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stop advertising your shit discord server.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:58 PM
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They get excited at the prospect of just being around guys and it makes their day. They tend to enjoy casual sex and seek out men for that. They truly enjoy men for just being male. From what I've seen, even the women you describe only behave that way because of insecurities or unresolved psychological trauma, not because they actually find male bodies all that alluring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:01 AM
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do you really think youre going to get honest and introspective answers to this? everyone thinks they are a good moral person who makes good moral choices, ask hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:43 PM
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comphet is a banned topic, reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:29 AM
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men watch porn and get accused of developing unrealistic expectations about women. meanwhile women are reading 400 pages about a 9-foot immortal minotaur demigod billionaire who imprints on them after one conversation. curious standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:55 AM
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you are not entitled to a relationship. whining about it in reddit says a lot. . if a relationship happens it happens. get a hobby and touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:10 AM
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maybe its your personality you need to improve then. you sound a bit entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:00 AM
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have you tried self improving?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:43 AM
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americans are just more open and in your face about it. european women care just as much, they just voice it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:58 AM
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yeah, by using dutasteride, minox, sunscreen, tret and exercising.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:40 PM
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too many retards buy into fearmongering about finasteride and dutasteride. r/bald for example bans you if you even mention them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:59 PM
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men, unfortunately, care a lot about having wives/families. lacking such thinfs means a big part of men will not thrive. they are unlikely to be strongly motivated to contribute to, or defend the society they live in. everyone has seen the "men live like this and see no issue" meme with an empty apartment. if men dont feel inclined to participatr in society then the economy will suffer, services will suffer, substance use will spike and social cohesion in general will suffer. im not even talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:49 PM
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easy, Nasim Najafi Aghdam
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:47 AM
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for non physical reasons, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:35 AM
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sure. now try to understand what the "physical" part means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:15 AM
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I would physically desire someone more, for [non-physical reasons] mull on this for a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:00 AM
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nobody said anyone must do anything, i was just explaining things so that you could understand them better, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:33 PM
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sure, anythings possible. point is that in the "immediate hookup" case the desire is more likely to be there, whereas in the latter case its no longer as likely be ause there are now other, equally plausible motivations for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:24 PM
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nowadays women make as much money as men or even more so it isnt the road to success with women anymore, and charisma isnt a bad thing to have but since most peiple meet online you dont really get to show your charisma before your looks make or break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:16 PM
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the fantasy is about being physically desired, not just tolerated because she likes you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:09 PM
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i would use a bad and unallowed word, but it is, well, unallowed. but i feel like Gen Z is learning women dont actually like being married all that much and women desiring marriage might have been more of a societal meme than anything intrisic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:08 AM
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Seems I am the most interesting man on PPD. When I post, people cant help but speculate about my private life, and If i talk about a topic the mods soon make an announcement that talking about it will be banned. Feels like being dangerous and high status. Like a vampire... who is also a billionaire, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:07 AM
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i have no mouth and i must scream.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:15 AM
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eh, if thats your take on my fleeting comment then whatever. thanks for your attention anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:10 PM
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source for "from what i can see"? my eyes mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:02 PM
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from what i can see, misogyny is isolated acts of violence that are penalized extremely strongly, while misandry is systemic and sanitized.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:28 PM
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the irony is kinda hilarious. i remember some time ago asking if women should try to make themselves more likable and was met with woman posting an endless list of self-appraisal that would make donald trump blush. she was telling me how great women are instead of spending a single thought on why a person should find them likable. it just isnt something they are concerned much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:11 PM
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this is such an ignored point. men spiral in angst trying to think of ways to make women like them and when they vent their frustrations online they are told to improve themselves more so that a woman may grace him with her presence. never has a woman ever been told to improve herself or make herself likable from what i can see online, they are told they should be accepted just the way they are. maybe women just dont like men all that much......
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:55 PM
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As a man, you just sort of have to delude yourself and ignore all the humiliating stuff about the male role in a relationship. then when she falls asleep next to you in bed at night its kinda pleasant and peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:51 PM
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nope, married women are disgusted by the idea of having sex with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:31 PM
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its comphet. women dont actually feel attracted to men, they feel "attracted" to their internal narratives. they get off on feeling feminine and desirable. the mans role is to affirm this feeling. women want men to be vampire billionaires whose attention makes the women feel all the more special and desirable. when you introduce vulnerability the vampire billionaire performance falls apart and she gets the ick. it all makes perfect sense when you stop pretending women like men and start acceptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:29 PM
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thanks, i thought it was clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:43 PM
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I see that you locked the ability to comment to your "response", so here it is: "The rules of the sub ask for no contentless rhetoric. Again I repeat that i am not interested in your anecdotes, and I granted that i probably should have specified that more accurately in the original post. Im sure you dont lack reading comprehension so im not sure what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:24 PM
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If your criticism is that I should have more strictly defined the parameters of my original post, then that is valid and I accept it. But for the record, I am still not interested in your anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:19 PM
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Your personal anecdote is perfectly valid, but it isnt what interests me. Im sure you understand that people might not come to a "debate" sub to hear anectodes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:12 PM
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Why do you so insistently want me to respond? If you feel that you desire male bodies then good for you, there isnt much for me to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:06 PM
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If you feel that it sucks then thats valid. I wouldnt say womens behavior doesnt influence mens attraction at all, but its not the underlying proponent of the attraction. Men have a categorical attraction towards female bodies, but they may feel other types attraction on top of that. For women, the baseline attraction towards men seems to not exist. Which is why I question womens heterosexuality and why comphet is a stronger explanatory model to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:42 PM
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If you dont want your identity questioned, you shouldnt base your identity on something as weakly supported as being a heterosexual woman. If I identified as a Christian despite being an atheist, anyone would be perfectly valid in questioning me, and me being outraged at having my "identity denied" would be irrelevant. It is not meaningless. It is a label that people use to explain who they are attracted to. Again the pokemon dialectics. Repeating something meaningless doesnt give it meaning. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:36 PM
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The debate is entirely about heterosexuality, and if you concur that women dont feel much towards the male body, then your asserted "biological realities" dont have much to do with the debate, unless you mean that you agree with me. Tbh that’s the only word here that’s loaded and nebulous. It’s a spook of a word based on how humans want to societally operate. It is fairly descriptive of the average man, but not a very accurate description of the average woman at all, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:30 PM
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well, if you want me to respond to whatever it is that you try to say, then could you please rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:28 PM
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sure, the intensity isnt specified, but if there is an overwhelming difference in their approach then it is reasonable to ask whether the phenomenon is actually the same at all. the definition of heterosexuality becomes meaningless if we dont adhere to any rigor. Gravitation to certain interests has nothing to do with sexuality either. Indeed, which is why I said your point was not a part of the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:27 PM
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Seems you agree with my points, I am not sure if you are trying to challenge or question me at all. But thanks for your response!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:25 PM
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How should we define heterosexuality then, if not by arousal towards bodies? I am not a religious person, I don't believe in "male and female souls" nor do I really buy into the more secular talk of "vibes" and "energies" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:19 PM
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You seem to be still under the impression that men and women are supposed to behave the same and you completely reject the idea that they are not. If we use the same term - 'heterosexuality ' to describe both genders, then both genders should exhibit it to a recognizable degree, yes. I don't think this is logically flawed or unreasonable. That is the same talking points some women have that say men dont like women as humans but only as sex objects to be conquered and purchased. Would you say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:17 PM
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Demonizing what exactly? I demonize falsehoods, not womens actual sexuality. Women should just let go of comphet and look inwards a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:10 PM
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There is no female equivalent because men and women aren't the same That is a non-answer, it would be great if people stopped repeating this like a pokemon repeats its name. Indeed men and women are different and I am exploring that difference right here. Would you say a guy that doesn't engage in the industry around the female body is gay? If it was categorically impossible to sell female bodies to men then yes, I would say that men are not all that into women. But as it happens, prostitution a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:08 PM
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By the way, an announcement is likely to be made by moderators soon regarding “comphet” posts and comments. This is just black pill but worse, as users like you are claiming not just that women are only attracted to male looks, but that they are not even attracted to men at all, which is even worse than black pill lookism. Expect an announcement this weekend. “Comphet” posts and comments will soon earn at least a 30 day ban much like black pill/lookist comments currently do. Figures, thanks for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:02 PM
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I don't believe I have invalidated attraction. I am questioning whether straight-identified women experience attraction to male bodies in the same categorical way men experience attraction to female bodies, and if not, is the "straight" identity warranted? You mention body hair, facial hair, thicker skin, etc. fair enough. But if those traits are genuinely powerful attractors, why do we see so little evidence of women seeking them out for their own sake? For men, attraction to women produces obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:56 PM
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heterosexuality is by definition categorical, yes, otherwise it would be called pansexuality. whether you think its a negative or not isnt really a part of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:40 PM
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im going on a very hypothetical tangent here, but for funs sake, could you imagine a world where lesbian relationships were as normalised as heterosexual ones? where you grew up with the expectation of finding a girl instead of a boy. perhaps tou might find yourself equally offput by the idea of being with a man as you now feel about the idea of being with a woman? "masculinity" and "dominance" that you admit you value over physicality are social performances that are not intrisically linked to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:37 PM
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thank you for your response! comphet really looks like the most simple explanatory model. if you look at gay men, you can see the stark difference of their very physical androphilia that lacks mystique and socialized expectations. the average straight identified woman definitely doesnt strike me as someone very physically into men. "straight" women prefer men in suits while gay men prefer them in jockstraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:33 PM
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what about a tall athletic woman with the jaw of olivia wilde, who behaves in accordance with "masculine" expectations and dominance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:31 PM
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dont you think the lack of a categorical attraction might be saying something? perhaps these women arent all that into men but their personal relationship dynamics, whatever they be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:23 PM
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comphet is a most definitely a feminist theory. it's also not about people who actually are straight. indeed, and i am trying to find evidence of that straightness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:20 PM
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"get over it" doesnt seem like constructive debate. thank you for your interest nonetheless!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:17 PM
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Im sure some men are like that, but the average mens responses are usually not all that difficult to decipher. they are intrisically attracted to feminine anatomy. but thank you for your respomse! womens lack of a proper answer does remind me of a certain feminist theory called comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:16 PM
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thank you for your answer! what about a transgender woman with a penis, or a lesbian with a strap on? is the desirability of the male body limited to the penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:14 PM
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redpill content still sees the woman herself as valuable, fds content sees men as vermin to be used financially and discared after the juice has been squeezed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:54 PM
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Women are generally autosexual, with very little to zero actual desire for male bodies. the phenomenon you speak of demonstrates that well: for a man to be "attractive" to women, he has to engage their autogynephilia. being "pretty good" doesnt trigger it. she has to see the man as a vampire billionaire who affirms her self-image, status, femininity, romantic fantasy or whatever else she is actually invested in. thats why women of all stripes converge on the same tiny "elite" pool of men. they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:52 PM
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Why do women partake in heterosexual institutions like marriage if they dont actually like heterosexual acts like sex? Its 2026, nobody is forcing you to be with men anymore. If the idea of being physically intimate with a person you claim to be into is so offputting, maybe you arent all that into him. Women should really try to confront and understand their lack of androphilia and move on, either as asexuals or lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:33 PM
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national socialists get a bad wrap too, they just wanted to make germany strong and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:10 PM
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right, so if 2 jobs are enough to survive by sharing a rented apartment with 3 other people and eating nothing but cup noodles every day, what are these lazy no good "working class" people complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:23 PM
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women talk about how they see 1000 gorgeous women every day and 1 good looking man once a decade and how they are decentering men and prioritizing their own peace over men. it kind of seems like any women who are alone, are actually choosing to be alone and are very comfortable with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:22 PM
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"if you are not willing to adapt to the job market, your complaints about the economy are unreasonable"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:11 PM
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so what is the birth rate delta between afhhanisyan and western liberal democracies?why are we having such a hard time with this :S
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:39 PM
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right, so their birth rate is 4.6 to 4.8. what is the average birth rate in western democracies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:28 PM
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did you know that lesbian women do in fact feel aroused by nothing but images of women? look up the chivers et al study. seems only "straight" women are unable to feel desire when they see the bodies of the gender they claim to prefer. you can tell me all about the exact zodiac signs that need to align for women to experiemce a shred of ""desire"" for men, all im hearing is that it isnt really there. but im not blaming you, it is what it is, you didnt choose to be like that so you dont have to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:48 PM
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every culture that every disappeared and every empire that has fallen, did have enough children. and how many cultures that did not have children survived? Culture is also ever evolving. do you foresee the people in western liberal democracies becoming biologically immortal soon? I also like to request a list of cultures today that aren't experiencing a steep-decline in birth rates. afghanistan comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:45 PM
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nobody is talking about military might here. its just a simple reality: if you dont have kids your culture dies out, the people who have kids dont die out. russia has nothing to do with this though, theyre facing the same demographic crisis the rest of us are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:34 PM
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i like desire and want it, you dont like it and especially dont want men to have it, its fine, we dont have to agree and im especially not interested in evpsych rationalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:31 PM
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i mean you might say that, but women absolutely love their vampire billionaire agp eroticas which are all about how much the vampire billionaire desires the woman and how affirming it is, so it really shouldnt be that hard to grasp that men might want to be desired too. yes, desire is nice. it is life affirming and one of the few pleasant things we humans get to enjoy in our short lives filled with suffering. it would be great if women desired men like gay men do, more desire for everyone, nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:54 PM
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we will be replaced by a culture that manages to replenish its numbers, simple as. traditional theocracies will re-emerge in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:15 PM
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capitalism, social media blahblahblah there are chimps in the jungle having brutal violent wars with each other. all of our greatest innovations like the haber borsch process or the internet were fueled by the war industry. humans and hate are a match made in heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:23 AM
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it would be the latter. i can be careful about not ending up in disfiguring acciedents but i cannot control the surrounding economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:11 AM
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that injury is as likely to take my status, performance and ability to gather resources too. but i dont actuallu need to end up in an accident to lose those things, simple economic downturn which happens quite often can do it too, no matter how careful i am about ending up in accidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:07 AM
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hubris: the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:48 AM
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most straight-identified women are asexual-autosexual (with or without a slight lesbian slant). they dont really experience any androphilia, the male body is more likely to disgust them than arouse them. read the chivers et al study, straight identified women are more aroused by female bodies than male bodies. heteronormativity has run out of steam and youre noticing it. there is no "going back to romance", the milk is spilled, the cat is out of the bag. i just hope they create passable girlfrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:44 AM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:28 AM
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beauty is a property of the person. my face, body, voice etc are me. status, resources and performance are external circumstances. if i lose my job tomorrow they disappear.if i fail to vampirely billionaire properly she gets the ick. thats why being desired for my body feels more personal than being desired for what i can provide or how much she enjoys my performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:15 AM
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feminism is just female chauvinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:19 AM
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studies (chivers et al.) find the average heterosexual identified woman doesnt really show any category response to male bodies. when i point this out, straight identifying women tend to say "we are just not that visual, its the masculine chakra we feel attracted to besides the scientists forgot to control gemini rising and saturn in the seventh house so of course they didnt react to stimuli of men duh", but interestingly, in these studies, lesbian identified women show a significant category re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:18 AM
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OP listed some common examples that women consider icks om men, like eating ice cream or using an umbrella. the theme was that these are completely innocuous human things, which take away from the attraction to the man, because a man who does such things no longer comfortably fits the vampire billionaire archetype which drives womens "attraction" to men. or that was my reading, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:45 PM
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yeah, being objectified for my body would be much nicer than being objectified for my performance, status and resources. my body is me, the latter threr are just circumstance. unfortunately only gay men seem to objectify male bodies, studies show women feel less than nothing when they view male bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:59 PM
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When women look for long‑term partners, traits like reliability, kindness, and emotional safety show up how flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:55 PM
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my reading is the opposite: he is saying that when women demonstrate attraction to men, it is in contexts where the men are straight up dehumanized. when the man is humanized, women get the ick and no longer experience attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:52 PM
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obviousy its not the same, but its something at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:02 PM
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or maybe women just dont like men and only tolerate them for their useful services, and when men no longer have those to offer women cut them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:25 PM
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whatever you do, do NOT look up divorce rates when women start earning more than their spouses. hint: it really doesnt look a lot like women are looking for a "teammate".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:11 PM
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"culling the undesirables is ok when my people do it against people i dont like". i really doubt you want to go down that road. or maybe youre an actual fan of peter thiel and elon musk, idk. i rarely react this way but your type of nonchalant bloodlust is genuinely making me feel a little uncomfortable, especially since our elites are absolutely gung ho about it as well, so i guess i will just disengage and go for a walk or something. consider this me conceding the victory of this debate to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:51 PM
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wow, that turned into a nazi approved eugenics program real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:45 PM
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again sounds fair, we might get banned for circlejerking instead of debating at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:41 PM
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But you would have to incentivize women to agree to work as state sanctioned prostitutes. And make it non taboo for those women. money Offer free STD checks and free abortions and free contraception and free and easy access to permanent sterilization. sure, sounds fair You would also need a society where these women aren't shamed and any man who gives a woman an STD is legally liable to pay off her contract if its a permanent STD that would make her unable to work in that field sounds fair anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:36 PM
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how do you separate any work from human trafficking? you regulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:27 PM
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indeed forcing people to do things is a non starter, but the issues of loneliness and sexual frustration are socially relevant. IMO prostitution as a controlled, well regulated socialised welfare/healthcare service for lonely men would be a nice start. eventually, sex/companion robots could replace these bandaids more effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:20 PM
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its just an entitlement gap, women tend to be incredibly arrogant and entitled. men work for their own orgasms, women generally speaking lie down and expect men to give orgasms to them without even attempting to communicate, in fact the idea of communicating their desires gives them the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:15 AM
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what im saying is that even women who do not show resistance are not guaranteed to actually be physically into you at all, they just want a man who will act as their chaperones and nurses and therapists because they are fucked up in the head, to put it plainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:26 PM
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women with severe psychological issues usually try to hide them when on the prowl for men, yes. then the relationship begins and the mask falls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:25 PM
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i dont disagree with the notion that women who play hard to get arent all that into men, but you should probably keep your guard up with the ones that "make it easy", too. a lot of screwed up women out there looking for men to lure into codependent relationships. honestly, mentally healthy women who are strongly into men are a rare breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:17 PM
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its because paying for sex is submissive, its something unwanted men do. women just get the ick and then rationalise it afterwards to feel like it is "justified".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:10 PM
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men dont actually have any privilege to guard so they dont mind women transitioning to men apart from maybe uttering "what a shame, she was hot" once. there are no male equivalents of TERFs. it is telling that so many women foam at their mouths at the thought of men transitioning to women: this is an attack on their feminine privilege and must not be tolerated. back to the plantation slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:06 PM
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this reads like it was written by donald trump. ranting and raving about how great and wonderful you are isnt a good way to demonstrate likeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:40 AM
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Shouldn't women take the initiative and prove they are likable for something other than sex first?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:57 AM
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if you dont want to be questioned, purplepilldebate might not be the place for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:45 AM
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incels dont have a monopoly on fatalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:43 AM
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i'd say this take is somewhat anti-incel. blackpillers believe women are strongly into men, just that it takes a "chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:37 AM
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she’s gonna end up with a man because that is what a “real” relationship is. Thats called comphet and basically the entire female gender operates under such socialised notions, which were necessary to construct since they lack real attraction for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:30 AM
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women surely can, but when their words dont match their actions we shouldnt take them at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:49 PM
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what can i say, they like their weddings where they are the centers of attention and sexless husbands who they can fleece at the divorce court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:48 PM
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yep, its hard to break through a powerful socialized institution like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:33 PM
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bi women date men instead of women because of comphet, not because of a wild raw physical appetite for male bodies. women plain and simple dont feel that way for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:23 PM
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incredible rhetoric. how were ornitologists ever able to study birds when they dont have wings themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:56 PM
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didnt take you long to get to personal insults. women can enjoy sex just fine, and even orgasm from it. i also orgasm from jacking off. doesnt mean im into my hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:51 PM
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that is just gay culture, not a failing of the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:38 PM
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When will people stop it with this sad nonsense? Online dating and the apps are just fine. Tinder works perfectly for gay men, as does Grindr. Women just arent interested in men, thats the only part of the equation that doesnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:09 PM
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Female employment and reproductive autonomy is about 50 years old, so not novel Gen Z women are the first women ever to outearn their male peers, however. Coincidentally, gen Z men are the loneliest and most virginal generstion of men ever. Turns out women arent all that interested in men who cant bring a material benefit to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:04 PM
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trust me, you dont. womens heterosexuality is just a socialised performance while mens heterosexuality is a never ending drug addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:02 PM
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it had perfectly valid methodology actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:09 AM
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kinda based but really theyre mostly just asexual with a slight lesbian leaning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:45 AM
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it did, back in the day. i no longer seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:46 PM
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hypergamy doesnt have an endgame. if all men below 6' were sent to the gas chambers like so many women seem to fantasize, it would then be the 6'tall men who are the icky short men giving women the creeps, ans so on and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:42 PM
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is desiring validation just thirst for a vain and meaningless ego boost or is it fundamentally human? we celebrate birthdays, graduations, marriages, and conversely, we mourn deaths. being noticed and considered important enough to be missed matter to us. if women do not stress about being single and virgins, it believe it is because most of them realize that its in their power to change that status in the same evening, not because men unilaterally rejected her as unworthy. alas, searching for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:25 PM
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false allegations, inherent in group bias against all evidence "not all women but always a woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:46 AM
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you really shouldnt be this interested in speculating about me, im a pretty boring person really. but if it sates your curiosity i can tell you i have an okay amount of experience with women, and i am friends with men who themselves have a decent amount of experience too. We talk. Nothing I have personally learned has made me believe in womens object oriented attraction at men any more tahn if i were a virgin. i asked you to be civil because thats actually a rule here. wouldnt want you banned in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:41 AM
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A man is still the target for most woken …. so can you please answer why selling mens bodies to women is an unviable business model? you really cant escape this without admitting that women do not desire mens bodies for themselves. that is object oriented attraction: when you have to relate it to an inward state to get any arousal out of it, it is by definition autosexuality. this really isnt that hard. you aren’t actually interested in discussing the differences in male vs female sexuality, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:28 AM
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try to be civil. no, the fantasy is dependent on what the man is (a vampire billionaire) and crucially, how what he is makes his attention affirm her femininity and desirability. it is as autogynephilic as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:17 AM
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object oriented as in "man/woman as the target": nothing more, nothing less. you dont need "my definition", you can go read up on autogynephilia by googling it. have you read every womans erotica I have a good idea of the trends and the bestsellers. I actually made a thread asking precisely if there are any examples of womens erotica that focuses on men as the objects of desire on here and got a pretty resounding answer of "we dont just like men for existing, they need to do something for us", w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:11 AM
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It really just is a silly "no u" since you seem to lack a real counterargument. Do men watch gay men giving blowjobs to men or do they watch women giving blowjobs to men? Because thats the "female pleasure" women concentrate on, not a male body in sight. Now, why is all womens erotica autogynephilic? Why is it nigh impossible to sell male bodies to women but very easy to sell womens self oriented autogynephilia to them im the form of vampire billionaire stories? Can you please answer these in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:00 AM
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"no u" isnt a worthwhile debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:52 AM
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yep, "straight" womens behavior can be completely explained by comphet + autogynephilia and it makes a much simpler framework than any alternative explanation they generally attempt to give for their observable lack of target oriented desire. all their erotic novels are extremely agp, it isnt an accident. its all about what the vampire billionaire does to her, not about him at all.this is what truly appeals to and arouses women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:35 AM
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could you provide some strong evidence of womens object oriented arousal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:30 AM
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i want to be desired for my body. only after that is established does the thought of respecting me for my values or whatever occur. desire is the currency of the SMP if you will, and without you are a pauper.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:20 PM
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one infinity vs. two infinities
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:31 PM
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even transgender women have infinitely more dating options than even the most good looking man you know fucking grim. but expected
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:11 PM
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again, if you think "wife material" is a bad thing, thats your pregorative, im not interested in convincing you otherwise. the two terms just have nothing in common so you arent really communicating effectively by bringing husband material up im the same context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:53 PM
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the terms have nothing in common so why even bring up "husband material"? if you dont want people to call out a poor analogy then dont use a poor example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:43 PM
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you can view it negatively if you want, i'm just challenging the equivalence you imply. "husband material" and "wife material" are not analogous terms at all since the first strongly implies a lack of attraction and the second one does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:38 PM
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thanks, its really annoying when people try to strawman me all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:02 AM
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side family? in this economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:58 PM
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tinder was released over 15 years ago, this kind of blatant, instantly disprovable nonsense doesnt really fly anymore im afraid. even mainstream redditors no longer pretend women cant date easier than men. its a little funny that the women on r/purplepilldebate still try to gaslight so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:36 PM
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it was performative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:27 AM
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comphet did the brunt of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:35 AM
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I disagree. My experience is that male groups express bonding and emotional intimacy differently than women, but not any less-than. When I broke up with my ex gf, i went on a drunken bender with my friends and played a lot of tennis the following weeks. Not a lot of "talking about feelings" or therapy speak, but I felt seen and heard and understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:33 PM
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most of the time when women use the words "entitled" or "entitlement" its like chuds using the word "degenerate". it doesnt really have a strict meaning at all, its just used against people you find icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:31 PM
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its just a classic case of women wanting something but not communicating it. literally the exact same thing as going to the store and bringing the "wrong food" because she didnt ask for what she wanted. but as usual all the blame is in men because men le bad or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:46 PM
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wouldnt it be easier to have this "skill issue" back and forth through DMs rather than thread titles?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:44 AM
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so be gay hello miss fundamental conservative christian. i dont know if the MAGA circles have heard of this yet but sexuality is not a choice, actually. Do you think your gfs or fwbs didn't desire you? not really, no. gf like the validation, fwb liked the idea of being with a "high status guy" until she got the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:59 PM
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nah, ive had girlfriends and fwbs and shit. i want legitimate desire. gays have it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:39 PM
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yep, take my soul satan
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:26 PM
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I guess it just comes off as so performative otherwise. If a woman sees bodies just like yours but feels nothing for them, how are you supposed to believe she actually finds anything physically appealing about yours? Its the asexuality I described in the hypothetical. You might be "comfortable" with his body but real physical desire? I don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:40 PM
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Why do I expect people to be attracted to the gender they say they are attravted to? Words should mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:05 PM
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or perhaps you're just not very observant, and accept what people say as the truth rather than what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:34 PM
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they really dont, not any more so than the hypothetical asexual i described in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:27 PM
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why do you think red/blackpillers discovered phenomena like "mogging"? why do you think that women are so fond of the "ick"? these both speak of the same phenomena: women are not attracted to men, only the narrative they sell themselves about them. when this narrative breaks, the "ick" occurs. a chad stops being a chad when he is surrounded by even taller and more handsome men. to me, there is no real sexual desire oriented at mens bodies to be seen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:23 PM
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no, but blind women are, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:20 PM
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huh, never observed it myself despite partaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:19 PM
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modern psychology considers "porn addiction" (porn brained gooners yada yada) to be hogwash, actually. you should look that up. its almost as if the difference is that women are not men. yes indeed, and my message is that the label "heterosexual" is not at all useful to describe women. asexual with autosexual leanings is much more accurate and informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:18 PM
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You’re playing word games with “observe.” I obviously meant observable evidence of an internal state, not literally seeing someone with your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:03 PM
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if it is impossible to observe, we might as well talk about ghosts and other paranormal phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:59 PM
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what qualifies for a lot? i jack off once a day and when i do i watch porn (or adjacent media featuring womens bodies). 15 minutes a day, thereabouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:55 PM
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why do they need to be celebrities before the performance of attraction begins? why do women perform the same attraction towards celeb men who they would otherwise ignore in real life? its just meta-attraction. the thought of this vampire billionaire wsnting you is affirming and makes women feel desired and feminine, which is what arouses them, as outlined in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:53 PM
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""heterosexual" women do not exhibit physical attraction towards men so they are most likely not heterosexual" is, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:51 PM
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moser discovered that agp is also very much present in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:49 PM
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yep, if you dont like it, its pseudoscience. if you arent interested in my arguments then why partake in the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:48 PM
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if you ask what my "dream world" is like, hoping to "generate" attraction is already a failure to achieve it. i would cerrainly like it of women were physically attracted to men like men are to women (or gay men towards men) but i would also like to have a trillion dollars and a 12 inch dick. i seek to form a coherent view of the world and that includes questioning what i see as a false performance of attravtion from womens part. i hold out some hope that our mainstream culture might one day ack…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:46 PM
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sexual arousal can be physiologically measured, though. men who say they like women generally respond strongly to female bodies. womens categorical attractiom in such studies has been absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:38 PM
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autogynephilia is a thing. if you find the man to be affirming to your desirability and femininity, you can feel aroused by his attention, but real physical desire for his body is more likely just a performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:35 PM
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i am not interested in explaining you or your friends, but general trends and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:30 PM
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oh no, someone is questioning my beliefs. ban him now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:29 PM
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"women need to have the 7 dragon balls, the man needs to perform the perfectly choreographed mating dance and the moon needs to be in the waxing crescent."or... maybe women just arent into men. have you ever heard of occams razor?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:26 PM
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youre making some pretty good progress here. a script indeed! its called comphet and it doesnt require a single genuinely heterosexual woman to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:23 PM
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again, enjoying physical sensation =/= orientation. many women enjoy using vibrators. does this mean they are sexually attracted towards them? im sure the same woman would enjoy a lesbian relationship just as much if society were as oriented towards them. look up what comphet means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:20 PM
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"any at all" is a pretty strong claim. there's more than 4 billion women om the planet, i'm sure SOME of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:16 PM
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Where do you see this lust? I just see autogynephilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:15 PM
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im saying that there is no discernable difference between an asexual faking attraction towards men and a heterosexual woman with "real attraction" towards men. the joke is that in describing an asexual woman, i described an average "heterosexual" woman to a T. its just a performance with very little to do with actual desire for male bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:13 PM
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i have met women who enjoy sex. enjoying sex is different than enjoying a body, i hoped to not have to write that out in too much detail and prolong an already longer than average opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:05 PM
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asexuals can enjoy stimulation. being asexual just means you dont have an oruentation towards bodies. i know it can seem confusing, but consider that a man can masturbate but he probably isnt attravred to his hand. it simply gives him physical stimulation. an asexual can enjoy a sensation but not have any feeling towards the body causing that sensatiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:03 PM
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its the same discussion really. in both cases the interest in men is performative. whether women are asexuals slightly leaning towards lesbian or lesbian slightly leaning towards asexual is a pretty irrelevant detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:01 PM
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And how would you gauge that in a way that categorically differentiates her from heterosexual identifying women? Do heterosexual women feel excited when they see a male nude?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:52 PM
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sex is life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:22 AM
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OP is pretty undeniably onto something. Womens in group bias is massive. You can look at any gendered online discussion anywhere and women very, very rarely call each other out, no matter how harsh the rhetoric may be. If a woman made the exact same post as OP with genders reversed, you would not see women attacking it like you see men attacking u/NewDuuud here. They thought to disagree with a "fellow woman" simply doesnt occur to them like the same does to men. Men would definitely stand to ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:20 PM
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hella based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:56 PM
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sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:42 PM
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its okay, sometimes comphet gets the best of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:25 PM
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please don't get me wrong. there's nothing wrong with not being straight! its completely valid to be asexual, lesbian, autosexual or whatever else you please! i just think calling oneself "heterosexual" when you clearly don't experience heterosexual attraction is a category error which should be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:10 PM
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who said anything about being "correct"? if you think men should be more like women then youre entitled to that opinion. just dont go saying youre into men when you most evidently arent. but now that you ask, yeah, men probably are the correct ones. desire is a nice and life affirming thing. more desire for everyone, and nobody would have to feel undesired if women were more like men. sounds like an utopia, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:37 AM
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entire discussion ruined because OP used the word "decent" instead of "polite" or "considerate"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 10:35 AM
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well, gay men are sexually interested in men so they dont mind quick (or instant) sexual escalation. it tracks that women arent actually sexually into men at all, which is why women tend to run away disgusted and screaming at the sight of sexual interest from men.which is why you might want to give girls a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:27 AM
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nah, theyre on grindr having the time of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:24 AM
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increased probability of having paid for sex was identified in men who were: men who were dissatisfied with their sex life men reporting having had less sex than they would have liked to men who had ever looked for or met sex partners online as well as frequent pornography users Wow, you're right! Truly these men are aliens from a different planet. Men who were dissatisfied with their sex life and had less sex than they would have wanted to? Say it isnt so, what a bunch of absolute perverted wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 08:03 AM
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hmm, gay men usually dont mind direct sexual interest, since they like men so much. maybe you could try girls if the idea of being sexual with men is disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:55 AM
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what makes them disgusted in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:09 AM
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sex and romance are tied at the hip. cant have romance without sexual intimacy and sexual intimacy often begets romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:57 AM
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maybe you replied to the wrong person? i dont think you said anything relevant to what i posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:31 AM
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Women being less attracted to men is a bs statement. They are attracted to men. Ask any woman in a hetero relationship. shouldn't we look at what they do instead of take their words ar face value? its near impossible to sell mens bodies to women. male prostitutes market to gay men instead of women. gay men are a small minority while straight women are supposed to be nearly 50% of the population. i dunno about you but to me that says something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:19 AM
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B seems like actual torture, while A is only slightly embarrassing. Male virginity isnt all that rare anymore since women are less and less likely to bother with pretending to be attracted to men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:30 PM
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worlds most endangered species, havent been observed ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:10 PM
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Ever hear of a bell curve?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:07 PM
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Thats very easy to answer. Women are not attracted to men so they don't feel it is all that important to seek them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:05 PM
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Quick, get everyone to the thought shelter before the truth bombs drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:50 PM
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yes, tried, for attempted murder on comphet, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:09 AM
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my female cousin actyally had piles and piles of yaoi books when we were teens. i checked a bunch of them out and the passive party most definitely was a female self insert lol. the exact same "Ana" archetype you find in 50 shades.and the active party, as usual, was a variation of the vampire billionaire werewolf serial killer alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:01 AM
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maybe you just arent into men? gay men dont have issues finding handsome men because, you guessed it, they are into men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:53 PM
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the passive party in yaoi is typically a female self insert.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:45 PM
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thank you u/Secret_Entry, very cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:22 PM
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How unfortunate. Thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:01 PM
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are these guys selling their content?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:26 PM
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interesting. is guy successfully selling any content of himself to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:25 PM
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im afraid it doesnt help a lot. when i say "object" or "receiver of desire" i mean to say "target of action". i even provided the hypothetical "pretty boy as an object" example in the OP. I'm really doing by best here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:20 PM
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Im not sure if i can say it any more clearly, but i'll try: men surely fantasize of being desired and objectified by women. that men never do so is not my claim. what i am saying that im seeing zero evidence of women actively desiring male bodies for themselves in any mass marketable manner. the erotic media examples in OP were picked precisely because men ARE massive markets for adult content featuring women as objects. hell, isnt that typically the main female complaint towards men? that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:13 PM
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sounds like it might need a bit of mental gymnastics. how would you explain all the marketable trends i listed in OP that very much work on men, but not on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:01 PM
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I did not say nor try to imply that men don't ever want to be desired. Personally, I want to be desired, very much so. What I said was that women ONLY seem to want to be desired, but do NOT do desiring for men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:47 PM
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how embarrassing for her. others exactly like it get millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:53 PM
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hope he takes the kids and runs then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:41 PM
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no, i legitimately feel sorry for them. imagine being ripped from the ether just to burst out from a female redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:39 PM
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please dont subject another poor and clueless man to your comphet nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:37 PM
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poor kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:34 PM
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it really isnt. it gets millions and millions of likes. a recent survey in UK showed that 35% of young women have a negative opinion of men, and the next generation trends to have an even lower one. women are pretty open about how much they dislike men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:30 PM
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holy shit lmao do women on r/purplepilldebate still try to gaslight men by claiming every woman doesnt have infinite options? tinder was released over a decade ago ladies, the cat is out of the bag, not even mainstream redditors LARP this hard anymore. so much for "purple pill", this was plain bluepilled nonsense even in 2013.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:45 AM
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women still express their horniness, and the way they do it is by reading autosexual vampire billionaire fantasies or using a vibrator or a dildo to "scratch an itch". this tells me that the issue isnt just the lack of horniness, but the lack of desire for male bodies, specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:51 PM
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maybe you should stop gaslighting him then and let him process reality? might help him become less paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:32 PM
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oh no, i observed women and made a deduction based on it. my deepest and most sincere appy polly loggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:30 PM
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good advice. i'll get the amulet that wards me against bad, unacceptable thoughts while at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:24 PM
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i thought women werent a hivemind and they like all sorts of guys? now youre telling me doing X makes you categorically unattractive. weird that women attraction hinges so strongly on men voicing socially accepted notions rather than their physicality. seems like women just dont desire mens bodies all that much :S
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:19 PM
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TIL i hate gay people by acknowledging theyre not into the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:17 PM
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oh no, the bad pill word!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:16 PM
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"literally no interest" yet your porn consumption reveals you fantasize about it? thats a weird lack of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:16 PM
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weird and unhealthy. let me just say i absolutely love this shaming technique that women are so fond of. instead of saying "shut up cringe incel have sex" you frame it in "im just so worried about you thats unhealthy :(". its genius really. i'll give you an extreme example: if you caught someone looking at child porn and they told you "im totally not a pedo i just watch it out of curiosity or whatever", would you believe them? if anything, the porn people look at reveals what they really like. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 PM
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by reading real life statistics? thats a weird form of brainwashing. sounds almost like hes just acquiring information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:08 PM
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quick, get him to the thought shelter to protect him from these dangerous observations that make him question things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:05 PM
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TIL closeted gay people were erased from the face of the planet on 5/14/2026, ascension Thursday, 03:56:51 BST
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:57 PM
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so true, ill go back to jerking it to men fisting each other, still 100% straight btw, why? because i say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:51 PM
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"Women are totally into men, we just need 5 years of prep time, the 7 dragon balls, the planets must be aligned and i need to have rested in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to prepare for 15 minutes of sex". Or... maybe women just arent all that attracted to men. Whichever sounds more plausible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:49 PM
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why not both? he seems a little compulsive but he is 100% correct to push this question. the proposition that a "straight" person is more aroused by their own gender than the opposite gender is just beyond absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:44 PM
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im a 100% straight man and i prefer watching gay men fisting each other. i fact i play it at full blast 24/7. my neighbors complain and one called me a slur but hes just an idiot, men just know how to please male bodies better, nothing gay about it. i actually wish i was gay, i see hundreds of good looking guys every day but one good looking woman like once a year. the bar is in hell yet women still fail to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 PM
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OP, let me just admire how based and redpilled you are for not relenting on this. You are a true seeker of truth despite all the pushback and outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 PM
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sex definitely takes more time, energy, and effort it takes those things from women because you view it as an unpleasant chore. gay men do not suffer from similar issues because they actually want each other. as time consuming as babies can be, you can still find 15 minutes a day for sex if you actually want to have it. all this just demonstrates that women do not want men, at all. look up comphet and the lesbian master doc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:08 PM
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Attractive men have more sex for a reason and kids are made by... Attractive men have more sex outside of marriage for sure, but a husbands attractiveness does not seem to correlate with women's marital satisfaction so I'm not convinced even the mythological vampire billionaire gigachad minotaur is able to keep a womans performance of "desire" up for a prolonged time. It all just seems like comphet and autosexual meta-attraction, and women are genuinely unable to desire male bodies themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:29 PM
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i think it would be a little bit more smart and perhaps even fair of women to not trick men into marriages with them by pretending to enjoy sex with them in the first place, unless you want to teach men that they should never trust womens displays of attraction and want them to internalize that women use sex and the appearance of desire to manipulate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:12 PM
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TIL having sex with your husband is as laborous as horseback riding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:32 AM
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can we skip to the part where you answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:15 AM
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you have my sympathies, hopefully you can escape that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:52 AM
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energy, time, mental capacity See? You really view it as an unpleasant chore that takes herculean effort. Contrast this to the actual desire men feel: sex and the mere prospect of it energises and motivates them. For women it really seems like a tiresome performance that they would rather not do. And thats valid, you have the right to your own sexuality. But maybe you should do some soul searching and come to terms with the fact that you just aren't heterosexual and probably shouldn't date men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:51 AM
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you live in afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:45 AM
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mostly its just wishful thinking and a revenge fantasy. but there is a small measure of truth to it in the manner that womens looks are more tied to looking youthful, while mens looks are tied to stuff like height, which are less tied to youth. so a man will, relatively speaking, "age better" because he doesnt lose as much of what is considered to make a man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:24 AM
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im fully aware of womens autosexual arousal model, see my flair. but please dont call it "being into men", it has nothing to do with actual desire for men. look up autogynephilia and meta-attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:00 AM
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can i ask, why would you even marry a man and have kids with him in the first place, if having sex with him is such a hellishly unpleasant chore? i just cant see any actual desire here. comphet really explains everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:58 AM
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Yep, they're not into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:48 AM
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Its so fascinating that women will say stuff like this yet still insist that they are heterosexual and attracted to men. She clearly sees having sex as some unpleasant, stressful task thats something men are selfish for wanting, and the comments are full of women in agreement. Yet when you point out that maybe women just dont desire men they will swear up and down that you are just crazy for saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:43 AM
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based babbler
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:11 PM
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more than one person on this sub. many of us wouldnt mind a hoe if she was a hoe for us too. but its always just a dishonest performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:13 PM
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for the record, i dont think anyone should feel shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:12 PM
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maybe. i only have my lived perspective to reflect back on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:10 PM
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I don’t want to put words in your mouth but what I’m interpreting is you feel men are ashamed of having single mothers or divorced parents and wouldn’t readily admit it? Is it because I’m a woman or just in general? in general? most likely, yes. on r/purplepilldebate? most definitely. we are discussing gendered dynamics here, to a man admitting he had no father figure to grow up with might feel like an indirect admission of being inadequate and deficient. after all he has no personal point of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:09 PM
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i am not accusing you of accusing men, but i am speaking from the perspective of a man. admitting to being from a single parent household is likely to make a man feel lesser even if that is not your intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:56 PM
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its like asking "whats your dick size". apart from guys who are lying for whatever reason, it would attract men who have large dicks to answer "i have a large dick" and it would most likely make men who have small dicks completely ignore the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:50 PM
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But if a woman desires you to grab her and for you to bury your face and wants to submit to you…that’s not real desire for you no, that would seem like her merely responding to my desire, not desiring for my own body. When a woman blows you she doesn’t really mean it? good question. no, when women have blew me i felt the implication that they were doing it as a favor towards me because they want to please me for whatever reason, not something they enjoy just for the sake of the act itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:42 PM
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because men who feel affirmed and positive about their parentage and feel like it might prove something in their favor would feel more motivated to answer truthfully, while men who feel more negatively about their single parent upbringing and feel like it might make them look less credible might feel less likely to reply at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:40 PM
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dont you think theres a chance that a question like this will attract men from two parent homes while men from one parent households will just skip it? in any case, i am from a two parent household yes. i used to dream about being like my father but im not so sure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:37 PM
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well, differently from what i see women prefer, i dont need to imagine her as a vampire billionaire billionairing vampirely to make me feel my inner godling being raptured. i don't get the "ick" if she does something awkward or says something that makes her seem less vampirely billionairic. instead i feel something analogous to a physical thirst. the shape of her body would make me feel a physical lust that is very difficult to resist or ignore. i want to grab her and very nearly consume her. i …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:25 PM
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no, masturbation would be using my hand while thinking of a womans body. when i have sex with a womans body i am fully focused on her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:00 PM
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It is epistemologically important that you discern the difference between sexual, object oriented desire for a physical body vs. enjoyment of a physical sensation. I've been with women who were "enthusiastic" insofar as they liked being fucked and liked riding my dick and so on ( that was almost 10 years ago when i had awesome hair, im a fucking bald loser nowadays so dont think im trying to brag ), but does this imply they felt a physical desire for my body? I didn't see it happening. I like ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:35 PM
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Seems you've probably read one or more of my replies. For a lot of women hearing that men only care about our bodies makes us think that men would have the same enjoyment fucking a coma patient as they would an enthusiastic partner. Since it’s just the bodies that they get pleasure from. I don’t think this is true. I think men get enjoyment from the things that women do too. I think men feel “like a man” if he can make a woman orgasm. If he can make her twitch and moan. That they like when we gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:19 PM
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you said you dindt value being desired, i did not comment on abundance or lack thereof. it seems apparent to me that wanting to desired is just about all female heterosexuality amounts to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:13 AM
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then why do all of your romantic fantasies focus on being desired by vampire billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:06 AM
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im a 100% straight man and i prefer watching gay men fisting each other. i fact i play it at full blast 24/7. my neighbors complain and one called me a slur but hes just an idiot, men just know how to please male bodies better, nothing gay about it. i actually wish i was gay, i see hundreds of good looking guys every day but one good looking woman like once a year. the bar is in hell yet women still fail to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:16 AM
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so true, i watch gay porn on full blast 24/7 but im as straight as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:43 PM
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look, youre cleaely an intelligent person and i hate repeating myself. like i said, mens looks are not irrelevant to women, but they are a part of a package deal. please lets get over the celebrities already, its getting tiresome. why cant non celebrity male bodies be effectively marketed to women? ive asked this more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:14 PM
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Are you really arguing that actually I’m wrong and women can’t get causally sex more easily than men? What? No, absolutely not, please re-read what I was saying if thats what you took from it. My point is the opposite: women, when they want, can get casual sex very easily, BECAUSE they want it so rarely! if the majority of women were actually out there lining up for these top guys to fuck, they would be overwhelmed and the average woman might actually not get laid because the wanted guys simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:47 PM
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Could you keep your answers to the other comment thread we're having? I appreciate your civil responses but its hard to follow two different threads. I'll edit my latest comment and address this reply here too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:33 PM
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First, women can get casual sex easily because men have lower standards than women Isn't there a "the math aint mathing" situation here? If women desire (very attractive) men so powerfully, wouldn't these few, very attractive men have so much female attention that they wouldn't be able to answer all the demand and as such, unattractive women actually wouldn't be able to get sex so easily without paying? Second, women aren’t primed for the idea of having sex with a man who isn’t actually wanting …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:28 PM
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im not saying men being physically attractive is completely irrelevant to women, but it just seems to be a part of the package for autosexual attraction, not a singular object of desire. like others have put here, aesthetic appreciation is not the same as bodily lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:59 AM
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no, can't say i am. but let me ask: if women feel so much desire for this type of content, why was the playgirl magazine a failure? why are there no known onlyfans models with a following of female simps? why is the overwhelming majority of male prostitutes gay, when gay men are like 1% of the population while male attracted women are supposedly nearly 50%? why do gay men salivate after guys wearing jock straps while theres basically no sexualised clothing straight men can wear that appeals to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:55 AM
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sure, just saying they aren't exactly rare outliers at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:48 AM
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okay then, thank you for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:36 AM
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35% of women under 25 years old have a negative opinion of men according to a poll from UK. im afraid the views towards men voiced by women on PPD arent "truly bizarre" any more, but actually inching closer and closer to the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:35 AM
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Celebrity worship fits quite well within the autosexuality paradigm. Don't you think its telling that these men need to be extremely high status for women to feel "desire" towards them? Its easily explained through self directed arousal. "I'm so hot these high status men want ME!". Can you provide strong evidence of women desiring male bodies when completely separated from status and / or it being a social event such as hiring a stripper among a group of girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:31 AM
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right, you feel angry and hurt and are expressing it. thats valid but youre not really contributing to the debate much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:28 AM
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please explain your reasoning. men like female bodies on a very simple, primal level, the same way a monkey sees a banana and starts salivating. for women it seems more like "monkey sees banana, feels nothing, until banana seduces monkey by vampiring billionairely, making the monkey feel very confident and affirmed in its simian nature then the monkey starts feeling something but not really at the banana."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:18 AM
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huh, this is pretty exactly what i replied to u/GattsUnfinished. generally speaking, women genuinely dont seem to be able to desire male bodies as such, only see them as "tools for pleasure" at most, something that makes you feel feminine and can penetrate you but that has no erotic value in itself. its strange that so many women intuitively recognise this but still insist they are "heterosexual". from where im standing its just asexuality with a preference for men because their functionality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:04 AM
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women get horny for sure, but not really "horny for men" from what ive seen. its a self directed arousal mediated by autosexuality, the mans role might be to affirm the womans femininity and desirability through contrast, status and behavior, but the man is very rarely the genuine object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:58 AM
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50% of marriages end up in dead bedrooms, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:26 PM
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i am not sure if "might makes right and thats the way it should be you stupid incels" is a philosophy you actually want a human society to operate by.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:55 PM
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women have men they want to be desired by and want to be acted upon by. women actively desiring men is an incredibly uncommon phenomenon. just look at the real world. there are no heterosexual male onlyfans models with female simps. playgirl tried to market male bodies to women but failed. the overwhelming majority of male prostitutes are gay. tinder is a desert while grindr is an orgy. and so on and so on. the ONLY time women display "desire" for men is in an extremely, ridiculously autosexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:59 AM
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this. someone told me swans are white but i saw a black swan once. what an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:53 AM
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your attempt at irony is actually pointing at something real. you are welcome to challenge us at r/womenarenotintomen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:51 AM
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almost no woman really lusts after men, its all just "responsive desire" ie. autosexual self indulgence. if a guy wants to be in a heterosexual relationship he just kinda has to accept that. i dont see a difference between OPs hypothetical and ordinary relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:43 AM
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sounds like a nice cope, hope it works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 05:33 PM
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women just dont generally really desire men all that much. if anyone here has ever been in a relationship where you went for a few days without sex, if she complains about the lack of it its because "she doesnt feel attractive", not because she is frustrated and really wants to jump your bones. expectations always exist of course, but women in general dont desire men, they prefer being desired and get their enjoyment off that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:57 PM
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Sure thing. Mom and dad, meet T-1001.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:54 PM
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women generally express a great antipathy towards men and feel very little actual physical attraction towards the male gender. as such, most male/female relarionships are quite humiliating for men, since women generally only tolerate men when they make it "worth their while" through status, money and servitude.50% of marriages end up wirh dead bedrooms, 50% end up in divorce which is almost always initiated by the woman. as a man i have to admit the prospect of an artificial companion instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:38 PM
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watch phonk edits of thragg invincible aurafarming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:57 AM
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say what you say dude, at least he has an ethos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:39 PM
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what if its just comphet though? its a fact "straight" identifying women react with more arousal to images of women tham to men. "straighr" women just prefer men because its seen as the default, normal thing to do, and because men are useful since they tend to simp so hard for women, whereas women im lesbian relationships "know their value" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:13 PM
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well, the problem is that women find 80% of men to be repulsive and in tests straight idenrified women respond with more arousal to female imagery than to men. being desired is nice but it only really happens to a very small elite of men, unless you're gay in which case life is an endless fuckfest. most straight men are understandably miserable. but the cat is out of the bag, women just arent into men. i hope they make companion robots some day soom so men can cope better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:26 PM
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now this post definitely has the makings of a high quality, good faith debate opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:03 AM
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object oriented physical desire (male) vs autosexual meta-attraction (female).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:21 AM
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thats just silly nonsense. theres porn for an infinity of different fetishes, men as a group genuinely lust for the female body in all its forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:20 AM
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