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CMVBadMuch2033/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:11 PM
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I didn't vote for Trump, I'm just informing you how terrible and alienating these optics are. But sure, focus on dunking on men. That oughta slow down the conservative policy machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:07 AM
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Anyone who denied men being responsible for the election is dumb. There was a clear swing towards Trump among men of all groups unless I'm mistaken. And there will be more conservative wins until the radical fringe is silenced on the left. We need to hear from normal people with common sense solutions to problems like healthcare. We've heard enough from activists who only care about social problems. We get it, you hate men, but no one wants to hear it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:04 PM
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Feminists who won't reckon with the man hating radicals in their movement are directly responsible for progressivisms' decline. It's your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:03 PM
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Lame and boring reply, but it's not your fault if that's all you're capable of
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:21 AM
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Anyway, it's an important distinction. Yes, men have been dealing with insecurity since the dawn of time, and it's fueled many of their behaviors. But a vast majority of men are not cavemen driven solely on the instinct to dominate. Men must compete with other men due to patriarchy. Progressivism does absolutely, absolutely nothing to free men from that burden, even though inter-male competition is the driving force behind patriarchy. Progressivism does not celebrate its men who refrain from pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:28 PM
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Something tells me this amounts to relativism. We do have academics, scholars, and even gurus who are dominant in their field. There's no real reason to discount the foremost voices on a topic. It's just a boring way for participants in a movement to evade accountability. Andrew Tate defined the manosphere movement, just like crazy Twitter users defined feminism. Continuing to identify with these labels in spite of this is so childish. You lost the party primary, get over it and stop relativizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:35 PM
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A need for dominion is a result of insecurity, not some inherent male feature. Silly voices inside the progressive sphere increase male insecurity, and increase the need for dominion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:30 PM
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You didn't reply to a single thing in the post lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:18 PM
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I literally, literally just said there's a middle ground between complimenting a propped up flaw, and insulting the flaw. So how am I advocating for insulting? Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:15 PM
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If someone is noticeably taller, and theyre not a growing teenager, safe to assume they're wearing heels. Because it's like calling someone beautiful, but only when they use IG filters. This obviously contributes to their belief that someone is wrong with their true self. It worsens the dysphoria they're experiencing about their baseline appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:47 PM
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There's middle ground between calling out your friends, and celebrating their ironically vain efforts spent on vanity. It'd be like if we complimented my short friend on looking tall when he wears lifts. The cognitive dissonance is just too obvious, it's not a kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:28 PM
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It's not that big of a deal to have a superficial flaw, but this is tiresome. It's annoying because you're creating cognitive dissonance. Which makes it even worse for the people: Cuz they still have to deal with being fat/hairy/masculine, and the social repercussions of it, but now they have a friend who is lying about the fact of the matter. It's not that deep? Edit: Most people are appealing in spite of flaws. Not being able to handle the acknowledgement of your flaws indicates an unhealthy e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:16 PM
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I was referring specifically to "nice guys" in the last section of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:02 PM
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The term good person is pretty hollow, yeah. I like the term responsible, because its more defined- there's something calming and attractive about people who take responsibility for themselves, their actions, and their outcomes. Cuz the average person is usually caught up taking care of themselves in a mostly selfish way. Truly good people, the ones who dedicate their lives and careers to helping others, rarely struggle with dating. As always, I'll harp on highschool, which is the only environme…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 06:08 PM
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Idk, most people are either generally responsible or irresponsible. And lol @ the goody goodies = fake. Some people are nice and there's no agenda. Kind people can still make jokes and go on adventures. All assholes (myself included) should aspire to be more like them. If you can't be kind and fun at the same time, it's a skill issue, not an inherent issue with kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:32 PM
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Still don't see it, if only you could've provided an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:10 PM
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Weird grammar in your second paragraph, you're missing a word somewhere. Plenty of men who play the gentleman role still get action, what are you even going on about? Women like all types of men, not just the flirty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:22 PM
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Calming the fuck down about this and pursuing a normal life would be better for most people, yes. Fixating on trying to improve your superficial qualities won't overcome a shitty self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:12 PM
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Nah it makes sense. For dating to work, youd generally want to give each sex complimentary scripts that play well into each other if followed. We give men the blue pill script out of good intentions. But we refuse to hand women a script that is complimentary to the blue pill script, which actually celebrates women who date the good guy. Instead we've gotten ten straight years of choice feminism, only fans apologism, and girl bossing. Yippee. Now both genders can grift and revel in hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:08 PM
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This has literally nothing to do with the post. Why did you write this in response to someone stating that the male improvement treadmill does not help with women? If anything you AGREE with the post by saying improvement is just for yourself. I despise this type of blue piller lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:57 PM
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How can a man be used for his money when he spent it of his own volition? It's called bad faith engagement. "Am I interested in them? Idkkkk but they can buy me dinner teehee" And yeah, of course its valid for a woman to complain if she puts out for someone who was being disingenuous about their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:43 AM
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Idk it sounds like you just have low self esteem and put women on a pedestal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:32 AM
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So long as you can turn it off and act like a full person when your partner isn't around. The rest of us don't wanna pick up the slack just cuz you like traditional gender roles. Women should carry their own weight, and incompetent men should be demeaned even if it emasculates them. Behind closed doors, do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:04 PM
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Shame that these same characteristics make you obnoxious to everyone you're not in a relationship with. And same for the partner. If your relationship only works because one person takes the backseat and acts submissive for the egoist party, lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:01 PM
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Dating is very difficult when you're insanely neurotic* But most women are not insanely neurotic, so they don't suffer from this problem. Get a therapist to discuss paranoia if you suffer from this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:56 PM
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Most people who aren't terminally online seem to do fine with finding partners. Social decline probably follows the extent to which people consume products that alienate them from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:20 PM
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What?? There's tons of comments that don't ask what is meant by accountability, and for good reason. Accountability refers to taking on the onus of responsibility for a problem you caused. Pop feminists typically adopt a victim stance rather than proactively solving their problems with pro social behaviors. Accountability means publicly engaging with the question of WHY so many young women accidentally encourage patriarchy by playing into traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:17 AM
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Changing your rules of engagement based on how you feel about the subject is cringe. If he's a POS, criticize the things that make him a POS. Not super complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:54 PM
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Where did I say that? I'm criticizing a culture that celebrates attractions to dysfunctional relationship dynamics. Attraction doesn't happen in a vacuum, and it's reasonable to criticize cultures that push people towards unhappy relationship endings. If all you wanna do is abuse your freedoms to create miserable people, I'm gonna loudly criticize you for it. And I think more people should join in that criticism. Dysfunctional people suck in general, but especially in dating. They can go to ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:49 PM
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As a person who wants to live in a healthy society, this shit gets old. Really? There's no way to analyze a dating market as healthy vs unhealthy? If you can't see the connection between young, purposeless people and the rise of fascism (which WILL take away freedoms) you're a severely undereducated person. Maybe western nations doing federal abortion mans this decade will wake you up. I miss having women on the side of making our country better, instead of going "WELL TECHNICALLY WOMEN ARE GETT…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:56 PM
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You were cooking, but lmfao at this reply. Anyone with those expectations is a hedonist regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:56 PM
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I'm saying that people who enable and normalize shallow preferences are weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:09 PM
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Okay, but what's the point of you personally saying this? We have free will, but that isn't a reason to toss education, maturity, and wisdom out the window. It's not about the people who act destructively. It's about their weirdo enablers who can't help saying, "Uhmmmmmm ackshually we all have free will" whenever some loser is getting shamed for their loser preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:26 PM
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There is zero reason to act like all standards are made equal. That's literally why we describe some preferences as superficial, immature, etc. Are they valid? Sure. In the same way that preferring to eat cookies for every meal is technically valid. Notice that no one except butthurt, jaded MFs disparage emotional compatibility as the most important dating standard. It's not negotiable, but I get to make fun of and disparage grown adults who have the same dating standards as a delusional highsch…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:22 PM
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Nice, what's the going rate for a man and a woman? North or south of $200k?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:20 PM
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This reads like a dude who's labor is worthless. Why are you applying economic principles to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:45 AM
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If it matters to you that much that people outside the relationship compliment your partner who may or may not do less, it seems narcissistic. Especially considering it's known that both partners typically feel like they each contribute 60% of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 03:08 AM
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Okay and? It's a red flag if this really matters to you that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:56 AM
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If dating a scumbag were seen as the shameful thing that it is no, they would not have kids. Good women have the power to make these men and their partners be seen as the losers that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:47 PM
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The way they do now, after they get divorced - substance abuse and lots of complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:58 PM
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Zero elaboration, seems super legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:48 PM
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If you think that exclusively applies to lower income black and Hispanic communities, you're the one with internalized racism. This is a persistent issue across all races and classes. It's a question of cultural patriarchy. Some communities have more issues with it than others based on their own history. Cool projections, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:02 PM
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Project a little harder for me, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:49 PM
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Or, you know, people just think it's cute to see a Dad with his kids. Making it about who gets credit is so narcissistic and weird. You simultaneously recognize that many fathers won't do the bare minimum at all, but have cognitive dissonance when people are encouraging towards dads that are more present. There's deeper undercurrents going on, but it's not the lack of appreciation of women as mothers. Its a patriarchal expectation for engaged fathers to be less engaged. What you don't seem to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:47 PM
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Women are in full control of who they choose to date and form child-bearing relationships (outside of some pretty extreme, bullshit circumstances). Don't kid yourself into thinking that a lazy father's first sign was exhibited after having kids. Until women grapple with other women on the issue of attraction to lazy patriarchs, this won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:40 PM
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You're deliberately lying and gaslighting - no threat was made. And that's not cause you're a woman, you're just a bad person. 🤍 Birds of a feather. No wonder you only have experiences with shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:37 PM
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Confirmation bias is a helluva drug. I'm sorry that you're so involved with pathetic communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:38 PM
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It must be so hard for women to see people be nice to the father of their children lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:54 PM
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It's not a strange take, it's a historically accurate pattern that is playing out in real time- all progressive populists end up playing into the hands of reactionary fascists. Fascists never actually intend to enact fair economic policies. The enablement of faux-individuality and hedonistic cultures is the only thing that Left Wingers actually accomplish, because they despise the very institutions necessary to achieve their policy goals. Then, reactionaries are able to say, "See? They just want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:06 AM
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Centrism allows for left wing progressivism, left wing progressivism fuels reactionary fascism, centrists stamp out reactionary fascism. IMO just end the cycle and stop allowing for progressivism. Progress is inevitable, so let's quit letting delusional people fuel it and do waaaaay too much, too fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:53 PM
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That's great in theory, but it won't change the active effort other men will put into undoing women's rights. People vying for their own self interest tend to win, in the end. This next election cycle will determine a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:53 AM
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Probably for the same reasons women don't approach: they don't feel like the risk outweighs the reward. Fear is a dumb choice of words here. There's more perceived social risk to approaching women than there used to be. The why doesn't even matter at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:46 AM
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Men can and will just disregard that and restrict women's rights if they feel pressed. It's already happening. Progress isn't linear, we're literally on the verge of a massive regression. The idea that the average guy will self sacrifice his QoL is so naive. I hate the delusion cuz I'm not a fan of reactionary fascism, but that's what this nonsense will earn us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:34 AM
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The issue with a shitty culture will always be the people who maintain the status quo. Identity traits don't matter. Whether a person is a benefactor or not, doesn't matter. People who maintain a bad status quo in any way are the problem. Similarly, OP is part of the problem for posting such a stupid, baity title.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:01 PM
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Yeah, there's no contradiction. Men know from experience how to identify male manipulation tactics. Both genders are better at identifying same-gender manipulation. When men view certain men as red flagged, it tends to be context dependent. They still react poorly when men are universally red flagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:56 PM
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You are allowed to have opinions on things that don't directly affect you, especially when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:23 PM
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This is such a boring cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:23 PM
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Self deception is a problem, and it sucks that people use it to build walls around themselves and gaslight others into thinking their walls are the norm. But it's ultimately their own problem. Distance yourself from people who do that, and let them work it out for themselves. There's no benefit to interfering with other people's world outlook or lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:19 PM
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Submission and dominance are paradoxical like that, yeah. Authority rules at the consent of the submissive (with the exception of despotism, which is another topic entirely). The implication here is that the submissive party is getting something out of the situation - typically security and an assurance that certain needs are being met. If these conditions are not being met, rebellion will inevitably occur in some form. In an ideal, mutual relationship, the needs of either partner can be underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:40 PM
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My viewpoints are built on my idea that we all have a very powerful, but largely subconscious internal locust of control. So for those women, I would assume that they don't really want a relationship (for any variety of reasons) and use the excuse "I can't find a good man" as an excuse, and as a way of denying their own power over their situation. If they dealt with the underlying reason they didn't want to be in a relationship, I have no doubt that they would find a good enough man with relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:02 PM
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Check the data and you'll find that post OLD-world women are just having less random/casual sex. If all you care about is sex, which is kinda obvious, people will eventually figure you out and treat you as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:48 PM
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I don't see many people who view those standards as normal in women. Most people are keenly aware that it's an exceedingly small amount of men in the triple 6 club.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:42 PM
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No, you're just massively affected by your own cognitive bias and can't understand objectivity or the idea of multiple perspectives. (:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:14 PM
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Diligently working to make your spouse's life easier and better isn't the same as doing a friend a favor. Not all spouses need to do this ig, but that's what submission inside marriage means in the traditional, religious context. Mutually, diligently, working to make each other's lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:47 PM
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Dominance and submission are intertwined and paradoxical. Whenever you assert yourself, you also make yourself vulnerable and submissive in certain ways. Similarly, submitting yourself to someone allows you to dominate them in certain ways. It's nuanced, and that might not fly well in ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:22 PM
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Can't speak for other men, but to me the act of getting married on either end is extremely submissive. You're closing down your other options to love and hold one person. And combining your finances in most cases. Pretty submissive if ya ask me. The traditional marriage vows also imply behavioral submission. Lots of people suck and don't follow through, but the ideal is clearly mutual submission to one another. Please note I'm not referring to be a sexual submissive, which I FEEL is the conflati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:19 PM
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I bet you look great! Don't let social media brain poisoning do that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:13 PM
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I am happy to do things for people I've chosen to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:12 PM
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He literally just described a decent person with a healthy lifestyle. If you think those are high standards, it's probably just a projection of your own lifestyle not meeting those standards. Lol @ only 15% have healthy lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:08 AM
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Blue piller tone of voice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:05 AM
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Actually hilarious how everyone is acting like submission in marriage is a crazy thing to ask for. It's mutual. If your spouse asks you to do something, you should generally want to do it. Otherwise why are you married?? PPDers think that marriage is an FWB situation with a contract lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:01 AM
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Did OP's obvious snarkiness really go that far over your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:58 AM
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Plenty of men and women get together and do fine. Plenty of men and women are fine alone. What bugs me is people who have no money, no passion, and no direction in life acting like they're a prize to be won. My advice to young men would be to focus on the good things you already have, and grow from there. There's too much naval gazing about "the life you should be living." So no, don't LISTEN to what others have to say. Focus on your own inner world and figure out how you want to live a fulfilli…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:54 AM
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I dunno about morally wrong. But Id judge anyone who does that as a boring hypocrite. Cuz we're not discussing an exciting person dumping a partner who can't keep up. We're discussing someone who expects someone else to do all the work and carry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:49 AM
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that's okay, I'm sure ignoring you for 12 hours a day will help me cope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:08 PM
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damn a necrophile and a public selfie? careful ima fall in love
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:06 PM
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You sure you wanna bring moms into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:04 PM
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As someone who has had loved ones undergo unfortunate experiences, this is delusional. You don't always know who the creeps are until it's too late. Then you have a formerly upstanding man making comments about how her dress invited the attention. Accept the risk and consequences for your behavior, unless you generally don't have the mental faculties to understand implied risk. Which is a different conversation, with smaller words and simpler sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:01 PM
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That's not syntax.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:59 PM
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That's awesome that you can universally understand what every person means whenever they use empty-worded cliches!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:58 PM
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People who give respect, get respect. Includes how they act towards themselves. Don't deflect from the behavioral issues that are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:57 PM
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The only situation where I accept someone giving me a behavioral handbook is if they're paying me, and it's called an employee handbook. Women will try to gaslight you in a variety of ways. Just try and be a decent person in a way that makes sense to you. You don't owe people who haven't given you a reason to care about them. And it's fake AT BEST to pretend otherwise. People pleasing is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:56 PM
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I don't like the whole premise of stable vs exciting relationships, and then inevitably blaming attachment styles like every half-therapized poster has already done. It's a symptom of being a boring person. That's what it's called when you can't add excitement to your own life without drama. You're just a boring burden who relies on using others for entertainment. Droll.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:52 PM
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laughing emoji laughing emoji XD emoji laughing emoji laughing emoji laughing emoji
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:50 PM
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You could always be a black knight and be physically threatening to dudes who do this shit. They're really not as sneaky as anyone here is making them out to be. People talk big until its time to bite like you bark. Gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:48 PM
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How, exactly, are adult women supposed to protect girls when they're not around? Reducing risk assumption via behavioral advice and changes is probably the best thing they can do short of involving upstanding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:47 PM
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Not a single valid complaint has come from men on ppd? Hyperbole like that is a bit weird. It's hyperbole, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:42 PM
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You didn't engage with the second paragraph - it's weird and misogynistic to be perfectly okay with women taking victim stance, but not being okay with men doing the same. The correct response is to recognize it's pathetic and childish when either gender does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:41 PM
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If someone creates extra drama in my life as a means to assuage their insecurities, you're right, I don't want that person. If they can communicate like an adult, then I'm happy to help them understand that I'm fully committed as a partner. Doesn't sound like you possess the emotional security needed to be a reliable person for others, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:41 PM
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You wanna claim that you respect objectivity, but id guarantee that you claim any source that goes against your preferred narrative is biased, and if called out, protect yourself by claiming all sources have a bias. You absolutely denied his experiences by claiming he has a confirmation bias. I probably agree with you on more things than I do purple pillers and red pillers, but I just can't stand the dishonest debate tactics blue pillers employ while trying to debate from the side of good optics…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:08 AM
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Name a more iconic combination than blue pillers and denying other people's lived experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:24 AM
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Lmaooooo yallllll bruh wayyyyyy too much cap in ur post vruhhhhh Get a real personality. You prolly have zero good friends in general if that's how you communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:55 PM
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It's her fault for making friends with guys who obviously want to fuck her, yes. But I don't have that issue. And if you can't tell who wants to fuck you, sorry, I don't mean to patronize the autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:12 PM
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Bait, and I don't have this problem, I prefer platonic relationships in a vast majority of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:35 PM
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You can find someone stating every opinion that exists under the sun. That doesn't make it true. So if you want people to take the claim that men will have sex regardless of attraction seriously, you'll need some sort of proof. ... But it's more reasonable to assume that men find something attractive about the women they have sex with, even if they're not conventionally attractive. That said, your post and replies feel like bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:25 PM
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You can find someone stating every opinion that exists under the sun. That doesn't make it true. So if you want people to take the claim that men will have sex regardless of attraction seriously, you'll need some sort of proof. ... But it's more reasonable to assume that men find something attractive about the women they have sex with, even if they're not conventionally attractive. That said, your post and replies feel like bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:25 PM
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My conversations with women lead to guilty admissions that they do in fact know, but prefer not to make the rejections overt due to risk. I'm sure some women are different and keep zero guy friends. And it's not even a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:06 PM
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It's a grooming process that takes place in front of our eyes. The big rap beef in the early summer was largely about this very phenomenon, and how gross it is. In short, those rappers and their hoes are Not Like Us. They all belong to the streets and don't contribute anything of value beyond their tax contribution. Not even their own parents truly care about these people, or they wouldn't be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:44 PM
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Nah it's largely women's fault, they know when a guy is attracted. Plenty of things that aren't your fault, are your responsibility. Life is unfair. Not your fault, but it's your responsibility to deal w it. Pity parties get you worse than nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:44 PM
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Room for abuse predicts abuse. Education is the solution in that situation. But denying it happens damages the situations. People encourage each other to cheat and "play the field."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:02 PM
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Feminism, specifically choice feminism, has done a lot to enhance women's sexual entitlement. You could decry it as a false display of feminism, but you don't need to look far for women encouraging each other to do what is necessary to "meet their own needs".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:05 PM
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I think that there's been a basic amount of dishonesty since the advent of choice feminism alongside social media technologies. For those of us who don't, we need to call out men and women who act sneaky and take advantage of a bad situation. At least people who did/do it in bars are out in public owning their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:58 PM
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In reference to the OP, they refer to social media. Going out with the girlies functions in a similar way. People don't mean to be tempted in these situations - opening yourself up to the possibility of temptation is a red flag in itself. If you walk under enough birds, you'll eventually get shit on. Anything that can go wrong, will eventually go wrong. I feel like feminism used to be more antagonistic towards unwanted attention, but that's dialed back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:23 PM
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Nah, you're gonna hit the wall eventually. If you settle with a partner who you're not compatible with, and it's just superficial attraction, you get dumped when you do. Either for a younger partner, or someone with genuine compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:30 PM
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Only women can undo being used as the ball in male vs male competitions. You don't need to look far to see prestigious "men" who delight in tempting and ruining other people's relationship as if it's a badge of honor for their masculinity. Other men could and should also go back to getting violent w this type of men, but that's not in vogue right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:28 PM
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In patriarchy, it's not men vs women. It's men vs men, and women are the ball. Women need to quit letting themselves be the ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:24 PM
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The romantic education we're provided needs to be challenged and changed. It's not about desire and being desired. It's about moving through the struggles of genuine compatibility. Right now people do trial and error, while being barraged with societal pressure to conform to finding meaning in "the Chase". The people who get it need to be more honest, and stop treating the alternative as some sort of equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:24 PM
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No, the reason you're blue pilled is your inability to recognize patterns and think in complex patterns. So you follow the simplest and most emotionally comfortable option available. My first reply wasn't emotional, you just disregard things you dislike on an emotional level and then project your own flaws because you're midwitted. And I'll double down: you're clearly convinced more women would fuck you if it weren't for that pesky shame. It's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:09 PM
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I prefaced the reply with a warning that I was expressing emotion, mr self aware. Because I feel grossed out by you. I'm just glad that I'm not on reddit posting about slut shaming because someone didn't want to have sex with me when I thought the vibe was good. Maybe if you learned to express emotion instead of blaming society for your lack of sex, you'd get laid more. But I'm glad you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:42 AM
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Want a taste of emotion? Here you go: Sorry buddy, but you're the emotional one. Prioritizing pleasure over minimizing risk of unwanted pregnancy and sexual disease is emotional, feminine, and pathetic. Not to mention the psychological issues associated with sex addiction. But let me guess, psychologists are emotional too. And so are sexual health clinicians. And also gynecologists. But the poor slut shame. :'( It makes your little feel feels so sad. Piss off calling people emotional, pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:40 PM
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Shame is a healthy emotion that protects from unhealthy outcomes. They correspond to the violation of intuitive boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:00 PM
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I read plenty, but that doesn't change that young women laboring under "choice feminism" are the primary upholders of patriarchy. Girl boss feminism had some similar issues, but not to the same extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:01 PM
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You're just categorically incorrect, but don't worry! That's normal for blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:17 PM
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Very valid to hate bullies, respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:09 PM
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In long term partnerships, people want someone who enhances their security. So it makes sense that people's preferences map onto their insecurities: Men who are less confident in their dick game think they'll be less able to satisfy a woman if she has had lots of sexual experience. Women who are paranoid about men cheating once they have options will want someone who has a history of resisting temptations. Emotionally and sexually secure men and women will prioritize other factors, with possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:34 PM
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I haven't said you should be with anyone you don't want to. I'm saying that a prioritization of the self over living harmoniously with society is problematic for individuals and society. An example would be a father or mother who abandons their family to spend time in bars chasing tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:14 PM
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In this case, I think more needs to be done to address people's systematic turn towards narcissism since the lockdowns. People have more influence inside their in groups. While I don't associate with boys like that, I do what I can to step forward as a positive example of what a man is supposed to be. I understand that's not for everyone, but this opinion comes from a deep seeded place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:06 PM
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Absolutely! I do pretty well in life, and get lots of respect and positive attention everywhere I go. It's resulted in positive standards of behavior, and given me the privilege to be more selective with my social circles. And honestly I doubt if youve actually surrounded yourself with the ratchet women who have co-opted feminism. Though I do wish you'd decry these women and their abuses before western nations finish their free fall into reactionary conservatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:25 PM
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You're just uneducated on these terms. Choice feminism refers to the celebration of all choices or attitudes a woman makes/has. Feminism of 10 years ago was focused on female empowerment through education, respectable employment, and higher standards for what treatment women should expect in a relationship. Choice feminism enables women to act very similarly to the narcissistic frat boys that feminism used to so vehemently oppose. If being against narcissistic behavior is a red flag, then yes, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:18 PM
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It's possible to recognize the decay of feminism without blaming it for your problems (: Feminism from 10 years ago is not compatible with the choice feminism of today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:11 PM
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I feel like all of your anecdote is derived from talking to incels who hate women in general. Not from people dating overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:08 PM
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Most normal people feel like losers for being single or in lame relationships during their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:07 PM
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It's only worth doing for the top 5% of attractive women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:06 PM
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The unifying theme among passport bros seems to be that they want to be inherently valued by their partners. As dating becomes more difficult, and the threshold for being magnetic increases, it makes sense that people will seek other options where someone can adequately meet their needs. With Westerners being increasingly jaded by each other, it's an inevitable phenomenon. We all have such big egos. I'm only interested in dating local, but I can't blame men or women seeking to escape such a toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:58 PM
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Just sounds like a bad match to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:36 AM
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Right, but when such a large majority of people agree with me, it becomes a law. Funny how that one works. Maybe it shouldn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 AM
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You can be sexually interested and respectful at the same time. People in this sub are about to angrily inform you how awful being sexually respectful is, though. Lemme queue you in on a little secret OP: average, mediocre people don't want good people to succeed. It makes them feel bad. Once you understand that, and really understand that, life will get easier tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:04 AM
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Because they're flexing on other men "Oh you think your wife is such a good woman? Well she was a good little whore for me lmao" Edit: imo the whole thing of using women to prove your masculinity somehow comes off as gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:30 AM
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Sex work makes me feel nasty and gross on the inside, other types of work don't. Pretty simple?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:29 AM
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Because having people validate you for being tall shapes a person's personality if there's no grounding element
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:28 AM
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These trains of thoughts can be flipped pretty easily. Most people want a partner who doesn't have ultra superficial preferences. Didn't get that? You settled. The entire concept of worrying about settling is paranoia and anxiety at best. Tldr don't be a pussy and you'll be fiiiiiine
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:27 AM
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Just to be clear, you don't think our lifestyles and behaviors have anything to do with the likelihood of getting chronic diseases? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:10 AM
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That's great. I'm more concerned with what impacts a person has on others than an ideological purity test. If someone has all the right ideas but all they do is post on Twitter, they're still a worse person than a mixed bag who volunteers and gives to charity. It's what we do that defines us, everything else is hypothetical make believe. I could easily hold all feminists accountable to TERF ideology, for example, and blame them for a failure to maintain control over mainstream feminist narrative…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:54 PM
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To some people, sure, to others, it's something else entirely. Taking things to logical extremes and then projecting that onto others is an extremely limited perspective. Your world exists in your head. Just because X person has X understanding of Z topic, doesn't mean Y person will have a remotely similar perspective. You could insist that your perspective is fact based and is correct, but all you'll achieve is a limited ability to understand others. Many, many people are comfortable filtering …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:22 PM
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Almost all ideologies make people "bad" when taken to their logical extreme. But there's also room for people to scrape the surface and realize that people pleasing isn't a positive way to gain romantic relationships with others. If someone takes that to the logical extreme of, reform your identity to dominate women, then yes, they are awful. I can make similar positive and negative outlooks on any given ideology. It's the individual and how they choose to use their tools that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:55 PM
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Oh nice can you link me your thesis on these incredibly complex topics? You sound well informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:00 AM
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All people have the risk of being violent lmfao. Repressed trauma is a way, hidden red flags, are more dangerous than a person who has resolved their traumas. I said you should feel silly, not that you do! It doesn't upset me, I just know your fear will cause you to abandon your boyfriend at some point, and he prolly doesn't deserve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:33 AM
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You shouldn't feel guilty, you should feel silly and hypocritical for having toxic standards that dehumanize people's potential for growth. For example, Id recommend your boyfriend also take you back once you've grown up a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:17 PM
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Red pillers can be bad people, and it will have nothing to do with the validity of their views. They're not strawmen, they're examples of reactionaryism from multiple pop political camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:59 PM
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I'm lucky enough to have met lots and lots of people. Once the past has been dealt with, and the demons are put on a leash, I think there's a happy relationship out there for everyone. If you'd like more on this perspective, I suggest reading the Courage to be Disliked. It's a challenging read, but new perspectives can help.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:57 PM
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And if shes not, but realizes you hold people's past against them, shell dump you for something from your past that you're not proud of. See how that works? But I am sorry for how your ex treated you. You didn't deserve that, and most people suck dick (pun intended)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:56 PM
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I choose not to because most people aren't a good match for me, and I have other bigger priorities in this season of my life. I wouldn't get rid of the desire. There's always hope that you'll meet someone who has dealt with their past of toxic relationships and is in a good place where it makes sense to date. (:
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:47 PM
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Id advise your current boyfriend to dump you based on this post. People who say things like "if x is in their past, well id have to dump them" are why people lie about their past. You found someone youre attracted to, who you're happy with (assumption), who you place arbitrary conditions on their past for continued relationship. What? Focus on the person you're with in the present, stop worrying about the past to try and control your future. Karma and a guilty conscience will come for you in a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:45 PM
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Did you just compare works of art to beauty enhancement products? That's not how that works. Drop all the paid privilege and what does a person have? It's a core principle of multiple world religions. If you have a problem with people rebelling against societal pressure to improve in superficial ways, you're a part of the sickness. Cuz you're not talking about brushing your teeth and taking care of your cardiovascular health. What sort of self esteem do you need to possess to have this sort of v…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:35 PM
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I want everyone to take good care of themselves, cuz people deserve to live healthy lives inside healthy bodies. Karma comes after people who don't. So forgive me, but don't call yourself a feminist if you're on the "all opinions are valid and equal" line. You're a narcissistic enabler at best. Can't change or control other people's opinions and have boundaries? Valid. Celebrating every fart that comes out of people's mouths? What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:32 PM
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Using other people's views as an excuse for your own is reactionary. "The red pill has a point but Tate is toxic!!" "Leftists wanna take away my rights so I need to have muh guns" "I need feminism to enable me towards whatever I want because men are rapists!!" "Israel is justified because of Arab terrorism!" "Arab freedom fighters are justified because of Israeli oppression in Gaza!!" You all have the exact same half baked thought patterns. It's soooo tiring. You've probably never been the type …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:29 PM
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If the only thing that matters to you is how you feel from moment to moment, you're gonna have a bad life while you chase highs. People don't say this because they want you to date an uggo. They want you to date someone who is sustainable and get off the emotional roller coaster. From the bottom of my heart, people like this need to grow up. The behavior is for underage teenagers, not legal adults meant to provide for themselves and live harmoniously with society. Smart women already know this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:25 PM
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Conditional and transactional aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:32 AM
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And others are entitled to call them nasty, home wrecking whores. Becoming desirable and immediately abusing the privilege speaks volumes of a person's character regardless of gender. Not keen on raising a little girl while knowing there's predators like that lurking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:58 PM
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People who are incapable of a loving relationship, resort to transactional relationships that mirror a coworker relationship. Oops
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:56 PM
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It seems difficult to reach this without recognizing that it's necessary because women by and large won't Approach/Escalate/Process with men they're genuinely interested in. Which isn't very palatable for blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:54 PM
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And once again, a blue pill flair deliberately misses the point to maintain their own narrative. It's insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:23 PM
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No, they report people treating them less nicely. You sound paranoid, might wanna talk to someone about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:22 PM
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What are your thoughts on trans men who claim they feel sad after they transition and realize how much they benefited from benevolent sexism? Are they just making it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:19 PM
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Lots of men can tell the difference between a natural makeup look and a plain face. If you can't believe people who say they don't like makeup, then idk. Men like pretty women, but they don't like women who pour enormous amounts of time and money into fake meeting that perception. Similarly, I assume women who like tall guys don't want men to wear 3 inch lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:59 PM
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Employers tend to stretch the truth quite a lot. Do what you gotta do to get ur bag, so long as ur not hurting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:11 AM
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Sorry, wasn't my goal to act like that. I get a lil overly aggressive when I feel someone isn't empathizing with the other side, and that's on me. Strongly agree w the social isolation. I don't think that inferior / superior / equal are particularly useful terms when I think about this problem. Most relationships have a desirer and a desiree. Obviously there's gotta be some mutual give n take there in both directions. Somehow I get the impression that boys are socialized to expect women to desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:01 AM
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Emotional support doesn't have much to do with intellectual achievements. If he said that as a say to get out of offering support (my dad pulled this) then yea I'd be mad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:51 PM
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I'm starting to really appreciate the blue pill flairs as a warning of a toxic gaslighter. The blue pill, capitalist narrative of love is so dehumanizing and disgusting. It's slacker friendly, because it gives an easy out to dismiss, disregard, and blame people who are mentally unhappy with their struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:49 PM
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Idk the entire premise feels dishonest. I don't think anything you said is wrong, which makes it tricky. And I understand that "trad" men don't have perfect dating lives either. Yeah the OP is way too focused on random superficial traits, but it's not too difficult for me to map the frustrations onto a situation where a person is trying their best, but ultimately just spinning their wheels. There are other areas in life where I make similar criticisms of the disconnect between stated standards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:33 PM
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Multiple things can be true at once. There can be people who can't change their behavior because of covertly narcissistic traits. But there can also be people who are straight up dishonest about their preferences and priorities in an attempt to make political gains for their ingroup by projecting virtue. Unfortunately, the storm created by these two groups is spilling over and increasingly creating opportunity for extremist strongmen to rise to power with a promise that they'll fix it. If respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:54 PM
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It seems like you're deliberately missing the point of these male frustrations? Many men are raised to TREAT women as equals. People who describe this type of upbringing often have trouble dating. So yes, it can be perplexing to guys when the only way that treating women as equals offset that behavior with other desirable attributes such as height (physique generally is more accurate). This isn't super difficult to grasp, so what's the deal? If you enjoy reaping the benefits of an equal society,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:48 PM
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I have never seen data to support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:29 AM
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Idk it seems like you're just mad that older men want to give attention to younger women instead of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:27 AM
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I think you're trolling, but if not, seek medical attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:24 AM
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Nah, you're a liar. You just said some weird, inaccurate shit, and when you got questioned on it, you lied. Imagine being so insecure that you need to lie to protect your fragile reddit ego. Get a therapist who does something other than inflate your narcissistic ego, liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:21 AM
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You expressed that exact sentiment in your above posts. This has nothing to do with gender - what's it like to be a terrible fucking person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:16 AM
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Anything to back up the claim that most of the women on here are sheltered conservative women that are looking for trad husbands? Cuz it seems like you invented it out of convenience lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:51 AM
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the world could definitely use a little depopulation. Oh? Which groups of people deserve to be depopulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:00 AM
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Sure, but it's an issue of artificial scarcity. The US, for example, is richer than it's ever been - but it is doing a worse and worse job of distributing its economic resources so that young adults can establish themselves as real adults. We don't need to be living in a Chad Ruled Dystopia for our society's quality of life to be trending downward to an unsustainable level. Dawgy dawg dawggg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:41 AM
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Dawg this is a post about how society is run systematically. Personal anecdotes have not a single small little thing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:34 AM
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Okay you realize that my post is shaming men and women who use others for their own sexual release, right? I'm talking about people who don't take accountability for how they show up in the lives of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:08 PM
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I never said that it's about women refusing to hookup. That's a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:05 PM
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What? There's not going to be a civil war. Get your head out of the clouds. I'm talking about basic policy developments in the country. This is a debate sub, not a circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:35 AM
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The only comments you accept are ones that blame men for everything, and shield women from any criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:10 AM
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Do you realize how mentally insufficient this makes you look? Just cuz I won't suck you off doesn't mean I'm on the other teams side, good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:09 AM
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Whether or not we're promoting attitudes and behaviors that help people fall into healthy relationships is a community issue. And if you can't see that's important, you'll end up without community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:08 AM
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No, I blame chauvinistic and reactionary men for lots of things. Accountability doesn't pick sides, or make special allowances based on gender. NORMAL PEOPLE don't like narcissistic men and narcissistic women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:06 AM
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So what you did there is called a strawman. I never said that it's extreme to have relationship preferences, so this isn't a retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:04 AM
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What's this about you guys? I'm minding my own business and taking care of myself. Meanwhile, conservatives are making real ground at taking away women's rights. I have women in my life I care about. I don't want that to happen. But since extremists keep pushing the centrists who decide elections further right, we're fucked. Pretending that patriarchal organization is ineffective and limited to online spaces is insanely stupid. Good grief. Have you heard of the republican party??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:03 AM
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Because we have historically seen that large groups of angry men is a prelude to a successful fascist reactionary taking place. And once that happens, you'll have no choice but to actually do what random men want. That's not the future I want, but it seems like that's where we're headed in the West. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:38 PM
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No one is intimately involved in anyone's sex life, except for states where abortion and contraception are being legally restricted. Other people's judgement does not prevent anyone from acting as they please. But take a look around the country. Men are starting to band together in retaliation, and it's taking the shape of undoing the ACTUAL LEGAL PROGRESS that we've made. How did progressivism and feminism devolve into a "me, me, me" culture like this. It's so sad. No wonder we couldn't achieve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:31 PM
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I would hate to be connected to a person who is more focused on what freedoms they SHOULD have versus accepting their surroundings and making choices to keep themselves safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:30 PM
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That's a very interesting perspective. What advice would you give to those people who are inexperienced who have internalized those messages?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:29 PM
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Promoting and enabling ideologies with such an EXTREME focus on individuality is weird. Chauvinistic men who take advantage of women's reactive sexual desire are parasites when they don't seek help. Feminist women who take zero accountability for how they show up in the lives of others for gendered reasons are similar. I recognize your post is saying that individual choices shouldn't be so threatening/rejecting, but it's important to recognize when individual choices are part of larger societal …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:27 PM
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People often only consider the groups they're attracted to as real Men/Women. Questions of "where have all the good men/women gone" really mean: "why don't men/women who I'm attracted to treat me better?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:22 PM
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And yet you replied anyway. Maybe I'm not autistic, and you just have BPD. Did you know that women with BPD often insist that men they dislike are autistic? You probably have BPD. Did your mom have BPD too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:41 AM
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Two things because this comment is insanely insulting: Using the term autistic to demean other people's emotional desire for consistency is not cool. Putting forgive me before it makes it worse, because it seems like you know how gross that sort of ableist language is. Claiming YOUR reality as the objective state of all people's reality is indicative of mental instability. Citing your current relationship as totally perfect does nothing to address the dissonance that I described. And you've move…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:32 PM
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I hear you, it makes sense that women want men who are able to make them feel desired as a woman. No one could be faulted for that. What do you think about this: a lot of those standards are linked to male privilege. Especially the finances to provide for another person. There's also a connection to patriarchal misogyny and giving women special social treatments. I don't see how it's possible to resolve the cognitive dissonance of wanting a more equitable world, while selectively requiring roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:00 PM
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He's saying that the attitudes of progressive women make even these behaviors unpalatable for a self respecting person. And no, people want to find a partner who they are attracted to. Stop coming up with weird, arbitrary measures. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:27 PM
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Whenever a man/woman is dating someone they say is a "great person", but they feel like something is missing, it indicates that there's a problem with the man/woman - not their partner. It indicates an inability to communicate and work with someone as a partner. If anyone ever told me that their ex was a Great Person, but something was missing and they had to move on, I would refuse to become attached to them unless they can tell me what was missing, and why they feel like their next relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:35 PM
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All people should embrace nurturing characteristics. For the sake of their health, people should avoid acting like a characateur of their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:00 PM
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If you cannot define what it would look like for your needs to be met, and communicate them to a partner who matches your preferences in a way they understand, It's you. Finding a new partner won't change that. There's something wrong with you on an emotional level which prevents you from loving others. And that's fine, but probably go to therapy instead of telling everyone how your obvious avoidant attachment is you being a boss girl who don't settle. Ffs lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:55 PM
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It's often bad when emotionally immature people attempt to socialize with others. Pill eaters often point out self-contradictory preferences that people have. It's not hard to grasp. If people were more honest and consistent about their desires and expectations, all areas of life would work more smoothly. Whenever either gender offloads the burden of responsibility for a relationship onto the other, it's unproductive. Individual men and women should take responsibility for their emotions and des…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:51 PM
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Hope you have a daughter who becomes a hoe so I can sexually take advantage of her in this way 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:22 PM
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This is the dating checklist of a lesbian who hasn't come to terms with it yet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:49 PM
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The moderators of this subreddit might realize you're making a post about a particular woman who posts here, be careful. This could be someone's big shot to impress -redacted-.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:46 PM
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Men who get their share of meaningless sex also tend to have an easy time walking away from the dating scene until they're emotionally mature enough for a real relationship. It's 100% a "grass is always greener" situation. I'm jealous of people who didn't compromise their values in order to get sexual access to young women. And people who don't compromise their values are jealous of the ones who did. Honesty is truly the best policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:26 PM
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If a guy like that feels like he's being taken for granted, it's his job to communicate what he wants, and if she can't or won't deliver, it's his job to leave. Grown adults claiming victimhood without having a ball + chain attached to them are disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:32 PM
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You're being a liar. He specifically refers to relationships in his first couple sentences and never refers to sex. Aside from lying, anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:09 PM
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A person who is constantly doing "emotional labor" is just self reporting as inauthentic. Idk if "women act fake to advantage themselves more often than men" is the flex they think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:48 PM
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All you do is make attacks on people you perceive as being against women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:45 PM
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Why are you still spewing this nonsense. We've already demonstrated that the strategies you're describing are exclusive to boundaryless predators. You need to quit encouraging people on here towards predatory behavior. These are highly impressionable redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:44 PM
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Whenever I Google evidance nothing related to that comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:42 PM
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No, the OP's post is about women who make different men jump through different hoops for a relationship. At no point does it mention sex. I am talking about boundaries primarily as they apply to heterosexual relationships between men and women - from everything to hookups to long term relationships. Based on your last paragraph, it seems like you do have consistent boundaries in some areas, which is great. But it's still problematic whenever people move faster than they normally would based on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:41 PM
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What is evidance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:42 PM
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I'm still waiting on someone else to build the website that I will take credit for. Coming next week, but you can PayPal me directly to be an exclusive beta tester.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:14 PM
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I feel bad for the kids who get produced by situations like this. And it's common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:13 PM
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Another ad hominem. This is a debate subreddit, but all you do is try to discredit others without engaging with them. I'm still waiting for you to give an actual response to anything I've said. P.S. I went to university, not community college.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:07 PM
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You have no proof for anything that you're claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:04 PM
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Strawman. I do not keep explaining what boundaries are to you specifically. They are relevant to the conversation at hand. Another strawman. I never said that connection means zero boundaries. I said having different standards in different situations indicates a lack of boundaries. Doubling down on the above strawman. Being comfortable with someone can be within your boundaries. But if youre being tolerant of behaviors you normally wouldn't, you lack boundaries. Ad hominem to strengthen the stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:03 PM
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Off the top of my head: -If one or both parties are too drunk to properly consent. -If one or both parties have a history of compulsive sexual behaviors. -If there's a significant power discrepancy (college professors, employers) -If anyone involved is already in a relationship. And tons more situations where the desire to have sex may be destructive/inappropriate to act on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:43 PM
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From my perspective, you're either super fortunate to have positive experiences with emotional connection without boundaries. Or you're unable to tell when people are taking advantage of emotional connections. Either way, I'm confused as to why you think connections are separate from boundaries. Even if you love someone and have a deep connection, there's probably things you won't do for them. That's what a boundary is. Emotional connection without boundaries can easily lead to codependency and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:36 PM
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Whenever a person uses a 'boundary' to control the world around them, that's not what licensed therapists consider a boundary. That's just a controlling person. Boundaries occur when a person realizes certain behaviors are not good for them. Like a recovering alcoholic who chooses not to drink. They may also realize they need to avoid people who do drink. It's about power over yourself to avoid unhealthy behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:32 PM
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I would like you to stop writing fanfic that doesn't actually happen
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:25 PM
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It seems like you have very positive morals, but not everyone is like you. What you're describing is dangerous because it's insanely easy to take advantage of. In all walks of life (romantic, professional, social, family) maintaining boundaries is a part of maintaining a stable adult identity. I suggest paying more attention to where your personhood ends, and where others begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:24 PM
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The game has changed radically in recent years, and the practical advice from people with no skin in the game is often out of touch. Me, on the otherhand, I give REAL advice based on the hundreds of women I've slept with. Please donate to my patreon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:54 PM
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Okay, but what if I'm below age 30 and don't want to be homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:50 PM
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I'm pointing out that the female dating 'strategy' you described is inherently based on trauma and poor boundaries. Leave my unusually large genitals out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:39 PM
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A person with inconsistent boundaries is an immature person at best. A person without any boundaries is inherently predatory. For many people who act these ways, it's because their parents failed to teach them boundaries and self respect. Luckily, there's lots of therapists available for people who are struggling with self esteem. Genuine help and care are available. (from professionals, not weirdo gurus.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:34 PM
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Hey Bambi, it's interesting that your mind jumped straight to fanfic. Anyway, this was a lazy reply, I hope you were in a half-asleep state when you wrote it! Dismissing the entire post with no engagement is about what I'd expect, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:31 PM
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Men take it personally when someone has trust issues in the beginning phases of a relationship. Which is reasonable. People lugging around baggage need to find a therapist. Women hate it when their boyfriends have weird boundaries due to past relationships too. People with fake friends who pretend to be supportive no matter what are most susceptible to this behavior. They're looking for more enablers, not genuine connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:28 PM
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No, some people just traumatize themselves by having sex with people they're not emotionally compatible with. If you're emotionally compatible the timing isn't that deep. Redditors love their epic casual sexerino and can't work that out tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:25 PM
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This is just the long term psychological effects of being attracted to guys who pump-n-dump. You've been getting ruled out as unstable by the guys who are uncomfortable w that dynamic. If you talk to a therapist, which I recommend, you'll have a safe place to discuss the shame you feel about your past, and then you can quit taking things out on people you're emotionally attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:22 PM
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You talk like the women who later complain about how they got manipulated into a relationship 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:20 PM
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If you want respect all you need to do is give respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:16 AM
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Feeling entitled to something you are not in fact entitled to is bad. Feeling entitled to something you are entitled to is okay. There's zero reason to put a concept like entitlement as an inherently bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:52 PM
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Yeah, there's truths about humanity that transcend people's individual personal preferences. I would suggest reading Abolition of Man if you want more perspective on why this sort of relativism is both dangerous and ahistorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:43 PM
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You are entitled to fair treatment in all walks of life. The moment you give up that entitlement, you will be taken advantage of. It's weird that you rope off romantic relationships as an area where people should not be entitled to decent treatment. You are entitled to boundaries and preferences within your own romantic life. You are not entitled to control other people who do not want to treat you well. Both things are true. But writing off all entitlement as bad incel is juvenile. I don't resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:41 PM
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Cool - now let's expand that. Whenever people are engaged in public society, it's reasonable to be entitled to certain treatments from strangers. You are entitled, for example, to your place in line. If I cut you in line at the cashier, I strongly encourage you to advocate for your entitlement to that place in line. Similarly, you are reasonably entitled to fair treatment from acquaintances, whether they be romantic or platonic acquaintances. These are called boundaries. When you enforce your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:13 PM
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You are entitled to certain things within a relationship. You are entitled to boundaries and the right to project your preferences as an equal in the relationship. So many of you have never been abused by an entitled person, and it shows. Those who refuse to accept their entitlement will be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:02 PM
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Nah, you all started with entitlement = bad incel. So, gotcha. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:35 PM
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All you've done is say entitlement is bad and make ad hominem attacks. Anything else you want to get off your chest?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:04 PM
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I think you're probably just a bunch of nerdy redditors who constantly lose to people who act entitled. And this is a way to make yourselves feel better. You sure are entitled to your own moral superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:14 PM
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I'm saying that the way you use language implies there's no truths greater than an individual's limited perspective. It's radical and dangerous language. But reddit is an extremist hub, so you'll get patted on the back for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:05 PM
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Lmfao get a therapist for your dreadful self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:01 PM
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You're literally just a sophist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:59 PM
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You seem entitled to having people bow down to the way you use language 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:54 PM
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You're not giving any specific examples. I seem to be the only person in this thread who can list examples of when a person is entitled vs when they're not. Bit weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:53 PM
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We have laws that literally protect your entitlement to your belongings. Otherwise, anyone could just take your stuff and then say you aren't entitled to it anyway. Do you place these sorts of value judgements on lots of words?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:51 PM
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You are entitled to anything that someone has agreed to give you. You are entitled to whatever device you are typing these comments into, assuming it's not stolen. You are not entitled to other people's things unless they agree to share with you. Jesus Christ, it's not complicated, you're just afraid of being perceived as entitled. It's not that deep bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:49 PM
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I have a linguistics background so my views might be niche. But from what I've seen, large groups of people often co-opt a word's meaning and reframe it as a part of their optical performance in society. In this case, a lot of people have taken entitled as an inherently negative word. They claim they are the opposite of entitled, and claim people they dislike are extremely entitled. It's a style of language that ignores the ideas of academic rigour, unconscious bias, scientific process, objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:44 PM
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If you and I agree to XYZ situation, then it makes sense if we both feel entitled to XYZ situation. It would be weird if I considered myself entitled to XYZ situation with you before the agreement. But afterwards it makes sense. I'm pointing out that people who claim entitlement is inherently bad are dumb at best, and fake at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:39 PM
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I'm pointing out that you frame entitlement as a negative thing because you are a people pleaser. Ironically, people often attempt to minimize their optical entitlement in order to maximize their practical entitlement. "See everybody? I don't need anything, look how special boy I am. Now give me attention." If a person works a job, they are entitled to their paycheck. A child is entitled to their parents love. All people are entitled to clean water. People who claim they're not entitled to these…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:37 PM
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Another commenter proving OP's point. This is an awesome thread OP, well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:29 PM
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All people objectify each other. You are not entitled to being the only subject in the world. Fend for yourself, stop asking others to do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:29 PM
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There is nothing wrong with feeling entitled in situations where you've earned things. By your description, the difference in wanting something and entitlement is confidence and self esteem. You are entitled to having your basic human needs met, and that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:27 PM
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There's not a significant difference in what you just described, just a lot more negativity in the second descriptor. Brain rot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:24 PM
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That's fair, I'm probably too used to Pillers on all sides trying to push bio-essential truths that devalue the concept of personal growth and adulthood. I don't mean to put older generations on a pedestal - I just mean that they seem less judgemental/paranoid about the behaviors of the other gender. Though they do seem just as susceptible to echo chambers as their offspring. Blah. Addict mindsets make empathy a million times harder. Sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:33 PM
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This reads like you saw some guy who you viewed as a late bloomer, thought he'd be easy to control, but ultimately got rejected by them. Maybe it's nothing to do with any of that. Maybe he just didn't like how you act. Can't say I blame him, based on this post. Calling someone autistic while posting in PPD seems like throwing stones in a glass house, lmao. edit: Skimmed your profile. Please find a therapist before you end up hurting yourself. Help is available, you are loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:26 PM
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Not being able to read people is a skill issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:17 PM
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I feel like there's a lot of bio-essentialism that is lurking in this reply. What's so wrong with equal standards? If someone can't be educated towards the value of positive social behaviors, regardless of gender, what does that imply about that person? We all know men and women who are marvelous people, so let's quit using gender as an excuse. Doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman - using aggression and control over others to cope with your emotions is destructive. Regardless of gender, peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:15 PM
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Thanks for the quality reply! I read this a couple times before replying. I think it's interesting that he frames it that way, like he had no control over his life whatsoever. Plenty of people get brainwashed on some Jesus stuff (sadly), but a lot of them still act toxic. The average bible bumper doesn't practice what they preach. Even if he had those values forced on him, living by them to his own detriment speaks to innate quality of character. I dunno about leadership, but people who don't pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:47 PM
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you literally just want to take advantage of vulnerable people for your own sexual pleasure lol. You just said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:31 PM
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I hope you get doxxed as someone who recommends using traumatized people for fun 👍👍👍 Seems like an opinion you should own publicly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:08 PM
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Have you ever given much thought to how patriarchy intersects with the trauma of boyhood, and how these roles that men are being locked into are eerily similar to the ones patriarchy forces on women? A good ending is great, but this is such a weird spot to leave this comment. Individual women seem totally ignorant to the ways that patriarchy targets young boys and young girls in unique ways. From my perspective, your man isn't a nice guy at all. Nice isn't the word for someone who resisted the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:07 PM
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This was tricky to decipher. So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. I agree that a lot of therapy advice that benefits individuals is likely to cause massive problems if enough people were to adopt the behaviors, and it's not limited to just this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:03 AM
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Sex work isn't real work. You are white knighting for sex workers and junkies. I care because I want people to recognize you as a degenerate. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:16 PM
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Right, because you hang out in echo chambers. Go be sexually open in any normal workplace and lmk how it goes. Real people recognize it as creepy. Stop white knighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:18 PM
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The only way to think this discourse is normal is if you're terminally online. People in real life are normal and don't like when sex freaks are open with others 🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:13 PM
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What is the point of saying something like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:08 PM
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Reads like someone who is pro-cheating but won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:07 PM
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That's because sex positive people are largely those things you described. Progressives of this style across the country are being shunned from corporations as the adults in the room realize that their behaviors are predatory and destructive. 13 states losing abortion wasn't enough to ring your alarm, maybe a Trump re-election will. Wonder which precious right your own behavior will cause you to lose next.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:05 PM
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not only a loser, but a sore loser ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:12 AM
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spoken like someone who would repeatedly lose to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:54 AM
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Nah, I just win without being selfish. You're the type of dude to cheat on a test and still get a worse score 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:48 AM
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Tate exposed the strategies that men use to pickup women. People have always been doing that, but the participants didn't feel the need to give up the game and make a website about how it works until recently. That said, women who refuse to actively participate in the first part of courting rituals, more or less need Andrew Tate style men or they never find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:27 AM
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Successful and wealthy aren't the same thing. Wealthy implies you were born rich. Successful implies you learned to earn new things for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:23 AM
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Again, if you're on some fuckboy shit, self respecting men will ex-communicate you. There's no need to have men and women in your life that act like dignity is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:22 AM
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if all the grown men in your life are passive and avoidant, I suggest finding new men to associate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:20 AM
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Correct, many people have traumatized backstories, and telling those people to use emotional decision making will cause damage in their lives. Most Americans can't design their own diet without getting fat, miss me with the "pErSoNaL fReEdOm" argument THX
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:19 AM
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nah, successfully navigating through life is super classist tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:38 AM
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go hang out with grown men, who have lived their full lives, and complain about how women are using you to them. You will get laughed out the door. Talk to them about the importance of holding frame, and you will get laughed out the door. None of this shit holds up off the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:31 AM
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Then you're every bit as pathetic as feminists who refused to change their label after weirdo narcissists co-opted their entire movement via social media. fucking pills lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:29 AM
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Notice that it comes down to feelings for you. And then when other people don't relate to your feelings, you say they're being used. It's almost like you may be more insecure and sensitive than the people you think are getting used
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:28 AM
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Because the things red pill men are insecure about, and the behaviors they use to cope, are incompatible with socially successful men. Maybe it's a poor people disconnect idk!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:27 AM
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You were even more bothered by these call outs than the most mentally flat women who post in this subreddit 😰 nice frame you got there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:25 AM
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You are a giant crybaby if you feel "used" for everytime you don't get your way. No way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:24 AM
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Trust me it's very apparent that you're in sore need of positive male role models. Maybe join the cub scouts?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:23 AM
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you are literally pressed because someone on the internet is making fun of your red pill club. maybe you should ya know, get outside and hang out with people who have a frame, instead of reading about it from internet grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:22 AM
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Red pillers trying to do blue pill condescension is criiiiinge and you're not good at it. Maybe look up an Andrew Tate video on insults and try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:20 AM
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Because the red pill is exclusively driven by insecurity and needing external things to go your way to feel okay if you're using "hold your frame" because you wanna get laid, you don't have a frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:49 PM
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Did someone get their feelings hurt that they didn't get told how big and strong man they are when they were helpful one time? 😖😰😖😰🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:47 PM
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Again, you wouldn't say any of this around normal men with well balanced lives. I'm sorry that your dad didn't give you enough attention, but there's more to life than getting seggs. Which red pill men do not actually get more of. Fuckin virgins with keyboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:46 PM
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If you were a "high value man" in the presence of decent men with wives and families, I bet you'd be intimidated away from TRP behaviors. Because RP men aren't real men 😋 just shy lil boys puffing their chest out at the scary women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:26 PM
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caring about only yourself is for bad women and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:24 PM
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People's behavior can absolutely be conditioned, challenged, helped, etc. You cant control specific individuals behavior, sure. But this can't be a reason we collectively stop incentivizing people towards community-friendly behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:23 PM
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Claudia Goldin won a nobel prize this year for her work examining the pay gap over the centuries. She found the modern pay gap largely activates after a family's first child is born. It's not because people are massively discriminating against women's success. And before you get defensive and hostile to twist the narrative, just stop. Your last sentence makes it clear you have no interest in compromising or understanding the contributions of people who aren't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:01 AM
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Not how your life works* Other people have to be the adults in their own lives and work things out, or fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:55 AM
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If they're agreeing to that type of relationship, they're not high value men. People are free to prioritize however they wish. But you should be ashamed if your conception of high value is a man who fucks random women without commitment. If you have issues with intimacy, high chance it is a reflection of what you consider to be valuable for intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:54 AM
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So you thought it was appropriate to bring up neurodivergence because someone brought up mental health institutions which are proven to address these issues? No one said anything about measuring and counting. You have been hostile off the bat because I asked what women can do to change their circumstances. Shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:35 PM
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Leaving things down to luck is a recipe for failure. Adults make their own luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:27 PM
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I agree that people should be healthy. But that's not really proactive for dating. I also think if you want a job, you need to be applying for it. Waiting for recruiters to come to you drastically increases chances of working for a shifty company.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:26 PM
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Hanging around hoping a need gets met without communicating anything, other than trying to be appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:41 PM
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Why are you calling me autistic? Because I said it's not inexplicable magic? Do you know more than trauma therapists who have spent years studying this academically? But sure, bring up an intellectual disability while you make references to needing magical coincidences to have a love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:39 PM
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God save all the women who want to do a hobby for the hobby's sake. And God save hobbyists like me who hate seeing all hobby spaces turn into a highschool dating environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:36 PM
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I don't agree at all, there's plenty of great sources on love and connection. For example, trauma theory suggests that love feels like a magical mystery due to childhood attachment issues, which we have clinical methods for addressing. If there's simply nothing you can do and you're at the mercy of the magical world, well, best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:30 PM
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Solid, but again, I feel like if this is the endpoint, its eerily similar to pick me girl dating strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:24 PM
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imo that double standard reveals the blue pill's misogyny. And it sucks because it's a very sneaky form of misogyny that minimizes personal responsibility for an entire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:23 PM
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Do you think telling women that "exist publicly and be interesting so that people approach you" is the best advice? I can see a variety of ways that this backfires on all parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:22 PM
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So there's zero difference between the behaviors of the women who find themselves in healthy relationships, and those who find themselves in toxic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:07 PM
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I agree its good advice. But I still feel like this still places women in particular in a position where they're just crossing their fingers that a good man just magically appears in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:17 PM
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Those seem like tools for avoiding bad relationships, no? In your opinion, what sort of things could a single woman do to proactively help set herself up for a successful relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:01 PM
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Yeah that's more or less identical to the advice I'd give men to land themselves in a good relationship. It's weird though: I don't normally see the advice given to women in the same context, it's normally framed in the context of self-care. Barbie movie did a reasonably good job of framing why this creates bad dynamics IMO. It'll be a while before median men understand they need to do self-care for its own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:59 PM
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Makes sense and I get that, but what sort of things can women do to find themselves in a relationship where they don't feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:55 PM
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What sorts of things can women do to find a good relationship vs a bad relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:50 PM
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What sort of things can women do to help land themselves in good relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:49 PM
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What sort of things do you think women should do to establish a good relationship? Bad relationship vs single seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:44 PM
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Do you think that there's any drawbacks to meeting your needs in these ways versus having a good relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:43 PM
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What sorts of things can women do to find a good relationship? Are the only choices being single or a bad relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:39 PM
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What are you even going on about lol his her his her his her Shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuuuuuuuup Everything from the writing style to the word choice made me wanna die. I don't want feminists to be stupid, so I hope you're not a feminist!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:52 AM
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Planthoe30 thinks it's unrealistic that women would be trusting and compassionate towards their partners insecurity. Color me shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:19 AM
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Tech companies will be placed in prisoner's dilemma unless regulations are made across the board. For example, Twitch.TV attempted to (rightfully) stop their streamers from promoting gambling. That decision created room for Stake to create kick.tv which is happy to host all the high engagement content that is too edgy for Twitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:26 PM
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I would agree with you strongly 10 years ago, but it seems like tech companies struggle immensely to be profitable unless they're being run in the most exploitive way possible. Uber is a good case study for how it goes from "This is awesome and tech is making things more accessible to everyone". Until ten years later and we find all the hidden costs of the gig economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:10 PM
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Like I said, the behaviors of toxic people are not excused just because they're reactionary to other toxic people, or even due to emotional pain. I don't think that the problem of ragebait / toxic content can be solved by anyone but the tech companies who stand to profit massively from this. But I do think that on the grassroots level, people need to move away from the culture war lines, and focus on behaviors. Not who is carrying them out. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:15 PM
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All I asked was what good has social media created, relax. People were able to publicize events very well before social media, I don't think that can reasonably be claimed as a benefit. Flea markets also existed before social media. Grass roots information sharing - yeah that's absolutely a benefit of social media, though it seems less effective as tech companies get more cozy with authoritarian governments and corporations. Learn new skills - yeah that's fair, you can learn anything on YouTube.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:07 PM
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I'm pointing something out about your implicit bias, not the topic. Even when you used quotations and said "bad things are bad", you couldn't bring yourself to say that toxic women are bad. It's problematic that you can't make an easy concession without being paranoid about what that concession implies. The logical conclusion to "toxic 18 year old women and toxic 30 year old men are both bad", is that neither party's toxic behavior excuses the other, even if they are behaving in reaction to one …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:01 PM
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You still can't do it. "Toxic 18 year old women are bad" Why would anyone take you seriously if you can't make the easiest concession?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:50 PM
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Let's try an exercise. First, you say "toxic 18 year old women are bad" Then you say, "toxic 30 year old men are bad" They're not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:39 PM
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What good has social media created?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:37 PM
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If a guy is getting positive attention from women, he's not going to knock it off. I've seen dudes get beaten bloody then go right back to the same behaviors. Both sexes need to do a better job of regulating Fatherless/Motherless behavior. And that will involve shaming immature people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:36 PM
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I don't think this topic is appropriate for "it is what it is" mentality. This is a small part of a much larger issue. Tech companies having unsupervised relationships with teenagers using engagement maximizing formula isn't going to age well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:33 PM
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You shifted the goalposts from "teenagers should take the risk and join in party culture" to talking about harm reduction. What a coward lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:59 PM
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Notice you have no response beyond sneering at principled morality. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:40 PM
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Yeah, that's the difference between us. Other people's views don't influence what I view as right and wrong. The actual impacts that actions have dictates that. And I particularly don't care what someone like you thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:40 PM
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Just say that it's important that you have access to boundaryless hedonism. It's not like I can stop you, but be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:44 PM
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You're just pro-party culture because of retro-active FOMO. Whenever people decide that X harmful behavior is fun, this is how they act. Stoners coming up with benefits of marijuana, and alcoholics pointing out problems brought on by prohibition. Plenty of people learn to socialize extremely well without setting foot in party culture. They learn to socialize without enabling the petty, gross, and predatory behaviors that party culture covers for. If you want to socialize and have fun, wait till …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:45 PM
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Do you think his problems were defined by his backstory and trauma, or by his being a tech guy? Or in other words, why is it so important to you to project your negative experiences with this one individual on a bunch of people you don't know anything about? Would you like it if someone used their past relationship with someone who is in your career field as a reason to attack you, even though you don't know them? Women. Need. Unconscious. Bias. Training.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:34 AM
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If you dress and behave with less flamboyance you will receive less attention. This is what models say about their experiences in public. Not "hot girls" who are again, just average and attention seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:15 PM
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All women who put themselves in a position to receive romantic advances from men. Models even report being approached less because they're intimidating. So maybe you're just average and approachable, and that's why it happens so much!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:48 PM
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Unwanted attention is a lot like getting shit on. It's your own fault, don't blame the existence of birds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:46 PM
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there's no hostility if you're reading it you must be projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:35 PM
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Don't dress vulgar because it contributes to a shitty society. You are not allowed to dress that way at work for a reason. Grow up, stop acting like a sorority girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:31 PM
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If you sit under a bird all day and get pooped on, I will also accuse you of wanting to be pooped on by a bird. If you are constantly getting unwanted attention, it has something to do with YOUR behaviors. Stop blaming everything around you. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:30 PM
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No one cares, blue pillers who lack critical thinking screech about individual freedoms being the most important thing, so 18 year olds can pollute society however they want. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:27 PM
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Man who is afraid of other men detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:23 PM
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Why are you so hostile. Women need unconscious bias training, grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:22 PM
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If I properly qualify it with cultural narcissism will you chill? I'm so sick of weirdos like you running defense for obviously shitty cultural elements, go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:23 PM
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Excessive vanity and ego indulgent behaviors. People's decisions and behaviors reflect things about themselves and their priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:45 PM
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Basically everything they listed is indicative of grandiosity and attention seeking, which are narcissistic tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:22 PM
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The characteristics that make for a good long term partner for both sexes align with what pop culture considers to be boring. That's the criticism. That's why people mock immature men and women for wanting Disney romances. Putting your emotions above reason has always been seen as immature. People get into relationships that last once they become willing to do the hard work of managing the negative side of their """""feelings"""""
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:30 PM
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"Male narcissists are bad" Applause. "Female narcissists are bad" Well actually narcissism is a trait that affects men and women equally and- Its not unique to gender, this type of shilling is always frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:29 PM
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Shitting on narcissists and discouraging that behavior pattern is something that good people are morally obligated to do by every major religion but sure I guess everyone born before epic smartphone was a stupid savage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:09 PM
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Holy cow. Was saying "women with addictions have a bad character trait" too hard for you? Liberal women don't deserve liberal men. It's so easy for a man to call out a bum, but women just won't hold each other accountable under any circumstances. It's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:08 PM
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obligatory comment claiming I'm super happy etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:27 AM
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I'd need to be drunk at a party to have a shot at tolerating you, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:15 AM
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What an absurdly simplistic viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:23 PM
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No, I'm pointing out your obvious bias and inability to engage critically with these issues. The entire communication style is unintelligent. Calling true statements insults doesn't make them less true. But then again since you spend most of your time arguing in a subreddit where most users hate you. But youre probably used to the martyr dynamic. (:
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:10 PM
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The criticism is pretty straight forward. Research in-group cognitive bias. I see no reason to believe that ultra one-sided takes are made in good faith. Reminds me of smooth brain takes laying all the blame on one side in the Israel-Palestine conflict. Intersectionality is more complicated than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:56 PM
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this reads like siding with your gender in-group in a red pill-esque manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:51 PM
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There is a 100% chance that your partner puts up with a ton of neurotic character traits that you yourself would not tolerate. Unfortunately it will make you a horrible parent and community member regardless of finding a passive man to bunker down with, so I pray we never meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:53 PM
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You just have a traumatized backstory and need to be quiet. I assume lots and lots of people would rather be alone than deal with this type of rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:24 PM
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You start at a weird place of assuming that women shouldn't want to be with men. I understand it's frustrating to have a negative past because of your poor character traits, but you should seek therapy. Spare the rest of us your obvious trauma projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:23 PM
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You can't necessarily make people care about you by changing things about yourself. The criticism of people in their 20s is that they live insular lives that are constructed around avoiding a healthy relationship. Telling someone to improve their resume is a good thing, sure, but if there's no jobs on the market and tons of people are trying, it's usually a sign that systemic intervention is necessary. No one is saying that we need people to come and rescue the poor lonely men. Just that progres…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:22 PM
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If you can't understand why secular people are more poorly equipped to stand against capitalism, not much to say I guess. You'll get burned by it all eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:16 PM
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No, your argument is based on outdated perspectives. Multinational corporations are focused on pandering to secular / left of center people because they make better consumers. If you've spent time working in the tech or financial sectors, you'll know the attitudes I'm referring to. The next people to inherit institutional power will have less moral considerations, and more optical considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:36 PM
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It would be one thing if secularism was an intellectual movement, but it's a cultural movement which is extremely friendly to capitalist consumerism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:07 PM
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Secular people are consistently shown to be less satisfied with life and take more antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:00 PM
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No, people who don't want to navigate a pointlessly complicated dating culture. There are times when people need to put their relationship over themselves for future happiness. If someone is not willing to do that, I just hope they never become parents I guess. Also I am insane!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:38 AM
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people are specifically being told to wait to date to complete themselves as individuals, women especially. because the rise in toxic individualism is a problem that was artificially manufactured by a portion of media and political forces. Any amount of describing people's new behavior as coping mechanisms serves to enable those bad actors and their agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:33 AM
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Secular people are the problem, true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:24 AM
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no man wants to date girl gamers
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:23 AM
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No, no, no, no. Saying that people should be narcissistic in relationships because working class women had it hard is not it. The. sins. of. your. father. do. not. entitle. you. to. consequence. free. narcissism. Get a god damn therapist if your parents / grandparents relationship bother you so much, and quit poisoning the well for normal people. You need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:22 AM
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Ah, so radical individualism is making people wait to date ("focusing on themselves") which makes it seem harder. It's impossible for me to view this attitude as anything other than shilling on behalf of the people who profit from toxic individualism. Just.... go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:13 AM
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What's the point of this comment? In what way does it meaningfully detract from the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:39 AM
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The only viable explanation is that they have experiences that make them emotionally reluctant to date. Men like this will often make excuses and blame other people, even though their behaviors never line up w / someone who really wants a GF
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:48 PM
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Money helps you with anything you want to do. But if you don't really want to date because of your past, money won't make a big difference. Believe it or not, people have different backgrounds and priorities than you 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:46 PM
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because many people have past experiences that make it difficult to trust and develop new intimate relationships, and making more money does not directly solve this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:43 PM
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Being a centrist doesn't mean taking a middle on every topic. It's recognizing that context matters, multiple things can be true at once, and different situations require different solutions. There's a reason that you can find common platitudes that contradict each other on many life topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:49 AM
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Relying on momentary attraction is for teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:46 AM
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No, if the only thing you find attractive is physical stuff, you're going to make for a bad partner. I take great care of my appearance, and if someone is exclusively interested in my cuz muscles, I'm good. And it'll be very obvious. Plenty of men and women are willing to prioritize emotional attraction over physical attraction, and they live happier lives for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:58 PM
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It's not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:54 PM
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Nah, youre just choosing to reward people who love conditionally with your time. There are other sorts of relationships and people, even if you don't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:28 PM
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No, I'm pointing out that many men in the Red Pill attempted to earn love through being a provider, but were left whenever their usefulness is reduced for some reason. Men should expect to be loved for fulfilling their role in the relationship, and that includes being appreciated for both of these aspects. If someone wants to reduce love down to all feelings and no practicality, that is silly. The opposite is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:12 PM
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This only applies to men who hate women, and women who hate men. The rest of us can appreciate romantic interests without getting something out of it, good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:55 PM
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Red Pill men have complained about women who view men this way taking their money and children during divorce and not caring, because they don't see their ex-husbands as humans. Any guy who moves through life like that is a poor excuse of a man, husband, father, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:53 PM
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The criticism that single people make when exiting the dating market is typically the intensity of expectations early on in the relationship. It is absolutely reason to criticize the dating scene when superficial signifiers become seen as more important than predictors of success in long term partnerships. Why do you think this is so difficult for you? Do you experience satisfaction when you see others exhibit self destructive behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:49 PM
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Yes it can. -People go to therapy to work on unhealthy attractions. -People change their mind about who and what they find attractive over time. -Having a different perspective pointed out can change someone's attractiveness. -A person arguing about how attractive they should be may damage their attraction from others. Enough is enough with the behavioral relativism. If you are completely unable to control what you find attractive, you probably have issues and need to go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:35 PM
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I don't know why people are so reluctant to spread centrist messages. There's nothing wrong with taking a visible stand for common sense, fuck off with the apathy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:30 PM
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yeah you just came across this as arrogant. pointing out your lack of self-awareness ain't gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:31 PM
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In which case the way you answered must have been more arrogant than you think. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:12 PM
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Yeah if someone got offended because you answered their question they seem like a very rude person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:07 PM
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If people reacted that way, what makes you think it was the appropriate social context? It sounds like those people perceived you as making some sort of power move. What makes you so confident in labelling that social feedback as incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:20 PM
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XD fedora tip /s that's a yikes my fellow decent human beings, we stan a left wing king
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:48 PM
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I'm sorry that I didn't use /s for you, redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:45 PM
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Excuse me ma'am, you typed that men and women are not the same just a few minutes ago? That's not a statement about experience, you indicated that your original post is objectively true when I originally challenged your subjective view. I'm aware that you think of yourself (and other women) as inferior, and corrected your statement because it incorrectly posited that all women need special treatment from men. And I'm sure you do have lots of experiences! But again, they seem to have created a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:35 PM
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If reading negative comments affirms your ego, then my suggestion for therapy is now unironic. I hope life treats you better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:11 PM
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No, this is a you thing. Women and other women are also not the same, and many recognize that what you're describing is a toxic and narcissistic perspective. I hope life gives you experiences that help you see that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:54 PM
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And those are the only two options? Either they cope with their bad day how YOU would cope with yours, or else you have to manage their entire lives for them? Maybe you're just neurotic and require people to baby you in order to feel like you have a mutual relationship, and the subtle insecurity is what drives wacko, patronizing posts like this. Check in w your therapist, I think you need a little more ✨ self care ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:45 PM
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You do not hold yourself and other women to the same stringent expectations that you're holding men to. If you have this type of ego, you're not trying to get rid of patriarchy, you're trying to replace it with a version that benefits you. Nasty, icky, gross, types of influence to put into society. No thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:43 PM
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The problem with patriarchy is intertwined with egotism. If you have this type of ego, you're not trying to get rid of patriarchy, you're trying to replace it with a version that benefits you. Nasty, icky, gross, types of influence to put into society. No thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:42 PM
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super cool rationalization keep looking down on people you seem cool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:52 PM
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No, I'm actually referring to the flagrant disregard and dehumanization of young men in discourse. Look at how you've consistently straw manned the least charitable interpretations of what I'm saying. That's the type of unconscious bias from progressives that is being criticized. This is so remiscient of the conversations I'd have with religious reactionaries 10 years ago about misogyny and patriarchy. I hope you gain perspective and ditch the progressive reactionary brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:47 PM
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Do you really have that hard of a time believing that a certain percent of people with narcissistic traits falsely adopt movements that benefit their identity group? You see it in religion and political spaces a lot, where many ideologues adopt a "rules for me, not for thee" attitude. I agree that individual men who constantly end up attracted to women who fall into this category of person, as having issues. Still valid to criticize both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:10 PM
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I don't remember anyone saying that women are all dating trad con men, but if they did I disagree with them. Still, it is perfectly valid to criticize individuals and groups for a separation between their actions and what they preach. Why is that problematic Young people have a hard time living up to decent standards because of immaturity and naivety. There's really nothing wrong with pointing out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:02 PM
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It's fair to question and criticize people who consistently reward bad behavior over good behavior. If you claim to value xyz, but reward people who do abc with your limited resources, it is reasonable to be criticized for that behavior. It is not isolated to this topic. That said, OP should learn to identify the types of people who behave like this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:53 PM
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I'm pointing out that you're blatantly uneducated and your own reading materials support none of these horrible, shaming, and bullying conclusions. Silly, try going to college
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:32 PM
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It's not my job to educate you sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:12 PM
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I have news about your sexuality 😭😂😭😂😭😂😭
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:23 PM
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Thank God we have so many therapists available for men who have the misfortune of interacting with such bizarrely dehumanizing perspectives. Proper gender studies and education doesn't result in, whatever this is. You're so far off the mark from anything resembling decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:22 PM
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So women will fall behind men if we don't give them special privileges to make life a bit easier, basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:16 PM
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Viewing dating as Us vs Them is psychotic and I wish people like you were banned from social media lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:48 PM
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Most men want relationships, not meaningless sex. If you choose to listen to internet dwellers about what real men want, that's on you. It's totally reasonable to care about the moral standard you used to attract a partner. "Proud of what he's got, but ashamed of how he got it." I'm not sure what past experience you're trying to make up for by making these posts, but I promise it's not that big of a deal to be sooo ashamed (:
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:29 PM
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Dating is a sales game, which is why people lament how awful it is. Happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:09 AM
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No, it's just a fact that if you're playing a sales game, lying and manipulating allows you to close more deals and get what you want more often. It's not unique to dating. Again, people will correctly criticize unscrupulous politicians and businessmen for sleazy behavior. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:47 AM
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What? Whenever you're playing any sort of sales game, lying and manipulating are viable tactics for short term success. But in the long run they damage the stability of business relations, and hurt the ecosystem for everyone. You can get puss puss from attractive women without being a bad boy alpha male. What are you even on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:39 AM
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Probably for the same reasons that an honest politician might be frustrated with the continued success of corrupt politicians. Pretty obviously understandable. If you'd like to point out that frustration with this is pointless, I mean, that's great sweetie, we already know that setting aside emotions and acting like a sociopath is a good way to "succeed".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:09 AM
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Because a minority of men who "have that dog in them" have zero self control and ruin things for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:28 PM
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Sure, but it seems like you're also guilty of not accepting reality. A generation of people are reporting that they are having a difficult time with dating, and that they have social needs that are unmet. And that's hardly surprising considering the social media revolution + covid. Obviously people should focus on self-improvement, but there's no reason to pretend that it's mutually exclusive with improving society and culture. Disparity makes everyone less happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:52 PM
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Very cool data, I'll come back to this a lot. I stand by criticizing people who promote shamelessness tho hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:58 PM
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You don't understand modern male dating strategies if you think it's any different from the regular market. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:41 PM
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No, the realization that no one is ever going to provide meaningful help to this problem is what drives them there. That's when they take matters into their own hands and learn to manipulate and lovebomb. Again, young people are having an increasingly difficult time establishing themselves in all walks of life. History shows us they turn to extremism when that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:38 PM
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Then enjoy the flood of young men who become chauvinists to cope. Do you want us to have a sexual behavioral economy like India?? What on earth is wrong with left leaning liberals right now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:23 PM
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This dynamic is encouraging the dejected men towards the red pill, Andrew Tate, and probably worse soon. Stop defending it while pretending to be reasonable, it's yucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:22 PM
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I don't have dating problems, but that doesn't prevent me from pointing out how the game is being rigged. Same reasons I object to homelessness and systemic poverty even though I'm not poor. In all walks of life, people are statistically having an increasingly difficult time establishing themselves in career, dating, and housing. Do you think that's by choice? Or is it more likely that we're making excuses for a hypercompetitive culture that celebrates the elite while starving the many? I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:08 PM
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Young people who dislike hookup culture are complaining and exiting dating en masse What’s the point of defending the material conditions that are enabling this? It’s obviously a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:07 PM
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Trump is the quintessential example of patriarchy. Yes, many people celebrate and enable the ways this type of person goes about getting what they want. Feeling shame when you're rejected is a normal reaction. Especially romantically. The big issue I see, is there isn't a prescribable formula for men who want a family and good job without doing the alpha male larp. You're otherwise left hoping that the world just kind of gives you a good life for being decent. I wish you could see how your words…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:15 PM
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Gotta love whenever jealous and possessive traits get celebrated and enabled. I'm sure that will pan out super well in long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:08 PM
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Don't try to patronize me by calling me honey. It's obvious nothing about your views is principled, nor is there any basis in ethics. lmao tf 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:31 AM
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Also, don't reply to my comments that pose a question without answering it. Disregarding you moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:19 AM
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No, you're trying to justify why average men should be transformed into a celibate second glass and it's absolutely abhorrent. You're identical to men who advocate for revoking woman's rights. And you should be equally ashamed of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:18 AM
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Women were treated as property throughout history so who cares about this example. We should absolutely encourage people to have sustainable dating behaviors, versus a hookup culture freeforall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:51 PM
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For every guy that can't get a relationship, the competition becomes more psychotic and unhinged. Question: How is THIS many men having a problem with relationships not a societal red flag? Left leaning people look at material and social circumstances in all other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:14 PM
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I can't find the study so I get my source is trust me. But the percent of men who prefers to be approached exceeds the percent of women who prefer to approach by a huge margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:46 PM
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Hint: It's the belligerent men who prefer to do the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:40 PM
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Nah this is bullshit. Whenever women approach men they want, there is much more ambiguity in the interaction. Any man who both approaches, and is approached by women, will confirm this. Passive aggressive bullying is obnoxious. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:57 PM
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Women refusing to act like grown adults with mouths that form sentences are why belligerent men feel superior on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:51 PM
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Because for a lot of people, love has transformed into a competition with their self worth at stake. Principled people have zero interest in influencing the youth, so it's inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:06 PM
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No, I view any identity based movement that tells its members: "you don't have enough, people are treating you unfairly, and you should be unhappy" as pretty toxic unless it has clear legislative goals. and even then, instructing your own people to feel ashamed is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:37 PM
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Jesus was compassionate towards actual prostitutes, what the heck man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:38 PM
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take your meds sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:40 PM
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What? Where did I say that being emotionally considerate is people pleasing? It seems like you're grandstanding and trying to passive aggressively defend the girlies from having to communicate with their words. Strangely misogynistic attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:37 PM
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What? Where did I say that being emotionally considerate is people pleasing? It seems like you're grandstanding and trying to passive aggressively defend the girlies from having to communicate with their words. Strangely misogynistic attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:37 PM
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The way that boys and girls were socialized and conditioned lends itself to the dynamic. People pleasers and emotionally avoidant adults, truly an iconic duo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:17 PM
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Sure, I agree. One of the difficulties I see with relationships, is that young men and young women typically need to work on opposite things. Yes, many young men need to work on reading people's emotional cues instead of just maxxing out "what can I get away with?" Many young women should also work on more assertive, direct communication styles instead of people pleasing and hinting about what they want. People who can't balance the two behaviors tend to make for emotionally needy partners, rega…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:56 PM
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If the average women that you're interacting with says these things, look elsewhere. They're not all like this, it's a you thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:22 PM
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Reevaluate the type of person you're trying to date, and resist the temptation to be a mind-reader and project the same expectations onto the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:51 PM
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If someone's expectations are centered around treating you poorly, I would ignore that person and their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:44 PM
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You ignored the criticism that people in your life will judge you for your relationship choices, because they reflect what dealing with you will be like. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:14 PM
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Also yes, men get shamed and judged by people in their lives when they get in relationships with destructive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:10 PM
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Nah, you're creepy. This is the type of thing people say to encourage people who are going back to abusers. I dunno who you're running cover for, but you should seek help. You should seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:07 PM
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Yeah, what about them? If you get into a relationship with a detestable person, lots of people are going to think less of you for it. That's life. Trying to erase shame from society because you can't handle judgement from others for sleazy behavior isn't going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:58 PM
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In my life, all the men who try to project a Chad image have more girl problems than normal men. And yes I live in a metropolitan area. Literally the only way you can arrive at your conclusion is if you live and breathe gym/Instagram culture. It seems vapid to most people, but you won't believe them. It feels like trying to convince a teenage girl with an eating disorder, that she doesn't need to derive confidence from being ultra thin. It's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:47 PM
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Sure, but that involves unironically believing in the grift.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:28 PM
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No, they just want women to discourage creepy behavior from socially affluent men. And I'm not saying it's all women, but celebrating women to play into the hands of playboys who want to grab 'em by the p***y or whatever is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:25 PM
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A lot of dudes are frustrated when women just sit on the sidelines and pick whoever wins the social dominance battles. I think there's a general desire for women to help promote general decency among male competition for romantic attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:14 PM
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It's possible to notice negative traits in others without possessing them yourself, good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:04 AM
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Imagine changing yourself this drastically to self admittedly date down. lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:48 PM
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No, letting people treat you like a doormat is inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:03 PM
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A good man does not allow people to take advantage of him. You're setting that person up to be entitled when you play into that behavior. That's the difference between a good man and a nice guy. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:52 PM
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Oh shut up. The meta game of whatever environment you're in affects how people behave. Material circumstances are making dating unapproachable for men who don't want to be manipulative. Arguing against a data trend of men exiting the dating scene, and saying men should just magically get over it, is insanely hypocritical for anyone with a progressive world view, which you likely have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:50 PM
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go your own way my friend, narcissists will infest anything that is accessible by the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:34 PM
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Lol the comments in this thread are so depressing. People with internet connections are actually just animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:31 PM
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Really? Since some people are individuals we can't call out inappropriate sexual preferences that encourage people towards abusive behaviors? This type of relativism is so toxic, you remind me of people who defend FGM in tribal communities because all cultures are equally valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:35 PM
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Okay? Agreeing to let someone else use you doesn't change that they used you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 08:21 PM
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Shame the rest of it is horrible advice on how to hedonismmaxxxx
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:16 PM
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I don't think it's normal for men to be frustrated and want more. Men who use women to affirm their masculinity will feel this way, and it's mostly social media that has conditioned us into this behavior to such a strong extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:04 PM
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It's unrealistic for everyone to get laid regularly outside of a steady relationship, in general. People who do get laid a lot have done a good job normalizing their behavior, which is a bummer. Now every single mid-grade college student MUST have a villainous hoe phase to cope with sexual insecurities, and it's boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:55 PM
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Why are you leveraging the existence of gay people like this? It's literally homophobia lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:36 PM
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Why are you leveraging the existence of gay men like this? It's homophobic, and contributes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 12:35 PM
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No, a lot of people care about men not approaching. It is talked about in this subreddit daily, for example. Many women complain about a lack of traditional masculinity in their romantic partners outside of Pill spaces, as well. You probably just have a bias against individual men you perceive as whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:26 PM
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I assume that you're also pro-amphetamine addiction for people who feel it's the best shot at happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:46 PM
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You clearly just have an ego that is validated by social games, all of your posts are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:14 PM
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You're whining right now, so how are you different lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:01 PM
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Telling someone what they want to hear usually helps get what you want, yeah. Lots of people would prefer an entertaining and easy partner who doesn't require or ask much of them. But do you want to be with a person who thinks like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:36 AM
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We agree. I don't blame women though, it's hard to see past flatterer's bullshit at first. My least favorite is "gentlemanly" types who insist on extending weird signs of favor to women specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:53 PM
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What? I'm saying the opposite. If you give extra special attention to every single mechanic you meet because you want to make sure you're afforded the highest chance at having an intimate relationship with mechanics, then yes that would be weird and objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:32 PM
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Do you unironically think OP is trying to say that you should treat your partner the same as your friends? Literally it's a post stating that 1) when men don't respect women as having agency, they have better game. 2) on average, women prefer men who think like this, because its easier to be romantic with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:04 PM
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No, it encourages young men to think of women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:59 PM
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Straw manning tends to be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:58 PM
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No, it's okay to be annoyed at individual people who shamelessly surrender to their worst impulses. I also dislike men who claim that their pushy behavior towards women is because of their biology. If you only want to date people who are universally attractive, it seems like a red flag as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:50 PM
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lol if the way you like to meet people is partying, and you're still single by thirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:55 PM
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Current dating culture feels unnatural and unreasonable. It seems like social media companies (including dating apps) have come to make dating much more stressful and difficult for single people. The injustice is that, because legitimate business institutions are invested, mainstream culture will not recognize the harm thats being done. Tech companies made it way too easy for people to act on their worse impulses and FEEL like there's no consequences. People need to recognize that societal probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:23 PM
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Frat bros are so slimy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:12 PM
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Fun and codependent relationships tend to start with a spark of sexual tension and excitement. Mature and meaningful relationships tend to start with a mutual, curious exploration of each other as human beings and partners. I do wish young people had an easier time recognizing which is which.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:10 PM
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Great news, no laws have been passed that stop women from socializing freely. Certain women complain because their man doesn't respect their autonomy, but don't realize they CHOOSE to be with me who only want to initiate. Similarly men who always initiate will inevitably complain about their wife not valuing them much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:07 PM
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Some women initiate because women are adults with agency. Maybe something about you scares away that type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:03 PM
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People pleasing and expecting nothing in return is codependent, weird behavior. I do not want people to hang around me just doing nice things for the hell of it. Have self respect, and don't give yourself to people who don't respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:19 PM
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I'm not super worried about my own outcomes, I'm doing okay. It's similar to climate change - caring about the issue doesn't hinge on whether or not I think climate change will ruin the planet before I die. It's okay to discuss problems without immediate solutions on standby. On the gender topic, people use the existence of incels to deflect all criticisms and analysis of modern dating norms waaaaaay too much. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:50 PM
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You can complain and criticize other people when you don't get the outcomes you desire. You can also complain and criticize other people when you do get the outcome you desire. Whether you're thriving or not is irrelevant to criticisms of the situations and people in them. If the ONLY thing you care about is getting what you want, or feeling at peace with what you have, it's just self centered perspectives. People can and should take an interest in society beyond what's good for them, like fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:22 PM
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Women waking up has made it more difficult for men to achieve success with patriarchal behaviors. The problem is, the men who are successful are still primarily using patriarchal behaviors to do so. The bar has just been raised. The men who are successful, who have the means and power to extend a helping hand to their lonely brethren, won't help. Because successful patriarchs don't care to assist wouldbe patriarchs, generally speaking. Individual men just need to be more okay with extended perio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:27 PM
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Nah, rapey frat bros and the women who enable them deserve to have their hands broken, not held. Again, the Brock Turner apologetics energy is strong. Creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:10 PM
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I don't see the point in framing conservatism as the enemy, honestly. An overwhelming amount of conservatives and liberals want to protect young women (and men) from being exploited. Sex and relationship education needs to be taught to teenagers, and it's weird that conservatives refuse to engage with that. But also, abusive dynamics should not be glorified and made easily accessible in movies, TV, music, and porn. It's weird that liberals won't engage with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:33 AM
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Low expectations for young people are part of the problem. Not sure why everyone is dead set on enabling frat culture and the obvious damages it causes in so many people's lives. The degree of entitlement that certain young men are allowed to act with is disgusting. Encouraging young people to "figure things out" this way is just Brock Turner apologetics, fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:30 PM
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