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Abadoobie/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:21 AM
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OutrageAbadoobie/r/MensRights11/09/14 06:26 AM
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The same way feminists speak with such authority about literally everything.
/r/MensRights29/12/18 12:07 AM
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Or smelly dicks, or hairy dicks, or wrinkly balls, or misshapen heads, or not being circumcised, or small balls, or cold temp shrinkage or just general 'dicks are ugly' sentiments.
/r/MensRights28/12/18 01:05 PM
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Power and control. If they can ruin his career over consentual, if perhaps unpleasant interactions, it validates and justifies that power.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 06:21 AM
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Illegal has never been a requirmemt for feminist outrage.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 06:17 AM
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Not really a glass basement though, nobody is looking down and wondering why they cant get there.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 11:24 PM
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In developed nations they also outperform boys in everything but math and physics, sometimes significantly (reading), starting from elementary school through to post-secondary(PISA stats). Women also have higher post secondary enrollment rates and earn more degrees except for doctorates. Boys are being left behind and ignored while still more resources are spent on advancing women and girls. When is it enough? What outcome is being targetted? 50% of all public resources devoted to women and girl…
/r/MensRights07/06/18 07:12 AM
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A man's role is to produce an excess of value which is then consumed by leaders, women and children. Society doesn't want to devote resources to assisting men or hearing their troubles. There is a great aversion to it. If you are a man with complaints or significant needs, you are a burden and become a drain on the value claimed by others. The bigger your net contribution, the more problems will be tolerated so long as you keep producing. If you produce no excess value, you are abandoned with li…
/r/MensRights07/06/18 06:53 AM
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Lol best answer.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 07:17 PM
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And I could point to the Catholic Church and other religions that have abused, predominantly boys, for decades without punishment. I could point to sex trafficking of boys getting a fraction of the attention girls and women get. One example doesn't disprove my point.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 03:21 PM
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You're a delightful fellow aren't you?
/r/MensRights14/05/18 03:17 PM
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I'm talking about men abusing boys, not girls.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 08:56 AM
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Honestly there isn't a lot of justice if they are abused by men either.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 01:34 AM
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We do. Slowly, but we do.
/r/MensRights13/05/18 11:08 PM
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"Women claim not enough resources spent on them, demand more collective resources devoted to improving their lives exclusively." Sounds about right.
/r/MensRights02/04/18 02:53 AM
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Ah yes, Women using thier children as a shield against punishment. Classic.
/r/MensRights31/03/18 06:12 PM
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It's great to tell men to be more open, be vulnerable and less stoic but nobody is there to listen to them or help them and we're certainly not willing to change anything to help that. When it comes to issues men face, the solution is almost always that men must change themselves, that's it.
/r/MensRights26/03/18 01:27 AM
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"The researchers also found that when men acted assertive and warm — in general, not considered the norm for male behavior — they reported lower incivility from their male counterparts. This suggests men actually get a social credit for partially deviating from their gender stereotypes, a benefit that women are not afforded. " I didn't know being assertive and warm deviated from male gender roles.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 09:07 PM
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Woman demands man be punished and shunned for making her feel something unpleasant. Women band together online and force organization to ignore any sense of fairness, equality or justice, chastizing and shunning him over vague indefensible femenist concepts of social propriety.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 08:42 AM
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But they don't. Women are very accustom to working by proxy, often through the men in their lives, to get what they want. They are very effectively creating the kind of expansive social, welfare state that will protect and service thier interests without having to directly do anything.
/r/MensRights03/02/18 02:05 AM
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They will if they're young or if they're desperate. They tend to stick around a bit in those cases but will leave if it takes too long or if they lose faith. But you won't know until thier gone.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/17 12:09 AM
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Doubtful. That vanity and superficial distractions of women are LONG told tales across culture and time. The world changed to allow greater indulgence but women are the same. Writers and philosophers have long ago surmised the very conclusions we can now prove true.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/17 07:50 AM
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Which is rather ironic since they lust most heavily after men who took risks and succeeded.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/17 07:47 AM
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...stealing his child from him and pushing it on another man.> This is an often overlooked fact in these cases. There are fathers out there whose relationship with thier child can be denied by a mother for any reason she sees fit. It is not a crime, she is under no obligation to even attempt to inform him and he may never know he has a kid.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 05:13 PM
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I think a case could be made that the push for more feminine men is a subconscious shit test of sorts. Women may really want men who never genuinely need support and who can endure hardship without 'breaking' because that is a masculinity they are attracted to. They say they want men to open up and be more vulnerable but maybe they really want men who can respond to that request by not ever needing to. In doing so as a group, women are filtering out the most masculine from the least. Men who rej…
/r/MensRights09/09/17 04:48 AM
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HE might not have planned for it.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 06:20 AM
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Multiple staff members viewed the victim while he was incapacitated, including after he was deceased,” a Denver police report said. “The complainant, Risk Management for Denver Health, made a mandatory report.”> Before AND after he died. As a group and in a setting where they are invested with both power and trust over helpless patients, they sexually violated this man. If I pulled a woman's shirt off specifically to look at her tits, told my friends about it who then also did the same, all the …
/r/MensRights07/09/17 06:30 AM
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Rape isn't a crime in a lot of places, it's classified under Sexual Assault.
/r/MensRights20/08/17 10:20 PM
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In a similar way, wealth disparity as a cause of inequality, oppression and subjugation is also ignored in favor of blaming men for the plight women feel they endure.
/r/MensRights01/03/17 07:37 AM
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I would be interested in that survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:55 AM
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Effective stoicism isn't emotional management but emotional repression. The two are related and inverse.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 09:17 AM
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The capacity for stoicism is incredibly useful in countless circumstances, particularly for men. It does however almost always come at the cost of being less capable of being emotional. Stoicism and emotionalism are opposites.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 05:53 AM
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Maybe you're right. I just think there are way too many pressures keeping support needing men from being desirable or valuable. If that kind of man isn't valued, men will stay away from being that kind of man. I don't think a good deed here and there is nearly enough to change anything.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 08:28 AM
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And when they are replaced, lower paying jobs for even more desperate people will be created. There is already a lack of meaningful entry level jobs. Entry level suggest there is somewhere else to go and there often isn't. The ceiling starts and ends at entry level. At some point, the economy's inability to produce enough well-paying jobs to support the population will result in mass poverty, mass unrest and immense suffering. And that's in the richest nation in the history of the world.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 07:39 AM
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Yet we're burdened with their care nonetheless. We're not paid, but we're forced to do so anyways. It does matter, emasculating someone isn't going to help them. A lot of men kill themselves specifically because of the emasculation they've endured. But a man who didn't need your help is a more attractive, more capable and more valuable male and is rewarded for it. Society doesn't give a shit about men in need. If it did, we wouldn't be dealing with these issues in the first place. The bottom lin…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 07:30 AM
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Your comments make little sense, perhaps you should rephrase your thoughts.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 07:10 AM
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Women practice emotional abuse through isolation. They make immense demands on time, attempt to cull their partner's social circle and demand to be their partners main source of emotional and psychological coping. And they often succeed, It's no wonder so many mend break when their relationships end. The woman has become their entire support system it's completely removed at the very time it's needed most. In addition, women shame, ridicule and nag men to change how they cope as to be more depen…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 10:11 AM
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And that's it. Women break more often than men do, but they have all kinds of socially created coping mechanisms to help them mend.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 10:02 AM
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It isn't eggs so much as the means of production of offspring requires immense investment of resources for women and little for men. Further to that, male disposability is fundamentally linked to the male role in protecting those baby makers from harm as they become more vulnerable during pregnancy. Women are more valuable over their lives than men simply from their role in reproduction. In order for a culture in which men face the risks and dangers of protection to exist, the society MUST be ab…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 10:01 AM
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Only if you consider historic revisionism and a fluid sense of morality and ethics "dealing with the consequences". In my experience women respond to wrongdoing in one of two ways: A) They attempt to absolve themselves of guilt by suggesting other people do it too. Which some how makes it okay. B) They conceptualize(often with other women's help) their actions in a way that avoids any moral or ethical conflicts(AKA hamstering). This is done through a combination of historic revisionism and a red…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:54 AM
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It's because they are fucking blind. Men and women face very different challenges in life. Women only see the ways men seem to handle, or not have to endure, the shit THEY find challenging. If it's easy for him and hard for her, that means he's some how privileged. But they ignore the challenges men face because they don't consider those things challenges. Most of men's challenges are either not challenges for women, they didn't experience them so they can't conceive of the issue as a challenge,…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:40 AM
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Except that such a thing is a form of support/assistance and such a thing is repugnant to the concept of masculinity. A masculinity that women, often more so than men, have shaped and continue to enforce. What woman is going to want a man that has to rely on his friends for assistance? Men who can handle their own shit are rewarded far more than men who accept aid.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:13 AM
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Service sector jobs are increasing because the value of labor has, and continues to, drop steadily. We have an excess of labor in America but a high demand for employment. The result is that the excess labor gets put to use in jobs that are low quality and low pay and only exist because we have so much labor. Most of these jobs wouldn't exist if there was a labor shortage as they wouldn't be financially viable at higher wage levels. It's because they can pay eager workers so little that service …
/r/TheRedPill16/11/15 09:01 AM
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Women don't want to defend themselves, they want someone else to defend them.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 05:18 AM
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How do you differentiate a victim from a fake victim?
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 10:06 PM
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We are driven to follow our natures. But those natures can be manipulated to some extent and are different for men and women. Women are sensitive to emotions and rely on them to help serve their role in society and in relation to men. This also makes them emotionally indulgent(prioritizing feelings over rationality, opinion over fact), less rational(in frequency and intensity), more easily manipulated, untrustworthy, impulsive and less reliable. But it also makes them better nurturers for young …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:12 AM
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I am well acquainted with the role emotions play in my life and the pleasures and pains they bring. I am also well aware that I am vulnerable because of my emotions. It is partly because of this awareness that I consider emotions to be a weakness. How are they key to our survival in the present environment? I would suggest they aren't, that they are a primitive system of decision making that is significantly inferior to reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:39 AM
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Nothing is anything on it's own. A thing is defined by it's relation to other things. To follow your logic is to say that a thing can not be weak in isolation. And you would be right but it can't be anything else either. So that's not really what is being considered here. Emotions in context are what is being considered and I think they are a weakness. They pressure us to make terrible decisions, they can be easily used to control us, they give us poor data about reality leading to poor decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 09:15 PM
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Emotions won't be a perfect guide to reality--they won't necessarily tell you what to do in a situation. But they will give you data and information about situations and about yourself No one is arguing they are a perfect guide and while they provide data, their fallibility means they are a vulnerability and thus a weakness. And they are extremely fallible which means their data is often inaccurate. What you do with it is up to you but a person who feels an emotion is not primed to be less ratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:30 AM
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Emotions do not have to completely overwhelm someone to affect decision making and influence behavior in a way that undermines rational judgements. Emotions are not just data. The main role of emotions is as action provoking agents. They incite one to act. They create the impulse to move, to pull, to scream, to run, to fight, to touch, to look. They are the result of the sub-conscious analysis of data provided by the senses. They are the conclusion, not the process, the firm hand that directs hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:31 AM
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So is your preference for stoicism then a result of this emotionally unbearable perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:45 AM
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Emotionally unbearable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:00 AM
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What motivates your desire for meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:47 AM
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What motivates your search for truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:36 PM
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So you find stoicism emotionally gratifying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:49 PM
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Emotion is weakness. Emotion is the mechanism used to illicit action from you. It does so to deal with immediate, present conditions and has no consideration for the future. Emotion is kept in check by conscious will, the capacity to behave in ways in opposition to the visceral pressure to act created by those emotions. The stronger your will, the greater range and strength of emotion one can endure while maintaining a conscious direction. Being incapable of enduring the pressure of emotions is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 10:47 PM
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Fuck yeah, gimme more of that deliciously accurate Daily Mail!
/r/PussyPass27/05/15 06:53 AM
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If knowledge of their past may negatively impact their future then they should be afraid. Period. That's the whole point of fear. How do you know the standards are bullshit if you don't even know why people have them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 12:40 AM
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Insecure is a word used to shame, shame is a tool used to shape behavior. Consistency does not matter. Truth does not matter. All they care about is creating an environment in which they can indulge their desires without suffering any negative consequences or making any sacrifices. Women want the freedom to be slutty as fuck early in their lives(when it's most desirable) without it costing them what they'll desire later in life(a family, stable income, predictable and safe husband). What gets in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 12:15 AM
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If men were equally attractive, their image would be equally prominent in our culture. It isn't. Want to sell a product? Use a woman's body. Want to get viewers? Use a woman's body. Want to stop traffic, turn heads or cause chaos? Use a woman's body. Want to represent beauty, lust, sex, desire or idealize attractiveness? Use a woman's body. If male bodies were as attractive, we'd see equal attention given when they are used. We don't. There is no venue or tradition that glorifies the male form i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 10:02 PM
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Except that the behavior exists in circumstances where there was no father or father figure to fit the role you describe. They never had the experience you suggest they're trying to re-create in their adult lives. They aren't yearning for a father to take care of them, they're yearning for SOMETHING to take care of the things they don't like so they can indulge the things they do like. A more accurate explanation might be that they liked being children and want to keep some of that easy and fun …
/r/TheRedPill11/05/15 05:52 PM
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It is. But it's a cheap, widely available commodity with a relatively(to pussy) low demand. You can see it as a commodity when looking at the top-alpha dick and how it is sought after. That dick is high-value and rare so the demand for it is more easily observed. Women will do all kinds of stuff to get access to high-quality dick that they won't ever do for average dick.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 09:00 AM
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Oppression being ever present does not mean it's biology and few claim it to be so. I don't think they hate trans women anymore than anyone does. No, they don't. They argue in favor of LGTB rights specifically because sexuality is something that can't be controlled(they are born that way). What they do in regard to men is refuse to accept male behavior is rooted in biology so they won't contradict themselves and undermine their position on the sexual preference or other similar issues of "they w…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 09:51 PM
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They tend to champion the socialization theory over biology. In my experience, they are very, very wary of ever admitting biology or biochemistry might be responsible for how people are and society is. That would undermine their positions too much. They won't judge and punish people for something that can't be controled the way they do men for their behavior and preferences. Further, they couldn't use those preferences and behaviors as proof of systemic sexism and oppression if those things come…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:48 PM
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The influence of social norms begins before a child is even born(the selection of nursery colors and toys, clothing etc...). Those social norms form the patriarchy and the patriarchy is sexist against women. So, sexism IS taught to males throughout their lives making men inexorably sexist from before they were even born. Or at least that is the logical conclusion of the philosophical tenants of much of feminism. Which inevitably manifests as, "everything about men that we don't like is a patriar…
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:16 PM
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Because while they might all be beautiful, some are more beautiful than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/15 12:46 PM
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Truth is not relevant.
/r/MensRights13/03/15 10:23 AM
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Or even acknowledge it as abusive.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 02:09 AM
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One could argue that decision was a result of cultural values that accept punishment of males and avoid punishing females. Which is exactly what a pussypass is. Just because someone had a choice, doesn't mean it wasn't a pussy pass, even if they were directly involved. The reasoning behind the decision could easily be a result of a bias in favor of girls.
/r/PussyPass11/03/15 05:59 AM
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They do now. But did they before there were domestic abuse centers, shelters and services? I doubt it. They probably suffered or sought aid from family and friends.
/r/MensRights11/03/15 12:35 AM
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Keep in mind this may not include everything one considered Domestic Violence and lifetime totals are often skewed by time which leads to under reporting.
/r/MensRights11/03/15 12:32 AM
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According the 2010 NISVS, of the 42 million female victims, 1 in 5 experienced their first instance between the age of 11 and 17, 1 in 7 for men(32 million victims). It also shows that a large majority of the abusers of men are women. This is of course using the definitions provided in the report, which you may or may not decide constitutes all domestic violence.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 08:21 AM
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The 2010 National intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey done by the CDC also puts the lifetime Prevalence of Rape, Physical Violence, and/or Stalking by an Intimate Partner at 36% of women(42 million) and 29% of men(32 million).
/r/MensRights10/03/15 08:04 AM
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We don't know how prevalent domestic violence really was in the past so we can't really say it's becoming more common. The past was a pretty violent place all round.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 07:35 AM
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Hate to be that guy but the part I think you're talking about was in reference to resources offered, not recognition of male victims existing. It was that male victim aren't asking for shelters so they don't provide them. You seem to be misrepresenting what was said. “If we had enough men coming forward saying, ‘I need shelter from this abusive woman’ or ‘I need shelter from this situation,’ do you not think that we would have provided those services to men?” Did women ask for shelters before th…
/r/MensRights10/03/15 07:33 AM
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Considering the person relating this story was the Harvard Law Professor that was assisting the student, I would assume any legal options were explored.
/r/MensRights10/03/15 07:10 AM
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So he's trying to convince himself that his choice was the right one by convincing you it was the right one. Pretty standard way to rationalize something one doesn't actually want.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 12:09 AM
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This just highlights just how little the perceptions, behaviors, desires and thoughts that feminism vilifies in men can really be controlled consciously and why their theories on social and cultural engineering are not just wrong but extremely damaging. Bio-chemistry is such a powerful influence on us that to demonize and punish people for the results of a bio-chemistry they can't control is absolutely wrong. A big part of TheRedPill is simple acceptance. Accept what is and act according to that…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/15 06:59 PM
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Most of this is unhelpful or detrimental to succeeding. Confidence comes from a history or success. Competence is a greater strength than vulnerability. As is a strong work ethic and resilience to hardship. Knowing and listening both have their places but knowing things helps accomplish more than listening does. Kindness and control are not mutually exclusive. Everyone cries when the grief is too much but we have different ideas of what 'too much' is. The capacity to remain composed under such d…
/r/MensRights14/02/15 11:04 PM
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Sorry, my last sentence was sarcasm.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 07:40 AM
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It's closer to suggesting she should have to sacrifice something she desires because it comes with risks. And that's just wrong. /s EDIT: My last sentence was sarcasm. I have clarified that.
/r/MensRights30/01/15 02:48 AM
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Well of course I'm going to defend what I wrote. What else should it do? Give up and agree with you? but she wasn't authoritative at all The title is, "Ten dating mistakes that men always make". From the very beginning she is judging what is a mistake and what isn't(what's right and what's wrong). From the very beginning she positions herself as arbiter of what a man should and shouldn't do(and also what women do and don't like). Just like everyone who makes gross generalizations like her. That …
/r/seduction22/01/15 02:44 AM
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Is she protected from criticism? Just because someone has a 'point of view' does not mean that view isn't open to criticism. She published this article for public consumption and so opens it up to that criticism. Do you not understand the criticisms or you just don't agree with them?
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:30 PM
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This woman is being paid to be that authority and people reading her article and agreeing with her only confirms that authority. Further, they are merely observations of her article, there is no butthurt.
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:23 PM
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No, I'm not. That comment you quoted was about the writing of the article, not dating.
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:15 PM
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She's more than happy to be part of the entertainment, but just like a dance, you lead, she follows. She's more than happy to take advantage of the opportunities for entertainment that you are responsible for providing as the leader. But you as leader are still the one responsible for providing those choices. She is not. You act, she reacts. If you act like a king and express your greater authority you will be left without her company as per point number one.
/r/seduction21/01/15 08:05 PM
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Women will reward men by seeking to build and maintain a relationship and everything that comes with it. Men don't morally or ethically have to pay but shouldering minor financial burdens will be met with greater interest than not. It's not something they'll tell you they want but it will make you more attractive.
/r/seduction21/01/15 12:22 AM
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No, no I don't.
/r/seduction20/01/15 10:46 PM
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Women practice being passively desirable. They focus on provoking desire and thus action from men. So they can, in a way(at least in the west) sit back and watch the men do stupid shit to amuse them. The fact that the men are trying shows them they've succeeded at being desirable. The whole princess/jester situation arises from that.
/r/seduction20/01/15 09:59 PM
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Being the leader often feels like a caretaker role. And as she states in the first point: We spent three hours getting ready for this thing. We’ve done our bit. We just want to be taken somewhere nice, please. She considers her presence alone to be her entire contribution. It is now your responsibility to provide her with sufficient entertainment for the duration of your date(and you should enjoy doing it). Basically it's up to you to provide her with the opportunities for her to be entertained.…
/r/seduction20/01/15 08:08 PM
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You don't have to but we reward those who do it. It's like doing extra work at your job. You don't HAVE to take on the extra work but we tend to reward those who do. And by tend to I mean always.
/r/seduction20/01/15 07:54 PM
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A quick and poor interpretation of the article. Be the leader and have a plan but make us feel we still have a say. Don't remind us that we're both single. Always appear confident. Make us feel special. Pay attention to us. Pay attention to us. We can't keep secrets about ourselves. Always appear confident. Makes us feel like we can trust you. Always appear confident. The extras: Be fun and pleasant. Demonstrate your willingness to financially support us. Demonstrate your willingness to physical…
/r/seduction20/01/15 06:10 PM
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Not as long as they work to their advantage!
/r/MensRights17/01/15 07:09 PM
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Feminism is obsessed with bullying. That's how they achieve all their goals.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 06:37 PM
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Privilege is a nebulous term that can be attached to any demographic for the purpose of silencing, punishing or dismissing an individual. It's one of a few words in the SJW arsenal they like using when it suits them. Their definitions are very rarely consistent except as a weapon to silence and shame.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 06:34 PM
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Sure, lots of people of all demographics don't report crimes of all types. But domestic violence is seen as a man-beats-woman scenario and those DV scenarios are the only ones society puts much value on(child abuse aside). The Hope Solo incident may show those cultural values by the case being not important enough to continue for the witnesses. But she also has a history of DV so you would think that would make it a bit more important to continue. It clearly wasn't. It's all part of the same thi…
/r/PussyPass15/01/15 07:21 PM
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All love is conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:10 PM
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It means something men do that I don't like right? RIGHT?!
/r/MensRights15/01/15 03:36 PM
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How were they different? The only difference I see is how the target reacted to them.
/r/MensRights15/01/15 03:25 PM
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Came to post this. Some will simply dismiss the suggestion as a stretch or grasping but it isn't. Or at least, it may not be. The whole point of this case is that people, society, don't see violence against men by women with the same importance as violence against women by men. The two are not equally valued. If this issue was the murder of a child, the witnesses would have been much more likely to cooperate with the process. The death of a child has a much greater value than what happened with …
/r/PussyPass15/01/15 03:11 PM
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Part of it has always been about revenge, it has simply become more prominent. People choose their belief system based on what they like, not what's true. If feminism offers them an ego stroking and a feeling of righteous purpose, reason and sense don't matter so much.
/r/MensRights11/01/15 05:18 PM
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I'm a little confused here. Did you lose your attraction to men? Isn't being bi-sexual having an attraction to both men and women? If a bi-sexual man makes the choice only to be with men, he doesn't lose his attraction to women so he wouldn't turn gay. Is sexuality not defined by ones attractions, ones desires? If you're still attracted to men as you were before, you're not really a lesbian are you? Aren't you just bi-sexual and choose to only date women? If a bi-sexual man and a bi-sexual women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:41 AM
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It is ironic for a person who preached about men taking responsibility for their decisions to so completely absolve women from responsibility for their decisions. But it is beneficial for them, so the motivation is clear. Now a few choice quotes: "If intercourse happened, and she is upset about it, especially upset enough to go to the police and report it, guess what? That's a case of rape right there. If intercrouse happened, there is really no such thing as a false report of rape except in a c…
/r/MensRights31/12/14 02:16 AM
13

And then of course their intentionally selfish ones.
/r/PussyPass24/12/14 02:42 AM
4

What if it's true? Do you still not want to be associated? What if the history of innovation, exploration, natural philosophy(science), production, physical security, fabrication and resource extraction is almost entirely male dominated? Was it simply a boys club for thousands of generations, occurring independently everywhere in the world? Or was it the result of simpler causes born from biological differences in males and females in relation their environment? I don't know but the theory is as…
/r/MensRights21/12/14 08:01 PM
1

I wonder if the bias toward women's enrollment is at all related to the liberalization of thought. Especially since they often make up a disproportionate majority in the social sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 04:54 PM
1

No paternity fraud charge(because that isn't a thing). Charged for forging documents. If she hadn't done that and convinced him another way, she would have been free.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/12/14 01:42 AM
5

The popular feminist response i expect: Well that's stupid they should just stop feeling that way.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:50 PM
1

Don't worry, despite this, men are still scientifically proven to be bigger idiots!
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 06:12 AM
0

Not really the topic I was commenting on but sure.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 06:27 PM
1

Yep, because they also don't share the same definition of rape as the survey. It's pretty standard in those kinds of surveys to ask if they have experienced a specific sequence of events rather than define the sequence with a word. They would not say, "Have you ever been raped?" they usually ask something like, "Have you ever been penetrated orally, vaginally or anally with a penis, an object or another body part by a partner when you didn't want to be?"
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 11:52 PM
-9

It is not female nature. There is nothing close to proof of that.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 11:47 PM
10

It's not in their interest to see sexual violence against women decrease. As much as they say they want it to stop, they also want something they can fight against and rally around and join together to oppose. They want and need a noble female cause to give themselves and their movement an identity and relevance and they won't easily relinquish it. Plus, they've been effectively lying for so long, so loudly and caused such a ruckus that they'd look like morons if they back tracked now. They're k…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 11:43 PM
1

That doesn't mean those men were stupid, only that you fail to understand why they made those decisions. Every single one of those decisions was considered before being made. If you're going to argue women don't make dumb decisions too then you're dishonest. It's possible women avoid risky behavior and men don't so much. But why is that you don't ask? Maybe there are rewards men are getting that women don't get that create incentives for men to take those risks? If the risk is worth the reward, …
/r/MensRights12/12/14 11:25 PM
8

Feminism isn't interested in sharing power. They want to control the narrative and expand their power to socially engineer. But there are lots of people that genuinely just want a better world. Compassionate, open-minded and curious people who are looking for better answers. Trouble is, the traits that make a good leader aren't the ones that make you a compassionate and open-minded person. So the feminist demagogues, like the democrats and republicans, hold the power of leadership while the majo…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 11:04 PM
2

If this kind of preference for shallow, no-strings-attached, short lived relationships hadn't been used to shame male sexuality for decades by the same group that is saying it now, I might find more humor in this. I have no problem with celebrating zero comittment sexual fun, but the hypocracy ruins this for me.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 06:22 PM
1

I don't. But the same can be said of any assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 11:55 AM
1

I think a more significant take away is that IPV is perpetrated more often both physically and verbally by women than by men. Further, that men in general experience more physical and verbal aggression from other men and from women than women do from men or women. Men experience more verbal and physical aggression inside and outside intimate relationships than women do. Yet women are the ones complaining about how they're treated and men aren't. I'm curious as to why men don't speak up and deman…
/r/MensRights08/12/14 01:40 AM
2

Yes it would. It's been proven before that a significant amount of domestic abuse is already reciprocal. Both parties beat each other up and it doesn't stop either of them. It may lower the prevalence in some groups but it would also increase the prevalence in others so it's a wash.
/r/MensRights08/12/14 01:08 AM
3

A little nuclear contamination would not stop American enterprise from exploiting those oil reserves. The bump in oil prices would only make it more profitable. Radioactive protected machinery and suits are perfectly feasible. Or pay the now poor and hungry indigenous people to work there with no protection until they die. Don't underestimate the drive for profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 01:00 PM
5

Shaming is an old social control. Women also tend to be the ones who develop it's use.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:57 PM
7

You realize the much of the wealthy elite at and before the founding of America considered democracy to be a bad thing right? They considered the average person too stupid, uneducated and uninformed to be given the power to affect policy. The idea that the opinion of a simple fisherman would have equal weight as that of a wealthy landowner was ridiculed. It took the civil war to give non-whites the vote. The Dor Rebellion in Rhode Islands in 1841 shows there was still enough antipathy towards no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:27 PM
5

TRP is full of useless ideas. But it's also got some interesting ideas that aren't normally allowed to be voiced and that deserve consideration. Their romanticized tendency to generalize the world into a convenient simplicity however is notable but not uncommon. Feminism does the same thing. As does every religion on the planet and countless other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:10 PM
2

That "agitation" was the manifestation of an existing shift of cultural values that valued extending voting rights to women. Those women were not outside the system fighting to be including, their actions were the exact way a culture changes from the inside. They did not cause a change, they were the agents of an existing change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 12:01 PM
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The push for universal suffrage was the manifestation of existing changes in values that coalesced into the movement you describe. When values shift it causes volatility, instability and conflict in the social system as those changes propagate(protests, violence, strikes etc.). The movement was the result, not the cause of those changes in values. And values change as contexts(environments) change. The same system of change caused the movements that allowed non-land owning men the right to vote(…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:48 AM
3

What is worse for their arguments is that many of the ideas that make up feminism have existed in philosophy and religion for hundreds or thousands of years. Yet they only gained prominence in modern times. This should indicate it isn't the ideas that change the world but that they existed in the right context. They finally gained value in the marketplace of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 11:04 AM
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And I'm saying feminism isn't responsible for those changes so they would still exist. That presumes I agree that your vision of history is accurate to begin with but I'll assume so for the sake of argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:56 AM
3

Nothing 'just' happens. People are always the vehicle, the actors of social change. That doesn't mean those people and their actions are not themselves the result of other factors that provoked that behavior. While we are the means through which social change occurs, that doesn't mean we are in control of it. M-rafay seems to understand just fine, it is you who I think fails to see the larger context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:54 AM
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I made my post before refreshing this page and seeing yours. Suffice to say I agree with your assertion that those social changes were not the result of feminism but other factors, most notably changes in technology and environment. They indeed would have happened without feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:48 AM
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Nothing you stated is accurate. Many of the changes you mention happened or started to happen before feminism became a noun and before anything resembling the cohesive philosophical concept that is feminism was formed. You give feminism far too much credit which blinds you to many truths about cultural and social change. Feminism is not a force that exists outside of regular culture. Feminism is a manifestation of social changes and exists within a larger cultural context. The impetus for everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 10:41 AM
2

You change the reals to make them feels.
/r/MensRights30/11/14 09:31 PM
1

Not sure what point you're making here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 11:34 PM
-17

Me too...me too.
/r/PussyPass21/11/14 07:47 PM
-38

That's because doing so supports solutions to more serious issues that affect women. Get your priorities straight man. Rape culture and violence against women, economic gender inequality, poverty, inadequate contraception availability, abortion rights, the glass ceiling, sexual objectification of women in the media, these are all serious issues that need legislative and legal support to tackle. What you call favor is actually just sorely needed and academically verified solutions to these pressi…
/r/PussyPass21/11/14 07:22 PM
-32

Not true. They support solutions to all kinds of situations in which women are currently treated unfairly.
/r/PussyPass21/11/14 07:08 PM
-22

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope the doctors can help.
/r/PussyPass21/11/14 07:06 PM
-25

Not true. Feminism may support and encourage it(or simply ignore or deny it) but treating females better than males when it come to crime and punishment is a long standing reality.
/r/PussyPass21/11/14 06:59 PM
1

To you, to society, to RPs in general, yes. It is definitely considered less valuable. To society, not individuals. Many feminine values may not be better for society or the economy in general. Correction, I am a woman, that doesn't necessarily mean that I am feminine. Maybe I am and maybe I'm not. You wouldn't know. But are you? I'm guessing you are. Am I wrong? Are you a butch lesbian? A manly girl? A through and through tomboy? Or are you an average woman? Again, society values both (never sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 06:51 PM
1

Of course, women make better victims than men and children make better victims that adults so if you put the two together, you get the greatest victim aside of baby girls.
/r/MensRights21/11/14 05:55 PM
1

If you don't protect her, you're tacitly endorsing violence against women and rape. Just like when you tell those rape jokes and it supports rape culture. Or you when you don't criticize the men who do and fight for women despite the cost to you.
/r/MensRights21/11/14 05:53 PM
2

That's literally what you said. It's on the record, just above my post. It's not in doubt, you typed it out and posted it. Because society does not value femininity. Maybe it IS less valuable overall. Did you ever consider that? No, because you're feminine and that wouldn't feel very good would it? Society values both, preferring one over the other depending on the circumstance. Just because society doesn't value it in the way you want, when you want and as much as you want, doesn't mean it's un…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:50 PM
1

Feminine roles are not any more inherently self-sacrificial than masculine roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:28 PM
3

That's hogwash, society values both masculinity and femininity. It might not value them in the way you want, or when you want but society very much does value both. After all, femininity is not innate, it's a social construct. If it wasn't valued it would have ceased to exist long ago. Secondly, TRPs love and value women quite a lot. You just don't agree with how they define women or why they value them. A woman who can cook, raise children, manage a household and support her husband is probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:11 PM
2

Your definition of "rewards" is very narrow. You seem to only count praise, public acknowledgment, celebrity and acclaim. Those are but a small selection off a long list of rewards that motivate us. Femininity is rewarded in a myriad of ways but if you only care about being publicly appreciated then I suspect you're blind and deaf to the rewards your own femininity has already been granting you. Perhaps you simply take those rewards for granted so you are unaware of them. Or maybe you simply wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:05 PM
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Please have something other than opinion to back this up. I would love to see something solid on this theory.
/r/PussyPass07/11/14 01:49 PM
1

That doesn't answer the question about how an individual in those positions would enact cultural change.
/r/MensRights18/10/14 12:02 AM
2

Just out of curiosity, what response would and from whom would be necessary for this not to be a pussy pass?
/r/PussyPass18/10/14 12:00 AM
1

How do these roles enact cultural change without the consent of the population?
/r/MensRights17/10/14 06:36 AM
1

You make a curious argument. What exactly are these roles that you speak of that enact cultural changes and how are they handed out?
/r/MensRights16/10/14 03:40 PM
2

If that's the case(yet to be even remotely proven) it would undermine my statement as an absolute, not a general truth. It was never stated as an absolute though so it wouldn't really do much undermining. I stand by the statement as a general truth nonetheless. Men are most often tasked with these kinds of violent social controls. However, even if it is a majority of women, my point about social support for deplorable acts stands regardless. If a culture persists in a tradition or practice, it a…
/r/MensRights15/10/14 11:04 AM
0

Men are always tasked with the dirty work. Where's the research indicating who supports these attacks? If it's a culturally created behavior then both men and women will be supporting it. Just like you see in extreme Muslim countries, or in North-Korea or the former USSR, or China, or Nazi Germany or Imperialist Britain, or America with regard to slavery. The axe-man is almost always a man. One who is encouraged to do so by the society as a whole, which includes women obviously.
/r/MensRights15/10/14 08:15 AM
6

Men are not to be left to their own. Men need female supervision and oversight. Men need to be controlled for the good of society...
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 06:31 AM
0

I made no value judgement. Men and women are different, both have good and bad qualities. Two sides of the same human coin. And there are things worse than death so no, it isn't the ultimate sacrifice. The existence of suicide and a willingness to die rather than sacrifice something else is proof of that. I'm not angry at all. Perhaps you're projecting. It's the role of that first squad, as defined by the operating structure of the marines that they be the first to try. Those other men would lik…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 05:14 AM
1

It's entirely possible than men choose alcohol to cope because it works better for them than other methods. That could easily have a physiological bias. Or be the eventuality of several related physiological biases. Yes, accept things as they are and work with what's real, not what would be ideal. I have no illusions that we're deteriorating at all. I don't think we're better now than we were before. Just different. Second, i'm not in a position to allow anything. I'm no overlord capable of shap…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 05:04 AM
1

Perhaps, although she will continue to experience this crisis every time the topic comes up or she thinks about it again. Which will be often. It's also possible she'll start to distance herself from this friend as a means of avoiding the conflict.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 04:55 AM
2

What "next level" is that? The same level that men have traditionally died on? And only after the man has already fallen in the attempt? There is no sacrifice for justice there. Perhaps nobility but even that's debatable. Women mock the concepts of duty and honor when it's inconvenient to them. Their sense of sacrifice extends to their children and perhaps a few valuable family or friends. For their country? For their morals? Their principles? Their word of honor? Not bloody likely. Sure, they'l…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 05:06 PM
2

Yep. For a man it's assumed to be sexual, for a women it's not. There is a clear bias that has destroyed many a man's life.
/r/MensRights11/10/14 04:44 PM
5

When the trend dominates one sex but not the other, what is the source? Socialization alone? Or perhaps it's a physiological bias that manifests such dominant patterns.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 04:37 PM
5

It's not much of a twist though. An attractive friend wouldn't need her help and she wouldn't be feeling bad thinking about her because she'd be confident it would work out for her friend. She actually does harbor an empathy for her ugly friend's plight because she recognized there is a plight and it's causing her discomfort.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 04:32 PM
2

And it's happening. Men are opting out of dedicating their lives to professional success instead of doing what they like. Career women have a HELL of a time finding men with similar income and professional levels. The more female-male graduate levels continue, the more it will happen. There's been a few articles in the last year or so about it. Men are dedicating their time to themselves instead of to women and families.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:55 PM
5

And don't even get started on the way work is delegated in scenarios where it's basically up to the workers to organize themselves. Women miraculously always end up with the easier jobs while the dirty/hard stuff gets left to the men. I've never been more impressed with how women manage to position themselves into places of plausible deniability than watching them avoid work they didn't like doing.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:51 PM
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And industrial and pre-industrial American women were very similar. But if you watch the change in technology you see the pattern that emerged to create what America is today. Technology made their jobs obsolete. The only bastion on female necessity was children, then the pill happened and technology took that as well. Now they had a surplus of time and started demanding political and economic power. Technology made the modern woman, not feminists or gender studies or political movements. The tr…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:39 PM
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She can't handle the emotional pain of considering that her friend is ugly and therefore unwanted as a mate. She simply doesn't like feeling bad. That's it. All of the rest is an attempt to alleviate or avoid her own suffering. And considering the attempt to expand the definition of beautiful to include all women everywhere, to suggest her friend isn't beautiful just causes her to feel bad(especially when she privately knows it true). It's part of an overall trend of psychological control that w…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 03:16 PM
0

We have them because enough people want them. You don't see the point but others do. Why do you care so much about what other people do with their time and money?
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 05:07 AM
1

No, but you know what they are doing? They are making those differences irrelevant. Both a vilification of violence and strength, and changes to the legal framework are making male physical dominance both taboo and illegal. The state then uses overwhelming force on their behalf. Toxic masculinity turns male dominant traits into evil things. Expanded definitions of sexual assault, rape, and violence arm women with both weapons to destroy men socially and academically and financially, and the mean…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 12:31 AM
2

The difficulty in that is women and men display behaviors, preferences and personalities across the entire spectrum of human behavior. Because of that, feminists conclude it's socialization that causes those differences and that it can be therefore changed(and currently controlled by the evil patriarchy). Until it can be PROVEN that a physiological trait causes psychological differences, they will hold to that unproven position because they must in order to validate their worldview and ideology.…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/14 12:17 AM
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And then make sure to say that those are the ONLY difference. As if physiological differences aren't that significant and don't create psychological differences as well.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 09:14 AM
1

Because some women like playing sports too. It's not that fucking hard to figure out.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 09:13 AM
3

Even forgiving the obvious and numerous reasons why nothing much of value can be taken from this prank, the best you can say is FATNESS may be less important to women than men. But fatness is not a sufficient measure of physical attractiveness on it's own. More importantly perhaps, they used tinder. The choice of tinder undermines their entire argument. Tinder is designed to rely solely on physical appearance to determine attraction and is primarily a casual sex app more than a dating app. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/14 05:55 AM
2

Is that a challenge?
/r/MensRights30/09/14 12:18 PM
8

The choice of Emma Watson is simply part of PR and marketing. Her celebrity connects with a huge, young female and male demographic. If done right, Emma Watson will bring into the fold a whole new group of people and further entrench others into the popular feminist version of gender issues. She herself is also young and malleable. UN Women already has Nicole Kidman as an ambassador along with a Princess from Thailand(who actually has credentials other than celebrity). Their role is largely PR a…
/r/MensRights30/09/14 11:46 AM
202

Control over male behavior by popular feminism always focuses on what women want out of men, never what's good for men or what men need.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 01:10 AM
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In addition to being isolated from her normal life: her friends, hobbies, family, relationships, sex, regular work life, social circle, etc. She faced a number of difficulties in that 18 months that couldn't be remedied with her normal coping and support systems either. This sub keeps bringing her up and saying, "being a man broke her" but she wasn't a man. She was a women pretending to be a man for a year and a half and living that lie broke her. Of course the actual reason she sought mental he…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/14 08:56 AM
2

No, they really aren't.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 04:16 PM
1

True enough.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 07:16 AM
6

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt. A complimentary quote.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 07:00 AM
3

This is what happens when we group serious offenses with non-serious offenses by broadening definitions to benefit ideological and political motives.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 06:56 AM
2

You can't suggest to women they do anything that might prevent being raped. If you do, you're placing the responsibility on women rather than on the men who rape. This is a common and accepted perspective from not just SJW or feminists but government and educational institutions. It's also idiotic. We do not apply this logic to any other act. Rape is treated as a special crime against women and that is used to justify all kinds of things that are actually anathema to good government policy and a…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 06:54 AM
31

Sell the treatment not the cure.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 08:07 PM
1

I suppose it requires a very clear definition of maturity before this conversation can really go very far. Physical and psychological development starts and ends sooner in girls than boys. If that's our definition then it's conclusive. If we want to define it by some other measure such as social responsibility, long-term planning, risk assessment or other things then the issue becomes more debatable. However, mental development during puberty is directly related to all of those other factors. So…
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 11:02 PM
4

If you want to change the definition of mature to something that specifically excludes physiology then that's your choice. But physiological changes result in mental changes and mental changes are what affects decision-making, morality, philosophy, sense of self etc. so physical development DOES affect all those things you just mentioned. And at puberty it is easily the most significant factor. So since all of those are a product of a mature physiological brain, biological development is what pr…
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 05:27 PM
0

That should be rather obvious.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 05:09 PM
1

Trannies are attempting to satisfy their sense of gender identity. They are attempting to be honest about who they feel they are. The author is not doing that. She has embodies an identity that is not her own and in doing so had restricted herself from satisfying her own sense of identity for 18 months.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 04:43 PM
4

Then you must ignore all the science that studies the development of humans. It shows consistently that girls develop on average 2 years ahead of boys both mentally and physically. It isn't about knowledge, it's about physical and mental development. Girls mature physically and mentally faster than boys by about 2 years.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 04:27 PM
-10

Her institutionalization was a result of having to live a complete lie about who she was for 18 months and being cut off from the normal life she knew. It can't be taken as an example of how hard men have and how women can't hack it as men.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/14 03:01 AM
2

This article is about her right to an abortion, not about her preference for a girl.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:43 AM
0

Because to her they are NOT just as wonderful. Clearly she doesn't want another boy.
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:36 AM
4

Who said it was different?
/r/MensRights01/09/14 06:35 AM
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Because she was offended and her feelings prompted her to act before thinking it through. She also probably expected calling attention to them would be enough to prompt outrage and support from the audience around her. People use words like weapons and the utterance of a few powerful words is often enough to get them the support they want from the community. Women are especially effective in doing so. Asking these people simple questions is about the quickest way to show their complete ignorance…
/r/PussyPass30/08/14 09:03 AM
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Difficult to say if he needs a constant stream of female attention to feel valued or he fucks them to feel superior to other men. Either way, he is rationalizing his behavior as benevolent to avoid feeling guilty. After doing it for so long it's doubtful he'll ever admit it now.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/14 04:20 AM
1

If she doesn't value your opinion, your actions CAN'T make her feel special.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/14 12:47 AM
7

The value of your opinion however is heavily dependent on how she much she values you. And women value success, social status, money, confidence, good looks etc.. etc... There are plenty of betas running around telling women they're special and they get completely ignored because their opinion isn't of any value.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 10:06 PM
1

The report does not state women lose their sexual desire specifically for their husbands. It says that women lose their sexual desire overall. Secondly, it doesn't matter if they don't want the relationship to end. My question is WHEN it ends, do women experience an increase in their sexual desire again? Does sexual desire increase for women who are again searching for a relationship? Does the first long term relationship have a permanent affect on women's sexual desire? If a woman never gets in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:22 AM
1

So women will regain some of their sex drive if the relationship ends and they try to find a new one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 12:51 AM
1

I'm not arguing that it will.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:49 PM
2

Hard data tends to trump bullshit excuses. They get angry because they know their regular tactic won't work and they've been called on it. It's a feeling of helplessness that makes them angry and they immediately start to shame, belittle and criticize the behavior(making a spreadsheet) rather than confront the issue it brings up.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:31 PM
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No, they aren't. One simply has to accept that a lack of a fulfilling sex life will end the relationship. So they gotta make the choice between sex they don't always want and losing their partner.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:27 PM
2

We've become too paranoid about men in general. For some reason the public is extremely open to hearing about how dangerous men are. No doubt thanks to some feminist/women's groups and a media that loves sensationalism.
/r/MensRights05/07/14 10:47 PM
3

The majority of homeless are there because of health/mental health issues or addiction. It has nothing to do with taking a shot at becoming a CEO or gambling in general. Nobody who is in a position to be a CEO is going to end up homeless if they fail. That's ridiculous. And yes the gender disparity among the homeless is a problem as is homelessness itself. Suggesting male nature makes them homeless is...a disturbing belief you hold. I wasn't comparing children to CEOs I was comparing CEOs to tea…
/r/MensRights01/07/14 11:10 PM
1

Do you not think they do?
/r/MensRights01/07/14 11:05 PM
1

I have no advice to give but I would like a follow up post after your lawyer does their lawyery stuff and explains to you what the fuck is going on. This all seems very fishy to me.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 08:30 PM
3

Is 95% of CEOs being male a bad thing?
/r/MensRights01/07/14 07:51 PM
2

I would argue in favor of that "blurring of the roles" position actually. Without the unique benefits clear roles create, there is much less incentive for anyone to remain in a marriage. Marriage today is mainly about romance and sex and entertainment and fun, when those evaporate, what else is left to keep two people together? Both individuals are capable of independence and self-sufficiency. Spouses don't actually need each other, they stay together only as long as they want each other more th…
/r/MensRights28/06/14 12:20 PM
5

No, it isn't hard, they fail to do it intentionally.
/r/MensRights28/06/14 12:04 PM
1

If patriarchy is believed then almost everything can and should be traced back to patriarchal influences. The argument from feminists isn't about whether patriarchy exists, that conversation has already happened and they've decided it does, it is only about how an observation is related to patriarchy. So yes, it makes perfect sense that they would seek to understand this information using the patriarchal framework. It's like saying Newton was going to twist the study of celestial movements to im…
/r/MensRights28/06/14 11:40 AM
1

This is usually derived from surveys that will asks questions like, "How many people have you had vaginal, oral, or anal sex with after they pressured you by doing things like telling you lies, making promises about the future they knew were untrue, threatening to end your relationship, or threatening to spread rumors about you?" They don't tell you that the definition of rape they're using includes the above circumstance. They never ask you if you were raped, instead they create a scenario that…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 11:57 PM
6

What? You mean feminism wants more power? Shocker.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 07:29 PM
5

She doesn't make any effort to put focus on it. Feminism tends to always want to point it out and make sure everyone takes notice. Rowling just gets on with the fuck'n story.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 07:24 PM
2

And for the wrong reasons and at the wrong times. That's pretty much what it comes down to. It's just a war over cultural values. We value all kinds of people in the most narrow ways regularly without criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:54 PM
1

You may note the article does not mention their sex life or whether he still finds her unattractive. I doubt his sexual preferences changed, he simply gave up on depending on his wife for sexual gratification.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 02:50 PM
2

Ditto and for similar reasons. It sucks too because there are still interesting conversations going on there that I can't participate in now.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 10:18 AM
1

Yeah, yeah you should be!
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 02:12 PM
2

Feminist ideals and ideas permeate all of culture and shape standards for media of all kinds(most notably network TV). The ideas and moral judgements are present in every kind of media and art. It isn't hard to understand when you see some of the media products and ad campaigns directed at them. There is a definite, subtle trend of female superiority being marketed and sold. Most people take the parts of culture they like and ignore the others. Being told you're awesome and better than other peo…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:02 PM
1

Perhaps feminism itself is a result of and expression of changes elsewhere that are the cause of all this? Perhaps feminism is simply the manifestation of changing cultural ideals shaped by other factors.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 10:57 AM
2

Indeed, correlation does not equal causation.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 10:53 AM
1

Never going to happen.
/r/PussyPass14/05/14 12:33 AM
26

Theon was brutally tortured(physically and psychologically) over several episodes and had his genitals mutilated(I don't remember if he was anally penetrated). This was a far, far more heinous and harmful an act than any rape portrayed on any TV show or Movie I've seen shown on a major network or major cable channel. No outrage from anyone. He certainly didn't fucking consent to that but it doesn't matter. Had it been a woman tortured in the same way there might have actually been voices raised.…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 09:48 AM
3

These kinds of post do appeal to a certain audience. I'm not part of that audience either but it's there. There is a similar audience in some of the other gender related subs and the political subs too.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 07:31 PM
3

Because some people seem to think anytime a woman does something bad, it's worth pointing out. They missed the part about having a meaningful comparison that illustrates a double standard. Although, bursting the bubble of the image of females being all loving and kind is perhaps still worthwhile?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 07:18 PM
5

Proof of that?
/r/MensRights17/04/14 07:16 PM
2

So you must show evidence that proves the difference. Right now nobody has posted a comparison to a similar case in which a male received harsher penalties. Or better yet, multiple ones.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 07:15 PM
3

Good looking people don't start getting rewarded later in life, they get it early on, sometimes even straight from childhood. The cumulative affect of that is confidence and a strong sense of self-worth.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 03:18 PM
6

There are two types of ideas. One that the listener can verify independently and one in which the listener relies on trusting the speaker. The validity of an idea however, is independent of the speaker. In the case of privilege, it is used to indicate the listener doesn't trust anything the speakers says. That only happens if the listener is relying on trust to judge the validity of an argument. A white, heterosexual, wealthy male for instance would be ignored, their ideas defined as invalid sim…
/r/MensRights14/04/14 06:27 PM
2

Different people, different priorities. Maybe they don't derive much pleasure from the things you find rewarding. Maybe that's all they want right now. Maybe they just don't need anything else from a partner. It's rare to only value one thing in a person but it isn't rare to overwhelming value a single thing or a small group of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/14 12:01 AM
2

You reworded his reasoning to one that suited your argument better, you reduced it to something that isn't fully representative of his because it helped you support your conclusion. That is the first point you made and that was the point I responded to. Your comparison of any one trait being of equal value to any other trait is untrue. You're simplifying the comparison to it's most basic expression which has rendered it useless. Traits are not equal so taking that out of the equation makes the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 07:03 PM
12

You don't, but sociopaths learn very early and practice the skills needed to read people.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 03:31 PM
3

If their premise is correct then it follows and there is merit in their premise. Women are never as sexually valuable as when they are young. This isn't really debatable. Outliers aside, from fertility to sexual appeal, younger women(18-30) are glorified and sought above all other age categories. That being said, people are valuable for a lot of reasons, sexual desirability is almost always important but age seems to shift those values quite a bit as our priorities change. But if his priority is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 03:08 PM
5

All traits are not equal and there are common values that group cultures. If she said, "I use to date smoking hot, rich guys but now I date guys like you and find those others unattractive." isn't equivalent to saying, "I use to like guys with facial hair but now I think it's kind of gross and like clean shaven guys like you." Projection aside, your point is too reductive to be of any real value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:55 PM
3

But he's a man so his feelings are open to judgement and dismissal. And shame, let's not forget about shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:48 PM
3

She could very well have been the exact kind of girl he was rejected by during that same time period too so a little resentment along with everything else is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 02:47 PM
8

Damnit man! You can't end a story right as the first shot is fired! Brigand!
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 01:45 PM
4

Women don't want to see behind the curtain. Not only will they reject what is revealed but they will reject you for revealing it. They live in a world of illusion that bends itself as necessary to reconcile their natural desires with what is socially and culturally and personally appropriate(avoiding guilt and feeding a bloated ego). The hamster bridges the gap between two worlds while keeping the natural side in a pleasant fog. Further, their enjoyment of men and life is dependent on a stern be…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 01:38 PM
6

That's a big problem I have with the concept of "rape culture". You can just as easily select any behavior that exists within a society and point out how, when and why that behavior exists to the extend it does. Then you can claim there is an "x behavior culture". Murder culture, theft culture, gluttony culture, lazy culture, bully culture, all of them are then equally valid a concept as rape culture. Is there really a "rape culture" or is rape simply one more part of culture? The mere existence…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 01:30 PM
86

Men lose their brothers and sons and fathers too. They also lose their feet, hands, legs, their arms, their eyes, their homes, their children, their wives and their sanity. Oh yeah, they also lose their lives too. War sucks for everyone. Women suffer, men suffer, children suffer, nations suffer. I understand wanting to point out how war affects women but to make a judgement about who suffers more is idiotic. After all, if living through war was worse, those women could always kill themselves. As…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 02:23 AM
7

Why is this here? Leave this stuff for /r/TimplrInAction or /r/SRSsucks, it's kind of their bag. I thought this place tried dealing with bigger issues than pointing out random comments by random individuals on the internet? Maybe if the individual was important somehow it would matter. Maybe this place isn't what I thought.
/r/MensRights22/03/14 01:51 AM
5

It doesn't have to be an academic study to give the viewers a context to better understand what they've seen. This simply cherry picked a couple of scenes to create whatever story the creators wanted. The end result is what? We learn nothing and it doesn't represent anything meaningful. For me, that ruins any enjoyment I may have had up to that point and I will avoid these people's videos in the future.
/r/PussyPass22/03/14 01:44 AM
1

Bingo. What's your point? Live a little. If the girl thinks she can pull one over one you then you better top her. Not to mention she never wanted to split and said upfront to OP, I have no job or any money. This man failed to exert any control or dominance at any point. He was failing from the very start. If he decided to pay for her he should have kept it under budget or relinquished that responsibility. Instead he let her drag him around by the nose. Then it got too much for him so he panicke…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 01:38 AM
1

Tell me how your night would have ended in this scenario? I already did, inform the server the table's bill is split and pay for my own portion. Then leave the girl to deal with her own mess and find something else to do for the rest of the evening. I don't know where you grew up, but if you don't have a job or the money you don't go out to run a $200 bill. Man or woman. I agree? Not sure why you're mentioning this. How would you feel if I came over your house to hang out and watch a UFC match a…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 10:47 PM
2

You don't ask her to do anything, you act. You settle your bill before the issue even arises as discretely as possible. The best thing you can do is make sure your server is aware that there will be two bills, not one. If the restaurant knows she is paying her own bill, then any financial issues are now between her and the restaurant and they will handle everything else. You can now leave whenever the hell you want, or stay and watch the show.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 09:09 AM
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He is an asshole and a coward. He's an asshole for making her pay for what he ordered rather than taking responsibility for himself. It's fine to refuse to pay for her or help her out of a situation she created for herself but he forced her to pay for choices HE made in the same way that she wanted him to pay for choices SHE made. He did the same thing to her as she was essentially doing to him. He's a coward because he ran away rather than having the stones to confront and handle the eventual c…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 06:56 AM
8

It's simple, denial. They don't do that.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 01:32 AM
1

A pussy pass from what? What did she do that would warrant a pass of any kind? Why is this even here?
/r/PussyPass19/03/14 08:49 AM
19

Without showing the numbers at the end this is kind of pointless isn't it? I'm forced to suspect what is shown is not an accurate representation of the data gathered.
/r/PussyPass19/03/14 08:34 AM
2

Some people use whatever definition is convenient at the time to get what they want. Other people struggle to adhere to consistency despite the sacrifices. Manipulation doesn't have to be on a continuum, it can be defined reasonably clearly. But you have to stop thinking of it a wrong or bad first. If one defines manipulation as "wrong" before anything else(which most people do), one tends to seek further defining it in a way that must continue to be "wrong". Anything else makes them uncomfortab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 05:15 PM
2

An example: I know telling sexist jokes is going to produce behavior in a potential mate that will make mating highly unlikely. However, I like sexist jokes, and laugh at them frequently. I also know that telling cute jokes will produce behavior in a potential mate that will make mating much more likely. But, i don't like cute jokes. If my goal is to mate, is my choice to tell a cute joke over a sexist joke then manipulation? I know my behavior will modify their behavior and the behavior I'm cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 03:20 PM
3

I always find it funny how many different definitions of, "feminist" there are.
/r/seduction09/03/14 03:59 PM
1

It isn't simply an expectation. People manipulate things to produce that kind of behavior. Lots of us are nice people who are just trying to have fun and make things easier for everyone so we do what we can to avoid conflict because it's a mood killer and a potential disaster. This man experienced that and directly confronted the issue. Conflict is not an action but a reaction. By her acting, she forces you to either accept her direction or create a conflict by opposing it. Because conflict ofte…
/r/seduction09/03/14 03:58 PM
13

Men(especially younger men[18-49]) have gravitated to other means of entertainment leaving women as an even larger demographic than they already were. Of the top 10 shows on TV during sweeps in 2009, women out view men in each one(http://www.spottedratings.com/2009/08/gender-in-tv-ratings.html). Women also watch more TV than men(http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/05/nielsen-gaming-tv-console/ and http://www.thinkbox.tv/server/show/nav.914) so it makes sense they would make product that befit their au…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 03:25 PM
10

"Women have always been the primary victims of war." - Hillary Clinton
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:55 PM
1

Are you serious? Have you seen the places this shit happens in? There is very little, effectively no chance for most of them to better themselves. Begging is a profession in some of those places and children are even intentionally disfigured in order to prepare them for a life as a beggar. What they're doing actually is something that betters them.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:43 PM
3

They are emotional, that doesn't mean kind or generous or sympathetic.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:38 PM
1

The show always has a psychologist to explain the behavior they show in their segments regardless of the experiment.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:36 PM
1

That happens all over the world, India being the most obvious where children are physically injured in order to become professional beggars. Why not in America too?
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:35 PM
1

Women and men conflict in different ways. Men conflict directly, more openly and often through physical means. This makes resolution more direct and easier to obtain. Women wage battles through social and interpersonal means using relational aggression, gossip, inter-personal politics, public opinion and other social mechanisms. Women and men don't engage in less or more conflict they just do so differently which leads to much different outcomes. Male conflict is often obvious, open and quicker …
/r/TheRedPill22/02/14 09:21 PM
11

So.....her two friends got dick while she slept alone on the couch? Not really complicated is it?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 07:51 PM
7

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/vsob1/divorces-in-england-and-wales/2011/rft-divorces--number-of-divorces-age-at-divorce-and-marital-status-before-marriage.xls This links to data from The Office of National Statistics(ONS) in the UK and covers England and Wales that shows a 40k -77k difference, or 67% of divorces were initiated by women. Those numbers are similar in America and Canada but I have no direct stats to link. There are a number of news articles that quote researchers as sources but none…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 10:41 AM
2

I think society does understand, that's exactly why people use it. The label is power and it's disturbing how widely that power is being used. It's a form of aggression to label someone a creep, or slut, or a pedo, or a rapist and it's the preferred form of aggression for girls and women.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 11:51 AM
0

Reality isn't necessary. If someone appears to be a virgin, however that gets defined at the time(eg. geeky, awkward etc..) they can still be ridiculed for being a virgin by the group. That's how bullying works, reality doesn't matter, as long as the group agrees one thing is true, they stick with it. Trying to prove the truth often only opens one up to new forms of ridicule because the group doesn't care about the truth.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 11:41 AM
1

Sounds like you were a pawn, a convenient target they could communally bully because they get off on it. They knew there wouldn't be any consequences either.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 11:37 AM
1

?
/r/TheRedPill09/02/14 04:35 AM
2

We all constantly maintain and update our concept of other people based on the information we have. It isn't static but constantly tested and changed. Part of that concept includes social and sexual value. What you would think to yourself when encountering a woman would start with how valuable you thought you were. Some behaviors will indicate she thinks she is lower-value than you, some will indicate she thinks she is higher-value than you. Some will indicate she thinks you are equal. If she's …
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:52 AM
29

Yep. Upon meeting, we naturally rate ourselves relative to those around us. We mentally divide up into peer groups. So when she meets you, she rates herself relative to you. If you don't behave in the way she expects someone of your status should, either one of two things are true: Her assessment of you was wrong or her assessment of herself is wrong. If she correctly judged your status(by observing that those in that peer group accept you as an equal) but you rejected her from that peer group, …
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:00 AM
3

But so normalized that it's completely overlooked. Few people would look at the history of warfare and say, "That's an example of how cultures practice the genocide of the male sex." Feminism does get some things right and the idea that normalized behaviors are difficult to notice objectively is one of them(not saying they invented the concept, just preach it). Violence towards men is one of those normalized, filtered events. It isn't really seen as what it objectively is because doing so would …
/r/MensRights02/02/14 10:02 PM
0

Disney and RomComs yes, sitcoms? I don't think so. Every sitcom male runs the same gag. They step out of their expected beta role at the beginning and the entire episode is about them struggling against being put back into it. Which they fail at because they lack the skills needed.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 08:19 AM
3

Not sure what your point is.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 06:51 AM
1

At the moment yes, but so few women have seen combat roles that it's a big question mark right now. Further, you'd have to have a war between relative equal forces to really know. But then we have a huge store of history to show us what happens to women in war.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 06:14 AM
8

Violence, by it's very nature, is unpredictable, with consequences ranging from mild injuries to death. Most people with personal experience with real violence try to avoid it as best we can. But consider this. Women like to be dominated, they like to submit to a strong man. That motivation comes from somewhere, it comes from a lineage of females who have submitted to the sexual dominance of males and thus procreated. They wouldn't behave that way without incentive. Females without that incentiv…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 06:07 AM
1

If she chooses to be a single mother then yes, it does fall to her.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 08:50 PM
1

Yea man, they want to be special. Being strong means you need to have the ability to be an asshole at times. That's just how it works. You've got to be able to ignore other people's feelings and do whats best for yourself, capable and willing to endure the consequences. That's what confidence is about, having the courage to act for your own benefit. Women want a man who can be an asshole but only if it's on behalf of them and never at their expense. They want to be special, he can be an asshole …
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 08:48 PM
1

Oh lord yes, those women try as best they can to raise their son to be their own champion. Mama's boys.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 08:36 PM
1

I'm not sure peace is really the goal. I think they want kids that give them the least amount of trouble/inconvenience. Mostly, they raise kids to avoid the kinds of conflict they themselves aren't good at handling or aren't comfortable dealing with(because when they're young the mother is the one who will have to resolve it for them). However, the types of conflict the mother is good at/liked to deal with will be encouraged by giving the child the skills needed to handle those conflicts. The mo…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 08:31 PM
1

Sure, lying gets you ahead. Sociopaths lie constantly in some of the most hurtful and damaging ways imaginable and it helps them. But it comes at a cost, by lying constantly, you're missing out on a lot of advantages that being honest can provide.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 08:16 PM
4

No clue about proof, I'm just saying what makes sense to me. It would explain why single mothers have raised a generation of beta males. Women are incapable of teaching a masculinity that creates successful males. Only men can teach men to be men.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 07:39 AM
5

Would you? For successful women, it's a constant ego stroke, a continuous series of value re-enforcing experiences. No, they don't want to unplug. But, the choice isn't their's. They are forcibly unplugged when their looks start degrading. Some realize it and source value elsewhere, others are confused and try to continue behaving as they always have. They are puzzled as to why people aren't giving them the experience they have come to feel entitled to. Then they meet feminism and it tells them …
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 07:35 AM
1

Not only is it not challenged, our culture gives women all kinds of justifications for how they feel. It's very easy to simply select the one that approves whatever whim they want at that moment in time. It's actually taboo to point out the truth if it inhibits their wants or makes them feel bad.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 07:25 AM
2

It takes one type of man to live a fun and exciting life and another kind of man to live a boring, stable domestic life with. Different skill sets for different lives.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 02:54 AM
28

They raise them as the kind of man they want to be friends. One who will cater to their wants because they're the mother and that's what their relationship with them will be. They don't want to see their son as the kind of man they have had sexually desires for.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 02:52 AM
0

No, it isn't. You may always lie when it suits your interest, but I do not.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 02:03 AM
4

Could be that's it's a presumption for woman that they'll always do the breaking up. The first part almost reads like a reflexive statement she is used to saying when a relationship ends, then she catches herself and realizes, for the first time ever, she's the one who got dumped. "Oh my, what is this strange feeling I'm having...is that....rejection?? From a man? OMG this sucks!" Plus, you know, it gets her sympathy.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 12:27 AM
22

How long do think it's going to take? If a woman spends 15 years of her life, from puberty to 30, with a sense of identity that says, "I always get lots of male attention without trying, I am super valuable", it isn't going to change that quick. It's a deeply ingrained part of identity at that point. It will take years of neglect and rejection before they adjust their sense of self-worth to reality. Which is of course resisted by a culture that assures them with some excuse that blames everythin…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 12:19 AM
22

...a lot of women lie about their sexuality... A lot of women don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/14 12:07 AM
10

How is false imprisonment the only charge?
/r/PussyPass26/01/14 06:34 AM
1

They answer in the same way many feminists do when they don't like what they hear. Actually, lots of group answer this way, religious, liberals, capitalists etc...
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 04:05 AM
2

Great, you lived with a single crazy woman. What were the other women you lived with like?
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 12:26 AM
2

Ah, then yes, in that context I agree.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 04:20 AM
1

I think useless standards are a problem and I think only caring when it negatively affects women is straight up sexist. Are you saying sexual assault only recently started affecting women?
/r/MensRights17/01/14 03:18 AM
2

Thank god Fresno abclocal news is all over this story because, you know, nobody else is.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 02:23 AM
5

Yep.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 12:46 AM
1

Oh no, I didn't miss the point at all. Nobody cares if a few more men would have made it. They care A LOT right now if a few more women make it. It has nothing to do with relevancy, relevancy is the excuse used to accomplish the end goal, more women in the military.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 12:43 AM
11

Plus, you know, we're men, we just endure right? That's what a man does? Endures things? Am I doing this right?
/r/MensRights17/01/14 12:40 AM
0

Because if you want to do something, gender discrimination shouldn't stop you. It isn't about female soldiers, it's about politics and gender equality. Yes, they are less valuable. The men who fail the physical to join the service are less valuable than the women who might pass. Why? See above.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 10:47 PM
2

Government funding for physical violence programs must have hit their limit. Gotta try another tactic. The more they equate verbal abuse to physical violence, the harder it will be to pretend men don't get abused by women by any significant amount(but they'll still try).
/r/MensRights16/01/14 10:41 PM
6

Anymore.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 10:33 PM
19

"Men are less likely to report the violence due to embarrassment or the assumptions that others won't believe you." What's that? That can't be true right?
/r/MensRights16/01/14 10:33 PM
2

"...how this only became a problem once women started failing them, as opposed to men." That is a good point but obvious. They want women in the military so things must change to get them there. It could have been an equally useless standard before too but nobody cared then.
/r/MensRights16/01/14 10:22 PM
5

Even so though, that doesn't mean the court's decisions don't consistently benefit one parent over the other. Maybe it isn't their intent to benefit single mothers and fuck over fathers but that is what the results are. Anyone interested in seeing that continue will pressure the courts, legislators and others to continue with the current practices that benefit mothers and neglect or ignore the injustice inflicted upon fathers. Further, there is no oversight and the children aren't on control of …
/r/MensRights25/11/13 11:50 PM
1

An article rather lacking in his side of the story. But you're right.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 02:06 PM
1

I don't see the problem here. If you make me feel bad, you should be punished. /s
/r/MensRights19/11/13 11:12 AM
12

Wait, you mean feminist theory is sometimes wrong?!
/r/MensRights19/11/13 08:17 AM
9

Until male reproductive rights are seen as a real issue worthy of respect, shit like this will happen.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 03:36 AM
1

Reddit has always liked pictures and gifs over other stuff, I do too most of the time. But I subscribe to some small reddits like /againstmensrights(3k) and /shittyearthporn(12k) and I see those posts regularly. I also have lots of posts with under 100 upboats in there.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 10:26 AM
2

I am logged in. :P I only really noticed this because I also subscribe to /againstmensrights and see their posts frequently. Within the first 100 on my front page, 8 were from /againstmensrights and 0 from MensRights. The next 1000 posts didn't contain a single /mensrights entry either. /againstmensrights has 3k subscribers and /mensrights has 82k. This is why I am confused, I've noticed this a few times over the last several weeks and it keeps happening, it didn't clear up on it's own. Even /me…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 10:20 AM
0

Or your mom was terrible at her job. :P
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:36 AM
5

The same argument is made for sexual assault and rape allegations.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:31 AM
10

More women vote: Http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf Women control more of the household spending(73% in USA) Sorry I can't get you to the actual PDF on this one but a quick search will get you to several articles, summaries or abstracts that cite the data in the marketing study: Women Want More: How to Capture Your Share of the World's Largest, Fastest-Growing Market by Michael J. Silverstein and Kate Sayre. Copyright © 2009, The Boston Consulting Group, Inc.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:07 AM
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It's already being done. The wider the range of human activity that gets defined as "creepy", the less powerful the word is. Creep has been used to describe just about any undesirable attention or PERCEIVED attention women get from men. Just help nudge it along.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:53 AM
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Men and women have a very different relationship with emotions. Men learn to regulate emotions, we develop the capacity to limit their intensity or stop them altogether. We aren't so good with handling intense emotions that overcome those mechanisms. But this allows men to be rational, logical thinkers, make hard choices and make sacrifices for nobler ideals or future benefits. Women on the other hand learn to navigate intense emotions. They are encouraged to indulge emotions, to be emotional an…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/13 09:14 PM
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"This shit always makes me think of islamic culture," It's not surprising but it's interesting isn't it? Of course you will never hear anyone in the west credit Islamist countries with anything. It's assumed everything they do is wrong and it's all about power/control/oppression. But maybe, maybe some of the rules they have are actually based on accurate observations and put in place to solve serious problems. Of course now that we've freed women in the west from any expectation or social contro…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/13 08:50 PM
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Yes we did.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:49 AM
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It's a Men's issue, is that enough?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:23 AM
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Which would be easier if our culture hadn't already granted them authority over all things gender related.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:09 AM
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If the male space is believed to have value, men aren't allowed to have it all to themselves or it's sexist and bad. If it isn't desirable, it's often diminished, dismissed, made fun of, ridiculed, shamed, made to seem infantile or juvenile or otherwise de-valued.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:05 AM
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Feminism teaches that women are not defined by their gender role. Why would it be any different for men? What they're really saying is the Traditional Male Gender Role is obsolete, not men in general(although some conflate the two intentionally, Ex. RadFems). Can you imagine someone saying women are obsolete because we have washing machines and microwaves now? The woman's movements are a result of technological advancement. The same thing that happens to workers on the production floor when robo…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 10:08 PM
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Movember becomes popular. Some girls don't like feeling excluded from the popular group. They seek to make a girls only version to out do Movember so they can feel part of the popular group again and exact a bit of vengeance by destroying Movember. Sounds like a childish plea for attention.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:36 PM
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It starts as a rational dismissive, then becomes a general dismissive, then becomes a pejorative, then becomes a weapon to silence and invalidate and disparage.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:56 PM
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They require justification to exist.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:54 PM
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Some of it perhaps, each women may be drawn to it for different reasons. But older women aren't the only market, young women consume those stories too.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 04:28 AM
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Oh yea, they are definitely at war with each other. I would bet the married women like the kinky older man stories far more than the single older gals do. They would see it as a dangerous threat.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 10:51 PM
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Hey, I'm not saying guaranteed one way or the other, just that there is a new factor in the mix now that might keep her scared enough to not try it again even if she wanted to. Now that said, there is a constant assessment of social/economic value going on and if he depreciates enough she'll try again. It doesn't matter how much she works out, men age better than women. Men keep their sexual value longer than women and peak in their 30' and 40s rather than early 20s. She's going to drop in value…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 10:27 PM
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Sure, if you want to put your faith in that go ahead. You wouldn't be the first or last guy to get fucked over in divorce proceedings thinking they were safe.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 10:18 PM
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That doesn't always save you though.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 09:35 PM
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Your theory makes sense. In a world of competition, the older women would see the younger as competition and seek to eliminate them socially. They would be sensitive to the reality that they have fewer and fewer options as they age and try and protect 'their' male prospects. Older women who are without a pairing can become bitter or aggressive when younger women they can't match come swooping in to take "their" men. And maybe I would agree with you if female erotica/fantasy didn't feature young …
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 09:33 PM
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Pretty standard. Peer opinion drives female desire. Just look at many female's first romantic foray, teen Idols. For many girls, their first big crushes, their first experience with love and sex and desire are communal experiences with their peer groups. Justin Bieber, Cory heart, N'Sync, Elvis, Beatles, every generation of girls goes through this. You NEVER see boys do this shit. Later in life, the opinions of their peers have a significant influence on what they desire. When other women find t…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 07:24 PM
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Those same women would likely be praising the 19yo girl if she was telling the story about how she fucked the 35yo dude.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 07:18 PM
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Maybe she would try again and maybe not. She now knows he can get much younger women and won't forget that. She's also 35 so her capacity to get men is going to quickly dwindle while his capacity to get women will only increase in the coming years. I'd say there's a good chance she won't try this shit again.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 07:16 PM
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This sounds like a horrible idea. He'd lose big when it comes to divorce/alimony and he'd be with a girl who 15 years later may want the exact same this his now ex-wife did since he's 50 and she's 35. He should keep the girl and keep his wife dancing on the strings. He has the upper hand right now and he should use to his advantage.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 07:02 PM
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When the 19yo girl tells the story of how she banged the 35yo dude it's all sexual lib, girl power, empowering bullshit right? But when the 35yo tells the story of how he banged the 19yo it's suddenly not OK because she's so young? BUUUULLshit.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/13 06:58 PM
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Need more of these types of posts in this sub.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:56 PM
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It's called relational aggression and yes, it is the favored form of aggression for girls. https://webspace.utexas.edu/lab3346/School%20Bullying/CrickGrotpeter1995/Crick%20Grotpeter%201995.pdf
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:10 PM
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Violence tends to be unpredictable,that's a major reason why it should be avoided.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:57 PM
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Yes, they use the power of a word to gain acceptance for a policy or idea that might only be slightly related. Eventually the word loses it's power because of how broad the term's definition become. But they will always find a new word. They are weapons in the war of ideas.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:45 PM
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Bio-trooofs!
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:43 PM
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"At that time, the divorce was not signed, and she also refused to sign it at the later date." I don't think she ever signed the divorce papers. He says they had a separation agreement from Colombia but that obviously isn't the same.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:02 PM
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Stay tuned, there's more to come.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:56 PM
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Loved the part after she talks about how unfair it is out there for women and having the male co-host agree. Him - "Women tend to get better grades on average. Uh, and we also did a study on the common room a couple of months ago about uhm, there's like eleven different characteristics that would lead to some one being a good leader uhh, in their, their job. And that women uhm, dominated on the majority of them which is really inetersting. Uhm, so look..." Her - "And more women are going to coll…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 07:28 PM
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Actually Carol, ALL crime is defined in terms of consent. That's what makes an act a crime, the fact that consent wasn't granted(with a few exceptions, statutory rape being one). The question is not, "Did you agree to the rape[Crime]?", the question is, "Did you agree to the sex[Act]?". The Plaintiff is not a victim until the verdict agrees a crime[rape] occurred. The entire legal apparatus exists largely to determine consent in regard to all crimes. If there is any compelling reason to believe …
/r/MensRights03/11/13 06:15 PM
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Genetic fallacy.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:28 PM
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Said as much in the above reply.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:05 AM
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I agree, in this instance it would be too big an undertaking. But there is plenty of fodder on reddit alone to choose from to start testing these gender assumptions. There have been a few photo reversals or confession/relationship posts that would be very easy to duplicate a month or two after the initial post.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:16 AM
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Start one and find out. I wish when people asked these question on here someone would follow up with actually role reversing the thing to see the results instead of all this wild speculation and assumptions.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 06:09 AM
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They are more like a talent agency who will loose clients if they can't get them enough screen time or their big picture deal.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/13 12:02 PM
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Consent can be revoked at any time and for any reason so your suggestion is effectively useless.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 03:17 AM
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Being asked not to be bothered is a predictor of possible future reactions, it only indicates the increased probability that a future attempt will be harassment. But until the experience of harassment exists, how can it be harassment?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 08:09 PM
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The rest of my post clearly explains my point. Harassment must be a combination of the subjective experience of the victim and the cultural expectation of certain behaviors eliciting an experience of harassment. I do not agree with you that being declined once means any further attempts are harassment. That is unrealistic.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:41 PM
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Because it was a male experience?
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:44 AM
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When we finally admit that suffering caused by relational abuse can be equal or more harmful than physical assault and treat it that way, we might start getting there.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:43 AM
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But is that really true? One can be persistent without harassing. To a large extent it actually does depend on the reaction. If the experience is unpleasant enough then the behavior becomes harassment. Certain behaviors commonly produce that reaction and we note those and teach people not to do them. Other behaviors that less frequently produce the harassment experience are debated and rely heavily on the intensity of the unpleasantness to determine harassment. Those that rarely produce a feelin…
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:39 AM
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I think it's also likely that male-female harassment is prioritized over female-male harassment. Women may be more likely to report it, they may be more encouraged culturally to do so, they are still seen as in more need of support and protection and they are more sensitive to the topic which might lead to more reporting. The chances a man will be reported for the same sexual harassment as a women is more likely. Combined with their role as the overt instigator of courtship and this only compoun…
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:05 AM
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And will continue to be as long as it is effective. I wish this subreddit dedicated more of it's time to formulating counter arguments to the common feminist claims. We should be arming ourselves with effective debating tools rather than just pointing out hypocrisy and double standards. Fact based arguments should be part of all our arsenal with references and statistics readily available.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 12:15 AM
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The entire video game industry was founded, developed and adopted largely by males. They are the ones that took the risks socially, professionally, economically and personally to develop something new. Women by and large(and most of the dominant culture in fact) first ignored it. Then when it didn't go away, shamed and mocked it specifically because the people involved were rejected from the dominant culture already. But it remained until now when video games are an accepted part of the dominant…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:54 PM
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I think it was more of a sign that it had changed. Popular culture doesn't create anything, it simply displays what is already there. As can be seen by their portrayal of geekdom in the show. They are still ridiculed and shamed for their geekiness, it's simply accepted as an unavoidable part of life now. But I'll stop before I start a rant about that fuck'n show.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:30 PM
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It would nice if they release some actual data on the subject.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:54 AM
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The same can be said of every single crime.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:53 AM
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Blew my mind, here's the wreckage. Harm can occur in a wide variety of ways: physically, emotionally, psychological, socially, economically. The damage from each type of harm will vary in intensity depending on context. But all types of harm have the ability to inflict damage as severe or almost as severe as the others. Only the victim knows the damage dealt. Getting punched in the nose(physical harm) may be much less damaging than losing ones job(economic harm) or being rejected by one's peer g…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:10 PM
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It think >80% of the US probably doesn't know what striving for equality would actually mean or what sacrifices would be needed to achieve it. They would largely oppose undesirable changes even if they did create equality.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 08:57 AM
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http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf Page 18-19
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:56 AM
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I find it comforting and a little humorous to watch discoveries like this be interpreted by feminism. It is a core of feminist belief that societies have always been ruled and dominated by men and women had no power. Then whenever a discovery like this is made that shows the power women did carry in past civilizations, it is championed by feminism and women showing the strength and agency of women. It is shown in a light that uses them as unique, rare cases that are inspiring and supportive of t…
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:21 AM
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That's a good anti-rape slogan we'll never see. "Yes mean yes. An erection does not equal consent." Although I can easily see that being misinterpreted to be read as, "Just because she gets you hard doesn't mean she consents to sex." Because you know, the automatic assumption in all sexual violence is that the man is the wrong party and the women is the wronged party.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:11 AM
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Yes rape is just a word, unfortunately 'rape' carries with it a significant amount of power, much more than "Sexual Assault 1st Degree" would. Some people want to keep that power for women predominantly. I would prefer to stop using the word "rape" in favor of new, more specific terms or take back the word rape and redefine it. But either of those would require significant publicity and a concerted campaign to accomplish.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 05:54 AM
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Men get erections frequently when they don't want them(more so when young). This can even be cause for significant psychological conflict and confusion if the erection occurs at extremely inappropriate times(Funerals, beside crying girlfriends, near age inappropriate individuals etc.) This is worsened specifically because male sexual responses are not well understand or accepted by the majority public. Further, it is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT that a man may be extremely aroused and want to have sex.…
/r/MensRights28/08/13 05:44 AM
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1/2/3)I appreciate the explanation. I'll look for the research on my own but if you have sources handy I could read on memory to support your points, that would be helpful. Again though, I don't discount memory being faulty or changing, I accept that. I simply wonder to what extent and how to adequately apply that to the data to get some reasonable perspective. That doesn't seem to have been applied to the CDC report. 4)The 12 month data may show a new trend not present for lifetime totals. That…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:47 AM
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The lifetime numbers are guaranteed to be inaccurate relative to the 12 month numbers. If you must throw out one, the lifetime ones are the ones to go, not the reverse. But more inaccurate than the 12 month numbers? To what degree? Why are we throwing any out? Understanding the limits of the data is really all we need isn't it? Actually, there is a simple and already understood phenomena that can explain the answer. We make our memories conform to the dominant social narrative. It isn't socially…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 04:06 AM
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Yep, nobody has provided justification for that. Yes, that is a big leap. That, "Forced to penetrate" is rape. I think you may be right. The 12 month data is probably a more accurate representation of the 12 months than the Lifetime data is of the Lifetime. Self-reporting does have an unreliable history.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:48 AM
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Numerous valid points like "If we look at the numbers without understanding any of the social science behind gathering the numbers and entirely ignore the more relevant 12 month figures there's just no way to come to the conclusion MRA's are coming to" Making invalid points does not defacto invalidate the valid ones. Yes he was a bit of an ass and also said some inaccurate or misleading things. But he still made some valid points. Who cares about the things he says that are obviously misleading …
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:36 AM
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The numbers indicate that 80% of "forced to penetrate" is committed by women, whether lifetime or 12 month. So yes. This is what the study says. Agreed. I mistyped and have corrected that. But the assertion being countered is that 40% of ALL rapes are committed by female perpetrators(If you include forced to penetrate). In the last 12 months 79.2% of the men who were “forced to penetrate” reported only a female perpetrator. So in the last 12 months(of the report), 1'003'464 men were forced to pe…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:37 AM
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This guy makes numerous valid points. Simply dismissing him because you don't want it to be true helps nobody. This study does NOT show male rape(if you include made to penetrate) to be committed 40% of the time by women. The lifetime totals do not support that conclusion and taking only the 12 month data is deceitful. EDIT: I was tired when I wrote this.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:40 PM
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It is curious to see male concerns from yesteryear(concerns that have been vilified instead of explored) finally get respectfully addressed when women start raising the same concerns. Interesting how that works.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:53 PM
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