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Purge week!80_20/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:41 PM
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Christain Rudder tested this. He took pictures from a social media site and ran it though the same system and got the same outcome. The people on okcupid aren't uglier then the population at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:10 PM
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<image> "study" with the 80/20 graph. (source) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4043335/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:44 AM
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okcupid when it took away profile text... and with it. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:41 AM
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<image> the "smoking gun" graph from the okcupid book. This proves women don't message ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:34 AM
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<image> ever better 80-20 graph from Christain Rudder presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:30 AM
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okcupid ratings back when looks and personality existed. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:29 AM
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okcupid when it used to rate by looks and personality <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:28 AM
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Sounds like you don't like science.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:26 AM
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It would literally be the most stupid choice you could make, it effects everything else in your life. Your health, your dating, your financial prospects, your friendships, your budget, your self-esteem, your self worth, your appearance, in person interactions, your safety, your furniture... everything. Because you so want to eat another twinkie? Why? Why would anyone make that choice conscientiously? If it were so easy to avoid why would anyone choose it? It's silly choice. That's why it can't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:24 AM
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The rise of the term "ghosting" happened because they couldn't remember the word "fading" as it used to be called when I was a teenager :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:11 AM
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Long before the rise of Trump I explained the rise of sexless incels to PPD bluepill and how it would effect everything. Because nothing changes the world like directionless young males.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:09 AM
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Why would a person chose to be fat? You could make the argument that a person loves food. But really that is a silly choice. Nobody loves food enough to have a detriment in every OTHER aspect of the rest of their life. So nobody chooses to overeat. So nobody chooses to be fat, so that means it really isn't their fault. That's the part nobody can explain to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:03 AM
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I always thought it was weird that a tall women acts like she deserves a conventionally attractive man. Being tall is a problem like being short or fat as a man, you shouldn't get prime grade A man if you're a 6'2"+ (187cm) woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:59 AM
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Well Happy Birthday for what it's worth. I was aware of the whole timing in pregnancy but we tried for like 2 years before it happened. So we were glad she was pregnant but I was always like I don't want a Dec baby because I knew the presents thing... and sure enough it happened anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:53 AM
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What are some good books on dating I should check out? My favorite book is Dataclysm by Christian Rudder, a book that really went into the okcupid data in longform. If you enjoyed the old blog posts I can't recommend it enough. It really clears up a lot of the myths/frequent questions about the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:44 AM
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I bought my 22 year old a computer for his Christmas Birthday present. I feel bad because he was born so close to Christmas he always gets a little screwed on presents. So I'm going to build it for him and give it to him next week.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:41 AM
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<image> what are women chasing? same data from okcupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:43 PM
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She owns the stand. I'm a former service worker so I think both were kinda escalating the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:20 PM
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I used to spend hundreds on clothes when I went clubbing in the 90s. It got me nowhere. I don't have the aesthetic that my 6'2" good looking friend did. So me dressed up = spend time alone in really expensive clothes for zero return.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:52 AM
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The dollar store items work just as well, You just fall into the "more expensive = better". That's why I read things like Consumer Reports and buy 99 cent shampoo. My woman boss always complimented me when I came into work on how good I smelt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:51 AM
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That and she cheated on me while I worked 3rd shift to pay for the things she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:47 AM
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600 is my rent. I paid a little more because I'm a half a block from the store and a major road.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:44 AM
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Exactly, you clearly do care. And that makes it a lie. While men legitimately don't care. With no exceptions. Some do but it waayyyy less than don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:38 AM
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because the 16 year old attractive girl doesn't stick around long, they learn they don't belong there and can do way better just hanging their hat on being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:36 AM
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Sure, then don't say something patiently untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:35 AM
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So being a woman :) lol but yeah that's the thing, there is so much unsaid in "I want a guy who takes care of himself". It's silly because it comes with so many caveats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:34 AM
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When I did leave the house and was married, I spent my share of money, but it was never enough. There was always something more and better she had to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:32 AM
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50/73 when I google my zip code.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:30 AM
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Read, write, cheap things. Steam sales for video games. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:25 AM
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I live in the 2nd largest city in the state, in the midwest. It isn't a big city either for being the 2nd largest. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:24 AM
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I'm not good looking enough to ever look stylish anyway, so you would not pick me regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:23 AM
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If you spend right, these things are really rare. I told you I lived this way for 20 years. I can make up the money if I need it, but your talking a once a year expense if you do it right, You can even go multiple years if you pay your cards right. That's the thing, somebody goes to the dealer and spends 6k on auto repairs, when the independent guy down the street does it for 2k. People just don't know how to be frugal. My grandmother grew up during the depression and taught me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:21 AM
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Lie. I'm self sufficient. You wouldn't be interested in me because there would be something you had to buy that I would deem ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:17 AM
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That's the thing, women don't live like I do. They can't comprehend spend a day at the library rather than going out for expensive drinks. They can't live that minimalist existence. No drinks, no drugs, no smoking, I used about a half of a tank of gas this past month on my paid off car. That's the catch, they expect a lifestyle, and it isn't what the guy does is the problem, its their number in which they seem worthy that a lot of men don't even have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:14 AM
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I live a stress free life, but women don't care, they would rather level the rat race and spend 6k on 2 day vacations :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:10 AM
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Credit cards, and someone who knows how to live below their means easily to pay it off. That's the thing, I value my time more than any silly job that is going to run my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:08 AM
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I would like to say the reverse isn't true, a man will support a women who works at McDonalds for 12k a year. Probably even less than that. Most don't even have to work. We have a name for women like this, trophy wives. There is always a hidden threshold which she expects you to make more than. So you should never say, "I don't care how much money he makes (you do), as long as he can support himself (at this arbitrary deemed number that I deem worthy that I have have pulled out of my ass.) That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:03 AM
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Not even remotely true. Stop talking if you don't know origins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:13 AM
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The funny thing is I started arguing about the implications of this on reddit in 2011. I spent my 30s and my 40s trying to overcome 80-20 and I am still feeling the effects personally. To some people its just a blog post, to others, its literally our dating lives for the past 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:37 PM
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Tinder might do that now, but when it was new did they do that then? I doubt in 2014 they were interfering with the data that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:54 PM
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This is why you argue in bad faith, you can't defend your position vs someone who can defend theirs. This is why you've constantly been losing ground in this argument over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:37 PM
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Listen, in order to fuck someone, you probably have to date them first. Whatever planet you live on can argue with itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:30 PM
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Dataclysm, Christain Rudder
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:29 PM
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how do you message someone on Tinder you don't like? Tinder: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. btw: The Tinder data proves that women don't like ugly men because you can't message someone you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:22 PM
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https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/international/london-book-fair/article/51546-london-book-fair-2012-crown-nabs-book-by-okcupid-co-founder-in-rumored-7-fig-deal.html
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:20 PM
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The book Dataclysm was published in 2014. It's direct data from the guy who has control over it since the beginning. orignal blog post from 2009: https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyourinbox.html
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:18 PM
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can't fuck who you don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:15 PM
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Your source is wrong then because I've literally been writing about this topic since like 2011. Christain Rudder put it on a blog and was offered a 7 figure book deal to write about okcupid's data for a book published in 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:14 PM
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It was data from the okcupid site, which the author of the blog was paid 7 figures to write about the data. The book came out in 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:09 PM
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|Men on apps like Tinder have a tendency to swipe on everyone, or many many women. When they are forced to make actual decisions (like women are), their selection becomes much more similar to women’s. That's not even remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:08 PM
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Big data, Tinder, match and okcupid had 57 million accounts, this data isn't from 100 college students in a classroom somewhere. This is why the data is so robust and hard to make it go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:07 PM
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Because that's what men are told to do, how often are men told to take their shot and "you miss every shot you don't take!" etc. Men are completely delusional because they are told to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:04 PM
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It wasn't a marketing report, it was direct data from the okcupid founder and Harvard math graduate Christian Rudder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:03 PM
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The okcupid data was directly based off of 11 million accounts on okcupid at the time, and the author saw the data f4rom match and tinder had the same pattern. Tinder, okcupid, and match had the data of half the single people in the United States, some 57 million people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:01 PM
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Not true. “Where Have All the Good Men Gone?” Gendered Interactions in Online Dating Figure 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:58 PM
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Why does this data hang around so much? Why is it pushed so hard? Think about it. okcupid and match.com are two of the oldest dating sites on the internet. This isn't 50 WEIRD college students in a lab somewhere. This is men and women in their homes, out and about, comfortable, showing you how they really behave. The original subtitle of Dataclysm is: Who We Are (When We Think No One's Looking). Okcupid has redesigned several times. They used to rate by looks and personality. Then it was simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:53 PM
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80-20 FAQ (Version .003) That okcupid graph is always peddled around by red pill and blackpill types. What the dilly yo? The okcupid blog from 2009 first published the infamous 80-20 graph. The version below is from the okcupid book "Dataclysm" in 2014 by okcupid founder and Harvard math graduate Christian Rudder. Christian Rudder was also the author of the original 2009 post. Christian Rudder was paid 7 figures, not bad for a first time author. The study... It's not and never has been a study. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:52 PM
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It's from 2009... that's a repost to medium. It was originally an okcupid blog post on their own site.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:44 PM
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80-20 FAQ (Version .003) <image> That okcupid graph is always peddled around by red pill and blackpill types. What the dilly yo? The okcupid blog from 2009 first published the infamous 80-20 graph. The version below is from the okcupid book "Dataclysm" in 2014 by okcupid founder and Harvard math graduate Christian Rudder. Christian Rudder was also the author of the original 2009 post. Christian Rudder was paid 7 figures, not bad for a first time author. The study... It's not and never has been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:13 AM
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In fact, women use their buying power and influence to drive 70 to 80 percent of consumer purchasing. According to a recent study, 95% of women will be the family's primary financial decision maker at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:38 AM
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For as much as the data is talked about, everyone should have the blog and the book handy because it is the largest dataset on dating in existence. or you know you could google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:33 AM
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Buy the book, I did. That's the thing, nobody really cares what the truth is. It's the perception of the truth that everyone cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:26 AM
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In the top 5 porn searches for men and women are "teen". Big data gives away all our little secrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:23 AM
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I love watching mental gymnastics in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:18 AM
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According to millions of people who were on okcupid it's "normal". Which was the whole point of my posting. Million upon millions of men on okcupid did the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:13 AM
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Or they lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:09 AM
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Yeah, let shame him while the number one thing people search for on porn sites is stepsister/stepbrother porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:08 AM
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No you just do it through dating sites that track what you do and not what you say you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:00 AM
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It's from the okcupid book. Go buy the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:59 PM
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A 50 year old man makes a post looking for an 18 year old girl to sleep with. An argument ensues over whether or not this is acceptable behavior <image> Just a reminder that this graph exists and all those virtue signaling men who say they would never do such a thing are lying through their teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:43 PM
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People are liars. You can absolutely slower your standards if you choose to. What do you think every unattractive person does?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:45 AM
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I'm not a red pill goober, but anyway, you didn't really tell me how. I look forward to your explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:22 PM
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Scam. Stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:53 AM
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Just had a woman touch my pee pee. Too bad it was an ultrasound. Pretty humiliating because I have ED and I'm in the negative boner range. Yay. Edit: I don't have cancer yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:51 AM
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Not true. ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:17 PM
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Alternate source here. So now you can't say you don't ever see one. ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:24 PM
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❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:04 AM
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I've had women stop completely after I sent them pictures... like three times... once here on reddit even.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:19 AM
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If what you said was true, the Tinder data would look much different because you can't even message someone who you didn't "like". See my original post for the Tinder statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:11 AM
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Christian Rudder is a Harvard mathematics graduate, he know how to convert the data from 1/5 to 0/5. You're just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:01 AM
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If you say this is true, why does this graph exist? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:28 AM
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Profiles don't matter. That's why. Tinder picture swiping became popular instead of okcupid's profile driven site. And they used photos from a social media site to disprove the whole "takes bad pictures" theory. Everyone takes bad pictures. See my FAQ post picture for what he did with the social media pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:24 AM
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​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:20 AM
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> Well there was also an option to skip rating at all, which resulted in a default score of 0. The authors of the blog post decided to treat these zeros as "least attractive". Source? Sounds like conjecture. That could have easily just not counted skips. That would make more sense. > Also, the okcupid screen asked users to rate the profile, not the person's attractiveness. You can say the distinction is nitpicky, but posing the question that way could certainly influence answers. Originally it r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:20 AM
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This is from the okcupid book Dataclysm (2014). <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:19 PM
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Men in one study I found, on average, rated their attractiveness as just 5.9 on a scale of 1 to 10. (source) I'd have to research more, but as you see I think men as a whole are more realistic of the average man then women are. But if you watch the video, you can see how political the voting gets when women rate other women and men rate other men. I think it's pretty ridiculous even if it's unconscious, to include other women in that rating. It's silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:05 AM
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​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:57 PM
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IT'S NOT A STUDY... pickin' on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:48 PM
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Then it gets all political like this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-YcBYUfgtc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:45 PM
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That's a problem. Ask a man, who is dead center of attractiveness, a 50 percentile man, and he'll look at all men, and say, "well I am in the mid level of attractiveness, there are 50 percent of men above me in attractiveness and 50 percent of men below me in attractiveness, so I am a objective 5 out of 10." Where we know women would rate a 50 percentile man, a 3 out of 10 by the graph above. So women rate this man a 3 out of 10 and the man rates himself a 5 out of 10, that's why you get the "me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:43 PM
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80-20 FAQ (Version .001) That okcupid graph is always peddled around by red pill and blackpill types. What the dilly yo? The okcupid blog from 2009 first published the infamous 80-20 graph. The version below is from the okcupid book "Dataclysm" in 2014 by okcupid founder and Harvard math graduate Christian Rudder. Christian Rudder was also the author of the original 2009 post. The study... It's not and never has been a study. It's direct data from the site. How many people yo? Half the single pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:52 AM
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My idea was a mathematically fair dating app and it would berate you if you tried to reach higher. ​ Oh you are a 3 out of 10 and you want to date a 7 out of 10? Better get those pints of ice cream ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:16 PM
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the exaggeration is the joke, how do I comedy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:43 AM
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What people say on dating sites = What they mean. You should be ambitious = You should have a high paying job Who has goals and aspirations = be on the way to a high paying job I'm such a nerd = Doesn't date nerds I'm such a dork = Doesn't date dorks Likes being active = No fattys be energetic = No fattys I mean it comfortable with themselves.= be attractive be confident = be attractive Kindness, smiles, and big laughs = be Prince Charming Be open minded = I'm dating 5 people and sleeping with 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:20 AM
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After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:46 AM
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guess what? every guy you ever met thought that about you before they talked to you, including your boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:25 PM
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Nobody ever seem interested, not even remotely. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:22 PM
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And Tinder having the exact same data pattern (actually it's a bit worse) where none of the criticisms apply?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:10 PM
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Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists – 97 percent – agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Most of the leading science organizations around the world have issued public statements expressing this, including international and U.S. science academies, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and a whole host of reputable scientific bodies around the world. https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:37 PM
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NHS (uk's health system) took 200,000 obese people and tracked them for 9 years. Results. During a maximum of 9 years’ follow-up, 1283 men and 2245 women attained normal body weight. In simple obesity (body mass index = 30.0–34.9 kg/m2), the annual probability of attaining normal weight was 1 in 210 for men and 1 in 124 for women, increasing to 1 in 1290 for men and 1 in 677 for women with morbid obesity (body mass index = 40.0–44.9 kg/m2). The annual probability of achieving a 5% weight reducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:03 PM
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They tested that too. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:49 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnPWJOJYVKc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:05 PM
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Some science on obesity. Obviously it is a big part of looks. Most people's science education about obesity is very old and outdated. Reddit will mash Calories In vs Calories out. Say you're weak. People overestimate willpower and underplay things out of your control like genetics. Secrets of the Eatling Lab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uELVWHeFWk Dr Tracy Mann, director of the Eating Lab at the University of Minnesota. Dr. Traci Mann, that has traditionally focused on the self-control of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:55 PM
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You are now tagged as "MATT DAMON"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:18 PM
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I watched troops cross the border live on TV that day. It was really the first "live war".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:23 PM
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Because people on social media weren't the same people on okcupid? If the people weren't weird lonely people, they would have gotten different scores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:18 PM
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Like bro shut up your day was when the US invaded Iraq you don't know shit bruv 1991? I remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:15 PM
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Before tinder, online dating was seen as this niche corner of the internet where only the weird lonely people go to try and find a date because they can’t find one in real life. This was never true. They tested it by taking pictures off of social media and running it through okcupid. They got the same results. It's a myth that only ugly people online date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:11 PM
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When I first started arguing on reddit, I was 34. Now I'm 47. Can I get grandfathered in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:08 PM
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it's not a poll. its how they rated profiles of individuals before the whole swipe based apps took over on okcupid. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:50 PM
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I was once rejected by a woman who had 6 kids, including two sets of twins. All under 8. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:40 AM
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The first top gun is a "male movie", but it was also the highest grossing movie of 1986. So some women had to have liked it. I really enjoyed the chemistry of Tom Cruise and Kelly Mcgillis. My favorite movie is Contact with Jody Foster (1998).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:35 AM
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I was the guy who knew ashleymadison was a scam from the start. Nobody has to recruit males to dating sites. There was no need to advertise to them. Boy I been doing this for a lot longer and I remember the history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:40 PM
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​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:21 PM
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Yep, if you read the book, he then shows heatmap graphs like this: ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:21 PM
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Yeah I wonder why no research has been done since 2020. It's impossible to know why. Let's all pretend that nothing happened in that time to fuck up all research in the past oh 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:15 PM
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​ <image> old okcupid data. back when they let you rate looks and personality. so just say personality instead and we'll know you mean looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:13 PM
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people like the okcupid founders weren't all in on just screwing over users to make money. That's why they released the data. They didn't know the monster they were letting out of the box. The problem is the data and what it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:01 PM
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Sure, show me an exact breakdown of male users and female users on any dating site. I'll wait. None of dating sites released this data. Ever. All you ancillary data is just that ancillary. Dating sites are wired tight to not release this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:40 PM
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It's from the book Dataclysm, by Harvard math graduate, okcupid founder, Christian Rudder published in 2014
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:53 PM
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Whenever people release data. There is a good reason they hide the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:44 PM
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sorry quoting myself. Tinder in 2014, had 30 million active accounts, it took them two years to double what okcupid did in 10. Tinder was founded in 2012. okcupid had about 15 million accounts founded 2004.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:43 PM
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it's not a study, it's data. yep same data, women born on 3rd base: from the okcupid book in 2014: ​ <image> See how they hid the data in your graphs? They didn't do it by percentile in your graphs. They ignored the massive advantage that women had by the way women rate men, and cheer the fact that they only reach out a little further, then their already massive advantage. Men were told by blue pill advice to reach out to their ideal, and they did. And they also reached out to everyone else. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:39 PM
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That's why the data on women's perferences are so robust. 2004- okcupid invented has quizzes, questions, full profiles, allows you to rate by looks and personality 2004 match- does the same thing as okcupid but has profile driven and a more serious attitude. 2008- okcupid start publishing data about users 2009- famous okcupid graph is first published 2010- okcupid drops looks and personality rating when it's revealed that it's the same data. goes to a 5 star system <image> 2012- Tinder comes alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:31 PM
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Women abandoned the profile driven 2012 online dating leader okcupid, for a vapid swipe system driven Tinder. They had the prefect blue pill website that had thousands of questions, full and complete profiles all sortable by different attributes and they **ABANDONED IT IN RECORD NUMBERS FOR PICTURE HEAVY NO PROFILE TINDER.*\*
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:17 PM
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The data is the same for okcupid and Tinder. okcupid also tested an outside group of photos from social media and got the same results as okcupid's results. So it's a myth that online people are uglier then "real people".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:15 PM
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Tinder, okcupid, match.com, datehookup.com , all have the exact same 80-20 pattern. So if you are going to say Tinder is a "hookup app" then you have to say the same about okcupid and match.com. The have the same data. So they are all hookup apps, or they all aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:11 PM
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What really fucks you up is when you put in Chad's picture into your own profile. Suddenly you're much more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:09 PM
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4000 vs half the single people in the United States, 30+ million. (the famous okcupid graph) ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:07 PM
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Tinder in 2014, had 30 million active accounts, it took them two years to double what okcupid did in 10. Tinder was founded in 2012. That's why okcupid changed, because people abandoned okcupid for Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:01 PM
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Tinder in 2014, had 30 million active accounts, it took them two years to double what okcupid did in 10. Tinder was founded in 2012. That's why okcupid changed, because people abandoned okcupid for Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:00 PM
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My ex and I worked at the same place. Most people thought we were brother and sister. So I guess you can say we were looksmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:12 AM
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The problem is that women get on apps, load up on dates and then disable their profile. Days at most. Men on the other hand, usually have to say on apps for months to get the same amount of attention a woman get in 10 minutes. So he has to stay on longer and usually languishes on there for a longer period of time. So Becky get 4 dates lined up for the next two weeks, and shuts down her profile, it took her 3 days of texting to do this. She disabled her profile because she got what she wants. Joh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:55 AM
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How to make a "blue pill" experiment. Make a profile with any kind of shit you want in it. Nerdy geeky stuff. Be a fireman. Be a sports star. Mention good things, mention bad things. Anything really. Do and A/B comparison with your photos and a hot guys photos. It becomes clear people don't care what you write on profile, it's your picture that drives all your messages and matches. It's a simple experiment nearly every man has done, he is taken his "non critiqued profile" put a nice looking guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:01 AM
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Women abandoned the profile driven 2012 online dating leader okcupid, for a vapid swipe system driven Tinder. ​ They had the prefect blue pill website that had thousands of questions, full and complete profiles all sortable by different attributes and they **ABANDONED IT IN RECORD NUMBERS FOR PICTURE HEAVY NO PROFILE TINDER.*\*
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:52 AM
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okcupid famously released a lot of its data, but even they didn't release that data...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:39 PM
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Why wouldn't they release the data at all? There is one reason, it makes it look bad for the male customer base. And that's why all dating sites don't release their data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:58 PM
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Dateline story from a million years ago showing how important height is in dating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbG05ePWRQE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:34 PM
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" Women, on the other hand, prefer men who are taller than themselves, and they have a particularly strong aversion to shorter men. For example, our estimates imply that compared to a man who is five inches taller than a woman and earns $ 50,000 per year, a man who is five inches shorter than a woman would need to earn slightly more than half a million dollars per year to make up for his shortcoming. " " Women like tall men (Figure 5.4). Men in the 6’3 - 6’4 range, for example, receive 65% more …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:25 PM
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I was born in the 70s. I'm more of the Nintendo generation than a boomer.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 10:09 PM
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Just world fallacy is a nutshell. When the world explicit shows it's unfair to individuals, those individuals not subjected to it pretend that the world is fair in order to keep their worldview from breaking down. I succeed because I earned it and no evidence to the contrary will change my mind and even with overwhelming evidence, I will just pretend the world is fair in order to keep my own sanity in check. edit: lol I wrote this before I read the below post also pointing out the Just World Fal…
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 05:38 AM
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The most realistic part is Phoebus is part of the group that is most actively oppressing her people. So he commands the very people hers are fighting against. Sure, I slaughtered, tortured, arrested your people, but did you see my jawline? He's also a middle manager. He's also likely twice her age. The showtunes singing Quasimodo with a heart of gold, a master artisan, and a literal roof jumping superhero isn't good enough because he is ugly. My Chad friend saw it with his girlfriend in the thea…
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 05:05 AM
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I was an American football player. The locker room taught me more than my parents ever did.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 04:02 PM
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Caution goes out the window when chad is involved though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:54 PM
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because that's what people say when I point out the explosion. Ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:50 PM
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No, that was my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:35 AM
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I just go where the science takes me. It's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:30 AM
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Harsh truth: Twins reared apart studies show weight is up to 80 percent heritable. Height is 90 percent. Most don't believe this and are very outdated in their obesity science. So blaming someone for being fat, is almost equal to blaming them for being short. A NHS (the UK health system) tracked over 100k fat people for 30 years and found few actually lost weight (10 percent bmi) in that time period. Under 1%. So telling a fat person they can change, is like telling a poor person you can get ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:13 AM
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Lol... you think its about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:46 AM
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40 percent of pregnancies are single women. unmarried women. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:43 AM
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He usually doesn't even know the game, the rules, or the players involved. To expect him to navigate with no guidance is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:42 AM
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I don't need your help, thanks. I luckily broke out at the age of 22, 25 years ago. Help an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:36 AM
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If people didn't treat him like shit, he wouldn't be depressed, ugly with issues. They are made by society as children. They don't start out depressed and with issues. The way they are treated create those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:34 AM
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You want graphs? https://www.cdc.gov/std/statistics/2021/figures/F_PSSYPHCSHX-large.png?_=22770 What exactly are you trying to prove? That the CDC is lying to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:29 AM
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No, I'm just interested in the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:24 AM
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lol I could say the same thing about you. Only those who see the mountain of evidence behind my position is increasing, not decreasing are objective. I have not made any authoritative claim, I just post the evidence backing my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:22 AM
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Read/listen to the article I posted? Sources. It fits theory not the other way around. If what other people said were true, bluepill principals, the data would look different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:18 AM
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I made no such claim, you have me confused with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:16 AM
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Yep every argument I backup with evidence that has only been expanded in recent years. Start from the very first post and work your way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:12 AM
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Literally posting the quote from CDC data and saying I have no data.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:11 AM
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I was making the same argument 6 years ago and the ever expanding evidence of my position has increased, not decreased. People keep contorting themselves into all kinds of positions to explain it away. I want to be wrong. I really do, but history has only continued to prove me right again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:08 AM
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Sure, check my 6 year post history of posting evidence and backing up everything I've ever said with evidence. You are on the losing end of the argument by data AND history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:05 AM
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pot meet kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:02 AM
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Enjoy your STDs and dating the same guy groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:01 AM
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Yes, so it is exactly what people have been saying for years, it's nice to be proven right by when new data comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:59 AM
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They sleep with the same men, and they compare notes that they are sleeping with the same men, and then they pick some other men who also happen to be the same guys who happen to be with the same men. Maybe you should date incels then. You know people who aren't the same guys you keep dating in cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:56 AM
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It's just one piece of the pie. I also post data from dating apps that show women are only interested in the same group of men, you know, with the sample size of half the single people in the United States. This is just the cherry on top to further prove what is happening. You can put your head in the sand and say it isn't happening, or you can follow what all the pieces of data say and point to one direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:54 AM
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Yeah, its only with history and ever increasing data that shows an argument going in one direction. I keep waiting for it to reverse, but the data conclusively points one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:50 AM
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Then why is it increasing highest among pregnant women? By your incorrect observations it should be the rise of Grindr increasing higher... but it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:49 PM
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Considering I've seen the patterns and have only been proven right by history and an ever increasing mountain of data, I'll take the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:34 PM
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Be sure to go back into my 6th year history on PPD. I've been proven to be right since I first started arguing on reddit in 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:31 PM
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So it just isn't physical evidence, Women themselves have been reporting on themselves: >Are We Dating The Same Guy? ', a Facebook group where women who date men can verify if their male partners are seeing other people and warn each other of glaring "red flags". So it's observed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:23 PM
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Well to steal the quote from the misleading site, STD statistics aren't self-reported and don't lie. > The first thing to note is that the probability of contracting an STD rises exponentially the more sex partners that are involved in the network. aka Chad banging is increasing the STD cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:20 PM
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>Also, no other data sources i.e. speed dating studies replicate this OKC result. They all show much closer means and distributions. Bullshit. Speed dating is a much smaller sample size. They are in the hundreds at most. Online dating sample size is in the millions. The data is the same for match.com, hinge, tinder, datehookup.com. Over 30 million people, half the single people in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:48 PM
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Lol, the narrative hasn't been debunked by anything. Your source ignores several criticisms. Ignoring the fact that women's STD rates **are exploding.*\* The source incorrectly states that it hasn't. > New CDC data shows a surge of sexually transmitted infections in the U.S. in recent years. The most significant rise is in syphilis and congenital syphilis, which occurs when mothers pass on the infection to their babies during pregnancy. Ignores the fact that women load up on all the dates, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:37 PM
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She still looks good, 25 years later. She's a married lesbian former stripper. I still laugh about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:06 AM
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from the okcupid book: "same pattern on every dating site they've seen Tinder and match.com..." ​ https://i.imgur.com/uAOsyLn.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:28 AM
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Whose more shallow? This is from the same data, you tell me. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*VL51ARmLiM_e19oYQGQmsg.png
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:27 AM
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sigh incorrect. It was based on okcupid's full profiles and the developer/author of the blogpost saw Tinder and match.com with the same pattern... ​ it wasn't just on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 06:25 AM
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I was told I was crazy for predicting the decline on reddit in 2012...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:33 PM
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Sometimes that is how life works. This is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:31 PM
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The link to the preprint is in the blog post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:08 PM
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Where did he identify as incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:06 PM
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Elliot Rodger wasn't really incel. He kinda hated them. He never really used the term. Its others that identified him as incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 04:01 PM
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I think that area needs more study beyond self-reported studies of what women say are important to them. Many kind men I know are dateless. But that's just more 46 years of experience in life talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:59 PM
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I always wanted to do an incel halloween costume. Put a shower in a backpack with a tube to a water source. So I can shower while walking around. I can spray women to get their attention. Tape deodorant bars to the underside of my armpts and around my waist. Spray incessant amount of cologne. Wear all kinds of toiletries, shavers, etc.. Women shouldn't vote tshirt. Or maybe I love women tshirt. half beard half haircut
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:56 PM
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I see more fats girl with thin guys then the other way around. Especially bigger taller women. /fat guy who would date fat girls but gets little attention from them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:42 PM
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Incel myth: Incels are incels because they have too high standards. Compared to non-incel single men, they have a lower self-perceived mate value and lower mate standards. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwin-does-dating/202304/inside-the-mating-psychology-of-involuntary-celibates
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:38 PM
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Incel myth: Compared to non-incel single men, they have a lower self-perceived mate value and lower mate standards. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwin-does-dating/202304/inside-the-mating-psychology-of-involuntary-celibates
/r/MensRights16/09/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah well I see tons of talent in Susan Boyle too. Looks are important when you are an entertainer., probably just as much as singing ability. ​ There are a lot of basketball players who might have the talent, but got overlooked because they aren't tall. You can't teach size, and you really can't teach being pretty either. You can do a littler, but when you're talking top of the top you need more than just a great voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:33 PM
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being a top .001 percenter really screws with your head. You succeed and your life turns into a just world fallacy of explanations of why its happened to you. Probably don't hurt she's a thin blonde. Succeeding despite the odds leads to conspiratorial thinking. That's why crazy rich go off the deep end a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:12 PM
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9/11 denials, Jews rule the world, qanon, "Greys"... life is full of conspiracy nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:06 PM
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Everyone in the world has only 12 "different" kinds of days out of 8 billion on the planet? It doesn't make mathematical sense, let along just basic 6th grade science. ​ Neil degrasse Tyson talks about debunking astrology by using large audiences of hundreds of people. You pick one at random read aloud who is having that day without telling them which one is theirs. Instead of it being only 1/12th of the audience people will recognize that their day is going that way so 2/3rds will put up their …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:02 PM
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ratio is just because women take a few days to line up all the dates they can handle. once they line up all the dates, why would they hang around on the app? they disable their profile. while guys languish on the app and don't disable the app. even the guys who get a decent amount of dates just date around and stay on the app. ​ so women get off the app and men stay on it, so that's why the ratio is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:43 AM
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fishing... shirtless...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:39 AM
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Okcupid tried that, it failed. See the book Dataclysm for the story. It was called "Crazy Blind Date".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:50 AM
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SOme guy said the government has aliens and alien tech. So he pulled out a phaser and stunned everyone. ​ Or he just said it and proved it by showing absolutely nothing and proving nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:52 AM
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https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1\*VL51ARmLiM\_e19oYQGQmsg.png Yet no women message men of their equals. They only message Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:24 PM
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https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*VL51ARmLiM_e19oYQGQmsg.png This is a normalized graph to show women are no different than men. Oh wait, they only want messages from Chad and show the part of the graph where all messages to women are ignored except for the tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:22 PM
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You should read the book, it clears up a lot of questions and it isn't really on your side. The whole book is about the data and how it was collected and interpreted. I've corrected hundreds of people on this subject but the same questions endure because people don't read the book. It clarifies a lot about all the questions you have. That is why I post an excerpt from the book with the graph because people keep making the same mistakes from it. The assume the blog post is the final word on the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:58 AM
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Like I said, you don't understand. You don't understand the culture. You don't understand the reasons why they say what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:14 PM
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You don't understand what they are talking about. The do that stuff to gatekeep people like you away. As someone who grew up bullied and teased as a child your cries of women didn't do that fall on really deaf ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:02 PM
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Because women had abhorrent views about them first which led to them having abhorrent views about women. They are the victims of bullying first then they develop into stunted individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:36 PM
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I knew it was a scam site because they only advertised to men. The bots were run by Ashley Madison, not an outside group. When people usually say bots on dating sites, they usually mean not run by the dating sites themselves, but advertising some outside venture and not endorsed by the site it's on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:35 PM
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Yeah because the same guy who did all the blog posts tested to see if people cared about profiles. He tested this by comparing ratings of people with and without profile text. I guess you know how it turned out. You're making inferences without any backup, without evidence. Half the stuff you said has been discussed to death here and is answered in the okcupid book Datalcysm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:32 PM
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I saw that graph on the okcupid forum in 2008 and I've been discussing it ever since, hence the name too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:37 PM
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If being fat was choice why would anyone choose it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:32 PM
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The data was pulled from okcupid from 2004 until the book was published in 2014 dataclysm. It was pulled by Harvard mathematics graduate and okcupid founder Christian rudder. When the data was pulled the male to female ratio was about 60:40. Not true, of you read the book and exact quote is "people never message people they rate poorly"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:29 PM
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Actually they did back in the day. Like this actual published study reproduces the famous graph. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:25 PM
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It was in the okcupid book in 2014. And a lot of the questions answered were discussed in the book too. People get everything wrong about the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:23 PM
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Ashley Madison was hacked and had some 5k active women users and 2 million male members. It's a scam site first and formost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:21 PM
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That's bullshit, because tinder has no such thing and you can only message other people you match with. So if what you said was true the statistics on tinder would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:19 PM
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They don't and it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:17 PM
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Nobody messages people they rate poorly. That's a quote from the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:17 PM
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fds my favorite part of your interview with the okcupid representative is when she said the data changed for the 80-20 graph. You're gonna let that one fly by without proving all l the incels wrong by obtaining such a chart on how all the women of okcupid now are suddenly swiping right on men? I couldn't think of a better marketing ploy. You will get dates on okcupid (as long as you aren't right wing republican! I'm not and never have been) I expect to no data to ever surface and she just straig…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:55 PM
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I've seen the data site numbers on okcupid, entire countries don't have as many people on them as most states do on okcupid. ​ It fair to say that the 80-20 is a US thing until I've seen different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:43 PM
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Because you're a woman and you don't see people in the reality in which they currently live. Your biases show you 80-20 is a real thing, so of course you'd see ugly guys with better looking women, that's exactly what 80-20 says you should see. ​ The problem is men rate women on a bell curve and women rate men on much harsher curve. So you being a woman what else would you expect to see? The problem is the math doesn't work out like that. A 5/10 (50 percentile) middle of attractiveness man doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:29 PM
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​ On the recent podcast from fds, they just had an okcupid representative and she just totally lied and said the data was different. I'd challenge okcupid to release that data then, thanks much. Something they will never do. Once it's out of the founders of okcupid's hands into a corporation it was lost forever. She went into all this big long explanation into making it the guys fault "Guys need help." Even though she says she saw her own friends doing the looking at one photo and left swiping b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:24 PM
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How do you know he didn't change everything to match you right before he sent you a message like he did for everyone he messaged before you? Men would never do that....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:26 PM
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It's not a study, it's just data... The data was initially released in 2009 but it's a compilation of data that goes back to 2004. Every dating site that has released it's data shows the same thing if not worse. It literally based off of 75 million ratings over 15 year period. Okcupid was largely a profile driven site, tinder rose to power and made the data look even shallower for women. No dating site has ever released any data that has contradicted the okcupid data. Okcupid founder wrote a who…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:20 PM
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All you have to do is listen to the women on this thread they will explicitly tell you how outdated and irrelevant it is while exposing the exact same sentiment as the data. Thus replicating it right here for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:14 PM
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I've never seen someone say sex wasn't a need go without it for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:19 AM
2

astrology? bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:05 AM
3

at least you get opportunities, I haven't had a date in 4 years and I'm not exactly picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 03:03 AM
1

most black pill film ever... from DISNEY!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:17 PM
1

I did that too. Divorced 14 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:24 AM
1

Grandma was too busy to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:39 PM
1

“Well, a sense of overriding futility is a vital part of the process. Embrace it.” - Dr. Friedlander.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:54 PM
2

I like the goat song. Trouble trouble trouble aaahghhhhhhghhhhh And the hunger games song.... Safe and soundddddd....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:48 PM
3

How to tell if you are looksmatched with your so. You are thought to be brother and sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:58 PM
1

Not even remotely true. The problem is women can do better so therefore they don't wanna.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:54 PM
1

So when people say 80-20 is just a fictitious imagination and not reality I should link them this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:37 PM
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I've actually had the reverse, a woman who wasn't a woman because she didn't agree with the groupthink of women when she got older. It was an "obvious" man account over 10 years old with recent posting history. Like this was the most dedicated troll in history. It blew my mind how obtuse people were.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:58 AM
3

I'm 45, I still waiting for it to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:04 AM
1

You literally just bullied "loner pscyhos" who just read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:28 AM
1

They aren't loving when they go on the spree. But no kid says he wants to be a mass murderer when he grows up. They start out loving and people change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:20 AM
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Yeah and someone will sit down and watch baseball today and shoot his cheating on him girlfriend tomorrow. And nobody will bat an eye. Won't even make the national news. ​ 10 others will leave the girlfriend and never talk to her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:17 AM
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Verbally hurting someone’s does not equate to murder you fucking dumbass. I disagree, I think words as especially being not included in peer groups can lead to such feelings. Especially after decades of such what I would call social torture. And I don't agree with your insinuation, I think far more bullied men are passive and don't use violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:14 AM
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And sticks and stones won't break my bones. But that isn't reality? Words and actions of your peers hurt. Incels are victims of their peers. Far more don't hurt others than those that do. I'm not justifying mass shootings. I'm validating the feeling of many victims that they shouldn't suffer in fear and darkness and all the bad things that come with it. They are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:04 AM
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Teased? Ostracized? Excluded? Ignored. Shunned. Cast off. Cast aside. Spurned. For decades. For no fault of their own. Because they were different and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:58 AM
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You type tooo fast while I was editing. I don't care. Give me 30 seconds to respond and correct my bad grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:55 AM
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Yes, some also have body dysmorphia, that doesn't mean they all do. Some are what they say they are. And they would never post a picture online.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:51 AM
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I'll take yours as a yes too. Because a lot of these people were teased and hurt as children under no fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:49 AM
2

Are you defending people who hurt other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:46 AM
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Imagine loving everyone and everything and people hate you for no reason other than things you can't control? Imagine being teased mercilessly for years for such things. No matter how hard you tried you could not overcome this massive amount of hate and negativity pointed in your direction for every innocent thing you do? No matter how hard you tried to overcome it it just doubled and tripled down on you for decades? Try imagining that before you throw around blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:39 AM
1

That's me, what am I supposed to do when I only get interest from 1 woman like every 5 years of my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:25 AM
1

survivorship bias, the only incels who post pictures online aren't ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:12 AM
1

Both, you can't discount the thing that put them there to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:12 PM
1

Get someone to poke you with a stick every 30 seconds for the rest of your life. Then you might know what it is like to be an incel. That's how it feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:10 PM
2

That's fine, but be prepared to deal with the consequences too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:24 PM
5

People who say the world owes you nothing seem to get the majority of the ancillary benefits of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:21 PM
1

You're doing it in your head if you like to believe so or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:19 PM
1

I told you exactly where it's from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:54 AM
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Yeah, it's called a "source". Would you like a proper citation? MLA, APA or Chicago?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:00 PM
2

Prove it came from the book. *****, get a library card.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:18 PM
2

I'm fat and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:13 PM
2

2014 Dataclysm, Rudder Christian, the okcupid book. Page 77 of 191 epub ​ You do have a copy of the most influential book on online dating /DATING/ of the 21 century right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:03 PM
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The footnote on that from the okcupid book, Dataclysm is interesting. It says only .2 of all messages go to people who were left swiped on. (err less than 3 stars)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:38 PM
1

Do you deserve a girlfriend over a gangbanger? Or a drug dealer? How about a felon?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:02 PM
2

Really? My empty inbox for the past 12 years of online dating says different. I get it. I'm not wanted, but don't pretend that I'm the crazy picky one on top of it. It's women who don't want to date me, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:59 PM
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Yes, but men went after less attractive women too. Women were Chad only. This graph proves that. https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg The reason men go after attractive women is because they are told to. To shoot you're shot. You never know. Swing to the fences, you might get lucky. So they message their ideal. The difference is you see in the graph men message the less than ideal and women do not. Women only want their ideal and no amount of text attempting to deflect that fact can change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:57 PM
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That's the good thing about science: It's true whether or not you believe in it. That's why it works. If you are a good human being, you deserve something over a bad human being. Don't sell yourself short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:41 AM
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Nobody has any value. Said nobody who has ever been devalued in their entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:42 AM
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People who don't calculate don't have to. They're the one holding all the cards. It isn't some altruistic position. You don't because you can, not for any other reason. Same goes for any person who thinks "rating" people is wrong. Somehow they end up with a hottie, as if it were some accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:30 AM
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A 50 percentile man should be able to date a 50 percentile woman without feeling like some 70 percentile man is gonna fuck her brains out and leave him for greener pastures. That's the point of the graph, it show women expect a lot more and are very unfair to men of equal value to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:23 AM
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If you're the bottom of the barrel in attractiveness and also holding the country up doing a lot of the jobs that keep it from failing and women say you don't deserve a fair shot at those women(your equals), would you expect them to continue on?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:08 AM
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Those same men are supposed to look at the okcupid graph and be okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:24 AM
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I'm very sorry that happened to you. That kind of thing can fuck someone up for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:22 AM
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Nope, but despite having the advantages and failing too says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:45 AM
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I've never been popular with women.(puberty to 22) I did okay when I was young (32+). I wasn't popular then either, but I had a lifetime to trying in front of me. Every few years I'd get a single person interested in me. It was kinda sad because I couldn't really have an opinion on the matter. My only choice was to choose those that chose me. So I never got any kind of say in the matter. I just had to date those that wanted to date me. For example, like I would have Jan interested in me for a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:45 PM
1

Good luck, I've been trying for 10 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:11 PM
1

What you say means absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:07 PM
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What happened when they tried an experiment by removing bios from okcupid and just left up photos? Can you guess? I'll give you a hint, the answer is in my post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:04 PM
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New Study (2019) says Online dating is now the most popular way of meeting partners surpassing meeting through friends. So Online Dating = Real Life Dating. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/as5bn0/new_study_2019_says_online_dating_is_now_the_most/ So it effects you if you choose to or not choose to believe in it. The way science does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:56 PM
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Self reported studies yes. Most people are delusional. That's why I prefer the okcupid data.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:49 PM
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In 1993 I sat in my homeroom class and counted the girls and boys in relationships. Guess what I came up with? I was the least surprised person in 2008. I am continued to be less surprised year after year.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:48 PM
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Damn you really want this one study to only mean what you want. pot kettle bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:35 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20190719163307/https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer/ Hinge released data in 2017, and suprise, its exactly the same as okcupid/tinder/match/datehookup
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:30 PM
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Thirsty dudes don't exist in real life either.... but only online? It's the same, that's what makes the data so good. It show exactly how picky women are online AND IN REAL LIFE. That's the key.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:24 PM
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notorious for unsexiness lol now who is making unsubstantiated claims? It isn't true because they tested that. The put up a social media sample of pictures and got the same results. okcupid users are as exactly unsexy as people of facebook. aka people who never used online dating, never took selfises of themselves, whatever excuse you have. online daters are as equally attrative as non-online daters. as proven in this: https://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:20 PM
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All apps have the same data. Including match.com. (which is the oldest dating site for "relationships") So you're saying the same thing is true no matter what app someone uses. okcupid, datehookup, hinge, tinder, bumble, all have the same data. ~~Tinder~~ match.com proves that thirsty dudes love the idea of hookups so much they can financially support an entire app that helps good looking men hookup with women. Is just as true because the data is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:13 PM
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Tinder has 50 million users and didn't have the problems people claim okcupid had. Tinder proves that women only like less then 20 percent of men and they don't message them because otherwise, if they did, the distribution of likes would be different and not slightly worse, than okcupids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:04 PM
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Tinder, match.com, datehookup, okcupid all have the same 80 20 pattern. It's from okcupid. Based on 50 million users. Here is the paragraph from the okcupid book and the graph. https://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif tinder version: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:59 PM
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According to the study the overwhelming majority of women messaged back men they did not rank as above attractive or higher. Not even remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:58 PM
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" And even if you did the study still showed that women overwhelmingly messaged back men they didn’t rank as above average or better." False. Only .2 messages go to people who weren't liked. (Dataclysm footnote) See this graph too: https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:56 PM
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Because you can't message someone on Tinder without liking them. So the statement "most dudes aren’t rated very attractive but women messaged a lot of them anyways" is blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:53 PM
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It was updated in 2014 for the okcupid book, Dataclysm. Here is the actual paragraph under it and please explain how it is misrepresented. https://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:51 PM
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Fat girls don't want fat guys period. I know this as a fat guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:10 AM
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People get put into positions when they are young and beautiful and then they age and become not so beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:52 AM
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twitch streaming is old. the new thing is reacting to older movies. Takes less time and you can outsource the editing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:43 PM
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StDs are at a record high yet again. And it isn't just the gays, pregnant women/babies born with STDs are at record highs. Further and continuing evidence women are dating the same men at increased rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:37 PM
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This is how ugly people get into positions of power, they age into it. Not that they were ugly and got the position. It's funny when you see an ugly executive but then you see a picture of when they were a junior executive when they were handsome or pretty and usually 100 pounds ago. It actually reinforces the belief that pretty people get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:31 PM
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>So by these stats 82% of men recieved at least one message from a woman. I see you ignored the part where the lowest of the low women only messaged chad[highest quintile] at a far greater rate than men do. Women do it far more and something that women have claimed men do. ​ Static images are the only thing that matters. The profile means nothing as men[and women] with and without their profile text receive the same scores. https://i.imgur.com/tM24JGG.png You can say women prefer real life more …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:23 PM
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Tinder, match.com, datehookup, okcupid all have the same 80 20 pattern. It's from okcupid. Based on 50 million users. Here is the paragraph from the okcupid book and the graph. https://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif tinder version: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:40 PM
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You're just wrong. Reread my post, I updated with more info. Christian Rudder (okcupid founder who wrote an entire book on the data) tested this by using a random assortment of social media pictures (aka mixture of married and single people on facebook) and found no difference between the users on online dating and "regular people". **So the fact that women take pictures of their boyfriends on social media doesn't affect the scores.** okcupid users aren't uglier than their married never used onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:37 PM
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It's from okcupid. Based on 50 million users. Here is the paragraph from the okcupid book and the graph. https://i.imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif tinder version: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. So according to Tinder dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:30 PM
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Incorrect, this was tested by including photos and text with a profile and a photo only. Your profile is only as good as your photos. What you say in your profile is meaningless. https://i.imgur.com/tM24JGG.png --------- ​ okcupid's founder, Harvard mathematics graduate, Christian Rudder, ran an experiment with okcupid's large member base. He ran users profiles with and without the profile text. Meaning the only thing that stayed on the profile was the pictures in half the profiles that were rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:17 PM
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These numbers have to be taken in the context of there were once dramatically more men than women on OLD. Now, numbers are considerably more balanced, but no one has made a new survey. The reverse is true actually. The numbers were more balanced when 80/20 was first conceived. It was from data pre 2009. It included match.com and a site called "datehookup". Long before Tinder and swiping apps entered the building. The male to female ratio was more balanced. I would say from data it was 60:40 men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:10 PM
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I was a three year starter and captain of my football team. Didn't help me get one date in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:26 AM
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butt.... but... you completely dismantled their argument in a brutal fashion. All the psychological gymnastics that go on in their head can be broken down to such simple terms it always falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:14 AM
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diabetics can have sugar, that's a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:35 PM
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So many incorrect and factual misinterpretations I can't even begin to correct them all. > Women sent 11 times as many messages to the most attractive men compared to the least attractive ones, and 4 times the amount to average men. This says the opposite of what you say it does. That means women only want attractive men. Your proving the point you are trying to disprove. >On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:36 PM
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You don't need a nude beach really. Go early/late in the season, get up early and go. Nobody would care. /lived off beach for 7 years
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:35 AM
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lol I've heard this argument before and you're so wrong. Frollo isn't a nice guy. Follo is obsessed with power and squishes ant, people he sees as less than him. Frollo isn't consumed with being "out there" he is out there. He literally has his own throne at the feast. Frollo is in a popular power position and has servants (Quasi). Frollo gives orders, doesn't take them. He was ready to murder Quasi at a moments notice of burden to him. Frollo oppresses gypsies for years. Frollo is the chad rapi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:50 AM
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You aren't getting thousands of tinder matches? You aren't being showered in male attention? You entire life isn't being driven by your looks in the case you make great money, being offered jobs you don't belong in? What makes you different?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:33 AM
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4-6 guys within the top 20 percent of men to women. because that's how they rate men. you put so many men at 2, you're 4-6 becomes impossible to obtain for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:29 AM
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I'm not an incel. I have a kid, I was married. I've been on dates, had sex with 10+ different women. Had a threesome twice. But most of that was when I was younger. I'm not really successful either. My dating life has been really sad for over 10 years. I consider myself to be a very low tier normie. Just above incel. People can call me whatever they want. But lot of what incels say and a lot of their oppression is true. I want incels to get help like another other liberal wants to help those tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:20 AM
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That's where I went to high school. I used to count the crack vials in the street on the way to practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:34 AM
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I worked at the AMC movie theater (Marple 10) near the Springfield Mall. That's where I learned a lot of blackpills :) grew up in SW Philly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:25 AM
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If women started banging neckbeards in their mothers basement who played fortnite all day, we would have world peace in a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:14 AM
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Another one is the fact that confidence has a one to one relationship with experience. If girls keep filtering for guys who are confident, they’re going to keep getting entangled with guys who have options and then complaining that those guys don’t treat them special or won’t commit. Because confidence is literally just a limbic signal of optionality. That’s what confidence is in the deepest sense. This is the cause of all women's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:06 AM
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Things that work for me is just putting in an ungodly amount of hours and hoping the right person comes along at the right time. My interest really doesn't matter compared to the other person's. I have to accept those that accept me. I don't really get any say in the matter. It's okay though because I'm not picky and I want to make things work. It isn't very easy, and it takes a lot of work. That's why I laugh at the effort posts. People really have no idea. That's the catch, this doesn't even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:59 AM
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What do each of these groups share? Genetics. The word people don't like to hear because they like to think they are in direct.control of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:55 AM
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The real point is I put more into dating than most people do full stop. Like I said that was just one side of the dating aspect. That largely stopped over the past 5 years and I been concentrating more.in person, but it hasn't made a.shred of difference. Once again because I am unsuccessful doesn't.mean I haven't put in effort, in fact I put in a lot more effort that the majority of people. People just assume successful =. effort unsuccessful = no effort. That's a myth and I'm tired of tired of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:15 AM
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Then what? the first 10 years of my life before the internet when I was at my peak? That doesn't count? 25+ years of improving myself isn't enough? How about 60+ meetups in the past 3 years? (and a year and half of that was during a pandemic so its more like a year and a half) Please inform me of the great effort you put in that dwarfs mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:30 AM
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Well the self improvement started when I was 13, that includes all the stuff that people usually tell people to do. Shower, wear nice clothes, improve yourself as person, get the interesting hobbies, etc... You know the basics. My teens and 20s was in person kinda of things because the internet didn't exist yet. I went to 16-24 clubs twice a week. The things that I did to improve my online presence I could write a book about. I started online dating 15 years ago. I written 1500 unique personaliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:41 AM
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Growing up I put in more effort than 99 percent of my peers but I wasn't nearly as successful as them. For example I met my high school best friend when we were in the 7th grade. He was taller and skinner than me. I was shorter and fatter. But I put in a lot more effort, I was successful football and baseball player, while he played too, he was mostly my backup. I did things like start football as a sophomore and he didn't even really play as a senior while I was captain. Not only was I more suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:40 AM
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I laugh when people who are sucessful think they did more than I did because they are successful. If they only knew the amount of effort I put into online dating. It's borderline insanity how many hours I put into improving myself. It's just a just world assumption because they are successful and I am not that they think they put in more hours/days/months/years than I did. If you objectively look at it, it isn't even close. That's why the mere suggestion that "you haven't tried", is met with dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:16 AM
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That's the easiest way to lose everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:05 AM
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https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/936a3fbe-e452-4a40-a085-f03b9091d89f
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:28 PM
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I dunno, six pack abs and a 36f chest seemed to genetically impossible according to some women by to guys sounds like a pretty unique individual. Big boobs aren't even my thing but I am insanely curious now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:10 PM
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Maybe you haven't aged enough, I'll check back in a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:07 PM
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I meant not satisfied, sorry on mobile doing this. I think you're more satisfied than Men because you can order a menu of what you want and men will jump to fill that menu. If you want a black little person to eat your ass then cook you spaghetti you could have it three times a week for the next week. If I wanted a woman to hug me tomorrow I might have to wait sometime for the next year for it to reasonably happen. Even if I went to a dedicated meetup cuddle party (yes those exist I checked)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:05 PM
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Once again, your worried about the meta post and not the post is saying itself. It was written 11 years ago. Twitter was barely a thing. Instagram wasn't a thing. Facebook was barely a thing. And it isn't easy to maintain when no maintaining can outdo the decline. I can relate because I've been declining since I was 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:41 PM
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Just be ugly, it isn't that had to reduce male attention. I'm not even trying nor have I ever tried, and I reduce female attention! Your just lazy! What have you done lately to reduce male attraction? I bet you still shower. You aren't even trying I bet. Why the hell is every woman so obsessed with this poor ladies breasts? That was the least interesting thing to me about this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:33 PM
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Lol a year is laughably short to most men. Most men are not satisfied at a year in between. And usually it's starting much later than 16. I personally was 22. And I consider myself lucky because I was fairly ok 22 to 30 while in a ltr. But to say it's been sparse since then it's an understatement. And it's not like I am a women with a foot fetish to where I say I have a foot fetish and I get 10 men who all have the prefect attributes I am looking for and a foot fetish ready to go at a drop of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:22 PM
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Seems like I hit a nerve with some women and this post. Besides questioning the authenticity, do you have any idea what she means?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:39 PM
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Maybe what they say is true and you haven't experienced it yet? It's ok old fat and ugly you'll forget I exist soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:34 PM
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No I am a guy who likes science. And just happens to break a lot of people assumptions about fat people and obeisty. And I read that post/thread as particularly insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:27 PM
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Besides the boobs thing, what exactly do you have a problem with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:19 PM
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I get told all the time by fatpeoplehate that I break the first law of thermodynamics because I dare question them on their fatpeoplehate science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:03 PM
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Lots of formerly hot chicks become old women who drink themselves to death I've found.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:01 PM
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I gave them proper post accreditation. I took them at face value and it being an accedingly long and old account. Go look for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:58 PM
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The post I took this from is 11 years old. If you read it, it has a lot of black pill biases and it predates a lot of bullshit that get thrown around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:52 PM
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We'll see what they say for themselves. People tell me I shouldn't exist all the time. Yet here I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:45 PM
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Well you can tell us in a few more years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:41 PM
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People tell me all the time that I'm genetically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:37 PM
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Your talking to a genetics truther here. Genetics are a powerful force.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:35 PM
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I'm 45, fat, ugly... I'm pretty forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:31 PM
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Well I wrote them with this thread linked. So we'll see. It's a nice 11+ year old account larping for 11+ years then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:28 PM
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How long is long?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:24 PM
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I don't understand? You and the other person seem to think this was written by someone young? Why do you think that? Explain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:11 PM
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I was a Catholic schoolboy. Even with your religious "exceptions", I think my point still stands firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:54 PM
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That's the whole point. Learn your weakspots. Learn your biases. I don't think I'm better but because I'm aware of it I can do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:34 PM
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Yeah and skinny people forget to eat for 24 hours. How is that have anything to do with their level of control?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:28 PM
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Interesting posts related to PPD series. In this installment we have an old woman looking back at her good looking days and how it affected her worldview. Thinks_like_a_man I was a former super hot chick, and now older woman. I can tell you a few things of what it is like from the other side. When I was 25, I too was into running and lifting weights and my body was spectacular and I had six-pack abs and a naturally large chest (36F). Everywhere I went, men of all ages stared at me. It was really…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:13 PM
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Yes, why would anyone choose something as dumb as food to the detriment of every other aspect of their life? Nobody loves food that much. And it's the dumbest decision ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:07 PM
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My favorite saying: I've never seen a person who says sex isn't a need go without for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:00 PM
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You need to read up on the Halo effect, to where one physical appearance controls this aspect of your judgement. Also the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure I'm nicer than the guy who just strangled his pretty girlfriend to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:48 PM
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Don't care if you block me. The facts hurt don't they? People who block are closeminded. Then they get shocked when their little worldview gets smacked upside their head. The thing is the statistics show the opposite. Fat women don't want to date fat men. And it has nothing to do with personality. That 50 million ratings prove even the lowest of the low fat woman only wants the top 20 percent of men, and you may block me, but you can't block the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:44 PM
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Millions of years of evolutionary pressure to eat. That's the thing, people seem to think you are on control of your body and your actions 100 percent of the time. And that isn't true, we are guided by our bodies all the time and we take credit for things that aren't in our control. For example, you can't hold your breath until you pass out. You have the ability to control your breathing, yet you can't make yourself pass out. The same for a fat person who can control their eating but can't resis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:38 PM
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Your putting a whole lot of words of things I never said into my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:28 PM
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It's in my top 3 movies. And I watch a lot of movies. Having the heart of the ocean in your pocket is a pretty nice safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 05:00 AM
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I gave you a perfectly reasonable explanation. Sorry your small woman brain couldn't handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:55 AM
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one of my favorite reddit posts of all time thinks_like_a_man: I was a former super hot chick, and now older woman. I can tell you a few things of what it is like from the other side. When I was 25, I too was into running and lifting weights and my body was spectacular and I had six-pack abs and a naturally large chest (36F). Everywhere I went, men of all ages stared at me. It was really annoying that most didn't even try to hide it. The ones that were the worst were the creepy middle aged men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:53 AM
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I've been to 60+ meetup and I desperately try to avoid being that guy. It's hard. And I feel unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:48 AM
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50 million people isn't some throwaway statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:36 AM
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Men overrated attractiveness is a anomaly of how women rate men. A man rating another man in the middle of attractiveness, a 50 percentile man, a man with half of men more attractive than him and a half of men less attractive than him. So a man rates him (including himself) a 5. A woman rating man in the middle of attractiveness, a 50 percentile man, a man with half of men more attractive than him and a half of men less attractive than him rate him as a 2.5/10 So of course men are going to rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:26 AM
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I went out with my wife to see Sin City. I just remember not even really paying attention to the film. I was just sitting there thinking about my life. I finally felt complete. I had a job I didn't like, but I had a wife who cared about me, a healthy 3 year old son, a place to stay that was safe, food on the table... everything in my life was pretty much set. For once. I just remember walking hand in hand with her from the parking lot to my car, for once I allowed myself to relax. I just let all…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:15 AM
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not for all of us, maybe for you, but that just means you're lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 04:05 AM
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being fat isn't a choice. if it was why would anyone ever choose it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:55 AM
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being fat isn't a choice. ​ if it was why would anyone ever choose it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:55 AM
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fatlogic isn't very scientific either. they mostly go off of old science. shit that hasn't worked in 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:54 AM
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Being fat isn't a decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:49 AM
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I became intolerable at the ripe age of 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:39 AM
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He shot their dog too. Oh I was wrong, the dog burned to death when he set the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:52 AM
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Enough blackpill content for one day, let's do something else. Flips on youtube, oh true crime. clicks on first video. Women being interrogated about her boyfriend who murdered two people over 250 dollars. She let him stay with her, helps him bathe with bleach and get clean clothes. Talks about him on the phone, the boyfriend has codes he uses with his friends including 1488, she doesn't know what those mean. She says she became his girlfriend shortly after he got out of prison. Prison was rough…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:48 AM
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You'd be shocked the number of men that are in relationships with women in which they have nothing in common with and just don't want to be alone. That's what some men are reduced to-to have any relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:34 AM
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I've heard of it. But you've convinced me I need to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:33 PM
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Some women just get pushed up by looks alone. I know one attractive woman got all dressed up and practiced interview questions. The person did the hiring never even looked at her resume, she walked in and was hired that instant, she was explaining this story because she was mad-she prepared all these interview questions. The fact she got the job didn't even really register to her as unusual-she just mentioned it like it was nothing. She also admitted she really didn't have the proper qualificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:20 AM
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I wanted to invent a mathematical consistent dating service. It matches you up with your percentile looksmatch. It would allow you to message people above your mathematical looksmatch but it would denigrate you as you did it. Oh, so you're 43 percentile woman and you think you deserve a 74 percentile man? don't be sad when he doesn't call after you blow him. Hey neckbeard (23 percentile), that swimsuit models(89 percentile) sees 800 people a day better looking than you. Move along and message a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:03 AM
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This reminds me of someone who said unattractive men want supermodels! And their evidence was a thread in which someone asked "What is you ideal woman?" So of course everyone answered honestly, all hot traditionally pretty women. But that was the question, it asked for the "ideal". If you ask me what would be my ideal car, I would pick a fast sportscar or an ultra luxurious suv. You asking for over and above something someone would think as reasonable. A reasonable car would be a used sedan. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:52 AM
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Oh you have no idea. I'm the bottom of the barrel male just a hair above incels. One day I'm going to post the amount of effort I put into dating. I dare one person to say I didn't put effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:50 PM
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Why is she statistically proven to believe she the 30 percentile woman deserves an 80 percentile man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:47 PM
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Yeah and the 280lbs woman thinks the division 1 athlete is looksmatched with herself? Look I get it, if you're hot, you deserve someone hot too. But the statistics say bottom of the barrel women think they deserve better than 80 percent of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:45 PM
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I point out that I have my shirt on on every picture and I don't have a dead fish in them either. It didn't matter one bit for me. women don't realize they are clicking on the same shirtless fishing dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:37 PM
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As an unattractive man, with one experiment, I can prove without a shadow of doubt, how important looks are to women. People still try and argue this point. This can be easily refuted by one simple experiment. My online dating profile has a well filled out, well vetted by women profile. I have pictures vetted the same way by people who have seen me in person. I get about one serious date every 2 years. I average about one semi-interested person every month and a half. In other words, I'm really …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:37 PM
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That's why the okcupid data is so valuable. People at home, swiping on their toilet or out at the bar, are as honest as you are going to get them. For the first 5 years I would argue people didn't even know they were being tracked and there was no swiping system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:34 PM
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I've never seen an incel give up a chance a date for porn and/or video games. This would never ever happen. A chance with a girl for an incel is almost a once in a lifetime opportunity (if that is true or not) So for sexless men this is not true. This is a Chad only behavior/maybe married Normies too. That's why this even gets floated because Women who propose this theory only see Chads and normies as people. Incels are completely nowhere on their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:29 PM
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The okcupid book says only .02 message go to people they haven't liked so this contradicts that the blog says.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:59 AM
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I was a meetup member going back to 2005, I didn't actually go to a meetup until 2018. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:10 AM
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it’s clear you view yourself this way and that manifests in how people view you even if you don’t act that way in person People aren't mind readers. I'm not getting skinner. It's just not happening for me and has never happened for me. I was more active than 99 percent of people my age. I was a two sport athlete, I was still fat and looked fat which is why I was a star player and never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:00 AM
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I've attended 61 meetups. I showered, wear nice clothes, socialized, and I'm too fat and ugly. Surprise. 🎈🎈🎈📣📣📣🧨🧨🧨🎪🎪🎪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:24 PM
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Incels are not a tight knit group. Their personalities are fine, in fact they are usually much more level headed that a lot of guys. Critical thinking does take a hit because they suffer from PTSD from the torture of being isolated and lonely. The only incels who post their pictures are the best looking ones. Selection bias/suriviorship bias. Women hated them long before they hated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:23 PM
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Nah. Everything you said here is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:43 PM
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Oh hai mark
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:18 PM
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It's the same reason, only the most normal looking incels will post. It's selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:15 PM
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Women don't want their options. There are 30 percent of incels that would die to go out on a date with you. The incel looking for a 10/10 is one of the biggest myths that gets floated around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:11 PM
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Match.com has the same data as tinder. (and okcupid and hinge) So either they are both hookup sites or neither of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:08 PM
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I'm 45, I started online dating when okcupid still had journals and quizzes. And I was the boy next door. Most people here were still in diapers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:05 PM
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Because they never read a scientific paper in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:01 PM
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The male gender doesn't know how to take a screenshot I'm more mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:33 AM
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online dating has just given us statistics based on what women do, and not what they say. I think this has been happening since the beginning of time though and only now are we getting insight into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:24 AM
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The science is behind me, keep shouting "eat less move more" like a dumbass who hasn't read a science paper in two decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:20 AM
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>We just want them to shut up. Very true. It's almost worse than straight out ostracization. Acknowledging something is a problem and ignoring it. That's the next step, inceldom is a problem and we're not going to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:11 AM
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I'm liberal too. But I think incels need our help and not our scorn. How very liberal of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:06 AM
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I just don't want little boys to feel like they did something wrong. Because they didn't. They are victims, that was something I was never told. I was always told it was me it was my hangup. I have to improve. I took that to heart and tried desperately to improve. So much so that it drove me crazy and I went places that I shouldn't have gone. I kept trying and trying beyond what anyone should do. But that's what I was told, so that's what I was gonna do. Later, I'm much happier because I know a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:01 AM
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I grew up in the early 90s. We were told it was all in our heads. Blue pill was prevalent. It was hard to argue because I had nothing besides my own experiences. Just work on yourself and it will happen. I did. I tried. Real hard. But with the internet all these truths have appeared and I remember what I was told. I literally sat in my homeroom class and counted who had a boyfriend/girlfriend. In 1994 I came up with 80/20. 80 percent of the girls had boyfriends and 20 percent of the guys had gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:39 AM
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https://youtu.be/TkhSmJkaB1I long before online dating this was a thing too take this report from the 90s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:24 AM
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Children are being rejected as children. And they do try when they start becoming aware of how the world works. But then they see how futile it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:19 AM
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ALL women don't want fat guys so they put sporty shit in their profile to weed them out. The mountains of Asia would be filled with all the women who constantly go hiking if their profiles accurately reflected their hobbies. Most of the time it's drowning in wine and watching the bachelor on the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:18 AM
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It's more about reinforcement of cycles at a young age. The popular boys gets away with more things because of the halo effect. They treated better than the ugly boys. SO while that may be true. It still isn't their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:14 AM
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If you can’t over come basic childhood bullying and grow from it you’re just doomed as a person. Hence incels are sometimes called doomers. It's easier for women to break out of bulling because they control what men want. Hence why there are no women incels. If you spent all your life hated for no real reason other then being ugly, you'd feel just as hopeless when you become and adult. See before the internet, incels would disappear from the normies and popular kids view. They eliminate those pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:09 AM
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Little girls hate unpopular little boys. Long before porn or video games become a factor. It literally starts on the playground. The popular boy bullies the unpopular boy. Little girl likes the popular boy more. Two reinforced cycles begin. The reward for the popular kid to bully the unpopular kid and the spiral of defeatism for the unpopular kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:56 AM
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It literally starts as children on the playground. The unpopular boy is told "ewww get away from me" before things like porn and video game are even on his radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:54 AM
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Women hated them first. They are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:49 AM
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I'm 45 years old. This happened long before porn existed for 6 year olds. It's just incels couldn't compare notes before. They were fed the bluepill then too. It was all their fault. But I remember what it was like to be bullied at a young age. Porn wasn't even a factor till way later. I would have given my right arm for a date at 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:47 AM
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What little boy knows anything about sex? People reject them before sex comes into play, people are bulled as children in the 3rd grade. They get angry long before sex is even an afterthought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:44 AM
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sorry I was just getting down my point, its longer now. No, they are victims, society treats them poorly first, they create the monster, then the monster turns on them. No little boy is born a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:41 AM
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Girls (Women) reject them first, peers reject them first, society rejects them first. Then all that other stuff comes later. Boys would go with girls if they wanted them too, but it doesn't happen at a young age for young boys. So boys take up activities that are meaningful for them. The mass reject by society comes first though. Even later when boys "try" like at high school, they don't get girls attention. No incels or young boy is going to choose a video game over a date with a girl. It does …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:30 AM
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You keep pointing out advice that I said doesn't work. So you must think I'm stupid if I can't do the one thing that somehow everyone else can do. That's the problem, you're overconfident in your advice. You can't sit here and tell me that I don't know how my own body works. Its silly because no matter what I say you think you're so right and your just not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:57 PM
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That's the catch, it isn't voluntary. That's why people don't lose weight. It isn't some master of self control that people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:50 PM
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You honestly think I've gone through 45 years without hearing someone giving that exact same advice? The problem is you are so sure of yourself you haven't even bothered to check if the nonsense you are spouting has anything to do with current obesity science. You think if it works for you, it should work for everyone. It doesn't. And it hasn't. That's the part you can't get though your thick skull. You just automatically assume that we're stupid. Our bodies are different, they don't store and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:42 AM
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hold your breath then and pass out, your choice to pass out will overpower your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:10 PM
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Never in my life has anyone told me I eat too much. And yes, they would have. I just don't. My body just keeps weight on. My last girlfriend stayed with me in my house for a month, she said and I quote, "You don't eat that much do you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:09 PM
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The okcupid book Datalcysm came out in 2014. That was the most recent release of the okcupid data. It was by the same author of the blog post. Here is a more traditional paper that has the same graph from 2014. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop\_pmc/tileshop\_pmc\_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image%20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=4043335\_nihms-532398-f0002.jpg https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Tinder CEO also released their right/left swipe data in 2014: >After …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:03 PM
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Hold your breath until you pass out then. The mechanism to breathe is evolutionary just as old as the mechanism to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:57 PM
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Yeah and what happens after that month? People go right back to eating the same amount they did before. It isn't rocket science. There is something internally making them do that and it has nothing to do with conscience willpower
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:56 PM
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They lock people up in clinics and feed them all the same thing. Different people get different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:52 PM
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They lock people up in clinics and they all get the same thing. Each person has a different result from the exact same food. So if everyone has a different result from eating the exact same food, how is willpower any part of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:51 PM
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There is no self control or discipline if they forget to eat. That's the opposite of self control and discipline by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:47 PM
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Not a drop in my entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 09:59 PM
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I realized today I haven't had a liquid calorie in over 20 years. /Still fat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 09:17 PM
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Is it really though? Ever hear skinny people saying they go all day without eating because they forgot? There is something internally that allows them to do that. It isn't in their control, they don't want to eat so they don't. My body after 2 hours starts screaming at me to eat which I have to ignore or be fatter than I am. I sit in pain whole my body screams at me to eat until 8 hours I relent and eat something. Is the skinny person who doesn't even get reminded to eat in 24 hours put in more …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:59 PM
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Yeah, when the internet came around I thought ignorance would disappear. I get proven wrong every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:54 PM
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Fatpeoplehate and fatlogic isn't scientific despite their claims. It's more complicated than that. Your science is behind 40 years. We've found genes that controls many factors and many factors aren't in your direct control. You can't hold your breath until you pass out either. Your body physically makes you breathe no matter how much effort you put into holding your breath. Your body controls you more than you'd like to think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:46 PM
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That just simply isn't true. Some fat people just retain weight a lot easier than others. I've always been this person my entire life. Never on my life has a person looked at me or the amount of food I was eating and thought I ate to much. Ever. Not once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:08 AM
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As the fattest guy on PPD I can say with one hand I can count the number of times I been hit on in my life of 45 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:01 AM
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I've been over 225 pounds since I was 13. The second puberty started I became fat from skinny. Some of us it just isn't possible to be normal weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 09:55 AM
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Why people believe in nonscientific exploit when there is real science to learn I'll never understand. It's just as silly as horoscopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 09:28 AM
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the only blackpillers you see are the ones attractive enough to post their pictures. there is an entire group that would and never do post their pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:09 PM
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Why the Myers-Briggs Test is Total B.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:58 AM
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A man in the middle of attractiveness, a 50 percentile man, is a 2.5 to women. A man in the middle of attractiveness is going to rate himself a 5. Because he is better looking that half the men. Is this delusional? It's more an an anomaly the way women rate men, then men being delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:47 AM
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I don't get what the big deal is, I don't get babies because I pull out and I cum all over her face. That's the best method of birth control there is. 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:02 PM
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My ex had/has PCOS and we have an 18 year old. My ex's sister had a serious disease (I can't remember which) as a child and she was told by multiple doctors she would never have a baby throughout her life and her son is 20. Life finds a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:41 PM
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In my experience women are never happy even then. They always want the next step up than what they have. Once they get that then they want the next thing. It's an endless cycle in which she'll never be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:30 PM
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I happily live on less than 1k a month. How you would have to support me if I don't make 40k sounds completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:21 AM
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I felt nothing and had zero side effects with both shots. Pfizer
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:07 PM
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Yes, I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:43 PM
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Men and women of another country spent their last 20 years protecting women and children of not of their own culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:11 AM
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Men don't get any interest first. Usually when they are boys. Children. That's when the ostracization starts. That when bullying starts. That's why they are victims. Some people get lucky and blossom out of it, others continue a downward spiral into despair and loneliness. These men are victims of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:15 PM
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Kind hard to form a relationship as a guy if you don't meet anyone from the app, now does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:19 PM
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Any data that doesn't have a gender breakdown is suspect. Previous data show men and women have vastly different experiences online. Any attempt to mix them together is trying to hide that fact. This study also appears to collect data from homosexual couples as well further muddling the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 06:29 PM
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Tinder you have to comatch and it has worse statistics than okcupid. So your notification hypothesis is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:56 PM
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This post is from 2009, and ancient history. Several of the statements in it are in dispute and you've chosen to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:52 PM
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When I first saw this I laughed so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:43 PM
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https://youtu.be/_NQqSnkI32A
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:05 AM
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Disagree you put people in a skewed environment, say an army base, people change the attraction real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 03:01 PM
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It's a myth that tinder is a hookup site and match.com is a long term dating site. The numbers are the same people want attractive people for both. There is no statistical difference between the groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:56 PM
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Hostile Sexism Score: 1.36 Benevolent Sexism Score: 1.64
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 04:13 AM
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I sat tonight with two fat guy engineers at a cafe, both of whom make close to a 100k a year. Neither have girlfriends. The fat chick that looked to be on a date with a short but built indian dude. They were about the same height and she was about 100lbs heavier than him. 250+ He was well coifed. I wanted to take a picture so bad. But I just can't do that to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:00 AM
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Take pictures so we can judge you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:11 PM
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2nd one a real graph, done by the owners of shiftgig and okcupid. Better looking women get more jobs than anyone. 3rd one is from gremlins 2, it's brainy gremlin giving advice as the world falls to shit. People in ppd should stock up on canned goods and shotguns. 4th one is the game show called "Family Feud" The host, Richard Dawson was known for kissing all of the women on the lips. Everyone. There was a meme about 15 years go talking about "hitting it" which means having sex. I'd hit it became…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 03:22 AM
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Which?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:29 AM
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When I was in college I would put all the weight on the leg press machine. I don't think I got an A.becaise the instructor was jealous. Because once again I didn't look like the kind of guy who could loft a bunch of weight, I just looked like a fat guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:49 AM
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this is what makes the okcupid data so valuable. its direct what people were doing data. It wasn't opinion, or asking them what they do. It is exactly what they did. And at the time people were very naive about their data being collected, so they weren't even aware they were being watched. ​ That's why Dataclysm's first subtitle is: Who we are (when we think nobody is watching).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:42 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/BPaERpu.png https://i.imgur.com/zkdkS3G.gif https://i.imgur.com/r1ktV7h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4ZyxrYC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6VFzjMR.png https://i.imgur.com/aAcEUxx.png https://i.imgur.com/oHFNM1i.png
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:29 AM
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Where I live no pets are allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:13 AM
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It would put people around your level of attractiveness in your search results and push down people who weren't. In other words it tried to be fair... In retrospect, this was probably a problem for women. In r/okcupid we had a saying, if you only see ugly people in your search results, guess what? Tinder and bumble front load good looking people and mix in your level on hopes that will raise their likability. When good looking people are mixed in with ordinary people, the ordinary people look be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:25 PM
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That's true but it really didn't crumble until 2016ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 10:12 PM
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Yes, I have 55+ RSVPs on meetup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:42 PM
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Not a peep. Not even a nibble. So can we rule out this whole women are just as desperate as men nonsense yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:33 PM
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I'm not red pill, I do try and operate in reality however so that is sometimes inconvenient for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:29 PM
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Dataclysm, the okcupid book. Christain Rudder said there were about 10 million active accounts at the height of it's popularity. And Tinder had 50 million+ according to a New York Times interview with the CEO in 2014. The link isn't far back in my history. I'm on mobile atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:25 PM
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Like I said there were options to filter those out. You ignore a much larger section of people who weren't for some other reason you aren't mentioning. There is no way poly people were in any way a majority on the website. I don't know why you've convinced yourself it was. I could dig up the numbers but if it was more than 5 percent it would be astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:33 PM
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Yes, but okcupid always had the ability to filter out those people. They had a monogamous and no monogamous option during that time. Maybe it was the type of guy you were into and not the general population at large was the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:21 PM
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At it's height, okcupid had 10 million people. No way remotely was it more than a few percentage pointe of poly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:16 PM
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Disagree, that's why I said tinder had 5 times the amount. That still leaves 10 million people for okcupid. And there isn't that many poly people, strange people etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:15 PM
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The first line is "Be handsome" People always forget that part of the meme. That's what's most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:17 PM
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Women already had the perfect left leaning, progressive, profile driven dating site, okcupid from 2009 to 2012. Yet they transitioned into Tinder the shallowest of shallow picture driven dating site in record numbers. 5 times okcupid numbers. Instagram also exploded in popularity. Women being less shallow then men rhetoric seems to ignore this massive shift of millions. Men follow where the women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:22 PM
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One exception doesn't prove the rule. Statistically women are harshest to the most unattractive men. Those are the fat ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:04 PM
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It's easy to dismiss it when you aren't the one experiencing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:58 PM
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Unless you've experienced extreme isolation it can be very had to have empathy for someone. It's easy to just urn blame on someone, but it's almost comical how a man attitude deteriorates from a highly positive one to a highly.negsrive one. One of my favorite cartoons ever was a man who starts out super kind and positive on the first frame of the cartoon, but as the days rock on his transition into an ugly troll progresses until he becomes a troll. His beard grows, he becomes disheveled. He clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:50 PM
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Because I can read dating statistics? So when would you like to meet? I've opened myself to date anyone with 500 miles of me. Put up or shut up. Here is an example: published study (sample size ~15000):](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/) Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:41 PM
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I'm about to turn 45 the next 15 year old that wants to date me I'm sure I'll have better things to say If my math is correct she's 39 now and I'm sure she got over it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:02 AM
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Well yeah when you are 21 and still a virgin yourself 17 didn't feel like that long ago. Especially those ages Ps this was in 1997. I think I did a pretty good job since I only had acess to dumb inner city Philadelphia kids from the 90s, a warped catholic education, and not the legion of the internet with the prefect speech that I would be given today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:01 AM
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When I was 21 a 15 year old had a crush on me. I was still a kissless virgin and I didn't do anything with her. I sat on my friends car with her totally alone, and explained she would have many opportunities with boys her own age soon. I told her she was beautiful and would totally date her of I was a little younger. And people say fat people have no self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 06:04 AM
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As a fat guy (fattest on pdd) who is pretty much willing to date anyone sight unseen, https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/or8vct/comment/h6hurnu/ It's very clear fat women don't want to date fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:57 AM
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Making the world a better place with one dumbasses death at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:49 AM
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Next time you come up to a traffic light, why listen to the man? Go right through that fucker. The government trying to tell you what to do? What are you some kind a sheep? Put your money where you mouth is and stop all this government overreaching telling you what to do when. Go flying right through that fucker or bend over and take it like the rest of us. You wouldn't want to be a pansy ass liberal listening to the government do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:47 AM
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So you plan on paying my bills for the rest of my life? Thanks. I appreciate that. I'll stay home and you can send me your paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:42 AM
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Seems like they’re just making it up as they go. That's how science works. You do one thing, see of it works, then you do the other thing and see if that's better. That kinda how it works. So yeah it would seem like they are making it up as they go but only and idiot would think that. It's almost as if the problem is hard and we can't know exactly what to do 100 percent of the time. Holy shit, you mean science is a process and isn't instant gratification? Holy fuck. It almost you haven't paid at…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:41 AM
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I never asked my wife to do anything. She just did them because she and I had two different standards of what we consider acceptable. This led to resentment and eventually divorce,.not entirely, but it was one of the reasons why. I had set no standards, yet the same innate standard doomed my marriage because ours were different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:37 AM
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People send threatening and harassing messages because they've had a psychotic break from nonresponse. So they send the message to get a response, even a negative one to feel like they aren't just throwing messages in a bottle into an uncaring ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:20 AM
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Yes I wear my seatbelt with the flu too. They give the flu shot every year and I took that too. Never got the flu. You should get off the internet, I hear bill gates send 5g through the internet to people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:14 AM
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I'm sorry you have to deal with the brunt of human ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:37 AM
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I'm not afraid of covid anymore then I'm afraid of a car accident. I wear my seatbelt every time and drive carefully. I hope you remember this conversation when you can't breathe anymore on the ventilator.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:36 AM
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Not coronavirus but an airborne contagious virus that would spread exponentially. It could have been bird flu, it could have been SARS. Historically this has happened before. And they didn't have air travel. You're a conspiracy nutball and I'm not arguing with someone with zero critical thinking skills. Do us a favor and be one of the ones who has a painful death regretting not getting vaccinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:30 AM
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Conspiracy nonsense. This has happened every 100 years for the entire human existence. That's why we knew it was coming. Air travel made it a certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:11 AM
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Is it wrong that I don't want to wear a mask to spread the delta variant to all the morons who didn't vaccinate? Now that I am on this side of the equation, I'm supposed to be responsible while they ran around like typhoid Mary putting me at risk before the vaccine existed? Fuck them and I hope they all die. Payback is a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:56 AM
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https://youtu.be/o-vMrrZA3cM
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 01:25 AM
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I wonder why that is. Maybe you should read up on the just world fallacy doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:23 AM
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I've never taken a photo with a fish and a keep my shirt on. How come I'm so unpopular then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 03:10 AM
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Yes, it's easy to blame people. That doesn't mean it's right or true. That's why we have science. And I'm the one who linked evidence backing up my point. Now rare it is for fat people to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:58 AM
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I didn't say you didn't do any work, but the fact you succeeded while others fail is independent of the ability of someone else to do the same thing as you and get the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:24 AM
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A realistic one that can read statistical data?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 08:35 PM
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Yep I won the lottery to get rich, so on order to get rich all you have to do it play the lottery. That isn't how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:33 PM
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By japanese vending machine is how I get all my schoolgirls panties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:19 PM
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I wrote a poem in the chat post. And they deleted it because it was woe is me post. Everyone's a critic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:16 PM
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Of course, and that's wrong. People who do fix being fat are the outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:12 PM
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Every military base in the world with women have redistributed their attraction because it favors then greatly. Somehow I doubt they wouldn't adjust it down in the same way under the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:05 PM
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As a left leaning democrat male, I'm surprised at the hypocriticalness of my fellow democrat women. This is exactly why I advocate for incels, they are an oppressed group like any other. They are victims of their circumstances. I would do the same for civil rights of all people. I fight to women's equality just as much as those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:00 PM
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Are they really losers or a woman's expectations too high? That's the rub, the majority of men aren't bad people and women have to talk themselves into thinking that way in order to feel less guilty of all the power she has. It's classic ego projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:56 PM
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You can fix being fat? Source? https://www.healthline.com/health-news/obese-people-have-slim-chance-of-obtaining-normal-body-weight-071615 The people that do are the outliers. This is based from.nhs records over a course of decades. I know that "you eat too much fatty" is the prevailing narrative on Reddit but it really hasn't been medical science for 20+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:49 PM
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Tinder data that involves 50 million people, over half the single people in the United States. After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. Source: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:42 PM
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I had the okcupid hacks down. There was a time you could sort by new. That was amateur stuff. How about this technique. This is a secret I held onto for many years and probably helped me get the few dates I did get. I did a "boost" on okcupid before it became a feature. You'd get little popups "so and so just viewed your profile". I sorted by last active. (Aka people were online). Then used a program to highlight 500 profiles at once thanks to okcupids infinite scroll. And then open all tabs. Ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 07:13 AM
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Lol at ugly people don't pay attention to their appearance I've obsessed with my appearance the second I hit puberty. 32 years ago. Somehow I bet you weren't even born then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:36 AM
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Being ugly and fat isn't doing anything wrong. That's the catch nobody explains. It's always you did something wrong. That's why incels develop mental problems. (I'm not one but that's the thing that drives them mental) That's what makes it a societal problem and not a personal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:24 AM
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Went to meetup, showered, wore nice clothes, met geeky shy girl, talked with her over a few meetups. Asked her out, she never showed up to a meetup again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:30 AM
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Nope. Midgrade popularity with guys. Women just never liked me because I had a fat guy body. It didn't matter what I did. It didn't matter I was a star player. I just didn't look like a star player.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:26 AM
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My Chadlite roommate was bringing home women that I would have given the side eye to. Would I have dated them? Probably. (I am the fattest guy on PPD) I swear one had to weigh twice as much as he did. She was like a more redneck older Rebel Wilson. Oh and he already has kids from two different women that he never sees and never talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:19 AM
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It's free with Amazon prime video.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:07 AM
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I knew you wouldn't. It's from a movie called Heathers. I promise you'll like it. it's about a girl who breaks into the popular clique in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:48 AM
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I climbed everest. In vr. Sitting down. Clicking to move. It's a cool website though. https://project360.mammut.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:14 AM
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I was stage manager and captain of the football team. No girlfriends. I didn't even go to prom. Stereotype fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:09 AM
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"No, Heather, It’s Heather’s Turn. Heather?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:53 AM
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I'm 44, how much longer should I wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:42 AM
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"Because he can" should be a good enough answer to satisfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:35 AM
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The "arousing in motion" essentially means the personality they are conveying through the picture. I argue that it has to do with the attractiveness of the person within the picture itself. If I take the exact pose of both examples as a slovenly fat guy my arousing in motion would be zero. I could pose myself in all kinds of ways and none of them would show an attractive person no matter what vibe I gave off. In Fact it would be humorous and embarasing because I'm trying to hold a position on wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:53 AM
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I was off and on okcupid from 2006-2016. I was so a regular on r/okcupid from 2012ish to 2016. I wasn't popular on r/okcupid because I liked to point out the data when people made false claims about dating in general. Sort of a proto- blackpill. So I've literally been arguing the validity of 80 20 since the beginning, hence the name. People told me I was crazy then, but with every release of data I was proven right again. So that is why I vigorously defend it. People have been trying to handwave…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:46 AM
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It isn't a study to begin with. Yet people keep using that word. It was never a study or a paper or dissertation. It was data published in a blog in 2009. It was recompiled for the okcupid book in 2014, it was also spoken about as Christian Rudder talked about it after the book was released and he went on a book tour. In 2009, okcupid had a star system for profiles. This included the feature of notification in which you are talking about. Before the book was released in 2014, the star system was…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:52 AM
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It's never touched on because when examined critically, it had little to no effect. When they removed that system, the data didn't change. Other websites never had that system (match and Tinder) and still had the same data pattern as okcupid. So the notifications had no effect. People had no problem rating someone 5 stars if they wanted to date them. The whole star system was antiquated anyway. Because it's a binary question at heart. Do I want to date this person or do I not want to date this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:29 AM
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If only there was the world most powerful search engine right at the tips of your fingers that would provide you with all the answers you seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:16 AM
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A 27 year old Toronto woman went missing, sadly we only have her Facebook photos so we don't know what she actually looks like. -Julie Kim
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:26 PM
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You treat attractive people better than they deserve. They are given more chances and benefit of the doubt when they make errors. An ugly person is strictly held accountable. Ugly people get higher sentences than attractive people for the same crime. If the attractive one doesn't get off completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:23 PM
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I love the japanese prison shank channel
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:19 PM
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All you do is play the lottery and you too can be rich like the last person who won.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:41 PM
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What else is there? You ask women and they flat out tell you they only see a few men out of a hundred attractive in their everyday life. It's not rocket science to prove that it isn't.pictures, it's.men as a whole. Or they are using astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:35 PM
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It was literally half the single people in the united states. He saw the data from tinder, okcupid, and match. Among them they cover over 50 million people. this excludes attractive people in relationships Christian Rudder thought of that. So he sent pictures from a social networking site (aka Facebook) and got the same results. This also subverts the idea that men take bad picture of themselves because I'm sure.many of those pictures were taken by women. All this is.in the book Dataclysm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:30 PM
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Reediting to explain: No matter what pose an unattractive person is in will give the vibes that women are talking about here. All I get from this post is attractive people sometimes out in low effort pictures. Not that women would suddenly fall in love with the general rabble if they posted pictures with a "vibe". In fact I think it would have the opposite effect, an unattractive person trying to show an attractive person vibe would be made fun of. There is a hierarchy and if unattractive people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:44 PM
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Dataclysm is the book that spawned from the blog posts that came out in 2014. Because of the popularity of the blog, there was a bidding war and Christian Rudder was paid seven figures to write the book. (And as far as I'm concerned, it's a lot clearer on data than a lot of the blog posts that everyone references) Tinder source: (better appreciate it I'm on mobile and it sucks) https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/ Hinge source: Aviv Goldgeier google his name and men yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:32 PM
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Also in Dataclysm there is a footnote that only .02 percent of messages went to people who weren't liked first
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:17 PM
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Okcupid book Dataclysm. Christian Rudder (the guy at okcupid behind all the blog posts) stated he saw the data from match and Tinder in Dataclysm. And they were the same. Tinder released their swipe rates later and it's slightly worse than okcupid for women. 14 percent of men were right swiped (vs 46 percent women). Hinge engineer (his name is in my other post)also corroborate s their data was the same on a blog post from 2ish years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:13 PM
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Match.com doesn't do that and has the same data. And it doesn't.make sense anyway, why wouldn't you rate highly someone you wanted to be contacted by? Oh and tinder has the same data and only works if you comatch. So the notifications had no effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:06 PM
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it's very likely that the men on OkCupid were below average compared to the general population Not true. Why? Christian Rudder tested it by sending a social networks pictures through okcupid and got the same results. Source: Dataclysm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:03 PM
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Yes because tinder came along on 2014, it had the same data. Hinge came along and had the same data. Match.com is as old as okcupid and they had the same data too. Source: Dataclysm Hinge source: Aviv Goldgeier engineer at hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:00 PM
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Lol not statistically representative? It's direct data from the source, not 200 college kids on a campus somewhere. Also it isn't WEIRD. (Google it) It is literally based on half the single people in the united states.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:50 PM
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Are people who have fwbs having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 01:00 AM
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I'm the fattest guy is the survey so it's safe to say I'm in the bottom 5 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:45 AM
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It's not a study. It's data. If you are so interested you should read Dataclysm, it clears up a lot of the misconceptions. For example the footnote that states people don't message people they don't "like". Only .02 percent of messages go to people they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:43 AM
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Lolol female delusion calculator I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:45 PM
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After awhile for a guy it's like throwing .messages in a bottle in the ocean. You keep writing and throwing but you never get a reply. So this is when the madness sets in. You start writing messages to provoke a response. Any response. So that's why it happens. It isn't serious or threatening, it's a temporary psychosis by the feeling of it all being futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:40 PM
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Which came first? Women being unreasonable picky or men becoming psychotic over it? You see none of these crazy psychos walking around yet you treat them when they are behind a computer screen like their different. Guess what? Every guy you ever dated has probably been one of those psycho guys to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:06 PM
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Why would you abbreviate the name of a show without referring to it's name? Especially if you are recommending others to watch. People who do that infuriate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:54 PM
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People call out blackpill for being negative and nihilistic. But yet it is completely acceptable for women to think 90 percent of men are horrible human beings, sex crazed maniacs, and treat them like spam. The vast majority of people are good people and are completely worthy of women's attention. It's your deranged views of people that are the problem. That's the problem, women have unrealistic expectations and don't have realistic views on the vast majority of men on earth. There are so many g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:29 PM
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Is a man wrong in saying he is a 5 out of 10 if he is in the middle of attractiveness of all men? That's the problem with "men overrate themselves". Are they really? Or is it because of the unusual way women rate men rather then men thinking too highly of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:56 PM
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Alright, she didn't talk much after the date so I took my cue and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:21 PM
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Which is right? A man in the middle of attractiveness, 50 percentile, rating himself a 5 out of 10? Or a woman rating a man in the middle of attractiveness, 50 percentile, a 2.5 out of 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:17 PM
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Yes 6ft 330
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:12 PM
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I'm not in Kalamazoo. I said within that area. It seemed like a nice central location to Detroit Chicago and other metros. I lived in Philadelphia for most of my life, and I posted the same challenge there. I had 1 person take me up on the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:06 PM
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I am the fattest who answered the survey, because my weight was the highest number. Last I checked I'm a guy and I have a really wide net
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:02 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/orb8w2/comment/h6hbmmf/ Lilith: "And you guys also only a consider an incredibly small subsection of women" Well I'll put my money where my mouth is. In order to disprove this claim, I, the fattest guy on PPD, would like to offer a date to any woman within 500 miles of Kalamazoo, Michigan. There are at least 5 major metro areas that encompass that area. I will drive to you. Yes, I would like to date you. For a relationship. Not sex. I'm looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:50 PM
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Yeah because they kill themselves at record rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:38 PM
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Women only swipe right on 14 percent of men on tinder. Men 46 percent. She can't talk to men she doesn't swipe right on. Thus women are far more picky than men. Period. This point is so rock solid I don't know why people argue against it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:18 PM
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I know that show. And the shocked look of the women when all the "average" men walked into the room is worth digging up the series.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:14 PM
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Shotgun strategy was determined to be just as effective as individual personalized messages because of the amount of time it takes to shotgun vs write something personalized. Christian Rudder looked at the data and determined this in the book Dataclysm. So you're wrong about the shotgun approach. This also is in line with what you say doesn't really matter, it's your picture that really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:10 PM
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Christian Rudder the Harvard math graduate who wrote all those blog entries, took photos from a social networking site and ran them through okcupid. Pictures not taken by men of men Married people who never used online dating Attractive people who would never consider using online dating He got the same results for the social network group as he did with the okcupid group. Thus the okcupid group is no different than anyone else who uses the internet. So you're just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:02 PM
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Because if you examine the odds of actually losing a dramatic amount of weight, it's rare. Google odds of losing weight nhs health records.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:57 PM
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Because you can't read the graph that show men messaged everyone including ugly women and women messaged no one but the top 15 percent of men? Yes men also shoot for their ideal women. That's why there is a huge spike for ideal women. But you are ignoring the rest of the graph where it shows men messaging women as a lesser rate than ideal, but not solely their ideal. Yet women are clearly shown that they solely message the top men. Your entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:47 PM
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It's not a study, it direct data. And it isn't flawed, it's just really inconvenient to a lot of people's arguments so they try to say things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:39 PM
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Christian Rudder ran a social networking pictures through okcupid to see if okcupid users were just ugly. He got the same result. Source: Dataclysm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:37 PM
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Sigh-not true. https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg Women swipe right on 14 percent of men on tinder. You can't talk to people on tinder of you don't swipe right on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:35 PM
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The Ashley Madison hack revealed that there are only 5000 active women accounts compared to over a million men accounts in the same time frame. I won't say most dating sites are scams, but Ashley Madison is definitely one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:29 PM
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Astronomy (ndt, others), history (WWII, roman, revolutionary), psychology (Dan Areily, you are not so smart) Shipwrecks, tall ships Nerd stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:21 PM
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Ignoring millions of years of evolutionary pressure to put on weight during feast and famine cycles isn't withdrawal. For example hold your breath until you pass out. No matter how hard you try you can't make yourself pass out. No amount of willpower will affect your body to control your need to breathe. It's a similar evolutionary process. It's just as old as the need to eat when you feel hungry. Fat people just have different levels than hunger than you do. Why is that so hard to understand? W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:51 PM
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And those who are genetically gifted are unaffected by the obesogenic environment. You can be genetically predisposed to be thin too, rather than being some elite master of self control. Identical twins raised apart usually come within a few pounds of each other, funny how people raised completely differently match weight telepathically. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199005243222102 https://youtu.be/o-vMrrZA3cM https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2015.302773
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:45 PM
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It's easiest to tell in adoption studies. Adopted children look more like their biological parents bodyweight and not the adoptive parents. If you were in control of this, the reverse would be true. But it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:49 AM
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But the more you know about obesity science, the more you realize it isn't a self inflicted one, contrary to fatpeoplehate and fatlogic disciples. They are still stuck in the past and science has progressed beyond, "you eat too much fatty."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:49 PM
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As the fattest person on the ppd survey, yes, yes it does. There is no female version of reluctantly red. If they do it's usually high status or rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:45 PM
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Tinder reported a 60:40 userbase when they reported those numbers. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:55 PM
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It from 2009 and the book from 2014 with further explanation supersedes this information. In Dataclysm find the footnote that says only .02 messages go people who haven't been liked by the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:22 PM
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Hi I'm my name is George, I'm unemployed and live with my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:46 PM
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Lol matches
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:43 PM
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Look, I can copy and paste too. https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg Please explain this graph. This was in dataclysm. The okcupid book put out by the same author as the blog. And why do tinder right swipes only go to 14 percent of men? If women were more varied they wouldn't be concentrating on the same men. If women did what you said women do the tinder statistics would be more like men's. But it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:31 PM
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You said it, if the efficiency differs, are you really in control if two people eat the same thing differs? That's why it's a more complex question then just a straight formula.. If one person is satiated with less food is it really willpower? It's bullshit. You aren't some master of self control. Your body regulates your bodyweight by genetics. Your genetics determines your body size and your body fights itself to keep it that way. Good and bad. Yeah I response to exercise is also genetically b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:56 AM
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We have words when the majority of women think a guy isn't for them. Undesirable. Unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:20 PM
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In dataclysm, the okcupid book written by the founder who used to do the blog posts, he tested out the efficacy of the website because he had the realization that people might be meeting despite his website and not because of it. He tested it out and found that indeed the website helped. It's an interesting chapter on the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:17 PM
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It was accounted for in the national data cities frequently by incels. It was among heterosexual men. They are a strict minority anyway as has already been pointed out. It might sway it a point or two at most and that's being generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:57 PM
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It did matter with the women. My friend who had a conventionally attractive body couldn't do half the things I was doing. But he looked athletic and that all that mattered, being actually athletic didn't matter. And fick off with the calories in and calories out nonsense. If you know anything about obesity science you know they disproved that shit years ago. They locked a bunch of people up and feed them the same thing people responded differently to the same calorie intake. Some people gained n…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:50 PM
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Honestly? Never mind that a decent chink of these supposedly sexless men are in fact gay or asexual men, whose sex lives do not include women for obvious reasons... Mordin: arrogant tone Please, Shepard. Social, environmental concerns accounted for. Not an undergraduate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:15 PM
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Working out doesn't automatically give you good body. I know as I worked out more than 99 percent of my peers but I never had a good body to show for it. I was just a faster and stronger fat guy. I could beat people 100 pounds lighter in sprint and distance. Jump higher, lift more... Even in arm wrestling I was only beat by a guy who was 6"5 and 300lbs. Nobody else even came close. Genetics just fucks some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:09 PM
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6ft 330lbs My parents are dead thanks much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:47 AM
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If you are kind and patient maybe he has a rip roaring personality that is dying to get out. My ex-wife helped me so much and I was a lot like this guy. Now I am shy but I can talk myself into talking to anyone. Just being accepted by one person really helped this process along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:09 AM
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Ask him out? It isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:18 AM
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It's an okcupid graph not tinder. Okcupid claims a 60:40 m to f userbase The third party analytics have skewed data that says men far outnumber women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:14 PM
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85 percent of men receive less than 0 messages a week. That's what it means. So this whole women give chances to ugly men just isn't reality. This is backed up by tinder, you can't message someone unless you mutually match with them and yet women are only at 14 percent right swipes. That's why her whole narrative just isn't true. Okcupid isn't lying. But they ignored the massive head start women get by just the nature of how badly women rate men, then applauded women as reaching out only a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:11 PM
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You only see those that show you. Anyone who's shows you is going to be better looking than average because otherwise they would be too embarrassed to show you. You only see the most attractive incels because they are the only ones who would dare show anyone their picture. Aka survivorship bias
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:52 PM
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https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg Please explain this graph. This was in dataclysm. The okcupid book put out by the same author as the blog. And why do tinder right swipes only go to 14 percent of men? If women were more varied they wouldn't be concentrating on the same men. If women did what you said women do the tinder statistics would be more like men's. But it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:34 PM
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Could you have 5 dates every hour on the hour tomorrow if you wanted to? Hence my point, if you want dates, you get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:20 AM
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That's the thing, you aren't even aware of how much of a freak of nature they have to be to make into the UFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:17 AM
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its around the same that it always has been 60-40. The problem is people don't understand the difference between analytic numbers by a third party and the number put about by dating sites themselves. The problem is Chad doesn't go on one date a week, he goes on three dates a week while he is dumping and wooing another girl. You know, they call that a rotation. While girls might set up three dates on three separate weeks. And disable account. Chad will have been through 15 in that same amount of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:59 AM
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They've released those numbers and it's always 60-40ish. m to f. ​ it's just everyone gets so hyped up on analytic numbers not from the websites themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:58 AM
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Howard Stern's wife is a former model and she didn't know people paid for ice cream, because the guy running the booths would always give it to her for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:21 AM
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How many women are sitting in their cushy office jobs while reading PPD? ​ *crickets* ​ I do 15 minutes a week of actual work- Peter Gibbons
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:19 AM
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Men's Looks Matter More Than Women Admit, Study Shows
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:16 AM
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Genetics. That's why most people hit the wall not because they didn't work for it. You can workout all you like and you will never be the top 1 percent of 1 percent. That is why only freaks of nature do well in the UFC and not the people who work the hardest. Do you think Jon Jones has willpower? Obviously not because he keeps fucking up and leaving million on the table. Yet he is a gifted fighter. Genetics genetic genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:14 AM
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Women have no need to stay on dating apps. That's why there are more men than women. Women select who they want and disable the app after they line up a bunch of dates. Women have no reason to hang out on dating apps because they get what they want right away. Dates. As many as they want without restriction. So it's an illusion that men like dating apps more than women. It's just women get more fulfillment, an instant gratification with dozens of men (mostly chad) while most men just languish on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:08 AM
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Women drastically underestimate men's ambitions outside of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 07:10 PM
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How does this graph make sense if what you say is true? from the okcupid book Dataclysm: https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg And if what you are saying is true Tinder wouldn't have worse data than okcupid. But it does. (you can't message someone you don't match with) After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 06:48 PM
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AM I supposed to say no to my one date every other year?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:34 PM
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You better look at my graph again. https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg The lowest of the low women gets many more messages than 90 percent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:20 AM
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Okcupid has a vested interest in not pissing off their already valuable female clientele. The problem is the way okcupid explains it contradicts the evidence. Even the author of the blog post wrote the same book I am sourcing from. If it worked the way you said it did the tinder data would be different. You just can wave that away like it doesn't matter. It exactly fits the reverse of what you are copy and pasting. No where is this "women message ugly guys" phenomena show itself in the data. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:13 AM
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I was a regular on r/okcupid during it's golden years. From 2011-2016 ish. During this time I wrote 1500 personalize messages to women. My formula was this, introduction, reason why I wrote usually a common interest. I tried to relate a funny joke to it or give some anecdote about my life. I'd invite them to check out my profile. In which I had a fully vetted profile with clear pictures. I ended with an open ended questions about them. For my efforts I received about 1 date every two years. I ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:18 PM
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Except that isn't what the data says. If you read the okcupid book, you can clearly see the difference. The okcupid blog post tried to put a positive spin on it because they realize how bad it looked. Women are much worse than men and it isn't even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:07 PM
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How does this graph make sense if what you say is true? from the okcupid book Dataclysm: https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg ​ My interpetation: Men message their ideal candidate along with realistic candidates. Women message Chad only.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:30 AM
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They aren't surveys. ​ They are the real clicks of people looking to date. It's data. Not studies, not surveys either. ​ It's direct data. ​ And it has been replicated in actual journals: ​ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image%20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=4043335_nihms-532398-f0002.jpg ​ from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:22 AM
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Secondary source that proves you misinterpreted the okcupid data: ​ Published study: The bottom tier of woman less than 20 percent of attractiveness reaches out for a top 40 percent of man. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar desirability leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:14 AM
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Except Tinder contradicts everything posted here. On Tinder, if you don't swipe right, you are unable to message the person unless you both match. ​ **If what okcupid says is true, women would swipe right on a greater amount of men on Tinder because they would be unable to message and receive messages from them otherwise.*\* ​ **Women swipe right on 14 percent of men, which is even worse than the okcupid data.*\* Men swipe right on 46 percent of women. ​ >After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO S…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:11 AM
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outdoor cats kill a 2 billion birds a year. 12 billion small animals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 06:27 AM
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if you just learned about the black pill recently, you don't know average men, only above average men who you think are average men. ​ you're skewed in your bias and don't even see most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:13 AM
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Thank the Republicans that dismantled the national mental health institutions in the 50s,60s, and 70s. Mentally ill people who can't take care of themselves now end up on the streets instead of these institutions that used to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:27 AM
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Is obesity a choice? That gets thrown around a lot, but does science agree with you? ​ https://youtu.be/TS9bKKYIaFk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:21 AM
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Dataclysm... well that's just your opinion man unless I see proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:57 AM
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> As a photographer, I can promise you most men are terrible at taking photos, and unless you know what you're doing the typical photo will not represent how you look in real life due to limited dynamic range, lense distortion, perspective distortion, compression, and other mistakes people tend to make when taking photos with camera phones. Even professionals with good cameras and lighting will take many pictures of a subject to get the one makes them look good. Well first off you have to prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:32 AM
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No where did I use the word study. Except the one actual study I linked. I use the word data. You keep asking questions that can be answered by taking a statistics class. You don't seem to understand how math works on this level. Many of the question you asked is in the text of the published study I linked. Many of the questions you have are in the book and on the okcupid blog posts that are discussed here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:11 AM
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Yes, it was big data published in a book called Dataclysm. It should be called the okcupid data and not study.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:10 AM
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This is from the okcupid book Dataclysm. https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:08 AM
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okcupid is a very old dating site. it started in 2004 and this data was published in 2014. That is 10 years of data. In more recent published studies (2017) has the same 80 20 graph as well. Christian Rudder also saw the data from Tinder, which wasn't publicly available once the book was published. And okcupid was bought out by match.com in which Christian also saw those numbers. He explains this in Dataclysm. That's why he puts the number at 50 million people. He saw the data from many sites ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:54 AM
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The okcupid book has the population size. 50 million people, half the single population of the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 02:10 AM
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What about couples with similar education levels? Yue Qian: For the most part, the tendency for women to marry up in income was greater among couples who shared the same education level: When compared with couples in which the wife had less education than the husband, the tendency for women to marry up in income was 54 percent higher among couples in which both spouses had a high school education, 31 percent higher among couples in which both spouses had some college education, and 23 percent hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:07 AM
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70 percent of men have had sex, but I bet the number of men who had the sex they wanted with the person they wanted is much much lower. A guy banging a fat chick because it's his only choice isn't the same as women who have their every desire met the second they want it to be. Both men and women have sex, but women get what they want at a far higher rate. A man who has a foot fetish might never find a girl who has a foot fetish and he still might have sex, but never feel fulfilled. A women who h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:23 PM
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that's only because you don't count dead people anymore as single. Men literally have to die off in a huge number to make things even.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:05 PM
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Yes, equality only applies to things women care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:28 AM
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You forgot to continue, and only Chad is worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:27 AM
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The problem is men will rate a 50 percentile man, a man who is in the middle of attractiveness, 50 percent of men are better looking than him, and 50 percent of men are worse looking than him as a 5 out 10. And why shouldn't he? He has just as many men above him and below him. That's kinda how math works. Women on the other hand rate a 50 percentile man a 2.5/10. Meaning there are a lot of men around 2.5 and a very small amount of men above 5/10. So that's why any unnormalized data is completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:15 AM
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That's a major symptom of diabetes. Get your bloodsugar checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 12:10 PM
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Women have no need to stay on dating apps. That's why there are more men than women. Women select who they want and disable the app after they line up a bunch of dates. Women have no reason to hang out on dating apps because they get what they want right away. Dates. As many as they want without restriction. So it's an illusion that men like dating apps more than women. It's just women get more fulfillment, an instant gratification with dozens of men (mostly chad) while most men just languish on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:01 AM
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In this study 20 percent of men received no messages at all and contradicts your assertion. ​ The bottom tier of woman less than 20 percent of attractiveness reaches out for a top 40 percent of man. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar desirabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:25 AM
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That would make sense, but it matches non-online dating experiments too. So you can't say it is some anomaly of online dating when other experiments with real life interactions have the same results. So it does show the true nature of women, you just don't like it. unless you were silly enough to propose that the disparity is due to women finding matches quickly and don’t stay online. that's exactly what I said. She lines up dates and gets off the dating app. Why get more matches when you alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:58 AM
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It isn't equal at all because of how men and women rate each other. The problem is that women think 80 percent of men aren't attractive. This is what skews your data. So a middle of the road middle man is always reaching up. A man who is 50 percentile is seen as reaching up to a woman who is 50 percentile. While a 50 percentile woman reaches up to the 75 percentile man is seen as equal being of how poorly they rate men. Both are equally "reaching up" because of the unrealistic way women rate men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:52 AM
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> The average male sent about 2.5 times as many messages than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:43 PM
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80/20 started long before Tinder was a glint in its creators eye. The okcupid/match data goes back to pre-smartphone 2004. You know before swiping became a thing. It was based on rating people individually on personality and looks. (till they realized looks=personality) The gender disparity is because women get on Tinder, line up a bunch of dates and get off Tinder. While many many men languish on Tinder for years. The gender disparity is direct evidence of the problem 80-20 not against it. ​ > …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:39 PM
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Show me where the big meanie touched you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:02 AM
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Virginity is overrated. It means nothing. Fuck whoever whenever you want. Don't feel guilty about it ever. Religion has corrupted you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:12 AM
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I saw this beautiful girl with the curliest hair ever and I noticed she had hair coming out the cuff of her sleeve. It's been nearly 25 years since I've seen her, and everytime I sit down at a desktop computer I think of her. csb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:54 AM
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There should be a rule if you are going to cite statistics you should show your sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:49 AM
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Take your male "poor profile" and put a good looking guy picture but leave all your nerd hobbies, interests, etc the same. Suddenly you become the most interesting person in the world and has nothing to do with your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:03 AM
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It's isn't pseudoscientific. It's literally the largest dataset on a direct measurement of dating ever. It was published in a book that has won numerous awards. It was compiled by a Harvard mathematics graduate. It is literally lauded as the book for big data. Okcupid / Tinder / match.com data is 15+ years old and hasn't changed in that entire time. It's also based on half the single people in the United States. 50+ million people. The okcupid data is infinitely better because there is no hiding…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:00 AM
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Yep, poor people shouldn't be poor. Start being rich, that's the solution. Black people shouldn't be black. Women should stop being women. Any systematic problem is just solved by working harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:49 AM
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Okcupid was bought by match. Christian Rudder mentioned in the book he saw the data for match.com and it was no different than Okcupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:47 AM
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Samantha > Amanda She's so hot it's distracting sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:31 AM
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Tinder is three times the size of okcupid. Why don't Tinder women swipe right on the ugly okcupid guys on Tinder that they are supposedly messaging? They aren't. IF what you said was true. Tinder would show more matches, not less. You're misinterpreting the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:00 PM
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After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's **50 million users**, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. https://www.cnet.com/news/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/ Published study: The bottom tier of woman less than 20 percent of attractiveness reaches out for a top 40 percent of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:45 PM
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Anna Kendrick, I guess she is a a Kristen Bell type, but I don't know Kristen well. Anna is super talented. She self-deprecating. She's funny. She's down to earth. She's a redditor. ​ Those type of girls never like me though, I'm a big fat guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:39 AM
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Most women will too, just at a higher standard of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:57 AM
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It's representative of nearly 20 million women. ​ Where are these women hiding that are so different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:55 AM
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Sure, we call them twitch streamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:14 AM
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I've dated in Grand Rapids Michigan, and Philadelphia Pennsylvania. I'm not Chad, I'm a very low tier normie at best. Philadelphia is better, yes, there is more competition, there are also more women in general. More women in general is a better thing than less quality women and me being perceived as better quality in a smaller city. Chads are everywhere and will monopolize women. You will get compared to him no matter where you are because women have television and internet. You only get a chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 07:29 PM
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New experiment, how many matches does Chad get with a huge duce in the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:58 PM
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I never held up a dead fish or posed with my shirt off and I still get no matches on Tinder/Bumble. I did a lot better on okcupid back when that was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:55 PM
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I wish people would stop saying things like incels are average looking. That's isn't true. Only the most attractive incel would dare put his picture online. You're falling for survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:07 PM
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A few weeks ago, there was a domestic thing going on outside my window. They were yelling and threatening each other. 2 women and 1 guy. I called the police when they started throwing stuff at each other and getting into cars threatening to ram into them. One got into one car and drove off. The 2nd one got into a 2nd car and drove off. The 3rd one got into a 3rd car and drove off. The police then showed up and told them what I had seen/heard. The 2nd one drove up and talked with the police offic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:47 PM
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The first one is just facial attractiveness. The 2nd one actually agrees with the pickiness of women, while yes, they have a wider variance in who is attractive or not, they have a much smaller group in which they actually want to date. Here is a link to the actual paper One of questions was who they actually wanted to date. So having a more open interpretation of who is attractive is pretty useless if you don't want to date them. (plus this study is 15 years old at this point)... and it used on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 04:22 AM
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Whatever. You're going more psychological flips than Nadia Comăneci.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 03:14 AM
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okcupid was _the_ leftwing progressive site for dating. The problem is that the users tend to say one thing and do another. There was a question that asked "would you date someone who had a strong racial preference?" 80 percent said no. Very progressive. However if you looked at who the okcupid users clicked on, it showed a strong racial preference for who they actually clicked. They said they wouldn't date a racist, but by their clicks showed them being actively racist themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 03:10 AM
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Except you just did above: . Or maybe OkCupid’s samples consisted of mostly suboptimal photos of men (who are notoriously bad at dating photos to begin with, possibly because they DON’T care about advertising looks as much which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:57 AM
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It was reviewed in the new York times and a best seller. The author (who graduated from Harvard with a math degree) gave talks at Google and was interviewed by NPR. He was also profiled by The New Yorker. The data released by OkCupid is the largest amount of data released about dating ever. It isn't even close. Most studies are based on few hundred college students. It's also backed up by other, newer dating systems. You haven't linked any contrary evidence, you've just been flailing about sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:53 AM
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The point is they are no better or worse than normal photos. The photos of okcupid are no better or any worse than anywhere else. Show me that the quality of photos matter and not the subject in the photos and then maybe I'll believe you. Some attractive men use shirtless selfies and get what they want. They might not get the churchgirl with those photos, but shirtless guy is getting more attention than incel man. Incel man could leave his shirt on his photos, have no photos with a dead fish and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:37 AM
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The problem is Christian Rudder saw the data for match.com and it was the same. All dating sites are hookup sites or none of them are because they all have the same data. sites like match which are supposed to be for marrying have the same data as datehookup.com. If one sites had different criteria, the data should skew different, but it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:34 AM
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It's better to be Hitler than it is to be a kind person. Incel-message received.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:54 PM
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Most incels would never post their pictures. You only see pictures from the most picturesque incels. Survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:49 PM
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most incels aren’t ugly. You haven't seen the pictures of most incels, just the most attractive ones who post them. That's survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:39 PM
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First you have to tell me what anecdotal data is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:28 PM
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The okcupid book on big data was published. Dataclysm is very well regarded. ​ So it goes a little further than just a blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:17 PM
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Tinder doesn't do that. Same results. (In fact it's a little worse results)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:15 PM
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Or maybe OkCupid’s samples consisted of mostly suboptimal photos of men (who are notoriously bad at dating photos to begin with, possibly because they DON’T care about advertising looks as much Christian Rudder took photos off of facebook and ran them through okcupid and got the same results. So the photos weren't worse. That's just a claim that you've shown no evidence for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:13 PM
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The okcupid thing was based on half the single people in the United States over a 10 year period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:09 PM
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Played all sports growing up. Soccer, football, baseball, basketball, street hockey. Two sport athlete. (American)Football and baseball. Voted mvp for my baseball team. Cleanup centerfielder. 3 year varsity starter in football. Captain of the football team. 2 year All-star at two different positions. Named all city top 50 players in Philadelphia. I could almost dunk a basketball at 6' 260lbs. Broke my school's record for the long jump. Didn't go to any of my proms. Wasn't popular with girls. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:09 AM
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Why is it garbage? The book Dataclysm is very respected. It was reviewed in the new York times and a best seller. The author (who graduated from Harvard with a math degree) gave talks at Google and was interviewed by NPR. He was also profiled by The New Yorker. The data released by OkCupid is the largest amount of data released about dating ever. It isn't even close. It's also backed up by other, newer dating systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 06:56 AM
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about weight loss: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/i0s9un/is_there_a_difference_between_having_a_height/fzsrpu6/ if you want sources for the twin studies and adoption studies I have them. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hythmg/we_all_know_the_infamous_okc_study_where_women/fzo9pu6/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hybkls/weekly_community_chat_megathread_26_july_2020/fzjfjuo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hythmg/we_all_k…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:39 AM
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Yes I do. I just don't post the sources every single time because it would spam up the forum. Anytime someone asks for sources I post them and whenever someone who is asking a legitimate question (someone who isn't a recognizable name who always ignores the sources) I post them up. Some people ignore the sources and repeat the same thing over and over again. I know they've seen the sources and just don't care. I have a three year posting history here. If you are only going to go back a little wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:04 PM
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We don't trust your evaluation of the men you dated. Your biased. That's the problem. You can say you dated a certain type, but all women think like that but under statistical scrutiny, it doesn't turn out that way. Women ignore a huge swath of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:57 PM
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Both those groups make choices to be what they are. Incels have society's choices thrust upon them and it affects them in a very negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 12:47 AM
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I'm not an incel, I've been married and had a kid. I'm constantly defending them despite not actually being one. (hence the name and the title)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:16 AM
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Incels as a group and their advise is harmful to men's well being and inspires men to violence against women. Incels repeatedly tell eachother that therapy is useless. Incels repeatedly tell eachother that there is no hope for them. Incels repeatedly tell eachother that all women are evil. Incels may not be wrong that men can suffer or that men can have emotions, but they way they encourage their cult to handle those issues is down right dangerous. And not a single one of those is their fault. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:10 AM
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not to mention a guy gets sex once and thus all his problem as now solved? There are no statistics for that. How many not sexless men are completely and utter unsatisfied with how things are?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:05 AM
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and tinder, and datehookup, and match.com and hinge only 40 million people, no biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:02 AM
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Yeah, 90 percent of my posts I back up with science sources negated by people who have friends that totally disprove my sources. I'm horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 12:59 AM
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When I said "Women" I wasn't referring to this subreddit or any moderator directly, I was talking about women general rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:28 PM
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Science doesn't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:24 PM
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I don't care about the sex of the person who banned the content. It's irrelevant. I care about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:23 PM
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Eat less and move more has been the mantra the entire time we've had record obesity. That shows that it isn't effective and that there is something else is causing it. People talk about genetics haven't changed in the past 60 years. I agree. But why do we wholeheartedly accept that willpower has drastically changed in the past 60 years? The average fat kid has a hundred times the information than a thin kid did 60 years ago. We've misattributed the problem as a personal problem. There is somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:18 PM
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So what? Who cares what any one person does? That's the problem. Your anecdote doesn't override the evidence. In history nobody cared about health and eating, yet they were thin. All we do is talk about health and fitness and we are fat? That shows there is more going on then just simple willpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:05 PM
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Like I said, do you have a choice to breathe? Choose to hold your breath and pass out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:01 PM
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Share this evidence disproving thermodynamics Where did I say it disproved thermodynamics? Something in your control and not in your control has nothing to do with thermodynamics. But since parents teach good habits, how come the fat kid didn't pick up those good habits? That's because it's genetic. Like I said above, it's measured and it's 70 percent heritable and height is 80 percent heritable. There is no evidence that willpower has anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:00 PM
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The odds of a fat person losing weight by current advice is the same as a poor person playing the lottery to get rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:55 PM
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Except willpower has nothing to do with it. People who have no willpower are thin. Eating labs have measured willpower and have determined it isn't a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:53 PM
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Evidence doesn't support that claim. That's the problem. If's a choice why do fat kids from fat parents end up fat when adopted with thin parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:51 PM
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Bodies are more than thermodynamics though. For example, you can't hold your breath until you pass out. It's physically impossible to do it. You can "choose" to do it all you want but in the end the body does what it wants. The problem is personal choice can't override body physiology in some cases. People bodies are different and that's why we fail and not because people don't have the willpower. Willpower is just an easy out for people's bodies who do work in a certain way to give themselves a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:47 PM
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First you need to prove that permanent change of lifestyle is possible. Just because one person does it, isn't evidence that all people can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:40 PM
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I gave you the statistics. Why don't you get rich by buying lottery tickets? Everyone has to win sometime. Right? That's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:38 PM
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As if we all had different bodies or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:36 PM
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Women: Men, you should open up and discuss your feelings more! Women: Bans any feelings men have. Internet: Incels aren't an organized group. They need to organize themselves to come up with a consistent message and help themselves. Internet: Bans incel groups. Incels are like any other oppressed group. It's easy to bully and come down on them. /r/conspiracy has hurt more people than /r/incels ever have. First they ignore you, then they dismiss you, then they ban you, the moderator frustration i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:18 PM
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I know what all the reddit doctors say, but that is a myth that is rather prevalent and hasn't been a part of actual weight loss science for 20 years. If you look at large statistical groups, say all the fat people in the UKs National Health System, the actual statistics say it is very hard to lose any significant weight, those that do are very rare. The chance of an obese person attaining normal body weight is 1 in 210 for men and 1 in 124 for women, increasing to 1 in 1,290 for men and 1 in 67…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:36 PM
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Yes men have a weight preference and women have a height and weight preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:23 PM
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Except OkCupid has data from all of the literal world. And none of it is any different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:21 PM
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Except OkCupid has data from women around the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:19 PM
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From the OkCupid data, you would need 30 women in a room and that would get you the data based on 40 million users. So yeah 30 women in a room and you would get perfect agreement on what is attractive. They would pick 20 out of 100. You need to learn more about statistics and science. You aren't the unique rosebud you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:23 PM
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Uh, that graph is from the OkCupid book. Now you are just ignoring what is right in front of you. It clearly shows women only message the top 20 percent of men. You know what a sample size is correct? That is exactly what a sample size does. It is specifically designed to be extrapolated to all of humanity. That is the whole point of a sample size. It is the mathematical basis on which all statistical science is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:19 PM
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Online dating is the #1 way people meet now. The ratings are based off 40 million ratings. Half the single people in the United States. The people who date offline aren't different than the people online and you have no data to support that. It only takes under 30 ratings to figure out where someone falls among the 40 million ratings. People agree on what is attractive and what isn't. Like I said, the science is sound, you can choose to ignore it, but that doesn't make it any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:32 PM
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Just because you don't use a rating system consciously that doesn't mean you don't unconsciously use one. Everything is quantified if you want to believe it or not. You can ignore science all you want, that doesn't make it less true. All males don't want 22 year old supermodels. None of the data indicates that. OkCupid came out with what looks best to males and it was women in that age range. You need to keep reading the original article where that came from. He messages them AND older. In fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:28 PM
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At age like 65, it actually becomes equal... Because a lot of men die before then. That's what it takes for "equal".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:48 PM
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The fact that women message men that they think aren't all that great doesn't change the fact they still message a small amount of men. They have a significant advantage inherently by the way they rate men and then they message even better men then that. It's being born on 3rd base and then wanting a home run. That doesn't disprove the argument either A female 5 out of 10 doesn't want her mathematical match. A 50 percentile woman doesn't want a 50 percentile man. A 2.5 out of 10 man is the 50 pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:18 PM
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And match And speed dating. That supports my argument doesn't detract from it. It's a myth that one app is a hookup app while another one isn't. Women want the same men regardless of the app or website they use. Like I said, the few men who do that doesn't detract from the mountains of men who didn't. And the systems that didn't even have that ability that preceded any swiping system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:05 PM
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Lie detectors aren't real. https://youtu.be/nyDMoGjKvNk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:04 PM
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Before swipe existed the same data applied. OkCupid had no swiping system in the past. There is no evidence that the few men who swipe on everyone changed the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:45 PM
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Like I said, if that mattered, tinders data would be different because it's never had such a system. In fact, tinders data is a little worse than okcupid's even. 14 of women swipe right, while okcupid's equivalent was 20. So if that were true, Tinders system would be better. But it isn't. And match had the same data too without any such system. Even speed dating has the same data removing pictures, computers, and contact from the equation entirely. It is just a fact you can't handwave away. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:43 PM
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Going Clear Leha Remini's A&E show don't read anything about it. Kumare
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:51 PM
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mbti is the zodiac for pseudo-psychologists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQqSnkI32A
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:43 PM
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When women rate men 80 percent worse than average for attractiveness, they are the ones not giving the average man a shot, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:39 PM
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Women should look in the mirror and see the atomic blackpill. Google that. Guy basically admits to fucking kids and being in prison for it. Women promptly ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:38 PM
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speed dating isn't still pictures... and they get the same data. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26172314
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:18 PM
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articipants were asked to rate pictures from 1 to 5, but not told that they should rate what they considered an average looking individual 3; they were just told to rate it from 1 to 5 with no further indication of those numbers. Participants were told no such thing. No criteria was given. And it wasn't just pictures, it was entire profiles from 2004-2012 until Tinder came along and they started copying Tinder with a swiping system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:17 PM
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It wasn't a study or a poll. It is direct data from the website. 40+ million people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:15 PM
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It wasn't a poll and it wasn't just faces. From 2004-2012ish it was full profiles and all their pictures on a website. About 2014ish they started copying tinder and started doing the whole swiping thing. So you are factually wrong about it being only faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:12 PM
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except all the other data from other sites are exactly the same, so it didn't. people have unconscious bias. what they say they do and what they actually do aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:54 PM
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other dating sites that didn't have this functionality had the same results as okcupid. so that didn't make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 04:53 AM
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I pretty much never date men who are as attractive as me, but for different reasons. I hear women say this a lot, but in practice I think they are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 07:34 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/978wbt/what_is_considered_high_standards_when_it_comes/e49cxrw/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/748ytz/cmv_incels_and_black_pillers_dont_have_a_single/dnxgtx3/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6ra9ay/cmv_there_is_no_free_sex_no_one_gets_sex_handed/dl9g5mm/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5qihmk/cmvchallenge_men_who_claim_that_constant/dd1g1yo/?context=3 I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:54 PM
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You didn't read the source otherwise you would know the sample size for men and women. and your math is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:44 PM
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https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/female-messaging-curve.png I don't know why people pull this out as evidence that women aren't hypergamous. If anything it shows women who are already on 3rd base want credit for a home run. Their massive advantage in just how they are rated vs men, and even that isn't good enough for them, the reach out EVEN FURTHER.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:43 PM
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There’s also data on how men tend to overestimate how they look, As we have discussed many times before, that is a a symptom of women rating men so poorly. Ask a man how attractive he is, he'll estimate where he is among all men. A man in the middle will say he is a 5 out of 10. Namely half of men are more attractive than him, and half of men are less attractive than him. Women come along and rate him a 2.5 out of 10. Which is in the middle of mens attractiveness ratings when women rate men. Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:14 PM
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Justneckbeardthings is a subreddit exclusively bullying unattractive men. As a result of being unattractive these men also have exasperated mental health issues. It's an allowable bullying subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:39 PM
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Anytime women use the term "men" you can replace it with "the men I care about". Because those are the only men they care about and everyone else shouldn't even share the same category. So when she says "Why do men send me dick pics?" "Why do men put up dating profile pics with their shirt off and holding fish?" "Why can't men commit?" She is talking about the physically attractive guy who doesn't give a fuck. She doesn't even see the legions of men who do no such thing because they don't even e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:24 AM
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The problem is the statistics just don't stack up for that. Women agree who is attractive. All the statistics show who those people are. And it isn't a big number. If it were as you say, the statistics wouldn't line up the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:12 AM
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You do, you just don't admit to it. You're human. You're biased. That's the difference. You don't have to put a number on it, but it's there if you choose to believe it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:09 AM
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or you don't understand statistics enough to understand the people who respond to those posts are the most attractive people. It is the same with picture posts. Ugly people don't post. It's called survivorship bias, google it. The reason truerateme rating look biased to you, is your own ego won't admit your biased. That's the problem, you see the world through your particular shade of rose colored glasses. You need to learn how to break free of those biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 12:04 AM
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Whoever thinks nurture is more powerful than nature hasn't seen or heard of identical twin raised apart studies. It's shocking how much control our genes have over us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 07:10 PM
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I'm too friendly to men they assume I'm flirting, decency is so rare nowadays simple courtesies are viewed as coming onto someone. It;s womens view on 80 percent of men not even worth their time that causes this. The inequality of dating affects just common curiosity. It makes men starved for attention. This isnt true ugly young women exist, and even when your half ways attractive doesn't mean everything falls at your feet effortlessly. lol you'll see when you become ugly how much a difference i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:48 PM
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Women aren't ignored though. Even old ugly ones get more attention then the bottom percentage of men. Usually when a pretty woman gets old and ugly then she sees the world how it really is and even then it isn't as bad as most men have it. Perspective changes everything and it's hard for women to have empathy because it is so different from what they experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:28 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/as5bn0/new_study_2019_says_online_dating_is_now_the_most/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:13 PM
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That's because of the fucked up way women rate men. When you rate 80 percent of them not worthwhile and women still reach out to more attractive that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:14 AM
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And there are many many men like me that don't even count as men in your eyes. We don't even exist in your reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:12 AM
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I'm 43, how much longer should I wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:04 AM
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A group has a inherent disadvantage and another groups only solution is to work harder seems perfectly analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:00 AM
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You should read more about anecdotal evidence and why it doesn't apply to arguments we have here. You and your friends experiences mean absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:57 AM
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SO what government program do you suggest to help the poor unloved men deal with being not as attractive as women? What makes you think the bar wouldn't move if those men improved themselves? That's the republican ole bootstraps thing. Poor just need to work harder to get a better job. There is no systematic oppression minorities just need to work harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:22 PM
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You don't believe women are equal to men then. If the average man isn't equal to the average woman, then what are you claiming then? You can't have equality coming out of one mouth and then say women are just more attractive coming out of the other end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:19 PM
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All's fair in love and war. I'm reminded of /r/okcupid female users who excitedly exclaim, we were 99 percent matches! when I know the guy was up the night before carefully engineering his answers to match hers the night before... men writing programs to spam out messages to hubndreds of women, with macros that selected parts of her profile included in messages so it didn't look like a copy/paste
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:46 PM
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They're only filled with men because women don't stick around. They get their dates with Chad and get off. While men flounder, the excess of men isn't evidence against how bad things are, it's evidence for. You're also ignoring the fact that dating has become the number one way to meet people and it has been that way for 8 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:18 PM
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fatpeoplehate still exists, it's called fatlogic now. has 300k+ subscribers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:41 AM
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I'm 43 years old. Once.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:33 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/as5bn0/new_study_2019_says_online_dating_is_now_the_most/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 01:23 PM
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Okcupid / Tinder / match.com data is 15+ years old and hasn't changed in that entire time. It's also based on half the single people in the United States. 50+ million people. The okcupid data is infinitely better because there is no hiding from what people actually do on websites vs what they SAY they are doing. (survey data) The data is the same over this 15 year period of time. Think about how much has changed since 2004. Smartphones put the internet in the hands of people who never bothered w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:06 AM
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Women like to complain about guys who have their shirts off in photos. They don't look at the guys who wouldn't have their shirt off in a photo because they are ugly. So if a woman says, every guy like has their shirt off, that means she isn't looking at regular guys, she is only looking at the most attractive. "Guys always want the same thing." No, the GUYS YOU WANT, want the same thing. And they mostly get it. There are whole hosts of men who are unattractive, who don't only want sex, and keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 10:56 AM
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For how often okcupid's stats get thrown around: Rudder, Christian (2014). Dataclysm : Who We Are When We Think No One's Looking. Crown Publishers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 10:41 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/mJao06o.png How to prove this: It's pretty simple. All you have to do is ask women, what percentage of men does she find attractive? It will always be a very low number. 1 out of 100 if you are lucky. Probably more like 1 out of 200 people. All those men that women find attractive are compromised in the top 20 percent. She doesn't like every Chad, just her particular shade of Chad in the top 20 percent. I don't even know why this is so controversial, it is easy to ask any wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 10:27 AM
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She created a suitable name that stuck. No more. No less. Incels have existed for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:26 AM
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Lol not really just general nice guy rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:24 PM
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I didn't realize being hungover was so complicated. I thought they just threw their hair up in a bun and threw on some sweats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:21 PM
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"niceness" isn't the minimum. Convicts who are objectively not nice people have girlfriends. It isn't even in consideration if you are a certain attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:03 AM
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That's the whole point though. Women can't rate men. And you're a woman, so you can only see a very smell percentage of men as being attractive. Isn't that the main argument here? So you see exactly what you are supposed to see. Which in fact, is objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:31 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/eGMAZ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:26 AM
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I fell in love on more Sunday mornings in the laundry room in my college dorm than the night before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:01 AM
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I worry about my kid. That's why I do what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:39 AM
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Okcupid survey it isn't a survey, it's the direct actions of millions upon millions of women on multiple dating sties from 2004-2018. Including, okcupid, match, Tinder, Hinge. 50 million people+ It's direct data. Big data.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:09 AM
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and the reality is the guy who ends up the rapist is the guy she chooses and not the creepy guy on the street. so they project the rapist tendencies onto the ugly men while ignoring the real threat of the men they date raping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:00 PM
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it didn't start out that way. women line up dates and leave the site. men stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:42 PM
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4 years after okcupid... match(1995) and plentyoffish(2003) are even earlier. Tinder just showed that profiles don't matter. Only pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:37 PM
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it shows how women really fundamentally don't understand men if they believe men would choose porn over a live woman. that's absolutely thinking like a woman and projecting it onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:30 PM
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"What does a man have to do to enter a room and have every woman in that room desire him? He would have to conquer the worlds of entertainment, sports or politics." "What does a woman have to do to achieve the same result from a roomful of men?" "Her hair."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:19 AM
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survivorship bias is a version of selection bias. One in which a part of the group is removed from ones view. Hence the "survivor". The people showing up to post their pictures misrepresent what incels look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:54 PM
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Survivorship bias. People who are more likely to post their picture are more likely attractive and not a true representation of the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:48 AM
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I'm pretty ugly. You wouldn't think I posted here by looking at me. I look a lot less intelligent than I am. Sometimes I ruin this by opening my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 03:45 AM
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does online dating exist in your country?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 08:02 AM
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Once again... online dating is the most popular way to meet new people surpassing friends and family in 2011...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 07:57 AM
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Did you shower too? I mean I'm taking notes here. --showered. please continue with this ever original and ever insightful advice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:45 PM
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80-20 is based on 50 million users online dating data. It isn't random numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:16 PM
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You don't have to be sexually promiscuous for 80/20 to still be true. You just have to wait your turn till 1 out of 5 guys that are seen as sexual attractive in your particular shade of Chad becomes available.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:15 PM
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Okcupid / Tinder / match.com data is 15+ years old and hasn't changed in that entire time. It's also based on half the single people in the United States. 50+ million people. The okcupid data is infinitely better because there is no hiding from what people actually do on websites vs what they SAY they are doing. (survey data) The data is the same over this 15 year period of time. Think about how much has changed since 2004. Smartphones put the internet in the hands of people who never bothered w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:09 PM
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There is a tedx talk from 2014 with a woman like this. You reminded me of her. https://youtu.be/dE8UHCDVYB8?t=83 Googled. 2020 update: kid with 6'2" fit dude.... things are fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 10:50 AM
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The men you want to date don't have any problem with ego. There is an entire subclass of men who you ignore that aren't even considered with no ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:40 AM
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mostly all learned behavior, then men who do not learn specific social behaviors pertaining to women within a certain time period are more likely to not understand women as they age. I think that's mostly the problem that incels have. It isn't their fault. They were excluded by the group involuntarily. Incels don't ask to be incels. It is a lifetime of rejection, not just romantically, but interpersonally. They are treated differently by society since they were children. When your peers treat yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:18 AM
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Maria Bamford and Nina Conti. You're welcome. I like Sarah Silverman too. Her specials in the 2000s her first joke was always about a guy cumming on her face. I thought it was kinda funny she lead with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:08 AM
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The most ardent police supporters I know are disgusted with that. If there is any question about an incident, police unions are strong enough to usually go through a full arbitration process. People always joke, "We've conducted a full investigation and we found ourselves not guilty!" Yet this case was so egregious, these officers were fired in a day. If the police are always so corrupt, why did they fire them immediately? Shouldn't they give them time off with pay? Since all police are naturall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:04 AM
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Random thought of the day: Men using the world "female" has fallen out of fashion and has been used as some sort of dog whistle for misogyny. But I think the origin is much less about misogyny and more about men's interest in science. When talking about the societal levels of relationships, demographics and dating the word "female" is used in scientific journals. This is standard. So when a man comes to a forum and tries to discuss these things, women jump all over him as some misogynistic assho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 08:52 AM
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You can easily tell how women are picky on online dating. They make generalizations like, "So many men without their shirts on." No there are a lot of men who keep their shirts on in their profile that you don't even consider as men. The men you look at and want are the type of guy to take off their shirts in dating profiles. All men want is sex. Once again. all the women want a certain class of men all of whom can demand things like wanting sex for a woman because if he keeps shooting in a barr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:13 PM
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Men look for any reason to date women. Women look for any reason not to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:58 PM
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The fundamental problem though is this: Four variables indicated the number of times that an initiated message was reciprocated by the receiver of the message. Seventy-nine percent of men's sent messages, and 58% of women's sent messages, went unreciprocated. As the number of reciprocated responses increased, the percentage of messages in each category declined, so that only 3% of men's, and 7% of women's, sent messages resulted in more than five exchanges. The last category captured the mean nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 01:35 AM
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I go to meetups all the time. Hasn't changed anything and just reinforced beliefs. I had a 40 and a 50 year old woman straight out say they won't date anyone under 6'2". I didn't ask this. I tried to be as neutral as possible when asking questions as to not lead any answers. I make a concerted effort to not tip my knowledge about anything dating related. I'm not even short. I'm (really) 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 12:54 AM
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This has been disproven so many times that SNL did a sketch about it. 15 years ago. https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/tv-funhouse-sexual-harassment-and-you/2751966
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 12:33 AM
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I've only posted this 10 times in the past 3 years. Usually when someone doubts the validity of the okcupid data. you missed this part: The bottom tier of woman less than 20 percent of attractiveness reaches out for a top 40 percent of man. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 06:50 AM
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Even if that was true the problem is every dating website (paid sites and ancient sites) doesn't have bots and gets the same data.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 02:57 AM
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Anyone who says, sex isn't a need sure doesn't go without it very long... I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:00 PM
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Heterosexual men's ratings of sexual attractiveness of pubescent girls: Effects of labeling the target as under or over the age of sexual consent. Abstract The study aimed to identify implicit and explicit processes involved in reporting the sexual attractiveness of photographs of the same pubescent girls labeled as either under or within the age of sexual consent in the UK, women, and men. In two studies, 53 and 70 heterosexual men (M age 25.2 and 31.0 years) rated the sexual attractiveness of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:41 PM
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look at my other threads in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:15 PM
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one affects a certain specific group and the other affects an entire gender. I wonder which is larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:13 PM
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tell my ex this :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:05 PM
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statistics from the dating sites
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:03 PM
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Most women don't do this, where most men initiate AND message more attractive women. And are ignored judging by Tinders 1.6 percent match rate. That's why dating is a mess and men are being left out. The fundamental truth here is women have unrealistic expectations of the average man. She wants a man much better than herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:57 PM
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And? THat is what men have to do in order to equalize the uneven dating world. It is women not choosing to reply to men, not men to women. It isn't even close to the amount of attention women gets vs the attention men get. Indeed, there is some evidence that less desirable women are more likely to aim higher than less desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:49 PM
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When it is broken down fairly eg. the top 1 percent of women should be with the top 1 percent of men-the top 2 percent of women should be with the top 2 percent of men etc. This is how it works out. The bottom tier of woman less than 20 percent of attractiveness reaches out for a top 40 percent of man. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greates…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:41 PM
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If you completely discount the way women rate men as mathematically impossible that is true. It's completely an artifact of the unrealistic way women rate men. The way women rate men throws off the data about who contacts who. You give women a 5 to 1 head start on the race and she still contacts higher percentile man. Of course men would message more attractive women, you rated 80 percent of them worse than average. So a 50 percentile man reaching out to a 50 percentile woman is seen as the man …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:34 PM
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Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:10 PM
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uh, he is the engineer that has the data. And it matches everyone else's data. Including a very left wing centric okcupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:06 PM
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A. I recently saw a post on Medium that considered incoming likes as a sort of currency. Every nation in the world has a currency, but that currency is not equally distributed amongst the citizens of every country. These economic inequalities are described using what is called the Gini index. In our context, the closer the Gini index is to 0, the more equally likes are distributed across all of our users; a higher Gini index rating means more likes are being concentrated into fewer recipients. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:01 PM
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sorry linked wrong one. https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer/ The guy that wrote that post only had a couple dozen data points, but since I have access to many orders of magnitude more, reading his write-up made me curious as to what would happen if I reproduced his work using our data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:55 PM
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Here is a Hinge engineer supporting my position. Hinge has the same data as okcupid and Tinder. https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/from-the-web/hinge-growth-engineer-explains-how-likes-are-distributed-on-the-dating-app/ (linked wrong post) https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:49 PM
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60:40 men it's like a bar, men go where the women are. ladies night is a thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:39 PM
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when a woman says "a man" it means a man she doesn't completely discount and ignore. Women have no empathy for majority of men and just flat out ignore them. Women consider only certain men as men at all. The rest of men have the same status as family or objects like telephone poles. They pay attention just enough to not walk into them and they vanish from their entire worldly thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:38 PM
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2016 vs 2019.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:31 PM
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And that's why women are more shallow then men. Man who uses you temporarily is so important-you'd rather be alone than settle for less. You don't consider the majority of men as men at all because they're useless to you. They don't even figure in the equation at all. They get cheated on because they didn't pick with any regard to the reality of what they do. They buy the flashy car and ignore the reliable one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:29 PM
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40 users in a coffee shop with a 16 second difference and people think I'm selective about my data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:21 PM
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Women prefer dating sites that have profiles like Bumble and CMB to Tinder, which is heavily skewed male. I'd argue that a paragraph isn't a profile. And the ratio is about the same: https://www.statista.com/statistics/975984/us-bumble-user-ratio-gender/ https://blog.apptopia.com/dating-apps-male-dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:00 PM
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Source? Counter source: Back when okcupid let people rate for looks and personality: https://i.imgur.com/XmUu79e.png okcupid's experiment when they removed profile text: https://i.imgur.com/FrrdbVl.png okcupid got the exact same scores with the text of your profile and without. Nobody cares what you say on dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:50 PM
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If that were true, and it isn't, why wouldn't they be open to dating other men by swiping them back when they had full profiles? They don't. That's why profiles are gone in all the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:39 PM
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Yet you found him. And just because he is good now doesn't mean he will marry you. He could get tired of you and trade up for a younger model at any time. It's your turn, but who knows for how long? People also have a tendency to only see the good in their partners. Lots of the bullies and garbage human beings I've ever known are seen as "good people" by their spouses and their communities. Yet I personally witnessed the same guy try to get unwilling girls to touch his dick(by literally taking i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:37 PM
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Seconding this. I was a football (american) player growing up. The guys who thought the least of women (misogynistic) were always the most popular with women. The incels I knew would never do 1/10th the amount of shit popular guys got away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:18 PM
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They are shallow because they can be, You are the same way. You have the opportunity to be with many great guys but they aren't good enough for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:15 PM
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Myth. It is women who has the wrong idea of the average man. According to 20 million okcupid users and 50 million Tinder users, women rate 80 percent of all men worse than average. source: Tinder: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the large…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:13 PM
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source? the amount of bots is meaningless if it matches the real data. Most bots are advertisers. They get banned and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:56 PM
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Source? If Tinder knows about the bots, why would they include that in the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:58 PM
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God help us if you are in medical school and don't understand statistics this badly. Okay, so pick the average woman. Does she date the average man? Does the 50 percentile woman date the 50 percentile man? That isn't what the data of millions of users of online dating say. If you are examining only the people around you, you are doing the very definition of selection bias. You hang out and are generally around other people like you. So if the data was skewed on a population level everything woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:43 PM
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Bots have been reported on some sites. But usually they sexual in nature. Ashley Madison.com got hacked and found 2 million active male members and 12000 active female users. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madison_data_breach If most women are on dating sites are bots, why do so many women say they use online dating to meet people? (See source that the majority of Americans use online dating to meet people) You can't have data saying millions of people are using online dating to date and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:21 PM
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After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. https://www.cnet.com/news/tinder-plus-men-women-swiping/ Online dating is the #1 way to date since it passed setup by friends and family in 2013. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:56 PM
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Sigh same old weak arguments that have been asked and answered a hundred times. The data isn't "selective". It is based off of half of the single people in the United states. 20 million OkCupid users and 50 million Tinder users. It is literally the greatest big data set of what people are actually doing and not what they say they are doing. This isn't 50 kids in a college pysch class, like your typical "study". it is the greatest insight into what people are actually doing we've ever had. This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:17 PM
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The problem is women have a skewed definition of "man". So when you say "man", do you mean the average men women want? aka the top 20 percentile of men. Or the average 50 percentile man in society? That's the fundamental problem with this question. So yes, the 50 percentile man wants the 50 percentile woman. The 50 percentile woman doesn't want the 50 percentile of man. So when women ask questions like this, they immediately disregard 80 percent of men not even worthy of being called men or even…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:27 PM
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I've been talking about the OkCupid data since you were in high school. Even before it was published in the book. The excerpt that is widely circulated was from me cutting it out in 2014 shortly after the book was published. On photography All of Christian Rudder’s OLD studies were conducted around the early 2010s, when online dating was not nearly the driving force of urban sexuality that it is today, and it was still a stomping ground largely for shy nerds, overly literary art-school weirdos, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:28 PM
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Unattractive men aren't just rejected when they ask for dates. Unattractive men are rejected on an everyday basis in all kinds of interactions. Life becomes banging your head up against a wall for anything that "normal" people and women get handed to them. People don't see that side of life because it personally doesn't happen to them. They don't see the thousands of rejections that proceeded the person that stands before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:44 PM
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Not true. I've pointed out many times on this subreddit, Christain Rudder the author of the original blog post clarified all these questions in the OkCupid book Dataclysm. Christain scraped pictures off of a social networking site and put them on OkCupid. So this included a bunch of people who presumably were married and never used online dating. He got the same data for the social networking group as he did the OkCupid group. Here is the source from the book: https://imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:25 PM
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I've pointed out many times on this subreddit, Christain Rudder the author of the original blog post clarified all these questions in the OkCupid book Dataclysm. Christain scraped pictures off of a social networking site and put them on OkCupid. So this included a bunch of people who presumably were married and never used online dating. He got the same data for the social networking group as he did the OkCupid group. Here is the source from the book: https://imgur.com/2MstAzl.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:23 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043335/ Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest and the more tempered models in Figure 1. This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar desirability levels and more than half sent messages to alters in the medium-high and highest level quintiles. [In english: The lowest of the low women only sent messages to Chad, in the study this was the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:09 PM
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I live with a Chad. I see women he brings over that weigh significantly more than him. Not a few pounds. 60? 70? They are at least 250lbs. Not once, but in the last 2 Saturday nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 09:49 AM
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Match.com has the same statstics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:31 PM
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That's the whole point women only find a small amount of men even worthy including all the women who don't have that themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:28 PM
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And christain Rudder in his book Dataclysm found there is no difference between real people and those that use online dating though running people though that used social media (including married never online dated people)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:26 PM
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Tinder does with the same data. They aren't swipe ugly people on tinder yet the data is the same. And they can't message ugly people without swiping on tinder. Yet the data is the same. See the paradox you are missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:22 PM
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The women only contact a small percentage of men? The 14 percent they swipe on tinder and the 20 percent on OkCupid? The data is the same across sites it doesn't matter if it's tinder OkCupid or match didn't actually hurt a guy's chance of getting a date. So again I ask if not liking them or swiping right doesn't matter, how do they talk to someone if they don't swipe right on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:00 PM
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Then why is it 14 percent?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:58 PM
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Can't message a man on tinder if you don't swipe right though. So how are they messing men they find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:49 PM
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Actually it is possible. Christian Rudder reported it in the book Dataclysm. He saw the data of tinder, match.com, datehookup.com. They are the same. All dating sites show the men 80 Percent less than average statstics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:48 PM
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So if the tinder and OkCupid data match, how do people message people they don't swipe right on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:40 PM
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Tinder, match.com, OkCupid, datehookup.com all have the same data. If women aren't looking for hookups on match.com and women are looking for hookups on tinder, why does the data match?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:37 PM
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Tinder, OkCupid, match.com all have the same statstics. So if you are going to claim tinder is different than match.com, why isn't the data different? If more women are looking for relationships on match wouldn't their criteria be different and thus the statistics be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:32 PM
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They aren't studies. That is the beautiful thing. It is real data taken by real people who are being watched on what they do and not what they say. No, it isn't most men on online dating sites. It isn't their profiles. It isn't their pictures. It's men as a whole, the entire sex, is demeaned as a whole by the majority of women. Million upon millions of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:29 PM
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First off, it wasn't a study. Okcupid's founder Christian Rudder published the data with a blog post in 2009. The data was updated and clarified in the 2014 book Dataclysm. Tinder disproves the women message ugly guys anyway reteroic. full source: After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:52 PM
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Fat men are irrelevant to fat women yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:38 PM
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The men who want to be asked out aren't wanted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:35 PM
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Even less want fat men, including fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 01:26 PM
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A man to be wanted by every woman in the room has to conquer the worlds of sports, politics, or entertainment. All a woman has to do for every man to want her is her hair. Paraphrased bill maher
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:33 AM
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Yeah I was told that when I was 15. I'm 43 now. When is that supposed to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 12:39 AM
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https://m.imgur.com/uAOsyLn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 10:10 PM
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They've only been posted like everyday for the past 5 years. https://m.imgur.com/uAOsyLn He saw the statistics for tinder, match, datehookup and he says they are all the same as OkCupid. You have to read the text part too. Tinder also released their data to the New York Times. Women only right swipe 14 percent of the time while men did 46 percent of the time. If you need a source you can Google tinder 14 percent women. The statistics are the same for every dating site. So none of them are hookup…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:44 PM
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Most don't even get a choice in partners. I know because I am one of them. I have to choose those that chose me. Otherwise I wouldn't date ever. I only get interest from women once every few years. So I get no choice in the matter. I date them or I date no one. You have seen the statistics that 1/3 of men 18 to 29 are virgins right? That is far from the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:31 PM
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The statistics that dating sites release every so often. They are all the same. So every dating site is a hookup site or none of them are. If there was a difference in the statistics then you would have an argument that christianmingle is different than tinder. But it isn't any different. So your arguement is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:24 PM
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A below average guy isn't getting served anything. Have you been paying attention to the incel phenomenon? Below average men are being starved of any relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:12 PM
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All dating site share the same statistics. Tinder, match, datinghookup, Christian mingle So if you are making the argument that tinder is a hook-up site, you're saying eharmony is a hookup site too because they display the same statistics. So they all are hookup sites or none of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:04 PM
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People want to feel like they are good people and do things for the right reasons despite the evidence to the contrary. So they just pretend they are. To protect their own ego. The brain is expert at rationalizing away blame. People don't want to believe they are biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:51 AM
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Fat women don't want to date fat guys. That's how bad it is for fat guys. Body shaming men is aokay. TV fat guys are the only guys with fat are acceptable to women. You know the guy who looks fat next to the male model. A completely unrealistic standard for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:40 AM
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all I learned from the height thread is women hate fat guys more than short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 04:47 AM
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doesn't matter what you call it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:41 PM
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Anyone who says, sex isn't a need sure doesn't go without it very long... I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:00 PM
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sharing sex partners is sharing partners even if you want to think it is or not. You are sharing men with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 02:00 PM
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so you wanted to know, there is your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:49 AM
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the best part of those threads is a lot of the regulars stay out... crickets... haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:30 PM
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because they are tended to more at an early age by parents and teachers, because they are goodlooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:26 PM
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I'll give you a hint, they call them fuckbuddies... on-off boyfriend... you know people who don't "DTR".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:24 PM
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this is what the result of "just work harder" rhetoric we feed to men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:05 AM
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porn can't hug you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:59 AM
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it's getting worse and not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:58 AM
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https://www.woodtv.com/news/grand-rapids/grand-rapids-man-flagged-by-fbi-arrested/1983558595 It is going to become a lot more common. And a lot of guys aren't going to shout it from the hills like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:53 AM
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when I was married my wife always wanted the "next" thing. Meaning once she got something it no longer became valuable to her and she moved on to wanting something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 10:13 PM
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yeah it is completely ridiculous to judge incels for one thing and regular people for another. Everyone wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 10:05 PM
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is the reverse true? cuz I see that more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 10:03 PM
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yes, I am. that's a complex question. who gets to decide their league? That's the fundamental problem, women heads are huge. Their egos are out of control. Hypergamy is rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:58 AM
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and thousands of people who meet in bars want a quick fuck too. why are they any different? guys would kill for a relationship... a quick fuck... anything. They are so starved of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:55 AM
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the statistics don't support your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:52 AM
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women despise ugly men a lot more than men despise ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:06 PM
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"date" unattractive women? LOOOOOOOL. I married one and had a kid with one. In fact, I don't ever think I dated anyone attractive ever. You'd be surprised how many men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 02:00 PM
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There are a few things I have learned in my life, one is socially incompetent women don't like socially incompetent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:55 PM
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how many guys had sex once with a woman once just to get the monkey off his back? How many men never really had satisfying sex? How many men never had sex with someone of his looksmatch? These are questions nobody really asks but are hidden within the data. The fact is women control so much of the field they can attempt to get what they want, anytime they want. How often does the average man get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:47 AM
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It's from Dataclysm. The okcupid founder wrote a book in 2014 about the data of okcupid. The same place the other data comes from. It doesn't use percentiles. I can't spell it out any further for you. Take a statistics class.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 12:24 AM
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it doesn't, that's the problem. because they separated them out by "attractiveness groups" instead of percentiles. that is why your graphs and my graphs from the very same data don't seem to coincide. a 50 percentile man is in the "least attractive male senders" group, when that is bullshit. A 50 percentile man should be in the "medium attractive male senders" group. least attractive male senders 1-80 percent of all men medium attractive men - 18 percent most attractive men - 2 percent while men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 12:01 AM
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by starting from the assumption that 80 percent of males are worse than average.... see how they hid that. basically they grouped all men by the way women rated them instead of by percentile. Then because the 50 percentile man reaches out to the 50 percentile women it is seen as men "reaching out".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:33 PM
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every dating site (example match.com) has the same pattern as okcupid and tinder. so either they all are about str than ltr or none of them are. There is no difference in the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 09:54 PM
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All men want the hottest woman, regardless of his own attractiveness. The same isn't true for women. and how many messages do women send? see how the graphs don't match up? it's because okcupid gave women a massive head start in those statistics and then ignored the head start and said women are less picky then men. only when you ignore the the fact that it is impossible for 80 percent of men are worse than average does it work out how you say. It makes no sense to do it that way. 80 percent are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 09:49 PM
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1) Uggos often avoid OLD therefore an average OLD user is more attractive than an average human. Christian Rudder (okcupid founder who wrote an entire book on the data) tested this by using a random assortment of social media pictures (aka mixture of married and single people on facebook) and found no difference between the users on online dating and "regular people". 3) Many men desperately swipe right without looking at photos on bots and women they'd not date. Therefore, we can't really use 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:52 PM
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okcupid data was published first and had an entire book published on the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:44 PM
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Also no one talks about how while men may have been much fairer judges of looks, they still mailed the top 20% of women the most. That actually goes with the common advice, "You should message who you really want!" "Don't just spam people on the site, just focus on the special one!" Men message everyone, and the best one they can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:43 PM
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tinder and match has the same data as okcupid and doesn't do what okcupid used to do. So it had zero affect on the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:36 PM
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However, the study proves that women are much likelier to message guys they considers unattractive, while men will go directly to the top 30% women they find the MOST attractive and will ignore all the women they find reasonnably attractive. Incorrect. (source okcupid dating book Dataclysm) After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:28 PM
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The data is confounded to hell by OkCupid's old star system. Back then, if you rated a man "4 or 5 stars" that man would be notified. So it wasn't just the question, in a vacuum, of if you found him attractive, it was if you found him attractive and were okay with him knowing that. No it isn't. The data for tinder and match.com use no such system and it's exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:22 PM
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you can't see it because you are viewing it through your own rose colored glasses of your own hypergamy. that's the fundamental problem. You are seeing and reacting exactly what red pillers/incels/mgtows see and say you should react like. The vast majority of men are ugly in your eyes. That's hypergamy speaking to you through the evolutionary reptilian brain. It isn't objective. I saw the stereotypical college quarterback looking dude with a fat chick just last night. I wanted to pull over and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:58 PM
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Mathmatically based and automatically shames you if you overreach your hierarchy. If you a 30 percentile man and you message a 60 percentile woman, the app shames you. "Sorry bud, she's out of your league." A 30 percentile woman reaches out to a 60 percentile man. "You know he is just going to use you for sex and then ghost you, why do you even bother?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:11 PM
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I would urinate on my mothers grave for a woman half as goodlooking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:05 AM
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thanks for the compliment. I try to attack the argument and not the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:25 AM
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Tinder is a hookup app? How about okcupid? How about match.com? Are they hookup apps too? Online dating is the #1 way to date since it passed setup by friends and family in 2013.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:24 AM
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If you read the study. it became #1 in 2013.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:06 PM
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The actual conclusions are that looks matter much less to women, but because TRPers do not care about facts at all it got turned around to the opposite. we've discussed the okcupid study to death. How about two alternate sources that refute your claim? Men's Looks Matter More Than Women Admit, Study Shows women don't want their looksmatch. Here is a breakdown of online dating from this published study (sample size ~15000): Again, patterns of sent messages appeared to fall between the aim-highest…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 10:44 AM
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yeah, read the okcupid book by Christian Rudder, Dataclysm. He explains it. He wrote those blog posts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 08:02 AM
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I went to a catholic school too. I liked the uniforms. I thought they were kinda hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:55 AM
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That's true. But I think they were rather open... at first. Christian Rudder, the guy who wrote the book sold to company to match so he didn't even have a vested interest anymore when he went over the data. But that doesn't discourage people from trying to mine data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:46 AM
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pot kettle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:21 AM
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Go ahead, name anything I misinterpreted and I'll give you a secondary source that says exactly the same thing as I've been saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:16 AM
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That's fine. People told me I was crazy long before any data came out that proved I wasn't. That's the hilarious part. I figured it long before I had okcupid data to prove it. I just did it by counting who was dating who in high school shortly before the internet existed, and before you were born, young lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:11 AM
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yes, otherwise this graph would make no sense. And it is from the same book using the same data. okcupid hid what is really going on. I have further evidence too if you'd like to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 07:01 AM
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the only thing you guys care about is that you can't bang super models. Myth. according to the data, actually the reverse is true. Women aren't giving average men a shot. So in fact, women are the ones trying to bang super models. and mostly succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:50 AM
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Christian Rudder, okcupid founder, Harvard Mathematics graduate who wrote the book on Big Data and okcupid. It's called Dataclysm:Who We Are (When We Think No One's Looking). They ripped off facebook pictures and put em on okcupid. The men on okcupid are no derpier than "regular people" on facebook. So okcupid having men of lesser quality isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:43 AM
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They didn't normalize the "least attractive men" to the "most attractive men" by percentiles. They left 80 percent less goodlooking than average, which doesn't make mathmatical sense. 50 percentile is average. not 80 percentile. That is how they skewed the data, for a 50 percentile man reaching out to a 50 percentile woman he would have to reach up. This argument is so frequent here I am explaining it to someone else. If you rate 80 percent of men less attractive than average of course you are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:38 AM
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Pot kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:27 AM
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You haven't heard because Tinder doesn't contact you when you "like" someone. So it is completely irrelevant. Tinder's data is worse than okcupid's. If okcupid's system kept people from "staring" them whatever, Tinder's system had no such thing and it still kept low rated people low and high rated people high. It didn't matter in the least. Same with match.com. And the data was taken pre-and post- Tinder. No change. Both Tinder and match.com use completely different methods but had the same data…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:26 AM
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Stupid and wrong. Back when okcupid rated looks and personality there was no "swiping system". There were full profiles with pictures. People rated on looks and personality. Okcupid pulled the data and found looks = personality which is the source of this. Yes they had a 5 star system for both looks and personality. It doesn't matter if you rate people 1 star or 5 stars or three stars. Good looking people get 5 stars. Bad looking people get 1 star. Those in between get 2.5 stars. So the star sys…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:22 AM
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anytime the data is posted there are quite a few.... here are two from this very thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/as5bn0/new_study_2019_says_online_dating_is_now_the_most/egrwa78/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/as5bn0/new_study_2019_says_online_dating_is_now_the_most/egs7row/ nice ad hominem too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:07 AM
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Not true, they compared facebook to okcupid. Both got the same ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 06:03 AM
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I'm sorry, but the statistics don't support your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 03:55 AM
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Women do the same thing as men, but a lot worse because at least men give ugly women a shot. Unlike women who only message the hottest guys on the site. See how okcupid hid the true nature of the data. They gave women a head start, and then declared them the winner because they went 1/4 of a mile before men went a mile and declared women the better runners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 03:42 AM
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The reason it looks that way is okcupid gave women a head start, ignored that head start, and compared men to women saying men are worse! Yeah when you give women a 4:1 head start of course men are going to look worse. Here is another graph that is from the very same data from the okcupid book. If what you said was true, why does this graph separated in percentiles look so much different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 03:35 AM
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If Tinder only matches you with someone you also match with, how would a woman go out with a man she didn't "swipe right" on? Match has the same data as okcupid, in fact, it is a little worse than okcupid. After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 02:57 AM
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evidence? because otherwise that is just your opinion man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 02:47 AM
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all dating sites have the same pattern... match.com okcupid and Tinder. The myth is that Tinder is the hooking up site. Well according to the data all sites are hooking up sites, or they all aren't. So which is it? First they say your data is wrong, then they say you data was right but you are misinterpreting it, then they say "we knew this all along!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 02:43 AM
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So all the people who say online dating data isn't real data should be apologizing right about now right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 02:33 AM
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The okcupid book dataclysm came up with the same answer in 2014ish. Basically your words mean nothing, so taking the time to write long targeted messages comes up with few results. Short, to the point messages allow you to spread out your targets to as many interested people as possible. They usually don't care what you write as long as you meet their minimum looks threshold and you contact them. Women don't like hearing how shallow they are.
/r/BlackPillScience17/12/18 10:19 AM
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they're so offended by it they can't wait to go home and tell everyone know know about it in excruciating detail
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 01:58 AM
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When little Jimmy wants to know why little Debbie isn't talking to him, you should be there to tell him his future. You're a 2 and Debbie is an 8. So When Debbie is 18 she'll get a job as a receptionist, making three times the amount of money you make. She is better looking so the world will see her are a better person. You life is over so don't even bother. Because with the nonchalantness of your post you don't even understand you are condemning millions of men to depression and other mental il…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 01:46 AM
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but you are telling him his life is going to be a failure for largely things out of his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 12:05 AM
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When you tell a kid he is 2 and that is what he is going to be forever and women won't date him when he is older because he is 2. That course of action will contibute to his depression, his inceldom, his outlook on life. If you don't see that then you aren't looking very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 12:02 AM
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Cool, when do we start teaching kids as young as like age 8 they will never amount to anything because they got the wrong end of the ugly stick? Because essentially you've just told 80 percent of men to not even bother with it. And you are lying to them when you try and help them. Meaningless platitudes. So why should these men contribute to society? So do you want to be the one with the job to explain how unfair life is and sorry you weren't born to better parents? If that is true and that is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:53 PM
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For how often I defend the statistic, I sure as hell wish I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:43 PM
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observe people in relationships. look for rings on the finger. Look at the ratio of single people without a relationship vs those with a relationship and which groups are separate and together. Of any significant size group, of over a 100 people you'll find about 20 percent of them in this relationship kind of state while 80 percent will be single status. I'm not saying it's evidence of anything, it just seem to be a pattern that repeats itself. As I pointed out below, it seems people who partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:41 PM
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nope, but I think it is funny that people who defend one position seem to be at about 20 percent while others who defend another position seem to be 80 percent. And the 20 percent doesn't seem to have a problem getting attached, married, relationships, etc without much of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:37 PM
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Some ideas I've been floating around. Participants in PPD has the same ratio... 80 - 20. Do you think that is a coincidence? Long before the internet existed, I sat in my homeroom in high school and counted out the boys and girls in relationships. Long before I heard of 80-20, it was in my estimations. Just going to the 18-25ish clubs pre-internet. If you observed all the groups. Guy groups, Girl groups, Mix company groups it appeared again. 80-20. It isn't a new concept, we just didn't collabor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:48 PM
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The basis of hypergamy is easily proven beyond this study. Let's do an experiment. Walk up to any woman. Ask her what percentage of men she finds attractive. repeat till you are convinced you got a statistically valid number. Walk up to any man. Ask him what percentage of women he finds attractive. repeat till you are convinced you got a statistically valid number. (the same as women) Compare. result=hypergamy Why it occurs is a much bigger problem and that's what the "dual sexuality" is trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 03:59 AM
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several times per hour when out. I want to know everyone. But am far too shy to ask. That's why I like the internet so much I can read and remember others experiences in life. I find it interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:03 PM
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He was a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 08:17 AM
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I end up copy and pasting this over and over again... lots of info. if you think hypergamy isn't occurring, you really aren't paying attention. It's a basic human tenant since the beginning of time. 8000 years ago, 17 women reproduced for every one man. So not is it even a modern tenant, it is literally built right inside of women on a evolutionary basis. evidence of hypergamy: 80/20 stuff I would argue it is worse. But I give it to 20 percent as benefit of the doubt. I think it is probably 90/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 08:11 AM
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Are creepy guys creepy before or after they open their mouth? Because being ugly leads to the attributes that you describe. You haven't seen his trials and tribulations that lead to this point. You didn't see him picked last for kickball. You didn't see him being told he was ugly in the 3rd grade. etc. People who grow up like this become socially stunted because of their looks. Not the other way around. They weren't socially stunted first and then grew ugly. They are so desperate for human inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:59 AM
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Until someone explains away dating site statistics, genetic testing going back thousands of years, I don't see how anyone could ignore hypergamy is happening. That's why it is taken as fact. It is literally written in our DNA and based off of millions of people (aka big data).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 10:01 AM
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I wonder where we could find such data on the threshold in which women consider "a lot" and "matters". It isn't like millions and millions of people had their data published from dating websites. OH they have? my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 04:21 PM
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I think a lot of men settle. I don't think a lot of women settle. "It's better to be in the arena, getting stomped by a bull, than to be up in the stands or out in the parking lot." Just look at the demands on any dating site shows you women will not compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:33 PM
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I had no idea what "purge" even meant last year when we had it. I missed the boat completely on the purge movies until I came across it in a hotel I was staying at this past summer. Then I finally understood. /go away grandpa
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 07:20 PM
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banning them only makes them stronger and more resolute. Just the fact that they take over should be a wake up call. There are many many incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 02:31 AM
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Now I ask you, what do you get out of it? Of being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:29 PM
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Yes, you are. Just by being you. Sucks doesn't it? We are far reaches from equality of opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:26 PM
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I am not for that kind of equality. You're oppressing people and don't know or care. What do we call that? Privilege. How does it feel to have privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:21 PM
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they still post, but I would be making generalizations about incels looks while only looking at pictures of people who post. maybe you should listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:18 PM
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If you are for equality, maybe we should help those who aren't equal in the same ways we help others who aren't equal. No, I'm not talking about rape farms. Incels need help, we should give it to them because it isn't their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:16 PM
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homos don't have lots of babies, just sayin'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:15 PM
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survivorship bias. incels who aren't super bad looking post their pics. the upper tier of incel. most bad looking people wouldn't. the lower tiers of incels. So you base your opinion on incomplete data, the ones who are more likely to post vs the ones who wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:10 PM
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Your husband is Jackie Chan? I could have swore that was like 2 of his movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:51 AM
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If history tells us anything, nothing has changed the world like an angry young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 12:39 AM
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something like 32 percent of people met their SO online... so I think 40 million rating says effectively who is dating who in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 12:39 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTfRRmFC4-c
/r/BlackPillScience19/09/18 12:37 AM
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Sex isn’t crucial to survival for the individual disagree. I think it drives people mad. Comfort is a need. I never claimed to force anyone. What I do say is we need to recognize the problem and do something about it. Women don't like talking privilege when they are the ones who are the privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 11:34 PM
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last link... read the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 11:30 PM
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statistics tell us... how we interpret that data is up to us. But it is looking pretty unfair to men right now. Those of us who love equality, should have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 11:29 PM
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Every 14 year old doesn't suddenly realize that sex isn't on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but suddenly that becomes an awfully important part of their life. That's a need in my book. We are social animals who need comfort and I find it hypocritical of someone who has comfort to say someone else doesn't need it. Basically, "It is easy to talk of fasting, if thy stomach is full." Anyone who says sex isn't a need doesn't seem to go without for that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:25 PM
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"reason why" born ugly male with stunted childhood... It wasn't a choice. It was thrust upon them usually at an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:15 PM
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Yeah, the something wrong with them is they tried and listened to people's misguided advice, instead of staying inside their room.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:12 PM
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sorry brother. Keep your chin up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:09 PM
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Ugly men get mixed messages, approach more offline! It's easier! Then they get fired from their job, harassment charges, thrown out of establishments, get know on campus as "that weird guy". The fact is some men there is no one out there for and we need to do something to help them get through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:07 PM
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the last link of my post...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:03 PM
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Not just still images. they're entire profile. (didn't change anything when they went to tinder like photo only though, show you how much "words" matter.) More than half of single people in the United States made those ratings. It tells you everything about dating when something like 30 percent of single people meet their SO online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 10:02 PM
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teddy bear 200lbs instead of 175lbs. that's called "tv" fat guy. You know all the guys they pass off as fat on tv compared to real life fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:57 PM
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I notice no one likes fat guys. Even fat girls. That's the part people who don't ever interact with fat people understand. Nobody likes fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:55 PM
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and the 2nd link?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:49 PM
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I didn't say that. But I think there should be government issued help to people struggling with those issues. and Biological needs need to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:43 PM
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yeah and mathmatically individuals don't matter, but over the larger spread as a whole that why it does matter. That's why the data is still important. Once you go past a certain threshold you can say with a reasonable amount of confidence. When you are in this kinda data land, you're well past individual preferences and were talking swaths of people's preferences. It shows the reality of dating for the first time ever really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:41 PM
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No, it is just a hand in privilege you have and don't care to give that up for equality sake. You completely dismiss your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:33 PM
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Exactly, you have no empathy for the underprivileged men. That's why it is completely hypocritical for people who want equality in other areas of life not to want equality for underprivileged men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:28 PM
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well I am trying to avoid what you are endorsing. what happens when in incels come after you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:25 PM
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the okcupid/tinder ones... you know the ones I linked at the bottom of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:20 PM
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You didn't answer the second part: Who is going to help men who can't satisfy their needs? If I said men just do jobs better than women, there shouldn't be equality in the workplace, that's just life. Would you feel different?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:17 PM
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Are the dating statistics true? or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:15 PM
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Nobody is obliged to settle to make someone unsuccessful at dating happy. Do you believe in equality? Who is going to help men who can't satisfy their needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:12 PM
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Do you believe in equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:10 PM
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"should be" because no one is ever going to agree on it, and even if they did it's not going to change anything. Because a certain part of the population is left out in the cold. And I think we should go something about it. I don't mean give incels girlfriends necessarily, but I think there should be a lot more research into incels and how we can help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:10 PM
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You didn't read the bottom of the image. It goes over the amount. This is also from 2012-2014ish, so I'm sure the number has grown since then anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:08 PM
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They do already, but statistics show this leaves a massive amount of men who are lonely. And I think the problem is getting worse, not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:07 PM
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People shouldn't be segregated into dating pools They are segregated now, it is just a different segregation massively in women's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:05 PM
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thanks for being one of the people who actually answered the questions. I didn't think I was asking for much. Your answer is interesting and something I hadn't considered. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:04 PM
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It is already on a scale even if you don't believe it. Most people agree on what is attractive. Minor things like "I only like blondes" doesn't factor in as much as people think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 09:01 PM
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Evidence suggests this isn't what happens. If that were true dating statistics would show what they show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 08:59 PM
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How can women be so entitled to expect men to work so much harder than they do themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:08 AM
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Tinder says 60ish million people have used dating apps. Surveys work by asking a sample of the 60 million different questions. Say 2000 of them. By asking 2000 of them you can extrapolate a conclusion by the sample. Well what if you didn't have 2000 people, but you had say 60 million. You don't need a sample of 2000 anymore to come to the conclusions. You have the REAL DATA of 60 million people. This is called "Big Data". So it is literally the most accurate dating survey ever. It shows real wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:06 AM
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Happens in reverse all the time, women CAN do it, they just don't WANT to because they don't HAVE to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:02 AM
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Happens in reverse all the time, women CAN do it, they just don't WANT to because they don't HAVE to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:02 AM
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Women can't adjust their lady boners to react to unattractive men they do if he is wealthy enough and she is poor enough. Women can't adjust their lady boners to react to unattractive men Happens in reverse all the time, women CAN do it, they just don't WANT to because they don't HAVE to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:01 AM
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it's the biggest survey on who is dating who ever conducted? the catch is they didn't even know they were taking a survey or being watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 11:25 AM
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I end up copy and pasting this over and over again... lots of info. if you think hypergamy isn't occurring, you really aren't paying attention. It's a basic human tenant since the beginning of time. 8000 years ago, 17 women reproduced for every one man. So not is it even a modern tenant, it is literally built right inside of women on a evolutionary basis. evidence of hypergamy: 80/20 stuff I would argue it is worse. But I give it to 20 percent as benefit of the doubt. I think it is probably 90/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 11:08 PM
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if she had hundreds of options on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 11:00 PM
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Women can't adjust their lady boners to react to unattractive men absolutely they can, that is a bullshit statement. Any study of attractiveness and scarcity shows this shows this. People adjust their expectations by their options. And women have more options than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 10:59 PM
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when she is horny and on the prowl is she gonna fuck her looksmatch? I say nay nay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 09:33 PM
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If you rate 80 percent of men less attractive than average, of course you are going to get a chart like you posted. Because a 50 percentile man isn't 80 percent worse than average he is in the middle of male attractiveness. So of course men would have to reach out further, because according to your graph, for a 50 percentile man, a "real" average man, to reach out at an 50 percentile woman, he has to overcome the poor way women rate men. So a 2.5/10 rated man(real 50 percentile) has to reach out…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 09:20 PM
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what about those guys on the bottom.. do you get surprised when they shoot up a school/run people over...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:49 AM
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Tweet from Kevin Hall PhD at NIH senior researcher. https://twitter.com/KevinH_PhD/status/852661742085840896
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 07:34 PM
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The problem is that people just assume that the bottom 50 percent of women want the bottom 50 percent of men. This isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:16 PM
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Calories in/ calories out for the VAST majority of people. Despite what reddit says, that isn't current obesity science.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:15 PM
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While I acknowledge the fact that weight loss is simple Is it? That is a HUGE statement my friend. The current science on obesity doesn't seem to think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:51 AM
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The problem is if you look at the statistics, there are exponentially more unattractive men than women. For example this one, based on 40 million ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:47 AM
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older men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:34 AM
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A guy who want to fuck a woman treats her better than those of lesser status. It's hilarious how blind they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:31 AM
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Women are really are "ugly blind". They don't see ugly men as men at all. That is why it is so hard for them to conceive of men having a hard time. It is like they classify these men the same way they do telephone poles. They see them long enough not to walk into them, but as far as anything else goes, they might as well be invisible. They have no idea what it is like to be ignored by the majority of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:29 AM
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You've clearly never been in a man's sports locker room. Men in high school get taught who gets the girls and who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:18 AM
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Have you've ever seen dating site statistics? It is rather clearly many many men can't find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:14 AM
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In marriages where woman had more education, they were 93% more likely to marry men with higher income than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:24 PM
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Exactly. That's why incels have a point. Women don't want their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 03:43 PM
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Online dating statistics support that women are dating up. Evidence follows. After a 2014 interview with Tinder CEO Sean Rad, the New York Times reported that men swiped right, or "liked", 46 percent of the time while women did so to 14 percent of profiles. Because men make up roughly 60 percent of Tinder's 50 million users, there are a lot less "likes" shared between the larger group of users. okcupid data based on 40+ million ratings So a 7.5/10 woman rated man, should be satisfied with a 5.0/…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 03:35 PM
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You didn't answer the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 09:16 PM
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80 percent of men are worse than average as rated by 40 million. Do you think a medium attractive man should be with a medium attractive woman? A 50 percentile man should be with a 50 percentile woman? Is that fair or not? Is the data right or isn't it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:55 PM
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