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I got Klinefelter syndrome, meaning I'm reliant on hormone injections since I don't produce my own. You won't directly die from it, but living without sex hormones fucks up your body big time, and I do not want to do that again after having done so for 16 years. In short, yes, I need it
/r/MensRights21/02/22 05:25 PM
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I have klinefelter syndrome, meaning that I don't produce my own testosterone, and thus am reliant on hormone injections, which I can only get because my mom pays insurance which I can't afford on my own. So no, I won't die without it, but I don't want osteoporosis, permanent tiredness, and all the other shebang that comes with having no sex hormones. Also, I live in the Netherlands. I was thinking about choosing homelessness over this, but then I realized, I need my medication, so it's not real…
/r/MensRights21/02/22 04:20 PM
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Well, nobody else can provide me medication, you know? And yes, I did pick out a cheap, trade college I want to go to, because the higher education my mom wanted me in is too difficult for me. So, I showed my mom which school and which degree I wanted, and she declined because "it's too far away". I could off myself over it. How can one human being do all this stuff to someone else. No wonder my stance on women turned out the way it is...
/r/MensRights21/02/22 04:16 PM
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A year, I only turned 17 recently. Also I'm medically dependent on my mom and her family, even after 18 because I can't afford my own insurance/medication, so I'll have to stay with them until I can, which won't be any time soon.
/r/MensRights21/02/22 04:06 PM
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I'm not "letting" anyone, your parents legally own you and your money until you're 18, hence why I can't do anything legal against it. Also I'm medically dependent on my mom+her family(can't afford own insurance), so even after, I have to continue living with them until I can. It's really not that I don't want to, I'm just pretty much stuck :/
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:47 PM
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Yeah but like, I want them for myself for once. I don't want any woman profiting off of it. Because that's always what happens right now and I couldn't hate it any more. Sure I do things for myself, but there's always a woman, usually my mom, profiting off of it without doing anything so I don't want to do it anymore
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:41 PM
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Yeah, I know, I used to believe that too. But I'm not sure if I even want to do those things anymore when I know it's gonna be all in favor of women, one way or another. That's how things in my life always seem to go. I never get to have something 100% for myself...
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:37 PM
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Damn, I envy you. Hopefully only 3-4 more years before I'm out of this mess... I'm saying that as if that's a good thing...
/r/MensRights22/01/22 02:38 PM
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Yeah, when they mother and father are a couple and still together, I was talking about single parents specifically....
/r/MensRights08/01/22 06:07 PM
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So in conclusion, female parents are more abusive. I don't care about the reason behind it, the fact that it happens pisses me off, especially since it hits so close. And in my case it wasn't even because of a divorce or whatever, my father willingly left... And yes absolutely, women get away with everything nowadays.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 06:01 PM
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Oh, no doubt they're out there, both genders can be shitty people. However single moms being abusive to their sons is much more common and often more severe. In real life, I have no problem finding people who relate to this, but when I search for online support groups, all I get is stuff for single moms how to deal with their kids. Pathetic.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 05:49 PM
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Obvious one would be FDS. And pretty much all relationship orientated subreddits.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:05 AM
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With ethical problems I was talking about crispr. I used to be pro-crispr, but someone(multiple people, actually) pointed out that that way super soldiers who can invade countries in hours can be created, or a slave class who will never rebel, and that didn't sit right with me. I don't really have much empathy and emotion, but that definitely didn't sit right with me. Yes I'm against abortion, but I don't mind stem cell usage, in fact it can "cure" infertility by making artificial sperm and egg …
/r/MensRights27/09/21 10:43 AM
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As someone who grew up and still lives with my single mom I sometimes just whisper to myself "it's just guilt tripping, it's just guilt tripping" to not fall for it. Don't get me wrong, I love her dearly, and she's a good person, just not as a parent. I don't see how this helps others tho. And yeah definitely with the woke stuff. Not really relevant here, but in my 1st year of highschool I was fully supportive of "purple friday", which is like an extra lgbt pride day here. I'm in my 4th year now…
/r/MensRights27/09/21 05:40 AM
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I got that and I'm sorry, but I didn't want to make the list too long, because what about Indian and Maori men who are treated unfairly? That way we could go on endlessly. Still, point taken, but I just said black and white just to keep it shorter. But ofcourse I want equality for everyone of every race, tho, can you really classify humans into "races"? I don't believe so, but to each their own. But yeah I want equality for men(and women) of all races.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 05:28 AM
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Different, yes, but not strange and weird, right? And I do still consider it a slur. If someone wants to use it to describe themselves, fine by me. But I don't like it when it's used to describe every lgbt person. That's all
/r/MensRights26/09/21 10:05 AM
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It most definitely is. I and many others consider it so. It means weird and strange, and I don't think being lgbt is "weird and strange". Am I "weird and strange" for being bisexual? I suppose I'm okay with it if someone uses it to describe themselves, but don't use it to describe the whole group, considering less people are taking lgbt people seriously because of those "uwu I'm queer" people because nothing changes when you say you're queer. It has no meaning, and it's used to insult people. Th…
/r/MensRights26/09/21 09:04 AM
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Welp, I learned something new. Also, nice username, I used to be active on those subreddits before they got banned. But I guess I can't do anything pro mens rights in my field of study. Still, something else you can suggest?
/r/MensRights25/09/21 10:09 PM
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No problem!
/r/MensRights25/09/21 10:00 PM
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Welp, I want to be a biologist/biophysist, so there goes that plan. Still, someone could still do it, but it's not gonna be me, I want to be a biologist. Something I can still do regarding mens rights? I've heard biology is also a female dominated field with the whole ¨sisters in science¨ thing what's going on so yeah... But I still wanna be a biologist Also, what's a head shrinker? English is not my native language so I'm still learning niche words and I'm too terrified to google because it sou…
/r/MensRights25/09/21 10:00 PM
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Absolutely true, but since this post focusses on the social situation where women are often priviliged, I decided to go with ¨I want equality for men¨, even though obviously every human being is equal, I'm sorry if thought otherwise, but please know that yes, I am for equality for every human being!
/r/MensRights25/09/21 09:49 PM
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Yeah, but a downvote on a post with 500+ upvotes will do nothing... you won't even see it, only the OP can see how much percent it's upvoted. I wanna do something irl so that more people are at least aware this problem exists...
/r/MensRights25/09/21 09:30 PM
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I'm fully for the rights of gay, bisexual and trans men as I mentioned in the post? I have nothing against that so why bring lgbt int this...? Heck I'm bi myself, why would I be against that? Also just a note it's lgbt, the q for q***r is a slur... I just want men to be treated equally on social level. Have teachers support male students as much as female ones, have counsellors take male students more serious, that sort of stuff. And as I said, I want to de more than performative activism and tw…
/r/MensRights25/09/21 09:16 PM
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Me, who wishes I had a good dad whilst growing up: 0.0
/r/MGTOW02/07/21 06:35 PM
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True that though. Suffragettes did some crazy stuff back then, which to some extend was understandable, and didn't physically hurt anyone, but this one always stood out for me, she literally killed herself in a really painful way, for what exactly? And you're right, if she was suicidal, she probably would've chosen a less painful, less public way. Then again, for me it's always a mystery what's rattling in a woman's head, so who really knows
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 05:13 PM
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Okay, I totally get that sometimes your thought process isn't 100% reality and sometimes things don't go as planned, we all have that sometimes. But how do you think "nah, jumping in front of a bunch of horses running at full speed in my direction won't kill me" like... I get that voting rights are important, but there's better ways to do that than publicly committing suicide in one of the worst ways I can think of.
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 05:05 PM
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Yes that's her! I still can't wrap my head around why one would do that to themselves. What are you gonna do with voting rights when you're dead anyway? And had a quite painful death too, I can imagine at least.
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 04:57 PM
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Yeah... I dunno the thought behind it either. It's not like you can enjoy your voting rights after you got trampled to death, assuming it worked.
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 01:52 PM
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I forgot her name, but back in the day there was a suffragette who threw herself in front of a horse race in the name of "women's rights"... Seems like nothing changed in 100 years
/r/MGTOW01/07/21 08:31 AM
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Brahmachari? Never heard of that before, what does it mean? I was just talking about how shitty my (former) single mom treats me, but now that her boyfriend's here, it's only gotton worse, since the little attention I recieved now goes to him. Plus the school system isn't exactly supportive either. I can give tons of examples why, but just believe me, the school system sucks for both boys and girls, but especially for boys imo, so I only have myself. So yeah, what are you talking about with "bra…
/r/MGTOW201/07/21 08:17 AM
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I play 99% on laptop(windows), though I'm saving up for a switch. Not looking forward to any specific release, except I really hope they start working on fallout 5 soon, if that ever comes out...
/r/MGTOW24/06/21 05:25 PM
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If we're gonna talk about social circles and being "left out", right now, I like my class, since I easily make friends with like, everyone, so long as they're even semi-likeable and aren't a grey rock, I'll try and befriend them, or at least be nice with them. However, since I failed this schoolyear thanks to corona, I'll have to re-do it, and I'm going to be placed in a feminist type of class, since that's the class that'll graduate to the year I'm going to re-do. For some reason, I don't mind …
/r/MGTOW23/06/21 01:37 AM
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Right on! I've been diagnosed with autism as a kid, and as a result I was sent to therapy to "learn how to be social", though I'm probably the most extroverted and outgoing person you'll meet, though that changed with corona sadly. But despite that, they still sent me there because I "didn't follow the social rules" or whatever... they do realize that every "group" of people have different social rules? Whatever, I'm 16 now, they legally can't send me anywhere without my consent. But yeah, the b…
/r/MGTOW22/06/21 06:52 PM
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Same here! Glad to see some younger guys around here. Good to know I'm not the only highschooler who just wants to study and play videogames instead of chasing girls
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 02:20 AM
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Thanks alot, I get alot of comments that my English is so good, if only the same went for my English classes... Like, nobody on a overseas job interview is going to ask "what are all definitive articles and abstract pronouns and recite the third act of romeo and juliet right now!", they just want you to speak decent English enough to understand others and have others understand you... Also yes I'm 16. I'm currently trying to learn French as a 3th language, because it's a school subject, and I lo…
/r/MGTOW21/06/21 06:52 PM
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Thanks man! Yes, I do think biology can save the world, since we can understand diseases and how to cure them. And even though I'm not going to be a virologist, I think the so called "permafrost viruses" are very interesting(and can potentially make humanity extinct if we're not careful, but interesting nonetheless), Russia is currently busy with that kind of stuff, because of the melting ice, they can end up in our ecosystem and kill all human/animal life since nobody has build immunity to 40.0…
/r/MGTOW21/06/21 02:06 PM
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Nope, down syndrome is a bit different, that's an extra 21st chromosome, meanwhile klinefelter is officially an intersex disorder, since I have both male and female chromosomes, though my genitals are 100% male, just smaller than average, though that changes with testo, obviously. For my looks, they're not that special, I just still have my baby face, high voice, and even have slight breast growth, though it looks very different from female breast growth. I'm not overweight either, so that's pur…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 09:47 PM
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For the regular population, milk is exponentially healthier than burgers, fries, ice cream and soda. Oh, I've got no doubt about that. I mean, even if I can't really build muscle, I can still lose/gain weight, so eating healthy is as important for as it is for everybody else. I try to stay away from soda's and candy as much as possible. And for the milk, as I said, if any out of body sex hormone enters my body, it's going to get it's way, because I have no testo to combat it, which is why I'm wa…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 03:25 PM
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It sucks to here that someone else, and probably way more people, have to live with neglecting parents... I used to think that my mother cared about me in my childhood, and moved on to my sister when I became a teenager, but the thruth is, my mother never cared that much about me, or at least not 100%. Not saying she didn't love me, loving someone/thing and caring about someone/thing are two different things imo. But she always used to yell that I was "most egotistical person I ever met" and "on…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 01:52 PM
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Well, about the milks, I don't produce testosterone myself because I have klinefelter. So every sex hormone that gets added through "out of body" sources, will gets it's way. And as far as I know, there aren't any foods that contain testo. There are a few that can help with making your testo levels higher, but none that actually contain the hormone itself. And yeah, since I don't produce very little to no testo myself, I can't balance it out by working out. And I won't get testo injections until…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 12:32 PM
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It really feels like that sometimes, yes...
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 02:32 AM
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Well as I said, technically speaking, I am half women. I have xxy47, so I am male because xy and also female technically because xx. I wonder if they'll accept it. About the gender bs in college, I dunno long ago you went, but it's different nowadays. I looked at mit's website to see what majors they offer, because mit is my dream college and I hope to get a scholarship there. Anyway, they do offer majors in "women and gender studies"... so much for a prestigious technology school... wouldn't su…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 12:37 AM
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Yes, and I expect to do way better upcoming year, since now I actually get to sit in a class room, first row, where I can actually pay attention, instead behind a laptop... Also, "girls are the ones to be saved" fuck that bullshit, they can save themselves if they're that desperate, I had to do it that way too. It's sad that men have to work 5x harder than women to achieve the same thing. Thanks alot, "female only scholarships"... On a semi-serious note, I've been thinking about just applying fo…
/r/MGTOW20/06/21 12:06 AM
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As far as I'm aware, my sister isn't trying to make living off of it, but is very much influenced by it nonetheless. I even suspect that's where she got the whole non-binary thing from, because tiktok is known for that kind of stuff. Last time I heard, she's enrolling lower highschool education and is probably going to get a basic job after that, or try to enroll trade school after if she's still a little bit smart. And with her being non binary and all, I'm generally supportive of lgbt, be it g…
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 10:27 PM
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You call your low effort, barely educated, non-binary, lesbian sister a blue pill Bluepill as in, she probably is bluepilled, or can at least be described as such, and she seems to get through life much easier. I wish I had it that easy, that kind of lifestyle seems so much more relaxed... Don't create more single mothers If by this you mean "don't impregnate a girl and then leave her, thus letting her become a single mom", I got good news, because I have klinefelter, so I don't produce fertile …
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 10:06 PM
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I don't really know what to say about this, only that it sounds like it makes sense, and it sounds like good advice, take my upvote. I'm working hard to get into a good university get my degree in either biology or biophysics, haven't really decided yet. Maybe even a Ph.D, though I'm sure in what yet. I'm also studying for the biology olympiade, google it if you don't know what it is. I'm training for it because I really like biology, I want the fancy prizes you can win with it, and it probably …
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:55 PM
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I try to do that, but sometimes I just lose my hopes whenever I see stuff like this. I mean, why can my sister just get a lower highschool education with bare minimum grades, but I work my ass off at higher highschool education? I'm even failling this year because all teachers are shit at teaching online classes, so I learned absolutely 0 this year, so I have to re-do this year. Not so much of a problem for myself, but my mom keeps asking me "why couldn't you have done better?", meanwhile lets m…
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:48 PM
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I used to work some retail job, but got laid off after 1 year and 5 months of working there because... god knows why. I don't want to get a job early summer because all vacatures are crammed full of applients, so they'll never choose you. I'll try to have a new job by the end of august, when vacatures aren't so crammed anymore... And about the money... well, since I am a minor, my mom has 100% control over my bank account, and can thus take out money whenever she wants. It used to be that she'd …
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:40 PM
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Thanks alot! I try to do what I can, since my klinefelter does limit my physical ability, so I only workout to not gain any more weight than necessary, which is already way better than my mother and sister are doing, though my sister is doing okay for herself I have to admit, and is actually a fun and nice person outside social media, so I just hope she doesn't get to consumed by it. And as I said, I have a limited physical capacity, so I'll just have to make it through life by books and studyin…
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:32 PM
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I know, I mean MGOTW, Men Going Their Own Way, what's there not to understand? It was more that because by living with my single mom and social media dwelling sister, I get fed bluepills daily, which sometimes makes me lose hope. I know the right thing to do is what I want, but it gets hard to remember that sometimes when I see what my sister is doing for example, just getting a lower highschool education, enrolling trade school when you graduate with bare minimum grades, and get a random job so…
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:17 PM
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Eh, I don't worry about social acceptence that much. I've always done what I liked, and it always worked. I mean, I'm really extraverted and social, so I like being around people and talk easily. The only thing I'm not interested in is romantic relationships, with anybody, you probably understand why. It's just that I see so many people doing this fake-ass bullshit that it kinda makes me lose hope sometimes, that I start to wonder if I'm still doing the right thing. Regarding my study, but also …
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 09:02 PM
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Read up on female social matrix Where? I googled it, and I only got one reddit post from the redpillwives subreddit, not the most trustworthy source imo. If you just mean that women tend to live with a hivemind, then yes, you're 100% right. It's why everyone I speak to seems to defend single moms. Then again, if I saw two people, one of which starts social media drama for fun, and one of which is actively studying whilst trying to maintain their health, I'd know whose behaviour to copy, y'know? …
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 08:32 PM
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Yeah, and I know that what I am doing is right, but it's kinda hard to ignore them when they're always there. Like, at least my sister is normal outside of social media and can actually be fun to be around. My mother however, is not. First of all, the wall, I don't think I need to explain, but still thinks she looks hot or whatever. She also still wears the sl*tty clothing from when she was a "rock chick" back in the days.... not a pleasant sight, and I hate to go out in public with her. And it'…
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 08:23 PM
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Well they already got the venomous part
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 08:14 PM
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They claim they're the "strong and independent" ones and that men have "fragile/toxic" masculinity" meanwhile their whole ego is shattered when men get one day for themselves
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 08:10 PM
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Single moms spending all their time trying to feminize their sons furthur and furthur because it's "progressive and good and healthy for them"
/r/MGTOW19/06/21 08:08 PM
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Been watching futurama for the first time lately, great series so far, except I always kinda cringe when Fry simps for Leela. For the rest, it's a great show!
/r/MGTOW208/06/21 09:49 PM
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You must have a 6 figure salary to date her? Guess she really is bro(o)ke
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 04:31 PM
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Yeah she's recovering from anorexia, a very extreme recovery, you could say
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 12:37 AM
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yeah basically. Mine was about how so called "non-binary" people ruin most of the lgbt-community. Though I myself am not lgbt, a good friend of mine is and I feel sorry for him and his friends he probably has in the community, but hey, you can love those people all you want, but say one bad thing about something genuinely destructive, bye bye free speech amirite? On the topic of lgbt-stuff, I can't be the only one who remembers the "die cis sc*m" g̶i̶r̶l̶ ̶b̶o̶y̶ freak, who got billions of billi…
/r/MGTOW10/05/21 10:48 AM
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Moral of the story: stay far, far away from tiktok. It's turning girls into mindless whores and guys into their simps. Tiktok is literal poison!
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 09:43 PM
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Had this happen myself, lol. You can have an unpopular opinion, so long as we agree with that "unpopular" opinion, alright?
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 07:32 PM
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my friend is 15, I'm 16. He skipped a grade once I think, or just whacky birthdate so your age is different from the rest of the grade. Oh, and his girlfriend is 14. I really start to wonder how longer her "hotness" remains. I'll give it to her early 20's. But you know, sometimes it's hard to not become jealous. I'd love to be with a chick one day, but I can't in my teen years because reasons in the post, and in adulthood, girls fuck you up even harder than they do in teen years. Guess I gotta e…
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 06:23 PM
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I did, and I am approved for testo shots, but there's one downside to that: My starting date will be december 2021. Fucking. December. 2021. That's like, half a year away, and I've been waiting for ever since puberty is supposed to start(somewhere around 14 IIRC), so that's a long-ass time. The diagnosis took ages, the approvement took even longer, and now waiting to actually start the treatment. It sucks, and they refuse to elaborate any furthur than "medical priorities" when I ask about the lo…
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 01:29 PM
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I don't know what highschool you went too, but here, all the girls are involved in feminism and stuff. Heck, we even have a so called "feminist" club for students to discuss feminism. No counterarguements allowed tho... Heck, the only girl I've ever asked out was a raging feminist. Her appearence didn't give it away, but when I got her instagram account, it was full with feminist posts. I later discovered that almost all girls are like that. I've even seen some of them wearing "I don't serve men…
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 12:20 PM
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I get that, but that doesn't take away sadness at all. I don't want to make it seems as if I want to go for another man's girlfriend, but she is really hot, gives you lots of attention, seems pretty reserved and fucking on the daily. Seems like a great thing, since she can't divorce rape or baby trap you because you're both minors. I know it's wrong, but somehow, it seems great. I just hope this all turns out great, it better fucking does. I'm studying my ass off and I still have to re-do this e…
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 01:06 AM
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Well, my friend and his girlfriend are both underage, so divorce rape literally cannot happen in their case. And well, I'm gonna be honest, teenage relationships don't last that long, let alone to adulthood. Heck, the people I'm talking about already broke up once, then started fucking each other, and got together again. And I'm telling you she is hot af, so I can't blame the guy. And he's 100%, basically, since you can't divorce rape minors and baby trapping don't work because condoms+birth con…
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 11:51 PM
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Only a few more years, eh? For me, it's 3.5 more years. Which I realize isn't that much compared to your whole life, but it still sounds like alot to me. Most of my friends have graduated highschool by then, but I have a higher highschool education, so I have 6 years instead of 5+ I have to re-do this year because of grades that have lowerd due to corona and they want me to have another chance at it blah blah blah, meaning I have 3 more years of highschool.... But in a way, you're right, I guess…
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 10:45 PM
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Sorry mate, let me just change my feelings this instant /s I know this is too heavy, but how else am I supposed to feel about it? I'm probably overreacting, aren't I? In that case, how not too? I don't understand. I'm sorry if I sound confused and overreacting, but I'm kinda lost right now, you know? Is there anything I can do to make anything about this better?
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 10:22 PM
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That makes sense, though I don't understand what that has to do with happiness. You're right though, school is so boring compared to my outside school life, such as my job or hobbies etc. Not a reason to drop out of school, just sayin'. Hope I can start that so called "real life" soon so I can leave most blue-pilled stuff school forces down your throat behind. Also, respect for you man, I don't know what kind of teacher you are, but I know most highschool teachers actually have it really hard, s…
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 10:00 PM
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Just so you know, these are the kind of people where doing this kind of bullshit for (nsfw warning, the bad nsfw)
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 09:56 PM
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Women before feminism: B-but muh free speech, women can do it too!!! Women after they became the vocal majority: Shut up dirty male!!! #girlboss xoxo
/r/MGTOW07/05/21 09:51 PM
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Alright, sounds good. Since we have to pre-record them and not perform them live, I can do multiple takes too. I already finished the first scene, gonna do the 2nd one today. I still hate art class, but it isn't as bad as I thought, luckily
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 02:42 PM
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I'm not old enough for the military, and even if I was, I have klinefelter so I probably won't pass the medical exam, nor am I physically fit enough for the military Never quitting is still good advice though, but it's easier said than done. Hey, I'll keep working on it, y'know?
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 12:39 AM
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Thanks, same to you!
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 08:59 PM
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Later reply because I watched the whole thing first, and holy fuck that's one of the clearest things I've seen/heard in a while. Mentally very motivating, Sadly, he does talk alot about "you're young, so lots of energy so go out and do it" which, generally speaking, would be great advice, except that I got klinefelter, which basically means I produce no sex hormones, which means that I'm easily tired and physically weaker than the average person, which I struggle alot with. The rest though, 10/1…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 08:41 PM
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Okay, thanks bro, I'll be building it up slowly again. I just hope I'll be fine again soon
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 06:33 PM
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Well, I finally started my overdue art project, and my teacher will still accept it if I turn it in before holiday is over, or so she said. I made the remaining props for it, and even filmed the first scene of the music video we have to make. And yes, I have re-do this school year, but if I get at least a B for my arts and social studies final exam, I don't have to re-do those courses next year, so better go for it y'know?
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 05:03 PM
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I don't hate school, just certain things about it. Mainly that Arts and social studies(women's studies in disguise) are mandatory courses and have a mandatory final exam. And I still have an overdue art assignment I got extra time for I have to finish, but I finally made progress, made the remaining props for it and even filmed the first scene!
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 05:01 PM
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Yup, you're right. I actually made a list of tasks for the assignment, and actually filmed the first scene, and am drawing and colouring them in now. Also, even though it's not my style, but nice song you linked! I'll get this done!
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 03:57 PM
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Thanks bro, been doing that, and unpacked everything I need to do my arts assignments, which are one of the most bullshit thing about school and are the most dreading things about school. I'll start working on it!
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 03:04 PM
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Doesn't work for me. I can't do anything. Not even sleep reguraly. Can't even bring myself to sit behind the computer and do stuff or start a program. I just lie in bed staring at the ceiling, or sit behind the laptop staring at the wall. I don't know what it is, it seems like I can't do anything. I'm really glad it worked for you, but it seems like nothing helps for me. I can't do anything, so it seems. Or well, physically, I could, but I can't bring myself to actually do something. And I don't…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 02:10 PM
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I'm currently in the last semester, with the final exams in the last school week. And yes, my mentrix understands that I have no motivations because I won't pass. Talking with teachers isn't an option anymore, believe me I tried. Also because the teacher basically have no say in wether you pass or not, it's purely down to the grades. Yes, the government is passing laws where a teachers opinion has more weights, but those don't pass soon enough to work for me. However, my mentrix said I should st…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 02:03 PM
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What, you mean the art assignment thing I'm creating? Because it's not all that interesting imo. I'm creating a video clip to Elton Britt's "uranium fever" because I like fallout and it's one of my favorite songs on the in-game radio. I do the stop motion part so I don't have to do as much dancing and singing myself, and I just playback to the chorus while wearing time appropiate clothing (I LOVE vintage stuff and the 20's-50's era)(except ww2, ofcourse) so yeah, the teacher also said she found …
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 01:43 PM
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Sadly can't turn of router because I live with my mother, and all my music I want is online. Anyway, I dug up some previous work I did prior to the holiday(the teacher's plan was to do preparations at school, then film the thing in the holiday), so I guess I'll start working soon, escpecially since I have to return borrowed equipment to her, and the actual assignment too, ofcourse. But yes, having this stuff forced onto me sucks. You know, I actually used to like art class, I could recreate stuf…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 01:40 PM
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Guess you have a point. I'm gonna start working on that art project soon, I actually dug up the storyboard and stuff I made for it in the meanwhile, so I guess it's gonna be alright, the stopmotion part is the least hard thing, it's the dancing and singing part I have to do myself. Guess I'll see how I do that if I get there
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 01:18 PM
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No, I love studying, especially biology and certain parts about physics and chemistry, and yes, I mean theoretical stuff, although I also love lab work. But do you know what I don't love, or even like? Mandatory bullshit classes like mandatory final exam in arts and "social studies", which is really just women's study and listening for 2 hours a week why feminism is great, and the exam is just listening these reasons from the top of your head. And that's why I hate school. And not to mention tha…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 12:43 PM
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Well, unless I get a 18/10 on at least 3 tests, I'm going to fail, so that's no option. And I'm exactly talking about "mandatory classes", since we now have to film a "music video" where we playback to some stupid songs for a grade that's part of the final exam. But I physically can't bring myself to do it. Hang up the screen for a plain background, set up the camera, and do the actual singing and dancing. It needs to be done by the next weekend. Yes, we got a total of a week to do it. And I can…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 12:37 PM
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I hear that alot, yes, doing stuff in tiny steps, but where do I even start? It just seems all so big, and knowing that I'm going to fail anyway isn't motivating either. Guess I'll have to give it a try anyhow. Guess that coffee is a good starting point, and then maybe start colouring in that stop-motion I still have to make for my arts exam. Yes, it's mandatory to have a final exam in arts. I don't know why our school "teaches" us this, or even make it mandatory. Eh, it needs to be done within …
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 11:53 AM
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Why did your grades go down so much ​ First of all, the whole pandemic thing, my mother nearly died earlier this year, my klinefelter diagnoses came as a hit(idk why, I knew I was physically different, but having a whole disorder with it and knowing I'd never naturally produce testosterone was just such a hit to me) and now I got the whole thing with my moms boyfriend... this year just fucked me over, alright?
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 11:21 PM
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I know, which is why I want to get out of this situation as soon as possible. As for my grades, as I said, they used to be very good, consistently good, but this year just fucked me over. First of all, the whole pandemic thing, my mother nearly died earlier this year, my klinefelter diagnoses came as a hit(idk why, I knew I was physically different, but having a whole disorder with it and knowing I'd never naturally produce testosterone was just such a hit to me) and now I got the whole thing wi…
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 09:44 PM
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Yes she did, and me and my sister are complaining about it non-stop, but she won't listen. But I can't let my mom lay there whilst being ill, you know? Yes, we've both done horrible things to each other, but I almost feel guilt. As for my sister, last time I heard she's applying for trade school, so hopefully that'll end well. As for me, well, at first I wanted to go to the us on a scholarship, but my grades went from all a+ to all f, and I wish I was exaggerating there. My best grade is a D. Su…
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 08:25 PM
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I tried to, many many times, but it never leads to anything. Even my sister started complaining about him, and my mother said she was going to talk to him about it, and wether she actually did that or not, nothing changed. She says it's something with that he has ptsd and his ex-wife and him had a brutal divorce(many years ago, I don't see the big deal), he and his son are fighting, blah blah blah, all excuses to me. I don't want to dismiss his problems, but they aren't a reason to do absolutely…
/r/MGTOW224/04/21 08:09 PM
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>:( we were once a thriving beer country, alright? We still are in certain communities... ....and ofcourse feminists had to get a piece of the pie too...
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 08:10 AM
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Wait, there's 2 kinds of beer, which are craft beer and... factory beer(?) is the opposite I guess? What's the difference between the two? Is factory beer the one you buy in the supermarket and craft beer you make at home? How? How the hell do you have enough space to brew beer at home? If that's the definition of "craft beer", no, this beer ain't craft beer, they have their own factory, actually. I would link their website so you could see, but I'm not littering this sub with trash
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 08:03 AM
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-Studying biology -video games -walking outside -learning French -vintage stuff -clothing
/r/MGTOW31/03/21 05:53 PM
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I kinda agree with you, although I can't live without the internet. I use it too much to look up research stuff, download books and ofcourse gaming stuff on the internet. It is however fucking absurd that I'd have to submit your ID to access these things. Youtube already started locking video's unless you submit a copy of your ID card. Hell no I'm not giving my ID card to google, or any other big tech company
/r/MGTOW29/03/21 03:48 PM
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You would have to find a comment that has a link to it if you want join Ironically enough, I got into here via link in a feminist post complaining about mgtow. Only good thing they ever did for me
/r/MGTOW15/03/21 01:18 PM
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To be fair, they could easily be mistaken for some post-wall woman
/r/MGTOW13/03/21 11:31 PM
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... and get ready to date them straight out of prison
/r/MGTOW07/03/21 05:53 PM
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The only reason I know is because you just told me, so I don't care so much about it
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 10:18 PM
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Sure, instead of teaching women to get into healthy relationships and take care of a family, why not encourage them by paying them to make it worse?
/r/MGTOW04/03/21 08:38 AM
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And they usually do it with several men at the same time too....
/r/MGTOW03/03/21 06:07 PM
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Although that isn't entirely accurate since the church doesn't pay taxes and thus have more money left, you're still right, women are money hungry, and instead of working for it, they steal it from the honest working men. And I can know, because I am *that one* boy that has to give at least half my salary to my mom every month, and no way of escaping until I'm 18. No, I don't want to talk about it or go into depth about it, but still, big fml moment...
/r/MGTOW27/02/21 10:55 AM
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Sure is!
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 09:37 PM
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He would immediatly be diagnosed with narcissistic personalilty disorder and be told to "check his male privilige", most likely
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 09:36 PM
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In reality - nope. Low T sucks a lot. As someone with klinefelter, can confirm, sucks a lot to have none of it. Hope to start testo therapy in December, at least that's what the doctors keep telling me, not sure how much I should believe of it.... So if you're a man who produces testosterone naturally... exploit it to hell and keep it as high as possible, it's for your own wellbeing
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 02:47 PM
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Regarding diseases, here in the netherlands all legal prostitutes are tested in between clients, or at least that's what I heard, I have no experience with them. And all legal prostitutes only give service if you wear a condom, and even though some will let you fuck them raw for 50,- extra, it is very adviced against. Just don't stick your dick in crazy, and prostitutes are always better imo, you just pay them money once for the fucking, no extra date money or child support, just 60,- or somethi…
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 02:44 PM
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You get it brother! At least prostitutes are honest about what they're doing, + they won't sue you for child support
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 02:36 PM
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Ah okay. Still don't really have a strong opinion on it, I guess I could care less since I'm not american, but I kinda understand what it is/what it does, thanks!
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 02:20 PM
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Sorry, I'm not american so I don't understand what electoral college is, so what is it and is it good or bad and should it be abolished or not? Can you explain?
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 02:01 PM
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I wish I could but no. I did some research on the situation, and what my mom is doing is *technically* legal. To sum it up, yes, a parent can take their child's money(or a part of it) if, and only if, 1. the parent uses it for future savings or needs it to maintain the family and 2. the child gave consent. Now, both are very hard to prove, since the consent can just be a verbal yes or no in private. Not that my mom ever asked for consent, but again, on legal level very hard to prove, it's a he s…
/r/MGTOW26/02/21 01:01 PM
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I heard about the prison labour thing yes, it sounds pretty bad. And no, I don't know anything about rome or the roman era, but it doesn't sound to pleasent either... And yes, every big empire used slaves. Not even necessarily black ones, just the ones that were available, like how the romans used poor white people as slaves. And it's bad that it's still a thing nowadays, especially with prison labour, but at least it's not as bad as it used to be, I think at least, I don't know much about the t…
/r/MGTOW22/02/21 11:45 PM
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Hmm... sadly most likely. Let's repeat the roaring 20's without rascism then! And without the economic crisis!
/r/MGTOW22/02/21 05:21 PM
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I dropped out of history class in sophomore year, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but wasn't slavery abolished in the 1800's, and by the time of the roaring 20's it didn't really exist anymore?
/r/MGTOW22/02/21 03:50 PM
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See, this is why I like the vintages era's so much
/r/MGTOW22/02/21 10:04 AM
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Yes, I heard that testo changes your body, as well as your mind. I'll basically go through puberty, but at a later age. I'll see how it goes. Until then, I'll just continue doing what I'm doing, doing the stuff I love <3
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 08:50 PM
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The doctor said I could get testosterone injections in December. I too wonder why so late, but I'd rather not question it too much and go with it. I'd probably have to take those shots the rest of my life, and I think they're gonna be painful too, they're placed in either your thigh or upper leg, not the ideal spot for an injection imo... Interesting condition Yeah maybe. I can understand how it's fascinating that someone can be both male and female at the same time, sort of, at least, in the ch…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 08:34 PM
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YES YES YES! We sure will brother, we sure will...
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 02:13 PM
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You're 16 and you have to carry a bunch of "grown-ups" who can't even take care of themselves. You should be proud of yourself I know. Heck, a few years back the school forced me to go to the health coach each week for my "mental health" because they saw it wasn't working. I told her too about the money situation, and she was like "well, you're really just paying your own food, or pretend it's rent or something. See it as supporting your mother"... Well, if I pay for my food, I at least want to …
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:28 PM
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it is critical to start learning as much mathematics as possible now, especially algebra, analysis, and probability. Another skill to start developing in anticipation of a PhD is computer programming Ladies and gentlemen, here we have it: The exact reasons I didn't want to study quantum mechanics or thereotical physics anymore, because I don't like math and I'm not good at it and I hate computer programming and am even worse at it than math. Sure, when I study math myself it goes alright. Fuck, …
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:13 PM
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I think that dying your hair unnatural colours is unacceptable, no matter your gender, age etc. Sure, maybe dyeing it a natural color, let's say you want black hair instead of blonde, or vice versa, I don't mind, at least it look normal. Maybe a few strokes colored or partly dyed, maybe, if it looks good with your hair. But dyeing your whole hair a whacky colour, so that there is no natural colour left? Nah bro, that's when you're taking it too far imo... And yes, if my mother has thaught me any…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:00 PM
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Well, at least your mom used a verbal phrase, to which you can reply whatever you want. The fuck are you gonna say against a whistle? Not interact to it, maybe, but then she'll get angry, storm into my room and start yelling and usually fights between us break out then, and I want to prevent that on all costs you know? And yes, it's sad that my mom, alongside most women nowadays, act this way, and that's supposed to be "trying their best" or in a single mom's case "my kids are my world"... more …
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:57 PM
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I suppose that's a "good side" about this... but for the rest? Nah. For me, one euro given to women is one euro wasted. And the worst part is, I seem to be thinking in price tags more and more. Like, I think in euro's wasted, instead of earned. Since my mom insists on only drinking cola from coca cola cans instead of the supermarket's own brand. The difference in euro's is 2,50,-. Not much if it was a one time thing, but it's the only thing she drinks besides one glass of water or milk every now…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:51 PM
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"she is a feminist" I don't know pal. I know that the dyed hair should be a dead giveaway, but hear me out. She is a Trump supporter, anti joe biden, her boyfriend(my stepdad) is the same but even more extreme. She always votes for the Dutch equivelant of Trump. My biological father was a huge confederate supporter, had the flag stitched onto his jacket too, and she dated him for a couple years. Basically it was my birth that caused their breakup. But still, does that sound very feminist to you?…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:42 PM
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Well, luckily you don't need citizenship to study there, just a visa. I'll just keep my Dutch citizenship for DUO study finance, and then maybe after I graduate go for citizenship. Although I'm sure, because if you're not from an English speaking country, such as Great-Britain, Australia, etc I believe you need to take the TOEFL to apply for citizenship, if you're score if high enough, and I don't know if I want that because it takes lots of money to take it and what if I fail, you know? The TOE…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:37 PM
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Hey, I'm a biology student, don't think I know how to recognize toxic behavior in mammals? Also I've seen that text in multiple formats and with different pictures and captions.... and it never fails to get a quick laugh from me, it's just so true
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:29 PM
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My half sister has had dyed red hair for a long time now. Not the natural ginger color, I'm talking feminist red. The few times I went outside with her, I didn't mind because she either wore a hat because of the cold or people would just brush it off like "she's just a child" or something like that. Plus, it doesn't even look that bad in terms of hair health. However with my mom and her friend, both women who are far beyond the wall, with saggy and wrinkly skin, and that typical "old woman" thin…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:24 PM
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What do you think I´m planning to do as soon as I am an adult and have enough money?
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:42 AM
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it´a not that I think it´s ¨soulless¨ or ¨inhumane¨ or whatever, it´s just not worth my time. It´s sad that it´s impossible, but I´ve got better stuff to do, you know?
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:41 AM
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Nice to know, and I'll keep going for it. I hope to get at least my undergraduate in biophysics, and maybe even Ph.D in biophysics, if that's a think, otherwise in biology. Nice to know another mgtow with an interest for biology!
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 01:12 AM
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I'll stand my ground for every euro she tries to take on top of half my salary she already gets! Just do your thing <3 Thanks! <3 I will continue studying for a better education and my love for biology!
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:40 AM
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Her behaviour is not really normal! As if I didn't figure that out myself already.... I feel with you, stay strong bro Thanks! :)
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:38 AM
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Oh never heard of that, had to google it. You are good, man, no worries! Yeah, it's usually described as 100% male on the outside(just smaller than average Male parts), and 50%male 50%female on the inside (47xxy instead of regular 46xy). Because my body doesn't produce testosterone, I look like a 12 year old, but because I do all the stuff a 16yo would do (i.e nobody thinks a 12 years old is walking home at 11pm from their 5 hour workshift) so most people just assume I'm a lesbian. At this point…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:36 AM
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be anything you want (doctor, etc.) I actually want to study biophysics and intend to get a Ph.D in biology, or biophysics if that's a thing. or you can join the military My family's been pushing me to join the navy because of my interest for ships and sea, and I originally wanted to become a nautical captain. Thing is, both navy and captain require a physical exam, and because of klinefelters I likely won't pass, +I believe you can't get enlisted at all if you have known klinefelters. Just be c…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:29 AM
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900,-!?!? How? I earn let's say 90,- approximatly a month, rounded up.(it varies from 70 to 110 a month, depends on my hours.) so that means I get 45,- for myself. I used to earn alot more like 150,- because I worked on Sunday and working on Sunday gives double pay, but from 16 years old on getting double pay is considered a "special privilige"... ffs I can understand but it's really inconvient for me. Alas, I can't change it and just gotta live with it. Anyway, approximatly 45,- for myself each…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:12 AM
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I know, I get those comments alot, but at least you guys don't rub it in how few I can do on my age despite my maturity. My schools knows I'm mentally fucked up, so my mentrix required I speak to her once a week for while, so I sat there almost in tears, telling her how bad I felt at home at vaguely explained my plan to run away(back then I though I could trust my school) and part of it was to hop on a train to another city(or take an international train to France is what I'd prefer, but I decid…
/r/MGTOW21/02/21 12:05 AM
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I couldn't handly wearing the pack on my belly or taille, so I wore it one my hip, directly on my skin, with my underwear over that, pants over that, thightened with a belt. It left a mark where it has been sitting for weeks. However I've also discovered when I just do the belt of the pack a bit looser, wearing it on my belly becomes my endureable, so I migth start doing that. And yes, I will continue as I am doing right now!
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:57 PM
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Yes, I keep my cash into a fanny pack I wore 24/7 under my clothes, except the last few days because the pack gave me skin rash, but I keep it stashed away in the back of my desk drawer, that's otherwise stashed with stuff like old birthday cards and other trash. I'm still paranoid about it, because I keep like 200,- in it, but I used to have one of those tiny walmart quality "portable" safes I kept my cash in, and I too kept that safe stashed into some clothes drawer. Somehow, both the safe and…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:39 PM
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Also, I'm glad you got the phrase "couldn't care less" right I know, I saw someone on one of the mgtow subreddits say that women always dye their hair for attention, so whenever they dyed it, act as if you always would, so they can't get pleasure out of stealing men's attention, especially if they ask "notice anything different?". Props to that dude, he's the reason I could stay quite mundane in this situation. Are you not from the US? Well, not yet :). I plan on going to the us through getting …
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:34 PM
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Nope, he is not legally my father, so I can't go with him, and he would never allowed to come with me, he would want me to "safely stay with me mother", as he told me. And even he did approve of it, I can't get a US visa because of corona bullshit...
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:28 PM
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Yes, it mainly is. And I think she does it to other people so they sympathise with her. The reason she's nasty to me is because she knows I can't just walk out on her because I'm legally dependant on her, while her friends can just walk away from her, so she has to be nice to them to keep them. Heck, as a child my mom used to tell me "she can't have any friends over ever because of me", referring to the fact that I have anger issues and and urge to show those anger issues too(I used to, at least…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:27 PM
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Thanks :) About the scholarship, I'm not sure yet. I'm struggling whether to use fafsa or duo for financial aid, I need to work my grades up and cross my fingers finals don't get cancelled due to corona again, and I need to see what my school thinks of it, because they are the ones that usually check out scholarships available to you. I know you can do it independly too, but I don't know how that works and that gets my anxious, and I can't ask how it works if you do it independly because I don't…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:23 PM
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Man, I wish I could. But my mom has legal authority over me, and she milks that advantage out whenever and whereever she can. Heck, we even got into physical fights whenever I tried to show to slightest bit of power over her. They are not allowed to waste your money. I know, but according to the law, a parent can take their child's money to save it up for later, but it's very difficult to prove wether that's happening or not. +the child must gave consent, but this is also very hard to prove. It'…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:17 PM
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all the money wasted on a blue pilled consumer bullshit before that. I would rather have this than what's happening to me. Because I have no choice but to give my money to my mom. If I had wasted it on simp stuff, I only got myself to blame. I'm probably hugely underestimating things and both shouldn't have happened, but that's kinda the feeling everytime I read this kind of stuff. Glad to see you got out of you bad situation, hope you're doing okay now?
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:08 PM
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Thanks :) Yes, I am studying everyday to get a scholarship to america so I can leave the country so my mom can never reach out to me again. And I actually found pleasure in studying too, so if everything goes right and things work in my favor for once, this could work out
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:06 PM
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You'll soon be beyond it, probably looking out the window of an airplane My dream! I'm studying my ass off to get a scholarship to america, I'd love to go to MIT, or at least study on the east coast.(yeah yeah I know it's a liberal area there, leave me alone). Actually, I started studying so much I actually began to like it. Not the school studying, I mean self study. You can (illegally) download practically every textbook for every subject in pdf form, and study that, and it helps alot with the…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 11:04 PM
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Even though I gotta admit they're all hilarious, I don't want my family to come after me more then they already do. And about the lesbian thing, they're really pro lesbian, so I'll probably just embarras myself. I mean, that friend my mom bought hairdye for has a lesbian sister and a younger lesbian cousin, and I always get compared to her. I have klinefelter and thus look a bit more feminine, but I always hear "wow, you look so much like my counsin. Ya know, that lesbian one, that lovely girl".…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:59 PM
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You can take 50 % of your money to treat yourself and save 50 %, so you treat yourself for saving too, or can go to an ever stricter approach with up to 90 %, .... savings! I wish I could, but my mom takes 55% of my salary for "maintaining me"(buying food clothes etc). 55%, such a specific number? Yes, it used to be 50%, but I started to annoy my mom so much asked for 100% so she "raised it". It's still far beyond my expectations tho. And from the 55% I get, I withdraw everything in cash and sto…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:56 PM
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Her “I know that’s how much it fits me” is a false, insecure arrogance.That’s her ego’s protection to not getting the “needed” attention from you. I know, but I just can't stand a arrogant female voice, or a sarcastic voice. It's just makes me angry and boils me internally. Another sound I just can't stand is my mom's whistling whenever she wants my attention but "I am wearing that gaming headset again so I can't hear her". It's long and lound, and it's high and low at the same type. Very typica…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:48 PM
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Being born to a mother is kinda unavoidable Ha, you clearly haven't heard of trannies yet? For real though, yes, it's kind of unavoidable, but there's a huge difference in being born into a (semi) normal family with 2 parents and a middle class income and being born to a single mom with a low income. Probably quite a few guys here had problems with their mothers I know, it's why I came here in the first place :). When I first encountered mgtow by accident, I was quite skeptical because of the am…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:40 PM
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I'd love to, but don't want to. Wanna know why? Because emancipation is only possible if the parent breaks the law regarding parent-child relation laws and technically, very technically speaking, she is not doing that. I'm not gonna go into depth, but if she wasn't a single mom in need of financial help, she'd be breaking the law. And(I'm sorry I'm turning this into a rant post/comment) another bad thing about the cuck laws here, is that there would be a possibility to get emancipation without m…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:36 PM
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So you are paying up front, for a better potential life. Yeah, I know, I usually think about that myself too. I'll never become a man maid for a girlfriend or wife but the thing is.... I shouldn't. I shouldn't have to get abused for years to get that. And that the fact that the whole marriage thing is one big fairytale is pretty upsetting too. I'd love to get a pretty girl and live with her the rest of my life, have a house, a family, a life together. That's not possible anymore in today's socie…
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:30 PM
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Wish I didn't have to say this, but I don't doubt for a second you have. And them looking that way isn't even the worst part. The worst part is how much people accept and normalize it
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:11 PM
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I know, I dream about it all the time and I work really hard everyday to reach it, either by working a job or by studying my ass off for a scholarship so I can leave the country too, so there's no way she can ever reach me again
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:05 PM
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Staying there will damage you beyond repair. It already has :) If this happened few generations back, the boy would have the authority to teach his bitch mother how things are ought to be Wish I could do this, but I didn't want to emberrass myself even more in front of the whole family, especially since all women in the household have dyed hair now, and my stepdad said "they're probably doing it for attention, so what, what's your problem?", so they'd all jump on me if I commented something bad …
/r/MGTOW20/02/21 10:04 PM
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you don't want to lose all your money to some woman that doesn't give a fuck about you in the first place
/r/MGTOW218/02/21 06:39 PM
3

Sounds like something my stepdad could become victim of. My mom has been really nice to him(unlike to me) and whenever I try to talk to him about how she really is, he keeps saying stuff like "your mom loves you" "she is a honest and loving person" "it isn't her fault she became a single mom" etc. It really hurts to see it happening, but I decided to leave it for what it is, since some men just can't be helped. It's sad that women can get away with this because not only are they expected to do s…
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 02:45 PM
1

Welcome to clown world my friend, welcome to clown world...
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 08:37 AM
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Ofcourse they do more then they say because they're ashamed to admit it, so they just water it down when they post it on the internet to seek justification
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 07:52 AM
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watching how their single mother acts while growing up Yupppp, that's the main thing that did it for me. And also watching how she treats my now stepdad. I've tried to talk to him about it, but he just doesn't see it, because, those are his words not mine "your mom is a loving person, she's different from others, I'm sure she loves you and just know that it isn't her fault she's a single mom"... Sorry, I love my stepdad and all, he's been more of a parent to me then that bitch that calls herself…
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 07:51 AM
1

You mean my friends in real life? Then I might have to start off I don't have that many friends anymore since I switched classes, and haven't bothered to make new friends there. The ones I still have, I'd say they're in between(apperantly that's called purplepill). Like, they agree that OF, simps, e-girls etc. is ridicilious, but they think it's "very extreme" for me to say I would never date a woman or that I think every women(yes, every single one of them) have something problemetic going on; …
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 07:44 AM
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Damn, the average is 18-24? Guess I'm early then, I'm 16, but I've even seen 14yo's in mgtow circles. That being said, yes every woman, every single one of them, comes with some sort of emotional baggage you gotta solve. And they always search for a personal simp so she can do whatever the fuck she wants without repercussion whilst being provided for 24/7. Women are the most irresponsible creatures ever
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 09:05 PM
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they show "guilt" to guilttrip you. "oh, I am so sorry, and sdo hurt by it" to make you feel sorry for them and become their personal simp. Don't fall for guilttripping. I learned the hard way with my single mom; even now, every time she acts sad to get me to do something, I have to mumble to myself "calm down, it's all guilttripping" because let's get real, that's all women handle stuff. It's all guilttripping Oh and also, in this "modern, progressive society", they don't even have to feel sham…
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 07:59 PM
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And both would qualify her as a worthless slut in my opinion. I'm not one of those extreme conservatives that scream "have some modesty" at everything, but if you're willing to pose yourself nude on the internet, even if it's just nude posing, you can't expect anybody to take you serious in the future, especially in a professional career
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 07:57 PM
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Props to that mgtow brother, he gets it!
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 07:55 PM
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Knowing how most modern men are, he wouldn't leave her if she told him about the sex work experience on the first date; he probably would've said something how brave and empowering it was what she did. Yes, there are actual people like that out there. Also, "love bombing"? Never heard of it, but sounds like yet another female manipulation tactic
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 07:18 PM
1

The main difference is that socialism can be practiced through a democratic state, meanwhile communism is practiced through a totalitarian state. The thing is though, if socialism isn't strictly maintained, it easily evolves into communism, because for some reason people just crave power. I've also heard the phrase "in communism, nobody can be poor and nobody can be rich, in socialism, everybody can be rich, but nodbody can be poor". I'll leave it to you to judge if that's how it works in realit…
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 08:21 AM
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I'm not so sure about the whole "the US is going commie" thing, as many people nowadays can't really tell the difference between socialism and communism. That being said though, as far as I know in the US the states has lots of say in their system, look at the difference between california and texas, the most liberal and conservative state I can think of right now. About the language things, yes I'm still doubting; I already speak English and Dutch, so I'm bilingual. Things is, Dutch isn't spoke…
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 11:04 AM
2

Tell me about it. I once had a walmart quality mini safe I had 450,- in it. I watched it all the time, or at least the place I stashed it. One day, I needed it, so I reached for it, but it wasn't there. "someone" who "cleaned" my room that morning had taken something away, hm? She didn't even take the key, she just wanted to put me through the torture of losing several hundred euro's... Ever since then I literally wore it 24/7. Probably unneccesary, but living with women for 16 years, especially…
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 08:54 AM
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I mean, it's literally in the title, she is a single mom, and has been since the breakup between my mom and my half-sister's father. She might have a boyfriend now, but she will still act like a single mom in some ways. My stepdad's visa is also about to expire so he has to go back to the states, and then she will be full on single mom again.... You are the betabux paypig Stawph it, it wasn't even my choice, okay? Yes she takes half my salary for god knows what purposes, and it's even legally ac…
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 08:45 AM
1

I used to want to go to MIT, because they do lots of science stuff, which is what I want to study(biophysics, biology, bioscience, whatever name they have for it. However, with certain circumstances, such as the shock of getting diagnosed with klinefelter(lets just say I wasn't too happy with it) and because of corona, I went from a 3.2gpa to I think a 2.5gpa. I used to have 6 A's(out of 9 subjects), now I have 5 F's(out of 8 subjects)... so I kinda gave up on the whole think, but I'm willing to…
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 08:33 AM
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I currently stash the money all my money in a fannypack I hide under my clothes and I wear it 24/7. However yesterday my mom made me try on some pants in front of her since I'm getting all my stepfather's spare jeans he can't take back to the states. My mom then asked "what is that thing on your hips" (I wear it to the side). I then quickly ran to my room claiming I had to go to the toilet, stashed the fanny pack in my desk drawer and went back and just said she "saw nothing" or had probably mis…
/r/MGTOW10/02/21 08:23 AM
1

You're right, but I want to study biology/science, and then Latin can be a very important language, as well as Russian, that's why I'm not sure which one I want to do
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 10:22 PM
2

It feels incredibly weird to hear my mom being called a "thot" haha, but you're probably right, life's way better without her, or any woman for that matter. Also, "thot tax"? Gotta remember that one. It's sad she can legally take my money, so I just gotta save up all I can. One day I'll live without her, or any woman's influence. But most important, without my mom's
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 09:04 PM
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sideeffects etc, give your body time to adjust to it Isn't the testo just gonna give me my "normal" puberty because I don't go through it naturally? My doctor never mentioned any side effects of it, apart from normal puberty stuff like voice cracks, rapid hair growth, etc. I believe they put the shot in your thigh or upper leg, which isn't the best spot for a shot imo, but you gotta do what you gotta do. And yes, I am afraid health can be limiting for me, but not on mental/intelligence level I t…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 08:26 PM
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Categorize targets that you have identified from most important to not important I kinda tried doing that in the post. First comes my study stuff, tied with money, then the testo stuff(health), then general health, then language learning. I'd say that's a pretty good order. Dont overdo it, you are ill (a bit) If you're talking about my klinefelter, yes that's true. I get tired very quickly and have general low energy levels as a result of it. However, if I can start taking testo(which is hopeful…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 07:23 PM
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Yeah, I know, it sucks. It's why I hate it so much when single moms say "my kids are my world".... they don't mean it. They say that as a way to tell people they don't need a man, because they got their kids. Ever wondered how that works out? It's because they use their children, usually their sons as partners. I work a job while she doesn't, and she still takes half my salary. I usually do groceries, I actively go to school, I take care of her when she's sick, etc. "Huh, but don't women usually…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 04:42 PM
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No it is not. My biological dad left when I was 3-ish and cut all ties, so I can't search for contact with him. I've been begging my stepdad to take me back to the states with him, as he owns real estate there and has to return soon since his visa is about to expire, but that's not possible due to certain laws. My mom wants to migrate to the us and live with him, or my stepdad wants to get a "more pernament" visa and live with us here once he's back from the us. I'll just watch it all play out f…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 04:33 PM
2

It clearly isn't normal in the us to get an internship as a minor. Here it is actually, and is usually even expected, by both the high school and future college. Unless the story my mentor, the vice principle, and the dean told me are 100% bullshit (which I would immediatly believe if someone shows the tiniest bit of counter evidence). But still. Is it really that abnormal to have internships as a minor in the us?
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 04:02 PM
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how do you mean it's early? In my country it's normal for 16 year old to have internships, it's even excpected. I assume the same thing for entry level jobs. If you're talking about full time jobs, yeah then you're right, but for entry level or internships, I don't think so
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 03:48 PM
1

Minors can work real jobs I know, because I worked in retail since I was 14. Thing is, I think stacking boxes on top of shelves(my retail job) is a bit different from let's say being a lab assistent. And yes, you need approval from the school, for internhips at least, not for jobs. That's another thing I just realized, for an internships, your parents have to sign, for an (entry level) job not. I will look on how to get into one of those "entry level jobs". Maybe I'll talk to the vice principle …
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 03:40 PM
1

Ah okay, I sorta get it. What I seem to get from it is that those are "real" jobs meanwhile internships are well, internships, which you can get as a minor, meanwhile I doubt there are entry level jobs for minors, although that probably differs from country to country, so I'll look into it further!
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 03:30 PM
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I'm not in the US, I live in the netherlands, but even here companies aren't legally obliged to pay you, they can pay you below minimum wage or usually nothing if they want to, it's really unfair... What is an entry level though? Never heard of it, even tried translating to dutch but none of the words seem familiar. I even tried browsing through some job finding websites to find anything like it, but nothing shows up. So yeah what is this "entry level" thing? Is it like an internship where they'…
/r/MGTOW09/02/21 03:23 PM
1

as we all know, women face no repercussions for the future, so this wouldn't have any effect. And since today I'm not even allowed to talk to my half-sister, because we were "too energetic" together. I also got another private oppurtinity to talk alone to my stepdad today and I explained it a little, and he literally said that as soon as he returns to the U.S, things will get better. I feel so bad for him that he thinks this is his fault... because you guessed it, mom is mad at him too... For th…
/r/MGTOW05/02/21 09:39 PM
2

I might not, no, but I still find it weird how my mom doesn't allow me to talk to him at all, even about non serious stuff like idk, tv-shows, cars/motorcycles, joking around, etc. If it even gets a bit "too excited" as she states, she immediatly asks me "what're you talking about now"? in dutch, the language my stepdad doesn't speak. Like, why am I not allowed to talk to the people I live with? And as I said, if I'm gonna take legal action, I'm only gonna do that once I'm >18 so I'm not depende…
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 10:10 PM
1

places which don't even require marriage let alone kids for alimony payments Excuse me, what? Isn't alimony meant so that the woman can continue to afford stuff for the kids? How are kids not a requirement for alimony payment then? Is it so that the woman can "afford" herself? Because in that case she needs to grow the fuck up, be a "strong, independent woman" and earn some fucking money. You won't even realise when you've become a man Actually, I'm glad that's kind of a "background progress". N…
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 07:53 PM
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I tried talking to my sister because she clearly dislikes and dissapproves of what my mom does, but as soon as I sat down with her in private she was all like "no it's okay, I dont mind it,"etc. As of right now her father has custody over her, and she is allowed here every other weekend and wednesday. However, I heard that they started a new court case and then my mom might get full custody of her. I don't know, I'm not sure who should get custody and I don't care either, I want to be left out o…
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 07:41 PM
1

Not the first time you come there, obviously, but they will eventually ask for family information. I think I'm better off calling one of those organization over the phone, anomynous
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 06:19 PM
1

Hmmm... I don't trust these anymore due to bad experiences with them in the most, and they tend to take single mother's side too, like "she is a single mom, she doing her best/having it hard herself/needs your help etc". And a general bad experience with them too
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 02:55 PM
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Not if you don't have kids. And as I said, alimony sucks and should definitly be lower and made more fair towards men, but at least you will no longer live under the women's regime, which currently is the most important thing to me to escape
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 02:54 PM
1

Yes, but it's not legal to take your kid's salary and do anything else with it other then saving it up for them, so buying groceries from it is not allowed. The exception for this is when the child gave explicit consent to the parent to do that. However, my mom never asked or even mentioned doing that, so no way I could've given consent. I don't care if she has to use the money to take care of the household. No long emotional explanation needed, just something like "yeah we are short on money, c…
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 02:52 PM
1

Yeah well, there is no concrete evidence she is stealing it, it's more that she refuses to prove she is using it for the right thing. My bio dad left me when I was young and there is no way I can contact him. My stepdad wants to get a job here too, but 1. he doesn't speak Dutch and 2. He needs a dutch visa for that and my mom wants to get him that instead of getting it himself so he has to wait for that. He doesn't say anything about it too mom, I don't know why. And it's not entirely his fault …
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 02:48 PM
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Thanks, I will continue to study, it´s my only option to ever get out, And also the best in general
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 10:45 AM
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Sure will! For as it looks right now in terms of family, my stepdad wants to apply for a dutch visa (or well, my mom is doing it for him, don´t know the reason why he can´t/ doesn´t want to do it himself) and then he wants to marry my mom, or at least he told me that in private. He then wants to legally adopt me and my half-sister(if the current court case goes ¨right¨ and her bio dad loses custody of her). Then, depending on legal curcimstances, he wants to move back into his house in the US wi…
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 10:13 AM
1

Damn, I be learning stuff here, didn´t know they had really that much difference in meaning
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 10:07 AM
1

All these people recommending here to find an adult I trust I can do this with as if that wouldn't get you reported to authorities in a negative way. What country y'all live in where that kind of stuff is normal? And I'm saving my half of the salary in cash in case she ever decides to freeze my bank account
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 08:22 AM
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Not with covid, unless I start doing illegal stuff, which I don't want. I also have no contacts to get such job
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 08:17 AM
1

I'm definitly making a plan to get away. Also, chill that your mom didn't knew how much you were supposed to get. Salary also got paid in cash back then(sorry if I'm overestimating your age and this isn't true in your case). My mom demanded to see my payslips for "tax reasons" and as soon as my grandpa, the person who does all the family finance, started pressuring me into it too, I finally gave in. Not the best moment I had...
/r/MGTOW02/02/21 12:48 AM
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Nice, I think. There should be corona precautions, but what's really the point of having a curfew when nobody is outside anyway, or with your gym example. Precaution is good, but you can go to far imo
/r/MGTOW202/02/21 12:00 AM
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I FUCKING KNOW, RIGHT? Even though gyms are completely closed here, the busiest time is between 3pm and 6pm, shouldn't we try to limit that if they want something to do against corona, instead of having a curfew at a time were people usually aren't outside anyway. Also I hope your state is out of lockdown now?
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 11:17 PM
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Well I mean, a bat started it No but for real, I have no idea why that is, the curfew is from 9pm-4:30am. The prime minister said it is to limit the "night life", as if closing all bars, clubs etc didn't do that. Well, you can't break orders from the prime minister, or you'll get a 95,- fine if you get caught outside after 9pm
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 11:10 PM
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No problem! I'm just really scared of losing my account or have something happening on it because lots of my saved posts contain information or knowledge I need later or read back later so I really can't risk being banned out of my account you know?
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 11:05 PM
1

That's true. I also have thoughts about contacting "het juridisch loket", a dutch organization that gives out free law advice over the phone. Pretty scared to do it though, don't know why
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:58 PM
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My biological dad cut all ties with us, no way in getting into contact with him. and yes, it is very dumb. Warning: mini rant ahead but you know what I hate even more about it? Okay, so let's say there is this 16 year old girl and she likes partying and hooking up with guys. Got it? Okay so one day, said girl gets pregnant at 16, and then decides to keep the baby and give birth to it. However, because she still a minor, it would be legally her parent's baby, and not hers. So then she can go to c…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:56 PM
1

Oh, she can probably live just fine without my money, but she uses it to get certain government bonusses or refunds. Don't ask me how that works or if it's true at all...
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:34 PM
1

ah, didn't see that. However, they probably do notify your parents and then I'm still fucked
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:29 PM
1

great idea, but as your comment clearly mentions, your parents need to give permission, and my mom's never gonna do that ofcourse
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:26 PM
1

my stepdad sadly isn't a Dutch citizen, so he can't do that. And I just googled it and santander exists in the Nethelands, but not for bank accouts, they only do loans here.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:23 PM
2

The accounts are linked, yes, but it works as following: Parents can access kid's account(if they're <18), but kids can't access their parent's account, unless I find out her login code, which I do not know, I'm not gonna stalk my mom to find out either. There is nothing I can do to disable it either
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:21 PM
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The age you are at, you're getting first hand experience of what being a man is really like - an ATM. being a man Listen, I hate to think about myself like this, but I'm still a boy. I'm an underage male, therefore I'm a boy. I'm already exploited and used like a grown man though, and that hurts, since I can't do the "positive" things about adulthood, such as having a seperate bank account from your parents Also, 730 days somehow sounds less then 2 years... so thanks for that! Edit: Also, if you…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:17 PM
1

YOU.CANT.OPEN.AN.INDEPENDENT.BANK.ACCOUNT.UNDER.18.IN.THE.NETHERLANDS!!!! that's the frustating part about this...
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:14 PM
2

Yes, there is a 9pm curfew in the Netherlands...
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 10:09 PM
1

Because she's been a single mom ever since my half-sister's biological dad left, and my stepdad has only lived with us for a few weeks, so he was obviously talking about before he lived with us. And he can't get a job because he doesn't speak Dutch, but still tries to do as much as possible. I call him my stepdad because I'm way more comfortable with him being my parent than that bitch that dares call herself my mother. That's how. Yes I think being a stepdad is cuck behaviour, but at least he's…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:03 PM
1

Wow, belgium is living the dream. Except I live pretty up north in the Netherlands, so it's a hell of a way to travel, and travelling that far away isn't allowed with covid, if you're allowed to travel at all. I'll keep it in mind for once covid is over, if that happens before I turn 18...
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 09:55 PM
0

How is she a single mom and you have a step-dad? Because she's been a single mom ever since my half-sister's biological dad left, and my stepdad has only lived with us for a few weeks, so he was obviously talking about before he lived with us. And he can't get a job because he doesn't speak Dutch, but still tries to do as much as possible. I call him my stepdad because I'm way more comfortable with him being my parent than that bitch that dares call herself my mother. Besides, none of this is hi…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 09:53 PM
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True, but as I said, why do only I have to pay rent? Why does my stepdad get to lay around all day and do nothing, while still consuming food, electricity, etc? And why should a child be paying for those things? and yes I want to move out asap, but that's not possible if she keeps taking my money, especially if all my other coworkers, including underage ones get to keep 100% of their salaries because they don't live with a deadbeat single mom who has to rely on exploiting their only son to keep …
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:33 PM
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I know, it's exactly why I don't want to quit my job, but it hurts so much seeing my money being stolen without being able to do anything about it... everytime I look at my bank account and see the transaction history I'm on the verge of crying because I hate that my money can be stolen like that. Mom's yelling and threathening doesn't help either...
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:31 PM
2

Not possible, it is some sort of bot that performs the transaction, and I can't walk faster to the atm then a bot performs an action. I tried everything, but there is nothing I can do to stop the transaction from happening. Most I can do is take the half I have and make sure she gets none of that either
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:25 PM
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That actually makes a lot of sense regarding human instinct. Sad to see many women going against that nowadays, thus forcing men to do it do
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:21 PM
2

For now, just think of it as you paying rent Rent? Fucking rent? Listen, there is no way rent is 50% of your salary, and even if it was I 1. deserve some fucking privacy from her and 2. would guarenteed get food. Besides, why doesn't my stepdad have to pay rent? Why doesn't he have to have a job? Because he doesn't speak dutch? because he might be forced back to the us soon? Well he still lives with us for the upcoming months, pay up bitch. I don't mean to give my stepdad a bad image, he's actua…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:17 PM
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I know, but what is she gonna do? you can't bring a minor into debt, that's illegal. You can't force them to work either, that'd be considered child labor. So yeah, what's she gonna do if I don't have a job anymore? I'll probably try to get an internship for job experience and for my cv, just for me personally
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:12 PM
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Is apprentice kind of like an internship? Never heard that word before and google translate says it means internship in Dutch, but we all know google translate can be a bit off. But if that's what it means, I've considered taking internships, but with corona they're really hard to get since everything is closed Talk to your employer and try and explain the situation Nope, not possible. You can't get paid in the Netherlands in any other form then direct bank deposit, no exceptions possible If you…
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 05:08 PM
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That's not good enough for them, they have to exploit and hurt males, or else it doesn't count for them
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 04:31 PM
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All Women Are Like That. and they really are, trust me
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 04:30 PM
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Don't want to get into trouble with reddit for "giving a user a bad image" or whatever rules they have. I heard about people getting their accounts getting suspended or banned for not censoring a person's (user)name whilst sharing posts this way because that counts as "making someone look bad"... it's cuckery if you ask me, but I don't want risking getting into trouble because I also use this account for important stuff other than mgtow
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 04:09 PM
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I'd say go post that answer to that post, although you'd probably get downvoted to hell by hundreds of feminists and cucks ofcourse, but still.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 02:56 PM
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*commitment to women is simply asking for cucking. It's good to have commitment for a career,study, hobby etc. just not to female relationships
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 02:12 PM
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Women lie to everyone, even themselves
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 02:11 PM
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No problem. Can totally understand if you want to get a quick good laugh from the cuck comments on there.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:42 PM
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Damn. I'm still 16 so I don't know a damn thing about datingapps, but that seems horrible. I imagine it's like you pay for a prostitute, but she then fucks everyone except you, who paid for her. Oh and she can divorce rape you if you're stupid enough to give into marriage. The true eSlut app is OnlyFans, but that's more of an eWhore app. Whore and slut are different things now? Hoe, whore, thot, slut etc are all the same thing in my opinion. And every women fits the catagory to a certain degree
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:40 PM
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Just go to that sub and look for it(it's a recent post, posted today) or google the title, I don't want my account suspended or have anything happened to it for "sharing someones information" or "making someone look bad" because that can happen. It's why I censored their name too. Wish I could share it but don't want to risk getting in trouble I think the comments are mostly positive though, from her perspective. It also has several hundred upvotes last time I checked. Cuck world
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:35 PM
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All checks against women's behavior have been discouraged or outright banned As I said, if there is no one to keep women in their place, or if no one is allowed to do it, stuff like this will happen. Women will get out of control, they simply have no self control unless someone tells them to do that, which isn't allowed anymore eSlut apps T- those are a thing? Like dating apps but for sluts? What has happened to this world?
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:32 PM
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Wow. Rude. Rude from her side towards the bf
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:26 PM
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very well said
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 01:16 PM
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I know, and I also think we all need occasional reminders of how it really is so we don´t fall for it, ever, or again, in some cases
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 12:51 PM
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True, but hasn´t society progressed past following such instincts? Just like men don´t beat each other up anymore for women, or impress them by spoiling them or you know.... cheating in general... it just has no place in a modern society. It´s just that women don´t give a fuck about such ¨societal rules¨ because they´re never held accountable for it. Nobody tells them to follow modern social rules and then stuff like this happens
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 12:50 PM
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what are you trying to say with that? What does that have to do with her cheating post?
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 12:46 PM
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At least we don´t harm anyone or destroy entire relationships in the process.
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 12:06 PM
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Didn´t even think that deep of it, I just read ¨urges to cheat¨ and knew it was wrong. Your point just adds more to that
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:11 AM
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You get it brother! AWALT
/r/MGTOW01/02/21 10:10 AM
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Damn, lucky you. As soon as the government revokes the curfew, I'll start doing night walks again too!
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 09:02 AM
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Damn... I think I'll just leave it for what it is than, although it still hurts alot seeing someone get fucked up by a single mom whilst not being able to do anything about it... but maybe it's for the better to not intervene
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 04:29 PM
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Can you please explain what this means? I was redpilled before I met him, and why would he want to my mom to stay with us if he's fully aware of how horrible she is. I guess it's a nice thing to do, but why?
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 11:12 AM
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I mean... I suppose you can be religious and mgtow/redpill at the same time? I just think it's kinda odd to use religion to justify stupid actions like getting into a marriage
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 02:50 AM
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Okay, I'll keep it in mind. I mean, there is at least one nice thing about him and that is is that he is also an insomniac so he rarely judges when I'm up at 2am watching tv and often just sits next to me then. Worst case he'll tell me to go back to bed soon if I have school the next day or something, but by far not as aggresive as my mom, luckily
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 02:48 AM
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I mean... I guess? It's just, it would hurt so much to see him get hurt by a single mom... Thing is, to all her friends, including romantic partners, she seems always really nice. It's as if she's only mean to me. Maybe because she knows that I can't walk away from her, yet. Either way, it seems to be going well between them, and he is actually really nice to me, it's just so... weird to have a fatherfigure, I'm just not used to it, at all. Maybe I should just watch this work out because well, t…
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 01:58 AM
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So ask questions that get him thinking about what marriage means, how do divorce courts work, and why men feel the need to marry at all... Well, I know that he is very religious, so he'll probably say something like "it's god's will" or something among those lines. When I asked him why he's so sure that what his ex-wife did to him won't happen again with my mother, he only replied:"your mom is different" and didn't elaborate any further than that. And about showing those movies to him... that co…
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 01:51 AM
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I know, I know. I thought he was "redpilled" because he clearly mentioned how women always lie to get what they want, cheat most of the time, hop over from boyfriend to boyfriend every other week. It seemed like he understood it all... but I don't think dating a single mom fits into that catagory, especially since he choose to go live with a single mom. I'm kinda glad he's here though because 1. mom's attention is now focussed on him, have fun with it (I'm just here to bring in money, still...) …
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 01:16 AM
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I mean, modern women can't even maintain themselves, let alone a family. Sad thing is, it's encouraged nowadays. Fuck, I remember searching on the internet for support groups for children of single moms... all I found was forums and groups for single mothers on how to deal with their children, how single moms can cope with certain stuff, nothing about their children... Glad I found you guys for that reason! It's still sad that women don't want a family life anymore... maybe for the better becaus…
/r/MGTOW30/01/21 12:25 AM
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Eh, I think I can cook and clean on my own, and I have klinefelters so I don't have a very high sex drive, so no need for that either. Anything outside of that that women can offer?(I don't think so!)
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 11:27 PM
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Well, I am mgtow but I have never been in a relation before and I'm still a teen.... because after living with my single mom for 16 years and two more to go, I've already decided I don't want any of that nasty stuff I hear on here to happen to me
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 11:18 PM
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I know, but seeing it happening right were you are can hurt though. That's why I wish I could do something about it, but I can't get through to him. He admits that all women cheat, lie, etc etc... but someway, somehow, he believes my mother is an exception to all of that because "she is an honest and loving person"(she isn't) and "it isn't her fault she is a single mom"... I get that you can make one mistake (aka me being born) but that exact mistake..... twice?(me and my half-sister are born to…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 11:16 PM
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Well, being emotionally and verbally abused by her for the past 5-6 years did that. Although I didn't really consider mgtow or redpill and the time because from the outside it seemed quite toxic for some reason, but as soon as my single mom started stealing money from me as soons as I got my first "real" job, I was done with it and when I saw lots of men on here who got used by women for money, so I knew that there were people here who I can relate to and get advice from. Ever since than I've be…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 11:11 PM
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No, it's just my mom has emotionally and verbally abused me as soon as I gained the ability to fully understand what was going on, so say age 8 or 9. I know she did that to my biological dad too to some extend but couldn't take any money from him because 1.they weren't married 2.he's not my father on my birth certificate. I don't know much about the relation between my mom and the biological father of my half-sister, but I know that it lead to a nasty breakup and court cases going on for 10 year…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 11:05 PM
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I- apart from the sexual things.... those are all things my mom does to me too? Like... what? She always says she cooks dinner but it's way to little to eat or I can't eat it for other reasons so I end up eating alone anyway... and they compliment you alot trying to get them to respect them... worked for me for while, not anymore really. I realized how my mom really is, and I just can't fall for it anymore, even if I wanted too
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:27 PM
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Yo wtf dude...
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:23 PM
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I replied the wrong way, didn't notice
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:23 PM
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Didn't see it from that perspective yet, and you're probably right... but I don't want to see anyone else suffering from my mom either, you know?
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:22 PM
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That is what I was wondering too... he clearly knows the female nature and is aware of women's intentions... but somehow my mom is an exception from all of that. It seems so.. so off for me
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:21 PM
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Uhm... what?
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 10:20 PM
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I know, I want to prevent him from doing that. I didn't have a choice in living with a single mom, but he does and I don't want him to willingly make the mistake I was forced to do, but I can't get through to him about how bad my mom is because he is 100% convinced she is somehow the only exception to AWALT. I just don't want him to ruin his life with a single mom
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 05:27 PM
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My biological dad left me when I was 3 too and never returned. My mom had some boyfriends in the meanwhile, even concieved a child(my half-sister) with one of them, but none of them stayed long. I was a child, and ofcourse I defended my mom's actions endlessly, just like how I see my sister doing now too, but same story; I tried talking to my sister, but she too is 100% convinced my mom does absolutely nothing wrong. they don't respect you for raising another mans orgasm. I have the same feeling…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 05:25 PM
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But don't want that to happen :( He already fell victim to two different women kicking him out in 1 year, now I don't want him to fall victim to a single mom, but I can't get through to him because he is 100% convinced my mom is somehow the only exception AWALT. She is not, let me tell you
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 05:18 PM
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I heard of purple pill before, but I don't know what it is, I only know the name. Is it like a mix between blue and redpill? And even then, it shouldn't be too hard to see that single moms are very damaging? Especially after your (step)son is ranting and nearly crying about the horrible treatment by his single mom at 3am with you? He just kept insisting being a single mom wasn't her choice and she loves me alot.... I know from experience she doesn't, sadly. It just seems it can't get through to …
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 04:59 PM
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Right now it looks like you aren't exactly receptive to it. Because I don't know the man that well yet, and it feels weird to suddenly have someone live with you 24/7 who doesn't speak your native language, and even though my typing is near perfect, my spoken english often contains flaws or unclear pronounciation. Than again, I notice my mom is calmer and doesn't get into that much aurguments with me anymore, and having 2 parental figures living with you feels normal, and it's nice to have a fel…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 04:55 PM
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Every now and then a man can get seduced with the fantasy of rescuing them I mean, he also said to me that he knew I grew without a father, and now he wants to take that role and make up for those fatherless years... I just don't know how to feel about calling him my "stepdad"... maybe that's just something I have to get used to, but not for now. Keep in mind he may have to learn the hard way. Isn't being kicked out by 2 women in year hard enough? He clearly sees how bad women are, he hold a who…
/r/MGTOW29/01/21 04:21 PM
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Lots of parents are fine with hiring teenagers or highschool students, so I don't see why my age is a problem. The gender part, wel... you might be right. I've seen advertisements for parents specifically asking for a teenage girl babysitter, absolutetely no boys. It's crazy, but I can try because babysitting is the most avaiblable gig. I can look into other stuff too, but people don't need it that much. But yeah it's weird that some people only want girls to watch their kids. It's sad that they…
/r/MGTOW28/01/21 06:46 PM
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I already got a notification the post was removed, although that notification is now removed. Censorship much? What is so harmful about this post? It is just pointing out hyprcritical behaviour. Also people silently downvoting posts/comments are fucking cowards. Don't be a coward and actually comment something if you have something to say about it
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 08:56 PM
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Sad... as I said, people should start doing this again. I'm gonna go deep into it because than this comment would be too long but there are tons of reasons why onlyfans is just plain wrong. These girls should be shamed and exposed... Thanks for trying to find it anyway.
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 08:35 PM
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I have no idea who/what you're talking about, but my guess is that they got shut down rather than willingly stopping. Sounds like a great idea though, should happen more often. Also expose them to their workplaces and employers, if they even have one...
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 08:07 PM
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I know, I know. As I said, the first time surely was "an accident" and "without consent" for sure, wasn't it?
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 06:53 PM
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Any other salary payment then direct deposit is illegal in the Netherlands, including physical paychecks. Also, taking parts of your child's salary is legal, as long as you can concretely prove you're actually saving the money, which my mom refuses to do. That being said, today my mom 1. Agreed to let me have 65% instead of 50% of my salary. I know, still not how it's supposed to be, but the fact my mom was willing to talk and negotiate was a miracle on it's own and 2. She showed my that a futur…
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 06:08 PM
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Uh hu, I think I'll stick with asking her if I can go to a "late night study club"... thing is, the Netherlands now also have a curfew of 9pm... this shit sucks man, to be stuck at home with a single mom in a lockdown
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 12:15 AM
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You have no idea how much I'd love to quit, but I need the money, even if it's just the half of it. And I can't reduce hours at my workplace, they have a minimum amount of hours you have to work in a week and I work exactly that. f all else fails, threaten to quit if she doesn't give you your rightfully earned money. If she refuses then tell her she can have something ridiculous like 5% You clearly don't know my mom... she'll never agree to that. I'm currently begging her to let me have 75% of i…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 10:48 PM
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Yeah, but all libraries and other public places are closed because in the Netherlands we have a complete lockdown. Actually, I'm not sure, I can't find anything on their website... maybe call customer service tomorrow... if not I think I found plenty of alternatives
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 10:42 PM
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Uh hu, I already got some ideas from the comments I can put to use. Voluntering won't work completely because most of them are shut down in lockdown, but I still have enough cover stories. And trust me, at this point I can lie so good it comes of as natural and true, it just slips of the tongue you know? Hey, if women can do it all the time, then so can I for certain reasons
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 06:17 PM
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You need to handle this just about exactly like a divorce That's kinda one of the worst parts about this. I always felt like my mom treated me like a grown man she could get money from and can use for chores. I know that men's purpose isn't that, but you know what I mean. Then she treats me like a dumb little boy when it comes to finances and finances only, probably so she can take money from me, or at least partly. Why am I not her "precious little boy" when I need actual counseling, love and o…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 04:40 PM
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I know. Thing is, I don't want to outright disrespect him because I see alot of awful single mom kid stereotypes and those often include that their kids don't respect their stepdads and well, I don't want to be a stereotypical single mom kid, I hope you understand why. Thing is, I may not know my biological father, but I don't think some random man can walk in and be like "yo waddup I date your mom, that means I'm your dad now". I mean, technically it does, and he even calls me is son now, but f…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 04:27 PM
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I plan to save it all up for 1. college 2.if I have to run away just incase 3. I'm not satisfied with the fact my mom shamelessly takes half my salary and since talking to her and discussing that subject is impossible, I decided to take right into my own hands and work without her knowing. If babysitting clients want to know if my parents are okay with this, I'll just lie. The thing with lying is, the more you do it, the more natural it comes off. I actually hate how good I am at it, because I d…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 04:14 PM
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I was thinking of just shoving my phone into her face, tell her to say exactly that into the microphone. If she does, she will have to give the money, if she doesn't, I know enough
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 03:02 PM
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I tried reporting to school because I didn't feel safe at home, so the vice principle made me sit in his office what felt for hours, then called my mom and he said "hello ms.[surname], are you mother of Steve? Well your son is crying in my office and says he doesn't feel safe at home, could you come to school to talk about it and pick your son up? My mom was then so angry at me I just kept my mounth shut forever about it. The vice principle also said that "if I see you crying at school another t…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 03:00 PM
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Definitly gonna try that next time. It probably won't because of technical stuff I don't understand, but at this point I'll try anything!
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 02:44 PM
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your father's parents) might very much WANT YOU My dad's father died when I was 1 or 2 from what I believe lung cancer, but he's dead... and if I have to believe my mom his mother isn't too much of a pleasure to be around with, and she might have died in the meanwhile too. (I am so so sorry if this can be considered doxxing, please don't report me!!!) And yes, my dad is probably very rich, he earns 100.000-160.000USD a year. He works in the oil industry, so saudi arabia is a goldmine for that. H…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 02:39 PM
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D&D is a great idea actually. She knows I'm interested in that kind of stuff, but doesn't know too much about it. It also would explain the weekly meetings! Be very careful where you stash the cash, she probably goes through your stuff once in a while. I don't want to go into depth about this story, but I once lost 450,- I stashed away safely, hidden under clothes, behind some boxes in a cabinet, and my mom somehow still found it. No 100% prove she has it, and she denies knowing about it too, bu…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 12:16 PM
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My brother you just gave something that might be one of the best ideas in this threat. In fact, I choose first aid as "optional subject" at school, maybe I can create some bullshit story to that as to why I need to continue that outside of school. One thing, my grandpa also volunteers at the red cross and other first aid organisations, so I just need to "end up" in a different one then he is because you know how family can be. I just say my first aid teacher had some activity planned for us in t…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 12:11 PM
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while not knowing her own estrangement from her father based on these lines I'm gonna assume she was raised by a single mother. With that being said, you can say about the harmful effects of single mothers on boys what you want(They're horrible, I say from experience), this is the effect of a single mother on a girl... just plain sad to see, and I low-key am scared my half-sister will end up that way too... let's just hope her biological father can make the best of her
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 11:53 AM
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In the Netherlands you can't have an independent bankaccount <18, no I don't have adults I can trust to deposit it to them. No, I can't request a physical paycheck because since 2019 it's illegal in the Netherlands to recieve salary in any other way than direct bankaccount deposit. Both PayPal and cryptocurrency is also illegal <18 and if you fake information you will 1.lose all your money 2.will be arrested for fraud, especially if your parents don't know
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 11:44 AM
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I could, but my mom will be very pushy to meet her and stuff. She's always done this with my friends too, but every friend I ever brought home commented on my mom's behaviour and the general house setting... You did this yourself mom, but I can't tell her that out loud. And doesn't it sound suspicious to say "yeah I have a girlfriend but she doesn't have a name, phone number, adress, etc etc."? And yes, that info is necessary, I remember wanted to go to a sleepover once at a friend's house and m…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 11:41 AM
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Tell her you were let go by them Nope, the money will still get deposited into my account and it's a bot that recognizes it or something I don't know exactly how it works but it's an automated action with nothing I can do about it. And since 2019 or something it's illegal in the Netherlands to recieve salary in any other form than direct bank deposit, under any circumstances, no exceptions possible. increase your network How do you even do that, especially in times of covid. How do you "meet new…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 09:42 AM
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how can I emancipate myself I've done research already and you can apply for emancipation at 16, but only if your parent's don't follow parental laws, which is happening in my case. Thing is, there is a chance my mom isn't lying and then we're in court she suddenly proves everything and then she gets really angry at me for "making her do this" "distrusting her" "why'd you do this" etc etc etc. talk to your mom and say that’s too much she’s taking Tried to, doesn't work. Apperently she needs it t…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 08:52 AM
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Libraries are closed due to corona lockdown that doesn't seem to end anytime soon. The prime minister announced last week it's gonna be extended to halfway february and by then it's probably gonna be extended even longer. Nothing is open...
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 07:38 AM
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I once lost 450,- in cash this way. She was "cleaning" my room, and I had a tiny safe(walmart quality one) and somehow, the next day the safe, the money and the spare key and the safe where gone, and she claimed to knew nothing about it. So there's that. I now keep it in a small fannypack I hade under clothes so I have it 24/7 with me. Yes even in my sleep. Also, the transaction is performd automatically, and I can't walk faster to the atm than a bot can perform an action
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 07:35 AM
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lower my grades Well.... let's just say in a time span of the summer holiday and a few weeks I went from a 3.2gpa to 5F's on my report card... I've also been missing online classes alot because I don't want to, and for some reason they're mandatory this year too... and all my mom does about it is come yelling into my room, demand reason for being absent and then leaves. She doesn't even seem to care about my grades... and yes, it does threathen my potential scholarship, but if I keep having prob…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 07:31 AM
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No chance with relatives. I have a very small family and all of them are taking my mother's side, so does everyone else. I don't have friends I can do it with either, sadly
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 01:37 AM
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tell her youre with friends. I know, but won't that get suspicious after a certain amout of times? Especially when you consider that I never go to friends or do anything with them, and then boom, every week or so. No, not realistic. I more thought of like, maybe a "study meeting/group" on saturday(sunday study is gonna sound wrong to her) and then friends meeting on sunday or some miscellaneous I'm gonna think of in the meanwhile. Keep in mind, everything in closed due to lockdown. And I try to …
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 01:19 AM
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retend you're a 16 y.o. girl and replace your mother by a jobless single father. Create a new account so they dont see this post. I have 2 things to say about this: Why would I play pretend? Is it necessary? Are people really like "oh a boy is being abused and used for money? Don't care" and then "oh a girl is being abused and used for money? aw so sad lets do something?... actually now that I typed it out it seems that that is likely the case. Thing is, I posted that question in a dutch law sub…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 12:52 AM
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Maybe open a secret bank account if possible. As mentioned in the post, you can't have an independent bank account here under 18. Physical paychecks are illegal too. Hence why I'm considering trying babysitting, reasons being mentioned in the post. Thing is, how do I do that without my mom knowing that, because she wants and will take money I make from there too. Sure, saying I hang out with friend might work, but after a while that gets suspicious. Everything is closed too due to corona lockdow…
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 12:06 AM
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I might give it a try, after some serious thinking on like... how to do it, how to approach him, etc Then again, he's now married(confirmed) and probably kids(not confirmed) and I don't want to disturb that life. Also because if contacts gets serious, I inevitably have to interact with my wife and no matter how good of a person she may be, that seems kinda off with me. I know how hard it can be do accept people suddenly close being to you in life(currently experiencing that with my moms new boyf…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 11:29 PM
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I could do that, but it still won't solve anything. The bank can't perform any actions for you if you're <18. The only exception from that is if you manage to get into college <18 (which is common in the Netherlands) but I'm stuck in highschool until 18 and dropping out is not an option. I have been planning to contact the bank anyway to see if there maybe is something to do. Though that chance is very small, it might be worth checking out What doesn't help is that what my mom is doing is techni…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 11:11 PM
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That's what I also find hard to swallow. I get it, women using their boyfriends and husbands as ATMs sucks, it's terrible actually... BUT THEIR OWN SON? That just seems kinda... I don't even have words for it. I just find it hard to accept that women extend their desire to use men in all aspects possible to little(she did this since I was a paperboy at 13) and teenage boys, even their own ones... Yeah, if I'm a bit older, as in 16,5 or something instead of only having been 16 for 5 days I will s…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 11:08 PM
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hahaha good one, if it worked. I once messed a bit around with the bank's settings to see wether I could to sortalike stuff, but nope, minors can't do that. Besides, she can she when the bot transaction failed, and if it does, she will storm into my room and demand the money in cash. She can also see which amount she's supposed to get from my salary. Is the sole purpose of women to control every aspect of a man's life? It's starting to look like that...
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 11:04 PM
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accept it No way confront your mother Tried it, didn't work. Resulted in yelling and aurguing and me crying for at least half an hour. (yes..... the money means that much to me and so would it to you if you had lived with a single mom for 16 years). My grandpa(only other man in the family) fully supports this idea, although that mainly is because I think he assumes she actually saves it up and my mom's boyfriend(I refuse to call him my stepdad (yet)) is I think neutral about this or doesn't know…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 11:01 PM
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Won't have any effect. It's a bot that automatically deposits half(exactly half of it, not a euro more or less, so it can't possible be handone, especially if you look at the times the transactions take place) of my salary into her bank account as soon as it gets deposited. I wish I could just give her less, but sadly it's a bot that performs the transaction. And as mentioned earlier, I can't walk faster to the atm than a bot performs an action...
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:54 PM
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you can start zeroing in on who he is.... I know the guy's name, profession, country of living, and I forgot them because I didn't note them down, but even his (business) email and phone number. How I found out about this? Internet doxxing (please don't report me) Thing is, I also know he has settled down, is married and thus probably has kids too. I feel kinda scared to just walk into that life. I'm even more scared of the backlash my mom's gonna give me. And even if it did work out, I live in …
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:49 PM
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unless your employer is willing to pay you in cash or some other form (Paypal?), Since a few years it's illegal in the Netherlands to recieve salary in any other form than direct bank deposit. On top of that, you can't have paypal under 18 either. So no, I can't request a physical paycheck
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:44 PM
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No law expert, but from a quick google search, but since a few years it's illegal in the Netherlands to recieve salary in any other form than bank deposit, if that's what you meant
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:42 PM
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Nope, paypal is also only allowed >18. Ofcourse you can fake your birthdate, but once they discover you will 1. lose all your money as they freeze your account and 2. I'm not ready to be held accountable for eventual fraud. Also, employeers can't deposit salary into a paypal account. And now, I can't request a physical paycheck either because since 2019(or 2017, can't remember) the Netherlands made that illegal....
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:39 PM
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Good idea, but I don't think they give college courses in weekends. On top of that, I'm in highschool, and those classes aren't given on weekends either. And as of right now, libraries, or anything, won't open anytime soon, sadly. If it wasn't for corona, or more specifically, the lockdown, that wouldv'e worked 100%
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:36 PM
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she may search your room if she gets suspicious. I once lost 450,- in cash this way. She was "cleaning" my room, and I had a tiny safe(walmart quality one) and somehow, the next day the safe, the money and the spare key and the safe where gone, and she claimed to knew nothing about it. That's why I have no difficulty lying to her; she lies to me all the time about stupid stuff, I can lie to her to get my earned money back. I recently got some sort of flat fannypack(don't know the correct word) w…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:35 PM
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without any father figure in the picture. Nope, not possible, wish I could though. My biological father isn't my "legal" parent, lives on the other side of the world and probably doesn't even know I exist. I don't have a stepdad either and I don't know that many people, let alone people I trust, and people I know, trust and are >18
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 10:15 PM
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Very well said brother, thruth right there!
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 11:59 AM
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"children of single mothers are more independent and smart than other children(so stop complaining)"~my mom. Yes mom, I have been an adult since 15(except for my age and physique ofcourse) because you never wanted to do shit for me. Also I am "smarter" because outside of doing adult stuff (not the sexual kind, I'm talking about the boring kind) I got nothing else to do because I never learned how to socialize so I turned to studying, for school or something else. I'd love to say I'm glad I'm sma…
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 11:30 AM
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You get it!
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 11:21 AM
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Let me tell you from experience, single moms are incapable of being good examples, no matter what they do
/r/MGTOW22/01/21 11:33 PM
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Once I move out, the absence of nagging(especially from women) is probably gonna be the greatest thing about it. Also hope that that dinner tasted as good as it looks like! Also always nice to see a fellow man being happy
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 09:28 AM
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Speaking of feminists wanting to switch roles...
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 09:14 AM
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Wow... so that's when the world started to work towards it's doom
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 08:10 AM
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Jesus f*cking christ dude.... I didn't watch the whole video as it is already late here, but with stuff like seeing guards almost every street corner to "protect" civilians.... looks like fascism to me. Like, I know Americans don't tend to like it when Europeans comment on their country.... but it's going to hell. Stuff like abortion is legal and actually encouraged, democratic party starts meaning communist party and now even the military. As I said, I'm not against women and black or lgbt peop…
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 10:37 PM
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So people who don't understand the differences between men and women are now in charge of healthcare? Don't see how that can go wrong...
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 08:59 PM
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theyre more worried about perceptions than reality more worried about performance reports or diversity/inclusion they dont have the guts to pull a trigger Those are all things that are the exact opposite of what belongs in the military. As I said, america is basically preparing to lose a potential war in the name of inclusivity. It's fine if they want that in civilian life I guess, but keep it out of the military for obvious reasons. Having more black or lgbt people on your army isn't gonna win …
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 08:47 PM
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Damn, is America preparing to lose a war or something. Also thanks for your service!
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 07:39 AM
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I know, and still they're pretending there aren't any differences. Women physically aren't capable of doing as much work as a man, and someone who doesn't deliver the same amount of work as another person can't get paid the same as the person who did more work, usually the man. Hence the wage gap is a thing. Women just don't do the same amount of work as men, because they simply aren't capable of doing that due to biological differences. Speaking of being delusional....
/r/MGTOW18/01/21 07:41 PM
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Why did they have to adjust the standards specifically for women if they're equal to men? Can't they just take the men's test so they can prove they can do just as much as men, as they always claim they can
/r/MGTOW18/01/21 05:52 PM
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If that's true and they make an actual action movie about her rather than making her a mary sue (*cough cough* captain marvel) then I guess I'm fine with it too. Thing is, some franchises are replacing male superheroes with their female counterparts, or at there are rumors they will, and that's the thing I don't agree with. But hey, if the hulk and she-hulk can live together in the mcu without turning she-hulk into a mary sue, why not? Edit: Yes, I knew she-hulk was already canon in the comics, …
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 05:20 PM
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I know that I'm supposed to be disgusted by this but when I clicked this post Sweet Home Alabama was playing from my playlist and I couldn't help laughing
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 11:05 AM
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Huh? I thought only fans was real job to get an income from, wasn't it?
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 11:02 AM
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the reincarnation of Hitler, knowing it was Hitler, as long as she had a slit. Modern society summed up. We're always supposed to believe the woman in rape cases, women make perfect ceo's and politicians and according to feminism and the court women can never, ever do something wrong. Meanwhile every man is the lowest scum of society just for having a penis. But no, men are the sexist ones arent't they
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 10:53 AM
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What if you're atheist though? Just kidding just messing around. I'm atheist, but if even I think it takes a godly miracle for this inauguration day to not go wrong.... the us really is a mess. Also I didn't even think of that. Is that how the law works? If the president suddenly dies the vice president becomes president? I swear to god if that bitch becomes president somehow the country is officially doomed...
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 10:50 AM
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(ie the real owners of this country telling her and Biden what to do). I feel like that's the worst part, apart from that's she's very hypocritical. She claims to be leftist, but she said lots of anti-black, anti-lgbt, etc etc stuff, but she's getting away with it because she's woman... I feel like she kind of a real life mary sue, or at least a very obvious diversity hire
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 11:39 PM
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I have the same with Kamala Harris. I don't mind biden being president that much, but why Kamala Harris as vice president? I haven't fully followed it but why do I feel like she only became vice president because they wanted a woman as vice president so badly? Edit: adding missing words
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 09:58 PM
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I already know everything she is using against me, and wether she knows that I know it or not... she also knows there is absolutely nothing I can do about it either way unless I involve authorities of which I'm dead scared of doing... and yeah, it sucks that the most hateful and toxic people in your life is your family
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 09:53 PM
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More specifically, men and boys, in my case at least. I know this isn't relevant to our converstation, but it's something about the law that I'm angry about. Okay so when I want emancipation from my parents, I have to go through all kinds of court stuff, right? Well, in the Netherlands there is a law that if you are a girl of 16 years or older and you get pregnant as a minor, all you have to do is write a letter+doctors note to the government(or court, don't know exactly) and you'll get emancipa…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 09:51 PM
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That wasn't in the Netherlands I hope??? I mean, if I had the choice I'd go to my father without second thought. I also don't know the status of the court case, but I sure hope that my half-sister's dad gets custody, for reasons mentioned above. Wish I could go with her too, but that's not allowed because he's not a relative of mine, neither by blood nor legally... Still wish it was possible though. I'm currently deciding to take legal action for my personal situation or not. On one hand, I don'…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 06:38 PM
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No, she doesn't. He's not mentioned as a parent on my birth certificate(haven't checked, but this is one the instances I just believe my mom) and he no longer lives in my country, officially switched passport/nationalities. Someone with a foreign passport can't pay child support according to the law, and you can't go to court to demand it anyway. My mom also stated several times she doesn't want to ask him for child support for several reasons. Now, I believe she might doesn't want child support…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:34 PM
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for the most part yes. "luckily" my father now lives married in singapore, probably has kids etc. Or at least that's what I got from some databases I searched in name in. That database matches with the name and story my mom told me so no doubt that man is my father, but I don't have any desire do search contact with him, I'm just gonna let him live his life. It's a bit sad he left 3 year old me behind with my single mom, but I'm glad for him he left her, it's what I would've done, except I would…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:23 PM
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uh hu, single moms just are like that. She claims to deposit that salary money into a "future savings" bank account for me, but refuses to prove such bank account exists, refuses to show where the money goes to, at all and gets angry as soon as I even ask about it. I know living with only women for 16 years gets you pretty paranoid, but this is really, really suspicious to me. she can continue to control you even when your not her little boy anymore I only was her little boy when it was convenie…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:12 PM
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I thought exactly that too... thing is, in my country parents have to literally everything if you're under 18. Maybe just be really nice to them and they'll agree. I sure hope so Also it really depends wether their physical office is open or not, because for some reason minor's can't have an online appointment with the bank, or at least that's what their site says...
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 12:04 PM
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I want that too so badly, but in my country you can't have an account separate from your parents under 18 unless you manage to get into college under 18, but I'm stuck in highschool until 18... I'll still try and contact the bank to see if they can make an exception. And if the legal consequences aren't too high I'll force or fake a singnature from my mom if necessary What country where you in and how old where you when you got that bank account?
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:59 AM
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I think at 16 your able to work right ? Save up money I've worked since literally my 15th birthday (okay... I officially started 3 days after it, but still), but everytime my salary gets deposited some sort of bot deposits half of it (exactly half of it, not a euro more or less) it into my moms account... I've find out from multiple thrustworthy sources that it is illegal to do that, especially not without the child's consent. I'm not sure wether to take legal action or just contact the bank fir…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:51 AM
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I'll be 16 in exactly a week, so I just say I'm 16 now. And yes I still live with her, sadly. Why are you asking this?
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:40 AM
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I mean, if you're a multi billionare she can make you a billionare for sure
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 11:38 AM
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Thanks, it's always great to hear about people's succes stories who came from a similair situation. she didn’t teach me anything I didn’t know how to navigate out in the real world Well, for me it was kinda the opposite. Because my mom never gave a fuck about me apart from how many chores I could do and later bring in money, I always went out on my own, either outside or on the internet, where I learned lots of stuff. It's sad my mom keeps infantilizing me, because I can basically do everything …
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:35 AM
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mom treats him like a baby all the time They really do, eh? Want you to do chores and work and bring in money like a grown man, but as soon as it comes to having full control over said money, deciding your own diet(basically not wanted to be stuffed with junk food anymore) etc etc all the things a normal teenager does, a big no from her. It really sucks. Even tho the kid was bad as hell He probably can't help it. Fuck, when I look back the "younger me" a few years back when I always defended my …
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:31 AM
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Yeah, I know, but I got no other place to live besides with her. I recently started saying no to certain chores and stuff just cuz. However as soon as she starts throwing around threaths I just do it anyway what she asked, just not as good as it normally would've. I'm not putting in any more effort than necessary into that bitch anymore. And I usually just say I have homework to do, parents always eat up that lie anyway and nothing they can do about it
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 11:24 AM
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Don't worry, this only will happen if gta 6 is gonna released... and I think we all know when that's gonna happen...
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 10:22 AM
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she treats her son like a boyfriend was raising a son husband Single mothers raising there sons to be they man around the house Okay apart from having to lay in bed with my mother (which is super fucked up btw I hope that boy is alright now) it's exactly what I go through now. My mom has been single since I was born, never had a stepdad, maybe for the better. Either way, it's always "could you do x for me?" "can I borrow x amount of money from you (and never pay back)" etc. I feel like I'm treat…
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 10:18 AM
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Sounds like bottled up penis envy to me
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 10:28 PM
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Help her only when she treats you nicely "When mom send me to the pharmacy to pick up her meds I stuffen them into a backpack of mine and refused to give them unless she paid me 65,- , which is the money she owed me from 1. my birthday gifts I paid for 2. money she used for groceries the past few weeks. I feel like I had right to that money" A thing I did in the past days. Even though it was probably illegal for me to withold medicines from someone, I did get the money. I also learned that women…
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 07:42 PM
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girls playing games should be a random onlyfans girl with her tits out
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 09:05 AM
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Good to know all of that, thanks! Also, I'll definitly check out that book.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 08:17 AM
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Agreed
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 08:11 AM
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Yes, and thank you for everything. And I didn't even think of the last thing. Women love it when men devote themselves to her and give her endless compliments. I usually hates how she practically sees me as a grown man in terms of being able to provide instead, you know, a boy she's supposed to care for. But in last case scenario it can be useful. 3 hours more and I'll have been home for more than 24 hours, so that's a good feeling too. Until then, I'll start studying again and might go to physi…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 10:18 PM
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It's such misery woman creates. How does law defend them. Tell me about it. From like, middle school I was forced to go to mental health services, and they always told me how "cool it was to have a single mom" and I kinda went along with it. Around my 1st year of highschool I started realizing how horrible she really was. I tried telling them (I was still forced to go to them until corona finally hit, thank god) how miserable I felt living with her, and everytime I'd get lectured on how "strong …
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:36 PM
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Uh hu, that's exactly what I was planning on doing from now on. Funny story tho, it's usually my mom who threathens to call authorities. I used to get scared and do whatever she said anyway. Now I just shrug and tell her "go ahead" in like, a non-sarcastic voice. I will keep telling her no too from now on. If she's the first one who attacks me, you know who I will be calling...
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 07:24 PM
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You're 100% right, but you know how some women just are. Heck, she even asked for my salary in cash at dinner half an hours ago. I'm getting my salary a week late due to this year having a 53th week because leap year or something. Either way, my salary is a week later. She finally calmed down I explained again and she accepted. Little does she know that on my "morning walk" on 15th january I'm gonna speed to the atm to get my salary in cash and I will not leave my wallet out of sight for a singl…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 06:46 PM
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No, that's not possible, unless I start doing undeclared work and I don't want to do that. First of all because it is illegal, but mainly because I simply don't have any contacts for who I can work illegally, so I just don't do it. Sure, there are things like baby sitting that are "legal" undeclared work, but there is no way I can do that without my mom noticing and knowing.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 02:45 PM
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You know what? Hell yeah. I know I get my next salary on january 15th. I'll go to an atm asap that day, just say I'm going for a morning walk before school. If she then demands in cash, instead of giving the money continue the argument and see where it goes. I mean, she claims to deposit it onto a bank account reserved for "my future" although when I ask to show her proof such bank account exists, she doesn't even try to deny it, she just starts throwing around threaths. And well, given the fact…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 02:41 PM
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uh hu. Since my mom luckily still pays for my food and bills I don't need to spend money on "needs". Half of it gets taken by her tho. I usually save all of that other half of my salary up, and sometimes I let myself spend 10-20 a month on something extra I want, usually not more than 15,-
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:26 PM
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Could've gone with Winter Soldier, instead of Steve Rogers, though Haha yes, maybe I should've. Alhtough I like captain america way more, and I'm used to this username now. And yeah I agree, childhood shouldn't be sacrificied for it. Maybe it's because I don't know any better, but I actually kinda like it that I'm not fully dependent on my mom and can do things my own. Heck, I've done things that usually aren't allowed under 16 (no drugs or anything illegal, don't worry) but because I knew exact…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:16 PM
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I'm 16. No I'm not an adult, no I can't get away from my mother because she has full authority over me. I'd love to move out, but can't. Doesn't mean I'm not responsible. I worked since 13, signed my own schoolpapers, did my own medical stuff like doctor appointments, etc. all with permission from my mom, but still, I did the physical stuff myself, all from age 13. I also cooked for myself and stuff, because sometimes mom didn't feel like adjusting dinner time with my school and work schedule. H…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:01 PM
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therapy is all about gaslighting you into how blue pill is normal, healthy way to live. It really is. I was forced to a mental health service once and when I told them I felt miserable living with my single mom, they denied all my struggles and started talking about how hard she has it. They're all bluepilled. May I ask you learned to cope and live healthy without therapy?
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 12:47 PM
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I've been wanting to start sporting for a long time, but I have klinefelter so if I join a sports club chance is good that I can't keep up with the other people there. And gyms are closed due to lockdown. And my mom doesn't approve of my wanted to change my diet. No matter what I want, she doesn't approve of it. Trust me I tried multiple times. For the rest, you're right. I also started studying again since summer holiday, so I got that going for me, might as well find a hobby related to that li…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 12:32 PM
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I looked it up on the governement site and there are exactly 2 ways to get emancipated from your parents before 18: join the military at 17 if you're a girl and you have a child at 16 or 17 you and you want custody of said child you can let yourself declare an adult. No that law isn't the same for males thanks for asking. So yeah no way out because well, I can't get pregnant and since I have klinefelter there is no way I'm getting through the military test.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 12:29 PM
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Yeah, I am aware that that exists and that child labor is illegal, but since I willingly choose my job and decided to work, I can't use the excuse of child labor. She just takes half the salary, and that is legal sadly, as far as I'm aware. And since I choose to work willingly, I can't say it was child labor and I can't just choose to quit my job either, since I really need that money to build up a cash stash, even if it's half my salary...
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 12:17 PM
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Yeah, I know. I thaught about calling the police's domestic number. Not 911, but the other one. However, there is no way they can act fast enough for my family to not notice, and then I'll be in huge trouble because then I'll have my grandparents against me too (they're neutral now) and my grandpa used to work for the police too, so yeah I'm fucked. And as I mentioned earlier, my half-sister's dad involved authorities a few years earlier, back when I was 12 or something. And I do not want to go …
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 10:37 AM
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The school can only force you in extreme situations tho, and the government demands you go for a mental health check up every 2 years or so. The school decided I was "too mentally unstable" for a time period earlier this year. I was trying to cope with the fact that 1. I was diagnosed with klinefelter 2.I have to wait until december 2021 to get testosterone because my mom thinks testosterone isn't necessary which, technically speaking, is true. It's not like I die without it, but you know, would…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 10:21 AM
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I checked the webiste, but they have no physical locations in the netherlands :(. Then there is one other organization here, the ggd but they can blatantly everything to your parents if you're under 16. Besides, theyre like 90% women(I was forced to go there multiple times, I can know) and the 10% of men are very, very bluepilled. Like I was forced to talk to this woman for some time because the school said I had to (yes, schools can force you to go there) and I was explaining how I didn't like …
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:56 AM
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What is ONG? Never heard of it and can't find anything on google
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:32 AM
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All public spaces such as libraries are closed due to corona, and I don't know any people in my area. And no, the rest of family are all taking my mother's side and don't like me either...
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:31 AM
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the Netherlands. Why are you asking?
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:29 AM
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Reminds me of that time when the teacher was like, 5 minutes late to class and some girls decided tiktok was a good idea to do in that time and so when the teacher finally walked in they were full on twerking for their camera... and he/she(can't remember which class, it was pretty earlier in the year) didn't even say anything about it and started lecturing. I'm in sophomore year mind you (15/16yo), so were those girls.... it's straight up grooming and it's sad to see, on the other hand I could n…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 09:12 AM
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My dad left the country when I was 3 and haven't looked back on me, or my mom ever since. He's now married in Singapore, probably living his best life, or so I've read from some archived documents from 2013. As far as my goes, I think she's both somehow. She's a trump supporter and even used to date a man who walked with a confaderate flag on his back daily. That man is my bio father btw. However she also supports stuff like abortion and likes that my school now has a liberal/feminist principle,…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 08:59 AM
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About the money stuff, in the Netherlands you can't have an independent bank account under 18. I have "my own" bank account, but my mom can use it too, but I can't use hers, you understand? So yeah everytime my salary gets deposited into it, she takes half of it and if I manage to withdraw it all in cash before she can do, which I did exactly once, she will stand next to my bed at 7am the next morning demanding half my salary in cash.... women will really exploit all men, even their own sons who…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 08:51 AM
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It was on my mind, yes, but I didn't go through with it last night and returned home after like, 3 hours? Pre-corona there went trains to belgium, france and germany on the daily, you don't want to know the urge on just hopping on the train to france and never looking back. Yes under 16 you need parental permission bla bla bla I know how to forge signatures, or else I'm just gonna sign it, fuck if they know. Thing is, if I go to france, any foreign country, hell, even just to another city then I…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 08:43 AM
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Okay, but I'm even scared of posting that here because I'm still scared someone will report me even though they practically don't have any information... Living with women for 16 years gets you pretty paranoid, okay? Anyway, a list of stuff I did that I think will get me into juvenile: -When mom send me to the pharmacy to pick up her meds I stuffen them into a backpack of mine and refused to give them unless she paid me 65,- , which is the money she owed me from 1. my birthday gifts I paid for 2…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 08:35 AM
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No, I wouldn't. However, being emotionally and verbally abused everyday whilst getting used for money and chores by your own mother is a bit different than being bitten by a mosquito
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:38 AM
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I'm sure the netherlands are a good country, yes, but there's a few problems. I thought about calling the police tonight too, but there's no way they can undertake action before my family finds out and then I'm fucked. And as the post says, I've done really bad things too that will definitely end me up in juvenile, and I don't want that. At least mom won't call the police either because she knows we both going to prison then. Second reason, my half sister's dad already involved authorities in ou…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:36 AM
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You're right, and women using their husbands and boyfriends as money sources and other stuff is already bad, really bad. But their own son? I don't know man, that might be even worse, especially since I'm underage and thus legally a child (or teen, idk if there's any difference) either way using your son for your own good is really bad... I sadly already have to give half my salary to my mom (I work a teen job), although she refuses to say why, just have to. If I don't deposit it into her accoun…
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:30 AM
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It's impossible to talk to her. I tried multiple times in the past, but she never takes it seriously but always finds a way to use it against me. Today again. I tried talking about why I think she treats me really bad and why I think that. Long story short, we got into a physical fight that caused me to "run away" for a few hours. I'm "safely" at home now tho
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 12:57 AM
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As the post says, my sadness/anger comes from the fact that my single mom treats me horribly; she sees me as a money source and personal chore-doer, not as her son. I'm sad and angry because women, and especially my mother, have been mistreating me horribly and I can no longer deal with it, but I don't want to be angry about women all day, so how do I get past that feeling?
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 11:28 PM
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My mom treats me very badly but I'm forced to live with her for at least another 2-3 years and I'm scared of what will happen in that time, especially since I got aboslutely nowhere to go. So I'd say the primary emotion is either sadness or fear. My mom's been using me for things like extra cash (I'm the only one in the family that works a job) and doing chores. I feel like she sees me as a just a source of money who can do chores too, and not her son. I've had that feeling for long now, but I c…
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 11:05 PM
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I heard there are some comic that features iron woman. Given that iron man is dead, I wouldn't mind him being replaced with her, because it could be well that it is canon, don't know for sure. And yes, captain america is sam wilson/falcon now, whose a black dude. Again, this is canon according to comics, and Steve Rogers is old and retired, and somebody needs to replace him. What I was talking about it is superheroes who are still healthy and alive in the mcu such as Thor and Hulk being replaced…
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 12:12 AM
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Aren't they already making a "lady thor" and "she-hulk"? It's a shame they're doing this, but oh boy if they dare touch my man Captain America... I don't even have words for what I will do then
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 06:45 PM
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I'm aware that breast reduction/removal surgery is an option, but getting on testo alone takes more than a year, let alone actual surgery. Besides, you have to be 18+ for such surgery. That voice training stuff. It's not the type of voice I have, it's the high pitch that I hate. I sound like either an adult woman or pre puberty boy. Because of height and behaviour etc. People tend to think I'm a woman, because thanks to modern society you can't dress a certain way anymore for people to think you…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 03:03 PM
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I know, my brother, I know... laws are very strict here. Outrageous long medical care waitlists (I have to wait until december for testo injections) and equally outrageous costs. Basic mandatory insurance is 110,- - 140,- euros a month. And that barely covers everything, and is demanded by the government. Colleges are 2500,- a year and that price goes up every year by 500,- or something. Pay out of pocket, or borrow by a bank. Mandatory school until 16, and can't even choose your own subjects, y…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 01:05 PM
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I thought about it for a while to start over with some savings, but after having lost 450,- , I'm way too paranoid to have cash money, except for some spare money in my wallet, which is 40,- at most, and I prefer to keep that down to 30,- max. Although your money belt idea is pretty good, I also just remembered that our workplace gives employees free lockers. You have to share them with a coworker, but I think mine is unshared, or at least I never see someone elses stuff in it, or we have comple…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:52 PM
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What are you so shocked about, exactly? I'm from the Netherlands btw and live there too
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:33 PM
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I already keep some sort dairy. Used to write everyday as it is very calming. However, I kinda stopped doing it and limited to once or twice a week because writing takes so much time... and I know the whole saying "you don't have time, you create time" but how??? How do you "create" more time. I could start stuff like planning homework, but I have a very hard time estimate what a good planning would look like. Any tips on how to create a good homework planner, or planning stuff in general?
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:32 PM
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He mentioned it, but he said testo would have the same effects, I might grow 2-3 inch at the very most. Male parts growth wasn't mentioned by the doc, but I googled it and there's a slight chance your penis grows, but it's very limited. Besides, I'm fine being 5'6 with a bit smaller penis. The things I'm worried about is facial structure, gynocomastia and voice, since those are the things that get me mistaken for female
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 02:02 AM
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you to also start stashing money away in a place only you know about Wanna know a fun story? I once had 450,- stashed away in a safe. One of those cheap walmart ones, but still, it had a lock and stuff. I hid that one away too. I had two keys of it, one main, one spare. A few weeks later, the spare key was gone. It hung on my bicycle key, the other one on my home key. It was just gone. So was the safe. I stashed it in a cabinet. My mom tends to "clean" my room and going through cabinets. I don't…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:20 AM
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I'd love to, but due to several things I can't notify authorities fast enough before my family finds out. Look at what happened when I tried to warn the school about my situation. I'd rather sit it out until 18. I've learned to cope with not recieving medical care, it's not like you die without testosterone, also hence why they technically aren't denying me medical care, it's not really a disease, or so I've been told multiple times. You can live perfectly fine with it, apart from some inconvien…
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 12:08 AM
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I'm impressed how you've been able to sort out your feelings towards your mother. The fact that you still wish her well is admirable I hate her as a parent and a person. She's actually goddamn awful as both. But she's still a fellow human being, and no matter how much I hate one, I would never wish sickness or death to another person. And you are right about the sex drive thing, although with testo treatment that can rapidly improve. But as you may know, men with klinefelter often have small tes…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 04:48 PM
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I mentioned throughout this whole thread I'm underage and yes, I do realize this is child abuse. She luckily never actually went through with the threaths, but they still hurt from time to time. Thing is, if I report to authorities, they will immediatly notify my mom about it, and I can't even imagine what will happen then. Now that you mention it... the child abuse service are already notified of this situation. My half-sister's dad (we have different fathers, thus the "half" part) and both me …
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:52 PM
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You're right. Sometimes mom leaves the house for the day to do something, and those are my favorite days. Monday my mom has to leave for surgery. Ofcourse I hope the surgery goes well and all, but I already look forward to 2 days of complete peace and silence, apart from a few hours school and having dinner at my grandparents because my mom made that mandatory. After the surgery lots of mom's friends, who are complete strangers for me will her with recovery, but after then the longer school days…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:38 PM
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Having no contact ever with her again after 18 is my exact goal(in terms of family), and I have multiple ideas on how to achieve that. And yes, my country has an option to join the military at 17(probably with parental consent, not sure, but probably) but I have klinefelter, so I know almost for sure I won't pass the military tests. Sixteen may seem like a long way away I mean, my 16th birthday is in 12 days. Yes, I've started counting down. Although I won't be emancipated by then, my mom will h…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:17 PM
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I wish I could do what you did, but that's not possible anymore. You need a driver's liscence before you can even buy a car, even if it's second hand. Driver's liscences cost a lot of money, and although you can technically get them at 17, if you do that there need to be an adult (with driver liscence) assisting you until you're 18 everytime you drive. Libraries are sadly closed due to corona, but since my mom is dumping me at school anyway, might as well request to be there 8:30am-16:00pm, the …
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:08 PM
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Yeah, klinefelter can be treated through testosterone injections and a few other things... my mom never went through for treatment, but once you're 16 here, you're medically independent, and I'll go get those testo injections asap. The doc said it'll be December the soonest I get them, but it's something. As far as keeping family contact... nu uh, not for me. I want to leave this family asap. I'm trying to get to America through scholarships, but school is getting harder and harder because of kf…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 02:09 AM
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But start learning college level stuff too. What is it that you want to learn? I used to self study pre-calculus, and was kinda ready to move onto calc 1. But then the whole bullshit about being "mentally unstable" began and I had to stop. I wish I could pick it up again, but I already have an F for math (2.1/10 in our grading system). I also have an F for economics, French and Dutch. I used to have all A's for all 4 of those (okay a b for math, but still). Reason it dropped? That mentally unsta…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:23 AM
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The man in charge of the science department used to let me sit in his lab for studying, but the health coach decided I was "too mentally unstable" to be left unsupervised. He, again, refused to elaborate when I asked him to define mentally unstable. As I said, multiple students from parents who have essential jobs, or other reasons come to school, but I'm not sitting between some first year students (I'm in 4th year, there are 6 years of high school total in my country). My mentrix said I was al…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 11:45 PM
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I am 15, but my 16th birthday is within 2 weeks. I can't... the half of my salary gets automatically taken from my bank account by a bot or something. I once tried to withdraw my whole salary before the bank bot could take it to her bank account, which I did around 8/9pm something? Anyway, next day 7am she stood next to my bed demanding half my salary in cash, there's no real way to avoid it. As far as giving the additional cash... She literally threathened to not let me have breakfast and lunch…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 11:36 PM
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I actually love studying, but that is impossible now. My mom wants to have rock music blasting from stereo all day, and I can't study like that. She refuses to turn it down and when I ask, she starts to threathen me. A little noise I can handle, but stereo blasting music? Nu uh, not possible. Not to mention I can overhear phone conversations word for word, which is not ideal for studying. All libraries and schools are closed due to lockdown. So are all other public places. You are forced to go t…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 11:14 PM
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How am I supposed to do that when my mom just dumps me at school for 6 hours a day? She's also getting surgery upcoming monday, something with arteries (and she keeps smoking and drinking nothing but cola despite having had an artery surgery earlier in 2020) and that takes lots of recovery, and lots of strangers will help with that recovery, so lots of strangers just walking around the house, while I try to study. My grandparents invited me to temporarily live with them for the time being, but t…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 11:02 PM
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I'm 15, almost 16. The soonest you can get legal emancipation from your parents in my country is to join the military at 17. However, given the fact I have klinefelter, there is no way I'm getting through the military test. My dad is living in singapore, married to presumably a woman, and probably living his best life. I'm not gonna disturb that. Besides, there's probably a reason he left. For the rest, nope, I live in an all female family, except for my grandpa who is like 70 years old. My gran…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 10:54 PM
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My dude, you have no idea how much I would love to do that, but I'm 16(almost, in 2 weeks). Although I agree on the school stuff, I need it to get into college. And my dad... well, he left the country. I googled his info once and he's now married in singapore, then I'm not just gonna burst through his door(figuratively speaking) and be like: waddup, this is your son from 16 years ago. I wish I could go live with a friend or on my own, but that's not possible sadly... as I said, truely nowhere to…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 10:41 PM
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Stuff like this reminds of how my father "went his own way" but left 3 year old me behind with my single mother. I don't want to exaggerate stuff here, but I have at least a minor trauma from living with her for the past 16 years, and at least 3 more to go... Seriously, go your own way but don't forget about your kids
/r/MGTOW208/01/21 08:35 AM
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Bold of you to assume these feminists do physical activities Edit: I thought this said biking/biqueen, not blinking/blinqueen
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 01:52 PM
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New word for me. I googled it and yup, that's the word
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 12:49 AM
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This makes me ashamed of country.... I thought you were better Max :( Then again, the woman shouldn't have "cheated" (I know it's not the right word, can't think of a better one) in the first place, but still. Pretty disapointing
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 12:18 AM
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Chance is small, but if my mother ever discovers I'm mgtow, she better knows it was her fault I ended up here in the first place
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 02:11 PM
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I tried to, but no helpful results, really. Online they only mention the physical side effects (hmmm, wonder what those are, definitly don't experience them on daily basis) and as far as mental effects it just said "boys with klinefelter may have speach difficulties and/or a learning disability. Now I do have autism, if you count that as a learning disability, but I doubt that has anything to do with klinefelter. As far as the speech problem goes, I wouldn't know, I would say I'm okay in speach,…
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 01:29 PM
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Yes. Although maybe not phsysically, I'm mentally strong if that's what you're talking about. And the whole "it changes how you interact with people thing", can you explain what exactly is different? Like do you notice any differences talking to me and talking to other people on this subreddit for example?
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 06:59 PM
2

Thanks mate, same for you!!!
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 05:08 PM
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Is it going to be like when Steve Rogers got shot up with Super Soldier Serum? Probably not. Did you mention that specifically because of my username? Okay but for real, no I don't expect it to be like that, although I use Steve Roger's story as some sort of "motivation" that I can be big and strong too one day. I've actually been trying to lose some excess weight so that when I get on those supplements, which is hopefully at the end of this year, I can start of "blank" and start building muscle…
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 05:04 PM
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Hmmm... no, I don't really regognize those behaviours/ideologies in myself. I guess that's a good thing tho?
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 04:31 PM
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Uh hu, I understand what you're saying. But still, what does lower testo levels have to do with being more dependent on others? If we are speaking in terms wether I defend myself... no I cannot, due to those low testo levels. But I can still think for myself, form my own opinions and don't fall for the trap of crowd thinking. Do lower testo levels affect that too? Because in my case, I don't think so. How would I end up in mgtow in the first place otherwise? Also another question, once the docto…
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 04:29 PM
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Care to elaborate? Again, genuinely curious as the doctor that diagnosed me with klinefelter didn't go much further than "yeah you have low-t pernamently" and didn't discuss the mental part at all. Are there any (dangerous) mental side effects from low testosterone levels?
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 04:22 PM
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"once men all men have sex dolls, women will shout "they won't love you like a real person". Men whisper back:"neither do you" Some quote I saw a while back, this made me think of that
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 03:55 PM
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Okay okay fair point. But how would low-t make me dependent on others? I just look a bit more feminine until I start taking testo (which is soon, hopefully), but no real phsyical disabilty I would say. Just a genuine question, but how would low testosterone levels make me more dependent on others? As I said, my mom wasn't someone I could depend on, at all, and nor did I ever have someone else to depend on. Always being o my own, and I honestly like that way better. So yeah why are low testo leve…
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 03:44 PM
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So low-t men are automatically bluepilled/beta's is what I'm getting from this? Like, as someone with klinefelter I have pernament low-t without being able to something about it besides medicine. Why can't I be mgtow? Because my single mom sure as hell wasn't suddenly like "oh you have this klinefelters disease? Oh I'll start treating you nicely now". If anything it was the exact opposite. I do agree with that lot's of women do crowd-thinking. It's how the whole feminist movement is still a thin…
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 03:33 PM
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Not to mention how they made him leave all his modern friends and the life he build up behind for a woman... the media is way too bluepilled nowadays
/r/MGTOW01/01/21 05:31 PM
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This is why I hate my dad probably went mgtow without me. I have no idea if he married or got a girlfriend after this, but basically my dad left the country with a high paying job (100,000$+) whilst owning a really expensive but good harley and gaming laptop, with no commitments to friends or women... the dream honestly... bit sad he left me behind with my single mom tho... It's also really shitty of your mom to say stuff like that. I hope you no longer have contact with her or at least don't li…
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 10:09 PM
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Well ¨she¨ is a guy, so...
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 04:46 PM
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Wait, some (single) moms actually care about what their kids want? Damn so some aren´t lying about ¨my kids are my world¨ Okay so I´m the only son of a single mother and even though I´m not so entitled to want the newest consoles, clothes, other overly expensice stuff, etc. not getting constantly emotionally abused and exploited for stuff would be nice...
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 12:21 PM
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I don´t know which country you´re in, but some countries require you hire a certain percentage women, so take that into account when discussing this with your friend and research with rules you´re country has on that topic. Best of luck!
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:42 AM
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Thanks, I will continue working on it as much as I can! :)
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:29 AM
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Exactly! I was busy for scholarships before I even got into mgtow, just because I wanted to get away from my all-female family. Except international scholarships are very rarely given (I´m not from america) and studying in an all female household can be hard and schools are closed due to corona... guess I gotta make the best of it.
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:18 AM
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What do you think I´m planning to do as soon as I turn 18? Well giving the fact that I probably can´t afford housing then, at least get a seperate bank account my mom can´t acces. Seriously good advice, never, ever share money with women. Unless you´re underage and don´t have a choice, and even then do it as soon as you can get a private bank account.
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:05 AM
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"feMInIsm is foR eQualiTY"
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 02:40 PM
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Ah, that clears it up alot. I didn't bother to read the article because I don't want to read about someone else's trauma with single moms, as my own one is enough for me... And yes, I'm 15, have a retail job that pays 175 max. a month, and she still has the nerve to take half of that... fuck all single moms and if they ever say "my kids are my world"... that's a lie, they're just as toxic to their kids as to their partners, at least in my case
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 03:08 AM
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Lmao what? Where'd that come from?
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 05:23 PM
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Wait, they don't just steal half their son's salary for her own and justify it by saying he's a minor? Wow lucky kids.... What no I'm not living through a trauma created by my single mom, what are you talking about?
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 02:32 PM
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I have one half-sister. Don't see her often as she lives with her dad as he has main custody. I sadly have to live with my mom fulltime because my dad left the country and broke all contact. When my half-sister is with us, in weekends for example, I don't talk to her and interact with her as little as possible, as she extremely sides with my single mom. Defends her in court, defends all her actions, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if she grows up to be a feminist. However, I must add to that I clea…
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 01:23 AM
2

So that whole "my body, my choice" thing only goes for women, and not for men?
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 01:08 AM
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With that whole anxiety thing, the only girl I ever asked out rejected me said she couldn't do it due to her "anxiety". Next monday, lots of pictures of her going out appeared on her instagram. I haven't really bothered with women ever since. Usually the stories about anxiety aren't even true and are just an excuse.
/r/MGTOW24/12/20 10:42 AM
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Everyone should decide their own looks. Oh except when you're healthy, then become as obese as possible to conform to our delusional ideology
/r/MGTOW21/12/20 12:52 PM
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She probably got into those fields through "women only" scholarships, too. Where is my scholarship for being male?
/r/MGTOW21/12/20 12:42 PM
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looks like she took "hoe for life" a bit too seriously
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 05:40 PM
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Another perfect example as to why avoid single mothers
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 05:34 PM
1

Grand Theft Auto, one of my favourite videogame series!!! You absolutely deserve this brother!👑
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 08:56 PM
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You shouldn't. Not in my case at least. Years upon years of verbal and emotional abuse, and im supposed to restore that relationship. Sorry, but thats just impossible. Besides, you know how single mothers tend to be? They are exactly like that to their children if they dont agree on her parenting views. So yeah, in my case, dont be sad. My future is absolutely dark for now, but if I find a flashlight somewhere, or even a match or lighter, i can find the light switch and might actually have a fut…
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 08:51 PM
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I appreciate your comments a whole lot but... OH GOD PLEASE NO, not family therapy. We were forces to try once after i got diagnosed with autism, and my sister thought it was golly gee fun to break my arm(it was an "accident", but still) and we had to come back a second time, at that was the end of it. Sadly, the only public therapy service in my country severely traumatised me (they handeled the family therapy, along several other things) and I dont want to go there anymore. And I cant afford a…
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 08:43 PM
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Trust me, I´ve seen her enough times outside the ¨mother role¨ she´s really not that nice of a person. Maybe to other, but not to me. Besides, doing essential stuff together(doing groceries, planning appointments, etc) always goes tremandously wrong, let alone do something for fun togehter. I just have to hold on until im moving out, I guess
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 05:52 PM
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Thanks bro, and I know exactly what you're saying about living with women. I try to focus on myself in quarantine anyway!
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 09:06 AM
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Maybe you're right, although I think it sometimes goes to an extreme end. Cleaning plates/cups I understand, and I usually do that, but cleaning my room never seems to be enough, no matter how clean I make it... guess I'll try to put some more effort in it and if that won't work, I'll just leave it for what it is. Gosh, if I ever get to live on my own, I ofcourse will put effort in keeping the place clean, but never take it to such an extreme end...
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 08:10 AM
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I learned number 2 the hard way, but I won't stop doing it because I *know* I'm right... maybe I should, for the sake of my mental health. The main reason I always get into conflict with her is because I don't want to let her think she can just do whatever she wants and command me to do stuff whenever she wants... Guess I just gotta push that feeling to the side a bit, but how? Are there ways to turn certain emotions off and replacing them or getting rid of them entirely?
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 08:04 AM
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I'd bike or hike 10 to 20 miles a day Jeez, that's alot for sure. I do have a bike, just a "normal" one though, not some special sport bike or something. Besides, I only use it to go to school and work, which is like an hour per day at the maximum... Maybe I can just take my normal bike and go cycling, there are some long cycling-only roads nearby that lead to another city if you continue long enough. I've never been a huge fan of "recreative" cycling, but then again, it's not like I got anythin…
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 08:22 PM
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Good idea, but I live in the middle of the city, like, on a street that directly leads to the downtown church, which is exactly in the middle of the city, so no real hiking trails anywhere nearby and walking in the city is very, very boring in my opinion, especially after having done it so many times... I only lived for one month too, so I don't even know the neighborhood that well, except that it are all big city parts. Do you know anything fun to do in the city center of lockdown?
/r/MGTOW214/12/20 07:58 PM
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I already kinda did that, I went to school, then took a nap until dinner, eat dinner, continue to sleep until like, 10pm, and when she sleeps or at least the music turns down, I put on some calming music, or none at all and start studying until 2pm, sometimes even 3pm. Then I'd go to sleep and wake up at 7 for school, which always got me tired, but with lockdown... there is no school really (apart from "online classes" you can sleep through because the teachers don't care) So yeah you might be o…
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 07:20 PM
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Okay, I already kinda knew that, but it's kinda hard to "not let it get in your way" if she's always playing loud music or I can hear her phone conversations word for word (we have thin walls) which makes me unable to focus on studying or reading... any advice on that if "just ignore it" doesn't work? Or do you know anything about how to ignore it?
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 07:15 PM
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I assume "move out on your own" is not possible either due to age Yup, exactly, even if I had the money, I'm legally not allowed to move out (are minors allowed in mgtow and are they common? Haven't met one in real life so I don't know) And the ignore her part... I tried that, but she always has loud music playing (she'll just yell at me if I ask to turn it down) or loudly talking on the phone. What doesn't help with that is that I'm autistic and thus really sensitive to sound so I can't focus o…
/r/MGTOW14/12/20 07:12 PM
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I must admit that I used "degrading" because I could not come up with another word that suited better, but I meant to say that I think it's weird/hypocritical when they say they're "proud to be female" yet disapprove o anything male like, including but not limited to saying you're proud to be male. Although I do think you got a good point too.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 02:25 PM
1

Seems accurate
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 01:01 PM
1

Why are feminist proud to be female, but think it's degrading to be proud to be male? Hell nah, I'm proud to be a man, and embrace my masculinity, as every man should in my opinion.
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 12:01 PM
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Nice work, keep it up! Way better than spending hundreds of dollars on a therapist whose taking a woman's side anyway
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 11:51 AM
2

My bad, ofcourse all men are emotionless and heartless psychopaths that k*ll and r*pe women
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:58 PM
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"we are the ones being silenced" ~the women who control most media nowadays, write most articles and only care about women's issues (what is male depression amirite?)
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 08:47 PM
1

Wait, pirates of the Caribbean is getting a female remake? That's pretty whack, if you ask me. Margot Robbie is a good actress, but outright replace Johnny Depp with her? Why?
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:35 PM
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I was raised by a single mother, and sadly recognize all of these when I look back at the men she "dated" during my childhood. Please stay away from them for yourself, but also because they will emotionally exploit their kids too in order to get you to like her and her kids, or ouright use them as a "substitute" so she can tell people "she don't need a man". So do yourself a favor and stay away from single moms and avoid two traumas.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:29 PM
1

When the "original, creative and independent" women can't create a "original and creative" female character and have to steal a male one instead...
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:21 PM
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Where's the free speech now, SJW's?
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:10 PM
2

:( Hope you find some peace in yourself to cope with this. Just know that he's very happy in dog heaven think about you, how much you loved him :)
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:02 PM
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So sorry for your loss brother. At least he had a nice time with you. R.I.P good boy
/r/MGTOW10/12/20 08:11 PM
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Trust me, I tried multiple times, and she reacts exactly like that. Also whenever I confront her about anything, really. Quite sad, actually. That's why I'm trying to it as least as possible, and am planning to move out as soon as possible.
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 09:31 PM
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This is.... you're 100% right, I just don't know what to say about it... Looking back at the men my mom "dated" in my childhood and how it ended. I don't even want to think about it, knowing that it quite possibly ended in some sort of situation you described above. I'm glad I found mgtow for that reason, and I don't agree with the "single moms can be good parents for kids too" statement because I notice it in myself that it is not. I don't want to make big assumptions here, but I think my life …
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 04:43 PM
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...or their kids Why not? As a son of a single mother, I try avoiding the stereotype "single mom kid" as much as possible because I don't like it either, so can you eleborate on what's wrong with their kids and how one can avoid becoming/being like that?
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 03:59 PM
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I have no idea why either, probably something to do with having more freedom to do certain stuff. I fully agree with you and even though I still live with family, I look forward to moving out in a few years. Glad you're in a better (mental) place now!
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 03:46 PM
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good luck, brother
/r/MGTOW07/12/20 05:03 PM
2

My personal favorite is peggy carter, but gamora is a good one too
/r/MGTOW06/12/20 05:27 PM
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I mean, captain marvel is really just a ripoff from captain america, in name, but also in the movie in lots of scenes they just replaced him with a woman... really sad to push an agenda like that, escpecially after you claim to be strong and unique your own and then just pull stuff like this...
/r/MGTOW06/12/20 02:12 PM
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The captain marvel movie was made purely for female satisfaction, period. Her character is shallow and in no way unique to other superheroes but oh no we need strong women to satifsfy the women, #empowerment UwU. I watched it, and you can just see how clearly it is made according to the feminist agenda, bit sad, honestly, would've loved if it was made as an actual superhero/action movie, not some feminist agenda bullsh*t... Then again what did I expect from a movie made for "female empowerment"
/r/MGTOW06/12/20 01:52 PM
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True
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 08:30 PM
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Actually, shadowbans don't happen anymore, they were replaced with account suspensions. If you really think you're shadowbanned from some time back, try to view your profile whilst logged out. If it says "page not found", you are shadowbanned. If this is case, contact the reddit moderater team to undo the shadowban.
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 04:31 PM
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And thus onlyfans became a thing, sadly
/r/MGTOW04/12/20 04:24 PM
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If feminists say women want "real" careers too, are they talking about actually working or are they talking about just starting an onlyfans?
/r/MGTOW03/12/20 10:10 PM
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Also notice how when a women has a fast food/retail job, she is a "strong, independent women who can do it herself" but when a man has the same job, he is a "broke loser with no education and has failed in life".
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 11:25 PM
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Don't walk away, run away. You may have failed yourself as you stated, but you can try over again, and this time remember to cut off all contact with women, don't start relationships with them,especially not romantic ones, because yes, women will always try to use men to their advantage. Don't let it happen again brother, welcome back
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 02:05 PM
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Nice, keep it going man!
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 10:54 PM
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Did you mean: liberal men and male feminists
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 09:44 PM
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Sometimes it feels like all leftists think like that, at least the first part... Just remember that it isn't true and men are great and unique in their own way
/r/MGTOW227/11/20 03:17 PM
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they are injected with massive amounts of estrogen, which passes on to their milk. That's pretty nasty if you ask me, and I'm also wondering how that's even legal. Anyway avoid dairy from now on I guess, at least as much as possible? For the rest, you're absolutely right, and I will look how much I can change my diet right now and follow that. Along with regular exercise ofcourse
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 09:17 PM
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I can cook for myself if I had too, that's not the problem, it's more that I want to avoid conflict so I just go with whatever she says... although I do realize now that's not the way to make things better. So yeah I suppose I could give it a try? Eh, I'm just gonna tell and see how it goes.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 06:52 PM
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Will check out the last two things you mentioned, thanks.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 01:18 PM
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Suppose I could give it a try then
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 11:06 AM
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Damn, that's really fucked up. But also good to know it can end up well if you work hard enough.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 11:04 AM
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I never said that I was gonna give up on everything because of those things, I just think they're pretty harsch... then again that can also be used as some sort of motivation. I can't put in words how exactly but you probably understand what I mean. Men should support themselves and other men since rest of society won't do it
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 11:00 AM
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but I don't know what "nautical studies" means. Basically everything that has to do with the sea/ocean and the things that live in it. Think about marine biology, checking water contents and studying the sea bed. Now I do realize I might have worded it wrong because what I meant was more what you are describing: sailing overseas, boat maintainance etc. If I'm not gonna study biophysics, I'd love to persue becoming sea captain.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 10:57 AM
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All of them are good points, thanks!
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 12:30 AM
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Be accountable. Put reason first. Think your way through life. Women try to feel their way through life. That's why they blame men for their problems. It doesn't feel good to put blame on yourself. That one just felt like a hit to the face, but damn it's true. I often catch myself blaming others for my problems, although it has lessened a lot since I started working on not doing it and start fixing them, so I guess there's that. I'll continue working on fixing problems rather than blaming anyone…
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 12:19 AM
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Forget the motorcycle. Vikings sail. Get a sailboat. Too much to ask for both? For real tho, I love motorcycles, maybe even more than cars, and I also really like boats and all sorts of nautical-related stuff in general, that's why nautical studies are my number 2 study choice, next to biophysics. I just love the idea of both.
/r/MGTOW226/11/20 12:14 AM
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I don't know if you edited the comment later or if I just didn't read them the first time, but Know that the world doesn’t care about men or the value of it. and no women can ever love you unconditionally. Women don’t love the same way men do. Those hit hard, but they're probably the thruth and it's honestly really sad...
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 11:44 PM
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Again, absolutely correct :)
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 11:03 PM
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I believe the actual quote is "I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong" or " I didn't fail, I found 2,000 ways how not to make a light bulb; I only need to find one way to make it work. " Either way, you are absolutely right. ​
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 10:44 PM
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Hell yeah to all of these, I'll take most(if not all) of these into my plan on how to improve myself and indeed, do that step by step.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 10:26 PM
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Nicely worded and good examples!
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 10:06 PM
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All of these are so true, I don't even know what to say anymore, so I'm just gonna leave it to a thank you bro. This is some serious stuff I can use to improve myself, thanks!
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 09:54 PM
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Wow... I knew that men are more logical whereas women are more emotional, but damn.. Yes all you say is true. Might try some of these books, too. Thanks for your comment.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 08:08 PM
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As soon as I get some free time, I will study it. And good to know that experiencing emotions differently is a good thing, or at least normal because I was always told that "boys and girls aren't so different" while like, okay, everyone deserves equality but boys are simply not the same as girls, and I can know because I clearly experience and feel things differently than my family (yes... I have an all female family, at least the ones that are "close" to me, don't know about my distant family).…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 06:53 PM
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Do you lack an ardent sense of responsibility Actually, no I don't, because for most my life I had to do everything myself because well, my familty didn't really want to, so I know how to take responsibility. Do you lack introspection and self examination? And that's where it goes wrong. Due to having lived with my single mom and half-sister for a long time, I "learned" alot about how women's emotions work and how to deal with that, but I don't feel like I experience emotions the way they do, an…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 06:39 PM
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Did a quick search on what stoicism exactly is and yes, I'll look further into it because it looks like a very important thing to learn. deprogram yourself Deprogram myself from what? I know that having lived with a single mother my whole life isn't good for me, but what are some traits/behaviours you gain from such experience I need to unlearn? Like seriously, I know that something isn't good, but don't know exactly what and what to do about it no matter how much I want to, I just don't know...
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 06:22 PM
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Women are incapable of this type of relationship as you know As someone who was raised by a single mom(no contact with my dad at all) and still lives with one, tell me about it... And yes, finding such person is indeed a good idea, except I have no idea where to start at all, because I always lived isolated from the world and am not in any community, and school doesnt seem like a good place to start because the education system is very female centered and their methods are designed for girls so.…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 06:05 PM
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As I stated before, my grades aren't going to good (got 6 F's last test week, used to be all A's). However, I still have 3 years left in highschool, and if I work really hard for it, I can have all C's or B's at the end of my fourth year. (Our school system is different from the U.S, and I take the highest school level possible, so I got 6 years in highschool total). If I manage to do that, I start 5th year(thats from where on scholarship organizations start counting grades) with C's and B's, wh…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 05:58 PM
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Did a quick search and you can join the military at 17 in my country too. However that's not exactly the way I plan on getting away. I want to try to go for a scholarship in the U.S, because I'm really good at studying (I know it sounds vague, but I don't really know how to get it out in words). Problem is on how to improve my current situation to make that, or alternative scenarios happen. I've read alot in this thread and other sources on how to do that, and ofcourse I'll continue trying to be…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 05:19 PM
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Care to elaborate what you mean with help?
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:27 PM
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Focus on fixing those things that make you unhappy the most Well, the thing that makes me most unhappy is that I'm forced to live with my mom and I have almost no masculine influence in my life. The second one I suppose I could create by myself, but the first one... I don't know where to even start because it's not gonne be like that as soon as I'm 18 I can move out.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:26 PM
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Thanks, I'm definitly gonna try that. The reason I didn't earlier is because 1. I found it hard to plan out steps and 2. Found it hard to be disciplined but I suppose if I really work for it, it'll work out. take care of your health by eating healthy I sadly still live with my mom, so it's kinda hard to change my diet because I can't simply tell her I want to change my diet. That's why I want to move out asap, so I can make that kind of decisions my own. For the exercising part, I suppose I coul…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:23 PM
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Worry the rest later Damn, I needed to hear that today. My main problem is that I always worry about other, irrelevant stuff. Maybe that's one of the first things I need to improve For the rest, yes, I've been trying to study more and worry less, and it's not perfect yet, but it's working. About my emotional health, that's the big problem. As I said, I was raised by a single mother and still live with her (not willingly, and am planning on moving out as soon as possible) so I don't know how to d…
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:18 PM
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Damn that's kinda an extreme example, but... I guess yes? I'll spend some time examinating my behaviour and try to "replace" those with the good ones. Been doing that for some time but I guess do it more/better. As in I knew that something wasn't right, but I've been noticing that my emotional health went backwards rapidly and now my grades too... So yeah I guess examinating my behaviour and trying to replace it and/or improve it is the best I can do for now then.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:14 PM
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Learn new behaviors Such as? That's what I'm trying to do here, learn what kind of things/behaviours are good for you, so can you elaborate on what is meant with that?
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 04:07 PM
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