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I’m just going all in on career, wealth building and lifting/kickboxing You should be doing that regardless. put off of going back to the market, chasing ran through hoes and fucking feminists. Like for what? There are good ones. But yeah, you have to dig through a whole lot of trash. The great thing about having experience with hoes and understanding RP is that you can differentiate between trash girls and real potential pretty fast.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/26 08:09 AM
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I've been this guy for multiple women over varying amounts of time, but in the end I concluded I prefer LTRs for various reasons. What is funny (and partially fucked up) is that with RP-awareness, and understanding of how to prod women, I know for a fact that my ex went back to a guy from her past who also has precisely this attitude. Hell, I had this attitude myself when running through women. And I also know that my current ltr has a man like this in her past, and will likely go back if/when t…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/26 03:01 PM
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Telling us you have been on TRP for 9 years, yet you believe a 25 year old (with prior relationships) to be a virgin + ask her for exclusivity (after 3 weeks) + you tried marrying her? You’re not serious and this post deserves to be deleted as it adds nothing to this sub at all except yet another foolish BP example.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/26 07:35 AM
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Thriving as a solo player in this competitive day and age is only achievable for a competent minority. A fact is, though, that the average man can only marginally improve a womans' life in the present. Thriving as a couple is still difficult but relatively easier, however, picking the wrong partner will set you back even further.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/26 11:32 AM
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There are more than a few men who either don't care or don't care enough to find out/are ok believing she is a 'good girl'. So yes, they'll easily find a guy at some point. Personally I find it disgusting but have come to accept that attractive virgins are a fantasy. So long as their count is not significantly above average, none of those guys are in her life anymore and a moderate amount of time has passed I'll consider commitment if she provides everything else I require. Just never get marrie…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/26 11:56 AM
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You said it best 11 years ago While not popular as an opera plot, "Living Well" really is the best revenge. Ultimately, the only thing we can control is our own lives. Revenge fantasies, jealousy, envy are just distractions that hinder our improvement and ability to live to the best of our ability. Winning can look like many things. Having multiple simultaneous relationships with younger women, or having kids and settling down with a high quality partner who we have chosen deliberately out of ma…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/26 11:48 AM
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So your critique of TRP is 1: Women can get friendzoned too 2: There’s no magic recipe for getting a girl. what the fuck Your 2nd point is the most funny to me because any guy who's successful with women knows that buying flowers or 'caring' in the broadest sense are mostly a bonus to women and not a requirement at all if she deems you attractive enough. And that is what TRP is about. Not listening to women telling men what they want, but actually observing and applying a strategy based on what …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 10:43 AM
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I don’t think that most people will be on this extreme end and so I think that feeling love in this way can be hard to grasp. Yeah I don't think there are, especially nowadays where people can be economically independent. On the opposite end are those people who are purely motivated by attraction. I think that there are a lot of these. And for men there is a ceiling on how high of a quality mate you can sleep with (determined by your own attractiveness), but especially for women who are above av…
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/26 07:51 AM
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Also, none of my exes would trash talk me, which again is a major point of difference. I think it's funny you think that way. I guess that it takes an experience of 'I didn't know that about myself' or 'I don't remember it happening that way although I was there' to understand that people will exaggerate or even lie about these things, but also look back on things differently in hindsight, especially after a breakup...
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/26 03:29 PM
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Some people are very practical in how they approach finding a spouse. They will primarily look for someone with means or someone with a deep sense of duty to their religion and commitment to family. These people care very little about attraction. The main problem with not being into them physically usually unfortunately manifests as a dead bedroom and many people would view that as problematic. Some people completely overlook the practical. They only look for someone who is highly attractive who…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/26 03:24 PM
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5.5/10 woman is still average. 50% is below that. The entire problem is that people don't want their looksmatch/equal. The 2/10 guy thinks he's too good for the 2/10 girl because he's been watching porn since he was 12. The 6/10 woman doesn't want the 6/10 guy because she's was plated by a 8/10 guy when she was 21 etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:40 PM
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Welcome to the game. Yeah you are probably cooked. But I think the more interesting question is how you ended up in this situation and what to change going forward. A week ago, we had sex and I brought up the fact that I don’t do casual sex and asked if he’s sleeping with other women What do you think goes through a guys' head when you bring this up, right after having sex with him for the first time? Honestly curious. Also, you are practically begging him to lie if you play it like this. I alre…
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/26 09:28 AM
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Coke addict, cheater etc. etc. It's always the same cluster of traits. You say you could likely do better, so do it. Rip the band aid off asap, you will feel like shit for a bit, but long-term you'll be glad you did. I’m just so lost. You're not. You know what to do but you're putting it off.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/26 09:50 AM
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Just because a woman has earned all the upgrades doesn't mean she needs to be your girlfriend. 100% and the hardest thing is letting those women go. I think that as you level up as a man, and become highly desirable even among top tier women, you have to become super picky. Beauty, femininity, chemistry and compliance stop being things you select for and become more like a baseline expectation. And you start focusing on and selecting for compatibility. Does she hold similar values, is her life(s…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/26 05:56 PM
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Any decent businessman can compartmentalize business from personal relationships and treat people accordingly. Poor excuse
/r/RedPillWomen01/06/26 09:30 AM
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Only came across this AMA today. I think your answer far exceeded what he asked for, this comment is so spot on and something that bothered me a lot in my last LTR but couldn't verbalize. Don't pick relationships based on just chemistry and how she treats you most of the time. When you finally find a girl that you have super high chemistry/compatibility with on many things (and for me, truly become infatuated for the first time), you think that it's enough compensation for the one or 2 things th…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/26 02:50 PM
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Great post. “Men expect us to be better than them. To be more cheerful. To be kinder, more forgiving, more caring, more spiritual.” Instead of 'men want us to be better' I'd have used 'men want us to excel and exceed them at our natural inclinations' MAKE HIM BETTER, to be a good influence on him also this is great It DOES NOT mean you can’t be fun, you should be the goddess of fun and light, but think of a carefree childlike fun, not the fun of a party girl in a nightclub or the guys girl. Spot…
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/26 02:23 PM
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Precisely; those preferences being met are (surprise) bonus points. And yeah, my point exactly is that if you make that kind of stuff mandatory/dealbreakers - odds of finding someone are close to 0.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 09:07 PM
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50 years ago, you could expect, as a baseline, men open car doors, bringing flowers, picking you up etc. Anno 2026 that's going the extra mile. And as I pointed out in another comment, plenty of women see that as pushy/creepy. If you expect being driven home after a 2nd date as a baseline you're going to be disappointed, a lot. That's all.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 12:52 PM
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I'd not even consider going out of my way to drive a woman home after a 2nd date. Not only because I know that more than half would decline, and that some percentage would even find it pushy/creepy. But because I see no reason to make such a gesture for someone I just met and who has done nothing more than agree to have a drink with me. Chivalry is dead and women killed it.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 11:06 AM
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It's crazy to me that you consider a man not offering to drive you home after a second date as a flaw or somehow an indication that he might be self-centered. Didn't expect so much entitlement in this particular sub. What have you ever done for a guy on your 2nd date?
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 11:00 AM
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It's unreasonable to expect a man who's essentially a stranger to make you feel that level of protection. You're still getting to know each other. Agree 100%. Personally I'd not even think of driving a woman home after only a 2nd date. Amazing to read here that so many women still expect this kind of stuff anno 2026. Chivalry is dead and women killed it.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 10:57 AM
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You... kind of suck at vetting. You've spent three months with a man with no job or ambition. I think it's nice of you to even analyze anything else of what she wrote. If someone can't even vet for the most basic of things yet, they have no business to be writing posts and should be studying the sidebar.
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/26 02:03 PM
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I thought waiting a month before becoming sexual was enough time to vet someone properly He’s currently unemployed except for a small weekend job that pays minimum wage, and I haven’t really seen him take initiative toward improving his situation Are you really gonna put it on a month of vetting not being long enough, or are you just shit at vetting...?
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/26 01:55 PM
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Is falling in love with the first girl who properly fucks you (usually a sloot) some kind of universal cannon event every guys goes through?
/r/TheRedPill10/05/26 07:27 PM
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I think any mature man doesn’t fell head over heels for any woman. That kind of infatuation is childish and naive. You only fall in love like that with the perception of someone you’ve cooked up in your own mind. You can still love them though and enjoy your time together. But once you understand women and see them for who they are, you become unable to create the ‘perfected’ imaginary version of them in your own mind so you stop becoming infatuated because you see their flaws, shortcomings and …
/r/TheRedPill10/05/26 11:37 AM
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So you have been happily married now for how long?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:37 AM
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I'd argue that men just underestimate the value of a young woman. Especially one that has a decent looking face, is slim etc. So many women ruin their bodies with food/surgeries/tattoos etc. That 'next-door-plain-jane' type of girl you think is average is actually a 7/10. So no wonder she goes home with the 8/10 guy and here you are thinking there is a 3-point gap. And most men underestimate just how easily disposable and replaceable they are, unless they have made themselves into something uniq…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:21 PM
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I have been with enough men to know that when the woman is the aloof one, all men love the chase. I think this is total BS. It entirely depends on the guy's options. If he has options of similar value or more - he'll not even notice you are playing aloof and just forget you even exist. Most guys just don't have any options so that's why you think it works. The older and more experienced I have become, the more I realize that these kinds of games only work if you are their top option. In which ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:04 PM
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You are right but the difference is that men will only on rare occasion have a ONS with a woman who is out of their league in terms of a long-term relationship. Usually this happens when the woman is still very young (think 20) and doesn't know her SMV. Most men btw rarely have ONS in the first place. So it's an ungenuine argument because the framing doesn't match reality. How come when a woman has a one night stand with a hot guy, This is about 100x more common I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:51 PM
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Generally true but there are many exceptions. Plenty of women who cheat for no apparent reason whatsoever and plenty men who cheat because they feel unappreciated by their partner. Would also add that high extroversion & high socio-sexuality make for a higher likelihood of cheating because these people will generate more options & have a low emotional threshold to engage in sex. And I would argue that those are things you should look out for most. Of course, not all of those people cheat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:37 PM
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Well she did say marry a rich man which to me implies already rich, not became rich later. Realistically speaking, the only shot a woman has at marrying a man who is already rich, if she doesn’t come from an upper class family herself and is used to being around rich people all day, is to be young and very attractive. And that’s probably not the majority of this sub, like the majority of TRP are not Studs.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/26 12:50 PM
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Mmm I don’t think we’re far away from that as is. Only problem might be getting the LLM to write something politically incorrect. Such an AI will make human poste aside from field reports obsolete because it will write both leaner and more nuanced arguments/theories and structure them in a way that makes them more memorable/easier to understand than human writers ever could.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/26 12:42 PM
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I would say femininity is like talent. You have some of it naturally but if you don’t put conscious effort into improving, it will never become impressive. Also I would add is that part of the process is deprogramming some of the masculine habits you picked up that diminish your femininity.
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/26 01:39 PM
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Yep I know and you are spot on. The problem for me personally is that (unlike yourself probably and other guys with dozens+ body count) I’m not so extroverted. I don’t like going out frequently and socializing etc. So when I find a girl I like it’s in my best interest to keep her around as long as (ethically) possible. Also the sex gets much better compared to ONS and I appreciate some emotional connection. Question for you btw: when dating casually, are you very nonchalant about letting women g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:39 PM
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Never said once. I am a lenient man we all make mistakes. Many people have one or maybe a couple ONS and then realize it’s the most empty, vapid shit ever (hopefully). What I’ talking about is the women who don’t learn. Who repeat the same behavior over and over and when it keeps leading to unsatisfying outcomes. And then retroactively rationalise it like it was satisfying and they were growing and developing as a person. To me it’s like an ex cocaine addict telling me it was a phase and that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 11:45 AM
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Lol my point is precisely that women often try framing as if it’s not and that I find that amusing. Because most women I know want relationships with the men they have sex with for an extended period of time. And being told no over and over after sexually & emotionally investing is not good for female mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:37 PM
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Straight up lying is very different from leading someone on. When you call a girl out on this behavior she will just say I thought we were friends or that she doesn’t feel chemistry. Also I’ve had girls whom I told explicitly early on I was not interested in anything serious and 2 months later they would cry over me not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:34 PM
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Getting brutally rejected like that. Getting implicitly told you’re good as a cum bucket but not worth any emotional investment. I don’t think that’s good for anyone’s psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:43 PM
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One of the things that turns me off about high n-count women is the hamstering and lack of self-awareness usually. Most women can’t do NSA sex for long. In my own experience, there has been 1 woman (out of ~10 or so) who I have slept with consistently for longer than a month who never ended up wanting an LTR. All the other ones did. Out of those 10 or so girls I’ve only ever LTRed 2 the other 8 weren’t so happy. I can’t imagine dating a girl for months for her to never put out. I’d feel like a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:22 PM
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Yep pretty much. TRP is just the male response to women maximizing their sexuality/optionality under 3rd wave feminism where social enforcement disappeared and everything became voluntarily/optional. Men also maximizing their options erodes the middle ground between men/women and will indeed lead to a decaying society because of far less robust long-term relationships and fewer children in general. TRP doesnt just say ‘enjoy the decline’ because it makes us happy, it’s just that there is no stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:12 AM
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This is one of the reasons TRP was created. Basically we advice don't bother with girls for LTR unless you're her top option/best she's ever had. Because if you aren't you're going to get less-than-ideal treatment. If you have received top shelf treatment from women, the difference will be very obvious. This goes back to concept of alpha widow also etc. Guys who date alpha widows will have ego deaths if they ever find out how she treated her ex vs him. Didn't leave after ex cheated on her, facil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:43 PM
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It doesn't work only in the short-term on some low self-esteem girl who got pumped & dumped on her last 5 dates so she can build her confidence back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:37 PM
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100% correct. High desire is maybe a few 1-2% of men for most women. For guys in the moderate camp (probably 10-20%) they just have to play their cards right and press to right buttons to evoke certain emotions and then escalate properly. Low camp only has a chance when they offer a fuckton of attention/gifts etc and she has no better options available.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:05 PM
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Most women are just not attracted to most men. They 100% do have spontaneous desire if you are her ‘type’ (hot in whatever way she defines hot to be). It’s just that few men meet those criteria so often it’s a case of being attractive enough for her to be open to the possibility of sex + using game to trigger the right emotions & properly escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:01 PM
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While I do agree that a lot of women are bad at vetting, the same goes to men too. The difference is that women have way more choices so it seems that they are worse in it. Most men don't vet because they don't have options. Women do vet (but for all the wrong things). Another difference is that women go around blaming men for their lack of vetting, while men usually don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:32 PM
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Don't worry for me it's not difficult at all. It probably is for though, because if you went over all the context in detail you would arrive at the inevitable conclusion that you missed 99 red flags and that all your heart break could have been avoided if you had done a little more due dilligence and critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:51 PM
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i couldn't tell by all men who present women as stupid for not doing such a simple task Yeah because it's never 2-3 mistakes it's usually at least 18 'mistakes'. A mistake implies learning. Introspection. If you do the same thing over and over without learning from it, it's no longer a mistake, it's just a preference/behavior. A preference/behavior that men see as stupid. So they are right to call women who complain about this stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:49 PM
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Bwt if you really want to make a convincing case, give a concrete example of this When you’re actually in a situation, you don’t just pick from a clean list of “correct” options. You have to come up with those options on the spot, while dealing with pressure, uncertainty, other people’s reactions, and a lot of variables you can’t control. It’s not simple at all. There is no clear list of red flags. The same behavior can be interpreted in different ways, and it’s often hard to tell if something i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:24 PM
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Premium tier hamstering btw. Men don’t say vetting is easy. We understand that guys will talk all kinds of shit to get laid. So sure, mistakes happen. But there is a pretty big fucking disparity between 2-3 mistakes or 20+. A lot of the time it’s not a man who pretended to be family-oriented, hard working, chivalrous etc. That turns out to be a psychopath/narcissist. As women like to pretend. Nooo, you sleep with some attractive guy who obviously has a lot of options on the first date. While bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:13 PM
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If she makes you wait for a kiss for >2 dates and sex for >4… probably. Other red flags include taking hours to text back, making you wait 2+ weeks for another date and cancelling plans last minute. Also: only talking about herself on a date, having the expectation that you pay etc. None of these is a dealbreaker by themselves but if you spot a cluster… you’re wasting your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:15 AM
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Hot/cold is only effective if attraction/attachment is already there. I’d argue that unless you go full retard with it, it universally works. Being too available certainly is an attraction killer. You want to just be a teeny bit unavailable. Only messaging back after 4 hours is fine. Having the occasional weekend fully booked is good. What is not fine is ignoring someone for a full day or filling up your entire schedule and cancelling plans with them often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:37 AM
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Well if you want to plate women and live and uncommitted lifestyle - absolutely. If you want a high quality wife (with low partner count) to have kids with, you're out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 05:32 PM
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In the 30s focused subreddit women are suffering from peak hypergamy. The most frequent post from women is like "is anyone else just tired of dating" or "is anyone else just not feeling it" or "when's the last time you felt genuine butterflies, I haven't in years" bla bla. It's an extension of hypergamy, but mainly that's just the effect of the epiphany phase/wall. When they can no longer get 1) the attention of the men they desire most and 2) the easy commitment of guys they before didn't even …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:40 PM
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Banter is good as long as you aren’t self deprecating or clownish. Banter has to signal confidence, dgaf, social calibration = high status. Height & good looks are massive multipliers to banter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:07 PM
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Again, you're telling on yourself. Your idea of 'responsible' is very different from mine. To me, guys who are responsible with money have monthly budgets. They earn more than they spend. They invest what they save. Of course they can deceive about all of this, but in my view, if you have some basic knowledge about what a person with xyz job earns and you know them well enough to see their spending habits you will have a clear picture (unless they have a secret gambling or drug addiction they hi…
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/26 12:46 PM
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You're literally telling on yourself that you look at the wrong things. what does he spend his money on does he splurge in a responsible or irresponsible way? This is what you should focus on. Not if he drives a nice car, wears a nice watch or lives in a nice (rented) condo. The guys who are good with money save more than they earn and invest it. Not spend it on luxury accessories/women/holidays and other sources of fleeting entertainment.
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/26 09:57 AM
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I think that many women make the same calculation. Perhaps more unconsciously, though. The miscalculation often is thinking that you can have your cake and eat it too. You simply will not have the same SMV/optionality at 28 as you do at 22. Especially not after 30. Young, intelligent women LTR a guy who is also relatively young, perhaps slightly older, has decent SMV, is loyal/stable/family minded and has good long-term potential in terms of a career. You can always try dating the most handsome …
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/26 12:33 PM
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before settling down with the man who will be the mid guy who is stable, a good provider and a good dad. As a guy, this is precisely what triggers the anger phase for many. You are completely right to point out the male equivalent She is young and hot, but she is immature/boring/slutty/crazy, so fun for now until she starts demanding more time/attention/commitment, you know. Which can make women super bitter also. Just like a guy can consciously lead a woman on, a woman can consciously let the '…
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/26 11:44 AM
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Depth = ironclad frame. It's having examined yourself and the world so thoroughly and attacked both from so many angles that your mental framework and understanding of world/self is the result of a very long destruction/rebuilding process that leaves you with an unshakable sense of reality that you have utmost confidence in getting you whatever you require from whatever situation. You become completely unfazed. In other words, it's what is left after you have discarded every borrowed idea you ev…
/r/TheRedPill25/03/26 03:12 PM
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Money is completely useless, unless it's used in a way that makes her life more fun/convenient. Status is very important but only if it alleviates her own status in a way she sees as desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:31 PM
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See I think your misunderstanding here is what women see as basic decency in a relationship versus what men see as basic decency. Man wants something = abuse Woman wants something = basic decency
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:46 PM
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Hmm not sure what you specifically mean. I'd say they are intrigued/aroused by men who defy/disregard society's standards/rules and live by their own ruleset and are successful/popular regardless. Coincidentally, that is as Alpha as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:26 PM
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What if a guy used to take women out to Michelin-starred restaurants for first dates, but realized that wasn't working and was just attracting the wrong women, so he started out with something less fancy instead and saved the Michelin-starred restaurants for a relationship? I think this is perfect but would add that he also showered his exes with expensive gifts, pay for luxury vacations etc. Then tell his current girlfriend that he doesn't do that anymore and the reason that he always wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:00 PM
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I think, that on some deep level this is because these women know they are vapid as fuck. Putting hours into their makeup, sinking 1000s of $ into their wardrobe, having to engage in a shitton of social activities/networking to have as many people as possible 'like' them... Super insecure. Naturally, what they seek is someone who is the opposite of that. Some man who has a dgaf attitude. Who is at the top of the social hierarchy just by being his awesome natural self. Of course, this man doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:51 AM
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Let’s say I find 1 in 10 women attractive enough to sleep with. Perhaps even 1 in 5 if Im particularly drunk/horny. (Women in my age bracket which is 20s) There is no way in fuck that women are less picky than that, my answer is certainly higher than that of the average woman. If it were, women would all be walking around with triple digit body counts. Women are wayyy pickier than men in regard to whom they sleep with. Probably 10x as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:36 AM
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Everyone is biased but the great thing about TRP is that we can compare results we achieved independent of eachother and can then determine if there is overlap in what works/doesn't work. So the collective outcome is less biased than the individual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:50 PM
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he issue with asking women about the “truth” is that what they believe they want vs what they actually want has a pretty big discrepancy Wrong. The problem is that almost all women will give a list of 'requirements' but this list only applies to guys they are already attracted to in the first place. In other words, they are giving advice that is only applicable if you are already attractive in the first place. Women are like fish. They bite bait because bait tastes good. Then they will tell you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:43 PM
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Dude it's not so difficult to collect through observation useful data that gives us an idea about the general principles of attraction. Of course we will never be able to tell for one specific woman what it was. Mostly because it's usually more than 1 specific thing. But we can absolutely draw conclusions about what type of behavior/appearance is generally successful in attracting women. Just like you can tell what kind of behavior is absolutely repulsive to them. Doesn't mean you'll have a 100%…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:40 PM
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Completely agree with you. What I would add is that if we get to a point of war and many military aged men lose their lives, in the case that we win, I think it would be more than fair that the men who contributed their fair share during the war and survived shouldn't have to pay taxes for the next 10 years or something like that. So fucking sick of this society where everyone is supposedly 'equal' but the burden is never equal and it's just expected that you share your overproduction in every a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:47 AM
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I'd say that his take is regarded but I get where he's coming from. Basically no taxation without representation except he took it out on women only. I'd take it a step further and say that the people who actually fight the war (military age men) are the ones who should decide. Fuck some geriatric person or woman getting to decide if I lay down my life for their freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:40 AM
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I agree with you and think that a large part of this is semantics. What is 'treating a woman as disposable'? Is that bad per se? I'm sure some women think that if they don't get what they want from a man (e.g. relationship) he's treating her bad/manipulative. I'm also sure there are men who believe that other men who date multiple women simultaneously are treating those women 'bad'. Is a white lie bad tratment? Or omission? Or do we draw the line only at physical abuse? I think that men who trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:28 PM
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Like I get not being able to help who you're attracted to Yep, attraction cannot be negotiated. Can't turn it on nor can turn it off. but...at least figure out the extremely obvious pattern instead of complaining endlessly about your choices 100% agree with you and this is also something that bothered me a lot about women. The unfortunate reality is that women used to rely on their father/brother/community to vet men. Now they have to do it themselves and it costs them many mistakes to learn cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:02 PM
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Where being more aggressive, assertive and self interested is attractive, but also makes for a rougher person to deal with. Yep one funny thing about women is that many are attracted to the assertive, confident, self-interested ones. Then they act surprised when said guy keeps pursuing his own goals over the ones she made for him. Similar to how they are attracted to guys who don't come off as needy and act aloof in the early stages of the dating process. Then as the woman increases her emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:41 PM
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I'll say this much: 53 in a year is only doable if you structure your entire life around banging and discard women like mayfly. So yes, some low tier gig like PT or bartendering. Fun for a while in your early/mid 20s perhaps as a side gig for college, but you definitely don't want to stick around too long.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/26 10:06 AM
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I know but if I were you, I’d avoid using the word purpose altogether. Simply because you will have to write 4 paragraphs to clear up the confusion that this word will introduce because of how men associate to that word. You talk about fun attractive purpose but is purpose even relevant if the purpose of purpose is fun? Just skip purpose and go to fun directly. Cut out the middleman. Purpose is for yourself. Nobody ever got laid because of purpose. If you are smart, you optimize and you make you…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/26 09:58 PM
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When I say “purpose,” I mean ANY worthwhile goal a man may pursue, which can be his career, his hobbies, and his relationships, but also include smaller purposes, like learning about subjects he is interested in, going to the gym, keeping his house clean, and so forth. This is BS and you are still have some misalignment yourself as to what women seek, even though you partially backtrack on this later on. Woman want a man who is emotionally stimulating. That's it. You can do whatever the fuck you…
/r/TheRedPill23/02/26 06:53 PM
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I think we agree? I'm saying a man ought to experience casual first before trying long-term exclusivity. Because it will teach him that sex isn't all that special and that women are not not all that complicated or high maintenance. They are only high maintenance if they are not very much into you. But without that experience you can't tell the difference. Why not just cherish each other for a good time spent in each other's company and feeling fond of each other when thinking back? Completely ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:27 AM
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Where did I mention looks anywhere in my comments? Just your own bias projecting onto me. It's one, albeit one if not the biggest, factor that plays into being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:15 AM
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Well, it is true that as a man you always pay in one way or another. But the currency is different. The more attractive a man is, the less he will have to offer in terms of time/resources/effort. And this is really what trips a lot of guys up and causes the anger phase. The belief that attraction can be negotiated by giving more attention/validation/paying etc. And the reality is that none of those things are requirements at all (certainly not initially) they are just facilitators long-term. Man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:51 AM
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Possibly, but it's harder to have a clear grasp of your market value and what terms you can negotiate (how much resources you put into her vs what you get back) Women are pro's at extracting commitment and comfort from a man at the best possible terms for themselves. It's a negotiation process really. And if you haven't experienced real abundance you as a man have no idea how high to set the bar. In addition, without experience, you won't notice when they slowly try to erode the terms of that de…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:40 AM
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In my experience it's a matter of levelling yourself up in the same way you'd level up some character in a game. Of course, there is a genetic ceiling that determines the quality of woman you can plate even at the peak of your realized potential. The downside is that it takes the magic out of the whole attraction/love process. Once you've had a couple attractive women be completely smitten with you and you understand how you did it, it's no longer all that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:34 AM
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Hahah I'd say it's more like asshole = person who doesn't give them what they want. Bonus points if you do it while being cocky and self-entertained
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:26 PM
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I will say this and that's really all there is to it. Only after experiencing a woman lusting after you because of raw attraction (and not because you took her on 7 dates and jumped through all sorts of others hoops for her) only then will you have a healthy frame of reference for what being a desirable male is. Having a plate (really multiple because 1 plate is not a plate) is absolutely a mandatory experience. You need to know as a man what women are willing to do without giving them any commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:15 PM
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You observe the person over time and assess that way if they seem to be chaotic or mentally ill or destructive. Did I claim otherwise? You said It has absolutely no bearing on whether or not she will be a good partner in the future. Which is dumb. The reason TRP uses body count to make a snapshot decision is because most people don't have time to sink 4 months into vetting someone. Of course vetting someone for 4 months will tell you more. No shit. But I'm not going to make that investment if I …
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 12:02 PM
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It has absolutely no bearing on whether or not she will be a good partner in the future. Such a blooper comment and just as much of a caricature of reality as TRP. The nuanced answer is that it depends for what reason they slept with that many people, under what circumstances and how recently. If you are number 4 this week, pursuing a relationship is most likely a bad idea. Same if you're just a rebound for her ex she broke things of with last week etc.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/26 02:37 PM
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On Average I'd say 21-23. For most women their looks will start to noticeably (slowly) deteriorate after 25, accelerating from 30 onward. On an individual level, it completely depends: if a woman has already figured out what food her body needs, has a good workout routine, has figured out which dressing style compliments her figure the best, knows how to apply makeup well but also things like developed at least an average level of maturity and cultivated some personality etc. Many women are late…
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/26 07:29 PM
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Like saying that a guy with shit SMV and no game gets a good ending because he can still visit prostitutes. The game is about winning. For women, settling for a loser orbiter is hardcore losing because it’s capitulation (=‘I can’t compete in the SMP for the valuable men I actually desire’)
/r/TheRedPill12/02/26 02:46 PM
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It's only lying by omission if a woman explicitly states that she is anti-prostitution and would not date a guy who visited whores in the past. Many women lie by omission in regard to body count & also even lie when directly asked by conveniently not counting some men. People will often lie to maintain a positive image in the eyes of people they want things from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:49 PM
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i thought someone's sexual history is none of other people's business. at least that's what most women say when it comes to the body count question Of course but anyone with half a brain knows it's bullshit precisely because of the prostitute example. Another fun one I've discovered lately is that there is also a significant amount of women who will take issue with a guy being bi-sexual and having previous experience with other men. Although they will never admit this in public and even hold pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:45 PM
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Yep. Nothing gives a man more validation than a hot woman who wants to sexually submit and please him. People who think paying for sex is superior to the real thing have never experienced authentic uninhibited desire from a woman. Their entire frame of reference is them having to take her on many expensive dates an provide a shit load of attention to her. There is another way. But you’ll never experience it if you look and behave unattractively.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:12 AM
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I've examined for a long time all the beliefs surrounding this issue for myself and there are many, cultural influence being a big one. Biology/evolution being others. I'm not sure how big a difference it makes that some men tell young men they should be worried about this. In the end, people accept what resonates with them and discard what doesn't. The men this message resonates with would otherwise have come to the same conclusion later on, I think. That's how I view it but I could be wrong. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:56 PM
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if she treats you well and YOUR happy, even if you found out she slept with her ex a week before you, does it really matter? From personal experience I can tell you it's one thing to conceptually understand that what happened in the past most likely has no bearing on the present. But it's another thing to feel that. It's one thing to go in your head 'This should be ok because of xyz and I should accept this' versus 'I feel at ease and it doesn't bother me at all, in fact I don't even think about…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:37 AM
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Because they aren’t emotionally mature? You can blame anything ever on this, that is a platitude. they haven’t moved on Yes, no shit. But why? I'll tell you right now that if you find someone you have better chemistry with than your ex within a month of breaking up, you'll be over them. You're not over them because you're unable to find an equivalent replacement for the dopamine cocktail they gave you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:14 AM
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I completely agree but would add that if you find out she treated her ex better, he should leave. This goes from how long she made him wait for sex to if he was allowed to sleep with other women to what she expected from ex vs what she expects from him etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:11 AM
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Again, I don't compare women 1vs1 either. But what do you think a standard or expectation is based upon? A previous experience. Your standards and expectations are based on your subconscious making comparisons to previous experiences. And that is precisely the problem OP is discussing but in an unsophisticated manner. The more experiences you you have, the higher your standards/expecations become (because your mind is making comparisons against more data points).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:37 PM
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shouldn't Try telling this to every person who can't get over an ex ever. They know this, but feeling it is another thing completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:33 PM
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Then why do people keep pining over exes that dumped them? Feelings are not subject to this kind of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:32 PM
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As a good looking guy and tall who used to be very shy/unconfident/bad social calibration I can tell you that improving those things has 20x’ed my results and given me access to a caliber of woman that never gave any attention to me before. Good looks on a man is only a foot in the door towards sex. Just like good looks on woman is only a foot in the door towards a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:43 PM
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Thats the ideal scenario but there are plenty of women who have been with previous men they thought of as superior but couldn’t lock them down indefinitely. That is what OP is probably fearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:28 PM
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I see what you’re saying but that’s like me saying I don’t compare current women’s body I date to previous women while also thinking ‘her boobs are not so perky’ or ‘her ass is kinda flat’ or ‘she has a disproportional amount of belly fat’ etc. With the first girl I was with I never had those thoughts. But now I do as I’ve experienced more women. So while I don’t compare directly, subconsciously previous partners do affect your standards/expectations so what you’re saying is not completely genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:26 PM
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You aren’t special lmao. Fuckbois are a dime a dozen, and you’re no one’s first or only. Never said I was special, perhaps for a few their first experience. Quite a few are just very slow learners, I guess? Some even joke about always going for the wrong type of guys, they know they just can't help themselves and yet still end up disappointed each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:47 PM
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He’s actively made women he was more attracted to wait longer? Riight. I’ve not once in my life met any men who has made any woman he was attracted to wait, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:39 PM
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There's no reason why men should be able to "get casual sex easily" when the ratio of demand for casual sex vs the supply of casual sex is so extraordinarily lopsided. True. Casual sex is not new and most men have it. Completely false. Maybe the men you interact with. I'd say 70% of men never have casual sex (meaning FWB/fuckbuddy relationships) apart from a very rare ONS. most women are doing the nastiest dirtiest things with randos we just met. the data does show a strong correlation th betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:17 PM
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And the men I've wanted to fuck immediately, are the ones I've also wanted a relationship with and thus didn't have sex with them right away. Every time I hear women reason like this I rofl. Like do you really think that's going to make a difference? Especially when he finds out you slept faster with men you were less excited about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:04 PM
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Penis does have less value than vagina, regardless of my belief. Why else would there be 100x more female than male prostitutes? It's simple economics. Vagina has inherent value. Dick only has value depending on who is attached to it. If you truly believe the two are equal in value there is no point to a discussion. And to believe this you have to be delusional because everything points to this being untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:17 PM
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What I disagree with is that the screening, interviewing, hiring, etc takes effort, ie women can't be lazy. I get that's how you think - but let's take your 220k job analogy again because it's perfect. The amount of effort a company has to put in to find and vet a qualified employee for a 220k position pales in comparison to the effort said employee had to put in to be qualified for that position. And we can endlessly draw this discussion out but it always comes down to the fact that a high valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:10 PM
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Hmm I think you are reversing causality and effect. Men pursue because the dating market is set up in such a way that young women are far more valuable than young men. If you are the less valuable party you can try to be the pursued all you want but that will not bring any results. The only solution for a men - ever - is to increase his value if he wants to be pursued. OP is completely right in that women are lazy, but they are lazy because they can afford to do so. Market dynamic. Most men cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:18 PM
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100% true. I'm only 28 but already financially independent & good genes in terms of face/height + I work out a lot. Many women auto-reject me because they can tell very fast that they have no leverage over me based on how I look and act. The ones who do pursue me are usually very attractive themselves. They love how relaxed I am and don't put any pressure on them. However, after they become emotionally invested after a while, and they sense that I'm just as uncommitted as before, they start to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:56 AM
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Fucking hilarious how you compare dating women to applying for 220k year salary jobs. Most women are far from that. Kudos for proving OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:19 PM
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Increasing SMV and cultivating options is the only way to somewhat balance the playing field. And women generally can’t stand it on some level when a man turns the tables on them like that. By copying their tactics essentially. But simultaneously they are attracted and intrigued because of their biological wiring. It’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:15 PM
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pussy password doesn't exist. Being a high value guy on his own mission in his own frame does I could just repeat number 1 I come to the same conclusion every time. In other words, life is eternal competition + always take care of your own interests first. But that's just the starting point where you can begin to actually live. It doesn't answer the question of how to give substance and flavor to your life.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/26 10:19 AM
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For me, for a long time I was still in search of some golden nugget of wisdom that gives me a magic formula to find the perfect woman that will satisfy me forever and never cheat/leave. Hence why I kept scrolling through old posts. Since the beginning of 2026 I'm starting to accept the reality of the world & women and understand this is impossible as risk is unavoidable and you'll get bored/used to anything because of hedonic adaptation. Knowing this, I guess the reason I keep reading is that I'…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/26 08:57 AM
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I think the whole settling thing is just cope, we partner with people at our level. I agree men are more opportunistic, it’s just that we generally have far fewer options. In line with that, the amount of men who ever ‘make it’ is super small. In regard to the pair bond thing Im not sure what you mean, imo pair bonding becomes weaker for men and women as partner count increases as you get more used to breakups, dating etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:32 PM
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Ehh I think most of that is cope. 90%+ of people date (as in exclusive relationship) people at about their own level. LTRs with a large value disparity usually fall apart soon enough. When it comes to short term relationships men definitely date down and women up, though. Also it depends what age bracket we are talking about. Women generally have the upper hand early-mid twenties and men from early 30s onwards. What I mean to say is that a top tier 23 year old man cannot match the SMV of his 23 …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:54 PM
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Never said men are not like that, but I do think that men are less inclined to do so than women. Women usually 'upgrade' (vertically) men get a sidepiece (horizontally).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:41 PM
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What is your point? my SMV has always eclipsed the one of any partner ive had i dont like at all the men most of other women like, so thats reassuring actually. they must go for personality and thats sweet. So you go for looks but still pick men uglier than you? what
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:39 PM
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Close but don't agree completely. Hypergamy is defined as a ruthless biological imperative that drives women to constantly optimize their mating strategy by seeking the highest available combination of genetic dominance ("Alpha Fucks") and resource security ("Beta Bucks"). This framework posits that female loyalty is strictly conditional, meaning a woman will instinctively "branch swing" to a superior partner the moment her current mate is outcompeted or a better option becomes accessible. It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 11:17 AM
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The challenge is just very different. The challenge for a man is obtaining (high quality) sexual access. The challenge for a woman is obtaining (high quality) commitment. Women inherently being the party with the least interest on average is the main reason for that. Because of that, their partner has to take initiative way more and put themselves in a vulnerable, powerless position more frequently, while the woman is more often in the position to decide if anything happens or not. This gives wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:53 AM
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Hard to draw a line between nature and nurture. You really think any of this shit was different in caveman times? Maybe there is more of a psychological validation aspect to it today but men have always gone to great lengths to obtain more status/resources/women. It's just expressed as a deformity in modern society. But the drive behind all this behavior is the same its always been, human nature hasn't changed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:46 AM
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Are you confident and witty enough to separate yourself from other men based on just those 2 factors? Gonna go out on a limb and say probably not as I very rarely meet men who are. Your sexual market value pie consists out of many slices so assuming these two slices are decent in your case, the others are probably mediocre or bad comparatively. You will not have much success with women unless all your slices are at least above average. That's just the reality of the current dating market. At lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:59 AM
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Wanna know what good game is? Confidence. Wit. Not seeking approval. Outcome independent. Light banter. Small tease here and there. Ability to keep the conversation going and move things forward toward escalation. Now if you combine all that with looking sexy you'll get pussy for the rest of your life. If you look disgusting, no amount of game gonna save you. If you look 'average' like most guys do, you're going to have to approach a lot and do many sets to find a woman that is receptive. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:47 AM
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Even beyond the social construct there is still something in my brain that makes me obsess over pussy. For me it's not related to status much as far as I can see consciously. Like... Even if there would be no other men around I'd still think about getting laid half of my day. Something biological/evolutionary that makes you crave it, not just social.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:28 AM
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Dude I think any man will agree that if we didn't have something inside our brains that makes us want/obsess over pussy we'd have a much easier and more comfortable lives. But that's not how evolution created us because we'd have long died out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:25 AM
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100% A sign of maturity is not never having made mistakes. Maturity & growth means that you took accountability for those mistakes and took the time to learn from them in order to avoid making those mistakes again. Playing victim and writing past mistakes off as insignificant is the hallmark of someone who has not learned a thing and is bound to repeat them. Always avoid those people.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/26 07:48 PM
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So you're saying you've come across a woman who became more attractive as she aged and started asking for less commitment/time/resources? Please capture this unicorn so we can study it.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/25 11:57 AM
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Men absolutely can make those judgments because the context for those judgments is different. When men say women aren't picky enough, they are talking about casual encounters. How easily women give away their bodies at times. When men say women are too picky - they are talking about relationships and the tendency that a lot of women nowadays make far higher demands than what they have to offer. And what particularly angers men is the wide gap in terms of bid-ask between those two strategies wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:35 AM
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All men want a slut that is only a slut for them how hard is it to understand? Just like all women want a self centered Chad who can get any chick but chooses her and treats her like a princess. None of this shit is hypocritical humans just want things that contradicts itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:05 AM
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It’s pretty much universal knowledge in TRP that the more favourable the female:male ratio, the better that dating environment is for men as women compete with a race to the bottom strategy which creates a very casual & short-term dating market. If she’s not offering the good-good another girl will… On the other hand, high male:female ratio indicates far less sleeping around, much higher pressure to commit sooner etc. Because women have more leverage in that environment, can be pickier and ask f…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/25 04:30 PM
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TRP goes too far with the insistence that men don't care if women are educated or what they do for work, but there is some validity to it. Men care insofar as it shows intelligence & conscientiousness/drive. Because most (successful) men are not looking for a leech/lazy slob. You don't have to be a homeowner or high earner, as that usually comes with a high-stress, long-hours career (which is a minus); just don't be up to your eyeballs in debt and have some budget management skills. OPs problem …
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/25 01:23 PM
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All men fall in love with her except this man. She begins to wonder: Does he see me as unattractive? Does he see me as beneath him? From here, she starts believing that he is of higher status than her. The issue is not love; it is the pursuit of validation, because suddenly one person’s validation becomes tied to her perception of self-worth, and he alone becomes the key to resolving this psychological knot. She begins to pursue him, believing that this is how she will gain validation, exerting …
/r/TheRedPill05/12/25 02:11 PM
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I broke it off with a woman who was 1 year farther along with her medicine study than you are, not that long ago, actually. The way I see it, (one of) the points of having a decent education and good pay as a result from that as a woman is that you'll always have a plan B. That's what women didn't have 50 years ago. So when their husband became lazy/abusive/cheated etc. they did not really have the ability (leverage) to walk away easily. Completely dependent on the guy. That said, for most women…
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/25 09:35 AM
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I, for one, think that your comment promotes a patently false/misleading narrative. I do believe that radical feminism is the result of breadwinners failing to uphold and honor traditional femininity. For the sake of historical accuracy, we can at best say that this is a chicken or the egg problem. At worst, that this is what women created themselves. There’s a reason so many grandmothers want their granddaughters to be financially independent. The reason for this is that 50 years ago there were…
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/25 08:38 AM
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I get laid ez through OLD with 6s as I am at least 8 maybe even 9/10. What I'm talking about is that you want to minimize effort to bag the 7s and preferably even 8s or 9s after having maximized your looks. These higher quality girls generally require more effort in the form of pre-selection/status. You're not scoring 8s or 9s through OLD. Generating new leads, having them vet you and having to close them costs valuable time. A good Instagram not only accelerates this process but also gives you …
/r/TheRedPill15/11/25 01:16 PM
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Play with her mind. She'll cave. Of course, but the men who experience these problems don't know how to do that, or they would never get into that situation to begin with. My broader point was that girls who were once 'down-for-anything' start making demands from hubby some time into the relationship. So men be aware that they're going to have to do this Play with her mind forever. And even then there will be things you won't be getting out of. Of course, you'll get things for it in return (at l…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/25 08:23 AM
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I think your comment perfectly illustrates the #1 mistake a lot of women make. I think you need to focus on the fact that this man, however perfect, did not marry you. This man could have been perfect in every other way but an inability to commit. That would still make him not perfect. He doesn't want what you want. He's not ready for something serious. That's not a perk, like being 6'3" or fabulously wealthy. It is an absolute dealbreaker if you want commitment. A man can have all the qualities…
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/25 12:38 PM
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Everything women claim to want in men is based on the assumption they are already attracted to him in the first place. That explains everything. Stupid men make the mistake of thinking that doing the things women say they want makes them attractive. But those things never do since they are of secondary or even tertiary importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:51 AM
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I think that anyone who sees reality for what it is has a cynical inclination. Doesn't mean that life isn't worth living or that happiness/a good relationship don't exist, but rather that happiness is a temporary state, relationships go through many stages and that people are usually looking out for themselves first. The bedrocks of life/survival are competition and struggle. That's not all there is to it, and it's disappeared for a big part from people's every day view because of how abstract/t…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/25 08:38 AM
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A relationship is essentially a social construct that relies on ongoing negotiation to sustain itself. It's absolutely transactional, the love/emotional component is more the roof on the house is the way I've always perceived it. Without a solid foundation and walls to support the house, the roof collapses. It's a cold/unemotional way to look at it and that's why people rarely phrase it like this, but I think that's the underlying reality. Orion is quite realistic in many things he says and cuts…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/25 08:29 AM
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Depends on what you see as poorly. For the most attractive women, I would cancel other plans and go out of my way to see them. Give them lots of attention, keep their needs/emotions in mind etc. Other women I didn't care much about I would flake on if she was causing inconvenience, I'd ignore their messages for days etc. Again, women do the exact same thing if they don't like you that much, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:16 AM
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Of course no numerical ranking system can be universal and there's always arbitrage opportunity, that's why I said it can happen that there is a significant discrepancy in mate value between 2 partners. And you'll hear about an exception a few times in your life where a 6 does land an 8. Again, those are anomalies. So there is partial evidence that you’re wrong with OP’s own example OP said she's a 6.5/10 in terms of looks and a baby momma. Guessing she's probably early 30s, to me that makes her…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:56 PM
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Men and women value differen things in the other sex and with different weights. We all know that. You know that. Op knows that. I can guarantee you that most people don't know that, and many of the ones who do tell themselves it's wrongthink. If people did know, RedPill wouldn't exist, and we'd not be having 90% of the daily discussions we have in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:46 PM
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Obviously, leagues carry a degree of subjectivity. But it seems well reasoned to me that there is a higher likelihood for a person who sees themselves as super/above another to give poorer treatment to them than to someone they see as an equal. Of course, there are delusional people who think they are far more important/special than they are, and also assholes who treat everyone shitty no matter their place in the hierarchy. Regardless, a man will surely treat a woman who he perceives as 'best h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:16 PM
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Get what you're saying, but OP is just pointing out the surface level hypocrisy. Just like how women point out that men ditch women for high body count while they have high body count themselves. But yes, men and women are not judged/valued for the same things in the same way. No matter how hard people wish that was how things worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:39 PM
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Crazy how you try to spin her being in a worse position as being superior somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:33 PM
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A female 6 simply doesn't hold on long-term to a male 8, 99% of the time. Maybe this woman can get some mediocre guy who owns his own house to commit to her. But it rarely (never) happens that a woman who is mediocre in every way holds on to a man that is attractive/confident/intelligent/rich etc. Because every guy who is an actual 8 has actual, tangible options. she probably can because men have super low standards. This never applies to a guy who is an 8. Maybe to a guy who is a 5 or 6, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:34 AM
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This is explained by the demographic transition model. In pre-industrial societies, birthrates are high because death rates (especially child mortality) are also very high. Having many children is a rational strategy to ensure some survive to adulthood and to provide essential labor for the family (e.g., on a farm). As a country develops, sanitation, medicine, and food security improve, causing death rates to fall. Birthrates, however, take longer to come down, leading to a population boom. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:19 AM
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I used to subscribe to that same logic because it is indeed one of the cornerstones of TRP. But I think reality is more nuanced. If what you are saying was true, plates would never break, so long as you keep your status/charisma/game/looks/frame at the initial level. But plates always do break. Because they want more. More commitment/better treatment. You can treat a girl like shit for a while in the initial stages, flaking on her, ignoring her, and so long as the sex is good she will stay aroun…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/25 02:49 PM
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I think that it’s true that women lose sexual attraction for men who completely ignore their emotional needs. Because for them there is a link between affection and sexual attraction, while for men, those 2 are separate and we can be sexually attracted purely because of the physical aspect. I do think it’s true that men with a much higher sex appeal can get away with avoiding her emotional needs more and for longer, and that the exact opposite applies to unattractive men.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/25 07:37 AM
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My understanding is the same. Basically any environment that has high volume/short exposure - dating apps/speed dating/night-life, people select for the most superficial qualities; e.g. looks/height etc. If you weren't born in the top 20% as a man lookswise, you need to be in environments with long-time exposure and low volume. That's when women start taking other qualities into consideration in terms of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:36 AM
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Looks maxxing, being social and around other people, putting yourself out there is going to yield 10x the amount in terms of results than a career ever will. Decent income is only important in the context of starting a family for most women. And you dont need to make millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:18 AM
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It's funny you link this discussion back to respect - because I've noticed this is my fundamental problem. I've really never met any attractive woman I could respect after getting to know her. Either because of how she'd let me treat her or how she'd let others treat her (in the past). I can't respect someone that doesn't respect themselves. And I can't get myself to invest long-term in someone that I don't respect. The thing is - circling back to the Madonna-Whore complex, I don't respect the w…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/25 08:44 AM
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I was born into money and find it very weird that people envy or look up to wealth. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:36 AM
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It's also weird to see other men envy my height in the context of being around taller women. Or women envy the carelessness I walk around with in the dark. Or as a child how other children admired the mansion I lived in. We like to ignore the ways in which we are privileged, and we don't consider the lack of abundance others might perceive in that area.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:23 AM
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It is completely your prerogative to fuck around in your 20s gaining experience and when you find a guy that you see a future with to go for an LTR. All I say is; just don't complain when he doesn't want an LTR with you, after finding out about your past, and he makes the choice that he'd rather play the field himself than commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:18 AM
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But in most societies married men, not promiscuous men, has been viewed as having higher status. Promiscuity is often seen as immature and lower class — for men and women both. Like, it's funny how you guys assign all sorts of morals to promiscuous women (that you'd call anyone who had at least one casual partner) yet claim men all men get sense of self from how many women they fucked. I find it interesting that you first argued that promiscuity has been seen as lower status for both men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:12 AM
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Really disagree. I mean, I don’t doubt it is trie for you. It's also true mostly for insecure men who easily fall for social conditioning Even after deprogramming yourself from 'toxic masculine' indoctrination, guys still like money and hot women ;) The only change is how much value they attach to it and how much effort they put into it. Some men completely reject/stop caring about social hierarchy/money/women after mentally detaching from said indoctrination. And they probably feel great. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:41 PM
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Facts but you'd better not say any of ts in public (;
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:28 PM
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A lot of what people call “emotional intelligence” today is really just emotional expression. This 1000x Multiple women have told me I suppress emotions/rationalize my emotions. The reality is that I just don't particularly like discussing complex feelings that I don't fully understand at that moment. It takes time for those emotions to crystallize, and it's been my experience that sharing them with women (partner) prematurely just causes confusion and especially anxiety. They will tell you to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:20 PM
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For many men, especially less confident or successful, sexual access is an indicator of status. It is for all men. Just like money. The mistake you make is that you think that at the top the rules change. They don't. At the top, it's just assumed you have those basic things taken care of, so people don't talk about it. There are still dick measuring contests, but it's much more about exclusivity. Who can get some rare car/watch/art. Who you have access to etc. Pretty women and sex are in ample s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:04 PM
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Sure, it's mostly based on insecurity. Doesn't mean said insecurity is invalid. Which is the picture women often try to paint to downplay the validity of men's feelings, only making it worse. That's the only motivator powerful enough to weather the storm of constant rejection and failure. You were precisely spot on here. Even for guys that are well above average in terms of attraction, rejection is super common. Guys know how hard it is to get into a woman's pants. Especially casually. Most can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:52 PM
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Absolutely. Not only that but the more a woman is ran through, the more merit badges she collects. If Mr. 4/10 was smarter than average, but ugly then she earns the ‘smart’ badge. If the next one is 6/10 looks but dumb as a rock, she earns the ‘above average looks’ badge. People often make the argument that women will construct some 'super Chad' by combining the best attributes of their previous partners. I think that's BS. I would say, though, that if she's had a guy who was 8/10 smart or hands…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 03:54 PM
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Believing the rationalizations given by women for their behavior when it is being criticized is foolish. Most of the time they don’t know, since it requires a level of introspection and personal accountability they’re usually incapable of, and the remainder they won’t admit to it because it makes them look bad. 100% you have to run it through a translator and fill in the intentional blanks they leave. while she can sleep with those out of her league (in attractiveness) they are not proposing to …
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 10:31 AM
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Sure, it returns to some more normal baseline, but it's not my experience that my libido complete disappears? Only once has that been the case for me, and it's because she gained a substantial amount of weight, we talked about it, she didn't put in any meaningful effort to change & we eventually went our separate ways.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/25 10:28 AM
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100% on board about there only being 6/7s to score with on dating apps. Very rare to see an 8 let alone to get her to go out with you. And I’m a traditional good-looking/tall/muscular guy, very frustrating and women have it sooo easy. But the competition and gender imbalance is so extreme that basically dating apps are only viable to get slightly above average women at best unless you are a literal 10/10. Yeah elite social groups is where it’s at. The reason is you aren’t getting into those unle…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 07:42 PM
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Right on... people hate because they know they can't pull it off. I bet the vast majority of these people have not operated in higher status clubbing/party scenes. Me neither, but I realized that if you want 9s and 10s that the social status aspect is so fkn important. Good-looks/game/money only gets you so far, the biggest problem is scalability and IG is by far the best way to quickly demonstrate that social/lifestyle aspect of your value in a scalable manner. The entire upper echelon of attra…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/25 11:32 AM
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No issue in this particular case. The problem imo is that there are many other women who do hold men to a bar they can't meet themselves. And so do men btw. Most people just have a hard time admitting who they are and where they are at. Unwilling to work on themselves and improve but expecting the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:54 PM
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Sure it's a loaded question but you can still answer it constructively. I'd say that back in the day women were willing overlook certain flaws in a man. And it seems to me that the bar has indeed raised. Women no longer tolerate subpar. And the problem is that there are just relatively few men who are the 'whole package'. Not saying they only want giga Chad. Not at all. But if you have some underdeveloped trait, many will be quick to write you off. Back in the day I think that more women were no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:51 PM
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Why beat around the bush so much and say a whole lot of nothing? The simple fact is that lots of women no longer care for 'good men' or 'providers'. At least not in their early 20s. They want the guy who provides fun. The guy who is hot. The guy who takes them for an emotional rollercoaster ride. And this behavior lasts well into their late 20s or even early 30s. And by that time many have gotten accustomed to these type of men to the point where a regular guy doesn't do it for them anymore, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:42 PM
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To start off, people who dismiss this are small-minded idiots. Stuck in some pre-digital era paradigm 15 years ago. This is the greatest form of pre-selection that currently exists. Not only because it signals high value, but because it is infinitely scalable. Btw, this won’t work unless you are at least 7/10 physically. Maybe even 8/10. Otherwise, it will just look retarded and inauthentic. Also, you will need lots of friends/different social circles. And they need to be attractive as well. If …
/r/TheRedPill13/10/25 11:45 AM
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It's not that you're wrong but you've probably missed out on 4x as many women because they were shy/afraid of rejection and so on and wanted you to make the first move. Figuring out what subtle indicators of interest women give off, having the balls to approach and the persistence to convert it into something is what will make your results go 10x.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 10:12 AM
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I wouldn't say that women have game per se. What you're referring to I would classify as 'enthusiasm' or the ability to make interacting with them go as smooth as possible. If you’ve had it, you wouldn’t settle And yes, once you've had a taste of it, you stop being interested in anything less. though I’m not saying a lot of people don’t. This is the sad reality, isn't it? I see this kind of couples all the time, and it's super fucked to watch them try to stop the ship from sinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 10:06 AM
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1000% And when you have some experience under your belt and can separate the 'meh' chicks from the 'Fuck yeah' type of girls, you will never spend another day chasing a 'meh' chick or settle for anyone who gives you less than the best they have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 10:01 AM
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I wouldn't say moral failing - but, assuming you are looking for something serious, and time after time the men you select do not want you for an LTR - surely must affect how you view your value on the relationship market, and maybe more importantly also make you question your ability to select men? Because when your results deviate that much from your ideal outcome, at some point you have to take accountability and look inward, right? Unless of course a woman prefers to live under the delusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:20 PM
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Good response, and I think that's a very healthy way to frame it. Still, I can imagine that if you date/FWB many people, sure, many of them will be incompatible for you as a partner, but if even the ones that do seem compatible from your POV, and you date for months, ultimately want someone different when it comes down to it, that must really start to sting after a couple of times I can imagine. Which is what I've seen happen to many women I know personally, but according to the answers here, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:01 PM
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The difference is that men do not see a woman as more attractive for the sole reason that she’s getting attention from other guys. An unattractive woman getting attention is still unattractive. On the other hand, an unattractive men that gets a lot of attention is viewed by women as attractive because ‘he must have something good’ to be able to get all that attention. Its called pre-selection and it really doesn’t work in the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:23 PM
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He’s more of a cynic than me. It’s not so much the girls’ fault, because nobody ever told them how the game is played. They get attention from the male 8/9s, unlike their girlfriends who are 5/6s. So they want to bag one, because they think they can and because they want to show off. But these guys just rotate the 7s within their group and never commit to one long-term. Women suffer from the same delusions men have, albeit in a different way. Men believe in the fantasy that women, like them, mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:59 AM
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You are right. And thats why red pill women tell women to vet men. The problem is, unless a girl is very attractive and overall high quality herself, Chad will always next her immediately when she delays intimacy, because he has plenty of options. And chicks know this so according to game theory, it just leaves her with the only ‘viable’ option (which is very high risk) to go all-in on Chad immediately. And get burned 9/10 times. I actually feel for these women (who are usually 7s) because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:41 PM
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My colleagues all tout that they want a passionate, driven, and equally educated woman, and most of them pursue one/have one because of similar interests, environments, etc. But, that's just the resume. I'd say that's true, but it's of secondary importance. It becomes important when there is physical attraction and personality chemistry. Most successful men don't want a long-partner they have to carry/who leeches them. They don't really care what she does, as long as it's something that adds som…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/25 11:29 AM
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The premise of your question is flawed because you have a very distorted/carricature view of what RP is... The businessman from a wealthy family who graduated from a top school is not going to go for a submissive and deferential woman with no career prospects or prominent background as his first choice. This is not only a very narrow definition but also a very immature one. RP is about understanding the nature of reality and specifically gender dynamics and being able to implement that understan…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/25 11:05 AM
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Some may choose that route, I've chosen the route of also travelling. And I hope that when I've finished my travels to feel no resentment towards other travels anymore (not that I really do currently, because I get why travelling is fun) but more so because I have the same experience under my belt to not feel 'less than' anymore and that the relationship is more equal. I wasn't comfortable not knowing either, which, I tried at first, but after some things happened (namely walking into 2 exes of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:24 PM
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I still hate the idea of dating high-n women since I trust statistics that they're higher breakup risks (and being forced back into the dating scene is terrible for men) I also don't like how they hooked up with other guys but want me to commit first (would actually seethe eternally over this, in fact, poisoning the relationship). Also I'd feel great pressure to cheat if I felt I didn't get to have as much life experience as my partner did. And I'd be paranoid about her past partners impeding me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:23 AM
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For me, it's not about experience as in skill, but as in frame of reference. I had a feeling of wanting to explore further before I knew about her experiences, and that only grew stronger after I found out. At this point, I am quite understanding of that need to explore (which is stronger in some than in others). To give an analogy; It's like I was relatively happy living in some small town, but when I heard a friend tell about their experiences all over the world I felt like I was missing out a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 11:13 AM
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Well for me personally after finding out my partner had multiple x my partner count it was more about that I felt my frame of reference was rather limited and I felt the need to do more exploring myself. I felt I was underdeveloped comparatively to her and that was unacceptable to me. It’s obviously insecurity but that doesn’t invalidate or make the feeling disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 10:07 PM
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The scariest thing for a monogamous man is committing to a woman with no morals, or no agency. Even if you're coming around on morals, you sound as if you're a stiff breeze from succumbing to the next thing life throws at you. Classic victim mentality. This 1000x. Not just a bright red flag for any commitment minded man with a brain, but also if you view yourself that way, you're bound to repeat the same mistakes.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/25 09:41 AM
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Id say that women only do this for men they deem ‘super attractive’ (whatever that means to them). Basically, they view the guy as ‘best she could ever do’ and they give premium treatment because they realllyy dont want to fuck it up + accommodating and pleasing him is extremely satisfying to her as well. Moet men have never experienced this and I think most relationships are not like this, unfortunately. Many women have never given it either because they’ve never been with a guy they were into …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:40 AM
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Ehh you have to be literal top 1-2% lookswise for women to consistently approach you. That’s not a viable option for most men. There is nothing wrong with taking initiative and approaching, but you should never put in more effort than she reciprocates beyond that point. That’s when you’re throwing good money after bad money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:27 AM
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If you actually talk to women about they ex’s, nobody saying “I met this really great guy and we had great sex but he would commit and started seeing other people” They say stuff like, “we were together a year but then he cheated” That's pretty much the same thing, no? I think it's usually either the above (man refuses to 100% commit emotionally/physically) “He started getting lazy and wouldn’t pick up after himself” “He was great until he started showing his true colours when we were alone” Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 08:40 AM
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Women will go to the ends of the earth to meet Prince Charming. But the point is there aren’t enough prince charmings to go around. Completely agree, but OP was saying that women aren't desperate to marry guys. I'm saying marriage has nothing to do with it, average guys can't use anything as leverage over women; the only thing of importance is if a woman sees a guy as 'prince charming', then she will go to the ends of the earth. And otherwise, she won't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:39 PM
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Hah, sure if you’re talking about a ‘50/50’ marriage to some average dude. Then sure, that probably means more emotional labor and household chores. But women will go to the end of the earth to marry their ‘prince charming’ if they think they have a shot. And it’s not even about marriage, anyway, that’s just like you said ‘a cool party to show off’, it’s about getting the guy that is 10/10 to them. Not too many of those kind of men around, though. I hope for the men here that they understand mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:58 PM
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Controversial take: I think that women are almost equally open to casual sex as men, it's just that they deem 99% of men as not attractive enough to provide them enough value to be ok with just a casual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:25 AM
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I disagree with all those women who bash their “avoidant” exes, or start moralizing how terrible they were. If you look into those situations, in most cases a dude wasn’t that much into the woman, and she wanted more from him, got overly attached and got hurt. I would say this is true, but it's pretty much ego death to accept this for women. A lot of men online can’t get a single date for whatever reason, so they assume it’s equally hard for most men. Women see their dating history of being basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:20 AM
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There are plenty of studies that confirm that 1/4 or even as much as 1/3 of young men haven't had sex in the last year. It just doesn't fit your narrative that it's only 'online men' (although those I'm sure make up a good % of that). It's true that people with active social lives have more sex, but I also know plenty of dudes with said active social lives who are simply deemed as too unattractive to sleep with by almost all women. These aren't heinous guys, but they are below average in terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:14 AM
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All this is true: fewer births means fewer taxpayers, which supposedly puts strain on social services and causes societal issues. But that “problem” exists only because our entire economic system is built on the assumption of endless growth. That model is not sustainable. The real solution is creating an alternative economic system that doesn’t rely on perpetual population growth But you have to realize that such a transition will take time and if birthrates, as they do currently, fall sharply, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:36 AM
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Really, women don't want casual sex? Lmao Is that why there are plenty of women who go home with guys they met 30 min prior in the club for a ONS? Or that many women have 1 or more fuckbuddies? All of them are doing that against their will? Rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:40 PM
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Essentially she’s saying women don’t like hook-ups as much because there is a lack of emotional connection and women love that emotional rollercoaster. On the other hand, for men it’s mainly about sex and getting off, for women that’s just one part of a larger story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:06 PM
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I don't think most men would dispute what you said in private. The thing is, your example is maybe reality for 5% of men. Because nobody except that top group has this option. And the AF/BB applies to 10x that amount of women. That's what upsets a lot of (average) men. Yep, it's jealousy really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:03 PM
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And still a fuckton of women will go home with guys they met in the club 60 minutes earlier. Or some temporary travel buddy they met while backpacking in Oceania. It's not that you're wrong, but it's a decoy, because women will still do whatever and whomever they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:41 AM
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What I am saying is that women have different priorities, because they have different needs, different vulnerabilities, different timelines, and different bodies. So you are absolutely saying that they are pickier, but it's because they have to be pickier. And therefore it's not a privilege? I can see the logic behind that argument. However. What you’re calling “privilege” is essentially the fact that the average women have a much easier access to sexual and romantic mates than the average men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:38 AM
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when you're married it's not easy to just walk away Right, and that's the whole point why women try pressuring men into marriage. Besides having their day of grand festivities where they can show off and be in the center of attention. I know that women like security/stability because they are more anxious/neurotic on average than men. And they have a lot to lose when it comes to pregnancy without financial stability. But it stops making sense when a woman can, for whatever valid/invalid reason, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:51 PM
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All you're really saying is that women do not have it better per se because they are much pickier. Again, to be in that position of power is a privilege. A better guy could be just waiting around the corner, just waiting for the next swipe on Tinder The joke is, that most of the optionality women perceive is just virtual. Because ultimately the only thing that matters is 'Do the men that I want, want to make an exclusive long-term commitment to me?'. At which point they find out that's often not…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:09 PM
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Don't make it more complicated than it is. The kind of advice women give is always in the context of her assuming she's already attracted to the guy. Hence, the advice is always about things that are of secondary or tertiary importance. Things like how to be more emotionally available, a better communicator etc. Women don't even think for a second about men they are not attracted to. These men don't even consciously register as sexual options. The concept that such an invisible men could take xy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:47 AM
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If he bought you frivolous birthday gifts and waste money on other things with little savings you’d be here complaining about how you don’t see long-term financial security. Be a little grateful. Be glad he’s a long term thinker. Plenty of women would trade their man who never saves a dime for him in a heartbeat.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/25 01:15 PM
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Yes, unicorns are BS. But finding a high quality partner that is compatible with you in terms of values, goals, personality etc. is a rarity. Depending on how picky you are in regard to her physical appearance it’s probably a range of 1-5% of women. And most of them are already taken.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/25 01:08 PM
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They chase me, woo me, be understanding and make all those future talks and plans Good on you for figuring out at 28 that men will go to great lengths for sex. But if they all act like that lovey dovey, why are they ok with being casual hookup? Pretty much all men are like this. If you think them doing this I tell them my preference and they still have the audacity to offer me fwb or casual hook ups is deceitful or manipulative, you are naive and should be happy that you haven't dated anyone who…
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/25 08:56 AM
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Do you really think that you wanting commitment before sex is any different to a man than wanting sex before commitment is to a woman? Take a look in the mirror first before talking about becoming prejudiced. Relationships/sex are a two-way street. You both give something to get something else. The only scenario where you are going to get something without giving is when the attraction balance is very lopsided. So, a guy (realistically speaking) only commits before sex when he sees you as super …
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/25 02:13 PM
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Chad is the guy who can pull top tier girls with 0 effort/investment. They are absolutely out there, although they are not common and some are 'higher quality' Chads than others,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:01 AM
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I think you have to separate those 2 issues first, because they are unrelated. The main issue with dating older women is 1) fertility if you want children and 2) beauty. Everything is a trade-off in life but an (older) woman's biological clock can put a lot of pressure on a younger man, and it's up to you if you are ready to take that step in the next ~2 years, if not don't waste your/her time. previous to knowing me she was still fucking dudes, rich and/or really handsome dudes for the matter) …
/r/TheRedPill16/08/25 03:09 PM
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I’ll tell you mine. I love women, I love sex, I love building a connection with them on a deeper level, (emotionally) investing and encouraging them in ways to improve and to celebrate their successes. However, this doesn’t automatically mean I see you as the future mother of my children or someone I plan on spending the remainder of my life with. Even if we are very compatible in the most important ways and highly attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:46 PM
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Boyfriends but definitely 100% also the longer term situationships and the like. Basically every time a girl got her heart broken. And a lot fall deeply in love and get emotionally attached in a relatively short period.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:01 PM
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Nobody cares about a guy being noble if hes not attractive. People refer to that guy as ‘Oh, David? Yes, he’s nice.’ Those traits are of secondary or even tertiary value. And they are relatively cheap. Guy with good personality and high value traits is holy grail for women, aka unicorn. But in terms of attraction they prefer the attractive asshole over unattractive nice guy usually, especially when younger. Primary valuable traits are simply always superior over secondary, and being ‘good’ is ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:55 PM
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Another thing I've noticed is women can be worn down by persistence I've watched women get with men they weren't all that into because he was very persistent and I've had a few women tell me that's why they are dating the man they're with. This is particularly sad imo. And it's just as much on the guy as the girl. Just doesn't work that way but men want to believe that more effort = more reward. And some women enjoy it a little too much after having been treated poorly a few times in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:21 PM
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Tell me, what is an 'asshole' per your definition? Is it a guy who outright lies and secretly cheats? Or someone who is equally not as upfront about their intentions as most women and when you get to the 'what are we' stage doesn't want to commit? Someone who is just as unsure about what they want out of life and their feelings as most other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:18 PM
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they just choose to ignore them because gambling is more important to them. Perfect. It's never that we don't see red flags or have a feeling that something is wrong. It's that we choose to ignore what we see/feel because there is something more important. In the case of women, it's usually that they get addicted very fast to the great feelz some guys can provide. That's why I laugh at women who complain they were manipulated 9/10 times. Because most guys aren't good manipulators, at all. She le…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:13 PM
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Completely agree. The problem, as usual, is that there is a difference between what is best for the individual and what is best for the collective. Once one of those two is highly prioritized over the other, balance is lost and social havoc ensues. It's difficult to design systems where those two are in balance, and it means that some people will have to make personal sacrifices for others/the collective to benefit. Most people are not intelligent enough to even understand this, but when its imp…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/25 09:12 AM
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Sure they can have no strings attached sex with a better looking guy with no effort, but most don't want that. Hah. They absolutely do. Until they become emotionally attached. Then they start subtle manipulation (sounds harsh but it is what it is) to materialize that. Most of the good looking guys with atttactive personalities that want a commited relationship are already in one. Yes, this is their main problem. 90% of attractive guys who aren't in a relationship are not in a relationship becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:48 AM
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Mostly agreed with you, just wanted to nuance your point a little and provide some extra context. But you do you bud
/r/TheRedPill06/08/25 02:50 PM
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Really depends on the specific woman in question, but you're mostly right. Girls who score high on big 5 traits extraversion & openness (and lower on agreeableness and conscientiousness) are likely to also score high on sociosexuality (willingness to engage in sexual activity outside of a committed relationship.) There are absolutely girls who are afraid to meet men/go out and go work>gym>home>sleep repeat. But most girls you'll encounter dating are fucking around with attractive/fun guys. And j…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/25 04:59 PM
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Of course there is a spectrum of variability, but by definition outliers are the exception and not the median, which is what you make it out to be. People, as far as I see, then bend reality to fit those molds and models, rather than the other way around You can never create a model that accommodates for everything, but again, if you make a good one it can account for 80-90%. Again, people are very predictable if your map of reality is a good representation. If you get surprised a lot by people'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:45 PM
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How do you equal an OF subscription to a sexual relationship? A 'soft harem'? The fuck. It's not that men do not want partners that exceed their own value, it's that they cannot get them generally speaking. It's quite simple. Male hypergamy manifests differently than female hypergamy. Men don't date 'up' the social hierarchy, instead, they date across and down. When the opportunity presents itself, they will date multiple women across and down. That's the closest thing there is in terms of male …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:07 PM
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You make it seem like every person is a unique snowflake. They're not. We're all biological creatures with 99.99% the same DNA and adhere to similar incentives. We all follow predictable paths. We're creatures of habit and repetition. It's absolutely possible to construct a framework around this that predicts how people will respond to certain inputs. That is Redpill. Sure there is variability between people, but this exists on a bell curve so we can absolutely make general predictions about out…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:52 AM
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Such horseshit. There are plenty of dudes who believe they can win a chick over through sheer effort and determination. Buying her gifts, bailing her out, being her emotional tampon, compliments, etc. Also a fuckton of dudes who think their girl is 'special' and 'she's not like those other women' and hence give her pedestal treatment. Sure bud, good luck with that. The amount of people who have accurately assessed not only what the most important criteria are that women select for, but also just…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:31 AM
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Hah, I know a couple through some social circle I'm vaguely acquainted with, and the girl would never even look at the guy as a romantic interest for years, then he lost about 15kg, and suddenly he piqued her interest and a few months later they were in an LTR. People aren't talking out of their ass when they say things like confidence, charm, social skills, personality, interest etc. matter. But if you had 15 skills points you had to divide between looks & personality, the guy who put 9 into lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:25 AM
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She's always making a bargain with herself to respect and "love" the loser guy If he's actually a loser guy, and she sees him adoring her as his only qualities, then yes, your point is valid. But those relationships fall apart quickly most of the time. There are plenty of above average men who at first glance don't immediately stand out, but are actually great guys. And these guys need some time to display that because they didn't win the genetic lottery per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:42 AM
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As others have pointed out, 'good' is of secondary importance, 'attractive' being first. Therefore, the question is not 'Where are all the good men?' It's 'Where are all the attractive men who are also good? (commitment minded)' The answer to that question is that those guys are not only rare, because; 1) being attractive is rare and 2) being attractive and 'good' (commitment minded) is even rarer as there is little incentive to be commitment minded when you have women throwing themselves at you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:53 PM
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This is just such a black/white view and I think you are projecting the male experience onto women. It's more nuanced. Yes, women will rarely/never go from 'yuck' to 'fuck yes'. But they go from indifferent > let's see where this goes > this is actually a lot of fun all the time. And they can absolutely get attached more to this guy than a rando good-looking chad. But the guy needs to have good game and there must be a lot of compatibility. Once women get emotionally attached, it doesn't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:39 PM
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I get where you're coming from, but in some cases women don't care much for looks, I have friends who are literally in bottom 20% looks, overweight, and they pull above average women. These women are 100% not initially attracted, but much like Patrice O'Neal they have the ability to talk their way in. But they have a lot of compensation in other departments, highly intelligent, swagger, tall, very mature etc. Not to discredit what you're saying because 90% of the time you're right, girl goes fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:28 PM
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Entirely depends on your looks and how good (young) you still look for your age. Too many men age like shit because of bad genetics and/or a lack of proper nutrition and training.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/25 07:45 PM
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Being the 'Betabux' can take many forms. From the most extreme where a woman willy marry and divorce a guy within a few years just for $$$ to settling for someone she considers suboptimal in terms of attraction but does offer security/stability. The most common, the way I see it, is for a woman to fuck the most attractive men she can get her hands on in her early 20s. To then realize, after several times of failing to LTR such a guy and the heartbreak that ensues, that she does after all also ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:41 AM
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Dude it's like if you're used to eating simple meals, without proper seasoning, that have been over/undercooked you'll be very happy with a meal slightly exceeding what you're used to. Now, if you are served in a Michelin restaurant, you come to the conclusion you previously had no clue what actual good food was like. The chances of receiving great treatment from your partner, being very attracted to each other, having a great connection/chemistry is infinitesimally small if your dating experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:31 AM
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So basic supply and demand in combination with a lack of high expectations that applies to unexperienced (young) women basically
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:37 PM
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Good reply. I think your perspective is applicable to a lot of women who participate in casual sex, except that many maybe tend to catch feelings more easily and as a result are less picky. For most women, casual sex is just an itch to scratch and/or keep boredom away, but generally they would prefer an LTR if the guy is right. I guess that I'm much the same, except for the fact that I don't care much for security & stability, so even when I've found a girl that is a match, my craving for sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:54 PM
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Before I was in a committed relationship, I only hooked up with guys who I didn't want anything serious with ever. Just wondering how you knew this, though? It never happened that you thought this guy is just attractive but otherwise a douchebag, only to figure out after a few hookups that he was actually cute enough for LTR material? Because I think that's one thing that happens a lot. Another thing that happens is that girls just go off vibes so much that they will fall in love with guys who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 08:01 AM
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I think that women should start using their brains and have understanding of what they want and not, and check for it. The problem is it can change over time. Women want relationships, but only from a certain caliber of guy. And it can obviously take a while to figure out if a guy is what they are looking for. Especially when the guy is attractive, and they only figure out after some time of hooking up that are starting to catch feelings and only then begin looking for more. Which can be hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:49 AM
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Yo dude, hope you're still around. Came across your post using search function in TRP because I'm in a very similar situation. Also got out of a 5-year LTR at 26 where we even lived together 3 years. Girl adored me a lot, but the long-term compatibility just wasn't there in the end. Started dating around a lot afterward, at one point had 5 plates (who all wanted LTRs). I fucked up, like you said, by hiding my intentions/omitting important truths here and there. So eventually the whole thing blew…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/25 09:07 AM
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Yup, definitely among top 3 reasons. Especially when young (say until ~35) and T levels are high. Which is hard to believe for a woman since sex is so abundantly available. Similarly to how it's hard to imagine for a millionaire that many people are willing to work physically/mentally draining jobs for low wages.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/25 10:34 AM
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It's usually entertaining when a woman talks about how she was manipulated/abused (not physically) in a previous relationship. It's always the other person who was 100% at fault. If you prod for what her role in that relationship dynamic was, you get something like 'It just happened to me'. It's never well he also did xyz and I liked that shit a lot and that's why I forgave abc. Or how she was abusive herself in any way towards him. That of course is an impossibility. To me, saying you were mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:33 PM
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It's not even confidence as much as simply not caring. That's the irony of it. Women are attracted to men who don't care because not caring signals higher comparative value. And often the reason a man doesn't care is indeed because he has plentiful options. Many women's wet dream is to get a man that doesn't care to only care for them. To tame the badboy that all other women couldn't tame. To be picked by someone who could pick anyone. To receive princess treatment from an asshole who doesn't ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:20 PM
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Men (esp the ones here) have these wildly self important attitudes that enable them to believe every woman who wants to sleep with them must also be secretly in love with him. Let's add some nuance. It seems evident to me that when women pursue a guy for casual sex, they are (highly) attracted to him. Usually looks-wise and probably like his vibe/personality as well. When people have sex, they start to bond. Just how your biology/brain juice functions. Now, especially when the sex is good and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:14 PM
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Hmm, they can discern they just want to believe what they want to believe. On some level they know, they just unapologetically, unashamedly and without regret take the risk over and over again while they are still young. Btw, it's not even that these 'players' are fundamentally opposed to commitment, it's that in a capitalistic style dating market there is so much demand for attractive guys and such an oversupply of women who throw themselves at them, that there's no upside to giving commitment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:32 PM
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Ah I understand what you're getting at now and thx for replying. Well, I think TRP is correct in that women choose whom they have intercourse with and whom not. Men do the choosing when it comes to relationships, there they hold all the leverage. But they all want the best guys. They all want the same guys. Agree. To me, the conclusion I drew (which was what the post was about) is that if you hadn't shown up when you did, she would have picked another dude. That's why I said you're not special. …
/r/TheRedPill16/07/25 11:00 AM
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The genetics have to be there in terms of cognitive ability & face card. In regard to money, most women that a guy making good money would want care little for it. It's definitely a plus but doesn't completely compensate for a lack of good looks or charm. I agree about your ceiling point, though. Most men will never be 9s and probably not even 8s no matter how much work they put in. But many can be a 7 and that will get your foot in the door with enough (average) women. Your dating life won't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:20 AM
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Getting to sex is the challenge for men. Getting in a relationship is the challenge for women. To put it another way, I've never met a man who was sleeping with 5 different women who asked for pity because none of those women wanted a relationship. Usually, along the lines of, fuck... all 5 of these girls want commitment from me. When men complain about women, it's almost always some variation of 'I can't get them into bed with me'. Similarly, I've never heard a woman complain about being unable…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:19 PM
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Men who learn game, spin plates, or refuse to commit? Shamed as predators or losers. Not true in my experience. But you will get labelled as "asshole" for leading women on, even when you make it clear you don't want an LTR. Because you are denying them what they want, so you must be a selfish dickhead. The problem is, your game as a man is at its best when you are outcome independent, just having fun and appreciating them for who they are at that moment. Women gulp that shit up because it gives …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:04 PM
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Competence, while it is often overlooked in favor of its sexy cousin, Confidence, absolutely SLAYS. This has always annoyed me about most women. And also men. Too many men with that loud mouth type of confidence, but without any competence to back it up. And too many women who cannot tell the difference between the two, giving their youth to men who eventually amount to nothing. Truth is, confidence without competence generates far more tingles than the other way around. Competence is 90% for yo…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/25 08:16 AM
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I see how you could interpret my post as saying that your 'specialness' is derived from your woman. But that's not what I meant, and I agree wholly with this You're not special because you associate with a given woman. They get to feel special to be with you, not the other way around. You gotta be elite. What I meant is that even though you might be unique, based on a (combination of) number of metrics, that your woman would be with someone else (presumably less unique) if you hadn't come along …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/25 07:38 AM
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You're yapping quite a lot in this thread. Nobody is talking about forced monogamy and assigning mates for life. What people are pointing out, albeit in an unintelligent and coarse way, is that when people, like yourself, only seek to maximize self-benefit ("freedom") and avoid any form of long-term responsibilities/commitments/obligations, that you cannot have a functioning society in the long run. What is optimal for any given individual is always at odds with what is optimal for the group. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:35 AM
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She can could and will might take that opportunity. She is fiercely loyal…. to herself her emotions. FTFY You have a choice with women… you can love them… or you can understand them… but you can not do both. Choose wisely. I agree with this but would say that you can understand and love them... just not love them in the way you first start to naively love them in.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/25 08:13 AM
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The only realistic solution to this is for yourself: Become a top tier man. Dating hierarchy is like this: Top-tier men (5%) > High quality women (30%) > Above average men (15%) > Regular women (70%) > Regular men (80%). If you think men have it bad or the dating market sucks, it's because you're in the 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:06 AM
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People admit to this kind of shit in (couple) counseling? Damn. Like how do you even reconcile this sort of thing for them, tell them to try and forget it and focus on the good qualities of her current man? Still thinking about the guy who fucked her the best even after years of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:37 AM
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Can you give a general example that you see a lot during sessions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:22 PM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks just means that hot guys can get away with treating girls like shit and still have them hand over easy sexual access, while beta bux means that a less attractive guy has to put in 10x effort and commitment for sexual access. Its as simple as person A gets product X for free immediately while person B has to wait in line and pay $10. And men who realize they are person B are generally speaking not very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:20 PM
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Both select on superficial traits for short-term sexual interaction. But in my experience, it's more often women that also select for long-term relationships based on superficial traits than men. Men who are attractive enough to get a multitude of women for short-term sexual interaction are much pickier when it comes to non-superficial traits for selecting a long-term partner. It's been my view for some time that women, on the other hand, struggle with that much more and will chase attractive gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:57 AM
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Yep completely true. Sad state of affairs, really, when you realize that's all there is to it sometimes, especially for women, who are supposed to be the pickier of the sexes, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:47 PM
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Authentically attractive You think 'authentic' is real. That's so cute and BP. Like trying to separate real confidence from fake confidence. I've met plenty of people who were absolutely incompetent but still very confident in their own incompetence. Especially younger guys are great at this. A lot of women still just look at that surface layer, and that's why it can work wonders for those guys. Last, the guy 'she just wants', didn't appear into existence out of nothing. He was created. Part bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:41 PM
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I know multiple (below) average looking men who do just fine with ladies. Some of whom I also consider losers and don't want to be around because they're so fkn beta (for lack of a better term to get the point across fast). The thing is, as long as you own who you are and are fun to be around, even if you are a rough looking dipshit, some girls are going to vibe with that and give pussy. And the moment you see these guys having success, you toss the blackpill immediately, not because it's entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:26 PM
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I think there’s certainly validity to your point(s). And the way I see it, a lot of women do this/attempt this. But what I think ends up happening a lot of the time, is that they don't have the skill to pull it off. What you are essentially proposing is manipulating top tier men. And the thing is, those are the hardest to manipulate. Not only because they're more intelligent than other men; they've been with all kinds of women and seen all kinds of manipulation wielded by women. And even in the …
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/25 08:51 PM
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The criticisms you described in your post are just held by pessimistic unreasonable people imo. The questions I always ask myself are am I ok leaving family/friends behind? Because it's inevitable that you drift apart when you start a family overseas. As someone who especially finds family very important, that makes it a hard choice. Furthermore, it's still not a first world country. Yes, first world countries have problems, in some areas more than others. But they also have the most advanced he…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/25 07:24 PM
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I mean, sure, she doesn't get the same privileges and treatment as a younger woman without children. She's not entitled to your money, time or commitment. Which goes for any woman, btw. But to treat people poorly just because you can... It's sad if that is all there is to life/relationships.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/25 09:19 PM
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Great comment. Too bad most women will still cut slack to guys they find 'hawt' for behaving like assholes. And the moment a guy who they are iffy about does something 'wrong', he's gone. I think the main difference and reason that TRP flame guys who go for crazy/loser chicks is because those guys also could've picked actual good women. Because a guy who can get a pretty girl that's also crazy, can get a pretty girl that's sane. But for women, it's different. A woman won't be flamed as much for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:12 PM
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Right. Dad bod is a guy who works out but instead of 10% BF he's 18%...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:54 AM
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Telling a young, high testosterone man that women are not that important, and that he should aim his focus elsewhere, is like telling someone in the desert dying of thirst that there's more to life than just water. You're not wrong, but it's pointless because humans have a hierarchy of needs, and especially for young men, sex/affection feel extremely vital. If a man thought some other thing would bring him the same things that he gets out of sex/affection, he would be doing just that and disrega…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:38 AM
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Yellow flags are very personal. There are more than a few men who would consider a woman who indulges in fancy dinners as a yellow flag. Like you mention, in the end it’s all about trade offs and being able or unable to live with those.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/25 03:27 PM
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Well, there is a reality where a particular man feels less than a competent woman. And he will act insecure. The flip side is, I think, that there is also a growing cohort of "competent" women who attempt to call men, who don't treat them how they want, insecure/intimidated, but in reality those men are just put off by a lack of femininity on her side, and it has nothing to do with her competence. There is a group of ambitious, career-driven women who get so competitive and focused on excellence…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:53 PM
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I've had girlfriends of mine who would try to help some guy friends/family members of mine. But yeah, some random woman who doesn't care about you won't lift a finger to help. The hilarious thing is that women suck at explaining/teaching how to build attraction. They usually can only teach a man to be sweeter. But that only matters after attraction has been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:38 PM
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It's all about balance. You can't go overboard on being too aggressive/dominant and taking too much initiative without building some comfort first, versus being too passive, a push-over and never taking the lead while only building comfort. Good game is the ability to create attraction and some form of comfort simultaneously. Push-Pull. Depending on the woman and situation you might need one more than the other. But it's never either, and people think too much in terms of absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:35 PM
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take into accountability how excellent some men are at leading women on just to get laid. To me, this is always hilarious. Also when women say some 'fuckboi' manipulated/gaslit her. Like, what did you think he was offering you? What could he be selling you, except for a good time? Like, what did you expect lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:51 PM
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This is pretty much true. In the end, everyone acts in their self-interest because that's how organisms and its off-spring thrive. If you want confirmation of what you say, just look at the men at the top of the dominance hierarchy, who have all the optionality in the world. Sure, some choose one wife and are loyal to her, but there are lots who act like kids in the candy store, and explore all the optionality they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:39 PM
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I disagree that looks are subjective, there is extensive research about people being able to objectively assess attractiveness. But thats pictures or a first glance. Where personality, mannerisms etc don’t play a role. Not real life. What I think plays a big role, is that for a lot of men, how a woman looks has a diminishing rate of return. In other words if a man views a woman as attractively enough to get him going sexually, at that point he starts caring more about other traits and compatabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 12:31 PM
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Lol, sure if we're talking about casual hook-ups. If we're talking about long-term commitment, especially from an above-average man, then no. That is scarce asf. And it's women who get these 2 things twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:44 AM
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Capitalistic dating market. Large group of women chasing small group of top tier men. Top tier men have multiple casual relationships/rotations simultaneously. Many women end up heartbroken. Lots of non-top tier men who don't have any access to women. > Lots of unsatisfied people but no individual/gender to blame; it's all a feature of the system we've collectively endorsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:41 AM
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The hilarious part is that these women don’t think they are full of shit. They all go after the same top tier men. Of which there are far fewer than them, and a lot of them don’t want to commit to a single girl. So these girls get passed around and discarded. There’s plenty of men that would be willing to commit, but they don’t want those. So in a sense, it’s like having a ton of money but you still can’t buy what you really want. It makes sense that a poor person would despise someone rich who …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:50 AM
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Redpillers aren't shamed for being hypocrites (I agree that they are btw) Hmm I would say that they are hypocrites if you assume that men and women are not biologically different. they are shamed for daring to imply that women choose partners based on shallow characteristics and not based on virtue. Right, but anyone with a working brain can see that women (and men also) first go for shallow and only look for virtue secondarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:03 AM
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Ding ding ding. Right answer. Because beside his physique he's just an average looking guy and the shredded look seems super try-hard. If we take a male model with a strong jaw and a lean, tanned physique, women would prefer that over him with a dad bod. Although I will say that 10-12% BF is probably the sweet spot, this guy is around 8 I'd say which is too lean. But the before pic is probably like 18% BF which is a bit much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:17 AM
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Hmmm it's true that these kind of girls will usually look for someone like-minded. But that doesn't mean you have to be a millionaire already. Actually, I think it's more important that you maximize your looks, confidence & dominance. Also, there are exceptions. I know ambitious, good-looking girls who are with total bums (meaning ugly & poor). Just out of total convenience. (Meaning: these guys won't leave them/cheat.) Because the problem is that, and these girls are very familiar with this pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:10 AM
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Yeah that's what I'm saying. I mean direct approach by rando chick. Never happens unless you're a 9 or 10 in terms of looks. Rando chick can't gauge your social value. Exception if you are already surrounded by beautiful girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:03 AM
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that is never EVER going to happen regularly unless you're literally just a Greek god and there's alcohol involved. This is pretty much the right answer. Women are not going to risk any form of overt rejection for some scrub, he has to be attractive in relative terms to her and also in absolute terms. But they will do it if you're attractive enough, and they are drunk+horny. Not an experience the average guy will ever have, and I've had multiple friends/acquaintances have reality checks when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:08 PM
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RP = seeing reality for what it is. In terms of dating, it means understanding what men/women are after in relationships and what makes one attractive to the other gender & in order to get what they want. So saying you're a RP dating strategy victim doesn't mean much. You were manipulated, I'd say, but of course I don't know anything about what happened.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/25 04:35 PM
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1) These 2 examples are not comparable in the slightest, one involves active deception in a committed, long-term relationship, that pertains to a woman's limited fertility window, the other is a guy who creates a fantasy of a girl being romantically interested in him because he has little dating experience and she, maybe, leads him on. 2) Women are more socialized to look out for it, because they are seen as the weaker sex + they have a fertility window. Any man can learn to start avoiding these…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:41 PM
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Btw, I think it's bullshit when 'RP' men say they don't care about how much their woman makes etc. These are men who already have children, don't want them and/or often are not looking for a long term, monogamous relationship. As an intelligent man, I like intelligent women, or better said: I can't stand dumb women. Not even if they look fantastic and are sweet/feminine, at least not as a partner long-term. For short-term fun, yes. Nor do I want my partner to be uneducated or lazy. Not saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:31 PM
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Because a lot of women love taking the moral high ground and believing they are somehow less shallow than other people/women. And actually create competition about this. The way I see it, unless you dated, for an extended amount of time, a man who was as tall or shorter than you, or a man who was below average in penis size, you don’t get to say you don’t care and that it isn’t important. Much like a rich person should stfu when they say money isn’t important. The thing is, digitally nobody can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:23 AM
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Being friendzoned as a guy is the same as being plated as a girl. Some men think that the way to win over a girls’ heart is through friendship and emotional connection. Some women think that the way to win over a mans’ heart is through sex. Just like (naive) women don’t understand that these men are romantically interested in them despite telling them they see them just as friends, (naive) men don’t understand that even after telling the girl that they don’t want a relationship, the other sex ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:14 AM
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Hmmm I think there’s a big difference between a man who lacks stoicism and social skill in regard to women vs showing vulnerability. Weak has nothing to do with vulnerability tbh. I can understand why she would get the ick if her current man handles certain situations more poorly than the other guy. Then again, he didn’t want to commit so it’s like comparing a Ferrari you couldn’t afford to the Honda you can afford if you wanna be really crude about it.
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/25 08:47 PM
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I would say that by believing it to be true you create a self fulfilling prophecy because of a lack of confidence, which repels women. A guy who is completely unbothered being short + has an abundance of confidence, is unscathed by his shortness. However, unless you are delusional, there is no way a person can be very confident about themselves without excelling in some area.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/25 01:49 PM
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Charlie Munger once said “Never underestimate the man who overestimates himself, because every once in a while, they knock it out of the park.”
/r/TheRedPill17/04/25 01:27 PM
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I think that the correct take is that height matters a lot and is valuable for the average, bland guy who has never for a long period of time focused on self improvement. Yes, all else equal women prefer tall over short. It’s your job to make sure all else is not equal. To hit the gym, get a haircut that suits your face, wear nice well-fitting clothes, become confident, assertive, dominant. Develop your game and social skills etc. As others have pointed out, a short guy can absolutely outcompete…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/25 01:25 PM
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Female imperative. The core idea is that society, consciously or unconsciously, is structured to prioritize and protect the needs, survival, and reproductive success of women above those of men. From the "female imperative" perspective, these seemingly contradictory judgments against men (shamed for failure and for non-committal success) aren't contradictory at all. They are seen as different facets of the same underlying drive: ensuring women secure the best possible long-term reproductive outc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:44 AM
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TRP has said from Day #1 to go lift. Also, plenty of threads on how to dress, groom, which haircuts to get and even fragrances. It's always been the PUA guys who downplay the looks aspect because they can't earn money off that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:56 PM
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I think it's more nuanced than that, and both women and men play very much a role in this dynamic. A lot of 'boss babes' are not that successful, but like playing the part. And try hiding their shitty personality behind that spiel. I think there is a group of (successful) men who are fed up with that type. There is 100% truth in the fact that a lot of men become insecure when their woman earns more. The better question is, to what degree is that based on internal insecurity and projection and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:15 AM
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Yes, so if no one is willing to pay that price they're effectively off the market. Tomato Tomato.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:32 AM
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For example: if the price of gas becomes $50 a gallon, people will think something is wrong and want to talk about it It depends. If there is no underlying fundamental that has changed; it would be weird. But if there is something that's suddenly caused a sharp decrease in available oil supply, it could be logical. Although, it would make sense that over the long-term the price reverts back to some moving average. My point is, price is price. And just like price can fluctuate, 'value' in the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:26 PM
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I dint think its true that it’s likely to get worse but if someone is like this at 40 still, it is very likely to not get any better. The negative health effects do absolutely get worse with age.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/25 05:53 AM
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Keep moving things forward gradually toward commitment. Not too fast, not too slow. One makes you seem uninterested, the other unhinged/desperate. I guess... is there a way of knowing whether you've passed the test or if now the guy is just dreading your presence/done with you? Short term, no. Data points will only manifest over a period of a few months. Unless he's very direct/dumb. Invite him to somewhere you're going with friends at some point. Buy him something small or do a thoughtful gestu…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/25 10:11 AM
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Hypergamy is just a universal, biological drive. The premise is that a woman will always go after the highest value mate she (believes she) can land. The only difference, I would say, between women from poor/rich countries is that women from poor countries are less picky and put up with more abuse just because they are much more reliant on men for survival. The more economically self-reliant women become, the less a man's economic situation matters, however, the more , relatively speaking, other…
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/25 10:40 AM
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Confidence only works in combination with other attributes. Otherwise, you just come off socially uncalibrated and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:24 PM
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Probably related to your age somewhat, but it’s possible you care less about those attributes than other women. Some women don’t care about height. And I know a few pretty women who are with below average looking guys. Also have met more than a few young women with good education/career who say they don’t care about a man his income. They cared, like you, much more about looks. Exceptions to every rule.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/25 05:10 PM
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It’s easy to answer in the abstract when there are no emotions involved and no practical complications which will completely overhaul your life from one day to the next. 80% will insist they would leave and 20% would stay. In reality its probably the other way around.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/25 02:59 PM
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Define successful with women. I only said 1% is maybe suitable for RPW as a husband.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/25 02:20 PM
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First off, understand that 95+% of men who find TRP are men who have been destroyed in a LTR or are sexually very unsuccessful/unsatisfied/bitter in one way or another. Those few who, through hard work over a vast amount of time, manage to become attractive and successful with women, will 9/10 times not be willing to commit to 1 woman because of the hard work they have put in , but also because they understand and are very familiar with the potential downsides associated not only with marriage, …
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/25 01:39 PM
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Even if your face is not that conventionally attractive - a toned body goes a long way. Especially because the competition is so weak, as most people are lazy and don't work out + eat junk food. If you play your cards right, and this is a very important card, you will be able to get LTRs with men that would otherwise be out of your league.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/25 05:06 PM
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You’re oversimplifying. Again, how valuable status is depends on the context. And it can be incredibly valuable. If you’re the most popular guy in a friend group or a social event or at work or wherever, you will do better with the ladies than guys who are better looking. You can use status to create an aura around you, that will make you look a lot more attractive than you objectively are. And women flock to that. It’s just that very often your status in environment A does not translate to envi…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/25 10:52 PM
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I think the misconception is not that you no longer find any men attractive - but fewer than before. Women are more selective than men by definition but perhaps even more so when they already have a partner?
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/25 01:35 PM
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Some guys work their ass off for years to get careers in high stress environments. Because they believe status and money attract women. It does, but for the most part only in that work environment. That type of status is super context dependent and doesn’t translate well to other areas. If you want to be more attractive to more women, focus on your physique/looks and becoming confident/dominant. That shit will translate to so much more access to women for only a shred of the effort.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/25 08:11 AM
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I think this is quite a common challenge to a degree, although it manifests in different women's lives differently. The holy grail for a lot of women is a man who is dominant, Stoic and strictly enforces boundaries. But at the same time adores you very much and once in a while lifts a part of the veil and show some emotion/vulnerability. A man who has the ability to be aggressive and manipulative, but has it under control and doesn't use it against their partner. At least, rarely. The thing is, …
/r/RedPillWomen15/01/25 12:12 PM
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Now, if you are an attractive woman, you certainly can live life on easy mode - many attractive women think the world is a wonderful place...after all everyone is nice to them, wants to impress them and give them free stuff, and have sex with them. That last one has a double edge - they will have optionality with men they LIKE but also with men they do not. (Attractive) women have pretty much unlimited sexual optionality. The challenge for them is often differentiating between men that like them…
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/25 10:41 AM
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The main difference is that a man's challenge lies in becoming valuable, which inherently has a very competitive aspect to it, while a woman's challenge lies in maintaining her value. I'd say that one of the main challenges for women today is that they are often not aware of this fact. And their ignorance creates additional challenges where it isn't necessary. This applies especially to good-looking women btw. As u/VasiliyZaitzev points out: If you are an unattractive woman, much like being a ma…
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/25 10:35 AM
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It was easier to have this conversation given that I was truly fine with her leaving if she didn’t like it, since I hadn’t known her too long. I’d imagine it would’ve been more difficult had I waited until down the line to share that with her. Hah. This is where I went wrong. I don't like my girl going out drinking with her girlfriends without me and going home late. But didn't address it soon enough. So I get the 'that's controlling' thrown at me now. Especially because I was too much of a puss…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/24 08:45 AM
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G shit. Just a question; what are those expectations for you?
/r/TheRedPill29/12/24 09:03 AM
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If you're looking for a way to avoid possible hurt or abandonment; it doesn't exist. In regard to vetting: you can never be 100% sure. A guy that figures out by month 2 you want to wait until 4 might just find it worth it and still walk after. Focus on finding someone who makes you happy and your presence makes them happy and then give it a shot if you find your values align enough. Having these overly strict and rigid rules is not only going to filter out people who are bad for you but also ple…
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/24 07:22 AM
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Sure. All I said was that the fantasy of that lifestyle and being in proximity to it is already enticing to women. Not just direct access.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:49 AM
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Right. Most people marry their 'equal' in terms of value. Doesn't mean they prioritize the same things in their partner, and hence are probably not the same people, apart from gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:45 PM
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I'm 3rd Gen rich. 28yo. Family wealth is enough to last at least another 3 generations. I go 50/50 or 60/40 in terms of expenses with girls I date. Girls who come from upper middle class families but nowhere near as rich as me. They say they do not care at all for my money. And I believe them up to a point. Yet they are not dating delivery men. They're not out for a quick buck like I said. But trust me they love telling their girlfriends I'm rich and the social status that's associated with it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:05 AM
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You should know something. Flashnews : Most of women's bodycount are based on sexual unsatisfaction, frustration, heartbreaks, ghosting, regrets, pumps and dumps, resentment against men, situationships, failed relationships and mental health issues. You can easily see her bodycount through her actions.The real reason of cheating and divorce is how much sexually unsatisfied she is. You need to be the best fuck of her life. The number 1, the only one who can makes her cum like crazy. And the bar i…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/24 09:53 AM
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So what would you say is the cause? That pair bonding is just naturally weaker in these women? A friend of mine worded it differently. He said something along the lines of 'Women sleep with men they find attractive'. Hence, women who sleep with more men just have a wider range of what they consider attractive. However, I also think that it's important to take into consideration the willingness to act on being attracted. The effects of upbringing and personality play a large role. Especially girl…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/24 09:41 AM
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Money is only going to make a difference if you can boost her standard of living by a level. Assuming she makes average money, you'll need to make at least 5x that. Also explains why the bar is lower if you go abroad. Even then it won't make you any sexier or her more attracted to you (unless you use your $ to looksmaxx which is smart). The things that make panties wet are looks and swagger, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:59 PM
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OLD is great for women who want to use OLD the way most men do; for casual hookups. Truth is, most don't do this (for long). It's meaningless and unfulfilling to most of them because it's so easy. They really want actual affection from a top tier man, and they will (temporarily) settle for just physical affection as a substitute if that's all they can get. The thing is, they eventually get attached to a man who doesn't want to commit if they go down the casual route, and they get heartbroken in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:00 PM
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All l see in this post are demands. He can't do X. He must do Y. Now I don't know you or your fiance. I'm sure you're a lovely lady and he's an awesome guy. But if I'm being honest, and relying on my own experience, I think that the amount of high quality men who have any degree of optionality that will go for a mid 30s woman with healthy issues is close to 0. Not trying to invalidate your experience, just saying that none of this to me seems like something someone should expect or think of as n…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/24 10:44 AM
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How is a guy who doesn't have his life together an alpha anything? It's not just the mindset. It's the overall life, not just one aspect of attitude or perception. Hard disagree. The mindset is actually everything. External factors do not make an alpha, they can merely be seen as correlation, but it's never 1:1. Alpha is simple; they're people who do not follow others.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/24 04:59 PM
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It doesn't work, the issue is that withholding sex means you don't even get a chance. And a lot of young women don't know other ways to retain a man.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/24 04:45 PM
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You can assume that pretty much any 27yo girl who is decently attractive and has large 'gaps' in her relationship history has had casual Chad cock. Women who are attractive enough to get Chad's attention will try locking him down with sex. It's that simple 99/100 times.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/24 01:03 PM
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True, it depends on the time line a lot. If it was clear from moment 1 it was dating for marriage, and only now this comes up, it's a bait and switch. However, in my experience, it's usually the girl who pulls a bait and switch by initially framing the relationship as casual and after a few months frame it as serious and exclusive. In which case he's totally justified but it's weird in that case as they're already engaged.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 02:52 PM
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When you truly understand what is discussed in this post, you automatically understand why many men find it instinctually unacceptable and repulsive for their woman to out on girl trips to party cities, get drunk or go clubbing without their man, go to social gatherings with lots of bachelors, wear revealing clothing etc. Because that is behavior that signals 'open to/looking for an upgrade'. A woman who believes she has found the best man she'll ever find won't entertain the above behavior. Esp…
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 01:50 PM
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Your exes are exes for a reason so don't play comparative games between them and your fiance. The way I see it, it only makes sense for a fiancé (therefore soon to be husband) to be more strict and demand more from a woman than a boyfriend would. Seeing that, he is going to make a commitment an order of magnitude larger than any of those boyfriends ever did (and didn't care about her behavior nearly as much). There are women with partners that don't care at all and that is between them and their…
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/24 11:00 PM
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No point in arguing this kind of stuff in that manner. Nothing is inherently 'disgraceful' it's just a label people attach to certain things based on culture, experience, preference. If he feels this way, he feels this way. Another person arguing it's not justified for him to feel that way is senseless. A single person can do as they wish. Relationships however have boundaries and compromise. It's up to the people into that relationship to decide if those boundaries and compromises are tolerable…
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/24 02:25 PM
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Tbh it doesn't seem realistic at all because she doesn't even want kids. Obviously this man is not it, but it's going to be hard to find one in general that will support the kind of life OP wants.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/24 12:16 AM
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If she's playing hard to get just for the purpose of not coming off as 'easy' it's a bad sign imo. Because that means she actually is easy, and doesn't know how to vet men properly. The most desirable situation is one where a woman wants to sleep with you on date 1 but has the ability to restrain herself until date 3 because she wants a better understanding of your motives with her (possible commitment or pump&dump), as well as get to know you on a deeper level to see if you two could be a susta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:42 AM
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Golden comment. When they say 'why can't I find someone like you' = more attractive version of you who will also commit & be sweet to her. The highest thing a woman desires is a 'husband material' type of guy. He just has to be attractive first, though. That combination is the holy grail. It's just that those guys are rare and it's even more rare to get them to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:32 AM
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This. When a girl says husband material, you should know if she means her prince charming or the guy who is 'good enough'. If you're in doubt, you're the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:23 AM
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Being husband material is only a compliment in the context that you are a Chad in her eyes that is also willing to share an emotional connection with her, show affection, be sweet and commit. It's when she wanted to have sex asap at first, and later figures out you're a great guy all around, because not only are you physically attractive, you're intelligent, ambitious, funny and a great guy in many aspects. It's an insult when she had sex with Chad on date 1 and made you wait a month and jump th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:57 AM
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Didn't say u have to be Chad. What I'm talking about is unequal value exchange, and people, men/women find that disgusting. Female version of this is having nice guy orbiters. Men who freely offering to do XYZ for a woman, giving her compliments, money, attention etc for nothing in return. Well, what he gets in return is the fantasy of being with her at some future point, which will never materialize. Male equivalent is men trying to desperately build rapport with you to get access to your netwo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:11 AM
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All female dating advice is valid so long as you remember that 'If I already find him attractive' is in the fine print.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:30 PM
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A simp befriending a woman to get in her pants is equivalent to a guy befriending a rich guy just to leech money. If you don't understand why people get angry when others are befriending them in a phoney way, you've never had enough value to be befriended by a phoney unfortunately and don't know how aids it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:36 PM
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Because most women cannot get a guy that is universally considered attractive (facially) to commit. So they make trade offs. A guy might not be good-looking but she might find he has XYZ traits that compensate enough in her eyes and meet some minimum threshold of overall attractiveness to be satisfied on some level with him. If everything was looks, 90% of men would not get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:30 PM
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My anger towards many of those snake oil guys is that they try to make this stuff seem more complex than it actually is, and that you can influence certain factors more than you actually can. Just so they can sell you their stupid course. To me, RP is simple common sense. A few hours of studying the right material and applying it, then repeating that process many times is all you need. Doesn't have to cost any $$. Unfortunately the truth may be that there are so many stupid, lazy, gullible peopl…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/24 02:52 PM
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Yeah I see your point. Still don't think they're blue pill, but they probably never needed to apply dread as their smv was all the dread they needed. Until they got married and they needed another type of dread they hadn't developed. Good reminder that no matter which level you're at, always dot all your i's.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/24 11:50 PM
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If you treat girls well, don't significantly compromise their feelz and you have high SMV, good game + lay good pipe, many of them will keep boomeranging. Also gets you to the realization that most men are actually so mediocre that these girls would rather consciously share someone like you than have an inferior version all for themselves. Ego death moment for them is the realization they can't get someone on your level to commit. Otherwise they wouldn't keep coming back.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/24 10:16 PM
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If a really good-looking girl has had multiple fiancées by 32 and still unmarried she obviously has some major issues due to trauma/bad parenting
/r/TheRedPill15/08/24 10:02 PM
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I find it hard to believe all these guys had to offer was a pretty face, status & $$ but no game. Any guy I know in real life who has these things is not a BP beta. Cus these are guys that have been popular since childhood among girls and know their way around them. 'Naturals'. Guys who only have $$ to offer are a different story, but most examples given here don't fall into that category. Then again probably my close circle isn't representative as I've ditched anyone I think as of low value or …
/r/TheRedPill15/08/24 08:40 PM
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You really believe they were BP betas? With the amount of status they have and the shit these guys have seen women do on a daily basis? Hell nah. At most they got complacent after committing and stopped gaming their wife properly and no longer giving her the crack feelz she craves. That's where they tripped up. Something as minor as that compared to everything they did give them. Women.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/24 06:30 PM
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You can be full RP. You just can't be 100% AF all the time. But that's not remotely the same thing.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/24 03:50 PM
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Exactly. When done properly, it's not a mask, and you don't feel like you're playing games, instead it's as effortless as breathing.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/24 03:47 PM
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Why would you “seduce” or use ways to understand female nature. To get them to do what you want. Then you and him have misunderstood TRP. TRP was never about getting what some part of you desires at the cost of your authenticity and personal freedom. If you get entangled in a mess similar to OP, it's because you were confused about your own priorities and values. You can have money, women etc and still be in complete self-alignment, you just have to become very skilled at being yourself, at whic…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/24 03:44 PM
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Fair enough, except that I don't think I'm talking about the exception to the rule here, although I was exaggerating. In my experience, girls who have low/non-existent sexual experience (who are 21+) most of the time suffer from some kind of underlying psychological trauma and are too self-conscious and insecure. Psychologically 'healthy' girls will usually have racked up some kind of body count & sexual experience, and know how to fuck to some degree. Had a boyfriend and some kind of situations…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/24 06:27 AM
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High body count can be an indicator of undesirable behavior. It's short sighted and dumb to believe high body count women are trash per se. (Unless we're talking top 95th percentile for her age, which is a very strong indicator of deeper trauma). Low body count doesn't guarantee that these undesirable behaviors are absent. Rather, low body count can imply underlying issues as well. Look at her behavior and other relationships. If she seems like a perfectly psychologically healthy girl with funct…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/24 10:00 PM
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Lmfao such a Black and white clueless perspective. When was the last time you were with a shy, unconfident 21 yo virgin who dealt with SA as a kid? Someone who repressed her sexuality all throughout her early adulthood? These girls can take months becoming sexually comfortable, and it will take you as much as a year before you get enthusiastic, good sex where she's comfortable not only taking some initiative but also having loud orgasms. But you wouldn't know if you've never been with a girl lik…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/24 09:29 PM
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Gold digger has such a negative connotation because it refers to women who only like men for their money, and for them, it's their #1 priority, above everything else. There's a vast difference between that and someone who wants a financially stable partner. I like to know that my man has my back and I can rely on him and he is happy to support me financially if I ever needed the help. This is fine as long as you have your shit together yourself, or demonstrate similar commitment in another area …
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/24 09:44 AM
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Can you even read? What they want is non-virgin wives or gfs when they aren’t virgins themselves. Can you even think? As if the sheiks who had multiple (virgin) women were virgins themselves. These guys just try to do a modern version of that. If you find that backwards, that's fine. My comparison isn’t putting sneakers against Ar 15, and thanks for admitting that your comparison is as bad as putting apples against oranges. Again, comparing female chastity to male wealth is similar because both …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 05:19 PM
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Is it entitled for a short woman to want a tall man? For an average earning woman to want a rich man? For a bland looking woman to want a good-looking man? We look for things in partners that complement us, right? Why is it entitlement to have a preference for X in a woman, which you might lack yourself and bring Y to the table, which she lacks but prefers nonetheless. Why do 2 people have to bring the same things to the table, or else it's entitled? It's only entitled if you have large demands …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 09:57 AM
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It’s the very actions of these men which create “problems” that they want to avoid. What they want is the modern equivalent of what powerful, influential men did centuries ago; multiple wives, it's not that far-fetched. Sure, it's hypocritical from one perspective. Your argument is so absurd, because according to your logic, it’s odd to judge someone holding homophobic views since just 50 years ago, it was considered a mental illness. It’s odd to judge someone supporting slavery and racism, beca…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 09:39 AM
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Lol. I've heard women say this in real life as well, but rarely have I found that one of those women had a short broke boyfriend. Easy to say you don't care about xyz criteria when the men you date all meet xyz criteria. Like a rich person saying they don't care about money after they've got all their basic needs already met, lol.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 06:37 AM
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I'll agree because you specifically mentioned virgin hunting, which I think is obsessive behavior, and I've never met one person who thinks like this in real life. If your argument was along the lines of 'It's hypocritical that high body count men want below average body count women' I would've said that it's hypocritical to a degree but justifiable. So, the value of virginity diminished, but men and women still hold certain traditional preferences. This is the main issue with non-virgin western…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 06:32 AM
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Sure it's a double standard, but it's also a double standard that women with average income want 6 figure men, or that small women want tall men, fat women want in-shape men etc. Why tf is it hypocritical to want something that you might lack yourself? It's just called a preference. Why is this particular preference so hard to accept for so many women, I wonder, though? Because it's something you can't change anymore?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 06:59 PM
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I agree completely that it's most beneficial to lie from the strategic perspective of acquiring the best partner in the shortest time span. However, you'll always know you lied if things eventually become exclusive and have to live with that. Depends on who you are if you can do that. Also I think people respect others less for having to tell lies to 'save their feelings'. Guys hate being #2 and will resent you for this if they ever find out and a decent chance they leave you. I think women are …
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/24 10:33 AM
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If trying to compete for a top 5% is too stressful, a Chad is not for you, much less a financially well off Chad. You will have to check your hypergamy at the door and realize there is a breaking point to the stress of trying to lock down a man with a ton of value and a ton of options of his own. I'd say that everything a woman needs to lock down a top 5% man is good genes (beauty, fertility, intelligence), The 5 F's & the 3 Don'ts you described above. So depending on your genetics, there is a t…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/24 08:00 AM
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At this point, I realized that there was a much bigger problem at hand: I didn’t care about her – I cared about how she made me feel. I wasn’t upset at her for ghosting me, but, rather, I was furious that she provided me with feelings I was seeking and abruptly took them away. One of the darkest realizations I've had in my life was the realization that, after having broken up with my ex, what I loved most about her was how much she loved me and made me feel like a king. She was a cool girl, but …
/r/TheRedPill19/05/24 12:24 PM
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I think you should dig deeper into what the underlying issue is. From what you describe here, it doesn't seem apparent to me that you've dug beyond just a surface feeling level, which is strange for having been a whole year in therapy. If you can't pinpoint the exact cause of the feelings and subsequent self-sabotage, there's little hope that the issue can be resolved.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/24 12:20 PM
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Not advice for OP, but for all the ladies who contemplate going down the road of no sex before marriage: No/bad sex is a substantial risk you face. One subset of the men who are ok with waiting until marriage, are going to be guys with low libido and another subset is guys who do have high libido and have/develop porn addictions to cope.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/24 12:19 PM
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The main problem with this thesis is that it assumes that your partner will be a high quality partner. The reality is that people who have issues/defects themselves will very likely mate with other people that have similar or other defects. Because most 'high quality' people who have everything going for themselves in life, no psychologicla issues etc. are not going to date people who are not on or close to that 'level'. So when you are riddled with issues yourself, you get co-dependent/toxic/ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:36 AM
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their inclination to drift is irksome Many boys are like that until ~25. Only then some internal gears start to shift, and suddenly they have a plan and the discipline to execute on it. My father felt the same way about me and was surprised when I transformed in my late teens into a man with a plan. Known plenty of guys who I knew were smart/talented but threw away their teens/early 20s only to pick up the slack later and become successful. I guess the largest difference between them and the guy…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/24 12:14 PM
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Women want men who are unapologetically rooted in their masculinity. Men that are not afraid to speak their mind regardless of consequence. Men who are not affected by verbal or emotional manipulation, from anyone. Men who pursue and prioritize their own needs and wants. ​ In other words: masculine drive and confidence. Unfortunately for women, most men have been completely worn down first by school and a lack of guidance + a society/system that tries to enslave them, that they are only a shadow…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/24 07:24 AM
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Being 'ready' for a man comes down to: Does he think of marriage as a good deal for him Does he have enough savings/income to sustain a household Is there a woman in his life who he thinks of as marriage material So if he doesn't want to marry you: He thinks marriage is a shitty deal for him He doesn't think he is financially ready to sustain a household Thinks the woman is recreational use only Everything else is cope. It's up to the woman to figure out his answers to these questions. If you're…
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/24 07:09 AM
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We're talking 10M right. Let's say you're a high earner, live frugally and can save 100k a year. Say 13% return a year which includes reinvested dividend. That's about 20 years if you start with $0. It's not impossible, you're right, but absolutely impossible for 99% of the population. But I guess the same applies to all other methods.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/24 04:52 PM
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My thoughts are do not discourage your bf from seeing him. Also, do not speak negatively of this guy in any way. If you do, and he doesn't, you will seem like the bad guy 100% and it will backfire. If you really wanna go machiavellian; do the opposite. Speak highly of him, ask your bf to invite him over a lot and show a lot of attention to this guy when he's over. Your bf will stop hanging with him very soon. But you really gotta be able to pull this off convincingly.
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/24 04:34 PM
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I think you should ask yourself why this is so concerning to you, what is the worst that could happen? or make my boyfriend feel like I dou t his ability to vett or associate with people of good principle But you're literally saying you think he is bad at vetting. There's no way you can convey your concerns without implicitly saying he's bad at vetting. Be care/tactful. You should be honest with your bf, but you should also be honest with yourself and why this guy in particular is such an issue …
/r/RedPillWomen17/04/24 01:07 PM
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it’s just a straw man where a guy had social anxiety he got rid of You can't have good game with social anxiety, so that's not a straw man imo. guys like me get nothing from the recommendations so I can conclude it’s nonsense Good game is just 1 slice of the SMV pie. The notion that you can teach a guy who is average in all aspects good game, and he will become successful with (hot) women is a fantasy. Yes, if you believe that, you are gullible and that's what pick-up artists try to sell. Maybe …
/r/TheRedPill09/04/24 12:35 PM
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if you can’t explain to someone how to do it then it’s bullshit Is Charisma bullshit? Have people gone from 0 charisma to having a shitton of swag? Can it not be taught? Like /u/thop89 points out, there are general guidelines. I see where you're coming from with 'if you can't explain it, it's bullshit' from a scientific POV, but it's a mental defect to compare something as linear as getting jacked to something as multidimensional as game. For something linear, we can say input Y generates output…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/24 06:21 AM
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Newsflash: Men tell lies to get what they want. And so do women.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/24 09:30 AM
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mo a lot of this is probably in your head and you can train yourself out of it. He’s a narcissist (is he really?) so he has traits like lack of empathy, arrogance, entitlement and so I bet he treats you awfully outside the bedroom when he’s not trying to sleep with you. So when you do have sex, it’s the only time you feel close and loved. It feels even hotter and more amazing because he’s so cold the rest of the time. I bet he’s not actually that amazing in bed, but the hot and cold nature of yo…
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/24 10:04 AM
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The problem you’re going to have however is that the percentage of the population who are dominant men who are also husband material and who also would be a good fit for you and whom you would be a good fit for, is very small. This is the truth. Everything else is cope. The only thing energy should be spent on is figuring out how to detect these men & keep them.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/24 09:58 AM
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I don't think it's toxic. Also, I see a lot of women here pretending they have 'trained themselves out of toxic attraction' and that sounds unbelievable/cope to me. Calling it toxic attraction is also dumb. What you should focus on is figuring out on the deepest level why some part of you likes it so much. The conundrum is that (most) women like intelligent, capable, charismatic, dominant men, while also having a need for a man who has emotional intelligence and can be sweet/kind when she requir…
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/24 09:46 AM
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The farther away something is from mainstream narrative, and thus controversial, the harder it will be to avoid emotional outbursts from people if you want to discuss it. The problem with your friend is that he's still new, half understands the theory, has applied none of it in his life yet, and therefore hasn't integrated anything RP of real substance into his personality/character. The beautiful thing is, you can absolutely talk about parts of RP en plein public. You just have to be intelligen…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/24 08:03 AM
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Saying game/social skills is cope/cap is like saying having a sales department is bullshit. 'If you have a good product customers will come'. Only someone who has never sold shit says something this stupid. Someone who actually understand sales, and customers, who has had verifiable succes, could explain to you that it's better to be a good salesman with a shitty product than a shitty salesman with a good product. But you wouldn't believe him and say 'then why are you working at company xyz, sel…
/r/TheRedPill25/03/24 11:53 AM
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This post is gospel. What you should want is girls who play 'hard-to-get' just to show you they don't give themselves to just any bum. But they're into you from moment one, and have to actively restrain themselves. These are girls who see you as #1 you just have to show them you're trustworthy. What you should avoid is girls you have to 'win over'. Girls that you have to try and convince of your awesomeness. These girls don't even see you as #1 potential. And you cannot convince them you are, be…
/r/TheRedPill25/03/24 11:16 AM
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100% player is leaving a txt she sent you on read for 2 days. It's telling her to fuck off and go home at 8AM, 2 minutes after having busted a nut in her. It's hitting her up at 10PM to come over. It's making arrangements for sex and nothing else. You can do these things sporadically and it will make things more intersting. But if you pull a lot of this shit in rapid succession, it's going to be extremely obvious to her that she's nothing more than a cum dumpster to you. And most women can/will …
/r/TheRedPill25/03/24 10:56 AM
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I think it would be a fair deal And yes he excepts me to take care of him and help with his kids when they’re over half the time Except for this, that's a 🚩
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/24 03:56 PM
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I'll give a very silly example - nobody explained to Africans 100s of years ago that beads are really not that valuable & can be mass-produced, and it's unwise to use them as a store of value/currency because the people who can mass produce them will buy all your valuable things with beads, and you'll be poor. My point is, some people have not given much thought to what is or isn't high value and maybe been given bad examples. So it can be very good to question their subjective definition, becau…
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/24 03:53 PM
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I think you're doing pretty much everything you can to not become a plate/ONS. Lost weight, going to the gym, prioritizing feminine qualities/behaviors, aware of how your SMV relates to the person you're dating, keeping your body count low, made your intentions clear about a relationship etc. If this guy is as intelligent/socially aware as you make him out to be, it should be more than enough to make a few small remarks about you not just sleeping around through conversations. The opportunities …
/r/RedPillWomen18/03/24 02:16 PM
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personally don’t want a guy fawning over my beauty on the first few dates. But as the relationship progresses I feel they should start being more complimentary It's hard to understand how women don't understand how insane this sounds to the average guy out there. Women are the ones who create incentives that drive male behavior. The problem is, y'all love attention and adoration... but only from the right man under the right circumstances. And so many men have given attention and adoration to wo…
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/24 09:25 AM
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There are men who don’t want relationships, they just want casual sex Which is why you vet & don't sleep with someone the first few dates. Should weed 95% out. upon being faced with an opportunity from a woman of lower value than them will take it for a pump and dump So SMV disparity. I don't see where you disagree with anything I said. Again, anyone who gets consistently P&D, it's 100% skill issue in terms of vetting & overestimating your SMV.
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/24 04:24 PM
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From my POV, male & female 'P&Ds' usually happen when there is too large of a difference in SMV between 2 people. As a rule of thumb, neither men nor women P&D people with comparative SMV when their personalities are a good match. P&D's happen when either a man or a woman make a misjudgement about how their SMV compares to the other & a lack of vetting. For both men/women, if you have a realistic grasp of your own SMV & can do some basic vetting, you can avoid 95%+ of P&D's. If you as a woman ar…
/r/RedPillWomen03/03/24 03:35 PM
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Best way I have heard it worded was something along the lines of 'Women wanted to be more like men, they got what they wanted and are treated more like men & they hate it'.
/r/RedPillWomen01/03/24 07:32 AM
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There's a vast difference between a woman without a personality, opinions, boundaries and self-agency vs. being on edge, unnecessarily argumenative and combative 24/7. Submissive = understanding when to 'stand up for yourself' and push back vs. when to outsource decision making & listen to someone you trust and know to be more competent in a certain area. This is only 'disgusting' if the man preaching it is not strong & competent. The problem is, that in our current society, men are not raised t…
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/24 01:48 PM
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it’s downright pathetic to spend your life wallowing over a man that dumped you. It's not that she doesn't realize this - it's that she can't stop herself regardless. we’re probably discussing a type of woman with abandonment issues or attachment issues I think that in reality these things are not binary, but exist on a spectrum. These terms are just used for people who are more sensitive to these things, but they influence everyone on some level. It's just more amplified in those people. Regard…
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/24 10:15 AM
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women generally change themselves in a relationship to suit their partner. she may not even realise how much of her personality or preferences were reactions to who she is with The degree to which a woman changes her behavior, personality, beliefs, preferences and how much she tries to accommodate a man in general is predicated solely on how much she values that guy. Even the most stubborn woman will do things for a high value man she never imagined doing if she believes it will keep him with he…
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/24 10:05 AM
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Alpha Widow - A woman (typically but not necessarily post-wall) who has been abandoned by an Alpha male. No matter how great her new man is, she will perceive him as failing to meet the standard of the alpha she was previously associated with. Due to hypergamy, a woman cannot date backwards, once she gets say, a male 8, she cannot date below a male 8 and be happy with him. ​ Which I guess then by definition isn’t alpha widowed, if you can find another one on his level Right. Simply said, alpha w…
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/24 09:56 AM
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Like… is it even a real thing that men shows “their love”, that they care about you in a way that is different from women? Women tend show affection by doing a lot of small things for their man, like cooking or a massage. Men tend to make fewer, but larger gestures to their woman, buying her expensive new earrings, taking her on a weekend trip somewhere etc.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/24 01:54 PM
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My take on the comments is women telling you he's not paying you enough to be this controlling. I would ask you if him bossing you around is the type of LTR you want and a man that doesn't like your body (breast enlargement)...
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/24 02:11 PM
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Bad take. She's not paying 'half the mortgage' (that's just what she's calling it), she's just paying him rent. Her saying she pays mortgage, is like me saying I pay my landlord's mortgage. Also, he's paying all the bills. According to her, getting a flat for herself would be more expensive, which makes sense. If we assume she pays say $1.000 rent, a flat would cost $1.500 and bills would be around 800 a month. Meaning she still gets to save at least twice as much as she would otherwise. This is…
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/24 01:25 PM
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You're spot on. I was doubting my writing skills for a moment after reading some of the first comments, but I'm pretty sure now that 80% of the people here lack basic reading comprehension. This post isn't about me, it's about how girls lack basic common sense about sexual relationships and what guys screen for in a girl. It's a funny anecdote about girls not understanding why going on a trip with a bunch of guys is a red flag, and then wonder why men won't commit to them.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/24 09:10 AM
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Planned on dropping her soon anyway because my roster is full, and my dick sore, this just caused an acceleration of the inevitable.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/24 03:02 PM
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Not like all girls are like this, btw. Another plate told me last week that she could never respect a guy that would just let her do whatever in terms of how she dressed, where she went and how late she came home, alcohol consumption etc. But she's probably the exception to the rule.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/24 02:32 PM
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Imho (and I could be totally wrong) this just reads like you will give the same, improve your wardrobe, treat girls in xyz way advice that most women give. The only (generic) way to give a guy dating advice is to tell him to increase his SMV. Which is done by looks maxing, becoming more confident/dominant, acquiring better social skills & game. Plain and simple. And the person best suited for this is someone who has walked that exact path, not a woman, not a gay man. Unless someone requires cust…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/24 11:08 AM
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This post is not good because you've misunderstood the fundamental reason why women cannot give this advice. 1) It's because they are (almost universally) only able to reason from their own PoV. 2) Below a certain attractiveness threshold, men are invisible to women. This means that women will only give advice in terms of what men who they are already attracted to could do to improve even more in their eyes. You think that they don't want to tell uncomfortable truths. And although this is a part…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/24 10:54 AM
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Your first mistake is in thinking a loyalty test will prove that someone is permanently loyal. You can do this test, and they can still cheat in 5 years. Maybe they will even cheat because they know you already mistrusted them before they did anything wrong, thereby creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/24 03:32 PM
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They do it because other women do it. Exactly. In another comment, I mentioned female competition and how having higher demands compared to other women, while offering the same, will blow up the LTR. And women intuitively know that, so they avoid making the demand. It's good that RPW teaches to maximize RMV and only then make 'demands' from men. despite all the talk of "Patriarchy" in our society, women ruin things for other women the most Right. I'm just not allowed to say that as a man ;) Othe…
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/24 09:06 AM
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I think she was too casual about discussing the future, when she's over 30 and they were together for so long and things were going well. I think the more interesting question is why do a lot of women do this? Are they intuitively already sensing a high probability of blowing the relationship up?
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/24 08:59 AM
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I am just really confused because I always thought that marriage is essentially the end game for most people women Most men today do not have the same fantasy of marriage as a lot of women still do. Marriage has lost the majority of its appeal to most men. You have to vet for a man who wants to get married & specifically to you. as /u/Ok_Ice621 pointed out there are so many women willing to chill, to not put labels, to hook up, to see where things go This is your competition. If you have higher …
/r/RedPillWomen29/01/24 08:50 AM
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Are men stepping up to fully manage the home front (including kids, if there are any) in lieu of working? I think (know) there are quite a few men who would enjoy such an arrangement actually, and of course some of them will slack off, just like some stay at home wives slack off. But the fact is that the majority of women don't find a stay at home husband 'sexy'. Sure, convenient to a degree, but not sexy. Most women really despise the responsibility/pressure that comes along with being the sole…
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/24 01:17 PM
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all my social skills and self confidence went out the window. And yes, it was bad, no exaggeration. For a while I turned back into that kid with no balls that i despised being. I haven’t had that happen in a long time, I felt like I was 15 again Discomfort & failure is what makes you grow. Embrace it. I was much like you, I'm 27 now, but around 21 was when I started to slowly ditch the loser persona. Still, it took from like 18 to 24 to go from an introverted geek to someone who can hold a decen…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/24 11:57 AM
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The first one he said he’s been friends with for years. I’ve seen her call him multiple times in one week when he’s been out of the room(the phone lit up and I saw her name). He said that she often calls him for advice at work, or for advice or support with issues with her boyfriend. As a man, especially that last part is super suspect. I don't know any self-respecting man (with or without a partner) who would do that tbh.
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/24 08:12 AM
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Like others have said, it isn't always about the money. It's about work ethic usually. Work ethic, ambition, it's just doublespeak for $$. Most women will not entertain a 'hardworking' or 'ambitious' guy who has a lot of passion for some dead end gig like DJing, art, writing etc. Bachelor #2 is a first responder. This is so ironic because it's beyond obvious you still view the first responder as inferior to the finance guy on some level. He has to compensate with 'drive and passion'. What's even…
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/24 07:48 AM
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It's just funny to me that someone who thinks of their partner as 'high quality' instead of thinking 'lucky me' and 'how do I add equal value to my partner in return', instead pushes their partner away with their insecurities by acting jealous.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 09:49 PM
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They were jealous of my success and what I was able to purchase for myself. Is this really so common? 'Cus I've seen this sentiment so often, even in different subs. On some level I get it, because not only are these men usually not high on the social dominance hierarchy, even their woman is above them. Insult to injury. But I don't understand why the guy would stay in the relationship? I guess on some level he likes the perks, but at the same time those perks put a spotlight on his insecurities…
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 08:38 PM
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The ability of women to cut off some guy that doesn't interest them or whom they were using for validation isn't abundance mentality. The crux of the matter is that most men cannot get any pussy. High or low quality. Total sexual scarcity. Women do not have that same sexual scarcity, they can always get dick, low, medium and even high quality. So if you're a nobody, they can cut you off ezpz, because they know 100 more men like you. Their scarcity is finding high quality men for relationships. B…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/24 04:56 PM
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I get that you have to keep your SMV high and get her to notice that other women are checking you out. Sure, if you slack off hard, she will cheat/leave you. When I say control game, I'm talking about getting her to behave in a way that's optimally conducive for the relationship and to keep her behaving that way. If you keep discarding girls for not behaving exactly as you'd like without using control game, you will have to keep discarding them (and fast) because they slack off themselves.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/24 04:49 PM
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What is abundance mentality going to do for you when you have kids or are married? If you don't have good control game and don't vet, you'll never have multiple year LTRs. If that's not for you, and you prefer discarding women if they act out, fine, but for most of us that isn't practical. Therefore, vetting every day and using control game is mandatory.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/24 02:08 PM
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All men want the same. Rich men just know they have more to bargain with so they demand higher quality across all criteria.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/24 04:58 PM
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Saying that living off-grid is escaping the matrix is like finding a remote piece of desert in Africa that's been abandoned, placing your flag there and calling yourself a conqueror and a king. Delusion. Freedom is optionality, and optionality requires wealth & influence. Hiding in a corner and calling it freedom is so fucking cope.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/24 04:50 PM
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as an intelligent individual, do not need it. Societies needed it because people who wanted to the control society needed someone to explain to semi-neanderthal goat fucker peoples that killing is wrong, that women fucking random men is wrong because they get STDs and pregnant and have noone to take care of the child. Religion is something smart people invented to control 'less developed people', to stop their destructive behaviours, and get them to do something productive. That is not the point…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/24 11:01 AM
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It is about getting OUT of the matrix; not doubling down like a sheep and wasting your life chasing money. If you are a person who chases money to get social status & things like girls, you're in the matrix, yes. But you cannot escape the matrix without money. You're talking about learning survival skills, lol. You don't get it, at all. Living off-grid is not escaping the matrix. That's being a fugitive. Escaping the matrix is to have enough assets spread out across the globe and multiple nation…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/24 10:46 AM
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Any women over college age is adequately aware of her sexual nature, and is therefore responsible for any collateral damage she causes whenever she opens herself to suitors. They are semi aware, the main issue is that there are not enough 'Alpha Bux' men to go around, so women have to make trade-offs. And yes, that's where the manipulation/misdirection starts. The modern woman is liable for misportraying her own sexual nature Imagine the havoc that would be wreaked if women collectively told men…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/24 08:04 AM
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This is a brilliant post. Chapeau. Well reasoned & well phrased. Great analogies. ​ Second, recognize if you're the owner, a guest or an unwanted intruder. If you are anything other than the owner, just leave. So... can a woman have multiple owners over a lifetime? Or can there only ever be 1? Or only 1 simultaneously?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/24 08:21 PM
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First, your study does not invalidate anything I said, because I said attractive, not good-looking. Good looks are just one factor in determining overall male attractiveness. And besides Id rather date a cute 7 than a 10 who likely will be disloyal. According to your study, there is an even smaller correlation between cheating and attractiveness as there is for promiscuity and attractiveness. And apparently, you believe said study, because you used it to support your first point, so why would yo…
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/24 02:11 PM
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There's such a thing as 'natural Red Pill'. Most ('Alpha') guys I discuss this kind of stuff with have never read TRP, or even are on Reddit, and I don't reference it. But they absolutely understand and agree with most concepts and apply them in their own lives. The only difference between me and them is they had someone tell and show them in real life, or (more often) they figured it out by themselves through observation and experimentation instead of reading about it online. If you're talking …
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/24 08:41 AM
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Of course, you don't prefer dating promiscuous men. The thing is that, you do like dating attractive men. And there is a very large overlap between the pool of attractive men and the pool of men who are promiscuous. ​ Usually, not always, but usually, this is a fantasy similar in terms of playing out in real life, to men wanting a virgin with a high sex drive that's good in bed.
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/24 08:34 AM
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1) Low value men don't care at all, yes. But women don't want those losers. 2) High value men don't care if it's casual. Most of them will however absolutely avoid them for LTRs.
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 08:31 PM
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The male equivalent of 'I'm good enough the way I am' Is a guy that has low confidence, no game, overweight, working a dead end job, playing video games all day, living with parents and generally not going anywhere in life. And we all know how many women want that type of man. Lol
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 07:46 AM
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Never said people dont marry within the same social class. Your anecdotal experience doesnt invalidate my point I'm pointing out that a masculine man and a masculine woman can literally not be in a long term relationship that's functional. It's completely possible for a woman to be a doctor and not be a 'boss babe'... Or for a man to be a doctor and not be hyper masculine...
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 09:42 PM
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I don't think a religious framework is a necessity for a woman to submit to her man. Sure, you won't have an exact 1950s type of relationship but that's not what most men, or OP, are looking for. If you want a low body count, feminine, submissive woman, who raises your kids in a productive manner, you don't need religion for that shit. Just a smart gal who understands her role and yours. Religion is just a moral framework for dummies who can't figure out for themselves how to live righteously an…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/24 09:37 AM
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Yes...but. Most men cannot provide for an entirely family at a certain lifestyle by themselves. Not everyone needs a million-dollar-plus McMansion in the suburbs of NYC to be happy. Hence why I said 10% not 1%. The reality is that being a SAHM in modern society is a luxury and only an option for a minority of women. Most of them are going to have to work until retirement, just like the men. Tough cookie.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/23 08:04 AM
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many masculine men generally avoid women that are more educated and/or higher earning than them. Again, if they are truly masculine, it would not matter as much That's a frequently brought up argument, but I don't know if it's ultimately correct, despite seemingly making sense on a surface level. What always irked me the wrong way was that it's pretty much shaming language that blames male insecurity instead of looking for an explanation that looks at incentives & game theory. A woman earning mo…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 01:21 PM
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Ehh I understand her. You're right, alpha is not about money per se. Ultimately, it comes down to confidence that allows an individual to be influential. And confidence arises from knowing how highly capable you are in some area compared to others & the status this brings. Alpha = being at the top of (a subset of) the social hierarchy. One man can never be 'the alpha' in every situation. Saying top MMA fighters are alpha and Elon Musk isn't is an overly simplistic view. Both are Alpha's in their…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 01:06 PM
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"men love to provide" Some do. If they can. The fact is, that most men cannot provide for an entire family by themselves. Back in the day, it was easier for one man to provide for his family. Real wages have been on the decline for a number of reasons, both technological (automation), economical (Quantitative easing) & societal (women entering the workforce) to name a few. Only the top ~10% of men can comfortably provide for a wife and 2 kids. Not only do most men simply not have the capability …
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 12:38 PM
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She remembers little details about you. If it ever gets to the point where she brings up something that you said 3 months ago that you had forgotten about, that's a sign she likes you. Every word that comes out of your mouth means something to her. This one is great. If she remembers something minor that even you yourself forgot you told her. If you don't give a shit about somebody, you won't be remembering any small detail. The exception is if she's got a gifted memory, but that's so rare you c…
/r/TheRedPill27/12/23 02:35 PM
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I exaggerate on purpose when I say virgin. Any (non-religious) man who expects a woman >21 to be a virgin is an idiot tbh. For me personally, it's not about body count per se, but about a woman not being a highly volatile emotional mess (unpredictable), that's largely validation driven, inability to follow my lead, because ultimately, she has to be a stable factor in my future kids' life. Body count is just a strong potential indicator that she's a liability rather than an asset (not a guarantee…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 02:13 PM
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The top 3 most important factors for men when choosing an LTR: Looks Personality Not a hoe Yes, it's literally #3. I'm not even going to bother to differentiate body count being #14 or #21 on women's priority list. Because it's that far down comparatively.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 01:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure any man will pick a hot, social butterfly virgin over the slut :) Income is not a highly valued factor for men Yes, my point being that money to men is what body count is to women.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 01:01 PM
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Depends more on how hot those women are. Assuming all else is equal in my example. a man's dominant, instinctive preference tends to be a woman's physical beauty. Another great point where men & women value traits differently. Men value physical beauty so highly, they will practically never date women they aren't physically attracted to at first glance. Women date men they weren't physically attracted to at first glance all the time, because they value many other traits highly as well.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 12:41 PM
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Are these 'playboys' actual successful, wealthy men, or former 'hot' bartenders who have hit rock bottom with shit lives in their 30s? I will agree with you that women will pass on that latter man as LTR material. But the only reason they'll pass on the former is that they do not believe they can lock him down & not because they aren't attracted to him. In another comment, you mentioned body count being important to you specifically, but for most women, other traits are valued as being much more…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 11:39 AM
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Right. People want partners who have the most 'preferable' traits. Not partners who share their own 'negative' traits. In another alternative universe, the virgin marries the virgin and the rich woman the rich man. But in this universe, a rich man would prefer a poor virgin over a rich slut. Because not only do we want partners with the most preferable traits, the sexes also assign different value to different traits.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 11:27 AM
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Similarly, your comment about not being easy early on is about moderating their assumptions - which you wouldn't have to do at all if they actually didn't care. Right. She unconsciously admits that she intuitively knows that high body count is bad & how to hide it.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 11:08 AM
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No high value, intelligent, socially adept man is going to outright ask you for your body count. Why? Women lie It's bad etiquette It signals insecurity So instead, we screen you in other ways that are more subtle. If you are an intelligent, socially adept woman, you will notice when a man is screening you. We try to figure out how many exes you have. If your friends are sluts or in LTRs. If you are a party girl. If you are into drugs. If you have high risk taking behaviour in general (tattoo's,…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/23 10:57 AM
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Besides the laws of physics, everything exists in the realm of probabilities. Wonderful men do exist Yes they do exist, but most of them, especially the ones with options, are unwilling to wait with sex before marrying a divorcee. “I want to be completely open, safe, and really give myself to my husband. I want to be completely his and let him see a vulnerability I’ve never shown anyone. I know I need a commitment for that.” I can appreciate the candor, but basically this is you asking for every…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/23 06:22 PM
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So not only are you not a virgin, you'll also be a divorcee soon. And you want to make your next husband wait for sex until marriage? I think you'll have a very hard time convincing any man in what world that makes any sense
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/23 07:59 PM
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It's funny - I live in a study with a lot of med students. And there are about 2 women in med school for every male. Something insane like 20% of women on dating apps are in med school between age 18-26. Not enough men in med school for them to go around. As a slightly older guy in tech, it's shooting fish in a barrel
/r/TheRedPill20/12/23 02:45 PM
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where there's a clear power dynamic trying to be asserted Spot on. He's just using this overt statement to put pressure on her and make her qualify herself. There's always a power game being played, especially on (first) dates, when the power structure is undecided and roles are still undefined. All such an overt statement tells you is that you're playing an unskilled opponent. Or someone who cares so little he will use a gambit like this to hook you and if it doesn't, dip.
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/23 11:35 AM
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I know many successful career woman Probably because of your social circle, I imagine. Also, when I talk about career, I'm talking upper management or highly paid professional. Salary 150k+ minimum. 95% of people have jobs.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 02:01 PM
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21 yo girl who's probably in debt talking about how successful she is... 🤡 All women want a guy that's more successful, please make that math work for everyone. ​ Another thing that always strikes me as funny is young women talking about higher education to advance their careers, but when I look around, there are very few women who actually have careers. Most work (regular) part-time jobs and earn below average wages compared to their male peers. And the reason for this is that they find out the…
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/23 09:02 AM
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Wait until you encounter a women who takes 20 minutes to climax from oral. 95% of the time it isn't your skill that causes them to climax, it is their innate understanding of their own intamacy and comfortability within themselves. I've had women who climax within seconds or minutes and other who simply cannot at all. This is fact. If you are the guy who is the first to get them to orgasm, you're absolutely golden, though. For me personally, if it takes a lot of effort to get a girl off, I'm not…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/23 12:08 PM
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do you think you yourself might be a little too judgemental (on an unconscious level) of your parents/background because you'd rather have been wealthy to begin with? I wouldn't phrase it as judgemental, rather as being overly obsessed with money & status. A feeling of inferiority arises from focusing too much on this one aspect of life. If she didn't think money/status was a big thing, she wouldn't be writing this post. Therefore, assuming she finds it quite important, it's only logical that a …
/r/RedPillWomen09/12/23 10:44 AM
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Women tend to not like, forget, not forgiving, and doesn't want to talk to an ex who cheated 7 times. The fact that she let this mf cheat 7 times before breaking up should tell you how much she was into him. Not to mention they still have contact, lmao ​ If you cheat on a desirable & emotionally mature girl, she's blocking you on the spot and moving on.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/23 09:24 PM
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Let me be clear that I trust her and she's very much into me. 🧢 I'm not worried about other guys 🧢🧢 ​ What you're doing is just mate guarding. It doesn't work if you try setting these rules from a place of insecurity. Also, if she doesn't do these things by herself you should know it's not gonna last anyway. Just spin her as a plate.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/23 09:21 PM
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I'd much prefer to be single forever then marry a man I don't like or am not sexually attracted to because I'm socially or economically required to do so In a way, that's a sad state of affairs, but it is reality. And a reality that average men would rather ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:16 PM
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if that were the issue then most people would've been struggling decades ago Nope, because decades ago the majority of (Western) women were still dependent on men for income. What has changed is that women no longer have to rely on men for survival & they can be much pickier because technology (social media, online dating) gives them access to many more options than before. What y'all don't want to admit is that this was always already in woman's nature, it just could never materialize to this d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:14 PM
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He knew... he just wanted to see their reaction lmao
/r/TheRedPill05/12/23 09:35 AM
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enjoy his company and feel attracted to him But not enough to sleep with him, or even kiss what is the longest time I could put off kissing a new person I'm dating for? 5 dates is already insane. I don't know many (or maybe even any) guy that would be willing to wait that long. If a girl took that route with me, I would assume she's just friend zoning me & stringing me along for attention, and not romantically interested.
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/23 09:10 AM
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A 7.5 is the pretty girl in your high school class. 9s and 10s are girls that have at least 10k Instagram followers & get flown out on jets to Dubai. Those are 2 completely different leagues.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/23 10:57 AM
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wonder if restricting a girl who wanted to go on a tame trip with old girlfriends is me coming from a place of fear or me having a sensible boundary It depends on multiple things. How loyal you think your girl is, how high quality women her friends are & the destination of the trip. If you are having doubts, why did you even LTR her? is a better question to ask
/r/TheRedPill01/12/23 06:06 PM
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“If you were maintaining sexual relationships with multiple women, none of this would be a problem.” If that were true, this lurker would not be messaging you. He is spinning plates. He just doesn't want to lose this 'special' one.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/23 06:03 PM
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This is going to make my life so much easier ​ Thnx
/r/TheRedPill01/12/23 04:57 PM
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That's why people who only rate women in terms of looks are morons (in regard to LTR/plates). A girl who is a 7.5 looks wise but has a great personality, similar goals & values, agreeable, submissive & loyal is worth infinitely more than a 10 who's a stuck up bitch with the depth of a puddle of water. Andrew Tate always compares the top .1% of men to luxury cars and how women should accept that these cars have to go to the garage all the time because things break (cheating) and if reliableness i…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/23 02:25 PM
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About 10 and probably just as few as 5% of men have 'many options'. Never meant to be a smart ass, but once it was pointed out to me that women's perception of the average men was super skewed, and I started paying attention, it became obvious that it's generally true, even in this sub. An average man to women who pursued higher education is a top 25th percentile man usually. then exclude the bottom 50% Because, tough as it sounds (and is), the bottom 50% of men don't even exist for women who pu…
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/23 10:16 AM
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Ok, so we're talking about the top 20-50 percentile of men now, that's fair. for whom there is no competition I'd say the competition is way less intense, because there are not as many (young) women focusing on those guys, and the women that do are usually not model tier either. But yeah, if you aim for a 30th percentile man, and you have a bunch of feminine qualities without a lot of baggage (bonus points if you're still in your 20s), it's not too difficult to get commitment. And I agree you ca…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/23 11:29 AM
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Call me skeptical, but when I hear women talk about 'average' men, they're usually still talking about men who are still in the top 30 (or even 20) percentile... Average means; 38k income, 100 IQ, blue collar, overweight, low net worth, average social skills etc. That's average, and there's nothing wrong with that. From my experience, it's just not something that's women's first choice. Now in regard to your article, I'm going to assume that in these scenarios, the guy (like the author points ou…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/23 10:13 AM
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“why buy the cow if the milk is free” I remember reading that and thought it was great I theorized that clever men who have a good amount of EQ would be able to spot that for what it was, and get a bad aftertaste from that kind of strategy. The best thing was that the next day, she started to gaslight me by saying I was only after sex. All I could think was 'Girl we've covered so many topics in ~10 hrs of conversation, if you really think I'm dumb enough to engage with you playing these kinds of…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/23 09:14 AM
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a woman who is serious about waiting had better not behave like a whore N of two he knows I'm different And I don't mind missing out on a "great match" who can't respect my need to wait. The right match for me is also different from the norm. Completely fair. But not applicable to OP (or most women for that matter)
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 10:09 PM
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if you’ve vetted him well and have decided that he’s who you want, holding off on sex just because you NEED to wait for commitment may be the thing that stops you from getting it. I'll chime in from the male POV to underline u/SunshineSundress point; Went on a couple of dates w/ a girl. Great vibes, compatibility etc. Really into each other. Eventually she goes home w/ me, we make out, but in the bedroom she tells me 'We're not having sex. Yet.' Starts rambling about how she wants a certain # of…
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 09:59 PM
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That's fair. If you were dating total losers before due to low self confidence that's a lot different from the image I got... good for you. Probably different from what OP is talking about btw. But hard to tell through a screen with limited context
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 04:45 PM
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Don't mean to be an ass, but your comment can basically be summarized as 'Don't date out of your league'. They were courting me - not I them. Feeling like they won a prize. Right Romance could be better Unsurprisingly
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 11:02 AM
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I'm not sure if it's about it being difficult, I think that the amount of attractive men who are willing to wait for sex until after commitment is pretty much non-existent today. On one hand, they have a lot of sexual options, on the other hand, they know how promiscuous the average woman is. Again, I'm talking about the men that are desired by the majority of women, not the average to below average men who have few or no sexual options. If you want one of these men, sure your approach will work…
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 10:11 AM
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Typing this out, I’m actually mortified at my behavior and I feel very ashamed. Lots of people hook up with exes etc. That's not abnormal behavior imho. The problem is giving your sexuality/body to random men out of boredom and for entertainment purposes. Because once men see your casual stance towards sex and how low your standards are for it, they will automatically reject the idea of becoming exclusive with you. In that regard, situationships are still highly preferable over ONS. It's one thi…
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/23 10:02 AM
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It's not good looks or dominance... it's good looks, dominance and success that women are after. Of course, the amount of men that score in the top 5 percentile on all three of those is minuscule. And if you are not one of those men, all you can hope for is that a man that is in that category never comes for your girl. Which he probably won't, because again, lots of women and only a few men of that calibre. Being strong and confident make him hot far more than looks do. This is the same discussi…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/23 08:08 AM
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The thing with avoiding OLD is that it limits you to 1) Your geographical area 2) and by extension your (existing) social circles Usually this means that your only options are going to be people you know through your student association, a sport association, school or work, which is a very limited amount of people. They would have LOVED to have a tool like this at their disposal rather than having to marry Joe down the street because that is the only person they had exposure to. Yes
/r/RedPillWomen20/11/23 06:54 PM
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I'm like this as well where if I'm really into something it becomes an obsession, and it's on your mind basically all day every day. Some people are just build like this. Usually the topic of obsession doesn't last longer than a few months to 2 years max in my experience ;) Be glad it's aimed at something positive, like working out. Plenty of people who put that energy into much more detrimental things.
/r/RedPillWomen16/11/23 09:25 AM
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I actually agree lmao. Been doing OLD these past few months. I'm definitely in the top 5% height, face and body wise. And still it's a pain in the ass. You can get a 6 maybe 7 here and there. Forget about 8s, too much competition. 9s and 10s just use it as a social media funnel for followers. Reality is that male:female ratio is super skewed to their advantage & if you're not her best or at least 2nd best match at that moment, she's not going to meet with you. Even if I beat 97/100 guys, if she …
/r/TheRedPill14/11/23 09:49 PM
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I am 29 and my husband is 27 We are both highly educated and have good jobs. Well, he has a great job and I am just starting my career. My comment is not specifically for you OP, but for other (younger) women; This is not a situation you want to be in. One of the most common issues with women marrying younger men is kids. It's something you need to discuss early and set a timeline for. Being 29 just having finished your education and starting your career while getting baby rabies because your bi…
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/23 08:46 AM
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Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. The problem is her behaviour, which, like you pointed out, is very sus. A good girl isn't going to be going out w/ single friends, getting wasted, phone off, stay at another house, late for work in the morning etc. You should drop her as a gf just based on that behaviour, doesn't matter if she cheated or not.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/23 04:58 PM
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'girls are afraid to commit to you because you are way above them' Yeah that's cope ​ You can introduce RP concepts into conversation and men that are not dipshits will usually agree. What we have labelled 'RP' is to many men just common sense... We are just the regards that were never taught and didn't 'get it' naturally. Guys who are successful with women will often understand many of these concepts and use them intuitively, although they might have blind spots. They just figured it out by tri…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/23 07:15 PM
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I think all the points you mentioned are easy to spot and avoid/navigate around, except for this one; For relationships that take off, kids is one of the number one barriers. If things start to get serious, I would discuss this upfront. If they are young, they may also tell you what you want to hear and then change their mind later.
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/23 09:19 AM
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For future reference... you moved wayyy too fast with this girl. That's both why you missed the red flags and also why you're in this tricky situation. Same goes for her btw. Crazy to moves cities after just 2 months of dating.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/23 04:18 PM
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Disagree from experience. You can do it, but first you need a proper break-up and at least a few months for things to cool down. Don't get surprised if feelings start getting into the picture at some point and the plate breaks. As all plates eventually do. Key is to manage your expectations and emotions.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/23 04:13 PM
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According to your logic, a fuckboi can't attract a good Christian virgin. And a nerd with good morals who wants to treat his girl right, will. Except that's not how the real world works. That's not how attraction works. It's not 1+1 = 2. You've never seen a situation where you think, 'that guy is a total bum, how is this girl with him?'. Are you just going to chalk that up to she's not as 'good' as you believe, she's actually trash? The 'high quality women' you're talking about, who are your 'ty…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/23 07:05 AM
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Yep, it might. But it's absolutely not a guarantee that high testosterone will get you to grind, either. I tested and got back about 900ng/dl and struggle with the same stuff, perhaps not to the same degree though.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/23 08:19 AM
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I get where he's coming from. Thought about writing a similar comment. Relationships, dating, attraction, sex, they are all now pastimes, hobbies, things you do for fun and with the intention of making your life more enjoyable. Basically, this is modern propaganda/brainwashing. It does not apply to most men and women, even in first world countries. But they/we pretend it does. It only applies to people with no intent of having kids or people who have top 90th percentile plus kind of money. Also,…
/r/TheRedPill19/10/23 09:10 AM
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So, what DO men provide in relationships? Well, the answer is fun. Capital-F-Fun. It is important to note however that when I say 'fun', I am referring to the concept of continually adding value and enjoyment to her life that she otherwise wouldn't have without you. That means sex, companionship, desire, legitimate actual fun, good feelings and positive interactions. If those drop off, even if you're bringing in the bread and keeping a roof over her head, she will leave. Simple as that. If you a…
/r/TheRedPill19/10/23 08:19 AM
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This will not have 100% effectiveness. Especially not if you don't give off high SMV vibes on first glance. Your entire spiel falls apart if the girl decides to include the other dude in the conversation despite you ignoring him. She will do so because it's both entertaining for her and, like you mentioned, gives her more leverage. Your approach only works in the scenario that the guy gives up easily and the girl goes along with you ignoring him. The trick is to get the other guy to qualify hims…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/23 01:46 PM
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Because a lot of us don't think marriage is worth it. So we might be willing to live with you, have children together but not want to get married. That's what happens when family law is heavily lopsided towards benefitting women.
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/23 10:57 AM
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Let's put it like this; We know within 1-3 months if you're wife material. But that does not mean we want to get married to you.
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/23 08:37 AM
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Exactly. People with ADHD just need someone who can handle the administrative side of the eternal chaos manifesting in their mind. Good communication and ability to lead have nothing to do with ADHD as far as I'm aware.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/23 09:05 AM
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Most 'friends' (acquaintances) are just people holding back your true potential. Crab bucket mentality etc. If you don't look up to a person in some way and are not becoming a better version of yourself by spending time with said person, you should minimize your time with them. If they have any negative impact, cut them out altogether. In regard to women, I’d advise most guys to not spend time with women you aren't fucking. The only exception is if this woman is actively helping you in getting l…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/23 08:35 AM
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Ah yes, the children yearn for the mines
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/23 07:05 AM
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This post is just intended as a pointer to show how far women are willing to go for high-status men. And that you should therefore strive to maximize your own SMV. I'm perfectly aware that nobody reading this is ever going to attain DiCaprio's level of status. Or that his approach is what I would do in his position. It's also pointless for us to speculate about what we would do in his hypothetical shoes because you'd only know if you were.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/23 09:47 AM
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Yes, TRP is about sexual strategy, but what you're talking about has nothing to do with sexual strategy, just your personal relationship preference.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/23 09:41 AM
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I don't enjoy ONS at all, I prefer more of a connection and sexual chemistry that can only be achieved after some mutual practice. Also think it's an inefficient allocation of my time. If you can do what Leo can do though, what I'm talking about is easy mode. TRP is not about how you should apply certain information or viewpoints. It's about opening your eyes to female nature and giving you more optionality in terms of navigating the sexual marketplace, you decide where to go from there.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/23 07:15 AM
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It's not the same because quite a few of those top posts are about news articles. And you can't scroll further down after a certain point (I think you can't see the posts with 500-900 upvotes). And many of those posts were gold as well. So what I do is sort by top posts, scroll through the comments and navigate to profiles from EC's who have been inactive for 5-8 years and read their top posts/comments and save the best ones. Today this sub is somewhat of an archive mostly.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/23 08:25 AM
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Pussy is just in way higher demand than dick. Unless you're top 5% lookswise you shouldn't even bother w/ OLD.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/23 11:12 AM
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Honestly though, HVM’s (guys that are picked by women readily) do somehwat have this luxury, ​ the answer is a resounding, “no.” That's cognitive dissonance, imho. I think that the objectively verifiable answer is that men who behave like this, do have many traits in common with what RPW considers HVM, except they lack loyalty and perhaps integrity. They don't make good/reliable husband material per this subs guidelines. But that wasn't the question though. Like /u/Cosima_Fan_Tutte points out, t…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/23 07:28 AM
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Humans in general when giving multiple choices will always trade up This is not what hypergamy is. Your definition is off. the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background. Men do not date up and across social hierarchies (women do). Men date across and down.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/23 07:08 PM
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Nah man, you're giving chicks too much credit here. Especially in this case because dude is 32 and a barista. They just get the tingles because he's good-looking/charming, and go for him because, yes, that's how boring most men are comparatively. Smart women want to get in at the lower level of a man’s building stage because they know the men are more likely to pair bond and stay loyal once they do achieve success. They're not thinking 6 steps ahead, dude. They just see an intelligent, confident…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/23 10:47 AM
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I'm pretty curious, u/Elysium____ Can a girl per your definition only be a 9-10 if she's a model/influencer or something along those lines? Cloud in general? Because that would explain your experience to me. I do not believe on the other hand that the best looking women all have triple digit notches, BPD and other characteristics you mention. What I'm saying is, can the prettiest girls with a 'regular' job never be more than an 8 on your scale? Which I can understand if your line of thinking is …
/r/TheRedPill30/09/23 10:36 AM
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Older men are in some ways safer because you don't have to guess on their success as much. True, but the asking price also increases. I'd say 2-4 years is ideal in most cases, so for young women it's usually going to be a case of picking the guy with high potential. But if you know the dude has what it takes to rise, close to your age is totally fine as well. The tricky part is knowing what is or isn't 'high potential' when you're still so young (<25). Confident, intelligent, socially calibrated…
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/23 07:45 AM
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She's a nice girl, she isn't by any means stupid like others i've had on the side This is a classic. The amount of times I've been with a woman and thought 'this one is actually pretty smart' only for her to say/do one of the dumbest things I've ever witnessed... After a while, you become very sceptical when they seem intelligent initially.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/23 12:27 PM
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Putting yourself in social circles that interact with top-tier women is a better ROI than pretty much any type of game. You might consider writing something of a guide yourself if you're good at creating/getting into these social circles. I've noticed that after college (where pussy was just falling into my lap by virtue of being a member of multiple student associations/frat), now I've got to go out of my way to meet women, and it's super time-consuming. For me, a large part of the problem is t…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/23 12:18 PM
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They want what they want not because it’s their intrinsic desire, but because that is what they have been made to want by their surroundings. If you want an actual long term relationship, you need to get the girl(s) onboard with your goals, or parallel goals. I agree, but if it's a bridge too far, you just gotta dip. Some differences and gaps are irreconcilable. Better to get a girl that was raised in a similar environment with comparable values/goals than to turn a hood rat into a soccer mom.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/23 12:02 PM
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They're both okay with their side of mediocrity. And now I feel like I don't relate to any of the women I've met so far on a long term perspective. I'd say 90% of people in general are content with mediocrity or worse, not just women. Although women, generally speaking, certainly aren't willing to work as hard as men to get ahead. I'm not sure how old you or these girls are, but lots of girls don't have a clue where they want to go until their late 20s.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/23 11:59 AM
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There are plenty of free countries around the world besides the West and the anglosphere where women are free to be promiscuous and choose not to be Hard disagree. This is just your perception. If the incentives are the same, you'll get the same outcome. In the cultures you're referring to, the negative consequences for promiscuous women are just not as visible to outsiders, but they are there, enforced by strong social cohesion. The 'cultural aspect' you're speaking of, is just a form of social…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/23 11:02 AM
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Just look at incentives. That's all you should ever do if you want to find out the motivations for someone's behaviour. The fact is, if a woman was promiscuous in ancient times, or even the 1800s, nobody was going to see her as wife material, and she could only access resources by prostituting etc. Women were to weak to perform heavy physical labor and didn't receive education to do something of a more intellectual nature, they couldn't earn a decent living alone. Never mind things like physical…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/23 10:51 AM
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Yes it matters. But it isn't insurmountable per se. Also, there is a difference coming from a hard-working, blue collar family vs. having bums/druggies/alcoholic/gamblers for parents. Ultimately, it comes down to your beliefs, values, how you carry yourself and act, if you're well-spoken, intelligent etc. If that is in line with people from a higher social class, your upbringing will be a non-issue. Anybody from upper-class who is not a douchebag will have total respect for someone who came from…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/23 09:55 AM
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He's capping. Just reverse the genders and ask him if he'd be ok. If he says yes it's more 🧢
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 04:20 PM
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He's 100% a PoS for going out with this girl. Believe me, he knows exactly what he's doing. Guys (especially in fkn LTR's) don't go on 'casual' dates with girls (especially not whom they met on Tinder) just to be 'friends'. You just played your cards very poorly here, and he used this to turn those around him against you. Manipulation 101. It doesn't matter tho because he was probably going to go down this road regardless of what you did. You just sped things up with the way you reacted. Don't s…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 04:16 PM
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SMV is low right now because you're 20. The only guys who do typically well with women when they're this young, are the ones that are naturally confident, good-looking, don't give a fuck, are funny and have a large social circle that gives them status, and access to a ton of girls. Which is maybe 5% of guys at that age. Most girls are going to go after guys who are 2-3 (or more) years older. And the average 20yo guy is going to get smoked even by a 23yo guy when competing for a girl (my 23yo sel…
/r/TheRedPill17/09/23 01:38 PM
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a woman with a high body count CANNOT KEEP A MAN from day one Hmm. I was reading some things about how very attractive women usually have lower body counts than average looking women. And the theory was that not only did they have a lot of (High Value) guys chasing after them and the pick of the litter, she could also get commitment from almost every one of them, because she is so hot. Whereas average looking women have also a lot of guys chasing them, but those are generally not the highest val…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/23 11:02 AM
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The person who breaks things off is usually ~3 months further along in the grieving cycle. Which the person being broken up with experiences as 'look, he never cared about me'. But in reality he was experiencing those feelings 3 months earlier, hence all the erratic behaviour at the time. I'm not sure if it was one or two months or more and I am trying to cope with the fact that I may in fact never know the truth about any of it. Does it matter...? To have him come back and try to get me back wo…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/23 04:40 PM
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The answer is always he thinks the other girl is better. Either physically better looking, more cute and feminine personality, shows more understanding and care. Etc. I don't think better is even a requirement all the time. Sometimes, the other girl just fills a void in him that seems very important at that moment, whatever it may be. And he might very well realize that void is gone in a month or that the grass wasn't greener on the other side after all and want you back. Nothing sneaky or to in…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/23 04:23 PM
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I almost exclusively go for 18-21yo girls (I have my Tinder set to this age range & in person I hit on young university students more than any other demographic) This is the crux of the matter. Unless you use OLD or have great daygame or want to go to clubs, it's going to be harder to meet these 20 yo's. I agree, it's not harder to pull them if you have the SMV to back it up. In your 30s, and especially later, you're simply not going to travel in social circles any more that have lots of early/m…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/23 09:33 AM
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Did you not tell her that wasn't what you wanted long term? Or you did and she didn't care? I did. She pretended she didn't care. That I shouldn't worry about the future as long as we were having a good time together for now. She knew it wouldn't last, she just didn't want to face that reality until the final moment.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/23 09:25 AM
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Nah, my financial situation couldn't be more dissimilar from OP's. But like OP here, my ex finessed her way into my life similarly, and I was just very complacent at the time & let it all happen (because it was convenient for me) even though I knew it wasn't what I wanted long-term. Made me realize how wrong it is to exclusively date, let alone live with, a woman when there's no intent of having children with her.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/23 09:02 AM
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I think it's obvious to anyone here, that she's too good for you at this moment. And still you're the one who wants to leave & upgrade. ​ You know, we ridicule women with overinflated perception of their SMV all the time here, right? You're like the male equivalent of a deadbeat girl who is dating a middle class guy thinking she deserves a millionaire... To a woman like that, we would say she's for the streets. Check yourself.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/23 08:18 AM
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You think you don't want to be with her but the truth is women like her are hard to find. She's the greatest teacher you'll ever have and you probably don't deserve her. The greatest value a woman can give is showing yoy exactly who tf you are and how ugly you really are. This woman who faithfully submitted to you and held you down, you're going to abandon her and ruin what to her might be her last chance at happiness for years to come. It's cold. Selfish. I was in this exact situation just a ye…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/23 08:10 AM
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If guides filled with common sense like this were required reading in school, we'd actually still have strong social cohesion, instead of a society that's becoming ever more polarized and falling apart. This is so good I'd almost send it to my ex gf, so she can use it to vet her next partner, and get her dating life back on track in general.
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/23 08:50 AM
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Maybe the key is to try to not notice their vibe Women don't really have a 'vibe', they want to enter your frame and join your vibe. The thing is, when you meet them they're still cold, and you have to want to make them enter your frame by having a fun time 'in there' by yourself already. You should not be focused on her emotional state initially (because doing, so you enter her frame, which women despise), but on your own and having a good time yourself, like others pointed out.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/23 08:02 AM
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How do you initiate the break up but don't provide closure? If you let the relationship slowly die, without giving an overt reason at any point then yes, that's not providing closure. But you say that's not ending it on your terms? To me that seems completely contradictory.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/23 08:35 PM
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I can't get laid because I'm a pushover simp without confidence, I have no standards, no ambition and the most mundane, uninteresting life possible. That's what you should be giving advice abt
/r/TheRedPill21/08/23 06:36 PM
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Men are used to a woman having a degree. True, because college men have been around women like that their entire adulthood. One of the big reasons this sub advocates for women going to college is precisely to get into the proximity of those men, which I agree with. What I categorically disagree with, is that men care about a college degree in and of itself. All else being equal (which of course it never is, but assume for the sake of this argument it is), a degree does not give a woman 1 a big a…
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/23 07:20 AM
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If it matters, it matters and Millenial and Gen Z men have been raised in a society that puts a lot of emphasis on education and career. Speaking as a Gen Z, this rings entirely untrue in my experience. Everyone has a degree these days. And most of them are crap, and we know this. Having a degree doesn't differentiate you in any way, unless it's in something exceptional. (Which are degrees women rarely pursue) Men prefer a (street) smart girl from a decent family over a girl of above average int…
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/23 09:46 AM
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Lies & deceit are not the natural way of the universe. That's why you constantly have to invest energy to keep deceit going. Total energy drain long term. Honesty & transparency is the natural way. That's why it takes no effort. You don't have to remember what you said to whom etc. Ultimately, lies are just a cover for insecurity, because ultimately you don't believe yourself good enough without distortion.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/23 07:03 AM
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Thnx for your time & effort. Much appreciated.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/23 02:34 PM
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Money isn't everything... especially not to young women, in my experience. Most couldn't care less if you make 60 or 90k. They're usually fine paying for their own shit and will almost laugh at you if you try to, even subtly, flex with wealth. Also, there are plenty of guys 3-4 years older than them that make decent money. Sure, those won't have a swimming pool, a penthouse, be able to buy them a luxury car or pay off their student debt. But they can pay for dinners & vacations or drugs just fin…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/23 06:37 PM
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/u/VasiliyZaitzev Hope you see this and have time to give some advice. My issue is somewhat related to this post, but not exactly. I'm 27 now, ideally would like to have babies in 1- years with a ~23 yo girl while in my mid 30s. I know you date this age bracket as an older man. I'm assuming, though, these girls know it's a temporary thing. Do you think they would settle down with a guy 10-15 years older than them at that age? I'm assuming it's possible but having a hard time believing it because…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/23 05:38 PM
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Same boat. Also found TRP at 18 and still took me 'till 25 to come to terms with myself and how to best play this game of life. Still far from where I'd like to be one day, but also doing better than virtually everyone my age career/women wise. So that's one positive aspect of starting late - you're more experienced in life in general. And that's a huge boost, cause you only need to dial in the details specific to fucking women rather than trying to get your whole entire life on track. Not sure …
/r/TheRedPill31/07/23 05:19 PM
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They have been childhood best friends Sometimes we find out that childhood friends become (or always were, you just didn't want to acknowledge it) losers. My friend lives with her parents and has never moved out or paid them rent. She has been single for years and her prior relationship experiences were with abusive, unstable men she met at bars and clubs in her 20s Living with parents in their 30s, unable to hold down an LTR, dating abusive men, are all major red flags. This person has major ho…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/23 08:26 AM
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Your boys 2 braincells weren't ready for that You'll get there, trust me. You have the honesty & the balls. Just lacking experience. Just keep going is all I can say. And go to the fkn gym, get in good shape. If you do this as well, 2-3 years from now you'll be amazed as the results you get, with women & it will translate to all other areas in your life as well; and won't recognize your old self.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/23 05:16 PM
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Posts like these are so funny to me now. There was a time I needed to study this. Because I was an autistic, anti-social, unconfident kid. Today, I don't even think about this shit any more when interacting with a woman. 'Is this a shit test?' doesn't even occur to me in the moment anymore, although sometimes afterwards it does, and I just chuckle because it all seems so childish now. The thing is, the only guys who need it laid out like this, from a to z, have bad social calibration and are dor…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/23 05:09 PM
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If you don't understand what makes you sexually excited, you could be misidentifying the feelings. I'd bet that's the case here. I'm talking about men who are attractive AND tall too, btw, men who you are interested in, men who are confident. Especially because she said this. It's not like she's intimidated by height alone because if that were the case it would be a daily issue. She's probably very attracted to this particular guy (because he ticks all the boxes) and misinterpreting the feeling …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/23 02:59 PM
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sorry if I seemed shy, I was nervous but I had a great time and would love to see you again Might even be good to tell him up front/at the beginning of the date you're nervous/shy. Because that's kinda endearing. If you don't, men will absolutely interpret shyness/nerves as disinterest. And especially if you follow up with 'I had a great time', it will confuse him very much because he will interpret it as mixed signals.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/23 07:49 PM
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There's a fine line between getting married too young and wasting your youthful beauty. Getting married to the wrong man at 21 years old, having kids divorcing and becoming a single mom is arguably worse than realizing at 35 your beauty is gone, you're single, your career isn't that extraordinary, you don't have any savings, and you've wasted your 20's chasing fun experiences with nothing to show for it except stories/memories. The thing that's hard about being a woman is that you have to make t…
/r/RedPillWomen21/07/23 03:16 PM
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Didn't read your post, but you wouldn't be here asking this question if you weren't. Women do not respect pussies and they can't be attracted to what they cannot respect.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/23 10:21 AM
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just get used to approaching girls and getting rejected. Terrible mindset. Not going to benefit you much. If you're just approaching and waiting to be blown out, you're not going to learn. You really have to want to win. That's how you learn. By trying to win and recalibrating when you lose. You don't learn shit if you want to get used to losing. You've got it all wrong if you think this is about getting used to rejection. It's not that you shouldn't care when you get rejected. It's that winning…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/23 08:13 AM
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The problem with this lifestyle is you need to cash out before 35. And I think it's only viable if you don't plan on having kids. Compared to a woman who gets married to a high earning man, you're going to have to extract 100's of thousands of $ before 35. Does that sound likely? You'll not only have to be a pro, this will be your full-time job until then and you can't afford slacking off. It might sound nice when you're young but how about 10/20/30/40 years from now? This entire strategy is dep…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/23 08:29 AM
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sugaring is transactional Every relationship is transactional. Marriage is extremely transactional, why else would it involve a contract? Sugaring is just very explicit about the transactional nature of it.
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/23 08:14 AM
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Absolute facts all the way. Hiding behind height is ultimately just a cope for mediocrity. They're just going to have to work harder. My personal experience that I’ve ran into like 6 different times in my experience. And one of them even tried hitting on my gf and made me so jealous I had to mate guard like a bitch. I can relate so much. Because you see this shorter dude talking to your girl and at first you're just amused but the next moment he's smirking at you, she's giggling, and you're like…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/23 12:26 PM
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Desire for money/comfort/security vs desire to get dicked down by a hot guy. Who they give it to for free kind of shows where the true desire is in my opinion. My point is that there is no such thing as 'true desire'. There are desires. Multiple. And sometimes one man can fulfil all those desires, for some time. That's a man women will fight for. But again... even in that scenario, is she truly attracted to you? Or to the desires you fulfil? You were talking about when is her desire for you 'rea…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/23 06:03 PM
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He should've realized much faster that what he is looking for in women is not compatible with her lifestyle. I'm guessing he liked her poontang a bit too much, so he kept doubling down on trying to enforce behaviour in her that wasn't compatible with her lifestyle/personality. Doesn't matter if you're famous, you can't get a fish to climb a tree. She of course could have said: 'that's not who I am and how I want to live' much earlier and that would've been the end of it. But of course, making th…
/r/TheRedPill12/07/23 05:10 PM
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Most women, especially the hot ones, have no emotional attachment to sex It's because sex to them is like breathing air to us. Requires no effort and it's always abundant. You won't understand this until you have high SMV yourself and get to experience just a sliver of this as a man.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 05:52 PM
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You're theory that rich men get cheated on more than non-rich men seems possible in some situations (particularly if the man is rich by luck/family privilege and displays a lot of Beta traits), but I'm highly skeptical your advice can be applied very broadly as there are lots of rich/wealthy men who are absolute Alphas. Right. Rich people are usually trust fund babies, tech geeks or intelligent, business savvy go-getters. Thing is... you can be 'Alpha' but still completely blue pill. It's very s…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 03:58 PM
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If you don’t have enough money, they use you as a vibrator Idk abt you, but I'd rather they use me as a vibrator than a wallet... Transactional money sex lasts forever, but it’s NEVER real Mhmm matter of perspective I guess. It lasts until the money runs out. But is it real if she's after you just based on your looks is the real question? Sure, the desire is real, just like the desire for money is real. But eventually looks fade as well. Fun question I ponder, is she attracted to me or to what I…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 03:51 PM
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I did not said that don’t express your feelings. I said don’t whine. This is it. You can wipe away a tear in front of your girl if you're holding your dog while he's being slept in. Or something else with high emotional impact like that. Just don't start sobbing uncontrollably for 20 minutes. And yeah, don't complain. Not even in your own thoughts.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/23 03:28 PM
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Calling an endorsed contributor a troll boy, lmfao. It leans toward the negative Life is full of negatives & you can try sticking your head in the sand, but not taking accountability means you don't stand a chance finding a decent man. assumes that all men are looking for one type of woman High body count, obesity and masculinity are traits that pretty much all men can agree aren't attractive in women. A great analogy is that although different people can like all kinds of different smells, we c…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 03:20 PM
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Sounds a lot like most men in general. Hence why most men can't get laid.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/23 10:59 AM
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The reason why you can't quit drinking is that you think there's a massive benefit to it. Yep. All boils down to this. The simple truth is that there is no such thing as free will. Humans solely move in the direction they perceive to be most beneficial to them. This is our entire motivational mechanism & the driving factor behind all our actions and behavior. It's also why the narrative that it's hard to drop an addiction is a total fabrication. It's not hard at all, you can actually drop any ad…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/23 10:15 AM
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You’re literally trying to have your cake and eat it too. He's just trying to trick women who are looking for something serious into fcking him without giving up commitment himself. No moralizing in this sub, but I think it's sad af and compromises on your personal integrity. If you're not looking for something serious and they ask you in all sincerity if you're looking for an LTR just tell them the truth and let the pieces fall wherever they may. Most of the time they can tell from your behavio…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/23 06:55 PM
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you are not going to be a match for the women, who will have had MUCH more experience dealing one-on-one with someone else Why? I get that answer if we're talking about some lonely anti-social dude with 0 game. But if OP is a social guy with game who has had multiple long-term FWB he's just never wanted an LTR I don't see how he's going to be 'eaten alive'. Sure, he's going to have to learn a few new things, but you're exaggerating. not ever having had a LTR by your mid-30s is going to be seen a…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/23 06:48 PM
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Thankfully after sex you can revert back to a more stoic presentation, but if you want to fornicate with a girl, you must use your words to entertain her and build attraction. I'm wondering what the opinions on this are? I would agree that generally extroverts hold a significant advantage over introverts, but introvert game can work well too, I believe. I'm not naturally extroverted by any means. It took a shitload of effort to start approaching and being able to turn my 'chatty' dial on/off. To…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/23 07:35 AM
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The main difference between being called a creep and a player is being attractive.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/23 09:16 AM
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It does make sense, you're just not familiar with cultures where this is done because it is a necessity. I know for a fact this happens in Eastern Europe & Thailand. I'm sure the same applies to South American communities. They don't want semi rich foreigners coming in, waving around their $$ and scooping up the high quality women. If you live in a first world country, you don't see this because ain't no dudes from Third World countries coming to take your high quality women.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/23 12:19 PM
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This seems akin to smurfing in silver rank in any competitive videogame. I completely agree. And that is what irks me the wrong way about these posts. The world we are living in today is just FAR more competitive than it ever was. Competition in business to make $$ is global now. People come from other countries to take jobs and houses in your country. There are fewer high quality women. And since the days of traditional marriage are pretty much over, there isn't even a guarantee anymore to get …
/r/TheRedPill13/06/23 06:13 PM
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Overarching statistics do matter They only matter if you're an average guy tbh. Exceptional men are not affected at all by any of the shit GLO talks about. They still get high quality women & make a fuckton of money.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/23 06:05 PM
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Moving to another country just for women is too drastic for my taste. Sure, those countries have other benefits as well, but in the end it's all a game of trade-offs. Money helps a lot tho. Still, in my view, the only reason to leave is if there's not much left for you. If your bond with your family/friends is not particularly strong, or maybe you don't have a lot of family/friends. Moving from a first to a second or Third World country just seems degenerate to me. I genuinely wonder how people …
/r/TheRedPill13/06/23 06:01 PM
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Question: Are you guys really getting the highest quality of women down there? In my experience, the patriarchs in those countries/communities keep the highest quality women away from foreign men. They don't fuck around & they don't want tourists with money snagging the beautiful women. Tourists get the 6s and 7s from poor families, maybe the occasional 8. But 9s and 10s are off limits, as are women from families of higher social standing.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/23 05:52 PM
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Yep... Like another EC once mentioned, stop worrying about labels & leave the LTR talk up to the girl.... Often you will find it comes much later than you'd expect, if at all.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/23 01:55 PM
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Also, she's your ex, you don't have kids with her, so why the fuck do you care what she's doing? Oneitis does not exist in the realms of logic. You can't rationalize yourself out of oneitis because you never used logic to get yourself into that state of mind in the first place. It's everything to do with a shitty mental point of origin, insecurity & scarcity and no amount of self-contemplation will ultimately solve that.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/23 06:53 AM
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An ex-boyfriend once told me I was "wasting my potential". He can f*** right off. MSM BP indoctrination. When I see a 31 yo cute (yet still single & childless) woman at our office working a mid-tier HR job she takes very (too) seriously, that's when I go 'wasted potential'. I can see the road she is heading down & I know that at 40 she's probably not going to be too happy with the choices she made in her late 20s/early 30s.
/r/RedPillWomen03/06/23 09:00 AM
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She manipulated me hard during the 6 months we lived together, and although we did dance and make out a few times we never slept together and she also ended up hooking up with other people while we were at the club together. Basically, she was fucking you for 6 months, but you weren't fucking her. Should've given up after that first month. Like /u/PiperBigBell points out so eloquently, after that the emotional overinvestment becomes too much for your ego & you inevitably spiral into a 'mini depr…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/23 09:00 AM
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Idc what your goals are, exercising will help those goals. Yep. Even men who don't lift respect the discipline of someone that does. That's all you need to know. Just make sure not to look like a juicing meathead, though.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/23 05:42 AM
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You fucked up by him having to ask. You could've put 10 miles between yourself and every other woman by offering to pay for some things every once in a while. Not even 50% of the time or for the expensive dinners, but for small things, like snacks at the cinema. Or buying him small gifts for no reason at all. My ex did this for me, although I got more money than I know what to do with, and she had maybe a few grand to her name at the time working 60hr weeks on her business. We split up for diffe…
/r/RedPillWomen27/05/23 08:25 AM
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I am an 18 year old currently living in Greece, doing pretty well for a guy that just reached adulthood Don't mean to rain on your parade, but you're a kid until you're 23ish. I thought I was a smart mf at 19 but in my mid 20s realized I really didn't know shit until I was 23ish. (And btw most people still don't know shit when they're 40, most are stuck at the maturity level of a 16yo) I got into a LTR before I got my shit together It's not wrong, just realize it will probably end. Try different…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/23 07:18 AM
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He's not in need of support or sugar-coating. This man has taken the Red Pill. Now he's in the anger phase & wishing he could go back to fantasy land. But that's not an option after you've seen reality. Now is the time to fuel the fire in order to push through, lay the old self to rest & rise from the ashes. Sugar-coating & support will only decrease his anger & make it last longer. Which isn't helpful at all.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/23 03:47 PM
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No girl has or ever will approach me just because I'm hanging around and enjoying my own activities like with my 6 ft friends They wouldn't if you were a 6 ft 3 good-looking mfer like me, either. As a general rule of thumb, girls do not approach guys. They drop IOI's to signal you can approach them. Up to you to generate those IOI's, learn to recognize them & have the balls to take the initiative. ​ A mountain I have to climb over U r so full of shit, dude. At least you know what to do. You have…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/23 09:06 AM
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all my friends already have this? I find it very hard to believe that out of your entire friend group, everyone is successful with the ladies except for you. WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT 10 YEARS FOR THIS Ever heard of the concept 'late bloomer'? Welcome to the real world, where most guys don't naturally grow up to be 20 yo, confident, socially calibrated men. A few guys turn out like that 'organically' but most have to grind it out one way or another. And btw, most men don't get into the top 10-20% of…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/23 08:58 AM
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It's not that the gist of what you're saying isn't true, but this type of complaining isn't helpful. I've seen countless girls in podcasts like Kevin Samuels, Whatever, etc who mention the fact that they have dozens of guys "sliding in their DMs" and paying for their only fans, etc and it makes them believe they are much more unique and special than they actually are Trashiest of girls. Not all are like that. And even if 90% was like that, go figure out how to get that 10% of quality girls, ther…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/23 06:46 AM
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Single mothers with 3 kids, no self awareness, swiping through tinder: they don’t despair about whether they are good people. Absolutely true. Could always be much worse. I’m just saying to STOP WITH THE NEGATIVE SELF-TALK. Hear hear. Focus on what you can control & improve.
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/23 11:58 AM
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Men don’t have a wall. 'The wall' as a concept is mainly about fertility & beauty. The former is a non-issue for men & the latter is much less important in terms of SMV. For men, the challenge is raising their SMV above a certain threshold, so that they are widely regarded as a desirable partner and consequently have plentiful options. A majority of men will not at any point in their life fall into that category. A theory that gets stated often is that “valuable partners get into committed relat…
/r/RedPillWomen20/05/23 08:43 AM
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The language at TRP is deliberately designed to break women's power over men. It is deliberately harsh because it has to be to go against men's protective instincts towards women. Precisely. Which is something most women are not accustomed to at all, and understandably so find very off-putting.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/23 02:31 PM
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I'm saying all this because you won't see this in the modern man. Not in most. to be as strong minded and productive as the old men once were. You really think so? Hate to smash your illusions, but I think it's a classic case of rose colored glasses. The majority of men have always been unproductive losers and a small minority the leaders, visionaries & extremely productive. Yes, men have become more effeminate in modern society, but the 80/20 rule was already true way back when. Like others hav…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/23 07:28 AM
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Damn. We got back together and then she ended it again last week, since she couldn't get over her "pride" of getting with a dude who broke her heart in such a way. I get that. It would never be the same. I had an opportunity to leech of her and her family as a beta buck, and probaby would've lived a pretty fine life. But I can't shake the tint of these red glasses. Shit similar to this is what got into my head. Some situation arises that seemingly goes against RP theory & we start creating doom …
/r/TheRedPill16/05/23 11:12 AM
1

After this I didn't eat for 4 days. I had suicidal thoughts for probably the first time in my life. I didn't just beg, I pleaded, called, cried, manipulated her with memories, thought of sending her flowers, I even contacted her father to apologize and thank him for everything the family did for me. Her ass muste've really been something... How are you holding up these days? Still regret and thinking you fucked up? I'm in a similar boat myself.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/23 04:07 PM
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Not intimidated by others frames, some people have the ability to be sure of them selves in ground of anyone Some people are very good actors, you don't know what's happening inside their head This kind of absolute, true self-confidence can only be cultivated by having worked through all your psychological/spiritual issues & by having surmounted many of life's obstacles, resulting in absolute trust in yourself & your capabilities. It's incredibly unlikely to achieve this while you're still young…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/23 01:26 PM
3

Don’t shit where you eat. Been pondering this a lot lately & I think it depends. On your age, your position, how career focused you are, on the seniority difference, how long you plan on staying with the company etc. While I don't think it's optimal, it's not necessarily all bad. Wouldn't recommend both of you staying with the same company if things become very serious, though.
/r/RedPillWomen11/05/23 04:20 PM
3

Guys who are critical & cautious of marriage for a variety of reasons feel similar about children. Children are very expensive pieces of furniture that will be your #1 priority in life for 20 years. Combine that with the fact you have to find a good partner (mother) to make/raise them & how stupid the educational system is & tries to brainwash them to become BP slaves... Kids can be born retarded/stupid, grow up to be bullies/assholes, alcohol/drug addicts, depressed, suicidal, criminal etc etc.…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/23 02:30 PM
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