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Users should NOT be banned for expressing politically incorrect views that the mainstream anti-male society disagrees with.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 11:15 PM
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Obviously, but the ratios are much less than usual. That's the point.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 11:14 PM
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The moderators have not been following the moderation policy. They have been banning MRAs who are not politically correct enough for their personal tastes. COPY OF HAMDIZZLE'S POST: I didn't violate any rules that I know of, and was given zero explanation. Furthermore the moderation policy was not followed in banning me. Generally we will begin with removing posts and giving warnings but will escalate to temporary and permanent bans if violations continue. However, young accounts and accounts wi…
/r/MensRights26/07/12 06:29 AM
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Um, this is clearly a campaign orchestrated by the enemies of men's rights to disrupt the sub-reddit as an excuse to enforce more political correctness. This has been discussed dozens of times before and the community has always agreed that showing women's bad behavior and the double standards on how they are treated is important. These up-votes are clearly being manipulated. Look at the distribution of up-votes. Thousands of up-votes for the main article, but a very small number for the comment…
/r/MensRights26/07/12 06:08 AM
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It's a fine line but it's often quite easy to spot obvious trolls. CoonTown, Badass, etc. They should have been banned ages ago, but they're still alive and trolling.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 11:19 PM
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When you register a new account you can only post every 9 minutes until you've posted quite a few times at that sub-reddit. Furthermore it takes extra time to move between accounts once you get banned on your main, and when a user trolls in more than one sub-reddit, not just r/MR, then it is quite inconvenient to switch to a new account just to view and troll r/MR. It would only take a few minutes a day for the moderators to ban obvious trolls, and it would be effective. If you remove the abilit…
/r/MensRights01/02/12 12:14 AM
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It is very easy to determine whether someone here is a troll. A troll in r/MR is someone who is in favor of misandry and only wants to derail. For example, Baadasssss. He's been trolling here for months and he still hasn't been banned.
/r/MensRights01/02/12 12:10 AM
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And ignatiusloyola disingenuously refers to anyone who disagrees on solutions as a "concern troll". That is one way in which he attacks those he disagrees with. Others are documented here /r/AboutMensRights.
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:58 PM
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The policies were no implemented equally. First of all thingsarebad and mrstinkybutt both were harassed repeatedly by ignatiusloyola and his cronies such as OThomson. After ignatiusloyola harassment and inaction in implementing the mod policy against users like OThomson, these users staged what appeared to be civil disobedience, doing the same thing that ignatiusloyola and OThomson had done, but not in a politically correct way. They were then banned. It's all part of ignatiusloyola's strategy t…
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:53 PM
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There is no slippery slope. It's easy. Ban users who are clearly pro-misandry and only here to derail and troll. Stop calling users who simply disagree on how to solve men's rights issues "concern trolls". Stop harassing users who he disagrees with politically. His harassment is documented well here:http://www.reddit.com/r/aboutmensrights
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:50 PM
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It's all right here man: http://www.reddit.com/r/aboutmensrights
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:47 PM
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ignatiusloyola uses the term "troll" and "concern troll" incorrectly. A troll in r/MR is someone who is in favor of misandry and only wants to derail. A concern troll is defined at Wikipedia as: A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, …
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:45 PM
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Well that's the point. ignatiusloyola routinely harasses users he disagrees with politically until they get pissed off and he often bans them then. He lies and says they're "concern trolls" even though he's using the definition incorrectly. This is a concern troll: A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to swa…
/r/MensRights31/01/12 11:43 PM
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It was a joy to converse with you and thanks for keeping an open mind even though I may have been more blunt and probably more assuming than appropriate.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 04:31 AM
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I was thinking about this a little more. I don't thoroughly disagree with anything you've said. But consider the following. The "deadbeat dad" label primarily is used against innocent men. Rarely ever is "deadbeat mom" used. There are plenty of bad parents, whether they are mothers or fathers. To use the "deadbeat dad" label, given the last three points, is to encourage the myth that bad dads are common and bad moms are rare. It encourages a double standard and a poor view of men, and therefore …
/r/MensRights17/12/11 04:13 PM
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The truth is an asshole.
/r/MensRights17/12/11 07:29 AM
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Yes. I just try to remain cognizant of the marginalization of any group's views, even whites and men, and to recognize possible double standards, for example that "Stuff black people like" wouldn't be quite so acceptable.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 11:52 PM
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Daily Troll
/r/MensRights15/12/11 07:55 PM
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Indeed, though it's important to note it's more accurately described as Stuff (a small yet very annoying portion of) White People Like.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 07:48 PM
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I didn't realize I was upset either. Spare me your emotional pitter-patter, will you? There are people who seek solutions to men's rights issues, and there are people who only wish to complain and demand change without considering how. Guess which one you are?
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:36 AM
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Please show me how ending circumcision ends misandry. Until then, don't claim it's the most important issue.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:25 AM
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1) Claimed that circumcision is the "most important" men's rights issue, which is stupid. You are latching onto men's rights to push a single issue while largely ignoring the rest. 2) Pushed vacuous leftist dogma that hurts men.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:20 AM
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Because I've seen you say stupid things against MRAs before, while all you ever contribute is circumcision shit, and now you claim this is the "most important" issue? It's important, but it's certainly not the "most important" issue. So I'd suggest you keep your fucking mouth shut about what's important next time you talk with MRAs, and you won't get a lecture in return.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:12 AM
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you go into GBS for a while and "learn how to play on SA." Yeah, I've never been much of a follower. It seems the SA forums attract followers, AKA people who like to be somebody else's bitch. So it's not surprising there are so many manginas and socialists.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:04 AM
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it is the most important. No, it's not.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 01:02 AM
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I think Ozma banned me once. I also remember a bitch named something-"grrl" who all the males worshiped. Daring to blame women for their E/N fuck-ups got me burned a couple times lol. I went to SA for disgusting pics, funny E/N GBS threads, porn, and later, BTB. I guess I should be glad I wasn't completely corrupted and turned into a pathetic pussy-worshiping clown like most goons. I'm sure I must have learned about "not sticking my dick in crazy" from SA, so I should be thankful that I was able…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:46 PM
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Is this really the only issue you care about? Why don't you broaden your horizons? And no, I don't mean harassing other MRAs like you are wont to do. I mean thinking about issues other than circumcision.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:36 PM
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Interesting. I used to go to DPPH. I got in trouble a lot at the rest of Something Awful because it was full of manginas and lesbians who hated it any time someone criticized a woman. I didn't know at the time anything about the MRM or misandry, so I didn't realize that the reason I was harassed was because SA was full of leftist feminist manginas and lesbians. At least I got a lot of good free porn. But damn, I was like 13 at the time. The sad thing is that these SRS / SA types are in their 20s…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:10 PM
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Actually, no. Unlike SRS trolls and leftist manginas here, if the shoe fits it's fine with me. Try me and we'll see. As far as I'm concerned, "gendered" insults are a-okay as long as they're accurate. Cuntburger.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 10:53 PM
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I smiled. I was hoping someone would enjoy that.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 10:52 PM
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The only one being dogmatic is you. You keep saying "blah blah blah doesn't make sense", but you refuse to prove your point within the context of a rational discussion. We've already proven your initial ideas about legislation and technology cannot succeed, and then you ran away. And you keep claiming that anyone who wants to have a rational discussion about solutions to our problems is "disrupting the men's movement". I'd love to see a dialogue on why conservatism can't work as long as technolo…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:19 PM
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He doesn't want women to register with the selective service right now because then they wouldn't vote for him. There are a lot of things he actually wants, which are the policies he's pushing. When the American people fail to elect Ron Paul and the schmuck who is elected continues the US government's meddling in foreign affairs, ensuring World War 3, however, it's possible they'll draft women.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:13 PM
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I'm not dogmatic, I just accept rational arguments. Demonspawn has made a good case for why conservatism is the only possibly viable option to achieve a fair system for men. No one has provided a rational argument for leftism, which is what you are arguing for, and in fact rational arguments have been made that clearly show leftism is and always will be a failure. If you would explain to me an alternative to conservatism that actually makes sense, I would be receptive. As would Demonspawn. That'…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:08 PM
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Oh, he does, does he? Well it's been 3 years, so apparently not.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:05 PM
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Um, no. Why don't you go show Demonspawn how legislation will end misandry. Because apparently you can fix everything through legislation while utterly ignoring the reality of the culture and human nature. Lol. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4dc9/what_is_the_liberal_mra_position_equal_rights/ Also you would do well to end the straw man arguments. You keep claiming I have some sort of dogma. I don't. I merely recognize leftism as wrong and conservatism as having some good points.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:32 PM
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There you go being irrational again. Bad leftist. My only ideology is reality. You have no rational argument that can show even a remote chance of your ideology accomplishing anything, ever.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:27 PM
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No, he's not.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:22 PM
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Hm supporting censorship of anyone who disagrees with leftism and a complete inability to understand rational arguments for conservatism? Yeah, I'd say you're a leftist.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:22 PM
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I'm glad to see the silly socialists who infest this sub-reddit getting pwnd. Too bad they're not smart enough to realize it.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:15 PM
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Uh, yeah you are. Actions speak louder than words. supervictim is merely mocking the fact that leftism is a victimhood ideology. He is explaining that the SRS strategy is to claim that they've all been raped, they're transexual homosexual minorities and women who the evil straight white man is keeping down. Meanwhile these people aren't actually victims of anyone but themselves. Even the ones who claim they've been "raped" weren't.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:09 PM
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You know that one guy in every group of friends, that everybody seethingly hates because he is so grating and annoying, but he always seems to turn up? Everyone in SRS, is that guy. That, and lesbian borderline cutters who cry everyday for no apparent reason. If it weren't for the internet, they'd have killed themselves by now. This is why we don't have nice things!
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:05 PM
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How do you not get it? He's making a mockery of you leftists.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:02 PM
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You're good.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:53 PM
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What the mods need to do, is start banning the koo koos from SRS whenever they post here, period. The mods are too busy harassing MRAs to ban trolls who repeatedly derail. I will agree after sitting in their IRC for a while, they are just really pathetic. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't such utterly hateful creatures, the type of people who make this world a shitty place. This is how I have described them: Ugly trannies, bulldykes, and limp-wristed little boys, who have psychological dis…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:48 PM
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Then you haven't been paying attention. Women don't lie about rape. Where there's smoke there's fire.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:27 PM
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My down-votes are.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 01:13 PM
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Yet more proof that people were smarter back then.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 12:02 PM
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And you are a silly troll.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:32 AM
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Which stem from the flaws I already outlined.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 11:27 AM
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I'm not entirely sure if women are naturally open to receiving Of course they are. We built our society based on how people behaved, not the other way around. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MLg3bi-KY&feature=channel_video_title I'm hesitant to state that men are biologically programmed to give, and women to receive. Do you deny that it is men who have a natural inclination to protect women, regardless of social conditioning? Do you deny that it is men, and it always has been men, who…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:15 AM
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A few things. I accept that there may be bad dads out there. I also recognize that nothing happens in a vacuum, that women are culpable for their choice of mate, especially considering the anti-male pro-female culture, and that because the vast majority of dads who are labeled "deadbeat dads" are NOT, that using the term at all is harmful. Even honestly talking about the bad things a single dad has done can be detrimental to the good dads out there. My suggestion would be that when the subject c…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:56 AM
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Women's fatal flaw: solipsism. Men's fatal flaw: loving women.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:49 AM
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Yes, the culture is largely to blame. But we must also recognize that women's nature comes into play in two ways. First, women are naturally open to accepting these privileges, moreso than men. Second, feminism never could have happened if it weren't in women's nature to accept these privileges or men's nature to accept women's desires.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:48 AM
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We live in a society that tells us women are perfect angels. Meanwhile the vast majority of them are toxic leeches. Blame human stupidity that we would forget the nature of women.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:40 AM
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Within a society that convinces everyone women never lie.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:37 AM
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Weed is not a serious drug. Alcohol is a far more harmful drug.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:37 AM
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When I decided to divorce When a woman divorces a man, he has absolutely no further obligation to her, at least in a just world. A man doesn't become a "deadbeat dad" just because you divorce him and thereby push his kids out of his life.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:34 AM
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Actually, in a society where consent to fatherhood is not enshrined in law but consent to motherhood is... I really don't think there are such things as 'deadbeat dads.' Well put.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 08:31 AM
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Let this be a lesson to all the leftist "egalitarians" who claim men and women are the same and can achieve equality in everything. There's a reason we went from a system that actually worked to a system that heavily discriminates against men and favors women: because women are naturally selfish and men naturally want to give women what they want. If you can't see that there's an element of these women's attitudes in every woman you've ever met, you're blind and stupid.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:34 AM
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Stop being lazy, worm.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:05 AM
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Both have the capacity for freedom of thought and volition. Not the same capacity. If you haven't noticed the differences in the male and female minds, you're willingly blind. Women are eternally solipsistic and emotional. That doesn't mean there aren't males like that too, after all I do believe you are male. But it's far more common for women. Feminine males like yourself exist but are not the norm.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:02 AM
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http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/03/violence-is-golden/
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:02 AM
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http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/03/violence-is-golden/
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:01 AM
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The weight of the evidence demonstrates your mythical unicorn "leftist solution" does not exist. Yet you'll keep screaming at the top of your lungs, but unicorns MUST exist!! As Demonspawn said: Keep trying to turn lead into gold. The rest of us will be working on a solution within the currently known universe.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 06:49 AM
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This is ignatiusloyola's classic "lose rational argument, run away screaming" strategy. See also r/MensRights Moderator ignatiusloyola: A Manipulative Jerk Against Equal Treatment for Men for a description of his tactics.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 06:47 AM
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ignatiusloyola is a self-admitted "socialist bordering on communist" who "abhors libertarians". He also likes to repeatedly shit on anyone who isn't a hardcore extreme leftist by falsely disparaging them as "traditionals who hate equality". Well done in calling him out on it. See also: http://www.reddit.com/r/AboutMensRights/comments/n4g58/ignatiusloyolas_attacks_on_everyone_who_is_not_a/ ignatiusloyola is the type of guy who thinks unicorns exist because he really, really wants them to! http://…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 06:39 AM
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MrStinkybutt and thingsarebad were banned pretty easily, how about this guy?
/r/MensRights11/12/11 09:01 PM
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Maybe leftism is bullshit now, and was bullshit then.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 08:58 PM
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I think the question was WHAT we can do to change it rather than what we would like to happen. It's that old conservative focus on the HOW rather than just what would be nice. Where's the answer? We are working on that. In regards to this I think you said it best: that is assertion that is unfounded.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 08:36 PM
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Because that's blaming the victim (women can only be victims). And for the same reason that we don't say it's okay for men to respond to ubiquitous misandry by expressing their anger through misogyny: emotion overriding reason.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 08:32 PM
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The correct answer to this is to say "Yes, I want to remove women's suffrage, now please kindly fuck off - banned." Moderators, do not respond to this intimidation by bowing down. Ban and move on.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 06:56 AM
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I'm an atheist and a realist. Thanks though.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 04:38 AM
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You've got it backwards. SRS loves ignatiusloyola. They hate guys like me. ignatiusloyola is a radical leftist just like them. I'll be doing a post on it some day soon. You can call me a troll or a drama queen all you like, but I'm not from SRS and I have completely different goals. And whenever I see ignatiusloyola or AnnArchist being divisive by harassing an MRA, I will send that MRA a link to my sub-reddit so they can see that it's a problem with the moderation, and not the movement, because …
/r/MensRights10/12/11 05:41 PM
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You're motivating me more and more to continue to build /r/AboutMensRights. Stop with the disingenuous anti-intellectual bullshit. If you took a statistics class and you can't understand how your point is crapola then it's clear you are just plain stupid. You have a flaw in your neural network, sir, that seems to inhibit the computational centers of your brain when they conflict with the emotional center of your brain. You lose the ability to relate cause and effect, to think rationally, to unde…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 04:51 PM
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"White" People were viewed as superior. Even if that's true, "superior" != "master race". I wouldn't refer to blacks as a natural slave race either. Why is it okay for blacks to be offended while it's not okay for whites? How can you say that someone has to be "trying hard to be offended" when someone disparages their race in an environment that already disparages their culture? And if you don't see that whites are disparaged and mistreated in some ways, then again, you're blind to racism that i…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 01:39 AM
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Really it seems as disingenuous a stance to take as a lot of feminist "studies" that twist the data to suit their purposes, at least to me. I won't claim that ignatiusloyola "doesn't understand statistics" as he is quick to claim whenever someone questions him, but more that he understands them well enough but is manipulating them to suit his purposes rather than remaining impartial. I mean, it's not like I didn't pass statistics with flying colors or I didn't learn about Monte Carlo simulations…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 01:24 AM
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.. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n2j88/the_mrm_will_gain_its_true_power_the_instant_it/c35ruxr Alanna quotes: Upvoted for making me lol. [this was in response to "cracker"] You should have called him a "cracker-ass cracker." (Sorry, Ig, I know I'm not helping.) Yeah, but it was funny. :) [in direct response to you] Also, you said above: It would be like me saying, "Look at that nice white fence" and someone getting offended because I said "white". Not even close. Insinuating that t…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 01:02 AM
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This. I honestly don't see how a simulation is at all relevant. Given the huge population (global or even just in the US or Canada) it is extremely unlikely that you will have more women than men at any IQ level above the threshold where the bell curves cross. And as you reach the very limits of human intelligence, where the population is low, that's where there's at least a marginal chance that you'll have more women than you might expect (due to the small sample size), but that's also the poin…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 12:39 AM
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“When a politicians says ‘Yes,’ he means ‘maybe,’ when he says 'maybe', he means ‘No,’ and if he says ‘No,’ he's not a politician. “When a lady says ‘No,’ she means ‘maybe,’ when she says 'maybe', she means ‘Yes,’ and if she says ‘Yes,’ she's not a lady.”
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:25 PM
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I <3 my police state.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:21 PM
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I'd have to look at the thread but I believe Alanna replied to you again and said something along the lines of "but it's so funny" regarding racism against whites, and then proceeded to continue to be racist against whites.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:19 PM
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How is a Monte Carlo simulation relevant to a static distribution of intelligence in the population? Can you describe this simulation in more detail? We can say with absolute certainty that above some threshold of intelligence, you will always find far more men than women. STEM fields require a high level of intelligence, and that's why not only will you see more men in them, despite the fact that women dominate overall in higher education, but you'll always see more males on the engineering fac…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:14 PM
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Anyone can see the favoritism given to OThomson, and the lack of even a warning for Alanna.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:01 PM
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The argument goes: for each female with an IQ of X, there is a high probability that there is at least one male with an IQ > X, for any X. This isn't at all the argument. You phrased it improperly. Above a certain intelligence threshold there are more men than women, and the greater the intelligence the more men dominate. And yes, there are plenty of intellectual pursuits that require an intelligence level where you will find far, far more men than women. No one's saying that means women with th…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:54 PM
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Some people who don't understand probabilities Points to you.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 11:39 AM
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Just wanted to let you know that Legolas-the-elf may be ignatiusloyola, the r/MR moderator, and he is running a campaign against MRAs. The same guy who's arguing against you here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n24l5/jto_apologizes_for_registerhercom/c35qh35 Both have far-left views (ignatiusloyola describes himself as socialist bordering on communist, and he "abhors" libertarians). Keep an eye out for him.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 10:53 AM
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Yet I will not abide ignatiusloyola to censor MRAs at r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 10:35 AM
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If you are threatened with banning if you dare speak, that is censorship.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 10:24 AM
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That's part of it. Also, users who agree with ignatiusloyola's political views are given preferential treatment whereas users who disagree are threatened and harassed.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 10:17 AM
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Both.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 10:03 AM
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Easy, the man pays lol.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 05:38 AM
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The evidence is pretty substantial IMO.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:41 AM
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That is precisely what MrStinkybutt has done. No it's not. edit: I do think it's interesting that you would label an actual MRA a "concern troll" while welcoming feminists into our midst. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mxog0/equalitist/c34pcjn?context=3 I am starting to worry that this subreddit is full of sexist men. Men invented practically everything because women were not even allowed to for most of history. Now that's some real concern trolling. I'm doing a post on it sometime …
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:36 AM
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I've contacted the admins but I'm skeptical we'll get an answer or even if we do, that it'll be reliable.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:41 AM
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What is the argument against such a post? I'm not seeing it. It spawned quality discussion, the community didn't mass-downvote it, and plenty of people in the community agreed with the article. What makes it "concern trolling"?
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:31 AM
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It's kind of looking like there's no way of knowing we'd get an honest answer. From what I've seen of the circumstantial evidence, I'm convinced, ese. It's too bad that although there is plagiarism-detection software freely available online, I haven't seen any author-detection software available. But we know there are writing analysts who can compare different examples of writing to determine if they were likely written by the same author.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:25 AM
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Well to be true you have censored or threatened to censor various posts related to men's rights, and AnnArchist just yesterday called a men's rights submission "concern trolling" even though it received positive up-votes and clearly was not: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4n5w/meta_lets_have_a_more_professional_environment_at/c3694wt So yeah, I do see a bias in the moderators here and a willingness to censor and disparage submissions they think aren't PC enough for their personal t…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:20 AM
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So you don't have a problem with an IP check on your account versus Legolas-the-elf? (And not just the most recent login, but the IP history, at least through the last month). What would you recommend as the best way to get a hold of an admin who would be willing to do this and impartial?
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:16 AM
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I deleted it so someone else could post it.... I don't have a lot of faith in the moderators here either, lol, as they've been known to mock and harass users they don't agree with. Do I really think AnnArchist would have approved the submission even if I linked to it? No. Perhaps you would have, though. Anyway I may have been jumping to conclusions in this case. I apologize.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:13 AM
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I think he has a dream of turning this place into a leftist utopia full of magical fairies where everyone is a unique yet androgynous snowflake and he is queen bee, but it can't ever happen. It is true, however, that this community can be somewhat helpful in directing people to the manosphere, if ignatiusloyola would stop interfering. ignatiusloyola has more in common with ShitRedditSays posters than actual MRAs.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:08 AM
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I am not Demonspawn, and Demonspawn is not saying he submitted it. (I put this here to make sure you saw it.)
/r/MensRights09/12/11 02:47 AM
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I submitted the video yesterday, not Demonspawn. It never showed up in "New" and it never got more than 1 up-vote. I deleted it today so that someone else could submit it. It wasn't removed by a mod - it was just never approved through the spam filter. I submitted it around 7 or maybe 8 PM ET yesterday, after the reddit server issues were resolved, so I doubt the reddit server issues have anything to do with it. Why don't you talk to your moderator, AnnArchist, before claiming this is a false ac…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 02:43 AM
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:/ Let's have the admins check the IP history of your account and Legolas-the-elf. No? Anyway if you and AnnArchist weren't so busy passing the blame on others and calling me "butt hurt" perhaps my submission would have been approved yesterday like it should have been, rather than sitting there for 24 hours that could have been spent on activism. Time and again you show you value your own ego over the good of the men's rights movement. I'll be happy to keep things on my main from now on, though.…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 02:34 AM
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This is a great activism opportunity guys. Just print out a flyer and head to your local Verizon store. Thanks for posting this.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 02:32 AM
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PS can someone please submit the following activism opportunity to r/MR: SAVE Urges Activists to Protest Verizon Video I submitted it yesterday but the mods never bothered to approve it - it seems asserting their power is more important than men's rights activism. (No excuses please guys.)
/r/MensRights09/12/11 01:13 AM
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Well, that's ignatiusloyola's goal. Push away real MRAs so he can control the "dialogue". Can you submit the following link here? SAVE Urges Activists to Protest Verizon Video It's a great activism opportunity. I submitted it yesterday but the moderators never bothered to approve it (really mature - just goes to show they care more about their petty "power" than the movement). (No excuses please guys.)
/r/MensRights09/12/11 01:08 AM
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Can someone please submit the following link? SAVE Urges Activists to Protest Verizon Video It's a great activism opportunity. I submitted it yesterday but the moderators never bothered to approve it (really mature). (No excuses please guys.)
/r/MensRights09/12/11 01:07 AM
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you are not allowed to speak your opinions Yes, and when you disagree with ignatiusloyola repeatedly, sooner or later you're not allowed to speak your opinions, while those who agree with him are. Thingsarebad and MrStinky banned, OThomson and Alanna receive no punishment whatsoever. That's censorship, in a subtle and more devious form.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:47 AM
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women's privilege in the law are a natural extension of their privilege in regards to their worth physical strength and intelligence aren't relevant
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:45 AM
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Actually that doesn't really answer my question, my bad. Really my question is "how do you stop the cycle of successful conservative society to dysfunctional leftist society from happening again, given that human nature pushes us toward the dysfunctional left if it is allowed to?" I can't think of a society, run by humans, that can avoid this cycling. Religion won't do it if technology is advanced. It seems to me only a technologically-subdued society can remain stable.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:43 AM
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http://www.terry.uga.edu/~mustard/sentencing.pdf
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:36 AM
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Go slap a woman in public and see who's more disposable.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:34 AM
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I agree promiscuity is correlated with infidelity and that it may not cause it, though it wouldn't surprise me if the act of sleeping with multiple partners made it harder for most women to bond with a single man. (You have to realize you are a rather unique specimen, that many if not most women are not like you.) But again, it's hard to tell whether it's just correlation. I'm trying to imagine a society where women can be promiscuous but choose to settle down with one man and actually be a mom.…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:27 AM
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I agree with you that ignatiusloyola is unlikely to change his disruptive behavior. I have updated my original post to make it clear that the most effective strategy for dealing with his behavior may be to simply point it out and link to this post, so everyone knows that he isn't arguing rationally.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:10 AM
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r/MR actually is very anti-censorship in general, moreso than most sub-reddits, which is why I believe ignatiusloyola uses the following strategy to marginalize and push away people he would like to censor: http://www.reddit.com/r/AboutMensRights/comments/n4ekt/rmensrights_moderator_ignatiusloyola_a/ It is a far more subtle and devious form of censorship.
/r/MensRights09/12/11 12:07 AM
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Instead he got a permanent ban.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:55 PM
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I think we've seen what "courage" has gotten other users who stood up to the moderators. I'm not stupid.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:54 PM
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What is the point if not to bring about equality for men? It's been demonstrated through rational argument that the leftist strategy cannot work. No leftist has dared to attempt to demonstrated otherwise or throw any doubt on Demonspawn's argument at all. Thus it seems that the leftist strategy for men's rights is not a strategy at all, but a waste of time, and since we seek equality for men, we must discuss alternatives. That's because constructive.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:53 PM
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Where's your 24-hour ban for using racist words? Oh, that's right, you didn't get one.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:50 PM
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girlswriteswhat is a good poster, as she never fails to be respectful and rational in her arguments. I'm not surprised SRS chose her. OThomson, I'd have to see the hit piece but it wouldn't surprise me if he said something silly. There are a lot of whimsical things that come out of thta fellas mouth. But I have spoken directly with SRS top members and moderators, and they all admit: ignatiusloyola is one of the better r/MR members.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:49 PM
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Then why wasn't your response "Be a human"? For the same reason I think Star Trek should say "Where no man has gone before." Only a leftist would argue that it's more appropriate to call someone an androgynous human than by their actual sex.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 04:07 PM
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I'm starting to think you're right. Just like in the American elections, the candidates (moderators) ignore what the voters (users) are saying and do what's best for themselves. AnnArchist is McCain (he has absolutely nothing worthwhile to say) whereas ignatiusloyola is Obama (deceitful and a do-nothing, yet so likeable!). Neither admits responsibility for their own mistakes, and each spouts platitudes that the ignorant masses celebrate and the informed argue rationally against. And in the end, …
/r/MensRights08/12/11 04:03 PM
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Troll post. What is so hard about saying something constructive?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 04:00 PM
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I'm going to bed and I think I'm too tired to get your point right now, but I will say I think that normalizing promiscuity in women will lead to an increased number of single moms. Even if you magically took away the financial incentives (child support, alimony, welfare - fat chance), women still have a harder time remaining faithful when they've have a greater number of sexual partners.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:59 PM
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Taking personal responsibility is something all human beings should do. ignatiusloyola is purportedly male. Thus, I don't see anything wrong with telling him to "be a man and admit his responsibility for his own actions". Note that he still hasn't done so. Why is that? Why won't he admit his culpability? Meanwhile I'm being harassed by AnnArchist for being "butthurt". I expected better.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:51 PM
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You are not responding in a constructive manner. Who is being divisive?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:48 PM
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4 total up-votes from where I'm sitting. Plenty of good discussion, too. Grow up. Your attitude is what this whole post is about: [META] Let's have a more professional environment at r/MR. It is not acceptable for a moderator to engage in a pattern of personal attacks and censorship, harming the men's rights movement
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:44 PM
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The readers say otherwise.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:41 PM
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This is part of it, yes, but even if you consent to the child, what happens when the woman decides she doesn't want to be with you anymore? If she gets child support and welfare and alimony, then there's still a huge incentive for her.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:35 PM
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You consider that link, a link that clearly discusses the men's rights movement and received up-votes, spam? You consider genuine sexual harassment amusing? (I know it's rare, but repeatedly making vulgar sexual statements at someone is sexual harassment, even if it's on the internet. It's not illegal, but it's not appropriate either.) You consider racism amusing? (Unless it's against a minority.) Read your own moderation policy sometime.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:33 PM
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Why is it all the nobodies come out of the woodwork to defend the moderators every time a moderator-related post is made? When's the last time you donated to the movement? Never.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:29 PM
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Don't let ignatiusloyola hear you. You'll be marked as a "traditionalist" and your views will be summarily demonized.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:28 PM
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It was quite intentional phrasing. Most MRAs in the manosphere would agree that part of being a man is taking responsibility for your own actions. There is nothing wrong with being a man.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:27 PM
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Your posting is clearly manipulative. Howso? people who hold traditionalist views - these are not rights advocates because they are not advocating for actual rights. First of all, the people you claim hold "traditionalist views" don't necessarily hold "traditionalist views". They merely argue rationally that equality cannot be achieved through leftist ideology. There's a whole discussion here about it, why don't you join in? http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4dc9/what_is_the_liberal_m…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:24 PM
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Harassment is what I detailed in the OP. If you think the appropriate response to continued marginalization of MRA views is calling people "butthurt", well you clearly aren't an MRA yourself.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:07 PM
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As I clearly state in the sidebar: All views are welcome, but if you refuse to argue rationally here you will be warned, and if you continue to do so you will be banned. I am largely against censorship, but if you resort to personal attacks and emotional appeals in order to manipulate the conversation, rather than arguing rationally and keeping things civil, you will be banned. I am not afraid of disagreement or dialogue, but I will not put up with games. Let's keep things civil and rational. Du…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:06 PM
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You'd also have to eliminate child support and welfare.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 02:29 PM
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Howso? Who's to say it's bullshit? I haven't seen a successful rational argument against their "bullshit". You expect me to buy that "socialism bordering on communism", which is what ignatiusloyola preaches, is good for men, without any evidence? There's a thread right here where you can prove your point, if you can: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4dc9/what_is_the_liberal_mra_position_equal_rights/ The truth is the users that ignatiusloyola is attacking are not afraid of rational d…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 01:20 PM
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All this "group" of scattered users who happen to disagree with ignatiusloyola have done is stated their opinions and asked for rational discussion, only to be met by harassment.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 01:13 PM
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Drinking anything special?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:50 PM
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being a mod should not restrict me any further than it restricts the user base, when it comes to general posting. Clearly it should. There is no reason to respond to rational argument with personal attacks, which is exactly what you have demonstrated a pattern of doing. I have cut back on resorting to quick jibes in my responses because it is once again possible to tell the difference between legitimate members and trolls. No you have not. You insulted LWRellim and WhiteDragonTiger, users I've n…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:46 PM
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I was assuming that was all he was going to say on the matter. I really don't see how a joke is an appropriate response to such a serious thread, either. ignatiusloyola's pattern of abuse is not a laughing matter.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:33 PM
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Are you seriously implying I'm an SRS troll? SRS believes ignatiusloyola is one of the better men's rights posters because of his far left stance. If there's anyone SRS dislikes, it's the same users ignatiusloyola is harassing.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:31 PM
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If anyone's curious about me- I am a long-time reader and contributor here, but I don't want to become a target on my other username, so I created this one. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4n5w/meta_lets_have_a_more_professional_environment_at/c367dml
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:30 PM
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Both mods must agree to a banning. And both mods harassed and mocked the users who were banned. Neither moderator can claim impartiality. especially when they are taken out of context I provided links to all comments and I believe I've clearly demonstrated a pattern of abuse on your part. Your options for taking action against me are this I don't want to take action against you. I would like you to stop harassing users. Clearly r/MensRights is the only sub-reddit that will, in the short term at …
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:25 PM
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Why? Because it clearly outlines a pattern of irresponsible behavior on the part of a moderator?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:23 PM
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You said: I see no point in making a decision on his behavior until both sides have tried to make their respective cases. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4n5w/meta_lets_have_a_more_professional_environment_at/c367zob So what's your verdict?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:23 PM
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As I've already stated, ignatiusloyola has caused the drama through repeated personal attacks. I can't make this anymore clear.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 12:03 PM
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OThomson was the initiator of both racism and supposed sexual harassment, against MrStinkybutt. OThomson uttered the racist comment first AND he uttered the sexually harassing comment first. Neither OThomson nor Alanna, who joined in the racism against whites, were punished, whereas MrStinkybutt was banned immediately. This sets a precedent. Straight guy tells a girl he wants to have anal sex with her? Banned. Bisexual guy tells a straight guy he wants to suck on his nipples and continues even a…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:55 AM
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That's not true at all. You are demonstrating a clear bias here. Who exactly is trying to divide and co-opt the men's movement, but people like you who claim that MRAs aren't really MRAs? All I want is for ignatiusloyola (and AnnArchist as well) to behave professionally and to stop marginalizing MRAs they disagree with, to argue rationally, and to avoid personal attacks because as moderators this is an abuse of power and shuts down rational discussion. I don't want them to step down, I don't wan…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:50 AM
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And if the moderator himself is trying to divide and co-opt the men's movement, which is pretty clear by ignatiusloyola's pattern of disparaging and marginalizing a segment of the men's movement?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:47 AM
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And where exactly is your demand for evidence here? http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n342c/recent_bannings/ It seems you are, in fact, biased. Like the man who celebrates a false accusation of rape because he "was a jerk and deserved it", you only take issue with the burden of proof when you like the guy.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:44 AM
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Do I run a sub-reddit that's supposed to be an arm of the men's rights movement with a userbase of almost 30,000, where discussion of men's rights is supposed to be lauded? No. ignatiusloyola has a responsibility not to push away MRAs with personal attacks simply because he disagrees with them.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:42 AM
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So you have no problem with ignatiusloyola's behavior?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:38 AM
0

So you have no problem with ignatiusloyola's behavior?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:38 AM
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ignatiusloyola a manipulative jerk That's pretty well explained right here: http://www.reddit.com/r/AboutMensRights/comments/n4ekt/rmensrights_moderator_ignatiusloyola_a/ The fact remains that ignatiusloyola is a moderator here and as I described above, this means he should not routinely casually throw out insults against the userbase here. Do you think ignatiusloyola's behavior is acceptable?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:37 AM
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zomg personal attack! As I've already said in the thread, a pattern of personal attacks from a moderator is more serious than one from a non-moderator. It's right here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4n5w/meta_lets_have_a_more_professional_environment_at/c367k80 I see a bigger problem with a moderator using such personal attacks than a regular user who does not have the power of banning and censorship behind him. If it hadn't been a moderator that attacked these users, I doubt they…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:28 AM
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This is addressed here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n4dc9/what_is_the_liberal_mra_position_equal_rights/c365wlg Demonspawn is awaiting your reply still.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 11:01 AM
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Here's a link which I found during my "investigation": http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n2j88/the_mrm_will_gain_its_true_power_the_instant_it/c35tst8?context=6
/r/MensRights08/12/11 10:48 AM
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By the way, if ignatiusloyola gets to express his political views constantly, why can't everyone else? http://www.reddit.com/r/AboutMensRights/comments/n4g58/ignatiusloyolas_attacks_on_everyone_who_is_not_a/
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:53 AM
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He does have an alleged sockpuppet account (from MrStinky's reddit) http://www.reddit.com/r/TraditionalistMRAs/comments/n37uf/rmr_moderator_uses_sockpuppets_to_manipulate/ It was interesting as I reviewed the banned users accounts that they seemed to get less and less provocative as I went backward in time. That is part of the reason I theorize that ignatiusloyola's repeated attacks (and allowing users like OThomson to attack without any punishment) contributed to those users taking it personall…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:37 AM
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This is a really easy way for us to get involved in men's rights activism. All you have to do is go to your local Verizon store!
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:24 AM
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These are only from within the last month. Do you have other examples? I see ignatiusloyola's behavior as a pattern of marginalizing those who do not agree with his ideology, all the while insisting that he is against censorship. Well, you don't have to censor anyone if you marginalize them so that they're ignored, and ban the few users who take it personally. It's hard to really demonstrate this pattern sufficiently with a bunch of links to obvious personal attacks, because it runs deeper than …
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:19 AM
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Letting women be sluts leads to single motherhood which leads to a whole lot of bad things for society. How do you deal with that?
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:17 AM
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It is absolutely relevant, as Demonspawn has clearly demonstrated within this thread. You don't get to just ignore reality because you don't like it. Either prove your point or go away.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:16 AM
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A related question is how traditionalism will solve the problem of female privilege, which leads to feminism. How do you prevent feminism from recurring when it is a natural extension of female privilege in a technologically advanced environment? Even if technology were to give men an alternative to women as "incubators" for children, we are still programmed to protect women at our own peril. Everything always seems to come back to nature, it seems. Ah, it seems like you answered that here and h…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 09:07 AM
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ignatiusloyola's record of harassment of men's rights advocates simply because their opinion differs from his personal opinion is totally unacceptable. Due to his position as a moderator, users who are victims of ignatiusloyola's personal attacks are made to feel as if they are not welcome at r/MensRights. This is especially true because ignatiusloyola has a record of censoring and banning men's rights advocates he disagrees with, after repeatedly egging them on, while giving those he agrees wit…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 08:52 AM
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ignatiusloyola: If you read the new policy carefully, sarcastic, rude and inflammatory comments are not against the rules. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mrx4h/new_moderation_policy_for_rmr/c33ru85
/r/MensRights08/12/11 05:48 AM
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I have created a post detailing the truth about ignatiusloyola's behavior, which is that he is the one instigating personal attacks and he is the one trying to push people away from r/MensRights who he doesn't agree with: r/MensRights Moderator ignatiusloyola: A Manipulative Jerk Against Equal Treatment for Men
/r/MensRights08/12/11 05:20 AM
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