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Question For Womensincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:14 PM
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Question For Womensincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:00 PM
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Debatesincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:42 PM
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Question For Womensincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:08 PM
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Question For Womensincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:24 AM
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sincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:07 PM
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sincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:50 AM
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sincerityappreciator/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:00 PM
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idgi
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:08 AM
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choosing better means staying alone or dating men if you're bi. if you can go with either then thats stellar advice actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:55 AM
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being direct means taking agency and perhaps even sharing responsibility. passive aggressive behavior maintains the pretende of her behavior bot being a problem and puts all the onus on you. why would women willingly give away their privileged positions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:38 AM
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this discussion is not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:32 PM
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yes yes, keep your head down so you dont anger the massa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:32 PM

low libido but like sex enough to build up a tally? help me out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:27 AM

not trying to insult you, but did you perhaps suffer from mental issues when you were "building up" your body count? i seem to notice than a high body count amokg women is more often a marker of unresolved pshycology rather than a genuinely high libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:25 AM

based honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:57 AM

if any man is stupid enough to do that, they were idiots and i just laugh at them, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:51 AM

oh well. if it gets deleted it gets deleted. in my defense this is less about n count itself but the contradictory messaging regarding how sex sullies or does not sully women, that i perceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:38 AM

is this a banned topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:31 AM
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because they dont view trans men as men, hah. but by all means keep promoting the same hatred that will surely never come for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:43 PM
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or maybe they just dont want you in their club because they view you as an evil man, just as the rhetoric you push puts it. enjoy the bed you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:36 PM
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shouldn't you as a trans woman have the self awareness to not spout bio essentialist feminist misandry? newsflash: they dont see you as one of them either. youre being voted out of their spaces thanks to the very rhetoric you support.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:47 PM
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LARPing a bigot is being a bigot. "oh i just call black people the N word and call for segregation to fit in, no biggie".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:03 PM
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holy shit a woman who gets it. can you please try to bring up this point to other women the next time we have a "men dont like being called husband laterial" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:01 PM

how often do you really meet a person who isnt hypocritical at all? that demans the same from themselves as they demand from others? feminism generally speaking is just a female chauvinism program. they dislike the parts of patriarchy that demand anything from women, but are perfectly fine and even enthusiastic about the parts that make demans on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:30 PM
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stop advertising your shit discord server.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:58 PM
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They get excited at the prospect of just being around guys and it makes their day. They tend to enjoy casual sex and seek out men for that. They truly enjoy men for just being male. From what I've seen, even the women you describe only behave that way because of insecurities or unresolved psychological trauma, not because they actually find male bodies all that alluring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:01 AM

sorry OP. but pretty much only gay men experience genuine physical androphilia. women like the performance around heterosexuality and how it bounces off them, but actual desire towards male bodies just isnt there. but unlike you seem to thonk, not even "chads" really get physical lust from women most of the time. there are no heterosexual chad prostitutes and there never were any successful geterosexual porn mags aimed at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:52 AM
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do you really think youre going to get honest and introspective answers to this? everyone thinks they are a good moral person who makes good moral choices, ask hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:43 PM
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comphet is a banned topic, reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:29 AM
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men watch porn and get accused of developing unrealistic expectations about women. meanwhile women are reading 400 pages about a 9-foot immortal minotaur demigod billionaire who imprints on them after one conversation. curious standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:55 AM
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you are not entitled to a relationship. whining about it in reddit says a lot. . if a relationship happens it happens. get a hobby and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:10 AM
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maybe its your personality you need to improve then. you sound a bit entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:00 AM
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have you tried self improving?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:43 AM
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americans are just more open and in your face about it. european women care just as much, they just voice it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:58 AM
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yeah, by using dutasteride, minox, sunscreen, tret and exercising.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:40 PM
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too many retards buy into fearmongering about finasteride and dutasteride. r/bald for example bans you if you even mention them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:59 PM
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men, unfortunately, care a lot about having wives/families. lacking such thinfs means a big part of men will not thrive. they are unlikely to be strongly motivated to contribute to, or defend the society they live in. everyone has seen the "men live like this and see no issue" meme with an empty apartment. if men dont feel inclined to participatr in society then the economy will suffer, services will suffer, substance use will spike and social cohesion in general will suffer. im not even talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:49 PM
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easy, Nasim Najafi Aghdam
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:47 AM
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dont think so, OP has a russian english writing style. the GOAT was distinctly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:40 AM
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"ive done nothing and im all out of ideas!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:38 PM
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true, but just take finasteride, balding was solved 30yo ago. anyway this post will get deleted soon since looks posts are not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:37 PM
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smell, body language, competence, etc are all part of it. look up what baseline means. That doesn't mean that Kelly's clitoral erection is less legitimate than Bob's penis boner, valid, but look at where this conversation began.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:09 AM
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i would say men have a very strong baseline physical desire for women. if she literally smells like raw sewage it can perhaps be lost, ill grant you that, but it doesnt really have to be gained from zero: its there to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:53 AM
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for non physical reasons, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:35 AM
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sure. now try to understand what the "physical" part means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:15 AM
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I would physically desire someone more, for [non-physical reasons] mull on this for a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:00 AM
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nobody said anyone must do anything, i was just explaining things so that you could understand them better, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:33 PM
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sure, anythings possible. point is that in the "immediate hookup" case the desire is more likely to be there, whereas in the latter case its no longer as likely be ause there are now other, equally plausible motivations for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:24 PM
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nowadays women make as much money as men or even more so it isnt the road to success with women anymore, and charisma isnt a bad thing to have but since most peiple meet online you dont really get to show your charisma before your looks make or break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:16 PM
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the fantasy is about being physically desired, not just tolerated because she likes you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:09 PM

the rule on "no woe is me" posting apparently doesnt apply to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:34 PM
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yeah, its a lot closer to redpill than blackpill. blackpillers believe "chad" hogs up all the genuine attraction while us sophisticated comphet aficiandos dont believe in such things as "men being desired by women" in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:02 AM
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i would use a bad and unallowed word, but it is, well, unallowed. but i feel like Gen Z is learning women dont actually like being married all that much and women desiring marriage might have been more of a societal meme than anything intrisic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:08 AM
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Seems I am the most interesting man on PPD. When I post, people cant help but speculate about my private life, and If i talk about a topic the mods soon make an announcement that talking about it will be banned. Feels like being dangerous and high status. Like a vampire... who is also a billionaire, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:07 AM
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i have no mouth and i must scream.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:15 AM
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eh, if thats your take on my fleeting comment then whatever. thanks for your attention anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:10 PM
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source for "from what i can see"? my eyes mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:02 PM
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from what i can see, misogyny is isolated acts of violence that are penalized extremely strongly, while misandry is systemic and sanitized.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:28 PM

the irony is kinda hilarious. i remember some time ago asking if women should try to make themselves more likable and was met with woman posting an endless list of self-appraisal that would make donald trump blush. she was telling me how great women are instead of spending a single thought on why a person should find them likable. it just isnt something they are concerned much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:11 PM

this is such an ignored point. men spiral in angst trying to think of ways to make women like them and when they vent their frustrations online they are told to improve themselves more so that a woman may grace him with her presence. never has a woman ever been told to improve herself or make herself likable from what i can see online, they are told they should be accepted just the way they are. maybe women just dont like men all that much......
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:55 PM

As a man, you just sort of have to delude yourself and ignore all the humiliating stuff about the male role in a relationship. then when she falls asleep next to you in bed at night its kinda pleasant and peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:51 PM
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nope, married women are disgusted by the idea of having sex with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:31 PM
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its comphet. women dont actually feel attracted to men, they feel "attracted" to their internal narratives. they get off on feeling feminine and desirable. the mans role is to affirm this feeling. women want men to be vampire billionaires whose attention makes the women feel all the more special and desirable. when you introduce vulnerability the vampire billionaire performance falls apart and she gets the ick. it all makes perfect sense when you stop pretending women like men and start acceptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:29 PM
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thanks, i thought it was clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:43 PM
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You are more than welcome to look up some sexuality stats Should I trust the stats of self-identified heterosexual men in Iran where it is illegal? Perhaps I shouldn't trust what people say as much as what their behavior actually shows. You can be attracted to the opposite gender without being attracted to everyone of the opposition gender. It is impossible to profitably sell male bodies to women. Categorically. No matter what they look like. It says something a lot more than most men being aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:28 PM

I see that you locked the ability to comment to your "response", so here it is: "The rules of the sub ask for no contentless rhetoric. Again I repeat that i am not interested in your anecdotes, and I granted that i probably should have specified that more accurately in the original post. Im sure you dont lack reading comprehension so im not sure what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:24 PM
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What proof would you like? Perhaps you might want to look up the studies of Chivers et al., who discovered that straight-identified women do not exhibit arousal towards male bodies at all. Interestingly, lesbians did exhibit arousal towards female bodies. You have no proof for your claims and you keep bringing up this topic over and over by trying to portrait womens sexuality as less valid. That is the same logic as "gay people are unnatural and conversion therapy will fix them". No, it isnt. Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:21 PM

If your criticism is that I should have more strictly defined the parameters of my original post, then that is valid and I accept it. But for the record, I am still not interested in your anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:19 PM

Your personal anecdote is perfectly valid, but it isnt what interests me. Im sure you understand that people might not come to a "debate" sub to hear anectodes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:12 PM
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The majority of people are just straight. Again, another "pokemonism". You arent really saying anything, which is starting to be a real pattern with you, friend. If you want to terminate your thought there then by all means do. You already expressed gratitude at the mod team for promising to ban this discourse so I dont really understand why you even bother to reply to me, if you find this line of thought icky you dont really have to reply to my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:11 PM

Why do you so insistently want me to respond? If you feel that you desire male bodies then good for you, there isnt much for me to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:06 PM
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I am a materialist. If you are not attracted to material bodies, you are not heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:03 PM
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Or perhaps they're not heterosexual, but they are attracted to the identity of being heterosexual due to comphet. Which tracks with their lack of interest in male bodies, but whatever makes more sense to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:02 PM
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Again, we go back to the energies and souls argument. If you believe in such things then good for you and I guess the argument ends there. If you ask me, the fundamental difference between men and women are our bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:00 PM
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Heterosexuality means a categorical orientation towards bodies of the opposite gender. My argument is that women do not demonstrate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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The only way this metaphor would make sense is if someone says they are straight and then only has sex with their own gender There are gay men deep in the closet who have only had sex with women, yet they are still gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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I mean if you feel its offensive to want words to mean something then thats valid i guess, but if someone called circles square and squares circle i would tell them that they are actually incorrect. I think words should mean something or then we might as well forget about language altogether and go back to gesturing like our cousins, chimpanzees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:47 PM

If you feel that it sucks then thats valid. I wouldnt say womens behavior doesnt influence mens attraction at all, but its not the underlying proponent of the attraction. Men have a categorical attraction towards female bodies, but they may feel other types attraction on top of that. For women, the baseline attraction towards men seems to not exist. Which is why I question womens heterosexuality and why comphet is a stronger explanatory model to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:42 PM

If you dont want your identity questioned, you shouldnt base your identity on something as weakly supported as being a heterosexual woman. If I identified as a Christian despite being an atheist, anyone would be perfectly valid in questioning me, and me being outraged at having my "identity denied" would be irrelevant. It is not meaningless. It is a label that people use to explain who they are attracted to. Again the pokemon dialectics. Repeating something meaningless doesnt give it meaning. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:36 PM

The debate is entirely about heterosexuality, and if you concur that women dont feel much towards the male body, then your asserted "biological realities" dont have much to do with the debate, unless you mean that you agree with me. Tbh that’s the only word here that’s loaded and nebulous. It’s a spook of a word based on how humans want to societally operate. It is fairly descriptive of the average man, but not a very accurate description of the average woman at all, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:30 PM

well, if you want me to respond to whatever it is that you try to say, then could you please rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:28 PM

sure, the intensity isnt specified, but if there is an overwhelming difference in their approach then it is reasonable to ask whether the phenomenon is actually the same at all. the definition of heterosexuality becomes meaningless if we dont adhere to any rigor. Gravitation to certain interests has nothing to do with sexuality either. Indeed, which is why I said your point was not a part of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:27 PM

Seems you agree with my points, I am not sure if you are trying to challenge or question me at all. But thanks for your response!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:25 PM

How should we define heterosexuality then, if not by arousal towards bodies? I am not a religious person, I don't believe in "male and female souls" nor do I really buy into the more secular talk of "vibes" and "energies" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:19 PM

You seem to be still under the impression that men and women are supposed to behave the same and you completely reject the idea that they are not. If we use the same term - 'heterosexuality ' to describe both genders, then both genders should exhibit it to a recognizable degree, yes. I don't think this is logically flawed or unreasonable. That is the same talking points some women have that say men dont like women as humans but only as sex objects to be conquered and purchased. Would you say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:17 PM

Demonizing what exactly? I demonize falsehoods, not womens actual sexuality. Women should just let go of comphet and look inwards a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:10 PM

There is no female equivalent because men and women aren't the same That is a non-answer, it would be great if people stopped repeating this like a pokemon repeats its name. Indeed men and women are different and I am exploring that difference right here. Would you say a guy that doesn't engage in the industry around the female body is gay? If it was categorically impossible to sell female bodies to men then yes, I would say that men are not all that into women. But as it happens, prostitution a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:08 PM

Lots of straight porn - to put it bluntly - is boring and is interested in treating women as a thing to be fucked rather than mutual pleasure, for example. Another example, sexuality as far as the physical experience vs the imagination based experience have been shown to differ in multiple ways. For example, some women do have the fantasy of being graped, it doesn’t mean that they’re anywhere near wanting that IRL thats kind of my point. a fantasy about being raped is a fantasy about a scenario,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:06 PM

By the way, an announcement is likely to be made by moderators soon regarding “comphet” posts and comments. This is just black pill but worse, as users like you are claiming not just that women are only attracted to male looks, but that they are not even attracted to men at all, which is even worse than black pill lookism. Expect an announcement this weekend. “Comphet” posts and comments will soon earn at least a 30 day ban much like black pill/lookist comments currently do. Figures, thanks for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:02 PM

I don't believe I have invalidated attraction. I am questioning whether straight-identified women experience attraction to male bodies in the same categorical way men experience attraction to female bodies, and if not, is the "straight" identity warranted? You mention body hair, facial hair, thicker skin, etc. fair enough. But if those traits are genuinely powerful attractors, why do we see so little evidence of women seeking them out for their own sake? For men, attraction to women produces obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:56 PM

heterosexuality is by definition categorical, yes, otherwise it would be called pansexuality. whether you think its a negative or not isnt really a part of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:40 PM

im going on a very hypothetical tangent here, but for funs sake, could you imagine a world where lesbian relationships were as normalised as heterosexual ones? where you grew up with the expectation of finding a girl instead of a boy. perhaps tou might find yourself equally offput by the idea of being with a man as you now feel about the idea of being with a woman? "masculinity" and "dominance" that you admit you value over physicality are social performances that are not intrisically linked to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:37 PM

thank you for your response! comphet really looks like the most simple explanatory model. if you look at gay men, you can see the stark difference of their very physical androphilia that lacks mystique and socialized expectations. the average straight identified woman definitely doesnt strike me as someone very physically into men. "straight" women prefer men in suits while gay men prefer them in jockstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:33 PM

what about a tall athletic woman with the jaw of olivia wilde, who behaves in accordance with "masculine" expectations and dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:31 PM

adrienne rich was a prominent feminist and the theory of comphet ties very closely to general feminist ideas like patriarchy. it is emblematically a feminist theory, that isnt to say feminists cant have opposing theories but it is a part of the feminist school of thought. The evidence of their straightness is that they are only attracted to men. Exactly, and i am trying to find the evidence of that attraction you say is there. Saying you are attracted to men or partaking in heteronormative socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:29 PM

dont you think the lack of a categorical attraction might be saying something? perhaps these women arent all that into men but their personal relationship dynamics, whatever they be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:23 PM

comphet is a most definitely a feminist theory. it's also not about people who actually are straight. indeed, and i am trying to find evidence of that straightness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:20 PM

"get over it" doesnt seem like constructive debate. thank you for your interest nonetheless!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:17 PM

Im sure some men are like that, but the average mens responses are usually not all that difficult to decipher. they are intrisically attracted to feminine anatomy. but thank you for your respomse! womens lack of a proper answer does remind me of a certain feminist theory called comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:16 PM

thank you for your answer! what about a transgender woman with a penis, or a lesbian with a strap on? is the desirability of the male body limited to the penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:14 PM
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redpill content still sees the woman herself as valuable, fds content sees men as vermin to be used financially and discared after the juice has been squeezed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:54 PM
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Women are generally autosexual, with very little to zero actual desire for male bodies. the phenomenon you speak of demonstrates that well: for a man to be "attractive" to women, he has to engage their autogynephilia. being "pretty good" doesnt trigger it. she has to see the man as a vampire billionaire who affirms her self-image, status, femininity, romantic fantasy or whatever else she is actually invested in. thats why women of all stripes converge on the same tiny "elite" pool of men. they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:52 PM
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Why do women partake in heterosexual institutions like marriage if they dont actually like heterosexual acts like sex? Its 2026, nobody is forcing you to be with men anymore. If the idea of being physically intimate with a person you claim to be into is so offputting, maybe you arent all that into him. Women should really try to confront and understand their lack of androphilia and move on, either as asexuals or lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:33 PM
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national socialists get a bad wrap too, they just wanted to make germany strong and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:10 PM

yeah its quite literal coping. an uk survey done just a month ago showed us that 35% of women 25 and below have a negative opiniom of men, and it seems to be climbing more and more. what you see on IG and tiktok arent just opinions of the "terminally online" outlier women, they reflect the mainstream. women plain and simple dont like men, feel zero attraction towards them and comphet is on its last legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:06 PM
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why is it not sustainable? if itnpays the rent and the food it is by definition sustainable. i called you an incel because incels feel they are entitled to female bodies, just like you feel like you are entitled to more than a shared apartment and noodles. you are not entitled to anything. nobody owes you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:38 PM

you said you need a job to eat and survive, what more do you need? you are not entitled to anything, incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:28 PM
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right, so if 2 jobs are enough to survive by sharing a rented apartment with 3 other people and eating nothing but cup noodles every day, what are these lazy no good "working class" people complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:23 PM

women talk about how they see 1000 gorgeous women every day and 1 good looking man once a decade and how they are decentering men and prioritizing their own peace over men. it kind of seems like any women who are alone, are actually choosing to be alone and are very comfortable with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:22 PM
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"if you are not willing to adapt to the job market, your complaints about the economy are unreasonable"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:11 PM
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ill ask chatgpt to help yoi since you are having such a difficult time: In today's Western liberal democracies, the average total fertility rate is roughly 1.3–1.5 children per woman, while in Afghanistan it is about 4.5–4.8 children per woman—around three times higher. sure seems like afghanistam will be around for the foreseeable future while we will go the way of the dodo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:49 PM

so what is the birth rate delta between afhhanisyan and western liberal democracies?why are we having such a hard time with this :S
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:39 PM

right, so their birth rate is 4.6 to 4.8. what is the average birth rate in western democracies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:28 PM

did you know that lesbian women do in fact feel aroused by nothing but images of women? look up the chivers et al study. seems only "straight" women are unable to feel desire when they see the bodies of the gender they claim to prefer. you can tell me all about the exact zodiac signs that need to align for women to experiemce a shred of ""desire"" for men, all im hearing is that it isnt really there. but im not blaming you, it is what it is, you didnt choose to be like that so you dont have to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:48 PM

every culture that every disappeared and every empire that has fallen, did have enough children. and how many cultures that did not have children survived? Culture is also ever evolving. do you foresee the people in western liberal democracies becoming biologically immortal soon? I also like to request a list of cultures today that aren't experiencing a steep-decline in birth rates. afghanistan comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:45 PM

nobody is talking about military might here. its just a simple reality: if you dont have kids your culture dies out, the people who have kids dont die out. russia has nothing to do with this though, theyre facing the same demographic crisis the rest of us are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:34 PM

i like desire and want it, you dont like it and especially dont want men to have it, its fine, we dont have to agree and im especially not interested in evpsych rationalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:31 PM

i mean you might say that, but women absolutely love their vampire billionaire agp eroticas which are all about how much the vampire billionaire desires the woman and how affirming it is, so it really shouldnt be that hard to grasp that men might want to be desired too. yes, desire is nice. it is life affirming and one of the few pleasant things we humans get to enjoy in our short lives filled with suffering. it would be great if women desired men like gay men do, more desire for everyone, nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:54 PM

we will be replaced by a culture that manages to replenish its numbers, simple as. traditional theocracies will re-emerge in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:15 PM
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capitalism, social media blahblahblah there are chimps in the jungle having brutal violent wars with each other. all of our greatest innovations like the haber borsch process or the internet were fueled by the war industry. humans and hate are a match made in heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:23 AM
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i never felt it was all that flattering to be with a woman who just found me "vampirely billionaire" enough to convince herself i was worth having sex with, honestly. id like it if women were more like gay men and just desired our bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:50 AM
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i shpuld add that the risk of losing it is only a part of the whole deal. another part is that our bodies are physical and when we do have sex we do it with our bodies, or at least i never inserted my status and performance into a woman while having sex with her. my desire is physical and i wish for it to be mutual. without mutuality its not all that great, but ive learned women dont really desire any men physically all that much so if wishes were horses, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:26 AM

it would be the latter. i can be careful about not ending up in disfiguring acciedents but i cannot control the surrounding economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:11 AM

that injury is as likely to take my status, performance and ability to gather resources too. but i dont actuallu need to end up in an accident to lose those things, simple economic downturn which happens quite often can do it too, no matter how careful i am about ending up in accidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:07 AM

hubris: the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:48 AM
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most straight-identified women are asexual-autosexual (with or without a slight lesbian slant). they dont really experience any androphilia, the male body is more likely to disgust them than arouse them. read the chivers et al study, straight identified women are more aroused by female bodies than male bodies. heteronormativity has run out of steam and youre noticing it. there is no "going back to romance", the milk is spilled, the cat is out of the bag. i just hope they create passable girlfrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:44 AM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:28 AM
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beauty is a property of the person. my face, body, voice etc are me. status, resources and performance are external circumstances. if i lose my job tomorrow they disappear.if i fail to vampirely billionaire properly she gets the ick. thats why being desired for my body feels more personal than being desired for what i can provide or how much she enjoys my performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:15 AM
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feminism is just female chauvinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:19 AM
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studies (chivers et al.) find the average heterosexual identified woman doesnt really show any category response to male bodies. when i point this out, straight identifying women tend to say "we are just not that visual, its the masculine chakra we feel attracted to besides the scientists forgot to control gemini rising and saturn in the seventh house so of course they didnt react to stimuli of men duh", but interestingly, in these studies, lesbian identified women show a significant category re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:18 AM
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OP listed some common examples that women consider icks om men, like eating ice cream or using an umbrella. the theme was that these are completely innocuous human things, which take away from the attraction to the man, because a man who does such things no longer comfortably fits the vampire billionaire archetype which drives womens "attraction" to men. or that was my reading, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:45 PM
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yeah, being objectified for my body would be much nicer than being objectified for my performance, status and resources. my body is me, the latter threr are just circumstance. unfortunately only gay men seem to objectify male bodies, studies show women feel less than nothing when they view male bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:59 PM
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When women look for long‑term partners, traits like reliability, kindness, and emotional safety show up how flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:55 PM
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my reading is the opposite: he is saying that when women demonstrate attraction to men, it is in contexts where the men are straight up dehumanized. when the man is humanized, women get the ick and no longer experience attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:52 PM
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They're machines designed to cater to female heterosexual desire. *female autosexual desire. genuinely heterosexual women barely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:33 PM
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obviousy its not the same, but its something at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:02 PM
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or maybe women just dont like men and only tolerate them for their useful services, and when men no longer have those to offer women cut them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:25 PM
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whatever you do, do NOT look up divorce rates when women start earning more than their spouses. hint: it really doesnt look a lot like women are looking for a "teammate".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:11 PM
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"culling the undesirables is ok when my people do it against people i dont like". i really doubt you want to go down that road. or maybe youre an actual fan of peter thiel and elon musk, idk. i rarely react this way but your type of nonchalant bloodlust is genuinely making me feel a little uncomfortable, especially since our elites are absolutely gung ho about it as well, so i guess i will just disengage and go for a walk or something. consider this me conceding the victory of this debate to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:51 PM
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wow, that turned into a nazi approved eugenics program real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:45 PM
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again sounds fair, we might get banned for circlejerking instead of debating at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:41 PM
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But you would have to incentivize women to agree to work as state sanctioned prostitutes. And make it non taboo for those women. money Offer free STD checks and free abortions and free contraception and free and easy access to permanent sterilization. sure, sounds fair You would also need a society where these women aren't shamed and any man who gives a woman an STD is legally liable to pay off her contract if its a permanent STD that would make her unable to work in that field sounds fair anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:36 PM
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how do you separate any work from human trafficking? you regulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:27 PM
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indeed forcing people to do things is a non starter, but the issues of loneliness and sexual frustration are socially relevant. IMO prostitution as a controlled, well regulated socialised welfare/healthcare service for lonely men would be a nice start. eventually, sex/companion robots could replace these bandaids more effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:20 PM
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its just an entitlement gap, women tend to be incredibly arrogant and entitled. men work for their own orgasms, women generally speaking lie down and expect men to give orgasms to them without even attempting to communicate, in fact the idea of communicating their desires gives them the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:15 AM
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what im saying is that even women who do not show resistance are not guaranteed to actually be physically into you at all, they just want a man who will act as their chaperones and nurses and therapists because they are fucked up in the head, to put it plainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:26 PM
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women with severe psychological issues usually try to hide them when on the prowl for men, yes. then the relationship begins and the mask falls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:25 PM
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i dont disagree with the notion that women who play hard to get arent all that into men, but you should probably keep your guard up with the ones that "make it easy", too. a lot of screwed up women out there looking for men to lure into codependent relationships. honestly, mentally healthy women who are strongly into men are a rare breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:17 PM
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its because paying for sex is submissive, its something unwanted men do. women just get the ick and then rationalise it afterwards to feel like it is "justified".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:10 PM
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men dont actually have any privilege to guard so they dont mind women transitioning to men apart from maybe uttering "what a shame, she was hot" once. there are no male equivalents of TERFs. it is telling that so many women foam at their mouths at the thought of men transitioning to women: this is an attack on their feminine privilege and must not be tolerated. back to the plantation slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:06 PM
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this reads like it was written by donald trump. ranting and raving about how great and wonderful you are isnt a good way to demonstrate likeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:40 AM
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Shouldn't women take the initiative and prove they are likable for something other than sex first?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:57 AM
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you dont need to care, friend. but usually when i dont care about something i just stop responding, while you seem determined to tell everyone how little you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:49 AM
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if you dont want to be questioned, purplepilldebate might not be the place for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:45 AM
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incels dont have a monopoly on fatalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:43 AM
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i'd say this take is somewhat anti-incel. blackpillers believe women are strongly into men, just that it takes a "chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:37 AM
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she’s gonna end up with a man because that is what a “real” relationship is. Thats called comphet and basically the entire female gender operates under such socialised notions, which were necessary to construct since they lack real attraction for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:30 AM
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next youll ask me to talk to your cat. what does your family have to do with womens performative "attraction" to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:18 AM
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the fake performance isnt all that hard to see really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:07 AM

women surely can, but when their words dont match their actions we shouldnt take them at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:49 PM
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what can i say, they like their weddings where they are the centers of attention and sexless husbands who they can fleece at the divorce court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:48 PM
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yep, its hard to break through a powerful socialized institution like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:33 PM
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bi women date men instead of women because of comphet, not because of a wild raw physical appetite for male bodies. women plain and simple dont feel that way for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:23 PM

incredible rhetoric. how were ornitologists ever able to study birds when they dont have wings themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:56 PM

didnt take you long to get to personal insults. women can enjoy sex just fine, and even orgasm from it. i also orgasm from jacking off. doesnt mean im into my hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:51 PM

that is just gay culture, not a failing of the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:38 PM

When will people stop it with this sad nonsense? Online dating and the apps are just fine. Tinder works perfectly for gay men, as does Grindr. Women just arent interested in men, thats the only part of the equation that doesnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:09 PM
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Female employment and reproductive autonomy is about 50 years old, so not novel Gen Z women are the first women ever to outearn their male peers, however. Coincidentally, gen Z men are the loneliest and most virginal generstion of men ever. Turns out women arent all that interested in men who cant bring a material benefit to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:04 PM
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trust me, you dont. womens heterosexuality is just a socialised performance while mens heterosexuality is a never ending drug addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:02 PM
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it had perfectly valid methodology actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:09 AM
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kinda based but really theyre mostly just asexual with a slight lesbian leaning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:45 AM
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legal systems, educational systems and welfare systems favor women "cherry picking" thats one big fucking cherry, lady
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:36 PM
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it did, back in the day. i no longer seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:46 PM

hypergamy doesnt have an endgame. if all men below 6' were sent to the gas chambers like so many women seem to fantasize, it would then be the 6'tall men who are the icky short men giving women the creeps, ans so on and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:42 PM
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is desiring validation just thirst for a vain and meaningless ego boost or is it fundamentally human? we celebrate birthdays, graduations, marriages, and conversely, we mourn deaths. being noticed and considered important enough to be missed matter to us. if women do not stress about being single and virgins, it believe it is because most of them realize that its in their power to change that status in the same evening, not because men unilaterally rejected her as unworthy. alas, searching for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:25 PM
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yes, women and men are different and i am explaining how. just repeating an empty statement like a pokemon is a cool debate tactic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:17 PM

false allegations, inherent in group bias against all evidence "not all women but always a woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:46 AM
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if you dont want to debate you dont have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:02 AM

you really shouldnt be this interested in speculating about me, im a pretty boring person really. but if it sates your curiosity i can tell you i have an okay amount of experience with women, and i am friends with men who themselves have a decent amount of experience too. We talk. Nothing I have personally learned has made me believe in womens object oriented attraction at men any more tahn if i were a virgin. i asked you to be civil because thats actually a rule here. wouldnt want you banned in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:41 AM
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A man is still the target for most woken …. so can you please answer why selling mens bodies to women is an unviable business model? you really cant escape this without admitting that women do not desire mens bodies for themselves. that is object oriented attraction: when you have to relate it to an inward state to get any arousal out of it, it is by definition autosexuality. this really isnt that hard. you aren’t actually interested in discussing the differences in male vs female sexuality, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:28 AM

try to be civil. no, the fantasy is dependent on what the man is (a vampire billionaire) and crucially, how what he is makes his attention affirm her femininity and desirability. it is as autogynephilic as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:17 AM
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object oriented as in "man/woman as the target": nothing more, nothing less. you dont need "my definition", you can go read up on autogynephilia by googling it. have you read every womans erotica I have a good idea of the trends and the bestsellers. I actually made a thread asking precisely if there are any examples of womens erotica that focuses on men as the objects of desire on here and got a pretty resounding answer of "we dont just like men for existing, they need to do something for us", w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:11 AM
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It really just is a silly "no u" since you seem to lack a real counterargument. Do men watch gay men giving blowjobs to men or do they watch women giving blowjobs to men? Because thats the "female pleasure" women concentrate on, not a male body in sight. Now, why is all womens erotica autogynephilic? Why is it nigh impossible to sell male bodies to women but very easy to sell womens self oriented autogynephilia to them im the form of vampire billionaire stories? Can you please answer these in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:00 AM
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"no u" isnt a worthwhile debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:52 AM
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yep, "straight" womens behavior can be completely explained by comphet + autogynephilia and it makes a much simpler framework than any alternative explanation they generally attempt to give for their observable lack of target oriented desire. all their erotic novels are extremely agp, it isnt an accident. its all about what the vampire billionaire does to her, not about him at all.this is what truly appeals to and arouses women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:35 AM
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could you provide some strong evidence of womens object oriented arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:30 AM
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i want to be desired for my body. only after that is established does the thought of respecting me for my values or whatever occur. desire is the currency of the SMP if you will, and without you are a pauper.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:20 PM
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one infinity vs. two infinities
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:31 PM
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even transgender women have infinitely more dating options than even the most good looking man you know fucking grim. but expected
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:11 PM
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yeah, looks go way, way beyond just dating. both women and men treat better looking people of either gender better. straight men love clint eastwoods movies, but its not by accident the guy was a 10/10. most US presidents were taller than average and had good heads of hair. everyone looks up to the tall, handsome guy as a natural born leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:53 PM

thats a conversation for another post, something thats surely been debated to death on here already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:55 PM
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again, if you think "wife material" is a bad thing, thats your pregorative, im not interested in convincing you otherwise. the two terms just have nothing in common so you arent really communicating effectively by bringing husband material up im the same context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:53 PM
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the terms have nothing in common so why even bring up "husband material"? if you dont want people to call out a poor analogy then dont use a poor example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:43 PM
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you can view it negatively if you want, i'm just challenging the equivalence you imply. "husband material" and "wife material" are not analogous terms at all since the first strongly implies a lack of attraction and the second one does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 PM

It shouldnt be all that difficult to understand. When someone is called husband material but not hookup material, it implies the man is not sexually desirable, just likable or tolerable for his other qualities. Most women get off on being targets of desire (in fact its just about the only thing they get off on, but thats a different discussion), so you should really be able to understand this intuitively. When men say a woman is wife material, its usually that they consider her likable on TOP of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:27 PM
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thanks, its really annoying when people try to strawman me all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:02 AM

side family? in this economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:58 PM
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tinder was released over 15 years ago, this kind of blatant, instantly disprovable nonsense doesnt really fly anymore im afraid. even mainstream redditors no longer pretend women cant date easier than men. its a little funny that the women on r/purplepilldebate still try to gaslight so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:36 PM

it was performative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:27 AM

comphet did the brunt of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:35 AM
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I disagree. My experience is that male groups express bonding and emotional intimacy differently than women, but not any less-than. When I broke up with my ex gf, i went on a drunken bender with my friends and played a lot of tennis the following weeks. Not a lot of "talking about feelings" or therapy speak, but I felt seen and heard and understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:33 PM

most of the time when women use the words "entitled" or "entitlement" its like chuds using the word "degenerate". it doesnt really have a strict meaning at all, its just used against people you find icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:31 PM
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its just a classic case of women wanting something but not communicating it. literally the exact same thing as going to the store and bringing the "wrong food" because she didnt ask for what she wanted. but as usual all the blame is in men because men le bad or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:46 PM
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wouldnt it be easier to have this "skill issue" back and forth through DMs rather than thread titles?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:44 AM
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im just that interesting i guess. what else do you want to know about me? you can hop in my dms if you really cant fight your endless curiosity for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:36 AM
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That's a reflection of who you select. yeah, women. in any case i am flattered that you are this interested in me, if you want we can go back to discussing the topic which is about broader trends, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:23 AM
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i should hope you are, otherwise you wouldnt tell me to change my sexuality like a maga lunatic tells gays to turn straight. if youre not actually conservative that makes it even worse, it makes you a hypocrite with no convinctions. no, they didnt desire me. it doesnt take a mind reader to notice they were only into themselves as outlined in the OP. i was a "vampire billionaire" to them, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:37 PM
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and a bunch of one might stands, plus a BPD "situationship".plus i have friends with their own experiemces and we talk. but this really should make no difference, i made this post to discuss general trends, not personal anecdotes, miss erika kirk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:30 PM
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so be gay hello miss fundamental conservative christian. i dont know if the MAGA circles have heard of this yet but sexuality is not a choice, actually. Do you think your gfs or fwbs didn't desire you? not really, no. gf like the validation, fwb liked the idea of being with a "high status guy" until she got the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:59 PM
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nah, ive had girlfriends and fwbs and shit. i want legitimate desire. gays have it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:39 PM
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yep, take my soul satan
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:26 PM
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I guess it just comes off as so performative otherwise. If a woman sees bodies just like yours but feels nothing for them, how are you supposed to believe she actually finds anything physically appealing about yours? Its the asexuality I described in the hypothetical. You might be "comfortable" with his body but real physical desire? I don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:40 PM
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Why do I expect people to be attracted to the gender they say they are attravted to? Words should mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:05 PM
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there was an attempt, but my opposition kept eating crayons and drooling all over himself so i knew when to quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:46 PM
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Oh well, great insight, debate over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:40 PM
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if you find this debate too confusing to understand, you are not obliged to partake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:37 PM
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or perhaps you're just not very observant, and accept what people say as the truth rather than what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:34 PM
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they really dont, not any more so than the hypothetical asexual i described in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:27 PM

or maybe you're just needleslly attached to the image of yourself as "heterosexual"? but if you are not interested in the debate, you really dont have to be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:26 PM
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why do you think red/blackpillers discovered phenomena like "mogging"? why do you think that women are so fond of the "ick"? these both speak of the same phenomena: women are not attracted to men, only the narrative they sell themselves about them. when this narrative breaks, the "ick" occurs. a chad stops being a chad when he is surrounded by even taller and more handsome men. to me, there is no real sexual desire oriented at mens bodies to be seen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:23 PM
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no, but blind women are, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:20 PM
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huh, never observed it myself despite partaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:19 PM
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modern psychology considers "porn addiction" (porn brained gooners yada yada) to be hogwash, actually. you should look that up. its almost as if the difference is that women are not men. yes indeed, and my message is that the label "heterosexual" is not at all useful to describe women. asexual with autosexual leanings is much more accurate and informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:18 PM
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in the studied i refer to, women did in favt react with observable evidence to sexual stimuli, its just that when they did, the stimuli did not concetrate on mens bodies though. what does that tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:15 PM
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You’re playing word games with “observe.” I obviously meant observable evidence of an internal state, not literally seeing someone with your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:03 PM
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if it is impossible to observe, we might as well talk about ghosts and other paranormal phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:59 PM

tomato, tomata.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:56 PM
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what qualifies for a lot? i jack off once a day and when i do i watch porn (or adjacent media featuring womens bodies). 15 minutes a day, thereabouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:55 PM
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why do they need to be celebrities before the performance of attraction begins? why do women perform the same attraction towards celeb men who they would otherwise ignore in real life? its just meta-attraction. the thought of this vampire billionaire wsnting you is affirming and makes women feel desired and feminine, which is what arouses them, as outlined in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:53 PM
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""heterosexual" women do not exhibit physical attraction towards men so they are most likely not heterosexual" is, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:51 PM
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moser discovered that agp is also very much present in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:49 PM
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yep, if you dont like it, its pseudoscience. if you arent interested in my arguments then why partake in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:48 PM
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if you ask what my "dream world" is like, hoping to "generate" attraction is already a failure to achieve it. i would cerrainly like it of women were physically attracted to men like men are to women (or gay men towards men) but i would also like to have a trillion dollars and a 12 inch dick. i seek to form a coherent view of the world and that includes questioning what i see as a false performance of attravtion from womens part. i hold out some hope that our mainstream culture might one day ack…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:46 PM
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sexual arousal can be physiologically measured, though. men who say they like women generally respond strongly to female bodies. womens categorical attractiom in such studies has been absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:38 PM
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autogynephilia is a thing. if you find the man to be affirming to your desirability and femininity, you can feel aroused by his attention, but real physical desire for his body is more likely just a performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:35 PM
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i am not interested in explaining you or your friends, but general trends and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:30 PM
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oh no, someone is questioning my beliefs. ban him now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:29 PM
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"women need to have the 7 dragon balls, the man needs to perform the perfectly choreographed mating dance and the moon needs to be in the waxing crescent."or... maybe women just arent into men. have you ever heard of occams razor?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:26 PM
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youre making some pretty good progress here. a script indeed! its called comphet and it doesnt require a single genuinely heterosexual woman to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:23 PM
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again, enjoying physical sensation =/= orientation. many women enjoy using vibrators. does this mean they are sexually attracted towards them? im sure the same woman would enjoy a lesbian relationship just as much if society were as oriented towards them. look up what comphet means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:20 PM

yep! aces are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:17 PM
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"any at all" is a pretty strong claim. there's more than 4 billion women om the planet, i'm sure SOME of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:16 PM
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Where do you see this lust? I just see autogynephilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:15 PM
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im saying that there is no discernable difference between an asexual faking attraction towards men and a heterosexual woman with "real attraction" towards men. the joke is that in describing an asexual woman, i described an average "heterosexual" woman to a T. its just a performance with very little to do with actual desire for male bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:13 PM

Im really tempted to swallow the bait, but i'll just settle for reminding you that this is a sub where we debate sex and gender issues, not each others lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:09 PM
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i have met women who enjoy sex. enjoying sex is different than enjoying a body, i hoped to not have to write that out in too much detail and prolong an already longer than average opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:05 PM
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asexuals can enjoy stimulation. being asexual just means you dont have an oruentation towards bodies. i know it can seem confusing, but consider that a man can masturbate but he probably isnt attravred to his hand. it simply gives him physical stimulation. an asexual can enjoy a sensation but not have any feeling towards the body causing that sensatiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:03 PM
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its the same discussion really. in both cases the interest in men is performative. whether women are asexuals slightly leaning towards lesbian or lesbian slightly leaning towards asexual is a pretty irrelevant detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:01 PM

And how would you gauge that in a way that categorically differentiates her from heterosexual identifying women? Do heterosexual women feel excited when they see a male nude?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:52 PM

sex is life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:22 AM
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OP is pretty undeniably onto something. Womens in group bias is massive. You can look at any gendered online discussion anywhere and women very, very rarely call each other out, no matter how harsh the rhetoric may be. If a woman made the exact same post as OP with genders reversed, you would not see women attacking it like you see men attacking u/NewDuuud here. They thought to disagree with a "fellow woman" simply doesnt occur to them like the same does to men. Men would definitely stand to ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:20 PM
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hella based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:56 PM
1

i last heard that line on the school playground when i was 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:48 PM
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is this the part where you call me an incel for having a non-kosher opinion? i'm genuinely surprised it took you so long, you have some restraint, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:46 PM
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sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:42 PM
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tomato, tomata.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:34 PM
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its okay, sometimes comphet gets the best of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:25 PM
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please don't get me wrong. there's nothing wrong with not being straight! its completely valid to be asexual, lesbian, autosexual or whatever else you please! i just think calling oneself "heterosexual" when you clearly don't experience heterosexual attraction is a category error which should be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:10 PM
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who said anything about being "correct"? if you think men should be more like women then youre entitled to that opinion. just dont go saying youre into men when you most evidently arent. but now that you ask, yeah, men probably are the correct ones. desire is a nice and life affirming thing. more desire for everyone, and nobody would have to feel undesired if women were more like men. sounds like an utopia, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:37 AM
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entire discussion ruined because OP used the word "decent" instead of "polite" or "considerate"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:35 AM
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not being interested in viewing nudes literally 24/7 is one thing, but being disgusted by an unexpected nude is a different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:17 AM
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thank you, very cool. i value your input.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:08 AM
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I can clearly see you're a thinker of the highest caliber.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:01 AM
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asexuals can be hypersexual too. if your baseline is to be disgusted by mens bodies then that indicates you arent very much attracted to them. seems like youre one of the rare women who are also disgusted by womens bodies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:54 AM
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well, good thing he finally got together with a woman then, he gets to enjoy the asexual lifestyle he always wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:44 AM
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well, gay men are sexually interested in men so they dont mind quick (or instant) sexual escalation. it tracks that women arent actually sexually into men at all, which is why women tend to run away disgusted and screaming at the sight of sexual interest from men.which is why you might want to give girls a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:27 AM
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nah, theyre on grindr having the time of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:24 AM
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increased probability of having paid for sex was identified in men who were: men who were dissatisfied with their sex life men reporting having had less sex than they would have liked to men who had ever looked for or met sex partners online as well as frequent pornography users Wow, you're right! Truly these men are aliens from a different planet. Men who were dissatisfied with their sex life and had less sex than they would have wanted to? Say it isnt so, what a bunch of absolute perverted wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:03 AM
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hmm, gay men usually dont mind direct sexual interest, since they like men so much. maybe you could try girls if the idea of being sexual with men is disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:55 AM
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what makes them disgusted in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:09 AM
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sex and romance are tied at the hip. cant have romance without sexual intimacy and sexual intimacy often begets romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:57 AM
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maybe you replied to the wrong person? i dont think you said anything relevant to what i posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:31 AM
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Women being less attracted to men is a bs statement. They are attracted to men. Ask any woman in a hetero relationship. shouldn't we look at what they do instead of take their words ar face value? its near impossible to sell mens bodies to women. male prostitutes market to gay men instead of women. gay men are a small minority while straight women are supposed to be nearly 50% of the population. i dunno about you but to me that says something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:19 AM
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B seems like actual torture, while A is only slightly embarrassing. Male virginity isnt all that rare anymore since women are less and less likely to bother with pretending to be attracted to men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:30 PM
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worlds most endangered species, havent been observed ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:10 PM
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Ever hear of a bell curve?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:07 PM
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Thats very easy to answer. Women are not attracted to men so they don't feel it is all that important to seek them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:05 PM

Quick, get everyone to the thought shelter before the truth bombs drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:50 PM
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yeah, male strippers exist. i addressed that in OP, along with the reason why women solicit their services and how it differs from men. my boyfriend [..] like to watch[...] please try to understand that i am not trying to invalidate your own, unique lived experience. if you in particular say that you feel a strong erotic, object oriented desire for men, then i'm not all that interested in challenging that. but we are not talking about me or you, we are talking about general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:33 AM
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That is emphatically not what's happening when women like men in entertainment. Why do you think that's what's happening? had that discussion with icytrapezium. sorry, im being a bit lazy now. That is why men in entertainment are valuable while men who try to "sell their bodies" in static form are not. Men in entertainment move, dance, speak, sing, display emotions. Make you feel things. All the extra inputs for attraction are pushed so actual attachment can form. That is what opens the pocket b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:54 AM
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if you followed my whole replychain with u/IcyTrapezium, you can probably discover why i hold one as valid and the other one as "vampire billionaires billionairing vampirely", ie. womens autosexual meta-attraction. if a man suddenly becomes attractive because of his celebrity status, then it isnt really the male body you're finding attractive. if the playboy audience would have felt negligible attraction to the playgirl of the month before her new status, the sudden attraction would be equally f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:56 AM
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you know what, maybe you can make a porn site exclusively selling male bodies to women. if youba e so convinced women are into men, you are striking a gold mine, and frankly youd be srupid to not do it because its such an untapped market. you would be the richest woman om the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:19 AM
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its just that nothing you manage to cook up can erase the fact that male bodies cannot be effectively sold to women. ever seen "dont look up"? womens obvious lack of interest in male bodies, as evidenced by the impossibility of making money from selling male bodied to women is the asteroid in my sky. youre asking me to not look up at the asteroid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:12 AM
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yes, tried, for attempted murder on comphet, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:09 AM
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my female cousin actyally had piles and piles of yaoi books when we were teens. i checked a bunch of them out and the passive party most definitely was a female self insert lol. the exact same "Ana" archetype you find in 50 shades.and the active party, as usual, was a variation of the vampire billionaire werewolf serial killer alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:01 AM
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yep, i do try to always have comeback or two in hand, thanks for noticing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:58 PM
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maybe you just arent into men? gay men dont have issues finding handsome men because, you guessed it, they are into men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:53 PM
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the passive party in yaoi is typically a female self insert.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:45 PM
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Why do women masturbate to gay porn? I tried to ask ChatGPT for statistics on how 1) how many women watch porn, 2) how many women watch porn regularly rather than once a year and 3) how many of those women who watch porn regularly do it due to actual physical arousal rather than just slight curiosity and boredom. the result was that it couldnt give me any sort of reliable numbers and apologized when i pushed for an estimation (lmao). it did tell me that lesbian porn is much more popular among wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:32 PM
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thats a lot of questions friend. Is it because men are ugly? not really. even if every man alive was 6'3+ and had a 8/10 face, then women would just start gettinf the ick from those guys and start pining for the 7 foot tall 10/10s. its why looksmaxxers discovered "mogging" and its why the "ick" exists. women arent genuinely physically attracted to men, they get off to the autosexual fantasy of being chosen by "the elite" and if that narrative breaks then the ick happens because there really wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:02 PM
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So unless enough women paid for sex from random men you think women don’t actually want sex or desire men? enough that it was a viable business model like female to male prostitution and OF is? yeah. Also this isn’t true about women suddenly liking a man because he’s a celebrity. Part of why they are a celebrity is because they are attractive. You think Brad Pitt had trouble dating before he was famous? there's absolutely a great many like 6-7/10, better than average but nothing special looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:24 PM
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Basically if women don’t pay random men for sex you won’t believe we find you attractive. pretty much yeah. dont you think the inability of women to desire men who are not celebrities is telling? women will swipe left on a guy one day and fantasize about him the next say of he becomes a famous actor. it just doesnt seem like genuine desire for one second. there is no reason to be sad for me, you can go donate to a charity if you want somene more worth your time to extend your empathy to. im just…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:08 PM
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So men who don’t visit sex workers don’t desire women? Men who don’t “simp for OF creators” don’t desire women? If it was categorically impossible to monetize womens bodies to men then yeah , I would start suspecting men don't desire women. No, not every man needs to use these services, but the massive profitability is very strong evidence that the appeal is there. the guys who simp for onlyfans and chronically visit prostitutes arent categorically different from me, they probably just have more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:25 PM
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i realize that. i just feel that celebrity obsession transitions from being "object oriented desire at men" and starts resembling those "vampire-billionaire, woman as the target of action" cases i addressed in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:10 PM
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isn't posting on a subreddit concerned about debating gender dynamics pretty weird behavior in the first place? i dont mind being weird, you shouldn't either. being weird is okay. but anyway, i just want to make sense of the world around me. its a pretty human intuition i think, and not necessarily all that weird. if i saw women visiting male prostitutes and simping for male onlyfans creators like men do then i would "log off and touch grass" concerning this topic, but all i can see is that sell…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:05 PM
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Sounds cool. Didnt we have a one on one reply chain on this a few days ago already? If you personally are physically into men then good for you (and your boyfriend), but I'm talking about the bigger picture here. If you believe many women are powerfully into men in an object oriented fashion, then why is making money based on exploiting that attraction such a categorical failure? I just cant get a great answer to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:33 PM
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Oh, I thought this guy was just a random body on social media, not an actual celebrity. Seems like we've transitioned from object oriented physical desire to celebrity worship which is an entirely different conversation. But thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:14 PM
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thank you u/Secret_Entry, very cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:22 PM
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psoeey if it sounds nitpicky, but to me it is epistomelogically important.i think that purchasing something for private consumption is the perhaps ultimate, most difficult to deny proof of your desire for it. it stops being plausibly explained by social performance, group bonding or autosexual affirmation at being desired. when you purchase something for yourself alone, you are the consumer of an object and nothing else. spending money on it means you value it above an irrelevant passing curiosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:14 PM
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Im sorry if it seems nitpicky, but to me it is epistomologically important. I believe purchasing something for private consumption is perhaps the ultimate, most difficult to deny proof of your desire for it. it stops being plausibly explained by social performance, group bonding or autosexual affirmation at being desired. when you purchase something for yourself alone, you are the consumer of an object and nothing else, and spending money on it means you value it above an irrelevant passing curi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:08 PM
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How unfortunate. Thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:01 PM
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i'm not sure if i am managing to communicate my message succesfully to you. maybe my english skills are just lacking sorry: i am from finland, not a native english speaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:28 PM
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are these guys selling their content?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:26 PM
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interesting. is guy successfully selling any content of himself to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:25 PM
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im afraid it doesnt help a lot. when i say "object" or "receiver of desire" i mean to say "target of action". i even provided the hypothetical "pretty boy as an object" example in the OP. I'm really doing by best here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:20 PM
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Im not sure if i can say it any more clearly, but i'll try: men surely fantasize of being desired and objectified by women. that men never do so is not my claim. what i am saying that im seeing zero evidence of women actively desiring male bodies for themselves in any mass marketable manner. the erotic media examples in OP were picked precisely because men ARE massive markets for adult content featuring women as objects. hell, isnt that typically the main female complaint towards men? that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:13 PM
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sounds like it might need a bit of mental gymnastics. how would you explain all the marketable trends i listed in OP that very much work on men, but not on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:01 PM
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I did not say nor try to imply that men don't ever want to be desired. Personally, I want to be desired, very much so. What I said was that women ONLY seem to want to be desired, but do NOT do desiring for men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:47 PM

how embarrassing for her. others exactly like it get millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:53 PM
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thank you for the diagnosis doctor. just to be clear, i dont think all women are lying per se. many just genuinely do not understand what desiring someone is like and mistake their comphet-induced actions or autosexual self centered fantasies for actual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:46 PM
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hope he takes the kids and runs then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:41 PM
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no, i legitimately feel sorry for them. imagine being ripped from the ether just to burst out from a female redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:39 PM
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please dont subject another poor and clueless man to your comphet nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:37 PM
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poor kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:34 PM
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it really isnt. it gets millions and millions of likes. a recent survey in UK showed that 35% of young women have a negative opinion of men, and the next generation trends to have an even lower one. women are pretty open about how much they dislike men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:30 PM
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Edward Snowden was a singular whistleblower too :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:55 AM
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holy shit lmao do women on r/purplepilldebate still try to gaslight men by claiming every woman doesnt have infinite options? tinder was released over a decade ago ladies, the cat is out of the bag, not even mainstream redditors LARP this hard anymore. so much for "purple pill", this was plain bluepilled nonsense even in 2013.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:45 AM
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Like I said, you have no frame of reference so its beyond difficult to convey to you. Do you really want a food analogy? Because a food analogy is all I got. Mens desire for women is in some ways analogous to hunger. Even shit food will do if you have gone without food for long enough. And sure a 2 hour dinner at a decent restaurant is preferable, but if im starving and all i get is 10 seconds at the fridge, i will drink yoghurt straight from the carton to sate myself. I simply want to sate my h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:38 PM
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I actually have no idea what this even means. I think you must mean something specific with "desiring a male body for itself" but I don't know what that is Funny. Not the first time I hear this from a woman. Explaining physical desire for the opposite gender to a woman seems analogous to trying to describe color to a blind person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:02 PM
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these epic "gotchas" women seem to love dishing out are a little bit lame. it also seems homophobic in a way. i cant turn myself gay any more than a gay man can turn himself straight in "conversion therapy". but whatever, have a good one lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:55 PM
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indeed, women just dont desire men and its pretty depressing. i do genuinely wish i was gay as ive stated earlier. getting to experience true mutual physical desire sounds like a fantasy come true to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:42 PM
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as a man, even 10 seconds of sex are better than no sex at all. its because i genuinely desire female bodies and want to experience them even if i dont get to do it as long as i would like. the contrast to what you say is extremely telling, it signals to me that even if you have the ability to enjoy sex per se, youre just looking to enjoy a performance, not desiring a male body for itself. thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:37 PM
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even 15 seconds is good if you actually desire the other person. you guys just keep digging your own metaphorical grave with these "counterarguments".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:23 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:01 PM

women still express their horniness, and the way they do it is by reading autosexual vampire billionaire fantasies or using a vibrator or a dildo to "scratch an itch". this tells me that the issue isnt just the lack of horniness, but the lack of desire for male bodies, specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:51 PM
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yes, i want mutual desire from women, and i know its impossible. i realize how unreasonable that makes me and i genuinely wish i was gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:11 PM
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dozens of women like that out there! dozens!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:02 PM
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i'd like to find a woman who feels actual physical lust for men. if you want to know what it looks like, look at the way gay men thirst for men. i dont want a blushing virgin. i want a gigaslut. as long as she actually desires male bodies - including mine - id be thrilled. you say women genuinely desire their husbands, i just see "mankeeping" at worst and autosexuality at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:57 PM
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Would it be alright if you were doing ‘the work’ during sex? If lol. ive been doing 99% the work every time i had sex. i havent seeked it out in a while because i lost hope in finding a woman who genuinely desires men but if you asked me before i burnt myself out i would have been more than fine with the proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:50 PM
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correct me if im wrong but it sure seems you just spent a good amount of time trying to stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:47 PM
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no you see water isnt wet and the sky isnt blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:43 PM
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no, people gave him ridiculous excuses rather than admit that the sky is blue and water is wet. i feel for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:40 PM
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depends on how you define it being gay. my personal observation is that the overwhelming majority of women are autosexual, with a slight lean towards homosexuality. anyway there is a lot of women out there. im sure theres a good dozen or two women on the globe who are genuinely heterosexual. the search for them continues. i hope sir david attenborough gets to narrate it when we finally find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:39 PM
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maybe he is compulsive because this far nobody seems to consider his arguments in good faith? to me its perfectly understandable that he would be a little compulsive. he just had his reality turned upside down by this revelation and everyone is acting like he is insane for seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:36 PM
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have you read the comments to this post at all? or the comments to all the posts he made before? his questions and logical deductions are completely valid yet the reception he gets is to be treated as insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:33 PM

maybe you should stop gaslighting him then and let him process reality? might help him become less paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:32 PM
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oh no, i observed women and made a deduction based on it. my deepest and most sincere appy polly loggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:30 PM
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weird how you are able to construct seemingly sensible text but at the same time seem completely blind. maybe you should have that checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:29 PM
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denying and shaming someone for deductions based on a basic chain of logic is an affront to me. its aggressive and harmful. some even call it gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:25 PM

good advice. i'll get the amulet that wards me against bad, unacceptable thoughts while at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:24 PM
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yep, closeted gay people in denial dont exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:20 PM

i thought women werent a hivemind and they like all sorts of guys? now youre telling me doing X makes you categorically unattractive. weird that women attraction hinges so strongly on men voicing socially accepted notions rather than their physicality. seems like women just dont desire mens bodies all that much :S
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:19 PM

TIL i hate gay people by acknowledging theyre not into the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:17 PM

oh no, the bad pill word!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:16 PM

"literally no interest" yet your porn consumption reveals you fantasize about it? thats a weird lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:16 PM

weird and unhealthy. let me just say i absolutely love this shaming technique that women are so fond of. instead of saying "shut up cringe incel have sex" you frame it in "im just so worried about you thats unhealthy :(". its genius really. i'll give you an extreme example: if you caught someone looking at child porn and they told you "im totally not a pedo i just watch it out of curiosity or whatever", would you believe them? if anything, the porn people look at reveals what they really like. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 PM

by reading real life statistics? thats a weird form of brainwashing. sounds almost like hes just acquiring information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:08 PM

quick, get him to the thought shelter to protect him from these dangerous observations that make him question things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:05 PM

TIL closeted gay people were erased from the face of the planet on 5/14/2026, ascension Thursday, 03:56:51 BST
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:57 PM

so true, ill go back to jerking it to men fisting each other, still 100% straight btw, why? because i say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:51 PM
1

"Women are totally into men, we just need 5 years of prep time, the 7 dragon balls, the planets must be aligned and i need to have rested in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to prepare for 15 minutes of sex". Or... maybe women just arent all that attracted to men. Whichever sounds more plausible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:49 PM

why not both? he seems a little compulsive but he is 100% correct to push this question. the proposition that a "straight" person is more aroused by their own gender than the opposite gender is just beyond absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:44 PM

im a 100% straight man and i prefer watching gay men fisting each other. i fact i play it at full blast 24/7. my neighbors complain and one called me a slur but hes just an idiot, men just know how to please male bodies better, nothing gay about it. i actually wish i was gay, i see hundreds of good looking guys every day but one good looking woman like once a year. the bar is in hell yet women still fail to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 PM

OP, let me just admire how based and redpilled you are for not relenting on this. You are a true seeker of truth despite all the pushback and outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 PM
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sure thing, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:34 PM
0

It’s not an unpleasant chore, but it’s a lot on a woman’s body and emotional state. "its not an unpleasant chore, its just an unpleasant chore.". not beating the allegations. please do go read the lesbian master doc and do read up on compulsory heterosexuality. you might discover something about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:17 PM
-3

sex definitely takes more time, energy, and effort it takes those things from women because you view it as an unpleasant chore. gay men do not suffer from similar issues because they actually want each other. as time consuming as babies can be, you can still find 15 minutes a day for sex if you actually want to have it. all this just demonstrates that women do not want men, at all. look up comphet and the lesbian master doc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:08 PM
1

agree to disagree. women are autosexual and "desire" men in the context of being aroused at the thought of being wanted by vampire billionaires billionairing vampirely, but the actual desire for male bodies is near zero. there are no porn mags for women (playgirl tried and failed miserably), there are no straight male onlyfans producers, all male prostitutes just serve gay men, not women because women arent interested in their services. simply put, if women had a demonstratable desire for male b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:04 PM
2

Attractive men have more sex for a reason and kids are made by... Attractive men have more sex outside of marriage for sure, but a husbands attractiveness does not seem to correlate with women's marital satisfaction so I'm not convinced even the mythological vampire billionaire gigachad minotaur is able to keep a womans performance of "desire" up for a prolonged time. It all just seems like comphet and autosexual meta-attraction, and women are genuinely unable to desire male bodies themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:29 PM
4

i think it would be a little bit more smart and perhaps even fair of women to not trick men into marriages with them by pretending to enjoy sex with them in the first place, unless you want to teach men that they should never trust womens displays of attraction and want them to internalize that women use sex and the appearance of desire to manipulate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:12 PM
-10

TIL having sex with your husband is as laborous as horseback riding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:32 AM
5

can we skip to the part where you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:15 AM

you have my sympathies, hopefully you can escape that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:52 AM
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energy, time, mental capacity See? You really view it as an unpleasant chore that takes herculean effort. Contrast this to the actual desire men feel: sex and the mere prospect of it energises and motivates them. For women it really seems like a tiresome performance that they would rather not do. And thats valid, you have the right to your own sexuality. But maybe you should do some soul searching and come to terms with the fact that you just aren't heterosexual and probably shouldn't date men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:51 AM

you live in afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:45 AM
1

mostly its just wishful thinking and a revenge fantasy. but there is a small measure of truth to it in the manner that womens looks are more tied to looking youthful, while mens looks are tied to stuff like height, which are less tied to youth. so a man will, relatively speaking, "age better" because he doesnt lose as much of what is considered to make a man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:24 AM
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im fully aware of womens autosexual arousal model, see my flair. but please dont call it "being into men", it has nothing to do with actual desire for men. look up autogynephilia and meta-attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:00 AM
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can i ask, why would you even marry a man and have kids with him in the first place, if having sex with him is such a hellishly unpleasant chore? i just cant see any actual desire here. comphet really explains everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:58 AM
3

Yep, they're not into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:48 AM
4

Its so fascinating that women will say stuff like this yet still insist that they are heterosexual and attracted to men. She clearly sees having sex as some unpleasant, stressful task thats something men are selfish for wanting, and the comments are full of women in agreement. Yet when you point out that maybe women just dont desire men they will swear up and down that you are just crazy for saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:43 AM
1

okay i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:58 PM
1

i dont think you are asking this in earnest, seems like you are just angry at me for some reason and trying to score a point against me. men very obviously do their best to be "attractive" to women (misnomer because its impossible for men to be attractive to them). its why "looksmaxxing" exist, its why men go to gym, its why PUA existed back in the day before it ran out of steam. men do anything and everything they can in a vain hope to "attract" women but it never works out because women just d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:21 PM
1

based babbler
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:11 PM
1

50% of marriages end up in divorce, 50% of marriages end up with dead bedrooms. doesnt seem like a good idea to take your chance. women just dont like men all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:01 PM
1

if you want to continue having a serious discussion im all ears. otherwise doesnt seem like theres much to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:42 PM
0

sure, some guy out there somewhere is having all the desire and the good times. didnt happen to me or my friends or men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:41 PM
1

yeah, women would really have to rise up to the occasion to prove they are into men. not a small task.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:05 PM
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happy for him (and for you). just doesnt seem to be very much the case with the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:57 PM
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transwomen, maybe, though the introduction of estradiol seems to end their capacity for physical desire too. desiring men just isnt built into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:38 PM
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Literally no evidence will satisfy you. I can only imagine this is a self-protective coping mechanism. Like how incels who are actually handsome can’t stand being told they are good looking and react with anger. Not really. If women behaved as thirsty for men as gay men do I would have no response. But they clearly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:36 PM
1

more than one person on this sub. many of us wouldnt mind a hoe if she was a hoe for us too. but its always just a dishonest performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:13 PM
1

granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:13 PM
1

for the record, i dont think anyone should feel shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:12 PM
1

maybe. i only have my lived perspective to reflect back on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:10 PM
1

I don’t want to put words in your mouth but what I’m interpreting is you feel men are ashamed of having single mothers or divorced parents and wouldn’t readily admit it? Is it because I’m a woman or just in general? in general? most likely, yes. on r/purplepilldebate? most definitely. we are discussing gendered dynamics here, to a man admitting he had no father figure to grow up with might feel like an indirect admission of being inadequate and deficient. after all he has no personal point of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:09 PM
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i am not accusing you of accusing men, but i am speaking from the perspective of a man. admitting to being from a single parent household is likely to make a man feel lesser even if that is not your intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:56 PM
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its like asking "whats your dick size". apart from guys who are lying for whatever reason, it would attract men who have large dicks to answer "i have a large dick" and it would most likely make men who have small dicks completely ignore the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:50 PM
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But if a woman desires you to grab her and for you to bury your face and wants to submit to you…that’s not real desire for you no, that would seem like her merely responding to my desire, not desiring for my own body. When a woman blows you she doesn’t really mean it? good question. no, when women have blew me i felt the implication that they were doing it as a favor towards me because they want to please me for whatever reason, not something they enjoy just for the sake of the act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:42 PM
0

because men who feel affirmed and positive about their parentage and feel like it might prove something in their favor would feel more motivated to answer truthfully, while men who feel more negatively about their single parent upbringing and feel like it might make them look less credible might feel less likely to reply at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:40 PM
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dont you think theres a chance that a question like this will attract men from two parent homes while men from one parent households will just skip it? in any case, i am from a two parent household yes. i used to dream about being like my father but im not so sure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:37 PM
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well, differently from what i see women prefer, i dont need to imagine her as a vampire billionaire billionairing vampirely to make me feel my inner godling being raptured. i don't get the "ick" if she does something awkward or says something that makes her seem less vampirely billionairic. instead i feel something analogous to a physical thirst. the shape of her body would make me feel a physical lust that is very difficult to resist or ignore. i want to grab her and very nearly consume her. i …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:25 PM
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no, masturbation would be using my hand while thinking of a womans body. when i have sex with a womans body i am fully focused on her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:00 PM
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It is epistemologically important that you discern the difference between sexual, object oriented desire for a physical body vs. enjoyment of a physical sensation. I've been with women who were "enthusiastic" insofar as they liked being fucked and liked riding my dick and so on ( that was almost 10 years ago when i had awesome hair, im a fucking bald loser nowadays so dont think im trying to brag ), but does this imply they felt a physical desire for my body? I didn't see it happening. I like ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:35 PM
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Seems you've probably read one or more of my replies. For a lot of women hearing that men only care about our bodies makes us think that men would have the same enjoyment fucking a coma patient as they would an enthusiastic partner. Since it’s just the bodies that they get pleasure from. I don’t think this is true. I think men get enjoyment from the things that women do too. I think men feel “like a man” if he can make a woman orgasm. If he can make her twitch and moan. That they like when we gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:19 PM
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All the women who masturbate to gay porn. It’s a very common category for women to watch. About 1/3 of women watch porn every week. Why are we watching men suck each other’s dicks and becoming aroused? Why do so many of us watch men solo masturbating? What is your explanation? You’re going to say no women watch women in porn and ignore all the evidence that women watch men in porn. Which is how many of them? How popular is gay porn to women really? Lesbian porn seems much more popular. 1/3 of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:45 PM
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you said you dindt value being desired, i did not comment on abundance or lack thereof. it seems apparent to me that wanting to desired is just about all female heterosexuality amounts to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:13 AM
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then why do all of your romantic fantasies focus on being desired by vampire billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:06 AM
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It seems pretty clear to me that women have no desire for male bodies at all, whether swimmer or bodybuilder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:03 AM
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You do know men also want to feel desired. Why do you think incels get so angry when we suggest they just see a sex worker? They want to be wanted. That’s a normal human thing. Why do men want enthusiastic sex partners? That’s always the top answers when women ask on Reddit how to make sex better. Men want enthusiasm because it makes them feel desired. Yes, wanting to be desired is perfectly human, I want to be dedired too. The issue is not that women want to be desired, the issue is that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:51 AM
1

perhaps these male strippers cater to the "male gaze" because there is no female gaze for them to cater to? but the idea that the guy would possibly think I was gross or ugly bothered me too much. now were getting somewhere. this is autosexuality: you do not desire a mans bofy, what arouses you is solely the idea of being desired by him. this is what i am trying to communicate, and the reason why male prostitutes cant make money without catering to gay men, why there are no heterosexual onlyfans…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:37 AM
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yet its still social behavior. its the same way women as a group might hire a stripper at a hen party because its so outrageous and fun and exciting and they are "soooo slutty omg", but women almost never seek out male prostitutes for one on one sexual encounters nor do they visit strip clubs alone like thirsty men do. all i see is a social performance, not genuine object oriented attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:58 AM
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nobody is watching tiktok is a social media. other women are watching them and reinforcing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:52 AM
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yep. i dont think i have to explain tiktok to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:44 AM
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nah, theyre just doing it as a social performance on tiktok. classic comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:41 AM
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comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:17 AM

im a 100% straight man and i prefer watching gay men fisting each other. i fact i play it at full blast 24/7. my neighbors complain and one called me a slur but hes just an idiot, men just know how to please male bodies better, nothing gay about it. i actually wish i was gay, i see hundreds of good looking guys every day but one good looking woman like once a year. the bar is in hell yet women still fail to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:16 AM
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so true, i watch gay porn on full blast 24/7 but im as straight as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:43 PM
1

so where are the porn mags featuring these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:19 PM
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look, youre cleaely an intelligent person and i hate repeating myself. like i said, mens looks are not irrelevant to women, but they are a part of a package deal. please lets get over the celebrities already, its getting tiresome. why cant non celebrity male bodies be effectively marketed to women? ive asked this more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:14 PM
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my basic argument is pretty simple, really. i believe that the vast majority of women are not genuinely heterosexual, but asexual (autosexual). They experience horniness, but it is directed inwards, not outwards like men do. and i am not saying that a man needs to be a celebrity to get laid and everyone else is a virgin. im saying that when these men bed women, the women are aroused by themselves and how the men manage to make them feel which includes things like status, narrative and even aesth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:08 PM
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Huh? I said I edited my comment to address this reply. Please don't get passive aggressive with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:48 PM
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Are you really arguing that actually I’m wrong and women can’t get causally sex more easily than men? What? No, absolutely not, please re-read what I was saying if thats what you took from it. My point is the opposite: women, when they want, can get casual sex very easily, BECAUSE they want it so rarely! if the majority of women were actually out there lining up for these top guys to fuck, they would be overwhelmed and the average woman might actually not get laid because the wanted guys simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:47 PM
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Could you keep your answers to the other comment thread we're having? I appreciate your civil responses but its hard to follow two different threads. I'll edit my latest comment and address this reply here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:33 PM
1

First, women can get casual sex easily because men have lower standards than women Isn't there a "the math aint mathing" situation here? If women desire (very attractive) men so powerfully, wouldn't these few, very attractive men have so much female attention that they wouldn't be able to answer all the demand and as such, unattractive women actually wouldn't be able to get sex so easily without paying? Second, women aren’t primed for the idea of having sex with a man who isn’t actually wanting …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:28 PM
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im not saying men being physically attractive is completely irrelevant to women, but it just seems to be a part of the package for autosexual attraction, not a singular object of desire. like others have put here, aesthetic appreciation is not the same as bodily lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:59 AM
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no, can't say i am. but let me ask: if women feel so much desire for this type of content, why was the playgirl magazine a failure? why are there no known onlyfans models with a following of female simps? why is the overwhelming majority of male prostitutes gay, when gay men are like 1% of the population while male attracted women are supposedly nearly 50%? why do gay men salivate after guys wearing jock straps while theres basically no sexualised clothing straight men can wear that appeals to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:55 AM
1

sure, just saying they aren't exactly rare outliers at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:48 AM
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okay then, thank you for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:36 AM
1

35% of women under 25 years old have a negative opinion of men according to a poll from UK. im afraid the views towards men voiced by women on PPD arent "truly bizarre" any more, but actually inching closer and closer to the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:35 AM
1

Celebrity worship fits quite well within the autosexuality paradigm. Don't you think its telling that these men need to be extremely high status for women to feel "desire" towards them? Its easily explained through self directed arousal. "I'm so hot these high status men want ME!". Can you provide strong evidence of women desiring male bodies when completely separated from status and / or it being a social event such as hiring a stripper among a group of girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:31 AM
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right, you feel angry and hurt and are expressing it. thats valid but youre not really contributing to the debate much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:28 AM
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please explain your reasoning. men like female bodies on a very simple, primal level, the same way a monkey sees a banana and starts salivating. for women it seems more like "monkey sees banana, feels nothing, until banana seduces monkey by vampiring billionairely, making the monkey feel very confident and affirmed in its simian nature then the monkey starts feeling something but not really at the banana."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:18 AM
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huh, this is pretty exactly what i replied to u/GattsUnfinished. generally speaking, women genuinely dont seem to be able to desire male bodies as such, only see them as "tools for pleasure" at most, something that makes you feel feminine and can penetrate you but that has no erotic value in itself. its strange that so many women intuitively recognise this but still insist they are "heterosexual". from where im standing its just asexuality with a preference for men because their functionality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:04 AM
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women get horny for sure, but not really "horny for men" from what ive seen. its a self directed arousal mediated by autosexuality, the mans role might be to affirm the womans femininity and desirability through contrast, status and behavior, but the man is very rarely the genuine object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:58 AM
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50% of marriages end up in dead bedrooms, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:26 PM
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i am not sure if "might makes right and thats the way it should be you stupid incels" is a philosophy you actually want a human society to operate by.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:55 PM

women have men they want to be desired by and want to be acted upon by. women actively desiring men is an incredibly uncommon phenomenon. just look at the real world. there are no heterosexual male onlyfans models with female simps. playgirl tried to market male bodies to women but failed. the overwhelming majority of male prostitutes are gay. tinder is a desert while grindr is an orgy. and so on and so on. the ONLY time women display "desire" for men is in an extremely, ridiculously autosexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:59 AM

this. someone told me swans are white but i saw a black swan once. what an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:53 AM

your attempt at irony is actually pointing at something real. you are welcome to challenge us at r/womenarenotintomen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:51 AM
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almost no woman really lusts after men, its all just "responsive desire" ie. autosexual self indulgence. if a guy wants to be in a heterosexual relationship he just kinda has to accept that. i dont see a difference between OPs hypothetical and ordinary relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:43 AM
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im the opposite of a simp but at the same time i wont pretend that men dont have a deep, intrisic need for a woman in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:26 PM
1

grab them by the pussy is an all time favorite of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 06:04 PM

sounds like a nice cope, hope it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:33 PM

women just dont generally really desire men all that much. if anyone here has ever been in a relationship where you went for a few days without sex, if she complains about the lack of it its because "she doesnt feel attractive", not because she is frustrated and really wants to jump your bones. expectations always exist of course, but women in general dont desire men, they prefer being desired and get their enjoyment off that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:57 PM
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Sure thing. Mom and dad, meet T-1001.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:54 PM
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women generally express a great antipathy towards men and feel very little actual physical attraction towards the male gender. as such, most male/female relarionships are quite humiliating for men, since women generally only tolerate men when they make it "worth their while" through status, money and servitude.50% of marriages end up wirh dead bedrooms, 50% end up in divorce which is almost always initiated by the woman. as a man i have to admit the prospect of an artificial companion instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:38 PM

watch phonk edits of thragg invincible aurafarming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:57 AM
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say what you say dude, at least he has an ethos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:39 PM
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what if its just comphet though? its a fact "straight" identifying women react with more arousal to images of women tham to men. "straighr" women just prefer men because its seen as the default, normal thing to do, and because men are useful since they tend to simp so hard for women, whereas women im lesbian relationships "know their value" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:13 PM
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well, the problem is that women find 80% of men to be repulsive and in tests straight idenrified women respond with more arousal to female imagery than to men. being desired is nice but it only really happens to a very small elite of men, unless you're gay in which case life is an endless fuckfest. most straight men are understandably miserable. but the cat is out of the bag, women just arent into men. i hope they make companion robots some day soom so men can cope better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:26 PM

now this post definitely has the makings of a high quality, good faith debate opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:03 AM
2

object oriented physical desire (male) vs autosexual meta-attraction (female).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:21 AM
2

thats just silly nonsense. theres porn for an infinity of different fetishes, men as a group genuinely lust for the female body in all its forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:20 AM
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holy shit thats tragic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:44 AM
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