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But your original claim was not that they were "good" but that they were right. Ah, and HERE is where you are wrong. That was not my claim. I apologize for my miscommunication, I thank you for CLARIFYING where the misunderstanding took place, so that I can rectify things so that you may UNDERSTAND my point. I did not say that they were right. I merely said they have their own definition that differs from our own. It doesn't matter who is 'right', which definition is 'better' since words are usel…
/r/MensRights23/09/14 02:41 AM
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You are forgetting that a majority of the MRM are former feminists. It's funny how we changed our minds. Are you saying that despite a good number of former feminists realizing the error of their assumptions, that no one else will? To help people who really do just want equality have an easier time realizing their mistakes can only serve to help us. Depicting a majority of our own movement as people who were evil, stupid, or would never listen to us is to blind ourselves to facts.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 02:30 AM
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There is a false equivocation going on that honestly leads your question to be rather loaded. I'm not saying there are not valid comparisons between both the Nazi movement/regime and the feminist movement, as well as comparisons between prominent feminists and prominent Nazis, but there lies one key problem when comparing the two within modern times as one and the same as you are. The scale of their reach. Human history has been filled with people taking advantage, whether they were aware or not…
/r/MensRights23/09/14 02:28 AM
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I am saddened to see such closed minded hate, to brand people whom merely did not know better as hateful. This isn't about what they want, this isn't about making them believe what we say. This is about people who listen to us. It is wholly arrogant to believe that being aggressive, that never considering others perspectives, that sitting in our own bubble talking our beliefs, our words, and never giving room for people who WANT to listen to us to be welcomed is going to make the world equal. Be…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 07:47 AM
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Perhaps. Were you born knowing everything or were you taught beliefs as you grew up? When you were younger did you accept ideas and beliefs that were wrong as if they were true? Did you continue to hold those incorrect beliefs until they were challenged? Do you think other people go through all of this, regardless as to if you do or not? And to really get at the heart of the question, isn't it possible for someone to, through exposure in early childhood, be lead to believe that incorrect hateful…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 07:39 AM
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The thing is that feminism IS wrong. No matter the incarnation.The base principles of it are false. Now, this is not the sense that I got from their post, and this isn't something that I'm going to disagree with you on. My response was more of because I felt a sense more along the lines of, "We are right, anyone who doesn't believe what we believe isn't listening to us, thus they are stupid and cannot be convinced otherwise." Whether this is what they meant to convey or not does not change that'…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 07:29 AM
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Oh I am fully aware that female nature and male nature exist and have bad aspects to them, which I tried to communicate through my several attempts to point out, "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" but without further clarification, what he LITERALLY said can ONLY be taken at face value. He said female nature leads to females acting badly. Meanwhile he had the ability to say that human nature leads to humans acting badly, human nature would be just as apt since female nature is APART of human na…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 04:44 AM
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I'm glad that I didn't flat out say that you were engaging in a no true scotsman, I recognize that I implied it (by saying that you were closer to making it than her), but from what I saw you were similarly implying that NAWALT is invalid for the same reason NAFALT is invalid (the latter is a no true scotsman). Which could have been my bad entirely and if you merely said NAWALT not to contrast it to NAFALT but to merely abbreviate it, then I sincerely apologize. I agree that he should apply disc…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 04:35 AM
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I personally find this post to be unnecessarily paranoid, suggesting that men should never leave their house or else we'll be thrown in jail (rather then encouraging people to take reasonable precautions, to educate themselves to danger, and to do their best to protect themselves). The point that women legally have too much power is true, and it certainly should make people think twice before they bring a random stranger back to their home, but I find what you're saying to be no different than s…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 04:05 AM
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I'm going to say, you might have had some fair points if the discussion was a bit different, but I would like to point out: This is a thread about a specific man who went through a hardship inflicted on him by a woman and how it has hurt him and him asking for advice on how to deal with the emotional fallout of it. /u/CanadianDrawl didn't give the most 'useful' comment in the world (assuming such a comment even exists of course), but it most certainly wasn't useless. She expressed sentiments tha…
/r/MensRights22/09/14 03:56 AM
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I imagine this is sarcasm, but because I have been wrong before wanted to state such at the beginning as to make it easier for you to point out if I am mistaken. I'm not trying to enforce everyone to 'have' to do this, merely trying to make this idea as visible as possible, spread it to as many of us as I can, so that those whom did not think of this would have the opportunity to make the decision for themselves of whether to do this or not. If you choose not to do it, it's not like you're going…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 11:23 PM
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Which I IMMEDIATELY followed with: Obviously there are a bunch of people that straw-man us, or refuse to listen to us, but there's nothing that we can do about that. Painting everyone who doesn't agree with you as inherently wrong does us no good. Even if we get things more equal than now, allowing such a mindset within ourselves will only serve that when we're taken seriously that such a mindset will grow, and just like we're painted as misogynists for not agreeing with feminism, we'd paint peo…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 10:44 PM
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Thank you for your time and pointing out something I overlooked. I'll try to amend my post to better reflect what is meant here by 'radical'. When writing this I was more of thinking about what 'radical feminist' tends to 'end up' meaning in conversations between 'feminists' and 'anti-feminists'. I very much understand what you mean, and I don't have a problem with that definition, but when we attempt to use 'radical feminism' it has become similar to using 'feminism' basically. We're misunderst…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 10:01 PM
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((FINISHED THE NEW VERSION OF THE POST!)) ((For anyone who might be wondering, this post was originally highly aggressive and confrontational. I originally wrote this message when I was tired and did not properly stop myself from letting my emotions take over. I then edited the message several times slowly noticing how bad it was. After going to bed I basically cut out basically the entire original message. I am TERRIBLY sorry wazzup for my poor decorum along with the original message, you did n…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 11:40 AM
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Just reading the stuff you're saying, I think there might be a miscommunication. Let's take what the 'average' (as defined by general belief) person who identifies as a feminist. They want equality, and probably think that women don't have equal rights and want to fix that! Good for them. This is what I would call an 'ideological' feminist, they're in it for the good feelings basically. They DON'T do hours of research, they DON'T go to congress, they DON'T go to debate after debate, and they DON…
/r/MensRights21/09/14 11:13 AM
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It is truly a sad day. Whether you agree or disagree with 4chan's point you have to recognize it's value as a free speech space. Or, barring that, a corral for the /b/tard types. Personally, I'm of the opinion that the tendencies and actions displayed by the /b/ crowd are, while taken to the extreme, the result of certain aspects of human nature. Given this and the resources they have access to, I personally find it hard to believe that even if this is the 'end of 4chan' so to say, that in 2 yea…
/r/MensRights19/09/14 10:07 AM
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I've gotta say man, that if it was up to me I would have you considered for saint-hood. What you and your girlfriend have gone through because of all of this is just horrible, but what you've sacrificed, what you continue to do is just amazing, especially when most other people would have 'walked away' as you could at so many points.... And for someone to have the GALL to say that you're worthless, don't exist, that everything that you've done and gone through didn't happen simply because you ha…
/r/MensRights19/09/14 01:40 AM
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Haha, well if I'm in charge of writing the summaries I'm afraid that we may not do too well. I have a tendency to drop massive walls of text out of the blue :P
/r/MensRights18/09/14 07:49 PM
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because we've gotten it into our heads, and even our rules, that the one to report is automatically the victim and the other is the aggressor. I think I'd disagree, in that I feel that, assuming no one ever lies, the one to report is in fact a victim, but the problem lies in assuming there was a 'criminal'. In the situation you described, the teller is still a victim, but of their own making. They were legitimately scared, whether it was reasonable or not does not negate that they had to undergo…
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:05 AM
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Thanks for the link OP, I had actually been fully unaware as to the 'proper' definition of coerced due to how watered down it's 'social' definition has become (and while I firmly believe that words are only valuable for communicating ideas, since we're talking about legality, knowing the legal definition is very important for properly communicating/understanding the severity of a crime regardless as to what social definitions a word may have). I also very much enjoyed seeing where the votes fell…
/r/MensRights17/09/14 12:52 AM
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I think I see a bit of a flaw here... Now this might just be my opinion, but I think that you are incorrectly asserting that Radfems are not 'feminism'. Now, there are a bunch of different things you could view 'feminism' to mean, base your definition on some kind of 'ideological feminism' that's about say 'Women should have equal rights!' (something many of us here would agree with), or maybe some sort of 'identity feminism' that's about forming a community and attacking anyone who doesn't iden…
/r/MensRights15/09/14 01:57 AM
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That's actually a rather illogical reasoning I think. It's not a fallacy because it can be applied to everything, it is merely a point to be made, said point will have different meanings and impacts in different situations and have different rebuttals. These arguments do not have universal merit, it tends to vary with each application of it. Example: If ALL guns are illegal, and criminals will still get guns, then we in turn make it so that criminals will never have to worry about getting shot f…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 11:04 PM
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but it could help give someone an interest in underage people that didn't exist before, or could turn a curiosity into an addiction. Given the strong emotional response society teaches us about how looking at even a picture of an underage person is an awful crime, I really don't think this is much of an issue. Really the only people whom would become so addicted to it as to basically forget their morals are GOING to become criminals. You hand them a bible and they might think it's their job to k…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:59 AM
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Because we have no real choice. I may be very strongly against an 'us vs them' line of thinking, but a combination of feminism bringing in laws that currently worsen things for men, shifting the blame of both men AND women's problems (both real and imagined) onto men, them painting us as evil and that men have no real problems, and a whole bunch of other things, it's kinda impossible for us to do ANYTHING until we've handled the situation with feminism. Do we want to get laws into place for equa…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 03:32 AM
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While it does definitely manifest that I'm not entirely sure that's entirely accurate.... While again, I agree that in practice, it behaves as you've described, I personally think that this practice is not because it is meant to be this way, but rather multiple things combine to manifest it as this. I personally think that multiple factors play into it basically just being a restriction on male sexuality (and I would like to note, that I am only referring to any measures taken that have NO invol…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:51 AM
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While I agree to an extent, I would like to bring up that this was a psychology class. That doesn't mean that it's a free group therapy session but rather I don't think that it's outside the realm of possibility that the teacher might have made it so that day they were sorta analyzing themselves or sharing information about themselves, or something in which such personal information would be on topic. I agree that a school setting is not the right place to really be talking about how you were ra…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:32 AM
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While I agree with your sentiments, I think that they didn't choose the right words for what they were saying. The ideas they were trying to communicate (at least the ideas I think they were trying to communicate...) are a bit different than how they described. If you would, if a student went and beat a teacher up, half to death, the teacher had to go to the hospital, the school had tapes and everything. And the school decided that instead of going to the cops (don't ask me why no one else did, …
/r/MensRights08/09/14 06:20 AM
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The problem here is that you are assuming that the person has complete control over their body and everything, whether you do or not is honestly irrelevant, can you stop your heart from beating? Can you stop yourself from swallowing? Once you start peeing can you turn it off and wait for hours to resume? Probably not, there are biological things that we cannot control, and I am not saying, "Keep on pumping!" after consent has been withdrawn, but merely a situation may arise when the male is so f…
/r/MensRights21/08/14 11:47 PM
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While I agree with the spirit of what you're trying to say, the situation that the image tried to paint is one that I think requires some special considerations (whether the event happened or not is a different story). Due to how biology works, there comes a point where it is physically outside their control to stop, for example if she could feel the sperm traveling through the penis (unrealistic but potentially possible depending on sensitivity and tightness) and then withdrew consent, nothing …
/r/MensRights21/08/14 05:04 AM
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But then that raises the question as to why we pay tax payer money to send out the letters, to enforce this law (in theory), to maintain the files (whether electronic or otherwise) on who is and isn't registered and have people check this stuff. I personally feel that the apathy that selective service gets, even the gender issue aside, is hugely problematic because by sitting around and letting it continue tax dollars that could be better spent elsewhere are being used for something that does no…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 06:45 AM
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I really liked this article. Short, simple, to the point, and used clear-cut legal examples. While I'm sure that many of us here could create a far more expansive list of benefits women have, I think this list serves to be short enough that it doesn't put people off, direct enough that it's difficult (if not impossible) to deny that these things happen, and it goes into enough detail to explain the situation without going too far into the emotional side (such as saying 'Regardless as to if you f…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 02:28 AM
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I'm sorry if this is not what you're saying but I've seen many people do this, but chocoboat is completely in agreeance with you. It's a very common thing here on this forum for just about everyone to think that 'alimony' is synonymous with 'deserve to live it large because you married an actor'. Again, I might just be a bit over-sensitive because I've seen many other people make this mistake, but both chocoboat and myself have been strongly advocating for the alimony system to change to basical…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:51 PM
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Most divorces are started by women. Which is not at all relevant. That's like saying most men commit violent crime so everytime a man goes to jail he should get a longer sentence. Alimony should, if it's to be applied, should be based on a situation by situation basis. If I marry a woman and I'm the non-working spouse and alimony is determined should be paid to me, the fact that women are more often the non-working spouse has NO bearing on the fact that I am the non-working spouse. The fact that…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:41 PM
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Perhaps not but if you had a job and quit then you can put on your resume that you worked there and it will look good, you come out of a marriage and you've got nothing to put on your resume. As well your example has a flaw. You said 'quit', you are saying that the non-working spouse is the one who goes for divorce or does something to end the relationship, but what happens if 'guilt/responsibility' lies on the other end of the table? Your analogy then changes to someone getting fired and then y…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 08:40 AM
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Personally, I'm going to disagree with you about it being a shitty analogy in a way. I think that, assuming that my understanding of how the system works is accurate, the analogy is valid in what alimony (usually) is. I'm not saying the ensuring that the non-working spouse doesn't fall into poverty due to decisions that were made for the sake of the relationship is wrong, but from what I've seen that's NOT the philosophy that's used for determining alimony but rather the philosophy that was ment…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 06:07 AM
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The idea isn't actually more of one tied to the notion of abortion, the point of 'abortion' being in it is some sorta combination of both trying to communicate giving up parental responsibilities and such early on and also possibly jumping on the hot-button issue of 'abortions'. Really, the idea of a 'financial abortion' is actually the idea of 'legal paternal surrender'. See in the United States (I cannot comment about other countries) it is common for there to be laws wherein a mother can leav…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 09:37 PM
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While LOGICALLY this point seems valid, this is a very human issue, and thus to view it purely from a logical standpoint serves to blind yourself to part of the issue. As humans we are more than just logical beings, we must always consider the emotional aspects as well. The real disconnect happening here is your friend is viewing the moment of signing up from a purely logical viewpoint. 'If you choose to accept the terms and conditions.....' sorta way, akin to going to playing the lottery and lo…
/r/MensRights21/07/14 08:25 AM
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You can't simply redefine sexism to mean "somebody makes a generalisation about a sex" and then claim victory. The problem however with your general stance here, is, at least with me (again I cannot talk on another person's behalf) I didn't come up with this out of nowhere. I am not attempting to straw-man it, merely using my own understanding and analysis of what I've seen from feminists to talk about it. Just like anyone else they use words to communicate an idea, if they use the word red 100 …
/r/MensRights12/07/14 02:46 AM
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While I most certainly cannot speak on the behalf of anyone else, I do ask, what then does it mean if my assessment is incorrect? In here I have merely shared my own thoughts based upon analysis and thought which I have placed. While obviously I am no ultimately authority on this, all you have done with this post is say, "You're wrong, stop being wrong." I do apologize if I misunderstood your tone but you've added no substance in response to what I've said, I do believe I've detailed out my thou…
/r/MensRights12/07/14 12:42 AM
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I've generally found that it's actually possible to compare just about anything to anything, to draw from similarities, due to every object and idea holding millions of different properties and ways to view them, finding at least one similarity among those many things is an extremely easy task once you know what to look for, as a result I tend to usually be a bit.... cautious when people try to compare X to Y in both a serious manner and then to use what is known about Y to influence what we fee…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 07:34 PM
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If going by US judges, they are not trained/picked primarily to figure out if someone is guilty or not, but rather to be an impartial enforcer of the rules in criminal cases or determining who's right in more civil cases unless I'm mistaken, thus what someone whom is trained to figure out the truth in a criminal case would be likely to do is independent as to what US judges would do I imagine. And if talking about judges more trained to figure out guilt for criminal proceedings (criminal proceed…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:38 AM
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My post here is very rambly and unrelated to men's rights but I do believe it is on topic due to OP's comments about the jury system. Just giving a warning. Honestly, I personally don't really like jury systems. While I used to, after doing some research and finding out that there are several European countries (like the Netherlands) which don't make use of it, I thought about it. While the jury system is a lot harder to say buy out than at least the other system that I saw (wherein a judge judg…
/r/MensRights09/07/14 03:27 AM
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Well for your situation you should definitely get a lawyer. If it were me, while I'm a little paranoid, the SECOND she took off the condom and put it back in I'd have done everything in my power to leave and make it clear that we are not having sex without a condom from that point (if I'd even be willing to do that). The fact that she was so insistent on NOT using a condom would have stuck out to my mind (but again I'm paranoid), then FORCING off the one that was on (and even trying to claim she…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 08:45 PM
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And I thank you for enlightening me both about the ERA and some various other things in the discussion (like correcting some incorrect assumptions I had about legalese). I'm not entirely sure about what the best format would be, the problem would be trying to combine brevity with something a bit more personal. While I'll keep trying to spread the idea around the subreddit when relevant, I think that I'm going to try to create my own short image or video, or at least try to have SOMETHING to shar…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 09:10 AM
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I agree completely, the 'media' stuff that I advocate would need to be short like that, but it also needs to be both both easy to relate to and invoke an emotional response, in order to get them to 'care' about men (which I'm sure we can agree is really the problem) is creating something that invokes emotion. I personally think such 'campaigning' is the most important thing to do for men's rights(not really something for the movement to have on it's agenda but for individuals to share). I agree …
/r/MensRights06/07/14 07:34 AM
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It's been tried for 100 years. Ah now THAT'S something I wasn't aware of, my apologies, that does change things by a decent amount, thought this might have been something that was just coming up for bills now. One of the most important objectives of the MRM must be to reclaim the gender narrative from Feminists. I agree entirely, I've actually detailed my thoughts about sorta doing this in a previous post of mine. Short version is that I believe that the current dialogue is basically someone is …
/r/MensRights06/07/14 07:03 AM
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You can interpret it to say the floor is made of lava if you don't read it and just trust someone who's lying to you to tell you the truth. That said, I just looked at it myself for the first time, I will admit, the amount of text certainly makes the aspect of people able to understanding it not an issue, but now there's ANOTHER angle that feminists could make instead to oppose it. That it'd be ineffective. I briefly glossed over the reason why legal stuff tends to be super specific, while I may…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 03:25 AM
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Right, but given that puberty has at least gone through a decent amount by the age of 18 usually, and not being fully dressed below such an age runs into more child based laws, the laws then governing male and female breasts will likely assume that we don't have even 5% of either the male or female population altering their natural chemistry resulting in them developing breasts to more akin to the opposite gender. That said, the laws might actually already account for it, using terminology that …
/r/MensRights06/07/14 03:13 AM
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Just because Section 1 might say, "Equality for everyone!" doesn't mean that section 25b doesn't say, "Well except for the women". This is a legal document, no matter how clearly put you think it is, it will either have to be legalese or may not be super effective as someone could find a loophole by some sorta vague reference, "Yeah I THOUGHT I was being equal and they're just different people thus different treatment" even if such treatment is discriminatory, you have to cover the loopholes, wh…
/r/MensRights06/07/14 03:03 AM
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Actually they aren't. I apologize for my incorrect statement, I improperly communicated what I meant. While male and female breasts are made of the same stuff, the utility, quantity of X vs Y, etc. is usually different. Essentially what I MEANT (which I recognize I did NOT say properly) would be that biologically male and female breasts develop differently (if we go as far back as sperm in egg, there is a point where male and female breasts are 100% the same in every sense, even if just in the '…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:17 PM
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Except for one: It would require it to be legal for women to walk down the street topless, which would be pretty awesome in itself. From what I've heard, while currently this is illegal on paper, courts tend to uphold this as a right that they have and strike down the law. Add in that male and female breasts are biologically different (even seen some arguments of biological factors making female breasts more of a sexual organ than the male counter-part), and that whole discussion (so long as you…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 05:31 PM
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If only they had the internet back before Columbus, the world would still be flat today! Would be so much easier to make an Atlas.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 02:47 AM
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Well you could also argue that the word 'power' is actually nothing more than a buzzword basically. We ALL have power. Lifting my arm takes energy, I require the strength to overcome the force of gravity pulling it down in order to raise my arm, thus by raising my arm I am exerting my power. All actions are an exertion of power, no matter how slight, and when we also consider the nature of individual interactions, we again see that just by TALKING you are exerting 'power' over someone. Ignoring …
/r/MensRights03/07/14 05:21 PM
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Since this isn't really about the money but a, 'Assuming I had the resources, what should I do to help the Men's Rights Movement?' or 'What would be the most helpful thing for the Men's Rights Movement?' I'll give my personal thoughts as to those questions rather than the one stated. Firstly, the MRM needs advertising. But not just ANY advertising, we need effective advertising. We need something that is easy for people to relate to, that sends both a thought provoking and a 'personal' message. …
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:44 AM
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There is an interesting perspective, but as well it has one small problem. It assumes that the people whom have military experience will be deciding if the draft is used, while, unless I'm mistaken, the draft is something that, at least in the US, the president and/or congress choose to enact, both of which are elected representatives and are in no way required to have military service, thus meaning that the people who bring the draft into effect may be so unequipped to understand it's proper us…
/r/MensRights29/06/14 05:53 AM
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But as well one must consider conversely, is in turn identifying the cause done so in a means to solve the problem or merely to understand the problem? If you would, let's say every day I wake up with a headache everyday, I don't know why. Someone whom merely wants to understand it would look for a satisfactory answer, perhaps, "I don't handle bright light well.", whether accurate or not, they at least BELIEVE they understand the answer. But if instead it's because every night while you're aslee…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 11:57 PM
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First, let's put aside the rules of evidence, this is a topic of 'beyond a reasonable doubt', rules of evidence being flawed is a problem with the laws, but once established you cannot say that evidence that doesn't count merits towards someone being found guilty, such would be ILLEGAL since such evidence cannot be used against the person, judges are meant to UPHOLD the law, and juries would never see such evidence, so that's something to take up with people who have influence on such matters, i…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:41 PM
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Ah, thanks for pointing that out, in all honesty I didn't know what chauvinism was, so given context and some similarities in letters (ch, v, a, and i though in different places) merely assumed they were basically the same idea. Just looked it up, and I see that they are rather different, though given the general context, they probably have rather similar meanings (the idea of placing women on a pedestal in chivalry, and how this is probably talking about a sorta female-centric chauvinism), but …
/r/MensRights10/06/14 10:51 PM
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But as well though the pope is not the church in of itself, the pope has, last I knew, a pretty nice and caring public image, not perfect but pretty good I believe (could be mistaken I don't follow the news on him too much). But still there is definitely validity in your point if he were to for example because the face of the MRA, it would certainly not paint us in a good picture unless the Church undergoes changes for the better, as it would paint us in a light similar to how we're already stra…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 08:29 PM
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..... Wow. When I saw that this was something Pope Francis was talking about feminism, as much as I loved him before I thought that it would have been more mainstream than this. Just wow, I can't believe that someone whom is such a great human being seems to actually be a public figure. I mean, even in this case, I don't just feel that his beliefs help make him a good person, but the manner he expressed it, it just comes off to me as a polite way of saying, "Things are better than they were 200 …
/r/MensRights10/06/14 08:11 PM
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"Ya know, 22 million woman being raped isn't that bad. It's better then last year!" For arguments sake, if 1.5 trillion (or 1,500,000 million) women had been raped the previous year (and every year before it), then you'd be an idiot to say that noting this DRAMATIC improvement (a reduction of over 99.998% of rapes) merits someone being banned. Would these 1,499,978 million women who didn't have to undergo the brutal act of rape mean that the 22 million who did shouldn't be cared about? Of course…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 03:13 AM
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I'm not sure about the sexual violence, since I've seen numbers various sources giving evidence that men a the majority victims of violence, but as well I haven't done my research about sexual violence, so it's possible that when it comes to sexual violence that it could be equal or more about men experiencing it, but I cannot make any sorta claims, merely that the ideas given to us by society are not necessarily reflective of reality, after all I doubt that few of us grew up getting messages th…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:47 AM
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The definition of rape obviously has it's problems, and that is because there is a ridiculously disproportionate amount of rape commited by men then by female. That makes no sense. If you would, you're saying that IF 90% of thefts were committed by people of color, that the legal definition of theft should include that it can only be committed by a person of color? That makes no sense, all it does is let the people whom do not fit that description commit that crime with nothing to worry about, i…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 04:21 AM
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I didn't source the claims made there due to the volume and that I knew the post was already going to be long so I didn't wish to take time to go and grab the links. Also while I can understand your skepticism (healthy and all), I would counter your 'sorta' accusation (it comes off as an accusation, though I imagine you're just stating your own anecdotal experiences since you only have your own experiences to shape your understanding of the world) myself with me having dealt MANY times with wome…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:39 PM
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Now, I do hope this doesn't come off as too aggressive because I see that you're clearly getting a lot of undeserved aggression throughout here. That is due to how you walked in here with certain beliefs that many of us here have come to believe are incorrect, leading people to likely associate you with the common type of people who come in here with such opinion, looking to start shit, and not just to talk, thus I would like to apologize for the aggression you have received here (and also my ra…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:02 AM
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There's actually a bit of a lapse in viewpoint in how you're seeing things I think. Your ideas aren't bad, but you must also consider a few more things. (I will be using gender terminology to reflect the commonality of how things would perhaps play out with current cultural norms in the western world that I'm aware of, I in no way mean to suggest that these situations are exclusive to one gender or the other) First, humans are social creatures, obviously you know this, but this doesn't just appl…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:02 PM
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Seems like a flat out horrible idea to me.... Not to say that no women should ever get basically this, if you've got some extreme cycles and all, if the doctor says that you can't work on certain days, you can't work on certain days, but there's no different than say if you've got a male coworker who despite all odds somehow gets pink eye monthly, sure it's unrealistic (while such an extreme cycle is FAAAAAAAAAAR more likely), but it is possible, so making this special rule and all would only se…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 04:30 AM
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I personally don't have a whole lot of experience, but one of the HUGE things the I encountered when I get into arguments regarding feminism is a HUGELY fallacious assumption that you'll likely encounter, unless you manage to tackle it you'll probably look like you're coming off as a stupid woman hating jerk. The idea that women's rights can ONLY be solved by feminism, that it is impossible in any permeation of reality, history, the universe, or anything, for an issue faced by women (on the basi…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 04:58 AM
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I misread it as "What is the most logical assumption you can figure about this?" I'm a bit tired, I don't exactly read things properly when I'm this tired. When I read it properly I changed my post entirely because it does change the relevance of the outrage/reasonability of the question ENTIRELY.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 09:18 AM
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Edit: WOW I HAD POOR READING COMPREHENSION. I thought that it said "Which is the most reasonable assumption" not "what is the most likely reason". Complete 180 in my views on this now, sorry about how I was going on about 'male names' and all. Darn my impaired reading abilities when tired.....
/r/MensRights12/05/14 08:05 AM
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(I'm male but want to give you my thoughts on one thing you said.) I guess you could call me a feminist but I hate that word. Then you aren't a feminist. This isn't some anti-feminism propaganda that I'm spouting here, plain and simple, feminism is a movement, a group of people who identify as a group. I myself hold views similar to your own, but I hate the idea of identifying as a feminist, groups that are given money to do feminist actions do not speak for me, I speak for me. But conversely I …
/r/MensRights07/05/14 07:49 PM
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THANK YOU. This is EXACTLY what we need to be doing, the abortion comparison is nothing short of a dead end. It's trying to take a highly controversial topic and jump on the bandwagon, trying to grab basically a feminist stance and make them agree with us with a sorta tongue-in-cheek "Well you're pro-choice right? Well then you MUST agree with this issue as well!" This is emotional and WRONG. The two are NOT the same, and since there are people whom are against choice painting the two issues as …
/r/MensRights06/05/14 06:47 PM
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I don't like giving foot traffic to sites like these, don't want them getting ad money for trying to spread beliefs/opinions that I want to give validity to (based on the reception I've been seeing here). Could someone offer either inform me that the link does not in fact lead to something in support of the ideas or give me a means of seeing what they say without having to visit the site? I do apologize but I am interested in seeing what is said rather than having to paste it together by people …
/r/MensRights06/05/14 06:19 PM
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And I have to admit I might take the small risk and wait until the second or third time before bringing up the contract. With this as a given option I think the contract is a pretty good idea, because if you're going to do it a 2nd/3rd time chances are you'll have more repeat interactions, as well it would make it so that if you somehow got someone whom intentionally gets pregnant to try to make you be a father (might want to define 'accidental' somewhere in there, since one might argue that if …
/r/MensRights04/05/14 04:37 PM
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I was thinking a similar thing. Which then means that you've gotta make 1 and/or 2 also be women about their husbands. And THEN you'd probably get someone complaining that you're saying women are either overly emotional or cruel monsters since in the given story 1 and 2 got rather emotional, and 3 was just brutal. While on the other hand, changing the joke a bit here or there when you retell it to choose the gender of the person killed may not be a bad idea if you know your audience. In our gyno…
/r/MensRights02/05/14 05:35 PM
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I don't support the simulation, nor do I support men or women dictating what other peoples experiences are - I can hold these two beliefs simultaneously. Yes, but I would like to point out, that, at least before I joined into this you had made.... 5 posts saying that individuals can't say what another person's experience is. And while that point is valid you said it in a rather incorrect way given the context. We're talking about a simulator that says that all women experience X. You've said fiv…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 04:22 PM
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And during the process of it you made a false equivocation of saying that this simulator is just as valid of talking about all women's experiences as Warren Farrell repeating what he was told by individuals about their experience. Huge difference in scale. Not only that but your point is a bit warped. In this thread you're CONSTANTLY saying men and women in regards to this experience stuff, and while yes no individual can tell another what their experience is, and yes this simulator is about fem…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:03 AM
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he reported the fact that some people said they found incest positive, they accused him of supporting incest. Bit different, he reported on what individuals said about their own experience, this simulator is trying to speak as to what EVERY woman's experience is like. Because I'm stating the fact that men cannot know what female experiences are In actuality, NO ONE can know what the 'true' female experience is. Not even women. Have they experienced it? Absolutely, at least assuming it exists. Bu…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:41 PM
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From what I've seen, I think that you're right.... But that your point is irrelevant. Yes, we cannot dictate what another person's experience is, this is NOT limited to men with women or vice versa, but I cannot dictate what my brother has gone through, and he can't for me. In fact your own argument actually FURTHER argues that this game is wrong, because (from my understanding) it's basically saying that there are NO women who don't experience sexual harassment, and maybe they all do, but if I …
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:58 AM
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Quite understandable, I'm actually a bit surprised that you got THROUGH everything I said, often times people are quite overwhelmed by the sheer volume of text that I give, and I'm sure you can see how reasonable that is and all, so especially when someone is taking a bit of a viewpoint so different from what I'm saying (given that we're in the MR sub, your defending of feminism is rather uncommon, at least compared to my more of attitude of criticism). I would love to discuss this with you and …
/r/MensRights26/04/14 06:51 AM
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So, seems that you 100% misunderstood my post, but that's fine, I can see how that would happen. First off I write things in an extremely long-winded and somewhat contrived manner, which often leads to people misunderstanding what I'm saying. And aside from that I see you getting a bit too personally invested in this. I was originally making a point by point sorta reply, but at a point I realized that it just wasn't the way to go. Still since it did hit on some ideas and all that I won't be here…
/r/MensRights25/04/14 07:52 PM
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While these are good points and all, I have in fact tried to approach how feminism isn't such a good thing with more moderate feminists from this sorta angle, and ultimately it came down to bull-headed argument on both sides. They said NAFALT, I said "BUT THEY'RE DOING ACTIONS IN THE NAME OF FEMINISM!" and they said NAFALT once again. While I do thank you very much for reminding me of these various things and giving me specific names to use and all, the general idea of this sorta argument is to …
/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:29 PM
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I checked your post history - you certainly don't spare the keyboard do you? Not to dampen your enthusiasm but to get more responses try being more concise. Sorry but it's not so much enthusiasm (at least most of the time) as it is a neurological thing. Got various sorta mental things that tend to lead to a more rambly nature including aspergers, as well even growing up with several people with highly similar atypical neurological makeups, I have ALWAYS throughout my entire life been one of the …
/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:15 PM
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You need to get ahead of this before it gets ahead of you, while obviously you don't know who may or may not be spreading this talk (after all maybe that one employee, while uncomfortable, just talked to 3 others, with no kids around, one of whom gave you the 'warning', another didn't do anything, and the third went around with all this talk now), but it could VERY MUCH become a serious concern I think, since the children are being involved and told not to talk to you, that's more of a problem I…
/r/MensRights13/04/14 12:10 PM
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Are you ashamed? Ashamed that your parents cared for each other enough to conceive a child? Ashamed that by mere chance YOUR consciousness formed on a body that just happened to both be white and male? That through this act of biology that has allowed her to live and breathe rather then have all of humanity die out several thousands (if not millions) of years ago. Being white and being male are not things you cannot help. There is no undo button. You can't walk into a 'life' store and start over…
/r/MensRights13/04/14 11:53 AM
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Lawyer up, get proof from her phone, document all interactions with her from now on. Never lay a finger on her and probably document where you are at all times. Based on what you've said, whether she had good reason or not (since the thing about her last two boyfriends may or may not be true, if we assume that it being true is 'good' reason then....), seems to me like she was being abusive ( http://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-a-Potentially-Abusive-Relationship ). She was trying to control your lif…
/r/MensRights12/04/14 01:29 AM
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It really gets me angry when I see people buy into this idiotic belief because if you gender-swap it (a woman getting wet) you'll almost always get a guaranteed that they don't think it equals consent, which shows that either they're too stupid to understand that arousal doesn't equal consent and thus just think that being wet doesn't equal consent, or they don't care enough about men to consider them HUMAN enough to think about what if it was gender-swapped. Arousal comes from physical stimulus…
/r/MensRights11/04/14 03:57 PM
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Since I doubt there's much point to agreeing with you about the problems in feminism, especially since this is a discussion about this sub and I only brought out feminism to give something to compare to that we could all agree on. I think here that you might be getting a bit over-technical here. I'm NOT saying that you're horrible or that you support the idea of sending hate-mail to such a mod, but generally you seem to be taking a rather aggressive stance of not believing the claims made (thoug…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 03:42 PM
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Counter point, is feminism not responsible for the shit stains in it's group? Answer, sometimes. When they're large and in charge, yes, when they're just a random 13 year old girl writing on her personal blog that no one takes seriously, no (assuming the opinions she has are the result of her own beliefs and actions and not force-fed to her from say NOW or anywhere else). I'm not saying that OP's indignation is justified, what I'm saying is to dismiss it simply because it isn't something that we…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 12:21 AM
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Wow this club seems to actually be going in a pretty decent direction if these posters are any indication of how they're being run. I do hope they are because these posters are nice. I especially like the "second-class victims" thing, it even hits ME hard, because I feel that it's far more 'accurate' than second-class citizens (in that victims much more easily hits the point of gender-role failings making it easier for people unwilling to listen more likely to properly understand what you're say…
/r/MensRights31/03/14 06:19 PM
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I agree with your sentiments but I want to be a bit super technical and point out two things. First I wouldn't necessarily say that it's for untrustworthy feminists, I imagine about 90% of the people we'd want to do this for do fall into such a category but if say you got a hard-core traditionalist on your hand I wouldn't say they're 'above' using such tactics that ABR are made to keep us safe from. Second, while ABR ISN'T for gender sorta targeting it is a LOT more effective when the untrustwor…
/r/MensRights30/03/14 05:19 PM
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Assuming both parties were involved in deciding on this, us being uncomfortable when we see it is actually a fault on our end. This is about the bride and groom, and since this is a picture this clearly isn't being used as like in the window on a cake store. There being a supply is merely to match a demand, the product would be removed from the books and all if no one wants it, and if someone DOES want it? That's their business to describe their relationship, or joke about it, or WHATEVER reason…
/r/MensRights29/03/14 09:04 PM
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but they were referring to the specific statement of Anita being a "fat ugly whore" and heavily implying that it was misogynistic based on that logic. Now I might be missing context of their post since I don't know anything else about the thread or what they were responding to, so I do apologize if such information completely changes the meaning of their post No no no no. That is NOT what they were saying they were using Anita as an EXAMPLE of their logic. They said I.E. before they started talk…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:26 PM
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Since this sorta entire time I've been referring to LemonFrosted's post, I'll quote what they said, And even if your reason for hating one specific woman isn't misogynistic, the way it's expressed might be Obviously if the logic is true it would also hold true for racism, misandry, or any other sort of discrimination, but they are specifically talking about misogyny. Anyways, since LemonFrosted then said I.E. what followed that statement was supposed to be an example of how your hatred to an ind…
/r/MensRights24/03/14 02:05 AM
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It just eats me up inside that our culture is preconditioning people to be apathetic. As it does with me. It has lead myself to do some rather unsavory things, trying to forcibly show someone bad things so that they may not turn a blind eye, despite repeated protests that they do not wish to see it. It is not WRONG that you feel so motivated to help, it is GOOD, but we must remember that even the apathetic individuals are still individuals, when they are doing no harm to others they are 'neutral…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:35 PM
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you seem to believe that calling a woman who's defending certain women's issues a fat who're is more a matter of discrediting her based on her opinions. Not at all. Such insults are about a person, the reason they're said can be for multiple reasons, they can be statements of belief (you believe they are fat, thus you call them fat, not necessarily an insult) or statements made to hurt someone (whether they actually are fat or not you're trying to make them upset). Regardless as to if it's A, B,…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 08:24 PM
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I agree fully, after all encouraging someone to help the homeless is not hurting the person you're encouraging. Nor is any sensible person hurt when they see you helping out the homeless (sadly, there is a reason I needed to say sensible there....). Also watching the video that you linked and all, I feel that it is a very powerful video that very much demonstrates why we should encourage people to help out. Thinking also to 'individual' responsibility for inaction, I recall that OP was not in a …
/r/MensRights23/03/14 01:44 PM
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Well yeah, but they never said that. And while that is a fault on their part for not using that much better example of their logic, it still works to support the logic they used. That's a simply irrelevant point about the conversation. In your response to them you seemed to confuse their point about the about what you say with the belief they hold about 'fat, ugly, whore'. While their belief of such comments being misogynist are provably false, if you were to 'assume' that they were for the sake…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 01:31 PM
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Just going to give you some of my thoughts and all, as someone else whom wants to help their fellow human and always does my best to do so, and also doesn't understand why apathy is as big a problem with these sorts of issues as it is. I actually mulled over this sorta issue a bit ago. If we accept that on large a community is responsible when they collectively are apathetic and do not work to 'solve' a problem (while I'm not sure of the accuracy, I have heard that 5 out of 6 of the Nazis did no…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 03:08 AM
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While I completely agree the banning was WAY out of line (though again, what do you expect against a sub that takes such exception to equality and all that they'd say they're against people's rights?) I do think that your comment was a bit off the note and all. I know, irrelevant, this is about the banning and all because that was way out of line, but your sorta rebuttal to the person's comment is nipping at my mind a bit. REGARDLESS as to if they have a valid point about misogyny, doesn't matte…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 02:24 AM
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Somehow from that unhappy occurrence, you have made a massively huge leap, and believe that some day in the future she might make a false rape allegation against you. Ah, here's where your misunderstanding of my inner-workings of my mind seem a bit at fault. Specifically believethat some day in the future I do not believe it will happen. The chances of it are rather miniscule. You're making a rather big assumption that I must believe something in order to act to prevent it. This very much goes a…
/r/MensRights23/03/14 01:46 AM
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Paranoia mostly. Irrational and all I know, and while definitely wouldn't be good if it was because of threads and all did it, but it stems from some genetic stuff, my siblings also have it. Because of it I managed to connect the fact that she knows my first and last name, she knows my voice, my voice, she has a lot of stuff that she could send to try to get me tracked down if she wanted to falsely accuse me of stuff (with police resources and all). As a result, in MOST situations this would mea…
/r/MensRights21/03/14 06:29 AM
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The second one is flat out not an option for me for a bunch of very personal reasons. All across the process. What I think I'll do is keep a record of ALL interactions between us, since 6 months ago into the future (as best as I can). And not do any recording stuff unless I feel there's a reason TO worry, as things are she wouldn't do anything legal against me, and because of a few personality quirks in me I do plan on sorta checking up to see if she gets extremely depressed or such at any time,…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 11:22 PM
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Regardless of the reasons, this is just a falling out between two people. The politics are irrelevant. ..... You're right.... I REALLY need to stop trying to cram in the politics of this :/ She's pissed off right now and being vocal about it. That will probably subside in a few days. Vocal part yes. The being pissed off won't. I've seen her with other falling outs, she does not forgive. Unless she makes some threat or contacts someone inappropriate (like an employer or your family) there's not m…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:43 PM
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Thanks for the advice! You have not done any kind of video chatting Yeaaaaaahhhh..... about that..... I have made videos and all for her to help cheer her up, was a monthly thing for awhile, short story behind it, is that generally she didn't feel like she got enough sorta 'face to face' interaction with like people she trusted and all (wasn't a fan of video or voice chatting), so to sorta compromise I'd send her a video helping boost her self esteem about like once a month and all for a period …
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:33 PM
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Sorry for jumping on ya there. No problems, I recognize that you were trying to help me, and let's be fair, if 100 people posted what I did, it's usually written from their self-defending position (opposed to my more.... self-targeting position I guess, by pointing out my problems, not mentioning hers), so makes absolute sense that you'd take it more as such. Was a lot of text so I missed the context of what you were asking about. Yeah.... I'm REALLY bad at rambling. Was born like this, was one …
/r/MensRights20/03/14 10:27 PM
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In other words, you goaded a friend with a sensitive subject, proceeded to discuss it badly, they got pissed off and stopped being your friend Yep. Working on not being such an asshole in the future. you want to not do that in the future? Nope, well not the question I asked I mean. I want to know what sort of things I should do so that IF somehow she thinks that it'd be a good idea to send a false accusation (whether of rape or abuse or whatever) my way that I will have myself covered to prove t…
/r/MensRights20/03/14 09:42 PM
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Could I? Yes. Do I?..... Yes. Nothing about establishing ground rules, just being an idiot and allowing myself to engage them in argument. To be fair she is attacking my character a ton and even taking jabs at my girlfriend some. Also I don't plan on taking legal action, mainly trying to sorta cover my ass, be able to prove that I could not have raped her if she ever gets to a point where she thinks that she should do that. I doubt she would, but I'm paranoid and I've been on this sub enough to …
/r/MensRights20/03/14 09:39 PM
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I find it a bit interesting that they share the same name save the woman only part. The way I see it there are two ways you can take this (they are not mutually exclusive mind you). First, obvious, they're saying that ONLY women don't know this basic stuff, thus basically saying that it's so easy that every penis automatically imbues us men with this knowledge, or however you want to look at it, the implication that only women could not know this stuff is there and sexist. Second, I notice how t…
/r/MensRights19/03/14 12:19 AM
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Seeing both of your points I'd just like to offer in my sorta thoughts. I'm going to try to give two quick but short 'examples' to show the best of what is meant. If you were for example a private security firm, and you were hiring people to be bodyguards, if one of your potential employees said during the interview, "Will I get a gun? Can I take the gun home? Can I shoot people with it? If I kill someone in my free time with the gun I was given would you guys bail me out?" The potential employe…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 06:45 PM
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Perhaps use exact examples, like the tender years doctrine. Before the Tender years doctrine (which originated from feminism and was advocated by feminists, easy for her to look up with a name if she wants to argue with you about this) men got custody of children usually because it was considered taking care of the children and the financial responsibility went hand in hand. If she still believes that the bias in custody towards women is because of the patriarchy (especially if she doesn't think…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 01:50 PM
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I agree, that's why throughout all of my stuff (in this thread not just this string of comments) I say that I feel their choice of using 'pride' in the name of this group was a bad decision. It does little to get 'neutral' attention initially (someone did make a devil's advocate that the choice of words will draw more attention in general, likely in people trying to call it evil, which if they actually spread a message of equality will usually get the people who are now looking at it to think it…
/r/MensRights18/03/14 01:13 AM
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Personally, I agree with your point, I have myself at times thought it silly to celebrate pride based off of how or where your were born or who your parents or great great great great grandparents where or anything else that you didn't really 'accomplish', and in turn for 'advertising' I think it's really good. But who says we're talking about advertising or trying to 'convince' people? If you would, what if the point isn't to get straight people to respond to the message but instead to that gay…
/r/MensRights17/03/14 10:58 PM
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Gotta say, I really enjoy seeing you post email things, you're very well worded and you make it so easy for the rest of us to do the same as you, and I really enjoy the sorta diversity and all of the sorta topics I see you popping in on with these. Just wanted to thank you I guess for making it easier for people like me to be able to take action and send emails that help raise awareness and all.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 08:19 PM
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I find that a bit interesting since I'd gathered from a lot of Japanese media and all a much different sense. Plus as well I guess perhaps my sorta thing about 'big and bountiful' may not be in place, the unless I am mistaken it's extremely rare for a female past puberty to have breasts as small as say a 7 year old likely would, so whether they're aimed to be small or such does not necessarily invalidate the idea of them being signs of fertility and thus a 'sexual' association. After all there c…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 05:51 PM
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I actually saw a really good sorta look into this topic, when it comes to breasts on a woman they have likely ALWAYS been viewed as sorta sexual in human society, a sign of fertility, think about it, a girl who hasn't gone through puberty will likely have basically no breasts (even some of the smaller breasts that I've seen on girls that have gone through it are usually bigger than you'd see on a 7 year old), while a woman who's older and can't really have children they will start to sag, big bo…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:31 PM
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I'm not assuming that they're misrepresenting their message, sorry if I didn't make that clear, because of how I am I'm a bit paranoid, as a result I can't help but think about things from many different points of view sorta at the same time. What I put there was just one of the sorta thoughts that I had that COULD be why they used 'girl' instead of 'child', perhaps they are completely aware that 'child' is more apt but chose to use 'girl' (and the picture of the girl to go with it) in an attemp…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:59 AM
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The mention of Fox News was probably their way of giving some context about the kind of things she was talking about with Obama, while there are definitely reasons to yell at him (and I'm one of the people who voted for him, which I'm not sure if I regret because I still wouldn't have voted for the other guy either way) Fox News sometimes goes out of hand with it. I've seen them criticism Obama in one breathe, and then praise Putin for the exact same thing in the next, I've seen them yell at Oba…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:42 AM
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To be fair, girl is probably more effective for getting donations in our world and I personally cannot fault Unicef for that (assuming it's true, might not be, but read some things indicating that it is) and so long as the money they get is actually for educating children (how much they focus on girls I won't comment because last I knew they focused on countries that could potentially have a different availability of education for different genders) in general, I don't exactly see anything wrong…
/r/MensRights16/03/14 09:29 AM
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I agree with what you've said 100% and is the reason I feel that when paternal surrender arguments compare it to abortion is sorta does us a bit of a disservice by making us appear more intellectually dishonest, by passing up a perfect comparison for a less perfect one. I personally would be happy if paternal surrender became legal even if just during the same time-frame as abortion, while men would then ultimately have fewer rights than women in regards to parental responsibilities and all (sin…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 11:19 PM
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I'm not saying that not having legal paternal surrender makes any sense, but when it comes to arguing our case I think that it's better to compare it to safe haven laws. If we compared child support to rape we'd be making a rather fallacious argument, exaggerating our end, there certainly ARE comparisons between abortion and legal paternal surrender, especially when a father isn't even legally allowed to be FIRED from a job or at least not legally allowed to go for a long time without a job, but…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:02 PM
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While that may be the case, I still feel that 'safe haven' sorta laws are far more comparable to legal paternal surrender..... Well until we get to just how SEVERE child support gets, stuff like how it never goes down even when you're unemployed, you'll be sent to jail, some of the dirty tactics that generally make it illegal for you to do what you want with your life, stuff that even a FATHER has a legal right to do without getting their child taken away. When not being in the child's life resu…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:43 PM
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This is a bit off topic but I personally feel that abortion and legal paternal surrender aren't actually directly comparable? Why? Because paternal surrender leave the child to be cared for by not you (thus SOMEONE has to front the 18 year bill), abortion results in no child at all (thus no 18 year bill). THAT SAID, while I haven't fully researched the topic so I might be a bit misinformed, I believe that just about anywhere a mother could leave a child up to be adopted and all without any real …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 05:30 PM
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The more of point that I'm getting at isn't that we should apologize for being male, I do agree with you that is NOT something we should apologize for, and something that we should never feel ashamed about ourselves for being! But a group more geared towards trying to bring about equality and all is less likely to get more 'neutral' people (whom are likely to be skeptical of a men's focused movement in today's more gynosympathetic world) to come when it comes off seeming more 'radical' and all. …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 02:50 PM
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Just remembered you did this, so I got to watching it, the first few minutes and all were a bit interesting but felt a bit..... 'Reaching'. Not to say that they were wrong but to me it came off a bit of like over-analyzing the processes involved and all with the sorta mentioned acts. While perhaps absolutely correct, after all it is grounded in logic and seems psychologically valid if you ask me, comes off a bit.... dehumanizing with how it refers to practices shown by a large portion of individ…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:38 AM
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I for one am taking pride in this instance to be more liberal, rather it's not say walking around saying, "I'm awesome because I'm a guy!" but rather pride is being used as the opposite of shame, it is wrong if anyone makes you feel ashamed SIMPLY for having a penis, and if you hold 'pride', or rather are comfortable and assured that you're a 'human' that you can walk around with people saying that you should be ashamed of having a penis and manage to shake it off and all, that's generally what …
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:54 AM
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Yes, but how do you think the public would respond to say a heterosexual pride parade? I'm not saying that we as men shouldn't be proud of who and what we are and accept ourselves, I just don't think it's the best way to get someone passing by this poster to read it and think, "Huh, maybe I should listen to what they have to say."
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:31 AM
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Fair point. All the more reason for the group to make sure that they're always recording, polite, and carrying a big list of sources.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:29 AM
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Gays are generally accepted as a minority, a group 'facing' oppression, thus a "Female Pride Movement" likely would not face criticism or opposition unless it proved through actions that this specific group is bad. It would hit the random student (whom is more likely to believe in a world where women are oppressed if they're in say the USA, especially since they lack a lot of real world experience) probably akin to a "white supremest group", obviously we both know that's not what it is, but when…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:29 AM
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That there isn't, but the idea that MOST people in today's more feminist world is it would sound as if you're asserting that men are better than women. You know better, I know better, but will the random students know better? That's more of why I don't think it was a good idea, to most random people it may come off similar to a white supremest group, and thus not worth listening to.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:22 AM
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That's really sad to hear. I hope that the club doesn't follow suit, if so it will only help validate the straw-men arguments that are used against us a lot of the time by BEING a group where that stuff actually is accurate for.... Please keep us updated and all about how things with this club go!
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:00 PM
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I don't think calling it the "Male Pride Movement" is a good idea, sorta hits the ear more like they're praising men over women and all. I suggest even if you don't want to go OP, that you drop a piece of paper or something with some tips. Always Be Recording. Always be polite. Always have sources and all to back them up. I imagine there will be some individuals who won't take too kindly to the club even though it seems to be speaking about some very good ideas and all.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 08:59 PM
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Very rarely is anyone 100% correct, including myself. I don't mind this exchange, it is curious to me. I know that I myself am rarely, if ever, 100% correct myself as well, was just making it clear that if a lack of desire to continue this exchange arises, neither of us, I think, will come out a 'loser' for having had it, after all at this point I think it's fairly obvious we're comparing ideas. I do find myself having to switch to desktop due to walls of text. My apologies, I will try to contai…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:57 PM
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So I read this on the 14th and now I'm feeling a bit conflicted about emailing RAINN tomorrow. I know that the emails and all won't be yelling at them or calling them evil people or such, but iunno, I kinda feel like they maybe deserve some slack for tomorrow.... And that's even with my paranoid brain whispering that they did this in order to pre-empt the March 15th emailing thing. Could I have some thoughts from people one way or the other about if, with this having happened, emailing RAINN is …
/r/MensRights14/03/14 07:15 PM
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two words: temperance movement. I will look this up but going to put the rest of my thoughts and all here (if you don't wish to carry on this conversation you can stop posting and I won't walk away thinking that I'm 100% right). Men could work full time over here or, men could work full time over there. Women could marry a man over here, or she could marry a man over there. I'm not going to date what time period I'm referring to since the general ideas apply even going back to cave people time, …
/r/MensRights07/03/14 01:38 AM
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Aside from this, which freedoms would you be referring to? I'll definitely agree that women are the first to have a 'free' vote, so I'll set voting aside, but freedom to pursue careers, if they WANT to work in coal mines, before they could not, and now they can. Will they? Probably not. I personally believe that before men had 'freedom' in the past (if they wanted to they could become inventors, if they wanted to they could become politicians, the only thing they could not really do was be a sta…
/r/MensRights06/03/14 07:46 PM
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Ah, that context is a very sound one, at the point of writing this little bit I've only read about the first four sentences. I do hope that I did not misrepresent my views I am not in support of feminism as a movement and at times tend to find myself more agreeing with girlwriteswhat's more radical view that feminism is tainted beyond redemption, a social movement that is being run by people appeasing to the radical elements. While I recognize that a large portion are moderates, I also tend to b…
/r/MensRights05/03/14 01:16 PM
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Not trying to like attack you or anything because regardless of your opinion of circumcision, in regards to the topic of engaging and arguing and all you're not being an ass or really anything. But just a counter-point. You stated your opinion. Since you weren't really looking to argue I'm guessing you probably weren't looking to convince the person whom it was a reply to and all, just giving your thoughts. By this then logic where a position and topic were placed and you gave your response so t…
/r/MensRights03/03/14 07:45 PM
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Your post reminded me about /u/Everything_is_rape and then I got a sad when I remember that they seem to have disappeared.... ..... You have psychologically raped me by indirectly making me feel sad!
/r/MensRights28/02/14 08:23 PM
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A personal attack, homophobia, AND misogyny? Tsk tsk, not really becoming of you Jeremy. These sorts of unfounded behaviors are very much disapproved of here in the men's rights subreddit! Though I'm sure your post won't be removed by anyone else because we believe in free-speech, I hope all the downvotes you get will help teach you a lesson to not insult gays, women, and your fellow human being!
/r/MensRights28/02/14 01:23 PM
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21 year old (edit: responding because based on your wording it seemed to me you were talking about half of all users here are 17 rather than the specific people you asked to come into this thread) who spent math class every year teaching half the class how to do the work (though as you'll likely see later on in this post my grammar is far from perfect) and who my college classes were too slow for me that my grades were unaffected by not even attending the classes (aside from the ones with tests)…
/r/MensRights28/02/14 12:03 PM
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The 'private business' comment, suggesting that if the university was entirely uninvolved in her sexist business practices that in turn the practices are fine. As someone who tends to believe that economics SHOULD work things out, I agree with the sorta sentiment, but that's the argument they were referring to.
/r/MensRights27/02/14 04:28 PM
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As someone who makes the argument (at least sometimes), to me I believe that the argument being made isn't so much about say making it immune from criticism, because I at least don't agree with what this girl is doing, and in fact the reason why I'm okay with not being informed about every law it may or may not violate is actually because I EXPECT it to receive criticism, I expect people like OP to be unwilling to give her business, and thus reduce her profits, effectively instead of punching or…
/r/MensRights27/02/14 04:26 PM
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I figured as much since her use of "Right" would be rather poor if planned but if rather as a habit like "um...." or "like" or such things it's not the worst out there because it still at least SEEMS more 'planned' than the far more common habits, like the two that I mentioned. Doesn't mean that it doesn't hit my ear wrong after he says several times. I wasn't so much 'faulting' her for saying it as much as I was saying what crossed my mind while listening to the speech, only reason I mentioned …
/r/MensRights25/02/14 03:24 AM
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Even on their own website... I usually don't like giving traffic to websites supporting these sort of opinions and all but this is DAMN good counter-NAFALT material. You don't even need to CRITICIZE it, any person with common sense whom isn't already biased against men a whole lot can plainly see that NOW is stating that they aren't for equality (at least in this situation) and are attacking someone for having an equality based opinion. I'm probably going to be upsetting several of my moderate f…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 06:04 AM
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I doubt many here would argued against first wave feminism While I agree with almost everything you said, I want to be a bit nit-picky here, just spread some information and all. I have at least heard and also read (was on wikipedia, can't remember the article and lost the link, so feel free to not take me at my word) that back before women's suffrage feminism wasn't.... perfect as your statement sorta implies. When the issue of giving black people the right to vote there was a good number of fe…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 12:16 AM
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One must remember, the NAFALT argument is ACTUALLY RIGHT. It's how it's USED that makes it wrong. Just as there are terrorists who are Muslims, not all Muslims are terrorists, nor are all terrorists Muslims, it is the same with feminists. The NAFALT argument is wrong because it's used to EXCUSE radical feminists, /u/knihovna did not brush aside radicals, he's talking about a specific individual and how they are in fact not radical, they also referred to the concept wherein there are plenty of mo…
/r/MensRights19/02/14 12:05 AM
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One must remember that the 'general use' of feminist is in reference to one being supportive of women's rights (whether they are supportive or opposed to men's rights varies depending on who you ask), and assuming you use that and that one must consider themself a feminist to define who is and isn't a feminist, most people who are feminists are not people who hate men. The fact that the movement tends to be more hateful of men does not mean that every member is. If you would, I'm not saying that…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 11:42 PM
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I've heard a few myself, egalitarian, humanist (I personally would say avoid that one since there's already an existing definition that has nothing to deal with equality), and equalist (only existing usage refers to a group in a cartoon that's more discriminatory to magic users, due to our lack of 'bending' in the real world I think that it's fair play for using to say that you're pro-equality) If you don't like those terms make up your own. You have a right to identify however you want, no matt…
/r/MensRights18/02/14 09:59 PM
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The only time I think that a first day going dutch isn't the way is when we're talking about the parties holding a rather unequal situation. For example if you're good friends with the person before you start dating them, you've got a well paying job, but they're unemployed right now, the person whom has income paying for the date entirely just makes sense. Or maybe one of the two parties forgot their wallet or something and will pay you back (even if a lie, no one's perfect, by the second date …
/r/MensRights17/02/14 08:35 PM
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That's a rather broad statement that I disagree with. If someone has intentionally brought about mental trauma upon you even if not breaking any laws, intentionally damaging your psyche in a noticeable and demonstrable way, should you not be able to have aide from the government to attempt the get help based off of the damage done to you by the other? (For example a parent abusing a child but the statute of limitations has run out) Conversely, if I order a coffee from McDonalds and it's not labe…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 09:17 AM
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While men and women on average may have a different outlook on things, one must also consider that the scope is narrowed by interest, when it comes to tech you're not going to get someone who's mind is very 'people' driven (regardless if it's a man or woman) to be like the lead developer and be able to use that their mind works like this completely (or at least not as well as the current sort of 'perspectives' already in the tech field), because the fact that their mind works like that leads the…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:44 AM
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Cop basically did something illegal I believe, what are they going to do, call the cops? I'm not saying that they're all crooked or whatever but they're bound to have some friends around, if you cause a stink then you can be more sure that things will be looked into. We're not talking about coffee not labelled being hot, we're talking about illegal harassment and an abuse of power not only inconviencing but also causing a level of mental anguish as the situation comes about, police aren't suppos…
/r/MensRights17/02/14 02:29 AM
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As a high-functioning aspergers case who has a bunch of siblings, several friends, and a dad with aspergers (most mild cases but I do have one sibling who is at least close to low-functioning, and all the ones I'm thinking of have been diagnosed by professionals), I 100% agree.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 08:35 PM
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[I want to apologize, the post I originally typed out.... Is too long. It is longer than the reddit post limit allows. I find myself having difficulties shortening it up and all, so I'll be splitting it into two posts. BECAUSE IT IS LONGER THAN I AM ALLOWED FOR ONE POST I WILL STATE THAT I IN NO WAY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO READ ALL OR EVEN ANY OF IT. I have difficulties expressing my thoughts not in this way, and would be more inclined to remain silent then post this in a different way.…
/r/MensRights16/02/14 08:13 PM
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[I want to apologize, the post I originally typed out.... Is too long. It is longer than the reddit post limit allows. I find myself having difficulties shortening it up and all, so I'll be splitting it into two posts. BECAUSE IT IS LONGER THAN I AM ALLOWED FOR ONE POST I WILL STATE THAT I IN NO WAY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO READ ALL OR EVEN ANY OF IT. I have difficulties expressing my thoughts not in this way, and would be more inclined to remain silent then post this in a different way.…
/r/MensRights16/02/14 08:13 PM
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Sorry for the delayed response (stuff kept happening), and also sorry for how long this will be, I have a lot of difficulties not rambling on, and I do hope that I do not take up too much of your time needlessly. It's not necessarily that women or feminists are to blame, at least not for the draft. Unless I am mistaken I at no point said that such people are to blame for these legal policies of.... 'male disregard' (I may be forgetting since it has been a few days, and if I said feminists are to…
/r/MensRights16/02/14 07:25 AM
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I doubt my experience will be that insightful, just sorta generally picked up on the more sexist sorta cultural beliefs, whether caused by feminism, gender roles, feminism+gender roles, all sorts of things. Had a few conversations where I was arguing with people who actually were more for men's rights in today's modern western world, started to become more fearful of perhaps being falsely accused of rape (I'm not the best looking and one day in Japanese class saw the movie 'Handsome Suit' that h…
/r/MensRights12/02/14 07:30 PM
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it is men in the legislature and military who made up those rules You're subscribing to the apex fallacy, the idea that because most people with power are men, that most men have power. In the USA a lot of politicians are against giving the homeless any sort of aid, financial or otherwise, even people who they themselves needed it at a period of time. Since most homeless are men, this distinctly shows a LACK of going out of their way to help fellow penis holders. Usually the people in power are …
/r/MensRights12/02/14 07:07 PM
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Problem is, where do the funds for feminism go? When people donate, when the government gives money, what does it go? To groups like NOW that are against shared custody because it believes men are abusers, to groups who lobby against having men's health boards. Feminism has an arm in academia, women's studies, that serves to teach the people who attend the classes (from all the various examples I've seen of what goes on in these classes) that ALL men are oppressing ALL women, if a male student a…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:54 AM
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In furtherance of an argument of equality consider the 'quality' of single mothers vs single fathers who have children. The bar is lower for mothers, so even when we're talking about split custody unless you have the worst mother and the best father you can't necessarily guarantee that the courts would grant sole custody to the father if the mother wanted to be in the child's life. Obviously it does happen in the real world but judges vary in bias. So a less capable mother will be awarded more t…
/r/MensRights10/02/14 05:28 PM
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To be fair, that percentage isn't how likely a mother is to abuse her child but out of total abuse how much mothers (as the sole abuser) account for abuse, if you notice when you go down to totals it comes to 100%, so that percentage again just reflects hard numbers it compared how many mother abusers there are to father abusers to mothers and fathers to every other item on the list.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 05:23 PM
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Seems I did miss a few points, mainly the 'possibility of sharing intimate situations', which when combined with the point of you talking about a censored space and all, does make what I was saying entirely irrelevant, my apologies.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 09:53 AM
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How can you find personal safety, trust and comfort in an online blog? To be fair that's a purely subjective belief. In truth I can feel safe and relaxed talking about how feminism is evil even if I go to a feminist website, or talk about how gays are ruining the world at a pro-gay website. I would probably end up being blocked eventually and no matter how much I may have failed to read things or really understand the 'feedback' I was getting at the website or even a group meeting (if I went to …
/r/MensRights10/02/14 03:08 AM
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I agree, that's why I don't think she did 'bad', because it is some hard stuff to do. Doesn't mean that I can't be a critic even if I don't feel she didn't do anything wrong, or have the perfectionist in me point out different things. Was just mentioning my thoughts, I feel she did VERY well.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:14 PM
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If by "absolute truth" you mean that science is the only demonstrable method to show a verifiable increase knowledge, then I agree. But if you had meant that we can know anything for absolute certainty, this is an impossible, so I'll just assume you didn't mean that. Yeah, didn't mean to put things in a way that suggested that what we believe in science as an absolute truth, but rather as a means of demonstrating an increase in knowledge. I guess really the more of stuff that I was looking at wa…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 05:48 AM
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To the more beginning stuff about faith, definitely not an area that I'm well informed about so thus going to have to default to what you're saying since it seems to be more correct. My comment about science being an absolute was sorta referring to a more vague idea, while nothing in science is known as absolute and all the processes by which it examines the universe and all is distinctly more.... intellectual, gives a better understanding of the universe, all of that, compared to religion, if y…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 04:07 AM
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To be fair, modern technology has made a HUGE dent in that, it's likely sort of that sorta argument has be handed down and they don't give it up not because it's still accurate today, but probably partially because they believe it (if you've been told by everyone who's ever done housework in your life when you were a child that it was so hard and time consuming, you may come to believe it even when you put in minimal effort) and partially because I mean, women are sorta allowed to pull sorta bul…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 03:31 AM
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To be fair though I doubt that back when they thought the Earth was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth that Christians called their mindless belief 'faith' in the same way we'd call it today, wherein you recognize that your mind is kinda made up and won't 'change' that God is out there and all (though opinions on the realism vs metaphorical stuff of the bible vary a lot). They probably still used 'faith' but it was probably more considered 'fact' back then, back then there wasn't 'religi…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 02:50 AM
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Proud that she stepped up, even though she made a joke in the beginning about snipers and all, wasn't exactly the furthest off base she could have been, she probably did have a level of fear of what might happen (not that it'd slow her down or anything but doesn't mean the fear's not there) and she still put herself in the public eye and all. She did a good job during the Q and A to listen, be respectful, and try to address ideas properly (mainly thinking about the more of the shouting feminist …
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:51 AM
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I would agree, I found it so strange that the manhood academy is so masculine and all given that it seems to imply that it believes in Men's Rights (which as we all know rather against the standard gender roles being enforced yet they weren't just 'acting' masculine but sorta trying to use masculinity to shame others). I mean I've even heard that like red pill reddittor's tend to call MR people more as if they're more feminine and such, generally MRA's tend to not be too heavily masculine as a w…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:36 AM
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Just walking in here, I think that I'm going to have to agree with /u/TRPACC on this one. All three of us agree, she was wrong and stupid and spouting bullshit, there's no real question about her conduct. His conduct comes more into question. Now, since we're more informed and understand that she was a raving lunatic basically, or severely brainwashed, or whatever, people who don't know better wouldn't know that. If they just witnessed that little debate between them and not the rest of the vide…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:26 AM
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While rather unrelated, and I hate to be a downer but your question reminds me of how in the recent Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate the final question asked was what would change their mind. Bill Nye said evidence, Ken Ham said nothing. I think that's rather apt sorta in regards to this, what would change our mind about our stance on male victims of rape? Evidence, not just changing the definition of rape. Meanwhile a lot of parallels can be drawn between Feminism and Christianity (even more than com…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:09 AM
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I wouldn't agree on coercion, because well, a woman can use the law to her advantage, she can use false rape, abuse, or whatever accusations and even if the courts didn't find in her favor (which when it comes down to his word against her word her word will almost always come out since humans are more sympathetic to women, actually been studies showing that men have an out of gender bias in favor of women, and women have an in gender bias in favor of women, GENERALLY speaking) you'd still have a…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 11:55 PM
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Calls me a coward while running away from what I say Thinks that a webcam somehow makes an argument valid and not the argument itself Claims to be the public when everyone in this subreddit knows that not even the moderate versions of this guys belief are public opinion Projecting Good luck bro, you're going to need a lot of it if you think this is how you think people get ahead in the real world, by being radical feminists with different beliefs.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 10:24 PM
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There is no reason to believe that woman on male forced penetration is more common than male on woman penetration. NOT what I was saying (though reasonable to assume that's what I meant), I meant it as woman on male forced TO penetrate is more common than male on woman forced TO penetrate. Also to be fair, in today's world, women and men are actually pretty 'equal' in ability to force themselves on the other I believe. Even if we ignore more manipulative tactics which would favor women (while mo…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 10:05 PM
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BULLSHIT claims Ha ha, okay, I'll do this, I'll show you how I'm not the one making bullshit claims, I don't feel like wasting my time by following you to your home and debating you there when you feel that proper debate begins with "you cowardly piece of shit". I mean that's just IDIOT talk right there, as dumb as I might think you are at least I'm not CHILDISH enough to resort to name calling, but hey, you're still a human, so as much as I may be feeding the troll, I'll show you why I make my …
/r/MensRights07/02/14 10:02 PM
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Okay then, I misunderstood what you were saying, I apologize, was under the impression that you were asserting that forced to penetrate falls under sexual harassment because it's very different from rape, and in turn when it comes to forced to penetrate in PRACTICE men on women and women on men are 'similar' if not equal or something along those lines. Both ARE possible, one is FAR less likely to happen in practice (I believe that woman on male forced penetration is more likely than man on woman…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 09:35 PM
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She basically exposed all the hypocritical keyboard warriors in this subreddit Yes she did that when she said called us moderates and praised our openness and willing to listen! It's not at all that you're lieing out your ass! Dude, she LITERALLY SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you claim she said. This comment will ALSO get removed like the LAST one because LIEING probably isn't something that we want to PROMOTE. Seriously we have to FIGHT feminists who make shit up, why the fuck do you make thi…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:45 PM
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Yes, because we're the ones saying that the gender we aren't fighting rights for can't be raped. We're the ones who have people claiming that you can rape someone by looking at them, and any arguing with such a person gets you labelled as sexist. We're the ones with studies that have people we survey say they weren't raped, and we said they actually were to fudged the numbers to get a number like oh iunno 1 in 4 people are raped (which if I recall correctly was also a number for raped OR sexuall…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:37 PM
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A man can be made to penetrate a woman. A woman can be made to penetrate by a man. So you're suggesting that when it comes to male/female sex, when someone is forcing sex upon the other party against their will (going to ignore homosexual sort of rapes because I'd be making a lot of assumptions if I tried to guess the 'role' of the rapist and the victim on average, with it able to go either way in both situations) that there are equal number of criminal men will have women put fingers up their (…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:31 PM
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I found it ironic how she was saying that men have safe places to talk about things WHEN SHE WAS INVADING A PLACE THAT WAS MEANT TO BE SAFE. Seriously, SHE made that place unsafe, thus making the idea that (main) point that she had wrong. And how despite how she was just a ranting radical who was spouting nonsense and wouldn't listen, she wasn't interrupted, yelled at, or called stupid by Karen.... Though I couldn't catch most of the little dialogue she had with the member of the audience who sp…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:12 AM
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Sorry don't mean to reply to your post but since the previous comment was removed I would really much like to know, if anyone could obtain the information, if the previous comment was removed by the poster or someone else, I got a screen cap of it if it would help, but my gut is telling me that the poster removed it (and the placeholder is still there because there was a reply to it, iunno how reddit works entirely but I'm guessing it does that) which would then suggest to me that the 'censorshi…
/r/MensRights07/02/14 06:46 AM
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Just letting you know, it's back up
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:27 AM
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Seems that it happened after the streaming finished and it wasn't private until then. Hopefully the recorded version will get uploaded soon, really want to see what all happened without having to guess what happened from people's comments. Edit: And it's back up.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:09 AM
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A nice example that can be helpful if you want a clear cut sorta issue to use, child custody. Begin by mentioning how long ago it went hand in hand with financial responsibility, so it was sexist and fathers got custody by default and all, you have now sorta 'sided' with them by saying that such a situation was unfair, then bring up that the tender years doctrine changed it the other way around, and now at least in the USA, NOW a large organization using the feminist name and money that is meant…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 07:56 AM
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Feminists just want a world where businesses bend over forwards, and give feminists everything they want, without them having to ask or communicate it. I find it a bit interesting to also consider how I see a bunch of talk about when it comes to dating, how a lot of stuff comes sorta down to being able to do this with women. I wonder if 1. Just as it seems to be with the various examples mentioned women tend to expect others to be mind readers more often, 2. If so is this because of more DNA/Hor…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 11:40 AM
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That's actually how almost all people with money play the game, after all the only reason all companies stopped having people fall into vats of food and melt because they were too cheap to afford railing, or stop hiring children who got fingers crushed in gears and all while working, and pay these workers who risk this nickels and all is because the government stepped in and said they couldn't. Don't get me wrong I don't like modern western feminism as much as the next non-radical here, but I fe…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 09:58 AM
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It really does. http://permutationofninjas.org/post/74318458698/modern-feminisms-way-of-dealing-with-mras-is-like-the
/r/MensRights02/02/14 07:52 PM
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Always hate it when people say bullshit like this, because they just think that women are superior to men and are using the fact that women don't run the world to be able to say situations that would never happen would actually happen. I can say with the exact same amount of truth: If monkeys ran the world AIDs would be cured. If parrots ran the world economic problems would disappear. If babies ran the world we would advance 500 years in technology. If modern computers ran the world then we'd a…
/r/MensRights02/02/14 07:46 PM
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don't blindly assume that either gender is evil or good, take each individual as themselves. Ah, got a very different message from how you worded things, given where it was posted it came OFF sounding like you were saying (to me at least) "No one has it worse," (implying they should suck it up) I am sorry for my misunderstanding, didn't realize that you were ACTUALLY saying "Anyone is just as capable of evil regardless of gender," (implying that it's horrible that the situations talked about in …
/r/MensRights31/01/14 06:47 AM
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I am sorry you had to go through all that, that you were born unable to do some things most can do, but there is a bit of a difference here. Saying that one is a victim in the scenario talked about by this topic does not mean the same thing as accepting yourself as a victim in your scenario. Your scenario is sadly unchangeable (even if you wouldn't want it changed you deserve to have that option, that choice). While how society treats people most certainly is different. While it's clear that my …
/r/MensRights30/01/14 11:08 PM
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Just a warning this is rather long and I am neither a lawyer nor someone whom has experienced this in any way myself, just sharing my thoughts if they're useful. When it comes to the legal side of things, do as basically everyone is saying in here and get a lawyer ASAP. Having something that you carry around that's constantly recording and all what you're doing would also be nice, that way even if you're alone at home you do have an alibi. Things would still be tricky. I would ALSO suggest takin…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 06:02 PM
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Probably not, otherwise men would be able to use false rape accusations to protect themselves. Society generally laughs at the idea that men can be raped because it believes all men always want sex 100% of the time (at least with women), so people will be rather resistant to follow through with your accusation at least compared to following through with hers, and if she started it and files a report and all then she may have some 'witnesses' to back her up, and even if it simply came down to he …
/r/MensRights30/01/14 05:51 PM
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I understood what you said to be that men and women are treated equal, and as a result rest of my post will be about that (in the event I misunderstood trying to make it easy to clear up). To start off with I'd like to pose to you the idea that if one gender was systematically hunted down and killed aside from a few members whom where enslaved and sold as commodities there most certainly would be one gender being victimized. Obviously this isn't around today, I was exaggerating to establish grou…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 04:38 AM
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Ah, yeah, then would be accurate here, since I would definitely say that it was revealed a dissent about their attitude in regards to the attitude they thought you had. Thanks for clearing that up for me, always thought projection was projecting yourself instead of projecting things which you have strong feelings for (whether apart of yourself or not). Clears up that murky feeling for the ad-hominem attacks I THOUGHT went on in situations similar to this one. Again thanks!
/r/MensRights30/01/14 03:10 AM
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I still don't think that it's projection.... Well maybe it is, I'd like to ask you because perhaps I don't properly understand what projection is, so if possible I would ask that you reply to this and all. Next paragraph will be what I understand it to be, paragraph afterwords will be more of a question as to if it's what you mean by projection. Due to my talkative nature I most certainly won't hold it against you if you have better things to do with your time. To me projection means that you ar…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 01:45 AM
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Whole lot of projection there. Only commenting on this part, but I personally wouldn't call it projection, when I read your first post here myself I also had a similar conclusion as them, and I imagine others would as well, not because of projection but more of.... 'tone of voice'. While you did say 'good luck', it was followed by you if you would implying that the idea was a bad idea and waste of time, though clear to me now that you were merely speaking about how it came off to you personally …
/r/MensRights29/01/14 09:04 AM
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Thinking about it even, more back long ago during cave-people days, if the gender roles weren't 'fair', like men got all the power or women got all the power the society would sorta collapse, both genders provide a much needed resource for the society, not only is every 'body' doing work to the benefit of the society, but even just as 'men' and 'women' their roles in conception (and then women's roles in being pregnant, giving birth, etc.) are needed for said society to still have genetics in to…
/r/MensRights25/01/14 08:45 AM
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Didn't see that, thanks. Definitely changes the gravity of the comparison but there's still a good amount there....
/r/MensRights19/01/14 09:14 PM
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Assuming it happened in the USA, so we've got sexual assault (that could leave the victim permanently sterile if he's unlucky I believe), public indecency, and statutory rape. Thank god the victim didn't get punished, but it really says something that all three of those crimes wrapped together in one package equate legally to a man yelling at a female employee. Justice! /s
/r/MensRights19/01/14 03:36 AM
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To be fair, the fact that they called the ambulance straight away could in turn be the survival instinct acting up, something that more or less all suicidal people have to deal with is work on getting past it, which usually means over time sorta 'chipping away' at it, dulling it, kinda putting it to sleep, which once a person 'acts' their suicide and all would probably make it go flaring off, overcoming any existing emotions or logic or whatever motivates them to kill themselves and put them int…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 11:29 PM
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I remember hearing about that, but also heard the argument that the statistic isn't completely trust-able because of both how men and women attempt suicide and also how they sorta cope with it. Men tend to jump off buildings or use a gun, once those are put into 'motion' then they cannot fail, and without monitoring everyone big brother style it would be difficult to be able to get ahold of how many times someone held a gun to their head and put it down. Meanwhile women tend to prefer going for …
/r/MensRights16/01/14 08:41 PM
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Oh no I do apologize for misrepresenting my ideas, I am 100% against modern day feminism, I am against women's advantages in court and lesser sentencing and all, I am not saying that feminism is 'worth it' I am noting in today's world that thanks to feminism X, that is bad, is gone. Yes, Y, that is also bad, is now here because of feminism, what I'm saying is if my options are either have X or don't have X (with Y being around a constant) I'd rather us be without X, so that there is less sufferi…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 08:05 AM
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The stereotypical male/female advantages seem to come down to me as 'doing' and 'receiving' in a way, looking at the examples you give, for example male advantages are EARNING a promotion, EARNING a degree, while the female advantages are RECEIVING alimony, RECEIVING child support, these coincide exactly with what I at least have come to expect of the standard gender roles that were more of formed through natural selection (back when hunting was needed for survival and also dangerous and women w…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 06:56 AM
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To be fair, 5 and 6 are the case because of feminism, a more 'stereotypical female disadvantage' could be seen in more of the middle east and such countries were women aren't given equality and are sorta treated as objects, since that's sorta how gender roles evolved, women sorta being acted upon and men sorta being the actors, if we ignore the fact that in most (if not all, I don't have a list of all of them so don't want to make assumptions) if not all first world countries have eliminated suc…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 05:40 AM
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Edit: I do apologize I just noticed that you said elsewhere that you were being sarcastic, didn't get that idea, feel free to disregard this post and the previous one, I thought you were being serious when you said gender is a social construct. The original post begins after this paragraph, sorry for taking up your time. I'll do my best, my mind doesn't really work well with that but I will do my best. Men and women have biological psychological differences. While society definitely works to rei…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 05:30 AM
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Assuming conversation is purely about the standard two genders (male and female, anything varying from these weather biological or not is a bit more complex then I am about to respond to but what I am saying does still get a point across) the notion that gender roles are a social concept and don't actually exist is incorrect. Society DOES influence our perceptions of gender and gender roles/identity a lot, and I would agree that women are a class, as are men, at least in today's world, that said…
/r/MensRights16/01/14 02:44 AM
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Most have LESS then 10 comments? Wow I rarely open a thread on this sub that has less then 20 comments, I don't find a lot of threads daily but I tend to enjoy a sort of variety of discussion. That said I would like to point out, this sub often doesn't do a lot of stuff either, I'm talking on a more 'bigger picture' scale. I often see this sub mainly as a sort of anecdotal place, for people to vent problems, frustrations, etc. and get support, or look for suggestions as to what to do and sorta k…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 07:51 AM
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Last I checked the world had 53% of humans were female, if 33% of all women were killed by gender based violence (with the presumption that no men are) then I'm pretty sure that for every 1 male baby there would have to be about 2 female babies to sorta compensate (I know not the best statistics but just roughly estimating that with this 66% female babies thing that by knocking off 1/3 of them we'd get 44% females which is less than 10% off from how things really are so not horrible for 100% gue…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 07:33 AM
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There's a reason /u/everything_is_rape is (or at least was, doesn't seem as active now) pretty popular around here (from what I've seen, and also believe).
/r/MensRights13/01/14 02:51 AM
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True but not really how my head all works, since as well there are a few other factors into play in that the girlfriend is not valued as being 'bedded' in this case (could be but not necessarily) but rather by romantically aligning her. The difference is that someone can find say a guy who has constant one-night stands (though no deceitful or criminal ways) disgusting then turn around and call a guy without a girlfriend a loser (on said basis of course) without being a hypocrite. Fucking stupid,…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:26 AM
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They're trying to use sorta societal beliefs, our sorta 'obsession' with a 'romance culture' in a way ('hook-up' culture, and sex/marriage obsessions are all apart of this) and how it's sorta heralded not only as proof of happiness but also proof of success in order to shame people who don't have it. We're sorta trained to in a sense believe that if you do not have a 'mate' so to say (how often this happens with females varies a lot more and is probably less on average then men due to men having…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 03:52 AM
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Counter-point (tackling the idea of being a tattle-tale being a bad idea only) if a company that made food that went out to say public schools across the countries was violating FDA regulations basically selling poisoned food would it still be wrong to be a 'tattle-tale'? Informing a higher up of a rules violation is not simply 'bad' just because all the kids in the school yard will call you names, it varies from situation to situation, for example if the coworker had squeaky shoes that make it …
/r/MensRights11/01/14 03:13 AM
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True, I wasn't quite on point, what I gathered from your post though was missing out on the evicting people from their seats, I.E. the idea that say blacks would perhaps be in that fifth row because they got onto the bus when it had like 70% blacks on it, then later on after most of the blacks got off and there were now 70% whites there would still be those black people in row 5 with some white people all the way in the back which, at least in the US, would be historically inaccurate. Your post …
/r/MensRights10/01/14 01:36 AM
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That's not what happened at all, at least in the US, blacks could sit anywhere, until a white person got on, the white person could evict them out of the seats and the bus driver would get involved and help said eviction if need be, I do believe Rosa Parks went to jail for refusing to give up her seat, might be mistaken on that. There wasn't any problem that she sat in the front back when there were no whites on the bus or such, but as soon as one asked her to give up her seat people basically w…
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:01 PM
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You bring up a good point. Why do we even let white people back there, I mean with the disparity between minorities and whites in terms of crime, not having reserved seats for whites up in the front is just condoning mugging, murder, and all other sorts of crimes. Indeed truly the only way for us to have a civilized society protecting victims is to make it illegal for blacks or minority to sit in the front, promotes crime.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 05:23 AM
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True but when combined with articles about how men are afraid to help a child who's going to get run over by a car due to possible pedophilia accusations, something does tell me that the more of point that I was trying to get across with what the stories taught me in regards to warning seems more credible. And even if made up, still has a 'men aren't 120% privileged' message the person is trying to get across which is also relevant to what I was going for.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:48 AM
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Thanks, didn't know that before.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:45 AM
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She actually wrote a book and had an interview, that's in three parts, up on youtube. I found it all very interesting. Sorry but I can't remember the name of it. For the most part I found myself agreeing with various conclusions she was making except for one, when she tried going to a strip club and sorta 'learned' some about male sexuality I think that she made a bit of a bad logical conclusion. Dealt with her talking about her experiences in a strip club, she didn't really find it appealing at…
/r/MensRights09/01/14 01:33 AM
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"You sound as if you're talking from experience. Tell me who did your surgery or are you just talking out your ass?"
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:57 PM
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I agree 100%. There was actually a lesbian who went 'undercover' as a guy, like she didn't get any surgery she just like dressed up as one and all, for an 18 month sorta sociological study, she tried to sorta 'learn' about many aspects of more of 'male' society, and for one thing she found out just what you said. Based on how society makes it, many people would expect the ideal man to be more of a woman in a man's body, but she found the exact opposite, she got a SHIT ton more rejection when she…
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:53 PM
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To the OP, I've seen 4chan get it.... 'right' per se several times. In the sense of understanding that men don't have 120% of the rights they deserve by having a penis. I don't see it all the time, but I more often see threads that are anti-feminism more or less than I see pro-feminism ones. I've even seen threads that were about stories that just downright terrified me, like a guy was walking down the hallways, yawning, accidentally touching a girl near the eye or so (he started yawning before …
/r/MensRights08/01/14 10:30 PM
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Sorry for the delay. I've actually thought about it myself, not being a big believer in having some sorta magical bond with random people whom happen to have similar genetics to you (family) and I've actually come to the conclusion that in truth all people whom are not assholes basically are able to form bonds that are stronger than the 'average' friendship (at least by more younger definitions I mean, where children/teenagers will have more 'friends' than they will have 'good' friends), these b…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 05:38 AM
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While you're right, the idea is that at least with neutral parents, a child would have love for them, the familiar bond, even if you hate 'humans' and thus don't treat strangers the best these are your own flesh and blood, people whom one would expect you'd cry over their passing even if they weren't the best of parents. That said it was definitely over-simplified, but as well it's a lot easier to noticed, someone whom is abused will often disregard their own treatment, but it is much easier to …
/r/MensRights03/01/14 07:38 PM
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Shame on you OP! We all know that the secret to getting a child out of their clothes is to quietly appreciate their books without engaging a child in conversation! Afterall I'm sure that any man who reads 50 shades of grey on a train to themselves will have women all over find themselves uncontrollably stripping and attracted to said man! /s
/r/MensRights29/12/13 09:50 PM
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(After typing out this post I notice that I refer to OP's friend as a girl a few times, to avoid redoing basically entire post going to not change it, I recognize there's no proof that said friend is female however reading what is written it seems to me very much like the friend is female how they seem to be putting themselves in the female position and all) To be fair, while these ideals are outdated and I'm sure most of us will probably agree are stupid, in regards to her own dating life, if s…
/r/MensRights29/12/13 09:47 PM
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This is also made worse because when these children get so delusional and caught up in the idea that men are handed everything on a silver platter and they're fighting against an evil dictator in a way, that when they encounter someone who's reasonable and all who doesn't want to be with them they're told a hundred different ways how those people are apart of the oppression (like the concept of internalized misogyny being a huge issue) and given a hundred tactics to shame those people they are e…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:46 PM
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Okay, I'll admit, I SERIOUSLY went on a tangent. I haven't read everything you said (throughout the entire thread I mean) and if you specifically said that someone's not a true feminist or whatever I didn't see it, and conversely if you had shown very well to admit that certain radical people are feminists and rather reject the ideas they have/idea of giving them power, again I missed that, I was going by your general tone, you seem to be speaking as if you view yourself with higher moral author…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:32 AM
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You're thinking of all feminists as radicals This actually happens for logical reasons, it's not equating all feminists as radicals, and while I cannot speak for the beliefs of /u/EvilPundit personally, I see often times in regards to MR stuff that talk of feminism focuses on the radicals, there are two reasons for this, the less common but easier to understand believe that you likely have probably assumed they have (again I cannot personally refute it since I don't know them well and I do know …
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:04 AM
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This might not actually be as bad in the long run, if you would I think that banning speech may have an effect akin to in the US what happened with prohibition and whenever a book is banned, more or less. Possibly even help spread advocacy in order to get more radical (used in this context as influential) men's right movements... ... That will all be great for our great great grandchildren, but for us and our children I don't really see anything good happening, either a prolonged heart-attack as…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 01:01 AM
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I'm going to actually talk about this point for seriously, like talk about why people would for logical (but incorrect) reasons attribute this sort of treatment onto men and a logical (and I believe correct, can't say for certain being an imperfect human and all) reason why women are the ones who actually do it. Gender roles. They developed naturally in order to help us survive, men went on hunt, get meat. Women stay home, don't die while pregnant (and neither does the society die if 20 women ar…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 12:38 AM
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No problem, wish I had made my comment before yours had gotten down-voted so much, I understand WHY people misunderstood what you were saying and don't think it's a crime as to what they've done but wish that, after seeing how reasonable you were in general (thankfully I don't think any of the other replies you got were TOO aggressive, while more aggressive than merited I think still had actual content rather than just rabid name calling) with your other replies it hadn't gone this way. I felt t…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 11:36 PM
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I definitely see what you're saying, and reading some of your other comments here I see that your opinions are very reasonable, you are not 'defending' the practice in regards to circumcising babies at all, as well I don't think I've seen you comment at all about say calling female circumcision FGM but not calling male circumcision MGM because it's different, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS COMMENT IS IN NO WAY DEALING WITH 'DEFENDING' CIRCUMCISION BUT IS MORE ABOUT TALKING TO THE VICTIMS OF…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:08 PM
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I definitely agree with you, I find it immensely stupid that this is some sort of story club and they feel a need to more or less ensure a good hookup ratio. I mean I GET that there needs to be some place for hooking up to take place, because we all have sexual needs and probably a desire for a romantic partner, so I get that when you combine that with how hookup culture currently is it makes sense for clubs (that generally don't offer a huge experience in of themselves unless you like dancing, …
/r/MensRights17/12/13 05:27 AM
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Okay, I am sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I UNDERSTAND why you were so angry, I figured that since you replied to what I said you were more of replying to what I said more so than venting your frustration and all (in addition to replying to what I was saying). I agree with you 100%. That said I recognize that there is money to be made in these sexist practices, giving women free drinks at a bar during a certain time frame, clubs letting women in for free or at reduced prices, all of that …
/r/MensRights16/12/13 09:21 PM
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What I was saying is that you were getting upset about how supply and demand works rather than the discrimination which may or may not be going on. And if the concert in any way was say an 'equality' concert, wherein black people payed money to have there be an equal number of white people as black people (as hookup culture that often takes place at clubs and bars has a harder time enticing women than it does men, so men are more willing to pay money if it means they get a guaranteed ration of 1…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 09:06 PM
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You know that's something that people in economics like to call "demand". There is a limited "supply", so in order to make say 500 people who'd be willing to pay more but don't get the tickets they 'increase' the price to lower the "demand", this allows them to 'maximize' profits. Perhaps there's discrimination going on, but what you described is economics 101, plain and simple.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:43 PM
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OH, that's a MUCH different thing than what I thought, that's not sexist. Thought that it might have been like a charge for employee service, if you would, charging people for cleaning up after them, obviously if the service charge is the result of the online service and all, then there's NO discrimination at all. Really weird they'd go about it based off of a percentage thing since a $200 transfer shouldn't take more resources than a $15 but hey, not my business thing.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:55 AM
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She agreed to it before she was living in the US, once she was maybe she found out that she couldn't afford an apartment and pay for food and all that on the measly salary she had. Attempts to renegotiate after understanding she wasn't being paid half as much as fast wood workers (of which some of said companies have suggested they take second jobs in order to be able to support themselves) would be futile because the lobbyist clearly had the upperhand of blackmail being able to send her back to…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:50 AM
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True but that doesn't mean that I can't apologize for not being able to respond in a.... shorter manner, after all I'm sure a rather well informed individual such as yourself has better uses of time reading something that perhaps could have been said in 2 sentences in that length I gave.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:31 AM
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To be fair, while the practice of charging women and men different amounts has nothing to do with feminism in clubs (rather for economic reasons) we're talking about ONE club here. An individual business MAY practice in discrimination (Not going to say this one is, merely stating a fact that an individual company is run by individuals, and may practice in discrimination to the point that it closes, but it is unreasonable to believe that all businesses even in a given area practice in discriminat…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:28 AM
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I understand fully that this could be say they didn't expect demand to be this high so they didn't raise the price enough for it to equal supply, totally get that, I was trying to get at just how bad it seemed to me to both be making a cap on tickets for men/women AND charge different prices for them, I believe I sorta explained the general ideas I was getting at in more detail, wasn't scrutinizing them for this 'one' show so much as my best guesstimate as to how they show pricing/limits perhaps…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:11 AM
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Which would then I believe also add lying to the government as a crime committed by the lobbyist, I also believe she could be charged for blackmail among many other things. Assuming a contract was made between the employee and employer it would be null and void if only because of the lack of legality (talked about the four elements of contract law right below your reply here). The contract might ALSO be void through the use of coercion, the sound mind and body part of contract law has stuff abou…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:03 AM
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she signed a contract stipulating that wage. That contract doesn't count. I'm talking legality, a contract is only legally upheld (and thus means jack shit) if it complies with 4 things (research contract law if you don't believe me): Both parties are of sound mind and body (we can assume that neither party was like super drunk or drugged out one night, agreed, and just said "OH WELL GUESS WE'RE DOING THIS FOREVER." especially with all that is involved with a visa) Consideration, both parties mu…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 07:42 AM
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Catches my eye that the male tickets are sold out...... While I'm normally one who's all for economic values I think this may cross my line and be more 'criminal' (by my beliefs) perhaps.... I mean, I understand they only have a certain capacity for people together, but if we assume that the capacity is split 50/50 for women/men (which no guarantee, might be say 10 tickets for men and 90 for women iunno, I'm guessing they'd probably be more looking at a 50/50 split, or maybe even 33/66 to try to…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:10 AM
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Dear god I haven't seen percentages that off since I was in high-school.... And even then the students who sorta implied that 2 businesses= 200%, as she thought, were either joking or had a brain fart that they almost immediately corrected..... And even when the business woman is trying to point out to her refusal to listen to ANYTHING being said, she STILL refused it. I sure as hell hopes no one invests in this woman, businesses need to ADAPT when push comes to shove shaking your head and sayin…
/r/MensRights15/12/13 12:57 PM
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What I'm about to say may not apply just something that crossed my mind and since no one else has said it. Might be a good idea to record ALL activities with the mother if you have not already, conversations, meetings, all of it. Never meet her in an abandoned parking lot or anything. She MAY try to sorta ruin your spotless record by say making some false accusations, getting some restraining orders, and flat out lying, as a result it could come really in handy to protect you from anything like …
/r/MensRights15/12/13 12:15 PM
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Probably on the basis that it's not THE best college and thus since those colleges have not produced 100% of people who've worked there with the same conclusion it must be wrong. Not trying to hate too much but I know the exact sorta 'logic' that's being used as I've used it more times than I care to admit. You see a conclusion that you disagree with and then you LOOK for ways to discredit it, in this case she's moving the goal post so that the professor is no more credible than a random patient…
/r/MensRights15/12/13 11:53 AM
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I'm happy he didn't go to jail for having been beaten and strangled!.... ..... My standards for men's rights based victories seem rather low to me right now......
/r/MensRights13/12/13 12:17 PM
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Due to a partially genetic mental disorder I was a bit dense growing up. I didn't pick up on all the sorta sexist beliefs that society holds, I did pick up on some (like the idea of real men), but for the most part I was generally rather myself (my parents not sticking entirely to traditional gender roles and each dabbling in both probably also helped me there). Not a whole lot of stuff happened, but I will share what I do remember and all (Might want to skip me I don't have any incredible stori…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 12:11 PM
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This is a rather fair point. She's setting herself up to be financially dependent on others with the attitude she's taking (assuming she believes that joke on some level and not JUST saying it for laughs), so even though there's a bit of a difference with choosing to be a housewife and making a shallow statement about how money her potential spouse makes is important to her, she's making her own bed, whether her plan 'works out' or she is forced to lay in said bed only time can tell but this isn…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 11:46 AM
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-230...... I guess all of you people are oppressing me or something.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 08:10 AM
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First, would like to say, I agree with you about the hyperbole, as one could even draw comparisons between feminism and Nazi germany (where only about 1/6 of the people actually were radicals and the who were far more moderate just went along with it), however doing these sorta comparisons in order to spark hate is highly.... counter-productive, all that you're doing is teaching people to NOT think, you take something people hate, call something that's different mark 2 and hope to insight a rebe…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:42 AM
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Ignoring the issues men face with being virgins, something crosses my mind.... Has this person never heard of hymen? Back before there were really adult toys and various gymnastic like activities more readily available to women, a woman's virginity was more than just a social construct, it was a physical status that became quite clear to a man when having sex with the woman. Once the idea of virginity is established in at least women due to this physical basis it only makes sense that people wou…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:48 AM
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True, underage drinking is a completely different matter and the fact that I brought it up made my example a pretty bad one. Was trying to get at the idea that people would have private parties where they may do that on their own, and forgot that people over the age of 21 do that too, and underage drinking deals a lot more about health, accountability, and 'responsibility' (using that to refer to intellect, maturity, etc. involved), and thus makes my example a very poor example of what I was get…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 12:40 AM
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The difference is what the people want. The people support dating culture just as they support 'rights' for individuals and workers, get the people to be against this dating culture and then the rest will basically take care of itself, lawsuits, lack of profits, whatever. I apologize for how aggressive I might have gotten throughout all this, we do agree businesses will do horrible things just to make money if the government doesn't intervene, and this as well is wrong. The biggest difference I …
/r/MensRights06/12/13 08:32 PM
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I'm sorry, but your argument, at least in the first paragraph, is bullshit. You think that money is an invalid excuse for how to compare products. Not everyone has the money to buy a brand new car just because it's better, PRICE IS A FACTOR. I'm sorry that you don't like it, I don't like it, but the fact that YOU don't like that THEY like the price isn't a reason they shouldn't buy it. If I was selling apples just as comparable as your apples, and I was selling them at half the price yours are, …
/r/MensRights06/12/13 08:20 AM
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I don't believe women or men are anymore pre-disposed to the desire to have sex as well, perhaps 'average' sexual desires in men and women manifest differently but still I also think that it's equal between them. That said, it's not about coddling women. It's about economics. Dating culture is sexist, men generally are expected to approach the women. This has been truth for a very long time, and it's still true today. This means that when it comes to dating or sex or such generally men will be e…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 08:13 AM
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My, what a non-argument. I merely assumed that I'd take SOME customers as long as your tavern wasn't full of gay men, heck so long as there was enough straight men that the fact that I have all the pretty women some of them would be enticed to move over. I am a man myself you know, and I in no way think that a male only tavern would fail on the basis of no women, I'm just not dense enough to think the only reason that there aren't any around anymore is because they were bombed by some feminist a…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 03:13 AM
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The fact that I didn't know that you were referring to 30 years ago instead of 200 years ago doesn't invalidate any of my other arguments (I apologize if you weren't trying to invalidate the rest of them, the shortness of your message makes it hard for me to tell your disagreement or what), last I checked it wasn't even 20 years ago when coffee shops were the venue of hookup culture. Can a male only bar exist and thrive in today's world? Sure. Is it a smart idea for 20 people to all open male on…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 03:05 AM
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Times changed and women started venturing out of the kitchen maybe? Bars are mostly the venue for hookup culture now, and if a bar wants to compete with the other bars in the area, they have a better chance if they gear towards hookup culture as well. Will a bar for sure go out of business if it doesn't have some single women there? No. Plenty of sports bars around I do believe which might not do that, however it is an economically sound argument to appeal to the plenty of single (or at least no…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 02:10 AM
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That's actually not a comparable experience. While most of the time comparing racism to sexism is, and while this IS sexism, the difference here is when it comes to clubs and bars the 'target audience' are basically trying to hook up if you would, likely people like /u/occmsrazr right there who likes there to be women in the bar. The reason why this is different is, if the target audience was say people holding a diversity rally who wanted there to be as many black people as white people, they w…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:31 PM
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I find it a bit funny because women's pay actually is entirely irrelevant to the argument. I understand the logic they're using but if 3 people made cookies that all got equal business from men and women compared to one another (so 80 men vs 20 women is 'equal' as long as all 3 get those amounts), with one charging those prices, another charging equal prices (80 cents to both), and one charging the reverse prices, the one charging women more would actually likely be the most profitable. While me…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:13 PM
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With bar owners I believe it's different, it's not FOR women to say supplement their drinks but it's for economical purposes, by making it cheaper for women to pay for drinks they entice more women to drink at their establishment which in turn brings in more male customers, where they make back the money, if they lowered the men's prices as well they'd go out of business, if they raise the women's prices they get fewer customers, it's economics. I'm not saying that it's 'right' but it's more of …
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:04 PM
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I have no real legal expertise, but just some thoughts your post got me thinking about.... As well in regards to education that is paid for like from a university kicking you out for an accusation I believe can be argued as ridiculous since you didn't agree to pay them money on the stipulation that if someone calls you a murderer that you have to be kicked out (proven to be a murderer is different), furthermore at least in the US you could pull out that their acting upon the accusation is uncons…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:36 PM
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You know who else was immature? THOSE SIX BOYS SHE RAPED. Maybe she doesn't belong in jail, I'll admit that because the fact that society treats this as if not a crime while it would if genders were reversed doesn't mean that she may not be a victim of her own mind in a sense and need psychiatric help BUT SHE IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO CHILDREN, she needs to be removed from society in one shape or form. The fact that she may not be 'responsible' for her actions due to her mental state does…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 06:23 PM
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I once wanted to look up all their depressing comic weeks because I'd only seen a few individual ones posted in various places, I googled like "cyanide and happiness depressing comic weeks" or something, found a place that listed the stuff, that was awhile ago so I can't link you, sorry.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 04:39 AM
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I'm sorry but I don't exactly see what the problem is here... Don't get me wrong I do NOT like the message, it unnerves me at least, but when I read this I see a few different things. First of all, it's obviously marketing, and marketing should be responded with as an economics, if you don't like it you buy from the competitors, to teach companies not to be assholes, you can whine and complain and tell them you'll sue, but if you keep buying their products they probably won't respond, buy from t…
/r/MensRights16/11/13 04:02 PM
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I hate this sort of joke, it's stupid. That said I don't think making a fuss about the clothes and whatnot as a good idea without being able to make a stark contrast (I.E. being able to juxtapose it to similar thing for women) of the response received. This is partially because the idea is so ingrained (at least when talking about 'fathers' in general and not a specific one) that you'd just come off whiny, and that even if I don't like it if some people want to joke around about men and such I d…
/r/MensRights16/11/13 03:44 PM
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What you're talking about is an apex fallacy, the idea that since most power is held by men (direct power at least, even if women control the minds of men, more politicians are men and thus they have the power) that all power must be held by men (silly little mental thing) and in turn all men have power. It's stupid, but as well it's probably a rather common belief. The issue in turn comes when some PEOPLE (women or men) who follow such logic to an extreme, that basically the idea that by having…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 07:45 PM
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On the chance that someone thinks this plan might be a good idea (I personally don't think it is but I can see how others would), I would like to further add to this: Make sure you have some stuff to back you up. Making a 'statement' about equality and all that just as described here will make you look like a jackass and thus most people won't learn anything, make sure that you're able to cite an example of when it was acceptable with the reverse happened (so with OP they'd cite the birthday par…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 10:58 PM
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Thanks for that information, that is very different than I thought was often the case for adoption, I knew that instances like that happened (heard stories of some of them) but didn't know they were far more common. I do think that there should be a means of helping people who have children in their lives help be able to put food on the table. Obviously my little metaphor is not accurate, (at least in those examples) but still as you said the ex shouldn't be the one paying her for this, if anyon…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 04:35 PM
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See I personally don't think that should necessarily be called adoption to me, I mean if you're marrying into the family then it seems to me more like you're becoming their mother and whatnot (and if the parent the kids were with is still in the picture their income should be added to yours possibly reducing the child pay if they make enough, or if that's too complicated for the law then their income just 'cancels' them out for it).... But I do see your point, if the Ex married someone with say …
/r/MensRights15/10/13 04:19 PM
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..... What really gets me is that the laws include ADOPTED children. I mean obviously it's bullshit if your ex gets pregnant with her new husband and you have to pay more money because you're already paying her money, but ADOPTED children? Last I checked 9 out of 10 times adoptions don't magically fall in your lap, they don't put people in situations where it at least feels like if they don't want to adopt them the child will have to be killed. So this law says that if she decides to walk to an …
/r/MensRights15/10/13 01:35 AM
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Might help if you add some quick links or something so that people can do the research, while obviously there are some that are more societal and anyone of common sense would be able to know them, people often make up statistics, and I usually find it a bit hard to research some of these things. Supporting at least some of the claims I think will work a lot better. There are three sorta good reasons I feel there would be to putting up posters of this (more petty 'revenge' sorta thing, questionin…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 01:24 AM
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Basically came here to say this in a million more words with no numbers to support it. Always hate it when people believe that by being born gender A or B they somehow are intellectually superior to their reversed gender counter-part.... (Not talking about in specified areas such as say math, since different brains would lead one's reversed gender counter-part would retain better skills in some areas and worse in others, but nothing so overarching as flat out intellect). Especially considering t…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 12:57 AM
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I personally would say that rather the insight you speak of allows people to give more examples, have more things to back it up. The first person you talked about doesn't seem like they're saying anything incorrect (aside from them understanding it), there are facts about what's going on there, however since she hasn't experienced it herself how does she know? Because she was informed, sure she can form opinions but in an open discussion if she thinks that one of the daily problems they face are…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:13 AM
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Almost as if we've been around for millions of years and learned to evolve together in a harsh environment fulfilling different roles because we are biologically different (estrogen and testosterone make us very different) while raising children, repeating the process until it eventually became outdated of which we were so accustomed to it by the time we realized it was outdated we didn't fucking know what to do! No, can't be it, too many words, one gender must have just been mind-controlling fo…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:54 AM
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I would like to further add to this (if anyone somehow looks this up) after discussing with a few friends of mine for other reasons that I have actually misunderstood the argument. The argument actually isn't (at least not the ones my friends were using, obviously not everyone who shares similar thoughts shares these exact ones) "You don't have a uterus you can't talk about it!" but rather "You don't have a uterus so don't tell me what to do with mine!" Which I think is important to note. I actu…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 06:51 AM
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While keeping in mind where an idea came from is important at times (namely before action is taken as ideas that sound good may just be basically bad ideas gift wrapped or something) I would disagree with you. You seem to have more of missed the point, note they said the merit of AN idea, not the merit of an argument. The student and the worker have different motivations however you cannot dismiss the IDEAS presented because of who spoke it, if you would they're both discussing out increasing go…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 06:13 AM
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I find your analysis at the bottom to be a bit..... interesting. Not just because I've often heard the reverse that it's misogynist because it puts women down and stuff but thinking about it I believe both arguments are sorta valid and you could even construct a sorta pseudo-psychological argument using it (highly inaccurate psychologically speaking but you don't necessarily have to share that and as long as you don't accuse someone you're just being intellectually shady, rather than flat out ly…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 03:35 AM
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I've always found the "If you don't have a vagina you can't understand!" stance silly. While yes I don't have to worry about being pregnant myself, pregnancy is something that is on my mind when I deal with sex, and honestly, I've mainly heard this from women who hadn't been pregnant yet, so they lack the ability to have knowledge about the burden of pregnancy that I cannot have. Did they ask their mothers? I can do that too. Did they read a book? I can do that too. Maybe I wasn't told the same …
/r/MensRights27/09/13 12:19 AM
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I am terribly sorry for all you have sacrificed (family and all), and whether you were out protecting me or not I do thank you for your dedication on behalf of my fellow human beings. I am also terribly sorry if I EVER insinuated that you were not fit for your job as I most certainly know that women, even if due to biology it's more difficult, are capable of fulfilling the proper requirements (while I sensed no hostility in your words towards me I felt that I should attempt to apologize for anyt…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 09:00 PM
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To be fair, the risk of female on male report being an issue is much less. Not because it's ANY less likely to happen but not only is it much less reported, it also has a chance to be basically dismissed entirely by police, judges, prosecutors, or whoever, whereas male on male would likely get investigated fully and same for male on female (not sure about female on female). Even if there is an equal chance of molestation we'll say (which likely there isn't as you and they probably know everyone …
/r/MensRights24/09/13 07:38 PM
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Perhaps it would make more sense if there was an even split but I still think that even with an even split of the criminals it would benefit to have the higher standard all around for cops because the fact that you may be facing a criminal that only NEEDS the lower requirements to be stopped, having someone with the higher requirements gives a much better chance of catching your thief/mugger/murderer, thus meaning they wouldn't hurt more people. And I completely agree, either the women's standar…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:43 PM
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I more of like to see the argument as "My great grandmother couldn't vote which means that I have personally faced discrimination!" as they walk around with an 'I voted' sticker on their shirt. Don't get me wrong if their great grandmother couldn't vote due to bad laws and they still couldn't vote that'd be a problem, but that's not the case. Horrible that it happened but you never really faced it, you cannot claim the injustice as having happened to you just because it happened to someone else …
/r/MensRights16/09/13 05:48 AM
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And having looked at this debate for a while now, I've come to believe that they (feminists) are correct when they say there is an unconscious bias towards blaming women for being raped. I disagree with an implied part of that. I believe that in reasonable people there will be an unconscious belief that everyone is in part at fault for their own actions, as in if you walk down the street without looking both ways and are hit reasonable people will believe at some level that you are at fault, tha…
/r/MensRights15/09/13 10:04 PM
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Absolutely, this is a completely valid point. I don't get why people basically constantly buy into the idea that your clothes have a direct impact on your chances of being raped, there hasn't been shown to be any studies behind it and the idea that being slutty=more likely to rape isn't necessarily true, in the mind of a rapist a more conservative person may be a better target because they're less likely to talk about it, because if they're too sorta scared to show off their own body they won't …
/r/MensRights15/09/13 09:31 PM
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You don't seem to be listening, stop using bad examples to disprove a point. Yes if say I was standing at the grand canyon wearing a green shirt and someone kicked me off the edge, if people told me "Well if you weren't wearing a greens shirt it wouldn't have happened." Is stupid and nonsensical, unless I had encountered the guy during the trip and he said, "If I see you wearing that shirt and standing next to the edge I will kick you down it!" Assuming I have reason to believe he's serious I'd …
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:27 PM
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Ah, my bad, I mistook what you were saying, I thought you were saying something along the lines of "I never share my feelings because... And 3. I've never been able to feel like there's a point to it." more or less. I DEFINITELY agree with what you said, I've found that once or twice tends to really be the extend of it, diminishing returns basically from then on, even if say the third time has validation it takes a LOT more energy than the first time did, and you end up having a bit of doubt in …
/r/MensRights12/09/13 10:54 PM
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This is a bit of my personal opinion on that third point that comes a bit from experiences with talking to people about their problems and talking about my own problems, however I think that the issue that you're talking about with the third one actually isn't the fault of sharing your emotions, but rather the "fault" of the people who you're sharing it with. Generally if emotions are recognized, responded to with empathy and understanding, and someone shows like a vested interest in helping you…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 05:10 PM
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Assuming you live somewhere where you're legally allowed to record conversations and/or interactions with people with only your consent, keep something able to record with you at all times. Use it as necessary. Might not really be moral but it may be the difference between being sentenced and not, besides you don't exactly need video audio should suffice and just make sure that it is clearly established that it is consensual and that she's not drunk to the best of your ability, and maybe make a …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:22 AM
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I suggest bringing some statistics like maybe a printed out version of the CDC table. Not enough papers to like bury yourself but enough proof that sexual assault happens to men in equal proportions even to women that should you get a chance to speak anyone who 'dismisses' your accusations as false can eat facts. Though I imagine that almost all if not all of their 'effective' tactics will work regardless of the gender of the victim, so pointing out that men suffer from sexual assault would help…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 02:24 PM
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Recently saw this, hope it helps: http://just-smith.tumblr.com/post/59969327107/why-is-circumcision-mgm-okay
/r/MensRights03/09/13 05:35 AM
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Ah then you probably should go more along the lines of what another user said with going with the abuse test thing, possibly vary it from verbal abuse, physical abuse, all sorts of things of people who look relatively similar and have them all do the exact same actions and reactions. What I suggested would only show sort of their comparable perceptions, either how they view men vs women, or how they either 'absolve' or 'blame' men vs women, it wouldn't show what they ACTUALLY stand for but it wo…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:08 PM
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Well I'm not sure if you'd want to do this but it just occurred to me that you could, you could get some stories of some actions some criminals have committed and describe them to people or hand them out on a paper and ask them to say if they think a man or a woman did it, maybe even include some results. Could even add in some victim things like saying that a person was sent to jail for a false accusation for 10 years and when the accuser recanted they didn't receive any compensation. Or you co…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:13 PM
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Ah, so to confirm you're saying that if we added in 'female-based' symptoms the numbers would again skew towards showing higher female rates of depression NOT because women are more susceptible per say but rather because women have a MUCH higher tendency to sorta make it known when they have a problem? That's what I think you're saying and just want to confirm.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 04:55 PM
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I sorta disagree, I didn't delve into my thoughts on this too much but ASSUMING there aren't any other symptoms of depression that we just haven't noticed I actually think there ARE some gender-neutral symptoms and some female-based (possibly) in the gender-neutral column. I'm going to list what this article says are "gender-neutral" and sorta give an analysis from my point of view (feel free to skip if you aren't interested in reading my thoughts that are not backed up by any college degree) Sa…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 04:47 PM
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Sorry but what's not completely unbelievable? I spoke of several different 'possible' outcomes if ran tests that would satisfy my curiosity, so just trying to understand how your claim of women being bigger hypochondriacs (I do believe what you're saying, just haven't seen tests or studies to PROVE it, as from an explanation perspective not sure if it's because women have biology making them more emotional or men are 'trained' to be unemotional or whatever, still I am inclined to believe that wo…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 06:50 AM
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Something that strikes me a bit.... curious, have they also checked to see if adding in some more women based symptoms throws it back out of sync, or keeps it the same? I'm not trying to say this isn't interesting and should be noted, however just reading the article I seem to have read that they only tested subjects for having "gender-neutral" symptoms and "male-based" symptoms of depression, perhaps there are no "female-based" symptoms, but then that would suggest to me the gender-neutral are …
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:36 AM
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First, while I agree that MOST will probably behave as you dictate, not all will. I actually have seem a tumblr blog that is basically just an MRA but identifies as a feminist as well and he basically uses the feminist tag to say, "You can't hate on me or say I'm against women's rights, I'm a feminist! Now about all that hating on men you're doing..." While I do think this is uncommon of some who identifies as a feminist at all (as I'm pretty sure most who believe in men's rights truly prefer to…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:11 AM
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It's actually more complicated than you're making it. In today's world? No that doesn't apply. If you go and shoot a woman and a man, there are 3.5 billion people who could replace each of them (if you only go by gender) it is ultimately meaningless, your crime is merely killing 'humans' from a more objective standpoint. However, let's backtrack in history, back to when humans lived in caves, when the wheel and fire were huge scientific breakthroughs. To survive you must hunt. People die ALL the…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:13 PM
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Okay, I replied to this before, but I COMPLETELY forgot what the subject was (I posted what you replied to last night before I went to bed and forgot about it) I AM SO SORRY ABOUT THAT PLEASE LET ME TRY AGAIN (first response has been deleted due to how BAD of a reply it was) Before I talked about basically society and accuracy of viewing women having extra worth blah blah, not relevant to THIS conversation. I do agree it's not exactly dehumanizing but it's..... It's very difficult to sorta expla…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:52 PM
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You're wrong. Sure today there is no 'general' acceptance of the facts that show the harsh factors that affect men, however SLOWLY we've been seeing progress. And SLOWLY we've also been gaining power, refer to the declining marriage rate, as time goes on if things remain exactly as they are that rate marriage will likely decrease and decrease, never going away but the more it's talked about without ever really being addressed (I have never seen any solutions being talked about from the sides tha…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:36 PM
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Woah woah woah, what the fuck. (Also feel free to skip this comment, pretty sure you've all felt exactly what I'm going to say, maybe some differences here and there but whatevs) If a woman is drunk and raped, she is responsible for what happened. Well if they were using more classic rape definitions, she's not responsible even if she was sober. I mean who in their right mind would say that it's your fault for being pushed down, tied up, beaten, and raped?.... Don't answer that, I know what you'…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:25 PM
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I'd like to point out since some people are mentioning some things, that one could also technically view sexism to mean treating someone badly for their gender only, even when you're talking about doing something good for them. For example, if I gave chocolate chip cookies to females only, that means women get the privilege of having a free cookie. However, assuming there is not 'motive' on my end and I'm essentially doing it because I feel like it, you can say that I am giving cookies to the pe…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:37 AM
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I am fully aware of that however I believe that pointing out that in-group bias is rather normal (though men prefer women, however gender wise it COULD get a bit tricky because of sexuality and all as to where the 'normal' lies, don't know since all we know is men prefer women and women prefer women, one is likely abnormal) could be made for this to suggest that perhaps such a bias alone would not cause the response that OP is upset about, as try to play it from a different angle like with race,…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 11:02 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood your point with my other post about how there are more than just gender based groups, however studies have actually shown men have an out-group bias towards women. Men prefer women. Women prefer women. Perhaps even there's a psychological thing going on where if we assume normal biology will lead men attracted to women and women attracted to men (and then cause a normal sexually driven out-group bias), the fear caused by painting men as monsters may leave women preferring t…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:51 PM
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I think you're also misreading what /u/palagoon said. They said in-group, not self-gender bias. Yes studies have found both men and women prefer women generally. However in-group bias is not SOLELY gender. For me in-group bias would mean that I'd probably prefer to sit next to a 20 some white (in appearance) American male that generally looks of a similar economical standpoint as me who is also a bit more reserved in public opposed to someone who shares NONE of those traits with me. Whether I pr…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:38 PM
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Ah, I am terribly sorry I do fully agree with that, however I took some of your little comments alluding to this belief and thought that you meant they were accurate TODAY rather than just in the past. These comments being: and inherently valuable because of her ability to produce new life, she is deserving of special treatment And: Also, the word “privilege” implies an advantage which is undeserved and unearned. (In this case, just unearned) I am terribly sorry for the confustion, this is purel…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:45 PM
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I don't find fault in most of what you said but I believe that you are putting undeserved value on women for being able to give birth. Let us ignore when a woman is pregnant as then she SHOULD get.... 'privilege' I'll say (not sure if it fits the undeserved and/or unearned criteria thus the apostrophes) because weaker (added weight, same muscles), lots more hormones going through them, and baby is highly responsive to things that impact her, so pregnant women deserve special treatment even if on…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:22 PM
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Yes, I am fully aware, I immediately go on to address how I do believe that if they said "Couldn't be you, you're a girl" is a MUCH different story than just, "It wasn't you." They have different effects on a person's psyche (unless you're LOOKING for something, in which case someone may discount LEGITIMATE reasons you were ruled out in order to assume a state of persecution but that's irregular I believe). As well I do agree with... a sorta implied idea that this benefit does not discount actua…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:02 PM
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Thanks for this OP, I also have a bit of a request for people here that's a.... BIT unrelated. Could someone possibly give me some links or evidence to men making up 80% (or majority, whatever it is) of completed suicides? Below is why I'm asking, feel free to skip. I plan on bookmarking this topic and if I ever see the argument that women attempt suicide more than men (used in an attempt to silence conversation about a legitimate men's issue rather than being used for ACTUAL conversation) I wou…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:48 PM
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I am not well rehearsed in what does and does not count as "benevolent sexism", but I want to talk about a few things based on what you said. Firstly in the situation you describe with the idea that 'women can't steal' basically (simplifying to get to the point) that from a TECHNICAL standpoint, yes, they're right, it's a form of sexism, however it's not oppression in this context. I mean who in their right mind would think that if you had a bunch of people in a room and knew one of them was a m…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:37 PM
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I actually think that both of you are correct. Basically OP is saying that what they're supporting is actually equality and they're ignoring that feminism is for improving females (which is not necessarily for the betterment of equality as helping women but hurting men would, by the standards I have lain out, fall under that) OP is more of saying that they're 'really' for equality and they should identify as a humanist (or egalitarian or equalist or whatever else people call themselves for equal…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:15 AM
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OP, while I fully believe you're allowed to define humanism as you want at least to yourself and identify as a humanist if you want, I would just like to point out a couple Wikipedia articles about three terms I see people use for more gender-neutral equality movements. Point out the links to show how they are defined on more 'broad' levels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalism Yes that last one is supposed to …
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:11 AM
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Fuck no, because women raping men IS legal, at least in the context of rape. Rape should be illegal, don't see why there should be a special exception for those with vaginas.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 12:58 AM
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You're presented actual legal stuff that favors women and rebut it by saying I have the victim complex so that you can maintain your self-proclaimed state of victimhood. RIIIIIGHT, I'M the one with the victim complex.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 12:20 AM
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OP asked for countries that don't have misandric laws among a group of people well aware of such laws which at times define rape as including "forced penetration" without mention of "forced to penetrate", clearly misandric as it makes male rapists rapists but female rapists nearly incapable of rape. Just one example. Anyways, you walk in here, to a group of people who believe in these sorts of things, claim "Yeah that doesn't exist, misogynist laws however do exist!" and you expect to have YOUR …
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:34 PM
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First I think that perhaps you may be missing a bit of something, when I read OP's post I think about how in the US at least legal definition of rape can include "forced penetration" without mention of forced to penetrate included, which counts out almost all male rape victims (and exempts female rapists from legal responsibility) basically. There are other laws that are pretty wrong, like domestic violence laws that can have a man walk into a police station covered in blood and bruises, talks t…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:37 AM
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I heard over in another thread someone saying that like Saudi Arabia and I think they also said Afghanistan (I can't remember for sure about that second one) are good based on the criteria you mentioned, I haven't done any research myself so if anyone can refute this please do since I'm also interested in having a list of said countries. Right now I'm mainly keeping track of a list of countries to for sure avoid. They include: Canada (seriously they've got some really messed up laws up there), U…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 04:13 AM
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Huh, interesting. Definitely going to save this, even if I can't work it into my little argument without getting a bit unfounded, it will DEFINITELY be something I want to have if an argument breaks out. Thanks!
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:32 AM
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Wow thanks, those were the major things that I was actually looking for, since some of the things that I found about dominance are sometimes talked about basically saying that men are animals and here's the real reason why they rape, however most rape being acquaintance rape (one of the three beliefs that I had trouble getting getting stats on) would innately disprove the notion that basically you're likely to get raped because someone wanted to have sex with you that night, since if you knew th…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:28 AM
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Ah thanks! I could only find the CDC one which didn't seem to talk about the nature of rape and purely just gave numbers (might be wrong there but I couldn't find anything about nature of rape). Even if there isn't anything like that in here it's still information that I didn't know about before from the government (one of the only internet sources I trust to have accurate numbers even if their definitions are wonky). So thanks a ton!
/r/MensRights25/08/13 09:13 PM
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Well thanks for all that, I think I'll beef up the paragraph that talks about how the mentioned posters paint a picture of all rape being men on women with some of this stuff, and before I was just going to leave it as 40% of rapists are women, thanks a ton.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 09:11 PM
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I'll bookmark the article and I'll check it periodically, thanks for letting me know, didn't realize this article would be getting updated!
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:48 PM
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Personally I am inclined to believe that what they said is true, even if you ignore social and biological 'teachings' that better equip men to think like A and women to think like B that /u/fishing-for-downvote pointed out, because the idea to me that a group would be entirely devoid of females sounds to me like they're intentionally being kept out (not saying that like engineering wouldn't be male dominated, but I'd think that maybe one or two women might be apart of it), which would mean that …
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:45 PM
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Already had that one bookmarked but still thanks! Would definitely want it if I didn't already have it!
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:13 PM
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Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to include it but it doesn't seem to say a lot more than http://i.imgur.com/wd4XiOd.jpg directly. Still I will find a good spot for it in my response.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:10 PM
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No, I just have a hard time shutting up, I'm always like this, have been since I was bored, unless there's a psychological reason for me going on for hours about how the Tales of series Martial artists almost always suck when on a team, pretty sure it's just me dude. If you don't like it, no one's forcing you to read it dude, you can always just say, "You're stupid, I'm done." Doesn't prove that I'm stupid but hey, always an option. My god you're spewing an awful lot of feminist hate. Are you sa…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 07:45 PM
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First of all, my apologizing stems from the fact that you are a human being and that I respect that you are one, and whether or not you can take it I personally would rather put in effort to maintain a polite conversation than risk things getting so heated that it becomes nameless insults, as well I don't really care to throw out anger in every direction. Your argument seems very.... Trying to me. Let us remove for a second how the word masculinity may in itself be thrown around, to me masculini…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:09 AM
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In all truth, perhaps they don't exist however I lack the perfect knowledge to say they don't, we live in a capitalistic society so it would only stand to reason that an idea which could result in profit would exist, thus by extension unless you claim to speak for every single adult on the planet and what they do and do not enjoy doing and say they don't like swinging I find it wholly arrogant unless you are some sort of all knowing market wizard to believe that such a product could not exist, a…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:21 AM
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Perhaps my social skills are sort of failing me here but reading his comments, he went to a PUBLIC park, to an area WITHOUT people, to be on ADULT swings (that were bigger and higher up than kids would use) which unless I'm mistaken was away from the children swings, and then smoked even though the PUBLIC park could have been designated as a NON-smoking area which it wasn't. So he went to a place that legally belongs to everyone, not children, to some equipment designed not for children but more…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 02:27 AM
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Can't be, I'm pretty sure when they wrote the constitution one of the fundamental human rights they made was that we all have the right to be presumed guilty until proven innocent! That's just common sense anyone could be a murderer so they all belong in jail, profiling just speeds up the process!
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:55 AM
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.... Which should have been obvious because marriage per divorces is higher than marriages which means that divorces is less than one.... Thanks, it was really bugging me how the line seemed to look like it was a bunch of made up numbers.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:54 AM
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Yes however Y is going down at the sudden jump, rather slightly but it is, so unless they just forgot that Y was supposed to be a higher number (thus explaining the giant fall) that year, it doesn't really seem to add up to me, and even if it was supposed to be a higher number the marriages per divorces stays down while divorces remains falling (for a bit). As well considering that marriages remains rather constant since 1867, and marriages per divorce almost exactly follows the marriage curve p…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:02 AM
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Seriously! So what if you get pulled over because of the color of your skin or stopped and frisked while being yelled at as if you committed a violent crime all because of your DNA, it's not as if you have to deal with any REAL issues!
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:25 PM
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Looking at that image.... I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how those numbers can really fit together. If you look from 1875 to 1885, divorce seems to decrease for the most part, marriage has some ups and downs stays relatively the same, but marriages per divorce drops drastically. Might be me misunderstanding but it just sorta looks to me like, X=10, Y=1 throughout this time period but Z=X/Y goes from 30 to 25 even though X and Y stayed the same.... Is there some information that I'm mi…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:54 PM
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The idea that suicidal men don't realise that they're suicidal because they don't understand their own feelings is grotesquely offensive. Yes, thanks for pointing that out, in a purely theoretical world it may be the case but in any real world situation the chances of it happening and they take action to die is not only negligible but as you said offensive as it assumes that human beings who fit certain criteria are rendered less capable of understanding themselves then children, and I do apolog…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:40 PM
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I was not aware of such a graph, however what comes to my mind based off of the statistic that you mentioned from it does not necessarily mean that gender roles aren't at play here. Since you only provided one statistic from the graph, didn't give a link to it, and I'm too tired RIGHT NOW I cannot speak as for the results of the graph however you only listed a relative statistic. It going from basically 60% of suicides are male to basically 80% could just be the result of fewer female suicides, …
/r/MensRights22/08/13 06:39 AM
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We're talking about an issue that faces men (the huge disproportion of completed suicides). Masculinity is likely going to be involved. If you have a problem with something I said please point it out and explain what you have a problem with it, I am an individual so I certainly am not right on everything I think (I'm including things not involved with this topic because maybe I am right on everything I said there, I can't really be the final judge on that).
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:17 AM
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Of course. Female suicide contributes to female suicide to. However we're not here to look at what model gun people tend to shoot themselves with or what drugs they usually take and blame the weapons, people have to choose to commit suicide, you don't accidentally walk into a suicide (well not often, maybe a few cases where it was called a suicide and it was just an accident), it is a deeply psychological thing, right here OP is trying to examine the role feminism may have on the male psyche whi…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 01:51 AM
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Now, not to sound like I disagree with your conclusion, I would like to point out some other issues that are more targeted at men rather than woman which could help skew the numbers. I personally do believe that this sort of feminist ideology does play a role in increased male suicide rate, however since it's so hard to psychoanalyze the dead and get good statistical numbers as to what CAUSED their suicides the issues feminism raises on this front are hard to scale (maybe they only result in 1% …
/r/MensRights22/08/13 01:43 AM
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I think there may be a bit of a miscommunication here. To confirm your stance is more of analyzing the individual, sorta that woman are programmed to essentially fear rape around every corner, that what they wear will make rapists jump out of bushes and attack them, and as a result no one can deny that they have this fear sorta always hanging around them, correct? If that's what you're saying I do sorta agree. When we're looking at an individual woman we can't just ignore the fact that she's afr…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:36 PM
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After this, I walked to another part of the train because I decided it'd be best to not be near these girls. He did.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:21 PM
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Reread the last full paragraph. He specifically says he's more upset by the double standard more so than what happened. If it was 3 drunken guys and a sober woman, if she pulled out mace on the guy even though he apologized society would basically say "You go girl!" while OP's actions in his situation (3 drunk girls 1 sober guy) would probably ring more out like "Oh my god you're gay." (unless he took advantage of them, then rapist) Perhaps I am incorrect and it wouldn't be to that extent but wh…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:17 PM
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That sounds like the exact OPPOSITE of his reasoning. Two claims were made, firstly that men and woman face different obstacles in court which you haven't addressed, secondly that the better attorney for whatever your position is, is best when they have experience representing your side. Since you only address the second one and are now trying to seemingly subvert the second point either due to misunderstanding or something I just want to rehash things a bit. You're saying that a lawyer can repr…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:16 AM
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I think I'm going to comment, and start off by saying, I apologize for how upset you're getting. While I don't know if you're an absolute saint, based on the two comments I've seen you make here you do sound like a good person who understands that everyone is a human and is frustrated by the situation. I would like to BRIEFLY point out, that while you're allowed to be upset that people are being turned off from marriage by stories like this, you must also recognize they have a RIGHT to not want …
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:23 PM
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Thanks for mentioning that. Most of the time gender swapping stuff I see on this sub leads to me realizing sexism and getting angry. This time at least after I got over my initial hesitance (brought about by thought of basically my needs being trivialized) I realized that I actually wouldn't have a problem with a gender-swapped version. At times people feel they are not being represented properly due to thoughts on lawyer bias (if only because such bias leads them to not properly understanding t…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:15 PM
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"men are more privileged than women" is not sexist Yes it's not sexist, however the accuracy of such a statement comes into question. When your word holds more weight in court simply because you flip heads instead of tails that's absurd, yet a woman's word is at times alone able to send a man to jail, thus one could conversely say that woman are more privileged, if it is defined as ability to send someone to jail because you feel like it. As well context is also needed. OP's accusation of claimi…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 12:14 AM
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Assuming that this accusation is true (considering it's coming from a 4-year old about a non-family child I personally think it's likely that she did whatever the boy said she did) it then begs the question of WHAT she did. Due to the curiosity and naivety that comes with youth I think that regardless of the act it is too early to register her as a sex-offender, she has not been exposed to a proper understanding of what she did, so I don't think something so permanent should happen. That said si…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 11:32 PM
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Ugh, sorry about removing the comment there, sorta thought after reading other comments that it was a bit redundant. For the sake of other people who didn't get a chance to see I'll give an alternate version for if you're interested. I just pointed out how as well a woman who actually earns the job won't be taken as seriously as a man would under this system none of her co-workers would know if she was hired to fill a spot or not, she must PROVE that she's actually good at her job. A man would n…
/r/MensRights08/08/13 12:03 AM
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I personally think the issue more of lies, on feminisms side, as /u/kronox pointed out that there are feminists who FIGHT against MRAs trying to fight these gender roles or even explore the severity of them. The gender roles cause problems on both sides. Feminism fights the woman's side of things, that sucks that we're not included but okay let's fight our side of things, and then they (NOT all of them, some of them, some of them with power, maybe most with power but by no means is every feminis…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 04:22 AM
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Not sure why this only clicked with me now, but thinking about it, if you go from a married home to a seperated home realistically you likely CAN'T afford to live off of one parent's paycheck. Before you had one home, one rent, one electric bill, cable bill, whatever. You didn't spend as much on gas because you could get the other parent to do all the shopping for all three individuals instead of just two of them and you do your own shopping. Furthermore the time of the parent who has to work is…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:47 PM
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Expecting men who have no intention of committing violence to prove that they have no violent intentions Reading your post this specific line actually made a little connection in my brain, this type of reasoning (that they must prove their lack of intention) is literally "you are guilty until proven innocent", contrary to any sort of RATIONAL law. We cannot throw people in jail for murders because they didn't have an alibi and thus failed to prove innocence, so why should society (assuming these…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:39 AM
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Unless I am mistaken, I am pretty sure that you just explained more or less what an apex fallacy is. The idea that because some men hold power all men hold power (or most power is held by men means that it is somehow shared equally among us). Since we don't see every rich male CEO going out handing out thousands of dollars to homeless men on the street, it'd be safe to assume that elected officials are not doing the same on the basis of gender alone. Just thought I'd mention to perhaps help stre…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:10 AM
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I think that both some of your logic is flawed and other parts of it are completely valid (I don't agree but cannot fault the parts I think are valid beyond the point of 'I don't like it.') Personally I think that a patriarchy was ultimately inevitable to have existed at some point that humans were alive. If you would men and woman actually weren't 'equal' per say at the start of civilization. This is not to say they weren't human beings, that they tried to kill each other (at least any that con…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 02:42 AM
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I've talked with some more reasonable people who are pro-women (they haven't called themselves feminists but have spoke of the ideas of helping women well), and they've never accused me of oppressing them. The issue with the sort of men vs women mentality is that it blames women's oppression on the opposite side. The idea that if sexist Joe across the country hires an unqualified man for a job instead of one of the tons of overqualified women for the job on the basis that he's a man, even if Joe…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 09:29 PM
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While I do agree that I have a right to my emotions, and I cannot really argue about their behavior, I still recognize that they are a human being. Even if I feel they are being dense or anything of the sort I try at least to hold myself to a certain standard. Since I cannot rightly expect to always be polite, I can still apologize for my hostility as getting angry and basically yelling at them will not help an actual discussion come about. Their efforts for such a discussion aside, the more I a…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 04:40 AM
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Source of income is irrelevant to your argument. The power to shape society comes from spending the money. Why? Because by spending money businesses will get money they can invest in stuff to create more products, research, better quality, reach more areas, get bigger, whatever. This allows them to do things like create more jobs. Having a single job does not shape society. Why? Because if you didn't there are perhaps hundreds of people who might line up the door right behind you to get it, the …
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:41 PM
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Problem with this logic, take for example how men earn a majority of the money, women are spending much more than that. Are you saying that we're going to simultaneously get together at our little man club and say, "Yeah, we shouldn't be giving them our money anymore." That's not going to happen, sure some men might say that, but generally it is expected men will hand the money over to their wives/girlfriends and all that, WOMEN hold the spending power, men hold the earning power, but the earnin…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:00 PM
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Given how many others have seemed to understand what I've been saying, I do believe that the issue is not a matter of language so if you would please make it clear as to if it is my vocabulary, my ideas (in how they are contradictory, wrong, or whatever) or what have you that seem to fail to make sense to you, unlike your one unsubstantiated claim as to your own opinion, that would be quite helpful to having a conversation. Sorry, I'm tired and a bit frustrated as to level of difficulty having a…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:13 AM
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Hormones affect how we think and behave, while men may have hormonal cycles akin to women, I do believe that the effects of pregnancy are vastly greater on a person's hormones due to the biological processes going on. Thus the feminine trait of being emotional may, at least back in the more prehistoric times that we're talking about, be outside their ability to control. Making them more a victim of their bodies (I apologize for how that likely comes off given the whole women and victimization is…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 11:58 PM
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I disagree. The feminine traits are likely the result of biology having a rather drastic influence on their behavior rather early on in the human developmental period, in which you cannot blame them if they were selfish, as being given consideration would sorta be akin to getting punched in the face and then if you're feeling sad as a result of it being given a candy bar to help cheer you up, it is more needed to healthy growth and since women were the caretakers of the house, it is rather impor…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 09:44 PM
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Onto your first point, yes, I do apologize that I forgot about the "Sigh, women" joke, that is an error solely on my part, and considering some of the ways it is used for women do counter-balance the point that I made wherein that portrayal of men shows a more demonizing of them since women also get it though in different areas it is incomparable to say that one is worse than the other per say (I am not saying that you did this, I am merely stating my thoughts in continuation of this point) with…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:20 PM
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While I cannot argue for or against the talk for sex-education and how it treats women as I often found myself unable to pay attention during my sex-ed class (due to getting faint when talking of organs and other internal mechanics of organisms and sex-ed was merely one subject within my 'health' class that often talked about some things), and I DEFINITELY agree with your point about religion tending to put more scrutiny on the women, media tends to put more scrutiny on men as being pigs from wh…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:28 PM
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While you pointing out that basically because I am the genetic offspring of my dad and because I got lucky and flipped a coin the same way he did that I should in no way be entitled to take credit for his actions, to be given privilege just because I am a man and all that is definitely worth pointing out and I do agree that the thinking is problematic (especially if you trace us back to the most ancient times men more of played the role as to making sure that the people who ARE alive stay alive,…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:57 PM
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Such reasoning is absolutely absurd. Ignoring that the study which shows that gender is 'purely' a social construct had the doctor LIE and go contrary to the ACTUAL results, one must recognize that both men and women, if nothing else, have different distribution of chemicals going through their body. If you compare someone who gets an injection of testosterone or adrenaline you will see a HUGELY different behaviors from their 'normal' selves. Not to mention our brains and everything are created …
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:37 PM
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While I definitely agree when compared to say black rights (while we're not 100% there either, since gay rights is basically 'active' and men's rights hasn't gotten 'active' yet, I believe it's the only comparable equal rights campaign) which hasn't been as vindictive and the radicals of it tend to have their own separate banner (Black Panthers I believe), even when there are racial divides you don't get the same sort of vindictive legislature, I say a bit to be polite, as I know that I lack the…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:30 PM
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To be fair, 'feminine' traits actually were needed to get to where we are. The masculine traits were needed to not say get eaten by a tiger, starve to death, or anything like that, the feminine traits were however needed to care for young so that they had a chance to grow into strong men and not starve to death (since back then a baby could ONLY get food from the mother, at least until a certain age), the women had to stay home, and a number of the 'feminine' traits (like being more in touch wit…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:10 PM
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While as you said, the majority of feminists are for equality (or at least so I believe), and they may be working on stuff in the background, they most likely AREN'T. Every feminist, or non-feminist, or anyone else is a PERSON, just like you. For the same reasons that YOU don't do anything to try to make equality a reality (and I mean stuff that requires you to go out of your way, not just shake someone's hand regardless of gender/race), and most of them will like you not go out of their way. Th…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:07 PM
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