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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:40 PM
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DiscussionAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:26 PM
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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:57 AM
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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:10 AM
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CMVAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:27 AM
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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:59 PM
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Question For WomenAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:19 AM
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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:06 AM
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Question For MenAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:50 AM
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Question For WomenAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:16 AM
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DiscussionAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:53 AM
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Question For WomenAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:48 AM
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CMVAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:12 PM
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Question For MenAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:54 PM
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DebateAI_CODE_MONKEY/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:32 AM
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Teachers The majority of K12 education is a waste of time and money, teaching knowledge with no everyday or professional applicability. Nurses The trend of keeping the elderly alive for longer but in ill health has been one of the greatest catastrophes in modern times. People are spending an ever greater portion of their lives in poor health and dependent, increasing the burden on working age adults. social workers Serve only to help the poorest and least productive people out of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:32 AM
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https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/HS/htm/HS.170A.htm This is a lie. There exemption for therapeutic abortions in Texas law does not stipulate a term limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:38 AM
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Ok, find one state where there are no medical exceptions to abortion restrictions. Just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:32 AM
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"Affirmative action" policies are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:29 AM
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and included exemptions for medical necessity in their abortion restrictions. Learn to read please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:07 PM
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Depends on which job. And frankly the vast majority of people would rather be at home than in an office, look at how employees overwhelmingly hated RTO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:05 PM
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When every time women stop doing it their partners complain Can't say I've ever seen this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:42 PM
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and men who don't want me able to access abortion even in cases of medical emergency This is a strawman, the vast majority of conservatives and Republicans are okay with medically necessary abortions, have stated as much, and included exemptions for medical necessity in their abortion restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:15 PM
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Ronald Reagan signed the biggest amnesty to illegal immigrants. This was supposed to be a compromise with the Dems, amnesty for secure borders going forward. The latter didn't happen...... The capital wants immigrants because they need more workers. The "labor shortage" is a myth, in markets demand can almost always be fulfilled by adjusting wages, and the labor market still generally favors employers. As for seasonal workers, especially agricultural workers, there are easy-to-obtain visas for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:09 PM
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it was easy to get them to blame feminism and leftists for their struggles Of course it is, because leftists and feminists regularly spew vitriol towards men and champion policies in education/employment that disadvantage men at the expense of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:05 PM
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People can be lazy about actually doing it, but it really is a full time job. No, I don't think agree. Most of the time you aren't actively tending to them, you just need to be around to watch them while they do their own thing. And statistically most kids in the US do attend preschool, starting at the age of 3 or 4, so they will be away for much of the day for the vast majority of their childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:01 PM
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Part of being an adult is the freedom to decide your standards of cleanliness for your own home. Few men do no cleaning at all, dishes have to be done eventually, garbage will fill up, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:49 AM
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Part of being an adult is the freedom to decide your standards of cleanliness for your own home.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:49 AM
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This is wrong. Her work is just as valuable as his. It really isn't. Money is what provides the essentials of life, a roof over your head, food in the fridge, etc. And children themselves can more easily handle handle housework and childcare than financially supporting a family. A single parent working full time can use childcare services, prepared foods, meal-prep, cleaning services, etc. Kids can learn to cook and clean, and older children can watch their siblings. A single parent without a jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:39 AM
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effort required for raising children does not scale linearly. But let's assume she loves every minute of the time she spends looking after kids, cooking and cleaning, organising play dates, paying bills, buying gifts for family members etc etc etc. The latter 3 are not regular occurences and/or require an insignificant amount of time. And "looking after kids" is not necessarily active time most of them time you just need to be around at home while they do their own thing, kids don't need to be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:10 PM
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And women don't do the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:08 PM
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He probably works 70 hours a week because he wants to be out of the house Exhibit A: women not appreciating male breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:11 AM
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Are you on the spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:03 AM
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What does ND mean in your flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:48 AM
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Honestly I think he wasn't so bad, apart from the coomer shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:47 AM
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Seeing self-described "progressive" and "liberal" women bend over backwards to defend a certain medieval Arabian/neo-Christian ideology because "brown people" or something never gets old LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:44 AM
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Lawyer dude, those are largely unenforceable, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:42 AM
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because he was at work 70 hours a week. I also worked 20 hours a week but he didn't seem to care about this So he's working more than 3 times as much. Yeah, you should be doing basically all of the housework and childcare at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:39 AM
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To women, chad not committing is "mistreatment" if they want it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:37 AM
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Most women don't want to have sex with these kinds of men. People do things they don't want to do all the time, for a number of reasons. Sexual attraction is a spectrum It's a form of deception when a man promises commitment but then ghosts. "Guys in every community know of AT LEAST 1 or 2 guys that are NO GOOD (talking about will use and discard the girl, caring nothing for her)" This is what you were responding to. He mentioned nothing about promising commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:08 AM
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Women can get SEX more easily, not relationships. They can get both more easily, relationships to a lesser extent. Chances are some portion of the men willing to fuck you would also be willing to have a relationship. Most men do not have many options, and even the most desirable men usually settle down eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:47 PM
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To them, a man whom they are not attracted to is not "better than nothing". The vast majority of women are not single and celibate. Even men they find less attractive can be useful to them, if they want a simp to pay the bills and buy her things, or a husband to support a family. is that men have evolved an ability to deceive women into sex. Are they really being deceived? Or do they just feel entitled to commitment, and end up bitter when their baseless expectations are not met?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:44 PM
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cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:26 AM
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This isn’t just for women this is for men also so they can have unprotected sex and then not have to pay child support. Men have no say in your pregnancy. Outside of marriage people generally make contraceptive decisions for themselves independently, without the input of their partners. If a man specifically requested his GF who wasn't already on the pill to get on it, because he wanted to have unprotected sex, without being willing to chip in, then yeah I would also consider that parasitic. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:01 AM
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Cool, I wasn't responding to you I was responding to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:57 PM
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Men have an undeniable preference for women who wear make up. Curling my hair is cheap, make up is not ($100 a month), and the prices are raising. Even men who say they don’t like make up they unknowingly praise us for wearing it contributing to our usage of it. This is a bad analogy, you're not providing with them with a good or service like men who pay for your meals. You're improving your appearance attract more and higher quality partners, it's more comparable to men hitting the gym. Most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:40 AM
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Obviously the actions are not the same but the motivations are the same, at least in the example I gave. She criticized men for planning for the worst and ensuring an easy way out, but women advise each other to do this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:53 AM
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You're missing my point. Why is it only problematic when men make decisions with the goal of being able to easily leave a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:52 AM
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otherwise I'd have to assume he is simply keeping his options open. When women advise each other to have their money so they are not dependent and stuck, are they not doing the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:59 PM
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Why is it "bad faith" from men to expect women to do more around the house but not "bad faith" for women to expect men to pay for dating expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:29 PM
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Not if it was your wife Then it's not relevant to dating/sexual strategy, is it? or you married the victim, or if you paid her dad Not in the US, maybe in some shithole country. or if you were rich/powerful, or if no one believed the victim, or if there were no witnesses By that logic there is no such thing as a crime and we are living in a lawless society, because people get away with all sorts of crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:28 PM
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Don’t put up with bullshit y’all respect yourselves Why didn't you call women's expectation for men to pay as "bullshit" as well? You defended it, rather. This proves my point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:02 PM
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and the women are expected to doll up. If a guy said that he expected women to do full makeup/hair on a first date to look good for him he would probably get called misogynistic as well lol. Men don't say shit like this. Women do it themselves to make themselves more desirable. Whereas there are plenty of women online saying explicitly that they expect men to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 06:00 PM
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Inequality is inequality and not a household chores are daily. If they split regular chores like cooking/dishes evenly but the woman did other things like shopping and cleaning y'all would still be bitching, I guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:59 PM
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Rape has always been illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:57 PM
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What gets women upset is the constant “I deserve a hot, thin, 21 year old virgin who gives me constant sex and affection and pays for her own dates and also wants to be a SAHM but works full time” and I’m a neckbeard living in my mothers basement and I let everyone know that if you do not meet this requirement, you are subhuman. nice strawman lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:10 AM
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if i say "i prefere virgins and every woman who isn't a virgin is a dirty slut with no moral values, who will die alone" This is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:35 AM
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Lots of male dating and sexual strategy involves trying to make women do things they don’t want to, from talking to men to sex acts No, it's about making them want to do these things. The overwhelming majority of male dating advice does not advocate forcing women to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:35 AM
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I don't see any men defending unequal housework burdens unless it's balanced with unequal financial contribution/work hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:32 AM
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You have to seek out partners that share your values and preferences, not continually lament to the internet that the world isn’t conforming to yours. I hope you have this attitude towards women who often complain about men being lazy not doing enough around the house. That frankly describes the vast majority of women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:31 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/195rx6d/my_girlfriend_28f_wants_to_break_up_cause_i_30m/?sort=top look at the responses. it's like they expect men to read minds or something. i fucking hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:46 PM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:34 PM
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At an individual level it's a mere value judgement, you thinking they're "below average" isn't a fact, it's your personal preference. I was talking about the broader data, those dudes weren't the only guys rated. If they rate most men as below average that shows they overestimate how attractive the "average" man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:34 PM
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Those dudes specifically are irrelevant. which is that most men are rated as below-average by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:42 AM
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All the women I know who talk about men to pay for dates and buy them flowers aren't reciprocating. The former is explicitly non-reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:01 PM
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the pictures of those guys are below average It seems like this type delusion is not limited to women. And the sample pictures are besides the point, which is that most men are rated as below-average by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:00 PM
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Expecting men to spend a lot of money and time on you without reciprocating in kind is expecting subservience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:57 PM
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Being subservient is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:50 PM
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https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyourinbox.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:43 PM
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It's women that have a skewed perspective on what "average" is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:39 PM
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I see women bitch about short guys on TikTok all the time which is far more mainstream than Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:38 PM
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with the things that men around here say every single day and act like they're two sides of the same coin. What things? Can you give some examples? It's crazy how bluepill loves to strawman here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:37 PM
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Stop coping. The primary reasons men get rejected are appearance and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:34 PM
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…they literally reference this report “The National Analysis of Police-Recorded Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation Crimes Report” several times in the article bro. Cmon. Right, checked it and as I suspected it was only based on criminal complaints. If we want to judge reality based on criminal complaints then sexual assault must be incredibly rare! You can believe frequency and impact of sexual assault is equal between the sexes if it makes you sleep better than not, I do not. The impact may no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:58 PM
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"More women" is still not "every woman", is it? And anyone can make things up based on alleged personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:48 PM
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Your post is a massive strawman. Most people who say these things are not claiming they are true literally all the time, rather they are simply talking about what is true most of the time or a general trend. And sometimes there are genuinely very few exceptions, if that is the case then why should one pretend otherwise? Categorical thinking is everywhere in life, for instance in French class we were taught numerous grammatical rules that almost always had exceptions. The exceptions to the rules …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:37 PM
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In the past most men married young as well. And the "problem" is not their different priorities per se but the fact that the "settle down" guy is chosen for transactional/financial reasons and often isn't treated as well(sexually and otherwise) as her exes. All while he is deceived by her and society broadly to think otherwise. I mean, would you be happy to be a human ATM?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:54 AM
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it means that a substantial majority of men are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:46 AM
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Those are just two sources you cherry picked lol, most of them are about men's sexual success and how it correlates based on behavior/personality. And as I already said women self-reporting liking benevolent traits doesn't at all contradict what I said since in my original comment which is that they consciously like betabux partners because they make their lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:43 AM
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The guys I'e known who really "played the field" were usually like 6-8/10. I know plenty of conventionally attractive guys who settled down early by contrast. I don't care about your anecdotal experiences, and nor should anyone else. Men by and large value sexual variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:41 AM
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Men who are less sexist are more likely to have long term partners, so they rack up less "numbers". Men overwhelmingly value sexual variety from all the sociological and psychological research I've seen so if a guy isn't playing the field, at least when they're young, it's probably not voluntary. Point is, being a misogynist doesn't inherently make you get laid more. I never said it did. Obviously nice chad is getting a lot more pussy than the average ink well. Being "disagreeable" does, but bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:35 AM
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If you had actually read it you would know that most of the research cited in that link focusing on comparing sexual success between men and not on women's reported preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:31 AM
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I can't say I've ever seen members of this group cite that study. Participants rated willingness to protect with items asking how safe, vulnerable, and cared for they would feel with him (α = .73); willingness to provide with items asking how generous, helpful, and selfish he would be toward them (α = .84); willingness to commit with items asking how dependable, loyal, and committed he would be (α = .86); attractiveness asking how attractive they find him and how good a boyfriend/husband he woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:22 AM
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Basically yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:14 AM
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even if it isn't your personal preference. Learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:07 AM
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Only one part is about benevolent sexism and it's about social approval and not sexual attraction/real sexual success. The overwhelming consensus is that disagreeableness/misogyny in men is positively associated with sexual success. Latent class group Number of sexual partners Mean SD Normative 8.31 17.18 Norm/male activities 7.55 14.86 Misogynistic men 15.53 17.51 Sex focused men 52.00 29.54 This part was really eye-opening, misogynistic men(not as in "benevolent sexism", as in hostility toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:02 AM
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You'd be very hard pressed to find an escort charging less than 100/hour in the US, and usually it's substantially more. Other forms of sex work like stripping or OF might pay less but are also less taxing. Like OF is literally just snapping some nudes and uploading it, you don't even have to include your face and many successful creators don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:59 AM
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My theory is that women consciously like "betabux" guys but are subconsciously less attracted to them, all else being equal. I mean, who doesn't like having an easier life and constant validation? That's not mutually exclusive with subconsciously lower attraction to them, you can "like" someone for primarily transactional/material reasons. It's like the female version of the alleged "Madonna-Whore complex" in men, only this one isn't pure conjecture and actually has a substantial amount of evide…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:49 AM
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Apparently people like money or something. Shocking news, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:30 AM
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It's a career with minimal barrier to entry, high earning potential, and low+flexible time commitment. Having easy access to this career path absolutely is a privilege, even if it isn't your personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:29 AM
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when every woman has a story of being 10 and some adult creep making sexual advances, leers, or catcalls at her Have you spoken to every woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:26 AM
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“Children are committing 18 rapes a DAY and 15,000 rapes and sex attacks every year, shocking report finds as police warn sexual violence has been 'normalised' by online pornography” according to this DailyMail headline. Right, the Daily Mail, definitely a great source of unbiased news. The meat of the article clarified that it’s not “children,” but mostly boys: Since they are citing police officials I presume it's only accounting for police complaints. I think it's disingenuous for feminists to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:25 AM
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That's literally the same article you posted in the OP and it doesn't link any data or studies, it only quotes police officials. We have no idea how they got these statistics or what their definitions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:22 AM
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I've read that splitting the bill is the overwhelming norm in western/central Europe and IMO that's a good litmus test for whether a progressive woman is a more genuine egalitarian or whether they're parasites that only support equality when it benefits them, like most women here. Of course, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, what's your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:52 PM
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But being offended that guys discuss differences in women? They're offended that men are assessing them(American women) as low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:39 PM
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r/nothingeverhappens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:37 PM
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OP said she was central european. Regardless euro women generally seem to be less unpleasant and fat than american women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:37 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/193da1t/my_22f_boyfriend_24m_is_a_passport_bro_and_i_had this post really triggered the american women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:30 PM
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I've expressed it several times over, unless you are in your 30s and seeking to be in a relationship with a literal teenager or an adult who can't legally drink, I don't give a rat's ass. The drinking age is 16-18 in most western countries, it's weird that you think America's puritanical drinking age is somehow relevant. I'm sorry, but nothing compares to the abs, stamina, and rock hard dick of a man chad in his mid 20s FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:38 PM
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So do men? Woman are regularly dumped with kids they didn’t want cause a guy changed his mind How common is this? Men are less interested in children than women are to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:56 AM
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It's not kidnapping if you're a parent with custodial rights......
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:46 AM
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Realistically men cannot get away with this because the mother would notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:21 AM
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because it’s unfair to dump a human being on someone that potentially can’t care for them, can’t afford them, and is likely going to fuck them up. Only when that "someone" is a woman apparently. Clearly you have no problem with men being forced to pay child support for children they never wanted. Everyone that doesn’t want kids should take measures to avoid them, but why should only woman have to deal with the fallout of both their mistakes? Who's saying that? Most of the pro financial abortion …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:19 AM
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Child support is the right of every child, from both parents. The fact that sperm donations and surrogacies exist undermines this claim. Men have an option: Don't leave your sperm where it may conceive. Abstinence/contraception wasn't good enough for all the women bitching about Roe being overturned. Why should it be for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:17 AM
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He consented when he had sex. Ok, then so do women, and banning abortion isn't forcing them to do anything they hadn't already consented to. He also should have had at least one conversation with his potential sex partner about what they would do should pregnancy happen This is not a guarantee of anything. Women can and frequently do change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:15 AM
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there isn’t a million families that will take it in. In the US at least there is, figuratively. There has always been a shortage of infants to adopt, families have to wait years for the opportunity. And of course there is abortion which remains legal for most Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:14 AM
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"Hateful" is a stretch but it's highly plausible that sexually successful men are more likely to use sexually coercive tactics and less willing to commit, both of which women don't like. I mean look at frat dudes, they tend to be sexually successful and they don't exactly have the best reputation......
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:55 AM
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Obesity is not excess weight, it's excess fat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:48 AM
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what is this username LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:38 PM
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Being necessary is not the same thing as being sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:28 AM
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uday hussein rapemaxxed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:56 AM
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This is a cut and dry example of female privilege and you're still doing mental gymnastics to deny it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:02 AM
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Which people in the """manosphere""" have claimed that height is a guarantee of success? Can you give examples? Or are you just building strawmen? And for white American men 6ft isn't even that tall, the average is like 5'10".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:43 PM
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If you ask me, joining hobbies to meet women is pathetic and I genuinely sympathize with women when they complain about men doing this. And statistically it's very uncommon for couples to meet this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:40 AM
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Transitioning is the equivalent of rage hacking. Everyone can tell you're not legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:37 AM
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Sometimes people are just unlucky tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:32 AM
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I think most women hold the feminist belief that women should be free to chose their life on their own individual terms as long as they're not hurting anyone and to have the same legal and social rights and opportunities as men. I don't entirely agree, for one I think prostitution and sex work is a contentious topic among women, and feminist/conservative/older women often dislike it and support legal restrictions on it. Maybe not directly on the women, but on the male buyers, which is still indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:28 AM
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but in the long term, they will have to face severe mental health problems, by continuously withholding their emotional side for sex. Do you have a crystal ball? They will most probably still end up lonely whilst having sex with no intimacy. What makes you so sure that men value emotional intimacy as much as women do, and that they can't get it from close friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:17 AM
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and women still have to do the breastfeeding, birthing etc. How many men have you been on dates with and how many men have you had children with? Saying that a stranger you literally just met has an obligation to pay for you because of childcare and pregnancy is ridiculous. And who's supporting mothers when they're not working to raise the baby? Usually her husband. Women want equality If you really did, then why vocally oppose some gendered expectations that hurt you while defending other gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:10 AM
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It's not incompatible with feminist goals as a whole as women paying for or splitting on dates is unlikely to further the cause of gender equality If one sex is expected to pay that is textbook inequality. Maybe feminists are only concerned with gender inequality when women are the ones negatively affected 🤷‍♂️ indeed, an argument could be made that it furthers inequality to expect women, who are already poorer, to pay equal or greater points for men Claudia Goldin's research indicates that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:05 AM
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I have two (female) partners I doubt that a man who is attractive enough to have a mini harem would be posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:03 AM
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Realistically how many women are "choice feminists" now? I feel like women are becoming increasingly critical of libertarian "choice feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:02 AM
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As usual, women blame it on the man by implying there is something sinister about him, ignoring the most obvious explanations as to why such a man has been alone all this time: that he's unattractive, that he suffers from social anxiety, that he lacks the necessary social skills. You undermine your own point here. It may not be a "red flag" indicating that "this man is dangerous", but it is very much a "red flag" in the sense of "this man is likely sexually undesirable". "Red flags" aren't just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:36 AM
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If you ask me on a date and then ask me to split the check This is such a cop out talking point when everyone knows full well that men are generally expected to initiate. And when your coworkers ask you to go out to lunch or dinner with them, do you expect them to pay for you? Ridiculous. Expecting the other party to pay is only reasonable if the invitation is phrased in a way that indicates as much, such as "let me treat you to __" or "let me take you out to ___".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:34 AM
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What country are you in, if you don't mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:32 AM
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Some women argue that even with lower birthrates and modern medicine greatly reducing women's greater reproductive costs, the costs remain greater. Demanding to be compensated for childrearing by someone you literally just met, and will in all likelihood not have kids with, is absurd. And who's paying the bills when they take time off work to care for the baby? Usually her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:31 AM
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Fat women are truly revolting. Not just because of their appearance, but because they overwhelmingly seem to have a chip on their shoulder. At least fat guys are better at taking a ribbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:54 AM
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Ah, so TRP is some degree of stoic dominance? Detachment and dominance are not synonyms. The only "dominant" behaviors that TRP advocates for are superficial aspects of dominance such as in the bedroom or planning dates. TRP is generally skeptical to serious commitment, interdependence, and especially marriage that would enable a man to have meaningful control over his partner's life(or vice versa). it centers around demonstrating that you need the other person less. Having the power to walk awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:50 AM
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Can you read his mind? Do you even know what his standards are? PPD women don't pull shit out of their ass challenge(impossible do not attempt)!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:40 AM
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Honestly what you're describing is the perfect textbook example of establishing boundaries without being domineering over the other person. You state what you are and aren't okay with, and if they violate those boundaries you leave. And women still have a problem with this. It's hilarious. It's almost as if they hate the idea of men having standards and will make up bullshit to criticize men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:38 AM
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I think it's ideal to discuss expectations at the beginning of the relationship to ensure compatibility and make sure both parties are on the same page 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:36 AM
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iz chewsday innit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:00 AM
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Do you know many self-described "redpill" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:11 AM
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Glad we agree I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:06 AM
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but I am curious about the mentally part. Can you expand? There are significant cognitive and behavioral differences between men and women. In terms of intelligence, interests, emotionality, etc. You are saying that men have a higher sex drive, are programed to be polyamorous but its women that cheat more? I don't know dude. The flip side is that it's much harder for men to find a willing sexual partner than women, and women more easily get bored in committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:53 AM
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The red pill is about control — by putting responsibility for success on the man’s presentation rather than the woman’s choice. It requires nothing but a change in perspective I'm objecting to the accusation that it's about "controlling women" specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:35 AM
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thats literally hyper-individualism lmao To sane people, the philosophy that people should act as family units and by interdependent with the family is not "hyper-individualism". Because the family is not the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:23 AM
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it is kind of a big deal when you run into a fragile insecure person on whom it works as intended aka makes them feel the need to prove themselves. Those people ARE fragile, that doesn't mean it's ok to exploit their fragility for personal gain. Most people are insecure to some extent. And I don't see the harm in someone seeking sexual validation from you unless you exploit that to be violent or controlling towards them. I don't get the impression that those are supposed to be fully transparent …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:16 AM
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never met a red piller who wants free housing for all Most people are not this insane. thats what i mean lol obviously this is individualism No, there are forms of interdependence other than state-mandated wealth redistribution. Namely, within the family, or even say, non-coercive forms of social control by society at large. Look at Japan during the COVID pandemic, there were generally no mask mandates but everyone wore one due to a sense of social responsibility and social pressure. That's cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:11 AM
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As I mentioned at the outset: most of the angst around on this topic boils down to whether or not one is publicly volunteering information about their preferences and how it's being said. Women complain about men's preferences independently of how and when they're voiced. For instance, men's aversion to promiscuous women is regularly criticized by feminist women on the basis that it stereotypes them, is sexist, is based on patriarchal values, etc, whatever. The criticism is frequently levelled a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:02 AM
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Because people find the descriptive theories of TRP morally objectionable on their own (and not without good reason since they tend to naturalize very negative characterizations of both men and women) Many of these same women will go out of their way to defend female hostility towards men, i.e. making excuses for popular phrases like #KillAllMen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:01 AM
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I doubt that considering how vigorously women defend their right to have aesthetic preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:51 PM
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People may go as far as to encourage individual men to be introspective about these preferences, their origin, and how essential they are. This Nobody is claiming that is the responsibility of a given, individual man to modify his existing preferences. Is just a softened version of this. If a man was encouraging women to re-evaluate their standards on height and facial aesthetics I'd bet money that he would get called an incel and be met with an outcry from women saying that they have a right to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:34 PM
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I mean, if you're doing things to benefit your partner without anything in exchange then yeah, I consider that subservience. I'm sure you would too if a woman was the one doing it, like a woman who takes cooks and cleans for her partner while still splitting the bills 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:11 PM
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but it condones things like negging I don't think negging is a big deal 🤷‍♂️, and people who think so are too fragile IMO. lying, cheating, not respecting stated boundaries, etc. Can you give specific examples of these? I can't say I've seen TRP advocate for lying or cheating except for maybe lying about your sexual history if you're inexperienced, but again, I don't see that as a big deal. Not any more than women downplaying their sexual history to men or deceiving men with makeup. edit: And wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:09 PM
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I don't think they are necessarily hyper-individualists, they emphasize the family to an extent. Being opposed to social welfare and wealth redistribution doesn't necessarily make someone an individualist IMO. Although American conservatives specifically are somewhat more individualist and have more of a "bootstrap" mentality, and are less likely to believe that children are entitled to inherit their parents wealth. Either way those ideas about gender roles and relationships can be traced back t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:58 PM
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There's plenty of advice on how to get women interesred, how to pass shit-tests, how to treat them in general, which, as you say, is aimed at producing a certain response, be it attraction or whatever else. I don't think trying to get people to like you is "controlling" them. Everyone wants others to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:24 PM
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we are missing a colloquial word for "men with exploitative conservative ideas that can be traced back to the red pill movement" They can be traced back to traditionalist conservatism more so than RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:11 PM
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Just look at the archetypical "tradwife" depicted in redpill media TRP doesn't really care about "tradwives" or marriage for that matter. You're presumably talking about the new "trad" manosphere(Andrew Tate, F&F, etc.) but I've never seen them refer to themselves as "redpill", only by their critics who like lumping all manosphere beliefs together. There are no (or very few) ex-boyfriends for the redpilled man to be compared to You say this like it's a bad thing. Why would I want to be constantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:39 PM
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Correlation =/= causation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:09 PM
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Anything that benefits the females and she isnt instantly trying to suck your dick is simping I was responding to this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:09 PM
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Women feel entitled to generosity from men and rarely show us generosity in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:59 PM
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Male subservience fuels female expectations of male subservience, and female entitlement. It's rarely give and take, men are expected to perform chivalrous gestures(google sidewalk rule), buy flowers and gifts, pay for dates, etc. What do women do for them in return? Zilch. Simping must be called out 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:56 PM
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extremely based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:55 PM
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it’s all one sided and being given to them by others without reciprocation. Relationships are overwhelmingly one-sided in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:40 PM
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a decent rentoid, rare sight to behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:30 PM
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the STEMcel epidemic is so real
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:26 PM
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also aren't you finnish? i once posted in the finland subreddit asking about the migrant issue and someone posted police statistics showing that migrants from certain backgrounds are over 10x more likely to be prosecuted for SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:25 PM
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let me rant smh reeeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:23 PM
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remember to tip your landlord, chud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:14 PM
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a conservative but not conservative type What did he mean by this? Christian Republican in the streets and turbosluts under the sheets?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:11 PM
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I don't buy into height being an issue at all Then you're delusional. There's plenty of research that proves women value height a lot in a partner. For instance, this study, analyzing data from speed dating events involving over 5000 total participants found that women's mean stated minimum preferred partner height ranged from 5'7" to 5'10" depending on their own height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:41 AM
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Which part did you get lengthened, femurs, tibia, or both? Where did you do it? Who paid for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:39 AM
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to a 5'5, lean, contacts using, healthy skin, cute looking confident twink with long curly hair 👀👀👀👀👀👀
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:38 AM
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I think most sane people do, it's the causes of the gap that are controversial. Also, the gap is especially large for married men and women, and smaller for their unmarried counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:20 AM
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"Dating apps" are real life, this is the digital age. Most people, especially young people, meet their partners online now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:22 AM
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Because they have a skewed perspective on how attractive the average man is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:47 AM
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what does politics have to do with this? does trump live in your brain rent free or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:28 AM
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why are female nurses a red flag? imo it's a green flag because it's an indicator of a caring nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:17 AM
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feel free to keep the training wheels on for the rest of your life, none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:16 AM
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you don’t think having a “men are better than women” attitude is gonna hurt your prospects of finding a woman They don't need to know what I say to autists here. and doesn’t want to only be taken care of? I would never "take care" of a woman that wasn't my mother. That's some cringe simp shit. someone like that would probably avoid people who can’t see them as equals, because they see themselves in a equal partnership. I see them as less capable but that doesn't mean I'd want an unequal relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:12 AM
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recipes are training wheels. with enough experience they become an inspiration and not a step by step guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:07 AM
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green flag. it's like having a new gf every time she changes her hair color 😂. if you get bored of her current look just ask her to change it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:06 AM
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I've seen it go both ways but like a handful of nuts, string cheese and peanut butter toast and candy = girl dinner this type of content(small "girl dinners") is frequently criticized on the basis promoting anorexia/undereating and aren't you like 30 something you're too old for tiktok smh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:57 AM
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It's not impossible but it is a high and very comfortable income in most of the US. Maybe not in places like NYC or the Bay Area.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:53 AM
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Many of the things I say here about men/women generally aren't really applicable to me because my values/priorities are very different from most men. Me personally I don't know if I'd even ever want to live with a woman. But if I did I would not be willing to contribute more than half of expenses, so I wouldn't mind doing a lot of housework. I wouldn't feel like I was being taken advantage of. And I'm probably a better cook than most girls my age since I've been doing most of the cooking since I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:50 AM
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cultural appropriation smh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:41 AM
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🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 women ☕
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:37 AM
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What did you eat today? And no this isn't about making fancy dinners these "girl dinners" are like boxed mac and cheese, chicken tenders, and chips and stuff. Why would you want to live off that garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:37 AM
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you’d probably be happier cohabiting with a man. Unironically yes, probably. you resent women for being SAHM, If they're putting 110% into being an amazing mother and do most/all of the housework then no. I still think it's a more desirable role than the breadwinner most of the time but it's not egregiously imbalanced if she's serious about it. But often times it's just an excuse for not wanting to work. And I can't say I blame them fully because I would love to be a SAHD. you resent them for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:36 AM
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Most young women around me see relationships like this. "What can he do for me", "how does he make my life better", etc. Women here say this all the time when women's standards comes up . "We're liberated so we don't need to be with men, we choose to be with men that make our lives better" or whatever. And women everywhere complain endlessly about men being broke, being cheap, not doing enough around the house, etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with this transactional mindset but don't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:32 AM
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Being a guy who can cook well, seeing zoomer girls my age post their shitty "girl dinners" on TikTok is so cringe lmao. It's like they take pride in being a bad cook to "stick it to the patriarchy" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:29 AM
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America's public enemy #1 Iran now has a new proxy in the region thanks to Saddam's overthrow lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:21 AM
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>muh 6 gorillion kurds
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:20 AM
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What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:20 AM
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I agree men are better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:16 AM
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Are you korean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:15 AM
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What do you think of Saddam Hussein and the invasion of Iraq?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:12 AM
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Amen to that brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:10 AM
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If you approach him and pursue him he's going to be all like " Well i didn't even approach you and you wanted me first." It's gonna set the tone to the entire relationship. The more you like the man the less he likes you. Many men would say the inverse is true as well. "Treat her like a your queen and she'll treat you like a servant" All my friends that have approached men have gotten shot down because that's not the way its supposed to be. Or maybe they were just ugly and/or weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:00 AM
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I think it might be illegal? Establishments aren’t supposed to discriminate by race, gender etc. It's not, there's precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:57 AM
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Many words have multiple definitions, the everyday definition is not "less correct" than the technical definition. Language changes and evolves organically. And can you even provide a "clinical definition of maturity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:56 AM
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women who don't like "male attention" usually are only getting attention from Persians and black guys your comments never fail to disappoint 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:39 AM
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If you actually read the article you would know that they had to back down from their male-exclusionary policy(at least on paper) due to a complaint to the human rights commission.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:38 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/04/st_2023.04.13_breadwinner-wives_03.png Men are the sole or primary(>60% of household income) breadwinner in half of all CHILDLESS marriages in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:30 AM
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Tears are an extremely common way for women to express and experience anger. I was talking about men. Men tend to direct anger externally, women tend to direct it internally. "Women are leeches disguised as humans" See I can make things up too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:27 AM
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Aren't you Russian or something? No offense but I think most of your comments are quite out of touch with dating culture in the west. If your sentiments are genuine and honest, well the vast majority of women here are not like you. I’d prefer to seek someone who actually does care for me and my well being Finding a needle in a haystack is not a viable strategy for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:23 AM
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I just think you're taking it too far, the conclusions you're making are too specific, with insufficient supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:22 AM
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It does make sense when you view your couple as a team and value each other’s well-being above “what do I get” mentality. The latter is literally how most western women view relationships now. "What does he bring to the table", "what does he do for me", etc. Don't blame us for playing the same game as our female counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:19 AM
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There is also a clinical definition of "pedophilia" and it's much more limited than how that word is used in everyday parlance. There is a botanical definition of "vegetable" and it's not the same as the everyday definition. Technical language used in professional contexts is different from everyday language and people don't necessarily have to accept the technical definition. And can you even provide a "clinical definition of maturity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:18 AM
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Women saying that chores should be split evenly just because both partners work 9-5 is the dumbest cop out. Spending time at work in of itself doesn't do anything for the family, the money that you get for doing that does, and men usually earn a lot more per hour. Women saying this proves they don't actually care about contributing equally, and don't appreciate their male partner's breadwinning. If say, your husband or boyfriend took 1 hour to clean the house, when you would only take 30 minutes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:12 AM
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I did say "maybe", didn't I? The person I was responding to insinuated that women are underrepresented in tech because they are being "bullied out", with no evidence, and I merely provided a possible alternative explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:35 AM
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I think if someone cries frequently they probably have some mental health issue, or allergies. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/07-08/numbers#:~:text=30%20to%2064,7%2C000%20people%20in%2037%20countries. Women on average cry once very 1-2 weeks. Women being moody is basically always seen as hostile. Bullshit, being "moody" can mean simply being sad or upset and doesn't necessarily involve hostility towards others. And I made the exception for caring for a partner, even an unemployed single mum is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:30 AM
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What's an opinion? That enjoying humor that makes people uncomfortable is considered "immature/childish"? I'm literally just going by the definition of "immature". Whose definition of "immature"? Like how some men are sensitive to getting called "immature" and "childish" lol. Stop trying to deflect from the point. You seem to think women "crying" is worse than men... being hostile and violent? Because it's less "neurotic"? You clearly have atrocious literacy skills. Think I'll call it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:22 AM
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I don’t think they need to be stigmatized for people to see this position as undesirable. What do you think "stigmatize" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:42 AM
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It's rarely considered healthy to frequently cry Most women I've talked to seem to think so. I'd bet money that you think so. and a woman who is a bit moody ever will generally get called a bitch Only if that is expressed as hostility/aggression towards others. A woman who earns no income is called lazy, especially if she doesn't have a partner she's caring for as a full time job. I can't say I've seen many people call SAHMs lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:41 AM
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If you think it's funny to make jokes that make people uncomfortable, that would be an example of an "immature" sense of humor. There is no law against being immature - you're allowed to be immature. But that's just what it's called when you don't mine making people upset because you personally find it funny. That's your normative opinion, not a fact. I think some people are overly sensitive You... seem to think women all uniformly express emotions in the same way? Did I say that? Don't put word…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:37 AM
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You’re not TRYING to hurt the other person, but you’re not mature enough to understand why you shouldn’t make people uncomfortable even if you aren’t hurting them. Just because you're uncomfortable doesn't mean I'm doing anything wrong. You can’t compare that to “feeling emotions”. It's not about how you feel, it's about excessive outward expression of those emotions. Men are JUST as prone to emotion as women Men are less prone to neuroticism(negative emotions) than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:15 AM
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However, the presence of monetary responsibility and support, just like the presence of emotional support, and many other "beta" behaviors, grants a man in any relationship more leverage. Divorce and asset division says hello!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:14 AM
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I think so? It's not super easy to tell because I grew my hair out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:36 AM
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One can have childish hobbies air childish humor and still be a mature adult capable of taking care of themselves. Plenty of women do have problems with popular male hobbies and humor because they think it's "childish". Also being financially dependent is largely considered a negative thing The only people I see stigmatizing SAHMs are hardcore feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:26 AM
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I think I have neanderthal skull genes. My cranium is oblong and extends backwards, my forehead is tiny(less than 3 fingers) and heavily sloped, my brow ridge(ridge of bone where your eyebrows are) is fairly prominent, and my jaw is very forward grown. Basically the left skull in the linked article. Is this an incel or chad phenotype?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:23 AM
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the norwood reaper does not take prisoners
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:14 AM
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when people talk about the wall Maybe when white people talk about it, sure. I'm not white and I always take racial differences into account, as evidenced by my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:46 AM
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social democracy is considered solidly left-wing in the anglosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:45 AM
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that i still have some soft conservative values Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:45 AM
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Skin ageing also affects non-white people, just not as severely. And there are other factors to "the wall" like age-related obesity and sagging facial fat that affect everyone similarly regardless of ancestry. I think black women especially are disproportionately obese, although I'm not sure how much age has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:41 AM
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retinoid products >>>>>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:39 AM
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"I'm not like the other girls teehee" Good on you though fr. I would also recommend using a retinoid skin product for everyone, it's probably the best anti-aging skincare ingredient there is. Personally I use a prescription strength gel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:36 AM
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Physical aging affects everyone, male or female, white black brown or yellow, negatively, so no, it's not just "European". It's merely worse for them, white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:34 AM
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Yes this also. Sunlight is not as intense in northern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:33 AM
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nah that's cap ageing is one of the few silver linings of being a ricecel. it's not much solace when you're less attractive to begin with but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:17 AM
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"The wall" is probably not as bad outside of white countries because white girls are more prone to UV radiation skin damage, and it's made worse by their addiction to tanning. Like, do they not realize that they'll end up looking like prunes 15-20 years down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:13 AM
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Then perhaps we need a bigger carrot? Or a different flavoured carrot that is desired by the public. Be a lot simpler to just use the stick......
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:27 AM
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Can you link this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:26 AM
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Evolutionary psychology and biology can be useful tools but I think you're looking too much into it, to the point of conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:26 AM
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Source: "I made it up" And what does that have to do with dating anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:44 PM
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Maybe women are just bad at coding lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:05 PM
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Do you have a source for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass again?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:03 PM
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Nah that genuinely seems like 85% of those guys are really shitty. Skill based matchmaking. You say that if most women are such great catches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:01 PM
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Gauging by how easily the average person woman seems to find a partner FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 11:51 AM
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It's not western countries that are contributing to overpopulation.....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:58 AM
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Something like low birth rates is a serious risk for the future of many countries, and governments should step in to try to prevent this. However, I believe the right way to do this is to reward marriage and childbirth with economic incentives, as well as reduce the cost of raising a child, rather than force women to become baby making factories. Western European countries have incredible benefits for parents, their birth rates are still in the gutter, even more so if you exclude Arab/African mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:56 AM
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I haven't "preyed on" anyone. I'm not responsible for the actions of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:43 AM
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That’s when you hash out a solution that works for both of you Sometimes there isn't one. Look at the Israel/Palestine conflict. They don’t want a partner - they want a subordinate. I think most people, irrespective of sex, would rather have their way than have to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:39 AM
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When Republicans say these words all of you start crying misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:15 AM
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How about you don't cause male neuroticism by painting us all as predators?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:07 AM
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that you will not be assisting in any way including financially Yeah, the more difficult part is making good on this threat and successfully avoiding child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:11 PM
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fitting flair tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:09 PM
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Here's an idea: how about we don't give men crippling anxiety and force them to walk on eggshells 24/7 for the sake of accommodating female neuroticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:09 PM
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The kid is my responsibility once birth happens and one does not have an option when it comes to responsibility. You can arguably be "responsible" for your child by coparenting and/or paying child support without staying with the BM. My question is which would you rather do? I prefer to use the carrot. Well, there's no reason you couldn't use both. The stick is not enough of an incentive unless it is really big. I'd say the risk of being left as a single mom with no child support is a pretty big…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:13 PM
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We have vibrators You do, yet the majority of young women in the west still participate in hookup culture. We are the ones who are making more money than men. You do? That's great, I don't want to hear another word about the "wage gap". And also, if women are all using men as personal dildos, where exactly do you come in? I said chad. I am not chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:31 AM
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What I mean by my title is, does anyone else feel like they don’t fit at all into the supposed “nature” of their gender? I get this from my dad all the time, he's definitely a little disappointed that I'm not more of a traditional man like he is. In many ways my life circumstances have forced me to assume aspects of the feminine gender role. For one, I spent most of my teens living with him and he is a very busy man who works two jobs and was often away from home, so I have been cooking for myse…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:04 AM
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The fact that “here” can’t be discerned from a post ON this post That was my tentative assumption but as I said multiple times, using "here" in this context makes no sense grammatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:59 AM
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I think it would be the opposite really, they're more likely to accept being part of chad's soft harem when they're young and as they get older the less desirable women lower their standards so they can have a real relationship and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:32 AM
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Sure, but personal, exclusive, human dildo(chad). She would probably have to share and they don't like that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:05 AM
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congratulations you are not in the category of "most PPD women" here is your star ⭐
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:36 AM
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Have smooth skin and a good hairline. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:33 AM
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I bet you were the class tattletale in elementary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:33 AM
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Why is it that when women control household spending it's a "burden" and a "chore" but when men do it it's an exercise of "power" and "authority"????? I would bet money that most PPD women would react differently to a family where a woman makes most purchasing decisions("look at the all the mental labor she has to do") vs. a family where a man does("another example of patriarchal power").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:31 AM
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they are individuals who should be free to live their lives freely as they choose; they were not put on this earth to serve you and be your breeding mare. More women need to understand that men are also individuals who should be free to lives freely as they choose; they were not put on this earth to be your ATM(betabux) or personal, exclusive, human dildo(chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:26 AM
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but the man's behavior is why she is catching feels A man could treat a woman like a literal sex toy and she can still catch feelings. The physical act of intercourse itself results in the release of bonding hormones. and men do it purposefully too It's ridiculous to claim that men showing affection is necessarily a manipulation tactic, instead of, you know, part of being human. If you hate men this much then why aren't you celibate? I very rarely see men into casual sex stating thats what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:19 AM
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when guys end up marrying those options as well Do they? What makes you so sure men prioritize stability and materialistic traits as much as women do for marriage? I have some guy friends who used to go after much hotter women, who were probably a lot more sexually adventurous, but then after failing to lock them down, they end up with a partner who is much more good girl-ish and more plain and vanilla. Or maybe they are just taking what they can get? You said it yourself, they couldn't lock dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:12 AM
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I hope you extend the same level of sympathy and understanding to men in those situations, instead of castigating them as "entitled" or "nice guys" as women often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:06 AM
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It's not his fault if you're making unreasonable inferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:02 AM
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People often see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:01 AM
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I think men do the "bait and switch" tactic If genuinely loses feelings then it's not really a "tactic", is it? Men can also often dramatically change their demeanor, previously stated preferences, personality and values Source: "I made it up"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:58 PM
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Surely you aren't entitled. Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:59 PM
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Women should practise more caution but it’s also pretty shitty for a man to do all the things I listed above I already said that some of those things you listed can be misleading. But others arguably aren't, and moreover even when guys keep things 100% casual and display minimal/no affection women can catch feelings and blame him when he doesn't reciprocate(while being supported by other women). That's some major BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:23 PM
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the woman FEELS led on so she complains he led her on I mean friendzoned guys also "feel" led on all the time, what's your point? Does that mean the woman did anything wrong? Some people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. And if a guy was only interested in sex and literally nothing else I'd bet money that you would be jumping on the female bandwagon calling him a callous fuckboy like all the women in that other post about the AITA story. So it seems like the goal is to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:15 PM
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that’s why I think unless you’re very good at separating feelings from sex (which most women aren’t) just don’t have sex unless it’s explicitly clear both of you want a relationship or are already in one. Then tell that to women, don't blame men for women catching feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:14 PM
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It wasn't clear whether you were talking about these behaviors individually or the combination of all of them. The most efficient “strictly sex” situations I’ve seen where nobody gets attached - they usually only talk occasionally to plan the next hookup and some small talk. Going on date nights and paying for romantic getaways is not typical “I only want sex” behaviour. Emotional investment in a sexual relationship exists on a spectrum. There's another post on the front page about an AITA post …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:54 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? Regardless of your intents, not stating them doesn't mean you've led the other person on. They shouldn't have made assumptions if you haven't indicated your intentions one way or another, that's entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:50 PM
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I think they are very few situations where commitment would reasonably be assumed and referring to someone as a "girlfriend" is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:49 PM
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Some of these make sense. However, long phone calls/facetimes take her on dates/trips away have long, deep conversations where he opens up about his past traumas, mental health etc. the ole “I’ve never told anyone this but…” I mean, even platonic friends do these things, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:35 PM
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There are ways a guy can mislead without explicitly stating that he is interested in a relationship, sure, which is why I said "or something to that effect". My point is that women shouldn't assume intentions for a relationship just because he hasn't stated otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:33 PM
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they act romantic and boyfriendlike with their actions and non commital with their words What's "romantic" and "boyfriendlike" to one person might just be "friendly" or "kind" or "giving" to another. And even if he does express affection I don't think that necessarily means he wants commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:29 PM
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Why would you assume that someone is interested in a committed relationship if they haven't said so, or something to that effect? Sounds like entitlement to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:28 PM
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Since men started making fun of each other's dicks Women make fun of small dicks too........
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:39 AM
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I think some lies are worse than others. Lying about your height, your sexual history, how much you make, or something like that, is trivial IMO. But if you were to, say, lie about your intentions and tell them that you want a relationship when you don't, well that's a recipe for heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:35 AM
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Thank you, that sounds reasonable, it is textbook lying. Some women take this a step further though, and claim that if he hasn't explicitly defined the relationship and stated that he's not looking for commitment, then he is "stringing her along".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:30 AM
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Any pathetic excuse of a man who says retarded shit like "Believe Women" deserves to be falsely accused of sexual assault. No exceptions. It's always fun seeing them squirm when the retardation backfires and affects them. And women who say shit like that deserve to be falsely accused of crimes as well. Frankly they need it to hopefully develop something called "empathy".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:49 PM
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You posted here. That’s not clear?! Where is "here"? This post? Then what would you mean by "posting here [in this post]"? What you said made zero sense. Normally people would say said "posted this" if you wanted to refer to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:45 PM
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You ok? Following along ok today? "The dude who posted here" isn't a very specific description. Where is "here"? This subreddit? Then which post? This post? Then which guy posting here under this post? And your description of the linked post is the other thread. I was aware of that, and I asked you where in the other thread "fuckboi is being used synonymously with 'young and broke'"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:41 PM
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The dude who posted here is a guy Who? Which dude? Sounds more like the other thread fuckboi is being used synonymously with “young and broke”. By who and where?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:34 PM
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If it's not discrimination, why are there fewer women in positions of power as not every woman? Countless possible reasons. A non-exhaustive list: motherhood, career choice, career ambition, behavior in the workplace, etc. Motherhood is for sure the issue, and some of it us a women coming out if the workforce but this only happens for about a year. .......... If you think parenthood only lasts a year, I hope to God you never have kids. So the rest is discrimination It sounds like you've already …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:26 PM
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"It's only a minority of shallow women most women aren't like that teehee #NotAllWomen" This is what you sound like right now. Curious how you feel about #NotAllMen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:09 PM
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Not sure why the dudes here act like fuckbois aren’t/wouldn’t be willing to take a girl out for a nice meal or pay for it. Dudes? In this thread and the other thread about paying for dates, it's mostly WOMEN defending the expectation of the man paying to filter out fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:01 PM
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Why would someone want a career for a reason other than money? If you like doing it without money it’s a hobby. There are plenty of careers where self-fulfillment is a significant motive, like being an astronaut, or a game development, or even teaching. If you still earn money doing it then it's still a career. If a woman who had all the money she could ever want was denied from having a career she wanted, would you consider it oppression? If you want to die on this hill and consider the jobs in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:58 PM
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If it's just a few drinks or coffee then I doubt the vast majority of men would mind paying, that would be a trivial expense to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:54 PM
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I’ve not seen that be the case when the man also fulfills the traditional husband role Women react harshly when men expect her to do all the tradcon work while he cannot or will not provide fully. If you're upset at the inequality, well, men paying for the entire bill is textbook inequality. What does he get in exchange? Also ROFL at pretending that being a SAHM is anywhere near as taxing as being a sole provider. Housework and childcare isn't really that much of a burden if you're not doing any…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:51 PM
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"well women want stuff to be to an unnecessarily high standard, while the dude doesn't care so really it's on her to clean the toilet" This is an important point though. People have different standards for cleanliness and women's tends to be higher. Both standards are value judgements and there is no "correct" one. So what makes you think women's standards should take priority over men's and workloads should be based on women's standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:49 PM
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No one denies the existence of the pay gap, the debate is over the causes. And Goldin primarily attributes it to motherhood, not discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:47 PM
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What's the contradiction? Just because the average income for unmarried men and women is similar doesn't mean unmarried women can't select higher earning unmarried men for marriage. It's just an average. You think all of these people will get married soon? You think their incomes can't change? Give me a break. This is a great example of why girls are underrepresented in STEM lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:45 PM
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I never claimed in my post that most women were parasitic, and I never claimed exactly how common it was for women to expect men to pay for dinner dates. My post wasn't about characterizing female behavior, it was about how one specific talking point doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:39 PM
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they usually just want to come straight to my place. I have a hard time believing that many women are like this after college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:27 PM
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But I gotta challenge this: And I highly doubt the women here who say things "if you don't like it then don't date them" have the same attitude towards men who expect their wives and girlfriends to do the lion's share of housework and childcare. This is not the same thing at all. If a woman chooses to refuse to date a man who won’t buy expensive dinners, that’s a filter on a guy on date one or two. The guy will know very very quickly that they’re not compatible and that he won’t want to date her…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:26 PM
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"You have implied it" You asked because you strawmanned me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:19 PM
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In Barbie Land, and in real life as well, there are reasons for careers other than money..... I would bet money that you would consider it oppressive if a woman who had all the money she could ever want was barred from a career. If feminists didn't have double standards they would have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:10 PM
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Some dependents are owed care for various reasons, such as children (you created them). And arguably elderly parents as well (if they were good to you and raised you well, you ought to return the favor). There is generally no convincing reason that an unrelated woman you are dating would be owed care from you. It's like the distinction between a bird's own offspring and a parasitic cuckoo chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:05 PM
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They're sticking to the gender roles, why would they complain about having a provider? Women pick and choose when they support traditional gender roles only when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:56 AM
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Sounds to me like you want to take advantage of the partner that earns more(usually the man).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:54 AM
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Ok, then you should have said that instead of putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:40 AM
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when comparing childless, unmarried, men and women. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:39 AM
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By your logic parasitism doesn't exist unless it involves theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:38 AM
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There is a pay gap overall, yes. Although the pay gap is significantly smaller, or virtually nonexistent, when comparing childless, unmarried, men and women. This implies female selection of higher earning men for marriage and not merely chance. The issue is when the woman pays more This is incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:31 AM
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Parasitism is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:26 AM
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Nope. All I said that the prevalence of women earning similar or more income than their husbands is greatly exaggerated. Even the user I responded to didn't mention wives doing all of the housework, she mentioned wives doing "more than half". You were the one introduce that to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:25 AM
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Plenty of "normal" young women on tiktok talk about expecting men to pay for dinner dates. Finally, I'm saying this AS A RED PILL OG Right, you're a "red pill OG" and you seem to have forgotten one of the most important TRP idioms: "alpha fucks beta bucks".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:21 AM
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Did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:19 AM
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by your own belief you are devaluing the woman you have casual sex with, by your own principles. One can argue that she is choosing to "devalue" herself by having casual sex. It takes two to tango. And liking someone is not mutually exclusive with doing things that may result in them being less desirable to men in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:18 AM
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Young women are more likely to be in school than young men. And generally speaking, postsecondary programs dominated by women have significantly worse career prospects compared to those dominated by men. Attending postsecondary education shouldn't always be considered as a productive venture, there are many programs that have limited relevance in the job market(english, psychology, etc). Many people attend college for the partying/fun/hookups, and/or extend their postsecondary education because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:04 AM
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If it was, men wouldn't treat N-counts like they made a woman filthy. Otherwise they're saying "I like women so much that I want to PERMENANTLY RUIN AS MANY AS POSSIBLE". What makes you think they're seeking out casual sex with many women because they want to "ruin" women and not because they, you know, like sex? Why jump to malice?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:58 AM
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You're shifting the goalposts from earning and household work to just household work. Partnered men significantly outearn their female counterparts, it shouldn't be surprising that women do more around the house. No, it's not "valid" to draw broad conclusions about millions or billions of men and women based on your interactions with a select few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:36 AM
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I am talking about women on Reddit, especially women on this subreddit. A tiny subset of all women, and I am familiar with most of the female users here. You are talking about men as a whole, of which there are over 100 million in the US alone. You're comparing apples and oranges. And statistics contradict your claim. Young men are more likely to be employed and they outearn young women. Older men even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:30 AM
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They aren't actually expecting men to pay for dinner dates to select for commitment-oriented men, that's just an excuse. They're doing this because they're leeches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:26 AM
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At the same time, as a man, you don't have to take a woman out to expensive restaurants. I agree, going for drinks seems like a better idea and paying for her is more doable. But the problem is that too many women are parasitic and feel entitled to dinner dates. But either way I wouldn't have a woman pay for me on our date. This isn't about paying for you, this is about paying for herself. I've seen many posts about adult men, who act like children. Ok, what's your point? How many men are like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:07 AM
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It's the last bit women often leave relationships because they bring in half the income I think the prevalence of this is grossly exaggerated. Husbands significantly outearn wives overall, even in childless marriages(1, 2).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:03 AM
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Or are you asking specifically in the context of a relationship? Yes, what do you give to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:55 AM
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Men here routinely say they don’t care about a woman’s career, interests, or morals as long as she’s hot. Can you provide examples of men saying this? I've only seen some guys here say that career women making a lot of money isn't a big draw, especially if it comes at the cost of other things like age, agreeableness, etc. That doesn't mean they would date or marry a bum who can't support herself. Most men here definitely don't seem keen on being a sole provider. Women's morality is probably the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:36 AM
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I have at times asked/offered to pay It's the polite thing to do and it's a bad look if you straight up say that you expect them to pay. That doesn't mean they won't be upset if he takes them up on the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:09 AM
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Plenty of women, including on this very subreddit, complain about men not being good enough in some way. I doubt you have the same energy towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:02 AM
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so yeah, I can understand you not relating to the joy of giving. What do these women give? Or do they just take endlessly, like parasites?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:51 AM
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If you don’t want to be the provider man, what does it matter if that was the woman’s expectation because it’s not something you can fulfill I hope you have the same attitude towards Reddit women who complain about men expecting their partners to do most or all of the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:49 AM
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You don't need to be a leech to filter out men seeking casual sex, you can just make them wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:47 AM
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What kind of date do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:46 AM
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Oh no, you won't get another date with a ::checks notes:: ... Shallow, selfish, and conceited woman? This talking point is literally just #NotAllWomen lmao. The point OP is making is that many if not most women are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:45 AM
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Bro is just pulling numbers out of his ass lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:33 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/duplicates/14pwm5g/aita_for_being_honest_about_my_wifes_appearance/ This guy was pressed by his wife on what he thinks about her stretch marks, he gave an honest answer that was couched as much as possible. Reddit w*men are still tearing a new one lol. So let's be clear, by your logic he did nothing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:46 AM
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Where's the coercion? What do you mean by "manipulation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:44 AM
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What makes it exploitative?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:01 AM
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its perfectly possible to have wholesome casual relationships or just neutral casual relationships What makes "spinning plates" uniquely problematic then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:02 AM
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and you're not looking to date seriously Can you read? Besides, STD testing is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:00 PM
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It doesn’t necessarily mean they are happy with those women, Do you have evidence of this? I’m not sure how a study on divorce risk would prove that women aren’t expected to provide service in a relationship? If they aren't being divorced for not doing it, then how is it an expectation? Women are also generally expected to put their own goals, hobbies, lifestyles, and desires on the back burner when a man comes into the picture and take a supporting role in his life instead. Marriage, and especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:51 PM
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Okay grandpa, it's time for bed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:21 AM
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Well for starters I am a zoomer lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:08 AM
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what “wxmen” need to bring to the table is looks Most ugly men are more than willing to be with ugly women. Ugly women have plenty of options. and service (which is also implicitly expected) Research by Harvard sociologist Alexandra Killewald found that women's proportion of household labor is not significantly correlated with divorce risk. they don’t care about women’s careers I care, and I think most men care to an extent since wealthier men tend to marry wealthier women. education Nope. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:01 AM
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Yes, and men have penises too. What other obvious facts do you want to point out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 06:45 AM
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Depends on the makeup type. I think I'm fairly observant and can identify most types of makeup apart from foundation/concealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:06 AM
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TRP "looksmaxxing" advice is just retarded normie shit like "lift" and "dress better". In reality face and height are law, although being lean can improve your facial aesthetics. Looksmaxxing is firmly in the domain of the pill that shall not be named.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:04 AM
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I think its often the case that in female-dominated environments, men tend to have an easier time attracting women simply due to a relative scarcity of competition. Like colleges are majority female now, especially outside of nerdy majors like math or physics or CS. That's what getting laid is easier for guys in college. If you don’t mind kids this could be an option for you. This sentence really came out wrong.......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:01 AM
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chad only as always
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:58 AM
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people should stop saying "asian" when they're really talking about chinese international students lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:58 AM
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Daily reminder for moids that you only notice cosmetic procedures when they're badly done or overdone. Foids are not spending tens of thousands of dollars to make themselves ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:54 AM
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Our appearance is not purely determined by genetics, and the vast majority of people aren't blackpilled to the point of consciously selecting for desirable genes in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:49 AM
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Maybe I'm biased because I've had plastic surgery done, but IMO it's not deceptive like makeup is, and I don't see an equivalence between the two. To me whether something is "natural" or "artificial" is irrelevant, the important part is whether the change in appearance is superficial or not. Plastic surgery procedures are often permanent, or if not permanent(botox, implants, lip fillers, etc) then at least it lasts for a while before needing to be reapplied. It's not superficial like makeup is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:46 AM
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Most people need scalp hair to be attractive, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:33 AM
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Funny, I think it's the opposite. Women are far more interested in reading fiction than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:25 AM
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They may not be unrecognizable but there is a lot of research to indicate that even regular makeup makes women significantly more attractive to men. Concealer/foundation creates the impression of perfect skin, contour can make your face look leaner. Eye shadow conceals bags and lines, and for Asian women eyeliner can hide their monolids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:24 AM
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Beards are neither artificial or superficial, facial hair is a natural part of the male body just like scalp hair is for both sexes. It isn't comparable to makeup. Growing a beard is not any more deceptive than not shaving yourself bald to expose your skull shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:21 AM
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Way to avoid the point. Women know that makeup improves their appearance by a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:19 AM
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I think it was interesting seeing the huge disparity in how the tributes were treated then vs 75 years later. And the capitol residents looked normal, not garish, which is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:57 PM
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I think its because of the female protagonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:52 PM
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What did you think of the prequel?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:47 PM
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Das rite!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:40 PM
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most people here live in the west and talk about western gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:39 PM
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wtf that's insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:39 PM
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Do people think it's gay/effeminate for a guy to like the Hunger Games? I've heard it said before and the fandom seems to be female-dominated. I personally quite enjoyed the series and the prequel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:38 PM
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I don't think genuine upset is mutually exclusive with seeking to garner sympathy with tears. but you should definitely take a step back from the situation to figure out if you should have done something or said something differently. I am always right and women are always wrong 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:37 PM
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anything to bring more women in the bedroom 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:27 PM
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I think one important thing men need to be aware of is how women weaponize their tears. Women's tears are very effective in triggering a sympathy response, especially in men. Women know this and will use them in arguments to make their partners feel bad, back down, and apologize, even if she was in the wrong. Stand your ground. Don't let her manipulate you, like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. If you reward it they will keep doing it, and you will have no peace in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:19 PM
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As per the CDC NISVS cited by another user here, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:01 PM
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Men aren't conditioned to avoid violence against women In the west they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:01 PM
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I don't like that you are paranoid of us and act like being called pretty is the end of the world lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:21 PM
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If you think being complimented is scary and threatening then you need to be medicated for everyone's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:53 PM
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And the 12 month data still indicates that there was a 2.4% prevalence of sexual violence by an intimate partner for women and 1.6% for men? That's only 50% greater, whereas the lifetime figures you're citing are more than twice as high for women than men. Are we reading the same thing? The document I linked defines sexual violence as: I am talking about the most severe form of the various behaviors they characterize as "sexual violence", rape/MTP, which are the only ones of those behaviors you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:51 PM
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Did you even read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:46 PM
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Source? Even if that were true, that doesn't mean it's common. Death for pregnant women, and anyone who isn't old really, is incredibly uncommon in western countries to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:43 PM
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If the big guy inflicts injuries beyond a certain point, it doesn’t matter that the small guy started it. Even in self defence there’s limitations. So long as he does not continue using force after his assailant is either incapacitated or backs off, then he would generally be in the clear. That is the primary limitation of self defense in Anglo common law countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:39 PM
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It's possible that there is evidence of single women being happier, but this hack Dolan is not it, and he is the commonly cited source by these "girlboss" types. I doubt it though, the trend of significant numbers of older women remaining unmarried and childless is fairly recent. They are pioneers in a sense, and we can only guess how they will turn out. I think the manosphere is similarly rash in confidently declaring that these women will be miserable. Let's wait and see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:49 PM
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But that same article that you posted (3rd link) shows that men are the primary ones who inflict actual injury towards their partner. Per that paper(Whitaker et al) the odds ratio was 1.3 which is not a huge disparity. Men do take it a step further. (Whether from capability or desire - idk, that’s it’s own debate) A lot of the figures from the second link suggest that women are experiencing SV at about 2x the rate that men are It depends on the study, some are broader and include non-criminal se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:35 PM
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When we point out that men are most likely to be victims of violent crime, many women just deflect and say “yes, and other men are the perpetrators” This is the case for most crime, yes. Not IPV and sexual assaults(emphasis on the latter). The majority of sexual assaults against men are perpetrated by women, and if you were to exclude homosexual and incarcerated men I think it would be virtually all. In other words, if you're an average heterosexual, non-institutionalized man(the vast majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:30 PM
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And you know this......how? I see this talking point get endlessly parroted by feminists but they never cite any supporting evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:26 PM
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When a small guy picks a fight with a big guy and gets his ass beat, few people would be sympathetic to him just because of the power disparity. He started it. Why should it be any different when it's a small woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:23 PM
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Without dismissing the non-physical harms that can be inflicted in relationships, I think discussing "emotional/psychological" abuse is usually fruitless because there are no widely accepted specific definitions and standards, and non-physical conflicts are highly subject to interpretation. As the other commenter pointed out, this does not contradict my point in the OP. I'm not sure if you were trying to, or if you were just adding something to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:20 PM
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The raw numbers say that men and women experience any kind of physical or psychological abuse in equal numbers, but that more women than men experience any contact sexual violence,physical violence, and/or stalking with IPV-related impact (Tables 9 and 11) with IPV-related impact meaning: I don't think it's helpful to lump all the categories together. And yes, disparities are greater with lifetime data, but smaller with 12-month data(whether the respondent has experienced something within the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:12 PM
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"Golden retriever boy" will never not sound like a dogwhistle for a tall, blond guy. Hitler would be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:05 PM
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Well I don't live in Saudi Arabia or India or whatever, and this post isn't about what goes in those countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:26 AM
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My comment was about sexual violence, not physical violence. But yes, I think your assessment of female-perpetrated domestic violence sounds plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:25 AM
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I acknowledge that the majority of domestic homicides are perpetrated by men, but they are incredibly uncommon and represent a tiny sliver of all intimate partner violence. Many if not most people will experience intimate partner violence in their lifetime but very few will be murdered by one, especially in western countries. Focusing on this particular subset that is far from representative of men or women as a whole is dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:07 AM
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To add, I am frankly surprised that female perpetrated sexual aggression is as common as it is, since it is incredibly easy for women to find willing sexual partners. My best guess is that this can be attributed to women being unaccustomed to sexual rejection, which breeds a sense of entitlement. Women and girls are also arguably not conditioned and taught to accept sexual rejection in the same way, to the same extent, that men and boys are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:04 AM
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Spoiler alert: bisexual men can be denied sexual and romantic intimacy by women as well. And often they are, on the basis of their sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:35 AM
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i previously brought up eye area once in a conversation with you what are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:54 AM
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there are so many fish in this sea youll have a pool to look into unless you're chad virtually all of those fish live somewhere else, are taken, or aren't interested in you. most men have limited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:49 AM
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Do you tell every single man you're involved with about your sexual history? Without them asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:38 AM
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Why don't you just not tell women you're bi? I don't think it's a big deal unless you're getting married or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:36 AM
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I think women denying men sexual and romantic intimacy due to failure to adhere to masculine norms is a far stronger enforcement mechanism than other men name calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:34 AM
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You are an honorary male what I said doesn't apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:10 AM
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Means and medians indicate what our options are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:10 AM
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i wish. deep-set for an asian = average compared to white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:24 AM
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PPD women value anecdotal evidence only when it suits their agenda. When a woman reports having negative experiences with men, her mistrust, or even outright hostility, towards men is validated and affirmed. It's used as evidence that there's something "wrong" with men and we need to "do better" in some way. When a man reports having positive experiences with women it's used as a counterargument to manosphere talking points. An individual man's experience with a select few women is portrayed as …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:12 AM
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If you were trying to hook up with a chick would you tell her that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:49 AM
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My in-closet bi guy friend just got married to his wife, and she had no idea. Hiding something like that from your WIFE seems like a bad idea......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:47 AM
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Why are mustaches without beards not in style anymore? Saddam's mustache looked fly as hell(rest in power king).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:34 AM
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Are you open with women about sexual orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:31 AM
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If I accept this argument, it is just one aspect of the masculine gender role. Your conclusion is quite overstated based upon your evidence and argument. It isn't. Every time the topic of masculine gender roles gets brought up there's always some feminist bitch yapping about how it's other men enforcing them. That's what I was referring to. I don't need to address every single aspect of masculinity to refute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:28 AM
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Do you think there's anything wrong with men not wanting to date bi girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:26 AM
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There is potentially some truth to this. Research on female arousal indicates that self-identified "lesbian" women also respond to male stimuli. However, the inverse is also true, where self-identified "straight" women respond to female stimuli. This is tentative evidence for female sexuality being a lot more fluid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:24 AM
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She used David Bowie as an example for her claim that "bisexual men are hot", can you read? As if some manosphere e-celebrity could compare to the likes of David Bowie. And she has no idea what Tate's sex is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:22 AM
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Talking about the lives of individual celebrities is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:21 AM
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it's not actually anything positive or genuinely supportive of bi girls and them being in homosexual relations No one said it was? Who's out here claiming that most men are active allies to bi girls? Having a neutral attitude towards a group is still preferable by far than having a negative attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:20 AM
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What point? You haven't explained at all why you think it's due to misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:18 AM
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But sure, men are less homophobic. Now, I don’t like the way women stereotype gay men too, but it isn’t “homophobic” TL;DR "men bad women good teehee" 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 a mot of this ties into misogyny and for women, internalized misogyny - i truly think that many women dislike bi men because of misogynistic views on homosexuality What does misogyny have to do with this? And can you read their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:17 AM
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I don't think this makes anyone look bad, frankly. It is perfectly normal, logical and reasonable to not want to date someone who is bisexual. To you, someone who is not particularly socially progressive, sure. To many zoomers now, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:15 AM
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Paul Dolan(which both of your articles cite) is full of shit, he made a lot of mistakes in his "research". The most egregious one was with one finding that married women reported being less happy when spouse was "not present". He interpreted this to mean "not in the room during the interview", when in actuality it meant that the spouse was not present in the household, and living away. If anything that statistic undermines his point. Women's version of using science in debate is copying and past…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:10 AM
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Nice creative writing exercise bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:02 AM
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I will treat my man like a man What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:50 AM
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Look up who's initiating homophobic attacks or hate speech Hate crimes targeted towards a homosexuals are a small sliver of the intolerance they face. And what does this even have to do with the topic? I am talking about homophobia broadly. Your comments are whataboutism. Look at who votes for and against pro-gay policies, like decriminalisation and gay marriage. Generally speaking the populace does not vote on policies, elected representatives do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:35 PM
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Your own studies were showing it isn't gendered "Preferences against dating bisexual men appeared particularly strong, even among bisexual women" "These results support previous research findings that indicate more negative attitudes toward dating bisexual men than bisexual women." "suggesting that lesbians and heterosexual women may be more concerned than gay and heterosexual men about bisexual partners"" Did you even read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:32 PM
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Generally it's men who are showing disgust at male homosexuality much more blatantly and frequently Do you have a source for this? Or are you just making things up (again)? Your own studies were showing it isn't gendered "Preferences against dating bisexual men appeared particularly strong, even among bisexual women" "These results support previous research findings that indicate more negative attitudes toward dating bisexual men than bisexual women." "suggesting that lesbians and heterosexual w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:29 PM
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You said "lying by omission", not "lying by omission about (specific thing)". A reasonable person would interpret this as you referring to a failure to disclose anything a partner might find undesirable. And how and which differences between men and women relevant to this? Your comment is laughable, as if saying "men and women are different" can be used to justify any gendered double standard. What about a bisexual woman who does not disclose her orientation to men she dates? If she a rapist? If…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:26 PM
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How is it not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:20 PM
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Lying by omission is like sexual assault or coercion. Not telling sexual partners about your sexual orientation, or anything else, is not lying. And if lying about yourself to sexual partners was assault then every woman who has downplayed their sexual history is a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:15 PM
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Actually, none of it is saying where these norms come from Where else could aversion to male homosexuality come from? that non-bisexual people aren't as likely to date bisexuals as the other way around I think it's funny how women always try to downplay the gendered aspect of things when it makes them look bad. Hetero/bi women are FAR more averse to dating bisexual men than vice versa. Even if you seriously want to hide your orientation from "serious" dates I said the opposite. It's a good idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:12 PM
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If you're averse to dating bisexual men then you are upholding the norm of male heterosexuality, part of the masculine gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:09 PM
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and you're not looking to date seriously This is the part you're missing. Date a bisexual woman maybe there’s plenty of us out there Even bisexual women are often averse to dating bisexual men unfortunately, as per the research cited.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:08 PM
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By your logic watching lesbian porn means a man has no prejudices against lesbian/bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:06 PM
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just be a rock star bro
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:05 PM
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Why is it that every time research comes out making women look bad someone inevitably shows up to do mental gymnastics to defend them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:05 PM
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If the guys here were realistic about threats to long term monogymy instead of fantansing about a threesome they would worry as much about bisexual women as they would male friends. Most young people, especially young women, would consider this rhetoric(characterization of bisexual women as promiscuous and prone to infidelity) to be biphobic/homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:04 PM
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There are plenty of women that aren't interested in befriending men for a number of reasons. By your logic do they all hate/dislike men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:36 PM
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Can you read their minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:34 PM
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That’s why sugaring and escort services are the most common kind of interaction of that nature instead of actual dating or marriage. You realize that it's very common for people to have casual sex without paying, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:30 PM
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The IDF does and the Shin Bet(Israel's internal security service) does as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:33 PM
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Because males are. Being in military doesn’t stop males and females from having different proclivities and different desires for violence and execution of violence. How would you know this. If you didn’t know, it’s mostly males doing violence. Up until very recently women were largely excluded from military service.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:32 PM
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Women are 1/3 of the IDF and a substantial portion of the Shin Bet(internal security).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:31 PM
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she said "all", can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:29 PM
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women are conscripted into Israeli military it’s likely males on both sides causing all of the violence and damage 🤏🧠
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:21 PM
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I never disputed that it's higher than vice versa but it's still incredibly rare and unlikely to happen. You're more likely to die in a car accident by orders of magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:07 AM
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very high rate Put down the crack pipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:23 AM
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If you're the one claiming it the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:01 AM
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lol at "legit church" The only difference between a "cult" and a "religion" is the speaker's attitude towards the movement. If I started a religious movement claiming to be god in human form and threatened people with eternal punishment if they didn't worship me, I'd bet money you would call that a cult. That's exactly how many atheists feel about your "legit churches".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:01 PM
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"That’s a cult tactic bro. Anyone on a real church will tell you that."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:39 PM
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The only difference between a "cult" and a "religion" is the speaker's attitude towards the movement. If you're referring to Tate I wasn't even talking about him, I was responding to some post here about RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:29 PM
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"anything i don't like is a cult" the mind of a lib is truly fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:16 PM
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Men kill women more than women kill men. You initially claimed that "Men kill women more than women commit violent crime." Don't shift the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:13 PM
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its easier with the strength behind it It's easy for either party. You don't need to be strong to severely maim or kill someone with a blade. That's why hominins started using them so much millions of years ago. NTM, even if a woman owns a gun Source? And are we talking about a gun she PERSONALLY owns and maintains primary control over or a gun in the household? Here's a TLDR from the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence: https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS#:~:text=1%20in%204%20women%20and%201%…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:11 PM
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you should speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:32 PM
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the quality of women has skyocketed nice cope lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:31 PM
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how did u react
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:30 PM
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fat woman who doesnt work there comes up to us and says "you know you're only supposed to have one" I don't think she practiced what she preached.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:29 PM
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how are you failing physics then if you're this smart
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:28 PM
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apes together strong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:27 PM
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frfr hear hear it's like men's lives don't matter. i lean towards palestine overall but it's still unfortunate that people are being killed, civilians and soldiers. although in both israel and gaza the lines are quite blurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:25 PM
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The belief that women are essentially children in adult bodies that are ruled by their emotions, whereas men are mature and logical. This is why men are the leaders in the relationships - because women cannot lead themselves. based Strong aversion to government programs, especially those that allegedly incentivize women to divorce men and break up the family unit based It’s pretty much impossible for a woman to be a “good woman” if she’s not religious or has slept with more than 5 men cringe Bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:17 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:14 PM
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You say " Women turn down certain guys in the past then double back because they cant fuck the guys they used to fuck" But men would do the same thing. If a man was poor and could only date average women, and then became rich and started to date supermodels you would think that was fine. Whats wrong with women being selective based on their options? I don't think there's anything wrong with women being selective. I think there's something wrong with women leeching off of us, or trying to. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:13 PM
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So why do men begrudge women for doing the same? Chad doesn't commit because he has better options and they end up hating all men lol. I don't believe that women's SMV declines with age You're delusional if you don't think men find younger women more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:12 PM
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Their main objective is to get off. I really think they’re better off having sex with a sex worker rather than trying to get pity sex hoes cost money, pity sex is free
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:08 AM
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Men can kill women easily. The same can be said in the inverse, all it takes is a kitchen knife. Men kill women more than women commit violent crime. Source? If a man is getting agitated and is using his stature What do you mean by these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:59 AM
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>just run pity game bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:37 PM
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just because a man's paying doesn't mean you have to fuck him. women take advantage of male generosity without fucking them all the time. prostitution is an opportunity to make money, like any other opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:01 PM
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I don't care because fathers being overprotective of their daughters doesn't reflect badly on men as a whole, any more than vice versa. People can be afraid of dumb things. Look at conservatives being scared that the trannies and gays are going to molest and convert their kids. There's a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:59 AM
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that's a stretch yes it still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:49 AM
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Dads are overprotective. I don't care. In many cultures mothers are overprotective of their sons like that, does that reflect badly on the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:48 AM
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opportunities are a privilege. if some job opportunities were reserved for men you would call that a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:46 AM
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she was arguing a comment blaming men for something and social tropes that portray male sexuality as predatory. that's a W in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:52 AM
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fucking gypsies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:53 AM
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You can't avoid them in professional or educational contexts You absolutely could if you gained enough institutional power/influence to start excluding us. Also there are more forms of misandry. Such as policies by universities and employers that favor women in STEM, male-only conscription(which still exists in several progressive European countries), harsher criminal sentences against men for comparable crimes, erasure of male DV and sexual assault victims(which you demonstrated), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:49 AM
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the girls on that podcast used to be pretty hot, mostly college girls. then they started having more higher profile OF producers/influencers with too much makeup and garish cosmetic procedures
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:32 AM
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i agree, they all belong on my dinner table
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:30 AM
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bro needs to spend some time on an aim trainer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:44 AM
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"female privilege isn't real teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:43 AM
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was this in response to a rape story?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:42 AM
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happy for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:17 AM
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im already in an online bachelors program from some mediocre public university lol. not that it will matter a few years into my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:17 AM
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i’m a “ten separate products for my nighttime skincare routine” girlie. one of those products better be a retinoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:15 AM
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most inkwells here are pretty mild 🙄 this is like me blaming most women here for the shit that comes out of gridrexx or BVE's mouths
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:14 AM
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me seeing "facials": oh she must be really into skincare me reading the rest of the sentence: 😐 anyways stop posting coomer bait here 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:06 AM
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nah you can go to a prestigious school without a crazy workload, depending on major. how do you think all the rich white kids at USC have so much time to party lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:03 AM
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it's possible that it was photoshopped but it was from some guys post on finnish 4chan and not her social media or anything like that, so idk. it may be lighting but she sure is yellow for the background shes against lmao white girls love tanning i'm not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:01 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:52 AM
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i think it's mainly the lightning. her boobs are the same shade as her face lol. tanning/makeup might also play a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:51 AM
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In order for it to be misandry, they would have to be things that women did. In what world? Feminists say that women can perpetrate misogyny all the time, why should misandry be regarded any differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:48 AM
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You don't live in countries like that. Misogyny may be severe in the global south but in developed western countries it isn't. In western countries women enjoy all kinds of institutional advantages in professional, educational, and legal contexts that men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:43 AM
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What happens when women want to avoid men in professional or educational contexts? One party has got to go, who do you think it'll be? And why is it that when men abuse or assault women it's attributed to "misogyny", but when women do the same to men at comparable rates(1, 2) it's never attributed to "misandry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:41 AM
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rare based take from a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:40 AM
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Fathers greet prom dates at the door with shotgun in hand This is a dumb overblown stereotype, if it ever does happen it's limited to conservative America. Using a gun to threaten people is literally a crime. That’s the message every single one of women’s fathers, grandfathers, brothers, and uncles gave women. A lot of dads feel uncomfortable with even the idea of their daughters having 100% consensual sex, dads are overprotective. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:39 AM
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i love you too <3
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:28 AM
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now that i think of it i don't know any chinese people with wavy hair either except my mom and maybe my dad(???). it's not super wavy it's like gentle waves, mine is medium length you can easily tell from the look and feel of the back and sides. in reality i am 5'11" but i wear boots and lifts normally so i tell people I'm 6'1" and frankly I'm starting to believe it myself. delusionmaxxing is real. yeah northern chinese and south koreans are the tallest east asians and comparable to europeans. w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:25 AM
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im in an online cs bachelors program living with my dad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:23 AM
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yes, northwestern chinese to be specific. not a lot of us around these parts. nothing wrong with using "asian" to refer to east/southeast asians specifically, pajeets can cope. it's the opposite in the uk where they use "asian" to refer to ppl like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:12 AM
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🧔🏻‍♂️ 🍆 🍑👨🏾‍🦱
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:11 AM
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like all east asians damn i guess my asian card has been revoked 😔 i didn't realize that most asians had really straight hair until a few weeks ago. mine is wavy for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:09 AM
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did the hair naturally get darker with age. i heard it's common for blond people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:06 AM
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u/Ok_Bear976 bro u go to UofT? i heard people say the workload is pure ropefuel, is that true? my parents wanted me to go there or waterloo and i was like "hell no".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:05 AM
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what's your hair texture like. bone straight or wavy? if it's straight you won't be able to look like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:59 AM
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most people just say "dirty blonde" do u have a photo of ur old hair 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:58 AM
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imo the wrinkled skirt and slightly pudgy arms make it believable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:56 AM
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cringe sobercel
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:56 AM
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alcoholic 100/10 and based
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:55 AM
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you sound like one lol why is it to hard imagine that most women can enjoy attention from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:54 AM
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👨🏾‍🦱🍑🧂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:52 AM
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there is little that can be done to make bottom-of-the-barrel men ignore their deeply ingrained reproductive drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:49 AM
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unless she is fat and ugly 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:47 AM
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start drinking it helps me sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:44 AM
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best flirty emojis to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:44 AM
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5head/10
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:41 AM
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how can u tell
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:41 AM
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unfortunately most women are not mentally ill radfems like you lol. they like attention from men they find attractive and sometimes even attention from men they don't, depending on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:40 AM
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i think most non fat white girls are hot tbh also if you're an incel you should count lucky to land a "mid" girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:39 AM
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i thought u were a childless cat lady tf personally i try to keep my mom from meeting or interacting with my dad's new partner. easier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:37 AM
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some random photo from ylilauta(finnish 4chan)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:35 AM
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but she has narrow af hips could just be the angle. jfl bro is unironically stacy-only
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:34 AM
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🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:33 AM
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no mindset will grow your leg bones or improve your face bones. no mindset will cure him of his mental disabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:27 AM
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i think he meant "blackpill"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:27 AM
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do you still keep in touch with him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:25 AM
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yeah i agree but maybe it's just the hair on one side being swept back. most foids have too big of a forehead for my taste but it's less noticeable if they don't pull their hair back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:21 AM
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she probably mogs you, volcel if you wouldn't. This lady can get on top of me naked and I wouldn’t get a boner. i doubt this has ever happened to you, how would you know how you'd react?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:19 AM
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over for standardcels
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:16 AM
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go to germany lol it's cheap and legal there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:15 AM
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wallahi this is the only acceptable way for women to dress in public <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:12 AM
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i <3 basic white girls
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:11 AM
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why don't you smash your looksmatch first then we'll talk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:10 AM
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the vast majority of chicks dress like this at least sometimes lmao, especially when they're going out. bro is trying to hunt for unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:09 AM
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its from ylilauta(finnish 4chan)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:08 AM
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me being a moid i was too distracted by the booba to notice much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:07 AM
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yeah, i can empathize with women being frustrated by endless sexual/romantic interest from their male "friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:06 AM
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not enough fat rolls for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:06 AM
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no woman is "wifey material", marriage is a scam for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:05 AM
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Her skirt is supposed to be short and hug her body, and yet it has flaps all over the place. Wrinkly. maybe it's just the style, or her posture Top doesn't show off the boobs as well as it could, they look too separated. imo it would look weird if they were pressed together, this is more natural looking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:04 AM
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really? these days it's pretty normal for girls to dress like this. and personally i don't mind sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:02 AM
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fr many of the ethnicels thought that white guys can't be truecels because they can just SEAmaxx also im looking at the old data and half of the respondents didn't consider themselves incels. interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:01 AM
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why do you think this one isn't flattering. to me it doesn't make her look fat or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:59 AM
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idk what you mean but i meant like "friends friends", if you're just acquaintances/hang out in the same social groups then it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:57 AM
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🍈🍈 it doesn't strike me as particularly trampy, like these days it's normal for girls dress like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:55 AM
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"ew my male 'friends' are disgusting they all want to fuck me 🤬" "women i befriend never view me as a sexual being 😔" in general it's not good for either sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:53 AM
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https://i.ylilauta.org/42/69/4269051ad11348a7.jpg rate her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:51 AM
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i remember posting several demographic surveys on braincels back in the day, something like half of the users there were non-white. pretty brutal racepill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:50 AM
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braincels was so funny lmao i miss it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:40 AM
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based. the sun is death for your skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:40 AM
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you forgot retinoids. they're by far the most effective anti-aging skincare product. use it consistently and avoid the sun, and you'll still have smooth skin into your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:39 AM
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I think womens' obsession with tanning really screws them over as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:38 AM
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why didn't you take her up on that offer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 10:36 PM
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have you ever had a SB who became willing to date you without an allowance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:46 PM
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bro no offense her voice is so weird wtf do most of y'all talk like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:32 AM
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your possessions are not part of you lmao By your logic escorts are attracted to their clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:26 AM
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This adds to my point not yours Do you not understand what "average" means? That means around half of women have a HIGHER stated minimum height preference. And that's just the minimum, a guy who just barely meets that will still be way less desirable than a guy who significantly exceeds that. https://youtube.com/shorts/VDC5i67CNrk?si=-LepKBnxif6BHOYd How often are you shirtless. The youthful look only works on some guys, most guys are better off banking on rational masculinity I never said men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:18 AM
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don't try and play hero if you're not either jacked or packing heat lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:05 AM
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probably going through soy withdrawal or something
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:04 AM
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Like what if your husband sucked his pal a few times, is that cheating? wtf why would that be cheating? thats just a platonic thing bros do for each other. What if they fued each other, is that cheating? if they said "no homo" and wore socks, again, it's purely platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:48 AM
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Once you hit average height, this becomes false King of manlets copium lmao. A 5'9" guy will always get heightmogged by a 6'+ guy and women notice. one speed dating study found that women on average state a minimum preferred height of 5'7" to 5'10" depending on her own height. What does this even mean It's over for uneducatedcels Most people recognise this. Not basic ass moids who think it's about being as masculine as possible. This is objectively false. Women like Men with muscle. They don't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:41 AM
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any woman will be more attracted to the software dev. to his money not to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:24 AM
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have you not tried minoxidil/finasteride?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:20 AM
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telling men to rely on money to attract women is leading them down the miserable path of betabuxxing. women will PAY for chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:18 AM
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It has been said that if a woman wants to tease a man, she can wear clothes that reveal her curves and skin This is literally the norm for young women now. Come summer like every other chick is wearing a cropped/backless top and booty shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:16 AM
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the vast majority of east asian guys do not look like kpop stars lmao. and i think people exaggerate how mainstream kpop is. and the fanbase is mostly teenage girls, that's playing with fire right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:06 AM
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black guys have it far better than asian and indian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:56 AM
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I think incels understand female attraction and the female gaze far better than most men, especially when it comes to younger women. Like incels widely recognize that: - height is king - skin is the vizier - a youthful looking face can still be attractive - lean/skinny guys are usually preferred over really muscular guys - money generally doesn't increase sexual attraction it only makes them see you as an ATM Whereas basic dudes think making themselves more desirable essentially boils down to "g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:54 AM
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volcel if you wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:34 AM
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bro can't even get one bitch and he's already bragging about how he's gonna get two. put down the crack pipe nigga.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:28 AM
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yeah thanks captain obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:25 AM
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big eyes are always ideal by asian standards unfortunately i only like white chicks (veteran difficulty)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:15 AM
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yeah but then he has to live in peru lmao. looksmax your way to a tall white girl and your son can be a castizo chadriguez in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:13 AM
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if you like asian chicks i got bad news for you, they have zero interest in black guys. even the ones that were born and raised here and are outwardly progressive. it's joever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:10 AM
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are you white looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:07 AM
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my mom always hyped up mine, i didn't really understand it until i got older and noticed how many other asians have funny looking eyes. prolly sounds weird to white people but my parents are like this too so im genuinely not used to that look. actually they used to be asymmetrical, but i got pink eye when i was 16 and the eye that was a lil chinky looking(i forgot which one) changed afterwards and had a prominent eye crease. one of the best things that ever happened to me lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:03 AM
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no y'all are basically like white people to me. many latinos are literally white and even the mestizo ones look whiter than other racial minorities. why the fuck are we the "white-adjacent" ones and not you it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:59 AM
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east or southeast asian male the "cel" part comes from the fact that women here don't like us very much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:57 AM
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ew foid 🤢 do you have chinky eyes, like narrow with no eyelid crease?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:56 AM
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According to the Yahoo article you linked most recently, in almost every state I checked(the most populous + most expensive ones) with rough calculations, sharing an average rent 2bd with a roommate would be around 30% or less of annual income on minimum wage. With the exception of California where it was around 40%. Washington: 6000(half of 2bd annual rent)/28000(annual min wage salary) Florida: 6000/17000 Tennessee: 4500/15000 New York State: 6000/24000 California: 9000/24000 Texas: 5000/15000…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:53 AM
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if they don't mind me eating meat then nah, but i do eat way more than most people, most of my diet is meat. vegan chicks tend to be skinny/fit which i like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:36 AM
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30 years from now your son will be a KHHV manlet and end up posting on whatever incel forums exist then, hating you and blaming you for throwing away your height genes by marrying a foidlet. Don't do it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:34 AM
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i missed out on high school and college because i dropped out at 15 and am doing an online bachelors. but i don't regret it for the most part, because of all the free time i have and had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:32 AM
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are there any other ricecels here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:31 AM
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It takes 3-4 people working full time at minimum wage to be able to afford to rent a 2 bedroom in most states (as per several of the sources I linked). Which one? As many people here on PPD will tell you, the partner option is not an easy solution. Depends on if you're a man or a woman tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 05:25 AM
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Studio, roommates, partner, or parents. Also for someone making minimum wage, the 30% rule they're using is overly conservative. 30% is supposed to be a general rule of thumb, if you're earnings are literally at the bottom of the ladder then there's nothing wrong with spending more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:59 AM
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Source for all of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:06 AM
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why should an able bodied, single person working fulltime be a tax burden? Because they're paying far less in taxes than they're costing. Even without cash welfare or food stamps, they still cost the government and society in other ways. Most government spending isn't on those things. that’s essentially throwing a subsidy to their employer. No, it's realizing that you can only take so much from someone making 20-30k a year. Even with a flat percentage based income tax(which is a bad idea IMO) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:05 AM
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if you work full time, you should be able to support your own ass and pay some taxes. Nah, if they're not making much it would be like trying to squeeze blood from a stone. Unless you have a poll tax, some citizens are going to be net tax payers and some are going to net tax burdens. It is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:53 AM
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Nobody is entitled to comfort but you're against making others comfortable because you would be less comfortable? But you aren't entitled to that? Never said I was, I'm not the one arguing for others to provide me with a comfortable life. I'm arguing against high minimum wage policies that indirectly FORCE me to pay more for goods and services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:16 AM
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single parents should be getting child support from their exes. and frankly if you can't afford to raise a child you shouldn't have kept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:15 AM
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In 2023, a full-time worker needs to earn an hourly wage of $28.58 on average to afford a modest, two-bedroom rental home in the U.S. why the fuck would one person need to live in a two bedroom home by themselves. or even a one bedroom for that matter, studio apartments and living with roommates exists, you're not going to die doing it. that's how most college students live. living alone is frankly an anomaly, most people in the past and even today live with family or a partner. you could probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:13 AM
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i was talking about your first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:05 AM
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"Enough to pay for essential needs without government assistance" is a fair benchmark, sure. Where I live(Ontario, Canada) though minimum wage is 16.55, and I think it's above $10 where most Americans live, so people earning minimum wage wouldn't be eligible for much social welfare. I do actually dislike how social welfare is implemented because of the severe clawbacks, which discourages recipients from working and earning more. the negative income tax friedman proposed is a better idea IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:03 AM
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I was trying to do low carb but I eventually gave up Why? It is too much effort to weigh ingredients. You don't need to weigh ingredients for low carb, if anything calorie counting is less important. and even if you aren't doing low carb it's better to eat a lot of vegetables instead of frozen processed foods because at least they are less calorically dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:00 AM
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profit margins for grocery stores and restaurants are incredibly low. especially restaurants, i think most restaurants that are opened end up closing in a few years because of how competitive it is. blaming "the rich" is not the answer to everything, chapocel. for the most part we don't live in a cartoonish fantasy world where companies charge whatever they feel like, and can absorb unlimited costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:57 AM
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maybe it's just the foids idk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:56 AM
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eating a carb heavy diet like you are is the worst way to lose fat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:55 AM
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their comfort comes at the expense of mine in the form of higher prices, dingus
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:54 AM
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this takes the cake for goyslop diet lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:45 AM
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大盘鸡
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:44 AM
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I find it weird how western people hug so much, like even just friends hug all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:43 AM
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Sure. that's fair, but the minimum wage where I live(Ontario, Canada) has outstripped inflation by far. The minimum wage from '94 adjusted for inflation would be $12 an hour today but in reality it's $16.55. I hate how expensive eating out is because of that now. And these leftists arguing for a $20+ minimum wage are smoking crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:42 AM
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I'm against policies that make life more expensive for the majority, and the idea that you're entitled to a comfortable standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:37 AM
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fakecel if you don't do 10 000 cold approaches a day
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:26 AM
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I swear to god "living wage" is the most retarded buzzword ever. People making minimum wage in developed, western, countries are not starving to death or dying from exposure so they have enough to live. When leftoids say "living wage" they're just referring to some arbitrary standard of living that they think everyone should be entitled to. I've seen people argue that $25 an hour is the "living wage" in big cities because that's how much you need to rent your own place, as if living with roommat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:23 AM
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how have you tried to get with chicks? and have you actually failed every single time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:14 AM
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send chicks bait and switch videos with gay black men twerking, its like a cheat code frfr
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:11 AM
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Most women's height standards go way beyond "he just has to be taller than me"......
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:07 AM
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are you paying child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:05 AM
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u/FunEducation1434 have you even tried pursuing women at all, whether through dating apps or in person? lazycel is fakecel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:03 AM
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Make good money, but see none of it. Wait, are you paying child support? While you're the one taking care of them most of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:23 PM
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For men, height is mild preference. For women, it's a strong preference or a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:07 PM
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for example, the military straight up have classes imploring new boots to not rush into marriage Privates on their way to marry the first stripper they meet to get out the barracks: This wouldn't be as big of a problem if the military didn't provide better housing to married guys lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:05 PM
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They could even be forced to initiate. Oh, the travesty!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:03 PM
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based and homopilled
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:01 PM
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You have a point but the women and their white knights here are guilty of this far more often. "Well I know a _____ guy who slayed" "Yeah but my boyfriend isn't _____" "Go outside and look around statistics don't matter!" Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:41 PM
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only men who are struggling would turn to AI gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:25 PM
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More likely that those men wanted a real girlfriend but kept getting rejected because they were too short or ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:20 PM
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Well are those for the same aspect(height, eye area, hair, etc.) or just different guys talking about different aspects? Because if not they would only conflict in their assessments of what women value the most, not what they prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:03 PM
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is being "beta-widowed" a thing 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:01 AM
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Funny, considering that we all live in a world where the majority of men who end up getting married, fucking and having children are NOT tall men. Women in most of the world don't have much sexual freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:12 AM
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They basically just didn’t want to lose out on having a live in maid who paid half the rent. Sorry to hear that. Most husbands significantly outearn their wives even in childless marriages. I have never had to ask my wife to do her fair share around the house. Good for you. Lesbian marriages are still far more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual or gay male marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:25 AM
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Those ova are not individual human organisms. An individual human organism comes into existence at fertilization. A human fetus or embryo are individual human organisms, and the living offspring of its mother. As dozens of neutral biologists explained to the Supreme Court during Dobbs, this is a scientific fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:44 AM
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They're her offspring, therefore her children in the sense of familial relations. You're an adult but you're still your parents' child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:28 AM
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If men are not filing nearly as often, then it’s reasonable to conclude that a higher percentage of them are okay with how things are going. That may be one reason. Another possible reason being that men have more to lose from divorce, mainly access to their kids and money. I’ve been married twice before, plus one additional long term relationship, and all three were men. All three were Pikachu shocked when I told them I was leaving, despite the fact that I had communicated with all of them ad n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:27 AM
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It might be a good way to get the ball rolling if men could support other men similarly. They do. I do. Women don't care, most of them are cruel by nature towards men they don't find attractive. Talking to a brick wall would be more productive than trying to get women to stop mocking manlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:49 PM
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She's one of the most hateful and toxic users here, she deserves it and much worse frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:36 PM
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Also, lame as it sounds, “short king” reaching the public lexicon This is mostly manlets coping or other guys trying to boost them up. Women have almost no empathy or sympathy for any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:34 PM
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Most women who have abortions don't feel guilty or sad about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:02 PM
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All research done on this topic indicates that women are less interested in sex generally, and casual sex specifically, than men are. The vast majority of men and women here would probably agree with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:00 PM
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Most women would sleep with an average guy who actually shows her a good time and makes her feel special and sexy. Lots of average men would rather bitch and complain than learn to do the above. The average to above average men shut the fuck up and just date women. Then your original point is moot, in reality it's not easy to get laid as an average guy just by doing those things because she has to be interested in you first. That's mostly based on appearance and women are pretty selective in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:37 PM
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You don’t usually file for divorce if you think you’re the problem. Virtually no one thinks that they're the problem in marital conflicts, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:33 PM
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Not for women who have abortions apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:32 PM
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I was talking about the consequences for the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:29 PM
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Obviously it’s not sexual harassment to approach and saying that undermines all of the real victims who don’t get taken seriously because of men like you. If your approach is so intense that you're trying to make her feel "special" and "sexy", as you said, then it would almost be universally labelled as creepy (if she doesn't find you attractive). Most approaches aren't that intense. If you think hitting on someone with a compliment falls under that label, well those are dime a dozen. Women get …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:18 PM
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Sexual interest is always valuable if it comes from people you also find attractive. And even if doesn't, it can be valuable if it can be leveraged into money or something else of value. You see this in the form of women making good money through stripping, prostitution, sometimes OF. Gold-digging. Etc. Hell, even men buying you drinks at a bar is nice, costs an arm and a leg these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:08 PM
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Most women would sleep with an average guy who actually shows her a good time and makes her feel special and sexy. To show women a "good time" she has to first agree to a date. To make a woman feel "special and sexy" she has to be interested in the first place. Women usually don't value attention from men they don't find attractive to begin with, it's usually referred to as "sexual harassment".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:48 PM
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if they're actively pursuing abusive women then yeah it's kinda on them. i'd still feel bad for them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:45 PM
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Women too apparently.... <image> From the Netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:43 PM
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I highly doubt that ethnic groups violent enough to commit genocide would be that egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:40 PM
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Female sexuality was generally severely restricted since the start of written history until the sexual revolution. So understandably, women expressing their natural sexual/reproductive behaviors does seem like a "new" phenomenon to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:37 PM
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I don't think older single mothers are exactly swimming in options, or at least attractive options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:33 PM
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Women are way less likely to blow their brains out They are more likely to "attempt" suicide. Of course, the sincerity of those attempts is anyone's guess. commit familycide Depends on if one's unborn children are considered family. get into a screaming tantrum at a fast food worker or a health care worker I'm not so sure about this one, how would you know? Regardless, these are all extreme examples, that's like saying the Hong Kong is wealthier than Norway because there are more billionaires pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:29 PM
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Unless you’re suggesting several countries openly support and consider themselves practitioners of murder. Im pretty sure none of them do. "Murder" is usually undefined as the unjustified or unlawful killing of a human. There are situations where killing humans is considered justified and/or lawful. Clearly pro-choice countries and individuals that have adopted that view with regards to abortion. But it's a fact that abortion involves the killing of a human individual. This is not a scientific q…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:25 PM
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This is a non-argument because "consequences" are largely decided by society, and the controversy is what those "consequences" should be. Many red states have decided that requiring women gestate unwanted fetuses until birth should be a "consequence" of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:20 PM
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Average Cost of raising a child a year in US: estimated $16,005 per year. Child support should be based on the minimum cost to raise a child, not the average cost. Average child support payment in US per year (this includes women as well as men paying): $5,150 This includes parents who share parenting time, even those with 50/50 parenting time, some child support is still often ordered because one makes more than the other. For cases where one parent(usually the father) spends little/no time wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:18 PM
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there are exceptions to every rule, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:07 PM
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"I have told I'm not ready to settle down and I am dating others and got a few other FWBs, but she said she's willing to wait." If he is telling the truth here, then no one is being "strung along", he made it crystal clear what's going on and she is choosing to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:24 PM
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🧱🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:22 PM
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how old is she?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:20 PM
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um hello? cringe department?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:15 PM
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Imagine having standards of “kind, empathetic and not fat”, being the beta buxx that earns $300k per year and pays for everything for his post CC riding gf then complaining about women having it easy. where are you getting all this from? u/throwaway164_3 how much of this is true lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:14 PM
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This is how the vast majority of women who have had abortions felt about it, according to opinion polling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:07 PM
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If you honestly believe that the correct solution is to ban abortion then I just have no idea what you're even talking about. I didn't say this, I'm just pointing out that when abortion is banned or severely restricted, reproductive rights are more or less equal between men and women. It's not "impossible" as you said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:05 PM
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Most abortions these days usually involve just swallowing a pill and expelling or reabsorbing the fetal tissue. Even more invasive abortions are nothing compared to the burden of raising a child. That's why abortions are so popular for unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:04 PM
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Notice you how didn’t quote “no real argument” lol You replied with a gif....... You can’t possibly want a civil conversation with your OP and how you’re replying to everyone under it. You started this conversation off by insulting our "coomer brains"...... I’m suggesting they use the countless options that idk isn’t a cumming into a baby making cervix. There are plenty of options other than abortion for women who don't want kids, that doesn't stop people like you from advocating for abortion ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:02 PM
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single mothers with children are the biggest beneficiaries of social welfare programs by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:52 PM
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abortion depends on your perspective. for the woman it's certainly no great burden. there is massive demand to adopt newborns, they won't end up in foster care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:51 PM
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Isn’t this the infamous “ad hom” Reddit dweebs bring up 24/7 No, that would be you. You’ve done it twice now with the no real argument “you’re a GOPer” retorts. I was making a comparison between your rhetoric and social conservative rhetoric which I would bet money that you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:50 PM
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You're starting to sound more and more like hardcore social conservatives, they're quite fond of calling women sluts for having sex without wanting to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:45 PM
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Men simply don’t have the same level of responsibilities……and the only thing they do have, that little tiny sliver of financial responsibility It's not a "little tiny sliver" you clown, child support is easily a quarter or more of your take home pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:44 PM
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what makes you figure that? an abortion, or putting it up for adoption, does not derail your life and burden you for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:42 PM
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She will say she is feminist for women and non feminist for men I guess. ah, classic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:37 PM
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Then maybe women shouldn't insist on keeping a child if the father doesn't want anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:37 PM
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-1392/185346/20210729162737297_19-1392%20BRIEF%20OF%20BIOLOGISTS%20AS%20AMICI%20CURIAE%20IN%20SUPPORT%20OF%20NEITHER%20PARTY.pdf "Human" is generally understood to refer to an individual of our species, and by that definition a human fetus is a human. An neutral informative brief submitted by dozens of biologists during the Dobbs deliberation confirms as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:20 PM
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many guys have said that women are quite malleable if they're attracted to you and respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:12 PM
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Can you indicate where I have ever criticized childfree women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:11 PM
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So I guess we’re at an impasse there. No, we're not. This isn't a question of moral values and preferences, this is a [scientific fact.](So I guess we’re at an impasse there.) Because in the abortion situation there is no child that comes to be and has needs and requirements The child has needs in part because she chose to keep it, as opposed to having an abortion or giving it up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:09 PM
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zero argument as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:44 AM
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Abortion is essentially the abdication of a potential occurrence. An individual human's life begins at fertilization. One is a refusal to allow a certain situation to manifest, the other is a refusal to engage with a situation that has manifested, they are not equal at all. Both involve avoiding parental responsibilities after a child has already been conceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:44 AM
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Look man, there is no reasonably fair way to grant men the same rights as women in when it comes to responsibility for pregnancy. Frankly this has happened in states that have banned or severely restricted abortion. What's so unfair if the mother KNOWS that he won't stick around and will avoid child support, and still decides to keep it? Your whole argument boils down to "women can choose to not have a baby, so I should be able to choose to not support a baby" Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:42 AM
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wtf how old is she I'd probably consider wifing her. bro.........
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:37 AM
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"don't have sex if you don't want to have a child" starting to sound a lot like the GOP there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:37 AM
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It's the same in the sense that she can opt out as well but consciously not to, and to become a parent with an unwilling co-parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:36 AM
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Yeah I noticed that too from the trailers and clips, there were no fat or even pudgy kens lol, they were all quite fit. She simply doesn’t understand how or why i struggled with dating when young since it was so “easy” for her. If I were you I wouldn't try too hard to make her understand this, might end up undermining her attraction towards you. It is what it is. Other things are fair game though, if it doesn't paint you as undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:20 AM
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Abandoning a baby will cause it to die, so of course you can't do that. Denying a baby tangible help will cause that baby harm, so of course you can't do that. The mother can choose to abort it or give it up for adoption. If she doesn't, then at that point how is it any different than a single person adopting a child or having a child via sperm donation/surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:18 AM
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The fact women can abort is irrelevant. That’s a fundamental difference borne of biology. Abortion is of course biologically possible, but societies permitting it is not a-given.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:17 AM
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It costs a couple hundred dollars a year to freeze your sperm and there is always a chance of something happening. He would be placing a lot of trust in the storage facility. I have actually considered that personally but only because I don't really want kids, so it would just be a contingency plan on the off chance that I change my mind. And I don't feel the need to have a contingency plan for the contingency plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:50 AM
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My current gf (not really official but she wants to be). If you're calling her that sounds like you already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:43 AM
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and never signed up on online dating, went to parties, hooked up with guys. Well, as far as you know she hasn't.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:43 AM
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Vasectomies are often not reversible, they should be regarded as a permanent sterilization procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:19 AM
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In general, it seems they're better at it. How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:15 AM
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But eventually, after sex, you stop being an entertainer and start being yourself. And she leaves. This is perfectly acceptable to many guys. TRP advice is primarily catered towards short-term sexual success. You're just arguing past them if you're claiming that their strategies won't result in a lasting relationship. but as a fat old guy I shouldn't be surprised, no wonder you're so out of touch. Well there are studies, like one in particular I remember where women started with a 'perfect' look…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 09:04 AM
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Compared to men, women are more interested in relationships and less interested in casual sex. Therefore women are far less likely than men to sleep with someone without being interested in a relationship with them. When women gatekeep relationships from a man they're usually gatekeeping sex as well. In this case I was talking about men gatekeeping relationships from women they're sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:15 AM
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frat bros there's your answer. honestly frats exist to help their members get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:29 AM
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Both sexes are treated differently by the opposite sex based on their appearance. Attractive men merely getting more interest and attention from women is an example of them being treated differently. But the phenomenon men here talk about is especially undesirable for us, which is being selected primarily for your ability/willingness to provide as opposed to attraction. Few people like being treated as a human ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:57 PM
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Being the "hookup guy" doesn't mean she wouldn't want a relationship with him. Men, especially very desirable men, often gatekeep relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:54 PM
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Do you think it's a stretch to say that men want to have sex fast?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:52 PM
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Men pine after and obsess over women they claim to hate (ig/of, high body count, single moms) while neglecting/resenting/minimizing their wives and girlfriends. Men and women initiate breakups of non-marital relationships at similar rates. And women are very likely to divorce even when marrying other women, men are not the common denominator here, women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:51 PM
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the "manosphere" is a lot broader than MRAs and is also generally understood to include groups like incels, TRP, etc. frankly i think the term is just a result of lazy journalists wanting to lump in all men's groups critical of feminism together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:21 AM
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agreed tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:20 AM
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u/Sillysheila why do you flair yourself as a "non-feminist liberal". the vast majority of liberals ime are self-identified feminists or at least strongly sympathetic. why do you distance yourself from the feminism despite being on the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:01 AM
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what's your battery health?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:49 AM
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what led you to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:15 AM
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i think this is the first time i've seen a woman here acknowledge this lmao. jbwmaxxing is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:07 AM
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do you prefer larger/rounder eyes in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:54 AM
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I don't think it's the smile, he just has narrow eyes. You can see that even in the photos where he's not smiling or only has a slight smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:38 AM
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so someone just posted this tinder profile here recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/16wtl0v/23m_rate_my_profile/?share_id=0EXCljollRnWj_m_Nrpkx&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1 i want to ask the women here what they think of his eye area specifically. ignore everything else, just evaluate the eye area.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:27 AM
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According to objective, measurable standards. Beauty is a value judgement. Clearly don’t take care of their skin/hair/appearance Are you comparing them to yourself with or without makeup? Also, I noticed that your stated grievance with these men was that they were "disrespectful, rude, degrading". At no point did I say that less attractive men are kinder and more respectful people, I merely said that they are more likely to be interested in relationships. Downright terrible men can very well be …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:18 AM
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Some of the most disrespectful, rude, degrading men The Halo Effect is a proven phenomenon, where ratings of someone's behavioral traits is biased by their appearance. I have been on dates with were ugly and below my league. "Below your league" according to who? You? Your friends and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:06 AM
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https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:952/1*g1tAUcM9BTwpUMeYnfagjA.jpeg Have you had personal experiences with fuckboys you don't consider to be attractive? What did they look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:47 AM
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Most men and some women here are conservative and prefer traditional roles You sure about the "most men" part? I can't say I've seen too many men here advocate for traditional gender roles in families, and get upvoted at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:45 AM
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alpha fucks beta bucks women will pay for broke chad tee hee
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 03:43 AM
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Women settle all the time which is not right, they should get with a man they truly desire This is not mutually exclusive with settling. You can settle down with a man you genuinely like even though there are other men out there that you like more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:23 AM
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The original post made the same claim, and you had no problem with that. Just because I didn't respond to OP doesn't mean I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:22 AM
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I have no argument? You're the one cherry picking one specific individual who was accused of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:20 AM
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Everyone settles, men and women, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:08 PM
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If they're not chad chances are they will be interested in a relationship because they know they cannot sleep around like chad does. And you can easily vet by waiting to have sex if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:08 PM
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You're telling me that if you could attract an incredibly attractive multimillionaire Please learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:07 PM
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I don't care about the original post, I was responding to her comment and claim that most men just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:07 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:55 AM
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congratulations on your transition!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:43 AM
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why tf do women buy starbucks drinks for $6, like for that money I could get two big cans of good craft cider
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:18 AM
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have any of you seen the "high school english teacher that flirts with the boys" trend on tiktok. a lot of ppl are saying they've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:16 AM
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I've seen plenty of women say they think women as a whole are better looking than men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:56 AM
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20/80 is bullshit, it's nowhere near as extreme as that even when men are young. And men get far more interest from women when they're older and have more money, celibacy rates for men 30+ are far lower than for men in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:51 AM
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It's not just me though, men in general have higher paying jobs than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:08 PM
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👑 cooking is a skill, as long as you practice with a wide variety of cooking techniques you can make any dish well even if you've never made it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:07 PM
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and are very protective of the money they do not have. I'm 20 and I already own a condo. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:38 PM
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You make it sound like the only point of parenthood is to pass down your genes. If most people didn't prefer having their own biological children then the fertility industry wouldn't be anywhere as popular as it is, people would just adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:37 PM
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Because single moms are more likely to have ulterior motives, they want to find a man to help raise her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:35 PM
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Everyone settles, including women. You're telling me that if you could attract an incredibly attractive multimillionaire for marriage you wouldn't pick him over an average guy? The vast majority of women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:33 PM
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Not really, my family is actually quite well off, my dad is a SWE for his day job and at the time he did real estate as a side job. When I was older I started splitting my time living with both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:31 PM
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When and how did you learn to cook? I started when I was like 11 because I found a kids cookbook by Emeril in the library, and that piqued my interest. By the time I was 13 I started cooking most of my meals since my parents separated, and I was living with my dad who was working two jobs and not a very good cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:27 PM
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The number of people that the below average woman can attract 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:26 PM
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And if I was Henry Cavill I would only be interested in supermodels and actresses, but I'm not, am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:25 PM
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Sexual desire is not the same thing as an evaluation of someone's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:24 PM
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Makeup is probably the main reason that women think they're better-looking than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:55 PM
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If most men just want sex from women then you might as well entertain the one who at least is charming & looks good. Plenty of men want relationships, it's just that they're invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:51 PM
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when i go out with a woman i want her view on those things so that i know if i should keep going or not Women are malleable, if you mask your autism for a while and get her to like you and grow attached, you can influence her beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:30 PM
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it involves the man extracting from the woman, the one thing he deems you good for "Extracting"? Do you think women don't enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:03 PM
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im like the grandpa type that likes to talk about politics , war , state of society , about family you don't need to be a "smooth talker" to know that women are kinda vapid and not to talk about shit that bores them lmao. it never even began for autismcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:01 PM
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IDK that's purely anecdotal, women are far more likely to be widows than men widowers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:57 AM
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"male loneliness" is mostly just a euphemism for "male sexlessness".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:55 AM
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because most men aren’t that great interpersonally Source: "I pulled it out of my ass"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:56 PM
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The evidence is right there in front of you and you still hold onto your retarded beliefs. Your victim complex truly knows no bounds, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:38 PM
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The average American woman is 170 lbs, that's more than I weigh. The average woman is not small and dainty, she is a fucking landwhale.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:28 PM
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Boys are taught from childhood to "never hit a girl", what makes you so sure that a male victim would use force? If he refuses but she ignores his refusal, he may very well decide that it's pointless to protest or resist any more and just go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:25 PM
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That's different because those encounters are consensual in the ordinary sense of the word, those boys WANTED to have sex with those older women, even if they are considered legally incapable of consenting. I doubt any man would enjoy being forced to have sex with a woman they weren't interested in. Most men have SOME standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:23 PM
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It's honestly more loudly trivialized by men who clamor, "I wish that was me!" I've only ever seen this with regards to older women having sex with teenage boys, and while that is legally considered nonconsensual, it consensual in the ordinary sense of the word since those boys are willing participants. When it comes to sex that is nonconsensual in the ordinary sense of the word, as in she had sex or had some kind of sexual contact with him against his will, that's something that barely gets dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:21 PM
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"Approaching a woman for a date" is narrow a frankly a little bit "old-fashioned". If you hook up with an acquaintance, and that turns in a FWB situation or a relationship, he still has sexual/romantic experience without never having asked a woman out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:06 AM
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that means the other half the time the women are the sole/primary earner. .......... Did you even read the linked post? A further 30% of childless marriages are classified as "egalitarian", with another 20% where the wife is classified as the sole/primary earner. Pew's threshold for being the "primary" earner is earning at least 60% of the household's total income.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:04 AM
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Ok, so the same is true when the sexes are reversed right? If a man is seeing multiple women the onus isn't on him to tell them that they aren't exclusive, rather, it should be her responsibility to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:15 PM
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99% of women are obese see, i can make up numbers too!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:08 PM
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with a moderate probability of beating the shit out of https://web.archive.org/web/20200102220428/https://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm women are as likely or even more likely to be physically aggressive in relationships than men. boys are taught from a young age that it's never acceptable to hit a girl, even in self-defense. this gives women a sense of impunity, that they can attack us whenever they're angry without us hitting back, and unfortunately this is exactly what plays out a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:05 PM
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and someone always tries to own rape victims with statistics with what statistics, in what way? someone being a rape victim doesn't mean their assertions shouldn't be challenged if they're incorrect 🤷‍♂. if they're sensitive about the issue then they should just avoid conversations about rape instead of barging in with "I'm a rape victim......." and expecting their opposition to acquiesce out of sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:01 PM
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then i guess i wasn't talking about you then, was i?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:00 PM
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Source: "I made it up"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:51 PM
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women here must have olympic tier mental gymnasts arguing that a boyfriend is like family and should subsidize your living costs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:50 PM
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What triggered you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:45 PM
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have you seen his?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:15 PM
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humans are probably better adapted to eating a meat based low carb diet since that's how humans generally ate for most of their existence, prior to agriculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:15 PM
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this is what 1ncels have been saying and most women deny it up and down lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:19 PM
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are not vegans wtf, why? what they eat doesn't affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:17 PM
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Right now I’ve noticed there’s a trend of guys expecting money to be 50/50 but they are refusing to do 50/50 of the unpaid parts of the relationship I disagree, seems like most couples are splitting proportional to income which usually favors the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:22 AM
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It's honestly not hard to imagine a "I will find and kill you if you leave" If actual, credible, death threats like that are involved then it changes the equation a bit, although it would still be iffy under common law rules for self defense since the threat is not imminent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:20 AM
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i think white western women underestimate the level of attraction that asian women have towards white men, even white men that you consider mid or ugly. it's not just about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:14 AM
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even when they aren't married imo marriage is a fucking scam and women are never entitled to our money. or you can pay 100/0 in your own place tbh increasingly this is more like 50/50 or even three ways with roommates, or free with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:12 AM
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For household expenses yeah. For all of your money, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:10 AM
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for the purposes of this question, say 50% more than you do. although for you i think that's gonna be a tough comparison because of your 70 hour weeks rn which is atypical, good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:03 AM
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your metaphor sucks it would be more like some person repeatedly comes to your house to hurt you and threatening to kill you. and most would not blame you for killing that person if you felt threatened enough. If the violence was habitual and severe enough to cause injuries, and she killed him in self defense while he was hitting her or about to hit her, that is justifiable. Premeditated murder is not. In this case it's not difficult to distinguish between self-defense and retaliation. and most …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:59 AM
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I'm saying that normally, substantial income differences in couples are such that one, on their own, would not have very much money left after paying for half of all household expenses. How the hell would you know that? I literally specified in my post that in this hypothetical the higher earning guy is frugal and willing to live a lifestyle his girlfriend could afford. Even with a 50/50 split her rent and utilities would be cheaper for her than living alone. It's unlikely you'd share household …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:56 AM
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Lol, so if you're not a millionaire you "barely have any money"? That's utter horseshit. She very would could have plenty of disposable income. And you're shifting the goalposts, you initially talked about "needs". Their basic living expenses would already be paid for jointly so her "needs" are met. I would bet money that in the past you've argued something along the lines of "only things you need to survive are 'needs' so sex isn't actually a need for men blah blah blah". But suddenly when it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:44 AM
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If someone attacks you and you use hit them until they back off or are incapacitated that is textbook self defense, and I haven't seen users cheer anything other than that on pussypassdenied. If you have examples feel free to link them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:42 AM
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Go through r/pussypassdenied or something I have, and I've NEVER seen them cheer on a man hitting a woman for any reason other than self-defense where she hit him first. And the cheering is very rarely for self-defence, there is usually no need to hit that woman for his safety. What the hell is he supposed to do then? If anyone is hitting you, the best and least risky way to get them to stop is to hit them until they back off or until are incapacitated, whichever comes first. Men may be stronger…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:39 AM
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someone with barely any of their own money That's just an unfounded assumption on your part. I think it's selfish to expect someone to make more sacrifices than you do to finance your lifestyle, What? How on earth would the lower earning partner be financing the others' lifestyle with a 50/50 split? Both are paying their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:36 AM
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When have men ever cheered on a man hitting a woman for any reason other than self-defense? I've never seen men cheer on a man hitting a woman because she insulted him, or cheated on him, or something like that. Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:29 AM
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Why wouldn't you want a partner like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:27 AM
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If you are living together and splitting your household living expenses evenly, then both parties' "needs" are being met. and men are more vocal about looking out for number one "Looking out for number one"? Many men and women are that selfish Why do you think it's selfish to not share money that you earned with someone who isn't a dependent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:27 AM
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Nope. I would feel that he's not partnership material. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:23 AM
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Of course it's unfortunate but unless she's chained up in the basement or something, she can leave. I'm not saying it will be easy but it's doable. You can work and get child support and there are more resources and social assistance for abused women than virtually any other demographic. I understand that she may have concerns for her safety but that's NEVER a justification to pre-emptively kill someone. Like if someone sends you a credible death threat few people would think it's justified for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:16 AM
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I did answer the question. He asked if my point was that earning more money = greater contribution to household expenses. My answer was that this is usually the case but if they maintain separate finances and split costs 50/50 then it's obviously equal contributions, regardless of how much each party earns.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:04 AM
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Do you think earning money doesn't require a lot of effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:01 AM
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Are you well-off?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:00 AM
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So why is this man prioritising his own material purchases over me? Do you think there's anything wrong with prioritizing yourself over your partner? More and more women (probably some men too, but women are definitely very vocal about it) these days are adopting this kind of "girlboss" individualistic mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:59 AM
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Because you created this myth that women in relationships get instantly outraged if it's not exactly 50/50. I've seen plenty of women upset that their husbands or boyfriends are doing less housework than them, even if they are still doing some. Women regularly cite statistics on how many hours men and women spend on childcare and housework to try and dunk on men, if that's not "nickel and diming" then I don't know what the hell is. Your absurd claim in the OP is also disproven by the fact that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:09 AM
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I do believe that if you have the means for it having one parent at home is good for children. I disagree, unless you have A LOT of children, one parent at home is unnecessary since kids will get older and start going to school for most of the day. And by the end of elementary school they can and should start staying home alone to learn independence and responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:05 AM
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feminists when a man punches his girlfriend after she starts beating on him to get her to stop: "noooo you can't use that much force men are stronger you just want an excuse to hurt women 🤬🤬🤬🤬" feminists when a woman literally murders her abusive husband instead of just leaving: "noooo she shouldn't be charged with murder he deserved it was literally impossible for her to leave and support herself through work like everyone else does".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:00 AM
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I'm just curious why you named 70/30 specifically, that's a pretty big disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:48 AM
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In the eyes of the law, when you get married every single cent earned by both parties from that point on is jointly owned by the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:47 AM
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since no kids are involved, id prefer a more 70/30 split, or something balanced according to the percentage of our income 70/30? Does your boyfriend earn more than twice as much as you or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:46 AM
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I agree tbh, but in the eyes of the law when you're married every cent both of you earn is jointly owned by the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:45 AM
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Why do you think a 50/50 split for basic shared living expenses is "nickel and diming"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:35 AM
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obviously not, unless he's doing more housework, then possibly. but this is far less common than men outearning their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:34 AM
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when i was younger we had a few different ones. they didn't live with us they commuted when we needed them, and my parents paid them 10-15 dollars an hour cash. i imagine it's probably similar for domestic workers. they are probably willing to work for less than what you personally consider a "fair living wage" because they come from poorer countries and it's better than what they got back home, plus the exchange rate means it goes wayyyy further in their countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:18 AM
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it's not delusional to not find specific ppl that attractive wtf if a woman, by some miracle, didn't find henry cavill attractive but found a large portion of "normal" men attractive i wouldn't call that "delusional" either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:05 AM
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Usually people who marry each other are of similar educational attainment and class why would I care about either of those things. "educational attainment" is just a piece of paper. there are plenty of women(men too tbh but more women) with bachelors degrees that are working as a barista or something because their degree is not valued in the job market. and "class" is such a nebulous thing in the US because there are no hereditary hierarchal social classes. usually people just use the word to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:04 AM
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how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:52 AM
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beauty is a value judgement and men have more varied preferences than women do. i find a lot of "ordinary" women more attractive than female celebrities. having connections is more important than being attractive when it comes to becoming a celebrity IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:51 AM
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do you love him or do you love his money 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:50 AM
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I've heard first hand a woman saying she threw up in her mouth a little when her date mentioned he had skincare routine. In her words, it was the most feminine thing a man ever said to her and she was instantly repelled. Vain and shallow people tend to like similarly vain people, and on the other hand people who aren't vain are often disgusted by people (especially men) who spend their time primping and preening. Sounded like you were calling having a skincare routine vain. If it's vain then I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:48 AM
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I used to think like that too but depending on the country's immigration policies the increased demand from a cultural shift like that could drastically drive up costs for housekeeping. If a country ensures that it's easy for foreign workers to get work visas for this kind of thing then it could be feasible. And there's also housing stock to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:46 AM
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I think it's a spectrum. Most women do value earnings a lot when choosing a man for marriage and would prefer that they earn more, some prioritize this more and some less compared to other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:43 AM
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Doing different things is not the same as expecting one person to be a slave and have zero time while you enjoy your free time just because you get paid more. It's not about who gets paid more per se it's about who contributes more. If there was a significant earning disparity but they kept separate finances, and household expenses are split roughly 50/50, then it wouldn't be fair for one partner to have to do most of the housework. And that's an exaggeration, doing more housework while also wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:40 AM
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that would be reinforcing oppressive gender roles 🤬
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:31 AM
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being a female breadwinner is ✨empowering✨ kween
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:28 AM
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That was a long time ago and I've been doing much of the housework, especially cooking, since I moved in with my dad when I was 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:26 AM
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Most women have a skincare routine lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:11 AM
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Honestly, people understand the fundamentals of sex, consent, love, attraction, etc by their late teens and that's mature enough to have sexual/romantic relationships IMO. It's not that complicated, it's just spending time with and having sex with someone you like. It only becomes complicated if you move in together. Same goes for the point you brought up about a "lack of options if things go wrong", it's only relevant if they're living together. If they're just dating, or having casual sex, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:07 AM
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More like guys complaining how they get little or no interest from women whatsoever because of their face/height/autism. I don't think many men here want to be a betabucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:00 AM
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I feel like the reason there are so many female breadwinners on PPD is that they stumbled across men here characterizing women as gold diggers and got really offended since it doesn't apply to them. So they stay and argue. Whereas women who do want our money (arguably the majority tbh) are more likely to just skulk away because they know it's an accurate description of them, there's no point in arguing. Like women here talk about how they earn two, three, five times as much as their husbands and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:56 AM
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If you live in a detached single family home, outdoors work is a frequent chore. Even worse if you live somewhere with cold and snowy winters like the northern US or Canada since you have to regularly clear snow in the winter. Ask me how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:46 AM
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No, you can hire a household servant that does everything, childcare, cooking, cleaning, etc. Lots of Latina women do that kind of the thing in the US. When I was younger we had servants like that too, I think they were generally paid 10-15 an hour and they were good at everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:44 AM
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That's just you, clearly most women don't feel that way since most are still getting married and choosing men that earn more than them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:42 AM
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How about all you nickel and dime-er mindsets go do you Are women not "nickel and diming" when they track how much each partner does around the house Also baloney you cant afford to ever do a thing or party in college. For engineering majors it's not about money it's about time. They have so many difficult and time-consuming math, science, and engineering courses. Lots of jobs in many industries start at the bottom like the 'night shift'. Which ones? Security? Male-dominated. Firefighting? Male-…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:39 AM
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But I actually like my husband and value his contributions - why would I want him doing chores instead of spending time with me? "If you are willing to subsidize your partner there's nothing wrong with that" But we want to spend our free time together Couples don't necessarily have to spend all of their free time together. Sometimes they have different interests and that's fine. We have an egalitarian relationship If you actually do make FIVE TIMES as much as he does, then this relationship isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:34 AM
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​ <image> The share of marriages where the wife is the primary or sole breadwinner has actually decreased from 2012, although the share of egalitarian marriages has increased. At any rate husbands still outearn their wives in the majority of marriages, even in childless marriages as I said earlier. It makes no sense to focus on the trends of small minority of marriages with a female primary/sole breadwinner. And he spoke as if he had a crystal ball and knew how things would trend in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:26 AM
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those men are retards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:17 AM
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I think you appreciate the homemaker role more because it was easily observable for you. I doubt you were keenly aware of your family's finances. The world revolves around money. Money is what provides the necessities of life, chiefly food and housing, among other things. True, a good cook can make food taste more appetizing and a good homemaker can turn a house into a beautiful, clean, and inviting home, but those are luxuries, not strictly necessities. Without a good homemaker your life may no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:15 AM
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I think it's reasonable for someone to expect their partner to do more housework if they contribute more to household finances. It's also reasonable for someone to not want to do more housework than their partner regardless of finances, in which case they're just not compatible. If you are willing to subsidize your partner there's nothing wrong with that, but no matter how you split the chores, that's frankly what it's going to be. A relationship where you are the benefactor and he is the benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:02 AM
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You don't need to hire a different person to do every chore, that's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:54 AM
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Why do the two of you have you to work 60 and 70 hour weeks, that's ridiculous. Does your flair have something to do with it......
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:51 AM
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Give me a fucking break. This is literally what women do when they complain about their male partners not doing enough around the house. They're keeping score on how much housework each of them do. Why is it only okay when women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:50 AM
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"equality only when it benefits me teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:48 AM
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are you saying women have to do house chores because they earn less? I think it's reasonable to expect your partner to do more housework if you're contributing more financially. That doesn't mean I think women are obligated to meet them, they're just not compatible. I also never said that I think relationships must be 50/50, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with a relationship where one party is contributing more than the other. But in these cases that should at the very least be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:47 AM
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If you're not married and keep separate finances, while contributing equally to shared household expenses, that is equal contribution. But it's not like that for most couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:42 AM
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It's often not really an ebb and flow though, it's a consistent pattern of the man being the benefactor and the woman being the beneficiary, all things considered...... Even in childless married couples, where there's no burden of raising a tiny human to consider, men are still the sole or primary(60%+ of household income) earner half the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15npmps/pew_analysis_husbands_are_the_sole_or_primary/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:40 AM
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says who Says the grocery receipt, the mortgage, the utility bill, the car payment, etc......
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:37 AM
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SWE wasn't the only example I gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:37 AM
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I'm confused, what do you disagree with and what's the point of your story?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:36 AM
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If you really do own a home and earn six figures then you are better off than the VAST majority of single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:34 AM
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It stopped trending upwards ten years ago. It hasn't merely slowed, it's reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:33 AM
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"the news is that women are outearning their husbands at an ever increasing rate with no signs of it slowing down." A decline over ten whole years is not some "dip".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:33 AM
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What possible reason is there for her to want him if that's his attitude...that moving in with him means her doing more housework? Fuck that noise. That's expecting her life to get a bit more broken and burdensome to make his more fixed and easy. As if women don't benefit from being with higher-earning men, give me a fucking break. If you get married, in the eyes of the law every single penny he earns is jointly owned by the both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:30 AM
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You somehow think female SWEs who have families don’t exist? SWE is male dominated. If you prioritized weekly hangouts, work would still get done if you were actually smart. You’re describing the stupid engineering majors who actually had to scrape by and are definitely not in the 150k+ careers. Did you even know any engineering majors? The math, science, and applied science courseload for them is hell even if you're smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:28 AM
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I think it's fair to expect that your partner will contribute roughly as much as you do to the household, and choose accordingly. I also think it's fair for prospective partners to turn down a relationship/marriage if they cannot feasibly meet your expectations. Some people just aren't compatible. This isn't to say that it MUST be 50/50, there's nothing necessarily wrong with one partner to be contributing significantly more than the other if they are willing to. But it should be recognized that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:02 AM
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How much do you earn an hour at these jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:40 PM
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This is also a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:37 PM
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Where are you getting that from? According to Pew the share of wives that are the sole or primary breadwinner in marriages has DECREASED in 2022 from 2012: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ And regardless, husbands still significantly outearn their wives in the majority of marriages, even in childless marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:36 PM
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Of course some women work more stressful jobs than some men, but looking at the bigger picture, well-paying male dominated jobs often require a lot of sacrifices outside just the hours you put in. And you're missing the main point, which is that employment in of itself is not a contribution to your household, the paycheque you bring home is. That's what matters. Side note, a lot of people have a romanticized view of what being a software dev is like based on social media content from devs who ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:33 PM
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Words can have different meanings to different people and groups. And women who are employed(especially married mothers) still work less than men, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:23 PM
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I've read that female law school graduates are less likely than their male peers to actually go into practicing law. Honestly in this day and age it's hard to survive on one person's salary Most families do survive with a mother that's working part time or not at all. Not everywhere is as expensive as San Francisco and NYC and not everyone has the same lifestyle expectations that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:14 PM
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And if you compare daily time usage of married full-time working mothers to married full-time working fathers you find that while she works one hour less per day she certainly makes that hour up in the categories of household work, child care, and travel, and household shopping, and spends less time on leisure. According to Table A-7A you just linked, for married couples with kids where both spouses work "full-time", women report spending an average of 1.15 more hours per day than men on caregiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
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You're just repeating yourself like a broken clock. Yes, "full-time" can be defined, but it's not that meaningful because within that definition includes a broad range of hours worked, and there are different definitions, the IRS and ACA define it as at least 30 hours a week, for the BLS it's 35 hours. One Pew study someone linked didn't even define the minimum threshold for being considered to work "full-time" for the respondents. A married father working "full-time" can still be working 5-10 h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:12 PM
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Again, nurses, did not have to go through the long and grueling education/training process that doctors did. They are FAR less knowledgeable, they should be subservient to doctors. And I'm pretty sure women are outpacing men in overall medical school admissions these days anyways, there are plenty of female doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:05 PM
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News flash: the vast majority of women are not lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:04 PM
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jobs like nurses and support roles are seen as subservient in comparison to a doctor, for example Nurses don't have to go to medical school for four years and then work 60+ hour weeks as a resident for shit pay for 3+ more years, often accumulating tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:14 PM
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Yeah this happens all the time it's called a betabux lmao. Why are you acting like this news to most men here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:10 PM
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Why you think full time working moms work less,when the overwhelming majority of full time workers work that amount Because they have kids to raise and a husband they can lean on...... At any rate the onus is on YOU to demonstrate how many hours the average married mom working "full-time" works, that is the relevant subset of "full-time workers".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:04 PM
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Not everyone lives in San Francisco and NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:56 PM
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artificially lowered by part time and stay at home moms "Artificially"? The fact that many married mothers with children work part time or not at all is highly relevant. Women here characterize most/all marriages with children as the mother 40 hours a week and coming home to do most housework and childcare which is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:53 PM
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A statistically insignificant amount of working people work 60 hours It was just an example, point is that the commitment of a "full-time job" varies. I literally posted an article who details the percentages of full time workers by hours arrangement ffs Ok? That still doesn't tell us how much a specific subset of full time workers(married mothers with children) work every week. That's what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:51 PM
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Have you already forgotten about the once-in-a-century pandemic that was raging at the time? The survey that chart refers to is the GSS, an annual survey. More recent data from the 2022 GSS shows that for women 18-29, only 12% report not having sex in the past year: https://ifstudies.org/blog/is-the-sex-recession-over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:38 PM
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Do what you want, I don't care. I'm just saying that I would much rather be doing housework and raising my kids than the soulless 9-5 grind. I don't think I'd even want to work if remote jobs in my field weren't available.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:34 PM
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Don't shit the goalposts. I've seen women here regularly claim that most married mothers are working literally 9-5, 5 days a week, like most other adults. "Full-time" is too broad to be meaningful, it can mean anywhere from 35 hours according to the BLS definition you gave to 60+ hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 07:31 PM
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Why are you assuming that only men would fudge the numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:59 PM
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"So,its ok lump all women in(and get a 21 hours average) but when you do for men is bad and wrong?" You said that "men worked only 33 hours" but that's ALL men regardless of marital and parental status, retard. That's what I was objecting to. Instead of bumbling around what is the minimum to be considered full time work, read what i posted about the working hour arrangements of full time workers. Few people full time Workers work less than 40 hours. That includes mothers. Just because the averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:56 PM
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what's your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:47 PM
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men aren't working 40 either I'm not talking about men and women in general, I'm talking about married mothers and fathers. Married fathers work an average of 39 hours a week: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/03/SDT-2013-03-Modern-Parenthood-43.png This is almost DOUBLE that of married mothers. Also, those are averages So? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:45 PM
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Most full time workers work 44 hours per week,so the "we don't know how much full time is" is bullshit. What's the MINIMUM work week required to be considered full time? That doesn't address this important question. Again, the IRS sets it at 30 hours a week, and the ACA does as well for that matter. So,its ok lump all women in(and get a 21 hours average) but when you do for men is bad and wrong? Are you illiterate? It's not for "all women" it's for married women with children. Read the chart aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:39 PM
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Who the hell would consider 21 hours a week "full-time"? That's half the standard work week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:37 PM
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we can draw more general conclusions about a large swath of people. Your conclusion that the husbands of these mothers who work full time must work the same amount as all married fathers is unsupported
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:21 PM
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The only "bad use of statistics" here is by you Second of all, even in your own source, men work 33 hours of paid work per week,not 40+ hours. That's ALL men, including men who don't have kids and/or are unmarried. In this post I'm talking about married people with kids specifically So, according to this: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/ 46% of couples have both times working full time and 6% of househol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:15 PM
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You were comparing them to ALL married fathers working full time, I meant comparing these full-time working women to their actual husbands, a subset of that group. For all we know they could be working more than the average married father, there's no reason to assume that this subset works the same amount as other married fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:07 PM
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25% of women are now celibate, it's not a stretch at all. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:26 PM
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all i can say as a woman is that if i had the choice id rather support a family financially and be a dad than doing the mom shit i've been doing most of the cooking for my family and cared for my brother since I was 13 doing "mom shit" isn't that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:38 AM
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There’s such a disparity between the overall labor of unemployed mothers and unemployed fathers I have to believe they’re essentially comparing housewives to deadbeat or disabled husbands. The vast majority of married fathers work full time, whereas far fewer married mothers do. A more apt comparison would be comparing the time use of these mothers that work full time with that of their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:37 AM
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Motherhood is far from a "24/7" job. The government watches your kids from ages 5-17, for 7 hours a day, 9 months a year, and most people send their kids to preschool even younger than that. but she has to be mom 24/7 with all that comes with it (chores, cooking, cleaning etc I'm the one who mainly cooks and cleans for my family, including my little brother. It's far from a 24/7 job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:38 AM
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If you don't want them to then don't, it's your choice lol. If your life is as great as you say then I envy you! So if I were to let the average man into my life, how would it all change? If you are a highly desirable woman then you don't have to settle for "the average man", your options are far better. Due to the way males are socialised he will likely have little knowledge of how to keep a home clean, let alone his clothes. Males are also not taught that cooking is a basic life skill. He woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:01 AM
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Guys may not care that much about how much their partner earns but social status definitely matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:53 AM
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It depends on how whether they focus on listening to what women say vs observing what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:30 AM
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I think parents, and society generally, downplays how much women care about appearance in sexual/romantic partners. They probably care more than men do if we're being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:02 AM
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Can you read his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:30 AM
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cringe, that's just d&d but online 🤓. play a real man's game like escape from tarkov 🗿.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:53 AM
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There's a difference between wanting someone who can pull their weight not be dependent versus wanting someone who earns more than you so you can leech off of them. And honestly most guys are okay with dating and marrying women that earn significantly less than them, so I bet he wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:52 AM
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less retarded, less neurotic, less crazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:25 AM
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those things don't really ensure their appearance develops optimally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:25 AM
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Boys being brainwashed into believing bluepill bullshit by their moms, tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:07 AM
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I would also choose to be a gay man frfr men are so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:03 AM
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Yeah but it's in the limelight so often now, you can't really avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:52 AM
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no nigga i think i will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:49 AM
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I think people usually choose their partners based on a number of considerations and attraction is a spectrum. A woman can prioritize money and providing when choosing a long-term partner without completely disregarding attraction, it's just less important. And as a result she will be less attracted to the hubby compared to past guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:47 AM
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When a woman says/does this (in 20s, sex with the hottest most fun guy, in 30s stability with someone maybe not as good looking) dudes come back with AF/BB and say she’s hit a wall. How is it any different than what you say your complete fantasy is? Women prioritize money and willingness to do housework/childcare when choosing a BB, he is prioritizing a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:44 AM
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AF/BB is when women choose a long term partner primarily based on material concerns, he's describing choosing a long term partner primarily based on a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:43 AM
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Choosing a long term partner for selfish and materialistic reasons is not the same as choosing a long term partner because they have a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:42 AM
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do you want kids? also with all your talk of hedonism i'm curious what you do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:39 AM
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Because what were we wearing? Why were we out at night? Why were we alone with him? Why didn’t we choose better? Can you provide examples of rape complainants being asked these things? Women here keep claiming its ubiquitous but I've never seen it. Even then some of these questions(not the last one) aren't necessarily accusatory, they might be intended to learn more about the situation. Context is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:37 AM
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i think she is the opposite unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:34 AM
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To add to the conversation for rape/sexual assault, I'd like that add that unlike other criminal trials, rape trials usually heavily depend on complainant (the woman making the accusation) testimony, which I think is rather weak evidence. The complainant is not an unbiased party in the proceedings. By filing a police report alleging that a specific individual attacked her, she has demonstrated an interest in having the defendant convicted of rape. Her complaint may be true, it may be false, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:30 AM
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If I accused you of sexually assaulting me, should people believe me until proven otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:19 AM
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Between 2-8% of rape accusations are false. That statistic refers to the proportion deemed false in some way by law enforcement. That doesn't mean any rape complaint not deemed false must be true. We certainly don't see 92%-98% of rape complaints result in a conviction or even an arrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:18 AM
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Please, show me numbers. What percent of rape accusations are covering up for regrettable sex? What would that percentage need to be to justify not believing a victim? It's hard to know what proportion of rape complaints are false for the same reason that most rape complaints don't result in a conviction: because it occurs in private and leaves little evidence, usually it's hard to know what really happened. For other crimes we believe the victim. When someone is the victim of theft, we don't as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:17 AM
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Multiple complaints between unrelated individuals that had no knowledge of other complaints. Neutral third party testimony that supports the complaint. It doesn't necessarily have to be directly witnessing the act, it could also things like hearing screaming, or observing that the complainant was not lucid at the time of the act, etc. R*pe and most sexual crimes are by nature private crimes that rarely happen in broad daylight in front of others. So what evidence would be good enough for you? Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:12 AM
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Just because the risk that he did it is high enough to warrant caution around him doesn't mean it's high enough to warrant labelling him a rapist, much less arresting/convicting him for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:11 AM
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Fewer women want to be married with kids. Sure about that? Women seem to bitching more and more about men not wanting to commit and have families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:05 AM
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Many women are selective to the point where the men they are pursuing have way more and better options. So yes, it can be detrimental to them if they're looking for a relationship. And unfortunately that results in a lot of misplaced anger towards men as a whole, because to them chad = men I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:04 AM
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Why are you assuming that they want a relationship? Some guys just want to get their dick wet. Nothing wrong with that 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:02 AM
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And the same goes for sex, it's deeply ingrained that a marriage is in part a sexual relationship and married couples should be regularly having sex.......
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:57 PM
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What makes it "inherently monogamous"? Tradition? A wife's sexual duty to her husband is also a traditional value. besides, marriage is a legal union not a sex union It's a legal union based on a genuine sexual/romantic relationship. That's considered an essential part of the union. If someone were to enter a marriage of convenience for citizenship/residency purposes only to get divorced shortly after achieving their goals, and the immigration authorities found out, they could face criminal pena…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:08 PM
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Sex was not explicitly part of marriage, it’s an expectation men had but it’s not one that’s always feasible due to life. If someone has sex with someone else while married they have broken their vows. Most marital vows don't explicitly mention sexual exclusivity either, what's your point? Habitual sex is primarily what makes a girlfriend or wife different from a roommate. Would you rather have no sex or have a woman starfish on the bed and be mad the whole time? I would rather not get married i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 09:02 PM
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Idk you tell me. It was a rhetorical question. It doesn't make sense to judge how common sexless marriages are by only looking at marriages that are still intact. The stats conveniently don’t bring up heterosexual divorce rates in the same period of time. 14% divorce rate among lesbians in a 10 year period (which means 86% of lesbian couples didn’t divorce in the 10 year span) doesn’t support your or OP’s argument that women are bad at marriage. 86% percent success rate for ten years of marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:55 PM
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If you expect them not to have sex with others then you should be habitually having sex with them. That's what's expected 🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:26 PM
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Most heterosexual couples have sex at least once a week. Completely sexless marriages are rare. About half of all marriages end in divorce. How many sexless marriages are hidden from these statistics because they ended in a divorce? You said women are bad at marriage but the only thing you brought up is sex. If you actually read the post you'd know that he also compared divorce rates between heterosexual, gay male, and lesbian marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:25 PM
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Most people don't "blame" women for being victimized by men either, and either way how is that relevant to egalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:20 PM
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If they do it's probably because those women are hot, good in bed, or just because they have no other options. They're dating them in spite of the behavioral red flags, not because of them. And with slutty chicks it's kinda a double-edged blade, because despite what tradcopers claim they probably are better at making guys 🥜 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:58 AM
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You're missing the point. Again, those "selfless ants" ARE working to "further their own genes".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:13 AM
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"Grow" in what way? To accomodate their partner's desires? I would bet money that you'd accuse a man of being controlling if he started dating a woman knowing what she was like and expected her to change to respect his boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:33 AM
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They both work How much do they work and how much do they earn? but every woman in my family goes above and beyond to to care of the physical, social and mental well-being of their husband and don’t even get back 50% from them. Your perspective is honestly worthless because in all likelihood it's biased by misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:30 AM
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Truly written by someone that doesn't understand shit about evolutionary biology lmao. Ant colonies are literally one huge family, the workers are all the brood of their queen. By helping their queen and mother(who they share a significant amount of genetic material with) reproduce, culminating in fertile alates, ant workers ARE "furthering their own genes".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:26 AM
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But, when it’s at the point where over 97% of murders and assault are committed by men Where are you getting this from? then I think maybe we should ask ourselves why? What does this have to do with treating people equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:16 AM
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So? Men(and women) of some racial/ethnic backgrounds commit far more crime than others, that doesn't mean you have to treat people differently just because they're a member of a given group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:53 AM
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The reason they give this girl money/labor is because they are romantically invested aka emotionally invested, while they other person has no interest. Therefore they are contributing more emotionally and mentally than the other party. They are contributing their hard-earned money and/or their limited and valuable time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:11 AM
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"As long as African-Americans commit half of all homicides we cannot have racial equality" This is what you sound like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:08 AM
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By emotional and mental contribution I mean they are more emotionally invested in the relationship than the other party. Isn’t this what ‘simps’ are essentially? No. Most men use the word "simp" to refer to someone who invests a lot of money and/or labor into a woman due to sexual/romantic interest. They may or may not be successful. Think of the stereotype of the nerd doing homework for a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:14 AM
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Of course. You're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:02 AM
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lmao women contributing more? good one. also JFL at putting "emotional" and "mental" contributions on the same level as providing for the necessities of life. clearly one is WAY more important than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:50 AM
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How exactly do these "pick mes" simp for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:41 AM
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Because "nice girls" don't finish last, all else being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:40 AM
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Demonstrating that you are a better candidate than others is a standard part of dating, at least for men. I doubt you'd blink an eye if a man said something along the lines "unlike those other guys I'm not just interested in your body".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:40 AM
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so women will always desire protection and provision And OP's point is that this is at odds with the egalitarian zeitgeist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:10 AM
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Which ones? Do you have any statistics? Nationwide in the U.S., men out earn because they typically work longer hours and take on more dangerous/undesirable jobs in addition to women leaving the workforce temporarily or entirely after starting a family. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15npmps/pew_analysis_husbands_are_the_sole_or_primary/ Men usually outearn women even in childless marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:07 AM
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Plenty of them are talking to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:06 AM
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Judgement is involved every time we select partners based on our standards and preferences, what are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:11 PM
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If women don’t like what a man is doing they simply won’t engage with men The hordes of women complaining about men says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:10 PM
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OP's statements would be accurate if they added "by progressive/feminist-leaning people". Which is damning because these are the people that are most vocal about being egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:08 PM
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And those marriages include trad marriages that just haven't had kids yet. So? That doesn't change anything I said. They're still dependent on men for economic support when they aren't raising children yet. "It's a small minority of women" literally a paragraph after acknowledging (by rounding your favor) that it's half and half lol. Even if the earnings are more equal they still aren't independent if they're married lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:53 PM
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Yes, obviously some women out-earn their husbands, but the vast majority don't. Women by and large are not "out-earning" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:42 PM
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It's 48/52 so basically half and half. In a whole half of all childless marriages men are the ones primarily or solely supporting the family, when the woman DOESN'T have the burden of childcare. That is massive. Women are the sole or primary breadwinner in only 20% of childless marriages. And there are plenty of other ways women may be dependent on men, such as if they want children, or even just to split living expenses even if their incomes are similar(although this one is more like mutual dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:36 PM
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Most people bitch about not having more money to some extent. But feminists and progressives bitch specifically about the wage gap. Which is very real, reasons aside. So I don't know where you're getting this idea that "women are outearning men".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:01 PM
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Most young single women do use OLD, but many get taken off the market really fast because they find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:18 PM
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Really? If that's the case then why are feminists and progressives still constantly bitching about the wage gap 🤔.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:12 PM
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You gotta hand it to em too, they’re really putting their money where their mouth is and the results are damning for men. Women are only selecting for men they want and choosing to be alone if they can’t get them. This is bullshit and cope lmao. Statistically most women will settle into serious relationships and marriages, sometimes with men they don't find that attractive, because they still want a man to provide. Not necessarily 100%, but even a partner that makes 30%-40% more than you can sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:08 PM
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Those would help individuals but ultimately result in chadflation on a larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:02 PM
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East and Southeast women usually do consider white men more attractive than their own men, so long as they're not fat. White men are usually taller, more facially masculine, have broader shoulders, and generally more physically robust. This is just the reality. An unremarkable white guy easily mogs most Asian guys if he knows when to put the fork down lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:39 AM
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Да. Hence passport bros. This isn't breaking news. When guys here say "women" they usually mean "women in developed, western, countries where I live"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:38 AM
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"Need" is a strong word, women can usually earn enough to pay for essentials will rarely end up starving/homeless just because they don't have a man. But they often do rely on men's earnings to enable a more comfortable lifestyle for themselves, to be able to work less or work a less demanding job, and/or to support themselves through education. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15npmps/pew_analysis_husbands_are_the_sole_or_primary/ And this is just for childless couples, so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:13 AM
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If they're actually victim-blaming then they should also stop. People can and do make dumb decisions but ultimately the fault lies with the person who victimized them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:25 PM
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No child support is to support the child. It exists to compensate the primary caregiver who spends more time and money on the child. The money goes to them, not the child. that disadvantages them How? It's also their responsibility to support the child, within their means. Someone making 48k a year can reasonably afford to pay at least 6-7k a year in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:18 PM
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Nintendo games are single-player, there generally isn't a social community for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:53 AM
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I meant to ask in absolute numbers. $250/month is an absolute pittance, most people can easily afford to pay that much. Child support should be to compensate the primary caregiver, if she's not the primary caregiver then she shouldn't be getting child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:47 AM
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Tell that to the hordes of women complaining about men on TikTok lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:43 AM
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How much does she earn a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:15 AM
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The hell kind of logic is this? If you had full custody she should be paying YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:01 AM
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Many of the so called average men involved in RP can find a regular average women to match with on a dating app but the problem is they don't keep her No, they can't easily. Most men get few matches and from there they need even more effort and luck to secure her interest and land a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:00 AM
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I think most grandparents would be happy to spend time with their grandkids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:56 AM
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Stop victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:59 AM
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https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html Which just so happens to be the age many men claim women are “hitting the wall”. For RP it usually means like 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:58 AM
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cap. neanderthal aesthetic is peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:57 AM
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paying $1000 a month child support when you have 50/50 custody is exactly the problem lmao. why should you be paying her to raise them when you spend the same amount of time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:22 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "poverty". If your children have adequate food, a clean home, clean clothes, get healthcare, and go to school, then absolutely nothing will happen to you lmao. It doesn't cost 100k+ per month to provide those things for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:15 AM
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Children ordinarily do not have the right to any extravagant standard of living more than the essential, so why should they in case of a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:09 AM
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I had to read an article for school where amongst both gender siblings, the sister tends to be objectively a lot better looking than her brother is. Beauty is a value judgement there is no such thing as "objectively a lot better looking"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:23 AM
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Women usually structure their lists around their partners' desires. How would you know this? And yep, the actual work of figuring out what's needed exactly What's "needed" is up to them, depending on what they want to make. Why is it that when men make financial decisions it's a form of power and privilege, but when women make financial decisions it's a burden? This isn't just for food too, it's for most day-to-day spending. let me tell you, it's more taxing on the brain and takes more actual ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:04 AM
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How many husbands do you know that micromanage their wives grocery shopping? If anything women COMPLAIN about having to decide what to buy for the family because their husbands don't really care, they call it a "mental burden". I swear it's like you live in a different dimension or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:33 PM
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If you can convince them that the women who are actively interested in them aren't really interested in them Most young men that religiously follow masculinity influencers never got much interest from women to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:42 AM
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The wealthiest women in the world acquired their wealth from marriage or inheritance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:34 AM
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Most couples combine finances to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:32 AM
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but what you've just told me is that you think self-sacrifice for the betterment of your community, your world, the downtrodden, and needy is fucking stupid. When most people don't have much free time, yeah it kinda is. They care too much about others and not enough about their own well-being. You have a goal to meet women and seek connections with them, and you're so stupidly dedicated to one avenue of selfishness (time and money) that you cannot take a hit there in order to fish in a pool whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:48 PM
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Yeah, it's called settling, most people do it. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:43 AM
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💀 why is some kind "incel/virgin" insult the go-to for you people whenever you're losing an argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:21 AM
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Yeah I've done the "google search" in the past and I haven't found any. If it's that simple to find this contradictory research then feel free to link it yourself. The burden of proof is on YOU. There is no known mechanism that would make girls play with dolls and boys, especially monkeys, want to play with human "male" toys. There's a lot we don't know about human behavior and primate behavior generally. That doesn't justify ruling out a biological explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:01 AM
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Because online dating is so good that way more men got onto online dating apps than women. Of course the rates are bad for the undesired men this way. A significant majority of men on dating apps get little to no interest, so how I don't see how it's "good". It's not just a minority of bottom-of-the-barrel men that struggle. Men are on dating apps because it's convenient and approaching women in public is becoming increasingly frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:34 AM
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If MRA's are "whiny" then feminists are the equivalent of newborn babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:28 AM
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Women are probably more "heightist" than men lmao. Who's telling women and girls that they should go for tall guys? Not men lol, they seem to inherently like tall guys a lot more 🤷‍♂️ and maybe it's reinforced by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:27 AM
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I've read two studies on primates, one with baby rhesus monkeys and one with baby vervet monkeys. Both studies conclusively found that the males preferred the "male-coded" toys and the females preferred the "female-coded" toys. Can you link any research that contradicts this finding?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:23 AM
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Volunteering is so fucking dumb for working adults. They spend enough of their time working for pay, why work for FREE in their time off? Hobby clubs/activities is such a meme. These are so uncommon because again, adults are generally busy working. Of those that do exist the most common are for sports which are either dominated by men or sex-segregated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:15 AM
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Online dating got easier Bro is living in another dimension or something. Match rates for OLD are atrocious for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:50 AM
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Any guy can get into a relationship, probably with a girl above his league if he wanted too "The empathetic sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:41 AM
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Online dating in 1999 is not the same as online dating in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:37 AM
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Men are far more likely to keep trying if they think they're failing due to insufficient effort, as opposed to losing the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:35 AM
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Do you think men are a hivemind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:33 AM
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what's a "tiny dick" to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 09:45 PM
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They have preferences the same as men. Women are far more sexually selective than men, I'm pretty sure this is a virtually universal consensus even amongst women, "men will sleep with anything", etc. They're largely socially informed the same as men's. Women cross-culturally demonstrate a preference for certain traits like provision, facial masculinity, facial symmetry, broader shoulders, etc. To think that human reproductive behavior is somehow unique in not being shaped by natural selection is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:21 PM
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and then the child would be raised by the tribe. The child would be raised by the mother, her close relatives if they were there, and possibly a putative father if there was one. Humans generally do not invest significant time and resources into children that they don't think they are closely related to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:20 PM
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If that was really the case then women would not have evolved the sexually selective behavior that they so clearly display today. Female behavior today indicates that sexual selection by women was a pivotal aspect of human reproduction for most of their evolutionary past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:17 PM
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