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Appomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 03:47 AM
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CMVAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:25 AM
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Question For WomenAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:42 PM
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Question for BluePillAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:09 PM
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Question For WomenAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:35 PM
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Question For WomenAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:37 PM
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Appomattoxx/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/15 01:48 PM
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Appomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:20 PM
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DiscussionAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:54 PM
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Question For WomenAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:37 PM
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Appomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:05 PM
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DiscussionAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:50 PM
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DiscussionAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:23 PM
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CMVAppomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:36 PM
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Appomattoxx/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 11:26 PM
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Appomattoxx/r/MarriedRedPill04/03/17 01:30 AM
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Yes. Feminism is a two-lane solution. For women: liberation. For men: stay in your fucking lane, asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:31 AM
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You said he pursued you because he was stimulated by the way you dress/look/act. In other words, he found you really attractive, and he wanted to make you his. But the very things that made him want you in the first place now make him nervous. Why? Because just like the way you dress/look/act made him want you, they make other guys want you too. And he doesn't want another guy to take you away from him. It's up to you what you do, of course. But you might try suggesting a compromise: if he'll st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:37 AM
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Then date and lock it down early enough just like the red pill likes to bray at women. TRP purports to be strategy for men. So far as I know, it makes no attempt to tell women what to do. It is illogical to expect a woman to do something she discovered she didn't like bc you want to be the man to get it. I don't want a woman who feels like she's "expected" to do anything. In fact, I very much want the exact opposite of that. If sex is that important to men, they need to stop trying to first and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:15 AM
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Sorry. Didn't mean to offend you. Think you're reading more into my post than was there, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:37 PM
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No disrespect to you. I have a lot of sympathy for women who felt pressured to do things they later regretted. But as a man I want the woman who WANTS to try adventurous things with me. Not the one who has a long list of "no's" because she's already tried them with a jerk who wasn't me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:59 PM
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I think you have a healthy attitude. I'm not convinced it's widely shared, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:52 PM
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the women replying to the post seemed to genuinely believe that making him wait meant he was somehow more special. I posted on this exact topic the other day, but a mod deleted it. I'm curious if it's the same one who deleted yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:44 PM
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She made him wait because she's not sexually attracted to him. It's good he broke up - r/DeadBedrooms has too many subscribers already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:41 PM
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One of the mods deleted the thread, but I still seem to be able to make replies, so... Males seems to get more gentle once they fall in love. They seem to be the ones being too gentle when they have feelings and rougher when they’ve only just met you. It's easy to associate love with tenderness. It takes a certain amount of introspection to realize: Just because I treat her roughly in bed doesn't mean I don't love and care about her. To be fair though, there are plenty of women who think that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:08 PM
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Sometimes choosing a small quantity of words generates a high quality of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:30 PM
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I think that kind of goes to the heart of the matter. It's a real problem; which I tried to address before. Edit: There's a post reply from mod Mrs_Drgree saying "removed for low effort." But I'm still getting post replies. So I'm not sure if it's been removed or not. 2nd Edit: I don't see it, so I guess she removed it. Not sure why I'm still getting comment replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:03 PM
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Smart man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:59 PM
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I think if they're expecting that beta schlub to still be waiting for them after they've had their fun, they might be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:49 PM
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That's a sad commentary if sex and love don't mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:43 PM
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Most guys don't mind if their wives are kinky, they don-t lose respect for her. Most, not all. There are plenty of complaints by women about their vanilla husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:37 PM
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They want a guy who'll provide for her, but they also want the guy who'll give her the best possible DNA. The best possible DNA is from a guy who's best at making lots of babies - in other words, impregnating lots of women. These guys are typically aggressive, confident, and unscrupulous. (Sometimes called alphas.) Since the guy who is best at impregnating lots of women is never the same as the guy who commits himself to a particular woman, she has to choose between an alpha and a provider (call…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:26 AM
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no man is going to buy into the "I used to be adventurous, but I don't want to do it with you because I love you" You agree with her then: "Most guys are incapable of believing it."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:52 AM
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You must be a woman. :-) If you're a man, you take whatever sex you can get. You have a lucky guy, if you have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:29 AM
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There are several possible explanations: Women don't want to lose the respect of the guy they're going to marry. So even if they're freaky, they're not going to be freaky with him. The kind of guys who really make women wet aren't going to marry them. The kind of guys who will marry them, don't make them wet. Women have to make an impression, to get a guy to marry. Once they're married, though, there's no reason to go on impressing him. Rationing sex is an excellent way to control a husband. I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:16 AM
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I always thought a woman calling me daddy during sex would be repulsive. Until it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:49 AM
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The value of a thing depends on its scarcity. Perhaps if a woman provides only a little of a thing, she can substantially increase its value? It worked for OPEC.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:45 AM
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Do you mean to say men want their wives to be madonnas, and their one night stands to be whores? That they'll lose respect for their wives if they act like whores in bed? Or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:34 AM
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Well 1) I you've had a self destruction phase, cbd you're not in this anymore. It's not withdraw sex, it's having grow self respect. Is it self-destructive, if you're doing it with a guy who cares about you, and won't think any less of you? 2) you guys really expect that you will live the passion of novelty for 25 years? No. But even if you're not with a new guy you can still do new things with the guy you're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:17 AM
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Most women are not freaks. At best, it's a substantial minority. If she is a freak, the belief the belief she's only ever been that way with you might be naive. Either way, kink-shaming is a real thing, and women have as much reason to fear it as men do. The last thing you want is for the guy you're going to spend your life with to think you're a pervert or a skank.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:58 AM
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I think the fear is your husband will lose respect for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:45 AM
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Why not be freaky, if you don't care what she thinks? Edit: IOW, men do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:43 AM
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do some shit you don't like I'm not sure it's "do shit you don't like". I think it's do what you DO like, just not with your LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:18 AM
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Well, theoretically, if it's a one night stand, whatever he thinks about you in the morning doesn't really matter since you won't be seeing him again. On the other hand, why risk losing the respect of someone you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:09 AM
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I don't think anybody's making that argument: "Well, just you wait until 30, 40 or 50% of men are no sex within the past year or so, they won't bother to work for anything, they won't bother to create anything etc. and then you women will be sorry!" TRP: Society penalizes men for LTRs/marriage. Therefore fewer men are/will be willing to marry. That's generally good for men - at least those who have internalized TRP - but not necessarily so great for women, and terrible for children. The decline …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:58 PM
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Men are expendable, but not inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 12:01 AM
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So what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:24 PM
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Men can't find partners: Men are losers. Women can't find partners: Men are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:09 PM
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I think for a lot of men it's past time to stop listening to women telling men how to be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:06 PM
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Yeah. Whenever girls get naked they throw money at them. When I do it they take me to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:32 AM
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I see. So what do women want men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:43 AM
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Care less about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:34 AM
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This stuff comes naturally to most men, even if they are nervous at first. They don’t need to ‘learn’ scripts for how to talk to women, because women are just people. If it's so easy, why don't women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:51 AM
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I don’t think normal men interpret it this way. There are a whole bunch of people who really don’t find any of this complex and don’t interpret ‘stop bothering and catcalling strangers’ as ‘never express interest’. I'm getting pretty old now, and I've still never in my life seen a woman get catcalled. You need to understand it's > 1% of men who do this. As for the other 99% of men, there's no way to know if we're "bothering you" by "expressing interest" until we do. Why is it women don't approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:45 AM
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Never tried pegging. Are there women who are actually into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 04:52 AM
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Well, I was going to say it depends. Is she letting me throat-fuck her while she gags on my cock? Because that's pretty intimate. Is she begging me not to cum in her, just before her pussy begins to spasm around my cock, as she orgasms because she knows I'm going to do it anyway? I win.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:08 AM
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I can't read all the links right now; but I thought the first one was interesting: Here’s the thing: I spent my formative years—basically, from the age of 12 until my mid-20s—feeling not “entitled,” not “privileged,” but terrified. I was terrified that one of my female classmates would somehow find out that I sexually desired her, and that the instant she did, I would be scorned, laughed at, called a creep and a weirdo, maybe even expelled from school or sent to prison. You can call that my pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:00 AM
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I wish I was brave enough to answer this honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:17 PM
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I didn't read the spoilers, because it's already on its way from Amazon. The original is my favorite of all time. I'll be disappointed if they ruined #2 with a bunch of woke bullshit. What was wonderful about the original was the beautiful ambiguity of the whole thing: Was Joel a cold-blooded killer or a genuine (if reluctant) hero? Was he right to lie to Ellie about what he did? And what about the Fireflies? Freedom fighters, or an incompetent pseudo-military organization with a God-complex? Is…
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 05:44 AM
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You made me smile. Thank you.. Edit to add: can't decide if r/cursedcomments or r/ShittyLifeProTips is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:40 PM
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Yeah. COVID's just a mild version of what's been happening to us since before we were people. And '68 makes this look tame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:36 PM
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Dude... there will never be sex bots... no personal jetpacks, no cities in the clouds, no robot-maids. We're lucky we have roombas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:30 PM
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You can't be older than me. I'm still pissed Eve dumped me for the snake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:27 PM
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Yeah that's kind of the whole point of OnlyFans: you pretend you care about the simps you don't care about. That's the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:24 PM
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From SNL, right? You're dating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:36 AM
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Intimacy is about more than N-count. Of course you have to assume a nymph has been with a lot other guys. But if she opens up to you... I'm not sure how much it matters. Are you really a farmer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:06 AM
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Um, I'm thoroughly confused. Part of it is whether attractive women can make money from simps. That's well-established. Then there was an argument about FDSers. While it's true that FDSers want BOTH the man AND his money. It's also true they have no strategy and are mostly failing at getting what they want. Finally there was the question of whether women should "pretend" to be science nerds (for example) to meet men. I think there's a huge untapped market of super-nice guys who'll treat almost a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:36 AM
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That's just another variation of the OnlyFans girl. She has no interest in the simps who follow her; she's just doing it for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:21 AM
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Whether she should or not is entirely up to her, but... I've often thought a perfectly average girl (who's reasonably nice) could make herself wildly attractive just by joining, say, a group of role-playing nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:18 AM
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FDS women aren't interested in changing because, like many women, they'd rather blame men and be done with it than lose weight and improve their attitudes. Which means they're not really doing anything to make themselves more desirable. Mostly what they're doing is talking each other into resigning themselves to being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:14 AM
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I don't think it's a personal attack. I mean, she did use a vomit emoji, and accuse men of wanting "sex dolls" and of play video games all day. But I mean, this is PPD. We should have thicker skins than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:09 PM
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Yeah. So many subs are echo chambers where mods delete you if you say something they don't like. It's depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:46 PM
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Yeah, it's something I've struggled with. I can't disagree with the TRP narrative - there are too many clear-cut real world examples. OTH, I've always preferred to think of people as people first, and as men and women second. Even though I preach "Kill the boy," I have to admit - especially given my struggle with mental health - it'd be nice to be truly vulnerable with someone. But evidence seems to suggest that's the equivalent of psychological suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:32 PM
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Pretty much anybody who claims something they think is awesome about themselves is not whatever it is, irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:01 PM
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I still have an active account there. At one time I was going to troll them. But over time it began to feel like beating up on a cripple. It's just not satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:59 PM
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People say that, but the truth is most of the time they're intentionally misrepresenting what you said. There's a name for it in debate - it's called the "strawman" argument. "Agree & amplify" seems to work, as a countermeasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:57 PM
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And it's fun and entertaining to disagree with people. Isn't it, though? I've been like that since I was like 12. At this point, it's like hardwired into me. I try to resist it, though. Sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:55 PM
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Yeah, there definitely is tone. It's just much harder to interpret.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:53 PM
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I'm surprised at how many women there are, who truly do want that one special guy, who fulfills her wishlist, but doesn't actually want them for sex... or at least, not until they've been married a while. I know that sounds sarcastic, but I used to believe FDS... "Female Dating Strategy"... was sarcastic. Or, at minimum, a smokescreen so they could pretend they weren't femcels. But now I think they really do want that one special guy. It makes me feel more sympathy for them, than what I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:52 PM
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The final point is also what is in women's minds; that the alpha or bad boy will become tame and loving. This is an important point, and worth noting. It's the basis of every romance novel ever written and of movies like 50 Shades (I think - never watched it). But it's a fantasy. Maybe .01% of women will transform that alpha bad boy into a loving provider. But for the other 99.99% of you, it's never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:45 PM
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That is the whole point, I think, of TRP: it's biological, not cultural. Not to take anything away from your post - it's a lovely poem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:42 PM
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What's the traditional female role?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:22 PM
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I feel like this is a very sad perspective, though. Why? There are a ton of men who don't only care about sex. Just like there are tons of women who love sex and do consider it a priority. Define "ton". I think the easiest way to refute what you're saying is to examine the market for sex. The approximate number of women who pay for sex is 0. Of course there are some nymphomaniacs and some disinterested men. But I think "ton" is the wrong word to use. I feel like if the one thing you really want …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:36 AM
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Not much of a feminist, are you? You know, we could keep more of our bread, if we didn't spend it on women. I guess a different way to ask the question is, what's in it for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:18 AM
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Wow. No disrespect, but for someone who doesn't want anything from men, your list of their contributions is extraordinarily long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:07 AM
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Who says Reddit is a wasteland? u/jasthephysicist comment was brilliant. He (or she) was wrong about one thing though: porn is no substitute for a lover. Edit: thanks for sharing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:02 AM
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There's a significant difference between what men want from a relationship and what women want. Some men (including me) believe society increasingly validates women's preferences over men's. The point that some men make is that as long as this phenomenon continues men have fewer and fewer incentives to engage in long-term relationships at all - and some men have come to the conclusion that LTRs with women are at best pointless, if not actively self-destructive. I personally think that biology wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:47 AM
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Maybe you'd be better off without him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:18 AM
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Dude, you have so much more patience than I do. I started to reply and then gave up when I realized she was incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:56 AM
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I mean yes men still spend on women (as they should) Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:36 AM
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Yes, that is funny. How long did it take you to leave him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:24 AM
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You’re right we would be doing it all anyways so what do we need men for? A lot of women feel this way for a reason men don’t want a relationship that is give and take they want a live sex doll that they can turn off so they can go play Skyrim with the boys. 🤮 We welcome our sisters from FDS, and it sounds like you've got it all figured out: Women are better off alone. Good luck on your journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:22 AM
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u/Infammo already said it better than I can, so I'll restrict myself to reiterating: We don't care that you went to college. What you want in a man is not what we want in a woman. We don't care about cleaning the house. That's what you care about, not us. TRP says women are solipsistic. That's not really the right word for it, and I don't happen to agree, anyway. But this is what they're talking about: You assume whatever's important to you is important to us. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:08 AM
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There's a quote somewhere that says: There's only one Love Language, those other four things are \Like* Languages.* I have to say it resonates with me. Physical intimacy is a language of its own. Without it you have something... but something other than - and less than - a soul mate. I'd trade it for a great many things... including a lot of things that made it onto a lot of women's lists. I understand the lust for casual sex. Somebody else said, "Sex is like pizza. Even when it's bad, it's good…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 03:49 AM
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how do you know that? There's a tool you can use to see overlap between subs: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/ It's not working, though. Or at least, I can't get it to work. Maybe somebody else can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:46 AM
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I hope he listens. Otherwise I see a future where he's posting on r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:14 AM
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Women are attracted to confident men. You're simping, which makes you actively unattractive. You've also got one-itis. You've put her on a pedestal. This, again, makes you inherently unattractive. There are many women in the world. You need to get to know them. She's already shown you she's not the one for you. Attraction is non-negotiable. It's also irrational. There's nothing you can do to "convince her" she's right for you. I'm not even sure why you want to. You need to spend at least a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:07 AM
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Family courts are predisposed toward women. It's not (quite?) as bad as it used to be, but men - dads particularly - get the short end of the stick. I think what offends some people is the double standards women display when it comes to defending gendered outcomes, when it benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:56 PM
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The top cross-over sub for PPD is FDS. Mostly they talk about not having sex with men. Interestingly, hardly anybody comes here from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:44 PM
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That most women here are from FDS is kind of an open secret, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:29 PM
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Are you saying wanting sex is bad; or just bad in the context of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:26 PM
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You said - I think - you want intimacy without sex. If he's not asexual, do you suspect he might find that... frustrating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:15 PM
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I think you're being sarcastic? Hypothetically, does she want him to make a move, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:14 PM
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Almost any post on FDS, many on XX. I'm sure also other female subs, but those are the only ones I read.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:11 PM
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"Make a move"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:54 PM
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Is your fiancee asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:51 PM
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I guess what I'm saying is there seem to be a certain number of people - women - who say they want a committed relationship with a man, but also say they don't really care about sex. If you don't care about sex, why the part about it being a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:46 PM
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I mean... I haven't done a survey or anything, but u/reLincolnX comment resonates with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:43 PM
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Maybe I'm conflating disgust with male sexuality with disgust with having sex with a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:41 PM
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In theory, though, there's nothing particularly important in that he's a male...? He could have been a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:40 PM
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A long time ago I was camping with a woman. It was night, and she thought that a tree outside the camp looked like an axe-murderer. She sent me out to investigate. It's worth mentioning I didn't have an axe myself, a stick, or a weapon of any kind. I still don't know what that was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:33 PM
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Thanks for your reply. companionship: You could get that from a friend, couldn't you? emotional connection: same as above. friendship: Same. affection: I'm not sure what that means. Do you mean physical affection? resources: You'll have to expand on this. protection: Men have for a long time prided themselves on their ability to protect their family. People have been saying for decades, though, that we're no longer needed for that. I think many (most?) men have accepted that logic. Do you disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:04 PM
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I guess there's a missed connection there somewhere. When someone says "romantic" to me, it implies sexual attraction. What does it mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:28 PM
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My bad. No idea why I typed the word "not" in the middle of the sentence. Should have been: We're not going to be nice about it. I think I meant to type, there's no way we're not going to be nice about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:40 PM
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Does it need to be a guy, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:37 AM
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You said you weren’t looking for sex. So I assume platonic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:59 AM
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But not romantic feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 11:24 PM
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It's ... womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There IS A sex quota to filled. -- Said Nobody Ever. It's her body she can do what she wants with it. There is no rule that says women have to have sex with boys that do well in school and have ok jobs. It's not immoral to reject nice guys and date assholes. Yep. And when you jump in the lake, don't complain the water's wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:42 PM
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Prostitution is our future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:35 PM
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Testosterone. When Columbus set out for China, people thought he'd fall off the edge of the Earth. When American colonists declared independence, they declared war on the most powerful empire on Earth. When the Wright brothers made the first airplane, they were inspired by a glider pilot, who'd just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:31 PM
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Literally: We are not here for any purpose - any more than a mosquito or a rock or a tree. Biologically and Evolutionarily: we're here to reproduce. Philosophically: Purpose is not a thing that exists outside our own consciousness. We create purpose. Since we create purpose, our purpose is whatever we're able to create for ourselves (or, at any rate, any purpose we're able to convince ourselves is true.) Philosophically 2: We live and we die. The only purpose is to experience as much happiness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:11 PM
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No. All I have to do is look around to know attraction is not a choice. I've often thought it would be nice to be gay, but not because I hate women. (Because I don't.) The only women I hate are those who hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:41 PM
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If I weren't married already, THIS would have put me off even thinking about approaching. Forever. "Just because I'm a woman" is wince-worthy. It's just a fact. It's not even an opinion. Getting approached happens so infrequently to men we're flattered even if we're not interested. We're not going to be nice about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:33 PM
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Because women can't trade sex for things other than sex, if they're not wanted. If you don't want her enough to talk to her, you're useless to her. Nothing works. It's the initial shit test. IOW: Men who are not confident enough to approach are not the men women want anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:30 PM
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This is the very reason RP men can be advised to dehumanize and objectify women: For as long as women are reduced to silly, babbling, soulless fuck-toys with absolutely no power, then we no longer have the power to shatter your heart, break your dreams in front of your face, and make you feel like you want to curl up and die. The devestating effects of heartbreak are a totally normal human experience, but one many people don't want to endure too many times in their lifetime. You might be on to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:27 PM
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Three out of five is not enough. By way of example, if you posted this on TRP they'd tell you if you can find one relationship out of 100 approaches, you're doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:22 PM
4

Most women who call themselves feminists are not socialists. Of course there's a 1001 versions of feminism, so... It's not feminists who "love" Muslims as much as id-pol liberals. I don't really understand them - I'm trying, though. I used to consider myself a liberal, but identity politics has driven me away. I just can't tolerate it anymore. They want to get betas labor, sacrifices and resources while having the freedom to sleep around with alphas. I don't think so. If you look at FDS for exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:10 PM
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Nope. They wait for Alphas to find their way to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:57 PM
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Being too submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:56 PM
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Okay. There are two possible interpretations of your view. One is that you personally find it attractive when your husband doesn't give a fuck about your inner world when he's fucking you; the other is that women generally find it attractive when men ignore women's feelings when they're having sex. If it's the first you're merely describing a personal idiosyncrasy. Which fine; we all have them. But it's not really relevant to anyone but you. If it's the second, you might want to bring something …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:42 PM
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Women are always saying what's supposedly attractive in men and most of it's bullshit. Curious why I should listen to you instead of the 90% of women who'd say the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:06 PM
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my husband's complete disregard for my inner world seems pretty masculine to me. Just post this on r/XXChromosomes and get back to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:55 PM
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Especially if the sex feels passionate and not robotic or performative. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:25 PM
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Men don’t bond from sex. In fact, they might feel LESS CLOSE to you after the fact. Sex for men inspires feelings of achievement more than anything else. They got what they wanted from you. True, mostly. BUT. I can fuck a woman I don't feel close to. But it's hard to feel close to a woman who won't fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:23 PM
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FDS says to never pay, never initiate any connection, never give any gifts or other acts if affection and to withhold sex for several months. FDS is about learning to be alone. It'd be nice if there was a whole subreddit devoted to your question. But there isn't. I'd say the #1 thing is... to start young.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:47 PM
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It's all part of the risk/benefit analysis. Try to sleep with one eye open.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:43 PM
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In my mind feminism was simply a movement that fought for equal rights for women. I know feminists say that. And sure, some of them believe it. But real feminists understand feminism is, has been, and always will be about getting the best possible outcomes for women - at the expense of men. Did men set up society to control womens sexual choices? Men did not set up society. "Patriarchy" is a meaningless word that simply means anything bad about society that feminists ever want to criticize, ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:38 PM
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12 year old me didn't know shit. You have to learn shit the hard way. I wish there were short-cuts. If there are, I don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:15 PM
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That's not so bad. I find it kind of endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:13 PM
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f you want to be IN the game you need to play by society's rules and find a way to do that without becoming bitter or nihilistic. I know nihilism gets a bad rap. And maybe it deserves it. But it's not all bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:11 PM
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Can't do it. I can't do the "timeline" thing because I have children. If I go back in time and do anything to fuck up the things that led me to having the exact children I have now, I would not change a single damned thing. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:08 PM
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Don't be morally good, it's perceived as weakness, follow the lead of your classmates who actually HAVE girlfriends. Be a bully, be dominant and show you're higher value than the other dudes. This doesn't work. If you're a good person, you can't be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:07 PM
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Was he grateful that I fucked him for so long for free? No. I didn't have the audacity to tell him "do you not care what you'll lose" lol. Obviously no one's fucking him now and to get a girl to fuck him as often as I did would cost him $30,000 a year, more for a girl who's exclusive to him. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:04 PM
3

It's easy to tell the females from the males in this thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:02 PM
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Crazy is literally the best thing you can stick your dick in. Why deprive yourself of pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:00 PM
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I don't think my 12 year old self could handle what I have to tell him. He'd need to go through all the shit I went through in order to learn it. I think there are things you can't believe just because somebody told you. You have to experience them. I've thought about this a lot, and I don't know that there's anything I could tell me when I was younger that would help me. I think you have to suffer to know things for real. A talking-to doesn't do it. As much as I would love to spare 12 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 09:54 PM
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OP asks for examples. I provide example. ​ OK, FDSer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 05:27 PM
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I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 05:16 PM
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OP asked for examples. Shrugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 04:40 PM
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Her: I googled random symptoms and I think I have *rare disease*. Me: I thought we talked about consulting Dr. Google. Her: I know but I couldn't help it. What if I have rare disease? Me: You don't have rare disease. Her: How do you know? Me: You have a cold. Her: But the internet says blah blah blah. What if it's rare disease? Me: Why don't you talk to your doctor? Her: So you think I might have it? Me: ^^^Smashes head into brick wall. Happier dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 04:30 PM
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Yes. Becoming competent is a good way to do it. So is developing a moral compass. Learning to sift through religion and politics and other dogmas to separate what is real from what is there to pacify or control you is also important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:44 AM
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Attracting women is about confidence. Where it comes from is beside the point; so long as it doesn't depend on someone else. If your confidence comes from being liked then you are not confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 12:11 AM
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Is this a demographic thing? So many women out there are with functionally speaking man children. Guys who won't speak on their emotions but gone full NEET for very long periods Demographically, men are more likely to be employed than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 06:37 PM
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Yes. I was offered a cup of male tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:33 PM
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Dunno man. Seems like women have emotional breakdowns pretty commonly. Most the time, they're not even real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:50 PM
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Most boys don't have the luxury of having a good father.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:40 PM
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This is definitely a 'treat the gun like it's loaded' kind of deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:36 PM
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Yeah I have to agree with u/Suck-Less here. There are thousands of guys who have their own opinion about what TRP is "about" and lots of them will claim it's all about getting laid. The part that was useful for me was the analysis of the evolutionary and cultural dynamics surrounding women's decisions about when and whether to have sex, and when and whether to choose a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:57 PM
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You were upvoted a lot for this, so I have to assume a lot of people agree. That's sad. I have to believe there's not more than a tiny fraction of men who would even imagine doing something violent or unwanted to a woman, no matter how what. But of course even a tiny fraction is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:54 PM
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You don’t understand because men typically want to be sexualised by almost any woman. You might be right about that. It may be that I'm not able to understand. It’s not what I think. It’s pretty clear from their facial expressions, winks, lip licking, staring at particular body parts. They are clearly sexualising me. I've looked at my share of attractive women. When they can't see me looking, I've even stared. When I'm with other guys - especially if we've been drinking - I've even made comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:47 PM
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I've heard this before. Not being female it may be impossible for me to understand. Like I said, there was a time when I got some attention from gay men. Even when they were being underhanded or inappropriate, though, I never felt like they were reducing me to an object. A little afraid once. Pretty goddam icky another time. But I still felt like they were interested in me, even if they wouldn't have been if I had looked like somebody else. I mean don't we all want to be wanted for the complex g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:32 PM
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You're asking me to imagine if I was a girl, which I've never been. Each of these is creepy. How about your uncle? The one you used to rough house and play hide and seek with? How about one day, shortly after you bud breasts you notice him looking at them and licking his lips? How about your middle-aged teacher? Rubbing your shoulder when they are helping you with your math problem? How about your doctor? The one you went to with a really worrying problem, but they're too bust flirting with you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:18 PM
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It’s disgusting to be looked at like a piece of meat by 50% of the world. To be sexualised by just any man who decides you’re hot - absolutely foul. This is something I don't understand. I mean I've certainly heard it many times before. And of course it's insulting if someone's being rude or obnoxious. But to be offended by what you think is going on inside someone else's head? I don't get it. People could sexualize me all day every day. I don't think it'd bother me. I knew someone once who was …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:12 PM
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Yeah that dude belongs in jail. If he's not there yet, he'll be there soon. Many long years ago, when I was - oh, 18 or something - there was this guy I knew from the neighborhood - childhood friend - and he told a story about a girl passed out at a party... and you can guess the rest. I was grossed out at the time, but it wasn't until later I realized it was rape. That's really the only story that I have, though. Other than guys who tried things with me. I know this shit happens, even though it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:25 PM
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I'm perfectly open to giving no fucks. The list of things I don't care about it constantly increasing. But this is interesting to me. I know this place is not representative, but I'm curious what things look like from the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:14 PM
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I don't know that anyone's said that explicitly. But you are right that people act like that sometimes. Still, no one praises Einstein for his sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 11:35 PM
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Of course. Every guy wonders about that. But I don't think ALL of them were, every single time... are you a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 10:11 PM
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orgasm solo <> orgasm with a partner What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 10:10 PM
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Man. Unless that was a rhetorical question...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 10:07 PM
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I don't know, dude. I think you may be creeping women out. The closest I can come - and this is from my younger days - is to hold her gaze for a moment, to see how she responds. Sometimes she'll give you the nod, which is nice. But a staring contest? That sounds fucked up to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 10:01 PM
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Obviously there's a point where continuing to stare at somebody is creepy. What I don't know is... when I see an attractive woman, and I'm looking at her before I even know I'm doing it... have I already creeped her out? Is there like 2 second rule, or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:55 PM
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An interesting side note is that there is a female form of this. We never really talk about it because it doesn't necessarily relate to sex. However I have definitely experienced it... and in some ways it's more unsettling than just having some random lecher look at you. Curious... what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:51 PM
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Yeah, I hear you. I mean I've heard that explanation before... basically, she's advertising, but she only wants >1% of the applicants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:45 PM
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I think it's a small percentage of women. But they are out there. And they do seem to be very sincere. It's like... if it's 40F outside and she's wearing short shorts... and she wants to say she's doing that for herself? ... Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:43 PM
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I'm not here to tell you you're feeling the wrong thing. I mean obviously I have my own POV. Everybody does. But I'm asking because I want to know. I'm not trying to push a narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:34 PM
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LOL. You got my upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:29 PM
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I dunno. I can only speak to my own experience - no amount of O's will make a woman as thirsty as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:24 PM
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Yeah. Not really tho. You can give yourself an orgasm. Anybody can. That's not why you people have sex, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:12 PM
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No one can change your view, because your argument is equivalent to 1=/=2. No one has ever said a person’s sex appeal is equal to their inherent value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:39 PM
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Of course that is healthier. But many - most? - women go through life expecting to get something in return for sex. It is at the least a deeply ingrained cultural artifact - if not actually instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:32 PM
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I’ve heard this argument before and I’m sorry but it’s pure BS. I suspect, if you think about your own experiences - and you’re honest with yourself - you’ll agree that whether a man has given you an orgasm before has little to do with your decision to have sex with him in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:29 PM
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That's what I'm asking. How do you feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:57 PM
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The male gaze is not just checking someone out. Checking out a hot person is natural. It's men who know they are making you uncomfortable and enjoy it. I've never made anyone uncomfortable and enjoyed it. I have "checked out" a lot of women in life - there was even a time when they'd occasionally check me back. Let's say you are sitting alone on a park bench and a guy much larger than you sit down and just stares at you. Trying to imagine that situation. I'd wonder WTF is wrong with him, and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:52 PM
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There are also movies that cater to women. I tend to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:38 PM
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I can understand that, sort of. Obviously, women are more vulnerable than men in public. There have been a few times in my life where I didn't feel safe in public. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:36 PM
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It sounds like you sort of think of sex itself as being degrading. If you watch a lot of porn, you pretty much can't help coming to that conclusion. I don't think watching a lot of porn is healthy, tbh. I can say that as a man, when I think of someone sexually, I don't think of them as an object, subhuman, or a thing. Of course I'm just a random person on the internet. I don't expect to convince you of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:32 PM
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I know the "male gaze" concept came from movies. However, I've seen it often enough that it seems to have crossed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:24 PM
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I think there must be something to it. I just don't know what. But yeah, what you're describing is what I called "resentment". It's like, "You're going to wear a crop-top and yoga shorts to the grocery store and tell me I'M wrong because I looked at you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:22 PM
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Uh... no. I was just describing the closest thing in my own experience, which - I'm guessing - is not that close.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:19 PM
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What do you want a man for? If you're looking for casual sex, swiping right and left is probably all you'll ever need to do. If you're looking for something else, you'll need to do more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:11 PM
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Animals fall somewhere along a spectrum between sexual dimorphism and monomorphism. Monomorphic animals mate for life, and both parents take an active role in raising the young. Almost all males find mates, because females mate with one and only one male. Dimorphic animals, on the other hand, are polygamous or promiscuous. Either way, a small number of males mate with most females, and most males never mate at all. Male investment in offspring is minimal or non-existent. Humans are somewhere in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:04 PM
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I’m a woman in my twenties who has started OLD very recently. There’s zero need for me to pursue any man. Any man for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:58 PM
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You're right about the market, but not everybody's in the market for the same thing. Some people are in the used car market. Some people are looking for a crib to crash for the night. Others are looking for a permanent home.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:45 PM
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sitting in my pajamas watching some bake-off show. Sounds like FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:17 PM
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And when women complain about not being able to find a HVM they never talk about why a HVM would choose her over his 20 other alternatives. Just keep rejecting and wait. Eventually your HVM will come.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:44 PM
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Just the other day I was discussing with an acquaintant of mine who is a high value man What is a high value man?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:25 PM
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I understand. But the total number of liaisons will be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:54 AM
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I can't believe this hasn't already been pointed out, but if we're talking about heterosexual liaisons the numbers are exactly the same for men as for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:03 AM
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This guy's an idiot. You don't fuck around with sexual assault charges. Jesus Christ. He should have thrown her out as soon as he realized what she was doing.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/20 10:48 PM
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I mean if you go back several decades and look at some of the shit that was on TV then, it was very sexist. And I think it's good that that changed. But the way "male gaze" is thrown around these days, I'm not sure that it means what it used to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:43 PM
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However, limiting the "evil patriarchy" message would also make gender relations better. I'm so tired of hearing about the patriarchy. It seems there's nothing it can't be blamed for. You'd think women had no influence on culture at all, to hear some feminists talk about it. Despite the fact that almost all boys - and girls - have mothers who are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:37 PM
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Do you think young boys and girls should be treated the same or differently? It depends on the kids, of course. But - generally - if I had a son instead of a daughter I'd be treating him a whole lot different than my girl. Boys have to walk a tightrope without a safety net. It's a difficult thing to learn. What, in regard to socialization, would cause a new generation of boys and girls to grow up to be able to get along better with each other as men and women in the future? I think there was a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:33 PM
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Ofc i hear my father in law say "you need to learn how to be a proper man already! Learn to control your woman, look, just like i did with your mother! If you need to hit her, so be it! Worked fine for us and all other families, didn't it? But be careful not to leave visible marks you fool!" What the heck country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:16 PM
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90% are simps just like up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:12 PM
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I think that girl was pretty cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:11 PM
1

I grew up Mormon too, but not in Utah. Is it a Utah-Mormon thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:09 PM
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It's a real problem. I don't pretend to have the answer, but I think it can be broken down at least two ways: Not all males are the same. Girls can be tomboys and be just fine. They can also be girly girls, or something in between. For boys expectations are both more rigid, and more confused. They're likely to face disapprobation regardless of what they do. We're not sure masculinity is ok anymore. Attempts to rescue or re-appropriate it have failed so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:06 PM
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I haven't seen it. But I don't think it's surprising that a show whose prime demographic is teen-age boys would feature a hyper-sexualized woman. Anymore than say, a show aimed at women would feature one or more sexy guys who - for one reason or another - never seem to have a shirt on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 08:54 PM
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No of course not. These guys can't tell the difference between "women" and "that young hottie from a good home with good parents who doesn't notice me".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:17 PM
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I have a daughter, so no dog in the fight. But, yeah. The 'girl power' propaganda is overwhelming. If I had a boy... I'd be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure somebody's said that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:22 PM
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Why do women need to lower their dating standards in order to justify having equal pay for the same work in the same positions? TBH this was mostly a flow-of-consciousness comment. I had written a bunch more, but I deleted a most of it. Women don't need to lower their dating standards. But as long as they prefer men richer than themselves, men will try to live up to that standard. Women: we have the right to make as much as men. Also women: but we won't date you unless you make more than us. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:43 PM
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Fine. I'll keep talking about what I want to talk about... and you can go talk about chaos theory - just make sure you've read everything that's ever been said about it, before you open your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:03 PM
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In feminist theory, the male gaze is the act of depicting women ... from a masculine, heterosexual perspective that ... represents women as sexual objects for the pleasure of the male viewer. I think men look at women, and sometimes find them attractive. I think it's a natural and harmless reaction. (Or interaction, because if you're an attractive man, you'll sometimes find those same women looking back at you.) To take something as simple and natural as people looking at each other, and to turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:52 PM
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Naw. The only new things are technology/science. Everything else has been talked about by someone sometime someplace before. "Newness" only exists because it's new to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:28 PM
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"There is nothing new under the sun." If people didn't talk about things that had already been talked about, there would be nothing to say at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:06 PM
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You got my up-vote. You've got to have some kind of a hook (good job/ money always works) that's implicit in your photos without explicitly saying it. And you need an opener. "Hey" doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:53 PM
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How can I get these women to go on a date with me if they're not even replying? ***So cute. :) Edit: She got seven dates? JFC WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:29 PM
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I haven't done it, but I can imagine. Watching linked video now. She's actually got an advantage - the guy's above average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 08:21 PM
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No - maybe you're right. Maybe if I spent more time pondering whether other people are worthy of me, I'd have a better life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 01:58 AM
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I've never blocked anybody. Not sure what the point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 01:21 AM
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Blocking low effort women would mean blocking most women. And high effort women aren't always the ones you want to date, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 12:22 AM
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Kissing someone is not sexual assault. It might be, someday... if people who already think it is wind up get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:16 PM
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The punishment for sexual assault in my state is either 2-20 years, or 5-99 or life. What state - or country - do you life in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:09 PM
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One is either a closet lesbian or asexual, or has a suppressed libido from using birth control. She is deadbedrooming her husband and occasionally rewards him with sex. I imagine that the guy has to constantly walk on eggshells so she doesn't get mad and withhold sex even longer. :s "Reward sex" is both common, and relationship cancer. I don't understand how more people don't see that. Another one was trying to get commitment from a fuck buddy and kept sleeping with him. I don't know if she was …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:05 PM
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Ok, well.. as a matter of law, you're wrong. But if you want to argue she probably won't go to the police if she likes it... you're on your own. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:54 PM
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I'm sorry I'm not willing to argue with you. This is the statute in my state. Check and see if there's anything in there anywhere about whether she liked it as either an element of the offense or a defense to the charge. If you don't like my state's laws, check the laws in your state or country: they will be the same. Consent is a defense. Whether she liked it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:42 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:30 PM
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Whether you committed a crime or not doesn't depend on whether the alleged victim "liked it". I'm sorry I'm struggling here because this is actually my field of work. It literally boggles my mind to hear some people say "she liked it" is - or ever could be - the difference between whether something is a crime or not. In criminal cases the difference between sexual assault and consensual sex is... consent. Whether she liked it literally has nothing to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:51 PM
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So there's this old joke I heard once. A guy's on trial for rape, and the victim is testifying: Question: Did you cry out for help? Answer: I did. Question: And did anybody come? Answer: Well, he did... And I did... a little bit... But seriously, what does the number of hookups you've had have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:19 PM
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this is only not assault because she was okay with it No. That is 100% not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:07 PM
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Micro-aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:06 PM
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it's not assault because she's down with it, That's... not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:05 PM
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I missed that cultural moment. The look on his face is precious: he is SO grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:58 PM
1

Yeah... I don't think that's going to happen...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:53 PM
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You're missing the point: it wasn't a big deal (well, it was to her - she seemed to really like it), but you're prepared to turn a kiss into sexual assault based on... whether he got her number first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:49 PM
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You're missing the point: it wasn't a big deal (well, it was to her - she seemed to really like it), but you're prepared to turn a kiss into sexual assault based on... whether he got her number first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:49 PM
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For a night or two? Is that what you think is the punishment for sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:46 PM
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Wait. If they EXCHANGE NUMBERS first THAT'S what changes it from sexual assault? You honor, my client pleads not guilty. What's your defense? They exchanged numbers first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:45 PM
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Are you out of your MIND? You think I'm just going to RAPE you on the off-chance you're be into that shit? Lol. Love Louis CK. Too bad he couldn't keep his pants zipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:42 PM
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Content warning: The story contains a video clip that shows kiss that appears to be initiated without consent. From comments: THIS IS SEXUAL ASSAULT. and If that was me...we pressing CHARGES, baby. Meanwhile, the real girl... stumbles away from the camera with a dazed expression of happiness on her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:35 PM
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I don't hate women. I do hate it when they tell men to "man up" while drinking out of a cup of "Male Tears". I hate when they discuss "toxic masculinity" while ridiculing men for being "fragile". I hate when they demand "equal pay" but won't date a guy unless he makes more than them. I hate it when they say, "There are no good men left," because she can't get the guy she wants. I hate when they get riled about the gender of CEOs and Senators, but don't give a shit about occupational death rates …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:06 PM
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I'm not trying to make an accusation here: I'm not claiming that women are being sneaky or dishonest if they have another reason for having sex besides sex itself. If the "majority of the women [you] know have sex mostly for the reason that they like it," there's not much I can say about that. I don't even know the women you know. I'm curious, though: when you say you have friends who do have ulterior motives - what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:05 PM
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You're forgetting femcels. r/Trufemcels. Also FDS is basically femcel, w/o openly admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:22 AM
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Feminist, but not libfem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:13 AM
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It's not really about gold-digging. It's more about how to blame men for being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:12 AM
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TIL: There's an ongoing war between TERFs and TiMs... and apparently libfems are involved as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:09 AM
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I wasn't thinking about "Chad". But it doesn't matter. Whatever women's preferences are, they're entitled to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:30 AM
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Hi. Your partner is very lucky. Also any other woman who finds her partner attractive. Plenty of attractive people whose partners still don't want sex them. And I would like to point out that the dead bedrooms sub has an equal number of men and women. If you were to check my post history you'd see I've made the exact same point. Dead bedrooms are almost never dead for the reasons unmarried people imagine. Both men and women complain about their loneliness, lack of connection, unmet sexual needs …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:16 AM
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Yes. This has been the feminist argument for decades: if men want to have as many sexual partners as possible, they shouldn't "discriminate" against slutty women. The problem is it's a false equivalency: what men want in a woman is not, and has never been, the same as what women want in men. Women are quick to argue (correctly) that they're entitled to whatever sexual preferences they happen to have. The same is true for men. Attempting to shame men into wanting something they don't is both poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 12:06 AM
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Not good at trusting random people on the internet. How about an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:57 PM
1

Not logical = illogical. It's a synonym. Either something is logical or is illogical, there is no inbetween. Not quite. A thing can be logical: a triangle with one obtuse angle has two acute angles. Or illogical: a triangle can have three obtuse angles. Or non-logical: "I prefer triangles over squares."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:49 PM
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Men - most men - don't want high n-count partners because they find the idea of "their" woman slutting it up with other men repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:39 PM
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Slavery has existed pretty much as far back as we have records to show whether it existed. It's codified in the Bible and in the Epic of Gilgamesh, among other sources. Slavery is sometimes called "the world's second oldest institution."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:34 PM
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Disincentivizing women from mating indiscriminately - especially at a time before birth control and DMA tests - would be in the interests of all the communities that did it. In fact, it's so important for their long-term survival that virtually all surviving communities do it/ have done it until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:30 PM
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In places like India you can be disowned by your family for being a slut.How does that reconcile with the view this is based in jealousy?Is her father disowning his slut daughter because he's jealous he isn't fucking her?The primary cause is disgust not jealousy I agree. Evolutionary psychology is always dangerous, but I'm going to try it anyway. Suppose the following were true: 1.) Women have a duel sexual imperative. 2.) That the conflict between the imperatives is (a) trying to obtain the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:25 PM
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This is such a cringe-y post because it implies it's something only men should worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:00 PM
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A woman who enjoys sex for its own sake is either a slut or she doesn't exist. Red pill 101. I'm not sure you're getting that quite right. I'd be curious to see an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:10 PM
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Why do people ride exercise bikes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:05 PM
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Care to be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:04 PM
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Does a woman who wants sex because she wants to cum on her man's dick like sex as an end in itself? A woman who wants sex because she wants to cum on her man's dick sounds like a woman who really likes sex. I would like to find this woman, if you can point her out to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:01 PM
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The thing that make a man attractive to a woman are entirely different than the things that make a woman attractive to a man. A man can go a couple of days without shaving and appear more attractive, not less. Stubble, on the other hand, is never a good look on a woman. A man can get a scar that will not affect his attractiveness one bit. A scar is pretty much never attractive on a women. Which reminds me: in third grade I got a nasty scar on my knee. I remember my mother saying, "It's a good th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:38 PM
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Many men on here claim they'd never be in a LTR with a woman with a high N count, but despite what many would claim I am completely confident they'd deep down feel much differently if all of her partners were previously women (pretend she had some sexual epiphany and realized she wanted to be with a man). Agree. I think the visceral reaction that many men on here have if all of those partners had been men, does like I said come from insecurity and jealously. Disagree. It is a visceral reaction, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:26 PM
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Uh. It looks like you're right? Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:19 PM
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Jealousy evolved as a mechanism to ensure your offspring is actually yours. Why would anyone rationally be bothered by same sex affairs? If that's all there was to jealousy, women wouldn't be jealous. They always know their children are theirs. But women experience jealousy also.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:16 PM
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I think you mistake jealousy for the distaste for high n count women If I gave that impression, it was not my intent. Sexual jealousy and a preference for low n-count women are different. There's a link in there somewhere, but they aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:13 PM
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This is my point entirely. I think the bitter and jaded guys on here who could write a master's thesis on why they dislike women with high N counts, are really just angry about other men getting laid and projecting their failures I agree with part of what you said, and not the other part. Men are not "projecting their failures": That's just another way of rationalizing something that's not rational. A preference for low-count - or even 0-count - women is primal. It can't be rationalized any more…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:02 PM
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An instinct (a) doesn't have to be justified; and (b) can't be justified. It just is. It's primal, not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:27 PM
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An instinct (a) doesn't have to be justified; and (b) can't be justified. It just is. It's primal, not rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:27 PM
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I experienced both sides of it. Many long eons ago I had a girlfriend who had a girlfriend. And she - my girlfriend's girlfriend - was smoking hot. For a while it drove me crazy. Later... not so much. I can't say for sure what changed, but I think what happened is I stopped being afraid my girlfriend would leave me for another girl. Once I lost that fear, the jealousy stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:23 PM
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Yes. I would even take it a step further: most men wouldn't be bothered if their wives/girlfriends had an affair with another woman. People try to rationalize jealousy, but it's not rational. It's visceral.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:06 PM
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The argument is that women are less likely to have sex for its own sake. In your example, I'd say the ulterior motive is maintaining a resilient monogamous relationship. IOW: pair bonding. Not saying she doesn't enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:55 PM
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What are you saying here? They don't even need to tell you what the extra reason is? You just *know*? Does this include any women beyond those you've been intimate with? It means you can form a model of someone's preferences and incentives from watching how he behaves. And that watching behavior provides better data than listening to what a person says. IOW: a high percentage of everything people say is bullshit. Watching what they do will tell you more about what they really think than listenin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:49 PM
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Yeah, I don't see it. Culture has changed since 1999, but I think Chris Rock could still say it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:34 PM
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You're right: "ulterior motive" sounds sinister. I like to ride my bike. But not so much if I'm going nowhere. I need a destination. If there's a purpose, I enjoy it much more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:31 PM
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Evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 07:06 PM
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Different how?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:30 PM
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Are you missing the point on purpose? Because literally no one is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:30 PM
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How many times monthly, on average, do women confide in you about why they engaged someone sexually? "Don't listen to what women SAY. Watch what they DO." What has convinced you that women are so incapable...? You seem to be having an argument with someone else, who said something different than what I said. Consider, if a man isn't appealing enough to make sex with him its own end, why would any woman want him for a boyfriend? Because she's interested in a commitment; not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:07 AM
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"Problematic"? Problematic, how? That women like to get freaky in bed? Or that they'll only do it the guy is confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:55 AM
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Eh, it's another women can't win scenario. Woman has sex because she enjoys sex: slut Really? I thought a "slut" was someone who had casual sex with many partners. You'd be hard pressed - I think - to find anyone who thought a woman who enjoys sex with one partner was a slut. Woman has sex because she wants deeper, long-lasting relationship: Pickmeisha, simp Well, "Pickmeisha" is an FDS epithet. And I don't think it has anything to do with wanting a deeper, long-lasting relationship... unless I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:42 AM
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So you have sex with men because batteries are expensive...? Or because sex toys can't tie you down?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:25 AM
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Saw what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:22 AM
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I understand what you're saying, but... isn't it the rule, as far as swingers go, that no single men are allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:19 AM
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Commitment to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:08 AM
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l ain’t no expert or no shit, but, fellas, if you’re gonna talk dirty to your woman… you got to talk with authority. You can get a woman to do any nasty little thing you want. You say that shit like a man, make a little eye contact… put a little bass in your voice, she will do that shit. She wants to do that shit. She’s dying to do that shit. Your woman is nastier than you ever imagined. But you gotta come correct… because anything you mumble ain’t getting done. You can’t be in bed all unsure, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:41 AM
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Betas think women exchange sex for money because that’s what betas offer women.Chad definitely doesn’t think this. LOL I've always wondered about Chad: how many women are trying to convert him? How many are there because it's the cool thing to do? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:19 AM
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Hooker : You're new... I'll give you a discount Teddy Flood : No offense but I'd rather earn a woman's affection than pay for it. Hooker : You're always paying for it darling. The difference is our costs are fixed and posted right there on the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:04 AM
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For men, there is 0 upside to marrying a promiscuous woman. For women, there's a definite upside. If you look at romance novels, the woman is typically a virgin; the guy is a player until he meets the heroine. For women, the optimal outcome is to marry a guy who was successful with women before he meets you, (proving AF) but faithful afterwards (proving BB).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:41 AM
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I'm always perplexed by the 40 year old MBA women who can't figure out where the good men went. Yes, YOU want a professional, high-income educated man. Guess what? Men are still men, and their preferences aren't the same as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:14 AM
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You got my upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:11 AM
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Wow. How much time did she spending editing those photos? She practically looks like an anime drawing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:39 PM
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CMV: A number of the boys here don't know any women on a close level ,especially older women, and are talking out their asses when they speak about womens dating lives I think it's against the rules to agree with you, so I won't do that. But if it's true it's only one part of what's going on. The other part is that people are reacting to a cultural narrative. The narrative is widespread, popular, and socially approved: women should "have fun" in their twenties and wait for their thirties to sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:35 PM
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That’s why u/Appomattoxx said, if he's not willing to be your servant, he's not really an HVM. That's true, but I don't think it affects any of the other prerequisites: he still has to be tall enough, handsome enough, have a good enough job... It's just that in addition to all that, the HVM has to worship and pursue her as well. But the point of FDS is -that when she fails to find all that - that the echo chamber tells her it's men's fault; not hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:38 PM
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Ah. Thank you. I didn't think that could be right. I don't know what 24k means on Tiktok, but that's pretty lame for YouTube. Still, she'd only need a couple hundred @ $12.99/mo to make a living. The thing would be marketing and promotion. That rant got her some more subscribers. If it was deliberate marketing, it was genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 07:52 AM
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The idea that women rake in good cash doing this is a mistake. The 26-year-old, who charges subscribers $12.99 per month for her photos and videos on the adult entertainment subscription platform, posted an emotional video on TikTok last week in which she said she could no longer support herself financially. "It's really difficult to talk about it because it's so humiliating and stuff," the creator said through tears. "Like everyone on TV is always talking about how, like, everyone's lost their …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:13 AM
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I hear you. And again, I don't think it's the least bit controversial in TRP. In fact I'll do you one better. Not only is TRP not good for women, it's not good for society. TRPers would say they're only playing the hand they've been dealt - and it's not only not their responsibility to change society, but they couldn't change it - individually, or collectively - even if they wanted. "Enjoy the fall," is the short-hand version.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:10 AM
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I think that's pretty much the response I get whenever I ask that question. The question is why would an HVM - who is rare by definition - want to settle for a woman who treats him like a servant? *** I will guess the answer: if he's not willing to be your servant, he's not really an HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:01 AM
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No, women want AF and BB in one man. Pure AF without BB is damaging. TRP 101: Women want a man who's soft, but hard. Strong, but pliable. Stoic, but not stoic. The question for men is not how to be both (impossible) but which one to be: the one she fucks when she's in her 20's, or the one who holds her purse in her 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:56 PM
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I'd be curious be curious to know what FDS thinks it takes to draw a good man. What is their strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:35 PM
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For the latest report, in the Journal of Sex Research, psychologists at North Texas University asked 355 college women: How often have you fantasized being overpowered, forced, raped by a man or woman to have oral, vaginal, anal sex against your will? Sixty-two percent said they'd had at least one such fantasy. But responses varied depending on the terminology used. When asked about being "overpowered by a man," 52 percent said they'd had that fantasy, the situation most typically depicted in wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:31 PM
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I wouldn't bet that because it's a hyperbolic statement That's why I called you out on it. I don't know the percent any more than you do, but we both know it's more than one. The point is that you can't argue that "rape kink has more members than FDS" when very clearly rape kink is full of male perverts. I thought we just established there are female perverts, too. FDS probably has way more readers than subscribers as well because lots of women read it but don't subscribe. If you think rape kink…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:26 PM
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I know you just pulled that stat out of your ass; but if it were possible I'd bet any amount of money that more than 1% are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:15 PM
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Hot men willing to pump and dump you are a dime a dozen. But hot women who're dtf is rare. That's why, if you're a man, you have to work for that shit. No, they are allowing men to fake something that women want. What is it they're faking? TRP says it's not enough to pretend to be the guy women want to fuck; you have to be that guy. No. They bemoan the lack of attractive men WILLING TO COMMIT to them. Their idea of what they want in a man is nothing any man - other than a simp - would want any p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:12 PM
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Unless you believe that women have a duel mating strategy; and that what they want is two things: AF and BB. In that case, TRP is giving women half of what they want. FDS, on the other hand, is just an emotional pacifier: it's not your fault you can't secure a commitment ladies, it's MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:56 PM
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The male and female imperative are... not wholly consistent. TRP teaches men how to get what they want: women. FDS teaches women how to feel ok about they are: alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:35 PM
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Very few women participate in FDS. Rape kink has more members.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:32 PM
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Bullshit. Most women hate rough sex, and of the ones that do like it rough, there are far, far, far more dominant women than submissive women. Submissive, kinky women are very rare. Conclusion based on... extensive field work?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:31 PM
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If you're ruthless enough, math doesn't apply to you. I know HVW who can divide by zero. True fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:35 PM
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TRP says don't marry unless you want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:03 PM
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Every woman can get an HVM: we just have to be selective and ruthless with our standards. 📷level 2cirrus_cloudFDS Apprentice15 days ago We all deserve a partner like this babe! You, me, every woman on earth! I know we can find men like this :) we just have to be selective and ruthless with our standards ❤️ 46ReplyGive AwardShareReportSavelevel 3PeachypinkpwrThrowaway Account15 days ago But how can we all find one, when 95% of men are LV? 10ReplyShareSaveEdit📷level 4--wellDAM--FDS Apprentice14 da…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:59 PM
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But... what have they been lying about? That women like nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:04 AM
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But on the other hand, TRP is also notorious for instilling men with an external locus of control (fixed mindset). TRP is eager to victimize men and blame their problems on women's "nature"/feminism, rather than accepting responsibility for their lack of success. The TRP sidebar's heavily based on Rollo Tomassi's The Rational Male , which is basically one long tirade about how feminism and women's biological imperative-- two unfixable things beyond your control-- are responsible for your lack of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:11 PM
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I upvoted because your post is long. Effort should be rewarded. Unfortunately, I lost the thread at some point. That particular part really reminded me of the "Disney/my mom lied to me, girls won't just love me for me" kind of red-pill seeking mentality. I don't think that's TRP. That's, like, when you first figure out that your culture has been lying to you since forever, about something that's really important. You're supposed to move past that stage. If you don't, you're just an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:04 PM
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From an evolutionary pov, a guy who's fucked a lot of girls is merely proving he's good at reproduction. That's something you're going to want your sons to inherit, if you have any. The perfect guy is one who's fucked every other girl he's looked at, but then becomes perfectly monogamous when he meets you. Which is the plot of ever romance novel written ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:57 PM
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I've seen the common complaint that fds does not encourage any kind of self improvement like trp does. That's because FDS does not encourage any kind of self-improvement like TRP does. Basically: "You're a Queen. Act like a Queen. Anybody who doesn't treat you like a Queen is an LVM scrote loser." I mean, I thought about trolling them... but they're doing it to themselves so effectively it's hard to feel much more than pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:48 PM
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I hope I never find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:43 PM
2

Deserve's got nothing to do with it. What is most important... however, is that this simple line encapsulates one of the central tenets of literary naturalism: that we are at the mercy of forces beyond our control, and there is no stable or just order in the natural world that will ensure that we get what we deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:35 PM
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WTF. Who are these 80+ year olds who are cheating? Most the 80+ people I know can barely make it up the stairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:20 PM
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Your words seem to make logical grammatical sense. But it hurts when I try to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 07:57 PM
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I don't know why this is so surprising. Non-internet people have arrangements all the time. Maybe I'm too old for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 07:54 PM
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In order of reverse importance: Eh. It's 2020. Put up a few photos, filter out some duds, and you could be making $$$ in no time. If you meant commitment of resources, there's no greater commitment than getting it up front. I think you mean something different by "commitment" than what I thought. This is the first time you've mentioned status. What do you mean by "commitment and status"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 07:52 PM
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Boolean logic gets me every time. Thank god for Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 07:45 PM
1

I won't fall for the same trick twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:43 AM
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You know how people are trying really hard to be funny but aren't? It was like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:29 AM
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Because you know there's a stupid easy way to trade resources for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:27 AM
5

Are you being facetious? Because I'm about to get stoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:13 AM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:04 AM
1

That was 1 minute and 37 seconds of my life I'll never get back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:02 AM
5

If men want sex, what is it that women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:54 AM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 01:26 AM
1

I’d be a selfish piece of shit if I pressured my stressed out husband for sex I'm sure your husband appreciates your restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:59 PM
1

I get it. You're too stressed and overworked to have sex. And it's his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:55 PM
1

You know what really relieves stress? Sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:33 PM
1

You asked: Should your dick come before your home, food, and children? Which implies men are selfish for wanting intimacy. I was curious if you also thought women were selfish, if they were the ones who wanted intimacy. I'm still not sure what you think, other than it's up to the person who wants intimacy to solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:29 PM
1

It sounds like you're saying it's normal for a woman to lose interest, but if it's a man, there must be something wrong with him...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:58 PM
1

Why don't we ask some women what they think? I lay awake horny and lonely next to my husband. Not able to sleep and just wishing he would touch me. I'll cry myself to sleep... ​ Just here to rant. Its never nice feeling so fucking alone that even your own tears are bored of you. Sick of saying i might feel better soon or things could change because i know they wont. I never thought id ever be in this situation. Not even 30 and helplessly miserable. Sometimes i wonder why theres any point in anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:55 PM
1

You seem to be quick to blame husbands when their wives lose interest. Are wives equally guilty when their husbands lose interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:39 PM
1

And yes, they also have sex for other reasons: but none of those reasons include rewarding a guy for being a good boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:22 PM
4

Also if you take care of her dog. Taking care of her dog always turns them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:18 PM
1

If you don’t think being overly nice to women and making them feel special makes them want to fuck men... Nope. I don't. Every other cam girl on the internet has guys being "overly nice" and making them feel "special". You know what that makes them? Simps. A woman will never lose attraction for a simp, because she was never attracted to him in the first place. At most, she'll pretend long enough to lock him down or get whatever she wants from him. But that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:14 PM
2

It works when you're dating, too. When I was dating I used to vacuum her rugs, and - BAM - she'd be on me like white on rice. Claw marks all up and down my back. Know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:58 PM
1

You're right: women have sex because they're feeling libidinous. But romantic efforts and choreplay are not what makes them feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:47 PM
2

What's interesting is it's the AF/BB conflict all over again. Women will say, "Men don't get sex because they don't do enough choreplay." But of course no actual woman ever got aroused because a man did the laundry. And women know that. But claiming otherwise: Convinces chumps they should be doing more housework; and Shifts the argument away from what's really going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:43 PM
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Yeah. And taking out the trash. Taking out the trash is a sure-fire turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:51 AM
2

Do women have sex because it feels good? Or for some other reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:31 AM
2

And lack of lustfullness doesn’t mean there’s no passion or that sex still insbt great. It’s just not gonna be like brand new, even if you work and have perfect relationship. That's exactly what it means. Lustful and passionate are literally synonyms. And you posted just two posts above that lustfulness wears off: "No matter what." Why are you backtracking now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:15 AM
1

Which part do you find sexiest: him doing the dishes, or him folding the towels?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:07 AM
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5 years down the line that lustfulness wears off. No matter what. I think this is something not all TPRers agree on, but, yeah, there are plenty of them who say you should not marry no matter what. For this exact reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:03 AM
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It’s no longer considered red pill to understand women need some level of romantic effort to maintain attraction? If so that is news to me. It was never RP to imagine women "reward" romantic efforts. That has always been BP thinking. Women do what they do either to OBTAIN something valuable in the future, or to KEEP something they have in the present. Rewarding something in the PAST isn't part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:55 AM
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my point is that when you erase the proportion of women who are under loved, over stressed and over worked, the amount of deadbedrooms is minuscule. What I’ve spelled out on this thread is the precursor to MOST deadbedrooms. Go to r/DeadBedrooms and find one post where this is the underlying problem. Just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:42 AM
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Feeling unloved can and does kill female libido. Feeling unappreciated can and will kill female libido. Feeling stressed can and will kill female libido, so on and so forth. Check out r/DeadBedrooms. Will it shock you to learn about half the posts come from women? Before you get too worked up defending women who don't want sex, check and see how many women are worked up because their husbands don't want sex. The issue may not be as gendered as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:31 AM
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Well fuck you, I’m reserving my energy and attention for those priorities, and your dick is coming last EVERY FUCKING TIME. Wow. I was afraid the truth wouldn't come out. It turns out choreplay IS the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:20 AM
2

No. Choreplay really turns women on. Seriously. Just go ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:17 AM
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choreplay LOL. I have to remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:15 AM
0

Actually go to r/twoxchromosomes and share the gospel of prudishness. What's their narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:14 AM
1

poo poo. Ok. I'll let you two be alone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:12 AM
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What’s more laughable is that not a single guy who expects his wife to fuck him like she did when they first met courts and schmoozes his wife like he did when they first met. These guys are hopelessss Your conclusion is based on two highly questionable assumptions: (1) that he "courted and schmoozed" when they met; and (2) that courting and schmoozing have any effect on a woman's libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:11 AM
0

Sex at the beginning is always gonna be hotter and more frequent. Because she hasn't gotten what she's after.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:08 AM
2

it’s takes two to tango. You haven't met my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:03 AM
1

Good article. Didn't much care for the conclusion, but the rest was gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:30 AM
1

I can't say because I haven't been active since before the quarantine... but I will say that even back in the day I thought the theory was insightful, but the people were ass-wipes. So far as I can tell, it's only gotten worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:10 AM
1

women/feminism They are the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:02 AM
1

when you date as many women as I have Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 02:01 AM
1

pure intentions Pondering what that could mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:59 AM
1

I will tell you for one upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:53 AM
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I’m alone because I’m short and average looking and women, regardless of what they pretend here, are incredibly shallow.I prefer solitude because I am also intelligent, creative, perceptive, driven, self aware, reflective and a deep thinker; a combination of traits 99% of humans simply don’t possess. If you are all these things, there are women who'd want to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:01 AM
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A monogamous relationship is one were two people are having sex exclusively with each there. If there’s no sex, it’s not a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:04 AM
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Put her in a Walmart/bank/post office anywhere in the world - she's top 50%, easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 10:51 PM
2

Yeah, my feelings as well. Not sure what they're thinking. In 2016, 69% of U.S. women were either overweight or obese. In their system, you have to get down to 2 to find anyone overweight. If's fucked up. You don't get to genuinely unattractive women until 2.5/ some 3's. And a 2.5 is supposed to be 1/50. :shrugs:
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:10 PM
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Yes, men are often expected to be stronger in some ways. This is bad. If you want to live a happy life, you should date someone who does not mind if you are vulnerable, and also does not expect you to be always taking care of them. I'm actually ambivalent about whether it's bad or not. I am 100% in favor of people recognizing it for what it is, however. IRL, it doesn't matter, because no one person can change a deep-seated cultural construct. For men (individually) it's not a matter of whether t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:47 PM
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She can’t get commitment from a guy like this (the guy she deserves) but rather than lower her standards to someone more realistic she just blames men for being assholes. It's amazing how many complaints by women come down to, "Why can't all men be in the top 5%?!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:22 PM
0

Take Elisabeth Moss, put her in a WalMart - or any big box store - and she'd be in the top 50%, easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:18 PM
1

You're just confirming u/Maybelowsmv's observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:11 PM
1

+1
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:08 PM
2

Sour grapes. You're not better than everyone else - it's just that imagining it makes you feel better about being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:06 PM
1

I always liked Rorschach the best. I mean, the guy was fucked in the head (not his fault) but he took no prisoners, never lied to anyone, and died with his principles intact. Never liked Ozymandias. Sure he's smart. But he's also smug.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:03 PM
2

Exactly. Ugly on TV =/= ugly in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:33 PM
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Ack. My bad. I'm an idiot. Elisabeth. Still not a 4, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:26 PM
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This. Yes, ugly buff guy is still ugly. But take any guy, and make him buff, and his attraction level goes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:12 PM
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Kate Moss was a freaking model, for christsake. I think rating her as a 4 - below average - is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:09 PM
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Curious if chart from r/truerateme is accurate. Theone for women is complete BS. They have Elizabeth Moss as a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:52 PM
0

So, a guy hits puberty, and - BAM - every pretty girl looks like a goddess to him. The thing he suddenly wants more than life itself is all around him - but he has literally no idea how to get it. So he tries to find out. "Be yourself," he's told. "Be respectful. Be polite. Be nice." But guess what? None of that shit works. So he's still doing something wrong. But what is it? And... strangely... the guys the really hot girls are going for - the girls he idolizes the most - they're going off with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:01 AM
2

Texas. Don't care. Child has my name though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:24 AM
2

She doesn’t want him to solve her problem. She wants him to just listen and to get it off her chest. Actually, she wants a little more than that. She wants him to side with her and tel her she is right. But whatever. The point is the cliche exists - meaning men are actively trying to help women. There's no corresponding cliche about women. Is that because: (a) women are so great at helping men; or (b) because there's no corresponding expectation about women helping men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:01 AM
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How often do you hear women complain that they just want to vent and their man tries to solve the problem instead. Yes. It's practically a cliche. Which indicates certain expectations about men: 1. That they're expected to be responsive to women's problems; and 2. that they're supposed to react in the right way (the way women want them to). You don't hear complaints about women fixing (or failing to fix) men's problems. That could be because they're so great at it. Or it could be there's no expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:12 AM
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Aren't OP's two examples (1) a woman not being "stoic" and an engaged partner who is willing to engage and help her process and (2) women complaining about a man who is stoic and does not allow them to engage and help him process?(Honestly I don't even see how OP has made any case for a double standard, but anyway) I would say her problem wasn't that he was being stoic; if he had been, she wouldn't have known. The problem was that he was being withdrawn. Not the same as being stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:50 AM
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Men generally can't be as emotionally vulnerable in that way, not just because of their own inability to due to being conditioned to be stoic but also because many women are not socialised to handle that type of emotion in men. TRP would say I think that it's not just a matter of socialization; women are instinctively repulsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:45 AM
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The notion than the average man can tolerate a partner with mental illness is an RP fantasy. The average person can't. There are many people with mental illnesses. For its part, the National Alliance on Mental Illness reports that “approximately 1 in 5 adults in the U.S. (46.6 million) experience mental illness in a given year. This breaks down into: 1.1% (2.4 million) of American adults living with schizophrenia. 2.6% (6.1 million) living with bipolar disorder. 6.9% (16 million) living with maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:41 AM
2

Where do you draw the line between prostitution and a vanilla relationship? What if you have a girlfriend, and you start helping her with her rent? What if you give her expensive gifts? What if you take her shopping every couple of weeks? What if - instead of paying her rent or taking her shopping - you give her money so she can buy whatever she wants herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:57 PM
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Stumbled across one the other day. I don't think it's hard to find them. They're pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:36 PM
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I have common law marriage in my state too. I believe it would be considered fraud if you represent yourself as married for purposes of taxes/medicaid, but I cannot say that for sure. Just a suspicion. You don't wanna fuck around with the IRS lol. It's a difficult question. I know the law in my state is you're married if you live together and say you are. I don't know how it works in other states. I can't imagine the IRS going after a couple who considered themselves married, because they didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:20 PM
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I think the answer is to love someone you love, even if loving the person you love is (in some people's eyes) "settling". Sometimes you make a connection with someone and you can't unmake it, even if you want to. Worrying about whether their "SMV" is equivalent to yours is useless and self-defeating. There is literally no point in it. Sometimes you love who you love. You don't get to make a decision. Just my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:04 PM
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Interesting. I don't think it's fraud, though. In my state if you live together and tell people you're married, that's good enough. The polygamous FDLS FLDS 'prophet' (or whatever he called himself) never got a license for any of his wives, but was convicted of polygamy anyway. Being married and having a license are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:50 PM
2

Automod please ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:09 PM
1

There will never be sex robots. Or flying cars. Or personal jetpacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:10 PM
1

"Divorce rape" is a term that gets thrown around a lot, especially by RP and incel types. I believe "divorce rape" is not as much of a thing as some people make it out to be. Yes, the courts are still unfair, but there's a big difference between that and comparing it to rape. I'm trying to discuss whether the RP fear of "divorce rape" is exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:07 PM
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It's not a contract with the state. It's not even like a fishing license. It's more like a voluntary registration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:41 PM
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'Divorce rape' is another thing: I understand that every state has different laws and some states are better than others, But if I got divorced the only 'unfair' thing that would happen is my daughter would live with my wife and I'd have to pay child support. Don't get me wrong, that sucks, but even that's negotiable - some parents trade off every week, for example. I really believe "divorce rape" is only a thing (a) in certain states and (b) if one spouse is making way more than the other. Yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:37 PM
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People always say this, but I've never had anyone ask for a marriage license ever. Not when buying a house, opening a bank account, starting a business, having a baby, filing taxes, never. For all the difference it would make, we could have skipped the marriage license altogether. I'm curious whether any married person here - are there any? - has ever had to prove that they were married to anyone, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:24 PM
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As of now the top post is labelled “Male Depravity”. The 2nd is something about Elon Musk. 3rd is “I like being alone.” 4th is “Male Depravity” 5th is “Hate my ex” 6th: “Horrifieid by men” Not really sure what 7th is about. Something to do with not wasting time on men. Next is “Pickmeisha Hall of Fame” 9th is about respecting ugly women. “It's so humiliating to be treated like you are worthless because you have the audacity to be an unattractive woman.” Incel much? 10th is “Stay Woke” Cautions w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:47 PM
2

There's nothing wrong with being alone. What's weird is that FDS pretends to be a dating strategy when it's a not-dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:27 PM
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The only thing a woman gains from FDS is validation for choosing to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:08 PM
1

Can't reply because can't tell if you're male or female. This never happens to me, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:46 AM
2

What is the difference between using a woman for sex, and wanting to have sex with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:51 AM
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You have my upvote. Life - society/ culture - is especially unfair to black women. I would stop doing this, though: When people do "like you" just remember that they probably like you because of some creepy fucking race play fetish or something. They don't actually like you because your cool or cute or anything of that sort all of those things are impossible. That's really toxic. If someone likes you, accept the like. There's no reason to creep yourself out. Don't do this to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:40 PM
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Women are going to say they care about the count, because equality. They don't. The only thing they care about is the count after you met them. In fact, if anything - more is better, because pre-selection. That's why calling a male a virgin is an insult and calling a female a virgin is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:33 PM
1

The future belongs to those who reproduce. It's always been that way. Nature doesn't care if you're good or bad. It only cares about your genetic success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:30 PM
1

The idea that women are more valuable than men didn't happen by accident. Any tribe, country or other group that doesn't protect its women is going to fail. Men and women are equal, but not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:26 PM
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Who are "they"? What minority are you in? What treatment was unfair? What does mrs drgree have to do with anything? Who said "I'll be damned if we don't try"? What were they trying to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:19 PM
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Humans are social animals. It's important not to under-estimate the influence of biological impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:58 PM
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Of course they agreed. They were asking me how I felt to be in the minority in terms of views. They were asking me if I felt protected on the platform. I told them I felt /u/mrs_drgree moderators made the lack of impartiality worse & treatment was unfair. They basically agreed & kind've implied there wasn't anything they could do, especially considering the circumstances social moment we're living in but verbatim said, "I'll be damned if we don't try". I don't understand this comment. Could you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:55 PM
2

Who are these guys who are doing the mass-murdering?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:46 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:44 PM
0

I think the answer you're going to get from some of the women is they're "punching up". I think that's inadequate, because (1) if you can do something others can't, that means you're privileged in a way that others aren't; and (2) it's debatable whether women are really suppressed in 2020 (I think they aren't); and (3) hating a whole group of people for how they are born is bigoted, regardless of whether you think you're "punching up" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:43 PM
1

You forgot male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:44 PM
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The real question is "why are men not equipped with the social skills to approach women?" The real question is, if women are seriously complaining about this, why don't they do the approaching themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:33 PM
1

You realize you're replying to a comment literally nobody made, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:26 PM
2

Seriously? Are women legit complaining about not being approached? Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:02 PM
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u/AfraidEducation already said it, but yes: Hypergamy. Women marry up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:01 PM
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You say a woman should keep her man happy in bed. Yes. The man has the same responsibility. Absolutely. And I think it is wrong to force yourself to sex if you don't want it. Yes. So if she has to force herself to sex to keep her man happy she sacrifices her own happiness and that is wrong. If you have to force yourself to have sex, you shouldn't get married. Or - if you do get married - you should tell your prospective spouse you want a platonic relationship ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:13 PM
3

Not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:05 PM
1

I would tell you to look at r/sexworkersonly, but it looks like it's been closed down. Why couldn't you get paid for sex? Dick is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:00 PM
1

We can talk about whatever you want, so long as it's not *me*.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:54 PM
1

I hear you saying if a woman doesn't want sex, the husband did something wrong. I understand it's a popular narrative. I'm not sure how accurate it is, though. Take this this woman, for example. Or consider any of the women who suffer from this condition. And I'm curious - if it's the husband who doesn't want sex, is it the wife's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:38 AM
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Studies have shown that the benefits of marriage for health and men’s wages are a product of selection, not causation: healthier men and men with greater earning capacity are more likely to get married in the first place. Sicker and poorer men are less likely to find wives. Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:14 AM
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I'm saying women who have sex for money are doing it because it's easy money - not because they're mentally ill. And that making a bad choice isn't the same as being a victim. And that, of course, is assuming it's a bad choice in the first place. Personally, if I could get paid for sex, that's what I would be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:54 AM
1

The whole village thing is a fantasy. Suppose a girl runs off and comes back with a baby belly and no man. What do you think the village thinks about that? "You go girl! Thanks for making us take up the slack!" No. The whole culture of celebrating women's virtue and shaming promiscuity is an effort to prevent girls from doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:10 AM
1

The average woman only needs X amount of validation/attention/sex to be satisfied. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:01 AM
2

What does a lesbian bring on her second date? -----A UHaul. ​ What does a gay man bring to a second date? ----What second date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:57 PM
1

So if you take her on enough dates, buy her enough flowers, and give her enough gifts... attraction is negotiable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 11:41 PM
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It's one of those rare things the left & right collectively agree on. Also, decriminalization is typically based on the Nordic model meaning its legal to sell, but illegal to buy. A way to please both those against it & for it at the same time via pretending to meet in the middle in some nonsensical way. Imagine going to Mcdonalds, they can sell you a big mac - here's the catch - you can't buy it meaning you can't eat it LOL Both the left & right suffer from straight male hysteria. Yes. The tren…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:44 PM
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Who is to say that the best sacrifice is a woman's life over a man's handy sexual gratification? Strange way to frame it. It's almost like women who choose to exchange money for sex lack agency. Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:39 PM
3

You can't look at a woman. You might accidentally subject her to the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:28 PM
3

Why So Many Women Cheat On Their Husbands It occurred to me as I listened that these women were describing infidelity not as a transgression but a creative or even subversive act, a protest against an institution they’d come to experience as suffocating or oppressive. ... Many of the women Walker interviewed were in marriages that were functional... But at the same time, they found married life incredibly dull and constraining and resented the fact that as women, they felt they consistently did …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:22 PM
1

"Monolithic." Sorry couldn't help myself. But you're right. In any large group there are always people who don't fit the stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:53 PM
0

I'm curious if you're being serious. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:50 PM
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Take her out on dates, give lavish gifts, full-body loving massages...then MAYBE she won't kill your bedroom. Disagree. Desire is not negotiable. There are also the 1.2 million members of r/niceguys who would disagree with you. If you're not attractive to a woman you're not attractive. No amount of gifts will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:49 PM
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The sexes were always meant to help each other and be codependent. The nonsense of we vs them is a phenomenon that is damaging. +1 Also FWIW: It's silly to blame any individual for what OTHER members of their gender have done or not done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:35 PM
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Deciding if you want kids is entirely up to you, of course. I have one and she is the best thing in my life. But if you're not sure, maybe it's better not to have one. I will say though, that we waited a long time and by the time we decided it was almost too late for us. In fact, we were lucky. You can look at the numbers yourself, and probably already have. So you know you don't have forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:47 PM
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Please don't do this! You are setting your daughter up to be a lamb among wolves. Fourteen-year-old boys are generally pretty shy and awkward. When the time comes, let your daughter get some dating practice and learn to hold her own with guys her own age who are similarly figuring things out. If you send her out there as an innocent, naive 20-year-old, dating boys who have had five or six years of experience, she's gonna be way out of her league. Well, my objective is exactly that: to give her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:55 PM
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You tell her that if a boy asks her out on a date, he has to show up at the house, and come in and meet her parents and pass muster first. She will develop respect for the boys who have the spinal fortitude to do this, and contempt for the ones who lack courage. Thank you. She's obviously still a few years from dating, but I think it's good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:31 PM
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(2) don't make him believe you respect him, respect him. And with (2) and (3) look for someone who does the same thing for you. If keeping a man happy in bed means you aren't happy then he does not respect you. And if keeping you happy in bed means you do NOT want to have sex it is all the right you have. If he leaves you bc of that, he only used you for sex anyway. Agree that it's equally important that both are happy with their relationship. In retrospect, framing it the way I did was a mistak…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:29 PM
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I hear what you're saying. I was not sheltered, and I did some really stupid shit when I was a kid - things that could have got me killed or arrested. Looking back now - I realize I was very lucky. FWIW the school she goes to doesn't sound like yours. She might wind up in a place like that, but not until HS. Really I think all anyone can ever do is try to give their child the best start possible. And what that looks like is going to be different depending on the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:22 PM
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If birth rates were falling across the board, that would be one thing. But too many people who should be having kids aren't, and too many people who shouldn't are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:07 PM
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No, I want her to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:32 AM
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Some of this advice is very good, some of it is okay, but there are a few things I will sort of question/take issue with. I'll confess to being curious about your background/cultural context. I was raised in an environment where there was something wrong with getting married right out of college--I'd have been open to it with the right guy, but I'd have been committing a large taboo and would have been judged by my family and wider community. Because of that, if such a thing had happened, I'd ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:51 AM
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If she comes to you specifically with a dicey issue be a willing and eager Benedict Arnold. Use every bit of insider knowledge you have as a man to the outcome that best serves her needs. She's your blood and should get no less. Agree. But would put it differently. Life on 'hard mode' pretty shitty. Life is going to leave its mark on her regardless of what I do. But I'd like to save her from as many scars as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:37 AM
1

I'm surprised you think I have "zero meaningful experience" with menstruation. What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:14 AM
0

I don't think you're being completely serious. But since I don't know, I'll pretend that you are. Try as hard as you can to become a lesbian. Do I seriously have to respond to this? Men will never love and respect you for who you are. I'm sorry you feel that way. Is this something you genuinely believe? Don't have sex with someone until you are ready to be emotionally attached to them. It's not bad advice. I'll have to think about it. Be financially independent Good advice for anybody. Still, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:11 AM
1

Yeah. Who do you consider losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:55 PM
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(1) Marry the right guy in the first place, (2) make him believe you respect him and value him as a man (~~even when he's acting like a dumb-as~~s), and make sure he respects you and value you as a woman. I took "make sure he respects" for granted. But of course you're right. I don't want her to marry a guy who doesn't respect her. (3) make sure he's happy in bed and sex should be pleasurable for both parties. Talk to each other about what you like and don't like. Remember to keep it exciting an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:03 PM
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And I'm telling you it won't make any difference lol. It's her life. You and (ideally her mother) could give her as much advice as you want, but she has to WANT to see relationships in the same way you two do. All you can do is be good, moral parents, be there for your child when she needs you and hope for the best. I think we can do more than that. Having said that, even if all we did is what you suggested, I suspect we would be better than average parents. Certainly better than my parents did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:39 PM
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Not trying to throw shade at anybody - just saying why she's in private school. We don't want her to be traumatized like both her parents were. I understand lots of kids do fine in public school. I wasn't one of them, and neither was my wife. And I seriously doubt my daughter is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:37 PM
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Illusion. I went to a very small private Christian school and then to public. Kids are kids. These schools offer a better education due to smaller class size and invested parents. The kids in the Christian school were having sex and one of the girls was trying to figure out how to make a rival girl miscarriage. No... this school really isn't like that. For one thing, it's not Christian. (I'm atheist.) But you're right. Small class sizes and invested parents make a difference. Also it's a purely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:34 PM
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Yeah, that frequently leads to youthful rebellion. Doesn't always, but pushing too hard isn't a great idea. Neither is sheltering her too much, that makes her really damn naive. Imagine arriving at college not even knowing what a bong is. If my worst mistake is sending her to college without knowing what a bong is... I'll be pleased with myself. But you're right. it's always a balancing act. And the balance is different for different kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:25 PM
1

she's 11 and you've told her all this?! No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:19 PM
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"Completely inappropriate"? Like what? The point was that menstruation is a normal part of growing up. It's not some sort of secret thing that women are supposed to be embarrassed about and men aren't supposed to know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:18 PM
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..."make him believe you respect him and value him as a man (even when he's acting like a dumb-ass)," So you want her to encourage her man to be a bumbling idiot. There's a difference between "everybody makes mistakes" and "marry a bumbling idiot". "(3) make sure he's happy in bed." I've been privy to talking with both male and female who thought this was real security. It's not. But it is a great way to ensure your daughter gets sexually abused What makes you think that? No one should have to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:08 PM
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I promise you she has exactly 0 problems disagreeing with me. :-) I would like to build a relationship in which she feels like she can always tell me what she thinks, even if she can't always do what she wants. Having said that, she's the kind of kid who is looking for approval and is terrified of making mistakes. I can empathize with that, because I was that way myself at her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:43 PM
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They grow to resent the overprotective sheltering, even if it's in their best interest. That hasn't happened yet. She loves the school she's going to and doesn't realize how sheltered she is. Of course, once she gets a few years older, things may change. That's one of the reasons I want to start talking to her now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:34 PM
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Both of us - my wife and I - had horrible experiences in public school. We're protecting her mostly from bullies. But also from a culture that values style over substance and looks over intelligence. If she's anything like her mother and I - and she is - she's not the type to do well in public school. I think if we can get her to college with a sense of confidence and self-respect, we will have given her an advantage neither of us had.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:29 PM
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I agree with Listen when she wants to talk, be open and try to be empathetic rather than lecture. That is already what I try to do. And she is already very opinionated. But she does want my advice, even if she won't openly admit it. I talked to her about menstruation last week. She acted like it was torture, but she later thanked me - I think - because she understood what I was trying to do. Nothing. Any advice you give her is just fuel for her eventual rebellion. So I should tell her... nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:09 PM
1

What direction? I'm sorry, I don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:03 PM
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I hear what you're saying. Some things will slip through. But she has two very protective parents, and we're sacrificing to put her through private school. The school is extraordinarily protective, and that's why we picked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:02 PM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:30 PM
1

From a woman's perspective, what am I getting right, and what am I getting wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:09 PM
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I'm trying to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically as they relate to a (sort of) RP dad trying to give advice to his daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:01 PM
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Thank you. Unfortunately a mod deleted the post. But you're right that's something I need to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:59 PM
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Well there definitely are people who think women should be going around having casual sex. But I'd consider them to be just one part of our culture. There are at least as many people saying women should be particular rather than promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:55 PM
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It looks like a mod deleted it, so never mind. I was trying to ask for comments, but I made a wall of text so I was trying to break it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:48 PM
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u/cestsoigne: don't have 'friends with benefits'. Also, don't be intimate with men you yourself consider 'losers'. Having sex with me you consider lowers seems obviously self-defeating. Having 'friends with benefits,' on the other hand, is likely to prevent you from getting what you want, while offering few real benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:39 PM
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Don't both mostly consist of bitching under the guise of providing valuable advice? I don't think so. Back in the day, bitching was tolerated, but not encouraged. And anybody who wanted to bitch instead of improve himself was considered a loser. It's always walls of text about this or that horrible person or horrible thing that happened and then the lesson is don't date low value men or all women are whores. I think this is a widely misunderstood part of TRP. What TRP said was NOT that women wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:13 PM
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Yes - they're the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. But FDS offers literally no advice on how to get - and keep - an HVM. 'Raise your standards' and 'believe you're a Queen' don't count. No man wants to commit to a woman because she's entitled and demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:22 PM
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TRP: If you can't get a date: It's your fault. You need to change. Here's how to do it. FDS: If you can't get a man: It's their fault. You don't need to change. Let's sit around bitch about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:21 AM
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The important thing is you're happy with your choice. 95% of men being worthless - is that a recent development? Or has it always been like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:16 AM
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And 95% of men are LVM, so your chances of being alone are...?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:05 AM
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The goal of feminism is not equality. The goal is to liberate women from their responsibilities to men while simultaneously maintaining male responsibilities to women ^^^ This.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:16 AM
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emotional labor Impossible to quantify, but hard to believe anyone who's lived with a woman thinks women do more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:11 AM
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Their default belief is "I just have to wait for the right man to take my bait". And if it doesn't happen, then: "All the fish are Low Value Fish anyway."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:53 PM
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And then there's this: Married men in 2017 had an age-adjusted death rate of 943 per 100,000... Married women had a death rate of 569 per 100,000...the death rate was... 1,166 for never-married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:31 PM
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I hate everything that I/a man needs to do to be attractive. I hate the masculine role, I hate being confident, I hate working my ass off just to get money/status and a standard of living that I have absolutely no interest in having for myself. I hate the mask of seriousness and masculinity that I have to wear to be respected. I hate competing against other men. I hate being the one in charge to make decisions when things go shitty. I hate having to change the way I look and dress... I can go on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:26 PM
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Men flock to pickmeishas. That's why they have boyfriends, and FDSers don't..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:20 PM
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If only there were mods who could tell the difference between succinct, low-effort, and funny, you'd be right. Unfortunately - like the fabled HVM - they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:13 PM
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Well, that degenerated fast. The thing about low-effort posts, though, is that they take so little effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:50 PM
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It's so fucking cute when man-haters and women-haters get together. Underneath all that hate 'I'm so fucking lonely.'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:32 PM
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As a happy femcel, I watch along with 🍿 I call bullshit. There's no such thing as a happy femcell - or - if there is - they're not active on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:02 PM
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I get it. Guys are saying they're taller than they are. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:53 PM
1

Yeah well they're biologically analogous. Women take 'choke the chicken' too literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:43 PM
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OMG you people are so fucking entertaining. I was feeling kind of down this morning, but now I'm smiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:36 PM
1

Do I have to take her back?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:05 AM
1

'IT-illiterate baboon'? I think you like me. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:00 AM
0

So like... PPD & FDS are like... brother/sister subs. That's really fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:15 AM
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Don't start at 10. Start at 1 and work your way up from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:56 AM
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I dunno. But once when I was in college, I had this buddy? And he got totally wasted at a party. The next thing he knew, he was lying in a totally dark room, and some dude was giving him a blowjob. So I asked him, "What did you do?" He said, "Nothing. Why would I turn down a free blow job?" So I thought about it a minute and I said, "If it was totally dark, how did you know it was a dude?" He said, "No teeth."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:56 AM
1

FDS: "the most toxic space on Reddit." Is it possible to set the bar any lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:39 AM
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No, seriously though: women are actually terrible at giving hand jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:20 AM
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It’s not that we have a problem with sluts You have a problem with sluts. So I ask again, why should I commit to a slut?? People asking you to commit to a slut: _______.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:54 AM
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"Community drive thru pussy"? I'll have to remember that. But seriously, what did she do to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:18 AM
1

Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:07 AM
1

How much time do I have?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:04 AM
1

It was like that fat balding gym teacher in Jr. High who thought he was a bad-ass for using four letter words talking to 12 year-olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:48 PM
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There was mod being a dick for no good reason and I called him out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:43 PM
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It's more than 90%. I said 95% and they said that's too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:37 PM
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Level of self-deception: God-tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:08 PM
1

Fuck off its not hard at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:12 PM
1

This alt is now banned at both married RP AND WHATGMG. I consider that an accomplishment. Maybe I’m maturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:11 PM
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Huh. I didn’t think any mods would see this. you understand I didn’t mean you right? I meant OTHER mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:09 PM
1

Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:07 PM
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Yeah I know. I just don't understand the mindset of people whose worldviews are so fragile. How do they function in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:28 PM
1

Should men lie to get sex? Of course not. Will at least some men lie to get sex? Of course. The difference is not that women are inherently more honest: women can - and do - lie to get what they want. By the time he's 18 an average man will have approximately 12 times more testosterone than a woman. If you're a woman, imagine the time you felt most libidinous in your whole life, and then multiply that by 10.. and then imagine being like that all the time. I'm not trying to make excuses for men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:11 PM
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Not sure if you're trying agree or disagree with what I said, but.. There are probably approximately as many reasons FDSers can't keep a man as there are FDSers. The problem is that instead of saying "You need to work on yourself if you want a mate," it says, "Fuck all men. None of them are good enough." It's a loser philosophy. Whatever else you want to say about TRP - and there's plenty bad you can say - at least they told men 'you need to work on yourself if you want to attract a woman. You'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:42 PM
0

Not All Men Are Like That.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:34 PM
1

Incel rage. I mean, they're right.. but they're still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:27 PM
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Yeah. You're not wrong. The fact they're down-voting you (and will down-vote me) just proves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:25 PM
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Not sure if you're serious or not, but... The type of men who would go around sleeping with as many women as possible is basically all men. Femcels can get laid. They just can't successfully navigate an intimate relationship with a man. Incels hate women because they can't get laid. Femcels hate men because they can't get one to stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:16 PM
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SMH. At least she's aware of the contradiction. That's more than you can say about a lot of people. INCELS: Trying to reconcile hatred of women with intense painful yearning to be with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:12 PM
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They want to attract 'High Value Males'. Getting approached by 'Low Value Males' implies they're not actually 'High Value Females' themselves. Also they like to imagine the LVMs are somehow cock-blocking all the HVMs that would otherwise pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:08 PM
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“I’m not gonna listen to that no more,” Carson told the judge. Fucking genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:25 PM
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I wish you people would shut the fuck up about goddam 'Chad'. It's like you're fucking obsessed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:21 PM
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Technically many Femcels could get sex. Just can't get a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:18 PM
1

Austin? No. Our public transportation sucks ass. It literally takes two hours to get anywhere on a bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:13 PM
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Is joke. Ppl acting esp idiotic b/c it's 'purge week'. Whatever the fuck that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:11 PM
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Do not say, “Why were the former days better than these?” For you do not inquire wisely concerning this. Eccles 7:10
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:07 PM
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Had to upvote. LOL'd. Is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 05:01 PM
2

If you're a guy, you were technically pre-banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:57 PM
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Yeah, I guess. So much self-deception. They must moderate the fuck out of that sub, to keep it from burning down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:28 PM
1

Made 32k @ 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:25 PM
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Yeah I guess. But I mean they could call themselves r/wgtow. Oh shit there's already a sub for that. Fine. r/foreveraloneandhatemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:17 PM
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I hear you. And I (1) don't believe any individual is responsible for the acts or omissions of their gender, and (2) understand that it sometimes sucks to be a women. But. I have a child. And if you asked me whether I'd rather have a boy child or a girl child, I'd choose girl 100 out of 100 times. Girls have it way better than boys, at this particular moment in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:47 AM
1

I think you've got me on that one. If you were cynical (not like me) you might say old men send young men out to die to reduce the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:04 AM
1

Which career?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:12 AM
2

I'm not even sure "happiness" is a good goal. Is true. Happiness is the only thing worth having, but if you pursue it, it will flee from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:12 AM
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In fact in polygamous societies, there is what is colloquially known as the problem of "too many men" The problem of too many men exists in every society. That's what war is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:10 AM
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I hear what you're saying, but at a biological/evolutionary level, it just isn't true. Women are the bottleneck, not men. We just try the best we can to be whatever you want us to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:07 AM
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Men mold ourselves to that which women select. If women select for content of character rather than power, we’ll become men of superior character. We are not that because that’s not what women select. Instead, we lust for and seek power because that is what women select for. This is sadly true. Wanna know why men hold most positions of power? It's because women fuck powerful men. If you all fucked as for doing cartwheels, we'd all be doing cartwheels wherever we went.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:04 AM
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So how old are you now? And did you ever get close to finding a marriageable guy? "Women, please make sure you get a job. A man is not a plan." I mean, no shit. Does anyone seriously think this anymore? " Imagine the shock for me when I saw all those women in r/deadbedrooms, sobbing because their husbands won't even fuck them anymore. Can you imagine?" Yes. That there are women there was surprising, but somehow reassuring to me. (Does that make me bad?) Having said that, I have to believe the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:53 PM
1

Feminism is a very old and diverse movement There are approximately as many kinds of feminism as there are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:30 PM
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Fuck you! I've never been that fat. I've never made 300k. I've never been 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:29 PM
3

Just because no FDS user had murdered someone. You don't know that. Sub has 70k members. Chance alone says one or more has killed someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:21 PM
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r/rapekink Jesus Christ. 106k members. Just when I think reddit can't get weirder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:51 PM
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Must agree. But - and this is a serious question - why do they insist on pretending they're a dating strategy sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:47 PM
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Stop watching hardcore porn. That stuff will rot your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:43 PM
1

Comment is surprisingly factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:39 PM
3

Nah. Nobody touches incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:38 PM
1

You said liberals and Democrats are NOT leftists. I'm looking for an example of somebody who IS. I like to think Bernie's a leftist. Feminism? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:34 PM
0

I feel victimized by imagination. Do I qualify for an invitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:20 PM
1

What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:07 PM
1

No of course it wasn't rape, unless you consider mind-fucking rape. But you're male. You don't get to have a pity party. You fucked up, and you need to try to learn something: Never ever beg for sex. It's only a good look on a woman. Never say 'I can't cheat on you'. You might as well put your balls in a jar. Never ask a woman for money or pity. She won't fuck a man she doesn't respect. I hope you're in a better place now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:52 AM
1

Yes, yes. Men are miserable. Women are awesome. Sex is disgusting. But why call it Female Dating Strategies when y'all aren't dating anyone and there's no strategies being discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:11 AM
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Lmaaaaooo imagine thinking “treating men better” attracts high value men. It's an incel sub for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:02 AM
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It's never fucking ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:43 AM
1

Who are these leftists you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:13 AM
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Sums up the "everybody is invited to the oppression Olympics party except white males" meme. You can't have oppressed without oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:05 AM
2

Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:14 PM
13

I've done it like a million times. 0 problems. Maybe there's grown men disgusted by menstrual blood. I don't know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:08 PM
0

I don't get how they're so oblivious. How do they not see that FDS isn't a 'strategy'? I mean, femcels giving dating advice... it is really like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:14 PM
4

How do you get both 'mommy' and 'daddy' in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:41 AM
11

Your analogy sucks: "If you don't like random strangers doing it to you, you shouldn't like doing it in bed."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:14 AM
4

Yeah that's what I thought until a woman called me 'daddy' in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:02 AM
5

Fake. Nobody smiles in NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:17 AM
1

Can't speak for OP, but... I thought the point of the drawing was pretty clear. What did you think it meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:10 AM
13

I like how Dominos and Netflix is a high bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:46 AM
9

Lol. Is sad, but OLD is a race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:44 AM
7

Ok. I laughed. I did NOT see that coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:39 AM
1

To me the comic is saying just because a woman likes something in a sexual context (for example, with a committed partner) doesn't mean she likes it in real life. What is it saying to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:36 AM
0

Ok. And if it's not damaging?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:30 AM
0

If it's you, then you get to choose. My point is if it's not you, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:07 AM
1

We seem to be interpreting the drawing differently. I don't see anyone in pain, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:02 AM
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There's a difference between "restriction of airflow can create intense pleasurable feelings and I want you to feel good" and "I want to see you in pain suffering and crying while I crush your windpipe" Women like the one in the comic are absolutely mentally ill I'm no doctor, but AFAIK if you crush someone's windpipe, they die. Either way, the woman in the comic isn't being choked and she doesn't seem to be suffering. I'm not sure where you got that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:42 PM
1

Let's start with this: Edwards et al (2014) asked their 86 male participants to fill out part of the "attraction to sexual aggression" scale (Malamuth, 1989). On this scale, participants are asked to indicate, from 1 to 5, how likely they would be to engage in a variety of behaviors, with a "1" corresponding to "not likely at all," while "5" corresponds to "very likely." So if you responded as negatively as possible (1) you're saying you might do it. Does that not seem a little fucked up to you?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:20 PM
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I understand you guys think you're never going to having sex, so you have nothing to lose. But consider this: what if the chances are greater than 0%? If there's a chance, why fuck it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:51 PM
1

What do you mean? That it's up to the people involved to decide "what's kinky enough" vs. "too kinky"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:47 PM
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Yeah, I guess I feel like I've gone about as deep into the weeds as I want to go... but I hope you realize it's not really up to you... unless you're one of the ones doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:37 PM
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It's a very fine line difficult to define with many grey areas Tell me about it. Of course it's difficult. Of course it's tricky. But if putting your hand on her neck is what you need to do to make her cum, it's what you need to do. And your idea that I should tell her she's mentally ill because she had the courage to tell me what she wants - just tells me you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:21 PM
3

Ok, same question: What is abuse? Is pulling a girl's hair abuse? What about calling her your slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:45 PM
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What is your definition of "abuse"? Is spanking abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:42 PM
2

Do you think nobody clicks links? Because your link is to the abstract of a 40 year-old study that has been has been debunked, and doesn't even say what you say it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:37 PM
2

The cost of failure is much higher for men than for women. That's why we will literally run face-first into enemy fire, rather than be considered cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:22 PM
-1

Wrong how?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:12 PM
3

Ok to be a bottom, but not a top? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:02 PM
1

Who the fuck doesn't have repressed trauma? Boring AF assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:56 PM
1

Goddamit. You're making me rethink my "people who pay for reddit awards are idiots" stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:54 PM
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Your sexual interest is what your sexual interest is. Shaming may silence people, but it won't change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:52 PM
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You incels need to stay the fuck out of this thread. NEVER make a woman feel bad about her kink. You're fucking all men over when you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:50 PM
1

Ah. Thank you. If my issues were a little worse, might be one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:46 PM
1

You're not totally wrong, but: you can't blame women for not wanting to be with poor/ ugly men. It's like blaming water for being wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:08 PM
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Yes? Exactly. Do you honestly think that the man who thought of this song was happy? Yes? XDHow about the men who actually agree with simmilar nonsense of "happy wife happy life" Totally different. They're talking about placating and appeasing their women. You might get a weekend's peace out of it, but generally is terrible strategy, that will make her hate you more over time. Ill tell you what men look for in marriage.Fulfilled sexual and emotional needs. Of course. How many men do you think ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:01 PM
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Sorry, but so wrong... What men vs women want out of a marriage is different. Anyway if there's a song about it, I'm right: ​ If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Never make a pretty woman your wife So for my personal point of view Get an ugly girl to marry you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:33 PM
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Lol: It’s why we’re obsessed with finding nice, virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:24 PM
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First of all, please understand FDS was likely born out of traumatized women. QFT. But still think FDS won't date ugly because ugly. The rest is rationalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:21 PM
1

WTF is a mentalcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:09 PM
1

That's valid. But Feminism is just as bad, and is why Trump carried non-college-educated white women by 27 points in 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:50 PM
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Yeah. I mean you kind of have to upvote this. I'm surprised more people don't talk about it. When I think about how fucked up I'd be... I'm glad I was born well before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:42 PM
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what percentage of men are losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:38 PM
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No. The word makes my ears bleed. Supposed to be a joke. Obv. wasn't good one or wouldn't have to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:59 PM
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Generally speaking: men will settle, and be happy. Women won't. And if they do, they're not happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:57 PM
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Women: "My standards aren't high. It's just that 99% of men are losers."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:54 PM
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Intersectionality is heart of contemporary identity politics. Dude is not woke if he don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:23 AM
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Wait, wut? Intersectionality, you shit-head.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:04 AM
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Literally everyone knows this, except the women who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:53 PM
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LOL. ok, that was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:44 PM
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Passive dating is not an option if you're a man: if you don't go out and look, nobody's coming looking for you. So maybe it is a male/female thing: men think you have to go look to find the thing you want. Women (I guess?) think just sit and reject the losers until the one they want to come to them. Still seems like a shitty strategy to me, though. Even if you're a woman: you're more likely to find what you want if you go looking for it than if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:52 PM
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We're still talking past each other. If you've got a filter, and you're looking for gold, you still got to filter as much crap as possible in order to maximize your chances of finding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:09 PM
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You assume fewer options = better options. Why? Isn't it more likely you'll find what you want if there are more options, rather than fewer?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:59 PM
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I don't know. Not suggesting there's logic to it. Like a most implicit cultural constructions... it just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:44 PM
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Trying to fit my head around fewer options are better than more. Can't do it. Is it a male/female thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:33 PM
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No. Just sign up, add a few photos and name your price. Easier, more lucrative and less degrading than onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:22 PM
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FDS: The more you level up, the fewer options you have. Which is good, because... wait, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:11 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:09 PM
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Men = never pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:05 PM
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Got banned from xx for same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:43 PM
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Pretty sure is a troll post, but ok: Your clickbait articles don't say what you think they say, u/TheOGJammies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:54 PM
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What's the manipulation? Men like pretty young women. Pretty young women like financial security. Leo pays directly. At first you said he's gross, now you're fine with it. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:49 AM
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No I needed them to tell men basically no men are wholesome and they all lie for sex. Ok, but how is that a dating strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:03 AM
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Ok, so... why do you need FDS to tell you the same thing as your cult?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:43 AM
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You need FDS to tell you no sex before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:51 AM
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Oh honey this is what you don't get about this group. We don't need men to like us. That is exactly what I get about the group. You're incels who hate men. I get it. What I don't get is why think that's a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:37 AM
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I tried again to find anything of value there. I couldn't do it. Even if it was limited to helping women with too many options filter out the bad ones... how do they do it? Pick the one who acts like the biggest simp and spends the most money on you? Even is that is your problem, u/martinique2194, is that really the criteria you use? Because there are way better solutions for women who really have that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:28 AM
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Sorry - I don't know you. I've only been hanging around this sub for a few days. Men are not more Machiavellian than women. We just have different incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:42 PM
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Yes I am a voracious consumer of media so I am surprised it took me that long lol. But i think maybe bc the way I think was so formed around values that I just thought most people were wholesome people who made mistakes or had mistaken beliefs about how they were acting vs. straight up machiavellian. I think a lot of people are willing to lie to get what they want. Fuck, a lot of people lie for no reason at all. (At least 50% of everything people say online is BS.) It doesn't make men Machiavell…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:18 PM
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Granted I was sheltered in a fundamentalist cult growing up. But I was exposed to regular media and I still didn't know men lie for sex until I was 34. I'm sorry about that. If you didn't know that by your 30s that would be a painful, I'm thinking. Seriously, though, I thought every female was told that no later than age 12. Certainly every girl I ever dated seemed to know it. (And it's not like I was some TPRer back in the day - when it didn't exist - I was BP as hell.) If my daughter doesn't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:50 PM
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Yes. That post is shit. I concede it. But then there's this: I Have Been Doing Cold Approach For 2 Years Now . Guy changes how he looks, how he dresses, how he talks, and spends two years doing it while - he says - doing thousands of cold approaches and getting rejected over and over again. And after two years of effort, he's finally figured out how to get women to like him - despite the random disadvantages he happened to get from birth. The post currently has 739 up-votes. Where is the FDS equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:35 PM
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For the record though, even if an obese person is not your "taste," they still don't deserve to be made fun of. No, of course not. What's obnoxious is doing nothing to improve yourself, and then saying if men aren't attracted to you it means there's something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:08 PM
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For example, a LVM thinks some women aren't worthy of men's respect simply because she don't look like the meth-skinny pickmeisha white girls in his porn. TRP: Life's not fair; attraction is not negotiable, and if you want women to want you, you're going to need to put in some work. FDS: We're already queens, anyone who doesn't think so is an LVM, and all we have to do is keep saying "no" until... uh... well... hmmmm. Oh yeah! All men are pigs!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:01 PM
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Some 40 year old men would rather be married with kids. Others would rather be playing the field. Either way, TRP has strategy for them - whether it's to get more women, or keep the one you have. Yes, there's plenty of assholes on TRP; but that doesn't change the fact that FDS offers literally nothing to the women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:56 PM
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Getting to "yes" is a strategy. Saying "no" is just a way to get to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:49 PM
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I mean, the average TRP poster is exactly the same too. No. Either you haven't read it, or you're lying. Give me 60 seconds and I could pull a post - even now - that you would never see on FDS in a million years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:45 PM
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You are wise, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:35 PM
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I suppose. It still sounds like WGTOW to me, though. TRP may be full of dickheads, but at least it doesn't tell guys they're already kings, and all they've got to do is sit around and wait. It tells them if they want to be attractive to women, they have to man up, and they've got a fuck-load of hard work to do. You don't get to be attractive to women just because you exist. There's no real comparison, and it's sad that (apparently) some women think there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:33 PM
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If it was Women Going Their Own Way I'd be fine with that. I mean, if you're an obese older woman in the dating market, your chances are poor. And from a female POV men are pigs. Our biological imperative is 'fuck as many pretty women as possible'. That's about it. You don't need any special info to understand it. And it's no big secret. Women have known it from the beginning of time, and we (men) know it about ourselves. My beef with FDS is they're pretending to have a strategy for dating. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:21 PM
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There's nothing wrong with the way you look. You look fine. I'm curious though what you would use FDS for... what do they say there besides "We're queens" & "Men are scrotes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:04 PM
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I've only been coming here a few days... but so far the honesty here has been refreshing. Maybe because the mods are on vacation or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:47 PM
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FDS doesn't represent women at large. They're a bunch of bitter exes and foreveralones who circlejerk about how they're all queens and men are trash. Notice how they have long lists of rules and requirements for men but they never talk about what they would bring to a relationship, that should tell you enough. Yeah I was gonna post something but that about sums it up. That, plus FDS is about 'strategic' as blind monkeys playing Twister. They literally don't know what they want, and have no plan …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:15 AM
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Women talk first... Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? There would be no people if this was an actual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:31 AM
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Some consider the Dark Enlightenment part of the alt-right, its theoretical branch.[1][8] The Dark Enlightenment has been labelled neo-fascistand "an acceleration of capitalism to a fascist point" I mean, hate TRP if you want, but... that's not it. Is "Black Pill Feminism" an actual thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:06 AM
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Thank you all for your support and lending a listening ear. I think my ear just got raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:58 AM
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Dogs > cats Duh. I mean WTF is wrong with some people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:44 AM
1

Jesus.. How'd that seal get so hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:24 AM
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Obviously not. Otherwise nobody'd be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:14 AM
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Dunno man. Don't know you. But I offer shit besides looks. (Just happened to get lucky there.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:12 AM
1

You fucked up the initials on the shirt, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:10 AM
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No... He wants to spend TIME with you. FDS should be retitled FINCEL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:07 AM
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I have a feeling you do a lot of things really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:53 PM
2

Yeah. It's sad, but black women and Asian men are at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:46 PM
1

Identity politics has virtually taken over - in the US, at least. Unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:36 PM
1

"Explicitly neoreactionary"? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:34 PM
2

being principled isnt necessarily masculine No. But being principled is extremely masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:30 PM
2

I think if you can't make it through a sentence without using the word 'cuck,' you're a faggot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:27 PM
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You people are so fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:25 PM
1

Incels are super left wing. They're basically sexual communists Lol. QFT.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:23 PM
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Just because you fight the power doesn't mean you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:22 PM
2

You know who is masculine as fuck? Bernie Sanders. Yeah. That's why so many of us supported him. It's hard to be liberal and masculine. It takes a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:18 PM
1

You don't know there are things to offer besides just how you look?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:09 PM
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Well of course. But still. They're not the same. PUA is just kids playing at a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:44 PM
1

"RARITY" Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:33 PM
2

Have you tried getting a billion dollars? Lol. Yeah I think your SMV goes up about one billion percent. Bill Gates may be the dorkiest guy who ever lived. You think there's many women who wouldn't date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:29 PM
2

If you're a fit guy with nothing else to offer, maybe you have some more work to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:23 PM
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Wrong. Case in point - hot women who become ugly incessantly complaining about becoming “invisible” which is hamster for “guys are no longer bending over backwards trying to fuck me by being excessively nice” If you are seriously going to argue that ugly women have it harder to find physical intimacy than men ... well ... You are SO missing her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:19 PM
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Single ugly women can get dates and laid at will. Single ugly men are assumed to be rapists for making eye contact. This is not news to anyone. You still have options if you're WILLING TO COMMIT to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:17 PM
2

Or... the capacity to love someone who isn't pretty?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:14 PM
1

Again, you forced me. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:13 PM
1

"Get" them for what? A ONS? Because no-shit Sherlock, of course it's going to work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:07 PM
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In fact you should be happy for them if you're a good friend. If there's an ugly dude with a pretty girl, or an ugly woman with a handsome guy, then yeah it is a bit confusing. It's really not. because. there. are. other. things. besides. looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:04 PM
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an ugly man refusing to date an ugly girl because he's afraid people will judge him for it is being stupid. they already see that's he;s ugly. he might as well stop giving a shit about what people think and just settle with a nice ugly girl he connects with on a level.and have tons of freaky sex with the lights off I'm ashamed of upvoting someone whose username is u/Put_Effort_Into_Life but you've forced me into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:02 PM
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So to them, being seen with a Stacy will solve all their problems because they will be given status, while being seen with an ugly woman will make them worse because they will somehow be judged for it. Which is false. Can confirm. Being a (formerly) good-looking guy married to an average-looking wife, it doesn't hurt at all. Guys who think it does need to get over themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:54 PM
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You're both right. There's no reason to sympathize with men (or women) who won't put in the effort. On the other hand, no matter how much effort they put into it, there will always be a bottom 20% of men. And fuck it - a bottom 20% of women. If they won't have each other... they're probably going to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:45 PM
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Nah. Look around dude. At least half the guys you see will be better-looking than their mates. And way more than half will make more money. Women may settle when it comes to looks. But not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:29 PM
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I think the incels are raging because they cant get with their looks match or anyone for that matter. Theyre presumably raging because they are aware they are looking genetic death in the face, but might not have a decade ago regarding our changing society and women being able to flock to higher status men using computer technology. It is like if half of all women were suddenly given a hysterectomy, a lot would absolutely freak out over such a widespread tragedy. Why not rage against the weather…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:25 PM
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Dude. That's PUA, not TRP. You gotta keep this shit straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:17 PM
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I think I know what you mean, but... Technically, it is 100% Red Pill: "You want someone to love you, but you're not willing to put in any effort? Fuck off." That is Red Pill exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:14 PM
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You will never, in a million years, receive enough credit for this. I mean, I truly feel bad for someone who can't find someone to love them. I truly do. But you want to tell me somebody else is not cute enough to love? And then expect a pity party? Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:10 PM
2

Sounds like you’re putting sex coins in and expecting a relationship to fall out. Dude. WTF are you doing? I'll take all the sex coins I can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:17 PM
1

Q2] There is no mainstream shaming and disdain on the level that society has for niceguys. What's your thought on why that is? I mean it's pretty simple, isn't it? If there's a guy and a girl and feelings get hurt, the guy's a dick. Right? Or a pussy, if it's his feelings that get hurt. That's just how it is. [Q3] Why don't they feel bad for the guy? He's just trying to find love the way society says you should. Be friends first and get to know each other Because women want men to simp so they'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:12 PM
5

Thanks. I mean, this is why Where-have-all-the-good-men-gone is such a blindingly oblivious thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:21 PM
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Yeah, this is obvious, isn't it? I mean, the punishment for being unrealistic is being alone. Amiright?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:14 PM
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There's legal ramifications regardless. Whether you're married or not, whatever property there is has to be divided, and custody of the kids has to be decided. Any couple who have made a life together, commingled assets, purchased a house, paid a mortgage together or had children have plenty to fight over whether there's a marriage certificate or not. I've been married for more years than I want to admit and no one - not once - ever asked to see our marriage license. The fact that there is one -…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:13 AM
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But women aren’t always dating simps. You realize attractive men fall in love with attractive women and court her right? This is why rich successful men who could have their pick of the litter still get into monogamous relationships with one single woman and treat her so well it would put ugly simps to shame. Yes. But it's not the courting that turns her on. It's the rich & successful part. Just to be 100% clear: obviously women like it when people are nice to them - duh, everybody does. But bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:48 PM
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Yes. But. It's not conscious manipulation. It's just hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:05 PM
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OK. But what if anything does that have to do with slut-shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:28 PM
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I 100% agree with 90% of what you're saying. This part is 100% wrong, though: Ultimately in the dating phase, women are genuinely wet for men because men go above and beyond for them and want to. This is pure blue pill fantasy. If there was any truth in it at all, simps and nice guys would be getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:13 PM
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Men are worse than women. That's why marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:44 PM
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Men are as loyal as their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:41 PM
0

Do you know the only food proven to diminish a woman's sex drive? Yes. It's wedding cake. So yes. Hot husbands become betas to their wives once they marry. That's why r/marriedredpill exists, not to mention r/DeadBedrooms. Also why TRP discourages marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:35 PM
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I don't think women are ashamed of it, at least not directly. The problem is cognitive dissonance. They want to marry up, but they don't want a partner who "settled".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:27 PM
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It's not a concept; it's an instinct. When you see something beautiful you stop and you appreciate it for a moment. You can't help it. I don't know how it is for women, but for most us (men) you can't not notice any more than you could not notice cool breeze on a hot day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:02 PM
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I don't understand all the slut-shaming on this sub. I mean I understand why FDS does it, it's obvious. I understand why older, marriage-minded men might do it. I mean, who wants to be the beta she settled for? But that can't be everybody on here. Help me understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:53 PM
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Lol. 1st time I actually wanted to give somebody an award.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:11 AM
2

Who the fuck ever said younger women aren't hotter?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:10 AM
1

Sometimes the Ancients had it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:04 AM
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x
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:04 AM
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Sometimes the Ancients had it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:04 AM
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Just when I think Reddit is a complete waste of time... pretty awesome. "It is for this reason that PPD is pointless. RP thinks right and wrong are a matter of opinion, and BP doesn't care what the facts are." Awesomeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:23 PM
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No, they'll pretend to smile. Completely different. Actually, sex workers are some of the most bitter, angry people you'll ever meet. Check out r/SexWorkersOnly if you don't believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:06 PM
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How to get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:48 PM
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Quoted For Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:43 PM
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No. Hookers don't smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:55 PM
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QFT, and thank you. You said it better than I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:54 PM
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What makes you think I can't afford her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:51 PM
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I have been friendzoned. Any guy who sees friendship as a consulation prize DOES NOT DESERVE FRIENDS. I literally cannot understand this. Can someone explain this? I'm being serious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:03 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. I mean, if she'll fuck your brains out, and smile at you in the morning we're pretty much good to go. We have pretty low standards, which most women are still aren't willing to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:51 PM
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No. People are shallow, and mostly only care about you for what you can do for them. There are - or were, at least - a lot of Angry Young Men on TRP. But they're mostly angry because they felt like they've been lied to about the single most important thing in life. To me, I saw it as venting, not necessarily misogyny. But of course, I'm not a woman so it's easy for me to see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:33 PM
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I think this is interesting because it illuminates how differently men and women perceive value in the SM. I mean I think you'd have a hard time finding many men who'd say - unprompted - that they give a shit about most of the things on your list. And the thing they (we) do care about most - sex - is the inverse of what you mean: we generally prefer less experience over a woman who's been with lots of other guys. Men and women have very different priorities in what they're looking for in a partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:44 PM
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That's because the only difference between him now and him then is money... that, and her looks have faded. not trying to be salty here. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:45 PM
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There's no such thing as a female beta. And if there were, we (men) would prefer them over alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:31 PM
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If there's one thing men and women can agree on, it's that both want to be in a relationship where she sees him as a HVM. You're both lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:24 PM
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It seems like always buried in a feminist rant is the implicit assumption that women aren't responsible for their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:17 PM
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u/0seagirl what does 'radical feminist' mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:06 PM
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Except they aren't looking for a 'beta to settle with'. And if they are, you sure as fuck don't want to be that beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:56 PM
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The whole points shit has to be the saddest thing I have ever seen. We aren't on a team, broski. QFT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:49 PM
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Yes exactly. And as a man, you don't want to marry the 30-something woman who's still bitter that her fling with DiCaprio didn't work out. It's pure TRP: Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:41 PM
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Because it amounts to bitching about men while waiting for a mythical HVM to fall into your lap. It'll never happen. FDS women are setting themselves up to fail. And they're bitter about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:20 PM
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Yeah. I was asking if there was anything besides that. Because, 'don't date scrotes' is not a strategy. Whatever else you want to say about TRP, there was more there than just 'don't date bitches'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:09 PM
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Sounds like a RP guy who's whipped. That's not even a unicorn; it's an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:47 PM
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Hello u/siberiansummer. Is there a single FDS anything related to finding, dating or marrying men - other than 'don't date scrotes'?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:43 PM
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I have to say that's pretty accurate, I think. As far as I can tell, FDS is trying to be TRP for women, but without any actual dating advice. After reading FDS for a while I stopped feeling insulted and just started feeling sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I wanted to say this. Maybe a difference between men/women, but if I'm sad there's nothing like some physical intimacy to cheer me up. OTOH, if I'm consoling a woman even I know better than suggesting sexy-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:21 PM
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If you've been sexually abused as a child it's going to affect you. IME sexual abuse is way more common than people think, partly because victims rarely talk about it. They don't talk about it because - among other reasons - people (including prospective romantic partners) are likely to see them as 'damaged'. That's sad and counter-productive. The victim's done nothing wrong, and doesn't deserve to be punished. Having said that, sexual abuse does likely affect how you see the world, in terms of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:10 PM
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Women love that shit. If you're otherwise confident and independent - and she's not a conniving cunt - she'll like you and respect you more for having the courage to be vulnerable. In real life, this is the kind of shit that real relationships are made of: you have to share the good, and the bad. You did the right thing, not the wrong thing. And so don't beat yourself up.
/r/askTRP16/03/20 05:19 AM
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I was thinking about this last night, and the analogy that occurred to me was: gravity. We live in a world where we're supposed to ignore it. RP recognizes it, and aptly uses it to explain any number of phenomena. Why do things fall? Gravity. But there are other forces at play in the world besides gravity. Light. Sound. Electricity. Yes, RP provides important insights. But it isn't the cure-all for every problem. It doesn't explain every situation. This isn't what I supposed or hoped the thread …
/r/MarriedRedPill05/03/17 03:12 PM
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I've made arrangements with four women so far. Each was $200 per playtime. 2 were gorgeous, one average, one... well let's just say I won't be seeing her again. The website lets you see pictures, text back and forth, etc. I've only had one meeting that didn't lead to sex. She wasn't that attractive, and we didn't agree on price. Two of the arrangements are ongoing. One is with a gorgeous redhead who is a ball of fun and up for just about anything, sexually. If I could depend on seeing her whenev…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/03/17 01:20 PM
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AMA. Yes, if I was a heterosexual woman I'd fuck me. You assume I'm a slob, but your assumption is wrong. The thing is, i'm not IN the dating market because I'm married. Which is why I posted in the married section of the website. If I wasn't married, I wouldn't be doing SA. I prefer she's not doing it just for the money. But of course, money is one reason why she's doing it. Everything in life involves trade-offs. The story with my wife is long, and I've posted about it before. Suffice it to sa…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/03/17 01:05 PM
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Yeah, I could have said it nicer. But it takes two seconds to google it.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/03/17 12:59 PM
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Well I said AMA, so the short answer is I'm platonically married, in my forties, and finding a mistress would be both time consuming - which is time I don't have - and of uncertain results. I make good money, but work a lot of hours. I've had pretty good luck on SA, frankly, and if I value my time, this is cheaper. If I wasn't married, I'd do something else. But I am.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/03/17 01:56 AM
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I'm a liberal Democrat, and still like RP. I admit, I've been questioning the recent incarnation of "progressive", politics, but it's because it's become so consumed with identity politics and tribalism; not because of Red Pill. Identity politics drives me insane. You have to bend your mind into a pretzel, or give on thinking altogether, to embrace it.
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 03:32 AM
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Think of it like this: the cognitive part of our brains evolved a second and a half ago, in evolutionary terms. In the eons before that, we were social animals. In the time before writing, we relied on the limbic brain, the "seat of the value judgments that we make, often unconsciously, that exert such a strong influence on our behavior." In a small social group - in any social group, for that matter - you have three classes: the leader, the lieutenants, and the schmucks. When the mammoth gets s…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 10:56 PM
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This is a very important FR, so if the auto mod removes I'll repost. One addition/correction: saying stupid shit if a lawyer's present is not any better than saying stupid shit without one. The purpose of the lawyer is to tell you to shut the fuck up.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 01:53 PM
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This sounds like a reasonable strategy if you're a psychopath. Fortunately, only a small percentage of the population are psychopaths. The rest of us have characteristics like empathy, the ability to trust other people, and - sometimes - even to love. Which - if you're a psychopath - is a good thing. How could a psychopath make his way in the world without victims to exploit and abuse?
/r/TheRedPill08/12/15 02:23 PM
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Much wisdom is much sadness. --Ecclesiastes.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 07:14 PM
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I agree. My impression is a lot of folks here are in their teens and twenties. I understand why they think so, but really, life is NOT all about bitches and money. Sorry.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 08:29 PM
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That's true when there's real social implications of telling the truth. Your analogy to the four way stop is a good one: it's not worth it to crash your car to prove you're "right". When there's not - or when you don't care - telling the truth can be fun. Bill Burr makes a good living doing it. On anonymous message boards - like this one - it can be fun, too; if you have the right disposition. You have nothing to lose if anonymous strangers hate you, and you might find some people come out of th…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 02:55 PM
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Awesome post. Anytime anybody wastes his time bragging about himself on the internet he is losing at life.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 11:20 PM
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There's nothing I can do for the OP, but for anyone else a few things: 1.) A woman can call the police at anytime and say you assaulted her. If she does, you will most likely go to jail. This is just a fact. Sorry. 2.) If there's a protective order, that means stay the fuck away from her. It doesn't matter how many times she calls, texts, or comes over. The protective order applies to you, not to her. She does not have authority to change it - only the judge does. If she calls or texts or leaves…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 12:01 AM
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I believe, along with Athol Kay, that most women are naturally sexually submissive in bed. Which is fine with me: I'm naturally dominant when it comes to sex. But how does that work, when you're with someone who may be naturally submissive, but whose sexuality is compromised by childhood abuse? To put the question better, how to get from here to there, without tripping subconscious triggers? In response to other comments: she's been to therapy - that was a long time ago - and stopped going becau…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/15 01:14 PM
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You're right. Recently I've failed to be a quality leader. I need to bank some money, and I need to develop a five-year plan. Those are the things I'm working on.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/15 01:09 PM
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No it's not like that. I've been getting two non-verbal messages from her: 1.) she's not that into me, sexually, and 2.) she's not that into sex. She's said otherwise, but: "it's what they do, not what they say." Anyway, several months ago, for what I thought were some pretty good reasons, I told her I wasn't going to be initiating anymore, because I needed to hear from her what was going on. She hasn't said "boo" since then. She failed the test, in my mind, and there's several possibilities. On…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/11/15 01:04 PM
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Right now: sex. As in there isn't any. Previously, lots of blow-ups and manipulation. I put a stop to that with IDGAF and simply refusing to argue with her, even before coming here: in other words, I was already at that point. That by itself did wonders. I've been working at Alpha and frame control, and improving my mental and physical health since coming here.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/15 09:46 PM
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Yeah, no shit. Where were you twenty years ago?
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/15 09:37 PM
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I agree. I've started working on myself since - the first time ever, since stumbling onto TRP. I was the bluest of blue pill, once upon a time. I was never a priority in my own life. But I try not to blame myself for the mistakes of my past. I didn't know what I didn't know, and had nobody to tell me.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/15 08:03 PM
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Quick story: So I'm talking to my neighbor and his 10ish year old son is there. There was a thunderstorm that came through Friday (yesterday) and the boy tells me about how the teachers had them in the gym squatting with their hands on there heads under desks. I told him that was stupid. (I drove through the same storm Friday morning to get to work.) He said yes. And it was boring. I told him it sounds like his school is run by girls. He grinned and said yes.
/r/TheRedPill31/10/15 04:42 PM
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That's more or less what I was thinking. She's made a conscious choice not to deal with it for - well, a long time. I'm thinking this is her problem, not mine.
/r/MarriedRedPill31/10/15 03:26 PM
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Thank you for making this comment. Too often people throw around the words "alpha" and "beta" as if alpha = winner, and beta = loser. Perhaps there's some truth in that, in today's society, where being "good" is like asking everyone to treat you as a doormat. But the problem is not with being "good," it's with all those people out there who treat good men like garbage. I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge you have to be willing to draw lines, and that you must look out for your own interests - b…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 12:06 PM
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You have to know your enemy if you engage with feminists. They have tons of stats, but most of them are bullshit. Real stats are out there, but you have to do your homework. The main thing to remember is that feminism is about feelings, not about facts.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 11:42 PM
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The people on top have always indulged in what they forbid for everyone else. It's not new, and has nothing to do with liberalism.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 11:36 PM
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First of all, congratulations on your discovery. Second, please don't leave the house. Move to another bedroom. Talk to as many divorce attorneys as you can. You don't have to settle for every-other-weekend, unless you want to.
/r/MarriedRedPill04/10/15 01:11 AM
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25 years ago I met a girl who was an emotional and psychological mess. She thought she was dying of AIDS, had two prior boyfriends who'd physically and emotionally abused her, came from a broken home, and had been molested. I was drawn to her irresistibly. My white knight instincts were insatiable, and she allowed me to fulfill them. Fast forward ten or so years. We were married, the sex had stopped. She would not clean up after herself, and despite the years I'd put into "fixing" her, the shit …
/r/MarriedRedPill04/10/15 01:01 AM
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The CDC conducted a National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey in 2010. http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf Buried in the findings were some interesting statistics. For example, on page 44, they found that in the last 12 months, 3.6% of women had been slapped, pushed or shoved by an intimate partner. The corresponding figure for male victims was 4.5%. They also reported that 0.6% of women reported being raped by an intimate partner. The corresponding number…
/r/MensRights21/08/15 11:34 PM
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Feminism depends on the assumption that men are bad.
/r/MensRights21/08/15 11:03 PM
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I have bad news for you: the criminal justice system is just as flawed. Protective orders are routinely made in conjunction with allegations of domestic violence - and they go into effect immediately. In other words, whether or not the underlying complaint is ultimately dismissed, or whether or not the defendant is eventually acquitted. When cities like mine went to mandatory arrest policies (pushed by feminists/domestic violence advocates who were - and are - convinced that domestic violence is…
/r/MensRights21/08/15 10:56 PM
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Here is the definition of the "Duluth Model": A community using the Duluth Model approach: Has taken the blame off the victim and placed the accountability for abuse on the offender. Has shared policies and procedures for holding offenders accountable and keeping victims safe across all agencies in the criminal and civil justice systems from 911 to the courts. Prioritizes the voices and experiences of women who experience battering in the creation of those policies and procedures. Believes that …
/r/MensRights21/08/15 01:59 PM
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Feminism is the enemy. Feminism is the enemy because although one of the first things you'll hear from a feminist is that it's about "equality," it's not about equality. Feminism is about whatever is best for women. It's about choices for women, but against accountability. Feminism is about false history. It's about creating and maintaining a sense of victimhood, which in today's culture, is a source of power. It's about retaining what they like about traditional gender roles, while rejecting wh…
/r/askTRP21/08/15 12:57 PM
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I married 22 years ago, when I was 22. It was a classic White Knight/BPD relationship. She was deeply troubled, and I cherished playing the savior role. As time wore on, I realized it was a one-way relationship. It became less and less about appreciating me for solving her problems, and more about blaming me for failing. There was all kinds of manipulation, which I won't go into. The sex was great, before the marriage. Afterwards, not so much. She started playing the "you have to be good to get …
/r/askTRP17/08/15 01:41 AM
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