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Question For WomenNeverending_Danding/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:00 PM
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I'm talking strictly romantic intent. Of course i do talk with people with whom i'm strictly platonic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:05 PM
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Maybe it is, i don't know. I just assume if a girl don't approach me one her own, i wouldn't have any business approaching her anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:24 PM
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I'd much rather hear a honest "well, you are too ugly", than the "noooo, ANYYYYYY girl would be luckyyyy to have youuuuu, how can you be stil singleeee?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:59 AM
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I don't use online dating apps, because i don't have a face for them. Nowadays i just leave everything in hands of pure, dumb luck. After all "it will happen when you least expect it", rigth?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:42 AM
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I don't know. While i can fantasize about different women, or watch porn, i'm not doing it while in a relationship. I also cannot have sex outside of a relationship, because masturbating is one thing, but having sex with someone is super intimate for me. Physically and mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:35 AM
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He saw her on the beach and kidnapped her. then they fucked Cool. I saw porn movies with better plots then half of the romance novels
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:33 AM
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Can you please suggest some where a male character is normal person? Not 6'3 model looking, CEO, or son of billionaire. Let's say 5'6-5'7 dude, renting a room, working 9-5. Preferably the title that became bestseller or was on top of watchlists, and women were gushing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:54 PM
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You did it first here tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:27 PM
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What the fuck are you on, man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:16 PM
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So I read the title, immediately disagreed. Read first two paragraphs, changed my mind to agreeing, and then read the rest of the post and went back to disagreeing. Thanks for the roller coaster. > First of all, being friend with no purpose of dating anyone help you have clarity about how women think. Of course, there are some difference but a lot of men could better understand what it is to be a human being sharing a common ground with men and women. There are problem specific to one gender but…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:58 PM
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The women in their imaginary scenarios, with witch they can do some "gotcha" and paint men as rapists. Of course not all men, because they themselves are arbiters of morality and every woman wants to fuck them, and they ask themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:45 PM
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Riiiight....and this is a cheat code? This alone will get you women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:20 PM
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Ah, so you still will mock them, but to virtue signal, you'll say you'll be gentle. Got it Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:16 PM
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So still no real advice. And you call it a cheat code
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:49 PM
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And what's obvious to everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:46 PM
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Yes, "just be yourself" is definitely cheat code, lol Or "it will happen when you least expect it". Or "just be kind and treat them like human". All 10/10 cheat codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:35 PM
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agreeing with your feelings, I mean facts. Facts. Totally it's facts. This is a rational thing. No paranoia in sight I love when women shame men's feelings, to then turn around and say "men should be more vulnerable" or something along these lines
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:25 PM
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Another gal derailing conversation Where exactly i am shaming anybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:58 AM
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"The desperation to please women" and it's just a guy doing something that can be seen as attractive, or, in this case, not doing something that is seen as unattractive. Also, funnily enough, the most common advice for "being attractive to women" can be collectively put into "try to please them". Dude likes to wear height boosters, wigs and makeup? Go for it, if it makes you happy. Just know 99% of women will find it unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:44 AM
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And you will get no relationship to feel good in, if women are getting ick from your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:29 AM
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This is just "feel good" platitudes, that have no real weight in life whatsoever, especially if talking about relationships or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:11 AM
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It's this. Heels. Or thick insoles
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 AM
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So what? What would really be a difference, if these things would work for sex/relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 AM
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This is online. I probably saw same dude you saw, because his account is rather "famous" for it, but i also saw either his other reels, or other dudes showing it, and comment section was also full of women saying it's feminine. Plus, it is quite often, that women will say they like one thing "on men", just to actively dislike it on their man. Some just virtue signal for social points online. > There is also a make up artist that shows "male make up" tips. Like using concealer and filling in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:38 AM
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> It's more and more socially acceptable for men to take good care of their appearance I agree and i am very happy it's happening, but it's still seen as something that should be done behind closed doors and never should be even mentioned. Maybe it will change in few decades, i surely hope so. I know at least couple of dudes with hair transplants who, upon telling about it, got some nasty or funny comments from women. A hair transplant. Something that will just stay forever (presumably). And don…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 AM
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> If you were to decide to go the lifts route, which will be called out at some point, then don't use lifts. They make shoes meant to increase your height which are far harder to notice. Look into those instead. Very much this. I have few pairs of shoes that are either just thick soles, or heeled, like a cowboy boot. Pretty much everybody noticed i suddenly grew like 1,5 inch overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:25 AM
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I'll tell you that some women will "notice" even when you were not lying at all. I'm 5'7, never lied about it, because what's the point. And my ex girlfriend supposedly "didn't care about height", until new dude joined their friends group. Suddenly "i have never noticed how short you are" started to be daily occurrence :V
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:18 AM
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Thank gods i wasn't born there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:05 AM
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> As would rock/emo/goth, theater, etc. First of all, it was a niche. There weren't bunch of men running around in tight, leather pants and full KISS makeup to work or even on date. > Multiple centuries would disagree Do you really imply just because something was norm in 1700 or 1800 it would be welcomed today with open arms? We literally have women saying they get ick seeing dude in high waisted trousers and these were being worn up to 80's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:03 AM
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See, men purposefully giving bad advice, to eliminate potential competition is somewhat understandable. Women give bad advice....for what? What is the purpose there? I don't want to say "out of spite", because I don't believe whole gender is just evil
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:51 PM
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So if you ask a woman 9 times and she says no, and on the tenth time she finally says yes I only need one "no" and then I respect myself enough to not bother anymore, but if she said yes, she said yes. She could say "no" tenth time also. If she said "no" 9 times, and then said "hell yeah, let's do it!" is she consenting or not? Where? In comments under this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:46 PM
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Yes, it is very straightforward. No is no, yes is yes. So far I asked this question bunch of times, and only one woman answered, and her answer was "uuuuhhhh it's misrepresentation" And the fact y'all dodging answering it gives me a very straightforward output on your's morality. And it doesn't look good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:36 PM
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Lying about sexual past can also be considered rape then. After all, a man could not agree to have sex/relationship if he knew. That's the thing. Too many of these people turn the "woke" to 12 and leaves any rational thinking out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:16 AM
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It isn't. Passing a definitive judgment on morality, based on on your own perception is just stupid and easily broken by saying what I said. What if I asked 4 times, got 3 "no" and 1 "yes", but the yes was "ah what the hell, yeah! Let's do it!"? Am I a rapist? She said "no" 3 times, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:12 AM
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I think you, and people like you are trying to murk and complicate the concept of consent, to shame men more, even if they did nothing wrong. Your "ethical model of consent" can be broken simply by saying "actually I didn't feel safe".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:12 PM
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because y'all ain't trying to murk concept of consent to play some gotcha game, right? You've had sex with a woman, who consented freely, enthusiastically, well informed and without any pressure. But after 3 days she decided "actually, I think I was afraid and that's why I said yes". Congratulations, you are a rapist now, how do you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:09 PM
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A woman you've had sex with consented. Enthusiastically, fully, freely, informed and without any pressure. But she decided, after some time, she actually feels now she was scared. You are a rapist now. How do you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:02 PM
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Okay, let's ignore legal standards. We are going purely by ethics, morality and societal view. A person, with whom you had sex earlier just said their enthusiastic, informed and freely given consent was actually given under the influence of fear. They just decided they were actually scared. You are rapist now. How do you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:58 PM
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Yes, they can. And when they say "no" (no matter their tone or body language), a man should take it, and leave
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:55 PM
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I think your proposition is too rapey, because what if a woman manipulates herself into thinking she can safely reject?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:53 PM
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Recent study about what? "Do you treat women as a game?"? And they asked whom? And how many of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:43 PM
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Okay, but it's only hindrance to people, who are not meeting these standards (but want to be people having them).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:11 PM
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Having high standards/preferences is not "wrong", therefore isn't something a therapy could "fix".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:53 PM
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Honestly, I could never date any of my female friends too, because once there is a friendly rapport set, all romance-talks are out of window in my psyche. Plus some of now friends, are ex-partners of people I knew, and I have a rule to never date an ex of friend I guess I have to rely on pure luck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:46 PM
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Maybe... I can tell you, in any of my friends group, no one is dating each other. All boyfriends and girlfriends come from outside. All ofy female friends also firmly stated they wouldn't date any of their male friends due to reasons I gave earlier. Even moreso, plenty of girls from my not-immediate circles, also said they would never risk dating inside said circles, and after few years of being in them, I can safely say they keep to their word :V
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:37 PM
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That's like sure way to create drama. And why risk the "I thought I had a friend..."?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:11 PM
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Then you just chillin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:10 PM
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Ugly men will be rejected anyway, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:45 PM
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Although I don't agree with OP, your "argument" is also just...eee...useless. "Ugly men would still be single". So?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:19 PM
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Okay, yeah, I can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:17 PM
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I won't deny your experience, but can you tell me how men approaching you would change possible outcome? Except the other woman wanting to fight, I think all of them could happen either way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:03 PM
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Not even that. I was asked plenty time if I have girlfriend or similar questions, and I know FOR SURE (believe me, I do), these women weren't hitting on me. However, I have seen few women hitting on my friend. And I can honestly say, they were borderline harassing him (borderline, because he enjoyed it)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:42 PM
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I'll take your word, though I decide already to just never bother them, so it's all good
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:21 PM
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Eh, to be fair, there are a lot of female voices saying any men's approaching is a nuisances. Even the most respectful one. He just stops being one, when he takes "no" and leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:15 PM
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I'd guess more than vice versa, but it's still not enough argument, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:09 PM
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I don't see any added benefits for women tho. Those who want to approach do, and those who wanted a man to approach them, but he didn't, have hundred other options actively pursuing them, so....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:51 PM
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> I'm starting to think men don't consider women they're not attracted to to be women. If I'm not a woman, then what am I? Contrary to popular belief here, most men treat women like people. If they don't find a woman attractive, she gets treated as just another person. Just like vice versa > Men are always talking about how women have endless options. I have zero. I have always had zero. Below that you mentioned talking to men. There are your options. If the photo you shared in comments are real…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:04 AM
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Probably "unattractive people culture"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:54 AM
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I think posts like these are showing authors of them are weak minded and pathetic, because they can't handle other people asking them for help, or just doing their job. Back in the days, men were men and women were women, and they were all really helpful and kind. /s if not obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:56 AM
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I said it doesn't. You implied it does, for some reason > even in a customer service role you are still doing work I've worked or talked with enough pretty women, to know they get the job just by being pretty and had everybody else do the work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:44 AM
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I find it kind of gross, when someone wants to use my female friends as some kind of metric of my worth. They are human beings, not arbitrary checkboxes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:34 AM
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> So if you car is broken down and you need a ride to work, you wouldn't ask a friend who works in the same area for a ride? No, i would take transit. Or walk if possible. I wouldn't want to inconvenience any of them. > Another example is moving I've helped few of my friends move, but would never ask any of them to help me, because again, wouldn't want to inconvenience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:30 AM
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Yes, because some people will assume their definition of "friendship" is morally superior and then consider those with different definition morally inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:25 AM
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And? The existence of one job doesn't magically erase an existence of another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:19 AM
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No. I'm long term, ideally marriage, oriented person. I tried casual once (FWB) and felt it was almost meaningless, despite even her being one of better potential partners i've met (she just didn't want anything long term, because she was leaving country. And i think if anybody is lying or stringing other person along, they are in the wrong and should be ashamed and shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:18 AM
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And if you have a pretty face, you can "work" by using it. Be it regular, customer facing job or more female-empowering one as Only Fans (where you don't even have to show your body)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:04 AM
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Because this question makes about same sense as "why be bitter at the women at all? It’s not their fault that they’re not held to standards" Why some women are bitter with men? It's not their fault that they are not held to standards
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:03 AM
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This statement is factually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:49 AM
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Exactly because you don't know how they look. I'd bet my left nut a lot of women here would gladly go for one of the dudes from here, if he was attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:43 AM
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Why some women are bitter with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:41 AM
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> And then some invent giant “philosophies” like Red Pill and “looksmaxxing” to describe how to do things that women have been doing all along. And then women start clowning these “philosophies”, despite doing same exact things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:40 AM
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This. Don't be obese, have longer hair and wear a light dress, and you are good for 99% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:35 AM
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> Men have not been taught how to style and groom themselves very well They were. In past. Today we have over-casualization of everything, and "comfort" is number one priority, so most people (not only men) stopped taking good care for themselves. We are all laughing at the 2000's, when men taking care for their hygiene and putting in effort into clothes were called metrosexual, but now it's 2026 and men doing all that are getting called "gay" BY WOMEN. "They want to be the princess", "feminine …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:26 AM
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Sometimes I'm so glad once I get on even mildly friend-ish relationship with a woman (be it after rejection or "just so"), any romantic prospects are out of talks in my mind, because I don't have to deal with this bullshit of "no means no, but sometimes means give me some time"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:01 PM
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Would you say if a guy asks out... Yes. He got rejected already. Respect the answer, don't be pushy, move on. There is no statue of limitations on consent and boundaries. And, as an extra/on the side, have some self respect (the guy).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:52 PM
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*girl, both of them are women, but glad to see your prejudice right away I'm friends with them, because I don't think their opinions are directly harmful, so they are not a deal breaker for me (for simple, casual friendship)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:50 PM
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No, the implication is they just respond to different things they think they do/they want to. Tell me you have never seen a woman complaining about "only attracting jerks", please. I can literally look at my female friends, listen to their stated preferences and then look at who they are dating and see the contradictions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:32 PM
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Why it's sexist? I believe 100% women think they want what they say. I just also automatically assume a lot of them only think they want this, while in reality they respond to other things/traits. Just like men (ie. men saying they don't like fake boobs, lips, butts, but a lot of them go exactly for that).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:28 PM
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Well, not all men are predators, but the "men are predators" is very popular statement, so i don't see the issue with saying AWALT, when really a person means most
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:26 PM
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But also women are notorious for saying they don't date inside their circles and don't use apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:19 PM
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> You seriously believe that being socially aware is a tall ask Yes. I have a friend who thinks any approach in a public is borderline harassment, and other friend who thinks men should push and push. Both of them think their "way" is socially aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:16 PM
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I've had a "one on one conversation with somebody as an individual" and she actually told me she, and her girl friends, prefer jacked dudes, who are loud, brash and stereotypically (borderline caricaturally) masculine. Does that mean i should listen to her (and hear what she says) and claim to know what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:13 PM
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> in which women en masse decide that the survival of their culture isn’t worth having to settle down with men Nah man. The culture can go to hell if survival of it would mean i'm considered just some shmuck she "had to settle with"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:54 PM
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> Standards aren’t too high or unrealistic if one can consistently attract people they seek. And that's why so many women complain about "shortage of men that are good enough"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:53 PM
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> Women don’t have a strong urge to mate with a wide variety of men, and it seems men have an urge to (hypothetically) mate with a wide variety of… anything at all. This statement is funny, considering that women champion themselves as a beacon of attraction morality, because they are "attracted" to various different monsters/creatures, and "men only go for thin women"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:49 PM
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One "no" is enough. There is no "try again after some time" because that would just be ignoring initial "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:52 PM
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The only situation where I think maybe it would be ok to launch a very careful and polite second attempt would be if there is a really strong reason to believe that she may have changed her mind in the meantime. For example, if she said no at the beginning because she was in a relationship, then I think it can be ok to ask her out once again some time after they have broken up. But this means that there must be a significantly long enough time for her to actually change her mind in between the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:48 PM
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It absolutely comes very close to a harassment. One "no" is enough and should be respected
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:46 PM
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"no means no" period. There is no "unless".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:44 PM
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Why even bother? You most likely won't change her mind, so respect her "no" plus save yourself some time and just move on. I did it with every "no" I've heard and never regretted it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:41 PM
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So when's enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:38 PM
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I'm none of that and my main and sometimes only goal during sex is to fully satisfy my partner. I guess tried and true "choose better"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:20 PM
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Most women absolutely like muscles. It's just they think a man can go to the gym once a week, for 45 minutes and build modern-day action hero physique. And then they treat it as average (like you just did). So when they hear "muscles" or "gym goer" they think of roided bodybuilders, and not regular guy, working on his health and fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 11:11 PM
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Slutshame them. What's stopping you? You can literally come up to any of them and tell them their booty shorts or stringers makes you uncomfortable. And if theirs attire breaks any gym rule, ask the staff to remove them. If not - look at them. Stare at them and enjoy the view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:25 AM
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Looking is nowhere near invading someone's personal space, holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:21 AM
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And I don't think many men would shame you just for dressing in a certain way. Even on social media, men don't complain about the dress code, they complain about women making a fuss for looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:14 AM
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Okay...and? Is every man getting divorce and marrying younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:24 PM
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No, but the difference is men, in general, are not the ones saying they don't care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:28 PM
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But the point of the OP was that average men should date average women, and implying average women want average men, whereas all people want the best. You cannot keep getting better infinitely and at some point you have to accept you are not attractive. But saying such person he should just go after ugly women is as wrong as telling women to lower theirs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:19 PM
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Okay. Were you satisfied with your recent partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:13 PM
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Are you sure you wanted to reply to me? Because your response doesn't make sense in context of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:10 PM
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Then why wouldn't she say that outright? Assuming she really love giving head and assuming she really is into her current men, any logic would dictate she "should" want to give him head too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:00 PM
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I hope your current partner is too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:54 PM
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Are you satisfied with your sexual life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:53 PM
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I thought women don't have to do anything? Just because the sex is good, it doesn't mean she has to continue having it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:51 PM
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So you all spend so much time in comments, saying women can just not do something, and they don't have to have any reason for that, only for you to finish it with "his balls stinks"? Why? Maybe he keeps his hygiene to excellent standard, is the most generous and unselfish lover in the world and she just didn't want to give head?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:49 PM
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But this is just the other way to say you are not into that particular man as much. If he can't make you feel the way other men could
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:37 PM
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And that's why i think sexual values and certain "count" actually matter in life. To have satisfying sexual life, you have to find someone who shares your sexual values, interests and templates. And yes, number of previous sexual partners can be used very well to gauge that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:33 PM
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I wouldn't use "owe" or "duty" here. I'd say it's more like something generally expected, unless agreed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:28 PM
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Are you saying only "barely legal" women are above average? And again - what is an average? Yes, i'm aware men consistently find young women attractive, but can you provide the link to studies saying, and i quote, "but as men age, they’re still only interested in women who are barely legal"? Because if that's true, then apparently no marriage should be existing, because a man would just divorce the moment woman hit some "age wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:17 PM
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I got banned for blocking obvious trolls and rage baiters and bigots. It's not only for blocking mid-debate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:10 PM
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This. One time i blocked all the usual rage baiters, obvious trolls and just bigots and suddenly, my feed (for this sub) was noticeably better. Quality went up, you could discuss things better. But after some time i got banned, unless i unblock all accounts. So i did. And the cesspool came back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:09 PM
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Have you heard how some women talk about men? It's not men's/women's issue. It's people's issue
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:47 PM
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Exactly. Just as i cant imagine seriously telling a short woman, who goes only for tall men, to go for short men instead, i can't imagine telling ugly dude to go for ugly women. The only difference is women will have somewhat of initial success (meaning a hookup) and then nothing (and according to most women, just a hookup isn't really a win)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:44 PM
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I disagree with your intro. Above average, average and below average women want to date above average men, which is understandable, just like above, average and below average men want to date above average women. The problem is how you gauge your "worth". Do you want to take literal average (so height, weight, earnings etc)? Do you want to limit it only to looks? Fitness level? Career? Do you agree on introducing any nuances? > If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:42 PM
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I left this sub for like a week, and first thing i see is one of the most unhinged things i've read since yesterday ( :V )
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:31 PM
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Of course there is. Not protecting doesn't have to be punished by jail, for it to be shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:29 PM
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Mostly by women from my or her life (so like mutual friends etc). Some guys too, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:00 PM
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I was demonized for the end of relationship, called insecure and every insult under the sun. She "was lucky she escaped toxic relationship" It's just one of many examples just from my life, of women getting of easy, and men getting demonized
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:49 PM
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It's slick and risky topic. I guess if both parties were really secure and mature about it, sure. But rarely there are people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:29 PM
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I agree it's weird. It's weird women just babble something that could clearly hurt their partners, and it's weird when guys get hooked on being better lover then previous dude (as long as both parties are satisfied)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:12 PM
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Very comfortable argument, wouldn't you say? So now, anytime a woman complains about men doing bad things, i hope you will also say "no, the men *you* date do that." Anyway, i dated vastly different women and they still had this thing in common. I witnessed it firsthand with my friend's relationships also Is EVERY SINGLE woman doing it? No, of course not. Fortunately for me, i got over my insecurities (planted by my first girlfriend, to be precise), so if my future girlfriend will start telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:04 PM
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I never asked my ex about her past lovers or compared myself sexually to them, date an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:49 PM
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> Also how would you know if you are her best or not? Again and again - women will tell you themselves, unprompted. Yes, asking and pestering about it is one of the stupidest things you can do, as a man (especially if you are prone to insecurities), but you can be 99% sure, she will tell you anyway. Hell, i've had a short fling (i was hoping for something longer) where we AGREED on not talking about past sexual partners, because it's not relevant and she would babble about it anyway (one of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:47 PM
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Red Pill did not invent anything. It is an observation of patterns and actions, naming it and showing it to inexperienced men, so they can learn faster and maybe save themselves some heartbreak. The main issue with red pill is talking about it with women. Because it will sound cringy when spoken about, but rarely any woman would think it's cringy when they are attracted to tall and handsome dude with money. > Some people are very impressed by income, but the pressure of the data suggests assorta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:37 PM
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> Personally speaking, I have had friends who’s girlfriends are clearly getting too friendly with other men on multiple occasions Poor women, having to flirt with other men, while having boyfriends and husbands, because...men...i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:41 AM
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I met a girl, who wasn't like that. She started being like that after we entered a relationship, because she met new friends. Our relationship ended because of this and things around it. Pretty much everybody i knew was blaming me and calling insecure because of this But nooooo, women are not given more grace, absolutely no
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:40 AM
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Lol no do you believe women get looser from sex? That's weird. I do, however, believe (and know some girls who said that) using strong vibrator could numb vagina, or make the used to vibrations for orgasm. Just like using strong grip on dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:02 PM
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This so MUCH! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:24 PM
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Pussy don't lose sensitivity from vibrators. Regular vibrator use in masturbation does not make it harder to orgasms during partnered sex Wtf, of course it does
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:23 PM
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But what do you mean specifically by that? How men should dress, act and groom for the approval of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:19 PM
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> most men seem to expect to get a woman who is more physically attractive than they are You can't compare male attractiveness to female attractiveness one to one, to say men want women who are more attractive than they. Both genders look for something different in opposite one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:54 AM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:14 AM
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I have people that are and are not that, in my life. I'm boring but not uninquisitive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:54 AM
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Eh, i knew it will be a mistake to interact with you, but i thought maybe this time she will act like a normal human being, oh well, i guess that's my fault still Aight, are women going crazy for men of status beneath theirs? No? they are hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:53 AM
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The difference is men have much wider spectrum of what's attractive to them. Women, in general, look for the best. Which is understandable, and not negative/bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:49 AM
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Why not? Why should i only be friends with super-exciting people? They are boring, but i still like them, just as i am boring and they still like me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:44 AM
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I don't. Would you say women, in general, go crazy after men that are short(er), fat, poor, ugly, unambitious etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:42 AM
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> It is putting blame for something women can't control. Same men like to scream about "women shouldn't care about height because it's not something we can control". Well attraction isn't either Men, who "scream" about women and height acknowledge that women, in fact, want taller men. Yes, attraction can't be negotiated and controlled, hence the hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:35 AM
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Lol, same with interacting with my female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:33 AM
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Well, one of my exes said it's like cheating (and she cheated "back", but with other guy, lol). All I know is that I'm smart enough now, that if will be in another relationship, I will just pretend like I am not masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:35 PM
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For men, "sympathy" means "please don't call me an incel, because i said i'm frustrated with dating"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:56 PM
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Okay, this is you Both of my ex girlfriends went nuclear on me, when they "found out" I was masturbating when alone. Same shit happened to pretty much every friend of mine, and few female friends also said they would be pissed if they found out their boyfriends masturbated. Plus a lot of posts on Reddit or IG
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:37 PM
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> The problem with this idea is that every guy doesn’t want to do all of these things to “level up” but most still want to partner Of course i don't want to constantly "level up", and i do want to find this one person to spend life together. Why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:21 PM
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> The idea that men shouldn’t approach women is dying out in the mainstream As always, there are rules. And as always, these rules are 1) be attractive 2) don't be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:14 PM
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Had similar situation (fortunately it wasn't lifetime ban, but only for the night, because they knew me there - i'm frequent customer).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:01 PM
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It just popped on my feed one day and arguing with people online is my guilty pleasure. Though i also like to have a serious discussion from time to time, but there is no suitable space on the internet for that, because any topic gets hijacked by extremes from all sides and pills. No thread here managed to change my perception on anything, because most of times, they begin rather sane, but go unhinged pretty fast. Matter or fact, online rhetoric, while surely have some influence on me, haven't r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:40 AM
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If a woman is eager to split the bill, you are not getting second date. Hell, i was once on a date, where she paid for the whole thing, when i went to restroom nad then ghosted me afterwards. Weird, but at least pancakes were good
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:14 AM
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> So yeah, if woman is eager to pay for herself, high chances that she doesn’t want to meet you again Oh, i agree with this 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:12 AM
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You confuse objectification with sexualization. I'd argue no person (of any gender) would want to be objectified, but some like being sexualized and use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:57 AM
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For 25 years of my life, no woman ever, except my mother (to some extent) has tried to listen to me, care about my feelings or just be friend. Finally, after all these years i met great group of people and befriended some women, who are willing to do those things (and vice versa). So yeah, first time this happened i also though she must have romantic feelings for me, but luckily she wasn't a man-hater, and when i told her about it, she was willing to sit with and just talk. Not some free-therapy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:47 AM
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> and masturbate, like they did when single while i think this is valid, ya'll go crazy about boyfriends masturbating, so lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:28 AM
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Sex is not only about penetration tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:23 AM
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> Da heck, we have trashcans solely for hygene producst (pads, tampons) in the public bathrooms. I'm sure most public bathrooms in my country have them too, but i don't frequent them too often. I'm saying what my friends would tell me, plus one or two my personal experiences (when, for example, men's restroom was not available, and all would use only women's)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:10 AM
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A guy with female friends here. The amount of used pads on floor/stall walls, blood on floor and toilet, tampons clogging toilets etc i've heard from them is scary. Like really scary. I won't pretend men's restroom is squeaky clean, but the worst i've seen was some piss splash on floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:56 AM
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Exactly. And it always is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:25 PM
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Mainly because ya'll equate women rejecting any advance form a man, to man not wanting to enter long term relationship with woman (after sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:50 PM
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> They are being sex-zoned. They are sex-zoning themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:45 AM
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> You’re pretending to miss my point I think. Only a bit, to make it more dramatic, but my actual argument stands. The guy did not rejected her, he simply didn't want to enter a long term relationship. She could very well not have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:33 AM
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no u
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:23 AM
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The amount of women, who even tried to escalate and have their boyfriends (and even just friends) fight other dude for slightest thing, i have witnessed, is scary. I have talked to few of my female friends about it, and most didn't see it as a red flag, as long as the violence wasn't targeted at them (which is quite obvious). But when i asked why should he fight at all, if the situation is not a life of death situation, they all were saying about men protecting women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:13 AM
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Basing only on my own thoughts and conversation with my male friends, men usually don't obsess over other woman, while being with different one, but rather "fantasize" about their current partner having other/more specific qualities - for example, i like to dance. i was with a girl who do not like to dance. I didn't spend nights, dreaming about some other girl dancing with me, i fantasize about my then-girlfriend dancing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:55 AM
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What about "i'd really love to date you, but i'm not in the right headspace right now, but i really sees us together at one point"? Granted, i think a guy falling for this is naive and should just say "ok, goodbye then", but i'd still call her action a bit deceptive, because she 100% knows the dude will linger about, trying to show he is a right choice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:50 AM
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Is a woman, who got strung along for sex by a man a victim or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:47 AM
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we get constantly told to not approach women, and some men are decent enough to listen I assume the question is about straight up approaching. Some people may just "suddenly" start dating, without straight approach
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:25 AM
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29 yo 1 girl rejected Maybe i'd get better results if i'd approach more, but: - i don't feel like cold approaching is good. For me or the woman - ideally i'd like to get to know someone first more platonically, but this always turns into "already too friend-ish". And i don't date friends - i don't even meet enough single, attractive to me and in my league women, to approach more - i'm ugly, so i'm not really sure if approaching more would change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:22 AM
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Firstly - obvious rage bait (4-5 inch, smaller than average, okay) But maybe some woman reading this really struggle with that and would like honest, normal answer, so: Just tell him, straight up, you need bigger to be satisfied. I was in this situation, though i made it infinitely worse by not respecting myself, so i agreed on toys etc. Made me miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:08 AM
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They both had sex, they both got something from this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:39 AM
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I paid for everything (as opposed to situation when a girl rejected me, we stayed friends and just existed on regular friendly manners) But I did, as a part of using guy, and you immediately went " well he is an idiot"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:43 PM
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> Did she ever pay for meals/drinks etc? If not you completely were an idiot. She didn’t take advantage of your feelings, she took advantage of your stupidity. Ah, so when a guy will say to a girl, he definitely sees them together (but in reality he didn't mean it), so she keep having sex with him, she is just stupid and he did nothing wrong, right? > But most of the time when girls say this it’s so they don’t hurt your feelings, lord knows I’ve done it loads of time. It’s not taking advantage o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:28 PM
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Lol, women, in general, date using RP points, so what are we even talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:24 PM
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Yes, because a lot of time, these women KNOW a guy is into them romantically/sexually, and purpousefully take...well, advantage of this. The guy should, of course, just cut contact in that situation, but people are people, and just like a girl hoping a guy will change his mind after she hook up with him enough times, the guy can hope the girl will change her, after some time. I have been in a situation, where a girl i was into (she knew, i literally asked her out) didn't reject me with stone col…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:19 PM
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So what was the problem? He was rude. That's it. You don't know what you are arguing for, and goes "haha you proved my point". But ah, you see, you proved mine just as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:35 PM
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> Most of them looked at this video and saw nothing wrong with that man did. Rejecting trans person (or even just a person you don't want to date) is not bad. He could do it in less rude way, but let's not pretend like: a) these shows are not made strictly as a ragebaits b) the reverse version of this is not similarly rude or ridiculous Or are you suggesting he should give her a chance to show her (maybe) wonderful personality and then date her? > They complain about women using men for resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:26 PM
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My ex-gf would describe in some very specific details how she would have sex with her ex in his car, or some changing room, about various acts they would do, even when i asked her to not do that. I tried to initiate similar stuff with her (prior to hearing about it) and she would reject them, because "she is not into that". Some women are straight up evil, manipulative, lying sadists, and i cannot understand why other women cannot just...well, understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:19 PM
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> You guys only see how unhinged the red pill is as soon as women repeat what is said and how it sounds to other people. That is precisely why most people don’t like the red pill. Ah yes, sure. You could at least take some responsibility for your takes. > No, they don’t, plenty of men care about personality, and don’t think with their penis 24 seven. Red pill cares about personality too? Even the most mainstream grifters will talk about women being easygoing, agreeable, fun and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:14 PM
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The absolute irony of you thinking you are the person doing "duh", while providing PPD with the most unhinged takes ever imagined. > most guys think the red pill is fucking stupid.. Most people think red pill is stupid, while at the same time dating according to it. Especially women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:08 PM
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Tho I only was in 3 relationships so far, all 3 of my ex girlfriends would just start babbling about it themselves. Usually after some alcohol (so like a party etc). Even after I would say few times I don't really want to hear that, they'd still talk about it. The worst one was when my ex's friend brought up this topic, and they all started ducking giggling and bushing about my ex's ex and stuff they did, right next to me.u
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:48 AM
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This is reach too long even for me. If they are not supposed to "get attracted" based on looks and on "personality", then on what? I guess one could argue women should just observe how guy is just acting everyday, but why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:33 AM
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I'm looking for a relationship, not a business deal. If a woman has to be bribed with money, to spend time with me, she is not someone for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:52 PM
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Aaaah fuck. I meant incel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:52 PM
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They are the ones calling other incest, and first, go-to insult to any man is "you are not getting laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:44 PM
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Blue pillers would like to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:49 AM
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I actually read this as "men are bad" post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:45 PM
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There are so many different people on earth, that makes this question a bit pointless. Some will find it cute, some ok and some will be repulsed by it. Hell, i have met a lot of women who were repulsed by me being a swing dancer and into menswear, so you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:36 AM
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You mean you have never seen a comment section of an obvious thirst trap for ladies? 40-50 year old women writing nasty things under a video of 20-something year old dude etc? I'm not saying women do it in same numbers as men, of course not. But to say they DON'T do it is jus disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:12 AM
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Funny thing about PPD is such posts can be either weak rage bait, or 100% serious post, and you can never be sure which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:07 AM
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Really? Y'all here are saying an abusing, cheating and lying piece of shit can still be likable. If THAT is your blue pill, I think you may be colorblind
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:40 PM
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I'm not a red piller No rebuttal needed, because y'all keep making them yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:38 PM
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It's really funny how y'all proved many red pill talking points right here. Hilarious truly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:36 PM
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You know, he will beat you to a pulp, but he is likeable at least, tee hee /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:33 PM
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Damn, that has to be one of the better (and most blatant) twisting of the accountability "An asshole at least doesn't blame others and is charming!" Sure, maybe he cheats, lies, manipulates, outright abuses his girlfriend, but at least he is not blaming other for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:30 PM
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I just call out bs statements, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:24 PM
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Right? It's not even "women ignoring red flags because a man is attractive/has money/whatever", but rather "women are such kind hearted, they believe a man could change"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:15 PM
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As if women don't get fucked by two asshats and then proceed to call all men bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:03 PM
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"social events" where "women go to spend time with their friends, and no to be bothered by some dude"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:48 PM
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While living with my parents I'd do those things for a 4 person household, on top of taking care for 3 different cars, a whole ass backyard and garage. Just take care of your surroundings, as any average, functional adult should and stop expecting trophy for putting dirty plate to dishwasher, Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:44 PM
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My buddy did it once, and after paying, half of the "likes" disappeared, rest were either bots or just really unattractive. I won't pay for any premium, because I refuse to give money to these fuckers I also would prefer to just talk to women in person, and I do, but this doesn't really change anything. I get, at best, "wow, ANY girl would be lucky..." blahblablah
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:30 PM
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But if a man can't relax for a second, or take a nap, when a woman is doing something, shouldn't also woman not be allowed to relax/nap, when a man is doing something? When he is getting up at night, to comfort the baby, she could be preparing formula. Or cleaning toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:17 AM
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We are talking about childcare now, not cleaning home. But even if, it's funny how a man HAS TO do SOMETHING because otherwise he is a lazy bum, lol. If toilet doesn't need cleaning IT HAS TO BE cleaned, because a woman is breastfeeding RIGHT NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:12 AM
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But she is already feeding the baby. To make things equal, he should be doing something too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:06 AM
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Should the man stand over the woman, when she breastfeed the baby? or try to breastfeed himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:04 AM
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Weekly, sometimes twice a week if fertilizer works too good. Dishes are done by dishwasher, laundry by washing machine, also twice, three times at best. Cooking is the only one that has to be done everyday (unless you meal prep for whole week or whatever). I'm a single dude doing the cooking, cleaning, laundry (and mowing grass when i come home to parents), like a regular, functioning adult. i don't know why women complain about those chores, as if it is some highly demanding things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:02 AM
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The difference would be obvious. Those on apps get fuckton of possible dates, but not with men they really want to. Ir; depends probably on their social circle, places they frequent and attitude towards cold approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:53 AM
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> I think what a lot of women fail to understand is that online dating apps aren't a viable way for men to secure dates. It's always a treat seeing reactions of my female friends, when i tell them i hadn't have a single match for like two months now. Even more so, after they check my profile and say "i don't understand! It doesn't make any sense"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:50 AM
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> but are you actively trying to date? If i am not going on any dates, but still trying, am i "actively dating"? > Are you on dating apps? Yes (edit, because i just fucking can't. Two days ago i changed my real height (5'7) to 6'0. Beside this, same pictures, same bio. Just taller. I opened the app today and already have 10 matches. This is fucking ridiculous) > Are you asking women out IRL? Yes > Are you on a platform like Reddit or elsewhere wherein you regularly communicate with potential des…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:37 AM
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to be honest, no one can give you good dating advice, because there is no script. Not women, not men, not even highly successful man. Because they are not you, and no matter how good they know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:27 AM
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- How to be more atractive? - Be more attractive _....aight /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:25 AM
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> dress your best (be stylish) Seeing how dudes in relationships dress, i'd say women don't really care about men's clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:24 AM
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> A lesbian is almost guaranteed not to hit on me in a way that insinuates sex Being to few queer clubs and seeing how women lesbians (or maybe bi) behave there i can honestly say they can be worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:20 AM
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> their behavior is much more overt because they know there wouldn’t be any consequences I won't deny many men are creepy and downright harass women under the sheet of "flirting", but i both witnessed and heard from my friends how forceful and creepy lesbians can be, especially in "queer-friendly" places
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:16 AM
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If you want to have some meaningful and sincere discussion on this forum, you have to keep few usernames in mind and then don't start any talks with them. They'll just troll, ragebait and derail any conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:13 AM
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I think you responded to the wrong comment, mate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:48 AM
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"you just need better photos!!" - said tall and conventionally attractive guy I've had a whole committee of my female friends approving of my profile and i hadn't have a single match in two months (with no match for almost a year prior to that).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:20 AM
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I am not wrong, tho You did it first time here. And I suspect also for the last time, seeing your track record.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:04 PM
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Congratulations 🎉 Your first critique of a woman! How does that feel? My statement stands tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:53 PM
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Weird that you only ask for links and sources when a man is making any claim, but when women here are making the most insane claims about men you are nowhere to be found, or are circlejerking with them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:32 PM
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I have no idea. My guess people took self interest way too much to their hearts, without any consideration for others. Or they just chase constant butterflies in belly (anxiety really) and thus became flakey. This even gave me anxiety out of "fear" of loosing a friend (or potential friend), because what if I invite them anywhere and they will stand me up too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:31 PM
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In past two years, only one date I had lined up actually happened (though she put her photos from before 30kg, so yeah...cool). Rest would either stand me up, or cancel last minute. And just for shit and giggles, a lot of my female friends would do the same thing (I am no longer friends with them). It literally came to the point that I am just waiting for the "you are gonna hate meeeee" type of text, whenever I make any plans with any girl, romantic or platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:18 PM
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There was a very short moment in my life, when I thought I am demi, because I had to actually get to know a girl before wanting to do anything with her sexually, but quickly I realized I'm just regular guy not into hook ups
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:55 PM
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About posts? You personally
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:47 PM
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I'm not saying you are lying, but 100% of women, i heard saying they are sapiosexual, were dating biggest dumbasses i have ever knew (on top of them themselves not being too bright)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:39 PM
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Do you also say it under the posts about "why men are like this?" (of course you don't, since you are creating these posts) If enough, vastly different women, say the same thing, why shouldn't i believe them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:38 PM
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Anytime i hear someone (and especially a woman) says they are "demisexual" or "sapiosexual" i know they are just bullshitting. With demisexual it's at least a somewhat believable, though their demisexuality is out of the window when really attractive guy shows up. Sapiosexuals are straight up bullshitting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:28 PM
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It's funny, because when i listen to what women say, believe them and then bring it up here i get called names
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:26 PM
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> There's no need to dig, eventually they tell you themselves one way or another. Without skipping a beat. Women here always act as if most guys dig and keep asking questions, but all you need to do is just wait and she will tell you everything, whether you want it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:19 PM
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This! Pretty much every woman i have spoken with 9either platonically or romantically) said being available is a huge turn off, which is so fucking insane to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:14 PM
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You mean women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:11 PM
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No matter how much you try, sweatpants and hoodie won't ever be stylish in any way. They are comfortable, sure, utalitarian in some way, yes. Not stylish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:29 AM
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Nope, I'm just not an American, who walks around the city in a pajama
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:24 AM
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You can wear hoodies nad sweatpants in stylish way There is absolutely no way to wear those in a "stylish" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:51 AM
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"Be better at flirting!" Gets out, tries to flirt with women around, to get better "No! Not like that! Just magically become better!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:48 AM
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I take any advice, even the ones given by someone who knows me, as most probably useless, but sometimes I will amuse myself by asking for it either on internet or some of my friends. I will give full backstory, my current life etc. And it's always either "yeah, you gotta improve yourself broo" or "just be yourself brooo" or, my favorite - from female friends, "I don't get it, any girl would be lucky to be with you (not me tho, teehee)"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:45 AM
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Oh really? Because y'all keep saying it's rather simple, just "personality broo"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:37 PM
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Oh really? Because y'all keep saying it's rather simple, just "personality broo"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:37 PM
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Yeah yeah, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:12 AM
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Not you. Just other comments in this sub. Both types are at the same type of believability.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:12 AM
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Not any less believeable than "I'm 5,6 and overweight and I get multiple numbers in bars/club because"personality""
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:10 AM
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Aye, and I'm the 5'2 bald, fat janitor, but I respec women, so I date multiple smokeshows each week. Sure mate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:39 AM
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Which is stupid, because a personality will be received different, based on person's looks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:27 AM
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She is not entitled to a relationship tho,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:47 PM
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no, I won't go out/sleep with you Bam
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:09 PM
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Easiest and fastest attraction I ever created was using ckassic red pil dating tactics. The only problem was that's not me, naturally. I'm not flakey, stoic, cocky etc. So it was tiresome and finally the mask cane of. Wish I was like that in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:08 PM
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Unless she was forced, she is also "at fault"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:00 PM
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He is acting in his own interest, just like woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:58 PM
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I'm egalitarian, and even one, simple case "disqualifies" me from being a feminist - a retirement age in my country. It was always higher for men, now there are talks about making it even, and wouldn't you know - feminists don't like the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:30 AM
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And women want men to take on the traditional men's role. We ain't so different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:26 AM
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You are producing whole rant, on strawman, and yes - taking it personal for some reason. I already told you the reasons. You may pretend they don't exist, but they do. That's all I have to say
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:41 AM
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Again, you are taking this way too personal So why did you feel it was so important to spin up a non-existent difference between stupid violent women and stupid violent men? I already told you. Men fully expect to be hit back, when they throw hands. Women expect the dude will just take it and don't defend himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:25 AM
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> Stop trying to stir up some explanation for why you think stupid violent men are somehow smarter or more noble than stupid violent women. I'm not? Calm yourself, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:53 AM
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> I think it's contradictory because women search for good men (not just seeking casual sex, being compatible with the provided bio/prompts, not a creep), but men who fulfill this criteria get like one match per week on OLD Still no contradiction. Women want to find someone attractive. Unattractive dudes won't be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:49 AM
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What? I thought short, bald and fat indians are slaying pussies left and right simply for being respectful!? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:46 AM
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The difference is a man expects to be punched back. A woman will throw hands and then pikachu face when she gets punched
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:38 AM
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In my opinion, it's simple case of ratio and "ability to choose" women poses on dating apps. Let's not pretend that women, actually using dating apps, are not heavily FOMOed there - maybe next one will be better. Plus, the fact that women already don't find most men attractive, so when you limit your exposure to just photos and some short "bio", you get even less attraction. I don't know if I'm a "good man". I like to think I am. I think my friends think I am. But I'm also not attractive enough.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:25 PM
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Maybe it's just the porn I happen to watch, but most of it has dudes face, voice, moaning etc, So maybe I'm just biased and don't know it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:20 PM
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*Central not eastern (yes, i will die on this hill). But it makes it even more frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:43 PM
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Right....so you already have it. It's called movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:42 PM
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So women don't want porn, but movies. You already have movies. You want movies with 20% of fully visible, uncensored erotic scenes? This would be nearly impossible to make, because you'd have to find actors who can actually play AND are willing to have sex on camera
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:39 PM
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Nope, Polish. Dinner dates are definitely a thing in Europe, even as a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:37 PM
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> Of what in particular? I think something like Heated Rivalry, Fifty Shades of Grey, Bridgerton or 365 days is and example of adapted "women's porn". Although they're softer core version than you can get away with in lit because they're film and television. So still regular porn but with BDSM or cosplay aspect to it? maybe it's really to much for my simple male brain, but i'd say more pornographic version of any of these movies would still just be regular porn? Especially Grey or 365 days > The…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:33 PM
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I managed to get a date few weeks ago and since she said she is huge jazz fan i invited her to my friend's concert. It even was a fancy restaurant (but entry was free). I was really looking for this concert and she said she wants to leave like 45 minutes into it. Never again will i plan a date as something i already wanted to do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:29 PM
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> Then you are about as logical as a child who doesn't understand cartoons aren't real. Ah, couples in family movies love each other, therefore it's childish to expect being loved by your partner. Truly amazing logic here. > I haven't seen this personally Of course you didn't. You only see when make do something "bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:27 PM
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Can you give me some example? I like contextual porn (if it means what i think it means), but it still registers to me as regular porn. I think the "primal" aspect is due to free porn sites uploading cut movies, instead of full ones, with whole story etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:25 PM
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Well, there are lesbian movies. Can't get much more "female gays" i'd say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:23 PM
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It sometimes is absurd, because i have female friends who will gladly go (in group) to a museum, carnival or whatever and will have ton of fun, but a date has to be an expensive dinner. I even went full incel vs excel and assumed it's a date, when i invited my friend to newly open speakeasy-style cafe, followed by some pancakes, and at the end of the night she started talking about this new guy. When i mentioned we are on a date she laughed and said cafe and pancakes are not a date XD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:22 PM
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> So then this doesn't apply to you because you aren't comparing manufactured entertainment with reality. You're comparing reality with reality. I do compare it tho. I don't expect woman to be flawless actress, who is doing splits on me or whatever, but i do expect her to show initiative, enthusiasm and passion. These are things shown in porn. Rest is just visual extras > No idea what you're talking about. Care to explain? Women like to compare real men to fictional men (written by women) and ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:17 PM
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> woman being fucked by an anonymous man in a crowd while she watched a public execution. There are fuckton of "a woman is fucked in crowded train/bar/shop/office" videos from japanese porn studios, just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:14 PM
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Yes, i'd be disappointed if i learn the woman is not that enthusiastic to sleep with. I already slept with a girl who WAS enthusiastic and active. I experienced a part of what it feels like to be desired, and it was a night and day experience. > The problem is reality versus fiction. Funny how this suddenly doesn't work, when the discussion is about fictional vs real men, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:12 PM
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> if a woman doesn't act like a porn star during sex that it means she isn't attracted to him. Well yes, if i slept with a woman, and she wasn't an active and enthusiastic participant, i'd think she isn't really attracted to me that much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:08 PM
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I really wonder what exactly women mean, when talking about "porn made for women" or the "female gaze"? Do you mean live action versions of most popular "romance" books? That would be just either CNC or bestiality. Soft and "passionate" sex scenes? There are plethora of production studios, focusing on such. More attractive male actors? I'm straight, but i would say most of male porn actors are conventionally attractive. I have watched few movies one of my female friends recommended me as "made b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:06 PM
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> Edit: I realized that what I'm referring to is a "the one that got away" type of scenario. But that's not what "the one that got away" is? "The one" refers yo a girl that was great, but men himself fucked it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:24 AM
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Any pill and no-pill advice will be generic. Only difference is blue pillers will also attribute your lack of romantic success to your supposed bad morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:49 AM
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An academic style of learning, where I attend regular classes, get homeworks and have regular exams? Yes. Now I learn what I need for my job and what I find interesting, without anyone looming over me with grading and shit. Do you intend to go down to one digit body fat percentage? Are you able to memorize and utilize every book you ever read, with intention to read more and more to "improve yourself"? Are men supposed to chase more and more weightlifting PRs to not be called lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:20 PM
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That must be one exhausting and miserable life then, if you cannot even for a moment be happy of your improvements, because you have to improve more and more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:11 PM
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It is a satire of a "men has to improve". Because no matter how much a man improves himself, there will always be some asshat saying "you should improve yourself for women to want you" Yes, self-improvement should have an end somewhere. you have to do X I did X nooo, you have to do X+1
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:56 PM
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They did it in past for survival They are not doing it now, because they can survive on their own and are not attracted to most men Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:30 AM
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How much more one have to improooooove?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:27 AM
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It's not "she", as it was not one woman only. What feminism has to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:16 PM
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I don't think height is my only issue. It is however one of the biggest. And i'm saying this due to the amount of "if only you were taller" i've heard either from women i tried to flirt with, or from female friends. Another are face and not wanting to "travel the world" XD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:15 PM
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I know i'm not short. Please tell that to girls who said "if only you were taller" to me XD I like my height. I don't have problems with buying clothes (well, at least don;t have problems with their length), i can comfortably sit in pretty much any car, i don't look ridiculous on my motorcycles (compared to, for example, my friend, who likes sports bikes, but is super tall and looks just funny on them), being pretty much the same height or just slightly taller/shorter than 99% of women in our da…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:13 PM
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Apart from this being low quality ragebait Shortt, average and ugly men in 2026 are being chosen over us for relationships as they are more compliant and easier to control. What a great way to live in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:27 PM
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5'9 is tall. I can say, if i was 5'9, half of my dating problems would disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:01 PM
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> What's different between now and then? Or maybe wide spread of social media, treating relationship as a fashion accessory (so a 6'2 boyfriend looks better than 5'6 on your IG story), having "access" to hundreds of people at a swipe of a finger, etc etc I've heard friends of my mother, saying a man has to be this and this tall, because how will it look, when they are same height. You want to tell me 50-or-so year old women are watching these podcasts? I don't need to go on subreddits to see wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:00 PM
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I don't care what some asshat with mic set is saying, just as most men don't care. I care when a huge portion of a gender i'm attracted to and the one i'm trying to be involved in a romantic relationship with is saying. Is this also "the manosphere's" fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:48 PM
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Yes, I tend to believe what a woman is saying right to my face
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:41 PM
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The manosphere has really poisoned you guys. That's so sad honestly. It ain't the manosphere, that kept telling me I'm too short (5'7 for fuck sake).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:39 PM
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I swear, if i hear one more "noooo, but you are sooo X (put yet another disingenuous compliment here)" from my female friends, i'm throwing hands (in air, while i'm walking away).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:36 AM
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I'm a man with not very big sex experience, so i'm obviously the best person to talk about it /s I believe, the "orgasm gap" has few causes. Obviously, men just busting a nut and calling it end are one. but then i don't understand why women continue to have sex with them. Seems counter intuitive Women don't want to communicate. For a gender, that is supposed to be better in communication, women can't (or won't) voice their wants and needs clearly. And when you point it out, you get "well i shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:51 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:12 PM
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It's easy to be shocked by that, when no woman ever was that into you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:30 PM
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aesthetically pleasing women are aesthetically pleasing Just like aesthetically pleasing men are aesthetically pleasing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:05 AM
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Honestly, dude, all these things sound gay (as in homosexual) for women and men. And i have never met a girl, who would do all these and claim she is 100% straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:00 AM
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I can't wait (/s) for when AI bots will just replace all OF models entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:09 PM
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It's a kind of a parasocial relationship. The man gets to feel like the OF girl is "his". He chats with "her" (tho it's most probably not her, but someone hired to do that), she makes content specifically for him, thu he feels special. I also do not understand why these men won't just pay for an escort, by there must be some psychological explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:01 PM
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Let's not pretend shyness is seen equally between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:42 PM
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Nah, I'd absolutely prefer to be approached, because it eliminates one of my two main issues - I'm sure I am not bothering them in that moment. And since they'd approach, it would also minimize my second issue - what to talk about (since I assume they'd at least have some kind of opening topic)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:39 PM
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Why didn't you berate him back to 3 generations and called him all insults and banes under the sun? It could have help him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:22 PM
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I'm shy, introverted ball of anxiety and I'm always happy to talk to someone, if they show even an ounce of interest in a conversation with me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:18 PM
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Pay my bills, fly me out on expensive vacations, pay for everything, only fancy dinner is a proper date, must be this high etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:15 PM
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> reject well paying jobs Yes, my favorite thing to do is rejecting all these high paying job offers i'm getting swarmed with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:11 AM
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I'm not desirable, i would date me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:08 AM
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Just like women in european countries start thinking American "standards" should be applied in their countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:09 AM
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Is it only me, or there are more and more total rage baits and built-around-strawman-bad-faith posts lately? I know this group isn't exactly a Harvard Discussion Panel, but i remember even posts i didn't agree with at all were....well better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:05 AM
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It's easier for him, because he made up the whole "story".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:04 AM
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Just as "sub 4 dude". Funny but ugly guy is called a friend, not potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:08 PM
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The difference is a lot of men still will find an "unattractive" woman attractive. More than other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:06 PM
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If the context is "I slept with others right away, but I "like" you, so I'll make you wait" I'd still take it as an insult. Because it means you either are not that attracted to me, or wants to play stupid games with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:07 PM
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Yes, men were saying this all the time, putting both, within context, as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:04 PM
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I mean mentioning anything sexual, at early stages of dating, in any way will warrant you an "ick"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:26 PM
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Why anytime this topic is being brought up, the most important thing - the context - is skipped? Every single time, like a clockwork. It's obviously rhetorical question, because i know why - if you did include the context, the whole narrative changes. "You are a husband material" is an insult, if it's prefaced with something along the lines of "I would never hookup with you, but you are a husband material". Men don't want to be just a safe option. Men want to be wanted (wild, i know). The same w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:25 PM
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Not "some". ANY. And I don't mean "oh he likes X and I don't, so we won't work".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:16 PM
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And a lot (I'd even say most) don't. Just like most of dudes would be super upfront about it, if any mention of sex at the beginning of dating wouldn't warrant an instant "ick" and rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:07 PM
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It would be great, if women were able to actually talk about sex, kinks etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:05 PM
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OP just admitted women should submit to men, as long as the man is some kind of Chad...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:02 PM
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would we even exist without women and the children we bring into the world? Are you implying women poses ability to self-impregnate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:01 PM
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Because leaving a child is a bit easier than going through pregnancy and then leaving a child. It's not a comment about "women bad for leaving child".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:20 PM
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I think most of "vanilla porn" is just that. Wide shots of slow movement and low sound. Fact that anything other than that is instantly deemed "degrading towards women" and "disgusting male fantasy" doesn't really help
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:36 AM
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But with more kinky scenes, you can at least focuse on other, usually raw-presenting, things. Expressions, sounds, words or just straight up a close ups on genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:18 AM
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Instead of "I would like someone who's sexual values align with my own" it's always "I don't want to date a run-through WHORE 😡 blah blah twice as hard as grandfather blah blah half as good as grandmother". This one's funny, because I was shamed (yes, online) pretty much every time I said I want to be with person, whose outlook on sex is same or similar as mine. No name calling, no slut-shaming, nothing. I was even banned or r/Dating after I said "I don't think a person having one night stands w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:59 AM
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I wonder how many women would gladly put their body and mind through pregnancy and birth, if they'd plan to leave the baby. They should have that option, just as men, but I wonder how many would actually do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:51 AM
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Why women read/fantasies about dangerous, murderous r*pists? Is that healthy? Regular sex on camera is boring, because a viewer doesn't experience any of the things participants do. It may arouse you at the beginning, but 10 minutes of slow movement under sheet is hardly interesting thing to look at on screen
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:47 AM
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Because it looks good on camera. It's raw. "Vanilla" sex looks boring on camera, because you can't feel it. With rough acts, you at least can see the rawness. And since men are more visual it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:49 AM
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Praise kink and Degradation kink. Usually mixed together. Being submissive (as a man) or (fully) dominant Bondage, visual deprivation (blindfold)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:44 AM
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You seriously think just because men came, he is happy with sex? And we are supposed to be clueless gender here, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:28 PM
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Right. So if one person is not enjoying it, they (or rather "he", because we all know y'all just want men to actually be miserable) should stay and be unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:23 PM
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If it's a self report, then don't use it? It's not like it's me, who says there are only absolutes. You know you can be open minded and sex positive with a person you are in a monogamous relationship with? You don't have to actually ride whole football team, I promise you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:17 PM
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Somehow we started to discuss if enthusiastic sex is better than non-enthusiastic. Really, you couldn't make this shit up 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:13 PM
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So it's either "super shy and secluded forever virgin, who won't do more than kiss" or "been run through by whole frat house, promiscuous super slut"? There is nothing in-betwee
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:10 PM
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Literally few posts ago y'all were screaming about leaving guys not pleasuring you enough. You couldmt make this shit up,lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:06 PM
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Ah, so you don't actually have any point, just arguing basically semantics, LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:09 PM
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Lmao, dude A gets willingness and enthusiasm, dude B gets "fine, but with lights off", but it's not better, it's "different". Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:07 PM
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Lmao prove it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:05 PM
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Prove what? That doing a thing with one person and not wanting to do it with the other means first one got better treatment? This doesn't need proving. This is straight logic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:24 PM
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It...it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 12:18 PM
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But I thought women can sense the red flags? At least that was is always said here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:39 AM
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Not my fault y'all think piv is only valid thing to do during sex, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:38 AM
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"I can't imagine", "it seems like" It seems like a lot to me. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:03 AM
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If you are referring to me, I'm not a red piller. I just have female friends, who tell me how things goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:02 AM
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Then that means you are not attractive enough and have to use a little bit of manipulation. You still are considered (by her), a potential danger to her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:58 AM
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Given how many women have butterflies in stomach, for attractive killers, and how many mistake chaos, uncertainty and danger as "chemistry" and "vibe", I'd say hookups would be rarer if safety was a guarantee. It would be boring to them then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:53 AM
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Pick better guys then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:47 AM
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It's easier to orgasm as s man, and yet, most of (if not every time) the time, it's men who have to do all the work to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:42 AM
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serve as a warning to not date men like that again But they do continue to date men like that, and then complain about every men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:34 AM
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If you read other comments, women apparently do nothing BUT give out unprompted blowjobs every minute. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:25 AM
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And women still cry about orgasm gap
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:20 AM
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Miss out what? As far as comments here goes, women even dislike penetrative sex? Sex doesn't have to include PiV every time. As long as she orgasms and is satisfied, I'm satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:19 AM
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Yeah, this is just like regular things in a relationship, at least most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:22 PM
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You mean foreplay? Or the whole day before the act? You must be more specific here I love giving foreplay. Cuddling, carresing, massages, words As for the "during the day" I guess nothing? When I was in a relationship I was sure to always be supportive and giving (which, so far,never really "paid out"). I never lived with any of my girlfriends/partners, so no relieving them of chores, but I made sure to take them out on dates and stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:53 PM
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Well, for one, I wouldn't "accuse" a woman of being homosexual just because she doesn't want to suck my dick. I would have to say that to most of my female friends otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:14 PM
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I keep my hygiene top notch and mine dick looks like regular dick. Is it so hard to believe most women just don't want to give BJ's?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:00 PM
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Jesus fucking christ, why does every single thing have to be a response to some traumatic shit with you people? So EVERY woman I dated or talked to had EXACT same traumatic thing happening to them. And NONE were willing to say it, because of reasons (despite being willing to talk about other things) One of my exes (who was my first sexual partner) made me wear a sleeve because I was not big enough for her. I still can have normal sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:30 PM
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what do you mean by "agree to disagree"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:26 PM
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Women face no cunnilingus every day? I guess our problems aren't so different after all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:25 PM
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WHat can i say, except what is being said to us, men, whenever we share any problem - skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:24 PM
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If by traumatic experience you mean "i don't like it/i don't want to", then maybe. They were fine sharing other things with me, so i don't think they would hide some extra event regarding that. They just didn't want to do it. And i didn't press
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:24 PM
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Good for them i guess? Next step would be to stop complaining about men on every corner of the internet, if they decenter men so much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:22 PM
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Great, go tell that to all those lunatics talking about mid guys with pretty girls
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:20 PM
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Well then the same can be said in reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:12 PM
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Cool, I can count on one hand how many times I got bj (and wouldn't need any fingers to count how many times i finished because of it). Going down on a woman is my goal while having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:03 PM
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Then these women should stop engaging in sex with these men. there, solved the issue. You don't know which men are these? Have them make you orgasm first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:02 PM
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Awful lot of women still engage in it tho. If you do not, then what's the problem? You do not "suffer" from this "gap"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:01 PM
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I don't know. I would assume she does if she agrees to undress and have sex. All i'm saying is that women do not give head so often and willingly as these comments may claim
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:59 PM
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If you continue to have sex with them, after that - yes, that's on you. Be an adult, talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:58 PM
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Eh, when someone makes a point you agree with, but they phrase it in insufferable way... I do think the "orgasm gap" is rather self inflicted, but the way to close it is not to "strengthen the knees" and "make themselves to orgasm". It's to communicate, to want to experiment with positions, and to know your body. Speaking from my own experience, experience of my male friends and even from experience of some of my female friends, a lot of women DO NOT put any effort into sex. This doesn't mean th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:49 PM
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But that still would be on you tho. You are a grown adult person, you should be able to communicate youe needs and wants. Stating silent, going with the motions and then complaining is rather stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:39 PM
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What? From my talks with my friend (who were okay talking about about), blowjobs were such rarity, whereas eating the pussy was like main point of sex almost. I myself had 5 sexual partners and only of them were willing to give me head.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:29 PM
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I outside every day, and I don't see these average men dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:07 AM
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Im sure all those sloppy, lazy, unambitious men are in a relationship with all these beautiful and successful women. I am sure of it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:29 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:25 PM
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I believe a lot of men think they would rather have "dead bedroom relationship" than be single, but they would quickly change their mind after actually experiencing it. The fact that "society", a lot of times, also "advocates" for them to be unhappy in relationship doesn't help
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:27 AM
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> No it really isn't. You WILL survive without shelter. That's probably why plenty of homeless people die around winter, when they don;t have a shelter to hide from cold. Shelter is absolutely a need. Sex is not a biological need. It can be psychological need tho
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:01 AM
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If blue pill advice works so well, why do so many blue pill men get no women? Also calling women "bitches"...yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:59 AM
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Enjoy being used for sex...I guess? Y'all are weird tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:07 AM
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That's the issue... why am I expected to not be picked up by a man for a first date cuz he might kidnap me, then men say "why do women treat all mem, including me, like I am a danger" taking precautions, not fully trusting total stranger - bueno saying "all men are predators and must be treated as such at all times" - no bueno Show me a guy having problems with a woman just being cautious on first date and I'll tell her m, to his face, he is a fucking nutjob
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:51 PM
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"why men don't approach anymore? It's easy, just read the body language" She LITERALLY put her whole arm around me. She held me closer than my ex girlfriend did. "WeLl ThAt MaKeS sEnSe" aight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:53 PM
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Nope. Not leaving anything here. This is how the whole thing went down, word for word. No pushing from me, no creepy body language, nothing. I sang the song, she screamed how she loves the song, run up to me, put her arm around me and sang it with me. We finished, she went back to her friends, I went back to mine. They told me she was obviously into me, so I went to her. Rest is as I described earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:42 PM
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Not all the time, no. More often than ugly men with women to be honest. And due to increasing popularity of gym among young men, the overweight woman and fit/relatively fit man is more and more visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:40 PM
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You could at least try with the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:20 PM
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Cool cool I said "hi, my name is X" to a woman who moments before put her hand around me and sang with me on karaoke bar. I got the "don't speak to me" hand gesture and kater was asked to leave the bar for night, because she made a fuss about it. Please tell me more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:19 PM
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I'm sure you also work as a janitor. They always get the hottest women. Now I know you are just bullshitting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:15 PM
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And? I too dated a woman. Felt like navigating mine field. And that was someone who presumably already liked me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:43 PM
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It absolutely is not, lol. I could take my friends phone and find them boyfriends in one day (i actually did). On the other hand i've had my female friends throwing phone across the room in frustration over my OLD. Dating women is infinitely more difficult then dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:30 PM
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Gotta love when attractive people talk as if their "advice" is somewhat valuable. > get to know her for a month or two This is literally a way into friendzone. I know, because i've done it. > if she's interested in you she'll invite herself Yes, if you are attractive, girl will approach you. Shocking revelation. Not everybody are attractive though. I'm great dancer. If you'd ask among our community, one of the best in our town (i still doubt, but anyway). Women practically beg me to dance with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:27 PM
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I love how on r/tinder, any time a guy asks for a review, the general consensus is "don't show any speck of personality, be as bland as possible" And for women it's usually "looks great queen" (and it's a blurred photo of some girl in sink or whatever)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:58 PM
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So stop swiping on the obvious fuckboys and try focusing on other qualities? It's that easy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:55 PM
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Try picking up a girl in any board game cafe in my city and you would be banned from all of the , lol Third places are now to not sit in home only
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:49 PM
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We have spent last 20 years listening to women saying "the old fashioned" way is wrong and creepy and borderline rapey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:46 PM
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I'm not 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:32 PM
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I look ridiculous on photos, even if others tell me I look good. Something is always off. The only decent photosof me are the ones captured during dancing, but then I'm always with some girl on them, so not really great for a DATING app heh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:25 PM
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Oh yes, don;t get me wrong, i do agree most of apps users are the less attractive bunch
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:13 PM
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And i said i know. I just wanted to push back on the "men are not getting likes, because they don't put effort in their profiles".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:09 PM
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I wouldn't say so. When you are an attractive guy, and are about that life, dating apps are like steady supply of one night stands and hookup buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:07 PM
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> I said besides the draft, but okay haha. Feminism is very much in favor of ending the draft. That’s well documented. I know you said it, but i also know why women usually say "beside the draft" > Re: retirement age The propositions were in three directions. Raise for women, lower for men, meet in the middle. All these options were met with vitriol, for some fucking reason. > Re: men’s mental health Next time i'll take screenshots and take photos of vandalized billboards and signs. Of course no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:04 PM
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They didn't mean strangers. They meant any man - known or unknown. And if you read enough posts here, you will also see women not wanting any approaching by friends too. > None of that means disrespecting a woman's boundaries. It just means most women don't want to be asked out by strangers in a hobby space because they're there to enjoy the hobby. That doesn't mean that if you vibe with a woman in a hobby space, make plans to grab a cup of coffee or a drink after, and are enjoying each other's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:54 PM
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Well, sure. I know that. Though i have few friends (male) who do have quite a few likes/matches. They are handsome and tall tho (which is understandable)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:37 PM
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Where exactly, in this comment chain, were you talking to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:38 AM
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Nuances, we need nuances and context. > How do women "advertise" themselves? they beautify themselves, makeup, tight clothing, showing skin, etc. Is she doing these things when with you? You go out on date, or just about your day. Is she doing all the makeup, clothing etc for you? Or ONLY when she goes out with her friends to a club? > they post themselves on social media (especially if their DMs are open) What do they post? A selfie from cafe, with her friend? A pic from recent hike? Or a thirs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:37 AM
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> Be happy if your significant other is getting attention- would you want them if they were not someone who did? This is what you literally wrote. Men don't care if a woman gets attention. They only care if they like her. Never in my life i though to myself "well, she doesn't get any attention from men, so i don't want her"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:31 AM
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> would you want them if they were not someone who did? Unlike women, apparently at least, men don't go only for small percentage of women, who get the most attention from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:27 AM
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Yes. in public. I ride public transit to and from work everyday. I see it maybe among older generations, but even then i'd assume they are "ugly", because they are older. Younger ones? (like younger millennials and gen z) - not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:08 AM
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Yes, i do. Everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:44 AM
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I just told you i don't see ugly men coupled up everywhere, as many like to claim, but even if... > they find other things attractive about those men and not their looks so much ...that still means they are not attracted to these guys. And i'd rather be single, than be with someone who doesn't find me attractive, but "he always can make me laugh" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:31 AM
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Tell that to fellow women online, i guess? > you see ugly men with women all the time This is always interesting to me, because every time someone says "oh go outside, there are X men with women everywhere!", i start to consciously observing couples around me and no, there are no ugly/short/whatever men with beautiful women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:25 AM
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I fully agree with your whole comment. The problem is i also don't know how to attract women. One could logically think "well, why don't you ask your successful male friends?" The answer? They don't know either. They just got blessed with face and height and luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:00 AM
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Going with my (european) country - draft (sure, it's inactive, but in light of global events, it could be activated anytime, and only men would be drafted), with comments from female politicians such as "someone has to die" - retirement age - it's lower for women. Men, despite living shorter, have higher retirement age. It has been a battle for some time already, but recently even one female politician suggested making it even (though i'm not sure if she want to even it up or down) and sheer vit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:52 AM
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> That women are simply not physically attracted to the 80%- 90% of the rest of the male users? This
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:34 AM
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I changed my mind. This is wild. I assume i'm talking to a grown up, when speaking with women my age, therefore i'll be treating them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:33 AM
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It is wild to completely disregard women's boundaries, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:23 AM
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I always fill up my profile in 100%, and it was done and redone by multiple female friends (from just pointers to full work). They "don't know" why I am not getting any likes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:17 AM
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I mean that's all valid, but numerous of my female friends and acquaintances have also said they don't want to be asked out during doing some hobby, or being out with friends in bars/clubs/board games meet ups etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:14 AM
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Okay, I was just responding to somewhat condescending "they are unattractive, so they try be nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:50 PM
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No, i wouldn't date "a bitch". What is your point here? A nice person is a nice person. Rarely have I met a person who was merely pretending to be such. Attractive or unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:30 PM
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Yes, I'd date a woman I'm attracted to, who does nice things to or for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:09 PM
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I am an ugly dude being the life of a party. Doesn't help with shit. Maybe with "hah you are so funny, is your friend single?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:46 PM
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> they aren’t attractive, so they use the 'Nice Guy' label to overcompensate for their looks Aren't men told all the time that personality matters more than looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:11 AM
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In defense of this statement, women (online) are very vocal about not finding most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:55 AM
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Are we talking about dating? Marriage? What is the context here? I imagine a "value" woman brings is the same as men's. For a child to be born, assuming only biological and "natural" ways, both genders are needed. > The way many of these women judge whether a man is generous or not is if he does or doesn't split the bill on dates and many of them seem to lack self awareness because while wanting men to be generous they're not even generous enough to want to pay for themselves on dates. Yes, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:42 AM
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This is some kind of smut built around a strawman. Truly fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:22 AM
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My parents are together. They had their ups and downs, but the still are together, and as far as i can tell - they love each other. Most of my peers also come from married two parents homes. There are some divorces, but not many and usually later in life. > how many men in this sub say they always grew up thinking they would get married and have children. Well, i was being told that pretty much since birth. It was like a guarantee. Of course, when i got older (meaning like teen years) i realized…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:13 AM
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Your concerns are valid. No matter if they are logical or not, they are valid. You know what's also valid? Other person's wants and needs. If you are not satisfied with your relationship, and it cannot be changed, end it. Drastic, i know. I was in such a relationship and i also didn't end it when i should, because i thought things can be worked out, talked out. They couldn't and i destroyed myself because of it. Just break up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:00 AM
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> Only if they are insecure. Why are people still using insecurity as a moral failing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:58 AM
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It's supposed to be, sure. But every post here is "women do this crazy thing! Women bad" and "men do this crazy thing, men bad", with occasional sane and interesting post (like the one about friendship influencing relationships)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:37 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:31 AM
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That's my point. This sub is just mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:30 AM
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Man vs bear is another problem, but I no longer want to discuss it, because it's futile. Right now I'm talking about women saying all men are sex crazed animals, are inherently violent predators etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:17 AM
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You are literally trying to explain how it works for her, so y'all even
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:10 AM
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I agree, it's crazy. Just as crazy as comparing men to animals. This sub is overall crazy place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:09 AM
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This sub is literally the place for men and women to complain, vent and create strawman and imaginary scenarios, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:05 AM
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Oh yeah, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:53 PM
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> But would you even want to be that close to your female friends? Like you initially mentioned the only overlap with friendships and relationships is wanting to spend time etc. The things men often say online anyway are that they would consider this as being ‘orbiters’ since they don’t get sex or women extracting ‘boyfriend treatment’ from them. I think the problem with being an "orbiter" and just being close friends, is how a woman is treating a man in this kind of relationship. I was a friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:42 PM
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Because if a man is venting, just talking about his dating problems, that means he is not desirable. And since he not desirable, that means something is surely wrong with him. And since women here like to operate under the "just world" fallacy when it suits them, they assume (or pretend to assume) the "wrong" is something inherently vile
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:09 PM
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> Near every woman would choose the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:06 PM
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That nearly all women don't desire men sexually and would be okay with no sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:59 PM
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> But to me yeah remembering birthdays is basic af and yes with my best friend on some days I’ll know what she had for breakfast, lunch and dinner but generally in my group chats someone being sick is something that would come up. That's of course valid. I didn't want to sound like i don't care about my friends birthdays (or don't care about them at all, besides going for a beer). I either somehow remember ("somehow", because i have shit memory, and after covid it got fucked up even more) some b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:52 PM
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But when a man says it here, he get's called an incel, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:17 PM
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A person trusts and respects you enough to put themselves in a very vulnerable and intimate position/situation with you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:14 PM
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> Or because you guys don't particularly advertise yourselfs to make women want you in the first place. Don't women have a responsive desire? Meaning no man could possibly advertise himself enough for women to approach him on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:07 PM
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Answer to your question I don't think my friendships shape my expectations in a romantic relationships. I expect different things from my friends and from women i'm dating, and the only overlap is "likes and wants to spend some time together". I don't care if my friends remember my birthdays, or if they check on me when i'm sick (and to be honest, how would they know? Am i supposed to send big group message with "hi all, i'm sick"?). All i want from them is to invite me for meet up from time to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:21 AM
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I think (therefore it is only my personal belief) it comes directly from two "sources": Men see/know jerks/assholes/bullies who have no problems getting girls. I personally have 3 female friends (not really close, rather "friend's group") who are dating really unpleasant dudes, while they (the girls) are just regular, nice and kind. This is more chronically online source - for over a decade (if not longer), the online consensus is "men should not approach women irl". Women (online) kept saying m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:59 AM
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Though i agree that fantasy (books, movies, games etc) are just fantasy and rarely indicative of real world desires, i find it very funny, how a lot of women keep saying "men are given literal guides (romance/romantasy books) and still fail!!11"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:53 AM
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Unless a person is neurodivergent and takes everything literally and at face value (at least I assume such case), they should realize as early as middle/high school, that just being nice won't warrant them a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:15 PM
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Yes, women should definitely reject men, that don't treat them like they would like to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:58 AM
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Well, that's your preference, which is of course valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:48 AM
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Okay, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:37 AM
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Even if, then a woman can just throw him in the trash. I'm not asking for complete switch up in dating game, because i know it's not possible (and profitable for women). I'm just asking out of curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:36 AM
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> I'm old fashioned and like the idea of the man being "in charge" Out of curiosity, if i may ask - do you defer to the man entirely? Or just when it comes to approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:32 AM
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But active woman doesn't have to be easy? Why showing at least some effort, initiate contact from time to time and just overall not be living doll, waiting for to be picked and lead through dating life is seen as "being easy" by women? You met some dude, decided you like him and approached him with dating or whatever. And then you do usual observing on how he acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:30 AM
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Because they can? Why would they put any effort and take an initiative, when they can just sit back and enjoy the show?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:01 AM
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"Be yourself" is absolutely worst advice given to men, in context of dating. Unless "yourself" is inherently attractive to most women, you cannot be yourself, if you want to see results. Doesn't mean you have create whole fake persona, even "showing your bes side" is hiding your true "yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:48 AM
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Aight, my bad Though you are asking wrong person, because I'm all for warm approach/meeting women via circles and friends. You should direct this question to women :V
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:59 PM
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Among my friends (and just all around social circles), mostly apps, few lucky hits with cold approach. Though most of my male friends are single, only the tall and good looking ones are dating, and female friends are also dating good looking dudes (which is like, obvious. People want to be with attractive people). This is obviously relatively small sample size, although rather diverse edit to add As much as we meet socially either in flat, out in bar or backyard or whatever, only time someone br…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:50 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:41 PM
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If you've been with 20 women, you are not mid at all, my dude. I'm sorry, but this reads like humble brag a bit :v (though i believe you, that it wasn't the intent)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:39 PM
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At least you are honest and consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:36 PM
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Are you saying women with high bc are gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:34 PM
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If i remember correctly, you said elsewhere you've been with around 20 women. So we are not entirely in the same boat XD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:31 PM
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Also, yes, i am becoming jaded and bitter, because i am unsuccessful in dating and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:17 PM
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> Pursue your hobbies but don't refuse social gatherings. Someone from your hobby invites you to a barbecue, just go have fun. Maybe the hosts cousin will attend with his sister and her best friend. And lo and behold you and your friend's cousin's sister's friend hit it ofr, conversation flows, the vibe is good, you have fun and you get yourself a date. This sounds like average "small town romance" movie. I don't know anybody who met their partner this way, in my generation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:16 PM
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Sure. That's why i don't base my views entirely on my worst experiences. I just made snarky response to "guys in relationships are well sexed and happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:03 PM
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And you just completely proved my point. Why does threads and posts about men's issue being hijacked by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:57 AM
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It's a decision alright. Wouldn't call it wise, but i'm not in a place to judge this decision. I can, however, still say this decision is what's driving the "market". So yes, women are to blame for current dating culture
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:20 AM
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> What surprised me really, is that this pattern happens under 90% of my posts. I post about men's issues and men are simply unable to talk about them Because you are not "posting about men's issues". You are creating strawman arguments and scenario, where you can blame and insult men for everything > They can't really talk about men at all. They mock me when i try to talk about men. Or attack me. Because your posts and comments are mocking and attacking men. > But they don't create their posts …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:16 AM
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> or befriend them Oh no, the horrors of being a friends!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:32 AM
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Ah yes, i remember my happy relationship. Everyone was telling me how lucky i am, how i should do absolutely everything i can to keep her happy. That when she is giggling and making "fuck me" eyes to other men means i have to step up my game, try harder, because she is best thing that could happen to me. Yes, best time of my life, with panic attacks (which never happened before, and aren't happening now, after the break up), self doubts, self esteem plummeting like wall street stocks. Oh, and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:18 AM
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I walk outside everyday, i see attractive dudes with ugly girl everyday. I see gym rats or skinny dudes with overweight women all day. I rarely see absolutely beautiful girls with average looking dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:11 AM
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Nice way of just changing the topic, lol A lot of men are offering basics + extra, but they are just not attractive enough. And a lot of women are not offering basic, while demanding extra, then they go online (for example o PPD) and lead some man-hating campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:06 AM
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Because "an informed and discerning customer" is thinking an average to good product is "subpar", for not being made out of gold for fraction of the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:02 AM
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If we are blaming someone for "modern dating culture", than yes, i do blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:56 AM
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> required as extra An "extra" is not required. What's required is bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:54 AM
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Women are driving force behind "modern dating culture"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:30 AM
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You expect men to do all that, for them to be seen as worthy dating you, but you are not doing the same. Did you not understand the response?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:25 AM
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Gotta love all these responses, when even women themselves ain't doing all that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:21 AM
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I love how women essentially fantasies about some supposed "locker room talks", where men stand in a circle and drool over some woman, describing in details how they consider her only a fuckdoll, when in reality it is like: you seen Lucy in that dress? yeah fuckin hot yeah anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:29 PM
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I mean, it's not my opinion. It's women's, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:16 PM
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more like women: "... at a bar, hobbies, friends of friends" also women: "don't approach us at a bar, hobbies and as a friends!" ppd men: "...what"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:49 PM
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I'm being facetious here, though with a bit of seriousness. I will say, though, pretty much all of my female friends said at one point they don't like this way of meeting new men, so i'm not sure what do they expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:45 PM
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Too much of a potential drama
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:56 AM
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> enjoy socializing with other people - even with women!! Yes. But if they want to find a date specifically, they have to interact to date, not only "socialize"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:56 AM
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From now on, i decided that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are positive, masculine role models. After all, they are government officials.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:21 AM
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> You don't interact to date. The most women viewpoint ever. A man has to interact to date...to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:16 AM
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It really depends on all previous interactions. If he is really neutral, that means he didn't show her his attraction. That would be like a clean slate. If he, however, did show her, he is interested and she rejected him for whatever reason, then i'd just assume her main guy was not interested and i am a consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:13 AM
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There are no dating problems, so there is nothing to fix. And definitely nothing for government to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:49 AM
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Sounds reasonable, but also why would i (or anybody) being there already with a friends group try mingling with any other group? It's obvious that the point would be to pick up a girl you saw and thought is pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:43 AM
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Ah yes, places notorious for "women go there to have fun with their friends, not to interact with men" Would be cool tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:43 AM
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I swear to god, every single women nowadays is some kind of world traveler...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:34 PM
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How does your ideal woman (or man) dress like? I am a big fan of 1930s - 1950s style (both male and female), though I wouldn't expect her to dress like that. I also won't pretend I don't like skin tight or but revealing clothes on women. Bottom line would be for her to dress for an occasion. What values do you think she might communicate through her own clothing? Creativity? I don't know if it's a value. A lot of women dressing "retro" or "vintage" also tend to be more on conservative/traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:22 PM
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I don't care about labia Different women taste different
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:47 PM
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> I willing to bet if a woman told a man to go to the gym and improve in the looks department (very normal advice) you'd still wouldn't like the advice. Except women are still saying they "don't like gym bodies", only to drool over a dude with abs. Women are saying this, just indirectly, therefore many men go to the gym because that. > Then comes Clavicular, says exactly the same only he calls it "looksmaxxing" and you all drool all over the guy You all are having this weird fixation over some a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:40 PM
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“well what was he wearing?” Isn’t a thing, No, but "a man cannot be raped, because he is a man" is and sexual violence (both by a partner and non partner) is notably more likely to happen to women than men On a street, in a full day, with people around just watching? Where are you living?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:18 PM
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A man. A man is more likely to be all these things. You know why? Because people would rush in a second to help a woman being assaulted, while a man "is a man, so he probably likes it, lucky guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:12 PM
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Can they? Where i live (an European country, big city) it's illegal for anybody to walk topless in public (unless it's a beach/beach-type of a place). Men with visible muscle mass and low body fat are also sexualized a lot by women. It's just that fewer men are sexualized vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:31 PM
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I disagree with the title. The body - i somewhat agree, but not in the context of this post. Yes, you shouldn't try to impress a woman who isn't showing any sign of interest in you. However, if you stop trying to get any woman to like you at all, well have fun being single forever, then. > If she genuinely likes you then you are a lucky "single-digit-percenter". Most men have to somehow impress a woman to get her to like them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:23 PM
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My ex-gf was like two different women with and without makeup. I have several female friends, who will go from 0 to 100 with few hours spent in front of mirror. Bringing this discussion to "oh you think women have glittery eyes" is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:06 AM
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I have been told, by women, that my way of dressing is deception, because in clothes i look like having better body than without, so there's that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:04 AM
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> Strangely enough... Strangely enough, "advice" given by my female friends was as useless, because i'm below the "arbitrary line below which no woman will ever find me attractive" I don't know what advice your "equally gooberish male peers" were giving you, but i still stand by that you were attractive enough for women to notice you and you just had to chill a bit. That's it. My MALE friends also told me to not come on too strong (even though i never did, but anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:01 AM
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I fucking hate both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:07 AM
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> There are tons of activity bars Can't even think of one, to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 10:03 AM
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"the whole experience" is a loud, shitty music, overpriced drinks, high chance of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:59 AM
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99% of men you notice. Which is not your fault, or anybody's fault really
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:56 AM
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"So i was attractive enough to attract women, i just came too strong. The groundbreaking advice of "don't come too strong" only a woman could give me helped me immensely" Wanna bet you'd do good even if you'd still come too strong?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:45 AM
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People want what they can't have. It barely crosses your mind, because you know you could get it anytime of the day, without much problem. For me, i'm not sure if it's more societal pressure or my genuine want. I've been, of course, taught from earliest years, that a single man is a loser, not worth anything and it was drilled in my head by pretty much every person from my surrounding - from parents to teachers. But i can't just wave away my biological needs and wants also. I want female validat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:37 AM
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Yup, same here. The pressure was coming from pretty much everyone - parents, teachers, schoolmates, media etc. I know women experienced same pressure, but i think, nowadays, a single man is still seen as a loser, whereas single woman is seen as just single woman. So the pressure is still there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:25 AM
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They don't tho? There are countless women talking about men looking at them at the gym, or throwing massive fits, because some dude asked/tried giving his number. Once, a big gay dude gave me his number in a bus. I'm straight. I was riding that high for a week
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:29 AM
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> And not doing so feels like rejection. Probably comes from having very huggy and attentive parents who didn’t ignore me when growing up TBH it can be both ways, because NOT having huggy parents can also lead to "developing" "touch as love language". I remember when i started dancing Balboa, which requires you to be very close to your dance partner, and first time i got in position, and my friend pretty much deep-hugged me, i almost melted :V
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:26 PM
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Yup, same as women writing gifts are her love language, which just means "buy me expensive stuff"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:20 PM
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I hate how "the touch" is being taken as sex only, as it's my love language, if i had to choose one. And to me that means pretty much all kind of touch
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:18 PM
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> Cool what happened? Be specific as and list out the steps…I’m serious by the way. The scenario was pretty much the same every time. I entered the community (we are not officially a dancing school, but rather a community that hosts classes, workshops, social dances etc), met new people. Built some raport by spending time together, either during these dances or outside of, started liking one of the girls more. Ask her out. Got rejected. Rinse and repeat. I don't know how more specific i can be. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:45 AM
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> OK then just start asking them out like I did > OK if you’re dancer you generally have decent shape or body I don't > Get your style up get some confidence up I'm fly as fuck (and not only according to me) > What’s the matter with you? I'm not attractive enough. I already said it :V
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:39 AM
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I think it's in response of constant flood of man-hating, strawman posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:11 AM
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That's why so many women, at one point of their life, rush to marry and have a child? "Biological alarm" isn't the infamous "wall".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:10 AM
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It may be because i'm young enough to grow up in already globalized (so americanized) society, but i'm seeing the same approach being applied to dating here in Poland. > I've got many examples but the height thing is such a perfect one, because that topic of conversation didn't meaningfully exist here 10 years ago I definitely was hearing i'm way too short 10 years ago, just as much as i hear today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:33 AM
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The amount of men, liking vastly different types of women, trumps the amount of women liking different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:53 AM
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29, have to update it I'm also not from US, though in my country, younger people already started to parrot behaviors from there. Even if "most" women are into that nonsense, it is never "all". At the end of the day, it only takes 1. I kind of hate this sentiment, because sure - it only takes one. And you can very well not find this one ever, because you have no options and occasions whatsoever. I can't imagine having to "maxx" and be something I'm not, that sounds so miserable. Is it really wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:06 PM
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Men are "obsessed with looks and money maxxing", because seemingly, majority of women are still mainly attracted to that. Which isn't inherently wrong, to be clear. But I can tell, from my experience, that "hustle culture" intertwined with dating among younger generations. Everybody wants to be an influencer, posting on SM about their travels and business. I recently came back on apps, after about 2 years of break, and let me tell you this - after swiping for a week, I haven't seen one grounded …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:24 PM
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I'm surrounded by women, am considered one of the best dancers in our comm, pretty much everybody know me and yet i'm still not attractive enough for any of these girls to date me. I'm being social and it gave me new friends. That's very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:07 PM
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Yes, that's how halo effect works. Ugly guy will be super funny and people will say he is super funny. Attractive guy still will be "funnier", because he is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:06 PM
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> Over analyzing is one thing, but don't pretend "halo effect" isn't real. This is literally a point of my comment. That's it. Now do you want to discuss the topic, or do you want to ignore it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:49 AM
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> So it has nothing to do with avoiding ridicule. They have never thought hard about what they wanted. Alot of times, thats due to misogyny. Or maybe they just don't want to write whole list every time similar topic is brought up? > Notice how you avoided acknowledging that their actions led to not getting the advice they wanted? Because this "argument" is in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:46 AM
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ratsareniceanimals responded to my comment about halo effect. Not about OP's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:45 AM
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No, we are not. We are talking about halo effect. Ugly can can be hella funny. Attractive guy will be seen as more funny, because he is more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:36 AM
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Dude, are you really trying to equate showing clear signs of romantic intentions and sending a dick pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:31 AM
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And i'm willing to bet a cash that (assuming they both take part in it) Matt still gets laid more than Louis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:54 AM
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> Motte and Bailey fallacy. You act like it’s not deserved. An asshole being called out does not mean any guy. You even ridicule men here, without hearing their list. It's not a Motte and Bailey fallacy. It's just a fact. > They’re getting criticized for that too. Yes, exactly. No matter what we do, we are getting criticized > So what the fuck are they complaining about? They bitch about women giving them bad dating advice Probably about women giving bad advice and then trying to gaslight them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:53 AM
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> Going into a social setting where we were both there and edging me out of the circle, ignoring me if I asked a question or said something directly to him, and only speaking to me to demean me is justified? This is a context you did not provide earlier, which changes a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:49 AM
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I also don't always like the fact that i'm liked or loved for what i can provide, but wanting unconditional love is very childish and naive. And if you are giving someone an unconditional love, you should stop and reevaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:37 AM
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I also don't always like the fact that i'm liked or loved for what i can provide, but wanting unconditional love is very childish and naive. And if you are giving someone an unconditional love, you should stop and reevaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:37 AM
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You may still not have casual sex/a relationship, but at least you think you are more confident now! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:15 AM
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They do. They approach men they REALLY like and are ready to face a potential, though very rare, rejection. Of course they won't approach a guy they don't find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:11 AM
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The moment any guy gives an actual list of "what i want in a girlfriend" he gets ridiculed online. So of course many guys will just say super general things, that are obvious and somewhat acceptable (and still get shit for it, lol), but internally will have their list
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:05 AM
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I don't know what was exactly in his head or heart, but if he had strong romantic feelings, staying close friends would just be bad for his mental. I know we like to throw absolute truisms around, but not everybody is capable of shitting down their feelings, because "that's what they are supposed to do". So, in my opinion, ending such a friendship is justified
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:56 AM
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So the guy gave you non-fixed numbers and qualities and he suddenly "don't want to comprise on", but at the same time, when a guy says very general things (attractive, nice) they lack introspection?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:27 AM
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She is a women - different rules apply
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:59 AM
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I'd say one is the number, and then a man should change his social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:58 AM
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What being in a friendzone has to do with having a friend group?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:40 AM
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It's absurd only if you want to date EVERY woman you meet. I know a lot of drop dead gorgeous women, who i wouldn't want to date, because i know we wouldn't work as a couple. But we do work as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:39 AM
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> he felt justified in ignoring This is, in my opinion, justified > talking shit about me because I “friendzoned him.” This is just a shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:32 AM
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I think friendzone exist very much, but it's not what some people think it is. And it's definitely not "being friends". For me, the friendzone is a state a man put himself in, once he gets rejected, and he is the only one to blame for it. > For those who believe in it, do you think you can make your way out No, i don't think you can "get out of friendzone", but only by my definition of it. You got rejected. It's done. Nagging and wearing her down won't work. Move on > is prevention the way to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:30 AM
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> Boy does a stupid thing "boys will be boys" a girl does a stupid thing "this is the end of the world" Have actually experienced/witnessed it in real life? Because i haven't. When a kid did stupid thing, he/she did a stupid thing, and based on the weight of this stupid thing, the punishment (or lack of it) was dealt. > Like an underage girl getting pregnant is seen as an end of the world, while an underage boy impregnating a girl is treated like nothing happened. Again - what? Have you witnesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:46 AM
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Over analyzing is one thing, but don't pretend "halo effect" isn't real. Attractive people will always get away with more and be better received than unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:11 AM
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"forget about chasing women" said to a man feeling lonely is also not really a good advice, because he wants to find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:57 PM
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If it happens 10/10, then that means it happens everytime. because others report more positive experience Yes, my friends report a negative experience with women constantly saying "muh peace", whenever they were asked to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:02 PM
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Source? My previous relationship. With a woman going to therapy, may I add. Also relationship of my cousin and couple of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:47 PM
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Are you also willing to enhance his life, even if it means sacrificing a bit out of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:35 PM
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If I'd say a play video games 24/7, eat only chicken nuggets and live with my mom, but I'm looking for a woman who will only add to my life, and she better not expect me to do anything, because that's my peace, I'd be (rightfully so) called deranged, at best. Self-esteem is good, strong sense of self worth is good. Selfishness is not. When one feels the need to exclaim how they are protecting their peace, 9/10 they are just selfish. This is straight up "female dating strategy"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:26 PM
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If it works for you, go for it, i guess. I still think it's a dogshit advice and toxic way of living/thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:01 PM
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Objectifying someone, who did not gave you their consent for that is wrong A person deciding to do whatever they want to, as long as they are not harming others, is not wrong. A double standard would be a woman slapping you across the face, because you looked at her butt, and then starring at your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:00 PM
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See, that's why i don't think of myself as red pilled, at least not here. While this: > improve yourself to pass the looks filter is true and good "avice". This: > treat women as lesser and irrelevant because that's what they're attracted to is dogshit, unless you only want to attract women with problems. But then you should just outright say "This advice is for "attracting" women with problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:56 PM
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Sure, but would like to hear "it's over. Be alone for the rest of your life"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:54 PM
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After reading all the comments here i decided to agree with OP and everyone else. From now on, i will be protecting my peace, meaning i won't change a damn thing in my life and any woman better takes me as i am without any complaining! And better not insult guys here, who talk about their struggles and how "they should work on themselves". they are just protecting their peace! /S if not obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:44 PM
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> Literally no one agrees with you. I don't care if a bunch of man-hating people don't agree with me. > A woman protecting her peace = not getting into a relationship where "one side refuses to add anything and only take, then said relationship isn't the healthiest" That is the entire point of the post. What every single person here has been trying to explain to you AD-NAUSEUM. You literally agree with us but you're arguing anyways Funny how it implies YOU are agreeing with me, but argue anyway,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:15 PM
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Warmer? I've been saying this from the get go XD It's you, who are hung up on....you know what, i won't even saying the phrase again, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:04 PM
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In my opinion, it depends on how far in between were these attempts. Did you ask out 3 different women in span of one week? One month? Or one year? If you asked them back to back to back, then i'm not surprised the response were negative. I would decline if i knew a girl got shot down by one of my mates and she immediately came to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:50 PM
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They are being given, because there is no really good and universal advice to give. If people were honest on this, every time someone would ask such a question, top response would be "sucks to suck".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:43 PM
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> So basically asking out women in your offline circles is not a solution It never was. If it's rather big circle, you could maybe get away with2, maybe 3 tries (and obviously not one after another), but after that, you are basically "this guy who hits on everybody". That's why, if you want to go with this approach, you have to practically either have multiple big social circles, or just poses the ability to quickly change/find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:31 PM
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Being "loyal" because you can't cheat is not being loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:26 PM
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Nowhere in the post, or comments, OP, nor anyone arguing with me, said anything about this relationship being "mutually considerate". It's all about "woman protecting her peace" which would make the relationship one-sided. > You saying something over and over and bastardizing what people are explaining to you is bad faith engagement. Right back at ya
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:25 PM
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But you did not explain anything. You just said some truism, but when it is suggested that women saying these truism are just selfish in relationship, you (and other) start tweaking. A person wanting mutually egalitarian relationship is not approaching dating with "i will protect my peace!" attitude. This is approach of someone wanting one-sided "relationship", where they can sit back and take, and when first bit of problem arrives, they immidietely bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:12 PM
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I think women approaching dating with "imma get mine, and won't give back anything" are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:50 PM
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Sure, sure. That's why abusive men have no problems finding new relationships. If your peace is just "not being with abusive or toxic man" then that's not very high standard, and about 90% of men in the world already cover it. As i already said in a different comment - i already was with a woman who was constantly "protecting her peace". Easily most toxic person i have ever known, but since she was a woman, everything was forgiven by others. I learned my lesson and i know what to do, when i hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:17 PM
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Yes, being in a wrong relationship, with a wrong person is bad, and anybody feeling they are in one should end it, for their own sake. And no one should approach dating with "protecting my peace" and expecting it to be a healthy way. You are not protecting yours, you are creating new peace with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:11 PM
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If being single brings you peace, and being in a relationship attacks your peace, then you should stay single and shouldn't bring this attitude to dating. It should really be obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:30 AM
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> Because that's what men want in a woman. And what they mean by that is a woman who will do everything so he doesn't have to. AND never complain about it. Thus, he thinks thats what we mean when we say the same. That's why he keeps repeating that. He cannot fathom it meaning anything else. He cannot fathom it meaning EQUAL peace. *me, when i'm wrong and batshit crazy, lol > Men suck honestly And this is exactly why "women protecting their peace" are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:29 AM
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> Of course relationships are compromises and a relationship might not always be sunshine and rainbows This is the key sentiment people in this thread (especially OP) don't understand (or are not willing to understand). Not wanting to be with someone who only makes you life worse is obvious and correct way. "Protecting your peace" is code word for being selfish and unwilling to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:26 AM
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Not you, at least haven't seen you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:22 AM
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Yes, but when one side refuses to add anything and only take, then said relationship isn't the healthiest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:20 AM
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OP, and most women here, express both of these sentiments, which can be seen in post and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:12 AM
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What's fascinating is this "female dating strategy"-y type of posts and sentiments of "protecting ones peace", because when men show such behviour, they are getting shut down and called names very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:08 AM
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Guilt trip? Asking women to put in a work in relationship is a "guilt trip". Gee, i'm sorry. You don't have to date someone you don't want to, but approaching dating with the mentality "i'll just take and won't give anything, muh peace" is just a toxic way. That's it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:03 AM
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And i've seen women here saying equal, egalitarian relationship is abusive, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:54 AM
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You'd have to ask more specific, maybe with an example, because i can't really think of anything right now (and currently i'm not in a relationship). In my previous one i sacrificed money, time, comfort, at the end also dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:53 AM
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I'd...get to spend time with my partner? If you want to call it "a gain" then i'd gain more time with someone i supposedly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:44 AM
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If you go into a relationship with a mindset of "i'm gonna protect my peace, he better be worth of me", then you are a toxic person. That's it. > That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t put in effort That's the whole point. They are not willing to put any effort, because their peace is more important to them. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:43 AM
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It depends on a situation, but compromises can be small and big. For example, i have kind of fixed schedule of hobbies and spending free time. I'd be willing to compromise on it, by for example, limiting one way of spending free time for a way my partner would like to spend time with me. That's just an example. But i am a person who is willing to work in a relationship and i already was with a girl who was not, because "her peace".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:35 AM
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Compromise IS touching your peace. If your peace is going for the same restaurant every time, but your partner wants to try different one, and you compromise and rotate, then you already touched your peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:23 AM
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Holy fuck asking for an egalitarian relationship is now being abusive/being a man-baby. PPD in a peak form, i see
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:19 AM
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Compromises are big and small. If you are unwilling to do ANY compromise, because it will attack you precious peace, then YOU are unfit for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:16 AM
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Yes, i know you are a man. But a lot of men here also like to degrade themselves, don't really know why. And to be in a relationship, you have to first meet someone with whom you will form this relationship. With no options, you won't meet this "someone". With plethora of options, you have higher chance to do so. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:14 AM
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If i'm in a relationship, i think i'm entitled to ask to being loved. Or is this also "attacking your peace"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:13 AM
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> neither my partner nor me has ever had to agree to a compromise You said it youself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:12 AM
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This: > doesn't attack out peace. Directly contradicts being willing to do the mutual egalitarian work in a relationship. If you are willing to do the work, you are willing to sacrifice you peace in some areas edit: unless, of course, at the first problem you are just breaking up. But that's hardly a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:07 AM
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If she doesn't want to be in a relationship, it doesn't matter if it's me or someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:01 AM
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Yes, i know women here are not capable of loving their, supposed, partners. I can see it very clear. That's why i'm saying women here keep saying a loving partner is a bad option to them, because he asks to be loved too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:57 AM
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It's nice that both of you just put demands and are not willing to listen to each other. I hope it will work for you forever, but wouldn't be surprised if "the divorce came out of nowhere"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:53 AM
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I know people here can't understand that men want to be loved too, i don't know if it comes from malice or just ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:51 AM
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Yes. That's what i'm saying. Women who keep talking about "protecting their peace" are not willing to do the mutual egalitarian work in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:47 AM
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You are not making any sense here. you are trying to cover your (or women's) unwillingness to work in a relationship by saying "well you are not desirable" Plus, what's funny, is you are implying here that desirable dudes don't have to work in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:46 AM
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I'm saying having plethora options means some of these options will be good. But since to most women (at least here) a regular Joe, trying his best to make a relationship work, is a "bad option", because he dared to ask to be loved too, then...well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:08 AM
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Sure, they say they don't want a men who "just takes", but they still default into "...but i will also only take and don't give anything (because peace)"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:06 AM
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Relationships are compromises, they require you to put some work, not only sit back and say "add to my life, while I won't do/change a thing, because I'm protecting my peace"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:00 AM
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People wanting a relationship do not say "oh you have to compete with my peace". A relationship means making compromises, sacrificing something, for relationship to work. Saying "compete with my peace" means a woman does not want to work inside a relationship, only to take
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:59 AM
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Ah, implied...sure. No, men say "having options is better than no options"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:57 AM
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> This is why you often see these men be like “at least you have options no matter how bad they are!” No man ever said "no matter how bad they are"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:53 AM
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> attracting more or less anyone, whether that’s friends, colleagues This is true, however this: > dating be easy af Has million more variables then just "be chill and leave people with a positive feeling afterwards"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:53 AM
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> They are also competing with the peace a woman feels when she is single. This one sentence let's me know that a woman is a toxic person. Plus, if i have to COMPETE with her "peace" then that means she doesn't want to be in a relationship, so why even try? it would be a bad one from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:50 AM
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That's weak ragebait
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:13 AM
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Cool Am not living in us though. Plus, I'm also not living by statistics, but by what I experience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:30 PM
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Where did I say feminism is my ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:00 PM
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Eh? What ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:30 PM
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None of my female friends, who do casual, ever complained. Beside one, who couldn't find time for more guys
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:04 PM
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It's funny, because i had her blocked for some time and my feed suddenly was a lot emptier with PPD posts. Now that i had to unblock her, i see her slop pretty much all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:52 PM
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Never met any woman who would be okay with splitting bill on a date. No matter how progressive she was, splitting bill was the ultimate ick. In fact, her agreeing to it, or even suggesting it meant there won't be second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:51 PM
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I focused on a small subset of women and it got me 0 options/dates for about 4 years. Very efficient
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:49 PM
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This line of thinking could only come from a woman, because you assume the "type of women you (guy) want" will automatically like this guy back. it's the same as with every dating advice from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:47 PM
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No, it's not "the same as a guy going on grindr". It would be the same as guy having 20 random ugly women wanting to have a casual sex with him. He not attracted to them sexually, but they are still of a gender he is attracted to in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:33 PM
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*sigh* yet another post about same topic. Are we taking turns who is gonna post it next? - some women understand - some women don't understand - no woman is giving a fuck, because why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:28 PM
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> Decentering doesn't require to stop engaging, it's about putting yourself first and make yourself your priority. It's about putting something else in the center of your life, that is not another person, and when they will think, how to attract them or please them. It's a way of life when if there are other people in it, they have to like you for who you are. As long as men are expected to approach and court by a society, decentering women by men will just lead to this men remaining single
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:25 PM
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"Why" what? What are you asking? I simply pointed out that your comment is not some profound observation, because this is like a key point of any men's (who complain here about that) complain. As to why men won't go for women wanting casual sex? Probably because they are not desirable enough for these women? Ain't like it's a secret women have very high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:15 PM
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It's already being recognized by logically thinking people tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:02 PM
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> The problem seems to be they can’t have sex with the women they want. Truly a shocking discovery! Ain't like men who complain about this were always...complaining about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:59 PM
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Are you straight? If yes, are you attracted to any man (even if it's 1 or 2 men)? If yes, this post and its "argument" is entirely invalid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:57 PM
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Are straight women attracted to, in general, to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:54 PM
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Sure, but i also disagree with very prevailing sentiment here, that relationship doesn't fix loneliness. It does
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:35 AM
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> exercising and wanting to be the best version of yourself This is great. However, there is a rising problem of younger and younger men taking steroids, SARMS and other shit, often from some shady, darkweb site. Sure they will bench elite numbers and be 7% of body fat all year round. But their hearts will collapse around 30 yo. Truly "best version of yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:06 AM
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Some people need to wake up and realize one can be surrounded by friends and family and still feel lonely, because they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:54 AM
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No one will give you actually useable advice, unless they themselves were exactly like you and now they are successful. You *should* listen to all advice and then use your thinking to pick ones that are somewhat good. That's it. I will agree, though, that women's advices on dating are...not best. But that's understandable - most of them never had to actually court men, always being the passive side, so they don't really know how to do it. And, as half of this sub loves to repeat, women are not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:52 AM
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Yes? Who's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:46 AM
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Huh, interesting. I've never heard of this phrase from that pov. I'm only familiar with female version of it - no ring no commitment. Though i agree it's stupid "advice" exactly because of what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:44 AM
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Your post does not make any sense. Are you saying "normie" men are the most selective, because they don't want to commit to single moms or of models? If so - it's just insane take.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:11 AM
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> women want to date snd want relationships with men They certainly don't show it though. Quite the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:09 AM
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I guess? It's always great being desired for who you are, instead of what you can provide, in any setting, not just dating. But all that actually matters is if said man is actually happy in a relationship. If it fulfills him, he'll be happy and he'll feel desired,even if he didn't get to have casual sex with her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:54 PM
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I have to try latin dances, because I'm big into swing dancing for the last 4-5 years, and this just doesn't work anymore. Girls from my generation just collectively decided they won't date inside their circles, to "avoid drama". Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:03 PM
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Maybe it works like that where you live. If so, good for you. Where I live it's not "I had free Friday or Saturday night", you get the timetable for the whole week and you work. I know, because I tried to make extra money, but I couldn't just go to these specific times
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:47 PM
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Wonderful advice, let me abandon my IT job, so I can bartend! /S
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:35 PM
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I am letting my lived experience to very rational conclusion of women fetishizing gays, and queer people trying to "reclaim" some dynamics 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:40 AM
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Why weird? I never got any heat from any straight dude, for having close male friends. Never caught any for hugging my friends or saying "I love this guy". You know who gave me shit? I think you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:32 AM
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Dancing is the worst of "try new hobbies" in context of potential relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:03 AM
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I wonder if he just went by this stereotype, that nurses cheat a lot. I don't know if it's true, but I'd imagine being in such a setting as hospital, wouldn't make a lot of people horny
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:59 AM
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This "easiest" way is still unbelievably hard (because dating is hard, who knew!), and writing the whole post on "wow, it's so easy, men don't even realize!" Just sounds like you once got lucky with some drunk girl at the party and now act like you know everything. Also - are we - men - all supposed to become bartenders and bouncers now? Or any social setting with a lot of women will do? And what if these women don't want to date? What if they don't want to date within their social circles? Edit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:45 AM
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That would be great if women were actually willing to teach. But "he should find it out himself", "I won't teach a grown ass man how to pleasure a woman" and "he should be able to read body language" are way too common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:36 AM
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That's why I wrote: "women and queer people, who try to paint any deeper male friendship as closeted gays." I meant this specific group of women and queer people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:33 AM
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Have you seen other posts and comments here? If I'd go with "read tone through text" every time, I'd assume 99% of posts here are just jokes/irony. Besides, the /s is already widely popularized on Reddit, to mark sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 PM
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We are on Reddit We are on PPD Good sir, people here have the wildest takes, said in a complete seriousness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:39 PM
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Did...did you forget "/s" at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:53 PM
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I think it would be ideal general way for most men. You were seen as attractive enough for a fling, but it turns out your are also good enough for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:35 AM
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On Reddit? That's like a go to for women. From some specific woman? I don't know, we are not dealing with soecifics here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:51 PM
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Because then, they'll hear my favorite - "you can be loved by your male friends!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:42 PM
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they mean more than the mechanical stuff, they want to be wanted, needed, loved, cared. Men have feelings and want to be loved. What a shocker! I hate that term, it's like one is not allowed to have a deep platonic relationship without people seeing that as romance. Say thank you to women and queer people, who try to paint any deeper male friendship as closeted gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:28 PM
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and having sex with these women too. Ah, but you didn't include that in your comment 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:24 PM
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Well, that would be another story then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:17 PM
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these guys claimed they had one sided open relationships and then it turned out one of them wasn't actually seeing anyone else and the other had a bisexual wife, so it wasn't one sided at all. Second part of your comment is your claim as to why their relationship wasn't one sided. The first one wasn't seeing anybody else (valid), the second one has a bisexual wife (what his wife's sexuality has to do with the relationship being open or not?)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:17 PM
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Are you saying bisexual women are poly by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:08 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:38 AM
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I have never been hardcore red pill guy, but i think i share some OG red pill views. But whenever i see these guys like Myron, Tate or Sneako, i just cringe really hard. I don't agree with any points you presented
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:20 AM
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Mostly appearance (face definitely) and lately lack of opportunities. Even tho i constantly around a large number of women, in a social setting, we all know each other so long and good, that romance is out of picture. Altough, if i'd be more attractive, it wouldn't matter as much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:06 AM
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I think you may be as open-minded for relationship as you think, but once you drown in hate-pushing algorithm, you don't even notice when you subconsciously starts hating men. Just like alt-right/toxic manosphere pipeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:02 AM
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Just started, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:22 PM
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No, it's not. My "authentic self" is X. X is not attractive, therefore I have to change (if I want to be attractive). It's really not that hard to understand, I don't know why y'all trying to spin this so much
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:47 PM
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This comment was for a satirical purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:34 AM
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The only people i saw, using this term, are women making man-hating content, and maybe some psychologists/sociologists, trying to ride the social-media trends wave. > To add to this, cis women are hesitant to befriend cis straight men because cis straight men are more likely to see friendly approaches from women as flirting. Egg and chicken thing, because if more women would genuinely treat more men in friendly manner, and not only when they a) want something from them b) actually are trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:08 AM
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Seems like men are more accepting and progressive than women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:58 AM
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Your definition of self-conscious is just a part of it. Being self-conscious also mean being...welll...conscious of one's flaws, differences, constantly evaluating oneself etc. And while there can be a healthy dose of self-consciousness, most people (me included) are more than that. > You think you doomed to that for life and couldn't possibly work on it? Working on it is literally changing yourself. So my self-conscious ass cannot be "yourself", because it's not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:43 AM
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I'm still shaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:35 PM
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I am shaken to my core
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:34 PM
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As if women don't do same things, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:33 PM
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You just wrote everything i think of, but didn't know how to dress it in words, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:31 PM
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Probably after first two dates, i'd say? But it also depends on how we interact. If she would be excited for the next date, and better yet, she would propose it herself, then i think i can confidently say she does, in fact like me. If we would meet in more "organic" ways, then i guess it could be observed in a way she acts. But for this discussion purpose, let's say 2nd-3rd date
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:41 PM
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Deciding what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:31 PM
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Right. So say that, lol. But also - what core beliefs? Wea re not talking about changing ones core beliefs, we are talking about their approach to socializing. In my core, i am introverted, shy and rather self-concious. If i'd remain "myself to my core", i'd just spend all days in my room, not talking to anybody. i know i have to stop being shy, introverted and self-concious. Is this something i "figured out myself"? Yes, sure. You know what i didn't figured out myself? That i was too friendly w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:30 PM
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If i misunderstood you, apologies I gave a month as the example of more relationship oriented desire. If we are talking about the basic attraction, then it should really be apparent after first look, maybe second. This doesn't mean i think women should glance at me, come up and say "hey fuck me". I'm not really sure how to properly describe it. You see me. You think i'm attractive, or not. That's it for basic attraction. The sexual desire should also come to play in early stages, unless you (the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:26 PM
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You are right. You didn't say that. Because people like you don't offer any sound advice, other than "well what about grifters!!1!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:19 PM
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What to elaborate on? Any man, who pushes back against man-hating is called names When male suicide was brought up, you went straight to "but women..." You are painting all talk about loneliness on men's side as toxic tik tok talk And, of course, you bring all of it down to "uh uh men want pussy". What's interesting is seeing women talking exactly like those grifters, but not realizing this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:18 PM
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Early on. I don't have any specific time window in mind, but i also don't believe in "slowly growing on". If we have met, and flirt and a month goes by and you still don't have any desire for me, then you just don't find me attractive. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:11 PM
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Okay. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:03 PM
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The general consensus, for me, is: she either likes you/finds you attractive, or not. I don't expect women, in general, to have exactly same presentation of desire, as men do, because i understand men and women are not the same. I understand most women "require" some courting and correct presentation, to think of most men as "attractive" I don't think, however, it discredits men's desire to be/feel wanted. And, also, i don't think this: > "we see how she acts with top 1% of men", but isn't that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:02 PM
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So they cannot ask anybody for any (real) advice? How a person, who genuinely doesn't know what makes them un-dateable, is supposed to to change it? Or are you just the type of woman who thinks all non-naturally desirable men should just hide in cave?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:46 AM
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Because the ones, that are asking for advice are not "better version of yourself" yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:34 AM
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That changing "yourself" is not always faking. Getting better body, better style, learning how to socialize better, how to read people better. One can learn this, apply this and see better results. It's not 100% foolproof plan, but still better than hearing "oh just be yourself", "oh, just take a shower" for the 10th time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:31 AM
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> because "yourself" is not attractive and if they behave authentically, few to no women would be into that. And that makes it shitty advice. A person who is already attractive and can attract others without much work does not need any advice. Not a rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:08 AM
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This sub is funny with their hang up on grifters. Anything the "blue pill" here does not like is getting automatically assigned to these grifters. > Ask another man who actually knows what he's doing in your real life I wonder what you expect these "men who actually knows" would say? Really. "Oh just be kind"? "Oh just treat them with respect"? I don't subscribe to any alpha-bros-sigma-chad-whatver the fuck you want to call them, but reading this sub, i'm seeing pretty much same advice i would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:51 AM
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Probably because "oh just be yourself bro" is shitty advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:42 AM
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And again. You are like all those alpha-bros in Louis Theroux documentary, telling on yourself when you could just be quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:37 AM
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You literally did what u/Kreeps_United described. Like, word for word
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:50 AM
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How hitting on someone is not socializing. Is dating some mythical, separate part of people's life? And if it is, why people tend to give the "you need to socialize more" advice to men asking about dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:27 PM
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You may not consider it, but it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:00 PM
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Being more social helps men get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:36 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:17 PM
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Any social skills, learnt by a man, will only benefit one side - him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:20 AM
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Except a general idea of things that every sane person finds creepy and off-putting, i don't know the best what women do find yadda yadda If you just consult the graph, you'll see how i wrote "At least, with my own profile I got a few matches". Comparing that to NO MATCHES AT ALL after all the tinkering and fixing done by my female friends, i can confidently say women don't know how to create good male's profiles, unless they are working with already above average man, who just doesn't know how …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:15 AM
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Lol, women don't know how to make good male profiles for shit. I've had pretty much every willing female friend edit and "fix" my profile and got no likes whatsoever. At least, with my own profile I got a few matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:03 AM
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No they (we) are not. Stop listening to ig/tik tok influencers pink pill divine femininity whatever other bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:39 PM
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Seeing what? Normal looking guys, asking about their day? Asking out for a coffee, walk or something to eat? For god's sake, women act as if every single guy on tinder is constantly sending dick pics and talks about sex, when in reality it's just a couple of dudes, and the rest is catching strays
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:59 PM
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Everybody wants to be seen as attractive to as many people as possible, it's normal human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:56 PM
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Innocence can mean a lot of things. I don't expect/demand a virgin, but I also would want to be with a girl who likes to show her genitals to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:54 PM
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Jesus christ on a motorbike, do you know what a hyperbole is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:38 PM
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I mean it as most women would be okay (or appear to be okay) with just the one-position-lights-off sex every thursday.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:27 PM
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Does it mean you would just hook up asap with someone you don't like like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:28 AM
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Men value women not going through the whole ball team in one week
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:24 AM
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Of course I did both. But I don't see my orgasm as the only goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:10 AM
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We all know what this question is really supposed to mean, so i'll answer (as a guy) to the "hidden" one: the only advice, that is really valuable is from someone who was in exactly same spot as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:56 AM
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I've seen profiles of my female friends (not only those who are conventionally pretty). Dating is definitely million percent easier for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:52 AM
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Most men just want enthusiasm, an active desire. They want to feel wanted. That's it And even IF you want to go the "different woman" way, there is a makeup and different clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:44 AM
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> Most women don’t really push for sex acts that are painful for men Most women don't really push for sex acts...period
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:42 AM
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I like how a woman can only be two things: - a virgin - a promiscuous, always-open, nightclub's toilet giving head trollop You do know you can learn a thing or two, while being in committed relationship? And also you can still be very bad at sex, despite hooking up every friday night?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:40 AM
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> I'm willing to bet nobody scratched the tip of your cock and opening.... Ask any guy who received a very teeth-y blowjob
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:37 AM
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For me, the goal of sex is to have a pleasure and feel the intimate connection with a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:35 AM
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Why? They don't need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:29 PM
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and expect you to know how to deal with it. I'm no psychologist, but I think "oh, I'm sorry you are going through this gives a hug" is enough. But for "some" reason enough women straight up goes to "ah yes, you just stopped being a man in my eyes".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:24 PM
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A woman goes to Italy once, and suddenly she "travels".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:57 AM
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"going out" isn't exactly a hobby. Let alone an interesting hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:54 AM
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Substance addiction and fucking random guys in a club's toilet are two entirely different things, mate. And I have an alcoholic father, so I know how it looks. I'm also not writing these girls off completely. I have no problems being friends with them, and that is as far as I want the connection to go
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:49 PM
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Sometimes i wish i could experience the stereotypical US college life. When i went to college/university, it was...boring. Sure there were some general parties made under college's umbrella, but it was typical nightclub party, just called something else. And most of my "classmates" weren't attending those, so given that people were quickly to form groups withing their class groups, going to such a party meant you would be standing alone, with your free, complimentary drink
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:48 AM
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Aight, my turn So you girls want men to approach, but only when the woman wants it, and since a man doesn't know if he doesn't ask, he have to be a mind reader; want men to be responsible for everything during courting and then during official relationship, take on all the vetting, initiate sex exactly when a woman is ready (because too soon and he is a creep, too late and he is meek and weak), pay 100% every time for everything, take on all emotional labor and regulation of a woman's emotions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:21 AM
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Why? Aren't you a human with a free will? Are you forced to have a sex early on with every man that demands it? (if yes, please report that to police and change environment, if it happens frequently).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:04 AM
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Man, i've had few users blocked for some time and wondered why my PPD feed looks just a little bit less unhinged. But we (you) are back! > One, guys who love situationships. When they don’t want the inconvenience of a relationship, they have commitment issues, they’re not ready, it’s just vibing, they don’t like labels. But when the other person decides to date/fuck other people or even closes off intimacy/investment (outside of fucking), suddenly they feel betrayed, they thought the bond meant …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:59 AM
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So just don't have sex early. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:11 AM
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She glanced at you for 2,5 seconds. How more direct you want it?! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:06 AM
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> If men are scared of women cheating now imagine if we did have spontaneous desire by that logic, this makes women (again, according to your logic) waaaay worse, because she didn't cheat because she felt instant attraction, but rather allowed herself to fall for the other guy over time, without stopping at any point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:26 AM
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> It’s insane how gay men are so much more observant and knowledgeable about straight women’s sexuality despite having zero motivation or experience with it, in most cases. It's insane how if straight guy would say this, he would be labeled a loser, who "never could attract a woman in his life"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:22 AM
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Right, so not "friends first"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:19 PM
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It's simple, because it's not some 15-step program to better yourself. It's just saying yes. But yeah, it would end up exactly like you said - thus not viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:06 PM
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That's why i said it's not viable (while still being simple), because you can't negotiate attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:46 PM
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Go for less attractive guys, who show their interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:37 PM
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Women keep saying this, but the amount of times when my female friends would tell me about their first date, with someone off the app, in guy's house, out of town, or (my personal favorite) late evening in forest is downright scary. But he was so fiiiiiiine thoooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:22 PM
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> Getting 100 likes a week, many from people who have nothing in common with you or are well outside your age range Literally just set up an age bracket filter and only like profiles you feel like they are compatible. It's super easy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:18 PM
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Solution is simple, but not easy (and practically not viable really)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:16 PM
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Who is counting? Are truly believe every guy deciding to "pretend" has this specific period set, that he has to wait? how long do you think it is? A month? A year? 3 years, 6 month and 29 days? Or are they rather waiting for good time (in their opinion)? As i said - the only difference here is you, using prettier words.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:12 PM
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What does approaching every woman has to do with starting as friends, to end up as lovers? The scheme is the same you meet someone -> you start developing the friendship (real or "pretended") -> you try to initiate something romantic/sexual All you did was to describe it in a bit prettier words
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:06 PM
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> “I had to masturbate before I got here because you’re so hot” I'd be riding this high wave for months XD Seriously tho, i think it would be a bit much, not a dealbreaker, but definitely out of ordinary. But i agree on the "finding sexual attention repulsive". We are on the DATE. I AM sexually attracted to you, it's obvious, it's given. I'm not saying women should tolerate every sexual, borderline predatory, actions, but just expressing your attraction towards them is so often regarded as red f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:02 PM
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Okay, please describe the differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:53 AM
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There wouldn't be any overreliance on dating apps, if women weren't screaming, for past decade, for men to leave them alone. There wouldn't by any, if women didn't decide that approaching someone in a bar or a club is inappropriate, because "they are there to just have fun". There wouldn't be any, if hobby groups and communities, wouldn't turn from "places where you meet similar people and date each other" to "places where i go just to do this one thing and i don't want any male interest there".…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:07 AM
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> In other words, say you meet someone who’s a friend of a friend. Ya’ll have a good time, hang out again, have a good time, hang out again and so on and so on as feelings develop organically. This is just a process of befriending, unless you aske the out max at second hang out > If someone gives you advice like “be friends with someone you’re intending to date” - don’t listen to their advice, thankfully the only people who seem to be giving that advice are dudes who completely misunderstand wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:01 AM
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So not "friend's first", just "don't aks for sex as a first words"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:00 AM
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> Being friends first gives you a chance to actually get to know her and grow closer and find out if she's even compatible with you > find a woman you're romantically interested in, be her friend for a specified probationary period, and then ask her out. There is no difference in these approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:53 AM
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> might have a friend who is single and looking and could vouch for you. I feel like this is dying "art". As many female friends, gals, acquaintances, whatever i have none of them ever thought about it. And i;m not only talking about myself. I have one pack of friends, where we often do house parties etc. It's mixed, rather equally and no girl ever, EVER, tried to set up one of us with any of their single friends. "Well maybe you all are just bad men" - sure, they like to spend time with us, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:50 AM
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> Being friends first gives you a chance to actually get to know her and grow closer and find out if she's even compatible with you. This is literally: "find a woman you're romantically interested in, be her friend for a specified probationary period, and then ask her out."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:46 AM
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> That being said: The only men I’ve met who insisted on being friends first either weren’t that interested, or they were interested but felt they weren’t in a place to be in a relationship. Usually low self esteem or money issues were factors as well. I'd say it's not low self esteem, but rather being aware of self averageness. Many guys are painfully aware they are not the type of guy, who would awake instant attraction in woman, therefore they default to slow-burn, to win her with his persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:45 AM
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> There’s a difference between pretending to be a woman’s friend for months and spending some time getting to know her and deciding whether you even like her as a person (and allowing her to get to know you) before pursuing her sexually. What's the difference? In both situations, your target is to romantically and sexually pursue the girl. Maybe the only difference would be if you stay friends, after rejections, but i am of the opinion that one does not have to stay, if they don;t feel like they…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:36 AM
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Yes, it is different than attracting women. That's why i'm saying it's easier to attract men, then women. Thank you for agreeing with me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:00 AM
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> Congratulations. Many women would absolutely kill to know your secret. This is the secret: show interest and initiative. That's it. That's the secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:57 AM
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Delusion-zone /s On serious note, while not wanting hook-ups is understandable (and, for me, desireable), there is no such thing as "not looking"/"not ready" for a relationship. If you are right man, she will be ready, no matter her situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:51 AM
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Right, so also just anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:48 AM
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Funny how this saying is fine here, but not when the gender is reversed, anyway Attracting men is way, WAY easier then attracting women. It's so easy, i managed to attract few gay men and confuse few straight guys by accident, just because i was nice to them and "showed initiative" (so just talking to them first, be it on SM or real life, inviting them out for beer etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:47 AM
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Are we talking like "she was a woman her whole life and suddenly was change into man"? If yes, then police would get 100% more sexual harrassment reports, going by how many women say they would approach dating other women. Or, at best, just an influx of "incels" I'm being overdramatic here, but seriously, if a woman is not from the "don't approach, don't engage women at all" camp, she usually is from "treat her like a princess" camp. The times, were i had to explain to some of my female friends,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:43 AM
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Do you have some source for this? Because quick google search shows no clear studies or reports. And by going with anecdotal evidence, i can say i saw and heard way more bi women saying dating men is easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:37 AM
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...and other lies women were told" by Some Bored Self described Female Influencer. Any self respecting man would rather have a woman who shows interest and takes the same amount of initiative, over passive princess, who is just looking for second daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:26 AM
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> I had a guy once tell me he refused to talk ablut getting exclusive with a woman he wanted to date, cuz its her job. She thought he only wanted sex. So after a month a half she ended things with him. Cuz he refused to like seal the deal. And he was like "what a bitch" and i was like.... 🤷‍♀️ Aight...where are you finding these guys? As far as i know, none of my friends have ever such disposition. Like, the closest to that was maybe one dude, who decided he did not see a future with this girl, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:13 AM
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Copy-paste of my other comment here: One told me, when she was drunk. Just started blabbering everything. The other one had great "friend" who said it as a "funny story" during house party. Disclaimer: It wasn't blowing rapper and athletes, rather "just" having sex in club's toilet, having sex with her guy friend (during the period when we were starting to date) etc. Club sex and banging her "just a friend" during our dating period were obviously a dealbreaker for me. But that was one girl. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:07 AM
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With most men, it's not about "being with virgin", but rather about being with woman, who is not having sex with random people, in club's toilet or private bus of some celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:03 AM
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One told me, when she was drunk. Just started blabbering everything. The other one had great "friend" who said it as a "funny story" during house party. Disclaimer: It wasn't blowing rapper and athletes, rather "just" having sex in club's toilet, having sex with her guy friend (during the period when we were starting to date) etc. Club sex and banging her "just a friend" during our dating period were obviously a dealbreaker for me. But that was one girl. The funny thing is second girl was "just"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:02 AM
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No, unless "the chance to be" means to be in a relationship, not quick hook-up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:37 AM
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As much as women understand ours. Sometimes I think I understand it more, but it's most probably just my bias. When my female friends complain about their dating struggles to me, I of course try to be sympathetic, hear them out and if they ask for it, try to give some advice (if I have any). I can't really feel empathy tho (nor do I ask any women for it), because 90% of the time (why yes, I pulled that number out of my ass) their main "struggle" is "I don't find any man attractive", for various …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:09 AM
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It is true. Dating in-community is considered too risky, so they don't want to...well, risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:45 AM
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If you are not sure, if she is attracted to you, she is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:27 AM
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Yeah, that's why we have pretty much the same posts from female presenting accounts here daily
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:19 AM
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> (It's slop!) Agreed. I don't read them myself, but i like watching The Book Leo doing reviews on them. It's hilarious > Literary erotica has a higher quality of prose. The plot is less formulaic. The writer reads books beyond commercial romance and it shows through the writing. Could you recommend some? I doubt there would be any with average joe shmo male character, but if there are, i'd be highly interested
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:35 AM
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Women engaging with them afterwards means they were
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:22 AM
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Yes, but when they are attractive enough, many women will let them be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:20 AM
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Social interactions. Next time i'll be sure to bring recorder, so i can record it for you. Also entire hook up culture, and one night stands are the proof
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:18 AM
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Yes it does. Maybe not for all women, but enough to see how hilarious it is. It's normal though, we make exceptions for people we find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:07 AM
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Yes, any plan is calculated, but that doesn't mean it has some malicious intent behind it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:47 AM
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You could very well have a falling out with your friend inside community. Same thing, same fall out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:45 AM
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Feminism gave you an ability to voice your opinions, therefore it's all caused by feminism /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:43 AM
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If you are making the title to be (and that's my opinion): "men claim that women like looks over all but they themselves like looks over everything" vs previous post's "women prefer looks over everything else" then i can see how the first title invites the "but women" to conversation. I agree though, that derailing the conversation, by any gender, is just irritating, like some men will only talk about male victims, when there is a discussion about female victims, or how some women will try to si…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:42 AM
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Eh, i could see this side of it, if i really tried. I guess it depends how they act on regular basis
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:36 AM
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Because people saying this shit are just fucking brain rotten stupid. There are women who prefer when men shave down there too - are they also pedos?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:33 AM
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> Or for example I notice that men talk a lot about some behavior of women when they themselves do it too and try to point it out, that men are also like that, I get "but women do it too", Isn't that literally the thing you are doing? "But men too"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:30 AM
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> Asking if you are single or how long have you been married I think it sometimes could be justified, when someone removed from dating world for the last 30-40 years, tries to give advice as something set in stone to younger generation. It's the "go in, shake CEO's hand i give him your resume"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:25 AM
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With women and sexuality, my problem is saying men should be more affectionate towards their male friends (because male loneliness epidemic or whatever), while also any sign of affection man would show other man is being called gay by women. And it even can be non-malicious, like defaulting to "every to guys in history, who clearly were close, must be gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:23 AM
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This is done by both women and men, towards men expressing their struggles with dating "I've never had problems and i'm [insert the most popular "negative" traits a man can have]" - when said by men, and "My male friends/brothers never had problems and they're [insert the most popular "negative" traits a man can have]" I guess it can be assigned to "The Never Have I Ever Personal denial", but it always comes with the just world fallacy attached: if you struggle, then you must be bad person. Defa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:20 AM
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I didn't like it. I don't like Louis or any of the manosphere dudes presented there. I don't like them, because they are bunch of dangerous or cringe grifters, putting a front, harming young men. And i don't like Louis, because this "documentary" was worse than any random youtube video about same topic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:53 AM
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Peter Dinklage is sex symbol the same way Matty Matheson is called attractive. People will virtue signal, but won't go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:41 AM
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> a regular woman or weak woman and the mafia man falls in love and she joins the mafia and they rule the mafia together. You mean one of the highest selling (dark)romance book, where a woman get kidnapped, inprisioned and manipulated into a relationship with mafia boss?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:24 PM
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How you differentiate "dark romance" and "dark literary erotica"? Is it just having sexual content shown (written?) instead of suggested?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:22 PM
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I don't (can't) want to have sex on first date. To have sex with someone, i must feel at least some sort of emotional connection and comfort with them. What i want however, is sexual tension. A desire. Show me you WANT me. Not in this carnal, male-coded way, but in the initiating dates, showing genuine interest in me and my looks way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:59 PM
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> rigid expectation that no one ever change or grow or make mistakes feels like it would sabotage any kind of relationship I understand what you are saying, but there is a simple way of approaching this. One of my standards is not wanting to date women, who partake in hook-up culture (myself not taking part in it too). Now, if this one girl was curious, tried it once and decided it's not for her - that's good in my books (because that's also how i did this). If she spent her early 20's touring a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:56 PM
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What are we talking about here? I went full no contact with only one girl ever, and it was more to protect my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:17 PM
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Even if he had kids, should he treat other people like he would his kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:48 AM
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> "why men don't respect women's boundaries and are scary" As if we didn't have such posts here every second day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:42 AM
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Exactly this. There was a "cuba" themed club/bar in my town, and sometimes i would just go alone, because they were playing classics like Buena Vista Social Club, and would just dance by myself this pseudo-salsa. Unfortunately they "modernized" it and now it's another shitty nightclub...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:35 AM
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Honestly, i always assumed the drug scare is overblown, until i realized how many people ACTUALLY are taking drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:32 AM
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Anytime someone tries to sell me nightclubs, i dislike them even more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:31 AM
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Ah yes, yet another change of the term "friendzone" just to fit your outdated or unreal narrative. Bunch of friends, having sex with each other is not friendzone. Friendzone is sticking with a person who rejected you, hoping they will eventually warm up to you romantically, just because you acted friendly. That's it > And then reason was that all my friends and everyone I knew pretty much never went out on “dates” at all. We would hang out and drink and tell each other funny stories and dance an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:26 AM
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I don't think he meant "how many men they slept with", but rather "how many possibilities these women had". Because in past you've had your friends and maybe people from your neighborhood. Now you have people from the whole world, just by swiping
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:16 AM
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Man-child is yet another stupid term, created to insult men who don't do everything exactly as you want. It's same as dudes calling a woman "ugly anyway", because she didn't give them a chance. I've seen this being used to describe men who demand constant care from their girlfriends/wives and i've seen this being used to describe fully grown, responsible adult man, who just happen to collect warhammer figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:04 AM
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> Kissing someone if the vibe is right You don't ever know if the vibe is right. you may only think it is (and that's entirely your opinion). And by that, going for a kiss is, in fact, pushing a boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:53 AM
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I do consider any move to be pushing boundaries. Obviously pushing those, that were voiced and stated is immensely worse. As men are expected to initiate every single step of a relationship, we are also expected to push some boundaries, and sometimes even cross them (which, of course, depends on the broader context). There are societal boundaries, that are either voiced as generalized statements, or were voiced long time ago and we still are supposed to hold to them (for example touching - it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:47 AM
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I believe there are some things that should be taken as established boundary even without specific woman voicing it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:37 AM
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In my opinion, these statements, just as anything gender war related, is just low quality rage bait. There are no concrete metrics on what is good - men or woman, unless we go to absolute minimum of "be kind, don't abuse".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:13 AM
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So the more truly platonic friendships that men can make with women will open them up to more women to meet. But they have to be genuine. If they only are friends for ulterior motives, those friends will see through it and not introduce them to anyone This reads a bit contradictory, though I know it's not "the dating advice", but it still sounds like "to get a girlfriend, make many platonic friendships with women". Anyway I'm friendly with pretty much anybody in our community, and as of now, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:59 PM
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> I've noticed the newer gen is a lot less graceful about introductions I think, just a little, that is may be "a gen-z thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:23 PM
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I don't know, never seen anything like that either in our group, or other cities schools. I know there were some breakups (and even one divorce, i think), which led only to just two people not dancing with each other and that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:20 PM
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That's why i added the thing about it being generational. Most of ours teachers, for example, are married couples. And they met dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:17 PM
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> Being a good dancer should do you well regardless Honestly, i thought so too, but so far it "only" helps me with...well, dancing. > if you are being yourself, it just may not gel with these folks That's why i said "if i didn't know any better, i could very easily assume I AM getting hit on". Ever since i started dancing, i also started getting TONS of compliments. In one month i got more then for my whole life to that moment. And it's about anything - my dancing, my clothes, my music taste, my…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:14 PM
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But you still, inadvertently, become a part of group, just by affiliation. Doesn't have to be a hobby, it can just be a group of people hanging out together. I have similar thing happening in my other circle of friends. No one wants to date inside and no one wants to introduce their other friends as "potential ones", because "what about potential drama"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:06 PM
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> I don’t know, this seems like a pretty close-knit community compared to what other people might consider to be a community, and when you’re talking about people who you see nearly every day, there are valid reasons not to date them. Maybe i worded it this way, but it's not THAT close-knit. Despite me doing something related almost everyday, i see same people max twice a week, during classes, social dances or some workshops. Some people go pretty regularly, some not so much. And the groups is V…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:02 PM
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But you are always a part of some group. When you get with someone, their group becomes your group too (unless you never introduce your friends to your partner?)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:52 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:50 PM
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> Being ugly or not isn't the end all for attraction too. Wasn't implying that. I guess, i went with it, because if i didn't know any better, i could very easily assume I AM getting hit on by quite a few women, just because i'm apparently very good dancer and often can't even catch a breath. So the only other reason (if we exclude the post's topic) would be my looks :V
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:49 PM
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> The other argument men bring up to be petty is feminism. But it's never mentioned in any feminist literature that a man being kind and generous and paying for a meal is taking away women rights? > I think this plays into the idea that chivalry is dead. Chivalry is dead and feminism killed it. And it's a dig into feminism, but stating obvious (at least to me) fact. Core of last age of chivalry was that men are supposed to protect and take care of women, because they were weaker. Feminism demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:46 PM
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As i mentioned - i'm not only talking about me. Because sure, i could just sum it up to "well, i'm ugly, that's it". But this is something many women were expressing in just common conversations, whenever such topic would appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:35 PM
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Right, but then you would just become a part of their other community. And then it would be the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:32 PM
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My problem is dancing IS my life, at least now. Sure i do have other hobbies, but they are either solo, or very male dominated. So what frustrates me is i'd have to either abandon or severely limit my participation in it, just to have a possibility of meeting someone outside of the community
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:29 PM
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I get it, but this inadvertently creates a situation, where you HAVE to abandon, or severely limit your hobby, just so you can meet somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:25 PM
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Well... I'm getting swarmed by women, because apparently I'm a very good leader 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:54 PM
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If a mainly female hobby then I could see that possibly women join these hobbies to just enjoy themselves and maybe bond with other women It's a swing dancing community and (good) leaders (usually men) are at a premium, really. So I don't think it's about women wanting to bond with other women, because it's, at its core, partnered dance. She is secretly hoping to meet her husband there. But she isn’t the type of woman to message first or initiate so one of these men would have to show romantic i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:47 PM
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I understand that. But I also think dating in general comes with such risks. You might very well already be in a relationship, enter some community and then breakup - same thing imo. On the other hand, I've heard quite a few stories from older folks, how they met dancing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:40 PM
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Dancing community, swing dancing specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:37 PM
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I'm built for comfort, not for speed, baby Seriously tho, I'm not lean/muscular/athletic, but I'm also not obese. I could lose some weight, in my opinion, but I also heard I'm "nice to dance with", because I actually am not long and lanky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:36 PM
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I'm opening for a very easy jab here, but i think i am very likeable and easy to get along in the group, because people don't try to avoid me or act tense near me - quite the opposite, especially after some time, when i made a name for myself. But i'm not even talking only about myself, because i see this in general, among my friends. No one is setting up no one with their other friends, no matter the geneders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:24 PM
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> Personally, I do recommend dating inside ur community as all my relationships have been warm approaches and it worked well for me. In my case it would be very hard to date outside this community, because i practically spend everyday doing something related to it - be it attending classes/workshops, organizing social dances, practise outside of schedule. I guess that's why it is a bit frustrating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:20 PM
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> and those friends let you know about say, other friends, that they think you might get along with, that also happen to be single… I very much feel like this is a dying thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:16 PM
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What a shocking revelation! Any other mind blowing, thought provoking takes? Of course they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:15 PM
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> More opportunities don’t equal guaranteed success I know it doesn't guarantee a success, but i find it silly to fully remove even a possibility of it. > Joining a club also allows you to remove the mystique around women and not put them on pedestals I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:14 PM
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I kind of get this reasoning, but i've heard women applying it to intercity communities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:11 PM
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Oh no, i agree it would be annoying. But i'm not talking about this. I'm talking about women defaulting to "i'm not dating inside community at all", which is counter-intuitive for me. We (not me specifically) already know we have one big thing in common, why not try to build upon it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:10 PM
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Where exactly he said "He’s more concerned about this hypothetical woman who doesn’t communicate well than the potential of sexually assaulting her."? Please cite. All i see is a dude telling a story about a woman not knowing how to communicate and wanting him to push her boundries. that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:37 PM
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> The only solution to male loneliness is for other men to recognize it, to reach out to lonely men around them, and support each other through hard times. Friendship won't ever replace romantic relationship. Ever. It is a different type of fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:23 PM
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The amount of times i saw/heard a woman instantly switch, hearing her boy friend took his ex-gf to some expensive holidays, tells me that yes - women do get jealous of such things. The bottom line is to just date people that make you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:11 PM
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Women literally call these books "a guide" that "men just disregard"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:44 AM
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> A lot of these men But you aren't responding to "a lot of these men". you are responding to a dude, who told a story about A woman expecting/wanting A man to push her boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:29 AM
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> I mean you gotta keep that body count down, right? Act all snarky and wonder why people don;t want to engage in a civil conversation with you > if you think she should jump in with you right away. It's not only about sex, tho? It's about little things as being available vs "not having much free time this week/month", it's about them actually coming up with propositions of dates and not only waiting for him, it's about being willing to go for "low effort" dates like coffee, ice cream or a walk …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:25 AM
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Though i agree with the core, there is a one, very simple solution to this - don;t date such people. My las two girlfriends were like this. Being with them was draining and stressful (and the fact that people around kept telling me it's how should be, it's normal, was not helping at all). But i've had enough of it and now would never enter such a relationship. Of course it SEVERLY limits my already very little romantic prospects, at least i have one less thing to stress about. Ideally relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:08 AM
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> Dates don’t have to be expensive Please tell that to your fellow women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:02 AM
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> I'm going to say this one isn't true at all It was true in my previous relationship though. So it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:00 AM
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That's true, 100%. And i know a simple solution would be to just get off reddit, but hey.... > I know you aren't close but I imagine it helps that she knows what kind of person you are That's also true and it's the reason i don't really expect ay advice from the internet, but i can also imagine not everybody have the possibility of talking to female friends, for whatever reasons, so they turn to internet. And it's not even "already on the get go kind of antagonizing environment", but very often …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:25 PM
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Why would they have, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:05 PM
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It's really a night and day difference, what response i get, for example, from my gal pal (so not some close friend) and women here, when talking about same things, using same words. It's even funnier, because (as she said herself) she used to be, for short period, a "man-hating feminist", but she realized she literally has great male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:02 PM
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> When you talk to these women what is your ideal response? > “That sucks, I’m sorry” I mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:54 PM
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There is no way of doing that. Not at all. At best it could be a bit clearer from the get go, so men (or boys) just entering dating world could learn quicker, but dating will be un-fair forever. Maybe AI girlfriends could do the work, partially, but i don't think most men would prefer AI gf over real life human. This however doesn't mean we should make dating as miserable for man as possible (and in other way, obviously, too)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:49 PM
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This is what i mean, when i say mainstream is mainly red pilled in actions, they just try to appear not to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:59 PM
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Yes. Because women, in general, approach the "advice on dating" from the standpoint of "women already being attracted to men they are advising". They give great relationships advise, because the attraction is already there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:04 PM
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> you're seeing them as some hive mind that acts up whenever a woman "breaks the rules". Calling women "pick-me" is "acting up whenever a woman "breaks the rules"." I'm just pointing this out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:02 PM
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> Don’t take dating advice for MEN. It’s too easy for MEN, cause they just stick their dick in whatever is closest. This is objectively not true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:58 PM
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Local woman re-discovers red pill. More news at 5
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:55 PM
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But in context of dating, there is also clear power dynamic between average man and average woman. Woman has way more options, and possibilities than man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:49 PM
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Asking this genuinely - are there laws (as in lawfully passed) that say women should obey their husbands (even, let's say, in those churches communities? (Genuinely, because i know US law-making is a shit show)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:56 PM
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I would make the claim, most younger men are emotionally vulnerable with their male friends. Why are we mixing couple generations together and make statements based on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:08 AM
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So you don't even understand your OWN arguments here, nice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:52 AM
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You are continuously putting concept of expensive first date, luxurious treats and just taking a woman out on date in the same bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:31 AM
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> And yet most men (seemingly) can't open up emotionally to their friends and depend solely on their partners for emotional support Me, when i'm applying boomer standard to whole population
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:28 AM
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Nobody is clenching their teeth about taking the women they love to dinner. You saw bunch of guys saying they don't like paying for expensive FIRST dates and build whole ass strawman on back of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:26 AM
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> Covering the date is not the shackles and "providing" you think it is Paying for date is literally a patriarchal standard, because women did not earn money (officially). > I mean, you've said it yourself I said what? That i will cover a date with a woman i love? This is somehow weird? Is it a hot take? I'm not sponsoring a two weeks cruise around the world for a girl i just met on tinder, i'm going to museum with a girl i'm seeing a future with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:22 AM
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That is a fair point. In the very initial stages it often comes down to her looks and attraction though, no? Depends how early we are. Now this is just my way, but 1st - 3rd date should be inexpensive and dutch, unless I really feel the spark, or see she REALLY feels spark. Then it can be free for all. It's a-changing. Men don't like to treat most women like that anymore And that's good. Times are changing, women earn money too, they don't need to be provided for. If we want to abolish female ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:55 AM
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Let me introduce you to a concept of calling women "pick-me", by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:23 AM
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Technically, but to land the one, you have to try with others
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:21 AM
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What you described as spoiling is an expected "bare minimum" from guys anyway, so i don't know what's the problem is...anyway. Of course a guy won't have a problem spending money on a girl he thinks is "the one". Those who talk about going dutch etc too, they just need to know for sure, she IS the ONE. A girl i barely know is not my dream girl. She could be, but not in this moment. > “If she really likes you, she won’t care about money.” This is not about not spending ANYTHING on a woman. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:09 AM
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Regarding fashion, there are definitely channels and resources not tied to manosphere/red pill. I mean, my whole IG feed is funny animals and fashion for men, without much manosphere content right now. The difference is the more red pill fashion was strictly "you want to be more attractive to women, dress like [current trend]." Less "political" ones are more about fashion as art, or just as finding your style. And since I was feeling bad in clothes that were mostly appealing to women, I switched…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:56 PM
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You? Why woman saying men are bad is not sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:58 PM
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Yes, that's an insult. Just like saying "you are not a hookup material" to your boyfriend/husband
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:54 PM
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So only cheating on a spouse is considered sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:49 PM
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But I never treated ANY woman to an expensive dinner though? So why should she feel jealous? I just said she isn't that type of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:48 PM
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Depends on why she didn't do hookups. She doesn't find them appealing? She need to have an emotional connection to have and enjoy sex? Or maybe she wanted to, but never found any guy attractive enough? Like, holy hell, i have never treated a woman to super expensive dinner, and i said to my current girlfriend "you are not the type of girl i would treat to expensive dinner". Now i'm confused why she is angry with me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:37 PM
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Congratulation. Before that you bunch of posts about men always being wrong and bad. Can we assume every female presenting user here is misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:28 PM
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While retroactive jealousy can be a part of it, it can also occur without any hookup past. I know this subs whole schtick is taking something really simple and twisting it so much it stops making any sense, but this is really simple. When your girlfriend, who would do hookups in past, tells you she wouldn't hookup with you - it stings. She is almost straight up telling you, she doesn't find you that attractive. That's it. I'm not jealous because she had sex in past. I'm hurt, because she thinks …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:26 PM
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The can't "smell it here". They just assume every male presenting user here is "a misogynist" for simply not putting women on pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:11 PM
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Lilith, what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:09 PM
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I would be offended by not being hookup up material, if my gf would do casual sex in the past, and would say to me (or others), "he is not hookup material". Shit ain't hard to understand, really
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:59 PM
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Yep, that's on me. I don't why i saw it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:34 PM
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This exactly. I never understood why women are so against coffee dates (well, some of them are probably just looking for free meal, but i refuse to believe it's most women). One more upside to coffee dates is being stood up on coffee date is not as painful as being stood up on dinner you already made a reservation, or some activity that had to be paid upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:44 AM
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She SHOULD. She WASN'T. That's the whole point. I have no doubts many women are judged on it, but not as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:46 AM
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> The other girls were like: "HOW do you not see this?" Oh, the irony
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:14 AM
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For the last 5 girls i scheduled a date (met in few different ways, in span of 3 years), 4 stood me up. I'm not sure what it says about m tho :V
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:26 AM
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I was 23 then (so 5-6 years ago), and i started watching this partly out of boredom, partly out of just being dumped by my first serious girlfriend (the way i got into this relationship was, after introspection, really fucking evil). I watched videos/read blogs on how to deal with my own problems, but also how to appear more calm, stoic, serious. I added to it changing how i dress, how to groom myself better. I wasn't some slob before that, but i learned that i could do way better. On top of tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:21 AM
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"Be good looking" is red pill. Black pill is abandoning all hope, because your bone structure is off, or you don't have predator eyes, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:48 AM
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My ex-gf almost went nuclear on me, when she learned my physiotherapist was a woman. Pretty much everybody around me advised me to just change therapists. Yes, women are not judged as much, or at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:40 AM
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So femininity is insecure, after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:37 AM
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"Documentary". I've seen better documentaries, mocking these "alpha bros" on YouTube
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:35 AM
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How many more showers do I have to take in a day? I'm already showering 5 times a day, but it's not helping 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:57 AM
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The problem arises, when you are living in a rather traditional country. Any girl I was on date with expected me to pay, and while there were few who offered, the ones I accepted it from ghosted me right after 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:13 AM
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There is absolutely no "in western Europe we split bills" 😆 And whether we like it or not, the USA is still the biggest cultural influencer for western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:03 PM
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Are you familiar with a thing called "an example"? Is "going dutch" wide spread and 100% accepted in all countries in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:12 PM
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I didn't even have to try, you walk right into it, head first....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:57 PM
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But IT DOES. That's the whole problem with this kind of "advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:11 PM
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That's cool. But why assume any guy struggling with dating must be treating women badly? Because that's my only gripe with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:39 PM
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To be honest, it's not even necessary, based on some people I know, but I wouldn't be with these girls anyway, so never mind My point is BPers paint it like some ultimate advice, and assume whenever a guy is struggling with dating, he surely is treating women badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:37 PM
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Uhuhuhu, so cheeky. I'm sure you are very pleased with yourself now. Sadly this kind of "argument" is stupid, because it doesn't prove or bring anything of value to conversation here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:44 PM
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> Sad thing is they'll dismiss any of us that do these things and focus on the Insta/TikTok content creators who demand royal treatment. "See? That's what women really want!" Just like women will focus on obvious fucboi, who treats them badly and go "See? That's how all men treat women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:34 PM
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"Average woman in US is 5'3" "But i am 5'7 though!" And i have never had a woman offering to pay even for herself. Whether you paid for yourself or not, men, in general, are still expected to pay every time. Either because "it's man's job" or "whoever invites, should pay (but women shouldn't invite ever, because that's a man's job)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:32 PM
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Blue pill defines itself as "not red pill". If red pill states looks matter, blue pill, by definition, states "looks doesn't matter". > Only 2% of Americans believe that looks don't matter. The majority believe that looks matter a great deal. Go up to someone and say "According to red pill, how you look like is very important in dating, do you agree?" and see how many people will either straight up disagree or try to weasel out, just so they won't agree with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:28 PM
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Sure, but when blue pill states it's "not red pill", then what else can be said? By the sheer definition of blue pill, the "advice" they give is: Looks doesn't matter (therefore just be fat), be meek etc > Then it sprinkles in misogynistic nonsense like "women are hypergamous subhuman adult children". Yeah, that's why i don't "subscribe" to modern, widespread on the internet, "red pill". > That last part is really the only thing that separates the red pill from the mainstream. From what people D…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:24 PM
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A lot of women would disagree here though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:42 PM
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So in what way they did improve? Became nicer? Kinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:02 PM
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> So unless the majority of young men are red pill and successfully applying its guidance They are. They literally are. Mainstream VIEW is blue pilled, but what they are actually doing is very much red pill. I know every single blue pill hon reddit has this mythical janitor friend, who is short, bald, fat, but is slaying it with these model girlfriends simply because he is "decent", but come on...really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:00 PM
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They call it blue pill, because admitting to RP would make them look bad in eyes of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:56 AM
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Successful "Blue pill" in mainstream is just red pill without naming it so, either out of lack of knowledge, or fear of being branded "incel" (despite having success with women).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:54 AM
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>Loads of BP men also do well. Just look at artists and musicians. You can be sensitive and creative and sweet and still do well. About which artists and musicians are you talking about? The famous and wealthy one who cheat, or the famous and wealthy ones who are not cheating. I kind of get what you were trying to say, but being somewhat famous is already red-pilled approach
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:48 AM
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> No women available to cheat with in typical women's fashion, once i was in relationships, some women magically started being very interest in me > No women found that was attractive enough that you could cheat with. I don't claim i suddenly think every other woman is ugly, but i don't care attractive others are - when i'm in a relationships, my eyes are for my girl only > Short relationship Depends what's short? But i never had the thought of cheating, no matter the length of relationship > Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:44 AM
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Coolio
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:40 AM
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You think you are clever here, but if you think "treating women like human beings" is viable DATING advice, instead of just a way of being fucking decent human being, than you are just as delusional as dudes saying "women only date chads". While blue pillers will hit you with "treat them like humans, duh", with honorable mention of "take a shower", red pillers at least throw in something actually useful, like build your physique, become interesting, work on your confidence and approach or at lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:35 AM
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So just treating women like human beings will warrant me a girlfriend? JUST this? That's what are you saying? Because that's the basis of blue pill advice - the just world. Which would be wonderful, i'd love for it to be true. But it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:11 AM
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I know it's not what's happening, but the wording here is quite funny "My 5'11 husband is so attractive, and my 5'6 ex boyfriend was horrible."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:04 AM
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> There is no "blue pill approach" for predicting dating. "Treat women like human being" is literally the most overused "dating advice" given by blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:55 AM
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1) that's on him 2) that's why I think things like that should be discussed fairly quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:23 PM
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Just...as women. That's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:07 PM
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Well, if that's your way of living, that's your way of living. I was just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:26 AM
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> Respectfully you know nothing about my dating life to make conclusions and it seems like you just judging. I make conclusions based on your comments. > But to answer your question and to show that it is stupid, i would go for men who i can't say the truth because i do casual. It's not stupid, and rest of your comment literally proves so. You lie in case of casual, which is morally grey, because you are not planning on building long term relationship here. you just want to have sex and go. > An…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:25 AM
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> he’s physically attractive to me Okay, so you are willing to ignore a pretty bad (from your perspective) trait, just because the guy is attractive. You are like textbook example of a woman pill bros are talking about XD > the vast majority of men have hang ups about women with a higher n count And? Aren't women supposed to be okay with being single, because men are not up to their standards? Like, you do you, i think you are wrong here (though i'm sure you don't care), just saying you are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:15 AM
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Why would you want a man, who would shame you for your past?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:06 AM
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So why lie about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:03 AM
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You played yourself, because you go for men, who wouldn't be okay with knowing the truth about your past. So you lie to them. Why would you go for such a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:59 AM
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> Both? Not sure how you can choose better if the man is actively lying to you. Because some lies are very easy to see through? Because very often people around you can tell it's a lie? That's literally the reason so many men say that past matters. Sure it may be harder to do so, when you meet total stranger you know nothing about, but i witnessed so many girl going for an obvious fuckboi/player/whatever you wan to call him, and then acted all pikachu face, because he got bored with them after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:58 AM
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> So, i dropped him, and i've learned that it's easier to lie. Just like many men learned it's easier to lie, and will continue to do so. Congratulations, you played yourself EDIT: also, why would you like to be with such man? Are they so attractive you decided to bare this? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:51 AM
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But why would you like to be with someone who cares about body count, if you think it's irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:50 AM
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Why care if someone is hurt by "body count"? Why would you like to be with someone who cares, if you think it's irrelevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:49 AM
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> Do men who lie get called out? Yes? > All I see is men defending them, or saying they are “chads” and women should choose better In context of lying? Or in context of said women consciously ignoring obvious red flags, because guy is attractive enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:47 AM
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You say "it's private". If he digs, you drop him. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:45 AM
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So again - where's the double standard? Men, who lie to get sex are getting called out, when the lie goes out, so why we shouldn't call out women for doing same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:42 AM
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Are you ashamed of your past?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:41 AM
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But where's the double standard? Men saying women should not lie about their past also don't lie to make woman sleep with them. And yeah, it's up to her to disclose that or not, but when asked, she can say "i don't want to tell you" instead of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:24 AM
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Skin tight, low rise jeans for the price regular Levi's, or 5 pairs of Wranglers 13MWZ. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:16 AM
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> use the apps >no, not the most popular and widespread ones! My man, i have used pretty much any dating app available in my country, half of them already had height filter for free long before there were even talks about it on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:14 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:10 AM
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Imagine a dude, who maybe used to lift from time to time, or maybe even played some sport. Now they are a dad, and have no time to do that anymore, so they get fat. Some muscles are still there, but they have fat to cover them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:06 AM
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> Secondly, men lie all the time to get into women’s pants. Okay? But going with your logic, they have all the rights to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:52 AM
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- what can i do to be more attractive to women? What women find attractive? - be attractive .....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:48 PM
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To me, "short king" has always been like "fat queen". We all know short height is seen as negative in man, so it sound like a mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:40 PM
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> I will add the other more female noted trait is insisting everything has to be done her way I still remember the fit my ex threw when i stored cup differently (in my parent's house)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:22 PM
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> Also, this sub doesn’t understand what women consider to be a good respectful person. For example: https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=IUWTJ6UYLXoqeXzn Shows one of the staged videos made to enrage people, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:07 PM
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> What else do they have in common? I'd say, from what i know, not much - except age (and it's rather a bracket, than solid number).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:03 PM
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> "common sense pilled" in blue > blatant misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:36 PM
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There's a difference between "i spent my 20's partying and getting dicked down in club's toilet" and "i have had few relationships (in which i had sex) that didn't work out"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:33 PM
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I can only base my opinion on my experience, and i experienced this directly or indirectly enough times, to think it's most women. Getting angry because the guy rejected them romantically, or because after being rejected by them he cut the ties altogether instead of staying "friends". Like, i'm not saying ALL women, but definitely most i have met. But i'm happy to be proved wrong anytime
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:29 PM
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> and are naive enough to believe what grifters are telling them 100% agree. Listening to the "just world fallacy" type of people (so the ones who would consider themselves blue pill here) for the bigger portion of my life very successfully destroyed my self esteem and romantic prospects. I'm glad i stopped doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:51 PM
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"Like, if that's your and your peers thing and you enjoy it, then i'm happy for you. It's not for me tho" It's literally there. the only reason i responded to you was that you were making it seem like very mainstream and desirable thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:39 PM
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I'm not going to lie chief, but every woman i talked with about it were 100% against any video games. And i'm not talking about spending 8 hours a day playing games, but spending 1-3 hours of your free time to play games, because "you could do so much more at that time!" (the "more" was just their own hobby)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:38 PM
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Don't get me wrong, i agree on societal level. I just don't agree MOST women would think it's fair or okay, because they already think it's not. They don't have problem when a undesirable (to them) guy doesn't find them attractive beyond looks, but when it's someone they want it's clear to see
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:34 PM
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Yes, but my 9 to 5 does not involve me showing as much of my body as possible (or straight up getting off on camera, or with another guy), so thirsty men would donate 5 bucks to me. Like, if that's your and your peers thing and you enjoy it, then i'm happy for you. It's not for me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:25 PM
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1) Show an initiative, and not after i asked about it, but on your own. You know how some women complain their husbands will only clean when they are told to? This. Dates, sex, everything around the relationship. 2) For the love of all things unholly - stop thirsting over other guys. i know i'm not the most handsome, or tall or whatever, i don't need to be reminded about that every time you see someone more handsome or taller. 3) Be present. Ask about my day, how i feel, do i need anything. I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:23 PM
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Plenty of things would be better for society that are bad on personal level. > I don’t think most women would think it’s unfair to be rejected because someone doesn’t like their personality or there’s incompatibility. That’s pretty normal and something we already deal with in friendships. I think most would, because they already do. Especially when they are conventionally attractive > That’s.. actually extremely fair. Like maybe unpleasant people should be rejected. Natural selection and all I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:09 PM
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Cuckoldry is fortunately not so popular as you might think. I'm happy you found your bubble tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:05 PM
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Quite funnily and ironically enough, i actively sabotage my dating prospects even more, because a woman just being pretty is not enough for me to actually want to engage with her. Which, in pair with my other traits, leaves me with practically no options whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:03 PM
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> Plenty of big tittie goth girlies who love anime and video games. Have their own twitch/streams going and so on... Because every guy dreams of having basically an internet prostitute as a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:01 PM
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It wouldn't work in women's favor, because it would either leave unpleasant women single, or "force" them to improve themselves, which i can guarantee you, would be branded as some sort of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:58 AM
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I did, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:40 PM
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Oh wow, you don't like something because it doesn't fit your narrative? How about you shut the fuck up and go masturbate to your fantasies? Biased much?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:14 PM
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That's sexist. Why are you assigning negative meaning to a word pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:12 PM
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You have your fantasy written in flair, so what are you even talking about, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:11 PM
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I'm fucking done. Y'all consciously disregard someone's bad reputation, just to get hurt later. I start to believe it's some kind of kink
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:41 PM
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Y'all love to disregard someone's negative reputation just so you can get hurt later. Is this some kind of masochism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:39 PM
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Gossip. Aight. Lived experience is gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:31 PM
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Here you go: I met a girl, whom i started pursuing romantically. It was going seemingly fine, or at least as normally it goes. First couple of dates to get to know each other, no affection then. no kissing, and definitely no sex. I didn't nag her about sex, but i thought we should be already pass the kissing stage. but she was constantly saying she needs to wait, she needs to get to know me better. Aight, sure. At one point her friend slipped and during night out started "laughing" about how som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:16 PM
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"So you see, what you experience isn't actually real!" Aight, there is no misogyny in world. At all. It's just ya'll fan fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:52 PM
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Oh yeah, i imagine i would agree (especially going with my friend). I'm not sure though if i actually know any bi woman except her :V
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:36 PM
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> No. Leagues simplify it, and often in ways that aren’t the most accurate. When you’re out of high school and frankly high-school adjacent communities. “Leagues” conceptually matter a lot less than “are we compatible" Why are you so obsessed with high school? How old are you? > Now, looks only leagues certainly 100% matter a lot more in some places - like places where the priority is a quick passionate fling, but I assure you when looking for actual relationships or meeting people as a whole mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:19 PM
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> you don't get to be entitled, think that you "deserve" someone. Why not? If leagues aren't a thing, then i get to be as entitled as i want. I want hot, fit and interesting redhead woman. So what if i'm short, bald, overweight? I WANT her and you better not tell me i have to improve to have a chance!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:17 PM
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Ah, i get it now. I think i experienced something like that, but rather on more friendly ground, than romantic, as one of my female friends is bisexual. And she definitely was easiest and most fun woman to hang out with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:09 PM
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Because your position is basically "leagues are real", you just don't like the wording, for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:08 PM
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Elaborate, please
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:04 PM
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Okay? That's their problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:03 PM
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Damn, you understood one word and decided to base your entire comment on it, when it was really just a easy to digest example of leagues. > the point isn’t to say “people aren’t attracted to looks. Go nuts” the point is to say what determines attraction is more complex than “cheerleader like jock” Sure, and leagues are already covering this complexity. How you think most of society would react if already mentioned ugly, short dude would try to hit on beautiful and fit girl? "You go, man!"? or "K…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:59 PM
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The actual text of the post literally re-invents the notion of leagues. No shit the idea of leagues don't guarantee that fit and beautiful girl will automatically find fit and handsome man attractive. But fit and handsome man has much better chances than short and ugly. That's like a common sense, that has been at play for decades. Shy and unpopular nerd getting with hot cheerleader is just male fantasy trope in movies, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:32 PM
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Why? OP claims there are no such thing as leagues. So if there are no leagues, that means everybody has the same probability of attracting everybody, right? Therefore i, a short, bald, overweight guy will hit on fit, beautiful girl and i expect to have same chances as fit, tall, handsome guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:23 PM
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Yay, victim pass!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:17 PM
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I'm polish, with high probability of ukrainian ancestry somewhere. Do i get the right to compare basic empathy to slavery? After all, our name - Slav - is where english "slavery" comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:15 PM
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It's not fantasy, if its real. Unless you are saying it's my fantasy to be able to do that. 1%, 5%, 10% - i don't know the number, i just know there are such men, i KNOW such men. That's their world and i'm not comparing myself to them; it's enough that many women do. > The other 99% of people date normally and get nervous and whatnot. Yeah, except women still don't have to date like men do - again, it's not some jealousy, it's just how we as humans work. A girl i'm on date with doesn't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:13 PM
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She may think he is "attractive enough", to allow him taking her on date. Truly attractive men don't even have to date really. They just...exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:59 PM
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That's just leagues with extra steps. Everybody knows being in the league doesn't mean guaranteeing a relationship with a person. It means having an actual shot with this person. there are exceptions where attraction is very subjective and illogical and there is not real enforcment of league segregation, duh. Exceptions imply there is a rule. And there is! Short, fat and bald guy has no chance attracting fit, beautiful and popular girl. Not matter how many mythical "short, fat, bald janitors, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:49 AM
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No they're happy about it because theres less to push out of the way for chad That's what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:40 AM
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Because never in human history a woman hired a maid, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:23 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:12 AM
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It's all just one big revenge fantasy, but according to any stats, young men are opting out of pursuing a relationship. And women are happy with that, because these men were never attractive in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:11 AM
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Wow, i'm shocked at this answer. Though it's not "some" women. It's most women. But i agree one should not date someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:08 AM
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You are right! I will go now and hit on bunch of super attractive, fit and popular women! Wait, what do you mean they don't want to date short, bald and slightly overweight guy? But i'm funny and kind tho! Leagues are very much a thing. It may happen that one person goes beyond their league, if they lucky enough, but that's just an exception proving the rule. Leagues are guidelines, which even you put in your post: > If you can’t attract someone you like, you deal with it: improve yourself, stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:56 AM
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What messy truth. If i'm 5'7 fat, bald nerd, i can;t expect to be liked by some fitness model. I'd have to work on improving myself. Afterwards i can have a shot with her. If she then likes me or not is down to personal level. Leagues are a generalization, not meant to be taken at personal level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:47 AM
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> A lot of the messaging about dampening your emotions, not being a wimp, performing hypermasculinity comes directly from men (just look at what manosphere influencers are saying about being a real man). I was literally dumped for showing "wrong" emotions. No, i did not punched a wall, i got overwhelmed by various events and emotions in my life, which resulted in me having first ever panic attack. I didn't even do it in front of her, i hid in bathroom, like a good boyfriend and she forced her wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:37 AM
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Why ya'll always try so hard to defend assholes? I really wonder that. > Can you give examples? From Cambridge dictionary: "Asshole" (or "arsehole" in British English) is a highly vulgar, offensive, and taboo slang term used to describe a person who is acting in an extremely unpleasant, despicable, stupid, or mean manner. It is frequently used to criticize someone's, inconsiderate behavior. I really can't imagine going for someone who is acting in any of given ways. > Some people might. And mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:31 AM
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> Is someones reputation a reliable source of information? Always checked out in my experience > What does this “asshole” behavior even entail? Being an asshole > Did he even act like an asshole towards her? If someone is rude towards waitstaff, but is nice towards you, would you still want to pursue such person? > You can be an asshole in some ways and a feminist. Oh definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:14 AM
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I guess it's in typical reddit fashion to dissect every single thing a man does, while taking women's posts at face value. As i already said - i have no reason to not believe OP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:07 AM
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> Y'all never seem to account for the woman. It's always that the man is so hot that she's ready to drop her pants. Instead of the reality that women are horny, they met a guy, there's good chemistry, it's clear both parties are interested in a one night experience. Why she is horny, meets a guy, have a good chemistry and have sex with some random (but hot) guy, but a dude she is supposedly attracted to and wants to have a long term relationship has to jump through hoops for even tiniest show of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:21 AM
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Right XD "I'm repulsed by jerks (love me some manipulators tho!)"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:17 AM
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These men are literally getting called names, if they "vet properly" (though it 's better to be insulted than to waist time on someone)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:03 AM
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It's really fucked up, how you think being manly means being emotionless shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:53 AM
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According to OP, she ran some feminist page, therefore she should still be repulsed by his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:23 AM
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If you are the one who asked her out, you are not supposed to have fun. You are supposed to show yourself off, impress her. The only man that can really relax and enjoy their dates are men who have countless options, that's it. I can honestly say that i have never had successful date that i really enjoyed. It was work all the time and even tho i might enjoy talking with the girl, i always had to keep the convo flowing (on top of, obviously, planning whole thing, paying for the whole thing etc). …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:21 AM
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Lol, i would also enjoy every single date, if it was basically free coffee/meal
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:14 AM
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For women to worry about messing up a date, a man she is going on date must be super attractive and desireable. Which, in turns, means that the dude doesn't have to worry about date, because he will get what he wants anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:12 AM
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Only Irish and black people were slaves? Huh, that's new
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:34 AM
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Like I said - I know the type, I experienced such rejection, so I have no reason to not believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:27 AM
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Could be. Though I have no reasons to not believe the op, that athlete really is an asshole (especially since I know plenty of that type)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:21 AM
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Although I agree being a jerk, cold, asshole helps...but it helps with specific types of women only. Your friend dodged a massive bullet here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:20 AM
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But the athlete being an asshole should, technically, threw her off. In the end it just means OP's friend dodged a bullet
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:18 AM
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Technically this Or maybe she, an individual, likes “bad boys”. would mean It’s definitely because your friend was nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:15 AM
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You can very well incorporate toys, kinks and plays that are not meant to essentially disrespect and replace your partner. I'm down to vibrating toys, bondage, domination both ways etc - I'm not down for bringing something because I'm not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:36 PM
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> Understand, you take that risk no matter what. Society has brainwashed both men and women that big dicks mean better man and better sex and the only answer to that is to not care (risky) or prove otherwise. I don't care. I don't have to prove anybody anything. She either likes mine or not. If she so desperately wants to try big dick, because she thinks it could be better, she can go find herself guy with big dick. Simple > If you have an attitude that your partner's pleasure is as important as…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:07 PM
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Depends on who she is. They're a thing for a reason. But it's a bit more like... If you liked tf-ing, and there's not enough to push together. So, as a couple, you might get a sleeve to hold there. Approximate the feeling with a little creativity, bc you wanna have that experience with her. I still think it's very disrespectful, but I agree - a matter of compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:41 PM
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I guess? Pretty close to petty bitterness, in my opinion, but I can see the reasoning. But there's still the risk of her actually liking it. Then either she leaves you (better outcome), or you are just the human machine powering up some dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:19 PM
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It's not even about "needing to be your partner's everything". Relationships require some form of sacrifice. If I'd get with a woman with small breasts, I think it would be very disrespectful for me to get some realistic "big boobs" toy, or to ask her to wear prosthetic boobs from time to time. At the end - if she "wants big from time to time" that means she just wants a big dicked guy (so not me 😆)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:14 PM
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And I said advice given TO ME by women IN REAL LIFE was bad. Also, it sounds like a lot of people on this subreddit don’t want to ask their friends to set them up so they’re not even doing the basic stuff. Most couples I know were set up by their friends. Is this not a thing that people do in your community? Tons of guys here claim their friends refuse to set them up, one way or the other. Including me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:08 PM
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I know it's not meant literally as "this person has small penis", but as you said, this saying intentionally ties small penis size with bad personality. Ideally no one should take these comments personally, but we are not ideal creatures. Edit: Just to be clear, I did not downvoted your comment, but for some reason my comment is being downvoted too :V
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:55 PM
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Aye, that can happen too, tho i never experienced it (being just a bit bigger than average, so small actually :V )
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:52 PM
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Speaking from a guy's perspective, i'd rather not be with such woman at all (because i was and it fucked me up pretty bad).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:48 PM
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> All I can say with any level of confidence is that I think more women like the idea of a big one than the reality of it I agree > and many of the others don't want a big experience every time, so it's more ideal to just add toys into the mix sometimes Eh, i don't know if that's good solution, but maybe it's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:30 PM
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> I think that men care about/think about penis size way more than women do. I think it's because making fun of men's size is so normalized, and any rebuttal is coined "small dick energy".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:28 PM
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I believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:25 PM
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I think porn and smut books successfully brainwashed a lot of women into thinking what size "a real man should be" even without them seeing such size in real life ever, though i can only base my opinion on talks with female friends, partners and online conversations. I also think many women are in this weird place of: - saying they definitely prefer average (to not appear as shallow) - while thinking they actually would prefer bigger (because they either had bad sex, or watched/read too much por…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:13 PM
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Sure you can. Despite being shy and rather introverted, i have no problem making new friends, after i get things rolling. This, however, did not materialize any romantic prospects for me whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:10 PM
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See, that's the problem with ya'll, and that's why i said "advice given to average dude with proper hygiene". Because average dude IS going out, he HAS friends, and IS asking them out for date set up. They just don't want to do that, because if he has to ask, it means he is "low value" (or whatever else fucking stupid phrase is coined right now). And who would want to set up their friends with some loser? You will say shit like "just go out", "just take a shower" and think it's some groundbreaki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:00 PM
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Though i agree men should have some standards, it's very easy to predict that raising them would also raise women's standards (if all men magically would raise theirs), and also singular men raising their standards won't change anything other than maybe making them more single (unless they already were popular with women and just somehow were choosing the wrong ones)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:52 PM
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And the only reason women (in general) are so comfortable "being single" is they are never really single. The moment you decide "eh, i feel kind of lonely" you can hop on tinder and find someone withing first few minutes. The mere thought, the ability to do that is what helps "staying single". It's like this rich dude showing poor people can become rich by hard work easily, so he "gave up" his money, started "from scratch" and then bounced, because he became sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:45 PM
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I found a shovel, so i'm digging up old posts From my experience,, any dating advice given to average dude with proper hygiene is useless. But when other men's advices are just unhelpful, redundant, women actually gave me BAD advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:36 PM
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> lol if every wife and gf stopped being thoughtful about what’s going on in his life, men would complain that women are callous and acting like men. Men don’t like being treated this way. They love “care.” They just hate doing it. It’s self-centered and short-sighted. None of my ex-gf remembered my birthday, and most of my friends don't remember them too. I have no problem with that whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:10 PM
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That's great! So one person will be mature, the other one won't. Congratulations, now your friend's group is no more, yay! Anyway, maturity, or not - friends are off-limits
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:06 PM
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Damn, that was supposed to be a joke, chill out people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:45 AM
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Imagine getting into a relationship, spending years together, and then she leaves you because you are no longer 6ft
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:14 AM
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I'm not "basically doing it now" tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:31 PM
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No, I don't. You fundamentally diminish the way blue pillers talk here. It's about for example the short dude, who gets constantly rejected, because he is too short, but being told here he is probably just a horrible human being. Blue pillers are the ones pushing "just world fallacy" What you described right now is literally interlude to red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:39 PM
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Because blue pillers, in general, claim looks don't matter - "just be kind" And whenever some man claims women prefer such and such men, he gets called names, by blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:12 PM
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Pretty much, yes? Only one side is saying shit like "just be yourself", "just be kind", "just treat women like humans".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:39 PM
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Dating inside friend's group pretty much always leads to the group imploding, due to breakup, drama etc. Friends of friends too. Maybe if you would go for like a person your friend's friend's friend's buddy invited once. In my whole life, i have never had two people of the same friend's group becoming a couple. Gf/bf is always brought in from "outside" Edit: Plus, for me personally, whenever there is any level of friendliness established, there is no chance for anything romantic developing. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:28 PM
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I agree house parties are great way of meeting new people simply for any level of platonic relationship. Romantic? Eh, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:14 PM
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