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Chasing Chad12112019/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 01:48 AM
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That's a question of epistemology. We all have to deem it ourselves. Each of us is a judge into the factual nature of a claim, based on how well that belief is rationally justified and in accordance of what we already know to be true. Personally, I see value in the scientific method and applying rational skepticism into claims to vet their credibility. That's why I'm asking you why I should take your claims of sources seriously. Ok I get it that you haven't personally verified how credible NYT o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 02:48 PM
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Percentage of news articles that end up being factually accurate Who deems whether something is factually accurate or not and how reputable is that source? So what is that percentage then that made you decide that NYT is a reputable source, where I can find that data? You're as biased as I am! I am not saying you are biased as I am, I am saying that your sources are biased and possibly mine are as well. So I ask you again why you turn to sources that say the election was fraudulent. Because unli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 03:23 AM
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You're thinking in black-and-white. I'm looking for sources with sufficient credibility. Let's say their articles are objective or at least factually accurate with reasonable coverage 90+% of the time. By that metric, I'll give the NYT a more serious read than the NY Post or your hard-core alt-right blog sites. Whether a specific NYT article is accurate deserves further investigation. Do you have a NYT, or of a source of similar fidelity, which also calls the election results into question backe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 02:19 AM
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When Trump won in 2016 there were also anomalies. Are you going to say 2016 was also a farce? I expect you to be consistent. When Trump has won there wasn't this amount of mail in voting, but who knows, that is the problem here, the standards for this so called safest election process are one big farce, the election process is a black box and I suspect quite intentionally so. not reputable journalism Does this constitutes as a reputable journalism in your books: https://www.nytimes.com/interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:57 AM
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Here are some more for you: https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/11/statistical_anomalies_in_the_2020_presidential_election.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:39 AM
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I'd ask first what makes you think anything wasn't above board in the first place. Mail-in ballots have been in place for decades and nobody has batted an eye. Not nearly at that scale, these sound dubious to me: https://visiontimes.com/2020/12/13/the-2020-presidential-election-eight-flagrant-irregularities.html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:22 AM
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You emotional reaction to facts is not a counter-argument. I'm not interested in arguing about this based on how you or I feel about it. I'm only interested in whether or not things are true. And how would you go about doing that exactly, ballots are not public information that can be verified, what is the visibility ordinary citizens have on the election process that allows you to say whether something is or isn't true. You emotional reaction to facts is not a counter-argument Emotional reactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:02 AM
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P-values are between 0 and 1. This is what I mean by you parroting things you don't actually understand, because you don't like the idea that social sciences can actually study and demonstrate things you don't want to believe. You are correct I haven't touched statistics in years, I meant p-value of 0.05. I don't trust social scientists at all, I have large doubts about climate science as well, since I understand that the research of global warming is itself not as clear as snow. Obviously I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 11:40 PM
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Ok then, if you are well versed on the subject, then I am sure you know that correlation doesn't mean causation, how exactly did they control for the bias I had mentioned in your study. Also there is a systemic problem with all p-value based researches out there, which is probably not relevant to this specific study, but in general when you have scientists with political bias in mind, either because they actually believe such bias or because being a heretic in academia will cost you your career,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:48 PM
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Matches don't mean shit my dude if they aren't quality. Wanna take a little better that the quality of matches of the hot guy, on average, is way lower? What do you mean way lower, in that women want to pump and dump you like men usually do to women? that might be the case if you are in your 30's still don't have your shit together, and they are now looking for a well off beta who would be expected to share "emotional" labor and more importantly his resources. Then pseudo scientists from social …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:04 AM
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Sounds an awful lot like inc*l content, which is banned here. So it is incel content to acknowledge how important looks are? Then why don't you try using a photo of an average guy on one of the dating sites, put in your bio how you respect women and how important it is to fight the patriarchy and the rest of feminist BS. Then use a profile with your photo or someone that looks like you and write a typically chauvinistic bio, and then compare who will get more matches, that is quite a good study …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:12 AM
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Women are not biologically designed to be happy, at least not in a monogamous society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:51 AM
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The reason that you personally can get away with acting like a cuck, talking about shit like sharing the burden with women is because you are in the top 10% of looks, you would of been treated like a house pet if you would of been an average looking guy acting in that way. Most of my friends who were successful with women, never had treated them with respect nor showed any interests in sharing choirs with them. Women are either attracted to good looking guys like you are, or to men who compensat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:15 PM
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Let's agree to disagree then, even if you are correct about women changing their preferences when they become older, it is the preference of young and attractive women that matters not the preferences of older and less attractive women who seek BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:08 PM
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Also, when the average woman isn’t feeling valued in her relationship, she’s not going to want to keep fucking that man I see that is why women can't get enough of bad boys, because they are known for valuing women. Valuing women have little to do with attraction and if it does the correlation is in the other direction. I'm not saying that being valued makes her wet, but it keeps her wet I don't believe it does, what keeps a woman wet is the belief that she is with a man who displays enough alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:24 PM
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re you saying most women have rape fantasies? Or fantasies where they’re abused? Do you think most women dream of and look forward to a life where they’re tossed aside and not valued? 🤨 If you believe that being valued is what makes the average woman wet you are either oblivious or disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:29 PM
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How was this measured? I have a working theory that sexual motivation declines when women feel an imbalance of emotional labor is felt Yeah of course continue thinking like a cuck and see where it gets you, that is why women have rape fantasies, because rapists are known for sharing their emotional labor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 03:18 PM
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And yet another study confirms that marriage is for chumps
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 03:15 PM
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Okay. I think men do a cost-benefit analysis like everyone else and realise they love the woman so they want to marry her. It is very easy to decide that for most men, the alternative to a long term relationship is another long term relationship, the choices you can pick from are usually within the same age range and as you say, long term relationship are about comptability and you are no longer compatible with younger and attractive women, so there aren't any real alternatives. Either you decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:46 AM
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No not at all, but I could see that 10 year ahead I would become miserable it wasn't because of her, it is just that we are not really built for monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:41 AM
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Perhaps, I still believe the absolute majority of men marry because they don't really have better alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:22 AM
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longest was 4 years, never again because it is a loosing game, it is much better to pay for sex with young and attractive women, at least in my book, if you are a person who can't stand being by yourself or want to have children, then I guess you have no choice, but I don't have these constraints fortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:20 AM
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Not sure what you are talking about, my older friend has probably slept with more women than 99.9% of men and he still keeps going, why? because he can, I am quite sure you would of kept going as well if you could
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:18 AM
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If these considerations have never occurred to you, you likely have never been in a long enough relationship. I have, but never again Every guy here says “I’d rather have a pleasant 7/10 gf than a 9/10 gf that’s a bitch”. You won't have a 7/10 gf when she is 40, and if not 40 then 50, you will be worn out by that time though and that is the destiny of most men who follow the mainstream way of life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:16 AM
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Some are, but I don't believe that most men will settle down if they truly had abundance, most men never do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 10:46 PM
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I don't believe this comparison will hold for much longer, I think we are heading towards where Japan is now each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:12 PM
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most men chose marriage even when prostitution was widely available They kind of chose both, and at a time in which marriage was much more favorable for men. While certain eras of western culture that we now think of as "trad" essentially absolved men of all consequence of cheating, other eras and cultures did not. For example, in east asia, (also where the marriage of prostitutes was somewhat common), infidelity on the man's end was seen as dishonorable to his mother. Given that their culture i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:04 PM
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Men still chose not to. Strange hearing such words of praise to the originators of the patriarchy from you of all people, these men would sleep around at brothels as well and as you already know women had played the roles subservient maids which had made the arrangement more favorable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:43 PM
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You would never commit to a 40 year old woman if you had believed that you are able to have sex with younger women, that is just the story that you are telling yourself because you know that from a certain age your prospect will start to dwindle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:41 PM
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Men marry because they don't see a much better alternatives to acquiring sex in the long horizon, no man would ever marry to an alternative of fucking hot 20 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:39 PM
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Yes that is probably where we are headed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:55 PM
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Western men are in a transition period I believe, once BP way of thinking dies, and men acknowledge that the optimal strategy for the majority of men is simply purchasing sex with young and attractive women, the demand for marrying post wall women will plummet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:56 PM
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If you believe that finding sperm is a difficult task for women, then you are delusional. It is the act of finding a beta cuck who will provide for a life time. I think future looks grim for men from the standpoint of marriage, dating and progeny I believe that it is excellent news for the majority of men marriage is a terrible deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:48 PM
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This would make a greater percentage of the population marriage material. Great more beta cucks for everyone, I prefer it as it is now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:30 PM
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Fair enough, when you are not committing any resources you are playing the game as it should be played, no doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:13 PM
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There is no collective way to handle this, these men need to start paying for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:05 PM
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If a black person is say walking or jogging or checking out new construction, they are more likely to initiate contact with that person and possibly kill him. Ok, we are talking about a population of over 10 million, and yet we had about no more than 15 such cases a year, 15 too much obviously and every case is a tragedy, but that on it's self can't skew this statistics, on top of a bias in which the media doesn't give a flying fuck over whites being unlawfully killed by the police so that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:47 PM
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If blacks are more likely to commit violent crime by a proportion of x10, then they will be over represented in lethal encounters with the police. But per each such encounter the likelihood of a white man being shot is higher than that of a black man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:20 PM
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Yes although very useful for left wing propaganda, let's stick to non propaganda please and take into consideration that the lethal crime rate is unequal between blacks and whites which explain this disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:14 PM
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And yet anecdotes aside, a white male is more likely to be killed by the police than a black male in a lethal encounter with the police, and not by a small margin if I recall correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:11 PM
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He interacts with men constantly, when he is out and about, at work, at the store, at the gas station.. These numbers are general and not specific which makes them the most accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:05 PM
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Why does this matter to men who are not murderers which is virtually all men, their probability to be killed is still higher than for women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:01 PM
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Why are we looking specifically at dates and not in general? He was talking from a point of view of someone who was privileged not to worry about being raped and murdered on a date, but he was oblivious to the fact that he was more likely to be murdered in general than her, so I fail to see how this constitutes as male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 01:55 AM
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LeBron James has rich privilege but can still be a victim of racial oppression Is that so, how would that play out in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:18 AM
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It is about murders in general, so in general it is more likely for him to be murdered than her, so if she has more reason to worry than him about being murdered during a date, he has more reason to worry about being murdered in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 12:16 AM
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Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:24 PM
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I can' be certain of that once they have that garbage statistic in the top of the page, this can very well be ideologically driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:24 PM
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That is a myth https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/?sh=75d248da2596
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:22 PM
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Dubious, this contains the 78 cent on the dollar myth, https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/?sh=75d248da2596 Also read their test, seems like they had failed to find the results they wanted in the first time and they then changed the test. Because men had scored better on average they informed the employers that men are scored higher on average, then they tested on a man and a woman who had the same score on the easy questions but they didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:21 PM
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I didn't worry about being raped or murdered. So ya, I'd say there's still a lot of work to do That is because you don't actually know the numbers: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1635092/ total of 215,273 homicides were studied, 77% of which involved male victims and 23% female victims
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:06 PM
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even though it’s illegal they do tend to be discriminated against in the workplace and at schools Can you give examples of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:03 PM
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https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-equal-countries-in-the-world.html This time by actual gini coefficient, according to you all countries on this list had traditionally patriarchal values, and at the very least Ukraine is much more patriarchal and sexist than the US
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:20 PM
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In a more matriarchal/egalitarian society where women are not told they’re unfit to work or lead there are far higher numbers in the workforce as well as upper management, which kind of contradicts your assertion it’s IQ that’s to blame. The difference between men and women in terms of occupation choices is the highest in the most egalitarian societies such as the Nordic countries for instance: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/countries-with-less-gender-equity-have-more-women-in-stem-…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:01 PM
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Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:22 PM
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It’s pretty funny ngl, how people are telling me the US is now matriarchal when you’re all still dealing with misogyny and glass ceilings for women We are not dealing with misogyny any more that we are dealing with misandry, also there is no glass ceilings for women, what there is is a difference in preferences, coupled with higher competence and IQ on the higher end of the distribution in favor of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:39 PM
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The difference between a 25 year old and 35 year old woman (lookwise) is barely anything Surely you are trolling right? a high quality trolling I must admit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:45 PM
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Not really sure about that, crime in Saudi Arabia is lower than in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:45 AM
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There is no going back to the trad days, women's choice on average is very clear, ride the carousel until they are forced to settle or succeed locking the men they want. Either men change their strategies or prepare being beta cucks for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:27 AM
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WTF are you on about? who is her? the idea that wealth inequality is responsible for a crisis in masculinity is a ridiculous left wing dribble, which can't be backed by anything: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-11-17/hong-kong-needs-to-tackle-its-worsening-inequality Hong Kong is more unequal than the UK and Canada for instance, but it's crime rate per 100k is lower than UK's by x4 and by x6 than Canada's: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HKG/hong-kong/crime-rate-statistics …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:31 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 10:29 PM
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So what does it prove then? how does a depression post a world war compare to our times?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:26 PM
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Ok sure, men living 100 years ago were experiencing crisis in masculinity, then what is the importance of today if men at any point in time had experienced crisis in masculinity then what are we even discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:49 PM
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The gap between the boomers and the silent generation was multiple times greater than the gap between millenials and gen z, and I believe even between gen x and gen z. The boomers were revolutionary compared to that time, even if you account that there were lots of changed made by later generations, the biggest ground breaking changes were done by the boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:02 PM
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I have only heard such responses from femcels in the past, no offence, an average woman would never say something like that, maybe you are an anomaly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:58 PM
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Hippies existed but not in large number to actually shift anything majorly sociological wise What are you talking about these mutants have shifted the entire culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:54 PM
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In general women wanna date average or above How do you know what is average? would you consider dating every second man in your age group just on looks alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:51 PM
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Rich coming from you, has the wealth of someone like Steve Jobs came at the expense of the rest world, meaning that if neither he nor Apple would of existed the standard of living for the rest of the world would of increased?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:49 PM
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Men today are more prosperous than men living 100 years ago or 200 years ago, and I am sure you agree that men living 100 years ago didn't have a crisis in masculinity, so it is unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:45 PM
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money
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:42 PM
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Capital and labor both need to share in the rewards of increased productivity Well it is a big problem that manual labor is automated or shipped away to cheaper countries, but it is impossible to stop the progress of technology even if tariffs are the solution to offshoring jobs, it is as true now as it was at every other industrial revolution through out history, the solution is not to redistribute wealth but to invest in requalification of works to other fields which are more needed, I still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:53 PM
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Yeah it is the way it works when you don't know understand how the world and the economy works. There is no fixed amount of wealth that is redistributed, wealth is created by the productive endeavor and naturally the most productive members are rewarded the most
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:42 PM
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Well it's nuisanced, but the belief that if you have extremely wealthy people then it came out of the expense of someone else is utterly wrong, and it's sounds to me like it is not far from what you are saying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:31 AM
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What exactly are you railing against, uneven wealth distribution or the erosion of US manufacturing and the offshoring of US jobs which had left lots of young blue collar men without jobs? Because although they both are somewhat related being the products of globalization I am not entirely sure they are interchangeable. In any case the situation today is among the best in history and the men are probably the least masculine so it is still unrelated, although a different worthwhile topic for disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:23 AM
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Great news, less betas that will get cucked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:20 AM
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It’s not a crisis of masculinity. Masculine men exist, and always will. Women will always reward them with sex Not really sure that is quite correct, if you look at Japan women reward feminine men with sex, what is absolutely true is that there would always be men who are rewarded with more sex and ones who are rewarded with less, there will never be an even distribution in a free sexual market. The problem with non masculine men is not that they don't get sex, the problem is that they are menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:19 AM
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Ohh believe me they have all the money needed to buy who ever they want to buy now as well, adding 0's to their accounts will make absolutely no difference. The state of men today have little to do with economy, other factors play a much bigger role.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:14 AM
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Who gives a fuck, let me ask you something. if I take Elon Musk and Bill Gates and add 100000000000000000000000 zeros to their bank account today, this will make it more uneven by a shitton, do you believe that this will in any way change how masculine the average man is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:05 AM
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Hmm ok although that isn't what I was getting at but yeah I don't believe that upbringing is the major cause here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:01 AM
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Nope didn't say that at all, merely stating the causes not the solution, there is no solution, men and women will increasingly grow apart and sex will become more commoditized
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:00 AM
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Not sure what you are getting at, what I had meant is that there is an acute validation shortage for young men which is psychologically destructive, there is a bottleneck of validation that didn't used to exist before since monogamy is more distributive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:56 AM
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Some of you angry RP dudes and MGTOWs be honest is that what you actually want I want to sleep with attractive and young women and to never get married
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:47 AM
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Very accurate, the root cause could be traced to the sexual revolution and other social changes such as the participation of women in the work force. The above had pushed the median marriage age towards the 30's and in the vacuum the short term relationships market had began to emerge, this market was much more uneven than the monogamous market which had basically led to the creation of all the pills we discuss in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:45 AM
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Totally unrelated to a crisis in masculinity, we are living in the most prosperous time ever maybe with the exception of the 90's, and men are as pussified as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:40 AM
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most of them are scammers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:01 AM
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but part of that reasoning is the assumption that you'll always be able to have sex with younger attractive girls even as you get into your 40s and beyond Ohh you mean idiots? it's absolutely possible for older men to bang younger women, they just need to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 07:31 PM
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Yes simps are bottom tier, they are asking to be abused, they shouldn't be blamed because they are creepy on any other description women through for unattractive men, they should be blamed because they are pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:41 PM
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one FDS female buys a ring for herself and everyone loses their minds. Like as a marriage ring? lmao that is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:54 PM
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MGTOW is what happens when your IQ > 120 and you are not in the top 20th percentile in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:50 PM
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I don't see how other men could help me, I don't believe I have ever felt a desire to share my feelings with anyone, nor do I feel relived discussing my problems with others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:49 PM
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Bunch of ugly cunts debating about ORANGE MAN bad or white supremacy or some other garbage, no idea why that garbage sub was banned actually
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:28 PM
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There is no real condition called incel when sex can be purchased, there are men who are in dire need of validation because they are deemed as bottom tier by society, the struggle of an incel is an inner struggle primarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:08 PM
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Hip to waist is the most important factor, lots of advantages to smaller boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:19 AM
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How can you separate recreational drug use from selling and possession? People can't get drugs if nobody is selling them. One cannot *do* drugs unless they have them in their possession. I've never met a drug dealer who didn't do drugs themself.This isn't even acknowledging the fact that the a lot of these drugs they were punishing people for were pumped into urban neighborhoods by the CIA And what effects does selling drugs such as crystal meth and heroine or fentanyl has on your community? the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:14 AM
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This is circular logic. You're saying there's no jobs because crime but the reason there is crime is because no jobs. That is why I have said that initially the government will have to step in and allocate funds for both policing and finding job opportunities, until the private sector increases investment into areas that have become safer. What came first, the lack of jobs or crime? Black people moved out of the south into urban areas because there were industrial jobs there. The industrial jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:49 PM
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I don't support defunding the police so that the amount of prosecutions with whites equalizes, I support it because why the fuck does the LAPD need a billion dollar annual budget? Spread some of that tax money around into impoverished communities and maybe they wouldn't kill eachother so damn much. You do realize that blacks kill each other in record numbers right? imagine you are an investor, would you choose to invest in an area in which the likelihood of your business being burned down or rub…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:42 PM
3

Who said anything about brides, having sex with 19 year olds for money is definitely better than being a betacuck for a 40 year western woman, that is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:22 PM
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I believe you have answered your own question then, why one shouldn't marry western women is crystal clear just from reading our conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:15 PM
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If you're that shallow, then marriage will never be for you. That's not society's fault or gynocentricism's fault or "divorce rape's" fault. I see, so marriage is for beta cucks who would marry you after you have finished banging all the hot guys you could until you are forced to settle and me refusing to take such a deal makes me shallow. Statistics only 13% of women ages 20 to 25 have a double digit n-count. If you have stats that say otherwise, present them. Show me the stats on women who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:59 PM
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Why do you care so much of how criminals are treated? let me ask you this, do you support defunding the police or decreasing the police force in black neighborhoods so that the amount of prosecutions with whites would equalize? Because part of the reason for what you are talking about is the fact that there are much more policemen per square in black neighborhoods than in richer white areas. And War on Drugs is bullshit I agree, but in order to believe that it was created to enslave blacks you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:51 PM
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I see, so on the one hand not to treat marriage as a Russian Roulette, yet on the other risk stumbling upon someone like you who is about to hit the wall and is looking for a bailout because the carousel ride is now over. You can't have both, if factoring for behavior such as yours, marriage is off the table, just imagine how many hot 19 year olds can a man fuck on all the savings he will gather from not marrying you and overspending on house and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:38 PM
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I remember your posts, you used to post about how women should only fuck hot alpha men, I vaguely remember if it was ideologically driven, but none the less you didn't seemed all the preoccupied with marriage that is for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:27 PM
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I don't understand your current preoccupation with marriage and what MGTOW think, didn't you used to post about not every wanting to marry and only fucking hot alphas, why do you give a fuck about marriage all of the sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:21 PM
1

Every single person has a right to worry about anything they wish to worry about, which includes all women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:17 PM
1

If the standard of being oppressed or discriminated against is the ability to ascertain whether something will or won't happen in the future, means that every single human is currently discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:14 PM
2

Which current law forbids you from owning property or holding a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:06 PM
1

Could you please elaborate on the current oppression of black people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:03 PM
2

Define financial autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:02 PM
2

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:01 PM
2

Left scars on who?? the only scar you have is either low IQ or extreme amount of entitlement, I suggest to shut the fuck up and be thankful you haven't been born in the myriad of shit hole countries out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:58 PM
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No I have said that you are retarded because you think what has happened to women in the 1700's has anything to do with you, explain to me how something that happened to women in the 1700's has anything to do with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:53 PM
1

There is nothing to answer, what ever happened to women in the 1700s has no more to do with you as it is with me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:48 PM
1

That is irrelevant to you, only the present is, and in present you are one of the most privileged people in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:47 PM
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Not being able to own property or hold jobs Are you retarded or just trolling? What remains is a scar. The injury isn't there, but we are still burdened with the knowledge of how we were treated in the past and that at any time our rights can be taken away from us if someone thinks we don't deserve them. We aren't bleeding, but we know an injury has happened. Ohh I see you have answered here, so retarded it is, there is no scar, you are an over privileged western whore, stop whining already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:40 PM
1

Men are more competent at the tail-end of the distribution
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:04 PM
3

based and dogpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:02 PM
-1

LMAO nice one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:22 PM
1

Men are puking off the brainwashing of the boomers and gen-x, in UK the younger generations are the most conservative ever, zoomers are also more conservative than millennials, the younger generations give me hope for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:42 PM
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They can dig all they like on a hourly basis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:20 PM
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Because of what you have said earlier, most men look like shit to you, so they have nothing left to lose with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:01 PM
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Yes not that different than most of marriages after a decade or so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:00 PM
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Of course it does, attraction from the man to the young woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:53 PM
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You're under the impression no adults are raped in the sex industry? You are really uneducated. Adults are raped on the streets as well, yet we don't ban walking on the streets do we?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:52 PM
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Also, the problem with the sex industry is the exploitation of people, including minors. Not "dictate to other women what they can or can't do with their body". Then prosecute pedos not consenting adults. Also, goes to shows you don't know shit about feminism. There's sex positive feminists and sex-negative feminists. What ever I am talking about the usually obese blue haired western whores, I don't classify them further than that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:49 PM
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Most men are either mentally weak or retarded, but that is besides the point, feminists should mind their own fucking business and not dictate to other women what they can or can't do with their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:42 PM
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Women having consensual sex with whoever they want is NOT "Bullying" That is exactly why prostitution needs to be fully legalized, so why do obese and disgusting feminists try to tell other women what they can or can't do with their body?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:31 PM
-1

I am not talking about marriage here, I am talking about exchanging sex for money
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:29 PM
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furry meetups WTF are you doing near furries?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:26 PM
-1

Well then it is my luck that I can afford 19 year old pussy for years and years to come, there is much higher demand for my dollars than for 19 year old pussy where I currently am, that I can tell you for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:28 PM
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Pick one, if most men are unattractive at any age than there is no wall for most men to hit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:26 PM
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Fortunately enough women's attraction to money is universal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:22 PM
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No need I don't want to bother myself with older women when I can have younger ones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:48 PM
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As I have said neither one of us will be convinced, there usually is one way to resolve such conflicts and as a history buff you probably know what that way is, at this point I believe 70% or more of Republicans and about 20% of democrats believe that this election was fraudulent, the case against OJ Simpson was also dismissed by the courts are you stupid enough to also believe that he is innocent? this election was won only due to the Democrat crazy overreach with mail-in ballots, there is no w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By7yNZsa8x0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsEWwPZ4ROQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf9DwmUMxFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYi_97KVS8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJFnv7rX-mI This is a huge waste of time neither one of us will be ever convinced, only a civil war will probably sort this mess in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:26 PM
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Cucks like OP, but it doesn't mean he should be ok with that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:55 PM
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Are you honestly stupid enough to believe that Biden who couldn't get 1000 people to attend his rallies, was able to beat Obama and become the most popular president ever?? it is right in front of your eyes for fuck sake.. Pennsylvania rewriting it's constitution to allow mail-in ballots to arrive 3 days post the election, hundreds of testimonies of observers that they were too far to observe anything, mail employees who admit under penalty of perjury that they were told to change the date of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:51 PM
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You ooze of mediocrity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:58 PM
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If you just want to get rid of democracy and support authoritarianism Funny you should say that given that is your party that is rigging elections and your friends in big tech are suppressing stories about the Biden family corruption prior to an election, going as far as censoring the New York Post later admitting that in fact the stories about the laptop were actually true and Hunter is being investigated by the FBI after this sham election was over, and we haven't even started talking about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:54 PM
1

LMAO is that some sort of AI that generated this?? no way he has actually said that thing in public
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:06 PM
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The first one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:30 PM
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No shit, the response is a declining marriage rate, the process will be complete in couple of decades and the majority of you will become simply tax payers instead of married women by the time that you are 40, the younger ones will sell their body in order to not be working at shitty low wage jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:50 AM
3

Do I need to be a corporation in order to afford young hot women in a developing country?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:35 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUGMWExksc&t=620s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:05 AM
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Good point, so long as betas don't mind being cucked that is exactly what will happen, but take a look at the marriage rate, these cucks are slowly wising up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:57 AM
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Some of it is on a fucking tape, you are just ok with rigging election so long as it is against Trump, why do you believe Biden is any better than Trump, the man is as corrupt as they come plus unlike Trump an actual racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:54 AM
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Why? I am quite content with fucking hot 18 year olds, you can laugh by all means but I am quite certain your man would prefer fucking 18 years to you when you hit 40
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:52 AM
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Why is that hard to believe? do you find it difficult to believe that it is relatively easy to exchange sex for money with young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:49 AM
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Kind of hard to label it a conspiracy theory when you have a tape of the employees in Georgia removing ballots from under the table when the inspectors are gone. Videos in which Republican inspectors are getting kicked out by security, it is in plain sight
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:48 AM
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its a revenge fantasy so based boys like you can feel good about not getting pussy Ohh I have enough pussy trust me, I don't fuck women above the age of 20 as a rule of thumb, I am currently living in a country in which I am easily in the top 1% in terms of income, so pussy is easily obtainable for me, and it will remain to be so for years and years to come. I don't understand why do you view it as a revenge fantasy, there is no fantasy here, men will just do what I have done, fuck young and hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:46 AM
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Aside from the children how is this any different then what women do in their 20's vs their 30's?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:38 AM
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Aside from the children which is probably not that common, how is that not the reality, what do you believe OLD if not exactly this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:35 AM
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lol nice one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:34 AM
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Well if you count dead people and all the shit then went down in democrat strongholds with the mail-in voting then I am sure you are correct. But Trump is probably correct this election was stolen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:30 AM
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E-prostitution is prostitution for degenerate simps who buy that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:28 AM
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Nothing unfortunately, the shit that went down with this election is simply unbelievable, a guy who can't get more than 1000 people to attend his rallies has managed to gather more votes than Obama, one of the most charismatic presidents of our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:25 AM
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https://winteryknight.com/2020/06/02/domestic-violence-rates-are-higher-for-homosexual-couples-than-for-heterosexual-couples-4/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:23 AM
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Fuck no, do you want women to starfish fuck you like they have done in the 50's? You will have more luck purchasing pussy on a hourly basis than going the marriage route, at least in the first case the woman has more incentives to please you and she doesn't feel like a slave who now has to fuck only you for the next 50 years like it would of been if you were married. Once you understand how women are, I don't see how men could come to a different conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:42 AM
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Good points. But the Eurodollar system that currently exists in the shadows that no one truly understands coupled with inflationary fiats controlled by central banks who have been printing money like crazy has it's issues as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:35 AM
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why do you assume that intelligent and wealthy women are not whores as well? or that there is a correlation between good looks and high n-counts for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:44 PM
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I am sure that they are just cucks with lots of money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:40 PM
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We need a comeback for conservativism Lol. Not going to happen, actually sugar babies are great, you get to fuck young women without spending money on older ones (bigger house, cars, children)... the return on investment is much higher than marriage without the risks. The bigger this trends gets the better it will become for men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:31 PM
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lmao.. if white women and men are stupid enough to adopt a degenerate culture then it is just a matter of time until someone exploits their stupidity, if it weren't the jews it would of been someone else.. low IQ is a huge problem, and I don't really see a remedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:28 PM
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These memes stuff aside, you are not like the average woman, I had made a post before to try to understand how many women like you are there in PPD, you are the minority perhaps in the 20%-30% the rest of women prefer the current dating culture so your attempts are futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:55 PM
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You do understand that you are different than the average woman right? the average woman wants to fuck men she knows are above her league until she is forced to settle, you are literally wasting your time treating these women as clueless as if they don't really understand what is going on, they do understand, they just don't want to start fucking betas in their 20's if they could postpone it to their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:44 PM
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Good for her taking these putrid white liberal hags money, how long can one wait for these fucking boomers to drop dead
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:39 PM
1

These are the worst purge week post ever.. stop promoting the cucking of betas
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:37 PM
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Aren't lesbian relationships the most violent ones and with the least amount of sex in the long run?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:35 PM
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It is not really conversional, it was widely known for years that women enjoy being dominated, what there is to even talk about, feminism is incompatible with women's innate sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:24 PM
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They are in the minority, most women want to be dominated, OP is on point, he accurately describes the desires of the majority of metro whores who on the one hand bitch and moan about the patriarchy and on the other secretly want to be dominated by strong and "toxic" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:44 PM
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What might you say to this? bUt whAt aB0ut sTroNk iNdePEENdeNt wAmEn? Funnily, despite their “breaking free of the patriarchy” they still feel the basic need to be dominated, which results in their rape fetishes, and the growth of the BDSM movement in higher than normal level in these women, since they cant be dominated in any sort of normal way. The metoo movement is just a way of them trying to look like they aren’t the slavewhores they are, blaming him for her need to submit. You may have a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:00 PM
1

There isn't any choice here that is really my taste, closest is probably Kristen Bell
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 12:33 PM
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You are somehow making it sound that women have it worse now for some reason, OLD works much better for women than real life approaches. they have a huge dating pool at their disposal, I don't believe women on average would prefer total strangers approaching them when they have OLD, but I might by wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:28 PM
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Dam man that is rough as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:07 PM
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P.s I’m absolutely loving the pearl clutching about wap, that’s exactly what it intended to do ;) No what it is intended to do is to rid stupid degenerates who listen to that shit of their money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:03 PM
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Don't worry you will be able to be harvested for your resources when you are in your 30's
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:36 PM
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This is where I'm a bit confused, too. Men here boast about how important N-count is, but then they're like "well, if she doesn't fuck me by the third date, I'm out." Um... which one is it because you can't have both? It is quite rational though, since this is a game of imperfect information, the men assume that there were other men who fucked without giving much effort, so if this woman doesn't agree to it, then it could be the case that you are categorized as a beta and thus it makes sense to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:42 AM
1

If it is private money I have no problem with it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:00 PM
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Yeah you should be able to access contraception, but it shouldn't be subsidized, if it is private corporations providing free contraception I have no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:59 PM
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I guess that is down to your occupation then, I don't believe 2-3x is relevant for all occupations: https://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/compare-states/california-vs-texas But yeah real estate on average is cheaper in Teaxs two folds I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:45 PM
0

And high taxes which is a thing that the left really likes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:36 PM
0

If that is the case then there is no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:35 PM
1

Venzeula is called "socialist" even though they have stores, markets, labor, capital, profit etc. If socialism/communism= poor capitalist country, why isn't somalia considered socialist, or tanzania? What ever you call it, it is much much more socialist than the US, so what the fuck are you still doing here whining, go to where your ideas are closet to be implemented, if you don't like Venzeula you can try North Korea then, tell them that you are a western deserter running from the evil capitali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:33 PM
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Ultimately, the real world doesn’t care about your opinion on this. The math has been done - it’s cheaper for all of these institutions to pay to prevent pregnancy than it is to pay for the pregnancy/childbirth itself That is your problem right there, all of these subsidies need to go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:25 PM
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I see you are either trolling or below 90 IQ, I say let nature do it's course with people like you, let all of you retards die out of starvation, because you are too incompetent to give something of value to society in order to receive something back. In the past it was much harder to survive, so idiots like yourself would be naturally weeded out by natural selection, since you clearly seem to be still alive we need to resort to the ways of the past and have less mercy towards degenerates and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:10 PM
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Go to Venezuela, hope all your dreams will come true, I think western societies most definitely need to pool all you degenerates together and subsidize a one way trip to your socialist shithole of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:57 PM
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What a leftist cesspool California is, no wonder lots of people are moving
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:13 PM
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access to contraceptives & abortions ect You have no right what's so ever to free or subsidized access to contraceptives and abortions, since when is this regarded as a basic human right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:01 PM
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Who gives a fuck, we shouldn't subsidize this nor should we subsidize single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:16 AM
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easy fuck escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:59 AM
3

If men's SMV were equal to their RMV then it would mean that each woman married to a man would of been indifferent to casually fuck him as well given that she doesn't have a problem with casual sex, do you believe that his adequately represents reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:57 AM
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And for men, SMV and RMV are nearly the same thing Don't believe there will be a single person here that agrees with this statement besides you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 12:22 AM
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Don't be ridiculous their RMV peaks at mid 30's because of dual mating, their SMV peaks at early to mid 20's most likely, although for men SMV is less important on average because women rate the average man as below average. It is similar to how poor people shouldn't really worry about inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:30 PM
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Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos Talk about a wasted potential, Bezos has lost billions in a divorce and is now fucking another 50 year old (although much better looking than the previous one, no doubt about it). What a disgrace, I can't fathom such a depravity what the fuck is wrong with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:08 PM
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this one was definitely worth it :) I agree fucking older fat sluts for revenge is totally acceptable in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 01:23 PM
1

There is also game theory. As a participant in the game, it makes sense to enter the equilibrium point of the game, irrespective of what other participants do. Your decision to enter the self-countering n-tuple is a zero-regret decision. If you are asked to reconsider your choice after you know what the other participants have done, you would still make the same decision. It is the same for the other participants. So, the equilibrium point will attract all participants. There must exist an equil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 01:10 PM
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I never before banged anyone above 30, but I made an exception there. Legendary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 12:59 PM
2

Define better off? women are free to make their own choice and that is the choice that they are making, which basically means that the majority of women believe that they are better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:48 PM
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lmao, no doubt about it that Japan exports their cultural tendencies towards pedophilia to the west, also others bizarre kinks like furriers, but on average men find 20 year old women most attractive I believe, or at least 18 plus
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 04:20 PM
1

Every national survey shows that men have more anyway. How is it possible for men to have more relationships than women on average, if every relationship involves one man and one woman? The amount of short term relations between men and women should be the same on average, but the distribution is very different. If you have 100 men and 100 women and one of the men sleeps with all the women and the rest sleep with none, both the men's and women's average partners count is the same which is 1 part…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 12:26 AM
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If both men and women would of had the same amount of short and long term relations then Tinder would of been way easier for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:31 PM
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I don't think in such terms, food taken from a dumpster is also free and accessible, but I would still rather pay for a good meal in a restaurant than dig for left overs in the dumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:30 PM
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45 year olds and up are often looking for fuckbuddies I hope I will never ever sleep with a woman who is older than 30, if I lose all sexual desire in my 60's it actually is quite possible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:13 AM
1

The imbalance in the OLD alone should support my theory over yours
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:04 AM
1

yeah marriage is a long term strategy, so 80% get married at least once, the question is how many women out of these 80% go from primarily short term mating to long term, it is a difficult question to answer because women can go in and out of short term relationships with men from the top 10% - 20% when they are young, the effects will be the same a dating pool imbalance between young men and women in the long term dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:49 AM
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You shouldn't strive for just being fine, you should be a man of principal and not reward a culture that undermines you, in a culture that supports opportunistic behavior in open you adopt opportunistic behaviors as well. So what you don't do in any circumstance is bailing out a soon to be wall hitting woman in her 30's, what you should do instead is either keep playing the field if you can or start paying for sex with young and attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:42 PM
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You will also be fine if at the age of 35 I will rob you out of 90% of your capital and savings, am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:32 PM
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If that is now the case then it disqualifies what I am saying, but it is still a question on quantities, how many women switch from a short term strategy to a long term strategy successfully do you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:29 PM
1

It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:26 PM
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There are 2 markets, the first is the short term market which is relevant for ages 18-28 from which women transition to the long term market which begins probably at 28 or maybe a bit earlier. If let's say 40% of the women are primarily in the short term market at the ages 18-28 and they share the top 10% of men among them, that leaves 90% of men chasing 60% of women in the long term monogamous market from the ages of 18 to 28, in such a scenario even if every man couples with every woman 30% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:29 PM
1

That is not the point, similarly to how you don't let others cheat you out of your possessions, you shouldn't let others cheat you out of your wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:18 PM
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don't be a dope, risk management aside, the current culture is the embodiment of wellbeing redistribution from long term partners to short term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:14 PM
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Porn, gaming, the advent of technology and the inequality in the dating market, the trend will continue until the west will become like Japan is today, they are about 2 decades ahead in the process. Consequences are a lasting economic depression at the least if nothing more serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:56 PM
15

Because fucking for free has very low barriers to competition, fucking for money on the other hand..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:34 AM
1

no pun intended
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:48 AM
3

Work associates for several years, each one with N count > 100, sum all of them together you get hundreds of samples
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:51 AM
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Yes through couple of TRP alpha friends, they pumped and dumped hundreds of women I assume, take your guess for how many out these hundreds this is not the first time something like that happens and how many of them will get married eventually and you will come to the conclusion that AF/BB is the lay of the land
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:54 PM
1

great job, indeed a work of art by yours truly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 09:47 PM
4

whereareallthegoodmen is entertaining, FDS is just sad and whiny
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 09:16 PM
5

Your upbringing doesn't sound contemporary to a modern western country, or at least not larger metro areas
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:27 PM
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from your link: What about the view that marriage causes greater health? Let us first look at the results for people who were already healthy (e.g., with a healthy BMI): Data showed marriage was not associated with significant changes in the health of healthier people. For instance, those with a healthy weight did not get healthier after marriage. Why? Perhaps marriage had less of an impact on healthier individuals because they were already quite healthy. So marriage mainly provided them with ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:23 PM
2

How do you live with yourself? You would have had to be FORCED into marriage, but you would expect a partner who always dreaming of prince charming? How is that fair or even logical? Why do you not be the change you wish to see in the world? I wouldn't date a man skank, either, I can follow that. But I would NEVER turn around and say "oh, well I'm not forced to marry, so now I can go slut it up!" Like, I'm not immune to judgment. I know it would be wrong for me to behave that way. I don't ever p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:20 AM
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men on average make more money than women as well. maybe women would want partners who made more than them if most men weren’t typically out-earning women? maybe the alimony thing wouldn’t be an issue if women made more money? This is not a question of who is out earning who, it is a question of whether there are uneven penalties and rewards for filing for a divorce, if one party has much more to win and the other much more to loose, then you have perverse incentives in play. at the end of the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 05:26 AM
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if the couple agreed that one spouse would be depending on the other, and then the spouse that made more money was going to leave the other homeless and destitute then that would be equivalent to that spouse getting punched with a hammer while the other is barely affected. the courts don’t think this is fair, which is why alimony is awarded. You are the one that is not providing the answer, I have addressed this: If you want a way for the less wealthy party to gain monetary compensation in the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:41 AM
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how is making sure that whichever spouse was dependent on the other isn’t left destitute in the wake of divorce penalizing the other spouse? I fail to see your logic, if one side get punched with a hammer in a divorce and the other gets a check vs both sides gets punched with a hammer then in what way does it increase the likelihood of one of the parties to remain destitute?If you want a way for the less wealthy party to gain monetary compensation in the event of a divorce then you need to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:44 AM
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and is it really courts being discriminatory, or is it really just that men tend to make more money than women and women tend to be the spouses that are financially dependent more often than men; because in cases where the woman is making significantly more and/or the man depends on her income, he is awarded the same thing a woman in his position would be awarded. the courts don’t just throw money at women for existing, they’re there to make sure the spouse that was dependent isn’t left entirely…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:16 AM
1

yep maybe that is the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:59 AM
2

I wouldn't personally do it, but it doesn't mean that I shouldn't be happy over a discriminatory law becoming less discriminatory and applied in a more equal manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:58 AM
0

was sure you are black for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:56 AM
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lol, what would fat women do without black men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:52 AM
1

To clarify, I am not asking what traits in a woman make her a good girlfriend/wife material (although I assume there is a lot of overlap there) but just, how does a good person who happens to be female conduct themselves fairly in relationships or life in general in your view? If I would of been forced to get married I would of gone with no dual mating, only dates men who are marriage potential, kind and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:50 AM
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It is not hypocritical, it is strategically viable, if you have a law that harms men and benefits women on average, and women don't find it to be problematic for decades now, then perhaps once they are the ones at the receiving end of these laws then something will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 02:42 AM
3

How is it hypocritical? if the majority of women believe that divorce rapes are bad then they need to support removing such legislations, otherwise some of them will get burned as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:11 AM
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Of course it is fine, it is their own game played against them, when you create perverse incentives in favor of one side, it is nice to see it flip from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:56 PM
1

Most normal people are fucking idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:53 PM
4

Very nice, reverse divorce rape
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:50 PM
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Because unlike men women are not usually retarded, they don't put their assets on the line, they put yours
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:49 PM
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Just because women don't target these men for sex doesn't mean they are less tolerated. If we removed men seeking sexual access from insecure women, the numbers of "tolerated women" would equalize with "tolerated men" I know this bc once the picture of the targeted femcel is revealed, that "tolerance" adjusts to her fuckability Femcels are bottom 10% of women, the amount of incels is much higher, also I don't understand your use of sexually predatory, women who seek to have sex with men are also…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:33 AM
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Not sure what to complain about here, I wish all of them were like that, also prices are extremely reasonable, most def would of fucked for 35$ or 50$ not sure where she places me in that range.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/20 01:05 AM
3

Thanks for confirming AF/BB so vividly in your post and comments
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:41 PM
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I don't believe in subsidizing bad behavior, also one could come to the conclusion that policing costs actually raise due to single mothers, because children from single parent households tend to assimilate more poorly to society. I don't believe in bailing out idiots, whether it is men or women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:40 PM
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If the men are stupid enough to cum in these women raw then they could be liable, I don't really give a fuck, as long as others are not paying for their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:52 PM
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Because they are a net tax burden on society, I wouldn't really give a fuck about single mothers otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:42 PM
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The asymmetry in the OLD is absolutely crazy, it's nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:59 PM
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It is impossible, the west will collapse on itself in the coming decades, it will be just as Japan's lost decades but much worse since at least for Japan there were other countries that were growing who they could export to. But before the demographic induced collapse there would probably be an economic collapse due to the increasing share of retarded leftwing idiots in the west, which is not all that bad considering that in Venezuela the amount of young attractive women selling their bodies for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:52 PM
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I mean, surely you've heard about how the Catholic church knowingly moved pedophile priests and nuns around instead of getting rid of them Yes pedo priests are a known issue by now, pedo imams and rabbis as well. Everything that is taken to it's extreme is probably very unhealthy, I don't believe extreme social liberalism had proven itself to be much better btw, it's evils are just better masked, people probably are happiest some where in between or maybe even with a light tilt towards religion …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:03 AM
1

That allowed for a pedo family member to abuse you? is that common in Christian communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:39 AM
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Holly shit, it sounds like some sort of a cult
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:31 AM
1

Really? I always thought you are Asian for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:26 AM
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I think a typical one for Asian women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:11 PM
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You must have a really really uncomplicated dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:06 PM
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HB10 are mythical, HB8 are Asians or Latinas with slim waist and large hips and pretty faces. I would say she is an 8 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=latin+women+jeans&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fpoplyft.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgalleries%2F12465-new%2F7huAMw3.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:44 PM
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And believe it or not, not every couple is miserable and thinking about divorce all the time. Well you sure as hell will contemplate whether to jump on some other man's cock when it is your assets on the line that is for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:37 PM
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Why should you disrespect women who choose to be sex workers, what have they done to you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:32 PM
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Hear hear, the more men and women like that the better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:29 PM
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That is not correct, men and women mix up the sexual market with the monogamous marriage market, women's market advantage disappears in the monogamous marriage market for most the choice is to settle (usually on physical appearance) or to stay single for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:19 PM
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Good for you husband if something goes off in the marriage, it is your assets that will be divided, smart play by him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:10 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:33 PM
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It is not about women, nor programmers, it is about quotas, which is another flavor of degeneracy coming from the left
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:30 PM
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It is far far from being imaginary, Asians and white men are discriminated against in Fortune 500 companies, it is a known fact by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:28 PM
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Yes that indeed could happen, but not sure that most men are convincing enough to pass as alphas, I think women just tend to settle and cheat on their betabux husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:55 PM
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most men are not alphas to begin with, so this theory is somewhat questionable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:07 PM
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I did counter: This has nothing to do with security or insecurity, this opportunistic behavior rewards a smaller segment of men in the short term dating market over the majority of men in the long term dating market. Do you understand why this statement is correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:36 PM
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so what is the solution? either find an ugly woman like yourself who wants you, or get used to being alone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:03 PM
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Who rated that tall blonde freak over the black chick, Asian and the black girl were the best looking, the fact that among women rating the Asian in the end and the fat one was almost in the top, just shows you how delusional women are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:48 PM
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You seem to be overwhelmed by the data that you yourself have provided for some reason, there is no contradiction here, obviously the men doing the complaining are the not the men doing the sharing, so where is the contradiction? Also it is not clear what is the nature of the shared relationships, some of them are FWB in which sharing of other partners is agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:59 PM
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My experience has been the opposite. Most 40+ bachelors I know tend to be depressed losers. And yes, there are stats that support this. The question is if they were forced to be bachelors or not, in the population of bachelors there are also the population of unsuccessful incels, the question is whether men who can get women are happier not being married
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 03:01 PM
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As a woman in a world increasingly requiring a 2 income household for middle income, how do men expect for women to prioritize our relationships when I do not feel confident that my boyfriend will be able to pay all of our bills? Leave him, I am not sure what the issue is here, long term incompatibility means that it is headed for a breakup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 02:58 PM
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good, it is a miracle that this sham is till going on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 11:16 PM
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If "80%" of women initiate divorce - don't you think it's important to know why not in particular, marriage is not a worthy prize at all considering these risks, no need to check anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 11:06 PM
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I get the general drift of your post, but the dating conditions for most men improve in their 30's instead of getting worse like women's do. The sense of anger of some of these men is well earned, it is astounding to me, that there are men that even want to get married in this day and age. The only men who should consider getting married, are men who have it worse in their 30's than in their 20's in my opinion, the rest were probably conned by the modern dating market conditions, and should only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:42 PM
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Completely false
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:49 PM
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I didn't say they have 0 value, I have said that they are no longer relevant, which means that they are no longer relevant in a romantic sense for any man who have the means to not sleep with a 40 or 50 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:05 AM
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You don’t think of 40 or 50-year-old woman that raises $1 million for a nonprofit every single year is a contributor? I do think of them as contributors in a financial sense, but they are not relevant in a romantic sense. You don’t think a 50-year-old woman that cares for her ailing parents is worth anything? Not in a romantic sense I think you were either young and arrogant or stupid, I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re just young. I am young but not very young, I valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:51 AM
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The amount of attractive women who are 40 is probably less than 5%, 40 year old women are no longer relevant for anything, their contributions to the tax payers base is very important though so good thing that they have solid careers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 03:11 AM
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If these numbers are large, then isn't the 'return to monogamy' that so many male PPDers toss about as something awesome and fair in fact a call for sexual slavery for a large % of women? Yes, in a society in which women don't need men to survive the % of women who would choose to get married should be lower, going back to living in a traditional society couldn't happen without a large scale social coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:25 PM
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Actually there are 4 markets give or take: the sex for sex market, the relationships market, the marriage market - resources for sex and family with a long binding contract, and the money for sex market. The first one behaves similarly to a market of an undeveloped African country, the last one behaves similarly to the regular market, the second is pseudo monogamous (women can still share a smaller pool of men if they have shorter span relationships and men just move from one woman to the next),…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 10:52 AM
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Because most men are pathetic, they devalue themselves to 0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:50 PM
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pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:40 PM
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But you are already talking about BB, we are talking about "high-betas" which are still betas, they just didn't have the internet back then to warn them that marriage is a shit deal to be avoided at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 04:46 PM
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It is very sad state of affairs when men are that desperate that they are willing to pay for nudes when they can have it for free on pornhub, in a normal world there would of been only one way for these women to earn money from men, and it sure as hell wouldn't been by selling nudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 04:42 PM
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Only for married men who suffer consequences because they refuse some post wall woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:24 PM
0

Right makes sense to me actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 09:44 PM
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First woman I see to confirm that women that don't have anything to lose will just ride the CC, it makes sense really, theoretically will you also be open to paying for sex once you get older?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 07:01 PM
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did you understand my comment? you realize that this is true for everything, lots of people have lots of opinions which often conflict, so it is incohesive to aggregate the opinions of multiple of people with conflicting ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 04:00 PM
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I'm a dude. After hitting 30 I've seen astronomical improvement in my dating life in all aspects. If you haven't magically become better looking or more charismatic I advise you to never get married. Actually I would advise against marriage in any case, but especially for men who see improvements in their dating life post their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:22 PM
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If people were just forward in what they want, instead of creating useless lists, then maybe guys wouldn't need to fake it till they make it to get into a relationship. Nice guys are synonyms for men who don't have enough to offer to women, so that they believe the being civil and considerate holds enough of a bargaining power when clearly it doesn't, they are simply misguided blue pilled orbiters, this has nothing to do with them not being forward, it is related to the fact they don't have what…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:12 AM
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Then we need to adjust our education system to explain to young women what are the consequences of having children out of wedlock
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:03 AM
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When these moms are imprisoned unless they work very long hours to feed their kids, only then I will find it acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:51 AM
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How about men don't have sex with us unless they are prepared for what it can mean? I have no problem with imprisoning deadbeat dads, but that should apply to deadbeat moms as well. In any case I didn't fuck any of these women without rubber and I don't see why I should pay for their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:32 AM
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Foster centers which would cost extra, possibly partially subsidized, the goal is not to save tax payers dollars at all expense, rather to create a huge deterrence for women engaging in degeneracy, these women should have miserable lives in order to deter others from following this path.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:24 AM
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Or maybe imprison them like they do for deadbeat dads, they should be forced to work very long hours in order to feed their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:15 AM
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My sympathy for idiots have ran out years ago, these idiots shouldn't be subsidized further to live in degenerate life styles, I would consider minimal payment if these mothers are working at least 12h a day, otherwise let them starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:50 AM
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Don't want welfare for single mothers men? Stop getting naive young women pregnant and abandoning them. Nah don't think so, if they really need money they will find a way to get it, fuck giving money to these degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:02 AM
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No I would say that it is impossible to describe a woman the doesn't suck to a bigger subset of men than just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 10:11 PM
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When you aggregate multiple requirements of different people together you quickly accumulate paradoxical requirements which can't be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 09:14 PM
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Besides what is typically thrown around like alimony, child support, etc. What benefits do women receive for choosing one man to settle down with? Lets assume a prenup is signed and a woman is NOT marrying to get a check. None, marriage is primarily for financial reasons and to raise children in a stable environment, men and women who don't need any of these shouldn't marry
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:29 AM
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There is no systemic solution. Because forcing women to fuck men they don't want isn't an option. We are headed towards an economic collapse due to the fact that the west will start dying off, if marriages rates are falling so is the long term cash flow from men's banking accounts into women's. This will create a new underclass in society that didn't used to exist before, a larger and larger group of below average IQ women who are unable to find a man due to the reasons that you have provided an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 12:42 AM
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I don't see a point in being with a 40 or 50 year old woman who is no longer attractive and with the added risk of a divorce hanging on your head. Marriage used to make sense because there was simply no other alternative of getting sex and because society sanctioned older bachelors for the most part. None of this exists today, and so marriage makes no sense to men who don't desire children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 10:37 PM
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Why are you peddling marriage for men as a default, marriage has a terrible risk adjusted return and should be avoided by any man who can live without ever having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 10:18 PM
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Women and men are free to do what they want, I agree, but you didn't ask whether men believe that women should be forced to do something, you have asked why men care so much and I have given you the answer. How do you suppose we fix the dual market problem? By explaining to bottom 90% men that they should never marry and focus their efforts on securing the best income possible since their ability to earn high income will determine the quantity and quality of sex they could purchase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 05:04 PM
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The problem is quite simple, there are dual markets, the short term is from about 18-28 and then it transitions to the long term. There is an unknown amount of women who at one time are at the short term market primarily and then they transition to the long term one, let's say it is 40% but it is problematic to gauge it and it is age dependent. At the period of time that these women are primarily in the short term market they share a small segment of the male population among themselves which fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:28 PM
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I don't understand why it is so difficult to understand what the core issue is. It is primarily related to the dual mating/dual markets phenomenon, if you are busy fucking one segment of the population from the ages of 18-28 while expecting resources from a different segment of the population post 30 then clearly there are winners and losers from this opportunistic behavior. So either society completely abandons the ways of the past and a certain segment of the population will fuck for free whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:02 PM
1

I am not sure if submissiveness by itself is attractive, femininity is attractive though, and for me delicate women that have somewhat of a bubbly personality are much more attractive than dominant women, I am not sure it means that these women are submissive by nature, being submissive is more linked to being passive for me, it is something different that makes these women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:03 AM
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"the economy" is not the stock market, but yes if you are lucky enough to be in the less than 50% of americans who are invested in the stock market, it's a good time. At what cost? Millions are in poverty, and will surely be seeing mass evictions and more families descend into poverty, which is a nearly impossible hole to climb out of, as this stimulus bill isn't going to be passed I agree, and you are willing to vote for a political party that withholds stimulus relief in order to help these pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:41 PM
1

Not that fun for Venezuela or North Korea
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:25 PM
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I am choosing a man who is far from perfect especially regarding the stupid shit he says on twitter, but none the less have a very positive track record in terms of the economy which is doing quite well even now with all the covid mess. He also had made a record progress in the middle east which no one had succeeded prior to him in 30 years. The first president to ever tackle China whose son didn't get unexplained millions from a Chinese corporations nor from Burisama. Does the fact that he says…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:19 PM
2

That is again playing with words, I am just explaining to you why communism around the world always ends in a total cluster fuck and why communes will never ever work on a large enough scale and are doomed from the get go. No rational actors will divide their income/capital equally while receiving unequal results, no matter how you choose to call it, or what are your opinions on it. Communism is a race to the bottom of the most productive members lowering their productivity to the point of an eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:07 PM
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What can I say, it is smart and I believe already happens without any movements, very attractive women tend to marry very rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:56 PM
2

You are just playing with words, why should a member of a commune invest in an equal capacity to another member when the outcome for him is not equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:30 PM
1

He is senile! I don't know how to put it more clearly for you, he belongs in a nursing home not at the most demanding office on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:28 PM
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Personally I don't find women at that age more attractive than at early 20's, but if something is legal by law then it is legal, if men can be drafted to kill at similar ages then women sure as hell are able to fuck at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:41 PM
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So where is the equality? why should the burdens be split equally while the outcome isn't? why strive for equal burden when the outcome is unequal, that is what I meant to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 11:34 AM
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btw I had a typo I meant 10% of the men have 80% of sex, while all men probably need to contribute an equal amount
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:46 AM
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I didn't say that sex is a resource, sex can be seen as a reward though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:41 AM
1

What is strange about it? how do you decide how to split the resources and work burden in a commune?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:29 AM
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I don't get hippies, why should love be free and the markets not? So let's say there is commune in which 10% of the men have 80% of the sex, and each men and women give all of their income equally to the commune, why is there an expectation of an equal amount of shared burden without the expectation of an equal amount of rewards?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 11:09 PM
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You do realize Biden is barely alive right? you are literally voting in a senile old man who doesn't know where he is when he wonders away from his basement by mistake. Trump is maybe a clown on Twitter, but at least he remembers that he is running for presidency instead of the senate, at least he remembers that Mike Pence is his vice president while Biden sometimes forgets Obama's name, he even managed to forget Mitt Romney's name and called him that Mormon guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:04 PM
1

dam Sonic I think you are my favorite swinger ever, I can see why it is going well for you in the swingers game
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:00 PM
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I thought you are a progressive spacechicken, it is not nice to shame other cultures, especially since your friends in Europe enjoy bringing such people to your countries, these are your future neighbors
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:18 PM
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you don't say, shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:46 PM
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most definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:52 AM
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I like it that you have put old as 30+, kudos it is very accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:35 AM
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Not enough for me to understand what do you mean exactly, what is missing there for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:22 AM
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WTF is not sexy at all in motion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:45 AM
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Don't believe the average slut has that amount of skill, sluts don't have a lot of incentives to improve, things come quite easily to them when they are young, I believe the fact that you are an aging slut had forced you to truly invest in order to keep up with the younger competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:41 AM
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lmao these caricatures always crack me up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:45 PM
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I would much prefer it if they would be cut or that people like yourself that don't believe in paying for that shit will find creative ways to not pay taxes, bottom line take all the money that you would otherwise funneled to a wife and a family and funnel them to young and attractive women instead, that is all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:31 PM
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Ohh then lucky for you, you would not have to deal with the decline of your country in the next few decades
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:04 PM
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It depends if she has hit puberty or not, if she has developed feminine features then probably yes, but what does it prove? if I will show you a 15 year old guy with muscles you could in theory be turned on as well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:01 PM
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permanently? or you are a student?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:54 PM
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Do you seriously believe that there is a sizable sub population of native swedes that commit rapes and violent assaults in even a remotely comparable rates as the migrants you are receiving annually?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:16 PM
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I would love to know your thoughts on how to make society more fair and equal opportunity for men. Nothing is really fair in this world, fairness is a Utopian concept, if you don't like how women are behaving then don't marry them, if you want sex and no women is willing to offer it for you for free then pay for it like you pay for any other service.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:09 PM
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I’ll build a country homestead for as many women as I can How about voting for a non degenerate party that doesn't support mass unrestricted migration into your country first?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:05 PM
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You have a point regarding the difficult to discern if the state of Africa and the middle east is due to the religion itself or low IQ, fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:46 PM
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Yes you can, if you want to pay every time you exit your house after dark, sure, how many young women will be able to afford private security?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:43 PM
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No I am saying that if you are not going in a company of men from your family or your male friends you are putting yourself at much greater risk to be gang raped, similar to the rapes in Tahrir Square or how women are treated in general in the middle east and Africa, that is what will happen to Sweden if it fails to assimilate the immigrants in a pace that is faster then they are able to form local ghettos with their own culture as it happens now at a massive rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:37 PM
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Sure you can, there are already women that are scared to go outside in the dark in Sweden and Germany in a couple of decades women going without male escorts will be sitting ducks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:26 PM
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That is why I have said it is a good thing, couple of decades and they will also beat the feminism out of you, Sweden will be the most conservative country in Europe in 30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:21 PM
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Good thing that you are mass importing them into your country then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:18 PM
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lmao nice one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:16 PM
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It's painful to watch the heath ledger looking dude fucking a land whale, it is probably staged because otherwise he should of felt shame by sinking so low, and the land whale not realizing that she was a pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:31 PM
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The big difference is felt by the lower classes, Trump is the first president in ages that have tried to revive US manufacturing and have placed tariffs on China. I agree that both the Republicans and Democrats are indistinguishable in their appetite for increasing the deficit. The biggest decision on the table with regards to both candidates is whether to go populist which would benefit mostly the lower classes or to go globalist which would mostly benefit the rich
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:23 PM
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Harris is a much worse version of Hillary, substantially dumber than Hillary and just as uncharismatic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:13 PM
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You are kind of over simplifying it no? Trump is a populist candidate and Biden is a globalist candidate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:11 PM
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it's basically blue pill on blue pill + Indians concerned about penis size. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:40 PM
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who is calling 17 year girls ruined exactly? “peak fertility years” By that men mean the universal truth that majority of 40 year old women look like shit compared to 20 year old women, how is that related to grooming?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:38 PM
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Who's closeted? Outside of places like reddit, most swingers are on the conservative side Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 03:20 PM
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This guy would fuck either way, this has nothing to do with politics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:36 AM
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It is common knowledge, ugly men and women are treated like shit pretty much universally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:33 AM
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Yep I agree with you 100%, did you mean to comment on the comment above?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:19 AM
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Don't know who you are talking about? the trads care, but I assume they want good looking virgins not ugly ones
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:17 AM
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Why should you support these Marxist grifters hijacking racial tensions in order to raise millions for the democrat party, defunding the police equals more innocent blacks killed, supporting a group that supports such policies is supporting more innocents getting gunned down in the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:28 AM
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Still I slept with the man who married me the day I met him. While one of my oldest friends a girl I grew up with, who went to the same church as me, who kept her promise ring on, is still single and has her wizard powers. Nobody is lining up to go on dates with her or marry her. And now all she has to try to choose from is the leftovers and even they don't want her! Men wanting a virgin is yet another male lie. Maybe you are just good looking and she isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:14 AM
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It is not anyone's fault, it is the choice of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:12 AM
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Sonic are you a closeted conservative swinger?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:10 AM
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do you mean AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:05 PM
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Look man this trad fantasy is over, this society is all about everyone for themselves, given that women are the way they are, and it not going to change, what are you planing to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:41 PM
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Right that is what I have said before it is not for your 20's this is for later in life, there are not a lot of options for men in their 30's either marriage or an alternative life style like this one, if you are still young just keep such options in mind when the time will be right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:30 PM
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Nothing else to say really, in countries or cities with higher standards of living in order to be successful with good looking women you either need to be very good looking or very very rich. In places in which the standards of living are lower, you could be very rich in relative terms to that place. So in Moscow the average salary is 1500$ in Minsk it is 490$, so you out earn them by x3 on average, which means that if you find a job in Moscow that pays 1500$ that will allow you to work from rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:07 PM
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I agree but that could be due to a higher variance, there are simply more intelligent men than women, no doubt about it, but there are also more retarded men than women, it is also quite apparent, so it wouldn't shock me that the average is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:16 PM
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He doesn't look particularly worse, also it is not a good example at all for what you were aiming for, a better one would be Leonardo DiCaprio
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:07 PM
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Definitely not, just pointing out your crazy standards that is all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:51 PM
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By taking a good looking guy who looks great in both photos?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:46 PM
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WTF??? except the eye defect the guy looks great on the left and the right, are you telling me that in the photo on the right if you forget the eye thing he doesn't look great?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:43 PM
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No I don't I think I am agreeing with you with regard to Moscow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:39 PM
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Higher variance I agree, but I think men and women have the same IQ on average, do you have a study that indicates that men have higher IQ on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:36 PM
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In your 20's there is only TRP, but later in life the goal is getting Moscow money but living or taking trips to cities with lower costs of living and using this advantage to fuck young and very attractive women, I am talking about your 30's, 40's and 50's, that is a much better alternative to being a beta provider for an aging woman in Moscow, but that is just my opinion here, in order to maximize your freedom and fun you will have in life, you need to give up marriage. In order for this to wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:59 PM
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He is also dumber than Joe, not sure how that is even possible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:32 PM
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Very interesting.. if you live in Moscow you probably have more money than the average Russian and that is what counts in the end of day, don't become a beta provider, just fuck and swap them, that is the end goal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:30 PM
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Asian women are hot, will need to relocate there in couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:05 PM
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No looks, no game, no money is a bad combo I am not going to lie, you need to have at least one of these 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:52 AM
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oh, you said STEM? Women are doing better then men in school and even closing the gap in the most male dominated fields like math since men stopped rigging the game in their favor. Men and women have the same IQ on average but men have a higher variance, meaning that there are both more retarded men than women and more brilliant men than women, there is no and never will be a way for women to out compete men on the higher end of the spectrum, the only way it is possible is through degenerate lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:42 AM
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Is there an official study on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:36 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:36 AM
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I keep on seeing women would rather be alone then be with someone who doesn’t give them “tingles”. That is a good thing, it means they wouldn't take you to the cleaners, the problem is with the ones who would settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:35 AM
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just another silly meme
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:13 AM
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Shouldn't you be against FDS? they hate lib feminists that screw around like you, they want you to lock your pussy for 3 months
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:55 AM
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lmao, is the retard in the middle supposed to be AOC? why is she yellow?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:52 AM
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you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:50 AM
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I understand what you are saying, I am not defending this behavior, just trying to explain it from what I have seen with some of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:34 AM
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I don't believe they are resentful towards you, it is more towards their own condition, it just spills over to you, but yeah sorry to be the bearer of bad news, what you describe is a situation in which a guy sleeps with you because he is horny and then post nut clarity hits and he just doesn't want anything to do with you from that point on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:24 AM
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I don't believe it is sadism, I think that more often than not it is resent to their own condition of having to chase validation and not getting what they feel they deserve, but there could be several reasons here, I just happen to know some men who have shown resent to women they slept with who they considered beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:08 AM
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Not sure how conscious it is, but yeah I believe more often than not it is conscious
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:02 AM
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I don't get why men treat women badly after sex. Validation seeking men often go for women they consider beneath them because it is easier and more consistent, they resent the fact that they can't fuck the women they truly want to with ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:59 AM
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How do you keep your sanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:52 PM
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A woman is not suppose to do anything, but if your value on the long term market is higher than in the short term market while nothing about you has changed in terms of your looks, it points to the fact that women has just started to rank you differently due to the transition to the long term market. If that is the case and it is a general behavior and not just an isolated behavior which I believe it is, then it means that your dating pool have been artificially restricted for about a decade to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 04:50 PM
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Peoples tastes, preferences, and priorities on EVERYTHING change as they get older. Yep in short dual mating. Men's priorities for women also changes as they approach their late 20s/30s, is it the same thing for them or do you only apply negative terminology when women do it? I have never said that men don't do something similar, but women don't seem to penalize men for it, probably because there is a high overlap between the men women find attractive and such opportunistic behavior, or because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 03:24 PM
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It is under my own definition lol, I don't care if there is a time lag between the two activities, if a woman chooses to date one type of men in the short term market and another in the long term market, I define it as dual mating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 03:22 PM
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Just that you project men's strategies such as buying flashy cars onto their actual character, while in reality you should project it onto women, a men buying flashy car because it works doesn't say anything about the man except for the fact that this works on women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:16 PM
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I care about money in the sense that he should be capable of supporting himself, but growing up with nothing means I kinda detest materialistic ppl. I think men who drive flashy cars are trying to make up for a lack of personality or confidence. Men who wear expensive brands turn me off because it just means you have nothing about you. Men's strategies reflect more on women than on men, the above is saying that you detest a lot of women because they are attracted to these things. In a similar fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:09 PM
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don't plan on getting divorced This is not how it works.. well if you have the inheritance protected then I guess there isn't any catastrophic amount of risk for you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:04 PM
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Interesting position to be in for woman, how much do you stand to loose in a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 10:43 AM
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It is not an accident, dual mating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 10:38 AM
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What about escorts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 10:58 PM
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Yeah you are correct about that one actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 02:16 PM
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It is not about being owed, it is about opportunism, when society grows more and more opportunistic, so does the decisions of each individual within it, the end state of which will probably be men buying short term sex from young and attractive women and freezing out older women, so men marrying gold diggers isn't rational at all, any long term contract with a woman is basically irrational, only short term ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:21 PM
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spot on man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:16 PM
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marriedredpill sounds like a sad sad place, serves these idiots right for giving women access to their resources long term
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:23 AM
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It is a general problem in society to mask insecurity and mental issues with the lack of sex, it is clear as day that incels don't lack sex because they don't want to use escorts, they lack validation and that can't be bought
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:33 PM
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Basically risk is everything when it comes to a shitty contract such as marriage. The main problem with high n-count women is they are in a sort of a sexual bubble, the day to day reality is much more boring than the life they got accustomed to, questions arise if they would be able to cope with married life at all, these question exist to a less extent with low n-count women, it is more obvious that they are not in any bubble and that they would be able to adjust just fine. This doesn't apply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:13 PM
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Sluts are women who either enjoy casual sex and have low aversion to risk, or are not secure enough in themselves that they believe they need to offer sex almost immediately to hook men, then these men sense that something is off with these women and do a quick pump and dump, which causes these women to start racking notches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 08:41 PM
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Western society is imploding fast but the solution is definitely not “lets all be johns and prostitutes”. There is only solution, not for men like of course that are already out of the system, I am talking about young men, there are no solutions apart from tight sexual markets, the solution is in the hand of women, and women seem to be fine with the way things are for decades, so there will be no way out, these culture will implode as more and more men and also women exit the system each one for…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 10:58 AM
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Well that’s not what society or marriage is about. Marriage is not about sex providers and resource providers marriage is about controlling sex for social stability. Ohh it is about controlling sex now is it? and who has controlled your sex exactly up until you are in your 30's about to hit the wall? How stupid do you think men are? I mean they have been pathetic for a couple of decades now, so I can't really blame you for trying to keep this racket going, but I think you have started to realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:46 AM
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Stop lying the patriarchy by far and large benefits men by ensuring them a mate without patriarchy and all that sexual policing of women most men wouldn’t mate at all. The fact that it’s not a system that can provide absolute benefit to men at the absolute expense of women does not disprove what I said. Of course in order to ensure as many men a mate as is possible all men will have to control themselves and settle with their mate. (Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s wife). We live in a society…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:02 AM
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The purpose of marriage as it is practiced today is to provide security for women whose value is currently in a free fall or would be in a couple of years, this is also the time frame in which women will want to have children. The full cycle starts from the short term market, in which women are free to fuck from a buffet of their choice practically, which gradually transitions to the long term market in which women have nearly churned all of their value minus a buffer they feel they need in orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:19 PM
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There are no best bets here, if you feel that your value on the long term market is higher than it was in the short term market, then my strong advise would be to stop what you are doing ASAP never get married and find alternative means of acquiring sex, marriage should be only for men who believe that their value in the short term market was equal or lower than their value in the long term market, and even then it would probably not be advisable as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:55 PM
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Correct, it is a clear cut sign for you to never ever get married
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:16 PM
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By marriage I mean a long term investment in women of any kind especially when kids are involved, not the ceremony
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:12 PM
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A huge amount of men marrying women today are basically one step removed from being full fledged cucks, it has been true for decades now, but these idiots are disappearing now with the younger generations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:03 PM
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It isn't about savings, it is about parsing men's true intentions, are they in the sex market or are they in the validation market, there are key differences between the two, if most of these men are after validation, then I am not sure that gaining it through casual sex is the healthiest way to achieve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:55 PM
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I don't use escorts in the US, I usually meet regular women in countries in which every second or third girl can be pulled easily with or even without money, I prefer to take the shortest path possible and start paying so that I can have multiple young and very attractive women who I can swap when I like, I don't really care if deep down inside they are doing this for the money, they show me an excellent time, and the ones that don't don't tend to stay too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:52 PM
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Yeah we have talked about it before, you are currently with your gf but she is still in her 40's, which is still very young considering that you are 56, but I would still prefer young women in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:47 PM
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These ones are being milked by the fetish workers, they are not available to be married when you are post wall like the boomers and gen-x were
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:45 PM
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If you are an attractive guy, and having sex with attractive women comes easily to you then go ahead and do that, but eventually it will dry up in your 40's if not in your late 30's, you need to be thinking long term game here, and probably the most critical piece of advise here is to not get married, if you are able to use TRP and still pull in your 40's and 50's then kudos to you, otherwise be prepared to start paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:46 PM
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lol, yeah everyone understands what has happened and then it's case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:05 PM
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Nothing nihilist about it, be the best version of yourself in terms of what you are looking to achieve. But really understand yourself instead of flowing with the culture, what do you really want in life? do you want to feel accepted? do you want to feel manly? or do you want to fulfill your sexual desires with women? It is not apparent to me that all 3 should be resolved through women, perhaps the first two should be working on yourself first and developing inner self worth, all I can tell you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:47 PM
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Ok so bottom line you would go with a 6 that you have "hunted" rather than an 8 that you pay for, so the main objective of getting laid for you is not your biological imperative to have sex with attractive women, it is rather the extra validation you score from feeling like a "hunter". So why are you selling this story to him of an attractive woman going to him in a bar, why don't you tell reality as you perceive it, it is not the mere fact that he will get to sleep with an attractive woman, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 05:21 PM
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Different times I suppose, I wouldn't advise anyone to try and find a wife in these remote countries, there are some stories about naive incel types that travel to SEA to find a wife and later they get murdered because they had stupidly purchased an asset under the name of the wife, usually it is a story of some 40 year old white dude that somehow managed to drown in the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:40 PM
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Men would perform even worse at all levels of education and employment than they are now, making more room for women to reach the higher echelons of society. You do realize that the majority of women don't give a fuck about advancing to the highest echelons of society right? they want to lock down a man who has reached that. It is a huge difference in terms of outcome, the more dysfunctional men there are, the more women are pumped and dumped and accept shit treatment, that is because the same a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:30 PM
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I am not in a Caribbean country currently, but that is most definitely an option for the future. If you have an annual 500k salary you can do it comfortably even in the US, in these other countries that would just an insane amount of wealth, but the point is not to marry local women at these locations though, when you give up marriage you give marriage, there is no magic here that because you are abroad you won't get fleeced by local women, the objective is not to find "love", if love is what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:19 PM
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On the flip side I can present you the same argument backwards regarding TRP, if I were to tell you that for the same amount of money you are spending on finding casual sex when accounting for all your expenses on alchohol/parties/logistics/failed attempts you could of had sex with a much better looking woman for money, would you have done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:08 PM
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I don't want to disclose that, but why does the specific country matter to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:37 PM
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Yes most definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:28 PM
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RP definitely works, but frankly it always sounded to me like too much work for the return, if sex is what you want from women, why just not pay for it? the key thing i wanted to draw attention to and discuss is the recapitulation that GAME and APPROACHING are the core of the red pill after self improving Self improving towards what goal? again if having sex with lots of attractive women is your goal, then you shouldn't waste your time, your main objectives are to secure the highest amount of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 02:13 PM
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To be fair, your circumstances are unique, RP men never focus on women like yourself because they consider you to be a minority in the modern culture. For you personally a failure of a relationship is to blamed mostly on the current culture and not on you, so if you met someone when you are 19 and you live in a very liberal urban city, the chances are quite substantial that this will not work, because men are pushed culturally to engage in casual sex and at that age they will develop FOMO. As yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 12:25 PM
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In that case, stay safe man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:40 AM
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Doing your best when you are young, and switching to escorts/sugar babies instead of marrying when you are older is I believe the best of both worlds
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:36 AM
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Ohh good another one trying to mine for cucks, the problem for you women is that you have ran out of cucks since boomers and gen-x are either married or divorce raped, and the young men that are left are increasingly red pilled or black pilled. The problem is what kind of idiot would invest his resources long term into a woman who has given another man a better value either by having sex acts she is not having with you, or by the virtue of her being younger and better looking, while he had to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 11:09 AM
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I agree, men are raised to be one step removed from cucks by the modern culture, I blame the faggots that came before us from the boomers and gen-x generations, these fucking cucks had allowed an almost decade or even longer of unrestricted access to the top tier sex market for women while men are left to devalue them selves to 0 basically. WTF do they think that men will do, be a literal fucking cuck and watch his future wife be fucked by a buffet of her choice for a decade churning her value a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:51 AM
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If men are stupid enough to get married in this day and age, then it is on them, I can't help the men that can't be helped. Men literally invented patriarchy to control women and keep them from sleeping around casually, a whole entire structural system based around this very concept in practically every place inhabited by humans on earth but you can’t figure out why most men don’t just sleep with hookers for the rest of their life??? The patriarchy also has worked against men by establishing rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:36 AM
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In the end that is a rational response, I believe the desire not to invest resources in opportunistic women is deeply embedded into our genes, there is simply nothing I feel stronger about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:24 AM
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Sounds like you had quite a good outcome to me. if no one is compromising, how does anyone get anything at all other than sex? People are still compromising, but increasingly less and less, the west will start dying out in a couple of decades
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:25 AM
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I understand where you are coming from, but he is kind of right, that is not where the culture is at today, the old ways are truly dead and from this point it is everyone looking for their own best interests, I am for my part am fully planning to exploit this culture to it's fullest, that is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 03:59 AM
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Anyways I’ve always truly believed that “mansplaining” was just more SJW feminist bs Exactly it is a way to shut down debate, usually by women on the left who can't defend their ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:57 PM
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Yes, aka high SMV women, aka the women most men want to keep fucking throughout their lives. What is your plan for your 30's and 40's, are you planning to get married eventually?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:14 PM
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Why don't you go home, you don't know what you are talking about clearly, while I do, the facts that I am saying about regular women from these countries willing to have sex for money is 100% the reality whether you like it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:59 PM
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You giving money to a sex slave in some backwards country isn’t going to fill her pockets rather her pimps. Leave it to me to find independent women that want to fuck for money, middlemen is not my deal, I don't go to brothels and the likes, I deal with independent women only, I also believe that it is best that my money will go directly to these women. In this day and age it is very easy to find women willing to do so, you can even log in to Tinder and most women will agree, almost any woman fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:50 PM
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lol you are being disingenuous here, you have tried to smear me yet that had backfired on you, I have never said that I am willing to give charity to these women, what I am saying is that I offer them extra opportunities that you want to deny them because of puritan stances, tell me this, why should someone living her lofty life in Germany decide that a less privileged woman should now pick leaves 20h a day instead of earning x10 the amount in a much easier way? who are you to deny these women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:35 PM
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For some it is true for others not that much, depends on the man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:20 PM
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But you don’t give a shit about the poor barely legal drugged up woman trying to survive. If I don't give a shit you most definitely don't give a shit either, the difference between us, it that I allow these women to have better alternatives than currently present for them, and you want to take these opportunities away from them, imposing on them your privileged and puritan western values. The way I know that I offer better alternatives for these women, is that they still have all the opportunit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:17 PM
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For you it is ok, you are having way more fun than the average married man, but an average married man will be shackled by such a limitation compared to a man that doesn't have such a limitation. Accounting for the risks that married men face it's already irrational to go that route in the first place, but the average Joe doesn't really have a choice, he is frozen out of the sex market and this is more or less the only way for him, my point is to open men's mind to other alternative lifestyles t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:10 PM
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The entitlement is entirely on your side, you are actively trying to harm the income of women who are far less privileged than you are, and have the shame of claiming the moral high ground at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:00 PM
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Its disgusting personally and just the most surreal thing I've seen but these people would enter said playroom at open and usually leave at close. Its almost impressive. lol, sorry dude, I know a guy about your age, below average looking and low game and still fucking models daily, if you don't have an inherent need for validation money will beat anything else for 99% of men, if you must know that the woman is there because she finds you irresistible, then yes most definitely your life style bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:41 PM
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It is your choice, do what ever suits you the most
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:35 PM
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Look man you know best, I just can tell you that for me personally female validation doesn't play any role. If for instance i have a choice to sleep with a 40 year old who finds me really attractive and says that I am the best she ever had and how she wants only me, vs a hot 20 year old who is clear that I am just a means for her to get east money, I would take the 20 year old every time, why? because female validation is meaningless to me, I fuck women because I enjoy it, not because it gets me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:58 PM
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I agree that is why most men should pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:55 PM
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Due for the millionth of time I don't give a fuck if a woman likes me or not, if she plays the game for an hour and sexually satisfies me then that is what I am after. I want to have sex with woman that I find attractive irregardless what they truly think about me, why do you find that so hard to grasp is beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:54 PM
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Also I don't understand the preoccupation with this in the west, would it be better if I would BS women into sex like 90% of men are doing now? I don't want to act disingenuous and con women, and also I am not in the top 5% of looks/charisma so I can just go ahead and tell women straight up that I just want sex, such problems usually have very simple solution, if women on average are not willing to engage on such terms with me, then I need to raise their compensation to the point that it is fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:37 AM
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Lucky in relative terms, you are looking at it from a privileged western point of view, if you were living in such conditions, then yes absolutely you would of jumped at this opportunity to make easy money. I bet their flaming at the mouth to fuck some pompous sex entitled sex tourist For that relatively very high pay and the fact that I am not some old and disgusting man, then yes they absolutely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:28 AM
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Yeah it doesn't apply to all women, but it applies to more than few
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:12 AM
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Lots and lots of testimonials online are by women who say that they really don't understand themselves, they are finally dating a man who treats them well after a long time, but the passion is just not there. That is because women are not biologically inclined to be attracted to betas, or in order to find a man who treats them well they had to settle for physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:08 AM
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Swinging is an interesting option, but I assume you are better looking than the average for your age, I would find it hard to believe that the average 50 year old Joe will find himself in these circles
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:03 AM
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You misunderstood me they are privileged because the pay is excellent in relative term, the fact that I am not an ugly old man just means that they don't even have to suffer really, in all likelihood they would of slept with me if I wanted to go through the conventional route as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:01 AM
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Women do not vet for character, and if they did, they would have a lot less problems in their relationships. They have no choice, the ones that give them the tingles more likely than not fuck them over, the ones that are stable and will treat them well more often than not will not give them the tingles, they are between a rock and a hard place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:14 AM
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It is much easier than you believe, in some countries you will get permanent residency if you invest about 150k in the country, which could be purchasing a real estate property.If you don't want to do so, there are always ways to acquire various types of visas. I'm not sure if a company would be willing to give out a good job to a person residing in a part of the world with the hassle of different time zones and international laws when they can find someone qualified who's staying in the country…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:34 AM
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The difference is that the one night stand actually picked you Dude you are not getting it, validation is meaningless to men who have inner self worth, if you want casual sex in order to receive validation then therapy is probably a better approach fro you. If having sex with attractive women doesn't offer enough value for you, then this is not for you indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:15 AM
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Have you considered the costs of family/wife/children that you are saving?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:13 AM
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These are US prices, rubbers are a bummer but hopefully you are using them for casual sex encounters as well, so i don't see an argument there really. Fucking a random stranger is also equivalent to one night stands, so I don't see an argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:38 AM
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That is what I mean, paying for escorts is both favorable to casual sex and most definitely favorable to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:31 AM
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If you are in dire need of validation from women then I understand why this is the first thing that pops to your mind, but you need to understand that there are men out there who don't give a fuck about validation, so no paying for sex is paying for sex, not validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:25 AM
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ohh ok, in any case you are content with your gf which is the important part here, what I am not really sure of is how content the average 40 year old married man is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:54 AM
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If you mean casual sex without paying for it, then I believe that you would either have to heavily compromise on the quantity or the quality or even both
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:46 AM
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Your are a 56 year old lawyer, I am sure you have made your fair share, I don't believe you will ever need a woman's income for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:42 AM
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Well that is good, because I am not raping anyone, so your wish is already the reality, unless you choose to misuse the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:37 AM
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Sounds great for your age, but I am quite certain that your potential is leaps beyond that taking into account your profession, but if you are happy then by all means, that is the bottom line here, men should maximize their happiness by the best strategy which suits their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:27 AM
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And you are continuing to take the moral high ground living in the comforts of your privilege, you are ok with basically putting women to more risk just as long as it conforms with your western privileged norms of what is and isn't ok. Who are you exactly to mandate to these women what they can and can not do with their body??? it is beyond absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:23 AM
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But by saying that you most then acknowledge that what I am saying is correct, your argument is that is wrong to exchange sex for money with women who are desperate for survival, and thus leave these women at the current risk they are which could be a medical risk for them, for their family or for their children, just for the sake that it is wrong to exchange sex for money. You need to realize that your logic is a logic of a privileged western woman, you don't share the hardships that these wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:12 AM
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Ok I understand
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:07 AM
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Several but I know someone who is probably in the 100's now, what exactly do you wish to know about the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:05 AM
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Ok got you, if you are sexually attracted to 50 year old women, then by all means go ahead, if on the other hand a man is mostly attracted to young women then I don't see better alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:04 AM
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children don't qualify in our society as having the agency to consent, hence we call that rape. An adult woman is able to consent, hence we don't call it rape. when one person is desperate for survival they cannot give meaningful consent That is a profoundly cruel statement if you think about it, let's say that you are correct and such women are desperate for survival, so your argument is that it is morally right to just let them or a member of their family to die or become very ill, and morally…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:01 AM
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Ohh in that case I totally agree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:45 AM
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So you are saying that you would like to still have sex with multiple women, but you find it hard in your age, yet you are not willing to pay for it. Did I understand you correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:44 AM
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I feel that by 35, I will actually have the option of powering through and going without dealing with women, without it putting me in the blink of depression. I can't wait for this day. Dam man that is a bleak view, is this a financial situation issue or just in general you are sick of women? let's say I told that you could have sex with attractive women daily or at which interval you decide and pay about 10% of your income, would you have done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:41 AM
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I agree, hence they should pay, basically I am a proponent of if game comes easy to you then spin plates, once it becomes hard switch to paying for it, but what ever you do don't ever marry and have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:36 AM
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A mutual exchange is not rape, rape is rape, rape is an act of forcing a woman to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:31 AM
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If men travel to such countries to sleep with children, then obviously these pedos deserve retribution, but comparing that with Asian or Slavic countries is day and night, you could easily find women who are independent and you should deal with such women only, no middleman should be involved, it is between you and her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:29 AM
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For me sex with attractive women is the top priority that is why I want to get as much of it as possible in the most optimal way, that is why I believe in paying once you are in your 30's and almost definitely when you are in your 40's. Your sex drive will still be alive and well by your 40's don't worry about it, it might not be alive for 40 year old women, but definitely would for 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:24 AM
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Not sure what you are on about, but the getting in on it is not that complicated once you have your shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:22 AM
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I feel your pain and understand your frustration, if I would of been in that tough spot I would of done my best to somehow immigrate to the US or another western country, start earning $ and pretty much doing the same thing. Alternatively maybe profiting from that growing business by catering to these fat middle aged men by taking a coupon and then using your newly acquired western income to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:17 AM
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You do realize that these women earn the equivalent of about the top 5% in their country on an hourly basis, and also I am far from being ugly, I would say that I am even above average and also in my 30's, if they could of they would of had sex with me every single day, because not only that it is very lucrative for them to do so, it sure as hell beats picking leaves for 20h a day in the heat for 1/10 the salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:07 AM
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WTF lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:59 PM
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simps should off them selves, escorts only. but I know for a fact that simping is ALWAYS a big no because sex is FREE. Not for everyone maybe but it is still not something anyone should ever pay for. You almost always pay, just less directly, when you start to factor in such costs as a flat in the center so that you have good logistics, paying for drinks/clubs, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:56 PM
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I can't argue with that for each his own, but personally I know a few men who are in their 30's and were really successful practicing TRP, both of them decided to settle down because their returns started to dwindle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:53 PM
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Yep give it couple of years, the trend will explode, I am sure of it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:48 PM
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If it is in fact the case that she needs the money in order to survive, then what I am doing is causing much more benefit than harm, so this even reinforces my case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:46 PM
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Of course it is my opinion just as yours is your opinion You are looking at it backwards, I wouldn't be in a situation in which I could interact with such a woman, unless we would share such a common interest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:43 PM
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In a very short summary, for men who are 30's and above paying for sex > casual sex > marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:41 PM
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Smart man, your mindset is definitely in the right place
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:38 PM
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There is the question of your success rate and average quality, what types of women would you be able to pull in your 40's and how consistently, I think for most men paying would be much more cost effective, even before your 40's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:37 PM
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Selling organs is a medical procedure that could cause serious bodily harm if gone wrong, having sex with someone is practiced every day by consenting adults and as such doesn't pose more risks than a man and a woman deciding to have a casual encounter, if one is allowed the other should be as well. As for taken advantage of poor people, have you considered that they could feed their family or buy drugs with this money??? not everyone have first world problems you know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:33 PM
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Ok but is casual sex better than paying for sex when you are in your 30's and 40's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:27 PM
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Yeah you are correct, I meant casual sex as it is practiced in the society currently using OLD apps, I don't really consider paying for sex as casual sex that is what I meant, but you have a point I need to word it better
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:25 PM
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Why would that be wrong? if two parties agree to a transaction then such a transaction is mutually beneficial to both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:23 PM
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Why cheap though? it is redistribution from wife/family to young and attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:20 PM
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Textbook example
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/20 04:14 PM
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I’m confused. That is happening right now. Men are competing with other men. Correct but there is a ridiculous focus on competing in the sex market as well in order to have casual sex and receive validation. This needs to flip priorities, sex is to be attained at the most cost effective way, which varies for each individual, working on receiving validation and your self esteem is a different issue but the shift is perhaps mental, men's primary objective in life is to attain power which translate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 11:37 PM
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Would giving these men easy access to sex fix the problem? Yes it would, it would probably make relationships better for everyone too...just like what was done in the past I agree and I have the following in mind, men and women will become market competitors for the most part, men will go back to competing in the regular market with other men and with women primarily, their reward (money) will be used in order to acquire sex from young, fertile and attractive women, and that will replace the non…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:22 PM
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WTF and she thinks someone like that would bite for a 37 woman?? I think the Nigerian relatives scam would be more successful for here than this
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/20 05:28 PM
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However as I said in other comments I think the biggest whiners are middle aged divorced guys. There is no question that the biggest losers are divorced men, I would argue that married men are not that far behind though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:22 PM
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Well I wasn't really literal, more on lines of suckers are born every minute, and idiots usually get what they have bargained for in due time, and let's just say that a surgeon who is in the top 1% of income marrying a stripper is beyond moronic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:02 PM
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My slutty high school friend who stripped her way through college just married the plastic surgeon that made her tits What a fucking tool, I hope she bleeds him dry
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:39 PM
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It is inevitable, TRP had worked pretty well in the pre OLD period, it still works post the OLD period but it takes more effort and there were new ideas coming to the mix, from all the talk of having casual sex I haven't seen a decent explanation of why not pursuing it in the most cost effective way. So let's maybe begin with what are you trying to solve for the majority of men? if your goal is for majority of men to be having casual sex through practicing TRP then I would of said that at the le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 12:27 PM
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The wall is actually much closer to 40, at 30 women still look reasonably well, there does seem to be an exponential decline in the 40's, at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 12:34 AM
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No surprises here, it is definitely the case that unattractive men and women that I have known have been treated much less favorably, some haven't been that affected by it, it is just that their success rate was lower and stories of failed romantic attempts were abundant, others were most definitely affected psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 11:13 PM
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Let just agree that the freedom to have sex is more often than not used to have sex with men women desire, and as a rule of thumb women desire attractive and charismatic men, and these are what i mean by top tier men. You seem to want to cling onto edge cases to disprove what I am saying, which is somewhat odd to me, yes obviously there are cases in which women sleep with average and below average men, I don't believe these constitutes the norm though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:34 PM
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So you believe that women choose to have casual sex with average and below average men then? If you do believe that it is highly contradictory to what Tinder and other OLD apps suggest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:02 PM
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Ok so now we are back at the start at the trade off of gaining (a) over the costs of increased (c) and (d), so is it worth it to you or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:44 PM
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We gain Freedom, choices. You don't gain neither freedom nor choices, I am not telling you to compare a conservatives society from 1920's to the one we have, I am telling you to imagine all women adopting FDS strategies of sex after 3 months only, compared to what we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:34 PM
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Perhaps but we are talking about two different things here, I am not saying that marriage is not important I am saying that both in sexually liberal and sexually conservative societies people eventually get married. I am not looking for the similarities between them, I am looking for differences in order to understand what women gain from being more sexually liberal and what do they loose, and whether this is beneficial to the average woman or not, and if not how come the society keeps moving in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 03:24 PM
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By saying you enjoy dating I assume you mean you are enjoying riding the carousel, otherwise dating is merely a transitional phase into a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 11:36 PM
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Women aren’t willing to trade off c and d for a Not by willing choice they don't, but it is implicit in the fact that our society is overall much more sexually liberal than ever before, I am not saying that every individual woman is somehow deciding to trade these things, I am saying that the given culture forces women to take more risks in the types of c and d than a sexually conservative one. Women on the whole in the past and present control how sexually liberated the culture is, by either mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:26 PM
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There was no notification from a specific mod, otherwise I wouldn't ask, in any case whiny is an extremely poor representation of who I am as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:44 PM
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You are reacting to way too many things concurrently, scenario f doesn't matter because I am looking at benefits vs costs, scenario f includes casual encounters which neither harm nor give too much pleasure to men and women and thus I discard them. Staying together without marriage and with marriage doesn't interest me because both in a sexually liberal and non sexually liberal society I assume that men and women eventually settle down, so I am not that interested in these cases as well. I am in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:31 PM
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Why are you reducing everything to personal insults instead of opening your mind and trying to understand other people's perspectives? You need to be more open minded with ideas that seem totally foreign to you since there are plenty of contrarians in this world who had major insights into things that later were accepted as mainstream knowledge. I am not saying that it is true to myself, just that in general you should approach ideas that seem bizarre to you at first in a more open minded way, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:59 PM
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I beg to differ I think I have great social skills, also I don't believe I am whiny at all, when you close people's posts usually a reason should be given, here no reason was given and the post was mostly civil, hence I asked a legitimate question. When someone else who didn't close the post have volunteered an answer veiled as an insult she had received a response which matched her comment, I don't see anything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:21 PM
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I am sorry I was disrespectful before and have used the word degenerates, I should have never used that word. Here is what I have meant to say: The problem is for people like yourself intelligent posts seem like autism, but I don't see the point of reducing the level of discussion to your mental capacity view of the world, why can't other men and women with higher different mental capacities views also have discussions on topics in PPD like they were having in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 03:11 AM
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There is nothing off topic about the post, I can't explain the post it was already explained before it was removed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:47 AM
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Why was my post removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:23 AM
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yeah where i don't agree is that it's a 0 sum game Let's just say that in today's society the gains in sexual freedom had costs for women from group (a), the problem is caused by the fact that men on average have been culturally accustomed to have sex after several dates for instance, this usually is far too soon for women from group (a) so their dating pool has been reduced in comparison to a more sexually conservative society. If these women don't wish to accept a reduction of the dating pool …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:17 AM
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The characteristics of type (a) might not be perfect fit I agree, I am just interested in the distribution of women who benefit from the current dating market vs the ones that not and would like a tighter sexual market. I'm generally sexually invisible to men who can attract a revolving conga line of women- that doesn't mean the women who can ride them are my enemy or somehow pitted against me. You can't take away what was never yours in the first place- all women suddenly becoming prudes doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:06 AM
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I am not sure what you are talking about, maybe you meant to respond to the comment above me, I am stating a simple fact that the dating pool that women have is inflated upwards due to the amount of men who will have sex with a woman but will not offer commitment. Hence a women's dating pool will never indicate her actual pool of men who genuinely are looking for commitment which then requires women to thoroughly vet these men when she is looking to get married, which to some women will lead to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:46 AM
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I agree the premise is that the majority of women are benefiting from the current market conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:46 AM
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I am sorry I don't believe you posses the needed mental aptitude to continue this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:36 AM
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So you don't agree with the premise at all? So in your mind the quite typical complaint that we can find in subs that are dedicated to women such as FDS, that men lead women on and enter relationships under false pretenses, which causes a high degree of distrust for these women of the majority of men, are just lies pushed on by incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:30 AM
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How did you come to that conclusion? my purpose is to understand the distribution of women between type a and b that is all, no judgement is passed any where in the post itself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:14 AM
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Yeah you have a point, the characteristics are not perfect, personally I am interesting in the distribution of women who benefit from current dating market conditions vs the ones that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:07 AM
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Ok so if you prefer the way society is now currently, then for my purposes I would classify you as (b), (a) is reserved for women who would benefit from a tight sexual market, it sounds like the way things are now is actually beneficiary to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 01:03 AM
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How is my perspective related to that, why don't you point me to something that I have said specifically in the post that you disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:56 AM
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I don't think radfems have a male dating pool then, they can't stand conservative men and most liberal men are sex positive, so what are the eventual outcomes in the dating world for radfems then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:55 AM
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Yeah Asians have more conservative backgrounds usually and they are more family oriented, so it makes sense that you are not having much difficulty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:51 AM
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Well you are a real woman and the question is addressed to women, so what is your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:46 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:45 AM
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I guess I’d consider myself from group A. Because for the two times I slept with someone I’ve wait until once we were officially together. This is because my opinion of a “top tier” man has a lot more to do with personality and charm than looks. The guys who wouldn’t want to wait for me wouldn’t excite me or turn me on so we’ve just never crossed paths I understand, but your dating pool size is much more limited than it would otherwise have been in a more sexually conservative society, hence it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:04 AM
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You are possibly correct but most women here lean closer to (b) and this correlates with the current dating culture, it would be surprising that most women are closer to (a) and yet we have a dating culture that favors type (b), so these results are actually expected so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:01 AM
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(b)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:47 PM
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(b)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:47 PM
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I mentioned it in the comment above read again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:47 PM
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That is correct, top tier men and the majority of men eventually commit, you just need to trace back the benefits vs costs up until that point. The benefits are the sum of all the fun encounters between such men and women, the costs are the emotional damage and accidental damage caused by deception and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:43 PM
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Trust me I have known lots of men who are into RP and some are very successful, also talked to lots of men here, all the talk of sex is actually about either validation or self improvement, otherwise men would of all happily go to escorts and incels wouldn't have existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:38 PM
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However, a man who is socially pressured into monogamy isn't going to be a happy If you read enough posts here you will quickly learn that the main motivation of men in acquiring casual sex is to either position them selves in the top of the male hierarchy and gain validation or to improve them selves so that they can get the best partner possible. Casual sex in and on it's self is secondary, so men will adjust them selves accordingly to play a different game among them selves when women's requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:24 PM
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Let's hope more women will respond, in the mean while most women seem to resonate with (b) which correlates to the current conditions in OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:18 PM
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Women have so many options that the decrease in available dating pool virtually means zero to them Only true if they are sharing men among them selves, this is impossible in a monogamous society so this bubble bursts eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:09 PM
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Romantically you are not anxious of being used by men, nor do you seem to be afraid of the chances of being with someone who will just waste your time, nor does having sexual relations with men after several dates or immediately bother you at all, so you seem to be closer to group (b).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:07 PM
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The average still points heavily in (b)'s favor, also I am not familiar with any movement of women trying to reverse course, which again leaves me to conclude that most women are closer to (b) on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:03 PM
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This has not, however, ruined dating for other people. It most certainly has for some women, or at the least have made it much more difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:01 PM
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I have never attempted to trade sex for commitment. I never said that you have, I said that the current culture have forced such a trade off, because accepting more risk is inherent in being more sexually liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:00 PM
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Ok so you are type (b) and it seems to be working well for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:58 PM
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You fit into the mold of not thinking deeply about the present or future which is much closer to type (b).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:57 PM
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Sexual liberation was always a decision that women could have taken before, they never exercised it because they needed the money. So you believe that the average woman would prefer to have sexual access to top tier men even tough she might not be able to get commitment, because it is better than not having it or settling for men they do not desire basically
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:55 PM
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It is closer to zero sum than not because women are unable to reliably tell men's intentions and the duration of time until which sex is expected is far too short for women from group (a), so either they are left with a much smaller dating pool size because the men that are willing to go at their pace are far and few in between, or they are forced to have sex prior to the time they fill ready and risk being pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:49 PM
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ok makes sense, try to put yourself in the shoes of such a woman living in a very liberal area
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:47 PM
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I have nothing against religious people at all, they are just not at the mainstream currently and I am interested in the secular dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:46 PM
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So which is it then? a tight sexual market in which men are forced to offer commitment and you know where you stand, either you find someone or you are forced to settle or be on your own, or what we have now which gives you a period of time in super position in which nothing is certain for good or bad, and everything will become clear in your 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:43 PM
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lol yeah I kind of knew where you stand on this already, there was no such movement that reached the mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:39 PM
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You are most definitely type (b)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:37 PM
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Women aren’t trying to get “sexual access” to top tier men Then what are they trying to do? let's say you can determine the behavior of all women, either they all wait for half a year until they have sex or they continue to do what they do now. In the case all women decide to wait for sex for half a year at the same time all men will offer commitment as soon as possible, this will reduce women's ability to have casual sex naturally and the chips will fall where they may, some women will win the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:34 PM
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So basically that puts you closer to group (b) if I understand correctly, in that you would rather to at least have the possibility of sleeping with top tier men even if in the end you will not be able to secure commitment than to have nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:25 PM
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I'm extreme a basically, but I don't really consider it zero-sum because groups a and b generally aren't even dating the same men. Depends on the age, it is highly beneficial for women from group (b) to switch to (a) once they want to settle down, in the mean while it is very hard to find men for women from group (a) without compromising. That is because most men follow along the culturally accepted lines, and even though some of these men are decent they will reject women who want to move too s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:21 PM
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Hmm let's just say I prefer my phrasing of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:10 PM
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The current market isn't limited to (b) group women. I am 26 years old, (b) type, and I did just fine only sleeping with my husband. I think our society is somewhere in the middle, really, and yes I do think it is advantageous for women and men alike. Our society is far closer to (b) actually if you take into account that women from (a) have an extremely tough time in dating. Not all (b) group women, or sexually conservative men for that matter, have been silent. Look at the pro-life movement, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 10:02 PM
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I am less lenient with zero sum situations that concern me than you, but ok I see where you are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:58 PM
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ok thanks for the clarification, do you believe that this is premeditated or the transition happens due to lived experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:57 PM
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So you mean that is beneficial to women, so you are closer to group (b) in the spectrum, am I getting this correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:48 PM
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He can binge on all of them, it is really non of my concern
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:00 PM
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Its silly to assume that what is more likely is what it always is. I didn't assume such as a thing, just mentioned the increased difficulty of finding a suitable mate in such a condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:58 PM
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The average person dates for 5 years before they marry and people marry within 2 years of their age on average (in their twenties) https://www.brides.com/story/this-is-how-long-most-couples-date-before-getting-married#:~:text=According%20to%20recent%20data%2C%20most,between%2012%20and%2018%20months. it says here that average dating duration before marriage is between 2 and 5 years they don't say which exactly so let's say 3.5, if women marry at 28 on average that leaves us with 24.5 years old wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:25 PM
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Alright be careful out there man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:53 PM
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You only advocate it as a solution because you think it’s a path to occupy the superior status you can’t earn elsewhere. You have a funny way of phrasing things, how do you view a person who is unwilling to buy a Gucci t-shirt for 500$, as someone who is unable to earn it? or perhaps you view someone buying it is a complete idiot. It is the same analogy for western women, I have no problem what so ever to find a western wife, but I believe I would rather be fucking hot 20 year olds for next coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:51 PM
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If we take 8 years of "playing the field" for women from the age of 18 to 26 and 2 years until they are 28 which the average marriage age, and we project these 8 years to the point in which a man is financially stable enough to do what OP is talking about which would probably be in his 30's we will probably arrive to his 40's. So in the bottom line I believe you should adjust your expectation to the average, it is ok to hold ideals which are fair to both parties, but when discussing the culture …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:44 PM
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Think outside of the box, that is how you game the system
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:34 PM
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Do you have some sort of superiority complex with regard to non western women? or maybe you are a racist? in either case I don't share you bigoted views at the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:31 PM
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I don't see any difference in delaying marriage until you are 30 for women and 50 if you are a man, why is there a difference in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:28 PM
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Unless you're making $500k+ you can't really live a true playboy lifestyle That is an insane statement with regards to Slavic and Asian countries, it is probably only true in the confines of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:21 PM
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Your insults about this guy aside, what do you believe is that hard about having the playboy lifestyle while having western capital that places you in the top 1% of a non western country?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:10 PM
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I won't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:56 PM
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That was in the past when gender inequality was higher. The more egalitarian a country is, the less differences there are between men and women. They've shown this for cognitive ability and mathematics scores - where women get similar results as men. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/ There are some evidence here to suggest that a man's role as the financial provider is still viewed as default by both m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:50 PM
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The inevitable collapse of the western provider market unfolds as competent men short marrying western women and going long on non western women, this is where the smart money goes, which should be a surprise to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:34 PM
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A large amount of women do care though, at least a much larger amount of women care than men which puts successful men with a larger pool and successful women with a smaller one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:12 PM
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That might be the case, the question still stands if they want to do so? marrying down comes with similar risks to women which were common to men up until recently. For women men's income is about 4 times as important as vise versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 06:03 PM
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In a way there is still a trade off for women between being a career women and having a family, it is just more subtle. It is related to the fact that women as a rule of thumb want a man that is at least as successful as they are, which means that the more successful a woman is the smaller her pool of eligible men, and the smaller are her chances of finding a man that is up to her standards. A woman who earns 50k for instance has a much larger pool of eligible men than a woman who earns 250k, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 05:11 PM
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So I thought it would make sense to question that "tradition". It is not just a tradition, it is a reality of the sex drive gap between men and women manifested in the SMP, there is no incentives for women to abandon something that works in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:36 PM
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She was priming him to be her cash cow, classic AFBB
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/20 03:22 PM
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To be fair the guy is a mega cuck, the best course of action with such women are short term arrangements
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:13 AM
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I see nothing wrong with a woman who choose a man based on his finances with the exception of malicious intent to divorce rape him in the future , or cheat or trick him into a sex less marriage once she has the leverage. The best course of action for well established men is to always rent and never buy, then these risks will go to 0 and this is an excellent arrangement for such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:08 AM
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That is correct, hence what men are saying about women being degenerates, it is not simply an insult. Women's biology hasn't adapted to select for traits that correlate with being successful in the modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:06 PM
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Polygamy is problematic for women who want resources from a man, if the woman has enough resources of her own, then I don't really see a point with polygamy she can just continue riding the cock carousel which is analogous to polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 11:02 AM
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Depends on the individual, let's just say that receiving validation from women means very little to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:05 PM
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"I have a job, a house and a wonderful group of friends and family. But I would throw all of that away if that meant I could magically become a guy who could get casual sex on demand 24/7." Such retarded comments are what is wrong with men in the modern era, someone needs to tell him that he can already get casual sex on demand, it will just cost him as any other service he would like that is on demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 08:40 PM
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Ok but it doesn't show you that gen-z is more conservative, rather it is more dysfunctional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 03:18 PM
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Don't believe they are more stressed about these things than before, what did change is the emergence of social media, OLD and porn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:08 PM
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It is possible that the current market conditions had drove the genders apart more than ever before, women realize that they will be pumped and dumped, so the group of women who prefer commitment probably exited the market. Men who are unsuccessful at competing in OLD eventually realize that it is a rigged game and then they exit the market, we are probably seeing this in the studies, but those exiting the market shouldn't be accounted for in these studies, because these are people who were unab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 09:33 PM
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Technically everything I do is geared towards earning as much money as I can while paying the least amount of tax. You can distill this to everything I do is related to achieving power, which in the modern society correlates mostly to money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 08:27 AM
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Well look at most of the complaints from women generally, lots of complaints are about men not being serious and just wanting to pump and dump, then there are other complaints about men not being attractive enough, tall enough, financially established enough, good enough in bed, etc... So if you think about it, either the bulk of women will complain about the first problem or they will complain about the second problem, but there is no possibility in which men can fulfill both (a) and (b) in a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:11 PM
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It is another false BP fantasy, what actually is going on is that looks matters a lot to both men and women but women are much more selective. Later in life when they are ready to settle down their demands grow to also include provider qualities, and they realize that they can't have it all so usually they tend to settle on looks which they didn't have to do before to that extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:21 PM
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And yes, they get to have all that because they got clear advantage in dating. It is mathematically impossible in a monogamous society, they get it in their 20's when they are sharing a small pool of men among them, this falls apart when they are forced to enter a truly monogamous contract such as marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 12:00 PM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 07:11 PM
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Much higher sex drive, and the fact that women are much more sexually selective, so the percentage of men they would consider harassing is much smaller, also due to cultural reasons of expecting the man to be the pursuer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:54 PM
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You are correct, part of being red pilled is knowing that women are much more sexually selective than men, that is why most of them will end up being miserable, they just can't win in monogamous societies, it is simply impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:45 PM
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Spinning plates from my observations severe two main purposes: Receiving validation by using you n-count as a proxy for your position in the hierarchy. Improving yourself so that you will be able to secure the best woman possible when you are ready to settle down. If none of these are relevant to you, I don't believe you will find anything worthy in pursuing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:32 AM
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There is no point to FDS, FDS can be effective only if adopted by a critical mass of women, otherwise these women would filter out high value men who are unwilling to wait for 3 months for sex, because it is not in the current acceptable norms. The men who would willing to wait are usually men who don't have other options who these women would not want in the first place. This goes back to what is being discussed here from time to time, women can choose to live in a sexually liberated culture an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:55 PM
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Naturally, the ones that you need to worry about are the ones who don't want to pay for it, this was always the case
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 01:04 PM
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What has happened is that women started earning as much as men but their underline biology has not changed, so they are attracted to men who out earn them while earning the same as men on average. As a man you need to think carefully if you want to spend your life with a western woman, as you have said she brings to the table as much as you do in the best case, in the worst she feels she settled because she wants someone who out earns her, hot and charismatic. She doesn't want to do domestic cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 10:21 PM
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that is also correct, so we don't really know whether reducing the average marriage age will reduce or increase the divorce rate, but my guess is that cultural norms and personal values are the deciding factors here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:25 PM
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The idea is more related to dual mating, the question is whether women's preference is different for short term mating vs long term, which I am sure most will agree is correct. The second question is what % of women don't engage in strictly dating men who they see to be potentially husband material, and at periods date different types of men who don't fit their long term criteria, and the answer is substantial. The third question is who got screwed and in what way, the men who got screwed are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:14 PM
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Correlation does not mean causation, you actually don't really know why the divorce rates for younger women is higher currently. It might be because of cultural reasons and poor upbringing, which will not change regardless of age. You can't conclude from the data we have that for women who today marry at 28 on average, it is the case that if they would of been married at 22 on average then the divorce rate would of increased, the divorce rate had increased in parallel with the median marriage ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:13 PM
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Correlation does not mean causation, it might be possible that mostly poor and uneducated men and women get married in these ages now and that is the actual cause of the divergence. I believe op is saying that women should alter their behavior and not necessarily that men should marry the women who currently want to be married at the age of 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:59 PM
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lying will get you ahead, but preferably you should strive to be rich enough in order to pay for sex that you want, since lying in order to have sex is a kin to stealing food, while using escorts is a honest exchange between two parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 12:03 PM
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The real question is if the father stays or not, if not it matters for the children and for you as a tax payer paying for this shit if he is unable to, and there are enough degenerate women having that taste in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:42 AM
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Op is strictly speaking about paying for sex which is more inline with what I am talking about, he is not talking about marriage or long term relationships, he clearly is only talking about paying for sex with attractive women. I am actually not sure what you are talking about here, but in the context of having sex with attractive women money beats all, not because it makes you attractive but because it gets what you want directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 11:54 AM
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That is a bizarre outlook on life, a more correct outlook is to question what are you after, are you after sex with hot women? are you after receiving validation from women? are you looking for love? if you are just looking for sex with hot women, money beats everything else easy. If you are after validation or love, then you are correct, but you will be fucked later in life for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 08:11 PM
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When that ran out he got me tooed all the way, lesson is don't go treating actresses as escorts, just pay in advance to pros don't go offering quid pro quo deals to women who one day would become famous, that is highly retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 08:03 PM
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I don't know what the green pill is, I am talking about the fact that it is most beneficial for men to pay short term for women, instead of marrying and essentially paying long term for family related expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 07:59 PM
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The money pill actual position should be to use their money in order to get multiple young and very attractive women for short term relations, not to go all in, the smart position is to all always rent and never buy with women. So to sum up, are all women actually whores "deep" down? Not all but as a mature and successful man the ones that should interest you are the ones that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:00 PM
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Because they begin to panic, it is the decade in which they hit the wall and things doesn't seem to be going their way suddenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:30 AM
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jealousy in a way that women created these groups that glorify women What jealousy? I find this behavior pathetic, your self worth should come from within not from what some group or the other are saying, the fact that you need a group to validate you says all there is to say about you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 03:07 PM
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it's ok to show emotion Yeah it is ok for a short period of time, or if the emotion doesn't portray weakness, beyond that it will make women repulsed and drier than the Sahara desert. Saying that something is ok vs being turned on by that behavior are totally different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 03:04 PM
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Probably most people who can get married nowadays actually do it. The amount of such people are dropping I believe, but yeah it is definitely in the majority. But my point stands on these studies as well in terms of married vs single, they don't account for the bias that I have mentioned and thus aren't worth a lot for single men with options who are facing the decision whether to marry or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:41 PM
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says married people are happier than unmarried people Correlation vs causation, most people who are unmarried probably have a reason to not be content in life in general, which could explain why they are unable to find a spouse in the first place. I am talking about people who have the potential to find a spouse but choose not to, and there are no studies on this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 01:16 PM
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It is very easy to be happier than married men, considering these men have fucked up their lives. The question is poly vs game or escorts, the older you are the less appealing poly is I believe, but this is a personal decision related to how attracted you are to older women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:23 AM
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It is a trick question, all of them are bad choices, Suzie is a degenerate fit for only one thing and that is not marriage, so it is either Bethany or Stephanie, I guess Bethany.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:47 AM
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See you know very little about the RP, dual mating is women fucking hot men when they are young, IQ and money is irrelevant, then they change their strategy when they are ready to settle down because they realize that the chances they will be able to lock down a hot, high IQ and rich man are close to 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:14 AM
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That is a ridiculous reason in the era of birth control, women are pickier because they find men less physically appealing than vise versa. Also if you were a father, wouldn't you want your daughter to date the very best? So now we are calling women volunteering them selves to be cum dumpsters for chads when they are young, as the very best?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:40 AM
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WTF are you on about man, you haven't touched at the slightest dual mating, or the sexual selectivity gap between men and women, frankly I don't even see that much of a point in your post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:19 AM
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Everytime I see dating advice here, or in Theredpill or in Seduction, I get anxious, depressed and end up angry. I know that there is a reality that we cant change about how the dynamics of how sexuality works diferently for men and women but most of the time what it is said to men is: "You are a failure"."You cant have sex and will not be happy"."You are not good enough". "Women will only use you and leave you as soon as you show weakness". All this makes me and most men angry and frustrated th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:10 AM
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Yeah but you made another more general point: Acknowledging the truth of the matter - that most people don’t know what they want when they’re young, that there is some exploration and partying while people are growing up - isn’t welcome with that crowd, because it highlights the fact that they were rejected while their peers were partying Most of the single women are under that category, so the way you portray it is that it is not actually rational to filter out older women, because the only rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:24 PM
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I disagree, it is an entirely rational behavior, what men have been doing before is irrational and was caused by social conditioning and market failures with men not being exposed to enough data. It is very rational to trade unattractive older women for younger more attractive women, the only exception in engaging in this very rational behavior is your attachment to your partner, absent any such attachment the value of long term relations with a woman goes down every year she ages until at some …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:12 PM
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Most of my relationships were good relationships, but long term investment in women is just not rational, so their demise was predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:46 PM
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Ok man fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:08 PM
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I have little patience with people who write trivial things, either agree or disagree, but writing comments that basically amount to nothing is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 01:44 PM
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Your mistake is assuming that previous generations weren't fully retarded as well, majority of young men and women are idiots by definition, but the percentage of idiots in this generation is actually lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:33 PM
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Not sure what are you getting, are you suggesting that women will just go the men who pump and dump them? it is not a possibility in a monogamous society for over 20% of women to succeed in this, since the amount of such men is highly limited
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:31 PM
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No shit Sherlock
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:28 PM
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Everything it was a direct attack on white cis gamers by the degenerate leftwing gaming press
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:28 PM
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It is very hard to pinpoint I believe since it is fairly recent phenomena, I would say not later than the last 5 years. There were several critical blunders that the hard left has done, first of which was gamergate, in which they had pushed away lots of liberal millennials to the right, essentially red pilling them. Next they double downed on all of their usual degeneracy of white men are evil and all the gender horseshit, now granted the "new conservatives" are actually the centrists of 10 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 02:01 AM
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Gen Z happens to be the least indoctrinated one, at least from the surveys that have been done, in Europe the red pilling was extreme, decades of leftist degeneracy was flushed down the pipes in a span of one generation, 18 year olds in the UK are as conservative as 40 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:48 AM
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I think gen Z is the most conservative generation in 60 years, since YouTube took off many voices that have been censored by the MSM have started to reach people, so I don't believe you are reading the entire generation correctly, they might be the first generation who are actually less of a cluster fuck than the previous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 12:05 AM
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You can't have what you want, a sex toy with no personal agency who wants nothing from you. Get over it. Of course I can, I can pay young and attractive women for sex and I can do it daily for the next several decades without sharing a dime with women who seek long term relations. Who I had sex with before I married has had 0 impact on our lives. How would you suggest it has impacted his life? This is already explained above, your choices during the period in which you were not looking for somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:37 PM
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Good for you man! enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:51 PM
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I didn't treat men I had casual sex with any different then I do casual friends. It is simply not the same relationship as a life long companion. Casual sex partners vs long term are like comparing how you treat your study partner vs how you treat your brother. You are not looking at the bigger picture here, if on the decade give or take that women take until they start looking for someone "serious" to settle down they use their advantage in the short term market to sleep with hot men, this have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:00 PM
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Bhahahahah platonic, if they believe this, with their IQ sucking dick is the only thing for them in this entire universe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:57 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:29 PM
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so are birth rates in western countries, give it a few decades and we shell if I was correct
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:19 PM
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If he wants to have a group of young sugar babies to fuck then that’s what he should do, but those women are not just fucking him, they have other costumers and often boyfriends in their personal lives, so it’s not a harem. There is no problem here it is exactly a mirror situation that young women have with chads. Since men are investing short term it only stands to reason that commitment is out of the question in this arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:46 PM
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Not sure I understand what you mean? BP men are monogamous and family oriented, RP men are not unless they go trad when they are older, so the % of men who would have harems would continue increasing while the % of marriages will continue to drop until the western civilization will start resembling what Japan is today and begin to die off, the religious will inherit the earth and restore the ways of the past, that is basically where the world is headed to in the next 50-100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:41 PM
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King of the trailer park -- sounds great! Yes it is, there is nothing better you should try it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:36 PM
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The men who accumulated wealth were raised as BP men, the future men who would accumulate wealth would be raised as RP men, the outcomes would be totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:18 PM
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That is why you need to do everything in your power to acquire a position in which you are able to work remotely, from that point you will be able to fuck attractive women daily without being a millionaire, 6 figures from remote should allow you to live like a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:15 PM
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Are you like Benjamin Button and time flows the other direction for you, what do you believe women were doing from 18 to 28?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:12 PM
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The underline reality has not changed though, decent western providers have immensely higher barriers to entry than a sex provider, the better a provider a man is the more power has this man amassed by definition. What these men need to do is just accept the reality, they now have a choice, either give your wealth and future income to a woman who has not abided by the social contracts of past, and had used dual mating for a decade until she understood she needs to get off the ride, in the mean w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:02 PM
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What does being decent entail, it is a rather subjective term. Also I don't get why men are supposed to be decent considering the conditions they are in, since one could view the modern dating culture as a fierce competition between men in order to be able to get the best partner they can, so men who are able to gain the most experience will in theory be able to attract the best woman they can, so they have a strong incentive to pump and dump, since the initial attraction phase becomes a critica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:05 AM
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it's the lingo of the degenerates at FDS, fds = female dating strategies hvm = high value men lvm = low value men
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/20 03:45 AM
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Their strategies are doomed to fail unless adopted by a critical mass of women, their problem is that liberal feminists had scorched the ability of women to receive commitment without risking being pumped and dumped, this of course was no problem at all in their youth, they took advantage of riding the carousel proper when they were younger, it only became a major issue once they had realized that the ride is going to end soon, only then they had become bitter and resentful towards "LVM".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:09 PM
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When I was casually dating I fucked around, but once I found women who provided the most enjoyable sex, I slowed down on that front. Why pursue more bitches if the sex is great with these? I believe men who naturally are good with women behave differently than men that are drawn to TRP, they have less need for validation since it was never an issue from the first place, my friends who are into game will admit that they are after validation, the problem is that it is not sustainable post your 30'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:48 AM
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Yeah lots of men chase validation no doubt about it, but the point still stands that the men who frequent escorts are not after validation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:29 AM
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Have you considered the alternative costs of having an older wife for that sugar daddy coupled with the low desirability of 40+ women? Let's say you are 40+ now, and you are faced with a decision like that guy, to either marry and fuck an aging wife with costs magnitudes higher than ordering a pizza or to fuck a woman in her 20's for whom you order a pizza occasionally or do other low cost favors. What would you have preferred in that age?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:24 AM
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Yep we agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:19 AM
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To be fair, the amount of young men needing validation from women is astonishing, it is highly understated and disguised in the general public as men being horny and wanting sex, but once you dig deeper and see that men ranging from incels to TRP by and large refuse to go to escorts because they are unable to purchase validation should tell you all you need to know. But once men get older they begin to get some basic sense of the world, this nonsense dissipates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:24 AM
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Yeah it is a ridiculous conjecture, it is really the opposite actually, casual sex is used primarily as a means to get validation by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:07 AM
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Of course it is for sexual pleasure, what other motive can there be
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 01:55 AM
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Chill dude I have your view exactly, get wealth then use it to your advantage to fuck young attractive women, but I am against name calling, just pure action, you don't like what women are doing when you are young then make sure not to accommodate their behavior when you are older, that is all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:55 AM
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As a women in my early-twenties, the idea that is commonly propagated here that men hit their prime in their thirties is completely bizarre to me. It's true that women, until their 40's, are generally physically attracted to men a few years (1-3) older than them, I (a 24 y/o) find men in their mid-thirties nowhere near more physically attractive than men in my age range (22-27ish). Whilst it's true that money, status, resources (which older guys definitely have more of) are important to attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:47 AM
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I don't actually like the word shallow, it is very problematic to me, we all want to maximize our interests, it is the fact that women believe that they can ride the carousel and sweep betas in the end of the ride if they are unsuccessful that causes this behavior, so the fact that there are complicit men who take them at the end of the ride is to blame. I subscribe to the idea that if you don't like the behavior of women then you should take the needed steps to ensure that you will not get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:41 AM
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That’s totally fine with me. But can you please tell the incels that you are the men fucking their precious virgins so they can direct their hate to you Incels are young men, they will grow out of this or they won't stick around to find out if it gets better. I’m all for women riding the CC and taking free resources from porn sick older dudes who fetishize their youth. It’s not my jam but y’all are hellbent to be obsessed with each other. I am also all for that, nothing to do with porn it is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:51 AM
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No one on this sub even mentions anyone in their 35+ unless they’re talking about “post wall” women - which again are entirely judged on their sexual behavior in their teens and twenties. God forbid they have children or meat on their bones, these women don’t exist (yes even the old virgins. But I thought all men wanted to marry old virgins? Turns out virginity is only really desirable when accompanied by youth. Go figure.) You can piss off if you believe that you will churn all your value and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 11:44 PM
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It is a known fact by now that women are much more sexually selective than men, don't expect other results on OLD apps
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 11:35 PM
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100% correct
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 04:00 PM
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Yep, dual mating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:56 PM
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yep.. both genders use slurs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:13 AM
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I am not agreeing with you actually, let's expand the example with 2 more candidates 7.1 and 7.3, I would still argue to take the 7.5 because I believe there will be a range in which the candidate will not consider himself overqualified while the bar is still at 7, I would argue to take the best candidate that is lower than you max threshold over which you assume the candidate is over qualified. ​ Your argument earlier was that you should hire the 10 because they are the "most qualified". No my …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:00 AM
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Why? Hiring overqualified people and paying them low wages for labor that's below their capacity is a massive market inefficiency. Because markets are never that efficient, there are ranges to consider and the pool of employees is not large enough to hit the mark exactly, so let's say that you are looking for employees who are exactly 7 in the aggregate score, and you have 3 candidates one is a 10 the other is 7.5 and the third is 6.5, I would argue that 7.5 is close enough to 7 for this employe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:47 AM
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It is up to the woman how they define high n-count men, and indeed men like that are called fuckbois and LVM and other similar nick names
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:40 AM
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And maybe this is partly why the CC is bad too. The more men she can compare her husband too, especially in bed, the less likely she is to even be sufficiently aroused and satisfied by him. Yep, it makes sense on an intuitive level
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:36 AM
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Ok let me rephrase, let's define multiple disciplines and characteristics needed for a particular position and rate the applications for each discipline from 1 to 10, we can also assign a weight to each discipline to rank them by order of importance. I believe that a functioning society should give the position to the person with the best score over all disciplines as long as this particular position will not decrease his motivation or interest as you have said because he feels he could do bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:30 AM
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Yeah I believe that is pretty much the case, not sure if for regions it really mattered if men or women were sexually satisfied, I think it was centered around the family and a steady environment to raise children. But there are still lots of unknowns here, for instance if we take an average man and place him with 10 other great looking men and get women to rate him vs placing him with 10 other ugly looking men and get women to rate him, if there is a statistically significant difference between…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:24 AM
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This isn't how meritocracy works, the most qualified person should get the job unless you believe that he is not suited due to other factors such as lack of motivation. There shouldn't be a bar and every one that passes it could get the position in some sort of a degenerate manner such as looking at their gender or race, that is how you incentivize a degenerate society, a non degenerate society rewards people for their achievements only.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:09 AM
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Is there any way to structure a society so that men and women pair up up and down the WMV hierarchy and both partners are truly attracted to each other sexually? Not necessarily the MOST attracted to one another, but still attracted. Very unlikely considering how sexually selective women are, most probably you can pair at most 50% of the population but I would be surprised if you can pair more than that, 50% with current average birth rate in western countries is beneath replacement levels, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:05 AM
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This is not a bad thing. Yeah it is not a bad thing considering taxes that is for sure, as long as they are not using their usual BS to get the positions from more qualified men then every thing is good from my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:50 AM
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The CC is the rational outcome of postponing the average marriage age by a decade in a post sexual revolution culture, it is not related to selling anything, it is related to the fact that there is a huge sexual selectivity and sex drive gap between men and women and the CC is the natural outcome of that. Men shouldn't expect anything from women and women shouldn't expect anything from men, either there is enforced monogamy in a culture or there isn't, when there isn't the the old rules begin to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:39 AM
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I have been complemented semi consistently over the years equally by men and women and obviously mostly by girlfriends, I am not sure it deviates strongly from the norm though, would place myself somewhere near the 70th percentile, a bit above average but not in chad league by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 04:52 PM
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I also find myself as a man attracted to older women and not younger women at all. Not because of immaturity but simply because I believe dominance. As a non-masculine man, I like to be dominated (in a relationship) and find that older women do this better than younger ones. Conversely, I think that men who have an attraction to younger women aren't just attracted to youth but also the feeling of being dominant over someone less experienced in life. Personally it is all about attraction to me, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 04:42 PM
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That there are lots of omega males
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 02:18 PM
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I never understood how Elliot Rodgers was an incel. He was both attractive AND rich. I would have dated him ngl. Probably Asperger's, also he is a loner and gives signs of depression which probably was a turn off to women. You need to be very good looking to succeed on looks alone, most of the time it needs to be a combination of looks and some social skills, it is very rare for loners to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:59 PM
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Low value men, it is degenerate speak for hot men who use them as cum dumpsters while they ride the cock carousel
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 01:59 PM
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let me translate their degeneracy into normal speech, there are lots of good looking men on the cock carousel but to these men the average FDS woman is a cum dumpster making her low value, but ironically these men are the ones that are dubbed as low value. The men who actually treat them nice are BB aka HVM, and only 0.1% of BB are attractive to them
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 02:17 AM
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lol, I amuse myself from time to time
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 02:02 AM
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Nope, not that far I guess
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/20 01:51 AM
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if you are a trad con, then yeah it is depressing for you, because your side has lost basically, the chances of the world going back to trad con values are very slim. I am not sure how depressing it is for the average RP guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:27 PM
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I'm very happy but that's to be expected in a nice egalitarian country. By contrast, Americans are not free to come from any background, go to any university for free, drop out or change majors if they feel like it, not be crippled by student debt, work one low wage job with normal work hours to support themselves or access healthcare regardless of your income. You are probably from a Scandinavian country, it works only because the Scandinavians are honest hard working people, they are also naiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 10:59 AM
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Yep 20's is still the short term market territory, hence provider traits are not required and even can be looked as drawbacks since it isn't exciting or edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:02 PM
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I agree, all the contracts between men and women have been nullified, it's everyone for his/her own now, survival of the fittest of a sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 03:21 PM
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Interesting idea, but the cash would probably flow the other way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 01:03 PM
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Isn’t there a deep and fulfilling satisfaction that comes with unconditional acceptance, trust, and honesty? Inside jokes, shared experiences, building a life together? Having someone to cuddle and fuss over you? All of that seems so much more meaningful and sustainable than the ego boost and temporary dopamine rush that comes with busting a nut. I never needed any of these to be honest, it doesn't mean that I can't enjoy it, it just means it is far from a necessity to me, for someone like me cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 01:00 PM
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You remind of nice guys when they are 20 trying to tell women who prefer hot guys that they will care for them unlike these chads who would treat them like shit, hence, my response to you is the same as women's response to the nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:42 PM
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Explaining the whole world view is somewhat complex, the key difference is the average marriage age by and large. When the average marriage age is 22 as it was in the past, then a man has about 15-20 years of enjoying his wife in her prime, plus a significantly lower divorce rate reduces the risk of getting divorce raped. Apart from that there was no culturally built in dual mating, and women chose their partners for their long term value and not their short term value, so in essence women incen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:26 AM
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Yes I do, there were other benefits with women from other generations, these benefits are now gone, and almost all women over the age of 40 are a liability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:51 PM
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For money of course, why else anyone does what they do in the market economy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:48 PM
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For me it is most definitely better, if you enjoy fucking 50 year old women, then maybe the situation is not that bad for you after all, if you can go up to 70 you might have your pick in the nursing homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:37 PM
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It’s the reason that MGTOW is not and cannot really be what they advertise themselves. These men cannot truly "go their own way". Their "going their own way "is a power fantasy of calculated revenge in their heads. It is the epitome of what Nietzsche calls "Ressentiment". A good definition of "Ressentiment" that I see on Wikipedia says: What the fuck are you on about, so let's take an average 35 blooper or even RP man who decides to marry to a 35 year woman, and let's take someone like me who kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:29 PM
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It means that men need to forgo the notion of marriage, either learn game and try to spin plates or start paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:39 PM
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For you it seems it doesn't if you have been trying for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:04 PM
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It isn't related to your behavior, it is related to the fact that the men you are after have more options than the men you are not interested in, so their standards are totally different
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:14 PM
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Yeah could be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:38 PM
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I don't see myself ever attracted to 50 year old women and I am now in my 30's, most of the 40 year old women are not attractive to me. So yeah if you will be able to pull this off, then the poly life style is not that bad if you don't mind your women fucking others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:35 PM
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no long term at all, the problem with all that poly stuff is that you age with the group of women that you are with, so I have my doubts on how successful an average man in his 40's or 50's can be with young attractive women. I have a very consistent view on how things are, you want something of quality you pay for it, if you need to be at the top of your game professionally to allow you this life style then that is your main goal in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:26 PM
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Other, when offered the choice of paying for a woman long term in a contract similar to what a marriage is, or paying short term for young attractive women, I will always choose the later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:15 PM
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What is new under the sun, what other reason do women have of marrying when they find most men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:32 PM
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In the end it has to with the average marriage age for women, if it is early 20's then men don't really have opportunity costs for settling down, since their prospects will not get any better because the sex market was way tighter. If the marriage age is closer to 30 than it doesn't make any sense to stay because you are missing out on at least 10 years of single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 12:19 AM
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You are insane if you are thinking that when you are 50 you can fuck the chads you fuck today, you will sleep with perhaps 50 year old men who used to be good looking, but not with 25 year olds who can get young hot women. It is MEN that fund the sugar baby industry because the only way young women will touch them with a barge pole is with financial compensation. That is correct and excellent news for well established men who don't have to touch no 50 year old sagging women and can just pay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:43 PM
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With such business models usually what happens is that some of them will make millions while the rest hardly anything, then some of them will become actual prostitutes which is a good thing for established older men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:29 PM
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ok but still you find 50 year old women beautiful, let's even say that for now the hottest guy is hotter than the hottest girl, in a few years he will start loosing his hair, and progressively become more average looking and you will find him ugly, and it is not the case with women, so you can already go gay and find a high earning lesbian who you would be attracted to for much longer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:20 AM
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Clearly you are much more les since you find 50 year old women attractive and most young men not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:15 AM
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I find the notion disgusting but ok, so why are you asking about men you clearly are more into women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:12 AM
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And you would be down fucking some other left over 50 year old woman? women are much more selective than men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:10 AM
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Your value is depreciating though, I hope you are serious about not wanting men long term because from about 35, your decay would become exponential. Are you ready to pay attractive men to sleep with you when you are 50?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:06 AM
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You could have any preference that you desire, I prefer young hot curvy women myself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:47 AM
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It works both ways, rational men wouldn't enter relationships with aging women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:44 AM
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However now, women can work and have kids on their own, they can buy and operate weapons, own their own property. Such women shouldn't bother to enter monogamous relationships with men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:39 AM
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If women can't read a man that dumps them the moment they become pregnant or suddenly turns violent towards them, I wouldn't expect men to successfully able to read anything that women wish to hide
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:37 AM
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I know a guy who was in several relationships over the years, in each relationship he found himself wanting to cheat after a period of time, it has always amazed me how nothing has ever changed for him and although he got lots of hit in the past for this behavior, he kept repeating it over and over. But since you are looking for someone similar then it's not a problem, usually the problem is dual mating, if you are going for a recovering fuck boy I don't see any issues with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:33 AM
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I don't believe that high value men will ever agree to this, it will only work with religious men or low value men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:10 AM
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Red pill subs talk about women but we want to have sex with them. To be fair, RP also heavily obscures it's prime motivations, we already can quite reliably tell that the main motivation is not in fact wanting to have sex, it is wanting to have sex for free, which points to the fact that there are two prime goals for RP men: Receiving validation by having success with women. Improving your ability to have access to the best quality of women when you are ready to settle down. MGTOW is for men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:01 AM
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Again using your definition I am sure that more than 80% of people in the dating market are hypocrites, it isn't a useful criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:12 PM
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Possibly but then most of the people in the dating market are hypocrites, it is just not a very important observation I had to say, men and women shouldn't be 100% equal on all the parameters they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:32 PM
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MGTOW is just no cohabitation and no children, all the rest is up to the individual, personally I believe the optimal strategy for men is to either pump and dump or pay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:36 PM
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I understand what you are saying but that is the wrong way of looking at things, if women would of penalized men for high n-counts then it would of been up to the men to decide what to do with that information. Since women don't men don't really have to change anything, is it hypocritical for women to want men that out earn them? or that are physically stronger than them? Your way of thinking just doesn't translate well into the dating market, the only thing that matters is the preferences of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 10:10 AM
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I am trying to think of solutions that would maintain the family structure and benefit society as a whole. There are none, best bet is to short the current LTR market, and either women will panic and tighten the sexual market or go trad in order to find decent men, or the culture just unravels. The second outcome is much more likely. If the majority of people in power have no morals that bind them to a community, we are so fucked. Well not me, I'll be dead by then. Agreed but we will be dead by …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:38 PM
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The only viable solution I can think of right now is to create a law that restricts everyone on dating sites to only having 2 likes per day. I have a different take on this. As you said there are 2 markets, the short term market that starts from 18-30, and the long term market that starts post 30. The first market is heavily skewed towards good looking alpha men, and they pretty much pump and dump their way into their 30's. In order to succeed in this market you don't really need to have anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:15 PM
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yep no surprises from my end, but I wouldn't place them on par with incels, my definition of incels is young men who are not competitive enough in the SMP to be able to get a girlfriend in their 20's. It seem plausible to me that at the very least 10% of young men are incels if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:35 PM
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not seen as sexually attractive is a high bar, perhaps 80% of men fit in that criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:24 PM
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In what way do you define inceldom? are BB also incels, because they are being settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 06:26 PM
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No shit, why is this surprising to you, the same would of happened to you from the other side if some guy had became hotter, you would of start seeing women start treating him better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:54 AM
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1.)Men do truly value looks so much more than personality that they will trade you up if given the chance. My sole value to men is how fuckable I am, I will never be a great beauty hence why I will never get the treatment I deserve from a partner. Come on now, women in the AF stage of their lives are x 10 more selective than men and they also care mostly about looks, they stop caring only once they enter the BB stage, also deserve is a very strong word, what makes you deserve something from some…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:48 AM
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It is up to women to draw red flags for men, so you tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:33 PM
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Marrying is irrational in this day and age, it would of being logical if you would of been heavily pressured by your family or society, like it was in the past, currently if you can live your life without having children, it is simply counter productive for you to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:12 PM
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Suddenly someone gives a fuck about men committing suicide, since when? this gap is rarely discussed. This is another topic out of millions that is related to the modern retardation of the left. First the left bombards us with the pay gap myth that once you start analyzing across multiple dimensions such as the difference in the amount of working hours between men and women and the difference in occupation preferences, this myth pretty much collapses. Then men have started to use the same logic …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 10:51 PM
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We’ve outsmarted the system of reproduction at this point, we can all make lots of beautiful love without the consequences of tiny humans. That’s incredible, I can’t fathom how people still chose to have babies. Why don’t we just hang out and travel and experience what the world has to offer. LTR are a scam. You are still young and riding the carousel, the thought of your looks fading away with the chances of ever conceiving a child coupled with the increasing loss of interest from the men that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 11:18 AM
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Because of the access to the cock carousel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:13 AM
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It is the feminist conflation of some types of behaviors by low iq men with masculinity, masculinity has nothing to do with it, it is the combination of low iq and shitty upbringing by degenerate parents
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:10 AM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:06 PM
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Yeah not worthy by that class of men who they are accustomed to sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:21 PM
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Men don't gate keep commitment, only a sub group of men gate keep commitment, the women being kept out are the women who are good enough to sleep with but not to offer commitment to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:27 PM
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The problem with western men is that they are being socialized into a bizarre liberal culture that on it's surface will not be able to sustain itself. Men's well being is directly tied to how they place them selves in the male hierarchy, and the new formed culture have created a huge bottleneck for men in terms of receiving this kind of validation. What men need to realize, is that nothing of essence has ever changed, their primal objective in life has not changed, your objective is to acquire a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:10 PM
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What she's saying is, OF COURSE you will see and hear from women who enjoy a lot of casual sex--because that benefits men. This doesn't mean the women are wrong or brainwashed, but they're following one path. Full liberation would allow for a lot more options. While I think she's underestimating how many women DO sincerely enjoy sex, even without commitment, she's quite right that "freedom from sexuality" is quite taboo. Many early feminists did advocate for voluntary lifelong celibacy, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:46 PM
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I am talking about neither, I am merely talking about women being mislead by the 'you are a queen and you deserve the best' cope, it is used primarily to raise women's standards in FDS and to stop women from settling, although settling might be their only option
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:03 AM
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But I am sure you know of women who don't want to even though they are able to survive on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:01 AM
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Yeah obviously single people have worth, but men and women have objectives in life, women may want to start a family for instance or have a financial security provided by a man. When such women arrive to FDS and they are told that they are queens and they deserve the best, I am not sure they truly understand that it is most likely a code name for them remaining single for the rest of their lives. In the end of the day it is a market, women and men come with expectations and either someone meets …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:52 AM
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Good for you, so you are one of the women who can afford to remain single then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:37 AM
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Yeah I already explained that most women who remain single will be competing against men in the job market, especially for more high paying jobs. Most professions today dont pay jack and the average American makes maybe $65,000. Many living paycheck to paycheck. You can look up the stats on this in the US. So this is the point really, let's take the bottom 30% of women earning let's say less than 30k and let's take men from 50th to the 80th percentile earning on average 80k. So these women are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:18 AM
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I am not sure what inherent worth is, but if you are a woman in the 70th percentile going for men in the 95th percentile, then you will most likely remain single. Women don't really know their own self worth correctly because of the distorted sexual markets nor do they try to understand what percentile of men they are after, so the real question is, would their standards have changed if they knew they are shooting way above their league, and I am quite sure that some of the women there would of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:01 AM
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Ok so in your case this doesn't apply, most professions these day are split between men and women, in high paying positions the competition tends to heat up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:56 AM
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Nope the 'best' for many of them means: 6ft, attractive, well built, financially secure and wants commitment, due to the distorted sexual market they have grown to believe that they actually deserve such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:42 AM
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Men and women can either be partners forming family units, or market competitors competing in the market, lots of women don't really put a big emphasis on their careers since they know that they are able to find a man who will, in a society in which men and women stop forming family units, these women will now have to compete against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:40 AM
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Mostly the inverse is true, most of the people deserve almost nothing, some of these women have a demand list of 6ft tall, attractive, well built, financially secure, good in bad and looking for commitment, we are talking about top 5% at best if not much less, but they don't seem to comprehend that the fact that they are even in that sub places them way below the top 5% of women, I would doubt it that most women on this sub is even in the top 20%. So this sub should really be about WGTOW and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:35 AM
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No not at all, I just stated that I prefer women who don't settle, if you are competent woman who is ok with being alone and competing with men in the market for the rest of your life, then by all means go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:28 AM
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No women I know chases a man just for money at any age. Sure, I do know they exist though. It is not just for the money, they require a provider who will bring money and security for the family. In my life experience they are more an exception. They want connection and someone just stable in their life not a wallet. Well that is the thing, women practice dual mating strategy in which in the first decade they chase hot young guys and when they forced to settle by their depreciating looks and biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:26 AM
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There is an overlap of MGTOW and RP on exactly that, MGTOW has only 2 conditions: - no cohabitation - no kids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:19 AM
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Not enough, I still see delusion there, and it is entirely unclear how many of the women understand their fate, some of them seem to get it, but lots of them buy into the 'you deserve the best' cope and I am not entirely sure that if they had realized the truth they would of taken that advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:17 AM
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The fact that this applies to men as well, doesn't diminish the correctness of the original statement. 35+ women will have a much harder time locking down serious commitment, regarding men it could be the same as well, but since women are seeking to exchange their depreciating looks for capital, the men they go after will have a somewhat steady value since a man's wealth usually goes up, that can't be said about a woman's looks, and so any reasonable man will send such a woman packing since only…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:11 AM
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Not all MGTOW avoid relationships, the rules are usually no cohabitation, no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:45 AM
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What TRP are saying is not that no one wants to date these women, just that it would be much harder for them to lock down a man for something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:44 AM
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You are a queen and you deserve the best, this is the shortest route to spinsterhood. These women need to accept the fact that in all likelihood they are looking at single life and a competition with men in the market until the day they die, if this alternative is still better for them than to settle, then that is great and I would personally prefer all women to make this choice, but they need to adjust their expectations towards the fact that they won't be able to secure such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:43 AM
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can't you leave India? the smart money is always on getting western $, then fucking young hot 20 year olds in poorer countries, that is how the real game is played for people that have any sense. The most crucial thing is always acquiring money, money is the closest proxy to power in this world, and this is your true objective as a man, the acquisition of power, pussy will then follow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:41 PM
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but I agree we still don't have full sexual liberation. What do you regard as full sexual liberation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 09:39 PM
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Ok let's focus on the world today, 60 years post the sexual revolution, you have women even on this thread telling you basically that they are young and enjoy riding the carousel, so it is kind of a hard sell to say that they are being exploited when they are clearly stating that they prefer the situation that we currently have, and the SMP also shows that this is the desire of the average woman. So even if you are somehow correct about the early stages of the feminist movement, what is your pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 09:25 PM
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The problem is that women are doomed in any case, they have a stronger desire to monogamy and yet they are highly sexually selective. So once the sexual markets were opened a small subset of men had very high demand, and they had the advantage. When women are totally free they can either share a small subset of men and forgo the notion of monogamy or they can settle and have a provider. What women have been doing post the sexual revolution, is to have it both, to have the first option when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 08:34 PM
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In the long run only a small subset of men and women, in the shorter run it is still a small subset of men and a much larger subset of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 08:25 PM
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It is usually pointless because men have more mutual interests with other men, but if you have mutual interests and keep the needed distance it could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:36 PM
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I wouldn't stick around to see if a woman has red flags if she is high n-count, if you are signing a contract that on the it's premise binds you to another person for the rest of your life, every small suspicion could be critical. High n-count correlates with poor impulse control, or emotional problems to me, these are not the partners I would be looking to for long term options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:32 PM
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I would probably also try to get his dad to help him get sex the normal way because the idea that someone that has my DNA would have to pay for something other men get for free would annoy me. I see that this is an economic argument you present, so I will give counter points. In reality escorts offer men insanely higher value than regular women. At the point men are established in their 30's and women begin loosing their looks and are looking for a sucker to trade their depreciating looks for ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 10:55 AM
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Why is it misogynistic, do you want to marry a man who fucked around until his 30's and then stumbled upon you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:53 AM
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​ I am not homophobic, I believe homophobia is wrong, there were lots of gay men who contributed to society greatly. With that said, I find the modern gay culture like anything else coming from the left just pathetic, just juxtapose these men I respect who happen to be gay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9f0W2KD5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0eg_q8fCmA and the usual degenerates coming from the left who happen to be gay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4LP0z493oY https://www.youtube.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:38 AM
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There several definition floating around, but if a man is attractive, charismatic and intelligent he would probably be described as an alpha. If you are married to one then he is Alpha Bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:27 PM
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I believe hookup culture is the land of the law in Scandinavian countries, it is ingrained in the culture, in Germany it probably depends where you live, I am quite certain that large cities like Berlin have their share of hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:14 PM
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Q1:So let’s just say for instance that a low n woman is with a man. How can we make sure he is alpha bucks rather than beta bucks? AF/BB is mostly said about women who ride the cock carousel until they are forced to settle down with a betabux. Low n-count women usually either date alphabux or betabux they don't ride the cock carousel. Q2: Is it advisable to find an alpha bucks? Obviously if you are able to without being pumped and dumped. Q3: What are the definitions of an alpha bucks? A provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:09 PM
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Yes Asian women are very attractive and feminine looking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:58 AM
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The 90's standards were made by gay men, small waist and large hips is directly linked to sexual attraction for me, there is literally no other attribute that a woman can have that can boost her attractiveness by that margin for me. With that said, there are freaks out there that look unnatural due to all the surgeries they have performed and that is a turn off, they go way over the top with the implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:55 AM
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still don't buy it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality#:~:text=The%20significant%20percent%20of%20identical,sets%20were%20raised%20in%20different Among dizygotic or genetically non-identical twin pairs, there was only 1 of 38 (2.6%) pairs where both twins were trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:14 AM
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Agreed, it is a sham that damages our institutions on top of being an overtly racist policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:02 AM
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Universities can have targets to increase diversity in their student population == systemic racism against whites and Asians
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 09:35 PM
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I can understand open relationships much more than I can understand poly, that is for sure Maybe you can just hire escorts if not swinging? This way you can get sexual action without any emotional commitment. Otherwise set strict boundaries when swinging, to avoid the formation of emotional attachment. Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 09:14 PM
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Almost every human needs companionship in their life Could be, but I still believe you can acquire a love for the single life and you won't miss companionship if you have a network of friends and easy access to sex. I think a swinger lifestyle can allow you to keep your relationship interesting, flirting with other people, having sex with other people. This way you don't feel "stuck", and it can make your relationship stronger too. I find it hard to believe that these could really work long time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:57 PM
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I believe it is better to not need security and companionship in the first place, first achieve self reliance then your only problem will be acquiring sex, and that is quite an easy problem to fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:22 PM
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I don't get it, I get open relationships when you just want to have sex with other people, but I can't grasp polyamory. For each his own though, if it is working for you then that is great
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:00 PM
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Don't get me started on these fucking Hollywood degenerates doing this for attention, what are the chances that two brothers turn out to be trans??? They are just signaling how special they are to the world, I find it highly bizarre to say the least, just shut the fuck up and continue making movies, how hard can this be.. no they just have to out clown one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:51 PM
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Yeah it is, the point I was making is that unless the woman is like you and likes betas, she is filtering out men who she finds attractive. While this is not true for men, because being a slut is not correlated with how attractive a woman is to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:43 PM
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Where is this carousel? Sounds bizarre & fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4 :) This is not a fantasy it happens to women every day, it is inevitable really
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:38 PM
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You are still young, women who are addicted to the carousel and are not good looking enough to lock down the men they got used to fucking, will have it rough in their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:30 PM
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That is not the problem that women face, the problem that women face is that men who are attractive to women are usually high n-count, while with women the correlation is much weaker to non existent. Meaning that it is easier for men to filter out high n-count women without dropping their standards, while this doesn't tend to be true for women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:25 PM
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I don't understand what is the advantage of polyamory is when Tinder does in fact allow you more sexual freedom because of the high availability of partners. Polyamory only makes sense for women who want to cuck a beta and fuck an alpha in the same relationship, I don't see any other uses for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:47 PM
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Don't know man, feels like it would of been better for you just to stay single and enjoy ilfe, men and women are free these days to just stay single and enjoy sex if that is what they are after, just the fact that you feel like it would be regarded as cheating says that you are forgoing opportunities that you have for her, yet previously you risked the entire relationship by asking to open it up. People should just learn to be single in peace and then do what ever they like, no need for any othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:34 PM
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No long term changes, the long term trend is clear, drop in marriages and almost everybody that is successful on OLD is looking to fuck basically
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:50 AM
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That is just because black men are not pussies, they won't take this shit, only subservient rich white pussies will take this attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:43 PM
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lol a bunch of degenerates, we should trade hard working people wanting to flee these shit hole countries with these idiots, they are whining about white privilege all the time, aren't they? well they are white and rich as far as I can tell, let's throw these fuckers in Cuba and take some intelligent hard working Cubans instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:14 PM
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Really?? nah, you are trolling me now, no hardcore far rightist wants to feminize men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:16 PM
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Keep in mind, without women's vote, many far-left politicians around the world would never have won their positions. You have convinced me, we need to segregate to different countries for men and women, we will throw you the commies as a gift, then as every leftist country you will fail miserably and then we will let women back in to offer sex for money and fuck back off to their failing states.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:09 PM
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At least this is not that utter garbage critical race theory
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:33 PM
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Just one of many leftist idiotic practices in play, you can't criticize fat people you can't criticize dumb people, you can only ever shit all over cis white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 07:09 PM
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Because men have higher sex drive and the sexual market clearly shows that men are thirstier, that is just the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 04:05 PM
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Just like the porn industry the barriers to entry are not that high, an elite number of e-thots will earn millions while the rest struggle. There are not enough simps to bleed dry, hopefully it would drive these simps to off them selves and rid us of their bottom tier existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:55 AM
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Red pill is off putting to mainly sexually conservative women, sluts will fuck attractive men from what ever pill, so maybe not that much will change except later on where there would be 0 marriageable men because BP men would be a thing of the history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 01:09 AM
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not interested in slutting around anymore Out of curiosity what has changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:02 AM
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I don't understand why you are so emotional about it, if you have given up on LTRs and family you don't really have a need for a man, unless you work in some shitty dead end job. Enjoy your life being a slut, only women who need men for commitment have to prove them selves to men, women like you control the sexual market so I don't see why you need to give a fuck about what men or women think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:44 PM
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Sounds like the difference is intelligence, for you a slut is just a dumb hoe if I understand correctly. She has the potential to be a hoe but she is not smart enough to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:24 PM
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The data shows marriage satisfaction dropping for both men and women with increasing n-count. I know a girl who monetized on her sexual behavior sometimes, was very sexually active, and where other men literally were drooling over her, showering her with gifts, spending tons of money on her, wanting her badly to commit to him and they actually proposed their love to her(...). She was basically rich because of it. She had so many men trying to commit to her, astonishingly. Even in her 30s, men fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:18 PM
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Because they are sick and tired of fucking each other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 06:48 PM
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Yep man that is the way to go for smart men who don't give a fuck about validation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:32 AM
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I am not in the business of lying, MGTOW is MGTOW, no reason women who follow similar doctrines won't be successful if they have a similar mindset and ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 11:28 AM
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Could you post some pics so we have an understanding what you consider ugly men with good looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:04 PM
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Compotent women who don't want a family could lead quite a happy life in today's society, they even get the added benefit of the CC being for free while men have to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:20 PM
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https://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/paying-taxes-american-living-abroad/#:~:text=Under%20residence%2Dbased%20taxation%2C%20countries,both%20local%20and%20foreign%20sources.&text=If%20you%20are%20an%20American,no%20matter%20where%20you%20live. Avoiding Double Taxation on Foreign Income One issue that arises in this tax system is that an individual could theoretically be doubly taxed on their income earned – both by their country of current residence and the US. This scenario is especially r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:17 PM
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Or Something something manufacturing shuts down for black families in the 80s and no one gives a shit Ok good point the only president that had done something against the globalists is Trump btw, and that is not the sole problem of black people so why are you turning this into a race thing then? don't you think working class white people were affected as well by globalization? Also no one gave a fuck about white workers except for Trump either, if Trump wouldn't arrived at the scene the globalis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:56 AM
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But that is the point, you are just running away from the problem. You are barking in the wrong tree, it's a women's problem and women need to fix it, the fix is for women to collectively tighten the sexual market, return to slut shaming and to marrying at early 20's this is pretty much the only way to reverse course, but these are not my problems and not my fixes to make. If nothing changes, they will end up just like that. Infact, you sending money to them through whatever means is only accele…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 03:16 AM
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Yep go your own way, you are exactly the type of woman who can benefit from the current climate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:38 AM
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Or maybe it is unrelated, not everything can be explained through this feminist nonsense, women are very aggressive towards each other at times, the form of aggression is just not physical, they do shame and plot against other women though. Not everything related to aggression is masculine some of it is also feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:13 AM
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This is just too dated, successful men don't usually behave in that manner in today's society, I don't see how this strategy can be used without filtering a huge amount of high value men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:02 AM
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Even if that is the case we could agree that both of these men are not respected by society
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:46 AM
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By society, these men are not respected neither by men or by women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:41 AM
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I don't understand why you keep linking masculinity to the treatment of women. Look at our blue pilled parents and grand parents, much more masculine than the men today, yet treated women much more softly (not talking about lower class men here). The modern treatment of women is related to the fact that women optimize for short term partners between the ages of 18-30, and most women get wet by dangerous and somewhat cocky extroverts, other men are just copying this stereotype. I understand that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:38 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism didn't find anything like that here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:18 AM
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Why are you hampstering at the speed of light trying to push this ridiculous conspiracy theory that men infiltrated the lib fem movement in order to push their own agenda. There are simply two groups of women at the extremes, one that needs to be in a committed relationships in order to enjoy sex and the other don't. The women that don't need committed relationships had won the cultural war and had eroded the market position of the second group of women, these two groups are in a zero sum game b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:12 AM
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DS is right on some points. A man that really likes a woman will happily wait for sex, buy her gifts, take her out on expensive dates and generally do whatever he can to please her. He'll do all of that just to see the smile on her face and knowing that he was the guy that put it there. That's what genuine attraction can do to a dude, and most men have experienced it at least once. Not in the modern SMP, in the modern SMP such a man is deemed as a failure and he will very likely move on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 11:57 PM
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"Modern feminism" is feminism hijacked in the 60s and 70s by male imperative marketed to women as pro-woman. Interesting, I always asked myself, could feminists be that incredibly dumb to not understand the effects of opening up the sexual market? I came to the conclusion that it is unlikely that they are that retarded and that most women just prefer the option of fucking hot men for a decade and then to settle down since they still have betas as plan b.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 11:55 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 06:28 PM
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No kidding. Did you see how they all lost their minds when he posted a joke his wife made about how if you need a bucket and a mop for your vagina you probably have a disease? Somehow that joke turned into "Ben Shapiro has never made his wife wet or orgasm." Pathetic. Yep zero sense of humor, they thought he was absolutely literal, they actual believe he has absolutely no clue on the female anatomy and he didn't get what the song was about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:13 PM
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So if men act like degenerates does the mean women should follow, the only reason no one talks about is because that horse shit isn't paraded as female empowerment. But without a doubt hip hop contains a profane amount of degeneracy and it appeals to the dumbest people in society, and that applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:54 PM
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They didn't freak out, it is a trash song, Shapiro is known to hate hip hop and it is on the record, it was a gimmick to draw in viewers, but most of internet believes that Shapiro was actually serious and this wasn't just a satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:44 PM
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Philippines I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:41 PM
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he has several comments about him liking sluts but hating hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:40 PM
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It entitles moving to a non western country and having sexual access to hot young women who are down to fuck for money. Essentially it is wealth redistribution from western women to non western women, that is all there is to it. There is also an added benefit of not paying taxes to support single mothers and failed leftist initiatives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:38 PM
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Not sure what do you have against hoes, they provide a service and don't bother you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:10 PM
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Monogamy will finally be "out of fashion" in future. There is no real monogamy for years now, just a resource grab by women once they hit the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:09 PM
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Yes in order to understand how much you are paying for sex you need to factor all the expenses, usually it is more relevant to the players who want to have casual sex and not to the men pursuing relationships. The biggest expense is probably logistics, a flat in the center of the city close to the pubs will already cost you a great deal, then you need to factor in your success rate of getting laid and the average expenses per each attempt, for most men in the end it will probably be more cost ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:06 PM
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Well simps are bottom tier indeed, I truly hope they will be bled dry by these women for being that pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:12 PM
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Do you want your daughter to end up like one of those sex workers I have no plans of having a daughter or a son. I am not sure what do you want me to say, if you don't have it within you to exploit a degenerate system then you don't have it within you. I am planning to utilize my capital to it's fullest, I don't see anything morally wrong with opting out of a degenerate society and gaming it to it's fullest, if you want to take the moral high road then go ahead no one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:10 PM
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Fair enough I thought you see the bigger picture here from your responses indeed just wanted to explain my point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:58 AM
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Not sure what your political affiliations are, but talks of degeneracy are usually rich coming from women. The current sexual market is mostly controlled by women and it is women's preference to have a wide open sexual market to chase high tier men, in the mean while holding betas as captives who are believed to have no other alternatives for plan b. The justified retort on that behavior from men should to gain capital and get settled in life, once that is accomplished to seek short term arrange…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:34 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:23 AM
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It is good news for men, sex workers offer an insanely higher value to men, not to simps obviously but to men who want an actual return for their money. I hope sex work is legalized and normalized, although the return would be still much higher in non western countries so it is optimal for men to be able to work from remote, and the good news with covid is that it will be easier than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 09:54 AM
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Sounds like a loser's mentality to me. How so? that was just a mere acknowledgement of how markets operate A lot of men do put their money into themselves, which often does cause the dynamic to flip where they have control. Interesting how that works. good as they should I think you admit here that men are giving up power to women and that women don't have much bargaining power on their own apart from sex I do but I don't believe their bargaining power is sex, that one is easily solved, they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:44 PM
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Women control the sexual market by and large, and to the victors goes the spoil, that is how it is in life. If men are not alright with that they should pursue other alternatives, in the end in a market you have alternatives and you put your money where the benefits for you are maximized. Since women are holding men by the balls, because men are too thirsty to defend their position and because the modern culture had created a huge demand for women because of the need for validation through casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 10:10 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't find it surprising that the violence is way overblown for sure, but with regards to these memes they are usually posted by incels, and you are correct that it doesn't mean that the majority of incels hold these views, it is also impossible to tell because we don't have any data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:59 PM
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MGTOW is a set of principles, it is decentralized, there is no movement, no one currently knows what demographics follow these principles. My guess is that it is mostly libertarians and conservatives who are contrarian by nature and have above average IQ, apart from that I wouldn't place any bets. Also from what I do know MGTOW are hated by the alt-right and white nationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:51 PM
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You can't really, the sub doesn't represent the movement, and you can't really draw any conclusions from few active posters and complicit mods. What you can do is look at MGTOW position and debate them, other than that I don't see how you can draw any conclusions. Hatred on MGTOW has been present for years Criticisms of women doesn't constitute as hatred, if MGTOW is hateful then all the feminists movements are hateful as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:46 PM
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/r/MGTOW is now comprised of incels who infiltrated it after their sub was closed, it doesn't represent the original positions of MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:41 PM
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The MGTOW sub was infiltrated by incels after their sub was banned so that sub doesn't really represented the original positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:38 PM
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Because they celebrate violence against women These are incels and not sure how many of the incels for that account, but MGTOW don't celebrate violence against women. openly promote racism What proof do you have of this? MGTOW has nothing to say about race. Regarding misogyny I don't trust someone like you to be actually objective about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:25 PM
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I have known lots of nice men who weren't passive, they still lucked out.More often than not it is related to physical appearance though, it is the most critical aspect there is. If you look good enough then charisma could propel you to be next level chad, for more average men TRP is probably the way to go, but by and large the bottleneck for men is always how attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 02:29 AM
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The thing about being "too nice" is the problem is almost never being too nice, it's being too passive. Not sure if nice guys are that passive, they do ask these women out, the problem is usually that either they are not good looking enough or that they are boring because they are actually nice. For most women nice == boring, they are not attracted to someone being nice, they are attracted to dominant and somewhat volatile men. You deny it because in your case you are actually attracted to beta …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:59 AM
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The data shows that the marriage satisfaction for men drops as n-count increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:35 PM
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Well if in theory you can't tell a difference in physical terms between a 16 year old and an 18 year old, then it is what it is.In theory a 20 year Asian can look less developed than a 16 year old Caucasian, so what then? are all the guys dating the Asian woman are disgusting then? These standards are quite arbitrary and somewhat inconsistent giving the variance in development between women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 09:14 PM
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18 is not 16, and still the most popular porn is with women who show characteristics of sexual maturity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:58 PM
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That is ridiculous majority of men are attracted to women in their young 20's the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:28 PM
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I don't believe given the option of prostitution that the majority of men would rape
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:27 PM
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You are saying ridiculous things, most men are not pedos. Also rape would increase but because of a small percentage of men who have the predisposition for it, of course they could rape daily and so the increase would be large, but not due to the majority of men. Laws don't really stop illegal behavior, look at drugs for instance, men who want to go to prostitutes will do it irregardless, the reason they aren't doing it, is that for the most part men are after validation and not purely sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:09 PM
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I don't believe the game has actually anything to do with sex, relationships or love, it is more related to being validated as a man. Women are used as a proxy of your place in the male hierarchy, and that is pretty much the domain of male competition in the ages 18-30, until women switch their strategy from seeking AF to seeking BB and you see it begin to fade. Another motivation could be to improve in order to gain the access to the best possible partners, so I believe the primary forces drivi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 11:13 AM
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Women are 4 times more likely to want a partner who out earns them than men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 10:33 AM
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Wealthier people are more likely to get married and stay married than low class people. https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/MF-paper-The-Marriage-Gap-Rich-and-Poor.pdf https://www.businessinsider.in/the-richer-people-are-today-the-more-likely-they-are-to-get-married-and-stay-married/articleshow/65957132.cms But I don't believe that this is what TRP and RPW were saying, this still doesn't negate the fact that it would be harder to find a suitable mate for successful women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:11 AM
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It's easier to be angry than it is to do the hard thing and fight for a better life There is nothing to fight for, the sexual market is controlled by women, it is up to them to determine the wanted balance between their sexual freedom and the willingness of men to offer commitment. On average women have decided that the way things are now is optimal, at least for the average woman, there was no movements apart from the religious conservatives that I am aware that said something along the lines t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 09:22 PM
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I wonder how are you going to be able to find the biggest betas in the world, you will probably have the easiest dating life in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:44 PM
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So you are unorthodox considering what the culture has become.It is not about individual women as far as I am concerned, it is broader, it is about the culture on the whole. I find the culture on whole degenerate on multiple dimensions and I refuse to participate in it. hate to spoil the revenge fantasy, but there will never be an advantage to not partnering off with another smart, high-earning person. Society will just become the haves and have-nots, which is what you're already seeing. You are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 08:40 PM
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How so? how do you even define the blackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:41 PM
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Ah now I see. You are making some rather large assumptions about humans. While force etc vrs those captured in battle or whatever would be common, its would be far less common when these women are your mothers, sisters, etc. As social animals we have our limits of "right and wrong" which is mirrored in society not caused by it. There is a lot of wiggle room but most societies are not so brutal and THAT is in our DNA. Jesus dude, just look a little bit sideways from western civilization, in the A…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:34 AM
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Decent social circles are only accessible to conventional well-off families. If men want to go off the reservation and fuck hookers, or whatever else they want to do, they are locked out of this world (women too). Not close to being restrictive enough, also the culture has gone so liberal that no one really gives a fuck about what you are doing any longer. I understand that it is not wide spread enough yet, but once more and more men will be exposed to such possibilities it will become quite wid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 11:24 AM
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Funny that you should say that since bad men are usually the men who see the most action in college. Women on average sure as fuck don't fuck the compassionate and emphatic men in college, that I can assure you of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 01:20 AM
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I had a bit of a typo which was not suppose to be sexually is the ONLY validation but in validation is the major benefit of sexuality. Seeing true lust in a womans eye is awesome, that half animal complete surrender, is why sex is fun. Otherwise its vagina assisted masturbation. See, again I don't subscribe that this something primal at all, in fact I believe that your thinking is a product of the 60's for the most part. Primal men used to take women by force, there was no expectation at all for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:02 AM
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Sorry bud but cash and prizes for sexual encounters is not the same as choosing to marry a high quality mate. Ppl can attempt to cynically conflate the two all they want, but it says more about the kind of women they associate with than the actual social reality. Well you are not going to remain high quality for long, in a decade you will not look as young as you do now, at that point your husband will start loosing compared to someone who doesn't give a fuck about female validation and will kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:56 PM
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The sub doesn't really focus on women as your friends, the position is usually that you can't really tell apart women who are LTR oriented and women about to hit the wall acting like they were always LTR oriented, enough women can pull this off flawlessly and the men will never have an idea what their wives have done in their past. We can look at factors such as OLD to understand who is the average woman is interested in depending on her age, you can then look at the number of divorces and the %…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:45 PM
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Nah.. women really love money, especially in poorer countries, they will fuck like champs for it. So he is really content at the moment, and again he is in a much better situation than 99.9999% of married men his age and with each coming year his position will better compared to his married peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:34 PM
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I don't have a biological imperative to be sexually validated, I have a biological imperative to spread my seed, and given that nature didn't really thought of modern economies and means of exchange, I have a relatively easy way to achieve my biological imperatives with attractive women. If you are unable to feel validation from any other aspect then that sounds pretty bad to me, but if it works for you that is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:12 PM
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So? let me tell you a secret, women select men who are financially stable for marriage as well, and you will be expected to spend money on your family as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 09:01 PM
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To each their own, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:59 PM
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Not sure about it, if they are now young and in debt and suddenly in need of lots of money, it is a temporary solution really, they might even major in a degree which will give them a very nice salary in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:57 PM
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Yes they most definitely do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:31 PM
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Yeah probably a lot more is going on behind the scenes that you don't see, I wouldn't be surprised that she is no longer physically attracted to him and they are not sleeping together. In a few years they would probably divorce, or he will discover that she is cheating. Her problems will come after the divorce, since men in her success level will be probably interested in attractive but less successful women than her, and so she will be competing with younger more attractive women and will proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:27 PM
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I wouldn't paint their lives as being that miserable, I don't believe emotional labor for them is that difficult, not really different than talking to their beta orbiters who want attention from time to time. Not really that different from a sales job if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:21 PM
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Sounds like she is emasculating him behind the scenes, I don't believe this is a normal, she probably began dropping hints or even something more pronounced
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:15 PM
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You can fuck someone discreetly without having to spend the whole night with them. So why do men want to talk & connect for the whole night when it's only about paying for sex? I don't know because they are bored, should they just fuck in silence? Men do want something that resembles a gfe, but that doesn't mean that they fool them selves that it is somehow real and not for money, and also it works both way since these men can terminate the services at any given time and switch to another woman.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:09 PM
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It took me about 10 years to get to this point, I was moderately successful with women, I don't have the genetics to become a chad perhaps a chad-lite, but in the end of the day I figured the things I am telling you now, in which money is the shortest route to high quality pussy when you get to be in your 30's. So again become a chad if you can, it will certainly benefit you, but I would start looking at your future as well, don't just burn your 20's away, do both sexual and social success as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:01 PM
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WTF are you even talking about, sugar babies are hot young attractive women who don't charge by the hour and give you a full night experience, if you actually believe that these men fool themselves into thinking that these women truly find them attractive and it isn't about the money? Of course everyone knows it is about the money, the point is that it shouldn't bother you at all, unless you are insecure and require female validation, in that case it is very clear why you will reject such a serv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:53 PM
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or example look at DiCaprio he constantly dates models how do you think he finds them Extremely high status with a 260 million USD net worth his a celebrity he can get into any party, especially with models and there his looks and charisma will do the trick. And like I said before why should I worry about the future I might die tomorrow anyway, you seem like the type of guy whose field with anxiety thinking about long term shit. What if you never become a sugar daddy?? Better succeed now than fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:46 PM
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Dude are you seriously saying that Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt at the age of 50 aren’t good looking?? Very good looking for the age of 50, especially Pitt, but can't compete with 20 year old hot men in any way, except for Pitt. And we are talking about fucking attractive women here, which means women in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:55 PM
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Prostitutes charge by the hour, and most men really want a full night of entertainment, these are somewhat different services. Guys who are sugar daddies are way too fucking pathetic not to care about women wanting them. Says who exactly, there are only one pathetic kind of men here, and that are men who need to be validated by women to the point that will fuck a disgusting land whale if it is for free. About time men departure from that degeneracy, it is very simple for mid 30's men and beyond …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:46 PM
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Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio are extraordinary rich, both can't be classified even close to being chads the way they are looking today, they are able to pull hot women due to their money and status. You do you man, just don't neglect your future going chasing after pussy, my point is that your 20's is a crucial decade which will shape your entire future, so besides becoming a chad you should look after your long term interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 06:26 PM
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Realistically speaking, I would say there is a cut of somewhere along the lines of 90% of men would be better of with SD and 10% would be better of in Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:04 PM
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You are perhaps correct, but be that as it may, most sugar daddies are average well of guys and most likely are not 8's or 9's, especially at their age. I don't believe majority of women are really attracted to these men, but again who gives a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:23 PM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:17 PM
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Most sugar babies have to be attracted to the man to have sex with him regardless. Don't believe I really buy into that, let's say they have to be not repulsed by him. I can easily imagine a situation in which sugar babies are not that into these men and are faking it all the way, but who gives a fuck, the point is that if you find her act believable enough and she is entertaining to you, then why should you give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:12 PM
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Yep.. modern men are facing an acute validation problem, it disorients them to a point in which they pursue irrational strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:00 PM
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Elaborate on that please. I mean how is self respect an issue here? and not you insecurity and need for female validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:25 PM
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I go on Tinder and other such apps because there's something more that I crave. I want to get laid, sure, but by someone who equally wants to get laid by me. I want to be desired and a sugar baby can never give me that. Maybe some men can lie to themselves and believe the facade sugar babies put on. I can't. Unlike you men who sugar daddy don't give a fuck about women wanting them, they are fine with women faking it to an adequate enough degree so that the whole thing is civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:22 PM
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You say it like relying on validation from women is a good thing, which is really puzzling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:18 PM
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Sex is sex, love is love, learn to tell the difference. I have little use for love, I want to sleep with young attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:17 PM
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The standards men have for sleeping with women is way lower than the other way. In any case both of these actions indicate choosing attraction over the option to receive commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:21 PM
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My point is that your argument in a way is similar to the argument betas and nice guys have towards younger women who prefer fucking hot men over accepting their commitment offers. so a girlfriend experience from a 20 year old is far better than having an actual girlfriend that is 40 years old, there is simply no way of deterring men or women from pursuing attractive people, arguments from any side, just seem as cheap persuasion tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:13 AM
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Don't underestimate the incentives such women have to please their customers, I know a dude who is not good looking and he is banging hot chicks who are doing chad level shit with him, arguably he finds women in non western countries, but still beats 99.9999% of married men his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:47 AM
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I don't understand what is wrong with prostitution, it is a kin to women chasing chads for a decade, the thrill of sleeping with attractive men compensate over them not giving a fuck about you. Prostitution is the same, at ages 35 and over it is literally choosing attraction for a woman over a woman who offers commitment, it is really close to what women are doing when they are younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:39 AM
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You didn't exactly answer it since the context here does matter a lot, but you are correct delving on this is not important at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:31 AM
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That aside, if you’re asking about why the average woman judges men who use pros, the answer would be that it’s viscerally disgusting. The idea of a man who has to pay for it vs earning a woman’s genuine lust is up there with the visceral disgust men have for sluts No I actually wasn't asking about that since the hidden assumption here by women is that men who go to escorts are doing it because they can't find anyone who will be willing to sleep with them. The actual reality is that escorts and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:24 AM
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Clearly I don't care the slightest of you judging me, but yet I am curious on how you rationalize this to yourself. So what makes a man pursuing such a strategy a low value man to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 02:04 AM
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And yet the data is showing women becoming progressively more miserable since the 70's, sounds like you are imagining things were worse for women then they actually were, at least for the average woman that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:46 AM
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I still don't understand this nonsense, can you please explain to me why isn't it the rational behavior to pay for a hot 22 year old when you are 40 than to have a 40 year old woman for free? And if it is rational, then how does a man pursuing this strategy is low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:33 AM
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Ok then, but notice that there are no shortcuts, if you do acknowledge the importance of money when you are in your 40's either to raise a family or becoming a sugar daddy then you can't really make an either or choice in your 20's. So becoming a chad shouldn't come at the expense of your future career, it's not just a who gives a fuck about money when I am a chad attitude, it should be both short term and longer term goals and you pursuing them concurrently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 01:16 AM
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Did you just create your own definition of what a cuck is?? Your definition of a cucks isn’t the true definition of a cuck you’re literally creating your own definitions😂😂 A cuck is a man who’s wife or girlfriend is unfaithful simple as that. If your girlfriend or wife cheated on you then you got cucked, and if you aren’t aware of it then you’re a cuck in the present tense. And a cuckhold is a man that likes watching his wife/girlfriend have sex with other men. Ok so under you definition a sugar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:53 AM
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You are still very young so that explains your point of view. A cuck is almost always a beta man deciding to marry a post wall woman, so if said woman is 35 the cuck hence pays for 5 years of decent looks if there are any left with a credit of 50 years ahead. A sugar daddy can't be a cuck since he is purchasing a service with a given rate from which he can easily back off, it is not different than paying to any other service provider. Your main problem is that you couple your self worth and vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 12:02 AM
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I find the notion that I should prefer a 40 year old woman who is attracted to me, to a hot 22 year old who is faking her affection ridiculous. In fact I find it as ridiculous as nice guys saying to women that are busy chasing chads that they should pick them because they are nice not like the chads who are douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:54 PM
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Don't believe it represents reality, statistics shows that young women cheat at a similar rate as young men if not at a higher rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:51 PM
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I believe there are too many sub groups of men that each has a different source of anger. There are two main distinctions, depending usually on age. The first one comes from the realization that most women are degenerate, in that they select for the worst qualities in men, which would of make sense in a primitive low trust society, but is extremely counter productive in a high trust society which relies on peaceful cooperation, so you can see lots of men who start acting like assholes and see mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:47 PM
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A simp is a bottom tier man, but what makes simps pathetic are not their physical or social attributes. The most pathetic thing about them is their underlying psychological weakness, simps will try to purchase the fantasy of being able to date a woman they are attracted to, while they fully know that it will never materialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:46 PM
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Men giving women advise is as stupid as women giving men advise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:17 PM
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They care because the majority of guys in TRP are stupid enough to want to get married, that is why debates on n-counts always assume that we are talking about marriage. As a MGTOW I have an interest for the society to keep going for long enough so I won't experience any major economic depressions in my life time, so even though I am not planning of marrying myself, there are plenty of stupid idiots who will besides all the contrary available information. So not every defense of n-counts is comi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:56 AM
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It is supply/demand like anything the only way there won't be price inflation is if there would also be an influx of women wanted to do sex work. If you eliminate porn from the world, there would most definitely be an influx in prices
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 11:47 AM
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If all the incels would rush to prostitutes now, it would inflate the shit out of prices
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:21 AM
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Good question, I believe the sex industry didn't really experience a boom, most guys tend to get hooked on porn instead, which is good news for you since it keeps the prices down
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:00 AM
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I'm not a carousel rider bc I'm not. I'm n-2 and haven't had sex in 2 years lol So that might also contributed to the response you got, these friends were some what interested already, they did see you already as an option and waited for a signal. You say this like it's some kind of revenge fantasy. I don't want and avoid RP men, why should I care if they'd filter me out? It is not a revenge fantasy, filtering out women who get pumped and dumped continually is very rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:46 PM
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You are still too young to be regarded as a carousel rider, so you are probably correct that is the savior complex or something similar, but you trying to pull this shit in your 30's will never work, you will be seen as a train wreck, age is very important in this aspect. Also you have found something that is somewhat true about men in general but women don't really care about since they are bombarded with demand in any case. When you expose your vulnerability to men it has the opposite effect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:04 PM
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Because chads and famous actors are blue pilled, they never needed TRP in the first place, good example is what happened to Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp in the end, they are actually quite naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:27 PM
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I disagree. I think they see the starkest, harshest version of reality there is. A version that more fortunate people will never have to see, and if they ever did, they would end up in a padded room at best or hanging from a rope at worst. This is not reality, that is some sort of degenerate nu-culture formed after the 60's in which men convinced them selves that what constitute manliness is competing in a rigged market for female validation. It is not your goal in life as a man to compete for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 10:18 PM
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Come on man, you don't realistically think that incels are a large enough and important enough group to save the civilization. And even assuming this doesn't happen, many incels have the potential to make great contributions to society, but they refuse to for the exact same reason. These incels have only one major problem in their life, and that is that they are crippled without the validation of society and women, what they don't realize is that there is only one thing in life that is worth cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:39 PM
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Once women tighten the sexual market it is basically up to them, if it would become really difficult for chads to find casual sex they would have to offer commitment, does it sound plausible? not really unless the average marriage age drops to early 20's. I personally don't believe women will be able to tighten the sexual market without abandoning the notions of feminism or at least parts of it, they would have to return to slut shaming and basically disown women who break the social contract, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:51 AM
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The notion that men somehow will convince women that their choices are not correct is ridiculous. You don't like how the modern dating market operates, no problem, short LTR and marriages and go long on satisfying your short term pleasure while reducing your risks, that is all there is to it, let others worry about morals and choices while you are doing the best for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:36 AM
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Well then you answered your own question, a functioning society relies on creating the proper incentives for men and women to be productive members of it. When you say that you want to be free to fuck who ever you want up until the point you panic and settle for a betabux, this strategy is very rational on your end, and everything would of kept working as it used to if it weren't for the internet. Since men now have knowledge of your strategy and the social fabric and stigmas have evaporated for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:01 AM
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It won't be reversed, men and women will simply go their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:53 AM
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Not much will change, since the problem that young men are facing is primarily a validation problem and not a lack of sex problem, on a purely rational standpoint escorts offer a significantly better deal to the majority of men, but the majority of men are not rational, at least not yet, maybe in a decade or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:50 AM
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There is basically no problem aside from the cynical use of betabux providers once you hit the wall, in any other case there is no real problem. I believe that all the anger around women riding the cock carousel is about that one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:56 PM
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Simps would love to, pickmeishas date attractive men, and simps are bottom tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 09:13 PM
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That is not just my opinion, men find women to be the most attractive at age 22 on average, at 40 this is almost double that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 11:54 PM
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You are talking about a rare occasion, by and large a woman's age is a proxy for her attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:52 PM
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It is a hard sell given that the sexual market indicates the wishes of the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 08:40 PM
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Everything involving two or more parties is a bargain in the end of day, men have less romantic instincts today than 70 years ago, due to the fact that romantic instincts doesn't make you wet, more likely than not sociopaths would make you wet over romantics. The problem begins and end with degeneracy embedded in most women on a biological level, this degeneracy rewards men for counter intuitive behavior to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:12 PM
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Your biggest problem I believe is that you are very conservative in your romantic outlook on life, but probably very liberal in every other aspect and also probably live in a very liberal area. Personally you would be much better suited living in a more conservative environment, since most people buy into the ideas of leftism wholesale, this generates a highly unfavorable environment for someone like you who is constantly underbid by other women offering sex without many barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 01:22 PM
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What kind of asinine argument is that? Women have the right to choose an occupation which doesn't endanger others, which includes porn. The rest of your examples are criminal activities that directly endanger others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 01:05 PM
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Why? two things can be true at the same time, even three things here. Women are free to pursue any occupation which doesn't endanger others. E-Thots are scum that exploit bottom tier men. Simps who pay for their service are pathetic bottom tier men who are embarrassment to men all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 01:02 PM
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Only for idiot men, if you want to pay for women only do it for short term duration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 04:56 PM
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Men don't think of things in terms of what potentially women enjoy, there is also no observable way of knowing it in any case. The only observation that could be made is to see which types of men do women reward with sex and try to imitate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:06 PM
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Right on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:03 PM
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Myself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:03 PM
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because men copy other men who are successful with women, this strategy does seem to work for a lot of men, lots of men here stated that when they began acting like assholes their success with women improved. It might be related to the fact that women took it as a proxy for confidence, but men use what works basically and abandon what doesn't, being nice used to work quite well 70 years ago, now it doesn't since it telegraphs lower status and men are abandoning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 12:36 PM
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I don't understand what the words natural or normal means, a women's promiscuity serves as a proxy for risk for men, a woman's age at the age she decide to settle down determines her value to the man, a good indicator that I use is 40 - the age of marriage, so if a woman decides to settle down at 35 she has 5 years of decent looks to give for instance. Men are simply saying that investing into women today is a very poor choice considering the deal that men in the past generations were given, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:32 PM
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Sex for pay to the extent that most men want it is very expensive if one chooses the option of prostitutes. That depends on your sex drive, I still believe that if incels can survive without pussy their whole lives, even once a month should of made a huge difference on their quality of life if the actual issue was a shortage of sex. But the actual issue is not a shortage of sex, it is a shortage of validation. Nowadays, some men get lots of free casual sex, while for others the only options are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:50 PM
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I don't really get such posts, from my discussions with lots and lots of men on PPD they primarily want one and only thing if they are willing to admit it or not, and that is validation and to be placed in a high position in the male hierarchy. Basically most men want to be able to reap the benefits of a casual sexual culture but that’s impossible since women only find small percentage of men attractive enough for casual sex, so to fix this problem historically societies have had prostitutes, br…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 05:10 PM
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This carousel very one is referring to... it’s not like I’ve never had fulfilling relationships with nice guys that I enjoyed having sex with. I don’t understand this strong associative dichotomy like women are either cyclically having their heartbroken, or found a nice guy so they are just gonna settle down and get married forever. Of course it is possible to get Alpha Bux as well, but it doesn't happen for most women, most women don't usually succeed in finding men they are attracted to who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 10:23 PM
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You want to elaborate further on that maybe? why don't you tell me how is it possible to exploit a man paying for short term encounters?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 08:37 PM
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I don't really care that much about the cons and pros of men approaching women in the public I must say, I am willing to grant you the benefit of the doubt that what you say about it is correct. What I was simply pointing to is a simple fact, let's say I am a reasonably well of men in my 30's and I have two options: Pursue a woman my age and jump through various hoops as you have talked about in the goals of getting married. Either continue playing the field or start paying escorts. Not let's ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:39 PM
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This is a weird take, if you now take your cash move to Mexico and start fucking 20 year olds for $, are you being used and exploited?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:24 PM
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Money and not giving a fuck solves all women related problems
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:20 PM
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No deal, your value diminishes exponentially after mid 30's, only an idiot would tie himself to a mid 30's carousel rider, there is no other way to put it. Let's be market competitors instead, usher in a new age of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:26 PM
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Stop deflecting women's degeneracy on to men, casual sex is the choice of the average woman due to the delay of the marriage age by a decade and the pursuit after a small subset of attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:37 AM
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No one gives a fuck about what women say, only what they actually do, or specifically who they choose to reward with sex. TRP tries to mimic the traits of men who women reward with sex, your advise therefore is close to useless, there is no need for you to give advise at all, all that is needed for men is to watch other men who are successful with women. The advise that you had given is just a rationalization of what women believe they want but again it is a very crude measure and the best thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:30 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:25 AM
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Yep mid 30's, from some late 20's. SMV starts to tank and you just feel the ride is over, for few there is a happy ending which could still end up as a disaster. For others it is just accepting mediocrity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:43 AM
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it’s just the rates and probability of these things being true are much higher. Especially when you consider the fact that average salary for these people is pretty low. Especially with porn if you consider the drug incentive it makes a lot more sense why women would risk their futures for low wages. The problem is that it is very hard to determine the actual cause of being suicidal, is it hereditary? is a product of drug use? or is it a combination of several factors. What I can show you is wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 01:02 AM
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Correlation does not mean causation, it is possible that an already vulnerable subset of women are drawn to prostitution because it allows them to earn much higher wages than the average one and if you ban it you will just put them in higher danger taking much more risks than they could be exposed to otherwise. There are also several healthy young women who would like to earn much higher wages at younger age and are fine with having sex for it, I don't see any legitimate reason to interfere with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:37 PM
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Reclassify yourself as fast as you can
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:26 PM
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Being capable of achieving orgasm with someone you know is only there because you paid them is rapey as fuck Technically it is much less rapey since the consent is given via a transaction, compare it to the regular Tinder pump and dump from which most women do not orgasm. A man who doesn't require enthusiastic, freely given consent for his sexual gratification is a very dangerous man. Why? Do you require your masseuse to be gratified in giving you a massage?Do you require the cashier to be grati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:23 PM
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I don't see anything wrong his argument, why is it ok to pay for a massage and not find someone who will give it for free? Why is it ok to pay for any service provider and not do it yourself or find someone who will do it for free? The argument is very solid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:19 PM
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Why would a woman marry someone she just not crave? Because she is unable to, she is stuck alone with mediocre paycheck at best with no prospects of raising a family, desperation can drive people to do desperate things, which includes settling for attraction. Not saying women marry men who they find ugly, just average and marginally fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:00 PM
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TRP has a saying that fits in very well here: women are attracted to the way men make them feel. You will get the strongest desire from women not from looking desirable, but from making her feel desirable. That shit is RP advice? sounds like a BP advice to me, so tell me this, shouldn't simps be swimming in pussy then? because they are willing to send women shit load of money just to have a shot of talking to her, shouldn't this make her feel desirable more than any other thing? When a woman bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 01:09 AM
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I can't take your word because the data doesn't support it, if women were attracted to men in a similar proportions as men were attracted to women, Tinder and OkCupid and the other apps would not look as they do now. It is very clear that women are much more selective in terms of physical attraction, not sure regarding the friends you know, but the marriage rates should drop even further to support the notion that women marry men who they are attracted to. When about 20% of women will marry then…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:52 AM
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I have no idea why all of you assume that your friends will actually admit that they are marrying a man they are not attracted to, of if they are even aware of the fact and not repressed it under but he is a good guy rubric. You also need to take into account that when you marry a man that you are only marginally attracted to, in a couple of years you will not be attracted to him any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:45 PM
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Large, I would say with marginal attraction is at least at 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:40 PM
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Hypothetical kid, I don't and never will have children
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:43 PM
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Women very rarely win these wars, they either are smart enough to realize they are being pumped, or they don't and get burned, the ones who win will win when he is in his 30's and on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:25 PM
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Possibly men want better looking women for commitment at higher rates, the ones who look worse are stuck in a loop of sex that isn't going any where, but Sweden is a totally different in many aspects, so who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 09:02 PM
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Don't know about you, I would rather my kid be a gamer than her being passed around by chads in parties, again it doesn't seem to me that you should be complaining about it, I bet lots of father would trade their daughters for a nerdy gamer in a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:47 PM
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I mean, they wouldn't have to tell. I'd know if mine had a life. I get that I don't have a cool kid, and she's pretty conservative and lame - but that seems to be everybody I know's kid. Or their nephew, or little brother or sister, or whatever. You sound like you would rather her being backdoored by Tyrone, jesus fuck man, count you blessings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 08:21 PM
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Only confused BP men believe that being nice in and on itself is an effective strategy in order to get laid, any one with even a little bit of RP knowledge knows otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:08 PM
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You need to make a distinction between men who were successful with women in their 20's and men who were not that successful in the first place. You are probably correct regarding the first category, the second category peak at their mid 30's because their financial situation improves and they are harvested for their resources by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:37 PM
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Not all that surprising considering that this is exactly what is currently happens with Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:04 AM
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Haven't been following all of this drama, what has happened to TERFs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:34 PM
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The gateway to relationships goes through sex, so to the extent that OLD gains more popularity so does the value of men decline, at least until women begin to seek BB
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:15 PM
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Think about it, if men didnt give women so much attention and options we wouldt have the pick of the lot & we would be forced to fuck guys in our league. Or go monk, it is not conclusive. Your argument is correct though, men drive their own value to zero basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 11:36 AM
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WTF are you on about? do you really believe young women fuck 50 year olds on a non marginal basis over young chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:10 AM
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I imagine the incentive to raise good children is still there. The only thing that is probably holding this institution together, the amount of women who are fine being childless seems to be also increasing rapidly though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:37 PM
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Agreeable men are more attractive to women than disagreeable ones? never heard of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:57 AM
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I believe you wanted to paint the decline of our culture into a hedonistic and shallow culture that chases casual and meaningful sex. You also paint casual sex as profoundly inferior to sex with feelings involved. I can see your points, and I guess I want to dig deeper, how that this unravel? and why do we keep going in the same direction if most people are harmed by this in the end for 70 years? If we had a good working system and now it is basically shit, shouldn't the process have been revers…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:32 AM
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I've been lurking around online lately and some guys have been giving me advice that I should come off more masculine in my interactions with women at all times, and avoid speaking about my issues because it ruins the perception they'd have of me. If you are complaining to your gf on even a semi constant basis you are probably on your way out, women don't like men who show weakness, they could love it if once in a while you show your sensitive side, but not in a constant manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:44 AM
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I believe you are romanticizing sex, all the evidence points to the fact that there is a novelty effect in which sex feels great at first and then the excitement starts to decline, nature hasn't exactly designed us for monogamy. Monogamy has probably prevailed because it is a stable system that grants men motivation to be productive members of society, and for women the ability to raise a family while the men acquire the needed resources. Through out all history I believe people were drawn to ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:42 AM
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Nope I am man, not a chad, and wouldn't change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:30 PM
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I believe women need to move from an environment they are being watched by their parents in order to ride the carousel full throttle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:27 PM
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You are going too far back in time with regards to the western civilization, I don't believe that in the generation of my grand parents, men viewed women as slaves, I am sure they held sexist views, but not to the point that they regarded women as property. Take the dowry custom. It was only phased out relatively recently. You have someone who is essentially sold to you, who was legally bound to you without much ability to leave until as recently as the 70s, who you were allowed to rape until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:37 PM
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It is a weird take, since when do you need to act nice to a property? do you believe that masters brought flowers to their slaves? The way men act to women has nothing to do with masculinity, there is only one factor affecting this behavior and it is what types of men do women reward with sex. This is the only thing pretty much that shapes how men treat women, if women on average are degenerates then it shouldn't come as a surprise that men will adopt degenerate ways
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 12:49 PM
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Men in the past were much more masculine, and yet blue pilled ideas had come from their generations, things that today no one would take seriously: - Be a gentlemen - Bring flowers to the date - Open doors for women In today's climate this would never fly, so how do you explain this discrepancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:38 AM
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I think alphas marry eventually, probably at a higher rate than betas. I'm not saying it would happen in one generation but slowly I feel like we are gradually feminizing men. Not sure why masculine men rob you the wrong way, the problem you have with men today have nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with dumb feminists not understanding basic market dynamics, that is if we even have a problem, maybe women are quite content with the modern dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:27 AM
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I don't want to come insensitive, since I actually do have sympathy for women like you, there was another girl posting before with a somewhat similar story, I do believe that if you say straight out in the dating profile that you are sexually conservative and looking for someone similar that there will be men that will be interested, what I can't guarantee is if you find them attractive. In a counter intuitive way the more attractive you are the harder it will be, because for average and below a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:07 AM
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Right now, all I see is a huge mass of tryhard ““Alphas”” who want to fuck around in their 20s-30s. I don’t see the so called “Betas” anymore AT ALL. Good that means that MGTOW is much more successful than believed, at least on the operational level, I don't see anything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:49 AM
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You're contradicting yourself here...if you're not miserable being by yourself, why would you stay in a stagnant marriage? No contradictions, I said only for the sake of kids, originally I said that if you are not planning to have kids you should stay single. I said that if you are reaching 60's I don't believe the benefits of being single are all that great compared to staying in that relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:04 PM
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Even in that case your kids are gonna grow up and move out eventually...which then puts you in more or less the same position as the childfree couples. What then? By that age you have missed the train really, you are most likely close to your 60's your are no longer young by any stretch of imagination, I don't see any upside of leaving a relationship in that age really. Without children, the incentive I see is to just build a lifelong partnership, to know another person almost as fully as I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:59 PM
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So you'd rather stay longer in an unhappy relationship because of kids Not unhappy per se, not if I am miserable, but I certainly would stay in a stagnant and boring relationship for the sake of the kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:15 PM
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Depends on the partner I guess, in a world where the majority of men are closer to BB than AF and you decide you don't want children, your incentives of choosing BB is much lower, so I guess if you are able to lock down AF in a childless marriage then it is one thing, but I don't believe it will be true for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:11 PM
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Hate to break it to you but even relationships with children in them have a possibility of failing. Sure, but relationships tend to stagnate with time, we are not truly built for monogamy, if children are not involved the likely hood of staying in a relationship diminishes over time in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:08 PM
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Never had understood it, I don't see any incentives for men to stay in relationships if they don't want children, but for each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:06 PM
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I don't see why these women are not going their own way, there are no incentives on staying together if you don't want any children, relationships will probably fail down the line and it is better to stay single and enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:37 PM
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It is only when women become equal earners, that the success differential in relationships will disappear. Women becoming equal earners will pretty much doom the average woman's romantic life, the reason is simple, women prefer men who earn as much as they do or out earn them, and are also much more selective in terms of physical attraction. That mean that a large amount of women will find them selves in the position that they are unable to find men who they think are a match that are willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:59 AM
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I don't think there is any strategy for women that can work given the selectivity that FDS seems to favor, there are maybe 10% of men that meet their criteria and I am being very generous here it is much less in reality, so even if their strategies are highly successful there are not enough men to meet the demand. It is not a solvable problem in a monogamous society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:44 AM
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Let's leave monogamy aside for now since I am not a proponent of monogamy for men at this point in time. So this problem for bottom 80% is not solved by the commune the return of an equal amount of labor from their part will earn just a fraction of love that the top 20% receive. So your solution could be relevant for top 20% of men and top 50% of women let's say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:47 PM
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But the hottest women would also get the most men lol. But the distribution will be similar to what we have in OLD, at least top 50% of women will have access to top 10% of men and top 20% of men will have access to top 20% of women, so how would you equalize that gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:35 PM
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To me monogamous relationships are about control, and insecurity. The more people you can love in the world the better. Why does this need to be exclusive? For a woman it probably secures a man's resources to raise her children and support their family. I don't have any knowledge of hippi communes to know if there is an alternative stable way of raising children, but communism has certainly been a dumpster fire which leads me to believe that only a small percentage of humans are able to share th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:24 PM
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BB is relative to your geographical location, it is not absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:12 AM
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Quite frankly I really don't want to get with guys that sleep around. I think it's unfair to blame men's actions on women's preferences. Blaming is not that interesting to me actually, if an owner refuses to lock his door and get's robbed, do you blame the owner or the robber? the robber is of course behaving in a non moral way, but the interesting question is why the owner refuses to lock the door. It is quite clear to me on what happens with men, there is a small percentage of top tier men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:41 PM
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Perhaps you are right, then you are the one to gain since men are not that aware that they need to hide their history from women to that extent, so it is easier to filter these men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:00 PM
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