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That's my point. You' run, do yoga, and at least have recently tried to do a plank. That tells me ypu care about your fitness, so your body is probably fine. The moms that look bad are the ones thay act like gaining 80lbs is a normal part of being a mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:22 AM
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Both people in a relationship should be considerate of each other's needs, while also prioritizing their own. Relationships where one (or both) people feel like they're constantly sacrificing for the relationship usually end in bitterness and resentment. Marriedredpill is filled with men that had their relationships deteriorate because they just went with the flow and got hen-pecked into a dynamic no one was happy with, so they're trying to course correct. It's a bit like going to alcoholics-ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:47 PM
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Any woman concerned enough about her fitness and appearance to be worried about losing some muscle mass, definitely has a nice bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:45 PM
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I don't mind compromising if there's a bit of a mismatch, but it's annoying when women act like their standards are the only correct ones, and I'm either the lazy slob or controlling neat freak that needs to get in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:39 PM
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People, regardless of how neat they are, seem to think everyone messier than them is a pig, and everyone neater than them is an OCD freak. The range of cleanliness standards people have is mind-boggling. It can definitely be a problem for a couple if they aren't close enough to be able to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:04 PM
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Not discussing how finances and childcare is going to be split before having kids is certainly a big mistake. Anyone being super strict with how money or chores are split is probably a red flag, but if we're both working adults, it's reasonable that we both contribute financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:37 PM
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It's just unfashionable now. It doesn't have to make sense. They were much more common in the 90's and early 2000's
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:46 AM
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Everyone's reputation is fragile. People make snap decisions about who you are based on minimal evidence all the time. Whether or not you care about your reputation is another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:36 AM
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I just want to let you know that as a man, even if we're not interested, we appreciate being asked out. So few women do it, that it automatically makes you stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:26 AM
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Getting in decent shape. Faking being confident, until it came naturally to me. Talking to a lot of women. Learning how to spot where I didn't have a chance and quickly moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:41 AM
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Most of the spaces that produce "this is harmful" discourse are feminist and women dominated, so naturally they will be more understanding of media made for women. If you look at podcasters and youtubers that have predominantly male audiences, they openly mock feminist criticism of male-targeted media. It's strange to me how often some blog with barely any readers is seen as the mainstream opinion, while podcasts with hundreds of millions of listeners or the literal president of the United State…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:30 AM
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Who you're sexually attracted to can't be changed by therapy. Gay conversion-therapy has tried and failed to do that for many years. What can be helped is people self-sabotaging by putting up arbitrary standards, that are really there as an excuse to avoid putting themselves out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:36 AM
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How is the draft being male only equality? Genuinely wonder how this makes sense in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:07 AM
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Some don't want a family, but if they are willing and able to provide, why would they want a high-earning woman. They would rather go for a hotter/younger/more pleasant woman with less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:20 AM
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I would say the redpill guys that aren't bitter and don't hate women are more correct than bluepillers and bitter redpill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:40 PM
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Putting a similar amount of time and effort as me into tasks we both agree are important, and compromising where our priorities are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:52 PM
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Many women, especially perpetually single women, don't bring enough to the table. The women I seriously date, do. This isn't a contradiction, because I don't date most women. When I dated, I wanted a woman that was fun, affectionate, attractive, willing to pull her weight, and not drama prone. I was able to find a woman like that, so clearly some women do "bring it".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:52 PM
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Because you can't change who you're sexuslly attracted to, and dating someone you're not attracted to is a recipe for disaster. I'm not trying to convince women to date men they have no desire for either, but it is true that women only have desire for a minority of men. Rp says that women are attracted to a minority of men, because that's just the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:20 PM
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Of course they're women, but it seems like what you're really asking is if it's true that men treat women they're not sexually attracted to, like they aren't sexually attracted to them, which is obviously true. As with the men here that complain about being invisible to women, I don't have much sympathy unless you're a healthy BMI, lift weights, and dress in a way that compliments your body. Some people are born hot. Most of us have to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:40 AM
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Liberal arts degrees are basically already a free gf program unless you're autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:15 PM
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Probably for the reason I just mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:12 PM
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That's just something people say to justify not putting any effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:09 PM
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I've had exes that were regularly off on when their period would come by like 4 days. I can't imagine their ovulation days were super consistent either. If a guy jacks off and doesn't both pee and wash his dick before having sex, he can still get a woman pregnant from the sperm still in the chamber, so to speak. Seems like a lot of risk to not just wrap it up or use birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:23 PM
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If I've been with a woman for less than a year, I'm not thinking about marriage. That's pretty normal now, so I wouldn't feel the need to explicitly tell her this, unless she asked. Especially since the relationship might become more serious later. I have a good relationship with my parents, so I wouldn't think twice about introducing them to a girl I wasn't that serious with. And cooking for 2 is barely more work than cooking for 1, so cooking for each other is just economical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:44 AM
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The funniest is the discourse about how "empowering" it is when older women date young men, often citing the same reason older men get called creepy for, when they date younger women. At the end of the day "the debate" doesn't matter. If you can get the women you want to be into you too, go for it! If you can't, no amount of convincing bluepill redditors will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:27 PM
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This is true for smaller age gaps, but not the more extreme ones. A man in his 40's will have a much harder time getting women in their 20's, than in their 30's, no matter where he hangs out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:23 PM
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Everyone can. The way every man can become more attractive. Both often aren't easy, though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:42 PM
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It's an apt analogy: "Why do you need to see the paperwork? I didn't steal the car!" What's you're response to justify demanding to see the paperwork without accusing me of car theft?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:19 PM
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If you have a friend constantly being generous, doing favors for you, providing emotional support, etc. and you aren't giving about as much back to them, you are a bad friend and are using them. Even if there are no romantic feelings involved at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:17 PM
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If I buy a car and ask to see the paperwork before I hand over the money, should I be held legally accountable for not taking the seller's word that all the paperwork is in order?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:07 PM
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Why aren't people that are struggling financially happier about the fact that they can improve their careers to make more money? Many people lack the aptitude and/or drive to improve. Or even the awareness to know what they need to work on. The ones that have what it takes, just do it, and aren't the ones complaining, so you don't hear from them much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 11:01 PM
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Attraction is inherently discriminatory, and that's fine. It couldn't be any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:29 PM
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I'm saying it's a possibility. If I buy a house I want to see the title. I'm not accusing the seller of title fraud by wanting to see the title, but if the seller happens to be my wife I would understand her being a bit pissed about me asking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:57 AM
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A man asking for paternity test isn't claiming there is no way he could be the father. He knows where he nutted. He's demanding additional evidence. If the mother claims to be certain one man is the father when she knows there are multiple potential fathers, she is committing fraud. On personal level I would completely understand if a woman would want to seperate after, but legally demanding evidence of paternity and fraudulently lying about paternity are not similar and should not be treated as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:10 AM
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I think paternity fraud should be punished the same as other forms of fraud or perjury. Whatever I would get for forging a document to steal $100k from a someone, a woman that commits paternity fraud should also face. There is no fraud involved in voicing your suspicions about paternity so no similar legal consequences are needed. However any damage done to the relationship will be a natural consequence of accusing your partner of cheating and lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:29 PM
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Almost any women that want to get laid can do so. It makes sense they wouldn't complain about the absence of sex as much. But tiktok is filled with women complaining about not being able to get the types of guys they want to want commitment with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:47 AM
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I wouldn't care as long as it looked good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:16 AM
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Yes! What you're describing is just normal flirting. OP is probably autistic and gets frustrated by any subtlety in social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:21 PM
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If it's a type of guy they wouldn't usually go for unless he was rich, none. Passport broing in general is not very different from dating as a rich guy back home. If you're a mid looking rich guy dating a hot woman, she's probably a golddigger, regardless of nationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:26 PM
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By compensating in other areas. I specifically said it only applies to guys that are average or slightly below average. Average height dude in amazing shape and decent social skills will often do very well, especially with short girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:20 PM
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Most aren't destitute, but if they're going for a mid guy that is rich (by their standards) they are almost certainly gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:43 PM
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As I've mentioned on this sub before, I'm from a country that was a big passport bro destination and personally know women that dated passport bros. These women are the most promiscuous and gold digging girls I know. Probably the same types that are sugarbabies in the west. If you bring these girls back to your home country they will divorce you for a more attractive/richer guy as soon as they have citizenship. If you stay in her country you have to figure out how you will make money. Fully remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:53 PM
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Guys that talk about the red pill with women irl and use all the jargon are pretty cringy. I'm sure they get rejected for it, but they are also pretty rare. I don't hide my opinions around women, but I also don't present them in the most abrassive way possible. I have found that most women irl don't have a problem with most moderate red pill beliefs as long as you present them in a non-judgemental way and skip the cringy jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:21 PM
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I don't typically love women I barely know. If it's just a hookup, I'm not invested enough to love her. I would certainly be frustrated if my wife and I were only having mediocre sex once a month. If things didn't get better for a long time, I would even end the relatuonship, but I would still feel more love for her than some chick I hooked up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:03 PM
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I got "Stop crying, be a man!" As a 5 year old. It's a bit harsh, but society is going to be repulsed by them crying for the rest of their lives, so you have to teach boys to control their tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:21 PM
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It's definitely been what worked the best for me. But If you're not naturally social, you need friends that are better at it that you can learn from. I will often see groups of 3-4 guys at the club standing around or awkwardly trying to talk to women that are obviously not into them. A friend that isn't very good looking, but still pulls is worth his weight in gold so you can learn from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:44 PM
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Stats show that men and women now cheat at similar rates, so all the points about needing variety and losing attraction to their partner can equally apply to women. Women tend to have higher standards for housework and tend to do more of it, but men generally bring in more money. Co-habitting also makes both chores and finances easier, since the costs and the work doesn't double while the number of people contributing does, so even if things are a little unequal they are still usually easier tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:38 PM
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The real lesson was "watch what people do, not what they say" So in a roundabout way, you were being taught a valuable lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:27 PM
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Wouldn't even see her? I wish! She looks like she'd take up a lot of my field of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:08 AM
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The problem with shy guys is that they don't put themselves out there. Known serial killer is an extreme example, but a confident, outgoing, asshole will usually do better than a shy guy, because he probably talks to way more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:05 PM
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Unsurprisingly, being found sexually attractive correlates very strongly with actually having passionate sex, so the two go together in most men's minds. If there's lots of women finding you attractive, some of them will be eager to fuck. I know I would much rather hear "He's so hot, but he's a broke ass bum" than "He's so rich, but he's ugly and bad in bed"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:34 PM
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Couples don't move in together unless they're already having sex. She's not less at risk of an unexpected pregnancy if she has her own place. Living together saves a lot of money and is a good trial period to see how married life with that person might look likefor both the man and the woman. In my experience it's often the women that are eager to move in together and the men are reluctant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:24 PM
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My very straight, fuckboi friend has multiple expensive watches. I think it looks dumb too, but the hoes seem to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:22 AM
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Yes actually. I knew a few. They mostly see these guys as losers and marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:49 PM
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I wouldn't have left it for bumfuck Mississippi, that's for sure. Obviously people, on average, have higher standards of living in western countries, but it's not as great a difference as most Americans seem to think. Most women dating passport bro's aren't desperate, they just want a comfortable life without having to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:46 PM
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It's a spectrum. A little money and a little looks can compensate for some personality faults. But if you're an absolute pain to be around then you need a lot more to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:27 PM
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Because I'm from a country that was a big passport bro destination, and the vast majority of women there had no problem rejecting passport bros. In the places passport bros go almost everone has access to food, shelter, running water, electricity and even high speed internet and smartphones. I see so many Americans having this assumption that most people outside their borders are living in absolute hellholes. Not a lot of people in the world are dreaming of living like a lower class american in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:13 PM
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Would you feel similarly about a wealthy western man dating a woman that earns substantially less than him in his home country?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:26 PM
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I'm not a hard-core Redpiller, and I don't hate women, but I am red leaning, and offline I'm open about my world view. I found that since I'm not judgmental and avoid some of the cringier RP jargon, most average women are very receptive to it. If your definition of conservatism is believing that there are some innate gender differences and that men and women should be expected to behave differently in some situations, then almost all women I have met are "conservative" by your definition. Even m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:16 PM
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Passport broing is no different from dating as a rich guy in his home country. Sometimes there's a genuine connection, but usually, the money is is a big part of why she's with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:27 PM
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If they keep failing they will get the message soon enough. If they sometimes succeed, then they weren't as delusional as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:10 AM
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Good thing redpill isn't synonymous with MAGA, then. I don't have to defend anything American conservatives say or do to notice that there are certain traits and behaviours women tend to be drawn to, and working to embody some of these helps men date them. RP isn't a political ideology or even a philosophy. It's just a how-to guide for men to get better with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:29 PM
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Implying that women in foreign countries aren't consenting adults is ironically so much more racist and patronizing than passport bro's way of thinking. I'm from a country that was a big passport bro destination. Passport bros don't usually go to countries were people are truly desperate, because these cointries tend to be extremely dangerous and politically unstable. Generally, women dating passport bros is no different from gold digging lower class western women dating rich guys in their own c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:42 AM
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Well don't leave us hanging!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:30 PM
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If the point was that he can't get any woman. I don't think that was the intention, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:33 AM
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Maybe I just read it that way because I hate cowardly men. It's my most toxically masculine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:54 AM
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Right, but his first thought is of his own insecurities. Not him making the life of the girl he supposedly loves a living hell. I couldn't imagine my girlfriend feeling so bad she wants me to end her life, and my first thought being anything but compassion for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:44 AM
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"Is it so bad to be with me?" Fucking psychopathic I actually don't like that scene, because it takes away nuance from the character. It just shows him to be fully evil
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:37 AM
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I would agree with you if not for the scene where the real Nikki talks to him while wish Nikki is sleeping and begs him to kill her. His only response is "is it so bad to be with me?" That's fucking cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:35 AM
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Is Bear really that unattractive? The actor is a decent looking dude and the character's cute asian coworker (forgot her name) is obviously into him. He might have even had a shot with his crush Nikki, if he had the balls to actually flirt with her and asked her out. The real message, if there is one, is that being a coward doesn't make you a good person. Just because someone is socially anxious doesn't mean they actually care about other's feelings, they only care about how others might make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:29 AM
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Now make the same post, but about white racists that are more afraid of seeing a black teenager in their neighborhood than a bear. Don't these black people have any sympathy!? Contrary to how it may seem on reddit, most women aren't terrified of men. And I do have sympathy for women that are abused or have such bad anxiety that seeing a man walking down the street makes them frightened. Who I don't have sympathy for is the minority of women that spew hatred and make it seem like most men are som…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:03 PM
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All the things you listed were the product of earlier feminism and happened more than 50 years ago, at least in western countries. I agree that these are good things, but these fights are now generations in the past. Modern feminism is still fighting the same fight in an environment where women have about as many priveleges as men. Privilege is a zero sum game. If there are programs to make it easier for women to get accepted into university get grants, get certain jobs, etc, that makes it harde…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:45 PM
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She might not leave you, especially since you now have a child together, but it still harms the relationship. Being implicitly accused of cheating is hurtful. If you're that unsure of her loyalty, just get one without telling her, but, really, if you can't even trust your woman to not be fucking around when your relationship is supposed to be at it's strongest, then you probably shouldn't be having a child with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:10 PM
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Don't go overboard with it, but thick soled shoes with insoles is a easy 2" of height. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:16 AM
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Be careful of getting too influenced by these individual examples. There are billions of people out there and the algorithm will feed you a couple examples, presented in a certain light designed to bait your attention. It's no different from jaded women believing all men cheat because their algorithm deliberately feeds them examples of men cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:34 AM
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You say these things aren't the same as being dominant, then proceed to describe a textbook dominant personality. Being dominant is defined by being confident, assertive and naturally gravitating towards leadership in social interactions. I agree that it doesn't just mean being an asshole, but it also doesn't just refer to kink. You don't need a safe-word to have a healthy dominant personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:26 AM
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I don't know, you'll have to ask the men that struggle with women, but I imagine a simple "that sounds rough dude" would have sufficed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:14 PM
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"It's tough living with failing kidneys" "So what do you want!!!?" "Just some empathy I guess" "So you want me to be forced to give you a kidney?! That's vile!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:53 PM
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There's a lot of ugly dumb motherfuckers out there too. If anything, Ive noticed the opposite: ugly people tend to be dumber on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:44 PM
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No. If I was a woman it wouldn't be me. It would be a completely different person. Different brain, different hormones, different socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:58 PM
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No! Guys will truly miss the most obvious hints!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:59 PM
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They don't want to!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:35 PM
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Most women would prefer it if their husband looked like Henry Cavil or young Brad Pitt. Just because a man's wife isn't the absolute sexiest she has ever been doesn't mean he can't still be attracted to her. Women that stay reasonably fit are still reasonably attractive into their 50's. After that most couples don't have the libido to be going at it all the time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:34 PM
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Was out in a mixed gender group and one of the single women started to complain how frustrating it is that men don't approach as much anymore. All the other women were fully in agreement. If you trust reddit women, there's nothing women hate more than strange men trying to talk to them. Really goes to show how reddit people aren't representative of real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:19 PM
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Same breed and personality of my sister's dog. He is also a good boy!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:14 PM
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So men would rather move in with and marry women that aren't fat... Can't say it's a shocking revelation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:09 AM
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Kind of. Whenever I try to have any control the dream starts feeling foggy and less real, and sometimes I'll wake up entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:27 AM
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Right? If anything it is only evidence cold approaching still works. Guy got multiple dates and no real consequences. Didn't even get kicked out of the store
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:18 AM
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Sounds like nothing happened. 1/35 women complained and he didn't even get kicked out. Just told he might get kicked out if someone complained again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:15 AM
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Of course it hasn't. Caffeine is great!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:11 PM
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Stock trading is just Astrology for men. At least Astrology girls don't gamble their life savings because SpaceX is in retrograde.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:31 PM
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Women's tolerance for men being emotional is much lower than both men's and women's tolerance for women showing emotion. This also applies to what is considered "having a victim complex" vs just venting. Sure, most women would be understanding if their boyfriend cries over their childhood pet dying. But crying because you had a hard day at work and your boss was mean to you is something women can do, while men generally cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:17 PM
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It could have been worse. He could have said "who's that ugly bitch?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:34 PM
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Flat earthers are mostly just trolls having fun. Nerds getting baited, and thinking they come across as the smart ones is pretty hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:30 PM
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It's just sympathy farming. I garantee you she does some crazy shit too she "forgot" to mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:18 PM
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Immediately commit seppuku because I have been dishonored by a superior male. I carry my katana with me wherever I go just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:25 PM
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I've been invited to a client's wedding before. We weren't close at all, he was just a bit of a loner and needed to pad the guest list so it wasn't all her friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:22 PM
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The issue with wanting a "bangmaid" is that the term implies you don't care about the person or anything else about them other than their ability to clean and fuck. In my actual relationship I work longer hours, bring in more money, and my girl does most of the cooking and cleaning. Like most couples, we also have regular sex. But I don't think of her as a "bangmaid" and she doesn't see me as a "wallet" we enjoy spending time together and actually care about each other, the way I wouldn't care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:18 PM
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Speaking as someone with a decent amount of experience: Sex itself just feels pretty good. It isn't magical. But being desired by a woman you care about and desire is actually very special. That's why most men don't just hire prostitutes. You only get the sex, but none of the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:47 PM
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Men care about income, but they care about it a lot less than women. Obviously all things being equal, a woman with money is better, but men prioritize other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:00 AM
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Week long vacation with a male friend.... That's not your girlfriend, that's our girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:33 PM
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Obviously, having a small dick is generally an unattractive trait. The part where you're being in your head about is thinking it's a "death sentence" to be an inch below the average. By the time a girl sees your dick she's already into you. If you are good with hands and mouth you can still make her cum reliably. If you're an attractive man in other areas, it will be fine. But yes, people telling you it's doesn't matter at all are blowing smoke up your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:14 AM
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It's common, so I guess that makes it normal, but it's not good if you want to build and maintain a strong relationship with that person. You can be honest without being a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:03 AM
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Rental properties and index funds
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:34 PM
1

Not for many years, but I never felt older than I did in my early to mid 20's. Around the time I finished University, it really hit that I wasn't a kid anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:51 PM
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You have a "right" to want any arrangement you want. Whether you can find someone that would be willing to do that with you, and if that relationship will be healthy is another matter. Any woman that will be OK with you stepping out on her will be much more likely to only view you as a meal ticket, rather than genuinely love you. Jealousy is a natural human emotion, that doesn't go away because your husband is rich. She is also far more likely to cheat on you herself. Personally, I prefer being …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:48 PM
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As a fellow uncut guy, I am judging him. How do you have a part of your body you never clean and don't think that's unhygienic?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:19 PM
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There's something to be said about young women having an advantage in dating over young men, and older men having an advantage over older women. But, yes, obviously it's going to be easier to pick up college chicks when you're a student at their school, than when you're a 50 year old creepily hitting on them at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:11 PM
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Clearly you've never been in a dying relationship. It does somehow feel lonelier then being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:51 PM
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I've been with women that were very conventionally attractive, and ones that would probably be considered below average. The good looking ones were harder to get, but better girlfriends. They're less jaded, less insecure and genuinely want to be with their boyfriends, rather than settling because they can't do better. At least that's been my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:14 PM
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Women that go to the gym and stay fit stay attractive much longer. Probably late 40's/early 50's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:58 PM
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It feels too much like an interview question for a dare. My ideal first date is us vibing and having a fun conversation, during the course of which we organically learn about each other. If it's the one "interview question" in an otherwise fun conversation, I'll let it slide, but if the whole date feels like a job interview there won't be a second. I'd have an easy enough time answering it. I admire my mom. She's creative, supportive of the people in her life and ambitious in pursuing what's imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:09 AM
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Sure, if you're a desirable man you will find women of various ages that are into you, and can pick the ones you prefer. But usually, the men that have options when they're older also had options when they were young. The shy awkward, ugly young man growing into a 35 year old heart-throb is hardly the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:11 PM
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I don't have a problem with the specific arguments, even the ones I disagree with. But if it's constant complaining it gets old fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:47 PM
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Let's not oversell it. Bitching to your friends or boyfriend about how hard it is to be an upper middle class woman in a wealthy country isn't "fighting for your rights"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:52 PM
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This is also very true for women. Few things turn me off more than a woman that constantly complains about men, "the patriarchy", and "late stage capitalism".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:21 PM
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If women feel like you're groveling in front of them, they usually lose interest. Yes, high quality women too. You're not supposed to just be a total asshole to her, but you should frame the interaction so she's trying to impress you at least as much as you're trying to impress her. "Negging" should just be some gentle ribbing not straight up insulting her. You can also get a sense of what she's like and what her past is just by talking to her in a casual, non judgemental way. Redpill does not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:18 PM
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I'm considering ring shopping. Married PPD women: give me some tips!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:10 AM
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You're right, they'll tolerate him, but if a man is trying to date he needs to find women that will more than just tolerate his presence. If he's actually stupid that will probably be other stupid women, though often it's not even that he's stupid but that he just has a different worldview, in which case he needs to find a woman that shares that. Either way he needs to put himself out there to find the women that might be into him. I also agree that men should strive to become more competent, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:01 PM
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Obviously it's harder to date if you're retarded, but being confident is better for dating than being meek. It's not like women will start approaching the quiet stupid guy with no social awareness. These guys still have to make the first move and hopefully find a woman that doesn't care, or is as dumb as he is. People have pretty inflated egos. Most think they're the smart ones and everyone around them that thinks or acts differently is clueless, especially if they don't find that person attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:30 PM
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Maintaining a relationship isn't gaming on hard mode, but too many people assume they don't need to play at all and their relationship will magically stay strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:20 PM
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It's not just women. We certainly have plenty of examples of what some powerful men get up to when they think they won't be held accountable. Just look at the Epstein files. It's not all or even most people, but the uncomfortable reality is that a sizeable minority of men and women are only kept in check by the knowledge that that releasing their inner psycho will have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:09 PM
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Isn't that what everyone wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:30 AM
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If women want to be more successful with men, they also need to self improve. Getting fit does at least as much for women as men. Everyone can get more fit, more charismatic, and more rich than they currently are. You don't have to make any of these your goal, but dating is inherently discriminatory. People are just attracted to certain traits more than others. There's no way to change that without taking away people's free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:41 PM
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You don't have to do anything you don't want to. The advice is just for men that want to become more successful. Any "advice" that tells you you're fine continuing doing the things that already lead to you failing doesn't help you succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:32 PM
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Any advice given in a few sentences to someone you don't know personally is going to lack details and structure. Working on yourself is very good general advice. Exactly what that means depends on what you need to work on and who is giving the advice. Regarding your specific examples: It's fine to go to the gym to be more atttactive to the opposite sex. That's why most people do it. It's just taboo to openly admit it. Building up your social skills by meeting new people, including women is also …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:15 PM
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I wouldn't deliberately sabatoge my bro just so one of the 4 billion men I'm competing with has a little less game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:39 AM
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The people. That's what they're targeting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:30 PM
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Then definitely don't go gay
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:25 PM
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Find a fun, likeable, non manhating woman you enjoy spending time with. They aren't that rare, especially outside of online gender war spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:21 PM
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You can be both
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:11 PM
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I sometimes wonder if women assume doctors dismiss their pain because they're women when in reality a lot of doctors are just dismissive pricks that act like patients come to their office to complain for fun. I'm a man that suffers from severe migraines, and I can really relate to what you describe. It was surprisingly difficult to find a doctor that would work with me and help me find medication that helped reduce the frequency and severity of my migraines. If I were a woman I'd have probably a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:05 PM
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I'm not on a mission to punish single moms for being single moms. Some made bad choices, others were just unlucky, wither way that's not my business. I just have no desire to raise another man's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:34 PM
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I wouldn't be angry. I'm always thankful when women shownhow crazy they are on a first date instead of months in, that way I can bail without getting to invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:26 PM
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Probably about 80% A big part of that is working alone 60-70 hours per week
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:31 AM
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Men need to stop worrying about what strange women on the internet think about their personal lives. If you are attracted to younger women and they are attracted to you - great! Go date them! If you can't attract younger women then it doesn't matter if you're attracted to them or not. Either way why does it matter what strangers on the internet think of your love life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:19 AM
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Most people in relationships do have some love for each other, but even if they're just being pragmatic: blowing up a stable relationship you're mostly satisfied with to hookup with some ho/fuckboi is probably not the winning long term strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:20 PM
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To people in most of the world racking your AR because someone knocked on your door sounds about as crazy as "I heard my neighbour's car alarm go off so I hopped in my t-55 tank"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:09 PM
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Just casually grabbing an AR ypu happened to have, because you heard someone knock on your door. America is wild man...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:10 AM
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In my experience, confident women are even more attracted to confident men, so I don't think women are trying to compensate. Confidence is just a trait women naturally find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:31 AM
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I think my girl looks hot, so I also like seeing her in hot clothes. Seems natural. Enjoying imagining other guys jacking off to her is pretty weird though...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:26 AM
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Maybe. What kind of person are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:51 PM
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It's more that making new friends is the tutorial mission for getting a girlfriend. You don't need dozens of close friends, but being able to talk to new people and not coming across as boring or weird helps a lot in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:47 PM
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At random? Maybe 10-20%. A lot of women have boyfriends they're happy with. Some are lesbian. Some are not interested in dating. Some are wierded out by strangers talking to them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:05 PM
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Ukraine
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:20 AM
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No guy breaks up with a girl he adores and thinks is perfect for him. There is something in that relationship he doesn't like. He might downgrade because he can't find another relationship as good as he though he would, or he finds another relationship that has what he is looking for and doesn't feel it's a downgrade for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:43 AM
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I was born in a poor country. I just left
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:23 AM
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I'm not a father yet, but I want to be and am actively setting up my life to make that happen. I discussed kids with my girl early on and wouldn't have pursued a relationship with her if she didn't want kids. I never felt much external pressure to have kids. It's something I want. Of course there are risks and a loss of freedom, but there is nothing I can think to do with that freedom that is more worthwhile than literally creating life and raising the next generation of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:21 AM
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I'm concerned that your date gets checked for STDs at the vet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:46 PM
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Why wouldn't a guy stay in a hostel and make friends with some of the other young people there? I did just that when I was solo traveling in Europe in my 20's. Yes, casual sex is easier for women to find, but that's mostly because women are, on average, not as into it as men are. So the supply and demand is skewed. Men still get laid at hostels, but they have to be a bit more outgoing and less picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:15 PM
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Fair enough, but you also make it impossible to meet a genuine person that isn't lying to you or giving you a performance you paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:24 PM
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Because sex workers are known for being well adjusted and having the most honest positive views of their clients....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:02 PM
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Most men that present very feminine are gay. People assuming you're gay if you act gay isn't homophobic. Most women are attracted to more masculine presenting men, so as a straight femboy you will have a harder time finding a partner. That's not homophobic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:58 PM
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Emasculation ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:51 PM
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Your use of the word "harrass" isn't quite correct and is going to turn a lot of people off. You shouldn't be afraid to take up space, talk to women, and express your interest in them. If you do it respectfully and leave them alone if they seem disinterested, you aren't harassing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:11 AM
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As an Eastern European it was surprising how sensitive and quick to tears many adult American women are. EE girls are more likely to rip your head off than cry at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:44 PM
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I worked in both blue and white collar male dominated fields. Can't say I've ever seen crying or wall punching. Maybe your husband just works in a particularly hostile work environment. Shouting and walk outs did occasionally happen, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:41 PM
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The reddit app needs to stop asking me if I want to turn on notifications. I already declined like 20 times. I don't care that someone replied to a reply on my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:28 PM
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Europe is very big and diverse. The difference between 150 euros in rural Moldova vs London is the difference between 2 weeks living expenses and a meal with a few drinks at a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:17 PM
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It's the same as guys saying they don't like muscular women "because they're too masculine", but then will obsess over gym bunnies that squat almost double their body weight. They just mean they don't like roided out body builders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:32 PM
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I would like kids so that would be a deal breaker. Also, I don't date average looking chicks. The others aren't deal breakers, but it would really depend on what her personality is like and if we clicked. I'm not sure what personality an "average modern feminist" is supposed to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:09 PM
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I don't love "splashing cash on women" but I'm also not going to get all twisted up over paying for a dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:14 AM
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Reddit isn't representative. It leans much more introverted than the general popularion. Irl I've heard far more women lamenting that "men don't aproach anymore" than women complain that men approach too much. Just looked up studies on this, which are probably more representative than our individual experiences: 77% of single women reported wishing men approached them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:26 PM
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I wouldn't mind it, but it's not my main love language, so the effort would be somewhat wasted on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:55 PM
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The biggest thing that hurt cold approaching isn't women, it's smartphones. Before, if you were out of the house and had some downtime, you had nothing to do other than chat with strangers. If you're waiting for the bus, getting a coffee before work, waiting for class to start in college, etc, you were probably just staring into space, so you might as well talk to the person next to you, and sometimes you hit it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:50 PM
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Assuming I somehow still have my current brain, except I'm a woman and am attracted to men: I would make an effort to be hot, and would date whoever I'm atttacted too, find interesting and treats me well. I wouldn't care if other women found him atttactive, though they probably would since most people are attracted to similar things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:30 PM
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10 days is a bit extreme for me, but I will just disappear deep into the woods for a few days every few months to decompress. There's really something to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:56 AM
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Being happy and in love is right wing now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:26 PM
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Do you give off sensitive guy vibes? Were you talking a lot about wanting a relationship before you were already dating? In most cases I wouldn't explicitly ask for a hookup. Just have a fun "let's see where things go" attitude. Then you can both decide where you want to take it if you hit it off. Her bringing it up means she's probably fishing for you to contact her again. Give it a shot, but don't get too hung up on this girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:11 PM
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Not physically intervening in other people's business and calling the cops if needed is acceptable, but if a guy won't stand up for his girl or family I am comfortable calling him a coward. But I'm also not a feminist, so I don't have to juggle the internal contradiction of simultaneously saying all gender norms are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:02 PM
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The social skills needed to not embarrass her in front of her friends are quite low, and most men already meet it. Social skills are very important, but they are more important to attract a woman and help develop a connection with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:22 PM
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Self improvement isn't lies. You don't have to change everything about yourself, but clinging on to traits that are holding you back is a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:55 AM
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I don't question my girl about everything she's done before me either. I have high standards for what I want now. If I'm getting what I want I don't care that much about her past. If wasn't satisfied in bed it wouldn't matter if she was a virgin nun before she met me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:34 AM
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Sure, it's perfectly understandable to dump a woman that doesn't satisfy you sexually. Whatever being satisfied means to you. But what I don't understand is guys focusing so much on her past and not on what they actually want now. Is a firgid woman that gives you "dead fish" sex once a month OK if she treated all her exes the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:25 AM
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Red flags arent't always easy to spot, but they usually are. Many people either ignore them or don't know what to look for. When it comes to paternity tests: if you're planning to have a kid with a woman and you aren't even sure she's faithful to you, yes, you were probably ignoring some major red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:18 AM
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Older generations are. Gen z women are statistically slightly more likely to cheat than generation z men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:24 PM
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I would constantly have that experience when I was learning English. Like was I juat ignoring words I didn't know? How am I hearing it every day now that I know it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:19 PM
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It's a numbers game to a point. If you are always putting yourself out there and your success rate with the women you desire is greater than 0, you will eventually succeed. When I was single, something that worked for me was to approach women and talk to them with the assumption that they are into me and compatible with me. If the assumption was true it would help us hit it off. If it wasn't it would quickly become clear and I would move on. If some of these guys are very transphobic, or just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:01 AM
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I'm not that kinky, but I can see men that want specific kinks to be in a similar situation: he wouldn't want to be with a woman that doesn't share his kinks, so she might feel pressured into faking being into them, which is not the same as him pressuring her. If a guy doesn't want a specific sex act, he will not suddenly want to do it just because his girl did it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:25 PM
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I don't want women to force themselves into having sex with me. A big part of what turns me on is genuine passion and enthusiasm. But I find some women on this sub mistake feeling pressured with being pressured. If a woman isn't enthusiastic about having sex with me relatively early, I'm out. That's fine, we just weren't compatible. I would never pressure her. But many women realize men want that, so feel pressured to fake it. To be clear, I'm aware some guys just don't care, and do pressure wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:27 PM
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This is a good summary of why that kind of attitude rubs me the wrong way too. I don't consider myself particularly "nice", but I couldn't imagine wanting a woman I care about to force herself to do sex acts she dislikes with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:33 PM
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If it's like the Google images, the word "deformity" seems to be used very loosely. They just look like regular small, a bit saggy, tits. I'm not a huge boob guy anyway. If she has a pretty face, and a nice butt and legs I wouldn't care about the titties not being perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:08 PM
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Met my gf 3 years ago at a singles night at a bar. I noticed her as soon as I walked in. She was cornered in a conversation with a guy that obviously had no chance with her, so I just walked up, and introduced myself to them. We hit it off and the guy eventually got the hint and left. Her and I chatted for a few hours until closing time. I walked her to the train station and kissed her. Texted her the next day and set up a dinner/drinks date at a pub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:48 AM
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I haven't really seen many men adamant their wives don't work. It's usually the other way around: many women would rather not work, if their partner is bringing in enough money. If we're talking "traditional" then both the husband and wife, as well as their kids would work on the family farm. The dynamic of the husband employed outside the home and wife taking care od the hime was only common among middle & upper class families in a few wealthy countries for a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:24 AM
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Sounds like you just don't have good guy friends. It's not that rare to have friends that will be there for you if you're going through some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:57 PM
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The redpill grifter influencers are to rp what radfems that claim all heterosexual sex is rape are to feminism. They are definitely one part of their respective movements, but they aren't typical of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:43 PM
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I would argue it's not so much being unable to hide their red flags as it is not softening them with humor and charisma. These guys aren't just misogynistic, they also seem like a bad hang, which is the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:37 PM
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Do you go to the gym and eat healthy to stay fit and toned? Do you take care of your skin? Do you dress sexy? At least 80% of attractiveness is also just personality: having the character to take charge of your life and put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:48 PM
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True! Imagine telling on themselves this badly...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:38 PM
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Except that average heterosexual women desire sex with (some) men. Men in a strong passionate relationship with an average heterosexual woman often struggle to keep up with her libido. Male desire is just more consistent, while women have to be in the right emotional state, and with a man they are strongly attracted to for them to feel strong sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:25 PM
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If my people are content to die out, I won't fade away with them, I have to go and find new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:41 AM
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Not really. A lot of young, working age people left. Birth rates are catastrophically low. Unless they import people the standard of living will drop drastically, and it's already not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:29 AM
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With the war, emigration, and low birth rates Ukraine, and most of Eastern Europe, for that matter, is just fucked long term. It sucks, but there's no viable future for these countries to maintain their national identity, even if they stay independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:26 AM
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You're right that a long term relationship requires your partner to be happy in the relationship. That isn't incompatible with rp, though. My experience is women (and probably men) will nit pick specific issues when they aren't happy in the relationship in general. The goal is to generate attraction and overall relationship satisfaction rather than trying to solve all the specific issues your partner might have with you. Eg. If your woman is annoyed by the sound of you breathing (real example) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:32 AM
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Yes. When guys hit on their hotter friends in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:47 PM
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Sometimes, in the heat of the moment, it's forgivable to go ass to mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:21 PM
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If you pick up on the energy real women give off in real life and leave them alone if they seem uncomfortable, that's a good thing. If a few women online make you shut down and not initiate any interactions with women at all, that's being overly anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:01 PM
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That's fine. I just haven't met many women that wanted to wait for months. At least you're aware that most of your friends are different. Many women here act like almost all womne are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 03:54 PM
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Ya, people on this sub are kinda weird. I always see the women here talk about not wanting sex for months into a relationship and men saying they only want sex and put up with a relationship. Irl most men and women I know enjoy both sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:17 PM
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If the small chance of a false accusation makes you so terrified of women you don't interact with them at all, you are a very anxious person. Thats isn't a virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:08 PM
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I don't give a shit if other people think I'm having sex or not, so that doesn't factor into it. I couldn't have a relationship with someone that's not attracted to me, so option A. Regular sex with a hot woman is an added bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:38 AM
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Yay! Your grandkid gets to grow up without a dad....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:41 PM
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Why are the men that are so anxious and easily discouraged the "best men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:26 PM
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B Bro's before hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:18 PM
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Men and women aren't the same. Being sexually harassed by a hot teacher isn't going to have the same psychological impact on a boy as on a girl. It's still wildly inappropriate for a female teacher to do this, but it's not so scary regular people aren't comfortable joking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:38 AM
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Like to mommy their men or pull their weight financially? Plenty of couples make about the same. It's not that rare. Women that have a tendancy to micromanage their men usually grow tired of it, and dislike doing it in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:55 AM
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Graduating from a better school is a perfectly reasonable goal. I wouldn't call it shallow. Don't do it if you have to take on way more loans to do it, though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:50 AM
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All the classic Disney princesses except Belle were instantly attracted to a rich, handsome, masculine, Chad prince, while friend-zoning the poorer, less competent, less attractive supporting characters. Disney tried to tell you all along, but you weren't listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:11 AM
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Sounds fun until you get cte related dementia in your 60's
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:39 AM
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I definitely noticed my success rate go way up once I learned how to talk to women, so I must have "fumbled" a lot of the earlier interactions. The fact that they probably though I had no chance is just evidence of how badly I used to fumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:39 AM
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I'm not into butt sex, so easy choice for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:25 AM
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In my experience it's because they're also very toxic and mentally stable men won't tolerate their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:21 AM
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Kids should be the parent's top priority, but not the only priority. It's actually more childish and immature to assume that a couple can abandon all their individual passions, stop working on their relationship entirely and still expect their relationship to stay strong after kids. All the happily married parents I know make very deliberate efforts to set aside time away from the kids, both for dates, and solo hobbies. In the long run it's better for the kids too, because they grow up in a lovi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:24 PM
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Yes, my parents are still married. I always thought marriage and kids were an option for me if I wanted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:52 PM
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Its best for kids to havw both parents invopved in their lives, so 50/50. Also, I probably won't be able to manage raising a kid on my own and a demanding high paying job, so my income would likely slip if I tried doing it all on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:14 AM
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I wish I could see how the really struggling, but decent looking guys here talk to women irl. Like, how are you failing this badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:45 PM
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Most women just don't approach, and since plenty of men do, they never have to. If you don't approach women odds are you will stay single. Sure, don't keep trying to convince a woman that's ambivalent about you, but there's nothing wrong or submissive about talking to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:31 PM
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I don't know how people can live for decades in an unhappy, cold marriage. It sounds soulcrushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:42 AM
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He probably just stumbled into cheating a couple times and didn't have the spine to stand on his moral principles. Like you said, if he had a regular mistress he was sleeping with, why would he care his wife didn't put out for a few weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:16 AM
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Who says women are awful?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:11 AM
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The same reason he told you this instead of taking it to his grave: Because he's spineless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:58 AM
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It's possible, and some people are genuinely happy being single. A lot are just coping, and sexretly whish they could find love
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:49 AM
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In that case, congrats on the butt sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:42 AM
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Crucial context needed: did you hire this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:41 AM
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The women going for abusive monsters are usually also psychos. Unfortunately it means those kids get the double whammy of two shitty parents, buy I'm even less comfortable with the eugenisist notion of preventing "undesirable" people from reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:38 AM
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It's refreshing to see a woman admit this. Women hate to see men whine or "vent" the way women do. They just don't like it, and there is nothing to be gained from doing it other than annoying them and making them dryer than the Sahara.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:25 AM
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A lot of it is kinda common sense stuff, but the biggest one that is specifically RP and really helped me is the concept of "maintaining frame". Basically in most human interactions one person is setting the frame or tone, while the other operates in the frame that is set for them. Maintaining the frame helps steer the interaction where you want it, and it is itself attractive to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:15 AM
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I'm in a great long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:34 AM
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I'm saying she's clearly a "stacy"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:20 PM
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Very few women want to be dominant in bed. The men that actually want to be dominant and know how to do it well can usually find a woman to do thag with. The submissive men have to resort to paying for it, which is probably why you encountered so many of them as a sex worker. But I agree that many people wrongly assume being dominant just means "do whatever you want"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:34 PM
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Only a gay man would imply she doesn't look cute...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:27 PM
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You can call it "the little averagebear book" You should try applying some of these ideas...what's the worst that can happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:25 PM
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Clearly the "but ALAWAYS a man" bit at the end changes the whole meaning of the phrase. It acknowledges that it's not all men, but still justifies the prejudice against all men. Regardless, don't let misandrists pressure you into tolerating prejudice and feeling personally accountable for the actions of people you do not know. I don't involve myself with women that talk this way about men, and it makes my relationships with women that much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:15 PM
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RP is like plastic surgery in that you only notice it when it's botched. So women see the extreme, bitter, redpill guys fumble it and assume that's all rp is. Applying redpil-like stratagies dramatically improved my success with women. Both for generating initial attraction and maintaining long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:07 PM
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A real "house earthling"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:18 AM
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Ya dude, that's why you don't get involved with chicks at work. Be thankful it didn't go much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:59 AM
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Whether or not the standard is reasonable depends on if they're able to find someone that meets it. Same as with men that have high standards. I'm not going to be upset by someone having unreasonable standards. They're the ones that are going to end disappointed...or they will find someone that meets the standard, proving it wasn't that unreasonable. Either way, it's no skin off my back. Personally, I focus more on if a woman treats me the way I want to be treated, not how she would treat a hypo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:52 AM
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You're mom sounds like a cool chick!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:48 PM
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I don't know if I'm exceptionally attractive, but I'm social and do pretty well with women. I think my dad did a pretty good job raising 2 happy, successful, well adjusted sons, so I can take what I learned from him and build on it. I also have much younger siblings I helped raise, so I know the reality of raising kids first hand. The guys that are out there "spinning plates" are usually not the ones talking about fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:46 PM
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A monopoly would be if one company or individual controlled all the supply of pussy/dick. A minority of individuals being more competitive than the rest and being rewarded for it is the opposite of a monopoly. It's free market competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:38 PM
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Too many people that have their partner as their only friend. That's not healthy. Normalize having a circle of friends that share your interests. Going to events alone gets boring, but you can already do it. No one would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:31 PM
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I'm not going out looking for the probably severely mentally ill homeless man to beat up. Her even asking for this is a red flag. If she was in immediate danger, that would be a different story, and I would intervene, but going out looking for the guy is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:25 PM
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I want a woman that's enthusiastic about being with me. I'm not looking up photos of her past flings to see if any were better looking. If she seems really into me I don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:06 PM
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Except that I've personally seen it happen. Many women will occasionally have sex with a guy quickly if the spark is there. The spark being there is in large part determined by how physically attractive and charismatic the guy is. Most of those guys don't want a relationship with some average woman, so the guy she actually locks down will usually not be as physically atttactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:59 PM
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Of course many men care about relationships. Just look at all the rich/famous/handsome men that get married despite having easy access to casual sex. To me, a woman that is wife material is someone that brings joy and peace to my life. A woman I can trust to be loyal and have my back, that shares my values goals and worldview, that is good at communicating and conflict resolution, and of course, a woman I find physically atttactive. Why would a woman want to be wife material? Because she wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:14 PM
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I sorta agree with Ramsey here. They seem to not be on the same page about how to manage finances, and are already fighting about it. Resorting to an ultimatum like that is not a sign the relationship is strong. On the flip side, guys that make $250k are rare. She would be smart to pay off the loan, get married, and even if they get divorced she will be getting paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:45 AM
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The problem with "be yourself" is that people change over time, and you can work on yourself to grow in a certain direction. It isn't a bad thing to push yourself to become healthier, more successful, and, yes, more atttactive to your preferred sex. A better version of that advice is to not create a fake persona you can't grow into and sustain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:26 AM
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Except that the feminist men I know don't do any better with women than the men that are as attractive as them and aren't feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:39 PM
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Are you seriously asking why guys that can't get laid uglier and more boring than guys that can?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:04 AM
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I find the word "abuse" gets overused enough, but I would tell a bro to dump a woman that's being a pain in his ass. That's why good guy friends are so important for men. They will give you advice with your best interests as a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:59 AM
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Being in one happy relationship doesn't necessarily mean you have game, but having mostly bad experiences with women, means you definitely don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:49 AM
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Quetzalcoatlus northropi Yes, I'm aware it's a pterosaur and not a dinosaur.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:49 PM
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As a small business owner: it sure beats having a boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:48 PM
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I'll hold the door if they don't look like the type to steal packages, or if I've seen them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:28 PM
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Blue pill is just the absence of redpill, there's no bluepill community outside this sub to come up with the terms. There's definitely antagonism against rp here though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:31 PM
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90% of the reason I lift weights or dress well is women. It's just a few hours a week of my time, but there's a weird stigma, especially among women, about doing anything specifically to appeal to the opposite sex. What's it like? I guess having 3 hours less free time per week, so not that big a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:28 PM
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r/im14andthisisdeep
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:19 PM
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What's the "new gen" mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:09 PM
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Coal bbq?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:54 AM
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How exactly is the average western man "privelaged"? A lot of modern people are miserable despite having some of the most comfortable and pampered lives in history. That's certainly not limited to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:54 AM
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A lot of women get the "ick" from men asking to split the bill. Usually just going to a cheaper place is better than getting her to pay. If you're so broke it's a choice of canceling your $30 a month budget gym membership or buying girls 5 drinks at a dive bar, then yes, the gym will probably get better results, but you should really be looking at how to earn more money at that point anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:35 AM
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A lot of women expect the man to get himself and her off too. Sex isn't inherently penis oriented, but if you just lay back and let the person with the penis do all the work, it often will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:27 AM
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Men an women arent the same. Most men would love it if a strange woman came over to their apartment, fucked them, and never contacted them again. If you know some women well enough for them to confide in you, you would know that beneath the "Yaaas queen! I don't need no man!" Facade, many are deeply unhappy with their love life. It's not women's fault they aren't attracted to mediocre men and can't fully enjoy being pumped and dumped by the men they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:16 PM
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So I have to have a baby neither of us wants with a casual fling because the condom broke and all other birth control options are illegal, just to spite women? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:03 PM
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Applying redpil-like stratagies dramatically improved my success with women. RP is like plastic surgery in that you only notice it when it's botched.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:54 PM
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Many people want a serious relationship with someone they care about and are attracted to that feels the same about them. It's a natural human desire, that's not limited to one gender. I know some women irl that can't lock down the guys they like for the kind of commitment they want. They, understandably, aren't happy with that either. The social stigma of being single isn't that high anymore. There are plenty of men and women that are happy single, but they didn't want a relationship in the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:39 PM
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I have had my fair share. As well as several relationships Relationship with a good woman > casual
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:32 PM
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Doing decent means easily being able to get a relationship and occasionally something casual with looksmatched women. Game means being able to chat with women in a way that comes across as fun and not "boring" or "creepy". Hot guys get a pass for this behaviour. Average guys need to learn how to put a woman at ease and spark interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:03 PM
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You see sex with your husband as a service you need extra compensation for? How romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:56 PM
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In my teens and early 20's I came to basically the same conclusions as the red pill by observing the guys women went for and learning to get better with women myself. I didn't know what the red pill was. I find old-school redpill guys are usually more correct on dating dynamics so that's my flair on this sub. Redpill isn't a big part of my identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:45 PM
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That's absolutely not been my experience. Average looking guys that have game do decently. Ugly guys are just fucked, but they're a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:31 PM
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That's because you're European. Americans love their "high self-esteem", which can come across as delusion and arrogance to other cultures It was a bit of a culture shock for me too coming from Europe to Canada and the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:02 PM
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Bullies, on average, are more social and physically stronger, which is what lets them get away with being a bully. That's also probably what causes them to be more successful with women. If you try to be a bully as a nerdy loser, you'll just get your ass beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:46 PM
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This is exactly it. Usually there is a lot of overlap between the asocial guys and those that appear antisocial too. If you spend a lot of time chatting with people you will pick up on what comes off as fun joking around and what is just abrasive and negative. Unfortunately there are a lot of bitter redpill guys, but they would have been bitter without the redpill too. I like women, and I love my girl. The redpill framework helps me understand what makes women tick, that makes it easier to inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:38 PM
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Personally, I have never cheated on a woman, despite having easy opportunities. If I'm not satisfied I just leave Statistically it's about as common as women cheating at about 20%. Which is about in line with what I have observed irl. So, far from all, but enough to be a valid fear. Usually when men cheat the relationship is already on the rocks and the sex is very infrequent. To cheat "on and off" in an 8 year relationship and decide to have a baby with the woman during this time is diabolical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:26 AM
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These women you're talking about are either not straight or mostly asexual. I assure you straight women with a moderately high libido enjoy atttactive male bodies very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:06 PM
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Your dating market value is whatever you can get. I agree with that part. Women tend to be less interested in casual sex with strangers, so a man that wants it will have to be better looking or provide other compensation. That goes both ways, though. Becoming a parent is much more physically taxing on a woman, but there are roughly similar numbers of women wanting kids, so the market value of motherhood is about the same as fatherhood. There aren't large numbers of men that are able to attract w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:02 PM
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Damn, they have pussy on Uber eats now too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:14 PM
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If you're legitimately trying everything and failing, I feel for you. If you're complaining but you haven't done the work of getting jacked, getting a decent job and regularly going out and approaching women, that's just natural selection working as it's supposed to, and I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:10 PM
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Exhausted by women? When she's horny but doesn't like to be on top and I've been neglecting my cardio.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:24 PM
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Everyone keeps bringing up DiCaprio and his rotation of young women, but he's actually the outlier. Most celebrities get married or are in long term serious relationships while still in their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:55 AM
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I make art and sell it online. Can't be more specific than that as it might give up my identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:45 PM
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Me too bro, me too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:31 PM
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I run a successful business. I have 2 degrees, neither of which have anything to do with what I do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:15 AM
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12 is right around the age boys hit puberty and start vastly outperforming girls in athletics. I imagine the teacher just wanted to let you know this is normal and you don't just suck because you're no longer one of the fastest/strongest kids in class. You just have to only compare yourself to other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:59 AM
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If struggling men can't even get a single woman to change her behaviour and give them attention, they certainly can't have any effect on how all other men behave towards women. So the "men should do less" arguments are just pointless. Men are competing with other men that are successful with women. Women have already demonstrated that they chose these men over the peace of being single. It's valid to look at men that are more successful than you and ask what are they doing differently. Many men …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:49 AM
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There's an easy way to test this hypothesis: look what men with unlimited access to casual sex do. Celebrities and very handsome men don't need to partner up to get sex. They do engage in casual sex more, especially at first, but most still want to settle down in a relationship with one women eventually, because they catch romantic feelings too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:40 AM
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It's not immoral. Date and marry whichever consenting adults you want. Lower divorce rate doesn't necessarily mean better marriages, though. People in some countries are less likely to get divorced due to religious or cultural stigma, but that doesn't mean they're happy in their marriages. Many barely have sex or even talk to each other, they just won't get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:31 AM
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The argument that people are too poor for relationships falls apart, because people in poor countries get into relationships at similar or higher rates. Living with a roomate isn't any cheaper than living with a partner. Even poor people do some things for entertainment. You could do that as simple dates. The idea that you need a house and a family income of $200k to have kids is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:49 PM
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Sure, it's not 100% perfect, but it works most of the time. Whenever I see a couple in real life they are almost always within 2 points of attractiveness of each other. The only exceptions are if the man is rich or they've been together for decades and one of them aged worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:36 PM
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I'm building a secret cabin in the woods. I don't own the land, but it's such a remote spot I doubt anyone will ever find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:55 AM
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I didn't even know what redpill was when I was in my teens and early 20's. I just came to basically the same conclusions by observing the guys women went for and learning to get better with women myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:53 AM
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If you're highly desirable you can find a woman that doesn't expect you to fully adhere to gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:48 PM
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Even black bears usually don't run away. Most just mind their business. Kinda like men. On the other hand, I've seen women around bears, and they all go out of their way to avoid being anywhere near one. I guess "pick the bear" sound better when you aren't staring at 500 pounds of muscle teeth and claws.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:46 PM
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Desirable men have easy access to desirable women that will treat them well. Why would they go MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:41 PM
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Check your math. There's over 6 million reported car accidents in the US alone per year
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:50 AM
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Obviously rapists exist. Obviously there is a risk of being victimized by one. I don't understand your point here? If you go outside there is a risk that you get hit by a car. You should be cautious before stepping out on the road, but if you're on the sidewalk and are in constant fear that a car will swerve off the road and hit you, that's a problem you have to work through and isn't the problem of the drivers on the road next to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:21 AM
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Actually I would. If a strange man tried to talk to me I wouldn't have a problem exchanging a few words with him. If it was obvious he was hitting on me I would reject him and move on. I wouldn't fault the guy for shooting his shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:06 PM
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This is the type of guy calling you insecure on reddit, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:38 PM
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I don't think anyone is saying women shouldn't take basic precautions or be a little wary. The issue is when some women online try to justify their own extreme anxiety about men and expect everyone else to accommodate them because of it. If a woman is in a public place with lots of people around and she is terrified if a guy tries to talk to her, she's the problem, not that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:33 PM
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The problem with a lot of redpill influencers is that they have to say outlandish shit to generate views. Most redpill leaning guys (including myself) don't share Myron's more extreme views. In general, though, redpill is focused on helping men navigate the dating landscape as it is, not how we might wish the world to be. Most women are attracted to certain traits and behaviours in men. Cultivating these helps individual men be more successful with women. Guys that talk about what women should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:13 AM
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Most womne have responsive desire, but many will use that as an excuse for her just not being that into the guy or her having an abnormally low libido. If she's into him, a fun chat over a couple drinks, or a dance at the club, or her partner kissing her neck will be enough to trigger her desire response. If she's not attracted to him he will have to jump through a million hoops because "women have responsive desire"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:10 PM
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This is the classic Goomba fallacy. Some women want to get married are annoyed men drag their feet on it. different women don't want to get married or are disillusioned by their own faling marriage and complain that it benefits men only.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:04 PM
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It's because when men complain that they can't get women they are often told that it's probably because they're bad people with bad intelly views on women. But, as you said, full on abusers get in relationships all the time, so clearly women aren't all that great at judging men't character before getting involved with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:00 PM
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6 months as a 15 year old. 6 weeks as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:07 PM
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Ya, that's also been my experience. I started dating my girl when I was in my early 30's and she was in her early 20's. According to some people online that's "creepy" but IRL the only comments we got was that we look cute together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:20 PM
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That's part of it. But I also noticed that the biggest sluts I knew from school ended up having better luck locking down good men than the "good girls" It makes sense: sluts know how to appeal to men, and aren't afraid to put themselves out there. But not a lot of men will give women that advice, because they don't want their girl to have gotten good at manipulating men through experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:36 PM
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I don't really identify as redpill outside this sub. I do find that the more moderate redpill takes tend to be the most accurate when it comes to dating and gender dynamics (hence the flair). I don't agree with the more extreme redpill positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:30 PM
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I think hate often fuels each other. I do agree that a minority of extremely angry men make many women wary of all men, but men face a lot of casual misandry too. Usually less extreme, but more accepted in polite society. I can understand that some people will focus too much on negative outliers, but It's not my job to convince them that I'm one of the good ones. Personally, I just focus my efforts on the women that don't dislike men. They're not that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:47 PM
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Women's advice for men and men's advice for women often suffers from the same problem: it's how they wish the person they're already into would treat them, not what that person did to attract them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:30 PM
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I don't know of any men that would see a woman that had sex relatively early with a few guys, including him, as being not valuable for a relationship because of it. The complaints are usually about women that had sex relatively early with other guys, but not him, or women that are extremely promiscuous. There isn't a contradiction I see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:41 AM
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some guys fail because they lack the social skills to banter. Most guys have the ability to banter with a woman that is predisposed to find them interesting and fun because she's already attracted to them. If she's not into you, no amount of banter will solve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:23 AM
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But you do have autonomous freedom. You could end the relationship at any time. You could also not get into relationships with monogamous people in the first place. Slavery implies it's forced on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:54 PM
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Calling a voluntary agreement either person can end at any time "slavery" is a bit ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:47 PM
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Ya, I have that experience too. It would give me pause if she had a lot of causal experience but no relationship experience longer than a few months, because that would suggest to me that she has trouble committing. If she had a few hookups in between relationships that's fine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:38 PM
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Yes! People need to learn the importance of leaning into things with humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:34 PM
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If they're bending over backwards for a woman that isn't reciprocating than that's simping regardless of looks, but if you don't go overboard, there's nothing wrong with treating women you are interested in like you are actually interested in them. Why would I treat a woman I'm not interested in the same as one that I am?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:31 PM
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With both it depends on how much they misrepresent their feelings and how much they are trying to get. A man chatting to a woman he's interested because he wants to fuck her is not being dishonest. Neither is a woman accepting drinks from a guy she's interested in. A womam feigning interested to get things from a guy is being dishonest, like a guy that makes it seem he's looking for something serious when he just wants to smash and dash. Women exchanging sex for trips and more lavish gifts is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:27 PM
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What's the point of this? Like how would it help my partner that I also have to experience the pain of childbirth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:37 PM
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They reflect the real life of the subcultures they are in. It's not just a singular internet culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:53 PM
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At this point im my life? Probably. Especially if I get some child support too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:06 PM
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It's not hard to conceal, but some men still don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:45 PM
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I sleep in a big bed with my wife!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:34 AM
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I've caught some teeth before, but never full on biting. My condolences to your member
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:27 PM
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When I was picking up girls at bars I would go to a few a night. Come in, have 1 drink, if it didn't look like I had a shot, move on to the next one. Sometimes not even stop for the drink. If it was all dudes and couples in there I would do a 180 right at the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:13 PM
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Yep! It's all about results! Finding an easier way to succeed is a better life lesson than working hard for it's own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:44 PM
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While that is true, it also has nothing to do with the OP that dating is much easier in some places than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:26 PM
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If she's not genuinely into it. Those fake moans don't do anything for me. If she's really excited to do it with me we can figure it out. Even if she isn't "good at it" the enthusiasm more than makes up for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:20 PM
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Making jokes about committing suicide used to be considered one of the signs you were actually considering it. But gen z makes so many "maybe' I'll just kill myself" jokes that it's probably not a good indicator anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:27 PM
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Well you just said they probably have daddy issues and grew up with criminals. The average college girl going to parties and hooking up with guys didn't grow up around criminal and doesn't have daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:25 PM
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The main problem of low birthrates isn't having a small population, it's having an aging population. Modern people live longer, but they spend their last decades not working and requiring expensive medical interventions. The fewer younger people there are the harder it is for them to support their elders, and therefore the poorer everyone will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:20 PM
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Men need to start using the term "internalized misandry" more. No. Men need to reject feminism, not make their own copy of it. You can support equality without adopting sexist ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:12 PM
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You seem to have a very negative view if attractive, outgoing women that sleep witg men relatively early. In my experience these women aren't any more likely to prefer criminals. In fact it's usually the mid women that go after guys like that, because they can't get a guy with the looks and personality they want, so they settle for looks only.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:08 PM
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This has been my experience. I was always open to commitment, but not commitment with just anyone. Usually, If I was having sex with her, her looks wasnt the issue, but many women don't have what I would consider to be girlfriend worthy personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:56 PM
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Whatchu taking pictures of? Let me see!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:28 AM
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This isn't a new phenomenon. Single moms were getting married 25 years ago too. Its only a delusional requirement if you can't find someone to meet it. Some women (and men) cannot realistically find someone that meets all their requirements. These people need to adjust their requirements, work on themselves to be more attractive, or stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:20 PM
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Because guys see "atheist Buddhist leaning liberal hippie" and read "sex on the first date is a real possibility."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:00 PM
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Ya, that's kinda fucked up. I guess it really depends on the area you live in too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:57 PM
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Negative comments or just surprise? I'm in a mixed race relationship and I've seen people act surprised, but never got any negativity. I'm sure some people are secretly opposed, but they are pretty good at keeping that to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:38 PM
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Thankfully it seems that most people don't really care anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:31 PM
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To overthrow the government they would need to have the ability to persevere in the face of overwhelming odds, strength, courage and motivation. If they had all that women would have been interested in them and they would have just gotten laid instead tearing down society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:27 PM
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Counter point: I have never seen a couple where the guy is significantly less physically attactive than the girl unless he's rich. I would say having at least average social skills is extremely important, but an average guy with 10/10 social skills is still not pulling a 10/10 girl, while the 10/10 looking guy with average social skills absolutely will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:40 AM
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You are conflating what people say they think should happen with what they actually do. None of the studies you linked ask people what they actually do. A better question would be "have you ever had sex with a man within 30 days of the first date with him?" I bet the percent responding yes to that question would be way higher, and more relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:52 PM
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You weed out any woman that want you to sugarcoat things for her? Thats like 99%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:21 PM
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For a gay guy, you sure have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:26 AM
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The metric of what makes a "good" man or woman is subjective and very hard to measure. But what I have noticed is that there is no shortage of men and women unable to attract the partners they deem as "good" Rather than admit that the good men/women aren't interested in them personally, they rage about how rare they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:23 AM
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There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do someone you barely know a favor. I'm not arguing that OP should have helped her move. I can and do fault people for being too honest and direct. People like that can be difficult to interact with and often cross the line into just being abrasive. If that harms their relationships, that's their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:13 AM
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In reality people don't like hearing that you just don't like them or trust them enough to do them a favor. Saying he's busy is only a half lie. He will be doing something else that he finds more important than helping her move, even if that something isn't incredibly important. Little half lies like that help smooth human interactions. Being bluntly honest isn't always the best course of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:27 AM
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Exactly! If he felt this woman was asking him for a bit much, he could have just said he was busy that weekend, and it probably would have been fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:51 AM
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You can buy your own bougie apartment too! Thats what I have. I can remodel it how I like it and don't have to worry about a landlord kicking me out at the most inconvenient time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:44 AM
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People act like "boundary" is a magic word that should make others totally accepting of your behaviour. While it's actually just the same as saying "I don't want to do that for you" which people often aren't happy with hearing either. My experience with women has been that if she's into you she will be tolerant of you not wanting to do some things for her, which is all that boundaries are. Especially if you reject her softly and don't make a big deal out of it by calling it a "boundary"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:19 AM
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Wo are these men that don't know they want a bubbly, agreeable, affectionate, woman that respects them? We know we want that! Of course, just as with women, physical attraction comes first. Some men have so few options of women they are physically attracted to, that they're willing compromise on a lot of personality preferences, but that doesn't mean they don't still have those preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:28 PM
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Usually only on cheap budget airlines. It's more like you have the option to pay less if you don't have carryon. Yay capitalism!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:28 PM
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I agree, the advice would be better worded as "don't be afraid to push until you hit a boundary" Too many guys shoot themselves in the foot by worrying too much about potentially making a woman feel uncomfortable. But also, if it's obvious she is uncomfortable, you shouldn't continue pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:25 PM
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Never. If I couldn't get a real woman I'd just be single
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:01 AM
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Always left first. I don't shave my stache but when I trim my beard I do it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:19 PM
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There's a middle ground to be found. If she is demonstrating interest in you, reciprocating will help her feelings grow. But demonstrating that you are more into her than she is into you will make women lose respect, and eventually attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:15 PM
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Well she clearly stays hydrated. If her content is any indication
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:14 AM
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18 year old high school dropout waitress? Probably not. 27 year old part time school teacher? Very likely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:33 AM
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I would say try a bit of every approach and see what works for you. Including cold approach. There are women saying men approaching them is bothersome, but there are also plenty of women lamenting that "men don't approach anymore" you can't please everyone, so do what works for you. Personally, I've had some success with it. Just don't come on super strong right away, and move on if she doesn't seem interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:39 PM
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No close close male friends. No friends at all with people she had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:00 PM
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There's a big gap between being unemployed and being high earning. Most of these women still have an education and a career. It's just not a top 10% income earning career
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:45 PM
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While that is true, they often aren't high value in the same ways. I know a number of men that are in the top 10% income earners (including myself) Most of these men are in relationships, none with women that are also top 10% earners. They are still high value women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:49 PM
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I hadn't heard of it. Sounds terrible. I hope the Nigerian government can get things under control and bring the perpetrators to justice. I don't think I can add anything particularly insightful to this situation. It would be a waste of everyone's time if I spent my days looking up crimes from all over the world and publicly denouncing them. I would think the assumption is that I don't condone rape, even if I didn't mention a specific instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:17 AM
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Virtue signaling is moral grandstanding and constantly bringing up your "moral" beliefs.. especially when it's not paired with making any meaningful sacrifices for these causes. It's not limited to progressive beliefs: a Christian constantly bringing up what a good moral Christian they are and how sinful others are would also be virtue signaling. Of course, people can lie about their beliefs, but I think there is also something in the minds of people that do evil deeds where they feel they must …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:51 PM
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An acquaintance of mine recently got convicted for touching a 2 year old. That's the only predator I personally know. He was an outspoken feminist and LGBT rights activist. I would imagine people capable of being predators must also have some fucked up beliefs, but they often keep those hidden. I have noticed that people that go out of their way to virtue signal often turn out to be terrible, selfish people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:14 PM
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Does drinks mean neccessarily alchohol Yes, that's generally implied. Tea would fall under "let's go out for coffee"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:38 PM
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I specificly outlined how a man can gage if she's into it. Of course that would require social awareness and caring if she's uncomfortable in the first place, which some guys lack
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:31 PM
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Explicitly asking permission seems autistic. If the guy can read basic social cues, just start with something tame, then, if she seems into it, escalate. And definitely don't do it through the work messaging app or anywhere if she is clearly not into it. The real issue is creeps not caring if it makes you uncomfortable and some women laughing along with jokes she finds uncomfortable, which makes some guys assume she's into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:28 PM
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Tinder used to be more like grindr it was a hookup app. It's straight women that started treating it like hinge
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:46 AM
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That might be somewhat true in the US, but not most of the world. Most voters want freedom, safety and prosperity for their people. The disagreement is usually in how to get that outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:43 AM
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I'm slightly red or redish purple I find many bluepillers have a sense that dating and relationships should be fair, which they absolutely are not, and cannot ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:46 PM
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Shared values matter. That doesn't have to align with politics, though it often does. I have friends that have very different political views, but because we share similar values and have a mutual respect for each other, it's not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:33 PM
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Entitled women are entitled regardless of their political affiliations. There are plenty of entitled conservative women and also plenty of liberal women that love and respect their partner. You should date women that mostly align with your goals, world view and morals. You don't have to agree on everything, but it makes life easier if you're usually coming from the same place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:30 PM
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That's why I like to have sex before getting too emotionally invested into a relationship. If there's an incompatibility in the bedroom, no big deal, I can move on easily. In practice that means I dated women with a bit more experience, and that's fine by me, but experienced partners was not itself the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:03 PM
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As someone with a fair bit of experience: experience is overrated. It only really matters the first couple times you have sex. If she's horny, enthusiastic, and eager to make you feel good, she will pick it up quick. I don't need a woman to be doing handstand in the bedroom. The bigger issue is sexual compatibility. If a woman is still a virgin well into her 20's I would be wary of why she hasn't had sex with anyone yet. Is she asexual? Does she have religious views incompatible with my own? Doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:28 PM
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We advise men to be less vulnerable with women, because we have seen women react negatively to even a healthy amount of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:31 PM
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Shaming and insulting people just because you don't want to date them is stupid, but there's nothing bad or hypocritical about having a preference for a trait you yourself don't have. Presumably you will have other traits they want. I don't even care about virginity, but this notion that people must date gender swapped clones of themselves is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:19 PM
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That's very true. You should always keep your eyes open and refine your world view based on new evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:17 PM
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It's OK to only want a virgin, even if you aren't one. It's also OK for others to say they think that's a dumb standard to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:06 PM
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Just don't tell women you're a virgin. They almost never ask, so you wouldnt even be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:22 PM
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There's definitely some overlap, but nice generally means being more agreeable and conflict averse, while good is about doing what's right, even if it causes friction. For example, If someone says something a good person ethically disagrees with, they will call it out. A nice person would let it slide to avoid making the other person uncomfortable. Of course different people have different definitions in different contexts, which makes the whole discussion almost impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:20 PM
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Rare W for W.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:57 AM
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This is obviously untrue, because even one exception would disprove it. Some women are very deliberate in who they date. But, yes, for most women this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:55 AM
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It is though. Killing a bunch of civilians isn't going to replace the current regime with a more humane one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:42 AM
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I don't know anyone supporting the Iranian government, and I know a lot of liberals. Being against the war doesn't make someoene pro Islamic Republic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:37 AM
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This is how most men deal with this too. The "coercion" is usually just men choosing to leave a relationship where they feel deprioritized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:52 PM
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Kids should be the first priority, but not the only priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:41 PM
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Hating people just cause you don't want to date them was always stupid. But there are very real reasons to not want to date single moms, even if you like the woman and like kids. A child is a huge responsibility. A mom's kids will always take priority over her partner. If it's his kids too, that's fine, he will be doing the same, but helping raise someone else's kids is a burden that shouldn't be underestimated. A single parent will almost always have their baby daddy present in their life to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:59 PM
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You're trying to redefine what people mean when they say "your type" It's who you're most attracted to. Maturing is realizing you might have to compromise in some areas, but that doesn't change your type
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:49 PM
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On average, men are about as smart as women. Male and female manipulators tend to be pretty bad at it. Do some people still fall for it? Of course, but there were usually clear red flags they missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:25 PM
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Whether ot not it's cheating if you're up front about it is a semantics question. It depends on how you define cheating, and if deception is a part of the definition. Regardless, this is a terrible idea. I don't know why people keep these terrible relationships going instead of just getting divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:18 AM
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As a man, I didn't want the top 20% of women. If you factor in personality as well as looks, it was probably closer to top 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:58 PM
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If you're having less success than other men, the common denominator is you. Depending on what you're looking for it can be harder to get. Most men can't get regular casual sex with attractive women, for example. But most men are able to find a woman around their looksmatch for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:52 PM
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They aren't unreasonable. That's why I had them. The parts many here have taken issue with is dating younger women, filtering for sex relatively early, no history of anxiety or depression, not talking negatively about men as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:17 PM
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I agree that many "nice guys" mischaracterise not being assertive as "nice". Some of these guys aren't nice, they're spineless. But it is also true that being an especially nice or good man doesn't help much in dating. Most women don't want a guy that's a complete asshole, but most men already meet the standards for "goodness" required. Where many men fail is being too boring and too ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:59 PM
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No history of mental illness, even if it's currently under control. Especially BPD, Clinical depression or anxiety. has a positive, optimistic outlook on life someone I can have a relaxed fun conversation with that doesn't get awkward or feel like an interview has close relationships with some family members and friends she has maintained for many years doesn't speak negatively or dismissively of any group I am a part of (gender, ethnicity, career, etc.) I don't want to be "one of the good ones"…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:43 PM
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It lines up with my theory that good looking people usually have better personalities. They are just less jaded and bitter, because most people treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:40 AM
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Thats right! Men and women's bodies are different and that gives them different innate advantages and disadvantages in life. One of the disadvantages of being a man is fewer birth control options, so be careful where you nut!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:33 AM
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Women have different biology. One of the few perks of having a female reproductive system is it gives women another option for birth control that men don't have. The argument is that no one should be forced to go through forced pregnancy and childbirth. Men biologically don't have that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:06 PM
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They don't need to be ok with it. They just need to not have a viable alternative. It's not like these men are altruisticly working for the betterment of society. They're worker drones because they want to be able to afford shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:33 PM
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Oh I see, I missed the pun
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:25 PM
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If it's so disgusting, wash it!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:23 PM
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men do it on larger scale I think you're just more sensitive to it when men do it. For instance, many men filter for women that will have sex with them early, and there are almost daily posts here about how they are wrong for having this standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:12 PM
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If a highly desirable man is going for an average woman, he's probably looking for something casual. There are plenty of rich, tall, handsome, charismatic, kind men looking for monogamous relationships, but these men will quickly get paired up with highly desirable women. An average woman will never interact them romantically. Some men "in your league" will try to pump and dump too, or maybe the relationship will just natutally fizzle out in the early stages, but it's much less likely than if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:10 PM
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I've expressed my standards on here a few times and there was no shortage of women letting me know they thought I was wrong for having them. Nevermind that having standards led to me finding a great relationship. So it's definitely not exclusivity men that try to gatekeep standards. Some people just get buthurt over strangers having standards that exclude them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:01 PM
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New ick discovered, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:03 PM
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The thing these guys don't realise about being funny to women, is it's mostly just a symptom of her already being into you. I've had girls that were into me laugh at the dumbest jokes, and women that were not into me wouldn't even crack a smile for absolute gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:50 PM
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I date women, so my experience is dealing with "female nature". In my experience, if we had a good few dates and I felt we really connected, they were usually down to have sex. I even had experiences where I waited too long to initiate sex and she lost that initial interest. If your experience is different, that's fine. No need to insult me or my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:02 AM
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Well then apparently I always lived in areas with lots of "deviant populations" Are you in a larger city? Because I literally don't know anyone that waits until being exclusive to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:20 AM
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You have to be attracted to her. How "hot" she has to be will depend on your preferences. I would never be dealing with a crazy or disrespectful girlfriend. If she's acting like that she's already an ex-girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:03 AM
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I have been and am currently in love. But I haven't been already in love on a first date. That's where all the strategies come in. You don't want to overinvest and fall in love with someone that will not reciprocate your feelings. It's not hard rules anyway, just guidelines that helped me have more romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:59 AM
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I need both. She doesn't have to see me as the hottest guy on the planet, but she has to feel desire for me. Long term, burning desire with no emotional love or emotional love with no desire would be the death of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:53 PM
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Some people are just miserable, and can't stand it that others aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:49 PM
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Maybe my experience in big liberal cities is not the norm across the US population. For example, statistics also show that over 50% of white women voted for Trump, but I don't know any. I'm just speaking on my experience. I would also be cautious about trusting surveys where people express what they think should happen. It doesn't always align with what they do in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:34 PM
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men not understanding that they are having casual sex with women who won't commit to them Except they often do commit. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:29 PM
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The difference between casual and forming relationships isn't as clear as you would like it to be. My experience dating for a relationship in big cities in Europe Canada, and America has been that the process is usually: you go on a few dates. If you feel a spark you have sex. After a month or two of fucking and going on dates you talk about becoming exclusive. Being physically atttactive and not boring is critical to get that initial attraction, and many people significantly underestimate these…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:39 PM
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No, I like being a man and I like the life I built for myself. If I were born a woman I would be a completely different person with different hormones and different socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:26 PM
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If done well it's just fun, light hearted teasing, which often does work. But many men botch it and it comes across as just an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:27 PM
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Guy is talking about peaking in high school and missing that level of popularity and attention from women. What does that have to do with porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:06 PM
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The biggest sluts I knew from high school are all married. The modest "good girls" had mixed results getting commitment. Seems a lot of guys are going for the fun party girls for relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:45 PM
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So this is the same problem as women saying they want kind, loyal men that treat them well, but instead often going for fuckboi assholes. When asked about their ideal partner, people talk about how they wish the person they are already into would treat them, not what that person had to do to attract them in the first place. The fun outgoing party girl that dresses slutty and goes out every night will get men's attention. Most of those men will just want casual, but some will want something serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:33 PM
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Even women around my own looks level seem to have many guys trying to talk to them Keep in mind that height and lack of experience is a disadvantage for men and not women. If you're short and inexperienced you may be overestimating your looks level. You can work your way up with experience, fitness, career, but for now, aim lower. Try chatting up some ugly girls irl. They don't get approached as much so many of them will appreciate you more. Start a platonic convo, if it goes well, tell them you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:24 PM
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So this is the same problem as women saying they want kind, loyal men that treat them well, but instead often going for fuckboi assholes. When asked about their ideal partner, people talk about how they wish the person they are already into would treat them, not what that person had to do to attract them in the first place. The fun outgoing party girl that dresses sluttty and goes out every night will get men's attention. Most of those men will just want casual, but some will want something seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:17 PM
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First thing first - if you're driven and are willing to work at it, it's not all that hopeless. You're short and ugly, so you will have to work harder, but it's not impossible. Be very wary of online gurus: their money comes from struggling guys continuing to watch their content, not from helping these men become successful so they don't need advice anymore. You are already working on on your status: that's good. Ypu must also work on your looks. This is especially important for someone that's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:03 AM
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I just want something deep yet simple. Non-monogamy may not be for you, then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:34 PM
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With the exception of rich guys and gold diggers I have never seen the mythical ugly guy/hot girl pairing. But I see ugly guys with women all the time. It's just always ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:48 PM
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you can hear the gay so clearly I would imagine the man trying to hook up with another man wasn't expecting a straight guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:34 PM
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If she's sick that's different. I've cleaned up my girl's vomit before, I could clean her period blood too. Under normal circumstances, though, I stay away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:50 PM
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No one cares about it until there's a major war. I assure you Ukrainian men really care about it now. If a major war kicks off with China in the next few decades, gen Z American men will get drafted and die in large numbers too. That's not a trivial risk. Large scale wars happen once every few generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:45 PM
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My policy is that everyone should clean up their own bodily fluids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:38 PM
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All relationships get a little boring after a while. Ideally younhave enough loyalty and connection to keep it alive. If she has a history of jumping on another man't dick whenever she gets bored, that's a a recipe for disaster. If she could pull you for a relationship she can pull a guy at least as good as you for a casual fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:56 AM
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Being a jerk doesn't help, but being "nice" doesn't really help much either. You have to be attractive first and not boring second, everything else comes after. What does help is being assertive, and not getting overly invested early. None of these traits make you a jerk though. If your friend tried to chat up a dozen different girls, asking them out after the initial conversation, if it went well, he would have probably done better. Instead he was "in love" with a girl he barely knew and not ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:49 AM
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I have severe chronic migraines. It means I spend about 60 days a year mostly blind and in excruciating pain. The biggest inconvenience is that they come with no warning, so I can't drive or do any job or activity where there would be severe consequences of me becoming suddenly incapacitated. The biggest thing for me has been to structure my life so my disability doesn't affect me as much and to excel in other areas of life to compensate. I live downtown in a big city where not having a car is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:14 AM
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Back in my day we were in shape because we had to walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:33 PM
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Definitely the most likely scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:56 PM
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This is fair. Couples need to have discussions about their cleanliness standards and come up with compromises that they can then both work towards upholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:54 PM
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Yes, a big part of the redpill is accepting how female attraction works. Many so called redpill guys here are missing the whole point when they rant about how women should be attracted to mediocre men. Women are attracted to a smaller proportion of men. Their libido is also tied to their emotional state and menstrual cycle. However, whenever I see people claim that men need to accept women's libidos, they usually mean women aren't that into sex, which is definitely not true. For example, most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:46 PM
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The very act of vetting too early turns many people off. Not just the people you are trying to vet for. For example: I usually pay for dates, it's just not a big deal to me and most women seem to like it But if a woman said "I only date guys that pay for me" I wouldn't want to date her. It's not that she likes guys to pay for dates, it's the audacity of announcing it. It shows she either has an abrasive personality or some serious baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:30 PM
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Imagine being so paranoid of something so astronomically unlikely that you can't relax and enjoy your vacation...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:18 PM
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People do usually vet for the things that are important to them, but that takes time and emotional/financial investment. Being too upfront with everything you're vetting on isn't a perfect strategy. It comes across as abrasive and having way too much baggage. You will scare away many people you don't want to weed out, and many of the ones you do will just lie. People take a little time to let things unfold naturally, then get frustrated that they invested into someone they had to eventually weed…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:14 PM
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Sure, it can be any of these. When I was in highschool I first noticed some of my classmates were doing better with girls than others, so I analyzed what they were doing differently. I never heard of the redpill, but came to some similar conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:42 PM
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I'm in a great relationship and have other women in my life too. I find most women agree with core redpill talking points if you frame it neutrally and don't use the cringy RP jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:34 PM
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Who are those men? It's best to look to actual people you know in real life. If they are starting from a similar position to you and have the life you want, look at what they're doing differently. Most influencers are just grifters. RP influencers are no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:20 PM
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Lifts aren't socially acceptable only if you try to get ones that are so big it's noticeable you're wearing them. Even many regular shoes add over an inch on their own. Put in a sole that gives you another inch and no one will know the difference. You don't have to announce that's what you're doing. I meant average guys being able to get to be top 20%. Sure, if you're 5'7, have a weak jawline and can't grow a beard, you're at a disadvantage. But that's well below average to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:01 PM
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5'7 probably not. That is pretty short. But 5'9, which is average, absolutely can. Well groomed facial hair to hide the jaw line. Boots or lifts to get an extra couple inches of height to be able to convincingly claim to be 6'. Be fit, decent social skills and he's easily top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:52 PM
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Women aren't making you take a DNA test. It's about looking good, and how you look is effected by how you take care of your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:41 PM
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My reaction would be to nip this in the bud and have a convo with my mom early in the planning process instead of letting her sideline my wife and let things escalate until it's a huge issue the night before the baby shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:10 PM
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Except a woman like that is top 1% In shape, sexy, with curves - 20% of women Socially charming - 25% Good career and financially responsible enough to buy her own place - 20% .2 x .25 x .2 = .01 = 1% Assuming you don't care about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:39 PM
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The most useful advice comes from people of your own gender that aren't born with advantages you aren't born with, but still have the dating life you want. Women still date men that aren't in the top 20%, but it's much harder to get them to be strongly attracted. Getting in the top 20% isn't even that difficult. Most men are out of shape, can't dress, and have poor social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:50 PM
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Of the parents I've known, the mom was more restrictive in at least half of cases, so I can't say I've noticed this pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:27 PM
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My brother's gf pays for most of their dates. He's in college and she's a few years older working full time. He's 6'3 and really into fitness Don't know any other examples of this happening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:16 AM
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Right. And as a society we should be trying to keep these bad men under control. But as an individual, you have to be aware of the dangers around you and take reasonable precautions. I always look both ways before crossing the street, even if I have the green light, because bad drivers exist. I don't think this is too different from me being wary of floods or avalanches. For something to be analogous, it doesn't have to be identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:28 AM
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As a society, we can and shoudl talk about all factors factors that make floods more likely: global warming, surface runoff, etc. But if you are an individual living in a flood zone it is your responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Crime is analogous: we should have discussions on what we can do to reduce the overall crime rate, but as an individual it's your responsibility to take reasonable precautions. I shouldn't have to get out of a flood zone, humanity needs to fix global warming i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:08 AM
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Men do cold approach less now. If she isn't in school, doesn't go to bars or clubs, and is just average looking she might not get approached much. But if her friends are being approached in similar situations the real reason is always that she's not as pretty as them. Everything else is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:15 PM
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Sure! I call out the small minority of men justifying sexual assault. Can we stop comparing the rest of us to wild animals now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:14 PM
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Pause
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:11 PM
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The argument is that there is a small minority of men that are dangerous. Not that all or even most men would sexually assault a woman. It is the same argument people make about "green" people. Just because a small minority are criminals doesn't mean it's OK to discriminate against the whole group. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take some common sense precautions, though. The silliest thing about the man vs bear debate is that when faced with this dilemma in real life and not just as a hypothet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:36 PM
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A "redpill" influencer is full of shit. I don't believe it!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:53 AM
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Who says I care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:31 AM
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This seems to have a lot more to do more with your own gender dysphoria than anything men say. I can't imagine wanting to transition because some bitter, jaded women shit talk men, which happens a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:23 AM
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When I was single, I was looking for a good woman that was also eager to have sex with me relatively early. That doesn't make her a "hoe"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:17 AM
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Tax everyone so high they have to work so much they don't have time for a social life. Spend that money on overbudget government funded apps designed to help them socialize. ... ya that sounds like something ny country would try
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:42 PM
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Don't settle for less, king!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:38 PM
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When I was single I was looking for a woman that was financially independent, but her finances didn't have to be equal to mine. I make about 3x as much as my girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:37 PM
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Good to know. English is not my first language
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:36 PM
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Women that have sex for money are hoes. Lets call a spade a spade and a hoe a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:19 PM
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I literally just said you were an example of women doing things right in the comment you replied to...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:12 PM
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This comment is actually a great example of what lack of accountability looks like. So thanks for that. Asuming there is nothing you can do to effect your partner's behavior is a lack of accountability and will result in bad relationships for you. Of course some people just have a shittier base line for their behavior, and it's important to learn how to avoid people like that, but everyone has a range for how they act, and the people around them have an effect on that. Part of my own growth as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:09 PM
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Ok. So you didn't embody any of the bad behaviors, or lack of accountability in the example and got a (presumably) happy marriage out of it. Congratulations, I guess. That doesn't contradict anything this guy said, though. If anything, it's evidence in favour of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:03 PM
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Just like women, men are human and imperfect. I don't think men are generally better or worse than women. Though some individuals are much worse than others. But plenty of people are happily in relationships despite this. The people I know in bad relationships or perpetually, involuntarily single tend to have major negative traits that contribute to this. This doesn't necessarily make them bad people, just bad at relationships. If they don't recognize this and instead blame everyone else that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:25 PM
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Variety is fun, but most men don't need it. Most men can be happy with one good woman by their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:15 PM
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Accountability in the context of dating means realizing how your own actions impact your romantic relationships. It's the difference between saying "men are trash! They don't even do the bare minimum" and "what am I doing wrong that the men I end up with don't treat me the way I would like? How can I behave differently to attract the men I want and inspire them to treat me better?" Men aren't off the hook for this either. One issue I have with many redpill guys is that they also lack accountabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:11 PM
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The advice is: "do some activities that might not be your first pick, but you still have some interest in and may also help make you a more interesting, well rounded, social person."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:06 PM
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It depends on what you think you might find interesting. Some of the activities I personally did that I have bonded with women over: acting/theatre, skiing, rock climbing, weight lifting, travel, creating art (sculpture), reading fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:56 PM
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Don't get too hung up on that specific example. It's just the first thing that came to my mind for "generic hobby a guy might do to try and meet women"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:23 PM
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I never said hobbies are inherently social, but socializing is made easier if you have a shared interest or activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:40 PM
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God forbid you try something new once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:31 PM
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most women arent doing the same hobbies as men. That's the problem. You need at least a few interests that intersect. Trying a variety of hobbies that have a decent percentage of women helps you find one you actually like, and increases your odds of having a shared activity you can do with your girl. It doesn't need to be your primary interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:28 PM
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The ROI is high, but not immediate. You're right, a guy that already struggles with women, is unlikely to chat up a woman at the pottery class. However, talking to more people in platonic, low pressure settings will help improve your social skills. Many men underestimate social skills in dating. It's very important, especially if you're average and can't coast on your looks alone. Having more varied hobbies increases the odds that you will have something in common with almost any woman, that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:15 PM
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Sure some men overshare and some women don't pull their weight in the household, but it's much more common for women to overshare and it's not just "individual instances" almost every man that's been in relationships has had to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 PM
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Most women, and many men, are a little indecisive and don't have a strong opinion on most decisions. That's where the leader has to step up and make an executive decision. In my experience most women like it when men do this, as long as they are generally competent. Situations where one partner is adamant about doing something and the other is adamant about doing the opposite are rare, and require compromise on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:04 PM
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Sounds great, actually! I would quickly set up a lot of dates to see who I click with in person. It's basically what I already was doing as a guy, except I didn't have a list of a hundred women beating my door down wanting to go on a date with me, and had to work hard to find women interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:30 PM
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Not worth it dude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:24 AM
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Toned to fit. Athletic is ok, but not my exact type. Other ones don't do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:11 AM
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People only for free speech on their side is a real issue, but free speech itself is very important to maintain a free society, and we have seen erosion of it over the past decade
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:08 AM
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Well that's no fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:35 AM
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Why is it that whenever someone says "we had our ups and downs like any relationship" the "ups" is just a mundane, normal relationship, and the "downs" is some horrific shit like cheating or abuse? It's got to the point where if I hear someone use that phrase I just assume their relationship is a dumpster fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:32 AM
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Solid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:24 AM
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It ain't that deep. I did it because it worked often enough to be worth it. I'm not so insecure that it hurt my pride if a woman was taken, or I just wasn't her type. I'm not afraid of weird guys that would get aggressive just because I talked to a woman, and I certainly don't care if guys like that think I'm "cringe"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:20 AM
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Booooo! Have it with real gin!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:06 AM
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A lot of redpill advice is some variation of: "restructure your whole life, lie, cheat, and manipulate so you can fuck as many young women as possible" - the underlying assumption with this advice is that most men would be want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:07 PM
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The only part that doesn't make sense to me is him getting on the sex offender registry despite being acquitted of the criminal charges. Lying about getting a vasectomy and nutting inside a woman, effectively forcing her have an unwanted pregnancy is psychopathic. Your coworker seems nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:48 PM
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Personally, I resent the common redpill assumption that men have no moral principles or passions outside of fucking as many young women as possible. It's not all of the redpill, but it's very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:32 PM
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Trying to ingraciate yourself to any group hostile and discriminatory to people that look like you is always a losing battle. Whether you're a male feminist or a black right-winger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:46 AM
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Thankfully, no. Otherwise I'd have had a real hard time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:42 AM
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If it's only for a year - ONS on tap If it's the first year of a serious potentially long lasting relationship - gf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 10:32 PM
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Plenty of women seem to think it's worth it as evidenced by them trying to get in relationships, and staying in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 06:22 PM
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Speak for yourself. If you can only find women who's company you don't enjoy and that give little back, then that's your problem. Not all men's I love being in a relationship with my girl, it's fun and rewarding. I know many men that also don't lowkey hate their girlfriend/wife like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 06:20 PM
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You're comparing a chill drama free FWB to a relationship where you have "boyfriend responsibilities" and not getting much in return. Of course FWB would be better than a relationship like that. Plenty of women pull their weight in relationships and plenty of couples actually enjoy being around each other outside of sex too. The benefits of a good relationship far outweigh the extra responsibilities you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 06:14 PM
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The market doesn't exist, because there are way more guys that are into casual. An undesirable woman can easily get an average guy to bang her for free. An undesirable or even average guy cannot do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:12 PM
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There's a difference between "I wouldn't want to date someone that doesn't want to do X" and "you have to do X whether you like it or not". I would argue most men are the first one. They're trying to filter out incompatible women, not pressure these women into pretending they're compatible. Now, whether or not filtering out all women that don't want sex on the first date is an effective strategy is a different question entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:06 PM
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Have you experienced many men pushing it as a demand or ultimatum? Or just initiating and then later losing interest after you didn't reciprocate? It reminds me of a video I saw of a MAGA guy saying he felt pressured to pretend he was more liberal than he really was around women. But I'm sure those liberal women didn't want him to pretend. They just wouldn't be interested in him if he wasn't genuinely liberal. That's how many guys feel about initial attraction and being comfortable with sex earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:34 PM
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If you're that jaded, definitely try it. Women are just people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:15 PM
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People have different time lines for sex in a relationship and that's OK. But I get navigating that is hard. I don't think many guys in real life are actively thinking "if you say no we are through" but initiating sex is a vulnerable position for a guy too. If you get shut down the first time you try it, it can kill the whole vibe, but if you take too long to escalate it can make her lose that initial spark. And there absolutely are women just looking for attention and entertainment instead of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:08 PM
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What's "way to fast" for you? How many dates in would you have accepted him turning things sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:10 PM
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Over for firstborncels! But seriously, I'm curious. Why no first borns?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:39 AM
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My girl meets all these requirements too. Except maybe half marks on the financial responsibility one :) Women like her are rare, but they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:35 AM
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This is a great list! I just went down it and my girlfriend meets all these. She's definitely a keeper!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:27 AM
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What were rhe things that didn't work at first? What were you selecting for after you changed course?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:12 AM
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Wartime has upwards of millions of men with guns and often nonrulenof law. Even a tiny percentage of them being rapists would be a huge problem. For example in ww2 red army soldiers weren't really restrained from terrorising the civilian German population. It is estimated that red army soldiers raped about 2 million German women. That's awful but the red army was about 12 million strong and they were fighting in Germany for months with the rapists among them likely raping multiple women each. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:40 PM
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Nick Fuentes is so deep in the closet he's sucking dick in Narnia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:52 PM
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Are we really going to pretend Stalin wouldn't have used nukes in ww2 if he had them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:47 PM
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Shitty men cover for each other all the time. Good men don't. Both types of men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:29 PM
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I know I wouldn't do thes things. I know I wouldn't tolerate it if I found out my friends did them. If most men were like this, wouldn't we be open with each other about it? Piece of shit men obviously exist, but most men don't like them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:13 PM
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No! He must be out cheating on you because you won't have sex with him because you only married him for his money - miserable people on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:07 PM
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I thought that was implied, but let me spell it out: No, I don't think most men would murder rape or cheat. I do think little lies and petty theft, especially from corporations would be more common if people could get away with it more. Lots of people already take the "self-checkout by one get one free discount" I don't think men would do it more than women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:00 PM
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You think most men would rape, murder and cheat if they could get away with it? Honestly? I think you have wildly negative views of men and life in general that prevents you from finding love and happiness in your life. A good therapist may actually help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:53 PM
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If you can't find love, don't make it seem like it's all men's fault. Maybe you just don't have the personality traits good loving men are looking for and need to work on yourself? Plenty of women are very happy in their relationships. Including on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:29 PM
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If you're getting in heated arguments often enough that multiple people are telling you it's inappropriate and low class it's definitely a you problem. Calm the fuck down, and learn how to have a disagreement like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:17 PM
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Didn't you say you lived in Chicago? Did you go back to fight or just making shit up on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:30 PM
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I bet she gives people dating advice on PPD like "just be normal, incel!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:15 PM
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And over 50% of white women, let's not forget. Is a bit odd that y'all have a functioning democracy and still voted for this clown, but whatever. They may not be orange, but rapist murderer tyrants rule most countries outside of Europe and North America, and a good chunk of the ones there too. The US isn't unique for having a shitty president.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:47 PM
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I gotta say, people living in first world countries constantly complaining about how it's supposedly so impossibly hard to make ends meet "in this economy" feels pretty lazy and entitled to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:13 PM
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It's not easy, but it's the only solution. Look at what other people with your innate traits are doing to get laid. Plenty of mid guys are fucking. Y'all should emulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:51 PM
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Online men are irrelevant Then you should probably stick to women only subs. Men (and women) are going to keep expressing their preferences and opinions on subs where people discuss dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:20 AM
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I've expressed a few of the things I vetted for when dating, and plenty of women here were quick to let me know they thought I was wrong for it. Nevermind that my standards resulted in a great relationship for me. Maybe you just notice it more when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:49 AM
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Ma'am this is a debate sub about dating dynamics. People express their opinions on these topics here. Yes, of course you can do what you want. You can pick the bear or whatever else. And people can tell you if they think your choices are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:38 AM
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MAGA went from "drain the swamp, expose all the pedophiles in government" to "...well those 14 year olds were more underage women than kids, and is a little sex trafficking of minors between friends so bad anyway?" But have you heard the Dow is OVER 9000!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:36 AM
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20 year old me would have went for it. 30 year old me knew not to stick my dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:20 AM
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They should be treated as any other medical issue. If it's severe enough that it's a legitimate medical issue like endometriosis it should qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 01:15 AM
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I would say it makes you seem more pretentious than smart. But it is actually a really good book
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:22 PM
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Does anyone say that? I've heard of the 3 date rule, but first date or nothing feels like a strawman. Dating in big cities in Europe and North America my experience was that if things hadn't progressed to sex within 3-5 dates the spark just wasn't there anyway, so it didn't matter. I can't think of a time I was going out with a woman that I really clicked with and we didn't have sex within a few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:00 PM
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Sex tourists aren't representative of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:13 PM
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Sex tourists in Thailand are kinda gross, creepy looking dudes? Shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:04 PM
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I dated in 2006 and in the last 5 years. It's not the same, but it's not nearly as different as some guys here believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:02 PM
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A big part of the problem is many women having a tendency to micromanage their men, and many men having a trndency to be avoidant and complacent instead of taking initiative and standing up for their independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:53 PM
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Choose better is great advice for men amd women. Unfortunately it's often given in bad faith, and almost always ignored even if it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:31 AM
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I'm all for acknowledging victims, regardless of gender. Thankfully rates of violence have consistently been declining for more than 60 years now. Seems like we're on the right track regarding this as a society. I hope this trend continues. While acknowledging real risks and victims is important, we must also acknowledge that people's anxiety and fear isn't always tied to the real risk. Anxiety rates are through the roof. People socialize less and doomscroll more. They are constantly being bomba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:24 AM
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A wholesome, insightful thread? On my PPD? Outrageous!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:51 AM
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I remember when I was in high school and college, older adults would make it seem like my problems weren't serious and I would understand how hard "real life" was when I'm older. I'm in my mid-30's now and my life has been getting better and better. Made me realize those geezers fucked up in their own lives, then acted like it was a virtue. Hating your wife and your shitty job, losing your passions, having no friends or hobbies doesn't make you mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:58 PM
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That would be one of the battles worth picking. A critical analysis of gender wage gap statistics on a first date might be one to skip.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:28 PM
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Picking your battles and knowing how to engage with humor instead of escalating every disagreement to a heated debate is very important in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:35 PM
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Clavicular still only benching 135 while being on so much gear his dick stopped working is some funny shit. The guy is a walking caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:06 AM
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I have to disagree that your examples of BP advice are covert contracts. They say that things like doing chores and having "correct" politics will increase your chances of a woman being into you and wanting to have sex with you. That's no more of a covert contract than RP saying that being fit and maintaining frame will generate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:32 AM
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The phrase itself is needlessly insulting, but let's not pretend sleeping with 100's of people is healthy for men or women. The guys that move to the Philippines and make fucking different women their whole personality are also pathetic and probably mentally damaged in some way. Why would I be jealous you can't find love?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:09 PM
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The more extreme RP beliefs aren't helpful, but plenty of guys have more moderate "RP lite" beliefs that help them date and get into relationships. Most people don't make it a big part of their identity and don't talk about it outside this sub. I know I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:05 PM
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My ex was a narcissist == I'm a narcissist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:50 PM
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Noticed the same thing. Poly people and sex workers everywhere. I'll be like "that's interesting, this person's lived experience is different from my own. Maybe things are really different in their city." Then I'll check their post history and they're part of a polycule or an active sex worker....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:43 PM
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Anyone counting the days until they can fuck a glorified appliance already wasn't having sex. No one is going obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:24 PM
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Are they trying to trap her or are they pointing out that when you have kids together you can't ever completely seperate, because you will always have to co-parent, which makes it an even bigger commitment than marriage. Because if it's the second one, that's just the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:14 AM
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People on this sub are like: She manipulated me by behaving differently one time in high school 10 years before I met her. He maliciously lied to me by not properly disclosing on the first date all feelings and goals he would or wouldn't develop in the next decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:41 PM
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If people judging you for how you think is best to raise your kids, or the status you might get from having kids is a major component in your decision to have them, then probably don't. Same if you can't find a man that wants to be an active father to have them with. Having kids is literally creating life and helping to raise the next generation of humans. If you don't see a benefit in that, then ya, please opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:17 PM
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I wonder what she tells your brother about you behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:35 PM
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Some of your responses on that thread definitely seemed obtuse and needlessly argumentative. Worthy of personal attacks? Probably not, but I can see why it happened. Multiple people would clearly state that to them part of peace in a relationship meant letting go of small inconsequential issues, and dealing with more serious or ongoing problems with calm respectful discussions, not constant little digs and nitpicks or escalating arguments, and you would respond with some version of "So you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:10 PM
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She's welcome to shoot her shot. Whether she will find someoene that meets all those criteria is another matter. Her being tall doesn't make her more atttactive to tall guys. Her being educated and successful would appeal to guys that want a woman that would pull her weight financially, but since she wants a "generous" guy I'm guessing she's not interested in doing that. She's anti-trump and wants a guy like that. Fair enough, but it's the south and there will be many more women like her competi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:58 PM
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Redpill isn't a men's right movement or a life philosophy. It's a framework meant to help men understand female attraction, and navigate it. That's it. All other issues are out of scope. I care about these other issues to varying degrees. It also has nothing to do with the redpill or dating dynamics, which is what this sub is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:13 PM
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Being attracted isn't a flaw, but making it so blatant in public is. It's not a cardinal sin, but I can't imagine my girl would be thrilled if I was looking so obviously smitten talking to another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:51 PM
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An "ideal father figure" is a man that's physically present in the boys life, embodies traits the boy may aspire to, and takes the time to mentor him. They don't have to be perfect, and it is achievable for most boys. Part of the reason fewer boys have good father figures now is the individualism and isolation of our society. Before, most boys would have a father, 2 grandfathers and multiple uncles in their lives. This gave them a good range of what men could aspire to be. Even if their dad was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:45 PM
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We reject the notion that the term "patriarchy" is a useful concept for analyzing modern society, not embrace the feminist strawman of "the patriarchy" and defend that it's good. Feminists claim we live in a patriarchy, therefore anything bad that happens in society is the fault of "the patriarchy" but why not also the good things? We have almost eradicated world hunger. Should we be thanking "the patriarchy" for that? We too are outraged that there's a two tiered justice system where the rich a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:25 AM
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Barring a few isolated exceptions, feminism has always been fighting for women's benefit, even at the expense of equality. For example in ww1 suffragettes were big supporters of the "white feather movement" which shamed men into enlisting by pinning a white feather on civilian men, symbolizing their cowardice. Following this long standing tradition, modern Ukrainian feminists overwhelmingly support the male only draft. Historically, when women were more oppressed, fighting for women usually mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:03 PM
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The ugly socially awkward guy will do poorly regardless of how "good" he is. But the tall, handsome, confident, fun, guy will do even better if he's also kind than if he's an asshole It's true that many bluepillers often overestimate how important being "good" is for dating, but many redpillers underestimate it. Mentally stable women tend to go for decent men. Not the absolute most moral men regardless of attractiveness, but at least decent. Those "dark triad" guys that pull girls, usually end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:55 PM
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Being more masculine doesn't mean you're a meathead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:04 PM
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It just comes down to most women being more attracted to masculine men. They always have, and no amount of shaming will change that. If you're a generally masculine guy none of these individually will be seen as "icks"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:34 PM
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Either you live in a very unusual bubble or you consider anyone left of Donald Trump to be a far left radical feminist. Hell, even Trump had a sizable percentage of women vote for him. Most women are moderates
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:18 AM
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↑ All the people in relationships tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:05 AM
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I'm assuming you mean by women? You will always be seen as a man, because that's what you are. Whether or not they see you as less than for being a man will depend on the women you interact with and their opinions of men. Plenty of women value men. Especially outside radical feminist or far left circles. I'm not a feminist or a leftist, and only somewhat egalitarian, and I have women in my life that don't see me as less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:49 AM
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People often say it's hard to make friends in my city. Whenever I ask these people what they've recently done to try and make friends, it's always literally nothing...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:55 AM
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I also know men well over 35 with healthy happy babies. What's your point? If he's still in his 30's the age related deterioration of his sperm is going to be minimal, and he can't do anything about it anyway. But he can find a woman in her 20's that doesn't think like you. Worked for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:39 AM
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Being obsessed with not being insecure is more of a bluepill fear. If you're fat and broke, it's healthy to be a little insecure about that, because you are objectively not in a secure position. Instead of learning to be content with that, it's healthy to try and improve. The more important question is if the amount of effort you spent on Self improvement is worth the benefits you are likely to gain from it. Some men use self improvement as a crutch. "I'll hold off on dating until I can bench 25…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:13 AM
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You're allowed to risk slightly annoying someone by talking to them, but also don't waste everyone's time persisting when it's obvious she's not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:46 PM
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In my experience it usually is the same women. The ones using therapy speak to defend their behaviour were the ones to flip out the most if I asked for consideration and understanding from them. The women that were kind, understanding and could take responsibility for their mistakes, didn't talk about emotions in such a clinical way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:07 PM
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All the women I knew that used therapy speak in real life were extremely selfish and would 100% do this. I've also known plenty of reasonable, loving, kind women, so it's definitely not all women, but non of them used that lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:01 PM
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it’s literally just feelings So is any emotional intimacy. So is a close friendship. Sure, your friends are fun to hang out with, and sometimes they will help you out with something, but that's not the only reason you have friends. Having romantic intimacy is just a different, generally stronger, feeling. That stronger feeling acts as a foundation for people to develop closer relationships that are structurally different. Most people don't buy a house or plan to raise children together with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:48 PM
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Talking to OP feels like trying to explain love to an alien.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure OP has just never felt romantic love. It is a different feeling from platonic love or lust. In a good romantic relationship you will have all 3. I'm very close with some friends and relatives, but being emotionally intimate with someone you love just feels different, and when we're talking about human emotion, something feeling different is a valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:21 PM
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you can’t make money off one sentence. It's more than that, but that is the general problem. At it's best you would spend an hour reading up on the basics then try it out yourself and refine it based on what works for you. There's no need for redpill influencers. Instead they pander to bitter guys bitching about how awful women are and doing nothing to improve their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:32 PM
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The ones I knew all loved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:27 PM
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Kinda agree. There's some value in red pill ideas, but the space is now mostly bitter divorced dads and 16 year old kids that have barely ever talked to women. If someone doesn't have the experience to know which parts are bullshit it would be very hard to get useful information from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:00 PM
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Cute smile. I can't describe it, but the way some women look when they laugh or smile just does it for me Long shapely legs Nice butt Not too thin or too thick My gf is exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:40 AM
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You gotta take the good with the bad I guess :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:42 AM
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accepting that you can only control your own behavior is a healthy concept That's good life advice even outside of relationships. People that focus mainly on their own behaviour over the behaviour of others or problems in society tend to be happier and more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:40 AM
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Why would I support, respect, and encourage behaviors from someone that don't benefit me? Or behaviours that don't benefit them. It's not the sign of a good relationship if you support someone in their heroin addiction for example
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:26 AM
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We have fewer negative interactions with people we aren't as close to. We also have far fewer positive interactions. I'm close to my elderly grandfather. I recently had an argument with him because I wouldn't let him stay on his own in a foreign country he didn't have health insurance in or speak the language well. He argued with me in the past when he felt I was making a mistake in my career. Were we trying to control each other? I guess, but that's because we want the best for each other and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:22 AM
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If you're looking for parking and I say it makes sense to park in a stall close to the entrance, it doesn't mean I'm endorsing parking in the handicapped spot, because it's the closest. Morality is independent of what is effective. It's important to understand what develops attraction, and then you can pick and choose what you want to implement in what way depending on your morals and your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:20 PM
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The term "a few" is generally understood to mean 3-5. Maybe 2-6 if you really stretch the definition. That's not that big a range. In this context. It's not first date, but less than a month unless you didn't see each other very often, which itself might mean you didn't click well enough to carve out the time for regular dates. Again. Thats just been my experience dating in larger cities in Europe and North America.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:49 PM
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In practice, anyone who’s stuck around that long hasn’t wanted to wait Exactly! I've never gone on a few dates with a woman and really clicked with her, and she didn't want to have sex after. I see people on this sub act like it happens all the time, and I wonder if they are just from much more conservative cultures, or if they don't know what a genuine connection feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:23 PM
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You constantly make posts about whether or not it's valid to value sex early in a relationship, then complain people responding to your post about sex are also talking about sex. Obviously other things matter in a relationship too. Nobody is denying that. It's just not the point of contention so people don't bring it up as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:09 PM
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The women that go "men should approach more" and "men shouldn't approach strange women, it's creepy" both often act like they speak for all women, which can make it feel like women as a whole are inconsistent. But the supposed third group that says both "approach morr" and "approach less" is not one I have personally encountered. I'm sure some women are like this, but there are very few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 03:35 PM
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Really is how a lot of the "hypocricy" claims here come across. It's not hypocrisy to want a trait in a partner that you yourself don't have. Presumably ypu have different traits they will appreciate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:11 AM
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Marriage is obviously a greater sign of commitment, but the difference between a serious relationship and marriage is actually not that huge. In most parts of the world "common law partners" are still entitled to part of shared assets acquired since they've been together. Married people can, and often do also get divorced. A serious relationship is not being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:04 PM
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I've fucked some moms. Their bodies were fine. This dude seems to be really obsessed with breasts and, yes, breastfeeding will make them saggy. But if it's that big a deal, a boob job will fix that. His other major complaint was her attitude, calling him useless, etc. That would suck, but it's more a relationship issue than something tied to motherhood. We also don't hear her side of the story. A guy that makes this kind of post is probably not the easiest fo live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:28 AM
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In that it's not hard to find men that love to read if you specifically look for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:20 PM
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I guarantee the guys going "herp derp, lucky kid!" Are not the same guys advocating for male sexual assaulted awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:43 AM
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I'm not sure I would trust anything Milo Yiannopoulos tweets, but whores exist, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:41 AM
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If you make a commitment to stay loyal you should honor it. If you want to nuke a perfectly good relationship for some strange, you do you. Many men and women have done so in the past. Doesn't make it a moral decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:57 PM
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How intense is this potential fettish? Would you see a mid white woman as hotter than a 9/10 Indian woman? It doesn't really matter if you label it as a fetish. Just go for who you're attracted to and click with. Realistically, unless you're a 10/10 giga Chad there will be more attractive women out there than your girl, but as long as you're still attracted to her it doesn't really matter. Also stop gooning to porn so much. It can railroad your brain into only being into very specific things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:44 PM
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Even the most "sex early or nothing" guys seem to agree 3 dates in is fine. Most people arguing against you, including myself, think about 5 dates or a month in is fine. Some people have a longer timeline, and that's fine, they just arent compatible with someone that expects sex earlier in their sexual relationship. Our point is that expecting sex earlier isn't a moral failing, and it doesn't mean we don't care about the other aspects of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:56 PM
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I agree! This is a great idea! It helps men weedout some women with serious baggage. If she suggests a "date deposit" men looking for a serious relationship with a genuine connection can know right away she's not the one, and not waste their time and money on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:18 PM
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I'm a man, and you can usually tell. Most women in porn are faking it and doing a poor job of it at that. Some amateur porn looks like genuine pleasure, which is why that's all I watch, when I do watch porn. Which is not very often these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:57 PM
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some women have unreasonably high standards Some women have high standards in a few areas (like looks) and will put up with a lot of bullshit in other areas. Some women are in relationships with objectively below average dudes. Usually these women are below average themselves. And, ya, being social was often what helped these guys get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:53 PM
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This is a misconception about the "date in your own league or you will get played" advice: It doesn't mean most men will treat you poorly if they got the chance, it's that the men that only want something casual or have some major character faults will usually date below their league looks wise, because those women are more likely to put up with their bullshit. Most above average men are decent. They also usually only date above average women, so as an average woman you will only interact with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:47 PM
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I don't know what Scar Jo does. But I know women in their 50's that have a body not far off from hers just by going to the gym and eating a high protein diet. People really underestimate what a good workout routine can do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:39 AM
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Influencers do tend to be hypocrites regardless of their ideology. Just look at the far left grifters like Hasan Piker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:57 AM
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It also becomes very lifestyle dependent as people get older. Most women could have a bod like ScarJo if they ate right and went to the gym 3 times a week, but most don't. Women under 25 can look good smoking, eating whatever they want, frying their skin at the beach every day, and never seeing the inside of a gym. At 45 that lifestyle catches up to you hard. Meanwhile, the gym bunnies still look fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:25 PM
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Truth! Hearing women talk about their "requirements" for a man can be discouraging... until you see the guys they actually date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:15 PM
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If you're tall yourself, tall women are easier to get than short women. Most women want a guy a few inches taller than them. If she's tall her options for this are very limited. Source: I'm 6'2
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:46 PM
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People want their partner to be interested in them sexually as well as enjoying their company. If your partner only wanted to fuck and didnt want to talk to ypu outside of that, that would suck too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:41 PM
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It always had more to do with income disparity than tradition. I'm from Ukraine and it used to be a huge s Passport bro destination despite not being traditional at all. These guys just want to have the dating life of a rich guy, and go to a country they can be rich in. Income disparity between countries is shrinking, but there are still massive gaps, and that doesn't see like it's going away anytime soon. Though the countries sexpats go to will likely shift as countries like Thailand become mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:54 AM
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And she continued dating this guy?! Sounds like a self own more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:37 AM
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Because they are also the part of the small percentage of women most men would never in a million years entertain a romantic relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:35 AM
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Well they had a man in prison for a little while... too bad he tragically killed himself right when the cameras cut out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:23 AM
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I kinda like it, but to be fair I haven't experienced any other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:21 AM
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The number of dudes struggling is definitely overblown on reddit, but it's a lot more than 1/1000. Especially among younger guys. Young people just don't go out as much as they used to, so their social skills are worse, they drink less so their inhibitions are higher, and they are exposed to more online bullshit that making them way more worried about real or imagined risks. Is it most men that struggle? No. But it's a sizable minority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:17 AM
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Engaged RP man here. Don't know if my opinion is welcome in this sub, but this guy ain't it. He seems like an insecure, emotionally unstable loser, which ironically is the exact opposite of what RP says a good man is. He needs to focus on what he needs to do to inspire respect rather than how you need to respect and "obey" him as he is. At 23, you are still young, but not so young you can afford to waste years hoping he will change. Move on ASAP.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/26 10:34 PM
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Breakups suck. Many people would prefer lifelong monogamy if the relationship is fulfilling. The question is how hard are people prepared to work on the relationship and how much are they willing to put up with if it starts to go bad. Many people are looking for a potential lifelong partner. I'm currently in a relationship I hope will last the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:47 PM
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I would have been more surprised if I found up guys like Trump didn't rape 14 year olds. Did people not see how he was acting around his own daughter when she was a teenager?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:20 PM
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If you live in a low income part of the world, and can speak English well, the move is finding some remote work where you get paid from abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:17 PM
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Where I live 2k a month is below minimum wage and well below the poverty line.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:05 PM
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The real test of if you want a relationship with sex early or if you want a hookup and maybe a relationship as an optional bonus is if you still try to fuck if you see they aren't relationship material, whatever that means to you. People vary wildly on how early they want it and most seem to think their timeline is correct and everyone else is either a prude or just looking for a hookup. People that argue for no sex before marriage make the exact same argument as you, but about people that start…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:55 PM
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What's ami?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:48 PM
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Enough to live independently. $30k a year if she's good at making it stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:28 PM
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Dating an average guy when you are average yourself. She's well below average. To her, he is chad
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:58 AM
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Most women clean up nice. If she loses weight and puts on a cute outfit, the wingman is probably trying to smash too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:05 AM
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RedSand is a straight man. Confirmed!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:29 AM
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Most don't hate them. We just don't want a serious relationship with former sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:15 AM
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I'm not saying you're gay, but I don't know any straight men this fixated on dicks... Jokes aside, if you have a micro: I feel for you, that sucks. If you're whining about being average: get over yourself. Most people are average, and plenty of them have satisfying love lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:13 AM
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As a regular guy that has had sex on the first date: this was also the impression I had. Though occasionally these encounters did lead to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:09 AM
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By far the more likely option
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:06 AM
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Was the old lady the first to let you know the milk in the back is freshest? Were you unaware that it's been a cold week before granny pointed it out? Seems like you're just annoyed by men. Plenty of women like being approached. That's why men keep doing it. Though I will grant you, just saying you're beautiful is a poor way to go about it, since it doesn't spark a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:47 PM
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The point of my thread is that the core symptoms of depression are exactly what most people cite as bad traits in a partner, therefore I'm suggesting people seriously consider this when thinking about getting into a relationship with someone with a history of depression. Being older inherently means your body is more aged, and everything that comes with that. Being depressed inherently means you will have symptoms of depression. There isn't anything inherent to any race that makes them have trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:41 PM
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Do you feel the same about little old ladies that make small talk with strangers at the grocery store? I've honestly seen that much more often than guys trying to chat up women. It seems self important to assume people can't say a few words to you in public. You're buying milk, not doing brain surgery. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:26 PM
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I'm sure there are some people that see their partner being much more likely to have health issues and die before them as not a big deal. Just like some people might not mind having a partner that is much more likely to have extended periods of time where they let their hygiene slide, lose their zest for life, ambition, etc. But the vast majority of people would see these as negatives. I'm suggesting people should be more aware of these potential negatives when getting into a relationship. If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:20 PM
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Mostly true, but don't sleep on meetup groups. The gender ratio is usually very good there. Also: If she rejects you, simply move onto the next." This includes soft rejection. If you have to carry the conversation and she keeps looking at her phone - she's not that into you and it's time to move on. Too many guys waste their own time annoying women that are obviously not into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:57 PM
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You don't even have to frame it as female superiority. Just framing it neutrally and avoiding red pill jargon will get most women to agree with most red pill talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:16 PM
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Average sized chads still get hookups just as easily. Women that do casual sex will have a pretty good idea of what an average dick is from hooking up with a variety of guys. I'm not saying dick size doesn't matter att all. Being below average will definitely disadvantage you, and having a hog will make it a little easier, but if it's about average it's not going to matter that much. If you have an average dick and struggle in dating. Your dick isn't the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:04 PM
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A partner 20 years older than you is statistically more likely to have health issues and die earlier leaving you widowed. They are statistically more likely to have a libido that drops quicker as they enter old age before you. The symptoms of depression are literally the same as some of the most common complaints people have in relationships. If it's ageism and ableism for me to point this out, then, sure. I don't mind having these labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:53 PM
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What scene? Is she in the porn industry as well? I think you're just assuming popular, handsome guys that fuck a lot must have big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:01 PM
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Ok, but how does she pick out guys that have dicks like that. If she has a lot of real life experience she will be exposed to the real average, not the porn average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:49 PM
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the type of men that she will have been selecting for will be bigger What does that mean? Porn stars?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:39 PM
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If she has a lot of sex she will have had a lot of different sized dicks. No way she is only having big dicks as standard. If Tom has an average one, she will see it as such. If she's a size queen, and really likes big ones, it will absolutely affect the relationship. Most women arent that obsessed with size, though. As long as it's not really small.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:30 PM
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Sure, undiagnosed depression is also a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:04 AM
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There might actually be some truth to this. Chronic sadness often gets treated as a medical issue, when in reality maybe your life just sucks and fixing the underlying issue will cure the "depression"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:49 AM
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Musk literally too autistic to diddle kids. With the track record of the other billionaires, that's a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:41 AM
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She's holding a panzerfaust, which is a ww2 German weapon. So I'm guessing she a nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:32 AM
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She's cute and seems fun. If I was single and met a woman like her I'd ask her out. Some of the guys in the comments seem to be going a bit overboard, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:26 AM
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it seems like repainting a wall is easy and quick. But when you spend the whole day doing what you thought would take a maximum of an hour - you realise that you have underestimated things Literally, my girlfriend haha. She was really excited about totally renovating our place together until she had to repaint the bathroom. Turns out its fine if we only do the projects I'm ok with doing on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:16 AM
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It's one thing to support your partner if they get depressed when you're already together. It's another thing to go for someone that is statistically much more likely to get depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:20 AM
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Ok, let me rephrase: is it ageism to tell people it's probably not a good idea to get into a serious relationship with someone 20 years older than them? Would I be excluding people on the basis of age-related vulnerability?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:32 PM
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Why do women with no useful education or employable skills keep doing a job that pays hundreds of dollars an hour? Truly a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:05 PM
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Is it ageism to refuse to date someone 20 years older than you? No one owes you sex or love. People's love life isn't a charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:02 PM
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I agree that self diagnosed depression isn't always a good indicator. Some people over diagnose and others refuse to admit they have a problem. I mean someone you think would probably meet the criteria to get a clinical diagnosis of depression if they sought it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:19 PM
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In the real world <15% will experience a major depressive episode in their lifetime. I wouldn't call going for the remaining 85% a "perfect standard for perfection"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:11 PM
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Of course exceptions exist, and I wish you the best. But it is statistically less likely that someone that has never struggled with depression will struggle with it in the future. For most people depression medication isn't 100% effective and also often has serious sexual side effects, like a loss of libido and difficulty orgasming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:04 PM
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I'm happily in a relationship with a woman with no mental health issues. They aren't that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:45 PM
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Is my type. Dressed sexy. Has an obviously bubbly personality
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:11 PM
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You not being on the same page usually is the issue in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:08 PM
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That's an ick to most women. Keep that shit under control, especually early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:00 PM
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Then it's seen as a red flag - Lack of desire for sex or a relationship with a woman, anxiety issues, or unresolved trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:26 PM
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7 years. They both wanted to have a really big wedding, and were saving for it. Now they're happily married and back in debt after saving probably $200k over 7 years...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:04 PM
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Sex is a psychological need. Similar to our need for social interaction. You won't die without it, but most people would be psychological affected if they couldn't get it. Most people also need both from their partners to maintain closeness in a romantic relationship. I wouldn't want my partner to force themselves to have sex with me, but if we had a libido mismatch I would expect her to take it seriously, put in effort and work with me to get her in the mood. I would (and have) done the same wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:02 PM
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In a serious relationship there is an expectation that you will try to work on the relationship, rather than just bailing whenever things get difficult. If it's a marriage you literally did sign a contract. Of course if you have seriously tried, and nothing works, then, yes, ending the relationship is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:54 PM
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I agree that it often gets used this way, but that's just an incorrect use of the term. By definition you would need a "close emotional relationship" to feel arousal. Getting horny for a guy on the first date (even if you don't sleep with him) is not demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:50 PM
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Demisexual doesn't mean you just arent horny 24/7. It means you can only experience sexual attraction to someone you have a close emotional connection with. That is definitely not typical female sexuality. Also, not wanting to have sex with someone new because you are anxious about the risks isn't demisexual either. If you've ever felt horny for someoen you didn't know well, you aren't demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:35 PM
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Because you couldn't get a woman to want to sleep with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:31 PM
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Depends on where you date. If you're going for super religious, conservative women, they would probably see that as a positive. As long as you frame it as "looking for the right one" and not "nobody wanted to fuck me" If you're in a liberal city, it would definitely be seen as at least a yellow flag by most women. The good news is, you don't actually have to disclose that info. At least not early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:25 AM
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I mean that's kinda to be expected in any long term relationship. Early on, you're infatuated and spend all your free time and energy on them. Later on you settle into a routine. In a good relationship, that effort should never go down to 0, but expecting the same energy as the first few months for decades is also unrealistic. If I had sex with my gf 90% of the time we saw each other we wouldn't get anything else done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:53 PM
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Good relationship > Being single > bad relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:23 AM
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Found them on Eventbrite and Meetup. Basically singles night at a bar. Once inside you talk to whoever you want. I live downtown in a large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:23 AM
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I've had success at less structured events where people can just freely mingle. The ones I went to had more women than men, and the women were more attractive on average, so an average guy would at least have a shot at chatting a couple women up. Your success will be heavily dependent on how good your social skills are. Personally, I suck at texting and would rather spend a couple hours drinking and chatting with single women at a bar than swiping and texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:34 AM
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Ok. Vast majority of single people are in the "want a relationship pool" if they are presented with a good enough option. It doesn't really matter that slightly more women want a relationship with Henry Cavil than men want a relationship with Sydney Sweeney. What matters is the number of men vs women willing to get into a relationship with someone in their league, which, by definition, is always the same
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:55 PM
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Again, people wanting to be in a relationship isn't a binary. As their relationship options improve, more people are willing to be in a serious relationship. The number of men and women willing to get into a relationship in their relationship league is, by definition, always the same I'm in a relationship with an amazing woman. If I wasn't able to find a woman like her, I would have preferred to stay single. I have a friend that wants a relationship in theory, but can't attract the type of woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:35 PM
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That, or a loyal guy they just aren't attracted to. Most wouldn't (and probably shouldn't) go for either option, evening out the percentage of women and men willing to get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:47 PM
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The percentage of people that want to pair up is heavily dependant on their options. Almost everyone would want a relationship if their absolute perfect partner turned up. Less desirable women lower their standards until they no longer want a relationship with the guys they have a available.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:29 PM
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If the relationship is strong and they maintain that closeness men generally stay attracted to their wives as they age. "Wife goggles" is definitely a thing. When it comes to strange women, most men, regardless of their age, prefer women in their 20's. Everyone keeps bringing up DiCaprio, but there's also Brosnan that seems to still be really into his wife as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:05 PM
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Yes, your "league" is whoever you can attract. Leagues are different for casual vs relationships. Since men are on average more likely to be more interested in casual it's easier for a woman to find a guy for casual, and the reverse is true for men. Obviously there is some variability in what people find attractive, but usually traits that are attractive to you will also be attractive to many other people who you will have to compete with. Women that complain that "guys just don't commit these d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:49 PM
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Shooting your shot and approaching more means approaching strangers, not asking out every girl in your friend circle. Even then, I find it's better to start a platonic conversation first, then escalate if she's into it. You can just move quicker and take more risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:14 PM
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If you're trying to meet women through your social circle you look for signs she's into you first. Start flirting a little bit, maybe hang out with her one on one "as friends". If she's into it, then you ask her out. If she's not into it, you have plausible deniability. When meeting strangers, you can be more bold
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:55 PM
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Tinder is like: "damn, bitch, you still haven't found a man? How about these guys you rejected back when your self esteem was high?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:18 PM
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hard for normal women to get an LTR Dental hygienists are normal women too. And from what you describe they seem to be doing pretty well at getting an LTR. Or is the real issue thay you, personally, can't attract the men you want? I know many highly educated, successful men. None of them have a problem dating a woman with a similar education and career. But they don't care about that nearly as much as women, and will prioritise looks and a pleasant personality. The tone of this post doesn't scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:51 PM
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As you get to know someone you learn more about who they really are. Some people are surprised a decade into a relationship. Does that mean a decade isn't enough time to truly vet? My point is that you can usually learm a lot even on the first date. But obviously not everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:33 AM
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Unstructured "mingling" ones are better than speed dating. Just go up to women and talk to them. If you don't have much experience dating just talk to them the way you would when trying to make a platonic friend. You can get more flirty later if she seems into you. If she seems like she's not super into it, move on to the next one fairly quickly. Lots of awkward guys will waste their whole evening trying to chat up a woman they are clearly not getting anywhere with. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:21 AM
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Mine became a huge conspiracy nut. He thinks "they" invented gay people and COVID to control people. I'm still not sure who "they" are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:24 AM
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"Incel" is now used the same way "queer" was in the 80's. Generic derogatory term for a "weird guy I don't like"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:14 AM
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I've noticed whenever people use the phrase "we had our ups and downs like any relationship" the "downs" are always something horrific, and the "ups" is just a normal relationship. She broke up with this guy to go fuck her best friend, but new guy didn't want a relationship with her so she came crawling back to the old guy even though she's not attracted to him and he can't even make her cum and he took her back because he had no other easy options, and no spine. Nice... This guy is a loser for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:00 AM
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I find a low pressure date is the perfect setting to find all that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:33 AM
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You absolutely can. You just can't be 100% accurate with it, that is true even after months of knowing them, though, of course, your assessment of them will become more accurate as you get to know them more. Firstly "best behaviour" is relative. Different people value different things. They may present a side of them they see as neutral, or even good, but you might see as bad. Most people are also pretty bad at lying or faking large parts of their personality. If you talk to a lot of people you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:28 AM
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Sometimes you both just want to bang out a quick O before bed. Not every time needs to be a marathon
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:57 PM
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I've heard multiple women tell me male gyno's were more professional and gentle. Female gyno's have more of a "stop being a baby" attitude. Never heard of them deliberately hurting patients, though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:06 PM
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Obviously an unwanted pregnancy is a big fucking deal, but the risk is very low, if you take reasonable precautions, so sex itself isn't that big a deal. Many women feel the same way. That's like if I was looking for people to go skydiving with me and you were telling me I was unreasonable because of how dangerous skydiving is. Clearly plenty of people feel the risk is worth it, so I'll just go skydiving with them instead. If you don't want to go skydiving with me, that's your choice. If there w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:59 PM
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If you take some common sense precautions, the risk isn't that high. People that are into sex, and not very anxious generally have it when they're horny and with a person they are attracted to. It seems you might be like that too: If im not intending to get to knkw you long term im really fine with having a hookup and just not dealing with you in any capacity and still dating other men Like most people here, I'm not in one of the US states with an abortion ban, but if the girl I'm with is catast…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:34 PM
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pushing for sex too soon makes it come off as casual sex to women regardless what you say about wanting a romantic relationship with her There's some truth to that. But to a man delaying sex too long can feel like he's being strung along. I'm not trying to take her back to my place after one coffee date. But, in my experience, if it doesn't naturally get there within 5 dates or so, the chemistry usually wasn't there to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:01 PM
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That's the thing: If we got to know each other over the course of a few dates, and we really clicked, I don't want a woman that would see sex with me as a huge risk. Plenty of women don't If she's really anxious about sex, I don't want her to feel pressured, but I also don't want to persue anything with her. If I sense a woman is uncomfortable early into dating her, I will just end things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:35 PM
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You are a stronger man than me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:26 PM
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Why is it so hard to comprehend that people can simultaneously have multiple criteria. I want sex to be a part of getting to know someone fairly early in the relationship. I also want someone that I enjoy spending time with outside of sex, connect with on an emotional level, shares my values, aligns with my goals, etc. I did not ask for a hookup, becaue I was not looking for a hookup. We have women in this subreddit complaining about men that said they wanted a fwb, then switched up and caught f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:07 PM
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Most of Red Pill advice is made by men for men. The advice for women tends to suffer from the same problem as a lot of blue women's advice for men: It's how they wish they were treated by the person they are already attracted to. r/redpillwomen focus a lot on finding a man that will step up. They don't fuck with losers over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:44 PM
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It's not about what people do or don't deserve, it's about focusing on what you can currently get, what you want to get, and what you can do to bridge the gap between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:28 PM
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Damn, you must know some really volatile, insecure men! The don't correct him advice is actually good if it's for something small that ultimately doesn't matter. Or if it's obvious he already realised his mistake. No one likes a back seat driver. I don't know any women that love being called out for every little mistake they make either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:23 PM
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Exactly! 95% of women that wanted to have sex with me wanted "companionship" with me as well. I can't imaging it's the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:50 PM
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Most men also want companionship. The difference is that sex is generally harder for men to get, so they are more concerned with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:44 PM
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Wow! A Lilith take I actually agree with! It's definitely easier for attractive people, but everyone has to work with what they have, and having decent social skills makes a huge difference. And the best way to develop social skills is practice and repeated exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:05 AM
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Most women that try the apps either find their man relatively quickly, and delete the app, or they are turned off by the whole process and the barrage of creepy messages they get, also leaving the app. The minority of women that are incredibly picky, just like the attention, or can't maintain lasting relationships keep coming back to the apps. As a result these women are massively overrepresented on there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:12 AM
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Ya, the trans ones
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:39 PM
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Some people are looking for a romantic relationship that also has a sexual component as it builds. Not a casual relatuonship that might turn romantic later. No relationship starts very deep and vulnerable. If you're on a first date with someone you just met, there's only so deep it can be, regardless of your intentions. If you're looking for something serious and you click the relationship will become deeper as you get closer. Some people are comfortable also having sex during these early stages…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:27 PM
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To use the Taco bell analogy: He invited you to Taco Bell. You went to Taco Bell together a couple times and had a good time. He then said he wants to go to a fancy restaurant for your next meal together, and you got annoyed with him for not telling you he might eventually get tired of only having Taco Bell when he first invited you there. Peoples feelings change over time. That's natural. If your expectations for the relationship no longer align you might have to end it. It sucks, but that' not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:11 PM
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This is meant to be a criticism of red pill guys, but you're really throwing any woman that has sex with a guy after only a few dates under the bus the most here. They're all shallow, don't care about depth or love and ignore red flags? Even the hardest core Redpill misogynists on here don't slut shame this hard. On the contrary, many of these woman are lovely. They can be interested in building a deeper emotional connection while also having sex. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:30 AM
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The only part that disgusted me were the dirty untrimmed nails in the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:03 AM
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I agree with most of what you said. This guy has an unhealthily transaction view of sex. Except this: the female libido is almost guaranteed to never be on pace with yours Dude says he is ok with sex once every two weeks. Rarer if there are extraneous circumstances. The majority of women have a libido higher than this. If he focused on generating and maintianing closeness and desire in the relationship he wouldn't have much trouble finding a woman that enjoyed regular sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:46 AM
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Regular sex is expected in the vast majority of romantic relationships. Usually if the sex is absent or extremely rare for an extended period of time, the relationship is already on the rocks. But, despite claiming not to, you seem to view sex in a very transactional way. If I provide for her she should have sex with me! Instead you need to find women that desire you, and work on maintaining that closeness and desire. She should see regular sex with you as a benefit to her, not a favor she does …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:38 AM
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I'm not a huge fishing enthusiast, but I used to enjoy fishing with my grandpa when I was a kid. Catching fish when you have no intention of eating them just feels sadistic. Same with trophy hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:29 AM
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Of course. Though you don't need that much money for a babysitter for a couple hours. And if you maintain a good relationship with nearby relatives or friends you can leave the kids with them once in a while too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:16 PM
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we still get time together and some time apart, All the parents I know that have a good marriage have been very deliberate about setting time aside to spend time apart from the kids, go on dates, etc. The ones that just expect their marriage to stay strong after kids despite putting no work into it end up bitter and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:07 PM
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The bar is not in hell since this guy only had a 1 in 2 million success rate just for a date. Not exactly doing great. Wherever the bar was it seems to have been well above this guy. That ratio of matches suggests it was probably mostly bots and scams. But, ya, I agree that with most of the guys that really struggle when you find out more about them, you realise there's a lot more going on than them not being over 6' or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:57 PM
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I was 33 she was 24
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:41 PM
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Most men still get with women just fine. The guys threatenimg they will retreat into their goon caves would still have been losers in any other time in history. Though back then, they probably would have gotten occasional duty sex from a wife that hated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:58 AM
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"Act confident" is really what people mean. Which is good advice. You don't have to be confident to convincingly fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:46 AM
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And money. Lots and lots of money
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:13 AM
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You live with drug dealers and wonder why there's crazy shit going on at your place? Rent somewhere the landlord requires a good credit score and stable employment and you won't have this problem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:09 AM
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Sex is a combination of desire and skill/logistics You can be a sex god, but if there is no desire, you will still fall short of her favourite vibrator. On the other hand, if the sex is awful, she will eventually get frustrated and lose that desire for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:15 AM
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They probably didn't even watch the video and just listen to their own propaganda. Like leftists that still insist Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't defending himself and should have been convicted of murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:37 AM
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Princess treatment? I don't know why women want to be forced into an arranged marriage for the good of the kingdom so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:26 AM
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Sure. I'm basically that guy, happilly in a relatilnship with a woman that appreciates that about me. My girl is pretty amazing though, so just cause she could find a guy like that, doesn't mean just anyone could ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:03 PM
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Depends on how much they like her. Personally, if I really like a girl I'll put in some effort and see if she reciprocates. If she does I'll do more. I happily put effort into my relationship, because my girl does too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:00 PM
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That's fine. Sounds like you weren't compatible with that guy and he found a way to filter for that early to not waste both of your time. i state very plainly that I’m looking for a serious relationship. Many people are looking for a serious relationship, but will do casual in the meantime. Or they see sex as part of the vetting for if they want to get into a seruous relationship with someone (like me when I was single). Guys learn that "I'm looking for a relationship. I don't do casual" doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 PM
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The argument is that not putting too much effort into courting her early is a way to filter out women that are just looking for attention or are treating the guy as a backup option. It's not that guys treat woman that are really into them worse, it's that these woman stick around despite not being courted as much. I find it works as long as you don't go overboard with it. If she's demonstrating she's very interested in you, reciprocating that energy helps build the relationship. But if she's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:03 PM
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Would you have been down to hookup with them within a couple dates if they approached the initial conversation differently? My guess is no. Starting with sexual flirting early was their way to filter for that, as that's what they were looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 PM
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Is it just a little flirty sexual innuendo, or are we discussing our sex life? There's plenty of women that are more than OK with the first one 5 minutes into meeting a guy they're into.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:29 PM
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As others said women usually don't communicate interest directly. As a man If you're not sure what she meant, and are sexually interested in her, assuming she meant it as flirting is usually the move. They saw an opportunity and went for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:24 PM
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Its not even in the top 10 causes of death in Africa
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:56 PM
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Personally, I have no interest in fighting over a woman that was complicit in trying to make me feel jealous. If she wants to flirt with another guy, he can have her. But if it's just a guy hitting on her and she wasn't doing anything to encourage him, I would definitely step in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:13 AM
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Trying to keep someone you love around for as long as possible when they are demonstrating that they don't feel the same about you is futile and will only lead to more pain. If my leg was severely injured and there was no hope of recovering it, I wouldn't hesitate to have it amputated. That doesn't mean I didn't care about having legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:58 AM
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Freud? Is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:14 PM
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I think it's more that people are more open to trying new things, and step out of their comfort zone while traveling. Almost like a license to explore a more fun, spontaneous version of yourself for a week or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:45 PM
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Traveling to new places is fun! I couldn't be with a woman that didn't enjoy traveling with me. That said, I've never had an easier time hooking up than with girls I met staying at hostels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:53 PM
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Here in Commie Canada it was always about 2 weeks for standard service. Rush service is a couple days, but you have to pay a little extra for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:55 AM
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I googled what traits make a person nice, and this is what I got: "Key traits include being a good listener, showing generosity, offering sincere compliments, maintaining honesty, and displaying patience. They are respectful, forgiving, and dependable." This aligns pretty closely with how I would describe a nice person, and I think most Redpillers would agree. In moderation, these aren't bad traits for a person to have. But being too nice (as defined by these traits) makes it harder for a man to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:10 PM
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I don't understand. How would these problems go away if women just stopped complaining? They would still only be attracted to the same men as before, right? So the men that struggle now, would keep struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:52 PM
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Yes, despite what you may have been taught in fairy tales, being a selfish asshole often works. Especially if you don't intend to maintain a connection with the people that now know you're a selfish asshole. Many men and women have been like that since the dawn of time. But if you care about having some moral decency, or you want to build meaningful relationships, then not being a lying prick is probably better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:23 PM
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Start doing substances
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:18 PM
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what percentage of women would you say that you would pay a non-trivial amount (say $200+) for sex? I wouldn't pay for sex. I'm not sure what the US obesity rate a among specifically younger women is, but my city is pretty fit and I would estimate about 70% of the women under 30 I see at the grocery store could easily get guys to pay $200+ to have sex with them. Again, I agree with your main point thst there's a reason most women don't want to do this. I just don't think "it's not as economicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:41 PM
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Most young women could be a prostitute and make decent money. Maybe not $525 an hour, but still good money. The reason it's not a real privilege isn't that it's not economically viable, it's that most women would hate it and find it soul crushing, not to mention dangerous.That's why it pays so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:11 PM
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I've never desired a hookup or FWB. Why fuck them then? I've desired all the women I had sex with. At least in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:22 PM
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It's not that different from having a gf that desires you, except that the girls are usually nuts. Of course, you might not have a gf that really desires you, while a fwb wouldn't keep you around if she didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:17 PM
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what are the things she’s using men for? For a serious relationship: usually money and stability. If it's just flirting, then attention. What are the signs a woman is using a man? She doesn't make an effort to reciprocate his efforts. She doesn't display sexual desire for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 PM
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That's certainly the easiest way, but many women don't hide it and still find guys that accept that. Or they stay single forever. Either way they don't need to lower their standards if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:58 PM
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The part I disagree with you on is that no one is trying to get us to lower our standards. I see people on here all the time talking about how the other gender in general or a specific person needs to lower their standards. I've had people on here call me unreasonable, and insist I need to lower my standards for only pursuing relationships with women that were ready to be intimate with me fairly early. Or for being in my mid 30's and only going for women that don't have a kids, are open to havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:49 PM
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The funniest are the women here that rant about men only caring about women's bodies and sex - then you check their profile and they're an active sex worker. That's like if I worked as a realtor and complained that all people care about is buying houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:57 PM
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It's just losers trying to frame their desperation as a virtue. Plenty of us have high standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:50 PM
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Big glasses is another Hollywood hot girl disguise that makes me laugh. Putting glasses on a hot girl doesn't make her a frumpy nerd all the guys ignore. It just makes her a hot girl with glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:31 PM
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I agree to an extent. But you were asking about benefits to your life. Having a partner that out earns you is a major benefit to your life regardless of how much he has to work for it. Though, on average, married men also work longer hours outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:07 AM
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Who are these men expecting you to do all of the work? In the US, only 16% of women earn more than their husbands. It seems like most women are at least finding husbands that bring in more money than them. The only couples I know where women do almost all of the housework have partners earning the vast majority of the household income. In any relationship there's going to be some compromises. What does the household money get spent on? What household tasks need doing and to what standard? Who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:20 AM
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Women are less direct in their communication and value tact and subtlety more. Most people socialise more with their own gender growing up, so it's easy to see how a heterosexual autistic woman who's had practice dealing with women's communication styles would have an easier time adapting to communicating with men, than an autistic man used to the more blunt communication style of men would have with women. Since autistic people are often more direct and have a harder time picking up on social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:04 AM
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Glad we have your approval Brigid. I'll be sure to let my gf know lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:23 PM
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It's more important to not be too deficient in any category than to excel in a few. A guy could have all of any top 3 and still struggle because he's too low in one of the other areas If he's not too bad in any other areas, then 1 - face 2 - height 3 - charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:10 PM
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Side. I'm not a savage!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:34 PM
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That's also been my experience for the really speedy ones. Like same night we met. Mostly being the most attractive, charismatic guy in the right place at the right time, which often doesn't mean you have to be that attractive or charismatic. But if sex didn't happen within 5 dates or so, usually the chemistry wasn't there anyway. When women hear the 3 or 5 date rule they sometimes imagine guys are rejecting women that were all over them in every way other than having sex. That's rarely the case…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:24 PM
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This has to be bait. Maybe I don't want STDs. Now, I would agree that the significant reduction in pleasure, especially for men should not be dismissed the way it often is, but couples should be able to decide for themselves if they want to use them. With a new partner it's usually a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:29 PM
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Solid strategy, to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:25 PM
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Usually not worth it. You could break up and the guy might turn out to be a piece of shit and leak it. A sexy clothed Pic with a sexy caption has the same effect on a guy with much less risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:02 PM
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Absolutely not! And my friends don't do that shit either. It's immensely disrespectful to your girl, and kinda cuck behaviour. Why would I want my friends to see my girl naked?! We'll sometimes discuss past experiences, but never with pictures or specific names.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:54 PM
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Username checks out I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:28 PM
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If I had all my current memories and knowledge - first one. I can take care of myself. The real benefit of sex is feeling desired and experiencing intimacy with someone you have mutual love with. I wouldn't get that in a materialistic relationship anyway. If I was a virgin and didn't have my current memories of having sex - second one. I would want to experience this thing everyone was talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:22 PM
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It's wrong to tell women about it lol. All men have jerked it to mental images of women they know. Before porn was readily available that's all we had. Now that most younger women have sexy pics on their Instagram, its probably even easier. Though, personally if I'm already pulling my phone out I would rather watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:15 PM
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I wouldn't really care. Where I live both are common enough that they wouldnt raise and eyebrow. My girlfriend's career is tied to her name so changing it would not make sense for us. I would actually advise against changing it if we were getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:30 PM
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Most feminists claim we are still living under patriarchy. I would say, in most societies at most points in history women had it harder, but this wasn't universal, such as in times of war. I think modern Western society is fairly balanced, though I do believe it is now swinging towards favoring women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:43 AM
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Sure. I don't disagree with that. I'm an adult, dating adult women. I expect them to have some sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:08 PM
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You can make that argument about almost anything someone can vet on. E.g: "I wouldn't get into a relationship with a man if his apartment is very messy" - obviously you just care about cleanliness and not a relationship. Just hire a cleaner if that's all you care about "I wouldn't date a man that wouldn't pay for the date" - you don't care about relationships, only money! "I wouldn't get in a relationship with a woman that didnt share my hobbies" - you only care about hobbies! just admit you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:02 PM
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I wouldn't want her to be uncomfortable. If I sensed she was uncomfortable I wouldn't want to have sex with her. I would want a woman that is comfortable and eager having sex with me relatively early in a relationship. In my experience women like that aren't rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:52 PM
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Lilith: people have a vetting process, you need to accept that! Men: we agree! Part of my vetting process is if she wants to have sex with me early. Nooo not like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:40 PM
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She's not. We can want sex early and also enjoy doing other relationship activities. I don't see the contradiction in this. Even if you have sex often, most of your time together will still be spent doing other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:36 PM
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If the girl I date is not capable of it and has never done it, I have no problem with Personally, I don't really care that much is she has or not. Not that I have any reliable way of knowing her past anyway. If she needs a really long time with everyone, she could have a low libido, strong religious views, unresolved trauma, etc. Any one of those would also be a deal breaker for me, so it doesn't really matter if she only needed a long time with me or everyone. We're not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:34 PM
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Arguing with weird people online is a guilty pleasure of mine. I'm happy with my love life and I don't dislike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:14 PM
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Most men don't despise "non-sexual relationship activities" even if we're having sex regularly those other activities will still make up the majority of time we spend together. We can want sex, and those other activities too. I don't despise "the vetting process" Everyone has their own vetting process to decide if they want to get into a relationship with someone. For many men, including myself, part of their vetting process is that the woman was eager to have sex with them within 5 or so dates.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:12 PM
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I'm not complaining. I'm glad people here are more honest and realistic now. I'm very happy where I'm at in life and I worked hard to get here. Are you going to "put in effort" and dig through old PPD comments to prove blue people were talking about the importance of looks and money? I'm sure there are better uses of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:53 PM
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I'm not going to pour over 10 year old PPD comments to find examples, but there were definitely a lot of blue men and women here that were claiming that personality is bybfar the most important, and you should "just be yourself" and "you don't want shallow people that care about that stuff anyway" "Money matters" doesn't mean only rich guys have success. But it certainly helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:36 PM
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Are attractive younger women into you? If so, you don't need a pass. If not, that's was the real issue all along
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:13 PM
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I've noticed it too. Same with the importance of money and status. Ironically it's also what's killing the red pill. The more reasonable parts of it got absorbed into the mainstream so it's becoming irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:08 PM
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What's the point debating if you make a group where everyone agrees with you? That's just a circlejerk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:15 PM
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No. I put more effort into the relationship if I saw a future with the woman or I was extremely attracted to her. I don't blame women for doing the same. I just wouldn't want to be the safe boyfriend she's not that attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:01 PM
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I'm just trying to figure out why you as a 6'4 decently handsome guy are having such a hard time, while some guys shorter and uglier than you have success. I'm not trying to be a dick. What would be your guess? I'm sure you've seen guys less good looking than you with girlfriends. What do you think was different about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:17 AM
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If you're getting tons of initial interest, but they all ghost then you are definitely doing something off putting. You said it was "the most innocuous conversations you can imagine" that might be the problem. You have to try to be interesting, flirt and escalate. Risking being a little offensive or weird is always better than being boring. That is a sin almost as bad as being ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:03 AM
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I wouldn't say it doesn't occur in real life, but It's a lot easier for some guys. The problem with the apps is that there are way more men on there than women, and you have to try and get her interest only through photos and text, which is a skill all on it's own. That would be like if you went to a party where it was 80% guys. It would be a bad place to pick up chicks. IRL you can get in situations where you can chat with a girl 1 on 1 for a few minutes without interruption. You can also get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:53 AM
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Depends on what the relationship entails. Don't upend your whole life for someone you just met, but if you enjoy spending time together and want to be exclusive, why not try it out? If you live seperate and keep your finances seperate, a break up isn't that big a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:30 AM
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Speed dating sounds awful, but I had good results at less structured singles nights. Met my girlfriend at one. Also just hanging out at a bar in a touristy city is a great way to find something casual, if that' more your vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:21 AM
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I swear black pillers are just massocists in disguise. Why seek out these comments and circlejerk over them? Are there women that don't lust after their husbands? Obviously, but you can find at least as many comments from women talking about how much their husband turns them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:46 AM
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Many women do like it when guys approach them and try to get their number/insta. As long as the guy isn't being too vulgar, and fucks off if he's rejected. She doesn't have to proposition him for sex, but trying to chat up a strange guy for a date would work well for most women. They just don't want to do it, and enough men approach women that they don't have to. And that's fine. I know I would be approaching a lot less if I could just go out and have women try to chat me up all night.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:40 AM
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True, but calling it out won't change anything. Enough men still approach, so women don't have to if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:34 AM
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Women have to make themselves look good and put themselves in a situation where men are likely approach them, then they can "relax and enjoy the ride" If they're relaxing at home they're going to have to "enjoy the ride" alone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:29 AM
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Focusing on only one thing at the exclusion of everything else for an extended period of time is almost always the worst advice, because you get diminishing returns when you put too much of your time into one thing. Making dating your life mission would be bad because you will fall behind in other areas of your life, which will ultimately make dating harder too. But focusing only on self improvement or career growth will stunt your social development, and you will probably burn out. A balance is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:17 AM
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Its a good way to determine sexual chemistry and desire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:11 PM
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It would be pretty depressing to be only one of either of those options. You want to be desired by the woman you're with, but only being seen as good enough for sex would get old real fast too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:49 PM
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Yup! I can't imagine trying to convince a woman to be exclusive with me either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:05 PM
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Counter example: when I was single I wouldn't wait more than 5 dates for sex. My best friend said he had a 3 date rule. Whe are bother happily in serious relationships. Not having sex early filters out a lot of the guys that just want an easy lay, but it also weeds out a lot of the relationship focused guys that value being desired and having chemistry early.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:41 PM
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As long as she's still satisfied with the sex: best partner. Sex is important, but you cant build a lifelong relationship just on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:19 PM
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The issue with this analogy is that the vast majority of people don't have a strong desire for a new iPhone, and don't feel unfulfilled and depressed when their phone is a couple models old. A better analogy is the psychological need most humans have for social interaction. Most people begin to feel depressed if they are isolated for an extended period of time. So much so that solitary confinement is seen as a severe punishment in prison. But at the same time no one is obligated to be your frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:15 PM
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Many of the guys here lack experience. They don't get any sex so they hyper focus on it. Like a starving man that can only think about food. Most men, especially the men you you would want, aren't like that. In most healthy relationships, regular sex is a given, but it's a small part of the relationship. Guys that know that and have options absolutely do care about being with a woman that's funny, smart and supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:40 AM
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As a black pill guy, I'm sure you already know a big part of the reason. Another part is being social and in scenarios where women are open to mingle and be sexual. Not a lot of guys are getting laid after a sober dinner date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:05 AM
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Some do. Most take it into consideration, but it's far from the only thing they care about. The thing is that having money makes it easier to be more attractive and have a more interesting personality too. Getting in shape is easier with a personal trainer and an expensive diet. Same for dressing well. Bad teeth bad hair? With money you can get that fixed. If you can afford expensive hobbies and travel you will also have more interesting experiences to talk about. And if you're successful people…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:56 PM
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It's crazy how brazen some are about it too. Like I'm clearly not interested. My girlfriend is RIGHT THERE, why are you trying to flirt?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:20 PM
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My girlfriend got us some when she moved in. Something about it being better for black girl's hair. I don't notice much of a difference, but maybe it's because I'm not a girl, black, or have hair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:13 PM
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I agree that people dating younger because they think the person is easier to control is a red flag, but plenty of people get into more casual relationships just because they find each other hot. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. My gf is 9 years younger than me. We are in the same "life stage" and have a lot in common. Based on your criteria you would probably approve of our relationship, but I still resent the fact that people like you think that a relationship between two consenting…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:00 PM
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For example my grandfather who I am close to had some major health issues recently, so I was spending a lot of time with him, and neglecting my gf a bit. She understood there was a lot on my mind and instead of adding to that stress she was supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:07 PM
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I want the woman in my life to have empathy for me, especially when it's something that requires action on her part. I don't really care if women at large empathize with the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:02 PM
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Men should learn to be ok with being rejected and move on to the next one, not keep pursuing the woman that already rejected them. At best he's not a priority for her or she's playing immature games. A worst (and most likely) she is genuinely not interested and he is now harassing her by persisting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:18 PM
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That's the thing. There's a diversity of opinion on what constitutes an immoral age gap relationship. Almost everyone can agree that an adult dating a 15 year old is immoral for the adult, even if the 15 year old wants them. But, is a 32 year old dating a 22 year old immoral? What about a 17 year old dating a 20 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:10 PM
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A desperate man's only expectations, maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:15 AM
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Maybe, but the culture of partying and hooking up has been around for many generations now. It's not some new phenomenon. There are 80 years old grannies today that got fingered at Woodstock in their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:55 AM
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People well into their 20's should be expected to make responsible choices for themselves. Obviously some don't, but the "I'm just a kid" excuse starts to wear thin by the time you should have been an independent adult for 4+ years. I actually find most women that age arent so unrealistic. Many will claim to have these crazy high standards, but when you look at who they actually date they rarely meet half of those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:49 AM
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I haven't really seen this phenomenon of Asexual women claiming all women are like them. There's some very vocal women complaining about the options they have available, or how much emphasis most men place on sex, but these women still want sex and relationships. Just only with the men they desire. They aren't asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:35 AM
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As a guy in my 30's it was definitely way easier as a man. It's harder to just fall into relationships because you're not constantly surrounded by new single people like you were in high school and university, but if you go to places where people are out to meet someone it's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:55 PM
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Same! I also found that being in a big city there wasn't stigma surrounding being single in your 30's and going out. Some venues definitely cater to the teens with fake ID's, but there were plenty of bars and clubs where someone in their 30's or even 40's wouldn't stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:45 PM
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To me, texting a lot and voice calls is a bigger waste of time than a simple date. I was going to have dinner anyway. Lets grab a bite to eat together at a low key place and chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:02 PM
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Because some women aren't boring and they were hoping the woman they went on a date with was one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:28 PM
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Some people are just bad at holding a conversation. I've definitely encountered women that do this too. Also, sometimes you can tell you don't click, but there isn't an easy opportunity to leave right away. E.g you just ordered food. If there are two people on a date that arent good at maintaining a conversation and usually rely on the other person to drive it, then you get awkward silences or one person just rambling. Why didn't these women fill the silence themselves? Why didn't they jump in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:25 PM
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E.g. Lilith concluding that any man that expresses any interest in sex must hate relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:43 PM
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There are definitely some guys here that will learn one fact about a woman and write a whole paragraph of creative fiction about her sex life and then conclude all women must be like that. But, you can make general observations about patterns of female (or male) behavior. Obviously women aren't a monolith, but recognizing patterns of behavior is still useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:24 AM
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I'm not misquoting anything. I'm pointing out that there are numerous studies that suggest married women are happier than single women. The comparison I'm making is between married and single women, so it's irrelevant that men seek therapy and antidepressants less. That doesn't necessarily mean single women would be happier if they got married. It could just be that happy women are more likely to get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:56 AM
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My gf thinks reddit is boring. She would probably confused why I bother talking to the insane people on here. Regarding my views on dating dynamics: we mostly agree, so I can't imagine she would have a strong reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:01 AM
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Do it in the heat of the moment, when you're already both naked and making out leading up to sex. Just say: "sit on my face!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:49 AM
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That has to be the dumbest way to get CTE...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:45 AM
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It's also not popular to write articles about the women that are single by choice and sad about it. Studies show that married women use antidepressants and commit suicide significantly less than single women, but you would never know it from all the articles about how much women love being single. The choice for these women is often to be in a relationship with a man they have no attraction to, get played by the men they actually want, or stay single. So many choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:43 AM
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Its just a valueable early lesson that people like to say empty platitudes that should be ignored. Obviously, some women are more beautiful than others. Obviously, well applied makeup will make any woman look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:37 PM
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Some basic precautions are certainly justified, and I wouldn't fault women for taking them, but the vast majority of men arent creeps or rapists. You think that for every normal guy like you there are 5 men that would SA a woman?! Most women interact with thousands of men, they aren't being harassed by the overwhelming majority of them, but the few creeps are obviously going to be more memorable. If that makes her have a hatred for men, that's her problem and I wouldn't date a woman like that. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:28 PM
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I've never went on a second date with a woman I felt was grilling me. I'm on a date to have fun not feel like I'm at a job interview at some soulless corporation. Talk about your passions, shared interests, interesting things you've done, funny anecdotes. Ask them about theirs. You're not in a rush. If you just chat with someone for a few hours they will reveal a lot about themselves. If you put them at ease you will find out more than if you try grilling them. Having a couple drinks helps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:00 PM
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Post a Pic of yourself so we can figure out if your standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:22 AM
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Its more that having money can help you become more attractive in other ways. Getting in shape is a lot easier when you can afford a personal trainer and a high protein diet that actually tastes good. Same for dressing well. Bad teeth? Bad hair? You can fix that! You're more likely to have an interesting, fun personality if you can afford expensive hobbies and travel. Also taking a girl back to your downtown penthouse is going to work better than commuting back to the basement you rent in the su…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:51 PM
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I live in a very fit city, so I just instinctively assume most younger people are in decent shape. Currently sitting in an American airport and am reminded how shockingly out of shape the average american is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:28 AM
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The ones bitching about their life are just more noticeable. I'm very happy with my relationship and my life in general. If it stops working for me, then I will absolutely adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:22 PM
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I wouldn't like that. I would like us to discuss something as important as marriage beforehand. If we both agree we want to get married, then I will propose. Her proposing to me feels like a performative inversion of gender roles, which I don't like. Luckily my girl feels the same way. She would be appalled by the idea of her doing the proposing, even more than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:49 AM
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You definitely want a woman to show some effort to date you. When I met my girlfriend I deliberately made our first date close to my place and far from her's to see if she would come all the way to see me. She did, and I was happy to pay for the date. When I think of pick-me behaviour I think of women that fake their interests and beliefs because they think it will make them more appealing to men. Those women are usually crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:29 PM
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Spending too much effort early on courting means having less time and energy left over to actually make yourself more atttactive, which is going to yield better results. Sure, courting can be an effective strategy if she already kinda likes you, but just needs that extra little boost to get her in the mood. In the majority of cases, though she's just not that interested. Or sometimes she's very interested and something more low key will be enough. Spending too much effort on courting early on ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:45 PM
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That's why generic advice doesn't always work. For everyone. I wouldnt call any young guy with more than 2 hours of free time a day a deadbeat, though. Juggling med school and a job is hardly the standard experience of a younger guy. In your case probably try chatting up chicks in your program. Its med school, so should be lots of women, and realistically schoolnis going to be taking up most of ypur time. If you have time to spare work of your fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:54 AM
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That's good advice, actually. You should be taking advice from women that arent better looking than you, but have the dating life you want. What the fuck do I know about how to get a man? I can share my perspective, but when it comes to actionable advice always ask the succesful fisherman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:42 AM
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The best advice is from dudes that aren't any taller, richer, or naturally better looking than you, but have the dating life you wish you had. Chads are playing on easy mode, so they don't know. Women give advise on how they wish Chad would treat them. But the absolute worst advice is from decent looking guys that always have bad experiences with women. A lot of red pill influencers fall into this category. Bro! You're tall, fit, rich, and you just got cheated on by a 40 year old single mom or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:38 AM
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My experience with pick-me girls is that they are full of drama and insecurities that they let fly as soon as they get the attention and validation they crave. From what I hear from women, simps are often the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:26 AM
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They will ignore each other and continue simping/pick-meing for people way out of their leagues that are clearly not that into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:20 AM
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I orgasm most of the time, but not all of the time. If I already came recently, if we're using condoms, or a lot of alcohol is involved it makes it less likely for me. I communicate pretty often. I will tell her or I will physically put her into the position I want. I also try to predict her desires. I always extend foreplay and usually go down on her beforehand, because I know most women don't want PIV right away, which would have been my preference. If I suspect she didn't come before me I wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:07 PM
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That's also what a lot of women are into. The women I've been with that were good at communicating what they wanted and were more likely to orgasmas a result usually wanted PIV to be a big part of it and often had some form of submission kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:28 PM
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If the lower their standards sufficiently? Absolutely!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:03 AM
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Ok, I believe you! If your friend told you his girlfriend really liked you, but still felt comfortable having you hang out with his her while he's gone you must be ugly. Social skills and the ability to flirt are still important, and as such are very useful concepts. Not as important as physical attraction, but still important. Social skills relies on following specific norms for what is expected in specific situations, and intuition to read what someone else would be receptive to. You can't giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:36 AM
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Highly populated, high cost of living, left leaning. Most of them are either immigrants or kids of immigrants from all over the world
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:59 PM
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Big city in North America
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:54 PM
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About half are single. I wouldn't know how often they are having sex, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:51 PM
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A 17 year old is being over dramatic? Shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:29 PM
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In your hypothetical: if there are 20:1 women and most get pregnant from sperm donors, those few male donors will father all children. Therefore males would be, on average, 20x more likely to produce offspring. As a result the evolutionary pressure would cause more males and the ratio would correct itself. There's actually many species where a small number of males impregnates the majority of females. Dominant male Walruses for example frequently have a harem of over 20 females, but the gender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:14 PM
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There are lots of things that are subject to natural selection that we actively fight against to make people's lives better. Natural selection says if you're a weak baby, you should die, but we medically intervene to reduce our infant mortality to almost 0. Evolutionarily, If you're past your reproductive years there isn't a point for you live much longer, so most humans would die off before they reached 60. But we still give give granny medications and surgery to help her live longer. Why shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:51 PM
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The mythical 5'11 guy doesn't exist. If you ask them, they're all 6'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:00 PM
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If all these unattractive guys are with atttactive women, then what are the unattractive women doing? Are they dating men much more atttactive then themselves? Do you think there is a female loneliness epidemic? Or do you just rate average women as atttactive and average men as unattractive. My guess is that last one. There's plenty of single bluepill guys struggling to date out there, but if you go to niche online communities of people discussing dating you will find a disproportionate number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:50 PM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:03 AM
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They aren't men. Why would you expect them to succeed as men? There are plenty of men that are successful with women, though, so maybe focus on emulating them instead. As fo women making fun of you "getting no bitches": women will chirp and shit test you. You have to learn to not let it get to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:41 PM
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The whiners were always here, but there used to be more "own your shit" focus on taking action red pillers calling out the ones bitching and moaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:36 PM
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Many women are "app brained": They're addicted to the constant attention from hundreds of new guys. Many of them very attractive and charismatic fuckboys. The good news is most single women arent even active on the apps. Meeting a woman offline or one that is repulsed by the wall of generic fuckboys on the apps still works. Or at least it did when I was last single 3 years ago. I doubt things changed that much since then. All you have to do is clear the looks threshold, appear genuine and have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:57 AM
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City
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:27 AM
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Left my home country for college. Never went back for more than a few weeks. One of my cousins recently got drafted. Another had to risk his life escaping. I'm pretty sure I made the right decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:25 AM
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In my experience, formerly promiscuous women being shunned for marriage is just a revenge fantasy. Unless she lives in a small town and doesnt want to move away, guys have no way of knowing a woman's past, and all that experience will make her better at attracting and vetting men. The biggest sluts I knew from high school are all married. Most of the "good girls" had a harder time. The main reason promiscuous men aren't shamed as much is because most women arent as into casual sex as most men, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:18 AM
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Obviously they aren't winning moves. Lol. Luckily I was never that clueless. But if the guys was good-looking enough they would still have had success with some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:11 AM
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Why do you have such a degrading view of countries that are less developed in America I don't. I'm from a country like that. They're not that different from America. Just poorer. every man who is an International Dater is dating a gold digger Not all of them, but most are. Certainly the ones that don't also do well in their home country where they don't have the advantage of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:01 AM
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all women cost money to date There's a big difference between between buying her a drink and paying for her whole lifestyle. Goldiggers absolutely exist. They're women that go for men they otherwise wouldnt be attracted to because they will fund her lifestyle. When I was a broke college kid I would go for drinks with a girl, split the bill and go back to her place, cause I couldn't afford both tabs and didn't have any privacy at my place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:58 AM
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The only part that's an actual hurdle is having the money to afford it. Most western countries have automatic visas on arrival to most other countries. Looking up the exchange rate takes seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:53 AM
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"Dating" a local gold digger isn't all that different from sex tourism. If you fund her lifestyle she will even tell you she loves you! I'm from a popular sex tourist destination. I knew girls that dated passport bros. None of them had any respect for these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:48 AM
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takes lots of planning and strategic execution. Not really. Just take some time off and book a flight to a poorer country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:45 AM
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As someone also from a country that was a big passport bro destination: this is very true. Also the local women that go for these dudes arent all that different from American prostitutes and gold diggers. Passport bros can just afford 3rd world gold diggers while they couldn't afford American ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:39 AM
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In general, take all advice with a grain of salt. Observe other people irl and try different approaches yourself. If what you're currently doing isn't working, try something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:46 PM
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You can do a lot for your face too. It's amazing what a good haircut, well groomed facial hair and a skin care routine can do. Lowering your body fat percentage also makes your jaw more defined which looks good on any man. Most men still won't look like Henry Cavil, but most can get to be at least a bit above average. If they also dress well and are fit they can be well above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:41 PM
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Interesting observation I just made at the gym: Girls follow the same order for filling up treadmills as guys do with urinals. 1-furthest 2-closest 3-middle 4-any that leave a gap on both sides 5-any remaining machines
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:37 AM
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A lot of the guys here have no experience with women, so they fantasize about a woman that always wants to spend time with them. That shit gets old real fast. You want a woman that enjoyes spending time with you but also has other shit going on in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:56 PM
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Only men without options would get into a relationship with just any decent woman. Men can have high standards too if they can afford to have them. Especially when it comes to more than just a casual hookup. The thing about finding the best person "for you" is that most people like similar things. It isn't a coincidence that the man you thought was a perfect unique fit for you also had no trouble getting women to sleep with him before you. Most of the guys you rejected on those 100 other dates w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:06 PM
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Sounds pretty standard in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:57 PM
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That's fair. And I agree calling someone immature for responsibly enjoying their hobby seems a little... immature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:50 PM
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Let's not be dramatic. Most women have bot given up dating men. The problem here is that most good, attractive, relationship focused men and women get into relationships relatively quickly and stay in those relationships for a while. The people that are constantly searching for something and always end up back on rhe market often have issues that cause this. If nost of the men you interact with are through dating, it's understandable you eill encou ter a lot of bad men. Especially if you aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:00 PM
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I haven't met many gen z or younger millennial women that care about their man playing video games sometimes. It's more of a problem if it's a hobby the guy devotes most of his time to and she doesn't share in. It's not necessarily immature, but it would be a relationship incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:53 PM
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Happily in a long term relationship. I would describe myself as partially red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:13 PM
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In my mind Christmas doesn't end until after new years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:01 PM
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Attractive men are attractive to older and younger women. Unattractive men are usually not attractive to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:42 PM
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How do I tell her I'm autistic. Don't. At least not early on. If she's into you she might interpret your autistic behaviour as ypu just being a little quirky. Putting a label on it makes is seem like a big deal. How do I determine her interest? Flirt and gradually escalate if she doesn't pull back. Eventually it will become obvious if she's into you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:03 PM
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I should tell my buddy that's been with his chick for 4 years and lives with her that they technically arent in a relationship because they never had the "what are we" talk. I'm sure it would go over well if he uses that as an excuse to hook up with other women. Most healthy relationships dont have a lot of sacrifices that are needed. Especially not in the first few months. The first few months of every serious relationship I had were mostly hping on dates, hanging out together and having a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:53 PM
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Call me a prude, but I prefer one woman at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:39 PM
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If the first woman loves me, I would think she would treat me better. If she's often cold or disrespectful I would doubt she really is madly in love with me. If I am forced to pick one, I would pick the second one just because I can't deal with that much drama in my life, but in reality I know I can find better than either of those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:47 PM
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I doubt Henry Cavil couldn't get easy casual sex if that's all he wanted, but he still gets into relationships with women. It should be obvious most men are interested in more than just sex, because most men that are handsome/rich/famous enough to have unlimited, no strings attached sex still form serious relationships with women, and do more with these women than just have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:40 PM
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Submissive, follower women. Single guys often fantasize about a woman that happily does all the things her man wants to do, but submissive people still have their desires and preferences, they just expect others to figure out how to meet them. It can be exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:02 PM
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I didn't say they were good people either, I said adults are often encouraged to be passive and agreeable because that makes them easier to deal with, not because it makes them more moral or successful. There's a big difference between kids being a little bad sometimes and doing whatever the fuck they want. It's healthy for kids to push boundaries a little. I don't think they should have no discipline at all, though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:28 PM
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So you're not denying that they finish last, just confirming that being too agreeable is a disadvantage for adult men. I agree with that. I would even go further and say it's not better for the kids that are too obedient either. The kids that are a little bad get to do more fun stuff, not just what they're allowed to. It's just easier to control "good" kids. This is also true for adults: from Christianity praising being meek and humble as virtues to feminists drilling into men all the ways they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:03 PM
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Only if it was in use for decades, and there were decent longitudinal studies demonstrating it doesn't have any significant side effects. I'm not being a guinea pig for new untested procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:07 PM
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I don't get to travel or eat by paying for her trips and meals. I get to do that by paying for my own. But, yes, If I am spending money on a woman, and I don't get anything out of it, I'm not going to keep doing it. When I want to give money purely altruistically, I give it to someone truly in need.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:54 PM
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Go for it, but not immediately. Flirt heavily and escalate. Maybe go out for drinks first, then come back to the room after
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:58 PM
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Actually it's: "Let's meet up in a hotel room 18 weeks from now and not have sex" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:09 PM
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If she's waiting a few months to see you she can't be that interested. Letting you know she's used to guys spending on her, but she is making an exception for you is just a tactic to get you to pay for more stuff without feeling like you're hiring a sugarbaby. Telling you she's not going to have sex early is just so she doesn't feel pressured in case the chemistry isn't there. Definitely still flirt and escalate. Don't get your hopes too high. She's might be working a dozen guys like you. There'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:55 PM
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I would disagree that there is 0 correlation. If you're fantasizing about something you must desire it on some level. But in real life there are other consequences that might prevent someone from engaging in that fantasy. Often just that you can't "turn off" the experience when you aren't interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:32 PM
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I would say the bigger issue in this example is people using unusual anecdotes as evidence for their narrative. Men murdering their coworkers is so rare we should just dismiss it as an extreme outlier. It is not something women or men need to be worried about. Statistically, men murder other men at a much higher rate than women, so it doesn't really matter if this particular deranged individual would have attacked another man and if that man might have successfully defended himself or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 06:10 AM
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It depends on how much of an age gap. 40 year olds dating 20 year olds is difficult. 40 year olds dating 30 year olds isn't, provided you stayed on top of your fitness. Unless you go for way younger women most people irl already don't care. I started dating my gf when I was 33 and she was 24. Never experienced any significant backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:20 PM
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It depends on what you mean by being cruel towards them. I wouldn't get into a relationship with an ex sex worker, but otherwise, I wish them the best. It seems like that's the most common attitude men have towards them. Men don't owe women a relationship anymore than women owe men one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:52 AM
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That seems like a lot of work. It's easier and more rewarding to put that effort into working on yourself so you are "him" Sure, don't expect every womam to sleep with you within an hour of meeting her, but actively "sourcing" women you are then maintaining a loose friendship with on the off chance she will get bored and decide to fick you is not a great use of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:39 PM
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Obviously looks matters, but the ability to flirt and not come across as weird or awkward helps a lot too. The reason it's difficult to give instructions is because a lot of social skills are based on instinct. It's knowing how to react to subtle cues, and having a feeling for how something you say might be percieved in the moment. Givung somwone flirting instructions is like giving them instructions on how to throw a basketball: it will help a little, but most of it is going to be the hand eye …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:36 PM
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Someone's past behaviour is the best indicator of their future. If a woman has been incapable of staying committed to a guy more than a few months, she probably isn't good wife material. Similarly, if she has substance abuse or mental health problems in her past, there's a serious risk these issues will rear their head again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:03 PM
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No one starts in a relationship, even if that's your goal. You have to first find and attract the right person. Being successful, and fit helps with that a lot, especially if you want attractive women. Making sure she's invested in you and physically attracted to you before you commit to her too much is also important. Guys that want relationships and follow typical women's advice on how to treat a woman right is very likely to end up sinping for a girl that isn't as invested in them. Or he won'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:22 PM
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It can just be a shaming tactic, but also not all young women are some catch. An older guy getting fleeced by a younger sugar baby is probably still a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:29 PM
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As an avid reader myself: there is nothing inherently good about reading books, if you only read garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:14 PM
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"An indicator of intelligence and curiosity" Let's not go overboard. Reading smut doesn't make you smart. It's no better or worse than men jacking it to wierd porn. We should let people enjoy their smut/porn and power fantasy fiction. Just be aware that overconsumption of it can stunt you irl social development.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:11 PM
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If it's a gf, then my brother If it's a wife, then her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:19 AM
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No. I don't understand why people think so much about what their twilight years will be like: being really old sucks no matter what. You don't have the energy for the things you used to enjoy, something always hurts, and you have a real risk of not even being cognitively present. I would much rather focus my efforts on living a fulfilling life while I can, and not worry too much about my old age. Also, I have many fulfilling relationships in my life, and will likely have kids eventually, so I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:14 AM
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The 4b movement is mostly cope by lonely women that can't attract the kinds of men they want. Not something to be emulated. The word "simp" has become so overused, it's basically meaningless. If making an effort to be attractive to a woman that also makes an effort for me makes me a simp, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:19 PM
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Completely embodying any one of the categories is not healthy. Most men could use being more self reliant and less needy, but we are social creatures, and it's healthy to want relationships and let people into our lives we depend on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:44 PM
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They definitely exist, i've been in relationships with such women. but they usually want their man to be assertive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:34 PM
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Take advice from men that are successful with women, but don't have an innate advantage that would make it easy. Yes, rich, handsome guys usually do well, but plenty of average guys do alright as well those are the ones you should take advice from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:26 PM
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The media went too far making fun of her as much as they did, so I feel a little bad for her, but she did blow her married boss at work. If you cant handle the fallout don't be such a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:22 PM
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Success can definitely cultivate feelings of confidence, but confidence can also be faked. It's better to be unsuccessful and pretend to be confident than to be unsuccessful and wallow in your insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:13 PM
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Grad school cares. Also, if you aren't learning anything you find interesting or useful in your degree why bother with it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:38 AM
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By women? Definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:35 AM
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Until you have had the exclusivity talk they are fine to multidate, and many do. You can argue this isn't the healthiest approach, but it is the norm now. If a woman is really into you, she will prioritize spending time with you, but you srill have to escalate and make it happen. If she's stringing you along to go on dates with other guys ypu probably didn't hit it off as well as you thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:24 AM
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Men that don't know you well will naturally be slow to trust you. That's natural of strangers. If you demonstrate integrity, then over time you can build that trust Also, ideally, you would have some moral principles that you would adhere to, even if you don't get explicitly rewarded for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:20 PM
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Most women I have interacted with don't have this negative attitude towards healthy male sexuality. So it has been easy for me to disregard the few terminally online wierdos that think just talking to a strange woman is assault and fantasizing about her is practically rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:16 PM
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That looks so much like my girl and her best friend I had to do a double take. Same height difference too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:31 AM
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Out of those two: option 1. But more commonly he would pick option 3: A woman in her mid 20's who is attractive, fun and pleasant to be around. Has an education, but in a less lucrative field. Doesn't embarrass him at work parties and family gatherings. Is fairly intelligent and has opinions, but isn't abrasive and confrontational with them. This is also the woman I picked irl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:00 PM
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Same!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:49 AM
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Sometimes. Often she is just cockblocking, though. Somehow if you have a friend hit on the ugly friend too she doesnt get the super secret signal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:52 PM
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Yes, appearing "as least interested as possible" is not a good strategy, but you can definitely hurt your chances by coming on too strong. Don't be afraid to talk to women, but when it comes to demonstrating your interest it's best to escalate one step at a time and give her the opportunity to demonstrate her interest too. If she has no interest in you, then being a simp is just a waste of your time. She will only treat you as a doormat and a free source of validation. The best move is to move o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:00 PM
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I think it should be legal, because adults should be allowed to legally make decisions about their own bodies. But people need to be realistic about the fact that it's not going to fundamentally change society. Many western countries already have legal, and reasonably affordable prostitution. Most men still don't see prostitutes, because they want a woman that genuinely cares about them and desires them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:51 PM
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Don't worry about the massive government overreach! Just focus on Tylenol instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:36 PM
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When I was last single at 33 I found women around my age and a little older either didn't want kids or (understandably) were in a rush for the relationship to progress to marriage and children ASAP. Neither option particularly appealed to me, as I want kids with a woman I have a chance to get to know well first. If I didn't want kids I would have been open to dating a woman in her mid 30's
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:36 AM
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I'm b irl. It's not too bad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:05 PM
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It depends on how good your baseline "game" is. The difference between being autisticly weird and "normal" is huge. The difference between having decent social skills and "great game" isn't that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:29 AM
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Rape fantasies are to actual rape what combat video games are to getting drafted to fight in real war: It can be fun to play pretend with some darker themes, but it has very little to do with the real thing. Regarding people telling you that rough sex is mostly a male kink: they did mislead you there. Statistlucly, and in my personal experience, things like choking and CNC are mostly female kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:15 AM
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Having a solid support system is underrated, especially when you have kids. But it doesn't just need to be the wife's mom. Not all women have a great relationship with their mom, and even if they do, not all grandmas want to be very involved in raising their grandkids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:45 PM
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Being fun and not taking herself too seriously is very important. Being funny in the sense of having a good sense of humor and having great comedic timing is a plus, but not as essencial. My gf is both of these. I would say she's in the top 5% of funniest women. I pay for more stuff because I make substantially more. She does most of the household chores, though. Probably about an 80/20 split on both finances and housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:11 PM
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In modern Western societies situations where women are disadvantaged are often viewed as examples of patriarchy and there is a push from "woke" people to rectify these issues. Situations where women are advantaged are presented as a win for women struggling against the odds, or an example of how men need to get their shit together and get over their own issues. As a result, if you only look at mainstream, left leaning, discourse you get a one sided picture. Women are supposedly mistreated in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 01:24 AM
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I suspect many men here are autistic and underestimate how important at least average social skills are for men in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:15 PM
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Everyone desires hot people. That's not what hypergamy means. (Yes, I am aware some redpillers misuse it in this way)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 06:12 AM
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0-10 drinks. Depends on the week
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:48 PM
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Thats why you just shoot your shot and don't over think it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:27 AM
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You don't have to cry about it. The guy was an asshole. But the people that gloat and cheer about a man being murdered are also disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:14 PM
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It will compensate, but it won't negate it. If you're short and ugly you have to go for short ugly chicks. If you're fit and put yourself out there you will have a shot with them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:28 AM
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only a minority of men, regardless of looks, is "approaching" women. Sounds like another "lever" for men to press. Most people are awkward at first, but with practice most can learn to strike up a simple conversation. You don't have to be very charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 03:10 AM
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That's great! Do you earn about the same too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:50 PM
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It sucks, but if you really are both ugly and autistic that makes you probably in the bottom 2% of men in terms of overall attractiveness. Are you approaching the bottom 2% of women or average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:09 PM
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Not automatically, but generally most masculine features and traits are seen as more attractive by most women. Being unkept or smelling bad isn't attractive to anyone, though. I'm not sure it's necessarily masculine, but It's definitely not effective at getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:30 PM
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If transit is at least close to as fast as cars, people will put up with crazies. Just look at New York. The issue is that most US cities have garbage transit that takes forever, while investing heavily into road infrastructure making cars by far the faster option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:18 PM
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I haven't met any. I suspect most of those are either not socializing and putting themselves out there enough, or they are well below average and don't realise it. Being autistic, for example, automatically makes you below average, which I suspect many men here struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:15 PM
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Get fit, get a good enough job to afford your own place, regularly go out and socialize with new people, and approach women. Any man can pull these levers and get at least their equivelant. The problem is that many men don't want to do the work, or they are so far below average that their equivelant options still arent great. "But women don't have to do all this work! Why do I have to?!" - because life's not fair. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:04 PM
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You look like a good joe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:40 PM
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Bond should be denied to people with extensive history of violence and severe mental health issues regardless of if they have the money to pay or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:15 PM
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What's wierd to me is that the US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, but a guy with 14 violent offenses in his past and awaiting trial for another one gets to roam free? Who are all these people y'all are keeping in prison, if not this guy? Cashless bond is fine, but you shouldn't get it if you are deemed dangerous, which this guy absolutely should have been. That's how it is in europe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:04 PM
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It's true that there are very few woman willing to be the sole breadwinner for a stay at home dad. Society also heavily stigmatizes this arrangement: people will accuse you of being a deadbeat for not having a job and your wife of being a neglectful mother for not seeing the kids enough. However, you can still be a family oriented man, and have a job. Plenty of women are willing to work and share the child rearing with their husband. Having a dual income also makes it so you don't have to work c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:56 PM
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It depends on the woman and what she's looking for.If she gets extremely attached after sex, or if she's very religious, then waiting a long time makes sense. If she just wants something purely physical, 0-1 dates is plenty. In general, for most western women that arent very religious and are looking for a relationship: 3-6 is good. It gives her time to get to know the guy a bit, but also won't weed out most relationship focused guys, and let's her avoid wasting too much time if it turns out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:22 PM
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I've had situations where I chatted up a woman way out of my league that I thought I had no chance with and she just happened to be looking for someone to smash that night. Never underestimate the power of being in the right place at the right time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:44 PM
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If her husband believes this he will fall for anything! Is she also a Nigerian princess?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:31 PM
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In general people that are capable of standing up for themselves and pushing for what they want tend to do better in life than pushovers and people-pleasers, which is what "nice guys" usually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:26 PM
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Many guys want an equal romantic relationship where their girl is about invested in the relationship as he is, and does about as much to impress him as he does to impress her. When men say they don't want to be a "dancing monkey" or a "beta bux" they mean they want a relationship that isn't one sided. Which is perfectly reasonable. For most people sex is an essencial part of romantic relationships, but it's not the only part of a relationship men care about. Pointing out that they also care abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:20 PM
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That's the actual definition, but redditors will often use it to mean "women being attracted to physically attractive men" which is stupid because literally everyone is attracted to attractive people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:22 PM
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Right? This new reddit definition of hypergamy is so stupid. Who the fuck isn't attracted to attractive people? Hypergamy means going after guys with social status and/or money, often instead of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:19 PM
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The billionaires in women's romance stories are all hot, though. No one is fantasizing about Elon Musk or Cheryl Sandberg. Plenty of guys have crushes on famous actresses or singers, but it's more to do with their looks than them being rich or famous. If Syndey Sweeney went bankrupt guys would still be into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:09 PM
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This is like refusing to work on your career because trust fund kids are rich without having to work. Life isn't fair. Acting like you got fucked over because you aren't in the minority that were born rich or handsome isn't going to get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:56 PM
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My sister grew from 5'4 to 5'6 in the past year. She's 22! I'm legitimately worried. Before this past year she hadn't grown at all since she was like 15. Any women here experience something like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:27 AM
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Probably because it's not common enough to be a real threat. Some guys do seem threatened by women going after tall or rich men, because that does happen a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:00 AM
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Another reason they do this is that it's something they aren't personally into and feel their preferences must be universal. Any woman behaving differently must have been manipulated or pressured in some way. This is the same view many seem to have of adult women that want to be trad wives or are into kinky sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:43 AM
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I've known a couple women that did that, as well as a younger guy into older women. I never felt there was anything wrong with it, and have never seen anyone make a big deal of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:37 AM
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i dont beleive you. Why? Because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions of red leaning men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:30 AM
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So these women you went out with still spilt and payed, still had passionate sex with you while you were brok Some did, some didn't. what happen to women are all gold diggers, b*tches and hoes. I never claimed they were Im willing to bet your still single Actually, I'm happily in a relationship. Good thing you didn't make that bet
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:59 PM
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A big problem with dating older people is that most are already in long term relationships, or have given up and are enjoying being single. The ones that are perpetually looking for something, but somehow keep ending up single usually have issues that cause this. The majority of older women don't have a ton of baggage or unreasonably high expectations, and they are also in relationships, so you don't even see them when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:34 PM
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It depends on the woman's height a lot too. A 5'9 woman isn't picking the 5'6 guy even if he has a 10/10 face. If she's 5'0 then even a 5'6 guy is tall to her, so face and fitness will matter a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:01 PM
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Also, in most cases these women do, in fact, find boyfriends they are attracted to. So there's even less incentive ncentive for them to go for guys they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:04 AM
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"Hey bby want sum fukk? Send noods!" ... Why are women annoyed when I try to flirt with them!?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:58 AM
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I'm sure what you describe happens, but I have personally never seen it. The cases I've seen were more normal reciprocal friendships, and they distanced themselves after being rejected. It's not just guys either. I lost a good female friend this way. She developed feelings, I didn't feel the same, and she distanced herself. She didn't give me a long spiel about how there was no pressure, though. She arranged a hangout that was in a romantic setting and tried to turn it into a date. It became awk…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:56 PM
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It doesn't have to be gendered. I lost a good female friend this way. She developed feelings, I rejected her, and she distanced herself. I don't think that meant she didn't care about how I feel at all. Obviously, I missed my friend, but I understood that she needed to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:45 PM
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That's spineless behavior. If they had feelings from the start: I totally agree with you. It's spineless, and counterproductive If they developed feelings later, made their move, and chose to distance themselves after being rejected: that's just an unfortunate situation, and nobody is at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:35 PM
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Yes, this is no different from platonic friends drifting apart because one of them developed different interests. They used to enjoy each other's company, but now they don't because one of them changed and the other didn't. If they both changed together it wouldn't have been a problem. It's unfortunate, but no is at fault. It's just a normal part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:30 PM
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Friendships don't need to be an exercise in self sacrifice. You don't have to stay friends if you can no longer enjoy their company. It's normal for friendships to end sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:06 PM
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I'm sure gay people have to just deal with crushes among friends if they want to have friends. It's less of a problem for straight people because we can just go be friends with our own gender. But the gay friend groups I knew all had tons of drama resulting from people developing feelings and dating within the friend group. Romantic closeness is more than platonic friendship and isn't just sex. If my girlfriend treated me like a platonic bff whenever we weren't having sex I would be miserable. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:48 PM
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People can, and should end friendships where there is unrequited love, but that doesn't mean they were faking being friends. People often fall for their friends, or they have romantic feelings for someone which makes them want to spend time with that person, but are too nervous to make a move so they fall into a friendship instead. Continuing to be friends when you want more can be painful and distance is usually the best way to get over a crush. Also having romantic feelings can mean more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:20 PM
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They dress to attract the guys they are attracted to. The guys being called creeps are the ones they aren't attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:08 PM
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I almost never approached a woman thinking it would definitely just be a hookup. I'm open to the possibility that it will be more serious, but then as I get to know her I might decide that this isn't a girl I would want to seriously date. Would still sometimes try to smash, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:44 PM
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In the far far future? Why not? Think about how insane our technology is to someone from just 200 years ago. In another 200 years something like a self sustained space habitat will be trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:37 PM
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The resources are finite, but how we utilize them is not. Humans are less overpopulated now than we have been in thousands of years. Even though our population has never been higher we can make better use of the resources we have. Long term we can eventually colonize space. Larger population means faster technological advancement too. We also don't need rapid population growth, just avoiding a decline would be perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:03 AM
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I'm aware. What's that have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:35 PM
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Sure, we should close tax loopholes that allow billionaires to pay less taxes, but people need to be realistic about the fact that this isn't going to solve all our tax revenue problems. There are 2871 billionaires on earth with a combined net worth of 14.2 trillion. This isn't their income it's wealth accumulated over a lifetime or even mutiple generations. If we took all their wealth and distribute it equally, it works out to a one time payout of $1740 for each of the 8.1 billion people on ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:32 PM
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It's not a problem of capitalism. It's simply a matter of the ratio of people contributing to society vs relying on support from it. Productivity gains and automation can improve our standards of living or we can use this extra productivity to support a declining population at current or reduced standards. We don't even need continued population growth for our current system to work well (although that would be nice) we can have a stable population. Unfortunately, the world seems to be headed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:13 PM
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Declining birth rates and longer life expectancy thanks expensive medical interventions means there are fewer working age people supporting more elderly people. This problem isn't tied to any particular economic system. It would persist in any social utopia you can envision. The world is less overpopulated now than it has been in millenia, because unlike previous centuries we have technology to support this higher population. Having a larger population and a growing economy increases the rate of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:18 PM
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I mean men and women explicitly trade sex for money. It's called prostitution. It's a bit more expensive than dinner at a midrange restaurant, but not astronomically high either. But I do agree that people trying to find a genuine romantic connection shouldn't be viewing it in such cold, utilitarian terms. Just because he payed doesn't mean she owes him sex, but also unless it's explicitly agreed upon he isn't obligated to pay for her dinner. I usually pay for dates, but when I was broke I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:42 PM
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If I had my exact brain I would be a butch lesbian powerlifter and would look for a nice femme girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:53 PM
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Romance is more than just sex. Cuddling someone you care about romanticly is a level of closeness you don't get to experience with friends. That's why many describe not having that as loneliness. If there is nothing in relationships you miss other than sex, then maybe you just don't experience that feeling, in which case I feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:12 PM
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If it's a well structured and thoughy out comment, I don't mind if it's long, but some are more like schizophrenic ramblings
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:47 PM
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It's not more morally wrong, but it does effect their dating prospects more because men care about it more. Justifications for why that's the case are mostly irrelevant. It's the same with all the gendered preferences: "Having a good career should make a woman just as attractive as it does a man!" - maybe, but it doesn't "Men age just as badly as women and are just as likely to have baggage" - OK, but women their age and a bit younger still prefer them over younger men. "It's shouldn't matter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:26 PM
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Red pill isn't a life philosophy. It's being realistic about heterosexual dating dynamics. That's it. Helping men with their mental health struggles, their careers, or whatever else is out of scope. There are also grifters in the community that make money by giving unsuccessful and often mentally ill men bullshit advice. That is wrong, but most redpillers already denounce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:14 AM
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On average mid 30's guys that have stayed on top of their fitness and career do have it easier, but guys that slacked in one or both of these are fucked. If we take the US: median annual income for men 25-35 is 50k and men 35-44 is 69k. So a 35 year old is probably pulling about 60-65k. Median BMI for American men in their 30's is 30.4. A borderline obese man making 65k isn't pulling hot 25 year olds. And half of them are worse off than that. To compare like to like: 35 year old gym bunny women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:09 AM
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I agree that ending up in a relationship where you are there to serve her and she feels comfortable to mistreating you is a bad spot to be in . Even though she gets more out of it and has to give less, she will lose respect for you and this will hurt the relationship long term. Becoming a doormat is always a losing strategy. But well adjusted, attractive women won't tolerate being treated as the backup option for long either. If you want something serious with a woman, my advice would be to trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:43 PM
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The reason surrogacy is so expensive is because the woman has to give up the baby after. Women that want to be mothers get pregnant for free, so the market rate of pregnancy that leads to motherhood is $0. Of course, the business analogy for romantic relationships tends to fall apart pretty quickly. People that love each other don't think about it that way, and attraction or potential resentment are considerations that don't exist in a one off business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:49 PM
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Grow old together as opposed to grow old alone. Staying young forever would be ideal, but it's not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:36 PM
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Wigs and extensions is an easy way to have a new interesting hairstyle without waiting to grow out your hair, or damaging it with coloring etc. Also black hair is harder to work with, especially if she wants straight hair sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:13 PM
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Cuddling is a romantic thing. For someone that always accuses men of being sex obsessed you seem to have no concept of romantic closeness that isn't sex. Good relationships have both and most men would be unfulfilled if they only had one, and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:05 PM
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Na, I don't like 'em that thicc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:44 AM
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They bring it up because incels are often accused of being unable to get laid because they're misogynistic assholes, when it's really because they are unattractive and socially awkward. Some are assholes, some aren't, but it's not why they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:05 AM
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Even young women appreciate kind men, but it doesn't negate their other preferences. They want a man that's handsome, masculine, fun, and also kind, if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:00 AM
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Left. Guess I'm low IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:05 AM
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Most women generally want a man they are attracted to that is fun, competent, isn't a pushover, and is also kind. You need to meet the other criteria first for the kindness to matter though. Many unsuccessful men mistake kindness for spinelessness or assume that being genuinely kind can make up for lacking in the other areas. It cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:00 AM
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If you are willing to take on more of the masculine role in your relationship then it's perfectly reasonable to expect her to cook. However if a woman is working similar hours, and bringing in similar money, it's reasonable for the man to also pull his weight in the domestic tasks, since he's not fulfilling his traditional masculine role as a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:50 AM
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If you're FWB, you sometimes hang out and occasionally vent about some issue one of you has. That's why it's called friends with benefits. Usually people in such arrangements will sometimes hang out outside of just fucking. A gf is a more serious relationship, that usually implies exclusivity, more time commitment and romantic feelings. It's perfectly valid to want a FWB and not a girlfriend. It's also fine to want a fuck buddy where you just fuck and don't spend any time together with clothes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:32 AM
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I've never heard a straight guy say vaginas are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 04:25 PM
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She doesn't need a nice ring, but most women want one. If you love her, and can afford it, why not spend a little extra on a ring she will enjoy wearing for the rest of her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:00 AM
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Its not a criminal investigation, though. The university doesn't charge anyone with a crime. It's a private institution reveiwing if they want to terminate their contract with the student, which is a much lower burden of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:19 PM
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Women can approach too, if they want. Men have to approach, or stay single. The women that do approach have a higher success rate than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:07 PM
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No. I'm from Odessa, but I left Ukraine many years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:51 PM
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