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/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 12:04 AM
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Did you really find right examples then send me wrong on purpose and now tell me to look myself u wot m8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:32 PM
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Never ever does it call men children, immature or any synonym. And it doesn't say that women are overall better, either. Just better hunters. Your source doesn't support your claims buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:16 PM
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Oh well I'm sure you will sustain your claims with a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:55 PM
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So you're wrong about Spain: the general atmosphere in the country for most of the 50 years before Franco was very repressive and a mere decade before Franco took over, all political parties were illegal. You literally admitted that when Franco took the power there was no censorship, how the fuck am I wrong? Perón: didn't you know that Argentina had been ruled by an anti-democratic military dictatorship for 15 years before Perón took over? And Perón had actually been a major figure in that regim…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:54 PM
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"Yes, (there is something uncultured)." There really seems to be something great about freedom of speech that strangles dictatorships in the womb. When anyone can mock the Leader, he cannot form a cult of personality like Perón or Franco or Pinochet. There was freedom of speech when Franco and Perón took control of the state, but afterwards they did indeed stablish organisms to censor media. So either your comment is an example of uncultured naivety, or dishonest manipulative propaganda. Por cie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:54 PM
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The thread about censorship and totalitarism? Why, yes. That doesn't answer anything at all though, nor does it imply I'm on the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:29 PM
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There is nothing uncultured about believing that censorship makes totalitarian regimes more likely to form. Yes, because you put examples from the past, that are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:02 PM
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Yeah the use of the word dick is clearly shutting down any potential for debate. You know perfectly what that means ffs. I do not know of anywhere I can go where the people value diversity, differing opinions, and charitable and open-minded debate. That's the problem: people don't value that, I agree but this has nothing to do with the current thread. The thing is, if people don't value differing opinions, there is nothing to do with it. You can't force them to listen to your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:13 PM
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Option X: You explained the relationship between censorship and totalitarism wrong because you are dishonest, and wanted to sell the idea that your so called "feminist censorship" could be the root of a totalitarion dictatorship (fuckin lol). Option Y: You explained it wrong because you are uncultured and genuinely believed that censorship was the cause of totalitarian dictatorships and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:03 PM
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Why do people always think this conversation is about rights? It's not. It's about conversation. There is people that don't want conversion. That's up to them. Yes, they don't have to respond. That's far different from deleting the comment the don't want to respond to and banning the person from the sub. What's wrong with not wanting your conversation, in a place where it doesn't belong? you can't impose your internet dick wherever you want, there are communities that have rules and there are ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:17 PM
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Sigh It was part of a reasoning (two comments ago, that had only 2 possible conclusions, either you are uncultured or you are being dishonest), which you prefer to imply you are dishonest. Era parte de un razonamiento que(el cual) prefieres que implique que eres deshonesto. I see you keep forgetting every instance where it seems like you are wrong, and leave it hanging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:13 PM
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Not common for a man to think men are children are women and superior, wasn't sure if you were aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:04 PM
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For all I'm against misogyny I agree with this. I think trp has a collective inferiority complex and won't be happy until society applauds them. They could simply do their stuff, not do anything illegal, try to act mostly moral, and think whatever they want and let people do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:14 AM
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If you get either of these parties to "give you stuff that... [they] wouldn't give you otherwise" that's called tricking them. No it's not. I didn't imply dishonesty, all I said is that the only reason you approach them is becaus they have someone and you want them to give it to you. You said it yourself when you brought up the boss analogy. If you really hated Tim/the girl you want to sleep with, you wouldn't bother with the significant effort it takes to become the type of person they want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 11:03 AM
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I didn't comment on the thread that I didn't read, and that I didn't deem interesting, I commented on the one that I read. Sorry for your bullet points, you seem attached to them, I'm going to read them now. Sorry for your effort but I can't know about your honesty, or about if you are biased so I won't take your results as true. For the sake of the conversation, though, we will treat them as mostly accurate. It still doesn't address anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:53 AM
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The difference being I take care not to attempt to express things beyond my linguistic level. And I don't hypocritically accuse people of being uncultured in a language I don't speak clearly. It was part of a reasoning that you seem to prefer implies you are dishonest. Fine by me. You are the first and only person to say it's difficult to understand me, so given your doubtful honesty I will not give a shit. Did you have any trouble understanding what I wrote? I have to read your stuff 3 or 4 tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:44 AM
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You're complaining about me not adequately addressing your points, yet you don't even bother to read what I linked to. That's rich. You were aware that I was lacking in time and linked me to the fuckin quixote, give me a break. You're appealing to popularity here. A popular rule (e.g. ban anything that's remotely anti-women or pro-man) is not necessarily a good one. It's not popular at all to ban anti-women or pro-men stuff where I live. It's actually really rare that anything is banned. But hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:38 AM
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It was incredibly funny though. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:31 AM
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How casual that literally every comment you responded before this one had exactly onw downvote, and not before you responded at them. Idc about internet points, I care about honesty and rules. If you don't like the sub rules feel free to get out. Then what did you mean by "make him give you stuff that... he wouldn't give you otherwise"? In what way is that not a trick? What I meant is that Tim is not a friend and that the analogy was dishonest. Want to use the boss analogy better? sure, but don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:31 AM
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Yeah, sounds like this stranger would know how many time do I need for my exam. Can I play some Overwatch too daddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:25 AM
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You are addressing nothing I said. Let's believe hateful comments are a minority (which by the way could main 49% but w/e). It's still a fact that you can't spent 2 hours in there without stumbling unto blatant misogyny. That happens in no other place irl or on the Internet that I frequent, at the very least not without the proper backslash that any hate speech usually brings. Because hate speech is pretty unsuccesful at keeping debate healthy and productive, by the way, biases are never good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:22 AM
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It directly contradicts your example. You're no longer tricking Tim into giving you stuff he wouldn't give you otherwise; you're becoming the type of person Tim naturally would want to be friends with and naturally would want to share stuff with. If that's "tricking" Tim, I "tricked" my employer into thinking I'd be a good hire by getting a graduate degree and years of relevant work experience. I never said "tricking". That's your own words you are refuting. And I guess you mean with that that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:22 AM
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Let me once again showcase my idiocy! http://www.matematicas.us.es/examenes-201516/gradolicenciatura-matematicas/septiembre You don't need to understand Spanish to check the date, jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:19 AM
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Such as? Because from the looks of things it doesn't seem like it. You are talking with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:13 AM
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You gave an incredibly bad example. Op: "We don't hate women!" You: "Yeah, we like women as much as the frenchmen liked their kings!" Me: "Uh, dead?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:11 AM
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I've spent more time in r/trp than in r/tbp, but I have an exam tomorrow and this is already too much procrastinating, let alone looking for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:09 AM
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There are many TRP readers who want emotionally fulfilling relationships. There's a whole sub dedicated to red pill thinking in marriages/LTRs. Posts about LTRs pop up all the time on the main sub. We are talking exclusively about r/trp, which is obviously not aimed at seeking relationships. Show me where TRP teaches these Jedi mind tricks to magically fool women into sleeping with you. If you read TRP, you'll find that there are no such tricks. There are guidelines to make yourself genuinely mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:07 AM
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Your prior comment was irrelevant to the discussion though. It actually implied TRP hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:04 AM
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Sorry you are right nowhere in r/trp will you find misogynistic discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:03 AM
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Red: "What would make you stop saying we hate women? we talk about more stuff other than hating women!" Blue: "You just said you talk about hating women. Maybe when you stop that?" You: "Suuuure, but that is IMPOSSIBLE because you bloopers call EVERYTHING hate" I hope you noticed where are you obviously wrong in here. Idc what TRP is about, if I knew about a literature club that is strictly about literature, but it was almost impossible to spend 2 hours in there without people starting a convers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:02 AM
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I'm not gonna play your game. The poster claims TRP isn't hateful toward women, not that their hate is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:53 AM
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It's not a blooper who deemed it misogyny, it's a terper. When someone accused of racism says "I'm not racist all the time, just sometimes" you don't put the blame on the definition of racism, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:47 AM
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Pretty clearly this makes TRP not a hate group. Choosing not to censor hate is far different than encouraging or preaching hate. That happens all the time too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:43 AM
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TRP doesn't look for an emotional relationship. "You dislike Tim, and you spend considerable time reading and writing stuff on the internet about how to make him give you stuff that you really want and he wouldn't give you otherwise". Sounds plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:42 AM
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Who cares if they were in the wrong? The question here is if they hated them, and I'm pretty sure they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:40 AM
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Are you reading this conversation? Do you still claim that you're assuming that having certain opinions leads to certain crimes which is insane and indeed fascist. ? I don't think you are trying to keep up with this conversation so farewell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 06:03 AM
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You said something incredibly stupid with the only intention of insulting my intelligence and I gave you a couple of examples that proved you wrong. Also if you read carefully the crimes that I talked about were tax evasion and jaywalking; but anyways cold blooded murder was given also as an example. TL;DR: Just fucking admit you were wrong, Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:27 PM
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If you own the country, then you'd be a fascist dictator as opposed to an enlightened ruler Nobody owns countries. Nobody should own a country. And you have no idea what you or me would be as dictators, because that's what you are describing, 2 different dictators, one is totalitarian and the other enlightened, I don't care, that is not worth debating because nobody should own a country. Since the country is essentially owned by the people of that country, if that is the most common attitude, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:13 PM
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Sure, sorry I was busy. Yes, and Rupert Murdoch has his politics, and wields it, just like you. The difference is not attitude, the difference is relative power. The attitude is fascistic. As long as you only have that kind of power over your property, and the notion of property is well defined, that attittude is not fascistic, it's doing what I want with what I have. And yes, sadly media is always going to be biased because of that reason, it's not something I like but it's a direct result of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:11 PM
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I can't speak about a culture that doesn't exist in my country, so for me it's w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 09:10 PM
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So they are called racists, then what? If they have such beliefs and want to voice them, they surely aren't looking for the company of people that strongly disagree with them. If you were to unprovokedly call me racist and hate me I wouldn't care, and I obviously wouldn't want the sympathy of someone like that. It's a win-win situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:56 PM
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Not even our presidential candidates say "violencia machista". Just stop dude, you have no idea of what you are talking about. I'm having problems to find a single word printed about Gamergate in El País, if you are talking about the digital version then yeah digital newspapers have little to no audience or respect in Spain and pretty much anyone can write there. And yeah your Spanish is broken. But it's fine there is no shame on that. Btw did you notice how you stop responding in our comment ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:28 PM
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That's not really about freedom of speech, that's just plain retarded. It has nothing to do with feminism ideals and luckily it isn't endorsed by the system. Nobody should ever be fired for doing something they couldn't know beforehand was going to get them fired, but as you see this is not a feminist government or law doing the harm, it's an unfair boss and a dumb angry mob (which sided with a distorted view of feminism this time, but obviously is not out there policing speech in the streets), …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:14 PM
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Since my English is still way better than your Spanish let's try to not bring that topic lol. Spanish media has no coverage of gamergate, neither pro or anti. And no, Spanish media says mostly domestic violence, it's Spanish feminism who uses the expression "violencia machista", which as you pointed, brings a lot of complains becuase feminism isn't that common here in Spain. And if you had the culture to stablish the actual relationships between censorship and fascism, then you lacked the honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:04 PM
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Just give yourself a real life example of someone being fired because he tried to make use of his freedom of speech, (which is what you are condemning here right?) it will be much quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:37 PM
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I don't know what are you more, uncultured or dishonest, but let's go. I'm Spanish. Spanish people have dealt with censorship in many occasions, as you have pointed. We don't like it. We know how to recognise it. We know how to get around it. We know how to fight it. There is a certain degree of censorship in my country right now, long story short all mainstream media is hilariously pollitically biased to the point of dishonesty. The thing with censorship is that it aims to prevent the weak from…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 07:33 PM
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We still have freedom. If you feel what you want lacks media representation fight for it. If you are left alone it might be because nobody else wants the same thing than you. If a lot of people agree a community will grow and you will be able to enjoy your shared preferences. I repeat, unless the government starts censoring stuff because of feminism, which doesn't happen in my country, I'm not gonna be the retarded reactionary that shouts "nazis". I would ask you join me in celebrating diversity…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 04:19 PM
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Freedom of speech, including the freedom from being fired or publicly shamed because of an unpopular view a person holds is an absolute requirement for basic decency. SJWs with their insidious "get everyone who questions our ideas kicked out of their job wherever possible " tactics are easily as harmful as Nazis. "I want freedom of speech to protect me from the lack of popularity of my opinions. People not telling me what they think of my opinions is an absolute requirement for basic decency. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 04:04 PM
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I keep seeing you guys claiming that, but I don't see that happening here, nor anywhere that I frequent. Maybe you look for a debate in places where they don't want it? What is someone doesn't care about you telling them they are wrong, even with proofs? Isn't that on their right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 04:01 PM
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Sounds great, however that's because in conversation you get to set up the premise that a given play is misogynist, and so we all agree it's a bad play. However, you are the sole authority of what is misogynist, and you have the power to act. That's a problem. That only happens in my theatres. Other theatres will have their politics, or even with my same politics they will disagree on what is misogynistic. You are trying too hard to find the fascism in here buddy. I'm gonna tell you a secret: we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 03:57 PM
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It was a jerkish comment that got some upvotes, don't think this is worth saying the sub has become rad fem. Specially since the lack of downvote button makes outstanding comments climb higher (half people like them a lot and upvote, the people that dislike it can't downvote, but doesn't leave people uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 03:22 PM
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I believe that everyone should agree that this is an obvious statement, and with such basis and the also obvious knowledge that racist and misogyinist jokes spread through population and generate and perpetuate racist and misogynist opinions which are obviously the causes of racist and misogynist crimes, people should probably choose not to throw them, or in case they have some kind of authority disencourage them (i.e. I don't host misogynist plays on my theater, I don't let men molest women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 03:06 PM
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Where feminazis get lost is when you ask for proof that there's anything wrong with noticing a person primarily for some body parts they might have. They will tell you that in a vacuum that's all fine and dandy but when it happens systematically it provokes an unfair system of relationships that harms society. Or including a character in an artwork who is primarily notable for body parts. They will tell you that there is nothing wrong with that, but when all the characters that follow that descr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 02:20 PM
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No I wouldn't and I didn't imply it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 02:12 PM
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Obviously an hermaphrodite, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:12 AM
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Well that's a letdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:10 AM
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Hello there stranger, I see you have a problem with metaphors but fear not! I'm here to help you. First of all please visit this formative link. Thank you! now that you know what a metaphor is I will gladly explain both of these to you: they see her as a pair of tits or a walking vagina When the user talks about men "seeing a woman as a pair of tits or a walking vagina" they don't actually mean that someone can literally see another person as disjointed body parts (jicks), even less your suggest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:06 AM
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It all depends. Who is doing what? With what authority? If twitter chooses to create the council, (either for etical reasons or for fear of the backslash) and as long as all users are aware of this then sure, go on, it's your company. Edit: I think my opinion here might be misinterpreted so to be clear, I would probably stop using twitter if they did something like that, but that's the point of freedom, they are free to not allow what they deem uncivil behaviour at their place and I'm free to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:35 AM
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Both quoted statements are true. But you don't get rid of harmful beliefs by policing thought, you try to teach and convince society of the harm they do. "Misogynistic joke on twitter can lead to mass rapes of women. Culture and institutions created to censor jokes can lead to nothing bad." I'm glad it's you the one who points that you can't properly read, it would have been awkward for me to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 08:46 AM
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My personal beliefs aren't being supported and enforced by the law so how is that totalitarian. Seriously does anyone else here understand the word totalitarian?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:57 AM
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I'm assuming that having the opinion that all black men should die and that it's worth going to jail for it, for example, will lead to certain crimes, mostly tax evasion and jaywalking. Maybe you should apply some logical thinking before calling me insane and fascist for stating the obvious. It is obvious that a lot of crimes come from "opinions", pretty much every cold-blooded murder, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 12:28 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's not and I don't think feminism has any sort of Dhalai Lama whose word trumps any reasoning, so I think I can follow a conversation without bowing to your vagitlerian goddess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:19 PM
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They are as much of a pseudoscience as medicine and statistics, but the even if they weren't sciences they provide measurable results that keep improving over time so yes, they provide actionable information.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:18 PM
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Well then you aren't qualified to talk on this thread, because Nussbaum's the core authority on what constitutes sexual objectification in feminazi dogma. Since there is no such thing as feminazi dogma let my left nut decide if I'm qualified to talk or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:14 PM
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What are you talking about? You don't magically know what thought patterns will cause harm beforehand, sociology and psychology study it based on the results attached to them. Thought patterns that cause rape are harmful. Thought patterns that cause murder are harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:13 PM
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Unless you give me a proper example I have no idea what you talk about. Feminism doesn't interfere with harmless acts. Although you may be talking about stuff that you choose to believe is harmless but is not, similar to many tax evaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:09 PM
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I was addressing the comment I responded to, I have no idea what Nussbaum says nowhere because I haven't read it. Do you know anything about feminism? The basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:06 PM
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No, that's the essence of law. Your freedom to do whatever your dick wants getting on the way of peaceful coexistence is a problem that law solves, not fascism. Do you know anything about fascism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:03 PM
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Who gets to decide on what thought patterns are harmful? Those that cause harm. Would you like it if I had the power to suppress what you think? Nobody does
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:00 PM
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I'm not talking about art here. I'm talking about social values. Promoting the idea that a woman is worth what her body is worth is bad for society and unfair for women. Having most plays perpetuate that idea is bad for society and unfair for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 10:01 PM
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Feminism doesn't want to eliminate people based on their thoughts, they want to eliminate certain thought patterns that cause harm to the relationships between men and women. Convincing people to drop harmful thought patterns is an incredibly hard and laudable task. It's hard for psychologists to make individuals drop thought patterns that are harming the very same individual, imagine with multiple people that actually benefit from them (even thought society as a whole suffers from it).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:58 PM
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or when the objectification of the female body is being showcased as the primary reason for the presence of women. When the primary reason women are featured in a film is their body, that's sexist and perpetuates the idea of them being sex objects which is what causes the larger social problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:52 PM
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It's funny the way you wholeheartly agree with such an ambiguous and either way baseless statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:42 PM
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I believe that stopping racist and misogynist crimes is more important than your ability to reproduce racist and misogynist jokes on mainstream media. Since nobody is policing thoughts, mostly because it is impossible, you have no reason to be scared. Sadly I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:38 PM
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I don't see the problem here. Feminists aren't out there throwing tomatoes at models or anything. There are whole industries revolving around sexual objectification and you don't see the feminism movement attacking them. When you see them fighting against objectification is when it's out of place; when the woman being objectfied is a victim of sorts, that is being put in a place where she doesn't want to be, or when the objectification of the female body is being showcased as the primary reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 07:19 PM
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Yea, thinking about women in a sexual way, like me massaging her ass isn't a crime. I massage my girl's ass all the time. People objectify each other consensually everywhere. Feminism is not against that. The ideology of eliminating people based on their thoughts that you don't like violates the freedom of expression, which many bodies like the United Nations regard as a human right. It's basically what happens in North Korea. Absolutely everything is controlled, so any disagreeing viewpoints or…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 07:03 PM
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Any thought responsible of crimes probably should be eliminated. White supremacy beliefs are dangerous and, if possible, should be eliminated. But feminists aren't killing or putting people in prision for their thoughts, all they do is try to convince the world of the harm those thoughts cause on society, how is that fascist if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 06:36 PM
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Let me get this straight are we working on the assumption that feminists care about what you think? The problem with thoughts is that they translate in actions and those actions can't be properly dealt with if you don't deal with the thoughts that cause them. I'm completely sure every people wouldn't care about racism or misogyny if you couldn't tell racists apart by their acts, but you can. The thing is you can't address every manifestation of racism, misogyny or whatever at once unless you get…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 05:41 PM
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Sure, whatever, have fun with your friends the creationists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 07:32 PM
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By the way I loved the convenient edit after the threat of truth coming up to you in a format that you couldn't dodge, you are you are a master of the arts of the hamstering and angst
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 01:09 PM
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If you actually want me to make a summary of the substance of my arguments without the jest, because for some reason you couldn't accept valid reasonings when they are wrapped in humour, let me know because I will be very happy to collect them all for you <3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 12:17 PM
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Yeah because as it happens, women who accept random approaches from random strangers have increased chances of being victims of rape, kidnapping and murder, because in today society (sadly) it's mostly men who commit thes crimes, so while (heterosexual) men can be happy go lucky because women are really unlikely to commit these crimes, (hetero) women have to deal with the fact that every potential fuck is also a potential murderer. But hey, don't let that a thousand people telling you that the (…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 12:15 PM
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You totally sound like a scientific method guy who changes his views of the world when wrong. Should have just stay silent like you did on the other chains where I pointed at your mistakes without being this overtly pissed. But ey, remember your slogan! Here is the kill shot for this conversation: I believe in the scientific method and therefore will alter hamster my beliefs when evidence overturns what I previously believed. What evidence would overturn your current belief that average men have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 12:08 PM
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Tone is only important when it comes from someone you disagree with that is right, 2 requeriments that she wouldn't find in anyone on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:54 AM
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I love how people who say this kind of shit from their high horses conveniently forget that our inhibitions are also important parts of our character, and many of them come out of our sense of morals which is obviously a big part of our rational mind. "Hurr durr if you would kill a person under the effects of a drug that inhibited all of your logical thinking and sense of morals and gave you a burning rage that you can't comprehend and doesn't go away then you were actually a killer all along!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:47 AM
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Because althought he didn't want to commit a crime, he did it, and we have to punish crimes. If I get drunk and commit murder, you will expect me to pay for my crime, regardless of how drunk I was, because else it may happen again. It sucks for the guy and he probably should get a shortened sentence, but we need to make sure that he never does it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:42 AM
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Ffs they also hide sides of people that are also part of them. If you inhibe my sense of morality but keep my desire for sex surprise surprise it's not me anymore, it's a twisted version of me. Of course drugs don't do literally that but your argument is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:39 AM
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Have you any actual mental disease that I should know of before going on with this conversation or did you just not notice that in my comment I posted an article supporting the theory that men have a higher sex drive than women, something that you never bothered to do? As far as I know you could have heard the whispers of god in your ear, and good for you but you saying so won't ever count as an argument. On the other hand as far as you know I could be Dr. Buss alter ego on reddit and you would …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:27 AM
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What evidence would overturn your current belief that men don't have a higher drive than women? First rule of a scientist, don't go around making random logic leaps from facts to guesses unless it is a controlled assumption that you are trying to proof/disproof. I do think men have a higher drive than women. I also do think that you would believe any proofless bullshit if it supported the way you currently experience reality, but then again this is a guess so don't jump on my throat yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:15 AM
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Wtf are you talking about. My argument is not "you are thirsty", my argument is "you being thirsty doesn't make thirsty the whole male population". Men don't care. They'll take that risk for the chance of pussy. Because they want it more than they want to be safe. This is what a desperate 14 years old or a traumatized adult sound like, or at the very least someone completely out of touch with the reality outside himself. I'm a man. I do care. I will not risk my life for the chance of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:12 AM
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You gave literally 0 evidence so far. You gave a single poor attempt at evidence that has been consistently debunked already, so the burden of proof is still on you. This is a far more convincing link that I quickly got from google and didn't even bother to proofread. And as you see, it kind of agrees with you (obviously not as dumb as saying that men have 5 times the sexual drive of women), but saying "there is an experiment out there that I can't show you right now and it says that men are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 11:08 AM
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Men don't care. They'll take that risk for the chance of pussy. Because they want it more than they want to be safe. You might be thirsty af but I'm not. I've refused to have sex with a girl because she seemed ETS risky. And I'm not exactly drowning on pussy but safety>sex always.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 10:57 AM
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There is obviously a lot more than sex drives going on in that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 10:53 AM
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Just fyi, it is not even close to dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 03:11 AM
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Anticonceptives failure rate and common sense? Pretty sure the burden of proof is on you on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 11:01 AM
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That's not common at all. Anticonceptives barely fail and not many women are interested in having a child with an unwanting dad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:19 AM
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What are you talking about. If a woman and a man have a child, they both share equal responsability, end of the deal. Also it's not an "accident" if you fuck raw and cum inside, it's biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 12:24 AM
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Unless you are a man, in which case feel free to have cakes eat them and whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:08 PM
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Yeah the same people that claim feminists are biased against men tell you that you should treat every man like a loaded weapon, because fuck coherence right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:49 PM
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It means that, it is not an example of Brazilian culture, and it is meant to be taken as an English message. So it's still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:41 PM
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I can tell you. It mostly isn't used in the everyday. Because Brazilian people mostly speak brazilian. This ad is in perfect english for everyone to see and understand, and everyone has seen it and understood it as it presents itself. It is meant to imply sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:55 AM
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People call babe and honey other people they have a close relationship with, but in media, that mostly means other people they have sexual relationships with. There is a reason literally everybody understood the implication. If it wasn't meant to imply sex they could have easily not put any misleading cue. But they didn't. Because they wanted to imply sex. Edit: Let's see what image comes to the Internet hivemind when it hears "babe"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:34 AM
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20 y.o. guy: 3 of my 4 closest female friends watch porn, 2 of my friends girlfriends watch porn, and my ex girlfriend was completely fine with me watching porn (she didn't watch porn herself). Seems like personal experience means shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:28 AM
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Which, were it to be the case, any rational person would explain so that I stop looking at it the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:18 AM
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I could kill you tomorrow with a gun and you would never have a chance to prevent it. And if you did, your life is probably worse than dying. The fact is the main reason we are all alive is because we have agreed to not kill each other. Weakness or strength has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:17 AM
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Do you ever say stuff that actually has meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:16 AM
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That's what the marketing thought. "We will call the other person "babe" in the add, that will make people think it's about farm animals."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 07:15 AM
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You want to proof that being "strong" is better and then your definition of "strong" happens to be literally "better". What the fuck is the point then. Who is strong? Who isnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:46 AM
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Which has nothing to do with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:45 AM
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Yeah. There is limitation to human capabilities. And how hard it is to kill us doesn't really matter because if I want to kill you and I need a gun: surprise, I will get a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:45 AM
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Yeah and it always happens to someone refered as "babe", with no connotations of a sexual relationship whatosever /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:39 AM
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Yeah, men natural instincts of BEING violent/abusive/criminal sound way better. If you have a huge pile of retarded guys they are gonna end up having a huge pile of poorly raised kids, that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:08 AM
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No it's not. It's actually a component of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:02 AM
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No. Unethical practices are keeping it behind since we made a business out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:00 AM
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Literally everybody is weak enough to be murdered. This sub needs a dumb-o-meter sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:58 AM
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Which is literally the most logical thing to do. Denying your emotions is actually a deeply emotional answer that stems from self-loath, shame or anger and is obviously illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:39 AM
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I am also one of millions of men, but I'm not egotistical enough to think I can talk for them. You are just a sad kid that needs a psychologist, but I don't think you will want the help you need, so you are actually helpless. I'm sincerely sorry. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:32 AM
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I repeat: You are not millions of men. Your word isn't the word of millions of men. You can't make up reality on the spot. You want to tell me that's reality? Easy then, prove it. I have no personal desires for anything because I am not a feminist, nor do I have any feminist friend. You are just sad and angry and want reality to agree with you, but you don't get to stick your sadness into others people butt. You say that's "reality"? Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:17 AM
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My personal experience would mean jackshit if it weren't shared by millions of men who were able to compare notes and figure out a feminist modus operandi. Try another dodge. No need to dodge because that literally doesn't happen outside of your rage fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 08:56 AM
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You didn't talk about your life. You talked about a random example. Your personal agenda and your venting off is not my business. The problem with people like me is that we actually care about misjudging people. But I'm of the opinion that it's not a problem so I will be fine. Once again and for ever: Your personal experience means jackshit about how the world actually is. Feminism doesn't bring anything bad to the world unless the shameless ally with the idiots to bring injustice, and that is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 12:46 AM
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I've never talked about your life. It's you who brought it up for no reason whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 03:38 PM
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I couldn't care less about your history. Nobody in this sub does, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 02:57 PM
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Something "making sense" and something being proved is not the same. Religions make sense within themselves, but you can't go quoting the bible as factual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 09:43 AM
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That's so fucking retarded. If YOU forcibly put people on the kiddie table don't be surprised when they revel and act uncivil. Which didn't even happen anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 09:32 AM
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Which has nothing to do with feminists being cruel and manipulative bitches. Try another justification for your puerile misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 01:35 AM
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Yeah well, I ask for more than "dis bitch did wrong to me", I'm sorry if that is impossibly high criteria but I don't give a shit about your backstory. The "female narrative" that you talk about is no less than the whole history of humanity so yeah they got a bit more of credibility than you on this stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 11:38 AM
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It takes more than one case to associate the behaviour with literally every feminist woman. Specially since there are feminists that live happily with their couples and literally prove you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 06:48 PM
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Yeah because your personal experience is proof of so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 12:56 AM
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A physical confinement looks, on paper, more "real" or "objective" than changes in personal relationships, but if your neighbours hated you and actively tried to make your life worse because you did x thing they find inmoral, it would probably feel as real and objective as any other legal punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:31 PM
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It is pretty obvious which one was more harmful in your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:23 PM
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A complete bitch upgrades on her husband, destroys him emotionally and financially, and then claims she did nothing wrong, even though she cheated on him. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:22 PM
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It is not a lie if you expect it beforehand. It's only a lie if there is the intention of deception. A girl with make up isn't a lie in the same vein that an exaggerated compliment isn't a lie, neither part is oblivious to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:18 PM
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The consent of a 10 y.o. kid is pretty void of meaning. You have to set a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 11:58 AM
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Since there is no 1:1 relation between emotional repression and delinquency, and there is way more causes to delinquency other than that one, yeah it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm also not gonna look for that article to be honest, just because you quote it. And, uh, nobody takes seriously randos on the internet 99% of the time, and probably nobody should. I think you take yourselfe way more seriously than you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 08:43 AM
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Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology Volume 17 Issue 4 Febuary Article 3 Winter 1927 Factors Contributing to Juvenile Delinquency K. M. Banham Bridges Literally nothing to do with the topic still? I'm not white kinghting my mom. She was alcoholic and her boyfriends probably needed more protection than she did. That has nothing to do with this topic though, nor does your sucky childhood. Single experiences mean nothing. I am not someone who can't articulate his emotions because luckily I met t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:54 PM
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Masculine culture is natural to be learned by young boys from older men, and to a lesser extent, from society as a whole. It's not "the menz", it's how learning works, imitation is the first and for a long time strongest form of learning. And yeah, if a mother has to raise a child on her own, it is only natural to praise her and to wonder where is the father. I'm a man, and I know where I have been taught that showing my feelings isn't apropiate, or shows weakness, or makes people treat me worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:27 PM
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School mates 2 year older, neighbours and teachers are all available parental figures in those cases, but I guess this is (yet again in this sub) not about understandin how the world works but about finding ways to shit on women. So yeah I guess it's single mothers (or mothers over all, not sure what do you want to blame) who punish emotional expression in men. It's not I really care though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:45 PM
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Uh.. the lack of a father figure seems like the most obvious reason in that example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 07:41 AM
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That doesn't the change how unlikely it is for it to happen to everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 07:39 AM
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Because that totally happens to a lot of people. I bet you a good amount of zeros if you want, that's not happening to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 03:42 PM
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There are many other incentives out there other than women. In fact it's mostly masculine parental figures (not necessary fathers) who punish emotional expression in men. Think of a boss, an uncle, a grandpa, any member of your sport team, etc. Not everybody, ofc, but this is not about women, it's about society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 12:06 PM
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That is the implication of what you said. Aborting has a lot of impact on the women body, condoms have nothing of it. You get knock her up, you pay your part buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 12:01 PM
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I won't ever understand why there is such rampant hate towards what is nothing but smoke, but w/e. You are aware of what I meant, you are aware that you made an illogical jump just to insult half the collective this sub is made towards, and you are aware of the intellectual weight in your words. And if you aren't, more of a reason to drop this convo already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 12:00 PM
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And man could keep his pee pee in his pants. So yes, he wants a child too, what a nice happy family we got.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:57 AM
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The blue pill narrative is "redpill sucks balls" and it will never be anything else. Blue pill people only have that in common, we are otherwise people with quite different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:45 AM
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And women did want? I'm sorry but both are equally responsible so both are expected to support the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:42 AM
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One man's propaganda is another man's effective marketing tool, the latter of which typically has an element of truth to it. Keep in mind that most TRPers were blue pill but you don't get many going the other way. That is exactly what I called propaganda. No. Most redpillers were deluded and have now bought the idea that they were because the rest of the world is deluded too, in a narrative where everybody who rejects their ideas (i.e. bluepill, since that is the definition of being BP) is alleg…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:16 AM
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I would rather share a naked sweaty hour with a girl without getting to cum than jerk it off alone. But hey, to each their own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:01 PM
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And that is not what I seek when I seek sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:01 PM
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I know what is opportunity cost. It has little to nothing to do with this but ey, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:21 PM
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I gave an obviously made up number that I got from multiplying your also made up number for 4. We both obviously have no clue, but since we have no clue it would probably be better to drop the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:14 PM
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as far as you have arguments you are free to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 05:34 PM
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I am noone to talk about men as a whole, but I don't think that would be a reason to want more sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 05:04 PM
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Since you still gave the example it still gave the wrong idea so I pointed at the actual difference between you and a housewife, for the sake of contextualized information. If you clean from top to bottom in about 3 hours, a housewife would need around 12 hours. That is a huge step.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:52 PM
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The only difference between an ahteist and an agnostic is that the first choses to believe in what they experience and no more than what they experience, while the second prefers to have doubts. Which are both fine. A blue piller could be any of them in this comparation. A blue piller is someone who doesn't believe in the redpill in the same vein than agnostics and atheists don't believe in religions, how much are you sure of your disbeliefs or how much do you believe in any alternative you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:41 PM
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That is true. It has nothing to do with ideology though, and more to do with the malice behind satire/hate subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:34 PM
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Are you aware that the amount of housework scales with the amount of inhabitants in the house? For a n-person family a housewife has to clean n times the amount of dirt you clean, n times the amount of clothes in your laundry, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:32 PM
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Because "anyone else" includes "people you barely know" in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:30 PM
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That is more than ok, because it is better to be aware that you lack knowledge than to embrace a fake religion like (most) christians and terpers do, and delude yourself until reality proves you painfully wrong, or even worse, you miss out on a lot of things because you were never proved wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:27 PM
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How is it not a debate. In the hypothetic scenario where one person brings a lot of ideas and arguments that support them, and the other person brings a lot of counter-arguments that refute such ideas, it is still a debate. "You are wrong" is a completely valid position to take in a debate, as far as you have arguments you are free to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:20 PM
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But if something is stupid and you can prove that you don't need to offer an alternative. The implied alternative is "do nothing" or "look for a better answer", but if the first idea is demonstrably wrong, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 04:16 PM
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You don't need a cause to be persistent for it to be a cause. It was also a theoretical scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 03:01 PM
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Great, fear of rapists is not the reason women won't spontaneously sleep with someone That's not actually what I said (althought I mostly agree). Saying that not being a rapist isn't enough to be picked isn't the same that saying that fear of rape isn't the cause of being picky. I hope I'm being clear. Theoretically, women could have started being picky because fear of rape, that would make men more desperate, would give women the opportunity to be picky with more stuff and we would reach a simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:43 PM
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They wouldn't have sex with a guy even if they thought he isn't a rapist, because their selection is all about value, not just "don't be a rapist". I mean, of course, why would you sleep with anyone just because he is not a rapist. The more you can get, the better. But it is true that most rational women take into account their safety when meeting guys. Why can women afford to choose? That has been answered a couple of times alread, and btw it has nothing to do with my introspection. Men are ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:29 PM
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In fact, most rapes take place after the selection, so that should tell you what it's worth. It doesn't, because we can't compare it with a world with no selection. And yeah, once you can afford to choose, you choose what you like the most, that's a pretty easy conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:04 PM
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"Decent human being" is my speak for "if you can help your couple with something and there is no loss for you, go for it". And it runs for both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:02 PM
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That is not what I said but to be honest, really socially awkward people seem really risky because they might have some mental illness that you can't really know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:00 PM
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They are on the same level of unattractiveness than the obese woman. But I'm still not gonna imply they are infrabeings like you did with the "landwhale that made you wanna puke". Yeah the scrawny ugly guy is less unattractive than the obese woman (I guess), so then what.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:58 PM
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I just realized you are the same guy I called misogynistic in another separate comment. I am sorry because I didn't want to come as abrasive, I thought that it was 2 separate redditors (which, btw, means I saw hints of misogyny in 2 separate comments of yours which probably means you might want to think about it) And yeah, sexual desire isn't a choice, but acting desparate is. Nobody will ever tell that I'm desperate for sex no matter how much I jerk off at home, and everybody can do that. But m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:55 PM
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I have absolutely nothing against men, in fact the person I love the most in this world and with whom I plan to share the rest of my life is a man, and you will never hear me bring up gender differences because I am aware I have it easier than the other sex in many ways. The way you described you really unattractive guy as a human being that deserves be treated as such (he is) and the really unattractive woman as a disgusting thing that makes you puke shows pretty obvious bias against in favor o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:50 PM
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Cumming is by far the least important part of sex for me as a man. Don't compare masculine orgasm to femenine orgasm because they are pretty far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:45 PM
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This is the common blue pill misconception. Red Pill men are not out to "attack" you. They are out to maximize the benefits for themselves. That's cool in paper but we all know the amount of misogyny running through redpillers. To women who are used to being treated like princesses with the men always sacrificing, being treated equally is akin to abuse. That's something I have never seen in my life. I have seen it as an excuse for men to avoid being decent human beings a couple of times though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:42 PM
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You mean that both genetic parents of a children who are equally responsible for his existence are expected to take responsability of him? Astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:39 PM
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They run that risk when they are not selective. The more selective they are, the less risk they run, pretty simple. The risk is never zero obviously, but such is life. Why though? Isn't it because women need more than just sex? There is an equal number of men and women, why is it much easier to get sex for women? Because guys choose to be desperate and can afford to have no standards, and women being forced to have higher standards have given them the benefit of being able to pick. Btw you might…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:35 PM
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Now. Even if we assume you're right and that an average dude, not scrawny, not short, with mustache shaved away, is able to arouse a woman, then the obvious question is - why doesn't it happen IRL? It's been happening for quite a couple of centuries. Btw and just a heads up, you are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:29 PM
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Then they obviously can compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:23 PM
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If women didn't need the emotional connection part, why would they risk getting raped or murdered in order to maybe reach an orgasm, when they could simply use a dildo? They don't run that risk, and the way is being selective, as it was just explained. And emotional connection isn't important for women, it is important for some people and not for others, but there are a lot of women who don't need any connection to enjoy sex. Everybody likes sex, it's just that casual sex has harsher consequence…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:21 PM
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Heh, bro I think those attractive girls who are awesome and such are putting your friends in the beta bux category. To date a girl is no compliment at all. It doesn't make the guy feel desired, at least I don't. If the same girl is offering the poon to me for free.. now I feel wanted. Relationships are for free. These guys aren't precisely richy rick and actually one of them is getting a lot of random presents from her gf because they are both pretty nerdy and she has more money. If you don't un…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 01:08 PM
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This is the tell-tale of a man's smv, the value he has as a human being - as a man - in the eyes of a woman depends on the guy's smv. That is just not true. You can have a lot of value for a person and not result them attractive and you can be a meaningless fuck soon to be forgotten. And the friends I have that can't get laid are for a variety of issues, one was fat, other is terribly shy, other has problems talking with people he doesn't know, etc. (and well they are average looking guys, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 02:55 PM
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I am a guy. I have male and female friends. I am not specially attractive, and many of my friends flat out can't get laid, while many others can. We are all perfectly happy people and hang around with girls a lot, my best friend is a girl and the very same guys that can't get laid end up in long relationships with awesome cute girls (like I did myself). And I'm talking about 20 y.o. students that don't have a penny on their pockets most of the time. People are not animals. Relationships aren't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:39 AM
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That is not reality. That is your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:30 AM
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mras are all over the place and all you can do is talk about what you have seen the most. That is not male shaming, it's stating what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:28 AM
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If you think that his comment was about "feels over reals" you are seriously deluded, and probably don't know how law works in real life. He isn't talking about him "feeling it is wrong" (which would be anyways completely fine and not a reason to be surprised). He is describing an illegal situation and trying to correctly describe it as he sees fit. Which is not exactly easy in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:25 AM
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I swear I didn't look it up. If something is an issue for women, laws get changed. If it's an issue for men, not so much. I mean, it's been a small chunk of centuries being the other way around, you'd imagine that we need some time to work out on this area to make society equal, and that if women have been historically the underdog they are who need to be helped out to achieve equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:22 AM
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Tbf I've never heard it happen. I'm pretty sure this almost never happens in my country (Spain) and based on what I usually read here it might be an exclusively american issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 05:04 AM
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If all gender is a social construct Nobody believes that premise, thus the wrong conclusions. It makes sense that, as the eons went along, evolution would optomize people for these social roles. Evolution has no agenda. Stuff happens or doesn't, evolution doesn't care about society. Could it be that's for a reason and that nature made the genders different in order to optimize doing certain tasks? That sounds reasonable to me. You seem to believe that nature has a mind and intentions. It doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:43 PM
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That doesn't mean the gender differences we find everyday around steam from that. In fact I already mentioned that I know there are biological gender differences, but most of the stuff that makes up gender roles is still a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 08:44 PM
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Nobody finds fat people attractive some just settle to their proper level because it's not particularly important to them to better themselves. That's a lie. There are porn sites dedicated exclusively to Big women. The rest of the post. You are obsessed with physical appearance and have become elitist about it. You might want to check that. There is more to life than your physic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 06:19 PM
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That's because those threads are made on forums that attract the people who have had those experiences. Also, I would never judge a woman for being virgin, but I would prefer her to have some experience. There is no "virgin shaming" out there, but it is only logical that there is preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:35 PM
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But then there is no huge amount of those, it's not enough to evidence a treand, specially when there are anecdotes in the opposite direction too. Tbf the only real way to find a treand would be to actually poll people. Yeah people can lie, but psychologists and sociologists get around that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:25 PM
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It's not a fact that attractive people are better than unattractive people in many aspects, that just smells like your own self-steem problems. That is like saying that fun people are better than unfun people in many aspects, and that we should actively talk about how bad is people that are less fun than other people, and that they will be treated less well by everyone, mand and woman, because of it. I prefer to simply, you know, treat people like people, and not finding fat people attractive (w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:22 PM
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Using your judgament and judging people for their looks are two really different things, I hope you are aware. Anyways you just described that you disagree with judging people by they looks so we are fine here. I think it would do our entire society well to actively talk about how unattractive it is. And to accept that attractive people are better than unattractive people in many ways. That's like... your opinion man. And despite what you all will say I've got several women friends, and have spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:12 PM
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It is evidence of something. Which may be anxiety over social stigma. It is not proof that the woman you are about to lose your virginity with cares about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:54 PM
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It proves there is people that care and people that doesn't and then nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:52 PM
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Because it isn't. Nothing I can do about that. You are at the very least expected to give a reason for it. Else you just look like a moron. Prejudices have helped people for thousands of years, it's not any different now. Better for who? Certainly not the individual, that only leaves the group. Prejudices with the wrong basis have slowed down humanity and avoided great things for as much time if not more. Not having prejudices towards women, fat people, and gay people has let me get to know awes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:49 PM
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That has nothing to do with judging people. That is called attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:41 PM
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You can think whatever the hell you want. You haven't addressed the way I described my conduct besides pointlessly calling it "not congruent". I never said anyone should do anything for anyone. I said people should get over prejudices asap, because I'm pretty sure they are gonna get over them eventually and they are better off without them. I'm not actually a /r/BluePill user, but I don't think that making fun of people that you find stupid is something that doesn't make sense for an individuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 02:45 PM
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He is not pretty or beautyful but I think he is physically attractive, specially for his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 02:37 PM
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I have met many women that are willing to trade sex for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:39 PM
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That is not feminism. Even if not only the few things you have heard, but also every feminist in the world, agrees with something, that also doesn't make it feminism. All feminists agree that killing toddlers for amusement is bad right? There are many more reasons to agree. Maybe you were reading unattractive opportunistic feminists venting. Maybe you were reading misinformed people. I'm pretty sure you weren't reading someone who spent year studying gender differences and the patriarchy in our …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:35 PM
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Damn that was a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:26 PM
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Feminism is an ideology. You are a feminist if you believe that women and men should play in equal grounds, and be treated as human beings. The fight against Women Objectfication has being in the agenda for a good while, if a self-proclaimed feminist wants fat women to be objectified in media too because they deserve it as much as any other hot grill then they didn't understand feminism at all. Words have definitions. Scotsmen are born in Scotland. Gamers play games. Feminism has its meaning too…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:13 PM
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That only works if you don't enjoy the company of people and the only reason you interact with them is sex. Which probably means you are missing out on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:06 PM
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He is attractive lol. Look at his face. He doesn't give a fuck and has whatever he wants. Plus, he is the goddamn Piano Mano. Sure he is old, and that is a deterrent, but if he were younger he would be leading Team Man Love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:04 PM
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I'm curious to what "science" you believe in that postulates that gender is not a social construct. I'm pretty sure psychology and sociology had agreed already that while there is a biologic basis, the biggest part of the stuff we associate with gender differences comes from society or is heavily endorsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:49 AM
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That isn't in the "fat acceptance" agenda, it's in the "media that recently realized that selling cosmetics to fat people makes money too" agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:38 AM
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Real feminists only care about beauty standards in the sense that judging and assigning her value to women because of their beauty is misogynistic, and when those standards promote unhealthy behaviours between the younger and more influenciable girls. A feminist would never promote the setting of a new beauty standard. As a feminist all I care about beauty standards is that people isn't treated like shit for not meeting them (which happens to women a lot).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:36 AM
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I only can read what you write, no more and no less. Also you have yourself in too high steem, for a guy that "has no perceptions". Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 10:21 AM
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No it's not. I don't do that for the collective, I do it for myself. I don't do that for the golden rule or for ethics or whatever, I do it because it maximizes my happiness through a more complete life experience. I only debate about collective things because the topic is brought, but although these are topics where I have stance and an idea of what would probably better, I don't give a crap, because on the large scheme of things, it probably won't affect me. What affects me is what I do, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 09:30 AM
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No. Read what perception means. That was literally retarded. Also, you seem to think that everybody skewes the truth but yourself, and that you are in posession of the absolute truth since you "work on face value and judge people based on how they act".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 09:24 AM
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default to gender similarities. How is that a female supremacist would also be BP then? How is that an individualist like me is BP too? There is one thing in common for al BPers: dislike of RP. No more and no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 01:05 AM
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I have zero perceptions of people. I work on face value. I judge you based on how you act. I don't trust anyone because everyone skews the truth for their benefit that's a simple truth of human nature. All I trust is what I experience firsthand. That is literally retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:29 AM
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Well feelings aren't something you control right? Of course they are. You control your life, the state of your mind, your prejudices and your perceptions of people, and those are the stuff that feed your feelings right? You have built yourself a narrative where "hurr durr I don't trust people, people are boring" and of course if you want and expect to not like people you won't like them. That is simply self-isolation though. There is a reason why most people is doing fine in their social interac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 11:57 PM
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You are certainly the second less interesting and self aware person I have got to interact with this year, so I would understand why your interactions with people are boring. Hint: when most of YOUR social interactions suck, there is a single constant in the experiment right? I'm not gonna give you any more credit after this amount of bs, but at least I'm gonna try to educate you in a couple of sinmple things. misognist and a masagonist. There is no such word as "masagonist". Hating on men is ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 08:39 PM
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Majority of women ( to me ) have no value other then their vaginas. You can ask whoever makes the definitions I only approach women based on their looks and quickly learn there is no substance But these are the phrases of a misogyne I only know what you told us. And you told us this was your attitude. Do you think that if I had this attitude I would be meeting interesting people? Majority of men (to me) have no value other than their anus I only approach men based on their looks and quickly lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 08:16 PM
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Are you being obfuscating? You won't find sugar looking for salt in the ocean. Your attitude towards women makes it particularly difficult for you to meet interesting personalities. Women are as interesting as men, probably more if you are a man (for the sake of variety), but you don't behave towards women like they were people, so you don't get to know interesting women. I only approach women based on their looks and quickly learn there is no substance Attractive women with substance probably w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 08:03 PM
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Majority of women ( to me ) have no value other then their vaginas. This attittude causes Majority of women I meet are boring, have terrible communication skills, have no sense of humour, and can not hold my interest. Which reinforces the attittude but doesn't make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:50 PM
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The self-fulfilling prophecy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:32 PM
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Dude, I don't get off on watching gay porn. Even if the guys are hot. If women get off by having sex with other women or by watching lesbian porn that makes them lesbians or bisexuals. Women don't get off on the acts and feel of the porn what the hell does that even mean? And how can men replicate that to get laid? They can't. You could read the fucking link if you really wanted an answer. Long story short: When men watch porn they insert themselves in the scene, so if you are hetero you don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:30 PM
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Alpha and Beta is not in how you look, it's in how you behave, and a lot of your attractiveness is in there too. Plus, different people has different tastes, specially women (since standard masculine attractive isn't sold by the media as heavilly as standard femenine attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:26 PM
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Ok since BP is an ideology define it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 04:36 PM
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I know that is what you RPers belive, but really, reality was not as simple as the "Blue Pill" you believed in before RP, and isn't as simple as the RP. What you would call BPers as per they believe in all the stuff you believed before you learned about the red pill is what we laugh at in /r/niceguys. And there we are mostly people that would identify themselves here as BP, because, I repeat, being BP doesn't mean that "you believe your physic doesn't really matter, and if you are nice with girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 08:48 AM
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If you say so I will believe it. But then you should know for a fact that there are many traits that will influence personality in your ADN. We are no tabula rasa.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:31 PM
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The "BP" ideology is an imaginary concept in redpillers minds, just because there is an "objective concept" in your head it doesn't mean it's real. People in the BP sub as a whole dont suscribe to other ideology than "damn RP sucks" and people with BP tags here are pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:09 PM
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Culture isn't a book of hard rules. People in your position are more likely to be obese than people building a pyramid, that is obvious right? Well, in our culture it is way easier to be overweight than in many others, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:55 PM
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Right BP is still a narrower ideology BP is not an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:50 PM
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There is no question about the subject that you couldn't just google, so it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:49 PM
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I wasn't talking about RP at all until you brought it up. I was talking about society as a whole, since it's obvious that judging people over random shit is a trait that we keep eventually getting over, we might aswell get done with it asap. BP sure does have a weirdo hate boner for RP Are you aware of what means BP? Being BP literally means that you despise RP, no more and no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:25 PM
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"That's a theory, but I disagree" said the rando with no knowledge at all on the biology behind emotions (that obviously shape many personality traits) and the genetics behind that biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:21 PM
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Kind of, althought society obviously doesn't have a mind of its own or an agenda, it certainly makes the wind blow in a certain direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:20 PM
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Nobody will prove ever that you should or shouldn't judge people. It just stops you from knowing amazing people when you judge them for things you shouldn't. If somebody proved that we shouldn't judge people from not being hetero or christian then you can use that same proof. This is the field of social interaction, there is no big wrongs or rights in a lot of the stuff, that's the whole reason you guys can keep pointing that technically nothing you do is wrong. Not like it's right either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:31 PM
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Yeah well we got over it for religion, race, sexual preference, we kinda should stop judging on people for stuff that is about them and only about them and focus on when their actions have consequences for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:13 PM
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It's because it's not "the best" predictor, it's the only predictor. Past behavior is a pretty bad predcitor but if you really need a predictor, then you will have to use past. The less past it is, the better predictor it becomes. I'm pretty sure you guys are familiar with the concept of extrapolation and why is it bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:04 PM
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I don't have learned helpelessness. That is the whole point. You would have if you were born in another place in another age. "You" is a construct, more than half your personality comes from the things you've learned. Reality is I'd rather die than live in oppression Bet your ass 7 y.o. you wasn't that way. Most people prefer living, even strong willed adult men were enslaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:56 PM
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Yeah you are delusional. I'm sure you were a big schemer at 7 y.o., with huge stakes too to become the hero of that fanfic of yours. You need to get in touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:50 PM
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Are you crazed? Wtf was that? I thought I made it pretty obvious but what I meant is that it's something that could have happened (to you, to anyone) because it used to be pretty common. Reality /= what I want to do with strangers on the Internet dude. Quote the part when I say "I would".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:43 PM
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For me, punishment works in a more ... hmmm I have to do this this and this not to get caught. It does so with everyone. Except when they cut off your hand for taking something that wasn't yours, or when they chop off your tongue for speaking up the wrong opinion. You are who you are because you learned to be that way, not because it is The True Manifestation of your Inmortal Soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:37 PM
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And no, you are not a film protagonist whose determination shall change the world as we know it Here you missed this part when writing your D&D FanFic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:31 PM
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You can be as stubborn as you want. You have learned to be reactionary, and the benefits of imposing yourself over what other people want or expect. In another era, you would have being heavily shut down when young for example. And no, you are not a film protagonist whose determination shall change the world as we know it, if you had strong punishments you would be much more inclined to obey when mandated, etc, because you would have learned that to be the best way to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:23 PM
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Your identification is strictly worse than theirs thought, regardless of it being right for some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:55 PM
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It's as simple as the golden rule and the prissioner dilema. If the world can be slightly better without me really losing anything then so be it. Most morally questionable things that are debatably useful aren't but shortcuts through life that hinder your experience of reality. Life isn't about winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:52 PM
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I think humans come out as a blank state and everything is shaped by our environment That's not true thought. We are born with many genetic traits that will shape our personality too, it's a mixture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:37 PM
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You aren't born sarcastic. You experience reality, and develop affinities to some things but not to others though, so it is obviously not as simple as "media shapes your head", but born in another era you would have a way different personality, because experiencing different realities you would develop different affinities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:35 PM
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Could it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:57 PM
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To be fair there is nothing more alpha than a sociopath. Alpha doesn't need to be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:55 PM
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Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:33 PM
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=psychological+damage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:25 PM
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I'm so sorry about you guys. I'm pretty sure most girls I know would take care of me in case of need, even discouting partners. I'm pretty sure it has to do with me being spanish and most people in these subs being NA but damn feels bad to read your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:12 PM
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Society doesn't need to literally tell you what to do. Society doesn't even have an agenda, it's just there, surrounding you and giving you more or less options, incentives, or pressure. If people insult me or mistreat me, my base instinct is to blame them and want to spite them. Then the system gets to perpetuate itself, because the screw that didn't fit is seen by the rest as spiteful and antagonistic, and less people will want to follow that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:07 PM
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The first thing you find out was a lie is Santa, then god, then true love. Don't be such a killjoy. True love exists, it's just not what media sells us. Tbh in my opinion it is better than the watered down romcom version.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:01 PM
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I don't really care about social imperative. I care more about my inner sense of being above the crowd in some way or another. Feeling very grand or larger than life. That is literally one of the main things that society sells us though. Don't follow the norm! Be different than the rest! You are being such a special snowflake!.. Like everyone else around. The truth is society influences everyone, to a bigger or lesser degree, in one area or in another, sometimes blatantly and sometimes subtly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 09:57 PM
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It is important to note that the most obvious connotation of the act of firing people is the power relationship established. In that sense, the firer is fucking in the butt the fired, more often than not without its consent, a metaphorical rape so to speak. It is obviously stretching the rope but I think the reason why such act would cause depression on women is because (in my opinion because of social imperative, in the opinion of many other because of biological nature, maybe a mix) most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:49 PM
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They do judge women quite harshly though, at least in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:14 PM
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The current joke we call "marriage", fake marriage, is just part of the slow destruction of everything. The nihilism of our time. The nihilism of our time, and of every time before, is and will always be people that complains about progress and call it decadence. There will always be people like you, forever longing for a worst time that they really don't know shit about. Don't pretend like this means I don't care about you. Women really just do not get how much my enjoyment is seeing you enjoy …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:12 PM
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The problem is that, unlike you, most people that talks about these thoughts aren't doing ot for the sake of debate, in fact it's usually the other way around, they are so bought onto these ideas being the pure truth behind how the world works that they preach them unto others, which is why the debate isn't common (because we all know how likely is that people that are sure of an idea change their mind because of a debate with the opposite part).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:50 PM
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You should look for a psychologist or some sort of therapist and talk about all this with him. This is not a joke, I mean it, and I'm sure that it will make your life way happier and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:44 PM
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You are right, questioning it isn't what perpetuates it, it's the silent acceptation which does. I just wanted to point out that the fact that we unconsciously believe that to some degree isn't proof it's right at all. Remember there is a lot of misoginy running through here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:36 PM
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Just to be clear, I don't want to blame men specifically for this, because I believe it too. I am just as guilty if not more so than everyone else. You belive it because you have been taught so, it's not a universal truth or some shit. Nobody alive today is to blame for that, but perpetuating that thought is pointless and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 04:10 PM
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Close. I think they are being stupid, and yeah it's simple. I don't think they are infrabeings for that, evreybody is stupid at certain things or in certain situations, but calling out when something is stupid is important and useful in my opinion, as far as it refrains people from falling into such behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:04 PM
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They sort of do. But they aren't trained very well in research. They just sort of trust their gut and the shit they read online. That's not true. If you try to research you have to dodge the piles of medical evidence and get onto the pseudoscientific bullshit with barely backup at all that reinforces what you initially thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:55 PM
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you or you investigate things on your own I gave you another completely reasonable option, that you clearly respect more. Anti vaccine people does neither. You do realize doctors were the ones who supported sterilization, lobotomies, heroin, turpentine And now they don't. Because science marches on. Unlike people who read a long word and are afraid it will cause autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:45 PM
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If it required you to do something to not get tested there would be no way to make you avoid the test without being incredibly suspicious, while men that don't feel comfortable with testing themselves aren't going to be forced to. Seems like a win-win. Can't see the scenario where a cheating woman manipulates a dude to not get tested without being blatantly obvious. To make it even safer we could make it something the doctors talk with the father* and the mother doesn't even need to know if the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:41 PM
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To be fair I don't endorse that but it sounds like one of those things that are terrible but make the world a better place, and then 20 years later causes the end of civilization as we know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:30 PM
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There is harm if the man in question decides there is harm ffs. Why "mandatory"? Why not simply an standard procedure that you can choose to not have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:26 PM
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Luckily enough they don't. But when they morons coordinate (they do) the government takes it into account because morons vote the same than regular people and shout twice louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:13 PM
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If they told you the very own components of your blood you would react the same way, either you understand that doctors have more knowledge on medicine than you or you investigate things on your own. Vaccine fears are stupid in the age of Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:11 PM
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I'm a man and I agree with all that thing. Your move. Or your argument was "You have no penis you don't get to talk"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:03 PM
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I don't endorse going out of my way to protect people that would go out of their way to not be protected, in this case out of idiocy. Making it mandatory would raise complains from those very men that you want to protect, because when they exist they probably smell the shit but don't want to realize the truth. I think making it a free option and actively endorsing it so that it isn't looked down upon should be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure that we shouldn't shame or call creepy any guy approaching, there needs to be a way for people to meet new people, what should feel creepy is when someone, under any context, ever, won't leave you alone after being politely rejected. That is one of the things that makes people so scared and triggers feminists so much about men's approachs and I can see why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:48 PM
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How could being confident and funny not attractive? I'm a guy and I find it attractive, because well, positive traits are attractive. If you demonstrate a hell of a certain positive trait in the first 2 minutes after meeting someone that didn't expect it, well, you obviously got a lot going for yourself. (That is disregarding the obvious fact that those are particularly attractive traits)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:41 PM
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Would feminism be effective were it addressed from a non-feminist stand point? How is the red pill androcentric when it's derived from observations of the female imperative? The party is over guys he is trolling :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:34 PM
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My brain suspects he is trolling but my heart needs to believe he is for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:32 PM
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You don't need to be egalitarian to be BP, you simply have to dislike TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:30 PM
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I'm fangirling so hard at you<3 I agree that mods here are doing an amazing work, given the amount of people with really big fixations on their views, but on the other hand people like that make for amazing threads like this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:21 PM
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There is no blue pill. BP subreddit only exists to mock TRP, people who call themselves BPers only have in common that they despise TRP. A purple pill doesn't totally swallow the red pill but agrees with certain stuff here and there. As many people have told you before: There is no BP ideology and you will find out that it's impossible to search for it on the internet because it doesn't exist. This forum is about debating TRP views between people with really different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:15 PM
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It is not your brain though. It is society. Nobody becomes misoginistic on his own, you need a group to circle jerk on your hate on women to reassure you that you are right, because (shockingly) hating half the human population is not the natural thing to do. And following that rule you might aswell exclude yourself from society to avoid getting hurt. The logical thing to do is to fix or avoid concretely the parts that hurt you, not hate on all women as a rule of thumb and call it a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:20 AM
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The negative long term emotions are there to tell you that you didn't get there yet, the positive long term emotions are there to tell you that you did. Having a constant negative emotion that tells you that you need to be better may be awesome to success in life, but it will make it impossible for you to be happy and in peace. If you have watched dragon ball for example, both goku and vegeta spent a huge chunk of their lives, if not the whole thing, training to be stronger fighters, but while g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:16 AM
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Agreed. Life is harsh but neutral, biggest enemies lie within.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:56 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I said though. Misoginy is not a natural hate, and although it is born from a natural feeling you have to cultivate it to keep it alive. We already agreed that pain has purpose, but holding onto hate is as useful as hitting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:53 PM
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Cultivating a negative emotion that is supposed to alarm you from threats and conditioning yourself into associating it to half the human population seems kind of a bad way to channel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:24 PM
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"Hate has its purpose"/="life is better with hate". Pain has its purpose, but as a rule of thumb people is less happy when they have to suffer pain on a daily basis. Hate being the spark of whatever is fine, then you let the hate go and hold on the positive results in your life. I'm not telling you to suppress your emotions, I'm telling you to address them in a healthy way, and cultivating hate just because it's easier than confronting it and it gives you easy goals is deluding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:03 PM
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That is plain dumb. Misoginy is, after all, hate, and life is never better with hate. I'm not gonna start a discussion about if it's justified or not (because I think it's not, you think it is, and the whole thing is subjective and case-dependent) but anyone who advises in favor of misogyny (or any other hateful bias for that regard) knows little or nothing about happiness or psychology. You feel uncomfortable trusting women and think it is justified? Althought I disagree I'm pretty sure that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:20 PM
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Serious media doesn't report infidelities, am I misunderstanding this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:24 PM
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I want you to know you are a god buddy. I'm pretty sure people with knowledge in psychology/sociology and broad experience dealing with other people personal relationships would be pretty awesome to have here to keep down the bullshit levels and high the actual discussion. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:46 AM
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To be honest, all that stuff depends 100% on the context. There are things that you do because you feel that you want, and those very same things are done by other people out of fear and shame (a.k.a. insecurity) against the other options. It is also not always an improvement to go to the gym or getter a "better" job because of opportunity cost in other areas of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:36 AM
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Her attraction to him doesn't entitle her to decent treatment. Being a human being those, though. I feel like you are one of those pillers that try to theorycraft society and personal relationships without experiencing them in real life. It's gonna go as well as if you try to predict oceanic behaviour from a glass of water with salt. You can "not buy" whatever the fuck you want. There are psychologists and sociologists out there that study the reasons behind those very behaviours, and turns out …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:22 AM
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Not at all. That is actually the most common opinion you will find in a poll if you want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 01:11 AM
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I used to hate people because they were, you know, people. I spent many tormented nights worrying over if that made me a bad person, if that meant that I was never going to be able to share my life with people. Then I got a gf that was kinda like me and we kept hating of people and society together, we hated on people almost like a hobby, we embraced hating on people. Turns out that if you hate on people with enough expertise, you learn to understand the why's and how's of they jerkish behaviour…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:58 AM
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That's not how you are supposed to answer to accusations of making stuff up. If you haven't made it up just link a proof and call it a day. "I didn't" says nothing. Feminism is not only about equality, it is also about fighting for women rights, which is something you seem to despise, good for you. You have no knowledge on the matter and probably don't want to educate yourself on it either, so no matter what anyone says it is meaningless at this point, it's fine. The difference between a feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:32 AM
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I'm so glad I don't live in that world, god damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:15 AM
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Nobody says otherwise. It has nothing to do with feminismo you retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:44 PM
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That is an increíble exageration. Neither me or my friends have "gone thought that brainwashing". It's just a simplification of reality that you took instead of trying to experience it and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:16 PM
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What you calle "Blue pill" is what r/niceguys (a mostly BP sub) laughs at every day. That is not BP, that is just you being a doormat before RP told you to be a macho.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:56 AM
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That is so stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:32 AM
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That makes total sense since it's mostly true and her appeals are really subjective even for something as subjective as attraction is already.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:25 PM
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Dammn if you are kidding you are a god but since I don't know: He wasn't talking about hyperboles, but about the hyperbolic function (maths) instead, which is the curve used in the graph (which you will agree is a pretty bad way to convey a distirbution). Anyways I got a huge laugh from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 11:34 PM
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Because the reverse will ever happen right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:39 PM
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Because by my standards, she doesn't. Just to clarify, what is subjective if how much you value her but not how much she values herself (which is what at first I thought you meant), and your impression about that would be meaningless in that regard, since how much she values herself depends only on her. Just pointing this out because it is a common claim and what I thought you meant at first (women who sleepover don't value therselves) but in this second comment you make totally valid points tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:19 PM
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You literally dismissed everything I said and repeated your post again, word by word. I had read it. I get that you personally don't like Emma that much, fine, but she does transmit the attittude that I explained, which is something you don't need talking to do, and you can see very well in her photos, and it's something that you don't see on the IG girls you described. She looks like someone you would joke with, argue about films or whatever and still fuck her brains out, and that is attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:28 PM
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It's not all in the looks though. She has that "chick next door" and "sexy friend" vibe going for her, a lot of her attractiveness is in her attittude, which the average instagram attention whore lacks. Also, being closer to average appeals to people with a realistic mindset that may see her closer to their league while still really awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:54 PM
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The fact that you doubt that makes me worried about your view of women and relationships. I have cried in front of my (ex)gf a good chunk of times, and of course the results have always been "positive", as in, she helped me open up and feel comfortable and get through whatever had made me cry. It is not going to turn on someone, it is likely to turn someone off but if you are crying then you probably don't care about that at that point; but afterwards you are not less attractive than you were to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:43 PM
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Newbie question, what is the graph and where can I look it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:28 PM
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That is the part where you share a reason and we agree or disagree. I don't know many things that you could honestly call "amoral", specially involving social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:16 PM
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You mean you can't? Then how do you know when someone's opinion about dating, flirting and overall interacting with the other sex is veritable or not in this forum? Hahaha that was a good one bro, if that was the case a lot of the debating in this sub would be pointless comparation of unknown biases!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:06 PM
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Sounds like the Patriarchy is not an actual "thing". It's more of a cultural phenomenon What the heck did you expect it to be. Did you expect a physical entity or what? If women want men to respect them, they should stop objectifying themselves and be more assertive, interesting people. "themselves" LOL. It is society and mainstream media who objectify women and can't look up past their body. There are as many interesting women as interesting guys, it is only that you are more interested in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:56 PM
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Proofless bullshit of the year. Your dependance on mainstream information in order for something to be 'true' is very foolish. And none of that has happened. Because it is incredibly uncommon. It's only uncommon to hear about it in the mainstream. "What a fool, you don't believe everything I pull out my arse when presented with no proof and with reasons to think otherwise." Just noticed that when you say "mainstream" you mean real life. I've never heard a woman say her husband wont allow her to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:27 PM
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Violence against women because they are women. Althought I would really want to see where your numbers come from to really understand this scenario. Care to share source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:09 PM
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Those crimes don't affect men disproportionately they are more, but it is not disproportionate. And they clearly aren't inflicted because of the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:07 PM
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which is not purely defined by attractiveness, which is what you said 2 comments ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:04 PM
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Patriarchy or patriarchal society doesn't mean men. I am not villanaising men, I am villainising the patriarchy in our society. It is, yes, the patriarchal society who (aside from the obvious crimes against women) convinced the world that a man is worth as much as his collection of conquests (in this scheme of things women become prizes, some men become winners and other men become losers). Yeah a lot of men are depressed "because of women", the same goes on the other direction, again your perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 02:02 PM
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If SMV meant attractiveness they would call it attractiveness instead of Sexual Market Value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:10 AM
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Ryan Gosling who acts like a douche and has nothing intelligent to say Dammmn is that true? He looked like a total bro in "crazy, stupid love". :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:53 PM
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You won't find happiness in a relationship if you can't find happiness without it. If you don't manage to be happy with your success, hobbies, passions you should start off working on that. Other than that, as many people from both pills are telling you here, this is not a celibate/trp choice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:38 PM
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I'm sorry but I'm not really sure what is is the crazy tumblr extremism there. The only crazy thing is the guy/trans trying to boycott the law by "exploiting" it in the worst possible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:28 PM
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In the same vein than TRP is thinly disguised misogyny and circlejerk! Oh I shouldn't say that, I haven't actually read articles from experts terpers, and all my I know about it comes from the junkbox filter that is reddit memes and extremely biased subreddits. I'm sorry. Next time I promise to educate myself about the stuff I feel like dissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:18 PM
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Are you seriously suggesting that there is no difference between humans and animals? Because if you want I can proof that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:08 PM
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I am sorry but I can reply to your comment without directly talking to you, as a person, specially since this is a debate forum and we are here to argue opinions, not to directly talk to the people behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 10:38 PM
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I don't even know what is STEM but yeah I'm not gonna believe an institution is biased unless shown some proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 09:48 PM
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Let's talk about people who spout stupid shit. they have every statistic there is out there in their favor Specially the deathcount by gender-based violence. My first comment. Factually true. Nope. More men are killed by men than women killed by men. Nice try though. However, the reverse is also true; more women are protected/saved by men from violence than men protected/saved. Stupid shit #1: Nope Stupid shit #2: More men are killed by men than women killed by men (it may be true, but it is stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 09:33 PM
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I never said there was no gender based violence against men. What I said is that "men killing men" is not an example of gender based violence, and if you did read anything at all from that link you will notice that (shockingly) most victims of gender-based violence are actually women. Why the f. are you crusading so hard against me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:56 PM
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They may dislike other things, as individuals and all, but don't blame it on feminism.. I'm pretty sure you didn't ready my whole comment and instead skimmed through it, because at no point did I "extrapolate my opinion on all feminists everywhere". I did literally the opposite. I am well aware people have their own opinions, that is exactly what I was defending against the dude who said that feminists dislike logic, science, math, reason, computers, and many other bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:53 PM
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More men are killed by men than women killed by men. How is men killing men an example of gender-based violence if I may ask? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Gender+based+violence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:49 PM
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but I didn't mean "you" as a person, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking to the potential reader of this chain that would asociate the validness of YOUR spoon point with the validless of the ORIGINAL spoon point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:46 PM
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So what do murders have to do with this debate? Plenty of men get attacked by their female spouses, just because less men have died from being attacked by women doesn't mean that women are being abused more than men. Proofless bullshit of the year. Well I'm a man. If a woman attacked me I would most likely survive and defend myself. And I would hopefully be able to walk away after that because I would be afraid to take legal action against her because she is a woman and the odds would not be in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:19 PM
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There is only mass outrage when someone is to blame. Who are you gonna blame numbers 1) and 5), the girls that are studying more than the boys? Who are you gonna blame 4? The people to blame 3 are, again the people commiting the crimes (mostly men and you know it) and even then the cause is the patriarchal society that convinced us that women are delicate flowers, one of the many stigma that FEMINISTS want to get rid off. (Although it would be awesome if we dudes stopped being so damn violent ff…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:02 PM
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A lot of people (including women) know that court rooms favour women... All she has to do is say "I'll accuse you of rape". Unless a guy has some hard evidence of her saying that out loud or in a message he has nothing to stop her from psychologically abusing him. Proofless bullshit. Have you ever had a painful breakup with a woman? Some of them can switch off their feelings as if they had a magic button to press and become absolutely heartless with the things they say and do. Women are capable …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:54 PM
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You don't need a proof, it's a logical conclusion: -There are many and wild differences among every interpretation of feminism, let alone among the feminists as individuals. -The only thing you can be sure they have in common is that they are, indeed, feminists. -The only hate you can expect them to share is that one of the own feminism as an ideology, which is the patriarchy (people who want to make the world run on dickpower, as a joke) -Thus, the only thing "feminist types" all dislike is dic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:34 PM
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It's the direct implication of the "spoon and knife" metaphor, but I didn't mean "you" as a person, I meant "you" as in any possible reader that would side with that metaphor. As in "if you heat water, it boils".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:26 PM
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You didn't understand the "gender-based violence" part. By the way, next time you try to explain the world imagine that men are not the center of it and the cause and finality of everything happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:24 PM
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anti-male policies That's comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:22 PM
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Your "flawed stats" argument would make sense if there were any reason to imagine a REALLY large number of men being abused by women hidden for some reason, (taking into acount that in our society its mostly men who have the power to inflict the psychological abuse, i.e. money, status, etc.) I'm not making anything hard for anyone. This is what you people really don't understand. The real problem are not the abusers, those are the top of the iceberg, those are only what you can clearly see, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 04:08 PM
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Because everybody can close their eyes. But the light is right there up all over the world, feminist fight is making more and more achievements, psychology and sociology keep understanding better and better the Why and How of gender based violence, etc. etc. I am as much of a "scientific" as you would call a math student, but you are wrong where you think that psychological abuse can't be measured, because it can. There are really awesome tests that can signal with really high accuracy if there …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:38 PM
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Nobody calls assault to what is the next logical step. The only problem is people "skipping steps", specially when they do it by force.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:28 PM
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Too much basement dwelling in this sub. It seems like people here are trying to understand society and make theories about it without leaving their bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:25 PM
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Feminist men are mostly intellectual men whow don't lack empathy, included nerds, engineers (like a friend of mine), math students (like myself) and many other people. "Feminist types" only have dislikes against people who want to make the world run on dickpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 03:20 PM
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If you want to think that men have one purpose and women another then you are gonna be wrong in many things through your life bro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:49 PM
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they have every statistic there is out there in their favor Specially the deathcount by gender-based violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:40 PM
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You literally doubt anything EXCEPT the bullshit you believe. You have no other reason to eat your own shit than being what makes you feel better. You are not debating. You don't have a real refutal to anything at all other than "it doesn't matter what it is or how certain you are, there is a slight chance you are wrong and you can't proof you are 100% right". "Less women getting caught doing the abusing" that is so unbelievably dumb that I refuse to think you are serious. Let's apply that logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:36 PM
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And this is only my opinion: but I would say there is a very good chance that a lot of those suicides were due to what a woman did to them. Because you are an egotistical misogynist willing to twist anything you see to comfort your beliefs about the world, regardless of facts, statistics and scientific research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 02:30 PM
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go ahead and look up statistics. They won't mean much to me. Most men probably don't bother reporting to statistics offices when a woman is psychologically abusing them. They probably put up with it for the good times (like my dad does) or walk away and just say "That btch was crazy". Exactly like women do. But yeah you are just in denial and making a single ancedotal fact dictate your view of the world It's not about who's wrong and who's right here. Very few people are reading these comments e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 06:06 PM
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Sexism: the main reason why you haven't experienced psychological abuse is because you were born with a dick First of all it's sexist because you're implying all men are dormant predators. Second of all it's sexist because you're implying that all women are either stupid or have no willpower if they are the only ones who ever fall for it. Neither of these are true though, because men can be victims and women can be assertive people. It was surprising to find out that you're a man actually... dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:42 PM
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Your cancer analogy is kinda stupid too. We're all living in the same world under the same conditions. If we want to avoid cancer we can at least do our best to be healthy and avoid things that are known to cause cancer... Or do you have something sexist to say about that too? You can keep the chances of being a victim lower, but it can still happen to everyone. You keep putting blame in victims, you are disgusting. Tell me what have I said that is sexist if you please, I have nothing against wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:27 PM
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I am not trying to teach you anything because that is not my job. The information is right there in the Internet, 3 clicks and a google search from here. You want to feel superior to people? good for you buddy, but that's not the reality. And by the way, the main reason why you haven't experienced psychological abuse is because you were born with a dick, not because you are some strong willed jedi, you are just luckier in that aspect than the victims. I repeat, if you want to preserve your opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:14 PM
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The nature of psychological abuse is as close to an opinion as the existence of the force of gravity. You are free to live in denial I just hope that you stop trying to lecture people since you don't want to learn about the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:34 PM
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Hope you are aware that you are disagreeing with a whole scientific field, not with some internet rando.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 02:11 PM
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but if the situation was reversed with men staying at home and women having to work to support the family, feminists would complain that men are privileged because they can stay home and playing with the kids while women have to work and be the breadwinners. they exist just to complain and profit from their perceived status of victims. Yeah dude, that is just misogyny and you should really talk with more feminists in real life. About your "study", hope you noticed that the problem is that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 02:07 PM
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By the definition I can only assume that it's psychological. I.E. tricks of the mind. So if you realise it's happening and no longer want to be subjected to it... you can walk away. Like most things mind related, we make our own choices. Are you aware that there is a whole science, psychology, that you are dismissing as "tricks of the mind that you can simply shake off"? If they can realise it's happening, they can walk away... That is plain wrong, why do you keep talking about stuff you don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:51 PM
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What I'm telling you is that men have ruled over women forever. I'm pretty sure those hard labor workers could come back to their home and beat up their wives if they wanted to do since through history women have been men property, and that is fucked up. Men are still, on average, more powerful than women on almost every aspect of life, and in every hierarchy you can find the top full of men. incidentally women are less happy now that their partecipation to the workforce is normalized compared t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:45 PM
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No idea what is your point here. Psychological abuse is a thing and you can't simply "leave", that is a fact, you can strawman or hyperbole or whatever the heck you want, but you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:36 PM
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Im an hetero guy so I didn't really lost anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:35 PM
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That person doesn't exist and the only one to blame is whoever beat them down, if someone did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 06:09 PM
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Everybody can be psychologically abused. Society is just set up for women to accept the first symptoms as normal behaviour ("he just has strong character" "he is jealous because he loves me so much" "he is right, I don't need to hangout because this is a serious relationship") and for men to have it easier to do, but all those emasculating and castrating women that redpillers talk about, when real, are also psychogically abusive. You should stop talking about stuff you know nothing about, specia…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 05:28 PM
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Psychological abuse. LEAVE. The words of someone who has no idea about what psychological abuse means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 05:21 PM
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Psychological abuse. LEAVE. The words of someone who has no idea about what psychological abuse means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 05:20 PM
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Rights and responsabilities and privilege are tied all over the place. Men have more responsabilities because we have built a world where we are on the top. Every time a woman tries to carry on responsabilities in any particular field she has to fight unending piles of misogyny. Yes, men have the responsability and the privilege, it happened during slavery, it happened during feudal monarchies it happens every time some colective is above other/s in society, and it is simple to understand. You p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 05:14 PM
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There is a really catchy Spanish rap song about Charlie Sheen that comes to my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 04:39 PM
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I don't know when feminism stopped being a fight for equality but here on the internet I keep hearing really dumb stuff. Whatever the heck you saw labelled as "feminism" that is NOT fight for equality, it was not feminism bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 03:08 PM
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99/100 times you'd have better options in your life and reactions from your enviroment being a man over being a woman. Everywhere around the world men have it better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:57 PM
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To be honest PPD is pretty red, mostly because most "actual blue pillers" don't have anything to discuss about the matter on the internet and don't even know about these subs. Most "blue pillers" here are people from TBP subreddit, which is actually TRP satire/circlejerk, which means that most BP representators here are people whose only common trait is that they despise TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:58 PM
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"Be yourself" doesn't mean "vomit the whole content of your brain and you will get laid/love". The only way that advices makes sense is when it means "be the version of yourself that you like the most". Nobody is going to be happy decieving themselves into being something that they are not, but at the same time nobody is going to be happy by doing all the time the very first thing that comes to their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:49 PM
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Everybody needs to feel safe and protected sometimes and everybody needs to feel useful and powerful sometimes. The patriarchal society imposed roles on men and women, and that has lead to a lot of stressed men who feel like they can't keep up with the pressure and to the feminist movements to bring power and choice back to women. If every women really wanted a man to lead and comfort them feminism wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:43 PM
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There is only one kind of feminist. People who want equality and fight against the subyacent patriarchy in the society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:31 PM
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I know this is 5 months late but what you quoted is not a mistake, it is a perfect logical step.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 11:24 AM
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