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Thank you, this was years ago and happily married to a guy that who does still struggle to open up at times will do so when needed. I hope my ex finds or has found someone too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:36 PM
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I hear what you’re saying, but for this guy I was dating in particular he would come over to my house and act like this dark cloud. At some point, I asked if you don’t want to talk about what’s wrong, and you don’t want to change. Why are you here? He said sex was too stressful so no sex. It’s like he just wanted to be a sad angry lump in my house. When I told him “you need to get over it or stop coming over” I was the bad guy What do women do at that point? I ended up breaking up with him and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:33 PM
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Exactly this! I hope the men will chime in on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:55 PM
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Is sex for men really that magical? Like of all the guys I’ve slept with the vast majority of it was largely the same. Sex with my husband is the best sex I’ve had of any guy. Is it the actual act with any woman you find attractive that is the draw or is the ego/ status boost? Not asking in a judgmental way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:22 PM
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The issue I have had, and in particular with one guy was he was obviously stressed and upset. I would ask him to talk about it and he would say no. But then he would walk around moping and angry and would snap at any little thing. It’s like either open up and get help, or push that shit down and hold frame. But what you can’t do is just be a jerk to everyone because you can’t handle things. Gotta pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:14 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:40 PM
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I think I would be average. Not chad by any means, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:34 PM
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Boys in the hood
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:40 AM
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A prostitute has an abundance of other options to feed her children, at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:43 AM
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You’re acting like these women are dumb. Being uneducated in a western manner doesn’t mean they aren’t wise. I’ve seen firsthand two women take lonely losers to the cleaners after a baby and citizenship. At that point who is exploiting who? Also, not all passport bros are awful misogynistic assholes, most are just unattractive and lame. Unfortunately the loudest and most ignorant among them try to speak for all of them on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:40 AM
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You’re telling me women aren’t a hive mind because I have a differing opinion. I think we agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:37 AM
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Girl I’m not reading all that. In the time you sent that you could have fucked your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:28 AM
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Victim victim
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:25 AM
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And some people have six toes. For the vast majority of women it’s not that hard. They just want to be martyrs. Being a good parent doesn’t mean you give up your entire self and sex with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:53 AM
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I think jokes about your Gods and your country are funny, why don’t you like those?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:50 AM
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Tall men hate you too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:47 AM
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Yes I have two. Don’t have to google. Put them down. Your toddler hung off you because you let them hang off you. Tell them no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:38 AM
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Taking care of young children is just not that hard, and I’m tired of women acting like it is. They go to bed at like 8pm and take several naps during the day. Just say you aren’t sexually attracted to your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:58 AM
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Why even be in a relationship then? Poor guy has to jump through a million hoops to just have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:53 AM
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I actually agree, but not to the same degree. Most men level out quite a bit as they age, and are not all horny pit bulls. I do get super annoyed with married women that act like sex with their husband is some awful chore they have to endure. Or their husbands being playful and touchy is some huge affront. A lot of women act like their husbands being sexually attracted is repulsive and disrespectful to them, and it’s even worse when they shit talk them for it. Especially in front of mixed compan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:57 PM
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This makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:13 PM
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Do you not know any women in real life that you can talk to? What is your relationship like with your mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:07 PM
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Are you trolling to get the attention of women because you don’t get any in real life? You can’t possibly believe this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:04 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:02 PM
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Well you said you haven’t heard of it. I gave you an example of it. Now it’s not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:57 PM
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/r/exmuslim is a subreddit that has plenty of women in those countries complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:49 PM
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He’s 5’9 or 5’10 not really sure tbh. Average height
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:29 PM
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lol me and none of the women I know either. We need a name for us normies. The handmaids tale called us “econowives” but that doesn’t have a good ring to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:43 AM
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Love it! I have a black chad. These men will tell us they don’t exist though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:56 AM
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24 million people that live in the same vapid culture is a bubble. When like 200 million people don’t live that way. Yes it’s not reality for the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:54 AM
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Asians can’t be Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:47 AM
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How he trolls the media. I can’t speak for the way he treats her behind closed doors. I’m not sure with his on media personality if he just could turn that off at home and turn into a kind and loving partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:41 AM
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They quick to say “not all men” but quick to say see this woman! All the women think like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:39 AM
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He’s also become an insufferable asshole in the last five years. An insufferable asshole maybe she could deal with, an insufferable ass hole in a wheelchair was a step too far
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:36 AM
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I agree don’t do anything you aren’t comfortable with. Not saying you have to do anal, but a lot of the times that’s what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:56 PM
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Ok, I’ll give an example: Guy says: Men want to be wanted You: you have to find one that wants you back Second example: Men want genuine desire, but if they’re average to below they will never get it. That’s what the anger is about You: then become above average Maybe this isn’t your intention, and text can be hard to read tone but, honestly? You don’t see how those two responses can come off as at best invalidating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:46 PM
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So you’ve just done exactly what I’m describing. You jumped to saying something mean and rude instead of engaging with what I said. Nothing I said warranted that strong of a reaction. And I’m not referring to just this guy. Every guy, should I say person now including me, that doesn’t respond in the way you like gets a snarky nasty response. It’s mean, and it’s uncalled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:29 PM
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So are you though. Again, are you actually curious about what they want or are you just wanting to argue? There are plenty of guys here saying “to be desired” They don’t want your unasked for advice. You’re coming off like a mean girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:10 PM
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Yeah that traffic was a big killer too. We went to visit and we are just sitting like a parking lot on the freeway foreeeever to drive like no kidding maybe 5 miles and she’s like it’s ok! It reminded me of the meme with the dog in the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:07 PM
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I think the pushback you are getting is your question was “what do men want” Not “what do you want me/women to do about the fact that you can’t get what you want? Be better” I can’t speak for men, but I imagine they have heard over and over what to do, and it’s old and tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:01 PM
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Outside of that, so you like living there? I have a friend who is doing her best to convince us to move out there but the cost of living is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:56 PM
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I feel like you are asking these men what they want, they are telling you and then every response from you is snarky, invalidating, or trying to tell them what you think is actually right. Is your question in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:52 PM
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Sorry, meant for OP! I’ll delete and ask her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:51 PM
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The answer is not always, but a lot of times Anal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:49 PM
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Keep moving east.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:47 PM
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Honestly if you’re broke and average looking and want to attract women move to the south or Midwest. OC ain’t it for normies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:43 PM
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You literally live in one of the richest places in the whole country. A place that specifically attracts overly superficial people. There was an entire tv series about Orange County filled with beautiful people behaving poorly. Like, you must know that right? It’s a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:37 PM
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If you were born and raised in OC your life is already one most folks can’t relate to. Roving rich chads with boats makes a lot more sense in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:19 PM
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Right? Like This feels real specific and regional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:16 PM
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That makes muuuch more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:42 PM
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I would agree not a first date. But I also would never just randomly stop at someone’s house without their knowledge. I would hate if a guy did that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:29 PM
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Or a simple, do you like to cook?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:05 PM
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My husband and I also had that conversation while dating. You don’t ask in a weird way like you said. But sex drives are a very key subject to discuss, not on a first date but surely before moving in together or dating for any substantial amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:03 PM
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I do. I’m not insane lol. Why on earth would you wait to find that out? I don’t ask it like a checklist or job interview but it should come up wellll before moving in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:00 PM
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I had kids because I had a primal biological urge to have them. It was like once I turned like 25 I was almost CRAVING a baby. Pregnancy was very easy for me, as was breastfeeding and sleeping. It’s the never being able to stop worrying that gets really exhausting. Looking at life and realizing you could have retired in ten years but now it’s closer to 20 because of this sacrifice. A lot of times the kids don’t even give a fuck, just what’s next? Where can we go next, what can we do today? What’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:12 PM
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Yes. I don’t get into relationships with men that can’t cook, clean, or wont go down. All three are deal breakers. For me, These things are uncovered in the talking stage. I also cover religion, ambition, past relationships and if you have other healthy relationships (friends, family). That is what dating is. Getting to know compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:55 PM
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I want to know where all these single rich men with boats and six packs are as well. Maybe I’m not Stacy enough to be around them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:46 PM
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A woman’s self worth comes from a man not selecting anyone else. Sir. No if anything she will blame ALL men. Instead of her choices and the shitty dudes she’s picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:38 PM
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Well thanks for apologizing. It does sound frustrating at the least. Im a feminist in more of I guess a classical sense? I think that women should be able to choose: stay home or work. Equal rights etc. But it seems like with this gender war stuff there has been a lot of vitriol labeled at ALL men for the sins for a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:39 PM
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Whew I remember when it was Housewives just lay around and eat bon bons References to women and marriage as ball and chain Lots of talk of Welfare queens On and on. So now women are working and getting paid more and that’s a problem too. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. May as well get paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:30 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:10 PM
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Do you think sex is worth all that? Sounds miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:02 PM
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I think the trad wife influencers are doing that now. They seem to be gaining some traction. But I, and I think most women don’t pursue a career to beat men. I did it because I had to eat and pay bills. I got a degree in marketing (lol) with no debt. It’s been a lucrative and fulfilling career. It seems like men online seem to really dislike these jobs and stereotype the women that have them, while also wanting women to not stereotype the jobs men choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:00 PM
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Oh ok. I was thinking a cold approach as like approaching for just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:36 PM
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What do the genders of leaders at your company look like? Say director level and above? I’ve seen in a lot of companies women and minorities do a lot of the low level positions but the top is still pretty straight white male dominated. Slightly less so for HR (women) and finance (Asian men)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:27 PM
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I always found the idea of cold approach kind of odd. Like, you don’t know absolutely anything about me other than you think I’m sexually attractive. The odds that two complete strangers would be compatible seem low. Is cold approaching just for hooking up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:22 PM
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Are more young women going into programming than young men? That’s interesting. Every tech company I’ve seen is heavily male dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:07 PM
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These same men complain about paying more in taxes for unwanted children. But they also then complain about the birth rate. But then they also complain about women wanting casual sex. But they also label those women as whores. It boils down to they are mad women are fucking. But they are also mad women don’t like sex as much as men. Idk I wish it made sense too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:39 AM
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Bc a lot of men want the women they knocked up to have abortions. I would also imagine that they know uniquely what is in store for unwanted children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:33 AM
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Damn that sucks. I have never in my life felt any of this as a woman. Just “exist”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:06 AM
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Ok now we talking. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:51 AM
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I have never had a problem dating. I’m I suppose about a 6/10. Very average looking in the face but I’m not fat so I give myself an extra +1 for that. I’ve never had a problem dating men, there has only been one guy that I shot my shot with that said no. It hurt my ego, but hey no big deal. When I was on dating apps I had an abundance of choice, I chose few. I only chose dudes around the same as me, about 5-6 of 10 in the scale. The few I chose ended up being incredibly weird dudes. I had severa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:29 AM
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Cmon now, you’re just saying stuff to be provocative at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:20 AM
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We told yall the only reason we wouldn’t fuck all men was because of the patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:12 AM
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No it’s the dream you told yourselves. Have you ever talked to older men? They had no such beliefs. They knew the game. Your grandpa knew he was one job loss away from his wife not loving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:00 AM
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Equality is the goal. Equality also does not mean access to sex which is what the red pill stands for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:09 AM
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From anyone? No. Sexual attention from men? Absolutely. I could live happily without any attention from men that I don’t pay for, for the rest of my life. Easily. I know many women who do it just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:50 AM
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It’s natural to feel sad sure. It’s not natural to just lay down and rot over it. Life sucks for the majority of folks in one way or another. Just try to find joy where you can. It’s not easy, but the alternative is to live a long life of misery without trying to find any happiness. If a woman is the only thing that makes you happy that’s not a good recipe to live a fulfilling life. I love my husband to death. If he got hit by a bus tomorrow I don’t think I would ever look for another relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:38 AM
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Perhaps? It doesn’t make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:34 AM
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Ok home. Hub and I agree that a poetry slam helps build your confidence in speaking, presenting, becoming self aware and commanding a room. Starting from baseline of my poetry is great gets you in the room. What you will build from a poetry slam is the other skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:56 PM
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This is the end all comment to the sub. Pin it. Shout it from the rooftops, spread the word to these men. Stop basing your happiness on being in a relationship. You tell them this and they will tell you a million reasons why they can’t without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:50 PM
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I completely agree. Broke up with the last “nice guy” I dated bc I just couldn’t respect his self flagellation and lack of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:44 PM
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Oh ok. Which other areas are you less confident in that you would like to gain confidence in? I’m a woman with no skin in the game would love to offer advice. My husband is here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:28 PM
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Would you be interested in something like poetry slams to gain confidence? I’m not sure what country you are in but in the US we have The Moth which is a really cool org that focuses on storytelling and writing. If you are a great poet, you could try to use that to gain more confidence in your writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:11 PM
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Hah that makes sense. Sounds a bit silly that I asked now that you’ve answered lol. Thanks for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:32 PM
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I’m so curious, I haven’t met a lot of people that define themselves that way. Do you find it difficult or easier having the orientation? Or a mix of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:23 PM
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Are most men not competent and/or confident? Asking genuinely. And if not, if you don’t believe in you, then why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:22 PM
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Being aro ace, does that mean you just value friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:19 PM
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Women get more attraction when they feel safe,understood and emotionally connected. So do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:18 PM
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To be confident is a way to show competence and strength. Women value competence and strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:17 PM
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I’m married. My husband is in the top ten percent of earners and manages a team of eight direct reports. I just don’t see going half on a first date as a big deal. It’s not that deep lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:34 PM
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I literally asked everything you addressed in my post. And I’m not a man. You could also see that from my flair. Maybe your reading comprehension is poor, and that’s why you couldn’t respond appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:10 PM
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No harm no foul. You just never know with text. Happy to help!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:43 PM
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Are you being facetious? You can never tell online 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:36 PM
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This is an example you may get, (obvious disclaimer I’m not comparing you to children or dogs) I like dogs. I like dogs that wag their tail and are happy to see me. I don’t like overexcited dogs that pee when they see me and jump up on me and bark on my face. I like children. I like children that are excited to see me. I don’t like children that wrap their body around my legs, that are constantly saying watch this watch this, see look at me look at me. There is a level of excitement that goes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:19 PM
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Most women aren’t anyone’s “dream girl”. A first date if you are looking for a relationship, is about getting to know each other, and assessing chemistry. Do you mean people that already know each other well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:05 PM
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I think it’s less about that, but more about the practical fact that dating can get pretty expensive. Add to that there are women who will just go on a date without sincere interest to get validation. Have that happen to you a few times and you may want to split too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:57 PM
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That’s fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:48 PM
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Yeah I’m an elder millenial too and it’s baffling to me. I also don’t understand how you post a thirst trap and want men to comment, but you then wear that same outfit outside and are mad when those same men comment. Like??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:38 PM
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That escalated quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:48 PM
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r/whenwomenrefuse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:53 PM
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I kinda disagree on the consent. Not all of these women are being taken advantage of or naive. They know the game. I just had a colleague at work that brought a woman over from SE Asia. They got married, had a son, got her citizenship and then promptly bounced.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:47 PM
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Lots of Gen Z Americans are complaining about the job market already, and you want to import millions more middle class workers? So that men can benefit? This may actually unite the left and right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:39 PM
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Are you spreading this 100 million across first world countries or just the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:17 PM
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I really want to know what the unnamed sub is. The morbid curiosity is killing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:13 PM
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I don’t think most women in the US would care beyond some tik tok idiots and their braindead takes. In general, I think undesirable men highly overestimate how much time women spend thinking about them. It’s practically zero. But there could be issues: What if the woman and the guy break up? What if the guy turns out to be abusive? What if their union doesn’t produce a child? Is there a timeframe? If this takes off then it fucks over the third world country. Lots of those countries have worse bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:55 PM
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I hate how a lot of feminists have just become insufferable holier than thou types. Kind of like preachy vegans. I have a friend that I’m actively avoiding because she is bitching about the patriarchy so much. It’s just like give it a rest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:42 PM
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Is emasculation largely a woman to man thing? Does it hurt less when it’s a man? Like say a man is stronger bigger and taller and says “look at this bitch boy” and everyone laughs. Does it hit worse when a woman laughs and says look at this bitch boy and everyone laughs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:48 AM
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It’s interesting to me that so many examples given are of women. Does it hurt less when a man emasculates you? I e seen many men call other men bitches. But all the examples are of women emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:26 AM
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Damn no wonder sexless men are so angry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:24 AM
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I have read a lot of good replies but this answer is the one that truly answered my question. It makes a lot of sense to me now to extend that to why some men get so angry that women don’t want to date them. Or why when some men get so mad when women say they don’t need a man. From what I’m reading you say, it is invalidating to everything you have ever been taught makes you worthy of being seen as a human. Some men can overcome it, but a lot can’t. Am I understanding this in the right way?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:16 PM
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Ok I think we are on the same page there. Totally agree. Thanks for replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:07 PM
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Thank you! Me too. Trying to get away from all the men bad women bad and actually try to understand each other
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:05 PM
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Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:00 PM
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I think this helps what I’m missing. I feel a human first, a black person second, and a woman a distant third. Men feel being a man as a strong first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:32 PM
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Yeah I agree he said that in a way that was much better at helping me understand than your comment. But, the thing is when someone calls me that it DOES feel personal. They aren’t just walking around calling everyone a slur they called ME a slur that is specific to my identity and my humanity. It’s the feeling it invokes that hurts. That somehow I’m of less worth than other people through no fault of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:23 PM
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Well, I can’t speak for LeBron James or other folks you may know. But I’m a black woman in the Midwest United States and can absolutely tell you it’s a powerful word for me and the majority of black Americans. Most of us still very much care, and very much have a visceral anger at being called that. There are numerous videos of a white person getting their lights punched out for saying it on this very app. Frankly on a post where I’m trying to understand something unique to a group I’m not a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:11 PM
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That shit would still be sitting in a box to this day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:24 PM
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I think another I can think of is how despondent women feel when they are unable to breastfeed. I had no problems breastfeeding, and thought nothing less of my friends who couldn’t for whatever reason. Never said anything other than hey fed is best. We are all moms. But i felt a distinct lack of self worth with my mom friends around something that is just up to chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:20 PM
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I’m starting to think that too. IMO this is where gender dynamics get interesting. I want to learn more of something I could not experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:13 PM
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Man people can be so shitty lol. I told a story on here where my ex told me I emasculated him because I bought a bookshelf online and built it myself after asking him to do it and he didn’t for weeks. Like? Tf you want me to do just let it stay undone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:10 PM
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Well all of those things a man can do to me. I would feel awful and embarrassed and ashamed. Your pussy isnt as tight as my ex. Berating or making fun of me around other people. Dismissing the fact that I work hard and make sacrifices by saying other men’s wives or your mother do all that and better. It hurts too, a lot. But there isn’t a special word for it. It’s the same action. So my question I guess is do we say “emasculation” because the specific hurt feels worse? Or is this just word not r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:08 PM
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Why did he date you in the first place 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:59 PM
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I don’t think that’s a fair thing to say, not all men who have felt emasculated have toxic masculinity. And not all emasculation happens from just women. Men can emasculate each other as well from what I’ve heard them say. Your take is kind of reductive and mean, frankly a bit surprising from a trans person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:55 PM
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I hope people don’t jump down my throat here, but from what you describe it is kind of how I feel when someone calls me the n word. It feels like a direct attack at my self worth, but it’s not necessarily something I can change? And it makes me enraged in a very unique way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:52 PM
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Ok this is kind of where I’m interested. Is that feeling more intense than say, other forms of humiliation? For an example. I have always been prided on how smart and capable I am. I had a really shitty performance review a few years back and was basically told: everyone around you is performing at a higher level. It made me feel small and ashamed and challenged everything I knew about myself. But there isn’t a SPECIFIC word for that. I have since worked my ass off to never be told that again. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:48 PM
0

Yes exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:40 PM
2

I just noticed your flair! lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:56 PM
4

It’s like this across the animal kingdom too. Look at the mating dances birds do for an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:45 PM
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I’m not big into erotic fiction but I can speak for sex toys. No man can physically make me orgasm as fast or as intensely as a wand. No man can reproduce the feeling of a clit sucker. It’s just not humanly possible. I love sex with my partner, but some times I just want to hit that spot for 45 seconds and go on about my day. No man alive can make me climax in 45 seconds. Just like no toy can bend me over and hold me after. Both have their places. And sometimes it’s super nice to have them at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:41 PM
0

Why would you want a relationship that isn’t beneficial in some way? Being with someone that doesn’t add value to your life just to say you’re with someone sounds miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:36 PM
3

Not all feminists are good people or participate in arguments in good faith. Some feminists just like some men and well frankly some people, are just argumentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:20 PM
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I have always interpreted a bang maid to be someone you don’t really care about talking to or spending time with, just someone that fucks and cleans up after you. It sounds like you are more so describing someone that cooks and cleans, but that you also have shared romance with. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, even if it’s not my personal desired relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:17 PM
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Yeah nothing is ever yall fault. So pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:08 AM
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That sounds awful. What a shitty generation of miserable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:57 AM
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I guess we have to agree to disagree. The Gen Z women online act like all men are just sick predators and the Gen Z men online act like all women are promiscuous whores. I fail to see how it’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:18 AM
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I just don’t get it. When I was coming up a lot of dudes would say “bros before hoes” which was derogatory for sure but damn at least they were friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:40 PM
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Man I really feel bad for Gen Z. It blows my mind that this is how yall talk about each other. How sad. Feels like us 35 and up got the last chopper out of nam 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:36 PM
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It’s HOW you voice the concern. In your example about the job you could say “the economy is really rough right now, companies are laying off at unprecedented rates. It’s probably a better idea to find something before you leave. I’m worried that you may not find something better as quickly, and it could make a bad situation worse” Kind of like when you voice frustration in dating you don’t want a woman to say “well tough luck get your money up” There is nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:43 PM
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Why don’t you guys stay friends after high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:19 PM
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I don’t agree or disagree but curious What do you propose the men should do? I see a lot of looksmaxxing, but not sure if thats helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:07 PM
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I get it. I feel the same way about dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:48 PM
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Comparing married life with small kids to slavery is a ridiculous assertion. Kids are really not nearly as hard as people make it out to be. Heck they go to bed at like 7:30 for a long time. They take a lot of naps. Raise your kids to understand rules, discipline them when necessary but slavery? It’s Especially not hard if you have chosen a competent partner. I think a lot of people think kids just constantly cry and have meltdowns, that’s not the case unless you have raised a brat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:22 PM
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I think both men and women severely underestimate the number of good partners in the world. Some of my friend’s husbands I would never date and vice versa. I think they are all good men, but not my type or theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:10 PM
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This is pretty much my relationship. We both cook, we both clean, we both do home repairs. Depending on how our bonuses pay out he makes more or I make more. He does not open doors, I’ve never heard of the elevator thing lol, and he doesn’t do the sidewalk thing. we both initiate sex. We both participate in child rearing. We are a team. I am madly in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:59 AM
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I don’t think I’m describing it well, but I have literally never seen a man say boys and women. But always men and girls. It’s not necessarily upsetting just maybe a weird language thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:34 PM
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It’s not upsetting per se, I just find the phrase “men and girls” strange. Like why not men and women? You also never see men say boys and women. Does that make sense? Maybe my tism flaring
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:33 PM
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Yall never seem to call men boys. It’s not as much a nitpick as a weird thing I’ve noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:39 PM
4

What exactly is there to celebrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:36 PM
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You sound like a hormone crazed teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:15 PM
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There are cultures where female babies are literally aborted for not being male. Entire countries where women have barely any rights. Cultures where when girls get their period they are sent away to sleep outside of the house. Cultures where when a woman is raped she can be jailed. Please bffr
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:14 PM
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It’s truly mind blowing how jealous of women some men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:10 PM
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Life isn’t fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:53 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:14 PM
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For me, it’s only a turn off if that’s the ONLY thing he’s interested in. If it’s a hobby he enjoys cool, but if this all he does yeah I’m not into that. But, it’s kind of the same way with men and women. If you meet a woman and she’s only into tik tok, makeup and love island, it’s a turn off. But if she does it sometimes it’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:19 PM
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It’s not about adult problems. My kids are middle schoolers, so maybe you are thinking younger kids? An example: my eldest always skated by with school. Never had to try to succeed. She got to middle school and struggled with math. I didn’t lie to her and say well you’re doing great making a D. That’s fine, you will be ok, I told her about how I had the same thing happen to me in middle school, and I had to learn that now it takes work and discipline as you grow up. You have to work at this. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:10 PM
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Yes you reward kids for being good. But you don’t lie to them about life either. My children aren’t good because they fear me, they are good because they respect me and their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:53 PM
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Girl, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:37 PM
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You get a kid to be “good” by not lying to them but teaching them about the world. Talk to them. Tell them about your struggles and experiences and prepare them for becoming adults. There is a balance between preserving their childhood and not setting them up for failure. Are you a parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:25 PM
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Yeah most things in life don’t come easily. Teaching my middle schoolers this right now without breaking their spirit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:18 PM
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It should be out of the ordinary because it’s lazy parenting. But I suppose lazy parenting isn’t out of the ordinary which is an entirely different discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:17 PM
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I’ve said this before but a lot of the problem stems from these parents lying to their sons. They are the ones that sold them: just be nice and kind and you will get a woman. Their moms told them how kind and smart they were and that they would be rewarded for it. Instead of telling them: life isn’t fair. Being a good person isn’t a key to unlocking success in life. I’m happy a lot of them are learning it now, and to an extent I can understand the frustration. I think where women get annoyed is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:17 PM
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Thanks for answering!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:09 PM
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I’m not triggered, it just doesn’t make a lot of sense. If you try to avoid interacting with women irl, then why talk to them online?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:03 PM
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Why not extend that to online?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:53 PM
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If women are so awful, why don’t you just leave them alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:25 PM
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So what is true loneliness? Would you become a woman if you had the choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:12 PM
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I think you have enough for your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:26 AM
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Well I have tons of examples, it’s pretty much the essence or the glue of what holds relationships together. The first time my ex boyfriend met my extended family is an awesome memory. The first time my husband and I had sex is one of our fondest memories. My cousin and her husband both got horrific food poisoning when dating and were vomiting and pooping in a tiny hotel bathroom and the way they describe the scene is hilarious. The moments like this are what relationships are made of, not the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:12 PM
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I don’t understand why what she said made you uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:46 PM
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Lmao. But like seriously, how do they come up with this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:42 PM
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One time my husband and I got caught in a massive downpour after going to a free outdoor concert. We got absolutely soaked, we still laugh about it to this day. I think back on it fondly sometimes when I miss him. Is this what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:38 PM
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Omg you’re so right! I can’t believe how short sighted I was
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:10 AM
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Unfortunately it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:08 AM
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I would highly prefer to be left alone than to have losers bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:48 PM
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Who told yall you are entitled to attention from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:09 PM
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What facts and data show that the crime rate is skyrocketing? Maybe you aren’t old enough to have lived in the 90s but today is a cakewalk compared to then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:57 PM
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I’m speaking from just my experience, but the men who I have casually hooked up with have all gotten butthurt that I didn’t want to pursue something more. I had a guy say “so you can come on my face and I cant even take you on a date tomorrow?” I had another say “you used me” Men are not a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:11 PM
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Crime rates are not skyrocketing they are falling Where have police had been defunded post George Floyd they are largely back to prior levels. Women like men who are confident, charismatic, and good looking. You skipped over all the other professions I named , Have you ever spoken to a teacher? Particularly inner city teachers are some of the only stable influences poor kids have I don’t think we agree on the meaning of socialized, and also most men end up in a relationship. You aren’t describin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:41 PM
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Not a gotcha at all. We both agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:06 PM
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Absolutely. Now do the same for short men, broke men, and unattractive men and we may be making some headway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:49 PM
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We may be from different cultures then. Where I’m from calling a grown man a boy is seen as highly disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:46 PM
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Would you call an elderly man a boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:36 PM
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It really is weird how often yall say men and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:06 PM
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Crime rates are not rising they are falling, and still men commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Women overwhelmingly dominate caring fields that help society : teachers, daycare, social work, nursing, non profit work The birth rate has been falling for decades since the rise of the Industrial Revolution. Even now women are risking death to make babies. There are men on this very sub I have read say if I don’t get a family and wife I refuse to contribute to society. But women are selfish an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:55 PM
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Lmao he got in his broke feelings 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:20 AM
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What country do you live in? Sounds like a dream
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:26 PM
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Omg yes. There is a whole faction of men that don’t believe straight women are straight because female sexuality doesn’t mirror male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:45 PM
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Yes and don’t get butthurt when that *thing* you always did that all women liked doesn’t apply to this particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:42 PM
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I just said a variation of this to my therapist!!! I want to go back and shake myself! Like girrrrl nooooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:39 PM
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A casual partner I don’t know. Yes. A partner in a relationship no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:04 PM
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Women need to learn how to make THEMSELVES orgasm instead of relying on their partner to make them orgasm. Hop on that D and go to town and get yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:20 PM
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Not really. Toys do a pretty great job of consistently providing orgasms. Why waste time with casual sex risking stds, pregnancy, or just having a lackluster time when you can get off every time by yourself with no risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:43 PM
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The problem with assertions like this is men do the same things. It’s not a gendered issue. I have a guy friend right now that is dating and he’s been seeing this woman for a few months. It’s incredibly obvious to our friend group that they aren’t compatible in lifestyle, but instead of going to find someone else he keeps trying to force this. No intent, just “vibes”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:36 PM
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Did you just compare pregnancy to a cold?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:36 PM
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A lot of lesbian relationships still have a masc/femme aspect. I don’t know the answer., but I wonder if the women who date masc lesbians feel the same way as heterosexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:54 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:24 PM
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If you have to ask this question your parents have failed you. Go ask this same question to your mom and see what she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:59 PM
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I think what you are describing is past the stage of what I’m describing. The first couple dates are far removed from pregnancy, fertility etc. You are just getting to know someone. The makeup thing, I find baffling. I rarely wear makeup, and never use filters. My career is fine. In fact, I have had much more success with male mangers than female managers. Maybe because I work remotely though, there isn’t as much pressure on looks, and it sometimes comes off as vapid when you see women sitting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:37 PM
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He needs to be on a list somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:26 PM
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https://sbaproject.org/what-were-you-wearing/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:55 PM
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I’m not sure I follow how you got that from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:33 AM
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What makes them more attractive than you is likely they are either more handsome, more charismatic, wealthier, or taller. Or all of the above. Same reason instagram girlies get more attention from men than I do. They are prettier, in better shape, younger, and more willing to put themselves out there. A lot of humans are shallow. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:10 PM
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I think a dna test for some random you knocked up, yeah. For your wife though? A lot of couples don’t just have a baby naturally. When you’re actively trying, you are usually tracking ovulation, having a lot of sex during ovulation and then wait for two weeks to see if it worked. It can be a very anxiety inducing time, and the longer it goes on the less fun it is. Imagine going through such a vulnerable time and the person you trust the most: your husband, your protector, the person you have cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:29 PM
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Women don’t typically need sex in the way men do. I think a large amount of women would just prefer to be sexless if they don’t have access to men they desire. For a lot of women, any sex is not always better than no sex. Not when we have toys they can make us climax in 2 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:57 PM
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In my experience they just have been holding so much in for so long it comes out like a fire hose blast to your face. I ask if you are ok because you seem stressed. Then, The snot crying and holding on to my legs while you sob that you can never be the man your father was and then two minutes later trying to feel me up for sex can just be a bit.. jarring. Personal anecdote btw obligatory not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:10 AM
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Oh man your flair though. Do you want me to help or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:03 AM
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Well yes, fewer people are being married. But still most people end up married. Even if that is a smaller percentage than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:25 PM
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The best way I can describe it in a way that will make sense to men is: Men tend to want a woman that needs them, but they don’t want a woman that is NEEDY. Women tend to want a man who is emotionally open, but not a blubbering mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:28 PM
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This! It’s so sad that these men can’t understand that some women genuinely LIKE their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:28 PM
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Why would that bring me relief? I don’t know you, we may not even live on the same continent. It does make me feel empathy though. That’s an incredibly hard way to live and I can understand why it’s frustrating and leads to anger and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:29 PM
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I really want to experience what yall think sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:21 PM
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I love and do have frequent sex with my husband. Once a week is not what I would consider frequent sex, that’s kind of a bare minimum, ring the alarm something is wrong in our house. If it were legally mandated no I wouldn’t legally marry him or anyone else. I would be a forever girlfriend. That’s more about my distrust of the government than my love of him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:15 PM
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My guy you refer to women as cum collectors and then in the same breath talk about bullies. What is your relationship with women that you don’t want to fuck, like your mother your aunts your cousins your siblings your coworkers teachers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:28 PM
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Were the men your friends or did they judge and bully you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:25 PM
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Most people in the US men and women are fat, but most men and women end up eventually with someone. I would say seeing fat couples together is very much the norm where I live, but maybe I live somewhere with lots of fats. They seem happy, or at least not any less happy than fit couples. They already have a baked in hobby together. Pun intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:21 PM
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I think we are saying the same thing differently worded in the first half. Where I disagree is here: Usually if you love someone… As someone who lives in a nice suburb, works in a white collar field, and talks to lots of couples, I can assure you a lot of these people do not equate sexual desire and wanting to have children with a man with loving them. A lot of them don’t even equate respect with love. It’s more “this is what is expected of me”. A lot of folks just settle for someone good on pap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:05 PM
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But not all men want love. Some men want love sure, but a lot just want to feel respected by men and society for being married, sexually desired and validated by most women, and have one or multiple woman that will bear their children. This was especially common not even 30 years ago. I’ve heard men say “feed me, fuck me, leave me alone”. That doesn’t suggest they want love or even really know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:41 PM
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This!! Not to mention a white woman lying could get black men and boys publicly executed in a number of horrific ways. I don’t think most black men or women had any delusions that women were all virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:24 PM
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I honestly blame a lot of Gen X and elder millennial parents. I’m a parent to middle school aged kids. I’m teaching them now “life isn’t fair”. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Success in life is a combination of working hard and frankly dumb luck. You win some you lose some. You know, those adages. It feels these parents have raised a generation of confused sons who thought “well if I follow the rules everything will work out.” I wish life worked that way, but it doesn’t. And it’s be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:14 PM
2

It could be that modern women are having more sex today than modern men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:51 PM
2

Is it that you want female music to be less sexual? Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:48 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:01 PM
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I was sexually assaulted by a really unattractive woman. She went on to assault several other kids in my neighborhood until one of us was brave enough to tell our parents. The person who helped me through that trauma was a man. Women are not inherently good and men are not inherently bad. I say this gently, It sounds like you need help far beyond what an online message board can provide. Please find a therapist that can help you. Online comments can not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:41 AM
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I think offended dude was definitely in category 1 Boyfriend was in category 2
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:04 AM
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Thank you! He is really such a great guy, and he works so hard for us but you’re absolutely right. It’s a really hard thing to break because it comes from not only his learned conditioning but societal pressure. I know he appreciates me affirming him and especially that I eagerly initiate intimacy but he just feels kinda awkward and weird hearing it in words. We are working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:08 AM
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It’s funny my husband is like this. I can tell him I love him and admire him and I’m proud of him being a great dad and husband and he just doesn’t really care or seems almost annoyed. Let me tell him I got a flat tire and he comes running in and feels like he’s the fucking man. Sex after is always off the charts. I don’t understand it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:39 AM
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That’s interesting. I think you should hit up the woman down thread that pretends to want to pay. I can be a Reddit matchmaker??!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:31 AM
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But to offer not in earnest is lying. What kind of relationship begins with a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:04 AM
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So it’s kind of like a test? If you’re committed to this type of arrangement, then why not be upfront and honest instead of playing games? Surely, you’re more likely to meet the type of man you actually want by not pretending?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:34 PM
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Why even offer to split then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:03 PM
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Ah the old “you can’t fire me I quit”. The crazy thing is I thought everything was going great and was absolutely ready to go back to his place. People are just complex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:53 PM
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Absolutely agree. It’s always nice to have a nice exchange on this crazy app lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:50 PM
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Ok I think we agree then. My first date actually with my husband was to an exhibit at an art museum that was free but an exhibit I had been dying to see. We walked there in our very walkable city, and then got ice cream at a super cute little shop. The chemistry was off the charts, his genuine interest and enthusiasm of the art and the way he led the whole thing was so damn sexy. I was just smitten. On the other hand I’ve had dates with men that spent $200 plus at some boring steakhouse and it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:11 PM
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Instead of trying to impress, why don’t you just take it as an opportunity to get to know someone? Would take a lot of pressure off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:02 PM
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That’s a fair answer. It seems likely down to how different people view masculinity, protection and provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:59 PM
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Ohhh ok I did misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:47 PM
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Oddly enough I didn’t meet my eventual partner through OLD either we connected through mutual friends. The two guys I mentioned were OLD though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:41 PM
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You say you like to see how he is with money. I do too, but in a does he make wise financial decisions way. Unless I misread and you are saying the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:36 PM
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What’s wrong with walking? I don’t mean like down a random suburban street, like a pretty park or somewhere scenic. You get to talk, be in nature, see how he treats other people on a trail etc. And I like ice cream. A lot. Coffee too. You don’t like ice cream or coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:26 PM
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No, that’s not the case, for me at least. Particularly for a first date I think of it more as “we are putting in equal interest and equal financial stake in seeing if we are compatible”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:23 PM
1

Well in the situation I’m describing, these two types of people aren’t connecting and are resentful. Good point on the flip side though, gives me something to chew on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:18 PM
1

It’s funny because I agree, but for the opposite reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:12 PM
1

Oh that makes sense. Maybe he saw it as a rejection of sex. Not my intention but I’m sure he’s likely happily married by now so no harm no foul. It’s what dating is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:09 PM
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I wouldn’t say that. I actually cared about him and the way his finances were he needed to save much more money and spend it somewhere more productive like beefing up his retirements or saving for a rainy day. It’s not sexy to be financially irresponsible, even if it works in my favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:06 PM
5

I love a good southern US reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:59 PM
2

Do you feel the same way about the white women who go to the Gambia?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:35 PM
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We in here trying to fight the good fight sis 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:33 PM
6

I think yall tend to equate “average men” with “losers with no social skills” average men do just fine in hostels. I’ve seen them with my own eyes. Something you haven’t done. Take the trip you want to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:32 PM
6

Wait so you have never done this and are telling people who have their experiences are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:10 PM
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I think a lot of men on Reddit have poor social skills, and then extrapolate that to most average men. Men I know irl who are incredibly average have no problem grabbing a pint and talking shit about whatever sports game is currently playing. I’ve seen it as a common thing when I travel with my husband. Random men just will be like hey bro did you catch the game? Then they are off to the races.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:05 PM
5

Maybe she just “chose better”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:02 PM
3

Men not wanting to date overweight women is not discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:53 PM
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Because being gay isn’t a bad thing or anything to be offended by. I have very short natural hair, I don’t do my nails or dress in a girly way. But I’m straight as can be. A lot of lesbians assume I’m a lesbian, it isn’t offensive because being a lesbian isn’t something to be offended by. I just politely tell them no I’m straight. most go on about their way. Some get angry. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:15 PM
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Your responses to not just me, but to other people on this thread come off not so much like you are wanting to engage in conversation, but that you want to “win” an argument that you have already decided the answer to. You come across as someone who has been shamed and are angry about it. In my experience, when someone behaves in that manner it comes from profound hurt and frustration leading to anger. I could be well off base, I don’t know you of course. But I did google femboys, as you suggest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:06 PM
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Well of course it does, but I’m a bit hesitant to just google it and get a version of something that may not be totally accurate or accurate to you. Particularly when it comes to queer issues, I would much rather hear from the person themselves than to google and come up with my own interpretation. Your responses suggest you are dealing with a lot of hurt and anger, and I would hate to “just google” and say something completely off the mark and/or offensive. It’s ok if you don’t want to share th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:11 PM
7

That last line needs to be pinned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:32 PM
10

I’m auntie age, what is a femboy? Or better, what does it mean for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:30 PM
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I can assure you many women that work as bedside nurses, cnas, social workers, and inner city school teachers do not have soft jobs. Not to mention the working poor: like those in food service and retail. I’m sure a fair number of them hate their jobs too. What an absurd suburban rich kid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:09 AM
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I have straight male friends and my husband has straight female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:44 PM
3

Maybe we just have a different view of the word dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:02 PM
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Because not wanting to date or fuck someone doesn’t mean I think they are dogshit. It means I don’t want to date or fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:47 PM
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I have an ex friend that desperately needs to decenter men. Her only motivation in life is men and what they think and if they will love her. As much as you think men would love this they reject her over and over and she gets more and more desperate and clingy. It’s hard to watch. If she would decenter men, find who she is, and live that life the men she so desperately wants would find her. It’s tragic. I stopped being her friend because I just couldn’t watch it anymore. Centering the other gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:24 PM
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What gender role did I reinforce? I said if women don’t like you go find joy in life. And I don’t know what a femboy is but if you like it I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:57 PM
0

I think we do! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:53 PM
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I’d rather be pumped and dumped than marry some beta and have to raise his beta offspring. Spend my holidays with his frumpy parents that raised their beta son. Shudder
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:07 PM
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It’s not an optimal alternative but it’s better than doing nothing but rotting. Maybe it’s not not badminton or potting lol. Maybe it’s scuba diving, maybe it’s rally racing, maybe it’s community organizing, heck idk. It doesn’t have to be something lame. All I’m saying is the women aren’t coming. Yes, that sucks and it’s heartbreaking. But you have to move on with it. No it isn’t easy to do, yes it’s gonna hurt but the alternative is worse To spend the next 60 years of your life lonely and bitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:58 PM
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And I find it’s sad that there are selfish people like you that want to go back to something women fought to get out of because it benefits you. None of that matters though, it’s still better to find your joy in life than to live a whole life miserable. But you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:49 PM
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Sounds kinda codependent. I have a spouse, but I have experiences that give my life meaning that have nothing to do with him. As does he. A partner should add to your life not become it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:38 PM
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Lmao dog shit is a bit dramatic. But yeah women do need to stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:26 PM
5

You don’t think men would do the same if it were reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:24 PM
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If women don’t desire these men, why would them dropping out of dating bother them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:15 PM
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Ugh similar story for my dad too. Mom worked full time, cooked all the meals, cleaned the house alone, did all the child rearing. He worked and cheated. She has never remarried and lives a fun life with her friends and sisters. He remarried a doormat and now she’s fed up and leaving. Neither me nor my sister will be a caretaker for him in his old age, and he is gonna die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:12 PM
2

When will this realization happen? We are tired of waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:51 PM
2

I think a lot of women would say Keanu Reeves. If you remove the political element most people would agree Barack Obama is charismatic and charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:07 PM
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What did you plan to do with this wife and family if not have “experiences”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:52 AM
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I’m not saying it doesn’t matter, I’m saying to choose to then have no life at all is tragic and frankly pathetic and it is. Y’all aren’t interested in ANYTHING ELSE?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:49 AM
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growing number of men are unable to attract partners despite doing everything society tells them to do—education, career, fitness, self-improvement—what exactly is the endgame? They elites will start a war to get rid of excess men like they always do. Accept dying alone without ever experiencing love, marriage, or sex? Well… yes. There is not someone for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:34 PM
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I can jump in here. I’m speaking for hetero women but I suppose a “not all” disclaimer is also needed . But we tend to speak on generalities on this sub. Woman to woman, what do you disagree with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:14 AM
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I think because we have been socialized to avoid conflict. But luckily I don’t gaf and will keep it real with yall
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:10 AM
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I’m not sure that’s true for a lot of men. They seem to think if they are just nice then a hot woman will fall in their lap
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:12 AM
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Honestly, I’m just tired of seeing men be so confused and women lying to them. I don’t like being the dream killer , but it’s so hard to watch so many men be utterly confused
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:38 AM
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The answer you’re looking for is women like attention from attractive men. We generally do not like attention from unattractive men unless we are making money off them. If you don’t know which designation you are, you are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:16 AM
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The women who are saying “don’t objectify me” are largely not the same women that post provocative photos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:40 AM
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That’s so incredibly heart breaking. There isn’t just one way to be happy in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:34 AM
1

Wow why did you respond with such vitriol?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:32 AM
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Let’s say this is true. Ok life is unfair. Double standards exist. How are you going to enjoy this one life you have? You gonna spend it being mad? The one life you have???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:35 PM
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It’s not even just that, it’s mainly industrialism. Birth rates have been declining for decades with the move from a less agrarian society. Both men and women didn’t want all them damn kids back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:09 PM
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I think the crux of it is this: Chads run the world. If you think women hate you, Chads hate you more. And if too many of yall rise up the Chad leaders of governments will concoct a war to get rid of you. Women didn’t institute the draft, women don’t tell you to not get an education, women don’t tell you to keep approaching when we don’t like it. What does Chad tell you? This is what we mean when we say it isn’t feminism that’s hurting you, it’s the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:06 PM
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It will never stop blowing my mind that some men will not pursue education, internal goals, or living a fulfilling life bc women won’t fuck them. This world we live in is so huge and expansive and there are so many things to do and see and learn and try and experience. But you’re just gonna..be a NEET in this one life you have? Bc women don’t want to have sex with you? It sounds so incredibly short sighted and insane to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:55 PM
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Your wife is a lucky woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:20 PM
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I told my ex he was acting like a simp years ago and he is still furious to this day. And sadly, still a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:47 PM
1

Curious what things have you settled for in your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:43 PM
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I doubt it’s easily possible, but Seems better than endless rumination
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:22 PM
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Men don’t know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:09 PM
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It’s pretty easy to stop bothering people that don’t want to be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:52 PM
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I really wish yall would just leave women alone and focus on other stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:23 AM
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It’s all of it together. Nothing about the scenario I described makes that risk worth it, even if it’s small. Maybe I’m a doomer. I’ll take that over being 50 with no skills to enter the workforce after being left, no matter how small the risk is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:52 PM
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I think a really nice exercise for you would be to ask the number of women you know well irl (friends, siblings, relatives etc has it ever happened to them. It’s hardly a rare occurrence. It’s especially is scary when you are 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:10 PM
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Nature can be cruel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:59 PM
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Yes I hear what you’re saying, but again do you really think on a mass scale the men in these countries are just going to allow the women to do this? The governments in the poorer countries are gonna be like ok sounds good? Trying the way it is now and having a government funded incentive to do so are vastly different. Sounds dangerous and would lead to global instability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:55 PM
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Canada has a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:46 PM
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There are a lot of us. The problem is we usually get snapped up quick, and the ones who believe otherwise are the most vocal. Especially on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:41 PM
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But wouldn’t that only improve first world birth rates? It would be something of a seesaw. I don’t see the men in those countries just being ok with that. I would wager a lot more femicide of women that choose that option and a lot more angry, lonely men in poor countries. A large global population of angry lonely men doesn’t sound like a good move.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:35 PM
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A two tiered tax system would disproportionately impact low income child free people. Also I’m not sure how that works what if you are infertile or had a failed IVF. Or god forbid lost a child. Or were a lonely guy who never managed to find someone to procreate with. Not everyone who is childless is so voluntarily, seems like f u from the government to folks already dealt a shit hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:30 PM
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Maybe this society has come to its natural end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:23 PM
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What questions do they ask? I kind of would expect that at a singles event, not so much a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:08 PM
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And the kids, and their social calendar, and their extended family obligations. All while maintaining your friendships, your extended family, your mental health, and your looks bc how dare you get fat. AND THEN, after 20 years he can leave you for a new model. Who would WANT that??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:02 PM
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That sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:57 PM
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If it takes a ton of effort to get to know someone, maybe attraction isn’t there. That getting to know you phase is usually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:49 PM
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Lmao, my bad bro you right. Just because it’s not something I personally like doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of women that do. I think I should rephrase it as, most women don’t like unattractive men approaching them. I fail to see how this ruined cold approaching though. It wasn’t working for unattractive guys and women didn’t like it. Sounds like a win win for all? Less rejection for unattractive men and less annoyance from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:33 PM
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Do those women have no male children?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:12 PM
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Most?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:01 PM
8

In what ways? I’ve never received welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:17 PM
6

How can we ruin something we never liked?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:33 PM
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What things are you hoping to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:32 AM
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Well men tend to do the same thing. It’s not soley a trait of women I have known men that are/do Gold diggers Monkey branchers Social media addicts Only date women their boys think are pretty Baby trappers Have Daddy issues But these are generally female coded
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:31 PM
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Well just because the majority don’t doesn’t mean all don’t. Kind of the theme of this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:26 PM
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What is being 6’4 like? Sounds back achey.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:20 PM
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I love this! Could be a point for point of how I value my man, except he is average height and also frugal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:49 PM
2

How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:45 PM
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I think you have your last sentence backwards for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:17 PM
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I think I can answer your last question, I’m not sure about the first two. Women fuck men if they don’t do everything they want because they do SOMETHING that is valuable to THAT particular woman. That SOMETHING is not the same for all women. For example, I have a friend who right now is dating a guy who is objectively an asshole to her. I asked her why, and she said “because he’s hot and the dick is good” I dated a guy years ago that had no friends. I preach the importance of having friends, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:34 PM
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I know obviously men like you exist, but it seems rare for physical touch to be fourth, I think that’s cool! What is your first?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:28 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if yall actually see men as human beings and not dogs to be trained. I have sex with my partner because I love, admire, respect, and most importantly lust after him. Not because he washed the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:34 PM
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I don’t think we do, but it’s kind of heartbreaking how few women seem to not be like this. I feel sorry for their husbands that can only have sex once a week if and only if the house is spotless, and she has had a perfectly non stressful day, and he’s done a sufficient amount of making her “relaxed”, and and and and Then after all those conditions are met he might get some starfish sex. What a brutal way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 PM
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Same here!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:42 PM
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I’m a woman and I love sex and don’t like non affectionate touching really like cuddling and holding hands. People like different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:41 PM
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Why on earth are yall so stressed. Is this a frequent thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:40 PM
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Sex only once a week is a nightmare scenario for me. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:36 PM
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Wow I learn new terms every day lol thanks for explaining
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:49 PM
1

That makes sense. I didn’t realize men would even care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:38 PM
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It’s all good. Wanted to explain why I didn’t engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:51 PM
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I can certainly empathize, but I tagged this post question for men. So while I can understand your situation I’m really looking more for answers from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:58 PM
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Thanks for asking for clarification, happy to answer. The juxtaposition I’m referring to is growing up around mostly married adults who had no hardship getting married and then seeing modern dating issue line a wtf this isn’t right.? Moment .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:55 PM
5

What is a stem beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:20 PM
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Ok this is an answer I was looking for. Do you think this wild juxtaposition is leading to male frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:19 PM
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If my current relationship fails I’m gonna be the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:10 PM
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That’s interesting, and why I ask questions like these. So from my perspective, and I’ll just come out and say I’m African American and our households are largely single mothers. So I never saw a man or woman acknowledging having a single mom as a negative, just kind of a thing. I don’t want to put words in your mouth but what I’m interpreting is you feel men are ashamed of having single mothers or divorced parents and wouldn’t readily admit it? Is it because I’m a woman or just in general? Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:06 PM
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Ok I was with you for a bit but I think you’ve either jumped the shark or misread my intent. I’m curious because I’ve never had that expectation, and neither have most folks I grew up with. It would help me understand the whiplash so many seem to feel if they grew up seeing this as a normal development that they lost out on. Rather than just, entitlement. I also am raising suburban children and am noticing just how normalized married two parent households are to them. I’m in no way saying you su…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:54 PM
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I feel positive about my parentage even though they are divorced. I don’t see it as something to be ashamed of, just a fact. It’s an interesting point though, and something I frankly hadn’t considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:46 PM
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I thought it would attract men from both? I started out by saying I’m not from one. Why do you think it would only attract one side?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:38 PM
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Yes. Gay men are still men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:00 PM
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“A life outside of chasing female validation” is soooo true omg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:41 PM
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Have you ever been in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:10 PM
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I’ll bite. I think sexuality is very fluid for both men and women, but women are less ostracized for being attracted to their own gender than men are. My hypothesis is that there are many more bisexual men than we think. Most will not admit it out loud or even to themselves. Therefore it seems women’s sexuality is different, but it isn’t, it just isn’t repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:07 PM
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I have male friends irl and I don’t bring my problems to her and don’t want to hear about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:26 PM
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They are lying to you. Don’t open up. Nobody wants to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:25 PM
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No. It’s that we don’t want to hear men bitch. Just like men have been socialized to not bitch, we have been socialized to not listen to men bitch. It does nothing but make already unattractive men more unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:05 PM
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Well I’m a black woman. My parents grew up in Jim Crow South not being able to access education, healthcare, or equal opportunities. I still feel the same way as does my dad. To compare your struggle with not getting laid to the real fear of being murdered for your skin color is frankly insulting and ridiculous. I would show this to my dad if it wouldn’t piss him off so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:17 PM
5

This was a great response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:25 PM
7

In what way would could women make things fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:37 PM
2

?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:09 PM
0

This should be a whole thread whew the truth in all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:40 PM
5

Why are women bad just because they don’t want to date unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:39 PM
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If women en masse just came out and admitted this, can you see how it might become dangerous? Men aren’t just gonna say oh ok thanks I’ll go mind my business now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:38 PM
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As someone told me on a thread where I asked a similar question: Bc testosterone. Also because male animals and female animals express sexuality differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:27 PM
1

I’m clearly on the wrong side of Tik tok 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:24 PM
1

Usually because I’m both horny and I like him as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:18 PM
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This is not universally true at all. I live somewhere with lots of naturally blonde haired men and they are not the most the desired. I also know a ton of women that don’t date white men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:12 PM
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A therapist can be a good outlet for venting, but you said outside of that. I would say friends, siblings, a pastor figure if you are into that? Unfortunately I don’t have great advice. Sometimes things just suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:02 PM
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This just made me bust out laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:35 PM
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I think because to us it comes off as whining, and women may lie to you about this but the truth is nobody wants to listen to a man whine. Especially not a man you don’t know. That’s not fair but it’s the truth. I don’t understand why these men seek empathy from women specifically. Wouldn’t other men understand and be empathetic more so? Why not vent to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:32 PM
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She needs to leave and watch him marry someone else within a year. He’s looking for another option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:45 PM
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Please don’t drop out of school to be a gangster. I’m a black woman who got a degree and I know of plenty of us who got caught in the gangster trap. They are dead or in jail. It’s not worth it all. I’ve made far more money being an upstanding member of society. That said, women on the whole are just not as interested in men as men are in women. It’s not your fault. Does the city you live in have any clubs for young professionals? I know a lot of people who have met their person through those. Pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:21 PM
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Be the change you want to see
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:30 PM
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When you find your unicorn you hold on to her tight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:04 PM
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Both of my fuck buddies were husband material. They didn’t want to marry me and I didn’t them, (early twenties) but we enjoyed each others company and liked fucking. We all eventually got married to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:17 PM
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Just leave now. You are on the clock and you aren’t compatible. Why wait another six months? You know it’s over.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:53 PM
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A lot of men are asking women to do just that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:49 PM
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Why don’t you stop asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:12 PM
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How do “females” know what guys look like on a Reddit post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:44 PM
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Ah females and men. But to answer it’s because women have largely been socialized to be agreeable and conflict avoidant. We assume you will figure it out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:20 PM
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Why if all signs point to you being unattractive do you need a woman to tell you? I’m sure most men know what attractive men look like. Do you look like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:13 PM
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Yeah and it sucked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:08 PM
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Yes I think we are saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:42 PM
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I’m a woman. I 100 percent agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:04 PM
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I think men and women can frame loneliness differently. There was a period in my life where I was incredibly lonely. I went out and made more friends and it changed my life. I never really considered hopping into a relationship as a fix. But, and this isn’t to say women are right and men are wrong, I think men are more likely to see a relationship as a loneliness cure rather than expanding their social circle and adding friends. They tend to describe loneliness more as a lack of a sexual relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:00 PM
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Or maybe, she just enjoys sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:42 PM
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When I was a kid they told me Santa Claus and the Easter bunny were real. Does that make it true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:59 PM
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I think it’s easier to understand in these terms.: There was a HYPOTHESIS that if men do these things then women would be more willing to commit. That has not proven to be true, just like many hypotheses fail. There are likely a number of variables that answer why, but we may never have a definitive answer. Some COULD be: declining religiosity and pressure to pair up, declining interest in motherhood, Reduced stigma around sex toys and masturbation, Growing up seeing unhappy marriages, Removal o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:55 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:40 PM
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Why does it bother yall so much? You don’t want the mediocre women so what is the big deal if they are hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:38 PM
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I think a lot of men seem to not understand the concept of being happy being single. No not all women are chasing Chad, they are just happy alone. It’s like a foreign concept to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:31 PM
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This idea actually ended up being a big part of why my last relationship ended. I own a home in a very safe neighborhood and I made about twice as much as my ex. He kept saying I feel like you don’t need me, and I said well I don’t but I WANT you for you! Him: but I’m suppose to protect and provide for you. Me: I never told you that, I’m not with you for what you do but for who you are. Rinse and repeat until I just eventually left out of annoyance (among other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:00 PM
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I sure hope so. Maybe because I wasn’t raised in an environment with a lot of marriages, but I never heard anyone tell boys they need to protect and provide. It’s a term I just started hearing maybe in the last five years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:31 PM
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Did your parents teach you that your only role in life was to find a woman and have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:56 PM
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Damn that sounds depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:25 PM
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I don’t understand but you and I have had several back and forths and always enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:36 PM
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I’m convinced sex has to be way better feeling for men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:38 PM
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Makes sense. I struggle so hard with competitive people lol. When I decline to participate it’s like ohhh you must be scared I’m gonna beat you. Like no, I just don’t care about beating you at something. It does nothing for me. I’ve always gravitated to sports where you beat your own personal best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:32 PM
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I think you may be, and likely happier and healthier for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:11 PM
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Thanks for sharing that. Very vulnerable and also informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:56 PM
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Well unfortunately I can’t tell you because I am one of those on the spectrum women that doesn’t get it either. It’s primarily why I asked this question, not for attention but because I genuinely don’t understand. I can speak to the anger at going outside of the groupthink though. Whew
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:50 PM
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Aww you just got mansplained! Welcome to the sisterhood lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:38 PM
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This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:34 PM
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It’s surprising because it’s the SOLE reason. like female attention is that prized that some guys structure their entire lives and hobbies around it is wild. I also don’t find competing to be fun so there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:12 PM
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Honestly it’s my almost 70 year old mom, lol but I think it’s because she is slim and she doesn’t have any wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:09 PM
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I guess me telling you that you’re a great writer would not have the intended effect hahah but you are. That was awesome and really answered the question. I hope you find it again!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:48 PM
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I have heard of these women but I haven’t met any. My mom is 69 and still gets men her age trying to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:18 PM
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I’m an elder millennial. I’m currently in a relationship so not sexless now, but maybe a year or two a while back. But I still didn’t crave male attention or even sex, I just focused on loving myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:16 PM
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The thing I’ve noticed though, and I could be wrong is men still seem to love female attention even when in a relationship or marriage. They may not necessarily cheat but even waitresses and baristas report married men behaving thirstily for a crumb of female attention. That’s not to mention places like hooters, strip clubs, married men paying only fans chicks to flatter them. It’s just wild to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:14 PM
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Well yes and no. The most attention I’ve gotten is from men I don’t find desirable for one reason or another. So I suppose I could get romantic attention and sex from men but I don’t find value or self worth through it. Certainly not enough to make it a focus in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:39 PM
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Even if they are ugly or fat or old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:28 PM
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I get the craving for sex, I actually have a fairly high libido. But I only really want attention and validation from MY man. Not men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:25 PM
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No actually this was incredibly enlightening! It’s exactly what I was looking to understand and very well written :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:23 PM
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Do you think you are an anomaly? Or do you have an insight on maybe formative experiences that led to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:17 PM
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I have this same experience as have many women I’ve known. The flip side is true as well, not all conventionally attractive successful men are jerks or arrogant or cheaters. People are people, some good some bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:57 PM
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Why does it bother you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:50 PM
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Is this surprising or revelatory for men? You say it as if it’s some kind of gotcha? Who wants undesirable men to lust after or hit on them? It actively makes me feel worse than just being left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:38 PM
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OP have you ever been in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:50 PM
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I could have written this bar for bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:42 PM
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Being a man sounds complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:34 PM
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Why is the focus on women disrespecting you and not “don’t let anyone disrespect you”. It’s strangely worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:52 PM
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My friend’s kid is in scouts and she’s 9. She has been for a year or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:17 PM
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I get so confused about the scouts outrage. You’re talking about children not men and women. If young boys spend with young girls say scout age, they learn that girls are just people too at an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:55 PM
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Ugh I’m sorry. It’s never ok male or female to do that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:34 PM
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That’s not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:59 PM
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Good for you it’s scary out here. My ex tried to baby trap me after I consistently told him I didn’t want a baby. I guess he thought he would “change my mind” Nah buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:55 PM
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I completely understand it, I don’t feel any way about other people’s life choices though. If you have run a risk vs reward system and decided it’s not for you why would I have a say on it? It’s what you are doing for yourself and YOUR mental health. Go enjoy your life: have fun doing things that make you happy. We only get one!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:53 PM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:58 AM
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Can you make yourself more physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:56 PM
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To a degree yes, but everyone is insecure about SOMETHING. People are getting snatched off the street by ICE, there is mass food insecurity, tens of thousands of layoffs causing folks to lose their livelihood. Wars, genocide, I have much more empathy for those folks. It’s hard to feel a strong degree of empathy for something that seems a bit trivial in the grand scheme of things. You still have a job, a house, family, friends. No one has everything, that’s life. And if it seems like they do, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:39 PM
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What are the men who are succeeding doing differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:24 PM
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Because life isn’t fair
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:20 PM
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I can only speak for myself but my partner and I are the same age. Off the top of my head conversations we have that I couldn’t have as effectively with someone younger : aging/dying parents, parenting older children, mid-life crisis, retirement goals and strategy, navigating middle management career choices etc You could of course have those conversations with someone who is 23, but their perspective is going to be much different than someone with some life experience under their belt. Of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:24 PM
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No it’s not about surface level things like music and tv shows. My partner and I talk about those things but where we really bond is discussing huge life experiences that can only happen at a certain age range together. Not everyone bonds the same of course, but to be for example 24 and childless and 50 and a single dad, you miss out so much on those key shared experiences that build a lifelong relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:38 AM
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I think what bothers me about cold approach is you know nothing about me other than you want to fuck. It feels gross. At least on a dating app you can read my profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:44 PM
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Uncomfortable. Please don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:31 PM
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I guess we are all different. I can’t imagine having a relationship with someone that much younger. I don’t even know what shows they watch or music they listen to. I need someone that’s been through some shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:26 PM
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23 and 35 is a world of difference in life experience and maturity. What do you even talk to each other about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:17 PM
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What are some things you think women should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:39 PM
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If yall know this why do so many keep chasing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:49 PM
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Well I will say I was proved wrong on that one! Curious, why would you choose the 4 if the 7 and 4 were both equally interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:11 AM
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Nobody is entitled to anyone, but autistic women with social anxiety have better options than their male counterparts. If your options were to either date a 4 or a 7 and you are a 5, what would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:02 AM
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Why would a woman want to date an autistic man with social anxiety when there are extroverted neurotypical men available?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:02 PM
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Because sometimes it feels like it’s the only thing men want to talk about on reddit. It just gets old. And simultaneously there is no solution. Continuously seeing people complain about something that isn’t going to change becomes annoying. Male or female. I’m a woman and had to unsubscribe from twox for near the same reason. I’m an American liberal and I get tired of seeing people constantly bring up Trump too. I think it’s human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:47 PM
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You sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:43 AM
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Yes but from attractive men. Wealthy men are attractive because of their money. Those women don’t want their attention or love they want their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:38 AM
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Ugly and or fat women like male attention regardless of the type of man. Other women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:33 AM
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The harsh reality coming from a woman is Women know what femininity is, we just reserve it for the most attractive men. I wish more women would be honest with undesirable men about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:46 AM
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Offended no, annoyed yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:45 PM
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These are all very valid points, and I have really helped me to realize my fears are unfounded. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:55 AM
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I should have stated sleeping or pairing with men. How can we get men to have a healthier image of themselves independent of what women think? How do we get men to divorce their feelings of worth on if women like them? It’s so harmful to men and boys, but anytime you suggest the alternative men just say it’s impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:51 AM
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Im sure that feels incredibly frustrating and lonely. Thank you for sharing with me in a very vulnerable way. I hope you find your partner one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:45 AM
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Well that makes me feel a bit better, although not sure if that was your intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:01 AM
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That’s unfortunate but I fear true. I really wish men weren’t so dependent on women for a feeling of worthiness. I wish more men could see a relationship in the way women do: a nice to have but not a necessity. Once all the looksmaxxing doesn’t bear fruit I fear violence is going to happen next. Im terrified for the world my daughter and her friends will inherit. And simultaneously so sad for the men too. What a shit situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:49 AM
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Wow that’s awful. This could be because I’m not on instagram or tik tok that I’m not aware of this. But yeah that’s fucked up. I’m sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:40 AM
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Well that seems reasonable. Women can tell unattractive men that we love them and they are beautiful. But I fear the fact we still won’t want to pair up and sleep with them would be seen as disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:21 AM
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You said this far more artfully than I did. Wholeheartedly agree. It’s obviously a huge problem and becoming worse, but how do you get men to not base their worth on female validation? I wish I had the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:13 AM
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Well yeah I’m not denying that, my observation was more so around wanting to debate liberal women online. It’s interesting to me that you still want to debate with women even if you know you are undesirable to them. For example, I am a single mother. I know most men think poorly of single mothers so I don’t engage with those men IRL or online. But you know that you are undesirable but still enjoy debating. It’s just an interesting difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:11 AM
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How do you think society could encourage young conservative men and women to find and date each other? Maybe a conservative dating app or more in person meetups? This is something I think everyone could rally behind as it benefits pretty much everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:25 AM
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How do we get men to change from this en masse while also not forcing women to sleep with them though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:20 AM
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This is such an interesting comment to me. Am I understanding correctly that you would rather have negative attention from women than none at all? Seems counter to what a lot of men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:11 AM
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That’s great news honestly. Conservative men should have plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:53 PM
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No, I personally wouldn’t mind if a man liked to read dark romance, but that’s me. I imagine it like porn, if it is becoming a fixation or impeding intimacy in our relationship it’s a problem. Otherwise let your freak flag fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:33 PM
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I think women elevating standards is a net positive for women and men. As a woman in my early 40s the change I see with Gen Z women is enormous. The pressure for my generation was strong in you HAVE to find a man, you have to get married by 25 kids by 28. It led to a lot of resentment, dead bedrooms, and unhappy marriages. Watching the divorces now of women I knew were settling just to “be married” and the dead bedrooms of women who are staying married but clearly never really desired their husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:23 PM
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Millennial woman here and yeah it’s kinda baffling to us, and we may sound out of touch at times. It’s just frankly really hard for us to wrap our heads around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:45 PM
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That Sounds awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:48 AM
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Why is there not an option where men can have a friend group that doesn’t focus on women and they just enjoy hanging out being bros? Why do they have to either talk poorly about women or down each other about being unsuccessful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:44 PM
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