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Can't expect starving people to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:40 PM
6

It's often not literally hate. That's self serving oversimplification of the emotion. Let's say no man ever dated you, nor been your friend, nor worked with you and neither been your classmate past elementary. Would that affect how you view men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:53 PM
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It's often not literally hate. That's self serving oversimplification of the emotion. Let's say no man ever dated you, nor been your friend, nor worked with you and neither been your classmate past elementary. Would that affect how you view men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:52 PM
1

You say facts say women are willing to be with average men. Why don't we see this in dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:42 PM
1

I didn't say "never any others" necessarily. Getting a girlfriend back in your school, staying with her till marriage and starting again from scratch in your 30s is very different and considerably harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:40 PM
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It doesn't matter if you don't value the interest or you reject it. It's still an interst. Business interest, career interest, romantic interest, sexual interest. Makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:17 PM
6

Woudl you empathise with someone who experiences bullying, but only as long as they don't hate those who bullied them? Warning: this is an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:56 AM
3

That's just more platitudes. At some point there is no motivation to work on yourself, you stop seeing a way out (if there ever was one).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:39 AM
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It's refreshing to read this instead of the constant echo of "nothing has changed!".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:20 AM
2

But prey only gets negative experiences out of being that. Women absolutely do not get only bad outcomes from being attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:04 AM
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man who can attract one woman for a relationship can attract another This is absolutely not the case. A lot of average men get lucky when younger and would be far worse off if that ever failed. The dating market also gets very different as you age and what is left behind gets worse and only more demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:02 AM
2

As a woman, you need looks, which is basically don't be fat, clothes that won't hide it and using some make-up. As a man, you need good looks as a base, fit body that requires a ton of work, right personality, masculinity conforming, plenty of success in your life, being able to approach in the right way and get through all the hoops. And it can still not be enough because you did one thing not perfectly and she got an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:58 AM
3

Why is the consensus that dating apps "not work"? Men are there and willing to match. So why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:49 AM
2

What is a positive experience, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:46 AM
12

How many succesful men live in celibacy? Where are all the millionaires and stars who can't get a date? Why do they still need to engage with women despite achieving so much? There is no independence. And never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:43 AM
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I want to do it and I do it. Not for the group, not because of others, but for myself. Not everything is a group effort. Of course only male friends can do anything about it, but definitely not women. This has became such a classic, but I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:40 AM
5

So you'll shame when it's justified because someone doesn't act accordingly to your unreasonable expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:37 AM
15

Because you'd totally be happy and nice and kind about it. You wouldn't feel nor express any negative emotions about being in such very negative situation and those who do must be inhuman monsters. Really makes sense, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:35 AM
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Most people would also choose once over never.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:33 AM
10

It's very hard for women to not add any value to man's life. A short conversation and a hug from a woman would add value to my life, that's how dire it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:31 AM
10

No, you don't gotta be happy when you are failing. This is how women think, you substitute reality with how you feel things should be. A man doesn't want it, it's not natural for us. We would rather identify with our failure than with the delusion of success. Be who you wanted to look up to as a kid. What are the chances that includes some romantic or sexual success? I didn't look up to virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:30 AM
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Which pill ideas it goes against? What pill tells you to not do those you listed? Or you want a strawman to justify this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:24 AM
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Why do you assume that everything can be fixed? I am ugly, autistic and inexperienced. The absolute last thing I want to is to talk about it IRL, with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:17 AM
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Do you know what analogy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:13 AM
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I never argued women want it or should want it. All I said it is still an interest. Even if you don't like it. Huge virtue signalling going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:10 PM
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I wouldn't call any woman interested in me who I am not attracted to like that. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:54 PM
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I have never claimed otherwise. But that doesn't mean everything will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:37 PM
4

Baseline that's became out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:26 PM
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What if I already know why? Now there's no value in it. Better to keep your dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:26 PM
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It's not outdated at all. Women still demand that. The common complaint of single women is that men aren't providing enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:18 PM
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What world? The world didn't change for men. Men still have to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:17 PM
-2

If someone is interested in you, it's an interest. What you do about it or how you value it doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:34 PM
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Doesn't matter how you judge it personally. It's like billionaire saying "I don't care about money, so I am not rich".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:26 PM
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Someone being attracted to you is not humiliating. No wonder you hate male heterosexuality with attitudes like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:24 PM
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If someone offers me a job, they are still interested in me working for them even if I don't value the offer or don't want to work for them. Of course I get downvoted for such simple logic because it hurts women's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:23 PM
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A woman prioritizing her man is a massive affront to the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:03 AM
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Wanting a steak doesn't make all other food dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:56 AM
9

Men don't have an luxury of massive in-group bias. It's every man out for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:47 AM
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You don't need vocabulary for things like: I am forever alone and it makes me miserable. But why would I pay to say this to the therapist who can't do a thing about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:46 AM
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A man is interested in sex with you. It's still an interest, even if you don't value it. So it means something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:41 AM
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That is still an interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:40 AM
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One day you will find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 AM
3

The other women say men will take anything, so that doesn't sound a like lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:23 AM
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Right, women find most men not attractive enough, so they have to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:19 AM
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Hitting a wall doesn't mean becoming unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:14 PM
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No, it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:14 PM
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Nope, being unattractive is real and makes my life worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:39 PM
1

You'd be rather single than date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:31 PM
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Of course it does. If you have a problem, you want to know why and if you can fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:30 PM
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Inexperienced virgin men have good reason to find out why they ended up that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:24 PM
0

Men aren't hypergamous as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:22 PM
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I don't care what people think. I am below average as a 30+ year old virgin without any experience with women. The logical conlusion is that people who are alone are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:21 PM
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I am below average, but I know "average ass people" who are as alone as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:56 PM
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Things have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:32 PM
5

Yeah, right, good looking men simply have more luck than ugly ones. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:12 PM
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The biggest false equivalence that has ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:07 PM
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Oh really, why? Why would anyone be put off when men get so validated?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:07 PM
3

The conspiracies come in play when you realise it's not only about age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:52 PM
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Deeper relationships with other men won't change a desire for intimate relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:51 PM
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I don't use that language. And again, you either have empathy for someone in that situation or not, without putting up conditions. Empathy doesn't mean agreeing with any associated behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:57 AM
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You can abandon someone or something you have no duty to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:30 AM
-1

Have you ever tried to police woman's language when it comes to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:59 AM
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Yes, it is. You even frame it as an punishment to men with shit like 4B.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:53 AM
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You can significantly influence your luck in other departments like career and basically earn it. That doesn't apply to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:02 AM
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Try being rich yourself. Gender equality is such a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:59 AM
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Empathy isn't about the frequency, but rather about the possibility. By saying "Why would anyone?", you imply everyone is or should be same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:58 AM
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And of course you think everyone is like you. You don't have to prove it anymore, I was convinced from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:51 AM
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I do not know why do you think "most men of PPD" don't see that. I know average men who simply met their future wife at school, in a male dominated study field no less. And they aren't no Chads either. But if we admit that some do get lucky, we must also realise that majority won't. Every lottery has more losers than winners. So I am not sure this is helpful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:47 AM
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If you can't lead with things that matter, things that don't matter are unlikely to save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:42 AM
10

How many women are disposable compared to men who are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:41 AM
0

Exactly, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:37 AM
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You can't even admit that looks matter. You are here to troll and look down on men, don't pretend otherwise or that you have any empathy. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gsrmww/comment/lxs8u9g
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:31 AM
7

And most women are attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:19 AM
7

I have never got any attention from women and it never forced me to stalk or even pursue them. Why would I force interest where there is unlikely to be any?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:18 AM
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Unless it's the experience of being celibate and not liking it. Then it's endless stream of "you are not entitled, sex is not even a need, it's completely your fault, you are evil, you must deserve it". Maybe some platitudes and cheap advice on top of it. Very validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:14 AM
1

social pressure to present an attractive wife to their peers A very woman's assumption of what men are like. There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:05 AM
1

Would you say that only those 5 extra young men struggle in dating or it's more?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:04 AM
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Most single men are basically starving for women. That's a long way from being obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:59 AM
3

No, you don't have to do any "trial and error" like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:56 AM
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I think you demonstrated what I would call "half-way empathy". You recognize there is a problem but you don't want the responsibility of being the cause nor the solution. So we get responses like this that completely miss the mark. I am gonna repeat this forever, but friendships can't compensate for lack of romance or sex and men who do lack sex and romance often have friends, and still have desire for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:53 AM
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Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:48 AM
0

That's being realistic as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:21 PM
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Then there is a problem of supply and demand, and your previous comment is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:25 PM
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It seems you hit such a sensitive spot with this idea, that women can't even engage with it. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:16 PM
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Autistic men don't date while autistic women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:07 PM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:37 AM
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You should not be outraged anymore about that women can get away with more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:36 AM
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Oh, there is power in it. It just doesn't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:29 AM
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Shit test. She wants to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:27 AM
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Considering nobody wants to actually debate in that thread, can someone elaborate on this: What we want is for men with whom we share a relationship to value things we do and not only things we are. Why is it so bad to be valued for who you are instead of what you do? I have my own thory, but I'd like to see other views.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:19 AM
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Their sexuality is different. I have only provided a reason why women often want men's sexuality to be as same as theirs and shame and demonize it when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:06 AM
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Yeah. Mostly the same problems. Europe, even in the east, isn't some traditional paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:36 AM
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What we want is for men with whom we share a relationship to value things we do and not only things we are You ask that while valuing men for what they do first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:48 AM
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This is correct. And there is a big reason that fuels women's dislike of men's heterosexuality. If men are attracted to woman's looks and looks depend on age, that is not a secure position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:31 AM
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What makes her strong or independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:58 AM
0

Doesn't mean you'll ever meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:50 AM
1

If more men get little likes than women, there is again a mismatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:42 AM
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It's called sexuality and sex drive. Don't you have it? Don't you ever see an attractive person and wish you could be intimate with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:28 AM
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It's not about "ASAP". The thread is about 30-year old virgin woman. Enough time to lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:23 AM
0

Which doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:09 AM
-1

You can have sex in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:08 AM
0

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:58 AM
1

It's still liking, as opposed to hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:44 AM
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There's more to reality than your bubble, which is most likely filled with the same man-hating women as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:20 AM
2

Why must dates be expensive? People have dated without having jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:07 AM
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I don't think this is what young people care about when it comes to their dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:54 AM
1

I have already listed examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:24 AM
3

What bias? Those are all things bluepillers here say, often directly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:15 AM
-1

Everyone going to gym is partly or fully motivated by their attractiveness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:51 AM
-1

You are attracted to manipulators who can make it seem in the way you want. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:37 AM
-1

But every man who is seriously pursuing women has to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:26 AM
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Just like I fail to see how not having "universal healthcare and free college" has to do with dating. It stops people of opposite sex from being attracted to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:24 AM
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The difference is redpill tells you to become that man, bluepill will tell you it's not necessary. It's full of such contradictions and nonsense. I have been around enough to notice all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:19 AM
2

Countries with far worse economy and bad or none social policies usually have more children. It's cultural first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:16 AM
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I have always thought blue pillers had more self respect because they refused to change for women Wow, so not improving yourself is actually a good trait you admire?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:14 AM
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Nah, bluepill is: - be yourself - have good personality, be nice - looks don't matter that much (ugly people date too, go to Walmart) - differences between men and women are obscured It does oppose red pill, or there would be no distinction and bluepillers wouldn't be mad about its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:10 AM
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It should really be listed by country in Europe, because those things can differ a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:03 AM
3

Sleeping with and having children with is obviously different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:56 AM
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What makes USA's gender relations worse than Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:35 AM
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Humble brag for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 07:27 PM
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So yes what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:15 PM
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Just because I eat meat doesn't make me any less of a vegan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:59 PM
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It's all built on hypocrisy and the idea of being morally superior no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:09 AM
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My post is about his haters, not his fans. I didn't say all women hated him, but those who do, often hate him in the specific way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:51 AM
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You won't see them calling the billionaires on their side "incels". This is different and the hate IS amplified by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:50 AM
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The hate is coming from straight liberal women and they always attack his weirdness along with his sexual/romantic life. Even in very stupid way like the woman in my screenshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:48 AM
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<image> Women seethe about Elon Musk because in their view his success is undeserved for being autistic and weird. Just being like that should have sentenced him to sexless loser's life. They see an objectively succesful man who is also weird and this is an inexcusable contradiction, dare I say it, even abomination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:41 AM
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That doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 03:12 PM
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Okay, so what do I do with my loneliness? I don't discuss dating IRL, I never complained to anyone about it IRL, I don't bother women in any capacity. But I am still a human and I need some outlet, so I created this account. And even here I do by best to respectfully engage and debate. I could be posting in some echochamber, but that never appealed to me. If that's still much, well, too bad. There were less lonely men before and there was no social media. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:44 PM
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You're just confirming and adding to what I said. So you may recognize that a loneliness is a negative state, but one is not allowed to feel and express negative emotions about it. Which is absolutely unreasonable expectation to have. Either you can empathize or not, if you can, you don't need a bunch of rules for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:05 PM
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Yes, that's why I am saying that. Also depends what is interesting life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:43 AM
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Unattractive people are, as you are well aware, unattractive in person as well, not just in photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:46 AM
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The very same women who either don't use dating apps or reject most men there (those are the direct reasons it doesn't work for men) - they exist in real life, too. So what's the actual difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:55 AM
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the option to get their money up and you can get a woman that way Would you like to date that way personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:27 AM
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Who agrees? If you are unsuccesful, people vilify you. You'll be called entitled, your needs are not real needs and you're messed up for having them anyway. Your situation is inherently fixable and it's your fault for not fixing it. You'll get horrible advice and platitudes. Your complaining is unwelcome even though they'd too complain in the same position. You get put in the same category as insane mass shooters so people can easily justify their natural hate against you. You can't seriously ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:25 AM
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dating/sleeping with them Who is them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:18 AM
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I am confident because it never did anything for me and there are more important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:06 AM
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Why do you think I expect anything to happen? Even if there were somehow more around women around, why would it change anything for me personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:03 AM
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Of course I am not interested, I work hard enough during the week, so I can relax on weekends, meet with friends and family, have some fun as well. I never asked you for examples, I know what volunteering is. All of this is just a way for you to "prove" I have bad personality, so it can justify my failure. I know many people in relationships and I know how they have met and got together. And they didn't need such "solutions".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:10 PM
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Worked out how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:04 PM
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I don't give any advice and don't believe anyone can give some on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:43 PM
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You can like animals without wanting to work with them. Going to animal shelter with the main goal to hit on women is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:42 PM
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Never heard of anyone doing that, it reeks of desperation. People meet their partners doing things they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:03 PM
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What makes them good?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:00 PM
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College education and going on trips is absolutely irrelevant to one's dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:00 PM
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Not places you can go regularly unless you work there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:59 PM
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Where's more women than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:47 PM
2

Is this a parody of bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:46 PM
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That could mean from 0 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:46 PM
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Is it so bad that 5/10 men are an example of a virgin now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:46 PM
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Are there good women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:35 PM
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I never actively looked and never experienced anything. Ended up as 30+ kissless virgin. I don't know any man who didn't have to try hard for a relationship to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:44 PM
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And why should you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:50 AM
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No idea why that's relevant, but I am sure you have zero idea what I am like or what I like, except going off your stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:02 AM
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If he weren't active on dating apps matching with you and asking you out, nothing would happen. Good for you, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:56 AM
2

So you approached him and make it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:34 AM
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Is it the real horror that the men would have an usable alternative to women's rejection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:07 AM
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Women don't carry their sex toys in public, why do you assume men would?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:52 AM
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Still more comfortable than having two weights on your chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:48 AM
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So if you hide it, it's okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:39 AM
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The reproduction isn't the point here. The reactions to sexbots are way more negative than to porn which is basically normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:38 AM
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What are the vibes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:38 AM
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Why is it wrong to invest in your sexual pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:37 AM
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Both genders envy each other for what they don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:37 AM
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Why is a man who jerks off to "teen stepsister double penetration hardcore gangbang" porn considered less depraved than a man who wants a sexbot?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:15 AM
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You didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:10 AM
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Also get told they should not approach, so they go to dating apps, where they get rejected as well. So why shouldn't they base a world view on the rejection? I mean you want to reject many men, but also expect those men to just live ther lives like they are not experiencing that rejection. Can't you understand that your actions have consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:09 AM
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That's more shaming. So you do care. Why is fucking a sex bot inherently worse than masturbating to porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:01 AM
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If you don't care, you wouldn't have to shame it, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:56 AM
5

That's what woman can do, man not seeking it and not trying to make it happen will end up with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:51 AM
4

The point is women who are rich are unlikely to be with poorer partner which is not true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:49 AM
2

Yes, they can choose to be single instead of settling. It's not like you can't reject someone when dating so how is it relevant you don't know it at the beginning?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:45 AM
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The majority does, but still, more women date up than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:31 AM
3

It's a common thing among men who are aggresively trying. You don't notice men who aren't doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:30 AM
2

Of course you didn't have that idea, women are wonderful and only men have bad qualities and do bad things. If you dropped that religious belief you'd see world more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:24 AM
1

Now look at mental disabilities and try to guess which one is the worst in terms of sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:22 AM
1

How is the movement inflitrated when black pillers don't even identify as red?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:17 AM
1

Can you tell me what are the beta traits omegas lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:16 AM
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It's still a scale even if you define it as a mix. Those traits are opposing each other. A man won't be both exciting and stable, confident and shy, unreliable and responsible. Obviously when seeing at as a spectrum, it doesn't mean there can't be space between chad and beta pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:14 AM
1

What about those you haven't "dated"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:11 PM
1

Alpha doesn't have to be rich. It's beta who needs to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:10 PM
1

Why can't beta have a well paying job?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:54 PM
2

I believe only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:50 PM
3

Betas can't play the field. They have to commit or remain alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:46 PM
3

By necessity, not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:37 PM
2

A lot of men are in bad relationships. Relationship isn't automatically an success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:29 PM
3

Nobody's falling for this. Attractive man always has options to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:28 PM
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You indeed want them, when it's time to settle down and fun phase is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:26 PM
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the chads are the real losers Very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:25 PM
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romantically and sexually successful Nothing what I said denies that. Success is fleeting and doesn't make you immune from future failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:23 PM
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The study doesn't matter, the words were just loaned to explain already existing divide. Doesn't matter if we call it alpha/beta, exciting/safe, unreliable/responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:21 PM
2

What is the insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:17 PM
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Yeah, they have no problem generalizing men when it suits them. Men are evil, men are dangerous, men only want sex. But men can be alpha or beta? Nah, that's too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:15 PM
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Selecting how? By swiping left? Just because they want chad to stay or commit after he has done what he wanted, doesn't mean they want the true beta. The beta gets divorced, cheated on, dead bedroomed, abused, disrespected and nagged. Women often want completely contradictory things, it's called having a cake and eating it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:11 PM
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Not really. I know many omega men, they are virgins or not far from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:08 PM
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Being hot, getting laid and being omega doesn't mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:59 PM
3

This is a quality thread even if I don't agree with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:58 PM
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This. It's a backup solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:55 PM
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There is no need to bring wolves into it. Alpha/Beta is here to explain men's sexual experiences and outcomes. And it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:53 PM
1

Why would an omega be gorgeous?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:51 PM
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Most women prefer these men Let's be real. Most women reject such men until they find use for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:48 PM
1

It's not stupid, it's an uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:44 PM
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Yet so many guys will whine on here all day about how women preferring to stay single is shitty and how picking the bear is misandrist Both of those are true. You think more shaming will get men in line?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:41 PM
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How many? The women here like to say how casual sex is rare and not worth it for women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:26 PM
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Yeah, destroy your relationships, that will surely help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:35 PM
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It existed before, if you didn't have any sex, then you can't be affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:32 PM
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His vote doesn’t matter Agreed, I hope they'll realize it next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:31 PM
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You are saying you are gonna avoid sex. So that is what you are going to avoid, no? Or you'll have relationships with no sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:28 PM
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Men like who? Most men don't get any casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:44 PM
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Like you have centered men before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:43 PM
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This is probably a case of humble bragging.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:38 AM
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Assuming you live in the west, what is the rampant violence you face as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:33 AM
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I don't think you can truly understand it. I am not saying there are some good solutions. But you can't expect people to not react in any way from being in that situation. Even if the reaction is just to make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:13 AM
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It's not the same problem, even if there is same feelings, but those do not matter. You honestly can't equalize someone not getting the best possible partner there is with someone not getting their equal or someone not getting anything. Men are objectively failures for not having a relationship. I've never seen myself differently because of it. For women it's always a choice, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:10 AM
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Status?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:05 PM
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It'd be easier to find an unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:01 PM
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I am pessimistic about this. Men will continue to fall behind and drop out. Half of political spectrum sees them as evil privileged oppressors, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:59 PM
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It's a benefit exclusive to women, even to those that will never use it. Men have nothing like that to unite them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:32 PM
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Men will always find a way to make everything about them. This one finished me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:28 PM
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Striving for higher quality of life is very rational. It's why you aren't sitting in a cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:17 PM
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Any scenario where it ends up positively for a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:14 PM
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I read some random threads in twoX and it's way more hilarious than I'd expect. It's like a self-unaware parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:13 PM
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We shouldn’t declare the sex recession over based on just a single year of data—especially a single year that relied on new survey methods—and a fairly small sub-sample of 229 respondents. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:09 PM
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If a woman needs something a man would typically do she can hire it out. Having a bf or husband is a waste when most men see women as property. The irony is surely lost on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:01 PM
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a woman not finding a man to meet her standards is an equivalent scenario By your logic wanting to date a supermodel it's an equivalent scenario to wanting an average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:59 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:45 PM
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Most single men literally don't do any violence. It's not a thing that happens because every woman can get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:43 PM
3

So undesirable and desirable people should or do act the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:41 PM
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If women are able to act in their own self-interest, so can men. The fuck did you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:31 PM
1

Where the hell did I say "men should get whatever they want"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:19 PM
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Why would you need to drop education? Is just not going above your level impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:18 PM
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React in what way? Typing words is not harming you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:15 PM
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but at least we need to be honest that women want to end up with a provider, and if we as a society don’t support men in this role, we will end up with a lot of single and childless women Well said. But how can you support men in this role?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:14 PM
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What were the coercive forces?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:12 PM
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What do you know about being undesirable to make that judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:06 PM
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Did I say it was your "fault"? You made the false equivalence, that's what I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:00 PM
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Keep telling that to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:57 PM
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It was a compromise on the nature of both. I haven't said nor implied it was equal for everyone. It led to unprecedented progress, prosperity and innovation. Women got everything you today take for granted and can't even appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:55 PM
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There is a double standard because there is no big subreddit dedicated to men that would get away with the same speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:47 PM
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Did I argue otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:42 PM
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If you hit someone and they hit you back, it clearly means they have deserved your first hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:41 PM
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Care enough to mention and discuss it, yes. But it's not like most men lived in some period of sexual abundance that will now end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:39 PM
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I am not interested in your strawmans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:38 PM
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Men complain about the obvious double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:37 PM
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It's the latest fad, of course people will discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:32 PM
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Or push men who were doing good into doing worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:32 PM
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whenever there’s a single man there’s also a single woman That's absolutely not the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:23 PM
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You are not an authority to decide whose complaints are legitimate. I don't use "the worst slurs possible". I am for free speech, so either allow men to do the same, or enforce rules for everyone, no double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:48 PM
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The society and even civilization was built on men and women making a compromise on their nature. That only works if both sides participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:45 PM
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Do you really expect men to just be okay with everything no matter the change? Now that would be a negative view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:39 AM
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Basically, you want to do whatever you want, but also face no consequences from such actions, like everything stays the same. You take what you have for granted and want even more. But the real horror is that nothing's ever guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:16 AM
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You really made some great points here. There are so many examples that came to mind about this. In none were the people who wanted to be left alone actually left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:11 AM
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And to stop pandering to them. Pandering how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:02 AM
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Why do you worship women so much? I never see any woman acting like this for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:59 AM
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Most men are unattractive to you and you have no need nor use for them. No need to dress it up in "morals".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:44 AM
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The men venting about women in the same way would be banned. It's a huge double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:38 AM
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Then argue with those who say it instead of those who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:09 AM
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Nobody said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:58 AM
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Women couldn't message those on the top as much because for them nearly nobody was on the top, but the best looking men still got more messages. Just not as much as best looking men. It's not a first message, but total message distribution. https://web.archive.org/web/20100812053446/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:57 AM
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Because that's how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:36 AM
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Why do you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:04 PM
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Oh, they exist because female autism is a thing. I am just complaining that they are never in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:57 PM
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I have pretty strong autism to deal with, so excuse me for not feeling that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:48 PM
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Or maybe women simply messaged them back. Simply messaging doesn't guarantee any outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:47 PM
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It's time for women to provide for men!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:45 PM
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The effect is opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:44 PM
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Why are there no weird normies among women? Women are either ultra conforming to normal and neurotypical with hobbies like fashion, travel and netflix or you get whatever is going on in this picture. This is why I am dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:43 PM
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That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:38 PM
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I have friends I spend my free time with. That's not the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:20 PM
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You made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:16 PM
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You must be the only one around here with empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:15 PM
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It's like going into luxury shops and looking at expensive things you can't afford as a broke person. What's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:12 PM
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The last thing a "sexless scrooge" wants to look at is a happy couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:09 PM
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I don't. I am a weird person who is into normal things. I fit nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:08 PM
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You choose to have sex. You choose your birth control. Your constant victim mode is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:07 PM
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As a psychological self-harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:06 PM
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I do genuinely believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:04 PM
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That is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:54 PM
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If you're average, you have to seriously pursue women. You underestimate how easy is to completely fail in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:52 PM
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Succubus detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:30 PM
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People meme too much about it but the benefits are there. Every nut costs you mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:30 PM
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No nutting. Better to not take any risks with sexual stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:28 PM
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Join us and you will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:26 PM
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That's some crazy tech. Yet men have nothing beyond a rubber.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:08 PM
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I wasn't really being serious with that. But it usually fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:01 PM
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Relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:57 PM
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N count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:56 PM
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Then you still have hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:52 PM
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You had a different account before, didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:51 PM
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Anyone saying more isn't black.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:49 PM
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Lmao. Every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:43 PM
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It shows that your attitude is similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:42 PM
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Nice guy is an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:35 PM
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These are supposedly the nice guys You're doing the same thing you dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:28 PM
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There was a 5 point looks scale, the bigger number means more attractive. If you truly don't care about looks, why would you give majority 1 and 2? Wouldn't you just rate randomly or everyone as average or something? How am I supposed to gaslight myself here that it wasn't a legitimate rating meaning those men were seen as well as rated as unattractive? It's also reasonable assumption that if I found someone unattractive, I won't want to pursue them unless I am really desperate. You are trying h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:55 PM
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If they aren't, it's kind of a statement on how things society wise are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:02 PM
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They should be present in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:58 PM
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It can't be properly studied due to duality of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:36 PM
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Relationships often involve settling and compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:29 PM
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There is difference between main and only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:10 PM
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And where did OP say that? You read his post about sex and went straight into shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:07 PM
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The classic shaming narrative is that a man who wants to have sex with women doesn't see women as people. It's called objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:00 PM
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You just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:58 AM
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Can you go one day without shaming male heterosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:54 AM
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Nobody does. You are supposed to figure this out by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:49 AM
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Why would the behavior between men and women be the same? Okay, so let's say women aren't stimulated by visual stimuli. So one would expect, that instead of making the decision by visuals alone, they would try to get to know the person more. So you think women are more likely to ignore looks and match up anyway on dating apps than men? Attractiveness predicts if you get into a relationship at all. Obviously once relationship is formed, other traits and actions influence its success as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:44 AM
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A bunch of words just to conceal the fact that most men aren't attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:38 AM
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Not everyone has a niche environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:15 AM
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Classic bluepill with the contradictory useless "advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:13 AM
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First you say: The majority men and women get married within their lifetime. Now you admit it's plummeting, but they live together anyways, right. You "nothing has changed" people don't have a coherent argument. You are deliberately making yourself blind. It will be a big shock when it finally hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:06 AM
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Of course you don't. If I am employed, then there can't be an unemployment problem. If I am rich, nobody is poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:46 AM
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I have my own 20% and others have different 20% No, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:33 AM
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I see this take often, why do you think this makes it any better for women? "Well, you are not attractive to me, but I guess I have to settle and be with you anyway". Also it's not that men only messaged attractive women, just the greater share of messages went to attractive women, just like one would expect to. You are supposed to pursue the people you find attractive more, that's how attractiveness works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:31 AM
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Over 2 million people got married in 2023 Marriage rate has been dropping for many decades. So there can still be and is, way MORE failure than before which indicates a problem. A problem doesn't mean everyone is failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:28 AM
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Yeah, it really shows here how women have no issue with women's shitty behavior as long as they can excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:10 AM
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If you are not interested, don't engage and waste someone's time like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:06 AM
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No man was ever oppressed because presidents have been men. Apex fallacy is really that stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:21 AM
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Instead of finding lower standards elsewhere What if the foreign women simply offer something you don't? Then you would be the lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:03 PM
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So all men get same amount of sex? Or you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:22 PM
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A small minority of men are getting a lot. Most men are getting some or little. And a growing minority of men get nothing. Still confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:10 PM
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Are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:41 AM
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Yes, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:31 AM
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We claim you can't declare "I won't fuck you anymore" like something's changed if you never fucked us in a first place. Seriously, what is so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:21 AM
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They don't say you should not do this. They say you will not do this anyway or that you have been already doing this to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:29 AM
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Where do you see someone talking you out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:50 AM
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we don’t really care about men if we already have ways to make money That really says a lot. Now what do you think men should do with this piece of information?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:35 AM
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What is "socially acceptable" is not the same for everyone. There are actions in the middle where attractiveness of the doer does make the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:57 PM
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Such services won't make women want nor need the men that are currently not wanted nor needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:59 AM
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As I said, that can only affect you if women were willing before. It's getting mind boggling at this point how you women don't get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:29 AM
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I guess people never hide or lie about their true feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:19 AM
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What force can men today use in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:15 AM
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It's only women who think what you said because you are never truly single anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:06 AM
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You'd have no sympathy even if the guys here were perfect whiteknight feminists. Nobody insists someone is a whore with 1 body count, you don't have to exagerrate like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:59 AM
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Maybe more and more men qualify. Have you seen how many young men shifted to the right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:54 AM
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What force can men use in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:53 AM
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Not everyone believes in a positive change for themselves. Makes it easier to do negative changes for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:52 AM
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More selective doesn't matter when you have been already filtered out. When will you realise your empty threats are empty?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:50 AM
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There is some point, where it can't get worse. One can't be more celibate than just being celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:43 AM
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Being in the same space means nothing if you are not able to succefully approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:40 AM
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You'd have no sympathy for men regardless, as any woman. All of what you said is just a reversed version of what men say about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:35 AM
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Decent quality pics is the euphemism for being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:32 AM
1

just settle for a relationship without its basic building block Great advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:31 AM
2

Some people win at casino. Doesn't mean most won't lose and trying more is not going to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:25 AM
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Friends and family won't compensate for not having family of your own. Even the cats show you need companionship that lives with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:23 AM
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Women enforce those rules today despite not having to rely on it. Princess treatment? You can't keep using history to excuse today's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:17 AM
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I don't care about casual sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:29 PM
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It's like employer giving advice to their employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:43 PM
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Women love to reduce the issue to "men want to have a lot of casual sex" so it makes men look unreasonable and greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:41 PM
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I am not arguing with it. It just sucks to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:04 PM
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Would you purchase a car without taking it for a test drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:03 PM
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If you're not religious, then why wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:57 PM
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I don't doubt any of that. Yet more and more women are choosing to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:54 PM
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You know how many men do want that in a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:52 PM
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So it took 8 months to realise he wants sex sooner than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:43 PM
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How would a man know you're boring without knowing you already? If you even are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:42 PM
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It's not a common insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:41 PM
2

Why doesn't it apply there as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:37 PM
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To discuss topics and share opinions, which I can't IRL. It's very therapeutic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:36 PM
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Young women in american cities now outearn young men. Where is the wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:34 PM
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if they so desire Very big if.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:32 PM
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I can tell you why I am here just fine, you don't have to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:28 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:24 PM
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I specifically don't expect women to ever empathize with men on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:16 PM
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Are we supposed to take pity on men No, nobody expects any empathy from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:14 PM
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I agree. Women want a winner. To win you need to put effort to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:53 PM
1

That's a great question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:46 AM
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So it's not relevant as an example of what men in general do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:57 AM
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You already admitted this sub is not representative of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:50 AM
2

Does your husband view you in the way you described?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:49 AM
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So most men can still worship women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:48 AM
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Men on this sub are not representative of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:43 AM
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Just like you feel cheated when you don't get commitment from the ideal man you totally deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:10 AM
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It's almost never mutual, so women have always, willingly or not, took advantage of this. And it's not even about not being equal, women can catch up with men in education and careers and still demand a "superior" man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:08 AM
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This is very funny, you are very talented, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:02 AM
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Could you go on 16 first dates and never feel a connection? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:52 AM
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The opposite is being proven every day. Women dislike, demonize and shame male heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:35 AM
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Self-improvement to alpha is worth it. Self-improvement to end up a beta backup plan husband material is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:30 AM
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What makes it hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:09 AM
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You are beautiful, just not to me Really a great thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:08 AM
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You can masturbate without porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:33 PM
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Yes, I am supposed to believe that no young woman ever has one night stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 01:23 PM
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both getting what we want What if that's impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 12:46 PM
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I am of the opinion women (of my age) don't exist for me at all. Because it sure seems that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:55 AM
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It's not nonsense. If women aren't in my life, I can make a conclusion that I am not attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:46 AM
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You didn't, so nobody ever does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:38 AM
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You were saying one cannot have an opinion about women unless he has plenty of experiences with them. I am saying that a fact a man has little experiences with women is also a statement about them in relation to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:36 AM
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Why women aren't and weren't among my friends, classmates and coworkers? Has I personally stoped any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:31 AM
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I’m not some prude that thinks of sex as a chore and I have no idea where you got that Maybe in the previous comment where you said it's reasonable to have sex as little as once a month and men should be happy with it anyway because of other benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:30 AM
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Sure, not meeting women influences my opinion on women. One simply has to wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:22 AM
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They will preach about how sex isn't important and then shame the hell out of someone for not having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:19 AM
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It's not supposed to be equivalence, it was supposed to show it's a meaningless point. So what if it was code? It can do what it's designed to do just fine. Even if I acknowledge reality, and I did, you will simply throw other men's opinions at me. Are there some who are delusional? Of course. Again, so what? You wouldn't date them in a million years, nor any other woman. So delusions is as good as it gets. All that wall of text truly shows how you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:20 AM
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And women who use vibrator or dildo are fucking plastic. Does it change anything? Fucking a robot isn't in ballpark of having sex. It's an emulation and many if not most know that. It's often you women making up such assertions which is just low-key shaming language. In your view losers deserve nothing and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:24 PM
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That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:10 PM
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Women don't do any charity, most men are paying for it. It's just not as direct as with an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:27 AM
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If you are ultra masculine you are allowed to act a little feminine and this is supposed to show women as more diverse in what they want compared to men, which is bullshit anyway, because most men won't get past the first condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:09 AM
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Women are already locking that experience in the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:04 AM
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How can you even compare this to the sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:58 AM
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Buying sex is disgusting on many levels. Buying a machine which will emulate sex is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:54 AM
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Computers also used to be weird things for experts, now everyone has one in their pocket.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:49 AM
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You should realise that the range of attractiveness doesn't start at average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:48 AM
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The social legitimacy is only needed if you want approval from others, but they don't necessarily have to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:42 AM
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You really expect the woman to not complain in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:40 AM
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The AI would be "settling" for you. It shows again and again how most of you don't understand what settling is about. AI can't settle, because it will offer the same experience to anyone. Settling woman will not do that for the partner she settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:38 AM
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She already confessed it in the daily thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:26 AM
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Yes, we have all one day decided to not be likable and therefore lost all access to interaction with other people. Just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:25 AM
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There is no "women who will sleep with anyone". Sleeping around doesn't mean there is no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:24 AM
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People weren't as hostile only because you are woman and you admitted that you were looking for that hostility. Wasn't also your point that most people, except feminist women, will agree that it is a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:04 AM
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The self control applies to whether you try to interact with the potential "another person".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:00 AM
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u/-Shes-A-Carnival Well, the conclusion is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:14 AM
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If it were not, would you ever care? Would you ever call yourself a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:10 AM
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Being childless and single isn't really a pressure for change in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:37 PM
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Are you pretending it's one-sided decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:33 PM
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If libido is sex drive, then it's fueling masturbation just the same as it would fuel an approach of potential sexual partner. It makes no sense to separate those, unless you want to use in a belitting way. Most people here say that. Many times it was said to me directly. Make a thread about how sex is a need and you'll see the outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:28 PM
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What if that man is porn / onlyfans addict and has multiple orgasms every day? Still a low libido? Also, majority of people here say sex isn't a need and one can be happy without any.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:49 PM
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Of course. What a tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:48 PM
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Nothing men can say or do can change women's biologically derived preferences. This is just one of them. Gender roles are here to stay and women will make sure of it. Men who won't approach are unlikely to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:46 PM
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Man with any sex drive can always just masturbate as much as he needs. I thought sex isn't a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:44 PM
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You can have desire for sex and not do anything about it. Is the idea of self control foreign to you? Since tomorrow I will not masturbate for a month. That doesn't mean I won't have desire to do so, quite the opposite, it will be very much amplified. Yet I will resist, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:42 PM
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It's just a made up carricature and has nothing to do with any communities. Come on, this was low from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:39 PM
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Men being viewed as the oppressor in power is precisely why there is no leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:38 PM
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So redpill worked on you? Damn, that explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:33 PM
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They simply take it for granted. There is not even any room for it to be different. It just must be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:31 PM
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You can be open to or inviting approach, but you can't really demand it from someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:30 PM
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Unlike women, men have zero leverage, so there won't be any change. And as your attitude here shows, you will have none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:23 PM
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So you admit it's an extreme example?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:20 PM
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Well nobody is happy or content about it, but sex isn't the exclusive outlet for sexuality, so nobody is literally forced to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:18 PM
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Not sure why you make connection between libido and approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:02 PM
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Yeah, totally a more common position than what I said. Anyway, this is about "gender roles for thee, but not for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:51 PM
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it would be better if women approached more So deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:28 PM
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How can one demand women to approach? Do you approach a random woman and tell her to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:24 PM
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Very original idea, OP. I am sure we'll see a lot of empathy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:21 PM
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If the goal is to have multiple partners, why marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:45 PM
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Then you'll struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:28 PM
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You gonna seriously argue the traits I listed aren't appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:27 PM
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You need to be solidly above average to really stand out. Most people are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:54 PM
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I don't believe it varies so much. A man who is tall, handsome face, fit body, succesful and rich will naturally appeal to huge population of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:32 PM
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That was not my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:27 PM
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constructive criticism Yeah, that's surely what you're doing here instead of raging at unattractive men for the thousandth time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:12 PM
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Yet you don't say what you want to see. Many experiments showed that being Chad alone can override even many negative qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:10 PM
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The villains in movies are usually ugly for a reason. We assume negative qualities to ugly people and positive qualities to good looking people. Everyone does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:06 PM
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Messages equals getting laid now? Most men get barely any matches, so who is ignoring who?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:04 PM
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Should they have ignored the most attractive women? That's what being most attractive means, you get the most attention. That's why women had groups of "are we dating the same man".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:04 PM
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And does that story get him any success?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:53 PM
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Any man who expects anything from a woman without working hard for it is a fool. Only the best get anything close to chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:53 PM
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I have no idea why you think those additional facts somehow make that situation better or more favorable to women. Men prioritized the women they found most attractive as one would expect to and women ended up messaging men who they rated as below average rendering the rating either meaningless or having to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:44 PM
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It's how it usually gets perceived anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:34 PM
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He contradicts himself in the same sentence. And just because he never seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:28 PM
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I am saying that as an ugly man. It applies to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:27 PM
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Then why would you even care?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:24 PM
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You are literally proving what I said. You are a fat woman being together with a fit man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 12:23 PM
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I have my opinions and express them just like you and everyone else here. You can only blame yourself for your inability to discuss something, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:08 AM
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Doing what? I attacked your strawman that "chronically unfuckable" men think fat women have it bad in dating somehow. It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:03 AM
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So it's love of your life or nobody ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:52 AM
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Would you still find your fiancé attractive if he got fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:49 AM
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Nobody says fat women are undateable. Only fat men are. It's another proof of female privilege and male desparation and lack of any standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:49 AM
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Do you consider yourself asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:44 AM
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You are well aware even if the difference isn't that wide in terms of singleness (and some of single men are not really single), there is way more men struggling than women. You can't honestly think that average 18-30 woman and average 18-30 man face the same conditions and outcomes in dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:44 AM
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average woman cannot find a decent competent man with a good head on his shoulders to date It starts to make sense when you realise she doesn't want her average equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:40 AM
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Why would "autists" argue with this? I agree with the list and I know I can't offer most of those to woman as an autist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:36 AM
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Why haven't you found someone you're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:34 AM
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How one looks has plenty to do with what one is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:52 AM
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I would be willing to be anyone who would be willing to be with me. Funny, there are other posts here saying that men aren't that desperate to be with anyone without standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:23 AM
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Women are much open to such friendships, because the cost/benefit ratio is good enough. For a man it's not, doubly so if he has nobody for romantic or sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:39 AM
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So? She wasn't replying to OP and his post is about dating in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:34 AM
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women don’t seem to size men up in the same way But yes, you do. But while men would sometimes like to have more (dating their female friend), you are sometimes satisfied with exactly how it is (just friends). And sometimes you want more too, when just sex is not enough and for a man it is. There are such mismatches all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:12 AM
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Why do you reduce men's interest in women to "sex for free"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:06 AM
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Every relationship has a transactional aspect (what you give and what you get) and women aren't magically innocent of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:38 AM
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No, you don't have your own top 20%. You mostly want the same kind of a man. Men have way more diversity in their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:31 AM
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They are not prioritizing families and the trend is negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:29 AM
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That's an arbitrary definition you made up. It's not a binary thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:36 PM
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It's a delusional expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:35 PM
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I know, but today when woman have a choice, this would be the traditional choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:25 PM
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It's about priorities. LTRs over being single, family over being independent, home over job, children over being childfree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:33 PM
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In many ways, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:10 PM
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So what do they want? You didn't really answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:45 PM
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It seems women can't be traditional at all without turning into a carricature picked out from a hundred years ago. Is it really all or nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:29 PM
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Exactly. Why is everyone acting or going along like it's some major redpill view? Did I miss something? Redpill used to be first and foremost about playing the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:22 PM
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So they actually want dominant women or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:17 PM
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It's a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:15 PM
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When did redpill make the rule that women can't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:11 PM
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Where are you getting those extremes from? In none of relationships I know, the woman is not allowed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:09 PM
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What you say isn't making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:36 AM
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You know what standard is? It's you must be or have X or I will reject you. Men aren't enforcing such standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:08 AM
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A wise man once said: you think you want this, but you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:30 AM
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Is there such morality in women who are into criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:54 AM
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No men maintain such standard, what the hell are you talking about? How would that even work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:26 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't really help you if you can't find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:25 PM
2

Someone who never attracted anyone is objectively unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:21 AM
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It's related to BMI, but it's mainly an appearance thing and what it says about your personality and lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:14 AM
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I think people deserve reality, truth over lies. If you suck, it will be an negative one. If I am unattractive, there is no point in pretending I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:10 AM
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So being approached for a relationship is okay? Or not because there is an expectation of sex in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:41 AM
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Doesn't that sound like a black pilled view?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:39 AM
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Exactly. A sexually succesful man who is about to get into three digit body count is never wrong, entitled or obsessed and any other negative quality - but a virgin surely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:38 AM
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This is just extremely poor subversion. Even if men treated "landwhales" like women treat unattractive men, which means a life completely devoid of any love, lust or even interest - then they could easily get out of it by losing weight. I can't self improve out of autism and inexperience and my poor looking face. You are also inventing arbitrary conditions, like what is genuine lust and how does it differ from a not genuine one? If a man wants to fuck an obese woman and does it, then it's a done…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:33 AM
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You left out "not approaching". Men should live asexual life because god forbid you are disturbed by a man who isn't the perfection from your dreams. Obviously, it's a shit test, and men most likely to impose are also most likely to not give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:23 AM
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And is it a good thing considering what replaced the party life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:18 AM
1

Who is constantly discriminating women and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:58 AM
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This is not "men and women do it exactly the same" issue. Unattractive man thinking himself of as an attractive man and acting like one would get reality checked pretty fast. His friends wouldn't gas him up, women he'd try to get would see right through that unearned confidence. Only women are beautiful at every size, supposed to never settle from what they deserve. So what people think really matters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:56 AM
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She is constantly idealizing women and tearing down men. It only gets more and more ridiculous and hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:49 AM
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Why not? There isn't any equality in dating anyway so there is no need to pretend it is so and have same conditions for men and women which are wasted anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:07 PM
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Average woman is not unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:33 AM
1

So same as now with less actions needed. How is it not an improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:10 AM
13

Those things become relevant after contact was established.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:58 PM
19

If women swiped on more men, men could afford to swipe on less women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:28 PM
8

Sure, no man wants a relationship anymore. Every man behaves like a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:21 PM
5

I also refuse to buy anything because there are too many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:18 PM
5

I didn't say all women get equal attention. But more than men (except the top 20% men) without any doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:16 PM
14

You want to eat. You'd prefer a burger. Doesn't mean a sandwich isn't an option. But dirt or literal shit isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:13 PM
8

It's disgusting to engage in sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:05 PM
8

She's obviously dishonest. Average woman is definitely not suffering from any celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:59 PM
11

Or you'd die a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:56 PM
12

They are still options. Option isn't limited to only what you want or prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:53 PM
2

Apps should get rid of the swipes for men because men try to match nearly with all of women anyway. They could monetize exposure instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:51 PM
15

Women inherently have plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:34 PM
7

Yeah, so you need to exhaust any opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:08 PM
21

carefully choosing your goal and crafting the optimal strategy for it specifically Most men are at the mercy of a woman choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:59 AM
10

Match isn't a commitment to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:58 AM
1

Yet women like to say attraction takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:58 AM
4

Yeah, you can see that reddit's censorship wasn't effective at all in this matter. It was a huge mistake to push people from a platform with moderation and most importantly, actual opposition to the echochambers which have none of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:20 AM
48

What are men supposed to do? Reduce their 1/100 matching rate to 1/10000?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:12 AM
3

It depends on what the man wants. If only sex is the goal or long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:09 AM
7

Single males are fine, black pill is not There could be some overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:21 PM
6

Just because someone is unemployed, doesn't mean they can't talk about job market or they don't reflect it. Maybe there is an economic crisis and jobs are very hard to find. But honestly, look at that single male graph. Let's say a tiny part of them is spinning plates and others had some experience before. That's still a lot of bodies to remove, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:56 PM
4

Or Purple. Or no flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:51 PM
2

Most people have zero understanding for my career, so I never expected that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:49 PM
5

I am not my job nor education and I don't want people to value nor be attracted to me for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:40 PM
15

Redpill is dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:38 PM
8

I understand that and why it is frustrating for you to see the progress from succesful audience to more unsuccesful audience. I had bad jobs all my life until my current one which is perfect. I had a lot to discuss: pay was low, hours were high, work was tough, management was stupid, projects were bad... Now when everything is solid and I make decent money I suddenly have nothing really to talk about. It would seem like just bragging and people don't really want to hear that because the norm is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:34 PM
3

I know. I am not fighting, I was just asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:15 PM
17

It's just funny, the core audience of any dating discussion will always be people who struggle or are unsatisfied in some way. You can see it everywhere else, twitter is full of it. If everyone was doing well, there would be nothing to discuss, the redpill would never even exist. Soon you might have no topics left to censor, but I guess you have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:01 PM
3

Did the single male share and that one specific pill grew too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:53 PM
22

Well, if you do a survey of what your audience is like and then tighten rules in a very specific direction only, it definitely seems that way. Like you are trying to curb a trend you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:50 PM
28

So this was designed to justify more censorship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:32 PM
2

Who decided it is important?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:17 PM
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People suck, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:58 PM
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You see women encouraged to and being praised for doing "manly" things. You definitely don't see the same energy to get men into majority women things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:54 PM
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You can't sympathize with someone's misfortune without going through it yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:51 PM
0

Being invisible has downsides, too. It's not limited to not being noticed on a street. But as a woman you clearly can't imagine what it entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:47 PM
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Yes, it does, if you had better and couldn't keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:19 PM
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Settling doesn't mean you have varied standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:05 PM
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I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:53 PM
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Why is one supposed to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:31 PM
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Really? So femcel is a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:29 PM
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Female friendships would make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:05 PM
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B is better without question, but ideally it's the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:02 PM
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I don't see why is it a problem at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:55 PM
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Maybe unattractive people are treated worse by others. Impossible, right? You'd totally socialize the same with the man who approached you no matter his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:43 PM
8

A4: They would want someone on their level or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:35 PM
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You are literally saying nothing of substance. Nobody ever says doing X is a guarantee of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:33 PM
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It's not "fun" for everyone without any requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:32 PM
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while with women it’s more varied A number of men having extreme sexual success and a number of men having no success at all basically proves this is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:14 PM
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So you are denying self improvement and all advice here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:12 PM
0

Again, you list only downsides of being attractive and which being invisible doesn't have and ignore all downsides being invisible has.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:53 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:20 PM
0

Woah, it's always perfect like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:19 PM
-1

There is not a nuance. Is it better to be attractive or to be unattractive. I never once argue being attractive has no downsides. But being unattractive has only downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:16 PM
2

Who women say they want and who they end up with also tends to differ. Stated vs. revealed preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:56 AM
2

For a lot of people it goes together. Even here people assume every time, that men who struggle with dating, must struggle with friends too, often being completely friendless. I did try to fight that stereotype many times, but sure for many it holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:43 AM
1

Isn't marriage better for children? Or you'd like more single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:38 AM
1

So you don't have friends, no man ever approached you, if you'd make a dating app profile you'd get no matches, your social media profiles get no interaction and you are a virgin with no relationship experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:35 AM
0

I mean, how should I, who never experienced another opposite sex person's interest ever, feel about what you said? Like sure that sucks, but would you really rather be totally unattractive to anyone all your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:30 AM
0

So progressives won't reproducing has no effect on politics of next generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:53 PM
4

If progressives won't reproduce and conservatives will, you can do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:36 PM
6

Is it not sad your progressiveness stops with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:37 PM
-10

Usually situations aren't that ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:16 PM
-13

Because someone needs to have final say when there is no consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:08 PM
3

As I said elsewhere, we are also in phase of high female standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:54 PM
2

Sure, even that's possible. Only few men can truly win. The rest is always at mercy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:50 PM
1

Time can also change in the different direction, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:37 PM
10

The duality of female mind never ceases to amaze. It's not about sexual deviancy but I guess you have to push that angle. No man wants to be viewed as sexless neutered eunuch. Not one. Just like no man wants to be viewed as the safe backup option which gets useful once woman is done with her fun phase. It's absolutely disrespectful. But you have absolute zero understanding for men as it's obvious from every damn comment you make. I just hope most of them are just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:35 PM
1

Well the trend is in the opposite direction. Women rather staying single than to accept less.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:29 PM
12

It's always virtue signalling or humble bragging. Like the woman who made a thread here complaining she was getting too many matches on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:26 PM
7

It means you don't view him as a straight man at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:20 PM
17

Come on, this is lazy. I didn't say it's all great. But nobody who is attractive would rather be unattractive and I am dying on this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:06 PM
1

I live in a conservative country where gender roles haven't moved a little bit for men. So the perspective is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:05 PM
16

To majority of women. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:55 PM
4

If woman had the same rule, you'd cheer for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:54 PM
7

Do you know how being ugly friendless virgin nobody likes or interacts with is? Those are the invisible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:53 PM
14

Because you can't imagine what it's truly like. Reminds me of one rich man who didn't need to work who said he envies people with jobs they have to show up daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:49 PM
10

He figured it out by simply not being alone with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:47 PM
8

That's as much as a compliment as being a "husband material".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:45 PM
13

Nobody wants to be invisible. It's not as peaceful as you imagine. People want what they can't have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:42 PM
28

You know that's not gonna happen. A man engaging in homosexuality is effeminate and not manly to women, simply a turn off. Woman who has been with another woman doesn't become less feminine nor less attractive in eyes of straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:41 PM
2

No matter what age No, that very much matters. And her sexual history overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:36 PM
3

I don't do anything about it. I have given up long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:01 PM
3

It's not fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:45 PM
2

Well, for some of us it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:35 PM
2

Have lesbians gone extinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:55 PM
1

Maybe you would want to have it, as soon as possible in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:08 AM
1

Any more unsolicited advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:02 AM
0

Who said he wouldn't try to make you love him first? A good example is how else would women get into abusive relationships? It's not because they have had an active interest in being abused, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:02 AM
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You don't have to have an active interest. All you need is a certain man to pursue you and you could break your "rules".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:53 AM
4

Approaching doesn't mean you'll succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:51 AM
3

Ideals are only for those who are ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:47 AM
2

I agree, but also think you can be in LTR as a man and be sexually satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:36 AM
5

I think "we want to but can't" is what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:26 AM
3

There are countries like Hungary and Poland that raised such benefits. Do you think it significantly boosted their fertility rate? Nah. You can always give out more money, which also fuels the inflation and raises the taxes and it still gets wasted. Because being a parent is a commitment and a bunch of time you can't spend elsewhere and it's impossible to put a price on that. I don't think ~25 year old woman fresh out of higher education can be bought by state to become a mother. No, she has oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:46 PM
14

Women settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:25 PM
8

It would cost too much for little return. Some countries already try, but you can't bribe someone into the culture. Women want their education, their own career, their freedom, fun and youth. And the marriage is delayed or there is nobody to marry, then there is no time for children and thus no family. It's not really lack of money, because actual poor people always reproduce more, not less. It's how you get and spend the money. I am not even making any moral judgement, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:15 PM
12

Women's standards aren't that diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:02 PM
6

It's a cultural problem first and foremost, not just economic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:56 PM
5

Don't give up anything. Enjoy what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:10 PM
5

Not everything beyond celibacy is automatically a victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:05 PM
1

Parents and grandparents played in completely different market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:04 PM
22

There is no space in the top 20% for all men and you know it. I wish redpill was honest about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:59 PM
2

Now that's a real strong woman who doesn't need no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:21 PM
1

Did you choose the bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:37 PM
1

I am a man, I don't separate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:44 PM
5

Selective implies there are many options for most men. There are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:44 PM
2

Double standards of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:31 PM
3

I don't see men trying to separate from criminals as much as you trying to separate from whatever kind of bad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:24 PM
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It's the same "point" over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:58 PM
3

Toxic women are women, too. You are constantly trying to separate them out of women's group. It will never work, women also view men as a group by what the assholes do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:55 PM
0

I am sure you love people with no sexual desire beforehand. Women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:08 PM
2

I am virgin at 30+, so no. Women can and do have sex even with men out of their league, so spare me of those excuses like it's only with gross people. Most men don't clean up anywhere and their only shot at sex is finding a girlfriend who'll indulge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:07 PM
1

That's absolutely irrelevant. It still shows that women aren't attracted to intelligence first and foremost. Pointless virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:04 PM
-5

Desire leads to love. Just because it could be temporary doesn't mean it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:02 PM
0

It's not the smart ones having the most of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:01 PM
1

There is no necessity. Divorce or break-ups are still legal. Choose better next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:58 PM
3

It's not about that. It's about someone who has something in abundance naturally valuing it less and expecting someone else who has nothing to have the same attitude, that is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:55 PM
1

Because women do charity and don't demand anything of their men back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:53 PM
-6

Yes, other things matter more. Valued for being attractive is still love. I wouldn't want to be loved for my career or education, not sure why you women became so obsessed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:52 PM
14

The cat ladies aren't single because they can't find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:49 PM
-2

Yes, all men in LTRs and marriages are faking it just for sex. That's the reasonable assumption to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:44 PM
4

Betas are abundant, though. Because most men who are single are working. Some of them even earn a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:42 PM
5

Since when it is about "work"? But no, you missed what the analogy was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:40 PM
6

Women sexually select for patriarchy, then complain about its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:35 AM
0

No, I believe women on average live a better life than men on average. It's not limited to personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:34 AM
5

Again, if attraction can't be changed, then you can't lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:12 AM
8

Keep your patriarchy boogeyman to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:17 AM
2

I don't do any of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:13 AM
1

What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:24 AM
2

Well, nobody expects you to care, empathize or relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:20 AM
2

Thoughts? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:11 AM
2

Money isn't that important, said the billionaire to a homeless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:02 AM
7

But attraction can't be changed? Or that's only for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:58 AM
9

the feminist ideal of socializing men in the same way that women are socialized Because it's totally just socialization that drives behavior and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:23 AM
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men are desperate and would fuck anything men's standards are too high It can't be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:14 AM
9

Nope, this assumes everyone has options that they are ignoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:11 AM
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Looks for women aren't as innate as for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:02 AM
10

Why do men get told to lower their standards then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:01 AM
0

The argument isn't that men are never immoral with their judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:00 AM
5

Luck implies it could happen to any man. It never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:19 PM
1

It obviously does. It's basic human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:07 PM
6

It's not matter of luck. Women don't desire most men for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:07 PM
4

There is at least 10x more men facing it than women. And you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:35 PM
2

Average guys don't hook up, they have to find a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:28 PM
3

What low libido men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:27 PM
4

Where is that women's sex drive in r/deadbedrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:58 PM
6

What does it really prove? Your own one example won't debunk anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:53 PM
9

Women see most men as physically unattractive. Chances are, the supposedly "non-chad" men of your league you hook up with, are still well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:24 PM
3

It's also attractiveness, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:10 PM
2

You are basically saying that how much money you have doesn't affect your spending habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:01 PM
1

What makes it a sexual peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:48 AM
0

Nothing, we are all the same, but women are all unique individuals we couldn't possibly generalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:15 AM
5

It's probably not more complicated than "what good is the promiscuity when you're excluded"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:53 AM
7

My point is that only a "few men" can do that and majority of men might as well be invisible for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:34 AM
9

Initial attraction is extremely rare, so the bar can't possibly be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:28 AM
5

Without being sexually attracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:26 AM
4

So women can't be considered privileged unless it's "super easy" for all of them? We are supposed to ignore every difference and every advantage that a majority of women get to enjoy? What a terrible argument, people really struggle with generalizations nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:24 AM
1

The problem is that women either don't use apps at all or use it in a way that ends up with them matching with the same top men - making the rest of men desperate for anything. And of course you blame your own choices and behavior on them to shed that responsibility. If women were on apps and actually made diverse choices, there is no reason apps wouldn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:13 AM
5

You know what that word even means?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:08 AM
14

It's seen as higher standards for casual sex because less men qualify. You're just trying to sell BB as better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:07 AM
3

Most men don't have any options to exercise. Only a small minority of men can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:10 PM
1

The rest can be single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:42 PM
4

How do average men "promote infidelity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:41 PM
3

What are you even arguing with? Just another strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:24 PM
3

You should. As a woman, bluepilled men can't even criticize you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:23 PM
10

What would be attractive to women? Men not doing not any male dominated hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:20 PM
3

My position has always been the past obviously defines someone, only women argue otherwise when it suits them, usually to excuse their promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:15 PM
1

The concept of doing (or not doing) something for yourself is lost on you. It always must be externally motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:32 AM
1

If women didn't want men to think that they lose attraction over a single thing, maybe they shouldn't have made a tons of posts and comments about icks. It's hilarious you are trying to blame that on redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:17 AM
6

It's true that men are attracted to youth, you just misrepresent the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:17 AM
1

Men must do nothing, only suffer in silence. Complaining is bad, improving is bad. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:07 AM
5

Sounds like past defines someone after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:02 AM
1

So no man can appreciate the relationship itself or anything else than woman's youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:49 AM
-1

Seems this is an another arena of women's neuroticism after "all men are dangerous".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:48 AM
0

Yes, every man divorces or breaks up with a woman when she hits 35. That's the point of this thread, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:46 AM
4

That doesn't make all relationships equal. You don't see them all equal, so spare me the moralising.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:42 PM
6

The man without past still has zero experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:41 PM
4

Being cheated on and being cucked is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:40 PM
4

And just like that "all that matters is the person here and now" stops being all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:29 PM
3

I was just asking a question. So is it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:15 PM
0

Why is not having a past the worst, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:44 PM
1

I said "if". Sometimes it can be hidden. Same as man's whoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:17 PM
5

A woman who had previous sexual partners shows that she likes sex and since men seek terrified of a dead bedroom that sounds like a good thing. Come on, you don't have to be that dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:16 PM
-1

Yeah, so same as what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:11 PM
6

If everyone can tell, nobody needs to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:54 PM
2

She should, but let's assume the worst, that she won't. Then men should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:44 PM
1

Let's assume the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:35 PM
4

They can settle for older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:11 PM
43

Not signing a prenup is a sign woman is planning and preparing for a divorce. And that is not a healthy way to start a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:09 PM
-3

Well, then it makes extra valuable to have one, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:03 PM
65

They shouldn't - the past is in the past and doesn't define who person is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:02 PM
1

This post is more like an ad for the age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:00 PM
1

Can you quote where OP said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:05 PM
4

What is the middle-ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:48 AM
1

Thanks for source, that commentary is just perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:20 AM
2

They say no means no, but you also have to be persistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:11 AM
5

Some seem to not like it, but I wouldn't expect any empathy necessarily. Empathy isn't "it would suck if it happened to me", it is "it would suck if it happened to you so I won't do it to you".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:23 AM
1

You are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:21 AM
5

The unicorns, if they even exist, are rare by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:16 AM
2

Well, people saying that aren't thinking of being a cuck in a failed marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:14 AM
2

If you ask men to match Papa's standard, do you also match your Mama's standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:12 AM
4

This is the official chart OkCupid published. You think there is some "real" chart out there where those with high looks scores got low personality scores and vice versa? No, it makes perfect sense those two go together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:10 AM
1

Why would any self-aware LVM man expect any power or dominance in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:06 AM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:58 AM
1

My point is that one can have friends, hobbies and jobs that don't involve any single women. You went right into the extreme of no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:20 PM
-4

I know it's different. The difference is whether you welcome it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:03 PM
-7

The difference is that it was welcomed. Nothing says interrupting someone's day can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:58 PM
3

Having a social circle doesn't guarantee that there are single women in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:50 PM
-3

How did the man you had children with approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:49 PM
2

That's not true. Plenty of hook-ups and relationships started like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:41 PM
2

Sure. All I was saying, you can't expect them to already know you if they saw you for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:31 PM
73

This is an area where men and women will differ greatly. If I am attracted to her, and she is attracted to me, I wouldn't give a single fuck what some third party thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:22 PM
0

Nobody said you have to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:06 PM
1

What you said changes nothing about what I said, so I don't get the "literally no".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:06 PM
-1

Of course. A man cold approaching must already know you, because fuck logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:56 PM
0

You can be wanted for more when you get to know each other. Before that, appearance is all a man can work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:47 PM
2

Yes, most men find most women sexually attractive. Most women don't find most men sexually attractive and such men have to compensate. Surely you can see how this creates problems. Like dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:27 AM
4

Men don't want women to have the same "male" sexuality. Men want women to be sexually attracted to them without having to be the best of the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:10 AM
-2

Exactly, it should be legal, but it won't solve anything OP listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:07 AM
3

You figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:20 PM
3

Define antisocial?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:17 PM
1

There is obviously a scale to how much a person is outgoing and sociable. There is actually a long distance from confident extrovert that can talk to anyone to a friendless loner never leaving his home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:17 PM
1

I didn't say virginity FORCES someone to use prostitutes. I have never paid a sex worker myself and I never will. But I can understand if someone who has never experienced sex, gets desperate with age and pays for it to at least not die totally as a virgin. I wouldn't encourage it, I don't support it but I can empathize. There is no caring without empathy and this is exactly your problem. It does get easy to despise because you can't even imagine to be in someone else's shoes. But people aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:11 AM
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So what differs you from those who are chasing? They approach and talk to them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:24 AM
1

Are the gender roles women enforce for men bad as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:24 AM
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Yes, you actually care, it showed in the last advice I got from you: - just be attractive - just be yourself, don't you dare fake yourself to be better - just become your fake persona entirely Not to mention you don't despise virgins, but you despise their flaws that made them virgins or when virgins do things directly caused by their virginity. And you expect us to pretend this is somehow meaningful difference you should be praised for. This is the depth of your care. We actually care about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:22 AM
1

Actions speak louder than words Have you ever actually dated "shy, reserved and introverted guys that are nerdy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:05 AM
2

What does that change? I've been on many trips with friends and not an one of them convinced me that living loveless and sexless life is actually great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:54 AM
5

What is it that they should be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:52 AM
6

Do you have some kind of a guilty pleasure with massively and hilariously misrepresenting history? Yes, the man in history who didn't reproduce because his head was cut off by a sword in a battle was clearly a progressive women respecting feminist who would be happy with not being with any woman for the rest of his life, had it not been cut short.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:50 AM
3

Someone who prefers tattoos answering to someone with tattoos is likely to just make up an answer to show them in better light to deride the opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:37 AM
6

I haven't chased women in years and I've had more "success" with women since then How?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:16 AM
1

Very good post and the answers are diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:12 AM
25

How many ragebaits in a row are you going to post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:33 AM
1

Sure, but the belief is way stronger when you experienced something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:30 AM
1

Settling implies you had or can have better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:58 AM
3

What? Men aren't being called sluts because "you had sex with many women" doesn't work as an insult when it requires a man to be very attractive and most men can't do that. On the other hand, most women can easily be slutty if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:55 AM
-1

There is an obvious difference between sexes that explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:41 AM
-1

Key and lock analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:31 AM
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If the woman chose them, it's because they are the best option That's very optimistic. Or because the previous best option didn't stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:30 AM
10

Less inclined because those men are very attractive, which is not a requirement for a promiscuous woman. Halo effect applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:55 AM
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Talk is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:30 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:28 PM
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Can you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:17 PM
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This might be a shocking reveal, but not everyone has the luxury of being themselves. Some of us are born flawed and we learn to mask those flaws like autism to the best of our ability to fit a little bit better. It gets hard to see where does the border between fake and real lies. Of course I would accept that, my real me is not worthy of anything. Who else would be paying for sex if not those that lack it? It's not the man in the relationship running after he got laid with a girlfriend for a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:12 PM
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You said men are unhappy with the number of women willing to do that How can men know a woman is willing to do that? Or how many?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:03 PM
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Are those preferences set in stone?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:00 PM
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I thought "fucking girls like normal" is kinda not about commited long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:58 PM
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Which woman has done it and which not. There is not a public list.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:53 PM
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Maybe fucking girls like normal is normal only for the top 20% of men? We can't all fit in that small group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:52 PM
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It's not unless men are encoraging women to be sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:51 PM
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if everything else about him was amazing What are the chances an amazing man can't get laid without sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:39 PM
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The men who get it are happy. The rest doesn't necessarily know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:38 PM
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Lies and manipulation for me, but not for thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:37 PM
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Some women do have casual sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:36 PM
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What is your priority?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:34 PM
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their pleasure is entirely derived from fucking a person you aren't and wish you were Sounds better than nothing. You also said you don't despise someone for lack of sex, but isn't that the person who is likely to pay for sex to end the drought? So you end up despising them anyway. It's always like that: it's not a problem being a virgin, but it's why you are virgin, how you act and what you say and do. Like all of those isn't influenced by being a virgin. It's an irrelevant distinction. And tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:32 PM
2

365 days: A woman falls victim to a dominant mafia boss, who imprisons her and gives her one year to fall in love with him Can't say I am surprised. It's always the same theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:07 PM
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How is redpill not a part of manosphere? Like what is the distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:42 PM
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I was joking. I don't interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:18 PM
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What if you are asshole only to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:54 PM
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Why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:47 PM
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Viewership also doesn't equal agreement or that you live by what you watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:44 PM
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There is no "fact". But let's say if it was, doesn't redpill talk a lot about "spinning plates"? So being single while having casual sex is the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:40 PM
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Don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:39 PM
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Why not make random YouTube video yourself and say it's 99%?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:35 PM
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I don't see a lot of unattractive men claiming that. Who else should know better that it's about looks first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:33 PM
2

This was an interesting insight into a female psychology and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:26 PM
1

The game is making up reasons to avoid relationships. It works as any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:21 PM
1

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:14 PM
3

If you are promiscuous like that, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:45 PM
1

Well, is it unfixable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:18 PM
2

What are the other values?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:15 PM
10

So you also agree that men need to provide or there is no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:50 AM
3

Why would I want to be with someone who can't ever be attracted to me because I am not top 20% man? See, I can play the same game as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:46 AM
13

Have you ever wondered why men "equate their worth to their income"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:45 AM
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Every article I have read about single women is about how men are not earning nor educated enough and how men need to improve that, not that the women should settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:42 AM
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And check the women's posts. It's often complaints about how men initiate in a wrong way or how she is not attracted to him anymore. It's not the same problem men deal with, which is often a complete lack of sexual interest from their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:40 AM
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Grapes are sour anyway. You don't want a relationship or can't get one you want, so you are grasping for justifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:38 AM
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So? How can be the husband sure she's not fantasizing about the bad boy she hooked up with when she was young?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:35 AM
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I am not denying that women are doing better academically, only your conclusion that this will necessarily cause them to "settle".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:31 AM
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Obviously there is no source, it's not a subject that can be easily studied. I opened it and checked posts and it was mostly men, then woman complaining she isn't attracted to her man, two women complaining man can't initiate properly. None of "I want him and he rejects me since I aged".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:30 AM
1

And yet dead bedrooms seem to be started by women, not by men losing interest in their aging wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:21 AM
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more women are entering university and high earning professions and we will be seeing more couples where the woman earns more Are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:19 AM
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Nobody is entitled to a date; unless you are a woman, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:59 AM
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Nobody is born fat. So there is no solidarity to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:50 AM
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Just find a useful man. It works in the couples I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:08 AM
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Pretty sure it's about your sexual experiences, not your fashion choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:24 AM
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One can think men build the society and also acknowledge women build the families and the next generation that enjoys the fruit of the men's hard work. It does not have to be men - everything, women - nothing as you framed it. If women respect the motherly work, why do they pursue careers, abortions, being childfree so much instead nowadays? Can this be all blamed on men, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:44 AM
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Women want to do hard work as long as it isn't dirty, dangerous and physically demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:38 AM
2

How is that relevant to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:10 PM
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It is not good or bad issue, it's just not realistic. People have emotions, people have desires and needs. Pretending there is some switch by which we can turn all of that off is useless. You just invite more resentment and people will take you less seriously. If you goal is to stop men from going redpill, this is the exact attitude that sends them there. It's almost hilarious. Yes, people do act according to their nature even though sometimes they should be repressing it. But that's everyone's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:09 PM
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You said: They (men) hate them (sluts) because even the sluts reject them. For this to be true, men must want sluts or they wouldn't get rejected by them. That's why I called it a default assumption. Is it not logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:59 PM
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You are not aware that bluepill is contradictory. Yes, it promises unearned success (just world, wait and love will happen), but also rains hate on everyone who fails. Because if you don't have it, you are a bad person and you deserve your failure. I can't count how many times I was told here to just be happy alone, accept it and so on and how sex isn't a need. All of that came from bluepillers, this is their only solution for a man who failed, to keep working and paying taxes but most important…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:45 PM
6

Yes, she was. She willingly took that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:35 PM
1

I never said sex solves all problems. If you found a relationship, you wasn't in the some position as someone who can't find any.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:31 PM
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I just want to let you know, even though it's probably a waste of time, that men literally turn to PUA/redpill and shit like that because of those absolutely revolting bluepill narratives you dished out. Just accept you'll be alone forever! Forget about sex! And don't you dare complain! Well, how fucking easy can that be? Have you never gotten an slightest idea that maybe not everyone wants to "accept" that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:24 PM
1

What makes man a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:18 PM
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You assumed there is a rejection. If there was a rejection, there must have been interest. Hence my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:17 PM
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How many weddings today have both being a virgin. Don't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:10 PM
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That's some intense virtue signalling. Women are often rather proud that they care about man's career.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:07 PM
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If you dislike something, you must secretly want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:05 PM
5

Why is the default assumption that every man wants to be with a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:04 PM
10

She can still choose poorly. Plenty of single mothers out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:03 PM
6

Have you never been with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:01 PM
1

Don't you ever get tired of this? It's 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:00 PM
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I didn't say it isn't right or that people should not do it. I said it doesn't look right to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:46 PM
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What is needed, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:57 AM
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So how are they attractive without attracting you? Total mindfuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:47 AM
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Sexual attraction means you find that person attractive enough to have sex with. There indeed is no "she is sexy, but I couldn't possibly have sex with her" in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:46 AM
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All I am saying is that you left out women's responsibility in dead bedrooms. You could simply have acknowledged that without making excuses or defend that position instead of attacking me for pointing it out. And no, I am not mad or emotionally affected in any way. But you really do argue in that stereotypical way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:45 AM
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It's not what I wrote, it's how you read it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:25 AM
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You are stretching the word attraction beyond its meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:24 AM
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While I do agree opposites attract, but I don't think it is some universal appeal, like all women must be vulnerable, there is way more nuance to attraction. Not everyone looks for their exact opposite, similarity can drive attraction as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:22 AM
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finding someone attractive and wanting to have sex with them is not the same thing Sounds like manipulation. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:12 AM
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Your post is all about men bringing dead bedroom upon themselves by what they have done or didn't do. Not even once you entertain the possibility woman might be responsible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:58 AM
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Well, not being fat is essential to attractiveness for women of any height, but I can see how it gets extra important the taller you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:56 AM
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That's sad to hear. But it's absolutely okay for a tall woman to want a tall man. I have the same preference. Couples with massive height differences don't look right to me, but it's usually very short women who want a man to really tower above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:54 AM
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So it doesn't happen, but if it does, it's always completely man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:34 AM
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Too late, everyone knows!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:26 AM
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There is nothing positive for you about being tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:26 AM
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It's consenting adults all the way... unless the female adult consents to older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:06 AM
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There was also no definition of what it is supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:31 AM
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It really makes me wonder what kind of experience one must have to dismiss it as trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:11 PM
0

Sure. And someone on drugs willingly wants to feel good for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:20 PM
1

We can't all have abundance options and nonexistent drive to pursue them. That's where the desperation comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:50 PM
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Women are too wonderful to have fetishes? Nah, I don't believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:45 PM
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Why do women have rape fantasies? People will always fetishize the dangerous, the shameful, the disgusting and the wrong, basically things you are not supposed to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:31 PM
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This question is basically would you rather your partner fake an orgasm instead of a real one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:20 AM
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Men's equivalent would be like "I wouldn't date or marry you, but I would fuck you".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:00 AM
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There is a relation. As an ugly man I get treated worse, so I have real things to worry about because they can and do realistically happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:35 AM
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So it's only for social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:32 AM
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There definitely is, how can you not see that? If you are attractive, all people treat you better. What can you be afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:57 AM
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But marriage benefits women more, they are more likely to initiate and gain from divorce. What do you get as a man from marriage that you didn't already have before it in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:55 AM
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They have their flaws. Sometimes it feels like a battlefield instead of a home. While I don't mind being alone and I do a lot of activites on my own. But living alone, with all its needs and stress, would really fuck me up sanity-wise. It would also constantly remind me how undesirable I am with no partner around in my own place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:52 AM
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I'd like to experience what it's like to be loved and desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:33 AM
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Why was it stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:13 AM
4

Are the men being exploited, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:13 AM
2

What are they saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:47 PM
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My point is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:47 PM
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Standards would mean men would reject women who don't measure to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:30 PM
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men have unfair standards What exactly is unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:35 AM
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How do you think the erection happens? Why don't straight men just fuck each other if sexual attraction is not a requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:06 AM
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It means they are enough sexually attracted to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:01 AM
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If this was true, fat women would be extremely celibate. They aren't. And plenty of men prefer it or at least don't mind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:36 AM
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According to you, "men would never give a fat women a chance". This alone sends your entire post into a trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:26 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:48 AM
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That your future partner would be a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:47 AM
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You mean women are not required to do that towards men. There is absolutely zero chance you'd extend this to men's negative feelings to women. That's totally different, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:37 AM
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What are the chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:34 AM
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Women really don't want to be a solution to this problem, so it results in those illogical sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:32 AM
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I personally would prefer to date a guy who is a virgin It's really scot-free to virtue signal this preference, so I am wondering why don't more women do this. Let's break it down: - virgin is unlikely to ask you out and pursue in a first place - even if virgin would pursue you, he might lie or try to hide his virginity - if virgin pursues you, you might reject him on some other reason (of course totally unrelated to his virginity) So you can easily "prefer virgins" without that preference ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:29 AM
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There are no real benefits to living alone. I live with my parents, I pay my share in costs every month, I do my share in chores, I help them with anything I can and at the same time I save money. I could move out and nuke my finances and quality of life by doing so, but why? Housing costs are insane. Most people I know moved away together as a couple. I know a man who bought an apartment and kept renting it instead of living in it on his own. Once he had a girlfriend, he moved in. Living alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:20 AM
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You can rule out anyone for any reason, like the ick trend showed. And men can think whatever they want about it. But of course you want to have the first one without the consequences of the second one. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:11 AM
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It's a machine programmed to do so, not a being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:52 AM
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You mean women don't want to match like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:25 PM
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Is every man in commited relationship who doesn't cheat incapable of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:33 PM
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Solid explanations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:24 PM
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This advice comes from position of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:36 AM
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What if other people don't want to socialize with you or flirt back? Can you learn it alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:26 AM
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We all should "naturally" act the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:41 AM
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Because I don't consider that as a solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:24 AM
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You are the one that assumed it would happen outside relationship. For me it's a given, I don't think of sex in any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:07 PM
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This is all just useless chicken or egg discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:05 PM
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Those words are what OP used. I don't have any partners if you didn't catch that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:38 PM
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It's too much reduction. Sexual frustration isn't just that someone didn't have sex last week. That can happen to a man who had sex with a hundred women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:37 PM
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They are also not exclusive of each other. You could almost believe one leads to the another.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:34 PM
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Would you really swear that nobody ever gotten better after solving their sexual frustration? The depression just continued, no changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:29 PM
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If that was not obvious, "getting your rocks off" is a gross oversimplification of what is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:27 PM
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Always got to add an qualifier for you nitpickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:25 PM
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Always. You feel bad because you've never been together with anybody? Well, I let you know that being with someone you love wouldn't help you anyway, what a pity, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:23 PM
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suffering from mental health issues a woman would only exasperate Please do elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:20 PM
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If you have lack of will to live because you can't get your rocks off twice a week I have lack of will to live because I never got my rocks off. Is that valid enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:19 PM
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If there is one thing I am really happy about when it comes to my autism, it is that, nobody, not even my parents openly know nor confront me about it. It would only make life worse. The last thing I wish for is for such "special treatment". Let everyone autistic fail on their own terms, that's the least you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:37 PM
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Parents won't be there in school. Parents won't be there when one hangs out with friends. Or interact with strangers. Or interact with women. It's irrelevant, every autistic man has always been on his own and achieved as much as his disability and surroundings allowed him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:30 PM
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if you want to date, just expand your social circle do not dare to date anyone in your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:21 PM
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What is chemistry? She is just being nice to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:19 PM
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Please don't post that "survey", author made it from responses of his twitter audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:15 PM
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Don't you think your perspective as a woman who is presumably not looking to date women might be irrelevant to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:06 PM
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Women don't have any room for such empathy with loser men in a first place, the rest are justifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:04 PM
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Yes, the concept of men disliking women's experience exists even if women disagree or don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:44 AM
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has no bearing on the relationship you have Classic "my past does not matter" excuse. Funny how women have no problem rejecting a man with no experience, but don't want to be rejected for their own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:42 AM
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Anybody forcing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:40 AM
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And someone might consider promiscuity morally wrong. It is a deliberate choice, too. Not a leap at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:40 AM
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Well, she shouldn't if it's a bad deal to her. This might be news to you, but concepts aren't good or bad, or true or false according to how you personally like them. If I do not like that women don't prefer inexperienced men, it literally changes nothing, it'll still be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:38 AM
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And that type is completely separated from their sexual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:34 AM
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The reactions from women under your post confirm what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:34 AM
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would say that virginity doesn't harm a man's attractiveness, but 100% of women I told I was a virgin to rejected me Stated vs. revealed preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:54 AM
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I never see anyone admit it. Don't you think it's unfair to associate someone with some thing they don't associate with themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:51 AM
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How did you identify who is "incel" unless they tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:44 AM
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I know you never said that, it was an analogy to what you said. Isn't disliking a cheater also a way to consider a woman your property? She can have sex with anyone she wants any time, you don't own her just because you are in a relationship. How is it not the same thing? It could apply to any standards man might have. Don't want fat women? She is not your property, she can eat as much as she wants to. You only care because you want to buy her. Now you see how stupid this entire narrative is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:43 AM
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The other half is who?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:38 AM
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men are too desperate, have no standards and would be with any woman how dare you have any standards, men Absolute classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:35 AM
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What should be the woman's value based on instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:31 AM
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What is high, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:29 AM
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Woah, this could be the first time woman argues against her in-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:29 AM
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How is that an argument? I could also say that if you don't know your partner is a cheater, you only have a reaction to the idea of it. So it's wrong to don't want cheaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:26 AM
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So what they believe is common sense that everyone knows but it's also a cult. You both agree and oppose it at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:16 AM
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None of those are solutions, in the same way OP criticizes redpill. If everyone does it, it becomes the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:12 AM
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So women are attracted to most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:57 AM
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You are mixing up two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:50 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:27 PM
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Sure, but I disagree with the assumption that people who struggle with dating "don't really know what "behaving like a normal/decent person" means." That's a big reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:48 PM
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Can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:46 PM
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A hundred times worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:46 PM
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I mean during the game if she was indicating a interest to you. Not what happened later.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:45 PM
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But people are means to an end. I don't interact with someone for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:40 PM
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I never dated but always had good relations with family, friends, classmates, coworkers. Just because you are horrible in one area of social interaction doesn't mean you can't do the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:39 PM
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But did the WOI give you IOI?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:37 PM
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This is a great advice. But for top 20% men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:36 PM
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My point is I wasn't confident before or during my first time, that naturally happened after it was done. Sure, you can do anything you can to prepare, but you won't be doing it with confidence. Confidence comes after being succesful, I could name a dozen other examples. A man who is about to lose his virginity will never be as confident as man who has had sex a hundred times. If confidence is required to have any success in the area, it's a no-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:28 PM
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"Fake till you make it" is an useless platitude. When I went first time on a week long cross country biking trip, I was very worried that I won't be able to make it through it all, despite lifetime of biking. If I didn't make it, how would I be able to fake it? Now, when I have done it many times, the worrying before next one is absolutely minimal and I am always ready to get into it. I can't act like something succesfully happened many times when it NEVER happened. There is simply no reference …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:08 PM
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I never said it doesn't increase odds. But I told you many times it still hinges on ability of creating that oppportunity and a woman being receptive when that happens. In your example, if he didn't create that opportunity by being repeatedly near her until it was safe to ask her out and if she didn't find him attractive then, he could have ended up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:58 PM
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I personally knew a very annoying autist, the ultra arrogant know-it-all type who never shuts up, he looked like the nerd stereotype. The entire class hated him. Yet he found a girlfriend and she wasn't ugly nor fat either. Do most male autists live in celibacy? Yeah, but exceptions do happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:17 AM
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How can you be confident in area you had no success in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:13 AM
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How did you two got together if he was shy and socially awkward?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:09 AM
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It's not absurd. You can definitely find such examples out there. But I definitely wouldn't say there is one for every chad or average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:57 AM
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I meant is an answer to your question. If two men are otherwise the same, the neurotypical one should have an advantage over ND one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:41 AM
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You answered it yourself: men who are unremarkable but otherwise fine and lead quiet lives seem to have the most difficulty You must have a trait of attraction that overrides your flaws. If you have nothing and only flaws, you'll struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:26 AM
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Whatever happened to "the dividing line is called being a Chad?" Nothing happened, that was sarcasm. The point is it doesn't matter if you call him Chad or hookup guy, the concept is literally the same. You put men in different categories and then apply different rules. Again, same concept. Then why do women complain often about getting used for sex? Didn't they vet the hot guy and put him in the right category, so why would they expect more than that then? See, what you said is not the whole st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:24 AM
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LTR guys also have to be hot, they just also have to be compatible Hookup guys just need to be hot LOL, yeah, this really convinced me there is no Chad, there is just hookup guy vs. LTR guy. Totally different. And like being hot is completely separated from who you are. Are you kidding me? Sometimes you vet, sometimes you don't, that's where different rules for different men come from. You can win by admitting what's going on instead of being mad at men for noticing it anyway. It's not that I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:52 AM
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rude, unkind, or were a joy to be around I'd empathize with someone who lost something if they weren't so sad about their loss. That's not empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:35 AM
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Nobody really specified neurotypicality, speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:11 AM
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All of those happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:10 AM
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Take note of extremely rare exceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:04 AM
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The problem is that there is no niche to maxx for most men, which would get them into respective female market for it. Some of us will keep being average, mediocre, even below average with no way out. We are not one amazing hobby away from being unique and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:02 AM
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You said in this very thread you had night one stands with some men and some men you didn't fuck on the first date. The dividing line here is being called a Chad. So it's not a figment of imagination. It's how you women act with men based on who they are, according to your own words. Obviously it's not in women's interest for men to be aware of this, so that explains your outrage about men using this concept. I am just saying the ignorance you wish for won't be happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:51 AM
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So as long as it is not "every single woman" falling for Chad, your own made up arbitrary condition, the concept of very desirable man who women break rules for and have burning desire for - can't exist. You are just offended it exposes women and their sexuality in a bad way. But you can't stop the train, there is no way you can convince men this concept is not real at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:22 AM
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And where do you see such men except your imagination? Is there real growing movement of men out there inching close to their ultimate goal of redistribution of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:07 PM
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They don't have to be. Just like nobody has to care about women's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:01 PM
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You could have been more specific. For example, would it be better if men instead of using porn used prositutes? Would it be better, if men and women instead of having sex casually married young with no fun phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:58 PM
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I am grateful. Men have had their regressions, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:55 PM
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casual sex and porn weren't normalized etc. Why is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:40 PM
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Well men, of course. But you can narrow it down by age, education, employment, mental disorders or disabilities like autism etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:37 PM
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The difference is that you have it very good, not just relatively to how you had it in the past, but relatively to the others now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:27 PM
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Look at the world, even bare minimum can't be taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:19 PM
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He's saying that to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:18 PM
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A woman could rule the world married to the best man that ever existed and still wonder if her life is good enough. At some point you have to acknowledge it's about attitude and not the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 03:12 PM
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You always produce those simplistic just world self-righteous strawmans. All men want to be "sexually promiscuous" and that makes men bad. If a man can't succeed in it, he is bad and must hate women as a response and that justifies his failure. If woman wants that, she just has human sex drive, no judgement there. Yes, I know women don't care. You are not exactly hiding your total lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:33 AM
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And nothing's stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:27 AM
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To put it bluntly, women's in-group bias should cause men to develop their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:23 AM
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So men should just take what they can get but also not be desperate, they should have standards but also not demand anything of a women. Because that's menacing and that's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:28 AM
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not remotely concerned about the feelings of men or women who require validation from the opposite sex to live a fulfilling and honorable life It's always someone who had that validation all their lives pretending to not understand why one needs it. not remotely concerned about men with sexual inhibitions or insecurities. They brought that on themselves We live in a just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:55 AM
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Yes, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:38 AM
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That's implying there is a market for that. Plenty of better looking, richer, more fun and more adventurous men to chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:51 PM
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Okay, i can relate to exactly none of that. Except maybe being the life of the party. I am wasting my time here, this is the race for the best of the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:50 PM
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And there are lots of women, with different preferences so I am sure you can find something that works for you, that fits to you. I wish. Not everything can sell. I have some nicer photos from my travels, but what am I even showing off by that? That I would pay for any trip she'd like? I can only show that I was here and there, that I like concerts, bike riding and hiking, nothing extraordinary. That's it. I can't lead with my face or body, because both is below average (except height I guess). …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:45 PM
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None of you say nor explain what is a good ad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:40 PM
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Obviously background matter, picture from your room won't be as impressive as from some world famous place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:24 PM
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I am the one who usually takes photos when I am with friends. Even if I had more photos, there is no way to know which one is good, you didn't explain the female gaze at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:23 PM
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There is a reason models are hired for ads. What does the background matter when the product is ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:19 PM
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It's hard because I don't think men are as interested in self-photography as women are so there is not much material to build profile from. If I wanted to make a dating profile (never had one), I would have like 10 photos maximum available, and that's from a past few years. Now how am I supposed to know which ones would be worthy of female gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:12 PM
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It's fucked up and wrong. What more can I say? I find porn disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:08 PM
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Because you can't really know they are unwelcome beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:25 PM
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I know it doesn't fit into your man-hating ideology, but some of us actually don't want to bother you with unwelcome advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:48 PM
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If there was indeed purity culture, the society would look very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:24 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I replied to. You can rank anyone's looks, but you can't really put them into fun or serious categories if you never interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:18 PM
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Porn has no place in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:10 PM
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And not on the idea that men are dangerous predators who only want to use and abuse women? You have women bringing up rape in this very thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:35 PM
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I mean you kinda overextended it way beyond original topic. We were just comparing who can be influenced more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 03:29 PM
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We can make a guess. It's not that hard to be a slut and even succesfully hide it, a woman just needs to make herself available and she is halfway there. An approach for a man requires a bit of a hard work, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:42 PM
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How many women who really want to have many partners are really stopped by "don't be a slut"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:09 PM
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This was made by someone who is known to be opposed to both redpill and blackpill. Why would he publish it then? I am also glad you are just so absolutely sure that getting a partner can't help at all someone with a problem of not having partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:05 PM
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Why not young women, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:58 PM
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Masturbation and pursuing a partner for sex are really not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:57 PM
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And yet, it's men who stopped expressing their sexuality, not women who stopped expressing theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:52 PM
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What I already said. Used along with "male gaze", its purpose is to demonize heterosexuality, make men feel bad and guilty for being sexually attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:49 PM
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You have the explanation in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:25 AM
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Don't women say they put in effort in their beauty for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:46 AM
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Going on a date where there is mutual interest established and creating that mutual interest in a first place are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:42 AM
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I think I saw this exact comment from you before. Yeah, is there any surprise that people act different anonymously?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:41 AM
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The point is that women don't need it as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:39 AM
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It mainly comes from households where there was a lack of affection or real model of what a relationship should look like Good point. My parents have always had very toxic unstable relationship. That gives me a desire to experience the opposite of it with someone, but with no real skills how to find and maintain that. And also a huge anxiety I will end up in the same bad circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:15 AM
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average social guy putting a bit of effort in What kind of effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:56 AM
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I think you only see success and dismiss any rejections, failure or difficulty before it. And for a lot of men it also requires a great deal of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:12 AM
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I think it's common for men to struggle despite the fact that most men end up forking. That one success can hide bunch of failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:02 AM
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That anxiety has its reasons. If there was a survey, I think plenty of men would relate to what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:43 AM
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why you don’t believe it works Maybe I consider experiences of more people. Even on this sub you should have seen plenty of testimonies how it sucks and it's a waste of time and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:12 AM
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Yes, I am aware attractive men who do attract women still exist. What I disagree with is that men don't approach because tinder works so much for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:01 AM
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I get it. You are naturally repulsed by shyness in men (which is okay, I hate it in myself too), so why not also project such traits in it? It justifies it. Seriously, my idea here isn't to portray shy people as saints who wouldn't hurt a fly. But some things are indeed unlikely. You can't be both aggressive and passive at the same time. You can't both be scared of what people'd think and also not giving a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:00 AM
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I am not saying it was done to cater to all the women. It was to draw a comparison that male sexualization is not limited while female one would not fly. Women aren't naked all the time in movies, outside sexual scenes, nor was that my point that they even should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:56 AM
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You won't get a date on Tinder either. Have you see women's swipe statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:50 AM
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Objectification alone is a toxic concept designed to shame male heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:42 AM
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Why can't you stay on topic? This is thread about men who do nothing at all to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:40 AM
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As long as there are some relationships, nothing has changed!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:38 AM
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You mean how male heroes are almost always roided chads? For example, Thor was even showed naked in his movie, can you imagine that being done to a female hero?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:37 AM
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Again, shy man is unlikely to even end up in such situation and even less just act completely opposite of their nature. It seems to me you are doing the "men are all the same" or "nice guys are the real assholes" narrative here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:32 AM
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No, I don't think the current times of "don't even dare to objectify women" were spearheaded by devout religious fanatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:28 AM
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The men who aren't even pursuing aren't splitting women into such categories. There is only one category called "she wants nothing to do with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:24 AM
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Obviously? A shy person is someone worried about themselves, how others see them, and how would they affect others. How can one be too passive and scared about having a conversation yet aggresive and brutal enough to commit rape at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:20 AM
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Sure, it's the process of growing up that seems to be missing. A puberty is supposed to change someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:16 AM
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How is fun or serious not the staple of women's sexuality? Husband material ring a bell?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:13 AM
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I guess it would be great to just blame this on religion, but we are definitely not getting stopped by our unwavering faith in god. It also doesn't seem to work on women so much. They aren't spending their youth being pure and modest, they do have their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:11 AM
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We shouldn't talk about kids here when the topic is expressing sexuality. Which is for teens and young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:07 AM
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