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Here we go again! I brought up PUAHate as an example that, well, just read the original statement again. OK, you don't dispute the point I am making the blog post, so why do you then make such a fuss? "Everybody knows" is an ugly weasel phrase. You should know that. (Hint: if "everybody knew X", then how come such people are still in business.) Also, I wasn't talking about some guys on the fringe of the community, but about a rather big name. Again, you bring up so many issues that are beside th…
/r/seduction01/04/12 11:55 PM
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So, you now quote random stuff off the Internet. Is this the ultimate ad hominem or what? I sell a book for a couple of bucks, and no $2k boot camps, and I do this as a hobby, not as an attempt to make a living. But this is all besides the point. So, let's get back to the point: What is so difficult about assessing the main statement in the blog post, namely the "fake number close"? You refuse to, thus I can only wonder about your motivation. Do you happen to be an intern at RSD or Lovesystems? …
/r/seduction01/04/12 10:38 PM
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I hope someone pays you for your defending this industry. I say: Look, here's how some PUAs trick you into believing they got a solid phone number. If you actually talked to people in this industry, and some of those who left it, you'll find many examples of shady techniques. Ever heard of people staging their videos? Oh, no, nobody does that! Sure. Or what about some company planting hookers in the environment, ensuring that their clients get laid. Sorry, you are barking up the wrong tree. Deal…
/r/seduction01/04/12 10:13 PM
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Neither do I use "PUA fear mongering", nor is my book "the same shit as everyone else peddles."
/r/seduction01/04/12 09:28 PM
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Yes, it's a free ebook. Go check it out yourself!
/r/seduction01/04/12 09:12 PM
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This isn't about who's got the bigger dick, but about the issue that in this "industry" there are a lot of people who have no business ethics. So, please stay on topic. That I have written about seduction myself is not relevant to this discussion since it doesn't undermine the argument. Please keep your lame ad hominems to yourself. I don't say, "X is lame" but always point out concrete examples. So, shall we discuss this issue or not?
/r/seduction01/04/12 09:12 PM
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Haha, stuff like this happens on "serious" bootcamps. Open your eyes!
/r/seduction01/04/12 08:32 PM
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Well, the opposite. ;) This could mean becoming part of a sub-culture, finding people with similar intellectual interests, or who want to pursue the same activities. This is one of the reasons why many find their sexual partners through work, or through the cliched dancing class. In terms of hook-ups, you probably can't do better than by entrenching yourself in a subculture and looking for available women there.
/r/seduction25/03/12 06:14 PM
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So, you are saying that "kino" will make girls attracted to you? I don't think that's correct. Of course, you have to touch them, but, as a mathematician would say, it's a necessary, not a sufficient condition. I am not a big fan of random approaches, but the general strategy of approaching girls who may be interested, and quickly moving on if they aren't, is sound.
/r/seduction25/03/12 04:15 PM
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I'll fix this. Don't be so picky, though. Those are blog posts, not academic papers, and a typo doesn't undermine the message, as you state yourself.
/r/seduction24/03/12 06:41 PM
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Of course, if you value getting laid by some random women more than self-respect, then go ahead and "plow through her shit tests". But what kind of life is this? It's certainly not what anyone would call manly.
/r/seduction24/03/12 06:22 PM
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Lame rhetorics.
/r/seduction24/03/12 06:21 PM
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But doesn't then the burden of proof lie with the "guru" to prove that his stuff works? ;) Also, there is one big "control group", namely all those guys who get laid without having ever heard of the community, or not applying any of their concepts.
/r/seduction15/03/12 02:42 PM
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But what about the claim that one guy being successful with material XYZ isn't evidence that material XYZ works? This seems much closer to the truth, and for those very few people who claim that they have profited from bootcamps, there are rather large numbers who say that it hasn't helped them one bit (once their post-boot camp high had worn off).
/r/seduction14/03/12 07:45 PM
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Dude, would you please bother to actually read the post! Johnny is now doing very well for him without "PUA" stuff, and if you dropped whatever techniques you are doing that you think are "giving you success", you would do just as well if not better. Also, "PUA gurus" claim that anyone can get hot girls, which is a blatant lie. It doesn't seem to bother you, though. Your comparison is just an example of shady rhetoric, though. Johnny has more success without PUA techniques. That's why your analo…
/r/seduction14/03/12 10:03 AM
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Provided that you are not in a relationship, how many girls have you had sex with in the last six months?
/r/seduction23/02/12 01:55 PM
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So you are saying that in theory game works 100%? If so, why is it that even the "pros" have such lousy conversion rates? Didn't Mystery himself say that he's got between 100 and 200 "lays" out of about 20,000 approaches? Your claim that your personality is "the real thing she judges" is ludicrious. Claims like this are the refuge of fat girls ("nice personality"). Nobody gives a damn about your personality if the packaging doesn't convince her. Or why do girls turn you down so quickly?
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:42 PM
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Where's your argument? All I can see is a lame "ad hominem".
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:37 PM
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OK, let's talk about numbers: How many "quality girls" do you really get? I have met plenty of people like you who defended a kind of game they never managed to apply successfully. Yet, they still stick to it mentally because it gives them guidance and a vague sense of hope.
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:35 PM
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OK, let's talk about numbers: How many "quality girls" do you really get? I have met plenty of people like you who defended a kind of game they never managed to apply successfully. Yet, they still stick to it mentally because it gives them guidance and a vague sense of hope.
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:35 PM
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That's an observation many make. Indirect game is just dishonest because you know that you approached her because you are attracted to her (if you aren't, then why did you approach her)?
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:15 PM
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You are not the minority. Usually, it's people who are stuck in their beliefs that are most vocal. Just look at, say, creationists or religious zealots in general. To people who think critically, engaging those guys is just a waste of time, but the zealots then think that merely repeating their inane views make them right. It's not unlike the direct/indirect game debate. :) There is no good example of why you shoud hide your intentions, and therefore you will notice that the defenders of indirec…
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:13 PM
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If you knew it was a bad example, then why did you use it? By doing so, you only confirm other people's suspicion that you lack experience and simply make stuff up to defend your point of view. Also, you are the one who is stuck in his way, and you were unable to bring up a convicing argument. Seeing that this failed, you resorted to a weak ad hominem attack. Nice one!
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:09 PM
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That's a point of view I agree with. Good point.
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:06 PM
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Dude, you are setting up straw men. Yes, "game" is indeed that simple. Your take, on the other hand, assumes that you can make the girl "want you". But just go out in the world and try to "win over" a random girl. Heck, you imply that it works on any girl, so why not go after Megan Fox? :P One of my main tenets is to only go after the kind of girls you want, so try harder next time. Also, your goals are up to you. I don't say that everybody has to only go for ONS. "Direct game" doesn't even impl…
/r/seduction14/02/12 12:04 PM
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Dude, it's about the success rate. I wouldn't know what's there to boast about having "opened" 10 or 20,000 girls. Next time, please read carefully. So far, I still haven't seen one convincing argument from any of the nay-sayers. Indirect game is a waste of time, because even if you end up getting the girl, it just takes you so much longer. Maybe you should peek into an Econ 101 class. A few lessons in microeconomics would do you good.
/r/seduction10/02/12 05:37 PM
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It's great to hear that! Also, I am sure that the defenders of indirect game above haven't had a "breakthrough" yet. If you don't know whether you like them or not, then you don't yet have the intention of fucking them, so there is no contradiction. But once you are attracted, you go for it, just like you said.
/r/seduction10/02/12 01:07 PM
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ijjjji knows what's going on. In fact, the whole idea of "indirect game" sounds absurd to anyone who's had success with girls. It's just dishonest, and it's only a weak attempt to protect your ego ("Hehe... She's only rejecting my approach!")
/r/seduction10/02/12 01:06 PM
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Mystery's success rate is as low as any other guy's if not worse. He mentions having approached something like 20,000 girls. So, why do you conclude that indirect game is superior? For a more in-depth discussion, see this thread on my forum: http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=850&p=2213
/r/seduction10/02/12 01:05 PM
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That's a different motivation. If you walk into a company looking for a job, it obviously wouldn't be the best move to hit on any girl.
/r/seduction10/02/12 01:00 PM
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Do you honestly think a billionaire would bother doing cold approach in a shopping mall!? They don't live in a vacuum and have plenty of girls come up to them just due to the fact that they are in a position of power. Thus your whole example crumbles.
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:58 PM
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Direct game is not about talking about sex, but merely about not hiding your intention. A question like, "Wanna hang out some time?" is direct, but it's not openly sexual.
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:57 PM
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It's good that we agree that you have to make your intention clear. Thus, please give me one compelling reason (based on reality, not theory) why you should hide it.
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:56 PM
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That's still nothing but semantics because she won't have sex with you, even though she might only have rejected "part of you."
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:55 PM
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Just focus on the very last paragraph you wrote: This is an impossibility because all girls are different. So even if you came to the conclusion that Y instead of X would have been a better choice, it won't help you because life is not like in the movie Groundhog Days. You spend too much time rationalizing your beliefs instead of taking the feedback of your environment into account. So, let me ask you: do you go out and actively approach girls? If so, don't you find that it rarely happens that y…
/r/seduction10/02/12 12:54 PM
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That's the whole issue: People think they have to "study" pickup as if its a university course, when in fact all you do is leave the house, talk to the girls, and pay attention to the reactions you get. Sure, there is a bit more to it than I wrote before, but it is fairly simple.
/r/seduction10/02/12 09:34 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:10 PM
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"Direct game" doesn't mean that you walk around and randomly grab girls' asses. All you do is being open about your intention. So, instead of Roosh's lame "What kind of pen is that?" line, you tell her that you find her attractive, and then you take it from there. If she likes you, she'll give you a shot. Indirect game is, in the best case, a waste of time. In the worst, it makes you lose girls because they aren't clear about your intentions.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:10 PM
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Do you believe that women don't get that any guy who talks to them is potentially interested in them? Just see the Chris Rock video. If we agree on that, then any defense of "indirect game" is futile because the premise of it is that you hide (!) your sexual interest and then you somehow "transition".
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:07 PM
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Why do you think that you can "build attraction"? Try to view attraction as something that is given, or not. You will be surprised how this makes your whole outlook on "game" change. Of course we can argue about semantics all day, but this is missing the point. She is indeed rejecting you "as a whole". She doesn't think, "Oh, wait, there could be x other things I could find interesting about him." Instead, she judged you quickly and concluded that she wasn't interested. It's really that simple.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:06 PM
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Thanks! Fixed it.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:02 PM
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Very briefly: work on your physique, fix your appearance, and focus on girls who seem receptive. If you do just this, you'll find that you'll do well enough.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:01 PM
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Dude, there isn't so much useful "theory" out there. You can get all necessary info in a few hours, and the rest is going out into the world.
/r/seduction09/02/12 11:19 AM
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It's very tricky for young guys who look much younger than they are. You can look a bit more mature with certain clothing, like a leather jacket, a slight tan should help too. I am not a big fan of tanning otherwise, though. Growing a beard helps, too, but this may or may not be an option. For one, some guys just don't grow much of a beard, or you may be in a line of work where you can't don one. Heck, even some universities nowadays don't allow beards, which is nothing but ridiculous. In genera…
/r/seduction09/12/11 10:55 PM
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I actually think it's covered in some interviews, and of course also in Minimal Game. Very briefly: Say "Hi!", chat for a bit (situational), figure out if she likes you, get physical fast (i.e. put your hand on her arm, or on her waist), take it from there. No pussyfooting around! I think he advocates a similar method, but I am not overly familiar with it. When I hung out with him in NYC we had better things to do than discussing how to "sarge HBs." I've picked up girls on campus and on public t…
/r/seduction09/12/11 10:42 PM
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Hey man! I'm glad I could help you. 1) Yes, we met in a club. I know that in the US some people have the perception that clubs are shady places, but it's different in Europe. In fact, I would find it odd if a girl wouldn't step foot into a bar or club, and would think she's socially retarded. All kinds of people enjoy going out, at least every now and again. 2) The standard outfit was: black pointy leather shoes, black skinny jeans, often a fancy belt (I loved a shiny white one), black tight jac…
/r/seduction09/12/11 10:35 PM
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This is a hobby. I spend most of my time on something else.
/r/seduction09/12/11 10:17 PM
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I got that. But he asked about my opinion regarding possible reasons for their awkwardness and also how to prevent this in children. You seem to have missed that part.
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:47 PM
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Try to go through the world with an open mind and don't immediately dismiss something that makes you uncomfortable. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two become more satisfied with life as a consequence.
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:45 PM
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If you can get a 5'11" blonde then you must have quite a bit going for you. In all honesty, I would talk to the girls about their issue. Either they are with you, or they aren't, but saying that they don't want to be seen with you in public is an unacceptable statement. Of course, if you've had a fling with them, then they arguably never wanted to be serious with you.
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:43 PM
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1) I've been with a few girls I had to gradually wear down. However, I think they were nonetheless initially attracted to me, but for various reasons refused to give in "too soon." In general, I am very skeptical when someone claims that you can "build attraction." Surely, she can lose her attraction for you if you are, say, too awkward. But that she'll "become attracted" after having been anything but initially is a myth in my opinion. 2) I am not a big fan of street game because people normall…
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:39 PM
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In my world view, the ultimate purpose in life is to procreate. Of course, that's just our biological role, and it is also a valid question to ask whether you want to have children in a world like this. When I was younger I thought I'd never want to have kids, but I'm beginning to change my mind. Otherwise, I hope that I'll never have to do something I don't like doing and that I'll find interesting tasks for how long as I live.
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:29 PM
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This is a topic nobody likes to talk about, but I'll be honest with you: anyone who has been with a large amount of girls is highly likely to have picked up an STD along the way. If someone told me he has fucked "over 100 women", as is seemingly the standard number aspiring PUAs mention, and also that he has never had an STD, then he is either lying about the STD or about the number of girls he's been with. I haven't caught anything serious, thankfully, but it could well have ended differently. …
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:19 PM
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I didn't know about "Kancho" before, but it seemed rather fun. The key is that guys who escalate quickly don't do it some kind of "I'm going to rape you manner", but are instead very playful about it. In this regard, the video you posted was a good example too. Your issue is that you think you have to ask for permission, or maybe you fear that she just will not like it when you touch you. However, with just a bit of experience, you can get a pretty good idea how someone would react. The guy you …
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:16 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. My voice is rather dead-pan as well, and my sense of humor often dry if not sarcastic. Most girls have no sense of humor anyway. But to improve your vocal tone, all you have to do is practice public speaking. There are often opportunities, especially if you are still at university. Friends of mine have joined Toastmasters and benefited enormously from it. Two of my friends have gone down the stand-up comedy route. This seems to be a very nerve-racking experien…
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:12 PM
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Hey man, thanks for your support! Please let me know how you like the book. I presume that your wive knows about your interest in meeting other girls. Somehow I get the impression that you want to have threesomes with her and another girl. If this is the case, then you could just place ads, or seek out clubs that cater to that audience. In any bigger city there should be either a fetish club or at least such a club night, and you can meet people there who will be very open. This should also help…
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:05 PM
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Let me know how you like the book! What is a male 3 or 4 to you? If you want to imply that you are seriously overweight and have bad clothes, then hit the gym hard, fix your nutrition, and once you start losing weight, get better clothes.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:57 PM
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I think we are talking about different kinds of feminists. I was talking about the kind of man-hating feminist you certainly would not want to fuck. They are far different from some random girl that just regurgitates some nonsense about, say, the gender pay gap myth.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:55 PM
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You seem to think that you can automatically get a girl into a relationship, but this is a big step for girls as well, and they often carefully think about it. Of course, some will refuse to, and since their social skills are often not that well-developed, they rather text you instead of talking to you face-to-face. You have done everything you could, but it was still her choice to come along, or not.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:53 PM
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I am not sure I follow. Of course, if your friends are good with girls, they have no reason to google for "how to pull chicks". That's obvious.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:51 PM
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I found it interesting that your response was rather practical and straightforward. What else did you expect? Bizarre hypotheses are the domain of some other guys, but since I was always drawn to formal sciences, my tolerance for anything speculative is rather low. What makes a night club a good one for picking up? In my experience, it's much easier to pick up in larger venues that hold a few hundred people. So-called "super clubs" are a bit tricky, though, because they can't afford to be to spe…
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:49 PM
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For the useful information, you can check my forum, which has a selection of a lot of my classic posts, and overall high-quality content: http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/ Further, you'll find a very short introduction to seduction in Debunking the Seduction Community, and then there's of course my latest book Minimal Game, which is arguably the most straightforward book on seduction market.
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:38 PM
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If she's not into you and not just pretending to be not interested, then feel free to move on. What else would you do? If you actually panic, then learn to relax. Meditation works well, and so does autogenic training. If you feel as if you're losing her, then you have lost her already. You ask questions to keep the interaction alive, but you fail to realize that she just isn't interested. Otherwise, she'd contribute something herself. I know that "PUAs" speak about the 90/10 rule, i.e. you are s…
/r/seduction09/12/11 04:35 PM
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I either ignore or mock them, depending on my mood and the situation.
/r/seduction09/12/11 03:01 AM
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You're very welcome.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:48 AM
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Theillbehaviored: You talk negatively about MM's linear model, because you already know what your doing, but for someone who has NO IDEA what there doing it is helpful. Seriously, I rather follow an overly elaborate plan then have no plan at all, atleast then I always have a way to handle contingencies. Your argument against it is that you can usually seduce a girl much faster without going through all the steps- current day PUA resources recognize this fact- RSD refers to it as 'excessive gamin…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:41 AM
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I got that. A bad joke gets even worse when people explain it afterwards. ;)
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:37 AM
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A lot of people swear by a lot of things. All I am saying is that I provide a much simpler and more effective version. You can of course spend hours memorizing openers instead, if it makes you happy. (I have never used a scripted opener, by the way.) So, why don't you just try some of my material and let me know how it goes? You may be pleasantly surprised.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:36 AM
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Theillbehaviored: I have studied pickup theory from MM, RSD and SS and have used elements of MM and RSD in field successfully; never had a chance to use SS yet. Would you thus conclude that studying SS wasn't the best use of your time. If not, then please explain why. You make it seem as though your ideas are SO revolutionary and profound, I have heard many of them from other PUA sources. You listed so many discrepancies within the community yet only offer a handful of alternatives, most of thos…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:33 AM
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Is this your attempt at being funny? We went to places like Fledermaus (Sunday), Fluc, Flex, and some others.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:28 AM
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Last time I checked, many did indeed claim that their solution works for everyone, “no matter how you look, how much money you make, or where you live.” Iif I had a dollar for every time I read “make any woman fall in love/want to fuck you” or something similar, I could have bought my own airline years ago. Whether those methods “work” is questionable too. In many cases, you get the girl despite using them. Let me just ask you one simple question: “Do you actually have success using any of those…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:27 AM
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In 2005 Prenzlauer Berg had a pretty decent nightlife. One club was actually infamous for how easy it was to get laid there. Europeans are more relaxed about bars and clubs in general. I also got the vibe that some people view it as immoral to go to clubs. Have you been to Vienna yet? I spent a few days there this summer and was surprised how friendly the girls were, and they know how to party, too, unlike the Germans who often have to have a couple of beers before they dare to awkwardly move th…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:22 AM
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Of course, you can't really talk in clubs. So you either meet them on the dance floor, and drag them off as soon as you can, and where you can have a conversation without having to scream into each other's ears. Or, your linger in the more quiet areas, which could be the bar, a hallway, or some chill-out lounge. If you view yourself as an "AFC", then change! Join a couple of student societies, and get used to being around people.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:17 AM
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Are you talking about actual relationships? To met it seems as if you are describing casual relationships, flings, fuck buddy arrangements, affairs, or whatever else you want to call it. In those, women normally don't have a lot of loyalty and just drop you if they've gotten bored of you or someone better came along.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:14 AM
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I have only spent about two months in total in the US so far, so, naturally, I am more attuned to the European crowd. However, my perception was that New York and Chicago are great spots for a single man to spend his time. In another post, you wrote that people are very approachable in Berlin, but that's nothing compared to NYC where you only have to step into a bar and women will come talk to you. The explanation is probably the significant surplus of single women in this city.
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:11 AM
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Which city do you compare it to? Also, you have to distinguish between tourists and the locals. The former are of course much more open to meeting new people. Berlin is certainly a nice city, but the nightlife was much better years ago. This is not just a sentimental statement. Just take a walk through Prenzlauer Berg, the district the New York Times probably still raves on about. A couple of years ago you'd have a few cozy bars and decent clubs but they are all gone now. It turned out that youn…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:08 AM
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Then you got the wrong impression of my game. Yes, it's great when there's a woman out there on her own, but this doesn't happen a lot. Thus, you try to get her away from her group. Not all groups are approachable per se, but if you see an opening, e.g. because they are standing a bit further apart, you walk up to her. If someone from her group tries to interfere, he or she will often just want to check whether everything is fine or whether she feel harassed. After the girl has told them that ev…
/r/seduction09/12/11 02:00 AM
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It's good to have someone who knows his Bible among us! Thanks for those elaborations.
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:49 AM
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Buzz_Le_Dingo: What is your opinion on monogamy? Is it sustainable in the long run, or will you likely have some kind of open relationships for most of your life? Ask me again in thirty years! I am currently in a monogamous relationship and very happy with it. I have tried open relationships and other correlations, but they were not much more than glorified “fuck buddy” arrangements, with some additional downsides, so I didn’t pursue this path any further. No matter what you prefer, though, ther…
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:45 AM
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Buzz_Le_Dingo: Do you still mostly meet women at clubs or has that changed & how/why? It’s been a while since I went to a club. This part of my life may be over. You have to see that I am in my early thirties now, and after a few years in this scene, you really do grow a bit tired of it. (I do have plans to release a book on “club game” that collects what I learnt from playing that kind of game very successfully for a long time.)
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:39 AM
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Buzz_Le_Dingo: Since you were so heavy into clubs, did you ever find that you were really good at meeting people at night, but still experienced social anxiety during the day, at work, etc.? How did you make the transition to a more "normalized" way of being? Actually, I don’t think there’s a big difference in principle. Admittedly, I don’t like the idea of “street game” as you often really just intrude on other people. This was demonstrated very well by some “PUA” I hung out with in London once…
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:38 AM
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Buzz_Le_Dingo: Hi Aaron! I was never a big talker and you were one of the first guys I modeled when learning this stuff. I’m pleased to hear that and feel flattered. I’m not a big talker either, by the way, because I find small talk incredibly boring. What is your take on evolutionary psychology as it applies to women, relationships, and seduction? I have read Sex at Dawn and it was pretty convincing, as well as debunking some old evo-psych theories. Have you read it and if so what's your take? …
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:35 AM
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JohnnyBaap: I am presently living in a relatively small city where cold approach is not very common. So social circle becomes very important. How to get more practice with sexual escalations in this environment? In a cold approach setting, it is easier to take more risks, and after enough practice, you can get good at it. I can't be very reckless in a social circle environment. So in this setting, could you give any tips on how you could show sexual interest in a girl, and how you could "test th…
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:33 AM
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JohnnyBaap: I have a question regarding physical escalation. Could you give a few tips on how to escalate smoothly in an interaction where the girl is showing interest? My current problem is that I initially came from a position where I was just not escalating at all on any women. Now trying to reverse that scenario by being aggressive, my escalations have become very uncalibrated. Right now my strategy is to just push it and hopefully after some practice, I will get better. I read your post on …
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:31 AM
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When I first stumbled upon the "seduction community", I thought that it was all rather sleazy, so I picked that adjective as my forum handle. That I later on developed a kind of game that was indeed "sleazy" is one of the ironies of life.
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:24 AM
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drufs: What is your opinion on why men (especially a great percentage of the seduction community) are so socially awkward? Is it a factor in their childhoods? Is it the media and Hollywood shoving "ideal romance" down their throats? Is it parenting, the lack of father figures, and being raised primarily by women? A combination there-of? How can we prevent this in our own children? I think it’s a combination of all the factors you have listed. Many boys nowadays grow up in broken homes, and don’t…
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:19 AM
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You talkin' to me?
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:10 AM
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Thanks for correcting this. Yes, this was a typo. I meant to write, "Let's get out of here."
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:09 AM
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Touché! I wasn't necessarily referring to the Bible in toto but merely to that particular metaphor. ;)
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:07 AM
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drufs: "Fix your life first, and the women will come." A 5/10/whatever bullet list of things all men can immediately apply to their lifestyle that would make them into A Better Man. Elaboration would be cool, but a bite-size version would also be cool for the ADHD crowd. Another way to ask this would be "5/10 steps incoming noobs should apply before even thinking about seduction techniques". Off the top of my head, I'd say that those are the most important basic issues: Living where there are en…
/r/seduction09/12/11 01:02 AM
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That's a lot of questions. I don't feel like going into too much detail. We've been together for quite a while. One of the things that are special about us is that I feel at home when I am with her, and I am sure she feels the same. My "profession" is not that much of an issue. After all, it's more like a hobby anyway. These days, I focus on phone consultations and writing books, and I don't see how she could have a problem with that.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:56 AM
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MonkeySteriods: Correct my if I'm mistaken, but your system suggests one on one seduction, rather than dealing with groups. [Picking out girls away from the group rather than with their group]. Why would you pick this route? It seems a bit unusual and more for people looking to avoid solving their issue with AA. The most compelling reason is that it’s much faster and leads to infinitely greater success. Entertaining groups is more often than not just a waste of time. If you think you’d have no a…
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:51 AM
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1) This is a difficult question to answer because there are so many variables. However, having met plenty of guys I considered “average”, i.e. you wouldn’t turn your head when they walked past you, but who were determined enough to pursue women until the bitter end, I got the impression that at least one girl every two weeks is possible. This means one girl out of four nights. But, frankly, if you are “average looking” and really want to get laid at all costs, you only have to lower the bar. I’v…
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:43 AM
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JohnnyBaap: I know you like sexy stereotyping a lot. Could you suggest how one could figure out which sexy stereotype will best work for a person? Most of the people who I see using this to best effect are those who use the "rockstar" or the "wall street banker" stereotype. Could you give examples of what other stereotypes can one use? Just briefly about myself - 24 year old, 5'9", about 140lbs, very skinny, brown skinned guy. Any suggestions on what might work for me would be sincerely apprecia…
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:37 AM
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JohnnyBaap: In your view, what are some of the things which guys who are from ethnic minorities looking to seduce regular chicks do to maximize their chances? I read your advice that you should stick to more "international" type events. That works very well for me. Any other things which you feel might help? If it works for you, then keep doing it! In general, though, you should try to seek out situations in which your minority status would be a benefit. For instance, if you were a Spaniard livi…
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:35 AM
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indigObstacle: You mentioned that one of the reasons you were able to get really good really fast was that the rest of your life was in good order. I think that a lot of students of seduction have the belief (whether to their knowledge or not) that seduction is an area of their lives that is unrelated to the other areas like socialization, health, fitness, work, money, etc. This is not the case, though, and all areas of life are interconnected in ways that are not immediately obvious. I learned …
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:32 AM
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Yes. Put the books down, and if you see a woman tomorrow that smiles at you or looks in your direction, walk up to her and say, "Hi!" Even if it doesn't end well, you'll get so much great feedback out of it, most importantly you'll know that you can actually just walk up to a woman, that you will find it much easier to talk to the second woman. And everything else will build upon that!
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:29 AM
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No, he shouldn't. By doing so, you'll only encourage the girl to do all kinds of nonsense she otherwise wouldn't.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:27 AM
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When I got into pickup I was finishing an MSc at the London School of Economics. There is a big difference if you want to only go through a lot of women and not keep them, or be a viable option for a relationship. Some of the most "unconventional" people I know have absolutely not shortage of women, but that's because they not only portray the "bad boy" image, they also have plenty of time to hang out with them. (I'm speaking of musicians and artists.) If your life choices don't allow for such f…
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:25 AM
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If you want something crazy, then makeout, proceed to fingering her, make her cum, and then put your dick in. This is a progression that works very well, but I don't know how much resistance those girls put up. Of course, I've heard the "We can't do this" line plenty of times myself, but this is something you can either completely ignore, or say something like, "I know," or "Shh...:" and continue regardless.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:20 AM
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With regards to Zen I am also mostly an autodidact. I had read Eugen Herrigel's "Zen in the Art of Archery", and some translated spiritual texts. After watching a video on a Zen monastery, I began practicing it myself. I used to focus on the breath for a while as a means to control my thoughts. In some texts, people say you should focus on something on the wall, because otherwise, when you are starting out, you'll find it too difficult to mentally calm down. This is a technique I can definitely …
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:17 AM
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Oh, I forgot to mention that I never drink, and don't do drugs either. So the problem you describe is one I am not personally familiar with as I tend to notice early when a girl is a bit crazy.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:08 AM
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djmarco: Hi.what do you think about Jeffy? from RSD? I've met him and he is cool and no nonsense guy. anyway Can you give a break down how to do dancefloor game? I am interested in Dancefloor game but I can hook a set more than 2 mins or friends will ALWAYS cockblock. Thanks. I haven’t met Jeffy and I am not overly familiar with him. People say he loves to fuck fat girls, but if that's what he likes... One thing I found odd about him, though, is that he seems to extremely exaggerate the quality …
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:07 AM
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You mean the women find it weird that you approach them?
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:02 AM
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Then just play it cool and go down the "fuck buddy" route. Many girls are fine with it, especially when there are no potential boyfriends on the scene.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:00 AM
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It's a bit different. The idea is to sleep with every girl you want to sleep with and later on figure out whether you'd want to be in a relationship with her. Since you don't immediately commit, you'll have plenty of time to get to know her. (I talk about this in some detail in Minimal Game.) Unstable girls usually show their true colors very early anyway. They are unstable, after all.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:59 PM
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The beginner should go out and get his feet wet, and just push himself. With just a bit of perseverance he'll figure a lot out by himself. (I think most go wrong by consuming too much information, and bad advice, which is so rampant in this industry.) The intermediate guy probably just needs to push for sex or meeting up with the girl. If you make out with her, tell her to "get out of there." A big issue of those guys seems to be that they prefer the gratification they get from kissing the girl …
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:57 PM
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It really depends on what your goal in life is. The last thing I want to claim is that everybody should make picking up women the main priority in life. If you excel at school, and don't have much interest in other people, then focus on your academics, get a good job (or start your own business) and have your pick among the trophy wives later on. Of course, until then you should pick up some social skills so that you can handle her. "One-itis" is a feeling you get because you don't have enough e…
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:53 PM
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I grew tired of ONS in mid-2009, to be honest. This was when I shifted to a similar arrangement than you. So we are on the same page here. Right now I am in a monogamous relationship. Pick up, as in trying to get girl after girl, is, in my opinion, just a phase you go through, and normally not a lifestyle you'd want to sustain until you hit the grave. By the way, clubs aren't actually that bad. I've found that there is a lot of variety in the personality of the girls. You can even find the occas…
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:48 PM
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IV-65536: You say you teach good guys how to get better. What are these >already-good guys lacking that experience doesn't correct? By “good" in this context I mean guys who have been with a few women, and ideally have had one or two one-night stands. What I try to avoid is getting a complete newbie who would need to fix so many basics that he won’t get that much out of a one-on-one. With those, I prefer just doing a phone session to get them into the right direction, and if they later on need m…
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:43 PM
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That's a tricky question, but that's because I think the modus operandi to fuck a girl to become friends with her is a bit strange when based on an ONS. If your goal is to hang out with more girls, then get them into a casual relationship afterwards, hang out occasionally and fuck every now and again.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:40 PM
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Spanking. Biting. Scratching. Pulling Hair. Lots of Lube. Is this enough?
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:36 PM
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Go for it when you feel like it! "Mainstream game" is too focussed on kissing, and exchanging numbers, as a signpost. But this is a twisted view. Kissing is optional, and just because you know you can kiss her, or she wants to kiss you doesn't mean that you have to. Not kissing a girl even though "it is in the air" is a great way to build sexual tension. Also, you don't even necessarily have to kiss a girl to have sex with her. I've done some "research" on that.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:36 PM
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But what did they think would happen back at your place? If you figure out that she's a bit self-conscious, then just take your time. For instance, give her a massage, or spend an inordinate amount of time on foreplay, to make her feel really comfortable. 19 year-olds are usually quite experienced, so it shouldn't necessarily be an age-issue.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:33 PM
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"Target" is standard PUA lingo. Yet, it does sound fucked up. You can even see before the approach whether she's potentially interested in having sex that night. One indication is how much skin she is showing (there is nowadays even academic research confirming this). Other women aren't advertising themselves quite so loudly. Thus, just walk up to them if you find them interesting, and see how it goes. If she starts to touch you, or, e.g., seems to enjoy you putting your hand on her waist, then …
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:30 PM
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I know. But the same question could have been asked much differently. The Bible says, "You will always harvest what you plant."
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:26 PM
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Do you have a good reason to listen to those people? Often they are just envious anyway. When I was moving back to Berlin, from London, I shared an apartment with four other people, and some didn't particularly like that I has so many "guests." So, what do you think I have done? Cave in or tell them that it's none of their business? I'd say ignore it, and if they question you, call them out for their hypocrisy.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:25 PM
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Most guys have a lower threshold for a ONS, or let's better say they have a different set of priorities. There are girls out there you'd probably love to fuck but would never want to be in a relationship with. That being said, though, you can "run the same game" on the girl regardless of your intention. I advise guys to sleep with the girl first anyway. This is important because you surely wouldn't want to find out after half a year of asexual dating that the two of you aren't compatible in the …
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:22 PM
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TheDukeDevlin: It seems to me a linchpin of what you teach is cutting out the fluff and focusing on what actually works. Do you have any advice on how we can apply occams razor to our game and separate what really works from "fluff?" That’s a great question! First, you have to have a lot of experience. Say, you’ve only slept with three girls in your life, and base your opinions solely on that. Of course, it’s understandable if you think that it’s necessary to take them out on dates, and talk to …
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:19 PM
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Frogma: How do you deal with LMR? Can you give me an example of a time where everything seemed to be going right but you still got nothing out of it? LMR is actually a big mystery to me, no pun intended. I don't think I have ever encountered it. Sometimes there are some logistical hurdles, but that’s a different story. For instance, a couple of years ago I found myself undressing a girl I had pulled from an after-hour, and what happens? Her mother calls, showering her with accusations because it…
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:17 PM
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You seem to have the misconception that only stupid women like to fuck. This is certainly not the case. Most of the girls I've been with were rather educated. I'm not aware of even one girl who didn't finish college, if this one of your criteria for "stupidity." Besides, I am sure I have met many women who were more intelligent and educated than, say, you, simply because I have attended some highly selective universities. This remark is just to keep your ego in check, because you obviously need …
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:13 PM
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I'm online now: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/n5gjr/iama_mpua_with_aaron_sleazy_ask_me_anything_you/ Join the discussion!
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:08 PM
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I'm online now: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/n5gjr/iama_mpua_with_aaron_sleazy_ask_me_anything_you/ Please join he discussion!
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:07 PM
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Blake277: in your experience --- what percentage of women were out alone, vs with friends? In clubs, it's indeed rare that women go on their own. I couldn't give you a percentage, but it would be a very small number.
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:06 PM
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Blake277: My question is about sexual tension. I tend to talk quite a bit upon meeting a new girl - not because I'm naturally talkative, but because it feels more comfortable to do so. I understand that this often takes a lot of the tension away, but I seem to always default back to it as the sexual tension makes me uncomfortable; I don't know how to deal with it. Does the discomfort come from not knowing what to do with this tension? And what are some practical solutions (e.g. mediation, etc) t…
/r/seduction08/12/11 11:04 PM
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Great! I like your attitude. Please post the link to your pictures as soon as I can. If I find the time, I'll have a look at them before the AMA starts.
/r/seduction08/12/11 01:27 AM
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Frogma, could you please fix the first link in the announcement to "www.aaronsleazy.com". Thanks! Yes, SS is Speed Seduction. It's an acronym Jeffries uses himself, if I recall correctly. Peacocking is not the same as "having style". I'll talk about this in the AMA. Regarding dressing with a sense of style, Mystery is far from it, though. SS has one major flaw, which I will tell you about on Thursday. My approach can't be a mix between RSD's drunk fratboy style and Rob Judge's, because I am not …
/r/seduction05/12/11 01:00 PM
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Well, you'll still be better off talking about something they actually find interesting.
/r/seduction05/12/11 12:55 PM
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You are aware that not many girls are fond of mathematics, aren't you?
/r/seduction04/12/11 11:28 PM
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Well, I had worked on other areas in my life, too. The big difference between me, though, and many others is that I was in a great starting position when I finally began with pick-up because the "foundations" were all in order, and that's why I got good so quickly.
/r/seduction03/12/11 03:17 PM
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You'll get that list. However, to make it more concrete, I could tailor the advice to you personally, if you want. Yes, I am in a generous mood today. All you have to do is putting a few pictures of you online (feel free to put a black bar over your eyes), describe what you do, where you live, you know, basic data, as well as how you pick up women (and how successful you are). In return, you'll get concrete advice that will help you to (hopefully) improve noticeably. Just post the anonymized inf…
/r/seduction03/12/11 03:13 PM
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Just to correct this before anyone draws any false conclusions and wants to bring it up in his question: I did not learn from Jeffries and Mystery. My mentor was a guy from mASF called "Nashville Playboy" (also not a big fan of the seduction industry) who gave some some great feedback when I was starting out, and after a few successes I quickly developed my own style. I will address your point about SS in the AMA because it has a very interesting implication.
/r/seduction03/12/11 01:47 PM
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I think so, too! Thanks for pointing this out. I will indeed focus a lot on "natural" seduction in my answers, and, no, it won't have anything to do with "Woo and Intent" ala "Natural Tim" from Real Social Dynamics, but on how "cool guys" get laid.
/r/seduction03/12/11 01:37 PM
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It will be fun to reply to you in detail next Thursday. Fasten your seatbelt, buddy. :)
/r/seduction02/12/11 10:59 AM
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That's what I wanted to hear! I think handing out your number is something gimmicky you can do if you've got plenty of girls coming after you anyway, but, as I said before, it will not really work for someone who only gets a fighting chance. I think Brent Smith advocates something similar, but, again, if you just follow his advice without knowing what Brent looks like, you may be in for a big surprise. The bottom line is that a guy who has a lot going for him usually gets a rather big margin of …
/r/seduction01/12/11 08:37 PM
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OK, post a picture of yourself, and of some of the women you are pulling. Feel free to put black bars over your and their eyes. You are not having success because you hand out your number, but of something else you've got going for you. Apparently it's something you are oblivious to.
/r/seduction01/12/11 07:41 PM
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Dude, you are a very good looking guy, which is why girls pursue you. For guys who have to put in more effort, giving out their number and hoping for a response is a recipe for disaster.
/r/seduction01/12/11 05:29 PM
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