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2

This exactly. I have dated a manwhore before, he was, quite predictably, a cheater. 'Too perfect' is a red flag all on its own, crazy high body count just seals the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:46 AM
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What percentage is that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:10 AM
1

If literally everything is the same including the personality, I'll take the shorter one. Height isn't a big thing for me(I'm only 5'3), and resumably he has less opportunities (so you tell us) so maybe he'll appreciate me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:16 AM
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Nah, she needs to be doing it for sure. Only 3 nights a week? That's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:11 AM
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Would depend on his age I guess, but I'd be willing to work with him if he was an otherwise great guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:06 AM
5

Try being a woman and dating this way. Dudes lose their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:37 PM
16

This is an absolutely brilliant way to frame this, and makes total sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:23 PM
11

Why else would guys here literally deny the reality other people live? They can't fathom it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:01 PM
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😂 none of the older single women I know are 'old and alone'. They are actually way more social than I am, and I have a pretty full life. They socialize, they travel, they have hobbies and charitable causes they are involved with, and some of them keep side pieces. After all, single doesn't equal celibate. I really think just by reading here that so many men are unhappy alone, they can't truly believe anyone could be happy that way. Present this same information to women and it's no surprise at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:50 PM
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Y'all love your studies here, and they have done whole ass studies recently showing single women are the happiest group. It's not a cope, lots of people really are just happy that way. I met an older single, childless woman about 6 months ago, she's gone on two European vacations in the time I've known her. Rest assured she is not crying in her pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:19 PM
11

I said this yesterday, most guys seem to have a crazy ex GF story, so clearly all men prefer crazy 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:15 PM
9

I've not dated a guy who's made less than 6 figures since I divorced and every one of them said they would never date a woman who didn't have a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:36 PM
1

By definition they don't. They are men who use women for sex and use pretty much whatever means to get it. There's a huge difference between a fuckboy and a man who is just dating casually. Honesty and respect make all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:29 PM
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Women have exactly the same options. No one is with someone who didn't choose them. Relationships are two way streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:27 PM
2

I have kids. B is the answer. A punishes the one who did nothing wrong and rewards the one who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:46 PM
2

You need to seriously deep dive on why you are so focused on this. Squirting is something that kind of happens, but doesn't indicate the quality of the orgasm. I've only done it twice in my adult life, and I wouldn't describe either time as super memorable sex or even my best sex partner. Certainly not my most intense orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:42 PM
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Not if he chooses correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:13 PM
1

Only if I thought they would get on really well and they were both good people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:54 PM
8

Basically every guy I've ever talked to has a 'crazy ex gf' story. Does that mean men prefer psychopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:28 PM
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Personally, I think it explains their success rather than making it mind-boggling. No one gets successful by being a nice person, its done by doing whatever you have to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:57 PM
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Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The only problem comes in if you are unethical about it. Be super clear right up front about what your intentions for the relationship (or lack of) are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:48 PM
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Beta. I'd rather he treat women well and not be someone who just uses them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 06:45 PM
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😂😂😂 ask everyone who ever got blindsided by a cheater if they trusted their partner. I certainly did, that's how he got away with it so long. I trusted him, I didn't need to check up on him. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:16 PM
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I think men have a right to the info, I just fully believe if they want that info they need to be personally responsible for getting it. I mean there's no reason not to, a test does not require both parents consent, he can collect the sample while the child sleeps. There's literally no reason he can't get that information if he wants it. If a man has a belief that no matter who he is with, he will test his children, then I think that needs to be disclosed up front while dating, because if you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:53 PM
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This question was asked the other day here, and I answered it. The long and short of it is privacy issues around the central national database that would have to be created, and that it's asking to put in place an entire national infrastructure to solve an individual level problem, which I find kind of ridiculous for people who claim to want smaller government. If a man needs a paternity test done, suspects he needs one done, or even just wants one for shits and giggles, he can go to Walgreens t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:42 PM
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I'm dying to know how to wave my hair, what even is that. And now we can't even make eye contact with a guy without them thinking that we're interested? I mean on any given trivia night I'm making eye contact with at least 50 people in a room, at least half of them women. Doesn't mean I'm interested in anyone, means I'm at a social event and existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:35 PM
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No, due to the history of violence and the being unemotional. I'd be curious why the fiance left him but not a factor itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:03 PM
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Hugely different from woman to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:56 PM
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Barking up the wrong tree, I was a sahm for 10 years myself. I don't 'shit on them'. But I do caution people because these RP guys that want them are also the fastest to try to say they were 'lazy and refused to work' when the marriage goes south and suddenly they are facing alimony and child support. They will then do everything from hiding assets to cutting their pay to make sure she doesn't get 'his money'. Women are safer in general making sure they are able to be financially self-sufficient…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:39 PM
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You are in a privileged position given most marriages end in divorce now, it's more of a risk now than when you married I think. I do congratulate you and your wife on finding success though, you are living the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 07:09 PM
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Never heard of her but it's an asshole thing to say. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:21 PM
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I feel like hiding marital assets from your spouse is a bit unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:20 PM
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I want to roll my eyes at this answer but it made me laugh 😂 I'll go with 3 out of 4 ain't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:12 PM
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Virgins are not incels by definition. It's other behaviors that are misogynistic and hateful that get them called incels. Women generally are not the ones putting pressure on men to lose their virginity, or calling them losers if they don't. It's not women telling men that their value rests on how many women they can sleep with. Generally speaking that pressure is coming from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:10 PM
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These are things women complain about for men they try to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:07 PM
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You know what doesn't tend to make men feel like men as I've observed? Paying alimony when she divorces you because she didn't have a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:06 PM
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You don't expect your partner to be able to function as a self-sufficient adult, or make a financial contribution to the relationship? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:05 PM
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Can we please stop saying 'society', when what we actually mean is 'other men'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:42 PM
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I think because we are generalizing, I do agree with you and I do think the higher value a man is, the higher his standards are. That's been my observation. Men are so often driven by their libidos, they see any sex as better than no sex in terms of picking a woman, at least for sex/FWB. Men do tend to have some standards for women they will be in a relationship with, but they are still so so low. I kind of cringe when I see men say things like they don't care about her having a job or anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:31 PM
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Keeping in mind, this is from a woman's perspective, I can't speak specifically for men. *Hookup culture and the expectation of casual sex *Financial issues *Online dating giving too much choice *People lacking social skills *Obesity in both men and women *Complete lack of communication skills *Commitment issues
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:27 PM
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Absolutely, if she's going out that much, she's basically saying yes to everyone who asks, and isn't getting to know them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:53 PM
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It's an interesting theory, but it's a huge stretch, to the point I'll say it's flat out wrong, to say in your words that most modern dating problems are caused by birth control. If we list out the problems with modern dating, only a small portion is going to be related to finding someone whose face we find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:51 PM
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I agree. It's good to see people how they are, but there's a difference between noticing and focusing on them and mentally picking them apart and doing this on purpose. It just seems, I'm not sure the word I'm looking for, maybe cynical? I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:57 PM
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I literally said they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:48 AM
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I'm not disputing the data, it's your extrapolation that I think is off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:35 AM
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Sorry OP, but demand dictates value, and men are the ones creating the demand. As long as men are driven by their libidos, dick will always be lower value. That said, I've never seen anything like you describe the times I've dropped in to lurk on TRP. If anything they teach against making a woman the center of everything. It's one of their few teachings I really agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:31 AM
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Somewhat anti-RP myself and even I noticed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:28 AM
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Are they? Or is this one of those cases where who participated in the study is actually important. For your theory to make sense, it would have to be that the women in that study are sleeping with the men in that study. But they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:20 AM
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The gay men I've known tend to have hookups at the speed of light, and the queer women have told me that you can pretty much expect to be renting a U-Haul around the third date, they move in together fast. These trends likely don't affect them because they don't have the same hangups straight people do about sex and dating(generally). No one cares about body counts, or whether someone is a virgin, and open relationships and casual dating are more normalized. Most gay people aren't getting togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:15 AM
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You are so right it's not even funny. More and more men are wanting just casual sex and treating women terribly to get it, and I am in awe some days of the number of women in the all-female spaces I'm in that are just opting OUT. They are over it. When a man is going to put in minimal effort, do everything he can to push her to have sex that she probably won't even orgasm from, and expect her to go half on the meal for the privilege, it's pointless. Better to order Door dash and pull out the vib…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:57 AM
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I actually feel other than a very small percentage of people, dating apps have not only not done anyone any favors, it's actually damaged the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:40 AM
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Relationship type: LTR Looks: 5, he doesn't have to be crazy hot, lots of average guys are attractive Money: 7 Must have a solid career and able to pay his own bills. I don't care if that amount is only 50k a year so long as he's able to put a little away and not have debt. Personality: 8 self explanatory Social circle: 6 not having friends is a huge red flag and says a lot about them Intangibles: 4 (someone who reads, not a picky eater, no STDs, someone who cooks)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:19 PM
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Not in those words exactly but lots of guys have said they like petite girls
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:46 PM
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I literally got told here in the last 24 hours 7.5 is celebrity/model level attractive. I'd love to know who is a 10 if Heidi Klum is only an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:00 PM
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Absolutely not. This is actually how I pick my FWB - when he's pretty but not the brightest. Keeps me from wanting to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:49 PM
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Only the dumb ones. The hotter a guy is, the more likely he's gonna be a fuckboy and you don't want to risk catching anything, because he's getting around. *Obligatory reminder, wrap it up ladies and gents, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:44 PM
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Women get to be friends with guys all the time. Usually through work, social circles, activities, classes, whatever. I think the high rate of success this way versus cold approach in public is that when you are in the same places doing the same things, you both have reason to be there, and conversing is natural. If you walk up to a woman in a public park, it's very obvious you want something from her, otherwise you have no reason to approach her. Someone approaching you wanting something from yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:38 PM
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PPD men: Body counts matter, the higher her number the worse she'll be for a relationship. Also PPD men: Why do you insist on not sleeping with every guy at the same rate, it should be fair! Do y'all know what it would do to our numbers if we slept with guys we liked early? 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:01 PM
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I wish more people got this, men and women. It always seems like relationships or sex are the ultimate end goal for most people, when they'd be far better off working on themselves to become people worth being in relationships or having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:10 PM
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You've trained yourself to notice women's physical flaws. That's... certainly a life choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:47 PM
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East coast
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:42 PM
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Models and celebrities are 7.5, when the scale goes to 10. Mmmhmmm. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:01 AM
0

Sorry if I'm being dense, but who mentioned TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:36 AM
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Most, yeah, but not all, and some are not only asymptomatic but cause severe health issues and infertility for women. I would think protecting your own sexual health(general 'you' here) and your partners as well would be more important than 'it feels better', but clearly not. Yolo I guess, definitely a generational difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:28 AM
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The issue from my perception in my time here is that men here don't just say these are my experiences, it's 'I experienced this therefore AWALT'. Height in the perfect example. Almost every guy I know under 6' hasn't just had relationships, they've also been married. Yet somehow women saying they date guys under 6' are 'trying to be the exception'. No, we aren't the exception, we are the rule. The women saying they only date 6' and over are the exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:15 AM
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I am so grossed out by the amount of guys who don't use them. People are really ok with risking their sexual health because they think they can judge someone's STI status by how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:06 AM
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You do realize it only takes one encounter with one partner to get an STI right? There is no 'look' to someone carrying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:00 AM
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I think her face is probably fine, but if feels like she's trying too hard in her pics, the expressions are intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:47 PM
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Yes, but they paid the consultants five times what they pay you, so those opinions are more important. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:41 PM
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I'd love to see it a bit longer on top and closer on the sides, but hard to say with the camera angle. He's not bad looking at all regardless, definite potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:32 PM
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You have the internet at your fingertips, please use it to navigate to a dictionary site so you can keep up with the rest of the class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:30 PM
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It does though. A couple notch difference is a solid difference, and I don't think it matters much which end of the scale it's on, charisma can still trump looks when he's not the highest in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:29 PM
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I'm a reasonably solid 7.5, they were both 5s. I tend to say if you think I'm shallow, you haven't seen my first husband. 5'9, 285 and balding, but he had serious charisma. Looks really aren't everything 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:25 PM
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Generally speaking we do not know ahead of time, unless he has sent pics or talked about it or something. It's kind of the risk we take, because once you get in the bedroom most women won't walk out even if it looks disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:19 PM
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Hard to say, I want to say 5 also, but I feel like he's probably a 6 with a bad hairstyle and terrible camera angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:14 PM
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And this is why PPD is pretty much useless. Women: "This is my personal experience." Men: "It didn't happen that way." Might as well sit and talk to yourselves since you know strangers on the internet better than they know themselves. You have all the answers, therefore we have nothing to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:10 PM
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I see the whole thing as problematic. I think 10-15% is probably correct, and let me say I do believe it's a problem, and a deep betrayal to the people it happens to. That's said...criminalizing it would be really difficult, because you'd have to prove she knew the child wasn't his. Conception dates are NOT an exact science, and even with ultrasound you can't pinpoint the date of conception, you have to either have been doing IVF to know for sure exactly when an egg is fertilized or have been do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:53 PM
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***Either I read that wrong or you edited, that didn't read the same the second read through, I'll go with reading error.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:22 PM
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Can confirm, have dated guys who were a couple notches below me in looks, but were very charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:01 PM
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My theory about those guys is they are probably going after the girls with issues/low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:58 PM
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There are quite a lot of us in the in between - happy with our lives single, open to something if it comes along but not actively looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:38 PM
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So literally, don't date men. Because no one has the psychic ability to know someone will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:56 PM
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😂 I wouldn't know, never had that happen. Everyone decides their own risk tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:16 AM
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Oh, you have a lot of fuckboys hitting you up? Your experience differs from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:35 AM
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No one should be so cruel as to say that directly to anyone, and I've never seen anyone celebrated for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:22 PM
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Not saying what they mean....I can't stand indirect communication, I prefer to be straightforward and deal with things head on. Using men for money....less common, but I can't say it doesn't happen out there. I have a career and pay my own bills, don't need a savior. Making a man broke after divorce/with child support....I offered him to pay only 60% of the calculated child support in exchange for giving me full custody of the kids and him having regular visitation. Didn't ask for alimony, and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:15 PM
2

I struggle with this one because I want to say N count totally doesn't matter, but I admit I went on a date with a guy who without prompting felt the need to tell me about the over 200 women he had slept with at 30 years old, and I was a little put off by that (we have mutual friends, I know this was a fact). Generally speaking I wouldn't ask, but I would draw the line at paying for it in any way, having a recent or repeated history of cheating, or having porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:45 PM
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Where are you that the average guy can't get a hug for decades, when in the US the average age of losing one's virginity is 16 for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:41 PM
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You can't read it now(they took it down at some point) but when it was up, the FDS handbook is actually nearly entirely about self improvement. In fact there was an entire reading list of self help books on everything from healing emotional trauma to physical health to social skills to improving financially. Self improvement is one of the core FDS teachings, but people tended to come into the sub and read a couple of things they didn't like, and then just decide they knew what it was all about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:15 PM
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Kind of demonstrates how useless the question is. I have a friend who has only slept with the same FWB for the last 3 years. They are not in a relationship, it's a convenience thing. But I would not in any way consider her promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:48 PM
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I don't believe unconditional romantic love is a healthy concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:42 PM
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I love how the message here is that women need to lower their standards, not men need to step up. While I'm not a fan of TRP on the whole, their message on self improvement is on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:18 PM
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Making them wait is a way to filter out fuckboys, so the pump and dump rarely to never happens doing it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:09 PM
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Exactly. Most people out here just trying to pay their bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:26 PM
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Younger guys seem to think so 😂 I'd love to look a bit more like Rachel Hunter though 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:59 PM
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Literally in the link I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:57 PM
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You can talk to your ped about HGH as he gets closer to puberty, but I wouldn't stress it too much. I'm 5'3, my ex was 5'9 and our 2 boys together turned out as tall/taller than him, one of them is 6'1. Genetics are weird AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:55 PM
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Maybe shitty person was a bit strong, but cheating on his wife with another woman and then eventually leaving her for the pregnant mistress says a fair bit about his character, and that was left out of the movie. None too impressed either with the part where he was caught for the parking tickets because he pushed her into the bushes trying to take their child from her and it was seen by a policeman. They both had some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:44 PM
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Some of us are Stacy's mom at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:27 PM
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Lots of women love sports, and it's something relatable. Would it give you less disgust and give you more to talk about if she left that out and talked about her love of knitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:24 PM
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Truthfully, most socially adjusted women I know enjoy giving compliments because it's nice to make people feel good about themselves, but men take it as she must be interested in me. Like almost always. It becomes a form of social conditioning to just not compliment men because it could be taken wrong. There was a whole thread on TwoX about this not long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:15 PM
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They were both shitty people in real life. The movie was a highly glamourized account. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Gardner#:~:text=On%20June%2018%2C%201977%2C%20Chris,plans%20laid%20out%20before%20him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:06 PM
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For context how provocative? (Not a man, just curious 😂)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:52 PM
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As much as I oppose stuff like TRP, that's one thing I commend them on getting solidly right. Everyone should want to be their best selves, and the lack of effort in that respect in so many men shows. Literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:41 PM
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Been there, was married to an Irish guy. No it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:38 PM
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A lot of time it's definitely liars. Saw someone on a men's subreddit today talk about how the wife got a TRO on him and now she's living in "their million dollar mansion" and he's sleeping on a friends couch. Because you know when you can afford a million dollar mansion but can't afford a hotel room? 🤷‍♀️ Or the guy this week claiming he is a disabled veteran and his wife took the house and his car, and he can't afford to live on 1800 a month after alimony and child support. I felt a lot less s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:32 PM
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He's probably too young for me but I'll throw in another vote for sounds like a solid human being 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:26 PM
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Video is unrelated. She's just a food vlogger who tries crazy stuff she finds online. She's not a tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:21 PM
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No, but I REALLY wish some people would, maybe they'd finally do away with the 'men age like fine wine' narrative 😂 OLD says they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:18 PM
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I feel like you are better off with pictures than anything. BMI says nothing about weight distribution or muscle mass. Body descriptions at least attempt to. I would describe myself as average to curvy, BMI would probably say I'm fat. In reality I have an hourglass figure so the weight is boobs/butt/thighs. I feel like each one would say something different about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:01 PM
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Great for you for trying though. You can't win if you don't play!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:56 PM
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Media is there to tell a story, it's not expected to be realistic, and people really shouldn't be basing their expectations or morals on what they see on TV or in books. Healthy relationships and interactions make for very boring television and some of your examples are absolutely toxic. Someone leaving someone for someone else is a red flag. Dating someone you know to be aggressive and gets into fights is a serious red flag. The really reasonable one is the accidental pregnancy and they end up …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:51 PM
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Average looking best friend, absolutely. No question. As long as there is enough attraction to have a satisfying sex life for both of us it doesn't have to be fireworks and butterflies. There are far more important things in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:42 PM
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Female here. It's always flattering that somebody does that, it takes courage to deal with the possibility of rejection no matter how confident you are, so it's a compliment that somebody thinks you're worth that. Even if you aren't interested you should let them know that it's flattering and wish them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:40 PM
1

Could be, experiences will probably differ vastly based on social circles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:30 PM
2

It's been in my experience women will most often tell a guy she doesn't want to date him because she doesn't want to risk ruining the friendship. And then these guys complain about being friendzoned. Women have more experience with this stuff in general, people who want to turn the friendship into something more, we know how that ends. I feel like women are far less likely to complain about a guy not wanting to be friends after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:07 PM
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I mean this respectfully, I wouldn't assume she'll be celibate the rest of her life. Even women who don't want to date can find physical comfort when they need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:20 PM
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Who does that though? I've never once heard a woman complain that a guy wouldn't be friends after being rejected, this is literally why women tell men dating is out because they don't want to ruin the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:27 PM
1

Probably 1-2 when I go out like to a store, unless I'm going out to a bar or something then it's usually a lot more, at least half from women. Day to day rarely because I work from home.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:21 PM
3

Casual sex for men and women is not equal. Women are at higher risk of STDs, women carry 99% of the risk of sexual assault, only women have the risk of pregnancy from that encounter, and for all that risk only 11% of women orgasm from a first hook-up, compared to 64% of men. It's not the 'benefit' for women that it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:16 PM
4

Right up until those who don't end up broke from alimony and child support, then the tune changes. 😂🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:16 PM
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Probably, but I'm not seriously dating right now so I'm not super concerned. Most men have the girls they'd sleep with and the girls they'd seriously date, no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:00 PM
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Honestly, I think we are in a very rough transition period. Women are becoming more educated and more able to support themselves, and a lot of men are having trouble with that because they were raised to see themselves as the strong provider, but women on the whole don't need that so much. Not only is the provider not needed so much, but the whole idea of the nuclear family that pretty much all of us were raised with as the ideal is now not the only valid choice. It's wonderful that we have opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:48 PM
0

Holy crap YES. People right now break up and then immediately start hunting for a new relationship, taking months to a year off of dating to actually work on yourself and your issues is so uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:31 PM
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Too independent. I enjoy doing things together in a relationship, but am good on my own too. I like solo travel. My ex complained that I didn't 'need him' for anything. I tried to explain that we shouldn't need each other, we should be together because we choose each other. He felt like I should need him more. Little tolerance for complaining with no attempt to change. If you hate it, fix it. I cry easily. I get frustrated when my efforts aren't matched in a relationship, but seem to also have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:27 PM
2

I do hope he eventually got a job at least. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:10 PM
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I'm kind of of the opinion that most people should get off the dating apps and go outside. Rarely people win the lottery on them, but generally speaking they are just not a positive thing and people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:55 PM
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😂 Not even remotely close. I pick my FWB based on it being someone I'm attracted to but wouldn't catch feelings for. I've never tried to date him, he's pretty but not on the same level intellectually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:48 PM
1

Low libido, demi and quick on the trigger? May the Force be with you, I love your optimism to do it despite the challenges. And be sure to update us on how the date goes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:44 PM
1

This started out strong with the 'I'm not like other girls', then went terribly sideways 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:41 PM
1

And now you've learned a great vetting question, don't date somebody who is only just out of a relationship. It took me a long time to learn that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:35 PM
1

This is a great point. I advise friends to break down what they are looking for into three lists. One should be requirements, one should be traits that would be nice, the third should be deal breakers. The ones that actually followed this advice found that it improved their dating lives quite a bit when they actually used it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:30 PM
1

Gross generalization. I don't need help. I want sex and someone who loves me to eat pizza, go to cons, talk about books, and go to Rifftrax Live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:26 PM
1

Can we please stop with the women who enjoy sex are sluts narrative please and thank you. Kind of insane watching a conversation where guys talk about they want a woman who enjoys sex, while simultaneously calling them sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:21 PM
1

Ummm, I hate to ask the obvious question, but why are men in a relationship there in a singles session? I feel like I'm missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:18 PM
1

That's actually really weird, I recently said I've never met a man who had cats who was awful. Maybe there's something to it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:14 PM
2

I firmly believe this is the issue most forever alone type guys have. The ones I've seen complaining about not being able to get women when there is a picture available seem to put absolutely no effort whatsoever into their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:06 PM
1

I mean, I like to say that if 100% of the people around you are assholes, it might be time to look in the mirror 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:00 PM
1

I've always heard guys say you should jerk off earlier before the date, makes you last longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:56 PM
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Agreed, but the guys who don't are only worth fucking. Would never date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:54 PM
1

Wrong. A fuck no is a fuck no or they'd be a meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:53 PM
1

Men insisting women want one thing while what women want turns out to be different. Shocking 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:48 PM
1

Condom usage statistics say otherwise. Many women's experiences here say otherwise. The majority of responsible people wrap it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:41 PM
1

Right? I have way more sex in a relationship than outside of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:33 PM
1

It has some very theoretical perks, but the reality is most men can barely if it all support one wife, let alone multiple families.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:27 PM
1

It doesn't seem to have occurred to anybody in this situation that just because the pass is for three games, doesn't mean he actually has to bowl three games. He could continue to bowl one game as he had every other day, he just doesn't have to pay for these.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:24 PM
1

The best life advice is always in the comments 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:18 PM
1

I know a woman in Phoenix who embodies this. Had skin cancer removed, continues to sunbathe regularly, looks 20 years older than me despite a maybe 8 year difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:58 PM
1

You know how women keep talking about doing the emotional labor for other people? This is yet another example. It's no one's job to get someone else a date unless they are a professional matchmaker or volunteer to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:00 PM
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Men do this too, and honestly it's the direct result of people immediately rushing out to date again instead of actually healing their damage first. Unhealed emotional damage breeds toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:46 PM
1

Once again PPD man tries to apply an entire philosophy to all women as a warning to men instead of just admitting and owning that he stuck his dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:42 PM
2

I was accepted to culinary school and planned to have that life, until I got married and got pregnant with my daughter and realized that no matter how good you are, kitchen hours are absolute crap for a family. Women entering the field are more likely to have to choose between career and family, where it's a job that men can do single, or they can as per usual have a woman at home taking care of the kids. Kitchens don't keep daycare hours for a single parent to be able to accel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:35 PM
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The only women I know who have done this on purpose were college educated and financially stable with good family support. It's becoming a more common choice for women of that subset who don't want to settle for an unhappy marriage just to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:30 PM
2

Not to mention how breakups can screw up things socially for the people around them when things go bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:24 PM
1

I'm sorry what? It's now my job to manage other people's sex lives? Is it my guy friends jobs to be handing me dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:20 PM
2

I would say it's more of us with an interest in the subject being able to spot it easier, combined what the fact that people are much more vocal on the internet. Even the most clueless manosphere types likely know better than to go around spouting their crap at work or at social events.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:16 PM
1

So y'all are finally going to raise your standards. I like it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:06 PM
1

I literally call this dating like a man. They categorize women by those good enough to fuck, and those good enough to date. Not all men date like that, but generally it's super common and how I do it now too as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 04:05 PM
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Female, and yes I could. I have a high sex drive but a lot of things can be taught if the equipment is compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:58 PM
2

It's different when they are yours. You still crave those moments of peace though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:46 PM
2

I'm convinced men who say this don't actually look at any real 40+ year old men around them. Some age well, the majority do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:44 PM
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Or any topic concerning being a woman. A lot of men here truly believe they know more about women and their motives and behavior than the women they contradict.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:34 PM
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We call this 'being fuckzoned'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:30 PM
1

Ahhh yes, because toxic is so attractive. And then they complain that all women are awful. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:18 PM
1

Do a solid, HONEST inventory, and ask yourself if YOU would date you. If you wouldn't, why would someone else? Work on those things you need to work on. If you are overweight, losing 10-20lbs can make a big difference in your looks and how you feel about yourself. Go to an actual barber shop and get a good haircut. Ask the person cutting it for tips on a style that will work for you. Neckbeards are not attractive. If you are going to do facial hair, learn how to groom and shape it. Look up dress…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:00 PM
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I don't lie, but I don't discuss it either. I don't feel the need to know a partners sexual history, and if it's super important to him we are not compatible. I think only one person has ever asked and surprise he was the super controlling type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:18 PM
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Woman here, I don't expect to pay in the early stages, and a guy who asks to split the check wouldn't get a second date. He gets a very warm thank you for dinner of course, I wouldn't act like it's just expected. As we get a few dates in I will buy a round of drinks, or start to surprise them with little treats. Once we start to get intimate I love to cook so will often cook for them. I would never split because that says to me that he's not invested, and likely just looking for sex. Men will us…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:42 PM
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I'm in no way bitter about a bunch of dudes banging 3's I assure you. It's how vocal some of you are about sleeping with someone you wouldn't say hello to in public like having low standards is something to brag about. To a woman a man sleeping with her who sleeps with anything with a pulse is not flattering. If anything it's mildly repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:34 PM
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OMG yes. I always assumed because it had the most free features. Tinder, Hinge, Bumble here all have a solid mix of all types, OkCupid guys are bottom of the barrel in terms of looks and having stuff like 'Just got out of prison, ain't no b*tch gonna take my money' in their profiles. I wish I was joking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:25 PM
2

Actually that second link you post contains multiple criticisms of the study from other researchers talking about why it shouldn't be taken as fact. It doesn't 'prove' anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:20 PM
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That stat is quoted ad nauseam and it drives me crazy, because who filed the papers does NOT directly correlate to who wanted the divorce. We see time after time in the divorce forum that it can be for example a man who cheats and moves out to be with his mistress, and the wife files the papers. Look at that, woman initiated the divorce 🙄 Or a man tells his wife he wants a divorce, but he doesn't bother filing, just redirects his paycheck and moves out. Another 'woman initiates divorce' 🙄. I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:55 PM
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I have a big family, almost every one of my friends I've ever had are moms, and I've belonged to a lot of mom's groups over the years. Your comment does not reflect normal reality. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:29 PM
1

I thought women were the ones settling for betas. Why are all these people settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:26 PM
1

I am once again in awe of how low many men's standards are, how vocal some of you are about that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:16 PM
2

Yeah, the exclusive part is the whole discussion. She doesn't do sex before exclusive, he doesn't do exclusive before sex, but she checks all the boxes. It's pretty fascinating tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:33 PM
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Yeah, sounds like revenge fantasy to me. Just read a thread where two guys talked about how angry and triggered the women were in another thread, and literally not a single person in that thread seemed angry. Like no one 😂🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:34 PM
3

He doesn't have 3 FWB's. The one he really wants doesn't do casual, but is dating him while they get to know each other. He wants sex and is torn on making the choice 'so early'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:28 PM
3

Exaggerate much? I just read every comment and the spot checking I did on profiles showed that quite a number of men were calling him an idiot too. No one at all seemed visibly angry, they just thought he was being stupid for not wanting to commit even though by his comments he seems 95% wanting to commit because she seems to be everything he's looking for. People know by 8 weeks in if they want to date someone or not. It's a relationship, not a marriage. If she turns out to be lame in bed he ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:24 PM
3

I'm going to disagree. I'm not seeing where he says she is pushing his timetable up, she would be willing to date him until he's ready, she just won't be having sex in the meantime. Unless I read wrong I'm not seeing where she's pressuring him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:07 PM
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If you are sleeping with two women you have said you don't much care for, you aren't pursuing relationships with them, you are hoeing. Don't clutch your pearls, it's not a bad thing. It's just something your girl has decided isn't her thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:04 PM
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Alternatively she could be aware of how often casual sex gets you pumped and dumped and prefers to avoid that. Being willing to wait doesn't mean she has a low sex drive, it means she has standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:53 PM
6

I'd put money on she doesn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:47 PM
9

She didn't conjure this up, this is how anyone who isn't into casual sex dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:44 PM
2

Having hobbies and friends is actually a requirement for me. Where do they come up with this crap? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:12 PM
0

Literally everyone should be evaluating how a person adds to their life. You should have a full and balanced life, and any relationship you take on should add to that. If it doesn't, it's taking away time and energy, and not worth having. Only in PPD are things like bare minimum standards considered negative. And nope, date pretty often, and most of them are average looking guys who don't make spectacular money, but are good people who make me laugh. Same way most of my women friends date. Men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:07 PM
1

You are making the assumption it was meant to be advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:59 AM
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***Some women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:50 PM
1

I've been wanting to but based on what I read on the sub I'm kind of afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:28 PM
1

How drunk did you have to be to try this? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:26 PM
3

Actually a surprising number of single women I know are NOT on dating apps. We have all sworn off them, because they just don't seem to have what we were looking for, and it becomes a mindfuck after awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:25 PM
3

It makes sense, it's just not pretty to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:21 PM
2

That's because as a man, you view value relative to getting sex, and nothing else. Charisma, status and looks might get a woman into bed initially, but if you aren't a decent person none of that will matter in terms of keeping one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:38 PM
0

Honestly, work on yourself. Get your life and your mental health more in line with where you want to be, and you'll find it will come a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:37 PM
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That's because men seem to only think men are valuable if they are rich and handsome. Funny how being a good person is never a consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:32 PM
0

Yes, my turning 43 totally created hookup culture 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:10 PM
1

You aren't wrong. Social media are 100% data mining and social engineering platforms at their core, designed to influence behavior and make money. I don't think anyone is arguing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:08 PM
1

If you are accepting less than that for a relationship you should probably check your standards. Which one would you consider not necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:27 PM
5

Again, the why matters. If a lot of guys chase a woman because she is known for giving great head, is she high value? Why matters, and high value is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:58 PM
1

I have done both and there is a LOT to be said for feeling like a productive adult going to a job every day. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:52 PM
10

Too many variables. If a man attracts a lot of women who do meth because he is willing to get them high in exchange for sex does that make him a HVM?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:43 PM
2

Then I would say some women have weird ideas. That sounds very much like the you made me hit you line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:37 PM
2

If you are criticizing yourself based on how many people someone else guessed you may have slept with, or judging women on the whole based on some average sexual partner count you have in your head, I would really think about the internalized misogyny there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:24 PM
4

Most women won't want to pursue a known cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:21 PM
11

This. Too many men look at HVM only as jobs and money. Character counts for just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:20 PM
5

I'm curious how long since you dated before, because I can tell you dating at 43 it's an entirely different animal than 20 years ago. Like not even remotely the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:17 PM
1

I got peaced out on by a LVM, it can happen to anyone at any time. Him being lower value actually contributed heavily to the issue. That said, while I certainly would do better next time, I also wouldn't date someone who constantly had women throwing themselves at him. There has to be a happy medium out there somewhere, and if not, there's always cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:13 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean, he said he didn't see it as a risk for men because a man can just live on the streets. I said most people aim a little higher than that. I really don't think most people want to live on the streets 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:09 PM
2

My favorites...Aqua di Gio, Polo Black, Gucci Guilty, D&G Light Blue Pour Homme
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:08 PM
3

Common law marriages aren't recognized in most of the US luckily. I never thought I would say the US got something right that Canada did not, but you've actually changed my mind on that one. It's also a great example of why you should never move or quit a job for someone without a ring on your finger. Most people would be screwed by it, not end up with monthly payments. Second link it seems entirely unrelated to the topic at hand, but they definitely need to see an employment lawyer. They have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:01 PM
3

I feel like maybe you two accidentally replied on the wrong comment or something, because what you said had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:52 PM
3

Wow. Yeah, exactly like that! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:46 PM
1

It has been for me and my friends, although I suppose your mileage may vary. Pretty likely though 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:08 AM
1

Women go through that in their 30's too, and it is glorious. Then you hit 40 and the last fuck you had to give magically disappears 😁 Enjoy it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:59 AM
1

Agreed, but do love a guy with good cologne.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:49 AM
2

We were married with kids. I wasn't an 'option', and he didn't 'get me'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:22 AM
1

Lots of options? Hardly. 😂 Just one, you clearly have never met my ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:15 AM
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I mean if that's your standards I guess. Most people tend to aim a little higher, and getting back into the workforce after 10 years staying home can be really difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:45 AM
2

When I had one I did, all the time. Didn't stop him from fucking my friend unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:27 AM
1

3 out of 4 ain't bad? 🤷‍♀️ Honestly I didn't bother replying, partly out of laziness, and partly because for all I do have strong unicorn tendencies, I'm also over 40 and divorced with kids, so none of my good traits are worth anything anymore, per PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:25 AM
1

Definitely her loss 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:18 AM
1

Going to Twitter is your first problem. It's the cesspool that used to be Tumbler, they just got a little older and louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:11 AM
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They picked the wrong place 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:07 AM
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Like what the fuck am I even bringing to the table at that point. Most people consider raising the children to be extremely valuable. Do you put no value on it when a woman does it or just if you did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:50 PM
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You didn't observe, you came in and put words in their mouth and your assumption was wrong. This wasn't about society in general, you tried to accuse them of a viewpoint they don't have. Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:45 PM
1

Opportunistic means it wasn't planned, it was just there. Tinder takes planning and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:41 PM
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I think barring medical issues or something where lack of libido is up front, I feel like there is a bit of an implied contract in monogamy. Sex is kept in the confines of the relationship, but that means it should also be available on a reasonable and agreed on basis, otherwise you aren't compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:29 PM
20

The "Ohhhh, That's Why" - people you read their posts and get sort of a feeling you know why they have trouble dating when they complain. Then you check out their post history, and it gets reallllll clear, real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:24 PM
3

They usually come in 2 varieties in my experience. Cake eaters want variety and their family both. They are usually in it for the sex. The other type, and I think it's a lot more common, are guys who do it for attention, affection, ego stroking and sex they aren't getting at home. Sometimes there's a bit of filling an emotional gap in themselves too. Sex is last because really it's the other things they are seeking more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:19 PM
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It works for a lot of people, but you run the same risk as with a SAHM, when one becomes financially dependent on the other they put themselves in a very vulnerable position, and the working spouse runs the very real risk of alimony and child support. Personally I'm pro 'both work when possible'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:14 PM
2

This is way too vague. I mean, who's man is he? Did I let him into my living room or did he just show up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:59 PM
-1

But you guys tell us all the time that 5'11+ is not statistically the norm, so there can't be a huge abundance of choice, unless there's a phenomenon that tall men flock to dating sites. Seems unlikely since apparently all women want tall men, they wouldn't need dating apps. 🤷‍♀️ I'm not saying there aren't some women who prefer tall men, I'm saying this is only representative of women who value that enough to pay for it. That men under 5'8 get married all the time says that clearly most women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:18 PM
1

Explain it like I'm five since it's so simple. What does this graph prove in real world application, other than that to about 6% or less of female Bumble users height selection is important enough to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:43 PM
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It's flawed because if height was truly as important as PPD makes it out to be, more than ~6% of the women on the site would be paying for it. If 94% of men did not filter for weight, would it be correct for me to assume that all men care about weight because 6% actively filter it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:34 PM
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Part of that may be because men can and do lie about their height more often than you'd think on dating sites. I've seen a ridiculous amount of posts from women who meet up with a guy who claims to be 5'9-6'1, for him to show up only and inch or so above her 5'5ish. If height was important enough for me to pay to filter, I might set it to the top end too for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:31 PM
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Gaslighting how? What is this truth you feel like this graph proves?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:26 PM
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Only 9% of Bumble users in total pay for extra services, even if Bumble is 2/3 women that's still only a VERY small percentage of female users. This graph is completely useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:24 PM
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I admit I come to PPD to watch the self-owns for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:33 PM
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So they turn a woman into a financially -dependent stay at home wife/mom instead, and then raise hell about paying alimony and child support after the divorce to the woman they didn't want to work. Pure logic...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:25 PM
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we can't trust studies Yet 'studies' about male sex drive, female sex drive, mating habits, pair bonding and whatnot make up the entire basis of TRP teachings. So glad you guys are finally copping on to your own bullshit 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:20 PM
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Yet if any woman here brings up the wage gap, or someone mentions alimony, half this sub is suddenly preaching equality and how women are out-earning men. It can't be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:00 PM
3

I dated 3 objectively high value men in the last year. All good looking, fit, great careers(all 6 figures), generally would be considered good people. I broke up with all 3. Lawyer guy was the most self absorbed person I've ever met. Every conversation was about him. Structural engineer had a porn addiction and a crapload of ex wife drama that he fed into. Met but didn't date a construction project manager was still hung up on a breakup with an ex from a year ago and anger issues that were becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:02 AM
1

I am always drawn to guys who read, can cook, and love going to cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:27 AM
1

At this point in my life I'm more asking myself is monogamy a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:28 AM
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I think having a preference to only date fully straight men is just that, a preference. I also think judging their likelyhood to cheat based on their sexuality is biphobic. Straight men cheat all the time, yet you prefer to date them. The logic doesn't follow. Sexuality is just that, cheating or not is based on a person's morals. Sexuality does not determine morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:54 AM
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There's no one size fits all answer here. People are far too variable and there's too many other factors, such as mental health and economic situations. I would say if we have to make generalizations, a healthy, well adjusted two parent family is ideal, followed by a healthy, well adjusted single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:47 AM
4

Most of the things you mention vary a LOT depending on the physical health of the person giving birth. I had no more trouble recovering from my last baby at 36 than I did my first at 19, and my first was my most difficult pregnancy. Someone who is unhealthy at any age is going to have a more difficult recovery than a healthy person in general. You can absolutely be a good mother in your 20s, I was one, but I can't deny my younger kids benefit from my experience and financial stability that I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:30 AM
2

I love activity dates for 2nd or 3rd dates, but activity dates aren't terribly conducive to conversation, which is important to me on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:56 PM
3

That's because so many men lie about or are intentionally vague about their intentions. If people were honest it would be less of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:52 PM
1

It's not shame, it's exhaustion. Serial disappointment is bad for the self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:46 PM
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This is basically the definition of acting emotionally unavailable, and it's a huge red flag for a woman wanting a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:26 PM
4

I literally answered why some of us use financial investment as a metric, as it helps weed out the guys who will just lie to get sex. It shows interest and effort. Where you guys go wrong with this is repeatedly, despite us never using the word, telling us we expect expensive dinners. (Or even gifts, who even mentioned that? I didn't.) You decide what we say means something else and get mad about it. My go-to suggestion for a first date dinner is my favorite Mexican restaurant, it's not pricey a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:07 PM
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Hi, nice to meet you! You have now. Two points. One being that Fuckboys want as much as they can get from you(sex) with as little effort as possible. They rely on 'Lets grab a drink' and Netflix and chill in the first dates to get you into bed with little to no financial investment. Second point being men only invest financially in what they value. See Fuckboy explanation above. There are exceptions to every rule, but not a lot of men are eager to take women they see as hookups to multiple dinne…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:33 PM
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It is absolutely striking to me how you describe buying a woman dinner four times and not get sex out of her as 'falling victim', but not one mention of actually liking her. You don't even pretend, you say she 'broke your trust' by not putting out. This was a transaction for you, not a date, and she didn't pay up in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:23 PM
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Same thing men now tell women on the regular - should be vetting better before you meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:13 PM
4

90% of it can be gaged through proper vetting before meeting, just asking questions. The rest can be seen within 3 dates. No one commits to a relationship before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:58 PM
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Which part of that should I compromise on, or that you find unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:31 PM
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Then show me even one study that says most men now do an equal share of housework and childcare, or even equal proportional to working hours. Please, I'd love to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:59 PM
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Honestly so many men could raise their attractiveness level with just losing weight, getting a good haircut, and cleaning up their beard. Lack of effort is far more unattractive than people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:33 PM
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By most people's standards a good career is anything that allows you to pay the bills, put a bit away for emergencies, and have job stability. That doesn't require college. And a good body can just be reasonably active and not overweight. Your definition of these and the average woman's definition are not the same. The bar is indeed low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:30 PM
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*RP/sexist attitudes *Inability to hold a conversation *Not able to support themselves *Isn't involved with/doesn't support their kids *Has unresolved ex/baby mama drama *More than about ~25lbs overweight *Doesn't have good hygiene, and doesn't shave/clean up their beard regularly *Doesn't drive (I don't live in a big city) *Addictions to drugs/alcohol/smoking/porn *Doesn't keep their space clean *Wants a religious partner *Picky eater *Doesn't have friends *Doesn't treat their health(including …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:20 PM
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Lol it was sarcasm, but yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. It's the PPD men who seem to be having the most trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:23 PM
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This is definitely a point OP seems to be missing. I don't think they understand how often women get ghosted/flaked on. It happens a LOT. People in online dating are flakey in general, it's not one gender or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:49 PM
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This is simply not true. Studies done just in the last two years show women still take on the bulk of the housework, even when they are the higher earners. https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/05/breadwinning-wives-gender-inequality/589237/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:38 PM
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We are mostly unattractive, we use men for their money, we lie, we don't like sex unless we are on the CC, we think too much of ourselves, we have nothing to offer... amazing they want to date us at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:24 PM
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No kidding. These men that claim that men age better need to see what's on dating sites in the men over 35 category. We are not seeing the same options, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:31 AM
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An emotionally stable woman with good self esteem and any kind of options will leave you in the dust for this kind of behavior. But if your preference is anything else, sounds like you are all set.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:24 AM
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I said when they do have options, not if they did. You know as well as I do men don't skip a potential match just because someone else has matched with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:07 PM
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Oh, we are pretending that men only talk to one woman at a time in online dating when they have options 😂 I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:55 AM
1

I follow FDS, a little less since they moved but still keep up with it. I treat it like I do anything else and take the good parts and leave the bad. I don't agree with them blindly, but the things I have found useful were life-changing. RP likes to pretend FDS is all about taking and giving nothing back, but that's simply not true. When it was accessible in the sub, the handbook was damn near entirely about becoming better emotionally, physically, financially, career-wise. The emphasis was on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:41 AM
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An objectively 4-6/10 woman is not going to get a 7-9/10 guy for a LTR, sex yes, not a LTR. Men as a rule don't date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:41 AM
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It had nothing to do with her. He did an interview and admitted he'd been to a screening of his movie that day and was feeling shitty because he'd done a horrible job of it, the hooker was for an ego boost. But way to blame the woman for his cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:38 AM
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That's exactly what would happen. Coffee Meets Bagel does this and I found it useless because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:31 AM
3

Exactly this. Add in the sex talk guys like to try to engage in before they've even met you and it's just all red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:19 PM
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To be the fair the name thing should have been disclosed before the date. Any woman who doesn't Google stalk her date before hand puts her life in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:08 PM
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Those aren't the ones avoiding guys who put 'see where it goes' in their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:52 PM
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When a woman is on a dating app, she typically knows she either wants a relationship, or casual dating. They are very different goals. Honestly a lot of women have learned to avoid guys who do the 'just want to see where it goes', because more often than not that translates to 'I just want casual sex, but I'll let you have hope it might be more'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:33 PM
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The first thing anyone looking at this is going to ask is why did you think it was abuse enough to document, but not enough to call CPS or attempt to get the kids out of her reach via a custody order when it actually happened.
/r/Divorce_Men17/07/22 07:52 PM
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It's not the most common, but ovulation is not fixed, the cycle day it's occurs can fluctuate for a variety of reasons, which is why using period tracking apps which can only estimate ovulation, or the rhythm method aren't particularly safe as birth control. And why you can't get pregnant having sex during your period is wrong and dangerous information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:23 PM
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I learned while trying to get pregnant that I ovulate on days 9/10, because I have short cycles. Sperm can stay alive in the woman's body up to 5 days, so I could have sex halfway through my period and still get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:49 PM
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They are, but are also partially right. No one has yet passed but South Carolina has introduced legislation that would make it a felony to travel for an abortion, and Missouri is voting to allow civil suits for people who leave the state for one. This is why they just introduced on the federal level that a state can't outlaw it, because some states are already trying to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:46 PM
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Without knowing if Mario has ever had any LTR's, or if Dario is going to be resentful of my being more experienced, I would have to stay single. If Dario wasn't the type to use the word N-count I'd choose him. 'A bit of a Fuckboy ' is too much of a Fuckboy in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:47 PM
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I do love the smell of a guy's clean skin. I don't know if I'd say certain guys had a special smell, but I have run across ones that tend to get BO very easily. That said I'd be remiss if I didn't point out a good cologne, used sparingly, totally bumps you up a notch for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:42 AM
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Your logic is like saying I went to a CrossFit gym and asked what the women look for in a guy, and since all kinds of people do CrossFit, that sample represents the average woman. It completely negates the fact that going to such a specific place you are far more likely to get certain types, just as on dating apps. Women on dating apps are presented by the algorithm with men who are swiped on by more people first. According to the men here that sets their expectations higher. That's not a situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:10 AM
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Most women aren't on dating apps, so using that study to judge women as a whole is pretty flawed in itself. WAY more men than women use those apps, and the women who don't are typically dating far more average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:25 PM
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Method matters. The same or more women attempt, more men succeed. This is due to men more often shooting or hanging themselves, while women usually overdose or cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:12 PM
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Because coercion negates consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:35 PM
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Not sure why but damn did this make me smile. Happy you guys made it work 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:58 PM
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I had a tummy tuck and a boob job after having kids. I was married at the time so no idea if it helped my dating life. I'm single now, but not actively trying to date. I will say it's the best thing I ever did for myself, and worth every penny. Completely took away the things I was self conscious about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:52 PM
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When I say a guy would have to have his shit together for me to date him it means I expect him to bring the same things to the table that I do - stable job, their own place to live, takes care of their health, good credit, financial situation under control, good mental health, no ex drama. I have no reason to go lower than that and I'm happy to be on my own if it doesn't come along. I do find it ironic the OP mentions antidepressants as a negative. I look at that as someone who has taken enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:45 PM
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Of course not, they call her crazy or a gold digger or a hot mess. I have heard male friends say quite often they won't date these women. They'll sleep with them, but not date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:14 PM
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The women saying this are not the same women dating those guys. Everyone has different views and opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:13 PM
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If I didn't meet a guy who knew how to treat a woman properly? Yes, I would happily stay single rather than settle.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/22 05:26 PM
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In FDS we believe in working on ourselves, our careers, our hobbies and our social lives so we aren't living our lives focused on if a man wants us or not. When you are healthy and happy on your own, you attract what you seek, and if not, you have a life you love already.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/22 03:21 AM
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They did a survey on this in the divorce subreddit recently and in at least half the cases where women answered it was the man who asked for it, and the woman who filed. The study cited is highly flawed if they are only asking who initiated vs who decided they wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:12 PM
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If they've got a high n-count because they used to sleep around I don't care too much about it. If their count is that high because they've had a lot of romantic relationships, I see it as a bigger issue. This is actually super interesting, and I realized reading it I see this as being different for men and women. To me(as a woman) high N-count on a guy outside relationships signals commitment issues. High count on a woman in relationships says someone who jumps from relationship to relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:00 PM
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That bar isn't high as far as I can see, I suspect you'll find your person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:56 PM
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LOL lots of normal women do too, not just celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:57 PM
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But a woman, with a high body count, has to have outstanding attributes to make me consider wifing them. Mind elaborating? We talk a lot about standards here but seldom seem to get specific. What to you would be the right tradeoff?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:24 PM
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True, I have high hopes for the next generation as they age since men are now actually being made to contribute more than just a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 03:06 PM
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She says a lot of men her age just want someone to take care of them and she’s done taking care of people. I think this is a lot of it. Women who are going to raise children by that point already have, and why take on another child once you are done? Men in that age group by and large want someone to cook for them, clean for them, and do all the other work women that age are tired of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:17 PM
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So I guess the stats about the STI rates skyrocketing in nursing home age adults are just men having sex with men? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:11 PM
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Men don't lose as much attractiveness when they age in some cases they get better as they earn more money for "beta buxing" younger girls. I always hear red pill guys say this, but looking at the women around me vs men of the same age doesn't really support that theory much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:56 PM
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Women usually have different standards for different men. One for the casual-relationship (alpha fix) and other for marriage/LTR (beta bux). And men don't? Seems to me the whole N-count conversation stems from the fact that some men will happily sleep with someone with a higher N-count but would never consider committing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:09 PM
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I would say a competent adult with standards, but I feel like a lot of the guys here wouldn't be so complimentary about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:45 PM
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Having low standards isn't something to brag about, and isn't something we respect you for. Do better, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:41 PM
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Men who pay for a slice and a beer expect something in return. LOL they can expect, doesn't mean we are obligated or they get. No is a complete sentence, and any guy who would get pissed off I said no isn't worth a second date anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:59 PM
1

What the hell is a stony jawline and hunter eyes? Men here are so certain Chad is out there they are now claiming to have seen him, like sasquatch sightings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:28 PM
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They seem to have a really hard time understanding this. I keep seeing men say stuff like "High standards are fine, but you'll end up alone", and most single women are like that's cool shrug. Settling for less than we want or require doesn't add value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:26 PM
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When I was younger, probably. These days I have a list of requirements, a list of negotiables, and a list of deal breakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:26 PM
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People can carry the exact same weight yet be different clothing sizes/body shapes. People carry it differently depending on their frame/height/where the weight distributes. Also average doesn't mean 'most'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:19 PM
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Just under the 'Create New Post' button in the forum area there is a dropdown, you'll want to select 'Newest' as opposed to the default 'Recent Activity', that will fix it, although I don't know how long that preference stays.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/22 02:28 PM
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They either have a lasting relationship or marriage or they jump from one relationship to the next. They probably have a lasting relationship because they are emotionally healthy. Its those of us who were not who jumped from person to person because there was something lacking within us. I say this from a lifetime of experience, and having only in the last year come to this realization. And I used to have the same complaint. "Easy for you to say....". But now I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:43 PM
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Literally the issue when women are trying to vet, and why hearing 'pick better' is so frustrating. She's a woman, not a polygraph machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:09 PM
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Very possible your therapist wasn't a good fit, sometimes it takes going through a couple before you find the one who's methods clicks with you. I understand the frustration of feeling like it was time wasted. The being happy alone is something I struggled with most of my life, and led me to settle for relationships and marriages I shouldn't have been in. I was the poster child for daddy issues growing up, and just wanted someone to love me. When they did, I found it very hard to walk away, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:51 PM
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Part of self improvement is therapy when it's needed, and as someone who has done it I think you should consider it. Per your post history you are depressed, were dealing with your depression with alcohol, and were having suicidal idealation in the last year. That is not a healthy place to be. This is a cycle. You feel depressed because you are alone, but people want to be with people who are healthy and whole. When you are depressed and not liking yourself like this, it shows, and it's really o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:58 PM
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You said like men they have to be attractive to get a desirable romantic partner but you are ignoring the fact that men have to be quite attractive like 8 to get an attractive women whereas a women can be a 5-6 and still get a handsome guy. I think it's important to discern the difference here between casual dating and commitment as you mention 'romantic partners'. Men on average will absolutely date down in looks for casual sex, but for relationships, they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:39 PM
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Ahhh, but social circles and coworkers aren't the same thing and in my experience rarely overlap. I think it's a birds of a feather thing. The people I meet socially tend to be in similar industries as me, maybe partly because we enjoy the same kind of activities. But you are right, there is little exposure in my day to day, even though I'd absolutely date a nice plumber or welder or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:02 PM
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Let me start by saying I love this, and I know a lot of single women who feel the same way. They probably wouldn't even be entirely against becoming a FWB eventually, but they like being single and aren't looking for commitment. I wondered reading your reply if you are on dating apps, and how you are presenting yourself. Saying you are just looking to date casually to most people means you are looking for hookups. Like how do you present what you are looking for without coming across like you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:54 PM
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Until they actually start dating them. They may have their groupies, but cops, military, EMT's, firemen typically make the top 5 lists every time of worst professions to date because they are on average the most likely to cheat. In addition cops have the added bonus of being the profession with the highest rate of domestic abuse to their partners. I've not personally known any girlfriends who have said they wouldn't date a blue collar guy, they are just a lot harder to meet. Pre-covid, I worked …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:42 PM
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There's nothing irrational about expecting a man to to have high enough standards to not knowingly dump his sperm into a woman that he doesn't fully trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:00 PM
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Do you think women haven't faced adversity when fighting for their rights? I assure you they did and continue to this day to do so. When it was women wanting equality, it was a women's issue. When men need help suddenly it's a societal issue, except men don't want on the whole to actually put the work in to help each other. I don't know what to tell y'all, women can't fix this for you, you've got to collectively do more than just an opinion on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:22 PM
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We 'pump billions of dollars into studies and campaigns and marches and pink ribbons and shit' because women came together and advocated and fought for those things. None of them happened because men came up with the idea to help women. Now men as a collective are experiencing a higher rate of issues than before (suicide, mental health issues etc) and for whatever the reason deciding women should be the ones to fix it. I agree with you that the studies and campaigns and marches and stuff need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:56 PM
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Think of all the women you know and encounter, and understand 1 in 4 of them has been raped. Yes, it's that often. It is a VERY real danger women have to be aware of constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:17 PM
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Not true, men have a way of presenting themselves to the other than what they actually are and as women yes we often fall for that. Fortunately FDS teaches women how to avoid that trap and how to weed out the good from the bad. So maybe people like you should actually be advocating for it, given the emphasis on improving ourselves, and how to find Good Men rather than Fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:20 PM
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Again, why is the onus on the woman to see into the future and know he won't be a decent human being, rather than on the man to not be a piece of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 01:29 PM
1

Ahhh yes, the classic 'single mother as an insult to women', rather than towards the man who didn't step up for his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:04 PM
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You stated in your comment that there's nothing there about leveling up or improving yourself. I'm pointing out it's literally a basic philosophy of the sub. Seems to me I'm not the one cherry-picking here since you were basing this off a few front page posts rather than actually reading anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:13 PM
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Tell us you haven't read the sub without telling us you haven't read the sub. Literally the very first chapter of the FDS handbook (Linked in the wiki, marked 'read before posting') is on how to become a HVW. Including recommended self help books. For those that actually read the sub, it is often and emphatically emphasized to work on your health(including mental health), fitness, career, friendships, hobbies and finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:20 PM
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