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I've had a similar experience and the girl wasn't even drunk. Long story short, I found some "modeling" photos that her ex had left on my parents' computer and called to ask if she wanted them. She came to my place to pick up the USB and spent the night. Accused me of rape because she felt pressured to have sex in exchange for the photos (which I'd handed over as soon as she arrived). My guess is that she'd assumed I would hold the photos and ransom them for sex, decided it was a price she was w…
/r/seduction08/04/22 08:13 PM
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Wear a t-shirt that says "free hugs".
/r/seduction19/01/22 03:16 AM
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I've literally given somebody a blanket because they snuggled up to me saying they were cold. Buuut... I've also been accused of sexual assault by making moves on a girl who was sleeping over at my house and decided to go nude below the waist.
/r/seduction01/11/21 10:26 PM
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Nobody wants you to approach them. That’s not to say it will be unwelcome if you do. The just aren’t standing around waiting for you specifically to approach them. The way I deal with that is I don’t act like I’m doing somebody a favour by starting a conversation with them. If you’re approaching somebody it is because you want something from them. You know it. They know it. Best way to deal with that is to give them a reason up front so they aren’t guessing at your angle. Maybe you need directio…
/r/seduction31/10/21 03:51 AM
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I've literally been in the position of the last one. I said "he's cute. is he down for a three way?" As it turns out, he was. It was a fun night. That's not a shit test. It's an invitation. I don't get why the stock response to a shit test involving other guys has to be a competition. Why is the other guy going to disappoint her? Why not just tell her to have a great evening? Why not respond to other guys trying to get her attention with a high five? This is mostly in-person advice though. I don…
/r/seduction28/10/21 11:46 AM
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Its so weird. I made a post about what worked for me and got shouted down. Like, no, you're not allowed to just chat with women and form friendships that gradually turn physical. You have to be a CEO of a fortune 500 company and a gym rat with perfect abs and do 1000 cold approaches every day and and buy my game supplement shakes and then you'll never be rejected again!
/r/seduction19/10/21 06:44 AM
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I have no problem with people working on themselves, but I think a lot of people act like they need to get their entire life sorted in order to pull at a bar. Sure, most women want to settle down with a guy who has his shit together, but if that's an issue that is coming up then you just need to be more honest about what you're offering. I went from skinny to toned muscle and it changed the kinds of woman who were easy to pull but the difference was negligible. Girls who are into a niche body ty…
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:20 AM
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I'm no centurion but my body count was in the high thirties by the time I was 21 and took a break. If I'd kept going in that lifestyle I'd have hit triple digits by around 25 but it wasn't what I wanted anymore. I can tell you a bit about what I was doing though and you can decide for yourself. I was unemployed and living rent free in my parents' second house while they were living interstate for work. I had no savings and no car. I was a skinny 5'10" guy with long greasy hair and yellow teeth. …
/r/seduction19/10/21 12:57 AM
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There are many reasons why a woman might be on the pill that have nothing to do with birth control. She might not be lying. That being said, it's kind of expected that women have to lie about having regular hook ups. Western culture is pretty relentless about telling women they have to present a certain image. If she says she doesn't do it often, just accept that as fact and then wear a condom anyway. She probably is on the pill but you aren't.
/r/seduction10/10/21 07:47 PM
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I am specifically referring to your approach. If somebody likes self improvement and wants to work on themselves they can do that and that's awesome. If you like working out and going to the gym, more power to you. And hey, having muscles and money does make other things easier, no argument about that. But if you are only doing it to improve your game, you are just avoiding doing the one thing you need to be doing. If you have a car, a job, an apartment, a button up shirt and a BMI that isn't in…
/r/seduction10/10/21 09:54 AM
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This is a common belief and it is measurably untrue. This is really just finding new projects to work on because developing charisma seems difficult. I want to attract women so I'll work on developing confidence. I'm struggling with confidence so I'll go to the gym. Every step is moving away from your original goal and putting a ton of work into something that is only tangentially related to what you are trying to achieve. If you want to talk to attractive women then talk to attractive women. If…
/r/seduction09/10/21 08:59 PM
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Hmmm. In order to attract women you must think about how the messages you are sending will be received by women. No! You must be successful and interested in everything except gaining women's approval! Yep. Theory checks out.
/r/seduction20/06/21 03:38 AM
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Cold approach is like practicing scales on the piano. Don't think of it in terms of conversions. That's not the point. Would you really want to date somebody you just met on the street with no vetting? No. Cold approach is to develop your conversation skills in a context where you can make mistakes without impacting your relationships with people in your social circle. If getting rejected is getting you down, take a break from closing. Just open new conversions, have a bit of fun, and then move …
/r/seduction23/05/21 03:25 AM
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I appreciate that the actual tip was exactly one line below what I could see without opening the post. It's a very well structured post for a very simple and effective tip. Nicely done.
/r/seduction20/05/21 10:42 AM
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Hey... sorry to bother you but I need a female perspective on something. Which smells better to you, my right wrist or my left wrist? Okay... now this is a bit weird but I ran out of wrists so I sprayed a third option on the side of my neck here. That's probably the ballsiest day approach I've ever done and it wasn't even game. I just genuinely needed a second opinion because I had a date for that night and was stuck between three options and I have really acidic skin so Boss Orange ends up smel…
/r/seduction20/03/21 11:08 AM
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No word of a lie: go stare at the makeup section and look confused. Literally every time I've done that a woman (not staff) has approached me and helped me to identify the product I was looking for within the time it takes to differentiate between "ivory" and "porcelain".
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:57 AM
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Obviously you're doing it wrong. You're meant to sexualize the interaction immediately... oh and open with an insult. Women love that.
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:52 AM
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That's how this sub works. If you want upvotes, tell men that they need to work out more, make more money, get a hobby, buy a house, finish their degree, achieve nirvana, and cold approach 10,000 women... but never EVER apply sound strategy or pickup techniques.
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:51 AM
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I used to teach day classes. I had to be VERY subtle if I was going to try to pick up a student. Things like telling people all the places in the area to get food and then saying where I'd be getting lunch and looking directly at her when I said that anybody is welcome to join me. Being a student in that environment though is pickup in easy mode. Literally everybody there is outside their comfort zone, shares at least one interest, provides a conversation starter at the beginning of the course d…
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:43 AM
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That story started out wholesome and then stayed there. Nice!
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:22 AM
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My stock response for that is "is he cute?" No spontaneous threesomes so far but I live in hope.
/r/seduction20/03/21 10:20 AM
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I love it. Also, as expected, the top comments are attacking you for approaching women, forming connections, and enjoying their company. No! You're not allowed! You have to get a job, have money, spend that money on hobbies, invest in yourself, meditate, achieve enlightenment, buy a house... THEN you can start approaching women from a position of strength and security! Seriously, if you asked these people how you learn to juggle they'd tell you to read a book about how the only way to juggle is …
/r/seduction27/02/21 08:55 AM
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Glad to know I wasn't the only one to think this
/r/seduction05/02/21 09:54 PM
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Escorts are fine. You don't have to use them as a stepping stone for something else. If you've got the cash then you don't need to play all the other games to get what you want. In all seriousness, there are women who will happily just hang out and play mariokart with you if you're paying by the hour. The fact that you are paying doesn't cheapen the connection, rather it is more transparent and honest.
/r/seduction31/01/21 09:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that chemical impairs performance in other areas
/r/seduction30/01/21 01:09 AM
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Sure. It's alsi easier to catch an uber than learn how to drive. Fast food is easier than cooking. And hooking up exclusively with women who actively display an interest is easier than generating interest.
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:20 AM
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I'm of two minds on this. For the majority of guys who do this, fucking stop. You aren't ever going to get what you want from this. That said, I've done something similar and it had worked out fine for me. Similar, but not exactly this. Personally, I enjoy occasionally going out with somebody and listening to get complain about her partner's failings. Nobody comes to me to complain about assholes though. Girls who want to keep me around on the side will tell me about how shit their guy is in bed…
/r/seduction27/11/20 12:57 AM
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But what does the guys she's cheating on you with think?
/r/seduction27/11/20 12:24 AM
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I've thought about it a few times when it's come up and I have a few theories of my own. I think for all the talk of not putting women on a pedestal, a lot of people here genuinely believe that when they've done their dues and performed all the pushups, cold approaches and vehicle purchases required of them they will finally marry a solid ten and relax because their supermodel wife will make all their insecurities disappear and they will finally be complete. The existence of a guy who essentiall…
/r/seduction23/11/20 09:12 PM
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For women you don't already know I absolutely support this message. I've had a few cases where bored text chats with somebody I'd already had a few dates with kept the game alive while we were both busy with other stuff, but the vast majority of cases it is a waste of time at best and an opportunity to mess up whatever you did have going at worst. I have a friend who somehow owns it on text game though. He's not much to look at but he has found this niche for himself of girls who any normal guy …
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:17 AM
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Funny how we're in basically a PUA sub and people are downvoting you for having a non-traditional approach to relationships. Anyway, poly is great. All the perks of married life. None of the limitations. *fist bump*
/r/seduction23/11/20 06:00 AM
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"Just be confident" I can never tell if people are being sarcastic when they say that. It's like, "Have you tried being born rich?" being presented as financial advice.
/r/seduction23/11/20 03:13 AM
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There's a trick for it. Just try this in a conversation and see what happens: The next time you find yourself in a small talk situation, when the other person finishes their turn and looks like they expect you to say something now, repeat one word from their last sentence and stop talking. Treat it like wikipedia article blue text. They'll start talking and you just nod and where you would normally grunt to let them know you are listening you repeat a word instead and watch as they tangent off i…
/r/seduction23/11/20 03:11 AM
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I'm in a poly relationship, so our boundaries are a bit different to the standard monogamous script most people fall into.
/r/seduction23/11/20 12:01 AM
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The abs intro is very strong but I can see how it's going to be tough to maintain intensity because its a bit of a fun sideshow but doesn't really draw in any depth of engagement. I've got a similar line where I'll come out of a perfume store with a different cologne on each wrist and ask some random girl for her opinion on which one smells better... then ask how that one compares to the one I sprayed on my neck. It's a fun and silly way to bridge the physical distance and have a pheromone excha…
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:58 PM
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Did I say... yes I did. Whoops! Yeah... maybe try to earn a bit over ten grand in a year.
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:29 PM
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All of these are valid, and seem to be part of the same underlying problem: Thinking you aren't enough as you are and expecting a woman to fix you. A lot of the advice I see correctly identifies the sense of inferiority but addresses it in terms of changing external circumstances as a means of addressing an internal problem. Ultimately though, you're only going to overcome a lingering sense of inferiority by looking within and asking why you feel inferior and why you've internalized the idea tha…
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:26 PM
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I've seen so many posts lately that you have to be dating supermodels or you're wasting your time, and then give you a ten year plan for becoming a person a supermodel would date. Not everybody wants to date supermodels. If you can find a step you can do today to improve then you are making progress. Even getting rejected is progress if you find something to learn from it. We're all starting from different places. Where you are right now is a perfectly acceptable place to start. So start here an…
/r/seduction22/11/20 11:12 PM
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My main struggle is pretty much the opposite. I have a habit of throwing myself head first into intimate relationships with a complete disregard for any emotional dangers and end up becoming a bit too intense, then the relationship ends and I just bounce back without adequately learning the lesson before I'm falling for the next person. I am fortunate to have a very understanding wife who doesn't take my flings too seriously because she's seen how quickly they burn out. I've been told by a few p…
/r/seduction22/11/20 10:26 PM
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I get pretty salty myself. Figured I should probably give it a shot and see if I really can do any better.
/r/seduction22/11/20 09:39 PM
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Exactly this. From what I've seen here, the vast majority of guys who are coming here for tips don't even want to be fuckbois who pull new hot chicks every night. They want a girlfriend and a stable relationship and need some help getting started. It's a totally different level of commitment required and most I've what I see just seems to make that goal seem like it is a very long way away.
/r/seduction22/11/20 09:37 PM
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I just cleaned it up a little so it is easier to read. Thanks for the feedback.
/r/seduction22/11/20 09:20 PM
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A comment that references actual science be the top comment? You must be new here.
/r/seduction17/11/20 03:19 AM
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So... I'm robbed of convenient jerk off material to rub one out to on nights when my partner is working late so I can get to sleep? Okay. It seemed like the opposite was happening.
/r/seduction17/11/20 03:18 AM
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Are they confident?
/r/seduction15/11/20 07:35 PM
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Donald Trump is a great example of my point. As a functionally useless human he has slightly under 50% of Americans supporting him for presidency after running the economy into the ground and making responsible management of a pandemic into a partisan issue leading to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths and around 20% worshipping him as the earthy embodiment of Christ based on nothing but confidence. How can you say confidence doesn't make a difference when the president of the united st…
/r/seduction15/11/20 07:18 PM
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I think we are able to agree that confidence isn't something that magically appears. I'm saying that if you lack confidence in your current circumstances you need to address the process of developing confidence directly. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that if you lack confidence in your current circumstances you need to change your circumstances in order to remove the barriers to developing confidence. Assuming this is a fair interpretation, my criticism is that insecurity is a pe…
/r/seduction15/11/20 05:39 AM
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I mentioned acting classes for developing a relevant skill set, not a vocation. I'm not suggesting to do acting because you love acting and will gain confidence from the achievement of becoming an actor. I'm suggesting an acting course because the Stanislavski method can be directly applied towards the internal transformation that all this other mucking about is intended to provide indirectly. If you lack confidence because you percieve something is lacking in your life and then work to fill the…
/r/seduction15/11/20 01:54 AM
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It isn't playing football to get better at football though. Self improvement and seduction are different sets. If your goal is seduction and you are focusing on self improvement then you are taking an extremely indirect path to seduction. I've got no problem with working on your health, career, etc. But you can become very good in those areas without gaining any confidence at all in approaching and relating to women. If you want to get better at seducing women there is literally only one skill y…
/r/seduction14/11/20 11:56 PM
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Others have already given some good advice directly relating to self esteem. It's good advice and I don't feel I need to add anything there. Regarding gym socialization, I used to wonder why other people at the gym seemed so friendly with each other when my pattern was to show up, warm up in a quiet corner of the mat room, move heavy things in the weight room, then do laps of the pool to cool down and then leave. I want there to be social so people politely left me to do my thing. If you want gy…
/r/seduction13/11/20 10:34 PM
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Going hiking with a group is a really safe first date option (particularly if you haven't really established intention yet and might just be friends) if you can difficult trail or one with some challenging parts that an work in your favor. I think jump scare movies are a reasonable option for a second date rather than a romantic movie. The combination of being in the dark and in close proximity with being scared is going to make her more attracted and also gives her an excuse to touch you for em…
/r/seduction13/11/20 08:06 PM
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Sure. Here's a couple. I might make a larger post which a whole bunch of them later. Keep her guessing This study compares female attraction to men who like her, are indifferent, or whose level of attraction is uncertain. Uncertainty wins. Get her blood pumping This study references the shaky bridge experiment which is one of the early classics in the field of attraction psychology. I like this study because it tests a couple of theories using actual human interaction rather than photos. when do…
/r/seduction13/11/20 11:10 AM
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I really like the manual vs automatic transmission analogy. It also helps to explain a lot of the early life social problems when you haven't quite learned the rules yet and keep stalling your personality on hill starts. I think Dutton's collaborations with McNabb Are some of the more interesting works out there but a lot of the studies he references don't really say what he says they say unless they are viewed in a context of other studies which he doesn't mention. He's not one to let the truth…
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:46 AM
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It is possible that my polarizing effect comes from envy. I've never looked too deeply into it. I find the greatest criticisms I receive are for thinking too much about things that are supposed to come "naturally". My social interactions are complex and fine tuned for optimal results and as far from natural as you could get, but even the slight flaws in my performance seem to create intrigue and I have people who become obsessed with trying to understand my view of the world. Captivate by Vaness…
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:37 PM
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Here's my trick: I never considered anybody out of my league. Now, that's not entirely true. In school I was a skinny nerd with a pony tail who had a long history of not really talking to anybody unless I had to. Then one day I joined a subculture and started incorporating their mannerisms and dress styles. I looked at all the "goth" character archetypes and settled on my own "Crazy Ali" persona that was based on Malkavians from Vampire the Masquerade. I'd flip from super serious to manic laughe…
/r/seduction08/11/20 09:53 AM
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I definitely had the idgaf mentality, but that can be learned. As for genetics, I was a pale skinny 5'10" guy with long nails, long hair, and I would wear tops hats, tartan skirts, chains, fishnet stockings and a cape in public. I looked like a bad drag show magic act and I'd never even heard of the Mystery approach. My philosophy was simple: if you can't be attractive, be striking. Really, it's about priorities. I would go to parties with an expectation that I would talk bullshit philosophy for…
/r/seduction07/11/20 01:00 PM
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Ever heard the phrase "my pencils are sharp enough"? When I was in my early twenties I definitely did not have my life together. No job. Living rent free in my parents' house while they were living abroad. No car. No money. No problem. What I did have was a whole lot of sex with a lot of different girls. They weren't all tens by any stretch, but some of them were. I got around though and I was known for it to the point where girls were seeking me out when they wanted something casual with no str…
/r/seduction07/11/20 11:14 AM
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I've met a few women without social skills. They were horrible!
/r/seduction07/11/20 08:16 AM
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You can’t learn to make women like you from a textbook. This isn't strictly incorrect, but a bit thing I've noticed in this forum is an attitude of anti-intellectualism. There have been some seriously useful studies into this stuff and there are entire text books worth of peer reviewed research into how to make a good first impression, what pickup lines work consistently and why, why men and women often end up talking past each other, what makes jokes funny, etc. It's like we know how to make as…
/r/seduction07/11/20 08:15 AM
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A back flip is an interesting way to look at it. I guess for myself I guess I see it like a gear shift as opposed to a change in direction. My goals are pretty basic and what people think of me only really registers as relevant in relation to moving me toward more tangible objectives. Something I find interesting is how polarizing my observations seem to be. Some people see them as profound and insightful, and just as many find them offensively mechanical, academic and counterintuitive... but as…
/r/seduction07/11/20 03:37 AM
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Thanks. Tannen makes some excellent points. It's been over a year since I read the book so I wasn't certain I was conveying the principles correctly but a year of observing them in the wild seems to have helped my own understanding a bit. I think my psychological makeup makes me more aware of these kinds of behavior and the desire to avoid being singled out compels me to play along consciously. So while I'm less concerned about my hierarchical standing for personal identity, I still need to know…
/r/seduction06/11/20 10:03 PM
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...and those who can't teach mock those who do.
/r/seduction06/11/20 03:33 AM
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I don't experience this. It isn't something I worked on so I can't really offer you any tricks. I just view girls as either hot enough or not hot enough. If they're hot enough to be worth approaching then I don't really think about it after that.
/r/seduction01/11/20 08:51 AM
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Can confirm. This subs obsession with "nines and tens" is hilarious. It's like they've never spoken to one. There are a handful that are tolerable, and they're usually ex-fat chicks.
/r/seduction01/11/20 08:46 AM
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If the other guy doesn't break away first you have to be prepared to go all the way. Marriage, mortgage, pretty dog, the whole lot. NEVER break eye contact first.
/r/seduction13/10/20 02:26 AM
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Where I live, that'll get you stabbed.
/r/seduction12/10/20 08:34 PM
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If neither of you breaks eye contact then you have to kiss.
/r/seduction12/10/20 08:27 PM
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Act drunk. You already know what works for you, so play to that. Think about how your mindset is different when you are drunk. As a depressant, alcohol makes you resistant to the negative feelings that come with thinking about being rejected. Because you aren't afraid of rejection you are able to confidently commit to a joke or story without caring whether or not it lands well. If you want to be able to act like that when you are sober you have to accept that having a joke fall flat or an advanc…
/r/seduction10/10/20 10:37 AM
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Was it at least a good revenge story?
/r/seduction05/10/20 01:47 AM
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Sociopaths need love too XD
/r/seduction26/09/20 09:50 PM
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We have those too.
/r/seduction26/09/20 08:26 PM
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That is the name of the other acceptable sex position.
/r/seduction26/09/20 11:42 AM
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Legal but heavily regulated.
/r/seduction26/09/20 11:40 AM
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Australia. I just checked though. These positions are internationally approved.
/r/seduction26/09/20 10:25 AM
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Not a joke. My country has allowed prostitutes to go back to work but is limiting acceptable positions for the reason the image implies.
/r/seduction26/09/20 09:32 AM
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Off the top of my head, be careful about doing other people's work for them. There is a tendency for women to support their male colleagues in ways that benefit the team but don't count towards their personal performance indicators, while men tend to focus on their their own role. The woman who is an equal but gets dumped with getting the coffee is the stereotype, which is recognisable enough to avoid. The less obvious things will be when you are expected to be in charge of moral boosting activi…
/r/seduction26/09/20 07:27 AM
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It's not strictly "manipulative". If you want to understand how women think, you really need to observe how they interact with each other compared to how men interact with men. They are nice... sort of. They are competitively nice. While male hierarchy is determined by one-upmanship (eg, you made a post about nice guy behavior and I'm correcting you which puts me at one up until you either correct me or agree and add to my comment). Our pecking order is based on who makes the best points and tel…
/r/seduction23/09/20 02:55 PM
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You seem really determined to put words in my mouth to fit your narrative. Let's flip it back to the subject of the subreddit for a second. If you keep doing what you've been doing, you are going to keep getting the results you've been getting. We don't tell guys who come here asking for dating advice that it's all the women's fault for treating them like friends when they act like friends do we? Why not? Because it doesn't help them get different results. So what do we tell them? We tell them t…
/r/seduction21/09/20 03:17 AM
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I apologize if my subtext wasn't clear. In any situation where any person is finding themselves is similar situations with different people, the problem is usually with the person who is having the same experiences repeat themselves and they will benefit more from self examination of their own behavior patterns than by receiving constant validation from internet strangers that it isn't in any way their own fault. If a woman is online cry ranting about her third abusive relationship in five month…
/r/seduction20/09/20 10:33 PM
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Check their history. You'll see the same story repeats for these women. Every guy they date is somehow abusive and manipulative. How does she have such bad luck with guys? Such mystery! The reality is that in a lot of these cases there is one person responsible for all of this woman's failed relationships, and it isn't any of the guys she's dated. Now that being said, relationship abuse is a real thing and it does happen. A lot of abusers are able to seduce women easily because they don't like w…
/r/seduction20/09/20 12:53 PM
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I apply a fire and forget policy. If I've sent a text then the ball is in their court and I have no intention of carrying the conversation. I have alerts so I'll know if they've responded and will respond back. That said, I know I'm guilty of reading a text and thinking I've sent the reply when I only thought I had, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt once and do a temperature check in a few days, but that's the end of it. I don't block anybody because honestly I don't need to.
/r/seduction14/09/20 10:40 PM
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The concept of a friend zone is so weird to me. Maybe it is a bisexuality thing but if I limited my friendships to people I'm not sexually attracted to I wouldn't have any friends! I have plenty of female friends who ask me for advice on their boyfriend troubles and I just don't see the problem with being friends with somebody while also being open about the fact that you find them sexually appealing but not somebody you want a romantic relationship with.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:38 AM
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Sometimes she's also waiting for him to make a direct advance because she isn't socially permitted to do it herself.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:23 AM
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That's such a strange attitude. I've had sex with most of my female friends because I'm honest about liking them as a friend but also saying I think they are smoking hot and would definitely hit that. I'm not sure why telling a friend they are fuckable is such a difficult concept for people.
/r/seduction31/08/20 01:21 AM
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Glad we could come to an understanding :D
/r/seduction21/08/20 12:16 PM
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I guess it depends on what you are looking for. If I'm after something casual I have no problem being second choice. I've had some great experiences which were no less enjoyable for ending with me climbing out the window because the guy she wants something serious with is at the door. Likewise, I'm fine with being the guy who she hooks up with to make the guy she's into (or dating) jealous. Maybe not all abusive people lose their shit before meeting in person, but enough do to make it a viable l…
/r/seduction21/08/20 05:48 AM
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You think girls are waiting until they see you in person to shit test you and see if you get abusive? A girl who gives her number to a stranger who approached her at the post office and doesn't at least pull a last minute cancelation to see if he loses his shit before meeting in person is just asking for trouble. Also, who gives a shit if you're the second option? Of course you're the second option. She barely knows you and unless she is new in town, she has other relationships which she is goin…
/r/seduction21/08/20 12:09 AM
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If you have a phone number and have spoken to them long enough to organize date then then I would hope you know something more about them than you know about a girl on tinder you haven't even matched with yet. If you are asking people on dates without qualifying them and then they are flaking on you, that's probably why they are flaking. A flake test is a shit test. If you are stood up for a date or she cancels last minute, do you explode her phone calling her a slut? Bullet dodged. Do you drop …
/r/seduction20/08/20 11:57 PM
10

I get what other commenters are saying... well, no I don't but let's pretend I do. I'm from a sales background and I apply sales techniques. Typically it takes seven points of contact to go from cold call to buy in. Anything short of "take my number off your list and never call me again" is getting a call back next quarter at the latest. Businesses use this because it works. If you have a phone number for a girl who flaked on you last week, that's a warm lead. Why would you spend an hour scrolli…
/r/seduction20/08/20 02:51 PM
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I've dated a few ex-fat girls and I can confirm that the self concept doesn't change immediately just because you've lost the weight. That internalized inferiority doesn't simply go away just because you look different now. Even if you hit the gym every day and get ripped AF you're still going to be seeing out of the eyes of the fat kid who was treated like dirt during your formative years. It is never going to go away but you can learn to reframe it into you getting the life you DON'T deserve. …
/r/seduction15/08/20 10:08 PM
6

Just open with "hey, can I pee in ur butt?"
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:04 PM
0

Tell me about it. Girls expecting me to give them an orgasm when I've known them for two hours? Damn. If you aren't taking responsibility for your own orgasms and haven't ever had one, don't expect me to get you there on the first go.
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:02 PM
4

Would you believe that there are men who get mad at women for making up a fake boyfriend because they legitimately believe you owe them a chance? I'm a new convert to the "humans have valid opinions which need to be respected" camp. I guarantee both of those responses would have me in objection handling mode before I understood they are intended as a face saving alternative to rejection. You're out of a relationship? Awesome! What you need right now is to blow off some steam and do all the thing…
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:26 AM
1

It's a slippery slope. Go down that path and your start getting notions like equal pay for equal work, paid paternity leave, even split of housework when both partners have full time jobs.
/r/seduction07/08/20 10:45 PM
-3

And that, my friend, is how seduction turns you into a feminist.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:29 AM
33

Something I haven't seen mentioned yet: Men, this guy is your primary adversary in seduction. It isn't that he ever gets the girl, but he is the guy every girl is thinking about when you approach her. She wants to know if you are him, and she is looking for clues. If she suspects that you are him (and he has shown up in her life before, always with a different face but basically the same entitled behavior) then she is going to do what she can to be polite while she looks for the door. She's not …
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:40 AM
8

Unfortunately it's not particularly uncommon. Maybe she won't get punched or stabbed THIS time. Maybe he'll just call her an ugly slut for not immediately taking off her clothes when he said she was beautiful.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:57 AM
9

You've seen those people on the street trying to get people to sign up for a charity right? They approach over 100 people in a day and they'll usually average one or two people signing up per day. The same is true of telemarketers. I'd call 200 numbers a day and a 1% conversion from cold calls to an in-person meeting was considered a good day. A 55% conversation rate is pretty good so it sounds like there is nothing wrong with your approach strategy, so now you just need to start working on conv…
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:17 AM
1

Rule number one: be attractive Rule number two: don't be unattractive
/r/seduction19/07/20 02:52 AM
2

If a girl I was talking to is in a conversation she seems to be enjoying I'll leave her to it and go chat with other people. If she wants to talk to me she'll come find me later. If she doesn't look like she's having fun and is politely trying to escape the guy's monologue about the details of his job or how he knows her area of study better than she does then I'll step in and put my arm around her and say "Hi honey, oh who's your friend. Oh hey man, I'm Aligator. No, just with one L" and then g…
/r/seduction08/07/20 09:46 PM
2

In a club where I'm obviously there to hook up: just do the opposite of what the covid-safe ads tell you. Get close, make physical contact, don't cover your mouth, suggest we go outside, don't smell like rubbing alcohol. If I'm in line at the post office and not expecting to be hit on, opening with a compliment will make me think you are trying to get me to sign up to a charity. If you instead open with an insult and then dare me to prove I'm not a coward by making out with you right here and no…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:26 AM
1

Different women have different preferences, but none of them like a guy who is pretending to agree with her on every topic because he wants to have sex with her. The perceived dislike for "nice guys" isn't a dislike for guys who are safe, but for guys who pretend to be nice for manipulative purposes. This idea that all women will be interested in one ideal man is dangerous and I might my own post addressing this soon.
/r/seduction04/07/20 10:23 PM
2

I think I understand your analogy. You thought the players were here to rob the bank. You heard terms like "hedge fund" and "float" and you assumed the robbers would be jumping out of the bushes and escaping by boat. You heard people boasting about making millions of dollars a year on "refinancing" and assumed they were just robbing a lot of banks so you ignored all of their advice because theft never sat right with you. Then one day you got a job as a teller and concluded that you are now the s…
/r/seduction30/06/20 03:03 PM
1

Wow. It's like you learned everything that people here are constantly saying ALL THE TIME. Well done on figuring it out.
/r/seduction30/06/20 01:09 PM
8

So to paraphrase: Game sucks. Here's a bunch of dated approaches that used to work pretty well but aren't as effective as modern techniques as an example of why games sucks. What you really need to do instead of game is *lists basic modern game*.
/r/seduction30/06/20 01:08 PM
2

Um... yes. I hope you're kidding, but if she is attracted then here is a sample conversation she probably has weekly: Some guy: Hey, you're beautiful! Her: Um... Thanks Some Guy: Can I have your number? Her: Sorry I'm... uh... seeing someone Some Guy: Fuck you slut and I was lying, you're a fat ugly bitch If you open with a generic comment about her appearance then she is immediately on the defensive. If you compliment her on her style, her bag, her taste in music, her choice of bottled water, b…
/r/seduction30/06/20 01:04 PM
0

The universe takes 10% of people's incomes in exchange for facilitating a sense of belonging? I hadn't noticed it doing that. I'm guessing you also believe that "just be yourself" is quality dating advice.
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:54 PM
1

The "Hope of God" church chain originated in Thailand (last I checked the CEO of the church was moving into politics there) but they have a goal of putting a church into every capital city in the world so I'd do a google search for "Hope Yourcity" to see if they have an outlet near you.
/r/seduction29/06/20 10:05 PM
2

If I ever go ahead with my threat to start my own church I am definitely putting a spotter in the bell tower with surveillance equipment and constant radio contact to greeters to feed them conversation points and interesting anecdotes.
/r/seduction29/06/20 09:53 PM
42

People don't realize how profitable running a church can be. If you have a church of 200 members each donating 10% of their net income then your tax free income is 20 times the mean wage of your members. Squeeze out another 10% "offering" and a modest sized church is pulling in 40 times the average worker's income and that's before you calculate the free labor. Christianity is the original MLM.
/r/seduction29/06/20 04:43 AM
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My old church literally had a ministry position for this. It was basically a "door greeter" role and there was a whole team with specific roles dedicated to making the regulars feel special and visitors feel noticed. From the pov of the members, they'd show up at church a few people milling around the front door when somebody would notice them approaching and break away from the crowd "omg John it is so good to see you! How is your model train collection coming along?!" and they would be exubera…
/r/seduction29/06/20 01:27 AM
2

Initiate if you want to. Chill if you don't. If you aren't comfortable with sex on the first date, don't have sex on the first date. Nobody whose opinion matters is going to think less of you for it. When you feel like you know her well enough to be comfortable to initiate sex then that job is entirely up to you and she expects you to make the first move.
/r/seduction28/06/20 12:24 AM
0

96.3% of people will just scroll past without reading this post
/r/seduction26/06/20 10:02 PM
0

And gender!
/r/seduction26/06/20 09:51 PM
0

it's because of the science!
/r/seduction26/06/20 01:25 AM
4

This is the longest "just be yourself bro" breakdown I've ever seen.
/r/seduction26/06/20 12:28 AM
1

If they used this method...
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:17 PM
26

I really like this systematic approach of moving forward until you hit a problem, and then only working on that problem until it is solved enough that that you can identify a new problem. You have a clear final goal and also a clear layout of each step you need to achieve to reach your goal. At each stage in the process you can identify the problem that needs to be solved and you can focus on overcoming that single problem.
/r/seduction25/06/20 07:33 AM
2

Anybody who approaches 10 women he's never met and asks them each on a date no longer qualifies for the title of socially awkward loser guy because he's cold approached 10 more women than the majority of guys. Even if the extent of your game is to literally stammer out "Hey, you're pretty. Can I buy you a coffee and throw shallow compliments at you for ten minutes?" to every woman you see, you are going to get a few positive reactions in 100 approaches... more if you can legitimately deliver on …
/r/seduction23/06/20 04:53 AM
2

I used to work in telesales. I'd start the day with and hour of cold calls to get warmed up, then I'd go through the accounts where to customer had requested a callback at a more convenient time (10am being the time where the manager has made it to work, has had time for the coffee to kick in, but hasn't really started anything they have to maintain focus on) then I'd redial my missed call and answering machine list until lunch. After lunch I would cold call the rest of my day's 200 new numbers …
/r/seduction23/06/20 12:51 AM
0

But not this time. ;)
/r/seduction20/06/20 06:34 AM
1

Nothing gets by you.
/r/seduction20/06/20 06:26 AM
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ASPD is a serious mental health condition you retard.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:16 AM
5

I am definitely going to try just asking somebody on a "whiskey date" while delivering the rest of the approach generic AF just to watch the response.
/r/seduction10/06/20 11:44 PM
3

Well done. A lot of guys get as far as "I saw this really cute girl" and then stop there. Those who do get as far as telling her she is cute and asking her out will often get politely declined and NEVER RISK IT AGAIN FOREVERALONE. It looks like you've got past that too. You are getting some reasonable advice here, but honestly don't even worry about improving your game yet. Strike up a few more conversations and throw out a few more coffee date invitations and just get more of a feel for how eve…
/r/seduction10/06/20 11:40 PM
1

Hire a prostitute every day too ;)
/r/seduction10/06/20 11:23 PM
2

What if you become a celebrity in ten years time and she posts about how the interaction made her uncomfortable and the mass hysteria her allegations trigger force the network to drop your sitcom? Surely this is a risk all men have to consider right?
/r/seduction10/06/20 03:53 AM
5

I recall a general principle of magic tricks from (I think) Penn and Teller. The secret is putting in more effort than the average person would deem possible. To the average person, buying 53 identical decks of cards send then carrying a hidden deck everywhere you go on the off chance you'll be called on to guess a card drawn at random is a level of commitment that is unimaginable. To the magician, that is only the beginning. I think of my approach to new interpersonal interactions where I want …
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:58 AM
67

But what was the rating of said ass before it was laughed off? As a man I have excellent visual abilities and can provide an ass rating out of ten through the abilities given to me by God for this purpose.
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:09 AM
1

There are still some companies that will offer promotions to married men over single men, and even outside of that there are certain community respect effects given to men who are married. It isn't that men CAN'T achieve these things while single, but a live in house-keeper who also pulls her own weight financially can make life a lot easier.
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:19 PM
1

Men who are married tend to live longer. They have better cardiovascular health, lower rates of suicide, and are more likely to seek medical aid for serious conditions. Marriage tends to benefit older men more than younger men. They also recover faster from surgery thanks to having company when housebound and somebody who will nurse them back to health. Women generally don't gain this benefit. This is highly dependent on choosing the right match though. People who marry the first good-enough opt…
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:12 PM
1

If you aren't after a single life-long relationship then the optimal stopping problem isn't a problem. You just stay in a relationship while it is meeting your needs and move on when it isn't. As a woman, there isn't a lot of benefit to getting married. Single and childfree women live longer and report higher levels of general happiness, have more friends, and are more involved in their community. Getting married might improve cardiovascular health in women but otherwise a lot of the benefits me…
/r/seduction09/06/20 11:01 PM
26

Let me just put this idea out there: I you don't want to take the risks associated with having a stable relationship you aren't obliged to. You are allowed to choose to stay single. Relationships are something that take practice to get good at and the majority of healthy and stable relationships are built on the corpses of previous failed relationships which taught a lesson about how to make a relationship last. If you don't want to go through the pain of building experiences of failed relations…
/r/seduction08/06/20 11:25 PM
22

Older women are a whole different game because all the social stigma around their sexuality has been overcome and they generally don't give a shit if somebody wants to label them a slut and will sometimes get a kick out of it that a guy is bragging to his friends about her. Anything thing that comes across as a trick is a turn off, so be blunt and straightforward about what you want. Also, know what you want and take an interest in what she wants. Something as simple as responding to a story abo…
/r/seduction31/05/20 11:08 PM
17

It is one of the better reasons to get murdered.
/r/seduction31/05/20 10:32 PM
3

I think I've ended up fucking most of my female friends at some point. It can sometimes lead to a FWB relationship or dating. The reasons vary and I'm not sure if there is any "right" answer to this for how it happens but I can give some general points about my situation. I maintain friendships with ex girlfriends and a number of my close friendships started out as a one night stand. So a female friend in my group who is considering hooking up with me knows in advance that she has a social pass …
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:49 PM
2

I tend to get into long conversations, but that's because I like long conversations. That said, I always try to start any interaction with a clear indication of the tone I plan to take for the duration. If there is going to be flirting, it'll be there in the first ten seconds. If I want to geek out about the anime plushy on her bag then we're going to be bonding over comparing new Voltron with old Voltron and sex is something that may happen but it isn't really on the agenda anymore.
/r/seduction29/03/20 12:58 PM
1

The problem isn't that you are being direct. The problem is that you are being direct too late. You want to tell girls they are pretty? Do it! Walk up to a girl you noticed, tell her she is pretty and then walk away. If she wants to take it further, she'll come find you. On the other hand, if you've spent a few weeks talking to a girl you think is pretty and you know everything about her work drama, her favorite shows, and how her cat is sick and you've only just gotten around to commenting on h…
/r/seduction29/03/20 12:05 PM
2

Protein is a waste of time that is made up by so called "body builders" and "personal trainers" who are just here to take your money and is only a distraction from deadlifts. The ONLY thing you can do to get better results with muscles is deadlifts. You want to get shredded? Deadlifts. In fact, if you've been focusing on diet at all you are just distracting yourself. You need to stop eating immediately and focus on doing more deadlifts.
/r/seduction18/03/20 07:04 PM
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I'm going to have to write one of these bullshit posts for free karma some time. I think the title will be "The Only Way to get Built is Deadlifts and Everything Else is a Waste of Time"
/r/seduction18/03/20 11:54 AM
2

That'll work on a particular type of girl because it is blunt and forward, but it is also refusing to play the game and may send the message that this is because you don't know how to communicate with subtlety and wit. It is quick though, so go say it to 100 women and you'll probably get a better overall response than any other canned opener.
/r/seduction16/03/20 10:12 AM
5

My wife did this on our first date. The friend bailed at the last minute. Apparently she didn't trust herself to be alone with me. When I realised what was going on I just chilled and let her set the pace. Turned out okay in the long run.
/r/seduction11/02/20 06:53 AM
2

Approach women and build non-sexual rapport, then say something that is totally untrue that would make her hate you. If she doesn't go cold, admit you were only kidding and go back to friendly, then admit to being a serial killer in a way that doesn't sound like you are joking... then break the act and admit you were only kidding. Go back to friendly for a bit then sex something overtly sexual. If she reciprocates, that's fine. If not, you were just kidding. Easy mode rejection proof approach.
/r/seduction11/01/20 09:24 AM
6

Want to know what would happen if you'd hooked up? I have a similar experience. I met this girl online. She was in another city so it was pretty much understood what would be happening when I came to visit. I took her out for ice cream and played my standard game. She was okay to look at but I was carrying the conversation. That's okay. I wasn't really there for the conversation. We hit the time where I either leave now or I am stuck for the night, so she invites me to stay. All good. Then we ge…
/r/seduction05/01/20 02:42 AM
1

Thanks for the tip. The correct spelling was taken and they wanted more than twenty bucks for it. I think posting ads on seduction forums looks pretty effective. I'll give that a go first.
/r/seduction28/12/19 05:27 AM
3

Just $19.95 on all major credit cards act now to maximise your dating success. You know what? I'm inspired! I think I could peddle common sense and tested psychology as a revolutionary product too. Could be good money in it. Thanks OP.
/r/seduction28/12/19 05:15 AM
1

No. I've never been in the market for some somebody who is perfect, but I've ended relationships because I didn't like the person I was becoming. I have since learned that it is monogamy that turns me into this person. I am now able to be in multiple relationships while still playing the field. I'm a better partner in this context.
/r/seduction23/12/19 09:56 PM
1

I really like the "friends" line. I think some guys struggle to find the line between honesty and just being crass. I like to think of it in terms of what will appear in the sexual harassment hearing transcript so I tend towards inviting somebody to watch "Netflix" or I offer to take sexy photos for their Insta. Both are genuine offers but also (I hope) pretty recognizably offers of casual sex and not implying that I am planning a wedding in a few years that I'd like them to star in.
/r/seduction23/12/19 06:58 AM
24

How honest? How direct can I be? That depends on how many rejections you can handle. A lot of guys spend most of their interactions trying to stay as vanilla as possible to avoid getting a no. Build rapport first with standard small talk, but really you want to put your cards on the table in a general way early on. If you say "Look, I'm just out of a pretty serious LTR and I'm really just looking for some fun and maybe something casual until I sort myself out emotionally... do you know anybody w…
/r/seduction22/12/19 10:04 PM
61

Honesty is surprisingly underrated as a pickup tool. Knowing what you want and being confident enough to just say it is stunningly attractive. One thing I'd add here is reputation. If you are in an extended social group like college/university or a small town, people talk to each other. If you build a reputation for being an up-front honest guy who is down for a judgement free casual thing and isn't going to get butthurt and make a scene if he is turned down, the girls will come to you.
/r/seduction22/12/19 08:36 PM
2

I started cycling to uni in first year just to save money. Ended up going from skinny to cyclist legs in a few months. Joined the gym to even out my proportions. I never went really big but I developed a more masculine build. What I found was women considered me a lot more attractive and that just made everything else feel like I was playing on easy mode.
/r/seduction08/12/19 11:17 AM
3

There are plenty of humans who fail the turing test in a text conversation.
/r/seduction06/12/19 12:36 AM
4

What you really need is a pre generated angry tirade for anyone who takes longer than 23 minutes to respond.
/r/seduction06/12/19 12:35 AM
1

How so? (I'm not disagreeing, I just have trouble identifying certain types of social cues and this might be one of them)
/r/seduction01/12/19 07:58 PM
2

I'm not. I've just described one very isolated facet of my life which gives that appearance. edit: I do have a medical condition which makes forming deep connections with people difficult. I don't feel lonely but I am naturally a loner. I'm not especially interested in pursuing emotional connections with sexual partners and I take steps to ensure that I am attracting women who are only interested in casual relationships. I believe this is the ethical thing to do.
/r/seduction30/11/19 08:00 PM
0

That extra effort the ugly ones put into being interesting and enjoyable to be around translates in other areas too. I've gotten with a few girls I wasn't physically attracted to just to have the experience. The few I've been with have some incredible tricks to take your mind off what they look like. The downside is that my most effective pickup tactic has been building reputation in niche communities as the guy who only fucks hot girls, so girls who need an ego boost come to me and receive vali…
/r/seduction30/11/19 09:22 AM
1

IKR? I can see a few problems with it in a modern context though.
/r/seduction29/11/19 11:03 PM
2

I'm currently going through this book in audio form. I approve.
/r/seduction07/11/19 12:11 PM
1

That makes more sense.
/r/seduction28/09/19 12:24 AM
1

Interesting how there are guys who are so afraid of comming off as needy that they won't do a five word follow up on a prospective just because the line went quiet. I thought this list was pretty good. I probably wouldn't use them as they are because my standard approach is "hey, are you still interested in X?" With X being a hobby or band she is into. It acknoledges the break but baits the hook with something familiar and safe while hinting that there may be an opportunity involving her interes…
/r/seduction27/09/19 10:03 PM
1

My general experience has been that if she wants you to come over for sex, the place is her place and the time is right now. Women have a LOT of social pressures on them saying they shouldn't like sex at all, let alone casual sex with a stranger off the internet. Every single time I've successfully hooked up with a stranger for casual sex, it was as soon as she got off work or the time it took to drive to her house, or we just jumped off the bus at my stop instead of hers. Giving her time to coo…
/r/seduction06/09/19 11:47 PM
1

I've noticed that sometimes a girl will say yes and then flake if she is afraid that an outright no will have negative repercussions (or will just result in objection handling rather than being respected). The tendency to do this has a lot to do with her previous experiences but also may reflect on you being a bit pushy in getting the initial yes. Something I've been doing to avoid this for a few years now is to back right off if the girl seems to be passively agreeing to everything and make her…
/r/seduction03/09/19 12:42 AM
7

That old chestnut...lol! I've got to assume that was a display of confidence to be secure enough to tell that story in mixed company... otherwise she's got some interesting fetish goin on there.
/r/seduction01/09/19 11:41 PM
12

try to serve them Here's the main mistake: treating her like the customer instead of the food. Women in a quick hookup will have their own reasons for being there but mostly they want to have a new experience with somebody who is going to take the lead and take them on a journey. They've received all these signs that the guy is reading her body language and saying all the right things to reassure her that he's not going to get clingy or possessive after... then as soon as the clothes are off the…
/r/seduction01/09/19 11:33 PM
21

I've had a few girls tell me the moment where they knew "I'm going to fuck this guy later" and they are almost always some odd random thing. My leather coat has sealed the deal for me more than once. Going to have to try reverse paralell parking with the leather coat some time and see if it is a super combo.
/r/seduction01/09/19 09:54 PM
8

I am picturing you driving all the way to the resteraunt in reverse. That's not just redneck American. That's Florida Man.
/r/seduction01/09/19 09:49 PM
5

I'm from a non-American country; "confident self-expression" isn't the word we use but yes it is viewed as distinctly American. If I'm in line at a McDonalds and I have to wait for the person in front to explain how they want no mayo, exactly 50% extra salt on the chips, switch the lettuce on the burger for extra cheese, lightly toast the lower bun, diet coke but with a packet of sugar added, no ice, and exactly one third of a hash brown which has been grilled a second time by a server in a stat…
/r/seduction01/09/19 09:46 PM
26

All my dreams ruined
/r/seduction01/09/19 09:23 PM
12

Always good to revisit the basics.
/r/seduction25/08/19 07:38 AM
6

I love that format. I just go straight to "who ever said anything about dating?" It barely registers as a shit test.
/r/seduction20/08/19 09:51 AM
1

This is basic human nature. You watch babies play and for some of them, the only toy in the world they want is the one the other kid is playing with. We all want what we don't have and what we can't have. Once we have it, it isn't so much fun anymore.
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:44 AM
1

Think about how women describe creepy guys who hit on them at bars. Act like that but be attractive. Also: read the side bar. Has everything you need to know.
/r/seduction16/05/19 02:07 AM
1

Thanks for doing the research :) I'd expected a slight dip in matches but I hadn't considered the impact on the quality of the matches. Useful way to filter out the prudes or just a way of early contextualising the conversation? Had you found another other odd hacks (like filtering for women who like the taste of beer on okc)?
/r/seduction15/05/19 01:52 AM
1

I also made that mistake in my first scan of the post. Good points and examples. My problem is all my friends suck at taking motion photos so I have good selfies and shitty action snaps of me doing cool things.
/r/seduction13/05/19 07:00 AM
2

Three texts within a minute of each other with obvious connection to each other is very different to three progressively more aggressive texts over two hours.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:56 AM
2

Women love to complain about shirtless profile pics. I'd be interested to see someone do a study with generic profiles opening with "hi" to see the actual strike rate effect of showing off the chest what it is a chest worth showing off.
/r/seduction13/05/19 06:37 AM
1

It's a bit creepy but something I've done just to have done it. I went through my yearbook like a catalogue and googled the girls I liked the look of to see what hey were like now. Found somebody I'd done a group project with and just followed the crumbs to get an idea of her internet presence and contacted her on a special interests group that I happened to already have an account for. I used the other interests I'd learned from google as talking points. And she agreed to meet for lunch. We hit…
/r/seduction12/05/19 05:03 AM
3

That is SO different to the impression I got from your first post. Seriously, you ask for advice on a girl telling you to get in shape and you don't mention she works in fitness? She isn't shit testing. She is upselling. Also, she is right. You do have some fashion model looks. I know people in the industry and would be happy to send them your headshots for just $800.
/r/seduction11/05/19 12:43 PM
11

One word: Don't. Girls at a club are going to be spending a good bit of their energy deflecting unwanted men testing out the latest trash pickup line they read on the back of the toilet door. If you are collecting glasses you have a clear reason to be entering their space, asking them how their night is, flirting a bit and slipping away like it ain't no thing and you aren't invested in the outcome. Every other guy in the bar WISHES he had a rack of glasses like yours to start conversations. You'…
/r/seduction11/05/19 11:46 AM
2

It isn't game if you pay for it. I'm not saying you shouldn't tip well, but when somebody is surviving on tips there is a lot riding on keeping the customer happy while keeping the customer coming back. Flirting with you and stringing you along is good for business. Actually hooking up with you is bad for business. Telling you to build muscle is an invitation to bulk up and come back to show off your guns and leave another big tip. Absolutely nothing against her for doing this. Girl's gotta earn…
/r/seduction11/05/19 11:16 AM
3

It makes the obvious difference of having a venue to invite somebody back to and ups your status a bit. On the other hand, being a student in a subject which is typically female dominated has a heap of opportunities to invite somebody back you your place for genuinely innocuous reasons like "let's memorise the names of commonly used anti inflammatory drugs and things you want to avoid mixing them with at my place". If you have a partner you will be rolling in poon. Even more so if you have a few…
/r/seduction04/05/19 04:18 PM
1

The answer is yes. Your physical appearance will do a lot of the lifting for you on approach. Her first impression of you happens in under a second and will impact if your cheesy one-liner is viewed as cheeky or creepy. A good body is like playing in easy mode.
/r/seduction15/04/19 10:35 PM
2

You say you want to go further. What do you mean by that? Like, do you want to get married and have kids or do you want somebody to point at and say "look at my girlfriend"? In my experience, some girls prefer to be somebody's bit on the side. They can have fun with you but they aren't responsible for meeting all of your needs all of the time and they can have their own space when they want it. If you start looking like you want more than that you could easily scare her away. If the relationship…
/r/seduction13/04/19 07:37 AM
10

This is so important. Saying she's taken is an attempt to let you save face... and also an assumption that you will respect another man's claim over her more than you will her lack of interest. If she is making up a boyfriend to get rid of you, take the out she has offered because nothing good comes after that.
/r/seduction02/04/19 12:35 AM
6

Hmmm... nah. If you want to live by that code then more power to you. Personally though, it stinks of patriarchal relationship slavery and denial of female autonomy and I am morally opposed to the whole premise. I'll give you my explanation, feel free to engage, accept or ignore as you chose. Women are not property. I acknowledge that some men think that if a woman is with them then should not be with anybody else. You can make an agreement with a partner that you will have sexual exclusivity an…
/r/seduction02/04/19 12:31 AM
25

Unless you tell them they are a "1" without context.
/r/seduction18/02/19 07:11 AM
22

Note: Do not attempt to pull this crap unless you are obviously white.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 02:00 AM
3

I've been here. She doesn't want to be alone with you because she doesn't entirely trust herself with you. Also, women see serial killers and rapists behind every tree. She's just protecting herself until she knows your intentions. It isn't that bad an idea. Odds on if she doesn't know who she's bringing she won't be able to find a willing third wheel on short notice and will either bail last minute or come alone. If you are looking for a long term relationship settle in and see where this show …
/r/seduction25/07/17 09:53 AM
1

So... are you sure that you actually had organised to meet up. Did you get confirmation? Note: "sure, I'll see you there" does not count as confirmation for concert meetups. If you organised it weeks in advance and didn't check in the day before then that is just flakey millennial syndrome. If you're organising a group thing with your friends and her friends, you have to send a reminder to everyone in both groups the three days before and a day before. The group dynamic is different to one on on…
/r/seduction28/03/17 10:01 PM
3

You could also want her to grow as a person and have an interest beyond getting your dick wet. Don't get me wrong, that relationship is over, but it doesn't hurt to lay some groundwork for her future relationships.
/r/seduction28/03/17 09:27 PM
2

Try reading the study :)
/r/seduction11/02/17 08:37 PM
111

Your mons pubis is as the rolling dunes of smooth sunbleached sand, drawing my to your sheltered valley.
/r/seduction10/02/17 09:38 PM
5

Okay. A few suggestions. You've got approaching down. You may not be good at it and it may feel terrible but you've passed the main hurdle that stops most guys. Now you need to focus on just being comfortable talking to somebody without having an agenda. So set yourself a rule: one night each week is your go out and talk to a bunch of people but you are not allowed to close. Don't take her number even if she throws it at you. Just talk for a few minutes, crack some bad jokes, read her palm, levi…
/r/seduction09/10/16 06:22 AM
1

Now I just need to come up with a decent knock knock joke.
/r/seduction16/09/16 08:15 PM
1

and then they say "who's there?"
/r/seduction16/09/16 03:54 AM
3

Based on my limited knowledge of the United States, you options are to write a manifesto and go on a shooting spree or move to a country where a criminal record from America is treated as a joke because those damn yanks and their privately owned prison system that is allowed to lobby government. Seriously, you are living in a first world economy with a third world legal system. Get the hell out of there man. Just don't bring your crazy here.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 07:35 PM
2

I don't know if this helps directly, but when I met up with my "the one" from high school after just five years of no contact I was instantly cured. She'd dropped out of law to marry a jock from high school and the more time I spent with her in her run down home the more I realised that those little things I saw as so cool in high school just came across as vulgar in a grown woman. Her sharp wit was used almost exclusively to put down her husband and her famous one-liners were actually just movi…
/r/seduction26/02/15 09:19 PM
4

Creating conversation with people I initially know nothing about is a big part of my job. I work with tradies, federal police, hospitality workers, retirees, nursing/paramedicine students, military, support workers, public servants and more. It is critical to my success that I can maintain a casual conversation in front of everybody with at least four people (it creates a natural feeling and they're more likely to buy stuff from a "friend"). Every day I say to fifteen or more people "Tell me som…
/r/seduction26/02/15 06:19 PM
17

One thing to add to this is that men are generally less likely to seek help and diagnosis for depression and other mental disorders. I'm not saying that the princess upbringing isn't causing more women to get a depression diagnosis. I'm just saying that the boys are tough upbringing is a likely reason why a lot of male depression remains undiagnosed and untreated.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 06:44 AM
2

While I do get the joke and think that OP probably missed the point, I think an official complaint is an appropriate response to this manshaming.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 08:00 AM
4

Typical move on this is to start by talking to the guys around her. Don't be in competition with them; compete with her for their attention while ignoring her. If you are competing with her for their attention, you'll have her attention. Then it is a simple shift to noticing that she exists and wants attention and then getting permission from the escort to borrow her for a few minutes.
/r/seduction06/07/14 10:52 AM
2

Some good responses here already. The one thing I'd like to add is that the best way to get over the fear is to confront it. Walk up to a stranger with no plan at all and say hello. If you suddenly come up with something to say, that's great but it probably won't happen. Instead, you'll probably find yourself in an awkward silence. At this point, acknowledge the awkwardness and have a genuine human moment with somebody where you're not trying to be clever or witty. If you can't salvage it, excus…
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:02 AM
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