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Allogenes/r/seduction24/03/11 11:19 AM
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I've derailed the thread? I offered sincere and reasonable advice to an inquirer. You disagree. Fine. It's the nature of Reddit that users have different opinions. But why not leave the thread intact and let the readers experiment with both approaches and determine what works best for them? Is your ego so incredibly fragile that any dissent to your opinions constitute a fatal "derailing" that requires censorship? How incredibly petty.
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:41 PM
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Based on this exchange I'm fairly certain I won't be accepting any pick-up lessons from you, but thanks for the offer.
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:35 PM
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You can tell? Really? Your clairvoyant powers are even more impressive than I'd been led to believe. When a girl asks if your dick is small she is NOT baiting you for a sexual reply. Rather, she is going to read your reaction to her question to infer whether or not her inquiry is true. If you become defensive and withdrawn, her suspicions are confirmed. If you remain confident and playful, she infers the opposite. Reiterating over and over that you have an "exactly average" sized dick is weirdly…
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:28 PM
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Disagree entirely. I think your responses can work just fine, but there is no harm in having some fun with the question and turing the situation sexual. After all, she's the one who brought up the topic of genitals. As long as OP doesn't become nervous or defensive he's golden. And making a sexual joke out of the situation opens up many more opportunities for escalation than simply saying "my dick is average." Where does the conversation go after that? It's a conversation killer. When a girl inq…
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:13 PM
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Next time a girl asks if your dick is small reply: "I'll show you mine if you show me yours." The maxim "there is no such thing as bad press" applies to your dick. If girls are talking it's a good thing. It's an opportunity to steer the conversation in a sexual direction.
/r/seduction12/04/16 05:42 PM
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This is really the only response you'll ever need.
/r/seduction12/04/16 05:40 PM
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Come out and visit. Spend some time in LA, NYC, SF, and Boston and see what the scene is like. Atlanta is the heart of the Confederacy, so expect "bubbas" to take issue with you dating one of "their women." The coasts have less historical hang-ups with interracial relationships. Animus directed towards interracial couples is just not something you see often out here.
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:40 PM
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My college roommate is a Caucasian man happily married to a beautiful South Asian woman in NYC. I visit them often, and they don't report any troubles with racism. I live in Los Angeles, and I am a black man happily engaged to a white woman, and I never face any kind of push back. Most of the major American cities on the coasts are full of interracial couples, so it tends to be less of an issues. That being said, you're bound to run across at least some ignorant people no matter where you go.
/r/seduction14/01/16 10:35 PM
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Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, and Boston are your best bets. I might through Chicago on that list. Keep in mind that the cost of living in all of those cities will dwarf that of Atlanta, but in this country you pay a premium to escape dumb-fucks.
/r/seduction14/01/16 06:44 PM
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What are you on about? It's not even a night out if I don't approach 20 women. In a club with table service you can hit 20 approaches just by dropping in on five 4-tops. Every approach is not about closing: at LEAST half the women you engage should be warm-ups and time-killers between actual targets. Constantly chatting up girls keeps you in a social mood and enhances your perceived value by giving you "life of the party" social proof.
/r/seduction08/07/15 03:00 AM
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Don't feel conflicted. His advice is terrible,and he's being a cunt.
/r/seduction20/03/15 08:04 PM
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It takes a plunge right about the time sexual harassment litigation became normative in American workplaces. In response, most companies of note nowadays require employees to receive "Sensitivity Training" that discourages flirting and dating in the workplace.
/r/seduction01/07/13 02:59 AM
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You need to read more in this sub.
/r/seduction10/04/13 06:37 PM
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Don't do coffee dates. Schedule dates for the evening in venues were alcohol is served. Booze and the cover of night are natural aphrodisiacs, and they'll do more for your game than any line or routine.
/r/seduction04/04/13 06:44 AM
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This was not a shit test. She wanted to leave with you, but you didn't give her the impression that you intended to escalate once you had her alone. She offered you a way out to save face. Be bolder next time.
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:16 PM
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I make out with women in public all the time. Once things get hot and heavy I suggest we find somewhere "more private," and I keep moving to increasingly more private locations until the final move back to my home seems inevitable I have never convinced a woman to accompany me to my "sex location" who had not already committed to kissing and heavy petting with me in my "pick-up location." I love The Ladder, but that particular bit of advice has not survived my field tests.
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:14 PM
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Sidebar this.
/r/seduction14/03/13 05:57 PM
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When I suggested hiring a prostitute I intended it as an argument reductio ad absurdum. The actual economics of prostitution aren't the point. Rather, I only mean to underscore that seduction isn't the quickest or easiest path to sex if sex truly is the goal. Seduction is a philosophy and practice that cultivates attraction, and sex is merely one of several consequences of being an attractive man.
/r/seduction25/02/13 01:59 AM
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If sex is the goal hire a prostitute. That's usually a more time and cost efficient route to acquiring sex. But most members of this community won't prefer that option. And for good reason: what we really strive for is to become attractive and capable men with whom women want to have sex with without monetary exchange. Hence, OP is correct. The goal is attraction. Sex is the reward we claim once we become truly attractive.
/r/seduction25/02/13 01:34 AM
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They aren't interchangeable terms. When running a 100m dash the finish line is the goal, but a medal is the reward. Seduction is like a race in that regard: attraction is the finish line, and until you reach it you cannot claim your reward i.e. sex.
/r/seduction25/02/13 01:30 AM
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No, OP is right. Attraction is the goal. Healthy relationships, like sex, are a reward for creating attraction. Believe me, you're not going to develop a healthy relationship with a woman before you've created attraction.
/r/seduction25/02/13 01:26 AM
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You should be assuming attraction and escalating. It's better to beg forgiveness than ask for permission.
/r/seduction20/10/12 12:04 AM
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Womanese: "Are you a player?" Translation: "Why am I so turned on by you right now?"
/r/seduction18/07/12 12:37 AM
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I think the author of this article has buried the lede: this isn't a racist attack it's a transphobic one. I wager the attackers were outraged that a transgendered "man" was using a women's facility, and that is what led to the violence. Interpreting this through a racial lens distracts from the more salient issue: a man was brutally assaulted by two women for engaging in behavior women routinely enjoy. When's the last time you attended the cinema or a sporting event and women WEREN'T cavalierly…
/r/MensRights23/04/11 08:29 PM
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I'm assuming that Jim Goad isn't a big fan of The Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
/r/MensRights05/04/11 09:51 PM
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When I run hotel game I always place luggage in all of the room's chairs so that the only seating option is the bed.
/r/seduction05/04/11 04:28 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/seduction29/03/11 06:13 PM
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Start by reading the links on the right-hand side of the screen adjacent to the bold text "NEW HERE?" Seek and ye shall find.
/r/seduction27/03/11 09:14 AM
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Don't worry about looking like a tool--that's approval seeking mentality at its worst. Instead, approach with confidence, build attraction, isolate, escalate, and close.
/r/seduction27/03/11 08:28 AM
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Wow. Master class FR. I'm sure bookshop girl felt like she was the protagonist in her very own romance novel ;) Also, you've got to be a candidate for the title of "Most Interesting Man in the World": lock-picking, parkour, thunderstorms. Hot damn! I really appreciate the way you weren't afraid to bust your HB's chops for falling asleep during Life of Bryan. Too many guys act like girls with remotely good taste are the second coming. Women SHOULD enjoy quality books, music, and movies. They SHOU…
/r/seduction27/03/11 08:24 AM
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Dont' try to get girls to "qualify themselves." Have normal conversations with them, and hold a dominant frame throughout. A girl giving you eyes in discussion group doesn't really need to be "gamed." She's into you. Assume attraction and have fun with the interaction.
/r/seduction26/03/11 11:42 PM
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Excellent FR. It really exemplifies the principle that "you [the man] are the prize." You didn't try to impress this girl by taking her out, spending money on her, or trying to amuse her with routines or canned material. Your time and attention were ENOUGH to convince her to sleep with you. You talk a lot about "negging" in your FR, and I know you're going to get grief for it because that tactic has fallen out of favor in the pick-up community. As I see it, what you were really doing when you "n…
/r/seduction26/03/11 07:56 PM
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Post it on r/Mensrights--it's right up their alley. We at Seddit don't need to rage; we are the answer.
/r/seduction26/03/11 07:31 AM
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I wrote a mini-guide on dance floor game a couple of months ago. It's fairly comprehensive.
/r/seduction25/03/11 08:25 AM
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Imagine yourself in your hypothetical girl's position: you are sitting on the subway reading or listening to music. Would you be offended if an attractive and engaging girl interrupted you to chat? Probably not. Women DREAM of the day when Prince Charming will materialize out of thin air and sweep them off their feet. They have been conditioned by sitcoms and romantic comedies to believe that "meet-cutes" on the train or in the library are the only legitimate ways to meet "the one." Reframe this…
/r/seduction24/03/11 11:25 PM
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That's about 10% more formal than my in-person speech, but it's a pretty accurate indicator of how I actually sound. I'm a fairly nerdy guy, but in the field I balance it out with a wicked sense of humor and a bold approach. A girl once told me I talked like a professor, but she told me in bed the morning after. So I took it as a compliment ;)
/r/seduction24/03/11 10:44 PM
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Agreed. Feeling like you've been an integral part of someone else's good time is an AMAZING feeling. Creating "positives" for everyone around me is the type of social dominance I'm interested in.
/r/seduction24/03/11 09:27 PM
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I might now ;)
/r/seduction24/03/11 09:08 PM
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Thanks! I have a rule that whenever I bring a girl back to my place I take off an article of clothing as soon as we step inside. It helps to set the frame that ALL our clothes are coming off later ;) I usually start small with something like my shoes or belt so that things don't get weird, but I make a point of ensuring that my date sees what I'm doing. I want her accept the reality that clothes are coming off.
/r/seduction24/03/11 08:55 PM
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Haha! Very true. The great thing about my studies in seduction is that I was able to escalate once she initiated the location change to my place. 4 years ago I would have done nothing to capitalize on her obvious interest.
/r/seduction24/03/11 08:44 PM
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I stole the stuffed animal idea from Vin DiCarlo's Attraction Code. I thought it was incredibly stupid when I read it, but several days later my sister gave me Mr. Cushings. I figured I'd at least give it a shot--flash forward to it helping me get laid! Just goes to show that you should NEVER dismiss seduction advice until you field test it!
/r/seduction24/03/11 08:43 PM
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In Los Angeles actually, but I'd love to sarge in Canada someday. It's on the bucket list ;)
/r/seduction24/03/11 08:40 PM
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Your post-blowout thought process was correct: the type of girl who leads off with that level of bitchiness is not someone you want to spend time with. Don't even bother trying to formulate a witty comeback. Something as simple as, "Wow, you're very rude," is more than sufficient. After that, walk away and don't look back. Engaging her in a verbal sparring match would do nothing to open the set or build attraction, and it would likely further disrupt your state by giving her an opportunity to ma…
/r/seduction22/03/11 11:19 AM
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Roger Dodger starring Jesse Eisenberg, Isabella Rossellini, and Campbell Scott.
/r/seduction15/03/11 10:08 AM
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Roger Dodger This movie introduced me to seduction before I knew what seduction was. Watch this movie. Enjoy this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEoNiDo1l8A
/r/seduction07/03/11 06:29 AM
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Essential oils are a nice alternative to colognes. I have a vial of Kiehls brand "musk" that I dab on my wrists, neck, and behind my ears everyday. You can't smell it unless you're within kissing distance, so it's not likely to overwhelm any passersby. But I've found that once a woman is close enough to catch a whiff she is enraptured by it and feels compelled to come in closer for a better sniff. In effect, the scent prompts her to kino escalate ME. I prefer to wear the same scent everyday beca…
/r/seduction27/01/11 09:02 PM
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Being in "state" during pick-up is like being in "the zone" while playing sports. It improves your performance, imbues you with confidence, and makes the most difficult tasks seem effortless. However, you can't count on it. Sometimes you have to play the game irrespective of how you're feeling. High level pick-up artistry equips you with the beliefs and skills necessary to engage in seduction even when you're feeling timid, lethargic, or anxious. Like coach used to say: "sometimes you got to pla…
/r/seduction27/01/11 01:38 AM
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To build on Tofu's excellent advice: make sure your room is conducive to seduction before you leave for the evening. Your first priority should be cleanliness. Do not leave dirty towels or laundry on the floor or bed. Do not leave your suitcase on the floor or by the bed. Place your luggage and clothing in the closet and close the closet door. If you bring a girl to the room she will likely make a beeline to the restroom to "freshen up." Don't let its condition make her uncomfortable or give her…
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:59 PM
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Thanks for the post. I'm reading through this material now. It is a lot more lucid and insightful than Gunwich's reputation led me to believe it would be. Haters, give this stuff at least a cursory read before jumping to conclusions. You might be pleasantly surprised at the clarity and sensibility of this method.
/r/seduction26/01/11 12:39 AM
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When you approach your target take her gently by the hand and walk her to the dance floor without breaking stride. You can also place you hand at the small of her back near the waist to lead her onto the floor. If you do this casually and smoothly she will likely follow. If she resists keep walking as if nothing has happened. No need to draw attention to rejection. I prefer to begin dancing face-to-face so that I can make eye contact with my target and signal my intentions. After a few moments I…
/r/seduction25/01/11 09:51 PM
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Which "limiting belief" do you think is most dangerous to the aspiring PUA?
/r/seduction25/01/11 12:59 AM
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Make eye contact with the target with whom you want to dance. Walk slowly and purposefully towards her. When you reach her lead her silently by the waist or hand onto the floor and begin dancing. If your target is already on the floor simply lead her one or two steps further along the dance surface to create the impression of isolation. DO NOT ASK a girl if she wants to dance unless you are at a wedding or formal event. Women at the disco want to be swept off their feet by an alpha not pirouette…
/r/seduction24/01/11 11:01 PM
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Redefine "failure." The transformation from AFC to PUA doesn't happen overnight. Don't think that you've "failed" just because you didn't close on your approaches. Real failure is the unwillingness to take the risks required for growth. You clearly are taking steps in the right direction. Your FR demonstrates that you are managing AA fairly well, and you've internalized some basic lessons about social proofing. Talking to friends, friends-of-friends, and other men in the bar is a great way to ma…
/r/seduction23/01/11 01:02 PM
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If the men I'm in the field with aren't skilled wingmen I don't hesitate to sarge solo. I will make reference to them during an approach for social proofing purposes, but I feel that if I call them "pussies" or other insulting names I effectively undermine whatever social proofing they might have conferred. If I am out by myself I try not to make any reference to absent friends because it tends to draw negative attention to the fact that I am alone. If pressed on the matter I prefer to say somet…
/r/seduction21/01/11 03:24 AM
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Here is a thought exercise: what if you feeling "bummed" is not the result of, but the cause of, your rejection? I know that seems to defy the rules of causality, but hear me out. The fact that you are "bummed" by your rejection suggests that you were unduly emotionally invested in the outcome of your pick-up. Women are finely tuned to detect a man's level of emotional investment, and too much too soon comes across as neediness, and it repulses them. Better to have a devil-may-care attitude to p…
/r/seduction21/01/11 01:39 AM
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If your intention when going out is pick-up you would do well to bring along different friends. I generally try to avoid ditching my friends in the field because, presumptively, they are more important to me than any stranger I might cold approach. Also, I never disparage my friends in front of targets. First, it's disloyal--even if it's true. Secondly, you are judged by the company that you keep--so if your friends are "pussies" you are as well by association. And thirdly, is sets the frame tha…
/r/seduction21/01/11 01:18 AM
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