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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:51 PM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:30 AM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:46 PM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:28 AM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:14 PM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:13 PM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:13 AM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:33 AM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:10 PM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:52 PM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:04 PM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:12 AM
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Question For Women8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:32 AM
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Debate8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:20 PM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:38 AM
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Discussion8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:22 AM
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Question For Women8mm_Magnum_Cumshot/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:19 AM
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Women LIKE being around men they like and get along with. Liking the company of someone is not the same as sexual/romantic attraction. Women very vocally remind us of this whenever the topic of the "friendzone" comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:43 PM
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You're missing the point, I never said anything about responsibility, I'm just pointing out your suggestions aren't realistic for many incel men. And frankly, it seems that women have welcomed these developments, since they are no longer constrained to their social circle when it comes to dating, and they can choose from a larger pool of men to select the most desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:16 PM
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These old men are so out of touch lmao. Only people who do those things our age are turbo autists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:07 PM
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like social circles Many people, especially single men, don't have a substantial social circle if they've moved away from their HS/college friends. Even more so if they WFH. meet-up groups, fests, craft nights, interest groups, cons What a meme. Most adults don't do any of these things. Their friends and social circle, if they have any, are overwhelmingly from work or school. concerts ect. "Women are there to have fun not be approached teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:06 PM
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How many people do you think would consider a 9-5 to be "fun"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:54 AM
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It’s the same dynamic that you see in the men who are bitter that women they didn’t even meet earlier in life, somehow rejected them and chose Chad but are now trying to settle with them. This is a strawman. Their grievance is that these women gave more and demanded less from their previous partners, and are choosing them primarily because of the money and lifestyle they can offer her, not out of attraction. Don't expect men to appreciate that, it's insulting. Just as how women find it insulting…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:37 AM
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but they aren’t going to get anywhere if they start this conversation with “it was a mistake for women to vote! Women should give more men chances but also have less sex! Women shouldn’t be allowed to divorce me unless she can prove I’m terrible in court!” Plenty of men don't say these things and they get labelled as "misogynists" anyways by people like you. See the MensRights subreddit. I could get behind a push to re-examine the mentality behind these measures. "Re-examine the mentatility" LOL…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:22 AM
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hey also minimize women’s issues and argue that men have it worse. And what's wrong with that? Isn't the entire feminist movement based on arguing how women have it worse overall(patriarchy, male privilege, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:18 AM
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They're only vocal about it when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:58 AM
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In an direct conflict with a near-peer power(cough China cough), the only situation where it's remotely plausible that women would be drafted, sexual assault would be the least of your concerns. I'm not sure why you'd expect safety in the military. Like, it's besides the point. Also, the self-reported rate of penetrative sexual assault for servicewomen within the past year is 2-3% according to this DoD survey(page 92). This is about the same as the self-reported 12-month rape victimization rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:36 AM
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women can still be cannon fodder, you don't need to be strong for that 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:25 AM
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Broken clock is right twice a day. And in many countries with active conscription(not just a hypothetical draft) feminists and progressives generally either don't care or are actively opposed to conscripting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:25 AM
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What is a "right state of mind" anyways? Our state of mind is always changing based on our actions. If someone can be held responsible for driving or attacking someone while drunk then they are likewise responsible for voluntary, consensual, sex while drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:23 AM
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What "power" do they lose when they get drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:57 PM
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Yes, red pillers love to point of the exception of picking up a drunk girl at a club without talking to her Casual sex is pretty ubiquitous now, it's not really the exception, not anymore. Generally, all you'll get out of that is a hookup with a bottom-tier women Depends on how you define "bottom tier". I think unattractive women are less likely to be going out. In fact, without good social skills, status and wealth are difficult to acquire, as humans are social animals and success in most emplo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:31 PM
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I think a lot of the hate against OF is based on jealousy, like these women are earning money, even if it's not that much, for very little effort. People don't respect that, protestant work ethic and all that, it's the same as people that hate on trust fund kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:40 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen a woman trash a guy for any of these things. I see it all the time. Sometimes they put up with it if he's hot enough, that doesn't mean they're happy about it. but I don't blame women for being cautious Based on a generalization....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:39 AM
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Being expected to contribute equally to a household and relationship When women wax on about "equal contribution" they're usually ignoring men's greater financial contributions. And when women trash men for wanting to split the bill, or not buying them flowers, or whatever, they're quite literally demanding extra burdens on men. Not all of them are. Generalizing an entire gender is bad form no matter who does it. I hope you have the same attitude towards women who pick the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:55 AM
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i wonder who controls all those institutions....... hmmmm truly a mystery for the ages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:52 AM
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Courts favour the best options for the kids. I wasn't talking about child custody, I was talking about the financial aspects of divorce which disfavor men even in the absence of children, as we are usually the higher earning partner in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:34 AM
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And focusing on proving victimhood is not only a waste but will drain energy as well as resources. Do you have the same attitude towards feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:33 AM
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Most of what you listed is just made-up nonsense And what makes you so sure of that? And it wouldn’t affect most men who just wouldn’t put up with bad behaviour Are you brain dead? What men are willing to "put up with" is irrelevant when it's a court milking them for everything in a divorce, a mother conditioning them to be a doormat and a simp, other women automatically blaming him for relationship problems, etc. And plenty of people, irrespective of sex, do put up with bad behavior and it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:14 AM
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Oops, I missed her comment there, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:10 AM
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My post was never intended to be exhaustive. And it annoys me when women try to reduce men's problems to those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:06 AM
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but I think your assumption that “the only thing men have to liberate themselves from are gender advantages” Did I say that? A man not wishing to “hustle” or “grind” and instead take a back seat supportive role in a partnership is conflated with laziness or copping out in many cases. Yes, most frequently by women who think their partner isn't providing enough for her.... Baldness being conflated with ugliness or lack of care in a majority of cases (not unique to men but baldness disproportionate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:03 AM
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How are men "responsible" for any of the things I listed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:00 AM
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if this is how you think women advocate For many of them it absolutely is how they "advocate". the stress and pressure of the masculine expectation of performance Several of the examples I listed are textbook cases of "masculine expectations" women enforce on men. this is needlessly antagonistic. As if women haven't been incredibly antagonistic towards us. that doesn't involve blaming the other gender Why is that bad? What if they are to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:58 AM
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You just gave a list of women's disadvantages. Are you high? In what world are any of the things I listed "disadvantages" for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:56 AM
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They can just call them "human interests" too Examples? but men have nothing gendered to liberate themselves from I just gave a whole laundry list of examples in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:26 AM
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Unless polygamy or single mothers having kids via sperm donors become normalized and prevalent, I doubt it would matter much. More women would simply be single and childless if a substantial amount of men are killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:08 AM
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It is true that most people regardless of sex are generally selfish, but women are far more chauvinistic than men, in the sense that they have a stronger collective identity and are more strongly biased in favor their own sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:04 AM
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There is absolutely nothing special about titty restaurants like Twin Peaks or Hooters, not anymore. Women wear more outfits that are more revealing than their uniforms on an everyday basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:20 AM
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They're not synonymous but they're not mutually exclusive either. Plenty of couples make the joint decision for one parent, usually mom, to stay home with a kid for some years during their childhood even if they take a hit in lifestyle. And many women don't work or only work part-time when the couple doesn't have a child, or when the children are older and more independent. 80k is barely “providing”; that is the lower end of middle class household income in the United States. Yes, lower-middle c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:17 AM
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In modern times, women are far more likely to have egalitarian relationships Note the comparative adjective here lol. Husbands and Wives Earn Similar Wages in a Growing Share of Marriages | Pew Research Center Per your link, in around half of marriages men are classified the primary/sole provider, and this is even the case for childless marriages. So I don't think it's only due to women taking time off to raise children, clearly many women are selecting for higher-earning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:55 AM
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80k is apparently the median annual household income for a household of 3 in a city like Phoenix. I doubt it would be that comfortable but not having to work is already a huge plus, like you're never gonna get back those 40 hours every week. I think your definition of "gold digger" is too narrow. There are plenty of women who aren't beautiful or classy enough to lock down a rich rich man. But they can still be gold diggers, they just have to lower their expectations for a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:49 AM
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I'm a college age guy who already owns a rental property and I hate female parasitism with a burning passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:05 PM
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and the risk of the draft being enacted is less and less. Given the new cold war with China I wouldn't be so confident. I’m talking about women who ARE pregnant And how did they become pregnant? In all likelihood through the choices they made. A better analogy would be a volunteer service member getting killed or wounded in action. Even in instances of rape. The vast majority of unwanted pregnancies are not due to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:10 AM
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Men who are drafted are forced to do something under threat of criminal prosecution. Who is prosecuting women for not having babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:33 PM
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Are you saying that she had the option of marrying a rich handsome man and passed it up in her 20s? Is this what you honestly believe young women are doing? If she could attract more desirable men at the time, or exploit her own sexuality in ways that would make potential partners uncomfortable(as you outlined), it seems quite plausible, yeah. This assumes men her age will be more desirable to more attractive women than her but why would that be the case? Because they likely aged better(or less …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:35 PM
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What are “worse options”? What do you think Sherlock? Unless a woman was planning on being a sugar baby she has the same options in her 30s as her 20s. No, she doesn't. She still has options but not the same quantity and quality. Many desirable men in her age cohort will already be married or in committed relationships. And she herself will be less physically attractive and less desirable to men due to her age. It’s not like when a woman turns 30 or 35 older men cease to exist. No one thinks wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:09 PM
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What a retarded post. For example many RP men argue that because men in a survey rate early 20s women most attractive that means no woman over 35 can get married and all such women will “die alone”. Most "redpillers" merely assert that women's desirability decline as they age and if they decide to get married older they will have worse options, and will end up settling. I have never, not once, seen a man on the TRP subreddit suggest that older women have NO options. If you have any examples you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:08 PM
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Marriage is almost never worth it for men anymore, due to financial, legal, and lifestyle reasons. Even most redpill/inkwell guys here don't really seem to accept that, and are holding out for their own "unicorn" to have a happily-ever-after with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:12 AM
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I think only an autistic person would take what others say to their face at face-value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:25 PM
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Women are more likely to die from lightning than from an "incel". And it's a statistical certainty that some vocally misandrist women will commit murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:13 AM
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The idea isn't that people are completely honest face to face, but that they will be more honest That has got to be the DUMBEST thing I heard this week. Facing no consequences for what you say means you can lie entirely about who you are and what you think They could, but why would most people? There are far fewer trolls in real life. Many so-called "trolls" genuinely believe what they say, they just get labelled that way by the mainstream because their opinions are offensive. And I highly doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:10 AM
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The incel subculture is tiny compared to the amount of hostility directed towards men by women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:47 AM
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but these social medias are often rather personal and people do show their faces there. A face cannot be easily linked to your real identity if you do not use your real name. And even if your social media is tied to your real identity, you are still far less likely to face real-life consequences for controversial opinions. Someone you know would have to find out you said it, be bothered enough to remember it, and be bothered enough for them to inflict real-life social or professional consequence…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:46 AM
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If "good women" don't do this then there are quite a lot of "bad women" in this world....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:50 PM
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I have to say, this sounds like a lot of women here. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:59 PM
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Broke women want rich guys. Fat bitches want fit guys. Womanlets want giants. Cry me a river bozo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:58 PM
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the man lives his dreams and follows his purpose Do you think most men "dream" of working of a 9-5, 5 days a week, until they're old? Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:57 PM
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That being said, why did women start acting out in the first place? They aren't "acting out", this is probably their natural behavior in the absence of social and economic pressures. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:54 PM
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Do you think women should be able to have financial abortion as well? Actually, women already have de facto financial abortion if they are able to hide the pregnancy from the father. Firstly she could put it up for adoption without his knowledge or consent. Secondly, every single state has "safe haven" laws that allow parents to drop off unwanted babies at designated locations, who will be then be taken into the foster system and put up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:58 AM
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That's besides my point, which is that women always default to "bodily autonomy" when it comes to abortion but we all know that's not the primary reason, the primary reason is that they don't want to raise a child. If fetuses could be transferred to willing surrogates they'd still want to be able to access abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:23 PM
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And there are people who just accept not getting the payment instead of going through the legal hassles. AFAIK all they have to do is report it, provide basic evidence, and the state takes care of the rest. The state is VERY invested in enforcing child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:21 PM
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Tell this to my friend who's blind now. Or the one who got ripped in four directions and will never have sex that's not excruciatingly painful ever again. What proportion of women giving birth do you think this happens to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:20 PM
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I didn't ask you how often other women helped you. I asked: And how many times have you seen a woman help a pregnant stranger with carrying groceries? ???? If the answer is "rarely" or "never" then why are you singling out men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:35 AM
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or premature aging due to poor lifestyle choices. Or genetics in case of white women lol. They just aren't built to withstand the sun...... Countries that consume more milk generally show better skeletal development in their populations compared to those that consume more meat Source? I'm not aware of many countries that have high meat consumption and low dairy consumption. Both tend to be strongly correlated with wealth. And my understanding is that children generally get enough calcium regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:21 AM
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I'd have to forbid her from ever leaving the house Based and haqqpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:11 AM
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the number of guys who will let a visibly pregnant woman struggle with her groceries Do you expect every man to be at your beck and call? For something as mundane and unremarkable as carrying groceries? Men aren't your servants, if you want a servant then hire one. And how many times have you seen a woman help a pregnant stranger with carrying groceries?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:00 AM
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There are plenty of women who complain about men being selfish, unhelpful, cold, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:54 AM
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The problem is then 80% of women would be single Is that a problem? I thought men were trash and most women are happier single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:37 AM
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They never made any normative claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:18 AM
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f you mean Islamist rather than Islamic For the purposes of this post at least, these are synonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:23 PM
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Yet here you are attempting to prove a point of how a man can give his wife the bare minimum. Even when there is tons of Islamic scholars speaking about why you shouldn’t. Source? All the ones I've read indicated that men should provide according to their means, and women have no legitimate grievance so long as their basic needs are provided for, and that is sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:19 AM
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Please vote blue people. 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:17 AM
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based opinions tbh i agree mostly 🚁🚁🚁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:08 AM
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I don't think Islamic countries, generally, are as obese as western countries. The exception may be gulf Arab countries due to the popularity of American-style fast food there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:07 AM
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I like beef/lamb more because they're more flavorful. Maybe you're just overcooking beef, ideally it should be cooked pink for most recipes unless you're slow-cooking it, or it's ground. But I don't like ground beef so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:06 AM
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Yes, but for fortunate women, they aren’t being married off to a poor man. This is basically universal. there would still be men who could not earn and did not deserve a wife. There will always be, but women's expectations in developed, western countries are arguably more inflated than they have ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:05 AM
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Syria is a secular state, actually. Iraq is also not an example of an Islamic state. I know, I was talking about the former Islamic State(you probably know them as ISIS/ISIL) governed territories in Syria + Iraq. So is the Islamic Republic of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Jordan, UAE, Brunei, Pakistan, Mauritania and Yemen. Most of these countries you listed may have Islam as the official state religion, and self-describe as Islamic states, but when you actually look at the constitution of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:02 AM
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Having babies is the expectation for most wives, globally, regardless of religion. Families in more developed countries have substantially fewer children. And in the most liberal countries being childfree is fairly normalized. But men also must pay a mahr to his bride in order to even marry her. Yes, but the amount is unspecified. It could be very little and so long as she accepts then it's still valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:54 AM
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IMO pork is overrated but I love drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:53 AM
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imagine being responsible for every single part of your wife’s lifestyle Per the Quran, wives are entitled to only have the basic needs of housing, food, and clothing provided by their husbands. In other words, there is no Sharia basis for demanding that your husband pay for your designer shopping sprees or fancy vacations or whatever. and have a religious mandate saying that she does not have to contribute a single cent to your home. They are generally expected to contribute by birthing childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:48 AM
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Do you understand what "universal" means? So why were men also perpetuating the “war on boys”? I never agreed with that label, I'm just pointing out how unnatural it is to expect children to spend most of their childhoods sitting down and listening to things that they have zero interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:46 AM
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well do more then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:40 AM
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Probably just me, but I think most people have at least a rough idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:40 AM
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Its been done for centuries Universal public education is a very, very, recent development. It simply didn't exist in most of colonial America, it didn't really take off until the 19th century, same for the rest of the western world. For the rest of the world it was even later. Hominins have existed for millions of years. "Centuries" is a drop in the bucket, and far too little for substantial behavioral change from natural selection. This is just condoning lazy parenting where you don’t teach ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:35 AM
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please take them all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:12 AM
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Forcing kids to sit still for 6+ hours a day isn't normal in the slightest, the vast majority of humans who have ever lived were not subjected to this so there's no reason to expect that boys will just put up with it. And doing it for 12 years is atrocious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:10 AM
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the bear would have more meat than the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:06 AM
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This is one of the reasons why women are walking away from marriage and children. No, it isn't, because most men don't think that. It's probably more common for women to expect men to provide without deferring to him in relationship decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:58 AM
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Can you give a single example of a male user here who fits that description then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:40 PM
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Most guys here don't talk about their personal lives all that much. You're literally just making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:34 PM
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What do you say to police officers and security guards who have had their own guns ripped from their bodies and used against them? How often does this happen? How in the hell can a man possibly recommend that women carry a much-prized item which is easy and desirable to steal? If you're doing it right, it should be invisible to others. And at least in the US, guns are widely available and there's plenty of cheaper ones, it's definitely not "prized" unless you choose something expensive,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:22 PM
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They're saying they don't know which individual men are more dangerous than a bear. You don't know which bears are dangerous either. Some are more territorial, some have cubs, some are predatory, etc. Also, you know the majority of bear encounters don't end in violence or death, right? Neither do virtually all of your encounters with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:19 PM
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Women are surrounded by men every day and will run into wild bears a few times in their entire lifetime, at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:18 PM
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Ok. Tell that to women who've been complaining about doing "too much" housework and childcare for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:03 PM
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I've seen plenty of people, and feminists especially, use the terms "allowed" and "not allowed" in the context of actions that don't carry criminal penalties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:55 AM
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"men aren't allowed to...." = "men are widely criticized for...." It's that simple. It's like when women complain about female beauty standards using the phrase "women have to.....". No one has trouble understanding that this doesn't mean women who are fat/ugly/hairy/don't wear makeup get thrown into prison. If you feel the need to ask what men mean when they say this, you're either being intentionally pedantic or you're just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:22 AM
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A lot of red pill ideas rely on fucking everyone else over to benefit yourself and refusing to do anything for society at large or people who can't pay you back equally or more than what you gave to them. Based. Women brutally assess and choose men based on what he does for them, how he improves her lives. Women religiously drill this into each other. It's about time most men start doing the same. No more supporting broke bitches, no more accomodating their neuroticism, no more groveling at thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:50 AM
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Nice guys finish last. Not just when it comes to sex and dating, but in most aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:48 AM
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is slightly less attractive she'll feel like she won the lottery April Fools was 2 months ago buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:15 AM
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Permanent housing would be permanent protection from the elements. It may not be necessaary for sufficient elemental protection, depending on the climate. In somewhere with a warm and mild like Florida or California, a homeless person is highly unlikely to die from exposure. The vast majority of humans who have ever lived would have been considered "homeless" by modern standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:01 AM
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My god, where do I begin? There does to be something at hand in that when males aren't guided and intentionally socialized in their early development they tend to behave in an anti-social manner Did you even read the study methodology? The rats were actively PREVENTED from socializing with others, the researchers went substantially further than not giving them "guidance" or "intentional socialization", whatever the hell you mean by those. For the short duration barrier (SDB) experiments, rats ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:52 AM
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Obviously not if she isn’t attracted or disgusted by him No? The physical sensation is there regardless of that. It's not as if the nerves are somehow "disabled" if she's not attracted to him. Female sexuality is more responsive. Vaginal lubrication happens even to rape victims, in response to being penetrated. This conversation is too disturbing to continue. Straight serial killer shit. Give me a break, we "use" other people all the time. When you hire someone to mow or lawn or babysit your kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:42 AM
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Some of the things you mentioned, yeah, and they still are. Stealing, physical aggression, and excessive drug use? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:37 AM
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Those behaviors you describe are definitely seen as morally bad by many TRPers though, btw. That's besides the point. I'm saying that, if you take their word at face value, their strategies seem to work on women that are very much normal. "Yeah well TRP strategies only work on a minority of insert negative adjectives women" is one of the biggest c*pes on this subreddit. just describe basic flirting skills, like being playful, direct, and seeming confident. Everything exists on a spectrum. But TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:35 AM
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murdering every brain and liver cell possible via chemicals stealing shit starting fights You belong to the gutters. I feel incredibly sorry for your husband/future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:53 PM
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Do you know how many marriages end in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:52 PM
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I think their priorities shift from attraction to finding a stable provider to have a family with. That's essentially what AF/BB is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:51 PM
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I've read plenty of "field reports" on TRP and most of them don't go into much detail about their behavior/personality. And when they do the descriptions generally don't strike me as particularly promiscuous or hedonistic. Unless you have a low bar for those things and include things like having some casual sex, getting drunk/partying on the weekends, or doing drugs. But that's all pretty normal for young people these days. typically showing disgust towards those women. They're disgusted by many…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:47 PM
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How would you know someone is abusive if they can't attract women to abuse to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:55 PM
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These men attract women who are their equals: promiscuous, hedonistic, and egotistical. What makes you so sure of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:53 PM
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Of fucking course it has, what tripe. What do you believe zoology is? Do you know how many species of invertebrates alone there are? In how many of them do you think researchers have studied sexual pleasure? The male ego so badly needs that to be true. https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/view/journals/jgbv/6/3/article-p581.xml I mean, whether it's done for pleasure or for money the same nerve endings will be stimulated. It’s disgusting behavior. Shameless. You're free to believe that if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:11 PM
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It is an act of intimacy between two people. Which can be provided as a service in exchange for compensation. Is it that hard to realize that many people don't share your attitudes towards sex? What makes you think yours are uniquely correct or valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:04 PM
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Evolution = design. "Design" implies a "designer", I don't think that's an accurate term to characterize Darwinian evolution. With a handful of rare exceptions, sexually reproducing species possess an array of endorphins and hormone cues and rewards which makes sex enjoyable for both parties. The reproductive behavior of most sexually reproducing animals have not been that extensively studied, especially in smaller animals like invertebrates. Even in cases where researchers observe cues of physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:57 PM
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I didn't ask you to do anything. I'm merely pointing out that it's a prerequisite for egalitarian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:46 PM
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Yet things like permanent housing and healthcare are still widely labelled as "needs".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:45 PM
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One is clear deception, the other is an honest and transparent exchange. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:29 PM
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Sex is designed Who "designed" sexual intercourse? Are you a creationist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:28 PM
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And accountants and plumbers don't massage their clients. What's your point? There's something unique about every job. Sex isn’t a service. It absolutely can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:26 PM
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Why is it not like any other work?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:25 PM
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Strictly speaking the only things we need to prevent immediate death are food, water, oxygen, and protection from the elements.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:23 PM
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If they don't have kids they can work and build a career, even if they're doing most of the housework it's still perfectly doable without kids. They wouldn't have that much more work than if they were living alone. And if their partners paid most of the expenses that enables them to save more(unless they blew it all on clothes and purses or whatever, in which case womp womp). If they do have kids she would at the very least get child support. and half the assets and possibly alimony if they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:01 PM
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But like any relationship, it really should be between 2 people who are able to come together as equals, not with one having a lot of power or privilege over the other. Then you'll have to convince women to stop leeching off of men's wealth. Which is frankly an impossible task.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:54 PM
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marriage rates and birth are collapsing! Despite the growing population numbers globally and in the US I was just pointing out that population growth is not synonymous with marriage/birth, as you were suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:22 PM
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Population growth in the developed world is primarily due to immigration. Average fertility rate per woman is <2 in almost all developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:17 PM
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That's not a good comparison. School isn't a zero sum game like dating is. If most women are chasing the most desirable minority of men that means less options for other men. Men who don’t attract women wouldn’t suddenly GET women if there was no Chad. I think they would, they would be more likely to settle. People's standards are in large part based on what's available and what they can attain. It's not as if women are born with some mental image of some minimum standard of man they would settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:56 AM
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good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:42 AM
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true tbh. very short-sighted
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:38 AM
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do white women not realize they'll look like prunes at 35 because of their love of tanning? or do they just not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:23 AM
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A middle aged man being assaulted by a teenage girl? Please, at best they would laugh in his face, at worst they would view HIM as the predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:16 PM
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Do you have a source for this? Off the top of my head, I remember seeing data from the Netherlands indicating that of lesbian couples who married in 2010(gay marriage was legalized in 2001 there, so this is almost a decade after), 26% were divorced by 2020, compared to just 14% and 16% for gay male and heterosexual couples respectively. https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2021/13/20-years-of-gay-marriage-in-the-netherlands-20-thousand-couples#:~:text=Marriages%20between%20two%20women%20are,male%20coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:42 AM
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which is really just common sense to normal, well-adjusted adults It's pretty much exclusive to western, and especially Anglo countries, due to a weird combination of puritan and feminist attitudes that infantilize young women and absolve them of accountability. In the rest of the world it's perfectly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:12 AM
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He can decide to press charges or not. This part is absolutely hilarious LMAO. You do not live in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:03 AM
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He wasn't complaining about anything. He was just pointing out how to identify flirting. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:01 AM
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Men Chads can and do play the field and seek other options even when in a relationship FTFY. So many feminist/bluepill arguments here rely on attributing chad lifestyles to men as a whole lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:59 AM
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Lesbians tend to "jump" into marriage, so it might be at least some part of divorces. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:03 AM
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sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:03 AM
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Is there any evidence for that? Either way it still doesn't explain high lesbian divorce rates, substantially higher than heterosexual marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:00 AM
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Honestly judging by the huge difference in gay male vs. lesbian divorce rates I am 99% convinced that women are the problem most of the time in marriages. Like if men are "trash" then how come y'all can't successfully date each other? There's a common denominator here and it's not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:59 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 09:58 AM
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I agree but I think is a bit of a red herring. The vast majority of abortions are for financial/lifestyle reasons, not therapeutic or for fetal deformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:41 AM
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I remember reading about a woman in Florida. Can you link an article about the case? In 90% of these cases I've seen it's the doctors being overly cautious in the face of new laws, even though most of them have exceptions for cases where the pregnancy poses a substantial threat to the mother's life or health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:01 AM
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Only 14 out of 195 countries women have achieved equality According to....... kind of since women's bodily autonomy is always up for debate Autonomy to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:50 PM
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A human is an individual organism from fertilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:27 PM
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Same reason that political lesbianism and 4B are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:19 PM
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There are forms of blame other than being labelled a homewrecker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:15 PM
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The social stance is that it's always a woman's man's fault whether the man cheated or the woman cheated FTFY When a man cheats there are no hordes of other men asking "but what did she do to make you cheat?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:51 AM
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yes, if he wanted her to be dependent on him Where did we get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:11 AM
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No one would call a wife "financially abusive" for keeping most/all of her money for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:08 AM
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so how did it come to be that she was financially dependent on him? Because she's lazy and doesn't want to work. do you have any proof that "financial abuse" is actually used this way? i mean its fishy that he was giving her spending money and then stopped This has got to be one of the funniest own goals I've seen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:06 AM
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All body hair qualifies but facial hair grows later for men so having a clean shaven face isn't really an indicator in the same way as like shaved pubes. Yeah, because men sexually mature later/slower than women do. Virtually all boys will have some facial hair growth by their mid teens. It may not be substantial but it's there and visible. They won't look "clean shaven" at all if they don't shave. If anything this type of patchy/spotty facial hair is considered almost universally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:00 AM
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But is the fuzz on hairless cats considered hair? I mean, "fur", "hair", and "fuzz" on mammals are all essentially the same thing: structures made of keratin growing from follicles in the skin. They're fine-tuned enough for people to have a sexuality. This is besides the point, I'm talking about distinguishing between "less hairy" and "almost hairless". The evolutionary mechanism for this is probably more accurately characterized as "men evolved to find less body hair attractive to distinguish b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:57 AM
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Sometimes "hairless" does mean "less hair", see in the case of "hairless" cats and guinea pigs I mean even women who shave likely still have some body hair, somewhere. And ultimately sexual preferences with an evolutionary origin are not necessarily so fine-tuned and specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:32 PM
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I think sometimes marriage can be "saved" from infidelity actually, especially if it was caused at least in part by neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:27 PM
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I mean you're assuming that evolutionary-origin sexual preferences are necessarily that fine-tuned and specific, which is a flawed assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:24 PM
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Having less body hair is also associated with femininity, since body hair growth is caused by androgens so men have substantially more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:05 PM
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I mean if you have less body hair overall then that's a more neotenous trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:03 PM
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Is this applicable to women's facial hair preferences as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:24 PM
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Accused by the cheater, to downplay her own infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:52 PM
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This is also true to some extent IMO but that's a separate topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:09 PM
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No, they just get accused of exploitation, "taking advantage" of her, sexual coercion, or even straight up rape. Anything to deflect blame. After all, it's so incredibly easy for women to make these accusations, they're basically impossible to disprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:39 PM
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any man who sucks dick can't call themselves an "alpha"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:15 PM
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They do, but substantially less than European women. "Hairless" often isn't literal, see: "hairless" cats and guinea pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:12 PM
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Nah that's bullshit. The consequences may have been more severe if they got caught but it was far easier to get away with it in the first place. There would have been no digital evidence, and women worked less so many would have been home most or all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:12 PM
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Yeah this has always irked me, like sometimes men literally throw hands with the affair partner. I'm not gonna go so far as to say physical violence is justified here but if you're going to hit someone out of anger it should be your unfaithful partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:05 PM
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Good take with regards to the person being cheated on, but I was mainly referring to wider societal attitudes in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:01 PM
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He's calling men pedos for preferring hairless women because that's a trait associated with prepubescent children(which is frankly flawed and eurocentric because E. Asian and African women have much less body hair). By the same logic women who prefer clean shaven men are also pedos because only prepubescent boys have no facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:17 PM
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I was pointing out a problem with your point. Again, why would we believe that men back then didn't care about body hair just because women didn't shave? Do you think women's life choices are entirely based on men's sexual preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:56 AM
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if they weren't dating we'd call what was happening slavery. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:48 AM
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I never asserted that men in the past preferred less body hair, why would I need to provide any proof? I'm just saying your argument isn't very convincing. Also, women wore less revealing clothing back then so the vast majority of the time their body hair wasn't very noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:47 AM
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Hairlessness is a sign of pre-pubescence. Or alternatively femininity, since women have relatively less body hair than men, and body hair is caused by androgens. Everyone here also seems to be using European norms as their frame of refererence, when other groups such as Africans and East Asians have substantially less body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:43 AM
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It’s a creepy though when you realise this is to keep a woman ‘childlike’ for as long as possible for the male standard. Cool, I guess women who prefer clean shaven men are also pedos then 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:38 AM
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because bodyhair is the sign that the woman is a mature human being, rather than a paedophilic porcelain doll. This take is wild. You'd never call a woman a pedo for preferring clean shaven men even though virtually all adult men grow at least some facial hair. "Neckbeard" is an incredibly common insult directed towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:36 AM
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Just because women didn't shave back then doesn't mean men didn't prefer less body hair on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:35 AM
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If she's honest about her wants and intentions Let's snap back to reality please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:54 AM
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Right so the gist of your comment seems to be "it's exploitation when men do it but not women". Not surprising coming from you. 1 is exploitation. 2 is not exploitation because he has more power What power does he have? having money of her own given some way instead of being used for her labour for free She's staying at his home for free, so...... 4 is not exploitation because he has more power Again, what "power" does he have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:52 AM
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No, not at all if both of them are receiving something they want and they are both happy about it. I mean you can get something out of an arrangement without being happy. I don't think many people are "happy" about their 9-5 job, but they still need it and wouldn't give it up. If she's honest about not actually being attracted to him Ok, come on, let's stay in the real world here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:21 AM
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She's not attracted, she's in need. She wants stability and a future for her family. Yes, therefore she's attracted to the money and immigration oppurtunity. Notice that I didn't say "attracted to him". "Need" is a strong word. Most people in developing countries stay where they are and get by, even if their lifestyle isn't the most comfortable. Yes, romance scams are hugely common. I wouldn't call it a scam unless she goes into it with the intent of divorcing him after all's said and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:39 AM
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It really isn't, not any more than food science is "difficult" because not everyone has the exact same palate. But virtually all humans enjoy fat, salt, umami, and sweetness to some extent. Humans still share a lot in common when it comes to food and aesthetic preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:26 PM
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Then why are you singling out men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:23 PM
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They aren't reading papers and understanding them. Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:18 PM
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Plenty of "third world" women find white western men more physically attractive than their local counterparts, for a number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:08 PM
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If those viral hashtags and the rhetoric surrounding the men vs bear thing aren't "generalizing" men than I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:50 PM
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What do you think those hashtags mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:25 PM
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I don't know, #killalllmen, #menaretrash, the whole man vs. bear thing on TikTok? Do you live under a rock or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:10 PM
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Men Chads, why won't you commit? fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:28 PM
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on balance hateful (just look at the way they speak about large groups of people who share a characteristic) Like how many women talk about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:21 PM
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a Dutch man going to the Philippines were the average male height is much lower Reminds me of this photo lol <image> How are they even the same species?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:19 PM
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You know what that "most consumer spending" is? Groceries. Wrong People in developed countries spend a fairly small portion of their income on food. Getting what the household likes but doing it regularly as a chore. Is getting the groceries a form of power? Power and responsibility most often go hand in hand. Food is a substantial component of most people's lives, so deciding what the family eats is an exercise of power. That doesn't mean it's malicious or unjust, but it is simply power. Even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:26 AM
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The average person doesn’t have much in assets. Well it's not the "average person" getting divorced, it's married couples, which are substantially wealthier than "average". Especially married men. And if they own their home(which, again, married couples are more likely to) that's usually a substantial asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:16 AM
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Or perhaps those careers are low-earning because they've traditionally been filled by women? I'm not sure how you'd prove such a thing, and I've certainly never seen any women provide evidence to support this. It's pure conjecture. And ultimately, value is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:12 AM
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Do you think that men who leave their wives and children Most divorces are initiated by women. have to continue contributing to the upkeep of those children? Yes. And potentially to the wife too No. if he expected her to stay home and neglect any potential career opportunities I mean, you're talking about pure hypotheticals here. No one can know for sure what she would have done or where she would be now had she remained single and childless. But I will say, the type of women who seek out more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:09 AM
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He has the final say in all financial matters This is pretty far from the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:33 AM
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Alimony and child support are temporary at best. Child support lasts until the child is at least 18, and can be extended if they go to college. And you're ignoring marital assets. Many people who were stay at home parents end up in poverty Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:32 AM
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unmarried women without kids make way more money than divorced women with kids. No, the better comparison would be if they had kids but were never married/cohabitating. Kids are a separate burden. the average child support in the us is $425/month Source? And presumably this figure includes separated couples who were never married, split parenting more evenly, had similar earnings during their marriage, etc. A man who was the primary or sole breadwinner prior to separation would likely pay substa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:30 AM
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Women pick lower-earning careers and even childless married women earn substantially less than their partners. According to Pew, the husband is the sole or primary(>60% of household income) in around half of childless marriages: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2023/04/st_2023.04.13_breadwinner-wives_03.png
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:25 AM
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Under neoliberalism/capitalism the “provider” has control of the money and therefore control over capital/resources/whatever When you get married any money earned from that point forward is legally not "his" but rather "theirs". Divorce settlements reflect that. And most married couples substantially combine finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:19 PM
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a household with one earner earns less than a household with two earners Truly shocking news. Also The comparison shouldn't be to when she was married to him, the comparison should be to if they were never together in the first place. I could easily reframe this as "women leech off of men in marriage so their living situations becomes relatively worse if it ends". I was talking about couples where the man is the sole or primary provider, not all couples. None of the research I've seen on this ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:17 PM
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I was playing Manor Lords and now I truly empathize with medieval peasants after some glitch caused me to lose my entire crop during the winter. An existence where one bad drought/freeze/storm/blight is the difference between survival and famine....... Food is so plentiful for the vast majority of people today that leftards had to make up terms like "food insecurity" to maintain their pessimistic narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:48 AM
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With regards to women as a whole? Overwhelmingly indifferent. With regards to young, western, women, the demographic I interact with the most? Depends, but I definitely at least mildly dislike most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:31 AM
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your 70% stat is in the context of non-reciprocal IPV That's one study out of countless referenced in the webpage. I wasn't exclusively discussing that one, just wanted to draw attention to it. when talking domestic violence, most people will think about the grievous cases, the ones where people get injured. Not in my experience. Men hitting their partners ALWAYS gets a lot of negative attention even when it does not result in injury. The vast majority of domestic violence is not that severe, vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:56 AM
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That doesn't change anything. Searches for "death" and "fatal" also came up empty. Which is unsurprising given that the article you're linking is about **nonfatal** domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:27 AM
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Per the numbers she gave it was ~1700 vs ~1000. She chose to emphasize "The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males", but the disparity in actual intimate partner homicide victimization rates don't explain most of that disparity. 60% more is a far cry from 5x more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:25 AM
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He might be able to get a few decent kicks and punches in before having their limb torn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:20 AM
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obviously more scary getting slapped by someone who could choose to do much worse, than getting slapped by someone who can't really hurt you that bad. Women are very much capable of seriously hurting or even killing men with things you could find in an ordinary kitchen. In this analogy, the poor person scraping by is men in the dating marketplace, and the software developer is women in the dating marketplace. The software developer analogy is about 2 years too late lol. The job market has gone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:17 AM
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Where does it say that? I searched for "cause" and "leading" and came up empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:04 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "we". Plenty of women say things like "men are trash" or "kill all men" due to their past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:01 AM
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and "the case they make for gendered IPV" I have had multiple discussions with feminists on this issue and many of them have claimed that female-perpetrated IPV against men is substantially less common than the inverse. Which is why violence committed by men against women is a larger problem than the opposite. This only ever gets brought up when it comes to violence between the sexes. If a short skinny dude starts a fight with a fight with a much bigger guy, and gets clocked, few people would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:59 AM
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Yep, or compared to a grizzly bear at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:50 AM
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Bro thinks most men are like John wick or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:48 AM
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IPV is the leading cause of serious injury and death to women ages 18–24 in the U.S. Source? And even if that was the case, that doesn't mean it's likely to happen. Young women are the least likely to die adult demographic to begin with. Something being relatively more likely than other things can still be incredibly rare, and that is the case here. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/ipv-factsheet508.pdf Doesn't pass the smell test and I don't know where they're getting that figure from.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:47 AM
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I don't think I need to explain what domestic violence is, *most people* understand what it is perfectly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:39 AM
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Why are you victim-blaming? Would you be interrogating a woman like this if she claimed that her exes were verbally/physically aggressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:37 AM
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they aren't a serious threat, even with a weapon like a knife or bottle. .........
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:37 AM
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The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males Primarily because men are substantially more likely to be killed by someone other than an intimate partner. Why is this relevant? And almost all IPV does not end in murder, why focus on the tiny fraction that does? It's far from representative of most instances of IPV. According to the CDC, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 10 men have experienced contact sexual violence, physical violence, and/or stalking by an inti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:29 AM
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And almost all domestic violence does not end in murder. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:28 AM
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Rape does not require physical resistance or even an attempt at physical resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:04 AM
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the same study also says that male on female IPV is much more likely to result in injury. This primarily tells me that women are bad at fighting. Lightly slapping someone and beating them to a pulp with a shovel are both one incidence of IPV, but they are obviously not the same. Never said they were, I'm discussing prevalence here, which is far easier to quantify than "severity". The sort of IPV that gets people crippled or killed absolutely is gendered, let's not pretend otherwise. This is a ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:58 PM
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Using any physical force against your partner, especially instigating physical violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:51 PM
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male aggression: punching til concussion, strangling to death, shooting *An incredibly small proportion of male IPV
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:51 PM
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A man does not need to be "physically subdued" if he doesn't fight back. And many men don't because they don't realize what's happening to them is assault and/or they've been conditioned to avoid using force against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:49 PM
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This post is a massive self-own Is passive-aggressive ( posting hurtful things about women on social media to get a reaction out of them) That's just "regular aggressive", there's nothing "passive" about it. "Passive aggression" is a more feminine thing. Criticizes and judges from the sidelines (huge criticism of women constantly) Women trashing men constantly: Is condescending and superior Women hyping themselves up and describing themselves as attractive: Focuses on unfairness Women complainin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:15 PM
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and women aren’t attacking or scaring men on a trail. How many men do you think have ever attacked a woman on a trail? If and only if women begin behaving as men How many men do you think are exploiting female partners for their money compared to vice versa? Anyways, you're derailing, if you're suggesting that accusations are confessions(and you were) then why is that not similarly applicable to women who characterize men as dangerous. It's not like it's rare either, plenty of research suggests …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:18 AM
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Thieves think all people steal. Interesting....... does this logic also apply to women who choose the bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:01 AM
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and proceeding to roll over and give her whatever she wants are not the same Neither me nor OP mentioned this. Carefully. Not sure how one would do this "carefully". unfortuntely all it takes from her is a single social media post or police complaint to ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:54 PM
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How would you know that? IME responding with sympathy to female tears is fairly universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:23 PM
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"this man hurt me so I'm going to tweet #killallmen and #menaretrash are twitter" entire PPD female hivemind comes to her defense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:22 PM
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two men I dated did the same, my brother did it once, and it’s emotional terrorism. Did their reasons for doing it have anything to do with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:21 PM
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Black women often have a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to race and dating. And they are validated by mainstream society in a way that South and East Asian men in a similar situation are not, who are more likely to get labelled as "*ncels".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:15 PM
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African American males. It’s males of every demographic committing the crimes. So now we’re back to the bias being against males. Which you already said is commonly accepted. So there ya go. You're ignoring the racial component. the root reasons why AAs have the outcomes they do are unfortunately for you more sympathetic. How would you know why they have the outcomes they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:00 AM
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I grew up in church lots of things are said for example. Christianity, especially less progressive forms, is becoming increasingly marginalized in mainstream western societies. If you feel men as a group have biases said against them more generally, I think it’s because of the second part of my comment. Compared to what other group? African-Americans commit around half of homicides in the US despite being under a seventh of a population, yet publicly expressing biases against them is almost univ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:40 PM
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Men can wear a plain t-shirt and jeans every single day and no one will comment that they should "dress up a little". How often does this happen to women, realistically? The vast majority of men don't give a shit. And while other women may notice and judge her for it, I doubt many would actually bother to confront her over something so trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:34 PM
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I think some social double standards still negatively affect women, but at least in secular developed countries it doesn't hold a candle to codified discrimination against men by governments and institutions. And I mean actual feminism not red pills definition Feminist organizations and individuals are the ones pushing for policies in higher education, the job market, and the criminal justice system that give women special treatment. inb4 "real feminism has never been tried"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:31 PM
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Imo the fetus is a full fledged person exactly the same as an adult human If you accept fetal personhood then IMO it's more comparable to a child than an adult. In that case, most people would agree that the parents of a child have an obligation to provide for it to some extent. For unborn children one can convincingly argue that should include gestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:29 PM
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Men and women are biologically different so there are going to be double standards no matter what. But these are seemingly only ever defended when they benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:26 PM
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You can like someone or something and still be settling. They're not mutually exclusive. I love dry-aged steak but it's expensive and I'll still happily enjoy a burger or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:25 PM
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Firstly, I think other groups get biases that are socially acceptable. Which groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:24 PM
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That's essentially what you're saying. You're devaluing attention and interest from less desirable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:07 PM
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Most people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:06 PM
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I don’t think you can bring up violence committed by females without comparing it to violence committed by males. When you look at those stats, it makes sense why someone would be more biased toward thinking women are less threatening. The vast majority of male violence is directed towards other men, not women. In the context of intimate partner violence, women are as physically aggressive or more physically aggressive than men. I have yet to see any data(excluding law enforcement data which onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:16 PM
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Would you characterize tall people being treated better(this is a thing) as an example of "male privilege" since men are taller than women? Even if it resulted in significant and quantifiable disparities in outcomes between the sexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:11 PM
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“And now you know why we choose the bear” Men are dangerous because they checks notes..... don't want you in their restrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:08 PM
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Women deceiving men to advance their socioeconomic position is being "exploiting" now? How are they being "exploited"? They have no right to move to the US or some other developed country to begin with and are voluntarily taking measures to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:04 PM
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Forget mediocre, plenty of downright hideous and/or horrible people of both sexes get married, what's your point? Maybe she or family pressured him into it. Maybe he was lazy and didn't want to bother with dating anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:02 PM
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It was a story I saw on TikTok that inspired this post actually. If it is "made up" then it was "made up" by the author who posted it. And highly desirable men such as actors and professional athletes very frequently cheat on their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:59 PM
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That's trivial compared to the effect of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:08 AM
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If someone gets Botox and fillers, that too is what she will look like all the time "with normal maintenance." Yep! I don't consider those deceptive either. That doesn't change the fact that that's not how she really looks, What is "how she really looks" anyways? One's appearance can and does change. If I amputated one hand, is having two hands "how I really look"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:08 AM
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The difference between those things and makeup/shapewear is that they are not superficial, it's what you look like ordinarily. If a brunette dyes her hair blonde, that's what she will look like all the time with normal maintenance. Whereas women typically aren't wearing makeup a lot of the time, if not most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:47 PM
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Being mentally ill and being desirable are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:35 PM
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thats what we are doing. Who's "we"? Society as a whole? Men accused of rape absolutely face substantial social and professional consequences even if they aren't convicted of a crime. why did you make me click on your profile with a porn name It's not a porn name it's a video game reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:36 AM
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literally anything other than "well we can't stop it and we can't put people in jail bc its hard to prove so i guess we will do nothing at all" Who's saying this? ok? every rape ruins someone's life. Getting your rapist convicted won't un-rape you. never seen this, can you link me? I literally just responded to one person in this thread who claimed that standards of evidence are too high for rape trials, look in my comment history lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:29 AM
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women are obsessed with chad but unfortunately there are only so many chads to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:47 AM
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I agree, now tell that to the people who are tweeting #BelieveWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:31 AM
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What would I need to call them out for? Same reason you called me out, for speaking about this subject in gendered terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:21 AM
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no they don't, a criminal complaint is not "evidence" Testimony from the complainant is evidence, that's what I said. IMO a very flawed form of evidence, but still. but we can't do ANYTHING about rape? Do what? then why do only 2-3% of rapists go to jail? Just because a complaint didn't result in a conviction doesn't mean it can't destroy someone's reputation, career, social life, etc. theres no social movement saying rapists should go to jail based on someone's accusation, either. I have very m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:18 AM
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Rape complaints ARE gendered, the overwhelming majority of complainants are female. When feminists speak on this issue they use gendered terms, the prevailing hashtag was #BelieveWomen. I am simply responding in kind. I'd bet money you don't call THEM out on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:14 AM
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I can't control their minds but I can call them out and I'm doing so. "Random citizens" form juries, which are an integral part of the legal system and decide whether to convict or acquit defendants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:12 AM
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Not reporting =/= poor investigation. You not choosing to report doesn't reflect badly on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:11 AM
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currenlty rape is poorly investigated How would you know this? Also rape kits are a thing and physical evidence can and should be collected. That's merely evidence of intercourse. It doesn't prove that it was nonconsensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:52 PM
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The fact that people think rape accusations are believed immediately Did I say this? I certainly don't think they are universally believed, otherwise feminists would not be campaigning on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:51 PM
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I didn't say "disregard", did I? You can treat a complaint seriously without automatically accepting everything they say at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:50 PM
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It's not a dichotomy between treating someone as a liar and believing them automatically. There is such thing as reserving judgement unless/until there is more evidence. Just like women need to be diligent about not putting themselves in those situations where a stranger is more likely to rape them, men need to be diligent about not putting themselves in situation where a woman is going to go crazy and try to send you to jail for consensual sex. Neither of these justify victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:21 PM
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womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:53 PM
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Considering how miserable online dating is for women aswell Miserable? OLD offers women an endless buffet of chads, they have way more choice and are no longer limited to the most attractive man/men in their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:46 PM
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I don't consider people your age to be "young" My point was that everyone understands men say things amongst ourselves that we wouldn't say to you. You'd do well to remember that. Respect is earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:36 PM
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If 30% of mothers are doing no work and 70% are working full time and doing all/most of the household chores as well, the average work time for mothers will likely be less than the average hours worked by men with children It's not just "less", it's around half that. You're understating the disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:34 PM
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I'm sure "second shifts" exist in some marriages but as I said in my OP, women make it sound more common than it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:32 PM
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"reasonable" is a value judgement and I think it's pointless to argue about whether someone's height standards are "reasonable" or not. But it goes to show that contrary to what they were say, women generally want men that are substantially taller than them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:25 PM
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They're only "nice-looking" to other people with equally awful taste. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most Americans, including myself, are homeowners. Most of the urbanists on reddit aren't lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:14 AM
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You say this as if the USA has a shortage of either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:13 AM
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Islam is right about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:09 AM
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This is why Israel Islam is based. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:08 AM
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She says that like it's a good thing. I wish I was a chimpanzee.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:06 AM
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There is nothing wrong with "McMansions" and I will die on this hill. MC/UMC families value big, nice-looking, homes with a lot of outdoor space for the kids and don't care about arcane architectural principles/styles, "McMansions" are simply meeting that demand. Urbanist redditards can take their elitism and shove it in their wardrobe(because their apartment is tiny and they even don't have a closet lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:03 AM
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Thinking that Old European societies were matriarchal because of some female sculptures is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:01 AM
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Most adult men are not dating anymore, they got married many years or decades ago. That's not really indicative of women's dating behavior now. A man being in a relationship or marriage does not necessarily prove genuine attraction/love. Women have financial/lifestyle reasons to settle down and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:57 AM
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Even worse. The representative sample of women known as “speed daters”. Very few samples are perfectly representative. Also, “preferences” are not the same as “requirements”. There is no clear distinction between the two terms and trying to draw one is dumb. People have preferences and the strength of these preferences can vary. Obviously people tend to evaluate partners holistically and a woman who sets a standard of, say, 5'10" might accept a shorter man if he was highly desirable in other res…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:47 AM
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Are single-income households actually unviable now or have people's lifestyle expectations gone up substantially since the mid-late 20th century? I know this is fictional but I was rewatching young sheldon and the family of five(two parents and three kids) was living in a tiny single floor ranch house with 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. The twins had to share a bedroom. The show takes place in the late 80s and I think that this is a good example of an acceptable "middle class" lifestyle then. Would…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:38 AM
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How old are you and have you ever heard of the term "locker room talk"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:34 AM
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The researcher may be Dutch but the data is from North American speed dating experiments. You would know if you had actually read it instead of immediately dismissing it because it contradicts your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:33 AM
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Human behavior and cognition can absolutely be systemized, there are entire academic fields dedicated to this......
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:09 AM
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Red pill men like to pretend that red pill tenets require an invitation to some super secret and mysterious club when it's right there on the sidebar, available on all the open and private red pill subs and all other social media as well. He was explicitly talking about people who aren't reading the subreddit. Are you illiterate? who applies the No True Scotsman fallacy when criticized. In order for that fallacy to be applicable there has to be a broadly accepted and clear-cut definition of "red…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:06 AM
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Most women prefer a man who is taller than they are. Most women's height preferences are significantly stronger than that. This study found that women's stated minimum preferred height in a partner ranged from 5'7"(shortest women) to 5'10"(tallest women). More research: https://www.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/10zxomb/heightrelated_studies_articles_megathread/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:04 AM
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The average height of white American men has plateaued for a few decades now. Genuine food scarcity is virtually nonexistent and vaccination is ubiquitous, so they all more or less reach their genetic height potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:00 AM
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but so many men in these spaces seem to want to use a view sex and a way to harm or degrade women Which ones? Can you give a single example? I can't say I've ever seen it, "worst case" scenario they just see it as a way for them to get off and are indifferent towards their partners. to find someone to eventually become long term partners with. It makes me sad to hear so many men talk about sex like it's some zero sum high stakes goal oriented game. It's not just men. Casual sex is becoming incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:58 AM
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They are just normal guys with normal views and beliefs on sex and dating What is "normal"? For younger men, "manosphere" views are becoming increasing the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:50 AM
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What the hell does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:11 AM
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How do you guys think political beliefs correlates with masculinity/femineity in women? A lot of rightoids like to characterize left-wing women as more masculine and right-wing women as more feminine but I think this kinda misses the mark. Arguably many feminine cognitive/behavioral traits likely also contribute to left-leaning political beliefs and explain why women are more politically left-leaning than men. Moreover, some of the most "behaviorally masculine" women, particularly gym bunnies an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:57 AM
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I mean, do you know how old u/Sea_Roll_2099's son is? Because that's what we were talking about. And with little kids they sleep a lot, usually 12+ hours a day. And they still don't need to be tended to 24/7, they can watch TV or play with their toys or read books or whatever. I have a brother 12 years younger I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:37 AM
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Well the “second shift” wouldn’t apply to non-working mothers would it Part of me addressing this misconception is that working mothers are not as ubiquitous as some make it seem. There are still plenty of households with kids where mothers don't work at all, temporarily or permanently. so if we are looking at hours worked it doesn’t make sense to include SAHM in the average does it Sure it does, since the relevant question is how much work women are doing on average compared to their husbands. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:25 AM
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Give me a break kids are either at school or doing their own thing most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:17 AM
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among married, employed adults Lol, can you read? This excludes unemployed wives and those not in the labor force. And it's referring to all wives not just ones with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:11 AM
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Key word being employed here. Also, both this dataset and Pew's don't distinguish between single mothers and married/cohabitating mothers. The former work more than the latter due to financial pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:10 AM
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What's the point of having a stay-at-home wife then........
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:34 PM
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His best bet would be with an age appropriate woman in his same boat. All 10 of them? Good luck finding one lol. If a woman is still inexperienced in her 30s it's almost certainly by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:22 PM
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Or she was just prioritizing her friend over a guy she just met....... That doesn't mean she wasn't interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:58 PM
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why do girls love the hunger games so much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:07 AM
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Is he just a placeholder boyfriend because you're afraid to be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:56 AM
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You’re just making assumptions. Where? I never claimed that they weren't just that marriage is not really the best indicator of genuine attraction, because there's a transactional component to it, she's getting something out of it. Casual sex is a better indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:54 AM
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You don't need to agree with my assessment, I'm just saying giving examples of couples that met decades ago is attacking a strawman. Because few guys are claiming that dating was also this difficult back then. I would also point out that marriage has significant lifestyle/financial benefits for women so getting married doesn't necessarily mean they're that attracted to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:27 AM
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I don't think TRP says that many women can't find a man to commit to her, they say that they can't find a chad to commit. There are THOUSANDS off 4/10 Billys out there who would take her and commit fully in a heartbeat, thousands. TRP would probably agree, AF/BB. Although IMO the example of a woman you gave is really undesirable would probably have to lower her standards further.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:13 AM
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if the fuhrer was still alive today he would find solace in women's sexual selection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:09 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=hate%20men&restrict_sr=1 inb4 "i hate men" doesn't actually mean that she hates men it's actually a complicated sociopolitical critique of the patriarchy blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:04 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=men&restrict_sr=1 have fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:56 PM
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TwoX lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:39 PM
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Even dozens or hundreds of anecdotes are not a statistic. And I think women weren't as selective in the recent past for a multitude of reasons, so giving examples of couples that got together decades ago is hardly relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:38 PM
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He's literally just one man....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:30 PM
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According to "natural selection" and "reproduction", this guy is actually a winner Natural selection isn't normative and people should stop talking about it like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:29 PM
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You'd be wrong, about both components. Women perpetrate domestic violence as much or more than men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:26 PM
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Women slap their boyfriends and husbands all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:28 PM
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It's not "slightly", even just looking childless married couples with significantly less housework to do, in half of them men are outearning their wives by at least 50%. that means you are not only responsible for your job and ensuring your half of the bills are paid I highly doubt that most married women are paying "half of bills" lol. And ultimately, in the eyes of the law, when you get married anything one party earns from that point on is owned collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:24 AM
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Your inability to use a contents page doesn't mean the evidence isn't valid. I'll repeat myself one more time: it's standard practice to refer to specific pages when citing a book. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9483460/ The correlation presented by that study is only -0.19 so it's quite a jump to conclude that a lack of desire is usually due to unhappiness over household tasks, like you did. Moreover, just because women think men are not doing enough doesn't mean they are right or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:23 AM
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And I showed you evidence you disagreed, so I asked if you had evidence which you don't appear to have. You avoided addressing my specific criticisms, probably because you knew I was right so you wanted to deflect. The study you linked does not discuss household tasks at all. And you did not cite a specific part of the book which is standard practice. Disagree is having a standpoint, not being neutral I'm afraid that's how debates work, but you do you. I never claimed that you were wrong, I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:12 AM
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I never made any claims about why wives withhold sex, why would I show evidence? You, on the other hand, have made claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:48 AM
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I'm not reading a whole ass book and the latter doesn't mention housework. It's standard practice to cite specific pages of sources to support your arguments. And husbands still significantly outearn their wives, even in childless marriages, so it's perfectly reasonable to expect wives to perform the majority of housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:34 AM
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Every time sex is withheld sex is not the issue something on a deeper level is the issue. Often it's the share of household things. How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:14 AM
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It was "okay" depending on how severe the force is and the reasons for it. I'd bet money that you wouldn't give two shits if one of your female friends slapped her boyfriend/husband because he did something to piss her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:10 AM
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Women are more fearful than men, even of gender neutral things like COVID.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:21 PM
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I don't watch porn habitually. Surveys have shown that women are highly interested in rough sex acts like choking, hair pulling, etc. Attraction to step-siblings you didn't know from early childhood is generally normal. There is no opportunity for reverse sexual imprinting to occur. Statistically, how many Gen Z women do not have casual sex? I think it is increasingly normalized and common in this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:20 PM
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Among women, it’s likely also due to the extreme ease of access to porn among their generation, and the expectation from young men that women should accept being fucked like the women in porn There's nothing really special or unique about mainstream porn. How would you know about their sexual preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:24 AM
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These are all manosphere talking points and sentiments which literally couldn't be further from the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:20 AM
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Society is not exclusively male. "Men" and "society" are not synonymous, obviously. He meant "the man or men with issues need to change"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:17 AM
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Nah this is bullshit, it's still incredibly rare for women to be murdered by men and murder only represents a tiny sliver of violence between the sexes. If we look at domestic violence or sexual assault it's much closer or even reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:12 AM
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minimum looks required for an asian male to have a chance with a 300lb landwhale with a deformed face in the west:
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:07 AM
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Because asking to split is weird and can give them the "ick".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:06 AM
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coffee is lame tbh go get drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:05 AM
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and most reasonable women don't expect it or make it a big deal Then most women aren't "reasonable women" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:04 AM
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"the person who asked the other person out should pay teehee" Realistically this means "the guy" the vast majority of the time because guys are still generally expected to make the first move. If your friends or coworkers invited you to go out for lunch or dinner you wouldn't expect them to pay for you, why is this any different? The only time its reasonable to expect someone else to pay for your food when going out to eat is if they phrase the invitation in a way that suggests it like "let me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:32 PM
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Your post-20's life lasts 80 years. This is way too optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:51 PM
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where as single woman live longer than married ones. There are a lot of statistics, some say the opposite. You can't just read the headline of a news article, it's more complicated than that. For instance, does "single women" include divorced/separated women with children?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:24 PM
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Sure, I meant relative happiness compared to the general population/women generally/married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:21 PM
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libido disparity Which results in women having higher standards. Libido disparities within established relationships are not a common topic here. female autonomy Again, it's discussed here primarily because increasing female autonomy enables them to be more selective. It all goes back to women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:59 AM
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I decided to talk about women specifically because the issue of women's preferences and standards lies at the root of most of the debates in this subreddit. Cry about it if you want, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:57 AM
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But this misalignment doesn’t come from a place of malice or intentional lying Malice is a value judgement and I don't want to get into that. But lying, intentional dishonesty, absolutely. For the reasons discussed in my post. I never said women are always or even usually dishonest, but if we look at who women actually choose and don't choose, it seems likely that many of these women saying things like "the bar is on the floor" are not being very honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:54 AM
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You don't want to admit that maybe it is actually your personality or your social skills How can you be so sure? Do you know these men? Do you anything about what they are like and their experiences with men? you're shooting far above what you should be aiming for I mean "what you should be aiming for" is a normative question. Someone could argue that men shouldn't have any standards. And of course, in a society where most women, even the least desirable, arguably pursue the most desirable men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:46 AM
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The vast majority of people in the west eat regularly. Many men do not have sexual/romantic intimacy regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:19 AM
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Can you quote me where I said not to trust "only women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:17 AM
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I don't entirely disagree but this post was about women's preferences, because this one singular thing arguably lies at the root of most of the debates and posts here. Also BBLs and many types of makeup are designed to be subtle and look natural, so I think what you're describing usually stems from genuine ignorance. Men are often unaware of women's cosmetic enhancements, for instance when men say they prefer "no makeup" but the faces they think have no makeup on actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:09 AM
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which, of course, you're not, but there's no way to prove it because you can't read women’s thoughts I never said otherwise. I never claimed women are always lying when they say appearance/money doesn't matter that much to them. Some are definitely telling the truth but there are too many incentives for dishonesty for me to accept anyone's words at face value. so- don't pretend you're being honest about why you're here or why you're posting, either. I'm posting here to remind everyone why it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:59 AM
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Perhaps it doesn't justify it but it absolutely explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:55 AM
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Does it really matter if "all" women are like this when arguably the majority are? If, say, 70% of men were rapists would you tell women "not all men"? "Not all ____" is a cop out. 99.99% is technically "not all". Let's discuss proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:50 AM
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Because the reproductive drive is one of the strongest and most essential behavioral drives in all animals, including humans. You can't easily switch it off any more than you can switch off your appetite. Would you tell a starving man to just accept their hunger?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:47 AM
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Even less desirable women have plenty of options if they put themselves out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:44 AM
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Different jobs are compensated differently. I don't see a significant difference between an addict spending his wages on drugs and an addict being compensated with drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:43 AM
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This is the truth for literally all work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:32 PM
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I will relate and empathize more with a son, I want my kid to look like me and be like me, and males are still higher achieving than females so I will probably be more proud of a son. Maybe this changes if feminists turn the affirmative action up to 11, or maybe the gap widens if AI takes over all the useless busywork HR and marketing jobs dominated by women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:45 AM
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Daughters are more likely to care for their aging parents IDC less likely to become criminals IDC and most men don't. more likely to finish college You say as if this is necessarily a good thing. Female dominated college majors are lower paid than male dominated ones, and men dominate the well paying trades. I'd be more proud of a son that ran a HVAC business then a daughter who ended up in a busywork HR/marketing role. definitely more peaceful toddlers, Would rather deal with a boisterous toddl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:43 AM
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Femininity influencers are by no means fringe lol. Phrases like "if he wanted to he would" are really popular on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:17 AM
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Suicide rates don't tell us why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:31 AM
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The older I get the more I understand son preference in non-western cultures. I would be unironically be disappointed if I had a daughter. And this has nothing to do with "daughters becoming thots" or whatever, I wouldn't want a daughter even if she became a nun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:27 AM
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I was just pointing out that her argument that women shouldn't date older men because they have some flaws is dumb. I never said they have to accept certain flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:50 AM
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Very few men want to die alone and childless. IMO this is preferable to being a betabux. Men are more solitary by nature than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:37 AM
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Why should we women be lenient? Can you indicate where I said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:35 AM
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I dont know many low achieving older women Did you mean to say low achieving single older women? Because IMO there are plenty of older women that wouldn't have amounted to anything if a man hadn't wifed them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:34 AM
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Many men here definitely point out the fact that men tend to find younger women more attractive, or say that they prefer younger women. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But I can't say I've often seen some of the abrasive language you're describing here. I wouldn't condone it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:32 AM
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I think a woman who was living like this would be criticized for not being feminine enough or dutiful enough because it's an inherently not family oriented lifestyle Only by those who lean traditionalist/conservative. Not by feminists and progressives. Whereas lower-achieving single older men get shit from literally everyone. That was my point basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:28 AM
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Then men should accept that older women also have flaws and are less attractive. Oh wait. They don’t. In what way do they "not accept" older women's flaws? I never said that you should overlook certain flaws, just that everyone has flaws and that doesn't mean they're unworthy of dating, companionship, and love. It's fine for young women to not want to date older men due to their flaws, just as it's fine young men to not want to date date older women due to their flaws. It's not fine to shame old…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:24 AM
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That point wasn't essential to my hypothesis, I just wanted to bring up something I've seen here. I think few would people disagree that as women get older they are more interested in settling down and starting a family so money matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:23 AM
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Why would young women choose old broke men for short-term relationships over Chad? Older chads exist. I said "older" not "old". A college age woman with man in his late 20s or early 30s would still be considered a significant age gap to most women here. Every time a post describing a relationship with that type of gap pops up on AITA or RA it gets called out by the commenters without fail. There's even a market for DILFs, especially if he has most of his hair and is in decent shape. It doesn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:16 AM
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I don't understand what your point is. That's literally what I'm saying, many older guys prefer younger women because women their own age are more demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:50 AM
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I understand their motivation for living like this. It makes sense, getting older and taking on so much responsibility and starting a family can be daunting and requires a lot of sacrifices, so why not just put that on the backburner until they can no longer pass as a 20 something. I agree with this, and I think a lot of people who shame older men for living a carefree lifestyle like this would cry misogyny if an older women was shamed for doing the same. A lot of women who shit on guys like thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:48 AM
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My food example was an attempt to illustrate how integral value judgements are when it comes to social interactions. I think there is probably more universal agreement on liver vs pepperoni pizza compared to what standards are reasonable. Why do you think this subreddit exists? So based on your premise, why would older women be bitter and jaded about men that deplays unacceptable flaws? I didn't say that older women are usually bitter/jaded. My rhetorical question was, again, intended to point o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:56 AM
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Surveys conducted by Cornell University’s ILR School reveal nearly 85 percent of American female respondents report facing street harassment before age 17; nearly 70 percent before age 14. If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've read the methodology that survey. It polled visitors to a website about sexual harassment. Sampling like that is incredibly biased, it's like that other post right now gauging how many men are Johns based on a survey of incels lol. And it doesn't account for the age of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:37 AM
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Pepperoni pizza is going to be ranked above liver & onions. It doesn't matter if taste is technically subjective. Most people want and value pepperoni pizza. What's your point? It's still a value judgement. Flaws are unacceptable if they are only bearable to someone due to naivete. Are young women naive or are older women just bitter and jaded?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:15 AM
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Who said anything about expectations? I certainly don't think older men should expect young women to be receptive to their advances, I don't think ANY man should expect ANY woman to be receptive. But if they are receptive and they get together what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:13 AM
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Most women still want kids, so how does that address my point? Just because a relationship might not lead to a family and kids doesn't mean it's not worth having. That's the attitude most young people have these days. And that's without even going into hookups/FWB situations. "Choose better" means anytime a relationship didn't work out is her fault for choosing that guy to begin with. Can you give a single example of men saying this? These older men can't offer looks You should speak for yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:03 AM
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Hope you have this same finger-pointing energy towards low income women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:02 AM
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You’ve had more time to mature and build yourself, you should have something to show for it. This talking point sounds like it came straight from CPAC or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:55 AM
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Firstly, it’s rude to confront random people with these questions in the first place. They're asked if they want to interview first. They're by and large not shoving mics in front of random passerbys and asking questions without getting permission first. And secondly, the answers are not the kind of thing you should advertise to the public. Why not? The respondents know what they're getting into. How is this any different than a talk show on TV or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:54 AM
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So what happens when those younger women want kids? People are delaying childbirth later and later, have you gotten the memo? Having children with broke/struggling men ain't "choosing better," which is what guys here tell us to do all the time. What a strawman. From what I've seen "choose better" is usually used in context of avoiding dangerous/abusive men who do wear it on their sleeve. An ex-con, drug dealer, guy who dresses thuggish, basically the stereotypical "bad boy". In any other context…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:51 AM
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Wasting that on a flawed older man is stupid Everyone has flaws, including you. If I were to date someone significantly older, I would naturally demand significantly more than I would the men of my age group and average man If she found the older man as attractive or more attractive than guys her own age, then I don't see why she would demand more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:47 AM
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Clearly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:33 AM
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And I understand there are some flaws that are widely considered to be unacceptable and moral failures, like being violent/controlling, but realistically how likely is someone to be disqualified on that basis? Most people don't exactly wear those things on their sleeve. A scenario that is far more likely is that lower-income older men are disqualified by women their age on the basis of income, since older women are more interested in settling down and starting a family, and money matters more if…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:28 AM
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My dating coaching business is called Game Global. It features a network of Telegram and Facebook groups, where single men can find friends and discuss the finer elements of dating in their city. We have groups for 300+ major cities across the world. Occasionally, we send polls to our network to get a taste of the global dating landscape. The results of our latest poll shocked me. We asked: ‘Have you ever paid for sex?’ and 37% of men said yes. So they polled incels (I mean let's be real, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:59 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:56 AM
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Do you have any data to support this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:56 AM
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in a group of people, a predator will emerge, yes that doesn't mean everyone in the group is a predator it's funny how women will say this and then go on to justify hatred of men by comparing them to poisoned skittles or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:49 AM
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Why? Those people were clearly willing to be interviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:44 AM
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Approaching a woman, as a man, and then abruptly asking her “what do you bring to the table?” Is the equivalent of me walking up into a business where I’m looking for a job and then abruptly asking the CEO and employers “what do you contribute to this business?” No it isn't, because what others do for the business is irrelevant to your interests as an prospective employee. What is relevant and comparable to OP's analogy is discussing compensation, work-life balance, perks, and company culture wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:34 AM
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It's just the male equivalent of femininity influencers telling women to keep their standards high and be brutally selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:32 AM
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it makes you sound like a loser 20-something TikToker who goes up to women in public to ask about their body count or their income requirement for a man Of course you have a problem with female behavior being exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:31 AM
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I'm telling you to choose better. Hope you have this same type of energy when women are complaining about men 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:25 AM
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F&F says a lot of outlandish things but the bottom line is that no woman has ever been cuckolded by an unfaithful partner. They also make claims they all men will cheat I don't think it's possible to know exactly how common cheating is for each sex because of the strong social desirability bias associated with such a question. If they admitted to cheating and word somehow got out, well, that could very likely ruin their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:13 AM
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It’s obnoxious but that’s about it to me unless they start like following you. That's how I always saw it. Listening to how women talk about it you'd think it was like PTSD-inducing or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:11 AM
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Men too, don't kid yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:32 PM
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"Here" as in Canada and the US, probably Europe too but I don't live there so whatever. The vast majority of men don't get that much attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:31 PM
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This is so common though Not here it ain't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:01 PM
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He had no physical standards. You think you know his standards better than he does? He was mean to his girlfriend for no reason other than to be a dick. It wasn't for no reason. She ASKED him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:55 PM
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average female reaction to men having physical standards lmao "no one wants to force you to date women, inkwell"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:48 PM
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A man that is generally considered to be more sexually attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:38 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/17nygy6/my_f20_boyfriend_m21_just_broke_my_heart_with_one/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I swear to god women play the dumbest fucking games.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:37 PM
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three years of being blueballed by MAPPA, it's over at last thank god. i am finally free.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:55 PM
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Data were collected from 52 individuals I swear, do you people even read the research you link?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:35 PM
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The major issue is that a very significant number of prostitutes are drug addicts. Again, do you have any statistics? Y'all women keep making things up and disappearing when asked to back up your stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:17 PM
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All it takes is someone getting a tad bit too nosy and judgemental. If you don't use your real name and photos connected to your real identity in your course of work, and the vast majority of sex workers don't, it would be INCREDIBLY hard for them to find out about stripping/prostitution. How would they? Do you think the internet is a magical tool? Internet porn is a different story, but then again that's only if you're quite well-known/high profile. And even if you get unlucky once and one empl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:10 PM
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The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:02 PM
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Sure it isn't. And giving someone a haircut isn't the same as providing a massage, they're different services. Just because sex is a big deal to you doesn't mean it is to other women, your perspective is incredibly solipsistic. No one is forcing you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:01 PM
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Did you drop out of elementary school? Assuming he wants to leverage his money to attract women, then if he is smart he will not just throw money at them. This can mean hiring prostitutes or actually getting into a transactional relationship where he's getting laid. You can be smart and not want to hire prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:59 PM
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Between the shame tied to the job It would be incredibly hard for employers to find out that you did sex work in the past, unless you're a high profile pornstar/OF producer. the dependency on drugs to deal with the stressors and the trauma involved in a lot of the work These sound like overly bold assumptions on your part. to help them out. They can go to the police lol. But if they are genuinely being held against their will and want to go home immediately, then yeah it's problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:19 AM
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The vast majority of people have to work to make a living. And the vast majority of women make a living by means other than selling sexual services. If they do it willingly for money then they're not being forced. and lack of understanding (language barriers and the like). What do language skills have to do with the question of their willingness? Plenty of foreign workers have poor/nonexistent language skills, visit a fruit farm during harvest season when you get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:53 AM
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Why would I care about what goes on in Saudi Arabia or India? The progressive, western, countries PPD users overwhelmingly live in aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:49 AM
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fatcel is volcel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:48 AM
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There is more demand than supply, so poor women with nothing to their names are shipped across countries and sometimes across seas,with little protections and often little say, to be prostitutes. Who's forcing them to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:28 AM
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They're buying a service, just like you would buy a haircut, massage, etc. We're not talking about selling slaves here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:59 AM
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and trafficking has gone up to meet demand How do you define "trafficking"? Men who buy women are not good men. They're buying a service, not a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:59 AM
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and that reason is that the world is run by married adult parents who do not want prostitution to be a viable or normalized option for their daughters it's not really your business what your kids do for a living once they grow up. Men dont want their wives to be prostitutes as a job you don't speak for me! governments don't want to compel women to take jobs as prostitutes to get welfare If the actually worked as prostitutes full time they would likely make enough to not be eligible for welfare l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:57 AM
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I didn't say that. This hypothetical man has expressed an interest in leveraging his money to attract women. If he is smart then he will not throw money at them but instead demand sex/companionship in exchange for provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:54 AM
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Nah, he's woke(relatively) if he realizes that just throwing money at women and hoping they'll like you is a losing strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:31 AM
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I think he's going to waste a looottt of money on the first pretty girl that smiles at him. Depends on how woke he is about women. I don't respect any man that uses money to attract women, but if he's smart he can at the very least require sexual favors/dating in exchange for provision, as opposed to just throwing money at women in hopes that they will like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:24 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/17mujqb/comment/k7ndm9v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 In this comment thread the most upvoted comments are either women defending their own high physical standards or women shitting on men for having high physical standards. If women didn't have double standards they would have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:42 AM
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