I’m gonna show my impoverished upbringing a bit here, but I’m always surprised by how many men in this sub say they always grew up thinking they would get married and have children. I’m reading it as, it was seen as something as normal of an expectation as graduating from high school.

My parents are divorced, many of my friend’s parents were not ever together. I never grew up thinking marriage was a given.

It reminds me a bit of people complaining that they can’t afford to buy a home, which does suck, but sometimes stems from folks not being able to have the same purchasing power as their parents.

I’m not framing it as a debate, just a genuine question from curiosity.