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They respond to the opportunity to express themselves creatively with an "I don't know"
/r/MGTOW229/09/18 11:14 AM
1

"Alone" is so misleading. I feel like the deeper someone gets into their relationship, the more distant they become from their friends, coworkers & family. People in relationships seem to loneliest to me, although singles do experience a lonely phase when their friends start getting married.
/r/MGTOW218/09/18 11:46 AM
1

We were 15, she went to an all girls school & she displayed physical symptoms of virginity being broken. Pretty confident she was a virgin, but hey, maybe I'm wrong 😂
/r/TheRedPill15/09/18 03:49 PM
1

She's already getting fat, so I think you're dead right.
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 03:47 PM
6

Just waiting for all the women who think he should've stuck it out, "manned up" and raised the baby
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 06:25 AM
12

I dated a girl who "wanted to be a housewife", but deadset couldn't cook at all. This type of pride in total lack of ability is crazy common.
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 06:19 AM
8

The fact that they needed the money to "find a partner" tells me that they shouldn't be looking to settle down. Enjoy your newfound power, don't be so quick to give it away.
/r/MGTOW15/09/18 06:17 AM
35

If she's ready to go on the first date, then you waiting won't turn her into wife material
/r/TheRedPill15/09/18 05:57 AM
18

You might be right, but I've found these symptoms strongest with the first girl I ever slept with. We were both virgins, might be down to that high school drama/insecurity though?
/r/TheRedPill15/09/18 05:56 AM
1

Withholding sex is a great way to make a bloke hate you.
/r/MGTOW208/09/18 01:57 AM
1

My commute is 1 hour on the bus each way, so a bit of meditation has been easy to fit in. I find a 15-20 minute open eye meditation is really easy to do, and really just requires you to put the phone away & avoid looking at screens. Closed eye meditation requires more work... Does anyone get an inner ear twitch when they're really in the zone?
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 11:52 AM
1

I play rugby & love the feeling of being a bit of a powerhouse, which motivates me to hit the free weights hard. Saying that, I've found much less motivation for doing cardio or extensive dietary planning...
/r/MGTOW203/09/18 09:31 PM
1

Learn about the world, develop feelings/opinions/passions. Once you build up a network of knowledge & views, conversation will become more of an impulse that you're having to hold back than something you need to focus on building. Also, stop worrying about pleasing others. It's the biggest trait of a loser. Some people will like you, some won't, don't stress it.
/r/MGTOW203/09/18 09:11 AM
1

Ehhh nah, that's not really what I mean. I'm talking about attacking something and dominating it. For example, one year at rugby, I was benched for the grand final after starting all year. I was pissed, so I chained that premiership medal to my key chain, looked at it every day & let the insecurity drive me. Smashed the gym all off season, and returned to rugby stronger, resulting in me starting in much higher teams. While the achievement is nothing special, the process of turning insecurity int…
/r/MGTOW214/08/18 08:07 AM
1

You don't value yourself because you've never proven yourself. You've never taken on a difficult challenge & done the work to win through it. Find something you'd find hard to do, commit to it, accomplish a goal, then repeat. Your confidence will come, as you prove to yourself that you're more than a pleb floating through life.
/r/MGTOW213/08/18 08:11 PM
1

Hey man, a lot of white dudes talk about preferring Asian chicks for a variety of reasons. Is there a reason why you shoot for white girls: just personal preference, or something more logical?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 09:03 PM
1

Agree, especially considering I hate wasting time & money in shitholes like that.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 08:57 PM
24

Bang on 👌 nothing sadder than trying to hang onto a fading semblance of hair
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 07:03 AM
7

Problem is, knowing this information doesn't save you if you're dating a girl who loves the girls night out. You really can't win, you either let her slut around or you come across as a controlling, abusive fucker telling her what to do.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 10:55 PM
86

Work out, shave your head - not a 100% solution, but better than bald-ING
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 10:52 PM
1

This is an excellent question. I've considered going deep into sperm donation to counter this: as long as you fit the height, intelligence & health requirements. There's something about that primal urge to reproduce that is so difficult to ignore.
/r/TheRedPill08/08/18 09:48 PM
1

Haha wow, that's intense
/r/MGTOW206/08/18 10:07 PM
1

Is enjoying meeting new people an option? No ones going to force you to date these girls.
/r/MGTOW206/08/18 02:59 AM
49

This just kept getting worse, reads like a horror story.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 12:12 PM
2

It's an exchange, both sexes like it this way, but sometimes women try to pull away from their side of the bargain. Good call not letting her walk all over you.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 12:05 PM
2

I can't speak for the sciences, but as someone who studied Economics (which could be seen as quite black & white), there were huge, subjectively graded components.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/18 02:31 PM
21

Grades for essays and other subjective pieces of work could vary wildly though. I remember letting a kid copy my essay early in high-school. He got 13/20 (65%) & I got 19/20 (95%). Different teachers & he was an absolute nuisance in class. Not surprising at all that other forms of bias exist.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/18 12:18 AM
11

Same with sports being adjusted for children
/r/TheRedPill28/07/18 12:13 AM
1

Fun can be a delayed reward for work though. For example, sport is fun, but it relies on grinding & training that isn't fun in the moment.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/18 04:03 AM
2

You'll likely get some pretty good training, but one thing I'll say is that the best sales people I've seen have a way of making their clients feel like they're on the same team. From there, you can generally work out any of the more logistical issues.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 08:40 AM
3

As someone who works in this space, I think you'll be really well received. Your big advantage is that you're likely to know what you're talking about, so just try to speak openly with people & demonstrate your knowledge of the industry & space, rather than just hammering your product. That'll instantly give you some credibility.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 08:18 AM
3

Depends on the kind of sales you're doing. If you're door knocking & cold calling, it can be a bit like that, but it's still a great learning experience. If you're doing more consultative sales with people who are interested in your product & evaluating products in that space, then you're likely not really annoying anyone. The key is providing value. If you're not providing value to someone, you shouldn't be speaking to them.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 08:16 AM
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Totally agree with you. I chose technical sales over grad programs when I finished University. Now 2-3 years removed & I can speak with anyone. Would definitely recommend it as something to do for at least 6 months to any young (or old) person. Oh, and don't forget the $$$. You might end up liking the money & sticking around ;)
/r/TheRedPill14/07/18 08:13 AM
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Indicates that they believe productivity/meaning & fun/happiness are mutually exclusive too. If you're going to be with someone, at least find someone who sees the two as intertwined. Rare as hell though.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 10:59 AM
9

"I've had my fun" is always a big red mark against them
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 03:30 AM
2

You only need to go clubbing to see this in action. Solid blokes cracking onto the chicks that look like toads, some lads will take anything they can get.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 12:33 AM
1

You're exactly right, the key is to be intentional. Think about your choices. If a $10,000 trip provides value - awesome. If you're not into fashion & don't want to spend crazy money on clothes - great. Only spend on that which provides value to you.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 02:32 AM
4

Meh, if you know they've got a partner, this is pretty lame.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 10:36 PM
0

As someone who plays a bunch of sports, is strong, but has a higher BF(%) - I totally agree with you. Having high body fat is like being 5 foot tall, you're NEVER going to be chosen over someone who manages their weight. I've been moving in the right direction recently, but still have a decent way to go. Once you start caving into dumb excuses, you're committing to being a fat c*** for life. On a side note: I automatically have far, far less respect for overweight people.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/18 03:47 AM
12

If you want to seem taller with women, make sure you don't bend over when you're greeting them. Lots of guys duck down for the hug, you should let their face hit your chest.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/18 01:39 PM
1

What is wrong with these people....
/r/TheRedPill23/02/18 11:26 PM
132

I work sales & you're right, my performance has dipped as I've adopted more non-quantifiable responsibilities. Looking up the chain, the top guy really doesn't give a shit about anything other than getting his own sales through. Great advice, I'll start driving this tomorrow.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/18 10:07 AM
1

I stopped viewing socialising as a currency. In my younger days, I thought more time pointlessly hanging out with acquaintances made you cool. Now, I fairly frequently turn down invitations to work on personal projects. Being a man is being true to yourself.
/r/MGTOW220/01/18 01:12 AM
0

I also want to add that I was raised with a strong socioeconomic base, so what I'm saying might not be true for poorer/less educated millennials.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/18 02:38 AM
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Not necessarily. I've had my current job (in Australia, well above average pay) for 8 months & they've flown me to Europe 4 times. Other millennials are travelling cheap so that a smaller income can cover them. Heck, I've got friends who do freelance online work to subsidise full time travel. Sure, there are idiots who borrow loads to travel. But for each one of them, there are others who are intelligently incorporating travel into their lifestyles. You're right about those luxury brands dying.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/18 02:37 AM
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Lots of millennials are actually stepping away from the debt culture. Sure, more are travelling hard in their youth, but millennials are less inclined to borrow money to buy stupid status crap. Pretty sure I read an article where the watch industry is facing a decline because young people aren't stupid enough to spend thousands on a watch for example.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/18 01:01 AM
6

Loser: Controlled by the world, things "happen to them", victim mentality, disempowered. Badass: Loyal to themselves, willing to take a risk, don't automatically follow the crowd, free.
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 11:07 PM
5

Have you ever been to one of these festivals? This is a pretty cunty thing to do
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 10:56 AM
3

It'd be brutal spending so much time around these soulless parasites, but good on him for finding a way to get what he wants.
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 04:06 AM
1

Cool cool cool
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 12:35 AM
1

Dude I got back from one of these festivals yesterday - not offended in the slightest. My point was that people who don't go to these wouldn't understand how common that kind of thing is for both men & women. This chick wasn't doing anything wrong or being an "indecent slut" or anything
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 09:43 PM
10

Meh, bit of a shitty thing to do. Tonnes of people embrace the nudity at these festivals
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 12:10 PM
6

Father catches son with penis inside worn out leather bag
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 08:35 AM
15

We don’t even think about it from a gender perspective and I hope that’s progress. Lies
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 02:50 AM
4

What a disgusting little troll. Poor guy loses tonnes of money to a woman that unattractive? Ouch
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 02:39 AM
12

Respect & Love = Provide Resources
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 02:36 AM
20

I don't mind a female protagonist if they're playing to certain strengths. Eg- Stealth, manipulation, gymnastic agility, rather than the new breed of Rey just being the best at everything without any training. Saying that, female leads in any sort of combat roles are completely unrealistic.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 02:35 AM
1

This is disgusting, I don't want to be associated with that at all
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:40 PM
1

Jeez, this isn't even something interesting or exciting...
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 01:35 PM
17

No logical case, just a case of "give me sympathy!"
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:51 AM
3

Jeez, spend your money on whatever YOU want. What a pathetic loser.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:50 AM
1

give me attention!
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:47 AM
7

No room for cool alien characters or interesting tech, we need to cram in as many boring minorities & women into the film as possible. Rey is the least relatable main character in the history of everything. Beats Kylo Ren in a 1 on 1 lightsaber fight in the first movie, beats Kylo Ren in a force battle in this movie, destroys literally every tye fighter because she's now suddenly the best shooter/pilot in the galaxy. They've just made her super OP in every way, yay women are strong!
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 10:06 AM
5

Women who brag about "getting dick" are insufferable. Getting dick is about is difficult as breathing.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 08:59 AM
10

You're just treating them like men. If men acted the way most women do, you'd be a prick to them too
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 08:56 AM
15

I don't like players I'm going to be dating multiple people, I hope you're not the jealous type So be monogamous while she cheats on you & whines about oppression. Sounds appealing. What's the bet all the women in her friends list pumped her up with "yaasss queen" & "you deserve the best" bullshit.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 08:45 AM
3

Good luck to them, they can slut around by themselves. I'd never engage in an open relationship, because any woman even close to a 5 could have sex every day of the week if she wanted to.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 08:42 AM
7

I replied to the last ex-text I received with a "sorry, who's this?" Since I had her number deleted. She said her name, to which I said "firstname who?" - again, I know multiple people with that name. She seemed pretty salty, I didn't give her much. Plus she's engaged, fuck dealing with that noise.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 08:41 AM
2

MGTOW isn't about discrimination though, it's about valuing your own freedom over all else.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 05:14 AM
1

Worst thing is, all of the white male villains are portrayed as weak, snivelling traitors too
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 12:36 PM
2

So if someone bought a woman, would they end up just letting them go free once they hit the wall? No real value except house keeping after that point
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 11:10 AM
59

In her prime, she was about a 4.
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 06:09 AM
64

You're right, anything that takes away from their precious attention is the enemy
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 06:08 AM
3

I think most guys understand how costly marriage is and will only enter into it if they can find a girl who they perceive as enjoyable spending time with and worth showing off to friends/family. Not true MGTOWs, but higher standards.
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 06:05 AM
6

She's close to a 10 in the original picture and about a 3 here - why would Scotty or anyone want her now?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 11:31 PM
1

Honestly, it sounds like you don't even like yourself. You're not going to attract anything good with that type of mentality. Women aren't important, disregard them for at least the next 12 months. Being in good physical shape is important - work out 3-5 times a week & eat natural food a lot of the time. Creative outlets are important - You're a programmer! Make simple video games? Make an AI personality? Program robots and work towards getting on Battlebots (personal dream of mine, except I hav…
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 01:18 PM
1

You've unwittingly written one of the most horrible horror stories I'll ever read...
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 01:11 PM
1

Being a stay at home mum is the hardest job in the world though
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:48 PM
1

their assets Disgusting.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:48 PM
1

Cold blooded cunt mauling his life & finances when he'd provided her so much already. Women like this are a horrible cancer on the world.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:47 PM
1

Individual empowerment - the ability to make your own choices.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:28 PM
2

What a defeated loser - he's nothing more than another accessory for her
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:26 PM
1

Always the victims, keep catering to their every whims...
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:22 PM
43

Body like a fridge - her sense of entitlement's the only thing bigger than her gut
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:15 PM
3

"Men are disposable, women are busy with more important work" Words of my father 🙄
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:58 AM
9

31 seconds, jeeeez
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:29 AM
12

My only serious relationship seemed to enjoy gaming with me, but she would always use it as ammunition later on, so maybe it was more strategic... Casual chicks will usually xbox with me. Again, not sure if they enjoy it or not.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:22 AM
1

About 5 weeks. Can pretty much hook it up when I want to, but it's a fairly solid effort being average looking at best, haha
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:20 AM
9

I'd be of the view that you leave if it's possible to achieve full separation. Her choice to have the baby, her responsibility.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:05 AM
6

The ones who are "just here for fun" or "here for the luls" are the worst. Condescending bullshit protects them from realising how desperate they really are.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:03 AM
1

Sad life for the disempowered
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 09:00 AM
3

The fact that women are such a depreciating asset is what really gets me. You sign up for marriage knowing that the best years are already behind you. Why would anyone want a life knowing things are only going to get worse?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:48 AM
3

It's hard though, knowing that nothing the masses believe in is of any value. Having to self-determine your own purpose in the world, it leads to a lot of self doubt.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:45 AM
1

Honestly, I think a lot of these people are better off being controlled by some woman. It takes an incredible level of self determination & resolve to do what we do over such a long period of time. Guys who are prone to such violent downturns might not be able to ride the highs & lows solo the way we do.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:11 AM
1

What a disgusting beast I deserve the best
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:07 AM
2

Bahahahaha all day mate
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:02 AM
12

Many men want to be controlled by some psychotic cunt, many of them aren't capable of making choices for themselves and are more comfortable in the controlled suffering of a restrictive relationship.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 05:01 AM
2

Yeah mate, I've got mates who are definitely better looking than me & envy it, yet refuse to do anything other than cuck in LTRs
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:53 AM
1

Yeah I was thinking the same thing - I'd be keen on a Sydney meetup
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:52 AM
1

As an individual, I really can't impact these trends. I'm happy just living my life in a way that makes me happy, without worrying about the majority. Everything else doesn't really matter.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:24 AM
2

They're more comfortable winning the social approval of the majority, at the cost of their own freedom.
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:19 AM
14

Hahaha, good stuff bro. Not my cup of tea, but doing whatever you want is golden. Most people spend their time/money trying to chase the approval of others
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:07 AM
4

Poor guy was stuck in this horrible, self destructive mindset. I wonder what his childhood was like
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 04:05 AM
1

Isn't it obvious why they do shot tests though?
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 01:08 AM
3

Gatherings with couples are the worst. Make some MGTOW friends, it sounds like you're not really that close with your family
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 01:03 AM
4

they only fight because they love eachother. Constant squabbling is a part of a healthy relationship
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 01:01 AM
28

I haven't seen it yet, but it's incredible seeing this widespread reaction. No ones buying what they're selling
/r/MGTOW25/12/17 12:57 AM
1

More like "Looking for attention"
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 11:45 PM
7

Imagine being born with all the power in the world, and still being this much of a weak loser.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:19 PM
1

Just think: what couldn't you do before that you can do now? Do that.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:18 PM
1

Hahaha you troll
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:17 PM
1

Hahaha jeez. Reading this just gave me the urge to walk away, looks like I'm past the point of anger. Ps - what's wrong with Toyotaaaaaa?
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:13 PM
2

The treatment of young boys is horrible. Keep them docile, turn them into compliant little worker bees. Men are more creative than women when you don't drug the fuck out of them - harness that.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:08 PM
1

Think of what you want out of life, then think of how many of those things you could do while a woman & children lived off you. That's best case scenario too.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 08:48 AM
10

Organic diversity is powerful. However, it stops being a strength when you force it.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 08:44 AM
2

Plenty of these "queens" have damn high standards too
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 08:18 AM
1

She's confident showing off her curves because they are perfect just the way they are. Everyone is perfect & special - yay!
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 08:18 AM
1

Of course in her reflex reaction, she attacks his cum.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 07:54 AM
3

Don't rule out sex & relationships yet, just ensure that you don't compromise any of your values for a girl. I think you need to experience women to truly understand MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 03:15 AM
2

I'm a bit conflicted here. On the one hand, children are lifestyle suicide. On the other hand, children are an easy way to satisfy our flawed, biological urges. Personally I'd rather retire before 40 on a beach somewhere and donate sperm to satisfy the reproductive urges.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 03:13 AM
140

Mainstream society is disgusting. I've all but given up on the majority of humanity.
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 02:14 PM
10

Today, we're both off. He came home with a big package. I was a little excited and said "is that for me?" and he was like "NO!" and opened it. It was an extremely expensive suit. I know how much it costs because I had been there with him when he had bought the same suit in a different color. I didn't say anything and then as he opened it he said "This is my Christmas gift for myself." How dare he spend his money on himself! It's not like he earned it or anything!
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 12:51 PM
4

2 years - I was a serial relationship guy before that. Casual or nothing now.
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 12:33 PM
2

Quiet your mind, think in isolation. Who are you? What do you want? Who do you want to be? The answers to these questions are totally seperate to what others are/aren't doing.
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 12:05 PM
30

Good call, learn from this
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 11:56 AM
1

Choice! 👌
/r/MGTOW23/12/17 03:14 AM
0

How does this conversion even come up...
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:36 AM
2

Just so obsessed with others telling them how HARD their lives are.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:35 AM
16

No doubt she blows up when he's not enthusiastic about going shopping for the 9th time this month
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:32 AM
3

Green light - You can use this to spring board if it's not a good fit
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:29 AM
12

What's disgusting, vapid creature
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:27 AM
9

Or better yet, don't be such a petty approval seeker that you stress over gifts
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:25 AM
15

Honestly, because they're control freaks. They tend to be hoarders too. Look at a woman's room versus a man's room. The woman's room will have all of these useless pillows, decorations & other crap, while a man's room will just be functional. She wants to hoard as much money/stuff as possible and you spending YOUR money on YOUR interests interferes with that.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:23 AM
2

I don't think you need to be conscious to be MGTOW. Heck, I'd say I carried a somewhat MGTOW mentality even when I was in relationships. No special privileges just because you're a woman.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:20 AM
43

And the fact that there's literally zero moral conflict in here. "Good" characters are boring as hell.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 06:18 AM
16

I'm an Atheist & even I view sluts & single mum's as inherently less valuable than women who display some self control
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 04:36 AM
13

The whole thing is such a waste. The worst thing about relationships is that as you go along, women expect more & more from you while providing less & less benefits.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 03:29 AM
1

Hahaha, I love seeing the world broken down like this. We all walk around thinking we're so smart & important. But at the end of the day, we're all just flukey little instances of the Universe experiencing itself.
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 03:27 AM
1

This whole thing is terrifying. I've dated multiple girls who threatened suicide if I left them. Once those types of girls figure out they can do something like this and have the law backing up their lies, a lot of guys are going to be screwed over hard.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 10:37 PM
8

I think most would be willing to accept one or the other until an upgrade came along
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 12:10 PM
3

I'm all over 2K18 at the moment. Last one I owned was 2K15, but with the Rockets being so good this year I had to get around the new one.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 06:06 AM
1

if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 06:00 AM
1

Chill, it's the MGTOW way
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:56 AM
7

This is one way to force people into sexless monogamy...
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:26 AM
12

Addressing victims, he said: “Society is standing by your side.” Don't worry about the logistics - as long as we get to virtue signal, this is a win.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:24 AM
6

Are you sure this isn't Grindr? What a bunch of faggy selfies.
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:09 AM
3

I might go down the vanity route and create a scholarship or something
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:03 AM
7

It's up to men to appreciate them more. They're already perfect and beautiful and smart and funny #WomynLogic
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:01 AM
9

Yay for inclusion, everyone is equal cries in rainbow
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:51 PM
40

Problem: boys want one thing. Solution: destroy your entire value by not providing said thing.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:46 PM
16

You're focusing on side points of MGTOW, because they're the points you believe are easiest to dispute. MGTOW's core is as follows: 1. You are free to do whatever you want to do. 2. Generally speaking, modern relationships aren't worth the effort & risks. 3. Men & women are biologically programmed differently & want different things out of relationships. Everything else is a random personal opinion and isn't representative of the entire MGTOW forum.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:42 PM
12

"Nurrrrr that's oppressive to women!!!!!" Seriously though, they'd all just try to void the contracts & take 50% after getting fat and cheating, like they do with pre-nups
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:39 PM
5

Ugh, fuck those people. A lot of my mates are turning into that type of person under their girlfriends influences, worrying about numbers of likes & shit.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 10:34 PM
2

50 inch Sony 4K TV, bought it yesterday
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 09:06 PM
2

Immediately, this article jumps into whether we'll be able to "compete" with robots. Isn't the point of buying one of these things that you no longer want to compete?
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 09:02 PM
23

This "too boring" case against country living has always stunned me. The country side is gorgeous - Go hiking, fishing, camping, bike riding, painting, anything... sure, there's less places where you can sit around and watch others, but there's loads to do.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 08:57 PM
1

I'm not advocating marriage & kids either hahaha, what a con job.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 12:13 PM
31

How do people like this look at themselves in the mirror? Holy fuck, what a loser.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:29 AM
56

That's the beginning of it's first stomach
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:27 AM
4

This is the day he learns a lesson. He can continue trying what hasn't worked for him, or follow this learning with a shift in attitude.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:25 AM
1

Prostitution's expensive as fuck. Pussy is well overvalued, regardless of the law. A sex bot that offered alternate house functionality would be worth the investment though.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:24 AM
5

What do you want to prove & who do you want to prove it to?
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:22 AM
3

You're right. We're all dissatisfied by the status quo and we're all trying to make our own way through.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 11:21 AM
24

Is this legit? Really proves a point if it is.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 07:23 AM
2

When I'm running with a footy, about to go into contact. When I'm reeling in a fish. When I'm sitting around a fire with people I love. I live a pretty city life, but I really only feel happy when I get back in touch with the primal. A little bit counterintuitive really...
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:40 AM
1

Hahahahaha that's the way boy
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:37 AM
1

Ughhh, nooooo....
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:35 AM
21

I'm fairly blunt with this type of thing - "why would I want to do something like that?" is my usual response, accompanied by a look of disgust
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:15 AM
9

Most people would say what we do in MGTOW isn't masculine or manly, and that we need to "man up" and support a fat, single mother somewhere.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:11 AM
1

Yeah, I just keep stepping away from the whole institution. Not interested in all of the drama - it's not worth the upside.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:01 AM
39

Went back to his place after drinking on a night out. Fucked him. Waited till the following year to go to police. Definitely legit.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 03:00 AM
10

As a big Parramatta fan who had to endure some cunt making false DV accusations about one of our star backs (Semi Radradra) over the last two years, this has me salty. Straight up sick of all of this bullshit. Prove your claims or fuck off.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 02:59 AM
15

Reading this crap just amps up my MGTOW
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:19 AM
1

Just hire whoever's best for roles. Don't hire any divas, or drama queens (male or female) You'll probably end up with more men naturally, I don't believe there's any law against that??
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:14 AM
3

40's hot as hell mate
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:09 AM
1

I live in Sydney (Australia) and I'm always thinking of moving away from the city & into some coastal country town. Really cheap living, beautiful country, relaxed life. I've also considered South East Asia or South America. Lower cost of living, beautiful Coast, beautiful women.
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:08 AM
3

So far it hasn't. I refuse to integrate girls into my life though. Don't take them to family/social/work things, so when you withdraw, they really have no connections. Some will confront you, but it'll generally more be like a "I don't feel like this is going anywhere - can we be serious?" type thing, which I'll say no to. "I'm just not at that stage of my life and don't see myself getting there in the next 12 months"
/r/TheRedPill19/12/17 11:14 AM
1

Bloody hell, well it's good to hear you got your head around things. I'm of the view that the best way to get good with this type of thing is to get yourself rejected a bunch of times. Become desensitised, come to the realisation that these bitches don't matter and life goes on, whether you get rejected by 0 or 100 chicks. I never get hit on by good looking chicks though, any tips besides the obvious be good looking/charismatic?
/r/TheRedPill18/12/17 03:32 AM
2

"booking things in, doing that little extra thing for someone in need, making lists, worrying about people’s feelings and planning so that the everyday is manageable" In other words - nothing. Basically all I got from this article was that women worry endlessly about social niceties & bullshit. What's with the obsessive present buying (using the husbands money) for literally every person you've ever met. Seriously, if you need to put this much worry & effort into maintaining relationships, you'r…
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 11:16 PM
1

I'd probably have to go with brunette, South American type complexion. These things seem to be kicking off, hahaha
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 10:44 PM
5

Leave. Now.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 10:24 PM
2

That wouldn't change anything for me. I'd consider marriage if I thought women were fully formed human beings though
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 10:15 PM
-7

Ehhhh, people are into different things, this must just be what gets him off... Saying that, people with destructive fetishes need to be careful about shitting where they eat. Hopefully he learns from this.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 09:15 PM
29

I'm not the master at this by any means, but I find drifting away to be effective. Just slowly become more distant and less valuable to them. Slowly they'll realise they can get more out of other guys and pretty much disappear. One bonus here is that when they stop believing in you as a potential provider, the only thing they can get from you is comfort & sex.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/17 09:13 PM
0

My parents raised me in a way that I was taught I could do anything, as long as I could: a) Accept the consequences. b) Justify my decision, at least to myself. I still live that way, there is no intrinsic power in authority figures or rules to me.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/17 09:09 PM
1

Right now I'm using an FL Studio free trial. It seems to have pretty much all of the functionality, but if you want to start uploading tunes & all that, you'll probably need to pay. Definitely worth trialling a few different apps though, I'll send you an add and you can drop me a message if you find anything good, haha
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 09:03 PM
2

Don't fear failure. You know the key difference between successful & unsuccessful people? It's how afraid they are of failure. Think about your favourite sports star, they've missed more shots than you've even taken. No one remembers your failures when you succeed.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 08:15 PM
1

Right!?! And you know what, there were costs to choosing that lifestyle. They lost a lot of the comforts and security of conforming life, but they decided the upside was worthwhile. We are the same. We choose freedom over the satisfaction of our biological urges & comfort desires.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 08:06 PM
1

A few hobbies I've picked up recently to work around this: 1. Going to the beach. It's about an hour away, but it chills me out so much. 2. Creating techno/EDM music. I'm terrible at it but I find messing around with tunes & mixing really enjoyable. 3. Video editing & sports analysis. I've always enjoyed the sports analysis side of thing, but I'm currently in the process of getting decent enough with video editing to post some content to YouTube. 4. Writing - Sometimes I'll play a random playlis…
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 08:00 PM
3

Hey man, I can feel your suffering in your post. Listen to me man, you need a clean slate. Right now, your mind is this big, stewing mess of mixed emotions & misdirected values. Take 12 months off women. Heck, it can be 6 months even. Just don't pursue women at all for that time. Spend as much time as possible doing quiet activities with music in your ears. It doesn't matter what, but personally I enjoyed learning IT skills & hitting the gym. Outside of that, I don't scroll through my phone on t…
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 07:51 PM
4

Hahahahahaha
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 07:32 PM
1

I'd be thinking name the dog after a character. Being a pretty big LOTR fan, Sam would work for me. The way he supported Frodo was very dog like. You could also name him after an athlete or some other admirable person?
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 07:31 PM
1

I read shitloads of business articles, particularly regarding sales & perception strategy. The mainstream sheep are here to stay, might as well figure out how to manipulate them. Outside of that, I just think about the endgame. Financial independence before 35 living on the beach somewhere, or entrepreneurship, maybe both. Either way, I need money behind me.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 07:12 PM
11

I'm only 23, and even I cop a bit of this from male/female friends & family for going fairly exclusively for 18-21 year olds. They all want you to suffer the way they do. The thought of a friend banging 18 year olds while they're hitting some fat, sloppy cunt once a week max is too much for them to fathom.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 07:09 PM
1

These people deadset have no concept of what MGTOW is about. We're leaving all you cunts alone. This means no harassment or victimisation for women. This means less competition for you Blue Pilled plebs. If I was a believer in the blue pill lifestyle, I'd be cheering about this trend.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:53 PM
8

Not vegetables
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:42 PM
16

Rey is insufferable
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:42 PM
3

Funny how no one gets famous looking like the after pictures
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:31 PM
9

Your point about inner peace really hits the right note for me. Since going MGTOW, I'm persistently optimistic about the future. Instead of dreading the boredom of settling down, I now understand that I've got full control over my future. No matter what I want to do - I can do it. Obligations aren't compulsory, they're optional.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:29 PM
17

I find one of two things happen: 1. They laugh and agree with you, while maintaining their girl is clearly different, but most women are like what you're saying. 2. They say you're right and that living an independent life would be amazing, but it's just not realistic. Eventually you need to "grow up & settle down", which is ironic because I'm further career wise than any of my mates... In both instances, they see some of the truth, but refuse to act.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:21 PM
7

My carrot is financial independence before 35. I want to get to the point where I can choose what I'm working on, without having to worry about money.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:00 PM
7

Good luck to them, the betas & the women can have their own little world. I'm going to steer clear.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:56 PM
2

Right!?! I'm not hardcore into canon, but after watching all of the Clone Wars cartoon series, there's so much they could've worked with. Heck, if you insist upon throwing around powerful female characters, explore Darth Maul/Savage's origin story on Ventrice's home planet. This whole scrawny white girl narrative is just too bullshit.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:55 PM
9

This entitlement is insane...
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:26 PM
1

She's got that "I'll queef on you & play it off as a joke" face
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:24 PM
2

What good is wealth if you need to get permission from some controlling she-devil to enjoy any of it?
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:22 PM
9

Hahahahahahaha fuck that
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:20 PM
4

I've gone through stretches of working 12 hour days that were pretty much this. Full time work & consultancy side hustle. It's not too bad when you know you're making bank for the extras, but if this is literally just to make ends meet then it would be horrible. I can't foresee him getting out of this situation any time soon either, what a life. Imagine when they have kids & he has to come home to her whining about that too.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/17 05:16 PM
2

You're right, it's really difficult picking up jobs straight out of University. Saying that, your second job out of Uni will be piss easy to pick up if you can demonstrate some talent & progression.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:11 PM
4

4 is an insanely low average considering there are plenty of guys out there with counts well over 20. Heck, I was monogamous from 16-21 and I'm in the double digits at 23. Must be tonnes of blokes out there with 0-1 counts.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/17 05:09 PM
4

I graduated with a similar degree to you about 2 years ago & work in IT Sales/Consultancy these days. Being a bit on the introverted side at times, I actually chose Sales to develop skills that I was lacking. On top of that, the money is phenomenal straight up if you're half decent. It's not a bad career move at all, as long as you can pick some sort of high value, complex product with a decent brand behind it.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:55 PM
2

Yes, but never with any intention of developing beyond the casual. Saying that, the more MGTOW I go, the less interest I have in putting in the effort.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:51 PM
9

Always telling men to do things, never doing said things themselves. Nothing pisses me off more than people demanding we do things they can do themselves.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:49 PM
18

Funny how women become worse people when they receive more power
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:45 PM
7

And who's fault is it that men "don't know about the clit"? One group holds knowledge on this point, another group does not. Maybe try communicating like actual human beings you fucking vapid cunts (women)
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:44 PM
5

Yes please.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:40 PM
4

Snooze. Individuals have personal views on the sexes (both men & women), but it seems the major, policy based gender discrimination in the West occurs in the pro-female manner. The wage gap is a myth, however the gap in hours worked is not.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:29 PM
170

I love how she still resorts to "you definitely don't have a girlfriend therefore no value" as a defence of herself.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:23 PM
3

Maaaate, where abouts was this?
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:50 AM
4

If we're going to be forced into shitty quota hires, we might as well be hiring chicks who look like this
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:48 AM
0

I'm not great looking, but I'm good looking enough to sometimes get this type of proposition from 0-4/10 girls. Occasionally I'll do exactly what you suggested with the 4's. I've learned to say no to the ones who have any proximity to my life though, it's just not worth the aftermath.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:41 AM
3

I love discussing potential actions in hypothetical scenarios. Majority of people aren't creative enough to imagine scenarios, potential difficulties and actions. However, women are significantly worse in this area in my experience. I tend to throw a few hypothetical scenarios on early dates, just to figure out whether someone is going to be worth talking to in the long run. "I don't know" = Deal breaker.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:39 AM
31

Curvy & fluffy are such fun words for people who are keeping themselves in a permanent state of disability.
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:36 AM
11

I don't know mate, in my experience employers don't mind you working for you. You just need to convince them that you're working towards a certain thing & that they can benefit from exploiting you as a part of working towards said thing. In my recent interviews, I explained that money was my priority. However, immediate money wasn't the major goal, it was to get into a role where I could be constantly learning & progressing, moving towards my financial goals. I'm of the view that my employers vi…
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 06:32 AM
1

Where I live, there are only a few designated places you can jet ski. If they could be used more freely, I'd be riiiiiight into getting one!
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:52 AM
70

MGTOW is simple. I choose not to own a helicopter because the costs far far outweigh the benefits. I choose not to own a JetSki because the costs far outweigh the benefits. I choose not to commit to a woman because the costs outweigh the benefits. Sure, there are positives to all three. But none fit what I want out of life, so I choose to go another way.
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 09:01 PM
1

As a fellow 23 year old who is viewed as deranged and damaged (by the BPs and ladies) for holding the same views, I'm glad to see you've learned from your experiences. Enjoy!
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 08:16 AM
6

I had pretty terrible self control when I was newer to this (a couple of years back), so I always tried using a condom to start, but took that shit off midway through. Little bit more disciplined these days...
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 09:33 AM
10

I don't think men are "afraid to ask for help" at all. The problem is that we're trained all our lives to take the suffering, so when we feel shit, we don't think there's anything wrong with that. Feeling bad is just the way things are, as long as you perform your duties & keep women happy.
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 03:50 AM
1

Infants
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 03:47 AM
2

Ehh, I wouldn't force myself into a conversation with what is obviously an insufferable cunt.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:41 PM
3

Freedom over all. Relationships with women destroy freedom. To achieve freedom, disregard relationships, never compromise your own values & desires for anyone.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:35 PM
2

University is excellent if you've got a passion, a vision & know how you'll use your qualifications to further yourself. However if you're not really sure, don't waste your time sitting in shitty lectures about things you don't care about.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:34 PM
1

I find female protagonists to be insufferable when they're portrayed as selfless. It's just completely unrealistic. In the same way, I hate seeing male characters who are always pure of heart goody goodys - like Superman & Captain America, as opposed to more conflicted heros like Iron Man. Inner conflict is the key to a good character.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:32 PM
2

Ughhhh, terrible.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:27 PM
3

I wouldn't mind having people play match maker for me. Easy dates on referrals, pump & duuuuump.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:25 PM
3

My Mum seems to understand my vision & doesn't ever try to turn me. She's not a fan of modern women or feminism at all, but still thinks I should be open to feeling for others in case something good comes along. I think it helps yay she saw me dating some suicidal cunt with big tits & a fat ass in high school for 4 years, so she understands how bad my taste is, hahaha.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:24 PM
8

Really? I pump up my shit, try to get them on the chase. Not like I'm ever going to follow up by spending any of my hard earned on them.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:20 PM
13

As a teenager, I generally viewed women as a social validation tool. I liked fucking girls that other guys wanted to fuck & I enjoyed the stature that came with that. These days, I understand there are much better ways to win the admiration of people around you than keeping annoying parasites around. Beyond that, people are fickle, their views on me/you mean absolutely nothing.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:18 PM
3

It just makes sense. 23 here, I grew up looking forward to the freedom of 18-25 & fearing the married phase (which I was indoctrinated to believe was 25 years old. The day I realised jumping into married life was optional, was the most empowering day of my life. I've got all the time in the world
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:15 PM
5

What did your sisters do to get disowned? Your fortitude is excellent man, only when you need nothing from people can you really perceive their value. Needy people just see "what they do for meeee", while someone like you has no investment on the outcome of interactions, so you see others through an unbiased lense.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:12 PM
3

Bloody hell, each day I move a little further away from these "normal" relationships
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:09 PM
1

Ahh, I was more taking sentience on the ability to perceive the world. Thanks for the clarification though
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:08 PM
16

Shit, that's fucking insane. She better be a 10/10, amazing cook & incredible cock sucker with some good party tricks
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:07 PM
43

If I'm working my ass off to make $10k a month, WHY THE HELL WOULD I THEN SPEND THAT MONEY ON SOME WOMAN? Fuck me dead. This entitlement to a man's money is incredible.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 08:19 PM
4

You'd think she'd have Manager to find some decently comfortable shoes considering how much time she wastes shoe shopping. Women are children.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 08:16 PM
10

What the fuck are those things on her back
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:33 PM
24

I hate these men more than I hate the attention whores. Fucking pathetic.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:30 PM
3

I'm a bit at that phase, actively try to help friends in seeing the MGTOW light & blatantly don't invite their girlfriends to things.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:28 PM
4

The idea of listening to & learning from some Snapchat story worshipping cunt while chasing her visions (more attention) makes me want to die. MGTOW gives me life.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:27 PM
29

Good stuff man, self improvement is always worthwhile. No worries, I had a similar thing happen to me at 20. I'm 23 now and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Ended up moving out of home to live on campus, being more active, doing better academically & rediscovering my drive & charisma. I'm not sure how common this is, but personally, I'm a shell of my best self in relationships. This is a huge part of why I went MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:17 PM
1

Maybe you're right. Thanks for the well thought out response, I'll have a ponder.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:14 PM
2

Understandable, I think a lot of people only take it to the extreme in attempt to jolt others out of their "women are perfect, vulnerable creatures that deserve your commitment" societal training/baseline instinct. Cheers mate! Happy travels
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:09 PM
5

I've always been a bit sentimental with objects. For example, I love my cars. I think I'd enjoy something like this, especially if it could cook & clean a bit too.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 12:17 PM
1

Good stuff big man, genuinely enjoy reading this type of thing from people your age. You've been doing this for a while and still enjoy the movement, makes me more comfortable being this way.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:44 AM
1

How convenient that all of these disadvantages oppress her. It's almost like she's completely incapable of seeing anything except excuses for her own failures. Also, read this if you want to puke: "As a queer femme of color, I keep close relationships with people who go beyond allyship; they’re true accomplices in the fight against white supremacy, queerphobia, and misogyny."
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:38 AM
10

If you could train women the way you train dogs, I'm sure you'd produce a couple of decent ones, hahahah
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:35 AM
4

"I'm taking advantage of my average looks in my evaporating prime, give me attention?"
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:33 AM
51

When you leave a plate of sausages out within reach of your dog, you don't expect the dog to leave them alone. Women are in the same category to me. Women aren't sentient human beings - they're ruled by instincts and emotions. This disgusting little parasite is just acting on her instinct and isn't knowingly doing anything wrong. In her mind, no one except her exists.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:27 AM
10

Did you miss the memo? Dying of heart disease is sexy #curvy #healthyatanysize
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:23 AM
1

I love my mother & my nana more than anyone on the planet. In fact, right now, I'm chilling on the couch watching murder mysteries with the two of them. I have multiple female friends who I genuinely enjoy as human beings. I'm aware of their deep faults, but they bring happiness to my life so I look past their faults like I'm sure they look past mine. Acknowledging the dangers of female instincts doesn't mean you hate all women, it just means you're careful with that fire because you don't want …
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:19 AM
4

Totally fine with this, I find women insufferable to speak with anyway.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:11 AM
1

I like this theory, but is it true? I'd say I'm in that 5-6/10 category & I have a fairly easy time getting sex with 3-7/10 girls by the second "date" Maybe an exception to the rule, but I know quite a few guys who aren't top 20%-ers who validate this thought - why do you think that is?
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:10 AM
1

This is a platform, he can leap from this low point. Learn from your failings men (the failing being trusting women)
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:07 AM
5

This deserve shit pisses me off more than anything. I make a point of stating publicly that any girl dating my mates is lucky to have them and definitely "punching" (meaning they're the worse looking partner) because I hear everyone always hammering the bloke, saying how much prettier/smarter/better the female partner is. The women get pissssseeeeddddd. Finally someone isn't pumping their cunt egos up and they can't handle it.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:06 AM
4

Hahahaha, absolutely pathetic when they try to shame your preferences. Personally I predominantly go for Arab chicks & mixed black girls, but I'm developing a love for the Asian girls too. Really anyone except white girls, which pisses off some of my white friends being a white dude. Saying that, the fat ones will never critique you if you admit to liking the thicccc queenz
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 11:03 AM
39

Hahahahahaha our society is doomed.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:55 AM
3

The first two quotes = Im crazy & morbidly obese, with incredibly high standards.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:54 AM
120

Man I'm sorry to hear that. Saying that, you have an incredible chance now. For the first time in 6 years, you're free to think as an individual. Think - what can you do now that you couldn't do while you were tied down? It doesn't have to be banging chicks, I'm talking hobbies/interests, other pursuits, groups to join, etc. This is your chance to release yourself from the shackles of complacency & become the best possible version of yourself.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:54 AM
20

This is because society only assigns the responsibility of toddlers to women, while giving them unlimited power. They can't be held responsible for negative things, but god help you if you don't agree that ALL WOMEN ARE STRONG & SMART & BEAUTIFUL & FUNNY & DESERVE BETTER THAN YOU!
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:51 AM
0

Forking out tens of thousands of dollars copying other people's looks for external validation isn't going your own way, it's pathetic in most cases.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:49 AM
0

You're right, Incels are the exact opposites of MGTOWs. Surely only the particularly unintelligent ones would believe this is the place for them?
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:48 AM
4

Agree, that comment was phenomenal
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:39 AM
10

They only pump eachother up because they want nice things said back to them. Complements, sincere or insincere, are like drugs to them.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 07:25 AM
1

Fair call, personally I enjoy being blunt & honest about my life, so opening up feels productive to me. To be clear though, I flat out refuse to be a victim in any situation, it's more a case of "X happened, if I do nothing this will fucking suck, I'm considering Y & Z, what do you think?" It's definitely weakness though, it's me seeking validation for my thought process. Still, sometimes people raise points I haven't considered, so I re-evaluate, making the exercise valuable.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/17 07:13 AM
15

What a manipulative cunt. Glad he figured this out.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 09:59 PM
1

Damn that's disturbing. Sucks that there's such a power imbalance there, really not much you can do.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 09:52 PM
2

Man I would've thrown her laptop out the window, fuck that bitch
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 09:45 PM
10

Currently experiencing mild nausea from reading that.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 09:42 PM
38

Typical fat black woman with a god complex. You can be 100% sure she believes people are intimidated by her sass & strength.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 08:33 PM
52

This is horrible advice. While people don't want to hear your whining, they often respect your ability to be bluntly honest about your situation & what you're doing to improve it. Telling men to suffer in silence just reinforces what has led to men being roughly 80% of suicides.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 08:14 PM
3

Gaaaaay
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 06:05 AM
4

Proving things, whether it's providing that I can do something to myself, proving a point in a debate or proving people wrong when they tell me I can't do something. I just enjoy that winning feeling of achieving something it's up in the air. Outside of that, I really enjoy my own space, makes me extremely happy having a spot where I know no one will bother me.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 05:22 AM
2

Hahaha, accuratw
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 05:13 AM
2

Focusing on the real issues
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:54 AM
11

The kid knows what he's talking about
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:54 AM
2

I have nothing against you doing that, sometime I do that. Saying that, I'm more arguing against it as an expected obligation.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:53 AM
19

They're just obsessed with attention, it must be horrible living as such an empty piece of garbage.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:48 AM
4

Agree, we all pay for ourselves - why should the person taking the initiative in inviting people be punished?
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 04:38 AM
2

Why would you want to get into an LTR with someone like that? She'll 100% be "too busy" to provide the one thing she's even remotely good for - sex.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 01:19 AM
1

"who then had the gall to tell me he wanted a younger woman so he, as he put it, “could breed”. " how dare this man want to have children! He should give up his aspirations and date a 50+ year old woman! Also, what's all this bullshit about there being "7 women for every 1 man"? There are roughly an equal number of men/women... I think these women are far too obsessed with how great they are and aren't thinking enough about what they actually provide in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 01:15 AM
2

I can see why guys cave at this point. Unprotected sex with the potential for pregnancy is hawwwtt, even if it ends up ruining your life.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 01:07 AM
1

A woman could never get what she wants from a robot, that being dollar dollar bills & attention. A man can have whatever he wants from a robot, as long as it can fuck, cook & connect with the technology in the house.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:56 AM
2

"School of Hard Knocks"
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:52 AM
9

These cops are going to be useless.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:51 AM
3

I've got a similar situation with a mate who's in a serious relationship with this disgustingly overweight, flabby, loud, obnoxious, drug addicted older woman. One of the most disgusting entitled cunts I've ever met. I spent about a year trying to convince him of what she is, and he basically never disagreed, but just has no self value beyond wanting "someone who is chill". What's more chill than eating & drugging yourself to an early grave?
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:49 AM
1

The pathetic losers who hyper-inflate the value of ugly sluts are the ones fucking us over. If everyone could just chill the fuck out, stop pedestalising the sluts & have some self respect, we'd have a much more equal society.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:45 AM
1

Society will never turn on women. 90%+ of men are incapable of viewing women as villains until something is done to them personally. Simple fucks.
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:09 AM
5

I grow a beard because I think they're fucking badass and I always wanted one as a kid. Right now I run that buzz cut & beard look, pondering doing the full shaved head.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 11:47 PM
3

I didn't read the whole thing, but it sounds like she's a dude to me and mostly in the right here? He's fairly content just chilling, seems like he's not ready for that 9-5 family & kids life, which makes me wonder why he shacked up with a single mother.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 11:29 PM
11

What the actual fuck... How can people get so invested in this garbage?
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 10:37 PM
1

Looks definitely matter. Saying that, I think you can angle different types in different ways. For example, I'm not a pretty guy at all but I'm tall, broad & strong. Throw in the fact that I'm fucking balding at 23 though and I've been forced into a certain archetype. The older, stronger angle seems to work well on some of the 18-21's, but I'm sure 80%+ aren't into it at all.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/17 10:34 PM
2

People generally only get offended when you're telling the truth. Stop being such a piece of shit and it won't be so easy to offend you.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 10:11 PM
11

I don't blame these women for abusing the system. When you give a parasitic, disgusting disease (women) power, they're going to destroy the host (men) What everyone needs to fucking do is stop taking women seriously, stop putting them on pedestals and stop letting them get away with shit we wouldn't let other dudes get away with.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 02:48 PM
1

Do you know what percentage? I would agree with you, most guys seem to be 5'9-5'11
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 06:13 AM
1

I'm wealthy, but dress cheap so they've got no idea about wealth. Certainly not ripped. I think the key is not caring, the person who is willing to walk away has all of the power.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 06:12 AM
2

This is exactly how I view my life. 23 now, making money & investing so that I can retire & live cheap at the beach at some point. Saying that, I'm also really interested in starting my own businesses, so maybe I do that. The key is financial & social freedom. The ability to do what you want, to drop everything & chase your dreams without having restrictive obligations.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 06:10 AM
1

Exactly, if anything it demonstrates a complete lack of growth & inability to take on the world
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 06:08 AM
3

That's weird as, I'm a disappointing 25% body fat with some good strength, but certainly no good looks and I can have a Tinder date every weekend. Work on your bio, I recommend doing a satirical "anonymous review" segment. Google search good bios for some inspiration and make sure you've got individual photos, social photos and photos in nature (beach)
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:29 AM
3

OH no
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:26 AM
1

Having a business degree and the ability to talk shit with the best of them has helped my career imo. You're right though, you really need to figure out how to leverage your degree.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:17 AM
1

As someone who went to an all boys school, couldn't this type of case be pushed against schools, forcing them to change their policies too? Gotta say, I loved the lads environment. Everything was about rugby, taking the piss and things were sorted physically before everyone quickly moved on. None of that boring, gossipy drama shit.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:15 AM
1

Absolutely, I also hate when people complain about "fairness" in reference to them not being given things they deserve.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:05 AM
1

As someone who works in IT sales & consultancy, I speak with a lot of extremely successful IT professionals each day (while not being one myself) It seems that across the guys who are on the rise, lots are juggling multiple gigs. That may be the key, you quite quickly develop a broader level of experience. Outside of that, get certified. Often the people doing hiring are too simply to understand that skills & qualifications aren't the same things. Good luck man, maybe finding a mentor would be t…
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:02 AM
7

I find that most women openly complain about this. I've been at BBQs and stuff, where myself & 1-2 other friends will be talking sports or gaming and the majority group will complain because we're talking about something they don't understand. Deadset, it's like they're lost without having us available to entertain them 100% of the time.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 02:34 AM
6

I raised something similar to friends the other day, they basically all agreed that this would be an awesome life, but did sprout of some bullshit objections. Things like: 1. It's not realistic. 2. You can't just have fun forever. 3. Eventually we need to grow up. I hate that they've wrongly connected growth with tying yourself down to some slut.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 02:23 AM
3

I really hate the word "fair". You don't deserve anything, it's not your birthright to be supported by others. Make your own way or die trying.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:58 AM
10

Based on the little picture, it looks like she's been eating out quite a bit. Enjoy any attention you get honey.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:51 AM
0

Yeah, girls with only filtered photos on their Tinders are a no go. Guaranteed to be disgusting little trolls
/r/TheRedPill09/12/17 01:50 AM
1

This has to be a joke. I've played quite a bit of mixed sports & the top 10% of female players wouldn't even be top 50% males. Deadset, some of them are absolutely embarrassing. It's like half of women are physically disabled.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:49 AM
2

I'm kind of into that look anyway, problem is the women attached to those looks are Kardashian worshipping, self absorbed cunts. sex bots FTW.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:46 AM
5

You're absolutely right, taking the red pill didn't cause me to hate women, but it did further my view that women are barely sentient. They're children at best, ruled by their emotions and evolutionary urges. You can't hate a woman for acting the way they do just like you can't hate a bee for stinging you when you're near it's hive. My main source of frustration is that the majority of my friends don't understand this and continue to pour their resources into disgusting women.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:44 AM
2

Yeah, we're bloody lucky that some of us figured this out early.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 01:39 AM
1

I'm openly extremely superficial with women because I understand their nature. So nah, it doesn't really bother me that they're using me, because I'm also using them. Relationships are transactional, this is why I don't think things like love should impact decision making.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 11:59 PM
2

Agree. Wake up, cop a BJ and have it cook breakfast while I'm having a shower
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 11:56 PM
4

Ehhh, I think it works on certain girls. I'm a touch over 6'1 & in that chubby/muscular physique bracket. I feel like I don't attract the problem girls some of you talk about, because I'm not what they're seeing in magazines. It tends to be more submissive girls that like my type.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 01:09 PM
3

"Omg we are so weird" "I have suuuuch a dirty mind"
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:25 AM
1

Reading one post, and this woman is bragging that she's had sex less than 6 times in the last year and that any man who requests more should be told to "go to hell" No doubt she's an empowered stay at home mother parasite living off some poor bloke.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:21 AM
4

It was shared publicly, popped up in my newsfeed
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:04 AM
9

Yeah, the hypocrisy is a little disgusting. Saying that, I'm definitely picky for genetic things (hips to waist ratio, facial beauty, etc), so I don't mind if chicks are too. Works for me being over 6ft but against me with my shitty hair, shaving it all off this month.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 10:03 AM
1

They're idiots, but I've always kind of enjoyed the idea of having 3-8 hot Arab sluts worshipping me. If I was going to work all my life and gave a family, that's how I'd want to do it.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 09:21 AM
1

You're only a "real man" and "grown up" if you're willing to commit to a woman, worship women & devote your life to pleasing women. Expect nothing in return. You are a tool.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 09:15 AM
0

I was talking about this with Blue Pilled friends and even they were saying that these bots could be better than the real thing. Unfortunately, their training is deep. They still considered choosing a sex robot over indentured servitude with a fat, aging woman to be "sad"
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 09:09 AM
1

Imagine that, men having power? Can't have that!
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:56 AM
3

Holy fuck that's exciting, how old are you man? Any kids? Any frozen sperm? I think I'll do the same thing at some point.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:54 AM
1

This is disturbing
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:52 AM
6

23 and I don't use Instagram, once created an account and eye rolled my way out of it within half an hour. Social media is terrible - the only thing I use it for is focused groups & messaging
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:45 AM
2

In Australia, loads of contractors are forced to hire at least 40% women if they want government contracts. What does this result in? Wasted tax payer money. I hate that thousands of my dollars are funnelled into this garbage.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:42 AM
2

Pathetic. I'll never give up a centimetre of my space. Fuck paying for some bitches house while you're stuck in a tiny crevice.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:21 AM
1

Some type of qualification & skill is a good thing. It doesn't have to be college, but make sure you're an expert at something if you want to make $$$ & do interesting work
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:05 AM
1

Ehh, just let it happen. Saying that, there's 1 rule: Never compromise your own values or desires. So if you're into a girl, feel free to have a crack - just don't give her any power and don't do anything you don't want to do. This isn't full blown MGTOW, but it's the way I (23) deal with your issue. It'll mean you end up having a few short term flings before they realise you're not "long term material" and find some other pleb.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 08:02 AM
1

Hahahahaha, this is gold. No women at my work, except for the building receptionists, so I don't have anyone to try this on
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:44 AM
2

Women are children. Children can't be punished by the law.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:34 AM
11

"Professional" female athletes are the worst.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:33 AM
2

Yeah, I haven't figured out how in person flirting with strangers works without alcohol. 10/10 tinder game, 3/10 bar game, 0/10 sober f2f game.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 07:31 AM
2

There's really no question about it, these bots are going to blow away the real thing
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 02:42 PM
4

They're heros, so powerful, so oppressed
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 01:10 PM
5

Imagine being this much of an oblivious hypocrite - what a nightmare
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:29 AM
5

Scroll down, there's some gold pics below haha
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:28 AM
1

Imagine waking up next to that thing each day...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 07:56 PM
14

Clearly a goddess worthy of a 6'4, tan, muscular guy who earns 6 figures minimum
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 12:21 PM
2

Honestly, I improvised. Someone I'd worked with previously was looking to hire an Analytical Sales Manager and they offered me the role. I met with them after work and pitched them on the fact that I could do 80% of the job in 30% of the time, meaning big cost cutting for them while I was able to jack up my hourly rate. Once someone trusts your work, they're always going to choose you over a new hire. I'm still very new to all of this though, haven't had too much of a crack at prospecting for mo…
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 04:38 AM
18

The essence of MGTOW is freedom - you're free to do as you will & think what you like 👍🏼
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 02:53 AM
1

Hahahaha, plenty of the 18-21 year olds are fat, boring & disgusting too 😂
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 02:02 AM
3

I think it's important to remember that sales isn't beating someone over the head with your idea until they submit. Good sales is consultative, its about twisting your offering & tailoring your language to fit into your prospects needs.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/17 09:48 AM
1

Every single friend I have is at least somewhat Blue Pilled. I don't know a single person who has openly decided that they don't want to have a LTR & have kids "one day". You're right though, I need to try to balance the people around me. Not sure how to meet other MGTOWs though...
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 09:30 AM
3

That's the point though, they're miserable, I'm sick of being friends with miserable people. I'm not full MGTOW either - still have casual flings but never let it get serious.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 07:16 AM
1

They've got him wearing pink & a woman's dressing gown too, she's the tough alpha of the house
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 05:12 AM
5

How good of her to "patiently wait" while he puts in 80 hour weeks creating a life for them
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 04:56 AM
5

He's weak, short sighted & desperate
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 04:37 AM
26

These new age bitches are filthy
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 04:30 AM
1

Women enter marriage hoping men will change. Men enter marriage hoping women won't change. Both parties are disappointed. You're rolling the dice big time, the woman you first marry won't be the same woman you're married to in 5, 10, 20 or 50 years.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 02:16 AM
11

Honestly, it's likely to get to the point where these sex dolls are superior to the majority of women. Imagine having one that could cook, sexually please and converse with its owner. My first reaction to older sex dolls was that they were for weirdos, but my mind's changing the more I realise how crazy/costly women are.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 02:15 AM
3

I've got a male friend who does this and it pisses me off, proudly claims he's got the best sense of fashion in our group of friends.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 01:19 AM
2

Romantic relationships are an exchange, I believe everyone should treat them as such. What do you bring to the table, what do they bring to the table? If they stop bringing something to the table, either withdraw some of your offering, or leave. Sentimentality in relationships is for the weak.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 01:18 AM
3

I went to an all boys school (50-50 teacher gender split) and I think because of that, I'm much happier in all guy work places. Same with my friends, I practically never introduce girls I'm dating to them, even with their girlfriends around. I just think keeping the two seperate means that everything is much more drama free.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 12:37 AM
5

Funny how much they talk about "winning" when referring to qualities of a guy. You haven't won, you haven't achieved anything - you're just passively riding some other dudes charisma wave.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 12:34 AM
11

Agree, society favours the weak
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 12:06 PM
8

My point is more that women are pathetic children
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 12:05 PM
21

Kind of like how a kid hitting an adult is laughed at while an adult hitting a kid is incarcerated. If you're powerful, you have more responsibility.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 10:17 AM
1

Yuck, swipe left.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 04:32 AM
1

Finding a job with good hours when you have zero experience is tough. Maybe try refereeing to start, if there's a sport you enjoy?
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 04:19 AM
4

I disagree - Jedi means suppressing your own self.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 04:17 AM
6

The worst part is the enormous hoard of disgusting little cunts who went to school bra-less in solidarity. Are you really up in arms about this? Here in Australia we've got school uniforms - I hated it at the time, but now I'm beginning to realise it was a decent idea.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 04:05 AM
0

Wow, my profile must be the opposite. Single mothers don't take me seriously at all. I'm 23, and 90% of the decent interest I get is 18-21.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 04:00 AM
2

Heroin? Being addicted to drugs isn't much better than being addicted to women.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 03:57 AM
1

These people just keep patting eachother on the back while they complain about the world being the cause of their own failure. Useless.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 03:49 AM
38

"Athletic & toned" Hahahahahha
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 02:29 AM
1

That's it. Keep it going until they start demanding bullshit. Some take 6 weeks, others 12 months.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 01:13 AM
1

Yeah, I couldn't work for a woman... They're insufferably weak & political.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:43 PM
5

Hahahaha, bloody beauty
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:41 PM
1

I try to be lighthearted about it. Laugh with them, and then smile while saying something like "look, if you want to give 75% of your income to some chick who sits around with your spawn all day, feel free! Personally I'll be retiring before 40 & chilling on the beach" Act like you're not trying to convince them of anything, you're just happy about your life choices.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:21 PM
4

Man that sounds really interesting - How far along are you with it? I'm crazy stacked with work at the moment, got a fairly heavy consulting engagement on the side of my full time work while progressively learning how to create professional videos (for sports analysis) so can't really commit a lot of time, but it'd be an interesting thing to chat about. Where are you from?
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:16 PM
7

Absolutely, I often swing across to zombie apocalypse or a virus wiping out 90% of the population too. It'd be horrible, but invigorating & extremely human.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:12 PM
1

I kind of agree with you. Being around people does shield me from my true fear though - that I'm wasting time, running out of time...
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:09 PM
2

"Straight single men may find it easier to get dates and even have sex, but there are few women who are willing to accept most of them as prospects for long-term relationships" Lol no. Every bitch pushes for the LTR.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:04 PM
23

Sorry dude, your sister is a disgusting parasite. Don't think about it too much...
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:57 PM
4

Like Nash Equilibrium type of thing? Very interesting stuff
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:47 PM
6

I had a girlfriend who blasted me for not doing enough for her. 98% of the time, I told her to fuck off and laughed in her face when she sprouted this bullshit. However, on this one occasion - I decided I wanted to make her happy, I'd give her what she wanted. I took her out on this huge date, bought her a pretty damn expensive necklace & had her overnight at mine, before taking her home after cooking her breakfast in the morning. On the way home, she kicks off the same argument about me not doi…
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:44 PM
12

I love discussing & preparing for wild scenarios with friends. Examining what people would do when their social constructs & fragile sense of safety vanish gives a unique look into the soul. Outside of that, I just like analysing. Made a bunch of money analysing sports stats, do consulting outside of work putting together data analysis reports for sales teams & providing strategic direction. Sometimes I just want to be a brute - Play rugby & basketball, contrary to my nerdy personality, I'm just…
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:30 PM
4

In my one LTR I was fairly cunty when denied sex. She withdrew her one thing, I withdrew my companionship. She'd spend the next 60 minutes begging for platonic intimacy because she knew she couldn't get it, before begrudgingly giving me the win. This whole dance eventually gets boring though, single with casual flings is easier.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:24 PM
2

Funny how they all want unconditional love, but pull shit like this.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:19 PM
1

This is actually devastating, you can feel the confusion & helplessness in his post
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:08 PM
1

Right!?! Fuck doing anything that doesn't provide benefit/enjoyment to you out of obligation. Work hard for yourself, do what you want, win.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 11:54 AM
3

Cold blooded, did she cheat or just some crazy?
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 07:48 AM
143

"It's a known fact that women cheat, we can't change that. Just accept it and make peace with it" Yes, accept it & make peace with the fact that no woman is worth dating long term.
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 02:42 AM
46

Dude, stop paying. Let's see how she responds to actually having to make some cash for herself.
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 01:49 AM
3

Nothing pisses me off more than Couple-Think, where they both view themselves as this disgusting, melted collective. "Hey man do you want to hang out?" "Yes, WE would like to hang out" I make a point of not inviting friends shitty girlfriends to things, I've lost friends to this. I'm probably the problem, but I have no interest in being friends with disgusting couple blobs who only want to "have a quiet one", "head off early", "meet for brunch" & "go to IKEA"
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 04:58 AM
2

Fuck all the people here who are telling you to disregard your family - they're no help. I have the same struggles as you man, being MGTOW in a very Blue Pilled family is tough, especially considering I always had girlfriends at family events up to about 2-3 years ago. Honestly, I've generally used two approaches: 1. Decimate them in a debate/argument. 2. Apathy - it's not a priority. Being 23, I've been copping this garbage since I broke up with my last LTR at 21. "It's time to find a girl to s…
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 04:53 AM
14

Being friends with some women, the amount of time they spend telling eachother that they "deserve" better and that they shouldn't "settle" for anything less than perfection is disgusting. I'm fairly confident this toxicity is just a way of keeping their friends as miserable as they are. I don't really blame women for being so retarded & confused. From birth, no one is honest with them.
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 02:42 AM
1

I think it's a bit of a different skill too. I'm much better at pulling on something like Tinder than in person
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 11:32 PM
1

Oooooft
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 11:14 PM
10

"Blah blah blah we were in the honey moon stage when we had a good sex life, you can't expect it to stay that good" Look at these bitches, entering relationships and happily letting their side of the bargain slip while they expect more and more from the bloke. Marriage is a horrible depreciating asset. I can't see why anyone would do marriage knowing that it's only going downhill.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 11:11 PM
1

This is not going in a good direction at all...
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 11:00 PM
7

Women always sneaking in to any conversation about victimhood
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 10:51 PM
86

And what happens to the false accusers? Nothing.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 10:48 PM
3

True, it doesn't work - however they realise they can't logically argue with me, so they resort to quieter, more manipulative measures
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 01:50 PM
3

23 here and I'm exactly the same. Honestly, I don't know how to stop the feelings or the urges. The key for me is that I flat out refuse to compromise my values or do anything I don't want to do for a girl. "Meet my family for brunch" - ehh, no that sounds lame. "Come shopping with me" - lol why. "Let's be official" - again, lol why. This leads to two outcomes: 1. They realise I'm not going to be a whipped little beta like every other guy in their lives. Some enjoy the dynamic for a while, meani…
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 03:55 AM
3

It's hard to wake them up, they see us having fun and either think: 1. That's unrealistic, I could never do that. 2. He's damaged and must be hurting on the inside to feel the need to live such an enjoyable life.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 01:50 AM
2

Right!?! They all come back with shit like "that actually sounds better, but it's not realistic". When I ask why they go on about having to grow up and you can't just muck around forever. Thing is, I earn double what any of their Blue Pilled asses earn. Focus when you're working, fuck around when you're not, why is this so hard to understand?
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 10:44 PM
3

I was explaining this idea to my Blue Pilled friends recently and they thought it was weird as fuck. Exclude the marriage, but imagine just living with mates all your life: you'd be able to have a sick time, complete freedom, bit of a party house, drinking, pool/cinema/games rooms, no fucking useless woman furniture and formal lounge rooms, no kids, no woman taking your money. Why is this weird? You get companionship from your friend. You get sex casually and from brothels if needed. If you want…
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:32 PM
1

I don't necessarily agree with family being inherently bad. One side of my family are insanely supportive, want me to succeed, don't pressure me in any way. They're lower class financially, and are just happy that I seem to enjoy working/was the first (only) grand kid/nephew with college education. The other side are wealthier and more formal. They're all about pressuring me to be religious, pressuring me to settle down, pressuring me to take the safe, conservative option. I still remember at my…
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:28 PM
6

This is 100% correct, all about status
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:24 PM
4

Bachelor's Tax? Any word on what that will consist of? Sounds horrible.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:16 PM
15

Pathetic men are desperate
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:15 PM
24

I just come at them direct. "Why would I want to marry someone? Giving up at least 50% of my decision making capability, giving up more than 50% of my money, settling down into some boring life waking up at 4am with shitty kids every day - and even then, I'm a 50% chance of copping a divorce"
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:12 PM
1

Of course. No one worth spending any time with, but it's good for getting laid.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:10 PM
127

The Simps are the worst, no one will ever learn to be different if you keep validating their shitty, whore-ish behaviour
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:09 PM
3

They are, but imagine if they ALSO physically felt better, that would make it a no contest
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 07:36 PM
1

Clearly you must be damaged or unloveable if you're not looking to get married - I've gotten both reactions.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 07:34 PM
6

Woah, they're getting realistic... With scientists working on this, these robots could become even better than the real thing.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 11:50 AM
3

Women are creepy little attention hoarders...
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 11:49 AM
8

Right!?! As though being alone carries all of their current negatives and none of the positives. Many people just aren't comfortable having full control over their lives - This way it's like they still have a parent giving them pocket money on their salaries.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 11:46 AM
7

Crazy how in order to receive validation, she actually needs to achieve something now.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 11:44 AM
28

Love is just something you fake for money <3
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 10:20 AM
61

Marriages are worthwhile because I want more money!
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 09:47 AM
16

I just want you to know - you're not a monster. You're not depraved, you're not broken, you're not evil, you're not a bad person & you're not dangerous. However, if she's going to treat you like shit, you owe her nothing. Do your own thing, a monster wouldn't babysit, so maybe you need to treat her like shit a bit to make her appreciate how good you really are. Tbh man, life is amazing once you finish school. It's hard now because you're powerless, but it gets awesome, especially if you're MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:17 AM
1

Shit dude, I'm the same. Even worse though, whenever I have a casual fling with a decent looking chick, I have this 2-3 day spurt of what I imagine love is, before becoming borderline repulsed by the woman in question. The key is to be 100% selfish. Don't do anything for a girl that you don't want to do. If you follow this, they can't effectively use you or hurt you. If you're with them and it's boring - leave. Don't meet family. They can't put obligations on you, only you can.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:12 AM
27

This frustrates me too man, seeing guys failing to live in freedom because they're too afraid of being alone. If the girls are attractive, I get it... but I have one Blue Pilled mate who dates this disgusting wilderbeast, years older, ex (current) drug addict, loud, obnoxious, doesn't drive, etc. The pathetic thing is he logically understands the single life is better, but still persists with this out of fear of being alone. I don't know how long I can maintain strong friendships with these guys…
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:07 AM
73

That's absolutely insane. Making decisions independently makes you a child? Another shaming tactic
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:04 AM
1

Dude, I love your work. Are there any downsides to the good life? I'm 23 and sometimes wonder whether I'll regret this around your age
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:01 AM
3

When I was Blue Pilled, I had a girlfriend who tried to ban me from any sort of gambling. I was only ever betting on the footy when we were down at the pub having a drink. At 18-19 years old, while in college, her thinking was that I needed to be saving for "our future" instead of spending on anything. I laughed at the idea that she thought she could ban anything and bet whatever I wanted.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:00 AM
1

How old are you? What do you do?
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 06:48 AM
5

I think this is the way MGTOW's are born when they're going MGTOW out of free will. The other type is those who have been screwed over.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 06:48 AM
23

Elevating standards is the first sign of a move towards MGTOW. The less he can put up with women's bullshit, the hotter they have to be to keep him around. Eventually, the bubble bursts and women just aren't worth it. At least, that was my experience anyway...
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 04:09 AM
3

God it's shitty being in the same generation as these 18-30's. So many snowflakes. I'd love to see them all shaken up, like a 6 month zombie apocalypse to remind them no one owes them respect or any liberties.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 09:00 PM
7

Totally agree - I had one LTR and felt like I was wasting my time for the duration. You've got once chance at life, do you seriously want to spend it complacently doing what everyone else is doing? I also think tying your fate to another persons is incredibly weak. By getting married, you're saying to the world that you're not comfortable being in control of your own life.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:56 PM
3

Disturbing, I hope she ended up copping some street justice after that
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 07:44 PM
5

Women generally get assigned all of the soft, intangible skills because people who want to believe women are equal to men, need to believe they're superior in at least some ways...
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 01:28 PM
15

That's fucking disgusting. The legal system is putrid. Also, of course the fucking parasite had money for lawyers but needed the child support from the non-father. I'm never touching this shit.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 01:18 PM
42

Crazy to think that people willingly give up their freedom in this way, disturbing even.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:27 PM
6

Holy shit, yeah that'd do it. Did the word get out? Any consequences?
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:25 PM
6

Fair call, to be honest part of the reason for posting was that I'm a freshie & wanted to express my view
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:24 PM
6

I enjoy the money, hahaha
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 10:20 AM
14

Nothing more disgusting than back fat... Sounds absolutely putrid. Imagine coming home to a smelly, jiggly wilderbeast that spends 80% of your paycheque while lazing around all day...
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:56 AM
6

Yeah, I've heard that from a few of the older blokes around. Still 23, so I'm not seeing that decline in desire yet. The risks are bad, they've always been bad. But the lack of consistent upside shattered any reasoning for taking such a heavy risk.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:51 AM
4

I love how their reaction to anything physical is always to fall in a heap & scream "AAAAH IM JUST A HELPLESS WOMAN SOMEONE HELP ME, PLEASE ANY MAN HELP ME"
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:43 AM
2

Good stuff man! Sounds like you've got a pretty clear vision of what you want. Try to attach your studies to that - this is the shitty bit, once you're in the program you're doing what you really want to do.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:41 AM
133

"Look honey, we're not missing out on anything, I LET YOU see your friends once a month"
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:34 AM
6

No, there's arrangements where both parties are satisfied with what they're receiving for their inputs though.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:33 AM
2

I had a similar problem at uni - smart enough, but totally incapable of fighting my procrastination. Give yourself an ultimatum: "If I don't pass all of my subjects, I'm dropping out of college (uni) and doing some real work for 12 months" - think like hard labouring. Worst case scenario, you make some money doing a bit of labouring. Best case, it wakes you the fuck up and you crush it. Side point: College grades mean jack shit. I was a P's get degrees guy and I make 6 figures 18 months out of c…
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:16 AM
281

Hahahaha, these people are so desperate for everyone to conform to the complacent misery they've made for themselves
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:11 AM
3

Hilarious how any woman who has any sort of career DEMANDS that prospective men match their salaries at a minimum, match their education at a minimum and are physically attractive. Let me get this straight. She's desperate, mediocre & unattractive, but she deserves someone who exceeds her in every way? Not a chance in the world. Men have time, even if we do want to marry, we can wait as long as it takes to find the right chick. Last time I checked, most guys aren't into chubby, aging midgets.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 08:01 AM
7

What a parasite - take take take.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 05:48 AM
11

Absolutely brutal.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 05:46 AM
60

I only made Reddit so that I could join MGTOW, great community, some really empowering stuff here.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 05:45 AM
9

MGTOW isn't a forum about hobbies, it's a forum for discussion about the MGTOW philosophy. Attitudes towards women are a major part of that and will be discussed. Anyone who's surprised by this is clearly lacking in the brains department.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 05:44 AM
20

The worst thing about these posts is how EAGER all of the other women are to view themselves as victims.
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 02:28 AM
3

"Every girl is a queen, every girl deserves better, every girl is strong, smart & funny" As a 23 year old guy who grew up fairly wealthy (social circles filled with spoiled girls) I just speak my mind. My circle of friends love & respect it, some other people think I'm weird or just a cunt. I do alright with girls, but my primary stream is Tinder, which is kinda lame. I'd like to get better at picking up in person, but like you said, you're shamed and attacked if you approach the wrong chick, so…
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 10:18 PM
1

I'm the same as you. I think the key is to start by doing things that have some upside. Here's what's worked for me: 1. Work multiple jobs + sport (money, fitness, validation) 2. Sports off season rolls around (or you leave one job) - reallocate the time you're already used to using productively towards something you enjoy. You've got to force yourself to see time as valuable.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 10:13 PM
11

I'd say some of us have gone MGTOW without even going through severe hardship. Personally I've never been wronged in any major way by a woman or had pro-female views seriously effect my life. The reason for MGTOW is freedom in my eyes, I refuse to give away even 1% of my freedom for the depreciating asset that is a woman.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 10:07 PM
8

Nothing worse than a sloppy ham sandwich down there
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 12:43 PM
140

Same rules that apply when a child hits you. Women are children.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 12:42 PM
20

Women & their fucking power plays - pathetic.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 12:42 PM
5

I think following trends and buying what you're told to buy based on no other reasoning is super lame. Saying that, I respect people who seek out a certain style/make of shoe and acquire it. Eg: buying nice leather shoes in Italy. Personally I own nice shoes for work (corporate), nice shoes for rugby, decent shoes for basketball, high quality 7 y/o shoes for hikes/outdoors & super cheap shoes for everything else.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 12:39 PM
1

Wow, assuming her gender? You are scum. Edit: I mean, it's gender.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 04:59 AM
2

Only been graduated for 18 months, but if you're passionate about business, a Business Degree is useful. I work in IT Sales full time and Consult on the side doing data analytics. It would be insufferable work for some, but I really enjoy it. Plus $$$$$. My degree was Business double majoring in Economics & Marketing. The degree itself was 85% useless, but having a degree means I'm hired/promoted/trusted over far more experienced candidates. One regret I have is that I didn't try to start any bu…
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:24 AM
26

This is actually devastating. I've got an uncle who's been raped by family court. He rages about it and everyone just writes him off as a bitter old crazy man. No one wants to hear about a man being the victim.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:19 AM
3

I don't know if you'd call it a hobby, but I'm a mad stat nerd. Get right into my sports analytics & fantasy sports, as well as doing some consultancy analysing numbers for small businesses as a side to my main job. I just love twisting numbers & using them to make points - especially useful in debating feminists.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:18 AM
1

I saw that study, women are delusional: something like 80% of men are perceived as below average. I specified in the original post that I was more talking about girls who are 8+ out of 10.
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 02:12 AM
1

I enjoy the shit out of Two & A Half Men. Even when he's trying to be a boring relationship guy, Charlie is so red-pilled with his own liberties that he just can't help but be completely free. Meanwhile Alan epitomises Blue Pill patheticness.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:33 PM
6

Quota hires in construction are disgusting. I've heard of roles where they've been forced to hire women, so the women just ride along with a bloke and sit in the car while the bloke does the job. My uncle was telling me that once, this woman being paid to ride along, complained to HR because the bloke would just take a piss on the side of the road (not a lot of bathrooms around). Not only was she useless, she was actually being paid to make things worse.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:19 PM
3

No surprise, no quarrels... I can see why they'd prefer muscular, well off guys.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:15 PM
11

I've seen screenshots from guys who aren't particularly tall, but have girlfriends who clearly don't respect their height. In this one thread, a chick was asking her boyfriend if they could get a sperm donor to impregnate her because she didn't want her kids to be short like him.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:03 PM
1

Even in a Blue Pilled state, I never took this type of bullshit. Bitches can get fucked if they think they're going to create some big scene and get pandered to because of it.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 08:01 PM
3

Meh, let them GTOW, none of them will be able to maintain it long term.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:55 PM
29

He's asking for a superficial hookup, she's asking a superficial question to qualify him. This bitch isn't the problem, it's the ones who date shorter guys and fuck with their self esteem once in a relationship with them.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:51 PM
2

I can only speak from LTR (no marriage) experience, but in the rare situation where my needs weren't being met, I withdrew practically everything from my end. She'd bitch & moan, but fairly quickly understood the transactional nature of our relationship.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:46 PM
86

The materialistic side of Christmas would die, but the experience based side of Christmas would explode
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 11:38 AM
3

I genuinely respect that, however the majority of religious people are just backing the religious they were raised with - my question is more to that majority
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 11:36 AM
-2

In my opinion, MGTOW is about not believing everything you're told. It's about questioning the indoctrination we've faced and often rebelling against it. Genuinely curious - How can you remain with your indoctrinated religion when you have this mindset?
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 10:24 AM
1

Humans like shows that portray idealised versions of their existence. Men generically like watching sports, action films, etc because the ideal versions of ourselves are heros who step up in clutch time. Women watch shows where other women are victims but they're still super perfect DON'T FORGET THEY'RE PERFECT even when they're not perfect they're amazing queens omg and cute boys like them. Women have no aspirations outside of social validation, whereas most men deep down want to be heros.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:06 AM
15

I've got no hate for a woman like this. She's very attractive, but most likely deficient in all other areas. She uses her looks to get what she wants, which is just playing the hand she's been dealt. In the same way, a guy who is average intelligence but a smooth talker will often outperform a smarter person who can't speak well in a business environment. Life is all about using what you have to get what/where you want. Admittedly she's chasing stupid goals (sexless companionship) but who cares.…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 09:00 AM
2

So many women work admin jobs and wrongly believe they're wildly successful.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:29 AM
1

Go have sex. Fuck bro, relationships aren't necessary for sex.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:26 AM
3

Dude, this! They're always keen to blame your different life philosophy on you "getting hurt" or you "not being able to pull". These people genuinely believe it's not possible to just decide that relationships aren't worth the work.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:16 AM
1

Ehhh, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here and argue something different. 23 here too, if we were mates, I would be keen to help you get laid. The reason being - it would remove the mystery. Choosing MGTOW from a position of not being able to get girls isn't really a choice... But choosing MGTOW from a position of being fully capable with women, however realising that they're still insufferable cunts not worth the work is empowering. Saying that, do whatever makes you happy brother.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:14 AM
5

Not really, no. All of my friends agree with MGTOW in theory and idolise bachelor lifestyle, but none of them actually enact the life they want. They're all pathetic, validation seeking, relationship dependent losers when it comes to this type of thing.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 07:00 AM
5

I've got a bit of sympathy for you man. Coming into this space and anonymously attacking everyone's sexual capabilities. You've got some issues, might be time to go away by yourself and work through them. Ironically, you'd be the kind of guy who could benefit from a temporary MGTOW mindset.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:57 AM
3

"Happy wife, happy life bro" Such a carefree acceptance of your lifetime imprisonment. Poor cunt's trying so hard to get you to agree though, he'll never figure out his mistake.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:53 AM
4

Imo you need to sleep with a few girls you don't care about. Right now women are these mystical creatures you know nothing about - you need to remove the veil. From there, you can make decisions from a position of stronger understanding.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:40 AM
15

Check this out, sounds like this man has died & gone to hell: "Mine told me two days ago that she wanted to have sex. That night I eagerly take a shower and climb into bed. I start rubbing her. She says stop. I’m tired. I said but I thought... she said if I promise I’ll do it tomorrow will you let me sleep? I guess but tomorrow your family is visiting and staying the night. She said since when has that stopped us. So the next night we’re in bed and she’s only wearing a thong. I start rubbing her…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:38 AM
2

Sigh, yes, you're such a strong alpha man, so proud of you and your belief in equality. Just ignore all of the statistics that indicate one gender outperforms the other. Follow your social conditioning - women are strong, smart & funny. On a side note, a good percentage of the guys here have and do have relations with women on some level. It's not a case of no one wanting an MGTOW, it's just a case of the guys here having a different set of priorities to someone like yourself.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:30 AM
22

I'm generally happy to pay on the first date. Saying that, I tend to date younger, so part of my sexual offering is the illusion of financial stability. The trick is not to keep any of them around long enough that they start expecting gifts and shit.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 05:48 AM
0

Spot on, completely agree with you. I think I'll stick with fairly regular casual sex, as well as maybe bringing in the occasional brothel visit. Right now though, I'm fairly obsessed with amassing wealth, so burning hundreds of dollars in an hour doesn't appeal, haha.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 01:54 AM
4

I'd honestly probably just say no straight up. Wouldn't blame you if you felt the need to make up some excuse to avoid the conflict. Fucking doing things you don't want to do.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 01:44 AM
2

Work in sales, develop your shit talking skills, get good at convincing people of things, then use that to follow whatever passions/ideas come up
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 01:40 AM
1

She'll be stuck in the infinite time loop of cheating on guys with shittier and shittier men. She'll end up being cheated on a bunch too. Sleep well knowing that one day she'll wake up and realise how terrible her life is, while you're self aware enough to look inwardly and question your own life & motivations.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 01:34 AM
3

There have been studies done into your last statement with online dating. Women perceive 80% of men as below average. Men rate women on a near perfect bell curve. Apparently the bottom 78% of men are competing for the bottom 22% of women on apps like tinder, where the top 78% of women all believe they deserve the top 22% of men. Solution is simple. Either: 1. Stop caring, do your own thing. 2. Become a top 22% guy. 3. Hit a niche in the market, be unique, you'll be in some decent chicks top 22% …
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 01:32 AM
2

True, but knowing this doesn't stop it from being enjoyable. The other side of this is, by having casual sex, my friends (some definitely better looking than me) start to realise they don't need to stick with a demanding girlfriend to get sex 1-2 times a week. It's a bit of an MGTOW conversion tool. 23 now, I know eventually I'll stop caring about converting others though, haha.
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 12:04 AM
2

Nah mate, not about bitterness. I'm 23, had one 5 year relationship and I just felt myself falling into this pit of complacency. In comparison, when I'm single, I'm crazily ambitious. I love the person I am single. I hate the person I become in relationships. Saying that, I have no doubt that I could be happy and comfortable living a life like yours, but that just isn't enough to satisfy me personally. Someone said to me the other day "you can have it all, but not all at once" - we're just choos…
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 12:01 AM
1

Weakness & victimhood is power in modern society. This is why wealthy, healthy, white men are shamed in the public domain - because historically, they're not victims, they're powerful.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:51 PM
12

The female obliviousness to how mutually beneficial arrangements work completely baffles me. You expect X, Y & Z from a man, so you must provide A, B & C in return. If you withdraw your side, you should expect him to withdraw his. Unfortunately these women believe their very existence justifies these men working long hard days, so that they can sit on their fat asses gorging themselves with food & doing nothing else.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:49 PM
3

Disgusting - if you don't look good, it really doesn't matter how experienced or skilled you are.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:43 PM
5

I don't think the majority here are saying it's completely impossible to have a good 10 year relationship, however it is extremely unlikely. For every 100 women like your wife, 90+ will change into something else. You're a lucky man, congratulations, you're having fun. However, most of us here just don't think the upside to what you're doing is worth the risk. Outside of that, MGTOW is about choosing freedom. You've got a wife, family & kids. Your freedom is limited when compared to an MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:31 PM
2

I'm still a little blue pulled in that I gain validation through casual sex. Prostitution is a great practical solution, but it doesn't provide the ego boost I get from unpaid casual sex.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 11:23 PM
1

He continues to make a poor decision...
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 09:31 PM
4

What a pathetic loser. You can never give a woman money for nothing, never set that precedent. Once the precedent is set, she expects you to provide financial support for her permanently. Or even better, don't tie yourself down with one of these children.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 09:01 PM
6

Women don't understand the concept of having hobbies and passions. 90%+ of them are completely incapable of entertaining themselves - they just consume endless streams of mind numbing media in the form of Instagram, Netflix, Facebook, etc.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 08:30 PM
4

Totally agree, even the phrase "getting in" demonstrates that type of thought. Like she's some sort of gate keeper and you have to impress her to get where you want to go.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 04:40 AM
8

This is so accurate - 10/10 The problem is, so many men are conditioned to believe that they're "punching", that they're lucky to have a girl, that they don't deserve the girl they've got...
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 04:30 AM
16

I've been attacked for arguing against this type of expectations on men. Basically, my point has always been "if I'm paying to fly you out, house & entertain you, I expect you to do everything I ask". If you don't want to be obliged to do what I want, then pay for yourself you goddamn parasite. Really it's all hypothetical though, I work too hard to be giving my money to random sluts.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 12:31 AM
3

Never give away your power. He learned this the hard way.
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 12:21 AM
3

Thank you for sharing, that was incredible
/r/MGTOW19/11/17 12:08 AM
1

Ahh, well there goes that plan
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:53 PM
8

It's incredible isn't it. A man without a woman will enjoy a plethora of excess income across his life
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:54 PM
23

I love how women use the "that's just the way things are" to justify things that they enjoy. I've had this debate with a few chicks I've been seeing. Essentially I say I'm okay with paying if I'm paying for their time. If I'm paying for their time, they're a prostitute and they need to do whatever I want. Mostly just get called a dick.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:52 PM
39

Parasites, the lot of them.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:49 PM
3

The MFM threesome isn't about the woman, it's about banging a chick with your mate. If a guy wants to share his own chick, he's a pathetic broken man. But if you and a friend want to bang some disgusting slut together, I think that's just wanting to do things with your mates.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:48 PM
3

Truth, I tend to intentionally be a bit unreliable & don't do anything that I don't want to do (meeting her friends/family, seeing her when it's not about sex), so they get to think they've discovered that I'm not relationship material & move to the next orbiting beta. Occasionally one thinks that they can change you, I tend to just sprout bullshit about how I'm not ready & won't be for years.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:46 PM
1

I wonder what traits they desire. Do you think a healthy, tall, white man with a high IQ would be able to sleep his way through this country as a bit of a sperm donor? Haha
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:42 PM
27

I've got a friend who is forced to do all of this expensive bullshit by his girlfriend. Overseas holidays with her family where he has to pay, going to the races, taking her (and sometimes even her friends) to fancy restaurants. The more it goes in this direction, the less respect I have for him. He really doesn't earn enough money to blow it on this crap either.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 10:40 PM
2

Yes, yes, a girl tells you about her father dying and you make it about yourself. So empowered. Women are so kind and empathetic.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 02:03 PM
1

Holy fuck, hearing that thing brings back memories. I feel like we've all been through exactly this type of situation. The way they flick between pathetic vulnerability and violent threats is insane.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 02:00 PM
1

Yes, of course, wanting to be independent & free must mean you hate women. Everything victimises women somehow.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:52 PM
3

I was explaining this to my younger sister earlier today. Men have all the leverage in finding long term relationships, because not many men want long term while all women do. On the other hand, women have ALL the leverage in casual flings, since most men want casual, while next to no women do. I won't be giving up my freedom for anyone.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:49 PM
1

Funny how a shortage of wealthy, college educated women was never a problem when the men were out-earning women. Just shows how superficial women are.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:45 PM
1

Oh what a joy, men get to marry professional victims majoring in gender studies.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:41 PM
2

Hahahaha, I'd tell you to run away, but it seems you've beaten me to that.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:38 PM
2

The guy: "I just want everyone to know that there’s definitely a difference between saying someone is “disgusting” and saying that “I think it’s disgusting and unattractive when girls try to blackout every weekend and get uncontrollably drunk” don’t take something out of context" Her: "Baker admitted that she didn’t expect the post to go viral, but she’s apparently happy that it helped some women/ “I’ve gotten messages from woman telling me they were in awful and abusive relationships." Always t…
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:27 PM
1

Money triggered me to go MGTOW. Since finishing college, I've enjoyed working on my career. However I can't think of anything worse than having my money going towards anything but funding my own freedom. How a man could go to work each day to have a parasitic woman controlling the money, making all of the decisions for the house and nagging constantly is beyond me.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:24 PM
3

Playing cards & drinking with relatives I see about twice a year. Outside of that, I've been learning how to create/edit videos so that I can make sports analysis videos. Have guest written for a few different sites, but I definitely prefer the video platform. More just a hobby with an eye towards monetizing in the future.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:21 PM
1

I had an ex through high school who was craaaaazy. Bi-polar, depression, all that. Sometimes we'd argue, sometimes I'd say bad things, mostly she'd say bad things. I have this super minor fear that she'd scroll back through and take quotes out of context, making me look like some kind of emotionally abusive monster.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:16 PM
1

Totally agree, this is the one thing they're good at
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:14 PM
1

Typical that the courts didn't ask the disgusting slut whether she'd tried to work with him on a mutual agreement. What a disgusting parasite.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:08 PM
1

I'm not where I want to be yet, but I've always known I'd want to work in an Analytical Business Role. So far, the things I've done to improve my offering, and in turn, earnings are: - Business Degree in Economics & Marketing. - Worked in tutoring/teaching roles through Uni, making the transition into leading teams and training others extremely easy. - Opted for Commission inclusive roles, where wages are a lot higher if you're performing. - Gotten certified in presentation & sales strategies. -…
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 01:04 PM
2

"When it comes to hardcore sexual harassment, let alone assault, men know. Believe me, they know that it’s outside the frame of civil or even legal behaviour. They want to harass anyway. They think they can get away with it." Men are calculated, evil monsters out to get us all. Sigh.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:56 PM
5

“I was there — I know he killed himself,” she said. “But I mean (the police) have to investigate ... I’m dealing with post-­traumatic stress because I was the one that found him.” I... I... I... Me... Me... ME... MEEEEE... MEEEEEEEE!!!!
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:35 PM
2

This is your chance for freedom, the only expiry on your chance to do whatever you want with your life is death.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:32 PM
2

Monk mode is complete mental independence, particularly pertaining to decision making. Imo, you can keep casually dating, as long as you put yourself and your freedom above all else. No negotiation. No compromise.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:26 PM
2

Spot on - There are intangible upsides, but they're a logically poor choice.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:22 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with buying hookers, just as there's nothing wrong with casually dating. In one arena, you exchange money for sex. In the other, you exchange time and a little bit of money (at least while you're courting) for sex. I figure my time is worth $X an hour. If I was absolutely balling, and it ended up being a better deal to do hookers instead of wasting time dating, I'd jump across to that for sure. Saying that, no matter what, all of these relationships are transactional.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:21 PM
2

This is disgusting. Imagine if you had 100 candidates and the best 20 were men, with the 21st best being a woman, but you needed to satisfy your quota. Do you pick the 1st, 2nd, 3rd... best person for the job, or do you take the 21st best and reduce the quality of your government so that you can satisfy your desire to virtue signal?
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:16 PM
1

Time to re-focus. Develop a skill and utilize it to earn more money. Once you've done this, you'll be able to work a little less for the same money. Keep doing this and you'll eventually be able to earn the money you earn now in much less time.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:09 PM
1

I hate this "whoever asks for the date should pay" justification. You're only saying this because being an average looking woman under 30, you're always getting asked out. Just be straight up for once in your miserable fucking lives and say YOU don't want to pay.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:06 PM
1

For real? These women are crazy. I was considering donating sperm to satisfy my biological drive to reproduce, but if this type of thing is happening...
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:03 PM
2

Is this legitimate? Holy fuck.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 12:00 PM
1

The relationship exchange is broken. I grew up believing that as a man, you provide protection, security & finance to a woman, while she provides sex, home maintenance and subservience in return. Women have pulled all three, while still expecting to receive what they've always received. Good luck to them, but I'm not signing up.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:59 AM
1

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think people who aren't working should be paid less than minimum wage and should be made to attend interviews, as well as doing community service. Noone should be allowed to bludge off the taxes of people who work.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:55 AM
2

He needs to choose MGTOW (freedom) himself, you can't force it on him. If he was going to change his mind without some earth-shattering event, it needed to be well before this stage. I feel like the only way we can convert others to this lifestyle is living exceptional lives. If our mates are seeing us having a good time, they'll consider going MGTOW too.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:40 AM
3

"It always felt like he was trying to get me into bed like he did in the beginning even though we were technically boyfriend and girlfriend and he really shouldn’t have to worry about that anymore." This bitch is straight up stating that sex is something she uses at the start of the relationship to get commitment, before pulling it back. "there comes a time in every relationship where you should move past that into doing other things that allow you to connect on a deeper level, like having intim…
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:16 AM
3

Women aren't thinking of you when they attack your appearance, they're thinking of themselves. Here's why. In attacking a man's appearance, a woman is placing herself above that male in the sexual offering hierarchy. If the other women in the tribe agree with her view, she then accepts that she is better than that male. Anecdotal evidence, but this is proven by the fact that I've slept with multiple girls who have given me the "eww no" treatment. She's not calling you ugly because you're ugly, s…
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:10 AM
2

Women make men complacent and weak. If you want to transform your life, it's best not to allow yourself to be comfortable with a woman. Saying that, extremely casual relations with no emotion, stability or expectation don't hurt in my experience. As long as you don't feel like you can rely on that woman for anything.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:07 AM
2

That makes a lot of sense. Alternatively, women could've evolved to be smaller and more submissive, because the ones who were big enough to kill their partners didn't survive long enough to raise their offspring without partner support.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 11:05 AM
1

As an economist, I hate the word "fair". You're worth what you're paid. If you believe you're worth more, find someone who's willing to pay you more. If noone's willing to pay you more, you're not worth more.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 09:42 AM
6

Walk up to 5 men in the park and you'll land an 80% conversation rate on the single blokes if you're willing to stop being such a passenger and ask them out yourself. Full disclosure, I didn't read 90% of her dribble, think I got the gist though.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 09:36 AM
2

These issues are accelerating at an insane rate. I'm only 6 years older than you and didn't experience/see anything like this during high school. The glorification of victimhood and accusations is pathetic.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 09:29 AM
6

Sounds like a weak child who is grasping for anything/anyone to blame, except for herself.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 09:26 AM
1

Maybe. So do you believe there's no value in mentoring others and being invested in their successes?
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 09:20 AM
2

Ehh, yes & no. I enjoy big (low end brand) TV's, fast cars (not necessarily luxury), and other somewhat expensive things that provide me functional enjoyment. Saying that, I'm super minimalist when it comes to clothing, furniture, and other items that are really only there for appearances. I tend to shoot on the cheap end for food, and bring my own coffee to work instead of paying for it each day.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:55 AM
4

I gave her exactly what she asked for. Once I dated this girl who was all about fake break ups and acting like nothing had happened the next day. This one time, she told me it was over and I should go to "your other bitches", so I went out that night and fucked some chick. Never told her about it because I decided to accept her break up. She went on to grovel for about 3-6 months, giving me whatever I wanted sexually without me having to lift a finger. Anyway, that FWB type arrangement ended whe…
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:51 AM
3

Yeah, height as a measure of power is psychotically superficial. Straight up, I'm 6'2 and take no pride in "you're so tall". I'm sure it's the same for even taller guys.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:44 AM
3

Right!?! The number of them who mistake being annoying children for having a great sense of humour is astronomical.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:40 AM
2

Sex isn't that hard to find. I'm going to call myself a 5-7 out of 10 (5 for girls who like fashionable metro guys, 7 for girls who just want a big dude) and I get it as much as I want it without committing. I've only been single for about 2 years, so my game isn't anything special. Shit's easy once you realize women are weak validation seekers & deep down don't want to be in control.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:39 AM
0

Ehh, yes & no - I'm MGTOW, but I can see some appeal to having children later in life. Sure, they kamikaze your lifestyle, cause you to have to work an additional 10 years minimum and mean you're tied to some psychotic woman who's been physically & hormonally ravaged by childbirth. However, there's this little bit of fulfillment you could get from raising good kids that you can't really get anywhere else. Kids aren't logically worthwhile, but I can see why someone would do it.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:33 AM
2

The type of guy who is weak & available enough to do all of these things is the type of guy who is achieving nothing in their lives. It's a paradox really, they want a successful guy. However they want this guy to drop all of his passions and make them first priority, therefore destroying his success. It's impossible to satisfy women long term in the way they demand.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:21 AM
5

There's nothing more insufferable than watching these parasites making common sense statements, then waiting for the empty husks of human beings in the audience to burst out in applause.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:17 AM
9

Why the hell would any man want to destroy his home with some woman's psychosis?
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:12 AM
3

Ehh, do you really think so? I was in a 5 year relationship (admittedly 16-21 y/o) and the sex was constant, as in minimum once each time we saw eachother. I do think it'd be different getting older though. I've got a mate who talks about how him & his girlfriend "choose" to reduce sex to 1-2 times a week to keep it exciting. I only see it going downhill, they're only 22 now...
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 07:08 AM
3

MGTOW is the the decision of valuing freedom above all else. It is the highest level of empowerment.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 06:55 AM
2

Sounds like the men are realising these women are boring, self-absorbed, useless attention sponges. Personally, I hold women to the same standards as I hold men to. I don't like talking to boring people without hobbies and I certainly don't like to "chase" people, so naturally I end up speaking to far, far more men than women.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 06:54 AM
12

Always selfish motivations "I want grandkids", "I want you to be normal", "I can't show my face at the YMCA I go to" Even when discussing his life choices, it's all about her.
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 06:47 AM
7

"I don't need men, therefore they have no purpose & shouldn't exist" How about women stop evaluating men's right to exist based on what they're being provided by men? I know the comic is a joke, but this mentality viewing men as resources pisses me off beyond belief.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 04:09 PM
17

Spot on, the joy I felt when I realised your entire life could be build on a foundation of freedom was incomparable. Before realising marriage wasn't compulsory, I always feared running out of fun time.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:14 AM
3

You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. This sub-reddit is about a lifestyle choice and your questions are about demonising women. Do you have a fundamental problem with men saying no to marriage, kids & a life spent working for someone else? The fundamental purpose of MGTOW is freedom.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:47 AM
18

Exactly, the work isn't worth the payoff in modern relationships.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:45 AM
2

I have an all or nothing approach to life these days. Right now, I work about 60 hours a week, however this is almost entirely spread across weekdays. This means that I've got zero time on weekdays, but zero responsibilities across the weekend. I do this because eventually I want to shift away from this ALL approach to a NOTHING approach. Being 23 now, my goal is to achieve financial independence by 35. Marriage, kids & a parasitic spouse don't fit into this plan - they're far too expensive and …
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:42 AM
2

Totally agree, I just sat down in front of the tv to put my shoes on, that was more than enough exposure to the waste dribbling forth.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:12 AM
2

If they looked like this in person, it wouldn't be such a bad thing. The problem is, they're putting in hours of photoshop, makeup & angling to get that look. You meet these women in real life & they're generally lumpy, stumpy little divas.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 11:06 PM
2

Got about 8 lines in and felt my brain turning to mush. The only thing this type of post achieves is alienating men who are trying to be "allies". Keep calling us all rapists & part of the problem, eventually we'll just stop caring.
/r/MGTOW216/11/17 10:55 PM
1

It's insane isn't it? A child has the power to destroy your life if you don't please her. If the sex is dropping off now, its as good as gone when you're married... Why persist having a sexless friendship with a crazy chick?
/r/MGTOW216/11/17 10:30 AM
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