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Thats unfortunate. But it's just an exception, not a statistic. It could be great to make some studies about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:28 PM
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Yesh you're right, but I would still argue you that there is more benefit than downsides. Like it either benefit you greatly or don't really do anything except having friends (neutral)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:27 PM
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Thanks mate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:02 AM
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Tbh I started as an average nerdy guy with social akwardness. At the beginning I was introduced to some Red pill contents that I found strange. Spending my time with women was the thing that helped me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:02 AM
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Interesting, thanks for sharing your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:38 PM
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Yes, this is it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:36 PM
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It's interresting, maybe there dhould be studies about that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:10 AM
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I agree with the premise. It benefited a lot for someone like me. Especially when I was not attractive to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:10 AM
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This is great! I completly agree. I realized I didn't mention them. Indeed you learn those things when you're in the field. Their friendship works the same about planning. You understand their social cues and what they find attractive by being within your group. At the beginning as why "What? She is attracted to him." and I was often met with a "It's obvious! You didn't see it?". I agree, they want a genuine man. Tbh when you're a man with a plan (plainning dates, giving ideas, planning for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:37 AM
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This is an interressting take. But a functional couple is filled with people who want to understand their partner's need and contribute to it Being an acquitance is really easy but close friendship is still hard though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:25 AM
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Yes, of course you can't get any women (there are preferences and compatibility). But all those aspect decide to how many women you can talk to and how many would consider
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:22 AM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:17 PM
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Agreed🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:06 PM
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Thanks mate! I also agree I came from an average state. I learned how to interract, socialize and the art of grooming. It was a great help tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:05 PM
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I'd rather not know how my women friends think. It's a mix of black pill, red pill, some delusional illogical nonsense and lack of self reflection. This sound like ideas comming from a male friend/influencer than genuine friendship with women tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:02 PM
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This is great! And did they opened up about their perspective of dating and how they see men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:59 PM
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Yep that's what I wrote👍 Except their advice can be still valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:57 PM
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This is a good point👍 Attractive men have a great leverage compared to unattractive men. I want to know what is your definition of an attractive man for a woman perspective, this look very interresting maybe it could explain your POV
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:56 PM
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Thanks for your feedback, I agree with you and your corrections are gold
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:49 PM
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Thanks for your feedback! This is an interressting pov. Yep, as a nerdy introvert who didn't know how to dress or interract with people, being with women helped me greatly. But in general people don't really see that if they were friends with women from the beginning. But yes, there is a difference between having some connexions and using those connexions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:39 PM
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Sorry, reading your response made me realize you didn't experienced that since you had the same arguments as me before. But you're right, everybody can have their own thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:20 PM
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Thanks mate. But tbh I got from a "nobody is interrested to me" to a "a group of women is interrested to me" after I improved I am a nerdy guy who work in computer sciences. I am under 6 foot tall and make less than 90k a year, also I have a pretty average face. I had to develop other attractive traits to get better. But it's true that it's really hard to enter but it keep getting easier with time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:14 PM
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Strange, tbh I got from an "nobody is interrested to me" to a "a group of women is interrested to me" after I improved I am a nerdy guy who work in computer sciences. I am under 6 foot tall and make less than 90k a year, also I have a pretty average face. I had to develop other attractive traits to get better. But it's true that it's really hard to enter but it keep getting easier with time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:55 PM
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Interesting, match making can be an option, it happened to me. But are you sure you get close enougth to be the kind of friend they can open up to? Generally, if you're good, you get opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:48 PM
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Strange, in my case and for other friend, it was just a matter to discuss exclusivity since we're looking for a commited relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:44 PM
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Thanks for your feedback! Yes I agree, it still works even though there are some exceptions. Are you wanting men that don’t see women as humans to start befriending them in order to better their dating life? Because that’s how a lot of people would interpret your post. And frankly, I think that’s an awful idea. Good point. Indeed, in order to increase your dating life you should at least see women as human beings for a basis. What better way to learn to know better! If I have a friend A and a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:42 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:34 PM
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Strange, I didn't mention you should ask them to help you get a girlfriend but to befriend them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:32 PM
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Yep I see women as human. I just know than soft skills and socializing with the right people get you far in life. It really makes things easier and introduce you to great people👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:30 PM
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Yep I agree, one can learn by studies but it's way better to see close up behaviours, especially if the people you're observing are your friends. Also there is a certain level of closeness where a woman is more open to you. If she gives bad advices so she can looks politically correct, your more of an acquitance than a real friend No, this doesn't work being around women isn't going to suddenly turn a 3/10 into a 5/10 or a 5/10 into a 7/10 to women. Didn't you hear stories were the woman find th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:24 PM
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This is interresting. Why? Did I miss something or forgot to take into account some elements?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:12 PM
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Thanks for the adjustment. It still work but the intensity can vary
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:09 PM
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Having connection is good, but using them correctly is something else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:38 PM
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Yep, it still is a great advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:33 PM
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Thanks for your response! I'd rather not know how my women friends think. It's a mix of black pill, red pill, some delusional illogical nonsense and lack of self reflection. So you don't know. Also women are noticing that you are not one of their girl friends. They just don't say it out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:22 PM
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Thanks for your response. Indeed, at least it helps more than not having female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:33 PM
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I think the problem also come from an individualistic culture. Advertisement and media promote an independent life centered around the "self". So that people are more there to get than to give. Also, it's better to sell 2 tv, two sofa or two house for two single people or two divorced people. Even better if no one is borrowing the vending maching from their neighbours: that's another sale!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:34 PM
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I didn't know. So there are apps with better interfaces
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:21 PM
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Well, depend of wich kind of online dating. Dating apps are biased because the algorithm is there to show you people who will render the most attention (physical attractiveness from the pictures). It also lead to paralysis choice and people who prefer to "play" in this field expecting greener grass insted of finding the one compatible (the "maxers") I don't know how IG or Facebook dating looks like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:03 AM
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I admire people who have what I don't have, but is it romantic love? I think it contribute better to the friendship part of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:57 AM
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Yes dating is not as different as work life, there should be a bit of performance to won potential mates, so it can bring you confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:55 AM
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I mean it's your right. To each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:25 PM
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University is still better than a chat group from internet though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:24 PM
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And? Is it a great reason to follow men who give worst advices. Common, we can do better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:17 PM
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Yep, there are people (especially toxic women) who like to weaponize emotional withdraw. Why would I pretend women give 2 poos about "who I am", when the only woman in my life for who I am is my mom? How to say you didn't try without saying you didn't try
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:15 PM
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Yes, you got the point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:02 PM
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Yes, they see money and attention from a large community, so they exploit it. It is not that different than gamer girls. There are also performative males in female spaces who got a lot of attention and popularity. Be it men or women, there are a lot of opportunists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:27 AM
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Wow, that looks like a good mix to attract toxic people (men and women)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:24 AM
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Yeah, I agree, it pretty sucks to ask them directly. That's why it's better to merge with their world and observe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:56 AM
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Sound sofisticated enougth to fool people. I will talk with facts since it's what RP like. It has been decades feminism exists as a field in university while RP is just a bunch of dudes getting together to find a way to fuck pussies. The quality of the studies both branches produce is quite significant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:03 AM
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This looks like a good trick. Wich advice did you reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:56 AM
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I will just cite one comment that said it better than me: "It’s a stupid analogy because fish don’t want to be caught. If you are trying to get women who don’t want you, that’s the problem. If you have to trick a woman into being with you then YOU are the problem. " So the spoiler?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:55 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:54 AM
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This is a great advice. TRP wouldn't exists if some men did find a IRL fisherman. There should be more people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:41 AM
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Congrats for your girlfriend. But you have a real narrow view of what women can do for you. They didn't have to be friend with the woman you like. You learn from them how women think, you understand that physical attractiveness is part of what a woman find attractive. You learn about what women like to in term of how you look, being seen with other women make you attractive, you learn how to interact with women with no need to do cold approach, you know what female friendship mean. You learn to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:24 AM
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What am I reading? Do you know how easy it is to navigate dating when you have female friends? Like, did you even try once? Like you don't want to do things on easy mode?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:09 PM
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Yep this is what I wrote. I am not dismissing all male advices I just put something more logical than the Fisherman's fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:58 PM
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This is funny because what you're saying about women is the same thing I say about RPillers. Also you don't have hide yourself into sofisticated words. You are good as you are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:40 PM
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I agree, I am not saying we should go back to what women tell us about dating but avoiding falling for the fisherman fallacy. Also it doesn't look that obvious to tell what's good from what's bad given the amount of RP followers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:34 PM
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Yes, but seeing the posts in this sub and in subs like TRP make me think a lot of men don't know how to filter good ones from bad ones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:28 PM
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Good comment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:32 PM
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I agree with what you say but I think a lot of men don't makes the effort to filter who they get advices from. If it was the case, we wouldn't have those weird posts in this sub and in TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:28 PM
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It's so silly. Because if you asked a fish, it's going to tell exactly what it likes to be caught. I don't agree with that. The rest is completely right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:27 PM
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I am not sure about the brotherhood but I agree with the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:25 PM
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Completly agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:23 PM
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I still don't agree with the fact of following any man who pretend he get girls. I had to work in business and I have met people with a big mouth but little competences. There are just there to take your money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:23 PM
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I agree but my saying is more common sense than Red Pill (it existed way before RP)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:19 PM
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Thanks, I think some men need to wake up. The hater gonna hate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:40 PM
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Tbh I think women bring their perspective to the table and some advantage of the way their socializing. They are generally the ones who take the mental load in a relationship (not that men don't do that but women tend to take more) I don't expect more from women except not weaponizing victimhood on social media or weaponizing their social circle against their partner or gate keeping child care or housework
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:12 AM
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Legendary😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:49 AM
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True story, but you completly got wrong the provider mentality. When you're providing for someone, you give a lot, so you won't do that to anyone. You become more selective to who deserve your care. Women do the same but it's about other things (being wife material)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:44 AM
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I have never seen men not approaching as a passivity. People can do what they want. And trust me, when you're a catch things will evolves by themself. Women also approach more than what you think, it's not just the same way as men. They have the tendency of stalking you online, know about your lifestyle and try to gravitate a lot around you. But yes, both men and women should be hold accountable in dating and in relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:16 AM
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This is true. There are women who will do anything to be in a relationship or secure marriage. Some can even go with manipulation or baby trapping. But dead bedrooms have another origine generally. There is an orgasm gap between men and women. There are some biological factors. Men need to orgasm to produce semence while women don't need that to have children (that's why rape is so bad because it come with a potial child from your agressor even when you don't like it). Also, society is generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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Yes, this is correct. The opposit of love isn't hatred but indifference. The best move is to detach from the outcome and focus on what you could do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:20 PM
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Interresting but the "just go out" won't work as well as in the 90s. It's better to find a 3rd place to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:17 PM
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Men and women can be bad during the dating phase and bad during the relationship. But why are you saying that? Something triggered you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:12 PM
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You're right, there are things like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:47 PM
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People should delete dating apps IMO but I think conversation rating could improve the algorithm. But since it's made to increase engagement regardless of building true matches, I think it will be more entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:12 PM
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Again, there is a difference between true passport bros and sex tourist. Passport bros are generally men who want to build their life elsewhere for economical reasons. Sex tourists are immature guys wanting to access sex while keeping the comfort of their original country. There is nothing to build there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:08 PM
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I mostly agree except the part about effort. Since effort doesn't really equate to attraction. In general, women complain about the lack of effort of a man she's already attracted to. I think it's more about the lack of courage or the lack of tolerance to frustration when getting rejected (and also a lack of strategy)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:02 PM
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Yeah, I think "high standards" is a bit vague and everybody can put any meaning to it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:55 PM
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Is that a new "double standard gotach" thing here? I don't see too much problem with that. To each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:52 PM
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This is a good question. For me, emasculation is humiliation leading to an existential crisis. From a young age, a lot of men learn that they can either be a man or be nothing (or less than a human). A lot of women won't understand it because this is not something they value as well as a lot of men don't grasp the concept of being romantic. For instance a woman could publicly humiliate a man by attacking his competence in public. It can be normal for women generally but not for a gender who's va…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:01 PM
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Simple, there are biological and social elements creating this behaviour. Having sexual intercourse with the opposite sex has always been more costly for women and by extends families who have to take care of a mother and her child when the man doesn't take his responsibility and goes somewhere else. So there were more restrictions on women leading to a purity culture on women. Also women have generally a responsive desire, they can't feel desire unless there are the right conditions (time, plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:49 PM
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This is an interesting point. Indeed, I talk about women who look feminine but also act feminine. Men complain about their feminine partner because they choose them in the first place. It's normal that the traits who attract you are also the traits you complain about. For instance I heard a lot of women choosing ambitious men but complain about the fact they don't give them so much time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:43 AM
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I think I have heard about it. Men respect men with a lot of "masculine" traits and love women with a lot of "feminine" traits. Women tend to like people with a mix of both. But it's true that sometimes some women expect a man to have a lot of feminine traits (to make him the best friend) while expecting him to hold a lot of masculine traits at the same time. It's like having their bestie but with a man's body and attitude. That can happend but I don't think all women want that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:47 AM
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Of course you can. It's a question of offer and demand and there are women who want that. But "traditional" have many definition
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:10 AM
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Specifically on this sub. But not because they don't have their shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:53 AM
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The bias in the studies of health is still significant. Generally, married men/women generally have a great life before being married (marriage generally emplify what's good and what's bad) Also singleness coerce both single men who were never in relationship and divorced men (and we know how worse are divorced men) But yeah, I do agree that people have to choose what they want in a partner. There are men who are okay for a woman with a past and men who are not and that's okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:59 AM
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Even though I myself want children. It's a bit insane to think people who don't want children are unhealthy. There might be many causes behind that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:04 AM
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In my case my fiancée was giving me gifts in the form of cloths. I had to calm her down since I feel like I am the one to take care of her. She can still offer me things from timt to time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:51 AM
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I never thought that cold approach were the best way to build something with a woman. In general, that's not the best way to bond with them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:49 AM
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In my case I watched hours of diverse content designed for men AND women. I have seen RP content and misandrist contents and other stuffs. I filtered out what was wrong and kept what was really consistent and in sync with my reality. It help understand the struggles an man and a woman have to go through
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:22 PM
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In those conditions, I would find a strong partner and control them if the world is so dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:41 PM
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Yes we shouldn't just criticize a specific group as big as men and women. If all students fail in a class, that mean the conditions to learn are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:03 AM
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Those qualities are always the same. I don't need another human being validating my qualities but being valued for my ambitions, my kindness and my strength would be the world for me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:55 AM
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The femosphere? Also those are male coded because women are too vocal about that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:53 AM
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You're right, one might think in those conditions, women could be more valued but in reality, women are the ones bearing the majority of the child birth through pregnancy. They are in a position of vulnerability where they have to depend on the people around them to survive. Because of this disbalance, a man can "have a child" and still keeping his work force Nevertheless, while a woman can have a certain number of children at time, a man can have multiple children with multiple women at the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:51 PM
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You didn't consider the amount of unpaid work a woman do and her life confition if there is a divorce because she depend on a man her whole life. If you want to have a career and freedom to do what you want, being a tradwife can be a huge burden
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:32 PM
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I have heard that women are objectified and men are instrumentalized in this sense. Indeed a woman's career is not as important as women think when a man choose. Of course the character of the woman count. If she is good natured and has similar values, that's a big win
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:24 PM
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I think this is just what some men believe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:23 PM
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It trully depend but when you adress the topic of morality there are strict rules regarding western marriage by origin. First of all, having sex with someone else is cheating. Whanting something from someone from the other gender is cheating (including friendship)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:04 AM
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I think the real reason is resources. For countries in wars or with a significant poverty, it's hard to sit down and think about the rights of minorities. I mean, being a woman in conditions where high birth rates and phisical strength are a must, that doesn't don't put them in a position of power. In countries with greater resources (food, health, education, work opportunity in all 3 sectors), minorities have their rights to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:48 AM
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Tbh I know some men who like chasing. Of course it's not to build serious relationships but they like it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:04 PM
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I get to the same church as my partner but we never talked much since we were doing our own things. But one day, our activities overlaps a bit more and we had time to interract with each other. I didn't knew she was that great as a person. With time the interraction goes naturally, I discovered I had feelings for her and I finally propose to her. Now we're in our way to marry soon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:02 AM
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Hooks up are not tailored for women (let alone men). I don't know who thought it would be liberating for the majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:09 AM
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It's not "wrong" but doing "that" for the sake of dating is a bit overkill. It's like learning the whole corpus of mathematics to do accounting. It sure help a lot but the effort should be put somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:03 AM
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You built a solid text but you mention people (Batesman) whose methodology is significantly contested. In the context of arranged marriage, the man has to be chosen by the family (who mainly decide if something will happend) first so the selection. Also there were plenty of culture where the familly of the women is the one paying (imperial China, medieval and Renaissance Europe, India, etc.) and there are a lot of species where the males are the one choosing (Pipe fish, Seahorses, poison darz fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:15 PM
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One thing you forgot to mention is the fact that a lot of medias are centered about a man's pleasure. So well that a lot of women know more about how a man get to orgasm than themself. There are trully women "discovering their sexuality". Even men should study it so they could include things for their partners. But yeah, effort is also part of the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:43 PM
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Well providing is not only financial
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:33 PM
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Okay, that sounded smart at first but there are reasoning mistakes here an there. First of all from history, women where the one "chasing" since they absolutely needed a man to survive (they couldn't have personal acccount or work in some area). That's why they competed to be chosen working a lot on their physical appearance. That's why nowadays women have a lot of artificial enhencements. Secondly, not every area is the same. There are places where being a man with a few things get you a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 01:10 PM
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Even as a man, I know porn is more centered about a man's pleasure. For the majority of women, any of those things will lead them to orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:11 AM
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Well, given the fact that those advanced countries need to relly on migration to keep their population I think it's a good case of anemism. The fact that you think this dating system is the only one who provide choice is strange. I suggested a mode of living that works well while yours create systemic problem and make people vulnerable to dating apps. What is bad in "Know yourself so you can find someone compatible". Dating is not Disney you know
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:05 AM
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Good point, decentering women help a lot. But wanting to be globally attractive has a weaker ROI though. Back then, women needed to work a lot on their appearence to get a man since that was the only way for them to survive since they couldn't have their own financial autonomy. Even today, things like make up and artificial enhencement stay as a vestige of what things were back then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:59 AM
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So even though you have >1% success-rate at dating through friends, you choose dating apps, that confirm they are doing something to our brain to make us unavailable. Thanks for your feedback
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:51 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:15 AM
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Oh boy, now I noticed. I wanted to say "casual sex is statistically bad for women", thanks for correcting me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:59 PM
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If you want to please every person of a group, it will be really hard, especially if the group is big. In your case, you're trying to please every women by merging what you have heard from many different women. They are not a hive mind and you should be more specific while targeting the kind of woman you want
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:28 PM
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Now that you mention it🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:20 PM
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Okay, that one was good
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:20 PM
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Yes I fully agree with you. I don't know how you can be so good at debating. You appropriated my analogy and makes me understand you easely. Well played mate Tbh I have always avoided dating apps like the plague (and it looks like I was right), I think people should look for a third place
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:14 PM
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This kind of mentality generally lead people to think their experience is universal and will mainly tell that "all men/women" are like that without looking outside their own social context or recognizing their own pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:10 PM
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Yes relationship starting from casual sex aren't to be demonized. It's just that difference between sex when it's about casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:07 PM
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Great
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 09:06 PM
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Why people keep using dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:59 PM
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It's generally bad for women: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8853360/ But a nuance can be made since women who engage in this sort of activity might have a certain level of loneliness or depression
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:58 PM
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The other RP where more original but I will say it pass. Thanks for your contribution and I hope you will find happiness in the future 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:53 PM
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Yeah I meant men who are "deeper" or more experienced than you spiritually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:51 PM
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This is a limited way to see dating. Being fun to be with is just one part. There are other groups that value other things more. But I mainly agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:49 PM
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Interesting. Are you yourself asexual. What is easier with asexual people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:47 PM
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Yep I made it clear in the body of my post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:46 PM
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(sorry I was in an appointement) I want to make things clear. Your script is right but it makes me cringe a bit when I heard some RP bros sell it like it's the cure for all cancer right before selling their shit self-improvment courses. "My script address each of these" is the proof. You can't learn all those things by lifting weights and being a business man. Your script is generic, mine is adaptative. Yours is about preparation, mine is about intention. Yours is "change yourself enougth to gai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:45 PM
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Yep, your script will still help you find someone for you (this is the subject of my post). You present your script as the "above all" way for a man while soen broke dudes are still getting girls while the man who could have followed your script might fail because of the way he choose his partner and could still lack social/relational skills
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:09 PM
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I understand, it can be hard for a christian woman to find a "godly" man but christian generally find their 3rd places in christian events (not only your church). I did that myself and it helped me find other believers. Also I have heard that a lot of christian women generally want an godly man "above" them. Is that true? I pray for your success and send you my blessing sister🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:02 PM
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Is this a bait? I mean, come on. The people who invoke morality in dating shouldn't be trusted at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:58 PM
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I think you shouldn't pay too much attention to haters
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:46 PM
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This is a great script indeed but I find it unhealthy if it's only for the sake of dating. Also dating is not about getting any woman but the women you're conpatible with. Those elements you expose are what I call trully gems for a human being but they are "generic nice things" in the field of dating. A relationship require other skills like self/co- regulation, negotiation/communication skills or self introspection
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:45 PM
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I also agree. Yes I agree relationships are not solely based on work Disclaimer: arranged marriages are not forced marriage. Generally, the parents do the first selection based on the people compatible with their child. Then the child choose based on their preferences (attraction). So it's surpisingly well balanced
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:39 PM
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There are women who are attracted by men with a stable situation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:25 PM
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I am not terminally online so I would say...no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:23 PM
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Sorry, I wanted to say you are wrong because preferences and non-negociables aren't the same. I forgot the "," after "wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:21 PM
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Wow💯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:17 PM
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Yep, this spark is one of the reason people have a harder time building meaningful relationships since they are more about "feeling" than "working". I am not saying that feeling is bad (it's great) but there is a real disbalance nowadays. Also spark can be built with a lot of people if you work on your skill. But to be sure, love is mainly a feeling for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:15 PM
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Well, it's harder for someone who don't completly follow the script but he should adjust to what he can actually give
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:10 PM
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Yep that's why my point is not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:09 PM
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Oh okay, now I understand and I agree. But you know you can increase your chance by being more visible (extend your social network). It also work asking friends to introduce you to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:08 PM
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That's strange that the most advanced nation have the lowest birth rate, the highest divorse rate and the greatest singleness issue of the world. Why do you take it personnally when I say people should stop following their reptilian brain for mate selection. That's why some people won't understand why arranged marriage works so well and won't learn anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:00 PM
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Wrong preferences and non-negociables are completly different. People who can't make a distinction tend to be more dissatisfied with life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:54 PM
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Do you have proofs? Also "not my type" generally mean "they are not highly attractive to me" for a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:47 PM
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Spark/Lust is just a proof than this person will create great babies. You can be litterally attracted to someone who will make your life miserable. I am talking about finding someone compatible to build a relationship with, not just someone to fuck. But you're right, you can find the love of your life by doing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:45 PM
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If you actually have standards and expect your attraction to be reciprocated, you're in tough luck. She is actually attracted to you = your attraction being reciprocated? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:41 PM
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I agree, socializing is the basis for dating. Also to each their own. Being weird is not a problem if you find someone compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:40 PM
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You can do that too. Nobody is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:38 PM
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> The script you should follow is always self improvement (If you're still reading and would like me to elaborate, just ask). Okay, I am getting the character. It looks like you only see one way of things. Can you elaborate? But you're right, finding a match is only half of the work since building a relationships require more skill. > Nice job outlining what "the script" even is, btw. Could you define it? I'd love to watch you try to. If you read the body of the post, you will see that "the scri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:38 PM
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I'd like to ask you these questions: Where do you usually look when you want a partner? What type of man are you looking for? The "loose" girl just found their match
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:30 PM
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Another proof advocate. I am generally not wasting my time with people who doesn't bring anything to the table, but I will try. I am not completly a nice guy but a living proof of this working. Just find someone with compatible value. What's so hard about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:27 PM
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This is a bit passive and outsourced strategy tbh. "Perfect guy" doesn't sit well with me since it imply some kind of "soul mate" things when reality is not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:25 PM
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I agree, but relationship based on casual are statistically bad, so I wouldn't invest in this game if I were a woman tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:22 PM
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I agree, problem can be systemic. But to be honest, I have met more women with okay standards than crazy one (except when I am terminally online)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:20 PM
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Incredible, so there are still people who don't find anyone after all the content warning against dating apps and promoting third places? Where are you looking for when you want to find someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:18 PM
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I also disagree. Casual sex is more of a transaction than a relation. Also preferences are not "needs". Nowadays people are entilted to have everything for cheap. I thought everyone learned what "tradeoffs" mean in adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:15 PM
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My point still works. You will find someone. This days, people are entilted to have it all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:12 PM
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Simple: too much media (films, comics, porn) centered around a male sexuallity. Tbh a lot of women don't really know themself sexually so no wonder it's even harder for a man who doesn't experience it as a woman. But this is not an excuse for looking for how attraction and sexuallity works for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:10 PM
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It looks like you're terminally online, you should touch some grass. There are men and women who have low self esteem and there are men and women who are arrogant or entilted. It's true that men are more logical and women are more emotional but both need to work on how to communicate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:50 PM
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Option A
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:43 PM
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But are those filtered men really the "best" men? I agree that the worse men who don't listen are staying but I dont think the men who follow everything by heart are the best ones It generally hide an insecurity similar to women wearing sexy clothing to attract the male gaze. The smart men are those who don't see women as a hive mind but as individuals with their own personality (smart women, dumb women, kind women, mean women, etc.). Just understand who you are, the kind of woman you need and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:42 PM
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About the yoga pants parts. The motivation are not as sexual as you think. Women are more sensible to social validation. Some women notice being "sexy" bings a lot of attention from men. So what to they do? They continue. You notice that if it was always about attracting a man they would stop the moment they got into a relationship, but that's not what we always see. I am not saying all women who do that are like that but sometimes it's hiding a level of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:32 PM
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For what I understand women have a bigger difference of treatment to someone according to how close their are. Women are more guarded meeting stranger online or in real life and are more influenced by there social circle, prefering meeting a potential partner though their network than an algorithm.There is also the fear off men a lot of women have. Men don't have this mechanism so they feel more free to act that way. For me I decided to date how the majority of women date and got better results
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:21 PM
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Both choices looks like death in slow motion. I don't need a sex object when one could get off by themself and I don't want to be trapped with someone potentially boring for the rest of my life. For me a good friendship with a male friend is far better than sex with a stranger. That's where I feel whole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:15 PM
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Well that's what we call a structural limitation. Social media's algorithms will promote highly emotional contents so problematic and scandalous contents will be promoted. Since feminism is trendy and women are more present inside Tiktok men hating content will be promoted more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 05:03 PM
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Before knowing about the female gaze men and women where evenly attractive in my eyes But attractivity differe between men and women since men value hyperfeminine women and hypermasculine men the most while women tend to more androginuous traits Also for me a woman can be pretty but not attractive. Like I could find a building pretty without being attracted to it. So make up don't really influence my selection process (except when there is too much. It's not my cup of tea)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:49 PM
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This is strange. I understand why women don't have a positive view about men given what we have with feminism but it's strange we don't have the same for men given the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:00 PM
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Looks is not everything indeed, but it won't work if there is no basis. Also a single instance is not a statistic Depend of the man, the woman and the context. But cold approach is not a good strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:17 PM
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Please, women are not a monolith. There is a category of women who do act like that because of previous event (or it's a cultural thing). But there are also women who are openly trying to pick you up. One key is the persistence. You don't have to respond to their signal if you don't want to but it's cool if you try at least to notice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:13 PM
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Please change your social circle. It's clearly unhealthy and it smell from what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:09 PM
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Yeah, I think men and women have been socialized to think relationship in their own way. It's litterally another language. It also change depending of the person and their education
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:06 PM
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Oh I didn't know there where so much problem within this topic. In wich country are you living?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:29 PM
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This is an interesting and challenging post. Tbh, as a man, I never questionned this mindset: a man should provide. End of the discussion. Of course, I didn't select a woman who were "above my league" in term of lifestyle. I love my partner because she wasn't expecting much from me but I still want to privide for her. There where times my partner offered to pay for me but I was always refusing. But I think she found a loop hole by offering me presents so I also tell her to calm down a bit. But I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:54 PM
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This looks likes a healthy friendship. I can be hear for her and she can be hear for me but we don't nead to be always together. It will open space for my career/dreams and let a space for a relationship with sex included
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:50 AM
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I do think the pressure is comming for the mentality of "if I don't have s partner, I am not complet" + the need to get a direct "yes"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:43 AM
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Yeah I also thought it was a great strategy before meeting my partner. But the real strategy is counter intuitive. You attract many because of shallow stuffs (that say a lot about the people who follow you). But if you know who you are and what ypu need in life you will put more energy on the right type of woman and it's way easier to please one woman than a group of woman. It also works in marketing. You should aim for a specific niche first
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:05 AM
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Yeah I also thought it was a great strategy before meeting my partner. But the real strategy is counter intuitive. You attract many because of shallow stuffs (that say a lot about the people who follow you). But if you know who you are and what ypu need in life you will put more energy on the right type of woman and it's way easier to please one woman than a group of woman. It also works in marketing. You should aim for a specific niche first
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:05 AM
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You're right, thanks to internet, we are in a bad condition
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:02 PM
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Could we stop saying that men should date any woman but start looking for the ones compatible with them? The goal is not to gather a lot of clients but to find the right partner to build your business with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:41 PM
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Well no, since there are much more to a woman's biology that make her not want sex that much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:39 PM
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"Nice guy" is a buzzword whose meaning can vary depending of which you ask. What is YOUR definition of a nice guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:36 PM
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Good point, it's not a gender issue. But I still have to correct you. It's a systemic issue: the dynamic force people to adopt problematic behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:22 PM
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It's not completly true. You would be surprised to see the dating experience of a woman when she is "ugly". Moreover, women have other challenges like not being assaulted/raped/killed by a man that could be a potential date or not Also, you should stop using dating apps and find other third places to touch some grass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:19 PM
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Tbh I don't know why I would want anal sex at all. Even in a case of a kink of mine, it's something we can discuss like adults From what I understand from the men complaining about it is more about not being "loved" enougth. A lot of men fill love and intimacy through sex. One could even say that many equate sexual attractions to feeling loved With this perspective, if a woman was really sexually attracted to her previous partners and was ready to do wild stuff with them but not with the current…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:14 PM
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Pretty sure he doesn't understand how far the representation of a woman's pleasure is ignored in straight porn directed toward male pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:27 PM
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Yes I should at least do that even though they are popular
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:02 PM
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I don't completly agree. There are some culture that push marriage as a goal and a big metric of success in life like work or status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:02 PM
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Interesting take
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:00 PM
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Tbh marriage has always been a way to build contract between famillies and exchange ressources. So profit is the goal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:59 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:16 AM
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It's normal, couple fit well game theory, since the contribution from both parts is a big win but the contribution of one partner is a one sided win
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:15 AM
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Yes, it depends but stats catch a significative part of the truth. Agreed, just find someone compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:12 AM
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I see what you mean if it's about power dyynamics but I don't think any women would like a contract like that nowadays. Especially if the man is poor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:09 AM
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Ouch being in a pattern is painful. I hope you will soon find peace within a good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:32 AM
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Of course they can't
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:22 AM
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Good points. They should be discussed before being invested in a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:20 AM
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I mean, not everyone have the same kink sometime it take someone to be vulnerable sharing those things. Imagine being mocked by your spouse because of your preference? Or worse, it being weaponized against you? Being seen and accepted in this aspect is geeat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:56 AM
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Of course I know all those things, this is something I learned from my life partner. That's why it's better to find a generous man. But it didn't change the problem of entiltement. It is still repulsive and will break the relationship in the long run. But I can understand why people have this kind of problem in an individualistic society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:50 AM
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Hollywood also portray a sacrificial love for women and also made them miserable in relationship. The same can be said with the porn industry that led men to choose women mainly by their sexual attributs than their character and lead men waisting their time on the wrong people. The right person will give you a great relationship, be it a for men or women But true, men should decenter women and stop concidering being partenered as a success metric. A lot of men could do a lot given the right focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:43 AM
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Kinky sex IS a way to bond because it is something personal that isn't shared with other people. But it shouldn't be forced onto someone be it a woman or a man (I have also seen the other way around). The goal is to find a common ground as you said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:32 AM
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The situation in america is so f* up and people should try educating the new generations so men and women could understand each other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:28 AM
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Those issues are completly valid and men who don't take it into account shouldn't be dating. The diminution of sex, marriages and children isn't really a problem for me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:26 AM
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I agree, it's like sex. A woman will gladly have sex with her partner knowing his need but if he is entilted to it, it's repulsive. The same can be applied to providing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:22 AM
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To be honest I wouldn't want women to say something like "too much mariage end into divorce so men should act like women in a relationship to solve it". Men and women are different and this is what produce rich couples. I just think women should learn how to have a balenced filter and men how to better navigate a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:20 AM
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Good point and you have a really good intuition. Because of porn, a lot of men have a biased artificial experience of what sex really is. They react to attractive bodies and just want to f* them. It's mainly self-centered sex. When a man discover intimacy and shared pleasure with a woman who interract with them, they discover pure bliss. Also sex is not just during penetrative intercourse. It start way before the bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:59 AM
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Both parent married, and yes marriage was always a part of the plan
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:51 AM
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Completly correct! No one should be victim of moralization in this topic. Men and women try to evolve in a complex system that need some improvements
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:46 AM
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Agreed, people who marry for children shouldn't put romance and the other one as THE priority but must prepare for the children. It doesn't mean romance doesn't exist but children bring a new level of joy (if we put aside how tiring it is to raise them) I just don't agree with the fact men are the ones who want children. There are a lot of single mother for a reason (some tried to baby trap the man)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:41 AM
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True, men (or people) who are chasing attractive people without discernement are doomed to be unhappy and bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:05 PM
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Now that you're mentioning it I see my observations clearly pass as assumptions For instance I have a couple I know who were arguing. The woman was interested to the man because he was carrier oriented but now it's a problem if he follow his drive for success. I understand that he shouldn't be neglectful but it looks like the expectations has changed I remember seeing in a news report years ago women being asked why "bad boys" are interesting. But when asked how it will work in a long term relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:55 AM
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Well marrying is not the problem. There are always men and women who want things to be always high and will leave a relationship because of that. And I am talking about relationship that doesn't require marrying the person in front of you A relationship is like a living being who evolve with time. One can say a kid love its syrup with lots of sugar while an adult will prefer syrup further diluted with water A relationship is more than just love. Like schools are more than just places to study
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:42 AM
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True. Dating apps are generally the main problem (a structural problem, not a people problem). I think people are juste getting married later in life. A man marying at 30 could have been in a relationship for x years before. I think the actual difficulty is to be in a relationship let alone marrying. But I agree with the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:35 AM
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True story, I like the analogy. Tbh my example come from the confusion a man would get by searching through internet and getting different advices from different women. There is rarelly a "One size fits all". Maybe some general rules like "being a decent human being"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:31 AM
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Thanks for your response. I agree with you. Dating is hard for everyone and frustration is happening in both directions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:28 AM
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That was greatly said. I will play the devil's advocate and ask what about dating apps where we see the majority of women gravitating around a small pool of men (that's where all those ideas of hypergamy, chads and "women are evil" seems to come from)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:26 AM
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Interesting take. You're right, the reality is men AND women experience loneliness. But it's manosphere (not feminism) who made up this concept. Remember it's for victimization and telling women it's their fault
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:23 AM
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Ohh, okay I understand your point. I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:20 AM
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Yep, you discovered the trick
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:36 AM
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Yeah, I can understand you can't understand me. Tbh, I am a teacher and I can sometimes fall into the trap of thinking some concepts are so obvious when the class itself is composed of student who see what I am teaching for the first time. I am not assuming men are morons but there are way to many red/black pillers I fight daily for dating to be simple. I can understand it's simple from your perspective and I am pretty sure it's for some men but one can argue you this is not the case for everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:36 AM
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I completly agree with you. I also think people aren't really evil. Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. I have shared mine and you made things clearer. Really, the world need more people like you I have to admit that it also apply to me. I didn't really know what I needed before entering a relationship. And I think I have to work on it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:13 AM
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Yes, the same way you're assuming things about women. I am not assuming things about women. I am sharing a male perspective on why it feel. I might understand you don't feel the same way but please don't invalidate that I'm just treating you the same way you're treating others. Interesting, I can see how It can be educational indeed. Maybe I am assuming things without noticing it. Can you tell me what I am assuming about women? This is a good point to clarify for future discussions. I'm still wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:02 AM
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Well said, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:52 AM
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Thanks for your feedback I was not saying women are unreasonable but "confusing". The goal is to share a male perspective on what makes things unclear. If women really so thoroughly enjoyed not knowing anything about the men they are involved with then pre-selection wouldn't be a thing and cold-approaches would work a lot more. Here mysterious doesn't mean not knowing anything about the person but not knowing everything. For instance a man that keep secret his inner world because of a PTSD might…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:51 AM
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Yes. Of course, there will be exceptions. Thank you! Women aren't a monolith, no matter how hard y'all keep trying to treat woman as such. No problem, I think the same. Do you have an example? Yeah indeed, I take my examples from inexperienced young woman who are looking for butterflies and fireworks. They generally ignore some redflags and are the first victim of love bombing. Those are just general cases I hear talking with some of my girl friends Or are you just observation people you don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:40 AM
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I love your comment. It's full of wisdom, I think I needed that. You have my utmost respect About my work-related metaphore, I wanted to show that the "be a good coworker" don't really matter to get a job (=a relationship) since only technical skills are required during the interview (=the dating phase). So advices like "be kind" are really important after a man get into a relationship. But other elements took precedence I have a question for you: Do you think altering expectations are always in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:25 AM
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Interesting take. Why being lonely will make them less "weak". It would make them more needy and therefore "weak" in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:03 AM
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Hi mate, I think the scenario is a bit too exagerated if you see what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:02 AM
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Thanks for your response. Indeed, women are more selective and that's a good thing So I have this question for you: since they are looking for the exact right person for them why do we see in dating apps a small proportion of men getting the most attention from women. Does that mean one man can be the exact right person for a lot of women when it's not the case for the vast majority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:00 AM
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Thanks for your response! Indeed, you noticed it's an aggregation of what different women are looking for in dating. A mistakes men generally do when looking for advices online So I have this question for you: Can you say the elements women want during the dating stage are the same during the relationship stage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:54 AM
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Interesting! Thanks for your response! The same things that start a relationship are the same things that keep a relationship going. Could you tell me that every woman are acting like that or at least the majority? For instance, if we take a young woman (20) and a mature woman (40), will they agree on this? For me it looks like some are taking what attract them then think about how to make a relationship from that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:50 AM
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That's a powerfull comment thanks! I agree, not every women are the same and you found out that it's related to young inexperienced women who chase butterflies and firework instead of a grounded relationship. Also the advices are great👍 My question to you: Do you agree that because of this confusion, dating is made complex for men and won't help anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:44 AM
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I agree, one can't really connect with a stranger But do you agree it makes dating confusing for men since a woman implicitely want different things from dating to a relationship ? Sometimes it looks like demanding two different men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:36 AM
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Thanks for your response! "Mysterious" isn't some universally desired trait either Yeah it's true. It's not "all women" but someone can argue you that there is a lot of woman wanting that. So a man can't ignore this principle If he doesn't have time to date, he certainly won't have time for a relationship. Well, I don't agree here. A lot of people know that the amount of time a woman require during date is different when the relationship is established. She might go from being okay to meet every…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:32 AM
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Yeah, those principes should work, but someone can argue you it's not the kind of experience the average man is getting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:17 AM
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Thanks, that's what I was saying to my partner. After the wedding, the intensity of the relationship will always diminish through time and with events like child-birth, professional opportunities, relocations, death of a relative, etc. We won't have as much time or intensity for our intimate times but we will still have this deep bond like friendship and partnership that will maintain us happy There won't be firework anymore but we will share a cozy and soft campfire. No matter what media and ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:44 PM
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So for you a man is friend with a woman only to fuck her? I think you're stuck in an universal bias thinking what is common in your environment is universal (like I always thought people ride in the same side of the road world-wide) Also you think every girl has a past with a lot of "fun"? I don't think that's always the case For me your mentioning the story of a promiscuous woman who attract "nice guys" because of her sexual aura and use them for her own sake
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:25 PM
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Trust me it goes both ways. Maybe women do it more but it's certainly from both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:51 AM
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Ooh, okay make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:31 PM
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Tbh this dynamic is gender neutral. It's more about if your partner is insecure or not. It depend if they have been hurt in the past or if you have a behaviour that doesn't make your partner feel safe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:27 PM
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That's true. It's the narrative of self pitying men on this sub and on internet. But I wonder if there is a difference in need between men and women since I notice women building biggest networks of friends What is certains, men's friendship and women's friendship are different
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:24 PM
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Oh I have already seen this thing! I guess it's your fav citation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:15 PM
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Okay, we will go step by step. Can you define what a high value man is and what make him attractive for a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:14 PM
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I was surprised by your response until I saw you were RP (that explain everything). So no need to explain
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:54 PM
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Hi, yeah that's pretty normal. You might be experiencing an universal bias. You grew in a specific settings and think it's common. It happend to anyone It's just that COVID and internet explode in term of dating/relationship content (in quatity and diversity). The dynamic of women being led is not new and didn't died. It's just, because of dating apps, people can reach a broader field of potential people to date Also this economy can makes some women want to be led Of course, leading doesn't mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:56 PM
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There are progressive country where sex work is legal. It could be interesting to see the impact to the local population
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:40 PM
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I didn't understand anything. Could you give some concret examples of this concept and how it benefit society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:14 PM
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Well the pool is smaller but the men who are left are of better quality. I am not talking about redpill stuffs but serious quality like maturity and direction. This kind of guys are familly oriented and single moms are a great balance between love and familly. For some having a familly is a huge status boost (for work or with relatives)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:40 AM
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I agree the RP is attacking single mom as a revenge fantasy since they classify them as the "Stacy who messed up with a chad and want a man to take responsibility of her mistake (her child)". Of course this is dumb and far from the reality I have to admit a lot of men wouldn't want a single mother as a partner, but those who do would generally be of good qualities since they are mature and family oriented. A single mom with kids is a good balance between love and family
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:34 AM
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Thank you! Yes we praise each other with my partner quite often. The goal is to never take anyone for granted I wish you all the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:22 AM
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Interesting, it's true that people will prefer a simple answer even if it's wrong than a complex one even if it's correct
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:20 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:17 AM
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I think it's a matter of values. I agree, thinking playing video games as immature is bad. But people are different. I tend to distance myself from friend who are only about video games but if they make something productive with it or do it moderately, they are gold
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:02 AM
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Tbh what you describe is one kind of relationship among a bunch of them. This is not the absolute representation of things especially in a time women get their own money
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:58 PM
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This is my story but It can be summed up as: I was myself throughout the entire process. I fell in love with an incredible girl who was pretty, has a good heart and has a lot of good qualities (higher education, talent, social skills, etc.). We started showing subtle interest with each other at the beginning but she pulled back at some point. I don't really know what happened but I think she found someone else she wanted to pursue. I accepted the fact, stepped back and took time to grieve. Durin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:41 PM
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The voice of wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:41 PM
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I agree with the fact that's it's insulting if your where chosen because your partner feel like you're just a good fit. Those kind of situation generally ends up to relations without real commitment, and that's terrible. But I don't think people should forcibly come with a long list of things like they are buying an object (would also look dehumanizing in my pov) in a store. I look for specific elements when buying a computer with the aim of exploitation. But for relationship I choose people I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:40 PM
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Interesting thought indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:34 PM
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I am mentionning a thing that I think is strange. It's not about saying there is an oppressor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:05 PM
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That's a strange belief for me tbh. For me being whole mean you don't need external things to be fulfilled. It's attractive to women since you don't come up with neediness But I understand your point in the perspective of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:03 PM
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That's well explained
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:01 PM
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Well said mate!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:00 PM
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I can't respond since I don't identify myself as a victim --'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:59 PM
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I just shared my perspective and my impression and I have to admit women where more receptive to this kind of approach and I had better conversations. But I can't build anything with a Social justice warrior like yourself. Someone recommanded me to advocate for men for once and I completly understand why some of them felt utterly rejected and unheard in this sub. Please if you have a girlfriend or wife, don't act like that with her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:38 PM
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Yeah you're right I reread your comment and agree with what you says. I think it come from a feeling that men aren't appreciated for what they are doing no matter what. But some comment showed me women also experienced the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:32 PM
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Couples are happier when they get to be who they are This is also true and it doesn't invalidate what I wrote. not complain that “society doesn’t kiss your dick for having one” Never said something like that And one with true masculinity is going to listen to a complainer. It doesn't look like you're listening. What should I conclude? That’s why the “advocates” online always turn out ti be losers grifting off other losers. That's not my case, I have a purpose in life and am going to get married …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:28 PM
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Thank you. I also recognize women aren't praised enougth thanks to some comments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:29 PM
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Well no. Your response is the proof I should advocate for it more. Couples are healthier when both express gratitude. I hope you won't tell your wife to grow the fuck up when she express that need
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:27 PM
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Everyone has to use effort to leave their parent’s home to go make a life for yourself. Not that kind emancipation. I am talking about unlearning toxic mental model to avoid bringing it up to my partner or our future children. Learning to love yourself and love mankind in general. Stopping attaching too much importance on what people think This is a thing some people (men and women) are still struggling with unfortunately But yes, feminism is not completly at fault. Just media feminism with some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:25 PM
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Interesting, so the woman's perspective is the same. We don't get praise and gratitude for things related to older gender roles. That's bad. I do that with my partner and it help the couple
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:18 PM
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That makes sense, it happened through history in a lot of topics. That might be weird but maybe I am actually doing this kind of push back against the men who are complaining on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:14 PM
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I still think people should show appreciation to each other, that's what I do with my partner. It help maintaining a good relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:09 PM
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I think it's going to a "I have it worse" road😅 Yeah, there are a lot of things men and women aren't praised for
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:39 PM
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Yeah, sure. Old RP was more about self improvement while modern RP is more about resentment toward women (generally caused by COVID and dating apps)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:18 PM
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That's true, people shouldn't base their values of what they do. Unfortunately that's not the case for all men. I have to made a lot of effort to go against my parents conditioning and find my self worth. My partner just gave me the chance to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:56 PM
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True story. There are still things worth fighting for but I wanted to mention this inbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:39 PM
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Of course "stealing" is an over statement but you can understand the meaning. If you've been valued by being good at geography by your parents but now your siblings is praised instead of you for the same thing while still being praised for its own thing (why you don't) you can feel that something is a bit weird right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:33 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:27 PM
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That's insightful, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:08 PM
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I am in a relationship and We plan to get married in the next few years I am BP because I am against modern RP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:04 PM
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Well I never said men shouldn't do it (we should). I am just pointing out this inbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:01 PM
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You're right. It's not the job of feminism to handle it but it can be done in an individual scope. Nobody have to fix anything, just be aware of things
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:59 PM
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Completly agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:55 PM
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Yep not caring is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:55 PM
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Wrong, I am saying men and women are breaking old gender roles (which is good), but men tend to be less valued for that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:54 PM
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I agree, there are aspects where standards are bad or unjustified but I also think that complaining instead of adapting is a signe of "weakness". I think a man is much more than a woman chaser and can be whole by himself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:16 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:37 AM
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In real life too. Just go out and you will see. But it's true that each person has their own beauty standard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:12 AM
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Yeah perhaps you need to heal. You will feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:11 AM
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Thank you and thanks for your work helping men leveling up their game!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:10 AM
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Tbh I am not completly sure. Unfortunately, passed a certain age finding a partner is way more difficult for women while men on their age aren't looking for a serious relationship or target younger women (with an insignificant success rate) It's also hard if the woman is percieved ugly. She might find someone but she has less options Overall, it's complicated for women to find a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:09 AM
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Thank you! I have to admit it's hard to keep a relationship with a woman since it require a different set of skills than being friend with men, but this experiment was trully benefical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:59 AM
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Find your true purpose outside of finding a woman. Is a man incomplet without a woman? Is a woman detrimental for a man to be whole? To be himself? What men really need is to find their own way know that old standards were crushed by feminism (I am not saying what was done is good or bad but people should adapt to win the game)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:56 AM
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Yep, there are a lot of weak women. They are also bad
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:51 AM
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Well said mate. Tbh, some "nice to have" are also misleading advice comming from women who don't get the context. It's like people asking companies how to get a job and companies respond "be a friendly coworker", this is true but not that important to get a job in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:50 AM
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An interesting take. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:45 AM
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That was well explained! Thanks for the Ted talk I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:44 AM
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Ahh d'accord! Vous êtes fort pour m'avoir repéré haha. Vous avez un bon niveau. Je suis français d'Europe pour dire vrai
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:43 AM
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Ahh, I better understand. To be honest, I don't know. I don't felt I am taking a female perspective. What makes you think that (I might be doing unconscious stuff I don't even comprehend) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:40 AM
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That's a great explanation, thanks. Some comments also mentionned the toxicity of social media accelerated by COVID and the abscence of male role models
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:37 AM
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Interesting take. I am more on the side of comments saying modern internet were a bad influence accelerated by COVID I am curious to know how women how mimicking the elite, I might have missed this point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 AM
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Thanks for your explanation. It makes a lot more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:31 AM
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Yeah I am talking about young men mainly. I also target women since a strange/bad behaviour is bad/strange regardless of gender or ethnicity Feminism have made progress but has also done some harm in general. But thanks for not saying something along the line of "It's because of women"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:28 AM
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Thanks for your informations. But using the informations off a single war doesn't invalidate the fact that upper classes have generally more means to avoid being enrolled, or being muted while lower classes were systematically enrolled. That plus the fact the lower class were generally less likely to have a good normal life after war. I mean there have always been those who decide and those who fight directly. I let you guess which is which
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:24 AM
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What you're mentionning isn't something new but a patern that repeat through history. It is generally held by the opressed or the conspirationists And there aren't a "true" purpose for all but purpose for each singularity. It's generally linked to your skills and world view
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:12 AM
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I agree with the first point Yes single women have the opportunity to thrive now that they don't depend on their partner to survive. And that's a great thing. They have other needs that can be met with a community of people/women. Unfortunately, men aren't taught that. I have to learn it on the fly with my fiancee so her needs could be met But still, people need each other. I think men will find a balance in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:10 AM
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Yep, the fundamental problem with men is this neediness to find a woman. Like a man can't be complet with a woman? A man can't be a man without a woman? What about having a purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:44 AM
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Interesting but it's not the only way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:42 AM
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You touch a great point: men aren't taught to express their emotions since they were trained to get rid of them (even though it's impossible). But a man who master his emotions (knowing how to handle and express them) trully get better in life Your studies juste explain the fact, not the cause. I am not sure women are forcibly "better" since they generally get a better social structure/support than men in general (I am better than a woman in a work place if the work place favor more men?) There …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:41 AM
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If that's the case, the response is a bit immature tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:16 AM
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Thank you. This is interesting indeed but the men in the past weren't that much bothered by those social risk-taking tbh. I just think this new generation make a big deal about it But it's true that propaganda about sexual harassment and concent made things confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:15 AM
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Thank you for saying that. Indeed, we don't leave in a gynocentric society but feminism is blind for a group of aspect touching men and won't access true equality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:12 AM
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I am just saying thing could get worse for people in America ("you" is not that expressive in english). And yep, a better future is still possible with better education
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:09 AM
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I agree. I am not saying men are not emotional. Still they are better at decision making. Men and women just express/process their emotions differently
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:06 AM
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Mais alors comment un francophone comme toi a pu atterrir sur un subreddit des anglos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:59 AM
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I think a system built on fear/respect on violence would only work as long as the strong have a good will. Also, if people respect me only because of fear it's a fragile power
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:58 AM
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Yes feminism define new dynamic giving more freedom and independence to women. The old dynamic and role men were given fell appart, creating a generation of men who don't know where to put themself. Feminism as broken the old rules and given a place to women but left men behind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:55 AM
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Now that you mention it, I am not sure to understand correctly what kind of risk-taking you're talking about. Can you give some concret examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:50 AM
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I agree. But I also agree with some comments exposing an eternal conflict between old and new generations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:48 AM
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I agree, male attributes are less appreciated and more devalued nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:46 AM
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Completly agree, there have always been this eternal conflict between old and new generations. Maybe the weak men of today will become the strong men of tomorrow and will judge the future and the pas with their own standards
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:45 AM
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Interesting, you keep insisting on it. So there really are toxic places. Perhaps you're coming from one of the worst western country (America)? Because I think it will get worse for you unfortunately Of course I know things and I want to help people. And yes, men need to access their full potential. A lot of us are hurt but we need to be better. Of course, not alone And yes this western society has his challenges but I think people have what it takes to take a better route. I just think we will …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:41 AM
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I completly agree. Well said mate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:32 AM
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I do agree but we don't have to demonize them either. A lot of men grew in the past with a clear scenario and defined roles. With the change of dynamic, it's normal a lot of them looked for role models. There wouldn't be that much hype about this manospheric world if they were enougth good male models
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:31 AM
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This is a good point. I don't agree with the gynocentric argument but the rest is really good
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:28 AM
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Thanks for your comment! This is a great explanation! Indeed, I have heard about this eternal generational war and I think I did fall into the trap. Maybe the weak men of today will become the strong men of tomorrow and will also judge the old and the new generation after them with their own standard From the response I recieved, my impression can be explained from what happened with COVID and the rise of an superconnected generation (social medias, dating apps, etc.) who experienced some troubl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:26 AM
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Thanks for the source. Okay, it was just a rethoric tool
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:18 AM
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Can you elaborate (maybe with example) ? I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:15 AM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:14 AM
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Ohh okay, I understand. Do you also speak french?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:13 AM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:12 AM
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It's true men had in the past a scenario with expected outcomes. Nowadays, it doesn't works and a lot of men are still investing on the wrong set of skills. Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:11 AM
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You're pointing out something real. If I have to define it, I think it's more about the amount of complain and accusations toward women and society. Of course there are real problem but I have seen a lot of men using it as an excuse to not evolve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:08 AM
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This is really interesting. I agree, being alive is a bit easier nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:04 AM
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Yeah, since COVID dating apps become popular and there are plenty of reasons they aren't working. Since a broken system become the main way of meeting people I can understand the frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:03 AM
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Interesting, can you elaborate please?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:01 AM
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I agree, I see a lot of men not having a purpose. But if they did they wouldn't even have that much time to think about women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:01 AM
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The first one is interesting. Indeed I also think men have lost their landmark with feminism The rest doesn't make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:59 AM
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I understand what you mean, but I think men have more dignity than going to war. I mean only poor/middle class men went on war while the rich ones were at peace But I agree there is less appreciation and more condamnation of male's attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:53 AM
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Interesting explanation. It's well structured. But I still find it strange that there are less risk taking when there are still a lot of men doing that. Perhaps it's my perception of what strength is that make it hard to get
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:51 AM
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Yeah I think it contribut
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:46 AM
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This is good explanation, I love it. But to be honest women are also disagreable from a male perspective it's just our differences This is interesting, I know strong men not being disturbed by a rejection. I guess it depend of the person
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:46 AM
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Interesting take, but there is a bit of manicheism there. Are you a man, OP? Tell me, why are you worried more about female interests than your own? Because I am fulfilled? I mean, I have found a purpose in my life, I have found a great partner and I am still growing (I still lack some elements in my life). I just have the luxury to think outside of my own self from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:40 AM
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I also think men who don't want to participate in dating are good. I just don't get the ones whining about the situation. Especially when the consumption of porn is greater than in the past (and it mostly profit men since it's targeted to them) But I think the biggest trap for a man is thinking he absolutely need a woman to be fulfilled. Trust me, when you found your purpose, having a partner is almost a waste of time and a sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:36 AM
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Interesting take. I agree, I just think the proportion of weak men is greater
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:31 AM
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Thanks for your source. You're completly right, men and women express/process their emotions differently but I was talking about stability. Men have the advantage of having a daily hormonal cycle while women need to deal with it through the month Women also need a man who can handle their emotions with calm and warmth while their processing it. Complaining/crying shouldn't be a man thing especially in front of women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:29 AM
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Strange, there is a lot of attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:25 AM
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Thank you. I also agree. I have heard the best kind of parenting is through a network of different mother and father figures. It really help
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:23 AM
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Sorry if you and your friend have been hurt but you should leave your environment, because that's clearly not what the reality is (at least in most case including me). Also you should go touch some grass I agree, there is a real lack of male figures, even in families with a father (if he is absent). It lead to turbo. Independent women and weak men indeed. We need bigger men circle that aren't as toxic as feminism or the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:21 AM
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I agree that COVID and social media were really problematic. But I don't really see that many women with stupid standards in real life. I think men should just socialize again. I know there aren't a lot of men in single events
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:14 AM
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You should touch some grass, really
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:10 AM
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You're right, but I was meaning something else by "weak". Like complaining/crying about the situation instead of doing stuffs. Especially, "Why do a man need sex/company to feel whole?". There wouldn't be that much problem if men where less needy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:09 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:06 AM
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That's well explained thank you! I completly agree. It's not the fault of women but a lack of male role model
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:06 AM
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Thanks man, I needed to read that. You're a great guy. The world need more people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:03 AM
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Ngl I love how you phrase things. But I have to disagree. A lot of men "punch down" thinking they are fighting back at an oppressor. Unfortunately a lot of men think women have more priviledge than them In a broader perspective, both gender generally notice the advantage of the other withouth really taking into account their difficulties
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:01 AM
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Interesting take. I understand it only come across as anger for the other gender. But it's trully a external reaction related to a deeper problem. A lot of men are really helpless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:58 PM
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You should touch some grass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:53 PM
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This is a great observation! Indeed I also feel a lack of purpose for most young people and especially men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:53 PM
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Interesting take, but I can't relly on "trust me bro" as a source
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:51 PM
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Depend of who. The men who where educated by single moms are really the antithesis of a leader
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:50 PM
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Simple and efficient. You're right, porn has done a lot of harm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:49 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:48 PM
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Really extrem and miss a bit the mark. But I agree, we should find a way to balance what young boys recieve to avoid them to be brainwashed by toxic feminism and manospheric propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:44 PM
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I am sorry if you have been hurt. I hope you will be doing well in the future, mate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:39 PM
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Well not all men/women are that insecure. But that's true. No need to be strong, just not "weak"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:39 PM
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I agree with the entiltement about relationship. But the rest of your comment is a bit of an oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:37 PM
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Interesting, I didn't thought about it. Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:33 PM
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Good point. But the thing I don't agree with is the risk taking part since there are still ablot of men who take risk in carrier-wise, and even men still assaulting women or holding challenging sentences when feminism dictated some rules
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:30 PM
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Stopping the weird things I mentioned and start being happy with themself might be a good start
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:26 PM
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Oh, that's well exolained. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:01 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:59 PM
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Not only that but young women are actually more lonely than men. They just don't really complain about it. I would say women are more open about it. It's the same with depression or medical consulation. Otherwise, thanks for saying the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:47 AM
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Yes indeed. Pretty sure I made some mistakes in my post X)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:41 AM
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Hi mate, you made good observations: it's really blurry for us. But if you come with a growth mindset and want to learn more than wanting to win, if you appreciate the process more than the goal, you will have a blast True we don't understand women and they don't understand us. They have a specific and subtle language you have to understand. The best rule is to look at what they do, not what they say You want to know if she is interested? Look at how much time they wan't to spend with you. I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:56 AM
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That's a great point: attraction is not a moral meritocraty. One need to invest into the things that work (work on yourself and your choice of target)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:41 AM
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I also think it's not helpful for men to complain about not being selected by women. It's like complaining of the job market because it's hard or your social up bringing. There is a way, generally not what people want, but there is a way. Also it's not attractive for anyone if you self pity-yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:37 AM
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I think it's the main difference between gender. I have heard of a research that show how a majority of men where ok if they met a woman who has 80% of what they are looking for. But women are a majority to reject the offer if a man with 80% of what they are looking for come up Women are also as pickier in friendship with female peers. I have seen the kind of dynamic and drama women can go through in social interactions. It's not forcibly bad. Just different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:33 AM
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To be honest I haven't thought about that but I know we generally will end up alone at the end (when your friends and your partner will die)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:07 AM
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Thank you, it makes more sense to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:22 PM
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It looks like OP is full on the dynamic within the black community
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:11 AM
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For once I agree. Marriage doesn't make people happy. It emplify what people are already living
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:05 AM
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Never been close to a woman like that. I might be wrong, but a woman like that might have more problematic things in her life than her body count imo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:34 PM
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Tbh, I don't think they are flexing (except some rare instance but I think it's more rage bait)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:27 PM
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Arrogant? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:03 PM
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I understand why Happiness is so unreachable for some. Just incompatibility in term of mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:08 PM
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Just because it works? You know, not every man fail at entering a healthy relationship. You just need to do your homeworks and grow as a person But true when I discovered RP, I thought it was a pure work of fiction but I realized that this is the reality of some men out there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:04 PM
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Thanks for your honesty. This is normal because you see some kind of injustice toward access to sex. People do the same with money. I think you should replace resentment by admiration. It won't change the past at all but it will make you a lot happier and will make you even curious about what make people succeed. It's not us against others but us WITH others Swithching your POV will help a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:11 AM
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I don't think the quantity of single mothers or men looking for casual sex/relationship, men ghosting after sex or men cheating (even in gay relationship) display the inherent "loyality" of men. Some even say that marriage was a contract created to protect women for being left behind by their partner after pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:03 AM
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Yeah, when you have been used to priviledge, equality looks like oppression. That's why feminism get so much backslash: men feel oppressed by that. On the other end it's true that feminism ignore a lot about men's problems
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:38 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:28 PM
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No, single mom and misoginists aren't correlated. Yes misogynist are a turn off for women but there is infinitely a lot of criteria that disqualify men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:25 PM
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Yep love and lust are generally orthogonal for men when it's more coupled for women. That's why I wouldn't recommand hookups for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:18 PM
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I agree except for the confidence. This is not that important to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:04 AM
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Tbh, now I trully understand my relationship is a multiplier. If I am not happy before engaging, it won't make me happier but worse. I need to be happy and good with myself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:01 AM
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I mostly agree except for the proof you gives. It's like saying "men are all gentlemen" then proceeding to select a famous man who appear to be a gentleman Also things are not binary. You're comparing two extrems (tradwife, successful business woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:55 AM
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That's immature and will deteriorate this already broken dating space
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:43 AM
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Well it's true women are shallow but so do men. Expecting women to do that against their will will just lead to a bunch of men saying "My gf/wife don't like me" and more breakups/divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:40 AM
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Never used dating apps. Just heard horror stories about them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:35 AM
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Yeah I also though that in the past. It helped me see that everyone experience things differently and there are specific conditions that make someone BP or RP. In my case it was nearly impossible to become RP since it's so different from my reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:33 AM
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Yeah, I experienced the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:51 PM
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I assure you that looks doesn't do everything for the attraction of a woman, young man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:15 PM
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In my day to day life, pills aren't a thing. Men and women have their differences but we can still get along
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah, women can be a irrational when they catch feelings. That's why they should be wiser and better at vetting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:48 PM
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Church guy there. Being virgin was never an obstacle to find a partner but rather a green flag as you say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:33 PM
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Interesting, perhaps virginity now signify "women don't want me" in this instance and is a signal to other woman to not engage. Some kind of artificial hive mind
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:09 PM
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Yes, true story
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:15 AM
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I have to balance a bit your opinion Yeah, I have seen how irrational the love of a woman is. Be it in friendships, in family or in romance. This kind of love is truly amoral and sometime detached from the reality. And yes when a woman is detached or hating someone, she is also doesn't make sense But I wouldn't go to the point of thinking women are naive. They display so much intelligence when it come to lead their crush to them. Like sometime a man think he get a woman by himself but that was h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:13 AM
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It's true that women are as shallow as men in term of relationship (indeed there is no "Women are wonderful" in reality). It's true, women are also pickier but it's also true that some men lacks what it is to be relationship material and I am not joking
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:01 AM
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And which percentage is that among all men? It's like hoping to be a professional soccer knowing how good you have to be and how much strings you have to push. If it's not viable to the majority it shouldn't be used
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:55 AM
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I agree with some point but there are some misleading elements Sure, people works with interest in mind. But there are some interests that lead to a win-win. A relationship coach as more interest that their client succeed since it show their business is working and will attract more people. Some self-help gurus on the other hand are just exploiting your emotions and are comforting you in your view. The advice given in PPD are generally given from personnal experiences. Depending of the experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:49 AM
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I agree, hedonistic life is bad and destroy civilization. I think it's sad if a man feel he is not a man because he can't find a romantic relationship. I clearly think we should condemn those who pressure people to enter a relationship against their will. Also there are still a lot of women who seek a relationship more than women who are just looking for short term sex (they generally end up badly)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:33 AM
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Simple: they won't like hearing the truth. It's about offer and demand. There is a small proportion of women who really enjoy casual sex as men do, there are women who know how men are sex driven to market their beauty/sexuality and can be as much selective as they want The truth is women don't want sex the same way men want sex. They rarely just want sex but include it in a package named partnership and deep connexion. A lot of incel won't like that women need to be treated as human being befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:21 AM
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I think you can still find a woman who would be okay. I have heard there are women who want a SAHD. You should just market yourself and be more vocal about it like you do in this post Also you should pay attention to not end up with a partner who is a maternal gatekeeper
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:10 AM
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That's a problem, but I don't think it's the role of women to fix Yes govermnent can bring an awarness campain hrlping men to not attach their values through sex and destroy the performative social pressure they experience When I understood I shouldn't use my time/money/resource to satisfy/impress people who won't really have significant impact in my life, I started living a better life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:01 AM
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That's an insane step backwards O_o Also women would be pickier and more will be happy single. The male loneliness start with friendship, not if women should take contraceptive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:55 AM
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Yeah your understanding in woman is quite 2D (need some 3D). I will try to explain it in a way you could understand. Imagine if a woman could satisfy you only with her hands. She would have to be quite good to do so right? I present you with an even more unjust battle. Imagine if a man have to be sexually attractive to a woman only with his looks. He will have to be really attractive to do so I don't really like this kind of example but I know RP see a lot of things (especially women) mainly thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:26 PM
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I don't really know, I was raised to be the provider and I earn more than my partner. I think I would feel like a failure at first but will compensate in some way or another. We are a team
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:11 PM
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RP taught me there are a lot of shallow men hurt by the game who built an ideology that help them become more hurt and shallow by justification. I call them turbo awakened shallow apologists (TASA)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:03 PM
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You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:31 PM
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Yes, it's a great list if the woman is already attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:16 PM
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Thanks for your response. It's rare to see a RP who is not angry
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:10 PM
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I am sorry you have to experience that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:43 PM
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Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:40 PM
1

Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:37 PM
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Thanks for your response. Wich kind of genetic disadvantages do you have? Is that some kinds of illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:36 PM
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Yeah, that's unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:40 PM
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Yeah, works inside or outside the house is still relevent, but one is most rewarded by money and fame
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:39 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:13 PM
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Thanks for your response. Do you have any example about the problem concerning boundaries and non-confrontation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:10 PM
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"What is your real type?" I know most of the women I met were primarily interested since I am "good in the paper" as a man and treat people well but I want to know what she find exceptional about me (how close I am to her real type)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:01 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:52 PM
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Tbh, emotions are real and define the perspective of a person. I trully believe everyone should take their feelings and other feelings into account. But feelings aren't the reality. I can be stressed about nothing, and I don't want it to be seen as THE reality. The way women explained to me emotional validation was a bit disturbing. Like if I feel it 2+2= 39247832 today and that's how I will pay my bills. More like emotions can completly disregards facts but don't you dare questioning my feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:46 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:38 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:31 PM
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Tbh even dictators are in their right mind in their perspective. But being validated in my feelings even though what I do isn't right really feel wrong from my perspective as a man. I don't want to be comforted in my wrongs but guided toward what is right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:20 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:15 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:15 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:01 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:59 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:58 PM
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Sorry, I don't get it O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:51 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:51 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:50 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:50 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:49 PM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:47 PM
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Thanks for your feedback
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:46 PM
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Thanks for your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:39 PM
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Thanks for your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:39 PM
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It's "average looks" not "average 100 ks" to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:32 AM
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Now I understand why some men are unhappy. So you admit men also love genetic hypergamy and want to fuck highly attractive women who won't give them the time of the day? I understand now, that looks painful and contribute to the biterness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:30 AM
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Yeah, they matter a lot more when it's about casual sex but men are in a big disadvantage in this field since it's not how women opperate. I agree, downplaying ethnicity and height is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:34 AM
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Tbh, BP are just saying that physical attractiveness is not everything in a woman's attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:44 AM
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A world with more awarness. A world where attraction is part of the equation, not the equation. A world where effort and reciprocation goes hand in hand with sexual interest to know if one should engage. Too much highgly attractive people with bad behaviour are generating broken/bitter/jaded men and women. Too much people are matrixed by Disney and media, leading them to ignore what a healthy relationship is, what are the needs of a man, a woman or a human being in general and especially what ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:30 AM
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That's strange, this society is hypersexualized so that online porn is easely accessible. I heard some guys are just okay by keeping their freedom from a relationship and just jerking off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:21 AM
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I don't really like this explanation. If the validation of her feelings is the solution, it will make men think that the real problem are women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:07 AM
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Yeah you touch a stigma in male female dynamic. Women have been seen as the weaker sex for long time ago, so that the appropriation of mens stuffs is empowerment (pants, higher education or corporate jobs). But men are seen as weak if they take from the feminine side (skirt, stay at home husband, etc.) Nowadays, women are more educated and high paying jobs don't require as much strength and stamina that advantages men I think a human fullfiling their destiny is important and honorable. I just do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:57 AM
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It's more of a comedy videos with exagerations but it display the truth that young men (especially those nowadays) want sex and will want a relationship mainly to secure sex (nothing serious). I won't recommand to bang that much since it's not something healthy for people in the long run Tbh if a I knew in college slide in my dm or contact me, I would be suspicious of her agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:01 AM
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Yeah it depend of the place
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:09 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:58 PM
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Interesting, with a proof as obvious as a video there shouldn't be that much problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:51 PM
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True story, men can put women in a sex without string attached relationship without while women can put men in the friendzone. In general those relationships aren't good for one gender, that's why balance is a must
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:31 AM
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Those looks like emotionally unavaliable men who stay because sex is good. I know some folks who would still pair up with a woman they're incompatible with if she looks good. Like, they don't have anything to talk about, and they don't really enjoy spending time with them but it's ok because sex is amazing?? A complet couple should have 3 dimensions: lovers, friends, coworkers But yeah, men/women shouldn't love how they want to be loved but they should love the way their partner need to be loved
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:57 AM
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Tbh, this is a problem that must be talked about more. But your post looks a bit one sided so you will force people to take one side and reject the other. That's a bit too emotional and looks more like a claim from a private group/sub where everybody can be overtly open without filters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:39 AM
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Thanks, that's the first time someone said that to me. It mean a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:24 PM
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Oh that's great
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:37 PM
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Yeah It's a supply and demand problem. Most women would rather have a relationship than casual sex and most men would rather have casual sex than a relationship That's why we see women put men in the friendzone and men putting women in the situationship/friends with benefits zone So you must provide a lot if you just want casual sex or pay for sex. But I wouldn't recommand you to do that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:06 PM
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The right answer is "All women want to be leaded", because, as you mentioned it, they want to turn their brain down Also don't use an isolated app in germany to say generalities about 50% of humanity. Or at least push the study a bit further to show some real proofs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:01 PM
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I am glad you have a cousin you enjoy spending time with. And of course, you don't need to be with someone 24/7 Perhaps it's just you don't have so much to talk about with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:54 PM
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Yeah I know mate, this pressure us men have is really hard. Fortunately, if you stop caring, life become infinitely better Just answer thoses questions for yourself: Why do you want to be in a relationship? Are there people pressuring you to find someone? Are there people who say to you to "be a man"? Are you taking the time to know yourself outside of the expectations of others Of course, I am not saying it's easy but you can find some solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:51 PM
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You expect them to do something for you? Or it is just they don't act the same as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:46 PM
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Yep you explained it. Having options is power and those who hold power can do whatever they want be it men or women But women tend to be happier alone than men (at least in US). So I feel that men shouldn't be that much pressured to marry or dating to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:44 PM
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Really? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:40 PM
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Strange, you started with feminists, compared them with a group of conservative women. Then when it come to blame you start shooting at every women Of course, there are women who want an advantageous patriarchy but the feminists I know don't enforce gender norm as well as conservative women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:39 PM
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Once you get into a fulfilling relationship and you build a real connexion with the person in front of you, you will see sex differently. It's normal to want to fuck a stranger only if they are hot. But the relationship you create with someone else is priceless. But it's true that if you aren't able to build a deep connexion in a long term relationship you might encounter Midlife-Crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:32 PM
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Tbh I don't know, I have never seen that. But I know the more social a man is, the more likely he will be choosen by a woman, especially if he has female friends. Men are generally struggling to put boundaries with the other females in their life (like their mother). But still not sure about the level of dedication. Do you have some sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:04 AM
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That's why I struggle taking TRP seriousely. They use some kind of pseudo science to justify their emotional based reaction of some phenotypes. The facts aren't bad. They are just incomplet and explained with some questionable science Also, true mathematics where discovered. Our symbols (like numbers and other mathematic expressions) are a way to interpret the existing properties of our universe. We are still discovering things nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:56 AM
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Tbh I don't like the victim mentality some men adopt here. I also don't understand why those men are more against women than "Chads" who are completly "messing the dating pool", but yep, since women are the ones refusing, there might be the problem Of course, women don't have a hive mind, there are more solidarity between them than for men but there are still groups among them with radical ideas and competition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:36 AM
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Jack don't have to take the burden of finding someone for him. A lot of women would be happy single in his place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:04 PM
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Unfortunately a woman would never trully understand the experience of a man even if she were told. The same goes the other way around Also treating those men coward won't make them want to choose the average woman either. Of course they should improve and use their income to pay specialists to help them create good relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:28 AM
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This is one of the biggest distinction between the two gender indeed. In men, love and lust are independent parts while they are interconnected in women. But even in a couple, sex is a small part of the day, so porn isn't a good example I think loving the whole picture depend of the individual. Some men will be out if the woman is not hot enought while some women will be out if the man don't have a specific amount of money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:52 AM
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Height: tall women are the more accepting of short kings. They also fear they partner feels insecure Age: in general, women prefer older men and men prefer younger women. But you're right, I have dated older women but they tend to be less accepting (perhaps it's a form of insecurity) Race: well no. Because of the beauty standards, men of all races tend to go straight to white women. Asian men and black women tend to finish last in term of selection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:40 AM
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I understand your POV since I had the same mindest at the beginning. But it make sense when you look at it like finding a job. As long as there is no signed contract, everything is permited. A company is always making a lot of interviews in paralell and people are always applying to other job Marriage is a contract that is "signed" by the two parties to stay faithful to each other, otherwise it's considered to be cheating. So yes you can date and talk to a lot of other women until you agree with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:29 AM
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No? I mean a woman's friendship is really demanding compared to a man's friendship. So they can tend to have fewer friends but those friends are really close
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:23 AM
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There are now some traffic where the local men use the women in their community to lure vacationers and take everything from them. That can lead to some murders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:20 PM
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Thanks for your post! Turning on a woman with interaction is still a big mystery for me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:24 PM
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I would just add that there are less marriages because a lot of couple are in other situations (bf/gf, partenered, situationship, fwb, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:18 PM
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Good question. The response is, you're free to do what you want. There are a lot of women who don't mind paying their part in the first date. There are also women who don't mind having sex after a few dates. They just don't give it when the man feel entilted to it I don't mind paying during dates but if I see the woman being entilted to it, she is out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:12 PM
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Yeah you're right, it's more about the intentions, not the equation. Those aren't at the same level but still imply enforcing a pipeline that promote a new form of prostitution and human traffic. I have heard stories of vacation bro dying because they were hanging in places they shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:08 PM
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I just think modern dating is harder since we are ultra connected without depth. I am more used in a system when the man court the woman and together do the work of becoming one. Yes men and women already have their bad sid, but things like ONS, FWB, situationship, social media and other things related to sexual liberation have permited a lot of shitty things. We are now paying the price of it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:02 PM
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Taking advantage of your socioeconomocal status to get impressible young women from poorer country isn't right. It's like going to another country to buy slave since it's allowed there. It's normal for the people there but for us who were born free, it's bad to exploit and perpetuate a bad system
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah, human beings are also shallow. But what I understand from the red pilled redditors here is the intention of telling "women are shallow too" which is true by itself, but they keep bringing twisted stories that do not reflect reality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:02 AM
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In it's original definition, a passport bro was someone who leave his country to start and build a new life in another country so that wasn't that bad. But if you take those young men who do sex vacation, that's morally wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:57 AM
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Hi, well the answer is a bit complex. Men/women only see the surface of what being a woman/man is (survival bias) so a lot of people will say wrong sentences like "I would be better in this position" but that's not true So you don't need to take any complain seriousely, I don't do that either. I also don't think women should lower their standards or men should up their games. It's more about knowing better what each gender needs, because I think our needs are not as incompatible as we think
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:52 PM
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Well, the fact is men are better at separating love and lust while for women, it's interconnected. You're completly right, exept some anomalies, men are only attracted to human women The problem arise while a man and a woman interact. Wives complain when their husband only touch them with sexual intend or some women find the man they often hook up with heartless because they catch feelings while their male counter part doesn't. This plus sexual harassment (which is more than inacceptable) cause …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:38 PM
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It's not really how it looks like. Men and women also have their way of showing love and care. I noticed that celebrating birthdays and spending a lot of time together means a lot for most women. Even though that's not that important to me. I am always grateful for the work they do and try to reciprocate. Sometimes women show love in a way we don't get and the same goes for them to the point they are asking themself if their partner love them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:02 PM
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I am sorry if you or the women in your life have been hurt, but saying that a woman is valuable just by existing is a complet insult for those who weren't chosen because they are seen as ugly by most men who judge by looks while ignoring personnality Each individual deserve basic love and respect but romantic love need a bit more work and intention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:40 PM
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I am not a slut shamer but I trully hate casual sex and imodedty since it didn't do good as a sum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:09 PM
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I partially agree. Women are not a hive mind. Ithe women you know act like that, you should avoid them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:59 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:48 PM
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Can you share some of those studies? Does those studies says that women are alone like "I am single" or alone like "I feel lonely"? Does it impact their well being as much as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:55 PM
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That's debatable IMH. Women tend to compensate with female friendship but there is a big category of loner among men. Plus men tend to be more vocal about that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:49 PM
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Thanks for your feedback. Yeah objectification is not the right term. I am looking for another word since sexual desire doesn't apply respect too Yes, "always going slower as a woman" is directed toward men since we have the tendency to not understand the need of safety and comfort for a woman. It's more a "think before you act" kind of advice since they are more likely to "act" if they're interested (men a pressured to play a performative role)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:09 PM
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Thanks, those are great advices
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:58 PM
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I feel like the things you listed don’t have much to do with dating. How does having a lifestyle you like affect dating? I also feel like most people already “are themselves”. It’s a bit of an empty platitude. Unfortunately, men have the pressure of performing during dating since they are the ones who need to "pursue" and lead. Leading a lot of them to lose themself trying to please a woman Agree, except that women like to be objectified. Women like to be desired but not objectified. Okay, make …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:56 PM
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Yes I agree! But the level of depth is different for men and women. Women tend to think that male friendship are shallow because they don't know each details of the life of each other. My wife is thinking really hard before being friend with another woman because they have to call nearly everyday, go out a lot, share about their life experience, etc. Tbh I find it really tiring and I don't do/require that much from my male friends So imagine this kind of difference when people are married. I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:45 PM
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Okay, make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:41 PM
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If by "genes first" you mean, not being ugly we can agree. I don't agree with marriage as a proof of "in depth relationship" a lot of marriages don't have that depth, that's why a lot of them end in divorces. You can easely see a lot of women content explaining the lack of emotional depth men generally have. That's litterally systemic. The loneliness epidemy men are living is a proof that most lack the competence to build enought depth to even build friendship I agree with the rest. Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:39 PM
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You only talk about the sexual part (genes) making it one dimensional and don't explain everything. When a woman want a partner, she intend to spend most of her time with him, having emotional intimacy, doing a lot of stuff together and so on. Men generally don't think they really need that depth in a relationship but prefer sex to connect Why do you think men are more prone to situationship, FWB or sex without any string attached, while women prefer putting men in friendzone? Because there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:56 AM
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It worked for me though. It's more about being fun to be around and make each person you meet (man or woman) feel special. Just imagine how you would like to be treated
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:43 AM
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Oh, thanks for your insight. This is really interesting. I didn't know about this dynamic. Fortunately, attractiveness for a female perspective is not only in the eyes. There can be ways to cater to the female gaze (like improving your social circle)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:33 AM
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I think you're too much about the narrative in your head. I do the same for women who complain about the fact there isn't any good man. It's about the common denominator I am sorry if you took it personnaly. That was not my intention
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:30 AM
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Oh it makes more sense. You're right, a super attractive man can get a free pass. But that's strange if each woman you dance with systematically leave
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:48 AM
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Tbh you attract what you propose. Sure those guys will attract entilted women. That's why it's better to be yourself and attract the right person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:30 AM
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I am sorry you're nauseatting every woman you're trying to attract. I don't know how you proceed, but it looks like you're doing something wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:28 AM
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Yeah content from hurt people are like that, it being told by a man or a woman don't matter that much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:49 PM
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I am sorry if you have been hurt in the past. Been her too. To explain it to you, when someone love something (for instance if I like soccer), they will spent time, energy and resources for that because doing so make them happy. If you find a woman you love and she love you TOO, you will be more than happy. My error in the past was to put too much attention to looks over personality and how a woman treat me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:44 PM
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Tbh I don't like when people use celebrities as an example since they experience a drastically different life than the average people, and it's not only financially. I also think a celebrity can get another category of man than an average woman can't really get, so settling is also a different experience Also we all know that being married is not the key to hapiness. Only happy people can make happy marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:28 PM
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I will say it depend. Can help to know how to love her better but can also signal unrealistic expectations about love, romance or a relationship. So it depend of how much she id grounded with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:22 PM
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I second this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:45 PM
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Hi mate, the BP is not a cult. We don't follow it as religiousely as RP, we don't have that dedication and discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:15 AM
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I don't really agree. It's like saying you can succeed and being rich when you come from a precarious context. Of course there are some instance but it's not a statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:07 AM
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You know people can adopt an ideology if they like it? Like I am pretty sure a lot of RP don't have parent who are themself RP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:55 AM
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That can be a real crush. You should just test the water and reciprocate in your way. If you see things escalating progressively that mean this person is into you. That's gendered, but it's generally the man who make the first step and start expressing verbally his interest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:32 AM
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I think both partner should be viewed as the price. I worked to design my life, make good money, have a good grooming and give my partner princess treatment but only if I consider her to be worthy for that and if she find me worthy of her love
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:55 AM
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Well I was raised to be a provider. I never expected a woman to be funny. But yeah it's a good plus if she do. My partner is not particularily funnier than the average human being but her attitude make me laught sometime when she don't try No, I first find a woman attractive and then notice "Oh she is funny"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:52 AM
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That looks deep. Can you elaborate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:33 AM
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Women generally prefer lean body with low body fat. You don't have to be build like a tank
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:31 AM
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Some of those men can't read signs and other didn't put the work on themself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:28 AM
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I undertand what you mean. What I admire about women is that they don't have too much consideration from stranger while men do a lot. I think men suffer at the beginning and at the end while women suffer most in between For instance men need to go through a lot of rejection when exposing their interest to the woman they like. Women suffer when they are with a man who don't give commited relationship or with a man who is a bad partner. Men suffer with divorse because women generally detach to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:26 AM
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No I was meaning your definition
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:27 PM
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Interesting thought, that might explain things
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:32 PM
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That's a good way to phrase it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:29 PM
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Yeah, even if it's in monolithlang, you nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:25 PM
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Interesting, I didn't know about that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:51 AM
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That's a bit exagerated. Yes there are women who have statistics but it's more about how many time they're approached. Not the number of rejection (except some sadic weirdos). Sure there are girl addict to attention but this shouldn't be generalized to a whole gender I don't really understand the goal of your post tbh. Women like attention since human beings want and need attention. Is it another "Women are evil" post? Also I recommand you to not go around those toxic woman seeking for attention…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:51 AM
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Yeah I clearly missused the word. Thanks for your explanation. Okay, if consent is not always verbal it make sense. I was really uneasy about the formal/verbal part of the consent since it has turned off my partner quite often and that's not generally how women communicate in the context of romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:39 AM
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Yeah you're right, I should pay more attention to how I word things. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:35 AM
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Really? I don't really know about the long term partner thing since I hear more about dead bedrooms but it must come with my experience which is not the experience of everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:34 AM
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Completly agree, no one should cross any boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:32 AM
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You have found a good balance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:31 AM
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Yeah this is what I generally do. It's generally better to read the room since not everybody is direct let alone women. That's why those consent rules looks a bit overkill
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:30 AM
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Sound like gaslighting to me if you don't give further explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:28 AM
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Thank you for your support
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:27 AM
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Not if your partner want you to be romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:29 AM
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I see your point. It come along with using things like condom and other stuff if you do it with a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:24 AM
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Yeah I agree. Consent is not always a verbally written contracts about things. Most of the time, it should come naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:23 AM
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Does that really exist? Then they shouldn't be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:20 AM
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Interesting, that's a good case of survivor bias. Women experience men who are bold enough to come to them and some of them are clearly crossing boundaries. But there is a category of men who never approach women or don't succeed because they are taken by this consent policy. But generally most women don't see them since they don't show up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:20 AM
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Yeah people should be more expressive about what they want and should work on finding conpromise without crossing boundaries. That's the heart of negotiation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:14 AM
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I see what you mean but that can be misleading. It's like saying you can always get refund to all your transactions
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:12 AM
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Well, if you have to record the woman she shouldn't be trusted at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:11 AM
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This is interesting. What are your experience about consent and how the consent rule affect relationship in your surrounding ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:09 AM
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Yeah in your case rejecting the effect on consent is a must
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:08 AM
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Yeah, in your case enforcing consent is a must
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:08 AM
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That's a good practice. What I mean by "asking before each move" is about women who prefer you ask them if you can hold their hand or open the car door for them. There are other women when those things shouldn't be asked but acted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:06 AM
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I think that was last year. She looked like the kind of girl who rejected me back then But I am also intimidated by women who are too much in a regular basis
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:23 AM
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You could make film with that you know? In reality women don't really work like men in term of attraction. You should look stories of women failing to get a man. You could notice a pattern of things who could get a woman but not a man. It's the same there. People who don't try to study correctly the subject fail the exam Also women don't lie about this, they just don't have the same experience and can't understand us
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:18 AM
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Yep the confirmation bias is real
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:10 AM
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Yeah we don't have clear data on that. No people will call themself "abuser". It's generally women who are in a relationship with an abuser who repport this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:07 AM
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Well you get things backward. Women DID fight for their rights. You're also following the cliché of each man is an oppressors and each woman is a victim. I come from a minority in term of ethnicity and I followed this kind of mentality until until I stopped thinking a whole race was entirely responsible for the pain of the other. There are bad men and women and the gender war is real because people get hurt and bring it to internet like you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:03 AM
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I don't believe in manicheism. Every people who promote that kind of agenda are untrustworthy for this. A love fighting the manosphere and the feminist movement where it doesn't maje sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:53 AM
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It can happend with women in women's space and men in men's space. They just need to look elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:49 AM
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Yep rejection is huniliating for any human being and the women who instrumentalize it to hurt another human being are bad. I never believed in cold approaches. Women don't work that way. It's like a woman offering a man a romantic platonic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:41 AM
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Good definition, I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:11 PM
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Tbh mate, it depend of your context. Every woman in my surrounding find it to be a turn off if a man drink
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:04 PM
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You're right about an existing minefield men experience. But with knowledge and experience it make sense and that's quite a useful tool Showing interest is not a binary thing. Imagine a DJ playing either very loud musics or no music at all. You will clearly prefer the ones who are more balanced. You will see that women often play in that field when they are flirting. If you understand this language you will go place It's true they are hypocrits women since they are hypocrits human beings. But sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:32 AM
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Wow those are signs of a manipulative woman if she call that "platonic". She just know how to tease men and can use it to obtain some favor "for free"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:45 AM
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Yeah that's a bit strange but being an misogynist is a big trun off for women in this day an age so that's the quickest shortcut they can imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 10:19 AM
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I don't feel pressured to pursue a woman tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:49 PM
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I was there because I was heart broken but now I am in a happy relationship but are still interested to debate and understand the various life experience people have in this sub. I think you're over simplifying things. I have made a post to know why people are there, that was interesting to know the different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:47 PM
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Women are not asexual but far less sexual than men because of biology and context Men should slow down and women should learn more about their sexuality I think it's a team work. Some kind of puzzle to make everyone happy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:38 PM
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Well, in my case there were some women in my friend group who were interested. I think it depend on how you work on your attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:33 PM
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To be on the same ground. Are you talking about physical attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:26 PM
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You're right, if there is 100% love of the other gender you can also be dellusional about how things really are. It's more like a spectrum with each side being hate and love to the extrem and neutral at the center
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:19 PM
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Yeah there is no conspiracy and ignorance is really killing love fore real
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:07 AM
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I am not sure they are contradictory but sure you can't please every woman. The best move is to choose the ones whose supply and demand match yours
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:57 PM
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Yeah, you're right. I completly forgot about the opportunistic gurus
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:38 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:53 PM
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I get a "Look at me teach a lesson to the representent of all woman by flipping the script on her" kind of vibe. This is mainly a specific case and she looked interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 11:24 AM
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I understand your point. This is the difference between how men and women fall in love. Everything become clear when I learned men fall in love much quicker in the sense that they are more emotionally involved at the beginning (thus having the power to pursue). Sometimes women fall in love with friend and thought he fall in love with her approximatively at the same time but in reality he might have loved her for years But yeah, the guy who ask random women out is just a horny dude and there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:21 AM
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I wouldn't completly agree with that. It's like saying old school patriarchy hasn't gone too far because there were still women succedding in this kind of context
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:14 AM
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I don't agree. I came from a disadvantaged context. I know some kids are born with a silver spoon and will never worry to lack something or even find a job because the parents got everything. But that doesn't mean I would stop to work. I know what a want and I will work for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:12 AM
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Tbh for a long time in my life I thought women were asexual, but fortunately it changed. In my case I am with someone I don't really know if they're attracted to me. But I think they like me though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:39 PM
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I think it's about unsuccessful men who don't want to put more effort and justify their conditions with some form of injustince toward how women treat a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:18 PM
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Idk if you're asking the same men but it's sure there are a lot of cracks who enjoy gaslighting. As a man I can assure you that there is a lot of shaming happening toward women and that's not ok at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:16 PM
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It's simple, if she do it with everyone and it happend randomly, there are no clear signs. If she do that only with you and show you that for a long enough period, she is into you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:40 PM
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I think it's already happening no? Like paying prostitutes and escort is also a way to pay for the submission of a woman who will grant a man's will. Men are just generally shamed on it but in country where paying for prostitution has not a bad connotation are more liberal and admit more diversity in term of couple formation. Men are less likely to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:55 AM
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Tbh I can't handle to much compassion toward me. The conditioning also apply to men themself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:43 AM
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I don't understand where the problem is tbh. Promiscuity shouldn't be a good thing at all imo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:41 AM
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Not always the case. The truth people don't want to hear is the uncomfortable truth. Everybody aknowledge the truth of the existance of gravity or mankind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:51 PM
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Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that people see things like that. For some men, a woman's history isn't relevent for others, being attracted to a woman with a lot of sexual partner is as repulsive as being attracted to a siblings. People just need to find who they're compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:40 PM
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Yeah that was something I was surprised by. I have even see case of good looking guy who didn't find any date. I asked different pills and understood part of the problem was a question of environment. There are place where being a single virgin over 30 is perfectly normal where you are a complet loser if you didn't had sex and 1 partner before 18. There are places where casual sex is the norm while waiting for the mariage is the custom. Even certain "type" are popular in some place and not popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:47 PM
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Some of those men are making excuse because dating is tiring but they want to put all the responsibility to women. People generally don't understand that dating and love don't reward efforts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:39 PM
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This is interesting! It looks like you have found your way, mate. Indeed I don't think there is a "one size fit all" rule in dating. In my case a LTR is what I needed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:07 AM
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There are some truth in what you say since women don't need a man to survive nowadays but it would be strange to ignore the effect of social media. There are a lot of girl who feel ugly because of that. The standards of some women grew bigger because of that By applying social media's princess treatment and comforming to the female gaze, I drastically increased my likelyhood to be selected by women. So I think there are some influence. For instance we all know that this gender war is fed by soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:03 AM
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Yeah, this is called "girl pretty" or "boy pretty". Pretty can vary according to wich gaze is acting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:10 PM
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In my case I have only heard about horror stories. There is generally one who still want to stay casual and keep their options while the other catch feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:02 PM
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True story. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:41 PM
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Oh a wise redditor! How did you end there mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:37 AM
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You nailed it sis💯
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:49 AM
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This is true, you can't be attractive to every women but you can with a specific group of women. But the general advice is to looks "good on the paper", work on your grooming, be social and have a lot of female friend, then a group of women will be interested in you and you just have to pick the one you prefer, then you follow her lead to make the relationship progress. This is foolish to want to please any woman not acknowledging their own various personality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:26 AM
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From what I understand it's a subtile counter argument about the comment incel recieve "if you can't find someone, that mean you have some kind of moral defect". So they can say "See? Even those assholes found someone". The main point is some men are not chosen because they are not physically attractive and women are hypergamous. And some incel have taken the mission to reveal the "hypocrisy" of women explaining their choice. That's the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:10 AM
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I stumble into this subreddit while I was heart broken but I discovered content from manosphere way before, while I was looking for a way to attract a woman I had a crush on. But the RP content was full of hate and I wasn't able to learn more meaningful things That's why I had to broke my algorithm to find more content directed to women. I was also surprised to find hate content against men and as you say those contents come from wounded unhealed people. There are some gems, but the algorithm is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:01 AM
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Yeah, it's acting like an entilted kid to reject someone who rejected you in the past just because of your pride. But yeah, if you're at a other step in your life that doesn't make you available for her, this is not a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:42 PM
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Marriage became less attractive for both parties. Internet id creating echo chamber and put ideas that the other gender is bad. Men have also less testosterone and are less assertive because of dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:33 PM
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Bi for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:13 PM
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I love this advice! The one I use is show her your love at the beginning of the day and message her whenever you think about her. Help us keep our bond
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:58 PM
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I know this color distinction come from capitalism as a way to create identity around products. There are things women took from men as an empowerment tools because they where allowed to men and not for women. You can take the example of pants. Nowaday it's normal for a woman to wear that but its not normal for a man to wear a skirt because a feminine man is considered weak. It's also empowering for women to take job that are generally taken by men but it's not really the case the other way arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:59 PM
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Well it depend of the definition of bagages. For me it means unhealed wounds that could make a relationship harder than it should be. It just put both parties in hard mode. No bagage is one of the filter I have when dating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:46 PM
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Interesting, I still want to bang her any time. But I have to admit it's way better when she put sexy clothes. But it's true my love for her change the datas
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:17 PM
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Yes I have heard about some women who are looking for a unicorn for a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:28 AM
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Thanks, that was insightful. Great diagram btw👍
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:27 AM
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Okay, that make sense. So being a criminal is not what make a man hot by himself. So you can be a criminal but it doesn't add attractive points
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:15 AM
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Women are not at all wonderful since they are also human. But the RPs make it looks like women are evil. Why not saying women are humans as well as men? I do agree his post show archetypes that women don't find unattractive. But going to the point of thinking women find them attractive is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:57 AM
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The #5 surprise me a lot since I belong to the unaware group of men. I prefer when my partner is comfortable in house clothes with no make up tbh. But I also like if preparing herself make her confident in social settings, she looks happy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:31 AM
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Yes there are horny women and horny men but the later outperform the number of horny women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:23 AM
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Once again few of your informations are provable. The oppression about women's sexuality and the risk are real (and prove my point at the same time) but the rest of your arguments come from no where from my perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:12 PM
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Just to signal that testosterone is also what lead men's sexual drive and it's like 10 time bigger in men than women (even in their pick) so that validate my point btw But again, that's what I am talking about. You have needs but don't as much as us. Why don't you undertand the struggle of sexual needs in men? Just look at the r/DeadBedroom community and you will understand that's mainly men who join this community. Just look the r/loveafterporn community and you will understand that's mainly wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:55 AM
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Noice👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:22 AM
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I am not sure where you find your stats but from what I hear in the women's communities, masturbating is something women discover and try willingly like smoking. It's generally when the woman is adventurous or miss their partner. It is usually celebrated when a woman takes the plunge. On the other hand masturbation start in a man's life when when puberty begins and that's something he has to fights for the rest of his life. I mean some men will masturbate several times a day if they have no disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:22 AM
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What's what I think. Generally men are attracted to a lot of women, but film make they aim for the hottest girl. I thought before it was about the purest and/or more vertuous woman who also appear to be the hottest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:26 AM
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It depend, I am pro adoption and can date woman 10 years older than me. But I couldn't date a single mother. That's where I draw the line
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:18 PM
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A bit brutal but I think anyone has the right to seek help
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:16 PM
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To say the truth, no. Men aren't taught to look for a provider woman. They are taught to be a provider. Like money and status don't matter that much in term of a woman's attractiveness The general story is the guy ending with the hotest girl of the story
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:09 PM
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The man you choose will be a lucky guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:57 PM
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Oh yes, you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:56 PM
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I am more blueish even though I recognize some facts of other movements. Blue pillers are not Care Bears you know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:14 PM
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True story, that's why it's hard to overgeneralize saying "this big group is better than this one" since jugements are targeted to individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:11 PM
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I don't like men/women playing the morality card for general cases when it's something "natural". It's like saying herbivores are good because they don't eat other animals like carnivores do. Or a rich born saying their more moral than poor people because they don't steal or beg. To each gender its sin according to their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:46 PM
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Well men are more sexual in term of frequency and sexual novelty, they are more spontanuous in term of arousal to the point they are putting some pression to their partner. The orgasm gap is not a myth. You can also see lesbian couples having less sex than heterosexual couples and gay couple having the most sex out of every couples Of course there are instance of women who are more sexual than most men but they're not the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:41 PM
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Well no. Women enjoy sex but clearly not as much as men do. The argument of men wanting to fuck any woman is a bit gross. But it's more about sexual novelty. But even when we only consider frequency, it's well know men want sex more often than women. The orgasm gap isn't a myth So yes men have more sexual needs than women but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy sex. It's like saying than women have more emotional needs than men so men don't have any emotion and systematically use it as a tool to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:36 PM
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Idk, your explanation was great at the beginning but I don't think people can change their preferences in what their attracted to like that. That's why I tell other men women can't lower their standards But it's true that men are less likely to engage in LGBTQIA+ than women because of the stigmat around being a man. Plus men are more likely to say their are single while stringing along situationship than women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:06 AM
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Tbh men define their prime the moment they get more options (since they have a lot less options than women). That's why it generally come between 30 and 40. There are a lot of young men who think their prime is during their early age like women their age but don't understand that doesn't work like that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:57 AM
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Good advice but I wouldn't suggest at all orienting your life around women at all. That's really unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:49 PM
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I agree, diversity is what make things interesting and what make the partner we choose special
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:14 PM
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I think it's not a black or white situation. For instance, I am okay paying for dates but not being the one initiating anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:27 AM
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I see your point but you ignore the experience of men and thus the gender expectation on them. Very few men have no expectation of a woman working or earning anything since they are the ones expected to provide About the beauty standards I have to admit men are more visual but men don't expect you to be the next hot actress of the century. Indeed men are attracted to a lot of women and can easely go for an average women. This pressure is mainly put by other women Men are also expected to bring m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:22 AM
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We still not there yet. Even though there where some progress, women are still the ones taking a lot of the house chore while even when both are working, let alone other stuff like keeping the family and othe relationships together. study I dislike women and men who don't try to understand the difficulties of the other gender
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:13 AM
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BP, RP and other pills will always exist since the conditions for them to be born are still there. A lot of guy in my community continue to become BP because they don't have the same experience as RP people. At the beginning, I saw some RP claim as pure fantasy worth writting a sci-fi book but I learned and had now a broader view of things, thus my initial claim
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:33 PM
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I was wrong about the fact everyone experience the same thing. It's like assuming every student in a school have the same environment at home. We clearly know some have toxic families who are not helping them having a bright future I have even heard of settings where a man/womanwho don't lose their virginity before 20 are social outcast. A late bloomer like me wouldn't have been able to fit in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:27 PM
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You should see the number of complains men do about the dating phase against women during the relationship stage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:06 PM
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In general men works more during the dating stage, while women do more during the relationship stage. Guess what last the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:00 PM
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That's an overstatement. Women bring more during the relationship while men bring more during the courting phase
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:50 PM
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Thanks, attention seeking is a problem by itself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:38 PM
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This is interesting indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:23 PM
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I have heard about the pick-me. What make it dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:43 PM
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To bring s bit of a balance, I would say the context is good enough to generate new colored pill users because they help the men involved to avoid the hard reality of "I am not enough" especially when feminist rethorics can be used by some man-hating women to degrade men's condition (and purpose for some). So those movements give the empathy they didn't find elsewhere + mysoginistic content as a side effect But still, I don't like the message RP and blackP are giving and especially their followe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:40 PM
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Well there is a spectrum between speaking platonically and talking about pssy and dck. Also don't blend romantism and sex too much. They say that to filter men who are only about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:17 PM
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You're speaking in monolithlang mate. There are a lot of women who dress up decently, unless you don't consider them as women of course. Also those who dress up too sexy are called "slut" or "whore" by other people be it men or women so no worry, they have their own share of insult The same goes for OF models. I don't think everyone is praising them for what they're doing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:12 PM
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Yeah I have to admit that even I was not raised to be a SAHD. I would be considered a failure in my family and surrounding for that. That's some gender expectation for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:03 PM
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Tbh a man is more likely to say yes even if he don't see a woman in a commited relationship. But yes there is often low investment at the beginning since the man isn't into the woman. This experience is what men share but at least the woman end up catching feelings and everything start to find a balance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:00 PM
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Well said mate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:25 AM
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Of course being lonely matter, I was not talking about that. Attacking video games is something I won't let slide 1 How are they lies? That's pretty obvious. "You will find your soulmate", "A lot of single people availiable". No, dating apps are liying by a lot. They aren't made by benevolent organization with non profit goal, so it's not hard to know the algorithm isn't there for the future of humanity 2 The blue pill still had no proof of average men being genuinely desired by women, despite a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:23 AM
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Men are doing this because they're lonely. They're not lonely because they're doing this. This topic doesn't matter. There is a lot of gamers with girlfriends and a lot of gamer without. Yet men have been voting more and more conservative each year. Wonder why? Yeah there is this pipeline from the lies of dating apps to the manosphere/conservative mindset. I wonder how things will get in the future but it's interesting to watch
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:48 AM
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Tbh I don't really take that into account. If she isn't into me I move on. If she come back and I am still available, we can start something. But if the energy is off, I won't continue. If she really think of me as a backup plans I will see it in our interactions, her effort and reciprocation and things will end naturally. If she is genuilly into me, what she offer will be good enough to marry. Never underestimate the vetting process
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:08 AM
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I mostly agree. To do an analogy with a market: if no one is buying your product because it's worthless, you might be with the wrong market place. Things like dating apps don't play in favor of men in general. That's why I agree men should improve but also choose a market where they are really valued
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:57 AM
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I recognize some good points from RP but some assumption are wrong and the methods are questionable For instance the girl who choose the "bad boy" generally has a lot of red flags to begin with. There is no need to build bitterness. You just need to teach a man what a good partner is It's generally the "nice guy" who fell for the hot toxic girls around him and don't understand their behaviours. He then meet the manosphere who say things like "Women are X", "Women are Y", etc. Now the "nice guy" …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:53 AM
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Well depend of wich redpill. The redpill rethoric is a bit neutral but the guys who are self-proclaimed Red pill are generally bitter and misogynistic. But we can't put every RP in the same box
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:00 PM
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Hi, I think you're jumping to fast to conclusion and looking at your history you might come from echo chambers. There are some truth about what you say but there are also a lot of men who contradict your point. Nowadays there are more content centered about female pleasure (even though there are still a minority) and a lot of men willing to make sex a good experience for their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:37 PM
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I will look for the kind of man I was raised to be: a kind competent provider. I would rather look at the kind of spirit he has instead of his skills. When a man has a growth mindset and a provider mentality, the needed skill set will come naturally If I have my knowledge as a man, it would be easy to bond with him and make him fall in love with me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:21 PM
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There are some truth but I would say being good and bad is not a binary thing but more like a spectrum. I generally but things like this: Your level of attractiveness is proportional with the amount of bad behaviours you can demonstrate and get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:13 PM
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Well said mate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:00 PM
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As a man, I don't see why it's unfair. It is what it is and wanting to alter too much natural things will hurt a lot. It's like women who want to pee while standing like men. I mean, they could in a certain way but they would nether experience it like a man. This also apply for men wanting to experience pregnancy or women wanting to play against men in sports. Men could never access the same experience as women in the dating field and this is the same for women. Each one should play according to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:57 PM
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Flirting is a no and if me or my partner still go clubbing after we got together, there is a problem imo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:51 AM
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I agree that no one should expect from their partner what we expect from a whole village. And yes, some men just want sex from women. I think if we remove the stigmatisation around sex comsuption (porn, sex workers, etc.), we would remove some bad candidates for a modern relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:09 PM
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I think it explain part of the problem but not all. Also no one can change their attraction to a specific gender. Saying people dating their own gender because they can't find something within their target gender is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:01 PM
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Yep, I am all about the vetting process. Catching feelings is nice and all, but loving a compatible person is way better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:28 PM
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I think sex as a reward could works with the gay community. Even though there are nowadays means to atenuate that, sex is more risky for women, let alone the fact they are more likely to avoid taking risk than men. It's a bit like women expecting commitment as a reward for giving sex, since men are less likely to commit since they came primarily for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:52 AM
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Tbh I won't date women I consider being out of my league. A man can date below but it's harder for a woman. A woman can date above, but it's harder for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:45 AM
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The only place this strategy works if when you play games. A woman's attraction can grew if you treat her the right way. The problem with us men come when we start dating a woman, we can have the tendency of love bombing or doing to much at the beginning and withdraw after a 3-6 month because we don't have the chemicals to help us The only case a woman leave you when you treated her well is when she was not attracted to you to begin with and gave you a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:43 AM
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Yeah I was purple at the beginning. But after a moment debating in this sub a redditor told me "Why are you purple? You your values are clearly BP". So I checked my history, did some research and conclued they were right so I changed my flair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:34 AM
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I agree but I'm not sure it contributes to men's mental health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:43 PM
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To say the truth I make distinctions between people. Before being men or women, we are human beings. I made a distinction between women who can choose well or badly; there are still other categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:42 PM
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I partially agree. It's like struggling to find a job because you're constently rejected but seeing companies complaining about the poor quality of the people they're hiring. But some people understand it's not only about the inherent qualities but also how you can sell the product. So sales skills and having a good network could help you find a job So yeah, they are just jealous because they just invested in qualities that didn't help them being chosen while others found the tricks to be bare m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:08 AM
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I partially agree. A creepy guy won't appear as creepy to other men since he need this sexual urge he doesn't control. This kind of creep is indeed corrected by his male friend but he just learn to hide it to them but still act that way with women, like a teenage who learn to hide his porn magazins. Also women avoid at all cost this kind of creep But you're right, there is also attractive toxic men women choose and end up badly with but would you choose a woman who is bad at choosing a partner? …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:01 AM
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Well through history, mariage was never about love until recently. So people will argue it's becoming "normal" again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:48 AM
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Well that's still 1 out of 5 women you know in your surrounding. Imagine it being 1 out of 5 men you know being accused of false rape allegations Also women can be the target of bad men more than what you think (cat calling, being followed, etc.), I saw a vids compiling what some women experience and I completly understand why it's uncomfortable Us men have a lot of problem but so do women because that's what make us human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:44 AM
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Well your stats are a bit weird. There ARE men and women apologizing for what their gender do/did
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 07:37 AM
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I agree to some extends. Yes you should take seriousely your selection process and we know how inexperienced we are in this field when to young. But if you wait until your 30s to find someone it will be harder
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:46 PM
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Partially agree. Women can be part of this pipeline but they are not the ones who teach red pill mantras. Everyone is lied to by Disney and get hurt by reality. RP guru are just the most in tune with male's nature and take most things to the primitive level
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:41 PM
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I partially agree. There are a lot of advantage being a woman because you can recieve so much attention, help, gifts or financial investment if you work enougth on your attractivity. Plus finding dates can be on easy mode since you're the one waiting for the man to prove himself But for the rest I completly agree. As a man, you just have to be attractive, look for women who show signs of interest, choose the one you like and invest on her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 11:00 PM
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Yep, each human being should be treated with a minimum of dignity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:41 AM
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This is a good analogy. Unfortunately there are also more people who are childfree in this economy or men who just want a partner for sex without real commitment let alone having children. Still pregnancy is a real value-add
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:46 AM
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I think it's okay if she is still happy. Her happiness is my goal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:41 AM
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Yep this is a skill someone can learn. There are a lot of good books for that. But actually a lot of men are fighting just for the fact of being seen, let alone being chosen. This scarcity mindset make a lot of them unaware of being a good father
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:35 AM
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I partially agree. The advice they give is for the moment you enter a relationship. Because the men they dated where attractive but lack those traits. So being nice is really good if you're already attractive. They miss the point when it's about a man wanting to be chosen in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:30 AM
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Well it still works though. It's just incomplet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:27 AM
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Each one decide so nothing can be done about this situation. I don't particularily think it's unfair, but I might miss some context
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:16 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:13 PM
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Interesting concept but I think women are looking more into LTR so the beta bux version for women is the situationship/FWB without commitment imh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:49 PM
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Tbh I am a trainer/teacher and have no problem adopting children. But I have to admit I am matrixed to this rout of having children with my blood🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:43 PM
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Yep I am seeing this narrative of men and women not wanting to marry because of those things happening. I am happy because my partner and I aren't anything like that. But it also make me think this is an overstatement coming from those who has never ever been married (with some exception of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:41 PM
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Career has little impact on the divorce. I would rather say choosing women with the same amount of income could better lead to divorce imho. But it's true, men should choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:24 PM
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Unfortunately wearing less cloth will objectively draw attention (and some women clearly know what they are doing). It's related to mens biology. But there is a difference between looking (aka noticing) and staring (looking for un uncomfortable amount of time)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:14 PM
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My life was easier because I knew the role I was playing and what to focus on to "succeed" It made my life harder when it clashed with my personality. I was more of an introverted nerd but some toxic masculinity expectations made me seen as less than a man (introvert, shy, not extremlly tall or muscular, etc.). But I decided to show up as who I really am I think it depend of what norms was broken. I choose my norms according to my value. I am still against men who are to emotionally open with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:58 AM
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This is not the cause of the declining in birth rate. People want less kids since it's more a cost than an investment. There is a rise of childfree (and not "childless") couples for a reason. The ones you met on the dating apps are the ones who stays to play around
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:21 AM
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Yes each people and demographic have their own experience but RP seems to ignore different experiences too. Also you speak in monolithlang
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:15 AM
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I completly agree, this is annoying. But you have to communicate the way women communicate. Just throw some sign of interest and see if she respond. If it's not the case you have your response and you can move on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:56 AM
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Well you can if you see first people as human being with their dignity. Then you can appreciate their gender
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:47 AM
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Nope, a problem is still a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:45 AM
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Well, they are not a monolith. Some women are fighting against it and some women are fighting for it. The second group see sex workers as vulnerable against their male client since some of them where forced to prostitution. They promote other kind of prostitution like OF who are more safe for a woman for instance Maybe a lot of women would be okay with sex work if it's not as risky as it is for women and if all the workers made the choice to go that path for themself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:40 AM
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I think you're doing a mismatch between women and society and also between women themself. Of course there is a group who want to take everything to their advantage, but will they find men who will accept this unbalanced contract ? You just have to find a woman who is morally clean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:27 AM
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Tbh I will feel offended although I thought that way when I was younger. This idea came from the purity culture
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:23 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story. That's completly understandable and things shouldn't be that hard for us men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:55 AM
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I think it was painful when I was a teenager but it was mainly from the pressure to have a girlfriend at that time. Tbh I didn't really felt "lonely" but I realized my consumption of romance story and some porn was high. It just wasn't a priority since I have friends and inspiring projects. I also recently discovered I am an avoidant I think I have a pretty high drive. The kind of drive that could have made me a gooner if I had nothing else interesting to do. I am still surprised that my partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 10:39 PM
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Well until my 30s I never had a girlfriend, never kissed and I am still a virgin. Being single is not a big deal since I don't tie it to my personality as a way to know my value It's all about context. If I was in a place where being a milionnaire was the norm or you're a complet looser, my financial condition would be a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:34 PM
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> Sexual intimacy is not just about pleasure it is deeply tied to self-worth, confidence, and emotional stability. This is a cultural fact that can be change by switching your perspective/mindset. > Dating apps ensure that even an average woman has no shortage of sexual or romantic options. Normal, dating apps aren't really tailored for a woman's attraction. Indeed, women are more pickier in dating apps Also tbh, there are plenty of men who are more than happy just having friends and watching po…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:14 PM
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I agree with one part but not the other. To put it simply, men and women are shamed for their preferences. If a woman want a tall man or a man want a woman with big breasts, some people will see it as shallow while others will find it normal. This is not a double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah, even though we are in a more progressive society, women who present skill related to traditionnal gender roles will get a lot of points. But she have to ask herself what type of guy she will attract. There are a group of men/women who still want traditionnal gender roles/attributes for the other gender while breaking free for their own role
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:27 AM
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I would say women generally don't understand that men know pretty quickly if they want to marry or have a long term relationship with a woman. If a long time pass and there isn't a label or there isn't plans for the future, the man is stringing the woman along Men are taught from a young age to shut down their emotions. Romantism, emotional intimacy and vulnerability are foreign concepts from anothe dimension for a lot of us. So it's hard to expect a man being masculine + having a lot of emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:52 PM
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At the beginning, I thought women where asexual and their attraction to men was a gender role imposed by the society. But now I just think women aren't attracted until they can trust a man. If they can trust a man, this is where the feeling can start. This is what I understand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:41 PM
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Thank you so much for the advice. The world need more people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:49 PM
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Tbh I think the men envying women shouldn't. I think they would better envy gay men, since I heard the life of a gay man is really fulfilling about hookup and sex. I heard even an average or subpar man could find a sex buddy within a day. So they should envy gays
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:45 PM
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This is really wise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:37 PM
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You're right for a group of men but please not all men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:27 PM
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Tbh you can obtain a level of attractiveness if you invest enougth ressources in it. Stars for instance can look pretty and goergeous even when they get old (you can also see photo of them before and after) But it's true if you are born with an anomaly or get defigured by an horrible event, you're pretty much out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:23 PM
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Woa tbh I didn't something like that was real. I have heard it in a community for women once but I didn't thought it was that serious O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:18 PM
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No problem, thanks👍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:27 PM
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The first one is true. For the rest I have seen horror stories on internet about. But they where generally with men who weren't familly oriented by default (the "dusties")
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:10 AM
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Tbh, I didn't spend too much time with him. I just remembered he was neutral most of the time but really frightening for some periods. Sometimes he made me think I was intelligent and some other time he made me think I was a complet moron. I won't say he was absent but not too much present I just think I didn't have confidence most of my life, but I don't think that was the sole reason. But I also had the opportunity to define myself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:28 PM
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Thanks👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:13 PM
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Well I don't know where you found your stats, mate. Can you elaborate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:28 PM
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Even though I am also a self-improvement advocate, your claim insult it's value. Seeing self improvement as a way to get more date is like dating for the sole purpose of having sex or going to restaurant for the sole purpose of drinking water
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:49 PM
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A bit surprising but I have an hypothesis. The women in his surrounding maybe follow a competitive culture of who attract the most men have the most power. I have heard stories about women not interested to a man until he switch his attention to another woman. But those women generally invest enought until the man redirect his attention to her again (some ego boost). But this kind of environment is not that good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 02:36 PM
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Yeah you're right, there are plenty of place where dating apps are working
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:56 PM
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Thanks for your insight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:35 PM
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That's a bit out of topic, but I suggest you to find an healty dating apps or an alternative to dating apps. Dating apps aren't benevolant initiative made to build couples
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:24 PM
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Why do men cry about casual sex? Because some of us think with their dick. Or I could say they are directed by their dick. For most of them, the only kind of interaction a man and a woman can do is having sex Most of them go to dating apps looking for sex and they don't realize they are fighting for the minority of promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:22 PM
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Hi mate, I agree that men are in their right to no spend money before sex if they want. I just think you're deluded about some points Tbh I fear you only want to interact with women when sex is involved, like it's the only value you see about the other gender. With this mindset you won't even enjoy a single date since you're looking for sex Also not having option is not a death threat. Walking away is always an option. If you don't have matches, then move on. I am impressed by how many time peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:17 PM
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To be honest I remember seeing a lot of people (and myself included) consuming romance stories. That mean we unconsciousely crave it. When I entered a relationship my romantic comsuption clearly diminished near zero. I recently discovered it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:18 PM
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Yeah I remember this previous post! As you say, TRP "just lift" is about self improvement but I still think they lack self awareness about developping social skills and taping into the female gaze to be better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:15 PM
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Yep, dating apps are helds by commercials so this is it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:39 AM
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Tbh I don't know. Any vetting tentative will end up badly the moment I fall in love as a woman (I know a bit this is harder for women). I would do the same as what I do as a man: I will have my friends/family help in the vetting process
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:33 PM
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There is a point you're missing about warm approach that is a drastic difference with cold approach: you don't chase women that much. Warm approach is not patiently waiting for the woman you want to turn back and date you. You live your life, have fun and love will come organically Also your at the same time working on your social skills and letting time for women to like you. Your efforts are far more rewarded than in a cold approach. That's why a lot of BP are like the average man because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:21 PM
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Yep, wickedness has no face
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:12 PM
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Yeah, in general what people regret the most is what they didn't do (not what they did) so it's normal some women feel that way, it's liked to the FOMO but if it's trully not what they wanted there is no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:01 AM
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It's when there are too much activities. I want my children to practice music and sport but I don't want their week to be full of activity from monday till sundays. When I was young my parents did that and I had to find a balance to do what I really wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:30 PM
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Hi, in which case did you experience that ? This look quite specific (tbh I didn't experience something similar)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:36 AM
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Well, a woman's attraction is different than a man's attraction. Only focusing on physical attraction is like playing piano with one hand: you have to be really good to do something great Women also feel attraction abou your personnality. A lot of guy think by being a decent is enough, but it's not personality maxing. If you achieve emotional connection she will do the rest of falling in love by herself (of course you must be at least average looking)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:51 AM
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Yep, you can be VERY attractive if you target a specific type of woman and you your work. It can also increase greatly if you target one woman and take time to know her. It's hard to get a general attraction from women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:44 AM
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Thank you, there are a lot of men who don't understand the cost of taking care of a fragile human being. It's recommanded for couples to discuss thoses topics to establish a protocols to avoid things like weaponized incompetence or domestic gatekeeping/maternal gatekeeping
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:32 AM
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Yep, there are some unecessary load, but picking up or droping off kids or kids in activities are really necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:26 AM
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So you don't know the domestic gatekeeping/maternal gatekeeping phenomenon? This is a fairly well-known research topic among couples
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:22 AM
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EDIT: I forgot to mention this phenomenon has a name and is well studied. It's called domestic gatekeeping/maternal gatekeeping Yeah this is sometimes a self inflicted problem I have seen with women in relationship. Sometimes it's weaponized incompetence from the husband, sometimes it's the wife who unconsciousely punish the man if he don't do the house work HER WAY and end up alone taking all the responsibility resenting her husband I have a mother and a sister and I noticed we have our way of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:18 AM
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Well there is a lot of anime where women don't have a lot of personality and have a lot of physical attractiveness and IG models unatainable bodies for an average women. There are even harem where A LOT of those attractive girls are competing for the main character. If you look for the genre dedicated for the men, only a few tagged "romance" are really realist. You will also find that in medias directed to women. There are also a few gems
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:06 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:58 AM
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Thanks mate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:55 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:53 AM
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I am asking about your personal environment. But it's true it also not match the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:52 PM
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Thanks for your response. I have no certification in this field. That's why I want to know people's experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:49 PM
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Normally things goes that way but I wouldn't say the field is equal depending on where you go
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:47 PM
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Thanks for your response. Props to you for being a mentor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:42 PM
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Well you're speaking in monolithlang mate. There are men like that and there are women who won't settle too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:39 PM
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Thanks. Yeah I have heard about that in big cities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:52 PM
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Thanks mate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:05 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:04 PM
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Not "all". When men or women are talking about that it's rarelly "all" but only people they want or people from their surrounding
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:19 AM
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I see what you don't understand. One of the things I hate the most is a binary thinking without nuance. The key word is "it depend". The broad reality is that a lot of statements can only be applied partially. It depend of the demographic It's true that mathematically things should be right or wrong. But we knows that mathematics are an ideal world and can only be partially applyed to our world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:18 AM
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I agree. I am just telling you need to go beyond the basics of "women are this and that" and know "what like the women I like" and "what like the woman I want"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:10 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:08 AM
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No problem with that, I was talking about the fact only highly attractive men get sex which is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:59 AM
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Yep the problem with that is the cumulation of all those elements. When you want to get a woman, going with general ideas is shooting yourself in the foot. That's the same principle in business if you want to get a specific client
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:57 AM
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Women's nature. Saying that women will gravitate around the 5% men, women are sexual only with highly attractive men, women are gold diggers, women etc. Even though there are some truth those are overstatement that demonstrate a lack of understanding on how things really operated broadly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:32 AM
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Thanks mate. In a side note, I don't feel superior and I don't think that's the case for the rest of BP tbh. I would be rather admiring of this improvement mindset if RP didn't have those problematic ideas related with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:12 AM
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Thanks man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:07 AM
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Yes, it's not applied to know if a man is relationship material but it's used to describe how bad a man is IN an already established relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:39 AM
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I would say, men thinking women want as much sex than them and are surprised why their chance of success in hookups or short flings are very low with women I would also say women thinking that men also bond the same way as them through sex and time. So they are surprised when they fall in love through sex with a man who will never love her no matter the amount of time and sex given
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:52 PM
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Sure there are trully bad men but there are still good men for sure. I am not well versed about it but the tea app is mostly to prevent bad men right? If that's the case isn't it normal that there are more bad example in it. Do you have the stats that backup your claim by any chance? I think single hood can be one of the best solution for women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:08 PM
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For me pair bond exist. It's just that you can be attached to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:27 AM
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Thanks mate💯
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:36 AM
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But I have won in my standards though. Now I am happy in a fulfilling relationship. What do I miss ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:08 AM
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They don't like sharing, but they'll do it. Nice we agree. The dating market is miserable because people aren't honest about it. Well, I would say that people aren't informed about it (people don't learn it at school) and the knowledge about that is not accurate (or else there wouldn't be so many "school of thoughts) I'm not angry. I'm attractive, I have nothing to be mad about - the gane works in my favor. It's hard to not consider angry someone who treats others as "f-ing retards" 😅 It's not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:03 AM
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Hi there Women don't mind sharing the attractive men No, women don't like sharing. Sure they will compet for the same guy but they don't He doesn't have to decide shit. If the dating market gives him options, then he's free to exercice them. Well that's the reason the dating market is miserable. And people will be surprised if the state start putting rules to regulate this mess Women are f-ing retarded for men they're attracted to. So do men (OF, IG models, buying bath water or used tampons), bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:12 AM
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I like those initiatives since it help women avoid sharing the same man. It appear in the life of a man where a group of women is interested by him. That's where he must decide if he will commit to one and reject the others or if he will start playing I have to admit that women are really strong seeing how easely they can reject a man. In my case that was always hard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:13 AM
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Yep BP is vast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 08:00 AM
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Yeah it's wild in the black community. It's litteraly the reverse of what we see in the general dating realms. Women really struggle to find a man and drop their standards. At the same time we see a lot of men with a lot of questionable behaviours and who are worse than the common dude in a relationship perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:36 AM
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Yeah there are some hurt people, I wish I could help them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:38 PM
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Tbh I don't think polyandry is the answer for both gender since it doesn't really fit their biology For women it's like the hookup culture, only a few can be happy with only that since it doesn't fit their needs properly. So the polyandry will be a missfit since women can only invest romantically to one man at a time. Thus, even the women who will willingly try will end up using a man for romantic interest and exploit the rest for their resource (money, time, knowledge, etc.). Those men will fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:37 PM
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You're talking about a specific problem. Are you in a black community by any chance? I know the dating dynamic is quite different there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:27 PM
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I don't think it's a personality problem. Men and women connect differently. For instance women find men superficial because they are not able to connect deeply on an emotional level But also two men can be bored talking to each other as well as two women. Just find your person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:14 PM
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Unfortunately I am average😅 I just found a woman who loves me. We are still learning how to build a fruitfull relationship but we are doing the right work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:58 PM
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It's the same kind of priviledge than knowing a few tips to get a job: everyone can learn it. So there to stop the RP propaganda that has indeed a few good advice but a lot of toxicity that will just break a lot of young people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:24 PM
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Well tbh I was priviledged to not date through dating apps. So I think I got lucky in this place
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:40 PM
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That's one of the differences between men and women. I learned that love and lust are tightly connected for women. For a man, those things are independent. I would say it's better for a woman to be loved than to be lusted after. It's better to be wife material than f*ck material I remember hearing a crazy story of a man having 6 FWB; one for each day. They all know each other and are in competition. But later they learned there was a 7th woman who didn't knew them. The man was courting her and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:25 PM
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This mentality of replacing ones current partner is wild. But ineed there really are people who enter a relationship knowing clearly they won't stick with the person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:13 PM
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I am not rich and I am not white. So why I am bluepill then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:09 PM
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Well I am BP and I am not tall and not attractive. I guess I should have become a RP given your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:07 PM
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Good goal. BP is there to balance RP crap fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:59 PM
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I am sure you can find someone with the right method. Did you seek for help (match maker, dating coach, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:42 PM
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Yeah, what RP refute is the usefulness of being kind in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:53 PM
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I agree, falling in love is still possible but it's harder for a few reasons Yeah the proximity bias helped but the beauty standards is still there. A lot more young girls feel ugly and some people are unconsciousely comparing them with the most attractive ones there is Even though you can even rant friends online, this is hard to make true connexion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:12 PM
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Ouch that's not true. Online dating isn't adapted to how women fall in love. The standards skyrocketed because internet make visible IG model. So the most attractive person in your school/workplace is average for most. The abundance of option bring a paralysis of choice among women, and get men rejected without any chance In the past, going outside was the norm so most of people where organically social for a lot of things (not only dating). Nowadays, internet destroyed a lot of those for comfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:27 PM
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I think it's rather a problem of side effects. Each attributes have their own side effect that someone people forget to consider I know some men wanting a highly attractive woman as their partner but don't like when she attract attention from other men. Women like men with power but don't like the power inbalance in the couple. That can apply to each think you're looking for in a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:12 PM
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If I ever meet a woman like that I will just say "No thanks" and reject any of her advances. Stay away problematic people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:01 PM
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Wow, you're a real legend man. Respect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:17 PM
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Yeah I understand what you mean mate. But dating apps are not tailored to how women fall in love, reducing greatly their attraction. It's like a man being in a dating apps where all the women are fully veiled (even their faces) and the majority are golddiggers. You will only want to take the best of the best in case Your partner will be happy if you works on emotional intimacy and improve her romantic experience a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:16 PM
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Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:05 PM
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Still works though, BP is not mutually exclusive with self improvement. What BP hate the most are the people who fake their pwrsonnality to be something they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:05 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:51 PM
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Oh okay, must be hard
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:34 PM
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This is a good example, but tbh I tend to stop being friend with people who tend to choose things that are not into my belief. If she is a feminist but still choose a non-feminist man she either pretend or she is quite young in her belief and will also hit reality In my case I don't have true feminist in my circle but I know the women in it won't be with the kind of men the RP deem attractive in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:30 PM
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You're welcome mate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:16 PM
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Eh? I was single for a longer time but I have never met a woman being repulsed by that. But I now there is a lot who don't like that though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:15 PM
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Yep being yourself is also a moto of the BP narrative. It also contribute to your attractiveness btw ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:13 PM
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Why not a third way? Like I don't need validation from anyone? I am just jaded because of the RP narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:12 PM
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Interesting, I knew women where told how to be attractive at a young age but not to that level. Yeah we don't teach boy how to do so. So it can be normal that some believe "bad boys" are the winner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:25 PM
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I now the struggle men have. I have watched RP contents before saying "yeah it's true". But I had a second "realisation" and go back to BP again. A lot of RP content I see nowadays are more about bitterness and don't align with what I was looking for. Being BP was the thing that helped me find my actual partner. So I am some sort of BP aware
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:22 PM
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Here’s what ACTUAL brutally honest dating advice for women would look like: you’re probably not special, just because a man sleeps with you doesn’t mean he’d ever consider anything long term, you can’t fuck your way into a relationship, you’re probably shooting for men out of your league, you need to compromise on some of your standards, and you need to make yourself more inviting to men who approach you if you want guys to make the first move. Tbh there is a lot of content for women who says th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:57 AM
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Yeah, you're right. What I wrote is what I was thinking but this is a big overgeneralization that doesn't take into account the ones claiming that To say the truth, I believe that dating is harder for men. But my comment doesn't won't bring a positive outcome from those suffering Thanks for your comment. I will change that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:47 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:31 AM
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Interesting. I was also PP but since I tended to have more BP opinions, someone suggested me to switch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:28 AM
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Yep, I also think it will help a lot of people in the future be it men or women I think the men who use that as a threatening tool are bitter and want to find a "revenge" to hold women "accountable" as a "consequence" of their "delusional high standards". A way to "humble" them to make it short EDIT: that was an overstatement and an overgeneralization. I do think we shouldn't ignore the pain coming from those threats
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:26 AM
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Thanks. Well no I still need to check from myself what people are saying. Accepting what other think of you as a face value will lead to low self-estim
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:21 AM
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Yeah I did realize it as a BP and tried to understand the variety of experience in this sub. That was really cool. That's why I look more on the people themself than the stats to understand where they are coming from to counter my own survivor bias and the bias of others For instance, internet is a great example of reverse survivor bias . People rarelly post if everything is normal. That's why we see horror stories from men and women in the dating space. But I know in real life there are still f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:52 AM
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Common sense is about obvious things like "everyone sleep". Things that doesn't need real statistics to be proved but can be overlooked when influenced by a confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:39 AM
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Ah yes, there is also this habitude of jumping directly into conclusion some people have, but I generally see that from RP 😅 I should write a blog about that one day Common sense is used when it's obvious like my previous example. But in general, the comment tell me more about the person who is generally the key to fix the case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:36 AM
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Well it's more about introspection. Generally people don't realize their own pattern, me included For instance you asked a question about why BP don't show statistics and I explained that the root cause is about the usage of them I work in informatic and sometimes people come at me with a claim and some justification (like "my computer doesn't work" I will buy a new one") and I try to look at their justification (Just one component need to be fixed for the computer to work again) to solve the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:30 AM
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Yep it depend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:19 AM
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As I said in the previous comments: to help RP come out of their bias. It looks like you ignored this point. I fear you're in a confirmation bias😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:18 AM
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Yes, it's generally a confirmation bias that can be solve with a bit of maieutics since it's generally about common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:13 AM
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Oh dear, that's wrong. Let's try again
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:05 AM
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Yeah, it's just that we don't need to. I have noticed that the RP are here to "prove themself" and explain why this is different than the BP narrative. One can say that BP is the initial state for everyone and RP is a mutation. So BP will only refute to keep the status quo But in general we see people being illiterate in statistics, making over generalizations. I generally see something like. RP see that chicken is the most consumed animal and conclude that "humans are carnivores". Yep but it ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:03 AM
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Yeah, this is an octogon for extremists, a learning place for open minded people, and a circus for the rest😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:50 AM
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What makes you think that way ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:48 AM
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Yeah, this sub is really great for open minded people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:46 AM
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Yep it's like the annoying friend who sign you up for a thing you don't want to do. Dude leave me alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:39 AM
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I will be okay anyway. I was okay before entering a relationship so no prob
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:36 AM
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This is such a good post. It remind me of the consideration of women wearing pants today. They where excluded in the past for wearing those things but fought to have the right. The valuation society give it is interesting for both men and women Women wearing pants: - Women: normal/positive reaction - Men: normal/positive reaction Men wearing pants: - Women: normal/positive reaction - Men: normal/positive reaction Women wearing skirt: - Women: normal/positive reaction - Men: positive reaction Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:34 AM
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Yep everyone is accountable. I just think your exposing a monolith problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:15 AM
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Completly, I am a firm believer people should be treated right in ANY relationship. There is nothing good in having shitty friends or a shitty partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:13 AM
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Well since a lot of this is true for most men I could argue that's the same thing for work: no one really want to work. Does that mean we aren't doing that ? No. There is some men who do a great job as a partner and don't do what you're mentioning. In my case I was always looking for a LTR finding short ones "dirty". The woman I am with will be my only partner for the rest of my life and I am quite happy with it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:04 AM
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Interesting but I think it's the same for most redditors there. If some identities where revealed and there were some complainers, could we say they have no accountability ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:48 AM
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Yeah it's purple pill debate not purple pill grudge. There are some echo chambers for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:42 AM
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Wow it looks like a new case of monolith. You should date those who don't care that much😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:38 AM
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Wow, what make you think they consider you as a loser ? O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:31 AM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:28 AM
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There are other sub focused on comedy. Some of them are pretty funny too. But this one makes me concerned to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:27 AM
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It's great to do that, that bring balance and help having a open mind. According to your history, you're quite young. It help to know what teens are seeing this day
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:26 AM
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It looks like you hold some grudges😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:23 AM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:15 AM
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Ahh, okay😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:59 PM
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Great
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:59 PM
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Hahaha, that's the way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:08 PM
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That's a great mission
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:29 PM
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This is a nice background. With time I also felt a bit bad about the men who weren't BP. They are in environment where sex seem to be of high value and where BP seems really useless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:53 PM
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Same mate, thanks for doing the work👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:33 PM
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It looks like you love angry people 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:30 PM
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Wow that's a great testimony !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:40 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:37 PM
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Yeah there are really problematic people. Being uninformed is dangerous but being misinformed is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:35 PM
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Interesting X)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:45 PM
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Woa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:44 PM
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Interesting take. At large I think dating is complex since it can change from context to context and can even vary depending on the person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:43 PM
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You fought a fight that make a lot of people pround. The fact that you don't hold a single grudge show how strong you are. Respect
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:27 PM
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Really good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:43 PM
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That's great!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:42 PM
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Interesting stance
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:30 PM
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Ikr. Strangely that's really stimulating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:28 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Yeah following people could be a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:28 PM
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Okay, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:26 PM
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Yeah I sometimes have this kinds of conversation with my surrounding but here is the best place that doesn't feel like an "echo chamber"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:25 PM
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It's great
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:20 PM
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It's a good project
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:13 PM
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What are those first rules of fights club ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:09 PM
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No prob, that was insightful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:03 PM
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True story. PPD is not an echo chamber so it create a great place to exchange ideas and evolve
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:03 PM
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Yeah, I still hope that we avoid another mass shooting because Bryan is too busy debating his opinion in this community 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:01 PM
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This is an interesting background. That's the first time I hear the term "nichemax". What does that mean ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:59 PM
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Yes, this thought was lunar tbh 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:56 PM
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Yeah, there are a lot of men struggling with the actual dating space. There will always be profiteers who will capitalize on that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:55 PM
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I think you like ragebaiting women X)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:54 PM
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Interesting, what are the craziest things you have seen there ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:52 PM
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You're watching over us X)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:50 PM
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Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:50 PM
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Noice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:49 PM
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I am sorry if it's your experience. Yeah the world can be shitty, but things became a lot better when you don't take it personally
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:48 PM
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This is interesting. I think this sub and the world need more people like you. Do you share your sources ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:46 PM
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Yeah it's something complicated. There are rare cases of universal truth but a statement can be true or false given a specific time/place/environement/context. That's really interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:44 PM
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Good point. It's pretty hard to find the root of the evil since the problem looks systemic. But I trully believe places like this sub have a positive impact
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:41 PM
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Interesting back story. Yeah what's happening in US is wild. I hope it get better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:40 PM
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It has a lot of value indeed. I work on projects I post in other sub. I love challenging my pov X)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:38 PM
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Yeah it's fun to have a stance and defend it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:36 PM
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Lol that's a good point. Sometimes you can post something moderated and there will still be some wild redditors to jump you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:34 PM
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Yeaaah, I completly agree ! I f-ed up my algorithm in social media to have more varied content adressed to men and women. I did understood some of the differences (still discovering and learning) but that's actually worth it. My relationship with my partner is way better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:30 PM
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Did something happen in 2016 ? Congrats for your relation mate, I am happy for you !
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:26 PM
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This is an interesting pattern. I have always thought only people with a lot of bitterness com to the BlackP but since it gives good advice about lookmaxing it's now more obvious why men who want to improve their grooming could find this kind of content Do you think there is a sub-group of BlackP who just want to lookmax without embracing the whole ideology ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:24 PM
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Ah yes, I remember arguing with you the other day X) It makes me looks at RP a bit more to understand better its claim. A real interesting research. It's great if it helped you becoming chiller
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:20 PM
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Yeah, there is a lot of challenging thoughts here😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:17 PM
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Interesting, I didn't know. What are the drifts nowadays ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:16 PM
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Legit. I know there are a lot of sub where you can vent. But why PPD specifically ? Has this sub added value ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:13 PM
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Are you one of the people who are forging my patience😅😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:13 PM
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Good point, there are a lot of echo chamber from the RP movement. As a BP, I sometimes ask myself if I am not defending too much my stand. But the next post always remind me why that's not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:12 PM
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The triggered monkey brain is so real for me. I get caught each time So much so that I can't have a good day when I think that someone is wrong. It's better now that I'm at the end of therapy, but it was tough😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:08 PM
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Yes X) I was asking myself how you became a MOD. Isn't complicated to manage all this variety of ways of thinking ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:06 PM
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Yeah, sometimes it's not easy to formulate your thoughts in a way everyone understand. There is what you say, how you say it, how the other hear it and how they react. But yeah still surprised to see how some people think
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:04 PM
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Even though I also think sometimes, us BP can be strange. We don't have a hive mind. We just don't agree with the RP who can give toxic advice. The main differences/misuderstanding I have seen: RP is more for short term relationship and mainly about sex. It's one dimensional but it aim right. BP tap more into other aspect as a human being like connection The men who don't succeed generally date women the same way the would want to be dated, but it doesn't work that way. They will focus first of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:33 AM
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To be fair, good people are generally quiet and rarelly terminally online. The actual case also ignore the group of women who are toxic relationship partners. It's generally men who complain the most about the dating phase and women who complain the most about the relationship phase but we don't really have the echo of those with a healthy dating/relationship experience except those who want to show off for some ego boost
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:11 PM
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True story
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:26 PM
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Those are not the same women. Men, women and people in general aren't a monolith. You will find people with different taste and you will rarelly met a woman who has those contradictory beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:55 AM
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Yeah, people shouldn't be with a partner that think is way superior to them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:46 AM
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I have heard somewhere that the extremists created a pipeline from the male's frustration to gain power. I also think women should keep their autonomy since it's a systemic problem. I think men should just find something else to experience fulfillment. Also there are still a lot of women who want to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:03 AM
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Well I also have a "passion" and I have to admit it's so fulfilling that a relationship appear secondary. But I learned how to balance things because a passion can also destroy you. Everything is poison, it depends on the quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:57 AM
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I can understand why they are not mutually exclusive. One could argue a woman could pair bond at 100% with the first man, the 95% with the second man because she has some baggage from the first one etc. But this completly ignore the fact a human can also heal. And true story, the attraction of a woman DO change through time. It can go up or down
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:49 AM
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To be honest it's still make complete sense with RP, mate. A bunch of men in RP don't really want a relationship, just sex (it's just that a relationship is a good way to have regular sex supply). So the toxic guy who can still manage to access sex is still entertained by women. Some of those toxic attractive men even manage to secure a relationship for short term (it can even go for years) if the woman is inexperienced (we all start as inexperienced people). Why do you think the term "predator"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:27 AM
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I thought about it, but the story with the man vs bear did open my eyes. As well as one's life is too precious to risk losing it against a potential male threat, risking your relationship and the well being of your future potential children for a selfish reason isn't really good I have seen how my mood affected my partner. I worked on myself to understand my feelings and found a support from my brother and friends. If I don't feel well I just tell my partner I need time for myself and come back …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:16 AM
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Wow did she really kick him in the balls? For what reason ? Where they playing a game ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:50 PM
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Interesting approach but I will give you a male perspective. Wanting to fuck someone is different than wanting to marry them as well as wanting to eat in a restaurant than wanting to befriend the owner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:46 PM
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Interesting, yeah attractivity play a role but you can still increase your attractivity if you play it well It's the same as penis size. If it's big, you have to care less on how you manipulate it. If it's smaller, you have to be more precise to obtain the same amount of pleasure given to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:54 PM
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Tbh I don't think so. The things that help a couple being successful is when the man is not emotionally vulnerable. That doesn't mean he can't be vulnerable, but not in the same way her partner do Some men says they prefer women without make up but don't realize they are liking women who put natural makup. This is the same with some women who says they prefer when their man is vulnerable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:44 PM
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I completly agree, being open is not a binary thing. I still think it's not safe for a man to do that. You never know if the woman in front of you could handle it plus the fact that some men don't know how to open up correctly. Seeking a male counterpart or a professional like you said is the correct things to do to maintain a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:36 PM
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Yeah everyone has the right to have their fun. Tbh I don't like some comment who are there just to provoke you. This is when I take things to seriously and enter in a loop. I am not proud of it though😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:29 PM
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I completly agree. Women need to be protected and are not prepared/capable to handle a man's emotion. That's why men should have an emotional support system outside of their partner The trauma dumping or emotional labour is an example of why it shouldn't be that way. Of course a man should love his wife and be honest with her but should find true male friends for his darkest moments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:57 PM
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Yeah I hear you. Sometimes one argument could put me in a bad mood. That's insane. How are you feeling about this sub right now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:48 AM
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Well as it is said in the title, it's an hot take for the men struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:59 AM
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Congrats! I truly admire people who are able to overcome their hatred after being (unfairly) hurt. The true warrior is the one who has complete self-mastery
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:57 AM
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Good to seek independence but out of bitterness? Fortunately you will find most of your answer on internet if you want to learn anything related to daily task I think there is also other things you can find. I mostly learned how to code and cook on internet (there are also life hacks)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:53 AM
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Yeah, they are just bitter and I love arguing with them. Bit at the end of the day I think men and women need each other
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:29 AM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:18 AM
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Yeah like everyone? A lot a women prefer to be single rather than being with someone who don't add value to their life and I love that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:17 AM
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I am asking myself wich kind of place some men are visiting as a third place. If women move as a pack that litteraly scream "don't come near"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:14 AM
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Well I am trying to help. Sometimes people don't realize who they are and their life condition
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:10 AM
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Congrats! Yeah this sub can be toxic real fast depending with who you talk. It helped me managing my anger and work on my humility
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:57 AM
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There is a lot of value to have women around you, even if it's only your partner. But there are alternatives if you only want sex from women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:20 PM
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You,'re right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:27 PM
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Thank you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:07 PM
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I got hooked at the beginning but you lost me after some sentences. It's philosophical and poetic but if I understand correctly, individualism make you the target of anger because you like to fuck females ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:28 PM
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How is it in hell if it filter a good proportion of men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:53 PM
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Well no, it made me realize what women really care about. Of course this movement has a lot of toxicity but helped me to define what is a woman and what is a man outside of the social norm. Giving me the power to see what really worked about my education and my knowledge about women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:56 PM
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Yep💯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:53 PM
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Yep but I don't think it's about all women. Toxicity is gender neutral. But it's true they bring a lot in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:46 PM
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I will argue that women tend to be more conditionned into community and social support. I have myself to learn how thos social structures operates and I found it quite powerful. Why do you think there is a male loneliness epidemy ? Women can more easely tap into other social sources since they learned it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:45 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:43 PM
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Well it could be cool if it was not easy. Films and social medias and even Hollywood casts are full of attractive women according to the male gaze. There is even a debate in the video game world because some feminist agenda tried to have more representative women. Gamers where against since they want to look at "hot" women. Women know what a man find attractive. Why are feminist starting to dress in a atrange way. Because it's appealing to the female gaze. They still feel pretty without the male…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:41 PM
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I will argue that's again a male definition of confidence. Subtility and non-verbal messages is one way women communicate. Bragging obvioudely and verbally about your stuffs is seen as arrogant. But showing an unwavering calmness and control is the attractive "confidence". Generally the arrogant ones act out of insecurity, trying to compensate from what a "chad" have and they don't. That's also why the nonchalant ones gain attractivity toward women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:14 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:52 PM
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Yes they should
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:40 PM
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Thanks for your feedback. Since you're RP I understand your pov about my hot take. RP and BP are looking for different things in the dating space if I understand correctly The experience of a RP is interesting. So the bitterness come after. Did that happend to you ? As a BP I also think I could be biased coming from my mainly positive experiences after applying a BP mentality. Knowing how a woman feel, and also her real needs helped me entering relationships and having options more easely (I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:40 PM
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Well spontanuous just mean "I fell hungry" regardless of the place you are in. You will eat at your place if you so happen to be close by. So it's not always about the person. That's why men can cheat in a sexual aspect. It's more sincere since you feel it by yourself but more dehumanizing since you don't really care about the object of relief. Thats why some women wrongly claim that men can "fuck anything"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:20 PM
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I agree, that's why you should find women who will love your values. The ones who don't recognize it have in front of them a lot of men ready to sacrifice everything to be in their presence (an obvious exageration but you understand the concept)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:14 PM
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Tbh, every relationship is transactional, meaning there is an exchange of value on itself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:10 PM
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I my case I would want a soft woman who is more introvert than extrovert and who is kind to people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:45 PM
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Yeah, this post is one part of my message. In the other hand, I tell women to choose better. If men are better and women choose better, there wouldn't be that much problem. But it's obvious it come from a better world. The happily married people are a small subset of this ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:43 PM
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Men are simpler indeed but you should see the amount of effort a man has to put in dating apps or night clubs. I mean why a man should be rich, confident, attractive and has some charisma to be with girls who just put a few effort to "look good". In my community you have to put some work but you don't have to do that much to have options. Since the guy in my area stopped to use dating apps, going to some places and dated more organically, they found matches But I also know that RP men are genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:29 PM
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Ah, I see, you're in that kind of environment. You should find a place where women value your good points. It also works in work places. If you're not appreciated in a place, you should find another place where your value is recognized
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:20 PM
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Confidence, humor, kindness, grooming, aestetic, emotional/social intelligence, life style (yep even without money). But knowing women will greatly help
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:46 PM
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Yep those are included if you try to know women. But they don't play as much when you look for a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:44 PM
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Yeah there is this kind of women. If you find your place that's great. You can help other find their way. I just think it's something fulfilling in the long run but I might be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:42 PM
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Interesting question. I would say it depend. It's an arrangement between two people. They can choose a "traditional" way of living or choose another protocol. It's up to them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:40 PM
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I don't understand, can you elaborate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:38 PM
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Oh, you're right I didn't mention that sorry O_o About patriarchy what I mean is that women are more conditionned to know more about what men like than the other way around. That's why men tend to come with more sci-fi theories about women, but that's normal. That's why some women find hillarious that men fail in a society tailored for them without understanding they have the upper hand in term of knowledge. I had to look in women spaces to understand their view This is not enough to success in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:37 PM
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Yes I understand. But I think that's generally a good price to build a deep connexion and a family to contribute for the people of tomorrow. We don't complain about the cost of a car or the cost to find a job, I also think relationships need some investment. But if you only want sex from a woman there is other alternatives fortunately (Porn, OF, Escorts)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:27 PM
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Well that's an overstatement and a big generalization mate. I suggest you not telling it to the woman you're with😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:22 PM
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Tbh I have seen men who lack the basic stuffs😅 But I agree, effort is a big component
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:20 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:17 PM
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Yep cold approach is a bad strategy. That's why men should use warm approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:16 PM
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Yep there is also the young cool surfer who didn't put that kind of effort who get women you know ? You have more axes than money in general
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:15 PM
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There are a lot of things you can use outside of your money. But it's true it can be harder given your situation. I don't wish any men to end up with a gold digger
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:13 PM
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That's good, if you know how lesbians date you will understand what women really care about and why they can't feel attraction to it's fullest in male tailored spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:17 PM
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Well that sucks for you when you think all woman are like that. I also argue with women who think that all man are assholes. How would they thind the good men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:14 PM
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Thank for your reply. Now that I read your comment, I notice that you're right in your arguments. My choice of words is not always good. Yeah not putting dots at the end of my paragraphs is my style 😂 This is a really good point. I do agree that men blue pillers are generally more lucky but more in the sense they obtained "free education" about how to be social and treat women. Those skills can be obtained but social media is misleading both gender giving the wrong idea of what a man or a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:06 PM
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Thanks for your feedback! You're right, this is one thing about women: they don't approch. They give instead signs of interest. It's up to the man to come and talk to them. But you're right, there are a group of competitive men who can win by being a bit stuborn. But those advice don't apply to them since they will be kicked out after the woman realize her bad choice (although I tell them to choose better so both men and women can be happy together)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:05 PM
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If you present yourself as a feminist a lot of this annoying dudes would calm down since lot of them have a bad impression of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:03 AM
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Well, I have seen a lot of stories where the woman is the one providing for the couple. I also know some women who are okay to pay their part on a first date. I have even seen women who categorically don't want a man paying for their meal. Of course women can work and provide for themself, so they are looking for something else in men. The men who didn't updated their dating strategy will logically fail
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:00 AM
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As a man, I have seen this trend on internet but that's mostly click baits
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:31 AM
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I agree with most of the message but thinking men love more unconditionnally ??? How many women are invisible because they are ugly (you won't know because you don't notice them let alone talking to them) ? How many man leave their woman because she become old or fat ? There are still conditions for both gender. It's just people that people fall in love and think loving unconditionnally ignoring the conditions that made them fall in love At the end of the day, movies and Disney brought to both g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:23 AM
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It's true the bar is in hell for some women who allow abuser to enter a relationship. But good standards help finding a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:44 AM
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Oh, I undertand where the misunderstanding is. When I say "better", I mean better than "just being alive". There is quite a few things men don't do that could benefit them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:23 PM
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How the majority of men are better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:18 PM
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Yeah, if women choose better and men up their game, attractive abusive men will get kicked out really quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:17 PM
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... It's insane to blame women for not detecting bad men when you yourself can't come up with a list of redflags yourself. This. Some men out there are really imagining a sci-fi and taking it for the reality I still think women should choose better as well as men should become better. That would be the best outcome for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:01 PM
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Man, you're a hero, no a legend. Escorts are not that much different than golddigers. As you say, it's really transactional and they will really leave you if you don't have any money (that's really "beta bucks" as some people say) The point I don't agree with is this solution as an alternative. I trully think there are men who just need sex because they can feel fulfillment in other area. Perhaps a new way will open up like AI girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:23 PM
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I think a woman want to be emotionally and physically safe. That can be feeling safe to open up, being seen, not worry about different things in everyday's life and protected from physical threats (other people, seekness, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:43 PM
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Yeah I have seen this pattern, it's generally about a gap in the sex frequency between partners. But a man who say that is certainly trying do weaponize guilt and gaslight their partner (sign of a toxic relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:29 PM
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Interesting, those it mean it's some kind of revenge porn for women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:05 AM
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True story. But again, it's rare to see someone who get jadded by themself. Be it exs or incels
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:52 AM
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Have you ever been in a relationship before ? Or have you already ended a relationship ? Have you seen how a man and a woman experience differently a relationship ? This claim is insane to me. Could work for short term relationships (less than one month) but not for the rest of the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:30 AM
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"Your statistics about the tendency of human kind are wrong because I know one person who contradict those research"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:26 AM
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Yeah I have learned this difference between men and women. For a man, lust and romantic feelings are completly separated things (can be as disconnected as hunger and sadness). While for women romantic feelings are greatly corelated to sexual desir I am not saying it's right, but for most men, watching porn could be seen as eating to another restaurant from time to time instead of eating at home. This is this kind of "novelty". But a man should also take into account the feelings of the woman he …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:12 AM
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Yep, I have seen that women don't want to be approached romantically like that when they are not in their "right mind". The best you can do is to work on yourself. Women will throw you signs. You will just have to choose the one you feel the most compatibility with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:04 AM
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No, but I know some people will take you on that. Especially the terminally online dude whose only experience is through dating apps. I just read the comments and can confirm it happened
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:53 AM
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A part of me is telling myself that it would diversify the options men have (especially with sexbot in the future). But an other part of me think it will be only some virtual fulfillment and the loneliness will strike higher. I need to find some data about the escort market
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:50 AM
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Thanks for the insight, you added valuable informations. But one point you still ignore is the fact those posted men can be deemed "worthy" to start a relationship with. So a lot of men could argue they arleady belong to the minority of men selected. Especially if they where found in dating apps (where the selection bias is more distinct)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:45 AM
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Gossip or not, where there is smoke, there is fire. If you're clean, you won't be reported
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:36 PM
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It's to protect women, not to condemn men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:11 PM
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Tbh small talk isn't a good strategy tailored to catch women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:06 PM
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Knowing women better and date better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:40 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:39 PM
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Yep, I have to admit the men in this sub are a big issue and need to grow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:37 PM
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I need women and the women in my life need me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:16 PM
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I agree with the decentering and discipline parts. But men shouldn't go their separate way like that. Men and women need each other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:02 AM
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5-7 I don't think feminist have power in this area
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:56 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:28 PM
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