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I read some where that the government spends more money on old people than children. I would support reversing this trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:07 AM
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I listen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:02 AM
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What percent of the comments do you estimate on here are pure dishonesty, disingenuous, or disinformation. I am referring to made up anecdotes or stats, misinterpretation of stats, or men speaking in the voice of women (or vice versa).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:17 PM
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If that were true, this place wouldn’t exist. Women have agency and standards. Maybe your point used to be true but it’s clear from the women here: they d rather be childless and single than with a less than perfect partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:10 AM
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It’s not so much that they annoy me. It’s that after my divorce, I’m never going to be able to have another romantic relationship. Things start well, then the PTSD comes back and I have to end it as quickly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:18 PM
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I used to be married and dating now legit scares the shit out of me. Anyone my age who is single has crazy baggage and anyone younger than me grew with social media on their phone and I am certain that has destroyed their minds. I have had the most success dating and sleeping with married co workers whose marriages are “just for the kids,” women i meet at my local coffee shop or gym I go to, or random women I know with through mutual friends. The first second we need to push through something, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:15 PM
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You answer my question first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:44 AM
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Ok. So you agree making a lot of money is the equivalent of being as attractive as the man in your picture, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:39 AM
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Assuming that’s true, would support come because that woman was born with mommy milkers, a tight waist, and a cute (things she was born with)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:32 AM
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Two reasons. First, these two people are largely born attractive features but also have things like a fast metabolism. So it feels like an unfair advantage. Second, most men are told that their behavior determines how successful you are with women. Another thing you need to know is that men like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:57 PM
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Most women would have sex with the man in your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:52 PM
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I feel like if this were true, you’d see more people “outside.” I think people just like the current state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:59 AM
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People have always liked the idea or fantasy of this more than the reality. From what I have observed, of the women who want kids, they only want them if it’s the only thing they have to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:58 AM
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I had a co worker tell me she thought I was married with kids. When I corrected her, she literally stopped talking to me at the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:40 PM
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That’s one view at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:33 PM
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Incels think that if they can get womens affection, that will solve some sort of problem. The reality of marriage is that there are all these arbitrary rules like less sex as you age that also create alienation.They don’t realize they trade one lonely existence for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:17 PM
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I do. They all joke that the sex “slows down” after marriage. Maybe half have kids. I do think if incels knew this, they’d be happier and less concerned with meeting women. That’s probably a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:54 PM
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I guess I’m happy you believe the world is that fair. I wouldn’t dare take that away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:10 AM
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The actual truth is that people are more alike than they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:58 AM
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I am looking to bear witness to the pain and desolation of the modern dating world. This place is also entertaining. A great way to kill time between my soul sucking job and sports events I like to watch. Like reading deadbedrooms helped me realize married men were basically sexless, I appreciate that we all have a cross to bear. Very few of us find salvation and purpose in a relationships. The incels don’t know how good they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:40 AM
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It means he’s ugly. Not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:52 AM
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Now who is lashing out after being given the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:29 AM
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Well, I know why women don’t like me. I see the world too. But some women say, there’s someone for everyone. And others want to be honest. Women being consistent would solve so many problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:20 AM
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She reality is that your last paragraph reveals what actually upsets a lot of men. Being unattractive is hard enough. Short, broke, ugly, uncharismatic, and so on, are clearly things women do not like. But being an unattractive man means you are met with contempt and disdain by women. And being unattractive to women is a great way to be bullied by other men. There’s only so much you can say about a guy that gets laid. If unattractive men were simply told no, that’d be fine. Often times, what act…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:10 AM
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Ok. You’re entitled to your experience. So are we. I can’t speak for everyone but my experience women do have high bars for dates, sex, and relationships. Your best date was probably influenced how you felt about the attractiveness of the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:03 PM
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Two things can be true: attractiveness is the trump card and morals are important for leading a healthy, happy, and prosperous life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:33 AM
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If married women were dependably like this, you’d have a point. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:45 AM
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My solution would be to lower the stakes. No more expensive rings or weddings. Marriages can be ended immediately and with little friction. A lot the issue is that men feel like so much is asked of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:28 AM
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I just don’t believe porn addiction is real. I think a lot of are confused by how high mens libido is compared to them. This used to be understood by gender differences and testosterone. Thats not fashionable anymore so people just say porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:15 AM
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So, if you’re attractive, dating is easier. Which is always the case. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:04 PM
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So, you’re saying it’s just a matter of degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:06 AM
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You’re at least on Reddit, which is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:58 AM
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That does mean it’s not true. You are being fooled so that some company can tell advertisers how much time you spend on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:36 AM
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We all love sluts. I won’t berate you. Sluts, if you’re reading this, I pro your cause and will not berate you (assuming you’re a slut for me, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:13 PM
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It’s the information is clickbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:00 PM
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This is a non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:34 PM
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What you see on social media depends on what makes you angry and therefore keeps you on the app. Your knowledge of men is the equivalent of what Qanon supporters know about the US civics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:51 PM
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We aren’t going backwards. There is no better dating. What we have now is what will continue and expand. I am optimistic that AI will alleviate loneliness and allow more people to live lives that give them meaning and purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:48 PM
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It’s not incredible. They’re selling hope to the hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:38 PM
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It’s why you have people like Andrew Tate. I know people think they’re helping men but what a lot of young men hear is 1) you’re not good enough as you are and 2) you’ll know you’re enough when you have as much sexual success as you want. I don’t know if there is a way to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:06 PM
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This sub is light years away from real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:35 AM
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So if I’ve been rejected by women who say I’m too ugly for them, why are they wrong and you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:09 AM
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Do you think your opinion is influenced by the fact that you model?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:57 AM
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OP, have you ever tried dating a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:50 AM
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Lesbians statistically have the least amount sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:28 AM
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If only the world was that simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:27 AM
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Well, it’s important for men to understand that a wife and marriage does equal sex. The sad truth is that your wife is still a woman. She finds you as a attractive as the average woman does. This used to be something men just had to accept but times have changed. There are a lot of good reasons to be married but in reality, the only way to handle a deadbedroom is to accept it or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:10 AM
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I’m pretty sure this term is defined in the literature and it’s more than 0. But this phenomenon has a specific definition and meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:01 AM
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According to the New York Post, “'Dead bedrooms,’ the buzzy new term for when couples in long-term relationships stop having sex, are on a zombie-apocalypse-like rise.” It cites a study that shows 69 percent of couples are intimate 8 times a year or less; 17 percent of those surveyed hadn’t had sex in a year or more. This is on the heels of research out of the University of Chicago demonstrating that between the late 1990s and 2014, sex for all adults dropped from 62 to 54 times a year on averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:49 AM
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It depends on how you define deadbedroom. Some define it as no sex. Others define it as averaging less than 4 times a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:42 AM
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I mean, I know people say this is just algorithms but this matches my experience. It is funny that I never see this brought up when men are behaving badly and women say things like, “it’s getting harder not to hate all men.” Maybe women’s perceptions of men premised on a corrupt algorithm as well. In my personal life, women are more resource aware than ever. My grandmas and aunts talk about it. Me ex said she wouldn’t get pregnant until we had a house. Older generations of my family had kids in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:58 AM
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I don’t like attention on me. I like women. I like sex. I like women’s energy and how they make names for everything. But 9/10, if a woman is giving her attention to me, I stress out and act out. I speak too fast or lose my train of thought, or say something strange or start moving and frightening. If I get to the dating or sex stage, the woman needs to be patient with me or lean into my awkward behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:08 AM
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I used to work with a woman who was a part time body builder. She was an open lesbian but wasn’t super butch. She told me a lot of sex workers were lesbians or at least bi. Apparently it is common for sex workers that serve mainly men to not be attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:29 AM
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There’s something to be said for giving people grace. She made her choices and has to live with them. But she did things on film that most people wouldn’t do in private. She’s not well. Whatever demons drove her to porn and kept her in that industry are not something anyone would want to be subjected to. She’s not emblematic of women probably. She’s a deeply tormented person who is counting down the days until she has to explain to her son why she decided eat vomit while having anal sex on video…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:10 AM
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If you actually go outside, you’ll see people don’t do that in random town centers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:12 PM
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This post was written by someone with minimal life experience. These grifters answer a question of, “why do so many women tell me I’m not good enough.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:52 AM
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Why would you assume random strangers are dating because they are standing next to each other? This talking point is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:49 AM
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The point is, I know better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:14 AM
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I get the impression a lot of these guys want women to confirm they want a tall man. Not one taller than them, but simply tall. They want to be told they won the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:53 AM
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“We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars and that we’d get dates with women because they didn’t care about looks or height and that personality and personal virtue mattered. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.” my father
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:50 AM
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Often times, your standing among other men is premised on how well you do with women. Being incapable of being able to date or even make women feel comfortable in your presence often precipitates the most harsh and brutal bullying men can inflect on each other. This is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:05 AM
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Every time I see average n count statistics, I’m surprised it’s not higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:17 PM
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I don’t think we know that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:20 AM
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I am not sure we know what the audience back then thought. And frankly, I think you mean neurotic or paranoid, not so much sexualized. Society today is more sexless where people have less sex than ever. I’m old enough to remember tv shows having more sexual innuendos. We might have more or easier access to nudity or pornography, but the media and culture was much more comfortable with sexual tension in tv and movies. Would the audience for this show have considered this sexual. Some would have. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:17 AM
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If you go to the AI subs, you’ll also see a lot of young women “dating” AI personalities. I think the focus is men because, there’s a belief that long term single men are some kind of ticking time bomb. I also think there’s this idea that women don’t have agency, if men get sorted women will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:17 PM
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Even guys who aren’t boob guys appreciate boobies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:56 AM
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You’re thinking too hard. The 80/20 rule just means in any given population there will be people who dominant in certain traits. Height, weight, propensity for for schizophrenia, intelligence, sexual libido, and so on. In other words, we are not gifted with the same amount of physical, mental, emotional traits. just like there are a finite number of people with the ability to play in the NBA, given their natural born traits in terms of height and athleticism, the same is true is terms sexual att…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:45 AM
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Yes, with the caveat that money, then status, then personality can overcome physical attractiveness deficits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:49 AM
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Women derive validation for their expectations from men in very surprising. I knew a girl who was about 250 pounds. Obese by any measure. Kinda crazy. To her credit, she knew how to dress to hide her weight but show off her enormous boobs. If she fucked one hot guy a year, she took that as validation she could fuck a ton of hot guys and would eventually land a hot guy. So your friends aren’t delusional. We covet what we see. I would bet money they know a guy that matches their high standards. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:28 AM
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In todays world, where women work, they would choose the six foot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:40 AM
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No. Those women aren’t going to tell you anything that would impede your pleasure. What your missing is how to engage in a give and take. Some girls like minimal friction, some girls like deep strokes. Some girls like you touch them one way, other girls don’t. It’s possible you never learned how to read body language, how to tasks information in the throes of passion and adjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:21 AM
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You say the drives of this are societal changes. Do you see those drivers slowing down in the future? Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:53 AM
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OP freaky and honey as hell for thinking up such a graphic image of being penetrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:42 PM
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I finally figured out what this place is. It’s a cope. No matter your gender, ideology, experience, etc. this place can mask your apathy. The cope is this: the people here don’t want a spouse, or kids, or to start a family, or grow their current family, but they/we cannot admit it. There’s still something internal that says we should want those things but there I guilt over not feeling that way. So, we must externalize our feelings. Someone, or something, is causing us to feel this way. As human…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:05 AM
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It’s fairly clear a lot of the self identified women on this sub do not have much relationship experience either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:49 PM
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The age gap discourse is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:48 PM
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I agree with the overall point of this post but I think it goes both ways. Most marriages are not occupied by oafish men leeching the life force out of their wife. Most men take fatherhood seriously and help out, as they always have. Many men, if not most nowadays, cook and clean. In fact, marriage is fun most of the time. Men aren’t looking for some crazy supermodel level girlfriend. Men are not porn brained, if that means anything. Scary men are real but the vast majority of men that women enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:02 PM
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The classic dad trope you cited does not,and has not ever existed in reality. It is a tv invention and something the internet somehow sustains.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:53 AM
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You should not get married if you need internet strangers to explain why you should get married. Furthermore, you said little about yourself so no one could make the argument if they tried. That said, it is interesting you say you don’t care a bunch, and wrote this long ass post. Do you even know what you want from life? You’re all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:14 AM
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They like hearing my opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:01 AM
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High standards does mean good. In this context high means selective or narrow. My answer to any of these questions is always the same. Fewer women want to be married with kids. Therefore, they can be more and more selective. And frankly, a lot of men seem utterly ignorant of how many women would not get married and not have kids than lower their standards. In other words, it does not matter womens standards are, what matters is that there is no penalty for not compromising.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:08 PM
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Straight women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:41 PM
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If you do not agree with the stat. Do you agree with its principle that women generally find a relatively small group of men attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:03 PM
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It’s the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:00 PM
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The lie evolutionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:22 PM
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We don’t much about this guy. Is he rich? Is he tall? But you’ve made a hell of an argument for passport bros…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:51 PM
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They just told you they did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:25 PM
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I largely agree. Move on. But that does leave one question: why? Why did society lie about this and then continue to lie? What’s the end game? The answer has to be something sinister, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:24 PM
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Maybe. Are people really that different?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:14 PM
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You made a post about what men like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:46 PM
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Well you hid the ball here. You wanted to discuss the merits of this idea, but couched in people’s reactions to the idea. Men don’t like that, especially if they’re in an argument. Some even refer to this as gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:23 PM
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It sounds like you disagree with their theory. Is the theory itself accusing women of being shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:17 PM
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Do you agree that women only view 5-20% of men as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:12 PM
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People are angry that this truth is being denied. Not the truth itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:10 PM
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Are they mutually exclusive in a lifetime?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 03:01 AM
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Are these two things mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:37 AM
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Contrarian internet culture is dumbing us all down. It’s completely normal to want to be attractive to the opposite sex, love someone and be loved, and to recreate ourselves. It’s weird people disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:25 AM
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When I was a kid, there was this fucked up family in the neighborhood. The brother would fight and steal all the time. Well, me and my brothers would find him and take our bikes, shovels, dad’s lawn mower, etc back. Every neighbor with kids dealt with this kid. His sister would claim that we also said or did bad things to her. Each time it was a lie. What really got me was that the neighborhood and school moms never took it seriously. They’d listen to her story, ask a few questions, then close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:17 AM
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Living abroad for a long time, I noticed that a lot of women in non western countries view marriage primarily as a tool with a function. It produces stuff, from better income prospects to children. I think a lot of western or American women view marriage as a brand or personal statement. Not that one is better than the other or that these things are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:43 PM
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It can be. But what if one person was married to a spouse who died? Or the person used to think pre marital sex was ok, but thinks different now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:34 PM
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None of these are exclusive to using birth control for an active sex life. I don’t care why women use birth control. But the formation of this argument thoroughly lacks persuasive power because none of these activities are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:05 AM
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That’s my problem with both pills. A few weeks ago I saw a thread on another sub where women talked about the crazy stuff they’d did to hook up with a hot guy. That seems consistent with what I’ve seen in my life. I was roommates with a few athletes in college, most of the times they got laid, they were being aggressively or subtly solicited. Let’s be real: women approach and can be aggressive if they like a guy enough. Men can and should approach too but if women aren’t dropping subtle hints or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:51 AM
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Maybe you should stop hanging with dishonest people. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:29 PM
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It’s true. Find honest people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:15 PM
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In my opinion, the best way to understand preference is that it narrows your room for error. The shorter you are, the more money you need to make, or have an insanely good sense of humor, or have completely good charisma, etc. The caveat is that have to be attributes not easily attained. So you can overcome being short but you’ll need a dramatic pluses with money, personality, virtue, etc. And you’re just not going to get laid as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:07 PM
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It’s even more nihilistic than that I think. It’s not female validation that is the aim. It’s getting your own dick wet while also as little to,the vessel you are entering. That’s the end goal. That’s the point. A woman’s validation would at least require the consideration of another human, soul, and consciousness. For the redpill, everyone else is either a obstacle or a means to your own base sexual desires. You have to wonder about the merits of a society that allows that type of ideology to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:22 AM
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The rage and anger is about shocking men into motivation. That’s their argument at least. You won’t want to do the work without constant remainders by how vain and fickle women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:41 AM
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This is true but only about things that distinguish you immediately. Making your teeth perfect will help you. Nicer shoes probably won’t. A better physique will get you better results. A hair cut might also get you better results, although to a lesser degree. Wearing a polo more often will yield minimal results.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:09 PM
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Except the decades of socialization saying marriage and kids, must, needs to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:39 AM
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It’s too late. You need to tell that to men when they are kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:38 AM
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Why is that realistic depiction of reality, and not a weird anomaly? How do you know those situations are even real?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:01 AM
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Ok. We’re all weird but you’re the normal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:57 AM
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Relationships might be but their expression is probably culturally constructed. Of course humans have a need to social and connect with a larger group. The men you are talking to have likely been told having girlfriends, meeting your wife, having kids, etc. is inevitable. But if we told men from a younger age that certain defects will likely cause them to be deemed unattractive by most women, you would get a different response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:26 AM
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He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how. Honestly, I don’t think it would change their desires but men would spend less time on this issue. It seem less like an urgent issue. More guys would spend time learning guitar or learning an ancient languages. I think men would spend less time thinking, “what’s wrong with me.” And more time on, “what do I want from life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:42 AM
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I don’t think projecting is what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:00 PM
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Don’t you think there’s something to be said for the fact that women have agency. If you’re consistently deemed unattractive, there’s nothing wrong with finding social outlets elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:30 AM
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Every couple has a complaint, even if it’s just sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:29 AM
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Ok. There’s a benefit to taking time, at a courthouse or massive wedding venue, to stop and say, we are entering this marriage together. To memorialize this project of making two into one forever. We can still look back to ancient times and find the ancients’ versions of weddings and marriage. There’s value to not only this type of relationship but finding a way to say this in a way that outlives you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:28 AM
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Damn. Yours did chores. That’s wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:18 AM
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lol wives do not give blowjobs (to their husbands).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:17 AM
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The benefits are intangible. There’s a meme from the lord of the rings, “I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you.” Your wife, at least theoretically cannot carry your burdens, but from time to time, can carry you. Your wife can help hold you accountable, which makes you better person all around. Wives can bring you mental and emotional stability. It’s harder to get distracted by irrelevant stuff if you can narrow your focus to your wife and family, and institutions that support them. If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:15 AM
1

Really? It might be more comprehensive than that. I’ve been married before though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:47 PM
1

Ok but what are the features women are shopping for? I’m sure many men are complaining but a lot are just wondering what the market is telling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:35 PM
8

I can’t help but think this n count debate is more about men being worried about not getting every thing former partners got, plus a fear of cheating. Let’s say a girl had 100 partners but never turned sex and was down for anything. I suspect 9/10 guys would take that deal. Whether they admit or not. The fear is she has 100 partners, is down for anything, but in her LTR with her future husband, sex is a never ending struggle and she won’t agree to anything that is not missionary, because she wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:34 PM
0

Is dating difficult? That’s a premise you see a lot on here but I think there are lot of people who would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:02 PM
2

That’s not true anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:32 PM
4

Men with higher IQs prefer monogamy. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:59 AM
5

I want to wife up a thot and change her!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:41 AM
0

Some guys might even say, that what makes women fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:28 AM
3

Not to be a contrarian but I disagree. I think most people are just people. That just means they have limitations. They have limited patience. Limited stamina to listen. Limitless sexual libido. And so on. Excepting these limitations in yourself and then others used to be considered a virtue. But most of us care little for virtue or a relationship with one. We are looking for a consumer product that has more features than than similar products. This tweet is virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:16 PM
6

Women get blamed because when this topic comes up, women talk the political system, government, economy, racial disparities and similarly amorphous problems that cannot that have large and subtle nuances. It appears that you are saying, “we aren’t having kids until we fix problems humans have never been able to settle.” Men hear and think, “not fair these are never going away.” If you really want this conversation to end, just say you don’t want kids because you don’t want them. That ends the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:39 AM
1

Because
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:27 AM
1

Be abuse that’s viewed as a positive for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:08 AM
5

A surprising amount of women believe marriage means no more sex or vanilla sex forever. The man is effectively “stuck” with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:22 AM
5

Men on the internet, posting anonymously. No one cares in real life. In fact, I’d go so far to say you need to look for this opinion, even on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:49 PM
0

Theoretically anything is possible because deadbedrooms are caused by different things. In the end, if you are in a dead bedroom, your surest way of ending the dead bedroom is to leave the relationship. If you go over to the dead bedroom or even low libido subs, there are legions of women who say they’re husband left the marriage because they haven’t wanted sex in decade, only to find their libido has returned. In other words, the woman just lost attraction to their husband and nothing was ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:48 PM
0

I read somewhere about a trans man. He was shocked when he was standing next to an 18 wheeler when started it up. He found himself getting aroused. He couldn’t believe how often and quickly he became aroused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:53 PM
4

This reads like someone with a lot of anxiety and almost trying to explain to themselves why they are so stressed out and anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:36 PM
5

Karen’s prioritize their own sense of comfort and security over other’s dignity and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:51 PM
0

Tell that to black people or any other minority, women, and immigrants, working class people or anyone who is not a white man from a rich family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:47 PM
3

So, you think we are the first generation of people who have to sacrifice as parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:16 AM
9

Or, as people have more options, women specifically choose to have less kids because they don’t want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:23 AM
5

That was a small amount of people. Poor moms worked. Minority moms worked. Working class moms worked. You’re extrapolating the experience of upper middle white women to an entire society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:19 AM
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I’m not judging people for not having kids. We should drop this false idea women have a natural instinct to have kids. As the other poster stated kids are just are mainly a way to signal your lifestyle success at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:17 AM
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Housing will always be expensive. Student loans are less of burden now that they’re not all owned privately by banks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:15 AM
0

None of your friends are having new experiences. This is what it is to be a parent especially of a small child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:16 PM
4

None of this is new. You want to be a professional athlete, you need to practice. If you have kids, it will be expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:12 PM
1

They’re making a choice to not a have kid. Never in human history have kids been cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:08 PM
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In reality, theses are just rationalizations. People are making choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:04 PM
12

I used to think that too but then raising kids has always been expensive and time consuming. The two go together. Saying “I’d want kids if it were more affordable” is like saying, “I’d want to be an Olympic athlete but I don’t want to practice.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:53 PM
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Eventually, society will have to face up to the fact that large percentage of women , maybe even most women don’t want kids if they have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:47 PM
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In a lot of poorer and traditional communities, having children confers a lot of respect on the parents, especially the mom. There’s a political theory that the American government social services began with helping mothers. But fatherhood also confers a lot of respect. If you lack resources, having children is difficult but society considers you to have accomplished something important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:38 PM
1

You answer my question first.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:53 PM
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You’re 21 and know the true nature of all men? I wish I was so knowledgeable at your age. Any chance you’re pornbrained?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:34 PM
2

I remember about ten years ago, there was a notion that women would begin to succeed more in society because they have better soft skills. This means stuff like listening, cooperating, sitting still at a desk, communication, etc. The idea was that women were socialized for caretaking, but this socialization increasingly matched skills for the modern economy. I have begun to wonder if, since women are not socialized to be care takers anymore, do these soft skills go away or diminish. Or are they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:18 AM
4

They want to feel “chosen” and there is probably something innate about male validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:59 PM
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Yes. Can it overcome deficits on things like height, facial structure, crooked teeth, etc? Probably not. But it does add marginal value. Plus, you feel better when you look better. My advice: If you wear a tee shirt, avoid shirts with images or writing and wear a watch or bracelet. No baggy cargo pants or shorts. Clean your shoes. Figure out colors that work for you and feast on them. In fact, figure out color combinations. Button ups and polos are are low hanging fruit. Wear khakis more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:04 PM
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Define “looks”? Are we talking tall, in shape, great smile, etc.? When I was in college, I realized the men with the most success with women did not approach 100% of the time. If you’re a man with a certain level of attractiveness, women often and routinely approach you. Sometimes it’s subtle. Sometimes it’s fairly aggressive. I would argue, this is how attractive men learn how to approach: females from an early age approaching them. If you are lonely, it not just that you never approach. It’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:58 PM
1

Yea, that’s people for ya. Just be sure to pay it forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:16 AM
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I’m happy for you. If you’re this naive, why try to disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:13 AM
3

It’s not “women bad” it’s reality. You could say “men bad” for their libido not flatlining.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:26 AM
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People talk about “traditionalism” as being great for men but it’s pretty clear a lot of grandpas and dads were expected to end their sex lives after the grandma and mom stopped having kids. They hit 30 and boom, no more sex until they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:25 AM
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If you look at the low libido sub, this appears to be a natural evolution for women in monogamous relationships. There is probably nothing a man can do besides leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:17 AM
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They do. But they don’t care. Not in a mean way. Just, this is not their problem. So they don’t want to hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:28 AM
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Yes. With the prospect of children declining, men have less reasons to conform to historical pair bonding norms. That means everything from playing the field to raging on online against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:25 AM
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I guess I can’t help you. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:47 AM
2

Because people aren’t churches. Your faulty metaphor demonstrates consumerism has basically rendered other people into inanimate objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:02 PM
9

Ask whatever questions you like but resist with all your heart this kind of thinking. It’s clear many people believe they are essentially shopping for an item with the most desired attributes, not a human relationship based on five and take. It’s deeply poisoned thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:40 AM
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This is such a stupid question. First, the most important things a partner brings to the table are intangible. A sense of security, emotional and psychological stability, a reflection of the world and yourself, etc. these things cannot be quantified and look different to different people. Second, what you bring to the table can change with the partner you’re with. Your partner can bring out things in you that you can put into the relationship. This question makes me want to destroy the internet.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:00 AM
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The Reddit poster doth protest too much, methinks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:23 AM
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Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:08 AM
1

“Having money is not everything. Not having, is”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:50 PM
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Of course everyone would like a loving woman who cares about them and wants to be with them forever. That’s an increasing rarity. So what are the options? I’m sure there are many but one is using wealth to attract women for as long as your wealth can hold their attention. Then on to the next. As a wise man once said, “I don’t care why they’re here, I just care that they’re here.” Absent the perfect situation, we’re all selling something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 05:47 PM
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Anecdotally, I just don’t know if this is true. The one child policy was not enforced in the interior and away from heavy population centers. I met a lot people with large families with and everyone I met said they preferred girls to boys. I think that preference for boys probably ended decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:12 AM
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Are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:28 PM
2

This is the world as it has always been. You don’t want kids, that’s your right. Theres no reason to blame society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:23 PM
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Realistically, no one can guarantee a perfect pain free life. And if those are the stakes, you should put that decision off forever and probably never have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:55 PM
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That won’t change decades of conditioning and socialization. When I lived there, a lot of women said their bodies literally could not handle more than one pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:12 PM
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I’m not sure I trust these numbers specifically but China is different. Chinese women are looking for a man that is not only capable of creating one perfect child but that man also needs to be capable of producing a perfect life for that child. It’s a insanely high bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:20 PM
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Up until about 2012, casual sex, in my opinion was more evenly distributed in society. Ugly men and ugly women had more of a shot because there were more physical social interactions. Also, I think sex was viewed more like something that happens because right place, right time, so that’s what people worked on doing. Today we hear a ton about genetics, women’s psychology, etc. It’s like casual sex is something that is pre ordained or “supposed” to happen for some people, and cannot happen for oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:38 PM
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Womens high expectations have created a generation of learned helpless among men. If you are never given idea I’d what it means or looks like to meet a woman’s expectations, why bother? And indeed we are seeing record levels of suicide and men dropping out of society at younger and younger ages. Have the expectations you want, but your gambling in believing men will just be better. In reality, you’ve coerced them into giving up. I was in a marriage like this. It’s not fun being with someone who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 12:55 AM
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State encouraged serial monogamy where marriage licenses expire every 14 years. It’s free to get a new partner, but there a tax for re marrying. From 28-35 couples produce one child every 36 months, or they are taxed. Births and childcare are free. Kids and women with children are eligible for Medicare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:24 PM
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I agree we shouldn’t blame one group of people but I think it’s a fair observation that as women have been given more rights and economic opportunity, dating has changed and specifically become more competitive for men. You could say men need to up their game, but its not unreasonable to say women are most attracted to attributes that cannot be easily obtained or obtained at all. They must be genetically produced and rare. All this could be correlated to other changes in society, or maybe not. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:39 AM
1

I’d add two: unconcerned with her past; comfortable with her expressions of sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:18 PM
2

Which is offset by the lower student loan payment…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:14 AM
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We did not get along. She’s a lovely person and made me happy. In the end, we loved each other but could not stand each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:06 AM
1

I’m poor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:42 AM
3

When I was married, I literally did not know how much my wife made. Did not seem relevant to my life as she paid for almost nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:21 AM
1

I can’t remember what I wrote but I am pretty sure my last could have ended the gender war and created a baby boom. Fuck.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 12:01 AM
2

Let’s be real, fewer and fewer men will reproduce as time goes on. So it sides not matter. Women’s preferences are taking care of this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:22 AM
2

It strange to me how so many people can say someone daily lived life is just in their head. Somehow every short guy just invented this in their head. Weird.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 12:25 PM
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So the definition of a duck boy is someone who sends dick pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:08 PM
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Ok. I’ll take your word for that internet stranger. Great story.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:50 AM
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Women use the term like an insult but I’ve always understood them to be saying, “not only do you cause sex but I will sleep with you too even though I know you re dangerous.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:11 AM
1

Ok. We re all lying to annoy you. You figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:07 AM
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I wouldn’t say never. Just until you die. I had a psychology professor opine that women’s desire to have sex with you is based on if they want to recreate your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:45 AM
2

This goes for women too. The idea of a 5 man meeting up with a 5 woman is not based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:24 PM
7

This is like the male/redpill concern about divorce rape. In the real world, women/blue pillars do not cook as much their mothers and men did not grow up with the expectation that women cook for them. Same for house cleaning. Stop imagining problems you will never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:07 AM
1

I agree and I disagree. I agree that nothing has really changed. We are not living in a unique time in history. It feels good to say that because it makes us feel special and our decisions feel more considered, but the world has always been this way. With one exception: social media. Social media has changed the game in two ways 1) people don’t have to interact as much 2) peoples perceptions of others are more screwed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:04 PM
2

I think that depends on how good the sex is. And how good the food is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:10 PM
0

Is divorce bad? People here treat marriage like a negative. But it’s better to have triad and failed than to never have risked at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:02 AM
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We are living in a capitalist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:06 AM
1

Man, I wish i lived your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:52 PM
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It is striking that Angus Cloud, a normal if not ugly man, has some of the most attractive women in Hollywood releasing heart felt tributes to him. Maybe personality does matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:02 AM
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I think this “sexual market place value” talk is evidence of deep brain rot. The best benefits of being married are intangible and cannot be measured. I am deeply skeptical of anyone saying things like, “low/high value male/female” or “what do you bring to the table?” We should resist these weirdos!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:54 PM
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Anecdotally, while racism and bigotry exists everywhere, it’s not as bad as Americans think it is in foreign countries. I cannot say I have seen the world, but in my brief travels, black men and African men have been able to date and set up families. And if we’re being real the expectations are different in foreign countries compared to the US. You might say they’re less or just more straightforward and simpler.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:25 PM
3

Is “commitment minded” a euphemism for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:00 AM
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Society will have to face up to the fact that absent the perfect mate, most women would rather not reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:59 AM
1

The world is not this transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:21 AM
4

I mean improving your partners experience of anything, will help. I will say, this might feel like pressure to some women. They’ll feel like they need to perform that you’re good at sex. I knew a girl who would tear up when she came. If she wasn’t sobbing by the end, her bf would ask what he did wrong. Well, she responded by fake crying by thinking her dead family members. Then she became averse to sex because it required so much focus and bad memories. They broke up. And you can go over to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:45 AM
1

That specific advice might be bad but broader idea of division of labor is a good idea. That division only works if you are willing to trust your partner while accepting things may break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:20 AM
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You sound a little defensive. And if you think American women don’t want material and legal benefits out of a relationship or marriage, you need to talk to more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:00 PM
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Who said all women are liars?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:15 PM
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That deadlift and squat info makes me suspect she has powerful kegel muscles. Sigh me up!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:40 PM
2

Yes this true. It’s true in the workplace, schools, and every other social institution where authorities have discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:10 PM
1

Rail thin house wife that never gets too mad at my antics and is attracted to me no matter how fat I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:04 PM
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Maybe it’s possible these people know their lives? I’m not asking you to agree, but can we agree it’s possible that people know their own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:38 PM
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You’re extrapolating this one video and it’s comments to a broader trend. Not saying it cannot be useful but there is a weakness in your premise. But fellas, stay away from organized religion. Especially the monotheistic ones. But this does highlight a fairly toxic blue pill idea that I see on here a lot. There’s this idea that if men were better at sex, women would want more sex. But this woman didn’t say her husband did anything wrong. The comments don’t say their husbands did anything wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:13 PM
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I think posts like this are well intended but are in fact cruel. They assume a lot about their intended audience. You don’t know what people’s experiences are. You cannot speak to society’s preferences. I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:48 PM
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Nope, it’s the opposite. The bad boys don’t need anything. Women get dry for guys they need to nurture. What bad boys give women is the chance to have no emotional or psychological obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:45 AM
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Often? I feel like I see maybe half of the couples where the woman is significantly more overweight, face is not as attractive, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:37 AM
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That’s the way you imagine it. It’s hard to CMV because any of us who have been married do not recognize your conception of a marriage. It’s hard to even figure out where you got this perspective from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:52 AM
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Women lie. It’s ok they do because it’s for a good reason. Women, for various reasons, are conditioned to to consider how their responses will either mollify or agitate men. Therefore, their responses are designed towards that end, not exactly truth or accuracy, if their answer has the potential of aggravating men. And when they are discussing their preferences about men, any answer could aggregate men. Aren’t we always hearing about the dangerous incels who are going to run amuck? Aren’t social…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:50 AM
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Aside from your specious statistics, I don’t know if you know much about being married. What you described is a specific situation that can apply to marriages, live in significant others, roommates, or friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:32 AM
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I think my problem with article like this is that, it makes it seem like point is a relationship. In my opinion, a steady relationship should be a means to greater end. Do you have the education you want? The job you want? I think this article sets people up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:56 AM
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Some people infer a value judgement. The “guy you settle down with” can be interpreted as less than the “man you want for good sex.” Whether this change is due to maturity is an open question. Whether people mature as they age is something not to be taken as a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:39 AM
1

Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:10 AM
2

In the movie, she seemed less desperate and more… confined. She made the best of limited options and then is shown having a degree of control. You could be right about her being desperate. But I remember a lesson about persistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:55 AM
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I don’t think it’s bad per se. You might have bad outcomes for individuals but I wouldn’t say it’s bad generally. I don’t think the relationship I referenced was meant to be a positive example, just an example of reality at the time. The movie leaves it on a kinda optimistic note. Like, even buffoons and people with “no prospects” can find someone to at least play house with, and that really is better than nothing under the right circumstances. But it’s not bad thing that people are able to choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 11:38 PM
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There’s a character in Pride and Prejudice who is a low born woman. She winds up marrying some privileged or rich guy who is dull and short. She winds up telling the main character, “I have a good thing here, yea my husband is dumb and we have no romance, but I’m eating good.” In modern times, that relationship just never exists. Mr. Collins becomes a rich incel and charlotte just never settles. She probably hooks up with her own Mr Darcy from time to time. But in reality, women have been always…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:17 PM
1

This resource issue has been true of every human ever born and to be born. I get you won’t have kids. But I don’t understand why I hear this argument so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:17 PM
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I feel like what you’re really saying about the man in the second category is that he’s attractive. Thus we comeback to the age old advice: be attractive and don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:22 PM
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Honest question, you really believe the world is significantly more politically, economically, materially, etc unstable than before? I have heard people say this before and seems so short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:20 PM
2

I used to joke with my ex that best friend was her real soul mate, I was just the person she married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:15 PM
5

So you’re not having kids to spite the rich and powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:12 PM
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As a concept, it’s an offensive because it denies human choice. It’s basically saying people do not make choices, they conform to biological programming. It’s not meant to be a mathematical formula. It’s meant to convey a general trend: traits are not evenly distributed across a population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:28 AM
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There is a strong possibility that this woman has a white bf or husband.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 03:02 PM
3

“I NEED ATTENTION. I NEED SYMPATHY. I AM REAL. I EXIST!”
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 03:48 AM
2

I’ve seen studies that suggest higher IQ men prefer monogamy. If humans are “hardwired” for anything, I would say it is serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:43 AM
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Dude my friend is 4’8” and slays pussy. All the time. College women, lesbians, First Ladies, WNBA players, and more. I think he’s on his second round of sleeping with every woman on the planet. Literally needs a step stool just to pee into the short urinal. He just takes regular showers. Women do not care about being six feet tall. Trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:15 PM
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Your last paragraph is the equivalent of men saying they would be more masculine if women were more feminine and in shape. As for the rest of it, there are so many qualifications it’s hard to take your broader point at face value. Just my opinion. I enjoy the back and forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:55 PM
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Testosterone has been reliably and repeated linked to sex drive. They even treat post menopausal women with testosterone to increase sex drive. If your body has more testosterone, your sex drive is higher. That’s not to say women do not have a sex drive but it’s not within the same ballpark as men. Especially young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:21 AM
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So I’m an incel but you agree with me. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:16 AM
3

I don’t get your point, physical attractiveness does not matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:56 AM
7

Congrats on the humble brag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:39 PM
17

… and be physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:16 PM
0

By most metrics, the economy is doing fine or even well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:14 PM
1

Your parents weren’t dealing with our level of education costs and healthcare costs. The world has really changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:47 PM
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Some estimates have one of women dying in child birth. The excess males meme lacks the other end of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:46 PM
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This sub has a complicated relationship with history. Women either had better options in men in the past or women have never had it better. I agree no one should be themselves up for being single, even if they don’t want to be. Be you have not addressed why more people are having less sex. Fewer kids and marriages. I understand that. That takes planning and resources. But people are having less and less sex too. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:43 PM
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That’s only true if you’re a non select straight male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:27 PM
0

Given what it is, how would it not be an indication of how you treat people. You have to compromise. Put your foot down sometimes, other times, defer to another. You have to consider another persons feelings, basically from the time you wake up to the time you sleep. We’re you somehow not married but divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:12 AM
2

Why? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:05 AM
1

Free of what? Is marriage a measure of how you treat people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:57 AM
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Have you ever been through a divorce? I agree no fault divorce is not great but divorce is still painful and difficult. And there might be something to idea that couples can figure it out it it means faking an affair with the court. What you’re not aware of is that your marriage used to be an indication of your character. This idea that women had it bad back in the day might be true. But it wasn’t true for every woman. It was not true for a lot of women in family who, while acknowledging progres…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:47 AM
2

You lost sexual attraction to an attractive woman based on a laugh? Tell me more. I never said men were sex dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:01 PM
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There’s no way I would end a relationship or lose sexual attraction over a laugh. I guess you could be defining man and woman progressively… I think you’re confused because you’re online too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:54 PM
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I agree all women get the instant ick, and that means you should be very skeptical about about people saying men should do better. But I think the ick is more random and spontaneous than just shortcomings in masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:17 PM
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With all due respect, touch grass. Go outside. Log off. I highly doubt anyone you interact with is telling you single women live a million cats. Maybe people on social media do. You sound extremely immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:03 AM
1

Attraction is visceral lads. There are some things you can do on the margins but if you’re not successful with women. You never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:14 AM
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Do not discuss emotions over text. If you write it down, assume she’s posting online. Have them sign NDAAs at the end of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:49 AM
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I guess I don’t see how people saw that and weren’t immidately skeptical. It was clear something manipulative and shady was happening. And people just leaped at the chance to quote Trevor Noah. Please send the nukes, floods, and asteroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:48 AM
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Jonah hill kinda got fucked over. New baby and all of a sudden an ex from two years ago drops the worst texts he ever sent. Maybe. And the public laps it up. Slurps it up licks the damn floor and we get a thousand takes, but all making the same argument: you should not in any change your behavior when dating someone. It’s been wild and I think climate change wiping out humanity in the next decade is a happy ending. We deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:35 AM
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I think is true but only because I think men compare their success to the most successful guys they know. The guys who had a few partners freshman year while their roommate fucked the entire class, feel below average. But they are average. If women find you attractive, they are not shy about getting to be around you. They find reasons to be around you. The men having average to above average sex lives are not approaching 100% of the time. Below average guys are told the problem is they don’t int…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:30 AM
0

I think you are missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:38 AM
1

This woman got Jonah hill canceled as his baby was born. She won the break up. The rest is internet bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:14 AM
0

Yea. If you have sex once every quarter, you make the most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:57 AM
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That goes both ways in the real world. My grandma literally never drove but my grandpa did not know how to operate a washing machine. My spouse’s dad literally hands his paycheck to his wife and poof, bills are paid. It’s been like this for decades. My brother does not know anything about his health insurance or dental he just goes to the doctor when his wife tells him to go. His cannot tell you anything about their car, internet, or gadgets around the house, everything just works. My grandpas, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:41 PM
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You can always tell a single woman by her beeping carbon monoxide alarm. Men prevent women from dying from carbon monoxide. One thing I learned from Reddit was the “lesbian death bed” apparently lesbians have less sex than any other pairing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:24 PM
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Am I naive, or cruel, for thinking if Jonah hill were someone like Tom Brady, idris Elba, or George Clooney, the conversation would be different. More people would be willing discuss why the texts were released in the first place, what is appropriate behavior when in a relationship, and so on. I can’t help but detect a notion, “who the fuck does this Jonah hill fattie think he is?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:50 AM
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Assuming that’s even a comparable life style, you’d have to count those break ups in the divorce statistics, which you did not do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:00 PM
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There is nothing to fix. Only a reality to adjust to. Fewer and fewer people will get married and have kids. The rest is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:56 PM
2

And you have a smaller share of the population getting married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:54 PM
0

I’m not a psychologist. Since you are, can you recommend one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:41 AM
1

According to what textbook?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:34 AM
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If she wanted to say he was dumb or insecure, I’d get that. But to diagnose him as narcissistic is odd to me. I find the lack of curiosity for hill’s side of the story the most interesting aspect of this all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:20 AM
-1

How do you go after getting someone to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:31 AM
13

So, you think all these people are just lying? Or that they’d rather live sad lonely lives? To what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:21 AM
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I think of it as a demonstration of fitness. If women rate 80% of men as unattractive, demonstrations of fitness are important for guys in the 15%-25% range. Outside of that range, it’s either never going to happen or was going to happen no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:43 AM
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Does the 3 have all of her teeth and a BMI under 34? Because is a 10 in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:05 PM
1

It’s interesting she owns a brand that makes and sells baby clothes. Almost ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:49 PM
12

The height thing is the most weird. Women can tell short men are not as tall as other men. That I think it’s clear they are judging your height against other men not against themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 01:57 PM
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A lot of straight are told that the answer to their suffering, is the opposite sex. A lot of straights are told that this world of suffering and loneliness is worth because one day they will win the approval of the opposite sex. I once read some where that high school girls in mixed gender schools have a 1:1 to correlation between their self esteem and popularity with boys. At girls only schools it’s based off how they’re doing in class and sports achievements. And for a lot of men, no matter ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:24 AM
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Women have incredible powers to figure out what is happening is someone’s life through social media. My ex wife used to theorize someone’s marital issues, friendship statuses, money issues, and even theorized how much two people were having sex. When our marriage blew up, multiple women in my wife said, “Im sorry but I noticed XYZ on social media and thought you were having having issues.” I interned in a law firm once and we had women who could track down people better then cops, Private invest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:42 AM
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You e already seen fewer and fewer men going into law enforcement and the military. Blue color and working class see the writing on the wall. Lue collar guys have stopped getting married, going to church, and other pro social activities. This trend will move up the social economic ladder.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 11:51 PM
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Why does this place exist? Why does the debate exist? And why isn’t the baseline hypothesis that people are living their preferred lives, all the way down to the complaints they make? Incels complain on the internet because they like it. Women worried about incels enjoy worrying about incels and telling the internet about it. Men strategizing about red pill tactics like discussing redpill tactics. Women who complain about the lack of marriageable men just like complaining about men and marriage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:52 PM
1

Up to one third of women used to die is child birth. Nature had multiple ways to thin the herd.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 10:56 AM
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Apparently, it’s normal for Japanese couples to stop having sex after a kid or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:07 AM
5

Is this a stagnant trend or are the trends moving in a particular direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:04 AM
6

If men told you to jump off a bridge would you it if you got enough up/down votes?
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 08:28 PM
2

Are you quoting a study or this your opinion?
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 08:18 PM
7

Don’t marry
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:11 AM
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I’m always curious about the others person side of the story when watching these productions. I’m curious why other people aren’t curious about the other side of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:09 AM
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Do women really react to men “doing better”? if it’s a natural instinct, then men are rewarded for conforming to women’s desires. Not sure why that makes them better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:18 AM
3

Looks always win.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 01:11 PM
4

Reading large sweeping histories and biographies. They also keep you off the internet. (In addition other ideas already mentioned)
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 04:17 AM
5

It’S aLL iN yoUR HeAd…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 02:28 AM
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I thought about doing something like this. In my app you can add a feature to “co parent.” The app would not only having a dating and married feature, but even a kid or kids. The app, using AI, would send you hand drawn pictures, send updates for development milestones, etc. With current AI we could even send AI generated pictures or maybe even simulated phone calls. I haven’t figured out physical stuff like playing catch. Anyway, my idea would probably flop, but I’m sure some guys would get bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:03 AM
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I’d settle for formal sex or even business casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:04 PM
3

You really think you know more about these guys looks than they do? Maybe this is true of you and a few other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:10 PM
4

Well, we don’t know if that’s not how women work. It hasn’t been studied.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 09:52 PM
5

The black pill should feel liberating. You should feel free. The anger, if you really feel it, should pass. To be honest, the issue is not women, sex, dating, or anything else. Too many people simply cannot be satisfied. Even if you were a chad that was fucking super models two at a time, you would still be mad about something.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 12:45 PM
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I have never seen this in real life. I think this is a social media invention.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 06:05 PM
6

Living your life with an unending sense inadequacy is probably not good for you mentally or emotionally.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 05:15 AM
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“When you’re a star, they let you do it.”
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 05:12 AM
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I’ve seen Facebook groups of women asking about guys they are seeing. The black pill is that they aren’t usually too upset they might be sharing the same guy. They are actually scrutinizing his fitness: does he have really have a good job, make a lot of money, have a grad degree, etc. discoveries that guys are spinning plates are met with a “meh, we’re causal anyways.” (Unless he’s married)
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:26 AM
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You can buy a pocket pussy on Amazon. The packaging is very discrete…
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 10:03 PM
13

Go over to the dead bedroom sub. There are millions of married men who are incels.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 05:21 AM
3

What if castration is the mental health treatment?
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:32 AM
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No. It will not. At the very least, it will be indirect. You’ll see it in the inability for the military and law enforcement to recruit, because who is going to care enough if they don’t have much of a stake in society? You’ll see fewer and fewer men coaching little league or even high school. And their political choices will correspond to not having many, if any, attachments. But let’s be real, a lot of people benefit from men being childless and spouseless. Everyone from gun manufactures to th…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 10:08 PM
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Anecdotally, women want and enjoy their now social freedoms. Little to no pressure to have kids, get married, or even feign that they miss these things. They can have any job they want and date around for as long as they want. But with all this autonomy comes a new a problem - too many ugly, short, broke, short dick, no swag dudes coming at them. That’s the only draw back: more access for them means more access for more men to them. I have worked with women that are 300 pounds but mad that a man…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 09:45 PM
0

So if you don’t give birth, you aren’t a woman. Got it.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 02:45 PM
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The black pill is spreading because women want it to spread. They want men to remove themselves from the dating market. Now, this is not necessarily a bad thing. These men who have removed themselves can live a life with no ties and long term commitments.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 03:06 AM
2

Would you say you prefer white men because you have a shallow cervix?
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 06:01 PM
1

Could just be the algorithm you’re exposed to.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 05:59 PM
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I was banned for “incel fatalism” Basically I said people don’t change much and if your life is going is a certain way, it’s usually going to stay that way.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 02:14 PM
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I’m confirming if that’s your position. I do not agree.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:29 AM
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I think that’s how members of society view them. They should be spared that information.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:26 AM
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I’m curious to know if they studied the emotional stability of the moms.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:21 AM
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No. We should be honest. People will be better off in the long run if we are as honest and direct as possible. Better that then people being told there is hope if they keep slamming their head against the wall.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:20 AM
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Women know, and are capable, of giving out black pills. Just listen.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 01:17 AM
3

This is a cry for help. He sounds lonely.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:23 PM
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Scenario 1: An average woman randomly walks up to ten average men, and offers to have sex with them. Scenario 2: An average man randomly walks up to ten average women, and offers to have sex with the,. Which scenario would you anticipate resulting in more sexual activity?
/r/AllPillDebate30/04/23 01:34 AM
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AI chat bots and sex toys. More meds and social media distractions to deal the with loneliness (they’ll have some kind of sanitized euphemism by then). No more passport bros, that will be illegal or standards will rise to the point that won’t be an option. More and more women will just share a man. Again there will be a euphemism for it by then. On the plus side, with fewer and fewer kids, maybe we’ll all pay fewer taxes. Maybe none at all.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 05:23 PM
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I’ve seen those studies have been debunked. But who knows. I wouldn’t put much stock into those studies either way.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 03:51 AM
1

They gain a ton of social capital. Having a kid will get you out of all sorts problems and allows you to have a good reason to do something extreme. Aside from the benefits you get from the government. Women say they begin to be women when they start menstruating, which is what allows their odd to eventually become pregnant. The ability to reproduce is what a lot of women regard as fundamental to being a woman. Having a man’s baby gives you extraordinary control over that man that you would not …
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 03:43 AM
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I am that guy. Women in my office always giggle and recall other men doing this. But these last comments are revealing. They don’t want social distance or familiarity, they want control and power.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 11:33 PM
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People are talking about that online though. So yea, face to face, you don’t find people talking about weird stuff. Doesn’t mean people aren’t thinking about weird stuff. And if we’re honest, if that were pleasurable, people would do it more. I think we underestimate the amount of people that have been ostracized and seek community online. This is what they’ve found. So be it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 09:01 PM
3

Honestly, blowjobs are also cap. Not real.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 11:36 AM
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Even the people on that sub are like, “dafuq, you’re over 30 and still this picky and self sabotaging.”
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 08:07 PM
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Women will say they prefer taller guys. That’s not in dispute. Does that mean short or shorter guys cannot get dates and sex generally no. But women still prefer taller guys. Both things can be true.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 03:07 PM
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I mean, you can get women to say, they’re only interested in 1 or 2 out of 10 men they see. You can get them to admit they want something different in a hook up and bf. You could probably get them to admit any number of red pill talking point. They cannot do so if it appears they are losing an argument.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 03:06 PM
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When the AI revolution comes, I promise, the moment women begin using it in large numbers, it’s going mainstream.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 03:03 PM
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A few wars ago I started dressing better because I switched jobs. More button ups, better looking shoes, more ties, slacks, etc. I got slightly more positive reactions from women at work. But I don’t think that you can go from 0-100 without getting taller, surgery, some kind training that gives you elite level charisma. All of that probably takes money.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 11:33 PM
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If the 6’3 guy has normal social skills and normal build, he wins most days. Consider some facial defects, on the right guy are considered almost masculine features for some women. Something like a chipped tooth on a manly looking guy plays different with women.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 08:43 PM
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I find it interesting that you can find a lot of women with strong opinions about incels. I imagine they’d say they were harassed online by them but I can’t help but think there is some other issue. On the evolution point, fewer and fewer women are having fewer and fewer kids, if they have kids at all. I wonder what her theory is for that.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 08:38 PM
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It’s interesting most responses relate to appearance.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 04:10 PM
4

I want this to be fake.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 04:01 PM
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How much can someone change about themselves? Maybe you an change the way you dress, workout, maybe change your personality to be more outgoing, hopefully you can make more money over time. You can’t get taller, you can’t really change the way you look without surgery, weight loss is about life style but also genetics, your personality is fairly hardwired after awhile. In the end, you’re still you, so those changes are difficult to keep going. I think the rise in loneliness suggests men just qui…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:43 PM
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I want a pretty girl who can cook and clean, a BMI in the mid to low 20s, sex and to be blown semi regularly, and a 75/25 to 80/20 split on bills, an understanding of a professional career, and a shared sense of doom about life and people but a cheery and silly disposition on the day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:05 AM
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“Yes, I post on social media about how men are trash!”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 12:44 AM
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Go over to the dead bed room sub and you’ll see this is bullshit. Guys spend 10, 20, 30 years thinking doing one more load of laundry will help them get more sex. Or the kids leaving will help. Or, or, or…. Nothing helps. If your wife stops fucking you, leave or get used to it. These things do not change or get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:37 PM
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I’m not a traditionalist but I think we over think this. Most people, married or single, childless or parents, don’t have careers, they have jobs. Meaning most people do not have a long term plan worked out. They move with the times and adapt to their conditions. My grandmas were stay at home moms for a while. They were also teachers, nurses, staff in corporate America, and so on. The SAHMs I know now just say, “I make sure e everyone gets to where they need to be.” AI is going to wipe out all o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:11 PM
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It’s good that many people, especially young men, are beginning to learn that, yes, they are not going to get married and reproduce. That this current state of loneliness will never leave them. That on the whole, most women will not find them attract enough to date, marry, or reproduce with. Let alone have sex. The plus side is that most people won’t enjoy being married or having kids anyways. So don’t be depressed, just realize the way you were taught and socialized prepared you with certain ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:08 PM
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Here the issue, the chad godmode just has wider margin for error. He can say more weird, dumb, or clumsy things. He can put in less effort because he’s equipped with attributes women immediately find interesting or attractive. The non select male has a narrower margin for error. Sure, he can overcome that, but he starts from a position where girls get the ick faster. I know some people present this as a binary, but actual argument isn’t that one gets all and the other gets nothing. It’s that one…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:21 PM
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So, a long anecdote?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:12 PM
2

Yes, that the way of the world my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:48 AM
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Women would rather be single and childless then with a guy they have to compromise their expectations. That’s just the world. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:29 AM
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I suppose it depends on the person and relationship. But that’s not the point. The point is, even if it were possible to do everything right, there is no reason to believe that will produce the relationship you want. If you can embrace that, you will be free whether you’re in a lonely incel, a sexless relationship, or playing the field single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:24 PM
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Being an adult means knowing you can do everything right and still not get the results you want or expect. If women won’t fuck you generally, “the” woman won’t fuck you either. That’s life. It’s ok. Learn to play more instruments and engage in more hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:19 PM
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It’s really good the dead bedroom phenomenon is getting out there. First, this is what our dads and grandads lived through, 30 40 50 years of no sex or sex a few times a year. Women think previous generations of women suffered but imagine your sex life ending in your earlier 30, and that’s just normal. Second, a lot of young men think that if they get a gf or wife, it’s going to be all worth it. The suffering the confusion, the work at “bettering” yourself. Nah bruh. You’ll have maybe a few good…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:09 PM
2

Honestly, there’s no point in getting married if you are broke, don’t have kids, don’t own property, and are both citizens. Otherwise, you’re not really getting for any real reason. You’re just telling someone you think they are really really cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:31 AM
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Boredom. A lot of things that men are told women do for dating purposes, are really about boredom. Dating apps, speed dating, Facebook groups where they talk men they found on dating apps, all about dating. It’s all for boredom. When women actually want some dick or husband, they find the highest paid single guy in their workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:27 AM
4

🧢
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:26 PM
13

There are other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:24 PM
5

You’ve met them all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:46 PM
3

If if if
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:45 PM
2

You think hobbies are as fulfilling as building a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:43 PM
4

This requires more effort and intention then years before. It just does. Maybe that’s good. And, looking who files for divorce, it’s harder to keep them. Now, dad, grandpa, and all our uncles said the good life is a wife and and children. In a generation or two, the good life will be something less community building oriented and you will see this change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:41 PM
2

Are the Wolverine really 5’5”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:39 PM
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Knowledge of sports statistics and war/military historical facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:44 PM
1

Wouldn’t the high stakes militate towards more information, not less?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:20 PM
1

That’s capitalism. You have a problem with the structure of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:13 PM
2

People are people, no matter where you go. I wouldn’t say that foreign women are completely different or the same. But I would say that they’re a little more honest about what the situation is: relationships have practical but also aspirational elements to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:10 PM
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He has given a lot of aimless, lonely young men, not only a sense of community but also adventure and something purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:13 AM
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Are blowjobs real? A popular guy in my school says they’re real but a few other guys say they are cap because no one put genitals in their mouth. I am not a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:36 PM
1

AI images
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 05:22 AM
1

The idea that our ancestors, even ancient ancestors did not love or experience love, is a cope. It’s a cope because it allows so many to retain their preconceived beliefs. Red pill guys don’t have to interrogate their ideas and behavior. Blue pillars get to say, things were worst in the past, so they are immune from questioning the world we currently live in. Assuming we did not have love in the past is makes our current easier and excuses a deeper effort to understand ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:20 AM
1

This sub is the only place where charisma is a one way street. In reality, charisma is a two way street. Charisma if people can show their charisma more when they have an audience that gives that energy back. So, we are back to the starting point: what comes first, a charismatic man or a woman who wants to be receptive to the charismatic man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:43 PM
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The first time I went all the way with a girl, five minutes before, I had no idea it would happen. No plan. No mindset. Just boredom and the realization we were alone. I think a lot of younger guys don’t understand that’s how it used to be: timing and luck. Now, I get that the apps, and social media and texting more broadly, are largely designed to moderate those spontaneous situations. And it does appear women want more intention and enforceable boundaries, where luck, timing, and spontaneity c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:25 PM
3

There’s a show called seeking brother husband on TLC. All the men look sad and depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:02 AM
6

I detect a bit of glee on this sub for men who struggle to have the lives they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:02 PM
2

I think this kind of sweeping advice for the entire population is dumb. I also think it confuses people who are looking for answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:10 PM
5

Everybody lonely and broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:55 AM
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So true. And women don’t care about money. I’m literally homeless, three feet tall, and have a face like sloth from the goonies. And I get the sex anytime I want, mainly because I know magic tricks and have manners. While I’m doing card tricks and the women are looked at one hand, I consensually slip my dick in them, and give them a squirting orgasm. Again, I am super ugly, short, and poor. Learn manners and card tricks guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:52 AM
1

Do you believe we know about every instance of abuse committed by priests?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:44 PM
0

Sexual gratification has various expressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:41 PM
3

Is the post about “abuse” or rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:21 PM
6

Were they abusing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:08 PM
2

I think the word regularly is doing a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:05 PM
1

RP is perceived as a solution. Just like “be yourself” is a perceived solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:04 PM
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I’ll be honest, this seems like a waste of time. If anything, you proved you cannot trust what you see on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:09 PM
1

Yes. I think anyone who was adult ten years ago would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:26 AM
1

The fatalism is implied. Refusal to adopt his point of view will result a continuation of your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:06 AM
14

Is creating a good vibe a one way process? Do women have agency to create the vibe? If so, do women enjoy speaking to men that are tall, have an above average attractive face, or are good in shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:07 AM
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It’s simple math. “Superficial traits” are by their definition easier to assess and praise. It can take much longer for people to realize you are very punctual or say please and thank you. No one is seriously arguing it’s a one for one, that for every inch of height over 5’10” the more sex you get. But if women, or men, are attracted to so called superficial traits, then people with them will be more successful with the opposite sex because they have more margin for error and are likely to be “r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:59 AM
10

Do you see this trend reversing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:20 PM
11

Living the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:10 AM
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Because they learn it. They learn it from parents or other family members. But they learn it mainly from the opposite sex that notices them and collectively starts organically “training” them. They learn through trial and error but with the knowledge they can succeed if they choose correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:16 AM
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I hope this gender war thing never ends. I have no idea how I’d spend my time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:51 PM
5

Touch grass. In the real world, these relationships do not turn heads, except among older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:53 PM
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Isn’t that always true? I think these relationships are particular despised by a very small group of people: older women. The reason is that their fertility, or lack thereof, is immediately called into question. This strikes at their conception of what it is to be a woman. Therefore these relationships not only need to be criticized but completely undermined by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:24 PM
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Be attractive and don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:05 PM
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In a way you’re right. But that’s because men are conditioned to believe they must “put up” with women. “Happy wife, happy life” men are taught early and often, the best you can expect is calm. Therefore, the only thing men are taught they can select on is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:01 AM
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To be fair, every marriage gets to this point.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 11:48 PM
7

The problem is that, these careers come with crazy hours and stress. People (often women) think a high status job and a six figure salary means a lot of fun and less stress. In reality, there is little time for vacation especially as these careers are growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:19 PM
1

Maybe nothing has changed. I also think that means the past was not as bleak as we make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:44 PM
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That also coincided with a lot of changes in the business culture like off shoring and the beginning of the switch from a heavy manufacturing economy to a services, technology economy. My grandparents were also married for a long time. My grandmas would recount romantic things grandpas did and it seemed very thoughtful. This is not everyone experience, I just think, maybe things really have gotten worse over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:30 PM
2

You really think that life was this bleak for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:21 PM
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You don’t want to blame one gender, which is fine, but women enjoy the fact that the internet allows them to screen, compare, and evaluate men. Whether that killed romance is hard to say. But the internet as a fundamental tool of dating for women is not going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:20 PM
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Am I wrong that 1/3 and 2/5 are a sizable amount of the population? People say most like it’s rare to be single…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:45 PM
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You’re right in a way but that’s because most couples don’t make use of tools marriage allows. Tax benefits, property protection benefits, inheritance, insurance benefits, etc. You are right, that many people use marriage as a way to basically say, “I was picked” which does not require the government. In fact, many of the responses here conflate weddings, with marriage. Marriage the institution is necessary if you have the property you want to protect. Even divorce provides a specific place for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:26 PM
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You’ve clearly seen the rebuttals. That’s why and how you wrote this. Men, some men here at least, say all the time that their online dating and real world dating experiences produce the same results. You don’t believe that. That’s fine but you’ve made that choice. Instead of saying, “that’s not my experience” you say “you must be wrong and things will be different if do what I do.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:31 AM
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Not gonna lie, I feel like I’ve seen these exact arguments posted here a lot. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:19 AM
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I always thought it meant “I want a man who knows how to make me cum.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:40 AM
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This is our world now. Fewer and fewer people will have life long partners and kids. There are probably good and bad outcomes of this dynamic. If you are waiting for some society wide break down, I would not hold your breath. First, the status quo is working for a lot of people. I think you’ll find a lot of women who regard the state of the world as progress. A lot of men have never had more access to romance. Second, there’s not much we can do to “correct” this situation. We can’t force people …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:49 PM
4

The one who does not want to be responsible for child support for 18 years. Or the one who promised they could focus and pull out (on time). Or the one who said they finished in their ex all the time and she never got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:24 AM
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Love bombing works because the woman wants it to work because she’s attracted to the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:00 AM
2

I guess, I don’t how the hosts do this, day in, day out? How do they keep saying and doing all of this? And who is going on this show at this point? I guess I’m not sure how any wants to participate in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:35 AM
6

How is fresh and fit still… existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:30 AM
4

If you’re an average, I’ll grant you that you will never get as much sex as you want. And you’re relationships with women will constantly be never negotiations and compromises. But under those circumstances, shouldn’t you just be the happiest person you can be? The conservative side still imposes a range of duties and impositions upon you. The liberal side will not bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:08 AM
2

You make it sound simple. I wonder how all these men are confused that height is something prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:49 PM
1

Again, it’s not vague. It’s fairly distinctive and clear. So why are these men saying height is important to women? Are they lying? Trying to make women look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:47 PM
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Because height is an obvious characteristic that functions as a hard filter against shorter men, it is perceived as a dealbreaker. Or at least a negative characteristic that must be overcome. Arguing otherwise is like arguing first impressions are not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:19 PM
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But it is a knock, right? In your scenario, this guy is compensating for something he does not have. His margin for error is narrower, his ability to make a positive impression is diminished. That’s not a bad thing, it’s life. Women who care about height aren’t shallow, they’re human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:01 AM
3

It only makes sense to get married if you are upper middle class or wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:59 AM
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Are all these people lying? Men say women care about height. Women say women care about height. Maybe it’s not a binary, but it’s a knock against you if you are short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:58 AM
2

You’ve gotten local 5s and 6s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:55 AM
4

AWALT my friend. What you get on the other side of the block, you get on the other side of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 12:44 AM
5

When I lived in Asia, I realized that while many Asian women went for foreigners, these were the women that were effectively priced out of the local market. The top women in country, went for their own race of guys. The foreigners were dating women that were too fat, too dark, too tall, too socially awkward to get their own native alpha. Which begs the question, wouldn’t these foreigners do well with “less attractive” women in their home countries? Can we be sure you are not getting the same wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:57 PM
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I think it’s more that young men are kinda lied to. Personalities like Tate exist because young men are looking for explanations to their lack of whatever they want. We need to lower mens expectations for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:36 PM
1

By most, do you mean 90% or do you mean 55%?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:30 PM
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Depending on you frame this, almost anyone will agree that women would rather be single than with a guy that does not meet their standards and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:06 PM
1

I’m not going to lie, I’m scared of going to the gym because I think I’m going to end up on til tok and being accused to leering at a girl, when all I wanted to do was use the machine shes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:04 PM
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Why do you believe that? Why do you think you represent the average Jill? How could you know what women in the dating pool are looking for? More to the point, why is your claim about the dating market anymore believe able than the other poster?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:50 PM
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I think this thing is a psyop. It is designed to pour money into the tech industry, which is facing a downturn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 06:47 AM
2

Because dick size does not matter, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:23 AM
2

Dick size does not matter. Height does not matter. Wealth does not matter. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:14 AM
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So if you’re willing to say that all of this makes it harder, but not impossible, and a lot of men are saying it’s harder, why are you unwilling to agree when men say it’s so much harder, it’s almost impossible or just not worth the investment? This idea, it’s not impossible, seems like such an article faith for you, I am curious to know why you are so certain it’s not impossible (or close to impossible).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:57 AM
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You’re conceding my point. Speaking in binaries, when I’m asking about a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:41 AM
2

Do you think being tall is more or less desired than washing hands? Objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:12 AM
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I think what you’re saying is that this is that unlikeable and undateable is subjective. We cannot have a shared definition of these terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:58 AM
2

Would you say women raising their standards is an internet only phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:48 AM
4

Again, according to OP, social progression should make it less possible to date if you are undateable. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:45 AM
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Men might over estimate, but do height and money help? So we can agree there is such a thing as being “too small”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:38 AM
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So, you’re disagreement is with OP not me. Either most men are taken and therefore likable humans. Or they are undateable messes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:35 AM
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You don’t need to have height, stick size, millions of dollars to attract women. Maybe not exclusively. You would agree these things help. In fact, these attributes can generally, overcome any attribute you can change. Also men don’t have to adopt more progressive values, they can find more conservative women. So, you are saying men should strive for a more conservative society, if they want to procreate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:51 AM
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If men wanted to procreate, wouldn’t a better strategy just be recreate the conditions of the past. No abortion. No access to birth control. No marital rape laws. Men on here say all the time the things you listed are not enough: going to the gym, having good hygiene, having a good job, reading social cues, are not enough on their own. You’ll need to have things outside of your control, like height, dick size, and an incredibly high salary. I think you are basically telling men to adopt extremel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:38 AM
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Just because they are desires, does not mean they will be fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:18 AM
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Just do what makes you happy. Rant online. Lift. Go on deadrooms and remind yourself that even getting a mate is just going to lead to the same issues you have now. Whatever it is, just do you. You have also chosen to seek these spaces out…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:58 PM
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It is odd that these takes never consider that these guy have tried changing, and have achieved the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:52 PM
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I feel like the orgy cop woman is one of those people that’s more attractive in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:13 AM
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