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Yawn. You insult because you have nothing better to say. And you'd rather mock women ("you'd just say you have a boyfriend") than accept the truth.
/r/seduction22/04/15 01:00 AM
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"Wahh, cute guys have it so much easier than I do!" Yeah, they do. Get over it. But you also have to accept that there ARE times when it's less advantageous to approaching a girl, and at the gym is one of them. You're approaching them at an incredibly vulnerable time, and the likelihood that you're going to walk away with a disappointing result is going to be higher just because of that. But, as in virtually any circumstance, super hot guys are going to have a lower bar for entry than we are. It…
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:19 AM
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I recommend this video. (Might want to find an English version of it, though. That one has an eastern European dub on top of it.) This video is seriously good stuff. I've used the techniques in it for years and women go fucking crazy over my oral skills. (And I don't mean telling ME that I'm good at oral, I mean telling their best friend that I'm good at oral.) I have Nina Hartley to thank for it.
/r/seduction18/04/15 06:03 PM
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Why would I take swimming lessons when i can just jump in the water without them? The arguments for getting a prostitute to take care of your virginity are actually quite good: It takes all the pressure off you to perform, because you know you're going to get laid anyway You can find somebody who might have experience in deflowering virgins, which means that she might know how to help you know what to do better If you fuck it up and come too early or you can't get it up or whatever, she's not go…
/r/seduction18/04/15 05:59 PM
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Why do you assume this is a shit test? Do you really think they're just trying to gauge your reaction to the question, or do you think maybe they're trying to figure out if you'd just fuck them and stop talking to them? How do you respond? Tell the truth, that you love sex and think it's awesome. It's what they say to that that'll tell you what they're really getting at, because my bet is that they will find some way to tie themselves to the idea next. And that's a good thing, because it means t…
/r/seduction19/03/15 02:55 AM
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You're simply wrong. But regardless, it doesn't matter as you really shouldn't be bothering with a rating scale anyway.
/r/seduction08/03/15 12:52 AM
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But you still have to treat an ugly woman who THINKS she's a 10 the same way you'd have to treat a legit 10. That's why it's more dependent on how hot she thinks she is than it is on how hot she actually is. We've had this argument in the seduction community for years. This is yet another reason why I advise against using a number system altogether in favor for a binary "would I fuck her or would I not" system.
/r/seduction08/03/15 12:50 AM
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Saying that a girl is a 9 or a 10 has nothing to do with what YOU think she looks like. It's how SHE treats herself and expects to be treated. So when you say that a girl is a 9, it is (or really should be, at least) a representation of her own perception of her social value.
/r/seduction07/03/15 11:05 PM
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"It's really too bad that you think so little of yourself you assume I'm only interested in you because you're Asian." And then you walk the fuck away.
/r/seduction04/03/15 02:28 AM
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Look. Either she gets your dick hard or she doesn't. If you're attracted to her, then have sex with her and don't be ashamed of it. If not, then don't. It's literally that simple.
/r/seduction01/03/15 03:39 AM
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She is really interested in going out and dating and just doing couple stuff. We have done a lot in the past month ranging from romantic ice skating to a great hike. So you've been doing this for a month. Okay. You seen her naked yet? No? Didn't think so. Kissed? I'm guessing not. She's not interested. No matter what she says, if you're a month into seeing (and I use the term "seeing" very loosely) her and she doesn't feel comfortable with you touching her, there's no way there's anything romant…
/r/seduction03/02/15 03:10 AM
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There isn't enough data to be able to make a claim either way. But luckily, it doesn't matter, because if you're interested in her you should be the one making an advance on her, regardless of whether you think she's interested or not. So if you want to find out whether she's into you, then make a move. You'll learn pretty quickly whether she's interested or not.
/r/seduction07/12/14 05:33 PM
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Simple answer is, you don't. The more complicated answer is, can you do it? Maybe, but the amount of effort required to make it happen is so monumental that you'd be a fool to try, when there are so many other women out there who haven't already put you squarely into the I-will-never-fuck-him category.
/r/seduction07/12/14 05:17 PM
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Are you telling these girls on your first date that you're interested in a relationship? Because if you are, I can almost guarantee you that you're scaring them off. Even if what you're looking for is a long-term relationship, it's still far better for you to disqualify yourself to her by making her think that you're not long-term material. Because if she starts thinking of you as potential boyfriend material, she will absolutely put the brakes on and try to slow things down because if she likes…
/r/seduction02/11/14 09:18 PM
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For instance, if I express my sexuality and accidentally escalate too fast, that will give off the impression that I'm a perv or a sexual creature. Rumors spread, damaging my chances in the long term. It's not a matter of whether I fear social rejection or seek approval from others, it's more of a matter of unfavorable logistics in the long term. This is your assumption, but it doesn't really play out that way in real life. In real life, a girl is far more likely to reject you for not advancing …
/r/seduction26/10/14 03:53 PM
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What if you're trying to game a classmate that you'll meet everyday for the next five years of school, and potentially in the same workplace in the future? Yes, by all means, let's take my generalization meant to make a guy feel better about his situation and let's apply every exception we can think of. But really, the fact is that if you're that concerned about your reputation, then it's more important to you than getting with this one girl. And it should be—if you're that worried about your re…
/r/seduction26/10/14 02:27 PM
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In the club I'm far too scared to dance with a girl because it means displaying attraction, and I feel like if I do that, I'll just get rejected. In my mind, if I put myself out there, I'll get rejected. So get rejected. Get rejected over and over and over again. Hell, TRY to get rejected. Eventually you'll learn that this is nothing to fear. If you think about it objectively, what does rejection mean? I'll tell you: Rejection means that some girl you've never met and don't know isn't interested…
/r/seduction20/10/14 04:35 AM
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Then I guess you either need to learn that sometimes, girls just don't do what we want them to do, or you need to learn that concerning yourself with minutiae like this is just going to get you thinking too much about outcomes. What do you do when a girl doesn't comply? You do whatever the hell you were going to do already. Her reaction doesn't change the way you act, because you weren't tying yourself to a particular outcome.
/r/seduction17/08/14 05:48 PM
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If it's enough that you're concerned about it, then you obviously have other concerns as well. If you're bringing up this small-time shit, it's because you're worried about something else—and that's why you need to end it, not these little not-even-shit-tests.
/r/seduction17/08/14 05:40 PM
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I also highly recommend reading The Game, probably before reading MM. It outlines the aspects of game in an easier to digest format, and once you understand it better, it becomes easier to follow Mystery Method as well.
/r/seduction12/07/14 10:05 PM
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The number scale isn't actually supposed to be about how you would rate the attractiveness of a girl, but rather how she rates herself. Most guys don't think that way, though, which is yet another reason to eliminate the rating scale altogether anyway.
/r/seduction12/07/14 09:09 PM
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They make you nervous because you're afraid of what they're going to think of you. That's the whole problem. You see them as something you have to impress. You can tell me all day that it's not true, but of course it is—if you weren't concerned about how you looked in front of them, you wouldn't get nervous because there would be nothing to get nervous about. Instead of being worried that you aren't good enough for them, start asking yourself if they're good enough for YOU.
/r/seduction10/07/14 01:58 AM
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Well, if you're really all that confident, what are you afraid of from a girl? Stop putting them on a pedestal, realize that they take massive dumps too, realize that at some point in their life there was a guy who was so fucking sick of her that he broke up with her, and maybe you'll stop thinking that they're something to be afraid of.
/r/seduction10/07/14 01:23 AM
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The appropriate response to that is: "Who said anything about a relationship?"
/r/seduction10/07/14 01:21 AM
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hot girls have hot friends. Yes, but they almost NEVER want to introduce you to them, because they don't want you paying attention to anyone besides them.
/r/seduction08/07/14 03:53 PM
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Well, I did say most of the time. This girl may simply really not be interested, which does seem to be the case based on her actions.
/r/seduction08/07/14 01:26 PM
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I get the sense that most of the time when a girl knows a guy is interested in her and she just wants to be friends, she's not actually interested at all in doing "friend" things with him. She just likes the fact that he orbits around her and gives her attention. The minute he starts to show interest in another girl, she gets jealous and possessive and catty, but not enough to make her actually want him. She just doesn't want him spending his time showing interest in someone that isn't her. Mind…
/r/seduction08/07/14 12:20 PM
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Oh, yeah, I know, that whole self-reliance thing is just such a drag.
/r/seduction05/07/14 06:10 AM
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Wow, haven't heard that joke before. I'm sorry, do you believe that people shouldn't actually try to help themselves? Do you believe that people should be spoon-fed information so they don't learn how to obtain knowledge on their own? If so, I feel sorry for you.
/r/seduction05/07/14 06:05 AM
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When I started doing pickup, I did it by reading books, and advice from this subreddit. When I had a question, I looked up the information on Google and I read the sidebar. And I don't have much patience for people who can't be bothered to do the same.
/r/seduction04/07/14 11:18 PM
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I said nothing about wanting "nothing to do with that same woman ever again." My point was that we, as seduction advicegivers, are not in the business of giving advice on how to start relationships. We are in the business of giving advice on how to seduce women. Relationships, while related to seduction in a way, are not the ultimate purpose of this subreddit. So you can bitch about "If hes in it for a relationship" all you want, but it ultimately has very little to do with the advice we give he…
/r/seduction04/07/14 10:51 PM
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Then find another app. They're literally called Frequently Asked Questions for a reason. I shouldn't have to explain something over and over because somebody was too fucking lazy to actually do some reading for himself.
/r/seduction04/07/14 10:46 PM
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I hate to sound like a dick, but: read the sidebar. That's the whole point of it.
/r/seduction04/07/14 09:18 PM
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Being good at pick up is completely different to being good at a relationship. Hmm, if only this were a pickup subreddit and not a relationship subreddit... Oh wait. It is.
/r/seduction04/07/14 04:36 PM
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From my experience, it usually takes a long time for girls to become interested in you You're doing it wrong, then.
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:23 PM
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You're allowed to have "oneitis" if she likes you too. While I agree with most of what you wrote, oneitis is never a good thing to have. Its very definition shows this: the idea that this one girl is better than all the others, or is unique in her "specialness", is a concept that we need to get out of guys' heads as much as possible. Putting a girl on a pedestal is never something you want to do, regardless of how much she likes you in return. It's fine to like a girl. But don't for a second sta…
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:22 PM
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Well, THAT is an attitude that you need to curb. You barely know this girl, and what you're dealing with right now is infatuation. Do not let yourself get caught up in the idea that she's perfect, or even that she's "the one," because the truth is that there is no such thing as "the one." As Dan Savage notes, every person is a point-six-five that we are willing to round up to "the one," because nobody is an absolutely perfect match. Also, by thinking of her like that, you're putting her on a ped…
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:12 PM
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Dude. Liking a girl isn't a problem, and liking her a lot isn't nearly the same thing as oneitis. It's perfectly okay to like a girl, even a lot, as long as you're not acting like she's the only girl in the world for you. There's nothing at all wrong with being excited because you click well with somebody.
/r/seduction25/06/14 05:43 PM
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"Oh man, are you gay?" "Why, you looking for a date?"
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:15 AM
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So the next day, I feel very depressed and worthless for taking advantage of them. I just want to point out that in no way were you taking advantage of them. Just because you like somebody doesn't mean that you're doing them some kind of disservice if you don't start a relationship with them. You're not obligated to do that. If you tell a woman "Look, I just got separated from my wife and I want to be able to enjoy being single without worrying about complications," then any sane woman is going …
/r/seduction17/06/14 02:09 AM
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Fucking reddit and its awful list numbering...
/r/seduction10/06/14 11:38 PM
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Yeah, and it has absolutely nothing to do with having enough self respect to know that you don't have to deal with people who don't respect you. Moving on to another girl isn't about "I didn't score, so forget about her." It's far more about the idea of knowing that you don't have to deal with bullshit.
/r/seduction10/06/14 11:34 PM
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It's a phenomenally bad idea to even bring up the idea of her moving or you moving. Nobody should ever move because of a potential relationship. Ever. I'm assuming by the way you talk about her that you have not ever slept with this girl. You've been "friends" for 8 years, you say, but how much of that, being honest with yourself, was a true friendship and not you wanting to get with her? You're right when you say that infatuation in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. But if you've nev…
/r/seduction10/06/14 05:35 AM
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I wouldn't say all. It's a back and forth about what play between two people entails. Well, yes, of course it is. My point was that a lot of people think that the sub just takes it, but in the end, in order to create an environment that's safe and effective, the sub has the ultimate say in whether something happens or doesn't happen. That's the whole point of safewords—no judgment, no second-guessing. The sub says the safeword and all action stops, no questions asked. I'm not sure what you mean …
/r/seduction09/06/14 10:43 PM
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I think two things. The second conversation is exactly what I would expect from a woman who thinks "that's how you should talk to women." It's the classic problem of women not knowing the difference between what they want to be attracted by and what actually attracts them. And if you'll note, the response that you got was hesitant, not at all agreeable, and she cut it off early ("well, I gotta go.") Did absolutely nothing to increase attraction. In the first conversation, however, she was playin…
/r/seduction09/06/14 10:25 PM
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The sub controls all elements of dom/sub play. That's something that a lot of people don't understand—that the dom has the responsibility of allowing the sub to FEEL dominated while still being in control of the entire scenario. The sub, meanwhile, gets off on the dom using the sub for the dom's pleasure, but also because there's an element of trust between the two of them that allows both to be comfortable enough. You can tell almost immediately when somebody isn't ready for DS, if you know wha…
/r/seduction09/06/14 10:13 PM
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I wasn't talking down your game. I was saying that you should be wary of talking down theories that you don't seem to understand fully, based on your own descriptions of it. I think it's unwise to give advice to people in such circumstances.
/r/seduction31/05/14 09:20 PM
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I don't know of ANYBODY in pickup who advises lying to a girl to get into her pants. And I think if you believe that telling a girl something to impress her is something you should be doing, then it's no wonder that you don't think routines and other outer-game philosophies won't work for you. Having said that, there's nothing wrong with you utilizing your theories in your own life, but the thing is that outer game does work, and it works especially for people who are new to pickup, and I think …
/r/seduction31/05/14 08:42 PM
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For instance I haven't actually LIKED a girl ever since I read on this stuff two years ago. That has NOTHING to do with the stuff you've read here and EVERYTHING to do with the way you have interpreted it. First off, there's nothing at all wrong with promiscuity—as long as it's fine with you and fine with her, you don't have to make a love connection or stay together until you're both seventy years old. Hooking up is fine as long as nobody's getting hurt. Secondly, the idea that "once you score …
/r/seduction22/05/14 05:32 PM
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If I ever found out that a girl lied to me about something as serious as that, I would drop her in a heartbeat. There are some things you just don't lie or joke about.
/r/seduction22/05/14 01:53 PM
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In other words, people confuse the method with the routines. This is exactly what I meant about tailoring your approach to match how society has changed. People in this subreddit are so keen on knowing exactly what to say and are afraid to deviate from those things, so they get caught up in "what line should I use" rather than "how should I approach this situation in a general sense." Spoon-feeding lines to somebody doesn't teach them anything about the general ideas, it just teaches them to be …
/r/seduction20/05/14 06:55 PM
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Confidence is an inner glow that you just have, not something you build up brick by brick by tricks. That's silly. Confidence is bred from success. You're confident in yourself or in your ability to do something because you've built it up by practice and have succeeded in doing so. This can be done by building up self confidence through affirmation ("I can do this and I'm a good person") or through actions ("I've done these things and because of it I have confidence in those things"). As I said …
/r/seduction20/05/14 04:42 PM
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Oh, come on. The guy doesn't follow his own advice—that doesn't make his advice invalid. You're invalidating something that people have followed with a huge degree of success because the teacher isn't as good as he used to be. It would hardly be the first time that "physician, heal thyself" was the problem.
/r/seduction20/05/14 04:24 PM
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You make it sound like Mystery is the same as Mystery Method. Yes, Mystery the man is an insecure douche. But that doesn't mean that you can't get success out of his methods. I absolutely have and I still advocate MM as the foundation of all modern pickup theory.
/r/seduction20/05/14 04:12 PM
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It's not that his method is retarded, it's that his method is now outdated as hell. People assume that because his method is old, that it's ineffective. The biggest difference between Mystery Method and more "modern" methods is that it deals from things from the outside in, rather than from the inside out. Most modern pickup theory is based on the "you be awesome and girls will come to you" idea, whereas Mystery and Style teach you the fundamentals and your confidence level grows as you become m…
/r/seduction20/05/14 02:53 PM
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It's easy to reply to something like this: you just treat it like it's a shit test by agreeing and amplifying. She says you have a tiny dick, you tell her that on a good day it's like a cocktail weenie. Say that when you're really turned on you can manage an inch and a half. Why would you give a shit about what one bitch says about you?
/r/seduction12/05/14 06:29 AM
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What's more, I think that women in their 30s are actually MORE willing to have casual sex, primarily because they're more comfortable with their sexuality and understand that until they find the guy they want to settle down with, they'll have to take care of their "needs" in other ways.
/r/seduction05/05/14 05:30 AM
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Your odds of getting laid if you're honest about what you want are a lot better than you think. I was going to say the same thing. I'm almost 35 years old, and it definitely doesn't stop me from getting laid. It's the same as with any other woman—if you can disqualify yourself as a potential significant other, you can still get laid without them slowing things down on you.
/r/seduction05/05/14 05:29 AM
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Still, it feels a bit off to delete threads from guys who are just looking for a ray of hope (even if they don't actually take action and go after it). A "dark noobie" won't believe an FAQ that says "PUA totally works man" if it goes against years of internalizing negative, limiting beliefs. And if they don't at least believe some if it, they'll never try. Here's the thing: If they won't listen to us, then they can't be helped in the first place. Fact is, just like anything related to therapy (s…
/r/seduction29/04/14 07:07 PM
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I was 32 when I started applying PUA theory. Granted, I had fewer complications than you do, but there's no reason that you can't change things at 31.
/r/seduction29/04/14 07:01 PM
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If it's an anonymous blog, you should actually be fine not telling them. I would just change their names and leave it at that.
/r/seduction27/04/14 06:37 AM
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Generally speaking, you'll want to do two things when blogging about your dating life. One, you MUST inform your dates that you're doing it. And two, out of concern for privacy, you should change their names—completely, not just using first names. The biggest problem with having to notify them that you're using them for column fodder is that it may affect how they act when they're with you. But it's the only ethical thing to do.
/r/seduction27/04/14 06:25 AM
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This is the correct answer, in my opinion. The fact of the matter is that you need to get over your limiting beliefs—and this is exactly what a good portion of pickup theory is all about. The more you believe that you "don't have much to work with," the harder it's going to be to get out of that mindset. The answer, of course, is that you put yourself out there, start realizing from your actions and interactions with others that you DO have things to work with. And that's going to help the inner…
/r/seduction13/04/14 09:59 PM
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I just think that telling someone to do or not do something because it is or isn't "something men do" is stupid. You can still be alpha and drink a cosmo. It's all about how it fits in with what you do with it.
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:05 PM
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I agree that ordering a drink like that shouldn't be done to look classy, but it might be used well as a peacocking item. It could easily start some conversations. Mostly, though, it bugs me when people talk about what men should or shouldn't do. If he wants a Bellini, then he's gonna order a Bellini. To hell with whether it looks manly or not.
/r/seduction08/04/14 12:20 PM
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If you think of it that way, then that's the way it's going to come across. It's all in the presentation. Calibration is vital. Look, I don't mean this to be a slag on you, but Style literally wrote the book on seduction. I love it when people come in and diss his stuff as unworkable. "I didn't say you could" has years of field testing behind it and yes, it works.
/r/seduction08/04/14 12:16 PM
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Hate to tell you dude, but if you want to wait until marriage, you're gonna have a HARD row to hoe ahead of you. And honestly, if you're not interested in having sex, then reading a seduction forum is probably not right for you. No matter how much people want to tell you that /r/seduction is a subreddit dedicated to self improvement, its primary goal is actually to help you have sex. If you're not interested in having sex, then using tactics that are designed to get women more sexually intereste…
/r/seduction07/04/14 11:22 AM
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If you think that you can learn all you need to know about seduction without having to read, then you're an idiot. It took me all of six minutes to get through that.
/r/seduction05/04/14 06:31 PM
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They have sex because they like sex. If you think anything else, you're devaluing women as an entire gender.
/r/seduction04/04/14 03:53 AM
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There's a reason that any PUA worth his salt will tell you to engage with everybody in a group. That's because if you do it right, the friend, who has been made to feel welcome as part of the interaction, and who you have managed to get on your side, will not only be happy for her friend, but will actively try to help you get with her friend. Yeah, if you talk only to the friend and ignore the less attractive members of the group, you will alienate them and make them resent the fact that their f…
/r/seduction03/04/14 05:48 PM
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And now I understand why you're spending time reading a seduction forum. For the record, women have sex with me because they're attracted to me, not because I give them things they want, whether that's attention, compliments, money or other goods. I don't have to compliment a woman in order to have sex with her, and I certainly don't have to do it just because I think she WANTS me to compliment her. When she does something worth complimenting, I'll compliment her. You need to get it out of your …
/r/seduction03/04/14 05:21 PM
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Compliments should be handed out because you want to, not because she wants you to give her one. We don't exist to give her the validation she's looking for.
/r/seduction03/04/14 04:48 PM
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Good for you that your anecdotal experience is different from how it usually is. But that doesn't mean that I'm wrong.
/r/seduction03/04/14 12:26 AM
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Yeah, but he didn't write the line about the tea until after I posted...
/r/seduction02/04/14 11:46 PM
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1) skeptic It's spelled sceptic in UK English-speaking countries. It's only with a K here in the US.
/r/seduction02/04/14 06:01 PM
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like it's the simplest thing in the world to proposition a nonromantic friend for regular, casual sex. Thing is, that's not how you get a fuckbuddy. You get a fuckbuddy by becoming friends with somebody you're fucking, not by fucking somebody you're friends with. It almost always works like that and almost never the other way.
/r/seduction02/04/14 05:39 PM
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What is there to demotivate you? You failed. Okay, we all do that. I fail way, WAY more often than I succeed. The question is this: why should even a particularly explosive failure stop you from trying again?
/r/seduction31/03/14 06:18 PM
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Of course not. But all I can control is my own behavior. So all I can do is be as awesome as I can. Getting all upset because a girl ends up liking some other guy is the exact opposite of alpha behavior.
/r/seduction29/03/14 01:14 AM
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Then I guess I better pitch a fit and get all offended. If my girl's gonna leave me for a better guy, what can I do about it? Losing my shit over it isn't going to help any.
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:41 AM
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Okay, I get what you're saying. But I don't think that OP was speaking in those terms, either. I think he was just saying that some guy comes up and starts talking to her, and she responds to him. It's pretty rare that women will act in a way that will directly offend a guy like that. It's more likely that she's "insulting" him without realizing it.
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:08 AM
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Meh. I don't care if a girl I'm with flirts with somebody else at a bar. I know who she's going home with and so does she. I'm smart, funny, witty, and good in bed. What do I care if some guy wants to buy her a drink and try his luck? I'm not unconfident enough to worry. All she's doing is winding herself up so that I can take her home at the end of the night and fuck her silly. In short: It doesn't matter where she builds up her appetite, as long as she eats at home.
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:03 AM
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Tag: "get her numbet"
/r/seduction25/03/14 10:58 PM
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Yeah. You need to get over that feeling. ;)
/r/seduction21/03/14 02:52 PM
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That's just because you think (or rather, you feel) that there has to be some challenge in order for it to be worthwhile. It's your reptile brain telling you that it wants to chase.
/r/seduction21/03/14 02:33 PM
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I love that moment when you realize that a girl is sending you signals hardcore. That moment when you realize it's fine to escalate as far as you want, because you know she's gonna play along. It's liberating.
/r/seduction21/03/14 01:12 PM
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Okay, I'm going to be very blunt here, because you didn't specify this and it's the most important part: Did you have sex with this girl? If you didn't, then there's no real evidence that you're out of the friend zone yet.
/r/seduction21/03/14 12:51 PM
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The Game doesn't suck. It's still the foundation of all modern pickup and just about everything that actually deals with outer game has been built off of it.
/r/seduction21/03/14 06:07 AM
2

You missed the joke I was trying to make. I was gently mocking the commenter for not wanting to take the time to spell out the word "better" and instead using "bttr." So I deliberately misinterpreted the abbreviation.
/r/seduction19/03/14 02:50 PM
3

Because it ends bitter?
/r/seduction19/03/14 12:26 PM
1

Uh, yeah, you're not wrong. Which is why I suggested that he goes out and works on himself before he tries to focus on girls. You seem to come from this position of total incredulity, as if you can't fathom the idea that there are people this pitiful out there. If you really can't imagine that, then good for you, because you have never had real problems in your life. But there ARE people out there who are like this, and all you're doing by being as negative as you are is invalidating their exist…
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:10 PM
1

And if he doesn't have them, what then? You gonna insult him because he doesn't have friends?
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:03 PM
1

This "kid" needs to be given some perspective by those who might have been there before. Telling somebody to man up does nothing if they don't know how. And you're certainly not giving him any information on how to actually improve by doing so. Besides, how do you think my advice of "find things that you love to do and do them, learn how to recognize that you have a meaningful place in society, etc." DOESN'T apply in your "man up" scenario? Those are all things that will help him be a better man…
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:49 PM
1

So you've never in your entire life had to ask for help with anything? You've never encountered a single thing that you didn't know how to do intrinsically? Just because you can do something without help doesn't mean he can. And while I know you're just trolling (and thus it doesn't matter what I say here because your comments are going to be removed anyway), why do you bother coming to a community designed for helping people if you're not going to bother helping people? Go fuck yourself.
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:41 PM
1

Yeah, a karma whore. Because self posts generate SOOO much karma. I honestly hope you never have to face a situation that you think is so dire that you'll never be able to fix it yourself. Asking for help is a hard thing to do, and your comment does absolutely nothing to contribute to the world one iota.
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:24 PM
3

I'm gonna give you some tough love here, so you'll have to take this with the knowledge that I'm doing it with your best interests in mind. Dude. You're better than this. Why the hell would you ever base your self worth on how other people react to you? If you can't even be aware of your own gifts and talents, and what you offer to the world, you can't ever expect to be able to interact with women in a meaningful way. Your entire self esteem model isn't self esteem at all, it's other-people-este…
/r/seduction18/03/14 03:46 PM
9

The HB Scale is not an index of how hot a woman is, or of what social value you think she has. It is an index of how much social value she thinks she has. You're right. But you also sound like one of those people who rails on people who say "irregardless." You can be right all you want, but you're not going to stop people from doing it the other way. I guarantee you that no matter what you say, the vast majority of guys who post field reports in seddit aren't calling a girl an HB8 because they t…
/r/seduction15/03/14 01:01 AM
7

The biggest shock to me from reading this article was that the average wait for women to have sex in a given relationship is twelve weeks. Seriously? Who waits three months to have sex with a person?
/r/seduction14/03/14 03:38 PM
40

If you don't play an instrument, haul ass to a music store, pick up a Fender DG16 and learn some chords. Yeah, because what the world really needs is more shitty guitarists. ;)
/r/seduction14/03/14 01:13 PM
6

Tender?
/r/seduction13/03/14 05:04 PM
4

I feel like you're judging women for not being virgins before they meet you.
/r/seduction13/03/14 03:25 PM
14

This is slut-shaming, pure and simple. You're no more likely to get an STD from somebody who's on Tinder than you would be by going home with a woman you met in a bar. If you don't have a problem with taking a woman home the first time you meet her in a bar, then you shouldn't have a problem with doing it over Tinder, either.
/r/seduction13/03/14 03:24 PM
1

That's not what I'm saying. Then we're arguing two different things. I was pretty clear from my initial post in this thread that I was speaking in general terms about buying girls drinks. You're speaking in specific. I can see where you're coming from with this example and I guess I don't disagree, but it ultimately wasn't what I was talking about in the first place.
/r/seduction12/03/14 08:49 PM
1

So SHE says.
/r/seduction12/03/14 08:45 PM
1

There's no real way to know that given the information he gave us in his post. Regardless, it's a moot argument if he was successful in getting laid anyway; could it have had a negative impact? Sure, but apparently not too much of one if she went home with him. My point still stands, that buying a drink is not an automatic no-no.
/r/seduction12/03/14 08:39 PM
2

If you don't feel like doing it, then nobody says you have to. I was just making a comment for those who were about to go "*gasp* OMG U BOUGHT A DRINK FOR A GIRL."
/r/seduction12/03/14 07:03 PM
40

Okay, keep something in mind. When we tell you not to buy drinks for girls, what we're really telling you is not "do not ever buy girls drinks, categorically never ever, end of story." What we're telling you is simply not to fall into the trap of "I start talking to a girl, she asks me to buy her a drink, I do, she says thanks and walks away." It is of vital importance that you understand the difference here. The idea of being alpha is, first and foremost, that you do what you feel like doing wi…
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:33 AM
18

Yeah, but like half of them only speak Chinese. ;)
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:07 PM
11

Everyone seems to give the same advice regarding the friendzone. Not me. I'd tell you (and hell, so would a lot of guys in seddit) that you should forget about getting with her and go in search of other girls. Too much effort is required to try and game a friend. if you start developing feelings towards someone who has been your bestfriend for the last 5 years, is it really worth giving it a shot and possibly lose someone that has always been there for you? You've known her for five years and in…
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:02 PM
21

In a year? The answer is simple: don't tell them you're leaving. You're not going anywhere until 2015, why do you have to tell them your plans that far in advance?
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:43 PM
4

Dude, you gotta remember that in the world of dating, MOST girls aren't going to be interested in you. And that is fine. For all you know, every one of the girls you talked to just doesn't consider you her type. But I think you know what I'm about to tell you: You're tying your worth to how well received you are by women. And you need to stop doing that. This is related more to your own self-worth than anything else. If you felt that you were enough, it wouldn't bother you so much that women did…
/r/seduction26/02/14 06:38 PM
2

Okay, for one, you were wrong in your assumption about the guy, but that's already been covered so I'm not going to pile on with that. But the main point I was going to make is this: If you think a girl dropping her dead end boyfriend for you in any way makes you better, you're not such a good person. How do you know that dead end boyfriend isn't about to put his shit together and step up in his life? Maybe that dead-end boyfriend is about to put his shit together and step up in his life. That's…
/r/seduction25/02/14 05:37 PM
1

You seem to think that if somebody talks to you, you're obligated to talk back to them. This is not the case. There's a level of politeness and decorum, sure, but beyond that why should he engage with her? Just because she wants to engage with him? It's not being a dick to decide that you don't want to be involved with somebody. This notion you seem to have that you have to be nice to somebody just because they want to interact with you is flawed and untrue, beyond the idea of just being polite …
/r/seduction25/02/14 05:29 PM
2

I don't know of these escalation ladders everyone's talking about, but that seems like bullshit and forced method, and will make the whole act less enjoyable. "I don't know about this thing you guys mentioned, so I'm going to discount it as worthless before ever taking a look at it." Very open-minded of you. The DiCarlo escalation ladder works because it takes the concept of touch from the simplest, low-risk touches and describes how you move from that into the more intimate and riskier touches.…
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:38 AM
-1

I think you need to review all of the ridiculous amounts of pickup literature on online game. For one, the ratio of potential returns vs. amount of effort required for online dating is CRAZY high. It takes NO energy to do online dating.
/r/seduction21/02/14 04:46 PM
2

Heh. I WISH my boss was as hot as this girl.
/r/seduction20/02/14 04:58 PM
0

"He can come along on our date too, but I'm worried he'll feel left out."
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:59 PM
1

First, it's not like I haven't gotten anywhere with this girl. We've made out, and I had her naked at one point (both of which sound like more than you managed to do with the girl in your story), it's just that we just haven't had sex. Secondly, you seem to believe this is some kind of oneitis scenario and that I'm investing too much in her, when the fact of the matter is that I took one experience from one night with a girl, posted about it, and people interpret it as me trying to say that it's…
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:24 PM
2

What, that I'm lying about it? If I were lying about it, I'd simply say that it led me to an F-close. In fact, it's the fact that I didn't get laid that makes people question the validity of it, which I find hilarious. The realy irony is that I never said that this is going to get you laid, merely that it's important to consider these kinds of actions because they do have a direct impact on how women see you. *shrug* I'm not going to make any claims that this is the be-all-end-all of pickup. I n…
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:03 PM
1

I can tell you exactly why I remember what I said afterward but not what I said before. It's for the simple reason that the first thing I said had no meaning to me whatsoever. It was just something I said. It wasn't until she called me on it that my brain kicked into gear. You have to understand that while a lot of sedditors (usually the newbies) are always concerned with exactly what to say to a girl and when to say it, the rest of us know that once you get comfortable with who you are, you don…
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:01 PM
1

Like I said in the post, I can't even remember what it was that I said that made her say that. It had something to do with how much she likes me or how great she thinks I am or something like that. It was a cocky and arrogant comment that was just off the cuff.
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:55 PM
2

If you're not being congruent, then you're obviously not being yourself, first of all. You're either acting in a manner different than you're feeling or you're acting in accordance with that.
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:37 PM
2

I really don't care whether I get "worked" by the commenters. Like I've said in a handful of other comments, none of that has any relevance to the fact that what I'm saying in the post is still useful. If they choose not to believe what I say about why we can't get together and that it's not because I simply lack the necessary game to get her into bed, that's their prerogative.
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:35 PM
10

Fine, dude, it wasn't a shit test. I'm sure you know much better than I, given that I was there and you weren't. I don't know why people have to argue over this stuff—what I posted means the same regardless of whether it was a shit test or not. You're getting bogged down in the wrong details.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:31 AM
4

Flirting is done in a playful manner. The way she said it was not in a playful manner. She was deliberately trying to look like she was offended. It's all in how you present yourself.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:05 AM
1

While it might have been holding on as much as the comment I made, I feel that what I said was better simply because it took what she said—about me being cocky—and reframed it as her liking the fact that I was being cocky. And she does like it, but she deliberately tried to make it seem like she didn't. I didn't accept that and instead turned it on its ear. "Yeah, and that's just the way you like it" is the kind of thing that reframes her attempt at a negative comment into a positive one, and it…
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:09 AM
89

Yup, you got it. Nail on the head. Bullseye. Hole in one.
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:27 AM
6

The advice that we give in this subreddit is for those who aren't necessarily as sure of themselves as those who maybe don't need the advice as much. Giving those people the ability to see the patterns in their own lives that let them take those steps is important, as I see it. Yeah, it'd be great if we were all so sure of ourselves that we don't have to think about our actions. But just like somebody training for a sport or learning dance steps, it's vital to point out those moments when a pers…
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:21 AM
51

Considering I'm a few months shy of 35, I'm pretty sure my mother wants me to stop being single more than anything right now. :)
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:15 AM
4

I simply don't want to go into the details of it here. It's not anything regarding jealousy or prior commitment. It's just not cut and dried and I don't feel like unpacking it here, especially when it has no relevance to the story or the point I was trying to make in my post.
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:05 AM
1

First off, you need to stop taking this personally. My high horse? We're debating the finer points of pickup here, dude, and all I said was that I had a valid point. Secondly, if you keep texting a night nurse to come out and expect her to join you, then you're an idiot. I said that you shouldn't have to do scheduling acrobatics to be able to see a girl, not that you shouldn't, y'know, know anything about her like what she does for a living. Stop saying ridiculous things that have no bearing on …
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:12 AM
38

This isn't just about confidence, but gee willikers, thank you for giving us all the platitude. "Just be confident" is a meaningless statement if they don't know how to apply it. It's about knowing when you have to take a step forward instead of staying where you are or taking a step back. A lot of guys, if presented with what this girl said, would have folded their hand and walked away.
/r/seduction18/02/14 12:02 AM
10

Nope. But it's a complicated situation for a number of reasons that I don't want to go into.
/r/seduction17/02/14 11:58 PM
2

What I said is valid regardless. The fact of that matter is that if she's that high value, she's just as likely to flake on you whether you make plans or be spontaneous. How far ahead you invite her out has no bearing on it. If she likes you, she'll make time for you, and that's the fact of it.
/r/seduction17/02/14 10:57 PM
1

So it is a good choice to plan something. Why? I don't need her, no matter how hot she is. I'm a busy and desireable person, too. If I tell her that I'm spontaneously doing something and she's welcome to join me, she can choose to do it or not, but if she chooses not to, then she doesn't get to see me and that's her loss, not mine. The minute I start trying to do schedule acrobatics trying to see her is the minute I start looking like a chump who will do anything just so I can spend time with he…
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:47 PM
2

"Do you want to do something this weekend?" Or is that too bold? That's bold? No. Bold is "I want to come over to your place right now." Asking someone out isn't bold. Look, if he likes you, he's going to allow you to be a lot bolder than you think you can or should be. So what's the worst that can happen? He's not interested and he shoots you down. No big whoop.
/r/seduction15/02/14 08:43 PM
0

I personally consider that making a move on a girl with a boyfriend (even if he is a shitty one) is a stupid and wrong thing to do. Really? What if he's abusive, should you not try to interfere then? What if she's miserable? I can think of a number of circumstances where getting a girl to leave the relationship is a GREAT thing to do.
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:23 PM
2

Oh come on, there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that shitty things have happened. It really bugs me when people on seddit talk about how you can't ever acknowledge bad stuff that happens. There's nothing wrong with going "You know what? That was a run of shit luck right there." The important thing is being able to let it roll off your back once you've acknowledged it and not letting it affect your attitude or actions moving forward. But no, he's not needy just for saying "God, it sucks that…
/r/seduction13/02/14 09:09 PM
2

First off, you're both pretty, so stop fighting. Secondly, this is why I advocate not using numbers at all. It is absolutely pointless. Attractiveness, for the purpose of a FR, is a binary thing: she was either attractive enough for you to want to fuck her or she wasn't. Nobody needs to know just how hot she was.
/r/seduction07/02/14 09:13 PM
-1

Look at it logically. By the time you ever think of doing last-ditch things like "well there has to be something I can do," you've already lost all control over the situation and you're just scrabbling to get out of the pit you've dug yourself into. If you've got abundance mentality going for yourself, you should never let yourself get so caught up on one girl that you would work that hard for so little return. What's the point, when you can go find a new girl (or several) that you wouldn't have…
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:48 PM
-1

Everything is subjective. You're supposed to be using, y'know, good judgment. But one thing that isn't subjective is this: if you ever have the opinion that you should "do anything you can," you're over the line.
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:40 PM
6

Might as well do anything you can to maximize outcome at that point. Dear God, no. A PUA should never have a situation where he feels the need to "go for broke" or throw a Hail Mary. If it's gotten to that point, he's failed on numerous levels. Ideally, you should be able to tell when things have transitioned from a "there's still a possibility and I'm interested enough to bother trying" situation and a "I'm spinning my wheels and not getting anywhere, and I'm now throwing a bunch of stuff at th…
/r/seduction06/02/14 07:18 PM
2

I'm suggesting that you be nonreactive. If you respond to an eye roll by getting all pissy and storming off, then you've destroyed the interaction anyway. What's the harm in staying your normal, charming, gregarious self? If you know about Bitch Shields, then you understand that her first reaction to you may not be the way she'll be in ten seconds. I'm not saying that you continue to bother a girl after she's made it clear that she doesn't want you around, but that first response isn't necessari…
/r/seduction04/02/14 01:33 AM
1

Can I argue that a woman who is rude at the start just has poor character? You need to try to understand that attractive women get hit on a LOT by guys. And that has its effect on a woman's reactions. It's not that she's being rude, and unlike /u/Randomactsoftemp said, it's not exactly a shit test. It's a Bitch Shield. It's an unconscious reaction they have to meeting a guy that immediately tries to shut him down and prevent him from hitting on her. But if you can power through that for just a c…
/r/seduction04/02/14 12:47 AM
7

Why is it rude? Why should you have to explain yourself to somebody who doesn't treat you with respect? You don't owe anybody anything, and you certainly don't owe them any kind of explanation if you don't want to see them again. Just saying "I don't want to see you anymore" should be plenty.
/r/seduction03/02/14 01:35 AM
2

Sometimes, having somebody else describe our problem to us is the best way to see how ridiculous the problem can look. I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence, though I don't think you believe that I was, but I was trying to help you along, and hopefully any other people who might be in the same boat as you who may not have the same level of self-awareness. :)
/r/seduction30/01/14 09:46 PM
3

Everybody is selfish. We all want what's best for ourselves, even when we're supposedly looking out for others' well being. For example: When you do something nice for somebody else, you aren't really doing it just to be nice for them. You're doing it because you get a rush of dopamine when you've done that nice thing and they thank you for it. Which is why so many people get really aggravated when they do something nice and it isn't acknowledged. It's not about them, it's about us. Selfish. If …
/r/seduction29/01/14 07:56 AM
2

I think it's okay to not be fine with someone saying "no", as in, it's perfectly acceptable to be disappointed/sad if you get rejected. It's okay to have an emotional or instinctual response to something like that, sure. When a girl I like turns me down, I feel a pang of regret. It sucks. And then my rational mind kicks in and says "Hey. She doesn't owe you anything at all." It's the rational mind we should be following here, the one that says "Yeah, you're allowed to feel like that. Just don't …
/r/seduction29/01/14 07:51 AM
-4

We got over mocking my username a long time ago. Why should we have to spoonfeed you with information when it's literally on the subreddit's sidebar?
/r/seduction26/01/14 12:56 AM
1

There's a reason that there's things called a FAQ.
/r/seduction26/01/14 12:51 AM
5

It's not beta to be the bigger man. Beta is allowing your behavior to be dictated by others. What's more, a guy who wants to cockblock you so he can get with the girl you want isn't personally attacking you. The girl isn't yours, so you're owed nothing by this guy and getting angry because he has better game than you is just about the epitome of beta.
/r/seduction25/01/14 11:54 PM
9

By taking the time to humiliate somebody who obviously isn't as together as you are should be, you're showing everybody at the party just how needy you are.
/r/seduction25/01/14 10:19 PM
-8

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pua+glossary+afc
/r/seduction25/01/14 10:18 PM
1

This is one of the oldest tropes in the seduction community, and it's complete and utter bullshit. Stop spouting clichées and recognize that what you should really be saying is that you don't ask someone who isn't self-aware about what they really want. Some women are perfectly self-aware, and they can contribute in a very real way to the community.
/r/seduction25/01/14 09:16 PM
1

Women give good advice all the time, and your assuming that anything they say should be ignored will be done at your own peril. I've experienced it firsthand, too, so it's not like I'm only going on what other people tell me.
/r/seduction25/01/14 07:19 PM
6

My point is that you need to get the woman's attention before you dance with her. Simply grinding up on her from behind without so much as a hello will get many a girl annoyed with you and thinking you're a creep.
/r/seduction25/01/14 07:15 PM
8

Every woman I've ever talked to about dancing at clubs has said that they HATE it when guys just dance up on them from behind. You have to TALK to a girl before you start dancing with her, or at the very least, dance in front of her, not behind her. Approaching a woman from behind is generally discouraged anyway.
/r/seduction25/01/14 06:51 PM
-26

So what if he is? There something wrong with that?
/r/seduction23/01/14 11:18 PM
1

Escalation with any girl is the same regardless of whether they're a friend or not. My point in linking to that post is that most guys get hung up on one girl, ignoring the fact that she's probably not interested in them sexually, and then pine away without realizing that what they need to do is get out there and meet other girls. You've been out with this girl once, you said. Why didn't you kiss her then? It's pretty hard to tell if there's a connection if there's nothing physical happening bet…
/r/seduction20/01/14 07:42 PM
1

If you have a question that is something along the lines of "How do I game my friend?" then read this.
/r/seduction20/01/14 03:46 PM
1

And if I don't come back tonight with some experience I'm going to have my testicles rightfully taken from me. This is the wrong attitude to have, actually. Outcome independence: Don't be caught up in whether something happens or doesn't happen. The objective is to have fun. Anything that happens is the result of having fun and being awesome. So focus on that: having fun and being awesome.
/r/seduction09/01/14 05:40 AM
1

Don't feed the trolls, just report the post to the mods and leave it at that.
/r/seduction08/01/14 06:04 PM
10

You make it sound like getting laid and getting "something more serious" are mutually exclusive. You CAN do both, using the same techniques.
/r/seduction05/01/14 04:13 PM
9

Sometimes, it's best simply to let an AMOG hoist himself upon his own petard. (One minor quibble: it's "Corps," not "core." As in Marine Corps.)
/r/seduction03/01/14 07:32 PM
3

It's hardly dead. I reply to a lot of posts there and I see lots of replies. What IS too bad about /r/askseddit, though, is that it tends to be filled with answers given by white knights or people who simply should not be providing answers. People who don't provide answers that are in any way tested or considered to be useful. And the biggest problem with white knighting is that they tend to downvote those of us who DO provide answers that are considered to be useful.
/r/seduction26/12/13 10:46 PM
1

I kind of didn't want to escalate on the first date just to show that I'm not only looking for "sex". As I posted earlier, not only is there nothing wrong with having sex on the first date, but there are ways to have sex on the first date and still not come across as looking like you're "only" interested in sex. Like other people have said, you're acting this way in opposition to your own desires. If you're really just interested in the chase, then why bother posting a field report in the first …
/r/seduction25/12/13 08:31 PM
1

One of those is - if I like the girl, more than just a one night stand, I will not pursue intimate acts too quickly. My advice to you is that you ask yourself seriously why this is, and adjust accordingly. Because the fact of the matter is that there's literally nothing wrong with becoming intimate with somebody soon, especially if you like them. You're acting this way because you think that women won't start something serious with a guy they sleep with on the first date, or possibly because you…
/r/seduction25/12/13 08:26 PM
14

CONT. No, YOU'RE a cont. Great read as always dude. I miss seeing fun stories in seddit.
/r/seduction24/12/13 06:46 PM
2

And sure, canned lines work and they work really well. But is that really all you want out of this? Getting laid is cool but believe me that high fades quick. The fun is actually developing relationships on more than just a physical level. People will get laid off canned lines but gratification will be short lived and superficial. There's a huge amount of assumption here on your part, dude. You're assuming that OP is only referring to getting laid, when the fact of the matter is that canned line…
/r/seduction22/12/13 04:49 AM
3

Yes. The purpose of a vacation is to enjoy oneself. Can you enjoy yourself while trying to force yourself to go talk to people? Sure, but if you make it the whole purpose of the trip, you're losing out on the real experience. One thing I've always been good at is talking to strangers. So please believe me when I tell you that if you start talking to a random person as if they're your friend, they'll react like a friend. Don't worry so much about whether they'll like you or want to go back to you…
/r/seduction21/12/13 12:05 PM
3

It's elicit, not illicit.
/r/seduction18/12/13 07:27 PM
5

Indirect Game is somewhat outdated nowadays, and I'm pretty sure OP wasn't using the term 100% correctly, but it originates from the old school techniques like Mystery Method, in which you don't outright tell your target that you're interested in her. You do what they call disqualification, where you pretend you're not interested in dating her, but your actions don't match what you tell (or imply) to her. The idea is that while she will intellectually see you as not a potential suitor, her body …
/r/seduction10/12/13 12:10 PM
3

You're definitely thinking the wrong way. Look, wanting to be in a long-term relationship is great and all, but you should really focus on getting into a short-term relationship first. If the first thing you tell a girl when you meet her is that you want to get into a long-term relationship, it's going to put a lot of pressure on her to be that one girl that will be with you forever, and it's going to be a huge turn-off for her. Instead, you should be a little more focused in the now. "I like th…
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:55 AM
11

Nope. You waited far too long. Dude, four months without making any kind of move on her? She had you in the friendzone after like two weeks of that shit. Sorry dude, but you need to go a lot quicker than that, even with (especially with) indirect game.
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:50 AM
6

I'm guessing that you're young. In the Real World of dating, things tend to move a lot faster than you'd expect them to when you're younger. (If you aren't young, I'm not being patronizing, so I hope you aren't offended by my assumption.)
/r/seduction04/12/13 07:18 PM
12

Why would you think that having sex with a girl early on prevents her from becoming your girlfriend?
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:57 PM
12

Have sex with them faster. I'm not kidding. If you're not at least TRYING to get her into bed by the end of the third date, then she's going to assume you just aren't that interested in her and she'll put up her defensive walls.
/r/seduction04/12/13 06:01 PM
2

This is a question for /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction03/12/13 05:27 PM
3

I don't know if it'll sound weird or desperate, but I think I have a shot, she knows I love her and I think she has some feelings for me(not like me but something...). I will tell you right now that this is NOT the case. Women don't just suddenly realize that they're in love with a guy who they previously rejected. It just. doesn't. work. that. way. So your hopes that she's going to suddenly want to start something after already telling you that it wasn't going to work... it's a vain hope. You n…
/r/seduction02/12/13 07:01 AM
2

I think the context matters. I have friends who come up and hug me all the time, or put their arm around me or whatever. But the difference is where their attention lies. If they put their arm around you and say "Hey man, what's up?" and they're talking to YOU, that's one thing. But if they're doing it to try to get into a group conversation or their focus is on themselves or other members of the group you're in instead of you, they're doing it to draw attention to themselves. I know guys who ab…
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:54 PM
1

That dude is NOT a wingman.
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:51 PM
2

Actually, I find that women are generally more comfortable taking you back to their place (if they've decided to hook up with you) than going to yours. It's the whole I-feel-safer-in-my-own-territory thing. But if they've decided to hook up with you, they're probably comfortable enough with you that they don't think you're going to cut them into pieces or anything by that point.
/r/seduction29/11/13 08:08 PM
3

Exactly what I was going to say. Over the last couple months I went out with a girl three times before she let me know where she lived, and that was only because I came over to her place to cook dinner for her. In fact, I generally just assume that a woman is going to meet me somewhere for at least the first couple dates, unless we hook up right away.
/r/seduction29/11/13 08:00 PM
3

Sometimes it's a trust issue that needs to be chipped away at. If you want to spend your time on a girl who can't trust you, go right ahead. I won't waste my time. I'm a stable person who has a realistic view of the world and I won't bother with a girl who distrusts me and that I have to "chip away" at just so she'll think I'm safe or honest or whatever. There are plenty of other women out there who will do that without any effort on my part.
/r/seduction17/11/13 09:59 PM
4

Your problem is that you don't feel worthy enough to be able to FIND another woman like that. Here's an example of why it's not working for you: When I go out with a girl, say to a bar, and she wants to go mingle and talk with other people, I say go ahead. She wants to try and scam free drinks off of other guys? Fine with me; less that I'm going to have to pay for. Why doesn't it bother me, when I know that she's going out there to flirt with other guys? Because I know that at the end of the nig…
/r/seduction11/11/13 09:58 AM
12

Nobody here is saying that you should avoid making friends with women. If you thought that, you were wrong. What we ARE saying is that it's not worth your time and energy trying to seduce somebody who has put you into the friendzone. Which is to say, don't bother hanging out with a girl if you're attracted to her but she's not reciprocating. If you can't get past the attraction, then all you end up doing is pining for somebody who's not going to return the sentiment. Being friends with women is …
/r/seduction10/11/13 02:22 AM
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Decent FR, but I want to point out something that has a little bit to do with inner game-type stuff and a lot to do with one of my pet peeves: So yeah I spotted the gay guy outside and went up to him, he told me he lost his friends so I put my arm around his shoulder and said "Let's go find them". Obviously I was doing this in a friendly manner, not in a gay way hahah. First off, there's nothing wrong with looking gay. But even if there were something wrong with it, when you say things like this…
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:49 PM
5

Guys get angry when you challenge their viewpoint that every girl can have unlimited sex whenever they want. Because they can. This is absolute bullshit. Sure, women can get laid whenever they want, but only if they drastically lower their standards to the point where they're sleeping with a guy that they aren't attracted to. (You essentially said as much in your post.) But the truth of the matter is that guys can absolutely do the same thing—provided they also drastically lower their standards …
/r/seduction30/10/13 06:03 AM
2

I'm much in the same boat as you, dude. I'm 34 years old, I'm relatively good looking, but I weigh 260 pounds. I've been doing pickup for the last couple years, and let me tell you that I have seen firsthand how much of a difference confidence makes. Unfortunately, I know that not much of what I say is going to convince you otherwise unless you can manage to get over your own issues enough to not care and just put yourself out there. I stopped being self-conscious mainly because I know that I ha…
/r/seduction29/10/13 08:26 PM
2

I was gonna say this. Don't ever assume. Unless she specifically tells you that she's engaged to somebody, your assumption should be that she was responding positively to you in good faith. Continue doing what you were doing until you find out more about her, and THEN make a judgment call. But don't judge before you know the facts.
/r/seduction27/10/13 10:14 PM
4

As for number 2, it doesn't matter if you don't care. Sometimes, there are just things that you do because that's what you do. It's really not that difficult for you to just pick a place to go or choose what the two of you are going to do. You may not care, but all that means to you is that one place is just as good as another, so choosing one should be really fucking easy. If it doesn't matter whether you go to the steakhouse or the Italian place, great: go to the Italian place because hey, who…
/r/seduction16/10/13 06:13 AM
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It works because it disqualifies you. Women will let their guard down when they think you're gay, but they will still react to you when you escalate with them. The key is that you're actually mixing up your signals, which confuses her receptors.
/r/seduction15/10/13 01:44 AM
4

God, I hope being 27 isn't too old to approach. I'm 34, and if it is, then I might as well pack up and go home.
/r/seduction14/10/13 06:02 AM
2

This subreddit helps you to have sexual relationships with women. Sexual relationships are the surest way to move to something with more meaning, i.e. a long-term relationship. What you DO with a sexual relationship with a woman is up to you. You can choose to have meaningless one-night stands with tons of women, or you can choose to follow a path where you want something further with a specific woman. But don't blame pickup for your inability to have a meaningful relationship with somebody. How…
/r/seduction14/10/13 05:59 AM
2

How would you describe yourself in the looks department (does that have any benefit on your 'confidence'?) I know what you're asking here and I agree that his looks had a factor in it, but don't think of it as "how good looking are you?" It's really all about how good looking he is to her. Women do have preferences—hell, if I could count all my female friends who like guys with beards and put them on a scale against all my female friends who don't like guys with beards... I'm sure you get my poi…
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:49 AM
2

FINALLY, somebody with a real name in the game agrees with me. I've been arguing against the HB scale for quite some time.
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:39 AM
1

So he takes it seriously and you have to get the cops called on him. It's not the end of the world if you get hit a couple times, and it only makes the other guy look like an idiot in front of his friends.
/r/seduction03/10/13 07:09 PM
1

The problem is that you assume that something like that is an insult or that guys should/do take offense. Most guys I know, even the macho ones, will laugh off a joke like that if it's clearly not being serious.
/r/seduction03/10/13 06:05 PM
2

You aren't wrong. But the stereotype of leading a woman isn't that far off, and it's far less damaging than the other. It's also more demonstrable than the one I cited.
/r/seduction01/10/13 05:49 AM
1

It's not about that. Curveball is telling you to do what you want, which is about 90% of the advice we give on seddit. If you want to have sex with her again, then initiate something, and stop worrying about how it looks or what other people (her included) are going to think about you.
/r/seduction30/09/13 06:41 PM
5

I think something definitely changes once you fuck the girl. She is now more invested in you than you are in her. a) Don't get caught up in stereotypes. This isn't always the case. b) You're still the man and she'll still expect you to be the leader in the interactions, regardless of how invested in you she might be.
/r/seduction30/09/13 06:39 PM
3

I actually use pheromone cologne. I don't use it because I actually think the pheromones work, but because I think it smells amazing on me. I bought it one night online when I was hammered, and I just lucked out that it smells good on me. One interesting thing about it, though, is that every girl who smells it not only loves it, but thinks that it smells like something different. It reminds different girls of difference scents. I don't think that actually has anything to do with pheromones, thou…
/r/seduction24/09/13 06:00 AM
3

For people who've gone through Alcoholics Anonymous, the drink of choice at a bar is generally club soda with a twist. It's almost universally recognized by bartenders as a non-drinker's drink (or alcoholic's drink).
/r/seduction23/09/13 07:02 PM
1

I don't blame you for it, you're just playing the game, but it's just kind of sad that honest, straight forward behavior yields bad results, while two-faced manipulation is effective. You're talking about boring vs. exciting. Everybody wants something that excites them and nobody wants something they don't have to work for. That's just the way of the novelty. You want something novel, something that provides a challenge. The cat doesn't want the piece of string when it's just handed to them—but …
/r/seduction18/09/13 06:31 AM
8

That last paragraph is absolutely spot on. Not only do I like eating pussy, I'm damn good at it (bisexual girl who had been in a five-year relationship with another girl told me once that I was better at eating pussy than SHE was, which is probably the biggest compliment I've ever received in my life). Couple that with the fact that a good percentage of guys don't like to eat pussy (though don't ask me why, because it's fucking amazing to have that much power to give pleasure in your possession)…
/r/seduction16/09/13 08:38 AM
1

I really think that your own attitude towards it has more of an impact on her reaction than the fact itself. If you tell her "Oh... yeah... well, I'm, y'know, unemployed" and then you look down at your feet and kick a pebble, she's going to react to that in a negative way. If you, on the other hand, treat it like it's just another fact about you and move on from there, then she'll be a lot less likely to have a problem with it because hey, you don't have a problem with it, so why should she? I t…
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:34 PM
2

Try dressing like and telling women you're broke and watch what happens. I've been unemployed for over a year. Doesn't stop me from getting any. They're called "limiting beliefs" for a reason. Change them and watch the limits disappear.
/r/seduction11/09/13 02:17 PM
2

* <-- The point () <-- Your head
/r/seduction11/09/13 01:31 PM
3

I haven't met a single guy who got hung up over "looks" and also had good game. They don't exist. This is probably the best description I've ever read in terms of guys who complain about looks. You're absolutely right, and as soon as I read that comment, I realized that I, too, have never met a guy who got hung up over looks that was also good at picking up women. The sad thing is, though, that they use that as a confirmation bias. "I'm not good looking; I can't get a girl; therefore women care …
/r/seduction11/09/13 01:29 PM
1

This guy wasn't an AMOG. He was the epitome of beta. If anything, Tofu was the one AMOGging the guy by just being that much better. But to answer your question, no, not necessarily. The guy didn't have a claim on the girl or anything. They were talking and he was buying her drinks. There's nothing to prevent Tofu from walking up to her and talking to her as well.
/r/seduction09/09/13 04:41 PM
1

I couldn't even watch the whole thing. That was just painful.
/r/seduction09/09/13 04:39 PM
2

This is the proper answer. The appropriate way to respond to the "we're not going to have sex tonight" shit test is to reframe her as the sexual aggressor. The right response is exactly what RythmAndTango said: "Whoa, slow down there tiger. Who said anything about sex? I'm not that easy—I need you to wine and dine me before I'll give it up."
/r/seduction03/09/13 01:05 AM
1

You have a point there. But if she does have a problem with him doing his own thing, it's just letting him know that she's not the kind of girl he wants to be with in the first place, so she'd be doing him a favor.
/r/seduction31/08/13 04:33 PM
3

I felt I was ethically obliged to not be with anyone else that night. Why? You do what you want to do. You don't even know this girl, so why do you feel obliged to spend time with her if you want to do something else? Just tell her you'll see her later, get her number, and go have fun somewhere else. She's not going to resent you for that.
/r/seduction31/08/13 08:21 AM
2

What's hard about it? You walk up to a girl and you say "Hey, who are you, what's your name?" That's all you need to do. I say ask for her name because I feel that getting a woman to give you her name before she knows yours is a way to help her feel more comfortable with you right off the bat. Stop worrying about what you say to a woman and worry more about simply saying something to her.
/r/seduction25/08/13 03:02 AM
1

His "status" level doesn't matter in terms of what he said in the OP. You're still trying to couch it in terms of him being a PUA. And you're still trying to discredit it. And that's why it doesn't matter. Why do you even bother reading /r/askseddit if you don't believe in it? I say again that you're just trolling. Whether you like it or not, it works for some people, and if it doesn't for you, it's because you either don't want to work hard enough and you want to find an excuse for it, or becau…
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:56 PM
1

*sigh* Again, it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:45 PM
3

I don't see how the hell this matters. You're trying to discredit what he's saying, but just how hot a girl is doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that he's attracted to them and that he wants to get involved with them in some way. Your trolling comment has absolutely zero to do with anything.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:29 PM
2

I'm totally confused as to your mindset here. All the women were saying was that the thing they remembered most from their first date with a partner was how great he was, not that he ordered a particular bottle of wine or talked about his job or any of that. At the same time, they were impressed at his ability to remember details from something she might have said offhandedly during the date, and that it was endearing to them. They weren't saying at all that that's what they wanted from a guy, j…
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:17 PM
2

That was one moment out of a three hour discussion, and I gave that photo because it had a fun action in it with the woman on the left holding her hand out to emphasize what she was saying as well as having TofuTofu clearly visible in the shot, and had the window in the back with good light coming in. It's hardly representational of the entire discussion, which, I might add, had a lot of laughter and joking in it.
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:13 PM
1

You only need to worry about it if she's thinking about dumping you. Most women in that kind of scenario will start lining up a potential new boyfriend before they've split up with the old one, so they don't have to bother with being single. But it's not cheating, and if your relationship is strong, you don't have to worry about that anyway.
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:11 PM
2

He wasn't having a discussion with them. He was asking questions and they were talking with each other. It was designed as a kind of a way to have "girl talk" while being present for it. It's not perfect—it never can be in this kind of situation—but I was there, and I got a real sense that they were being honest and straightforward with each other, with minor exceptions.
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:09 PM
1

It was a group discussion. And once they had some sangria in them, it got loud.
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:07 PM
8

Honestly, from the pic, they all look pretty plain jane to me How can you even tell that from something with faces blurred out? I would have banged any one of them, including the 48 year old who absolutely exuded sexuality.
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:03 PM
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This is just a few diva, club-girl types, who probably get off on attention. Interesting that you'd say that when you don't know anything about them. I spoke with each of them at the meeting and while they all do kind of fit into a similar demographic (we were in the Financial District, after all), I would only have classified one of them as a "party girl." But they were all reasonably to very attractive. The age range was 22-23 up to about 30 with one exception for a woman who was 48. I'll also…
/r/seduction16/08/13 07:00 PM
2

Is penis size important? Yes, but with one caveat: It's not nearly as important as YOU'RE worried it is.
/r/seduction16/08/13 06:53 PM
1

Now if only I can get them in the sizes I need. How much longer before you get the FDA to change their minds? :)
/r/seduction16/08/13 06:01 PM
1

I stand corrected.
/r/seduction16/08/13 03:44 PM
7

TofuTofu asked me to take photos of the event. Those are my pictures he posted in the OP. And I can tell you firsthand that everything he said is accurate to what they said.
/r/seduction16/08/13 03:21 AM
5

Lambskin does not protect against STDs, my friend. It's porous enough to allow microbes like viruses and bacteria through. Latex or polyisoprene only if you want to prevent STDs.
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:45 PM
1

Skyn condoms also have the benefit of being made of polyisoprene (plastic) as opposed to latex, so they're nonallergenic.
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:44 PM
2

Thing is, though, that if you'd simply sent the message above without the "what are you up to" before it, you'd have appeared far more assertive. You don't need an introductory message before you invite her to do something, just send her a message out of the blue that says "Hey, we're going to a movie tonight, come along."
/r/seduction12/08/13 02:48 AM
2

I use a pheromone cologne called Pherlure. I don't use it because I think it happens to work as a pheromone, but just because I like the scent and it works well with my body chemistry. I do NOT buy into the pheromone hype, but I bought this stuff one night when I was hammered and thankfully it smells really good on me. It does have one interesting effect on women, though: different women smell different things on me. Some think it smells like laundry, some think it smells woodsy, some think it s…
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:09 PM
2

Inner Game is stuff like confidence, not giving a shit, outcome independence, that kind of thing. Outer Game is all of the actual techniques and understanding of how to actually DO the things that make pickup work. Without knowing what kinds of things to say and when to say them, you're just coming across as a fun and funny guy who isn't doing anything at all to seduce a girl.
/r/seduction08/08/13 05:50 PM
8

I'm not going to talk smack on this guy. I've done stupid shit like this. Why? Because when you reach a certain level of frustration, you just kind of go all out. Dude. This is all the more reason that he needs to get sense slapped into him, and SOON. If he doesn't, he's going to start hating women with a passion.
/r/seduction08/08/13 05:58 AM
10

This right here is the biggest problem with pickup these days, in which the formula is not followed because people think that Inner Game is the only important thing. Au contraire, mon frère. Outer game is vitally important if ONLY for the reason that you MUST understand the simple structure that is Attraction->Comfort->Seduction. Without that, and without understanding it, no amount of Inner Game is going to get you where you need to go.
/r/seduction08/08/13 05:55 AM
3

Being up-front with her and being blunt aren't necessarily the same thing. There are ways to tell her that you're seeing other people that both get the message across and still make her feel better about it. "I'm keeping my options open and seeing a few people at the moment and nothing is getting serious. Should I decide to get serious with anybody, that's when I'll consider exclusivity."
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:02 PM
2

What he said.
/r/seduction06/08/13 05:13 AM
5

In just about any situation, you should treat it like a shit test. You have three options in that case: ignore, reframe, or agree and amplify.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:59 PM
17

It shouldn't be an uncomfortable truth. It's something that is, and if she doesn't like it, it's far better that she knows upfront at the beginning than misunderstands him and gets upset because she feels he misled her later on. Either she's okay with him dating other people or she's not. Thinly veiling it in a "I don't know what I'm doing, tee-hee!" isn't going to make it any easier for either of them.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:58 PM
1

Interesting. More girls are saying yes to me than I thought would.
/r/seduction01/08/13 07:26 AM
1

I tried to be as clear as I could. I got a notification for one girl. But when I looked at my list of "matches," it listed a BUNCH of chicks, none of whom it had notified me about. I wasn't sure if it was just listing all the girls I'd said "yes" to or if the list of "matches" was a list of all the girls I'd said yes to who had also said yes to me.
/r/seduction01/08/13 06:58 AM
2

I always love reading "just go for the kiss!" because the only reaction I can ever see a girl having in response to something so bold is to immediately move her face backward when you go in for it. She's going to immediately think "whoa, where the hell did that come from?" and 99% of the time, she's not going to be impressed by it.
/r/seduction28/07/13 11:53 PM
3

If she's anticipating the lick, as you put it, then that means she's already aroused in some other fashion. Getting a woman ready for sex is far more about her mind than it is her body parts. But if you're just starting to try to get her turned on, you'd be far better to kiss the back of her neck than you would to dig into her panties right away. Hell, most times, getting her turned on is about what you say to her more than what you do. I was once on a date with a girl and started talking to her…
/r/seduction27/07/13 04:38 PM
6

I find it to sometimes be the opposite - a touch that might usually turn me on becomes irritating if the social/emotional interaction has gone wrong. Or worse: If you're feeling awkward or uncomfortable, a touch can actively make you feel sick. There's a phenomenon I call "doctor touch." It's that sensation you get when you're touched in a place that makes your body react in a negative way. There's a spot on my thighs right near my dick (as well as my junk) where if you touch it, and I'm not aro…
/r/seduction27/07/13 04:32 PM
3

I don't generally think too much about why I want to have sex with any one particular woman. Either she gets my dick hard or she doesn't. If you like MILFs because of the challenge they provide, then that's fine, and you shouldn't be afraid of what that means in the grander scheme. You're attracted to them and you're not hurting yourself by it, so you shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with it.
/r/seduction26/07/13 02:01 AM
2

As a fellow photographer, I find that most women who want me to photograph them are NOT interested in me. They might flirt, but if I'm at a club night taking photos, hot girls are all up on me for the five seconds it takes to ask me to take their photo, and once I do, they're off again. I don't know who started spreading the rumor that being a photographer helps to get you laid, but it's simply not true.
/r/seduction26/07/13 12:27 AM
3

The reason I ask is that my personal goal is to seek out those women who are compatible with me and hopefully get into a relationship. Picking up a model or a milf would bring me nothing but bragging rights. If the only value you put on a model is that she's hot, then yes, it would bring you nothing but bragging rights. But you seem to be going on the assumption that models have nothing to bring to the table other than their looks. The thing is, there's nothing wrong with being attracted to some…
/r/seduction26/07/13 12:24 AM
9

This was discussed in her last post, and frankly, in this case it's not true. In a lot of cases, you're right. Most women who come in here might know a little bit about pickup and might think they're being helpful when in truth they're not doing much else than spouting very basic stuff. OP is not doing this. She's proven that not only does she grasp pickup concepts on a level that most of the guys in this subreddit don't, but if you read her posts and comments carefully, you'll see quotes and re…
/r/seduction25/07/13 07:22 AM
6

It wasn't that he lacked any organized ability of Game (capital G), but that he lacked game (lowercase g). In other words, he simply didn't know how to talk to a girl. It's not that the good looking guy needed to be a PUA, it's that he just needed to know how not to be an idiot. And couldn't even manage that much. Hell, the same thing happens to me when I'm talking to a girl. She could be the hottest thing I've seen in months, but if she's vapid and self-absorbed and doesn't know how to carry a …
/r/seduction23/07/13 04:38 PM
4

Or you could be, y'know, quick on your feet. A lot of times it doesn't matter what you say in response. It's just how quickly you respond and with what level of confidence. Being good with improv can certainly help you with quick quips and witty sayings; you do NOT have to have a bank of them memorized for every situation.
/r/seduction23/07/13 04:36 PM
23

This is a far better FR than most guys'. This goes into detail, she explains what she likes and why, in a way that is legit and makes sense. While I agree that a lot of the time, posts from girls don't outline anything at all that we haven't already heard a hundred times, but lately I've seen very, very little in terms of outer game and technique. When was the last time you heard anybody talk about The Claw? In a way, this post read a bit to me like a Goofus & Gallant cartoon, where one guy mana…
/r/seduction23/07/13 12:57 AM
5

Why are you telling girls your name is curveball?
/r/seduction22/07/13 07:12 PM
9

Yes. He's just saying that when you say a line like that, you do not let her see you sweat while you're waiting (what will probably be several seconds) for her to respond.
/r/seduction13/07/13 08:19 PM
11

Yeah, because my idea of a great lay is somebody that I have absolutely no chemistry with...
/r/seduction07/07/13 07:28 AM
15

If there's no chemistry, that should mean that you are just as meh about it as she is. Why would you continue bothering to make something happen when it's not? You don't feel anything when you kiss her, that's a pretty good reason to stop seeing somebody in my book.
/r/seduction07/07/13 06:45 AM
1

I am good at tons of stuff. That does not equal confidence. If anything it diminishes it. That makes less than no sense to me. Confidence is being secure in the knowledge that you have things to offer. Being good at stuff is what makes you confident in the first place—the security that comes with knowing how to handle things.
/r/seduction03/07/13 10:56 PM
1

What makes you think I'm faking confidence? I'm smart, funny, a good musician, a good photographer, I'm good in bed... All of these things are qualities that make me confident in who I am. The fact that I'm fat doesn't have much to do with my confidence level, or at least not nearly as much as all the other things in my life I have going for me. So yeah, you seem to be awfully negative about life, which, if you ask me, is probably something that women can see pretty well. But yeah, they're shall…
/r/seduction03/07/13 06:36 PM
1

Hey, you can complain all you want about shy guys not getting girls, but I weigh 255 pounds and I manage to do it, so if I can, you can. I don't let the fact that I'm fat get in the way of me meeting girls. You can whine until you're blue in the face about how it's because you're shy and introverted, but in the end it's just an excuse for you not to have to make the effort. And yes, maybe the effort will be more because you're shy and introverted, but it is for me because I'm fat, too, so nut up…
/r/seduction03/07/13 06:24 PM
1

Not with that kind of attitude they don't.
/r/seduction03/07/13 06:01 PM
5

When I'm horny, I'm still not interested in fucking just any chick. I find one that I'm attracted to. How is this any different from a woman waiting to find the right guy before she does anything about it? You continue thinking the way you do and you're going to end up hating women.
/r/seduction03/07/13 03:07 PM
11

Probably because it's something they need to understand.
/r/seduction02/07/13 02:49 PM
1

My point was that some nouns are worse than some adjectives. "Japs" would have been plenty sufficient as a racial slur, so let's take the n-word out of the equation altogether. Lots of people don't even realize that "Japs" is a racial slur in the first place. They think it's a perfectly acceptable word to use (it's not, trust me: I come from Japanese-American heritage). Likewise, many people think that "gays" is a perfectly acceptable word to use. It's not. Tis just the way it is.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:11 AM
2

Yes, "gay people" is very different from "gays," just like "Japanese people" is very different from "Japs" or "black people" is very different from "niggers." It just is. Derogatory words are used everywhere. I'm trying to prevent people from using them unknowingly, and as OP has said, English is not OP's first language, so I imagine OP is grateful to me for pointing this out.
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:43 AM
3

"Ugly and fat girls" is still a better phrase to use than "fatties" or "uglies". Whether you want to admit it or not, using a noun like "gays" to describe "gay people" is more insensitive. That's just the way the English language works. I wasn't faulting OP for using it; I was truly giving a language note.
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:24 AM
-1

Just a note: Using the word "gays" to describe gay people is often considered insulting.
/r/seduction01/07/13 09:03 PM
2

Yes, that's what I mean. Since breasts generally sag a little, the breast folds over itself a little at the bottom, and because this skin isn't usually exposed to the air, it tends to be very sensitive (much like the insides of the elbows or knees).
/r/seduction24/06/13 10:00 PM
1

I don't know why it matters what other people think about my relationships with women. They can think whatever they want. Scrambling to try to correct them is a very reactive way to act. I'd just shrug it off and let them think what they want to think. It makes me seem more mysterious in their eyes, at any rate.
/r/seduction21/06/13 04:20 PM
4

Relevance doesn't have anything to do with it. They're blocking the video because it doesn't have any practical application to seduction. By watching Russell Brand, all you'll ever learn to be is Russell Brand.
/r/seduction19/06/13 12:45 PM
10

Where did you get the impression that seddit was a free country or that they couldn't do so? Their whole job is to censor.
/r/seduction19/06/13 12:43 PM
2

Being a value giver doesn't mean that you let people take advantage of you. If there are people in your life who do nothing but contribute negativity, while at the same time benefiting from your value-adding self, you're being taken advantage of. Relationships are two-way things.
/r/seduction18/06/13 07:49 PM
6

If that IS what he meant, then I think he needs to realize just how many noobs we have in this subreddit. In the last two years, we've gone from fewer than 30,000 readers to almost 130,000. And a vast majority of those noobs are of the sort who say things like "What does HB mean?" or "What's an FR?" I'm sure there's a good portion of people who read this subreddit, too, who think that the idea of buying a book is stupid and want to get all the information for free off the internet, when the real…
/r/seduction16/06/13 12:26 AM
25

Are you serious? It's still one of the absolute fundamentals of pickup.
/r/seduction15/06/13 06:10 PM
2

Of course you get it right when you can, but you also don't spend your time worrying about what you do if a girl says no to you.
/r/seduction15/06/13 01:14 PM
2

Then you leave her alone because she's not interested and you move on to another girl...? Having an abundance mindset means that you're not worried about a girl rejecting you.
/r/seduction15/06/13 06:21 AM
1

18 is actually the age of consent in 11 states. ;) But yes, it's 16 or 17 in FAR more states than it's 18. Some states are weird, though: in Connecticut, where I live, the age of consent is 16, but if I were to have sex with a 16 year old I could still be charged with a crime that's something kind of like corruption of a minor.
/r/seduction11/06/13 04:52 PM
2

The short answer is not really. You can't tell based on how a woman is dressed, how she acts, whether she goes home with you quickly or takes all night, etc. that she's safe or not.
/r/seduction11/06/13 04:03 PM
1

Weird, I dunno why I was thinking about sex instead of pictures. Yeah, ignore what I said, I'm a dumbass.
/r/seduction11/06/13 03:57 PM
2

"Hot Babe."
/r/seduction11/06/13 01:58 PM
2

After four years? Honestly, you're probably going to crash and burn if you try to change the relationship dynamic now. Most PUAs (myself included, though I'm loath to call myself a PUA) would tell you that the energy you'd expel trying to get this woman into bed would be FAR better spent on trying to find and bed new girls. You've got oneitis for this one and as nice as it would be to satisfy your curiosity about what it'd be like to have sex with her, even if you were successful it probably wou…
/r/seduction11/06/13 08:34 AM
1

I don't see where anything that I said has to do with hypocrisy. I'm just saying that you don't have to tell a girl every kiss or time you've been knuckle deep with another girl. I don't think you're leading a girl on at all by simply telling her that she's not the only one you're dating. She doesn't need to know how many other girls you're dating or under what circumstances; she just needs to know she's not the only one.
/r/seduction11/06/13 08:25 AM
1

The only way you're going to get ANYWHERE romantically with her is if you risk losing the friendship. That's just the way of it. You literally cannot have it both ways. There's no true way to make a move on her without risking the friendship disappearing, or at the very least, it's going to change some... or a lot.
/r/seduction11/06/13 08:14 AM
1

To be fair, sakeuon didn't say anything about religion, and there could be lots of "moral" reasons that a person wouldn't want to drink that don't have to do with religion. I'd actually be one of the first to point out to a religious person that Jesus obviously didn't have a problem with people drinking or even getting drunk, since in the incident in the Bible where he turned water into wine, the whole reason he did it was because the guests had already drunk all of the existing wine and were al…
/r/seduction11/06/13 07:25 AM
2

Three hours is PLENTY of time to get a kiss. Actually, I kissed a girl last night (well, okay, she kissed me, but I kissed her back afterward) in just about that amount of time. If you're talking to a girl and she seems interested in what you're saying, it's really not difficult at all to transition into a sexualized conversation. I mean, you can take just about anything somebody says and turn it into a that's-what-she-said joke, and from there you can springboard to almost any topic you want th…
/r/seduction11/06/13 07:03 AM
1

I think ultimately, we should respect that somebody doesn't want to drink regardless of their reason. I know a guy who doesn't drink just because there are lots of drunks in his family and he doesn't like the idea of alcohol. I think the correct answer is really that it doesn't matter whether you drink or not. If you tell people you don't drink, they'll respect that. I've spent a LOT of time in bars in my day, and I've never once seen an issue where somebody gets disrespected because he or she c…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:50 AM
2

Think of random girls the same as you would your friends. You're freezing up because you're scared of what they're going to think of you and how stupid your conversation skills are, so you get performance anxiety. The trick is to realize that this random girl will never see you again unless you get her number, so what the fuck difference does it make WHAT you say to her? Talk about the NSA, talk about the cost of tea in China, talk about how much you love her fucking Crocs—who cares? It doesn't …
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:46 AM
1

How fast are you talking here? Like within ten seconds? A minute? Ten minutes? RSDTyler would probably tell you to just go for the caveman makeout if you really want to move fast, but those situations are probably limited to things like night clubs where girls are drinking a lot, dancing, and overall are just out to meet a guy. And if you're going to do that, you had better be fucking congruent, or you're going to crash and burn, hard. Any other situation requires you to have yourself calibrated…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:44 AM
4

You're obviously putting too much emphasis on whether you succeed or fail with a girl you're attracted to. If you like her, you're far more concerned with whether she likes you than you are with a girl you couldn't give a shit about. The trick is to stop giving a shit about ALL of the girls. Whether they like you or not is totally and completely irrelevant.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:41 AM
1

According to Mystery, there is nothing below an HB6. Every woman you're interested in is at least an HB6 or higher. However, I think it's all bullshit. When I write a field report, I never, ever use numbers to define a girl's attractiveness. Truth be told, it doesn't matter whether I think the girl's a six, an eight, or a ten, just that I find her attractive. Also, who's to say that my version of a nine isn't someone else's idea of a four? I think if she makes your dick hard, that's all that mat…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:40 AM
3

I feel like I should just be copying and pasting this sentiment into all of the posts in this thread, but you really can't let your desire to be liked affect your desire to be your own person. Risk is part of the game, and sometimes, you just don't get the girl. THAT'S OKAY. With great risk comes great reward (or great failure). If you're not willing to risk it, you're not ready to be with her in the first place.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:36 AM
2

Sorry, I was too busy being awesome out at the bar and texting a girl I'm totally going to fuck this weekend. I didn't start answering questions until I got back.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:33 AM
1

The short answer is do what you want to do. If you're changing your behavior because you don't want to risk a failure, you're already doing something wrong. If you want to go get another drink and you want her to come along so you can keep talking, just tell her "Come on, I need to get another drink." If you want to go talk to some friends because hey, that's what you feel like, then goddammit, go do that. If she's talking to another guy when you get back, then walk away and come back later. Ess…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:33 AM
2

Do a google search for the DiCarlo escalation ladder. It will show you step-by-step how kino works from the simplest touches (shaking a girl's hand, for example) all the way to putting your penis inside her vagina.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:30 AM
1

You want the girl to show interest to the point where she's putting herself out there for you and making the effort to contact you first. I'm guessing this is because you don't want to feel like an idiot by getting turned down if you show too much interest, so you want her to illustrate her interest in you so you know that she's into you. A lot of times, this just doesn't happen. Chanyourmind is right: she wants you to lead the interaction, so be the man and lead.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:28 AM
2

You're pretty much correct that most flakes are due to a girl's buying temperature being too low. It generally means that she hasn't invested enough into the guy to really bother with making the effort of responding. If you're really only able to talk to girls on buses, then you're in rough territory and you'll just need to accept that with any numbers game, you're going to get some winners and some losers. But it seems to me that you're probably making an excuse if you want me to believe that t…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:27 AM
1

Unless you have a really small dick (such that if a girl is blowing you she's tickling her nose on your short 'n curlies), most women don't give a shit how you manscape. It's certainly not going to affect whether you get laid or not. Basically, do what you want to do. I trim mine shorter most of the time just because I think everything looks nicer down there, but don't feel like you have to do that just because you think somebody else is going to like it better. Hell, some women like a hairy guy…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:24 AM
1

Honestly, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with acknowledging a bad situation. A lot of guys here would tell you "Fuck it, man, you need to let that shit roll off you!" but I really think that it's fine to go "Man, this is a shitty situation." The trick is that you simply can't let it affect you in the long term. As long as you're willing to get back on the horse and try again, and you're not tallying up your failures like they're some kind of cumulative description of your life, you're fine. It's oka…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:22 AM
1

This, a thousand times this. Once you realize that you should be doing things because you WANT to do them and not because you think it's what you're SUPPOSED to be doing, things become a lot easier. You ask questions because you want to know the answers. You say witty or stupid or crazy things because you feel like saying them. You go make a fool out of yourself on the dance floor because goddammit, you're having fun. And you DO NOT GIVE A SHIT whether a girl thinks it's attractive or not. You d…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:16 AM
5

The surefire way would be to hire a prostitute. But I'm assuming you're talking about a way that doesn't include paying for it. So I'm going to say that the best way for you to lose your virginity this year is to stop thinking of it as some kind of handicap and stop making sex such an important milestone in your life. If you love women, and can show them that, and honestly don't care whether you sleep with them or not, you're far more likely to get one into your bed. It's a weird dichotomy, but …
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:13 AM
3

Whoa. You should in no way assume that just because a girl has an STD that she's some kind of slut (not that I see anything wrong with girls who like sex, and you shouldn't either). Sometimes, it's just luck of the draw. Maybe her boyfriend cheated on her and she got herpes as a result. Maybe she just had a bad experience and luck wasn't on her side. You never know. The short answer is, you can't tell whether a girl is into you because of you or because she likes all sorts of guys. But the fact …
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:11 AM
2

I used to have this fear, the idea that somehow, showing interest in a girl was creepy. It's not. Get over it. Girls everywhere like to be told they're attractive, doesn't matter whether you're in high school or Kuala Lumpur. The real trick is doing it in a way that's not also telegraphing the message "...and I want to wear you as a hat." The solution is to treat it like your saying that she's attractive doesn't mean a damn thing to you, that it's just something you felt like saying. If you hone…
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:07 AM
3

Ooh, a City of Angels reference. Upvote for you, my friend. Though if she finds THAT reference interesting, your next logical step is obviously to tell her she's nothing without you. ;)
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:03 AM
1

I don't know what state you live in, but the fact is that the age of consent is below 18 in far more states than it isn't. Double check the age of consent laws in your state and make sure first that you can even run afoul of the law where you live before you worry about it.
/r/seduction11/06/13 06:00 AM
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Why the hell is this downvoted? We all know that we treat girls we're not attracted to differently than we treat girls we're attracted to. All StatisticsStudent is saying is that you need to treat a girl you're attracted to the same way you'd treat one you're not. If you're not TRYING to get a girl into bed, you're likely to be far more comfortable with how you interact with her, thus making it far more likely that you act in a manner that's congruent with your feelings and being much more genui…
/r/seduction11/06/13 05:56 AM
1

I'm sure it is. I'm just saying that even with something so simple, terminology can affect how you think about it. If you characterize it one way, your throught processes can go in one direction, whereas if you change your thinking even slightly, it can change how you characterize the whole scenario. Just food for thought, not a criticism.
/r/seduction11/06/13 05:49 AM
1

I dislike the characterization of pickup as a game where there are teams involved. The whole concept of "my team" vs. "her team" just makes the whole thing feel very adversarial. I prefer to think of pickup as a dance. I have steps that I have to do, she has steps that she has to do, and in the end if we both do our steps properly, something magical happens. There's an inherent back-and-forth involved that makes it fun, and you can sometimes throw in a little flair that will totally blow away th…
/r/seduction10/06/13 05:35 PM
4

Oh please. If you tell a girl that you're dating other women, she'll assume that you're fucking them as well. You don't have to spell out every sordid detail. And guess what? Some women are FINE with that. After all, you should never assume that you're the only guy SHE'S fucking, either.
/r/seduction10/06/13 05:31 PM
4

Friendly tip, you won't make good relationships by sticking currency down women's undergarments. a) Who says that he wants a relationship? b) Why can't you start a relationship with childish and fun behavior? It's long been stated that one of the best ways to get a girl into you is to treat her like you're in third grade—pull on her pigtails, tease her, call her names. It's one of the most classic ways that we as boys show girls that we like them. c) This space intentionally left blank.
/r/seduction09/06/13 09:40 PM
26

In today's society, people should assume that any relationship is not exclusive until the discussion has been had. That would solve a LOT of confusing problems.
/r/seduction05/06/13 07:31 PM
1

If you don't do PDA, then you isolate the girl outside the club, walk around a corner, and make out in the shadows. It's totally hot for the girl because she'll feel comfortable enough to do it because you're away from people, but will still feel kinda slutty because she's kissing you outside where you could be caught. Consequently, there's that "this is naughty" vibe that goes on and it totally ramps up the excitement. There you go, how to make out with a girl you just met without it being PDA.
/r/seduction05/06/13 12:36 AM
3

If it does, I'll tell you yesterday.
/r/seduction05/06/13 12:33 AM
-1

Fine then, I'll just suggest that they go to the regular website and read the sidebar on a computer. Those of us who have been here for awhile, read all of the material, and have absorbed it should not have to rehash simple definitions and classic routines just because somebody couldn't be bothered to read the material themselves.
/r/seduction04/06/13 01:11 AM
-1

It's not that I'm looking for an excuse, I go out all the time with friends and have been actively hanging out with women I'm interested in. You're right, this isn't an excuse. It's more that my social skills are lacking as a result of not having been engaged in as many social situations due to being introverted. THIS is. ;) So you work hard to get over that. And yeah, you expel energy in social situations whereas extroverts don't, but just because they come to it more naturally than you do does…
/r/seduction02/06/13 01:45 AM
4

Be SURE to tell them about your date and that you'd like to impress her. I remember reading stuff from bartenders and hostesses and the like who say that if you simply give them a bunch of money, they'll take it but will assume you're some dick who likes to throw money around. So make sure you mention about the date and how they'd be doing you a huge favor if they could help you impress her. They'll appreciate that you're going the extra mile and that you were thoughtful enough to bring it up to…
/r/seduction02/06/13 01:41 AM
1

You still have to have some semblance of game. No matter how horny a woman is, she still wants to at least go through the motions of getting picked up by a guy. Part of the whole dance of a pickup routine is helping to get rid of a girl's feelings of being a slut. A lot of the time—well, most of the time, I'd say—she needs that excuse to make it okay in her head. You can't just dispense with the pleasantries and get down to fucking, most of the time. TL;DR You still need to make it fun for her t…
/r/seduction30/05/13 09:38 PM
2

If you can't get laid at a comic convention, you can't get laid anywhere. Geek girls are all over the place and they get down. Note that I'm not necessarily talking about cosplayers, but there will be a TON of girls there. And if geeks are your thing (I have a soft spot for them myself), then it's essentially your pick of the litter if you can even remotely hold a conversation and get a vibe going.
/r/seduction30/05/13 03:49 PM
5

There's about a gazillion examples of "agree and amplify" on this subreddit. Do a search for that phrase or "shit tests" and you'll find plenty of information to help you.
/r/seduction28/05/13 07:30 AM
5

Your problem isn't (or at least, shouldn't be) with the fact that she ended it. It's that you didn't end it sooner. You knew that you were incompatible and I'm SURE you could sense where things were going, and you didn't end it back when you should have. You need to come to accept the fact that no matter how much you might like a girl, she's going to give into a relationship and she's going to take from a relationship, but in the end it should be about a 50/50 split. This girl was obviously taki…
/r/seduction25/05/13 01:49 AM
4

It's not at all broken English. It's a perfectly correct sentence.
/r/seduction20/05/13 03:06 AM
37

Yeah, see, here's the thing: That's not a bitch shield. That's just somebody being not interested. Bitch shields last for like ten seconds tops. It's just the default face/behavior women have when a guy walks up to them for the first time. A lot of times women don't even realize that they're doing it—it's just the way they act when first confronted with a new guy. It weeds out the ones who have zero confidence and get scared off easily. Don't confuse this for women who are actual bitches, or wom…
/r/seduction20/05/13 02:54 AM
2

Just because the girl is drunk doesn't mean you're taking advantage of her.
/r/seduction13/05/13 09:02 AM
0

Because everyone should be the same amount of drunk if they're going to hook up amirite?
/r/seduction13/05/13 01:34 AM
20

Short answer: No. Longer answer: Noooooo.
/r/seduction13/05/13 01:33 AM
1

I think she means a bouncy ball?
/r/seduction12/05/13 09:45 PM
28

It's like banks. They love to lend people money, but only if those people can prove they don't actually need the loan.
/r/seduction12/05/13 07:38 PM
8

The fact of the matter is that women often don't know exactly what makes them react. They know what they THINK they respond to, but what they ACTUALLY respond to is different. That's why it's (generally) not terribly wise to ask women how to pick up women. Sometimes they're more enlightened about themselves, but if women really responded to what they say they responded to, we wouldn't know so many girls who keep ending up with assholes and complaining about it.
/r/seduction12/05/13 07:35 PM
1

I can't give you an exact moment. There are some things you just have to feel out. You have to do it at some point while you're conversing with her, during the attraction stage (attraction->comfort->seduction) and before she's started to consider you boyfriend material. That's the best I can do.
/r/seduction12/05/13 05:06 PM
1

Okay, maybe "as early as possible" was the wrong thing to say. It's something you make sure she knows prior to intimate activity. In the Mystery Method, the idea is that she has to be able to disqualify you as possible "boyfriend material." The reason for this is because if she thinks you may be boyfriend material, she'll slow things down and refuse to sleep with you because she wants to make sure that you don't consider her to be slutty. If you can disqualify yourself as a possible mate, she'll…
/r/seduction12/05/13 08:10 AM
1

You have to ensure that she understands your side of things as early as possible. If at all possible, you have to know that she understands that you're not looking to make her a girlfriend before you ever have any kind of intimate relations with her at all.
/r/seduction12/05/13 07:17 AM
3

How to be honest? You make sure she knows your intentions. You make sure that you tell her you're not interested in a serious relationship and that you're dating other people. You make sure that you establish your boundaries with regard to things like randomly showing up at your place to surprise you (that's something girlfriends do). I'd say those are the three most important things: intentions, expectations and boundaries. If the two of you can be clear with each other about those things, it's…
/r/seduction12/05/13 02:40 AM
2

Uh, whut? I'm saying that if you're honest with her, you're not BEING immoral. The thing is, I get this feeling from you that seems to say that your definition of "immoral" is "I'm having sex with more than one girl at once," and that's a problem in and of itself.
/r/seduction12/05/13 01:24 AM
4

Uh, yeah, it's not immoral. At all. Promiscuity may violate some people's IDEAS of morals, but technically there's nothing immoral about it, assuming that you're honest and forthright about it. If the girl knows that you sleep with other women and is okay with it, whose morals are being violated, exactly?
/r/seduction11/05/13 06:35 PM
44

On the topic of breasts: Pull her shirt off and suck her nipples. Good advice but incomplete. There's a LOT more that a guy can do with breasts than just playing with the nipples, and I guarantee you, guys, that if you do things like kiss the entire breast, especially the underside (that little crease where the breast falls on itself is VERY sensitive because it doesn't often see the light of day), she will ADORE you. Sure, the nipple is probably the most sensitive part of the breast, but it's n…
/r/seduction07/05/13 07:44 PM
1

I mean, it's hard to judge since it's over the Internet, but I get the impression that these guys are getting super-defensive when it comes to responding to shit tests. Yeah, I think you're right. People in this sub are FAR too worried about shit tests, what constitutes shit tests, how to handle them, etc. The fact of the matter is that if you just stop caring about what other people think of you and how you can look best to them, you stop having to worry about whether they're shit-testing you.
/r/seduction04/05/13 02:38 AM
1

Thing is, whether she's actually giving you a shit test or not, reacting as if she is will get the same reaction, so you're better off treating it like it's a shit test than not. Basically, you can get away with treating everything like it's a joke quite easily, and she will like you more for it. Whether you want to do favors for her or not isn't the point.
/r/seduction03/05/13 06:04 PM
8

So she says no. Big deal. You say "Cool. I'll see you around," and you WALK AWAY. You've just let her know that you're interested in her and that's it, and there's nothing wrong with not wanting to settle for 'just friends.' If she says no, you walk away and go try again with another girl. There's always another girl.
/r/seduction01/05/13 09:03 PM
2

260 is pretty big for a guy no matter what his height. I'm 250 and 5'10" and I'm quite big.
/r/seduction22/04/13 05:19 AM
2

That's perfectly good English. You just don't know how to read, apparently.
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:23 PM
2

And "would have"
/r/seduction17/04/13 09:09 PM
3

I did a "I think I'm gonna kiss you right now" moment the other night, but I already knew she wanted me to, so that's a slightly difference scenario. Even still, I deliberately phrased it as something that was a foregone conclusion (I'm GOING to kiss you now) as opposed to asking for permission.
/r/seduction16/04/13 08:19 PM
4

Yawning has absolutely nothing to do with being tired.
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:43 AM
1

I hope you're not accusing me of roasting her. There were some godawful comments further down, and I hope you reported them just like we're supposed to...
/r/seduction10/04/13 04:00 PM
0

Why did you put "PUAs" in quotes, like it's not a real thing?
/r/seduction10/04/13 03:39 PM
11

I'm not saying this is really a bad field report as they go—it was fun to read and she writes well. But all she basically said was that the guy had a jawline that caught her eye and nice teeth, and she went in for the kill. I'm assuming that she's at least marginally attractive too, so what this FR says to me is "pretty guy and pretty girl meet up in bar and go home for a ONS." The thing is, pretty people hook up all the time together in just this manner. What makes a field report useful to a PU…
/r/seduction10/04/13 03:33 PM
2

In some ways, it would be worse than it is now—guys would be picking up the women they found hottest, and so would girls. Nothing in this field report says to me that the guy did anything other than being attractive. It appears it was his jawline, not his conversational ability, that got him laid.
/r/seduction10/04/13 03:28 PM
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I disagree, and that's being somebody who IS older than the vast majority of other sedditors. Good advice is good advice, and its source is irrelevant. You shouldn't ever assume something is better advice just because it comes from somebody with more experience or age. I'd say that unless it's directly relevant, there's no real need to include that information. I don't mention that I'm in my 30s in every post, only when it's necessary to provide.
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:03 PM
9

The fish analogy is always particularly grating, because fish aren't sentient beings with the same average mental capacity as the fisherman, and they don't know they're being fished for, making it completely contrary to the case of men and women. The analogy works in a metaphorical sense, though. When you ask women what they respond to, they will almost without fail list things that they would like to respond to. This is not the same as what they actually respond to. When you ask a girl what she…
/r/seduction09/04/13 07:50 PM
3

As usual, TofuTofu manages to distill it down into a simple bite. This whole thing reads like a justification for a man who is sexually frustrated. Yeah, I was getting a sour grapes vibe from it too.
/r/seduction09/04/13 05:11 PM
3

It's not about changing her so much as it is about being honest and straightforward. If you go forward with honesty, and it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out and you have to be okay with that. But if you mislead her in some effort to do what you think she wants, then it's just a recipe for disaster.
/r/seduction07/04/13 09:32 PM
6

With a clinger, it essentially just means being adamant about making sure she knows what you want out of the relationship (or non-relationship, if that's what you're going for). You just can't lead a girl like that on.
/r/seduction07/04/13 06:46 PM
1

Abraham Lincoln didn't get as much pussy as John Mayer did. Just sayin'. Maybe if he'd been a little more A-BRO-ham Lincoln, it would have worked out better for him.
/r/seduction07/04/13 06:38 PM
3

The point is that if he's NOT trying to be a jackass (i.e. he was just making a joke), that he needs to know it's not okay to do that. If he WAS being a jackass on purpose, then it's enough to simply stop hanging out with him, because you can't stop a jackass from being a jackass. You CAN turn an ignorant or uninformed-but-well-meaning guy into a better bro, though.
/r/seduction07/04/13 06:02 PM
22

He obviously needs to learn Bro Code™. You should chide him for being a douche, even accidentally, and remind him that doing anything to prevent a bro from scoring is heresy, and then stop hanging out with him.
/r/seduction06/04/13 11:41 PM
6

If that's all you're attracted to in a girl, I feel bad for you. If that were really all you needed in a girl, then you wouldn't ever have to even talk to them, you could just point them out in the bar and take them home without a word (assuming you didn't have to, y'know, seduce them). I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't want to at least find out if a girl can carry a conversation before you fucked her. The number of times a hot girl has turned me off by being uninteresting or vapid is …
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:19 PM
1

I'm in seddit because I want to get laid—which will hopefully lead to (eventually, I'm in no real hurry) finding some kind of long-term relationship and/or marriage. I'm 33 years old and it's getting to the point where I wouldn't mind settling down and having kids. The biological urge to pass on genes is just as strong in the male as it is in the female. Now, having said that, other people DO think about relationships, and so when I make a post in seddit, I take other people's wants and needs in…
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:12 PM
7

A girl being "super into you" is one thing. A girl outright propositioning a guy will most times scare him away. It CERTAINLY won't get him interested in a relationship with her, since he'll probably assume she's somebody who just sleeps with a lot of guys because of how forward she is.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:51 AM
3

I'm picturing you as a 50-year-old loser with a beer belly -- and yet, I can still name a few guys like that who are good with women. I'm nowhere near that. I'm 33, I'm 255 pounds (and 5'10"), and as far as the "insecure" part goes... well, that's the least impactful of the three for me. I'm very confident in who I am as a person, but my sticking point with women has always been in giving them the idea of me as a sexual person. Sexualizing the conversation has always been the part where I tend t…
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:49 AM
4

There is an excellent woman out there who goes by the handle "Hitori" who wrote a "playette" FAQ, which is a very analytical look at how women can attract men. I just read this, and I have to say that all of her points are SPOT. ON.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:24 AM
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Come on, this is not only untrue, it's just misleading. While it's true that a good physical appearance can be more of an advantage for a woman than it is for a man, it doesn't quite work that way. Looking good will draw a certain type of guy to you—namely a guy who is willing to approach a woman and go for the hunt. There are a lot of guys, namely geeks and more introverted types, who aren't as versed in approaching and conversing with a woman, who won't approach regardless of how good the girl…
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:16 AM
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The thing about this is that a lot of guys will take offense to a woman who comes into seddit and posts things like this: "As a woman, I've found that <insert a bunch of stuff that guys have already posted in seddit for years over and over>." I know it feels sexist to you, like, "oh, I'm getting downvoted because I'm a girl and I posted something in a men's-club setting," but it's actually the absolute opposite of sexism—sedditors will downvote stuff that's been played over and over again becaus…
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:13 AM
34

This is simply not something women can do. Guys joke about it all the time—"Man, all a girl has to do is say to a guy, 'Hey, wanna fuck tonight?' and he's ready"—but it's just not true. The truth of the matter is that most guys are absolutely scared away from a girl who's that forward, with the thinking that there's probably something really wrong with her if she has to be that direct in picking up a guy.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:09 AM
2

Tofu's overweight, Curveball's probably insecure, ThrowawayPUA's an older guy I'm all three! ;) And I still manage to get laid.
/r/seduction04/04/13 05:08 AM
19

If a girl tells you to stop, and then sends you another message a minute, or ten minutes, later, ESPECIALLY if she refers to something you said that she told you to fuck off about, she doesn't mean it. That's really the only way you have of gauging her true mindset with a text conversation like that. I can't tell you the number of times that I've made a comment to a girl and she's like "oh god shut up about that" and then immediately brings the same topic up again.
/r/seduction02/04/13 07:16 AM
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We don't judge. It was her choice to sleep with him; he didn't do anything except show interest. You can also see in the FR that she obviously had no problem with sleeping with OP. In short: You have NO idea of what kind of agreement may exist between this woman and her husband. It may be a totally open marriage, for all you know. They exist, and they exist in larger numbers than you might be aware of.
/r/seduction02/04/13 06:57 AM
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Ideally, you don't/won't have to remember any of it. The concept of absorbing and assimilating all of this stuff is that eventually, you will take the pieces you like from each of them and form your OWN game out of it. You're not an actor memorizing lines; that's a silly thing to do. But if instead, you take the concepts you learn and utilize them in such a way that you create your own thing, that's totally different, and has the benefit of being unique.
/r/seduction31/03/13 11:08 PM
41

Well, he's American, which for certain types of Japanese women is a HUGE positive.
/r/seduction30/03/13 01:23 PM
8

Why wouldn't she enjoy it? She got seduced like in the movies, she gets to tell her friends about this guy who almost literally swept her off her feet, and she doesn't have to feel guilty about it. ("He was just so smooth, it was like I didn't even have a choice in the matter!") The sex was obviously good and she wants to see him again. Doesn't sound selfish or one-sided to me in the slightest.
/r/seduction30/03/13 01:22 PM
1

As somebody who's been on seddit for a while now, I'll say this much: this isn't terribly uncommon for people who read seddit for awhile. A lot of people will start to read the things they see here, start to internalize the things they read and then will realize that they can only follow a written word so far. Then they'll leave for awhile, use what they've learned in the field, and finally come back and report their findings. And that's GREAT. It's VITALLY important that you take what you've le…
/r/seduction28/03/13 05:52 AM
2

This rule is actually no longer taught. There are more exceptions to the rule than actualyy fall under it. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duqlZXiIZqA
/r/seduction25/03/13 02:10 PM
1

Care to, y'know, elaborate a bit? If you're asking if it's possible for a girl who's your girlfriend to friendzone you? I don't see why not. Any girl can go from being attracted to you to only being attracted to your brain. If she doesn't find you physically attractive anymore, of course she could decide she only wants to be friends.
/r/seduction25/03/13 06:36 AM
1

You seem to be talking a lot in absolutes. Just because I choose not to analyze THIS moment doesn't mean that I haven't analyzed OTHER moments. It's not a thing where you either have to do it all the time or not at all; you can have a middle ground. I think you're calling TofuTofu out on something that doesn't deserve to be called out, and for a poor reason, too. But that's just my read of the situation.
/r/seduction25/03/13 01:52 AM
1

You were either ignorant to the part where I said sometimes or you just ignored it. Either way, you're trolling, since there's literally no way you can draw a connection between a conversation at a bar and the fucking Nazis.
/r/seduction25/03/13 01:17 AM
1

*Godwin's Law Alert*
/r/seduction25/03/13 12:42 AM
1

Why do I need to know WHY I'm enjoying myself? I know that the unexamined life isn't worth living and all that, but jesus, way to take the fun out of having fun.
/r/seduction25/03/13 12:41 AM
1

Only a fool has to analyze the history of every single thing. Sometimes, it's plenty good just to be in the moment.
/r/seduction25/03/13 12:39 AM
1

Also, what the holy fuck are you talking about regarding the causes of somebody's actions? When I do something, I don't need or care to analyze the chain of events that brought that change about. But that doesn't mean that I'm incapable of determining such a thing. If you want to spend a whole night navel-gazing because you need to know what the origin of your motives is, that's fine, but don't assume that other people give a shit about it or impose that impression on others because you think th…
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:32 PM
1

Yeah, because grownups can't EVER do things just because they're fun. Whatever.
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:29 PM
5

If you point to the bathroom and a girl follows you there, it's because she wants you to kiss her. She wouldn't have gone into a more private area with you if she didn't want you to escalate the interaction. Period, end of story. Girls don't go off with a guy they don't know without a reason. So the idea of you inviting a girl to go somewhere more private and then being afraid to kiss her at that point isn't really congruent with itself. She already gave you the go-ahead to kiss her by being wit…
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:26 PM
1

You say that with the assumption that TofuTofu did what he did with the intention of getting a 30-second makeout. I assure you that he didn't. If you'd read any of his material in the past, you would know that TofuTofu does things for one reason and one reason only: the lulz. He does shit because he enjoys it and that's the ONLY thing he cares about. If you think that's a waste of time, you're entitled to your opinion, but virtually nobody else here agrees with you.
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:14 PM
2

What can I say? I got game.
/r/seduction24/03/13 11:06 PM
2

I just had a conversation about this with a friend of mine recently. She was talking about all her guy friends and I said "You do know that they're all attracted to you, right?" She was shocked at this and told me that it wasn't true. I told her it absolutely was, and the reason I knew it was true was because I was attracted to her too. "Don't get me wrong, I'm not TRYING to have sex with you or anything," I said, "but if I were given the opportunity? I absolutely would." I think some guys think…
/r/seduction24/03/13 06:58 PM
1

Sure, and they're both right on interstate 91, so it's an easy drive. If I recall, though, the parking in New Haven isn't stellar.
/r/seduction24/03/13 02:24 AM
3

Yeah, man, Hartford is DEAD at night. Too many suits working for the insurance industry in Hartford, and they all live in the suburbs, so after 6pm Hartford just loses all its life. New Haven is MUCH better, given that it's where Yale is... LOTS of nightlife.
/r/seduction24/03/13 12:06 AM
3

Let's look at this from the other side. You invite a girl you just met to a bar. She agrees to go with you. You hang out a couple of times, but then she pulls away when you try to kiss her and she says that she only thinks of you as a friend. In response, you FLIP THE FUCK OUT and start screaming at her in the bar in front of everybody. And you think you're in the RIGHT for doing that? I don't care what ANYBODY tells you—no amount of PERCEIVED interest on somebody's part gives you the right to a…
/r/seduction23/03/13 07:12 PM
5

Man, you're still in Connecticut? Hit me up!
/r/seduction23/03/13 05:08 PM
9

Hanging out with somebody carries no implication of being sexually interested with them. Please. If we, as guys, were to even IMPLY this in the context of hanging out with a woman, we'd by accused of all sorts of awful things.
/r/seduction23/03/13 07:11 AM
2

I mean that complimenting somebody just because they complimented you is a bad policy to have. Compliments should be given out because they're deserved, not because you have to keep the scale even. It's generally considered beta behavior as well. You should give her a compliment because she's DONE something, not because the favor needs to be returned.
/r/seduction21/03/13 06:55 PM
3

We don't know anything about the details of this relationship, but let's look at a couple different variables, since you're trying to be smartass about it: They could be monogamous. That's absolutely cool, monogamy is great. But monogamy is not the same as oneitis. They could be non-exclusive, in which case either of them is totally cool with the other one fucking somebody else. OP could cheat on her. (If exclusive.) She could cheat on OP. (If exclusive.) They could break up and he could go fuck…
/r/seduction21/03/13 04:21 PM
4

She hasn't seen it yet, but if/when she does, she's not going to be disappointed. I wasn't kidding about making claims like that to a girl—you never know when a girl might demand proof, so if you're gonna say it, you'd better be able to back it up. Bear in mind that I'm not bragging or anything. For that matter, I wasn't bragging when I was telling her about it. The topic came up naturally out of the whole condom discussion and I realized I'd backed myself into a corner where I couldn't get out …
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:58 PM
2

Since when is having sex "hurting"?
/r/seduction21/03/13 03:02 PM
10

Have you ensured that this girl knows that you aren't interested in "anything serious" yet? If not, you should have done it before you started having sex with her. She needs to be told in no uncertain terms that you don't want anything exclusive, and if that means that she doesn't want to continue having sex with you, then so be it. If you're too scared to lose the pussy you HAVE for the pussy you MIGHT have in the future, then you aren't mature enough to be dating multiple women in the first pl…
/r/seduction21/03/13 05:50 AM
1

You had the right idea with the response you had. She reached out and fondled you before you'd established a good rapport with her, so telling her "Whoa, hands off the merchandise!" is actually a good thing to do (just imagine how she would react if you reached out and grabbed her by the tit and said "wow, you have great tits!"). It establishes with her that you don't just allow her to do whatever she wants until she's earned the privilege. If it were any other compliment, though, a simple "than…
/r/seduction21/03/13 05:45 AM
1

Complimenting her back when she hasn't earned it is the wrong way to go.
/r/seduction21/03/13 05:43 AM
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I disagree. Treating the situation like you know it's a metaphor is the wrong way to go, in my opinion. I would play totally dumb with the dad. "Wow, that's an amazing trophy. A twelve-pointer, huh? Do you have any others?" Don't treat it as anything but what it is, and if he then makes references to his daughter in relation to it so as to drive the point home, still play dumb. "Oh, she's amazing, I can't believe she agreed to go out with an idiot like me." Et cetera. Fathers are full of shit. Y…
/r/seduction21/03/13 05:41 AM
4

You've got to be kidding. If I were a guy trying to fake a video that made it looks like I was some master PUA, I wouldn't tell a girl to use a whole lot of IODs in her interaction with me and then make out with me. I'd use a whole lot of things that I could point out in the video as things that show how great I was as a PUA—"look how she leans into me here, etc."
/r/seduction20/03/13 08:04 PM
3

No, there's only one meaning of the term. Oneitis is the idea that you find a girl and she's the only one you think could satisfy your needs and desires. That this one girl is better than all the other three and a half billion women out there. Having oneitis is not being in love, and being in love is not having oneitis. Not by a long shot.
/r/seduction11/03/13 03:50 PM
2

But a good woman doesn't test you like that. The problem is that people view this kind of thing as a test. I flirt with EVERYBODY. Girls, guys... flirting is just one of those things that I do. It's not done as some kind of test to make sure that the girl I'm with is... I dunno. I just naturally have a flirtatious personality. If I'm with a girl and she flirts with other people, so what? I know she's coming home with me at the end of the night. I'm not threatened by her having fun with other peo…
/r/seduction10/03/13 09:08 PM
10

Practically every other post in askseddit is about this shit test or that shit test, or THINKING that something is a "shit test" even when it's not. People are too concerned over passing shit tests in general over there.
/r/seduction10/03/13 08:45 PM
4

It won't phase me Faze. ;)
/r/seduction10/03/13 08:44 PM
10

I think you should make it clear that you're not necessarily talking about the girl who might toss off a comment or two while having a first conversation with you, but rather the women who find it necessary to continually test you throughout the course of a relationship to figure out whether you've "still got it." Women who are always pushing the boundaries are tiresome and boring. But virtually every woman will do some kind of testing when she's first met a guy to find out what kind of backbone…
/r/seduction10/03/13 08:06 PM
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To be fair, there's nothing wrong with a quantity vs. quality argument. Some guys prefer it one way and some prefer it another—don't make a my-way-is-better thing. But those same guys still need to know when to walk away, whether they're on either side of that argument.
/r/seduction10/03/13 08:04 PM
4

For future reference, you can still get herpes even with a condom. It's one of the few STDs that isn't fully protected by condom use.
/r/seduction08/03/13 08:24 PM
2

I say just put them all in an array called girl[]. Then you can be involved with as few or as many as you feel like and you don't have to worry about which label they have to fit into.
/r/seduction07/03/13 08:23 AM
0

Why not just go out with both girls? Dating doesn't have to be an either/or thing. EDIT: I got downvoted for this? Have we become so white-knightey in this joint that we're not even allowed to advocate dating more than one girl?
/r/seduction07/03/13 08:14 AM
3

I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's very difficult to increase a girl's attraction level for you through text. If you get her number and you haven't built up any kind of attraction in person, then in most cases all you're doing by texting her is escorting yourself directly into the friend zone. If you think that texting can be a substitute for developing attraction and rapport by interacting with a girl in person, then you're sorely mistaken.
/r/seduction04/03/13 10:24 PM
1

It's that advice is subjective and people are different. Something that works for one person might not work for someone else and may actually decrease their success in some cases. There's a reason that questions relating to specific situations go in /r/askseddit. Seddit is for discussing general seduction philosophy. And in general seduction philsophy we talk about the things that will generally work for most people, especially when we're talking about the fundamentals of pickup theory. In that …
/r/seduction04/03/13 10:22 PM
2

The biggest problem is that with over a hundred thousand users, we can't stop the newbies and the white knights from downvoting good advice and upvoting things that make them feel better about being newbies and white knights. When somebody posts something that's wrong but makes a loser feel better about being a loser instead of making him want to change for the better, we can't do anything about that except report it to the mods, who, hopefully, are able to remove the posts.
/r/seduction04/03/13 10:20 PM
7

He said a SERIOUS contribution to seddit. One post is not a serious anything. Here's the thing: bitching about poor quality doesn't improve the quality. If you want better quality, then make something of substance and contribute. If you see bad advice, downvote and report it, and supply good advice of your own. You need to be the change you want to see in the subreddit. And yes, if you look at my comment and post history, you will see that I DO practice what I preach.
/r/seduction04/03/13 10:18 PM
6

The reason we advise that beginners don't text too much is because at the very beginning of a relationship, they tend to get too involved in developing a rapport with a girl when what they need to be developing with a girl is attraction, which is very, very hard to do over text. So what happens is, they start texting with a girl fifty times in a day and then they wonder why they get friendzoned so easily. So it's easier to tell them to focus on real-world interaction with a girl, where it's much…
/r/seduction04/03/13 10:14 PM
-1

*sigh* Actually, this COULD work, and here's why: It's a disqualifier. It forces her to go on the defensive and start giving you reasons why she's more worthy than you seem to think she is. There are probably better ways to put it than this, because it does indeed look like it'll have the effect of making her feel like a slut, but even in the situation Randian suggested, she'd probably immediately start qualifying herself to you.
/r/seduction03/03/13 06:24 PM
2

I'm failing to see how any of what I wrote in the previous message fits into the category of "actions affect[ing] other people." Asking for a phone number doesn't affect anybody in the slightest. I mean, I don't exactly think this is the best plan in the world, but guys that do it must do it for a reason. It's like email spam: if it didn't make them money, they wouldn't bother sending it out.
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:56 PM
13

In that case this trick can come off as creepy. Sure it can. But here's the thing that I think you're forgetting about guys who'll do something like this: THEY DON'T CARE. Let's say you pull this trick on twenty women in an afternoon. Eight girls think you're creepy, three have boyfriends, and another three don't give their numbers out to strangers. That leaves six women who would be willing to go ahead and put their number, and out of those six, maybe one or two will actually be willing to go o…
/r/seduction27/02/13 07:08 PM
5

The nonthinkingness isn't even as important as the realization that the worst that can happen to you is that a complete stranger doesn't want to talk to you. BIG. FUCKING. WHOOP. Guys who ask "What if she doesn't like me?" seem to forget that this person has absolutely ZERO impact on their lives. I have never once walked through the streets of downtown Manhattan looking at all the people and wonderered what they thought of me. If I talked to one of them in passing, whether it was a question I as…
/r/seduction26/02/13 09:05 AM
3

You're assuming that all people want lasting relationships. Some people are in this sub with the intention of finding a girlfriend or long term lover, while others are fine with playing the single life. You can't assume that what you want is what everyone else wants, too.
/r/seduction25/02/13 04:06 AM
4

I get what you're saying, but I meant more that when he walks into a bar he feels that he's being judged by people for walking in by himself, and I was just trying to impress upon him the fact that honestly, people couldn't give a shit about something like that.
/r/seduction23/02/13 08:27 AM
8

You ever try kissing a girl's collarbone, or the back of her neck, or (if you can get her topless) the small of her back? Jesus, man, those three spots ALONE could get me into a girl's pants if I sensually kissed them on my way down to her waistline. You just need to be able to pay a little more attention to what actually makes a girl respond. If all you ever pay attention to is her nipples, you're missing out on some AMAZING erogenous zones on the female body. I can rattle off several that I ca…
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:57 AM
1

You've given this WAY too much thought. ;)
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:53 AM
3

You know what? I'm a DECENT looking guy, and the only responses or messages I ever get on dating sites are from ugly girls. That's not a true cross section of reality, man. Women on dating sites will wait for a message from their ideal guy before they respond. You can't use that as a judgment of how good looking you are. Truth be told, I think you're intentionally being difficult here. You asked a question, we answered it, and yet you aren't willing to accept what we told you. Why ask the questi…
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:49 AM
4

Bars are no different than the other places you mentioned, though. They're just another place where people congregate. What I meant when I said "how do you think someone's supposed to meet people" was you have to go out to places where people are.
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:35 AM
2

Escalation is more than just touch. Don't make excuses—there are a lot of things you could do. Invite her to dance, isolate her, go out for a cigarette together, etc. Be creative.
/r/seduction22/02/13 09:14 PM
5

As for the too loud thing, one piece of advice that I'll give you is that you could wear earplugs. Believe it or not, they actually make it EASIER to hear people talking to you in a bar. Some girls will tease you for it (they do to me sometimes), but all you have to say is something like "Well, I'm a musician/music lover/whatever and I want to save my hearing. Also, it makes it easier to hear you over this noise." (Also, you can buy plugs that fit inside the ear canal enough that they're pretty …
/r/seduction22/02/13 09:03 PM
3

I go to bars by myself all the time. How do you think someone's supposed to meet people? You may feel like when you walk into a bar by yourself that people are judging you, but believe me when I tell you that nobody cares that much about a guy they've never seen before. You're probably not being noticed at ALL when you walk into a bar, and that's a good thing. The judgment you're feeling is only coming from you, not from anyone else. Get over it, get out there, and introduce yourself to people. …
/r/seduction22/02/13 08:13 PM
2

You can't expect a woman to make a first move, ever. You need to be the one who acts. The vast majority of women don't approach guys, period.
/r/seduction22/02/13 08:11 PM
1

Wait until they're gone. You can't even have the appearance of impropriety in a workplace environment. You could make a remark to them on their last day or something that you want to get together for drinks or whatever, but I wouldn't even bring up the idea until then.
/r/seduction22/02/13 08:10 PM
7

Fact of the matter is that you can't ever assume that a girl is with somebody else. You need to get her to tell you that. If you had escalated with her and she was with the other guy, she would have told you, at which time you can absolutely be cool about it. You're not homewrecking if you make a play for a girl with a boyfriend, only if you keep pushing the matter once she tells you she isn't interested. I'll reiterate that: You can't ever just assume that a girl has a boyfriend. Hell, if she s…
/r/seduction22/02/13 08:08 PM
2

I don't think it's a neg of any sort. It seems to me that the idea of a weekend girlfriend could work with anyone that you're only going to see over a short period of time. So it could work for conferences, high school reunions, things like that where you're only there for a couple of days and then you both go your separate ways.
/r/seduction22/02/13 02:24 PM
0

You're not wrong. Truth be told, I think the "weekend girlfriend" gambit would be a great one to try. It would only work in specific scenarios, but it could be really awesome if given the right one.
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:46 AM
1

My advice would be to give her the benefit of the doubt until she gives you a reason to think that she's flaking on you. At this point, there's no reason to assume otherwise until she actually starts being a flake.
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:52 AM
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You're putting way too much pressure on yourself. For starters, there are other girls out there and nothing says that THIS one is the one you HAVE to get to know. You've put her on a pedestal and you haven't even met her—so you've already established a power differential before you say your first words to her. You need to be willing to put yourself on more even footing. She's just a person, dude. She's just as insecure about herself as you are about yourself, and she poops just like you do. Stop…
/r/seduction19/02/13 07:42 PM
6

This is the danger of having a popular subreddit. The only thing we can do is downvote and report the comments that are unhelpful or damaging and move on.
/r/seduction19/02/13 07:38 PM
1

The sidebar is a standard part of any subreddit and it's not out of the realm of reality to expect that somebody know what it is and that there might be useful information in it. The fact that you're the one in a thousand who doesn't do things like everybody else doesn't mean we should have to accommodate you, it means you should be more willing to accommodate for us.
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:55 PM
0

Hey, I do my part. I just don't like hypocrites is all. The only thing I was butthurt about was you complaining but not being willing to do what's asked of you by the mods.
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:36 PM
1

I'm an AMOG? Wow, that's one thing I've never, ever been called. I was calling him out on his hypocrisy—he was whining about the problem but not DOING anything about it. Bitching and whining is pointless and does nothing to fix the problem, and only draws attention to yourself and not to the problem or a solution. You're making awfully big assumptions about me by calling me mean-spirited. I just don't like people who complain but don't do anything about it.
/r/seduction17/02/13 07:33 PM
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So you just whine about it instead of doing something, I get it. Nobody said you were responsible for reporting everything. There are a hundred thousand other people who read seddit that can also downvote and report. But don't go bitching about the attitude of the subreddit when you can have an impact on it and you instead just make excuses for your inability or lack of desire to help.
/r/seduction17/02/13 06:25 PM
1

I'm talking about hope in situations, not hope FOR the guy. In a lot of cases in askseddit, by the time a guy starts asking "is it too late for me with her?" the answer is almost always yes, which is why they're asking the question in the first place. I can see why you misunderstood me, as I wasn't very clear. But I wasn't talking about people, just situations.
/r/seduction17/02/13 06:21 PM
16

Do your duty: downvote and report those comments. If it's off topic or unhelpful, the mods will take care of it, but they can't be everywhere at once.
/r/seduction17/02/13 09:39 AM
6

The bigger problem is that what a lot of these guys need is a slap in the face. They need somebody to snap them out of whatever funk they're in to see that change needs to be made. I give a lot of tough love in /r/askseddit, and I feel that all of it is warranted. I don't think that telling a guy that he's screwed it up and there probably isn't any hope for him in that situation is what he wants to hear, but it's almost always what he needs to hear at that time.
/r/seduction17/02/13 09:36 AM
5

I agree. I can't remember the last time I started a conversation with something like "I thought you were really cute and I just had to come and tell you that." Direct approaches have the benefit of being direct, but they're also pretty blunt. Direct approach is like a club, whereas indirect approach is like a scalpel.
/r/seduction17/02/13 09:34 AM
2

Pathology, disorder, they're the same thing. I wasn't saying anything about women who do care. Obviously there ARE women who do care. It's the ones who DON'T care that I was addressing—you were saying that the only reason she wouldn't care would be if she had (as you say) a disorder or insecurity. Like there's no chance that a woman can not care AND be okay with it, without having a problem with her. And it's that, the idea that women can't be sexually free without having a disorder, that's miso…
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:54 PM
3

I don't see an ad hominem anywhere. I said your statement was misogynistic. Because you said that there's never a case that women are in it for the sex and cool with guys sleeping with other girls, and then you gave these reasons: If she doesn't care at all and is having sex because of some psychological disorder/insecurity, she'll do it for a while then leave. But if she does care, she is playing the laid-back approach to lure the guy in You wrote this as an either/or statement. If she doesn't …
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:00 PM
4

I don't think the behaviour of the men here is negative at all. I call it bad behavior when men are labeling women as screwed up in the head. As an aside; your brand of feminism doesn't mean shit when it's not the one lobbying for laws, so don't try that argument. Because I'm only allowed to have an opinion when it's a politically significant one...?
/r/seduction14/02/13 05:04 PM
4

I did read the link. And I don't believe that the stuff that was referenced in that article is an example of true feminism at all. I believe that the women at Feministing and Jezebel are bad representations of feminism. And by using them, you're making excuses for men's bad behavior by saying that women do it too, which is just as bad as one political party in Congress using bad political tactics and then defending by saying "the other guys did it when THEY were in power!"
/r/seduction14/02/13 04:18 PM
5

The women you're talking about are NOT feminists. And you're just making excuses for people hating on women.
/r/seduction14/02/13 03:49 PM
11

Typical misogyny. "Any woman who acts like this is either fucked in the head or biding her time before she can snatch a man up in her claws." Please don't feed this bullshit to the other sedditors.
/r/seduction14/02/13 02:26 PM
3

And if they answer question four with a lie, then you express surprise at how good they are at this game by saying something like, "Man, you're REALLY good at this, you've played this before, haven't you?" Usually, they'll say "No, this is my first time!" and that's when you've got them.
/r/seduction14/02/13 02:23 PM
2

I've found that super hot girls have never had to learn to really work on their conversation skills. They could talk about the Kardashians all night and most guys would put up with it because they're hot. Your problem is that you're focusing too much on their looks and not enough on other things. Instead of focusing on whether you're good enough for her, you should be asking yourself if you think she's good enough for you—if she's a boring conversationalist, how hard are you going to be willing …
/r/seduction07/02/13 03:12 AM
1

This is good, but taken too far makes you arrogant, or at least appear to be. Then don't think of it like that. Instead, think of it like "Is she going to be shallow and hard to converse with?" I ask myself that of EVERY girl I start to talk to—if I can't carry a conversation with her and get at least SOME ping that she's intelligent and witty, she becomes really boring to me and I don't want to have anything more to do with her. If I'm gonna have to work that hard at feigning interest in her lo…
/r/seduction07/02/13 03:09 AM
1

It's who it will show that information to WHEN it posts to your wall. If you select "Only Me," then when it posts to your wall it will be a private posting, meaning no other friends nor the public can see that post, only you.
/r/seduction07/02/13 02:28 AM
1

it kinda seems on the edge of cockyness if you can't handle the situation correctly What's wrong with cockiness? *shrug*
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:07 PM
4

doesn't the OP imply that the whole point of the thing is to create a feeling of 'jealousy' or 'pre-selection?' I think the concept of pre-selection is based more in competition than in jealousy. The two aren't terribly far apart, but there's enough of a distinction that I think it warrants mentioning.
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:05 PM
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It bothers me when people get jealous. To me, all it says is that you don't trust someone enough. I actually had a GF in high school get upset with me over the fact that I didn't get more jealous of her, and my response was "Well, I trust that you're not going to cheat on me, so why would it bother me if you spend time with other guys?" I'm confident enough in myself that I don't get threatened by other people. If she's going to cheat, she's going to cheat, and there's nothing I can do to stop i…
/r/seduction01/02/13 07:00 PM
1

Don't feed the trolls, guys; just hit the report link and leave it at that.
/r/seduction24/01/13 04:06 PM
32

Why waste your time when there was another one in the group who was more willing?
/r/seduction24/01/13 02:24 PM
1

Yeah, freenode is a big IRC network, it's definitely up. If it's telling you that you need to identify, your nick might be owned by somebody else. NickServ will enforce username "stealing" by changing your nick after a minute if you don't identify. But no, I'm an idiot: SASL is Simple Authentication and Security Layer. It sounds like it doesn't like the Android browser being used for this kind of connection. Try downloading an Android IRC program instead; that ought to work better.
/r/seduction23/01/13 03:23 PM
2

Can you elaborate what is meant by this? I think what it's saying is that any mind that can come up with a genuine problem can't also be the one that solves that problem because if it could, it wouldn't have a problem in the first place. It's a philosophical conundrum, it seems.
/r/seduction23/01/13 03:14 PM
2

You're deliberately assuming the worst from my remarks. The "mix of the same types of characteristics" means that we, as people, tend to be drawn to certain characteristics in people. Those can be looks, they can be personality traits, whatever. EVERY person is a mix of certain characteristics and traits, and the more you can see that those are simply markers that attract us to be people, the more we can look past them to what really matters—hence the comment about how individual women can be sp…
/r/seduction22/01/13 09:59 PM
1

That horrifies you? I was saying that putting women on a pedestal is something to be avoided because when you do that, you tend to assign all sorts of expectations on them that they don't deserve. Women, as a whole, are not special. They are just like we are, and to treat them as something other than that is unfair and sexist, and defeatist to boot. If you find that horrifying, then you really need to re-evaluate your stance on women's equality.
/r/seduction22/01/13 09:15 PM
1

That's actually NOT what he's saying at all. What he's saying is that he gets attached to EVERY girl he speaks to, regardless of whether he gets anything from them at all. In other words, even the girl he just says hi to while walking through the mall who turns away from him is just as much a hit to him as if he'd been dating her for six months and then she out of nowhere tells him that she just wants to be friends.
/r/seduction22/01/13 08:20 PM
1

I LOLed. Of course, I did say pickup FOR highschoolers and not pickup OF highschoolers. ;) On the other hand, the age of consent where I live is 16... Ugh. No. I can't even joke about that. *shudder*
/r/seduction22/01/13 02:30 PM
1

And here's where I know you're full of shit. You don't read this, you just like to come in this place and poo-poo what we do, or at least what you think we do. You call me out for my manipulation but if you had read any of my posts or comments you would know that what I advocate here is very little about manipulation and very much about cutting out all of the bullshit and politics between the genders and getting down to an honest conversation about what it is we want from each other. I'm done wi…
/r/seduction22/01/13 01:11 PM
2

Do you have a single instance you can point to where my advice is likely to lead to people suffering? Everything that I say here is geared toward helping people to foster better and more honest relationships with each other, whether those are short- or long-term relationships.
/r/seduction22/01/13 08:28 AM
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Give it time. That's really the only advice I can give that will mean anything. The more you do this, the more you'll begin to accept the fact that it's not as big a deal as your brain is making it out to be. Right now, and especially now because you've started seeing some level of success, you put too much importance on every interaction because you know that you could have good results from this one like you did that one a few days ago, and when you don't have those results you start to feel d…
/r/seduction22/01/13 06:19 AM
6

If you really think that, I imagine you must have some advice of your own that's better?
/r/seduction22/01/13 06:15 AM
2

"Well what are we doing if you're not going to be in a relationship with me?" question. How the fuck do you answer that? So you a) don't want a relationship with her, but b) do want to keep seeing her. If that's the case, then why not simply be honest with her? I find it's usually the best policy. Just tell her that you like spending time with her and you want to keep doing that, but that doesn't mean you necessarily think it needs to go anywhere and you're happy with it as it is. If she feels t…
/r/seduction22/01/13 05:50 AM
1

/r/highseddit What you're looking for?
/r/seduction22/01/13 05:17 AM
4

I feel like /r/seduction does not cater to the highschool crowd though. The reason for this is that most of us ARE out of high school. Unfortunately, seduction techniques aren't really that well suited for high school. Most of us would tell you that as a high schooler, you should focus your energies on creating a more well rounded social identity rather than on how to pick up women. Dating in high school is so vastly different than dating later in life. Now, having said that, /r/highseddit is a …
/r/seduction22/01/13 05:17 AM
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If a girl says something like "We only met a few days ago" then she's telling you she isn't interested. Nobody tells you to slow things down if she's interested in you. In this case, the fact that she had a boyfriend she didn't tell you about says that she was probably more interested in the attention.
/r/seduction22/01/13 05:12 AM
1

If she slept with him on the first date, he probably did. But that doesn't change the fact that she might have felt that way when he first approached. What her description does say is that she already was interested when he approached, which comes down to luck. If she hadn't been receptive even before he talked to her, the interaction might have gone differently.
/r/seduction21/01/13 05:28 PM
5

Other people have said it already, but I agree that the primary reason it doesn't work is because they get complimented on their looks all the time. This is the chief reason that negs were invented: they enable you to say something to a woman that catches her attention precisely because it's different from what they always tend to hear from guys. I like to adhere to this rule of thumb: treat beautiful women like they're smart and smart women like they're beautiful. It does wonders because it put…
/r/seduction20/01/13 09:50 PM
3

One alteration to this: Mystery's suggestion is that if she says "maybe," rather than just kissing her you say "let's find out then" before you kiss her. :)
/r/seduction15/01/13 06:10 PM
2

Yeah, how dare OP have a better idea of what she meant than you, who weren't there to begin with!
/r/seduction15/01/13 06:08 PM
3

For those lazy sedditors: http://i.imgur.com/vFBT8.jpg
/r/seduction15/01/13 04:58 PM
3

We all saw that duck meme yesterday amiright? Nope. I don't subscribe to adviceanimals (assuming that's what it was?)
/r/seduction15/01/13 02:26 PM
5

Seddit has a lot of guys who go abroad, so it's not too out of place to see field reports from exotic places. We have a number of guys in Japan and Korea and other south Asian locations, too. This is valuable information for guys who might decide they want to travel.
/r/seduction15/01/13 02:25 PM
1

My family is poor so I don't really think I have access to a therapist. If your family has health insurance, look into it. There are a LOT of ways that you can get the help you need, and that includes getting help from the state if need be and you don't have insurance. There are options, so don't be so defeatist without looking into them. Your guidance counselor at school can probably help you find what you need; that's what they're there for.
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:05 AM
1

There's a reason I said you should talk this over with a therapist. They're trained to deal with this kind of thing. We here? Not so much. I'd like to say that you can do it with daily affirmations and faking-it-til-you-make-it, but that isn't always the case. There's literally nothing I can say that's just going to flip a switch and make you realize that these idiots in a fucking high school mean nothing in the grand scheme of your life, but you just don't have the perspective yet. I mean, I'm …
/r/seduction15/01/13 03:48 AM
2

Beats the fuck out of me, I just do what I do. :)
/r/seduction14/01/13 11:03 PM
2

The point I'm trying to make is subtle. You are welcome to disagree. I am happy you are getting good results and helping people. I get it, really I do. I think it's fine that there's a difference of opinion, and I hope that you do understand (and I think you do) that I'm saying what I am because hopefully, when people read this thread, they'll see that there are a couple ways to look at it and draw their own conclusions that will work for them. I have absolutely nothing against you.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:57 PM
2

I get what you're saying, but you're also not the only one who's giving advice in seddit. I don't really know if "I don't have the time to give you in-depth advice so I'm just going to advise that you don't do the stuff that requires in-depth advice" is a good way to look at it. Either you're giving good advice or you're not. In the case of the OP you responded to, the fact that he felt like the girl led him on had nothing to do with pickup lingo and everything to do with the fact that he had se…
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:44 PM
3

That's why you help them start from the beginning with a healthy mindset. Telling them to avoid using a tool that's useful because they may misuse it is not as valuable as teaching them not to misuse it in the first place. EDIT: And as for the "not everyone is like me" thing... I dunno. I just don't think it's too much to treat people in this subreddit as intelligent and well adjusted men who can accept the idea of "it's important not to let yourself get jaded by this." I think it's good and sma…
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:35 PM
2

No one talks shit about me anymore but it still took a toll on me. Dude. Until you can come to the realization that what other people think about you simply doesn't matter, this will haunt the rest of your life. You want my honest advice? This is something you should talk to a therapist about. There's no shame in that, but you need to talk it through with somebody who is a professional if you can't force yourself to realize it and accept it for what it is. But the more you realize that other peo…
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:32 PM
3

So what you're saying is, you know you have chemistry with her? If you can feel that tension between the two of you, there are about a million ways you can do it. If you see each other a lot and you want to hang out with her, one idea right off the top of my head is that you simply walk up to her, grab her hand, and say under your breath "Come with me if you want to live!" Then whisk her away to grab coffee or something. If she's at all interested, she'll be intrigued by your clandestine antics …
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:29 PM
2

Drop any and all PUA lingo from your memory. It only makes you think of people as objects to be possessed and manipulated. This is pretty one-dimensional advice. I use PUA lingo and I don't think of women that way at all. I think better advice would be that people try to ensure that they're not losing their perspective when picking up women. PUA lingo is, like a lot of other things, a tool. It's not evil by itself; it's the intent behind it that matters.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:26 PM
1

Thing is, though, that a kick to the nuts can wind up costing you WAY more than a hundred bucks if something goes wrong. You can permanently injure yourself, and that's really not anything to joke about. Testicles are much more fragile than you might think, and we all laugh about the idea of a guy getting hit in the nuts, but as a guy who has a doctor in the family I think it would be a bad idea to recommend that any guy tries it deliberately.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:20 PM
2

There's no one answer to your question of what comes afterward. Some people are looking for relationships, some aren't. The important thing is that you are straightforward and honest with a girl from the very beginning, with one exception, and that's that if you're looking for a relationship, you still tell the girl you aren't. Why? Because when a girl thinks you're looking for a relationship, she'll deliberately slow things down because she doesn't want to "screw it up". And when she slows it d…
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:01 PM
1

Hey, I'm not the representative of the old-curmudgeonly-sedditors group here. You're preaching to the choir—I already said that I don't have a problem with this post. Fact of the matter is you're just gonna have to get used to people who act like that. You can downvote them (though I only think you should do that if their comments don't contribute to the conversation, not just because you don't like what they say), but they're going to be part of this community no matter what.
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:59 PM
1

You make it sound like THIS post doesn't have a lot of upvotes. You're absolutely right, it would be upvoted a lot, but the same people who are complaining in this post would be complaining in that one too. A lot of the old-hat sedditors get really curmudgeonly about the lack of new content in seddit.
/r/seduction13/01/13 07:07 PM
7

Some things are worth mentioning more than once. ;)
/r/seduction13/01/13 03:35 AM
13

Stop going all "nanana, you're a girl, I can't hear you" and just explain about the ones you don't agree with. It's not about that at all. It's that if it were a guy who posted this same information, we wouldn't be impressed by it in the slightest. It's all shit we've heard before. So in the truest sense, the people who are complaining about this post are being more fair to her and her gender than the people who are pandering by saying "oh, this is really great stuff." EDIT: I want to point out …
/r/seduction12/01/13 07:17 PM
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The biggest problem is that too many people—OP included—don't understand what negging actually is. Dirt under the fingernails is a perfect one, because it doesn't say anything about her specifically, it's just an observation that gets her off base a little bit.
/r/seduction12/01/13 07:15 PM
1

It's when they stop texting you that you have to worry. I would suggest that as long as she's trying to contact you, you're at least in some sort of good shape. If you're doing your job and making sure she knows that you're not letting her friendzone you (you've made it clear that you're interested, right? right?), then her continuing to talk to you can only be a good sign.
/r/seduction11/01/13 08:25 PM
0

I really don't understand why so many people are taking this personally. You and a couple other people in this thread are treating me like I called your momma names or something.
/r/seduction11/01/13 02:43 PM
1

I will point out that nothing I said was a "universal impossibility." I made sure to specify "in most cases," and in the comments I fully elaborated. But sure, tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, even though seddit mods have commented in this post to support what I'm saying, as well as the fact that the theory I'm trying to espouse being supported by a number of leading PUA experts out there. But sure, if your own personal experience trumps what I'm saying, I'd love to see what evidence…
/r/seduction11/01/13 06:56 AM
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Oh, I see. You're a troll; I should have known. Silly me for responding.
/r/seduction11/01/13 12:50 AM
2

Establishing rapport is great—once you've already established attraction. I almost never talk on the phone to any woman and almost all of my communication is done through texting. But to establish and increase attraction levels? Face to face, all the way.
/r/seduction11/01/13 12:43 AM
1

Do not EVER presume to speak for me. You don't know anything about my intents. I have no desire whatsoever to "only" sleep with women, but that's not to say that I don't want to sleep with women. The fact of the matter is that sleeping with a woman early vastly increases the chances of starting a relationship with that woman, so yes, it's in your best interest to sleep with a woman sooner rather than later, even if your only intent is to get a girlfriend. But don't even begin to think that you k…
/r/seduction11/01/13 12:39 AM
1

I don't think it's irresponsible or unrealistic to suggest that pickup newbies get good with the basics before trying a varsity-level technique like trying to increase attraction through texting. This is the type of thing that even the best pickup artists will avoid unless they have to—why would we suggest that newbies wade into the endless bramble that is risking the friend zone just so you don't have to see a girl in person?
/r/seduction10/01/13 09:47 PM
2

I'll tell you it does work, but it's hard. Sure it can. Just like guys can get out of the friend zone, but we don't recommend that they even try, and that it's far easier to spend that same amount of energy on going out and meeting other girls, rather than trying so hard to convert a friend into a sexual partner.
/r/seduction10/01/13 09:40 PM
1

We in seddit are in the business of teaching people how best to seduce. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people who use texting as a seduction technique are going to fail at it no matter how good they are, especially if they're doing it to the exclusion of other pickup techniques. The worst thing you could do in this subreddit is to let somebody believe that texting is as good as personal interaction. What's more, I don't think anybody, even you, is suggesting that guys spend …
/r/seduction10/01/13 09:33 PM
2

I disagree. Especially for the vast majority of the more than 100,000 people in this subreddit, encouraging them to spend more effort on personal interaction instead of letting them falsely believe that they can do all of their pickup from the comfort of home is hardly small minded. Considering that they don't have the skills or knowledge to be able to successfully combat the friend zone via texting, a post like this does them far more good than bad.
/r/seduction10/01/13 09:20 PM
1

It's not the texting her that's the problem. I don't see a problem with texting to set up a date—it's texting just to converse with her that's the problem.
/r/seduction10/01/13 06:52 PM
18

Texting is comfort building. You're absolutely right. But building comfort without first building attraction is a surefire way to end up in the friend zone. There has to be a certain level of attraction before you're able to build comfort. If that level of attraction is already there, it's possible to lower that level a bit with texting without removing it completely, as long as you can also continue to build attraction in person. EDIT: Also, bear in mind that I did say "in most cases." It's als…
/r/seduction10/01/13 06:29 PM
0

BUT PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF BROS EVERYWHERE, CAN PEOPLE ON SEDDIT STAY AWAY FROM GIRLS WITH BOYFRIENDS, ESPECIALLY THOSE GIRLS THAT TRY TO REMAIN FAITHFUL. You're probably the kind of guy who believes the kid who goes "Oh yeah, I've got a girlfriend, she lives in Canada." ;) A girl who says "I've got a boyfriend back home" and then lets you kiss her either doesn't have a boyfriend back home or doesn't care about him. Either way, it's not YOUR concern.
/r/seduction10/01/13 06:06 PM
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Don't dismiss a female opinion. We JUST had a thread the other day talking about this—/r/seduction is exactly the kind of place where saying "as a girl" can be a valuable piece of information.
/r/seduction03/01/13 04:42 PM
4

My moral bearings are fine. I don't cheat. But I don't judge others who do, because in the end it doesn't mean shit.
/r/seduction01/01/13 05:57 PM
3

Don't even begin to equate cheating on a boyfriend with a crime. All that does is show how much of an overreaction you're having.
/r/seduction01/01/13 05:49 PM
9

It was her choice to cheat. Was he complicit? Sure, but he doesn't know this boyfriend and he certainly doesn't owe him anything. We in /r/seduction give pickup advice. We're not the boyfriend police. Stop white knighting. If she didn't want to cheat on her boyfriend, she didn't have to. It's not OP's responsibility to make sure that everybody is on the up and up.
/r/seduction01/01/13 05:36 PM
8

*sigh* Yeah, because he's the ONLY one doing something wrong here. Like she didn't have any part in it.
/r/seduction01/01/13 08:36 AM
1

Get over it and learn the terminology.
/r/seduction01/01/13 08:35 AM
5

Still don't understand why guys are so afraid of pubic hair. I know I'm older, but man, if I encountered a true firecrotch in this day and age, I'd be all over that shit. Oh wait, I HAVE. :D Nothing like a hot redhead who isn't completely shaven.
/r/seduction01/01/13 01:03 AM
3

Oh, yeah, it's a fairly common name in English speaking countries. (It's also the name of one of the US states.)
/r/seduction01/01/13 12:35 AM
7

I just want to point out that he wasn't negging you, he was just being a huge twat.
/r/seduction01/01/13 12:04 AM
2

I'm assuming it was maybe Virginia?
/r/seduction31/12/12 11:45 PM
3

There is a difference, too, between talking about sex and dirty talk. The first is done so that the girl begins to associate you with sex in general, to help her start thinking about you as a sexual being. The second is done ideally to get a girl into the mood or make her feel naughty, but has to be very well calibrated for the particular girl and particular scenario. I was talking about the former, not the latter.
/r/seduction30/12/12 09:43 PM
4

*sigh* Sure. But let's make an excuse for every contingency out there and thus be afraid to ever try anything risky for fear of offending someone. The whole point of being confident in yourself and therefore "alpha" or whatever you want to call it, is that you don't allow somebody else's opinion of you to affect what you do. You are confident in who you are and if somebody else doesn't like it, that doesn't matter to you. You know you're a good person, funny, smart, and engaging. Talking about s…
/r/seduction30/12/12 09:16 PM
3

If she's into you, then she'll like hearing it.
/r/seduction30/12/12 07:19 PM
4

By TofuTofu's own admission, he's not the best looking guy and he's out of shape. EDIT: As for the "It's not going to happen" look, it could be that you simply aren't hooking her enough before you bring it in? Bringing up sex with a girl who isn't interested is likely to end in problems. Or it could be that you aren't being confident enough about it. If you worry about how a girl is going to react to you, you're going to have problems—nonreactiveness is key.
/r/seduction30/12/12 02:36 AM
1

It bears pointing out that this could easily be a calibration problem in itself. I would think that a girl would tend to be more offended when you bring up sex if she doesn't feel attracted or have enough comfort with you in order to talk about a subject like that. So it could simply be that asad16 hasn't built up enough foundation to talk about sex with the girl yet.
/r/seduction30/12/12 02:34 AM
6

If you have a key that can open any lock, that's a fucking AWESOME key. But if you have a lock that will allow any key to open it, that's a shit lock. The analogy, of course, is that guys are keys and women are locks.
/r/seduction30/12/12 01:09 AM
7

its amazing how many parts of the pickup community dont agree. But, but... keys! and locks! I fucking hate that argument. It's the worst kind of misogyny.
/r/seduction29/12/12 08:16 PM
7

If you're still in the New Haven area, we HAVE to hang out.
/r/seduction29/12/12 07:12 PM
1

Unfortunately, no, not even here in seddit. I've seen posts by guys who are super excited because a girl asked for his number—not realizing, of course, just how meaningless that is.
/r/seduction29/12/12 04:13 PM
15

Whatever you do, you don't give her an answer of any sort. You can choose to give her a totally vague answer ("I dunno, it's just nice that we're just friends"), which will just reinforce her curiosity; or you can choose to ignore it altogether and change the subject, much like you would for a shit test. The idea is to get her thinking about why you think she's "only" good enough to be a friend and not more, which will get her to start thinking about the two of you together, etc.
/r/seduction28/12/12 06:24 PM
4

Yeah, God forbid we might have to spend five whole minutes reading something.
/r/seduction28/12/12 04:53 PM
3

If I had to boil the concept of inner game down into a single thing, it would be this: You have everything you need, and thus everything else you get is gravy. If you can keep that idea in your head at all times, you'd be amazed at the things you can achieve. When you don't NEED anything, nothing is important enough to get worried about, but everything is worth shooting for.
/r/seduction25/12/12 08:14 PM
2

If you want to turn the "argument" into something more fun before it gets boring, start asking what she'll give you for the glowstick. Or say you'll trade it for a kiss/boob-grab/blowjob/whatever. (What, exactly, you're willing to demand from her depends on how big your testicles are.)
/r/seduction25/12/12 08:11 PM
1

If a girl were to say that to me, I'd say "All right, no problem" and turn away from her. It's a perfect opportunity for push/pull. You turn away and start talking to the other girl next to you and the next thing you know, the first girl is scrambling for your attention again. Don't let a girl get the upper hand on you—you don't need to be talking to her in the first place, so why would you let her dictate the terms of when and how you get to talk to her?
/r/seduction25/12/12 08:07 PM
2

Fear of rejection is more aptly considered a phobia, because there's no logical basis behind it. But I just want to point out to you that in an ideal world, if you were a true pickup artist, the idea of some girl you've never met not liking you would be a ludicrous one. Let's say you go to a club and you come across a girl you think is cute. You go and talk to her and you don't hit it off. You know how many times you'll see her again in your life? (Hint: The answer is very close to zero.) Anothe…
/r/seduction25/12/12 08:05 PM
1

Have you considered going to see a doctor? Being tired literally all the time is a classic symptom of a sleep disorder. If you've got sleep apnea, you could literally be getting almost no sleep every night and not be aware of it. Go talk to your doctor about it, just bring it up as simply as that: "Doc, I don't understand why, but I'm tired ALL the time." Also, coffee will NOT keep you awake, believe it or not. It can actually make you crash even worse when the caffeine leaves your system.
/r/seduction25/12/12 08:00 PM
1

The problem is that people use IOIs as a should-I-or-shouldn't-I thing. They see a cute girl, she glances over at them, and they aren't sure if they should go talk to her or not. Nobody is advocating plowing through a scenario with a girl when it's obvious the girl isn't interested. Being observant is important. What's NOT important is basing every action you do on what you think the girl wants you to do. Doing what YOU want is far more important, because you don't place your validation on someb…
/r/seduction25/12/12 07:57 PM
1

Asking women how to attract women is never a good idea, because what they THINK will attract them and what ACTUALLY attracts them are different things.
/r/seduction25/12/12 07:54 PM
2

If you don't have any passions in life, it will telegraph itself to other people as being uninterested. There has to be something that gets your gears going. Women will be less likely to engage with somebody who doesn't seem engaged.
/r/seduction25/12/12 07:53 PM
1

Absolutely nothing. Ignore the question and change the subject as if you didn't even hear it.
/r/seduction25/12/12 07:44 PM
2

I'm sure she knew I was attracted to her on some level. Bear in mind that just because she SAYS she "didn't know" you were attracted to her, it doesn't mean she ACTUALLY didn't know. It's something they use to get you to slow down or stop what you're doing.
/r/seduction24/12/12 11:35 PM
20

If she punched you, she was giving you shit. Keep it going and step up the level of sexual tension in the things you say.
/r/seduction24/12/12 11:16 PM
14

In my experience, when a girl uses a line like that ("I didn't even know you were attracted to me!"), it's code for "I'm uncomfortable with you doing this." This can be for a couple reasons: 1) You could have started doing it out of nowhere, which can throw her off her preconceived notion of what you were to her already. This is not a good thing, because it means your words and your actions are not congruent with each other. 2) You could be friendzoned and she's lying to you about not knowing (b…
/r/seduction24/12/12 11:15 PM
54

Get her to realize that you like her, but you aren't going to play her games. Now is the perfect time for you to play the push/pull card with her: flirt with her incessantly for a minute, hold her hand or put your arm around her, etc., and then pull back and say "meh, that's all you get this time." Joke about how you were going to ask her out again but you decided against it—and then, when she inevitably asks why you decided against it, be incredibly vague as to the reason. Essentially, you idea…
/r/seduction24/12/12 11:10 PM
19

Yes, but in an ideal world you would have made the assumption that it was and talked to her anyway.
/r/seduction24/12/12 11:06 PM
1

If you really care that much about what strangers on the internet think of you, then that is why you fail.
/r/seduction23/12/12 08:25 AM
26

Yawn. This conversation comes up more and more as the community gets bigger, and it never gets any less pointless. Newsflash, kid: This is a group of people who have a goal of fucking girls, among other goals. Some people will always consider that creepy no matter what language we use. Also, at least in terms of "kino," the terminology has a more specific meaning than the typical ordinary word you might use in its stead. Using "kino" as an example: It's more than just touch. It's touch with a pu…
/r/seduction21/12/12 06:32 AM
5

Are you mocking this dude for using proper grammar?
/r/seduction21/12/12 06:10 AM
6

Yes, not "not crazy just 17", more like "crazy AND 17."
/r/seduction19/12/12 05:51 PM
11

The girl was obviously crazy, though. You can't assume that everybody's going to react in a crazy manner, but you also can't do anything about crazy bitches. That's just one of those unfortunate situations that you couldn't have done anything about in the first place.
/r/seduction19/12/12 05:11 PM
4

He's not saying that you should indiscriminately keep plowing no matter what signals you get. The guy in that episode of Blind Date was a fucking moron. What OP is saying, however, is that you shouldn't be afraid to make that move when it's time.
/r/seduction19/12/12 01:54 PM
2

You have oneitis. "This girl is special, she's different from the other ones, etc." You're just putting more significance on her than she deserves. The seduction community suggests that the cure for oneitis is to go out and fuck ten other women to reminds yourself that while girls may be different from one another, they aren't any more special than any others. You need to get your perspective back.
/r/seduction17/12/12 04:37 PM
3

I once sent a girl "I want to full-on tongue kiss your clitoris right now". I meant it almost as a joke (we were in the middle of sexting, but I wanted to say something that would make her laugh because hey, laughter is good in sex), but she thought it was the hottest thing ever.
/r/seduction15/12/12 08:15 PM
1

Why? He's already said he's 50 miles away from her. If they were going to do something in his town, would you suggest he drive 50 miles to pick her up, then drive back? That would mean he'd be driving a total of 200 miles to do the date. If she drives, that's only 100 miles driven.
/r/seduction15/12/12 07:34 AM
4

If they're anything like the theatre people I hung out with in college, they're gonna be HUGE partiers. Just have fun and enjoy the craziness, because there ain't NO party like a theatre party. Shit, even Lacrosse players are scared of theatre parties.
/r/seduction15/12/12 02:18 AM
1

Do I just keep engaging her until I am openly rejected or is it all right to bail if there doesn't seem to be any interest after opening? Depends on who's disinterested. If you open a girl and she doesn't hold your interest? By all means, bail the fuck out of there. You don't want to have to work to keep a conversation going, and there's nothing worse than a hot girl who can't hold a conversation going. If, on the other hand, you think YOU'RE the one who's being boring, well, that's another matt…
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:22 AM
3

The problem you've described boils down to telling vs. showing. You want to SHOW her your intent, but not TELL her your intent. You want to make her FEEL like you're interested without fawning all over her by telling her how hot she is. Most guys do this, you're right; they'll tell her how great she is over and over in the hopes that she'll be interested. HOW do you show her you're interested? Introduce sex into the discussion. You absolutely cannot convey sexual interest to her without making s…
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:21 AM
5

Not everything has to be a game. I actually disagree with GallentEffort quite a bit—you don't do things because you like her. You do things because you're a good guy. Not EVERYTHING has to be a tit-for-tat kind of thing, and you don't have to tease her every time she asks you to do something. It's not doing things for her that's the problem, it's when she demands that you do things for her or asks you to do them because she wants something from you. If she's in line at the cashier and needs to g…
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:15 AM
0

I think having known a girl for a few years as a friends and all of a sudden physically escalating like that in front of our friends would just be seen as weird. Repeat this mantra after me: It's only weird if I make it weird. You feel weird about it because you've liked her for forever. You feel like acting on those feelings now without warning her first is strange because it's akin to starting halfway through the race. But it's not like you're suddenly going to rip her clothes off and toss her…
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:09 AM
4

I would argue that you should make it blatantly obvious to her that you aren't looking for a relationship WELL before you first sleep with her. For one, it disqualifies you as a potential boyfriend, making it more likely for her to sleep with you quickly, and for another, it ensures that she doesn't feel like you lied to her afterward when she DOES decide to have sex with you.
/r/seduction15/12/12 01:03 AM
38

Careful. SAYING "My time is valuable" doesn't do anything to actually SHOW her that your time is valuable. It has the potential, especially in text, of coming across as quite pretentious.
/r/seduction15/12/12 12:58 AM
12

Well, if you ask a girl you just met "So am I going to need to grab a condom?" and she says "Nah, we don't need one," you don't want to be fucking her in the first place, so... win-win, as far as I'm concerned. ;)
/r/seduction14/12/12 01:42 PM
3

It doesn't add to the topic one bit and it creates the wrong atmosphere for the subreddit. It's absolutely reportable.
/r/seduction14/12/12 06:13 AM
2

Use the report link. It's what it's there for.
/r/seduction14/12/12 12:55 AM
10

All I hear is "blah blah blah I don't think women are capable of making their own decisions, we need to protect them from the big bad pickup artists."
/r/seduction13/12/12 01:17 PM
1

I dunno, remembering things that I talk about with people is just something I've always done well. It's one of those things that you just assume is the same thing everybody else does until you find out otherwise. I just never really gave it much thought. Also, I would think that the more you do it, the EASIER it becomes to recall, not harder, since you're building up the skill of recall.
/r/seduction13/12/12 11:01 AM
2

It's a quote from Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: Wallace Wells: If you want something bad, you have to fight for it. Step up your game, Scott. Break out the L-word. Scott Pilgrim: Lesbian? Wallace Wells: The other L-word. Scott Pilgrim: ...Lesbians? Then, later in the movie, he says to the girl he loves "I'm in lesbians with you," and she walks away, leaving him to realize what he said.
/r/seduction13/12/12 09:44 AM
13

Do you really not remember conversations that you have with people? I was never aware that this was a problem people had. Yeah, I'm sure that OP is paraphrasing a lot of the things that were said in this FR, but I don't doubt that they all actually happened. Of course I remember conversations that happened with romantic interests. As for the boyfriend thing: I waffle back and forth on this topic. On the one hand, I don't want to be the one "to blame" if somebody else's relationship fails. On the…
/r/seduction13/12/12 09:40 AM
5

Then don't use the word "make". Words have meaning, you know—in this case, your use of the verb "to make" was used in the context of "to compel," as in OP somehow forced the girl to cheat on her boyfriend through coercion or collusion. He didn't. He was more attractive to her than her abusive boyfriend back in China and as a result she made a conscious choice to cheat on her boyfriend. If, throughout your life, you're constantly making choices based on whether you will offend a single person out…
/r/seduction13/12/12 09:32 AM
15

Every girl wants to talk about the torrid whirlwind affair she had that ended too soon. It's classic romance novel. (Edit - Typo)
/r/seduction13/12/12 09:27 AM
1

I don't know where you're located, but seriously, if you can afford to go out to bars to meet women, you should be able to afford the $7 for a copy of the book. That's what I paid for a Kindle version of The Game. If you can't get the book where you are, that's one thing, but if it's the money, then you've got bigger problems...
/r/seduction12/12/12 06:26 PM
2

Ugh, clean that shit up, somebody could slip and fall.
/r/seduction11/12/12 10:36 PM
5

Don't be too hard on him, he's Scottish. They can barely English as it is.
/r/seduction10/12/12 06:59 PM
1

He secured a new wingwoman. That's a success.
/r/seduction10/12/12 06:52 PM
8

There was a point during the FR where I started to laugh every single time I saw the words "With benefits" written down. It eventually became one of those running gags that leaves you in stitches. If I got that feeling just from reading it, I'm assuming she was doing exactly the same thing. Once it becomes a successful joke, you can milk it until it stops being funny and then if you milk it even more after that, it becomes HILARIOUS. I think the white knights need to lighten up a bit and realize…
/r/seduction10/12/12 06:47 PM
1

You're forgetting that in the animal world, females have many partners over the course of their lifetime, with the exception of those species that mate for years/life. A male doesn't look at a female and turn his nose up because she's mated with other males before. So even though her "lock" has been used many times, the male doesn't give a shit. So your argument doesn't hold up.
/r/seduction09/12/12 06:14 PM
7

*yawn* Slut shaming. "Ugh, why would you want to start a relationship with somebody who'll go home with you on the first night?" You're implying that women who like to get laid aren't also worthwhile people. Stop it.
/r/seduction09/12/12 09:03 AM
3

The only thing that assigns meaning to the "logistics" of mating in human culture is societal pressure. Most of it is religiously based and centered around the idea that women should remain pure so we know that any children that result from mating are ours. It's bullshit in today's world. In the animal kingdom, slut shaming behavior doesn't exist. In short, it's patriarchal and it doesn't mean a damn thing. So yeah, you're assigning more importance to men than you are to women by adhering to thi…
/r/seduction09/12/12 01:52 AM
11

The key-lock metaphor is a horrible one, and it just shows that you're misogynistic.
/r/seduction08/12/12 11:18 PM
12

Nobody else seems to be taking this question seriously, so here's what I'm going to tell you: NEVER LET IT GET TO THE POINT THAT YOU NEED A HAIL MARY. You should never feel so desperate about a girl that you ever feel the need to say "Well, I've tried everything, so here's one last shot." If you have an abundance mentality, there's no way you'd ever try that many times to hook a girl. If she's not interested, you shouldn't be either, and you should let her go before it ever gets to that point.
/r/seduction08/12/12 11:13 PM
6

It's just horribly sex-negative and to add to it, something gives me the feeling that you wouldn't say the same of the guy in this situation.
/r/seduction08/12/12 11:11 PM
2

When I was in Driver's Ed class in high school, my teacher told me that you absolutely cannot assume that just because a person has a direction signal on that it means they're turning. A blinker means only two things: The car has directional signals. They work. Any other inferrences could get you in an accident, and it would be YOUR fault if you hit them because you thought they were turning. I think this scenario you've brought up is much the same. You're reading too much into it. Correlation d…
/r/seduction07/12/12 08:13 AM
0

All I took that to mean was that until she does let you inside her (to use the original verbage), she isn't worth it. You're right that not EVERY woman who would let you sleep with her is "worth it," but you're coming at it from the opposite side from the original question.
/r/seduction06/12/12 09:33 AM
0

No, I didn't. You were suggesting that the GP was missing the mark as far as seduction and relationships go. The fact of the matter is that apart from the rather crude way the GP stated it, that's exactly what master PUAs have suggested you do. So I'd say I knew exactly what you were suggesting and I was pointing out that he was actually saying things (albeit rather tactlessly) that mPUAs would say.
/r/seduction06/12/12 09:19 AM
0

I think I can speak for the seduction community at large I don't think you can. Mystery, for example, is pretty clear that you don't pay for a girl until she gives you a reason to—by his definition, that's after she sleeps with you. Up until that point, all you're doing is giving her the impression that you're paying her to spend time with you. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with that, but you do NOT speak for the seduction community at large and I would thank you not to try doing so without…
/r/seduction06/12/12 08:38 AM
1

Rule number one is not to apologize for yourself. You find the girl interesting? Sit next to her and engage. As IlikeSalmiakki said, trying to make things less awkward has the opposite result. This is primarily because you're essentially apologizing for your interest. You're trying to make it seem like you aren't threatening or a bother. Don't be that guy. Own your actions and your desire.
/r/seduction01/12/12 06:08 AM
4

Because you have to be friends with everyone who wants to be your friend? There's nothing at all wrong with having the attitude of "I'm only interested in you romantically." Why should you subvert your own desires to satisfy someone else's? That's not being an asshole; it's being forthright and honest.
/r/seduction29/11/12 04:54 AM
2

It wasn't about that, it was about him making the assertion that there was a scientific basis for it. Also, a placebo effect means that it won't be as likely to give similar results for everybody.
/r/seduction26/11/12 12:36 PM
2

For one, that's in "labratory" conditions, where at least there aren't all sorts of other scents competing with the scent of the guy. I'd also bet that the guys were told not to use any colognes or deodorants while they were wearing the shirts. Third, that's from wearing a single shirt over the course of several days, which I'm pretty sure most guys don't do. My original point still stands: pheremones probably don't hold much sway in the real world. I'd bet if they have any effect at all, you'd …
/r/seduction26/11/12 07:02 AM
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If you'd step back from trying to be snarky, you'd see that I'm simply saying that an increase of testosterone doesn't correlate at all to an increase in ABILITY TO PICK UP GIRLS. And pheremones? There is NO scientific proof that pheremones have ANY effect in today's society, on humans. Human beings' olfactory senses are nothing compared to what they used to be and if you add to that the fact that we pretty much cover up our scents with all sorts of perfumes and coverups (deodorant, laundry dete…
/r/seduction26/11/12 04:34 AM
6

There's no proof that shows that increased testosterone has any impact on a person's ability to pick up a girl. Increased sex drive doesn't mean you'll be any better at pickup. So the "it has some truth" statement is simply unprovable and thus unscientific.
/r/seduction26/11/12 04:12 AM
0

I've called girls "hon" ever since I was in college. It was one of the first things I did way back in the day to try and be a more flirty individual. Now I call girls hon all the time. Like most things, it's only weird if I make it weird. If you toss it off like you say it all the time and don't give any thought about it, the only people who think it's weird are people get offended because they think that it's sexist or something. But I've never once had anybody actually get upset at ME for sayi…
/r/seduction25/11/12 05:24 PM
2

Nah. You wouldn't ask this of a girl if you were truly seeking her opinion. You ask it because she realizes as soon as it comes out of your mouth that you're just being funny. It lightens the mood and gives her something to laugh about. It's not like any girl worth her salt would believe that you're actually trying to find out if she thinks you're cute so that you can go back to your friend and say "Yeah, you were right!"
/r/seduction24/11/12 08:20 AM
1

For starters, you're gonna have to learn to be able to look in the mirror and not hate what you see, and from the way you describe things, I get the impression that that's exactly what happens now. I'm sure you've heard of the serenity prayer. You know, "Lord, give me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." You have to be willing to accept and embrace the fact that you're not great looking. Once you can do…
/r/seduction24/11/12 12:24 AM
5

"What does he mean, I get to be his friend? I'm not good enough for more than that? Why doesn't he like me? Pfft. I'll show him." You'd be surprised at how often women's thought processes go like this.
/r/seduction21/11/12 06:10 PM
2

That's generally the way FMK is played anyway. You pick three different celebrities, so it'd go something like: "Fuck, marry, or kill: Bradley Cooper, Liam Neeson, and young Sean Connery."
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:07 AM
14

It's been around for decades. It's not a pickup game, it's just a game that happens to work for pickup.
/r/seduction18/11/12 12:06 AM
1

Ideally, you won't be responding immediately just because you're busy. But I suppose it might help if you think of it like this: We do things all the time to put our best foot forward with a girl so as not to sabotage things. This is just one of those things. It's no worse than telling a guy not to do too much talking, or not to talk too fast when having a conversation with a girl so that she doesn't think you're spastic; or making sure that you're giving the proper body language to her so that …
/r/seduction17/11/12 03:58 AM
1

Short answer is that no, you aren't. Longer answer: A lot of us would love to remove the "game" aspect of game from how we interact with women. But it doesn't really work like that. I think the bigger problem with you is that you assume that when a girl takes hours to respond, that it's because she's deliberately trying to play you. Why would you assume that? I know lots of people who take forever to respond to texts, and it's not because they aren't my friends or because they want some upper ha…
/r/seduction16/11/12 10:47 PM
1

Thanks for proving my fucking point. I was trying to show that a lot of guys think that looks matter, and they do, but not nearly as much as a guy might think, just like a penis size matters, but not nearly as much as a guy might think. Your post just goes to prove what I was saying to begin with: People have standers and personal preferences and it's going to differ from person to person. I'm assuming you meant "standards", but yes, that's exactly what I was saying. Standards and preferences di…
/r/seduction16/11/12 06:33 AM
2

I think that would be applying some external measure of success to what he's doing, when all that matters is that he's happy. Are you gonna tell a guy that he isn't really as happy as he thinks he is because he could be "doing better"? "Nah, dude, the girls you're fucking three times a week aren't as hot as they could be if you were just better looking, so you're obviously not that successful." Ridiculous, no?
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:36 AM
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The reason you feel that silences are awkward is because you're spending them trying to come up with something to say—and the longer you go without being able to find something to say, the more scared you feel that you're fucking the interaction up. If, instead, you don't care about the silence and you just... let it go on, you may find that it does some really interesting things with the sexual tension in the air. And if you're talking with a girl, it's kinda funny how if you just don't open yo…
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:30 AM
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But if you have a bad odor, a greasy haircut or a untrimmed beard...it really can make a difference to the selective choice of women. Sorry, but that falls under charisma, not looks. I would define charisma as: the things you DO with yourself that make you more attractive to other people. Untrimmed beard, greasy hair, bad odor—those are all things that can be changed for the better. Looks are the things you can't change about yourself: Height, nose size, underbite, etc. (Well, you can change som…
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:27 AM
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The problem isn't that some people do better because of how they look, the problem is that too many guys in this community use things like that as "reasons" for why they aren't successful and use them as excuses to not have to work hard at it because they think they'll never be successful—"bah, it doesn't matter, I'll never get laid because I'm not white and six feet tall." That's the problem I have with it.
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:16 AM
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I don't think any of that matters as long as you're happy, right? If guy #1 is happy with what he has, I don't think that doing "better" has anything to do with anything.
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:15 AM
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Define "better". Again, I ask exactly how successful a guy needs to be? If guy #1 is getting laid all he wants, does he NEED to be doing better?
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:04 AM
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The "that explains a lot" says to me that you were thinking "Oh, he must do better because he's white and tallish." So does that "pretty much what I expected" you wrote. And those are excuses.
/r/seduction16/11/12 02:02 AM
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Just like only guys with small dicks say that size doesn't matter? Well, I've got a big dick, and I'll tell you this: Size DOES matter, but not nearly as much as you think it does. And exactly the same goes for looks.
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:59 AM
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The second guy can't do much about his height, but he can certain change his weight and improve his odds. NOBODY in /r/seduction is suggesting that you don't have to improve yourself. In fact, I believe the common phrase around here is "be the best version of yourself," which—surprise—means that improving yourself through exercise and the like is exactly what you should be doing.
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:59 AM
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Exactly how successful does one need to be? Besides, you could make exactly the same point by saying that roommate #2 would be a lot more successful if he acted like roommate #1. In other words, "If guy A was more like guy B, he'd do better." You're not wrong. But in this specific case, roommate #1 is already being successful without having to look like roommate #2, so why would he need or want to change?
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:52 AM
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Sorry dude, but I read this and just think "yet another excuse."
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:49 AM
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If all a guy wants is to lay some strange in a string of one-night stands, then being supremely good looking will help, because it's easy for a hottie to go out and get laid by a woman who doesn't want anything more than pussy arm candy. But unless he has a stellar personality and is confident and competent, he'll never be able to keep a girl's interest beyond that first sex experience. You can take the most schlubbiest of schlubs, short, fat, balding, no chin, acne, whatever, and force him 4 or…
/r/seduction16/11/12 01:46 AM
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Having a big dick is only useful once you can actually get a girl into bed in the first place. It MAY be helpful if she tells her friends, too, but essentially, it gives a guy neither an advantage nor a disadvantage when it comes to picking up a woman. The only possible advantage it could give you when talking to women is giving you a little bump of confidence in knowing that you're toting around a log in your pants.
/r/seduction16/11/12 12:55 AM
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Years and years of experts who've been in the field would tell you otherwise. Not to mention the guys here who have been successful who would also tell you otherwise. But no, you continue to tell yourself that you're ugly and that's why you're not successful with women. Given a person with an attitude like that, it isn't surprising why they wouldn't have much success.
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:43 PM
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I have a friend who's Greek and has a huge nose. She's incredibly attractive (and to be fair, she knows it), but she feels that her nose is hideous. I tell her that the features that we hate the most about ourselves are usually the features that most draw people to us. I, for one, think her nose is very attractive. Anyway, what I'm saying is that the things that we can't fix (like teeth, for example, which are easily, if not cheaply, fixed) are things that we should embrace instead. They don't m…
/r/seduction15/11/12 11:38 PM
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The vast majority of being "ugly" is about how you do your hair, dress, and carry yourself.
/r/seduction15/11/12 10:54 PM
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And with that attitude, you'll never see it.
/r/seduction15/11/12 10:53 PM
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Yep. "I'm not like every other girl." Yes you are, that's why you made it a point to try and differentiate yourself. She's a flaker and she's giving excuses. The age gap is just one of them.
/r/seduction14/11/12 02:28 PM
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If I were in your shoes, I'd be VERY careful about what I said in the workplace, because sexual harrassment is no joke and even what you listed in your post here could easily be considered harrassment. First, I will say that we have a saying in English: "Don't shit where you eat." Generally speaking, this is an advisement against mixing certain aspects of your life with other aspects of your life. I would generally advise you against dating in the workplace. It can have disastrous effects. If yo…
/r/seduction10/11/12 07:32 AM
1

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "in a community," but if it's what I'm thinking it is, I'll just say that roommate booty is bad booty.
/r/seduction10/11/12 05:51 AM
2

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but if you've known a woman for "a year to several years," she almost definitely knows that you're interested already. Women are incredibly intuitive that way. Making a move now would probably result in the ever-so-common "Oh, I wouldn't want to hurt our friendship." That's not to say it's impossible to bust out of the friendzone, but I'll tell you the same thing I'd say to anybody else in your situation, which is that your efforts will reap far more rewa…
/r/seduction10/11/12 05:50 AM
2

Fronting a band is mega social proof. It gives you a huge amount of situational value to a woman, but that's only enough to get them interested in talking to you. You still need to be able to hold their interest, or that social proof will give you very little currency. I have a friend who is a phenomenal guitarist in a band, but whenever he'd talk to women after a show, he'd start rambling on about any topic she brought up that he'd be interested in, and she'd lose interest very quickly. So, lon…
/r/seduction10/11/12 05:47 AM
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In regard to the "most of them only want one thing" comment: It seems like it would be very difficult for you to make such a judgment call if you "have real problems meeting guys." If you've been with a bunch of guys who sleep with you once and then never call again, that's one thing, but don't go assuming that every guy just wants to have sex just because he actually wants to have sex. Everybody wants to have sex, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing they're looking for. It's a dangerous m…
/r/seduction10/11/12 05:34 AM
1

You should read up from Mystery on how to properly disqualify yourself. You should ideally be telling her you're not looking for anything serious WAY before she thinks about bringing you home—it's something you tell a girl as early as possible so she doesn't put you into the "potential boyfriend" category and slow things down.
/r/seduction09/11/12 01:57 AM
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I think I wanted to make things clear a little later Big mistake. Being clear about things beforehand is really the only way to make sure you're not accidentally misleading the girl. And if you think she'd invite you over just for tea, you're mistaken. Women don't invite guys over to their place just to hang.
/r/seduction08/11/12 08:50 PM
7

Huh?
/r/seduction06/11/12 05:53 PM
4

I bet thebayway doesn't see the distinction and doesn't care.
/r/seduction06/11/12 05:43 PM
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are they free? Are you kidding? No. Things like that aren't free and shouldn't be.
/r/seduction06/11/12 05:39 PM
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aka good looking guys Attractive guys. There is a difference.
/r/seduction01/11/12 07:39 PM
3

Probably the biggest thing you'll need to change is that you need to be more sexual. I don't mean dressing slutty or throwing yourself at a guy or anything like that, but if there's one common thing in a romantic-tinged interaction, it's that there's a sexual charge. Make suggestive comments, drop an innuendo here and there—give the guy a reason to think that you're imagining what he looks like naked. Something that clues him in to the idea that you want a sexual interaction with him. Without th…
/r/seduction01/11/12 12:16 AM
3

That's all well and good, but if sedditors don't police askseddit, it will simply get poor advice, due to the white-knighters that exist around it. Take this post I made earlier today as an example. Granted, it's just one downvote, but when there's only one upvote and one downvote, a score of 0 will deter people from looking at it because they'll think it's bad advice when it simply isn't. We need more sedditors to upvote good advice, or the WKs will take over just because there are a lot more o…
/r/seduction31/10/12 05:48 AM
1

A compliment is not a quid pro quo situation—you don't owe her a particular response because she gave you one. It's not a thing where you have to keep the scales balanced. Just say thanks—and mean it—and that's all.
/r/seduction30/10/12 03:08 PM
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This is a great way to look at relationships. So many white knights on seddit think that once you're in a relationship, it absolutely positively MUST go the long haul and anything else is a failed relationship. And by society's definitions, maybe it is. But Dan Savage has a great way to look at relationships: "Every relationship fails. Until you get into the one that doesn't." In other words, you're going to have a breakup of some form or another until you find somebody that you live with until …
/r/seduction30/10/12 02:59 PM
2

Wait, really? The entire point of the hour-long talk was "if you focus on having fun instead of picking up girls, you'll be more likely to forget about the bullshit in your own head and be more successful." How did you not get that?
/r/seduction30/10/12 02:25 PM
2

For God's sake, no. For one, asking permission at every stage of an interaction with a girl becomes boring and interrupts the flow of conversation so much that you'll drum yourself out of it before you get anywhere interesting. For another, there are so many women out there who want a guy who knows what he wants and goes after it that asking her opinion on every step will make her think that you're just trying to play for her approval, and subjugation is never sexy. Sure, there are women out the…
/r/seduction30/10/12 01:27 AM
2

You'd be far better off if you said, "Would you like me to kiss you?"
/r/seduction30/10/12 01:22 AM
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Dude I have been talking to this girl for months (6 MONTHS OF INVESTING). When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you need to do is STOP DIGGING. Stop digging. Let her go. Go out and find new girls. You will not get what you want from this one, I guarantee it. You've gone six months without her reciprocating your feelings—if you think she's suddenly going to start changing her behavior now, you're deluded.
/r/seduction21/10/12 07:44 PM
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OP made it sound like she goes out of her way to call him consistently, for months. It sounds like their slightly odd relationship does mean something to her. Could be any number of things, but none of them are healthy for OP. It could be that she's friendzoned him, in which case it's in his best interest to give her up. It could be that she just likes getting attention, in which case it's in his best interest to give her up. But regardless, it's in OP's best interest to cut this girl loose. One…
/r/seduction21/10/12 03:19 PM
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That's just it, though: the proper response is to start ignoring her. He has no reason to continue talking to her when he's getting absolutely nothing from her. A relationship, even a friendship, is about contributions from both sides, and right now he's putting all the energy into it. It's in his best interest to stop it before it gets worse. Telling her what you suggested he tell her will only serve to give her even more power and control.
/r/seduction21/10/12 02:43 PM
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"Look, I like you, but just talking on the phone all the time is frustrating for me. I want to see you in person. If you like what we have, you're going to have to make time for me." This is incredibly needy.
/r/seduction21/10/12 02:22 PM
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What's the protocol when she always gives you "I'm busy"? NEXT! Why would you bother with a girl who won't bother with you? I get that you like her, but jesus man, you have to ignore what a girl says and look at how she acts. And how this girl is acting is that she isn't interested. Cut off contact and go find some new girls.
/r/seduction21/10/12 02:09 PM
3

I haven't written a field report in a while, but I make it a point to write up even failed situations, to show what might NOT work in addition to what DOES work.
/r/seduction20/10/12 11:21 PM
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I'm 33, and I still find that women in their early 20s have absolutely ZERO problem talking to me as a potential sexual partner.
/r/seduction20/10/12 07:44 AM
3

I have a friend who, frankly, has incredibly magnificent breasts. Last night I ran into her and we were talking, and some guy walks up and goes "Oh my God, you have HUGE tits." She turns to me and says "So original. 'Wow, you've got giant boobs...'" I said "Huh. I never noticed," with a sort of wink, and she goes "Well, you'd be the first." Pointing out a physical characteristic, especially one so defining as eye color, height or breast size, is like announcing to a girl that you're Captain Obvi…
/r/seduction19/10/12 11:37 PM
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I can certainly understand that. I've always been of the opinion that spoonfeeding newbies is dangerous and prevents them from being able to think on their own. Y'know, the whole give-a-man-a-fish problem. But it's really hard to teach somebody about concepts and esoterica without providing concrete examples. I didn't see a lot of that stuff in what I watched of The Blueprint. Examples are good to reinforce the concepts. Without that, the concepts are just amorphous... things.
/r/seduction16/10/12 08:38 PM
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I found Blueprint to be pretty incoherent, actually. Even knowing the fundamentals of pickup theory, I find The Blueprint Decoded to be hard to follow, somewhat boring, and I can't seem to manage to get through it all. Maybe there's something in there in the latter discs, but if I can't stay awake long enough to get to them, I don't see how it can help all that much.
/r/seduction16/10/12 08:16 PM
1

So pick something else to say. I was using it as an example, not as a manual. There are a thousand things you could say in response to the I've-got-a-boyfriend line; you don't have to use this one. If I ever manage to teach a newbie PUA anything at all, it's that he's got to be able to understand concepts without requiring a script. Critical thinking, just like in high school, is important with this, just as it is with any other complex subject. This is also the reason I said "As long as you mak…
/r/seduction16/10/12 07:17 AM
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I've been the other guy a couple of times (oddly, both times with married women, but I wasn't trying to pick them up at the time, and it was way before I started doing pickup). It didn't bother me all that much, but it's not something I go looking for. That doesn't mean I can't still have fun with a girl if we're at a bar. I'll tease and just generally do stuff for shits and giggles, not because I think I'm going to take this girl away from her supposed boyfriend, just because it's fun. There's …
/r/seduction15/10/12 04:36 PM
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It's an okay response if you want to be seen as a friend. If you're trying to pick her up, she'll get the wrong message from it. "I've got a boyfriend." "Cool. Does he treat you nice?" "Of course." "...I wouldn't." *shit-eating grin* As long as you make it clear that you're kidding around, you can get away with a LOT with a girl. I've used this comment before on girls and once they realize just what you're saying (it usually takes a second or two), they get this shocked and amazed look on their …
/r/seduction15/10/12 04:23 PM
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When I read this book, my impression was that Neil felt like that's how Tyler acted, but that it was really the result of his wanting to fit in with the other guys and being socially inept. That was part of the reason he started studying with Mystery in the first place. I get the feeling from the way people talk about him nowadays that he's grown up quite a bit, settled down, and moved on from that phase.
/r/seduction14/10/12 06:16 AM
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Well, excuse me for being a female with an opinion. God forbid. Now I'm just assuming you're trolling. What I said had nothing to do with the fact that you're a woman and everything to do with the fact that you're a hypocrite. I don't understand where you became the arbiter of all that is womanhood. You don't get to decide who is a "real" woman and who isn't. Also, I can tell you that at no time in the year and a half that I've been studying and using pickup have I ever had to lie, scheme or che…
/r/seduction11/10/12 03:08 AM
1

If I'd had liquid in my mouth when I read this comment, it would have ended up on my laptop screen. But honestly, I don't see what's sexist about calling somebody a sure thing. Condescending? Ehh, maybe, but in the context as a reply to a demand to BEG someone to come over, I don't think it's necessarily out of place.
/r/seduction10/10/12 10:45 PM
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However, the situation could have been handled completely differently I'm guessing that, as a real woman, you wouldn't have put OP in that position in the first place by giving him such a ridiculous comment to begin with. So why are you bothering to argue the point? He got a childish message, and sent a response in kind. I'm failing to see what the problem is, unless you're suggesting he be the "better person" or something and not stoop to her level, which I find a bit laughable given that she's…
/r/seduction10/10/12 10:34 PM
2

It was something, all right. But totally fitting.
/r/seduction10/10/12 10:29 PM
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It still might happen to you. But you'll increase the chances of that happening by increasing the number of women you meet. Fate isn't going to just hand it to you. I'll give you an analogy: I'm a photographer, and I read a lot of forums and such about photography. One day I saw a post by someone asking if professional photographers still need luck to get good shots (especially when you're first starting out as a photographer, those great shots you get are almost always the result of luck and no…
/r/seduction05/10/12 08:39 PM
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You've been poisoned by romantic comedies, sad to say. A lot of us were. Meeting women isn't like a romcom. It's more like a series of menial jobs you do where each one lets you know one more thing that you don't want, so eventually you find the perfect job that's suited for you. Besides, think of it this way: If you were to meet the perfect woman for you today, as soon as you walked outside, how would you know it? And how would you prevent yourself from fucking it up? These are the things that …
/r/seduction05/10/12 08:13 PM
1

If you have a question that is something along the lines of "How do I game my friend?" then read this.
/r/seduction02/10/12 01:25 PM
3

I'm not saying that you wouldn't have done better with her if you hadn't pushed it so fast, but there's a reason that the standard pickup model emphasizes attraction building before comfort building. If you try to escalate after building comfort but before building enough attraction, you can run into problems like the one you ran into. I guess what I'm saying is that your mistake wasn't escalating too fast, it was putting moves on her before there was really a level of attraction built up. dj_bi…
/r/seduction30/09/12 02:18 AM
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She's not saying it doesn't happen. She's saying it shouldn't happen—that no guy over the age of 12 SHOULD want to play games instead of going out. (Or maybe, that guys who'd rather be playing computer games aren't men...) In either case, she's somebody who prefers socializing and he's not, which can be murder on a relationship anyway.
/r/seduction27/09/12 09:46 PM
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This is perfect. It just goes to show how much women's opinions of you can change when they realize that you can take them or leave them and it doesn't affect you one bit. She could just as easily have started chasing after him again in that scenario as finished breaking up with him.
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:53 PM
2

I'm well aware of askseddit's purpose as I'm one of the few guys from seddit who actually comments in it. However, you'll notice that "overly broad / beginner" questions are listed right in this post as common inappropriate types of posts. Something like "How important is body language" is something that is handled by the sidebar and by innumerable publications on pickup. If it's that much of a beginner question, it should be answerable by any number of authors, seddit or not.
/r/seduction27/09/12 07:36 AM
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It's all well and good to suggest that beginners list [BQ] in their posts, but if they can't be bothered enough to read the rules in order to know that BQs go in /r/askseddit, what makes you think that they're going to care about properly tagging their subjects?
/r/seduction26/09/12 09:49 PM
1

Apologies, you're right. What I said in my edit stands with the original commenter, not for you. The first paragraph does apply to you, though—I feel that using a zero-tolerance approach to accepting someone or not is dangerous.
/r/seduction24/09/12 04:50 AM
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I assume you're talking about stumbling, incoherent drunkenness. I agree to a point, but it happens to the best of us on occasion. Using it as an automatic dealbreaker is silly, as is any other zero-tolerance policy. EDIT: Also, you were using it as a moral indicator, not as a description of what you wanted. Your implication was that girls who get drunk are the kind of girls that give blowjobs at the bar, which is moralistic and shortsighted. The other implication from what you said is that a gi…
/r/seduction24/09/12 02:46 AM
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Yeah, because apparently nice girls don't ever get drunk. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction23/09/12 09:31 PM
3

That's not a Catch-22, that's just a shitty set of options. :)
/r/seduction21/09/12 06:02 PM
4

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I highly recommend that you read the books that are the foundations of pickup. The first, and most important, in my opinion, is The Game by Neil Strauss aka Style. A lot of the techniques in it are slightly outdated and/or have been built upon by others to the point where they're redundant, but the book is the absolute in pickup fundamentals. Telling a PUA newbie to read The Game is, for me, like telling somebody who wants to learn calculus that they ne…
/r/seduction19/09/12 12:23 AM
3

I don't think anybody is advocating a moratorium on inner game discussion. But when it's ALL we talk about, and we don't provide the newbies with the fundamentals of pickup, then we're doing them a disservice. However, back when I started in this subreddit, Abundance Mentality was one of the first things that I learned in addition to the fundamentals. And it was something that I constantly reminded myself of. I don't really consider that "inner game" per se, but that's really just my personal pe…
/r/seduction18/09/12 05:13 PM
2

Uh, you move on to another girl who DOES want to have sex with you? I don't understand your question. What effect does it have on my inner game? None, because part of my inner game is knowing that not every girl is going to be attracted to me. There's always the next one.
/r/seduction18/09/12 04:55 PM
2

In The Game, Neil Strauss actually talks about how there got to be a point where every woman in the area had heard all of his tricks of the trade and started calling him on his tactics and routines. You can't rely on it every time. In the future, you can try to use it to your advantage if they call you on it. You could, for example, say "Oh yeah, and it must be working, since you're still hanging on my every word." Say it in a teasing, cocky attitude and gently mock them for it. As long as you r…
/r/seduction15/09/12 06:31 PM
2

I'm not intending to piss in anybody's cornflakes, but this is a brag report, not a field report. The only pickup-related information you really include in it is a comment about a neg—though kudos for actually using a real neg instead of insulting a girl to her face and then calling it a neg, like some people around here do. But apart from that, there's nothing that anybody reading this report would be able to use to help themselves pick up a girl any better. Field reports are for reporting resu…
/r/seduction15/09/12 06:03 PM
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I tell you, IT NEVER GETS OLD. Every single time, I laugh, because OMG, your username! And mine! SO FUNNY.
/r/seduction14/09/12 07:04 PM
5

I do agree with you, but I want to point out that escalation does not necessarily just mean kino. Kino IS important but it is not the ONLY thing you need to do. You need to escalate the level of sexual dialogue going on too, and ensure that she's thinking about you that way.
/r/seduction13/09/12 05:18 PM
2

His point was that there really isn't a way to make something out of this situation without either looking like you're supplicating to the girls or being a dick to them. Neither one puts you at an advantage. Part of having the abundance mentality is realizing that you can't go talk to every girl. Sometimes life gets in the way, and that's fine because you have plenty of other girls and you don't need to talk to this one.
/r/seduction10/09/12 03:58 PM
1

The reason he's asking why he'd need to handle this situation at all is because it's a situation that most PUAs wouldn't bother doing. You don't want to offer help to the girls because it puts you into the wrong category in their minds. Think of it as if the girl were a high school student "allowing" a geek to do her homework for her. He's willing to do it because he wants to be near her, but she looks down on him because of it.
/r/seduction10/09/12 02:00 AM
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The thing is, you're making the assumption that women want to be in a serious relationship with you. You have to be willing to take a woman at her word, which is why when you say you aren't interested in a relationship and she says "Me either," you should feel like your conscience is clear. You cannot presume to know what a woman wants, so if she changes her mind or gets angry with you because she thinks you misled her, you just remind her of what you said at the beginning and then move on to so…
/r/seduction10/09/12 01:10 AM
2

im not entirely sure its her fault That's because it's not. He told her outright that he was cool with being friends. That takes all the pressure off her to be romantic with a guy she probably already wasn't feeling romantic toward in the first place (women don't hang out with a guy for two years and then suddenly develop feelings for them). If he tells her he's happy being friends, he'd better not get upset when she designates him one. Yeah, sorry dude, you friendzoned yourself hardcore with th…
/r/seduction07/09/12 01:12 AM
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It's worth noting that "someone they would date" and "someone they would fuck" are often overlapping, but not necessarily at the same times. Oftentimes a woman will want to date you without wanting to fuck you (the "boyfriend material" zone), and oftentimes a woman will want to fuck you but not date you (the "I'm not looking for a relationship" zone). If you're looking to ultimately maybe date her, you'd better hope you're in the "would fuck" category BEFORE you're in the "would date" category, …
/r/seduction07/09/12 01:06 AM
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This is proven stuff. You should in fact be telling ALL women that you're not looking for a relationship right now. It's part of disqualifying yourself so she doesn't write you off as "relationship material" and activate her anti-slut defenses. Telling a girl that you're not interested in anything serious lets her know that you're down for a one-night stand, and ironically, she's MORE likely to start a relationship with you even if she "knows" that you're not looking for anything. It's due to th…
/r/seduction07/09/12 01:04 AM
3

You can always tell which ones are the newbies.
/r/seduction07/09/12 12:59 AM
1

Honestly, it doesn't matter. I agree with the concept that he shouldn't care what her response will be and should do what he wants to do, but her response would be the same no matter what if her intention is that she never wants to ever fuck the guy and only keep him as a friend.
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:47 AM
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Yawn. Answer this for me: A girl has a guy for a friend and she doesn't ever want to sleep with him. He, on the other hand, is attracted to her but knows that she isn't into him, or at the very least suspects that she isn't. What do you call that? Because whatever you might call it, everybody else calls it the Friendzone. It exists.
/r/seduction04/09/12 06:51 PM
1

I guess I have somebody else in my phone book with your name, then. ;)
/r/seduction04/09/12 05:35 AM
1

Oh, come on, I'm pretty sure I've never called you and gotten a text in response. You ALWAYS call me back or answer.
/r/seduction04/09/12 05:24 AM
8

Yes and no. Because calling somebody requires much more of a commitment, timewise and conversationally, women are far less likely to pick up the phone, even if it's a call from somebody they like and want to talk to. I know women people who will avoid picking up the phone, then text me in response to find out what I was calling for.
/r/seduction03/09/12 11:50 PM
5

I'm over 30, I date girls in their mid- to late 20s, and they all prefer texting. I think the general rule here is, "your mileage may vary." Thing is, texting is generally accepted as only good for setting up in-person meetings, and should be avoided in terms of real conversations when at all possible. So your example of the conversation you put in your post is bad, not because it's not as good as a voice conversation (it isn't, you're right), but rather because it would ideally have been much s…
/r/seduction03/09/12 11:44 PM
3

Not AskReddit, askSEDDIT. Posts asking for advice in specific situations (i.e. how do I kiss THIS girl, as opposed to "how do I go in for a kiss?") belong in AskSeddit.
/r/seduction03/09/12 09:10 PM
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Questions regarding specific situations belong in /r/askseddit. /r/seduction is for field reports, tips/tactics/knowledge, and discussions of general pickup philosophy.
/r/seduction03/09/12 08:34 PM
1

If all you're looking for is sex, then I can definitely understand how you might end up feeling alone. As you get better at pickup, it can seem like it's a pointless endeavor to keep picking up new girls and taking them home. The trick, I've found, is that you're not just looking to get laid. You're looking for a person who complements your own personality. I'm not necessarily talking about long-term relationships or even serious ones, merely that whenever you make new friends, there has to be s…
/r/seduction01/09/12 03:00 AM
1

What's further, if you DO have a need to do something like that, don't ever apologize for it. It's just a part of who you are and you don't owe anybody any excuse for it.
/r/seduction01/09/12 02:54 AM
5

Yeah, there's a difference between a guy being persistent and a guy being just plain clueless. If he can't recognize when you're actively trying to get away from him, then you have every right to play whatever card you can.
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:49 PM
9

In theory, I agree with you, but if you're at all familiar with this subreddit, you'll know that telling a guy you have a boyfriend won't stop them all.
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:26 PM
7

You had better build up some level of attraction before you start getting into deep conversations, or you're going to be friendzoned so fast you'll get whiplash from it. Comfort building before building attraction is a classic problem and it almost always ends up with a girl who either gets creeped out or who drops you square in the FZ. Don't fall into this trap.
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:49 AM
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I totally second this tactic. I just want to point out that this should not be considered a tactic. It is a way of LIFE. If you aren't enjoying yourself, get the fuck OUT of that situation and put yourself into one you WILL enjoy. This is not a ploy you should use to get a girl to like you—it should be your default position in ALL circumstances. Don't hang around if you aren't having fun, and fun will start to follow you wherever you are.
/r/seduction27/08/12 01:30 AM
9

"Aw, that's too bad, we'll have a blast without you though." Your plans are your plans, whether they include her or not. And you can have a good time without her. This is the whole point of abundance mentality and doing what YOU want: you don't need her to complete your world. You have friends (and, ideally, other women) in your life who you choose to be with because YOU like THEM, not the other way 'round.
/r/seduction26/08/12 05:55 PM
0

It's an origin story, like in a comic book. Maybe you didn't read it, I dunno, but he says that the 7-paragraph story happened five years ago—which is easily long enough to see the error of one's ways and make a lasting change.
/r/seduction26/08/12 05:52 PM
1

A girl would never get really close to me and "Surprise me" by saying she's slept with a hundred guys. You can tell a woman like that from a mile away. This is just proof that you're stereotyping. You have no evidence whatsoever that you'd be able to pick one out just by the way she looks or acts, because by that very assertion, you can't prove a negative—all you can say is you've never met one YET who has slept with a hundred guys and looks or acts "normal" or whatever. Even you must admit that…
/r/seduction24/08/12 09:42 PM
2

The key/lock metaphor represents the way society views the issue as a whole. No one has to like it, its just realistically the way it is. So you're a slave to what society says? It's NOT "just realistically the way it is." It's all in how YOU are willing to accept or deny what society says. I have a friend who is quite the slut (I use the term in the sex-positive aspect). She's told me she's slept with a huge number of guys, all in the same social circle. The thing is, nobody knows about it, bec…
/r/seduction24/08/12 09:18 PM
3

yes it does :P No, it doesn't. Period, end of story. The only thing that makes her worth less to you is your belief that it does. And the way I could prove that to you is that if you met a girl and she said she'd only had a couple partners before you, and you started a LTR with her, only to have her tell you that no, in fact she'd been with a HUNDRED guys before you... You would all of a sudden think of her as a slut and worthless. But SHE hasn't changed—YOU have. You all of a sudden see her as …
/r/seduction24/08/12 09:15 PM
7

Great post. Pedantic note: it's elicit, not illicit.
/r/seduction23/08/12 05:20 AM
1

A few years ago I bought a bottle of Pherlure when I was drunk. Honestly, I don't even care if it has pheremones in it or not, I lucked out anyway because the cologne itself really works for my body chemistry. Every woman who's smelled it on me has absolutely loved it. So, long story short, at least I was able to find a cologne that worked well for me and isn't worn by every other guy out there...
/r/seduction20/08/12 04:52 PM
2

They're impressed as fuck with me when I tell them that I taught myself to play drums with it (legitimately taught myself, mind you). :)
/r/seduction20/08/12 03:45 AM
1

I've been out of college for ten years, and I don't see anything douchy in this FR. I think it shows what being confident, cocky and direct can achieve. There's nothing wrong with any of that on its face.
/r/seduction19/08/12 12:05 AM
2

Paying a compliment to a girl isn't AFC in its own right. It's when you pay a compliment to a girl because you're seeking her validation that it becomes a problem. Also, using the term "hey beautiful" just like it was a nickname is NOT the same as paying her a compliment. On the other hand, you're just trolling, so I don't know why I even bothered responding in the first place...
/r/seduction18/08/12 11:49 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/seduction16/08/12 02:40 PM
1

From what year did you get that statistic? I'm not doubting you, but the rule about federal monies and sex ed programs has changed since Obama took office. I've also got no real statistics to back me up and was only going on what I'd heard in discussions on the news and political blogs I read, and they were often high on the topic and low on stats.
/r/seduction16/08/12 02:24 PM
1

So there was no money from state budgets to fund sex ed? NY and CA are pretty liberal. Are you sure they would let that happen? New York CITY is liberal. The rest of New York is actually quite conservative, as is a lot of California that isn't major cities. And you have to under the budget crises that so many school districts are under: losing federal funding for your school can be a death sentence in a district where the public simply doesn't want to pay for its schools.
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:42 PM
1

Where do you live that only abstinence is taught? During the years of the Bush administration in the US, schools could only get federal monies if they taught abstinence-only sex ed. So anybody who graduated high school between 2000-2008 probably was never taught anything about safe sex. It's not just the flyover states. Also, when you mention women who are older are "more likely to received true sex education", are you talking about receiving that education merely through living life? When do pe…
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:24 PM
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This is probably really bad logic to have, especially in today's abstinence-only-education world. Women who are older and more experienced were also more likely to have received true sex education, and thus more likely to be safe. Too many girls starting to have sex at a young age nowadays don't even know the basics of safe sex, let alone pregnancy or STI prevention. Though one thing is true: the more partners a woman person has had, the more the likelihood of exposure to an STI. So an older pro…
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:34 PM
3

Incorrect. There is a blood test that can be done, although unless you ask specifically for a more specific test, it will only tell you if you have HSV, which means it will alert you whether you have HSV-1 (the common, mostly oral herpes) or HSV-2 (commonly known as genital herpes). They CAN do a typed test that will tell the difference, but from what I understand, they won't do that unless you specifically ask for it.
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:27 PM
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I said that you can have a normal sex life with careful use of medication. I didn't say that it would stop the spreading of it, but you CAN mitigate the risks to a minimal amount, from what I understand. We don't know whether OP's partner was being honest, or whether she didn't know if she was having an outbreak at the time, or whether she was on treatment at the time. But one thing you should be aware of is that condoms WILL NOT STOP the spread of HSV-2. It is a disease that is contracted throu…
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:19 PM
3

Yes, of course it's better NOT to have it. And if I were to get it, it would certainly bum me out too. It sucks having to explain to a partner that you're "unclean."
/r/seduction15/08/12 01:16 PM
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Whew, thanks. There's more than one episode in which he discusses this, and at least one where he's got a medical expert as a guest talking about it, but I couldn't even tell you where to start looking, I've just heard too many of them. The one with the medical expert is especially telling, because even she says that as long as you're on a medical regimen and you aren't breaking out, herpes is simply something that isn't that big of a deal. Would I prefer to go without getting herpes? Absolutely…
/r/seduction15/08/12 06:06 AM
15

I don't have herpes, but one thing you have to realize is that a huge portion of the population does, and you can get it without ever even having sexual contact (HSV-2 USUALLY hangs out around the genital areas and HSV-1 usually hangs out around the mouth area, but they're not strictly limited to those areas). Genital herpes is hardly the end of the world. Does it suck? Sure. But Dan Savage has said many times on his podcast that having genital herpes doesn't limit you from having a normal sex l…
/r/seduction15/08/12 05:43 AM
2

A true PUA is one who goes for what he wants at all times, and therefore never has to WEAR a mask. He is himself and doesn't need to hide himself away from others, especially women that he wants, by trying to be whatever he thinks they want him to be. If what you're saying is that the jerk in the comic is some kind of cad or PUA, I point out that it doesn't matter what he is. He could be a very nice guy, for all we know. While it is the girl in the comic who calls him a jerk, it's all a fantasy …
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:15 AM
1

Hey, I said what I did as gently as I could. I mean, the sidebar even has a section titled, in all caps, "NEW HERE?" You have to understand that for those of us who have been here, answering the same questions over and over again gets old and it discourages people from wanting to help. There are already few enough of us who give valuable advice. And don't even get me started on the whopping two or three of us who go answer questions at /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction06/08/12 11:36 PM
1

Well, I know for a fact (thanks to our mutual friend) that she DOES have a boyfriend (though my interest did get piqued when she said, right in front of her friend, that they weren't going to be together "for long"—her response was to get all indignant). If I passed a shit test, it was because I really didn't give a shit whether I got her number or not. And I didn't get it, because I made it clear to her that I wasn't interested in just being friends, and that I asked her for it because she seem…
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:13 PM
3

You simply don't need to ask. The other night, I hit it off with a girl who was clinging on to me, flirting hardcore and generally being receptive. And then at one point toward the end of the night, she said the magic words: "I like hanging out with you, we should do this again." Score, right? I said that sounded like a lot of fun and that she should give me her number and we could do it again. And that's when she dropped the boyfriend bomb. Now, I'm not really one to mess with women who have bo…
/r/seduction06/08/12 11:30 AM
8

*sigh* Look, dude, I don't want to single you out or anything because this happens way too often, but there's a reason there's a sidebar, a FAQ, and Google. If you're really that much of a newbie that you need to ask what kino is, then you should read EVERYTHING in the sidebar before you ever even post a comment. At the VERY least, if you want to know what something means, check the FAQ first—it is, after all, the reason that FAQs exist in the first place. Again, I don't want to single YOU out s…
/r/seduction06/08/12 10:51 AM
0

Seriously? "Stop acting so Asian." Seriously. Racist much?
/r/seduction03/08/12 05:11 PM
1

It's kind of like saying "i don't care if it's offensive, I'm gonna keep using it." Except he never said that. He simply said he wasn't going to change HIS language to suit somebody else. That doesn't mean that his language is necessarily sexist or that he advocates sexist language.
/r/seduction01/08/12 08:29 PM
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I'm one of those assholes, but I won't downvote you. Nor should you, since that would be a violation of reddiquette. You don't downvote stuff you disagree with, only stuff that doesn't add to the conversation. Since you replied to it, I would assume that you valued it as valid to the conversation.
/r/seduction01/08/12 06:32 PM
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I feel the need to point out that talking about sex in the aspect of "getting fucked" is subtly (if almost definitely unintended) sexist. A more accurate and feminist-friendly way to say it would be "sometimes women just want to fuck." Saying it the other way lends the implication that women are simply allowing sex to happen TO them and not taking an active role in it.
/r/seduction01/08/12 06:21 PM
2

Can you provide examples of his actual sexism? All he said in the previous post was that he wasn't going to change his language to suit your requirements—we haven't established whether or not he's actually using the terms that you have a problem with. I don't see anything in his or your comments that has established him as a true sexist.
/r/seduction01/08/12 06:13 PM
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A compliance test? Believe it or not, studies show that people will like you better if you ask them to do favors for you. Feeling needed is important to people. Not to mention that women do compliance tests on guys ALL. THE. TIME.
/r/seduction01/08/12 06:09 PM
1

I'm really confused about why you have a problem with guys wanting to learn how better to pick up girls. Yes, it's called seduction because originally, pickup literature was all geared toward tactics and gambits that would make women more receptive. Nowadays, though, a lot of the lit has changed more to fit the notion that if you have your life in order and you're confident in who you are, you're gregarious and fun, and you aren't afraid to tell women people what you want from them, attracting w…
/r/seduction01/08/12 06:05 PM
4

I know it's nitpicky, but I really have a problem with the use of the word faggot.
/r/seduction01/08/12 05:57 PM
2

It goes beyond the fact that they were just spamming people. They were defaming the mods here and making claims about them that weren't true.
/r/seduction01/08/12 05:56 PM
6

Not that CurveBall needs it, but I'm going to stand up for him here. Have you read ANY of his materials on this subreddit? Because he's a constant friend to women. He goes out of his way to stop people when they try to slut-shame or white-knight, for example. And he, like a LOT of PUAs, understands that women are just as entitled to want sex as men are. The ironic thing is that I see a lot of feminists who look at that behavior and call it sexist, which is downright hilarious, because in the end…
/r/seduction01/08/12 05:54 PM
1

I really don't know that I agree with this. Prequalification is great, but in my experience, when girls see a guy hanging out with another girl and he's just a friend, they're just as likely to friendzone him as she was, because their first inkling of him isn't "oh, what a great guy, and he's cute! And SHE likes him too, so he must be worth something!" Instead, it's more of a subconscious "Well, she only sees him as a friend. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but why bother?" Prequalification wo…
/r/seduction24/07/12 07:23 PM
1

If you have a question that is something along the lines of "How do I game my friend?" then read this. I wrote this primer on AskSeddit a while back because there were a LOT of questions being asked about how to game a friend, how to pick up a girl I'm friends with, how to get out of the FZ, etc. My response was pretty simple: don't bother, because if you ever want to consider yourself a PUA, you have to understand that no person who is truly a scholar of pickup will ever waste his time and effo…
/r/seduction24/07/12 07:18 PM
1

When you ask "who are you," you just do it because you want to know. I usually do a double-whammy version of the question and fire off "Who are you, what's your name?" so they don't get confused into thinking I'm asking some kind of existential question. It works very well at getting them to open up right off the bat.
/r/seduction19/07/12 06:28 AM
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Grow a sack and talk to them. This, a thousand times this. The more I realize that I honestly couldn't give a shit about whether women like me or not, the more I realize that I could have been so different in college. The couple times I did manage to get a girl to talk to me, the more I realized that I wanted them to like me so much that I ruined it pretty much before it'd started. You really, truly, absolutely cannot give a shit about whether you're liked or not. You'll discover that ironically…
/r/seduction13/07/12 12:49 AM
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If he does it, I would suggest to him that he not be so supplicative, and instead say something like "We should go get coffee sometime." It's got more of a leading frame, it's more likely to get a positive response, and it puts you into her mind as the kind of person who has good ideas.
/r/seduction09/07/12 07:13 AM
2

He certainly has a flair for the dramatic, doesn't he? I honestly don't know if I could use the lines he uses. The way he describes it sounds really hurtful, and it seems to me that no amount of "nah, I was just kiddin girl lol" can make some things go away.
/r/seduction07/07/12 04:34 PM
1

Whenever I write any kind of FR, I try to think of things that I can take from it and use as lessons learned. I tend to be descriptive, perhaps overly so, in my writing, but I always try to summarize the lessons I learned from the evening into a distilled, simple construct that can be used as a sort of TLDR for lessons. I do NOT see enough of this. At the very least, the writer of a FR should be able to outline the pickup skills that were utilized, how they were used, and how other people might …
/r/seduction06/07/12 12:09 AM
2

I'm not saying it's the ONLY reason a girl will play with her hair, just that unconscious preening IS something that a girl will do.
/r/seduction03/07/12 06:57 PM
5

It's an unconscious move that women do when they want to make sure that they look good for the person they're talking to. It's not so much playing with it, like, constantly as it is that they're making sure everything is in order and looks nice. Women will totally attempt to straighten themselves up for a guy they're attracted to, even if they don't realize they're doing it.
/r/seduction03/07/12 02:37 PM
1

I've never heard that phrase before, but it sounds to me like if the trout managed to get old, it couldn't possibly be easily caught. Otherwise it wouldn't have made it to old age. Just sayin'.
/r/seduction02/07/12 04:22 PM
1

If she's complaining about her ex to you, then she thinks of you more as a girlfriend than as a boyfriend. Plain and simple. You need to give this girl some boundaries, and fast. You are not her sounding board. The longer you interact with this girl without romantic and physical escalation, the more you're going to be friendzoned. If you want to be romantically involved with her and she isn't ready (personally, I think "I'm not over my ex yet" is an excuse for her not to have to give you the "ba…
/r/seduction29/06/12 03:06 PM
6

Read up as much as you can on the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder. It will help you immensely.
/r/seduction28/06/12 10:23 PM
5

Just got another one that calls TofuTofu out by name and calling him a scammer. Le sigh.
/r/seduction26/06/12 04:41 PM
4

If you go for the number close early in the conversation, and then stick around to continue talking to her, you can raise her buying temperature and increase the chances that she'll respond to you if you call or text her.
/r/seduction26/06/12 02:38 AM
1

Well, if you want to improve your life, something has to change, and at this point it sounds like it's going to need to be your attitude. Believe me, I know what it's like to feel like nothing's ever going to get better, but until you stop thinking "it's no use" and start thinking "what if?", you'll never make a change for the better.
/r/seduction24/06/12 03:53 PM
1

Sounds like you need a second opinion to me.
/r/seduction24/06/12 07:09 AM
2

And monkeys' brains, though popular in Cantonese cuisine, are not often to be found in Washington, DC! Is that what we ate? *retch*
/r/seduction24/06/12 06:50 AM
1

I try to participate as much as I can in askseddit. The only thing that tends to discourage me is how much the same type of question gets asked over and over again, and I feel like I'm just copying and pasting my answers. To that end, I wrote up a quick and dirty kind of mFAQ (most frequently asked question) thing a while back and I still find myself using it when people post there: If you have a question that is something along the lines of "How do I game my friend?" then read this. If we could…
/r/seduction21/06/12 03:59 PM
6

Dude. He offered to buy her a drink. If she refuses, it's not like he can make her do it.
/r/seduction19/06/12 11:05 PM
6

What the hell is wrong with just looking for a piece of ass? Everybody likes getting laid, and you're preventing people from doing that. This is total white-knighting (or, I dunno, is it called white-knighting if it's coming from a girl? I dunno): going on the assumption that whatever girl the guy is talking to doesn't also want to "just get a piece of ass." Why would you be that person?
/r/seduction17/06/12 04:25 PM
2

Thing is, though, that you we can learn a lot from failures. To the OP: Believe me, if you look around on this SR, there are a LOT of failure field reports. You just have to read through them.
/r/seduction15/06/12 07:56 PM
6

I CANNA DO IT, CAPTAIN!
/r/seduction15/06/12 06:26 PM
6

Gah, that left me feeling SO FRIGGIN AWKWARD.
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:52 PM
4

There was a girl who was literally asking me over and over to go out with her. But whenever I'd actually try to make a date with her, she'd either flake or simply not respond. Yet the next time I'd see her, she'd say "When are we going to go out?" Finally, I got sick of the mixed signals and when she asked me when we were going to go out, I just went in for a kiss. She pulled her head back and said "We don't really know each other." That, my friend, is what happens when you get rejected by a gir…
/r/seduction15/06/12 04:40 PM
3

Well, I can't really speak as to a purpose for it. I know lots of women who hate "needle dick" syndrome (i.e. a guy who's very long but has very little girth). I've always heard that girth is more important. So yeah, that's one of those things that I don't think average guys really understand. And let's face it: men are FAR more preoccupied with the length of their dicks than women are. Hell, according to Dan Savage, women whose partners have below-average penis size report being far more satisf…
/r/seduction13/06/12 04:36 PM
3

I can't imagine what it is like for >9in... Oh God, I'm nowhere near that big. A little over 7.5 inches, which is still more than 25% bigger than average. I'm blessed in that I'm also pretty girthy, so the combination of the two makes for a memorable experience for the girl. But yes, there are still circumstances where I have to take it slow. With the exception of my last serious girlfriend, who was a virgin when we started dating, I've never actually encountered a woman who was, like, scared of…
/r/seduction13/06/12 04:06 PM
6

Having a big dick isn't something I achieved, it's just something that is. It's a fact about me, and I don't see it as anything different than "I have black hair." I'm not proud of having black hair, and by that same token, how can I be proud of having a big dick? I feel that you can be proud of accomplishments, but things that you have no control over just are. Do I feel lucky? Absolutely, but I don't feel it gives me much of an advantage outside the bedroom. After all, you can't just whip out …
/r/seduction13/06/12 03:48 PM
1

0.00181 inches = 0.046mm (25.4mm to the inch, so you just multiply 0.00181 by 25.4)
/r/seduction13/06/12 03:32 PM
2

Don't go bananas over it.
/r/seduction13/06/12 03:31 PM
1

sapiens*
/r/seduction13/06/12 03:29 PM
7

The problem with being honest about being a larger guy is that other guys tend to take offense to it somehow, like I'm comparing my masculinity or something. Thing is, I've never been a terribly masculine guy to begin with, so it doesn't affect me either way. I have no interest in comparing myself with other guys, but just because I have a big dick, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to acknowledge it so other guys can feel better about themselves. Frankly, there are some things about bein…
/r/seduction13/06/12 03:27 PM
5

Whatever. Seduction is always a two-way street. If both parties are interested, then it's up to both parties to read the signals provided by the other to move the scenario forward. Was she DTF? Probably. Could he have still managed to ruin his chances with her? You betcha. A lot of pickup game, especially with "sure things," is ensuring that you say the right things at the right time to not ruin the fucking moment and lose your opportunity.
/r/seduction12/06/12 05:30 PM
1

If you want to look at pickup as a profit vs. loss scenario, then there's no possible way they could really be "worth his time," unless there are no other women in the area. There's no way that you can really tell me that he'd be using his time wisely going after women who don't want him when there are other women who might be more likely to accept his advances. I use the same argument when I try to dissuade guys from going after women who have already put them in the friend zone: the amount of …
/r/seduction05/06/12 07:03 AM
1

I think you're misunderstanding what "attraction is not a choice" means in pickup lit. Mystery uses that phrase a lot, and what HE means by it is "I can make her attracted to me by using my method." So when you used that phrase, I assumed you were talking about making a woman attracted. But I call bullshit on Mystery's use of that phrase—I just don't think you can create attraction out of whole cloth; there has to be something there to provide the spark to begin with.
/r/seduction05/06/12 01:23 AM
1

Just because you're attracted to them doesn't mean that you have to do something about it. There are lots of girls I don't try to get with for one reason or another even though I'm attracted to them. As for "attraction is not a choice," I've always felt like that's one of the biggest pieces of bullshit ever. The number one rule about /r/seduction is that it gives you better odds, but can't make you able to seduce any one person. If attraction weren't a choice, that wouldn't be a concern. You can…
/r/seduction05/06/12 12:55 AM
3

Having them see you as a sexual object early on is important and always has been. This is a pretty standard tenet of pickup philosophy, though; have you actually read any of the literature? If not, you really need to.
/r/seduction05/06/12 12:52 AM
4

Okay, here's the thing. We're taught to think that people fit into two categories. There are those who are good for hookups and those who are good for long-term relationships. Both men and women believe in this philosophy. But it's wrong: Sure, there are people you only want to hook up with and people you'd like to get involved with, but there aren't "types." The trouble comes into play when a girl you're interested in believes that you're "relationship material." If she believes that about you,…
/r/seduction04/06/12 08:54 PM
1

This just sounds like a psychological defense mechanism. It boils down to "Women who are interested in guys who aren't me aren't worth my time." It's just more white-knighting. Pay it no heed.
/r/seduction04/06/12 08:41 PM
1

When I clicked on this post, my first thought was "I bet he's posting after the first time they hooked up." My second thought was "I hope he doesn't think he's out of the woods yet..." Unfortunately, PistonHonda33 is right. Going from here, it's going to still be a lot of work, so don't think that you can give up on all that you've learned just yet. In short, celebrate the success but plan to show up for work tomorrow too.
/r/seduction04/06/12 08:39 PM
4

To be fair, he didn't say that he was thinking about the ladder while he's talking to a girl. He did say he doesn't know where it falls on the ladder, which says to me that he's not sure at what point it's more acceptable to do it. Personally, I don't do arm-on-the-shoulders. I do arm around the waist a LOT, though, and I usually initiate it simply by holding out my arm and the ladies just sidle up against me. Very easy.
/r/seduction31/05/12 10:32 PM
13

I attribute a lot of my success to this place. I can't speak for how much of it really applied technically speaking. A lot of it has just been improving my mindset, being more confident, etc. Do not for a SECOND think that this doesn't have anything to do with it. (I mean, I know you don't think that already, but I want to reiterate it, and ensure that others don't think that either.) Having the right attitude is a huge gigantic portion of helping to get you laid. The rest of it comes from the t…
/r/seduction30/05/12 12:44 AM
1

So, you think that by getting her to cheat on him, she's going to quit him? No dude, she's going to be even more into him after the fact. This isn't the way you should be framing the problem. The real problem is that she's already his friend and virtually nothing he says is going to get her to drop her boyfriend for him in the first place.
/r/seduction25/05/12 07:03 AM
3

As with any line, it all depends on how you deliver it. If you commit to a line like that a hundred percent, it's actually very hard to come off as a creep.
/r/seduction25/05/12 07:01 AM
1

Bzzt! Oh, I'm sorry, that answer is incorrect. See my post of a moment ago.
/r/seduction22/05/12 07:00 PM
3

It's important to be able to know the difference between a girl who gets so drunk she can't tell what she's doing, and a girl who uses alcohol to either a) let down her inhibitions enough to make the move she knows she wants to make but is too scared to make when she's sober, or b) offer her an opportunity to blame the alcohol, making it "not her fault" that she made the move in the first place. In BOTH of the latter examples, the girl wants to do it and will not be ashamed that she did so, but …
/r/seduction22/05/12 06:58 PM
2

Hah. I have a friend who was married to an abolutely nucking futs crazy-ass redhead. When I got involved with a redhead a few years ago, he told me "That's great, dude. Just be aware that at some point in the future, you may be forced to throw yourself bodily from a train."
/r/seduction20/05/12 08:57 PM
3

I think I've gotten to the point where I can start to see what advice is good and what isn't, and I'd LIKE to think that the advice I give is good advice. But there are names that stick in my head from when I started because for all intents and purposes they were the bigwigs. You, Tofu, frogma, ThrowawayPUA... These were all names that already had clout and were therefore people that I listened to. What I'm trying to say is this: If I can trust those people to give me good advice, I'd like to be…
/r/seduction18/05/12 09:50 PM
1

Stop being pedantic. You knew the general gist of what he was saying and you're just being a dick by picking out small details. If you didn't have anything real to add, then why bother posting at all?
/r/seduction17/05/12 05:42 PM
5

Even if she was actually wearing a ring, that doesn't make it an engagement ring. I know several women who wear a ring on that finger but aren't engaged, and a lot of times it's not even to deter men (though sometimes it is), but rather "it's the only finger that the ring fits on and I really liked it."
/r/seduction16/05/12 01:33 AM
1

In my opinion, the rest of what I said about the night still stands, regardless. You had already lost her by that point.
/r/seduction14/05/12 05:12 AM
1

No, I'm not insecure about what Alyx will think of me. I beg to differ: I have this feeling in my gut that Rita doesn't like me because I've been so immature and irresponsible about everything, […] and once Alyx gets to know me better the same thing will happen. You said it yourself: You're worried that the same thing is going to happen with Alyx that happened with Rita. And this is a valid fear; I get similar feelings all the time. But the problem is, what I'm getting from you is that you don't…
/r/seduction14/05/12 01:36 AM
1

Well, here's what you should definitely do, then: you should definitely not do anything with Alyx because of what could potentially happen. You definitely wouldn't want to live life, not at all. You can talk about what might happen until you're blue in the face, but it's all meaningless and pointless if you don't actually DO any of it. I know you're in high school, and so you may not want to take any advice from a guy who's almost twice your age, but if it's one thing I've learned in my life abo…
/r/seduction13/05/12 08:20 PM
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Dude. Rita is not into you. I can name like ten different signals in your own FR that show this. Go after Alyx. If you realize that you don't like her, at least you gave it a shot. But don't even bother with Rita anymore. It's time for you to Next her, and hey look, fate has dropped a hottie in your lap who is interested in you.
/r/seduction13/05/12 06:43 AM
3

The amount of slut shaming in this post and the comments makes me very sad.
/r/seduction11/05/12 03:08 PM
2

Yeah, tossing off a saying like that just screams cliché to me. I almost always tell a girl I'm 105, and I do it without any thought or delay in my response, as if it's just your everyday question. It almost always gets an intrigued-but-not-serious response, something along the lines of "Wow, you don't look a day over 78." At that point I usually respond with "Well, I moisturize." This kind of response has never failed to get a girl to ask me followup questions. Not once.
/r/seduction10/05/12 02:58 PM
1

Asking how old a guy is may not always be a shit test, but it's a good question to treat as one all the time. You can never know what a woman's motivation for asking you that question is. Besides, since age really has no bearing on anything in reality—I've been ten years older than the last three girls I've gone out with—it's not something you need to answer seriously in the first place.
/r/seduction10/05/12 02:55 PM
3

Nope, this is not an AskSeddit question. AskSeddit is for specific questions regarding specific scenarios, whereas this is a question about pickup philosophy and thus belongs here.
/r/seduction07/05/12 12:13 PM
1

Maybe if, instead of jumping on a stupid thing like a username—and believe me, he's heard them all—you look through his comment history and realize that he actually gives pretty damned good advice.
/r/seduction07/05/12 12:12 PM
2

Yup. Back when I was a chode, there were several occasions that girls slept in my bed with me, and it was NOT because they were attracted to me. It was exactly the opposite: they knew I was 100% totally safe, and therefore they didn't have to worry about me making a move.
/r/seduction02/05/12 09:46 PM
17

It's the same with anything. When I was studying music theory in college, we had very strict rules we were to use when working with the subject matter so that we could understand the basics. Each semester, as we moved into a more complex realm of music, the rules became more relaxed and we got to branch out further, until finally we reached modern music of the 20th century and realized that there were no rules left. Part of being an expert in something is knowing which rules you can bend or brea…
/r/seduction01/05/12 11:25 PM
0

As TofuTofu says, gaming is a lot more fun if you're playing it for the lulz instead of for pussy. Why have the interaction if nothing was going to come out of it? For the lulz. And for a great story. And for a number of other things that have nothing to do with getting laid. It's not like picking a woman up is the sole reason that you go out, is it?
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:53 AM
9

What exactly would you have done instead? She'd already made it clear that her only intention was to get guys to buy her drinks. She had no interest in actually meeting somebody and having a conversation, and so once she determined that this guy wasn't going to buy her a drink she wanted out of the interaction as fast as she could go. I'm not one for being a douche just for douchiness' sake, but come on, if a girl's gonna be like that I'm going to at least try to have some lulz with her.
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:50 AM
4

Yeah, that'd show her. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:44 AM
3

Being useless in bed, why bother with me when probably 99% of the guys out there are better? I will tell you right now what will absolutely solve this regardless of your level of experience. I am not kidding when I say this. All you need to do is to pay attention to how the woman reacts to things you do. That's it. It sounds difficult, but I swear, there are certain things that a woman does when you do something she likes that are practically universal in my experience. The biggest one is the sh…
/r/seduction28/04/12 10:50 PM
4

Calling a girl retarded is NOT a neg. It's just being a douche.
/r/seduction26/04/12 01:26 PM
1

You people sometimes make it seem like theres this ticking clock, and once it hits zero the girl will never be attracted to you again... that's just not reality. It's closer to reality than you seem to think it is. Women are VERY quick to categorize potential partners, and once that pigeonholing has begun—and yes, it IS caused by the guy not showing interest, you're right—it's VERY hard to get her to see you as a sexual object after that. As I've said many, many times: it's not impossible to get…
/r/seduction24/04/12 01:14 AM
1

I cannot just post this thing when it is dependant on a lot of factors in practice but if you manage to break it down into the thought process behind it I am sure it will be a great way to look at and plan dates. While you're right about the fact that most of us in the US don't have mass transit available to us, that doesn't mean that your methods are useless, even to us. We here in seddit are resourceful people, and there are ways to tailor a method for what's available. But secreting the infor…
/r/seduction24/04/12 01:10 AM
2

I think what he's doing is chiding you for saying you have a method that you aren't willing to share with the rest of the class. If you're that good, then what's preventing you from spreading the love?
/r/seduction23/04/12 10:21 PM
5

If she's having a good time and is attracted to you (your personality), she isnt going to just friend zone you that quickly What on earth gives you that impression? If she's attracted to your personality, but you aren't giving her physical clues that you're interested in her sexually, she will absolutely friendzone you that quickly. That's what the friend zone IS: a mental attraction without a physical one. Kino is vital to staying out of the friendzone regardless of how you meet a girl.
/r/seduction23/04/12 09:37 PM
3

Why wouldn't a oneitis girl be your first attempt at pickup? I don't agree with his decision to go after his oneitis, but that doesn't mean I would actively try to sabotage it for him. Sure, in 99.9% of cases, you can't dig yourself out of the friendzone, but if I'm going to give him any chance at all, I should give him advice that will maximize his chances. Will he still fail? Probably. But that's no reason to take a defeatist attitude right from the start, either. If you practice and get bette…
/r/seduction23/04/12 07:17 PM
3

As usual, TofuTofu hits it out of the park with the practical advice.
/r/seduction23/04/12 03:00 PM
6

I'm not telling you NOT to try "your game" on this girl, even though I think you're probably wasting your time. HOWEVER. You should really try your game on a bunch of OTHER girls first so you can, y'know, get a handle on it before taking it to her. This will have two main results: You'll hone your pickup skills, which is vital if you want to be able to pick up your friend. You'll be setting this girl aside and taking a fresh look at other women. This is the traditional cure for oneitis—well, tec…
/r/seduction23/04/12 02:54 PM
1

Would you really think this is a shittest?! It is absolutely a shit test.
/r/seduction22/04/12 10:35 PM
12

It's a joke. It's not like I came up with that line. http://i.imgur.com/rJkyk.png
/r/seduction22/04/12 09:57 PM
4

All the more reason he should go into it with a clear head. Putting a girl on a pedestal will only cloud your perception of how she really is.
/r/seduction22/04/12 09:27 PM
14

Just remember: As amazing as she may seem to you now, somewhere out there is a guy who's sick of putting up with her.
/r/seduction22/04/12 07:24 PM
1

I think what people say they would do and what people will actually do are two different things. This is the primary reason we don't ask women for advice on how to pick up women—they aren't a reliable source.
/r/seduction21/04/12 11:56 PM
2

I could do the same with replies like "This coming from a guy named ARealSocialIdiot," or "maybe you're not a social idiot after all!"
/r/seduction21/04/12 01:41 AM
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This is more of a false axiom than real advice. Guys joke that what they want is a girl who's straightforward and honest if she wants to fuck him, but the fact of the matter is that in most circumstances, a guy will run in the other direction if actually confronted with a girl who tells him she wants him to fuck her. Also? It takes all the fun out of it. Part of closing with a girl is the back-and-forth that you do, that little dance that happens between you. It's part of the buildup. It's the s…
/r/seduction20/04/12 09:24 PM
3

Low risk, low reward. High risk, high reward. Which does this feel like to you?
/r/seduction18/04/12 05:20 AM
1

Specific questions belong in /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction17/04/12 05:58 PM
3

My experience with older women (30-40; I'm 32, to answer your question) is that they have less of a problem paying for their share and care far more about how I treat them than anything else. And again, I wouldn't want to date a woman who thinks that I'm a douchebag just because I didn't buy their dinner. If a woman gets upset at that? I dodged a bullet.
/r/seduction16/04/12 12:51 AM
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The likelihood of looking like a cheapskate by refusing to pay is too high IMO. You're putting way too much significance on a date. If you've only been out with her a couple times, you shouldn't even be taking her out to dinner anyway—it provides far too much significance on a relationship that's barely starting out. Secondly, if you DO go somewhere with her where there's a single check, like a bar or a diner or something, it's a very simple task to just treat it like you would if you were hangi…
/r/seduction16/04/12 12:48 AM
1

Having said all that, it's not like I flat-out refuse to buy things for a girl. I took a girl out to get some post-bar food recently and paid for her stuff just because all she'd gotten was, like, toast. At that point it's simply easier to pay the three bucks than it is to wait for her to get her wallet out. But I did it because it convenienced ME, not because I wanted her to think I was some kind of gentleman.
/r/seduction16/04/12 12:32 AM
3

many women do judge you based on this So what you're saying is that at the outset, before you've even gone on your first date with the girl, you're letting your value be determined by what she thinks of you. You see now why it matters? If you would let yourself go out with a girl whose determination of you is based on whether or not you'd buy dinner for her, then you're already not only dating the wrong kind of girl, but you're setting a precedent for an entire relationship by putting yourself i…
/r/seduction16/04/12 12:30 AM
1

Well, I'm 32, so a bit older than you. But that doesn't mean you can't play up the "maturity" that having gray hair imparts on you, even at 22.
/r/seduction12/04/12 08:17 PM
1

Absolutely own this. I've got a lot of gray hair and women fucking LOVE it. I joke about being old and distinguished and all those things that are associated with gray-haired guys, and women just eat it up. Truthfully: Gray hair at a young age makes you totally unique. It's one of those things that will set you apart from other guys.
/r/seduction12/04/12 06:59 PM
3

And you probably don't believe that big words are meant to be used unless you're trying to show off. Which is unfortunate. I think words are meant to be used. And some words are simply better at describing certain things in more detail.
/r/seduction10/04/12 08:01 PM
3

It goes beyond the concept of midway. It's more to do with the level of surprise and enthusiasm that's put into it, in addition to it only being a semi-private location. Those things combine into a total panty-moistening moment for a girl.
/r/seduction10/04/12 07:59 PM
2

I thought the whole point of cougars is that they like to go after the young ones. ;)
/r/seduction10/04/12 04:55 PM
7

Yep, this. She wanted you to acknowledge the idea that she doesn't do this shit with just anybody, so your job is to acknowledge how strange and awesome it is that you guys are so compatible so quickly. "We barely know each other..." "Yeah, it's amazing how well we sync."
/r/seduction09/04/12 04:49 PM
6

His name is ALEX.
/r/seduction09/04/12 04:46 PM
1

That was probably TofuTofu's post. You know, I think you're probably right. TofuTofu has always been a little more graphic in his descriptions, and I think that's just his personality. But I do not at all think that he's anything but a genuine, stand-up guy. I suppose that you're right that specifics do pose a different scenario. Maybe it IS just the language that I have a problem with.
/r/seduction08/04/12 11:16 AM
1

To be fair, I do remember reading something fairly recently about fingering a girl within a few minutes (possibly 30?) of meeting her. But I don't feel that that's evidence of PUAs being dicks, as I said in my comment, but rather of them just trying to brag and being vain. It would have been plenty enough to just say that they were making out on the dance floor or whatever. It's just not terribly tactful a thing to say. But I don't recall seeing, er, any posts at all from female sedditors talkin…
/r/seduction08/04/12 05:22 AM
2

I said nothing of the sort. I merely asked if you had proof to back it up. If I saw shit like that, I'd be downvoting it just as fast as anybody else. I don't want that filth in this community. The thing is, you're right about one thing: I DON'T believe you. Because I read seddit every day and after a year of being a member, I've never seen things like what you're talking about, or at the very least I think you're miconstruing them. For the record, seddit has MANY female members who feel very po…
/r/seduction08/04/12 03:50 AM
1

Just when I see posts here stating "fingerblasted this girl after 10 minutes of talking to her" or whatever ... some of the highest upvoted comments in posts by FEMALES stating how many scumbags populate this subreddit [citation needed]
/r/seduction08/04/12 03:24 AM
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Reminds me of when a girl is venting to me. I'm always careful NOT to offer advice unless she asks for it. As men, we hear somebody complaining about something and we want to fix the problem. But it's gotten to the point where when I have a female friend or girlfriend who complains to me, I genuinely ask whether she wants me to listen or to help, because I don't want to offer my advice unless she wants it.
/r/seduction08/04/12 03:19 AM
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I'm not looking for a relationship, and I was sure to tell her that, but I'm not against one forming. One should be open to all possibilities. But regardless, at the moment I'm not sleeping with any other women, and I'm not going to force a point just for the principle. I will be sure to have the discussion with her shortly, just to ensure that we're on the same page, but as of right now, I'm comfortable with the way things are moving.
/r/seduction06/04/12 05:51 AM
2

Uh, did you read his story? I didn't see any part where he treated this girl like an object. I saw he treated her like a person who needed a lesson taught to her, much as you would teach a lesson to a child who doesn't grasp that it's not good to push other children down on the playground. But treating a woman like a petulant child is hardly the same as treating her like an object.
/r/seduction05/04/12 01:32 PM
1

I was in a couple clubs in Manchester back in February and man, what a ghettofest. I went to college in New Hampshire, but I don't remember there being so much white trash everywhere. Maybe it's just my memory, I dunno.
/r/seduction05/04/12 01:25 PM
2

For the record, specific questions should go in /r/askseddit. To answer your question: She was either giving you a shit test or she was implying that you're too old for her. Hard to say which without actually seeing the interaction. In either situation you should respond in the same way by reframing or agreeing and amplifying, and if she's still not interested, she'll show you some other sign later on.
/r/seduction05/04/12 04:54 AM
1

Isn't the whole point of a wiki that anybody (including you) could have fixed that error? ;)
/r/seduction04/04/12 01:35 PM
2

trying to hard is a side-effect of caring, and I care because I'm genuinely a nice person. There's a difference between caring and subjugation. You don't need to put yourself below others to show that you care. But regardless, you're misinterpreting what people are saying. When a pickup artist tells you to stop caring, they're telling you to stop being tied to whether you succeed or fail. The outcome of any particular event shouldn't be important to you, because it's enough that you were able to…
/r/seduction02/04/12 02:38 PM
1

While I feel it's important to celebrate even small victories (and this is one), don't let yourself get deluded into thinking that this will continue to go the way that it did. Keep low expectations, because the odds are that by the next time you see her, she will have convinced herself that it was a bad idea to let you kiss her and she will have doubled down on the "let's just be friends" thing. You may have pushed yourself further into the friendzone by doing this. It's important that you don'…
/r/seduction02/04/12 02:30 PM
2

Saying "Oh, you don't know Yellowcard" isn't teasing, though. You said to tease her if she doesn't get the reference, which is very different from that. Generally speaking, people don't like their ignorances pointed out to them and will get upset if you do it.
/r/seduction29/03/12 08:47 PM
8

You think that every girl out there is going to know the name of Yellowcard's new album? I don't even know any girls who could name "Ocean Avenue" as one of their songs, and that one was huge. Teasing somebody over a relatively obscure bit of trivia just makes you look like a nerdy douche. "*snicker* How could you not know that The Trouble With Tribbles was a super-famous Star Trek episode!"
/r/seduction29/03/12 04:53 PM
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For the record, these kinds of specific situational question should go in /r/askseddit instead of here. And no, it's not a shit test. She doesn't want to give you a straight answer because she isn't terribly interested or you haven't given her enough reason to be invested in saying yes. Take it easy and if you should get a chance to talk to her again, do it, but don't concern yourself over whether it happens or not. Outcome independence, my friend.
/r/seduction29/03/12 03:02 PM
2

Saw her again tonight. This time, SHE suggested we go get food after the bar closed, and there was another makeout session in my car this time, that involved, well, hands where they couldn't be seen, and that's all this gentleman will say.
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:03 AM
2

Not at all. Early 20s, two lip piercings and a bunch of tattoos I've only gotten a glance at. I have a feeling that there are more that I'll get to see in the not too distant future.
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:02 AM
2

I'm 5'10".
/r/seduction27/03/12 10:59 PM
2

Okay, here's the thing. 4.7 inches? You are smack dab right in the middle of average with that. There is nothing at all wrong with average—most women prefer average. It's comfortable. I do not think that there is a woman out there who would get into bed with you and have a problem with your size. Most of them will have never been with a larger guy and wouldn't know the difference anyway: average-sized guys make up 98% of the population.
/r/seduction27/03/12 07:43 PM
1

Seeing her again? I think I'd be stupid not to. Smart, sexy, and with an adorable accent? Yeah, I'm gonna call her. ;)
/r/seduction27/03/12 05:21 PM
1

You asked if there was a difference between conveying sexual intent and conveying relationship intent. I was trying to tell you that there is no difference, because at first it's ALL sexual intent.
/r/seduction21/03/12 05:14 AM
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Relationships grow out of sexual attraction. Do not believe anything else. There's a reason that all mPUAs use a sexual progression. The easiest way to start a relationship is to sleep with her early to defuse her protection mechanisms ("I want to make sure I do it right, so I'm not going to sleep with him until the fifth date"), by conveying to her that you're not interested in a relationship, and then by changing tack later on. She will be FAR more likely to start a more serious relationship w…
/r/seduction21/03/12 05:07 AM
8

It's worth noting that if you do not 100% believe in the things you're saying, she won't believe in them either. Like just about anything else in life, if you commit to it a hundred percent, you can carry it off. The importance comes in that belief. Even a smidgen of doubt, and you'll come off as a creep, because you're using a line that you don't trust.
/r/seduction21/03/12 05:03 AM
3

Just because she fucks people for her job doesn't mean that she wants people in her private life talking all about it. There's no harm in Tofu being discreet.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:35 PM
1

Any time I ever see a post from him or puaCurveball or ThrowawayPUA, it shows that [M]. Mod posts are generally tagged with [xxMODxx].
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:40 AM
4

Yeah, I would generally call this bad advice. For one, the way it's worded is done in such a way as to try to mitigate any damage that might be caused, thus lowering the amount of risk you're taking, and it ends up sounding weak and testicleless. "Hey, I like you, unless you don't like me inwhichcasenevermind..." Saying "To be honest, I really want to fuck your brains out" is bold, straightforward, and doesn't give a damn about the kind of response it'll get. It's the epitome of not worrying abo…
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:38 AM
3

He's one of the /r/seduction moderators.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:30 AM
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I disagree that this is a specific question. Sure, the example he used was specific, but he's asking about a general seduction technique. This isn't a situational question, this is a philosophical one, and thus appropriate for this subreddit, IMHO.
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:12 AM
2

This. It's about the congruency of your actions vs. what you say. A lot of people here would argue that you don't tell a woman that you're interested in her; instead, you show her that you're interested by your actions. The words are completely unimportant. But you need to have congruency between your intentions and your actions, or she won't respond well.
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:10 AM
2

Also, it's the one move that everybody makes in Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:41 AM
10

Gentlemen do not give these kinds of details out, for a number of reasons—not the least of which is that it could get back to her, which could be bad for him.
/r/seduction19/03/12 12:21 AM
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Tofu has had enough people there with him to corroborate his stories that we don't really need to doubt them. It's not like people in seddit don't know him, like personally. He deals with BayAreaSeddit people all the time.
/r/seduction19/03/12 12:20 AM
3

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who was going to say that. Hahahaha
/r/seduction19/03/12 12:17 AM
3

Wow. I stand corrected—I had no idea that it was shortened from Gaelic.
/r/seduction17/03/12 10:25 PM
3

Most people probably would. But if it were a guy experimenting with another guy, the vast majority of people would call him gay, not bi-curious.
/r/seduction17/03/12 09:52 PM
1

I take atenolol for my blood pressure and don't think that it has any impact on anxiety or confidence. Sure, it gives me a slow steady heartbeat, but beyond that I don't feel like it really has any kind of effect on me.
/r/seduction17/03/12 07:54 PM
0

Uh it's St. Patty's Day. Patty, for Patrick? Paddy is a derogatory term for an Irish person.
/r/seduction17/03/12 07:51 PM
16

If a girl experiments with other girls in college but ultimately decides that she prefers guys, you wouldn't say that she was gay for the rest of her life. Yet the stigma of being a gay male is still so strong that one incidence makes you a fag forever. Don't be the guy that insists on such a negative and closed-minded stance.
/r/seduction17/03/12 07:49 PM
2

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
/r/seduction17/03/12 01:58 AM
65

Can I just say that I'm so glad that Tofu is posting stuff again? We've had a lot of so-so and okay content posted to seddit lately, but this is solid material and more people, especially the many newbies that we've had here recently, need to read as much of it as possible.
/r/seduction16/03/12 09:32 PM
3

Conversations move and flow. But actually, this is a conversation about being comfortable, period, whether you're thin or fat or whatever. I was trying to point out that BMI can be a means to make people think they're fat or thin when they're not.
/r/seduction16/03/12 06:24 PM
5

BMI is not and never has been a means for determining what is considered healthy. The fact that it has turned into such a thing is horrible for the health of the average person, because it makes them think that they're unhealthy when they're really not. It also doesn't take into consideration fat vs. lean body mass percentages, which is far more accurate in determining health.
/r/seduction16/03/12 05:26 PM
1

Going to the gym and getting more muscle mass is only going to be good for a skinny person. When people say "I want to gain more weight" they don't really mean that they want to fatten themselves up. You want to be bigger—which will be accomplished by gaining more muscle mass. Once you can do that, you'll look even better because you already have a low fat percentage, so you'll start to look cut before very long at all. My advice? Find a Crossfit gym near you. Perfect for somebody who wants to g…
/r/seduction16/03/12 05:23 PM
6

Read the sidebar For God's sake, pay attention to this. I think so many people are ignoring this part, and it's SO VITAL.
/r/seduction16/03/12 05:05 PM
27

Next time I get this response I'll do a little reverse-psychology and tell her exactly that, basically exposing why she said it. Don't do that. This will cause her to clam right up as a form of ASD. You don't want her to give herself any further reason to think about it—instead, you want to gloss over it and act like it's not important. There are a couple ways to do this: the first you've already done, and quite well. The use of "hey, I need to be wined and dined before you can even think about …
/r/seduction11/03/12 08:47 PM
2

You couldn't have linked us to the first page of the article?
/r/seduction10/03/12 08:53 PM
1

I've had supposedly "nice" guys hit on me and make uncomfortable sexual advances right away because they think they need to make their point, or something. This is a HUGE turn-off. If I have to back up or lean back because you're making an advance that I'm not interested in? Multiple times? That's just rude, and you've lost any chance you had with me. They're obviously doing it wrong if a) it's uncomfortable, and b) they do it multiple times. So what it really means is that they're not only misc…
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:47 PM
2

More slut shaming. This is just another facet to the "I want her to be a virgin until I meet her" theme. Unless a person is a virgin, they're always somebody's "sloppy seconds." Deal with it or don't mate. The fact that they've had sex before doesn't damage them in some way.
/r/seduction08/03/12 06:43 PM
2

I understand your point. I just don't agree with it.
/r/seduction08/03/12 04:36 PM
2

Who are you to judge somebody's reasoning for having sex with another person, so long as that other person isn't you? You're essentially saying that if somebody doesn't want a challenge that, what, they deserve to be shamed for it? Let them do what they want. They don't owe you an explanation, and they don't deserve to be shamed for their choices any more than you do. You're just choosing a different type of moralization to apply to them.
/r/seduction08/03/12 03:58 PM
1

You're assuming that the moment two people meet is the moment that they know if they're right for each other. People make determinations as to whether they want to sleep with somebody within the first few minutes of meeting them. Anything done after that, while possible, is working against what the brain has already decided—which is to say that you can change its mind, but you'll have to do some convincing. What you're essentially saying is that even if Bob acted like "Y" or "Z" towards Jane, th…
/r/seduction08/03/12 02:13 PM
1

The reason they don't want a slut is because a bunch of other guys have had their way with you and you're all sloppy. Bad logic. You're not saying you don't want somebody who has had multiple partners; you're saying you don't want somebody who's sloppy. There are lots of classy women who've had far more sexual partners than you ever will. The only reason you don't consider her "sloppy" is because, well, she isn't.
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:32 AM
2

Yeah, that's it. Insult the person who uses correct grammar. ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:30 AM
2

They're probably downvoting you because you're pigeonholing promiscuous women. "[They] sleep around because [they're] afraid of being alone." Sure, some probably do exactly that, just like some guys glom onto any kind of emotional connection they can get, whether it's the kind they want or not. But don't go around assuming that this is the case. I'd say that the vast majority of people have sex, with single or multiple partners, because they like to have sex. To ascribe any reason beyond that is…
/r/seduction08/03/12 07:21 AM
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I think this is definitely the wrong way to go about looking at it. Why? Because there are a lot of people out there who are sex-positive and believe that slut shaming is simply wrong. Yet here's a form of slut shaming ("it's bad to be an emotional slut just like it's bad to be a sexual slut") that we all jump on because it gives a simple and seemingly elegant solution as to why nice guys can't get laid. Truth is, the answer is simple and elegant, but it has nothing to do with this. It's because…
/r/seduction07/03/12 11:45 PM
3

The problem is that telling her you're interested without showing her why she should be interested in YOU (hence the "games and nuances") is only going to make her backpedal as fast as she can. It'll just turn out badly.
/r/seduction06/03/12 12:35 AM
11

any tips to help me "just go for it" I know this is going to sound a little callous, but there's a reason it's phrased "just go for it." That kinda IS the advice.
/r/seduction05/03/12 06:54 PM
3

You have that "just do it" attitude which just flat out isn't enough for those who didn't lose their virginity at 15. For the record, I was a total AFC for most of my life, and I lost my virginity at 14. Being bad with women and getting laid aren't necessarily things that are mutually exclusive.
/r/seduction03/03/12 08:02 AM
14

See, here's the problem with that attitude, though: She laughed at you. Okay, I get that. It stings. But: WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE WITH SUCH A BITCH IN THE FIRST PLACE? If anything, all she did was to show you that she's a shallow, callow, insensitive waste of a human being, and that you'd be far better off without her in your life to begin with. You're focusing on the fact that she didn't want to be with you, when what you should be focusing on is the fact that you don't want to be with HER. TH…
/r/seduction03/03/12 07:58 AM
1

Also could easily have done it the moment she locked her fingers with his. He's missed a number of opportunities at this point: ice skating? Come on, perfect time. CufK: Just find one of those moments where conversation lapses, turn her head toward yours with your hand under her chin, and go in for the kiss. I give it a 90% chance that she'll respond positively.
/r/seduction02/03/12 08:08 PM
1

If the feminized form of the word is "dominatrix", it is equivalent to "dominatress", which would imply that the "masculine" form of the word would simply be "dominater." Like Master and Mistress.
/r/seduction28/02/12 12:19 AM
108

Worse, he probably assumes that The_Merkon is an asshole and is taking advantage of the girl. Because that's the only kind of guy she dates, right? Right? At least to his eyes, it is.
/r/seduction25/02/12 07:24 PM
1

I go out solo exclusively. The fact of the matter is that I really don't even care about how my interactions go. I guess you could say that it's the epitome of I-don't-give-a-fuck. It's just the way it is for me, as a result of being in an area that doesn't provide a lot of wingman material or a lot of diverse girls.
/r/seduction24/02/12 06:39 AM
2

If average is a 5, then 7 is quite a bit above average. But as I've said before, this is why I don't believe in using the scale in the first place—it holds absolutely no meaning for other PUAs, other than to keep score. Your 7 may be my 8.5.
/r/seduction21/02/12 05:32 PM
2

Nothing wrong with teenager stuff. Elementary school stuff is even better.
/r/seduction21/02/12 05:20 PM
2

Will you please go now?
/r/seduction14/02/12 07:00 AM
2

The problem is, I think, that most people tend to grade women the same way that grades are handed out in school. So they think of "average" as a 7, or a C, and move from there. I've stopped using the HB scale altogether. Ultimately, I don't give a flying fuck how hot you thought the girl was. All I care about is if you think she's attractive enough to go talk to. The HB scale might have had its use back in the Mystery Method days, when determining just how hot she was changed how you acted to he…
/r/seduction11/02/12 04:00 PM
12

This, a hundred times this. Why would anybody give a fuck about somebody who feels the need to mock in that manner? Not the kind of person I'd even continue talking to.
/r/seduction08/02/12 05:55 PM
1

Well, even more than that, you absolutely cannot spend money on a girl at a strip club if you want to date her later. It's the whole provider-vs.-equal thing. You start buying her things and she'll think of you as a customer instead of a potential partner. Yeah, the fact that he paid to take her to the back and she did stuff for him... that's completely different than meeting at the club and going somewhere else afterward. He's a customer.
/r/seduction07/02/12 01:30 AM
3

went to the back Ugh. I hate it when I get all indignant and then find out that my brain swapped out phrases. I thought this said "went back to her place." That pretty much changes the entire tone. okay.gif
/r/seduction07/02/12 12:59 AM
2

she was.being sexual due to.the monetary reward. Get off your high horse and learn about context. You mean like the context that she was outside her workplace at the time and never asked him for money? There was no context whatsoever for you to assume that she was trying to set him up to give her money. You have no reason to believe that he got a single dance from her or did anything at the strip club besides talk to her. I've never seen women objectified as much as they are on here. So that mak…
/r/seduction07/02/12 12:10 AM
9

just a pretty big slut working for tips The last place I expect to see slut shaming is in seddit. Don't bring that negativity into this place. Strippers are people too, and just like any other woman, sometimes they meet somebody they like. Don't assume that just because she takes her clothes off for a living, she's a whore.
/r/seduction06/02/12 10:54 PM
2

That's why it's important to read the field report. I know that some people would be offended by the implication that they kissed a guy, but I would hope that most of r/seduction isn't bothered by such things.
/r/seduction06/02/12 05:46 AM
2

You say that women are out there "acting like huge cunts," which is simultaneously true and untrue. While it is true that women give men shit tests, you have to understand that a lot of the time, it's a subconscious thing. They don't do it intentionally—well, most don't, at any rate. They do, however, react viscerally to them, so it pays to know how to respond to them. But if a guy is responding to a shit test properly, the result will be an increase in the levity of the conversation. So if she—…
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:52 PM
8

Sorry, next time I do a field report, I'll be sure to include some pictures and diagrams for you.
/r/seduction04/02/12 09:12 PM
4

Oh, of course it is. But that doesn't make the implication any less effective.
/r/seduction04/02/12 09:11 PM
11

I say it's fine, and that it takes a whole seven hours after meeting for people to be comfortable sleeping together (taken from The Game)- it had only been six. We talk for an hour more, she initiates, and deal is sealed. I LOVE this. It presents her with an obstacle to overcome and sets her mind up in a way that she's comfortable moving forward. "Oh, so if I just wait an hour I'll be comfortable enough to sleep with this guy." Mysteriously and magically, an hour later she is, indeed, ready to s…
/r/seduction04/02/12 08:25 PM
26

You know what's amazing? MOST women would absolutely agree with you: "If he's boyfriend material, I want to wait and get to know him first." Do you know how many guys you're unintentionally friendzoning as a result of this rule? Fact of the matter is, you're more likely to end up in an exclusive relationship with that guy you went home with randomly and starting hanging out with to fuck every few days than you are with the guy you think is REALLY great boyfriend material and you want to "do it r…
/r/seduction04/02/12 07:59 PM
11

If you're too fucking lazy to read something for forty-five seconds, you're being a twat. This whole subreddit is designed for people to READ stuff. If you're unwilling to do that, then it's amazing you can manage to hold a girl's interest long enough to sleep with her in the first place.
/r/seduction04/02/12 07:53 PM
-2

That's nice.
/r/seduction03/02/12 06:28 PM
4

You see ads promising "get ANY woman into bed.. in minutes!" and shit like that, but I don't believe that for a minute. It's called chloroform.
/r/seduction02/02/12 03:07 AM
1

This post needs to be done in AskSeddit as well. In fact, I thought very much about doing just that a little while back.
/r/seduction01/02/12 10:17 PM
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