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The progression is to practice turning the directions smoothly into a conversation, when you can do that the next step is to ask for her number before you leave. This is quite a good example of smoothly turning directions into a longer conversation and then asking for the number https://youtu.be/5Lkqone-hig?si=eUhg6szWryfopEM3
/r/seduction18/08/24 04:25 AM
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Look at actors. Guys with big muscles are adored by men (Arnie, the Rock etc) and the guys who are considered heartthrobs are much much leaner (Ryan Gosling, Brad Pitt, Jonnie Depp). Even Hemsworth is only huge when playing roles aimed at men like Thor or the new Hulk Hogan movie, whenever he's in a romantic lead role he's a fraction of his size in Thor. A big mistake most men make is not understanding that women appreciate different things to them. Going to the gym will make most men more attra…
/r/seduction05/08/24 11:23 PM
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If you're having problems stopping women who are walking I'd recommend not stopping women. I have far, far better reactions if I don't physically stop someone. Talking to women who are browsing in shops is particularly good for me. Regarding the opener I tend to open indirect too. It just feels a lot more natural to me.
/r/seduction04/08/24 07:21 PM
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Sometimes but I'm actually a bit like most women, I'm quite fickle and lose interest quickly too.
/r/seduction01/08/24 07:16 PM
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Women are really really fickle when they first start dating men. I've had women do this to me and then attempt to initiate contact with me months later. Women mainly act on their emotions de dating which are very volotile, they clearly regretted their decision having had time to think about it and want to try again. I don't think it's necessarily that they got a better offer in between it's just women's nature. They're not as desperate to get into relationships as men and are just naturally supe…
/r/seduction01/08/24 07:12 PM
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Essentially learning to behave in an attractive way. Its definitely something that can be learnt as I act very differently now from how I used to act but it can be challenging to learn not least because of all the contradicting PUA material out there. The other difficulty is that everyone really need advice thats specific to their own situation. Most of us are naturally attractive in some ways and unattractive in others. You have to learn to play to your strengths and try and correct your weakne…
/r/seduction31/07/24 05:16 PM
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doesn't have to do anything with you being black How can you say this having absolutely no idea of either situation, given that I gave no details. One of the girls was saying things to me like "I wish my friend Jenny was here, she'd like you shes really into black guys", she was letting me know that while she liked me I wasnt her type but I was her friend Jenny's type. Yet an hour later she left the bar with me. Considering your comment, you are literally saying the same thing as I said in the o…
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:28 PM
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One thing I would say is prepare to potentially be disappointed, a lot of these British party destinations have a poor male to female ratio. I Remember going to Ibiza as a young lad and packing a big pack of condoms as I thought it would be a shagathon only to bring the pack back home unopened.
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:22 PM
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There are 3 types of girls, yes girls who are really into you at first sight, no girls who wouldn't date you no matter what and maybe girls who are indifferent to you, so can be won over. For most guys most girls fall in to the maybe category which is why game works. Despite this even if a girl is a yes girl she still has expectations of you and its very possible to turn yes girls off which is why some really good looking guys struggle with women. Also it is sometimes possible to win over some n…
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:13 PM
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Some people are just hard work and generate constant drama. Whats likely is she intends to see you but something happened in her life that she considered more important and stood you up. Some people are extremely reliable and are on time and keep to plans. Other people are unreliable, always late, always canceling and it's never their fault, they've always got an excuse for some drama that happened that made them late etc. Just move on.
/r/seduction29/07/24 06:05 PM
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Maybe ask people who now you well to give some honest feedback about how you look and behave.
/r/seduction29/07/24 05:57 PM
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You can definitely improve, I know a couple of guys who are autistic who do very well with women now. It's a bit like the quote about insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. You don't seem to know what it's is you're doing wrong other than guessing you're being "creepy" and "inhuman", if you don't know what you're doing wrong how can you expect to improve it?
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:55 PM
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I think there's a few reasons. One reason to prefer indirect is congruence with your personality. Putting on an act isn't really a good idea in the long run, pretending you're a super bold guy who walks up to girls and directly expresses interest in them isn't good long term if you're not like that. The second is that it's more natural, this is how people normally meet. They start with small talk and realise they have something in common then express the desire to meet that person again. Third i…
/r/seduction29/07/24 12:08 PM
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I'm personally of the opinion that the narrative around direct daygame is a bit of a con that everyones bought into. Its similar to a lot of PUA narrative which trys to push a magic bullet, the narrative usually is that a certain method or structure is the only way to do things, and you have to do certain things in a particular order if you want women to be attracted to you. Its nonsense. I'm not saying that direct day game doesnt work, I've tried it and it most definitely can work. This whole n…
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:10 PM
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It's probably goes deeper than your appearance and is about what you think of yourself. One of the key elements of being an attractive man is confidence. Most people misunderstand what confidence actually is, it's not about being better than others but about being comfortable with who you are. So I think that's probably the root of the issue for you. Do you like who you are, do you think you're good enough just as you. If not than you need to practice appreciating yourself. When you catch yourse…
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:01 PM
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Truthfully this is the reality of daygame, it's happened to me before that a girl I spent an hour with on an instant date flaked when I tried to arrange a proper date yet another girl who I had a 3 minute conversation with was enthusiastic to go on a date. The truth is that it has as much to do with the girl and her situation as it does with your actions. You dont know if shes been pining after some other guy for months and he just got in touch, if a male model started messaging her on one of th…
/r/seduction24/07/24 02:46 PM
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This happens to me from time to time (mainly because I'm tall 6'3") but it happens to such few guys and the guys it does happen to it happens so infrequently that its barely worth considering. If your plan is for girls to approach you then you got no plan.
/r/seduction24/07/24 02:37 PM
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5-10% is a decent ratio, it's difficult to get much higher than that unless you only approach girls who give you IOIs, but unless you're particularly tall or handsome you're unlikely to get many. So just accept that you'll have to to talk to at least 10 girls before you find one who'll make out with you.
/r/seduction21/07/24 04:29 PM
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Recently I’ve gotten two different numbers There's your answer. A fairly large number of them don't go anywhere, particularly from cold approach so 2 is far too small a sample size. Get at least 10 numbers, if none of them reply then you have a problem. Some women not replying is unfortunately normal though.
/r/seduction16/07/24 12:22 PM
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Two tips. Practice at first in you're nearest city. Just jump on the train once a week. Once you've got over your initial nerves just open by asking a random harmless question. Try to pad out the question a little bit then transition into a conversation. By introducing yourself. Since pictures tell a thousand words here's an example https://youtu.be/5TSF71EfQl8?si=hDRTtvh_aYMODevQ
/r/seduction16/07/24 11:06 AM
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No one thinks looks dont matter, what people argue against is the incels who keep insisting that you need a certain mid face ratio etc. What you're describing is mostly about presenting yourself well which says alot about you. Being overweight suggests you're unhealthy and lazy, building some muscle indicates youre healthy and implies that you're motivated etc. Also having good style speaks volumes about the sort of person you are. Unless you've some sort of genetic deformity I dont think the lo…
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:25 PM
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Someone is standing in front of you who you know absolutely nothing about. Be Curious and get to know who they are. Where are they from, do they live here or just visiting, you can't date someone who just in town for the day and rarely visits. What stage are they at in their life, are they at uni, working etc. Where are they originally from, a person's culture will often influence them a lot and will frame what they value. Make observations based on how she answers they other questions about the…
/r/seduction13/07/24 11:36 PM
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What helps too is to phrase things as casually as possible to the point that if they say no it's no big deal. If you ask a guy friend to hang out and they're busy it's no big deal. It should feel the same when asking a girl out. Don't make it into a big deal unnecessarily.
/r/seduction09/07/24 02:29 PM
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No really, funny is more of a quality you look for in a friend. Think of the romantic lead in almost any movie, is he portrayed being funny? There are exceptions to this, people like Russle Brand but theyre mostly the exception.
/r/seduction03/07/24 06:37 PM
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Yeah youre right, the correct thing to do at a speed dating event is to mingle after and directly ask for a girls number. The forma are just silly, youve already spoken to them for 5 minutea so its easy to continue the conversation at the bar.
/r/seduction03/07/24 04:32 PM
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Height is undoubtedly an attractive quality but ita not the only thing that matters. If youre over 6 foot thats a major plus but if youre shorter you can make up for it by beibg attractive in other areas. Ive also seen really short men with very attractive women.
/r/seduction03/07/24 04:28 PM
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Be wary of trying to be the entertainer, seducing a woman is not the same as entertaining. If you've ever watched the show Friends think of Joey and Chandler. Chandler is very funny but his humor often repels women, he uses it as a mask to hide behind. Joey on the other hand is nowhere near as entertaining as Chandler, hes much more attractive though largely due to his confidence with women. He talks to womem like he expects them to be attracted to him. You dont want women to feel entertained by…
/r/seduction03/07/24 04:22 PM
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Dude half the guys here can't get dates and if they do they sure as hell aren't having sex in their car with them so you're doing fine there. I think you have to be mindful about over sharing too soon though. You shouldn't be giving a girl your medical history on your first date. And when you do bring it up for the first time after you've known them for a while just mention it in passing like it's no big deal and it's not something that bothers you.
/r/seduction30/06/24 04:35 PM
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To white women I am unfortunately seen as less than White women aren't a homogeneous whole they are individuals. Some white women won't like Indian guys but others most definitely will. But what almost all women dislike is men who lack confidence and are self pitying, it's really unattractive. So stop feeling sorry for yourself and put yourself out there to get what you want from life.
/r/seduction30/06/24 04:26 PM
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To some women yes you are but to others you're not. The trick is to filter out the ones who aren't interested and find the ones who are. This actually applies to all men just to varying degrees. No one is liked by all women, everyone gets rejected it's just that some guys get rejected more than others. You'll have to deal with rejection regardless so does it really matter if it's one in 3 women who are interested in you or one in ten. If it's 1 in 10 it just means you have to approach 3 times as…
/r/seduction30/06/24 04:15 PM
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It's not a "looks issue" it's a "you issue". You said yourself that when you act yourself people say you're "weird", that's not typical. I'm not sure what the solution is as I know nothing about you or how you behave other than it's "weird". But at least be honest about what the problem is so you can try to work on that.
/r/seduction29/06/24 12:47 AM
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The big problem is the quality of advice being offered which the mods can't really do anything about. People post asking for advice on meeting women only to be told to stop approaching women and go and get some hobbies.
/r/seduction27/06/24 09:04 PM
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Anything, ask when the next assignment is due. Once you've asked opening question introduce yourself. Say something like "I see you all the time but don't know your name, I'm John". Once you've broken the ice you can ask about where she's from, what she's studying etc
/r/seduction26/06/24 11:47 AM
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So why do people post here about not having any success after 1000 approaches? There are behaviours and characteristics that are almost universally repellant to women. People get into this community because they fall into this. Category. Some guys are too nice and get friend zoned all the time, some guys are socially awkward and can't even get friend zoned and other guys come on too strong and set off red flags with most girls. There are definitely things to learn for many guys.
/r/seduction17/06/24 12:43 PM
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If that were true we wouldn't have guys here complaining about approaching 1000 girls with no results. You have to be at a certain level before this works. Once you get to a certain level then it's just playing the numbers.
/r/seduction17/06/24 12:37 PM
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I'd do a combination of things. Since youre very introverted start with indirect day game and build up from there. Initially just start to have fairly innocent conversations with strangers and slowly build up to having a bit more intent. I always use Paul Janka as a good example of this style Paul Janka Live Pickup 3: never before seen footage (youtube.com) At the same time I'm recommend taking part in face to face activities. Social dancing is very good (Bachata and salsa etc) also language exc…
/r/seduction10/06/24 04:11 PM
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but in the end I only worked up the nerve to ask three women the time, Which is a perfectly good place to start from. Next time your goal should be to ask 4 women for the time. The key to this is having realistic expectations and trying to constantly make progress. Take a look at this video, hes just asking for directions but makes a solid number close. If you talk to enough girls you'll find ones that are very responsive to you. Paul Janka Live Pickup 3: never before seen footage (youtube.com)
/r/seduction10/06/24 04:06 PM
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I you're not seeing her face to face anymore then wait until she posts an instagram story, reply with a comment on the story, when she responds say something like we havent met in ages do you want to meet for coffee. If you still see her face to face find something specific she might like and invite her along. eg "theres a new exhibition on at xxx next week, I'm thinking of going do you want to come"
/r/seduction08/06/24 01:42 PM
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If you make a girl/woman feel good, laugh, there is no reason for her not to want to see you again. Things don't work like that in real life. There's no such thing as a solid guaranteed number. You can have a long deep conversation with a girl and she'll ghost you and you can have the shortest of conversation with ns and the girl will date you.
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:59 PM
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10 dates in 3000 approaches is a bad ratio but not getting anywhere with any of the 10 women you went on a date with should also be a wake up call. There's something about how you behave that's very unattractive. Those 10 girls found you at least physically attractive enough to go on a date with you. The set aside their free time, spent time putting on make up and some nice clothes for the date. They we're hoping things would go well with you, but then you behaved in a way to put them off. I'm n…
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:47 PM
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I've said this countless times and keep getting down voted, being muscular helps but not to the extent many men think. For most men your first 3 months of newbie gains in the gym will give you 90% of your benefit in terms of attraction. After that it's a case of diminishing returns and going to the gym for another 3 years to get the perfect body won't get you that much more attention from women in general (though some women will have a fetish for this look). It's a myth that the gym bros are kil…
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:31 AM
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Age is a big factor, people don't have the same social environments as they get older and there's probably not the same opportunity to approach you. Did these approaches happen in school and university?
/r/seduction31/05/24 10:44 AM
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Not sure why this was down voted, I was going to comment te same
/r/seduction27/05/24 10:20 AM
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Search in this sub for the escalation ladder.
/r/seduction24/05/24 10:50 AM
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I actually don't think this is a bad idea you just phrased it badly in the title. You're not talking about practicing game but practicing your social skills. It's actually a good idea to get into the habit of being more sociable with everyone you meet (not just at work). If you're an introvert you get into your own headspace a lot and find it hard to get out. The more you socialise the more you switch on the social part of your brain and talking to strangers becomes a lot easier.
/r/seduction23/05/24 06:32 PM
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There's very different types of seduction. Club game is a bit more primal, you say less and do more. I remember when I was heavily involved in the pick up community here in London about a decade ago there was a clear split between day gamers and night gamers without much overlap. Generally the better guys who had the most success did night game, mainly in clubs. Most of the day gamers seemed to struggle a lot and I regularly heard of guys talking about doing many hundreds of approaches without a…
/r/seduction23/05/24 05:50 PM
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Its not really a shadow ban, it just affects your ranking, you slip down the ranking so if Tinder is deciding which profiles to show to someone you'll be towards the bottom of the list of what they'll show. If a girl is super desperate and swipes through hundreds of guys she'll eventually see you if she runs out of better ranked guys.
/r/seduction23/05/24 02:41 PM
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Whenever im asked for my social media it's always something about my fits but i feel like doing it will also look kind of creepy as that's the way i feel whenever i get told that. Don't frame it about being about how she looks then. Talk to her a little bit and ask her out based on what she says that you like. Imagine she mentions that she likes the band Nirvana, say "I'll let you go now but I'll have to buy you a coffee some time as its not often I meet someone who shares my appreciation of 90'…
/r/seduction23/05/24 12:49 PM
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If you remove the rear seats there's also a lot of room to get comfortable together I bought a minivan and converted it into a camper! – journeyvision (wordpress.com)
/r/seduction23/05/24 12:40 PM
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I think something that people I'm the community struggle with is treating this like a science. There isn't necessarily always a right and a wrong. People are individuals and often very different which is why this is more of an art than a science. You have to fund what works best for you through trial and error
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:15 PM
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I think a reasonable success rate would be about 1 in 20 or so. Ignore all the black pill losers commenting, that's a reasonable rate to aim for if you're average looking, in good shape and well dressed and groomed. So volume is your friend, you can't do 4 or 5 approaches and expect results.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:07 PM
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Maybe, but you can walk up to a girl in a bar which is a socially acceptable place to talk to strangers and a safe place for her to be in and yet she can still tell you to F off. Maybe there's a reason for her reaction and maybe she would have said the same to him no matter the situation.
/r/seduction19/05/24 11:26 PM
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I'd forget about all that black pill stuff, I can almost guarantee that looks isn't your problem. Height is a hugely attractive quality for many women so pretty much regardless of your facial proportions you're attractive enough. I have to be honest though it sounds as though your personality is the issue, you describe yourself as nerdy and socially stunted. I've met guys who struggled with cold approach and did 1000 approaches with no results and it was usually a combination of their personalit…
/r/seduction19/05/24 03:09 PM
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No they won't, just look at the dating advice section of bodybuilding.com to see all the lonely gym bros. Being in good shape will help you but it's not the magic bullet. It's like saying all you have to do to pass your maths exams is buy a calculator, it's hard to pass the exams without a calculator but having a calculator won't help you if you didn't study for the exams.
/r/seduction18/05/24 09:45 AM
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5% is a decent success rate, that's 1 in 20 approaches. You can easily do 20 approaches in a few hours (a good percentage of those approaches are super quick as the girl won't even stop or will leave straight away etc). If you live in a high traffic area like a city you can easily see 20 very attractive women in an afternoon session. A few hours investment to get a date with a very attractive woman is a good use of your time.
/r/seduction18/05/24 09:41 AM
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Best opener is "Excuse me do you speak English" Do this until you find someone who does then just ask for directions. Then just say to them something like " your English is very good, did you live in the US". You've immediately moved to a real conversation about them.
/r/seduction16/05/24 01:28 PM
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Start with doing something, anything is better than just walking around for an hour not talking to anyone. I've been in the same situation walking around for hours not making a single approach, it's counter productive to aim for something too big for where you currently are. So start small, ask a couple of women for the time,then ask some women for directions then try for some other indirect ways of starting a conversation. When you're comfortable consistently starting innocent conversations wit…
/r/seduction15/05/24 11:13 PM
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I have to say its certainly more awkward asking someone's number over their instagram account. This has been the case for over a decade since Facebook took off. This is why a Facebook close was never considered as good as a number close. For a girl to give you her number there has to be a level of interest and commitment there, girls will give anyone their social media details. This is why I still think a number close is better, girls are more reluctant to give it but if they like you they will,…
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:38 PM
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Most women have some kind of side hustle or something they are promoting online... I'm sorry but this just isn't true. Social media isn't that important, I know plenty of young women who have no or a limited social media presence. Not every young woman wants to be an IG model. Also women don't necessarily expect men to have an account with lots of posts, a lot of guys aren't that into IG.
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:32 PM
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He has a week long vacation coming up, why stay home for a week when you can go somewhere different.
/r/seduction14/05/24 01:09 PM
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A cold approach is the very first step of this A journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step. This is why approaching is so important, if you're unable to take that first step you ain't going nowhere interesting.
/r/seduction14/05/24 08:50 AM
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The “cold approach” itself, even if you consider it to be seduction is an extremely tiny portion of the whole seduction process. It's a key part though, if you can't approach then you don't have any opportunity to seduce anyone. Approaching is a key hurdle for many guys. The issue with the type of approaching you're talking about is not the spam approaching itself but the fact that the guys doing it are so bad at seduction after the approach. Even with direct day game (which I'm actually not a f…
/r/seduction14/05/24 07:57 AM
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Saw your comment in the other post, I don't think you needed to post this to make the point, the Mod confirmed cold approaching is off topic. I do think he's confusing direct approaching with cold approaching in general. It seems that direct cold approaching is what they object to.
/r/seduction13/05/24 11:09 PM
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Do I need to keep playing it cool Yes, imagine if you made a new guy friend and he was just super keen on you and wanted to be with you all the time and was telling you how amazing you are etc... It would be a bit weird and put unnecessary pressure on the friendship. Now imagine you met another guy and he was just chill, didnt act like you're amazing but just seemed like he was comfortable spending time and hanging with you. Which sounds like the better friend to have?
/r/seduction13/05/24 07:26 PM
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Most guys will meet the minimum beauty standards for a sizeable percentage of the female population. I don't think it's looks holding most guys back, it's because they are weird, awkward or just extremely sexless and approach in a socially uncalibrated way.
/r/seduction13/05/24 07:19 PM
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Regardless of the value of that individual post I think the no talking about cold approach thing is a bit silly. Its like saying online dating is not seduction so noone is allowed to share advice on that either. Cold approaching is in and of itself very seductive, I've had girls literally melt the second they realised I was hitting I them. But beyond that seduction is an important component of successful cold approaching. It's very difficult to separate the two, imagine a post "best cold approac…
/r/seduction13/05/24 07:16 PM
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For video/audio, use a spy cam that you can disguise in a small handbag that you carry in your hand. Seems like a lot of effort, just use your phone. Download a background video app for free so you can turn the screen off and it'll still record, record using the front camera which noone would be suspicious of and put your phone in your breast pocket.
/r/seduction10/05/24 08:07 PM
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I remember reading once that 20% of Gen Zs identify as gay. So you're basically saying the only women who won't go on dates with you are lesbian 🤣🤣
/r/seduction10/05/24 07:47 PM
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I mean I’ve never heard of anything remotely that good Of course you haven't because it's BS.
/r/seduction10/05/24 07:18 PM
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If you're saying 80% of the women you approach through daygame end up on a date with you then respectfully you're talking out of your arse. Probably a good 50% of women you cold approach won't be available to anyone. They'll have a boyfriend, be married, be gay, be too busy with studies or work for a relationship, have too many dates lined up from OLD to consider anyone new. Then a percentage of women just wont find you attractive because you're not their type for various reasons. Then a percent…
/r/seduction10/05/24 06:29 PM
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You're overthinking things. When people nod at you just nod back without analysing why they're nodding. Same with smiling, when they smile just smile back.
/r/seduction10/05/24 12:12 PM
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I don't quite understand the negative comments here. The OP doesn't appear to go to this college as he's approaching on multiple campuses and 7 approaches in a single session isn't a huge amount. Colleges have thousands of students and the OP is approaching at multiple colleges so he's unlikely to be noticed by many women. Volume like this is the reality of cold approaching. You're lucky to get a date from 1 in 20 approaches so you have to do lots of approaches at a time like this. The only thin…
/r/seduction10/05/24 11:51 AM
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For example i like my company’s CEO as a person and talk with him 1 on 1, but after 20 minutes, when we meet randomly again in a corridor, i walk by him like he doesn’t exist, as i only seem to posess this direct 1 on 1 skill I understand what you're saying, you actually sound neuro divergent. The issue is you flip from being social to being antisocial. You just need to try and make a conscious effort to change your behaviour when you catch yourself being antisocial. So when you realised you wer…
/r/seduction09/05/24 10:31 PM
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I used to like James Tusk Tusk has terrible game, he's a good looking guy which wins him a lot of points but he behaves in a way that will put many girls off. It's his looks that compensate for his terrible game. He massively over compensates with the "I'm a bad boy player act". And it is an act, it's so obviously not genuine. Take a look at Paul Janka, these are old videos but he very obviously is a player. He doesn't try to act like he dates tons of girls when he's picking girls up. He does th…
/r/seduction09/05/24 05:26 PM
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There's nothing wrong with dating women much younger than you (I've done that) or dating women from poorer countries (done that too). The issue is viewing it from a power perspective. That's the bit that's sociopathic, it's generally healthier not to let any sort of dependency develop, it's healthy for you and her. Why would you want a woman financially dependent on you? You'd never really be sure if it's you or your money she's interested in.
/r/seduction09/05/24 05:17 PM
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Come on really? A girl having an hour or so to grab a coffee with you is one thing but unless you find a bored tourist most women will have things planned with their day. Getting a woman from the street in the daytime to your house is going to be a pretty rare occurrence when everything happens to line up perfectly.
/r/seduction09/05/24 02:38 PM
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I was dating a woman in her early 30s a few years ago and the first I heard about her husband was when we were lying in bed together the conversations went like this Her " You know you're the first man I've slept with since getting married" Me " really, have you only recently divorced " Her "no we're still together "
/r/seduction09/05/24 01:47 PM
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Why not just use the voice recorder on your phone if it's just for personal use? You're not recording a professional podcast.
/r/seduction08/05/24 11:18 PM
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For example if she has tattoos playfully tease her for being a wild girl or if she's from the countryside tease her for being naive and innocent. You have to be careful not to overdo it, just throw in the odd playful tease into your conversation.
/r/seduction08/05/24 06:25 PM
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You don't have to be sexual verbally in the sense of directly talking about sex, you just have to create sexual tension which is different. Pauses in conversation, teasing, eye contact, touch, compliments are all ways to do this. Playful teasing is probably the safest thing to start with
/r/seduction08/05/24 05:46 PM
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Are you getting anywhere physical with any of these girls? Normally you'd expect to sleep with a girl after going on "a good amount of dates", I appreciate that you and the girls are young but a lack of physicality after several dates is going to cause the girl to get bored.
/r/seduction08/05/24 05:41 PM
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If she insists on dinner tell her you'll cook for her instead.
/r/seduction08/05/24 01:37 PM
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Flip this around and imagine a woman posts in a female dating sub "woman with big tits walks into the bar and all the men gravitated towards her". Fair enough you can conclude having a big rack is beneficial to get men but you can't extrapolate from there that any woman with a flat chest will be repulsive to men. Pretty much any catwalk model can testify to the opposite. TLDR, you don't have to be a male model to get women but it can help
/r/seduction08/05/24 01:33 PM
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I don't understand all the negativity here. Universities and the surrounding areas are a great place to meet women. There's also lots of post grad students so it's not all 18 year olds. Campuses here in London seem to merge seamlessly with the surrounding public streets so it's not weird being there if you're a non-student.
/r/seduction07/05/24 09:02 PM
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Unfortunately, most of my sets didn’t go far. Either they’d eject due to either a.) fear of embarrassing themselves because of bad English or b.) good ‘ol fashioned shyness. I think the best way to open in a foreign country is "excuse me do you speak English". After that ask some random question like the way to the beach or whatever but then follow it with "Your English is really good, did you study overseas?" It's an easy way to get into a normal conversation that's very low pressure for her. O…
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:11 PM
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Rejection is part of the game, a good percentage of numbers don't go anywhere. You've got the number which is positive so keep it up. One thing to be mindful of though is your self esteem. You clearly don't feel worthy of these women so it's possible that you're sub communicating this
/r/seduction07/05/24 06:00 PM
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The big problem with it was that it was a bunch of incel geeks who taught themselves techniques to get laid. They over compensated in lots of ways, over analysed many things and came up with systems to make themselves less lame than they were before but still not one of the actual cool kids.
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:55 PM
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Yep, I honestly couldn't care less how many men my girlfriend has slept with, this isn't the 1800's
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:51 PM
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So are you going to grab her by the hair and drag her away? The point is to create the least resistance possible to get her number, you're a stranger she just met so you want to make it easy for her to comply. Once you have the number and are texting she won't remember about the coffee and you can just get her out for drinks or whatever else you want.
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:13 PM
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You don't have to have a long conversation but at least ask a little bit about her, ask her name, tell her yous and then give a reason why you want her number. Something like "I let you go now but you'll have to let me buy you a coffee another time as you're very friendly." It's more congruent if you give clear reasons for asking for her number.
/r/seduction07/05/24 09:42 AM
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I only went out once a week on the weekends, mostly with the intention of having fun and not really looking for anything. Ok, going out with your friends to clubs is fun to you but not everyone will be into that so it won't be "fun" for them. For some people going for a 2 hour walk through the city is fun, so day gaming will be more enjoyable for them. There's not one single answer for everyone. We all have different circumstances, like different types of girls etc. I personally like meeting gir…
/r/seduction06/05/24 10:01 PM
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Eye contact for me, I think I might have ADHD and rarely make eye contact when talking to people. Forcing myself to maintain strong eye contact was a game changer
/r/seduction06/05/24 08:56 PM
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Beyond the digits by Paul Janka is really good, it's a dvd series. What I really like about it is the simplicity, Janka predated The Game and Mystery Method so isn't contaminated by a lot of the ideas that came from that. He empathises very short interactions with women (about 2 mins long) that follow a fairly simple template without a lot of the mental masturbation that is common in the PUA community
/r/seduction06/05/24 06:41 PM
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Yeah, I try to fit in 2 daygame sessions a week or so. Approaches vary a lot, some days I'll approach 20 girls, other days I struggle to approach 3 girls in the same time period. I'm currently getting instadates at least once a week, but having issues escalating. On this I stopped trying for instant dates as it seemed like a waste of time. I could spend an hour on an instant date and the girl still flakes as much as a girl you had a 3 minute conversation with. A coffee shop during the days isn't…
/r/seduction06/05/24 06:03 PM
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that interest is no longer reciprocated (eg I give a compliment freely and get a response of thanks and a compliment in return. Now I just get a thanks) The first thing is not to seek validation, so don't look for a compliment in return or even an acknowledgement. Drop compliments into a conversation then say something else so she barely has time to realise you've complimented her. What attitude adjustments can one make to make interactions with strangers yield more positive responses? The secon…
/r/seduction05/05/24 08:09 AM
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do they like lgbtq people, Are you gay, lesbian, trans? If you are then this will definitely affect the answer so probably need to indicate this are they dtf or wanting a serious mono relationship, You're overthinking, get into a conversation with someone first and then maybe in a date and only then worry about this. have no idea how to go from normal chat, to asking out, to sex (or even chatiing to sex) Again overthinking. Worry about this one step at a time, sounds like you're not even startin…
/r/seduction04/05/24 12:55 PM
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I know so many people who have periods of detoxing from social media and delete or suspend their account, not being on social media at any given moment in time is perfectly acceptable.
/r/seduction03/05/24 07:56 PM
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I think the mistake you're making is thinking that you have to say something funny. Just say that you don't like Instagram which is a reasonable thing to say. I think guys fall into the trap when talking to women of thinking that every word out of their mouth has to be entertaining. Not everything should, you're allowed to be serious and even a bit boring at some points in a conversation. It's perfectly normal for conversations to have highs and lows.
/r/seduction03/05/24 11:27 AM
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or those that can change the topic seamlessly It's easier than you think. One easy transition is to say something like "you're very friendly, what's your name". You've then switched from whatever you opened with and can move the conversation wherever you want.
/r/seduction01/05/24 04:40 PM
1

Yep, I doubt women are having the same concerns about their padded bras.
/r/seduction01/05/24 02:48 PM
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People obsess far too much about the opener, it doesn't really matter if the first words out of your mouth are direct or indirect. The opener is a tiny part of the interaction, how you act after you open is far more important. Here's an example of Paul Janka opening indirect a girl walking down the street with a guy, he amogs the guy and gets the girls number in front of him. That's some top tier game yet he opened indirect. https://youtu.be/BFJbZuIGLzQ?si=OihSL5VIJapnsJYQ
/r/seduction01/05/24 01:13 PM
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I would consider anything that prospects a woman's interest as an "approach" Yep the example he gave of the art gallery is still a cold approach it's just an indirect approach. The mistake of the OP is making Assumptions from inexperience. Indirect and direct approaches work equally well, you have to try both to understand this. Many direct approaches don't go well and you'll get blown out a lot but on the flip side a lot of them go well even if the woman isn't interested in you she'll often be …
/r/seduction01/05/24 07:47 AM
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Sure, I match with people on Tinder, Bumble, you name it, but the whole texting game drains me. Either pay a professional to do it (look on fiver or Google tinder management service) or use an LLM (id recommend Claude over the free Chat GPT). These aren't perfect solutions but it's better than just neglecting your matches.
/r/seduction29/04/24 11:11 PM
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They're not, I remember looking at marriage stats a few years back and 5% of black men are married outside their race in the US while in the UK it's 50% with the majority being with white women. They're still dragging around the social baggage of slavery and segregation over there, something we never had to deal with here in Europe
/r/seduction25/04/24 02:04 PM
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A shit test isn't a test even in short term relationships. It's just the woman being moody about something, not to test you but because that's how her emotions behave. If you're in a short term relationship you can ignore a woman's emotional outbursts but it doesn't work as well in the long run as her emotional outbursts could be about something that needs to be resolved.
/r/seduction25/04/24 12:27 PM
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I very much doubt this is the issue. European women aren't anywhere near as racist as Americans and I doubt they'd have an issue with how much a guy they meet on a foreign trip earns. They'll likely never see him again so it'll just be a fling. I think the most likely issue is that there's a bit of a culture clash. Northern European women are more reserved than people from Latin countries
/r/seduction25/04/24 12:22 PM
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Jesus dude, just say I never want to see you again and block her phone number. That's actually a lot kinder than this evil shit you're plotting.
/r/seduction22/04/24 11:28 PM
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You have to try and cultivate a mischievous mindset to break out of this "nice guy" mindset you're currently in. The root of this is how you view yourself and what you're core values are which is being perceived as "nice" by everyone. So start developing mischievous thoughts, you don't have to be an arsehole just mischievous. Think to yourself about the naughty things you want to do with the girl just before you talk to her. Try and embrace the sexual part of yourself rather than repressing it a…
/r/seduction22/04/24 11:25 PM
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Flip "approaching" around and call it "socialising". So socialise more, this includes starting conversations with men and older women too. Chat to people at the bus stop, coffee shop, the person sitting next to you on the park bench etc. Just socialise which obviously is a legitimate thing to do and when socialising with women you're attracted to flirt with them if it seems appropriate.
/r/seduction22/04/24 09:47 PM
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Yep, you need high volume to make cold approach work. Approaching about 1 girl a month over a 4 year period just won't get you anywhere unless you get lucky. You really need to approach 10-20 a week to get respectable results.
/r/seduction21/04/24 08:10 AM
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but never want to be the one risking rejection or shouldering the burden of making plans Because they don't have to. An attractive woman gets so much interest from men (particularly if she uses dating apps) why bother. If you had dozens of women itching to get you into bed I very much doubt you'd bother with approaching strangers. You'd just choose the best out of the ones chasing you.
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:35 PM
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I don't think you'll achieve much by just looking at people as they walk past. Just talk to someone, if it's difficult at first just ask for directions or the time until it gets easier.
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:28 PM
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30 is probably the age when you have the most options as a man, it's your peak. Women of almost all ages are attracted to you.
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:29 PM
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I'll give you the same advice I give to everyone here over and over again. Take small baby steps each day until you get to where you want to be. Similar with the gym you wouldn't just walk-in on your first day and start benching 100kg, you start small and gradually increase the weight and you'd have some sort of written plan of progressing to more weight. So do the same, step one might be as simple as asking someone for the time on your way to the gym or school. Step 2 might be making a comment …
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:23 PM
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My advice would be to do this with people who are stationary and just ask them sometimes. A good place to start is to go to department stores and just ask the women on the makeup counters a question. So just do the same, make eye contact, smile and ask where the men's section is. Repeat in different shops and then maybe move onto doing the same with women outside shops so maybe if they're waiting for a bus ask if this is the bus stop to wherever. But remember to make eye contact and smile. It's …
/r/seduction20/04/24 02:05 PM
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You know nothing about her so ask questions or make statements/assumptions to get to know something about her. Just make a guess about where you think she's from based on her accent . If you're both in London and she's from Rome make another assumption "Rome must be very different from London". Or alternatively make an assumption about why she's here "so did you move her to study" If you make statements and assumptions it feels less like an interview for her and the reasons why you made those as…
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:30 PM
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Just approach indirectly in shops and malls if you're worried. You can't get banned from asking someone a question. There are several Paul Janka videos on YouTube which demonstrate how to do this with day game, he's just asking for directions or making observations or even opening by talking about the weather.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:21 PM
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You're talking like it's something women would object to. I've only ever met one woman who didn't like it and she had a whole host of mental health issues which probably explains why. TLDR, you don't have to ask
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:13 PM
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I’ve had trouble with dating for as long as I can remember.......... Is there a way to become an expert with all Types of women? If that's where you currently lower your goal and focus. Before you can become an expert you have to become at least mildly competent at first. Focus on just getting a few dates before worrying about becoming an expert.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:10 PM
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So,long story short,I met a woman through an app And there in lies the root of the problem. Women who are actively on apps are victims to the paradox of choice, they have so many options they can't choose one. Luckily only a minority of women are actively on dating apps so if you meet women via other avenues there's more chance they'll be keepers.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:05 PM
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For most people going to the gym is maybe a part of the solution but it's not the whole solution. Just head over to the dating advice section on bodybuilding.com to read about all the lonely single gym bros
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:43 PM
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it might sometimes be better to suggest a group outing with her and her friends This is terrible advice. I've been here before when a girl suddenly brought a friend to a first date. It's impossible for the two of you to really connect like this and it's almost impossible for attraction to develop. Plus you have two girls you need to impress as the first words out of her mouth as soon as you leave are "so what did you think of him" Or maybe, just have a longer and more solid conversation in the i…
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:36 PM
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I can't bring myself to imagine the other person feels comfortable That's precisely the point. Attraction is a mix of comfort and anxiety. If you ever go on a date with a girl and she says there was no chemistry or spark chances are all you did was make her feel comfortable. You want to make her feel a little anxious and uncomfortable to the point where she has butterflies in her stomach. That's attraction.
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:25 PM
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Are you American by any chance? Most of the world isn't that racist towards black people. Whenever I've been to a predominantly white country or area in Europe I get much more attention than I do at home. Places like Eastern Europe and Scandinavia love black guys.
/r/seduction15/04/24 07:21 PM
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For me, and I believe for most other guys(?), there's no such thing as a friendzone. If she's hot enough, you'd do her. There clearly is such a thing for guys because if she wasn't hot you wouldn't do her so you'd friend zone her. This is effectively what's happening when women do the same to you, you're not hot enough! But it's not just that you're not physically hot enough but also your behaviour isn't hot enough. Act like an attractive man and if she finds you physically attractive enough and…
/r/seduction10/04/24 11:15 PM
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You don't have the practice your social skills on the pretty girls you can practice with anyone. Your biggest problem at the moment is just talking so talk with people you're not attracted to. Practice just starting conversations with anyone. If you're in a store ask a woman with some fruit in her basket where the fruit aisle is. If you're in a library ask an old lady if the library opens at weekends. Ask some random guy in the street if there are any decent bars in the area. Talk to everyone yo…
/r/seduction10/04/24 10:54 PM
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Surprisingly any emotions seem to work. Even if you piss a girl off she'll be more attracted to you when she calms down. If she's feeling a mix of emotions around you she'll more often than not be more attracted to you. Not advising you to be mean but those are the facts. If you're really nice and boring and she feels no strong emotions she'll say there's no spark.
/r/seduction10/04/24 01:42 PM
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The easiest thing is to stop talking. You can't be a good guy or goofy if you stop talking so just shut your mouth and lead physically. So for example if the two of you are walking talking just stop , take her hand , look into her eye , brush her hair away from her face, look at her for a moment then kiss her.
/r/seduction10/04/24 01:36 PM
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Todd V has a good beginner guide for getting over approach anxiety https://youtu.be/2bQjfTHlwzU?si=l00hp5h37qFt5v9U I'd also recommend Paul Janka on youtube who did indirect daygame which is easier for beginners
/r/seduction10/04/24 01:32 PM
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Don't look into their eyes, choose a point on their face and focus on that. If you're looking at their forehead or the bridge of the nose they won't really notice the difference as it'll seem like you're looking at their eyes
/r/seduction10/04/24 01:28 PM
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It is true, I've noticed this myself with women. Basically people just don't appreciate what they have and what comes easily to them. It's not just with relationships, people are generally like this.
/r/seduction08/04/24 07:36 PM
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There's loads of ways. In a grocery store if she picks up something just say " is that any good I've never tried that before" Another common one is to mistake her for someone you know " excuse me do you go to xyz gym" Or you can just cold read her and say something like " excuse me are from xyz" Or the old fall back just ask for directions Search for Paul Janka on YouTube there are some old videos of him, he used to do the directions approach a lot for daygame
/r/seduction07/04/24 06:09 PM
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Try approaching more girls but approach them indirectly so that you're not overly committing. I noticed that sometimes a girl who I think is super hot from a distance doesn't interest me when I start talking to her, also the opposite is true, some times I approach a girl just for the hell of it as she's ok looking but when I start talking to her I'm very attracted. The benefit of an indirect approach in these situations is that it gives you the space to decide if you like her or not and you can …
/r/seduction07/04/24 05:32 PM
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If a girl likes you she likes you, it's as simple as that. He shows enough of his personality here for a girl to make a decision about whether he's the type of guy she'd like to date. He's quite direct, bold and confident, lots of girls will find that attractive and if they're open to meeting someone new they'll reply to the text. If you read Janka's books his whole mindset was about volume. Doing multiple short approaches and letting the averages work for you.
/r/seduction07/04/24 11:45 AM
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Maybe you just need more things in your life. Has pickup been your main hobby in the last 6 months or is it one of many things you do? I get a bit obsessive with things where I'm just interested in that one thing until I just burn out with it. It's healthier to have multiple things in your life that you're interested in.
/r/seduction07/04/24 11:35 AM
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This approach can work really well, the only issue the OP has is that he needs to be a bit more bold. He could have asked for the girls number in the first clip, she was pretty engaged in the conversation and was interested in him asking where he was from etc. This clip shows Paul Janka doing the same type of approach with a lot more boldness and gets the girls number in 1.5 minutes. Janka used to exclusively approach indirect, mostly asking for directions. https://youtu.be/XwG3ybov9Jg?si=T6_1v7…
/r/seduction07/04/24 10:58 AM
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It does start a conversation but it doesn't hook them onto me I'd recommend hooking them into themselves not you. So turn the conversation to be about "them" which is a subject they're enthusiastic about. So depending on how they answer openers like this make an assumption about what that says about the type of person they are and steer the conversation towards that. They'll invest in the conversation more and by virtue invest in you more.
/r/seduction06/04/24 10:04 AM
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Well done with sticking with this, I actually think indirect openers like this still have a place today depending on the circumstances. The trick with indirect openers generally though is to move away from the opener as quickly as possible into a normal conversation. So try not to spend 20 minutes talking about the opener, at the first chance change the subject and just forget about the topic you opened with.
/r/seduction05/04/24 07:20 PM
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Surely i am horny all the damn time, but it's mostly a me and my hedonistic desire to feel pleasure and to dance with someone, not really a connection type of guy... My advice is to be very honest about this with women. I think there's a tendency for people with ASPD to lie and manipulate to get what they want but you can get the same thing by being honest and it'll cause you a lot less stress in the long run, you won't have to waste energy masking and pretending you want a relationship with the…
/r/seduction05/04/24 10:47 AM
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This is fairly normal. People change their minds, so she replied to your first text then just changed her mind for whatever reason. Women are very fickle when they first start seeing men and can drop off at any point.
/r/seduction03/04/24 05:39 PM
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Go to a park, say to random girl "excuse me, I'm a street photographer, I love your look and would love to take your photo."
/r/seduction03/04/24 05:31 PM
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Difficult to say without more detail. How many approaches have you done? This is largely a numbers game if you only approach one or two girls a week it'll take months to get a date. How many numbers have you got. If you're approaching in volume then it's something about what you're presenting to the women. You say you dress well so it then comes down to your personality. You sound a bit desperate and needy, maybe that's being projected when you talk to these women. But it could be a ton of other…
/r/seduction03/04/24 12:58 AM
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What was your close rate roughly when you asked for their number and what is it now you give them yours? Interested if this is worth trying as I always assumed they'll never call.
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:34 PM
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How often though, I've never tried giving my number I've always asked for theirs. What's the percentage of women who are likely to call after taking your number?
/r/seduction02/04/24 12:32 PM
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It's your hesitancy that's the issue, 90% of women with headphones stop for me, I'll usually approach them as they're waking towards me rather than the jumping in front of them from behind London daygame thing. I usually wear headphones too and take mine off as I go to talk to them and they mirror me and take theirs out. A good way to practice stopping girls is to just go out and ask for directions, you'll be less apprehensive about stopping the girls as you have a legitimate reason to do so and…
/r/seduction31/03/24 12:14 PM
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Depends a lot on your location. In big cities it's 25-35 as cities are full of young people who have traveled from other locations and don't have a social circle and want to meet new people. In smaller towns it tends to be older ie 40+ as it's full of people who are divorced, don't have a social circle anymore so they want to meet new people.
/r/seduction31/03/24 12:07 PM
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Not just tattoos but I think it's generally better to be polarising. It's better that some girls love you and some girls hate you then for all girl to just like you.
/r/seduction26/03/24 06:49 PM
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Headphones aren't an issue, I usually wear them myself and take them off as I speak to her and she'll usually mirror me and do the same. I don't think I've once approached a girl who didn't take out her ear phones as soon as we started talking.
/r/seduction26/03/24 06:41 PM
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As many unattractive women wear headphones and most young men wear headphones. Not everything is about pickup, young people just like listening to music
/r/seduction26/03/24 06:38 PM
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A lot of them use Meta Ray-Ban sunglasses which have a camera built in.
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:08 AM
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He is not tall, you can see in the video he's only a couple of inches taller than most of the girls he's talking to. He's average height maybe 5'9" or so.
/r/seduction25/03/24 11:52 PM
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A good opener is to ask about their outfit if cosplaying. Just say "excuse me. is that xxx you're dressed as". Doesn't matter if you guess correctly, if you guessed wrong they'll correct you and you can say, "I haven't seen that show is it any good". If you guessed right you can comment on the character, maybe say why you like or don't like the character. You can have fairly brief conversations with girls, a few minutes long and just say "can I get your insta/number as I've enjoyed talking to yo…
/r/seduction25/03/24 02:20 PM
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A lot of the time the difference between a 7 and an 8 is imagined and in your head. A girl who's a 7 one week becomes an 8 the next because she has a nicer dress or better makeup or maybe she looses a bit of weight over a few months. If it's the same girl and the difference between them is in your head then maybe you're the issue. Do you behave differently with a girl you perceive to be an 8 or 9? My advice would be to record an audio of your approaches on your phone and compare how you talk to …
/r/seduction25/03/24 02:09 PM
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I've genuinely found no real difference. I'm very tall, 6'3" so that may colour my experience but I'm surprised that most women no matter how attractive they are are similarly easy/hard to date. I've had women who are models and many men would consider 10s take a liking to me instantly and ive had really average looking women reject me off the bat. I think the difference between a 7 and a 10 is largely in your head and is to a degree subjective. A girl who you'd consider a 7 one day could be a 1…
/r/seduction24/03/24 11:33 AM
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There's an element of luck in this too which you have to factor in. Rejection is just a fact of life with this, you'll get more rejections than successes and they won't be evenly spread so you can have a period of lots of success followed by lots of rejections but the stats even out over time. You're mixing up date rejections and approach rejections which makes it harder to give advice. 20 approach rejections in a row really isn't a lot, if you consider that 50% of women probably are already see…
/r/seduction24/03/24 11:02 AM
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If done with sufficient social intelligence then just saying "how are you doing" or " how's your night going" is all you need to do. If you approach her when she's not engaged with her friends like if she's at the bar waiting to order a drink or even just standing next to her friends looking around the club this is a perfectly acceptable thing to do.
/r/seduction23/03/24 08:25 PM
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Hug when you first meet, when you enter the venue touch her shoulder and let her go in ahead of you. When talking make socially appropriate touches to empathize a point when talking (to her arm ect. If you need to leave the table to go to the bathroom or whatever touch her hand briefly and say "I'll be back in a sec". When you leave the venue touch her back again and guide her through the door ahead of you. When you're both outside take her hand and hold it as you walk to wherever you're about t…
/r/seduction23/03/24 05:35 PM
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I think this is highly dependent on where you live and work. If you live or work in the centre of a large city you'll probably meet enough attractive women going about your daily routine. Realistically you have to approach 20-30 girls to get one on to a date with you, even when you're good at this cold approaching whether day game or night game is about decent volume. If you live in the suburbs and work remotely you're unlikely to meet that many women going about your daily routine. Another issu…
/r/seduction23/03/24 05:24 PM
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This is true but the escalation can be more gradual, ie over a period of weeks, if you're meeting her on a regular basis. Familiarity is a significant component in attraction and making your move when she's more familiar with you can be an advantage.
/r/seduction23/03/24 05:12 PM
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For every 1 guy who fucks the girls who friend zoned him 20 guys are still in the zone patiently waiting.
/r/seduction21/03/24 06:43 PM
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What I like to do is take both her hands while talking to her and move closer to narrow the proximity. Then stop talking and brush her hair away from her face. This gives her an indication that you're about to kiss her and she has the opportunity to pull away then and no one loses face or get embarrassed. If she doesn't pull away at this point it's pretty much guaranteed she won't pull away if you try to kiss her. If she did pull away when you touched her hair it's not a big deal and haven't cau…
/r/seduction21/03/24 01:09 AM
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I said I didn't read all of it. I started reading it then gave up then commented on what I'd read so far. It's 2000 words long! I've read the whole of long Reddit posts before because they drew me in. This didn't, it started saying things I fundamentally disagree with at the beginning. Yes you need to build comfort and rapport, but a lack of these isn't causing there not to be a spark. Women have said to me there's no spark before and that's something else entirely.
/r/seduction20/03/24 09:56 AM
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You should try to avoid questions and make statements instead. When you do this the conversation flows more and feels less like an interview For example rather than saying "where are you from" you can make a statement "You're not from London are you, I can hear an accent". If she then tells you she's from Taiwan you can say something like " I imagine Taiwan is very different from London", which prompts her to talk about where she's from and how it's different. You can then expand on this and say…
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:00 AM
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OK, it probably needed a TLDR at the beginning and a different title then. People used to refer to building attraction as breaking rapport not building it
/r/seduction19/03/24 11:16 PM
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Just glanced through this as it's so long but I think you're wrong here. When a woman says there's no spark it's not because they don't feel comfortable around you or they don't feel rapport. A woman will feel comfort and rapport with her close guy friends but she probably doesn't want to sleep with them. If there's no spark it's because there's no flirting and no sexuality between the two of you. You have to actually do things that will make her feel a little uncomfortable and make her heart ra…
/r/seduction19/03/24 08:45 PM
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Unless you live in an all white town in 1950's Alabama being a 6'4" black guy is not a negative. Women generally love tall men and different women have different racial preferences so if you talk to enough women you'll find the ones who like you. If you have this mindset though maybe try something social fist before cold approaching. Salsa and Bachata dancing is a good way to meet women socially, you're guaranteed to meet women who will take an interest in you which will hopefully improve your c…
/r/seduction19/03/24 08:36 PM
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Yeah just move around. If it's a big enough mall it's unlikely she'll see you again and if she does for all she knows you're just talking to a friend. One thing I'd say though is that the thing the other comments aren't really indicating is that volume is key when cold approaching. It's nice in theory to go about your day and just approach the odd special girl you see. Unfortunately that's unlikely to give you the volume you need to be dating regularly. If you approach a couple of girls a week i…
/r/seduction19/03/24 05:48 PM
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I'm in my late 40s, I still can't get my head around why but women in their 20s still like me a lot. Mainly date women in their 20s.
/r/seduction18/03/24 09:07 PM
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Focus the conversation on her, try to take her to different places and talk about how things felt. Saying to a girl about her home city "I imagine that must have been a wonderful place to grow up" takes her back to her childhood and how she felt growing up there. "Wonderful" is an emotive word If she's just moved to your city saying "it must have been exciting moving to the big city" is emotive language, "exciting" is emotional . On the flip side saying "why did you decide to move here" is just …
/r/seduction18/03/24 09:03 PM
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I think your primary objective should be to get numbers and the secondary objective is to try and pull a girl quickly if the opportunity arrives. If she doesn't want to go with you ask for her number and move onto talking to more girls. Yes most numbers flake so just focus on getting more numbers to compensate. Have a fairly brief interaction with a girl then ask for her number. Spending a large percentage of the night with a single girl who may not go home with you and who you may never see aga…
/r/seduction17/03/24 04:21 PM
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You'd expect to get at least a couple of dates after asking out 66 women. Two things I'd recommend. First look at your appearance. If you're just dressing for comfort then there's probably room for improvement. Fashionbeans is a great fashion blog I'd recommend for tips though there are lots of other resources. Second next time you ask a girl out make a voice recording of it on your phone. What you say isn't that important as long as it flows and there's not too many pauses etc. But pay attentio…
/r/seduction17/03/24 04:12 PM
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He's only approached 66 women in 4 years, I'd say the opposite is true, he needs to try and approach more often. 100 in a week is a bit of an extreme jump though.
/r/seduction17/03/24 03:49 PM
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Is this based on your actual experience or what you've read in this sub. I'm gonna call this out as I think there's a tendency in this sub to parrot the same mantras over and over even if it's untrue. I've gotten numbers from clubs and then been on dates with the women. Lots of my friends have done the same too. It's a fairly easy thing to do, numbers from clubs do flake a lot but you account for that with volume. If you go out with the intention of getting 5 to 10 numbers, which is doable if yo…
/r/seduction17/03/24 08:47 AM
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Shops are good. Certain clothing shops attract different age ranges. Go to one that serves the age range you like and talk to women when they're browsing. Also supermarkets/grocery stores have lots of single older women.
/r/seduction17/03/24 08:19 AM
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the girl was freaked out as i tried to stop her and talk. I've said this before but I don't understand how we got to a point where beginners think that stopping a moving girl is an integral part of seduction. You can talk to stationary girls. it works just as well, despite what all the coaches say there's no magic effect from stopping a moving girl. So just talk to girls who aren't in a rush to get somewhere. Go to a mall, a park, a museum , a Library, the grocery store and you'll see plenty of …
/r/seduction16/03/24 07:17 PM
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Come up with a generic line that's unique to you and just stick to that or at least use it to fall back on if nothing obvious comes to mind. If it's a unique line it doesn't matter if you've used it on 500 other women it'll be the first time she's heard it. Ultimately the opener doesn't matter that much, you should be transitioning away from your opener into a regular conversation as quickly as possible. The less energy you have to expend on thinking of a unique opener the more you have left to …
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:47 PM
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I don't think living with your parents is that much of an issue but if you do just frame it to your advantage. Presumably girls understand he doesn't have his own place because he's following his dreams even though it's not well paid. If you live with your parents just give it a positive frame. Say you've moved back with them temporarily so you can save on rent to get a deposit to buy a house or to save for capital to start a new business.
/r/seduction16/03/24 03:58 PM
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I can read. It's not nightmare difficulty, it's harder but not impossibly so. All it means is that you'll have to deal with some women using it as an excuse to not pursue things but it's unlikely to be that many. It also depends a lot on the women you're going for. If you're dating women in their early 20s I don't think it'll hurt your chances at all as they're likely in the same situation. If you want to date a career minded woman in her 30s than maybe it'll be a bit more of an issue. It is abo…
/r/seduction16/03/24 11:51 AM
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Sorry but this advice is BS. One of the issues people in this sub have is viewing everything in terms of black and white. If anything is less than ideal then of course no woman would have a relationship etc. Does living with your parents make things harder? Yes, particularly logistically. But does it mean no woman will want to date you? Of course not. If a woman is attracted to you then living with your parents is a minor negative point for many women. For some it's a deal breaker but by no mean…
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:51 AM
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I actually find the front of the car much easier than the back. Push the passenger seat all the way back then pull the quick release leaver to make the backrest completely recline. Also just offering her a ride home is the easiest way to get her to your car.
/r/seduction15/03/24 02:28 PM
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Lots more people in Taiwan speak English than in Japan and Korea, it's quite common for younger educated people. That's probably a big advantage. Also Taiwanese women are typically very attractive.
/r/seduction15/03/24 12:25 PM
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Rather than speculating on Reddit try it yourself if you're struggling with women. Record your voice on your phone when talking to girls and see how you sound. Are you really supplicating, are you really monotonous and boring or are you cool. I've done this and noticed I was really nervous sounding sometimes and really high pitched and approval seeking others. Correcting how I speak has made a huge difference to me.
/r/seduction14/03/24 12:39 PM
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The words clearly don't matter because fairly stupid inarticulate people can have amazing success with women yet intelligent articulate men can be terrible. Think of Joey and Chandler in Friends. Joey isn't very intelligent and doesn't say anything particularly profound when talking to women but he's very confident and socially aware and he puts women at ease. Chandler on the other hand is extremely intelligent, articulate and funny but he's also very insecure with women. As such he just repels …
/r/seduction14/03/24 11:58 AM
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Yeah it's normal. It's only by doing it more that it'll become easier, you have to desensitise yourself to it. The easiest way to do this is to open in a way where you can exit quickly shortly after without losing face. So just open women indirectly, have a brief conversation and then leave. Do it consistently, do it often and the nerves will start to go. When you feel the nerves have gone you're ready to start making your interactions more meaningful and to show more intent and to try to close.
/r/seduction14/03/24 11:45 AM
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I usually open with, "Excuse me can I tell/ask you something". Women usually say sure but sometimes they'll say sorry I'm in a rush or just plain ignore me. I guess that's consent if they say sure but I mainly do it as a pre opener so that they're focused on talking to me before I start.
/r/seduction14/03/24 11:37 AM
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I've been working on my social skills by just saying hello to random women and having a friendly chat Since you're already doing this try and expand on it. Start by trying to make the chat a bit less friendly. Guys often adopt a high pitched supplicating tone when talking to women so try to slow your speaking down and keep your voice low. It makes you seem more confident and makes the conversation a bit more sensual. Added to this keep good eye contact, smile and try to close after you've been s…
/r/seduction13/03/24 09:41 PM
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College campuses can be good, there's usually quite a high density of attractive women. Libraries can also be good, certain grocery stores can be good.
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:34 PM
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You probably need more volume with daygame. Realistically you'll have to approach about 25 women to get a date and maybe about 50 to get one to sleep with you. If you've only ever approached 50 it's understandable you haven't got a date yet as some of your early approaches were probably awkward etc. Try increasing the volume and decreasing the amount of time you spend with each girl. If you do this approaching 25 - 50 women a week isn't too difficult and over time you'll get 1 or 2 dates a week.…
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:22 PM
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Go on a dating app, they're made for women as there's about 6 times as many men as women. If you really don't want to do that just ask a guy for help with something. Whenever you see a stranger you like ask him for help. In a supermarket ask him to get something from the top shelf. If you're in a mall ask for directions to a particular shop. When he's helped you just make an observation (maybe guess his accent or what fragrance he's wearing) and see where the conversation goes. At the end smile,…
/r/seduction13/03/24 08:14 PM
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More likely it's a couple of 13 year olds who found some photos of a hottie on Google and are pranking random men
/r/seduction12/03/24 10:17 PM
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When you approach girls smile, have good eye contact and keep the interaction brief. A few minutes of conversation is all you need before asking for a number, you can try to not be dull for 3 minutes. On dates go somewhere where there's an activity which takes the pressure off of you to be entertaining. Just going to the zoo or a museum or a dance class, anything like that
/r/seduction12/03/24 09:04 AM
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honestly I feel like my dream girl would be the typa chick who’s perusing books at Barnes n nobles or something, maybe I should approach there. Definitely. People in the seduction community aren't very imaginative and when something works they convince themselves it's the only way to meet girls. You don't have to just stop women in the street, just go to a book store or library and chat to women there. A slightly more indirect approach would work better there like maybe telling her she looks int…
/r/seduction12/03/24 08:56 AM
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I don't think that "good morning" is the difficulty it's what comes next. When you initiate the conversation there's a lot of pressure on you to carry it. I think that's where a lot of approach anxiety comes from, not just the fear of rejection but the fear of making a fool of yourself.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:38 PM
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That doesn't solve the problem because if you're one of the better ones and a "winner" by definition there will be losers. So for every man who wins 5 or 6 are losing. Additionally because so few women are on these apps clearly there's a majority of the female population who prefer not to use them. So if all men refuse to try and meet women in real life how are those women supposed to meet a man?
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:18 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Since there are 6 or 7 times as many men as women on these apps, it's clear that there aren't enough women to go around on them. So what are the men who aren't getting any success supposed to do.
/r/seduction11/03/24 05:08 PM
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I'm very aware that the women on the apps want to date but if there are dozens of better looking men also trying to get her attention then that's not really going to help you much. Some men do incredibly well on these apps but most men get zero dates from months of effort. What are they supposed to do, live a loveless life? Humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years before these apps appeared. Meeting women in real life was a perfectly accepted option for most of human existence yet sudde…
/r/seduction11/03/24 04:40 PM
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I think the difficulty for many is starting conversations with strangers. Many guys can't start a random conversation with a guy at a bar. Even if they can it'd rarely be more than a few words.
/r/seduction11/03/24 04:35 PM
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The ratio of men to women on dating apps is as high as 7 to 1. For many men it's just not a winning strategy, they're just bad odds.
/r/seduction11/03/24 04:31 PM
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If you decided to start lifting weights you wouldn't try to bench press 100kg your first time at the gym. If you did you'd just be setting yourself up for failure. Same with approaching. Try to work out what sort of action you 100% could take today, start from there and slowly work your way up to where you want to be. If all you can do now is ask for directions and then leave straight away then start there. If you asked those 6 girls you saw for directions at least it's some progress, as opposed…
/r/seduction11/03/24 03:58 PM
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Smile and talk slowly and softly. It put people at ease. Your dress and grooming can also do the same, if you're dressed like a biker with a bushy beard it's more intimidating than if you're wearing a casual suit and clean shaven.
/r/seduction11/03/24 11:54 AM
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Yeah, I think he's making the mistake of thinking that things that come easily to him will come easily to the OP. That's why people turn to this sub because they don't know how to make a woman feel the right things inside. Hell, they don't even know what they want a girl to feel inside let alone how to achieve it.
/r/seduction11/03/24 10:32 AM
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Not at all. I don't understand where the myth that you can't ask for numbers in night game came from. You can and it works as well as asking for numbers in daygame. I've done it, I know lots of friends who do it all the time with really good success. A lot of the time the girl doesn't want to leave her friend alone and go off with some random guy that night. I know you're joking about your race but it's best to just avoid the subject. Don't create the frame that you're an Asian guy chasing a whi…
/r/seduction11/03/24 08:29 AM
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Take a voice recording of yourself next time you go out to meet women. How you talk is so much more important than what you say in setting a sensual vibe. You can be talking about the weather but if you have the right tone to the conversation it can be seductive. So listen back to your recording and see how you sound. If you sound monotonous and boring or if you sound high pitched and supplicating try to correct it. Another thing is that interactions don't have to be super long, sometimes the mo…
/r/seduction11/03/24 12:27 AM
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I'm not Indian but I do indirect approaches a lot and I'd imagine that's a safer option in a more conservative country like India. If you want to ease yourself into it just ask for advice or an innocent question initially. I'd avoid doing the street stop that you see on YouTube and just talk to women in places where they aren't moving like in a mall, coffee shop or library. The advantage of indirect openers is that there's plausible deniability. You can see how the girl reacts after you've opene…
/r/seduction10/03/24 07:50 PM
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I think it depends a lot on your personality. Daygame is much easier if you're naturally introverted. I think Daygame is also better as you get older, being the oldest guy in the club isn't always a great look. Daygame rejections are also a lot less brutal. Women will politely reject you in the day while lots of women will be quite rude in order to stop you bothering them in a bar or club .
/r/seduction10/03/24 09:27 AM
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At a minimum when you feel the need to eject try to close. Just say something like "I should get back to my friends but you should let me take you out for a drink some time because I've enjoyed talking to you" Just get into the habit of closing. As a side note I don't think it's sensible to make comments about race. You're a human being, she's a human being and that's enough. Don't try to empathise the differences between the two of you, it makes you seem insecure.
/r/seduction09/03/24 01:10 PM
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Yeah, I remember being with a girl I was seeing and she was trying to make me jealous by looking at her online dating app in front of me. As soon as she logged in she was getting message after message from guys. Lots of these guys were attractive yet she said she didn't see anyone she was interested in despite constantly complaining to me that she wanted a steady boyfriend. The big problem is that they're overwhelmed with choice on these apps and sites. Hundreds of lem are expressing interest in…
/r/seduction09/03/24 01:32 AM
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You need to be a bit more specific for better advice. How many numbers have you gotten in total? If it's less than 10 then this is normal, only about 1 in 4 or 5 numbers that you get will usually lead to a date so you may not have a big enough sample size yet to draw conclusions. If you're got dozens of numbers and none of them led to a date then something is wrong. One of the other comments listed some of the things you could be doing wrong. There are things you can do to improve your close rat…
/r/seduction09/03/24 01:10 AM
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No it's not, it's probably easier, women are very defensive in a nightclub and they'll be very harsh to make guys they're not attracted to stop bothering them. I think this is mainly good advice for you though I would start with indirect day game. Don't even try getting a girls number until you feel yourself starting to heal a bit. So start pleasant conversations with random women. If you do this consistently over a few months you'll slowly rewire your brain to accept that women enjoy talking to…
/r/seduction09/03/24 12:54 AM
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There are things you can do to improve your consistency like warming up and visualisation. Warming up usually entails doing something that's much easier than your normal approaches that get you into a more social mood. Visualisations literally entail imagining yourself approaching and the conversations you'll have, maybe visualise a couple of rejections too to desensitise yourself to it.
/r/seduction07/03/24 06:35 PM
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I think the real key to not being a nice guy is to try and change your mindset. Try and get yourself into a mischievous mindset. Think about the times in your life you were doing something maybe you shouldn't have and you had a little smile to yourself that you were doing something a bit naughty. That's the mindset you want to get into, once you do, things like purposely misinterpreting what she says come easily and will come across more naturally.
/r/seduction07/03/24 06:28 PM
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Unless it's a really shit job don't try to seduce women at work if you're a bit "aspy". Practice outside of work where there are no consequences if you fuck things up.
/r/seduction07/03/24 06:20 PM
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Think about when you were a little kid and you went up to another kid in a playground and said "do you want to play with me". You didn't have any inhibition, you weren't self conscious you just saw another kid and wanted to play with them. It's similar with a natural, they see a woman and effectively just ask if they want to play with them. They don't have the same self consciousness or self doubt that most men have.
/r/seduction07/03/24 07:24 AM
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The best opener when traveling is "excuse me do you speak English" Then ask a question, advice about the local area, directions whatever. Then follow it up with. "Your English is very good, where did you learn" Easiest way to start conversations. Set yourself a target for each day like talk to 5 women or try to get one number. Make up your own plan you think you can reasonably stick to and try to push yourself a bit each day.
/r/seduction06/03/24 05:45 PM
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Depends on the situation, some situations are just not appropriate for a direct "approach" and require more subtle flirting. This is particularly true in situations where your reputation matters, you can't just do dozens of direct approaches in your work canteen or at a friend's house party.
/r/seduction05/03/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah, this post is BS. It's just not true that the gym bros are the biggest players. Getting in shape will give you a bit of a boost but there's so many other things at play.
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:44 PM
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Eye contact, smiling and voice tonality are the most obvious ones. When you're trying to seduce a woman you voice doesn't have the same tone as when you're talking to your little cousin or niece. You don't smile the same way or look at them the same way either. Other things help too like switching your gaze between her eyes and lips, proximity and also touching in a socially appropriate way during conversation
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:40 PM
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You've hit the nail on the head. Nice guys are boring and don't really stir up any emotions. This is what women mean when they say there was no spark, they just didn't feel anything emotionally, they felt how they would around their brother or uncle. You don't have to be an arsehole but you do need to elicit some sort of emotional response in a girl.
/r/seduction05/03/24 07:36 PM
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There you have your answer then. Most of the black Pill guys fall into this trap. They have really poor social skills and rather than own this they invent theories about how women only like men with particular facial structures etc. Understand what's holding you back and work on that.
/r/seduction04/03/24 11:51 AM
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Shy girls are an absolute nightmare to seduce. It's an uphill struggle. They respond so badly to hints that you will have to rely on verbalising things more. So say things like can I hold your hand when you're walking together because if you just take it she could get nervous and just pull her hand away. The key is patience though because it takes longer for them to feel comfortable with things than a regular girl.
/r/seduction04/03/24 11:08 AM
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Looks aren't the only thing that's contributing to you getting rejected. If girls are approaching you in clubs and you're getting 15-20 matches online a week you're attractive. You're not getting rejected so much because of your looks so focus other parts of your game. It's probably your confidence that's an issue but it could be a number of other things, do you have issues with eye contact, do you have a monotonous voice tone, are you low key depressed all the time. Tons of things other than yo…
/r/seduction04/03/24 10:59 AM
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If you're interested in Gen Zs that's how kids dress now. Their parents wear skinny jeans so they've rebelled against it. I've started wearing wide leg trousers recently as they're in fashion.
/r/seduction03/03/24 08:24 PM
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I did a bit of daygame today and wore an outfit very similar to this, slim fit suit with a white t-shirt and trainers (sneakers). https://mensflair.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/suit-with-t-shirt-outfit-11.jpg I have quite a keen interest in fashion and put thought into how I dress when I go out. I got quite a few women looking at me as I walked past them today which is usual for me.
/r/seduction03/03/24 08:22 PM
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The best way to improve your "vibe" when talking to women is to approach more women. What I noticed was that just approaching regularly and consistently made me more social generally and more relaxed when talking to women I cold approached. I'd recommend approaching women for the sake of approaching women, not with the intention of dating them, for a few months. Have a plan, write it down and stick to it. I'd recommend indirect approaches because you're free to exit each interaction whenever you…
/r/seduction02/03/24 04:50 AM
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The easiest way to reduce/eliminate approach anxiety is by exposure to approaching. The easiest way to expose yourself to approaching is to start small with really easy really short indirect approaches and over time gradually make your approaches harder and longer.
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:26 AM
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Your words are a tiny part of what she will judge you on. What's far more important is everything that you're sub communicating. So smile, be playful, be relaxed and have fun. Show a little curiosity in her and maybe have a little fun by trying to cold read things about her like the type of person she is, what music she likes, even guessing her star sign. Your emotions will transfer onto her so if you're playful, relaxed and having fun she'll start to relax and have fun too.
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:19 AM
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This is the worst advice I've read here. Please everyone strive to come across as a normal human being and not someone on the spectrum.
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:13 AM
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I think it's similar to weight training. If you don't go to the gym for a year or so you'll lose most but not all of your gains. If you go back after a year you're noticeably smaller and weaker but you'll get back to the same size and weight faster than you did first time around. It's called muscle memory. It's similar with approach anxiety, you are set back but you'll get back to your old self quicker than it initially took you to get there. You're just reactivating pathways that already exist …
/r/seduction02/03/24 12:10 AM
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Plus not all women want all of the things listed. I'm 6'3" and I've had women tell me that I'm too tall for them. Lots of women don't want to date a white guy despite what the incels think. Lots of women aren't the least bit impressed by wealth. Not everyone has the same sense of humour so the funny part is objective.
/r/seduction29/02/24 11:36 PM
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You have to start at a level that's comfortable for you and slowly move forward. Going up to a.girl and saying she's cute might be a bit too much for you at the moment if you've only done it once in 2 months and you ran away after. I'd recommend starting with some sort of indirect approach because it's easier to do and easier to walk away from immediately if your anxiety is too high. So start with doing 5 indirect openers a session. A good one to start with is the familiarity opener. So "excuse …
/r/seduction28/02/24 10:10 PM
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YouTubers I like the most are Honest Signalz Austen summers Coach Kyle Jack Denmo
/r/seduction27/02/24 11:29 PM
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He strikes me as a bit of a narcissist, he's constantly bad mouthing other dating coaches and telling everyone how amazing he is. He friends with YouTuber playing with fire who claims he has one of the best real life game he's seen. Personally though I'm just not interested in him due to his personality, seduction is very personal to the individual, there's lots of ways to achieve the same results. I'd sooner learn from someone who's values are closer to my own as they'll teach stuff that's more…
/r/seduction27/02/24 11:01 PM
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My favourite at the moment is "excuse me, do you work at ...." It's an indirect opener that's very easy to transition from into a regular conversation. A lot of girls realise that you're hitting on them from the start but there's an element of plausible deniability. It takes a lot of pressure off of you when opening because it's indirect which means it's easier to open which means you'll open more often.
/r/seduction27/02/24 03:21 PM
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Yeah of course, you're not going to please everyone. My advice is more for when it constantly happens to you.
/r/seduction26/02/24 11:15 PM
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Then be playful, purposely misinterpret what she says, find something to tease her about etc. make it fun and try to create some sort of tension. A conversation where you just say "wow that's amazing" to everything she says is forgettable.
/r/seduction26/02/24 11:13 PM
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What you're experiencing is actually a type of approach anxiety where you're able to approach but you leave straight after. The trick is actually to relax in the situation, what you say actually doesn't matter it's how you say it that's important. You just need to keep approaching and this anxiety will slowly go away. As to what to say, literally anything as long as you're calm and relaxed. Make a few assumptions about her like guessing where she's from or what she does, ask what she's up to tod…
/r/seduction26/02/24 10:13 PM
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This sounds to me like trolling. You just happened to get jacked and rich in your 20th year on this planet and you open girls by talking about Clash of Clans?
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:28 PM
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Even "respectfully" telling a woman that you want to sleep with her is a really bad idea during a day game approach if you value your liberty. A friend of mine was a big fan of Mode One which is why I read it. It worked well for him but he did it with night game. Clubs are a far more sexually charged environment, everyone is drinking and you can get away with more outrageous behaviour.
/r/seduction26/02/24 02:18 PM
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I first read Mode One over a decade ago, this is a direct quote from the book Now some people would argue that introducing the idea of having sex with a woman in your very first conversation with her is “socially inappropriate,” or at minimum, representative of “bad manners.”They would contend that this type of conversational behavior is not representative of a true “gentleman.”I DISAGREE.
/r/seduction26/02/24 01:19 PM
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Literally he says that if you want to sleep with a woman you tell her that when you first meet her. Going up to random women and telling them you want to sleep with them will get you arrested for harassment here in the UK.
/r/seduction26/02/24 12:32 PM
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That shit will get you arrested in this post MeToo world 😂
/r/seduction26/02/24 11:40 AM
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It's really hard to say what the issue could be from what you've said. It's usually either your dress sense, body shape or behaviour (what some people call vibe) that puts women off. Your description of what you wear sounds fine, you say your in shape so maybe it's your behaviour. My advice would be to make an audio recording of your interactions on your phone and listen back to them and see if you can identify a problem. Lots of guys speed up and their voice goes up a pitch when talking to girl…
/r/seduction26/02/24 10:24 AM
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I've found numbers from clubs to be similarly flakey as numbers from daygame. Not every girl wants to go home with a guy that night, particularly if she is with friends so numbers can work.
/r/seduction26/02/24 09:52 AM
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I actually disagree with this. It's clearly not easy to hit on women anywhere for most men as you can see reading this sub. If you've been practicing Yoga for a while and enjoy it and are struggling to meet women then becoming an instructor is worth trying. It's unlikely to be your full time job but teaching a class one or two nights a week can be beneficial. I do Latin dance as a hobby and most of the instructors do it part time one or two nights a week on top of their normal day job. I conside…
/r/seduction26/02/24 05:16 AM
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If the only thing you can think of that's changed is the time of day then the obvious thing is to start approaching at the same time of day again and see if this helps. I'd also recommend changing how you approach too. Rather than stopping girls in the street trying talking to stationary girls or girls who are strolling casually. It could be that people are in a rush walking down the street during the day. Try parks, people often stand around or just stroll there. Shops are also good, if you go …
/r/seduction25/02/24 05:07 PM
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Looks aren't the only drivers of attraction, it's a combination of looks and personality. This is even true for men, even though we're more looks driven. I'm just not interested in a super hot woman if she has a disagreeable personality, it's just a turn off for me
/r/seduction25/02/24 04:41 PM
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That's nonsense. Women usually say this when they've dated you as a way to say they don't want to see you again. Women don't date men they find repulsive. It's essentially about your behaviour and the amount of connection she feels with you.
/r/seduction25/02/24 04:18 PM
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The obvious thing to try first is on line dating, if that works for you that's the easiest route to meeting women. If you want to cold approach and are struggling with approach anxiety then try indirect approaching. Given how strict Dubai can be about social interactions indirect seems safer to me than being too direct anyway. Day game is great when you're in your 40s as you probably dont want to be out clubbing. A good day game opener is to mistake her identity. For example just say something l…
/r/seduction25/02/24 03:59 PM
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Make good eye contact, challenge her, tease her in a good nature's way, touch her in a socially appropriate way and throw in the odd compliment. You're probably not doing most of these at the moment which is why the conversation is friendly.
/r/seduction25/02/24 03:46 PM
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Ive had the "no spark/chemistry" comment after a date before and it's basically that's you're too nice which isn't very exciting. The two things to fix this are to escalate physically on a date, search for physical escalation ladder on Google or in this sub. The second thing is to not be so agreeable. Don't just agree with everything she says challenge her a bit, disagree with her if she has a view you don't completely accept. Also tease her a bit in a fun way.
/r/seduction25/02/24 03:41 PM
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Clubs are a very good place to cold approach, this is nonsense.
/r/seduction20/02/24 11:18 PM
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Take notes. I do Latin dance as a hobbie and can never remember girls names as I meet so many in a night so I have a notes app in my phone where I write down their name and description as soon as I finish talking to them. Then next time I see the girl across the room I look up her name then go over to her and say "Hi Jenny...."
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:39 AM
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It's because of anxiety, people often mention approach anxiety but even after the approach the anxiety can still be there. When you talk to unattractive women there's no anxiety. I think for a lot of guys rather than learning "game" they just need to learn how to relax. Being relaxed is actually very attractive.
/r/seduction19/02/24 11:34 AM
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This is a seduction sub, the whole point is you have to seduce the girl. Asking her name and what she does for a living, or what she studies, and then saying that you want her number, isn’t seduction I'm going to strongly disagree with this. Just saying "Hello" can be seduction. It's not necessarily about what you say but how you behave, we sub communicate so much about ourselves in a 3 minute interaction that many women can know if they're attracted to you in that time.
/r/seduction18/02/24 08:47 PM
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Assumption openers are good, even if they are wrong it doesn't really matter. Like "Excuse me did you used to study at UCL" or "Excuse me are you Swedish". Literally anything, it's just an excuse to start a conversation
/r/seduction16/02/24 07:24 PM
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That kind of kills the mood don't you think. "Do you mind if I touch you briefly on the arm to empathise a point and create rapport"? That's the whole idea of an escalation of touch, you touch in a safe way first to gauge consent and slowly become more intimate if the woman is comfortable
/r/seduction16/02/24 08:01 AM
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I hate to say it but it’s the world we live in. It's the country you live in, here in Europe people aren't anywhere near as obsessed with race and race makes less of a difference.
/r/seduction16/02/24 12:02 AM
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I think the key to it is to get into a playful slightly mischievous mood, it sets more of a seductive tone. Tease her a bit, smile, throw in a little mischievous grin, make good eye contact. Additionally use a physical escalation ladder so touch her in a socially appropriate way first and if she's comfortable with you touching her arm to empathise a point , do the same but touch her hand, then later let your hand linger, try to create close proximity, lean in when you talk to whisper in her ear,…
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:15 PM
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I think you're actually over thinking this. You don't have to start talking to her with a big movie moment gesture. If the group all live in the same building as you just start friendly conversation with them. Maybe start by just smiling and saying saying "Hi" a couple of times as you pass them then just think of a friendly excuse to talk to them. Ask a question like do you know if the mail has been delivered to the building yet today. Then when they answer say "I'm John by the way, I see you gu…
/r/seduction14/02/24 11:43 AM
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Yep, just be friendly just engage in very brief small talk with people. One tip with classes and clubs is to always turn up first, get there 15 - 20 mins early, someone else is always early too then you just say "hi, looks like we're early" or something lame like that just to start building familiarity and get into the habit of talking
/r/seduction14/02/24 07:31 AM
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I assume you're talking about a bar or club due to worrying about others seeing, I would start by having chats with girls that have absolutely no intention of going anywhere. If your AA is super bad start super simple. When you're out just ask girls you like where the cloak room is, or if they have the time etc. just get into the habit of talking to girls you like and slowly make the conversations longer.
/r/seduction13/02/24 05:58 PM
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Is it weird? Yes it is, we have to be honest about this. If you're going about your daily life, happen to see a girl who you really like and then Start a conversation and pay her a compliment that's obviously not weird. But if that's what you do then the chances of getting any success is pretty low. So instead guys walk the streets, looking for girls and run up and stopping dozens of girls at a time telling them all the same line, "I just saw you and thought you look cute etc..." That is weird, …
/r/seduction13/02/24 01:37 PM
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I think it's two things fear of rejection and a misunderstanding of what women want. The type of guy who hesitant to make a move is generally a nice guy. He's been told that women don't like strangers acting inappropriately towards them so he thinks that acting like a gentleman (ie not really making a move) is what women want. The reason some guys go too far in the other direction is a lack of empathy. They don't really understand how female sexuality works and assume it's very similar to how th…
/r/seduction12/02/24 10:48 PM
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Try indirect, people obsess too much about the opener, it really isn't that important. As long as you start a conversation and at some point in the conversation make it clear you're interested in her it doesn't matter how you opened. Start by practicing having friendly indirect conversations, just as for directions and slowly try and have a brief conversation before you leave. When you're comfortable doing this and it feels easy you can try different indirect openers and start showing more inten…
/r/seduction12/02/24 10:14 PM
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Instead, they will indirectly communicate with you that they are not interested, hoping that you take a hint. This is actually hard to tell a lot of the time. Some women who seem like they're not interested actually are because they're just really shy or really conservative or lacking in social skills themselves and you might think they're not interested when they actually are. Sometimes you don't know until you ask for their number and see if they reply to your texts.
/r/seduction12/02/24 03:10 PM
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The difference is that the instructors are in a position of authority which adds attraction. They typically have thousands of followers on Instagram, mainly their students, and get women sliding into their DMs all the time.
/r/seduction10/02/24 09:10 AM
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As an experiment ask Google Gemini, Bing chat or ChatGPT to reply for you. Sending something is better than nothing. Give it a go for a week and see what happens it might even inspire you to start texting if you feel you want to change some of its replies. Yes I got this idea from South Park
/r/seduction09/02/24 10:43 PM
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I do Latin dance as a hobbie and the dance instructors get laid a lot, similar concept I suppose
/r/seduction09/02/24 10:05 PM
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This is a very good point, I'm 6'3 and it's hard to create intimacy when standing I usually tell girls that we should sit down so we're not so far away from one another! I get a lot of attention for my height but I've also had women tell me I'm too tall for them. People all have different preferences
/r/seduction09/02/24 01:22 PM
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The easiest to do is just to ask for help or directions then transition into a conversation with an observation like guessing where she's from by her accent. Even if she's local purposely guess wrong then you can tease her that she doesn't sound local etc. A better opener is to say "excuse me, you look familiar do you go to/work at/ study at _____" this is better as it's more conversational from the start so is easier to transition into a conversation . From there have a friendly playful convers…
/r/seduction08/02/24 02:39 PM
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The number of times I've been out with guys and they find excuse after excuse to not approach a girl. The girl not being hot enough is a common one. As a beginner just approach every girl you see within a specific age range and body type. So if you like women 25-35 who aren't overweight just approach every woman who roughly matches that description, you won't know how interesting they are until you approach them. When your diary is full of women you're dating then you can start being more picky.
/r/seduction07/02/24 10:21 PM
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If you see her every day smile and say hi to her each day, just create a natural familiarity between the two of you.. Then after a few days say "Hi, I see you every day, what's your name."
/r/seduction07/02/24 12:29 PM
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Harassment can be one time, it's not untrue most of the UK based daygamers took all of their infield videos down after a UK based daygamer was arrested and charged several years ago, I think he may even have been convicted, I'll Google it. Edit: yep he got 2 years jail time, here's the link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50137960
/r/seduction07/02/24 11:41 AM
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If he really wants to continue with cold approaching then maybe he needs to move towards indirect approaches. Direct daygame if very effective but it's a bit of an unnatural way of approaching, the whole point is that you're creating this unreal "movie" moment. Indirect is actually how people would naturally start a conversation with strangers, you see it all the time if your waiting for a bus and train and the old woman next to you starts talking about the weather or whatever. An old woman at a…
/r/seduction07/02/24 10:56 AM
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Not necessarily, people have different tolerances to things. There are some people who you could slap on the arm in a friendly way and they'd start complaining you'd assaulted them, I know people like this. Some people are just hysterical and prone to seeing things as more of a threat then they are. It's particularly true if they've experienced past trauma, a woman who's been assaulted by a stranger in the past isn't going to be thrilled by a guy telling her she's cute.
/r/seduction07/02/24 10:50 AM
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Because the "Problems" Neil Straus described in the book are the sort of problems many men would die to have. Particularly young men, they're not put off by the emptiness of it. I'm guessing it sounds a lot more fulfilling to them than video game and pornhub which is what their social life mainly consists of.
/r/seduction06/02/24 09:08 PM
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Yes, I dated a woman like this a few years ago. I remember it took about an hour for her to get undressed the first time we slept together. Every time I tried to take off part of her clothing her hands would clamp over them. I think it was just shyness. In the end I stopped trying to undress her and undressed myself. After an hour or lying kissing a naked man she eventually undressed too. It was only like that the first time though, once she got past the first time she was fine every time after …
/r/seduction05/02/24 04:50 PM
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Yep, or I love how assertive you are. I love your energy. Etc
/r/seduction04/02/24 07:55 PM
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Yep, the first conversation. There's lots of safe ways of flirting. Smiling, good eye contact and non physical compliments are an example.
/r/seduction04/02/24 06:36 PM
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Yes and no. It's actually a bit harder now as women have more options to proactively meet men online. The chances of meeting an attractive woman who hasn't been able to have sex for months is lower now as if a girl is getting horny she can go on an app and get a date in a few minutes. Cold approaching is still and advantage to have though as most men are left fighting over the scraps online.
/r/seduction04/02/24 02:05 PM
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Start by flirting with people who aren't already your friends. It can be very weird for friends if their friend suddenly starts flirting with them. That's why it's better to set the tone of relationships from the start. So flirt with people early in a relationship and do it in situations where there will be no consequences for you, this is why cold approaching is good for complete beginners
/r/seduction04/02/24 02:01 PM
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You can say anything, just say something like "you look like you're having fun, what's your name" then take her hand and say "come and dance with me". Dance floor game is quite a bold type of game, you can't really do it in an indirect way.
/r/seduction01/02/24 12:41 PM
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Just look at a girl, when she notices you looking at her smile. They'll often look away, sometimes smile back but they're aware of you now and they've had a bit of time to consider you so if you go to take their hand to dance with them it won't be a complete shock
/r/seduction01/02/24 12:33 PM
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Don't hover around girls on the dance floor hoping something will happen. You either have to catch a girls eye then take her by the hand to dance or alternatively talk to her on the dance floor, so touch her arm and say something into her ear then take her hand to dance with you.
/r/seduction01/02/24 12:05 PM
1

I heard people are usually less receptible than at night Definitely not the case, you'll get lots of rejection with say game but the same is true in night clubs, I actually think women can be more brutal rejecting you in the night. If you have bad approach anxiety start by approaching indirectly. A good tactic is to ask girls if they know the area very well and if they know if there are any decent cafes nearby. It's a fairly low commitment way to start a conversation but its quite open and fairl…
/r/seduction01/02/24 04:10 AM
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An easy hack is to try and smile when talking to women. There's a strong link between physical actions and your emotional state and smiling will change your emotional mood. Flirting is supposed to be fun, not serious and analytical, have a fun light conversation and you're half way there. So smile, have fun and find things to laugh about.
/r/seduction01/02/24 01:17 AM
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Where did you get that 10% number from, that is pretty low. A decent number to dates ratio is 20-25%. 90-95% of women who give you their number not going on a date with you is really high
/r/seduction31/01/24 07:55 PM
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5% of phone numbers you get leading to a date? That's really low
/r/seduction31/01/24 12:09 AM
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I was joking, I don't think anyone uses that line anymore 😂
/r/seduction30/01/24 09:25 PM
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Or she changed her mind, cold approach is a numbers game, at least half the numbers will lead to ghosting and only about 25% will actually end up going on a date with you.
/r/seduction30/01/24 09:20 PM
4

I never really found instant dates to be that beneficial. They look much more impressive than getting a phone number if you're filming a YouTube video but I didn't find girls were necessarily more likely to see me again after. While you go on the hour long instant date you could have gotten another 4 or 5 numbers (one or two of which would lead to a proper date) while the girl from the instant date could flake.
/r/seduction30/01/24 09:14 PM
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You can always replace "infusion collection" with something of your choice. It's just a framework he's presenting
/r/seduction30/01/24 08:14 PM
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This is actually spot on and the exact advice women always give men ie be yourself and be confident. Anxiety is the embodiment of low confidence and the reason guys put on an act and aren't themselves is because of deep rooted insecurities that tell them that their true self is not good enough.
/r/seduction30/01/24 08:06 PM
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Eye contact was mine too, I just didn't realise how important eye contact is most of my life. For some reason I don't naturally make eye contact when talking to people which really affects your ability to connect with people. I now make a conscious effort to make good eye contact when talking to women and the difference it makes is huge
/r/seduction29/01/24 09:54 PM
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Make an observation about her to transition to a conversation. My go to is to just guess where she's from based on her accent. But you can comment on anything like ask her if she's always so cheerful or is she just in a good mood today.
/r/seduction29/01/24 08:26 PM
1

Who lies more men or women
/r/seduction29/01/24 08:19 PM
5

Yep been there too. It also works the other way around too. I've met guys who have nothing at all going for them in their lives (dead end job, living in bedsit etc) but have zero problems attracting women.
/r/seduction29/01/24 04:39 PM
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I wouldn't be discouraged by this. 4% is a decent number considering you're new to this. What I would advise is making the interactions shorter and see if it affects your close rate. That way you're investing less to approach the 25 girls you need to to get a date. If you keep each interaction brief you can approach 25 girls in a couple of hours. I think you have to treat daygame as a bit of a sales funnel. The girls you initially meet are at the top of the funnel and you should invest the least…
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:52 PM
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Really 50% of the women you approach go on a date with you. That seems ridiculously high, the chances of any given woman either being in a relationship, being too busy to date or just not logistically being able to date you because they live too far away must be at least 50%
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:42 PM
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Sorry but I think this is BS advice for most men. It's perfectly possible to have every area of your life sorted and still have no success with women. Even when women are actively expressing interest in you they will still expect the guy to progress things. Women will lay it on a plate for you but they'll expect you to know how to dish it up so you need to understand things like flirting and actually putting yourself on the line and taking the risk with sexual escalation. It's much easier to get…
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:39 PM
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I think the best advice is to ease yourself into it. Start by just having very brief conversations and gradually over a period of time have longer conversations. Eg just say to a girl after a class "when did they say the assignment is due" then when she answers just say thanks. If you know the conversation will be brief you won't feel the pressure to carry the conversation. Have plenty of meaningless conversations like this until these meaningless conversations cause you no anxiety. Then slowly …
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:28 PM
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Universities are good. Aside from the usual 18-21 year olds there's lots of post graduate students in their mid to late 20s
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:21 PM
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The mistake I think you're making is putting too much empathis on the opener. It really doesn't matter what you say, your goal is to move on from the opener as quickly as possible into a regular conversation. Doesn't matter if you open direct or indirect, if you ask for directions or something else the openers purpose is to start an interaction. Even if asking for directions you don't have to act like a don't know anything tourist. You can create whatever frame you want, you can ask with a slow …
/r/seduction29/01/24 01:55 PM
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My point is that this post is pretty useless and sounds more like an advertisement than anything. What's the point of posting about this (allegedly) really cool thing you know but can't tell anyone? And if you are paying a few grand for some canned lines more fool you.
/r/seduction27/01/24 10:49 AM
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Day game actually works well when you're older. You just have to find out what works best for you, it also doesn't have to be in the street, you can do it in parks, museums, shops, cafes, anywhere there's people. Just start conversations with women, be charming, keep the conversations fairly short (a few minutes) then say you enjoyed talking to them and you'd like to see them again. You'll get a mixture of responses but it never ceased to amaze me when a girl half my age responds well and is obv…
/r/seduction27/01/24 12:54 AM
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So we just have to accept that there's magic secret lines and routines and if we pay mystery and Beckster a bunch of money we'll be able to effectively get girls too?
/r/seduction27/01/24 12:35 AM
0

Can you give us examples of that they asked you to do and how the girls responded.
/r/seduction26/01/24 04:36 PM
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Change your approach and open indirect. I think that's the best strategy in small environments like this where you have to worry about your reputation. If you're near the library for example ask something simple like what time the library closes today. Then segue into a conversation by making an assumption like what she's studying etc. A large part of seduction is about what you sub communicate, even if you're just asking an innocent question if you have good body language, eye contact , voice t…
/r/seduction26/01/24 01:26 AM
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Brutal but true. Backing off is actually also the better long term strategy. Numerous times women have suddenly started to show interest in me months after I backed of after their rejection.
/r/seduction21/01/24 02:29 AM
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I think this is a mentality that carries over from childhood for a lot of men. When you're a child you're encouraged to be a nice little boy and you'll get your mother's approval and maybe a chocolate for being a good boy. Many men carry this mentality over to adulthood and think that if they're nice and agreeable they'll get a reward (ie sex instead of a chocolate) from women. But deep down most women don't want a nice controllable little boy they want a man who's his own person and who can pro…
/r/seduction26/12/23 11:35 AM
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How is being able to impress other men a fertility cue?
/r/seduction02/11/23 08:11 PM
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I think that second one is the issue. Far too many people in this community care far too much about impressing other men than they do about having enjoyable relationships with women.
/r/seduction01/11/23 07:52 PM
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