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No StandardsAoriMVR/r/MGTOW05/10/16 06:36 AM
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AoriMVR/r/PussyPass15/08/16 09:44 AM
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AoriMVR/r/MensRights01/10/16 11:07 AM
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DiscussionAoriMVR/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 04:38 AM
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AoriMVR/r/MGTOW04/09/16 12:28 AM
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"Parties shall take the necessary measures to encourage all members of society, especially men and boys, to contribute actively to preventing all forms of violence covered by the scope of this Convention" If there is a war you will be obligated to fight in order to protect women.
/r/MensRights20/12/16 09:18 PM
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If youre not in a union then youre a scab and against fair pay and working conditions!
/r/MensRights20/12/16 06:33 AM
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This would still fit in with the fact that men are considered the beasts of burden in the gender arrangement. Maybe if women did the proverbial heavy lifting then theyd have the shorter life?
/r/MensRights18/12/16 08:05 AM
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I use the term radical pragmatic centrist. I dont see any political party as having the answers but think democracy works best when there is a stable balance of power between many groups.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 05:43 AM
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"Manflu"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:23 PM
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Looks like theyre trying to hijack movember. Pricks
/r/MensRights01/11/16 06:24 AM
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Both feminists and any self respecting man sees a white knight as a huge joke. This is simply some rad fems observing women like cassie jaye/girlwriteswhat and terms like 'red pill' and trying to employ their own cheap-knock off devices like 'woke' and manginas.
/r/MensRights31/10/16 11:29 PM
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Like a wild animal backed in a corner...
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 11:18 PM
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I actually would love to see men cast off their thirst for the female image. Because all of a sudden all these women that depend on looks to survive will be left desperate and forced to grow up
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 08:00 AM
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Focus on health not image. Perfect image is impossible to achieve but any effort towards health is good.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 07:48 AM
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Nothing inherently wrong with porn but like all addictions if your consumption is unhealthy then its a bad thing. I see the porn industry in the same moral light of betting/pokies groups that encourage gambling from problem gamblers.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 06:12 AM
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How do you explain women that fuck dogs? And why is it different to men fucking sheep?
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 11:28 PM
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If the woman isnt pregnant or raising pre school-age kids then why the fuck is she staying home? Doing meager chores like using a washing machine or dishwasher is not "a full time job"
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 01:49 PM
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Can thank the simpsons for this.
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 07:21 AM
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"Children are a product of women’s bodies, therefore they belong to women." Ive heard this so many times before. Definition of slavery..
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 07:20 AM
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Raising them not to depend on looks to get ahead and utilise critical reasoning skills to assess all ideologies they might otherwise be exposed to later in life.
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 02:28 AM
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Jordan B. Peterson oh thanks this awesome!
/r/MensRights25/10/16 11:02 AM
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For orbiters and the possibility that youll still act as a resource i.e. fix stuff/emotional validity/
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 05:26 AM
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Men aged 18 - 21 couldnt vote until vietnam war
/r/MensRights25/10/16 04:25 AM
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in all fairness the cringe vids probably are best suited for MGTOW. i think Mens rights sub is trying to differentiate itself from other subs by focusing on socio-political occurences rather than shock/cringe value. not dissing the MGTOW sub but it has got more of that feel.
/r/MensRights23/10/16 09:18 AM
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Whos the lecturer? I wanna watch their videos.
/r/MensRights23/10/16 07:37 AM
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Probably the same place as the statement that "men want sex more/think about sex/are sexual beasts/slaves to their base instincts". Men are just constructed as the sexual predator because we have to do all the leg work.
/r/MensRights22/10/16 03:39 AM
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Fucking handstands, wtf? Filters, filters, filters. Bio: "Umm, i dont know. Ask". "Must be 6ft" "Not your average kind of girl". Proceeds to describe average and boring traits, interests. Muscle pose/gym shots. How about lifting a book once in a while. "I want a man who can make me laugh/do X for me" "I have kids, they are my world, i dont have enough time for you, like it or leave."
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 02:16 AM
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Define "man" and ill decide whether i think its toxic or not.
/r/MensRights19/10/16 04:20 AM
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I read this article from a different source months ago. Cant even write anything original
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 01:55 PM
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1800s - early 1900s: "womens brains are smqller and inferior to mens" Today: "men are genetically inferior" At least we could come up with original material.
/r/MensRights08/10/16 03:58 AM
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as MGTOW i think its important to remind men that as men we have an infinite capacity to overcome any problem. she wants to "open up a marriage"? lets play the game that maximises our best interests... i dont consider this to be PUA either, as im lazy af and have no need to chase women if ive got part timers on the side thinking theyre empowering themselves.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 03:14 AM
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Bingo!
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 02:11 AM
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I never said it would work for married people. If i was married again and she talked about poly id leave. However if youre the guy she wants to bang on weekends then cool.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 01:07 AM
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Accusations are quickly diffused when you have proof of vasectomy and whilst polyamory remains a marginalised subculture i reckon accusations of rape would be minor but STDs and postal mangina bfs could be a risk, but of course dealing with a woman carries those risks anyways (prostitution included).
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 10:52 PM
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I think poly can work but ONLY if you: Have a vasectomy Have your own place Treat it like the part-time, non-committal relationship it is
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 10:06 PM
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Will this be recorded or streamed anywhere?
/r/MensRights07/10/16 12:58 PM
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Holy shit he got old and fat
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 07:11 AM
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Ive heard on frequent occasions of women who are single or lesbian being encouraged to just go out and hook up with a random man, get pregnant and raise the kid without him evening knowing or seeing him ever again. Kinda like a cheap sperm donor. How on earth is that even considered a reasonable suggestion?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 06:44 AM
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Id say it has to do with stress/poverty of the mother. Guys from poor rough backgrounds seem more resilient. Further back you go the tougher the conditions too
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 06:40 AM
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But would they convict the killer or the solicitor to the longer sentence? I dont think manipulation can be a factor here. There was no coercion or threat and she had a masters so she wasnt exactly dumb. I mean if you go to a mistress and she gets you to do some humiliating stuff youre still in control because youre carrying out the act even if you think youre surrendering to her
/r/MensRights06/10/16 06:32 AM
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Its a fucking gorilla. Grow the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 06:47 AM
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These are the kind of guys that we're all being depicted as. What you want is some reverse red pill. What youre advocating is no different to a TRPer doing weights for the sole purpose of fucking. Difference is you just get your kicks from the power of turning down a woman instead of ejaculating. You wont find what youre looking for here
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 09:12 PM
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Still keep a copy and elevate it. Even better get a bunch of other people in the same boat and get them all to approach principal
/r/MensRights01/10/16 02:26 PM
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You should have the outline of what papers are graded on. It should be a generic dot point list. Take this with your marked paper and elevate it above her. Dont go to the meeting without a witness or voice recorder. On a side note, surely you didnt expect anythibg less did you?
/r/MensRights01/10/16 09:24 AM
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Women can go to a public space near children and not have others think pedo scare. Women can coincidentally walk behind someone and not have people think theyre about to get mugged. Women are assumed to be naturally caring. Women are put on the same level of social protection as children. When women look after their child theyre parenting, not 'babysitting'. Women have greater chances of community programs/scholarships. Women are less likely to: be homeless, attacked in public, go to prison, hav…
/r/MensRights30/09/16 11:40 PM
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This sounds like a bs anecdote article written by a woman. I cant think of a single person who would just abstain from sex and then all of a sudden want it after 6 years.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 02:20 AM
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Woman: "Women tame men" *proceeds to whinge about historical oppression and powerlessness.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 12:47 AM
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Theres no such thing as altruism. Every selfless act can be put down to conforming to an imposed moral code. We act moral because it would bring internalised guilt or shame and conflict with our sense of self if we do otherwise
/r/MensRights30/09/16 12:44 AM
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I was thinking something similar. How often do you see a woman thinking with her ovaries and swooning after some provider? It just doesnt have the same ring as 'dick' though does it?
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 01:26 PM
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The awesome thing about MGTOW above all else is the fact that, although there is enough social pressure and evidence for men to just be put off' LTRs, you dont need any justification to decide marriage isnt for you. You dont have to do jack shit you dont wanna do. If society is mad at you for doing your own thing and not following the marriage/kids/white-picket-fence plan then fuck em! Who cares? The fact that theyre whinging about something that has no baring on their life tells you theyre fuck…
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 01:24 PM
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Yeah, pretty much.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:20 PM
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Id call myself moderate. I have no problem dealing with women and dont hate them. My divorce was awesome, my exwife is my best mate and we have an awesome daughter. But i dont trust in marriage or long term relationships. Ive seen how people can promise you everything and then just change quite quickly. There are no safeguards for men in LTRs and there is no pay off. I can have female friends and relate to them and just fuck a chick every now and then but you will never catch one moving in with …
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 04:42 AM
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this attitude is awesome and will get you points. But i have no sympathy for those who just want society to change rather than continue their own struggles as best they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:08 PM
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Im wondering if people are divorcing just so they can join the club of writing these shitty blogs.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:54 PM
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pedos share and like pics too but i wouldnt call them mentally healthy. Narcissism is the same.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 01:08 PM
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A socially accepted mental disease but dont call it that, its not PC.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 05:36 AM
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Yeah, shes saying "someone notice me! Im insecure about the fact that im nobody and crave your validation."
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 04:39 AM
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Agreed. You cant have relationships with women anyway when relationships are seen as business agreements. If you have no investment in a woman, dont care if she comes or goes, no children or marriage but enjoy her company every now and then then why not go poly? Whats the point of monogamy? Shes gonna fuck other guys whether youre monogamous or not. Better to just not invest and have part time fwb type situation.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 03:16 AM
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well not really. the guy who did the deed didnt put it on social media. it was the other guy
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 12:37 PM
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I think i get what youre saying. I can understand phantom limb, brain-body map issues etc so dysphoria i think is real. But whereas for most people we dont actually know what it is to be a man or woman, we only know what it is to be ourselves. Society then tells us to interpret the experience of ourselves as 'man' and 'woman', 'male' and 'female'. If youd never seen another human before you wouldnt have any dimorphic interpretation of yourself. Thats not to say you wouldnt experience things that…
/r/MensRights25/09/16 11:11 PM
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i initially thought trans was solely a biological issue but ive been reading a bit of the forums over there and finding theres a schism between those with dysphoria and those who are 'gender fluid' and want to be women. i think those who are gender fluid with no biological cause are a prime example of the effect demonising masculinity is having on some men. they dont identify with the big boogie man rapist or the macho 80s rambo so they assume they must be more effeminate to the point of being w…
/r/MensRights25/09/16 02:19 PM
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this person is a numbskull. but poly actually looks like a reasonable alternative to MRAs who dont wanna go MGTOW but dont want marriage either. my first suggestion though is getting a vasectomy. you dont want to get involved in that baby mix up shit. poly is the perfect excuse to fuck a chick on a part time basis, not live with her and palm her off to some other guy when youre done. i can see why feminists love it though as theres the possibility of legalising it and maximising alimony or child…
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 01:57 PM
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err.. very well. wherever you see the term 'west' exchange for 'white colonised nations'. ffs who the fuck apart from you actually thinks im referring to the direction west? if i use the term 'global south' in a post related to poverty would you rant off the same spiel?
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 09:14 AM
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I disagree. Morality is not relative its functionalist and has cause/effect. It was the post-modernist relativism that led to the state of bullshit today. Strong objectivism, stand point theory and political correctness is about being rid of a grand narrative and accepting everyone as they are. What the OP advocates here is good but it does have its own cause/effects both good and bad. Not adhering to social rules for example often leads to social isolation. But if you dont care then more power …
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 05:08 AM
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This is what freemasonry was for. Youd be better off promoting the revival of fraternities.
/r/MensRights24/09/16 03:37 PM
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Good read!
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 02:51 PM
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Yeah your point is alot clearer. I dont really share your libertarian views though. Theres a lot my taxes go to that i do support, like ensuring i dont live completely in an aristocracy or enforcing environmental/health regulations of multinationals.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 10:55 PM
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your response is about as deluded as your assertion that im a woman, you fuck-knuckle. Do you even have any idea what im talking about or did you read something about women getting power and decided to make some screeching sounds? Lonewolf? Youd be better off in forever alone.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 10:50 PM
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Ahh this just comes down to how you define 'winning'. I dont consider hedonistic pursuits of sex as winning. And if its getting out your genetic seed then sperm donors are king.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 10:47 AM
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MGTOW doesnt have community, but there are groups of guys that congregate over butt hurt. The only thing youre talking about here is whether those butt hurt guys are allowed to meet and bitch about women. News flash, no one, especially MGTOW, gives a shit whether youre butthurt over butthurt guys. Youre not saving anyone, youre just whinging about whingers. Its nonsensical. A good third of the internet is probably people whinging, let them go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 10:45 AM
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What exactly is the point here? How does some guys checking out affect you? Do you really need every soul to agree with your world view so you can feel secure? This post seems like a waste of digital space.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 09:45 AM
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Not really. Harems and polygymous marriages are quite common throughout early history
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 05:40 AM
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This reply is not very coherent, do you want to try again?
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:06 AM
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so is every ideology when taken to its ultimate expression. whats your point? whatever your point is it doesnt account for why there is a sudden growth of home terrorism.
/r/MGTOW17/09/16 03:40 AM
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So western born muslim youth have been carrying out terrorist attacks on home soil since late 1800s?
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 11:38 PM
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More libertarian shit. Gtfo. Theres a reason why inequality shot up after the introduction of atlas shrugged. Im not really keen on the return of an aristocracy even if the government is fucked.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 08:00 AM
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Like the radicalisation of muslim youth in the west kicking in a generation after 9/11, we're going to see the radicalisation of some young men as a result of constantly being told theyre creeps, rapists, violent and neckbeards. This will create a feed back loop where the media sensationalises these events as symptomatic of all men, further vilifying them which then spurns more radicalised young men.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 07:56 AM
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smartest post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:59 AM
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You might be a bit confused. Im trying to say its the other way round. If they dont have the training then its not white knighting. If they do, then it is.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 02:41 AM
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Everyone should do this and post their photos here. Points for most creative graffitti
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 01:45 AM
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Way i see it unless something generally requires a skill or trait (strength, specialisation) to complete then you cant blame them. If they could have completed a simple task themselves then theyre just lazy af. Edit: IF it requires trainibg, cant blame them.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 01:30 AM
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Well i bet that just turned a bunch of manginas against the feminist cause. Here comes a shitload of further biased polls...
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 10:41 PM
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Another woman confusing the political ideology of feminism with 'equality'. Feminism is a critical theory. It has a specific interpretation of equality and how to achieve it.
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 01:33 PM
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If she just couldnt figure it out then yeah. Thats white knighting. If it was genuinely stuck and she knew what to do but just needed an extra pair of hands then no. Basically if you can put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself "could i have done this without help and without specialist knowledge/training?". If the answer is yes then youd be white knighting. If the answer is no then youre just being a decent person. White-knighting is gender specific. If you white knight a man then youre jus…
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 01:30 PM
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You need to read into BPD (borderline personality disorder). If she has it then stay the fuck away. BIG TIME! Really any mental disorder where shes basically disabled and cant work means youre a carer. Do you want to be a carer for the rest of your life?
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 09:41 PM
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I dont support the overly sexist elements here. But philosophically its better than any other aspect of the manosphere. You have to accept there will be rage for many young men newly coming into any red pill truths but if this subreddit becomes too much of an echo chamber then ill leave.
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 09:18 PM
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this only really refers to desire. youre most likely not her first choice, you're just the one she settled with.
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 03:29 AM
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Well im definitely in the right place. Its women thinking with their ovaries that make muscle heads with lack of self control 'alpha'. My ideal of man is more 'jean luc picard/gandalf' type stuff. Wise, strong and not led by their dicks.
/r/MGTOW13/09/16 12:19 AM
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Job market looks saturated. But dont worry, they can always invent new problems.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 11:31 PM
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If you want the 1950s type wife then you should expect to be the 1950s type husband. That makes you the sole breadwinner to a wife that stays home all day. Difference is your stay at home wife wont need to work as much as a 1950s sahw because of the wonders of modern technology. You really wanna let someone retire early and take advantage of you as a work horse?
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 11:28 PM
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"Men don’t give women their seat anymore ... Its that men still think their place, their comfort and their butt is more important than a woman’s." Well what is it? Are we 'still' entitled or are we 'less' considerate?
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 11:20 PM
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Yeah for sure. Lesbians i think deal with the same shit as hetero-men (at least half of them anyways. The non-lipstick types). Gay men probably have some similar dynamics and id be interested in hearing their experiences but from an outside perspective theyre living a life most mgtow would probably be a little envious over.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 02:15 PM
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I thought this article was gonna go somewhere... then it just didn't. Out of the two people in this picture, who appears to be the happiest? Thats right, the guy not giving a fuck and playing fifa.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 01:48 PM
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The only way i see this working is if men and women hold out for 3 -6months until they work out whether the person is actually relationship material. Sleeping with someone within a couple of hours of meeting them at a pub and thinking anything might come of it is retarded. All men and women who pick someone up should assume its a ONS unless otherwise stated. Even 2 weeks isnt long enough to know if someone is relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:05 AM
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If men are manginas when it comes to their daughters its because they are still stuck on the whole "girls are fragile/dont hit a girl" bs. I rough house with my 3 yr old daughter all the time. Shes just as tough as i was as at that age and loves it. Has a teenage mutant nonja turtle outfit and everything.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 05:25 AM
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Thats cool. You should be free to say what you want. If i dont agree ill still listen and if im offended it gives me an opportunity to understand something about my self. Fuck safe spaces and trigger warnings.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 05:22 AM
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Thats ok im not riled up. I just type passionately. Chad pays, he just pays less than other guys and most probably less than the woman was haggling for.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 04:59 AM
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You have to ask yourself why a woman would need to sign up for this in the first place? Why isnt there as large a number of men doing the same? Sites like this are simply evidence of an exchange of services between men and women. Resources for sex or female intimacy. Its that exchange that i call AWALT on. Whether its a site like this, prostitution or marriage the exchange is the same. How men and women facilitate that exchange differs based on what a person considers 'moral'.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 04:24 AM
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"My point is: Don’t assume it’s gender just because it looks like a gender problem." In other news domestic violence only happens to women and all men are rapists.
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 06:44 AM
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'Childhood for some men is being extended into 20s and 30s when they're not committing to a relationship.' no, we're just skipping that part between childhood and divorce.
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 01:58 AM
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No the problem is very much women. Men and women have different definitions of love. Men are sincere whereas women are functionalists.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 02:08 PM
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how do you protect your own life unless you understand how theyre trying to hurt you?
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 08:19 AM
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im from oz, and not really. you have seen the inquisition go through the ADF and the AFP recently right?
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 06:30 AM
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Most of us here support equality. Mgtow is actually very pro egalitarian. Feminism does not automatically equate 'equality'. Its a political theory categorically no different to socialism, libertarianism, classical liberalism, etc. Feminism has a particular interpretation of what equality looks like and how it should be achieved. Anyone who has studied this would see it has morphed so much over the years that it doesnt even look like 2nd wave feminism. Also suffragettes werent feminists. 2nd wav…
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 11:18 PM
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You dont challenge narratives that work for you.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 02:33 PM
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If women were only after sex this would be so true. Sad fact is women's desire for marriage has grown over the past decade about as much as men's revulsion. Better get used to the idea of joining a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:51 AM
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If this were true then why all the body issues? And why is it all mens fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 09:47 AM
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“This news may cause a few men in relationships to think twice about not taking the rubbish out or choosing a night down the pub in favor of a cozy night in with his partner. This could spark fear in men across the UK and be great news for women looking for that extra bit of love and care so that their attentions aren't swayed.” no, it may cause a few men to consider avoiding relationships altogether.
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 06:08 AM
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he's catching on...
/r/MGTOW06/09/16 06:04 AM
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Thats probably as close as the guardian can get to admitting somethings wrong.... completely way off the mark. "Men are just sore because theyre entitled". I hate these articles; presenting itself as though its listened to the whole other story, made a fair assessment and came to some complete conclusion.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 11:56 PM
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Errr last i checked thats not what the statistics for divorce look like. Care to try again?
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 10:26 PM
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-_-
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 06:05 AM
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yes well there is always much to be said about poor social skills. context specific and paying attention to the interests of others should precede talking about any subject
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 05:36 AM
1

thats fair enough and totally reasonable. but you can at least accept the necessity for some to talk about it and, thankfully due to the nature of group behaviour, you will always have some talk about it. so its also reasonable to not disparage or discourage those that do. you can tell i never cared for the 'dont talk about fight club' bs.
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 04:03 AM
0

mgtow was a term coined only in the last few years. you may have for all intents and purposes been mgtow but its akin to feminists of the 60s retroactively calling the suffragettes 'feminists'. the irony here is, you must have come across a subreddit or heard someone use the term mgtow before you could carry the label and its served you well too. youve found others with similar dispositions as yourself and you share within a community. but if it werent for that one person who spoke about mgtow y…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 03:29 AM
2

yeah which is typically why its so hard to find it when you dont know what your looking for. if someone had of said to me after my divorce "dont try to date again, check this out." i would have felt less foolish trying to genuinely date and get to know a person for who they are and being chewed out by the post-30s dating game.
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 02:29 AM
2

Im glad i have kids sorted. I used to have the same ambition to be provider, have house and raise kids with wife but now im just gonna focus on living a modest/comfortable life; pursue short term projects/interests/short courses; be apart of community initiatives from time to time and above all focus on an actual relationship with my children which would have been difficult for a man slaving at a desk job to support a woman to do it.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 11:59 PM
11

The master gave the work horse a carrot. So cute. After this im just envisioning him realising how fucked his life is and he goes through the RP rage.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 11:25 PM
5

Heres george carlin's advice on this subject https://youtu.be/7W33HRc1A6c
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 08:14 AM
1

Its too late to go back. We're done. TradCons can keep their 1950s dream because thats all it was... a dream.
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 10:47 AM
1

Bond with her as much as possible. Show her that relationships with some men are great. Give her time and support. Never stop trying even when it seems difficult. Show her the value of duty, honesty and respect. Dont treat her like a princess, but prepare her to be an adult. Raise her not to be entitled; to work hard and find joy in that effort; to value the higher attributes of mankind; practice humility, etc. Above all lead by example. I have a daughter myself and its something i ask myself of…
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 10:35 AM
6

Let me use a metaphor feminists like to use when referring to #notallmenarerapists. If you had a bowl of jellybeans and one of them was poisonous would you still take a chance with one? Difference is men have a much higher chance of meeting a bpd chameleon looking for a meal ticket than women do of meeting a rapist.
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 10:07 AM
3

This is clearly because women dont fart and therefore release carbon emissions. Probably also explains why this article is full of air.
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 07:53 AM
1

I reckon masturbation still sounds better. Maybe try both simultaneously? Isnt that how david carradine went?
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 02:54 PM
2

'hand myself'
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 08:38 AM
1

Im reminded everyday by the fact that i see my daughter everyday and tuck her in to bed at night :D
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 02:09 PM
2

Meh, we've planned this for 2 years. But if anyone else is looking for divorce it probably wouldnt hurt
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 02:06 PM
0

Well, whats important is that she thinks its real.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 10:14 AM
1

Thanks! Inever really had it that bad, but im more looking forward to embracing a life where marriage/kids/white picket fence is not the main goal. Living a post-marriage life and having realised just how lucky i am to have not found 'the one'(i.e. psycho bpd ex-wife) makes me feel really fortunate.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 06:27 AM
-7

Maybe when theyre 16 and easily influenced. When theyre post 30 and actually mature its a bit different.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 05:46 AM
3

If youre looking for more paradigm shifts then youtube adam curtis. The man will scare the shit out of you.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 03:25 PM
2

probably because half of them have to put up with the same shit as us with regards to relationships. the other half are known as 'lipsticks' and theyre as every bit obnoxious as they sound.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 06:26 AM
1

Lol
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 03:26 AM
4

See: definition of rape.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 03:24 AM
1

One in 25. And thats without any law requiring partners to come clean.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 03:18 AM
2

Well war time usually means highly conservative/pro-nationalist governments are elected so i suspect youll be on the front lines with the men
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 10:16 PM
1

I just intend to accumulate a shit load of debt through university, or maybe borrow a shitload of money before i die and donate it a grass roots charity.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 02:28 PM
0

Reincarnation and rebirth are different concepts. Reincarnation involves an enduring aspect beyond the flesh like the soul but intrinsic to a sense of self. Rebirth as you described is just the rebirth of one moment into the next
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:49 PM
2

my ex wife of 9 years is still pretty awesome. she came out gay which probably explains why we often had similar thinking. i have had my crazy share though but i would have to say it was getting back into the dating game after nearly 10 years ans seeing how radically different everything was that put me on to redpill and subsequently mgtow. marriage was still a possibility when everyone knew their role, but today this shit is just insane.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 01:19 PM
1

Tell her youll marry her after 40. If shes willing to commit for the rest of her life then 'when' you get married is irrelevant. If she holds out til 40 then itll be post-wall and shell be less likely to leave.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 09:02 AM
-2

Lol. So true. Reincarnation isnt even buddhist, its hindu. Buddhism follows the principle of anatman. Better to interpret the bardot states as it was intended, specifically in reference to the human states of mind. The only reason why chan took on so much bon superstition was it allowed for easier assimilation.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:49 AM
1

Wise words. I spent a long time with the same issues. For every one real gem of truth youll find yourself spammed by 1000s of charlatans selling snake oil. Interestingly buddhism will probably be a lot like mgtow in this way. A lot of peopke have their own ideas about it; better to keep them at arms length and employ the buddha's gold test 'rub, scratch, burn'.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 10:49 AM
19

I vote not to post articles written solely to express the limited opinions of whiney people unless they have some impact on my life or show some statistic. Im getting tired of reading these articles only to work out halfway through that they have no substantial information to contribute to the gender debate.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 08:47 AM
4

If buddha nature is timeless and precedes the world of forms, and, all beings possess buddha nature but have obscured their true nature with the world of forms, then, even if one can be 'released' from the cycles of time, it will only be temporary. This is why the buddha said Nibbana and samsara are the same. All finite beings are brought into existence because of the infinite potential of sunyata. Finite forms eternally rise and fall. Even if you remember youre true nature and are released from…
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 08:04 AM
37

Amber's lawyers complained depp would get a sizable tax return by making the donation himself. Guess who was sore over the fact that he beat them to their own game?
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 01:01 AM
1

Even if they were, the difference now is their opinions dont count and no one cares. If you have a jerk boss its just standard.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 10:48 AM
1

'Cant be fucked'
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 10:46 AM
1

Hard times make hard men.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 01:13 AM
5

Agreed! This explains my frustrations on many of these sites. That alpha/beta mentality happens when guys get too insecure about themselves. Eventually you get to a point when you just cbf.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 01:07 AM
1

Oh my critique was at wording that i felt may have been interpreted poorly. Too many people have misconceptions of buddhism that it shrouds its awesome philosophies.
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 03:20 PM
2

Interesting theory on political control. I know the apocryphal works like the gospel of thomas puts a real buddhist spin on jesus' teachings. You only have to view god as sunyata, the word as the tathagatagarba, jesus way, truth and light as the buddha and four noble truths to see the striking comparisons. Even jesus' moment with the devil vs gautama/maya is similar. Actually i always thought pureland sect/amitabha was like the buddhist version of modern day christianity. Funny
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 03:18 PM
4

Dude, you cant be that dense. Women are practically built with insecurities... Even the pretty ones. Im not generally into evo psych as much as the other trpers but i suspect female insecurity is the drive behind mate selection. Youve had 'tonnes' of women all tell you, YOU, all the ins and outs of their sexual proclivities that happened to all end in multiple orgasms with strangers? Just in general conversation? And only because the stranger was hot? Are you confusing those off hand anecdotes b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 11:51 AM
2

We could go on about how in X scenario fictional alpha man always has a magical super power where "He will just kiss it and make her enjoy it" but the fact is im interested in dealing with actual reality not some 80s super hero. Whats more concerning here is that the actions and reactions of every woman in your little narrative, or this ability for every woman to just "know" a man is sexually skilled is reading more like a fantasy. You have this small world idea that if you just reach alpha stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 11:40 AM
3

Im guessing shes really genuinely laughing at your jokes too and really does want to learn guitar/cars/gaming and not just saying it to lock you into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:46 AM
5

Youre clearly a young person. It shows when you have to draw on these nonsense fairytale ideas of beta/alpha stereotypes rather than experience. You probably actually believe rambo is a real person. Guys who are confident with women are generally good at one thing. Talking shit. They act confident and are able to convince a person of something that they want to hear. This rarely translates into being good in bed and furthermore a womans orgasm is not based on strict physical technique in the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:42 AM
6

That logic doesnt really follow. A woman beds a man on the basis that she thinks he's an alpha. In ONS scenarios people are usually strangers. She cant know before sleeping with him whether he's good in bed. If she doesnt tell him of her experience either and he only ever beds a woman once then he never really has the chance to know if he's any good or to perfect his skills. A man in a LTR however does learn what works and what doesnt... for one particular woman. But the ability to pick up on si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 07:01 AM
4

"Believe in the buddha" probably isnt the best choice of words. He wasnt really a god in the jesus sense. Just a dude who realised some stuff and suggested a method for others to do the same. You could say he went mgtow after he left the palace and before he gained buddhahood, but once he experienced ultimate realisation he no longer pursued 'self interest'.
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 06:30 AM
1

I doubt it. Theres too much waste with nuclear weapons. You cant occupy the territory and mutually assured destruction is too high of a risk. WW3 will be won by the development of a new super weapon, specifically, AI. The money being invested in cyber warfare is crazy but a lot of it still depends on (and is limited by) human control/direction. The military that creates AI first and applies it to its cyber attacks will have a huge advantage in both offense and defense. This also why all major mi…
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 05:05 AM
1

I hear many fans get divided over this. Thankfully ive always been very diverse in my tastes and i love artists that are always reinventing themselves. After all, life is at times serene and chaotic so why shouldnt music reflect this?
/r/MGTOW24/08/16 03:19 AM
0

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/news/2016/8/20/domestic-violence-data-shows-women-are-not-the-only-victims.html
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 04:14 PM
1

A perfect circle for sure! But you just cant beat those 13minute tracks mixing complex riffs and esoteric lyrics. Maynard is definitely an old school fav
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 04:06 PM
2

i honestly cant pick a favourite but i definitely gravitate more towards the albums still life, damnation, orchid, my arms your hearse etc. stuff that combines the heaviness with the melodic. theres just nothing else like them
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 03:34 PM
-1

awesome article!
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 03:32 PM
1

this is hilarious. so basically... the women do all the work, take all the responsibility for the family and the men are there just for 'walking marriage' which is effectively ONS. the men obviously cant know if the woman's child is theirs so they only help raise their sister's child. apart from the lack of education and opportunities for men to pursue their own interests it sounds awesome. but one really needs to ask what exactly is a patriarchy if a patriarchy is the opposite of this? obvious…
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 06:37 AM
5

you have to be a special kind of monk to think its bad to even touch it. each to their own though. since not having sex for 18months ive reached the point where i dont desire it but if i dont fap after 2 days i start to get a little irratic. fapping has just become a biological tool to keep my thoughts and emotions in check. you could probably set your watch to it. something like this i imagine: http://www.gratefulgrapefruit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Wristwatch.jpg
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 12:50 PM
1

if men mostly left women to themselves they could probably get by with government funding and sperm donations. dont let it happen! dont relegate men to cattle where only alphas are spunked and used to artificially inseminate women, all to maintain a system that doesnt need 80% of the men (except for their tax)
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 10:00 AM
1

Sad but true.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 04:52 AM
1

Not really. We divorced out of court and had our own arrangement. We've simply made it that our children (present and future) own everything. She took responsibility for half debt and has paid it all off. Any child payments i make, i make them directly to my child. I see the food/rent/necessities that are paid for. Surrogacy is still new grounds and there is always potential risks at each stage of the contract. Plus if your child grows up and wants to know the surrogate or egg donor then you hav…
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 03:39 AM
3

Here in australia they are either trying to make women's prisons softer or advocate to close them all together. What pervades all of it is a willingness to see women prisoners as victims but an absolute lack of humanising male prisoners. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-17/female-prisoners-wa-to-be-managed-under-gender-specific-standard/7332762 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2005-02-09/opposition-promises-to-close-luxury-style-womens/633904 http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/female-imprisonment-numbe…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 11:49 PM
-1

You havent seen this film. But yeah thats a good one.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 12:12 PM
1

My ex wife was gay so its a different situation, but from what ive seen women tend to use sex as a means of emotionally hooking a guy. They see sex from a functional/utility perspective. After all we do tend to feel intimacy more through sex and physical affection. Once he's committed she then tends to not see any utility in sex unless its to coax him to do something for her (mow the lawn, etc.) or for reproduction.
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 10:37 AM
1

Awesome! My situation is pretty sweet. I met a girl at 19 and we were together for 9 years. Awesome best friend but not a lot of sex. We got married and had a kid but soon after the deadbedroom became too much. After a year of working at it she came out gay. I was bitter for a while but got it over it after a year or so. We patched up our friendship and created a new family. I ended up moving back in with her and my daughter. She doesnt ask me for any money other than what i choose to put toward…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 09:23 AM
7

Pussy pass
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 09:00 AM
0

Precisely. As sad as it is we need people to help define ourselves. Our identities are forged through our interactions with the world/or lack thereof. For me, mgtow was just about casting off the shackles of socially enforced provider roles. I love working hard though if i can find a sense of purpose in my work
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 05:00 AM
0

Well there you go. I suspect all the great philosophers, mathematicians, artists and athletes did their work primarily for the love of it too. So just keep doing what youre doing. But dont forget part of the satisfaction of making the videos you do is derived from people watching them; putting your work out there. If it wasnt then why not just "not" upload it?
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 04:53 AM
1

A lot of guys have put effort in to the mgtow movement, making vids and moderating forums, etc. Are their efforts classed as servitude?
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 04:33 AM
11

Nottingham. Im amazed his evidence wasnt thrown out on account of "not having permission"
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 03:54 AM
1

I thought mgtow was just against gender servitude? I see a life dedicated to the sciences as following in the footsteps of socrates/plato/newton etc. All of us here wouldnt even be talking about this if it werent for those kinds of men so it seems a bit arrogant to benefit from their fruits and then wig out on the future generation of men. Without a society to compare or measure ones self there really isnt much point to anything. I dont suppose your taking too much to heart the modern interpreta…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 03:38 AM
3

Take it from someone who went searching through the occult looking for answers for a long time (theosophy, thelema, freemasonry) put your energy into the arts and sciences. If you have that predisposition towards euphoria/drealisation/depersonalisation then look into zen. I found about 99% of stuff to be bunk and very little will give you the answers your seeking. Not saying its not out there, jist that most of it is rubbish. In terms of your main question, at least if you pour yourself into the…
/r/MGTOW19/08/16 02:40 AM
1

"The short answer is that almost without exception men, not women, held all positions of power. Your thinking is very black and white." on the contrary. you cant get any more black and white than men vs women... other than race (actual black vs white). again youre leaving out the important qualifiers 'wealthy' 'white' 'over non-irish background' 'property owners'. when you say "men, not women, held all positions of power" youre creating this binary argument that does not exist. what im saying is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:34 AM
1

did you read the part about what year men between ages 18-21 could vote? the overall question is how does this bare on the commonly inferred idea that because women couldnt vote until 1920 that ALL men somehow held power? why is the fact that men barely held any more power than women just passed over in silence? we do not live in a patriarchy, we live in an aristocracy. it is the wealthy who have ALWAYS held power, and now feminist groups hold power too but only by scapegoating men when they sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:10 AM
3

Sexual harrassment? Absolutely. Bullying? Not so much. Fat people get picked on for being fat, skinny people for being skinny. If men harrass women its generally sexual, if women harrass women its image based. If men harass men itll be violent. If women harass men itll be emasculation. Everyone gets shitted on, we're just shit on relative to who we are. When you say "women get it more" youre saying women get a particular type more. Of course! But youre glossing over the fact that men are also un…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 12:03 AM
3

"So yes, some of this can easily fall under that umbrella of over-sensitivity" The hamstering is strong with this one. Nobody ever said women didnt face issues in the workplace. ALL people will at some point will face it based on any number of traits and varying degrees of sensitivity. Its not a unique issue that only women face, therefore its not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:07 PM
1

Im not really doing hard searches here. The US wasnt any better but was in fact a little slower to give men the vote due to the perocial nature of all the various states. I.e some states were slower than others https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States Notice that state senators couldnt be elected by the people until quite late and even then there was still a "pol tax" which prevented…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 10:31 PM
2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:16 PM
2

Men only got the vote 10 years prior to women and due to having paid the cost of war. Dont confuse class discrimination with gender discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:00 PM
4

I hate comments like this. Fact is men have always generally been in both extremes of failure and success. You see the small minority of men who have succeeded from the extreme risks theyve taken and suggest its all some boys club that disadvantaged women but then fail to see the countless failures/deaths that have pathed those roads. There is no boys club. Men compete. If you dont make it by your own efforts then you lose. Those elitist groups who do control the gates are based on wealth not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:38 PM
1

yay. buddhist principle of annatta. i completely agree!
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 12:10 PM
-3

im getting the distinct feeling that for some unknown reason to me, mgtow depends quite dogmatically on the belief that biology and only biology can influence the personality's we exhibit. the case study on david reimer is pretty well expected. we know the brain has a map of what it thinks the body should look like and that 'map' has been the subject of some interesting phenomena like cotards syndrome or phantom limb sensations. but why you make a huge jump from saying that all human roles are b…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 10:33 AM
2

Most of the time when someone doesnt want to engage in a philosophical debate they just 'dont'. You never hear from them. They keep their thoughts to themselves and move on. Instead youre trying to get some kind of credit or 'win' a debate by professing how you just "know" and make a point of not talking about it. If you have nothing to gain from this you wouldnt have even engaged me in the first place. Instead its an ego point-scoring boost for you. You do have something to gain, by alluding to…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 09:45 AM
-3

Youre refering to sex not gender. Not everyone ascribes to ONLY sexual dimorphism. Some of us accept that there are both aspects of biology and cultural narrative. I presume youre apart of mgtow. That means youve rejected the role society expects you to carryout. That role is socially constructed. If it was strictly biological how could you go your own way?
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 09:34 AM
3

Youre right! My bad. I wasnt actually expecting someone else to respond to a comment addressed to the OP. So you randomly comment how you dont understand something and then bail often? Sounds like a pointless endeavour.
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 09:14 AM
-6

And yet still felt the need to be heard. How sad.
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 09:06 AM
6

Im simply engaging in nietszche's eternal return. Its you who asked the philosophical question of purpose
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 08:28 AM
5

Oh? Then how did you get here in the first place and what cosmic structure/god/law of physics is stopping you from coming back? Remember im talking on an infinite time line, or even better, outside this universe's dimensions of spacetime.
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 07:38 AM
7

Heres the thing: If nothing exists before birth and after death (or before and after the universe) and yet, somehow, given an infinite length of time, you still managed to come into existence, then that tells you something about "nothingness". It tells you that even if there is total nothingness youre still able to spontaneously exist. And seeing as there is no god to prevent it, you will most likely come into existence again at some infinite point in the future. In fact, given an eternity youre…
/r/MGTOW16/08/16 06:45 AM
2

Talk about timing https://mobile.twitter.com/bindelj/status/765209117837451264
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 11:18 PM
2

Then why dont you clarify what you think im implying. There is nothing inherently wrong with being anti-feminist. Ive already explained, by definition, any group that disagrees with feminist theory is anti-feminist. This does not make them anti-equality. Your response to systems of power clearly demonstrates you have no understanding of feminism as a critical theory or the point i made. It is feminism and only feminism that states women are oppressed and men are oppressors. This is a theory. A w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 03:26 PM
2

How do you identify what is anti-feminist? Very simply by anyone who presents evidence that counters feminist dogma. Mens issues challenge the feminist narrative that men are the oppressor class. If men are systematically oppressed they cant be oppressors. Your question then is completely flawed. Feminists dont protest against anti-feminists. They protest against the evidence a person presents that is counter to their theories. It is the evidence that makes them anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 02:59 PM
2

Really quite interesting how both camps have their respective biased publications that both employ very specific language to disparage the other. "When he stepped into hot water, Davies was speaking at a Justice for Men and Boys (J4MB) conference at the ExCel Centre in London. It sounds like a feeling-sorry-for-ourselves sort of outfit, opposed to sex discrimination legislation, authors of “lying feminist of the month” awards, opponents of more women in the boardroom." Every mens rights group or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 02:41 PM
4

The MRM just needs space. So long as feminists keep doing this: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/13/feminists-suspend-mens-rights-mp/ The loudest voices of MRAs will be solely focused on forcing their way onto the podium, which means pushing back at those who are trying to stop them from being heard. Frankly id rather invest my effort into real substantial change but so long as MPs demand for MRAs to be dismissed AND that be acceptable behaviour for an MP, how can there be any real progre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 02:05 PM
5

And the rest? SCUM manifesto? And i cant speak for you but taking MRAs out of context based on a few douchebags is EXACTLY why no MRA group can meet on a uni campus without being picketed against and labeled a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:44 PM
2

Apparently even this feminist has a hard time trying to dismiss all the "men are rapists" narrative. Instead she dismisses them as jokes or representative of their views but not that of feminist philosophy. Impressive hamstering here http://franklyno.tumblr.com/post/66730593551/unchecked-feminist-quotes-a-list-for-mras
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:00 PM
5

You cant give an example where feminism remains silent. But surely YOU can give an example where feminism has campaigned for affirmative action for men in traditionally female industries? Feminism helps men too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 12:51 PM
8

In an early report the prosecution raised the coincidence of the fact that she got pregnant after she realised she would have to serve a sentence.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 10:41 AM
1

Its all good. Im actually in cs so you could also be forgiven for assuming we are all in it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 08:35 AM
1

Programmer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 06:36 AM
1

Nah i dont approach women. Id much rather date a girl that can be vouched for by someone i know. Was just wondering whether women are scared of men in public transport just for being men even when theyre shorter/have less body mass (f=m*a). If so women have regressed from 2nd wave feminism in the 60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 10:37 PM
1

What if im a shorter man? If im not 'twice the size' of the woman am i still intimidating? What if she weighs more than me? Am i still intimidating then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:21 AM
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Imagine if the would be rapist had been some innocent guy she'd walked passed in the street?
/r/MGTOW11/08/16 02:07 PM
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Im quite anti-feminist, but even i can see youre confusing equality of opportunity with being biologically and culturally the same. Like the OP i hate how feminists have some how made feminism as being equivalent to saying 'gender equality'. But when you derail legitimate work such as equal opportunity for all people irrespective of gender by confusing it with some argument saying men and women are the same in every way it makes it harder to deconstruct feminism in the minds of fence sitters. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 07:43 AM
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Finally! Common sense. A 6month period after notifying the father with evidence of the childd birth/dna would allow a father to bond/pay child support before making a final decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 06:15 AM
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I agree with the latter half where a man cant re-enter the childs life after surrendering rights however if theres a time limit for when this decision is to be made and it coincides with the gestation period of when a woman can have an abortion then theres a chance the woman could hide the pregnancy of the child from the father. There should be at least a time limit of six months but it should start from when the father has evidence the child is his through DNA testing otherwise his decision may…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 06:11 AM
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Err.. life and permanent disability insurance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:41 PM
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Id be interested in seing if the statistics differentiated between 'sick' and 'terminal'. If a woman is married to a terminal husband then why leave? Theres obviously the monetary incentive of being the main beneficiary of the will whereas divorce would only allow her to get half. She may want to leave if the pain is too much but i suspect the social pressure of being nurturer aswell as the monetary incentive would explain the gender difference here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:49 AM
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When the average woman is looking for a man to take charge, 'the lead' or control either sexually or financially in the relationship she is inherently giving him power. When a woman seeks out a mate based on his wealth, social status, physical strength etc, she is helping to shape what is 'masculinity' by basic market/supply demand. Now not all people who have power will abuse that power BUT a very large majority will. The fact is there are very few in positions of power who can deal with the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:36 AM
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Can we cease referring to douchebags like that as 'alphas'? Really in what conceivable way are they alpha? The man who finds out he's been cuckolded after 11 years and then still says "fuck it. Ive been a father this long to that girl. Im not gonna stop now just because of some slut" Is more alpha in my eyes than some fuckboy chad.
/r/MGTOW29/07/16 10:34 AM
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Again ill reiterate. Society has shown those in power despise men just as much as women. Men are disposable. We wage war for those who can gain wealth. http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/turkey-coup-soldiers-beaten-raped-starved/news-story/631a2c007a9f0ecec2e749b4a24ca75d I live in fear because i know at some soon point russia will carry out an assault against a nato baltic state or china will have an altercation with the US in the south china sea, and its us men that will be drafted. We w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:03 AM
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although we disagree on some points i do like your views here. if politics is skewed it would be hard to think it isnt changing. i do not disagree that there is some work that still needs to be done especially regarding cultural and traditional ideas but we've already seen huge changes compared to 100 years ago and it is moving along fine by itself. what i adamantly oppose though is legislation that segregates genders or policies promoting affirmative action. women do not need a handicap. the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:35 AM
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well i commend you for your consistency and strength! it would be nice if more people shared your centrist views. however in terms of advocacy, im a man and am not allowed to form a group to represent mens issues on campus. i actually tried this at our university with a group of like minded men but couldnt get recognition as an interest group. instead we have to wait until its not borderline classified as a hate group. (http://sguforums.com/index.php?topic=41462.0) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 04:13 AM
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You dont need to apologise for her actions. You werent responsible. Even now she refuses to seek medical help. What i dont understand i how you can blame your father for your mothers illness. BPD doesnt strip a person of their autonomy. Women are just as capable as men taking responsibility fir their actions. Women dont need men taking responsibility for them. If a man hits a woman he's responsible for his violence and needs to take the appropriate actions to seek help. Why do you think if your …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 03:13 AM
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Firstly im a 30 year old man. There are no services for me. Secondly when i was 15 and been subjected to a life up until that point of beatings so horrific i wasnt allowed to attend school, i was afraid. At 15 i was also stronger than my mother however I chose not to hit back because she also made me feel responsible for her as a victim. You dont and can never understand what admitting to being a victim is like for a man; how just like your father we are conditioned to be the beasts of burden an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 01:19 AM
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Why do you think im passionate about it? As a child i grew up with an abusive mother. Despite several adults flagging social services they all recommended i remain in her care because she was an apparent "victim" of her own childhood. No recommendations for psychiatric intervention. Eventually id go into short term relationships unable to identify the same white knight/victim dynamic. In most cases those women would have BPD and get violent or emotionally manipulative. There are NO services for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 12:39 AM
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The same statistics used by both campaigns demonstrated men made up 25% of intimate partner homicide victims and 1/3 of DV victims not to mention the stats demonstrating a large percentage of women committed violence towards their children as well as committing infanticide. Of course if its not charged under DV she doesnt make the register. And you say i have no issues with feeling safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 12:23 AM
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you would certainly hope so except for where the officers or courts choose not to lay DV charges against a woman based on using the duluth model, or where a committee feels a womans criminal past should not be disclosed to a heterosexual male on the basis that, as the duluth model describes, violence against men is not comparable to that of violence against women. the statistics of which we obviously cannot know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 11:31 AM
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Thankfully there are officers and courts who can see blatant violence however it doesnt go into what the sentences were or whether the partner abused was also held on charges or how many instances there are where a woman does not have charges against her. But i do concede that it shows a woman can be charged with DV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:55 AM
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Its to flesh out more understanding of what the duluth model is. Ive already provided government guidelines
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:53 AM
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"The Duluth model was a well-thought-out and well-documented model underpinned with feminist theory that ascribed the men’s violence to a male need to control women and children at the individual and societal level (Gondolf, 2002)." pg 28 https://www.lifeworks.com.au/files/ResearchReport_FV.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:30 AM
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you did read the definition of integrated responses below it right? thats what im basing my argument on. and in regards to 'some' jurisdictions youve missed the whole fact that these National Policies are outlining a uniformed approach across ALL jurisdictions for better service collaboration
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:29 AM
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this is what is written in to the duluth model and its the duluth model that identifies the perpetrator. from anecdotal cases of people experiencing police intervention where a female spouse has been abusive, it seems to be accurate in practice also
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:18 AM
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The Duluth model features offender programs, community awareness-raising and training, and case management. It works in tandem with, and monitors, criminal justice services. https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/29.%20Integrated%20Responses/introduction What do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:08 AM
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http://www.theduluthmodel.org/about.html here you go, here are the trainers of Australian police and law courts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 10:00 AM
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i did. its in family law and used as a best practice model did you look. or are you asking if each police officer avoids their training and just uses some ad hoc means of dealing with incidents when theyre called to them? http://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/integrated-responses-and-best-practice/introduction
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:58 AM
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no. by definition they cannot commit DV as female violence is violence in selfdefence of systemic and societal violence perpetrated by men. even if a woman should batter a husband who is not violent towards her she is fighting against perceived patriarchal/societal violence. i accept categorical fallacy that ONLY women can access the register. http://www.theduluthmodel.org/about/faqs.html#gender
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:54 AM
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youve stated 'exclusive' not me. and considering it says "best practice models" when dealing with family legal frameworks its not exactly minor. additionally i should have to explain why government wastewater facilities wont use the duluth model.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:51 AM
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http://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/integrated-responses-and-best-practice/introduction also worth checking this out http://www.theduluthmodel.org/about/faqs.html#gender "Do women use violence as often as men in intimate relationships? When women use violence in an intimate relationship, the circumstances of that violence tends to differ from when men use violence. Men's use of violence against women is learned and reinforced through many social, cultural and institutional experiences. Women’s u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:26 AM
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i concede to the categorical fallacy. does that de-legitimate the seriousness of the language used in these campaigns? no. will this tool only be available to women? its up to the committee that reviews the applications. i suspect gay men could probably access it. maybe potential employers? but men will have no reason to access it as by definition women do not commit DV and therefore wont be on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:20 AM
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"When an application is made under Clare's Law a conviction is only to be disclosed where the person has a relevant offence in their criminal history and the disclosure is lawful and proportionate to the identified need." if the abuser is not classified as committing DV then they are not on the register and no information is given. i'll say it again. ALL government departments use the duluth model for identifying who is the perpetrator. men by default are the perpetrators. best case scenario the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:07 AM
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jay weatherill is the SA premiere. this is the SA policy UNDER the national scheme. theyre bound by federal law to have their own policies UNDER the national plan and show they are meeting the requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:00 AM
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its a bit hard for an article even as biased as this to not accept that men are also victims of DV when the ABS statistics they use state men are victims in 25% of intimate partner homicide and atleast 1/3 in DV cases. you managed to put their admission in bold but yet you failed to notice where they say While a small proportion of men are victims of domestic violence and sexual assault... i/3 is NOT a small portion. you totally missed this when you wrote it in bold men can be both a victim AND …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 08:59 AM
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"Australia's National Research Organisation for Women's Safety (ANROWS) is the independent organisation jointly funded by the Commonwealth and state and territory governments to research evidence to reduce domestic violence against women and children. Their Violence Against Women in Australia report notes that one in four women have experienced at least one incident of violence by an intimate partner they may or may not have been living with. The "One in Three" campaign is a group of diverse adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 08:50 AM
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im not even the only one who identifies the flaw in all this language http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-12/domestic-violence-one-in-three-respond/7315552 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-06/fact-file-domestic-violence-statistics/7147938
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 08:47 AM
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how is it not gendered when the whole national government campaign has stipulated it is about lowering DV against women? heres the title of the National Plan "National Plan to Reduce Violence against Women and their Children Include the first three-year Action Plan Safe and Free From Violence An Initiative of the Council of Australian Governments " https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/08_2014/national_plan_accessible.pdf https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/04_201…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 08:43 AM
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firstly access to this register is ONLY within the context of DV and under the DV laws. that means it is only available to potential victims of DV (all women) and presumably based on where a person has been flagged as an aggressor. this very paragraph explains that yes there are statistics that include male victims in relationships however an individual act does not constitute domestic violence which makes the statistic flawed, yet it then explains that if a man strikes a woman once a year, it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 08:14 AM
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The recommendations list simply suggests states develop strategies to combat DV according to the new national plan. This disclosure is apart of that larger framework to "educate" women. The reason this is gendered has to do with the rigid definitions of DV. This recommendations paper explains very clearly that women are the only victims of DV and where a man has been abused it is probably only a one off or "doesnt follow the pattern of DV abuse" or we dont know if he was abused in defence. Furth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 06:42 AM
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I dont think thats how it works. Atleast not in Oz
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 05:00 AM
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You need to read the actual recommendations list.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 04:48 AM
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The only pressure women feel is from each other to gain the attention of the highest value mates. Women have power over sexual selection, men dont unless they are in the top 20% If women want to stop the pressure they just need to stop throwing each under the bus or bagging each other out or maybe even settling for a partner on their own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 03:07 PM
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I think it demonstrates how for women, looking beautiful and receiving perks is just the standard way of life. If they choose to value themselves on their actions/contributions to society and receive reward for such they then are just on par with men, but as theyre finding out its easier to notice a beautiful woman than to notice good work. The ground for the metaphysics of mgtow does a good video about this on youtube
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 08:37 AM
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Actually its the non-primary carer who pays child support. It doesnt matter how much the primary carer makes. The issue RP has is that in majority of cases women are made the primary carer even when they dont make any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 04:58 AM
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This must be how vegans see meat eaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 10:33 AM
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The question is not how long you should wait to sleep with someone you want to have a LTR with but whether you go for ONS or not. At least the girls who have ONS and give it up to a guy they like straight away are consistent. The others have just developed a weird double standard because theyre trying to combine sexual freedom with conservative values of sex. News flash. You cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:39 AM
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Overall this sounds pretty awesome. its not really 'game' its just the symptoms of a healthy relationship. somethings i did notice are "Suppress your neuroses." if its a severe neuroses requiring professional help then you should certainly see a counsellor and i would also recommend, male or female, dating whilst seeking professional help is never a good idea. if however your issues can be talked through and youve been together for sometime your man should be able to work through this with you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:40 AM
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i share your sentiment for equal rights and opportunities for women as well as for men. a feminist might see this as supporting their cause but its the fact that i support this for men also that excludes me from that title.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:12 PM
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You may actually be interested in the following. Good read https://riversong.wordpress.com/when-progressive-social-change-becomes-regressive-ideology/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 11:49 AM
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Rigid gender roles for example traditionalists would suggest women be housewives and men breadwinners because "evopsych" whereas 3rd wave feminists would victimise women, implying they are unable to look after themselves and suggesting a biological limitation that keeps them from being truly equal with men and needing to be handicapped with affirmative action. http://gos.sbc.edu/p/paglia.html https://www.quora.com/Should-I-support-third-wave-feminism-and-why
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 11:37 AM
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If feminism is a loosely defined term then obviously the statement "I believe all women should be free to fully unfold themselves and choose any career or life path they want" is only one of many ways you can define feminism. If thats correct how do you reconcile those statements such as "i drink mens tears" as expressed by feminists as not disadvantaging you? Interestingly enough i also support the statement "I believe all women should be free to fully unfold themselves and choose any career or…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 12:46 AM
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Many people make the exception; these are generalisations on a particular group and why their motivations are flawed. TRP doesnt help women and feminism doesnt help men. The disadvantage is the same, which leads to the same question why are they taking up ideas that disadvantage themselves? Both their motivations are suspect and in that instance its reasonable to assume its infact to some perceived advantage that they think it will increases their chances with the opposit sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:33 PM
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Strawman! I dont deny an inherent biological drive. Ive only stated we have the ability to be flexible with the exact goal of our desire. Fat women for example used to be highly desired. Compare that with the 90s heroin chic type chick or kim kardashian today. That doesnt imply im saying you can change from gay or straight, youre simply fishing here. Heres a pretty good analysis: https://youtu.be/Xrp0zJZu0a4
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:24 PM
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This doesnt have anything to do with whether the effort is equivalent to a man's. It does however suggest its perfectly reasonable to sexually objectify as a womans sexual availability is measured through her appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:14 PM
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Most of the responses ive seen here from RPW seem to be calling for a return to traditional gender roles despite there being no real incentive for them to do so. Likewise bluepill men have no real incentive to follow feminist ideologies. Neither are going to get what they think they will. I.e. an alpha or pussy respectively. Feminists are not interested in feminist men and RP guys are not interested in LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:58 PM
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Its easy to preach how loyal you are but when your SO goes through a rough patch and you start losing those tingles we'll see what your word is really worth. At this stage it seems to me your so called loyalty comes with conditions that your man isnt permitted to show any weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:12 AM
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Youre boring because youve explicitly stated that there is nothing of substance you can bring to an LTR. What youre looking for is a man to take the lead of your life. You have no interest in helping them in theirs other than having a good sense of humor. Its not really that much for a man to ask that he have one person in all the world whom he can confide in and show some vulnerability when he has to be stoic for everyone else. What youve stated here is that you only want a man for what he can …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:03 AM
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the issue isnt really whether they are or are not in control, but whether its both and exactly when are they and when are the not in control? how much do we allow of their actions to be blamed on their condition? are they to be completely absolved of their responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:27 AM
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...And then free to whinge and blame everyone else but ourselves when they fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:14 AM
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This is retarded. We compromise attraction all the time. Before tv you only knew who was attractive based on the small sample size in your area. Tv then shaped ideals and they havent been entirely consistent through history. We've now reached a point where we are told we dont have to compromise attraction because there will always be someone better. This is a blatant lie though. No wonder standards are so high and people are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:13 AM
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You're not really caring though are you? At least unless your partner experiences a death of someone close which i guess means you can have the opportunity to be caring a handful of times in his life. Otherwise you really just want a man who doesnt need to rely on you or confide in you. Too bad if years in a mundane job breaks him, or he faces financial stress, or never dealt with past family issues/abuse, or goes through a life period of self doubt. "Im fun to be around" is that it? How do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:07 AM
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Agreed. Equal does not necessarily mean there are no sub/dom roles or there arent any ups and downs. Sexually there should ve this interplay but it can be done if both partners actively play out roles and are open to changing roles. As a man if i had a pillow princess sub ALL the time id get pretty bored. I love the fun exchange of power which can be quite competitive. At times i pursue and other times i want to be pursued
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:55 AM
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I think ive just realised how RPW and blue pill men are effectively the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:51 AM
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There are people who have mental illness that can function for all intents and purposes, they just cant and shouldnt do relationships or have caretaker roles. If they cant take care of their own mental/emotional needs then how can they be expected to take care of that of a childs? Seems retarded to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:09 AM
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I honestly think this question really cant be answered without also asking what is an alpha really? Many here seem to confuse alphas with hypermasculinity or behaviours that result in the most sex/money/power. The issue with this is its a glorified ideal for those who value sex/money/power. It says nothing to those who value knowledge/wisdom/self perfection. In terms of gaining sex/money/power you have to adhere to social ideas of being muscle bound/arrogant/ultra competitive/sociopaths. Problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:05 AM
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So say a man approached a therapist and said he'd been having intrusive thoughts of child molestation which were causing him distress though he swears he'd never acted on them. You then discover he is a father with kids in his care. Do you think the children should be removed from his care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 06:31 AM
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This is why im fascinated by those who have come out of their BPD. Due to our damned political correctness we're more interested in making people comfortable in their illness rather than help them overcome it. Incurable cancer needs comfort. Emotional addicts do not. I must stress the struggle is real not unlike heroin addiction, and they will do and say what they can to maintain their narratives. Fact is in order to assist a sufferer you have to break them in order to reshape them; Their narrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 05:08 AM
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personality disorders are often comorbidities that include anxiety. if you analyse the behaviours of OCD, BPD and NPD youll see many of them will avoid, ritualise or fixate on a subject matter that causes them anxiety. anxiety is typically the motivating emotional force. sometimes it can be deep guilt. all of them involve constructing narratives that suggest a certain behaviour, ritual, act will minimise the anxiety/guilt. take compulsions for example. its not some mystical force that robs a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 04:20 AM
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there are many diagnosis in the DSMV that arent really biological/permament conditions like severe tourettes or cognitive deficiencies/impairments. there are many so called 'illnesses' that are actually anxieties, depression etc stemming from cognitive dissonance, PTsD, and false narratives. many people have become confused that having anxiety is some permanent illness. its actually just a human emotion, but this false idea leads to poor treatments and actually perpetuating the anxiety. like tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 03:59 AM
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id like to hear more of your experiences, what changed? what allowed you to break out of those narratives? what mechanism did you unlearn/relearn? i think your experience is quite valuable here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 03:43 AM
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...And god said "for i am the alpha and the omega"... makes a lot of sense. An all powerful being who doesnt like showing up. Blows up cities because of his retarded social skills; gets bitches pregnant by proxy but his son really turns to be himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:03 AM
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Im guessing the point youve arrived at here is that feminism, or at least its modern inception, is a kind of corporate conspiracy to generate more money from women. If so i dont agree. Marriage is by far too profitable, encourages children and ensures men work harder. If you wanted to generate more profit youd keep nuclear families but ensure both parents worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:38 AM
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I had to teach myself through reading and observation. Power and manipulation is something we all do to some extent. Destructive tendencies are easily apparent. Firstly you need to be fairly skeptical of what anyone tells you. Have they had nothibg but abusive partners? Whats the common denominator. Are they trying hard to convince you of something? Do you always feel sad or angered when they share something with you? Why are they conjuring emotions in you? Are they insecure of your whereabouts?…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:06 PM
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are you saying you use the whole bottle in one evening? you mention you have over $100 in products. you probably do, but i doubt youre using it all in one night. you yourself are probably very skilled at makeup. i have know some women to rest their head on my shoulder and leave half their makeup on my jacket. nothing id ever make a big deal of but a perfect example of where id have to shrug my shoulders and ask myself why? am i to appreciate that. thanks for leaving me with $5 of foundation and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:59 PM
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feminists renarrate traditionalists as the male patriarchy trying to reassert the old ways. they tie in perfectly with the other bs 77c to every dollar scare campaign keeping feminism alive. it doesnt matter what 'is' only what appears to be in the eyes of the masses. intersectionalism nearly ended feminism and it certainly wasnt a response to traditionalism. black women were tired of having white women represent them when they new jack shit about the oppression they faced. it still doesnt even …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 12:42 PM
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How so? The way i see it if it werent for traditionalists feminism would have destroyed itself with intersectionalism by now. Instead traditionalists keep providing a boogeyman that wants to regress womens lib for feminists to rally against.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:02 AM
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hey i totally respect that. it doesnt work for me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:59 AM
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Even if you dont care for connecting with someone for life and always having someone whos got your back, from a utilitarian perspective LTRs make sense. Your SMV has an expiry date which can be measured by how high you start pulling your pants up or how low your tits sag. Having an LTR gives you a chance of not dying alone and discovered years later eaten by cats. It also helps in the event you develop dementia or end up in a retirement village with useless grandkids that dont ever visit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:31 AM
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If a father doesnt know these things because he has had to compensate by taking up the entirety of the financial burden while the other partner remains a stay at home parent then thats a sad state of affairs for all family members. This is why im adamant on both partners working and raising children. That old school family arrangement is redundant today and if men are still being expected to carry out that role then all the more power to MGTOW. Ive been married, now divorced due to my ex coming …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:27 AM
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I dont buy into the biological narrative that men are solely masculine protectors/competitors and women are social nurturers. I believe both men and women are capable of showing strength, leadership, self-determination, compassion, nurturing etc. For me ideally equality would look like both partners working, raising children and performing household duties. Both are given the opportunity to develop their careers in order to prepare for when their children leave home or at least fairly autonomous…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:19 AM
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Agreed! Men and women should have equal roles and responsibilities and should a relationship dissolve after exhausting every conceivable option they should be given equal recognition by the courts and, in the case of kids, awarded shared custody of children so long as there is no threat to a child's safety by either parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 08:12 AM
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The trpers who are calling for a return to traditionalism are deluded. Simply by swallowing the red pill they couldnt go back to the old ways anyway. Traditionalism sucked for all and quite frankly im glad it has come to this because now that women have all the same privileges as men (theyve had them for sometime) they will be unable to avoid the same obligations without increasingly being seen as hypocrites. Thats what the 77c in every dollar bs was about: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:52 AM
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i agree with your points here. the tradition of men paying to demonstrate they are capable of providing is now redundant today because A. economies demand two working parents and B. where its financially possible a woman should be able to be the breadwinner without her feeling shamed for neglecting her motherly duties and him not feeling shamed for being a stay at home dad. with more and more women graduating from uni at higher rates than men its also inevitable there will be more women earning …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:51 AM
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clearly argumentative analysis is not your strongest trait. ive presented two points in all of this. that A. women do not do put in as much effort as men in a date as defined by what we've described. and B. that the effort they do put in is misguided and unnecessary. these two points underline my initial argument which is that men and women should be equal in wining/dining contributing to the date. these points are not at odds with each other. it follows that if a woman thinks her 3+ hours of ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:33 AM
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2 things: firstly, no matter how good your skills are at makeup your contouring will not make you beautiful. in fact the more you cover up what you actually look like the more deceitful you are. Secondly, what i find attractive is a woman who uses makeup conservatively, minimalisticly and to eccentuate her inherent beauty. If i take her to the beach, an activity that will invariably happen in a longterm relationship, any loss of makeup wont actually make a big difference. A beautiful woman to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:47 AM
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Are you using the whole bottle in one sitting? Lets work this out. Dinner for 2 at a decent restaurant including drink. Approx 90 - 120. Entertainment at a comedy or cabaret plus drinks 50 - 80. Transport 20. Plus hotel room if we're out far and all goes well 250. Plus haircut & drycleaning 45 (i could buy a new outfit but i dont know itll even get passed a 1st date Cbf calculating shavers, cream, cologne, body spray divided by portions used so you can have that free. Worst case scenario $225 (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:17 AM
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You think men dont put any effort in to their own appearance? Thats where youre confused and why what i said isnt makibg sense to you. Guys put effort in. And if you read closely youll see that i said we dont notice any effort above our own. But you think your own self image is the totality you have to put in. Thats what im arguing against. It takes you 3 hours to get ready? How much of my wage am i expected to pay on the date plus my own appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:00 AM
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As pleased as you would be if i had neckbeard and no thought in the clothes i put on But also im probably gonna be too nervous thinking that i dont look good enough to pay attention to your flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:53 AM
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"They lift for themselves, not to attract women." Theyre either full of shit or in love with themselves. "Female frame. Smiling, endearing, bashful, pleasant, gentle, gracious, reserved. We have to try because guys generally don't like girls who act like men. Maybe some girls are natural at it, but I'm not." Men are equally expected to be charming and attractive. There are heaps forums here about guys whining on not being attractive enough or not being chad. Its not exclusive to women. "I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:52 AM
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Additionally we live in a different era where guys seemingly spend nearly as much time in front of the mirror as women, or in the gym. So why are men doing just as much as women regarding their looks AND all the other stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:45 AM
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Well i might as well be the one to break this to you. Guys dont care beyond a certain point. You could literally put in as much effort as we do and we wouldnt notice. And those guys who do care that you are contouring or wearing $600 dress are either gay, creepy or want a barbie in which case theyre douchebags who are measuring you on your looks. If im trying to work out if you are LTR material i wont base it on your makeup skills but on your ability to not care about such superficiality; to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:43 AM
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I dont care about marriage or a woman taking my surname, i dont care who is the stay at home partner as long as its a decision based on compromise and shared responsibility. I dont want to be the head of the household, i reject being 100% financially responsible for my family but i want to have 50/50 care of my children and not be seen as the incompetent parent. I want someone who wont defer all their choices to me but someone who will actively play apart in my personal growth just as i want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:29 AM
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You all sound so biologically deterministic. Yes attraction trumps all if given the choice, but its lack of education (seeing the signs that a potential partner might be destructive) and lack of self control (not letting yourself be used or give in to base desire when destructive partner wants you back) that determines whether you stay in a messed up relationship or nip it in the bud before it moves to relationship status
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:25 AM
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Women dont look pretty for men they do it for other women or their own self esteem. Thats what every woman says. Men however do go to the gym and manscape in the hope getting a mate. We dont do it for other men and it doesnt really add to our own self esteem. If she has to laugh at his jokes rather than actually finding them funny then shes being disingenuous. Id rather be in a relationship with someone who actually has the same humour, not faking it. What is "trying to be charming"? You mean be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:11 AM
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No its not. Thats why its casual. Its literally as intimate as masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:03 AM
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I think he's referring to intimacy as for men intimacy is the ultimate physical act of vulnerability. But i could be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:47 AM
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This is still retarded. A woman thinks a relationship is the highest thing she can give a man. Does she not think a relationship is the highest thing he can give her? If so why the hypergamy? Why does he have to go over and beyond to woo her? Shouldnt she be doing as much wining and dining and opening doors fir him, paying meals and buying flowers etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:37 AM
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There are many stupid men, im not defending them. but at the heart of all this mgtow/trper philosophy is a reaction that the ideas we were sold as boys were all lies. That women do not want what men want despite trying to convince us otherwise. That if women ever did want the same thing as men then feminism has eroded it into this: https://radicalpoly.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/poly-feminism-thoughts-on-womens-sexual-liberation/ www.xojane.com/issues/unpopular-opinion-marriage-will-never-be-a-femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 12:52 AM
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Jesus christ, cant anyone just love a person for who they are? I have only one requirement for my life partner. That if i should be in an accident that cripples me or i fall through a bad patch in my life i.e. depression or poverty, that i would have no reason to think they would love me any less or leave me over it. Because thats what i offer. If people, men or women, really think they can just sleep around or ditch a person when theyve found something better, theyre not worth my time and deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:17 PM
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These kind of women are great, its their elevated standards that become impossible to meet. If a woman is a successful phd candidate, wealthy etc her hypergamous nature requires even more from her prospective mate. Men dont have the same requirement. There in lies the dilemma. Obviously for a career woman who wants kids a stay at home dad would be perfect as two career driven people dont make the best parents but unemployed house husbands dont have the same appeal to women as wives do for men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 12:53 PM
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'Just be nice'. What is 'nice' other than being moral, well behaved, respectable or virtuous? Its not enough for a man to use nice words to win a woman's affection otherwise this is seen as deceitful. A mans 'niceness' is supposed to reflect his character which really means that to be nice is to be genuinely virtuous. For a boy or a man, to be nice is to be polite, to fix, to do good, to save the princess, to fight the villain, to right wrongs, to stand for whats good. In this light you can look…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:12 AM
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Anyone who doesnt have power, wants power. Narratives help to define groups and establish power structures for example Class, religion, colour, gender, etc. All of these definitions are useful to segregate people between this group vs that.. feminism didnt exist prior to the late 1800s because we didnt have the same narrative of men vs women as we do today. Men and women were seen as separate but interdependent. The rise of feminism came because during the industrial revolution/consecutive wars …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 05:36 AM
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Anyone who measures a persons value based on how they look, themselves included, will be doomed to a life of fake people and empty relationships. You can have SMV but all it will get you are guys looking for sex. Unless thats what you want try putting more emphasis on your long term relationship value. Lamborghinis look good, but when you have to pay exhorbitant insurance, maintenance costs, being a target for damage, theft and little practicality family wise you realise theyre fun to drive for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:49 AM
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We're socially and culturally expected to be nonchalant when it comes to sex. We're also expected to show no signs of emotional vulnerability but remain stoic in everything we do. Fact is sex is one of the biggest and only means men have for showing and receiving affection and being vulnerable. We cant say anything that might allude to that emotional vulnerability so we talk about it in an empty and dismissive way. the sad irony is we cant even be vulnerable in sex as women typically desire a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:33 AM
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this article by okcupid is the root cause behind this statistic. http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ the problem is the argument is flawed. just because a portion of women have voted the majority of men as below average, doesnt mean theyre not sleeping with them. fact is women sleep with below average looking men because male value is not based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:17 AM
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who on earth is arguing that violence is an effective form of coercion? what point is your comment even addressing? whos talking into womens pants? my original post was about how feminists twist real issues in order to undermine them. victim blaming is about the only position youre asserting here that relates to the post. clap clap*
/r/TheRedPill14/06/16 12:23 AM
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Did anyone actually get what the post was about? The reason why i posted this was for people to take a look at how anti-MRAs try to reinterpret campaigns illuminating DV against men to benefit themselves. If you want to break societal perceptions of men solely as abusers then one way is to look closely at the strategies used to enforce those negative perceptions and then directly counter them. Its fairly basic PR theory
/r/TheRedPill13/06/16 08:24 AM
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Thanks for noticing. Thats what i get for lazily relying on autocomplete. What about the article? Anything of value to add or just grammar correction?
/r/TheRedPill12/06/16 10:26 PM
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Ughh you honestly think youre different and anti-establishmentarian because you idolise tyler durden? Serve some time in an actual war. Maybe youll get why all of society was born out of bloodshed. Not because men liked to fight, but because men learnt the cost of violence. All that you contribute to is the rapid decline of western culture. But maybe it needs to burn if all it can do is throw up troglodytes such as yourself.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/16 09:40 AM
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I have a good story for you. I married my best friend from highschool. Shed never even held another guys hand before me. Together for 9 years. Married for 2. 1 daughter together. We always communicated and wanted the best for each other. Sex was barely a thing. We had long convos and counselling sessions to find out why. Turned out she was gay. We separated. 50/50 custody. No lawyers. We're still best friends but now i get front row tikets to observe her take the red pill as she learns about dat…
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 03:32 AM
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This is the internet. For all you know i could be a woman. Which would just mean im 'explaining'.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/16 02:40 AM
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"I want everyone to know I take care of myself. The only validation I need is from myself." This sentence sums up this culture perfectly. Its one thing to workout for your own self. Its a completely different thing to want everyone to know about it. The OP gets into ancient greek. I commend that! Anyone who puts all their time in to working out is failing to develop their full self. For samurai it was common to perfect philosophy, zen, art and martial skill. In the west we have common themes of …
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 02:38 AM
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Firstly. Look at how youre anger is directed at your dad. He has no power in the relationship. Look at what he has to lose if he steps up. EVERYTHING. Should he have been strong enough and set the ground work at the beginning of the LTR? Of course. Buts its more complex than that. Dont hate him. Instead do some introspection and ask why do you hate him for being weak? Its a symptom of the same social construct youre trying to free yourself from. You have expectations of him as a man. Hes not sup…
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 02:19 AM
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"Literally nothing to do with the topic still?" Yet if you read it youd see the article describes emotional repression as a factor in delinquency. "Single experiences mean nothing...It's not about men or about women, it's about what actually happens." This is why no one takes you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:00 AM
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Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology Volume 17 Issue 4 Febuary Article 3 Winter 1927 Factors Contributing to Juvenile Delinquency K. M. Banham Bridges Theres your reference for delinquency Its great that you praise your mum, but you hardly sound like someone who cant articulate their emotions, and unless your carrying out criminal acts or attempting suicide then you sound functional. On the otherhand i was raised by an abusive woman and i learnt very quickly how to harden up or be called a wu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:40 PM
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Your initial comment was that the answer is simply 'the menz'. Men repress emotions in children. Im just illuminating how this logic doesnt stack up and demonstrating how women have a much stronger role in raising boys. Personally i dont see it that any one particular gender is to blame, but women are not blameless in this nor are they a side not in the development of a child. Its simply hypocritical for people on the one hand to praise a single mother when their child excels and then for people…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:11 PM
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here you go. this website was made especially for this lifestyle. you just sign up and make a profile. im sure this is why so many women have caught the 'travel bug' lol https://www.misstravel.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:27 PM
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your initial comment was "In fact it's mostly masculine parental figures (not necessary fathers) who punish emotional expression in men." yet boys learn to repress emotion before they reach highschool and even more so in lower socio-economic households where there is a greater propensity for absent fathers. so masculine parental figures being 'mostly responsible' for punishing emotional expression doesnt follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:15 PM
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How does this explain the dramatic numbers of children without fathers exhibiting deviant behaviour? Seeing as majority of parental disciplinarians are mothers maybe theres a case here freud would like to sink his teeth in to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 06:12 AM
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http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/wife-chops-off-cheating-husbands-penis-twice/news-story/11f1b31523c2fbe5c0ca0fc09ad58e32
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 06:01 AM
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This 10%/90% rationale is interesting. If all women followed this idea there would be 10% of men getting all the women which effectively means you would have to allow for polygymy. On a side note okcupid stats suggest that 80% of women only rate 20% of men as average or above average, meaning 80% of men are considered below average to the majority of women. You could go into how womens standards have inflated ridiculously over the last couple of decades but i think it means this mentality along …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:28 AM
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If women value masturbation on par with or moreso than sex, then again this implies men want sex more than women. Any man, if given the choice, would take sex over masturbation. Even if a woman were a pillow princess it would still be more gratifying for a man. Its almost as though for a woman, its not enough that two people enjoy each others physical selves for their own sake. Instead it appears from this line of arguing that they have a utilitarian approach where sex is a means to an end rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:00 AM
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