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| 3 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Was there anything scientific that influenced this view, or was/is it just a theory based on your personal opinion/experiences? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 01:30 AM |
| 3 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Huh, well it's sexist, although I suppose it benefits women more than men so that's unexpected. If you don't mind me asking, what reasons/arguments do you have to support the idea that men are better than women, or is it just an opinion of yours/a theory? I don't plan to viciously debate you over it, I'm just curious! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:54 AM |
| 3 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Huh, interesting. Why's that? I at least try to hold them to equal standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | The objectification of womenlol yeah I wasn't sure! And I know how you feel about makeup...sometimes I feel like if I cut my hair and didn't wear makeup I would literally be a solid 5/10, but I can't bring myself to go there lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:36 AM |
| 3 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Women don't face the same stigma at all, that's a good point. It doesn't determine which cheater I think is worse (they're both bad) but you do raise an interesting point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?I prefer dick derby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:26 AM |
| 1 | The objectification of womenOh, you dont' have to have the same views as me, I totally respect your right to feel how you feel. I am assuming you're prettier than me though, if you looked like me you'd probably not care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?I can get behind some of it but when phrases like "gina tingles" come out of the woodwork I just can't deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:17 AM |
| 1 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Fair enough. What about if the woman is honest about the cheating, but stays because the man still wants her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?I technically hit the wall when my 14-year-old theater club boyfriend made me an alpha widow, so I've been post wall for like 10 years. Thanks for understanding my plight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:11 AM |
| 2 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Huh, that is very interesting. I am infinitely more pissed off when men cheat and leave than if they cheat and stay, but for women it seems equally bad both ways? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:09 AM |
| 1 | The objectification of womenHaha, yeah for me it's been super gradual, I'm committed to someone now and I'm still looking to be more attractive in a multitude of ways. I'm also a girly girl so that kind of self improvement is fun for me. I guess it makes me view sexuality differently because I still feel weirdly flattered to be considered attractive at all so if all I get is a subtle check-out, it's flattering and I never feel put upon or like I'm "not being taken seriously." Because I remember how horrible it was to be un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Yeah, basically what I said lol. And of course since "carousel" means more than one sexual partner ever, that has to be true, and because I'm over the age of 18 I'm automatically ugly, so they're not entirely wrong! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/15 12:00 AM |
| 2 | The objectification of womenOh, to each their own! :) I was just considered ugly for such a long portion of my life (basically untouchable to boys until I was 14, and even then I was an embarrassment) that I don't have the same attitude about sexual attention that a lot of women of my current attractiveness level do. For example I have never once complained that I'm not being taken seriously, because I know what the alternative feels like and it SUCKS. Being ugly is sooo much worse. The "smile" thing does irritate me thoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?They're more likely to say I'm just lying or that there's some crazy under-layer of this that I'm not mentioning, like how before I wound up with SO, I took delicious pleasure in friendzoning a bunch of betas who I still owe sex to or something. Or the most likely explanation: that the only reason I desire my SO is that I'm ugly and he's hot, and dating me is part of his plan to keep control (Note: we are almost definitely evenly matched, but I'm aware that as a woman I apparently don't have eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:53 PM |
| 2 | The objectification of womenPersonally I dont' feel violated, more just like...hmm, better tread carefully. lol. I never really consciously take efforts to avoid it though, unless I know I'll be walking in a really bad area of town. Different strokes. I have crossed the street over it before but usually because it was more than just a look or a "hey sexy" and it was actually repeated harrassment despite me ignoring them. I don't know how people can defend that or call me shallow for not being interested at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Yeah, same with us. He also has to put, like, zero effort into getting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:46 PM |
| 2 | If someone is horribly betrayed by their SO, does your attitude toward the victim change depending on their gender?Is your reaction the same for women who get cheated on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:45 PM |
| 2 | The objectification of womenOh, I see what you mean. I guess my danger-flag goes up when strangers do it, regardless of how attractive they are, especially since I'm not looking for that. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but whatever. That said, there's a difference between being subtley checked out versus leered at. The subtle look can't really be controlled, but the leer is a determined act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:39 PM |
| 2 | How often do women cheat? When they do, for what reasons do they cheat?Their word is usually someting that makes them look like the victim, like "emotional neglect", not that it can't be true, but I take anyone's self-reported reason with a grain of salt, male or female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:38 PM |
| 1 | How often do women cheat? When they do, for what reasons do they cheat?How often? Probably as often, or almost as often, as men cheat. Reasons? It's been shown that it's usually because they felt "emotionally neglected" in some way, but I don't think that's any more of a valid excuse than men who claimed they cheated because of unexciting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:36 PM |
| 3 | How do hot women generally end up with hot men?Yeah I don't see why that last point would be a big deal. I don't know my 1-10 number, but I do have a basic idea of the men who are of equal attractiveness to me. If a guy is good-looking and interested in me, and another guy isn't good looking, why wouldn't I choose the good looking guy? I mean, I'm in a relationship now, but assuming I wasn't... Also, my SO is about as good-looking as I am, and we connect very well mentally too. It's kind of common sense. Why would I have chosen someone less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:31 PM |
| 1 | The objectification of womenI have to push back here- my SO objectifies me and that's awesome. It helps that I know that he also sees me as a full person, but there are times when he sees me as one giant walking butt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:28 PM |
| 1 | A Feminist's Perspective on 50 ShadesYeah, pretty much every woman admits that average is the best or that they don't care. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:25 PM |
| 2 | A Feminist's Perspective on 50 ShadesI agree with your last point- and it's not even just porn. Nobody in their right mind would consider Don's marriage to Betty in Mad Men to be feminist or politically correct, but it was interesting to watch nonetheless. Nobody is going to argue that selling meth is a good thing to do, but we all enjoyed Breaking Bad. 50 shades is no different to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:25 PM |
| 0 | A Feminist's Perspective on 50 ShadesI'm not a fan of 50 shades by any means, but certain feminist pleas to ban it, or criticize women who enjoy it because it "glorifies abuse" make no sense to me. I don't believe art/fiction has to portray something perfect or healthy-in fact it would be a lot less interesting if it did- and that conflict makes it interesting to the people who enjoy it. What I really wonder is if anyone would have complained about this 10 years ago. Probably not. Things are getting way out of hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:24 PM |
| 1 | How accurate is this adage at describing a difference in sexuality for men and women?Just to be clear- I assume you got married to Example 1 after examples 2-4 happened? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:14 PM |
| 3 | An earnest question for RPW; how much do you agree with red pill men and their game?Not RP, but I've had moments of identifying as somewhat red pill. The stuff TRP says about women isn't totally untrue, it's just untrue if we pretend it only applies to women, or doesn't apply to men just as badly. To say that women are more heartless and less empathetic than men, for example, makes no sense considering men commit far more violent crimes than women do. There is no actual evidence to suggest women are emotionally/mentally inferior to men in any way. If a red piller said "Men and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Exactly, it's what my SO gets, and he's a very good looking guy. When he was single he had maybe 5% the amount of sex he has now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:09 PM |
| 1 | If gender is nothing but a social construct, how do you explain transsexuals?I don't believe gender is a social construct, at least not mostly. I'm not saying no blue pillers think this, but too often I see BP conflated with radical feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you support positive discrimination in favor of women? (Feminism as liberation vs. feminism as egalitarianism)I don't support positive discrimination for women. I consider myself a feminist (usually). I disagree with a great deal of third-wave feminism though, this being one of the things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Okay, but this is assuming that every guy (or most guys) who get married are ugly or less attractive on average than single men. Not only is there no proof of this, but I haven't even casually observed it. In fact it's been the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Take a good look at the marriage announcements, people's wedding photos, etc. Is every single groom unattractive? lol The married or committed guys I know in real life are usually better-looking than the single ones. Anecdata, sure, but that's usually all TRP goes on, so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Not to mention finding a high-drive LTR partner means way more sex than having one-off one night stands with one person a month? If a guy has a high sex drive, he'll have way more sex within a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Me personally? No, not really, because I've never had a one-night stand. In fact, the less reliable/"dangerous" a guy seems, the less I would have been interested in sleeping with him once, because it would feel like wasting my "number" on someone who would provide nothing worthwhile in the long run (by this I don't mean money, I mean commitment). However I know plenty of women do have one night stands. I think for those women, a guy who is good-looking but whose personality is kind of boring/un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 10:56 PM |
| 3 | How do hot women generally end up with hot men?I'm surprised anyone is even wondering this, but women have physical standards just like men do. Just because women care about things other than looks more than men do doesn't mean women don't care about looks a lot. Attractive women have a lot of options- if a guy is confident but not good-looking, he's still competing for her attention against guys who are confident and good-looking. Of course she's going to choose the good-looking guy. Especially since women can financially provide for oursel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/15 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Feminism is not a dating strategy.Not sure if my opinion even matters here since I'm not a radical feminist or a red piller, but my personal view is that you're allowed to be attracted to whatever you want- you just can't go criticize the othe gender for being "shallow" if you don't fit into their standards. I see this on both sides- both the BBW women who think fit/thin men are shallow for preferring their equivalents- and the neckbeards who pursue attractive women and then get angry that those attractive women don't want a nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/15 01:33 AM |
| 6 | Feminism is not a dating strategy.Even though at times in my life, I've identified as feminist solely because I believe women shouldn't be treated differently from men on a legal/workplace scale, this is one of the better arguments against feminism that I've heard. Although, my feminism never really included these weird reactionary viewpoints, but I'm always surprised at how common they are. Especially the physical standards thing. As for "slut shaming" my personal view (not that anyone cares) is that you're allowed to not be se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/15 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Question mostly for red pill but all views are welcome - what are your views on polyamory?It's against my religion, so personally I'm against it, but my religious views aside (or better yet- before I was religious) I felt it was fine as long as both partners were aware of it and OK with it. But even back then I knew it was something I could never do or be OK with, within my personal relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/15 01:26 AM |
| 2 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?Well I disagree with that person a lot, lol. In my experience people labeled as blue or non-red pill here aren't even necessarily feminists but I'm sure there are a few radicals who slip through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?Yeah, I'm lucky in that regard but there are other things about my vag that I totally hate. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/15 06:38 PM |
| 2 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?True, but people on PPD dont tend to be that vicious, same way the red pillers here tend not to be raving misogynists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/15 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Considering I probably fall into the two categories of woman that you mentioned, maybe that's why it doesn't seem so obvious to me. I don't really believe anyone who tells me I'm hot because I really hate a lot of things about myself (no need for a pity party, it's just how I am) I definitely think men are given more reality checks than women, but like a red piller would say, there is a certain "hamster" that tends to occur with both genders. If a guy isn't doing well with women, he may not say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/15 06:22 PM |
| 5 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?I feel like it's not so much about the stimulation and more about people's bodies. Not to be TMI, but after a large orgasm or 2 "rolling waves" of one I'm extremely sensitive and I pretty much shut down like a man would. But I'll look into it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/15 12:47 AM |
| 2 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?What's IRC? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:28 PM |
| 3 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?That, or overly defensive and unnecessary use of the term "fuck" Example: "My husband and I are really happy together." "My husband and I are really fucking happy together!" This is the same reason I never believe it when women are like "I look really fucking young for my age, and I don't even wear moisturizer and wash my face!" Sure. No pic? Yeah. Didn't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:21 PM |
| 8 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?Another thing that irks me is the whole "made her come 6 times" stuff. I'm a woman, I know tons of women, and having tons and tons of multiple orgasms (on a ONS no less) is extremely rare. The BEST sex I ever had (in a relationship) I maybe had 2. I know the Internet is full of people whose sex lives are the 1% (everyone's penis is 9", every woman is "too tight for tampons", and everyone has multiple orgasms) but there's no way this stuff is that common. Or, women are faking it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:20 PM |
| 3 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?Honestly? I would say the same amount of stories that are skewed/exaggerated from TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:04 PM |
| 6 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?I'm not the person you're responding to, but just wanted to point out that if someone isn't pro-TRP, that doesn't make them a feminist necessarily and definitely doesn't make them the type of person who goes around talking about male privilege and #killallmen, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:04 PM |
| 11 | What % of field reports on TRP do you think are fake?I think most of the stories are true but exaggerated. If a guy goes home with a girl who is a 6/10 and fingers her, he'll say she was an 8/10 and they had sex. It's awfully telling that TRP insists 9/10 women are unicorns but every other success story on TRP is about an HB9. Also, I think people look for what they want to see- so people will post tons of (true) stories about their CC-riding ball busting ex wife, but won't have any reason to mention all the decent women they meet in day-to-day be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?That's true, although TRP seems concerned enough with morality when they're talking about paternity fraud or divorce laws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Since I have fairly bad anxiety about my appearance I tend to be phobic of TRP, it's spun me into a few panic episodes before (to be clear, I'm not blaming TRP: I have a physiological problem with my brain) so I try to avoid it for that reason. I know it's not meant for me and it usually just upsets me and makes me feel worthless. again, not the fault of TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?In some cases, but I wouldn't say it always does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:20 PM |
| -1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"Well when you are debating someone, pretty much everyone is keen to point out the most absurd, extremist quotes/deeds from that side to back up their argument. See: anti-religion atheists. They're not going to say "Okay, a few people go crazy in the name of religion but most churchgoers are just normal people." No, they're going to find the Westborough Baptist Church and other maniacs and say that's why they're against religion- because even if the MAJORITY of religious people are normal there a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Well, by history I mean stuff he's said on this exact thread, but ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:13 PM |
| 3 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?I agreed with you when I first saw this thread, but after seeing a few of the RP responses I can concur that TRP doesn't officially promote or endorse cheating. I do think, however that you're going to find more people openly endorsing it on TRP than in the general public but I still don't think that's the majority of TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Yeah, I think I was too quick to agree with OP on this one. Since TRP is fairly concerned with honor and integrity they may not be pro-cheating on the whole. That said, there are a few really vocal red pillers and/or articles that may give off that impression to people like me who don't frequent TRP that often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?I'd let him answer this for himself- in his posting history he says the greatest thrill in life is cheating on your girlfriend, so I wouldn't be so quick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?My bad, I guess, I thought he was RP due to the fact that he answered for TRP. I'm not sure where he got "goody two shoes" from TRP but ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:59 PM |
| -1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?From his other posts he made it clear he didn't care about morality, so I thought that was his mindset. I could be wrong. Either way he doesn't appear to be against cheating. He's free to correct me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:57 PM |
| -2 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"Well if they're actually criminals they're not innocent then? Do you mean "suspects"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?See below, he just confirmed no interest in debating with me. I could tell from his post that unlike you and I, he wasn't particularly interested in debating morality. If one person is moral and the other is amoral, a debate isn't going to go anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?I think that's one of the biggest disconnects here, actually. We see the posts on TRP that are probably the most insane, meanwhile the guys here willing to debate are probably pretty reasonable, but they get defensive when they feel like they have to defend unreasonable views they believe only a minority on TRP holds. Then again I'm constantly being asked to defend radical feminist bogus and I don't even identify as blue pill, so whatever lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:40 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Good on you for no longer being OK with cheating, but what about "cheating is wrong because it hurts people"? I feel like regardless of gender it's fairly important not to want to cause distress to others. If the person you're with is horrible enough that they deserve to be in emotional pain, breaking up seems like the better option IMO. I majorly agree with you that it's absurd to condone cheating but then also build all your points on the idea that you are an honorable person. I always wondere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Yeah, by the opinion of red pillers on this sub you'd think RoK was the official website for the KKK and they wanted nothing to do with it. I wonder why it's so heavily linked to and promoted on TRP? Either the red pillers on this sub are a lot more reasonable than the people on TRP, or something doesn't fit. In case anyone wants to get on me for being unfair, I happily trot out Jezebel when I want to show the more extreme sides of feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Uh, what would I even start with: cheating is wrong? That's so blatantly obvious that it's not worth it. Also, he responded to someone else's OP, there's no indication he wants a discussion with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:23 PM |
| -1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"In that case we don't disagree. All I'm saying is that nobody should physically continue to initiate sex if their partner isn't interested. Maybe I don't understand the concept of LMR- I just consider "No" to be a firm indicator of "not interested" (or "not tonight/I'm sick/I'm tired" etc) Now, if someone is in a situation where the partner is deliberately withholding sex (which is a really horrible thing to do) then in that case it's not a matter of trying another time, but ending the relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:21 PM |
| -5 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"Or the top TRP post "women are shit" but I'm sure there are some reasons why we either shouldn't take it seriously or why it doesn't at all mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:18 PM |
| 0 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?I actually did respond to that guy, but you asked for evidence that red pillers support cheating and I provided another example. I agree that the CMV topic would be a better one for this thread, but I'm also not the OP, so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:15 PM |
| 2 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?lol you think I'm the OP of this thread? Please look up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:15 PM |
| -1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"He had 7 last time I checked, but all I was trying to say is that there are red pillers (not necessarily the majority) who discredit accurate statistics on sexual violence, or who don't think it's a big deal because this supposed horde of white knights will protect any damsel in distress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:14 PM |
| -1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"What's ideal then, in your view? Just do whatever you want and don't ever listen to your partner? If my SO says no to sex one night, he'll usually give an actual reason which will give me some clue on when I should try next. Besides, if you're talking about verbal nagging instead of actual physical force, that's not rape at all, it's just annoying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:13 PM |
| 3 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Oh, look what I found on this actual thread. Apparently cheating is good if a guy does it: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2vkcfo/question_for_trpers_why_do_you_try_to_justify_men/coig2b5 But let me guess...it's a feminist strawman troll, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Plenty of women have inflated senses of attractiveness, that's for sure. There's just no evidence that men aren't just as delusional other than people's opinions. See, for example, all the dudes here and on TRP who wouldn't even consider a woman below a 7, even when they admit they're not 7s themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:05 PM |
| 0 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"You keep posting this in various semi-improved iterations, but I had a link, so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:02 PM |
| 0 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Okay, so next time you see a feminist going on an insane tirade and want to use it as an example of feminist extremism, would it be logical for me to say "Nah, how do you know she isn't just pretending to be a feminist as part of an elaborate social experiment and she's actually Ann Coulter and she's going to turn this reddit thread into a book?" Don't play stupid. You know the statistical chances of someone being polyamorous are greatly outweighed by the chances that they're just cheating. Chea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"Do you have a link? I do: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2v1fdk/raising_your_boys_to_be_husband_material_or_why_i/codzpra Plenty of other posts in that thread delegitimizing violence against women or saying rape is made up, etc etc. Just scroll around and enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"I can actually link you to what I saw: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2v1fdk/raising_your_boys_to_be_husband_material_or_why_i/codzpra | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:54 PM |
| 5 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Any evidence that his wife knows about all this and is polyamorous? In fact since he specifically says spinning plates is too much drama, I'm going to guess he's not polyamorous. If he were, there wouldn't be much drama to speak of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Because, like men, women are allowed to have physical standards. My sympathy for either gender is gone when the physical standards outmatch reality, and the person is still complaining that the hot people he/she pursues are "shallow" because they don't want to date/sex an average joe/jane. It's not that women want to be treated badly, just that the guys who are most likely to treat them badly get to do that because they are in-demand because they are good-looking. I'm not going to say women alwa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?Okay: "I'm married, in a LTR, and don't spin plates unless they are pay to play, don't need the drama." "When I got back to my room, it was like moths to a flame to get these girls to want to go out for drinks." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Yeah, exactly. Women are driven by our desire for commitment and companionship, I mentioned that several times. I never said women were equally as motivated by sex as men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Some might, it sounds pretty gross to me and doubt I'm that much of an outlier. I guess for many women, it's a temporary high that washes out to intense feelings of worthlessness later. I can't imagine having a one night stand and feeling good about it the next day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:33 PM |
| 8 | Question for TRPers: why do you try to justify men cheating but condemn women when they do it?This guy seems to cheat on his wife practically as a hobby, nobody cares, in fact people cheer him on: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2vh72z/beta_bux_is_a_real_sexual_strategy_tinder/ This red pill site helps guys recover when they're caught cheating, because obviously they did nothing wrong: http://www.returnofkings.com/35633/what-to-do-when-youre-caught-cheating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:30 PM |
| 4 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"To be fair this is an issue where red pillers don't always agree, but my belief is that a no is always a no, and if you perservere past a no, then you're assaulting someone or at best, invading someone's boundaries. Of course, to some guys on TRP, all rape is made up by women unless it happens in some dank basement by a guy wearing a clown mask. I'm not one of those women who calls everything rape/assault or who never questions the veracity of rape claims- I've certainly seen some fishy ones, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Powering through LMR becomes potential assault when it's done in an everyday-threatening way, even if she "can say no any second"Pretty much. I saw someone here say that "1-0%" of men have ever stalked a woman, and even if they did, a white knight was bound to emerge out of nowhere to protect the devious female faux-victim. They also got upvoted quite a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?A few things: 1.) Women are told all the time to be ourselves, never change for a man, "tons of men love bigger girls/short hair etc" and just by looking around us, it's fairly easy to see that advice is BS. I don't know why guys need TRP to realize women like men who are in-shape and masculine, but if they get help from TRP that's great. 2.) Loneliness is certain a suicide/depression factor, as is lack of sex I suppose, but it's more complicated. First of all, teenagers are prone to suicidal th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Being a beta to get the girl? Do you think this is an effective strategy?Just pointing out that this guy cheats on his wife constantly, admits it, doesn't care, and nobody on TRP has a problem with it. Yep, but it's the women who are incapable of loyalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Some people probably would, but you have to remember that BP/non-RP doesn't equal "tumblr feminist" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?I agree with all this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 04:05 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this article?I know you probably don't trust my opinion since I'm a woman, but women are also primarily motivated by looks, at least for sex/at first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 02:42 AM |
| 1 | GreenPillChat: A subreddit test-runOk, I'm in! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 01:39 AM |
| 1 | GreenPillChat: A subreddit test-runSounds fun. I'd join. I'm sure there'd still be a lot of debate, though :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 01:24 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about this article?I don't totally disagree. TRP wouldn't exist or need to exist if sleeping around was considered as much of a taboo as having sex with goats. Because the ratio of men and women is fairly 50-50, this would mean everyone would wind up with someone else, no 80/20 rule, etc. But of course, many societies have attempted this and it never turns out well because it goes against people's fundamental nature. I personally believe that men are just as disloyal and hypergamous as women. Human nature isn't go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 01:22 AM |
| 8 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?Materialistic women are absolutely entitled. I know several women who told their boyfriends, who already said they were planning on proposing, that they were only okay with a certain type of ring (preferably Tiffany's). That's entitlement city. If you're marrying the love of your life you should be happy with any ring he picks out. The concept of "upgrades" for rings is either entitled or just horribly materialistic or both, I can't decide. Normally sex-related entitlement happens with men and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 01:15 AM |
| 30 | Why do Bluepillers/Feminists insist on throwing around the word "entitled"?I'm not necessarily blue pill, but I'll say this: he's not necessarily a douche or "baby" or anything like that. It's terribly sad that this happened. I don't believe that men who are depressed over their love lives are necessarily bad people. But I will venture that he was probably suffering from something far deeper than not getting laid and that I'm really not looking forward to everyone claiming that it's women's fault for not sleeping with him. Why am I not blaming women for this? Well, fir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 12:54 AM |
| 6 | Apparently I do not exist, and neither do the vast majority of women I know. That's weird.Even though I'm not a red piller, my experience as a woman and knowing women is that we absolutel do like dominant, masculine men. That said, only an extremely cocky woman would derive any enjoyment from "negs." I already hate a lot of things about myself so a neg would just make me cry and run home. Also, it doesn't really matter what you say because TRP doesn't believe women know anything about themselves or that we ever tell the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Women of PPD: What is your income ratio to your LTR mate or husband?Hm, currently it's about equal. There were times when I made 0 and he made $60K There wre also times when he made 0 and I made $30K | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/15 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Red & Blue Pillers: Is feminism "equal rights and equal treatment under the law", or is it something else?Yep. I greatly disagree with the radical feminist stance that trans people are "appropriating gender" or that all PiV is rape. To them, I'm not a "real feminist." To some red pillers, I'm a crazy radfem feminazi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Ok fair enough- I'm surprised the first point is considered controversial. It looks like we agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Is it hypocritical/illogical to only be attracted to people out of your league, but then get angry at those people for wanting to date other hot people?Oh, possibly. I do see a really high concentration of "this girl I like is a 9/10" on TRP when we all know 9s are supermodels and not hanging around in abundance at your average college campus. Then there's always the reverse, where Scarlett Johanssen is a 2/10 because her nose is uneven or something. I've seen that too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Is it hypocritical/illogical to only be attracted to people out of your league, but then get angry at those people for wanting to date other hot people?I regularly see guys, even on this sub, say they're unable to accept anything below a 7/8 despite being far below that themselves. So, I'm not talking abotu guys who want to date their equal and not date "down". I'm talking abotu guys who admit to being repulsed by their physical equal, but get angry at women who also have high standards. Also, in the hypothetical scenario you described, the 7/8 men probably won't commit to the 5 woman. So if the 5 woman wants commitment, she'll pretty much be f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 08:04 PM |
| 0 | Is it hypocritical/illogical to only be attracted to people out of your league, but then get angry at those people for wanting to date other hot people?You're not the kind of person I'm talking about since you're reasonable about this kind of thing. I'm also aware that this double standard is not officially promoted by TRP. I just see it quite often in posts/comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 08:01 PM |
| 0 | Is it hypocritical/illogical to only be attracted to people out of your league, but then get angry at those people for wanting to date other hot people?Yeah, I mentioned that in the OP. TRP does say that, but many of their followers apparently disagree, due to the rage that girls, much like themselves, want to date attractive people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Is it hypocritical/illogical to only be attracted to people out of your league, but then get angry at those people for wanting to date other hot people?That's all true, but if TRP is to believed (and I agree with this) men want sex and women want commitment/companionship. Men can get companionship without sex (friendship) with women more attractive than they are. Women can get sex without commitment with men more attractive than they are. But they don't really want or prioritize these things. Women usually don't aspire to have casual sex. They simply mistake sexual interest for commitment interest. At the end of the day, if a 5/10 woman wants c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Red & Blue Pillers: Is feminism "equal rights and equal treatment under the law", or is it something else?Who even knows what feminism is now? Everyone has their own definition. Some people will say they aren't feminists, feminists will roll in and say, "What, so you think women are inferior to men?" So just as well start thinking, "Okay, feminism just means women aren't inferior to men" other feminists roll in and say "If you can't stand up for womxn who identify as genderfreaky/genderkitten then you're not a REAL feminist!" or "If you don't have a problem with SI magazine covers you aren't a REAL … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 07:42 PM |
| 0 | Study confirms that women who wait too long risk being left on the shelfAnyone with unrealistic expectations should expect this could happen to them. I agree with the article, but I'd say the same about the many red pill dudes who will only deign to date 18 year olds who are 7/10 or better. Eventually they are going to get to the point where those women find them repulsive. No, I don't care to hear about how all your 60-year-old uncles are married to 13-year-olds or whatever. Eventually men expire too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 07:22 PM |
| 13 | Blue Pillers: After being on here for a while, does TRP seem less extreme than what your first impression of it was or Reddit's general impression of it is?The red pillers on here, with an exception of a few, are less extreme than the ones I see on TRP- they're able to have civil debates with people who disagree with them without spouting gendered slurs, so obviously they're fairly reasonable, normal dudes. I even enjoy chatting with some of them. TRP is still just as hateful as I always knew it was, but I don't think that every single guy who reads there is going to be that hateful, especially not the ones who come here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:I agree very much with your first point- growing up I believed it was always the man who cheated or divorced the wife, and I was shocked to realize how often women do both these things. So yeah, it's good that this knowledge is getting out there. Fair enough! But I'm not understanding how a man cheating isn't actually disloyal. Cheating is disloyal, I don't see how anyone could view it otherwise. When you marry someone you make a vow not to cheat on them. Regardless of your reasons or mindset be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:I definitely don't hold the power in my relationship. What's the evidence that women always hold the power? I believe when women cheat it may be more dangerous if A.) no birth control is being used and B.) she wants to leave her husband for the other guy, but that doesn't make men more honorable/loyal than women in any way, shape or form. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:54 PM |
| 1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?Just a weird long rant about how she's probably ugly, I forget but it was really intense lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:53 PM |
| 14 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?TRP does tell you do to this, but it still doesn't stop guys from feeling like they're victims of a betrayal because the girls they find attractive are way hotter than them, and surprise surprise, those girls want hot guys too. It's a really common hypocritical double standard I've seen on TRP, but I'm aware it's not TRP's official mantra, in fact it's pretty much the opposite- male "Hamstering" if you will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:It's probably about equal in reality- other sites have the numbers closer together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:I've believed for a while that men had higher sex drives than women on average- it makes sense because of the hormonal difference. But yeah, like you said, that doesn't justify cheating. In addition, tons of men cheat when they are also getting everything they say they want. If we took an informal poll of women whose husbands cheat, I bet a good amount of them weren' withholding sex or losing interest in sex. There are men (and women) out there who cheat solely out of boredom and self-interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 05:51 PM |
| 3 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?I can't tell exactly what this post means, but there's no real difference between a person's mouth size or mouth hygeine if they eat salad vs. sausage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 12:59 AM |
| 1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?Well, that escalated quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 12:58 AM |
| 0 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?You would be surprised at the weird things people think. In any case, it appears we agree anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/15 12:26 AM |
| 0 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?no one gets to see her snatch to judge her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:25 PM |
| 16 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Well, casual sex is easy for women to come by but we rarely want it. And many of us don't want it regardless of the man in question because casual sex does nothing for us (I have no interest in it, regardless). The problem is that women who are being pursued by a hotter guy for sex believe it's commitment, and that's why they may think that's their "league". I have major issues with hookup culture for many reasons, this being one of them, it's really screwed up the relations between the sexes. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:24 PM |
| 9 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Maybe it's not their official mantra, but even on this thread numerous people are spouting the idea that loyalty is inherently masculine (therefore women can't be loyal, lol ok) and that women cheat more than men. I don't even need to link to another thread to prove this. Just scroll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"How many per day? Because if it's more than 20, that means you're shelling out more than $100 every day on homeless people (and if you chat with all of them, that's another 200 minutes of your time every day). This amounts to more than $3,650 spent every year on homeless people. Would you say this is an accurate description of how you spend your money? In any case, giving is great, and I still do it, but what I'm trying to say is I'm not going to do favors for someone trying to insult me and/or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"It's great that you do that. The issue is, I don't live in a rural area. I see homeless people all the time At least 20 per day (not as bad as in some places, but still, more than in a rural town or nice suburb). So there are shelters, but there is also a huge inundation of homeless people, as there will be in any city or relatively metropolitan area. So no matter how much I care, it would be impossible for me to devote so much of my time and money on every single person I saw. That's one reason… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:11 PM |
| 1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?I'm still not really getting what you mean, but you can't tell how elastic/tight/loose a vagina is by looking at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 11:09 PM |
| 1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?The more you know! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 10:30 PM |
| 4 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Then the statistics would show it, but they dont. I only think they get away with it more easily since they are less likely to spend money on their affair partner and thus the husband is less likely to discover it via bank statements. There's no evidence to suggest they cheat more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 10:08 PM |
| 13 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Should women date their physical equivalent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 10:07 PM |
| 7 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?Doctors know more about the human body than ordinary people (including myself) do. Some people imagine stuff that is mostly psychological. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:They probably are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 09:47 PM |
| 4 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?I believe that the thread is real, I just trust doctors' input on this more than one woman on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 09:20 PM |
| 9 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?How are vag's naturally loose? It's all fairly relative... Also, I'm more inclined to believe a doctor over one anecdote on reddit- unless this guy's penis was as big as a baby's head I doubt it changed much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Okay, I agree with all of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Yeah, I don't entirely disagree- just because I'm not RP doesn't mean I'm a radfem either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:57 PM |
| 1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?So if a woman is married for 5 years her vagina will be flappier than a woman who was sleeping around for those 5 years, but having sex less frequently than the married woman? Side note: this does happen temporarily after/during sexual arousal due to blood flow and engorgement as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:52 PM |
| 6 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?I totally agree with your last point. I regularly tell the women I know that if they already make good money, a man's income should matter less but it rarely does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:44 PM |
| 4 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Fair enough on RoK, I believe Jezebel to be the RoK of feminism. They can find pretty much anything to spew manufactured outrage over. I don't care that TRP doesn't discuss male infidelity- it's more that on numerous occasions people have said either that women cheat more than men or that women are less loyal than men. Have you really never seen this? There are even people on this thread trying to justify that women either cheat more or for worse reasons- like cheating isn't bad regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:43 PM |
| 7 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:To be clear, I'm not anti-TRP. Some of the less hateful, more marriage-oriented red pill blogs are pretty spot on for men, although as a woman I'm not sure I'm qualified to give advice to men. As for women, I think the best thing you can do to prevent infidelity is still nowhere near 100% foolproof but: don't deprive him of sex, stay thin, and make it clear that infidelity isn't something you would forgive. Men are more likely to cheat when they think they'll be forgiven. I don't know if the sam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:41 PM |
| 2 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?Yeah, I'm pretty sure the bhole is less elastic than the vagina, considering it's built as a one-way door, physiologically speaking (not that people don't use it as a two-way door lol). But that's just my guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Hey, as long as you're accepting of other people having your mindset. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:23 PM |
| 6 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:No, men never do bad things, women only push them to it. When women do bad things it's just because they're showing their true nature! /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:So if a woman never deprives her husband of sex, there's no chance he'll ever cheat? Sorry, this isn't true. Plenty of men cheat just because they can, for sexual variety, or because they're just selfish jerks. Similarly, many women cheat just for self-interest when the husband has done nothing wrong. I could easily turn it around and say "Women cheat when they are being emotionally neglected, but men cheat just because they want to try something new and they want to upgrade their wife." But I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Sure: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2vb6we/womens_relationships_today_follow_a_very/cog2n7n Generally TRP repeatedly insist women cheat more than men and are less loyal/empathetic but there's basically no proof of this. Cheating isn't a male or female thing. And as for RoK, I can't find the article- nor do I want to link to that place- but they've had several articles teaching men how to cheat on their wives/girlfriends. I have no idea why they're discussing it other than to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:20 PM |
| 0 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?What do older women have to do with this? If a woman is 40 and married she isn't slutting it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:16 PM |
| 2 | All pills: What would your emotional response be if you are turned down by an attractive potential mate?I appreciate all the honesty! Historically I take rejection really personally, but unless there's a betrayal involved (like being cheated on) it would be weird to fault the other person for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:16 PM |
| 6 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?So let's say I weigh 300 lb, have short green hair and a giant dragon tattoo on my arm but I only want to date men who look like Ryan Gosling and all other men are invisible to me- if they're not extremely good looking they are ugly and untouchable. Is that ok? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 08:09 PM |
| 4 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:If your argument is that women are just as bad as men, then I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:57 PM |
| -1 | What's with people saying that women who sleep around have vaginas that are actually uglier/looser than the vaginas of women who don't? Is this meant to be literal?Woah, does the bhole actually get bigger from pooping? O.o | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:42 PM |
| 9 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Ok, fair enough, although I still feel like if guys on TRP deigned to date women who weren't HB9s they'd find way more girls who weren't spoiled brats, or whose behavior didn't go entirely unchecked. It's like women who get upset about guys all being douches, when the only men they go for are the top 5% who have all the opportunities at their feet. Of course they're going to be douches because everyone lets them! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:42 PM |
| 1 | All pills: What would your emotional response be if you are turned down by an attractive potential mate?Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:06 PM |
| 4 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?It seems like if they don't want girls who are shallow and self-absorbed, there are other girls that age in college who aren't sorority party girls who get wasted every weekend, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:05 PM |
| 6 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?What do you look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:04 PM |
| 8 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?Entitled bitches who will regret turning you down when your revenge comes in the form of natural aging, then she will turn 23 and will be untouchable by all "high quality men" /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 07:03 PM |
| 5 | "Obvious" advice of TRP and issues of credibility to the readerThanks, people tend to paint me as a feminazi here but I'm actually completely in the middle. I'm only non-RP because I greatly disagree with some stuff that goes on there, but I'm not anti-RP, if that makes sense. It serves its purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:57 PM |
| 1 | All pills: What would your emotional response be if you are turned down by an attractive potential mate?lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:56 PM |
| 1 | All pills: What would your emotional response be if you are turned down by an attractive potential mate?Interesting. What if the person was someone you actually knew quite well, but had no reason to believe you were sexually interested, so they weren't deliberately leading you on by being nice to you- then one day you admit your feelings and they say they aren't interested in you sexually. Does your response change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:54 PM |
| 4 | "Obvious" advice of TRP and issues of credibility to the readerThey say that stuff to women too, though. I've heard that I should never change for a man, men who want me to be fit are shallow jerks, men who like shaved pubes are pedos, men who like long hair are douchebags, etc etc. I still managed to look around me, figure out who men are attracted to, and get with the program. Even with all the "real women have curves" bogus I never felt like my weight didn't matter when it came to dating. I've never been fat, but during times when I was slightly out of s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:53 PM |
| 1 | In defense of not marrying 30 year olds.That's true, but that's assuming that many 25 year old women are lusting for a man 15 years older than her. They're not. It happens but it's exceedingly rare. Only 7% of women 15-44 are dating a man even 6 years older, and only 1% of marriages in the US have a man 20+ years older than the woman. I know every red piller has a gazillion old-ass uncles with 17 year old girlriends or whatever, but in all my years of living, I've only known one couple with a big age gap. Also, if the man is more than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:43 PM |
| 1 | In defense of not marrying 30 year olds.You said it better than I ever could. I don't know why they think all these yonug women are eager to marry guys their dad's age. I remember being pretty grossed out when I was 18 and I was being relentlessly pursued by a 28 year old. I liked guys 17-22 at that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:41 PM |
| 1 | In defense of not marrying 30 year olds.I don't think anyone was advocating for necessarily marrying people over 30. The divorce rate drops if both people are over 25 and less than 9 years apart in age. There's no benefit to marrying someone who is 30 vs 25. It's all pretty much the same after 25. That said, I would recommend you not get married at all if you are going to think your wife is ugly for the vast majority of your marriage. If you marry a woman when she's 20 (and presumably live till you're 80) then you only get a wife you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:40 PM |
| 2 | "Obvious" advice of TRP and issues of credibility to the readerYeah, I'm always surprised that "be in good shape" is something nobody realizes until they come to TRP. Who has perpetuated the myth that women are attracted to dirty Nikes and beer guts? Because pretty much every guy hailed as attractive in the media dresses well and is in good shape. It wouldn't really benefit us evil women to lie and keep men overweight and badly dressed. If TRP successfuly makes all men take better care of themselves, that actually benefits women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:35 PM |
| 2 | What are the useful bits of RPA big part of it which I agree with it debunking the myth that women are always right and women are superior to men in every possible way. It's amazing that society allows this to keep happening, but go figure. I saw an article the other day about why men should never criticize their wife's decisions. I assume I'm not always right, regardless of my gender, and my being a woman shouldn't automatically validate everything I say. That's so ridiculous. So, TRP partially gets rid of that "advice." Al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:32 PM |
| 0 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"We're really going to make this thread about homeless people? If I must. OK. It's not a "pernicious stereotype" that many homeless people are addicted to drugs. "Substance abuse is often the cause of homelessness" http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/addiction.pdf and while the majority of people who are homeless aren't currently on drugs, it's still a high enough percentage that I don't want to take the risk. It doesn't make me a bad person to give to charity as opposed to directly to a (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 06:19 PM |
| 29 | Like attracts like: Is TRP really only geared towards men chasing stereotypical, awful, shallow women?The vast majority of people, male and female, dont have that many sexual partners. When I pointed this out to a redpiller he said "Women lie, and that number includes ugly women too." Which pretty much proves my point- not that women lie (I mean, they do, but so do men) but rather that women who don't fall into their standard of "hot" don't count toward AWALT. If a woman has 3 sexual partners and gets married and stays faithful but she isn't an HB9, then forget it, she's ugly and her behavior is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 05:56 PM |
| 19 | Women’s relationships today follow a very predictable pattern:Do most men cheat as well? Because that site says women are cheating as much as men (which I've known for a while to be true). 70% of married men admit to cheating on their wives, and the same is true of 50-60% of women. Basically, everyone is horrible: http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/cheating-statistics-do-men-cheat-more-women I have no idea why TRP pretends cheating is a solely female thing, consdering there are how-to RP articles about how to cheat on your wife/girlfriend. There is no eviden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/15 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"he actually wasn't asking me for money, just weirdly taunting/dancing in front of me to try and prevent me from getting to my destination, then making fun of me when I tried to move a different way. But in terms of giving him money, I prefer not to give money that's going to be spent on drugs, I'd rather give to a soup kitchen or other organization that provides useful resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 10:43 PM |
| -2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Yeah, generally when I talk about any bad behavior (entitlement, for example) I'm referring to both women and men, but that doesn't stop people from accusing me of being a man-hating feminazi. I don't hate TRP at all, but when people twist my words around on this sub it makes me want to go full out TBP. At least be logical, folks. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 10:30 PM |
| 0 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"As far as I can tell, most people here who are anti-entitlement in some way (including myself) aren't saying that the only entitled people are teenage boys. Teenagers in general are flawed so I'm not even including them in all this. I was entitled as heck as a teenager and I'm female. But any adult who believes they inherently deserve someone else's body is entitled, male or female. Yes, I'm including the women you mention. If men aren't living up to your standards, improve yourself or lower you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"How are you still friends with this guy? LOL Also- women over 22? Where the heck does he hang out to meet anyone younger than that? Colleges? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Ahhh yes...this is a really good explanation! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Ha! I didn't notice that. Are you RP, BP or something in between? If RP is 10 and BP is 1, I'd say I'm like...4 And yeah, as a woman who was once an 18-year-old relentlessly pursued by a 28-year-old man who I REPEATEDLY told to stop contacting me (who used very typical TRP-esque "women don't know what they truly want, you want me and don't know it" lines) I don't see how anyone can advocate that type of thing. Other than that, TRP has some great advice, I just wish more people on TRP could ackno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"This is exactly what I'm talking about. The people we say are entitled are that way not because they're just lonely, but because they have these absurd standards and inflated sense of self-worth. Why would being "nice" (they're rarely that nice, anyway) make someone turned on? I mean, it's nice in addition to physical attraction but I doubt your male friend would date a fat girl just because she's nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"I agree with you. I am also an ugly duckling (not that I'm a 10/10 now, but I'm way better than I used to be) and I used to bemoan guys only liking "bitchy" girls, but the truth was, the hot guys (the ones I liked, who were out of my league) were into hot girls. I wasn't one of them. The girls' personality was fairly immaterial for them, so if they were bitchy it didn't matter, but they weren't always bitchy. Once I stopped blaming "shallow" men and other people, I managed to actually improve my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:27 AM |
| 15 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Seriously, I don't know why the tips TRP gives (which are all pretty good) can't exist without all the fits about how women are poop or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:22 AM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Well, I think all seduction takes some "manipulation." Makeup manipulates men into thinking you're pretty. Lifting manipulates women into thinking you're masculine. Getting interesting hobbies manipulates everyone into thinking you're interesting. I guess I draw the line where this type of manipulation actually causes emotional or physical harm to another person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?Interesting, I'm a Christian too, although it was something I came to later in life (if anyone wants to go all AF/BB on me...no. I can elaborate but that's not what happened, and no, my husband isn't that religious). I admire your decision to wait till marriage! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:20 AM |
| 0 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"I don't know how people can be so concerned about men getting rejected and absolutely unconcerned about women getting assaulted. I mean, I feel for dudes who can't get any because society's advice has been horrible, but it makes no sense to have sympathy for them and then NOT for women who get assaulted, beaten or even killed by men over sexual rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:19 AM |
| -1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"That's true, although I'm not mixing them up. I don't believe all men are inherently entitled at all- nobody is, some men just become entitled for whatever reason. I don't even think most men are like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Oh, I'm not sure if you saw my comment on this post specifically- I said the article and the "female art" suggestions were stupid. I'm not the radfem you might be expecting. I think the current feminist advice aimed at men is usually horrible. I thought you were saying earlier that you either didn't thnk women were ever in danger from men (that they were just imagining it) or that you didn't care if they were. If that's not your mindset, then my apologies for getting off-track. (Honestly I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:47 AM |
| 3 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"1.) I'm sure they would be, but you said "send them to TRP" so I'm just answering you, lol. 2.) You actually don't believe women are ever in danger from men? Don't be obtuse. I'm not taking the radfem stance of "every man is a rapist" but sexual assault and domestic assault are real things. A woman I know was murdered by her boyfriend. I doubt she staged her suicide and framed him just to be a dick. If a woman says "please stop calling and following me, it scares me and I feel extremely uncomfor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:36 AM |
| -1 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"I agree. I think there's a difference between: "Hey, how's it going? (insert funny line here)" versus (after a woman already tells you she has a boyfriend): "And George Washington was the first president, let's talk about other things that don't affect me." Basically, being outgoing versus refusing to respect personal boundaries. If a woman says she isn't interested, everyone is better off just going to the next woman who's actually single/interested. When my husband first approached me he was q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:34 AM |
| 5 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"I agree with most of your comment too. Unfortunately dating advice for men is a bit like the rare occasions TRP gives women "advice"--really, it just comes from women and is based on how to make life easiest for women (always put her first, she's always right, happy wife happy life) although in the long run, it creates men who have no backbone and are not attractive to women. I'm turned off by outward negging/jerkish behavior, but I like men to be able to make their own decisions and stand up fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:30 AM |
| 6 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Yeah, entitlement has taken on too many forms in the feminist community. I refer to it as people who inherently believe someone else's body/time is inherently THEIRS and that it's a major injustice if they don't get it. For example, I would be entitled if I saw a guy at the bar, wanted to date him, he said no and I acted as though it wasn't only disappointing, but an immoral betrayal of him not to date me, but to be interested in dating other people. I've been asked out by guys I wasn't interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:26 AM |
| 5 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"First off, I don't think it would be socially appropriate or even smart if a man was stalking me and I said, "You know, you should try going to TRP!" If they want to find TRP on their own, fine. I am not anti-TRP, I just disagree with some basic tenets. Second, yes, women absolutely do feel their safety is at risk with some behaviors that certain men exhibit. Do you honestly not think men ever stalk, harass or abuse women? (Not that women never do this either) And third, I am a woman. I'm not su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"What do you mean by bad? Some women would definitely say no, I mean that's just dating in general. It's not like you would say yes to every single woman who approached you either. But what I'm saying is, it wouldn't be a safety crisis. For some women, it would just be annoying. I always liked men to be straightforward, as long as they were willing to back off if I was clearly or explicitly not interested. You'd be surprised at how many guys don't even care that I'm married and just persist on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:20 AM |
| 4 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Well, what are we referring to when we say "aggressive"? I don't particularly care if guys feel like strongly coming onto a woman and being outgoing/confident is the way to do it- it might very well work- but men who violate women's space, stalk them or refuse to take no for an answer are a problem. I think that's what women mean when they refer to aggressive behavior- behaviour that actually violates personal space and safety. (Unsolicited groping, not taking no for an answer, stalking, etc) Ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"Literally no clue, most guys I know don't do this (and I've known a few women who do) but I have no idea what causes it. He basically felt there was this big IOU from women and that if a woman chose to date someone else instead of him, she was betraying him, even if she never promsied to date him in the first place. Also, a huge reason why nobody wanted to date him is that he was a colossal jerk- it went beyond jerk-game into actually being an antagonistic person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 01:08 AM |
| 4 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?I agree with most of this. Good point about college, I think it is also an issue of socioeconomic class. Racial minorities and lower income people are more likely to get divorced. Other than that you seem to cite compatibility as a major factor. No matter who you are I agree that's #1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Raising your boys to be husband material, or, why I hate it when I hear lonely young men get called "entitled"ETA: considering this sub has a no-downvote policy, I'm curious what I wrote that caused people to downvote, but not actually comment and debate me like normal humans? Well, that article is silly- nobody is going to be more successful with women by looking at women's art lol. Generally I disagree with TRP and feminists on this subject. In terms of calling young men entitled, I see why people do it. These aren't just men who are disappointed they are getting turned down. Nine times out of ten the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/15 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?Well it's obviously important to marry someone who you find physically attractive. But if you marry someone who is 20 vs 25, it's not that the second girl is going to be uglier for the vast majority of the marriage than the first girl would be- only that the first girl would have a few more years of "peak" appearance. If looks are the main reason you're getting married, it's ridiculous because if every woman is ugly by 30 then you'd be married to an ugly person for most of your life unless you d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 11:49 PM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?That's quite confident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?Sure, but what's the evidence that your average 25-year-old woman has had sex with a lot of men (the national average for sex partners really isn't that high) or that she's a "ball buster" just because she has an education? I'm not saying it's smartest to marry a woman who is a radical feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 11:48 PM |
| 7 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?I just find that interesting since TRP prides itself on "reals before feelz" and logic. Surely if risk avoidance and logic prevails, they'd take that into account. I can't think of any inherent benefits that come from marrying someone who isn't educated, other than some stereotype. As for marrying someone younger, if they really want to do that and then take the higher risk of divorce I just don't have as much sympathy when they complain about divorce. They'd say the same thing to a woman who ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?That's all fairly smart. A 20-year-old would greatly increase the risk of divorce, moreso if you were 30+ when you married her, but otherwise this sounds about right in terms of stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Study discovers why women don't age as well as menYeah, well the women who do this also tend to believe (inaccurately) that they already look way younger than their age and aren't taken seriously due to being "too beautiful" so they probably never think they need to try. We all need to, but at least I know that. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:27 PM |
| 5 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?I'm actually just interested in how they rationalize this, but I can post all the links now, it was just too annoying to post them in the OP and make it a wall of text: http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/21-factors-may-increase-risk-divorce http://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Divorce_Rates http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/05/19/15-ways-to-predict-divorce.html http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1209784,00.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/05/19/15-ways-to-predict-div… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Why is it that the few pro-marriage TRP'ers seem to advocate marrying women with high-risk "divorce rape" factors?Hotter for like 5 years though (out of the 50+ you'll be married). In the long run, how does that negate the risk of divorce, which (to TRP at least) is one of the worst things that can happen to a man? good point on the college education- I have seen guys saying that women who go to college are inherently masculine, flawed or "corrupted" but they could be fringe weirdos, I'm not sure. Oh- and yes, women tend to prefer men their age or slightly older but not younger. A marriage to a woman signif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:15 PM |
| 2 | Study discovers why women don't age as well as menYeah, I don't really get it. I've tried harder to be pretty since meeting my husband, but a lot of women tell me it's pointless and indicative that we're "shallow." It's called self-improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Study discovers why women don't age as well as menOh- measures of fertility and beauty tend to peak in early-mid 20s (this they're more attractive at that age), that's common knowledge. I do think that American women also have a tendency to de-sexualize themselves in their thirties which contributes to the "wall". Bad clothes, weight gain, short hair, bad attitude is the popuar stereotye. In other countries you don't see as much of a drastic decline because women take better care of themselves and don't give up on their sexuality/femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 07:56 PM |
| 2 | One thing I find a bit off-putting about the Sports Illustrated / #curvesinbikinis stuff is that all three guys are super fitI find this off-putting too, and while I don't consider myself RP I am bothered by this "I shouldn't change, society must change to find me attractive" mindset most often shared by both feminists and neckbeards alike. That's one area where RP knows what they're doing- they change to fit society. That said, I don't think it's such a big deal for a plus-size model to be in SI, considering there are still plenty of people who find her attractive, and of course it's nice to have some diversity. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Study discovers why women don't age as well as menMen defintiely consistently prefer women in their 20s, I'm surprised you don't think that's true. Women consistently prefer men around their own age, but since more emphasis is placed on women's looks/age than men's (women are expected to always look 20 to attract men their own age- men basically just have to look their own age to attract women their age) it makes sense that women would care way more about how old they look. As for my husband, we're still both in our 20s, so pretty much all of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Study discovers why women don't age as well as menInterestingly, I don't think men (at least visually speaking) look that much younger than their female counterparts, although I've known for a while that men's skin is thicker and therefore more resilient than women's, so this doesn't surprise me. Not that this even matters, but my theory is that women are at a disadvantage to begin with, so they wind up taking better care of their skin. My husband doesn't wash his face or use moisturizer, and only uses sunscreen occasionally, whereas I have an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/15 07:37 PM |
| 2 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?It's just their TOS basically. The same list that says homosexuals are forbidden from commenting. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:40 PM |
| 1 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?How do women have more opportunities to be selfish? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:39 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I dont' think people who date younger are insecure or immature- I'd only think that about someone who had unrealistic expectations that wound up leading him into a celibate life because no women 20+ years younger than him are interested. I'd wonder what his issue was. I only know one big age-gap relationship but I'd say the two people in it are perfectly normal individuals (side note: they're 40 and 55, so it might not be the kind of thing y'all think of) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:39 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?It all depends on goals of course. If you want marriage, and don't want "divorce rape" marry someone way younger (especially if this person isn't educated) drastically increases divorce risk. When both partners are over 25 divorce plummets. And if she makes her own money, there's less of a chance of financial issues with the divorce as well. Althoguh I've noticed that pro-marriage TRP dudes tend to advocate marrying the most high-risk type of person. I don't get it. Realisically if someone wante… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:36 PM |
| 1 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?lol. There's some red piller here who I almost always agree with, probably because he doesn't agree with all the right-wing rage stuff on TRP, I forget his name. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 06:33 PM |
| 2 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?I agree basically with what you're saying here, although I can guarantee you that numerous people on TRP have said things that you would probably consider absurd in regard to women's inferiority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/15 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, do you favour the "blank slate" narrative of gender?probably a lot of people trolling as them. The more ridiculous something is, the bigger it will seem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 11:08 PM |
| 1 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?So what biologically takes place precisely on a woman's 30th birthday, as opposed to her 29th or 31st, the vast majority of the time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 11:06 PM |
| 3 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong when I say TRP believes men generally have a better moral compass, level of intelligence and level of integrity than women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 11:04 PM |
| 2 | Bluepillers, do you favour the "blank slate" narrative of gender?yep, exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Bluepillers, do you favour the "blank slate" narrative of gender?That's true, but I do feel like a lot of these animal-related and other nonexistent gender labels (genderfuck? come on) are created by cis teenagers to seem unique, and they wind up delegitimizing the identities of actual trans and non binary people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:49 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?thats an enormous head! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:19 PM |
| 5 | Bluepillers, do you favour the "blank slate" narrative of gender?"What about demisexual pangender kittenkin gendermess princezzes?"- someone on Tumblr | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:19 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?it's a high five actually :) lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:18 PM |
| 2 | How to reconcile the existence of non-RPers?I'm not saying TRP doesn't help guys get into the type of sexual relationships that they'd prefer over incelship. When it comes down to the advice, minus all the "women are shit" and conspiracy theories, it has some solid points that men aren't getting anywhere else. That said, most guys don't need it. For several reasons: 1.) Many guys are open to, or totally fine with, just marrying someone around their own age and living happily ever after. The "50% of marriages end in divorce thing" is overb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:18 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?hahaha that's very egalitarian of you. o/* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:12 PM |
| 10 | How far does the concept of AWALT go?It's a generalization and as far as generalizations go it's not outrageous, depending on how far they take it. One could easily do the same thing about men (in fact, tons of women do) and nobody questions it or gets offended. If I'm being totally honest, AWALT applies to me and pretty much every woman I know, but to different degrees (we like masculine men and men who can make a living, that's not shocking). The area where I start to depart from it is that apparently in contrast to women, men ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:11 PM |
| 3 | Human Mating Strategies: Do You Stay or Stray?I totally believe that within a gender (male, for example) some men will want casual sex more and others will want relationships more. Before you say "The guys who want relationships are just desperate betas" that's overly simplistic. When you factor out divorce laws and paternity fraud, TRP's favorite topics, marriage is actually just as beneficial for a person as casual sex would be, depending on that person's idea of happiness. There are even guys on TRP who want marriage so it's not outrageo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:06 PM |
| 14 | Bluepillers, do you favour the "blank slate" narrative of gender?Is that the idea that gender is all socially constructed? Not at all. This is one area I agree with RP. Men and women are biologically and fundamentally different on average. I just disagree that one of these differences is "women are shit" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?lol. I'm surprised my support matters at all! :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 07:01 PM |
| 2 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?Women at 30 don't look or act that different from women at 29. I'm not saying they don't decline, but why this magical drop at 30, not 31 or 28 or 32 or something? It's arbitrary. Fertility drops around that age, and then moreso in mid-30s but physically speaking I can't tell the difference between a woman in her early 30s and late 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:05 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Yes and no, looks are the first thing that gets you in the door and then everything else matters more. It's convenient that TRP ignores women's opinions because of hamster-brain or whatever, that way they can make up whatever convenient truths they want about what women find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:04 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Really? Every single guy on TRP is going to be swimming in 18 year old supermodels in his elderly years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:02 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I know that, I never disputed that. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:02 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?So does a mid-20s woman have a realistic notion of what's possible in her life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:02 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Well I'm a woman so TRP definitely isn't for me, but I can see its merit from time to time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:01 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Yep, because TRP men generally aren't interested in long term commitment. But they are still interested in that "type" of man- if a woman posts about her SO using "dread game" he's unlikely to get any flack for it in the comments section. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Wait, you would actually rather kill yourself than date a woman in her 30s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 06:00 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I guess our definition of "older" is different. A guy in his thirties dating a woman in her 20s is pretty realistic, it's not the majority of relationships but it happens a lot. What I take issue with is the large number of young men who believe that as long as they're rich (which we all know is super easy and probable) then they'll have an endless stream of 18 year olds well into old age. This almost never happens. (Also, I'm a woman in my 20s and if I were single, I'd date up to 8 years older … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 05:59 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Well, I think a lot of RPers have a reasonable grasp on how women think and feel about men...but then there are sites like RoK that state women's value is youth/beauty (true) and that men's value is 100% "character" (??) It's a weird form of denial that leads to classic "I deserve X girl because I have (insert intangible unimportant trait here)" (I agree with you by the way) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 05:57 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Yeah, I know, I agree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 05:56 PM |
| 1 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?Kind of. Men don't care as much as women do. Also, for men it's often "I don't want her to be taller than me" whereas even short women will say "I need him to be over 6 feet." If women simply didn't want to date men shorter than THEM, it'd be extremely reasonable, but I know plenty of women who think a man is too short if he's 5 inches taller than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 05:56 PM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?You seem reasonable. If your goal is to marry to a younger woman at 28-35 and you're physically attractive and attractive otherwise, then it's a reasonable goal, provided you're not limiting yourself to supermodels under 20. As for the statistics, it's true that age gaps become less and less of big deal as you get older. The women in the study were 15-44, which rules out women in their 60s who are dating men in their 70s (probably more common). Considering it's unlikely that the youngest women o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 01:55 AM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I once saw someone post an article where an old actress bemoaned how hard it was to meet men in her old age, and the consensus was "Ha! That's what she gets for rejecting all the beta fans who wanted to sleep with her when she was younger!" TIL aging is revenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 12:16 AM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?To be fair every single person I've ever seen talk about their looks on Reddit claims to look like a teenager despite being 25, 30, 40 years old. I'm not sure what everyone is smoking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 12:14 AM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I'm a little confused here- isn't TRP all about having promiscuous sex and NOT getting into relationships? If that's the case, looks matter way more than anything else. As for money, the "shipping desperate women" thing is fairly overblown- it's not that they're desperate because there are no eligible men, it's because they have absurd standards or are failing to realize that they have faults that are keeping them single. It's rarely the location's fault, which is why I also do a major eye roll … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 12:12 AM |
| 6 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Men peak a little later than women, but they still are more attractive when young. I do think SMV differs for men/women, just not as much as TRP would like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/15 12:10 AM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I like your emphasis on statistics, but I have a few things I need to point out: 1.) The 7% figure was for a partner 6+ years older, not necessarily 10+ years older and definitely not necessarily Hugh Hefner type relationships. If you check out Wikipedia you'll see that if we're talking 10, 15, 20 years older it's even rarer than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships 2.) You say that more than 7% of women would be open to marryig a man 10+ years older "provided… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 11:55 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Where did you say that? Either you edited your post after I saw it, or something else, because all I don't recall that age range being mentioned. If we're just talking about 20-40 (and if the guy is open having sex with women older than 30 as he ages, or women who aren't in the top 10% of hotness) then yes I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:57 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?You implied (or perhaps even said directly) that the amount of sex would never decline. Unless you plan on dying in your sixties, that means you are asserting that the amount of sex a man has in his 30s shouldn't be too different than the amount of sex a man has in his 70s. Unless, of course, you believe a man has less sex in his 70s than in his 30s, which case- yes it does decline. ETA: Fair enough, I hadn't seen the age thing. You're right about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:52 PM |
| 5 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?Maybe it's an exaggeration, but I'd say most guys find it to be a turn-off, some are neutral and a small minority think it's a plus. On the bright side, it's usually something that's controllable, unlike men's height which is a dealbreaker for many women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:44 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Actually someone did say it was, that's how this whole sub-thread got started and eventually veered entirely off from the OP. It just wasn't you who said it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:40 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?You think the same amount of women find a fit 30-year-old attractive as the amount of women who find a bald 75-year old attractive? Men decline too, only the most in-denial of TRP newbs would deny this. It's just not as extreme as it is for women. That said, I've heard that really old guys have lots of sex in retirement homes (hence the rising STD issue) but it's with other old women, and not TRP-defined old (aka these "old women" are not 35, they're literally 90) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:34 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?They usually take it to mean intangible, non-physical qualities like game, confidence and intelligence, which nobody can reasonably measure, which allows them to continue feeling like they're in the same league as 18 year olds with perfect bodies. Realistically speaking, a high vaue man is similar to a high value woman, with less emphasis on youth and more emphasis on money and status. Looks still matter, probably most of all if we're talking sex and not relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:32 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?So guys on TRP, who have all the freedom in the world and are ruled by their desire to have sex, would be happiest with the exact amount of freedom they have now, but a dwindling supply of sex- maybe a few times a year- that eventually trails to "almost nothing" by the time they get old? I mean, if that's honestly what someone prefers I don't care, but for a sub so obsessed with sex I would think sexual frequency was a priority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:30 PM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I'm not saying TRP needs a female equivalent, only that RPW isn't it. Even RPW would admit that. I agree that already most dating advice is skewed in favor of women. I'm not arguing against that point, or claiming that we need more dating advice skewed to benefit women. I could spend an entire other thread criticizing that type of reverse-TRP ideology one finds on Jezebel, but I don't think it would spark any disagreement or discussion, even from most blue pillers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:29 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Exactly, so the odds of being extremely sexually successful as a single man (let alone a single middle-aged man) are slim even though they're technically possible. I would argue they are more slim than the odds of a 30-something woman marrying a guy she finds attractive. Also, I pretty much agree with you re: single men, but most of the single men I know fall in between. They go on a decent amount of dates, but have sex only a few times a year, maybe once a month if very lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:22 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I know that, but occasionally men from TRP will voice their opinions about the right course of action forwmen. I'm aware many of them don't even think about it, but the ones who do tend to voice what I expressed in my OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:18 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I agree with you on the second point, but married men have been shown to be happier, have more sex, and live longer than single men. You could argue that a man with a rotating harem of 20 year olds is happier than your average married dude, but again: odds. That is not remotely probable for most men, especially later in life. http://www.menshealth.com/health/why-married-men-are-happier http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/19/who-needs-marriage-men-apparently/ http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-det… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:17 PM |
| 2 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?There are also loads of women out there who like bald guys, but baldness isn't seen as a desirable trait because in general, most people don't prefer it. The same goes with short hair. Most men don't prefer it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:07 PM |
| 5 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?re: sexual marketplace. I agree that it exists much the way people think it exists, but the problem is that a lot of people have trouble coming to terms with the idea that something about them, whether external or internal, is in low demand in the sexual marketplace. This is evident by the men who believe that being overweight doesn't matter because they're smart, or the women with pixie cuts who think "TONS of guys like pixie cuts." Like yeah, some do, but if you're actively trying to attract m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:04 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?That's very true, even though I don't consider myself RP I think that current relationship advice attitudes are skewed toward the woman's favor. But TRP, at least I thought, wasn't concerned with morality or fairness- just in trying to benefit themselves. Therefore, a true female equivalent wouldn't be concerned with fairness- only how to benefit themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 10:01 PM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I am pretty sure most people want to make more money and try to. That's not unrealistic or even stupid at all. What's stupid is, at the age of 18, saying "I never need to worry about my future because I'm going to make loads of money and have my pick of supermodels when I'm old." That's a huge bet to take, and in the process this guy could be turning down perfectly viable options because he falsely believes this magical future is his destiny. Simply saying "I'm going to try to make more money" i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:54 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Yeah, I totally agree with you here. I know a man in his mid 40s who sleeps/dates almost exclusively with women mid 30s to mid 40s, and he has his pick of the draw. Interestingly he is now in a serious relationship with a woman close to his age and he's really happy. She has an amazing body though, she looks about 35 and if you just look at her figure she could be late 20s. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:43 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?You're an optimist, but since you're at least applying that sexual ambition to both genders I can't really argue. also, marrying a 25-year-old in your mid-30s would probably be possible even if you weren't a millionaire, but that's not the kind of outrageous goal I'm talking about. I'm talking abotu the endless spiral of hot young poonani well into your 80s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:42 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I agree on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:39 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?1.) Your goals sound fairly realistic, none of that is outrageous. Your willingness to date women over the age of 25, let alone divorcees, mean you have a really accurate view of the dating market. If an older man is willing to date divorced women his own age he basically has it made. 2.) that boss of yours is an outlier but nevertheless, probably a hilarious story to tell at parties. Also, since the plates were over 30 (and presumably not above 8/10) I imagine most guys on TRP would consider hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:37 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?MMSL is great, I wouldn't call myself RP but I agree with about 70% of stuff on tht site. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:31 PM |
| 7 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Again, this is what I'm saying- it's about odds. Men may decline later than women, sure. But if a man's goal is "have a rotating set of 9/10 20-year-olds when I'm 76" that's far less attainable than a woman's goal of "Settle down with an attractive guy close to my age when I'm 32." At this point, the man's goal is so absurd this his aging advantage over the woman is immaterial. If men's and women's goal was the SAME (find an attractive partner at age 30) then I'd argue the man has a way better c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:30 PM |
| 1 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Yeah, pretty much every "red flag" on TRP are things that make divorce less likely, minus sexual partner count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:27 PM |
| 6 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Women care about looks too, though. I wouldn't want to marry a guy I didn't find physically attractive- it's just that he'd need to have a good personality too. Looks is the foot in the door, after that the personality/reliability is 100%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:27 PM |
| 5 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?A man's SMV is, I'd say at least, firstly determined by his looks, with the other stuff being second. Most men decline too, just not at the same time/velocity as women. TRP way underestimates women's focus on appearance with pretty much no evidence other than anecdotes. and like I said, just statistically speaking a woman is more likely to be happily married in her 30s than a man is to be 70 and surrounded by supermodels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:24 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?That's true, but the subject of advice for women has come up, and this is generally what's recommended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:22 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?That's true- high school guys are told to focus on their studies and their appearance instead of chasing loads of girls, which is actually good advice for both genders in my opinion. but let's be honest- men's value CAN go up as they age but it rarely does, past a certain point. Most of the guys I find attractive are in their twenties and thirties. Women care about looks more than TRP thinks. And besides, if you want women your OWN age, you're pretty much in the clear, but if you're only attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:21 PM |
| 6 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?That's also true (although it's more of an issue for women than men) but a lot of dudes like to pretend it isn't. Old sperm is related directly to autism, dwarfism and schizophrenia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:19 PM |
| 6 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I would venture that the chances of a 30-something woman eventually marrying a guy she finds attractive are way more than 1 in 20. So should all my twenty-something friends schedule some balls-out trips to the Caribbean, bang loads of dudes, get their masters in Gender Studies and wait until 30s to get married? I mean, it's possible. Probably more likely than 1 in 20. Also, making six figures may be a 1 in 20 chance, but even making six figures isn't enough to live like Hugh Hefner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:19 PM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Can confirm, none of the women I know are interested in men 20 years their senior no matter how hot they are, I have literally never met a woman like this. I'm sure they exist but to bet on meeting tons and tons of them (and moreover having all of them interested in you) is a pipe dream. It's the equivalent of the "Women can have babies whenever they want, fuck biology" thing that feminists sometimes do. When you look at statistics, there's clearly a rise in birth defects after 35 and especially… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:16 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?You would also think that dating a woman who is your own physical equivalent is a fate worse than death. I guess a lot of them believe they have intangible other qualities that make up for whatever they lack in the looks department (hence they are inherently entitled to ONLY women above 8/10 OR ELSE), but women care about looks way more than they think, even if it's not as much as men do. And hot women have tons of hot men to choose from already. Honestly if most people were willing to date thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:12 PM |
| 5 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?That too. Even making a good living (that wouldn't be nearly good enough to attract boatloads of supermodels) is a serious rarity. I don't know why people think they're going to be the lucky 6% or less that gets there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:09 PM |
| 4 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Okay, well let me put it this way. A while ago I lurked there and saw a woman in her thirties ask them for advice since she had just started online dating. Generally the advice was: Just go for a guy who is nice enough to commit to you, you can't care about age because at this point very few men your age will want you. That's harsh, but accurate to reality (or maybe even a harsher version of reality) Meanwhile if this had happened to a man over on TRP, it would be "Just aim for the hottest, youn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 09:06 PM |
| 8 | What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances?Here are the flaws I can think of: TBP Believes the sexual marketplace is communist- everyone likes everyone else: "Don't grow out your hair, some men LOVE short hair." Yes, like 1% of them. Hates generalizations, which is fair I guess, but not particularly helpful or productive. Most women do like masculine men, that's just true. It doesn't have to be 100% for it to basically be true. TRP Ruled by revenge fantasies (like that aging is the universe's punishment for women who reject betas- despit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:50 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Well, I've seen guys on this sub say it's likely or a decent possibility. I agree with you, though. Even making 100K per year (not nearly enough to be endlessly attractive to women) is rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:50 PM |
| 3 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Women age at the same rate regardless of how much they sleep around- same with men. The only difference is that for women they may be more acutely aware of a lack of attention if they're still singe at that point. I see your point, and for the record I don't consider sleeping around to be fun, but there's a major difference between RPW and TRP. RPW teaches women how to live in way that would actually benefit men. TRP teaches men how to live in a way that does the opposite of benefitting women. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:49 PM |
| 5 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?Well I'm already married, but to my knowledge RPW doesn't teach women how to sleep around and settle down as late as possible because they readily acknowledge that's not a possibility or a likelihood. They seem to live their lives based on what is the most likely, safest route, and a route that also benefits men. They will never say, "Oh, don't worry, just try and be discreet about sleeping around so you can lie about it to the hot guy you snag when you're 35." No. They aren't a mirror image of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:42 PM |
| 2 | If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)?I personally agree but I don't think TRP cares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Help me understand the prevalence of emotional abuse in womenSome people do exaggerate the terms of emotional abuse when what they really mean is "he was a jerk." The reason men don't tend to do this isn't because men are less self-victimizing than women, but rather because the idea of being a victim of abuse is gendered as "feminine" so men are more likely to say their ex was "crazy" when in fact, she was just mildly difficult, or he drove her crazy. TL DR: everyone likes to claim victimhood and say things weren't their fault. That said, obviously emotio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/15 08:33 PM |
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