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Affinity4186/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:48 PM
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Affinity4186/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:08 PM
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ya dont say?
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 07:20 PM
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And it got 7.8k upvotes which means nearly 8000 people were stupid enough to believe it's real.
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:33 AM
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The fakest thing I've ever seen lmao
/r/AllPillDebate25/07/23 02:30 AM
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Women take FULL advantage of the women are wonderful effect to do truly evil things that the typical man would never in a million years get away with.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 01:23 AM
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Yeah that's also a huge risk
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 08:27 PM
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Statistically they're not worth the reward. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5789215/ 44.6% of autistic men were found to be virgins among a sample, with the average age being 35.7 years. https://reis.cis.es//REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf Being unattractive reduce a man's ability to find a partner but the same is not true for women.
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 06:04 PM
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I'd help my mother and one of my sisters but that's about it. My other female family members would rather defend the sisterhood than defend me so they can all kick rocks.
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 04:23 PM
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Stop abusing or shaming men for having hobbies-other-than-sportsball I laughed but I agree. Huge issue for me in high school.
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 02:09 PM
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Yes I've always thought surgery was kind of a cope in a way because she will basically like a fake version of you. It's much more validating to be liked for your natural genetics.
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 02:06 PM
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"Personality". Sure. https://psmag.com/.image/c\_fit%2Ccs\_srgb%2Cq\_auto:good%2Cw\_620/MTI3NTgyNDgxNjExMzAzNTU1/5.png
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 06:30 AM
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Charm? It's called being hot. It's called women ignoring red flags in guys that make them wet and seeing all the red flags in guys that don't. To women ugly means bad and handsome means good.
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 06:28 AM
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Womens real fear is being seen with or associated with an ugly man or a man low on the social totem pole. Their reputation and how they're perceived is everything to women.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 11:10 PM
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I am circumcised as well. I feel like this is the reason I can't cum for shit with a condom on the vast majority of the time. Going raw feels pretty good though and I have no issues cumming. I can only imagine how good going raw would feel if I was uncircumcised.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 10:56 PM
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That woman who went to HR is an extreme narcissist. Her thought process was probably along the lines of "how dare this man not kiss my ass every chance he gets! hostile work environment!"
/r/MensRights21/07/23 10:03 PM
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Your skills in bed ARE your looks. And your dick size of course. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2346531/Revealed-Women-really-likely-orgasm-theyre-attractive-man.html
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 05:12 AM
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Being too much of a smooth talker. As in speaks very quickly but articulately and is always coming up with witty one liners. Always knows the right thing to say and never runs out of things to say. Extremely smooth people are almost always psychopaths.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 11:00 PM
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They're starting to like them a lot more within the past 5-10 years. Especially post pandemic. It's not unusual these days to hear some Karen at work talking about how she sank hours into Tears of The Kingdom. But when I was growing up almost no women played video games. The few girls that did got swarmed with attention from the crusty nerds at my school.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 07:37 PM
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The most brutal blackpill most people refuse to accept is that most humans naturally find light skin and Caucasian features attractive. Look up "good doll bad doll experiement"
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 07:32 PM
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When a woman is shown doing something despicable as this it's: "but not all women are like that? You can't generalize!" When a guy complains about being ugly/short/neurodivergent and how it's impacting his success: "See you incels are incel because you're misogynist and you talk about how much of an incel you are when when you approach them"
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 01:09 PM
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has seriously considered passportmaxxing at least once and maybe has been a sex tourist Ah yes. You can't possibly be a truly nice guy if you want a break from the most brutal dating market on planet earth that heavily penalizes you for things that aren't in your control.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:42 PM
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WTF? ROBYoutube isn't vomiting bluepill garbage? Who are you and how did you hack his account?
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 11:38 PM
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TikTok will blackpill all men within the next decade.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 10:58 PM
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Just be confident bro in subreddit format.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:03 PM
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300 pounders think that healthy weight normie men are their looksmatch.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 04:29 AM
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In places like Colombia men commit way more violent crime and the men even beat their wives. Yet when I was in Colombia I couldn't find a woman who was as afraid of men as the average American woman is. MSM did a number on the way American women perceive men
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:45 AM
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Can't have people finding out that women are shallow and don't give a shit about men unless they're hot or have a lot of money or have a criminal record
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:34 AM
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Dating apps and social media opened the floodgates to allow women interact with any man in the world, including celebrities. It doesn't help that TikTok and Instagram algorithms are constantly shoving Chads and male models into womens' feeds. Their perceptions of what an attractive man is are becoming skewed because they spend hours on social media. It's sad because you have a lot of men that would have been considered very good looking 15 years ago becoming passport bros because they simply can…
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:28 AM
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He looked like a 12 year old boy. People need to cut the crap that ER was attractive. He wasn't.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 02:49 AM
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1 is being generous. It knocks off at least 2. 3 if you're also introverted on top of being autistic. And then if you're somewhat low functioning but not straight up retarded it's a 4 point penalty.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 05:13 PM
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My mom used to do little stupid shit like this and I called her on out it several times. She'll point at something she wants me to get but she won't point anywhere near where the item actually is.
/r/MensRights17/07/23 08:26 AM
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Radical feminists play a huge part in the current population of misogynistic men. From calling men creepy for being physically unattractive or socially awkward, to setting men up to be robbed for financial gain, to screaming "kill all men" on twitter, they are creating a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/MensRights17/07/23 08:13 AM
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I'm not that down bad yet.
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 11:13 PM
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Many guys get fucking professional photos and still get jack shit on Tinder lol. Yet you have male models with bedroom selfies that get 75 likes minimum in the first day.
/r/AllPillDebate15/07/23 01:10 AM
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Nah other men will jump down your throat too just to feel better about themselves for "not being a whiner"
/r/MensRights14/07/23 09:09 PM
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Encourage him to stay as healthy and physically fit as possible and tell him to not even bother with western women and get his passport. As a slightly above average looking autistic man with a fit body, dating women overseas singlehandedly saved my dating/sex life. I pretty much only date when I'm in Colombia and women love me over there despite my autism. Western women are always looking for "icks" or reasons not to like you. Being autistic she will find something she doesn't like about you 100…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 08:10 PM
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It's "sadder" when women and children are victims I guess so they overreport these instances.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:55 PM
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Yup. And it has nothing to do with girls being socialized better. Men are just more likely to overlook flaws in women whatever they may be. Fat, ugly, old, autistic, whatever. There are guys willing to hit it because many men have low to no standards.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 04:13 PM
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As far as maximizing SMV (not necessarily genuine desire) when maximizing a single variable nothing beats status. You could look like a hot cheeto diarrhea turd and get laid more easily than a unknown Chad if you're an NBA player. But when it comes to unknown randoms, face beats height I'd say. Women fall in love with a man's face.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:48 AM
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b-b-but they're charming and sensitive at first!!! stupid inkwell you don't know her situation!
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 01:44 AM
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Can confirm as a guy that is invisible to western women in his own age bracket (late twenties and early thirties) but have had multiple women in their 40s hit on me.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 11:40 PM
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Would rather geomaxx for younger women tbh. Cougars pursue me every now and then and I've smashed one before. But it's getting old that only much older women hit on me and never younger ones. I find it pretty insulting that women only find me worth pursuing when Chad doesn't want them anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 08:33 PM
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I think his point was that two people can play at the anecdotal evidence game. But what really matters is peer reviewed science.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:28 PM
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MALE ATTRIBUTES THAT PREDICTED A WOMAN'S ROMANTIC INTEREST Physical attractiveness (rs = 0.88, p<0.01) Sport/Exercise involvement or interest (rs = 0.48, p<0.01) THINGS THAT DIDN'T Big Five Personality Traits Affect Attachment Style Self-esteem Political leanings Values Social interest Similarity ​ I.e physical attractiveness is the strongest predictor and "muh just be confident" is bullshit as self-esteem didn't predict anything.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 07:25 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/ Just look at the first two for example. You're gonna tell me those are "pop" science? And yes I said bluff because you have yet to do any explaining. The sole intent of your comment was to make me believe that I don't understand anything.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 06:12 PM
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Bluff. Gaslight.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 05:24 PM
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This is bullshit. I can go on Tinder in Colombia go on a date at a local burger joint and sleep with her the same night. Trying to do that in America is like pulling teeth.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 06:36 AM
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Brazil is almost as bad as the west these days due to growing feminism. Many passport bros have stopped going there. Colombia, Mexico, Phillipines and Thailand are the easy countries. Dominican Republic is kinda easy too but it's getting harder.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 06:30 AM
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Exactly. Being a very smooth talker is the number one giveaway of a psychopath.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 06:02 AM
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I'm a black guy and I can confirm that Hispanic women in Colombia are more than willing to give American black men a chance. I've smashed white skinned non prostitutes in Colombia. And I consider myself a 6/10.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 10:03 PM
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Women are fully aware of everything that red and blackpillers talk about. The more it triggers them, the harder they try to deny it, the more true it is. They have to keep up the facade of angelic perfect judges of moral character or else society wouldn't simp for them and it would be difficult if not impossible for them to thrive. They need ugly nice guys to keep trying because if they don't it means no more step daddies and no more free dinner dates.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 09:54 PM
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Agreed. Dude is pretty much an inceltear user on steroids.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 09:08 PM
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Unlisted video The second guy is you lol
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 09:03 PM
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You're not wrong. But when those those same young hot women get older they'll start to panic because all their 6-7/10 back up plan dudes will either be dating foreign women or will have checked out of the dating market due to red/blackpill knowledge and not wanting to be a step dad to an entitled western woman and would rather cope with AI girlfriends or something. It'll be funny.
/r/AllPillDebate12/07/23 07:51 PM
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I don't have to approach another woman as long as I live thanks to geomaxxing. I have a rotation on FB/Instagram and I do very well on Tinder.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:47 AM
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I developed high inhib because as an autistic man I got negative reinforcement every time I attempted to socialize.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:45 AM
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Your comment has nothing to do with empathy for women and everything to do hatred of unattractive/neurodivergent men being happy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:40 AM
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Yeah it's annoying how people act like these aren't grown ass women with the ability to say "no" when asked on a date.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:36 AM
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Most geomaxxers can get western women but in the west they have punch below their league in order to attract women consistently because hypergamy is on overdrive. As a 6/10, getting a 6/10 in Colombia is several orders of magnitude easier than it is in the west. Some of us are tired of jumping through hoops for our looksmatches. If you're a guy that actually gets absolutely nothing in the west then I agree that geomaxxing isn't going to help you much if at all. Also nice job throwing empty shami…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:35 AM
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The idea behind this is that they do not want a man they deem as low value to dateva woman that is prettier than her because that brings her choices and value into question. Keisha gets soo mad when the 6/10 nerd she passed up for the 5/10 drug dealer gets a qt latina woman.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 02:11 PM
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Women have spidey senses than can sense your bitterness even without you talking to them. But they can't sense an abusive man apparently. If I didn't know any better it would seem like women judge men entirely on how physically attractive they are and how "cool"/neurotypical they are.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:59 PM
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He can get a self hating ethnic woman who is also ugly
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:56 PM
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Nailed it. It would kill western women to compete and be more pleasant people to be around. God forbid you try to convince them to have more realistic standards. Instead they try to limit your options to force you to put up with their BS and be the perfect betabux for when they're done getting ran thru by Chad, Tyrone, Pookie and Ray Ray.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:24 AM
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More like girls are given a pass for being weird and boys aren't. You're just another bluepiller who can't handle the fact that you don't have as much control over your life as you'd like to believe. When someone points this out, you have a meltdown and resort to shaming and insults.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 08:19 AM
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The not like other girls part is so true. I've seen so many weird, alternative, dorky, neurodivergent types who go for the same guys that "basic becky" does. Jocks, Chads, Tatted up thugmaxxed dudes etc. If you're not either 1.) very handsome or 2.) an athlete or 3.) a criminal you're going to be a hard sell to most women regardless of how she presents herself to the world. I'm sure women evolved through evolution to pick "safe" partners of high genetic quality; this instinct is like breathing t…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:22 AM
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They want you to believe that there are hordes of good women just sitting around at home being innocent and watching cat videos. The reality is that these good women get taken off the market early and stay off the market. That leaves the majority of men who didn't luck out in high school/early college to fight for the most narcissistic hateful women imaginable. The biggest issue with all of this is that no matter how much you self improve as an adult, you'll never have better dating options than…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:11 AM
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Women need to protect their innocent little angel image to continue enjoying a life of immense privilege. They don't care about being right or wrong. They only care about pushing forward a narrative that will cause society in general to continue simping for them.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:06 AM
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The more a woman talks about something the less it actually matters for getting her wet.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 11:36 PM
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There are just as many socially awkward women as there are men. Especially in the smartphone generation. But women get away with it like they can get away with being hideous and obese. There will always be guys wanting to smash and even wife them up.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 11:35 PM
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If you have two or more of these flaws you can basically kiss your chances of dating in the west goodbye. You can have one but you need to knock it out of the park everywhere else. Neurodivergent? Better be tall, handsome and white. Short? Better be NT, extroverted, handsome, and white. 4/10 face? Doable if you're tall, white and NT.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 11:29 PM
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These days I'm starting to hate simps who tear down other men for a whiff of pussy even more than modern western women. Modern women are the seed of bullshit and these simps keep throwing water on it so it can grow.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 11:23 PM
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Men are slowly but surely waking up thanks to the internet and especially tiktok. In 10 years it'll be too hard to contain. I'm genuinely interested in what will happen once the majority of men finally stop being bluepilled.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:44 AM
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Don't foreget that he also has to have 100,000 followers on instagram or else I'm gonna suspect that he's a creepy school shooter with no friends! Teehee. Getting a passport to escape this shitty dating market is the best thing that happened to me. And yes I have been ghosted for not having a fancy enough instagram. Fuck western women and fuck gaslighting posts like this.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:42 AM
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Yeah probably trying to keep from getting canceled. Most people on that sub actually agree with the blackpill "incellish" talking points as they're heavily upvoted. But if you only look at the comments you'd think otherwise. It's just that the people who disagree with the blackpill are the loudest. Vocal minority. I don't bother with that sub after getting banned twice. You have to put too much effort into making sure your comment doesn't contain any jargon that could be associated with the ince…
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:28 PM
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Women care about face more than anything. But they know if they talk about facial features they'll seem shallow. At least with height they can justify it by saying "I feel protected". No such thing to justify wanting to be with a guy with a pretty face.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 09:43 PM
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Only face rating you need is Tinder. Just run a tinder experiment with a lesser known male model and then compare their results to yours.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 09:37 PM
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Maybe not straight up ugly and super short no. But if you're not a manlet and you're somewhat decent looking you can do MUCH better in Asia/EE/Latin America than you can in America where your looksmatch will make you jump through hoops only to leave you with blueballs 90% of the time. The average girl next door is a lot more attainable.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 10:20 PM
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True. My dad never told me boys didn't cry but my mom and other women did.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 07:43 AM
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Not gonna lie. I was at a low point once so I wore grey sweatpants and thought of sexy things to get hard to see if it would work. It didn't. Women don't care how big your junk is if they don't find your face attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 08:32 PM
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"you're interpreting the studies wrong" - IncelTear gaslighter probably
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 08:29 PM
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I'm going to think back to the fat guy I saw with a hot girl at walmart 2 years ago and use that experience to cope and tell myself that all I need is confidence
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 08:28 PM
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No because in recent times I've reached the acceptance stage. I'm above average looking but not good looking enough to compensate for being autistic in the west. But yet I can get women in other countries to sleep with me after one coffee date. It feels like I cheated the rigged system and it feels good to be honest.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 07:46 PM
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Good old feminist logic 101: The part of sex work that benefits women (making money off male loneliness) is good. The part of it that benefits men (them getting a sexual release) is bad.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 07:08 PM
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Depending on the type of guy you are, American women are either the biggest prudes on earth or the most sexually liberated women on earth.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 07:06 PM
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Gymcelling, leanmaxxing, and geomaxxing did wonders for my mental health.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 06:52 PM
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About the same for Chad. Around 1 percent.
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 06:38 PM
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Using Tinder in the west in a nutshell (as a sub 9 male)
/r/AllPillDebate27/06/23 02:47 AM
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The only thing that can save a neurodivergent man is having Chad looks.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 11:45 AM
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That's a bit of stretch. Most women won't let a sub-5 even get the chance to demonstrate his so called social skills.
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:36 AM
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Modern women have a ridiculous number of options thanks to feminism and then social media throwing fuel to the fire. It's so bad that they can eliminate guys based on the most ridiculous criteria. Women don't have the luxury of being that picky in countries where feminism doesn't exceed the second wave. They consider themselves lucky if the guy they're with is decent looking and has a job.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 08:31 AM
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I'm noticing that in the west, men are increasingly only tolerated and less appreciated. The threshold to get the Chad treatment has risen through the roof. Sure you can go outside and see average men dating average women but when you observe their body language you can see that she looks at him as replaceable. Women are almost never giddy around their boyfriends unless he's a Chad. And even then Chad can be replaced by a chaddier Chad much more easily than before the advent of social media. It'…
/r/AllPillDebate26/06/23 08:13 AM
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Women also can't look like innocent little angelic perpetual victims if they're exposed for caring about looks over everything else. Having really bad acne in high school showed me first hand how cruel women are to men they they think are ugly. I've never been treated worse by women in general than I was when I had severe acne.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:00 AM
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It's for this reason I actually find it extremely easy to date in Colombia as an autistic man. It seems like it's their culture to say what is on their mind straight up which makes communicating with the women relatively easy. American women on the other hand expect you to read their mind and want you to communicate by flailing your body and face like a monkey.
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 01:38 AM
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As much as I dump on American women, all women around the world want a man several inches taller than they are. When using Tinder in Colombia I had several women ask how tall I was. Like highlyflashy said, it's biological. Back when we were cavemen women see taller men as being stronger and as being better protectors.
/r/AllPillDebate24/06/23 01:16 AM
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Blackpilled. Keep going to the gym and bulking and cutting until you have a physique like Brad Pitt in fight club. Your face will benefit from this as well as your bone structure will be more prominent. Get your passport and geomaxx to the Philippines where the average male height is 5'4".
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 08:01 PM
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Ehh. No matter how much data you throw at some people they don't care. As matter of fact they just scream at you louder and insult you with more intensity. Coping redpillers who cope with "game" and "confidence" are the most guilty of this. I want a purely blackpilled community that bans obvious infiltrators on sight so I won't have to deal with these low IQ normies. There have been a few but the feds always shut them down without fail.
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 08:42 PM
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Too fat, too ugly, too many tattoos, deep voice, no curves
/r/AllPillDebate21/06/23 12:06 AM
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Weed helps me forget about my problems so I abuse it quite a bit ngl.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 05:18 PM
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You really can't trust any woman when left to their own devices. Men always had the power to whip women into shape just by virtue of being physically superior. Women only have power in western society because we allow it. Western society creates laws that prevent men from using their physical strength to assert dominance over women. That being said non-western women still make better wives because they were raised to be wives. They cook, clean, and fall back and let you run the show.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 02:47 AM
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Most passport bros are now relocating to their country specifically so they can't be used for citizenship and divorce raped.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 01:16 AM
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nice chad > ugly bad boy
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 01:07 AM
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Eastern Europe probably. Heard of a lot of guys having better success over there than in America.
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 10:39 PM
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Looks trumps everything including "muh dark triad". Fight me.
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 09:19 PM
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Cope. Looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 09:17 PM
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Women are only like this in America, Canada, Western Europe and other countries with a high feminist presence. In Colombia I can spill something on my shirt on a date and still smash her later that night. In America? Ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:16 PM
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Money will allow you get a relationship and sex even but she won't desire you and if you're an in LTR you'll have a dead bedroom very soon. As for personality it doesn't matter much outside of a couple extremes. Being thugmaxxed or "darktriadmaxxed" will help an average looking guy quite a lot. On the flipside being on the spectrum will kill your chances unless you're Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:31 PM
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Betabuxxing. Sugar dating is on the rise. Seeking arrangement has grown massively over the past 3 years.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:23 PM
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I never had an issue attracting landwhales or cougars. But as a fit facially average looking man my looksmatch/agematch expects me to to jump through hoops. I'd rather just geomaxx.
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 03:09 AM
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Trans are a protected class so probably not for a very long time.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:44 AM
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Men have low standards and will stick their dick in anything. That's why the average woman has options. Look up "granny tinder experiement" on youtube.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:11 AM
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Simps are just as bad as modern women. I agree. And the crazy part is Simps know womens shit stinks and will still buy their used panties and other stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:09 AM
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I was on Qoves subreddit earlier and a woman accused him of pandering to incels because he stated that looks mattered to women. She got roasted for it tho so I still have a little hope in humanity. Just a little.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:08 AM
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Being a man in the West is a constant battlefield where you're competing with other men for resources and women. This is why I always say obsession with self-improvement for the sake of getting puss is a form of female supremacy. All the redpill gurus and PUAs are telling you to have money, interesting hobbies, ambitious goals in life, a gymmaxxed body, turn yourself into Thanos and travel to Vormir to get the Soul Stone, but for what? The average female, who is overweight and whose only hobbies…
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 12:34 AM
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But when a biological male says it he's gaslit into oblivion about how he has a personality worse than hitler.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 12:31 AM
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Geomaxxing works wonders when you have aspergers, granted that your physical appearance isn't holding you back (i.e you're not a sub 5/10). Women will excuse your awkwardness and chalk it up to you being a foreigner. Especially if they've never met many foreigners before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 01:57 AM
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I always knew looks mattered as well. It's just that if you express your frustration with being unattractive people will gaslight you and tell you that you look fine and that your personality sucks. I don't like it when people piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 08:23 PM
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Society runs under the lie that women aren’t shallow and if you can’t attract one you have a worse personality than hitler
/r/AllPillDebate10/06/23 06:05 PM
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I noticed that when blackpills are delivered via memes or stand up comedy or in any sort of comedic way they're more digestible to the masses.
/r/AllPillDebate09/06/23 08:42 AM
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More often than not the common denominator is subpar physical attractiveness. 80% of PPB are older out of shape bald/balding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:35 AM
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Not only hypergamy but you have to deal with the fact that modern women have fried dopamine receptors and get bored extremely easily. If you haven't noticed, these days, even handsome wealthy high status men have trouble keeping women interested (e.g Michael B Jordan) because western women are impossible to satisfy. They're looking for the next dopamine rush and can't stay with one man for too long. I don't believe in self improving only to stay the west if your goal is a to get a long term rela…
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 08:49 PM
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WTF does that even mean? You're just saying stupid stuff just for attention at this point.
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 12:07 AM
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Looks all day. The same behaviors are perceived differently when a good looking person does it vs when an average looking person does it vs when an ugly person does it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 12:05 AM
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r/BlackPillScience
/r/AllPillDebate08/06/23 12:03 AM
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Already gave up on American women. I exclusively date overseas.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 11:59 PM
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It would make things easier for men but not by much. Because out of those 75 men, most women would still go for 5 of them.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 07:42 PM
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"Charisma"? Or a good face?
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 06:26 PM
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They have to try to discredit you and make you seem like a loser who has no idea what they're talking about. Even if it was true it's just ad hominem. Science > Grass Toucher's anecdotes and insults. "but but but you're not interpreting the data right" is another gaslighting tactic. At least there's science there while all bluepillers seem to have is anecdotes.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:41 AM
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When you do find examples of a woman being a good women, hordes of other women shame her for it https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/3396732/trolled-housewife-making-husband-packed-lunch-every-day/ Face it, your kweenz are not perfect angels.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:59 PM
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They're not stating facts.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 09:31 PM
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Guys. Actually click the links in this post. Thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:14 PM
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Women have an abundance of options in the western world to the point where they can eliminate you based on petty things. I gave up on dating in the west because I got tired of playing minesweeper on dates. Stark contrast to a date I had in Colombia where I spilled something on my shirt, she wiped it off and still went to bed with me that same night. An American woman would call that ick, tell me there's no chemistry and never respond to my texts again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:09 PM
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I agree. Online spaces attract a lot of radical feminists and/or straight up misandrists. Look no further than femaledatingstrategy.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 07:36 PM
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It's a meme created by women to hide their true shallow cruel nature.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 06:40 PM
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Reminds me of the concept of "icks" that went viral on tiktok a few months ago. They have so many options that they can eliminate men based off the stupidest silliest shit.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 04:17 PM
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Enough of them are the same to the point where some men have bodycounts approaching 1000 while others have zero. There are outlier women who like ugly, weird, or neurodivergent men but they're just that. Outliers. Making decisions based on outliers is stupid. Would you press a button that has a 99% chance of killing you but a 1% chance of rewarding you with a million dollars? Probably not. It's a lot smarter to approach the dating market based on what the majority of women are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:21 AM
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A lot. I had friends with high standards and they'd clown me about the girls I found attractive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:15 AM
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STEM majors tend to be greasy, unkempt, fat or scrawny or just plain ugly. Sub 4 whites struggle in 2023 for sure. But white guys in the 4-7 range have it much better than ethnics in the 4-7 range. You may think black men are the most attractive but you are in the minority of women.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 03:44 PM
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They're men who genetically got the short end of the stick and they're unfairly stigmatized because of a minority of crazies like Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian. They're also constantly gaslit that they reason they're incel is because of some moral failing when really it's because of either their physical apperance or because of their neurodivergence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:07 PM
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Women percieve white men as having higher status as historically they conquered a bunch of shit and are kind of the face of America/Canada/Western Europe i.e wealthy nations. It has very little to do with attractivness. I've personally witnessed black women having very high physical standards for their own race of men while simping over fat dorky looking white guys with tape over their glasses.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 02:11 AM
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A lot of men, formerly myself included, tie their self esteem to their notch count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:54 AM
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The fact that men swipe right on more than half of women and that women swipe right on less than 5% should tell you that that women have high standards. The fact that twice as many young men than young women are single should tell you that women have high standards The fact that there were muliple time periods in the past where only minority of men reproduced but almost all women still reproduced should tell you that women have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:51 AM
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Bluepillers and their anecdotes There's a reason there is very little peer reviewed science supporting the bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:38 AM
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The economic collapse thing seems likely in the near future.
/r/MensRights31/05/23 10:33 PM
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If you're 6 feet and struggle with women the problem is either your face or your neurodivergent brain.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 10:00 PM
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Got banned for the same thing except for me it was only for a month.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 09:59 PM
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8+
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:10 PM
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If you're autistic and sub 8 in looks there's no hope for you when it comes to western women.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 08:30 PM
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That's hypergamy for ya.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 08:22 PM
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Buddy boyo it’s 2023. Most people do not cold approach. I would actually argue the opposite which is that only autistic weirdos who have yet to get the memo that it’s outdated.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 12:48 AM
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Women don’t even make an effort to hide how shallow they are anymore in most cases. They only deny it when they want to gaslight you after you as a man point it out or if you say something they don’t like.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 12:37 AM
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Wow guess it’s even worse than I thought
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 05:08 PM
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Self improving only to stay in the west is shooting yourself in the foot. Self improve, get your money up, hit the gym and become a passport bro. This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:45 AM
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Fr. Actual 9/10s have much better things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:40 AM
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I don't give a flying fuck to be honest. If I like a girl and I'm trying to get to know her I'm not gonna pretend I don't. That's just stupid. I hate playing these stupid games. That's why I love dating in Colombia. I can be very direct with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:36 AM
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If a guy can't get a single match on a dating app, he's not a 7/10. He's a sub 5. I'm a 6 on a good day and even in the United States I get a couple dozen likes in the first day. A legit good looking guy gets hundreds of likes in the first day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:29 AM
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IMO it's not worth it. I became a passport bro because I didn't want to become some loud dancing monkey clown to make up for the fact that I'm not a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 05:25 AM
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Facts. The hottest girl you've seen in the past couple of weeks has probably been flown out by an NBA player or something. You have to compete with literal celebrities for girls 8/10 and up.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 05:17 AM
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I've only been to Rio and I've never personally met any Brazillian Japanese women. They're a small portion of the population from what I've heard.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 02:22 AM
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I personally like to just visit Colombia and Brazil every so often and hookup with the women there. I get my masculine needs met with minimal headaches.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 07:13 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iqt3k4n6NM Skip to 3:08. This is all the proof you need that looks not only matter to women but they go out of their way to treat men they find unattractive like shit. Looks matter to women above all else.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 06:10 PM
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Your gut is smarter than you think. In the vast majority of cases it protects you from dangerous and/or humiliating situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:16 AM
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Yes. The harder you work to get a woman's affection then generally the worse she will treat you. More men are waking up to this reality. Who do you think women would treat better in a relationship? The 9/10 Chad with high testosterone and a big sausage who actually has women approaching him? Or the 4/10 with erectile dysfunction problems from low T who can only get women by flashing resources and being an entertaining dancing monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:14 AM
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I never fell for the femcel meme. I've seen lagoon creatures who were able to get married and have multiple children. Femcel = volcel.
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 02:05 PM
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United States or Canada. Two easiest countries for women to date in the world.
/r/AllPillDebate21/05/23 02:00 AM
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Dad bod is ideal boyfriend The 10% bodyfat shredded guy is who she cheats with Dual mating strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:25 AM
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True. PUAs were huge in the late 2000s and early 2010s and they would do things such as post staged videos of fat guys getting girls' numbers to convince you that looks didn't matter and that all you needed was confidence and game. Women would often repeat the "just be confident" lie because it was an easy convenient way to make themselves seem less shallow. Both sexes participated equally in the gaslighting which I believe was part of a grand scheme by the elites.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:17 AM
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It's for this reason I never believed in the "Just be confident bro" advice that was shoved down my throat for much of the late 2000s/early 2010s when I was going through high school and college
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:14 AM
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There is an out. It's called getting a passport and going to a more patriarchal country.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 10:06 PM
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I'm going to make the argument that average looking, neurotypical, highly extroverted men are the least affected by the changes in the dating market over the last 10 years. Social circle game is still very effective. The rise of dating apps and social media is gives women more options to pick from. Tinder allows women to see just how horny and desperate men can get. Instagram exposes them to very wealthy and/or very physically attractive men that they wouldn't have had access to otherwise. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:50 PM
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My beef with women goes beyond stacy from high school not being attracted to me. What I have a bigger problem with is women not being upfront about how they feel and how they string men along for benefits such as money or even just validation. I've also witnessed how women can be needlessly cruel to ugly men just for EXISTING. Especially in high school.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 09:24 PM
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I agree with most of what you're saying except for the bit about attractiveness. You do need to meet a physical attractiveness threshold for women to want to sleep with you without without giving them your resources
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 12:27 AM
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They don't have to try because society will have their back. All women have to say is "that's not true men are just mean and socially awkward" and society will agree.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:15 PM
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It would cause a lot of men to give up and drop out of society which is why society is trying to suppress the blackpill so hard.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 03:15 PM
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Eggs will always be more valuable than sperm. It is what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 03:11 PM
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Because women actually LIKE when you treat them like trash: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:55 PM
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It's giving I have no good counterargument so I'm going to to resort ad-hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:48 PM
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Gives women access to very rich and/or physically attractive men they wouldn't have had access to other wise. Also instagram has a culture of judging a man's worth based on his follower count or the type of pictures he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:22 PM
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"just be confident" "learn game"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:55 PM
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This is the correct answer. Instagram is the real culprit of fucking things up for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:54 PM
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High social intelligence with an optimized personality can even help a 5/10 looking man find a girlfriend or find love easier, even someone who is more attractive than he is. Maybe if the guy he's competing with is a 6/10. If the guy is an 8/10 then no amount of "muh confidence" can help you outcompete him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:46 PM
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"You just need to be more confident bro" - both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:43 PM
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If you're average or below it hurts your SMV more than it would if you were Chad tier.
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 03:43 PM
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Everyone in this thread is playing stupid as if women don't deny how important looks are to them on the daily.
/r/AllPillDebate17/05/23 01:09 PM
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This act reinforces the idea that your sexual worth is less than that of a woman It's something you have to accept like gravity.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 09:17 PM
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Point is looks matter just as much to women even though men are gasliit to believe otherwise
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 09:15 PM
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Updated OP to make the point more clear.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 08:49 PM
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Also rad_feminist. Not sure if they're from IT but the username screams troll.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 08:49 PM
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Nah
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 08:47 PM
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IT is full of incels in denial. They would always say things such as "I'm a 30 year old virgin but at least I'm not an incel". On the flipside there are many "incels" that were exposed for being fakecels because they had standards (e.g not wanting landwhales) or have actually had sex before. These types of guys get banned from the incel forums regularly for being fakecels. Most "incels" are men who are not satisfied with the caliber of women they can attract. I would fall into the latter categor…
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 07:27 PM
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"men deserve it for being oppressive to women for all these years" - feminists probably
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 07:10 PM
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I do notice that 8 and above women tend to care more about status and $$$ and less about looks when it comes to partner selection. I still think they still sleep with Chad on the side when nobody's looking but for LTR they will choose a rich no so attractive simp over the Chad. They want to look like the pretty one in the relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 07:05 PM
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Women have to keep up the facade that they're innocent oppressed angels that can do no wrong. It's how they keep getting more and more right and power in society.
/r/MensRights15/05/23 05:16 PM
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I have no problem finding women in other countries that will sleep with me free of charge though. It's only in America where women will nitpick any reason not to sleep with me because "men bad and untrustworthy hurr durr" But yeah keep sitting on your ass and not approaching men only so you can complain that they don't approach you just to subject themselves to being interrogated because you're trying to find "icks"
/r/AllPillDebate15/05/23 12:52 PM
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This is why men become passport bros. Foreign women actually crave stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:50 AM
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Problem is those women still expect men to throw themselves at them like they did years ago. They can't have their cake and eat it too.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 07:09 PM
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Never said they were trad wives. Just that they were better at flirting.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 05:11 AM
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Nice try but I've slept with multiple normal Colombian women who didn't charge me at all.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 04:51 AM
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I remember seeing studies a while back showing that they do.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 04:45 AM
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I'm black myself and I'm just telling you what I see. I see a lot of black men dating women well below their league.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 03:23 AM
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Because most black men will fuck anything. If the average white man was as horny as the average black man it wouldn't be a competition. The white guy would get laid way more and with higher quality of women. Most white men won't touch a woman more than 15lbs overweight while shredded black dudes are with 200 pounders.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 02:08 AM
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Just no. Not with the way that ethnic women fetishize white men.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 02:04 AM
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With what quality of women? Most black men are smashing fatties.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 02:03 AM
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An ethnic man has to be a 7/10 to have the same SMV as a 5/10 white man.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 12:56 AM
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Westernized people are trending towards genetic extinction both men and women. Thank goodness. Kill toxic western culture.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 12:54 AM
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Being ugly and/or neurodivergent is the biggest offense you can commit in the eyes of most people. Our society has less smoke for literal murderers given they're at least average looking and NT.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 12:25 AM
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Yes. The dating market becoming more brutal is also backed up by hard data (e.g washington post) but everyone tries to explain it away with alternative explanations other than the obvious conclusion staring them in the face because it shatter their "women are wonderful" fallacy. Even self proclaimed "blackpillers" are guilty of this. I hate these simps.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 12:22 AM
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Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:11 AM
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In about half (50%) of couple I see the guy mogs the girl. For a little less than half let's say 45% they're looksmatchd. The remaining 5% the girl mogs the guy.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 04:49 AM
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Face > Height
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 04:47 AM
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My mom is against me losing bodyfat and gaining muscle. She literally told me I look better chubby which is true for not a single male on earth.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:19 PM
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Some men are just hard wired to simp regardless of what "pill" they identify with. Many men can talk a big game until a woman who's exactly their type is nice to them. Then they lose their minds. Not simping takes an incredible level of self control in some situations.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 02:07 AM
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It really is. So many guys would have their self esteem saved by taking a trip to Colombia, Thailand, or the Phillipines. They'd realize they're not as ugly as they think and that American women have artificially inflated physical standards.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 01:56 AM
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All three together, yes. Being tall alone doesn't do jack shit if you're non NT with an ugly face.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 01:49 AM
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That's what I do and the best part is I have a rotation of cute fit girls down there that let me hit for free pretty much. Stark contrast to America where the only women who let me fuck them for free are obese.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 01:47 AM
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Try bottom 30%
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 01:41 AM
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I agree that it will collapse but not because men can't get laid. Even if the incel problem got solved society would still be in danger. The level of inflation alone is unsustainable.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 01:40 AM
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Don't fearmonger like that. Yes, men get drugged. But that's easily avoidable if you exercise just a little bit of caution.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 12:47 AM
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There are also several studies that pretty much come to the conclusion that most women chase a minority of men. For example, the study that showed that twice as many young men as young women were single. But redditors love to think of any explanation under the sun except for the one that's staring them in the face. Peak gaslighting and/or coping.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 07:54 PM
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...all after they're past their prime years when they've put on a few lbs and their skin isn't as smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:17 PM
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That's exactly his point. OP is saying many women do indeed want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:15 PM
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I've seen 5'6" overweight men with no job walking with women I could only dream of having. Why? Crininal record. Womens' looks standards mostly only apply to law abiding citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:10 PM
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Or just get their passport and leave these women to ruin their own lives while good men get women that can appreciate them in another country. I'll be damned if I pretend to be someone I'm not to get access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:07 PM
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Not all men are willing to risk jail time to become attractive to women. Also, many of these ugly men who get women are natural born psychopaths, which most men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:10 PM
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Imagine thinking that some guy who shoots another guy for stepping on his shoe isn't going to direct that same energy towards you when you do something he doesn't like. Peak delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:09 PM
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If you want proof that they do search "i only date hood" on YouTube. Hood guys are a euphemism for ghetto criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:07 PM
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It made me less sympathetic if anything. I saw my sister actively chase terrible POS men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:57 PM
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Women are just trying to use shame to sway the opinions of men they find attractive. Kind of like fat acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:54 PM
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I believe having to always be the one approaching women puts you in a deficit. As much as some people don't like to admit it, men who women consider desirable are the ones getting pursued, approached, and chased. Having to approach women means more than likely you'll have to prove yourself while she sits on her ass judging you and looking for icks. For example, in Colombia, where my SMV is considerably higher, I can date a new woman every day without having to approach a single woman. Famous men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:11 PM
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It's extremely rare IRL. Anyone telling you it isn't is trying to gaslight you into thinking you're a uniquely incompetent failure of a human being. Female matchmakers have quit because their clients were too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:34 PM
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I mean there are also plenty of male model looking dudes that are just a a healthy/lean weight and not particularly super muscular. Women look at those all day. Especially if she has tiktok. Fat women shoot their shot at fit men often and sometimes guys don't want to deal with their looksmatch because she will be more demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:30 PM
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Taking this into consideration, I've came to the conclusion that women probably aren't attracted to people who have it all figured out under the impression they'd be very demanding partners. ​ Honestly I think women are increasingly becoming like this. I'm not gonna lie, I feel some time of way when I see a short, fat, broke guy with a beautiful women. It's not a common occurrence but when I see it I can't help but feel she just wants to be the one in power. There are many attractive men she cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:56 PM
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Pure projection. What you said applies to women and not men. I'm always seeing fat women with tall fit men. You don't think women have just as much access to looking at images of male models and shredded steroid meatheads online? Male self improvement channels have hundreds and thousands of subs on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:35 PM
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Hard to believe when you have hundreds of videos of paranoid women in the gym freaking out about a man looking in her direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:34 PM
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Womens' intution works when the guy is unattractive. If he makes the kitty kat tingle all that shit goes out of the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:34 AM
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It makes sense when you're not trying to gaslight men into believing women aren't extremely picky. They are going for the same men. Multiple other studies suggest the same. Never multiple men going for the same women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:12 PM
2

Yeah, especially in the west and especially if she doesn't see you as her best option. I think being a dancing monkey is demoralizing so I date overseas where conversation flows naturally on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:51 AM
1

Jesus that tik tok sounds brutal. Men are being taught to simp extremely hard causing women to expect men to be walking ATMs. The west is doomed.
/r/MensRights30/04/23 04:20 AM
1

Sounds like an easy way to get used for your money and get rationed out starfish sex (best case scenario).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:08 PM
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Face > Height
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:24 AM
3

If you have to lower yourself to jestermaxxing (what I call game/flirting/rizz) she doesn't like or respect you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:23 PM
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Before video games the losers in society would just occupy themselves with something else (e.g comic books) Blaming video games is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:13 AM
3

This is exactly why I got my passport and only date in Colombia. Dating there is very straightfoward. If you get a girl's number and don't call her or go too long without texting she'll wonder what the fuck is wrong with you. Being direct and simple with your intentions works very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:06 AM
2

The fundamental issue with dating advice directed at men is that the importance of physical attractiveness is heavily downplayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:53 AM
1

Let her strong independent ass deal with it. Just like the girl in the viral gym video who couldn't lift the weight.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 07:42 PM
2

Most redpill dating coaches are selling ugly men a dream and should not be trusted under any circumstances. Almost all of them don't practice what they preach as they are married to unattractive women and are in open relationships (open for her while he has to beg her for sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:08 PM
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You need both a passport and blackpill knowledge. Women in foreign countries still have eyes so if you are a fat old balding 50 year old man trying to date a young hot woman you're in for disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 05:23 PM
1

It's not scary but ineffective. Women have seen it all before and can see right through it. In the vast majority of cases they make up their minds before your goofy ass even opens your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:49 PM
13

It's simple really. Men are horny and will smash anything that isn't hideous. Women are evolutionary incentivized to want the best they can get because they have to carry a child for nine months and doing it with a lesser male is costly. Men on the other hand can have multiple children a day so fucking a 3/10 is not as evolutionary risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:48 PM
0

It's for this reason I don't fault men for "cheating" in the dating market. Becoming a passport bro, anabolic steroids, plastic surgery. These things combined are extremely effective in raising a man's SMV to the point that they can overcome extreme handicaps like being born on the spectrum. but are demonized by society at large because they upset the status quo. A man who lacks positive reinforcement from women in his formative years are at a huge disadvantage and need all the help they can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:43 PM
1

Yes. It's called having self respect and control which may involve being willing to go without sex for long periods of time. Some of us would rather be sexless than chase women constantly like a desperate puppy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:59 PM
2

The idea that an average looking guy with "game" can out perform a good looking guy with no "game" when it comes to attracting women. When I say good looking I mean top 1-2%. Those men live on a completely different planet when it comes to how women treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:16 PM
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Problem is many modern women want more than just provision. They want a guy making 300k so they can buy her the lastest fancy purse or w/e bullshit lifestyle they want. Even then that isn't a guarantee that she'll be submissive and respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:07 PM
1

Yup. If you watch mainstream news you'd get the impression that men are assaulting and killing women all day every day. But for every woman that gets murdered there are like 15 men that don't get reported on.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 01:45 AM
1

Game is cope, period. Just a distraction from the elephant in the room which is physical attractivness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:13 PM
1

Numbers game probably. Also you probably have to lower your standards a bit. I've had women want to jump my bones as an average looking man but they were few and far between and both of them were not the most aesthetically gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:10 PM
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Usually how it works from what I've seen is one of two ways: You get introduced to a friend of a friend You go to social events in groups and mingle with other groups of women ​ Asking out your friends usually isn't how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:11 PM
3

He said himself the whole thing is pointless if you're not going to move overseas. We're not dumb enough to bring her back here so she can go and fuck Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:26 PM
4

lol at this obvious fearmongering.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:34 PM
2

That's the thing. Not all of these couples are having regular sex. Dead bedrooms are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:33 PM
5

Women under this post in a nutshell: We will never admit to wanting to share the top 5% of men and taking advantage of the other 95% of men to get them to simp for us. So we will blame the mans "muh personality" like we always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:23 PM
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Struggling =/= unable to get sex at all. The effort to reward ratio is very unfavorable to the average western man. Almost any guy can get laid if he lowers his standards, simps hard enough, jestermaxxes hard enough etc. But what is he getting out of it? Most average men I see in public are with women below them in looks who don't even look that excited to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:16 PM
7

Muh personality. Ok chad chaser
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:08 PM
5

Passport bros are up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:17 PM
1

They know damn well but they have to keep their oribiters in the rat race.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:17 PM
4

She really exposed herself on that one. That's why I never EVER take women seriously when they try to downplay the importance of a man's looks. She won't even watch a video from him because of the way he looks. Just imagine what she looks for when looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:00 PM
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Let these women talk long enough or let them get angry enough and they expose themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:58 PM
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Telling men that women are "naturally" attracted to them is dangerous misinformation that sets men up for disappointment. A woman has zero attraction to the typical average looking male stranger that she doesn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:51 PM
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This is survivorship bias. For every "unremarkable" guy you seen holding hands with a woman there are 10 more who can't cant any. Usually these are the guys that are neurotypical, on the extroverted side, and most importantly they kept building up their social networks from a young age. Having a diverse expansive social network with lots of connections that include people that know a lot of people is a huge benefit in the dating market. Someone who's not neurotypical and moved around a lot isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:39 PM
2

Being persistent in this day and age will get the cops called on you. Ick is the least of your worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:28 PM
10

Great comment. Most of us don't want to get rejected 500 times to find the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:27 PM
2

You're a man, girls are naturally attracted to you No they are not. Girls need a reason to like a man. A man needs a reason to like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:23 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. The successful men you see on the street are those that are lucky enough to have a large, expansive, diverse, well connected social circle. You don't see the majority of men that are not so lucky. Survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:18 PM
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It's going to decline but not necessarily because of AI. The primary catalyst IMO is the fact that a lot of men are so frustrated with dating that they're not even trying. Women have noticed as they complain about how men don't approach as much anymore. The number of sexually frustrated men is growing and a large proportion of them are going to pursue alternative solutions. Some will do the AI thing. Others will just go to prostitutes or become sugar daddies. Others will become video game addict…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:10 PM
3

Maybe. Maybe not. Old copes die hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:23 AM
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Porn, only fans, content creators, video games, AI etc. are all working together to pacify men. If none of these copes existed, a lot of things would be getting set on fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:49 PM
0

This is the worst case of goal post shifting I've ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:52 PM
0

Having a vagina is the only cheat code women need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:50 PM
0

Perfectly describes the United States and Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:45 PM
1

No but getting to single digit bodyfat with the sole purpose of having more chiseled bone structure is in line with the blackpill because of the emphasis it places on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:27 PM
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Nope. Many men have successfully looksmaxed, usually by losing bodyfat and putting on muscle, to become more attractive to the opposite sex. You're assuming that all redpillers and blackpillers have a defeatist mindset which has nothing to do with any of the pills. Non-defeatist blackpillers use the knowledge they have gained to looksmax and fuck the fat oofy doofy goofy goober bluepilled normie's girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:23 PM
1

I gotta agree with this. I just want a woman under age 35 that is at least average looking in the face that isn't fat. But that's impossible for me to get in the west without jumping through hoops because I have an average looking face and I don't have a very good social circle. I go to Colombia and all of a sudden I can get my looksmatch with virtually zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:18 PM
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People 33 and up have a skewed perspective of dating and I will die on this hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:00 PM
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I want to add that it seems to be mostly a North American and European phenomenon. When I go to Colombia the amount of couples where the guy is the sane height or even shorter than the woman is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:57 PM
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The lengths people on this sub go through to refuse to admit that women standards are increasingly becoming unattainable for more and more men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:52 PM
1

Obviously not everyone who tries will be successful. I'd actually say most won't. But it's worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:35 AM
1

Men can try harder in the sense that they can build themselves up and become more attractive. But other than that I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:06 AM
5

It's pointless because there's no way to verify if she's telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:18 AM
9

Yeah I'd have to agree. A good social circle is the ONLY way an average guy can get anywhere with his looksmatch. People who tell you that an average looking guy can up and go to a mall and pull a baddie by being confident are gaslighting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:15 AM
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Because if you want a woman below 200lbs Chadlite doesn't cut it on dating apps. You need to be at least a 9/10 full blown Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:08 AM
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We just want women to admit they go for hot guys instead of saying that personality is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 09:31 PM
2

You have stats like this and people on this sub say "HURR A 5 CAN GET A 7 ALL HE NEEDS IS TO GO TO A MALL AND SHOW HIS PERSONALITY"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 06:07 AM
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Replace step 1 with men getting their passports and refusing to date western (us/uk/canadian/etc) women. Leave step 2 as is. Then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:50 AM
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It's amazing how there's so much gaslighting on this sub on how supposedly easy it is to attract women when all the data out there is showing the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:33 AM
8

Just have a personlity bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:29 AM
0

Yes there is. It's called getting a passport and going to Colombia and writing in your tinder bio that you're from the US/UK/Canada. Thank me later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:24 AM
1

I'd say they do about equally well. Never seen a male model or a gang member that couldn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 03:24 AM
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If you're a normie the former. If you're a Chad, the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 11:18 PM
3

Yup. I welcome it with open arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:38 PM
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Facts. Being 6'1" and with a muscular v-taped shaped upper body gives me a massive advantage in Colombia in spite of my average looking face. In the west I'm just another guy who goes to the gym that happens to be a bit taller than average. So I still have to prove myself just to get an average looking woman to sleep with me. In colombia, sleeping with an average looking woman is effortless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:21 PM
1

Women generally don’t see an aesthetically attractive man and want to have sex with him. Men in the top 1-2% in looks pretty much don't have to do anything except not be a complete idiot or psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:14 PM
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They already do if you're physically attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:54 AM
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Is there anything the average (or below average tbh) guy can do to tip the balance back in his favour? ​ If you're average I recommend getting your passport and going to a country where the US dollar has a favorable exchange rate, where there is no welfare state and no radical feminism. If you're legit ugly even that might not help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:05 PM
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Western women give faux choosing signals to boost their egos. Thanks to extreme radical feminism, they know that most men wouldn't approach them otherwise so they have to give guys bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:56 PM
1

Borderline personality disorder to be specific. I dated one and this is exactly how it went.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:47 PM
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These women have Borderline/Narcisisstic personality disorder. I dated a borderline who admitted she had it and this is exactly how she behaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:42 PM
13

Not on me. There's no faster way a woman can turn me off and make me move on than ignoring my texts, flaking, not reciprocating etc. I once read about a woman rejecting a guy and then getting mad because he didn't pursue her further. That shit made my blood boil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:38 PM
1

Down bad: the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:17 AM
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It means jack shit if you don't meet her minimum requirements for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:04 AM
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The mental gymnastic copes never end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:35 AM
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In the case of a man approaching a woman and her rejecting him, I'd agree with you. But when you say that looks is by far the most important aspect of attraction they will all come out of the woodwork and try to shoot you down with anecdotes when a simple Tinder or Omegle experiment proves them wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:42 AM
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Its sad the lengths I’ve seen some go through on this sub to deny that women are incredibly picky. Time and time again data points to this conclusion. Whether it be a Tinder/online dating study or a survey. There is never evidence of men all going after one woman. Never evidence of make and female sexlessness being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:12 AM
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and women are more logical than men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:45 AM
3

The idea that male SMV peaks at 30+ one of the the biggest lies ever told to men. It's on par with "just be confident" and "All men pay for sex",
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:25 AM
-1

American women just want to control the men they deem as undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:57 PM
11

99% of women are not going to like a guy who is shorter than her in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:54 PM
1

Blackpilled men cannot be friendzoned. The bluepill is more dangerous for men than the blackpill ever could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:52 PM
1

I can vouch for this as an autistic man. I get told I'm attractive (though I doubt it based on my tinder results) but I don't have much luck dating in America. Colombia is a different story. I feel like the women there are much more direct communicators and are a lot more calm and level headed. So dating there is much easier. I've never had sex with a decent looking woman in America without giving her financial assistance upfront. Different story in Colombia. Currently dating a beautiful Colombi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:52 PM
1

Men can be beauty objects as well. It's just that an extremely small number of men can attract women based off of looks alone. Alex from target went viral just for existing and being a pretty boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:43 PM
3

Many Chads get one night stands. They match with a girl off tinder. They invite her over or go to her place. They bang without any money being exchanged. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:59 PM
1

Forgetting the fact that this guy hasn’t done any work himself, As he feels a woman SHOULD be attracted to him anyway and that she should have literally put the work in to change her mindset and find him attractive, then he’s still the same guy and there will be resentment there that this dude who refuses to change and improve and become a more attractive and better partner has just sat there waiting for his future partners attraction to him to ferment like a wine. Many men like myself have put …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:50 PM
2

I did all those things and I still have to deal with women who flake and lead me on for attention. So I got my passport and started dating in countries where women have more reasonable standards and don't flake nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:36 PM
6

This is just smoke and mirrors because on tiktok you have legions of women insulting them and calling them uneducated and dirty. It's gotten to the point where women from the phillipines are clapping back and defending themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:18 PM
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When the dusties leave it means No more free steak dinners at fancy restaurants No betabux backup plans for when they hit 35 have 9 kids and are 100lbs overweight No "low value" men to reject and/or lead on to boost their egos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:44 PM
3

Men may have the upper hand but at the same time our intentions aren't sinister. It's about self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:39 PM
1

"shit husband" is subjective and decided at the woman's whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:34 PM
3

More to escape the unfair advantage that women have over men in the west
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:33 PM
2

Every woman has her own definition of "unsalvageable"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:33 PM
2

Yep. I know what the OP is implying with these options. I'm wondering if anyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:13 AM
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Women in the west can also divorce a guy because they're suddenly bored and walk out with half his shit. You all are only upset because men have the upper hand as opposed to the west where women have the upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 02:52 AM
0

Which proves the point Alwaysaloneforever97 is trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:24 PM
6

It isn't. Mr. Normie has to jump through way more hoops for his looksmatch. Chad just has to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:19 PM
4

In my simp days, I spent way too much money on a woman who wasn't attracted to me. She let me have sex with her but I clearly wasn't a priority for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:17 PM
1

You will not get attractive women to consistently want to actually meet up in the west unless you look like a male model and have a six pack
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:56 PM
1

I think it's because women relaxed their standards after being pent up for a while. From mid 2021 to about mid 2022, I saw a lot more "ugly" dudes with women than I did in 2019. Over the past six months, I've noticed less of these ugly guy cute girl couples. I have a strong feeling it'll go back up soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:44 PM
3

Thank you for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:39 PM
3

If you're a high functioning autistic male living in the west you BETTER be at least an 8/10. If not you're pretty much doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:23 PM
1

Are you implying that not being neurotypical makes you not a good person?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:17 PM
2

Move to a country where welfare and feminism (3rd wave and beyond) are virtually non-existent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:37 PM
13

The only answer that isn't cope. If the OP was attractive he would not be asking this question because women would open themselves up to him via choosing signals. He'd also do very well on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:25 PM
1

I believe this to be true. I didn’t start attracting women until i put on muscle and lowered my body fat percentage significantly. My mom would tell me I’m getting too skinny even though I am also muscular and on the upper end of the healthy bmi range.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:18 AM
1

If you have autism you have to either compensate either by being Chad or having lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:33 PM
1

Just a couple in an few hours with Chad? Jesus, it's really getting bad.
/r/Chadfish23/06/19 04:54 PM
1

JFL at using online dating as a non white. Tyrones can still do decent IRL from what I've seen tho.
/r/Chadfish17/06/19 05:43 PM
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