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We want you to realize that you simply do not have the perspective or lived experiences to understand the problems men face. We know you don't have a "magic spell" or whatever. The best takeaway from all of these threads is for you to walk away thinking "I don't know what it's like to be a man and I am not in a position to tell them what to do."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:33 PM
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I'm just a shittier version of a woman, I guess. I'm here struggling with such immature things while paragons of virtue strut around scoffing at my untenable insecurities and lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:23 PM
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My bad for feeling like shit for being treated like a sub-human. I guess it's easy for you to say that when you just assume I'm some "indiscriminate horndog".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 11:18 PM
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Some of you ladies wouldn't last 48 hours as a man without going into some sort of psychosis istg. You really have no idea what it is like to be guilty until proven innocent and everyone putting up their cold, impersonal shields hoping you fuck off because they are scared of you. Like, you truly have no idea what sort of privilege you hold as a woman when you decide to engage with any sort of social situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:02 AM
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As someone that went hard learning salsa/bachata for 1 year, I know this feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:07 AM
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This is all highly optimized rage bait for the sole purpose of engagement. Women want men and men want women. IDC about your traumas on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:30 PM
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I think the thing not clicking for everyone is why do we have to try so hard to meet each other? I highly doubt my great grandpa was min/maxing his fucking hobbies to meet his wife at 17 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:27 PM
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People absolutely care about your level of sexual activity. It's not only important to the man; it's important to everyone else. We (both men and women) place immense value in a man's ability to induce lust in women. You might as well be subhuman if you can't. This dysfunction in men didn't spawn in randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:46 PM
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A man's sexual prowess is praised by both men and women. A woman's purity is praised by both men and women. Double standards exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:38 PM
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You're blaming the man for being offended by the insult. The other replies to your comment are right: you would not use a racial slur and then justify it by saying "it works so it's ok". The fact you so quickly dismiss men's lived experience of shame means you simply don't care about how other people feel. I'm sure you would be quick to jump to the defense of a woman being shamed for being childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:36 PM
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The default feeling I have towards every woman is that she is not sexually interested in me. It's very rare to encounter one who is. There is also an oppressive amount of shame both internal and external about it. I simply do not pursue women with any amount of effort. She has to make it extremely obvious to me for that kind of machinery to start working within me because there is only so much failure you can tolerate before you adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:52 PM
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Being in a position to indulge in casual sex is the rite of passage for men because it proves they've acquired the ultimate proof of their worth: female lust. We live in an incredibly dysfunctional society where such a thing can exist. I do not think what you describe is an innate feature of men, but one artificially induced by societal shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:42 PM
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Thank you for your reasonable take. People who feel shame for being a virgin and those who use it as an insult have simply bought into the cultural idea that only a woman's lust can prove a man's worth. It's incredibly dysfunctional, especially in raising actually effective and attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:39 PM
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The latter guy is primarily motivated by the shame of being sexually unsuccessful. It didn't manifest out of nothing: it came from his social environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:30 PM
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This is simply victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:25 PM
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Why TF he using the color for women then 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:28 PM
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She just means that women have an easier time getting sex. Don't think too hard about when people say ridiculous things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 01:22 PM
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Once you realize the hypocrisy I stated, you lose interest in pursuing those kinds of women. If you have a problem with that, you're gonna have to criticize the women that lie to themselves about being happily single whom have similar gripes with men. Men are allowed to bitch and complain much like those women. Besides, you're basically admitting that women are quasi-prostitutes with different rates for different men. You're implying that love isn't actually real. You're advocating for a strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:03 AM
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The rite of passage for boys to become men is how much female lust they can induce. It's sad but literally everyone has adopted this standard for men and it is deeply baked in our culture, language and relationships. Men have a very good reason to be obsessed with women as there is an oppressive amount of shame of not being up-to-code. You have to be incredibly self-aware and secure in yourself in order to move past this. Most people's solutions is to simply be attractive to women since the form…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:22 AM
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I mean, some men can. The apps make it very easy for those with the pre-requisites.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:13 AM
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Many men are miffed at the reality that women throw themselves at men who treat them horribly while simultaneously saying things very similar to your OP. You're basically saying that you should financially invest in a woman who would fuck someone else in a shitty car in a sketchy bar parking lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:12 AM
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Most of what you see is them giving up, not comfort lol. When we appreciate men for their accomplishments, it's because we try to not trap them like we're trap ourselves, we evaluate will rather than genetics, This is extremely tone deaf in this era, where men feel like all women care about is genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:47 AM
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mega truth nuke. I would even extend your point to say that previous avenues to meet women are now poisoned in a similar way. Being a lone single man at a concert/event/bar/etc is a massive hurdle to overcome if you want to meet people, particularly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:06 PM
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You're technically right on all counts. From some guy's perspective, what he sees on social media might as well be "one person" (it obviously isn't). It might as well be one insane woman on his phone gaslighting him. It's going to affect the victim in the exact same way. So I guess in this situation it isn't gaslighting? IDK I don't really care about the semantics but I didn't know about the goomba fallacy that's very relevant in today's age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:35 AM
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Women are not very good at advising men on how to attract women. Women are very good at knowing whether or not someone is attractive. Those are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:07 AM
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The sentiment 100% changed from "Looks don't matter just be nice" to "Obviously you need to look good you're not entitled to anything just for being nice". That's gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:04 AM
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Yeah we all believe that you're slaying and simple go on PPD as a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:08 AM
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Some real narcissist energy ngl. It's okay not to have something valuable to say to everybody and to recognize that your lived experiences are different than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:05 AM
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Most people giving advice to vulnerable people who belong to "safe-to-bully" demographics are simply punching down and/or humble bragging. The moment you act out of line you will be eviscerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:55 PM
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What works for you is not necessarily what would work for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:54 PM
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There is also a ton of lust directed towards similarly criminal women and both demographics of men and women that do so are way too tiny to infer anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:33 AM
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Women are more likely to take risks when it comes to more attractive men; it's not necessarily about aggression or danger. Men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:24 AM
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Of course I have no right to tell anybody what they should want, but I find it to be very strange. If I met a woman that I loved a lot and wanted to marry, why wouldn't I want kids with her? It just doesn't make sense to me. I would definitely want to have kids with the woman that I love. My honest take on the matter is that there is a ton of baggage and trauma around the topic. It is quite insane how much pressure is placed on women to have kids, especially in a time where meeting the right man…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:07 AM
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They are only like that because they grew up inundated with insanity, basically. Recognizing the insanity is far more useful than blaming the individual, if you care about the individual advancing in achieving their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:50 AM
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When you grow up in this and it's all you know it's kinda hard not to just "self-induce" it. You're gonna have to hit a certain bitterness threshold before you start to challenge it within yourself. Although I think we agree in general, just wanted to make this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:42 AM
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We all need to collectively and simultaneously go outside and touch grass and be forced to do the uncomfortable work of learning to interact and god-forbid enjoy each other's company. Don't think that will happen anytime soon 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:21 AM
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Ok now do that but for women so it's even.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:50 AM
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I think if both parties go into this with very reasonable expectations then yes I think it would be very therapeutic. If the men are respectful of boundaries then what's the harm? I personally think it's rare for a man in such a situation to be the sort of dorky respectful guy that a woman would be willing to shack up with. Desperation for men to get a sexual conquest is too high for this to work publicly advertised, tbh. It's a shame. It only takes a few bad apples to spoil the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:51 AM
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I think it's gender discourse in the normie world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:49 AM
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I really wish we could all put aside our trauma and unite because we really all want the same thing but we wanna make an enemy out of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:46 AM
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People shouldn't restrict themselves like that. We need to be more honest with each other so we can calibrate to what is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:12 AM
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Yea true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:09 AM
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Yes I know that I wanted to exaggerate with the homies over a shared frustration and emotional pain-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:25 PM
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I, as a veteran internet boy, know exactly what kind of person you are. I've dealt with people like you often. You're not here to be a savior, you're here to punch down. You're here hoping that those you resent prostrate themselves to you for whatever gratification you get out of it. And trust me, many men are very well aware of people like you. You can start with working through your toxic beliefs that male virginity is intrinsically bad, to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:13 PM
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If I was a well-adjusted person with my needs met I wouldn't come here. Neither would you. Don't think you have anything over me or anyone else you choose to argue with. You can assume whatever you want about me, just don't think you're any better. And besides, what is wrong with not touching a woman? Why lash out at me with the toxic idea that not touching a woman is a bad quality? Are you some sort of object I need to conquer to prove myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:07 PM
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It's honestly disgusting how accepted this level of emotional abuse is. If that man does thoroughly prostrate himself to every dumbass giving him "advice" or accept whatever knee-jerk assumption of himself from others he will basically be pariahed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:36 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/4hstxqoll07g1.png?width=493&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e7bde9c016b8d314ff46b50b090fc74a8f141bd
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:29 PM
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God you really don't want to let go of shaming men for being womanless. You do you queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:25 PM
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Women have an awful capacity to empathize with this. I wish it was different, but she simply has no life experience that she can use to relate. They truly have nothing they can use to empathize with having ZERO prospects for extended periods of time. They just cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:22 PM
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I have a soft spot for them because that was me in my younger years. I guess my project my own trauma and pain onto them and just see that rather than whatever entry-level manosphere talking point they are spouting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:05 PM
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I do agree with you that emotionally stable, well-adjusted women absolutely want nothing to do with those types of men. I think many men here would say that they have lost trust in what women actually say regarding what they prefer in a sexual partner because they feel routinely betrayed and intentionally misled in their lived experience. There are definitely men who will read what you write and simply dismiss it thinking you're just saying what you wish was true for yourself, and the truth is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:57 PM
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That is literally what I am accusing you of. My point the entire time was: Bad male behavior is not correlated with sexual failure. You then made the claim of Bad male behavior is correlated with poor choice of mates. That is a different claim. Me agreeing with and entirely different claim is not moving goal posts. You refuse to acknowledge that your favorite way to shame men (lack of sex) is extremely toxic and simply wrong. You're uncomfortable knowing that shitheads are not barred from pussy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:53 PM
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We went from bad behavior = no women to bad behavior = low quality women. I mean, sure. But that is not what you initially wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:48 PM
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I don't care. The point is that it's just false to say that bad male behavior leads to female sexual disapproval. They simply are not as correlated as we'd all thought it was and the belief in it is toxic for all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:44 PM
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There are plenty of men who see women like that who are not single and struggling with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:41 PM
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Oh okay you're also as traumatized and resentful as the rest of us. Honestly I'm willing to have a heart-to-heart with you in order to figure out where we both are truly coming from, because it is painfully obvious that our assumptions about relationships are just completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:21 PM
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Yeah I've been an internet boy for a very long time and let me tell you the whole "I'm actually super happy and well-adjusted yet I spend my free time arguing with a niche group of emotionally hurt and resentful individuals online" angle isn't gonna convince anybody. Your princess attitude towards courtship is anachronistic and being cast aside for something better for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:14 PM
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You can believe this garbage all you want. The only person it will hurt is yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:01 PM
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This is precisely it. I'd like to also add that the western world's rite of passage for boys to become men is primarily how sexually attractive you are to women, which is creating a ton of dysfunctional men. Most manosphere content is a lashing out at this absurd rite of passage and the oppressive amounts of gaslighting and unreasonable demands placed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:14 PM
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It's not an impasse when those women are staunchly entitled. They should grow up and realize they are adults, not Disney princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:06 PM
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This is some trad larp nonsense. As nice as the idea of being a provider for women feels, doing that for some random you just met is cringe. Not to mention that there are plenty of women that weaponize this masculine ideal for their own selfish gain, you need to make her pay for her own shit and prove to you that she's worth providing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:02 PM
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Sure but murdering someone is an entirely different league.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:59 PM
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Sure but murdering someone is an entirely different league.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:59 PM
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Idk I cannot recall an instance of a woman ever using the term butthurt I'm kinda thinking you're a man here. Although I agree that woman's intuition is a load of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:16 PM
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You're taking the most extreme possible example of a boy's outcome and comparing it to... well, not that for girls. There are far better and more accurate comparisons, but I'm very curious why you chose that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:35 AM
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I really don't buy into this whole "Women can do just fine without men" nonsense that is paraded around. It's pure copium. The only ones who have any right to say that are people with a history of abusive partners and that's rooted in trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:42 AM
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I don't think many people are ready for the discussion on how warped women's minds have become from short-form content and the serious implications it has for dating. We've certainly explored that for men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:15 PM
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This really did a number on our collective psyches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:14 PM
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Men and women are in a deadlock. If men were consistently approaching and asking women out in the proper way despite women's current apprehension about it then over time we will see women being far more receptive to men because she knows that there will not be bad outcomes. This would cause women to become more warm and open to men, who will feel less lonely. However, asking men, especially developmentally stunted men, to be prodigal socialites/flirts with infinite patience and zero ego for exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:10 PM
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Way to invalidate people's lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:37 PM
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So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:59 PM
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Heavy stuff. I understand exactly what you're saying and I feel deeply from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:14 PM
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This is very well written.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:14 PM
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I need a reason to talk to her. It requires me to be a prodigal socialite to just manifest a good conversation from absolutely nothing. That is extremely difficult, so I don't do it. I just talk to women that I have a reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:47 PM
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I don't blame women for wanting to avoid such a man. I just wish our general society had better answers for the questions and issues these men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:16 PM
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You should tell them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:05 PM
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Single woman within your age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:58 PM
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I totally agree. Women should not be expected to do things they don't want to do in order to placate men. It wouldn't even help the men to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:07 AM
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Typically the angle they go for is entitlement. They will accuse you that you're entitled to women and blah blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:55 AM
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There are a few women on here that I def see myself getting along with. I want people on here to start sympathizing with each other and hooking up it would so cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:26 AM
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A lot of men feel like romance and sex are just not for them. Like, they aren't allowed to. They aren't real men, they aren't sexual beings. Women will never see them as sexual beings and will never desire them. They feel completely and unequivocally excluded from this fundamental human experience. This, as you can imagine, is a breeding ground for resentment and very toxic ideas. There are reasons why men get into this position, but most people are content with saying that the guy must have som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:05 AM
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I don't expect women to do anything in particular. I think truly understanding each other is the necessary step to make things better for everyone. This goes for men and women. To answer your question: really try your best to understand the male perspective. I say this for men too: truly try to understand the female perspective. There's a lot of valuable information on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:00 AM
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You have the perspective of a woman where you do have options, they just aren't what you want. Imagine actually having 0, truly 0. Not just 0 in your preference, but 0 in total.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:59 PM
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If you had to pick from two extremes, I would say yes. Ideally you'd be able to opt in and out between stability and opportunity depending on where you are in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:37 PM
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Yeah it's tough, thank you for understanding. I think there are a lot of factors that make the whole process artificially difficult, but nonetheless serve to induce misery for both parties despite them wanting the same outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:22 PM
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Most men don't have the social awareness or strength to ask women out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:13 PM
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You'd actually be fucking participating in life rather than observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:12 PM
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The problem I'm having here is that I genuinely agree with their core problems. Like, I really am acknowledging that after awhile it wouldn't be all that it's cracked up to be. But they just have such a difficult time even beginning to understand what it is like to be invisible. They refuse to even come halfway and acknowledge anything about it. It's so frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:02 PM
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I can imagine the immense amount of dread they would feel upon realizing they cant go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:54 PM
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Yeah I do mean that. People are online way too much and think dating apps or social media is a good replacement. It is not. It severely limits how many eligible partners you will meet. You have to be a social butterfly for awhile and make a hundred different connections to increase how many eligible partners you will encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:50 PM
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I agree with this sentiment. The main bottleneck for men is exposure to eligible women. The throughput of eligible women in a man's life is at an all-time low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:40 PM
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Sometimes yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:39 PM
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You know most men would read this and be insulted that you think being invisible is a privilege. Like, men in general try very hard to be seen and build attraction where failure is the norm and you're supposed to put up with it. But you see their experiences, their default, as some fun vacation from your norm of attracting attention, the very thing that they work so hard to get even a crumb of. Like, I truly understand that over time it would be exhausting to handle random attention and pursuits…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:38 PM
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I'm acknowledging that being harassed by randos isn't a good experience. I acknowledge that men would quickly realize that it's undesirable. I'm telling you that men would still sign up for it to get rid of the FOMO and actually experience any fucking shred of being wanted because a sizable amount of men have lived lives of total rejection where being unwanted and undesired is the norm and expecting anything more than that is seen as entitlement. And they would be better off experiencing this. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:36 PM
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They would be better off experiencing it than not. They would actually have one of the very few sexual experiences to learn from and form more accurate worldviews and self-perception. I've had horrible sexual experiences with very toxic women, but I am far better off than when I was a virgin. I acknowledge that it isn't actually an experience men would want in their daily life, but most men would readily sign up for it just to get a taste and actually participate in this for once, rather than si…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:27 PM
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A lifetime of rejection coupled with your entire life bombarded with media and cultural mores of romance and sex and internalizing that it's simply not something for you to engage in is something most, if not all women, can never understand. It's even at a point where a woman even trying to understand is just full of disgust and contempt towards it. This doesn't even get into the apparent double-standards and shaming directed towards men who make the mistake of complaining. I'm aware women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:24 PM
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A lot of guys are desperate enough for any sort of validation so yes that is what guys would want. Maybe after they get their fill they would get sick of it but right now yes. I don't think you understand just how devoid of validation men truly are. Not to mention that a man's social status revolves around how much female lust he can illicit, so I'm pretty sure he would be elated to get such attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:11 PM
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I think men (myself included ofc) feel like we're only worthwhile for utilitarian reasons and being someone that others want to use to get off sexually would be seen as validating and reassuring that we have value. So we apply that to women, who have a different idea of what self-worth looks like and thus this disconnect is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:04 PM
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Real shit. I think people truly underestimate just how much of a burden decades of rejection truly are. And of course any resentment towards it is met with gaslighting and ridicule, which takes a herculean amount of emotional growth and maturity (that most people never get close to achieving) to truly get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:57 PM
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Yeah I'll go to a dive bar as a single male and hit on women I'm sure that will work out for me God you have no clue at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:26 PM
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Women are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:46 PM
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And what makes you think I'm not doing the same? Especially considering I am able to precisely articulate the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:42 AM
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Most men are not dark triad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:45 PM
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You aren't above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:05 PM
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Most of the misandrists on this sub have worldviews and self-esteem that is wholly dependent on the sort of men they dunk on to exist and fail for the reasons they want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:02 PM
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Your collection of tiktok ragebait is larger than mine, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:50 PM
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Your idea of proof are anecdotal tiktoks why would I want to engage with you on that level?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:45 PM
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Little boys grow up to be men. And yes, people have said that to us. You don't get to tell me what the lived experiences of myself and other men I know was like. No one would seriously argue that they are owed sex just for being nice. They will resent the general messaging and conditioning that led them to neuter themselves believing that's what women desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:40 PM
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Most people's success metric is forming a strong romantic and sexual monogamous relationship, not how much casual sex you have. Even in relationships, being just nice and a provider is incredibly inefficient when it comes to anything woman related. It's simply not seen as sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:21 PM
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As a millennial I can definitely say the general message to boys was basically be nice and a provider if they wanted success with women. But you won't believe my lived experiences and continue on your misandrist rampage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:15 PM
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Many people are unaware of how often they use a woman's sexual taste as a heuristic to judge the moral character of men. I encourage you to keep this in mind whenever you see some guy getting ripped to shreds because he made the mistake of showing frustration or sadness about his lack of success. You'll see the same theme of how bad the guy must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:01 PM
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Depends what their standards are. Like obviously don't date who you aren't attracted to but there truly are women who have such a warped screen-addicted idea of who they find attractive that they would benefit from being called out on it. Its toxic positivity to entertain such a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:30 PM
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Do you really think outsourcing the entirety of courtship and mating to fucking Big Tech dopamine farms is a good idea? You know, the thing that everyone hates but compulsively uses? Because that's very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:58 PM
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Guys are not gonna fall for this kinda platitude again. Idk what it is with women and their proclivity to make men sabotage themselves but no one believes women when they say shit like they wanna date their gay best friend because it's just so wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:16 PM
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This is not my experience lol. Women are very prone to lashing out if their dating strategy is criticized. That is, if you are even allowed to do that in the first place. Most people interpret criticizing a woman as misogyny and will jump to the woman's defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:13 PM
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And women are wonderful perfect angels who are never wrong and their choices are moral authority right? At least until an evil devil man manages to trick their perfect personality detectors
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:11 PM
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They have an illusion of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:23 AM
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Not to mention the women are far less feminine and far more demanding. It's also your fault btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:46 AM
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Why not try empathizing with them and figuring out the core essence of why they feel that way, rather than sitting there at the finish line tapping your foot in frustration that no one is eager to run to you. Like holy shit it's not hard figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:09 AM
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Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:17 PM
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The vast majority of content creators, even pornographic ones, make fuck all; even if they are women. Women do have to do something with their lives to get anywhere, but they realize that way later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:14 PM
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The race analogy where women just wait at the finish line is highlighting the fact that women aren't engaged in their own race, their own pursuits and life. They just sit around waiting for guys to finish. Don't you think the whole "race" would confer a lot of maturity, skills and perspectives that would be considered beneficial and attractive? What exactly is attractive about a woman that expects a man to put in all the work in his own life while she just lounges around scrolling and engaging i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:08 PM
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It's unbecoming to try starting a dick measuring contest, it's something a man would do. You're too eager to dehumanize men for whatever reason just put that shit away when you deal with your loved ones idgaf about the rest of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:00 PM
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Any man worth a damn isn't going to see you as the prize. We want equals, not lazy entitled overgrown children that want so much and offer so little.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:53 PM
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No, he'll redirect any industrious energy to copium and distraction from his own mother expecting him to be the man she could never get, largely due to the fact that he doesn't exist. Expect him to be addicted to video games and resent you. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:52 PM
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I'm sure he'll make a fine incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:48 PM
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And what exactly are women doing to deserve any of this? Because from my experience, they are at home scrolling on the phone hoping big tech gives them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:48 PM
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Would you say that to your son?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:46 PM
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Or maybe we are tired of women who think they just need to wait at the finish line.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:40 PM
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The implication is that the CEO is busting his ass contributing to society and that's why he deserves what he gets when really it's not the case at all. It's just a bad example IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:16 PM
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Let's not think the CEO is some paragon of labor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:01 PM
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Ok i'll just never do anything nice for women ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:40 AM
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Sorry I made you feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:25 AM
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I think I could put together a profile that would attract women easily. 🤣 I'm sure you could. I would love to see you try and witness the inevitable spiral to despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:24 AM
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Yeah that would be harder because it would be very suspicious to just say "Trust me bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:23 PM
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I would go to bars and just say "I have 6 months to live, here is proof, I'm looking to experience some fun before I die, are you interested?" I'm confident that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:21 PM
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I unfortunately find this brazen admittance of hypocrisy far more attractive than I'd ever want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:20 PM
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So you're enabling her cheating? She's obviously a horrible person but what are you doing bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:15 PM
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To be fair the men a woman would have access to online are not particularly great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:13 PM
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Id wager anyone who says yes would be under the assumption they can simply "take better photos" or have "interesting bios" and have the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:47 PM
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I'm fine with agreeing to this. It's actually spot on. There is a perverted sense of comfort from embracing that what you want is actually impossible, which allows someone to deny responsibility for making change and taking risk. This is certainly a problem with men online.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:53 AM
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As a man who has put significant energy and effort into meeting people IRL and taking up new hobbies and generally trying to be a socialite, this is simply not my experience at all. There is a distinct lack of women and if there are women, they are on the older side (god bless them).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:52 AM
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I would be curious about the age range of this. I regularly go to latin dance classes and events and the average age of women there is prob like 45 and men outnumber women quite substantially. I'm well aware of the common talking point that women are overwhelming out dancing but in my experience, as someone that has taken latin dance seriously for quite awhile now, that is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:51 AM
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Or, you can actually just go out and do stuff. Go take classes, pick up a new hobby and meet others who do it. Like, actually engage with life. You'll make friends, learn some cool stuff and who knows maybe you'll meet that guy in some off chance encounter somewhere. Or, maybe that guy is someone you've acclimated to over several weeks or months going to the same thing over and over again. You know, things that would be impossible online? Where the only thing that matters is capturing your atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:46 AM
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If you want to willingly and consciously rely on big tech to be your matchmaker then all the power to you. You'll get what you want I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:39 AM
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It takes a few hours for a woman to get triple digit likes from an app, they really don't need to stay on the app for long to get their fix. Porn addicted men are not delusional when it comes to what sort of women he can attract or get with. He would not say "Yeah, I'm kinda a stud lol" he would likely feel shame and self-loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:36 AM
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I could say the same thing but in reverse. What men experience with online dating is a direct result of how women use online dating. I don't really care who is the "first mover" when it comes to who made it suck. I only care about current outcomes. And the outcome I care about is that men become more motivated to get off the apps, while women are still deluded on what they can get from it. This means women are less motivated to change and actually do things IRL, perfectly content to sit at home …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:34 AM
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Yeah, and that bitterness has been a crucial motivator for me to get my ass off the screen and accomplish things. I have hobbies I enjoy, friends I've made, romantic and sexual encounters I've experienced. If I was like most women and just sat at home staring at the screen waiting for Mr Perfect to show up in my DMs I wouldn't have had any reason to try new things and take risks. So what if I'm bitter? This simply substantiates my main point. You aren't going to get what you want by relying on b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:30 AM
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Yeah I'm sure women are lining up to find a man that is "maximizing their chances of getting laid" and treats romance as a "numbers game". I'm sure that is exactly what their desired outcome is: getting with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:27 AM
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We're gonna be waiting a long time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:25 AM
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It's gendered because it has two completely different outcomes on how men and women approach dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:21 AM
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Keep swiping then, and encourage women to do the same. I'm sure it'll work out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:19 AM
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Yeah, they give up on the idea that they will find someone through the internet. That only leaves one alternative: do stuff IRL; something that women tend to avoid because they are locked in a screen-addled stupor witless to how detrimental it is to their desired outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:19 AM
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No idea what you're saying. People think women have a ton of options online, but they don't. It's a lie. They simply have easy access to a pool of desperate or entitled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:17 AM
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They are sausage fests because women in general still think that big tech companies are efficient matchmakers. They are enamoured by the idea that they can find romance from the comfort of their own home, which is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:15 AM
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Those men would have an overwhelmingly negative experience if asked about finding romance online. I would guarantee that no guy constantly gaming or looking at pornography is going to say "yeah, this is a good use of my time i'll find my special someone soon." They have entirely given up and in the best case will have to get motivated to actually make social moves IRL. It takes women way longer to come to this realization since it initially feels safer and more productive to let big tech be thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:12 AM
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Chronic users of the apps are men and spend far more time on them. Women can just go in-and-out within a few weeks max (if not days), which skews the statistics on concurrent users. This does not also consider social media usage as a whole. I highly doubt that is overwhelmingly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:10 AM
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Yes exactly. The sort of men who subject themselves to dating apps are going to fit in the same few categories. Women don't actually have that many options online, they just have the same few options in high quantities. Like, why would a man subject himself to a dating app unless he's absolutely desperate, unhinged or has the "privilege" of being attractive enough to basically use it as Uber Eats but for sex. Seriously, why would any man subject himself to this? This is why men abandon the idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:57 AM
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A woman on a dating app thinks she's going to find someone worthwhile, oblivious to the fact that the only sorts of men who would subject themselves to the app are very likely going to make for bad partners. A man playing video games has absolutely no problem telling you that he's doing something bad and he's simply numbing the pain. He isn't playing thinking that it's going to get him what he wants.. EDIT: This poster edited his comment that mentioned men playing video games as a counter exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:52 AM
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I won't discount the negative experiences you've had on the internet. My main point is that the positive experiences women have are based on lies and it takes women way longer to be disillusioned with the internet than it does for men. This doesn't make women immune to negative experiences, it simply gives them easy access to toxic positivity affirmations or cheap male attention (neither of which is good for you). I'm highlighting that fact, and also the fact that men do not have access to that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:48 AM
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Because women are more enticed by the screen due to how much positive (albeit shallow and unfulfilling) experiences they get. Men tend to have negative experiences engaging with the screen in comparison. This is what the thread is about: highlighting this difference and why it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:43 AM
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Yes. It's just that men figure this out faster than women due to the differences in experiences engaging with the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:38 AM
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Such is life as an expendable bag of meat. I would know because I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:10 AM
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I think we all just need to accept that what we find sexually attractive is dependent on what helps us win in times of crisis. This also includes social skills, as that is arguably one of the most high impact traits in a time of crisis. The qualities that make you thrive in civilization are secondary at best. Like being a good citizen or whatever is never a sexy thing. Being a bad citizen is a negative for sure, but if you have sexy qualities it is overlooked. This is just how it is. Also, as ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:04 AM
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You would do the same if you had the same amount of prospects in your life. There are a non-trivial amount of men who are hitched with women they have issues with because they think that's just the best they can get. Unless you have actively tried to date and got absolutely 0 prospects you will never understand. Not that I expect you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:54 AM
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This wont get them dates. Women tend to think that a man's problem is what they do during a date. What you ladies fail to consider is that men have trouble getting the date in the first place. Hell, they have trouble getting you to actually acknowledge they exist. What you're saying, as well-intended as it is, is useless to the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:52 AM
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Don't expect women to sympathize with the pure dread that comes from being utterly defeated and seeing the spoils go to the victorious. Hell, don't expect men to sympathize either; they will just see your post as a sign of weakness and an opportunity for them to place themselves above you. The only thing you can do is refine your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. That's it. Do not expect women to change what they are sexually attracted to. The biggest blunder in our western culture is how …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:49 AM
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It's rarely the fantasy itself but the implications of what makes the fantasy valid. For women regarding CNC, it's that the woman is irresistable and the man cannot help himself. For men regarding young women (emphasis on woman, not girl), the fantasy is being desired by a woman who has the most options she'll ever have and choosing you. It's better to read between lines regarding these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:34 PM
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There are far less ways for men to prove themselves. Everyone is on the screen and if you cannot impress someone given the 50ms window you get then you're useless. This is why physical attractiveness is so overvalued. An unproven man is unattractive, and many men are unproven. The frustration comes from very few avenues to show what you offer as a man. Consider the job market, dating apps and the attention economy of social media platforms. It is incredibly competitive. One might say women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:39 PM
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Why would I? My experiences are incomprehensible to you. I'll simply be ridiculed and anything I say will be reduced to funny quips and over simplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:17 PM
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I'm sure this maybe is somewhat helpful but this would ultimately be a waste of time for men who actually struggle. The most common problem for lonely, struggling men are two things: Little to no mixed gender social groups with single women around their age bracket. Most men simply cannot compete in the artificially difficult world of dating apps and/or social media, so their presence on those is a waste of time. No opportunity to prove themselves to their peers. The most attractive man is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:47 PM
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If we're comparing today to 50 years ago, yes women have unprecedented choice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:47 PM
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It's fitting that you omit the "about me" part. Like, seriously what is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:56 PM
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Ok, so anytime anyone just makes baseless claims about me I'll simply take that as an opportunity to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:53 PM
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I don't give a rats ass about what you do. Just don't think you're doing anyone a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:02 PM
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What exactly is a man supposed to do when your first impression about them is every unfavourable assumption you have about men all at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:02 PM
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No. Attractive women don't register on my radar because the internet has destroyed my self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:34 PM
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I agree. Many manosphere-adjacent men would act exactly the same way if given the opportunity. I simply don't think that most men, even the frustrated lonely ones, are manosphere-adjacent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:15 PM
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Behaviour over a long period of time. With men you've only recently met, have a healthy amount of cynicism. People who love bomb cannot do it forever, they'll eventually gas out since love bombing is exhausting. Genuine interest more sustainable as it's much more mild. The question is, does that mild amount of consistent interest actually attract you? Do you actually find it attractive from a man? I would say many women are addicted to the high of short-term excitement and would find genuine int…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:13 PM
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I would argue that a woman's perception of having a high amount of choice is an illusion. Women truly do not have much choice in what sort of partner they can get, but it certainly feels like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:08 PM
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I would love to share my true feelings and vulnerabilities on the matter, but I would just get eviscerated by random freaks who have nothing but contempt for my experiences. All I'll say is that you truly do not get it if you think that men such as myself think it's as simple as your summary. You're just so off base it's actually infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:05 PM
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Men are not a monolith. Most men are not on the level of those screeching for state-mandated gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:57 PM
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Glad we're on the same page about you or any of your colleagues aren't actually interested in helping anyone except making yourselves feel better in comparison. Truly, it's not a requirement to show any leniency towards strangers; just don't delude yourself into thinking you're doing something benevolent or helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:55 PM
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She suffers from a Just World delusion. Bad things happen to bad people, good things happen to good people. Of course, this all gets thrown out the window when she's in a different context but when the topic is men it's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:14 PM
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"Hey I know you have a problem of feeling like you're fundamentally undesirable, so let's compare you to someone else to show that yes indeed you are truly unwanted and also a horrible person." Congrats I'm sure he feels a lot better now. If you're a professional you need to seriously improve your protocols for dealing with this kind of boy because you're only pushing them away. Why do you think a boy who is accustomed and primed for argument wants to hear a bunch of normies engage in shame tact…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:59 PM
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Those "old heads" only accomplished ostracizing that young dude. They basically confirmed his suspicion that he's different and no one understands. Those "old heads" grew up in a vastly different world and they would have little chance truly understanding what the boy is going through. So instead of hearing this boy out and actually trying to understand where he's truly coming from (and trust me it isn't gonna be about women), they thought they should shame an already ashamed and confused boy? L…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:37 PM
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Why play this zero sum game? You're better off trying to understand people who are different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:33 PM
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There is a distinct lack of empathy coming from you. You seriously have no idea what it is like to date as a man and you have no desire to even try. If you want to remedy this, I would try making a male dating app profile and see if you can get any attention whatsoever. You'll realize that filtering from a pool of 0 women is a far different problem than filtering from a pool of 100 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:26 PM
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They aren't trying to help you, they are using you to make themselves feel better at your expense. Whenever they highlight a flaw they want you to fix, they are simply reaffirming to themselves that they don't have that flaw and how much better off they are because of it. Truly empathetic people with intent to help are extremely rare and you're not gonna find that in a den of digital hyenas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:12 PM
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If it's a conscious choice, then choose to adopt a racist world view right now. You cant. Because it's not a voluntary act.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:10 PM
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Being convinced of something is involuntary. You do not make a conscious decision. Those examples are from people who very likely had experiences that convinced them their upbringing was flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:55 PM
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No one chooses their world views. It's simply their best attempt at explaining the world given the experiences and perceptions they have at the time. It is involuntary and it makes no sense to say one needs to choose better. Trust me I wish I could forget everything I know and have experienced about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:42 PM
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The men I refer to are the men criticizing women for being in this abusive relationships. They are the ones you have a problem with. The last sentence is what is required to disarm them. There is simply too much resentment from the men that you're unaware of. This is why you are confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:14 PM
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The men you are referring you (the ones that criticize women for these abusive relationships) are largely invisible and/or repulsive to most women; and they might just be average dudes who unfortunately live in this insane asylum of a society. Having to pull teeth in hopes to participate in the very normal human experience of sex and romance is condusive to resentment. Unless you do what we do, which is to preface every criticism of women with "women have a good reason to...." Or "men also do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:01 PM
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Yeah but I've fucked better women. Are you seeing the problem now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:17 AM
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The implication is that your dick isn't as good as the men she couldn't secure. Imagine the roles reversed if you're having trouble with empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:42 AM
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This just sounds like you see it as an annoying chore to sexually desire someone. Do you expect your significant other to come out of a cardboard box ready when you are I don't know what you mean by this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:37 PM
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What is wrong with wanting to be the object of desire from your most significant other?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:30 PM
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I'll be sure to remind you to not twist yourself in a knot if a man ever says he's just not ready for a relationship after a week of intense romance and sex. You're never allowed to read between the lines ever again and you MUST take everything said to you at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:21 PM
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The implication is that she doesn't find the man sexually attractive like the men she fooled around with when she was younger. So when she says something around the lines of "You're not like those kind of guys", she's saying "You're not as attractive as those guys". It might come as a surprise to you, but us men also want to be sexually desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:14 PM
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The only useful and honest answer to this question is that men have lost easy ways to prove themselves. An unproven man is worthless, and since all our attentions are on the screen unless you're top 0.00001% at something you wont show up on the screen and thus no one cares about you. Really, this is the crux of the problem. Any deterioration from a man's repeated failings stem from a drought of ways a man can prove himself to his community. I don't expect women to empathize with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:56 PM
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Yeah that shit doesn't fly and it's funny you even think those are viable venues. I'm not going to defend guys who can't clue in that their presence is unwelcome, but you seem to lack empathy for men when it comes to finding a partner. You would benefit from truly thinking about how you would actually attract a woman if you were a man, I think you would be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:14 PM
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If you were a man, how would you go about finding a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:08 PM
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You imply that women are inherently good unless proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:08 PM
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I like this point. I would argue the deepest resentment that men who grew up in that era have is realizing that there are exceptions to this script. If you tick the required boxes, you're allowed to act differently with women. Most rage from manosphere adjacent groups stems from that and women have a very hard time empathizing with it; and honestly I don't blame them. It's not a lived experienced for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:08 PM
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He didn't say anything about all women being bad. That is simply a pretend argument that you find convenient to dunk on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:05 PM
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In terms of what I think the fundamental problem is, I would assume he agrees with me. I would also agree with how loose-goosey people are with recommending therapy. Like it isn't the magic potion people seem to imply it is, especially for men's issues. As for the what I think the solution to all of this is; it's not so straight forward. I think the next step is acknowledging the truth of the situation and going from there. Men have been conditioned since day 0 that their value stems from how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:44 PM
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When the content you consume consists of a carefully curated collection of expertly made rage bait of women lusting over dark triad men or a highlight reel of perfectly average men being denigrated and humiliated by both men and women or how the reflexive instinct to make a man feel bad involves how undesirable he is to women it is no surprise that a boy, who is wholly reliant on those around him to understand what is good/bad, leaves adolescence with the imperative that he must be desirable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:36 PM
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It's very easy to be convinced that media is simply showing a woman's true feelings. So when you see masterclass rage bait content it's easy to think "Oh, so that's how they really feel about me. The women I talk to IRL are just being nice but in secret these are their true colors.". There is no reason to expect a 15 year old boy to have the wisdom to understand this. Now think about that boy when he's 25; at best he'll be doing the work to undo the damage. Therapy is great and all. I'm not argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:18 PM
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Thank you for sharing. I think you truly understand the fundamental essence of this problem and it's relieving to see it under a different context.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:08 PM
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Because I had sex and it didn't solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:29 PM
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It's the media, both fiction and otherwise, that I have consumed. It's rarely women in-the-flesh. My brain interprets both as having the same weight. Guess which one we tend to be exposed to more on a daily basis? Quite the problem for everybody regardless of sex 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:44 PM
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It's because they perceive whatever you're saying as a ploy to get them to remain invisible and stop talking about it. They see it as a threat to their message, which is undoubtedly making waves and cultural change. They hope to change the environment to be more conducive to them; as if it is a zero sum game with winners and losers. I'd also rip into disingenuous women who call themselves "feminists" (overloaded term that means nothing now) who do something similar. They basically interpret what…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:40 PM
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As a man I can safely say that a large chunk of shame that I have experienced on the matter originated from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:30 PM
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Manosphere talking heads also reaffirm the idea that a woman's desire is the only worthwhile heuristic of value. This is beyond political/cultural factions: it's entrenched in every corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:15 PM
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I agree. I would extend your point by saying a neurotic preoccupation with what woman desire in a man is mal-adaptive by crippling your ability to socialize and initiate productive energy towards anything worthwhile. This is quite evident with how much energy these sorts of men spend theorizing, lamenting and avoiding the world at large. I would say that it drastically lowers one's chance to spread their genes. So it only makes sense that men challenge the toxic idea that a woman's lust = their …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:13 PM
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Lust and a desire for inclusion can exist simultaneously or separately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:08 PM
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The emotional damage a woman can inflict on a man is microscopic compared to the emotional damage a man does to himself. The problem is the part of your brain that consistently harms itself when confronted with certain stimuli. It is not the stimuli itself, it is your reaction to it and conclusions that you derive from it. Those need to be challenged. Even if you suddenly became a stud you will still have the same problem: except now you're constantly compelled to fuel the insecurity through mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:02 PM
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I hope so. Whether it's through a therapist or otherwise is up to them. I am acutely aware that this is a male problem and that only men can resolve it. It is not a woman's problem, even if certain women perpetuate it (obv men do it too). It is up to men to discard useless toxic ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:45 PM
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We're in an unprecedented civilizational flux with so many factors flipped and we're all trying to piece together a new culture to help us thrive in this strange new world. We're all flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks and we can see in real time all the shit flung which did not stick. One of the casualties of this flux is a man's role and value he provides. I think that has been mutated and challenged so much that we're now in this really toxic, yet implicit idea that a woman's lus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:41 PM
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Most people don't even know that this is their problem, so how can you resolve a problem you don't even know exists. They think the problem is lack of sex, they will attempt to solve a problem that has nothing to do with the true illness. It's a bit of a meme that therapists are some omniscient wise people that know exactly what your problem is. I doubt they'll be able to identify the true problem in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:34 PM
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This is a very colorful but accurate way of seeing how these sorts of men see the situation. I unfortunately was one, so I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:32 PM
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That is very kind of you. It took a lot of false paths and red herrings to finally come to this realization and it is a powerful one that I wanted to share with others. It's annoying to see people bicker about non-issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:30 PM
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The solution is to decouple the idea that a woman's lust is what fundamentally creates value in you as a man. As ridiculous of a statement that may be to you, it is how many men think. It's from cultural conditioning. So yes, they should look to other sources. But they need to challenge this fundamental problem before other sources can derive any sense of value in oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:27 PM
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It's a problem with many men and it is something that needs more discussion and exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:21 PM
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Yeah it's pretty bad, but it is unfortunately a pattern you'll see in some men. It's up to men to figure it out and we need to directly confront the fundamental problem rather than all these stupid red herrings like the black pill and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:16 PM
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Of course the play for any man is to dismantle the idea that a woman's lust is a pre-requisite for being a valued member of society. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:58 PM
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I would be very curious to see you make a thread about what you find attractive about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:27 PM
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I 100% agree except I do not think the problem is the puritanical/slut shaming culture, but our terminally online and isolating culture. It's VERY easy to just sit at home all day and never interact with a single person. The friction to socialize, especially starting off from zero, is quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:15 PM
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You can flourish in a microcosm. This is the main appeal to video games: it gives boys an outlet to excel even if it's in a 10 man MOBA game with 0 female spectators. You can even flourish in some niche activity like DnD with a mixed gender group. The problem is that it's now a luxury to be in any of these environments with dating prospects. Most people are just participating in a global arena either socially or economically, which creates this winner-take-all mentality. The fact that you percei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:43 PM
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I have absolutely no idea how you conclude that given what I've stated. I don't think what I'm saying is particularly unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:30 PM
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You're supposed to prove that you have the chops to flourish in the environment you're in, whatever that may be. The problem is that most people's environments are winner-take-all online spaces and late stage capitalism, so it's very competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:26 PM
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I think women have a much higher threshold for physical attraction for men they know little about because ultimately what women find attractive is what I like to call a "Proven Man". This is a man who has proved that he has the chops to flourish in whatever environment you're both in. I've experienced this a good number of times in various social circles/hobbies/work. There will be a woman whom at first feels neutral towards me but over time she will start to see me in a more sexual light becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:10 PM
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