goal in this question is one of the main the redpill goals - More frequent, enthusiastic and kinky sex within a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 06:07 PM |
| 3 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRThis seems so simple to me and as someone who values and loves sex, it also applies to how I function in relationships. There's a direct correlation between my LTR being the best sex I've had and him being my LTR. My question was more general though, not for my own relationship. Can I dread my way or redpill my way into kinkier sex or is default communication the way all redpillers go about that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:59 PM |
| 1 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRThis comes with a big, fat, it depends. I see that being the case, I was referring to both types of men so I appreciate your breakdown. Likewise, working out and finding awesome hobbies and becoming a better person -- that's not going to "dread" a guy with options. If anything, he'll appreciate that you're working on something besides Facebook. But will it lead to more, kinkier sex like say a man finding a passion may make him more attractive in the eyes of women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:43 PM |
| 4 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRWhat sorts of performances does he do? If an alpha man is hot enough the girls will come to him (dread) and if he's IDGAF enough they will pursue him too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:40 PM |
| 10 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRI disagree - isn't the epitome of alpha someone who acts on their own for themselves? Their frame is who they are as a default not as some act. That frame, ideally, is supposed to attract women and inspire dread in their partners in and out of itself without it being an act at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:30 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRIf you take the alpha male persona into account, doesn't his default existence inspire dread? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:23 PM |
| 3 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRMuch like I've read on MRP: Hugs and kisses solely as foreplay. Cuddles only after sex. Everything is an overture for sex and being sweet and accommodating only occurs after sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:22 PM |
| 1 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRWe're only the experts in guy game.... Not how girls can use it and how guys would respond. I'm wondering if anyone does have experience with this though and it seems like some do with dread. I think other tactics may be universal too though, as you say, most redpillers are focused on gaming girls not guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:11 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRNah I just read on MRP about only providing affection to their wives as a reward for being sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 05:07 PM |
| 2 | What, if any, redpill tactics would work as a lady to a man in a LTRSo, for instance the dread game or withholding affection unless sex is involved is something you believe wouldn't work on men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/15 04:57 PM |
| 1 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Then her sexual consent isn't because she's attracted to you but because she fears you leaving? Hang on...... Just WHY is she fearing you leaving UNLESS she has started to regard you as a sexual partner worth keeping ? I can think of so many reasons: Stubbornness, family unit, not wanting to be single, apathy, fear of the unknown, maybe he makes good pancakes etc I don't think you can separate those emotions as much as you are doing. If a guy is the kind of guy you suddenly discover you really, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 03:38 PM |
| 1 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Consequently, if you have employed DG correctly.... and your wife is responsive to it... She is physically attracted to you again, instinctively and naturally. So if you DG her and create THAT.... THIS is when you actually get to sleep with a woman who physically desires to do so based on her own innate instinctive attraction. I looked at the link and what you said above and I can see how imparting dread could make her realize you are in better shape and more attractive. However, once you get to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/15 02:47 PM |
| 2 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?....is this manipulation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Oh trust me, it's leggings and Long Johns season at our house. Usually someone's on their knees within an hour of getting home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 08:11 PM |
| 0 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Ah yes, the whole "say what you mean, I'm not a mind reader" dynamic. It goes nicely (/s) with women's learned behavior of being deferential. My SO underwent our own conversations about communication and how I need to be more direct shortly after moving in together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 07:36 PM |
| 1 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?I think what is being alluded to, but for some reason not outright stated, is that you can't have proposition A without proposition B. The increased level of desire will trigger the increased level of dread. Unless there is certainty in the relationship which MRP advises against. Is this the same for men dating hotter women or women with a higher smv? The desire/dread scale? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 07:33 PM |
| 4 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?You need to realize that desire is not exactly binary. Say you're in a LTR and things are slowing down a bit and she's not putting out as much. The BP advice is to start being more giving toward her (more chores etc.). As we know this is horrible advice. See my advice would be to hit the gym and have both parties start planning date night The TRP advice is the opposite. This is a situation where dread game would be useful to you. Make yourself appear more valuable (abundance of options) thereby … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 07:09 PM |
| 1 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Come on. "low libido" and "sex isn't a priority for her are euphemisms for "not attracted to her husband." Maybe. I haven't experienced either so I'm willing to concede this to you. No amount of dread will make a woman fuck if she has decided she is not going to fuck. All dread can do is gently influence her to go in the direction she's disposed to go. Dread is pressure applied to a woman in increasing degrees for the purpose of influencing her to either (a) comply with the man's wants, needs an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:59 PM |
| 2 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Can't you be insecure about losing someone you don't sexually desire though? And then, are you okay with her copulation to secure you even if she goes not desire you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:54 PM |
| 2 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?I see what you're saying. The method is the same either way, the outcome is determined by the woman not the man. So you're left doing the same actions (getting abs) regardless. I guess I wonder if one outcome is more preferential over the other? I'm guessing not the one fueled insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:51 PM |
| 2 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?I guess - or maybe she has a low libido and sex isn't a priority for her and the man is her best friend? Who knows, I'm just spit balling here. It's sorta moved OT anyway since I was more wondering about how red pillers think of dread-fuelled-sex but I appreciate you taking the time to answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:47 PM |
| 5 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Apologies. How are you supposed to get the response of "you're hot" without also thinking "all these other women want to fuck you?" Was that the crux of your question? Honestly, I think this thought pattern is based on the individual. I think it is possible to check out another man or my own man and think - damn I want him. The fact that other people may want him will never cross my mind unless he actively points to people checking him out. Then I usually think, oh they want to fuck him. But it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:44 PM |
| 5 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?I see them as two very different things. One is a carnal desire to have a man because he turns me on and I want them. The other is, oh I need to keep him around for whatever reason, time to fuck his new abs even if I'm really not attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:33 PM |
| 2 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Even in a situation where a woman is having sex with her man because of dread, i.e., she is compliant and is meeting his wants, needs and desires because she is afraid of losing him, it is because she desires him. Because if she she didn't desire him, she'd be gone. But you can desire someone's presence without desiring them sexually. If you want them around enough to be a father or a provider or what have you, I imagine you can put up with maintaining a healthy sex life with someone you don't d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 06:31 PM |
| 4 | MRP - Negotiating Desire v. Dread?Right. Which I understand. Who doesn't love a hot bod? The dread game though, seems like you're only getting action from that avenue because of insecurity, not cause she actually wants you. Is that the goal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/15 05:58 PM |
| 1 | If a woman can do anything she wants to her body, why doesn't that extend to prostitution?I don't think you're correct that most feminists are against legal prostitution. EDIT: The ones that are, I imagine, believe it factors into sex trafficking and the exploitation of minors and very young women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 11:11 PM |
| 0 | If a woman can do anything she wants to her body, why doesn't that extend to prostitution?But there's a recognized divide within feminism that shows that a good sized portion of identified feminists support prostitution, pornography, etc. It's not always "used" in such a way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 10:19 PM |
| 4 | Why are you against the MRAs ?I have a background in law. On the books, Family Law in certain jurisdictions can be fair and equitable to both parties. I was exposed to stories where enforcement of those laws resulted in different outcomes than what I prevously perceived. There are no male sexual domestic violence resources or shelters. Wtf. People suck and either gender can leave theirs or the other hurt and broken. Also, learned about the wall and smv and all things redpill and I guess purplepill through a Men's Rights rabb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 10:17 PM |
| 5 | Why are you against the MRAs ?I find lurking their pretty interesting. Makes me think about things I hadn't considered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 08:48 PM |
| 8 | If a woman can do anything she wants to her body, why doesn't that extend to prostitution?It frowns on coerced prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 06:54 PM |
| 3 | Women: Would you rather have a broke very attractive man, or an average man with an income of $100KBoth please. Not possible? The hot man, as long as he also has a very attractive personality as well. I make enough money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 04:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: It is impressive when a man can sleep with a lot of women, because women have higher standards than men.Nothing will ever be impressive to everyone and something will always be impressive to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/15 05:36 AM |
| 3 | CMV: A woman has default Sexual Appeal, just for being a woman, but a man does not.Cookie for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/15 02:11 PM |
| 6 | Women see men as pure utilityLike attract like. Shallow attract shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 09:48 PM |
| 3 | Women see men as pure utilityBut isn't that just confirmation bias? I believe a premise so I will only look towards the type that conform my premise? People in that age are inherently selfish. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_Egocentrism I know incredibly selfless people of both genders but they're generally old enough to have gained some life experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Women see men as pure utilityAgreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 09:18 PM |
| 4 | Women see men as pure utilityBut by your definition of Empathy, it cannot exist at all. No one can ever literally be in someone else's shoes until they actually become that person (rich to poor; female to male; native to foreigner; etc.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 08:46 PM |
| 5 | Women see men as pure utilityWorst demographic to make sweeping generalizations with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/15 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Is there consensus that the female corollary of the friend zone is the "fuck zone"? if not why not? Also which is preferableThanks. Ya the "out" of "inside and out" was meant to capture the looking good a sentiment. I agree with the being v. doing. It's better to find someone who simply is the type of person you like than try to encourage them to do those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/15 11:07 PM |
| 5 | Is there consensus that the female corollary of the friend zone is the "fuck zone"? if not why not? Also which is preferableI think both "games" have more to do with improving yourself inside and out, having something to bring to the table be it cooking or just bettering yourself in general. Be interesting, be pleasant, be kind, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/15 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Should men have to pay for children they didn't want?In America you are able to terminate your parental rights and no longer have to pay child support. http://singleparents.about.com/od/legalissues/a/termination_parental_rights.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/15 05:27 AM |
| 4 | Are all Women manipulative?You - you there! Your broad shoulders are unconsciously distracting me and turning me on. There, you've been made aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Are all Women manipulative?Should you call them out on it? Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 09:50 PM |
| 5 | Why do Redpillers tend to desire multiple casual partners as opposed to a stable long term girlfriend? Just curiousTime to fuck your mothers, guys! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Why do Redpillers tend to desire multiple casual partners as opposed to a stable long term girlfriend? Just curiousHell I'm a woman and that description of us makes me want a sex change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 03:05 PM |
| 19 | Why aren't there more stay-at-home dads given the prevalence of women in the workplace?Once you're used to a double income life, it's hard to go back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 06:57 PM |
| 4 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?We're not going to apologize for it. Not asking you too. I was merely asking for the intent which you answered really well. For you, the intent isn't to dehumanize but to categorize. Thanks for answering! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 04:14 PM |
| 0 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?Then don't let yourself be turned into a plate that can be spun. This is interesting. What makes a plate in TRP? It's the difference between LTR material and "low-SMV" women, from TRP perspective? Or is it like a ladder: acquaintance > plate > LTR? I'm off the market indefinitely, so no I won't be spinning any time soon. I appreciate your concern though ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 04:11 PM |
| 4 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?Well ya, dehumaniziation is dehumanizing when anyone does it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?The better question is why is this bad as you seem to imply? I was more curious about the intent. Is the intention to dehumanize women by calling them plates or is it solely an easy metaphor for dating? If the intent is to dehumanize, I find fault in that solely because it decreases empathy. But from TRP perspective I can see decreasing empathy for women to be an important part of the game, so it's only my subjective opinion that it is bad being that I am a human who does not like to be dehumani… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Question for Blue: What do you look for in a mate?It's interesting because in my answer I was considering ambitious and educated as part of 1 not 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:45 AM |
| 20 | Question for Blue: What do you look for in a mate?I'm just not sure. A troll or not a troll? The uncertainty alone means it's time to get off reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:31 AM |
| 2 | Question for Blue: What do you look for in a mate?2 > 1 > 3 For top attribute, It's hard to choose between 2 and 1 because 2 is what starts everything off. I've dated people I'm my attracted too and I can never really spark with them. However, the type I've found attractive is varied physically so I imagine 1 has something to do with it. Personality keeps me around. It makes me wait anxiously until the next time I see you and causes most of the moments I'll hold close to my heart. 1 is so important. But I probably won't get to 1 without 2. I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:26 AM |
| 0 | Do women put up LMR because they crave being dominated?Except the thing is I don't think it was rape. We were in my room, in my bed, near naked, after a nice date. I didn't want it but I didn't use my words. Well actually that's not true. His dick was by my hand I said, "maybe we shouldn't", he said "come on" then slid right in. That was it. In my mind I was like, so this is happening and happen it did. We dated for a few months after and everything because I didn't want it to be this one time thing and we got along well enough. I was meek. I was ni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 12:13 AM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I'll give you that. :) Lots of people doesn't have to mean lots of money either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 11:18 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?IIRC (had to Google that one!) it said that people of both genders want different things out of short term and long term partners. In the long term, the evolutionary needs for women did not align with reality (men want over 20 partners in their lifetime, I learned) so wouldn't it make more sense to reset your desires and life plan to align with reality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:57 PM |
| -1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Similarly, even if a woman may not want a wedding, she does want the romance, and all the related gestures. Deeply. Doesn't everyone want romance? Romance =/= marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:52 PM |
| -1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I agree with this and it furthers my belief that there is zero incentive for a woman to get married. Why not just stay in a relationship, play out the goals (children, travel, etc.) and love then part ways when both see fit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:42 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I'm saying that the study is TRUE so where is the incentive to get married when it concludes that long term partnering fails. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:38 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Are you sure? Emory University found that couples who spend less on their wedding tend to have longer-lasting marriages. The study found a correlation between less-expensive engagement rings and lower divorce rates. In terms of dollars, women who spent more than $20,000 on a wedding divorced 1.6 times more than those who had $5,000 to $10,000 weddings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:35 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?There is definitely a sample bias. You have to be a specific type of woman and a specific type of man to even find this subreddit. My man's always like, "so what hole did you fall through again to find people with these opinions?", when I mention something from TRP, RPW or PPD. I know I'm independent and not materialistic and also very curious about other people's perspectives and life paths. The Red Pill is a treasure trove for me. But ya, I agree with you. Sample bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:30 PM |
| 2 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I'm just a woman. I don't really know how to classify myself but spending a small fortune on a wedding is absurd. Some people are just rational human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:25 PM |
| -1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?A man doesn't leave a woman? This happens maybe not as often as the stat peddled here about 70% of women initiating divorce but some of those divorces are initiated because of infidelity on the part the man. Do you mean that because of alimony (awarded when one partner left the workforce) ties them together indefinitely or do you actually mean a man doesn't leave a marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:21 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Male writers admit to needing financial support as well. I kind of posted stats about how often it is that men are supported by wives. The thing is, men being supported by women is extremely uncommon. Men are often divorced or dumped when they lose their job. They don't get afforded the freedom to pursue their passions by wives. I see this opinion all the time here and believe it. However, I've supported my man for a year while he was without a job. I must be an outlier. Nope. Your OP said nothi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:14 PM |
| 2 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?That article is from 1993, only 18 years after a woman was capable of opening her own bank account. Moreover that study seems to prove that long term mating is rare for both genders so wouldn't that just prove a lack of incentive for marriage? Why invest all that time into something that won't last when you could just be in a relationship with a man, have a baby, then allow both parties to move on when it is no longer enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:07 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Well, it was sarcasm. Hence the "I'm being playful emoji." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:40 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I find reddit completely reliable in all fields ;) I think gift giving is a personality trait, you either possess it or you don't, when it comes to both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:16 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Male writers admit to needing financial support as well. Source: Stephen Kings memoir. I think it's important to remember that success is subjective. Not everyone thinks being a billionaire (and working as hard as you'd need to become one) is a successful life. I actually asked this question months back in askmen: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2mo8lg/how_do_you_define_success/ We were discussing forming a relevant and successful life without marriage and I don't think that equates to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:09 PM |
| 2 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I've always seen couples give each other gifts. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2whz78/whats_the_best_gift_youve_received_from_an_so/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 08:57 PM |
| -1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Generally don't form their own life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Is this Guardian Writer a RP'er in disguise?And just the other day I read on PPD that women are the ones who can't empathize. Sure, you have preferences and you have the visual reality of what turns you on. I can empathize with all of that. No one is asking you to date this woman. But can you really not emphasize with a 50 year old woman who is looking to date a man, any man, and finds no one out there looking to date her (and a large demographic) back? Shrug. I can see this from all sides. All it seems to me is sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 08:51 PM |
| 9 | Any Blue Pillers in PPD want to debate whether or not A LOT of Western women really do utilize their sexuality as being a source of power and sometimes a source of income?It's the oldest profession for a reason. A endlessly reliable way to pay the bills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 08:34 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I like your tag and your perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 07:43 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on thisI feel this is higher than most women already, which already means you're more likely to misinterpret a smile as something more if she smiles at you during one of these moments you're thinking about sex. I'm just piping on to offer my opinion. Ever since I put nsfw subreddits on my Front Page, I think about sex apt 3-5 times an hour... and that's conservative estimate. I wonder how much environmental factors fit into this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 06:06 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?not having to testify against each other in court. Oooh a new incentive no one's considered. Could be useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:37 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Now I'm pregnant and the sex frequency has ramped up to "please leave me alone, my penis is chafed". Not pregnant but we moved in together 6 months ago and I've heard this line. I'm calling bullshit ;) Disclaimer: this is a joke. I understand men can chaff and moreover don't want sex all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:27 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Haha that's horrible. I wonder if the ring wasn't a tradition if marriage numbers would drop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:23 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I think this becomes less true as you get older and learn the value of a dollar but that's just a guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:21 PM |
| 5 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?...I haven't downvoted anyone. I think some women find joy in the things you've said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:10 PM |
| 1 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?More the latter when I wrote it, but I'm sure many women would also see the first as a plus, especially in adverse circumstances (extremely violent areas). We had a loud noise in the middle of the night the other evening. My man jumped out of bed with the knife he keeps in the bed frame, I hardly woke up. We've been living together for about 6 months now and this is the first time I realized, outside of niceties, that he would try to protect us. Between that and traveling recently to a place kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:10 PM |
| 8 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Hmm it's popular in my group is friends. Lots of watches in exchange for rings. I guess it depends on who you surround yourself with but you seem to be right more or less: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1wbipr/women_who_arewere_engaged_did_you_get_your_fiancé/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:01 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Elope! If my man ever I ever take the plunge (we're in the talking about it phase) I'm pushing for court house all the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:56 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Kill me now. But you're right. Some women get off on event planning like it's the best sex marathon ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:54 PM |
| 6 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Isn't this only if they are not the primary breadwinner? I know that statistically they aren't and statistically the woman stays home to raise kids so she's "entitled" to alimony. Couldn't that all be switched if the man stays home and/or makes less money? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:53 PM |
| 2 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?That's shitty. No one should marry a shitty woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:51 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?A very strange tradition in my opinion. Isn't a groom gift also mandatory though? I heard they get a watch or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:46 PM |
| 5 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Is it though? Most women I know dread planning the wedding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:44 PM |
| 7 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?And men don't have that goal? Easier to do when you're married and paternity is presumed. We are both also assuming that said man and woman want children. Edit: are we arguing? I had my discussion tone going on in my head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:39 PM |
| 7 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Don't those same studies say the same thing about married men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:38 PM |
| 8 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Medical decision-making is a huge benefit I hadn't considered. Kudos! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:37 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Well I guess the only solution is to marry more than once! Though, also, somehow my dad keeps getting Rolex watches from his wife so there seems to be a tradeoff if you're lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:36 PM |
| 2 | What do western men get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Presumed paternity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:33 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Ugh what a horrible life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:29 PM |
| 8 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Most men have the goal to pass on their genes. No need to get married to achieve either goal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:29 PM |
| 4 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Hey mate! :) I'm at work so I Googled "women who don't want to get married" these links popped up among others. It's hard to link the real sources I know, which are real women, in happy relationships, with no desire to take the plunge and introduce the government into their relationship. I see zero incentive to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:26 PM |
| 7 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?But....I'm not a squirrel. I still have eggs and goals outside of getting them fertilized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:19 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Ah yes, my bad, my reading comprehension isn't at its best when I haven't finished a cup of coffee yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:18 PM |
| 5 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I'm curious if you mean actual physical security or just the perceived notion of a happy, secure, home. Stability is a joke. If anyone thinks just because you're married your relationship is secure, they are delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:12 PM |
| 0 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Relevance? Howso? With more women forming their life arc outside of the family, can they not also build their own self worth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:07 PM |
| 8 | What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?I added some links to the post via edit. Your generalizations, while applicable to some women don't seem to be the majority anymore. (According to CNN which, albeit, isn't the best source) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 04:05 PM |
| 1 | What do western men get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?Kids = can be had without and often are these days. True but, at least in America, paternity isn't assumed unless you're married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Do women put up LMR because they crave being dominated?So there is no joy in the kissing, cuddling on the couch, if there is no sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Do women put up LMR because they crave being dominated?I'm generally submissive but any time I've had a last minute change of heart, it is because I realized I really didn't want to have sex with that person for various reasons including lack of attraction, fear, sleepiness, or I was still in love with my ex. Actually, all those reasons were for the same person and he still held me down and put his dick in me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Why do women hold out (typically beta but not always) men in long term relationships sexually?So I don't think women withholding sex and only being crazy with alphas is as prevalent as some people make it out to be. It isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 02:57 PM |
| 3 | Why do women hold out (typically beta but not always) men in long term relationships sexually?But so many women empathize with men. I understand why a man wouldn't want to be with someone who thought differently about casual sex than them or moreover, had easier access to casual sex than them because it's a sellers market for women generally. Those are preferences. I also understand that there is no way to change this opinion of yours, if these are the only type of women you've encountered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 02:56 PM |
| 4 | Why do women hold out (typically beta but not always) men in long term relationships sexually?Why will women try all kinds of crazy sex with alphas (spanking, face fucking, swallowing, anal, etc.) but then only have dry vanilla sex with the man they are in a long term relationship with. I'm exactly the complete opposite of this statement and know zero women who act like this (NAWALT:)) but... Women who are acting like this, I could see it being because she never actually enjoyed any of those acts and felt pressured into doing them. With the LTR she feels safe and like she shouldn't have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 01:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.That is genius. Honestly, I probably wouldn't notice the paper at all but then again I'd never be in that car with you because I'm in a very satisfying LTR. It's funny, you humble-brag about money. I humble-brag about my integrity. There is probably something to that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 06:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Which I completely respect you for. I'm more just poking the bear from their perspective to better understand TRP from the female side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:41 PM |
| 4 | To the TRPersAll women do not deny sex. Source: me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:16 PM |
| 4 | To the TRPersDo you think it's possible that y'all just haven't been with the highest caliber of women? I think you would find more fulfillment in a relationship that doesn't need "strategy". Just a thought. This is exactly what I think when I read a lot about TRP relationships. They seem catered to spoiled, selfish, self-centered, narcissistic women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.The fact that she got herself into a committed relationship when I was too busy to see her for a couple months does point to the fact that she was probably unsatisfied on some level, but I don't think it was a serious problem for her (or she hid it well because she knew I wouldn't want to be involved with those feelings) Ya, I've been the girl that hid her feelings well in this type of situation way back in high school. Since then, I've only been satisfied with NSA when I was emotionally unavail… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.If my ex in my blue pill days expressed gratitude and long term commitment towards my 4 year commitment to her, I wouldn't be here. But when she left after 3 months of losing my job, I became quite familiar with "Alpha Fux Beta Bux". Your ex is a bitch and acted like a bitch. My man was unemployed for a year and I stuck by him. I'm not some ugly woman without any other options, either. I just saw it as one member of our team being down on his luck. We're in this world together and everyone gets … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:43 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.There was no pressure at all because neither one of us had any sort of romantic feelings, but we had sex multiple times every time we hung out. This is something I don't understand about the underlying RP mentality. It may be off-topic, so feel free to ignore, however, if the "primary motivation" of women is to obtain commitment from a neurological or psychological level wouldn't your friend have been fundamentally unsatisfied in this situation? I don't know you or your friend, just trying to pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:37 PM |
| 2 | What do you think these "tactics" mean/entail?Ya but then you see someone act one out on their SO one day and you realize it's just one more way a person can be a scumbag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:04 AM |
| 1 | What do you think these "tactics" mean/entail?But you generally feel queasy when the salesman leaves... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:27 AM |
| 3 | What do you think these "tactics" mean/entail?One might say a temper tantrum is a calculated maneuver as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:26 AM |
| 2 | What do you think these "tactics" mean/entail?It also is an example that reeks of codependency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:22 AM |
| 1 | How would you defend your pill in one sentence?My man treats me well, I know I'm loved... usually until I'm sore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:19 AM |
| 1 | What is femininity? Female readers: do you consider yourself feminine?How would you define femininity? I define it has being radiant. Wearing things that accentuate your figure. Acting passionately about the things and people you care about. Intelligence. Nurturing and caring. But honestly, I think it's subjective and that every woman has their own ways to be feminine and feel feminine. Is vulnerability an aspect of it? Maternal sentiment? I think being open verbally and emotionally is part of it - caring about others is a vulnerability, communicating is a vulnera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/15 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill, what's one BP thing you've done recently. Blue Pill, what's one RP thing you've done?I've worn dresses all week AND folded all the laundry...even his fap rag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:49 PM |
| 4 | Red Pill, what's one BP thing you've done recently. Blue Pill, what's one RP thing you've done?Next! ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?You wouldn't believe how stubborn some people are and how eager they are to make their partner live in misery. People need to learn to check their pride and stop using sex as a tool. I know this isn't the reality, but I think it could become one. I don't :) A lot of things will get in the way and prevent that from happening if you ask me. What sort of things? Because the woman will drop him like a lead balloon if he does that. The study showed that half of women would do this. Those women seem t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are?Personally, I have a very high sex drive for a female. However, I know I won't have an orgasm if I don't feel safe and loved so I have little interest in uncommitted sex even with someone I am extremely attracted to. I don't know how common that is, but I just can't let go in that way unless I have a healthy relationship and commitment. So while I have a high interest in sex, it definitely does not lead to the same behaviors as a stereotypical male with the same sex drive. Same here. I'm able to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are?Exactly! I've read fanfic and literotica almost every night since my early teens. The visual porn industry is geared towards men because women consume a different type of smut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?Ha! As a general rule, if you have solid communication then you resolve your libido issues quickly and easily. Exactly! I don't think mismatched libidos are a death sentence. I've had to learn to be gracious when my partner says no, as has he. This has also fluctuated throughout our years together but we don't take it personally because it isn't frequent enough to bruise our intimacy - which I see happening all the time in /r/deadbedrooms. I don't understand what you mean here. Do you mean if yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are?I think women are as interested in sex as men but in a different way. I don't think women look at a man in the street and think "yup" or "nope". That doesn't mean a woman doesn't have fantasies of a sexual nature that occupy her mind throughout the day, even as frequently as their male counterparts. When we find someone we trust we are able to bring these fantasies to life but they aren't going to happen with a random "yup" on the street. At least, this is my opinion as a high-libido woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?In regards to the prenup: It's not so much changing their minds as different interpretations of agreed upon terms but, yes, it can lead to angry parties. But also, I've witnessed amicable divorces in my life and while I was not privy to the details, it did instill a belief that two people can decide together they aren't right for each other and split accordingly. I actually did it with my own SO when long distance got to be too much in our early 20s. Now, in our late 20s, we've found each other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/15 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I looked into prenuptial agreements a bit because we're thinking of getting one (I make significantly more but also have a significantly more debt) and it seems like if no one contests it at the time of the divorce and you have appropriate clauses for children and any assets and debts acquired after the marriage, it should hold in court. Assuming of course that it meets the requirements to be legal (in writing, conscionable, etc.) Though I suppose most are contested, which results in a judge put… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/15 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?Howso? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/15 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Bluepills, how would you explain the "where have all the good men gone" trope? And what do women mean when they say "I feel like he's using me for sex" or "Men are just afraid of commitment"?Amen...but I'm a woman...and in a relationship. But this was my mentality until I caught feels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?If the intention is to give up on dating for good, it becomes even more common, of which the most common example would be the widowed grandma who dedicates her life to her grandkids. Or a divorced mom who gives up on dating for good and focuses solely on her children. Wouldn't a woman who gives up dating for good never choose become a mother or grandmother, though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 08:21 PM |
| 7 | Female ideal of masculinity versus male ideal of masculinity?I think sometimes we care more what our own gender thinks than the opposite one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:41 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I really appreciate your contribution to the discussion because as a member of society and a woman, I've never really broke down these norms. Nor have I had the opportunity to discuss with someone who can capture their existence, and the pressure they cause, in words. I know their is a sub for WGTOW but have no idea if it focuses on breaking traditional female gender roles. If so, the term may become appropriated and used to describe the subset of norms placed on women. It will be interesting (f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?Living the life! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?So most men don't ever bother contesting custody because the system is stacked against them to ensure that they lose except under the most extreme cases of neglect. Child support aside because that money is supposed to go to the children, I believe the financial situations can easily be circumvented by an iron clad prenuptial agreement. I've read here (and only here, not when I was studying Family Law) that most don't hold up in court -which, if true, is unfortunate. I do disagree about custody.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I luckily know women who break that mold and am happy to have them in my life. There is actually a sub. Someone in this thread pointed me too it but I'm not sure how good it is: /r/WGTOW | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?Where is the systematic disenfranchisement? Is it in the divorces and custody? I do see that as a reason for men drop out. Especially with how difficult it is for a father to gain custody. But, as someone who makes more than her partner, I think the negative consequences of alimony and divorce exist for the party going into the relationship with the most assets. Couldn't I be "going my own way" because I fear the alimony machine too? I do see the difference, though, in that I am not the norm (ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 06:17 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?What lies at the end of anyone's path? I'm sure a woman could be happy at the end of her life with a good amount of experiences had, a few friends, a nice amount of money saved up, etc. Companionship can be found in a multitude of ways and some women, not me but some, just don't need it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 06:07 AM |
| 3 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?MGTOW is first and foremost about rejecting the idea that one's manhood is conditional upon service to society. One of these forms of service to society has historically been marrying (or cohabiting with) a woman and supporting her and (if applicable) her children. Rejecting marriage/dating/committed relationships with women is a consequence of rejecting the idea that a "real man" must serve society. Women are seen, generally speaking, as inherently useful to society because of their reproductiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 06:04 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I don't mean women who look at men as evil, spurned to believe they will never worry men again. I simply mean women who for lack of better words don't prioritize dating, and thus don't miss it when it's gone. Their lives are about building their own "status" or, in reality, devoting time to hobbies, travel, friends, investments, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 05:37 AM |
| 3 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?But why is choosing to direct your own life outside of a relationship a feminist ideology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 05:31 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?My understanding of MGTOW is that they drop out of the dating market because in their opinion dating, relationships and marriage are all stacked against them and they do not wish to be part of that any longer. Ah, I guess that is the disconnect. Though I still don't understand why WGTOW can't apply to a particular woman who sees dating stacked against herself and drops out because it's too much of a hassel or they want to direct their lives without a someone else's influence, or some other rando… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 05:30 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I disagree. I think that it's only shitty if you want to be a nurturer and can't or the converse, you don't want to be a nurterer and are forced to become one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 05:22 AM |
| 3 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?That's a horrible reality. I come from a large family with unmarried men and women who are definitely involved in the younger generations life. I'm sure both realities exist though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?My understanding of MGTOW is that they drop out of the dating market to focus on themselves or they thrive better on a solo trajectory. I imagine that could be a WGTOW as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?Nice! Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 02:31 AM |
| 6 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?What do you think the difference is? Status among peers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/15 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Is there such a thing as WGTOW?I know many who have, happily. I was just curious how it fit into the redpill/bluepill mold | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/15 11:03 PM |
| -1 | Trp and the anger phaseAll the sons that guilt their parents for things through tears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/15 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal?Yes! I have to fight with men to get on the bus before me. You. Were. Here. First! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/14 11:27 PM |
| 4 | How do you explain the fact that progressive countries have much more violence against women than conservative ones?Under reporting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/14 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal?Not so much a vote but a gathering of opinions. NonRP is welcome if you want to elaborate, they were just my target audience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/14 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers strongly disagree with the TRP conclusion that Women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. There is a fallacy in their disdain, and here is why:Wow. Thank you. My first gold :) I appreciate discourse. Respect is just part of the package when you're exchanging ideas. I recently discovered Redpill-Bluepill mentality and find it fascinating for all sorts of reasons. Thank you for allowing me to pick your brain and sharing your rationale/experiences with me. And, you know, the gold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/14 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal?I agree with you that women can evoke some strange sort of response when they act out or bratty that attracts rescuers but I just can't agree that it doesn't extend to men too. On a base level, outside of social stigma men put on other men, an amateur male can attract a female purely triggered by their desire to nurture. I've seen it happen so many times with woman trying to fix a, for lack of better term, deadbeat I just believe we are all equally capable of falling into "amateur or pro", peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal?Amateurs of both gender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 05:58 PM |
| 6 | Do any RPMen believe men and women are equal?Equally capable of mature and immature thoughts and actions, being selfish or selfless, rational or irrational, able to self sooth/self corrent or feed into the bad behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers strongly disagree with the TRP conclusion that Women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. There is a fallacy in their disdain, and here is why:We all go through tough times. All you can do is grow and try not to blame people for the actions of others. Good luck to you! Edit: prematurely clicked submit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 05:56 AM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers strongly disagree with the TRP conclusion that Women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. There is a fallacy in their disdain, and here is why:I agree that there are spoiled people with entitlement complexes of both genders. I also agree that it is a red flag. Personally, though, the type of immaturity you seem to see as prevalent I see as a rarity. Shrug. This could be contributed to many factors: age, location, education or experience level, ppl acting certain ways when dating(?), etc. I also believe you chose the people you surround yourself with - with both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers strongly disagree with the TRP conclusion that Women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. There is a fallacy in their disdain, and here is why:No advice is needed and our "issues" are practically nonexistent. I was just making the point that both genders are capable of acting childish. To limit that to women alone is a faulty argument. Further, to equate women (or men) to teenagers as a default makes it acceptable when they act like one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Blue Pillers strongly disagree with the TRP conclusion that Women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house'. There is a fallacy in their disdain, and here is why:I am a woman. When I act childish, I either self-correct or my SO points it out then I self-correct. When my SO acts childish, he does the same and I do as well. Are we both acting as "teenagers" sometimes even though we are in our late 20s? Yes. Does it have anything to do with our gender? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 10:15 PM |
| 6 | I'm teetering on the edge.Creating a scenario to make your SO think you're cheating/may cheat on them to increase your "SMV", it may not be textbook lying but it is still deceit | /r/ExRedPill | 18/10/14 04:56 AM |
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