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Aesthetic is important. If a dude presents like a gym or frat bro, I personally get douchevibes - which is an instant turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:20 PM
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I'm asking if you believe the nuclear family structure existed 250 000 years ago tho. There are still a few immediate-return hunter gatherer societies left across the continent of Africa (like the Congo basin), but no - people in "rural Africa" do not live like paleolithic humans did. Jesus dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:34 AM
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What was homo sapien sapien women's essential role 250 000 years ago? Do you think life was like the Flintstones? Do you think mommy cavewoman dusted the cave and tended to multiple cavebabies all day, while daddy caveman went to work in the cavemobile? Btw. Do you mean this quote: "But such a state of reciprocal independence has no existence in a primitive society based on property in common, whether such a society takes the form of a patriarchal family, an ancient Indian community, or a Peruvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:15 AM
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How could I disprove a unfalsifiable theory (without designing the aforementioned billion dollar study?) I'm just saying is given a large enough sample size, all data will cluster towards average people fucking other average people. Just think about it for a sec.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:05 AM
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That's weird I don't remember Marx ever writing about undermining the family structure. So many questions. Are you saying women's essential nature and roles are that of 1800s homemakers? Pre or post industrialization? European only? Or are you including the indigenous peoples of North America?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:27 AM
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Yeah that's good, but would be insanely expensive. Besides. We already know that most people are average. And average people meet, date, fuck, marry, cheat literally every day. Because that's how math works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:01 AM
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I mean - how would you design a study that measures AF/BB. That's the main problem with unfalsifiable narratives. For example, how would you design a study that proves God doesn't exist. Idk. Off the top of my head, I guess I would run a large-scale, longitudinal study of women 18-45 - measure partner preferences and actual partner characteristics at multiple time points. Then I suppose i'd crunch the data re: short‑term partners v long‑term partners. If they dont differ systematically on the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:35 PM
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I'm cool with evo-psych in general. I'm specifically referencing pseudoscientific manosphere talking points - like AFBB - that take nuggets of truth to build an unfalsifiable, tautological narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:47 PM
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If that were the case, then why did women fight for the right to their own careers? And what does that even have to do with the increase in wealth disparity favouring the top 1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:36 PM
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Oh okay, well. Still evo psych shifted to the mate switching hypothesis because of all the replication failures and methodological critiques involved with the dual mating hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:16 PM
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Yeah I agree, Freud had a lot of duds, and a few bangers (defense mechanisms really stood the test of time, for example.) Nonetheless, the Madonna/Whore complex isn't about women's dual strategy. That's just pseudo scientific pop evo psych/manosphere garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:12 PM
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What? Freud coined the theory to describe a common psychological complex in men that leads men to toxic/unfulfilling relationship outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:59 PM
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Yes! I've clocked that too. The rp conceptualization of women is strikingly similar to pre-enlightenment theories, with a dash of pseudo scientific evo psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:55 PM
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Especially single women. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:39 PM
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Well shit. Here I am thinking the cost of living crisis was caused by pathologically greedy men, but it turns out it was women's fault all along. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:38 PM
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Yeah it can sometimes take decades for scientific consensus to reach public consciousness. Take like epigenetics or neuroplasticity, for instance - the nature/nature debate was resolved by interactionism a long time ago. Though the ovulatory shift hypothesis was never very robust. Any research in support usually boasted small sample and effect sizes. Not much predictive value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:03 AM
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What do you make of all the modern replication efforts that have failed to support the "ovulatory shift hypothesis?" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33385373/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:10 PM
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You do have autonomy. If you don't want kids, you have the choice to not have sex with someone who wants kids or who's pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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Makes sense. Just like this post is "vapid and inane with no real substance."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:52 PM
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You seem tuned in - I'm sure you'll find someone. But yeah, overall it's pretty dismal out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:55 PM
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I'd say the problem is that while women are becoming more independent and career focused, many men are becoming regressive and 'traditional,' and voting for politicians/policies meant to strip women of their independence. Since there are fewer progressive men to choose from, many women are simply choosing to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:01 PM
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I got you. https://www.reddit.com/r/lnkyverse/s/1PsggZ8Gor https://nuancepill.substack.com/p/new-sex-data-has-arrived
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 08:41 PM
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So "rugged and masculine." Be still my leftist heart. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:13 PM
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Wow so many questions: What do you mean by liberal men are "softer?" What does that look like opposed to "rugged" conservative men? Do you think only conservative men "have a strong work ethic?" "Conservative traits tend to be associated with higher testosterone" Okay like which traits exactly? Does this also assume conservative women have higher testosterone levels than liberal women ? On which basis do you relating testosterone levels to "conventional masculinity?" Finally, are you including l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:10 PM
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The male demonstrates his strength by baring his formidable, dagger-like canines and fighting off rival males. In return, the female blushes and seductively presents her bright red swollen rump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:05 AM
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To be fair, I was pointing out the irony of that dude whining about women insulting men collectively, and blaming them for their failures in dating, while simultaneously insulting women collectively, and blaming them for their failures in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:02 PM
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when we compare modern women to those 50-60 years ago, they score considerably worse in a lot of metrics that are relevant to men. seeing those same women live in lala land, completely lacking self-awareness Wait. Are you insulting women collectively and blaming them for your personal failures in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:04 AM
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Oh I see. You're just making observations about how most women are attracted to rich men, but are forced to date poor unattractive men who they resent because they can't afford an expensive vacation. No misogyny to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:01 PM
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Seems you're the one with the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:44 AM
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And I didn't even have to ask you anything to get an unexpected revelation about the size of your ego. Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:24 AM
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Wow these women creatures you speak of sound malicious at worst, and vapid & boring at best. Unless, of course, they're talking about sex or bringing other women around that you could possibly have sex with. Otherwise, it's like you can barely tolerate being in their presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:29 AM
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Great well my experience is different from yours. Both are anecdotal and qualitative. Which is why I'm referencing quantitative data instead. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:23 AM
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Yeah that happens too. Lots of variables, but the 'matching hypothesis' tends to hold true across studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:15 AM
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You've never seen an average looking couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:20 PM
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You've talked to thousands of men and discovered that women only fuck muscular, attractive, famous, fuckboys? Like, do you mean, over your lifetime? In what context - are you taking surveys and crunching the data? Even though you position yourself as the voice of authority on women's desires, when I look at actual empirical research, it shows that both women and men tend to partner up with their looksmatch. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886924001909
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:42 PM
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I'm confused. What's the "method to get laid" that he used on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:31 PM
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Just so I'm following: you're somehow uniquely qualified to analyze the dating market from a "very detailed" lens. And you've concluded that women only choose to "mate" with four categories of men. Which are: men with no skills or attractive qualities bodybuilders players/fuckboys famous dudes Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim other than your feelings, a YouTube video, or something you heard a random bartender say on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:46 PM
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You said he did everything in his power to get laid, and it still didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:37 PM
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No one's forcing you to be a decent person. I mean, integrity is cool and all, but might as well pull a cryptoscam or start a dog fighting ring, right? Just be a huge asshole all the time. Why waste effort on contributing to society in a positive way if you can't have sex on demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:17 AM
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Doubt, but that's besides the point. OPs more like: even Hitler had a gf - so why should I be a decent human?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:05 AM
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It'd also be nice to have a society where scam artists don't exist. So many hardworking honest people taken advantage of by grifters. But why only focus on extremes? The majority of people are not grifters. I also hate living in a society where the wealthy use off-shore tax havens. But I don't treat everyone I meet like a potential tax fraud because I recognize that the average person is not. Just like - average, decent people date and marry other average, decent people literally every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:06 PM
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Correct ,some humans are vile assholes. Agreed. The absurd part is to see another rapey politician in the headlines, then conclude: 'therefore, I should also be a vile asshole too.' You probably don't hold many consistent and coherent values in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:56 PM
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That's like asking, what's the point in being a decent human being when even Kristi Noem gets d? Apparently men don't care if you shoot dogs and imprison babies, so that must mean all men desire chuddy monstrous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:30 PM
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Or integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:23 PM
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Lol got it. No worries, it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:31 PM
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Yeah lol - but seriously, who said anything about running behind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:13 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:01 PM
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So, OP incorrectly stated that therapeutic practices are rooted in 'patriarchy theory.' This is dumb as most practitioners use CBT - which has nothing to do with the patriarchy. Your own experience with therapy directly contradicts OP's weirdo claim. You know as well as I do that IFS, exposure therapy, EMDR, as well as every other counselling method is not based in gender theories. And yeah, OCD is no joke. I genuinely hope you've found some relief. No one's asking you to "bend over for feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:59 PM
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I don't know what you mean by talk therapy, CBT? But wow - that's a wide range of anxiety and childhood trauma type therapies. Though I also wonder if your IFS and EMDR therapist blamed patriarchy for your OCD, and then charged you ninety bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:46 PM
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What type of therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:40 PM
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Haven't been to therapy, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:31 PM
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Idk. You must live in a very specific region. I've never known adult women to passively wait for a man they like to chase them. It's not the 1800s. If I'm vibing with someone, I let them know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:20 PM
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I'm still confused. Are you saying that your non-abrasive redpill beliefs are: - different women are attracted to different types of men with various combinations of attributes? - women are humans who also have central nervous system's that, given individual experiences, can detect warning signals - but that doesn't make them mind readers? I agree with you, but how are these redpill beliefs, specifically? Aren't these just basic tenants of bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:32 PM
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I'm having a difficult time pinpointing the red pill part. People being attracted to attractive people with high emotional intelligence is just basic psychology. As is the concept of traumatic childhoods and attachment disorders that require therapy. Some people are very impressed by income, but the pressure of the data suggests assortative mating as most common. I guess it's red pill if you're suggesting that all women are only attracted to the same high status man (by whatever measure), but wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:24 AM
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What articles?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:13 AM
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Okay, but that's similar to saying feminism is not the same ideology as liberalism. Which is true. While there's much overlap, there are obviously opposing branches of feminism: radical, conservative, communist, socialist, Marxist, etc. However, both feminism & liberalism are ideologically leftist; and red pill & conservatism are ideologically right-wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:17 PM
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Good to hear you're authentic and don't hide your opinions. But like, what's an example of a moderate red pill belief that you present in a nonjudgmental way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:11 PM
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Right - that's the point being made: it's disadvantageous for women to cold approach. Many men will see it as an easy opportunity to fuck, regardless of whether they actually find the woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:49 PM
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So basically, all women benefit from dating because they can extract 'free food and board' (as OP suggested in the comment I responded to). Like, all women are parasitic golddiggers just waiting for a host. Gotcha. But if that's the case, then why cold approach women at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:34 PM
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I mean, it's more logical than assuming every woman who agrees to date you - only wants your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:31 PM
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Unlikely, as women have jobs and homes now. Also unlikely that a woman who says 'yes' to a rando dude approaching her is psychic. Otherwise, assuming it's a cold approach, how would she know how much money or resources rando dude has?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:44 PM
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Oh, sorry it that offended you. Does this work better: men who leverage their stronger currencies to access power dynamics with financially dependent vulnerable women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:46 PM
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I disagree with your sentiment, but appreciate your consistency. At least you're integral about it. Because as I was reading the comments, I was wondering about the overlap btw passport bros & dudes who hate immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:26 PM
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First, I think you're being a little naive about the way passport bros are received in other countries. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30671055/deadly-passport-bros-traps-murdered-cash-drug-kill-men/ Second, "passport bros are unfairly demonized," so they should travel to countries like South Korea, where feminism is unfairly demonized, so they're easier to exploit- Is a wild take. Like South Korean women - the ones who started 4B and tanked the birth rates? You think these women are going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:09 PM
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Ok calm down. By definition 50/50 is the opposite of hypergamy. It's not hypergamous to not want to date neets or hobo-sexuals. Just pay your own bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:31 AM
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That study doesn't include Texas. Which was the exact state I was referencing in the comment you're replying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:09 AM
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Someone people desire a partner who earns a similar amount, so as to split expenses 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:39 AM
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I think what matters is the maternal mortality rate has increased significantly in anti-choice states since Roe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:36 AM
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. I translate chode talk. They're 'nice guys.' So when women won't touch their dicks,, it's obviously because women only desire ten-percent, abusive, bad-boy Chad. When confronted with the reality of average humans dating & marrying other average humans. It's because that evil, post-wall whore suckered some beta chump into providing a comfortable lifestyle for her lazy ass. Et voila, ego is restored.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:10 PM
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Not if you're both contributing 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:44 PM
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Silly me. Of course reality would interfere with OP's revenge fantasy in which he shames his nonexistent gf's imaginary sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:45 PM
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Yeah they've been around for a little while now. You think this dude would have confirmed that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:44 AM
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There's already a male version, it's just not as popular. Some guy tried to make a male version of the tea app, but it was quickly shut down for revenge porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:42 AM
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Posting thirst traps for money has little to do with the attractiveness of the recipient. Many OF men are gay for pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:37 AM
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I'm far more likely to be killed by an incel than an Islamic terrorist. Either way, it's about ideological extremism. That's why there's government watch lists. Did you see that viral incel/FBI video, btw? Highly entertaining Also it's kind of delusional to believe the femicide epidemic is primarily caused by attractive, charismatic rich dudes. Bigotted maga chuds are probably a significant portion of perpetrators tho. But that's not chad. https://www.canada.ca/en/women-gender-equality/funding/e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:30 AM
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https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/incel-and-misogynist-violent-extremism-read-ahead-materials-august-2.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:59 AM
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I mean, by that reasoning, you could just as easily post thirst traps for gay dudes and make some coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:07 AM
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Then why does the Department of Homeland Security and various other national security organizations list incel violent extremism as a specific motivator for domestic terrorism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:01 PM
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We've had four major incel attacks in Canada since 2018. For reference, there were zero Islamic terrorist attacks in that time frame. Most recent: https://thewalrus.ca/the-deadly-montreal-shooting-shows-incel-violence-is-a-public-emergency/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:58 PM
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If you can answer my question critically, then you would also answer your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:27 AM
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What do men get from incest porn that they're not getting from the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:22 AM
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I'm so glad to hear you found a supportive & kind fella. There's some good ones out there. I'm lucky to have been raised by a single father who taught me to have high self-esteem and standards. And I'm with you. I've learned long ago to fully accept their hatred. Now their impotent rage only fuels me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:24 AM
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Because you've already showed your hand when you framed your question in a way that implies obviously women love abusive men at the expense of nice guys because some women read spicy books. Btw have you read any studies on why incest porn is most popular with men? Shall I make sweeping assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:04 AM
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That's a great example of what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:56 AM
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Right? Just look at the way he describes single mothers with contempt. Like, how dare these lowly whores, who've committed the ultimate "fuck up," be able to manipulate "some corny ass dude" into dating them - while a superior and wiser being, such as myself, remains single. The world is ever so cruel to me .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:44 AM
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It's more like I wonder if any of the men - who spam social media with how uniquely and incomparably lonelier than everyone else on the planet they are - have ever volunteered with the elderly, or even as big brothers to boys in need. It seems the types raging over single mothers (who they look down upon) finding love are capable of understanding that other people also suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:36 AM
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What an emotionally stunted, self absorbed response. Of course he's not willing to talk about the grief and devestation of losing your partner, because Stacey won't touch his dick. And that's only tragedy that matters. Fucking ghouls. I'm so sorry for your loss 😞 That's harrowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:02 AM
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Agreed. They'd rather stew in their self-fulfilling prophecy than even consider that otherssu be suffering more. Because that would mean they're not the center of the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:56 PM
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Yeah it's a very self-centered perspective - to want the world to cater to your own pain, while dismissing the pain of others as not concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:52 PM
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Yeah in the West, you must 'produce' more value than you consume, otherwise, you're considered a burden. There's also a cultural blindspot, a fear of death. We don't like to talk about it; it makes people uncomfortable - best to tuck any reminders out of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:50 PM
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I always wonder what these dudes think about about elderly women? Widows? This demographic is disproportionately affected by loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:58 PM
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He did say exactly that, yes. But I think pointing out how dumb and arrogant he sounds is basically "kicking a harmless dog."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:59 AM
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Love Dr. Ana's channel. Dr. Kirk's as well. Great post!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:19 AM
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How very perceptive of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:55 AM
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I engaged with what he said. Very entertaining post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:25 AM
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I thought it was pretty self-explanatory. It's only one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:17 AM
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I like how he characterizes men of different classes and motivations, but all women as the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:04 AM
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Yeah humanistic philosophy is rad. I also enjoy Humanistic psychology (now referred to as positive psychology). But these are still two different frameworks. Humanism focuses on potential, agency, reason, etc. it's more of moral philosophy. Feminism focusses the intersects of gender and power from a female perspective. It's a political philosophy and a critique of power structures Also in terms of sex and dating most people got married and had large families before feminism. Great. Child brides,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:00 AM
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Seriously. My guy friends and I have always emotionally supported eachother through hardships. No different than my gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:01 PM
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Objectification is the first step toward dehumanization. It's correlated with violence. People generally want to attractive. Even then, there's a difference between a Clavicular, with his attention seeking behaviours, and a woman being sexually harassed on the streets when it's hot outside and she's wearing shorts and a tank top.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:22 PM
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Okay well my personal definition aligns with the actual definition. And yes, it's very helpful for people to develop social skills, especially when young. That's why ABA therapy is so popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:58 PM
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Man I can't even begin to imagine how these dudes would interpret the werewolf craze of the 17th century. "Women invented the concept of werewolves because the secretly want to be eaten alive."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:39 PM
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That's one regional study vs. many recent global studies. I'll withhold judgement until there's a greater body of evidence. But no doubt, your balls are full of micro plastics, which is one theory. My pet theory is - populations aren't meant to reproduce exponentially forever (like an invasive species or cancer). All animals tend to stabilize around a set point. I simply think this is a biological function of population control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:36 PM
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So the components of social skills are empirically defined and measured. It's not a personal opinion thing. Like how ABA therapy often incorporates social skills training for autism. Idk why you're salty about that image, guy. It's kind of funny that it personally offended you somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:35 PM
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What was I preaching about sociality? OP asked what social skills were, so I''m just helping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:27 PM
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You don't "follow" social skills, you develop them. It's like a muscle that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:22 PM
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Seriously. I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:20 PM
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Horror movie fans enjoying being scared isn't the same as wanting to be murdered by a psycho. Dark romance fans enjoy erotica but don't wish to be abused by an ancient minotaur or whatever (idk I don't read the genre). Just as the rising trends of men enjoying incest porn doesn't mean they want to fuck their moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:18 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:03 PM
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Horror fans don't want to be murdered. Metalheads don't worship satan. Mafia movie fans don't want to join gangs. Sci-fi readers don't hope to live in a dystopia. GTA fans don't want to steal cars and murder sex workers. etc, etc, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:01 PM
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I've never claimed to be sensitive or emotionally available (?), so no hypocrisy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:52 AM
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No, lil fella - I'm questioning you. How are women shaming you for your preferences? And why are you shaming women for their preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:08 AM
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Yeah that sounds traumatizing. Do you prefer the 'sensitive?' Or maybe easily offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:50 AM
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It's a verifiable data site, yes. And sorry the phrase "fragile fertility" is so offensive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:43 AM
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Statista? It's a statistics platform. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:36 AM
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K have a good life!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:29 AM
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Like how specifically? Are hordes of women surrounding you on the streets, pointing their fingers? I see your posts complaining nonstop about women only wanting tall, top 20% attractive men. Are you also shaming women for their preferences then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:27 AM
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Well, if you don't want to look up research on the psychology of the manosphere, then your opinion is moot. And aggrieved entitlement - that document isn't a "definition," it's a psychometric inventory. I was trying to gently explain by way of example, how researchers measure psychological variables. Because you don't have this base understanding of research methods or statistical analyses, it makes communication difficult. I don't know what you're even arguing about. You asked for info on how a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:55 AM
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How are woman shaming your preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:37 AM
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Amazing. Yes, total trekkie. People often mistakenly call me Amy. Are you also a ginger??!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:33 AM
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<image> I know!! I was reading your comments like:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:20 AM
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Who's shaming you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:11 AM
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1993? 2017 - Man who raped 12-year-old awarded joint custody of her child: https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-raped-12-old-awarded-114904992.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADDkknLv0srxvRuCpeEYXMKWnjGDnmcU73GdavRoTXDA0HlbLR6Qu4YQlMAHP2iJkucU1fRVzMj1Ej87PNk2A3C-Yp89I6WpYRIbYqLmq8A0OubKSOxgRnmNU1mhSK0j2ObEweiLxBqjCeG-ufqPrFvShAqlRP8mkQU5AOAzt3Q7 2022 - Louisiana woman says her rapist was given custody of her child in ongoing court dispute https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:10 AM
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I'm a cis woman/anarch-feminist and yes, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:06 AM
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Yeah, that's definitely in contrast to decades of global studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:51 AM
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Sent to the honey badgers as a show suggestion Oh no not the Honey Badgers. The very pillars of rigorous science. What I want to know is: -How did they define entitlement objectively -How did they prove it as a motivation I got you. It's called psychometrics. Standardized ways in which to measure psychological variables - that demonstrate validity and reliability over time. Aggrieved Entitlement: Scale Development and Validation Why I should listen to anything this article says Okay. Whatever- l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:22 AM
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You should probably also ensure you have enough quality sperm. It's weird no one brings up the global decrease in sperm counts and quality over the past 50 years when discussing fertility rates. You know you could also just find a surrogate right now instead of waiting. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:28 AM
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Okay, but why don't the people rise up and vote out conscription all together?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:16 AM
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I don't know. I'm not from Switzerland. Why haven't the people risen up? Also the men aren't sent to actual war, right? The Swiss have armed neutrality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:14 AM
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Are there any upcoming upcoming referendums to abolish the draft? It seems so barbaric. My country did away with conscription back in 1945.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:09 AM
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Because there was no vote to abolish the draft. If there were, feminists would vote for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:05 AM
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Okay so why did everyone else also vote against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:03 AM
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Yes feminists don't want anyone to be drafted because they're anti-draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:54 AM
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Are you referring to the Citizen Service Initiative in 2025 that proposed a constitutional amendment to replace mandatory military service for men with a universal civic duty for all citizen instead? The one rejected by both male and female voters by over 84%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:53 AM
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Citation needed, or explanation needed that it's a bad thing. Sure! I'll provide a citation. There's literally decades of research on misogyny, aggrieved entitlement; aggrieved manhood etc. You could always headover to Google Scholar and look up "psychology and affect of the manosphere." Here's one of the first hits: Alphas, Betas, and Incels: Theorizing the Masculinities of the Manosphere "The analysis reveals that, while there are some continuities with older variants of antifeminism, many of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:46 AM
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Oh okay. Have you noticed any trends in men's porn use that you care to generalize? And what about you? Are you a beta or a chad? Please be sure to discern between rapey criminal chad & rich successful chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:33 PM
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And I'm just noting men's porn trends. Well, the legal ones. Anyway. It's hard to take you seriously when you're offended that I don't recognize the diversity of the manosphere, while arguing that all women are the same - AFBB..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:20 PM
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Wait. Are you saying all women desire criminal rapists? That's weird. I was informed by the manosphere that women only want successful rich, attractive chads. Generally, criminal rapist men are low on the social ladder. Besides, I don't think you want me to start generalizing about men's porn use. Otherwise I'll have to assume all men desire step moms and sisters. That would be stupid, right? You might question my cognitive abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:02 PM
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I'm convinced many of them cognitively stagnate at the age they first got sucked into the manosphere. Bigots tend to have lower IQs & critical thinking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 PM
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Correct. I'm in a comment thread discussing why "nice guys" complain about women's preferences, also live in a primal state of terror of AFBB. You replied saying because they wish women were attracted to them. I agreed and expanded by saying they also want to disseminate manospherian propaganda. Which is not so nice. If you extrapolate what I'm saying further, you'll see I'm suggesting that women aren't attracted to misogynists. It's self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:24 PM
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The Public Offender.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 08:18 PM
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It's the title of OPs post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:17 PM
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Yeah I was just expanding on the part where you mentioned 'nice guys' just wish women were attracted to them. Sure, that sounds wholesome. But when you factor in that the 'nice guys finish last' sentiment is the common basis for all manospherian ideologies - in that it blames systemic VAWG on women, then you're not a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:14 PM
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Idk. I think the complaint is: "I'm such a nice guy, but women won't date me because they choose bad men." Thus creating both a grievance and a dismissal of systemic VAWG as a consequence of women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:03 PM
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Counterpoint: most people are average. Average people date and marry every day. That's how averages work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:29 PM
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Humanism is about creating a society that nurtures human potential. Feminism is about women's liberation from a patriarchal colonial system (a system not conducive with nurturing human potential.) And obviously since you're so informed, I'm sure you're aware that "modern feminists" do oppose the draft: CODEPINK (2021) WILPF (2021) NOW (2022) WAND (2021)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:28 PM
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Feminists don't say men have problems expressing "feelings." I mean, the whole manosphere movement is explicitly men expressing feelings: entitlement, resentment, anger, horniness. Actual esearch shows that some men have a harder time being vulnerable because they think it's emasculating. And you're going to have to do better than a 30 year old study that doesn't even discuss emotional (affect). It's about dating tactics. You also skipped the part where it states that both men and women "were ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:13 PM
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Jesus. The article is titled "Feminists against the draft and draft registration," and every single quote in it explicitly opposes the draft for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:13 PM
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https://hasbrouck.org/draft/women/feminism.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:19 PM
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Read a book. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:14 PM
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Yeah it's weird to blame feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:11 PM
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Yeah, I'm more concerned with the six mass extinction event, ongoing war and genocide, etc than I am the Vienna circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:10 PM
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I don't know that. I do know these countries score higher on the gender equality index than others, but they're not matriarchies ruled by feminists. Tell me, which countries automatically grant refugee status to Ukrainian draft evaders?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:09 PM
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True. There are much more pressing issues than say, fighting over whether June is Pride month or Men's mental health month. Both are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:03 PM
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Just one? You can't think of any other right-wing nutjobs causing endless war and genocide? Besides. Why haven't the MRAs in the US done anything to allow for more Ukrainian draft evasion/asylum seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:00 PM
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Lolol yeah it's Randy back from a long day of stripping copper wires from the abandoned mines.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:44 AM
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Did Norwegian and Ukrainian feminists write the asylum laws? It's annoying when you fellas get more outraged about feminists not dismantling the draft than the men who start the wars in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:40 AM
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Feminists are anti-draft and pro-choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:11 AM
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He's completely unbiased. But also anyone that disagrees with him about "culture war items" has delusional girl brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:03 AM
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Those are two different ethical framework related to moral development. Not hard science with predictive value. I teach them both in my dev psych classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:54 AM
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Do you have any evidence that the sexual revolution made women sign up to a Chad-roster - other than your own personal worldview? Like yeah? Rich good looking people generally have a lot of options. But you're the delusional one to thinking all women are banging rich good-looking chad in their 20s, then crying he didn't marry her in her 30s. That's just the basic manospherian revenge fantasy. And you're suffering from confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:24 PM
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So your overarching theory of the sexual revolution and casual sex made women delusional is evidenced by your personal experience in Newport Beach?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:09 PM
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You have many experiences of 6-pack Chads with boats?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:52 PM
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Great. Nonetheless, whether or not most dominant men seeking traditional relationships consider themselves traditional or not, most women aren't into it. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:50 PM
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I assume you mean strawman. And correct, I do assume people who practice traditional gender roles are traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:36 PM
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women are prone to different delusions that become magnified in areas that men are highly competent. Perhaps you could provide a concrete example with citation of these areas in which women are more prone to delusion. Given your superior masculine/highly competent cognitive abilities, of course. And yes, I have read Adorno.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:34 PM
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Okay. Still don't need another adult to control any spaces or fields or whatever. But if other people are into traditional gender roles, not my rodeo. We don't run in the same circles anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:28 PM
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It feels like he's caught in an algorithm of his own design.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:24 PM
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I mean yeah, people don't experience reality objectively. We all operate from mental schemas/cognitive shortcuts and deeply ingrained blueprints for understanding the world. Everyone is prone to logical fallacy, men and women equally. The way we interpret situations, others, ourselves is through personal lenses built from past experiences, culture, and childhood environments, etc. Where you lost me is well - your premise, operalization of terminology, and evidence. So, the premise that "most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:23 PM
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It's probably fair to say that most RW/tradwife types would love to let men be in control, but definitely not most women. Personally, I can't begin to fathom why anyone would want another adult control their lives. Have you met most adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:54 PM
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*Brendas
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:14 PM
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Yeah I live in northern Ontario. Everyone has boats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:14 PM
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"Chad with a boat" is sending me 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:13 PM
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Yeah there are many different types of therapies. For trauma, you'd want to find a clinical counsellor that specializes in trauma-focussed therapy. Even bodymind types like EMDR are effective. None are a passive process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:00 PM
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Therapy isn't passive. It's about gaining self-insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:54 PM
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The "B" in CBT stands for "behavioural."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:50 PM
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Yup. Then in the next breath they'll loudly campaign against Pride month because 'what about men's mental health month?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:56 PM
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As if the institutions weren't created by men. And all this after the uproar about men's mental health month. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:44 PM
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What do you mean right type of therapy? Like... CBT, DBT, trauma-focussed, exposures therapy? This is usually dependant on what symptoms you're presenting. Personally, I'm a proponent of Jungian integration, but that's more esoteric and not really recognized in modern psychotherapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:42 PM
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I've only ever heard laymen say that therapy is only for women. I can assure you that's not a common refrain in the field. Or in quantitative research. You had six sessions of what type of therapy? With a psychologist or psychiatrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:31 PM
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Yeah I've also been wondering who told men that "talk therapy" is only effective for women. It's a common refrain. But like, wtf is talk therapy? It seems that many men envision therapy as a woman lying on a couch, deciphering dreams with a 19th century psychoanalyst (which was also invented by men). It's so bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:26 PM
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What's talk therapy? The most recommended, rigorously studied, and scientifically validated treatment for mood and anxiety disorders (across gender) is CBT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:14 PM
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What do you mean therapy isn't as effective for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:06 PM
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Yes. Those are RW and manosphere tropes, respectively. In reality, conservative men look like: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:06 PM
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You don't think there's any good looking leftist dudes? Weird. But okay. Then why do men lie about being RW on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:46 PM
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Let me help you. Me: Abortion rights and creepy men online aren't comparable. You: I didn't remotely make any sort of equivalence between those two things. Also you (making equivalence between those two things): You 100% are militant about women having full and free access to abortions, and thus sex, but you don't think it's a big deal if a man goes without sex. That's hypocrisy - it's either a big deal to both, or a big deal to neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:40 PM
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I can observe when someone is objectively attractive without making it apparent. I think sunsets are attractive, but I don't want to fuck them. Women don't share a brain, we have individual 'types' we are attracted to. Often it has more to do with aesthetic than facial thirds, or whatever.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 05:27 PM
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I'm sure dating does feel lopsided for men seeking 1950s-style gender roles. They should stick to the trad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:32 PM
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CBT is talk therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:16 PM
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In Texas, the maternal mortality rate rose 56% in one year. I wonder how much the sexless men mortality rate increased that same year? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:06 AM
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You lost me. Do you think fields like psychology, psychiatry, neurology etc. are based on the female central nervous system? Or clinical counselling was invented by women for women? Like a specific therapy - Psychodynamic? CBT? DBT?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:25 AM
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You got me there. I thought you rolled into this post to defend men being creeps online, because they're sad no one wants to have sex with them. So, they have to shame attractive women online for all the sex they imagine these women are having, in their porn-y little brains. And, according to you, that's the same as women who are "outrageously militant about access to abortion," - which I assume you mean abortion rights activists, politicians, legal scholars, human rights orgs etc. But you got l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:19 AM
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I mean, you forgot about married women or women in LTRs or rape victims/girls. Or those with medical issues like ectopic pregnancies, stillborns, etc. But yeah, totally proves your point that bitter nosy men gossiping & shaming women they've never met before is exactly the same as women dying in alarming numbers after their basic human rights were revoked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:15 PM
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This a really lame hill to die on. Would you tell a woman who just lost access to abortion "atleast your alive, so why do you act like it’s the end of the world"? You do know women are actually dying since Roe was revoked, right? The maternal mortality increased drastically since. Come on, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:01 PM
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Dated a guy for months before the mask slipped. When I called him out on it, he accused me of being a man-hater.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:05 PM
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Not "therapy is only for feeemales" during men's mental health month. It really is self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:03 PM
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Right so that's what I'm saying. Most modern women pretty explicitly prioritize egalitarian relationships, leaving RW/manosphere dudes a significantly smaller dating market. It creates a self-fulfilling loop of alienation. Edit: wrong image <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:56 PM
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I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here. I don't think it's a common thing to assume people are mentally ill because they can't find a date. I mean, I've seen people suggest incels/ blackpillers seek therapy to deal with their self-esteem and body dysmorphia issues. But that's just practical. Wouldn't RP advise the same? Yes. Men & women experience different issues in dating and relationships. Who would disagree? Also not sure why you roped in that book about female mate choice. If by "pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:19 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by very high for working class male defendants? You must have specific percentages. You're refencing a quantitative data source, right? Which one - UCR, FBI, UNODC?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:17 PM
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Totally. You obviously hang out with feminists all the time, follow feminist content creators etc. So, who in the movement is saying women can’t consent after any amount of alcohol? Like specifically. Name names.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:09 PM
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All the time? Shit that's rough. Can you be more specific tho? Like gimme a ballpark - what percentage of charges involving men accused of rape go to trial? And how many of those trials lead to conviction? Roughly. Based on your knowledge of the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:54 PM
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Could be, I suppose. But definitely isn't. Do you know how much substantive evidence you need to provide to be accepted for a jury trial?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:14 PM
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Well, first of all your premise is kind of shit. The law states that a person (male or female) who is incapacitated (someone who is passed out, vomiting, unable to walk, or incoherent) by alcohol or drugs cannot legally consent to sex. The law does not state a "women who's consumed any amount of alcohol" cannot legally consent to sex. In terms of mental illness, there's a notable difference in cognitive ability between a mood disorder (like depression or anxiety) and a psychotic disorder (like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:57 PM
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🤜🤛 That's a refreshing response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:48 PM
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I believe even just one woman needlessly dying due to RW religious policies is too many. You? What's your acceptable limit of dead women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:35 PM
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"In the first full year of Texas’s state abortion ban (2022), maternal mortality increased significantly. The maternal mortality rate in Texas rose 56 percent. Among White mothers, it was up 95 percent. Over the same time period, maternal mortality overall increased just 11 percent in the United States." I'm sure rich RW people get all the abortions they want. However, anti-abortion laws are still killing women. It's direct cause and effect. "In the first full year of Texas’s state abortion ban …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:11 PM
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I don't know which country you're in, but three women per day are killed by men in the US. The president is a rapist. And women are needlessly bleeding out in parking lots due to archaic patriarchal policies. That's why I'm not comforted, personally. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:50 PM
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Yes women are human with human brains and varied, rich internal lives. We're not dopamine driven automatons incapable of nostalgia and reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:01 PM
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I'm not sure you understand what hypergamy means. Can you define your terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:31 PM
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It's census data. It's not correlational, it's descriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:11 PM
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Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:08 PM
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Census data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:03 PM
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I'm going to need a concrete example cause this post doesn't make much sense. Personally, how rich or attractive you are has zero impact on how empathetic or patient I am. For instance, if a man believes that my discussing the reality of misogyny is "lecturing" or "preaching,", then I assume he's a misogynistic, undeserving of consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:45 PM
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You doubt census data? K.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:42 PM
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Your "experience" says more about your own cognitive abilities than anything else. Theory of mind seems to be particularly challenging for you. Sincere question: are you a teen?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:36 PM
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Holy shit. I can't believe I have to explain that women have the same cognitive abilities as men, like foresight & prospection. Just like all humans have a propensity towards cognitive dissonance and other mental heuristics. You get that women are also human, with human brains - right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:27 PM
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No need to catastrophize, my guy - hypergamy has been on a steady decline since the 1960s. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:15 PM
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God the expectation of all women to be nurturing and motherly. I am not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:05 PM
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Every living thing dies alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:33 PM
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I get you. I'm not trying to say you implied anything. And I actually agree that women having more socio economic leverage has somewhat evened out the playing field. I was referring moreso to the fact that many men have only recently realized women also have preferences, and thus rather than improve their social skills or personality - they're having hissy fits and voting to remove women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:36 PM
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Manipulating insecurities to sell products and services is nothing new - that's how marketing works (a la Bernays). <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:58 PM
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I truly believe that social media exposed men to the simple fact that women also have sexual preferences. And much like men, these preferences are sometimes shallow. For example. "Are you a butt or boob guy?" This occurred alongside a concerted political effort to associate right-wing with traditional masculine alpha daddy values - and that also funds the manosphere. Ultimately providing a scapegoat for insecure men to blame all women for not fucking them on demand by claiming modern women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:50 PM
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Not everyone places a high premium on their political views being mirrored. This is true. However, leftist women are leftist because they specifically place a high premium on political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:46 AM
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Everyone lies to women Most people lie to themselves. And still the point remains, LW men aren't the ones pretending to be RW on dating apps. You don’t have many options for a good quality stable relationship with a man you find attractive and treats you well. Well, I'll give you that - I am very particular. Tho I'd rather die alone than pretend to be something I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:36 AM
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I would quibble with that data. I think there are a lot of women who are attracted to the right-wing/red pill/manosphere types because they tend to believe in more traditional values. Sure. Those women are also RW and traditional. Different women are interested in different men. Mind blowing, I know. However, most women are leftist, and RW/traditional men are objects of disgust to us. I think a lot of women would rather date the liberal guy but when it comes to finding their person, a lot of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:02 AM
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Of course RW women will date RW men, but the majority of women are leftist. Again, the data is consistent, LW women view RW & manosphere men as lower on the primate taxonomy. Really, that should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:56 AM
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So both RW and LW men lie to women? Well shit, I thought this sub was populated with 'nice guys.' And no, I'd throat a cactus before I'd ever date a RW man. And of course you know that as a woman I have a lot of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:51 AM
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Not sure why you would associate a political ideology with masculinity, but either way, most women do not want to date RW or manosphere men. This is hardly controversial if you hang with women and follow female content creators. I do suppose trad women are into "traditionally masculine men," but the majority of women are not. Personally, I get douche chills just thinking of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:47 AM
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True. I do appreciate men that can regulate their emotions and insecurities. In fact, everyone should read more Stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:48 PM
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Yes I'm sure they marry conservative, trad women - which is what the manosphere men should do as well. Everyone wins!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:47 PM
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I'm sure that RW men have to hide their political affiliation, actually. Left wing men are generally more educated, healthy, and well-read. But RW women do prefer RW men, so not sure what the problem is. You can just avoid leftist or progressive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:46 PM
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Why do RW men pretend to be LW on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:43 PM
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It's mainly right wing, trad women that expect you to pay, perform, and lead. Most women are fine splitting the costs of the first date. While, some may prefer the man pay at first, that's often to avoid men who are looking for a free prostitute. Personally, I always pay for the first date when I like a dude. It's a way for me to ascertain whether he's one of those weirdos uncomfortable with a woman who earns more money than he does. It's a battlefield out there, when you're trying to avoid mano…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:56 PM
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I think the data is pretty clear that most women are unattracted to manosphere or right wing men. So can jester all you want and hope you "get some sex," but the fact that you're undesirable isn't proof of your insecurities, but because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:49 PM
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I don't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:12 AM
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I agree. It's normal and good that species populations tend to stabilize around a steady-state value. It makes little sense to reproduce exponentially, like an invasive species, to save 'the economy.' Still, I enjoy throwing that whole global sperm decline fact around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:11 AM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:03 AM
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Not the end of story, actually. Every country on Earth has experienced a significant decline in birth rates over the last half-century. Even the hyper sexist nations. My met theory is that the decline has something do with the average sperm concentrations and total sperm counts falling by more than 50% over the same time frame (50 years). It's odd to me that with all the moral panic regarding the great replacement conspiracy, there's very little mainstream discussion about make fertility issues.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:04 PM
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Brutal. The upper admin at my college are also a bloated, incompetent mess, but that's a different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:25 AM
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Same, specifically exclude. I worked as a bartender while in uni and was approached frequently enough by rich dudes. I'd let them down politely for the most part, because I didn't want to lose my job. But internally I was like, you sir are my enemy. Guillotine. Though, Dolly Parton is a good example of a wealthy person with good values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:19 AM
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Weird. I'm a prof. I speak politely to the faculty & staff because it's my job, I'm not there for drama. As for the few other profs that I'm actually friends with (male & female), we curse and talk shit. We'll get together for wine and weed nights. We also have a strong union. In 10years, I've only ever seen one prof fired. And it wasn't for talking ' man-like' to women or whatever. It was years of insubordination.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:03 AM
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I work in higher ed. I've seen students cry, but not colleagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:53 AM
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from statistics about the growing number of women being happily single When women report this, generally what's meant is: we're happier single than partnering with a manosphere or right-wing man. Really, any dude that assumes women are inferior and less deserving of human rights is highly unappealing. Except to right-wing women, they're still dating and marrying these types of men. and conversely, a man losing his job is correlated with divorce but a woman losing her job is not. I mean, if you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:12 PM
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No one is being attacked, but still, that's kind-hearted of you. I fear this sub might break your spirit if you think those rp terms are offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:32 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:07 PM
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Body count, ran through, pumped and dumped are all pretty common terms in the rp community.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:03 PM
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Yeah totally irrelevant to your premise that society is falling apart because women have too much autonomy. That's the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:23 AM
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You said normy's are simps. Meaning you view the majority of men to be less masculine and inferior to yourself. It's kind of arrogant. Pickmes are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:20 AM
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Right WW3 means nothing when the very fabric of society is unravelling because men outratio women on dating apps. Very rational perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:17 AM
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Bullying and emasculating men by calling them simps isn't misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:05 AM
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And is it women creating the apps and starting the wars, or?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:04 AM
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What does that even mean? I pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:02 AM
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By extension then, society only functions if the average woman has fewer freedoms? Is that the conversation we're afraid of having?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:04 AM
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Im simply referencing the latest data. You can google it yourself. easy peasy. Tho I gotta say, it's interesting that you're so cocksure about a completely unverifiable statistic. This tells me you're emotional invested in the idea of it. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:27 PM
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Yeah the good news is I can assure you that you've got it staggeringly wrong. Most men have in fact had sex within the past 5 years. Well the latest data is only up to 2024, so I can't speak to the past two years. Do you have a reference I could read?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:17 PM
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Yeah. Having all those qualities certainly would be like winning the genetic/early childhood environment lottery. But, I'm looking for something a lil more quantitative. How would you measure "attracting women?" Like - the number of women that approach you? Or is it the number women you have sex with in a month? Year? Finding a long term relationship? Let's say, hypothetically, there's one guy who's approached by and has sex with 40 women of average attractiveness over the course of a year. Duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:07 PM
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No because that's self-evident. Whereas, 'the majority of men are either virgins or haven't had sex in five years" is not. I can't find any evidence to support it. Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:53 PM
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Okay. And what does it mean to be successful with women? Like how would you operationalize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:47 PM
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Are your father and grandfather Red pill or normy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:35 PM
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Isn't that misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:33 PM
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Where did you the find data that shows that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:31 PM
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Most people are average. That's how average works. I can assure you average people have sex all the time. Jodi Arias receives tons of love letters in prison from men. Should I assume this means all men value looks over a criminal record?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:11 PM
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I'm not sure I understand. What does it mean to be successful with women? Blue pill men are normies, right? Are there no athletic or masculine normy men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:09 PM
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Red pill doesn't work then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:57 PM
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Wait. Most men haven't had sex in the past 5 years or at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:57 PM
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Dragging sweet Kenny into this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:39 AM
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Exactly Aesthetic is everything. Every woman in my circle has varied and specific tastes that I don't fully understand, just as they don't get my own. Like the whole looksmaxxer dead eyed fratboy look is profoundly off-putting to me. It activates some primal revulsion. I get instant date-rape & low-literacy vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:55 AM
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Depends which data you're referencing. There's no actual primary data as porn companies don't collect demographics like age, gender, ethnicity etc. So yeah, it's true that a couple of studies from McGill, with small sample sizes (N= 100 - 300~) of regular porn viewers show that women are more likely than men to self-report agreeing with questions like: "aggression is arousing." With the noted caveat: women preferred pornography in which both partners had "some degree of control over the situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:00 PM
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Right but a substantial amount of women who seek abortions do so because contraception failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:34 PM
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What if a couple is married with children and they don't want anymore - should they stop having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:26 PM
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It's such a weird premise: violent tendencies= authentic male behavior.. like what? Isn't that "misandryyy?" Also the idea women don't have to "fake it" at work is ridiculous. I'm constantly biting my tongue in meetings because it's a job. I have to pay bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:27 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:32 AM
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Are beards manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:59 PM
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Yeah a pick me is a woman who throws other women under the bus for male approval. Like Pearl Davis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:00 PM
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It was the Alberta government that denied funding. Also, that was decades ago. Canada has shelters for men. Nonetheless, my point remains, you can't complain that feminist orgs aren't doing enough for men when the manosphere advocates to remove women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:36 PM
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Ok dude 😂 Even if it's not good enough for you, feminist orgs have advocated for men's issues more than the manosphere has ever for women's. In fact, a good portion of the manosphere advocates for repealing women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:20 PM
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Off the top of my head, The Fawcett Society: advocated for a paternity mandate Canadian feminists challenged legal definitions of rape to include men/boys as victims (Canadian Rape & Sexual Assault Law Reform 1983) Make Mothers Matter: pressured the UN to emphasize the paternal leave NOW advocates equal hiring practices to help men who apply for female-dominated careers like nursing and teaching. WOW Foundation: partnered with Equimundo for the MenCare Changemaker Summit for men's mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:49 PM
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You're going to have to provide an example 'cause feminist organizations regularly advocate for men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:23 PM
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How are those issues you mentioned considered misandry? Like yeah, the 'provider role' & circumcision are problematic but also byproducts of patriarchal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:18 PM
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Most reasonable response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:37 PM
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This is a banger. The RP conceptualization of prehistory is basically the Flintstones and I hate it. Paleolithic genetic mapping research shows no difference in the migration patterns of males and females. Both sexes were equally transient when choosing a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:55 AM
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We understand that you believe women are sad you're not 'approaching' us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:27 PM
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Got it. A group-based belief/identity system, with its own linguistic structure and shared reality. Anyone who disagrees is a coping beta cuck (or just a lying evil feeemale). Like a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:24 PM
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It's not a belief system? Don't RPers believe they see the 'truth' that women are only attracted to a small % of men and because of that women are hypocrites who refuse to take accountability for choosing "bad guys," and later "settling" for beta providers after she hits "the wall?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:04 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:33 PM
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This is good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:58 PM
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The porn industry is evil and unregulated. You cannot ever be certain you're watching consensual encounters. Besides, is it cheating if I send pics of my naked body to a random man online? If yes, then it's cheating for men to seek out images of naked women online. If you're reading loli porn, you're only a couple of steps away from building that dopamine tolerance straight into a sting op.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:48 PM
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Porn is older than the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:24 PM
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Updated 2025 data. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:12 PM
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https://archive.is/GLNQp https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/61/5/1293/390842/Eight-Decades-of-Educational-Assortative-Mating-A
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:03 PM
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<image> Same shit, different package.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:01 PM
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Slut-shaming is an informal method of social control rooted in pre-enlightenment, patriarchal religious sentiment. It's unevolved behaviour that signals insecurity and impaired cognitive ability. It was once very popular to shame masturbation as dirty sinful behaviour that led to negative physical/psychological outcomes. See: The Kelloggs cereal origin story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:53 PM
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Oh. Confidence has a different linguistic meaning for men and women. That's a new one. Does that cross culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:52 PM
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I'll post it again and you can explain which part confuses you: "All of written history. Currently, it's the political narrative of the great replacement conspiracy, manosphere narrative of VAWG, "feminized education " to blame boys failure rates, the idea that the very fabric of society is unravelling because feminism exists at all...just to make a few. "
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:55 PM
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Yes, it does not work 100% just like that, some people are better than others at hiding it. Yes. Exactly. Humans don't have the gift of precognition. People with DT traits are by definition manipulative. Just observe how they act and speak. Just take a look how they handle interactions with people they consider below them. Do you have an example? Because you don't have to be personality disordered to be an asshole. It's common knowledge that people who treat others 'below them' poorly are best t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:54 PM
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People are "attracted" to confident people. It's the nature of our monkey brains. Andrew Tate didn't become popular amongst a female fan base. It was men that fell for his big alpha daddy performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:49 PM
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Personality disorders are much more difficult to diagnose than mood or anxiety disorders, for reasons I think should be obvious, given you're so knowledgeable on the subject. If humans were able to precog DT traits and behaviours, we wouldn't need a criminal justice system .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:47 PM
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Why would a confident person make you raise an eyebrow? False bravado or performing hyper masculinity, sure. But actual confidence is suspicious to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:30 PM
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How do you screen for dark tetrad traits before a first date? Like what's your personal methodology?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:28 PM
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Right but you would blame a teen or adult if they're victimized by a dark tetrad personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:01 PM
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Sure. Do you blame children for the existence of child sex trafficking rings?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:52 PM
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You mean you don't blame the elderly as a whole for the existence of scammers? Because that would be an absurd overgeneralization, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:51 PM
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Cool yeah that sounds scary like a sitcom version of reality. Good thing men can simply choose better and pursue a right-wing trad wife instead. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:47 PM
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Why do I get the impression you're currently serving in the current US administration?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:43 PM
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Mmhmm. And what if that child is victimized by a dark tetrad personality type?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:11 PM
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Propaganda is a hell of a drug. The truth is people are easily misled. That's why we have a criminal justice system instead of a "you should have known better" system. You have some fair points as far as crypto scams go. But what about the increasing number of men being sextorted online? These are often lonely, horny men who are seeking companionship. Would it be fair for me to use this to claim that negative dating outcomes, such as the male loneliness crisis, are a result of men's poor choices…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:09 PM
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Huh? Children are responsible for their own victimisation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:53 PM
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I don't need your precarious little Greek hierarchies to not want to date a neet or a gooner. Not that they're actually capable of providing for themselves, let alone anyone else. Besides, women make their own money now. Your oppression has ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:49 PM
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Did I say all women are capable of smelling insecurity? Or did you hear some women say that and decide to criticize women as a whole? As far as dating advice goes, yes it's more beneficial to appear confident rather than insecure and needy, but that applies to all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:47 PM
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I agree it was kind of funny when millions of MAGA men lost their life savings to Trump's crypto pump and dump. Twice. However, I still judge the scammers more harshly because they're immoral and criminal. And I wouldn't blame "all men" for the actions of some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:43 PM
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I think it’s biological to a large degree. Women are attracted to confidence, strength, and power. Everyone is attracted to these characteristics because it's woven the cultural hegemony. Your response reads like a pseudo-evo psych. You leave no inclusion for individual developmental experiences like attachment styles. And science is 40 years deep into epigenetics and neuroplasticity, so a purely evo-based perspective is outdated. Leftist women for instance, avoid right-wing men like the plague.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:39 PM
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Porn addicts, neets, gooners, gym bros .. The list of undesirables is growing exponentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:34 PM
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All of written history. Currently, it's the political narrative of the great replacement conspiracy, manosphere narrative of VAWG, "feminized education " to blame boys failure rates, the idea that the very fabric of society is unravelling because feminism exists at all...just to make a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:33 PM
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Idk. Most feminist women intentionally avoid right-wing, manosphere, red pill, black pill, theo-bros, groypers, and incels, etc in general. It's not my fault podcast bros have radicalized more men into permanent singlehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:28 PM
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It can take months to years for a psychologist trained in personality disorders to diagnose a client, but you expect women to figure it out on the first date? Dark tetrad (triad is out-of-date) personality types also disproportionately target men through things like crypto and sextortion scams. Should we blame 'all men' because they were victims who made poor choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:23 PM
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Wait. Isn't it the connecting thread of the whole manosphere - that all dating problems are due to women solely being attracted to mythical chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:33 PM
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jfc
/r/MensRights06/04/26 11:00 PM
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I'm not convinced. The sex industry is worth billions of dollars. Men love sex workers. Just dare mention the Swedish Nordic model or ID verification laws and watch them crash out. Besides, 95% of women view the men on that list as loser status. Obv.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:24 AM
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There are different types of feminists. You're describing a liberal feminist position. I run in more radical circles. For instance, I think the shame belongs to johns, pimps, pornographers, sexbuyers, gooners, etc. Onlyfans is especially exploitative. https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/why-is-anyone-still-defending-onlyfans
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:04 PM
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No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:22 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:37 AM
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Exactly because MeToo didn't go far enough. Epstein was behind the scenes pulling PR strings for many of the men accused during that time, btw. He was key in disseminating misinformation to undermine the victims "as using their sexuality to get what they want from powerful men."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:34 PM
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Did you miss this whole Epstein saga?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:23 PM
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A man's value in life is based on his bank account seems misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:18 PM
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Well it sounds like you don't really like women anyway, so win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:54 PM
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Schrodinger's chad. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:30 PM
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Ah. I see. And since you're a 6'2 chad with a magic dick, it worked for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:24 PM
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K if you're a 6'2 chad that chooses which women you bestow with your magical cock, and also which women are super-special enough to deem worthy for a LTR, then why would you need the red pill to teach you the ancient cheat codes? What the fuck does one have to do with the other lol? Who says any of those dudes either heard of TRP, or found out about the proper tactics? Blackpilled dudes started as hopeful red pill tutors, for whom the secret teachings failed. Hence why they call themselves "blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:14 PM
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Assuming a hypothetical thought experiment is meant "to slander all men" is dramatic. Especially in a world of sex trafficking masculinity "gurus" and child-raping politicians all foaming at the mouth to revoke women's rights. Women are subjected to men cackling over "your body, my choice" after electing a government with that very same intention. But sorry to hear about your big feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:24 AM
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First off female bears are more likely to engage in bluff charges and usually only when they have cubs nearby (which is disallowed by the hypothetical). First off I've never been charged. As far as my experience goes, bears run away when they see you. Sorry. I make it a policy of not empathizing with people who overtly conflate me with rapists/murderers for a shitty meme that started with TikTokThots. Great! This is why women choose the bear. You're seething with resentment over the mere thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:52 AM
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The only places I can think of where you're likely to end up "alone" with a black bear is in Canada or Alaska. (Btw, the black bear is a 'gimme,' I could easily go for brown). Very good. I'm from the northern region of Canada. And I've been "truly alone" with bears in the woods on many occasions. Also moose, lynx, and all sorts of smaller creatures. So, my lived experience probably holds more weight than your condescending rambling abstract statistics and speculations about game theory. Black be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:56 AM
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Did she say she personally encountered the bear alone? Yes, I did. You ignored me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:34 AM
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You were able to "get women" after the age of 18 thanks to TRP's "unspoken social rules" to cheat code your way into...what? Her pants? A relationship? How do you measure success? And if these universal "woman-whispering" tactics work so well, why are there so many blackpilled fellas running amok? Why are the dudes over on the "average height" sub having full-on tantrums over being 5'10?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:31 AM
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K. I'll bite. What results do you get? And how does TRP facilitate those results. ***I assure you that I understand TRP. It's cartoonishly shallow and simplistic. Your kind isn't known for your nuanced takes. It reads more like a pre-enlightenment understanding of psychology and human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:40 AM
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Yup! You nailed it. Your personal experience runs counter to their preferred narrative. They hate that you're living a pleasant life. To combat cognitive dissonance, they'll write you off as a bluepilled simp beta cuck who's too stupid to see through the matrix. You've been scammed into "raising another man's child" by an evil whore who settled for you after years of getting "pump&dumped" by a string of mythological chads. It's the "female dual mating strategy," of course. She "chose" a "bad boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:35 AM
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No red pill isn't a reflection of reality. That's why the average person is referred to as a normie. "Normal" people are usually perplexed and skeptical when I explain manospherian ideology. They think I'm speaking of a tiny, fringe group of Internet weirdos because no healthy functioning adult would believe these things irl. Red pill/manospherian folk wish to make their ideology reality. That's why they commonly discuss things like enforced monogamy, pump&dump, slut shaming (ie high body count …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:59 PM
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Let's not pretend there's not an unholy ecosphere of manospherian meatheads endlessly whining about the cruelty of "feeemale nature" like it's their job. Point made, fellas! We get it! AF/BB. You can talk about anything else now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:37 PM
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God I'm so fucking over this "top 20%" OkCupid chart from a decade and a half ago. I don't know how to explain how math works to your kind. Most people are average. Average people date, fuck, marry every hour of every day. Because that's what average means. You want to have casual sex with as many beautiful women as possible. Great. That's all you. But stop making it everyone else's problem. Whining all over the ether "about shallow women love top 20% Chad" when that doesn't happen for you. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:16 PM
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🎯 There could be a million reasons a man is alone in the woods. Like, is he disposing of a body? Is he Ted Bundy? A predatory opportunist? There's only one reason for a bear. And like you said, a bear is predictable. A bell can scare it off. My dad and his buddies knew a guy from the area. His parents owned a farm with a lot of horses when they were kids. So, since that time they've all called him "Horse Balls," or "HB," in front of my grandma. HBs parents have long since died, and the farm is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:47 PM
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You mean when they are waking up? Yes. From spring til fall. April-ish - October-ish. The scenario is being "alone in the woods." Yeah dude. That's exactly what I mean. I've had numerous encounters alone in the woods. I live in the woods. It's especially common to run into bears when picking berries. Ask your dad and his "bush buddies" if a woman would be better off in that scenario. I did. After some discussion, they ranked the order of preference: Bear, Woman, Man. Unless it was during April w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:22 PM
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Shit! I didn't even make the Judy Garland connection. I'm off my game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:59 PM
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Oh right. You guys seek 'empathy' for your plight. My bad. I didn't mean to trigger you by suggesting women don't want to be 'pump&dumped' to build your self-esteem. Sorry your dick is sad that you have to settle for some average woman. That must be really fucking hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:58 PM
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Wow that hurts from a dude whining about "the only way I can get sex is by finding a girl to settle down." Calm down, princess. I don't know who taught you life is easy and you deserve everything you ever want handed to you without effort or merit. It's like toddler brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:31 PM
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"get sex" This is the subtext. Like sex is a resource you extract from women. A confirmation of your "desirability" as status symbology amongst men. All to elevate your place in the broarchy. It's just gross, dude. This is why women are choosing to be single. We don't like to be used as a masturbatory aid to feed your ego (pump & dumped). Shocking, I know. Sex is a shared experience. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:09 PM
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Yeah exactly. I live in a high bear area. A bearea. It's quite common to run into bears after the spring thaw. Even my dad and his bush buddies said they'd rather run into a bear than some rando dude in the woods. I mean granted, I'm talking black bears, but come on, it's common sense. Honestly, I can't believe we're still talking about this. We've gone through a couple of rounds of "your body, my choice," and "repeal the 19th." Which seems more detrimental to women as a social class than this f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:54 PM
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Lol I'm all for using 'gale' as a short form for gay male tho. I mean, it's ultimately up to the community, but you still have my vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:45 PM
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You're telling me Sabrina Carpenter is this female equivalent of Andrew Tate? With a straight face? Jesus it's like you're not even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:25 AM
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I think you and I both know why there's no equivalent. There's no money in misandry. Many men are thirsty for misogynistic content, a scapegoat for all their problems. Whereas women only want to be free of the non-stop fucking misogyny. jfc it's exhausting. A tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:12 AM
-1

Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:04 AM
0

Name one misandrist that's a household name equivalent to Tate or Clavicular who also hocks useless products & services to her millions of hapless followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:04 AM
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Generally speaking, a man who is not a fb is attuned, reciprocal, and thoughtful. That would look like consistency, follow-through, remembering little details, respecting boundaries, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:05 PM
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I cannot believe we're still talking about the man v bear thing. Please get a grip. We've been through a whole cycle of "repeal the 19th" and "your body my choice" since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:39 AM
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That happened too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:16 AM
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It's like the diet industry that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:15 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree. This is a public health issue. Comparable to the pro-ana sites that began cropping up in the early 2000. They gained a lot of traction until about 2010, when years of pressure from advocacy groups finally led to government and tech companies intervening & banning the content en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:09 AM
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Exactly. They want sympathy, not empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:53 AM
12

Seriously. It's like in the 80s when the weirdos thought D&D was a form of Satan worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:00 PM
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Can we quit with the dark romance moral panic. I swear the discourse is no different than the 80s satanic panic over video games & metal music. JFC. "The research found that dark romance, a subgenre that does not follow the dominant sexual script, had more instances of verbal consent appearing, especially if the phrases were more vulgar." Source
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:58 PM
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Lol I assure you, my dude. Maslow's hierarchy isn't empirically supported. This has been known since the 70s. There are universal basic needs, sure, but no stringent order. Major longitudinal studies & meta-analyses have addressed this. But you don't have to get all snippy. Self-actualization itself is empirically supported - apart from the hierarchy. Dig?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:51 AM
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That's fun you're smug about it, but self-actualization is conceptualized across many fields of psychology, including my own, personality. I also mentioned an internal locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:12 AM
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Maslow's hierarchy is humanistic psychology, it's not empirical. You'd be better analysing yourself within the frame of Internal Family Systems is you truly want to actualize. Anyway. None of this has anything to do with OP whining about not "getting" casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:32 AM
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You can't self-actualize through hedonism & egoism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:18 AM
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Saying men need external validation via casual sex to raise his value amongst other men in a superficial alphabro pecking order....is pretty misandrist. Have you tried an internal locus of control or self-actualization?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:39 PM
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Dude is really upset because his therapist can't magically turn him to the mythological Chad who pumps and dumps women at his convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:38 PM
1

Yes. But I prefer to alternate paying for dates. Same as going out for dinner or drinks with friends - we usually take turns paying for one another. Maybe it's a Canadian thing 😂 idk. The polite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:57 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you about playful antagonism. That's not the topic at hand. I'm referring specifically to OP's question about negging as a manipulation tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:02 PM
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It's not my interpretation. You can go ahead and search for the definition of "negging." Then compare and contrast with the definitions of "flirting" or "teasing." Insecure men filter themselves out by employing manipulation tactics like negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:58 PM
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Criticism, sure. But we're talking about negging - if a man insults me in order to lower my self-esteem and make me more pliable, I simply return the favour. You know like, poking my finger into the wound of his deepest insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:37 PM
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Sure I would. I never strike first, but I do strike harder. It's fun for me. Besides, I have my own cash and abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:27 PM
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Nah. If a man insults me, I insult him right back. Then if he gets offended, I tell him he's too sensitive; it's just a joke. They love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:24 PM
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Right so that's why women should neg men in return. Just put him down a little bit to raise each other up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:21 PM
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I think you're saying predatory men avoid shame by sexually assaulting women and children. And women should understand this because we don't want to be shamed for not adhering to traditional gender roles? Am i getting that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:34 AM
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Yeah I'm not convinced we need international pedo rings or online rape chat groups to make men's lives more meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:20 AM
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Yes, that's fair. When it comes to dating tho, I'm implicitly referencing the danger of insecure men in an epstein class, telegram chatroom, serial date rapist, or rejection-murder kind of way. Ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:04 PM
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It's not the desire itself, it's your need to interject and assert your desire into unrelated discussions. It's telling. The way you're responding, reactively & reflexively defensive. Again, you ignore the substance, derail, and move to protect your ego. "I'm normal. All men are like this." You're hiding behind a persona. Were you made to feel inadequate as a child? Were you shamed a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:22 PM
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I'm not speaking about men in general. Just you, sailor. You felt compelled to roll into the comments of a post about love, hygiene, and basic social skills. Instead of responding to the substance, you derail the discussion and center it around your personal need "to get casual sex from hot women." Could be any number of personality variables involved, I won't speculate without data. But behaviourally, this chronic 'desire to be seen as someone who is desired' does give me compensatory vibes. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:58 PM
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Yeah that's fair. Tho it's not really about sex with hot women then, is it? In this context, casual sex serves as a vehicle to fulfill the ego function. What you truly want is to feel desired. And not in terms of a mutual monogamous relationship. More like a harem of nondescript "hot women" overwhelmed with lust for you and sexually available at your convenience. Classic anima projection onto the external object, "hot" woman. You're chasing a fantasy of completion, not real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:24 PM
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I'm cool. You're the one offended by statistics. Don't worry tho, I'm sure you're still a unique snowflake in your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:42 PM
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Actually you did mention the women who choose to breed with Elon and Trump 🤮 - right wing women. And I yeah agree, there are way too many predatory men running amok. The fact you're a queer woman generalizing all women is something. I grew up in the hipster/punk scene - I can assure you I've never dated a RW man in my life. Plenty of ugly broke dudes. I prefer the weirdos. Conformist/traditional men are a fucking bore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:40 PM
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Then why would it matter if you have to pay for "casual sex with hot women?" How much more casual can it get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:31 PM
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I don't understand. I'm aware that I'm not a millionaire or a supermodel; I'm not an expert in my field. There's really nothing exceptional about my life. I don't need a participation trophy. And that's okay. I enjoy my career and hobbies. I'm physically fit. I love my friends & family. Math doesn't hurt my feelings. It's funny, you manosphere dudes talk a big game about Stoicism, and yet ...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:26 PM
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Sure. Like attracts like. I generally don't get along with right-wing, male centered women precisely because they run defense for predator men. You know, like the type of men that view themselves as predators and all women as prey (🐟).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:19 PM
2

Why? Would that change functions of basic math?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:12 PM
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Good question. The biggest threat to all genders, and the ecosystem at large, is insecure, greedy men that exploit others to feed their endless need for power in order to restore their fragile egos. Like the predator class currently in power, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:09 PM
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That's a whole lot of generalization without support. Personality is more varied within than between gender. Authenticity is individual by definition. I'm an opinionated woman. I don't care if you agree with me. However, I also acknowledge that my opinions are my own - not the word of god. So, I'm open to modifying when approached with evidence and data to the contrary. Confidence isn't about stubbornly resisting any opposing opinions. That's weak-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:21 PM
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Do you want love or a series of casual relationships? It's fine either way. However, the framing does change the average RP complaint from "women should lower their standards" to "I wish I could be a Chad who pumps and dumps (exploits) women in order to raise my status amongst other men."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:07 PM
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Yeah I suppose this analogy works if you perceive all men as predators and all women as prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:02 PM
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Most people are average. That's how average works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:01 PM
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Do you have a lot of female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:00 PM
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Did your mom settle for your dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:59 PM
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Yeah insecure men can be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:50 PM
2

So, authenticity? That's not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:49 PM
4

And yet you know who pays for their meals?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:34 AM
1

And you made the assertion that the government took away your power to choose which women benefit from productivity and protection. But hyperbole, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:25 AM
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Right. So you're going to get hyper pedantic for what? Just for the sake of contrarianism? The love of the game?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:51 PM
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You want me to cite the 19th amendment and the ECOA? Like what - an APA reference list?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:41 PM
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You first
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:17 PM
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False reporting is a crime regardless of gender. And you do realize the rates of false reports are equivalent across all crimes, not just SA. Besides - if you're paying attention to the news, there's a whole international sex trafficking currently happening - in which the men involved are actively covering up. Might not be the best time to discuss "accountability."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:25 PM
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Your taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:20 PM
0

What rights did men lose after women were legally considered citizens with the right to vote and own bank accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:18 PM
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Do you have many female friends? Because I have many, and I've never known a woman who does this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:15 PM
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True. It's all divine madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:50 PM
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It was more equal when women weren't allowed to have bank accounts? But drunk unstable men are entitled to sex, intimacy, and children because they "need" these things? How long can you live without access to food and shelter, compared to living without sex or intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:52 PM
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I mean political power in the standard sense, those who hold power in government. Currently, in the US men hold ~72% of government positions. And a huge chunk of that is the Epstein class. Hmm... How could an Epstein class exist in a gynocracy? Seems a little counterintuitive, no? (You should also double-check those homelessness stats, btw). Men also cause the majority of violence and crime- which costs the tax payers approximately 5 trillion each year. So women are slaves to men by having to fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:59 PM
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Sorry to hear. That's rough. I suppose dating someone with similar struggles could be beneficial in some ways. Though it's usually recommended to not date while in treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:48 PM
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Historically, most men were serfs and slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:03 PM
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I'm just here to add necessary context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:21 AM
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I wonder if the fantasy isn't about attention from the average woman, but instead to become the mythological Chad archetype who uses and discards hot women - ultimately to gain power and prestige amongst other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:20 AM
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"Experiments 2 and 3 found pro-female bias to the extent that participants automatically favored their mothers over their fathers or associated male gender with violence, suggesting that maternal bonding and male intimidation influence gender attitudes. Experiment 4 showed that for sexually experienced men, the more positive their attitude was toward sex, the more they implicitly favored women."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:43 AM
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If women can't work together how did they form the gynocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:40 AM
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Truly dick-centered behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:37 AM
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Thanks for the tip but I'm aware that average people date and marry other average people every day because I go outside. And that's how math works. I'm surprised to hear manosphere men suddenly become self-righteous and claim they overlook flaws in women. What happened to no piercings, tattoos, coloured hair, make-up, fat, single motherhood, n-count, boss bitches, gold diggers, chad widows, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:23 PM
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If society is gynocentric, then why don't women exploit their inherent sexual power to own the majority of wealth, resources, and political power?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:08 PM
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Have you ever known someone with mental health and addiction issues that required frequent hospitalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:05 PM
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I'm rarely shocked anymore, but confidently claiming that mental health and addiction issues in men are a result of lack of sexual attention in high school is wild. Especially considering all the existing men's mental health campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:53 PM
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Word. RP is mostly a bully/victim complex rooted in ad hoc hypotheses and cognitive heuristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:16 PM
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Physical flaws?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:13 PM
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Men should choose better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:12 PM
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My brother and I lived together in our twenties throughout uni. We partied together and shared the same friend group. Presently, he is married to one of our good friends, works as an environmental engineer (as does SIL), and has two young children. Personality wise, he's high in empathy, intelligence, openness. He and SIL have an egalitarian relationship (share household & parenting responsibilities 50/50). He's crushing it. I'm super proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:10 PM
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Wait. You'd date a woman with addiction issues who is in and out of mental facilities as long as she's not butt ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:04 PM
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Tbf these dudes often talk about wanting a woman who is "submissive, soft" and who will "be his peace." So like. .. no discernable personality characteristics whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:17 PM
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I'm sure some women experience retroactive jealousy. Personally, it wouldn't bother me at all. I've never even heard of this as an insecurity until it became a redpill trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:04 AM
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No. I wouldn't even think to ask how long he waited to have sex with past partners. That's pretty invasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:29 PM
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There's no hr department for online dating. It only happens when it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:22 PM
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This is an advice subreddit, no? Besides, I'm technically referencing Stoic philosophy not psychoanalysis. How embarrassing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:52 PM
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We can get to the second-order consequences when you acknowledge that women, love, sex aren't resources to be distributed. Manosphere men are seeking a cheat code for compatibility & human connection, but these are abstract, messy concepts. There's simply no way to avoid suffering. And we already know how it all ends. I get it. It's really fucking sad. It's the real redpill. The best we can do as a society/economy/culture is reduce collective suffering while maintaining & valuing personal autono…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:51 PM
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Good question. I'm referring to self-awareness in a Socratic context, "know thyself." Which is particularly relevant considering Socrates was famously ugly. Differentiation means, in psychological terms, the ability to maintain a healthy sense of autonomy (self) while still remaining emotionally connected to others. This is a skill. Takes time & effort to develop. When it comes to OLD, the insightful, differentiated individual is able to regulate the pain of rejection (inherent to the platform),…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:23 PM
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Sure. Society tends to frown upon women who don't want children, or women who have a sex drive, or women who are too outspoken; too ambitious (ie. not submissive or soft). I may never find my ideal relationship. I may die alone. Oh well. That's not going to prevent me from self-actualizing and reaching my potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:54 PM
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You're not singularly persecuted. Your pain is not unique. The Buddhists said 'desire is suffering' thousands of years before you were born. You've made your failures an identity - to the point of self-absorption, so that you never have to look inward. The ego needs an enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:54 PM
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Pooling taxes for social services that benefit society at large is different from a state-appointed girlfriend. The latter is an issue of personal autonomy. It's like expecting the government to supply friendships to the lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:43 PM
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Fascinating. Notice how you're projecting your failures onto complete strangers. If you want a specific career, you gotta go to school, study, get good grades, network - and even with all that, you still may not land that dream job. Life's hard. No one is coming to save you from yourself. The good news is, it's never too late to develop an internal locus of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:36 PM
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The fact that you had to explain that 🫠 I've never once heard the manosphere discuss personality/individual differences. Except for 'lack of impulse control,' which is only brought up in discussions of a woman's sexual past (but doesn't apply to men with a high 'body count'... for some reason. )
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:18 PM
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The mechanics of self awareness & differentiation? It's a personal growth thing. Besides, what's the alternative - force women to be less picky?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:11 PM
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That's just it - who told these men that life was easy? That the world owes them a participation trophy? It seems like a lot of these rp/manosphere dudes emotionally/cognitively stagnated at 14yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:05 PM
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This is such a good point. A common manospherian refrain: "Men are simple creatures whose only requirements are for women to be submissive, soft, feminine." So...a woman with no discernable personality traits who will shrink themselves to play a nondescript, supporting character to a man's main role? This mindset demonstrates a certain immaturity and lack of self-insight. It's a good thing - to know oneself enough to screen for compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:15 PM
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I guess the only solution is for men to become more picky when using dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:51 PM
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Right? I read your post twice like - where's the strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:49 PM
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Exactly. I'm not convinced OP or many commenters have actually been to therapy or understand what it even means. There are so many different types of therapy rooted in various philosophical foundations. I think a lot of rp dudes would benefit from DBT specifically. 'Therapy speak' generally refers to a manipulation tactic; weaponizing therapeutic terminology in order to gain compliance. For example, using the concept of "personal boundaries" to control your partner's autonomy (choice of clothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:12 PM
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Yes humans are attracted to humans they are attracted to, sometimes against their better judgement (depending on countless variables). And generally, humans like to be sexually desired by the humans they sexually desire. This is not a gendered phenomenon. In fact, you'll find more variability within than between gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:19 PM
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Correct. It's a sweeping generalization to determine AWALT based on one study of both men and women that shows modest effects. Most women generally prefer men to be taller than they are, but this study only proves that while everyone has preferences, finding a partner is messy. People often make compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:10 PM
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You're making sweeping generalizations about all women based on this one study (from over a decade ago) that demonstrates height preferences do influence who both men & women pair up with, but the effect is modest (weaker than expected)?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:02 PM
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Is it...documented science? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:50 PM
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Right? Sexual assault is a legal term that even has sub-categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:49 PM
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Right - so that includes the US, which is currently embroiled in a global child sex trafficking cover-up. But I guess I'm just making things up to complain about. Silly me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:33 PM
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The first world? Do you mean the US -in which the president is a civilly liable rapist who was bffs with Epstein for decades, and is actively covering up a global pedo ring? That first world?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:30 PM
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I don't think I'm 'stealing valour' by mentioning the millions of women/girls sex-trafficked each year; including those victimized by the current rapist president of the US - who incidentally, is also rolling back women's basic rights. Seems relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:23 PM
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I mean ... Modern men are still sex-trafficking lil girls and chipping away at women's bodily autonomy and right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:17 PM
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Agree. Perhaps op is not malicious, but this post does seem to echo the manospherian narrative that 'women were much happier before feminism.'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:10 PM
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Anyway. Doesn't redpill teach men to ignore women's advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:37 PM
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Yeah it's funny how some men think all women have the same type. I'm not attracted to any of my friend's partners. Not because they're unattractive necessarily, but because they're not my aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:46 AM
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Most people are average. That's how average works. The pick-up/seduction industry is no different than the diet industry. It's made to fail. Otherwise it wouldn't be lucrative. I pointed you to actual empirical data with predictive value (Gottman Institute). Use it for whatever Machiavellian purpose you please, but let's not pretend like RP is based in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:39 PM
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It's not heavily supported, only heavily repeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:23 PM
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Yes, well if only RP rhetoric focused solely on basic, generalizable facts about conventional attractiveness. Theories like 'AF/BB' are convoluted and unfalsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:16 PM
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When I think of empirical data about human relationships, I think of the Gottman lab (ie. Predicting the likelihood of divorce). In my field we have a saying, personality is more varied within than between sex. Meaning it's difficult to predict personality traits based on sex alone. And yet, RP claims "certain facts about female nature" ... like what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:12 PM
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You don't say? So tattoos aren't a predictable indicator then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:36 AM
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No doubt. My advice is instead of expending all that energy larping Sherlock Holmes, you could just be up front with your dates. Let her know that past promiscuity is a deal breaker for you. The manipulation tactics are lame and most men are too socially clumsy to pull them off without getting ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:22 PM
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Healthy adults tend to have social awareness and boundaries. It's skeevy when a dude tries to shoehorn sex into the conversation in the early stages of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:35 PM
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Do you tend to casually divulge fine details of your sexual history within the first few dates? People tend to view that as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:28 PM
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K. And I expect a date to provide me with their hard drives for forensic analysis before pursuing a relationship. 'cause that's some Richard Ramirez shit. Fucking yikes, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:26 PM
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Only if it comes up organically in a committed relationship. But I don't interrogate my dates for every detail of their past sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:20 PM
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That's not a thing. Adults generally don't betray the trust of a close friend by gossiping with some rando date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:15 PM
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How do you approach that exactly? "I know this is only our third date, but I would like to pursue a relationship with you. Thus, I need to know your past sexual history down to the exact timing, so that I can determine whether you're using me like a beta cuck simp.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:07 PM
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Like what do you even mean? You go on a date or two with a random woman - then creep slide into her friends DMs and ask sexually invasive questions? That's a good way to get a restraining order.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:47 PM
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How would you even know if she 'provided sex to a previous partner?' "Provided" is weird phrasing btw. It sounds like you view sex as a service to you, instead of a mutually enjoyable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:41 PM
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Humans are animals. I truly don't understand why you're pontificating about semantics when we're discussing definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:09 AM
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Correct .That's why I mentioned our evolved prefrontal cortices. The biological imperative is still survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:06 AM
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Sure. Humans are strange animals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:01 AM
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Suicide is definitionally not the biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:00 AM
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Suicide is definitely not part of the biological imperative. Name one species that is known for commiting suicide other than humans? If anything it shows homo sapiens (with our disproportionately large prefrontal cortices) are able to override biological instinct (adapt & survive). Which is why most popular online evopsych theories are pseudo science.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:52 PM
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It's mostly adolescent boys who fall victim to these criminals, but at least you're consistent. Maybe lacking in theory of mind, but consistent nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:30 PM
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Again, I'm asking you if you blame the male victims of sextortion for not "choosing better?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:34 PM
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I'm confused. Are you saying that the 1000s of adolescent boys who were victimized by sextortionists are at fault for ignoring the red flags? Or just women/girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:11 PM
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Maybe it's happened, but hardly equivalent in ubiquity of blaming VAWG on women not "choosing better." There's no equivalent to the victim-blaming weaved into the manospherian narrative: women choose the 'bad boy' (ie. abusive criminal) in their youth only to later want to settle down with the 'beta simp cuck' man for 'stability.'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:05 PM
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It's not that women have a 6th sense for abusers any more so than men do. Some women are particularly adept at weeding out obvious misogynists (manosphere/right wing men,) and creepy dudes. But some people where a mask. Take for instance - the fact that every 5 days in the US a man annihilates his family. Even the media, friends, neighbors of the annihilator gasp in disbelief, quoted as saying, "he was such a 'nice guy;' 'a family man.' And men themselves, particularly adolescent boys, comprise …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:56 PM
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Fuck I'd get dental records if I could. Just the thought of un-flossed teeth squicks me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:57 PM
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Yeah protection & sti testing prior & proof of vaccination. Not that it matters. I moved to the forest a few years back and reached shamanic levels of hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:46 PM
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They also get syphilis dick by 35. Not exactly the discerning type.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:19 PM
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Yeah totally some men are easily emasculated and feel the need to degrade women to restore their own ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:48 PM
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OP asked if women would date a man who earned less, and I said that's generally been my experience. I'm not trying to impress anyone. But overall, good example of the type of weirdo dude that becomes personally offended and attempts to downplay my accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:20 PM
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Which studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:26 PM
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Oh, do you think that would restore their fragile little egos?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:18 PM
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I'm half convinced redpill is some sort of psyop meant to make men/marriage seem as unappealing as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:09 AM
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Submissive is not a character trait - it's a sign someone has been abused and has no agency. Why would any adult need someone else to lead them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:06 AM
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Women are caring, emotionally intelligent, responsible and maternal, but also vicious, unprincipled villains - who are causing the downfall of society by being mean to anyone they deem unlikable. Gotta say, sounds like a poorly developed character written by a man whose only knowledge of women was garnered from redpill subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:16 AM
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I can assure you it's not similar. Women aren't murdering their partners and annihilating their whole families multiple times per week. Close your eyes and imagine the headlines if that were the case. Women outperform men in education and suddenly it's 10000 thinkpieces about "should women be allowed to vote?" What do you think the collective reaction would be if women were Chris Watt-sing their husbands & children every five days?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:55 AM
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Lol k so what are women's positive qualities? Putting aside the whole downfall of civilization thing men will say, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:46 AM
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My focus area is personality psych, but I'm a sucker for Jung. Challenge accepted. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:31 AM
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I didn't insult you personally. I was asking you to extend your logic to personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:00 AM
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Psych prof/researcher
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:59 AM
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Generally it's been my experience that I make more than the men I date. It can be an uncomfortable conversation as some dudes get weird about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:50 AM
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Cool anecdote but you didn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:58 AM
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The majority of women don't use dating apps. You're using a specific population sample to generalize the whole, while at the same time omitting other data that demonstrate a 70/30 gender imbalance, and how men of any age mostly swipe on 20yos. All this while declaring statistical averages aren't relevant. At some point you're going to have to face the obvious, you're cherry picking data to shoehorn into your a priori conclusion. Or just be a misogynist forever. Idc. It won't charge the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:37 AM
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I mean, you're a misogynist, how many women did you "run through" last week?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:22 AM
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The demand for non-misogynistic men? Yeah that's the baseline for the vast majority of women. Which is why as more men are radicalized into misogyny, the birth rates are plummeting. This is ultimately good as misogynists generally have lower functioning cognitive abilities, pooter educational achievements (moderated by ADHD or narcissism) and higher rates of interpersonal violence. Bad genetics. Btw, I said 'empirical' evidence. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:12 AM
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Cool. Does this second hand account of "one study" factor in data from the past 5 years that demonstrate the historic lows in sexlessness (both men and women). Or conversely, the record-breaking rise in women choosing to remain unmarried and childfree (causing the 'falling birthrates' moral panic)? Lotta confounding variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:02 AM
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Yes some are. Right-wing, redpill women, and tradwives in particular). And some men are attracted to abusive women. The only difference is there are more violent, abusive men than women. These types see women as property/sex objects, which is worldview that long predates redpill discourse (but is otherwise indistinguishable) The misogyny is baked into the cake of social & religious institutions. It's been well established in research since WW2, objectification is the first step towards violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:54 PM
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They're not known for their grasp of nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:40 PM
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How's that working out for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:39 PM
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So true, king. Instead they refer to women as superficial, deceptive, inferior, gold-digging whores that are directly causing the fall of Western civilization, and notably, who are at fault for all VAWG because their "female nature" prevents them from "choosing better" (ie. women only fuck the top 5% of men - a cohort somehow comprised of criminals and abusers).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:32 PM
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You see, it's superior, alphabrain logic to seek dating advice from the lonely heart he-man woman hater club.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:17 PM
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Anecdotal. Statistically, most people are average. Average people meet and couple-up every day. I could throw out actual verifiable facts like: in the US, a man annihilates his family every 5 days Or 3 women are murdered per day by current/former male partners, male relatives. But it would be a logical fallacy for me to base my entire worldview on all men being murderers. I'm going to need more critical thinking in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:12 PM
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And despite that irrefutable, empirical evidence (rando incels creating catfish profiles), the more rp/manosphere discourse grows in influence, somehow men are more single & sexless than ever before. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:00 PM
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It's wild. Like sorry I'm not attracted to men who assume themselves inherently superior to all women simply because they're born bepenised.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:53 PM
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I know all women are evil lying temptresses or whatever, but has it occurred to you that dating is wildly disproportionate because women aren't attracted to misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:36 PM
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Sure thing, sailor 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:52 PM
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Shit I must be confused due to my inferior emotional female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:19 PM
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Nice. The most masculine thing you can do is not give a fuck about gender norms. There's nothing more unattractive than an insecure man with an external locus of control. The type to constantly perform a conformist version of masculinity. Unironically, these men are most easily emasculated. Side note: dark triad people (men & women alike) are generally rated above average in physical attractiveness. Simply because these personality types are vain; they put in more time, money, and effort into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:08 PM
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Hypersexual men often exhibit domain‐specific aspects of high impulsivity, poor judgment, risky behavior, ADHD, pornography addiction, neuroticism, stress, anxiety, depression, insecurity, financial problems, health issues, paraphilic behaviors, low agreeableness and conscientiousness, substance abuse, childhood trauma, high criminality and recidivism rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:43 PM
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Of all the veiled threats I've ever received, that's certainly the most creative. Though it seems you have a limited view of history. Homo sapiens have existed for far longer than 3000 years. Empires rise and fall ; trivial in comparison to what nature has in store to rectify the imbalance. Even your language is confined to social constructs. Typical rp verbiage blaming 'feminists' and 'democrats' for the sins of your forefathers. Enjoy the 6th mass extinction event! I mean...that is if the mega…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:00 PM
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It's bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:31 AM
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If so, then let the birth rate continue to plummet. Fuck it. We've officially reversed the Flynn effect. It's time for an extinction burst. 🤞🤞
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:29 AM
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Idk dude. When women say they're looking for effort, we mean attunement, reciprocity, consideration, empathy etc. All this pontificating about 'sacrifice' (sacrifice what?) and 'demand of romance & family planning' (which I assume is rp speak for submissive, tattoo free virgin with no male friends) is coming off convoluted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:12 AM
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That first study is from a decade ago, and samples only 112 undergraduate students from Israel. Even the authors state: "that the concept of "responsiveness" is ultimately elusive—it can mean different things to different people." I can't find any replicated data. Hardly rigorous enough to make generalized conclusions about gender. And you've profoundly misunderstood how the term "entitlement to sexual pleasure" was operationalized in the second study. If you bothered to read it, you'd see it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:49 PM
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Depends on whether a woman is looking to start a family. In this economy, it's wise to procreate with stable, employed, educated men. I'm childfree. I don't care how much $$ man makes per se, though I do prefer intellectual, educated types. And of course, no woman wants a gold-digging hobosexual. He should have basic adult skills like employment and shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:36 PM
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Gotcha. There are no indicators that a man just wants to 'pump & dump' because all desire is genuine desire. Thus women have no way of discerning whether a man is a "nice guy" or "bad boy." All the redpill advice about women 'choosing better' is essentially bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:27 PM
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Okay so back to OP's question then, how would a woman know she's genuinely desired or simply being used for sex? Btw. "How would they even get an erection in that case?" RP dude in below in the comments says he settled for his looksmatch and takes Viagra to compensate for the lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:10 PM
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She settled for her looks match, and still you treat her poorly? I thought rp men wanted women to settle? Might as well go for chad if the outcome is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:04 PM
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Right so...effort. As the feminists say, "if he wanted to, he would."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:00 PM
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Men don't have sex with women they find unattractive? I've been told by rp men that 'chad' will readily 'pump & dump' women below their 'looks match.' No?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:58 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:51 PM
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Facts don't care about your...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:47 AM
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Your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:44 AM
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It's changed. Men desire marriage more than women now. Probably due in part to the Internet revealing just how many men view women as inferior and incapable of basic decision-making. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/10/18/new-data-men-are-more-likely-to-rush-down-the-aislenot-women.html https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/11/14/12th-grade-girls-are-less-likely-than-boys-to-say-they-want-to-get-married-someday/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:31 AM
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Clearly you've escaped the matrix. Alphabrain thinking 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:11 PM
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It's more likely that redpill originated with the abrahamic religions. You know like: all women = evil lying temptress whores. This is Cold War Chad: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:26 PM
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Boomer men had the same complaints, same struggles, different technology: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:14 PM
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The premise of your question is based on the idea that "we're moving towards a society of accepting all sexualities." Are we? Not sure if you've noticed, but there's been a growing backlash against sexual autonomy, freedom of expression over the past decade or so. The whole 'falling birthrates' & 'great replacement ' & 'hookup' panic is predicated in the fear of sexual freedom of anyone who's not a straight man. Because - when hasn't the male sex drive ever been characterized as an unconscious b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:10 PM
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Well put. These dudes don't hate 'chad;' they yearn to be him. That is to say, the mythological/cartoon version of the 'bad boy' who degrades ,abuses, and discards 'whores' (ie. puts women back in 'their rightful place' of subservience and inferiority - in order to restore their fragile egos. It's the bully-victim mentality in a nutshell: "Results showed that some characteristics such as aggression and hyperactivity are characteristics involved in bully-victims profile. Rejected bully-victims sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:41 PM
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jesuschrist. You really gotta question the basic cognitive abilities. It's like the entirety of the rp worldview is rooted in insecurity, porn addiction, and crippling self-absorption.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:34 AM
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Wel....I mean you all told women to choose better, so now we're avoiding misogynist (facultative or otherwise). Everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:16 PM
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The answer is embedded in the language you used to describe the female orgasm as "unnecessary" - thus it would make sense it requires "effort and coordination." Most women can get themselves off in under 5minutes - little effort involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:16 AM
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Technically the clitoris is more evolutionarily advanced than the penile glans in that it contains thousands more nerve endings; and its sole purpose as an organ is sexual pleasure. It doesn't take "deliberate effort and coordination" for women to masturbate to orgasm. I think we need to take into account that patriarchal religions/cultures have dedicated a great deal of time & energy to psychologically castrating women from their innate sexuality. For example, the virgin/whore complex, the 'dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:56 AM
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☝️☝️ It's also evident in the way that these dudes need to write long screeds about why they're not insecure at all actually - every second day on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:31 PM
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Brilliant nugget of wisdom, dude. But we're discussing vetting low effort men. You're getting a little ahead of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:22 AM
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Like I get you want to shoehorn every interaction you have with a woman to fit your emotional-support narrative, I do. But maybe you should scroll back and read the words I actually wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:44 AM
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Thanks, tips. Tho we can probably expedite the process by not dating the low-effort, possibly redpill bro in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:51 AM
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I didn't say 50/50 is misogyny. Redpill & seduction/pick up artists regularly advise men to put as little effort into dates as possible, while still trying to extract sex from as many women as possible. And especially so when it's a woman they deem unattractive or not relationship-worthy. So, how's a woman supposed to "choose better," if not by vetting low-effort men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:01 PM
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I mean ...what would you suggest women do to avoid being 'pumped and dumped' by a "bad guy?" I make a good salary. I'm happy to go 50/50 if there's no chemistry. If it goes well, I will offer to pay for the second date. I've found this tactic weeds out the redpillers and misogynists (aka low-effort men) quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:33 PM
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I'm not traditional in any sense, but I would say it's important for women to avoid the redpill or 'pick up artist' men who plan cheap dates because they want access to easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:43 PM
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Exactly. That's why most women avoid red pill men, right wing men, theobros, etc. Who wants to be miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:57 AM
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Dick is abundant and of low value. You said it yourself: "men just want to fuck" The market is saturated. There's no basis for familial or psychological health with an insecure, controlling man with retroactive jealousy. You've been "led stray."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:51 AM
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Yeah who has time for that? Other than insecure weirdos with a pre-enlightenment understanding of sex and biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:44 AM
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"No man wants..." < This is exactly why having a boyfriend is embarrassing now. Male approval has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:42 AM
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Oh, so you're only slutshaming women "led stray" in order to help them. I thought you were just insecure and gossipy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:39 AM
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You can do what you want, but being overly invested in other people's sex lives makes you sound like a nosy, gossipy, church lady. It's off-putting behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:28 AM
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Ok. I'll bite. What sort of investments are you referring to besides money then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:48 PM
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But you think all "women are looking for money from men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:40 PM
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...the vast majority of women that exist are not, nor would they like to be, sugar babies. Sample bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:33 PM
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There's no amount of data or logic that would change his mind if he's determined to self victimize. Personally, I would nod my head & smile, end the date early, and never contact him again. There are too many dangerous variables correlated with misogynists. It's not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:55 PM
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. Just look at Casey Anthony. There's no collective council of men who can push her out of favor. I guess we have our answer 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:42 AM
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You say that, and yet OPs question remains. SHOULD these traumatized men (handsome or otherwise) receive forgiveness for their past sins in dating.* *Note: In this context, "sin" is defined as being the victim of abuse in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:12 AM
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You're overreacting. I think it's great that everyone is treated equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:15 PM
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Okay then it shouldn't be controversial to not want to be around them. Traumatized men are the worst to date, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:01 PM
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I mean we are replying on a post about a woman who turned her life around after being a15yo sex trafficking victim. Soar like an eagle? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:21 AM
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yeah that's fine I guess, just like men who were traumatized, right? Boys who were abused or bullied, men abused in divorce/by family courts, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:40 AM
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15?!!!??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:32 AM
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I'm gonna need an example of how men are more logically consistent in comparison with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 09:43 PM
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This is the first time I've heard of a 1:1 ratio between libido and testosterone; not to mention all the other hormones involved in sexual arousal... but I'll bite. If sex is a need for both men and women, why would men want to decrease their collective odds of fulfilling their needs by shaming women who have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:21 AM
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Women pretend that sex isn't a need for men because they don't want to be viewed as uncompassionate. In this hypothetical, do women also need sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:41 AM
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Why would it be inconvenient for women not to genuinely acknowledge that sex is a need for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:30 PM
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What's all this then? "The primary reason women say that sex isn't a need for men is because it would be inconvenient to genuinely acknowledge it as one."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:12 PM
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Wait. Just 11 days ago you suggested a "sexfax" website to shame women for having sex at all. Including: "• On what date # she had sex? • Did she rawdog? • Did she give head? • Did she give anal? • How's her face and figure, on a scale of 1-10, ect. • Is she tight or wallowed out?" So ..sex is a "need" for men but women should be publicly punished and ridiculed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:06 PM
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I'd warn girlfriends in my circle, at least, that our "friend" has sexist beliefs & thinks women are inferior. I wouldn't start a campaign, but it would be unethical not to give the heads up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:17 PM
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No. Autonomy and competence are of the most important psychological necessities. You're just spewing recycled religions/porn propaganda. Personality is wildy complex.
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:19 PM
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Men are 6 times more likely to leave their wives if she's seriously ill. How does that fit into your theory?
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:13 PM
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I mean...someone needs to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:22 AM
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Thread redeemed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:32 AM
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I am going down this thread and am like, holy shit ACTUAL STOICISM. Guru on, Mr. Cuckedalt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:17 AM
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Yes, i standby that statement. It is a "sign" as in an unconscious indicator of which women are evolutionarily attracted to. A thick, lustrous head of hair is also an "indicator" of health and fertility in women of which men are attracted to. I don't know how to explain things to you more clearly. I feel like you're intentionally missing the point? Or maybe it's a simple miscommunication? Either way, enjoy your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:09 AM
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Cool. I hear what you're saying, and I agree. I did not say that baldness and fertility are correlated, only "unconscious" indicators of genetic value. I've mentioned this numerous times now. Again, my main premise was in support of the argument that women are attracted to men in their general age bracket. Young women are attracted to young men, with hair. Older men are more likely to be bald or balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:16 PM
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I'm only supporting the original argument that women are attracted to men within their age bracket. Yes. I'm in my 40s. :) I'm surrounded by a lot of men my age. I'm aware of how the average 35-45 year old male looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:00 PM
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Having a full head of hair is a sign of good genetics. You're probably correct about the significance of the correlation; however, women -unconsciously, biologically- are more attracted to a man with a full head of hair, v-shape, clear skin, height, etc. These traits are signs of youth, health, and fertility. An overall better chance of survival for her offspring. We would be doing OP a disservice to not inform him to take advantage of his youth. (It may never get this good again).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:37 PM
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"You are pearl to my oyster, girl" < maybe that line would do it. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:00 PM
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This is true for women. But, it's strange how the mainstream doesn't recognize the same in men. There are literally decades of research on the subject. Anyway, here are a few resources: https://www.llnl.gov/news/study-shows-genetic-quality-sperm-deteriorates-men-age https://time.com/5754177/autism-sperm-genetic-mutations/ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44641#1 https://menfertility.org/sperm-mutations-escalate-in-older-men/ https://www.nyp.org/news/male-biological-clock-may-be-ticking-…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:28 PM
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You missed something... "The results indicate that a father aged 20 passes, on average, approximately 25 mutations, while a 40-year-old father passes on about 65. The study suggests that for every year a man delays fatherhood, they risk passing two more mutations on to their child"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:52 PM
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A thick, lustrous head of hair is a sign of health and fertility. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:30 PM
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Both bald and balding men are pretty unattractive - especially to younger women who would rather find a man their age with a full head of hair. It's an unconscious/biological instinct to mate with the most fertile man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:24 PM
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Even though I'm not American, does OP not include American women? Just presenting easily verifiable biological facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:23 PM
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The chances of having a child born with down syndrome or autism are significantly increased with a father over the age of 35. And 40% of men experience erectile dysfunction by 40. Expected to increase with the advent of porn induced erectile dysfunction in the next 10 years. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:18 PM
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Nope. Not American.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:15 PM
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66% actually. Bald or balding. Google "sperm quality after 35" if you need. Having children with men over the age of 35 increases the chances of down syndrome or autism significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:14 PM
4

Why in the name flaming christ would anyone waste their energy? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:47 PM
1

Women make better spies simply because men are so easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:44 PM
1

By the age 35, most men are bald, have poor sperm quality, and 'dad bod' 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:29 PM
1

66% of American men are bald by age 35. Let's not even get into the pot bellies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:28 PM
2

But men's sperm quality deteriorates after the age of 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:26 PM
4

Hear hear!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:27 PM
5

The extent that some men will go to just convince themselves that 3.9Billion humans preferred to be abused, is really telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:17 PM
1

sample bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:28 AM
2

Does the Pareto Principle apply to men as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:28 AM
2

In terms of the Big 5, it's interesting to note that women also score higher than men on openness, which seems to negate your point. Really, the overlap effect (in sex differences) is negligible at best. Especially when you contrast it with a more reliable dysmorphic difference, such as height. It is "paranoid" (or at least a cognitive bias) to be worried about getting struck by lightning or being in a plane crash. It is perfectly reasonable for women to avoid male pattern violence and abuse as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:37 PM
17

Right. We are mammals with a limbic system. It's always dumb when I hear women are "more emotional..." like, do you mean women have a more reactive peripheral nervous system? Emotions are neurotransmitters and hormones necessary for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:26 PM
11

OH, I see - in response to a post about a man lying to his wife for over 30 years because he actually preferred the woman who treated him like shit. cool cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:11 PM
6

I just searched the whole of FDS and did not see this headline. Did you see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:56 PM
1

I just searched the whole of FDS and did not see this headline. Where did you find it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:56 PM
3

OP. You're an absolute delight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:31 PM
0

Me too, sis. Thanks for speaking up. xo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:50 AM
1

I have male friends I've known since childhood. You'll, of course, respond > "women don't know how men think." And this actually makes me sad for you. There are authentic people out there. I hope that you find that one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:49 AM
1

Lol, no, I don't see women as friends, Good lord. We truly, truly create our own prisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:37 PM
1

Viewing women as objects does not oppress women, how does that even work? I mean...Google it...? This is hardly a novel or understudied phenomenon. There are literally thousands of studies and meta-analyses on the subject - really beginning after WW2. We have a multifaceted and reliable understanding of the relationship between objectification, dehumanization, and violence. I feel like you're being intentionally incompetent so that you don't have to consider the implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:35 PM
2

...he could...ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:38 PM
1

You have a prefrontal cortex and limbic empathy system. If I am hungry, I don't steal food from someone's mouth - despite my biological imperative to eat. Because I am not 3 years old. You're being cognitively lazy because it benefits men (as a class) to oppress women as sexual/reproductive objects. As "lesser than" Following your reasoning to it's logical conclusion, women should be in burkas and not able to leave the house unless accompanied by a man. Lest the poor hapless men are tempted by h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:54 PM
3

You should date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:51 AM
0

It blows my mind that some dudes believe not getting their dicks wet is more important than women's bodily autonomy. Hypergamy decreases in nations where women have more economic choices. Likewise, it flourishes in the more severely patriarchal cultures. It's the insecurity of men to try to control women's sexual capabilities. Also known as, oppression. We see playing out in real-time in the Taliban take over of Afgnaistan. Live a life of meaning. People, in general, will be attracted to that. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:57 PM
0

precious "autonomy" YIKES (hint: this is a creepy statement) Most people are average. That's literally what average means. Average people mate and marry other average people. In the field, this is called the "determinates of liking." And has much more reliability and validity than a couple of OKCupid studies (sample bias). So, 31%. OK. Aren't young women of the same age bracket reporting 20% sexlessness? I don't feel bad for either. Also, how does this data translate cross-culturally? It is my s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:53 PM
2

BIG BIG YES. Personality matters a lot to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:16 PM
0

Yes, I am quite aware of 1950s existential/humanistic theories, lol. That's not empirical evidence, sweetcakes. Besides, I am more a disciple of Rollo May or Viktor Frankl. Sex is not a biological need, medically speaking, as in you don't die without it. When you say: "31% of young men that are deprived of sex" implies you believe these men are "owed" sex. In modern psychology, it is well known that THE most important psychological need is autonomy. Your autonomy ends where mine begins. The fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:14 PM
0

Do you die from not having sex? No? Not a basic need. And no, women shouldn't take responsibility because some guys are simply unfuckable. If they are undesirable, it's for a reason. Evolution? But really, it's so much easier to better yourself than blame everyone around you. That is a mark of weak-mindedness and immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:03 PM
25

It makes them feel better to have a tautological, parcel-packaged theory as to why no one wants to touch their dicks. Otherwise, they'd have to focus and self-development.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:36 PM
0

True happiness comes with authenticity and actualization. If you look to someone else to fill a void, you'll be forever on the hedonic treadmill. Do you want to "get sex" or have a mutual and meaningful experience with another human being? Do you want to "get sex" or validation? If no one wants to fuck you, then it's you. Change. It's like applying for a profession without a degree and then getting angry no one will hire you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:30 PM
4

Sir, you are a sage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:21 PM
2

EXACTLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:20 PM
24

CALEB IS NOT A CHAD. This is the problem with RPs - their theories are as stable as a table with one leg. Falls apart with the slightest bit of scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:33 PM
2

Hear hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:31 PM
0

"What alternative?" "Gatekeepers?" Good sir, what the fuck? - Try treating women like they are fully autonomous beings with rich and varied internal lives...instead of targets. - Also try therapy. Know thyself. Do shadow work. You boys create your own prisons and then cry about it the unfairness of it all. It's both sad and fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:16 PM
1

Making fun of misogynists is kind of my kink. xo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:10 PM
1

"UNTIL MARRIAGE" lolololol Are you a 1950s traveling minstrel?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:04 PM
1

You got a lot of women lying to you for commitment, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:06 PM
1

Awww...you're cute when you're earnest. Have you heard of epigenetics? Neuroplasticity? Neurogenesis? Or just pop-evo-psych?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:05 PM
1

Pseudo-intellectual terms: "regret sex" ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:28 PM
380

"We worked it out in therapy, and I put a ton more effort into my appearance." What kind of fucking therapist is this?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/22 09:23 PM
0

Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:21 PM
1

Aren't you busy trying to extract sex from a woman like she's an automated dispenser?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:18 PM
0

Rapey take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:12 PM
45

Also the dowry system. Many of my students are South Asian. The stories I have heard from the women are harrowing. We've shared many a cry together.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/22 08:09 PM
1

"get sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:07 PM
0

How silly of me to assume sex should be mutually beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:03 PM
2

"get sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:49 PM
2

Sage Pub: (2019) Domination and Objectification: Men’s Motivation for Dominance Over Women Affects Their Tendency to Sexually Objectify Women Shnabel, N. & Bareket, O "In the present research, we examined the association between heterosexual men’s motivation for dominance over women and their sexual objectification of women. We found that men’s social dominance orientation (SDO) correlated with their tendency to sexually objectify women (Study 1). Inducing threat to men’s dominance over women by…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:43 PM
2

...and here I am, working a job and paying for my own groceries LIKE A CHUMP. ;) I guess I was just too busy researching things like global rape, femicide, and domestic violence stats. How "privileged" of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:37 PM
0

What is this clown music I hear in the background?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:20 PM
1

You're cringing imagining a conversation about commitment? Isn't this the whole basis of the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:34 AM
3

Ooohhhhhhhh. Well, I am from an intergenerational family of gold-miners, so definitely not upper-class. My sibs and I are the first to attend Uni. Please explain which "womanly" privileges I have that are reflected in the statement: "no one owes you anything."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:28 PM
3

What is this privileged position you speak of? I firmly believe neither the world nor its inhabitants owe me shit. What about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:19 PM
2

Or... Am I repeating stoic idealogy? Also, prominent in Buddhism and Taoism. I am happy to teach you more, kitten.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:00 PM
2

Are height preferences oppressive? Man, I'd love to have your life if that's the biggest of your worries. btw - I am 5'2. Almost all men appear 6'2 to me. LOLOLOL Who gives a fuck. Do you have values? Do you care about anything more than yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:46 PM
1

Or... just vet accordingly. It's best to assume that men are inherently dangerous and deceptive until they prove otherwise. This is just plain survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:33 PM
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I mean, yes - you're not contractually obligated to stay in a relationship. But don't pretend to be committed to extract sex from a woman. Don't be a fucking ghoul. C'est tous!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:20 PM
3

A case study in tautology.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:58 PM
1

You're living the dream, babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:56 PM
4

OP:"If a women doesn't want sex without a relationship they should say so, otherwise no ones the bad guy when it doesn't work out." Me: OK, but what if men lie? This chode: ALSO THE WOMAN'S FAULT. SHE SHOULD BE MORE DISCERNING. Critical aside: Me unpacking the previous poster's analogy is not a strawman fallacy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:38 PM
1

yeah... ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:35 PM
72

Seriously. Fuck this chode. Put his face on the side of busses.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 09:12 PM
2

Rejection hurts HARD for anyone. Not just men. Psychologically speaking, it is one of the most painful experiences we can go through as humans, even activating pain receptors in the brain. Do you want to grow? Evolve? Self-actualize? Get comfortable with discomfort. I tell my students all the time: if it hurts, it means your growing. xo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:09 PM
1

I don't give one fuck what most men want. I don't live my life for male approval. If a man cannot live up to my standards, OK bye. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:05 PM
1

I'm really not. Maybe I have a bias given my cohort. Or maybe you don't have enough women friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:04 PM
5

Woman: I won't have sex until monogamy Man: OK. Let's be monogamous. Also man: PSYCH! ...It's all the woman's fault because if a woman states"she doesn't want sex without commitment, and them proceeds to have sex before that commitment is established, she obviously does have sex without commitment." This logic isn't headache-inducing at all. xo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:02 PM
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These characters are hilariously misinterpreted, yes. So, in order to achieve equivalence, it would have to be the same for the blue-pill mascot - a deeply distorted interpretation of a character that serves to justify one's own shitty, real-life behaviour and self-pity. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:59 PM
2

Sexual coercion is the same as a man buying a woman some pizza? Ahem... "If a woman says she doesn't have sex without commitment, and them proceeds to have sex before that commitment is established, she obviously does have sex without commitment. That's on her." BUT ALSO If a man lies about being committed to her "She isn’t entitled to commitment." So, it's also on her. THE DESIGN IS FLAWLESS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:56 PM
2

If he pretends to be committed in order to obtain sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:53 PM
2

"really just a throwaway comment on my part." Ya don't say. ;) "Femicide...a nice little throwback." I'll let my criminology lab know you said that. You sound very logical and reasonable. Protect your shit, boys! The women are coming...to sexually manipulate you...out of your resources. Man - I needed this laugh today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:52 PM
2

I don't mind at all, but I always do the sneaky thing where I call over the server and pay before my date notices. Then I tell him he can pay for the next date. It's important to me because, with my career/lifestyle, I cannot deal with an easily emasculated man. I also have 0 interest in marriage or kids, so I don't care about 'resources.' And .........I really, really enjoy spending time alone, so attention means little to me. Dick is always abundant, but I prefer a man who is intelligent, inde…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:48 PM
3

We agree. xo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:43 PM
0

To be equivalent, it would have to be a protagonist utterly and completely misunderstood by the fanbase at hand (TYLER DURDEN lololol. Has any redpiller ever even read Palahniuk?).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:28 PM
2

Do women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:24 PM
1

You're not wrong. Adult humans "biologically" have developed a prefrontal cortex to account for things like conscientiousness, executive functioning, cognitive control, impulse inhibition, and empathy. In order to override this, you must see learn to see the other as "an object" as "less than human" (think military/boot camp training). Given that boys and men are literally taught from... -the first pair of movie "tits" they see - to the first time an older man shows them the porn-covered walls o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:20 PM
1

Cool but no one owes you shit (especially not validation, wtf?) Life is hard. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:08 PM
3

So men are lying to manipulate and coerce women into sex. And women are lying for 'attention?' FOR "ATTENTION." Bahahahahaha What a highly operational variable you speak of. Really, it's my favourite 1950s, misogynistic excuse for blaming women for everything from their own rape to femicide. And resources. You do know that women have...careers right? We're getting married less, having fewer babies (if at all). We don't need your resources. I'm sure that makes you equally as resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:05 PM
4

Right. That's on him. If a woman says she's not going to fuck until monogamy - the only way she's doing so is if the man lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:58 PM
2

"women will lie and use their sexuality to manipulate to get what they want" What do they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:38 PM
4

Men lie...to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:37 PM
5

What if the man promises commitment but was lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:36 PM
1

I mean. I do though. Youre traipsing into my field now, dunning-kruger-ly. Try me .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:49 PM
2

"squall like literal infants" = Poetry. My favourites are the men who try to appeal to my sense of empathy because women won't touch their sad, gross dicks. Complaining about "height-preferences" and "how women love Chad," all the while intentionally ignoring the historical, modern, and material oppression of women that has existed FOR MILLENIA.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:54 PM
6

Nope. Your bodily autonomy ends, where mine begins. Sex is neither a right nor a basic need. You will not die without sex. And most importantly, women are not expected to be sexually available to you... in order to raise your serotonin levels...? Pet a kitten, eat some tryptophan, listen to music, jerk off. There are many ways to induce serotonin levels. But this is life. No one is responsible for your well-being but yourself. Really - give your head a shake that you would assume otherwise. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:10 AM
6

You should really learn how to find fulfillment and meaning within yourself. Stop looking to others to soothe you. There will never be enough to feed your insecurities. No one owes you anything. Life is hard. Any basic philosophy class will teach you this. "I'm not completely unable to see the idea of feeling like your whole identity revolves around your body or your attractiveness to people as being something that can bother someone." Objectification is dehumanizing. Really now, it's time to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:02 AM
1

It's so fucking pedestrian, these men, and their socialized sexual entitlement. The absolute, narcissistic delusion and lack of empathy to believe that everyone should center their boners above all else. They can't help it, right? It's "biology," they claim as a way to fend off the ever-present nag of cognitive dissonance. And if we don't buy their tautological justifications of constant harassment (or worse)? Well, then it's because we are obviously just man-haters, to be ridiculed and dismisse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:57 AM
17

This is just good intel. We should code the responses into categories >>> on a spectrum of impotent rage to whining.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/22 09:00 PM
5

I don't think you have any historical or material understanding of radical feminism. All of this is incredibly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:13 PM
1

YAS
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:28 PM
1

This is meaningful data, and yet it isn't when you don't account for effect size or the overlap principle. In terms of personality differences, gender is far more varied within than between. For instance, which sex is more likely to be introverted? Extroverted? It doesn't work like that. Gender is not a significant predictor. Don't even get me started on the role of neuroplasticity And also funny you're mentioning the role of social welfare as OP is from the Netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:50 PM
1

Well said 👏 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:40 PM
7

You have your answer in these comments. Absolutely no sympathy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:45 PM
1

*** and yes, our shitty-shit political leaders do not care about anyone other than their corporate overlords. Still, I'm happy to be in Canada during a pandemic. I hope you're staying warm and safe. It's pretty out today, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:06 PM
1

Did I antagonize you? Did I say all individual men are evil? You seem reasonable and I take no offense. It's all about critical analysis. That there exists incels (which is a blatantly misogynist subculture), or shocking femicide rates, or such dismal political representation is reflective of the values of said society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:01 PM
1

That's funny. I live in the same area. The city in which just two years ago, a man went on an incel (see:anti-woman) killing spree. In a country that has only 26% female political representation. Admist the ongoing, woefully underfunded, MMIW investigations. And the same country in which a woman is murdered every 2.5 days by a current or ex male partner Shall I go on? I understand what you're saying; however, just because other countries have worse statistics does not mean we can't critically an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:25 PM
1

And there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 07:02 PM
1

Ok,well. I know changing your mind is futile, and I'm genuinely sorry that you're suffering. I imagine your experiences shaped these views. And I get it. Life is pretty shit. But...I'm stil going gesture wildly to the fact that men, worldwide, literally have the vast majority of social, economic,and political power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:08 PM
1

I don't disagree. I can see the historical and cultural context of what you're saying. However, men are valued for being more than just providers, especially now when women can easily provide for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:49 PM
1

You're right, I was being flippant. *more than half the population in overweight ** men are more obese in my country
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:44 PM
2

I agree with you, no one is gaining anything by operating within this dynamic. However, my point remains. Women are firstly judged by their perceived fuckability in relation to men. This is objectifying and dehumanizing. I think it's important to stop 'naturalizing' this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:41 PM
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I see. There's plenty of interesting and relatively undiscussed examples of fierce female intrasexual competition in nature. Not that we want to make a naturalistic fallacy, but it's worthy of reflection. Most people require a certain level of sexual attraction to their partner. This is undisputed. The OP is referring to the fact that women are romantically valued for their appearance over and above other qualities. Whereas men can extract value from other qualities, ex. Humour, musical ability,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:05 PM
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So, you don't believe that there's intrasexual competition in humans? Other species? "Own inertia towards misery" Yes. The fact that we are socially/culturally/romantically valued not for who we are or what we do, but on how we look is deeply and alarmingly dehumanizing. No?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:05 PM
5

The majority of Americabs are fat. The majority of Americans are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:51 PM
1

But more men are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:31 PM
6

I mean obviously you're correct (and elegant and concise, fwiw). That was a fun read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:41 PM
0

Wouldn't Alphas = ID in this analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:07 AM
2

🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:29 PM
2

**less
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:16 AM
6

That's...a terrible analogy. OP is asking if it's so terrible, disgusting etc. to sleep with an obese/unattractive woman, why do men do it? If it were simply for sexual gratification, they could easily masturbate. There's a missing variable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 12:20 AM
3

Probably would've experienced a lot less trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 12:28 AM
5

I never had a desire to have children. Marriage... I've considered it a couple of times, but I've always been resistant. I really thrive off alone time. It would take a lot to make me want to share my space.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 11:32 PM
3

Thanks! I'm happy to hear. I'm always a lurker and rarely post anything. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 07:34 PM
19

I'm a single, 42 year old woman. And yes, sex and dating has improved. First, the idea that women "age out" or "hit a wall" isn't true. Dating is as abundant as ever. The only difference is now I'm much more discerning, cognizant of my personal preferences, and likely to spot red flags. I find men at this age generally more empathetic and interesting. Though I will date younger from time to time. It's the overall feeling of confidence, and comfort in one's own skin. When I was younger, I was hin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 07:09 PM
4

Both photos. Just a bunch of average looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:42 AM
5

If they say they like Joe Rogan. Run.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/20 02:18 AM
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