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I can cum through g-spot stimulation but only ever with a rotating mr bunny. Otherwise only clitorial. So, much rarer and sure it feels good but not AS good. So sorry, still have to do the work ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:59 PM
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Nope. As a general rule men pose a bigger threat to women than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:47 PM
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That’s exactly what I didn’t say. I said “women as a group”, meaning a generalisation. Not every single individual woman. Same for “men as a group”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:30 PM
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You know why it makes sense. Men hit, rape, assault and kill women way more often than the other way around. Men are stronger. A pretty weak man could often overpower a pretty fit woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:52 PM
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Very sound takes. Except female fertility starts declining around 35 but massively into our 40s. And apparently male fertility too, except it only takes a massive hit ten years later…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:23 AM
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There’s a difference between what you’re saying and what he said. Women as a group are not a threat to men. Men as a group can be a threat to women. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t murderous women and that a majority of men aren’t ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:17 AM
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Red pill take: dating/ mating preferences don’t make you a bigot. Iow You have no obligation to date anyone you don’t find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:14 AM
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We're note pretending to be high libido. During the "falling in love"'-stage we DO have high libidos. It diminishes over time though, some of it because we are no longer in a passionate phase, some of it because the obligations of housework that mostly falls on women are exhausting, some of it hormonal, and if we have children, some of it because we are tired and fed up with our bodies not belonging to us anymore (pregnancy, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, carrying, and when they get older climbing …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:28 AM
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Unless, god forbid, women were more promiscuous than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:39 AM
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Sure, there are things that are easier for good looking people, but we play in the same league him and I. (Although I’ve dated men way below my league and never has money played a role except when I was 17-20 and was starting my journey towards becoming an adult and thought it was cool to date men who had their own appartement and an income (no matter how high)).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:47 PM
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No, I've been with him for 15 years. We've been poor. Right now he's the breadwinner, but hasn't always been. For years, I ran the company that gave us our (meager) income. This is how most couples I know work. They take turns. Edit to say: It might be relevant here to point out that he was actually unemployed when we started dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:28 AM
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I’d rather live in the gutters with my husband than have guaranteed financial security. Although I doubt we’d be our best selves in the gutters though ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:32 PM
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What the f are you talking about? I’m late then x or early millennial depending on how you count. I’m also a radical feminist. I don’t know a single woman who loathes men. I do however know lots of women, me included, who aren’t as interested in sex after having children. It probably a combo of exhaustion, being tired of not owning your body to yourself anymore (breastfeeding, children climbing all over you, working physically to keep the home clean AND maintenance sex) and also probably hormone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:25 PM
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Women who have gone through relationships know more and more what their type is and , from experience, which men to avoid completely. For us, better be single than “settle” for the type of men we know to avoid simply because we know it tends not to work out. Sure, we might be wrong about someone, but we know ourselves and we know whom we tend to match well with but even more so, whom we clash with. Mistakes have been made that we do not wish to repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:47 AM
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That's a bit of an oversimplification... sure, there might be a "style" of listening more inherent to each gender but in my relationship, it's the opposite. My husband does the "just listening to", while I tend to go for the solution focused-stuff. Which he doesn't always want or need. I mean, sometimes you want advise, sometimes you just need to be listened to and empathized with. Anyhow, most of us are adaptable human beings that can take another person's style of listening for what it is and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:52 AM
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What wonderful parents you have! Happy for you👌🏼
/r/ExRedPill23/05/21 03:35 PM
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Although I do agree with most of what you said before, I disagree on the sex part. You absolutely should never feel forced to have sex with your partner, but as my libido is way lower than my partner’s (after having five kids and all the household stress that comes with) I do have sex with him even though I don’t feel like it a few times a week. I love my husband and we have an equal partnership and I wish my libido was like it used to but as long as it’s not, it feels like a loving thing to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:28 AM
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You can succeed in your endeavours or you can fail. Just because a woman isn’t thin doesn’t mean she’s not trying super hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:55 PM
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The Amber Heard story was widely used here as proof that women abused men as much as men abused women... and that women lie about abuse. There’s that...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:56 PM
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41yof. I haven't met any cheaters in years... neither men nor women. The clostest I can come is a friend who had sex with a man a year after her divorce and lied about it not to hurt the man she had divorced. He found out about it and was devestated. But she wasn't cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 10:00 AM
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40F here with very high n-count but happily married and faithful for 13years. So I was 27 when I met the love of my life. He had a way lower n-count but was no virgin. I don’t think I would’ve cared. I had been with male virgins before and was totally fine with it... not very judgmental, hence the high n-count, hehe...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:43 PM
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True
/r/ExRedPill05/04/21 10:03 PM
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It also seems to confirm women and men can be really good friends and other things that are very non-RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:44 PM
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” A gift economy or gift culture is a mode of exchange where valuables are not sold, but rather given without an explicit agreement for immediate or future rewards.[1] Social norms and customs govern gifting in a gift culture, gifts are not given in an explicit exchange of goods or services for money, or some other commodity or service.[2] This contrasts with a barter economy or a market economy, where goods and services are primarily explicitly exchanged for value received.” Source: Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:27 PM
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Except in a gift economy utopia, you expect something back but not necessarily from the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 12:50 PM
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Lol! So you saw right through me? I do befriend and platonically care about men in order to brag about it on PPD. By the way, never said men don’t do it. Men can be awesome friends to both men and women. The people that take turns helping the guy I’m referring to are me, two other women and one man, who absolutely is equal to the women in being a carer. Interesting fact: My husband is really the one who’s closer to him, and had been his emotional support in the beginning, but once I spoke to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 07:59 AM
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Oh ok. I’ve just been on suicide watch for two of my male friends. I’m married and have no interest in anything else than friendship from them. I have on numerous occasions been an unpaid shrink, personal grocery shopper, carer and just plain shoulder to cry on for multiple men over the years, some that were all alone, some not. At the moment I have spent countless hours helping one come to terms with his divorce, driving (an hour and a half each way) to his place and sitting for hours to make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 07:22 PM
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Yes, it’s terrible! Who am I going to do the hypergamy thing with now?
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 06:37 PM
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Haha! I am/ have been all of those. TIL I’m as undesirable as it gets...
/r/ExRedPill11/03/21 01:02 PM
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So it’s better not to make an effort and guarantee not to be successful? Or did I misunderstand your point?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 01:52 PM
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You realise that intercourse ends with an orgasm for men more often than it does for women. Yet women still want to have sex with men. Where does that fit in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:57 AM
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Most women I know, myself included, sleep with men way beneath their league... and in their league and sometimes above their league...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:42 PM
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As we all know, fatherlessness is always the mother’s fault. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:39 PM
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Just anecdotal... my n-count it pretty huge, yet I am now (for 13 years) married to my soulmate and have five kids... only four are his, so I was even a single mom when we met!
/r/ExRedPill12/01/21 06:52 PM
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I read what you wrote, I know what you were trying to say. You were trying to prove that women are not frail creatures that have a reason to fear men while at the same time describing a women getting her face punched in. It’s not a f—ng obsession with infantilising ourselves, it’s just that we are constantly victimised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:16 PM
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Your example is supposed to counter the fact that women have something to fear? Sure, she could’ve been fine. She could also have been laughing in chock. Either way, this kind of proves the point that some men take rejection very aggressively.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:55 PM
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The lowest common denominator in who acts aggressively towards us, has nothing to do with race, culture or religion. The lowest common denominator is sex. Black men aren’t more likely to be aggressive towards us than white guys. They’re both guys. That is the risk element.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:51 PM
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How do you know all of these women were lying though? It’s very common for women to be accused of lying when they accuse a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:34 PM
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We’are not treating all men like they’re assholes, we’re taking precautions not to accidentally piss one off. On the one hand we’re supposed to know not to choose a certain type of partner (see above in the “she should’ve known better”), on the other hand we’re not allowed to be cautious in rejecting someone? Sometimes It feels like guys here think women are psychic. That’s cool and all but, unfortunately way too few of us are...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:32 PM
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Don’t you see how what you just said is a teeeny bit victim blaming-ish? No? Like don’t you think that she would probably not have chosen that person had she been able to see into the future? Wife beaters don’t usually come with labels...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:26 PM
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Sometimes women just want sex. It’s kind of counter productive to hold out on a ONS. Sometimes we want more and sometimes that means getting to know an interesting one partner before consuming the relationship. Or making sure he knows what a cool person she is before he gets sex. Generally I wouldn’t say I’be had a problem with it, but there is a double standard about easy sex, and some women are worried about being judged...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:10 PM
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" Would you be open to talking to your daughters about sex? Would you be willing to allow her to go on birth control in her teens? " Yes, but then again I'm a swede ;-) I already have frank conversations with my 19 year old about safe sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 09:22 PM
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So true!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:34 PM
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You really don’t give women much agency, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:50 PM
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Because it's so hard to negotiate about masculinity? We've negotiated our way out of our traditional roles plenty, how come women have fought more to get out and work than men have to go home and take care of the house and kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 02:23 PM
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My gut answer would be women. Women consume culture aimed at men, both genders and at women (eg books/ films with male or female protagonists). Men do not generally consume as much culture aimed at women only (as in romance/ chic lit etc...) Also, we’ve been conditioned to wanting a life partner, which tends to make us want to understand our partner, so that we can fall in love and live happily ever after. What you’re talking about, “getting women” treats women as something mechanical, where you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:21 PM
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Second that. Women usually have to excel way beyond their Malé counterparts to get the same amount of praise/recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:11 PM
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Yes, my point exatly. If you think women are bad for going on a date for free food (and company), then men are bad for pretending to want something more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:37 PM
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The audit is supposed to be mutual. But in your universe, women can get whomever they want whenever they want. That's not how it works in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:51 AM
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Ok, I did not know that. However, people can sub to things for different reasons, not only because they agree with what is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:20 AM
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OR guys spend more time at home online, with people who think exactly like they do (=other guys) and less time offline hence they do not get anough practice socializing. Its way too comfortable socializing behind a screen where you risk absolutely nothing. (Yes, women are guilty of this too, although I think to a lesser extent but that is only based on what I see, not on any stats sp feel free to correct me)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:19 AM
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FDS is an anti-feminist sub, pseudo female empowerment sub with homo- and transphobic undertones. Many of the non-RP people on here are feminists. Your argument doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:10 AM
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It depends. It could be just sex, it could be a relationship. But it is supposed to be an audit for wether or not one of those things will happen. Some men are known to go on dates and pretend to want something else, when they just want sex. I think that's the parallell here...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:07 AM
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But were they consistent or was one sex more entitled outside of the sex act and one more entitled during? Because if men felt less entitled regardless I would assume the same factors are influencing their answers either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:34 PM
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Sure. Just saying that if you tend to get pleasure either way, it’s more of a non issue, before or during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:28 PM
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I don’t know how that would differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:06 PM
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Well yes, obviously. But whereas a man could reach orgasm simply by getting consent (and actually having sex after the consent is given of course), a woman needs a partner who is wiling to let her enjoy herself. Either by actively stimulating her or by facilitating her doing it herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:05 PM
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I’ve never, ever chosen a partner because of presumed penis size. That’d be stupid as it is completely unpredictable. I have a friend who loves short men. By your logic, she’d chose them for their presumed small penises?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:25 PM
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What does that have to do with penis size?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:29 PM
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You’re absolutely right that both men and women penalise eachother for not conforming to gender norms. That is what feminists call patriarchy. And women uphold patriarchal standards as well, we are rewarded for doing so. But women =/= feminists:) I am not aware of feminists denying men can be raped, in fact it is a feminist fight for redefining rape that allowed men to be included as victims as well...
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 12:22 PM
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Funny! I’m a woman and a LOT of these ”everyone knows women do XYZ” are completely idiotic. I think I have had way more heterosexual sex as a woman than men “knowing what women want” have. I do know what gives me pleasure. I also know what gives my girl friends pleasure. Stop “knowing” and ask us!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:18 PM
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Patriarchy keps men in check too, unfortunately... which is why you see men aren’t rewarded for breaking away from certain aspects of masculinity. Feminism is about freedom from restricted gender roles for both sexes. I understand your experience differs from that? But just know that women fighting for equality entails positive change for men too, at least men who aren’t stuck in the traditional roles. Like if a woman fights for her right to go out and work, she also fights for men’s opportuniti…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/20 11:29 AM
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Also, men can ”take” the pleasure they want from intercourse. I don’t mean that in a rapey way, just that he can make himself come by using his partner’s body independent on how much else the partner is doing. Women need cooperation to reach an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:38 AM
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Well yes, but if you are very likely to orgasm during sex, the question of whether or not you are entitled to pleasure during the act is less important and also has gotten a negative ring for men because of the incel-version. So you have nothing to lose by saying you do not expect pleasure as you are likely to get it anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:34 AM
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Do you still think penetration is what gives women orgasms? Penis size doesn’t have a lot to do with our pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:33 AM
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Just want to add that usually, not always, in a sexual encounter between a man and a woman, the man gets an orgasm and that concludes the act. Hence, no need to even think about “entitlement to sexual pleasure”. The same is not the case for the woman. Her orgasm entirely depends on her partner OR on her sense of entitlement to sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:30 AM
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Yes he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 01:50 PM
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I won't even comment on the lack of scientific value in this. Just came here to say: there's a time for having fun and there's a time for settling down. Sometimes you might even be ready to settle down but the person you're destined for just hasn't showed up. There's no reason for not having fun while waiting... I have a very high n-count yet am in a great, happy, harmonious (as much as possible with small kids) monogamous marriage. We've been together for 13 years and never doubted we found the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:32 PM
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I failed to keep my promise. How do you just quit when someone is so infuriating and uninformed LOL...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:36 PM
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You are just disingenuous and I can’t help but say one last thing. Clearing the sidewalks does not exclude clearing the roads but before this policy, which btw according to your article wasn’t upheld, the opposite was true. Clearing the roads came at the expense of sidewalks. If your perfect world consists of men driving to work and women being housewives then you are saying you would like policies to benefit men over women. Men have to be able to drive in cars to work (as opposed to taking the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:30 PM
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So many points that are just not as valid as you think. Yes, cars move people around faster but so effing what? Cars are also polluting much worse, which was the main point of putting more focus than previously done on snow removal on sidewalks and bikeways. Yes, men can be raped by women. Women can penetrate men for example digitally. They can also force oral sex. I am not opposing Gilette’s Message, but obviously the execution was done poorly and it is always a risk when companies that want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 06:21 PM
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Here's another link you won't click about the Gilette ad and "woke" brands. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/1/15/18184072/gillette-toxic-masculinity-ad-super-bowl-feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 11:28 AM
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Thanks. I just wish one of them would just learn how to read with an open mind. But the reply I sent now will be the last! I swear ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:27 AM
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I won’t bother anymore since you don’t read or bother to understand the content of your own links. Gender equal snow clearing was about not only clearing the roads, as it was hard to move around when snow clearing shoved snow onto pavements and biking paths. Don’t link Swedish policy to a swede who knows exactly what happened. The link about Kim says explicitly "The project had actually been conceived, written and edited by men. But because I’m a female director, it fitted neatly into a troll’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:25 AM
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No, of course feminism has influenced policies, including a lot of policies benefitting men (thanks to feminism the definition of rape was broadened to include men as victims as just one example), but you have got to be joking if you think feminists are the ones in power... The commercial for Gilette was not made by a feminst, neither was Ghostbusters (I have no opinion on either by the way, so I don’t care about how unsuccessful they were). They were made to cater to an audience they thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:04 PM
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My point is that, as the article says, people have had prejudice against feminism, since it has been slandered and purposefully misunderstood for decades by people such as yourself, but of course more importantly by people with more power, comfortable with the status quo. Men AND women. It’s not a coincidence that working class women are less likely to want to brand themselves with a word that the people will look down upon them for using. They have way more to lose. Also, you seem to think femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:55 PM
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Again, from your own article: “Having interviewed a diverse group of young German and British women for my research, I found associations of the term "feminism" with man-hating, lesbianism or lack of femininity was a key factor in rejections of the label "feminist". The majority said they did not want to call themselves feminist because they feared they would be associated with these traits. This was despite many stressing they were not homophobic and some identifying as lesbian or bisexual.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:25 PM
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Oh right! So the the feminists are the ones in power! And they choose policies that contradict their own beliefs. Let’s not criticize the policies, let’s criticize the movement that has sane values that are contradicted by said values. What? I hope you understand the difference between a gilette commercial, Hollywood movies and a political movement. I also hope a movement losing support doesn’t mean it stands for something other than what it stands for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:21 PM
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Feminism is a range of social movements, political movements, and ideologies that aim to define and establish the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.[a][2][3][4][5] Feminism incorporates the position that societies prioritize the male point of view, and that women are treated unjustly within those societies.[6] Efforts to change that include fighting against gender stereotypes and establishing educational, professional, and interpersonal opportunities and outcomes fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:41 AM
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The diffrence is, the so called criticism of feminism isn't based on knowledge about feminism, but on prejudice. You can't take what random women say and call it feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:38 AM
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As usual, a non feminist tells a feminist scholar (I have a masters degree in gender science) what feminism is and isn't about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 11:09 AM
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Is daily mail your scientific source for your view on gender roles. Obviously, some women are content with being a traditional woman, a lot believe it is not enough and want the freedom to do whatever they choose to. There's no opposition there. If e person believes she can surpass her own biology, that's on her. No feminist ever said she could.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:22 PM
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See feminism is actually about giving equal opportunity hence allowing women to be breadwinners and men to be at-home-dads... If you read your own link you can find it here: "One study found that the effect is mediated by increased gender equality. The mediation comes not from differences in attitudes towards women. But in attitudes towards men. In more egalitarian societies, people have more positive attitudes towards men than in less egalitarian societies.[6]"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 05:48 PM
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As a woman: it depends on what the meaning behind the compliment is. If there's nothing objectifying/ sexual behind it, I feel like everyone else: happy but pretending not to agree so that I appear to be humble and unaware of my looks (although, now that I'm older I am much more in line with my own insecurities. I don't feel irresistible anymore :-D). When getting compliments on my looks from strangers it feels like I'm this thing that is being observed and graded. At the same time, women are ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:28 AM
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I was not opposing it. I was saying a system in which male privilege exists can still encompass men "not having it easy". There are other aspects that also dictates the direction of your life. Eg class, race, religion, age, sexuality and of course your basic personality. So in a society where male privilege exists, men don't always win. If we're talking about a job interview, for example, a woman can get the job over male applicants but as a rule (and this is the most important aspect) she will …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:43 AM
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A man has it easy =/= male privilege. Maybe read up on what these privileges entail and ask yourself: could a man be subject to male privilege yet still not "have it easy" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:27 PM
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I'd be willing to bet 1,000 internet bucks the actual definition of toxic masculinity has been explained to you, but you actively chose to ignore it. I did try to explain it to someone here once or twice. It 's never well recieved. My god, I mean if you want to know what feminism is, ask a feminist. If you want to know how women think ask a woman, even better, ask a few. Don't just think things up and decide your thoughts are reality... On the swedish version of reddit (called Flashback) there w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:24 PM
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Completely agree! I’ve been in love with all sorts of men, some of them handsome, some of them not so much. Humour is almost the same as good looks for example. Making you feel special in a confident way, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:02 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 07:01 AM
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No it isn’t. What feminists say is exactly what the first commenter said. But it’s so important for you to be anti-feminist that you aren’t willing to hear that message.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:55 AM
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I am aware. However, in a relationship, other things, like intimacy and lov,e might motivate you whereas this is usually not a factor in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:34 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:26 AM
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Also, there is an orgasm imbalance in casual sex. Casual sex usually end with men getting one, but not necessarily women...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 06:24 AM
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Not american but of course not. Feminism is what supports me and my rights and allowed me to have choices. Feminsim is trying to do the same for men, liberate them from preconcieved gender roles that hurt them. The point is to be liberates from constraints. Both for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:51 AM
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That is only true if you don’t see women as equals. It’s about power. If you see a potential partner as your equal, having someone who knows what she is doing could only be a plus. Virgins of both sexes tend to not know what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:10 PM
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Having a Hugh n-count had nothing to do eith what your intentions are with that particular encounter. If I, as a woman, pretend to be interested in a monogamous relationship that I have no intention of keeping THAT is the bad behaviour, not how many poeple I have skeptiska with before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 08:06 PM
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False equivalence no? I mean women doing the same would be promising something they have no intention of keeping... a high n-count has nothing to do with intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:27 PM
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I would have thought gettig someone with experience would mean a much more enjoyable sex life... I don’t know about you but the sex I ‘ve had with virgins haven’t been amongst the greatest sexual experiences... probably the same for men...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:25 PM
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Actually yes, do talk to me like I’m another guy, It’s great to feel respected and liked as a human being. Nothing more sexy! Unless the way you talk to guys is full of sexist jargon, then please don’t talk to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 11:55 PM
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That's an article about teenage girls. Also: "Our findings suggest that in the different European secondary schools studied, a similar pattern of attraction is recognized by female participants: although non-violent boys are highly preferred to those with a violent profile, we observed that boys with violent attitudes and behaviours are mostly preferred for hooking up, and boys with non-violent traits are mostly preferred for stable relationships. " So girls might prefer violent boys for ONS but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:47 PM
4

Thank you for this. I completely agree. As a 40 year old woman who was once young and very sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:55 AM
1

Hitler = kind of like slam poetry? Gay as hell men = get pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:45 AM
2

Maybe they didn't need them to get into a physical fight over them to begin with...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:37 PM
6

You're saying overly emotional women don't get abandoned? Give me a f----g break! That was the worst thing you could do as a girl. No guys wanted a girl who was too emotional. Wasn't worth the hassle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:36 PM
2

So women over the age of 45 end up alone and miserable because nobody wants them? I thought that was only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:29 PM
6

I was 27 when we met. I was not less forgiving with my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:22 PM
6

Same here. My husband and I have shared a lot of difficulties but he's also faced some of his own, particularily with regards to his health. I would have left him within six months if women chickened out when men showed their sensitive sides. But we've been together thirteen years. In fact, a lot of women I know have helped their man through some rough shit, if not most...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:21 PM
2

From 1995... Did you have to go back a quater of a century? Plus, there's no cause and effect? Maybe women who are unhappier have more sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:29 AM
4

Science says? Science doesn't say anything is best in a void. Best for what? For whom? For cwhich partner? Which woman gets the best man? Which woman is happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:30 AM
1

Mostly I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:25 AM
1

You’re comparing a bit of fun wth deadly diseases why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:07 PM
3

Or that take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:48 PM
2

Yes, I’m a lady and I wasn’t even born a virgin! /s (obviously!)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:46 PM
1

I am from Malmö. It is not a dangerous place except for gangs. It has to do with poverty, not race nor religion. Also, we f——Ng oppress people. Where do you think we get our cheap as H&M clothes made???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:56 AM
0

Sweden’S rise in sexual crimes rose when the definition of rape was altered and more inclusive. Also, the more sexual violence is talked about, the safer it is for women to come forward. Sexual violence is a category with huge under reported incidents. Hell, I’ve been raped twice and didn’t report it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:51 AM
1

No, there is a conscious wave from the alt right to try to paint Sweden as this criminal paradise since we let more peoples in 2015 than most other European countries. They want to make Sweden an example of what a bad idea it is to allow people who are fleeing war zones and misery to try and get a better, safer, life in western countries. It’s just bs. I am born in Malmö, my mom still lives there. It’s depicted as this hellhole on earth. There have been shootings, all gang related, one terrible …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:46 AM
1

So you’re seeing with your own eyes but since you’re biracial you are allowed to judge whether it’s ok or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:35 AM
2

Except for all the exceptions. Also except if they don’t have other non-whites (and lower ranking whites) to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:33 AM
1

You know ”Europe” is not one big country right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:31 AM
1

You had me until Sweden. We have no more of a respirator crisis that other nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:44 PM
2

Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:27 PM
-1

I guess if you’re not looking forward to reading her texts you’re really not that interested...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:09 PM
-1

Whaaat? That’s a lot of assumptions. Although being poor, which is something single mothers are at risk of being/ becoming, isn’t great for parenting as it means you get less time with your child... if you’re going to work two or three jobs it’s probably not going to be easy to raise a child as well as you’d have wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:39 PM
1

This is somewhat true. However you can have a happy marriage for ten years and then have it fail for growing apart and it doesn’t mean it was a bad idea..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:55 AM
2

Good life ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:01 PM
2

What grossed you out? Just curious... my experience with OLD is 15 years back. Some guys were just after sex despite me writing I wasn’t looking for that, even got an offer to get paid for sex. But no dickpics around that time AND I met my husband and soulmate there :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:58 PM
4

Haha, I would say the opposite! You do need a gardener in times of war.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 07:30 PM
1

No, ”niceguys” are guys who think of themselves as being nice but aren’t. I honestly don’t care why... they’re not that way because they’ve endured abuse and terrible things. They are frustrated because they think they’re entitled to sex (because they’re nice guys) and are not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:23 PM
1

Well calling someone names for following their true nature just doesn’t make sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:18 PM
5

I think it’s brave to write things that make you look like an asshole!
/r/ExRedPill27/03/20 08:13 PM
1

May I remind you that the person who coined the term incel was a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:52 PM
7

There are plenty of years to live after the age of thirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:51 PM
3

Are you kidding me? There are so many women who don’t get laid. They just don’t go postal over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:45 PM
3

When you say “equally detrimental”, it sounds like it’s almost impossible to find a women as a short guy. I don’t disagree that it might be a handicap (in terms of getting sex/ love), I am guilty of falling for super tall men (my husband is 6’6). But I have slept with short men, My best friend loves short men and I see short men in relationships/ marriages everywhere. It is not “detrimental”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:43 PM
1

And why would a woman with many partners be called a slut? I mean if most of them aren’t sex addicts yet choose to have many partners, it must mean that it’s an inherently natural thing for women to want?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:38 PM
1

You mean they don’t have to, that’s why more women than men attend the easy courses like medical school? And law school? From 2017 on women outnumber men in both, granted by a very slim margin but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:33 PM
1

And the nice guys in the nice guy sub armrest nice? No, they are assholes and how is that working out for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:29 PM
1

No it hasn’t. There are an extremely small likelihood that an individual case of rape will even be brought to court and in court, it’s very unlikely to amount to a conviction, especially if the woman isn’t an ideal victim. Gender quotas are sometimes in place to choose the under represented gender when candidates have similar qualifications. Same thing where men are under represented. It doesn’t go just one way...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:28 PM
1

What rights do we lobby to remove?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 09:03 AM
6

Taking care of a man's child =/= not work. Got it. Doing unpaid labour = just giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 09:02 AM
2

I don't see the hate in that particular comment. Granted, I can't see any of the others, but the one you are refering to is pretty logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 08:57 AM
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Don’t bring that up here, the male suicide thing is only used when it benefits the MRA narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:37 AM
6

What the actual f is a slut then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:36 AM
0

No, the nice guy subreddit is about men who think they are nice but really aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:26 AM
1

What is not often discussed is that the jackasses are usually nice in the beginning...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:43 AM
3

Why would you have to do that? Regardless your thinking you could attract Yong women with additional money despite you actually not liking women at all... scientific studies actually show that giving a fuck about other people increase happiness. It would also make you a more agreeable person to women, so there ‘s that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:52 PM
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Haha! Maybe...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:43 PM
1

You might as well be. Sorry but you all talk womanbashing, hard to tell you apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:23 PM
2

Good point /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:21 PM
2

Which is probably way more expensive and losing not only one but two parents is way more traumatic to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:21 PM
1

There are other things at play in society, you know. Like demands from work, to always be available, the messages of a capitalist society saying ”buy,buy,buy”... the impossible task of finding life balance... usually people don’t burn out from having too many partners to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:19 PM
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Came here to say this ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:15 PM
4

Why would you care? Hmm... maybe because of a thing called empathy, wanting good things to happen to people especially if they have been limited before. Like being a decent human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:12 PM
1

Funny, another trper on this forum was adamant about the rates going down, just to prove women have nothing to bitch about. Now rates have gone up, but of course it has to do with women getting autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:09 PM
3

Excuse me what???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:07 PM
4

What about the kid? Are you against welfare for poor kids then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:01 PM
0

Actually no, women don’t often do this. It happens but guess what... men do it too. At almost equal rates!!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:00 PM
1

You take one example from one camp and one from the other it can easily be interpreted as a comparison.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/20 10:24 AM
3

I am a Swedish feminist and I don’t mind sexbots. Also, daily mail...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:15 AM
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I don’t mind sexbots, they’re fine (as long as there’s no research showing someone gets hurt from it) Maybe from as environmental perspective it’s more carbon efficient to use your hand though ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:13 AM
1

I refuse to think such misandrist thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:57 AM
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As I said, I am not commenting on anything but that comparison...
/r/ExRedPill15/03/20 08:59 AM
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That girls would have sex with anyone in the way a guy wants to is of course not a great belief to have. Like feeling entitled to sex... but why hypergamy? That just tells guys we’ll move on to a better male as soon as we can get one. No? Am I missing something? A lot of the people talking about hypergamy DO seem quite... you know just a tad misogynistic;) No, I don’t. But since most of my relationships have gone without beings cheated on, I don’t see the point in “knowing” men are polygynous...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:43 AM
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I am only talking about the comparison, nothing else. You can’t compare paying for a date to having sex. One you can do reluctantly and forget about it soon after, doing the other reluctantly has far more lasting and deeper consequences.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/20 09:47 PM
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It might have been if there was an objective male/ female nature. But, for example, exactly how does the concept of hypergamy help you get laid or a LTR? Doesn’t it just make you resentful? And being resentful is not very attractive... I can only imagine, if I was convinced that male nature was to not settle for one woman, that they’d always want more than just me, I wouldn’t trust men at all and that would definitely hamper my relationships with them... instead I’ve experienced very little infi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:43 PM
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Not really. They just want a certain type of men, (which I don’t agree with) but reluctantly spending your money on going on a date is not the same as reluctantly having to sleep with someone you weren’t attracted to just because he spent money on you.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/20 09:27 PM
1

Ok, so tell me... when is it helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:39 PM
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Ok. But since people differ so much, isn’t just easier to navigate socially if you see people as the individuals that they are, and learn from there. I mean sure, there’s a baseline, like most human beings like being seen for who they are, respected and liked... but other than that we’re all individuals. And trying to group together an extremely large group of people, eg by gender, is almost always going to give you a flawed perspective. Edit: I mean someone’s “nature” is a mix of genetics, upbr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:57 AM
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So, when you say "men's nature" you mean a specific kind of man. A younger man, specifically wanting only to get laid. That excludes a whole lot of men. Maybe don't talk about men's nature if you only mean a particular group of them. Same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:36 AM
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Yes, of course. Most women are doing both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:34 AM
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I would agree with you if it’s just a few times and just the dishes. However if it’s year after year and not only the dishes but also the responsibility over the children, the vacuuming, the cooking and that you voice your concerns over and over and your partner doesn’t make an effort then... Don’t think we’re going to come to an agreement on this. I find your view quite immature, but maybe you just haven’t been living with a partner for a long period of time and so it would be hard for you to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:17 PM
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Well, I would just expect men to want results and a happier, more satisfying life. And you know what? A few years ago we started a discussion group. I started a female one, my husband an all male. It was supposed to be like a mastermind group for discussing projects and career stuff which we women did. The men though, they didn’t talk about that at all even if it was their stated purpose. They talked about their feelings, their divorces, their new partners... and they loved it. So I would say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:06 PM
2

So who’s going to do the dishes? Nobody?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:58 PM
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If you’re not invested in making a relationship work, I’m sorry but that’s not love. That’s keeping a partner so that you can get your needs met. I.o.w. Convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:12 PM
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I don’t like FDS, as I am a feminist and think women should be autonomous and not dependent on men. However, there is a difference in the severity of tone and less of a AMALT- feeing. Also, what I would expect when a bunch of dudes get together an discuss women is to talk about their actual experiences, encourage each other and give each other tips that work while still being respectful. Both of each other and of the gender they are trying to get sex and/or relationships from. Instead of discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:10 PM
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Well, if you read my post of before, I am not saying men ARE like this. I’m saying context is everything. You’re saying the person who puts in the most effort loves more, then decide that the only way to measure it is through norms quitting. What about the actual work you put into the relationship before it goes rancid? What about the partner who won’t make an effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:03 PM
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It kind of is. Look at it this way. Let’s say, hypothetically, that a woman was being super nice to her husband and he kept on beating her. She tried on and on to make it work because she loved him so, but then he started beating their child too. The husband never stopped “loving” his wife but she stopped once he started going after their children. Would you say that his love was more true? Now this was just an extreme. Most of the times this is not the case. But of course context matters. If on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:28 PM
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So why is it even interesting when we live in such an unnatural world anyways, and people can and want to control these so called natural urges? I mean when female hypergamy is discussed it’s rarely in a moderate fashion the way you describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:21 PM
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It can be argued many things. Like men may not apply themselves or listen to their partner as well causing women to get over the relationship while men don’t have the same complaints about their women. I am not saying this IS how it is in all relationships but it’s a reasonable explanation. This is how it was in my first marriage, and I know many women who are frustrated with some things that never change like a more equal sharing of chores, or an emotionally absent partner. But unlike you, desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:13 PM
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Hard to say (last time I was in any type of school was about 13 years ago too so...). I mean looking for love, very few, and I was always looking for love. I’d have to look at several classes. But I don’t see that differing in guys, I mean I used to be a 8, at least, and not every guy wanted to sleep with me... When it came to sex though I wasn’t as picky and could find something attractive in guys that were not typically good looking. I have slept with guys that were 3:s that I found funny and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:05 PM
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And how do you decide if something is a natural instinct? Or a fact for that matter? And if she can (and mostly does) control it, why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:23 PM
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Yes, but there isn’t any harsh judgment on guys’ polygyny, now is there? What I have difficulty understanding is how RP take these de facto theories as truths when they are only true for some men and some women. A majority of both men and women can handle monogamy just fine. Why do statistically less than a quarter of both genders live their lives according to their true nature? Why don’t we fail more at my monogamy? And if we’re all managing to go against the grain and stifle our natures, the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:33 PM
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For two reasons. First, what you’re saying is not a FACT, it’s a theory. And while I don’t doubt that there are some women who act “hypergamous”, many don’t. Same as I don’t doubt some men have trouble with monogamy, many don’t. Second reason is that the theory of women being hypergamous is rarely used in a neutral context. Quite often it is used to depict women as bad, sometimes even stupid, following their uncivilised instincts without knowing why and, oh, how fun it is to see them fail at it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:24 PM
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But why would women choose to defy their “nature” just because the consequences are small?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:55 PM
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Where did I say women don’t cheat? But yes, women go to work and presumably they do work there. But look up any study on the subject and you will also find that they statistically do more of the housework which makes it harder time wise, at least if they have children. Obviously, since I’m NOT saying women don’t cheat, some make time for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:43 PM
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I thought men were polygynous by nature and forced into monogamy and that’s why they cheat? I guess we’re all reluctant to be monogamous then!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:37 PM
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I didn’t downvote though. I only do that when people are outrageously misogynistic or offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:35 PM
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The reason for all this sexless was is that people get stuck behind their screens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:34 PM
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When women are accused of hypergamy, it is usually not done in a non-judgmental way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:32 PM
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I do have an academic background and yes, self reporting is not always trustworthy which is why you need more. However you can’t say one group of people is lying and the other group is telling the truth. What you can do with self reported results is compare to other studies in the same field and see if you notice a trend. One thing you’re forgetting about women’s greater possibilities to cheat are that they tend to spend more time in the home than their husbands and that women’s libido often dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:27 PM
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Income wise men generally make more money than women. So women aren’t worried about making less than men because they already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:24 PM
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If it were true, sounds like something to disdain women for!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:48 PM
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I am so intrigued. Please show me a study on how women know how to love. Or that men’s version is the truest one. Heck, just show me one that proves your original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:45 PM
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ok, so we agree. I thought you were arguing against my saying stats show that men tend to cheat a tad more making the statement “women cheat more” untrue. Maybe I just got lost in the comments;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:43 PM
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So that still doesn’t make women be more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:34 PM
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Common sense based on what? You can’t have common sense without facts to base it on...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:32 PM
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Let's say 4 guys are interested in a girl. All of them have decent personality, common interests etc. Their SMVs are 8,7,6,5. The girl goes for the guy with the 8 SMV. That's hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:50 PM
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How do you know. Where do you get your facts from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:48 PM
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But in your mind equal or down is just income wise. Look wise it’s the opposite. Provided your statement is even true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:46 PM
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Haha haha! So going for someone better look wise is better than going for someone better money wise? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:59 AM
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Why do statistics often, if not always, show that men are somewhat more inclined to cheat than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:57 AM
10

And that differs from how women think how?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:56 AM
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Goddesses = objects of men’s desire. The truth = women are human beings with feelings and their own will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:46 AM
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Well it does actually. Almost as if there isn’t a whole field called psychology saying that the human mind isn’t always (actually almost never) straight forward. You have not been in the position of being a woman asked to perform degrading things. You don’t know what that feels like and you have no interest in knowing. You can easily dismiss women’s feelings saying “she can just say no”, but finding out that a partner fantasises about spitting on you, or choking you, is not a neutral thing. So y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:36 AM
1

Please watch this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymWVWHOgDFM
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:10 AM
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Of course women can be assholes. Women are human beings. But why would it automatically be a woman’s fault if a man chooses porn over her? That’s kind of like saying men can’t be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:02 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymWVWHOgDFM Just leavings this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:00 AM
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Right. You’ve never heard of porn stars doing things they’re not comfortable with because it’s expected of them? Just because you ask someone if they’re ok, doesn’t mean they are. I mean do some of the things women endure in porn look pleasurable, comfortable or even pain free? And the point is not that women “can” decline. The point is that men find inflicting pain on a woman is a turn on and have to ask. The woman then has to choose between saying yes to being degraded (because you can’t deny …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:42 AM
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Yes, I understand, I also understand what deflecting is. Right now we’re talking about the violent part. So defend the violence if you want to side with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:19 AM
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What a lousy thing to say to someone, seriously. Why would you even say that to someone you don’t know? (I guess it wouldn’t be better if you did know her/ him)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:18 AM
4

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:15 AM
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But violent porn isn’t outlawed so why use a hypothetical situation instead of debating the current situation? Because you can’t defend it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:11 AM
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Of course it’s what we want. When we’re looking for love. Super important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:47 PM
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The fact that I don’t live in a particularily dangerous/ especially sexist place, that I have a wide variety of friends, statistics from other countries and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:58 PM
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That is exactly what I said. Most women in my circles. What I think that says is that even if “most women” globally didn’t use it, most women have been subjected to at least a minimum of #metooishness ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:10 PM
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Yes, in my circles they did and no, I don’t live in a particularly dangerous place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:21 PM
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Yes, I absolutely agree. I was referring to the comment about getting raped for getting too drunk part. Not taking every preventative measure does not make you responsible for the crime committed against you. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:26 PM
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So obviously we don’t agree on a lot of things but I just want to state, for the record, that although some girls lacking bodily integrity are that way because they come from a home lacking in love, a lot don’t. I, and a few of my friends are examples of that. And on some things we do agree ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:23 PM
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I agree with the last part of your comment. Is it kindness to victim blame? (I am referring to the “getting raped because I drank too much-part)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:37 PM
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I am a parent. I am a parent of four girls and one boy and of course I do my best to shield them from harm. But one of my girls, now 8, has already been abused by a boy a few years older than her. And of course we blame ourselves but how could we have known? We can’t be there every single minute, we can’t homeschool them from fear of the men around us, we have to let go at a certain point and trust they fare well. And sometimes, despite having taught them body autonomy and tried our best to rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:09 PM
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So TLDR. Rapist=smart, woman=dumb. In other words victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:36 PM
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Why does Johnny fucking Depp keep popping up? Is that the only example you have? I don’t blame Depp for getting abused, he’s a victim, and one of the reasons some do here is clearly and sometimes explicitly as a tit for tat. As in people here blame women for getting into abusive relationships therefore “ I’m not going to feel sorry for Depp.” Also, did I say pop culture gave us a rosy view of men??? No I said pop culture makes women believe getting one is her most important goal. And shame on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:33 PM
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Women are attracted to men who can’t control his instincts Yet don’t want to have sex with them and get upset. So as in many other comments: man = bad = nature = nothing we can do. Women = love bad man = gets harassed/ raped = tough shit = we have to manage women’s expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:25 PM
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Just want to say you wrote a beautiful post :) Good luck in your pursuit of love, my friend (and I don’t mean it in a sarcastic red pill way ;) )
/r/ExRedPill12/03/20 11:58 AM
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By culture I meant popular culture like movies, music, books. It’s a bit better now, I’ll admit. And just like you, it was in public spaces, like walking home from school. You not taking it to heart is great, but that does not nullify my, or any other girls’, experience. Neither does it make our parents bad parents. Also, even if ot was bad parenting, should we leave girls with bad parents to fend for themselves of should we strive to create an environment where even these girls feel safe. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:36 AM
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So you really think wolves are situated in a specific place? Just sounds to me that you think we should blame bad parents for men’s creepy behaviour. Sure, but blame them for their sons’ awful behaviour too. I can tell you that my crippling low self esteem, as well as that of a friend of mine who also ended up being a “slut” despite great parents (hers weren’t even divorced ;) ), came from the slew of men that from the age of 10,11 objectified me and made me believe that my entire self worth was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:25 AM
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Of course my parents taught me all the right things. I believe most parents do. But they can only do so much before you’re sent out in the world and with enough exposure you start believing that all you’re good for is to satisfy men’s desire. That is not something my parents taught me. They taught me I was valuable and loved and special. Men (NAMALT) taught me I was a pussy on legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:03 AM
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You think it’s easy for a 12 year old, or even a 14 year old to “communicate” aka take responsibility for a grown man’s desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:59 AM
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Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:56 AM
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What the fuck??? So tell me, why do girls get raped seeing as they don’t “need” to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:54 AM
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metoo says otherwise ;) Very few of my female Facebook contacts did not use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:53 AM
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Did you act accordingly? Because culture also teaches women that the most important thing about their lives is to find a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:51 AM
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So you did actually mean that pointing out sexism = hating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:43 AM
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Sorry for you too :( I was around 10-12.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:41 AM
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And? You still experienced predatory behaviour... good for you that you had the integrity, at that age, to do the right thing. Most teens don’t. I don’t mean that I would have followed any adult man to a party, but it’s a matter of exposure. The more you’re exposed, the likelier it is that you sometimes are compliant against your will..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:40 AM
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Men’s natural creepiness= totally to be expected. Women’s natural disgust with it =weird What should be stopped? Women’s objections to what they find frightening (aka behaviour that sometimes actually lead to rape, murder, abduction...)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:31 AM
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So women not accepting men’s sexual harassment is the problem, not the actual harassment. Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:24 AM
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Second that. I know it’s not popular here, but #metoo exploded for a reason! Also, despite my many, many, many bad experiences with men I still like all individual men until they prove me wrong. What did change with age was the realisation that there was a power dynamic between men and women that shouldn’t be there. (And if you say women have the power because they can get laid easier, give me a fucking break...)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:21 AM
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What about what I said is un-empathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:56 PM
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Actually, pumped and dumped is how trp describes it , managing to makie women simultaneously look like sluts, victims of their own bad choice through no fault of anyone else. Men have no agency. If woman is litterally "pumped and dumped", then I'm sorry, she is the victim of an ashole. He may have displayed red flags, he may not have. But to TRpers only women have agency, and they choose to use it badly. I don't actually feel like discussing it with you because I know it's not going aanywhere. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 07:25 PM
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Yes, as a feminist I more than willingly admit a woman treating a man badly is not a man’s fault. Especially not in cases of abuse. Can Trp admit that a woman getting “pumped and dumped” is not necessarily the woman’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:58 PM
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What an elaborate way to say BPs are controlled by their emotions and can’t rise up to the intellectual level of RPs...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:25 PM
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Great point. Why care about something you can’t exactly do anytning about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:20 PM
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I mean, I’m shocked that TRP is equated to male nature in the post... I personally know very few men who think like trpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:01 PM
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I mean, if any man would have treated me like some men here aparantly think women should be treated (or seen), even I wouldn’t have slept with them and I was real easy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 11:44 AM
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Just an ashole thing to do... I mean games are ok if they’re really necessary. But as little as possible. Just be effing honest...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 07:47 AM
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Not having experienced getting kicked in the balls (although I’ve given birth five times). Not being afraid of balding. Woman, 39
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:43 PM
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With only sex, romance is a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:48 PM
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SO, if someone else gets a truly free roof fixing, as in not paying for it either from rent or from getting a handyman doing it, then it must have to do with emotional attachment. Nobody gets a free roof fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 08:25 AM
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Funny how red pill and blue pill definitions can be modelled around what you want. From escaping from ignorance to men's rights anti-feminist to all of the sudden meaning a lady's man...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 08:23 AM
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Blue pill man = gets sex and a meaningful relationship, red pill man = no meaningful relationship and then had to work much harder to get the sex. So basically blue pill man gets the sex he wants by not focusing on only getting sex whereas red pill man focuses on sex and loses it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:59 PM
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You seem to misunderstand. I do make time for sex with my husband. I a m very seldom in the mood (although it does happen thankfully) , yet do it for him as we have a great relationship. So, blue pill men get sex where a red pill man (my ex) would certainly not. And sure, he could/ would leave me after a while but then it'd take him work to get sex with someone else... Also, why so rude about "my busy schedule"? Have you tried having five kids, a house, growing food, working and managing a writi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:25 PM
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At the most , I like it hard IF, and iónly if, I'm really in the mood. If not, it hurts. When I was younger I sometimes asked to be called names and to be slapped. That was because of my very low opinion of myself. What men hade done to me during consentual sex that I specifically didn't ask for and did not enjoy: being bitten hard, being slapped (in that case not asked for as opposed to above) and once someone seemed to enjoy trying to fit a whole fist into me, that hurt like hell but he didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:22 PM
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Sure, if you’re renting, then you should expect it but then you’re technically paying for it through rent...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:34 PM
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Why would this rejection only hyrt/ happen to blue pill men? I have a blue pill husband. My libido is like 90% gone because of kids, stress and no f——-g time to myself or for each other. However we still have sex, once in a blue moon because I’m horny, mostly for his sake. Why? Because we have a great relationship based on mutual respect, love, communication... had I still been with my ex whom I love dearly ( more as a brother now) but is a sexist who had no consideration for my needs or wants h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:42 PM
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If that’s the case, then they’re probably old friends... you can’t demand a free roof fixing from someone you haven’t bothered investing any emotional labour into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:04 PM
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I myself must admit that I like not only tall men but very tall men (my husband is 6’10), probably due to my father being very tall. So I’m a cliché. However, my best friend in the world liked them much shorter, as in short guys, and it never ceased to amaze me how different the men we were attracted to were considering how much alike she and I are in all other respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:40 PM
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Very true. Altruism makes us happier! Go altruism!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:27 PM
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Also, desire has nothing to do with empathy, even though I have been involved in a bit of pittyfucking in my days...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:27 PM
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Why can’t we just see each other as people? Why are we just “women” and “men” here? Maybe one woman was taken advantage of by a chad in a horrible way and deserves our sympathy. Maybe another one projected a possible relationship with him despite nothing pointing towards it, got her heart broken and maybe she should have seen it coming but her heart is still broken. You can’t blame the guy in that situation but you can still feel sorry for the woman. Then maybe a man did everything he could to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:08 AM
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Just be respectful, listen, be genuinely interested. It helps to have interesting things to talk about and to be witty. All of the above is rare (at least all in one) and might get you all the way. But then again it might not. Consolation prize is having had a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 05:49 PM
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Obvioulsy, this post isn’t about you since it in no way describes you. Also, I’m sorry you are experiencing that. Rejection is tough. It must suck!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:34 PM
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Yes, almost like there woudn’t be any competition if people from both genders didn’t seem to only be interested in the ones that are ”worth competing over”...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:27 AM
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Funny! Almost as if the reputation of ”men” is more important that the safety of women. As if masculinity is... wait for it... fragile?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:14 AM
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I’m talking about men in court when it comes to sexual crimes, that is what we are talking about here do stick to the subject. Obviously you are going to see what you want to see and ignore the rest. And also obviously, a person who is a victim of sexual abuse is only going to care about declining rates in theory. It’s not like a rape victim is going to be less traumatised just because it happens less... and if you think #metoo was about demonising all men, that feeling may come from the fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:25 AM
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"Yes my parents didnt teach me anything. My mom babied me hardcore and my dad taught me nothing except how he likes his drinks made" So sorry that's your situation, sounds sad :(
/r/ExRedPill29/02/20 06:51 AM
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So many words. Men's feelings are not ignored, just look at how these cases are treated in court. There's frequently an effort to show how the man (=the presumed offender) has been ostracized by the accusations. Nevermind that it's often the opposite. Women are not believed and the find themselves not only being victims but also without support (except for their families I hope). There was actually a pretty big movement where women shared experiences with men that were super wholesome. This was …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 06:23 AM
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Nothing wrong with a good dumpster dive!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:36 PM
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I am so sorry to hear about your anxieties. First of all let me tell you about myself as a young lady. I was quite anti woman, was only friends with guys and thought feminists were men hating and ugly and that they just didn’t get enough attention from men. I had no idea what feminism stood for and all the while I was letting myself be harassed, abused and taken advantage of, which totally destroyed my self image and made me depressed and suicidal. Now, before you think I became a so called man …
/r/ExRedPill28/02/20 04:35 PM
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The #metoo movement started saying to men as a collective “don’t do this”. Some men already knew and didn’t care, other felt insecure about whether they were doing it right and some felt downright offended by it. What’s the alternative? Keep the status quo and let our daughters endure the same rate of sexual harassment/ assault and rape as we have? Or talk about it and risk men feeling unjustly targeted? It’s easy, if you are guilty of going around harassing women, yes by all means feel like we …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:27 AM
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But we were having so much fun :) And you were so close to understanding toxic masculinity=/= men! Imagine if you had chosen to expand your mind instead of hanging on to your chosen beliefs. Oh well, bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:42 AM
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No, we don’t. We do, however, wish that physical boundaries were discussed so that more men understood them resulting is less sexual harassment, assault and rape. It has nothing to do with blaming all men, it has to do with targeting the group most likely to be on the offender side before anything happens Instead of targeting the potential victims to help them navigate through a sea of predators (I am not saying all men are predators, I am saying that that is how women are encouraged to behave).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:14 PM
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Sometimes it helps to read before you post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 12:40 PM
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I said, send me to a link about feminism and victorian era gender norms... Also, toxic masculinity has nothing to do with blaming things on men, on te contrary: " The concept of toxic masculinity is used in academic and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in par…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:00 PM
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They aren't very good at arguing their case ;-)
/r/ExRedPill25/02/20 08:05 PM
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OK? And what gave you that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:45 PM
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Please, would you link me to a source where feminists support Victorian era gender norm. Any link will do as long as it’s feminists (as opposed to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:46 PM
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Eager hand, nice touch. Also I said shy, not ugly. The reason I raised my “eager hand” is to put an effing stop to these ridiculous generalisations about how bad modern women are or in this case would be. But yes, of course women court men they find attractive, just like men court women they find attractive. Although what we find attractive is highly subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:43 PM
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I'm sorry, what? If anything feminism is known for, it is that it's critical of gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:20 PM
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Was it because he split the bill or for other reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:36 PM
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Maybe she does. It doesn't say anyhting about that ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:36 PM
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Interesting, so you'd be better off dating a feminist. Feminists are the ones that are interested in having equal partnership, splitting work, chores and parental leave equally with her husband and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:34 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:29 PM
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Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:27 PM
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Feminists respect men. Way more than men respect themselves sometimes. Just not as in "respect my authoritahhh!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:27 PM
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That sub is about as feminist as Sunday shool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:26 PM
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It is NOT a female version of incels. I don't agree with their traditionalism, but they are not about to shoot up a yoga studio full of men anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:25 PM
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Is the paying of the bill the actual dating? Funny, I thought the talking, sharing a meal, flirting part was the dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:20 PM
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For me, it has to do with who has the most resources. If he's broke, hell I'd pay for it (of course in a situation where I was single). Me and my husband, when we met we never even spoke about it. once he paid, the next time I did as we both were pretty broke ;-) Wanting to split the bill is only a red flag to me if the man makes much more money. Then it's not a sign that he's just using you, it's just a sign he's cheap. But then, you don't need to go out and eat in a fancy restaurant on the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:18 PM
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Just not true. I usually never went after the traditional hunks when I hit on guys in a bar. I actually liked the shy ones :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 09:10 AM
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Literally never. If anything, if there were doubt or lack of interest she would be so relieved to be given the chance to say "Yes, I'm sorry but I'm not feeling it." EXACTLY. That's what I do, and all my friends do. Nobody wants that akwardness! According to TRPers she's got nothing better to do in her evenings than to risk her life mooching a free meal off complete strangers she has no interest in that also want to expressly fuck her. Are there any better ways to spend your evenings?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:49 AM
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I think you make things more complicated than they have to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:47 AM
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Have you ever been subjected to women pretending to be interested even after being asked about it? I just don't understand what she would get out of it? A free dinner? It's way more fun to go on dates when you're interested in someone, wht waste time on someone you're not, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:47 AM
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I still maintain that I find it very strange that you've been subjected to this odd behaviour, gaslighting even, not only once but several times...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:45 AM
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Weird that this type of, to my knowledge, uncommon behaviour happened in most of your encounters with women in college. Also, I think you might use the word gaslight wrong. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaslight
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:23 PM
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I didn’t quite get the second part...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:30 PM
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Wy would somebody be interested in letting someone believe there's chemistry if there's not? I don't understand what she'd gain from it. Trust me, most women would jump at any chance she'd get to set the record straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:15 PM
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Thought you had forgotten an /s, but no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:13 PM
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totally!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:03 PM
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TBH I've never met one at all. However, I once was a masssive whore and wasn't pagan ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:32 PM
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Yes, you're right. Mostly I find it amusing, especially when they make stupid assumptions about me. But it gets me when they know nothing about women's history, women's struggles or women's anything and still judge all of us everywhere (except for submissive femle slaves I guess). And considering there are examples of IRL violence playing out from their belefs, it's scary. Especially since i have four daughters who could be victims and one son who could fall down the pipeline...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:40 AM
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You know that from loads of experience in the matter right...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:34 AM
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Oh, I wish I had your faith in humanity ;-) But then again if that's what makes you empathetic, that's womnderful. Even woman-hating, angry asholes deserve it. (Until they start shooting up yoga studios)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:18 AM
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Yes, one would think he wouldn't need to accuse one (or all?) of his many LTR of saying shit in her sleepin order to find out her true N-count. Considering how many women he spends hs day with, he probably knows women are actual human beings that generally like honesty and quite often are honest back. If you ask them. (And maybe even go so far as to understand your N-count doesn't determine your value as a person)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:09 AM
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Good. Then we agree...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:06 AM
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Again, why would you do it, if you wouldn't comit either way? Is it just to allow yourself to despise the woman who just had sex with you and liked you enough to spend the night?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:01 AM
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Interesting how the women redpillers meet seem to differ completely from all other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:56 AM
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Also, you can quit doing hook ups without necessarily regretting you did it. It can just sop being your preference...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:52 AM
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It's kind of the opposite here... a woman tries to get a higher level of comittment, ocbviously because she likes the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:49 AM
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There's a cure for that. It's called comunication. Afraid you're getting friend zoned? Ask her, she'll definitely tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:45 AM
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If you "don't care" about her sexual past, why work so hard at revealing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:41 AM
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I just had one hair colour when I was a slut... granted not the one I was born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:32 AM
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Always ready for sex =/= making it extra hard for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:31 AM
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Yes sure, most people are honest. Like just ask...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:28 AM
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And is pagan!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:25 AM
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Well great, then they don’t get pregnant either. Good of both of them to prevent it! I have no Idea how those are arguments against abortion. Do I think women and men should agree on deciding wether or not to keep a child, ideally, yes. But if they can't agree, there's just no other alternative than to let the one who suffers the highest consequences decide. And you know that social contract you're talking about? For hundreds of years, women who got knocked up had no protection whatsoever, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:01 PM
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In other words, men always have reasons. But women are stupid by nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:37 PM
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You think there is logic in it but there really isn’t. You want something out of a sexual encounter and want to avoid something that you know could be a consequence of the action. If you choose to do it despite the risk you have to take responsibility for preventing the unwanted situation unless you want the other person to choose the outcome. You can’t just choose the good part and leave the rest. Or what about STDs? Is that as well always the woman’s responsibility? Or do you think both should…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:32 PM
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No, no it’s not equal. The man does not need to carry a baby for nine months with all that it entails. Both psychologically and physically, and financially too if your pregnancy is really hard. Anyhow, a lot of abortions are agreements between two people but in some cases the woman has the right to decide what to do. Funny that terpers feel reproduction is woman’s responsibility yet somehow, magically, taking care of the children after a divorce is a man’s right. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:49 AM
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So you mean women get pregnant by themselves? Funny. I thought I needed a man for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:15 AM
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Instead of adding to my last reply I'll just write a bit more. You know what men's lib is about? Well one example; raising awareness about female on male rape. Why is this not talked about, or even at worst made fun of? Well because the commonly held belief is that men can't be raped, at least not by women. Why? Because men are supposed to always be willing, to always be physically superior and therefore not let it happen unless they want it too. Female on male rape is in a lot of people's mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 12:13 AM
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So, in your opinon, it's better to follow an imaginary contract, women never signed and are not interested in, and then lash out when they will not fulfill their part? Instead of revising the contract and not feeling obligated to follow it either. That way, everyone is free... and nobody has to "lash out"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 11:44 PM
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In my experience, terragutti is 100% right about the clingy thing. I personally don’t know about the cheating, don’t know anyone who’s cheated, I guess that will happen more in our fifties, according to statistics. Also according to statistics, men cheat more at all ages apart from the late teens where girls cheat a tiny, tiny bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 11:40 PM
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So you mean men never choose foolishly when it comes to relationships? And those alphas, is their “behaviour” not to be blamed for anything? Like making people sadder?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 11:33 PM
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There is a male liberation movement you know. And I don’t mean the one based on complaining about women’s fight for freedom, but the one that actually discusses the social shackles of masculinity and tries to liberate men from destructive patterns at the same rate as women liberate themselves from theirs...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 11:27 PM
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Oh, ok. I’m worthless. Thanks for convincing me with such strong arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:17 PM
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No, I completely agree with you. I was just confused by what you wrote before and was unsure about the message. Sorry, maybe I’m just stupid;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:16 PM
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Are you saying men are taught to respect women and get sex in return, but that women don’t feel obligated to sleep with a man after getting respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:24 AM
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I ‘m sorry, I don’t understand...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:55 AM
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Nah... I don’t agree with a lot of FDS, for one it’s too conservative in its views on gender, including how women should behave. However, the posts over there are mostly about real life experiences, not about AMALT. Also, if I had been a man, i’d only be afraid of those women if I was lying about my intentions towards them. I do agree that a few of the users are vicious though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:53 AM
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Piss off and go read some fucking history!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:47 AM
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I’ve been there. Women warning each other about PUAs... more of a reaction to men lying about their intentions than a female equivalent of hateful incels...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 07:24 PM
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See, you still maintain it was cancelled when women started being discriminated against but there had always been more women applicants. Except in some fields where women obviously stopped being at the benefiting from end of AA at the same time as the men... No I happen to believe in AA, whomever it benefits, even when it comes to ethnic groups or other factors that tend to get you discriminated against, but that version is illegal here. (By the way, AA is when two candidates of equal merit comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 07:22 PM
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Number one, since the 80s (I said 90s but I was wrong), women have been over represented in higher education. The affirmative action has therefore mostly benefited men. It was not cancelled when women outnumbered men, it was cancelled 2010, so many years after. Number two: What I meant by you making stuff up is that there is no general law that forces anyone to have affirmative action anywhere. What you wrote about was simply a policy universities used to have. How am I supposed to know what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:18 PM
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AWALT. Just saying... and as a woman I should not feel that being called selfish, entitled, lazy, cowardly, stupid, slutty, shallow, having had no important purpose in history (well not me personally but women as a whole), evil (and I’m probably forgetting a lot... ) is hate, it’s just criticism and of me and every single member of my gender. Oh and apparently women are overly sensitive and don’t get to judge what is hate towards them and what is “only criticism”...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:05 PM
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Oh, ok sorry, thought you meant to prove me wrong. Guess I’m not used to someone agreeing with me on this sub ;) But yes, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:40 PM
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I mean IRL. Plus crazy cat lady might exist but she’s not about to shoot up a yoga studio full of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:24 PM
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Show them to me and I will take it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:23 PM
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Good way to finish. Have a good weekend!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:15 PM
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wow! Almost like NAWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:08 PM
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So first of all, women have been applying for higher education at a higher rate since the nineties. And the affirmative action you are talking about ended in 2010. Also, there are still programs that have a higher ratio of men to women to which women have no access to affirmative action. So yes, as the article said, mostly this affirmative action rule WAS used to favor men. Now, personally I'm not against it. Also, when I was applying for jobs in the 2000s, nearly every job I applied for had a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:06 PM
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Not very, as long as I'm attracted to him. Of course, being an attractive man helps that attraction to occur. https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a53645/women-dating-average-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:25 PM
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So, if it's simply a tool for getting sex, why are so many spewing their hate for women all over?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:23 PM
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Was that a defence of TRP???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:20 PM
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There was just a post in here a few weeks back about a study saying women didn't choose men that were more succesful. This was posted by a RP-er who wanted to show that women just go for looks and that you can't even manipulate it by being successful... just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:19 PM
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Strange that there aren't hordes of female incels demanding the sex/ relationships they feel they are entitled to yet aren't getting from the only dateable men out there then...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:08 PM
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I live in Sweden. It's blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:05 PM
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So you just make things up now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:57 PM
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Or just listen to what women themselves are saying you know. Instead of reading whatever you like into it... I mean, there's a lot of degrading shit A LOT. Why did they pick him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 12:10 PM
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Right. That's why women graduate more? Because they achieve less? "Research from various countries suggests that companies with a higher representation of women at the most senior levels deliver stronger organizational and financial performance as well as better corporate governance. Moreover, the lack of women in leadership positions means that female talent is being underused and human capital wasted." https://us.experteer.com/magazine/why-arent-more-women-in-power-positions/ Just the first th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 12:03 PM
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"For what it's worth, Deen's brand of kink isn't more or less violent or aggressive than that of other male porn actors. ("I've been into rough sex pretty much my whole sexual life and so I'm not, like, bad at it," he told the Observer in 2012.)" As far as I've understodd, what made him a bit of a feminist icon was that he advocated for consent culture and women's equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:55 AM
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Oh, and all the other articles I found were about his fall from grace... didn't read them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:49 AM
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I did. I found this: In short, yes. I feel that so many of us embraced Deen because we were desperate for a male sexual icon who seemed, publicly, to be at all interested in women’s desires and consent. Desperation makes us generous in what we are willing to accept. Women deserve a healthy sex life just as much as men do, and it feels like a personal betrayal, to me and many others, that the sexual champion we thought we found is alleged to be an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:41 AM
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You have been saying everything has basically always been open to women, at least middle class women. I don't know how your last argument, the one about women graduating more frequently then men yet not reaching the higher positions at work speaks to that. To me it does quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:37 AM
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Your point being? I mean, if it had been someone else stating this I would have understood, but you seem to want to drive to the fact that women aren't disadvantaged, which is why I dont follow...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:24 AM
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What makes you say that? Dominated by female desire? Are you f----g kidding me???? Give me studies, give me facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:22 AM
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https://www.livescience.com/7483-beautiful-women-marry-attractive-men.html "Physical attractiveness of husbands is not as important to women, the researchers suggest. Rather, wives are looking for supportive husbands, they say. "
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:51 AM
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Personal experience (=me and my female friends). Don't give a shit about social status (of course it'd be a bit of a turn off for someone very low on the scale, like a homeless man for example, I wish it wasn't, but it is). Physical appearence does matter, especially for one night stands and initial attraction but the more you get to know someone the less it matters. Of course, if you have a big weight problem, you have to compensate more with your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:42 AM
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I don't understand what you are refering to. That I meant men with success? That the world has become successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:14 AM
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Sometimes all you need is a friend. And even if you seek professional help, you need friends to support you. And you weren't specifically saying women who go after married men, you said: " Socially it’s suicide, men will obviously see them as trashy whores and even women will avoid them because as I said, women who are that pathologically over sexual are generally psychologically disturbed, often by previous abuse during childhood and/or adolescence, and someone with no self respect is no friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:12 AM
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Right. Keep telling yourselt that. https://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/q-and-a/a26865/porn-stars-sound-off-on-orgasms/ And regarding who watches, the only thing I've seen is that 1,14 minutes more daily stat. Every other study/ article says men watch porn way more often, and of course, porn is always portrayed from a male POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:07 AM
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Haha, I agree. That's why I said I don't believe women are more peaceful by nature. I don't believe men are violent bu nature either, I believe it is a social construct. That power, something historically reserved for men, has "demanded" violence. However you seem to be of the opposite opinion. Women are inately malicious. So they are malicious but by nature, not as a social construct... Here's an interesting article: https://qz.com/625463/women-are-more-altruistic-than-men-if-they-dont-have-tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 08:50 AM
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Yes, but the rate of male to female are ridiculous... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_education
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 08:42 AM
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Yes, that's because almost only females that have adopted a male vision of the world have been in power (there are esceptions). Now, turns out I don't actually believe women are more peaceful by nature, but I certanly think they are brought up to be. And women have organized and protested against the wars they did not start for ll of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:39 PM
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Well they'd had to get elected first and unfortunately it turns out that s a bit harder for women, especially if they are not "tough leaders". To me, it's funny what the world has become with men in power...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:36 PM
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"A romance developed between the brilliant pair, and they became a scientific dynamic duo who were completely devoted to one another. At first Marie and Pierre worked on separate projects. But after Marie discovered radioactivity, Pierre put aside his own work to help her with her research." She was the one who discovered radioactivity, then they together discovered polonium and radium.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:19 PM
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Exception to women not having access to higher education. Read what I quoted in that history article. The quote in the wikipedia article does not contradict it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:10 PM
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Funny how women have tried so hard to have a say in shaping society and continually been shut down. Also funny that despite this, a woman was the one who invented the first computer, discovered radioactivity and DNA. Amongst other things. Women have also been very active in shaping politics despite it being sometimes dangerous for them to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:17 PM
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Probably a lot less violent and selfish. Poverty rates would be down as well...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:10 PM
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Well if they compete against each other in order to get women they go about it the wrong way!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:25 PM
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Speaking as a woman, my turn ons include respect and someone being into me. Other than that, anything goes but usually not rudeness, poor personal hygiene, arrogance... I did end up with a man who matches all of my criterion in the end though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:38 PM
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The women they are cheating with don't have to be cheating. They can be single...
/r/ExRedPill20/02/20 05:15 PM
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And that means what? That there were exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 01:37 PM
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Also, for large cunks of history, amongst others the victorian period, women have not been allowed to own or inerit property so... exceptions, exceptions...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:53 PM
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No, I am not. You're projecting. You started by saying women had access to science education in the victorian era, then turned to the roman empire which are obviously very much earlier. The quotes you provided in the wikipedia were a bit unclear about how usual it was so, I looked further and found this: The education of women was a controversial subject in the Roman period. Basic skills of reading and writing were taught to most girls in the Roman upper and middle classes, while some families w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:50 PM
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You're being very selective with your reading. I'm talking every period from about the middle ages up until the beginning of the 20th centyry. And yes, there have been women in higher education, sporadically throughout history, however, class does not account for their small number or else, there would be an equal small amount og men doing it. As for the victorian times: It was not until more than forty years after the Victorian Era began that the Education Act was passed in England in 1870, mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:24 PM
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A bit selfish though... someone with no self respect is no friend to have... how the hell are these people supposed to gain self respect with no friends by their side?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:37 AM
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No we’re not. We’re talking until the twentieth century.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:18 AM
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First of all, even if it were all true (which it simply isn't), what's your alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:24 AM
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Yes, we know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:20 AM
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I think it depends a lot on what age range we're talking about too. I sure have experimented a lot, in my younger years. Yet during those years I was basically building my self worth on how good I was in bed. The sex itself was more often not very enjoyable for me, and sometimes, like the "slap me" and the "call me whore"-sex which some men, to their credit, were uncomfortable with, was just a reflection on my low self worth. So, in my experience, I did those things not for my own sexual gratifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:19 AM
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Well, for one, men cheat more than women. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america But of course there are criterions to a woman's choice of partner, I mean are we supposed to let the men choose us without having a say ;-)? However, all women are different. Even my best friend wirth whom I share so much personality wise and in life priorities, has a TOTALLY different taste in men than I do. Also, I find that women more often give men way underneath their…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/20 09:05 AM
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Just educate yourself a little on the history of women. In this case check out the article about women's education in history. Throughout history there have been exceptions but mostly, women were barred from higher education. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_education#Early_modern_period,_humanist_attitudes https://www.thoughtco.com/history-women-higher-ed-4129738
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:49 AM
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Yes, rape was absolutely a concern historically... in case it damaged the family name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rape
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:46 AM
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Interesting that most men reply that women are the kinky ones wanted to be dominated borderline raped whereas the women in the thread don't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:35 AM
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You really believe women are the audience porn is aiming to please?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:34 AM
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What is your experience with men's entitlement to sex/ a certain kind of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:32 AM
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Some sex is only exciting when you fatasise about it. Some of it would be abuse if it happened for real, some of it would just be cheating. I have no interest in cheating, as I have no interest in getting abused...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:27 AM
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Hahahaha! You’d be quite surprised knowing what I already have enacted when I was young. But enacting fantasies isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. For example, doggy style is my go to fantasy position, IRL being taken from behind is not always the best as it CAN hurt if I am not aroused enough, also clitoral stimulus is nonexistent. That is just one example of how fantasies and irl don’t always match. (And that’s just the vanilla stuff...) Edit: words
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:33 PM
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As a woman, no. I don’t even want to have the sex I fantasise about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:16 PM
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How grateful of them...
/r/TheRedPill18/02/20 10:17 AM
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No. I don’t know anyone who would be happy being treated like less than an equal. We’re not children you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:33 PM
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Yes you are. You know exactly what my point is. If the only education a woman can get is how to take care of others it’s not equal opportunity now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:16 PM
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Wait... as a rule women don't do a anything for anyone but themselves? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sexual-personalities/201603/are-men-more-helpful-altruistic-or-chivalrous-women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 11:34 PM
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That women who got an education got one that made them better wives and housekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 11:10 PM
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Let’s not forget men would not be the backbone of society if women weren’t there to take care of their household and children...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:07 PM
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We do have a pretty big gender divide when it comes to the work force, it’s true. But not in the family! Also female jobs such as the ones in healthcare are not “safe”. A lot of women get burned out from it. It’s hard work and tough working conditions. Sure, you don’t die from it but you can get pretty sick and this can affect your life for years and years..,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:06 PM
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That only answered half.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:01 PM
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Ok, thanks. Just sounded so strange, I would have loved to read it to see the reactions ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:40 AM
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An externa source? Do you remember in what context it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:09 PM
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I’d be interested in reading that. Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 04:40 PM
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OK. Just saying, according to my own experience as well as the experience of almost every woman I've talked to about it, if you want an orgasm, you'd have to ask for it. Simply put. If you don't see the difference between what casual sex gives to men vs women, then I don't know how else to put it. Like what is the point of casual sex vs what SHOULD be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:26 PM
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Well sure. But when each session is about blowjobs and none of them about you getting off, it gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:52 PM
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Also the fact that generally, men don’t give a shit about out orgasms when it comes to casual sex. Whereas his is taken for granted. So ONS normally are more pleasurable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:26 PM
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ROFLOL eh, no. I am happily married to my soulmate who, as I would expect from any man who’s not deeply insecure cares more about who I am than who I slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:41 PM
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Mentally below average. Okay... Honestly, the girl you’re describing does sound toxic. But most high N-number girls are not predatory pedophiles. Most only hurt themselves trying to please others. And some I presume just have a good time and should be allowed to do so, under the same premises as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:11 PM
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I’ve scored 10 guys before 20, and then some. Mostly Beskow my league though and the same for my friends around that time. There just weren’t that many guys our league to have ONS with. However. I would have loved to be a woman closer to the one TRP describes, one that did it for her own pleasure and for fun. In fact I did it for validation as I was raised to believe (of course not through my parents, but through men “orbiting around me” from about the age of eleven-twelve) that all I was worth …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:00 PM
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I'm happy for you! :-) And not at all jealous ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:38 AM
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Not really. I mean I liked the attention but no, not my type. I mean I COULD be sexually attrected to someone else without doing anything about it. I generally put my longterm happiness, as well as my husband's, ahead of short time sexual "pleasure" on my priority list. For a woman to get something out of a sexual encounter, unless the man is a great attentive and skillful lover (I've met one in my entire life), it takes time. I've almost never gotten any physical pleasure out of the ONS I've ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:38 AM
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I thought it would come back when I stopped after 10 years (4 different kids...) but it’s been a few months and still not :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:40 PM
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Hope you’re better now!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:21 PM
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That helps ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:19 PM
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Let me put it this way. I used to love travelling. Exploring, meeting new people and all that comes with. Do I want to go travelling now, while living this stressful life? No! Absolutely not. Travelling has lost all its appeal. Am I sometimes reminded of the great times I had and how much freedom I had then? Yes. Would I trade places with someone my age who still travelled around freely? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:16 PM
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You’re probably right. And I should exercise more too. That would probably do wonders for my libido :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:04 PM
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OK, so why do men cheat more than women? https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 06:31 PM
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No, it isn't. I have a certain amount of energy that I have to divide between working, taking care of the home, taking care of the kids, planning and executing our projects for the future, cooking, cleaning, inviting friends over (not often but you know, sometimes...), a million other things related to everyday life and then sex with my husband. He has to do the same. I'm not sure why his libido has stayed the same all these years, maybe it's just the fact that he hasn't been pregnant four times…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 05:28 PM
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Why would you interpret anything of what I said as something malicious? The only thing I did was getting hit on (not even very overtly) and as a result initiating and enjoying sex with my husband. Worth to mention that he knows where this sexual boost came from and that he was quite happy with it. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 05:04 PM
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Yeah, it's true. Believe it or not it is actually quite tough to take care of kids. And being pregnant and breastfeeding for ten years straight (of course not the same child). You might have noticed that the horniness boost didn't last forever. Maybe because an energy drug like this turned out for me can't change reality. Also, I wasn't attracted to the person who hit on me, I just got a boost from being perceived as desirable which doesn't happen often as 1) I don't get out 2) I mostly just mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 04:57 PM
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Good question and to be honest I don’t know. My husband is still attracted to me and he lets me know. We have a pretty equal relationship and we can talk about anything. This is why I don’t mind having sex when I don’t feel like it. I was married before and that relationship was not very healthy. If I’d been in the same situation with him, I might have stopped all together. I hope my libido will come back when I’m less tired and the kids are a bit older. Otherwise maybe we should go out more tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:30 AM
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Still have sex with my husband about once a week however, most of the time entirely for his benefit. My libido is way down from our first time together. Why? Because of the sleep and energy debt that has accumulated over the years having five children, running a company, going bankrupt, trying to make ends meet. I’m still very much in love with him, still attracted to him too. I just don’t have the energy most of the time. Now one interesting thing happened last summer. I was at a work party and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:05 AM
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That's a shame :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:20 PM
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Most of my friends have also had casual sex and without expecting more. I will say though, that even though I’ve had loads of ONS that I wanted to only have sex with, most of them turned out to be quite useless as ONS (at least in those days, like 20-15 years ago) were all about the male orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:09 PM
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I’m so sorry to hear you’re suffering. You sound like you are depressed. Have you thought about getting professional help? I’m in no way trying to minimise the circumstances that made you turn to TRP but with all the self loathing you describe it can be hard to bring up the energy to do something about it. Like getting a job or an education, you say you’re too lazy. I don’t believe you are. I believe your depression is zapping all your energy. You might need medication and also of course to talk…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/20 07:40 PM
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Also, on the second article, nice to know what you're taking out of the article has nothing to do with women's lives and vulnerabilities. Only dismissing sex work as a sign of a woman's lower worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:13 AM
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Said nothing about women not getting punished. It wants to start a conversation on alternatives to prison and jail. Not only for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:09 AM
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Just to comment that this comment is written on my husband's phone. We interchangeably use each other's phones and computer and I have no idea how anyone could know what porn him and I would be watching... (don't watch porn on your husband's work computer though ;) )
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:46 PM
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What a great insightful analysis that is probably lost on most people here. (Or am I too judgmental? Idk, I was just presumed to be an ugly, fat, post wall bitch so don't really care)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:39 PM
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What? Quote please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:18 AM
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You know what is interesting (and terrible) it’s that as women get less attractive with age some feel like they’ve become invisible. I’m talking 50-60, not 30 though. Not only are they not getting attention for their looks, they also feel like they are not getting ANY attention, like they no longer matter in social situations. That must really feel like hitting a wall and does not happen to men as far as I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:16 AM
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Yes, there are prisons full of those! And men would do it too if they got pregnant ;) Edit: guess I forgot a /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:39 PM
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So do the people Who believe otherwise think doing more chores and having more responsibilities than your husband (I assume that is the “right” way) makes women horny? Cause I split chores 50/50 with my husband and I’m tired enough as it is! I can’t imagine being with a man who expected me to do more than my share. I would despise him not want to have sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:25 PM
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That is just not true. In most relationships I see, the women are more good looking than the men. Or equal. My husband who, in my eyes is a 10/10 says he never had sex with a less than beautiful woman. Whereas I, as a beautiful woman (when younger and single) had had sex with at least three or four guys below 4/10. Because I liked them despite their weight and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:26 PM
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I like it when a man, obviously with no experience of being a woman, tells me about oppression. Most women would agree with me in stating that the way you'd want society to be arranged would be oppression yet somehow, you get to say it isn't. How come? On the other hand, a lot of people believe in sharia laws. Just because you view it as oppression doesn't mean that it is. And seriously. I mean it sincerely. The earth is warming and it's not going to be fun for anyone. Neither for me nor for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:45 AM
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So me= narcissistic, and also me= 90% or the women. I am married, I am not interested in OLD at all. I'm simply stating that having success in getting the attention of a woman (any woman) needs a tiny bit more than a "Hi!" Also find it quite interesting that 90 % of all women are boring when most men can't be bothered writing anything else than hi. How original! How funny! How non-boring of 90% of all men! And unlike you, I don't actually draw the conclusion that the "hi"guys actually are boring…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:39 AM
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Because he'd want nudes and that would be a more sure way of getting them...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:33 AM
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Except for rephrasing my own argument into being not unconditional love but love for one's person as opposed to lust for one's body, I agree. :-) (the one that helped me heal was definitely not unconditionally in love with me but provided me with a relatively (with emphasis on that word) stable ground to stand on)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 01:12 PM
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Well, no not really. But I wouldn't wish it upon her as it wasn't healthy for me. I did have a lot of sex with men I did not really want to have sex with and never did it for my own satisfaction. So, I'm not disagreeing that sluttiness sometimes (as in my case) comes from psychological trauma. But I'm arguing that does not make the slut in question less able to be in a fulfilling relationshp. In fact, it sometimes takes someone else to love you unconditionally (or at least not only for your body…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:08 PM
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I don't know. I met both my ex boyfriend and my current husband online. The attention I got that was not leading anywhere ranged from neutral (not affecting me in any way) to upsetting (unwanted propositions of getting paid for sex or for free for that matter). But that's just me...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 11:15 AM
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Yes it did. Yet I was the same person he fell for ;-) Which is one of the reasons why slut shaming upsets me... Definition of real slutty? Haha, I won't say in case my 18-year old daughter remembers my user name...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 11:03 AM
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:-) Me too (and not "a bit of a slut" but a real slutty slut haha). That didn't stop me from having serious relationships in which I was faithful and commited. I got married (too young) to a man who couldn't handle my past and that provided some fuel for his drinking (he had problems before so it wasn't the cause of his drinking...). I've now been married to a man for 12 years who knows about it and doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:55 AM
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Ok. I understand what you mean. And you might be somewhat right. But there are no guarantees either way. But glad you don’t dismiss all the “sluts” ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:07 PM
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Actually it takes no more seconds to type “how about some nudes?” That “so you like judo?” And I doubt you’d get a 1/60 chance at getting the nudes. A horny girl could get paid for it if they really wanted to... and if they do it for free, they’d still need to know why they should choose you. Good luck with your methods... I would have said I hope it gets you laid but I really don’t as you don’t seem to like women very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:04 PM
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But your hi hardly counts as contributing. Anyway, this is only interesting if you want to succeed which you don’t seem that bothered about . And in that case write hi all you want. Your choices will just be severely limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:59 PM
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You're the one saying opressed women are happier. Does that only apply to women? Why would you not want to live somewhere where you are opressed? And if you feel opressed by feminism you should be happy about that too. Otherwise, don't tell women, the ones who obviously do not want to return to a society with less opportunity that they would be happier that way. And do some research about the climate. That way you can talk with your children with some dignity and say, at least I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:54 PM
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Ok, I understand. And like, if I had to write a list with qualifications in a potential partner (If I was single), yes, I would probably choose a guy who’s secure. But all of those qualities are just part of what I ‘d conjured up in my daydreams. If I meet someone I like, I’m not going to bring up my list of imaginary personality traits and check the boxes. Which is why I mean that you might very well be missing out when putting all “sluts” with the untouchables...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:12 PM
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I totally agree, you don’t have to sleep with people on the first date to judge their character. But you can. Who knows why she slept with ten guys. Could be ten one night stands because she just wanted to have sex. If so, ten is very little sex. Could be some of that and some short relationships that didn’t go anywhere. She could even fit a one year relationship in there, then sleeping with a bunch of guys trying to get over him... My point is the n-count doesn’t say anything else than how many…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:05 PM
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Except a gold digger sees wealth as a desirable thing whereas a slut-shamer looks down upon women who have lots of sex. Also, there are male gold diggers but no male sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:04 PM
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Insecurity equals less quality in a person. Got it. Having been subjected to things (by men) in the past that make you think you’re worthless except for having sex lowers your quality as a partner for other men. Good to know. Let’s not break the cycle and let a girl believe she might have an inherent self worth. Let’s judge her by her n-count and toss her aside. Or better yet, use her for sex. Because that’s all she’s good for. Wait.. maybe she has a reason to think what she thinks. Maybe becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:55 PM
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I still don’t see how less than one partner every two months is “this much” sex searching. And people often show a much better side on the first dates/ first few weeks than they are capable of in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:33 PM
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Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:30 PM
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She’s not. I mean she did fuck ten guys, that’s not something she’s doing right now. I would hope not “almost all guys are shallow who see women as property (if other men have used her she’s “damaged goods”) and not human beings with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:29 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:58 AM
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Well, if you look at what porn has to offer these days it’s mostly extremely degrading to women. Having sex with different guys is not degrading to men. It’s real life...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:57 AM
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Well, if she was in love with him for three years, it was obviously not going well. One year and no signs? Do you blame her for looking for an alternative? Seriously? And if she was in love with him this whole time, she now has what she wanted. Why would she be inclined to look further?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:51 AM
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Ok... so five men in a year? Still don’t see the endless humping everyday... it’s not a huge amount of partners. I mean if you’re dating and actively looking for a partner you’re going to accumulate a few failures. Some you discover right away, others might take a while. Some you leave, some you get attached to but they don’t and leave you. I mean come on!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:33 AM
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Golddigging is obviously not well looked upon as the term is pretty derogatory... and I don’t understand the connection to slut shaming. So called sluts are not necessarily gold diggers, non-sluts can save themselves for a well off man... why do we need to slut shame if it’s the golddigging you’re after?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:30 AM
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And quality means what? Absence of sluttiness? Because obviously that theory isn’t reinforcing itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:09 AM
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My god? 10? Wow! That’s like... 3 a year or something! She must be fucking all day long!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:08 AM
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So in other words All women are sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:06 AM
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I had some issues with sexuality when I was young. Have a very high N-count. Sometimes I had sex because I wanted to, sometimes because I believed men wanting to have sex with me was the only thing that made me worth something. But you know what? Do you know why I believed those things? Because I had been sexualised, objectified and molested since the age of 11-12. Objectifying girls is a societal thing, yet, society then turns around and slut shames the women that act the way they have been tau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:06 AM
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Seems like an awful lot of work for the return you’d get. And the women who’d be willing to deliver probably get as many requests as the non-willing girls and are probably not sending nudes to everyone all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:38 PM
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And how would you know what I have to contribute to the conversation if you can’t even be bothered to pretend to show any interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:36 PM
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So then, would you go and live in a country with sharia laws? You’d be happier there I guess. Even if your not a woman, you’d be severely limited in many other ways... You seem to know very little about Greta. And about what it would mean for you if she doesn’t get “what she wants”...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:33 PM
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Oh, good argument. Sorry I was wrong then. (/s)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:37 AM
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How would I know? I know that I wouldn’t reply to 150 “hi”s (even worse with the nudes) Chances would improve dramatically if someone was interested in who I am. If there is nothing to talk about, then maybe you don’t have that much in common to start with. So maybe save your efforts for someone worthwhile for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:01 AM
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But do you not see the absurdity in this? If you’re not going to be bothered, then of course you’re not interesting to women... If a woman doesn’t make an effort to look nice and be kind she wouldn’t have any luck either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:44 AM
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No, I don’t consider an effort being 2-3 paragraphs. Unlike when you’re looking for a job, you don’t have to send in your whole resumé and a nice personal letter. One sentence is enough. Just ask about something in her profile... one question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:41 AM
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They didn’t really have a choice. And I think now that women do, they’d choose freedom over contentment any day. But how do you suggest we get back to the olden days? By legislation? Edit: so you mean because women want to fulfill their own dreams and not be confined to doing chores in the home, marriage rates are all time low. And women are the picky ones? Edit 2: happiness means different things to different people at different times. People in dangerous places, dictatorships and countries wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:28 PM
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Yes, I guess that’s a risk, albeit a small one... But honestly, how hard is it to find something better to write than “hi” or “how bout some nudes?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:19 PM
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He is pretty attractive, yes. However, I was too. Just to contribute to the discussion about pickiness and about how easy it is for so called ugly men and women respectively to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:17 PM
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Seems a lot of men replying that women are too picky while at the same time admitting to not put in any effort... so women are not worth the effort and you’ wondering why they don’t pick you? It was better before, when women didn’t have a choice. When they had to do all the housework and wait for a suitable husband to court her. Sounds like a lot of fun for us! Yey!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:15 PM
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To be fair, you can send the exact same original prose to all 1000. Or tweet it a bit if it doesn’t work...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:09 PM
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Well, that’s what we notice when we don’t know the guy... it’s different if the guy we haven’t noticed also is funny, smart and interested in me as a person. Then he has way better odds...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:07 PM
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Purely anecdotal but just discussed with my husband if he’d ever had sex with an ugly woman, because he liked her personality. He said no, never, all the ones he’d had sex with were beautiful. Me, being a super attractive woman (well, at least when I was on the dating scene), I have. On several occasions. Two very overweight guys and one both overweight and crooked teeth and nothing else that made up for it in the looks department. I just really liked them. Two of them were longish relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:00 PM
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I know this is a late reply. But why do you think I would not wamy legislation to include men in the countries that don’t yet? Of course I do. And as I pointed out, it was a feminist effort that changes the law to include men to start with! Also, once again you misunderstand. Masculinity is not equal to men. Women also have a perception of masculinity which shapes their expectations of men. But It is not toxic masculinity that perpetrates the rape of course, it’s the perception of masculinity th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:50 PM
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By looks alone, maybe 5 %. However, when an okay looking guy has a good personality he makes the cut. Hell, even an ”ugly” who’s funny and smart and caring makes it! (Now, I’m very happily married so I tend to not look at guys at all, and the percentage would be much higher when I was single)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:31 PM
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Sorry you misunderstood me. What I said was the complete opposite of what you think I said :-) I mean that men who are raped are not taken seriously because of the societal view of men being a certain way. This is wrong to me, some men ARE not able to show emotion, but most are. If we saw men as individuals, not as "a vessel for masculinity", we would learn to see men as victims as well. Both the ones who are uncomfortable showing emotions and the ones that aren't. Also "toxic masculinity" is NO…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:40 AM
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And another thing, feminism has helped men through giving women more freedom in the workplace. Freeing men from the burden of being the sole breadwinner, allowing them to spend more time with their kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:22 PM
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I agree entirely with you when it comes to male rape victims receiving little attention and/ or sympathy. But there is research being done within genders studies and feminist therory brining up exactly these points... the view that men should be strong and stoic and dominant is one of the reasons they make less compelling victims... Feminism in the seventies was a white women’s movement for emancipation and this is what most seem to picture when they hear the word feminism. However a lot has cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:08 PM
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No, it’s about changing harmful attitudes. Just as women sometimes are the worst offenders when it comes to upholding harmful beliefs about femininity, men are also upholding harmful beliefs about themselves. Harmful both to themselves and others. Feminism is deconstructing these beliefs and trying to point out their uselessness. Feminism has been working academically but also politically. For example towards bringing fathers home at the same time as letting women out of the home. But also it ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:13 PM
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/unheralded-women-scientists-finally-getting-their-due-180973082/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 10:24 PM
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Unwilling or unable? You seem to think of us as not wanting to do "a man's job" when in fact, and still today, women who want to get into a male dominated field have a rough time. Not because they can't, but because they aren't just casually allowed in... I agree with you that historical hierarchies are based on more than just gender, obviously a homeless man in the 18th century had it worse than a queen. Yet in every group, there were subdivisions. Rich women were generally disadvantaged compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:31 PM
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And with that attitude you think you’ll find someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:05 PM
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They weren’t. They were seen as such. Big difference;) Although when you say men are the creators of civilisation it implies that it is because men are better. Especially since this comment is in response to that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:56 PM
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Of course, just as the experience of a woman of colour or a lesbian is different from the experience of a white straight woman. Which is why there’s intersectionality... There sure are separatist radical feminists that hate men but they are a small minority. The large majority is actually pro male emancipation. But you keep believing whatever is more comfortable for you to believex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:53 PM
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Oh my god, we just want to be treated with respect, not like a piece of meat. If you treat your male friends in a way that would make a woman cry, you’re not only deeply confused about women, you’re also probably an asshole towards your own friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:43 PM
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I don’t know about other women but I kind of like being treated like a human being instead of a pair of legs that might just open up to you if you figure out the right password. Attraction comes from interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:40 PM
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Two things. Women have, generally speaking, historically enjoyed very few of the freedoms and opportunities men have, literally barred from education and politics. Also, the women who have contributed despite this have sometimes (quite often) been left out of the history books giving children in school the impression men have, by themselves, made history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:31 PM
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We don't. The study is about gender related choices in careers. Has nothing to do with how we treat each other in our interpersonal relationships. Which is what we're talking about here. We don't have a parent staying at home with the kids after the age of about one, so there are practically no housewives here, the split in staying at home that first year is about 70 for mothers / 30 for fathers, which is on the rise (for fathers) despite our economy growing. But yes, there are fields in the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:57 PM
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If you are a male gynecologist I would certainly hope you understand female anatony better than I. That is kind of the point of going to a professional. Have you done any masculinity studies in the gender study field? It is a field less dominated by women, actually full of male feminists. Women's negative views on men also relate to the current sociodynamic situation. Both founded and unfounded bias relate to the masculinity ideal of men being dominant, violent and resistant to feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:36 PM
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Any other info than Twitter? Like real facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 08:48 PM
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You don’t choose homosexuality...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:32 PM
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But there are spieces, some birds and apes, that have practically no sex differences. Also, there are female species that devour males after copulating ;) So we don’t always haven’t to look at nature. If one gender (or probably both) is dissatisfied with the conditions under which they should perform their sex, is that not enough to try and loosen them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:27 PM
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I am very curious on what you mean. I live in Sweden, which is a very egalitarian (not yet 100% perfect) society. It is very common for women to pursue, propose and take other steps to advance a relationship. How do you mean egalitarian societies reinforce gendered behaviour? Because when I look at gender in the US, there are things about being a woman or being a man over there that, to us, feel like the fifties...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:12 PM
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What? So patriarchy=men and therefore feminism doesn’t deal with it??? No, it has to do with a system from which society is arranged. For example men should be strong and not cry, they should be able to win a fight or take a beating without complaining. If they are the victims of domestic abuse they are weak and laughable, they are the breadwinners and don’t have to deal with the kids and home... they are sexual beings ready to have sex any time with anyone. All of these are part of the toxic ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 08:03 AM
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I have a very (very) high N count due to the fact that I was objectified from a very young age and by my late teens thought I wasn't worth anything more. That hasn't stopped me from finding love at a later age and being happily and faithfully married for eleven years now. Just saying. Past behaviour doesn't always predict future behaviour. And if my husband had had a problem with my N number, we wouldn't have had this great marriage full of understanding, shared values and total compassion for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:37 AM
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Increased computer time might have something to do with it... just sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:49 PM
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OMG. Do you actually believe yourself? I have lots of friends that are girls that have varied success with boys and lots of friends that have had various success with girls. And I think that's true for everyone. And no, being a slut is still an insult. Do you feel sluts are liberated empowered women? I would be very surprised if you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 05:31 PM
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Well, that's the point. It's NOT the same. Girl slut = bad. Boy slut = good... ​
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:29 PM
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Just respondimg to your comment on the male judges having to follow guidelines. The guidelines weren't some kind of divive law, the guidelines were put there by other men. ​ I mean I don't necessarily think it matters who wrote the rules nor who is enforcing them. A lot of women are complicit in their own subjugation so... and toxic masculinity (which I define as the part of masculinity encouraged by culture but harmful to both themselves, other men and women) is encouraged by a lot of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:27 PM
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Well, since you aren't the victim of either of those crimes, your morals and feels must be the judge of which attack you feel is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:23 PM
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Man-whore etc... are they really derogatory? I would say not...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:13 PM
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And women wrote the guidelines?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:12 PM
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And whom might be the offender in those situations? Women? Also, always good to tell a victim of violence ans assault that you know people who have been worse off than they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:11 PM
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I have been married for ten years. Before having children, we had a very active sex life. But we have 4 kids now. During my pregnancies, my libido's been fine but after childbirth it just lays dormant for about a year to then sloooowly return. I've also been breastfeeding them all quite a long time and that is absolutely one factor, someone else has "dibs" on my body. For context. I am very happily married to my soulmate and we do have maintenece sex, maybe once a week, as there´s nothing wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 06:50 PM
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If women’s natural role was at home with the children, how come we now want more? And don’t say “it’s the feminists”. These feminists are women too. Why did feminists want to leave the home and how come so many women were quick to follow? One would think that if the gender separation was natural and fair, that it would remain the way it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:14 PM
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So. Women’s role in society is to breed and take care of children? In that sentiment, men’s role in society should be to provide financially for women and children. Men’s role gives them an opportunity to pursue their own interests outside of the family. Granted, not all jobs are self fulfilling, but they reward the worker with money. Women’s work. does no such thing, taking care of children is unpaid work. o by your own logic, it is essential for a woman to get herself a man who can provide for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:36 AM
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Wait. So women evolved to take care of children, which makes them miserable. Yet they would be happier if they spent ALL their time caring for children? Also where does the inherent female selfishness come into this picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:53 PM
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Mothering instinct = selfish instinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:56 AM
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