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discussion17abdul/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 10:04 AM
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misandry17abdul/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/22 09:48 PM
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Okay thanks will try to find it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/22 04:51 AM
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What I do find ridiculous is when certain women play the victim card and incite paranoia/demonization of men (or certain men) as monsters. That's the definition of fragility, or perhaps "feigned fragility" in the very least. This is actually in line with what he meant by fragility in the video to be honest
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 07:20 AM
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Wow bro that's actually what toxic masculinity is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 06:08 PM
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Yeah but any time it's discuss its always only applies to fragile masculinity , but you have point to an extent everyone is fragile
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 05:56 PM
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The issue is that even while this might be the case, they are the ones that actually cause this to occur , and then they get angry when it happens
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 03:59 PM
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Same , I didn't think much about it until after I watched the video , so i thought it was an interesting topic of discussion, because it would weird if I just accepted it as that , I mean you need to think critically on this topic nd I wanted to know other people opinion on this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 03:30 PM
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Sorry first time posting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 10:42 AM
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The context here wasn't about social expectation but about women wanting independence from men while simulteonous policing mens actions both sexual and none sexual regardless of whether or not it directly affected them, even if it positively affected them, as long as men benefited from it even if it wasnt about them it was automatically considered bad , of course he specified that it was not all women that were like this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 10:29 AM
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Why do you admire them the most
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/22 06:05 AM
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i think this has more to do with women seeing you more as an accessory like the fact that you are gay is somehow a reason to hangout with you , which in some cases should actually be seen as a red flag to be honest because if they wouldnt hang out with normal men, that means they only like you because you are gay , and not you specifically
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/22 10:41 PM
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i think the fact that you are trans is exactly what makes your case unique, i advice you focus on your preference ,i am straight but i can get that finding gay men wont really be that hard, plus they dont care as much about how the public feels about them , but for women bro dont bother, because unless you are ready to put in alot of effort , you are prob not gonna be successful considering its a new dynamic, still this is kind of ironic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/22 10:37 PM
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That's an extremely shitty thing to say to someone who was a victim of sexual assault
/r/MensRights24/01/22 07:00 AM
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But they do care, aside from the top comment most people are actually providing support for op so am i
/r/MensRights24/01/22 06:59 AM
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Like i was shocked , they already started hating on this sub , claiming it doesn't care about sexual assault victims , this thread is relatively new and haven't even gain traction yet and it has like what 300000 members qnd because one toxic guy ( there are toxic people in every sub ) has a top comment that is wrong which alot of other commenter disagree with top comment , that's somehow a representation of the entire sub, heck not up to 200 people have commented , but for some odd reason , that…
/r/MensRights24/01/22 06:41 AM
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Lol that's impossibke , men cant be eaually treated as women in feminism , that goes against the whole concept it supposed to be womens first
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 06:35 PM
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This is so under discussed
/r/MensRights22/01/22 09:42 AM
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knowing your intentions from the begining doesnt mean you cant cheat, people change, some get bored of the relationship, i mean like divorce has a 50% chance, and infidelity is pretty equal, not saying you shouldnt trust your partner, but trust doesnt prevent these men from being victims of paternity fraud, so its not about whether you deserve better treatment just as women say to men ," my mental health and safety matters more than your ego" so yes you should understand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:30 PM
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i mean okay you can get it , but first you actually need to know if he did have any kids in the first place, which is very unlikely, and then even if you did , you choosing not to date said person isnt bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:35 PM
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i mean okay , isnt that a good thing thou, i mean , unless you were separated and you are not a dead beat dad, i wont advice women to go for deadbeat dads either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:32 PM
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so men wont be raising other peoples children without them knowing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:26 PM
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getting positive in a paternity test doesnt mean your wife isnt cheating on you, it just means that your kid is your , your wife can still be committing infidelity and you still wont know , so unless you want to survey women as well its a false equivalence, and the only reason why women cant have it is because , they cant be unsure of their own child
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:19 PM
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false equivalence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:10 PM
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you are aware it can be too late thou by then]
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:08 PM
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this is kind of a off argument to make, trusting your partner doesnt prevent infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:05 PM
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not an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:55 PM
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I know some women who haven't been assault , I also know alot of men who have been sexual molested by women most at a young age as well , I also know men who have been harrased and bullied too
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/22 07:46 PM
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Because its a movement movement fights for women, I am not against fighting for women's right jut I am against the idea that it helps men , whether , it criminalised masculinity i can't say for sure, I won't judge the entire movement on based on the bad amount of people in it ; same goes for MRAs
/r/MensRights19/01/22 08:07 AM
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Feminism is good for women and all and it's good for society so it's good for society , but for whether it helps men , I seriously doubt it ve abuse abuse it comes to fighting gender stereotypes people have always been doing that feminist just believe they initiated this
/r/MensRights18/01/22 10:44 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:35 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:56 AM
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True but if women aren't finding men like that¡ then it's sjouldnt be an issue , which is my point, OP should find what works for her and stop claiming guys are intimidated by strong women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:48 AM
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Complimentary relationship where we both have our interests and both support each other , in terms of sex we should both be sexual compatible personally j am open minded to an extent Edit: also want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:32 AM
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Yeah but I think hid point is totally fair, he has the right to want that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:09 AM
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Wow I didn't think of it that way , I mean look at spiders wow
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:56 PM
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i feel the same way, i am like, one woman is already enough work and commitment, i should add another, thats just makes your life more annoying ,so no
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:12 PM
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Personally i dont know , i honestly dont know their intent because there can be horrible people in any subs so thats why i said you assume it has a point
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:51 PM
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I don't know , you assume there is always a point to memes
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 12:26 PM
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You are aware they excluded trans men right and they said cis men can't have period also this has nothing to do with the current discussion , even op clarified that he was only being specific to cis men and not trans men, because cis men biologically can have period
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 09:01 AM
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Personally I am not anti feminist , I follow this subject just like I follow all subs in almost all political spectrum , my issue with feminism is the idea that it helps or well support men it doesn't, but it claims it does which it doesn't
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 07:15 AM
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The idea that women weren't able to vote just because they are women isn't entirely accurate most people weren't able to vote , there were condition that had to be met to vote which is why women weren't required to vote the same applies to rights
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 07:13 AM
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i am indifferent about it , but as long as they dont go toxic , its not really wrong
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:21 PM
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I am saying that the draft in itself is only used in a national level emergency situation a whether its legally removed or not, if the Need arises the government can re instate it
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/22 05:32 AM
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Hey you are entitled to your opinion but but don't have to listen to it so
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:42 AM
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They do they just dont voice it as much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:21 AM
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Yeah actually I don normally.it know why that's a thing I don't agree with it either, but then I am kind of indifferent it shouldnt matter what their employees do with their time., I mean company's usually let employee who they assume give their company bad rep go, so while I don't agree with them , it's not my company and they can do what they want actually, so people should take it up with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:26 PM
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I mean this thread is saying that the men are jealous and ask what they would rather do, some even claimed men were jealous because they are taking men's money and making more money than men , so sorry if it wasn't implied that this were side hustle , also if its a side hustle , it means you have an actual job and you are prob not marginalised because you do sex work as a side hustle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:15 PM
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OK how do you make the less marginalised because considering , I agree that sex workers are marginalised to an extent but since we are talking about onlyfans specifically, I fail to see how considering alot of them make a considerably large amount of money , you can say they have bad rep but how are onlyfans content creators marginalised thou , because let's be honest according to what I have heard alot of them seem to be getting their money and considering they claim men are jealous it means th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:07 PM
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The difference is that actors don't complain about just being seen as actors depending on the genre , there are some actors that aren't taken seriously when they switch gerne some do but some don't but they don't complain when it doesn't work , the same applies to models , actually some model have complian about people treating them at face value but most actors don't, but some sex workers actively claim about being objectified Also you haven't really said anything on my point that respect is su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:57 PM
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Alot of the fans I know don't know anything about levrrom aside from the facts that he is an awesome basketballer so I guess there are some people who look into their lives , but I am saying there are people who judged based on what they see not because of the Information given, sex workers don't usually go indepth in theor personal life, so you can't just expect people to just know them outside of them, pertaining the hate male and dehumanising Comments, those have very little to do with sex co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:52 PM
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She wasn't complaining about the corruption, she was actively blaming men for being in the porn industry as for the it's her work argument , she is a person yes , but considering that you view on that person is entirely based on sex is not on the audience, considering that's what she presents , it's like how some people see LeBron as a basketballer , they don't care aniut his dreams or personality or life , all they care about is that he plays basketball. Or how some kpop fans see kpop boy bands…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:26 PM
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You see you can , but the problem you respecting someone isn't based on sex , but is based on the person you are having sex with , take the people involved in only fans for examples , the people that are taking advantage of men's objectifying women clearly don't respect their fanbase , because if they did they would help their fanbase but they see it as an act of making money rather than help whoever is involved ,its why they would be very meet with their fans real life or eve engage with them o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:16 PM
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How
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:01 PM
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No I am not I am answering you , for you to change the view on sex you also have to change the function of aex in the society, exactly its an based on biology and affects literally all species on earth , so how it is view is separate from how other things are viewed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:57 PM
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But i am not talking about non content creators , I am talking about only fans content creator kr sex workers in general who complian about being only seen as sex workers or just seen as sex object , I have seen OF content creators and insta thots and twitch thots complain about not being seen as anything other rhan sex objects and I am like well duhhh , they also complain about how men don't want to date sex workers , they have no right to complain zbout their dating prospects and limitations a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:53 PM
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Unless you want to change how se is view and by change you have to make it invaluable in the relationship between men and women, meaning women shouldn't be angry if men looked them just for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:40 AM
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You assume the very people complaining are same consuming their content which you cant even prove, but some might be jealous , some might resent themselves and some genuinely see it as an issue because of the exploitation of men and objectification, some complian because women complain about men who consume this or men who don't see sex workers as any other thing than sex worker of women for what you would rather do ,you can't get a job that doesn't involve sex work or you can stay where you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:30 PM
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Yeah except if the company is complaining about about the very thing that's the company is using to sell it's products, my issues isn't that women are making money from it , it's that they are complaining about the very thing you are making money off , might as well just justify the objectification of women , its like saying since we are slaves , might as well charge us for money while been seen as slave then still complaining complaining you are seen as slave , Also they can choose not to value…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:03 PM
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Not really deflecting , I am saying that there are some only fans women who complian that they aren't taken seriously when relationships are involved and they are only seen as sex object, you didn't read what i said before, also it does add to the objectification because now women are the ones justify the objectification, honestly it's not really my business as long as they don't complain that they are only seen as sex object while opening promoting the very thing that makes them being seen as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:10 PM
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A job isn't someone personal life persay , it is used to earn income , that's why you can separate yojr personal life from your job As for the culture , there are some cultures that can't be changed due to how the dynamics and what the action in itself affects
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:24 PM
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Being gay is different from doing sex work , sexual orientation has more to do with personal sex life than promoting sex as q commodityb just like how people see drug addixts and drug dealers or alcoholics , the difference is those thing affects people personal , besides , even if you did decriminalise it , the mentality won't change because of how sex in it self is affects everyone and it applies to gender dynamics , the issue isn't the culture, the issue is that sex is view in as something mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:35 PM
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My exact reason as to why I don't like it , but I wont actively hate on it , the issue is that the very people who support are the same people who claim to be against objectification of women by men , which is hypocritical you can't complain about something you make money off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:18 PM
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My issues is some of them complian about being seen as sex objects like wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:05 PM
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Who is bitching about it thou , besides you haven't given an actual answer , what exactly should be done to change the culture on how sex work is seen , since you think there is stigimatation on sex work , be specific, because everything I said was based on the fact that some women don't like to be seen as sex object but do Jobs that rely on them being seen as sex object, and that if they do those jobs they have no right to complain about being seen as sex objects but since you claim its stigma …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:37 PM
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I am not even hating on them , I actually have no issue with sexwork , I have issues with onlyfans specifically but I am not protesting or claiming it should be shutdown, never even said they shouldn't do sexwork , never even said they don't deserve respect , i am saying if you are willing to sell yourself for someone else sexual gratification especially on a large scale with large audience , you have to accept that's mostly what people would see you as , the issue is this , the same people who …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:31 PM
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OK then how do you distigmatize sex work specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:32 PM
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So why are there still sex workers who complain about being seen as sex workers when that's what they present , if you are willing to use the delusions of thirsty men to make money , you shouldn't complain that there are men who see women as such nor should you complain that there men who decide due to their delusions to resent you for not knowing that they didnt have a specific connection to you if you knew that there was a possibility of this Edit : you can do sexwork, that's not my issue , bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:35 PM
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I mean yes , not compulsory and nor really my point , OF content creators are not responsible for what their creator do with what they consume from them , but the issue is this , if you know that this is the most likely thing that your content is used qnd you capitalise on it , then you can't complain that people see you as someone that promotes it since that's how you make your money, it's like an arms dealer claiming he doesn't like war and that people shouldnt go to war while actively selling…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:09 PM
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I don't think you should shame the maker of said product but this is a poor analogy, the idea that because someone is responsible for how they use the content they consume doesn't completely remove the seller from any responsibilities or any consequences of selling to the consumer knowing this could happen , take EA for example , knowing fully well that children could be exploited when they released loot boxes, it was implied that they took advantage of children , why was EA blamed for fostering…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:48 PM
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Never said they were , I am saying if you are willing to capitalise on these delusions then you can't be annoyed or complain if there are consequences to capitalising on them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:16 PM
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I don't know how simps minds work , but I have seen YouTube videos about simps being angry because they found out that the contentncreators they were subscribsd to had a boyfriend and were surpris3d that she had actual relationship also seen some tweets about it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:58 PM
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My issue is that women complian about the market , like if you promote simps who just see women for their body , you shouldn't complain if there are men who objectify women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:36 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:31 PM
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Yeah it does make it better for men who don't but men who do actively cause more problems for both genders overall, first when they find out the relationship is fake it actively makes those men misogynistic and creates incels which people still comain about , as for some men being fine with dating sex workers for them, not many thou , the issues is they it's also fine to not want to date sexworkers, but zex workers complian about the fact that people don't want to date them , or don't see them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:29 PM
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There is also the idea that sex work in objectifies both gender mainly women , the problem is women complain about it more while actively supporting thus particular profession so its just kind of ironic thou
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:21 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:19 PM
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Because most of the people who pay and consume stuff like that actively substitute this from relationship , plus it contributes to the idea that women are sex objects , now normally this wouldn't be as issue until sex workers start complaining that men don't want to date them , or that they are only looked at as sex object and I am like " WTF did you expect "
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:18 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:14 PM
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Not everyone who complains uses their services thou
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:13 PM
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What about the diluth model being used as a form to judge all forms of domestic cases
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:18 AM
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Women are part of society , but this logic nonform of discrimination is based on gender but by society not just valuing one gender over the other in certain aspect
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:17 AM
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You are aware that even when there would be stats the stara would most likely be based considering there is already an idea that they are the more reasonable care given which isn't really true
/r/MensRights09/01/22 07:14 AM
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I focus on attracting someone that I believe would help me grow and I can also help the person grow , whether the person is the exception or not , I I don't have sympathy for women who complain about what the average me want but keep dating dating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:31 PM
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Personally not promiscuous people in general, I I not promiscuous so why shouldn't she be
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:25 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:12 AM
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And that's fine but that's extremely hard to find, a man who can handle kids but not want more kids that's extremely hard to find
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:43 AM
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I agree you should be concerned, but in most cases not saying all cases, don't get me wrong there are women who help out and actually help their husband in time of issues but like the exception isn't the rule and you never know , plus if you then divorce we stillbhave to consider alimony and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:41 AM
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Yes they , which is why they acquire it by working, what i meant is that when it comes to relationships with women , the woman having money isnt important becquse in most cases he would still be held financially responsible for most things in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:26 AM
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Good but that's not always the case , I not sayng single mothers shouldnt have relationship or that it always leads to terrible relationships, it most likely would and honestly not the fault of either parties sometimes , both just have different priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:23 AM
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Exactly you wont qnd that's good for you besides you have more to less tools and money to women is actually important in a relationship but not to men , because even if a woman has it, you using the money she has is prob not going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:19 AM
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Again having only high school education doesn't make you uneducated, there are alot of dumb people who still graduated from college doesn't make them less dumb because they have a degree in college, besides the only reason I would be insecure is if she makes it a point that I am not educated and uses it against me , but that's the thing I don't need to use my wife to Impress others I can if she has something that she feels she should show off and rtat cool and all, but if she doesn't , it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:50 AM
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I mean I can have conversations with someone about their jobs this has nothing tondo with habung degrees or not , also having just a high school education doesn't equate to I have nothing going on in my life or I can't hold a conversation, also never said men shouldnt be trusted take care of women but no one should out all their eggs in one basket even if the basket is reliable , there is also the factt that yes compatible finance matters, but you assume women with with degrees or careers always…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:20 AM
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Yeah and that's you , but you see the thing , you are the exception not the rule, because if money wasn't a requirement to date , women wouldn't use money as a reason to judge men nor would they break up with men vased on it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:48 AM
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Yeah but that's the point it's because of social bracket, that has more to do with environment but if they find someone they care about outside their social bracket , and still date them , it doesn't mean their marriage would fail nor dpds dating someone in your social bracket mean you would have a succrssful marriage that's a poor argument , as for men telling their daughters to get their education isn't because of a relationship, it's so they can fend for themselves if neccesary and not rely o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:47 AM
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Yes but it's not because they are doctors that they marry doctors, it's because you are more likely to meet doctors as a doctor, and it's especially very possible to find someone you like who's also in the medical field if you are in the medical , not to mention , women would most likely want to date a guy who is a doctor not to talk about female doctors , unless you think doctors are dating doctors all because they are doctors
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:51 AM
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OK but hope thats not all you talk about or like sell, because there is a reason men hace to talk about their jobs which is why is why bring it up, you can also do the same but it shouldnt be your selling point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:48 AM
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Yeah but only to you , you can't tell men what to want in a partner when they know what benefits them , just like men cant tell women what to want , everybody standards are different, so don't be surprised or annoyed when you don't meet someone standards and expect to because of something you think adds value to them bjt doesn't really add as much as you think
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:38 AM
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Hmmmmm true not really a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:34 AM
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Exactly my point, I have to provide value , to get value but the requirements for men is different than the requirement for women , and a degree is not high in the requirement, a degree doesn't guarantee you in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:33 AM
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Intelligence and education doesn't equal doesn't equal a degree and just because it's not a requirement to date you doesn't mean I don't value , but it's not a huge priority in my values, what determines if I would date someone , is if the person can communicate effectively, if the person has good character and can be can be a good partner, if I am attracted to the person , if the person has my interest as heart and it goes vice Versa, a degree will not tell me that , nor will it guarantee the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:30 AM
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Hmm never thought about it that way, personally I would be never get married to one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:23 AM
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OK what the point you are trying to make
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:22 AM
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Loll
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:18 AM
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I would say the same about a woman claiming her degree is a reason for me to date them or that they somehow deserve a higher class of men , in all fairness , that is the least thing that matters , as long as you have like basic highschool education, and you can communicate effective , whether or no you have a degree doesn't really add anything or make me want you more , so I see no reason why any man would care about that expect in terms of marrying based of reputation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:16 AM
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Personally won't date them not be abuse they are terrible but because they already have kids , for me to fully be I vested in the relationship , I gave to be invested in the kid too, which in most cases can end up very badly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:11 AM
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This doesn't make sense , your degree doesn't equal you being a proper partner, so you showing it actually doesn't really add what you bring to the table, even you did have money, this doesn't mean you would help me financially, I mean you can say it because it was point of conversion but using it as reason for me to date you is very dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:08 AM
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extremely weird and honestly this can be considered internalized misogyny,( this is the first time i have said that word , ughh , but here they need to understand that , its not a normal view
/r/MensRights07/01/22 10:01 PM
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You are aware you can't actually remove the draft right
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 07:18 PM
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i am not antifeminist and i do agree with some of their points, but i dont consider myself a feminist because i actually consider mens issues , and dont believe they are the bane of existence
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 06:50 PM
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This is extremely fucked up and shouldnt be allowed , the only reason a man should hit a woman is in self defence only vice Versa applies of course but like the reason they gave are just extremely misogynistic and I don't agree with it
/r/MensRights07/01/22 02:22 PM
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That's the thing , it's not easy to detect that a girl is into you , also rejection in itself brings down anyone , cant really call it good advice
/r/seduction31/12/21 09:32 PM
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Never said they get it as much ,I said it can go both ways , I don't really get it thou , it's not like Insulted women or you , I just said that it can go both ways , and that some women don't have good red flag detectors because there are alot of toxic relationships
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:50 AM
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i mean maybe , its still alot of work for men
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:18 AM
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they dont care , and even if they did , they dont want to do anything about it
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:16 AM
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the idea is to get one that is not
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:16 AM
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but thats the thing it means almost all men are settling , the problem is , even if we match with someone we like they have to determine the relationship by relations , and since women wont initiate for unknown reasons , they will take what they can get , or just live life alone , which these days there arent encouraged too, since society gives little shits about them
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:14 AM
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a i agree men need better standards , still my point is that even if they do have better standard, women wont meet them half way in anything
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:11 AM
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you are aware this goes both ways right, people who are looking for genuine relationships would always look for red flags, also i dont really buy the idea that women in general are condition to quickly back away from men who give off uncomfy vibes , maybe some but not all , by this logic it means women can tell when a man would be an abusive partner, which if it was true , almost no woman would be in any toxic relationship but here we are or they would be by choice , i believe some are genuinely…
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:10 AM
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yeah not true , if it was that simple , some of the pick up artist who give these advice wont get women, and some of them do, there are guys who have these thinking and still get women , so i dont think its about mentality
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:04 AM
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thats not even it, i have seen guys who actually put in effort to look nice and still not get any reaction from women , women just have less boxes to tick than men thats why they have less issues when it comes to dating
/r/seduction29/12/21 12:02 AM
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i disagree, the average woman has a better shot than the average man
/r/seduction28/12/21 11:56 PM
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i also disagree with in the sense that while this is true , i dont think it applies to the majority of men , besides for that to even happen , they have to first pass through the looks threshold, that already removes at most 30% of men , even if there are men who are genuine , they still have to get through the looks department, and knowing women thats not easy to beat, sure there are exception but they dont make the rule
/r/seduction28/12/21 11:52 PM
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yeah that cap, i mean it applies to some guy certainly, but in the grand scheme of things , its actually backed up, there are literally women who have pretended to be men on tinder and even they admitted that women are hard to date
/r/seduction28/12/21 11:49 PM
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i kind of disagree with this because in terms of quality relationships you cant exactly say they lack abundance since the inital point of dating is physical attraction, there is a chance women have pass through someone who would give them a positive relationship and they were decently attractive but they found the better attractive person but not so decent personality, i cant really call it an illusion, dont blame women thou, prob just bad luck
/r/seduction28/12/21 11:46 PM
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well i tried
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:25 PM
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it is, it should be 50/50 but there are terrible people who exist and if you are the one who is going to suffer more from this , wont you take more precautions and vet who you have sex with , i mean think about , majority of men arent the ones having sex and making these people single mothers , its like how nick cannon constantly has kids, the women know this and still choose to bear more kids for him, if you know someone is a terrible person and you are choosing to keep going after it , thats o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:11 PM
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not really vasectomies are expensive, plus most of the time they are irreversible , some people change their minds and you could also have your tubes tied, there is also the fact that majority of men arent the ones having sex with majority of women, so even if majority of men do get one or even wear condoms , if the ones who are having sex with women dont , there is still a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:59 PM
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i mean to be honest the ball is pretty much in their court, the have like 5 different forms of birth control, then abortion is allowed in alot of states , and even at that you can give a child up for adoption , you also choose who to sleep with , in terms of rape thats an extreme and the least common thou
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:42 PM
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Actually this is very possible , if men just chose to protest for a whole week it would be back
/r/MensRights18/12/21 11:55 AM
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No , I have no issues with women having abs or some muscles but not too much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:43 AM
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Depends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 12:09 AM
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How is that a shit example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:39 AM
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I also enjoyed this debate , it's good to gear other people's perspective on things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:53 AM
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Again I don't think this is true A couple of years ago, it was seen that if a man cared about his hygiene or cared about dressing well, that it was seen as “gay” and feminine. This goes back to that mostly all advertising for hygienic or cosmetic products the past century has been catered towards women, so that if a man is actively participating in purchasing things to make him look better, he is into “girly” things and thus makes him less of a man. How is looking your best “girly”? I understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:08 AM
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The irony is that if man doesn't care about doing the things you mention they would still complain
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:32 PM
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But in way that's kind of them , it like saying , I am going to piss this guy off so he can get angry , and you get surprised when he gets angry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:18 PM
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Yeah that's not neccesarrily true , this very much depends on the situation and the role of said man besides this isn't exactly uncommon with women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:12 PM
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I think that's kind of the point of the thread , the idea that only male ego us fragile is BS , a woman's ego can be just mot more fragile and they prove it everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:59 AM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:46 PM
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some do some dont , thats my point, some women geniunely see men as sperm donors and have for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:45 PM
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are you sure thou, because not all single mothers are single mothers because the father abandoned their kid, they could be prevented by the mother from seeing their kid even if the father wasnt a terrible father
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:35 AM
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your point in teachers being mainly women because of salary isnt completely true, alot of schools prefer to hire women due to male stigmatization, even thou women are also likely to commit sexual assault to minors, this applies to any job pertaining to childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:31 AM
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men may prob do majority of the heavy lifting due to physical strength, and because they would prob demand to be treated fairly or better at some point , or it would just be like our current world but reversed, why i think this is because as much as people claim a world run by women would be so much better, there have been matriaches that have failed just like patriaches , it would prob be different but not better because some of the things that can cause issue cannot be controlled, meaning popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 11:22 AM
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, be strictly professional with women in the work place mo fratenization , you dont even need to be friends or work buddies , you just work in the same place that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:40 AM
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Then let them I rather do this this will be my go to strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:39 AM
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You do seem angry because certain people are willing to be cautious with women thou
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:07 AM
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I agree and those men should Also have money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 07:40 PM
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True I know some that dont actually care about it really and just see it as comedic but I dont known, they insist that they werent molested
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:29 PM
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I don't think that's it, I just think in the end they try not to dwell on it as much for some reason but then this applies to alot of things, whether it affects you dramatically depends on said man, because I know alot of people that have experiences this and just shrugged it off and they seem okay , as a man you can only dwell on specific things so long , and as much as people want to BS and say that they genuinely care they dont, both men and women , even if women do say they care , in the end…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 08:09 AM
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The irony is that the person committing the abuse is a woman and not a man but somehow men are to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:57 AM
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I cant say its sexism per say, I think this applies to everyone, it just applies less to women , because it doesnt just applies to animals anything considered a male is less cared for , so I dont know whether or not its biological or cultural ,but if it was cultural I blame both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:43 AM
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This assumes that all women are good partners this also assumes that's some of the women who are married are unhappy because of their marriage, and not maybe issues at jobs at that point in time , or post partum depression or being a mother in general
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:27 AM
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So she is angry that men have standards
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/21 10:36 PM
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True and even if you are married before you notice there is always divorce and If you arent married break up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 12:39 PM
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Yeah but people can hide bad habits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:47 AM
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Define the right match thou because you cant know unless you live with the person fully
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:04 AM
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True I guess, that's basically it , my standards aren't really high but it has more to do with what we have in common than looks but there is a look threshold, and while there might be more beautiful women than the person I would end up with , personality has more to do with long term than looks so I dont really care that much about looks per say , I can rate them but like I take what I can get that is good , it can be settling but i see nothing wrong with settling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:57 AM
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This isnt really an answerable question, but for me, someone who would make my life better and not worse , I dont really care about the build together aspect, as long as we both have money it's someone that my life doesnt get worse with , someone who isnt boring , someone who I am sexually compatible with , I dont care whether its equal or not as long as it's not annoying , or abusive, someone I can talk to in general, Iemotional connection is kind of weird for me , I dont really care about talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:41 AM
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Yeah it's basically the same thing the view just has larger audience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:19 AM
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see men who don't have anyone to talk to but their female partner and it's a lot and probably too much for one person to be doing for another. It's why men kill themselves more than women. Wel depends some men have and some men dont , but I domt think men have support system and hby support system I mean they dont in almost all aspects actually and by both men and women , so in the end they kind of get used to it , also even if they have a partner some dont give that emotional connection , the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:37 AM
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You assume this doesnt apply to their partners as well
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:00 AM
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Good glad we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:39 PM
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You act like women controlled this while thing. I'm sure women would love not to work. Did you ever think that corporations, which happen to very powerful, would be happy to have excess labor supply and low wages? That's kind Bullshit considering they are the ones who asked for it , yeah coporations would be happy what does this have to do with anything Women are making this sacrifice for you. Instead of being grateful, you take this as abandonment?! What?! Insanity. Women are abandoning ni such…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:27 AM
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Kind of make sense I dont get why they would be pissed off if men arent choosing to work since they dont need men to survive, why do they care what the men do, if guys are choosing to opt out and play video games and watch porn or what ever it is they do , why the hell do they care, maybe they assumed that all men liked working
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:19 AM
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Not really no
/r/MensRights24/07/21 09:25 AM
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You know what maybe you are right but I sould say women are way harder to be friends with even by women standards or else they wouldnt want to just be friends with men , men seem contented with thier friendships or else it would be them complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:01 AM
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Well because in general I think men find it easier to relate with other men at least most of them , plus their threshold for friendship in general is low
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:06 PM
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Women expect emotional and physical labor from all their friends. That’s what friends do we support each other, listen to each other, give each other advice, help each other. My GIRL friends have helped me move, paint walls in my house, they have given me advice, supported me in my studies etc… this is NORMAL friend stuff. Men think women expecting them to actually be a good friend is asking for too much because they don’t respect us at all. Period. Actually no, there is genuinely less effort I …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:41 PM
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I dont get this , wanting to date someone doesnt mean you dont respect them , also you dont have to be friends with women to respect them , and last but not least being a woman isnt why you should deserve respect, alot of guys dont recieve respect just because they are guys , respect is earned as a man not inherently given and the same should be extended to women, women should earn respect and I am speak as individuals respect is earned and recripocrated as individuals not neccesarrily as a grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:57 PM
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Not really if that was the case , men wouldnt be in the poverty line at all , nor would there be women who are highly paid at all, I think youbare just looking for a way to blame this on sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:22 PM
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I am not sure that's the point made, I think op is saying women go for jobs that tend to be more about caring for people which would be more emotional fulfilling while men do it for like the money, at least alot of them ir most of them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:10 AM
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Not really all you aware doing was trying to justify her action and when pissed when people called you out on it
/r/MensRights22/07/21 12:08 AM
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No you are retarded , he is saying that the same hormones excuse isnt used as an excuse for men , we are stil punished regardless of this , and you think women should get a pass and we dont , that's bullshit
/r/MensRights21/07/21 07:32 PM
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Men are afriad , it's just the know how to handle that fear and sometimes makes it into courage plus they have been taught in general to value their life less , why do you think they are more likely to take dangerous jobs regardless of being the most likely to die in workplace, or not seek mental help even thou they are more likely to commit suicide, alot them realise that no one cares so they dont care of course this applies to some men not all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/21 12:52 PM
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I mean isnt this what people have been doing anyway
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 11:43 AM
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No , the logic behind the idea is that because men lead they control everything , what people dont seem to understand is that patriachy wasnt made because men hate women and want to always be in control, but was a response to non technologically, morally , medically and philosophically advanced society , work used to be mainly based on physical and who ever could do the most work, or was the most physically strong had the right to call the shots, because if you think about it , if it was about h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 10:47 AM
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Yes this is kind of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:57 PM
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Yeah but its growing fast, marriage is already dying and men are less and less chivalrous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:42 PM
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Both sides should stop preaching this
/r/MensRights17/07/20 08:52 PM
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