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You got called out for making claims without research and I'm the troll. Right. Present the research or stay silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:47 PM
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Read what? You just made claims about research without ever providing any. I don't buy that you can even read research in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:40 PM
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If you weren't a teensy bit a lazy, maybe you could have scrolled down the comments and saw the full discussion with the research. It's not on me to try to find data to justify your absurd claims. Link the data where you make the claim or just stay silent. I already wasted a lot of time explaining the connections to two people. You probably just didn't understand what you were looking at in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:23 PM
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You don't have any legitimate research to back up your claim. You shouldn't have made it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:30 PM
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despite the almost equal number of work hours, women still do most of the housework. According to bullshit survey research that relies entirely on perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 04:53 AM
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For the same reason that women will literally starve themselves to death if that's what's popular. We are just wired differently and women, by and large, just have to go along with what's in fashion. Today, it's fashionable to hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:17 PM
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According to some goofy caricature in your mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:20 AM
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I want to date much younger women because they don’t know how to call me out on my bullshit It's definitely not the objective beauty, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:18 AM
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You just pulled that nonsense out of your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:24 PM
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Subtract about 90% of the drama in the scenario, and you will be closer to reality. It's just one bunch telling another to shut the f up over the internet. You are trying to read too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:01 AM
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How could they possibly be annoyed by things they do not notice? Lol, they don’t hear old women in any capacity, come on. This is just goofy. Where did you get this idea in your head? Their whole message to young women is that men do not notice old women. No, it's just that they are unattractive outside of a granny fetish. Why do you contend that they are lying No, this is just in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:59 PM
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I am asking you to explain what precisely is going on with those men in your opinion Ok, who specifically actually said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:47 PM
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As I said, this is projecting on men a very feminine way of thinking and manipulating that just isn't anything close to reality. a related phenomenon of men absolutely losing their shit over porn stars getting married A phenomenon? How did you get this idea in your head. How would you explain those men? Frequency illusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:42 PM
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You are correct that they don't care about these old women, but you are wrong in thinking that they aren't annoyed by the complaining. You can't understand that telling them to shut the f up in advance isn't somehow caring about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:37 PM
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Use your words...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:24 PM
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If they were really living a romantic and beautiful life, they wouldn't need to blame anything on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:23 PM
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You are writing fanfic in your head. This isn't a way that men would manipulate. The collective just doesn't stroke us the way it does for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:21 PM
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Sounds like an elaborate, imaginary boogieman that has little to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:20 PM
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Women don't have to blame anyone if they choose to be single because they're CHOOSING peace over a relationship. Except that they are constantly on a screed about there being no "good men" and all the things wrong with men. That's called "blaming men".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:28 PM
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I think you are describing sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:13 PM
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For example, passport bros often older and overweight, pursue younger, attractive women. According to some goofy, feminist blog you read, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:12 PM
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They are welcome to do whatever they want as long as they aren't blaming anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:11 PM
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The men aren't giving advice or trying to help the women plan. They are telling them not to blame men when they wind up cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:06 PM
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According to your hysterical fantasy...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:01 PM
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According to the very feminine way of thinking that you are projecting onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:57 PM
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That would make sense if the cat ladies didn't spend so much time blaming and screeding at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:49 PM
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That's a very silly projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:48 PM
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The thing is that the cat ladies have a reputation for blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:47 PM
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its a manipulation tactic This sounds like something a woman would project...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:47 PM
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One of those incels could possibly be THEM. So they are "fighting" for a world where This is just silly. There really isn't that much thought involved. It's just a way of telling people to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:46 PM
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they also want to scare young attractive women into settling for them No, this is just your hysterical projection. No one is telling anyone to be with anyone they don't want. They are telling them not to blame men when things don't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:45 PM
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"Women should pick me NOW otherwise they'll end up alone, old, ugly, eggless and surrounded by cats!" You are totally missing the point. No one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:44 PM
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My question is, why do men care? They don't. They aren't giving advice. They are telling someone to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:43 PM
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It says a lot about your viewpoint that you would even assume that the people bringing the cat lady thing up were trying to give guidance or advice to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:49 PM
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I have eyes, I can see what the consensus is on single moms crystal fucking clear. Especially if the kids happened to be mixed. I believe “burn the coal, pay the toll” is the expression? I don't think that's really an expression in wide-spread use. Are you from the rural deep south or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:08 PM
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Trust me, they’ll have stories. They will probably be driven by frequency illusion and a desire to remember, emphasize and confabulate non-representative examples which validate their ideology. There are absolutely women who will look down on you too. The church ladies are definitely playing a role in all of this. Does telling women they’re gonna become crazy cat ladies and die alone if they have no husband or kids not count? What? It takes a pretty bizarre interpretation to get to "telling wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:06 PM
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Redpillers absolutely despise any woman unlucky enough to end up being a single mother, no matter now they ended up that way. Sounds like you just have an imaginary boogie man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:38 PM
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Michael Knowles said in a semi-recent clip that he was too masculine to understand how to use the washing machine. That guy is about as obvious a closet-case as I have seen in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:36 PM
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Get real fuckin tired of people telling women who don’t want kids that they’re worthless if they don’t breed Who is actually saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:35 PM
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I would say it is impossible not to fail at being a parent Being a good parent isn't hard to understand, it's just more work than most people are willing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:35 PM
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Older women get high on controlling younger women with fear. It's been going on since we've had church ladies, and the feminist church ladies are as bad as any that came before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:33 PM
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Women tend to be very concerned with what is fashionable, and being reasonable just isn't fashionable for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:44 PM
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respectful women. This just isn't stylish for women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:30 PM
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A blog? Your opinion is a regurgitation of some stupid blog? Again, link directly to the data or stop pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:57 PM
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Link directly to the data or stop pretending to have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:03 AM
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Are you familiar with this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:13 AM
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But they didn't, they cited a study. Not a real one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:15 PM
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It's not on everyone else to come up with a "rebuttal" to every nonsense claim someone pulls out of their butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:09 PM
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"Statistically speaking..." (Statistic came from butt)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:56 PM
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And of course none of them actually support the wild claims. Typical feminist blog...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:54 PM
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Up to 30% of men say they would rape if they could get away with it. According to bullshit research that doesn't actually disclose the specific questions they supposedly asked the students in one researcher's class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:58 AM
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The GSS results are not a rando's personal impressions. You are making your own extrapolations based on that data. Those came out of your rear end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:21 AM
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it's not meta research, dude It's not even metaresearch. It's one internet rando's personal impressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:56 PM
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The point I just mentioned was supported by GSS trends regarding female sexual partner count. Now you are doing your own meta-research and stating your conclusions as fact. The real problem is that most people on here don't bother to research the overall topic OP or whoever is talking about I don't have any faith in a random redditor's ability to research the overall topic. "OH SEE U MADE THIS ERROR WITH THIS SINGLE STUDY HERE HAHA GOTCHA U FUKER!" If someone makes a bad claim about one study, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:02 AM
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The general thrust of the point is most often correct. Yea, maybe according to fantasy. The quality of the data is how we determine what is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:30 AM
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And even more people pull grandiose generalizations out of their butts based on weak data and speculation made by researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:10 AM
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Women may have more friends and social contacts, on average, than men do But how often do they secretly hate and malign each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:03 AM
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That article is full of stupid, dated clichés that don't reflect any reality in the last 40 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:03 AM
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He was an abusive coke-head, drunken asshole, but not violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:15 PM
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No, it isn't. Men don't try to fix women like that. That's something strictly for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:37 PM
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When did I say that he was violent? You don't need to be violent to be an addict POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:37 PM
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He never got violent with her as far as I know, but he was definitely a badly behaved, addict POS. It's very, very common among doctors and lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:43 PM
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Don't even need to. Just look at the genre. This is popular reading crap aimed at women. That's like telling me to read one of Sean Hannity's books before forming an opinion. Am I wrong? Does it even attempt to source it's claims at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:39 AM
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So back up the specific claims with links directly to the data that justifies them. Of course, you can't, because this is just a stupid, popular reading book aimed at stroking biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:32 AM
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Dude she isn’t the only one. She isn't even one in the first place. both genders have representatives in that boat. Except they don't really. This is a thing that women do. Edit: and no it wasn’t “solely” due to her claims alone. Notice how they are vague as to the number? Maybe she got one, and we don't even know if it was from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:30 AM
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“i can fix her” is a popular meme in many male groups, its not a gendered thing lol What? That's a thing that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:59 AM
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There are female criminals who also get marriage proposals and love letters etc from men like Casey Anthony That was solely according to Casey Anthony, who was a mega-narcissist and pathological liar. Richard Ramirez had rooms full of fan mail and literal groupies showing up at his trial and doing interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:55 AM
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no one goes into a relationship wanting to be abused. Maybe not wanting, but definitely knowing that it will happen. Some women are just addicted to complete shit-show relationships. Got a few of those in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:51 AM
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Are you of low socioeconomic status? And, if so, can you see how that influences mate selection? Ask that to the (raging alcoholic and coke-head) doctor my cousin recently married, then eventually divorced. He is pulling in about 400k/yr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:47 AM
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And you have to ignore red flags that whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:44 AM
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they are, they do not choose them knowingly. This I don't buy at all. So many intelligent women go back over and over to the same dirtbag or a carbon copy. Codependence and relationship addiction is a wild world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:43 AM
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i've read "why does he do that?" by Lundy Bancroft Looks like pseudoscientific, pandering rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:42 AM
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you desperately want to brow beat women who obviously don't find you attractive into being in relationships with you This is the painfully stupid idea that the feminists around here always want to project onto men. No one wants anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to. If a morbidly obese, unshowered man felt that he was entitled to a supermodel, he would be criticized too. Does that mean anyone is trying to force him to have sex with anyone? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:16 PM
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You are making absurd demands of someone who obviously didn't make up the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:26 PM
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If there isn't some objective criteria, then you are just stroking some adjunct's ego. With STEM degrees, there's an objective criteria. Outside of that, it gets to be a crap shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:16 PM
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Ask the people who made up the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:46 AM
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In college I went to parties pretty much every weekend when I was single (and when I wasn't) Was this recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:36 AM
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A lot of higher education is subjective bullshit that just involves validating the political beliefs of the faculty in charge of your grades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:33 AM
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Also not being weird about your wife earning more than you to the point you need ED medication for it. Men pick the dumbest things to get emasculated over If the women didn't think less of them for it, they wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:32 AM
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women are naturally better suited for the education system How do you figure? There are too many thumbs on the scale for that to mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:25 AM
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Seems irrelevant to me. It's just how it is for women and men. If you can understand that this is how it is for women, then you can understand that this is how it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:43 AM
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What are you linking? Women don't do heavy labor jobs, even when they can. They don't tend to work out in the weather or in any kind of harsh or dangerous conditions. They are fine letting men do it, and they don't give a damn if those men every find love or commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:34 AM
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Ask the same of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:32 AM
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That's just silly. Sure, there are a small number of women who are into it, but that number is very small and the overwhelming majority have a huge ick factor over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:31 AM
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You seem to be the only one who doesn't get it. If you can understand that women get the ick for bi and low-status men, then you can understand that men get the ick from promiscuous women. No one needs to offer further explanation. There really isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:28 AM
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The difference is BOTH men and women are laboring. No, the men are doing the jobs that the women are unwilling to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:27 AM
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You agreed with his characterization, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:26 AM
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I DIDN'T read the book, just a synopsis So you are definitely talking out of your ass here. I doubt you read this book, Don't project your own ignorance onto me. Educate yourself. I'm not sure your point about her blaming men I was responding to what I thought was a critique of the book, but you were just talking out of your ass. Women can be cruel to other women as men can be. Women are fully formed people with layers, not dissimilar to men. So do you think that Chesler's view on the subject ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:25 AM
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they act like ick is some obvious, no-further-explanation needed thing. It is. I don't know who is saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:20 AM
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Your logic fell flat again. I didn't say that women aren't laboring. The women just don't mind if a less attractive men never find love or commitment so long as they keep driving the trucks, laying the bricks, emptying the portajohns, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:18 AM
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Do you not understand the "ick" feeling women get about certain men that are low-status, bi, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:16 AM
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Which means that it's a stupid, circular argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:14 AM
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They speak about them like scum. No, that's feminists. Feminists hate sex workers with a vitriol you used to only find in the churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:13 AM
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want a caste of women as sluts/sex workers who are never expected to find love and commitment herself lol. Kind of like how most women feel about unattractive men, except for their labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:11 AM
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They want their friends to think their woman is not only extremely desirable, but very choosy, and she chose him This is such a goofy caricature. Promiscuous women give men the "ick" in a relationship context. There is nothing special about her choosing him because plenty of other men have had her, or even "could" have her. Or they just know that trying to make a hoe into a housewife never works out. Men see it as low status for a man to be with a woman has been sexually available to many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:08 AM
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Chesler makes a refrain of blaming men, but that's the genre she was writing in. Do you disagree with her characterization of the way women treat other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:11 PM
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there are loads of children in the porn industry What? Call the fucking FBI!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:57 PM
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You don't know much about statistics, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:44 PM
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I never said it was universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:41 PM
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Most women are at least perimenopausal in their 40's. Add in the excessive use of antidepressants and it shouldn't be much of a surprise that many women in that age group simply aren't interested in actual sex. That isn't to say that they aren't interested in sexual content and media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 PM
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Sounds sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 PM
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Cheaters are fundamentally bad people because of the deception and manipulation involved. If someone wouldn't be with you if they knew the real deal, then lying to manipulate them into staying with you makes you a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:57 PM
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passport broing works they just have to be themselves and women in poor countries totally desire mediocre Western men? Kind of. There are some countries where just having blue eyes gives a guy a similar dating advantage to a woman having perfect tits. And it's not just poor women who want to move to the US. Lawyers, accountants, doctors, etc. are also eager to date reasonably attractive American men even causally, assuming that he knows how to handle himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:28 PM
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Try reading Phyllis Chesler's "Woman's inhumanity to woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:41 PM
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OP didn't invent the term
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:09 PM
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since sex work is becoming more and more normalised due to feminism. Feminists hate sex work aside from onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:04 PM
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Not much of a basis for a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:46 PM
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Still no lmao. This is just fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:52 AM
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I have a relative who is all over facebook every day talking about how amazing and empowered she is as a single woman. When she drinks, she talks about killing herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:47 AM
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Granny fetish is nothing new...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:45 AM
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Anyone who needs that much soothing and numbing has some serious problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:44 AM
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that women will "hit the wall" and regret not going for those guys when we were younger This is such dramatic horseshit. No one cares about their regret. It's just describing the situation as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 AM
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A lot of women basically have a dead sex drive by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:32 AM
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So are you relying on crappy, unreplicated social science studies to make all of these hysterical generalizations, or did you just pull them out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:11 AM
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That's not the young men. That's the society, which is basically entirely driven by older people because of the culture. They made it absolutely impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:08 AM
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which most parents currently do More data pulled from the ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:05 AM
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a guy yelling over the phone gives me flashbacks Isn't that something that you are projecting onto them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:04 AM
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the lifelong habit of making others happy Maybe in the 50's. Since then feminism has come to revere the yapping, irrational shrew.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:02 AM
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Women don’t need research to learn what happens when irate men don’t get their way. Drywall all over the world illustrates how men behave when frustrated, Sounds like you just had a childish, trash father and sought out men like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:00 AM
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You may be interested in knowing that there is a large body of social science research that shows women are less willing to engage in discussion than men. And it is overwhelmingly pseudoscientific, unreplicated trash pumped out as PR for the colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:59 AM
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Because time after time, they would get one little thing in their head, then let it sit there and fester until it ended up with a big outburst. Then it would be a two hour "fight" where I'm managing them while they lose their shit. Then, after that, it would be the same thing again. Tears, apologizing for "getting crazy" and promising to be more open with what's bothering them. It would always turn out to be a very small issue, but they'd left it unattended, like a splinter that starts to get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 AM
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But that's most red pill guys and passport bros... Another insight pulled straight from the ass. So you had a couple of weird friends. That doesn't justify a hysterical generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:55 AM
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I think the word applies well here. He has become exhausted from too many bad experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:52 AM
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Gaslighting, lol? Do you even know what that means? You pulled a hysterical generalization out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:49 AM
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That makes sense up until you see how women actually treat other women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:37 AM
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it's possible some TRP thinkers may have been dating women with undiagnosed bipolar disorder, and it kind of interested me. I think this is what is going on behind a lot of negative generalizations about women (not just bipolar, but also borderline and narcissist), but women also tend to let mentally ill women lead them. The mentally ill ones don't have the same aversion to open conflict, so the healthier women tend to back down and follow out of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:34 AM
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then they act as if she’s invisible or are rude af. This says a lot more about your social circle than it does about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:27 AM
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so I think a lot of the men who claim to be red pilled are usually autistic According to the data you just pulled out of your ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:15 AM
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Just look at the Latin root of the word. Masculine simply means "of men" and Feminine simply means "of women".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:05 AM
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Traditionally yes Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:04 AM
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I think spamming multiple replies to the same comment counts as a meltdown, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:18 PM
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The only difference is the exchange of currency. If the shoe fits, wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:18 PM
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Why does every feminist have the same meltdown every time they lose an argument, lol? That doesn't even make any sense in the context of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:09 PM
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I think what you are getting at is women who settle hard and then regret it. I know that when I turned 30, I started getting a lot of messages on dating apps from women at a particular point in their life, usually in their early 30's. There was a palpable desperation to move things quickly toward marriage, and I could see that it was a recipe for disaster. Many women go through a phase where their priorities shift quickly and drastically. The priority of how attracted they are to a man and what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:42 PM
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A cum bucket is a cum bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:50 PM
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Then you only 'had' them in a way that a man 'has' an escort, which is a very shallow relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:56 AM
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once you had someone out of your league. 'Had' in what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:56 AM
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I also had a cabbage patch kid and my sister was as into Laser Tag as anyone else. This sounds more like your family members were desperate to hang onto sentiments that largely faded out about 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:12 AM
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No, I had a toy kitchen in the 80's along with a toy chainsaw and realistic looking assault rifles and Uzis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:53 PM
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Women are the ones who use these terms and they already see each other as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:59 PM
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Because women are socialized to care for the home, raise the children, cook the food, do the laundry Where are women being socialized to do this in the last thirty years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:56 AM
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The whole porn addiction hysteria is driven by Mormons and other fundies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:29 AM
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You couldn't possibly be that naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:21 AM
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And some even like to be spanked. Better clutch your pearls, doctor!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:16 AM
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No need. I think we can all take your word for it, relying on the authority of the esteemed degree that you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:57 PM
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I think human sexuality is too complicated to generalize, Doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:54 PM
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just because you can find a trauma victim who wants you to participate in their self-harm doesn't men you have to or should do it Well this is a ridiculous generalization...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:54 PM
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How much of that trash was actually replicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:49 PM
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Yea, looks like unreplicated horseshit from psych and gender studies research (and popular reading, lol). Why don't you link directly to the data that supposedly justifies your absurd claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:19 PM
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it's a scientific journal Psychology Today, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:33 PM
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So I can find another hysterical blog, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:52 PM
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It doesn't get more authoritative than a blog within a blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:01 AM
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At one time it was more of a mildly homoerotic fraternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:51 AM
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People often pick an identity and then rationalize whatever validates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:48 AM
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You speak as if women are objects. No, that's just absurd projection. The world is not some all you can eat buffet, where you can just choose what girls to date/fuck As long as there is agreement by both parties... Dudes problem isn't the women. As I said, this isn't a value judgement. Women in the US are going to have lower sex drives for a variety of reasons. Men shouldn't think that this is the only way to live. Ofc if a dude wants sex, but then spends time shaming those same girls for having…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:02 PM
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You do realize men have higher rates of addiction right? Yes, but they tend not to lose their sex drive over the types of things they are taking. If women prefer antidepressants to men to have a better quality of life what do you care? Did you even read what I actually wrote? I said it isn't a value judgement. It's just how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:43 PM
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My point is that this is neither sudden nor universal. We have a lot of asexual and demisexual people generally for a whole lot of reasons. The standard is to be a fat drunk with a terrible diet of processed crap. Women are even more likely than men to take antidepressants, and the women who would make up OP's social options are probably in the age range that is most likely to use them. Add the other medications, the copious alcohol, constantly stewing in tribalist anxiety and anger toward men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:31 PM
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A lot of this is a matter of perspective. Other countries have lots and lots of women who haven't made themselves basically asexual with antidepressants, birth control and hysterical ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:49 PM
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Do you understand that the post is criticizing hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:24 PM
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As I said, you just didn't understand the research. Those aren't referring to how many rapes happened or didn't, but how many police categorized as "cleared", "unfounded", or in the vast majority of cases "undesignated".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:05 PM
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Currently 97% of rapist go free. Ok, this is just hysterical. There is no way to measure how many rapes occur, or how many rapists there actually are. Since under 5% of rapes are false More hysterical nonsense. Whoever wrote the stupid blog you are regurgitating this all from didn't understand statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:09 PM
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No, that's how you get people worked up over nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:38 PM
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Men supposedly live 12 years longer if they are married Where did that claim come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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Hey, if she can find captain save-a-hoe, more power to her. high risk of being left when diagnosed with a long term illness are just a few to name No, this was just another hysterical myth that flew around the feminist coops. The people saying that nonsense didn't understand the science. but you will become resentful when you realise that most of the things you are doing are to benefit your kids and your partner Your partner will be facing the same thing. Don't take the job of marriage if you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:33 PM
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Show the results and you will have listeners. You can't honestly convey the science without a ton of nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:27 PM
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Between the obesity, birth control, the antidepressants and the raging political ideology, a lot of American women have basically made themselves asexual. It's not like this other places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:25 PM
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Jesus dude. Why are you obsessed with making this about Catholicism? Did you miss the part where 5 Catholics overturned Roe? Clinton is pro-choice. Out of one side of her mouth, sure, but then she is hyper-conservative in her actions and support for evangelicalism. Maddow is Catholic, yes, but she’s also pro-choice and a lesbian. That's like being a black klansman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:18 PM
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Not entirely by themselves, no. It was quite literally overturned by Catholic justices. Can we agree that “modern feminism” has NOT been working to overturn Roe? I never suggested it was as a whole, only that it became to weak to offer and substantive resistance and that prominent figures were working against abortion rights through their religious affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:20 PM
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yeah catholocism isn't incoherent Right. Y'all really are drinking Jesus and the pope has a magic being that ensures the veracity of what he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:52 PM
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Can we agree that the Catholics overturned Roe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:49 PM
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It wasn't the evangelicals who overturned Roe, though they deserve plenty of blame. It was the Catholics. Modern feminism was so weak by that point that it gave no substantive resistance to the decades-long Catholic legal push to chip away and finally destroy federal abortion rights. Besides, religion and feminism have always been intertwined, especially in the waves that came after the civil rights movement. Gloria Steinem was a big Catholic who gave homilies at Catholic churches. Hillary Clint…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:37 PM
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It actually wasn’t at all. Yes, it was. And even if you disagreed, telling someone they’re hysterical and making things up in their head I was treating them like a grown-up. That's what people do when they see women as equals. it is a perfect example of emotional abuse No, that's more of the ideological hysteria that drives this whole feminist hate movement. No one here is a victim. When you make stupid claims in a debate, you get appropriately criticized. Don't like it? Don't try to adult. that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:24 PM
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Feminism was/is a movement for creating equality for women. That's the chant, but no one believes that anymore. Besides, the call these days is for equity, not equality. Just like the civil rights movement was about equality for black Americans. And women. It was about equality for everyone, not the nutty tribalism that blowhards like Gloria Steinem ushered in. Feminism is an egalitarian movement at its core No, these days it's just a hate movement driven by pseudoscience and fox-news quality jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:01 PM
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Because in the baby boomer era feminism was making strides towards equality and progress in human society. That was the silent generation. The baby boomer era was what gave us Girl Power, religious nuts like Gloria Steinem, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:58 PM
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All of the big advances were part of the civil rights movement. Modern feminism just fumbled our abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:57 PM
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Who do they have to blame for that? Feminism started working against itself and lots of women are pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:55 PM
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Wait until you learn that colleges are boosting admissions for males to increase the number of men in college. What are you referring to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:53 PM
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If you look at the total history of feminism then sure, it’s done a lot of good. Most of those accomplishments were made as part of the civil rights movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:52 PM
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By that rationale, it's pointless to make sweeping statements about evangelicals, but many of those statements are legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:45 PM
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If you can read and understand their “education “ and challenge it directly, theyliterally have nothing left to say but “I feel like it’s right”. They cling to the pseudoscientific crap that gets published out of the gender studies departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:44 PM
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when people refer to things that are just their perspective, the way they feel things are, as if its some sort of objective reality. This is happening all over this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:43 PM
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that’s being a feminist No, that's called being an egalitarian. Feminism would be much more popular if it was actually about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:42 PM
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Sounds like more data pulled from the ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:41 PM
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Then by this logic you could also make the argument that older men are trying to control older women. No, that's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:40 PM
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Calling you hysterical and dismissing your perspective when you’re sharing lived experiences - emotional abuse. Did you see what I was responding to? It was literally fair to call hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:36 PM
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No it's not. Women don't try and say the babies wanted it. Again, this is just a weird distinction that has nothing to do with the point. By your logic, all women need to be taught not to kill babies for attention. Can you find me a survey where 1/3 of women say they would kill a child if they could get away with it? No, that was just a hysterical rumor that circulated among the purple hair types. Actually look at the survey and you will see that no one said any such thing. (facts that supposedl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:32 PM
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Sure, can you show me an instance of a woman saying... This is just a weird, arbitrary distinction you pulled out of your butt. The fact is that women do this, so by your rationale, all women need to be taught not to. No, it's not. That's just silly. You wonder why the movement has lost so much status over the years. It is literally a negative, class-based generalization. It's not You might as well just start stamping your feet. "Facts I don't like aren't real!" Ok, what "fact" do you have in mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:47 PM
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There are also serious consequences that didn't used to exist. You couldn't get kicked out of your school for asking someone on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:40 PM
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Those are exactly the kinds of places that will ban you over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:39 PM
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It's not, because those women don't try and defend themselves by saying the baby wanted it. They still do it. That must mean that all women need to be taught not to. No, It's a negative, class-based generalization. That's a slur. Yes, the patriarchy is gendered. Purposely... The fact that you believe "patriarchy is bad" means... It's another gender-slur. Wait till you find out about the wage gap. More imaginary bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:00 PM
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The average 23 year old guy is more attractive than Jason Momoa. Right. The average 23 year old American guy is an overweight virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:37 PM
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This is a thing, because boys and men shouldn't rape people and, for some reason, dudes on Reddit find this to be a controversial statement. That's like saying we need to teach girls not to kill infants for attention. Toxic masculinity is a huge problem. Toxic masculinity is a bigoted gender-slur. Not a thing. The message is clear. Obviously "patriarchy" is gendered as well. Because jobs are still discriminating against people based on their gender and race. But not against women...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:31 PM
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What groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:30 PM
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Then just don't be surprised when you are criticized for pulling nonsense out of your ass and calling it fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 PM
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And when one pulls a claim of fact out of their ass like Gojo, feel free to criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:16 PM
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There's a reason in men's fashion all of the male models are young men. Except that isn't even true. Men's fashion is much more geared toward the notion of power and financial success, not physical beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:14 PM
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Don't state your personal impression as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:13 PM
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That's just a silly analogy. Adults don't have that kind of control over each other solely because of age difference, and she can probably find another partner faster than he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:13 PM
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Is it control or is it sharing information? It's control when you don't start out with respect for another adult's choices. You cool also argue that older men are trying to control older women because they don’t want their game exposed. These crazy church ladies aren't exposing anything but their own instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:12 PM
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Women are better at community than men They are better at conformity. We share experiences and advise each other. And then shame anyone who doesn't conform with reputation destruction. This has all been studied. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077801202239009?journalCode=vawa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:11 PM
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I think you don't realize how common that sort of thing actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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Plenty of twenty-somethings would cut each other's throats to be approached by Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:09 PM
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Wouldn’t you want to explain to them why they’re making a bad choice and to not make them? Again, this is the church lady thinking. No, I don't go around sticking my nose in other adults' business. I expect others to respect my choices and that's how I behave as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:14 AM
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You used an extreme example so I matched it. Mine was an actual example from real life though. Not every insane person is a boomer. I never suggested anything remotely close to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:13 AM
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Therefore they could use some assistance from older people to help them with their decision making. Said every crazy, controlling old church lady ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:43 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. There's no rational reason to think that those old farts melting down at walmart are master manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:42 AM
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How is it controlling if old women are just telling young women about their experiences? They aren't. They are generalizing about this type of relationship. If the woman chooses to ignore those warnings or believes the man she is interested in is different then there is nothing that keeps her from acting on her interest. They all still have to deal with the disrespect and intrusion. Gay people can similarly just ignore people who don't respect their choices, but it is still a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 AM
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The age is relevant to the beauty. Everyone agrees that younger women are more beautiful, even the older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 AM
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Just be careful about generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:34 AM
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So now this has nothing to do with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:33 AM
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Some people do. By that rationale, the boomers starting fights at walmart when they are asked to wear a mask are children, and age has nothing to do with it. I don't see any reason for you to disrespect the choices that other adults make about their own bodies when they aren't asking for your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:32 AM
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naivety is part of that "beauty". That's the projection. The beauty itself is more than sufficient. Why do you think fashion manufacturers use young models to sell products to older women? Everyone agrees on the beauty aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:15 AM
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And yet we don't stay children forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:14 AM
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I don't doubt that you had bad experiences, but that doesn't make it rational to project this onto large numbers of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:02 AM
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Yes, most women would be very repulsed to find out they had a relationship with someone who would hit on 13 year old girls. Anyone would, but what does any of that have to do with consensual adult relationships among adults generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:01 AM
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You are stating all of this as fact, but it's really all just pulled out of your rear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:00 AM
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Just got to do with anything anyway? Most older men aren't celebrities. That's what I'm saying. You are generalizing your experience as if more attractive women wouldn't have a different experience of it. Lots of twenty-something women would cut each other's throats to be approached by Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:51 AM
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A disproportionately high number of these people are pedos who would go younger if it was legal. That sounds like some hysterical nonsense that you imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:49 AM
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That probably has more to do with the feminist idea that twenty-something women are children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:48 AM
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I'm in my mid 20s, and even I can recognize that a man 16 years older than me is an established grown man who just wants me because I'm easier to control and have less adult experience. Sounds to me like an imaginary boogie-man. Is it so hard to believe that men think women in their 20's are more beautiful just like women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:46 AM
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To me it just looks like you are trying to hold yourself out as superior to other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:45 AM
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Some people might dissaprove of the relationship Some people disapprove of same sex relationships. Shouldn't we be focusing on the assholes violating boundaries instead of the adults who are making their own choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:44 AM
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Does that really have anything to do with consensual relationships among adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:42 AM
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Those older women know they were pursued by older men with bad intentions so they’re warning younger women. Old women love to control younger women under the auspices of their safety. Been going on for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:41 AM
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Most of those guys are fucking around the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:39 AM
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I still remember being a 11 year old girl and being catcalled by older men. Do you really think those ped's are representative of every mixed-age adult relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:38 AM
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When I was 18 I thought men over 28 hitting on me was creepy lol and so did everyone I knew. That probably has as much to do with the ones who were actually hitting on you and which one's weren't. A lot of women who think this is so gross would immediately melt if Daniel Craig approached them looking like 007. The thing is that the great majority of women's experience with this phenomenon exclusively involves some old weirdo in sweatpants at walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:36 AM
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She's playing outside her league. Doesn't she have more options?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:34 AM
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we just don’t recommend that young girls under 25 date much older men Are they really asking for your advice here or are you just nosing in on other adults' personal business? because of the risks and consequences that come with that. Which are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:34 AM
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I don't understand why you think you know better than the choices other adults make for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:33 AM
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Women like that have issues According to the data you just pulled out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:31 AM
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You really don't seem to understand how this works. They couldn't run away to lower status men because those men were basically enslaved or dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:27 AM
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You aren't making any sense. The women weren't choosing anything in those situations. They were the property.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:45 PM
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Most men did not reproduce while the opposite was for women for a reason. Right. That reason was that the men were essentially fighting it out and dividing up the property among the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:28 PM
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This was documented by congressional investigations and the FBI None of that bullshit is reliable. It's all conclusory statements that need to be taken purely on their Scout's Honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:36 PM
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The majority of very poor people are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:20 PM
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I thought this was old news. Gloria Steinem was a CIA employee for her entire rise to fame. https://uscpublicdiplomacy.org/blog/feminist-was-spy The ostensible target was the Soviet Union, but I think it is clear looking back, especially considering the FBI's role in the Black Power movement, that undermining the Civil Rights Movement was the real objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:58 PM
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Nope. People forget that look’s effect ur status and gives a hint about ur ability to protect and provide. In the ancient world, women didn't have much of any say in the matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:53 PM
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Oh, yea. Asian guys definitely don't like tits, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:28 PM
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Grownups link directly to the data and make their arguments in their own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:40 PM
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Frankly, for most of human history, women's opinion of men just didn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:39 PM
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T&A never goes out of style for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:28 PM
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“Their own instincts” are to choose men who are more likely to have sons that will have sex with many future women in order to pass on their own genes. This is the sexy son hypothesis. Throughout history, a man's ability to reproduce had a lot more to do with his resources and capabilities rather than his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:26 PM
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Muscle mommy/dom” is a relatively recent one This fetish has been around forever. big butts with thin waist are something new as well etc. Media actually made for men has always had a focus on T&A. The whole skinny thing has always been something that appeals to women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:24 PM
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https://slatestarcodex This isn't a legitimate source for a claim. If you want to use some data mentioned there, just link directly to the original data itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:21 PM
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Women don't know what they want any more or less than men do. Uhh, this is just silly. Men have a much more direct, instinctual drive for women's bodies. It's why you could publish a magazine with nothing but pictures of women's bung holes and men would buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:17 PM
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I just wouldn't call that wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:42 PM
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When you paint every person with issues as inherently bad and always at fault Thanks, Kathy Newman. This your second really irrational interpretation of what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:20 PM
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I don't think you're anywhere near ready for the subtleties of the challenge that is marriage. I don't think anyone is ready for the kind of crazy marriage you are describing. People live in communities and the community has always been a powerful force in seeing to it people behaved well in marriage. Just be honest before marrying someone that you plan to run to the group chat for validation. That way they at least know what they are getting into. If a relationship is definitely on its way out …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:19 PM
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I understand that people fuck up in relationships, but complaining about an SO publicly is definitely an example of fucking up in a relationship and a sign that the person complaining has a long way to go before being ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:16 PM
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and if you're into divorcing early as soon as there is trouble so you can then just immediately say whatever to whomever about the crazy ass behaviour That is also a really unhinged interpretation of anything I actually said. but most people feel that having made a commitment sort of warrants sticking with it through a bit of hassle How does that require complaining about your SO in group chats or on social media? I personally think it's best not to ever have a relationship with anyone at all ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:47 PM
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Dust in the wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:38 PM
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I never said that people shouldn't talk to their friends about their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:36 PM
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He thinks people getting help is a bad thing That is a completely absurd interpretation of anything I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:35 PM
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Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:32 PM
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Although, I vent, I still try to present both sides of a story. It's basically humanly impossible to do a good job of that. Communicating is good, but sometimes it leads to more aggression, burnout and not solving any problems. If it gets to the extent of seeking validation outside the relationship, that's a significant red flag for the person and the relationship's longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:31 PM
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I didn't suggest that anyone should not ask for help when trying to escape a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:29 PM
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Keeping your mouth completely shut about the things that are wrong... This is such an extreme interpretation of what I said. I'm just talking about people complaining about their SOs in group chats and on social media. It's however definitely something strategic that should be considered. If you're having problem because of his behaviour it probably is foolish to create a false reality to present to the world that completely hides that the problem that is destroying you is even possibly a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:28 PM
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That all just sounds like someone who isn't ready to be in a serious relationship in the first place, and this definitely isn't something that is limited to teenagers. Lots of 30 and 40-somethings do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:20 PM
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No, if you have a good friend they are going to be honest with you. What does that have to do with throwing a massive tantrum over a minor issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:16 PM
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That's ridiculous. You have basically two people making their own conclusions and generalizations about what other non-rigorous, shitty little experiments "suggest" collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:14 PM
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Sounds like they weren't ready for an adult relationship. That's not the thing you put out over social media or group chats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:11 AM
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I don't see what this has to do with complaining about an SO in a group chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:09 AM
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I think this is less of a problem, but you still have many of the same issues with external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:09 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com The hallmark of crappy little experiments, lol! A review of 56 studies conducted by linguistics researcher Deborah James and social psychologist Janice Drakich So they didn't even bother with an experiment. This was instead a crappy literature review where two idiots made speculation and hysterical interpretations on non-homogeneous data. Literature reviews like this aren't even substantively peer-reviewed in the first place. Welcome to the field of psychology. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:26 AM
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Which means, if a woman is actually talking equally as much as a man, she's PERCEIVED to be taking more. Assuming you can take some crappy little experiment and make a huge generalization based on it. Good thing that's not how science works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:22 AM
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similar to that study where in a group, if women spoke about 50% of the words, the men were under the impression that women lead the conversation, but 30% meant it was "equal". You shouldn't read too much into that pseudoscientific crap. It's never rigorous and no one even tries to replicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:20 AM
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I have seen women throw massive tantrum to their boyfriends over a minor issue This is sooooo common these days. You would see this in the past, but everyone seemed to understand that it was bad behavior from a childish adult. Now it's like the norm and totally supported by their friend groups as if it is empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:43 PM
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There are certain..uh..folks whom you should not attempt to make a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:16 AM
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You are talking about a guy who was so morbidly obese and ill that he died at 40, and I still don't buy that he didn't get laid when he was touring with BOC. You are making my point for me. I never said it was magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:29 PM
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How exactly are you defining "status" here? Just having skill and talent gives you some kind of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:47 AM
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There is a power imbalance with wealth gap relationships. It's called financial abuse. Financial abuse isn't an automatic product of a wealth disparity, you have to have enough of a wealth disparity such that one partner can't survive and then you have to have the abuse actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:21 AM
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Just don't do it at your school, your job or anywhere you don't want to get arbitrarily banned for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:10 AM
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but I've never seen a woman that was combative/capable of being combative really engaging in that kind of behavior. Women that are capable of being direct don't need the deniability of a hypothetical situation or a blind test to get the answers they want to any question they have for or about the man they're with. You should meet a couple of my exes. They could do both on a professional level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:40 PM
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It's easy for good people to get isolated by their toxic family members. Not having a bunch of bad relationships is a good sign, but not making any effort to build good relationships is a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:38 PM
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Rather moot point. That's ridiculous. How fast you go down is a matter of tremendous consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:32 PM
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Why not look at it as the average man not being good enough? I only have what I have because I had what I had. Maybe these men are failing themselves, but that's also heavily influenced by how badly they were failed. I got lots of time to run free, surprisingly hardcore martial arts training, 1-on-1 music lessons, had five different people teaching me how to lift, got to ride motorcycles and shoot in grade school, etc. etc. etc. I thought my social life was boring, and it sucked relative to what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:56 PM
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Procrastination is not apathy, its the product of disassociation and unprocessed trauma. I'm not saying that it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:48 PM
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That's just a desperate false equivalency. Sedentary life and shit food destroy your body and your mental health. It's not just like anything else. Yes, you can smoke crack and damage yourself too, but you are trying to act like you aren't putting yourself in the shitter physically and mentally with that level of gaming and trash consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:47 PM
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Excessive gaming damages your physical and mental health, and excessive shit food intake damages your physical and mental health. If you choose to do that for the rest of your life, don't act surprised when you wind up exactly where that would land you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:41 PM
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Are you one of the few guys over 60 who didn't treat their body like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:27 PM
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There's no rocket science is understanding a morbidly obese man sitting in front of a screen for five hours a day and blaming his problems on everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:00 PM
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What do you mean by "the removal of hobbies"? Who is doing the removal?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:17 PM
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Just because you hate video games Did I say that I hate video games? These replies have been so hysterical. I really think that a lot of the manosphere has gotten even worse than feminism for this kooky black-and-white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:00 PM
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You are advocating the removal of hobbies This is absolutely hysterical. No one is talking about outlawing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:58 PM
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You tell men to go do things to get women that included changing who they are as a person. Someone suggesting that you listen to an audiobook while you play your fifth hour of videogames for the day isn't asking you to change who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:32 PM
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No, that's your victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:17 PM
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Most people can exercise what, 2 hours per day max? The folks I am talking about aren't exercising 2 hours per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:12 PM
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kids from big families Yes, but I think sometimes this gets into that weird fundy shit where people use their older children as nannies to handle the ridiculous amount of kids god told them to have and all of them suffer. Still I think if people know what they are in for and choose not to have kids it is usually a better deal for everyone than if they have kids and wind up resenting them and half-assing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:16 AM
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What you fail to realise is that most of the time men who choose activities such as video games and other indoor activities is mainly cause they are trying to fill in a void. I understand that part of it, and there is nothing very new about self destructive behaviors to fill a void. Many people just assume such men never tried before to get women. I don't assume that, but at some point the destructive behavior becomes something that requires the man to play his part to maintain. heal while doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:08 AM
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Yea, he pulled that number out of his backside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:16 AM
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"Vast majority" could mean anything from 99% to 90% to 85% because "vast majority" isn't a number. It's just a big majority. It's a reference to a pretty specific range of numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:41 AM
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Ok, the average man today doesn't really cut it then. I wouldn't look at it that way. We are seeing the results of massive, complex waves of factors. We all get handed our age and generation. So, a man would have to improve himself to be above average relative to current societal competition to be a viable candidate for dating, would you agree? I don't know, but all men have to constantly improve to deal with countless hazards, challenges, threats, survival, etc. This has always been the case. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:33 AM
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Oh god, you're actually asking me how an equation and a calculator works. We both know you pulled this number out of your rear. Stop trying to attribute it to some mysterious "calculator". You played with some websites and then came up with an arbitrary number that probably murders any semblance of statistical rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:26 AM
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Not at your fingertips, nor easily avaible, nor in high quality, nor with every song you can imagine no matter how obscure it is. But we agree that people could watch and listen to talented musicians all day, right? it's 2024 any influence a piece of literature will give you will be offset by 5 hours of content. What kind of content do you have in mind? If someone shot you and you shot yourself afterwards don't make the person that shot you innocent You never got shot. You faced a more challengi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:24 AM
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You keep thinking I'm doing this when it's really just a website. Who specifically came up with the number 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:23 AM
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I feel like a lot of young men today share the modern views.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:22 AM
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I guess the early exit of shop and home ec had as much to do with my region's inability to fund our school systems as the changing political landscape, but home ec was definitely a dirty word by the mid 80's in my area of the country. Still, those broken homes and the latch key life were why those generations had less exposure to child care. Boomers grew up in intact (if often miserable) families with more interaction among extended family members, church communities, etc. where they would have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:20 AM
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I think the boomers (and Xers and millenials at this point) who grew up in front of a TV or the very early net and came out ok-ish just plonked their own kids down in front of the net and figured it would all figure itself out. This definitely factors in. I saw all kinds of this shit, and I think a lot of it stems from resentment at having to do actual parenting. Millennials and exers were kind of the first generations to grow up in nuclear homes without a whole lot of involvement with extended …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:58 AM
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the vinyil is a disembodied voice while the person in the video is a breathing human being. We have had video of musicians for a long time too. Truth hurts or you can wrap your life around the fact that lord of the flies is not a reflection of human behavior but raw author nihilism. And just giving this sort of thing thought improves a young man. It is completely asinine to say that study of literature doesn't result in personal development. I do when those happens in this exaclty same order, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:53 AM
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No, the calculators outright tell you where the data comes for each possible figure Wait, for the 14%? What I don't buy is your ability to analyze several figures and come up with your own. EDIT: IT TURNS OUT THAT HE GOT THE NUMBER FROM A JOKE WEBSITE You just claimed that men fucked themselves over for choosing to enjoy their lives This is just hysterical. That's not what I said at all. You just got the backup with specifics I still don't see anything that would lead us to your 14% number. Give…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:42 AM
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Do you think men have gotten worse? I am trying to think of a way to answer this, but it's difficult. In terms of physical activity, diet, and self-development, yes, men have gotten worse. I don't think that translates to being 'worse' overall, although I think their mental health situation is going to suffer for this unique mix of challenges. date a guy from the era when you were young? Physically, definitely. As far as social skill and impressive talents like music and athletics, almost certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:37 AM
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and just decided it was easier not to go through all that hard work and heartbreak at all. I don't think it's that simple. Human motivation, anxiety, trauma, etc. is extremely complicated. Lots of people who have trouble losing weight have a lot of anxiety about the situation rooted in childhood. It's not really a "decision" directly, although there is some decision involved in not seeking help or a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah I remember that we had vinyil of every single imaginable song The basic point is the same. You don't need to be the greatest musician someone has ever seen or hear to impress people. No studying literature do not help you understand humans... This is just painful. You can argue anything, it don't make it any true not even useful. If you shot yourself or someone shot you the end is the same you got shot, in sum, the result was the same. I think this makes my point, right here. You get to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:20 AM
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For me, the "very basics" is our motivations for creating good habits. I don't think any men from any generation have been able to rely on that. Most people don't go to the gym at all, it's hyperbole to call that "catastrophic problems with basic motivations". If they don't do some kind of regular exercise, that shoe fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:10 AM
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Census data, theres a billion calculators for this online that effectively just calculate how many people in an age range fit certain characteristics. Thats also with me being generous and just keeping it those 3 exclusions. It sounds like something that came more from your own interpretation of many figures, and I'm not sure that's going to give you accurate numbers. But you dont really have an answer to the problem that is the state of the market. I never claimed to. Of that 14% Again, without…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:09 AM
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That kind of health problem won't necessarily manifest at 40, and I'm not sure that I would even agree that you are free of health problems now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:00 AM
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Instead I figured it was useless, no one would ever find me attractive, so don't even try. This is a big part of human experience, and I understand. It's not as easy as just telling someone to turn their life around, but at some point, we can see from a birds-eye view that there are a lot of extremely unhealthy habits that have reached epidemic levels in young men, and no one on the outside is going to be able to turn it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:58 PM
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So enjoy your life with what you like to do for yourself. Why shouldn't you? If you basically floor it on the road to obesity, that was what you chose for yourself in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:56 PM
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I hear it from men and women all the time. They say if you're going out, you should primarily be interested in whatever event it is, not just out to meet women. I don't hear anyone saying this kind of thing, and I would have no patience for that kind of advice if I did hear it. As I said, we are all responsible to some degree for the advice we choose to take. I think they say this because of the men who have no social skills and are obviously just hitting on women and not even pretending to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:54 PM
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I guarantee you that that amount of unhealthy activity has impacted your long-term health and will continue to for some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:51 PM
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Can we agree that every man has to do some amount of developing himself to be successful to any degree, and that this has always been the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:50 PM
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Of women 18-30, only around 14% are childless, unmarried and not fat. How did you come up with that 14% figure? EDIT: HE GOT IT FROM A NOVELTY CALCULATOR ON A BLOG but the conversation still continues to be "why dont you do more for scraps" Do you understand that I am not telling anyone to do more than men did in previous years? Video game addiction was not anywhere near as common as it is today. no one wants to work like a slave for 80 hours a week only to be able to afford a dollar menu meal f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:49 PM
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a woman can at any point go to youtube and see someone with 1000 hours playing the same instrument That's more or less been the case since we had vinyl. If they're shafted they aren't shafting themselves, they're just geting the shaft period. I would argue that they are also shafting themselves with self-destructive behavior. First one of the core of games is sound design People listen to beats while they play all the time. It's just one example of how a young man can make an effort to develop h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:45 PM
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I'm talking about sins related to healthy lifestyle, like bad diet and smoking or drinking to excess, not some notion of sexual sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:37 PM
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I don't think diet and gym is some magic solution. For obesity, it's an effective solution. What is usually missing is in person socialization in mixed gender groups. Yes, but even when those were more widely available, lots of men men would have still failed if they lived the same lifestyle they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:35 PM
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I'm not sure if diving into self-destructive habits is a reasonable interpretation of that advice in the first place. That said, we all have some responsibility for whose advice we choose to accept. Alternatively when they go out to meet women, they're told "you shouldn't be out here for women, but because you want to for its own sake". Who exactly is saying this kind of thig? It really flies in the face of human nature and history. When they go to the gym "do it for yourself, not to be attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:32 PM
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Referring to the "vast, vast, majority" of men is talking numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:47 PM
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And above you are pretty much describing the men who can't get it up, and we're not talking about them. That doesn't make any sense. Even if you can get it up, you won't have a very robust sex life you can't walk to the mailbox without wheezing. That describes a significant proportion of American men over 60. What I'm saying unequivocally is that your libido at 60 will not be what it was at 30. That doesn't mean that you can't bust one everyday if you are healthy at that age. You will produce le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:45 PM
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Very, very few of us have the drive to have sex every day. That is going to say a lot more about your social circle than about men and aging generally. The majority of American men over 60 have completely let themselves go, long before, and fail to meet even the most basic recommendations for diet or physical activity. That doesn't meant that there is anything about being 60 that prevents you from having a robust libido, or that there aren't plenty of 60+ men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:17 PM
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Yea, this is the imaginary boogieman that drives a great deal of modern feminist discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:08 PM
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but if whatever post cast is anything like PPD then I can see why the people on the show and even in the comments would be investigated. Investigated for what? I know it is a common talking point here that men want women to be forced into looks matched relationships and that women shouldn’t get a say in that. This is absolutely absurd. Be honest. You don't actually see anyone saying that. You heard in some hysterical political echo chamber that this is going on, and just accepted it as dogma.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:07 PM
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If you want to see numbers go do your own research. You pulled those numbers out of your butt in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:49 PM
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Probably applies to the vast, vast majority of men though. That sounds like data pulled from the butt. As you age you're more likely to see a decrease in libido, likely to take longer to get an erection, likely to struggle more with maintaining an erection, What specific ages are you talking about, and what percentage of men supposedly have these problems consistently? How does this compare when laid over women's decline in libido? less likely to be able to go again multiple times in one day. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:09 PM
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in an LTR you'll both go through peaks and troughs in libido. Uh, this definitely does not apply to all men. Lots of men would fuck every day into their sixties if they could, and lots of men can get it up in their 80's depending on medication and medical conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:07 PM
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Most don’t. That says one hell of a lot more about your taste in men than it does about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:20 AM
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I can't tell if we disagree on anything. If she is getting plowed by another guy that night, the first guy is probably getting tricked into buying even the coffee, unless he was never interested in her for more than casual sex, in which case she wouldn't expect him to take her on romantic dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:34 AM
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By that rationale, anyone would do anything as long as it would benefit them. We have been through this over and over. What you are trying to express is the trait of Machiavellianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:17 PM
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Why would men put more effort in than that when the women aren't even dating them exclusively at that point? Do you really expect them to spend hundreds of dollars on an evening with a woman just so she can go get posted by some other guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:03 PM
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It's really more simple than this. Women have an instinctual aversion that makes the idea of a man who can't get sex unattractive. Men have an instinctual aversion that makes the idea of a woman who gives up sex too easily unattractive for commitment. No one is "against" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:59 PM
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It literally says it on the data tables. BS. This sounds like data you pulled from your butt. What specific data tables justify your goofball interpretation that equated having the fantasy to "being fearful and having past traumas of Sexual assault"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:56 PM
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I lack the proper personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:58 PM
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Another hysterical reply from u/safinated? Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:20 PM
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That is why said trauma and fears makes up the majority of cases, atleast in the study OP posted. No, you just don't understand how to read that kind of scientific literature. Nothing about the data presented justifies that kind of claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:12 PM
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It was very close. No, your reply was absurd. Having aversive fantasies about past trauma or fears is a coping mechanism for many people. That doesn't lend to a conclusion that the only people fantasizing about SA are recovering from trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:48 PM
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A shocking number of y'all seem to be into exactly that and little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:46 PM
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So, according to you, being fearful and having past traumas of Sexual assault makes you somehow want more of it? Thanks, Kathy Newman, but that isn't anything close to what they wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:39 PM
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Men also are attracted to women that have Dark Triad personality traits. No, but they are willing to overlook them if she is attractive enough or if they are desperate. Women are actually drawn towards the traits themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:38 PM
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Feminism teaches this explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:23 PM
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Look at all the feminist protests on campuses when student groups tried to host speakers about men's issues. Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRasOrIoYQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4wljj7syY
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:11 AM
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What happens when men try to build those spaces? Obviously the feminists freak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:54 PM
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The fact that you think there are "male empowerment spaces" in real life shows me where you spend your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:16 PM
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I don't have a problem with self-professed echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:22 PM
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We can see a parallel in white supremacist discussion boards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:43 PM
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Why should they? Because they claim to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:05 PM
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If left alone and not curated any online space goes one or both of two ways. Totally deserted or porn, spam, trolling, illegal shit and aggression You are making a false dichotomy. Nothing about basic moderation requires allowing only one viewpoint on the relevant topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:05 PM
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They make a lot of nonsense replies where they just talk past the asker with self-affirming platitudes. Ask a clarifying question? Banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:03 PM
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Tell me you spend your whole life on reddit without...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:01 PM
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Most bigots don't like their assertions about the bad ones being questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:58 PM
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Or a mutually shared fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:57 PM
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Social media spaces in general tend to create alternate realities where anything that goes against the orthodoxy of the specific group and its moderators gets banned. This is basically what human spaces do to a large degree. Before social media, they just met and did this in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:56 PM
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The idea that people in power welcome the chance to refute opposition viewpoints is painfully naive. Except that not all subs are as censorious as the feminist ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:55 PM
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It's not an ideology that is heavy on logic or sense-making. Like other religions, it's more about feelings and bonding over a mutual enemy. I just want to know why they can't advocate for men too? Identity politics is never about their own identity. It's always about the identity of the enemy/bad guy. If they started advocating for men, then they wouldn't have a constant boogieman and the whole structure falls apart. What the reasoning behind blaming all men as being the abusive people, and rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:52 PM
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Stop trying to convince everyone that your shit smells like roses and enjoy cranking it to your porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:14 PM
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Just because your preferred porn comes in text form doesn't mean you aren't turning your own crank just like the guy watching hentai. Get off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:08 AM
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Ripped apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:02 AM
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A lot of that sentiment is in their relationships and attitudes towards women no. Men dropping effort in relationships when they get comfortable. Men leading a woman on for her attention but knowing damn well they do not want to keep her and surprised she is upset. A general lack of empathy in regards to how they treat us. Sounds like you are generalizing your experiences onto the entire world. The men you chose is a reflection of your own family and culture, not a reflection on billions of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:01 AM
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You shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously with such over the top hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:57 AM
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Sounds like a bunch of cliches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:49 AM
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recent overturning of Roe, that women are still not legally as free as men That makes zero sense at all. Religious nuts push pro-life policies. The rest of us suffer. This isn't something men are forcing on women. Most heavily religious people in the US are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:47 AM
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Or it's a crazy religion that hates men. It really depends on which phase it was in at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:29 AM
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Doesn't sound like you had a coherent idea in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:27 PM
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So stop being so coy and go one by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:19 PM
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Jumping in here, but the way to settle this would be to figure out when women were allowed to own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:10 PM
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Jumping in here, but it really is. Lots of baristas have postgraduate degrees. Same with servers and bartenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:54 PM
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I’m explaining why the perception exists. As I said, this is something that racists also do, using the exact same reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:15 PM
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Ok? If the shoe fits, wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:18 PM
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Got some half-decent mileage out of that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:39 PM
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Your thinking is basically the same as a lot of racists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:36 PM
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You can cherrypick some examples I bet, but obviously women are less likely to engage in socially destructive behavior. I've heard racists make this same argument to justify their opinons about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:23 PM
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Because for enough people clearly the worst things they’ve experienced or witnessed/heard were from guys? Does this justify bigotry towards other classes too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:22 PM
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because it really goes to "who started the paperwork". It's an administrative stat. Who murders who is an "administrative stat", and knowing who chose to get divorced is relevant in those conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:18 PM
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It's all an eco-chamber buddy! At least it's good for the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:16 PM
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how to classic dance to meet a lot of girls "unlock" a relation and sex. Did the dancing not work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:15 PM
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I think it’s just because everyone knows a man who has done something bad and it’s completely plausible that another man did the same thing. Sounds like classic bigotry. Imagine saying that about black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:12 PM
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He really should have included the sources in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:11 PM
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I think you are just desperate to hang on to this imaginary straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:46 PM
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Sounds like you had to reach back ten years to find one other person who made the same irrational interpretation/projection that you did based on the same vague anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:55 AM
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How is it imaginary? Because it came out of the land of pretend. We can read it here every day. Then link to it directly. It's common knowledge In your LARP...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:39 PM
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Looks like there was no point to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:38 PM
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Hysterical because of what she pretends is going on in men's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:37 PM
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What a terrifying thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:32 PM
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I think someone watching 90 day fiancé is an even bigger red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:17 PM
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What makes you obsess about these guys enough to pretend that you can read their minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:24 PM
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“your brain isn’t fully developed until age 25”, which might be true https://www.iflscience.com/does-the-brain-really-mature-at-the-age-of-25-68979
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:15 PM
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They want it to be easier for them to get into one Like clockwork, in comes the goofy mind reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:13 PM
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nono, "the wall" is a concept from men's subs What does this have to do with your hysterical mind reading fantasy about what is in the head of a man dating a younger adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:04 PM
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and so is 22 and 42 Who are you to judge what those adults choose to do with their own lives? I don't buy that you are any more wise than they are in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:02 PM
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Ppl in large age gap relationships are forcing it. I can never connect with guys more than 5 years older or 5 years younger than me. It's amazing how eager women are to generalize their own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:59 PM
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guys think that by dating someone younger they are taking revenge on women who didn't pay attention to them in their 20s. According to some bullshit you read on a feminist blog, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:52 PM
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It's still their revenge fantasy to date a younger woman and they already fight the imaginary LOL! The "science pilled" guy went into full fantasy mode and pulled an imaginary boogie man right out of his ass. Time to return that diploma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:51 PM
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This depends entirely on the type of woman that you are with. If she wants you as a father figure, this will repulse her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:25 PM
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How is this any more ragebaity than the mountains of posts from men about sex being mandatory What do you have in mind here? Can you link one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:02 AM
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Most women do most of the housework and childcare in the home. According to crappy, unreplicated survey research that only tells you about people's perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:58 AM
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If you just go out and date them, and respect their friendships no one will say that about you. That's hilarious. The feminist Peanut Gallery will imagine a secret nefarious motive if that's all they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:57 PM
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I think it's great; easier to weed out the crazies if you've spent years getting to know them or their families before dating them. That could also be very limiting in terms of finding someone if your views aren't perfectly in synch with the local culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:25 PM
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People used to be a lot more open to conversation generally. It is still like that in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:22 PM
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Is he after me and mine or is he just chilling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:39 PM
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For Down's, it's 1 in 1250 for a 25 year old mother to 1 in 1000 at age 31, 1 in 400 at age 35, and about 1 in 100 at age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:06 AM
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Marrying young and having kids young is worse and riskier Not for birth defects...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:51 PM
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The real caricature is the myth of the naive, virginal, submissive Asian woman who is magically available to Western men. You are the one carrying that myth around. Most men who go to other countries are going to be dating educated women who live comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:16 PM
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American women are so medicated that a lot of them are basically asexual anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:19 PM
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I wasn’t referring to successful or educated women I know. You have a ridiculous caricature in your head. I’m talking about the women who are available to men who are socially and sexually unsuccessful in their own country. Again, this is all some caricature in your mind. If a man really wants to test her affection and respect, he can ask to move in with her instead. Why wouldn't they just decide like any other couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:35 PM
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They truly have no idea, they believe the naive, unspoiled act and want to believe the self-created myth that they magically stumbled across a twenty year old virginal Russian or Asian woman. This is all just a hysterical caricature. There are countries where women react to blue eyes the way that men react to perfect tits, and plenty of successful women in those countries are interested in dating American men even casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:32 PM
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Passport bros come out as either predatory or losers. According to the caricature in your mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:24 PM
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Realizing men tend to be less empathetic. Realizing men tend to be more narcissistic Realizing men tend to only care about looks. Sounds like crappy survey research. What data do you have in mind here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:20 AM
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when women do this they are blamed for being mistreated by those men That's not a fair characterization. They are blamed for going back to the same type of man over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:47 PM
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She gets called a prude I don't believe that any men in the present era are calling women "prudes". Either it is women calling her that or you are making this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:22 PM
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Women are called prudes What, is this 1940? No one actually does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:57 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" is about as rational and coherent as "The Holy Trinity". There is no consistent meaning, and none of the definitions hold up to the most basic skepticism. It's just a way to voice irrational piss toward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:42 PM
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they are bored by girls who just listen,smile and look pretty. How can they be bored by something that doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:54 PM
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I don’t think she was empowered then either especially if it was out of desperation. Coming from someone who managed strip clubs for many years, it is seldom out of desperation. Most of those women were smart and could have sustained normal jobs. Many of them had college degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:04 PM
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Lots of women here in this sub will say openly that they see women in their early 20's as "babies".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:19 PM
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Jumping in here, but I would say that you don't have to tell any specific lies to be engaged in self-deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:00 PM
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You clearly have never looked after children I have, which is why I know how big a job it is. It would be a really bad idea to have kids with someone who isn't mature enough. he was scared something would happen to her and it be his fault, so he never took her out to give me a break, never watched her himself That's called raging incompetence. You picked wrong. You just picked wrong. This after letting me down in childbirth Again, this is all to some extent your own fault for picking someone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:11 PM
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You are talking in circles. If he was a driven and responsible adult, then he wouldn't have been "worse than useless" with your newborn. You just keep contradicting yourself over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:53 AM
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He was driven and very responsible ...and was worse than useless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:45 AM
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He clearly wasn't very driven or responsible. That doesn't come out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:02 AM
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I have no empathy for the people who chose someone who was a wonderful partner and turned out to be a shit parent People don't become shit parents out of nowhere. Also surveys are a valid source for research if it is a large enough sample size and able to be replicated. They aren't going to tell you much beyond the perceptions of the people being surveyed, and unless they have been legitimately replicated, it's nothing to use to make generalizations. But when it’s meta analysis of hundreds of st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:02 AM
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Do we hold men responsible when they choose a woman who “leaves because of walk away wife syndrome to take your alimony and fuck Chad?” Who else is going to be responsible? Hence, the warning is given. Life isn’t black and white. And yet red flags are ignored everyday. There is data to suggest even when both people work, women are doing more housework, Sounds like bullshit survey research. But men aren’t prepared to be anything more than a human ATM by their fathers and communities. This is a hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:19 AM
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That's silly. It's just another red flag that gets ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:46 AM
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No, they are told that their standards are why they are miserable, not that they should have had sex with anyone they didn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 07:19 PM
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It's like when women are told to stop complaining about the quality of men when they aren't happy with what their relationships have amounted to. That is very often interpreted as telling them that they should have had sex with other people, when really it is as simple as telling them to stop complaining about problems they made for themselves. No one was trying to solve the women's problems; they were just telling them to shut the fuck up already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:03 PM
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Who (specifically) is telling anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:55 PM
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This all needs to happen long, long before making children. If a woman chooses to have a child with a childish dirtball of a man, that isn't a reflection on men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:54 PM
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That's usually an irrational interpretation that women make when they are told to stop complaining about the results of their shit relationship choices. No one is telling them that they should have slept with men they weren't attracted to. They are being told to stop blaming men generally for their own bad choices in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:52 PM
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The breakdown is not due to kids. It's due to: 1. Men not pulling their weight to help their partner and kid. 2. Women not communicating their grievances to their partner. Funny there is no mention about simply choosing the wrong partner to have a child with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:49 PM
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It sounds like you just have an imaginary boogie man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:48 PM
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So the women hold no responsibility for choosing the wrong partner to have a child with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:48 PM
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I almost left my husband when our daughter was 5 months old for this very reason, he had let me down in my moment of need (childbirth) and was worse than useless when she was a newborn Don't you hold any fault here for choosing to have a child with someone who was clearly the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:46 PM
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You aren't making any sense. Who (specifically) is telling anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:44 PM
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I've begun to ponder that one of the greatest horrors and nightmares for men is to realize how little to not at all women think of them. It's the same way women can't handle the idea that people aren't trying to solve their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:24 PM
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It can be comforting for some men to know that the women who made them feel like shit in their younger years are now getting their just desserts. It's more about being irritated with their constant griping about men when their misery is their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:22 PM
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No one is asking women to pick men they don't actually want, but rather to stop complaining when the men they did pick didn't turn out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:19 PM
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Can we at least agree that no one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:13 PM
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As i've said: if only she dated me, i would have committed. That would involve her dating someone she didn't want to. No one is telling her to do that and no one wants that. That is purely your imagination. The point is simply for the women to stop complaining about their own choices and accept responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:09 PM
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I've seen women complain that men aren't committed, that they only pursue sex, that they aren't sure if they want to put a ring on her finger after an 8 year relationship This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Instead of taking responsibility for their own, shit taste in men, the problem must be with men generally. The fact of the matter is that those women probably had options to date men who would commit to them, but instead they decided to fuck men who weren't interested in com…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:05 PM
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This is all just hysterical projection. Don't try to play Dr. Freud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:58 PM
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I love how wanting to date someone you’re attracted to No one is telling women to date anyone they aren't attracted to. is considered self indulgent. The "exploring" relationships with dirtbags are self-indulgent, but no one is telling women not to have them. They are telling women to stop complaining about men when all those relationships didn't amount to much. Do YOU want to date someone you’re not attracted to? This is the hysterical projection that we see over and over. No one is telling wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:56 PM
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You are waxing on about the deep, underlying motivations of men when you really just have no idea. The reality is that no one is telling women to have sex with anyone they don't want to or to change their sex life at all. They are telling women to stop blaming men over problems of their own making, and they are warning men that women's behavior and espoused values align far more rarely than young men are told. That's really as deep as it goes. This kind of stuff: that if only those women lowered…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:50 PM
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but to give an analysis of why this phenomenon exist and what is driving it. You are just going with the old "secret nefarious motive" argument as a way of not actually engaging with what they are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:24 PM
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I'll add that some men not only have these bizarre revenge fantasies, but also have a way of thinking that if only those women lowered their standards and if only they wouldn't have been so slutty Deeeeep male psychology.....from a woman. This is some classic women-writing-men bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:22 PM
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most of the problems women constantly blame on men are actually self inflicted by women. But men are always to blame. This is what it is really about, right here. Women tend to assume that someone is trying to fix their problems, when this group is simply telling them to shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:20 PM
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I think that it is much more about wanting older women to stop complaining when their grief is totally a result of their own, self-indulgent choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:18 PM
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It's is just far more complicated than your black-and-white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:16 PM
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I dated amazing men but it's extremely obvious what kind of fathers they'd have been. As I said, the fact that you saw them as amazing even though they were too immature to be good fathers says more about your taste in men than it does about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:55 AM
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Because you only see rich men...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:54 AM
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"my baby cries when my husband takes her so I can't shower." Obviously incompetent parents are going to have a more difficult time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:40 PM
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A lot of us grew up with single mothers and we know how incapable men are at being fathers That says a lot more about your taste in men than it does about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:25 PM
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Just be diplomatic in the way you say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:24 PM
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It wouldn't be just about that, would it? It would include any way she mislead him, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:50 PM
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It's manipulation if you lie (for example promise commitment but in fact plan just a hook up) Doesn't this also work in reverse? What about when the woman lies to or misleads the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:01 PM
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Men were literaly selling their dauthers as sex slaves to older men And women were literally going around killing infants. Is this a rational place for a debate to go? Women have no word in the decision, often they saw the husband for the first time at the wedding. The husbands generally didn't have any choice in that situation anyway, and of course you are generalizing based on rich men and completely ignoring the vast majority of very poor men. Women at least usually don't actively hurt men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:59 PM
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Children don't ruin marriages. Unfit parents ruin their own marriages by choosing to have children for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:37 PM
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They already do, just to older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:08 PM
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Anyone moving to another country has to do years of studying and preparation to have much hope of doing well there. It's definitely not for everyone, but there are places in this world with a better standard of living than most big US cities and where women react to blue eyes the way that men generally react to perfect tits. If you have the background, financials, and skill set, there's plenty of reward for the risk. It's surreal to be in a place where the women don't hate men generally. If you …
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:38 PM
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That user tends to use that technique regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:18 PM
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Okayyy?? So it is disrespectful, bad behavior. Old people call young people young. Nothing about being older requires being childish and disrespectful toward other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:24 PM
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That is a very elementary description , and it doesn't even amount to that. Not even close. Nothing about someone being well educated implies that they never make a spelling error. No one who actually had any education would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:54 PM
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No, that's not actually irony. Nothing significant enough happened. Spelling errors are common and you are just trying to get yourself attention with pedantry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:47 PM
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Did you actually read the thread you jumped into? Why would the quality of life of their children be at issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:46 PM
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Calling them "babies" just means they lack life experience It's a hell of a long way from respecting other adults' choices about their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:45 PM
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Those don't sound like good family relationships. They sound controlling, manipulative, and devoid of basic boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:27 PM
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So you would hate your SO for the behavior of your childish family?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:02 PM
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Jumping in here, but that isn't actually irony...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:01 PM
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Not that many It's actually very common. and if they do it's not far off. So you also think that 25 year old women are "babies"? That's the issue, right here. We can never have a discussion about adults if you are hellbent on treating adults as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:46 PM
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And why would the quality of life of their children be at issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:41 PM
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Isn't what is appropriate something to be decided by the adults who would be having the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:52 AM
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Who suggested otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:52 AM
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So at what point does a person get to make choices about their own body and expect other adults to mind their business? EDIT Since u/AriesProductions had a meltdown and blocked me, I will respond here: Asked & answered That's the thing. You didn't actually answer. You dodged the central question. Apparently you think that people shouldn't have any decision making over their own body until they are 30. I don’t have to indulge you with a discussion where you ad hominem everything You clearly don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:13 AM
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The old man who clumsily tries to flirt with the teenaged server is a liability and a public embarrassment. That's all most will experience, but plenty of younger women are into older men if they are attractive enough. I remember when women of all ages were all into Patrick Stewart.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:43 AM
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40+ men who deliberately seek out 20something women are definitely going to be judged as creeps What if they want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:42 AM
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Your specious question is in the same vein as “age is just a number” Jumping in here, but that is a really, really weird take. At some point, we have to have control of our own bodies and the right to make decisions as adults. When do you think this will be? when it’s people under 25 when the brain hasn’t finished maturing This was a myth. https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:41 AM
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Lots of women consider 25 year old women "babies"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:40 AM
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You guys would have had a caniption when women burned their bras. Remember that women were every bit as interested in controlling women as men ever were. Women have always been the enforcers in the churches, and they still provide most of the funding and attendance today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:38 AM
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but at 25 your brain is more or less fully developed https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:34 AM
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A lot of the time, it is. That's vague. Women do most of the domestic and child raising work in relationships, even when they work full time outside the home. They probably perceive themselves to and answer as much on surveys, anyway. They will also do stupid and unnecessary shit like dressing up in slutty outfits and engaging in sex acts they hate or find uncomfortable or degrading just to try and get their lazy-assed husband interested again. This sounds suspiciously specific. You shouldn't pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:05 PM
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What he said is scientific fact. Ok, what data is he referring to, SPECIFICALLY?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:03 PM
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Honestly this is only a phenomenon we see somewhat recently. Trust me, this was going on decades ago at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:46 PM
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”Domestic skills of their predecessors“ = housewife who does all the cooking, cleaning, and childcare I don't think you understand what the word "skill" means. ”They don’t put out like they used to” Could be a reference to the near-universal dead beadroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:01 PM
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Alfred Kinsey's Sexual Behavior In The Human Female. This is from the 1950's, and I don't believe that it has been replicated. That's not adequate to make assertions of fact. they're significantly higher in your 30s than your 20s This would require legitimate data to back up as well, but even if totally true, it wouldn't justify your assertions about a woman's "sexual and youthful prime". And, since we're already discussing something as ambiguous and strange as the concept of "sexual prime" This…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:22 PM
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It's 30s. Your research is clearly the one that needs help. Jumping in here, but what specific research are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:39 PM
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That's just your reflection on a person who wants a woman with a sex drive and the ability to clean up after herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:49 PM
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gender-combativeness and antagonism This is a non-gendered way of describing a very gendered problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:45 PM
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Men say they are looking for a woman who cooks and cleans for them and who is "submissive" Right. The imaginary boogiemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:35 PM
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You need to get out of the country for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:34 PM
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All it got our grandmothers was stuck in marriages where they were expected to look the other way on cheating and tolerate abuse. That's an unhinged generalization. Sure, but this is not the norm And a dose of data pulled out of your rear. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:32 AM
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Yep, this is just another person with a bad experience extrapolating it into a bigoted generalization about men. That seems to be a common theme around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:31 AM
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Again, stop projecting your own baggage onto the scenario. Nothing about divorce is inherently dangerous to a child. If the parents are pieces of shit, and bring molesters into the house, you can't blame that on divorce. Nothing is stopping people from being good co-parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:59 AM
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Of course your bigotry is someone else's fault. It always is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:20 AM
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That's exactly what racists say when they get called out for their bigotry. "It's a joke!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:09 AM
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So, Daddy's penis is the most important factor, eh? That is such a weird, weird take. You seriously have some problems. And kids sure do pick up a lot ...sometimes from Mommy's new boyfriend, or Daddy's new girlfriend's kids who were molested by her previous paramour. Ok, that is beyond suspiciously specific. You need to stop projecting your own baggage onto this scenario. Obviously, a healthy sex life is important, and a lack of a sex life is a perfectly reasonable basis on which to end a marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:52 PM
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I'm talking about your "man math" comment. It's just classic, bigoted, feminist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:43 PM
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If they can be professional in their co-parenting, why not do it under the same roof If the bedroom is dead, so is the relationship. It doesn't help your kids to live needlessly in misery when you still have blood pumping through your veins. Besides, kids pick up on a lot and you wouldn't want them to wind up in a similar situation. Those kids will be grown before you know it. Life is too short to be tossing away decades like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:40 PM
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So some of 'em are alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:38 PM
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I think the obvious rule of decency is that if you are in a partnership, you make sure that you put in at least equal effort That's not the kind of rule you were talking about, though. You need some kind of rule about how to weight different types of work. Obviously someone working a physically demanding job or a frightening job is going to be more exhausted than someone working in a library. I had to dig a trench in 95 degree heat and 85 percent humidity, and after about 4 hours of that, I fell…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:49 PM
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The point is that the man can't clean or woo his way out of this, and you can't necessarily fix hormone issues or just give up medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:29 PM
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That’s what your question is. Not in reality. Somehow the man is infallible, the wife is at fault, and the husband is somehow free of fault. That is a totally unhinged interpretation of what I actually said. How can a husband and father be free of fault in a situation they have power over. What power? You’re not gonna try to pick up some slack and do better for your child? That also assumes that the man is necessarily doing something wrong, and that the problem is all his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:27 PM
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Probably because the reasons for lack of desire for sex are different. Even so, the advice given to men is terrible. For women it's resenting their husbands for usually a litany of reasons usually involving laziness... Again, those perceptions aren't reliable. They've identified there is a fundamental mismatch on the amount of sex each party would like in general. And there are many, many factors that can affect this. I guess what I'm saying is this subject is pretty nuanced and it kind of feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:25 PM
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You literally are placing all the blame on the mother and somehow the father is exempt of any fault. That is something that you imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:10 PM
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i am aware we as humans are not perfect. No one was suggesting otherwise. We all have periods of time when we are not at our best, we feel down, etc. I am not the type to go "uh oh, first pink flag, BREAK UP!!" Who you marry is an extremely important decision, and you can't be surprised when people don't change for the better. i don't know why you would feel the need to bring someone down from the sense of achievement they feel I'm pointing out that your story was self-contradictory. That's rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:09 PM
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Sure, there could be some cases that are an exception to the rule about counting work hours equally How did you decide what "the rule" is? In the end, perception is reality here. If perceptions are inaccurate, that just makes my point all the more. There is enough anecdotal evidence about the 'second shift' Again, that's not going to be reliable. It does seem likely to me that if there is an imbalance, it is usually the woman doing more. Based on what? If the man does more it is probably due to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:59 PM
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So you're not even going to try to do a fair amount of domestic chores like a normal partner? That isn't a rational conclusion to make from anything I said. Why would you assume that it is all the man's fault in the first place? and women often end up doing the brunt of the work Those perceptions aren't consistently reliable. I'm assuming in this scenario the hypothetical husband wasn't even helping much in the first place That assumption says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:55 PM
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I think children are far less concerned over whether Mommy is keeping Daddy's penis happy This is some truly deranged thinking to even bring this up. Obviously children should not be involved in their parents' sex life. than they are with the possibility of changing schools and losing all of their friends It's definitely not good for kids to be stuck in between a bad marriage. If the parents are professional about their co-parenting, the kids will be better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:53 PM
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Wow, another assumption that it must be all the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:52 PM
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Sounds like wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:50 PM
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This is so “doomed loner Redditor” bullshit. Did you miss the part about "the best thing for everyone is to end the relationship and move on, having learned from the last relationship." Worse can scenario, a man loses his job, falls into depression and gets addicted to WOW and wife loses all interest. Why would you assume it was the man's fault and the woman was being reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:49 PM
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Why would you assume that it's the man's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:45 PM
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Ah, the old, "It must be the man's fault". Classic feminist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:44 PM
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Are we going to pretend deadbedrooms only affect men? No, but the advice given to men is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:43 PM
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The modern man wants to resent the family. From misusing terminology to an irrational, bigoted generalization. Very impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:49 AM
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I appreciate you sharing all of this, but you are kind of exemplifying some of what I was talking about in the OP in terms of laying more responsibility on him, despite the language about it being a two way street. From my vantage point, it sounds like you ignored some serious red flags for the relationship even before you got married. As for this: regardless of how his body changed, his looks, height, hair, abhorrent snoring, disgusting little habits Don't you think he had a list of similar thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:26 AM
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That means that in whatever situation you are in, you need to be putting in equal effort in life and for the family. Period. People often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share of a team's workload than they actually are. Teamwork perception bias is a frequent topic in management classes. If you are both working 40 hours a week at work, all household chores should be divided equally overall, even if you have different domains That really depends on the type of work being done. If one pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:08 AM
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This is really basic to be asking for, but if you insist. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-007-9242-8 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1745506518762664
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:59 AM
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That's not the case in other places in Latin America. Try Buenos Aires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:54 AM
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and that’s what causes the relationship to die. I don't buy this in the first place. And are women expected to be romantic to keep the man's interest? How can a woman have energy to for sex when after work they have to do house chores and cook? People with a heavy workload often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share of it than they really are. It's called teamwork perception bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:37 AM
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I love how men take themselves out of relationships and blame everything on women. You aren't making any sense. This is a scenario where the woman resents the man. I never suggested that only the wife wanted kids, but women are very often the ones in a hurry to have kids. submissive stay at home wife Now this is just hysterical. You imagined this entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:27 AM
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Funny how you lay this all on men and not at all on women. My comment wasn't gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:25 AM
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Living with parents in a shit, dead-end relationship is also bad for the kids. Cooperative divorce and professional co-parenting is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:25 AM
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It's not good for them to be stuck between miserable, trapped parents. They are better off if both parents work together help each other move on and to co-parent professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:24 AM
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it's science Sorry, you just didn't understand how to interpret what you were reading. The authors make it abundantly clear that their conclusions are purely speculative. EDIT: u/-25T chose to take the coward's way out and blocked me, so I will respond here: Just head on over to scholar.google.com and pull up the many dozens more related to loss of desire after beginning caretaking for your spouse. You didn't understand the first one you linked, so there is no reason to think that you would be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:23 AM
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I didn’t read the book, but it doesn’t seem to claim it is based on science The user made multiple biological claims of fact and attributed them to the book. I am not the one being obtuse here. Dismissing that book simply because it “came off the shelf of Barnes and Noble” It should be dismissed as a source for biological claims. But they’re on the same level - opinions and philosophising based on anecdotes and personal experience No, the book is making claims about biology. Read the user's comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:04 AM
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There are lots of factors that a man just can't do anything to prevent, let alone turn around. That's why we shouldn't be telling them to try to clean their way out of this situation. The best thing will generally be to work on an amicable divorce, professional co-parenting, etc. so that they can both learn from their mistakes and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:54 AM
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Or it could literally be his lack of effort like I said. No one is going to clean or woo their way out of a dead bedroom. That's just not realistic. Christ do you need to rationalize everything? You don't appear to understand what that term means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:47 AM
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You aren't making any sense. People under a heavy workload often perceive themselves to be doing a greater share than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:40 AM
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Or it could be just laying blame on him for something that's out of either of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:39 AM
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He said ignoring your wife and leaving her all the work would be a you problem. Right, assuming that is what is really happening and not an issue of perception or laying blame. You replied that she should have known that’s what marriage would be like!! Because people often feel like they are doing a greater share of the work than they actually are. When you have a job that big, it can seem like you are doing 75% when you are only doing 50%, especially when you are unprepared and inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:36 AM
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The only biological claims I made were about the impact of antidepressants and natural loss of libido. Do you really need me to link that data for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:24 AM
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Yes, medical conditions like menopause will fuck with libido and sex drive. Women frequently start to lose their sex drive well before menopause. Welcome to being in a relationship with a woman. That's why we shouldn't tell men that they can clean or woo their way back to a lively bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:23 AM
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Of course you lay all the blame on the man. Plenty of women want to get married, then become pissed in life when faced with the realities of marriage and parenthood. Nothing he can do could stop that train, let alone turn it around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:22 AM
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How is her “pop science crap” any different from your anecdotal “pop science crap”? You have no idea what these terms mean. I wasn't holding myself out to be making scientific claims. If you are going to do that, link directly to the data or expect criticism. Some stupid book off the shelf at Barnes and Noble is definitely fair to call pop-science crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:20 AM
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I LOVE how you're out in the comments poo-pooing things for being "pop science crap" That user was attempting to cite research to back up specific, scientific claims of fact. I made it quite clear that I am expressing opinion. And citing some stupid book is definitely fair to call pop-science crap. If they were willing to link directly to legitimate data, or even just express opinion, I would have more respect for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:19 AM
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to prevent loss of attraction to begin with I think that isn't realistic. So many things will cause her to lose attraction that he can't do anything about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:17 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:15 AM
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You're talking about a rare side effect. Low libido is more frequent but zero libido is tremendously rare Low libido is enough to kill a bedroom, and women (generally) have a much more rapidly declining sex drive just due to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:46 PM
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In any case, the power sits in the hands of the one who cares the least. When it comes to sex, that is generally the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:44 PM
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but even so what the fuck do you want, your partner to die over a medical condition so you can get your rocks off? Not at all. My point is to just be reasonable. If her antidepressants make her basically asexual, and the popularity of those are soaring higher and higher, no amount of maintenance is going to change anything. Be honest and be professional about co-parenting, divorce, etc. and try to make life easier for each other as you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:43 PM
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If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you because you ignored her and made her do all the work, that's a you problem, bud. And if she wanted to get married and have children without knowing what that was going to be like, Bud can't do anything to change the course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:40 PM
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I defer to my book reference Again, this is pop-science crap. If you want to make an actual reference, refer directly to the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:39 PM
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That all assumes that she had realistic expectations about marriage and parenthood in the first place. In many cases, there's simply nothing that the man could do to keep it going in the face of the realities, either before or after the bedroom dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:36 PM
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If you don't maintain your marriage (or relationship) then it dies. For a lot of people, no amount of maintenance is going to stop that train. Parenthood and marriage is a very hard road, and lots of people get married and have kids knowing very little about the realities of either. Then there are also the physical issues and issues related to medications, particularly antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:34 PM
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I'm not much into pop-science crap. Please make your argument in your own words and be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:55 PM
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The majority of my devout Christian friends who actively prioritize starting a family have no issues with dating But then you are stuck with those idiots who believe in magic and pretend to drink Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:47 PM
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It was like seeing color for the first time. Even just the food will have this effect. Coming back to the US and ordering off of Uber Eats as a sad, sad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:45 PM
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the types of people who will move abroad tend to be more social, tend to be doing it for work, and probably wouldn't have issues dating at home either. This leaves out the stark difference in dating in the US as opposed to other countries. It's basically a night and day different. They don't have the hostility toward men that American women consistently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:44 PM
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I’d argue most women don’t marry men they are actually sexually attracted to to the point that will sustain a decades long marriage. All the more reason not to tell men to try to "woo" or clean their way out of this situation. When it's done, it's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:42 PM
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No one starts being attracted to a man because he starts cleaning. It's just not going to happen. The bedroom is clearly dead and there's no such thing as reviving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:59 PM
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Again, according to his account, these are pieces of shit. If you think he's lying, congratulations on being able to read minds.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:05 PM
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By the account OP gave, these are pieces of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:04 PM
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They are jerking themselves off by causing pain.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:52 PM
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Going off of his account, these are disrespectful pieces of shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:52 PM
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No, but the predominant culture among American women is trash right now. The world is full of amazing women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:14 PM
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It's a very common thing that pieces if shit do.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:12 PM
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That's not an interaction without malice. What OP described is quite malicious.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:12 PM
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I get it. You like happy talk.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:41 PM
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So they jerk themselves off by causing more pain?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:34 PM
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That's what this story is about.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:33 PM
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I don't see how encouraging him to pretend helps at all.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:33 PM
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Your family are just being supportive. Sure, in a narcissistic kind of way that involves titillating themselves by causing pain.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:20 PM
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Thanks, Dr. Freud, but the culture is absolutely brutal to short guys right now.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:20 PM
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They sure as hell don't respect him. You can't care about someone and treat them like shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:19 PM
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She is saying that. No, she is constructing a narrative where she can string him along. Her sex drive gone for him Right. because she feels resentment towards him for not pulling his weight Bullshit. There are many reasons why she would lose her sex drive for him or just altogether, but cleaning isn't one of them. There's no bringing back anyone's sex drive by cleaning. She probably just resents being married and certainly got married to the wrong person and for the wrong reasons. It’s hard to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:11 PM
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I think you are discounting the impacts of antidepressants and other psychiatric meds.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:21 AM
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He’s doing a bit more and thinking he gets tokens to the sex machine he views his wife as That's ridiculous. He is doing what she asked. I think the problem is that she doesn't want to say that her sex drive is just gone, at least for him, because she knows he will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:06 AM
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A lot of women are hesitant to admit that their antidepressants have made them asexual, so they find a reason to blame the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:04 AM
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If there is a problem in their sex life, he absolutely has a right to bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:02 AM
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Again, these are all personal musings and speculation. You shouldn't try to state those as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:12 PM
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That’s not an argument. It's a criticism of you. Because I’d have to assume that would imply that you think men and women love the exact same. That's not a rational assumption. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:44 PM
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I disagree with your making generalizations that you pulled out of your butt or read on some stupid blog and regurgitated. Just don't voice your personal musings as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:40 PM
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That's called pulling data out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:36 PM
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When in reality our love and mating strategies are very adversarial. According to speculative, pop-science bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:23 PM
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Note that she’s not out looking for a rich guy, either. Because she has money. She addresses this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:41 AM
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Are you personally asexual? That was my first thought reading this. We get a lot of women on this sub projecting their own feelings as generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:39 AM
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It's women who think they can live free and reckless when they are young with the mentality that they can just settle down and start a family in their 30s. In fairness, this is learned. I remember my feminist teachers preaching this very message.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:32 AM
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How do you think a woman has the superhuman strength to lift a car That's an urban legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:30 AM
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Men love women. The same is not true in reverse. You are describing something that is particular to our culture. Go to Latin America and you will see women who love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:21 AM
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Most men would. More data pulled from the butt...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:10 AM
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So sorry I stated an opinion you simply cannot handle. That's silly. All I am saying is that everyone holds responsibility for whom they choose, and that their choices are more a reflection of them than of an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:06 AM
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Just about all men who aren't in the top 5 percent are somewhat lazy and childish and they become more so every year they live. According to the data you just pulled out of your butt. This is just bigoted nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:05 AM
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If someone chooses to sleep with men before vetting them, then that is their choice as well. Likewise, the negative experiences that inevitably follow that behavior reflect those choices and the person making them more than they reflect the billions of men walking the earth. I guess now any woman you went on one date with who turned out to not be good is on you...so pick better too man!!! Do you see me generalizing about women over my experiences with individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:33 AM
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Yet men do that The men you chose did that. This is a huge distinction. Your personal taste in men doesn't reflect the billions of men walking the earth. It reflects what you brought to the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:24 AM
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It's pretty much why 50 percent of the failed marriages among my friends have happened and all the women who gave up men permanently were from that group. It leaves a permanent sour taste. Isn't that your own fault, though? If someone marries someone lazy and childish, don't they bear responsibility for choosing that person, failing to vet them, etc? I really can't see how it can be reliably avoided because all dudes seem to have some of the dynamic Again, this sort of thing says a lot more abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:14 AM
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That's still a generalization that isn't justified by your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:05 AM
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I was raised in an abusive household which left me with PTSD and borderline personality disorder. My point exactly. These experiences don't reflect men generally, but your personal situation, trauma, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:02 AM
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If someone smells shit everywhere they go, it's time for them to check their own shoes. We are all responsible for the partners we choose, and a woman having shit taste and poor relationship skills doesn't justify maligning men generally. EDIT: user begayallday freaked out about something I didn't actually say and blocked me, so I will post my response here: I’m sorry, but how exactly was I responsible for my own childhood abuse? This is a completely irrational interpretation of what I actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:01 AM
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That just…highlights men as the common, troubling variable Either that or their own shit taste in men, bad relationship skills, failure to wait to figure out who a person is before fucking them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:58 AM
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Some of these men when they described the past women who apparently cause them issues now, I thought to myself "why did you choose them to date?" Said without irony. Doesn't that apply to you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:58 AM
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in what part of that singular situation would she need to take accountability. Having shitty taste in men, failing to vet before having sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:57 AM
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That’s actually a reflection of our behavior as men, not on a woman’s behavior for knowing more about us … No, that's a reflection of their taste in men, not of the behavior of men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:54 AM
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if I know that i need to enforce boundaries about household chores If you are dating lazy, immature men who don't carry their weight of their own volition, that also says a lot more about you and your taste in men than it does about the billions of people walking around with a pair of testicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:53 AM
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Exactly. As I was saying before, these experiences say a lot more about you, your culture, your upbringing, etc, than they do about men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:51 AM
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Doesn't some of that responsibility fall on you for having poor taste, failing to vet your partners, etc? Your experience with your personal relationships is much more a reflection of you than of men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:50 AM
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Not all experience is the same, and greater quantity seldom equals greater quality when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:49 AM
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It takes marriage to a lazy man who stonewalls in arguments Suspiciously specific. Are you sure you aren't just projecting your own failings on others? After all, you chose the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:48 AM
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She's kind of weird looking and her style of dress screams mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:35 AM
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No, that's what the discussion already was. If you want to argue against criticism generally, it doesn't make any sense to do so here, or even in this sub. That's like saying that no one should argue about anything ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:28 AM
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I don't know why you would bring that up here. It is really irrelevant to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:15 AM
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Most debates involve some sort of criticism. Are you aware that you are in a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:03 AM
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Everyone treats anything as they please. This isn't really a response to what the user said. They are criticizing the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:18 PM
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Without Republicans, this wouldn’t have happened Without (mostly female) Catholics and other religious voters, this wouldn't have ever happened. Links in a chain. Pro-lifers are definitely not limited to Republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:20 PM
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Catholics? In this case, yes. Evangelicals were really the ones that spearheaded the whole thing. No, Catholics have been much more consistent and organized on this issue. Besides, the attendees of both branches are mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:49 PM
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No, it's objectively irrational to blame the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:32 PM
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the men in political positions drive this and sorry to tell you, that’s their fault. Again, they are voted in to serve by an electorate that is mostly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:18 PM
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Let’s say women are blaming all the wrong people… and? That's the basis of the criticism. Men never do? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/es/tu-quoque The fact is, an emotion is just that. The whole point of the criticism is that the general hostility toward men about this is irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:13 PM
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I think you replied to the wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:20 AM
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That’s not the point, is it? It's the point of what I said. Are you doing that ridiculous feminist mind reading now, where you have to imagine some ulterior motive that has nothing to do with what I actually said? But if you want to talk about that…..do you have any sources for your claims? How about the five Catholics that actually changed the law? Or was it the thing about Rachel Maddow being a Catholic that you doubt? like the new speaker of the house He's not even Catholic. What criticism he…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:36 AM
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Ok, if you want to play dumb…. Right back at you. Actually respond to what I said about Catholicism being the cause of the reduction in rights, and women's role in Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:24 AM
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If he is, then what you're describing is a form of sex tourism. No, that's silly. "Sex tourism" involves travelling to other countries to hire prostitutes.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 07:22 AM
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respond to the specific points
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:17 AM
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Try reading what I actually said and respond to the specific points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:01 AM
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I think things like the rise of right wing nationalism/abortion restrictions/etc. play a role, honestly. This is primarily thanks to Catholicism. Women are angry and some are basically popping off about it. But Catholicism in the US is mainly entertainment for older women (and Rachel Maddow). Not many men attend anymore, and donations are largely driven by the older women who attend. In some senses, as a man, I’d rather women rip us a new asshole than pretend to be happy all the time and abandon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:41 AM
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about women being too picky Nah, it's about hypocrisy. No one is complaining about attractive and cultured women being picky. It's about warped views, an inclination toward destructive relationships, and the blame toward men that always follows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:40 AM
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I would rather have none of those considerations or compliments than have the fake ones that so many women offer each other. At least when I have a friend, I know he is actually my friend and doesn't secretly want to destroy me. If he and I don't get along, we stop spending time together.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 04:06 AM
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No, men offer everything that women do. That's just silly. Young women have beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:51 PM
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It only takes one psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:24 PM
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Young men who can't get laid feel helpless and hopeless in the face of women who are in their primes, in terms of physical beauty. That's because they have to compete with everyone at a time when they have little to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:23 PM
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No one is telling you to be with anyone you don't want to. The message is not to complain when you wind up where you put yourself. If you want to do the cat lady thing, no one is trying to stop you. The problem is that the cat ladies tend to blame their misery on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:20 PM
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In years past, and in the country I live in now, that would be correct. Here I can ask almost any woman to dance, and in most cases, she will say yes. In the US, in recent history, there is a religious fervor going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:04 PM
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You won't get charged criminally for that, but you can definitely get kicked out of your university, fired from your job, banned from various properties, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:19 AM
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She weighed 140 at her peak fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:34 PM
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most men are still too emotionally stunted or focused on their own needs to provide the same level of emotional support and care women provide them continuously without getting any of it back. This is just an unhinged LARP. This says a whole lot more about your own psyche than it does anything about men. General consensus is that a good vibrator and clit sucker can give us much better orgasm than any man can You have trouble connecting with people, right? Have you considered that you might be on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:14 AM
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I don't see anyone telling anyone to have sex they don't want to have. there. If you don't like what they have to say, go ahead and criticize what they are saying. That's what men are doing when they tell you to shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with you finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:46 AM
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Men are used to it. We are raised on "shut the fuck up".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:54 AM
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If the man knows that you are settling, then it isn't deceiving him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:54 AM
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There's no excuse for deceiving yourself into a relationship. Anyone who does that is just a total piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:50 AM
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You are just being told to stop whining and shut the fuck up. Anything you perceive beyond that is just your main character syndrome. No one cares if you die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:49 AM
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The men at the lower end generally can't even get a date these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:40 AM
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MEn were attracted to most thinner, slimmer, blonde women. Women like Marilyn Monroe or Pamela Anderson were the embodiment of the most attractive women ever. Marilyn Monroe was plus sized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:38 AM
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I think that everyone owes everyone honesty. If a woman is settling for a provider, then she should be up-front about that with them and see if they really want to be part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:35 AM
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No one is telling you to have sex with anyone you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 AM
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As long as you are up-front about that with your partner, I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 AM
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This happens at every "level" you want to try to establish through some objective measure. Right. The "objective measure" you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:31 AM
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but to stop whining This is what the hypocritical women just can't accept. They have to believe that you have some plan for them, when really the plan stops at telling them to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:30 AM
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What is the solution What gives you the impression that anyone is suggesting one? It seems like every time women are criticized, they have to project some life advice into the criticism. Date someone you are not attracted to? I don't see anyone suggesting this. don't get it. That's the main character syndrome. It's not like you can force attraction. What do you think happens to the fat basement dweller who thinks he deserves a supermodel and says so? He gets criticized. Does that mean anyone wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:28 AM
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Except this study didn't actually say this, so why should we believe that any others do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:05 AM
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Trough history, men always had the upper hand in dating. You mean a very small number of wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:57 AM
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Research shows Probably more bullshit pseudoscience from the gender studies departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:56 AM
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because toxic masculinity Ah, that irrational nonsense again? It's nothing but a vague gender slur that anyone can use to mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:55 AM
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Well, it's a bit of spiritual faith, a bit of law of attraction In other words, horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:54 AM
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Why do you suppose she would go to the trouble?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:06 PM
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Things are very different in Latin America.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 03:00 PM
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Well, when men are brought to tears by that self-indulgent windbag Jordan Peterson, because he's the first time they ever heard anyone actually give a fuck about what they are going through, we shouldn't be all that surprised.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 AM
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Is it thinking with their dick if it just never occurred to them to look for support from a relationship?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:27 PM
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Heartbreaking on so many levels.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 04:17 AM
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Little butts / big butts or super skinny / thicc thighs have been styles that changed and you absolutely see more men into the current popular style. Much more so for women. Look at mens media throughout the last hundred years, and curvy figures (tits and ass) are universal, as are the presence of a variety of body types. During the 80's, when the skinny fashion was arguably at its peak, every Playboy always had women with tits and ass, even when they also had thinner women. The whole skinny con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:09 PM
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The difference you are missing is that the man's attraction is personal and direct, whereas the woman's is filtered through her community. That means that as different types of men fall in and out of vogue, or the popularity of a certain man, her attraction will fluctuate accordingly. Men don't give a fuck about what kind of woman is in style or how attractive the community thinks she is at that moment as long as they find them attractive directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:56 PM
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You're literally in a sub that posts about it multiple times a day, every day. (Has to reach back 7 years to find one post with 2 upvotes and everyone in the comments disagreeing)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:35 AM
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What am I supposed to think? Everyone who actually went to the trouble to link a comment turned out to be full of shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:35 AM
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You still aren't talking about anything that has anything to do with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:30 AM
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You're literally in a sub that posts about it multiple times a day, every day. Show me someone ins this sub arguing that women should be forced to have sex. I think this is in your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:51 AM
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I’m just saying if you want women to lower themselves to you Did you miss the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:49 AM
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I'm sure that you imagine that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:29 AM
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Still would be a man. I like the freedom to have my own opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 08:54 PM
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Kind of like a warning to smokers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:50 PM
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but a threat is a threat Even an imagined one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:09 PM
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Then we'll just chalk it up to your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:08 PM
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So the doctor is personally threatening the patient, in your mind? That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:44 PM
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They say it verbatim. Who says it? Let's see an example. I've seen you make this doctor comparison already and it's not equivalent. Of course it is. Not every warning is a threat. The doctor has multiple and repeated examples to draw that probability from. You aren't making any sense. Is the doctor threatening an action on their own behalf or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:44 PM
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Men would be fine Gotta disagree here. If you have ever been in an ER, there are lots of women doing great work. We couldn't handle them or other women professionals disappearing overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:55 PM
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When someone warns of the consequences of smoking, do you consider them to be making a personal threat to damage someone's lungs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:54 PM
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If an engineer is telling you that a building will collapse if a repair isn't made, do you consider that to be the engineer threatening to personally make the building collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:53 PM
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Yes, that’s the whole point of the issue of sexlessness This post isn't about the issue of sexlessness. This is about criticism of hypocrisy and the unhinged interpretations that follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:03 PM
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I'm sure you can find some extreme fringe weirdo trolling by saying all kinds of things. Some people say all PIV sex is rape, or that all men should be enslaved, but they are so fringe as to be irrelevant to any larger conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:57 PM
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Did they actually say that or is that just what you suspect they really mean underneath?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:56 PM
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That's your main character syndrome talking. No one is trying to save you or civilization. They are just criticizing hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:54 PM
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Lol dude, we are on Reddit right now and yes, there are definitely guys on here telling woman they should or should have to have sex with with But they don't actually say that, do they? That's what you extrapolate from what they really said. with the extreme and blatant "threat" of what the long term results of not doing it will be. So if a doctor tells a patient what the consequences will be if the patient doesn't stop smoking, do you consider that to be the doctor threatening to personally har…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:36 PM
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You just imagined some nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:54 PM
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You clearly want us (women in general) to settle You imagined this part out of your main character syndrome. The criticism is of hypocrisy. No one is trying to save you or society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:54 PM
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No, he just didn't say what you claimed he said. You literally misquoted him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:50 PM
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That's irrelevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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Because all you’re insinuating is to force women to pair up with men who women don’t want You imagined that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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You understand that they aren't threatening to collapse society, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:45 PM
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Why are you asserting that they are low quality? Why do we consider the fat guy low quality? Human beings don't have quality anyway. We're not cuts of meat. Do you tell that to every woman you hear complaining about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:37 AM
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You realize that this wasn't even what they said, right? You are imagining things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:35 AM
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Normal shaped women being shamed for not being anorexic definitely is a situation where only women are the problem, but men are shamed for being fat as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:27 AM
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I use "licentious" as a masculine alternate synonym of the feminine "promiscuous". I can't see how that makes any sense linguistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:25 AM
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Of all the stuff that’s potentially unfair, the body positivity movement being probably focused on young women is not one of them. As long as we agree that this is strictly something the activists do for other women, then that concludes the discussion of the thread you jumped into. That said, Hold on there brother there were people saying that Kate winslet in titanic was fat. Certainly other women. Men are far less critical of that level of imperfection. Male models aren’t typically told to lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:21 AM
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Guys have said in this sub many times that women should be paired up with men against our wil Paired up by who? Who actually said this, specifically? I think you imagined this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:48 AM
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“It's just a listing of possible consequences if women's standards were to go to a certain level and stay there.” Did you actually read that whole comment? They were saying that they were not going to do anything of the sort, but speculating outcomes. “I personally do not think women will become so selective that we will see existential threats to civilization. But it is a possibility.” What point are you trying to make with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:48 AM
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Its not that women are more libidinous I said they were less libidinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:46 AM
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or we'll take away your rights You imagined this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:44 AM
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*stop fucking chads, because they will be rejected by hiqh quality family father type guys for having a too high body count You are extrapolating way more than this actually says. It's main character syndrome. Someone saying that women with too many past partners won't be able to get a man to commit isn't trying to find a way for the woman to work things out for herself. It's just stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:44 AM
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My favorite thing men here say is that women contribute nothing to society. You imagined that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:40 AM
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No, it’s a problem that men want solved, or they will destroy civilization This is just silly and unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:36 AM
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Then celebrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:36 AM
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It's not even hypocritical to have standards that you don't yourself meet. It's hypocritical to complain about the quality of others from a position of very low quality. That's what the fat guy scenario illustrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:35 AM
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And people are allowed to criticize them for complaining. If you don't like it, don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:31 AM
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why even criticize who they choose to date? You are missing the point entirely. No one is criticizing who they choose to date. They are criticized for the hypocrisy. Take another look at the fat guy example. I don't believe for a second that men do this in an effort to help women. That's the main character syndrome talking. No one suggested that anyone was criticizing them in an effort to help them. Read the OP more carefully. The point is to criticize them and tell them to shut the fuck up, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:27 AM
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This is the place to debate something like that. Women complain in sheltered places where even the slightest pushback is banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:40 AM
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A man not getting sex from any number of random women is not a victim of anything. Did anyone suggest that they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:38 AM
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Translation: You tried to play smart and got dunked, so now you are going to scamper off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:36 AM
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You are right, but you responded to my response to someone who said just that, so it was fair to assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:35 AM
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They can if they want? But we agree that they don't, right? Can we at least get that much straight? I don't understand men who complain about women advocating for causes for women. You were trying to sell the idea that they were advocating for fat people generally. That's not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:28 AM
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You have this silly LARP that you like to imagine yourself in, and you attribute those thoughts to others as if they are in the same LARP (though in an opposing role), when really they are thinking something totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:26 AM
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men are terribly libidinous and licentious. Women are certainly licentious (I'm guessing you learned that term in The Church like I did), although I would agree that they are less libidinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:24 AM
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Even if we grant all of that for the sake of the discussion, those activists aren't doing the same for fat men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:23 AM
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The culture is fucked and there is no middle ground to be found. I just watched my friend who is a fit, dedicated father get completely irrationally screamed at in public by his fat, childish wife over something she misunderstood and assumed. There's no way to get through to her. It's not worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:40 AM
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Because you acted as if you were reading my mind, but you were really just projecting. This isn't difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:37 AM
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Then how are sexless men going to get sex? It's irrelevant. They are just criticizing hypocrisy. It's not supposed to solve any other problems. sex, dating and relationships are currently voluntary No one is suggesting othewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:36 AM
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Use your words...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:34 AM
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Whether they do or not is irrelevant. The criticism is of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:34 AM
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The only thing activists are encouraging people to do is stop shaming fat people To stop people from shaming fat women, and to convince us that they are beautiful. That's an important distinction because those activists are not saying that fat men are beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:33 AM
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No one is saying that they shouldn't be as picky as they like, and no one is saying that they should have sex they don't want. They are criticizing the hypocrisy of bitching about men who don't meet standards that the women themselves don't meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:25 AM
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Big problem most red pilled men have is women having too much sex... They don't have a problem with them having too much sex, they just think they aren't worth a relationship after they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:24 AM
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So why should women NOT chase after them? No one is saying they shouldn't. The point is that they should stop complaining about the quality of men when their own quality is in the shitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:22 AM
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Except women aren’t ranting all over the internet about not getting enough attention from men… They are ranting all over the internet about the quality of men, when their own quality is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:21 AM
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I know you know in your heart and soul You can't address anything I actually said, so you have to resort to mindreading something easier to criticize. It's just a stupid projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:21 AM
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Then why don't men would mind their own business? Because the women are vocally criticizing men for problems the women created for themselves. That's the point of telling them to shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:20 AM
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But apparently it doesn't work enough to prevent you from making this useless thread. If it's so useless, why are you spending time here spraying irrational piss?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:19 AM
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Please, elaborate if you actually have something to say. Teach us all about irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:18 AM
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No one would complain if they just silently didn't engage. They are getting told to shut the fuck up because their criticisms are irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:17 AM
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But if you don’t, they will be death, rape and suffering. This is just an unhinged projection. There will be a bunch of miserable cat ladies raising hell online. That's as far as it goes. You imagined the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:16 AM
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Some of these incels even claim that women should be forced into sex slavery by the government. Who exactly is saying this? Either this is in your imagination or this is some 12 year old trolling you. At most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:14 AM
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You clearly have no idea what the word 'irony' means. In both the case of the fat guy I mentioned and the complaining women, no one is telling them to have sex with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:43 PM
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Trolls say goofy things for attention on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:42 PM
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Ok, but that doesn't really address anything I said in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:34 PM
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People feel justified in saying horrific stuff to actresses People, including both men and women, feel justified in saying all kinds of horrible stuff on the internet to both male and female public figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:32 PM
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Someone threatened the actress who An anecdote about a totally unserious threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:29 PM
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See how easy that was to turn around? I already turned it around with the fat guy example. It works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:27 PM
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Kind of like telling them to shut the fuck up in the future. No one wants them to force themselves to have sex with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:27 PM
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Also goes for the men here who complain women they want to have sex with, won't have sex with them. That was the point of the fat guy example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:26 PM
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It was supposed to be an over-the-top joke. That's how comedy was at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:17 PM
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then the actresses for them get harassed over it. Bullshit. You can find an internet troll to say anything. That doesn't mean that anyone is genuinely getting harassed. How much "harassment" did Monique get for her (very powerful) performance in Precious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:15 PM
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these women are your looksmatch. Read it and weep. So if every man on the planet became morbidly obese, they would be the looksmatch of the most beautiful women on the planet? I don't think this system actually makes any sense the way you are using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:38 PM
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It's definitely fallen out of popularity in the US as far as actual tanning beds go, but I couldn't tell you about sunless tanning lotion. https://www.aad.org/media/stats-indoor-tanning#:~:text=Though%20the%20numbers%20have%20been,still%20engage%20in%20indoor%20tanning.&text=Among%20high%20school%20students%20in,but%20has%20not%20stopped%20entirely.&text=In%202019%2C%208.4%25%20of%20white,school%20students%20have%20tanned%20indoors.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 02:53 PM
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And tanning is growing in the West. Source on that?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 05:25 AM
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What’s silly? Your reply is ridiculous. I don't want women to have wariness? That's just a stupid take on what I actually said. You have inconsistent and bigoted views. That's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:53 PM
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A lot of those would be seen as places where it would be inappropriate to ask someone out today, at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:44 PM
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That's silly. I'm just curious how consistent your views are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:42 PM
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Girls and women have too many negative experiences with males to pretend to care that a Reddit man is upset she’s mindful and vigilant lol. Would you accept the same rationalization from someone who said the same about their negative experiences with black people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:23 PM
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It's an imagined victimization of women, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:51 PM
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You didn't really answer the question though. If someone expressed that they categorically would not have personal relationships with black people, would you consider that to be bigotry or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:46 PM
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I’m a radical feminist As I said, the same old, controlling church lady bullshit with a new label on the can. and just like back during slavery if a slave said “I love serving my massa” is not a real choice. And you would compare women to slaves? You certainly don't have much respect for women as adults. Women choosing to exploit themselves to their oppressors This is also completely unhinged. I see women as adults and they are certainly equal under the law. Hell, women have had the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:55 AM
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I don’t believe in choice feminism you are so correct! So you want to make choices for others? How do you feel about them making choices for you? Women are now selling their pussy for 3.99 a month Images of their pussy, anyway. to degenerate men Wait, aren't the women involved in that degenrates as well, by your rationale? who don’t see women as people This is just unhinged. There's no rational way to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:46 AM
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Are you seriously going to force me to get up sources right now. What sources? Both are consuming media for sexual titillation. Yes, women prefer to consume porn in the form of stories. I don’t consume pornography No, you seem to get off on rage, which is fine. Everyone has a crank, but you shouldn't be surprised when you are criticized for being a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:43 AM
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and as a woman I’d like to reach out to women to make better choices. Sounds like you don't respect their choices about their own lives and bodies. but women are the ones getting the worst outcome. How so? I want women to be sexually selective and sexually intelligent in order to make the right choices The right choices as you see them. This is exactly the thinking behind the controlling church ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:40 AM
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Right. Bad for thee but not for me. Text-based porn is still porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:39 AM
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not degenerates (not porn watchers) Is every woman who reads a romance novel a 'degenerate' in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:35 AM
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because it’s clear men don’t want to put in any effort into collectively becoming any better. Like women collectively do? This is a strange thing to ask when it's not like we are separate nations or something. Society caters to their degeneracy I would argue that this is much, much more true of women. Just look at sentencing disparities. so we as women need to offer each other productive advice to keep each other safe/free from wasting our time. Sounds like more of the same controlling old churc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:35 AM
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As if there was any coherent thinking behind the term. Patriarchy="Men Bad" unless you are talking about a country where women actually aren't allowed to vote, work or own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:50 AM
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This sounds like an alien talking about men. It's completely superficial and clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:49 AM
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It’s his close friend but he doesn’t even know if he’s sad? Women do wellness checks on each other, so idk. It’s very foreign to me how men interact. You might just not be able to interpret how men communicate. We definitely talk about feelings and emotions, just not as painfully explicitly as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:42 AM
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A list celebrities as average There are a lot of average looking a-list celebrities, at least to men. The skinny thing doesn't turn our cranks the way it does for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:11 AM
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More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight. But what are the ages? Yes, old guys get fat in great numbers. OP appears to be talking about men who are in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:08 AM
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I am well educated That can mean so many things. You may have a worthwhile degree. So many well educated people don't. Plenty of degrees are pure, activist LARPing.
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 11:56 PM
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It's not so much about "viewing their content", but about living in the same country with them. By your rationale, all of the people bitching about Trump could have just stopped 'viewing his content'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 01:00 AM
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Black men commit more crime statistically. This has nothing to do with the conversation at hand, but I'll bite. They certainly are charged with more crimes and more heavily policed. Given the amount of white collar crime that happens constantly, only an idiot would say that black folks actually commit more crimes generally. There's no effective way to measure that. I am someone who likes to look at the why. Why for what, specifically? What statistical phenomenon are you asking why about? That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:26 PM
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You guys still spend a lot of mental energy on them. Look who's talking. Talking about how they have baggage, trauma, etc. Which is very, very relevant in the context of a relationship. The way you talk about them it's like, ah, so they wouldn't be fun to fuck either. That's just your projection. No one is saying that they wouldn't be good enough for bathroom-stall sex if they were attractive enough. The conflict always comes in the serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:23 PM
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You haven’t read the comments made here by the men who wish they were getting sex from those women, or any woman? Everyone wishes that they were having all kinds of sex with beautiful people, but I don't see anyone encouraging women to have sex they don't want to have. That is just the imaginary boogieman that is popularly used to justify irrational vitriol. Promiscuous women are shamed and hated regularly. By women generally, not by men outside of some fringe religious types. Red pill trad men …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:20 PM
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These two sentences have changed my stance This is a debate. I have no interest in trying to change your stance when you didn't get there rationally in the first place. You're acting like women have any power in traditional especially Abrahamic religious societies. Women have had the majority of voting power in this country for generations, and they drive church attendance and donations. Just look at any Catholic church these days. It's a sea of old women with a few husbands in tow and a family …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:20 PM
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Just the fact that you tried to justify your claims with those studies shows that you have absolutely no idea how to read research. Start here: https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/intro-to-biology/science-of-biology/a/the-science-of-biology
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:23 PM
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I don't think that it is this intended or specific. A new generation of church ladies is getting high on trying to control anything and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:09 PM
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Oh, you have anecdotal evidence lol. It's actually more relevant than the hair-brained generalization you made based on research that you clearly didn't understand in the slightest. Try some basic stat classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:06 PM
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No, mostly the bitching and moaning that many women do based on a warped sense of their own value, along with their entitlement to the labor and effort of men generally. The goal is to criticize them and hopefully get them to shut up, not to get them to have sex with anyone they aren't interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:04 PM
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Not really. They tend to complain about hypocrisy, dishonesty, and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:01 PM
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Can you provide your source for this statement? I used to work manage strip clubs and before that I worked security at clubs and chauffeured for call girls. Anyone in or near the industry knows about all of the well-educated and intelligent women that pervade it. Your research focused on impoverished women and didn't look at the industry as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:54 PM
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definetly some men who think that promiscuity itself is abhorrent and make a woman worthless and an acceptable target for hate and violence. You are talking about a far-fringe boogieman here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:49 PM
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but I assure you, many men Maybe a few religious nuts. even other women do. Oh, definitely. Was this even in question? Like the go-to way to trash talk other women is the say that they are promiscuous. This starts in middle school and continues to the grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:48 PM
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how undesirable high n count women are For relationships, not for sex. That's an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:44 PM
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not based off of economic hardships. That happens too, but most of the women doing sex work in the US do have opportunities for jobs, just none that afford the lifestyle that sex work does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:41 PM
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What they don't get is access to that woman's body. That's not what anyone is complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:39 PM
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for even caring about a woman's sexual history. Caring about sexual history is not demonizing their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:38 PM
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These women are hated by men they are not fucking which is most of them. This just sounds like a fantasy. It isn't true at all. They are also hated by people with traditional world views. But that's mostly other women. It was always the church ladies that got off on shaming and controlling younger women. but the fact remains women who explore and enjoy their sexuality are demonized constantly. That's never what is actually being criticized. It's the hypocrisy and dishonestly involved with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:37 PM
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If a man is hitting a woman and you intervene, you will more likely wind up getting attacked by both the man and the woman. That's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:56 PM
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What was the advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:40 AM
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Women are under a lot of pressure to "support women", so they aren't really free to speak honestly as they would with other women. It's like how Muslims will speak critically of their own culture, but only among other Muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:39 AM
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my truth "my truth" = "my preferred fiction"
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:36 AM
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You can go to one licensed therapists who tells you that your problems are a result of the patriarchy, and then to another licensed therapist who tells you to turn to Jesus to heal you. It's a total crapshoot.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 11:49 PM
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Except that there are objective bases and standards for those jobs. With therapy, it's basically a total free-for-all.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 11:47 PM
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Basically anyone can be a therapist. It's a total crapshoot. You can wind up with political ideologues, religious nuts, psychopaths, and who knows who else. You might get lucky and find someone half reasonable.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 06:44 PM
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You are missing the nuance. You actually had underlying issues that a therapist could help with. Many men just feel like shit because our culture treats them like shit.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 05:49 PM
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Therapy is a place to vent and cope with your situation, even if it cannot be changed. Assuming that the therapist isn't gaslighting them.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 05:48 PM
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Just get a massage with a hand job and see how you feel about it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 05:52 PM
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This is precisely why I’ll never understand why guys want women to lower their standards. We don't. We just criticize women who complain when they can't get a man who is way out of their league. They can stay single for ever. We just want them to STFU about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:22 PM
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That's all really her own fault if she deceives someone into marrying her because she wanted to please her family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:20 PM
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most men arent good husbands Another statistic pulled from the ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:17 PM
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Because if she has to literally force herself to ignore the fact that she’s subconsciously and emotionally and hormonally and mentally not aroused or attracted to you, it’s a constant effort. Which is why she would lie about this at the beginning of the relationship. No how hard up guys are, no one could get commitment from them if this is all they were offering. They are simply not truly attracted to you but a lot of people here seem to think a woman could just lower down a dial and boom No, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:17 PM
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I mean who in recent generations is saying anything like this? Obviously the church was all about duty sex for both husband and wife, but that's been exclusive to religious nuts for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:49 PM
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That 86% would need to represent a more substantial portion of women as a whole. Statistics is hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:43 PM
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Surely if women suck that number would be a lot lower. No, that's silly. You would have to have information about the relative number of married lesbians to the general population before making an assertion like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:34 PM
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They say it as a warning. A warning to not say no, or not be too “combative”. No, it would be a warning to find a partner who is actually compatible. Why are people always imagining that women are being told to have sex they don't want? No one is telling them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:32 PM
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They would need to make that clear before the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:31 PM
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Some women see their personal life in two very distinct worlds. One is the public, "official" world that she shows to her family and that goes on the record. The other is the private, "experimenting" world which doesn't go on the record and is known only to herself and her like-minded friend group.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:35 AM
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Bruh -- are you seriously asking how media impacts societal norms and conventions? You seem to be assuming that reality actually reflects this, and it really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:27 PM
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Not unlike the situation with many passport bros. That would make sense except that so many women who live comfortably in foreign countries are interested in having even casual relationships with Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:20 PM
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"The patriarchy in your uterus is making you sick" That really is hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:01 PM
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Are men sitting around waiting for us to say it? It's more like a criticism of doing one thing and saying another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:59 PM
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A lot of guys turn thirty and suddenly get persistent attention from 30+ women who are desperate to get married to someone with a degree and a job. It's all about getting those boxes checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:55 PM
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I'm not sure I buy that at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:51 PM
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Tates a dork? Him and his brother are both literal jacked Chad multimillionaires. They are like caricatures of what a 13 year old dork would imagine he wants to be.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 06:37 PM
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I've been recommending guys that are struggling go overseas That's really a pretty tall order for someone who isn't already wealthy or experienced in the country.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 06:29 PM
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they are referring to men’s bad behavior and the recent trend towards mid century misogyny thanks to a male submission That would make sense if they weren't so attracted to badly behaved, misogynist men. The actual complaints tend to be about men not being rich or good looking enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:21 PM
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As soon as women have freedom, an office job, their own money, and birth control, they seem to just not marry nor have kids. You are forgetting about the millions of women who still marry men they aren't attracted to and then just have a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:19 PM
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Then why do so many women marry men that they aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:18 PM
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especially if women are outperforming men. How, though? A lot of those degrees turned out to be silly and worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:16 PM
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There are many women who feel that due to women's nature, once committed, it is much easier to take advantage of a woman than a man...But many women feel that a woman gives more in a relationship... Does it matter at all that these feelings are irrational? Whatever a woman's standards are, they are. Simple as that. That makes sense until she marries a man to whom she isn't very attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:15 PM
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the average guy hardly could improve her life in the most basic or superficial ways since it takes nowadays two salaries to pay the rent. Then why does women marry one so often?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:12 PM
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Men are 3x more likely to leave a seriously ill partner than vice versa. According to debunked bullshit that you didn't bother to look into before regurgitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:04 PM
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She's a podcast comedian with decent delivery. Anyone looking to her for more than that is just being dumb.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 09:56 PM
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Ok, now it's clear you just don't know what main character syndrome means. You can't understand how little people care about you. The only detractors of my "non-pilled" common sense take is coming from "cel" types who think they're too short or ugly to ever find love. The whole conversation started with you thinking that men were telling women to select differently. That wasn't what was happening. They don't care how you do or don't select men. They are just criticizing a prevalent attitude or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:40 AM
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Next step is to learn when they're applicable. You are certain that these men are so concerned with how the women they are criticizing are supposed to find love. They aren't. Most men here are not debating. That's exactly what is going on here. They are stomping their feet and whining. Sounds more like you... so why would they find an entitled whiny man attractive? Right back to the main character syndrome. They are criticizing people for what they say. They aren't trying to be attractive to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:10 AM
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Oh, so the men have decided that the solution is to come to online echo chambers and just bitch incessantly about the problem is going to be helpful. That's your main character syndrome talking. They are criticizing something that others are saying. They aren't trying to figure out how they are supposed to find love. So if men can't change women (we know, they can't) then what they hell are they doing here? Debating. It's right in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:56 PM
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We can't control that, and it's not determined by what are "controllable factors." If that was the case, then men shouldn't be attracted to youth. The belief that attraction to youth is a character defect is not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:49 PM
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For anyone who isn't a total piece of shit, the thing to do is end the relationship if you aren't satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:46 PM
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How women are selecting men is really not men's business though. No one is telling women to select men differently. Criticism is made of popular sentiments, and the proposed solution is just assumed by the recipients of the criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:44 PM
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I have got issues with men that hate woman purely because they can’t control them Sounds like another imaginary boogieman.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/23 03:37 AM
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This is the main character syndrome again. No one is telling women to lower their standards. They are criticizing women with irrationally high standards. The goal is to criticize what they are saying, not to get them to do anything. No one gives a shit if those women stay single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:56 AM
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it isn't something done just by women comedians, but most mainstream women comedians today focus pretty exclusively on it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 07:41 AM
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Whether or not the material is enjoyable is definitely a matter of perspective, but a lot of comedy material from women comedians isn't intended to be funny so much as validating. It's called "clapter", and it isn't something done just by women comedians, but most mainstream women comedians today focus pretty exclusively on it. https://www.vulture.com/2018/01/the-rise-of-clapter-comedy.html
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 07:34 AM
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I don't know. Probably at least 90%. Did you just pull that number out of your butt? This all sounds like a LARP.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 09:41 PM
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So now we are just talking about some men? How many?
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 08:54 PM
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before they stop seeking vengeance. Against who? All of the Don Drapers are dead, and the women of the day would have cut each others throats to get picked by one of them.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/23 05:28 PM
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A large amount of men's courtship behaviour seems to be about hiding their real nature, interests and plan in life to trick some woman into a situation where settling for them is the path of least resistance. Right. The nefarious boogieman with unfalsifiable ill intent. It makes for a great constant straw-man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:53 PM
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You understand that the sex doesn't actually cause that, right?
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 05:24 PM
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That's the thing. It usually isn't isolated to one person. People with that much baggage start hating men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:24 AM
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And toward men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:58 PM
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not every young woman lives like that either Some overweight ones do...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:33 PM
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That's what you are suggesting. The man's first two may come in his teenage years, and there wouldn't be much of a disincentive if the state pays for the first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:23 PM
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I don't want to pay for the generous subsidies on the first two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:21 PM
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It's this whole character you seem to have in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:08 AM
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More like the women's mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:58 PM
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Different strokes for different folks. Just be honest about what you do and don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:57 PM
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vast majority of men, once they fall in love ,they are quite loyal It works the same way with beer and cigarette brands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:55 PM
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or spend their youth having kids and being a homemaker only to get traded in for an 18-year old after all is said and done? Aren't most divorces initiated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:51 PM
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There’s only a small percentage who do and this small percentage have this preference due to trauma According to the scientific research you just pulled out of your ass. The LARPing going on in this post is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:51 PM
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They are banking on that, so you can't leave them. Again with the boogieman and his nefarious motives. This has become a complete LARP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:49 PM
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Ah yes, the nefarious boogieman you like to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:47 PM
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You pulled a generalization out of your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:16 AM
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So a generalization based on mind reading, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:21 PM
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This is more commonly seen by men and women who are in a 50/50 relationship and living together yet the man just feels like... Sounds like a generalization based on a past negative experience...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:25 PM
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Used to push me around, find flaws in me and bully me Your dad was a bitch inside.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 05:20 PM
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But the reality is a lot of women who are attractive now will still be hot at 40 or 50 Uhh. Maybe 40 to some degree.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 05:42 PM
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I mostly hear about women who date men they don't yet know are assholes That generally comes as a result of ignoring giant red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:56 PM
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I hope gen z women are into shriveled nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:34 PM
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Most of that is fooling themselves and competing with other women.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 07:11 PM
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And women don't blame men for their dating issues? Please. What "mindset" leads them to do that?
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 07:10 PM
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You have flatly said you reject any science that disagrees with you lmao. No, that was just more of your unhinged imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:24 PM
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Thankfully, the first part of your sentence invalidates any opinion you might hold on its significance. Ordinary people can see that this tabloid bullshit is not legitimate science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:15 PM
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Anytime your ilk Yep, hysterical nonsense. Just don't try to pretend you have any science backing this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:14 PM
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Doesn't sound like an excuse to revel in pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:18 PM
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If you knew anything about data, you wouldn't take this bullshit survey research seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:08 PM
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You have no idea what counted as work and "leisure", do you? This crappy survey research isn't close to rigorous enough to make generalizations anyway. It's just tabloid, rage-bait bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:06 PM
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Then why do female breadwinners still do more housework than their spouses? Don't get worked up over those horseshit studies. It's just like most crappy survey research that doesn't actually give any real information. They are tailor made to be rage-bait in blogs and tabloids for women. They generally rely on perceptions and often don't count maintenance, yard work, etc. as work. I believe this one counted home and automotive maintenance as "leisure activities". They also make no allowance for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:15 PM
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In most failed marriages I know , women did at least 70% of the everyday household chores and the parenting According to the perception of the woman, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:10 PM
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Who doesn't?
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:46 PM
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Therapy has gone to a strictly bio-chemical model. Rather that accepting and trying to understand emotions, we view them as chemical defects in the brain which can't be addressed without pharmaceutical intervention. That is a perfect description of 90's-00's era psychiatry/psychology/therapy. Fortunately, more recently minted mental health professionals have a much heavier focus on evolutionary biology, childhood trauma, and other more scientifically legitimate approaches to therapy and mental h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:39 PM
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A lot of the narcissism subs involve a lot of hate towards men.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 10:14 AM
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What's your diet like?
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 01:01 AM
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Most passport bros are feminized men More hard data pulled right out of your ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:57 AM
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Most of these men just want to have sex According to the data you just pulled out of your ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:57 AM
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Sounds like there is some confusion with the terms Passport Bro and Sex Tourist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:55 AM
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Right up until you wear shorts on a date...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:54 AM
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I'll just take the word of the socially awkward zoomer...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:06 PM
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It's hard to discuss anything when someone is using a term incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:06 PM
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That's what you are describing. "Cockblocking" is about a third person preventing two willing people from having sex. If the first and second person didn't already want to have sex, it's not a situation that involves cockblocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:40 PM
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Cockblocking isn't about a hero stopping a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:37 PM
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That wouldn't be cock-blocking. It's not cockblocking unless the parties were interested in having sex until they got blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:23 PM
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If a girl wants you, she will tell the cockblock up to go away. Unless the cockblock is overbearing and unwilling to take a hint. That's why it is always the unattractive one doing the cockblocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:48 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 08:50 PM
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If she won't/didn't report it to the police, then it didn't happen. This is just stupid.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 07:06 PM
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The idea that everyone over 30 is financially established at all, let alone relatively equally, is just asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:55 PM
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However once everyone gets passed about 30 it’s stops mattering as much because everyone by then mostly has a career and hopefully their shit together. That's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:52 PM
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This is a classic example of science pulled straight from the ass.
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 06:40 PM
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Mos def.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:40 PM
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Arousal is more of a physical response. Attraction is physical and mental. I think you are just pulling this out of your rear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:52 PM
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It was overstated.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 06:41 PM
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As opposed to burlesque group Beyonce?
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 05:06 PM
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Men tend to use physical violence while women tend to use social violence. Lots of women use physical violence.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 05:04 PM
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Marriage 1.0 worked for all of history….. By that rationale, so did slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:06 PM
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How the hell are people supposed to have their special day?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:06 PM
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"The ick" happens when a woman's perception of a man doesn't match who he ends up being. Which usually involves her childish inclination to make a father out of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:19 PM
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My point is that everyone always accuses the other side of being immature and unwilling to debate in good faith. There's no way to know from the story who was actually reasonable.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:09 AM
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Sounds like exactly what your type expects My "type" being a hysterical boogieman that you imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:28 PM
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Seems to always be the man being told to "court" his way out of a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:28 PM
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I managed a strip club for a decade. Lots of women view their sex life as a tool to extract things from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:27 PM
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And they probably say the exact same thing about you.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:18 AM
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You are describing a scenario where they didn't even have the basics down. Good ol' wedding fever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:12 AM
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So you stumbled onto some femcels. I wouldn't read too much into it. They can say whatever they want because no one really thinks of them as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:09 AM
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Yeah duh? Then we can stop telling men that they need to "woo" their wives. If they got married for shit reasons, it's never going to be fixed. and keeps hurting your feelings Sounds like everything else wasn't that great. Again, if someone gets married out of wedding fever, the whole situation was already fucked before anyone walked down the isle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:08 AM
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Something to check off the list that is a social desire. Sounds like a terrible reason to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:37 AM
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Sounds like some cliche you imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:36 AM
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They were excited by someone new and exciting... Sounds like a terrible fucking reason to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:30 AM
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Sounds like it's all men's fault. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:28 AM
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So why do it so much? It's usually the woman pushing for the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:27 AM
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Women rarely fuck men they aren’t emotionally invested in to some degree That's naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:26 AM
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So women are making pragmatic, long term choices based on compromises and delay/refrain gratification and they're getting shit on for it? As long as their partner knows that they are settling, I don't see a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:24 AM
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If you married a turdblossom, you married a turdblossom. It ain't gonna change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:23 AM
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Maybe pay some attention to who you are marrying...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:21 AM
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They do nothing to appreciate the woman. Stop dating her, stop courting her Does she have to do all that for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:21 AM
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Welcome to sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:23 PM
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That would be an important point to the story. Which replies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:12 PM
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This chick made it clear that she was getting some on the side with randoms/fWbs. Did she?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:55 PM
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Which don't, lol?!?!
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 05:59 PM
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Spend some time at Miami Beach. You would be shocked how many women are down for the wrinkly D.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 05:54 PM
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I don't think there is any point of asking him to stop. But if you did, you would be a control freak by your rationale, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:53 PM
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Is it really all that unreasonable to expect that someone stops posting thong-shots when they are getting ready to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:52 PM
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and his physical age has more creeper leverage than his mental age According to the scale you just pulled out of your butt... old hit on a 14 year old See, right here. You see yourself as a child. Obviously, this is a scenario involving two adults, but you are using a child to represent yourself in the story. This is really what is going on beneath.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 04:48 PM
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then I'd have to consider myself mentally a child Wouldn't be the first time. Women on this sub talk about how adult women in their 20s are still children, frequently talking about themselves. Men don't see themselves or other men that way. There's no reward to thinking of ourselves as helpless. In my honest opinion it's the old man that's mentally still a child Then he would be the victim. The whole idea is the predator creeping on the prey. That only makes sense when the man is an adult and th…
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 04:41 PM
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Because he's a creeper otherwise Only because you view adult women as still being mental children.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 04:31 PM
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their lack of self awareness alone would probably creep most women out You would be shocked how many younger adult women are into the whole daddy vibe. It probably has something to do with all of those absentee fathers.
/r/AllPillDebate11/07/23 04:30 PM
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Again, its safe to say that every man watches some amount of porn or erotica. By your rationale, that makes every woman who ever asked/demanded that a man stop watching porn a control freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:22 PM
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Absolutely. He knew in the beginning if her lifestyle was going to cause him anxiousness and discomfort. From what I read of the texts, it seemed like they were starting to discuss marriage. I don't think its that weird to expect people to change their lifestyle from when they are dating to when they are getting serious about marriage. If both partners don't want the change, then a breakup is really the only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:16 PM
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It's safe to assume that every man watches some amount of porn. Does that make every woman who ever asked/demanded that a man stop watching porn a control freak?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:14 PM
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So basically out of your rear...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:21 AM
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Men who go for younger women while being established are rarely looking for an equal or peer. According to the research you just pulled out of your rear...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:32 AM
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What is even considered a "leer" in the first place is going to be heavily dependent on the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:44 AM
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Trying to argue that France has no identifiable culture or customs is not the most ridiculous thing that has ever been argued on Reddit, It would be more ridiculous to suggest that France is a cultural monolith where everyone believes the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:53 PM
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The laws and mores of the country. We don't have laws that clearly define what constitutes a stare as opposed to a look, and there is no cultural monolith to define this. Different people from different backgrounds are going to have different takes on what is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:35 PM
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Sure there are cultural variations, but staring and leering are considered incredibly rude in most of them That would make sense if everyone could agree as to what constitutes staring or leering. Who said anything about victims? Someone being starred at or leered at is being mistreated, no? Isn't that the whole point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:34 PM
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What constitutes staring is going to be culturally dependent. What happens when someone decided you harassed them for glancing their direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:31 PM
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I would wager to say that it’s pretty widespread knowledge to have manners Manners according to who? What happens if someone thinks you looked their direction too long?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:30 PM
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A major metro area, with lots of different cultures constantly mingling in public spaces, just like any other major metro area in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:57 PM
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The culture of the land... Who gets to decide what that is when the land has many cultures intermingling?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:59 PM
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That doesn't make any sense as a response to what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:30 PM
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..the culture that you are physically present in is whose rules prevail. So you are under the impression that there is only one prevailing culture? Who gets to decide what that is in a multicultural place? Does that apply to all aspects of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:30 PM
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You understand that western nations involve people of lots of different cultures intermingling in public places, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:20 PM
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Just what even constitutes "leering" is going to be very culturally dependent, even within various nationalities, backgrounds, religions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:20 PM
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You understand that western nations involve people of lots of different cultures intermingling in public places, right? So, again, whose rules prevail?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:18 PM
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It’s crazy how they’ll always find a loophole no matter what to excuse bad behavior. That's just projection. You understand that western nations involve people of lots of different cultures intermingling in public places, right? Hey maybe you should not act like an animal in public and control yourself a little bit So if another culture's norms conflict with yours, that makes them animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:50 PM
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Whose rules? What happens when someone of one culture looks for an appropriate amount of time in their culture, but this is an unacceptable amount of time in the culture of the person being looked at? Whose rules prevail?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:49 PM
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the social standards of your area. They differ, often drastically, depending on the backgrounds and culture of the people intermingling in any given place. What happens when behavior is acceptable in one culture, unacceptable in another, and taking place in the same location?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:29 PM
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What happens when people from different cultures and backgrounds intermingle in public places? Who decides what is appropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:18 PM
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There's a difference between noticing someone is attractive and leering at them. Anyone with social IQ knows the difference and can exercise it, regardless of what their 'biology' tells them. Sounds like an "eye of the beholder" kind thing where different people and different cultures are going to have very different ideas about what exactly is and isn't appropriate. Just out of curiosity, if I were to wear a codpiece and people started looking/commenting, am I a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:04 PM
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Most non-Christians have shitty lives, At least we don't spend our time pretending to swallow Jesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:08 PM
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I'm willing to bet that my dick is substantially larger than yours is. That said, anyone who admits to watching JBP should be humble about it. That includes both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:02 PM
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putting aside his Biblican and Jungian nonsense. LOL! How exactly do you do that? He hardly even lets his guests speak anymore. He keeps interrupting to talk about the bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:45 PM
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You are just as hysterical as any feminist ever was.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:51 PM
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Spoken like a true, deep-south incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:34 PM
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women: good relationship > single > bad relationship How do you explain all of the women who go from one dumpster-fire relationship to another?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:21 PM
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Quoting the imaginary boogie man...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:49 AM
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Men just don't think that people care enough to change their behavior for them. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:00 AM
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A lot of passport bros are showboating to try and change local womens behavior by threatening to leave This is such a feminine way of looking at the situation and nothing like what men are actually thinking. Men don't have any illusions about people giving a shit about their pain, let alone changing their behavior over it. Looking abroad is just an option to be considered for their own benefit. Thinking it is about what American women are supposed to be doing is just main character syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:53 PM
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Totally not worth it. Society can get a better deal elsewhere. Maybe the government can just issue cats and boxes of wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:02 PM
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There's no way your kid would be worth that much to society unless we were sure it was going to be some kind of genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:59 PM
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You would have to have some familiarity with the cultures, but the short answer is that there is much less political hostility between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:46 PM
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Yep. I see an unhinged rant at an imaginary caricature of an unwelcome foreigner. Good luck with the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:15 AM
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So we should hold fathers accountable when they normalize abuse in households I don't know why you would single out fathers. Mothers are pieces of shit when they normalize abuse as well. More likely to be aggressive instead of descalating situations. More likely to place themselves in high risk situations overall. Etc. Sounds vague. Where did you get that idea? So provide them with kindness, understanding, financial assistance through government service, therapy, To an extent, yes, just like we …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:13 AM
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You were just going on about how unwelcome foreigners are...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:10 AM
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That's silly and steeped in your own biases about people in other countries. Many other places just have a much better culture for dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:10 AM
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The real difference here is class and the reason for looking overseas in the first place. Or a different culture toward dating. so the same lack of desirability will apply to a high achieving woman from another country Except that even high achieving women overseas are eager to date American men even casually. The only women left are those who are poor and are subject to the issues I mentioned above. I'm guessing you have never been to any of these countries, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:09 AM
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You are just ranting aimlessly. The point is that older women do not respect younger adult women as adults. No matter how many dangers the world has, you either respect someone to handle them as an adult or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:07 AM
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I don’t believe that men can’t tell if a woman is tolerant vs enthusiastic. Obviously if she was making it clear that the bedroom would be dead after the first baby, he would not proceed. The only reason they even have a kid is that she lies until he can't get out. Honesty is always the best policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:51 PM
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Do you, again, think anyone seeks out to be a victim for literal physical violence? Absolutely. Codependence can be one hell of an addiction, and it is typical for this kind of addict to go from one walking red flag to the next. Usually it has something to do with reliving trauma they experienced at the hands of shitty parents. men are more likely to be hurt and the victim of violence because they tend to literally intentionally put themselves in those positions. What positions did you have in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:44 PM
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Spoken like a true Klansman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:41 PM
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Point being that the writing is on the wall and it would be intelligent to look toward a better quality of life elsewhere. You could send your kid to school in any number of developing nations and get a better education than you would in public schools here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:09 PM
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What did Trump do to establish a system of mass incarceration?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:08 PM
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So we should also blame men when they're victims of other men then too. When they seek out men with red flags for personal relationships, absolutely. Like, abusive behaviour isn't always visible. Lots of women seek out the behavior. It's called relationship addiction or codependence. We should treat those addicts with support, but we should also recognize their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:06 PM
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And stereotyping the women from other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:05 PM
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I was an adult at 18, but you do you. As long as we are clear that women tend to see younger adult women as children, that will make sense of many of the political views we see. Men tend to see younger adult men as other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:04 PM
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He’s trading mediocre attraction for a wife who loves him and their kids. Again, as long as she is up-front about using him, she isn't a total piece of shit. If she leads him to believe that she is actually into him, then she is a total piece of shit as an SO and as a mother. They both know what they are getting. Not the way you presented the scenario. In that case, she is just having sex with him to get him past the point of no return, then going dead bedroom. As long as she is completely clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:03 PM
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You are just stacking stereotypes, both about the American men and the women from other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:59 PM
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So why would you assume that people going to other countries aren't looking for ethical relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:58 PM
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From the entire post where OP blamed women for being victims of abusive men. OP was making the point that lots of women do tend to choose walking red flags despite having plenty of options. With adults, we should at least consider how their behavior is contributing the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:57 PM
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Is Biden really any better for people of color? Are you aware of the role that Biden's crime bill played in the problem of mass incarceration?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:51 PM
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So another stereotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:49 PM
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Seek ethical, equal connection with your fellow humans or else go fuck yourselves. It says a lot about your view of foreigners that you think this isn't possible in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:48 PM
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Sounds like another hysterical boogieman serving as the object of another irrational screed. This is the kind of behavior men are trying to avoid by looking in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:48 PM
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My issue is that they’re going to the poorest countries and that those women will end up in insanely unbalanced relationships and not be able to get up because of their citizenship. That assumes that they are only dating poor women from these countries. The women from other countries who want to date American men include all manner of professionals like lawyers, accountants, doctors, etc., who live comfortable lives and have good educations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:47 PM
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Do you have a problem with foreign women living here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:32 PM
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Women have had the majority of voting power for generations. Put the blame where it belongs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:30 PM
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And which country is better? Those same countries twenty years ago...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:29 PM
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She knows that she won't be sexually attracted to him, but wants to get his labor out of him. If she was up-front about not really being into him, then it would be on him if he proceeded. Otherwise, she is just a liar using someone in a horrible way. I feel bad for her husband, but especially for the kid. Lying and using are bad behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:15 PM
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In fairness, the culture doesn't seem interested in much beyond lip service.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:13 PM
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Because she loves him and believes he will make a good husband and father and probably hopes he won't want sex too often. That's still a horrible deception on her part. She should be honest and see if the man actually wants to be used like that before getting them both into a situation they can't get out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:57 PM
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Men like OP will be constantly throwing their partner under the bus and verbally abusing them. Sounds like you are having an unhinged rant based on nothing at all. Where did you get that idea? In conclusion, OP is just looking to justify why his poor treatment of women This is just completely hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:55 PM
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You must think all women are dumb children who can’t make serious decisions for themselves!” So many women do think of adult women in their twenties as children. They say so openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:53 PM
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Tell me that you are from the rural deep south without telling me that you are from the rural deep south.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:55 PM
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She clearly has no respect for you at all if she is willing to talk about you like that.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 05:33 PM
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Because Tate's detractors are the whole reason anyone knows who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:15 PM
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It's definitely an attraction issue. They might be attracted to these men because they turn a crank for them, but they are definitely still dating the men whom they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:13 PM
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This is an important point, right here. A lot of women just have to date carbon copies of their POS fathers for their entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:09 PM
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Lots of women who could have their pick of handsome men go from one toxic dirtbag to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:05 PM
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you don’t need to ask everyone to get a good idea of what’s going on. That only holds up if you have already proved both that what you are measuring will follow a normal distribution and that you have a legitimately representative sample.
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 09:53 PM
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I just posted a journal article You didn't understand what you were reading. They were making no such claims. They observed a correlation. How then can you claim there is "no science to back up an assertion that porn does any damage to the brain whatsoever"? Because you don't seem to understand the difference between correlation and causation. The fact is that we don't know. Sounds like a Russell's Teapot scenario. There's no basis on which to assert that porn does any damage whatsoever to the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:24 PM
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Now you are just reaching. No, we don't have any science to back up an assertion that porn does any damage to the brain whatsoever. Keep in mind that the NoFap nonsense comes out of religious conservative institutions and then tries to dress itself up with misinterpretations of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:28 PM
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Now it's becoming more mainstream even in the world of neuroscience and psychology... Who in the world of neuroscience is claiming to have proved that porn causes any damage whatsoever to the brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:14 AM
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Whatever society agrees it to be Right, and a situation where someone fails to uphold a fetish contract just isn't considered "cheating" in the sense that we apply it to mutually committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:21 PM
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But by default if your partner held it sacred, they wouldn't have agreed to one person sleeping around at all. By that rationale, we can call anything "sacred". If your phone company hadn't considered the TOS "sacred", they wouldn't make you agree to it. The whole point is that cheating has a special meaning within the contexts of a mutually committed relationship. This wasn't one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:08 PM
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That's why people throw them around "biden communist", "trump fascist"... Of course those don't mean anything coherent either. It is like that for those that do not understand it Again, it is easy to understand. It's just an irrational LARP. Hence you don't know what patriarchy is. Women can't be second-class citizens where they hold the majority of power. That's just silly. That is not a reply to my question Of course it is. The way you are using the terms is just incoherent nonsense as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:24 AM
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I’m confused, usually in a debate when you disagree with what someone proposes as axiomatic you address what exactly you disagree with and present your own facts. You haven't presented anything coherent enough to refute. It was all personal impression. 4/5 women being victims of sexual assault is a frequently cited figure in academia. Lots of hysterical nonsense comes out of the women's and gender studies departments, just like the theology departments. Either back up the claim with legitimate d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:12 AM
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Dude everything you don't understand sounds like that: That's silly. Not everything is unfalsifiable. Democracy, fascism, communism... These have clear, coherent definitions which are used consistently. Basically everyone talking about "patriarchy" in the context of the modern west is just making it up as they go along. "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." Which would be absurd to apply to the west. It's also not the standard in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:10 AM
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You’re reply effectively amounts to “U mad bro?”. That's silly. You had zero facts in your personal rage-narrative. It's just story time. If you’d like to engage in actual debate, that’s cool Gonna need more than your personal musings for that. There’s a 80% chance your mom and any other woman you care about has been or will be sexually assaulted. According to statistics you just pulled out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:41 PM
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Because men just don't have the same hostility toward overweight women that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:39 PM
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That's the patriarchy... Sounds like another vague, unfalsifiable boogieman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:38 PM
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But girls aren't told nonsense about what boys want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:38 PM
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The only way a woman calling another woman fat is worse than a man calling a woman a landwhale is by having higher expectations for women to “be kind”. That's goofy. For women, just being fat is seen as bad enough. Why do you give men who insult more of a pass than you give women? That's silly too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:30 AM
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Because it's scathing enough just calling each other fat. At least when a guy calls a woman fat, she actually has to be at least somewhat fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:57 AM
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What makes you say that? I’m drawing logical conclusions based on my knowledge of biology, anthropology, and philosophy. You are scatting out a personal rage-narrative based on your biases and political leanings. I’ve also read at least 2 dozen scholarly articles about sexual violence If you want to make a claim of fact and show hard data to back it up, go ahead, but a lot of that kind of "research" isn't actually legitimate research, but more like an experiential narrative that really has nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:40 AM
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The very definition of cheating as a verb is about violating an agreed upon procedure. And the very definition of the drinking as a verb is about consuming liquid, but we all know that people who go out drinking aren't out drinking water. Similarly, the word "cheating" has a special meaning in the context of committed relationships. You cheat if you take performance enhancing drugs in sport. Exactly, because you are betraying something that all parties are supposed to hold sacred. Someone can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:36 AM
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The lie is what boys are told about relationships. The disney shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:33 AM
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You don't cheat on someone by violating a fetish contract where you agreed to play the cuckold. Sure, you might be a lousy fetish player or whatever, but you can't legitimately cheat on someone who is already fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:41 AM
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No one ever got AIDS because their SO shared a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:36 AM
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Sorry dude but it doesn't work that way. The only thing comparable to her sharing images of her body is him sharing images of his body That's not really comparable because men and women are so inherently different. He would have to find a similar way of trading something that is valuable or desirable to women for his own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:35 AM
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That's like if there was an agreement that one partner can sleep around but the other cant. If the other starts to sleep around too, they violated an agreement, but they definitely didn't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:33 AM
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Men are also more violent and aggressive because of testosterone . Women are every bit as aggressive as men are, just less directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:20 AM
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But that's life, isn't it?! Your statement would be complete if you say humans would be less frustrated if they knew what people wanted from them. If they could read other people's minds. There's a huge effort made to tell this lie. It's basically a religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:19 AM
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They'll say the most horrendous, misogynistic, dehumanizing shit about fat women. Just not nearly as bad as what women say about fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:18 AM
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If we want women to believe this, we'd have to get rid of all the dudes who get triggered and have meltdowns when women do say things with brutal honesty. Women do the same and we manage to get along just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:17 AM
6

Was any of redpill not just borrowed an remixed from something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:16 AM
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The issue with this is that women actually believe the extremely bleak truths they tell men. Like when a dude is truly unfuckable, short, unattractive, broke, etc: they still believe there is some woman out there who will fuck him and love him one day. Not them, but some other woman. They don't, though. They put on a mask that believes that, then they go right back to being who they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:11 AM
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