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You’re wealthy bro, why subject yourself to hard work and struggle like everyone else? The only reasons I can think you may want to find a career is because you fear your dads money will run out. That or you don’t have the social status you desire due to having no real accomplishments. Having money doesn’t stop you from getting in shape, staying healthy and finding a hobby you enjoy. It seems like you have the freedom to pursue whatever you want so do that. You don’t need “drive” to do stuff you…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 11:51 PM
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I too am EXTREMELY curious
/r/TheRedPill27/01/23 03:21 AM
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There is no objective reason you can give why getting laid as much as possible is a bad life goal if it satisfies the individual. Same way you can’t give any objective reason why one’s life goal can’t be centered around eating breakfast. There is no discernible reason behind anything because you cannot comprehend why anything exists. Nor any objective way of measuring the value of anything. Positing that starting a family and being a leader in your community is somehow inherently valuable is onl…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/23 10:58 PM
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I’ve done a lot of research into Alan Watts and watched that video years ago, I’ll give it another watch and see if I learn anything new. I’ve done a lot of research into Eckhart Tolle too but have never seen that video. If I have any takeaways I’ll let you know, thanks for following up.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/23 04:52 PM
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When I first went out to do cold approach I went out with friends who were also interested. Of course we made excuses but we wouldn’t allow each other to do it. Having other guys who will push you beyond your own limitations and call you out for your weaknesses is a great way to make progress
/r/TheRedPill21/01/23 04:12 PM
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Life isn’t rational. It’s just happening and you’re here in it. You probably don’t have any free will or any semblance of what people deem to be a free will. You are in weird situation being human and expecting meaning is a silly game people play when things are going alright for them. You stated what would fulfill you but also said you can’t do it. idk what you need to do and I’m sure you don’t like the idea of going to prison but the world doesn’t have to be any particular way. Those at the to…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/23 04:07 PM
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Link some videos man, I’m bedridden rn, could use some stuff to think about
/r/TheRedPill20/01/23 08:53 PM
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It’s hilarious you are literally arguing that men hold women back sorry to break it to you, men are primarily interested in holding other men back so they can have enough resources to be attractive to women for reproduction. Yet men are not allowed to complain about it, they just have to “man up” and compete. I won’t be reading your response, you’ve done enough responding. I will leave you with a quote instead. “If you have to be given your freedom, you aren’t free.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:49 PM
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These are paragraphs of excuses men were never allowed to make hence why they achieve more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:46 PM
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Everybody is playing the game most people just aren’t aware of it Being aware of the game you’re playing usually has no bearing on your status after the first few weeks of practicing and being awkward while you try new things People who are naturally socially successful have less of a reason to seek out information to improve Duh People learning social skills may level or surpass them via knowledge even though they began at a lower level People in these subs are only seen as low status because w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:32 PM
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Anyone who understands social dominance theories enough is not going to come off as low status
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:26 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:47 PM
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Yeah you’re right My point is that wanting a relationship and spinning plates are not incompatible at all Attractive men will pick from a larger pool of potential suitors and spinning plates is a preliminary step to separating who is potentially relationship material from who isn’t Men who don’t spin plates are usually more relationship focused out of scarcity not because of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:42 PM
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I guess I conflate a guy not wanting to spin plates with niceness Not buying that a guy who spins plates is somehow less attractive for having options Having options is not incompatible with wanting a relationship The relationship focused man will likely be spinning more not less plates
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:35 PM
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What he’s saying is that every woman says they want a nice guy but when studied as well as in real life. This is rarely how women actually choose, with niceness generally taking the backseat to other valued characteristics. I’m saying it’s bold of you to state your preference for niceness seeing how ubiquitous the knowledge above is. To state that in this sub seems to be inviting a response like that of some sort. All women say they like nice guys, all women aren’t choosing nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:04 PM
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I don’t understand why you are calling this person an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 01:58 PM
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He’s saying that’s a common sentiment that tends not to actually be true. Tbh kind of bold of you to assert that preference in this sub as people here are much less likely to take the desire for a nice guy at face value. Women have a bad habit of lying about their preferences as well as being attracted to men out of their league regardless of looksmatch. Ie: 80/20 hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 01:52 PM
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Yes because bringing up problematic topics is equivalent to hating women Men hate women because when they bring up these topics, women deride them and actively try and negate their experiences and the facts Of reality Women work on average 2/3rds the hours that men do Women go into lower paying professions Women specialize in their professions less Women less competitive in these professions Women choose family over work It’s mans fault because he is oppressing them This is just an example but g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:27 PM
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if you have book recommendations I would be happy to know them as you obviously disagree with me This is not sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:20 PM
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Lmfaooo Yes women en masse promoting a lie Such as 1 in 6, The pay gap, The patriarchy, etc Is not the fault of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:17 PM
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If he wants to report his girlfriend for abuse and is laughed at or arrested for self defense This should not be a problem to him according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:16 PM
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Yeah but if that man brings up that he’s concerned that he’s seen as a default rapist based on a popularized and false study that 1 in 6 women are raped This should not be a problem to him according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:15 PM
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It’s typical womanese I as a woman will dictate to men who must live daily in society as men that the only societal problems that can effect them are at the extremes and if you aren’t being raped in prison or being raped by the court, it isn’t a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:11 PM
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You are putting your inability to empathize with men on full display
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:09 PM
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No you’re work is cool Trying to use it as defense against wider male problems or symptoms that point to problems is the issue The Gillette ad is a symptom of a larger problem yet to you it is irrelevant You don’t have to walk around as a man in daily life dealing with those expectations and contradictions So long as the dude isn’t in prison who cares If he gets fired for brushing too close to a coworker who claims it was sexual assault that’s just whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:02 PM
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Only the problems women see as problems can be problems thank you we already know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:59 PM
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This has gotta be the most disgusting two faced comment I’ve ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:58 PM
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“I care about male rape in the justice system” Bitch who cares The point is that society doesn’t care and jokes about it and is generally unconcerned with preventing it Yet joke about female rape and see what happens Whether or not you care about men in prison has literally nothing to do with the conversation yet that is the only defense you’ve levied This is the theme of every defense you’ve said hence why I feel unmotivated to argue with you you dont even understand the conversation we’re havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:51 PM
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Literally your argument is that everything men see as a problem should not be a problem Male characters are turned female in the name of women power and seen and labeled as done in the name of making great strides for female advancement and this is no biggie Imagine the backlash if WonderWoman was turned into a man It would be screams of widespread misogyny and female oppression This is the point Rules for thee but no for me And you are blatantly dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:44 PM
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Just to emphasize that is me giving up do to your inability to accurately represent my own point in your reply To say a razor ad is to massively disregard context, and the wider social implications of that company’s willingness to do that and the general media’s narrative around the response and what that means about men who saw the ad as problematic Though I’m sure it’s just about the “razor ad” :,( This sub is this indefinitely Men everywhere are shamed for being men and the wider social syste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:39 PM
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Yeah I’m angry about a razor ad This is a pointless conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:33 PM
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Ok without even trying to refute that, as even if you are 100% correct it doesn’t refute the outcomes of that situation nor the narratives created around gender and gaming as a result That list is more than just gamergate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:22 PM
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Yes it will help you In fact it’s been proven by science that women judge men more aggressively on looks but lie more about it when asked “Disgust Trumps Lust: Women’s Disgust and Attraction Towards Men Is Unaffected by Sexual Arousal” https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0106-8 “The predictive validity of ideal partner preferences: A review and meta-analysis.” https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0032432 “70% of women would avoid someone solely based on their looks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 03:45 PM
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You are willfully ignorant Gamergate, Metoo, Believeallwomen, Gillette ad ,Pay gap lie, The 1 in 6 lie, The idea that violence against women is common and normal in the west, Women initiate 70% of domestic abuse cases yet receive the most domestic abuse support, massively uneven distribution of federal resources for male issues such as prostate cancer, prison rape, male rape at all, workplace harassment laws that are skewed against men, prison sentence disparity between the genders, turning popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 03:31 PM
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This is deception the anti male media disproves you There is no war because only one side is allowed to attack If men put up any offense, even just walking away and being MGTOW This is framed as toxic masculinity You are being dishonest in your response as is common in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 03:20 PM
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The universe is vast enough to hold both meaning and transaction simultaneously Being human necessitates transaction to get anything Spin a meaning on it if you’d like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 01:25 AM
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Lol remember #believeallwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 11:10 PM
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Congratulations, you lack empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 11:09 PM
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Also sad you think women are so mentally incompetent they are unable to discern whether or not they want to have sex and so must be tricked into doing so I wasn’t aware women had no ability to make their own decisions or lacked any capacity for comprehending their motivations Also Thank you for also assuming I am so brilliant as to consistently mind fuck women into sexual submission
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:53 PM
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Also currently in an exclusive relationship Again with the baseless assumptions...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:45 PM
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Lmao I’ve had more women try to LTR me than you have years on this earth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:44 PM
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Again your only argument is that I must only sleep with low self esteem women Which is an assumption based on a theory that you have yet to prove Not to mention the most common one utilized by women when speaking on this topic Not to mention hundreds of videos of men proving you wrong online
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:43 PM
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Yeah because I’m sure you so have so much experience picking up women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:34 PM
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Lol you say that and then we go out and do it and get laid This is the point You even included the stock argument that it only works on low quality women. Bravo 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:24 PM
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Straw man to avoid his point that the red pill truth of treating women like children is very effective in creating and sustaining attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 05:17 PM
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It is labeled “toxic” precisely because it’s true. Women have a hard time coping with facts that make them look bad so hundreds of replicated and peer reviewed studies, reference experiences, wisdom, repeatable and provable advice that has stood the test of time in the real world, is labeled as “toxic misogyny.” It is a war of attrition and women make wage their attacks with subvert moves filled with subtlety and deception, it is their nature. Instead of accepting the facts of reality, the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 05:15 PM
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Idk but it sounds super gay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 02:05 AM
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Just love her for who she is bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 02:04 AM
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You’re really good at building strawmans so I concede you as a victor as I have neither the training nor the stamina to repeatedly chop them down Remember, Socrates was a criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 01:27 AM
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I never made any attempt to justify bad behavior as you’re sad little straw man suggests It is a fact that the potential greatness of man is inexorably tied to his potential folly It is the hyper male egoism that makes a man want to build a city on Mars It is the same hyper male egoism that makes a man want to be a crime lord tanstaafl, You don’t get one without the other Lastly very many things we accept and revere today were championed by men who were deemed unacceptable or downright criminal …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 12:09 AM
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You only get better at what you practice
/r/TheRedPill06/11/20 11:23 PM
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And the cost is why men dominate in achievement in every field Mediocrity isn’t free
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 10:00 PM
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And then with gender based crimes the argument would be what is worse a few overt crimes that occur rarely towards women (and also tend to include men as victims) or many small crimes that occur constantly that tend to only have men have victims
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:46 PM
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Well that’s what I’m saying. I don’t think there is really a problem of incel gender based crimes It is a rare thing and generally expected because it is a male thing Ie the old addage: there is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper So yeah while there are female serial killers and composers, they are much less common Wasn’t trying to but in so much as point out the two may not be equivocal nor should be expected to be and that virtue cannot be given to individuals simply b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:44 PM
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Edited my comment for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:26 PM
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A mass willingness to buy into someone else’s system IS indicative of female behavior The criticism comes from women not recognizing this and then raising complaints as if they have no agency in the situation As well as the question of whether males should value people who want to be valued for only reproduction, and if so, to what extent The criticisms aren’t so much levied against women as much as seeking an understanding of their utility in relation to male utility It is circular and this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:15 PM
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In the moment the choice is still fundamentally the same because of sexual arousal Women just are less likely than men to feel aroused When aroused their raised testosterone, lowered inhibitions, generally lower mental fortitude, lowered agency, as well as scarcity of opportunity would even that playing field In fact it makes more sense for women to cheat than men because if she is feeling arousal AT ALL it usually means she does have an opportunity to trade up and therefore has no reason to rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:02 PM
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men have more opportunities than women of course This is explained by the basic difference in sexual selection Women must be more choosy even when cheating because it is still governed by the same reproductive process It’s not less likely it’s less opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:58 PM
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The opportunity to cheat is not always there if the individual is not attracted because that is not a choice they would ever make Therefore the “opportunity” doesn’t exist A choice someone would never make is not a choice that can be factored in Women do not fuck men they find unattractive let alone risk relationships to do so Cheating in general is not something people do with individuals they don’t find attractive and usually it’s the opposite in that they are cheating because the person is MO…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:54 PM
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The opportunity would be less scarce for men and more scarce for women due to 80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:46 PM
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Because you are trying to conflate the two as equal The truth is men generally do not commit violence against women It is objectively not a problem because women are generally not victims
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:37 PM
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Not sure what your point is If that’s all they have done for 99% of history including today that is indicative of their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:36 PM
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Your response is laughable though because it doesn’t disprove anything you’re just saying women have hormones How that is conflated to mean they somehow don’t have mechanisms for extra pair copulation when given the opportunity is beyond me When also presented with the knowledge of their 80/20 view on male attractiveness You are saying women would cheat as often as men while simultaneously they have an 80% chance of not finding that man attractive Who risks their relationship to fuck someone the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:31 PM
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Biochemistry and hormones that both sexes have in abundance when sexually aroused Therefore sexual arousal and self control would be the determining factor to predict the of likelihood of cheating And general level of sexual arousal is going to be different due to stricter criterion Also there is just no evidence women cheat less when you include the fact that can simply be explained by less frequency of sexual arousal due to...guess what...stricter criterion for judging attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:27 PM
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I edited for more clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 07:09 PM
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If you didn’t come get to get the run around with a word salad you’re in the wrong sub
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:52 PM
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If you want to catch a fish ask a fisherman not a fish Most women have no idea what actually attracts them And report drastically different preferences that what are seen in basically every study on the topic This is almost certainly because women have an innate desire to test for male value and that test can only be accomplished by doing everything they can to try and exclude that man from a reproductive opportunity When he succeeds in spite of the obstacles it tells her he is strong and capabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:50 PM
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it’s been proven by science that women judge men more aggressively on looks but lie more about it when asked “Disgust Trumps Lust: Women’s Disgust and Attraction Towards Men Is Unaffected by Sexual Arousal” https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0106-8 “The predictive validity of ideal partner preferences: A review and meta-analysis.” https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0032432 “70% of women would avoid someone solely based on their looks, compared to 31% of men” http…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:48 PM
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Exactly At some point dudes just stop buying the bull Now with the internet they have resources to back up their suspicions Men have been red pilled since the dawn of time and there are countless historical examples in literature of men breaking down female nature accurately prior to any studies proving their theories It isn’t new, what’s new is being able to communicate with very other like minded people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 09:40 AM
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How many females die in violence related casualties caused by incels every year I would venture to suggest it’s a very small number compared to violence men inflict on eachother annually Unless you suggest women be exempt from ever being casualties to crime I don’t think you have much of a position as the biggest threat you site seems to have caused relatively little damage to the group it is supposedly targeting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 09:37 AM
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Andassafact
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 09:23 AM
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It seems like most of it is in her ass and thighs is all, which is very feminine The rest of her doesn’t look very pudgy I get what you’re saying though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:46 AM
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Word I would agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:43 AM
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If she wants to have the best odds she would do well by shedding the fat It’s something she isn’t happy about It’s In her direct control Its overtly signaling low sexual value as she states herself that she isn’t a voluptuous fat woman. She says she is boxy and doesn’t have tits Literally the worst situation she can be in for physical attraction unless she either is very pretty or somehow has a big butt on her frame Any man that values her physically will also physically value 98% of other women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:42 AM
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For a woman she is likely in an acceptable BMI probably near the end of it though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:32 AM
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She ain’t fat bro that is thick Fat is when you have belly rolls and neck rolls and elbow lumps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:32 AM
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She isn’t happy and she states that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:31 AM
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Men are bitter because we are trying to tell this woman to live a healthy lifestyle so she can be happy with herself and attract a man who values her physically. Something that according to the women in this sub is CRUCIAL to feeling satisfied as a woman in a relationship Lmao you would rather lie to her and have her live alone with a bunch of cats than hear the truth and make changes You’re fucking disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:26 AM
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You have a high waist to hip ratio no man not even blind men prefer high whr ratios on women as that is a direct signal of lower fertility “Evidence supporting nubility and reproductive value as the key to human female physical attractiveness” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513819300418 “Congenitally blind men prefer a low waist-to-hip ratio” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513809001093?via%3Dihub You yourself are stating you aren’t happy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:22 AM
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Lmao it’s your body, if you are comfortable being overweight than be overweight just don’t expect people to treat you like a girl who isn’t That’s what the “toxic” men of this sub are so vocal against Be fat be chubby be whatever but make your own decision and live with the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 08:19 AM
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I don’t think you understand the difference between scarcity of mate selection due to 9 months of incapacitation and draining resources vs billions of sperm with little or no investment in parental care Again just because someone is tempted less due to their natural more scarce selective pressures doesn’t equate to stronger ability to resist temptation Ie: women rate men on a Pareto Distribution where only 20% are attractive and 80% aren’t Men rate women on a bell curve where most women are attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:58 AM
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Women do the same thing. Many women in relationships fawn over hot male celebrities. A lot of the time even in the presence of their partner Female sexuality is more choosy by nature due to their reproductive system so the equivalent behavior is not as obvious. Male sexuality is wasteful because it can be and so instead of only having the hots for every 2 out 10 guys, he has the hots for 8 out 10 women. Though you wouldn’t say someone is more virtuous for being exposed to less temptation if ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:48 AM
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Nobody likes cheating but women will generally put up with it more often than men will because cheating although hurtful, displays value. Women only hate cheating on the surface Reality gives us multitudes of examples of women going back to men who cheat on them. This is a very common occurrence so much so that their are a prevalence of memes on it that women circulate amongst themselves referring to constantly going back to some form of “toxic guy” that cheats, is unresponsive, abusive, etc. bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:43 AM
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Thankyou I was waiting for someone who could answer this correctly The answer is that female values should not be acknowledged because as you show, they don’t even understand their own values I ask this question so men can see how hard it is for women to respond to What’s makes it even better is the confidence of the responses and the complete lack of comprehension of the question which only further proves the point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:35 PM
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You’re argument depends on the assumption of inherently higher value of female interest over male interest Men don’t value women economically because Women generally don’t engage in relationships where they are dominant financially due to hypergamy. Women historically did not have any economic value to men who would be choosing them. Today this is still largely true. You are without realizing it, defending gynocentrism in the name of ethics by overtly stating that a relationship which was highly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:37 PM
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This fool thinks there is inherent value in the universe that can determined without relation to a subjective desire
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:28 PM
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Oh and last piece of advice. Avoid too much texting! Your goal when texting her is always either to get her on the phone or in person! Texting is too ambiguous and requires her to assume your emotional state. Given she broke up with you, she is probably not assuming a positive one so get to the phone and from the phone get her out in person as “friends” over a cup of coffee or something
/r/TheRedPill03/11/20 12:16 AM
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The problem is the person who typed that doesn’t realize how incredibly sexist that comment is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 10:25 PM
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You stop doing the behaviors that lowered her attraction as well as resolve any emotional qualms that may exist (maybe you cheated, or said some mean things that resulted in her leaving. She may have done stuff too but you can talk about that after she is reattracted) and reattract her as if she was a completely new girl and this is a completely new opportunity. After you break up, your old relationship is gone and buried forever, as well as any guarantee of future association with this woman. M…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/20 09:45 PM
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women work en masse 2/3rds the hours that men work They generally choose lower paying professions Tend to not be as competitive in these fields and instead complain about competition like you literally just did Discrepancies in competitive drive and desire are explained by basic biology, scarcity and reproduction and have been for at least a century at this point WOMEN ARE LITERALLY THE HIGHEST SPENDERS IN THE ECONOMY yet are simultaneously somehow the most financially oppressed? It’s not that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:46 PM
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This sub suffers from asking short sighted questions. It’s not that men want a woman to do one or the other Career women can be career women just don’t complain when no man are in your league to date Don’t complain that men are trying to oppress you in a competitive workplace Don’t claim you want equality and divorce your husband because he makes less than you Etc. Women can stay in the house and raise babies Don’t complain about a pay gap Don’t complain about the lack of female achievers Don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 07:01 PM
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Evolutionary psychology has answered this ages ago
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:56 PM
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Yeah in HS I wasn’t really assertive or confident at first so she ditched me for two others and it made me really dislike her. After this I discovered game and grew as a person which then resulted in her gaining attraction. We got into a relationship but I was never really able to forgive her for how she treated me and so treated her pretty bad and sabotaged it. A few months after I realized that I was holding onto all of that negativity and felt weird about letting it go out like that. The ange…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/20 06:49 PM
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Tinder experiments prove otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:34 AM
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The problem with PPD is that often men are trying to find logical rationale behind what is inherently an anti rational approach to things She isn’t offering friendship because the logic of the option She’s offering friendship because her feelies dont want to stop feeling feelies even though she is aware that her continued feelies depend on you being in worse position Yet if so many simps exist that she can offer this arrangement and have men agree then she is in fact engaging in rational behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:29 PM
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You don’t seem to understand basic biology that’s why people aren’t taking you seriously Just as an example, testing for aggression is completely unrelated to the fact that aggressive behavior is mediated by specific hormones and brain structures that are different between genders before birth The literal basis for aggressive behavior exists primarily in males as an attribute of increased masculinization of the brain This is a basic fact of biology that you can’t seem to comprehend, a long with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:08 PM
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Got an ex re attracted by going no contact then agreeing to becoming friends and just reattracted her from the friendship zone because I’m not a friend That’s the mistake a lot of dudes make with no contact. So long as you aren’t a pussy, being friends is good because it allows you to build attraction. Being friends after a break is only bad if you start behaving like her friend it’s actually a really good position to be in if you want to try again or still have feelings and their wasn’t irrepar…
/r/TheRedPill30/10/20 08:58 PM
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This sub has a great way of avoiding the question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 03:23 PM
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Bro it’s Halloween how many chicks do you think are gonna willingly use this opportunity even with Corona to be a sexy whatever and walk around naked Women objectify themselves because they like male attention and resources Feminism got these hoes confused about the reasons behind their own behavior Case closed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:29 PM
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The reason men over interpret flirting is because sex is historically a scarce commodity and women are not historically upfront about their attraction So men evolved to be open to opportunities wherever possible and men who didn’t evolve that tendency likely missed out on reproductive opportunities and so that is less common If most men won’t reproduce and sex was a rare and valuable commodity back in the day It would make sense for most men to overestimate their chances than underestimate This …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 04:11 PM
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This is explained by the basics of sexual dimorphism. Men are not seeking equals as mates as that wouldn’t make sense because of hypergamy. Hypergamy means attraction between equal mates or mates where the women is dominant generally won’t occur or be stable in the face of competition. So men necessarily are limited in option to women less dominant than themselves. And women are limited in option to men more dominant than themselves. Ie: better= more dominant/ worse = less dominant, ie: conflate…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:16 PM
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But men are expected to care about women’s dating struggles It seems we are also expected to define what their authentic care should look like The irony in this is beyond imaginable It’s not that men expect women to care about male struggles It’s that women expect and insist men to care about women’s struggles But feel no compulsion to do the same for men So men are now saying that women should care as a reaction to what is seen as an unfair expectation Though in reality men are not too concerne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:02 PM
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No it isn’t Just because someone doesn’t like a part of a transaction doesn’t mean it’s creepy By your definition every woman who willingly becomes a sugar baby but doesn’t enjoy the sex is engaging in creepy behavior Or when I go to my job that I don’t like for money I’m engaging in creepy behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 05:00 PM
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You don’t understand the question No one is advocating coercion We are discussing the view society has of bringing up the sexual terms in an equal exchange even if consensual Sex for money isn’t inherently coercion, that would mean you’re against sex work, sugar babies, many married women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:55 AM
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Its sad to see you projecting your belief that thinking is incompatible with getting pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:48 AM
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I’m not saying having sex with someone who doesn’t want to have sex with you. The debate is on why a consensual sexual transaction between a man and woman inherently seen as predatory by and large in society In OP’s hypothetical situation, the person agrees but this action will still be seen as coercive based on the nature of the transaction, even though both parties agree to the terms. It’s as if a man has no right to issue sexual terms in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:07 AM
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I’m not justifying doing this The fact that you are saying that even debating this topic is creepy in a sub that must necessarily involve conversations of this nature, contradicts the very purpose of the sub Instead of calling it creepy, prove my argument wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 12:30 AM
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The reason women don’t like men using sex as a bargaining tool in exchange is because it shows men are aware of female sexual value as existing rather than the idea that women should not be seen sexually And those that understand this and are willing to be honest about it don’t put up with things those who are ignorant to this do because men who are ignorant of the validity of desiring a woman sexually will feel themselves in the wrong when they do and will seek to repress it in themselves This …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:52 PM
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Women initiate the vast majority of domestic abuse in relationships Just putting that out there because men tend to receive no sort of support or warnings about these potentials to anywhere near the degree women do. Which is funny because men are the primary victims Yet society will still feel the need to warn and protect women from this perceived “threat” a threat she is most likely to initiate See how the incorrect base assumption leads to further incorrect assumptions and therefore demonizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:21 PM
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In real life most exchanges are not equal Usually the dominant party gets the better hand of any exchange Equal exchange only applies to the idea, not the content of the exchange because the value of the content is subjective You say potentially harmful, which is my point. That potential depends on the individuals willingness to make the exchange, nothing else and when the exchange is harmful, they don’t make the exchange. Thats every exchange and is irrelevant to the question. The question is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:53 PM
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It still doesn’t change the fact that demanding something that you value in an exchange is not inherently wrong just because the other person doesn’t like the terms Yet it somehow is viewed as inherently wrong to value sex in an exchange by the modern female consensus If I have something you want and say it cost $10 dollars or a blowjob. Unless I’m in a setting where making such exchanges is illegal, there is nothing inherently different about the value of $10 or a blowjob Maybe you think $10 is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:38 PM
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That misses the point The question is whether or not it should be seen as equally coercive by society if the same rules wouldn’t apply in an equal situation of exchange that’s the question Not whether the willingness is setting off red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:27 PM
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It’s because it’s about power and men using sex as a means of power is not as acceptable as women doing it Women employ this kind of sexual power all the time in relationships by withholding sex for resources While if a man withholds resources for sex it’s deemed as coercion Because it’s about power, not fairness It doesn’t mesh well with the feminist idea that men shouldn’t value women for sex Because feminists think that any man valuing any woman primarily sexually is misogynistic, explicitly …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:02 PM
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Well what’s more interesting is that the wisdom may be a rationalized sexual strategy rather than representative of any long standing truth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:50 PM
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No if you give pertinently false information I will present the information that can correct you Posting a response does not make you immune to criticism of your response on the facts that are blatantly untrue Such as your view that submissiveness is not exhibited in women more than men All basic biology disproves that Also that stance is incompatible with the view of male dominance and patriarchy which it seems you agree with as if there is no submissive party, how is their a dominant party
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:35 PM
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I asked what criteria of male value for assessing women is acceptable Meaning what general and static values are men allowed to have that aren’t viewed as sexist misogyny The ones I listed were just common ones I’ve seen around that seem to have a very rational basis but are deemed as unacceptable My apologies if I didn’t make that clear You gave your answer and I challenged it by stating the reason behind those values and how when compared to similarly weighted female values with similar ration…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:27 PM
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You aren’t probing for information but nice effort to try and frame it as if you are You made a comment complaining I have not put one point in my previous response that you can’t verify or attempt to disprove Yet your qualm was with the fact that I attempted to disprove you Not with the actual content of my response That speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:16 PM
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You’re obviously not interested in the discussion of whether or not women’s preferences could be bad for men because you are getting defensive as soon as you are challenged with anything that may suggest it to be true. In fact you are defensive at the very notion that a male would suggest female preferences are not good for men. Which is funny because you have ample opportunity to just respond with an equally thought out comment but chose not to and instead are complaining about me. Which is iro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:13 PM
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It wasn’t taught, men are more stoic because of female selection for strength in a partner Non stoic men have a much harder time reproducing Some evidence https://www.ashdin.com/articles/female-choice-and-male-stoicism.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 06:02 PM
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Also never said women always lie. I’ve only ever said women have a stronger tendency to be duplicitous In communication which leads to men not wanting to communicate with them for answers to their problems with women But somehow you take that as me saying all women lie ? Your assertion is that women don’t lie about their desires. That is the assertion I challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:48 PM
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Also not pissed off at anybody Try not projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:45 PM
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Great way to avoid actually responding to my points You are showing your submissiveness by complaining instead of just proving me wrong I asked a question, got a response, and am challenging that response Not sure what the problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:44 PM
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Which is the basis for their difference in value If a man must be attractive ie: better than a woman he is trying to attract He is usually also attractive to many women. This is reflected in Pareto distributions seen in regards to how most women view most men in terms of attractiveness So it requires he generally build his value above at least 80% of men to be considered attractive by any one woman. Doing this requires effort A woman keeping her N count low to be deemed attractive, which would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:34 PM
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Perhaps there’s a rational basis for that viewpoint that isn’t your one dimensional view of “men want to control women”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:14 PM
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Yes but a high N count for a man reflects value because women only sleep in abundance with high value men So yeah ethically a woman may not be comfortable with it but as a man with a high N count I can guarantee the response has always been more positive than negative The worse response I ever get if I reveal my N count to a woman is surprise, slight wariness and a general increase in attraction with the caveat that I had better have been safe. I have never experienced a woman disliking me for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:11 PM
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Ok I’m going to respond to this and I didn’t want to but I feel leaving this may bolster you in your assumptions so I’ll go for honesty here, and you’re not gonna like it. Men talk to other men about female desires because women are not upfront about their desires Women routinely lie to men about what they want and behave differently than the way they say they do the fact that you are so unaware are of female duplicity in communication with men they find unattractive vs how they behave with men …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 05:02 PM
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That’s not the question so idk how you got upvotes The question is why is the desire to criticize meta level female sexual behavior and it’s effects on society are only relegated to men while women and men have the desire to criticize male sexual behavior Any person saying anything even slightly Tarnishing of women are seen by women and men as toxic yet it is perfectly normal for woman and men to criticize and say anything about men and their desires From this one would assume women aren’t inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:05 PM
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Right I was rephrasing my original question and giving my 2 cents on how the two relate
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:44 PM
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No hypergamy has nothing to do with ethics Ethics and survival aren’t always compatible because one is necessary for the other to exist and therefore must take priority at times in any rational individual and for the basis of healthy reproduction must never overlap too much beyond the limiting factors of life. Ie: I’m sure their are disabled people with great personalities that will never experience sexual intimacy. In this situation the ethics of this situation are irrelevant because sexual int…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:20 PM
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I don’t think you are not hypergamous As we all are hypergamous as a basis for attraction or atleast I do not understand what you mean and would like to DM you for curiosity So yes thank you for taking the time to understand my question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:08 PM
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No I asked what values are acceptable It’s seems the debate on the ethics of those values is very one sided
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:01 PM
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Well that’s what I’m asking. It doesn’t seem many women are interested in self criticism the way men are Girlwriteswhat is an example of this Esther Vilar as another Or Camille Paglia Whether or not you agree with them is secondary to their desire for impartial understanding of their natural behavior and it’s effects on men It seems women fight against this search into their behavior much more than men do It is not seen as strange for a TV commercial to run an ad disparaging natural male behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:57 PM
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I’m not asking what criteria is acceptable I’m asking why women do not judge their own hypergamy and it’s effects on males as much as males do for their own sexuality I’m also asking why is it ok for both men and women to judge male sexuality while hypergamy is not allowed to be criticized without being seen as misogynistic and patriarchal in fact most things female are not allowed to be criticized without getting a stock response of You are a bitter incel Who hurt you You are supporting the pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:30 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but this is simply not true and very one dimensional in its view of value Hypergamy states that women feel the strongest attraction and therefore the highest likelihood of choosing men who have the highest value possible and are available in their environment. If women require male superiority to be attractive, you would necessarily expect any superior male to have greater sexual access And the most superior male to have the greatest sexual access and therefore as a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:23 PM
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High value men don’t feel that way Blue pill cucks do because they put women on pedestals and inherently feel that anyone of such high value is tarnishing themselves by associating intimately with someone of such low comparable value. They then project this feeling onto how this woman must be with most men, which would mean she is used to liking and associating with low value people It’s sad really On the contrary, I lose respect for women that oversell their vaginas and try to make me jump thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:54 PM
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That’s not the question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:49 PM
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I used to have very little success with women so no I do not have that normal experience I started keeping track of my number because it was a badge of honor in showing me that I was overcoming a previous limitation Now I do it out of habit I have also gone a full year without logging a single thing but then started again cause why not, it takes two seconds and I know who I’ve slept with. There were at least 3 women I put down after the fact that I had completely forgotten about and I don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:44 PM
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Cool bro, I’m sure you do shit I think is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:36 PM
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You’re argument is basically that an attractive man would have no desire to understand women or keep track of his sexual experiences I hope anyone viewing this comment thread understands how illogical that equivalence is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:27 PM
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No the point of this post is that women are hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:22 PM
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As a results of me putting in too much effort, I have above average experience with women, so I would say it all balances out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:20 PM
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Yeah that’s quite a few things for me, hence the autism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:17 PM
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So actually I will agree with you, my autistic temperament was not beneficial to my sex life until it was focused on attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:14 PM
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You know what else I autistically do, study female attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:11 PM
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Again, sorry to disprove your theory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:10 PM
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Sorry to disprove your theory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:07 PM
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That wasn’t the question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:04 PM
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sorry it’s hard for you to comprehend that some people don’t have a hard time getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 05:02 PM
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I also do not think is driven so much by choice than by others factors such as scarcity but the best way I can think to frame it right now is choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:58 PM
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Seems as if you are making an attempt at insulting men who are curious about female behavior which only supports my point. I would generally agree with your hypothesis as you are maybe the first to understand the question. The problem being that men allow criticism of themselves where females do not. I do not allow this behavior in my own life, though I am still curious why most men do. So yes many men are pussies, specifically those that allow female judgements of the ethics of their sexual nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:56 PM
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You and almost every woman that has commented so far has entirely misunderstood my question Which ironically is supporting my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:42 PM
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This doesn’t make logical sense Predatory behavior is not on a list in order of magnitude Or not to my knowledge and even if it was Both predators are preying on value And both individuals are preying on eachother for the thing they deem valuable It is not more wrong to happen to value something different The wrong thing is to engage in predatory behavior in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:06 PM
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They get criticized by men on secret online forums and obscure subreddits that are labeled as misogynistic They also do not receive as much criticism from their own gender in regards to how certain behaviors are destructive such a getting men to pay for meals with no intention of future relation (as much as 30% of women admit to this), stringing men along and having orbiters, whoring themselves out online by preying on lonely sad men While here you will see a wide variety of men criticizing othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:02 PM
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So a man having a consensual relationship with another adult is equivalent to rape ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:56 PM
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Have you heard of OnlyFans ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:55 PM
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So me saying that both sides exhibit potentially negative behavior but only one side seems to be allowed to be criticize for it is calling all women toxic predators ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:54 PM
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Literally never said any of that but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:48 PM
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that standard is being applied unilaterally Women who engage in relationships for reasons other than what you mentioned are not seen as creepy or demonized Though if a man does it it’s bad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:48 PM
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Right it’s the fact that people have been taught a negative perception of what is a very normal occurrence that I take issue with And the fact that only one individual of two consenting adults is seen as predatory When the desire is neither illegal nor unnatural
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:45 PM
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Big strawman energy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:41 PM
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two consenting adults
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:40 PM
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Sure though it doesn’t change the fact that two consenting adults who engage in a relationship willingly and legally are seen as creepy When the reasons behind that relationship are normal and mutually beneficial and observable by science Women like older more secure and experienced men Men like youth and fertility Yet only one half of this legally permissible dynamic is seen as creepy By that logic all the young women sugar babying it up or seeking older more secure men for relationships should…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:39 PM
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I don’t state my preferences. I stated general male preferences that women have publicly taken issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:34 PM
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Yes gold diggers are obviously predatory so no one likes them Even someone that wants to gold dig would likely demonize the practice Because of how apparently predatory it is Exploitation and scamming are rather normal for women in the dating scene and it is only until recently that men have built forums to discuss how to avoid this behavior hence The Existence of The Red Pill in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:33 PM
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I agree with that, though I would not say that is the dynamic of very valuable men with most women A very valuable man has the option to find someone who complies with his wishes and demands and the more dominant he is, the more likely she will want to comply I do not think subservience is a necessary factor to a relationship. I do think that it is exhibited by women in the presence of high value males Such as orgasming more Traveling longer distances to meet Being more tolerant of negative pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:31 PM
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It isn’t predatory it is natural and has remained static for literally all of history because it is also beneficial to the male and the health of the offspring. Younger women ARE more fertile. Then also, women chasing, marrying and engaging in men for their resources would be just as predatory by your definition Women using men for meals is just as predatory Women seeking out lonely virgins to pay for naked photos is predatory Women marrying a man and leaving him for someone better because he fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:51 PM
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No one ever truly submits to anyone, not sure your point. A woman does submit to a man in the sense that she will comply with the vast majority of his wishes and demands You don’t need to submit 100% to someone to be engaging in submissive behavior in relation to them They also do not do this as an illusion, they do it out of fear of losing an attractive prospect If she doesn’t ‘submit’ to the high value male when she has the opportunity, he may very well move on and she loses out on the benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:46 PM
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Being attracted to a 21 year old at 45 is normal yet is demonized and looked down upon in society as Percy Not sure why you immediately decided to assume I mean minors
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:41 PM
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Women submit to the most valuable male and they choose not to submit to a low value male This is common knowledge Femininity is also related submission because of the general lack of androgens promoting dominance related behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:36 PM
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It’s not the discussion of these things that I am curious about. It’s the lack of criticism of women of themselves An example would be women wanting the draft That’s something that is unique because not being drafted is a female privilege that is blatantly unfair to males Yet males are not allowed to scrutinize this And women generally are unconcerned with scrutinizing this Another example is the popular online hashtag #allmenaretrash If a man were to popularize a hashtag #allwomenaretrash he wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:32 PM
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I’m not talking about discussing female criteria. Most women want the same thing but differ slightly. I don’t think I’ve run across a woman once in my life that doesn’t find Jason Mamoa attractive, yet not every woman can be with Jason Mamoa, hence the discussion. That reflects scarcity not a fundamental difference in attraction. My question is why does the near universal attraction for Jason Mamoa receive no scrutiny While for example the male near universal attraction for healthy young women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:23 PM
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That’s my point. It objectively isn’t creepy for a man over 30 to be attracted to a young woman and reflects very real biological objectives that are beneficial to him Such as higher fertility A more dominant role Beauty, etc Yet this very natural and explainable behavior is still somehow seen as creepy Even when it is shown that young women have higher attraction with older men generally Yet when you have thousands of regular women sending pictures of their assholes to strangers on the web for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 08:07 PM
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Ie: we know how much money is needed for a man to remain attractive, approximately 20% or so more than your partner Good looking-ness is objectively measurable and constant for most individuals, even babies and animals Certain personality traits guarantee a more attractive personality such as extroversion, confidence, risk taking, etc. So no these things are not subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:57 PM
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All those things can measured in objectively verifiable ways You’re making a NAWALT argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:55 PM
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Yeah so then I guess hypergamy isn’t also reflected in the desire mate with a more attractive male than the current less attractive partner because it doesn’t fit your pedantic root definition
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:50 PM
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Hypergamy is the inability for a female to be attracted to a man of lower value than herself reflected in a desire to date up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:48 PM
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Hypergamy isn’t gold digging
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:47 PM
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All three of those are male inventions is my point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:36 PM
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No it’s cool for anybody to do what they want I never said it was bad ethically Or never intended to other than you mentioning it This is a huge strawman so I’m off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:36 PM
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I’m talking about specifically the scrutiny of sexual strategy Women do not have forums criticizing their own hypergamy nor is hypergamy seen as socially deleterious as many male desires are and actively fought against Think fat acceptance as an example That is just fat women wanting to still be attractive and criticizing men for their natural aversion obese women This is so ubiquitous an idea that major corporations back the idea that being fat is fine because to not is to risk a significant am…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:33 PM
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My point is that red pill women for one is an offshoot of the male invention of the red pill It’s is a reaction to the original male desire to understand and therefore does not reflect an original female desire to understand and criticize her hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:31 PM
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Right men criticize female sexual interests as well as their own This does not concern me I am curious why women don’t fee this same compulsion for themselves and instead leave it up to some men to create the purple pill and then come in later
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:28 PM
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That is literally my point Please re read the post if you are curious of my question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:27 PM
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Well the ethics are specific to the individual case That’s like saying killing is ethically wrong No sometimes killing is just fine given the context
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:26 PM
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No you don’t. This forum wouldn’t exist if that was the case TRP wouldn’t be quarantined if that was the case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:25 PM
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That’s the point I’m making Please re read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:24 PM
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The Purple pill was created by men so no it doesn’t count I’m referring to things women created for themselves to critique and allow critique of their own sexual behaviors and interests Men have done this and allow and invite women to join and critique, hence this forum I’m curious why this is not seen as ok the reverse It seems any group critiquing female behaviors gets. labeled as misogynistic or toxic or patriarchal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:23 PM
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Are we strawmanning ? Also a high n count took me quite a bit of effort If I was a woman I could have that count in a week
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:19 PM
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You’re literally in one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:14 PM
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I don’t think you understand the question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:13 PM
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I’m not sure you understand the original question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:09 PM
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I never said women don’t criticize women I’m saying that is not acceptable for men to criticize women And that women do not criticize their own behavior nearly as much as men do Hence this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:05 PM
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Again this is totally sidestepping my question I’m not asking about males judging female value I’m asking why a space like this can exist at the behest of males for the benefit of both men and women yet such spaces do not exist at the behest of women for the same reason Women actively fight against males critiquing their behavior or having any standards that are stable and reflect true male desires Yet women do not critique their own true desires when they are be equally as rigid Requiring peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 07:00 PM
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You are in a purple pill sub Reddit, you obviously care More than the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:57 PM
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That wasn’t my question I’m curious why it is seen as ok by men and women for both men and women to criticize men but women do not feel this compulsion for themselves and actively fight against men doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:56 PM
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I’m specifically referring to women scrutinizing their own behavior such as building large Internet forums where they critique the ethics of their own sexual strategies amongst themselves and allow men to come and freely criticize their sexual strategies. I am not aware of such places existing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:54 PM
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It’s hilarious the double standard when it comes to partner count and virginity Women don’t want any expectations placed on them nor any criteria used to judge them as a desirable mate even if those criteria and expectations are as natural and restrictive as their criterion for judging men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:30 PM
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No it is a natural male desire for low competition and high likelihood of successful paternity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:28 PM
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Women are definitely turned on by photos of attractive men Women will literally deny anything lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:44 PM
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More so if it makes women look bad enough though I doubt many feminists are very interested in dating site studies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:41 PM
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Oh the irony
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:35 PM
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I would also like to say I included the second link as a counter to point about men wanting to control women The vast majority of slut shaming is done on women by other women, not men, men love sluts, women don’t because it devalues their tool of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:29 PM
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I have not posted any links other than this You must be referring to something else Anyway feel free to refute these studies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:28 PM
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Oh well yeah I do think some people may that but I don’t think it’s correct to assume that as a female thing to do beyond a smart person who happens to be female making a choice, a choice she would theoretically have always been smart enough to not make. No one throws a card game just to seem dumb unless they want to, that’s counter to hypergamy. Hypergamy means that even if she throws the game, the knowledge that she was inherently more intelligent will effect her attraction If she throws the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:24 PM
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I was referring to you saying women aren’t going to pretend to dumb anymore to let men win games Which is inaccurate Women aren’t out performing men today nor will they ever so long as hypergamy relies on finding a higher value mate Men will always need to be smarter in some capacity at the general level if we are to sustain life on this planet And by sustain life I mean for women continue choosing to reproduce with men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:05 PM
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Women didn’t let men win games and act dumb, women were outcompeted in all games Now white knights are using the legal system to unfairly level the playing field for women at the detriment of men Notice that everything is about female power ? Seems weird that the supposedly always powerful entity needs constant societal benefit, support, and reminder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:55 PM
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Women with premarital sex partners have higher divorce rates https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0265407513487638?journalCode=spra https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103117304195 Promiscuous women are treated more aggressively by other women https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797619836106 Women are half as likely as men to be satisfied by a one night stand https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886919304106 https://www.menshealth.com…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:32 PM
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Ohhh ok no we agree I thought you were saying something else Yes I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:45 PM
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You are posted any statistics or made any points that have statistics Just cause you’re friends don’t like condoms doesn’t means condoms don’t objectively have a 98% success rate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:42 PM
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You are also not “supposed” to know someone before sex Where is this rule written ? Prove that sex is made to only occur between people that deeply know each other Seems to be an idea you’ve moralized more than a fact about sex and it’s purpose in animals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:41 PM
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Anyway you can drastically reduce your risk of getting most STD’s with a condom I’ve been with enough to be at high risk and have nothing so far. Women and men don’t care about special acts of sex when they see you with a bunch of women. Their vaginas just get wet at your preselection and the men respect you more. Sure sex can be special but my high N count for my age has never stopped a girl from wanting to pursue something deeper with me, if anything it’s hindered me in that women feel less co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:36 PM
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Sorry to destroy your egalitarian fantasy but life isn’t a perfectly balanced seesaw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:28 PM
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The fact you keep trying to find reasons to equivocate the two when there is literal science showing they aren’t equivocal is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:27 PM
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I said much more ubiquitous which is incorrect English so understandable. Here is a correction: Women have been more comfortable living off of a man than men have. I will challenge your idea that a mans resources won’t still significantly effect his desirability to a partner even if she is financially stable. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0968-7 “Among males, the multivariable analysis also showed that sexlessness was associated with providing less than 20% of the househol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 04:55 AM
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Pretty sure I said much more ubiquitous not all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:58 AM
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To show the irony in your comment I would like to refer to the post you’re commenting on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:46 AM
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I don’t understand what you want me to get from this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:28 AM
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So males on average have a sexual strategy of finding a higher value mate to provide for all of their needs and use this sexual strategy on mass? Where are males doing this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:27 AM
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Ah well excuse the misunderstanding. I assume you are a man because obviously this behavior is much more ubiquitous among women and I think we can agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 02:20 AM
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Men are supposed to overestimate interest because women do not to express it overtly in most cases and even when they do it is usually rather subtle such as a slightly prolonged gaze or proximity Even women who are assertive may become shy and less overt in expressing attraction with men they deem sufficiently more attractive than themselves This is more of a universal submission response than a female one as most people experienced reduced expressiveness around people who they deem much more va…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:57 AM
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You are a male with a male brain and male evolutionary drives, that explains the diffidence in ethics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:32 AM
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You are making a false equivalence. Male sexual partner count and its value in a relationship is not the same as a woman’s. Male sexual partner count: - high numbers are difficult to achieve and thus add to a mans perceived social value ie: women only fuck men of high value, you fuck a lot of women, you must be high value, etc. this has been studied - Preselects him in the eyes of other women and boosts his attractiveness - gives him tangible experience on how to deal with and satisfy women (wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:26 AM
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Doesn’t account for the differences in the strength of hypergamous selection between the genders. It is literally the basis of female attraction, whilst to a male it is only ancillary in favor of health indicators. a successful woman to a man is at best a perk and at worse actively detrimental to his ability to remain attractive to her. If male hypergamy was as ubiquitous and prevalent in decision making (if even possible) you would see many more young attractive men dating older financially sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 10:07 PM
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Frame depends on the degree you are in control of both internal and external factors. It isn’t one or the other. You can have a great frame by being a broke af super confident handsome guy who women fuck because he’s hot You can have great frame as a 300 pound overweight self employed business owner who knows he doesn’t need to work for anyone for the rest of his life The strongest frame will come from the person who has both handled sufficiently enough that any potential problem that can arise …
/r/TheRedPill08/09/20 02:13 PM
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It’s the reported least attractive race to date by western women of all races both online and offline
/r/TheRedPill27/08/20 02:42 PM
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I made a great effort to re attract my ex recently as our relationship ended with a lot of loose ends and repressed pain from both of our pasts with eachother prior to attempting a relationship and in the end is what ended it. I did this because I felt not having this closure would be gradually chip away at my mental well-being unless I did something about it. In doing this, I stumbled upon a PUA named Dan Bacon and bought his Ex Back program. In that program he goes over many basic red pill tru…
/r/TheRedPill19/08/20 01:48 AM
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Chance. You can get lucky and it is easy but don’t neglect the copious amount of naturally attractive men who are homeless, dumb, beta as fuck with no hope of finding TRP, in jail, or living in some other form of destitution. It’s not fair and Chance is a capricious mistress. There are dudes out there shorter, fatter and uglier than you with penises 3 standard deviations from normal size. Then there are dudes way taller and more handsome than you with below average penises. There are also dudes …
/r/TheRedPill31/07/20 11:25 AM
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Right All those things can increase her emotional receptivity but if she isn’t feeling intense emotions when actually interacting with you, you have it all backward
/r/TheRedPill30/07/20 11:26 PM
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My boy who introduced me to game used to say he could fuck my ex if he wanted to and I never took him seriously cause I’m taller, more masculine physique, less body fat and better looking and she was head over heels for me We later broke up cause I had a lot of insecurities involving her and our history which made it very hard to be vulnerable or develop trust with her. (was beta in her mind first couple years of HS and she treated me like shit until my homey mentioned above put me on to game.) …
/r/TheRedPill30/07/20 11:11 PM
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everything in life carries risk and sometimes those odds turn out against your favor The only rational solution is to accept it, see if the offense is forgivable, if so forgive and forget. If not, forgive and move on We are all self interested and relationships don’t change that. Provide for your partners interests as much as possible if you want to increase the chances of being with that person. Nothing in life is guaranteed. If you cannot provide enough for them to stay or if they decide to br…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/20 10:48 PM
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Then the mans value was not high enough in her eyes. Her estimation of your value is all that matters to her sex drive. You May be doing good on the surface but if she still doesn’t see you as high value then you aren’t high value to her. It’s not her fault you don’t know how to sexually excite her She isn’t wrong for not seeing you as valuable if you don’t meet her standard. Nor are you wrong for not meeting her standard. If you want her around then you can increase your value in the ways that …
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 10:45 PM
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If you are doing things right she won’t see him as higher value than you And if you are doing things right and she still does Then A he is higher value than you. Learn from it and move on Or B she has poor judgement and you just saved yourself some trouble
/r/TheRedPill23/06/20 10:37 PM
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I don’t see how that contradicts my point. Yeah there are some girls who may be more promiscuous but ultimately her basic biological drive and the structure of her brain is built for her to find the highest value male and reproduce with him. If she isn’t doing it with you it means you aren’t that guy. She may see you as high value enough for the sex, but not see you as high value enough to chase your commitment.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/20 01:50 AM
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No woman only wants sex without commitment. If she’s not trying to commit to you, it means you aren’t high value enough
/r/TheRedPill20/06/20 11:41 PM
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It doesn’t matter. Just stay on your grind and chase your dreams. If at some point she cheats or leaves, deal with it and move on You are an independent human who has an independent life to live Part of that may mean pairing with another independent human for a while and having some degree of exclusivity But at the end of the day, that will always be someone outside of you with their own wills, desires, experiences, limitations, etc. If you are focused on pursuing your own dreams and growth it w…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/20 11:01 PM
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Masculinity is control. Masculinity is taking whatever hand you are dealt, learning to control it, and therefore gaining power over it. Winning is a byproduct of high degrees of control. Winning isn’t necessarily masculine, it’s just a general byproduct of masculine behavior and thinking. Plenty of the biggest winners in history were also losers at some point. They weren’t any less masculine when they failed. The masculinity was found in not letting an external circumstance such as failure and b…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/20 10:32 PM
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If you are good looking online dating is very effective.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/20 07:28 PM
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Alphaness is all about frame with personality as a sprinkle on top. Hence you can have loud mouthed aggressive alphas, quiet alphas, intellectual alphas, intellectual loud mouth alphas, dumb and quiet alphas, etc, etc, the list goes on because the determining factor isn’t personality but power. The important thing is that an alpha holds frame more than whoever they are speaking to. Holding frame won’t make you a true alpha though, true alphas generally have the resources to back up their frame. …
/r/TheRedPill06/01/20 02:00 AM
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This is not a problem of reading TRP but a problem of men not fully internalizing the ideas presented. I read TRP all the time but my fundamental belief is that I am high value regardless, and that if I’m not I will spend my time accumulating such value. That is literally ALL you need to focus on. The rest is icing on top and technicality to deal with the nuances of various situations with less conflict, though ultimately you don’t NEED 15 articles teaching you how to alpha because the true alph…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/20 04:04 AM
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“The bando” lmao great post
/r/TheRedPill30/12/19 09:48 PM
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Very informative post and very helpful, thankyou!
/r/TheRedPill30/12/19 03:26 PM
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Ahh and I’m here thinking this is a real red pill subreddit
/r/TheRedPill15/12/19 05:52 PM
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I’m confused why I got downvoted so much for expressing a fact which validates the study.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/19 08:05 PM
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I was a bully in middle school and high school. Clocked in at 45 lays so far at the age of 21. don’t be mad at this though, women like dominant men. Be a dominant man and this won’t be a problem. Bullying is just a very convenient way for many young dominant men to express said dominance. Nowadays bullying seems childish and immature to me because I have others means of expressing dominance.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/19 12:11 AM
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As a rule I ignore 99% of studies that involve females consciously choosing what they find attractive. Female nature is riddled with too many biases for it to be scientific.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/19 07:17 PM
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Another thing I've noticed is that many asd people feel a lot of emotion but it can be so intense that they choose to ignore it or focus on something else they have more control over.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/19 03:00 AM
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Cognitive Empathy is different than effective Empathy. Cognitive Empathy requires thought and structure and does not necessarily mean you are experiencing others emotions. Effective Empathy on the other hand is the automatic feeling of others emotions. Which is what I believe testosterone interferes with. Primary psychopaths are classified as usually having high cognitive Empathy but low effective empathy, which is why they are so good at manipulating people. High prenatal testosterone can also …
/r/TheRedPill24/10/19 02:58 AM
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Truly. If you could have earned more than the cost of time spent, you are in the green. Issue is most men who fuck whores can't afford to. If you can afford to I don't see why not.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/19 02:30 AM
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There is no such thing as a strong independent woman. All women are women and want a dominant male around. Or atleast 99% do. If you are high value enough, any woman will go with your plans because it's her nature to do so. I don't hook up with "strong independent women" and when I do I make sure to tell them to leave that shit at the door
/r/seduction19/10/19 01:10 PM
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Not at all man. You did this perfectly. You aren't her emotional tampon and she is in the wrong for trying to use you as such. Being able to walk away from a bad deal is the first step to personal power. Keep those personal boundaries tight and remember, you are the prize.
/r/seduction24/09/19 06:32 PM
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Give value You are the buyer NOT the seller Don't over invest Keep your goal in mind (date for sex) you aren't her texting buddy Get her to agree to the general idea of meeting up before attempting to close Close on positive emotions When given neutral or negative emotions do not try to push the interaction forward but instead seek to get her invested with positive emotions Understand there are plenty of fish in the sea if you fuck this up it isn't the end of the world
/r/seduction15/09/19 06:06 AM
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Ayyy keep it up
/r/seduction08/09/19 06:06 AM
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Buism.com
/r/seduction02/09/19 06:58 PM
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I read this thing awhile back on this nerds blog about how male and female brains are wired. His main hypothesis was that due to how hormones effect our brain neurons, males would be more likely to focus on general behavior rather than specific behavior and women vice versa. His conclusion was that when males engage in general behaviors ie: not focusing on this moment or circumstance in time, the contrast between the dimorphic forms of cognition creates attraction by signaling one's masculinity.…
/r/seduction01/09/19 05:13 PM
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This probably.
/r/BlackPillScience16/08/19 06:18 PM
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