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Talks about how Gen Z men are awful, voted Republican and are "influenced" by Andrew Tate. Poor women who thought men would get better with each generation are disappointed. By better, they mean better slaves. They always want men to go: “we are sorry we are human, we will only live to serve you from now on.” Men’s response to hate, being held accountable for women’s actions and slavery would be to stand against it. Most men they say are “influenced” by Andrew Tate do not even know who he is. Wo…
/r/EverydayMisandry27/04/25 02:43 PM
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Fair enough. It coming secondary is a better way to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:13 PM
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What? Marital satisfaction is reported to be as low as 13%, divorce is sky high, 80% of men who use onlyfans are married, older married men bitch how they are just atms all the time, etc. Are some men happy beta buxing? Probably. But many men only beta bux because they have no choice. They often end up in miserable relationships or just do not think they are a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:05 PM
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Women do not care about orgasms as much as some women argue. They often use it to just hate men. They have repeated causal sex with hot dudes who are bad at sex all the time. He is always the biggest they had, her first time doing x, faking she is orgasming like crazy, etc. If women really cared about orgasms, they would have no interest in casual sex and get with a less attractive dude who was willing to do what it takes to make her orgasm. But even when they do that, they give way more and bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:01 PM
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It is literally the opposite. TRP and PUA game is literally about being the “asshole.” Treat her like dirt and she will see you as a prize. Which includes seeing her as a prize. A man being kind and respectful is treating you like a human. The idea that men not acting like assholes are somehow fake just shows that you do not see men as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:28 PM
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That is because “forced to penetrate” still does not count as rape. Over 80% of male rape victims are not counted in any data you post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:25 PM
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Bullshit. Men are raped just as much as women are, but we have pretend most of it has not counted for over 60 years. Women rape just as much as men, only just recently have some groups of women been starting to get in trouble for raping children. It is starting to hit the news for we are slowly approaching the point where women raping men is becoming accepted as a real thing. The fact you think it is a “novelty” is exactly why women brag about raping men. They can use it to get fame as there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:24 PM
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Rich men have the same privileges of low value and average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:20 PM
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You do realize they often have the prison sentences reduced to slaps on the wrist after the first sentencing right? First sentence is to look like there is a punishment to the public, the second is what the punishment really is. They are often even back to teaching and raping children. And it only started happening because woman teachers raping and grooming students have been going out of control and it is hard to defend without being a blatant hypocrite. They might be the biggest group of rapis…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 12:19 PM
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Bingo. You will just watch the girl you want to love and marry, love and marry a dude who does objectify her instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:41 AM
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Except men get automatically dismissed and disrespected. We need to fight to prove we are a “winner” anyways. Even when we know what we are talking about, we are ignored unless we get all these status symbols and fame saying we are smart. We are mocked, bullied, isolated, abandoned, etc. One of the big potential reasons men want relationships with women is to have someone that loves them for them. They get tired of fighting stupid ego games.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:38 AM
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Men have to do it for we are still expected to “buy/earn” you. If we do not try to win you like a prize, we are just rejected and forced to watch some other dude take you instead. Men are objectified as tools, it is just accepted as okay. Many women love the privileges this gives them but get tired of the consequences. So treating you like a human would mean just never having any hope of dating or sleeping with you. So why would he talk to you in the first place at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:34 AM
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In entertainment? No. In real life? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:26 AM
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No, that is just ageism. Perhaps even reinforces itself as framing age gap relationships as abusive will push good older men away from trying it to protect his image. While manipulative men would not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:25 AM
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“Legal or not?” The hell. I think it’s gross to be that obsessive over what other people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:56 PM
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Same reason people in horror movies are all dumb. Because it is entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:00 PM
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The girl in the trope is portrayed as just as hot as Stacy, he is just blind to her because of his crush on Stacey.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:42 PM
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Half true. “Gambling bum exploits vulnerable women thinking of killing herself for sex via simping and then dies saving her life. Old version of the woman fantasizes of how hot male disposability is. Dreams of him over her husband and children when she dies.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:40 PM
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Nah, the lesson is to settle for the girl who likes you over the girl you like for women’s benefit. In real life, that girl is several points less attractive than you and your crush is often on your level look wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:36 PM
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In reality his crush is frequently on his level and the one that crushes on him is several points lower value (otherwise he would be crushing on her instead).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:33 PM
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The men who do not care about making women orgasm are never going to care. Women will just keep picking them because they are hot. Like, will a woman ever sleep with me because I brag about how I can make a woman cum? No. It might even be seen as creepy. They will fuck me if they find me hot though. So what do you expect men to do? Should we force you to sleep with men who will care about you and your pleasure instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:21 PM
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If women have higher quality sex than men, then why do women orgasm significantly less than men? Did you not read what I just said? You basically have to try to make a man not cum during sex. It is so hard that men work hard trying to learn to make it HARDER to cum to last longer. Women will NEVER orgasm as much as men become of Biology. That is just a fact. > Yes, women have a harder time cumming than men, but it’s interesting how lesbians report more orgasms than straight women, so maybe men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:56 PM
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A consensual age gap relationship is equivalent to a cult now? Your ageism is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:34 PM
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They have higher quality sex than men do really. Women are also really bad at sex. Most women suck ass at blow jobs and rely on the fact men are desperate for them to carry them. Like god, I went to a fucking orgy and all the girls sucked at blowjobs. All used there teeth and it hurt. But men just kept quiet about it because they got a blowjob at all. Many would get tired after a few minutes and shit. (But demand men go 30+ minutes, long after there neck and tongue start hurting or going numb). …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:30 PM
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“Incel vibes” is not a thing and you will never prove anyone wrong with empty insults. And you clearly have a strong stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:21 PM
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I like to always ask myself the question, “Assuming they are right for the sake of the argument, does that make me wrong?” If the answer is no, they are just talking shit and it is doubtful the insult or shame attack has any merit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:05 PM
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That is the same for any insult or attempt to shame you honestly. If someone is getting personal, it usually means they just want you to shut up and do what they want. Often it means you are 100% on the money and they want to rip your tongue out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:53 PM
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10/10 made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:52 PM
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That is probably the most arrogant, condescending and combative response I have ever seen here. Funny how you perfectly imitate the traits that you argue make a man sexless. I am also married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:21 PM
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TBH the bluepillers kind of allude to to it sometimes too. It’s essentially the "nice guy" phenomenon. A lot of dudes I meet in the IT field can be insanely arrogant, combative and condescending but its masked in this sheen of "niceness" and/or non confrontation Duh. They are smarter and above many go be able to get those high status jobs. They are not arrogant, they just are better and know it. Just because other people do not respect their status and value (so they think they are on there leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:43 PM
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Women are not dumb or innocent, they know what they are doing. They do gaslight men all the time and are more aware than they let on. You can best see this when a woman gets caught with her pants down, they still try to play ignorant and fool you. Aka they dishonestly negotiate for what they want for giving as little as possible for they are selfish animals like everyone else. They will always try to frame what they want as morally good and having to give more then the bare minimum they can barg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:25 PM
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Nah, women gaslight all the time. Part of the red pill rage is men figuring out they have been gaslit and lied to purposefully. But you do have a point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:41 AM
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Yeah, sounds like you are a control freak. Spoiler: if she wants to date a much older man, you are just going to have to accept it like an adult or she will just abandon you. If you try to do anything, she will just cut contact with you until you respect her wishes. She is not some precious object, fathers have to deal with this reality all the time. The best you can do is disown, then she will soon realize that she is better off without you anyways. Children are not heirs, they are people. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:39 AM
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They find younger women attractive, you will just have to deal with it. You are never going to be able to force them to want older women they find less attractive. Trying to dishonestly frame why they are attracted to younger women will do nothing. If you want to continue to lie that it is about experience and not attraction, I will just have to end the debate here. Sorry, but you will never force these men to accept dating women they do not find attractive. Especially since older men are more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:32 AM
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Sorry, but you are clearly wrong here. You do not decide why others want x, they do. And they certainly are not “newb pwning” like some game of Call of Duty or LOL. You already admitted to feeling intimidated by older men, so it is pretty clear you are not interested in the truth. You just want to frame age gap relationships as evil to get rid of the threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:26 AM
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True, but if we gender bent this, you would go “you cannot negotiate attraction” and shit. Most people can get someone they do not want. Like no shit. Just like we all could get a shitty job at McDonalds instead of the job we actually want. But if someone complains that they cannot get a job, do you go “You can get a job, just not one you want you crybaby?” No, that would be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:57 PM
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Even with the experience they would, they would not be able to stand young men at all. It is not old men’s fault that they decided to date a shitty man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:46 PM
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Because they find younger women attractive. Should you be forced to date someone you do not find attractive just because they think what you find attractive is gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:25 PM
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Because it is the same exact thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:16 PM
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Yeah, it has nothing to do with her being a “newb.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:15 PM
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Yet if they were to go back in time, older women would suddenly be okay dating older men again lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:00 PM
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You have no idea dude. When you get older, you will still find the same women sexually attractive as you do now. You will dream of 22 year olds still. Younger guys and older women hate it because they hate the competition. You cannot compete with a older man's money, confidence, experience and resources. But older men are a lot less attractive and many women are not interested in them, so it really is not that much of a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:59 PM
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That is stupid. If I dated a Indian girl who abused me, does that mean everyone needs to be protected from dating Indian girls because they are all abusive? No, that is irrational. The person I dated was abusive, her age, race, nationality, etc do not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:55 PM
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I find lots of preferences, kinks and fetishes are disgusting to me and I would not like to know if my daughter is into them or not. Does not make anything wrong with it really. It is her life to do as she sees fit and she will just cut you out if you do not accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:52 PM
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They are trying to shame him to date women he is not attracted to or kink hating. You cannot really ever take "creep" or any other insult seriously really. They are hollow and do not mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:48 PM
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If you found a man attractive and they found you disgusting, does that mean there is something wrong with you and he should be considered for other men because of how disgusting he thinks you are and the possibility you find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:45 PM
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And it is better to not be with someone who makes you mad at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:07 PM
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Looks does not smooth the emotional bumps or keep a girl loyal. The only thing that does that is her perceived dependency on you and if she feels the good feelings will come back. Looks help you get a girl to mate with you because you have “good” genetics. After she mates with you, it matters less and less as she already got your seed. Eventually, you will have to give other shit or you will become her abusive ex. Without good looks, she just expects you to give more to “compensate” for your inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:41 PM
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It is not irrational, women just cannot stop cheating or treating men like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:29 PM
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Women want men to buy/barter for them as if they are an object to but, but they do not want men to actually own them after they buy them. If you want to make it so men do not have to buy/barrier for sex and women, you are entitled to sex/women. If you want to make it so men actually get what they paid for, you are entitled to sex/women. If you accept this shit and buy/barter for women as they request, you are entitled to sex/women because you have to yet to give everything they want for free. Of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:09 PM
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No, It was a study OKcupid did where they found women found 80% of men “below average,” the remaining men were seen as average of above. While men found about 50% of women average or below. It has nothing to do with 80% of men being unattractive, it could mean 95+% of men are unattractive even.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:51 PM
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Then you just do not leave when given a chance. Proof him wrong. Ofc he is going to think you will leave, it is what his life has been. He assumes his relationship is shit for he has yet to have a relationship that was not shit yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:45 PM
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That is because she is not a man, so she is not an object like a man is. You see, we men are not human. We are just tools that are supposed to serve women’s needs and wants. If we do not provide it, there is something wrong with us. We need to buy, barter for a relationship with you. But we never actually get you. Women go to the shelf and pick the best man they can get, if he does not work well enough or escapes, she comes back to pick another man. We see it all over and over again. We all sit …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:29 AM
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And do we call women who do not want there man to cheat and take proper precautions insecure like we are doing with men here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:16 AM
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This is not about the truth. This is about an attempted circle jerk to hate men for wishing that they could get a girl that sees him as his first choice. We men exist to serve women’s demands, so wanting to be loved as a human being instead of being picked as the best tool she could barter for is “insecure.” Ya got to put your misogyny away and beg women for pussy instead of respecting yourself man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:15 AM
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Because we live in a world where women are entitled to the sex and love they want. When I mentioned that I settled for the girl I married, I received literal death threats and people here told me that I am a piece of trash. Basically, women think men doing what they do and women accepting what men are forced to accept is evil or abusive lol. We live in a world where women are literally raping as much as men, but we pretend only men rape for crying out loud. And where it is kay to mutilate men’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:11 AM
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Yeah, perhaps it is a “insecurity.” But it could also be very well true lol. People always try to pretend love is this super complex and spiritual thing, but in most cases it is incredibly shallow and they only pick you because you are the best they could get. She may be committed now, but that does not change that fact. If Leo decided to chase and try to marry the girl you married or are dating before you even met her, chances are she would never even give you a chance. She would probably even …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:58 AM
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Right, I doubt even 10% of divorces are “green card divorces.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:09 PM
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That would be dishonest to argue. There are way more divorces than there are international marriages. It is literally statistically impossible for half of all divorce cases to be green card divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:08 PM
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Despite what the current cultural narrative suggests, men are currently the sexually oppressed gender. Women are entitled to what they want from us for their own personal pleasure. So what men want is bad unless it is for women’s pleasure exclusively. And if women are not getting everything that they want, it is a problem and she is a victim. We are the ones held to unrealistic standards. We are the ones who have our genitalia mutilated to prevent us from masturbating and make our bodies more ae…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:04 PM
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How intellectually dishonest. You are twisting my argument and words to the point I do not even know what you are talking about. Who are you arguing with? What did they say? And why do you expect anyone to engage you earnestly like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:12 PM
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If my wife found me unattractive, yes my wife would never have even dated me. Would you date and marry someone you think is unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:48 PM
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I am married dude. But let’s suppose you are right for the sake of the argument, how does that make me wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:11 PM
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Because society literally does not work if men figure out it is all about appearances. Atleast 50% of men will have zero incentive to date or work for much at all as they will realize they have no hope of getting love and good sex at all. And those that are attractive realizing they do not have to do any work at all. The economy would tank. Human civilization has spent thousands of years trying to convince “good” men that women do not care about looks but instead good men for a reason. They hunt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:51 AM
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these men tend to have swag and unbreakable confidence That is because they get tons of success. Confidence is really just a sign of preselection. Swag is about signaling that he has status/clout/fame/money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:37 AM
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Yah, he clearly does not have autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:33 PM
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The same reason women make men they commit to wait and buy it while they give hit sex for free to other men. Many people are selfish, they want x and that is all they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:33 PM
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That makes zero sense as the red pill is partially about learning social skills to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:07 PM
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That is ablest as fuck. First of all, most red pillers, tradcucks, black pillers, etc are not autistic. Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, etc are obviously not autistic at all. Secondly, using autistic in a similar vein as "gay," "retarded," etc will just mean nobody is going to care about your opinion. Especially since many autistic people would never use things you dub "autistic terms" or even be red pilled at all. Thirdly, it is not bullshit. It does not matter what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:12 PM
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This. We love the results of people doing the “right” thing, but we do not respect them or reward them for it. Way best, we go “woohoo, here is a shitty pizza party, now back to work loser.” Like “essential workers” during covid, good men who make good fathers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:19 AM
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No, it means nobody takes the time to learn what the red pill is. They instead look to trash talk it. Many even pretend the black pill is the red pill. They think different men are different means men are hypocrites. Tradcucks are not red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:15 AM
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Because male sexuality has always been deemed evil. It is why raping men is okay, women are entitled to sex and relationships with the men they want, men are blamed for thinking with there dick but women are not for thinking with there pussy (frame it as feelings to make it sound better even), women are praised for the nastiest of shit but men are to be ashamed of any sexual enjoyment unless it is about pleasing a woman, etc. Also why we are prudish and hypersexual at the same time. When it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:43 PM
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You mean mutilating a baby can cause life long trauma that can negatively impact his mental health for the rest of his life without him even knowing it? I would say “no shit,” but people love mutilating, raping and doing whatever they want with men’s bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:38 PM
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Men’s sexuality was always seen as evil too. But because people are hypocrites, they hate on male sexuality and try to rationalize it as okay. The original reason Male genitalia mutilation is done to try to prevent masturbate and make it look better for women. The foreskin protects the penis and allows you to masturbate without needing lube. The very same reason female genitalia mutilation was done. To prevent women from masturbating and make it look better for men. Which is sick. The health ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:36 PM
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Facts. The truth is people will only adore you if they think you are above them. Otherwise you need to adore them. So if someone is equal or below you, but spoiled with options they previously had or were higher value in the past, they will need you to adore them. Someone who is better then you will only adore you if they think you are higher value than them. Which is what most people selfishly want (someone they adore who adores them), but can only work if they always think you are superior…whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:32 PM
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I am confused, did you reply to the wrong person. I never even implied men did not care about money, women did not care about looks or anything else of the sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:44 PM
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The fact that they are digging for less does not mean they are not also gold diggers. Caring about his status or income AT ALL makes you a gold digger. It becomes a matter of how big of a gold digger you are at that point. Just like a dude who cares about your looks obviously wants to lust for you. Just because he is willing to accept a less attractive woman because she is nicer, easier, a virgin, has similar interests or whatever does not mean he does not god damn lust for you. And ultimately, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:51 PM
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“The market sets the price” is just dishonest bullshit lol. Like what even is the market? Oh right, artificial systems that force the price to be x.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:37 PM
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That would only be true if we lived in a patriarchy. Where you bartered (paid) for access to her fertility in a free market. Now you still need to barter, but you are not entitled to what you bartered for. She can even retroactively take back consent and accuse you of rape. She can also take sex from you whenever she wants. Women are even pretty vocal they are okay with raping men. Like here: https://youtu.be/MSEqchtpTIk?si=q3Qe5t6NSdNvyvUc So how in the world is that a market? She can rape you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:35 PM
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Nobody is trying to steal your rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:47 PM
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Crying about how they refuse to settle for a man equal to them is not the same as declaring they wish to be single. It is them feeling entitled to a man that they want and deeming men they can get not good enough as a result. The difference between an incel crying “no hymn, no diamond” vs a dude just picking go stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:44 PM
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It is much more risky, they even have created a term for it because of how much higher risk it is: “Geriatric Pregnancy” Increased risks of everything (including miscarriages, stillbirth, Gestational diabetes, high blood pressure, the baby being born with issues, etc). And your link notes that this is because women are more educated, not because children born after 35 have better genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:39 PM
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No, it has been illegal for men and women to be paid differently because of gender for a long time now. The “wage gap” does not take into account differences in hours worked and differences in career choices. If a woman chooses to work a lower paying career, that is not a wage gap. That is her picking a lower paying career. And if a man is willing to work more hours, then he should get more overall. Otherwise that is sexism as women would be paid more for working less hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:37 PM
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You do not really have to look that deeply into it as it is pretty obvious. Most people just accept it and so they have no reason for a conspiracy. People are pretty honest when they think they can get away it. Ex: https://youtu.be/MSEqchtpTIk?si=3rd7qpm7Jz-AZiQx All you really need to do is look up “forced to penetrate” victims, then quickly realize that there is no rape data that actually shows how many women rape or Like just Google it, do not even have to look for it. Even CDC data is honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:29 PM
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I agree, I think trp is very simpy. They live their life to get sex from hot girls they even admit are not worth that much. Like throw away who they are and spend there life getting it level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:23 PM
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Our society believes women are entitled to sex and relationships with men they want. So her settling or meeting a man’s standards is evil (but he needs to be “realistic,” meet her standards and settle so she can get what she wants ofc) and men calling for equality is misogyny. Even a man rejecting a woman gives the woman permission to rape if she needs sex with him enough. And women are pretty vocal about it. Even famous women brag about raping men because they needed sex. Women can even bear th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:46 PM
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Women always want to be treated like prizes possessions, they just do not want the consequences of it. You still need to “win” and “buy” her like a prize and objectifying her for her pleasure. They love it, they just want Chad to always win (the hottest man over the real winner) and not expect anything from them. Which is why they are always so hypocritical. They want you to never ask them out, accept no means no, respect them, etc…if you are not Chad. If you are Chad, they want you to ask them …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:39 PM
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Women complain about getting what they want, else they would be dating a man who they cannot complain about. It is also why women get mad when you fix the problems she complains about. She wants you to validate her and help her avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:29 PM
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That is because women start to settle in with betas in the mid 20s and 30s. When young they are just partying and fucking like crazy. I highly doubt 30ish percent of young 18-25 year old women are dating 30+ year old men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:26 PM
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I find it funny how this is always so obvious, yet everyone denies it. Dudes born with good looks get a bunch of girls chasing them exclusively. 30% or so get monogamous relationships with the women that cannot get into the obvious soft harems the previous dude had or want a monogamous relationship. The remaining 30% of men are expected to pay for it all and be happy with it. If they are not happy to pay for it or refuse to pay for it, they are terrorists. I am guessing it is because the dudes b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:21 PM
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No, they know. They just have no reason to care about simps because they are not sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:11 PM
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Who cares? Leaders always commit evil like crazy. People only ever think it is a problem after his/her usefulness is up. Humans are not logical, they are a force of nature. Like a bolder rolling down a hill. You can force the boulder out of the way, manipulate the boulder so it rolls where you want it to, move out of the way or complain as the boulder just keeps going down the same path. Sucks, but it is what it is. Idiots and monsters will always rule, because they know how to manipulate humans…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:50 AM
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Hard for food to taste bad to someone who is starving. Or does the food actually taste bad, but the starving person is just willing to accept it and call it the best thing they ever taste it out of desperation for more?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:01 AM
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Strawman and I am not an incel. I am just not going to fall for religious trp nonsense that everyone can be hot, rich, famous, etc via effort. The rest matters, but if you cannot be attractive the rest does not matter. And if you are hot believe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:58 AM
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Dude, I am not even conservative. My point is that both parties are filled with rapists, liars, manipulators, dark triad, etc. Nobody cares or will ever care if Trump, Biden, Bill Clinton, George Bush etc is a criminal for everyone already knows they are all criminals. You only care that Trump is a criminal for you want your own party to win. I highly doubt you cared about all the controversies and criminal activities Biden and his son were involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:54 AM
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And what did Hilary Clinton do to the women who accused Bill Clinton of raping them? They are all rapists, thieves, liars, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:21 AM
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What people mean when they refer to "true" love, is love that comes from a transaction that they deem more wholesome than otherwise. For instance, a person falling in love with another person due to their kindness and tenderness would be deemed a more true love, or, a more wholesome transaction. Sorry, but that is just hamstering. “Loving” someone for their usefulness, reliability, willingness to sacrifice for you, etc is not more wholesome than “loving” someone because they are hot, rich, famou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:29 PM
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It is easy to understand, people just do not like the truth for it ruins the magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:18 PM
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Chad does not receive a different kind of love. Chad is man that is a few points higher value than her. So they just offer more than the woman does, so she sees it as a steal to be with him for she does not deserve him. Still transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:16 PM
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It is always a lose-loss game too. The more men improve, the higher the bar is raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:13 PM
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If we were to assume she already had good genetics to begin. If she does not have good genetics, you would consider her a 1-5 depending on how bad her genetics make her look no matter how fit she is. The face matters a lot, curves matter a lot, how she smells matters a lot, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:04 PM
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You literally are proving me right dude. You have just admitted that you do not have all the genetics needed to have girls throwing themselves at you. Looks is about way more then just being in shape. And they matter a lot, they are really everything. If you are not attractive, nothing else matters. If you are attractive, then everything else starts to matter. You cannot use yourself as an example of looks not mattering by saying “I am fit, but girls do not throw themselves at me” when that just…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:31 PM
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Exactly. Just like women becoming skinny and fit will not make them all into super models. IDK why so many people find it so difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:26 PM
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When did I say working out makes no impact? I clearly noted “ Getting in shape just better shows off the assets you do have.” It does make you more attractive, but if you do not have the genetics it is not going to help. And I went from obese to jacked before. But I am not going to pretend that my 6 foot 4 height and meh face do not impact my looks. And all the hot dudes I know put zero work in and got success. A childhood friend just sits on his ass and gambles all day, he is hot as fuck and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:22 PM
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Conservatives agree with you. They are all for throwing all non-good men in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:30 PM
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Conservatives want women to have children with good fathers and be a carrot on the stick for them to keep them running the rat race. They do not want more school schoolers, criminals, dregs, mental illness, birth defects, etc produced by single mothers. Especially older single mothers, having a child after 35 is horrible for the child. They ideally want all women to remain virgins until men are forced to man up to sleep with you. They do not care about an individuals happiness or rights, you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:33 AM
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Being jacked does not make you attractive. If a girl you found unattractive got in better shape, she will still be unattractive to you. It is not like her face would change, etc. It is genetics. Your height, face, hair, how you smell, etc that makes you hot to her. Getting in shape just better shows off the assets you do have. This is because sex is about making babies. So the only sperm she will ever want is a 10/10 man. While someone who does have it often is not in that good shape at all and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:21 AM
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This. Very few people who are not hot enough to be attractive when young can be attractive when older. The only case is really if someone spent a decade or so being fat, being a shut in and/or taking care of themselves. Aka someone who was always hot but something prevented women from seeing it. Because attraction is about genetics. Self-improvement is about being a better slave. In reality, most non-chads have women go after them when they want a retirement plan or babies. The dude then is so e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:15 AM
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It is worse. Basically, if you do not buy a product from a company, you are considered a problem and laws are made to forcibly try to make you buy that product or make you indirect pay by stealing your money to give to the company. Alternatives? Banned or looked down upon. Refusing to buy the product? Publicly ridiculed, shamed, mocked and then isolated. Etc, etc. Overall, it is really just dumb for men right now. As women being entitled to you buying them makes them not respect what you give or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:44 PM
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There is no point as they do not care about equality. They only care about dishonesty negotiating for what they want. It is to the point that they do not report over 80% of male rape victims and keep ignoring how the wage gap was proven false for over two decades now. Other people here even worded this better than I have honestly. But if you want to, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:47 PM
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No, the patriarchy was capitalism (you paid and did x to buy her). Now it is socialism for women, capitalism for men. Men still need to buy what they want from women as if they are objects, but they are not entitled to what they buy. Women can break there side of the contract at any point and you are the one that pays. While pretending that it is all okay via dishonesty. If you think that is a shitty deal, you are blamed as being “entitled” and “objectifying women” for saying no or trying to neg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:39 PM
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When that is your response, you clearly do not understand. Women hurt us more than any group when it comes to be emotionally open. You all keep saying to “reach out.” But when we do, you just hurt us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:41 PM
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There are solutions, but it would require a level of cultural change that it would never happen anytime soon. Things that would need to be done would be seen as crazy or evil. It would be like being in 1800s and wanting to liberate women. It would be seen as evil by the culture and so alien that you would be labeled insane. So it is not really futile, the reality is a good solution WILL be implemented at some point…but it may even take thousands of years to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:12 PM
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The problem is the system that put them were they are to begin with. If they received tons of attention, hugs, compliments, support from girls all the time when young, they would be mentally healthy to begin with. They would never end up desperate and lonely. They would also not idolize, stalk, etc. But now it will result in them clinging to you out of desperation. They would idolize you, stalk you, etc and want to marry you right away. To them, you would look like an Angel that walked into hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:05 PM
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Boys are loved for there potential. Men are loved for there utility. With women leading the charge. But if you dare to speak the truth at all, you are the evil one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:58 AM
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Eye opening isn’t it? If you look back, you will find many of the “losers” were really just innocent men that have feelings. They get dog piled on, abused, bullied, abandoned, discriminated against, etc. Then we have the audacity to pretend they are the problem when they get upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 AM
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Coworker connections are pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:55 AM
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Men have a lot of internal misandry conditioned into them. So asking how they are doing will not work for they do not want to be a pussy. Especially even shedding a few tears can put you at risk of being domestically abused, bullied, publicly shamed, etc. Even in cases where that will not happen, the conditioning is deeply ingrained. I do not expect you to understand at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:54 AM
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It is more on dating and relationships are setup to begin with. It is a market/game, but relationships are not a prize or game. Shockingly, the hot one, rich one, cool one, charismatic one, etc is often not the best marriage partner. In a few years (when you actually settle in and the marriage truly begins), none of that will matter. But the lack of empathy, maturity, similar interests, etc will matter more and more. And the elderly will frequently tell you this wisdom too. The best marriage par…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:51 AM
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Yeah, women sure do not like there husbands as much as Chad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:44 PM
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Most men do not even want MFF threesomes, they just think they did. It is double the work, you have to please both. And after the ego boost and novelty wears off, many will find it does not add much. You can only fuck one at a time and do not have the views that porn has. Especially since most women are lazy during sex. The best part is the blowjobs, a MFF threesome does add a lot there. You basically need two lesbians that get each other off and want to use your dick to have a good time. Then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:14 PM
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I see, so you think men are one collective person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:08 PM
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Because women love porn sex, just with Chad. The whole "women pretending they hate dirty and nasty sex with betas, but obviously love it with Chad and will show it off with zero shame" will never really end for women do not want to let go of there power. If the truth was out, they would need to actually fuck there husbands to show they care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:19 AM
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Do you think men are collectively one person or that they each individuals with differing desires and personalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:12 AM
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"If guys should not look for women that wear DDD cup, anorexically skinny, a virgin, etc, what should we look for?" IDK, be realistic and see men as a human?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:08 AM
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If anything, this chain shows women want a literal slave (someone who works there ass off to give them the money they want). To argue men only want sex and see you as a slave is really off topic and makes zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:06 AM
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That is manipulative. refusing to date someone with bigger tits is not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:04 AM
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Define poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:02 AM
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Accept they do all the time. It does not take much to raise children, takes a lot to give women and them the top 1% lifestyle though. To be in the top 1% worldwide, you need to make 32,000 USD per year. How come people who make 10,000 or less can raise 10+ kids just fine? But American women need a man to make 100,000 and they can barely raise 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:01 AM
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Define good life. Spoiler: there is not such thing as an absolute definition of a "good life."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:58 AM
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You literally came into a thread about how boys suffer and then noted "daughters suffer too." How is that not minimizing men's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:02 PM
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No, women are sexist and objectify men. Women are at fault for there actions, not men. Even if women are doing it in reaction to what men do, that does not mean that men are at fault here. The issue is misandry. We do not educate women that men are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:53 PM
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It is deeper then that. The issue is we see men as tools, not human beings. The red pill, black pill, incels, etc are just an extension of this issue. Men need to earn love, sex, acceptance, respect, etc and that fucks them up and results in over 30% of men being a fucking mess. Men cannot be male role models for they are not human and need to buy everything. So men are incentivized to not be good male role models, they do not want to be losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:50 PM
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The problem is that many not crazy feminists are also much more misandrist then they think. Our culture has a really bad misandry problem. That is what is leading to male toxicity. But for some reason we pretend it is different with men. We treat men like tools that exist to serve women and others. They need to earn acceptance, love, support, respect and the only people who acknowledge them as human are conservative. Liberals and democrats need to wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:47 PM
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Can I have some links to this? I do not doubt that you are right. They lack the rights citizens have and so evil people would love to target them. Humans in general are really rapey, we only care when certain people are raped. Humans are really shitty in general. We still make use of slavery, oppression, murder, etc and rely on choosing to be ignorant of it all to pretend we are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:07 PM
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This is not true, many men are not interested in being gross sluts. The average man only has 5ish partners and settles down quickly. Many do not want casual sex at all. The men interested in being gross sluts are more likely to pursue what will allow them to be gross sluts, which is why you see men who can usually do be gross sluts. If they were not interested in it, they would not go to the extremes to be the man to get it. And as someone in swinger culture, MMF are less popular in some culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:04 PM
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Our instincts are obviously outdated and gets in the way of a large number of people having good relationships and possibly lives in the modern world. Both have a selfish dual mating strategy. Men want sex with as many women as possible because it increases the chance to have offspring. It does not matter if they sleep with a woman who is sleeping with other men. Or if she is getting gangbanged. Some sex with a woman means greater chance for offspring. And other men getting involved actually can…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:46 PM
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Yeah, it is pretty clear you did not read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:39 PM
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Beta bux is an insult for it is not respected in the modern environment. Beta bux is just slang for being a good man. Even many rich and famous men are beta buxs but are very successful with women. In the modern environment, women are entitled to what they want from men for men are not human. So being a beta bux largely results in you being treated like shit and being taken advantage of. That is why the “bar is in the floor.” Women believe they are owed the treatment they want from men. So it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:28 PM
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That is the main problem with this all. Women being sexist and superficial pigs? Men are the problem for not meeting her sexist and superficial standards for women are entitled to it. Men being sexist and superficial pigs? That is sexist, men need to lower there standards so women can get what they want with less effort. Aka a toxic dishonest negotiation. They are so blind they do not even understand they are proving us right. I note that women should be honest. They go “oh so you want be to ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:31 AM
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Isn’t it great? A lot of these responses we all can go “exactly” and they are too sexist to see it. Once you swallow the red pill and understand how manipulative and dishonest women are. You can read the “womanese” to see that many if not most women are just sexist pigs with horrible personalities. Women here want to pretend rejecting a man because he is not a male Victoria secret model does not make them shallow. That objectifying men and treating them as cows to milk is not sexist at all. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:03 AM
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If that is who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:02 AM
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Exactly my entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:33 PM
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If you have so much to say about women not telling you the truf, you are precisely the reason why the rest of men don't get to hear it either. Dude, listen to yourself. You do not want to tell the truth for it would reveal too much of who you really are. You want to keep this bullshit of women being “sugar, spice and everything nice” going. Because when you fuck a hot toxic dude, you do not want to be accountable. If you were honest, there would be no sympathy because of how shitty your standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:33 PM
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Exactly, show them who you are over being a fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:05 PM
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Yes, better to show them who you really are then wear such a stupid mask like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:07 PM
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Because we all want to pretend women’s sexuality is holy. Being honest is something women will not do, and the offensive politeness is honestly more offensive than being honest. It is infantising men. That is the real problem. So ofc men get mad that women lie. And they get so offended that they insult back at times. Which is then framed as him being horrible. Nevermind how shitty the dishonesty is and his feelings. Hypocrisy framed as women being victimized by men so they can avoid accountabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:53 PM
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It is insulting no matter what. That is often why men get so offended even when said nicely. And why women use the counter insults said means they only want sex or are not actually nice. When in reality. She said, you are ugly to me in a very offensive way In matter of fact, it sounds worse being “polite” like that. Is condescending and dishonest. Saying “sorry, but you are not my type” would be far better. In matter of fact, I would argue women know they are being condescending and more insulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:42 PM
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Nobody says all abusive men are attractive. Literally nobody. Just because people do not put a *Not all attractive men are abusive" footnote in every post does not mean they think every man is abusive when they say something like "women date hot and abusive men." People note that women (and really men too) chase hot abusive, toxic, man-children, etc all the time as WAAAAY too many people keep arguing that it is all about "personality," that women have this six sense where they can determine a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:35 PM
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Nobody learns your real personality like that. If it really was about personality, most people would have zero to two exes max as they would be dating the right partner right away. Instead it is all about shallow things. Money, looks, confidence, preselection, status, how useful you are, how much jesteemaxxing you do. It takes several months to learn someone’s personality and often times they will not date you even if they realize you two are “soul mates.” Which is why so many relationships and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:10 AM
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Apologies, it is impossible to read emotion on an Internet forum. And this place is filled with too much bitterness and anger lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:50 PM
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Everyone cusses at me here already. I have been called every insult in the book here lol. I do not really care because I desire real equality. What is funny is in real life, girls agree with me all the time. Even my wife does. Part of it is because they know my background. They know that I was really kind and sweet when young, they know women treated me like shit for it, they know those women went on to date abusive men, etc. I am even friends with the best friend of my childhood crush now and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:43 PM
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I prefer women who are more masculine. Women who are loud, speak their mind and are aggressive. A woman who can stand up and speak her mind is one I adore. Submissive women are boring as they are too passive. I want a woman who comes at me and takes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:46 PM
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Well, women are entitled to sex from us when they need it. Consent is never considered and men are raised to believe they owe women sex, protection, support, etc. https://youtu.be/MSEqchtpTIk?si=XNQ7Et0Sod_7tywI Honestly, all this talk of men not being owed x because they are not entitled is bs. Men are not entitled to sex in our culture because of the patriarchy. In the patriarchy, men had to buy sex, respect and acceptance. Now women have been liberated from their role, but men still have to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:19 PM
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No, women are accountable for there actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:26 PM
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Except women were always really rapey. It was only just recently that we started seeing male victims of anything as victims at all. Really, this is misandry and you are being very sexist. We are equal, meaning women are just as shitty as men in every way. You are just going to have to accept that. I mean, trying to reframe this as being the result of women being equal to men is laughable. We are far from equal, women need to lose the privileges they pretend they are entitled to first. And the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:25 PM
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Always was. Think of our media. Female victims are often portrayed as protagonists and it is even seen as a good thing. Take Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella. And this is true for modern media too. While male victims are portrayed as losers or evil. At best it is about the male moving past his trauma to become a “real” man (aka be a useful idiot). Ofc they frame it in a way that is entertaining and makes it all look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:19 PM
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Trying to frame women as “morally” superior and all men as immoral and narcissistic is sexist. It is anything but actually being morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:13 PM
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That is sexist. Sorry, but men and women are equal. Women statistically have always been just as rapey. We just hide over 80% of female on male rape under the “forced to penetrate” section. Many countries even make it physically impossible for women to be seen as rape (ex: only humans born with a penis can rape under UK law). And with this in mind, it stands to reason that men under report like crazy because most rape may not even know they were raped because of the distortion of rape. Trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:11 PM
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It is hypocritical too. If we were to do the same thing with minority groups to say they are more violent, that is racist. People love equality until it comes to misandry and women getting benefits from the patriarchy, then equality is sexist. If anything, the disparity of how much more violent men are shows that men are being failed as a gender. We treat them like tools and they respond in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:28 AM
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Consent only matters when it comes to her. Many countries do not even recognize women on men rape at all. The rest just do not count over 80% of male rape cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:25 AM
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You forgot to mention that our culture believes women are entitled to sexual pleasure with the men they want (a incel wet dream). When a woman rapes a child, people act like it is not a big deal or that he is lucky somehow. Men are drugged up so women can rape them. But unlike the inverse scenario, it is okay. We do not even count “forced to penetrate” victims in rape data. In several countries, women raping men does not count (Australia and the UK as an example). Many men have been conditioned …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:23 AM
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When do I say that? Quote me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:40 PM
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This is why the “ok boomer” saying exists. You cannot just pretend your experiences matter and everyone else’s experiences that does not align with your experiences are “gaslighting.” The level of arrogance is just not worth bother reading. I am done. You have no argument, just your baseless opinion which is just as valid as any other opinion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:39 PM
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The obvious answer is he is not hot, but thinks he is hot shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:55 PM
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Dude, my entire life proves how delusional that claim that " social skill don't matter" is. I am surrounded (in society and my own friends) by ugly men with good social skills and hot wives. BS, I bet the men are way more attractive (or the women less attractive) then you are saying. Especially because you said this: When I was young and super hot in my late teens / early 20's, I had poor social skills and was very unsuccessful with women, looks didn't matter.Then when I picked up good skills th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:53 PM
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I did not dodge anything. You are pretending men are responsible for women and society’s actions. Your question is making things personal too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:21 PM
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Liar. Women are much harder on men than men will ever be. Quit blaming men for societies and women’s standards and bullshit that they place on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:53 PM
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Men are just as insecure as women are, we just are not human beings. So we cannot remain insecure. Instead we are pressured, abused and used until we are molded to better fit the cookie cutter mold women/society wants us to fill. We are gaslit all the while and subtly pressured to even kill ourselves if we fail to provide what others want to use us for. Depending on our caste, looks, etc that cookie cutter mold is different for each man. A man who would make a good computer scientist is pushed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:18 PM
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They just want them to continue to run the race. Perhaps it is because they are afraid they will become a threat to them, society, whatever. Perhaps it is because there lives are not that great and they want to feel superior. Perhaps they do not want to lose hope themselves. Perhaps they just hate men. The truth is increasingly obvious to see. If you are not hot and/or rich in the west, you are going to have a bad time dating. Even if you get a girl, it would just be a miserable experience as sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:57 PM
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And I am trying to understand why your argument matters here. Why does it matter if “men do it too?”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:11 PM
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Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:44 PM
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The thing is both can happen, even if only 5% of women would dare older, that is still millions of women. Blue pillers just want to try to stop it from happening because of misandry and agism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:29 PM
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No, tons of women would be interested. The issue is a ton will not too. So you got to ask out a lot of women and find the girls who will say yes. The only issue is you ur modern culture does not see men as human. So if he asks out a girl and she says no, others might try to make him into a creep. But that is true everywhere. Even exercising at a gym will lead to women trying to make you into a creep or sexual predator for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:27 PM
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Why does that matter here? Men are not the ones gaslighting women that it is some moral failing. In matter of fact, a large chunk of our culture more or less hates men’s sexuality because of its shallowness (they only want one thing). They even take it too far and spread lies that sex is all men think about. Why do you have to bring up men here(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:24 PM
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Women even date hot fake “nice guys” all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:21 PM
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No, men are much more honest about what they like in women (including being blunt about loving ass, titties and pussy). Sure some men do lie, but what does that have to do with anything in this context anyways? Suppose every single man alive is lying that there is some deep connection, why does that matter at all here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:20 PM
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Yeah, no. Some women are not afraid and are manipulative psychopaths. But I find most women are just walking balls of insecurity. They want you to be strong because they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:17 PM
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Like play video games or watch a movie on the job? Sounds dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:44 AM
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Some mythical spiritual deep connection over he is hot and useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:43 AM
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That is because women are more socially awkward, insecure and not confident. But unlike men, our culture believes women are prizes like we are still in a patriarchy. So they never have to grow or develop after they turn 16ish years old (unless they want to ofc) while men are expected to buy her, and so they endlessly must improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:23 AM
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We can put it into words, but they want to pretend there is something less shallow to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:21 AM
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Dehumanizing means “ depriving a person or group of positive human qualities” If being natural or “what it means to be human” is irrelevant. Love and sex results in us stereotyping and objectifying others, dehumanizing them. X person is ugly, so we dehumanize him/her when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:19 AM
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Not like a middle schooler
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:47 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:56 PM
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Even if we could somehow wave a magic wand and make every guy a kind person, women would just gravitate towards the same attractive guys anyway. Nothing would change for struggling guys. Not to mention that women who date horrible men tend to gravitate towards them. You make horrible men good and those same women will go date the remaining horrible men. Same with men who keep chasing crazy girls. It is his fault All men can really do is FORCE women to date and marry good men. Which we obviously …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:54 PM
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I literally directly responded to your previous post. Here is a little bit of my my post for you to remember: Unless you are willing to go in and force that culture to somehow be rich and give women free money that they do not even have to give, those are the only two options for these women. How is that not directly addressing your previous point? Pretending my valid point is not “directly” engaging you because you do not like it does not mean I am not directly responding to your argument. Hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:49 PM
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I am not a woman, I am not human. Either I trade for what I want, or I get nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:30 PM
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You sound like one of those people that hate how Mr. beast helped a bunch of blind people see. “But but they should have been given the treatment for free” and then try to frame him as an evil person. Unless you are willing to go in and force that culture to somehow be rich and give women free money that they do not even have to give, those are the only two options for these women. Women are not entitled to a high value life for free, nobody is. Unless you personally are going to go in and give …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:28 PM
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Relationships are always transactional. It is absurd that western cultures favor female sexuality so much that men’s value is taken for granted and women feel entitled to a lot of what they want for free. The scales are not tipped in the favor of men in those cultures, it is the opposite. The world is much more equal there, the lack the entitlements that richer countries provide them because politicians sell women free stuff for power means women respect and value what men give a lot more. In th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:56 PM
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So you would rather women suffer in poverty than get a much better life with a high value man who can provide her said better life? lol. If men are leaving the market and can get a much better deal elsewhere, that is a sign that he is undervalued in the current market at best. That you feel entitled to them accepting the relationship and deal you want them in. Like a sales men getting pissed that a customer left to go buy a higher quality product at a much cheaper price elsewhere. “But but he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:45 PM
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Ofc I want to be in love with someone. But to pretend it is something isn’t is why I never got any success with it when I was young. I hate sex and how transactional it is. But it is what it is. I lacked the born privilege to live in a Disney fantasy bubble. And if you do not have that privilege, then you do not get good relationships at all or love unless you properly negotiate. You just get exploited and forced into relationships you do not want or are happy with (assuming you get a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:39 PM
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Nope. Humans natural strategies for sex and love is dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:27 PM
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Humans hate the truth of love and sex. They want to pretend love and sex is this special, good and even holy thing. When it really is a male ape trying to shoot mucus from his meaty pee stick in a female apes stinky ass to impregnate her. So the truth and those who say it will always be labeled, insulted and such. Love and sex is objectifying, transactional, sexist, gross, selfish, a eugenists wet dream, etc. Which is why humans have this weird hypocritical puritan view of sex one second, then a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:02 PM
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I said the truth on another post here (that will probably be downvoted into oblivion by blue pillers without them being able to make any counter argument at all lol). How is describing the truth of something dehumanizing? Love is dehumanizing and really shit when you remove the bs. Does describing a shirt being red make it red? Or are we just describing what color the shirt already is? Is the messenger evil for telling the truth or is the listener just living in denial?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:53 PM
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Love itself is dehumanizing. It is raw, discriminatory and a eugenists wet dream. It is where a large number of hope and dreams die, it causes countless people to suffer endlessly from trauma, abuse, discrimination, mental issues, etc (including children involved). We pretend it is pure and good, but it is all about exploiting and objectifying others to bring selfish pleasure and meaning to ourselves. But because it feels good and we want feelings = reality, we pretend it is good. So yeah, expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:10 PM
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Because it is all relative. The more men do, the more yet men have to do in order to be worthy. So unless you are in the top 40-20 percent, it is pretty pointless. You will just have to do more work and women will just become more unattractive yet as the bar raises too (because collective self improvement lowers men’s value and her incentive to do anything for men). If men theoretically all became lazy, fat man children, the next generation of women would become really hot and have amazing perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:51 AM
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The self improvement hamster wheel has a strong grifting overlap. That is true for all bullshit like this really. They always try to get the slaves to run as fast as they can. They need to always offer a carrot you can never catch and pretend the reason you do not have the carrot is you never ran fast enough. That you are just entitled and want the carrot for free if you express any complaints or negotiate at all. The truth is the men who are successful with dating rarely ever put in any actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:42 AM
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What does about topic have to do with this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:20 PM
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You do not even have any statistics and just because you do not like them, they are not misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:11 PM
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Yes, he does. But that does not reduce her responsibility at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:10 PM
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Because single mothers statistically raise most for the worlds school shooters, incels, criminals, mentally ill, rapists, etc. While there is no data that says incels make up any sizeable amount of criminal activity at all. They are even a small minority of school shooters, but the majority of school shooters are from single mother households. They (and deadbeat dads ofc) are one of the only groups lower then incels on the totem pole. All she needed to do, was her job of mating with a good man. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:50 AM
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Why does that matter in this context? How does that make single mothers not trash? How does that make op right at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:43 AM
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Except those men do not do what they want. They often end up in jail and are only street smart because they are too dumb to work a good job. They are very insecure and so they always need to frame themselves in a way that sounds amazing (I am not bad at it, I am just too cool for work/school lol). Women love hot bad boys for they are hot and exciting. They enjoy trying to “save” them and try to turn them into a good man (because they do not like his personality, they want his body to have the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:05 AM
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That is like saying women are jealous of incels or else they would not be obsessed with hating on them. Single mothers are low value. They raise criminals, school shooters and are the biggest deadweights. They make us all poorer. And many of them act like they are the shit still, when they should just stfu and go take responsibility for there poor decisions instead. A single mother deserves a man that is 3-5+ points lower then her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:44 AM
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They do not want you to understand, they want you to give single moms what they want or else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:41 AM
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Always was that way. People use to do a better job lying and it is way easier to get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:37 AM
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Sadly, most people are too stupid to see it. At best they are purposefully selecting contestants that would generate drama on purpose to be more entertaining. Many people think Disney cartoons and reality is real life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:36 AM
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We insult them as man children and tell them to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:32 AM
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Man, the chance to fall in love and get married to a nice and attractive girl not glued to her phone? I would work 80 hours for the rest of my life for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:42 PM
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Love and lust are not always interlinked. For romantic relationships, it should always be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:20 PM
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Ok who says everyone wants “the chad” experience. Did you forget the context of this argument? > Also what is the Chad experience? Getting the romantic fun men want. >Just getting a girl that like you a lot. Most dudes get it. Define “like you a lot.” >Just not always from a girl they think is cute. So date a woman they do not find attractive…sounds like a recipe to be bitter and miserable. > And see what first hand? People being attracted to attractive?! That girls actually lust, love and feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:07 PM
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You are partially right. It is a combination of innocence and youth. The more sex you have, the less capacity you have to love. But just getting more experienced in general from aging ruins a lot of the best parts of relationships. But if you try to get married early, you are more than likely going to pick the wrong one anyways. The truth is most people lose when it comes to relationships. Even the advice we give is how to not lose as much or to cope with the lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:59 PM
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Not really “Chad needed” for romance. Most people like 68 percent of LTRs started as friends first. Getting in a LTR is pointless if you do not get the Chad experience. Most men do not even know what it feels like to be lusted after by a woman. They just assume she is not a sexual person and such. Once you know what it is like or see it first hand, you cannot go back. More and more men are realizing that women can actually lust and treat you how you want. I think part of the problem here is dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:54 PM
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To get the romantic experience men want, you need to be the Chad to her. If you want got be used for free dinner dates, jump through hoops, be disrespected, forced to wait several dates to get sexual fun, her way worse sexual fun, etc, then sure, you just need to be fun to be around and average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:31 PM
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No, black sticks around for it is right for them. They just cannot be the Chad no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:19 PM
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You are doing the equivalent of writing poor people off for believing the game is rigged against them for they see how “If you don’t think work ethic and passion matter you probably don’t have any.” But you missed the point. You are not going to rich via effort or passion. Yeah sure, technically it matters…if you have the privileges for it to matter to begin with. You even slightly admit as much when you mention you have to reach a certain threshold. But that threshold is much higher then you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:17 PM
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People tend to associate men’s reactions to what the pills say with what the pills actually say. Red pill says women are x, you need to be y to be what women want. Lots of men do not want to be y, do not like that women are x or feel betrayed because they were lied to that women are z. So they often respond negatively. Black pillers are the perfect example of this because of what you said. It is a way to write off what they say without actually proving them wrong. It would be like saying feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:10 PM
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All supposedly married people are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:50 PM
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It just hints at a bigger issue that is really gender neutral. Lots of lower paying jobs require you to work your ass off and hate when you goof off at all. Men see this and think “oh, so women are allowed to good off like children and get paid a ton while I have to ‘man up’ and suffer endlessly.” But white collar workers (and blue collar workers when nobody is looking) often work a much more laid back environment to begin with. Many men goof off in those jobs too (like play Elden Ring on the jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:04 PM
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Neither men nor women perpetuate gynocentrism or simping. If is just human nature. If men did not idolize women as goddesses, we would go extinct as men would not bother improving for women at all while women would have zero interest in being with men equal to them. It is why anytime we try to make things more equal, birth rates plummet. Women want a man better than them, but are not worthy of a man like that. So men need to see her as a precious trophy to put in the work to breed. Otherwise you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:55 PM
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The real problem is morality is bs to begin with. It really means either “What benefits me or is neutral is good, what hurts me is evil” or they are following some authoritarian figures morality that follows that same idea. Take murder. Is murder evil? Yes…until it is for our benefit. Then suddenly murder is good and justified. Or slavery. It is evil right? Well…until you realize that we all love it. A lot of the cheap products we love are made with literal child slavery (ex: chocolate, Campbell…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:45 PM
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There is no age gap that is too big. Anyone who believes two consenting adult should be forced apart because of some third parties judgements is the only one with a problem. And there should be no problem with some old men/women asking out a young man/woman either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:33 PM
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That is sexist. Like replace men with black here, suddenly that would be racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:29 PM
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Because there is a poor man who became a billionaire, all ugly men can get super attractive women with effort. Spoiler: most ugly men settle for ugly women (and vice versa). And the few exceptions are usually because the guy let himself go after marriage (usually because he is too busy providing, takes her for granted or he is unhappy with her for some reason), he is exceptional in some form that is not easily noticeable (makes over 100,000, famous, etc), she has self-esteem issues or started of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:18 PM
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People just think a 5/10 man is actually a 2/10 and a 5/10 woman is actually a 8/10. Most “hot” women are often the equivalent of a scrawny nerd or a chubby dude. We just have lower standards for women and even find women’s flaws and quirks hot. Like a chubby girl will often be regarded as hot because her tits and ass are bigger, we just ignore the belly she has. And this continues until she is obese. But a dude who is a healthy average weight is seen as less attractive for he does not have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:58 AM
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Yeah, it use to be a lot more common for men to be able to safe really hot women and get them to love her. Back when meh simps were not throwing themselves at every attractive women telling her that she is some goddesses to try to get access to her fertility. I think most people get the idea that women care more about personality because men use to be able to swoop in and safe a hot red head who was bullied for being a red head, from a toxic home, nobody loved her yet, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:56 AM
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That is literally because you are straight. Most attractive women are the equivalent of scrawny nerdy incels and chubby dudes with artificial enhancements that men cannot use. Most women you think are hot do not compare to the men you think are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:51 AM
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Women do not have inherent value, men just undervalue themselves in our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:49 AM
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Like 90% of the men at my university don't even wash their hands after going to the bathroom. If I were a woman I would not date them either. That is sexist. Spoiler: women do not wash their hands and are really gross too. The idea that women’s bathrooms are somehow this heavenly place of cleanliness is so bs, just be assigned to clean women’s bathrooms. You will see tampons in sinks, poop in trash cans and other nasty shit. Women also go out with messed up hair, pajama pants and looking pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:48 AM
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You cannot be direct for it frames women and their sexuality in a bad light. That is why RP talking points are hated. Directly saying something like “AF/BB” frames women as using and objectifying men based on what benefits them. Even in extreme cases where women are beating, raping and killing people, you need to be careful about framing women negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:38 AM
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Yeah, no. Overpopulation will never happen as humans will just stop having kids naturally when they are no longer needed. And women were popping out kids like crazy throughout history. It has nothing to do with af/bb. The reason why af/bb is a thing is because of a intersexual competition. We need a way to determine which man is the best and in our violent past the alpha was the best. In the modern world, alphas are not the best anymore. Many alphas are losers who would be dead if they were not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:32 AM
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It is more that it does not make logical sense in a modern context. Everyone just assumes that we have advanced because technology and society has also advanced. But the only reason women were as awesome as they were is because of the rules society placed upon them. So women devolving into beasts enslaved by there instincts is not something humans want to admit. Instead they pretend women are as awesome as they were in the past. Same thing would happen if men were liberated in a similar way. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:27 AM
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It is pretty obvious too. Many girls considered hot are the equivalent of scrawny meh looking nerds or chubby men. Very few women have the curves and such to actually be equal to Chad. We even try to artificially raise women’s value via cosmetic surgery, hair extensions, toppers and makeup. But if a man does the same that is creepy. And not just looks. Many women are just as socially awkward and poor as loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:51 AM
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I find it funny that most women I talk to in person agree with me on red pill talking points when they do not realize you are talking about red pill talking points. Everyone just starts to lie as soon as a man is blunt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:09 AM
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Bingo. It easy to talk shit when you are literally already entitled to what you want from the system.. Our culture is built now so women are entitled to what they want from men without having to provide anything in exchange. The few things they society does not have control over, they try their best with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:20 AM
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Wait, so because whites have a greater chance of familial wealth, they all need to be held accountable for how privileged they are? Even though even according to you it is a chance…meaning some whites (and men) would have a chance to be less privileged?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:01 PM
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The point is that they can very well make shit up or exaggerate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:44 PM
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Your issue is with women wanting something at one point in our lives, and something else at another point in our lives. I never said anything close to that. I clearly stated that dating is not worth it because women are treating men as objects. Using men based on what benefits her current wants and priorities. Like me wanting hot easy women for dating when young for sex and then wanting a good traditional virgin to marry later. After I am done using her for children, I cheat or divorce her for f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:42 PM
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Just world fallacy. Tons of people get zero success and then tons of success later and vice versa. Some amazing men and women get zero success because of external circumstances or bad luck. While some terrible people get tons of success because of luck and external circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:52 PM
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I TOTALLY KNOW a girl who was a virgin until 40 years old and as a result could cast magic spells like a wizard. So from my perspective virgins are all magic wizards and everyone who has sex before 20 years old is a Nazi. You see the problem yet? “I know x…” does not mean Jack squat and just leads to insane arguments that will always be ignored. At best it is mansplaining or womansplaing. Like a guy trying to womansplain to a woman what pregnancy is like because he knows someone who is pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:48 PM
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That is an intellectually dishonest reply. The post I responded to is what I responded to. Trying to use an absurd example to write away using men is another reason why men should not bother with dating. You cannot even have a honest disagreement without said manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:43 PM
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Aka if a man wants anything at all from a relationship, he is objectifying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:47 PM
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That makes it more valid really. The truth is too threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:37 PM
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I don't believe in holding anyone accountable for actions they didn't commit, just because they happen to be a member of the same demographic as the offender. That is very hypocritical in the modern world. Whites and men are held collectively accountable for the actions of a few all the time in many contexts. Generalizations and holding an entire group accountable are not only okay, but encouraged. Why is generalizations only not okay when it comes to women? A woman screaming that all men are tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:36 PM
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I suppose you can think that, but it really implies a bigger issue in the relationship that is more complicated then “he hates his wife.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:02 PM
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Yep, intersexual competition is at the root of the issue. Both men and women are causing all modern dating issues together because they are all playing to win. And each decade or so, the competition gets more extreme and so more toxicity and selfishness is needed to win: The people who buck the trend lose or their children lose. So the bs will more then likely get worse and worse until a large number of people decide to unite to end the intersexual competition via artificial means again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:01 PM
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That is the same for most problems in the modern world. There is no conspiracy that one side is ruining everything. It is mostly just everyone trapping themselves in suffering because everyone is playing to win for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:57 PM
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They probably have an unhappy relationship where they are not getting the intimacy and love they want. Perhaps they settled for a girl that others told them too (always a big no no). Or they have a deadbedroom. Or the wife is okay with it because she does not want to sleep with him. Or maybe they just hate their wives. Not enough information to really say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:48 PM
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No, they are real. And it is not just sex either. They have an easy time getting relationships with men. I see it with my own two eyes all the time. The only reason it is frequently missed is that people assume men are lower value than women because they think she is some kind of prize (instead of the relationship itself being the prize). It is why women often refuse to date there equal (autistic women refuse to date autistic men, obese women refuse to date obese men, short women refuse to date …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:45 PM
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You do realize most men who see sex workers, pay only fan stars and such are married yes? Unsuccessful men who have no success in dating do not have the money to spend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:51 AM
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Based on all the data we have, that is false. There is zero data that says or even hints at this. Men are very realistic in who there equal match is. They will ofc ask out hotter women (and less attractive), but that is not the same as thinking she is his equal. It is women who think 80% of men are below average, they are the ones who think they are equal to a 7/10 dude when they are a 4/10 because of the excess attention they receive from men. And 4/10 women do get a lot of attention. On fetlif…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:49 AM
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Because women like men who are confident. If men think of themselves as more attractive, women like them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:39 AM
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And this is why marriage and relationships should die. Using men like that based on what they want at the current time basically makes good men suckers. You just get all the work and no play.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:37 AM
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It is because men value women for her fertility, while women value men for the utility he provides her. Even if a girl is “lower value” than a man, her fertility is still innately valuable. Also, why men are so look focused and do not care about her career as much. While a woman does not need a man innately, so he needs to provide excess value to her. Making her equal gender bent counterpart not offer much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:45 AM
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This is why studies are so useless on this forum tbh. The studies are too weak and often end up falling the repeatability test.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:41 AM
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So you did not read the link. They used GSS data and several other sources. And claiming other sources is trash when using psychology today is hilarious. Psychology today even says the data say women are happier being married: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-of-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/202403/is-marriage-good-or-bad-for-women?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:14 PM
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Even psychology today says the psychology today link op posted is bs: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-of-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/202403/is-marriage-good-or-bad-for-women?amp I mean, if we are okay using psychology today, anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:09 PM
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Did you read the nonsense you posted and compare it to the data I linked? Calling any of that data should be a sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:06 PM
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The idea that women are happier single is a LIE. There is NO data that says that. Even the link you posted does not have any data that says that. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-is-happiest-married-mothers-and-fathers-per-the-latest-general-social-survey
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:53 PM
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Nagging is a symptom of a failing relationship, usually. That does not change the fact that it is literally verbal abuse. Perhaps he is an abusive of useless piece of trash, but so is she. If she wanted a man “pulling his weight,” she would date a man that would be doing so to begin with. Not dating a man who does not provide what she wants in the relationship, then try to force him to change via domestic abuse for whatever reason. That is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:12 PM
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Did you read the comments? Many are just plain misandry and irrational hatred at the same level misogynistic extremists spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:35 PM
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I think it would benefit everyone if we could make everyone experience everything the other side does for a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:19 PM
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“You’re acting as if without feminism-women cannot have rights, speak for themselves and be empowered. It sounds like indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:28 AM
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Nagging is emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:26 AM
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I got it from you. You literally said yes men have stated several times they prefer "submissiveness" and obedience. it's not that these women are negative. it's that they aren't doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:33 PM
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Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:32 PM
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Even assuming that is true, there is more evidence. While the first few drops of ejaculate facilitate sperm transport, the last few have spermicidal properties (Baker & Bellis, 1995). Therefore, in the event of a double mating, the second male's sperm would be met with a spermicidal layer left by the first. Men with prostate or seminal vesicle dysfunction sometimes have a reversed seminal fluid sequence and are often rendered infertile (Kvist, 1991). The first few drops of ejaculate also functio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:08 PM
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Damn, I did not know evolution could be so offensive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:05 PM
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And a short dude can take out 5 tall dudes with a gun. Doesn’t stop women from wanting tall men to feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:04 PM
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Doormats really? God, it is exhausting with how DESPERATE people are to dehumanize and dishonestly try to negotiate. “I like women who are pleasant, agreeable and peaceful” “So you are saying you want her to be a slave?” “I like women who are respectful and submissive” “So you are saying you want a doormat” “I like women who are innocent and young at heart.” “So you want to rape babies then monster?” I wish I was exaggerating. All real things said many many times here. I really cannot believe me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:45 PM
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Assertive literally means slightly aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:35 PM
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Yes, humans are shit all around really. We are designed to shit all over everyone else for our own selfish benefit and then pretend we are the shit. Men and women both want what benefits them exclusively while giving as little as possible for it. So they both want to have sex with who benefits them the most and then get the long term relationships from who benefit them the most. Often they are not the same person and they will go behind the back of the long term partner to get the best of both. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:29 PM
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Women are Venus fly traps for men. There bodies are built to be soft and comforting. While men’s is built to be strong. They are like a flower drawing men to them (to the point they get harassed). If you did not know, men can be multi organic too (I am), women have an easier time doing it because they do not have to worry about the Refactory period. Women’s orgasm is just something that is just there, most women never even knew they could orgasm. Women are designed to be gangbanged, then lose in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:48 PM
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Did you not read what I already said? I am not going to repeat myself over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:24 PM
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Then it is pretty clear you are not interested in a honest discussion at all then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:25 PM
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No, it is because of evolution. The orgasm gap exists because women’s pussies have not evolved “correctly” to allow them to orgasm easily enough during sex. Women should be orgasming just as easily as men, perhaps when the man shoots cum in the pussy. Spending 20+ minutes trying to get her off to cum is unnatural. It is like giving a 20+ minute blow job. Many times that means he has to spend 20+ minutes getting absolutely no pleasure. And even after all that effort, she might still not cum no ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:22 PM
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I believe that anyone who makes dishonest questions like this will only ever get stupid prizes. Engage me honesty or do not bother at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:00 PM
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Someone feeling pressured to do something because of the reality of it is not someone being forced to do anything. That mentality is really selfish and unethical. You are effectively blaming the victim for others feeling bad for their suffering. Like getting mad that a homeless person’s suffering and crying for food is bad for it is putting pressure on others to give him something. He is not going to die because they gave him nothing, he technically does not need it to live as he ate yesterday. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:37 AM
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Well, the same would be true if men somehow could get access to sex without women and having kids. Suddenly lots of men who say they care and love women would suddenly stop simping and be honest about it. While now, the only men honest are those who have nothing to lose (those who win for free and those who lost with no hope of winning). Many men would suddenly be liberated to be themselves without needing to do any “self-improvement” to be a “real man.” Aka they no longer need to objectify them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:00 PM
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Redpill men are part of that crowd but can’t recognize their own victims mentality because they are caught up with the superficial aspects of “self improvement”. BS, Red Pill does the opposite. They literally say: “No one is entitled to anything. This is what women really want. If you want a woman, do it.” I rarely see them actually having better relationships and the men who do find a good relationship typically leave RP alone & move on with their lives. Many men who have “good” relationships d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:45 AM
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Yeah, no. You are assuming way too much in a very sexist way. Just because a girl wants sex does not mean she has to have sex without restraint or even have sex at all. It could means she has self-discipline, is religious or just believes in saving it for some reason. It could also mean she was not dating for a long time for some reason (ex: trauma), was unattractive before, changed to be more attractive, etc. Or it could mean what you said. It is like saying a man who is a virgin is a loser bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:08 PM
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Experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:14 PM
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Nobody’s minds are going to change from any of this. If it changes, it was already changed and they wanted some validation to justify that change of heart. The same threads and topics have been repeated here for over 5 years for that reason. The same arguments, the same threads, the same studies, etc. I mean, do you think the GSS data has not been talked about here before? I have debated over five different people on the 2022 GSS data before alone. The very next thread the same shit happens agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:13 PM
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Provide better data and a better site. Sir, this is Reddit. I have actually wasted my time on this shit many times (especially with rape data) and nobody will ever take it seriously because it is Reddit. And I realized it just makes me a bigger fool then them for all the investment I made. Blue pillers write off data they deem bad all the time without providing “better data,” which is okay. Taking this sub to seriously just makes the person in question look like a fool because this is Reddit. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 12:11 PM
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That is not love. That type of "love" is based on chemical releases in the brain, dependency, security, fear, conditioning, desire to procreate, etc. But you are right really, "real" love is more or less a fantasy. Buying a sex worker or a surrogate mother is just as moral, loving and pure. Most of what men value in women is just access to her fertility, our bodies just frame it in a way that makes it seem more special then that. Also why they care a lot about looks, her having a low body count,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:16 AM
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It is not a lie, there are no advantages to being married. You can get it all without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:56 PM
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That is some pretty garbage data and a very biased site. One of your links use the GSS data, which fluctuates on a yearly bases even lol. He even says "What stands out? First, we don’t see a persistence of the trend of past years in increasing sexlessness in the GSS data." Hinting at the problem, he cherry picks one year and ignores the trending data for the past 20+ years. Aka, climate change is not real because we had the warmest winter this year. So all previous data is null because it does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:42 PM
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Is that a good enough reason to mutilate the genitalia of babies without there consent? If you are happy with it, then you could always pick to get cosmetic surgery for it at 18 anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:30 AM
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I do not think they even see Chad as human. They often care when a Chad kill’s himself for they worry other men might follow suit. They have no sympathy for him. The only time they care is when Chad dies to save women or children. And they only care for he is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:30 PM
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Nah., it is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:16 PM
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We live in an amoral world where nobody is entitled to anything and men get no sympathy or help at all. Men get raped, held to unrealistic standards, get fucked over an blamed, left of die, told to kill themselves, always told to change for others benefit, told they are horrible people no matter who they are or what they do. Ofc men will become increasingly toxic and toxic movements will gore like crazy. What’s next? Will you get mad at abandoned, neglected and abused dogs for becoming wild, fer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:14 PM
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It was always bs. A few suckers actually follow it, but most just break all the rules until it is time to settle down and they want a get out of free jail card for all there sin. Like most older good Christians are often only successful and there for they were horrible people when young. They had their cake, now they want it back. If they has a Time Machine, they would go back to breaking the rules again. They basically just has there fill of sin or aged out. Also why many suddenly find Jesus wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:09 PM
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No, it is at best polygamous. Even the swinger and polyamorous scene is mostly polygamous. A few dudes get all the girls unless a girl wants to her gangbanged, it is an orgy or a couple swap. This even includes women who are incel level. Dudes are willing to give her a chance but the reverse never happens unless she finds out something exceptional about him. It is why they let single girls in for free while single men are not allowed at all, unicorn chasing is super common, why Fetlife has women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:03 PM
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Because women are entitled to the sexual pleasure they want for it is deemed holy. So unless it is about pleasing female sexuality, it is evil as only women are entitled to intimacy. If a woman is not getting the sexual pleasure she wants, it is a problem. Men need to step up, stop being man-children, men she wants to fuck need commit to her and fuck her exactly when and how she wants. But if a man is not getting the sexual pleasure he wants, that is a good thing for if means women are getting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:41 PM
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“Genitalia mutilation of babies is a non-issue.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:30 PM
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They are perpetuated by society. So ofc men perpetuate it as they are products of society…but so do women. Women hold men to sexist stereotypes more firmly than men ever do. And if you want to womanplain this is not the case, you are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:28 PM
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No what, you are right. We are at the point that those who actually are accountable are screwed over because nobody else is taking accountability. They really just make you pay so they do not have to be responsible. So the only path forward is down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:43 AM
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It is her body, her choice, her responsibility now. If she is fucking shitty men and having kids with them, that is exclusively her fault now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:22 AM
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That sounds too biased to really be taken seriously here. The way you frame trpers just shows that you will never listen. You say they take it to extreme, but you are really taking what they say to the extreme the same wat you are accusing them of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:02 PM
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Sir, this is Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:43 PM
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It is not just looks, otherwise they would not get that love at first sight feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:25 PM
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It is not projection, people can understand a lot about you with a glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:23 PM
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I just hate it for it is just hypocrisy and not an argument. Everything can be framed as entitlement and it is unproductive. Might as well just not say anything at all. Most people do not challenge it for you have to bring up how absurd it is as an idea and they start arguing with feelings. The real argument is always if giving said entitlement is better than not. I basically won this argument too if you read the chain. She does believe people are entitled to certain things, so she does not beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:21 PM
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Whatever will make you unattractive. Which can be hard as men have low physical standards. Way easier for a man to be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:12 PM
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I can fix her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:10 PM
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They would still fall in love with you without those things. You can tell alot about someone by looking at them. Your laugh, body language, how you dress, the way you carry yourself, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:09 PM
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You can tell about someone just from a glance. Your vibe, body language, laugh, etc. It is not just your body they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:08 PM
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Love at first sight is a thing. Funny how men are actually way more romantic and loving than women are in practice. Men fall in love with you, not what you do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 06:49 PM
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Why do I care about what other dudes think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:24 PM
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An obese single mother who deadbedrooms him ofc. He is entitled if he wants anything more. But if said woman cries that you refuse to fuck her, you are a horrible misogynist and possibly even a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:28 PM
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There are a lot of massive cultural issues right now that are compounding. Imagine how crazy it is going to get when the dominos start to fall. And none of this will be fixed because holding women accountable is seen as evil. It will all keep getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:26 PM
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Anything can be rewarding if you think it makes you superior or special.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:23 PM
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This is why men value women's youth so heavily. It matters way more then people think. Especially if you want 3+ kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:09 PM
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It is more that you have to select for the right traits. The partner that makes a good and exciting date is often a bad long term partner. Like a good wife is a woman who is very submissive, agreeable, is as close to a virgin as possible, down to earth, from a good family, takes care of herself, etc. Often they are very plain and softspoken. Many career women are horrible wives. And this is especially a problem with women because nobody teaches them that what they lust for is often the exact opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:07 PM
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Because this is culture where terrible people thrive and win. It is not about personality or morality at all, so those who lack it will always win compared to one over someone who is not terrible. It is why our ancestors locked up a lot of our human nature to begin with. After all, if nobody is entitled to anything, why ever be fair or just? Just exploit and do as much awful things as you need to in order to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:56 PM
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They can just take what they want from you instead because you are not entitled to anything according to your logic. Women/men are not entitled to anything. When you say, "nobody is entitled to anything" what you are really saying is you are entitled to what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:45 PM
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No, it is illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:11 PM
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Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:09 PM
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I thought nobody is entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:09 PM
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So you think the have nots would be happy if they just accepted to go without? How convenient for your selfish benefit. In reality the have nots will always be miserable no matter what they feel they are owed. A slave is not suddenly going to be happy the moment he gives up on believing he is “entitled” to freedom. Same with men and women not getting what they want from relationships because objectification is good as long as it is in direction you want lol. They are not entitled at all, that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:43 PM
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Dating is not a market and the same rules do not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:34 PM
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And yet we will always treat and value them as such. If you think richer men and hotter women are not treated better, have more options, etc because they are better objects, then yeah. Ironically, the only way to change that is remove the dependency on each other for it with a better alternative. But that will never happen because “they are not entitled.” Because people will always exploit the fact that they are objects when it benefits them and never want to let go of that power, but they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:28 PM
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Because the red pill is right about a lot of things, but people want to pretend they are wrong because they are more blunt about it with “bro science” and want to pretend women’s sexuality is holy while men’s is bad. Red pill says women are shallow and perverted like men. So you need to be what they really want (be hot, fun, etc). A lot of men complain about the unrealistic standards just like women do (especially since they are unhealthy and the people demanding it are not that special themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:24 PM
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In reality, the whole world functions based on the reality that people are entitled to shit. Things that we use to write off as “you are not entitled to x” they are entitled to and sometimes considered fundamental rights, major and minor. The only people who can believe “nobody is entitled to shit” are anarchists who believe rape, murder and such is permissible. No stoned enough to defend yourself or take x? Then you are not entitled to x. But that is rarely the case. Most of the time it is “nob…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:08 PM
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No, the fallacy is pretty cut and dry. The Just World Fallacy (aka the Just World Hypothesis) is the assumption or belief that we get what we deserve. So yeah, what you said falls under that umbrella. Just because someone can only get x and not y does not mean they are not as valuable as the y
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:26 AM
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They are just being manipulative bro. We live in the age of equality. To just go full hypocrite and say "not my problem, adapt loser lol" after 60+ years of changing society because "not my problem, adapt loser lol" proves they are dishonest negotiators. They do not want you to adapt, they want to extract what they want from you while giving as little as possible. Like a ruthless businessman who has never spoken a honest word in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:00 AM
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Women have a bunch of problems that impact them in various ways (major and minor)? "OMG society needs to change for this not fair. We should not have to change and adapt to the world." Men have a bunch of problems that impact them in various ways (major and minor)? "Not our problem, life is unfair lol." Pretty funny how hypocritical people get when the genders are inversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:56 AM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:54 AM
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Just world fallacy. Life is not fair, just because you get x and not y does not mean you deserve x instead of y.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:54 AM
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Both are true. Women need to be less picky when it comes to shallow traits, but more picky when it comes to things that actually matter in a partner (stability, loyalty, how nice he is, etc). Aka they should be rejecting the hot guy who is shit and all over the meh dudes who have awesome personalities. OFC, this will never happen for obvious reasons (just change your biology bro), but it is the cause of most modern problems with dating and even beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:52 AM
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It is because of human nature. Humans are creatures of pride, they want to win. But to win, most must lose. Which results in a few winners that others follow because they want to defeat those below or beside them. Especially those they do not like, think are inferior or disagree with. So only those with power can make things better even if said power is artificially given. People will listen and do what those in power want, even if it will lead to their misery. While they will betray and abandon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:53 AM
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Who cares what others do? I am literally the top 20% of everything because I do not care what they do. Let them waste themselves and there lives chasing a bunch of shit that does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:43 PM
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Capitalism exists because it is the most optimal system to those with power. It keeps those below them trapped in endless fighting to make them increasingly rich. Most men at the top do not follow any of the rules of capitalism. Most do not pay taxes, they steal, rape, are cowardly, lazy, do drugs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:14 PM
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Sounds like you are. You're a bitter loner who refuses to form healthy connections with other people because you have too much rage and hate towards everyone, especially women. It's extra pathetic. 100% loser behavior. Sorry, but I will never be a loser. You are just a stranger who is going on a crusade against men who do not want to be married for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:12 PM
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Why are you lying about what I said? You know what I said. I think men who judge other men based on how successful they are with women are stupid and misandrist. No, anyone who judges their gender/race/culture on how successful they are appealing to another gender/race/culture is trash. Especially when the only reason that is the case is so rich fat old people can farm you for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:04 PM
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What? No one thinks highly of a man with a good wife because he must be spending a lot of money on her and the family and because they are capitalist that is good because they are propping up the economy. No But that is why men believe it means a signal of competence. Or rather, why we were conditioned to believe so. I mean, I am sure men who could not even graduate high school but have five baby mommas are competent lol. You do realize IQ is correlated with being less likely to be successful wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:56 AM
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No, there is no purpose at all. The meaning of your life is whatever you want it to be. If life all died tomorrow, nothing would be lost or gained. Humanity does not matter, life does not matter. The reason why animals mostly are driven to reproduce is animals driven to reproduce are more likely to reproduce. So animals typically evolve in that direction...but that is not even always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:57 AM
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Being a useful enough idiot to get a girl is not a sign competence. The real reason is capitalism. Men working hard to spend money on women and family is incentivized for this reason. All one has to do is see how big a rip off a lot of the things you are supposed to do for women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:48 AM
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It is insulting tradcon bullshit. Calling the “real man” ideal tradcon a slave and the “man child” free.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:34 PM
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Which is because of op’s point. Men care too much about women’s approval and getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:33 PM
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Because it is pointless to debate with you. You do not even know what the red pill actually believes when you say things like “social skills does not matter.” So what good does taking you seriously do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:28 PM
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Nah, I ain’t a loser. And lol at blaming men for her decisions. Just reverse the genders. “Well, if your husband abuses you it is her fault for marrying him. He is faultless.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:25 PM
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No, they found a correlation between wealth and success with marriage. And they count divorced men as single. Which at best shows women prefer to marry more privileged men. There are no studies that show a causality like you hope. And what you are doing is horribly toxic, if marriage is worth it, it does not need to be sold. Men can determine for themselves what makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:01 PM
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The secret that they never want men to know: That life is better being single. Women are just expensive liabilities who men think they have to live for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:54 AM
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That's false. Men are happiest when married in a successful marriage. No, there is no evidence for that. The only studies we have show married men have more money and other privileges. Which does not mean men are happier being married, it means women want to marry more privileged men and that men who are rich, hot and successful are happier. True, which is why red pill tells the kind of lies that makes men more likely to destroy their relationships and get divorced. What? Women are the ones who …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:53 AM
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Because he cannot prove those points are untrue obviously. He just wants the red pill to be wrong because he does not like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:49 AM
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Best part about "touching grass" is it proves red pill is right. You will see everything they say happen and how little personality matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:47 AM
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No, it is like saying feminists are all commies. Black pill and red pill are completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:45 AM
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No, it matters everywhere and always mattered. Women are just more blunt about it in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:44 AM
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What? Did you read my post at all. The problem is dependency on women to begin with. Men keep suffering because they want to sacrifice there entire life for an overglorified drug. You do not do enough, you lose. You do enough, you lose. The only way to win is not to play at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:42 AM
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No, men need to stop working to earn women. To disrespect oneself by improving themselves to earn a woman is disgusting, atleast incels have an excuse that sounds decent. A woman does not define a man’s value, she does not even care about your struggles or feelings at all. All she is doing sitting there dressing up and complaining about why her useful idiot is taking so long to come. She should be thankful that a man bothers to give her his time, his love, his money, his seed, etc. Modern’s men …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:53 PM
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I would argue a lot if not most men just use women as fertility objects and trophies. Since they treat women as prizes to win instead of people, they tend to be very successful with women too. I find most women I know tended to not care or thought I was stupid until the dude I tried to warn her no longer felt the need to play her. Even many husbands just marry a girl to get access to fertility and show her off. I find women use men too. Sexual pleasure, status and other forms of tools. It is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:00 PM
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Men use women as fertility and status objects all the time. Perhaps even most men. They even value other men based on how hot the women has has is. These men are often really successful with women too. As they go the extra mile to win her like she is a prize (aka playing her and other men involved like a game). I think it is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:46 PM
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It is the opposite. Highschoolers care about being seen as cool by popular kids because that is what humans want. High school and college is basically what humans are in a more fair and controlled environment. After high school the protections and shit is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:43 PM
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Literally the term escort came from that idea. It was originally businessmen paying hot women to ESCORT them to corporate parties and such to get better opportunities and such. Men’s value is defined by the women he sleeps with really. That part of the patriarchy is still seen as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:39 PM
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Because that is all they have to do to get a man period. Getting a hot man is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:20 AM
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To be fair, that blame is well deserved. It is pretty disgusting and toxic. Just like men who demand women to be Victoria secret models who worship them as a god for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:19 AM
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But no one pretends that the “bar is on the floor” for women or tries to blame women when a man keeps dating crazy/trash women because they are hotter. There is no insane “hotter women are morally superior to ugly women because guys want to sleep with them” or “women whom men do not want to date are dangerous or evil.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:56 AM
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Probably forever for women keep pretending that attraction is some Indicator of a persons value (assuming they are not gaslighting and trying to blame men for there poor decisions). The idea that women date shitty men who are attractive/rich/whatever over a good man just cannot exist, so all men must suck or all men who are lower value that do not suck are all fake. So whenever someone mentions the truth they disappear and then go back to saying the bar is on the floor again tomorrow at best. Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:47 AM
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All men have to do is be clean and not abusers (and often that is tolerated if it's only emotional or psychological abuse). So you think male obese, McDonalds workers ante acceptable for a hot woman who spends hours in the gym just because they are clean and do not abuse? lol. Let’s be real. Women say they want tall, masculine and confident men all the time. Which is why they end up with men who are abusive and dirty all the time, because they focus on stuff that does not matter. Then avoid acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:11 PM
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BS, men have to meet unrealistic expectations in terms of income, personality, looks, etc. Even being physically in shape requires you to workout about an hour everyday and a strict diet regiment. And there are massive risks to his reputation when he is alone with the opposite sex. It is called false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:40 PM
2

Isn't the entire biggest gripe men have that they are invisible? The fact that nobody cares or even knows of men's issues shows how hard men's life really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:38 PM
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That is one funny thing about this. Data shows men are the ones quitting in mass numbers (going mgtow) but everyone keeps pretending women are the ones quitting for they do not need men (even in this very thread someone said that). Which also explains why the quality of men are dropping. Many good men have just quit for various reasons and many that remain are putting in way less effort to be a good partner. Men are the ones getting exhausted from what they have to do to get sex or a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:37 PM
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Because over 80% of male rape victims are not counted in rape statistics. Most are hidden under the "forced to penetrate victims" section. Which is either not included or hidden away. Like for CDC data, they report it and label anyone who rapes a man as a person instead of a woman/man in this category. In the 2010-2012 data, men were 57% of rape victims with the majority of rapists being of unknown gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:33 PM
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This inequality exists because there are way more desperate men willing to fuck with a greater range of women than there are women willing to fuck with a greater range of men. Agreed. Men are willing to do more, so women do not have to do as much. So men who sit around get screwed over. Honestly, a lot of it likely comes from the fact that women have gone through a hell of a lot more bullshit from a male dominated society (which seeps into power holding in hetero relationships) and women, as a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:29 PM
1

I also have a sister who is a blonde hair, blue eye, 5'7" former cheerleader and we are twins, and yeah I can see she has an easy time getting 100+ matches and instant dates whenever she wants. But she's still not married at 35 despite a string of boyfriends. Deadbeat -> musician fuckboi -> alcoholic -> psychopath -> emotionally unavailable -> geographically unavailable. She tried her best, and yet... That does not sound like she tried her best at all. Most men are not abusive, deadbeat or menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:24 PM
1

Only 3% of the global population died in WW2. The world was different, but you are acting like 20+% of men were dying in war when that was not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:29 AM
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Did you just suggest the problem is a lack of mass genocide via war?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:30 PM
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If they are spreading, then that means there are systematic issues creating them that needs to be addressed. But I do not expect that to ever be addressed, so you will just see it spread more and more with time. Even if you killed them all, the spread will only continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:10 PM
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??? I am not interested in frame games. Too old for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:39 PM
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If doesn’t bother me, I just find it ironic and humorous. I mean, you are literally here wasting hours of your life on here making mindless rants and empty insults then say: The real question is why does this bother you so much? Who hurt you for you to want to come to a sub full of stuff like this? Maybe you should ask yourself these questIons instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:19 PM
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Did you just randomly attack a person who is probably not even a blackpiller just for describing the black pill in one of the most whiny and childish rants of all time? Maybe you should sort out what is making you so mentally unstable and irrationally angry at a bunch of random dudes who will never care or respect your opinion at all because of your hypocrisy? Because honestly, atleast they would have a decent sounding excuse because of how hopeless it looks to them. But what justifies your path…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:01 PM
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No, Mgtow and trp are often even at odds with each other. PUA, mgtow, trp, black pillers, incels, tradcons, MRA, etc are all completely different and often hate each other. You can even see differing groups fight each other here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:47 PM
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You literally cherry picked less then 10 different posts in a forum with ten of thousands of posts to say all men here say x all the time…if anyone actually said any of that at all as you also provided no sources. I am just matching the effort you already gave lol. You even just wrote off the studies that you already know about as “surface level” (your empty opinion be hard data). Like cmon, are you worth the amount of respect you are demanding when you cannot even bother yourself? I know I am r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:53 PM
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No, it does. There is just no point in really search for data for you. You would just not even read any of it and just write it off. Even if you could not find a way to write it off, you would just pretend you did not see any of it tomorrow. I mean, this is reddit. Expecting someone to spend hours to look up data they already know is true for some random person who will not even bother to debate honestly just will not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:11 PM
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Every piece of data that I ever saw here over the years. Off the top of my head, the okcupid study shows men are realistic and women are not. As do studies for tinder and bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:20 PM
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It is because women are entitled to sex and relationships. So women use that as a manipulation tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:19 PM
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Dude, there are millions of posts here, cherry picking a few random posts (assuming you are lying), means Jack shit. Which is why you are listing two opposing opinions said by two completely different men and framing it like they were said by the same man. All this really shows is you see men on this sub as one single entity instead of different people. All the data we have points to men having realistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:18 PM
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Misandry has been always the norm here. Use to be way worse too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:31 PM
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That is because “true” equality cannot exist as there is not even a singular absolute definition of what equality is. Instead biased people will just do what they believe is most equal which will always be riddled with hypocrisy towards there benefit for we are by design hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:13 PM
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The future.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:11 PM
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No, that is not true. Tons of good men/women get with bad men/women all the time. Always assuming that the man/woman is on the same level as the other is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:47 PM
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Not to mention a lot of things people think are the "bare minimum" are not the bare minimum at all and much more rare then they think. People just do not see all the unattractive people that would love to date them. Which is fair, most people do not want someone they deem unattractive, much older then them, wear certain clothing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:44 PM
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The problem is you are not as hot as an 18 year old model.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:40 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:19 AM
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Well, the underlying problem is men do not become victims, they become and are treated like statistics. To the poor men are punished for trying to get help. My posts on the subject are often downvoted or mocked for the same reason. Even the posts I made here has people pulling the “you are not entitled” and other manipulative arguments to avoid directly engaging me for that reason. We just always try to dehumanize men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:18 AM
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And that is the solution now. Educate women that men are human that have feelings and do not exist to serve them like objects. They cry, get insecure, etc and that is okay. Educate them on how these pressures cause men to kill themselves and lead to toxic outlooks of life. How unrealistic it is to demand a man who makes six figures, six foot tall and has a six pack. Like an average chubby guy demanding a anorexically skinny model with a natural H cup who is a virgin. Educate them on how unrealis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:31 PM
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Half the time they are arguing with some imaginary person who is not even saying what you are saying. Usually trying to make it personal but not sound like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:17 PM
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Women want and only treat men well who are two times better then them. In response, men want women who are half as valuable as them so they can get a girl that loves and respects them. Somehow this is men’s fault for literally trying to give women what they want to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:14 PM
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How did we fix this same exact issue when it came to unrealistic standards for women in the 90s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:10 PM
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Yep. Women in there 30s can date just fine…with significantly less valuable men and needing to bring more to the table. A 40-70 year old man will be happy to date a 30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:09 PM
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They are just too privileged to see it. Women are entitled to what they want, men actually have to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:07 PM
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You are right, fixing unfairness for one group and not another is an example of life being fair. But it also is prove that “life is unfair” is not an argument and anyone who uses it should be ignored as you are a hypocrite who will use said “life is unfair argument only when it favors your argument. Or like the part of my argument you ignored: Life is unfair until that unfairness does not benefit women, then we must make it fair at others expense. In order to believe “life is unfair” is a valid …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:03 PM
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Life is unfair until that unfairness does not benefit women, then we must make it fair at others expense. Women have to meet unrealistic expectations for men in the 90s? That needed to be changed. Men need to meet unrealistic expectations for women now? To bad, life is unfair lol. Could go on. But to use “life is not fair” in a world that is about fighting unfairness for the sake of equality is bs. Let’s be real, you just feel entitled to men accepting the bs. Men have every right to complain an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:26 PM
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Thank you for just agreeing with my point and proving me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:28 PM
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So you’re bitter that you don’t sleep with virgin teens. Got it. Quote me where I said that directly. Otherwise you are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:26 PM
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This advice has the same energy as ‘if don’t want to be poor just get a job that pays more” Because that is good advice. Either do that or you WILL stay poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:30 PM
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Well ofc you can find 12 posts here, there are probably a million posts here. I could find 12 posts of women saying they love criminals, does that mean all the women here keep posting about loving criminals. T
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:26 PM
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Except men here do not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:53 PM
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I did not attack you, I asked a question. Why do you think men cheat when most men do not? The only conclusion I think of is you surround yourself with that type of man. Like if a dude thinks all women are crazy, then that means he has a thing for crazy chicks. And I am personally attacked all the time here. Nobody really cares then anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:00 PM
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What men? The men you personally date? Because most men do not cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:52 PM
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No, you can do some things to mitigate it. Just marry a good partner who is less likely to cheat. Marry a hot dude who treats everyone else like ass and he will eventually do the same to you. Just like everything else. Can you prevent someone else from doing something stupid and causing you to get in an accident? No, but you can mitigate the risk by taking the proper precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:51 PM
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You are thinking of this the wrong way. Men who did not choose to be horrible people and women who did not mate with said horrible men to maximize success would lose and be bred out. So ofc we would evolve and end up here. Now we are stuck because of the prisoners dilemma. We technically could end all the bullshit (including other shitty things about humanity), but that would require a level of acceptance and cooperation that probably will never happen because men who choose not to be toxic and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:48 PM
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It is because of intersexual selection. Men fight to breed as much as possible. So men who are toxic, aggressive, stronger, etc. Women on the other hand are then most successful for breeding with said toxic men while making them take accountability for it. This would naturally result in men oppressing women as those that wouldn’t do it (or the children of women who did not prefer men who would oppress me) would lose the mating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:23 PM
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Women want freedom from accountability and responsibility They want a dude who will do horrible things to get them what they want to pretend they are good. They do no even care if that man is a rapist, murder or even kills there family. Then when the eyes fall on them, they cry oppression and victimhood to dodge responsibility. Women even hint at this all the time ex: https://www.tiktok.com/@momo_obrien/video/7302155354077433094?lang=en Ofc women will say that this is “not all women” and shit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 12:18 PM
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That is hilarious. I guess if women want to objectify men and shrug at anyone saying they should have better standards, more power to you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:21 AM
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Nah, being single is a better outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:54 PM
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You keep saying you do, but you keep proving you don’t. This is not about age directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:23 PM
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So you didn’t get my point at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:53 PM
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Most dudes who are going to be strong, confident, rich, high status and powerful are going to be aggressive, dominant, mean, selfish, psychopathic, etc. Is what I said. And if you think the type of person more interested in being muscular is not more likely aggressive, you do not know anything about men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:40 PM
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Please explain how you got that from my point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:13 PM
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If that is what you got from my point, you missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:12 PM
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Because women treat them like shit. They do not get the hot sex, the romantic dates, often times they do not even get there kids. What kind of man would be confident so you can remain as you are, be strong so you can remain as you are, be rich so you can be comfortable, etc. But he will never get to experience the love and feelings she gave the hot man she slept with in high school. He will never get you at your peak, he will never get your deep passion, all he will get his disrespect and pain. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:21 PM
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That is the equivalent of a man wanting a virgin prude is a porn star level slut for him. Where are all the virgin Mary’s who are Angela whites for me? Why are good women so rare, I just do not get it. It does happen rarely, but usually only when someone has a change of heart at a certain point (ex: religious to atheist right before or after you get her) and has a lot of old habits and behaviors that give them the personality they want. Just unrealistic and toxic. Most dudes who are going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:24 AM
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Yep. The standards for men are still stuck in the patriarchy. So men need to be 2 to even 5 times better than her to be considered her equal. This gets even worse when you consider men are expected to become hot to take care of her when she get old and ugly, to be rich and hard working so she can be lazy, to be socially skilled so she can remain awkward, to become courageous so she can remain a coward, to become strong so she can stay weak. Then they wonder why men are not stepping up to be real…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:13 AM
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Because it is true. When it comes to shallow traits, women are waaaaay too picky (confidence, looks, status, height, social skills, preselection, etc). When it comes to important non-shallow traits (how nice he is, how loyal he is, does he treat you how you want him too, etc). Women tend to have those standards at the bare minimum. Or in other words, women need to make there standards focus on things that actually matter outside the honeymoon phase, not really lower them all that much or at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:10 AM
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Yeah, you are an over glorified slave instead of a leader. Responsibility without power/authority is slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:27 AM
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Sorry, but women are not children. Just because a dude does not want to play daddy does not mean is responsible for her toxicity, childishness or abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:38 PM
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It's going to sound controversial but the natural dynamic has always been for a man to lead while a woman follows That is impossible in the modern world. In order to lead, you need authority over the follower. A faux form of leadership is just being a sucker. Women are equal and so men are not responsible for them or their actions. It is not his job to mommy him like she is not a capable adult. Also, what do women’s sexual perversions have to do with this subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:36 PM
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Sounds more like Gen Z women would be the problem according to what you say. Women are not children, your pet or a trophy, if she is doing shitty things and has a shitty personality, that is her fault. Men should not have to be daddying there partner. Should men love themselves and respect themselves more? Sure. But reverse the genders real quick. Do you believe it is a woman’s fault for being “too passive” for her boyfriend’s abusive and toxic behaviors? Sure, she should leave and if she keeps …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:27 PM
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This is not going to work and shows that they still do not understand the problem. The standards for men in those countries are unrealistic and the incentives are just not there. Expecting men to be close to literal slaves to be a good enough man and earn enough to have a family will just cause men to burn out and seek out escapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:10 PM
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I am confused, when was the idea that good women do not exist even said in this context? The counter argument aimed at op was clearly that women of all “values” sleep with men who are hot without him bringing anything to the table. Making op wrong as they are arguing social skills matter way more then reality shows us. I pointed out how many hot and high status men can succeed regardless of there social skills by providing examples of texts hot men send out and get success with. Your argument in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:42 PM
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No, it's not. A lot of you doomer / conspiratards love to cry "wahh just world fallacy wahhh" whenever someone points out that good people do exist. Ad hominem No, if they do that, they are low value. Their value is determined by the kind of men they choose. Sleeping with felons is a low value behavior that women with psychological issues do. Just world fallacy again. If you think they are "high value" then you're the problem, that means you make excuses for bottom-tier women to justify going af…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:31 PM
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It is because women just get in the away of men’s dreams. Including success, money and women. You chase women and you end up with nothing. You chase success and you get success. Worst case scenario you can go bang sex workers that would treat you way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:16 AM
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Just world fallacy. Many women who you deem high value sleep with trash before they settle with the good old beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:43 AM
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Except women who are not trash sleep with these men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:15 AM
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At least he has data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:48 AM
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No, Red pillers actually think social skills do matter. Game and "holding frame" is one of the most important parts of there dating strategy. You just need to be attractive first according to them as you cannot negotiate it. People who have gone from hot to ugly or vice versa have an eye opening experience with how different people treat them. What made them creepy now makes them quirky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:04 AM
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No you don't, you just need to provide enough value and know how to properly negotiate for what you want. If a company cares about social skills too much, just go to another company that will be more successful because it focuses on productivity over office politics. Also, as an IT / tech worker, most are not making 200K per year. Most senior programmers and engineers make 70,000-100,000 per year. Those that pay higher are usually in areas with high costs of living or big companies that are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:58 PM
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All you need to do is look what hot men say lol. There "social skills" often peak with " I wan F U now" and "Come ovr"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:51 PM
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Hey man, the "Let me smash," "Babe, I stuc in jail again," "Can I F U?" are peak charisma lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:50 PM
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Because they do not have any standards set for them and are accepted for free. Most women are as boring and socially awkward as the men they think are undatable and creepy. They are really bad at communicating and blame men for there failure out of entitlement. But no one ever tells them the truth and they are just accepted, giving them a distorted world view. It is like how meh women think they would be Chad and slay if they were born a man instead. Or that men have it easy and are super privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:47 PM
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Women do not care about social skills either man. We just need to pretend that having a six pack makes you confident, being rich makes you smart, etc. All a man needs to do is go from fat and ugly to fit and hot (or vice versa), suddenly the traits that made him creepy are cool, quirky, fun, etc. It really is very eye opening if you ever experience it yourself. Suddenly, you being shy and awkward is cool. What is referred to as social skills, is really just the man providing value via entertainm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:41 PM
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Dude, he is posting hard data here and you do not even have an argument (a personal opinion does not count).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:34 PM
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This, really it all feeds into each other. If some or even a large number of women or men try to end the cycle, they just get fucked as aggressive men and women who have children with said aggressive men will just mate instead of them or there offspring. If something is to blame, it is our original animal roots that we were molded by. I wish we could end the bs, but that would require all of a culture to collaborate to end it. And even that happened, humans biases will probably just f it up as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:48 PM
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People have this idea that quality quality and quantity are polar opposites when they are often linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:57 PM
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They want men to think being the beta bux is a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:53 PM
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That happens all the time here, forum has a very strong blue pilled bias (not as bad as it use to be tbf). They allow blue pillers to use personal attacks, make circle jerk threads, etc all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:34 PM
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This, shocked how long it took to find this post. Obviously people become obsessive and fall in love (especially when young and inexperienced), that often makes it difficult for them to want to give up (especially if they have been building up feelings for years). Those who have unhealthy attachment styles particularly struggle at times accepting the no. Especially in western cultures where we overhype “love at first sight” and romantic lust to the point that it is often sold as the meaning in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:29 PM
2

Do doctors suffer the ptsd, pain, suffering that there patients experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:13 PM
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Then we should have all female units sent to almost certain death like they do for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:11 PM
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Do they get drafted to fight in the front lines against there will?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:40 PM
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Feminism literally protects rapists and abusers if they are women and distorts data on rape to hurt male rape victims. They are literally an obvious women supremacy moment. Even there complaints about beauty standards are about how they need to go to extremes to fake they are genetically equal to men significantly better then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:38 PM
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Are Ukraine women forced to fight against there will?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:35 PM
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Aka “All is fair in love and war…unless it is for my detriment or benefit to be against it, then it is not fair and needs to be changed.” I think “you are not entitled” arguments are the perfect example of what you mean. As soon as the roles reverse, suddenly “you are not entitled” is no longer a good argument. People just use word spaghetti to try to hamster some rationalization to make it sound sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:34 PM
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There is no such thing as a loser or a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:04 PM
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Women literally can rape men and brag about it. Women can blatantly lie and get away with it even when caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:31 AM
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Nice counterargument bro. You sure showed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:21 PM
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Then women should stop having kids with men who do not want kids or would make trash fathers. If a dude does not want to be a father, he is not going to be a father. The whole reason abortion was made legal was because they did not want women who did not want to be mothers to be mothers for it would significantly increase crime rates because they would not properly mother there children. They would abuse them, neglect them, abandon them, etc. Children are not entitled to fathers, women are not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:58 PM
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That is because all mothers would be considered deadbeats. Even if you are an amazing stay at home dad, you are still considered a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:53 PM
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Men make up 80% of suicide victims, 80% of homelessness, we are required to die for our country if needed, we are held to unrealistic expectations and standards, we are not allowed to be who we are and have to hide our emotions, men make up approximately 50% of rape victims with women being as rapey as men…but male rape victims are not recognized, despite the fact that 50% of domestic violence victims are male and 80% of unreciprocated domestic violence is instigated by women, women receive 60+%…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:20 PM
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So like all other oppressed groups do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:09 PM
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No, nobody is entitled to anything. We are not entitled to life, agency, freedom, or anything. It just is not a good argument to use for it justifies everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:06 PM
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You would be amazed at the obvious lies people say here and how many people support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:02 PM
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No, you have already shown yourself as intellectually dishonest person by putting words in my mouth. You clearly have no interest in understanding my statement. Nobody who uses the manipulative “so you are saying we are lobsters” style arguments is worth respecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:09 PM
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And I told you that is not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:05 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:04 PM
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so do you think pointing out misogyny in someone’s worldview is the same as mindlessly worshipping females?? Put words in my mouth. thats what i derive from your statement. makes it seem pointless to discuss male female relationships at all, if even just pointing out misogyny is simping Then make an opinion on said argument I clearly never made to write off my actual argument. Sounds legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:01 PM
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It is more that it does not help men for therapy is about address the symptoms and not the causes. Telling men who do not meet women’s sexist and unrealistic standards that they need therapy will never help them. The only two things that will help them are meeting women’s standards so they can get sex, change the system so women’s standards go down or get them to quit entirely. Women are entitled to everything for free and are anti-responsibility. So therapy works for them. They get a paid for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:58 PM
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It seems op is projecting. He does not understand the red pill at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:53 PM
0

Being asexual does not mean you are aroused by personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:47 PM
3

Op is just mad that trp is right and is trying to write it off by framing it as evil. Anything that is not mindlessly worshiping stinky female monkey ass as goddesses is regarded as misogyny. The truth is women suck for they are just stinky animals and that is just a fact. Everyone is already okay with the reality that men suck for they are just stinky animals. But for some reason we have to pretend women are not stinky animals because some men feel insecure about how much they are wasting on tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:52 PM
1

What a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:46 PM
1

It is just the modern way for hipsters to virtue signal that they are special by again pretending it is about “personality” and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:44 PM
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All these buzzwords are about trying to pretend there sexual attraction is special and that it is something deeper than it really is. When really it is about raw animal bullshit like always. No different then why we thought the earth was the center of the universe, why humans are the “chosen ones” by some mythical god, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:43 PM
-1

More like bs from women to be pretend it all about “teh personality” again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:41 PM
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This is exactly why men get angry at women. You always try to simplify it down to “you just feel entitled to sex” in some form. Women get preferable treatment in all forms? Men discriminated against in all forms? Unrealistic, unhealthy expectations placed on men? Women being allowed to horrible people and not allowed to be called out? Etc, etc. Equals it is only about sex. Misandry does give women a ton of privileges and power when it comes to sex, relationships and having children. So ofc it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:17 PM
1

I agree actually. I was more or less showing how stupid “you are not entitled” is as an argument. Everyone is entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:10 PM
1

Yes, dating sucks. No, it is not the solution to loneliness. It just results in you being more lonely. The solution to lonely men’s problems is male companionship and male spaces. It really is lacking these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:08 PM
1

Better then being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:04 PM
1

Everyone cares for the quality of options declines as people quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:59 AM
1

Dang, you must be salty that I am right if that is the best counter argument you could make.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:58 AM
1

Where did I mention anything about a person with no work experience being a good worker? Pretty off topic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:56 AM
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What do you mean examples? Examples of what? All the friendships I had with women ended because one of us caught feelings except one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:24 PM
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Hence the lol. I just find it hilarious. It is very important to just ignore women and live the life you want. The only issues is simps who take action against you because milady is mad that she is not entitled to what she wants from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:23 PM
1

If you are not a simp, you would not bother being friends with women to begin with/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:21 PM
1

True. I just find women’s standards hilarious. They want an ice cube that cools and heats them up. So no matter what you do, you need to change something. So the solution is not to care. Then they get mad when they do not care lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:20 PM
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Always the funniest response. People go from “you are not entitled to anything lololol” to being mad and entitled that you are quitting. It is like a toxic boss who keeps going “do not like it, there is the door.” And then the employee goes “okay” and walks out the door. Where did all the good workers go? They all just so lazy and hate work. Humans morality boils down to “All is fair in love and wear…unless it is to my detriment, then that is not fair and things must change to be entitled to wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:32 PM
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No, nothing is wrong with him. Women are not a prize and that mentality is toxic. What he needs to do is stop valuing women until he no longer cares. Aka love himself and look at women who do not value him as not worth his time. Then he will end up having the confidence and have no problem with rejection. Then women get mad that he is toxic and does not treat her well lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:30 PM
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At that point you end up not even caring about her enough to even bother to begin with lol. Then women complain where all the good men went.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:27 PM
1

That is a new one. Refusing to simp for women means I am a simp. Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:26 PM
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If he was a Chad, he would still have a ton of options. Nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:14 PM
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Sounds like he was not a Chad then or is not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:31 AM
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Heaven forbid someone grow feelings for someone else. It always has to be men being entitled to sex or being good useful doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:31 AM
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If you think women do not treat men differently, then I am done for I know you are not being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:29 AM
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Aka it is a scam if you are doing it to get a woman. Doing it for yourself though makes it worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:49 PM
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Yes, seen it happen all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:48 PM
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. Aka it is a scam. Men are told to do all this improvement to get X, they do it an then get told "you are not entitled to anything lol." Trying to take it to the extreme just makes it more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:48 PM
1

“Just maintain our standards bro” Ah yes, the good old “just x bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:12 PM
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Y’all can throw all the insults you want. But nobody can prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:38 PM
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Women think they understand men better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:31 PM
1

Are you for real? The only people saying it's his fault are men, and only a small number of men anyways. Most people are against that shit. Dude, I was raped as a child. Male victims are heavily oppressed. So, yes I am for real. And no, men are statistically raped as much as women…and women rape just as much. Male victims are just mostly hidden under “forced to penetrate” and most data hides female rapists under the “person” category. I don't feel attacked by the system for being a man. I ignore…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:29 PM
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Why do women treat men and women differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:23 PM
2

Sounds dumb and a source of endless drama. Why be friends with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:22 PM
5

Exactly why dudes leave when they realize they are being friend zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:13 PM
4

Exactly, you get the benefits while having to give anything in exchange. He is your free emotional tampon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:13 PM
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I always find it funny how a man wanting to sleep with you means he only wants to sleep with you. If he became your friend, there is zero to no chance that he only wanted sex. Otherwise he would not bother being your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:29 PM
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Because she is at risk of losing the benefits he gives for free. Getting the benefits of a relationship without needing to give anything back is why women love friendzoning men to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:27 PM
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Or men should just go Mgtow and live an amazing life instead. And men are not being radicalized, they are reacting to a world that hates them. Sometimes to extreme levels because the hate they experienced was extreme. Women suck because they are just people who are given undeserved power with men being forced to take responsibility for it. And power without responsibility corrupts them. Ex: It is her her body, her choice. But we hold men accountable for her poor mating choices. Like a bad employ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:51 AM
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Gambling like that is not worth it. Especially since the reward is not a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:38 AM
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That and humans are anti-responsibility and it is too late to really fix a lot of people’s issues. Instead we have to damage control as best we can. Way easier to write a traumatized man off with “get therapy bro” then admit that bullying screwed him up, his parents failed him, society failed him or whatever is the actual problem and give the real fixes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:08 PM
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In what year was divorced changed to allow women to leave marriages? Was it in the 2000s? 1990s?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:48 PM
3

So if I tell someone advice to wash there ass to not stink? It doesn't apply to everyone? Let's be real here. Actually yes, there are probably certain instances to not wash your ass to not stink. Like if you just get surgery in the area.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:45 PM
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Nothing works for everyone. And trp was the one that came up with the 80/20 rule initially. With the goal to be in the top 20% via self improvement. It definitely does not work for every man. Those it does not work for leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:26 PM
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It is both. Everyone has a limit to what they can do. Believing effort has no impact at all is wrong, but so is believing effort is everything. If you have the potential to enter the top 20%, trp works. Otherwise it doesn’t. And a lot of the actions you need to take are about getting better looks, status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:16 PM
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I understand the sentiment, but as an individual man there is nothing you can do but quit. It just is not worth it. So the game is lose-lose until things are fixed (ex: family courts, unrealistic standards, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:02 PM
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It is a mix of that and humans desire to be special. Instead of relationships being about personality, love, etc it is really about eugenics and shallow mating preferences. So it makes those that have successful relationships not special anymore. And humans hate not being special or love not being special. The truth is many men will always he undatable because of biology. Women will only date 30-80 percent of men for the utility it gives them. While the remaining percent is who women really want…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:15 PM
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This. Humans have and always will struggle to accept the truth because of their egos. They rely on plausible deniability and such to protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:09 PM
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I am confused by your question, alphas and betas do not have specific personality traits assigned to each. Af/bb is about how women see them, women’s mating strategy. An AF is someone women sleep with for they see him as having a lot of genetic value, while a beta has a lot of value in terms of the utility he provides. An Alpha bux would provide both. I know alphas who are pussies and betas that are confident leaders. While celebrities and online personas are fake, so they cannot be used to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:51 PM
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I am used to it lol. I have had people hoping for my death here for speaking too many facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:04 PM
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The issue is that the average man can only be Chad if Chad decides not to try at all. The moment he tries, the moment the average man has zero chance. Why? Because hypergamy is relative. They want a top 20% of man. That is why pre-social media it was way eaiser to be Chad. You just needed to be in the top 20% of the men she knew personally. Which is really easy as there was always one girl that did not know many men and you would be the best she has ever seen. Now women see men throughout the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:40 PM
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Beta bux just means a dude who has lots of value as a long term partner and father, but is missing the genetics or status to be the alpha fux who women get tingles for. A beta bux is not necessarily weak, unconfident, out of shape, etc. They often end up as such because of how they are treated. A beta who acts like an alpha is mocked, belittled and treated like shit until he becomes a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:34 PM
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Aka the problem is more that men are filling there traditional gender roles less and less. Starting with third wave feminism (technically before this, but this is when it started to really grow like never before), women basically quit filling there gender role completely but we still all felt entitled to men filling there role. Which worked for a bit, but men are now being expected to be 5 times as valuable as there grandfathers to be worthy of women 20 times worse. So men have become increasing…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:07 PM
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A man who is average but treats you well. Earns 30,000-70,000, slightly chubby, nothing special about him, etc. Wanting the equivalent of a model is way beyond wanting a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:33 AM
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Your entire last paragraph makes me think that you are mad that I am right. To the point you are going on this weird rant that is completely irrelevant and trying to tell me to shut up so you can pretend that I am wrong. Women can get good men and are accepted for free. Women wanting to use artificial enhancements to deal with their insecurities and try to fuck Chads is her selfish choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:31 AM
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When did I say I paid pitched myself as a resource?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:18 AM
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Why is the idea that many men are better off and happier without women react such a strong emotional response from you? The fact is women ain’t shit, they are just people. They are not some prize worth fighting for, chasing or improving yourself for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:18 AM
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Objectifying is about sex, being a provider is a relationship structure. lol. Objectifying is objectifying. Using someone for sex is just as bad as using someone as a provider. Just because one benefits you does not mean it is not objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:54 AM
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Women don’t get access to good options without actually improving. No, they get tons of good options. Just not Chad level. Which you will show in your next point. Being a fat woman will get you men at the bottom of the barrel while being skinny and fit allows you to be in the same room as attractive and rich men. So basically, you do the bare minimum (just being normal weight) and you get access to top 20% men. Which is exactly my point. With that said, women will always have more options so why…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:34 PM
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You just blamed men for women objectifying us lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:29 PM
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Just be funny bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:49 PM
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Just be rich and famous bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:34 PM
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Some of the replies even prove me right. Like one person noting that top 10% men can land attractive women, so women are all pressured to be hot to try to get that top 10% man. Like no shit lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:07 PM
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Men absolutely do care. Physical appearance matters exponentially more for women than men. Ugly but successful men land supermodel wives all the time (see Jay-Z, Luke Combs, Seal, etc.), not just celebrities but more attainable positions too. I’ve seen loads of ugly doctors with gorgeous wives. So men in the top 10% (this includes doctors, software developers, etc) are getting women who are attractive? No shit. You are literally proving what I just said. That women strive to be attractive to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:05 PM
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Oh no, men are going to have lower T levels. Maybe you should focus on fixing all the shit so mgtow is not significantly better then dating and marriage? Then men will stop going mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:01 PM
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I also said: We are expected to work hard for 5+ years (otherwise we get mocked, belittled or isolated) to be worthy of being a girls retirement plan after she is done with her fun. The girl in question is as bad as we were before any self-improvement and it is expected that as soon as we marry her it is okay for her to get fat and lazy. Lie more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:00 PM
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The video is over 50 minutes long from some random dude whose opinion matters as much as mine. If your post took me 50 minutes to read, you bet I am not going to waste my time reading it. Same in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:58 PM
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Also, people are free to judge you for your pickiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:39 PM
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Why would I care to listen to some random dude on YouTube?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:35 PM
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I see, am I them? Are men people of one single entity to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:33 PM
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Why do you think beauty treatments are a billion dollar industry? Why do you think diets and even eating disorders are so common? Why does the sterotype of girls taking ages to get ready exist? To deal with there insecurities, play women’s status games and/or go after Chad. Which is not men’s fault at all and it is all about her. If a woman wants a good average man, she does not even need to do anything. And most women do not pretty themselves up for their husband on a daily basis for this reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:43 PM
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Women have to self improve too - work out to stay slim, put on expensive make-up everyday, wear the perfect outfit everyday, study hard in school and find a well paying job. No one finds a dumb and fat woman attractive, anf No, they do not. Women can get accepted while doing zero self improvement. And tons of men find fat and dumb women attractive…including men who are skinny and smarter then her. In the context of dating, men often do not even care about a lot of that. She does that more for he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:17 PM
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Assuming that this all boils down to men feeling entitled to sex is exactly the type of misandry I am talking about it. That you for being a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:12 PM
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It is what misandrist gaslighters do. First they tell you the problem is exclusively your personality when you are ugly, fat, poor, etc. Looks do not matter at all silly. Then you become hot, rich, etc and they tell you “well ofc looks matter. Personality matters too so we can keep pretending women are not shallow.” Anything to pretend women are prizes and men are tools that need to become the equivalent of male models in some form to be worthy of the average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:29 AM
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It is at that point where you go mgtow and love yourself instead. Fuck more chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:25 AM
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It is always funny how women and society ignore how there misandry and discrimination against men ultimately makes them toxic and have bad opinions about them. We are expected to work hard for 5+ years (otherwise we get mocked, belittled or isolated) to be worthy of being a girls retirement plan after she is done with her fun. The girl in question is as bad as we were before any self-improvement and it is expected that as soon as we marry her it is okay for her to get fat and lazy. Then we look …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:24 AM
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That is anti-reality, women have a maximum peak that they can realistically reach. Many professional female athletes can never bench press 150 lbs. And studies indicate that the max potential of the average woman is way lower then you are implying.. Believing that some 5 ft tall woman can bench press 200 pounds if they wanted to is absurd. Ex: https://bodyrecomposition.com/women/womens-maximum-muscular-potential#:~:text=The%201.84%20lb%2Finch%20value,not%20even%20reach%20that%20level.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:52 PM
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Bigots do not want to solve problems, they want to hurt and oppress the group they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:20 PM
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The balance of the sexes might be a benefit to natures systems we don't fully understand and like the dinosaurs, half of the women will spontaneously mutate into males. Now deemed harmful to society, the new males are culled to protect the women from violence I have heard this theory before, that if there is a shortage of men, a large number of women would transform into men as a fail safe. Because men are the ones who die first because they are the ones expected to do shit, men would not transf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:18 PM
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This entire thread is filled with pure hatred. “Purple pilled” people are saying dumb shit “if men just disappeared women would just be fine” lol. Fuck, if all of women disappeared there would be mass chaos, suicides and shit. Most women would be dead in a few months. I just cannot believe how insane the arguments here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:03 PM
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It is rare because only a few can. Exceptions prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:53 PM
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No, that is unrealistic and naive. If men just disappeared tomorrow, most women would die in a few months. The few that remain would regress massively. It would be like the season of lost where women would be placed on island. Most women would do nothing and they would not even get essentials like water. But unlike the show, there would be no help at all. They would just die of thirst. It takes years for an apprentice to get knowledgeable enough to be a journeymen. And you think that women will …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:52 PM
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It does suck for both men and women. Which is why the other option is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:41 AM
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In what way do you want proof? Let’s take rape. Feminists fought to change the definition of rape so they can pretend that it is a gendered issue. This results in several outcomes that ultimately protect rapists and oppress rape victims. Take the UK, the law was changed so only people born with a penis can be considered rapists. Or in the USA, where the CDC data hides over 80% of male rape victims in the “forced to penetrate” category that is not considered rape. They also have three categories …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:40 AM
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It is because feminism is a gender supremacy group. Where women believe they are owed everything for free and men are the devil that must be purged if they do not comply. They even do things like protect rapists, protect abusers, distort data, oppress male victims, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:33 AM
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Most cannot do anything about balding. Rogain only works on some people, hair transplants only work if you are balding slowly enough to have enough hair to properly cover your head answers propecia has bad side effects in many cases. And women bald too, we just accept women who are balding way more in every way. Most even get away with doing nothing as men only care when it gets to extreme levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:30 AM
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We should obviously start pushing for women to be more accepting of men as humans instead of objects that need to meet there standards. The only way dating works with women’s unrealistic standards is to indirectly force women to marry lower value men via dependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:25 AM
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This. And it just shows men are just more fake and accepting than women are really. Then we pretend the opposite is actually true. The average woman is very sexist, racist and ableist. We just try really hard to cover it up. They only see men as tools that exist to serve them. So when a man does not want to date fat women and complains about how unfair women’s standards are, he is a sexist pig even if he is the hottest man alive and the only options he has are ugly bums. But if a woman raped a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:23 AM
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Having the ability to gain more muscle mass is not the same as being able to be as strong as men and handle physically intense tasks like men can. It is scientifically proven that men are stronger than women. And it is also statistically proven that women in the trades are very, very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:17 AM
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As have I and all the female “roughnecks” are given the easier jobs because they cannot handle the more physically intense tasks. And they are super rare…and you would know that. Even statistically that is the case. Even in computer science, women are super rare because most women cannot handle the work. Companies are desperate to hire women to meet quotas and they cannot get enough. Even the matriarchies that do exist have most of the women still refusing to do the hard labor. I mean, to hate m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:05 AM
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…have you seen what it is like to work on a oil rig? As an electrician? No, most women could not become physically strong enough to do those jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:20 PM
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That would be a utopia for earth. The whole world would be like a nature paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:13 PM
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It is pretty obvious if you think about it. A relationship with even one girl is super costly in time, energy and money. Add 3 kids and suddenly you already have no free time at all unless you sacrifice other import things (like sleep, neglect your wife, let the house get dirty, neglect one of your children, physical health, etc). That is why dad bods are a thing and why they never have time for hobbies and friends anymore. It is really a lot of thankless work. Which is why lots of old men recom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:09 PM
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Most men here do not understand what relationships are actually like. They think it is porn level sex and then they go off and live their life, or that it is like the new relationship high all the time. Sex is actually only a small part of a relationship. And I say this as some who is very red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:03 PM
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I could see some men like having 2 wives, but most of the time they only like it temporarily to get some sexual satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:59 PM
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Why in the world is this such a common conclusion that comes up? Harems are overrated, most societies that allow harems only have a minority of men that actually want them. The only exception is dark triad men who have access to the money and provisions taken from a lot of other men indirectly (kings, the rich, etc). Where they can use the resources, labor, etc of other men to help them raise children. They usually have butlers, maids and such…and they are often not even the father of many of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:09 PM
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Yeah. Many people often do not even look that buff no matter how much they lift. And many people look incredibly buff and have incredible metabolisms no matter what they do. My neighbor is a Chad. He ate six pizzas and never gained any weight. He never really worked out and was always attractive. He did play in sports, that is mostly because he was naturally gifted at it. He never really worked hard at it and fell off as soon as he reaches the college level when it is mostly Chad vs Chad. Black …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 12:38 PM
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What does that have to do with what I said? Single men are powerful for they have no attachments, so you cannot control them in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:57 AM
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No, because I am speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:55 AM
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Most people are boring, the problem is we pretend women are more interesting then they really are and men need to be awesome to be worthy of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:14 AM
1

I can agree with that. I personally hate 90% of humans overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:11 AM
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I am married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:09 AM
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They never concede any point. Even if you provide facts and data, they will just ask for studies for it in the next thread hoping the next poster not bother or is worse at arguing. Take data on how rapey women are and how many men are actually raped. You can literally post CDC data proving men are the majority of rape victims…and then in the very next thread they will pretend only men rape at all again and that only men are dangerous. At best they pretend they always agreed with you in the next …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:48 PM
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Because it is black and white. If she finds you attractive, she responds neutrally or positively. Otherwise you are creepy no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:42 PM
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No, it is reality. Either proof me wrong or quit wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:39 PM
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You literally passively attacked me while feigning kindness. Perhaps your husband is attracted to toxic women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:37 PM
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It is a half truth. Ofc men who are kind/nice will try to show off their kindness/niceness to a girl they are trying to woo. Just like a Chad will show off his confidence, car, status, etc. Everyone tries to show there best traits when trying to date someone. Women do it too. I guess women who put more work into themselves for a crush or date “just want sex, his money, etc” too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:35 PM
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I am married and in a open marriage. When I was kind and sweet, women hated me for being too nice. They told me this, I was supposed to wait until women get bored of toxic men and want a good man to raise her children with. My childhood crush, fucked a bunch of losers who laughed at how dumb she was. She treated men who loved her and respected her like trash. She needed to go to extremes to justify and hurt good men just so she did not look like a horrible person. You probably did the same if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:03 PM
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Women? Supportive emotionally? BS, men are action figures to women. Women are the equivalent of “nice guys” when it comes to being supportive, expect nice guys can be actually kind sometimes. Which is why men say that it is better to better to talk to a tree than any women. The tree will actually listen far better then the women is, the tree will not run away or get the ick when you cry that your dog died, the tree will not gossip and abandon you just because you can no longer afford to give her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:54 PM
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Men who quit the mating game are treated the same as terrorists are because of how powerful they are. Most men have been brainwashed to believe women are the purpose in life, when they are the cause of all there misery. Which is why so many men around the world are starting to quit the mating game. Equality really means “I have to work 5 times harder to be worthy of the woman who is equal to me right now” because we are still held to patriarchal standards. Like enough to own a home to be worthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:47 PM
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Because women are not held to unrealistic expectations like men are. Most women claiming that men need to be better to be worthy of them are as flawed and bad as the men she is telling to improve before they do any form of self improvement/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:42 PM
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Toxic masculinity means anything that gets in the way of men not being useful to women. So men who abused, rape women? Toxic masculinity. Men who fight a giant women abusing and raping men? Toxic masculinity. Men who do things that make them less useful to women (Ex: hobbies that do not produce value, men being feminine and happy, etc)? Toxic masculinity. That is all there is to it. Just like how any man who is not hot, rich and famous is actually a terrible person while every man who is hot, ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:41 PM
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Because simps are the worst. Women know they are not perfect and many are more willing to listen to critical views of them. While blue pilled men just think it will help them get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:46 PM
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That is not entitlement though. That is just anger at the slow realization they were lied to, betrayed. So they put hope and a ton of effort into a lie while not putting effort into the truth for they were told that is the lie. It is like being told to run the wrong way in the race by everyone. And then when he loses, he gets mad that the winner won for he ran the wrong way. He did everything right according to everyone…and now they all abandoned him. The audience laughs at him and mocks him for…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:36 PM
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Because misandry. The only thing they think men want is sex. They think the only reason a man wants to date them is sex. They even do not realize sex is about more then just sex most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:24 PM
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Because it is not a double standard, it is misandry. Basically men have to accept everything without any complaints or they are mocked with insults like gay, incel, pussy, retard, autistic, etc. It does not matter how unreasonable the expectations is, it does not matter how abusive it is, does not matter how painful it is, does not matter how unfair it is, etc. Because men are not human and until men realize it, it will just all get more stupid with each passing generation for there is no reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:22 PM
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And that is how you end up with toxic relationships. Secure and healthy men will not go to extremes like insecure and unhealthy men will. “If he wanted to he would” is low EQ behavior and this is easily seen by the drizzle drizzle soft era parody videos. The best you would get is a slave that does not respect himself (aka the equivalent of a man demanding a bangmaid), which perhaps is what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:27 AM
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Funny how the legitimate nice, honest and sweet men always get passed over until they stop being nice, honest and sweet though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:21 AM
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No, that is not true. A married good man will have more sex with his wife, because women will never sleep with a good man outside of marriage. His wife would still have given the most and hottest sex to the bad boys she dated before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:19 AM
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From the post I linked: This is a 2012 research paper using data from the U. S. Census Bureau's nationally representative National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions. Within the sample of 43,000 adults, of those who affirmed they "forced somebody to have sex against their will", 43.6% were women and 56.4% were men. > Meaning, almost half of total rapists are women. You are such a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:07 AM
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No, that is a lie. The majority of women on men rape is hidden under the “forced to penetrate” section. Which is usually hidden under “person” category (ex: CDC 2010-2012 data), hidden in small text or just not reported. Here is a link to a now deleted post in this forum with a bunch of leaks showing how many women actually rape men (including the child posts): https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/o6r8ly/comment/h2umefi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&u…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:18 PM
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Statistically, women and men…with the majority being women. No reason to really think about this at all. Just like how women are raped by men and women, with the majority being men ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:37 PM
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Because both genders are at war with one another. They want what they want from the other side while giving as little in exchange. So it is constant war until some peace treaty is reached like traditional monogamy, then it happened all over again after several generations. “All is fair in love and war…unless it is not for my benefit or to my detriment, then we need fairness and I am entitled to what I want because that is what is morally good.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:32 PM
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Your mentality is the problem. You are pretending that women are not part of the problem when they are arguably the primary instigators of it all. The reason men perpetuate toxicity because women reap the benefits of said toxicity. Women are just as rapey, just as abusive and do all awful things men do. Men are raped just as much, abused just as much and men are just as likely to be victims of everything as women are…often more. And this is even seen the data we have. You can even Google “forced…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:26 PM
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Is it even denial? Even ones more accepted (ex: male suicide and homelessness) are treated as fun facts. Most of the funding in these areas still go to women. We treat men like objects, so male victims are instead statistics. At best they are used to explain where all the good men have gone and end it off by saying men need to stop being pussies and man up some more. I mean, by every metric men are the most oppressed group in western cultures at this point. Which is why incel is the new gay. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:38 AM
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They have to pretend it is not happening at this point. If they admitted the truth, then they would have to admit they are as bad a kkk members for the past 30+ years. They would have to look at what they hate and admit that they are the real problem. It is why bigots rarely ever change or admit the truth. Instead a new generation comes in and fixes things for young men and women who I frequently joke that we are all going to see young men like us getting treated well and as we deserved on our d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:32 AM
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Why do you think they can atone? The damage is far more severe than most think, the only thing that stops mass violence is the fact most men are moral and good people. Just look up forced to penetrate statistics as an example. Men are the secret majority of rape victims, but we just let their lives be ruined on silence. The mass bullying, discrimination, abuse, etc have caused decades upon decades of damage to men. Just look how fucked up many older men are. We need to pretend the bitter, mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:19 AM
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Correction. If you are not an action figure. Equality is one sided. So men are still objectified and exploited as women were in the past. Once you realize men are raped just as much as women, male victims are treated like statistics, women’s standards are just as toxic as men’s were in the 90s, that society keeps lying and distorting the truth to make women look way better and men way worse, etc you realize just how bs it all is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 AM
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No, it means exactly what I said. Being prudish and selective is what men want. They want a girl to fuck him exclusively. A girl who drops her pants for casual sex is low value. And no matter how salty you get and word spaghetti salad you make, that is not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:36 PM
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Selectively means not dropping your pants for Chad and only going for good marriage partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:08 PM
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Because sex and relationships is about babies. And so a woman who sleeps around is a bad investment, especially if you need to give more than other men that came before them. Men want women who sleep with them like crazy, but do not sleep with other men. Women do something similar, they want men who are horrible people to be as nice to them as possible for that is what benefits them the most. He will maximize extraction from others and the world, she in turn gets maximum extraction from him. Bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:07 PM
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You are just one women, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:41 PM
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No, you are explaining your dating preferences and trying to value others based on how useful they are to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:30 AM
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Ok, why does your personal dating choices matter here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:07 AM
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No, insecurity just simply means you “lack confidence in something.” It does not mean that you have a “psychological flaw that you should work on.” It is okay and healthy to have insecurities and there is nothing wrong with it. Locking your door at night to protect yourself from burglars is insecurity, protecting yourself from a potential rapist is insecurity, protecting yourself from being cheated on is insecurity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:05 AM
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I do not think you know what exaggeration means
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:25 PM
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I think the bigger issue is that an exclusive preference for younger partners implies that they might be either too insecure to handle a relationship with an actual peer that has the same level of life experience or independence as they do, What is wrong with being insecure or not wanting someone with the same level of life experience? Lots of people love being providers, have a mommy/daddy kink, love teaching others. There is nothing wrong with this stuff and it does not reflect poorly on there…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:58 PM
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I would feel it is none of my business and they can live the life they want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:47 PM
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Many decisions that young people make are less optimal. It's part of growing up and learning. Then all the more reason they should be allowed to date older people. They cannot learn if they are not given a choice anyways. Also assuming all age gap relationships are a “mistake” is ageist. We can give a heads up to young people the mistakes that we made in the past and hope they stir clear of the same mistakes. Just because you dated an older guy that was trash (what you refer to as a mistake) doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:44 PM
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So dating someone older than you means you have to get impregnated? Cmon. And the damage you can get from the military can ruin the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:37 PM
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Bullshit. Unless you mean a woman who does not groom herself at all (ex: no shower).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:35 AM
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Nice goal post moving. Now that you have indirectly admitted I am right, what is your argument? That people who are extremely agreeable and humble are more likely to be doormats? That does not matter in this context at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:41 AM
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They want men to do five times the work to get women 20 times less valuable. Unless you are a Chad, you are not getting most of the benefits in dating. You will instead have to put a ton of energy, time and money into her to get some benefits here and there. And that is assuming you actually make it to the point to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:22 PM
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Why do you think they wouldn’t if they could? Women want Chad and there is less and less pressure for women to date anyone but Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:52 PM
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No, it would push men to not try at all. Women are not prizes, they are just as flawed as the men before any form of self-improvement. If men have to “earn” her like she is a trophy, then he will just go find a more fun game to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:50 PM
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Simple, it is not binary. Being humble and agreeable does not mean you can never speak your mind and have a backbone. If someone is beating you and you say no, does that mean you were never agreeable and humble? Does being humble and agreeable mean you can never have a opinion and disagree with anything? Like wtf kind of bs is this? You can be agreeable, humble, confident and have enough set-respect to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:38 PM
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I didn't say men's opinions were "invalid", I said there was no point in women trying to please these men, because there's literally nothing she can do that will actually make everyone happy. Exactly, there is no point in listening to men’s opinions because men exist that have differing opinions. Aka she should only listen to men whose opinions agree with her. Ofc you will frame it to sound better. But that is what you are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:48 PM
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Men are people, therefore all of men’s opinions are invalid because another man could possibly have another opinion? Sounds legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:41 PM
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Way to miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:39 PM
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That is a good question, what man wants to work hard to try to date entitled, spoiled adult children? Men should obviously start not dating women at all. They are strong and independent, so they do not need us anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:21 AM
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Ouf, for how many men complain about women, it sounds like EACH man has a different, conflicting complaint about them. Yeah, almost like men are people with differing wants, imagine that. It's just a continuation of "Women need to be submissive and agreeable! Don't nag!" vs "Women don't know what they want, they won't just say what they want and expect me to read their minds!" Except those are not a vs thing at all. Being humble and agreeable is not the same as being a doormat. It's just a conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:18 AM
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Why would I ever want to care to know anything about a liar and dishonest arguer like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:13 AM
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They feel entitled to that dude loving her and giving the beta treatment. When in the past they went after the dude who gave the best beta treatment first (which ironically is why alphas use to give the beta treatment lol). They feel entitled to their sextoy suddenly not being an entirely different person just because she wants him to be a good beta now for a kid he does not even want. When in the past she went after a man who was good with kids to have kids with. Men are supposed to man up and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:24 PM
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But you want men to be exactly what you want while getting jack shit in exchange. And let’s be real your dishonesty of trying to frame the argument to “men feeling entitled to sex” is exactly why he said “women are in aggregate terrible, selfish people. You only give when YOU want to. You gaslight, lie and pretend morality is about you alone. You treat it all like a dishonest negotiation. You know what fuck it. I do not want to give my girl/wife any money, treatment or anything because I do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:16 PM
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Because they are arrogant and feel entitled to the benefits beta men give for free x While women in the past respected and valued the benefits beta men give.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:21 PM
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Calling all women married “forced” to marry betas vicitms/hostages is the dumbest thing I have read here. Oh no, a woman married a non-Chad because of the benefits he gave her. Now she is sad that he is dead, must be Stockholm syndrome. Couldn’t be sad because he spent the last 40+ years treating her well and such. Couldn’t be all the happiness that he brought her. At that point, might as well say all married men have Stockholm syndrome for women are “forcing” them to marry them to give him reli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:19 PM
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I had a childhood friend who was a Chad. His personality was trash. He was an asshole who admitted he could not feel emotions, threatened to beat women for disagreeing with him, couldn’t even handle a job at McDonalds, beat his sister, gambling addict with tons of debt with a gang and much more. Women always talked about how entertaining he was, how funny he was, how confident he was when he was none of those things He used the jokes I told and shared the funny videos I gave him to make them lau…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:04 PM
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Or become obese as fuck after getting married and having the kids for she does not love her man. If she did, she would want to be in the best shape of her life for him. But she only did that for Chad or to her access to what she wanted from him (aka her real love is what he gives her).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:59 PM
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The answer is simple: women feel entitled to a man way hotter than them. If she does not get it, men are the problem for not stepping up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:57 PM
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It is funny that the average woman acts like and demands what incels want. They even cry and vent the same way. But it is suddenly not entitlement and creepy when women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:56 PM
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Aka women are chasing men 2 to 4 times better than them. Those men see these girls as easy sex and never commit for he wants his equal to commit too (which they usually commit quickly as soon as they land him). While the dudes who would commit are not good enough for they are equal to her or lower in value. Not realizing that only a man on her level or lower will commit to her because that is the only man that will find her worth committing too. Women then blame the men they want for having issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:55 PM
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Dude, tons of horrible people are successful at everything despite who he is. For men, it is more WHAT he is. Which is why self improvement is always about getting in shape, making more money, being more entertaining and getting more confident. Women do not care who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:36 PM
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The problem is he is not Chad. They need to find a way to look down upon them. Always remember, racism, ableism, sexism, etc is okay when it comes to who women want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:08 PM
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Replace autism with race, then reply to me that you still stand by what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:05 PM
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Yeah, and so are some black/latino/white/gay/whatever men/women. Does that mean anything? No. Trying to make it into something makes you rightfully a bigot. Let’s be real, op is just a misandrist and ableist here. She is probably hating herself and her condition to the point of needing to obsess over getting a “normal” person to feel more secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:04 PM
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Exactly, you did not listen to what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:14 PM
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Men are not human. So we need to sacrifice ourselves for the privilege of taking care of a woman and accepting her as a human while expecting nothing in return. They play mind games and try to gaslight you. If you think of all the posts in this forum over a year, you will clearly see it. They will say x one day, then tell you that the problem is x the next day. It is why many men come to believe that all women do is lie or “watch what they do, ignore what they say.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:05 PM
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The real answer? Hypergamy does not care. Which is okay by itself (women are free to chase who they want), but society then tries to frame women’s sexuality as holy and men need to please them because reasons. And then ontop of that they pretend women are not hypergamous and men are the ones with too high of standards to gaslight them. So they tell autistic men the problem is they do not go after autistic women to try to silence them. But autistic women want a top 20% man, but is willing to sett…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:02 PM
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Because we always have to pretend women’s sexuality is holy and men’s sexuality is evil. Women always frame some sort of untrue generalization why they refuse to date there gender bent equivalent or blame men for picking a bad partner because of his shallow traits. It usually amounts to something like “Chad has an amazing personality while my gender bent equivalent is creepy, rapey, fake, etc.” If you know them and the men they reject/date personally, you quickly understand that it is bs. My fav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:50 PM
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Post one of those non-existent studies that are supposedly not garbage. Give me one of those amazing self-reported surveys or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:24 PM
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So you are saying you did not listen to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:23 PM
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I see, so you have no studies then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:22 PM
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People are free to be racist and a Nazi too. Does not change what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:22 PM
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I rly? Then post one and show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:43 PM
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Are they all as garbage as this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:31 PM
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The real answer to this is simple, but blue pillers will hate it. Wanting something means you are desiring something they want you to have or do not care if you want. Being entitled to something means you are desiring something they do not want you to have. They just say entitlement means something else to make it sound sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:47 PM
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That study only had 60 women and 60 men in it, it is also incredibly flawed in it’s execution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:43 PM
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Because “you are not entitled” is not an argument, it is a way to try to silence arguments from people they do not like. Like op feels entitled to autistic people not complaining about obvious discrimination, ableism and double standards. She just expects them to be happy and cooperative with the outcome she wants them to have just because she feels she has a case of main character syndrome. Nobody can use the “you are not entitled” argument without really being entitled themselves, which is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:37 PM
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So she is a misandrist and ableist then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:28 PM
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Basically, like always, misandrists feel entitled to men accepting shitty lives they do not want to live with a smile on their face. So men are not “entitled” to have emotions and talk about how they are discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:20 PM
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The construction workers are very useful to me. Yet i don't want to mate with any of them. So you do not find blue collar construction workers useful as mates then. Could be for a variety of reasons. Like blue collar jobs being deemed lower status in the current world. Or you want a man who is useful in terms of entertainment and such instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:51 PM
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What are you talking about? It is just the cold hard truth. Just because you do not like it does not make it “contentless rhetoric.” And it is not a woe is me post at all. I even just got done with an edit explaining that men are no different before seeing your reply. The mating game is not special at all and breeds toxicity in many ways because of how horrible evolution really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:48 PM
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Aka just be a useful enough object for her to want. Just like how mating works with all other animals. Men are no different, but for some reason our culture pretends women/‘ sexuality is better to the point that men “deflower” and hurt her for having sex with her. Men want a girl that is fertile, has very little experience, is loyal, etc because that is what is most useful to men to mate with (aka a high chance that she will have several of his children). Our bodies do not understand birth contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:40 PM
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Does it really need to be described? Just look at simps and how society treats female and male sexuality. A large number of men see female sexuality as holy and male sexuality as predatory. So men have to “earn” or “buy” access to her body. Men hurt women by sleeping with them. If some perceived low value man sleeps with a hot girl, other men will literally get mad and try to force her away from him because they see her sexuality as holy and a measure of a man’s value. So it means she is low val…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:39 PM
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You are right. These standards are a double edged sword that often results in lose lose situations. Women have low standards, she is bad. If she has high standards, she is bad. Honestly it would be better if women and men had low standards. The reason it was high for women was because birth control did not exist, the idea of men owning women’s fertility and men’s value being determined by the girl he owned. Which hurts everyone directly and indirectly. Same is true for men. Men who have high sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:31 PM
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*only by men they also want. If a man who is not wanted by other women wants you and sees you as special, that is framed as being creepy, unconfident, weird, etc. While a high status man stalking you will be seen as amazing until after the new relationship energy is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:26 PM
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Nah, it is not complicated at all. It is just that a lot of people want to pretend women’s attractions are special. Like all other creatures, just be useful enough to her that she wants to mate with you over others. Animals are imperfect and often assume one mate is wrongly better then another and such ofc. Men and all other animals are the same too ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:21 PM
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All the bi friends I have talk about how much easier and more romantic men are. Women just sit there and expect you to do all the work. Men treat you like a human. Ofc they want things from you like sex, they are human. Nothing wrong with that and to expect a man to not want sex from you in a relationship is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:52 PM
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As someone who lost 100 pounds and got a six pack, I can also confirm this. The women on my level before my transformation were only interested in me after my transformation (inb4 women who were 100 pounds over weight are on the level of a man who can bench press 200 pounds and has a six pack). And getting with a woman who actually sees you as an alpha vs a beta is eye opening. Made me sick to my stomach and disappointed in women because of the false expectations I was sold as a kid. It is why I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:49 PM
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No matter how you try to sell it, beta buxing is beta buxing. You are not getting the look and her peak passion unless you are her alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:28 PM
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Sorry, but if you loved your partner, no one would be better to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:25 PM
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So you are saying you missed my point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:24 PM
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Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:26 PM
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I do agree with you for the record. But men will be judged and hated no matter what they do really. So there is no victory outside of quiting the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:18 PM
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Then you would be considered being a loser, deadbeat, misogynist, gay or even a terrorist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:10 PM
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Exactly again. I am not falling for the trolling lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:48 PM
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Have you thought of running a youth centre and providing guidance to boys without a role model? I am literally a volunteer big brother and have saved more lives than you ever will. But ofc, you have to try shame attacks for I am right. If this is truly your concern, then there are probably better ways to be of service to society than this sub. No, there is nothing more important then spreading awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:47 PM
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Cherry picking fallacy. Most women were not raped, even statics in war torn areas of the world like Africa show most women are not raped. Men are also statistically raped as much as women are…by women too ofc. Stop bringing your rape fetish into this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:29 PM
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Exactly, just a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:27 PM
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Why does it matter as a man, what a women needs to do or not do. Because we live in reality where everyone’s actions influences one another? Like women choosing to be single mothers sounds like none of your business until there kids shoot up a school or close down the stores in your area because they keep stealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:27 PM
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No, I am more than reasonably frustrated at misandry, sexism and lies. How come when it comes to men’s standards, they are framed as evil or sexist? Even when they are more tame and achievable they are framed as such (ex: all women can lose weight, most men cannot be tall). But when women have clearly absurd standards, feel entitled to what they want from men or a relationship, and openly discriminate and mock men it is okay. It is okay to bully men to suicide, but a man saying he wants to date …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:19 PM
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Because it is not a logical argument at all, just something to try to get a emotional response out of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:03 PM
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Either using a trash study or just making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:46 AM
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That is really misandrist and horrible. Imagine flipping the genders. Men refuse to date non-virgins, stone women with over 5 partners to death, force themselves on women to breed with how they want, etc. But but it is there job Like cmon, it is absurd how far the hatred and discrimination against men goes. About 20-30 years ago, there was a national outcry about how bad the unrealistic standards for women were. This is exactly the same, but it k for women are doing it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:45 AM
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Well yeah, men need to “know there place” and always accept sacrificing there humanity to be useful enough for the girl to use them when needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:41 AM
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They need to rationalize why nerds who are now high value in many ways are worse then the now bum/abusive/deadbeat chads they chased instead. They cannot say it is because Chad was attractive and the nerd isn’t, so they need to make all these strange sterotypes and assumptions to pretend they are morally inferior. Usually focusing on inverting causality to pretend the results of being bullied or ostracized is the cause instead of the the effect. The only thing nerds can do is be willing beta bux…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:39 AM
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Do you honestly expect anyone to bother to care about your view when you troll like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:33 AM
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Nah, they are only important skills men need to have for we are tools in the modern society There is no expectation of women ever needing to do anything but be themselves. They can ofc do more if they wish, but a man who does not improve himself to a high degree is ostracized and pushed to kill himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:32 AM
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Except even outside of farm families they has big families. Also lol at hating children for hurting the “physical and emotional well being of women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:29 AM
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Martial rape was allowed into the 90s, after reproduction rates began dropping. And it was certainly never a significant cause of pregnancies because of how rare it was. It is pretty distrusting that people keep bringing up rape here. Are forced impregnation fetishes common for women to have? Because I would rather not talk about it. Like why even bring it up at all when it is not really relevant at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:27 AM
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Interesting how it always changes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:14 PM
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Thinking 30 is not old is a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:36 PM
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The generation that gave birth to baby boomers did not need to do it for economic reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:41 PM
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Well duh, you would respond to any argument with that quote for it is a mind game. And no, I did not do what you described. If you disagree, proof it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:40 PM
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But everyone told me it is about attitude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:39 PM
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Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:19 PM
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The opposite, women dismiss and repress men's issues and blame men for women's problems. Like women dismissing male rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:19 PM
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So long as people have access to contraception the only way to make them have children they don't want is rape. There is no point in making people having children they do not want to begin with. Banning contraception just results in people being far more prudish and responsible with sex (ex: saving themselves for marriage). People had big families in the past for they wanted big families because of strong traditional values. The idea that women only had kids out of force is just laughably disres…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:17 PM
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Hold up, what does contraception have to do with rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:48 PM
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My entire point is that is bs. If you keep quoting a lie, I will assume you are just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:20 PM
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Funnily enough, there would be an international outrage if we pressured women to change as much as we pressure men to change. Objectification is good when it comes to what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:11 PM
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Well, a common issue is that men will make all of their problems women's problems while dismissing women's problems. You can see that attitude here every single day. BS, it is the opposite. Take rape, feminism has fought hard to not count over 80% of male rape victims (forced to penetrate victims) and protect female rapists. Men cannot even get help for rape anymore and whenever a man talks about dating problems there is always atleast a few women “that sucks, but atleast you do not have to worr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:08 PM
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I mean the real answer to op’s question is if the rant is beneficial to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:02 PM
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Why do you want rape and forced reproduction? That is never needed. Women love having big families in patriarchal cultures by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:01 PM
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But it sure makes a FDS follower the same as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:00 PM
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Because they are entitled and are anti-self improvement. They feel they are owed a good man just because they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:42 PM
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Why do you assume that the poster cares about the argument in the first place? They clearly are more interested in writing off the opposing view than actually engaging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:31 PM
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Then she will go date and have sex with an abusive ahole lol. I mean, a girl not dating you because you are rude to others? BS, they do it all the time and complain about how the men they date are not nice all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:27 AM
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They are trying to rationalize monkey branching as okay or being a girls settle down option the same as her loving you. Which is not true. If she loved you, she would pick you regardless of what other options she has for you would be choice number one. Men are always supposed to be happy and accept being treated like tools to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:15 AM
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No, because it does not matter in this context. You cannot say you love someone and then wish you married someone else for instead if they were available (ex: a celebrity).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:10 AM
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I am honestly engaging with you...you just don't like my opinions. Dude, you literally just said: No dude. I know you're beyond help. You literally got so upset with my opinion that you started to emotionally respond and start shame games man. So no, you were not honestly engaging with me and backpedaling now is not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:08 AM
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Exactly. It does not matter how you try to reframe things. If you cannot honestly engage me, then it just means you lack the confidence to believe you are actually right. Or in other words, you need to save face by reframing it to empty shame and now personal attacks because I am right. The moment you argued that men must earn, no buy affection and acceptance is the moment you indirectly proved my point. Your entire argument is really “Just be a tool bro and like it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:02 AM
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Because if they did, they would not see someone else as better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:57 AM
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And I am wondering who you are talking to. All women can get sex and dating for free, so it does not matter how successful you are. Argue my actual point or go talk to non-existent people elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:56 AM
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It is said daily here, lie better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:02 AM
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Why did you avoid the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:01 AM
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Hun, all of the fan mail received by male serial killers makes your attempt to shade women laughable. What are you talking about? Are you okay. I just noted that a woman being successful at dating is pointless because it is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:01 AM
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What did you think I just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:59 PM
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Empty shame attacks eh? I am assuming that means you know I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:59 PM
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How does that make it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:57 PM
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Ofc not, he is not human to them. All they care about is how useful he is as a good beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:27 PM
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The divorce rate is a fact. The reasons behind them are also facts. And what does that have to do with anything in this context? The fact is you lied. And you are being quite disagreeable here, I guess you would be stuck dating “chauvinist assholes” for you believe you have to be agreeable to her someone agreeable. But really you are just projecting, you want things to be different. Because disagreeable men marry agreeable women all the time, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:26 PM
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Yep. Why is it bad that humans are not having enough children? If humans went extinct, why would that even be bad? Humans are like cockroaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:22 PM
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The black pill is just a realistic view on it. It is eugenics, that is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:20 PM
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They say nobody should settle for a relationship that makes them miserable and that nobody can “negotiate attraction.” Then they shame and pressure men into settling with women that make them miserable. Finally they pretend they never did anything and it is your fault for listening to them. You basically just have to roll your eyes and take what blue pillers say with a grain of slat for they are liars (intentionally or not).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:19 PM
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First they ignore you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Finally they pretend they agreed with you all along. The red pill and black pill is slowly being accepted as true, so they have to backpedal more and more while pretending they never said x yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:16 PM
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And what is your point? Empty bs and jabs are meaningless. I fail to understand why you ever bothered to respond to me. You clearly are not interested in truth and facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:13 PM
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It is because women want a man two times bette then them to sweep them off their feet. But that cannot happen because of equality. Women refuse to accept there equal for she feels superior to him. So they have no choice but to accept being miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:11 PM
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The solution is the patriarchy. We will just keep declining until it happens. Women want men two times better than them. So equality just will never work. Women will say they want there equal, that they care about personality, etc but their actions will never show it. They will say men are not entitled to x, but what they are really doing is saying they are entitled to y for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:09 PM
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That is because women’s bodies are overrated period. Most women who we consider 7-10 are not that special. Incels are often just as much in shape as them. We are like cardinals, the male needs to be 3 times the person she is to be seen as her equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:06 PM
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Then they should stop lying that they love the men they settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:04 PM
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The sky is always falling. Cultures, countries and communities far, then others rise to replace them. Even in the past 50 years, so much has changed. Eventually what you believe in will die, and nobody will care for they are simping for the next preselected idiot who we will pretend is special. And humans do not persist, they leech. They are the locusts upon earth. They are horrible creatures that will spend forever destroying and lying to pretend they are special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:03 PM
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That is not what you said. You said you need to be agreeable to her an agreeable partner. Being disagreeable is not bad at all, it leads to having a higher income, makes you stronger and being much more confident. In many instances being agreeable is bad. It can result in you being exploitable, boring and dependent on another to actually make decisions. Being disagreeable is a very attractive trait for a man to have. Women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:59 PM
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Always worked that way. The difference is everyone settled way sooner and men had higher standards when it came to partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:55 PM
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They see an average guy get a date with a below average girl and then use that to pretend a wage guys are all dating super models. Statistically, the bottom 30ish percent of men are sexless. The next 30ish percent of men can get sex with a ltr (with a bottom 30ish percent girl). And the top 30% get the remaining 60ish percent of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:53 PM
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By learning a few things, you mean be a top 20% man, become a useful beta idiot and/or wait until she is done with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:50 PM
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basically even the ugliest of us can self improve to get a hot woman. Pimpin ain’t easy Pimpin might not be easy, but trolling sure is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:48 PM
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Aka alpha fux/beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:47 PM
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Just seems the vast majority of men mean "maid/cook/mommy/therapist/secretary" So you want a slave, not a partner then. And ofc you have no issues getting dates, you are a woman. You can literally rape and murder people, you will still get success at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:46 PM
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lol. That is like saying you have to be confident to be with a confident man. Or tall to be with a tall man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:44 PM
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Yes, I saw them get success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:42 PM
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Why lie? You know what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:41 PM
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No, FDS is the other side of the coin of incels, not TRP. TRPs is this is what women are/want, here is how to be what women want. It is all about self-improvement and you not being owed anything. If a woman does not give you what you want, it is you fault and you need to work on yourself. FDS is not about self-improvement at all. It is about filtering out unworthy men and being entitled to what they want. If a man does not give you what you want, it is his fault for you are owed better. Mgtow is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:56 PM
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FDS is the equivalent of incels, not TRP. FDS feels entitled to good men, TRP is all about you not being entitled and needing to do x to get success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:50 PM
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Yes there is, boobjobs are really safe and common. And most men do not care about breast size. Some want small breasts and others want giant breasts ofc, but that is a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:48 PM
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No, it means they are not spending as much money and having the kids society wants. Elon Musk and co always get annoyed when kids are pussies, it means they are being smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:09 PM
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Because that is how ageists try to rationalize their hatred of age gap relationships. They always try to turn it into you being a pedo for not agreeing with them. And so they quickly go to absurdity and pretending people under the age of 25 are not adults (until the context requires them to pretend they think they are adults again ofc). They are irrational and believe it is better for a 18 year old girl to be trapped in an abusive relationship with a young thug over a good relationship that make…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:07 PM
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You forgot money, status and charisma. You can be hot without being hot to young women. Just look at Leo. Outsiders will always think “she just wants his money” but that is always the case anyways no matter what her age is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:40 PM
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It is great for them, terrible for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:45 PM
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Also, if you think drugs “aren’t worth it”, maybe you’ve not tried the right drugs? Right drugs? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:45 PM
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Nah, I know exactly what they want. It does not matter what they say, what matters is what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:53 PM
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All post 90s feminism does is focus on men and trying to get what they want from men. It is not about equal treatment, it is about equal equity between the genders at best. Which is not about equal treatment at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:14 PM
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Risk-taking is only needed for something that is worth getting for the individual and is often really about exploiting the risk taker by making it a risk to begin with. Society and others loves risk takers for they take all the responsibility and risk while they reap all the benefits of those that succeed. While they can just laugh and blame those that lost the risk. A win-win for them and often a lose-lose for a risk taker with a few getting something from it. Casual sex and drugs are not worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:03 PM
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And that is a good thing. Irresponsible drug use and sex is bad. Them being more sexually accepting and open while being less promiscuous is really good for them. Less regret and more chances to get the partner they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:19 PM
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I would say 20% would be successful, 20% slightly worse then there parents, 10% are going to be somewhat successful, the rest will be a mess. And it will get worse with each generation. Yeah and millennial women are definitely trashy whores in comparison to gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:16 PM
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Sounds like every generation since the boomers atleast. Men want women who are less promiscuous. So women will always be pressured to be more prudish as they will want as high quality as a man they can get. Especially since sex and kids is all men really get from women in the modern environment. So it leads to women having tons of simps defending them and being the center of attention when it comes to casual sex, but stuck with her equal when it comes to LTRs and marriage. And it is not ironic, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:13 PM
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Because alpha fux/beta bux. A few men are hogging all the sex. So a lot more women have stds these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:59 PM
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More that they are always inside. Men are pressured to go outside and take action, but women are not. So more and more women are sitting at home and getting mad Chad is not breaking into there home to ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:58 PM
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The funny part is the more men work to improve themselves, the more they must do and the worse women get. Women are effectively spoiled children these days. They are incels who got to sleep with models.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:55 PM
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Women are really undeveloped and spoiled as a result too. The vast majority of women are socially awkward and deadweights. They often quickly become unattractive as soon as they suddenly have to start working to be in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:53 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:51 PM
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And another donkey assuming I did value judgments when I merely explained reality. See, there's a difference between objectivism and subjectivism. Then I overestimated you as I assumed you comprehended my point to begin with. I repeatedly said over and over that our natural selves suck and we should strive away from that. So why are you pretending I am arguing for something I am not? It makes zero sense. I argued that pretending the current dating environment "is just nature bro" is bs as it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:29 AM
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This, too, is also just wishful thinking. Before, we had religion, social stigma, and all other kinds of coercion that forced women to act (and in consequence select) a certain way. Nowadays, women choose freely whether they take the pill or not whether they have sex before marriage or not. They choose if they want to marry at all and not their dads. Religion, social stigma, morality, etc were attempts to control our nature after generations of horror. And women being coerced and forced to mate …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:40 AM
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Yeah, it is not a market, it is endless war. No freedom at all. Just endless violence and force until monogamy is enforced to create order. It is literally our history, reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:09 AM
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About as natural as a deer being ran over by a car. For it to be "natural" all restraints would need to be removed (including access to modern tech). If anything, the current dating environment is clearly more unnatural then ever before with birth control, dating apps, etc. Most women would not be sleeping with a few men if it was natural, that requires unnatural systems to happen. Like a king exploiting artificial systems to have access to wealth and value of it's subjects and hog it all for hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:10 PM
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Doesn't matter. If it is involuntarily, then clearly the average person is having trouble dating. If it is by choice, then that means that dating is considered to be to difficult and be too much trouble to be worth trying. So either way, the average person is having trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:03 PM
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I see, you are clearly an attack helicopter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:58 PM
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Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:01 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:55 PM
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No, that is not true at all. Men improve so they can have the privilege of taking care of a girl as she gets fat, ugly and gets cancer. Women do improve for “Chad,” but his value has nothing to do with his effort at all. Some work hard to be better, others sit around and do drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:54 PM
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He/she meant improving for men, not for themselves. A man becoming amazing at hobbies he enjoys and such is not seen as self improvement either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:52 PM
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They see men as work horses. So it is always about him serving their needs and wants no matter what he need or wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:51 PM
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Never thought about it like that, but you are right. People pretending abusers are skilled manipulators are indirectly idolizing them as being superior and proving the truth that it really is just that they are attractive. When in reality they are often just awkward anti-social loser who cannot even handle a job at McDonalds and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:37 PM
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But can never be accepted. The moment is is accepted this forum would be closed down lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:21 PM
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No, it is given by men who are not high status, hot, etc to meet the girls shallow standards. Same with women who are not hot and such. Most abusive people are anti-social and have mental health issues that make them socially awkward and creepy. The idea that abusive people are all these socially skilled masterminds and people who struggle at dating are all creeps or awkward is just such a stupid myth that needs to die. Tons of celebrities and such are socially akward and creepy. Some are even p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:19 PM
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Because women are not given the privilege of accountability. We treat women as helpless victims, so they are conditioned to think they are entitled to a man doing what she wants just because she is fucking/dating him and failure to give her what she wants. When young and hot, someone always comes in and protects her from responsibility (ex: simps). We pretend it is the good man’s fault for not being good enough or creepy. We pretend it is the abusers fault for being a manipulative mastermind som…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:09 PM
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There is always a way to frame someone as evil and a hero. We are all humans that will never be perfect. So the unattractive can always be framed as something wrong with them. Even if not initially visible, they can just create no win traps or hurt him/her enough until they get frustrated enough to complain or react to said pain. Like beating a puppy until it bites you, then claiming dogs are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:01 PM
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Careful, people might assume you are for the raping of children now. Mentioning biological truths that humans do not like will cause them to try to attack you personally instead. Like try to mention women are attracted to dominant alpha men makes you a demon alone. Like shooting the messenger that says Nazi Germany is killing Jews because you assume that means he is killing Jews and other nonsense like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:56 PM
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No, many successful abusers are dumb and socially awkward. Many are mentally ill and diagnosised as anti-social period too. The idea that all successful abusers are manipulative masterminds is silly. The real reason is attraction. And nothing is more attractive than familiarity. People who hate themselves, people from toxic families, etc will push away or sabotage relationships with good people. While they will cling to toxic partners. The other obvious reason is we do not care about personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:53 PM
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Then ask 18-19 year olds if they want to lose all the benefits of adulthood and you can prevent 18-19 year olds from dating who they want to date. Let them see if they themselves see themselves as children. And here is the truth, even if you forced all men to only date someone their own age, he is never going to pick you instead. Because the only reason to hate 18-19 year olds is jealousy. You just want to screw over other people just because you are mad that they are hotter then you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:28 PM
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No, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:29 PM
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If they can die in a war, they are an adult. The legal age for drinking should be lowered to 18 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:28 PM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:27 PM
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I do not care if you shave or not, so it cannot be everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:09 PM
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No, they are adults by every definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:08 PM
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It has to do with being harassed, laughed at, openly pointed out by people as if you were going around buttnaked. That has happened to me for not shaving before. Including people even getting physical with me. I have even people tell me to kill myself for liking feminine hobbies before and such. Equality means equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:06 PM
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I never said I wanted to date a 18-19 year old. I said it was okay for legal adults to consent to a relationship they want to be in. Which includes 18-20 year olds who want to date older people. You are just mad that you are wrong and want to try to frame dating an adult as dating a 10 year old child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:12 PM
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If being 18-25 is being a child that is. Stop treating adults as infants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:08 PM
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People look at me funny all the time if I do not shave for a week. Stop trying to pretend you or your gender are more special than the other side. Equality means equality, sorry that I will not let you pretend you are some special victim just because you also are pressured to meet standards the other gender set. I hate my beard and I hate having to take care of it to be attractive to women. But I am not going to pretend that I am somehow protesting if I choose to not be appealing to women or tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:06 PM
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If believing in freedom of choice and having the EQ to realize that other people have different beliefs and values is libertarianism, then sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:02 PM
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Can you atleast spell it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:01 PM
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As many people care about my facial hair as people care about your body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:00 PM
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I thought about it and realized that women do that for it is also bullshit. Pretending the hot cheerleader is loved because of her amazing personality and amazing character while ugly girls are hated for there shitty personalities and character is bullshit that women should and probably do complain about. What is wrong with less attractive men being upset at unfairness? Because it is annoying to your agenda? That you want them all to be happy and satisfied not living the life they want to live?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:29 PM
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You just keep trying to shame and judge other consenting adults as a term you consider evil to try to dehumanize them. Sorry but you are not a protagonist and you are not protecting damsels in distress. According to the actual definition of pedophilia, an 18 year old dating a 25-70 year old is not pedophilia and it is legally okay to happen. If a young adult wants to date an older person, more power to them. You will just have to keep seething in the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:26 PM
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Even this is not really comparable as grooming a beard so it stays in the socially acceptable range is a once every 2 weeks job. It is also something centered to the face. Bullshit. I need to shave everyday to have a clean shaven face. And I need to trim every 3 or so days before it starts to look unkept. Stop trying to pretend you are an expert on male grooming. You are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:18 PM
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Being attracted to minors (<20) is paedophilic and thus immoral. Being attracted to 18-19 year old adults is not immoral at all and legally okay. At that point you are the problem for being a kink shamer and the one who is immoral. ephebopillia Is being attracted to 15-19 year olds. hebephile is being attracted to 11-14 year olds. paedophile Is being attracted to 5-10 year olds. You are the evil one for treating consenting adults as infants just because of your personal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:17 PM
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Neckbeard is literally an insult and you know it. And if you don’t, I (and other men) am judged all the time if I do not shave or trim my beard. Especially by women. And depending on your status, you are expected to have a certain kind of facial hair or judged as having some status for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:10 PM
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This. If someone wants x, that is okay as long as it is legal and consensual. It is not okay to force others to be x or to shame and hate someone that wants x.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:07 PM
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And women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:06 PM
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This is not true. Women were shaving back in the 1920s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:05 PM
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It is because of our traditional roots. Men’s sexuality is framed as predatory, abusive, aggressive and evil. While women’s sexuality is framed as holy, pure, sacred and innately good. So porn came to reflect this as all it does is sell people what they believe and want sex to be. Corporate interests are the same, they just chase the money. And hate to say this, but history shows older men dating women 15-18 has been pretty common. And many older women have been interested in men 15-18 too. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:04 PM
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Oh cmon, insulting some men and for being attracted to youth and hairless women is stupid. Many men will be attracted to women who are most fertile or display signs of fertility. If you do not like it, blame evolution and reality. And ephebopillia is not pedophilia. I have no idea why people keep misusing the term pedophilia. And being attracted to a 18-30 year old girl is not ephebopillia either. A 30-70 year old man wanting a young adult woman to marry is just his own personal preference (does…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:53 PM
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The obvious equivalent are men who do not shave or groom their beards. Which our culture also hates as neckbeards and deems as low value behavior. Men not putting effort to choose clothes that suit him is because men’s usefulness is not based on his fashion sense. The only time men are expected to dress up is for special occasions or when he wants to show off his status to signal his worth to others (ex: wearing a Rolex watch). Men’s value is more based on money, his genetics (ex: height), his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:43 PM
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Nah, it is the equivalent to a dude not taking care of his beard or shaving it off. People just do not like when the other gender does things that they do not find attractive or useful to them. They call it political because they assume that she is doing this to purposefully be unattractive to men to make a statement in the man vs woman gender war. Why she herself actually did not groom herself is not really relevant, what matters is what is useful for the power games the rich play/ While a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:17 PM
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It is as gross as women wanting a provider and protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:16 PM
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Men have a lot of internalized misandry these days. Just like women had a lot of internalized misogyny in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:14 PM
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Nah, it is easy for a girl to get a good relationship, he will be just a lot less attractive and lower status than the men she can sleep with. She has to marry her equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:10 PM
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You should strive to be what gets you what you want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:01 PM
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If you wanted someone to live a better life, you would not insult them. You are just a poor liar I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:00 PM
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Exactly what I mean, you just want to hate on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:29 PM
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Dude, I am married. You do not know anything about mens experiences in dating, the red pill or anything else involving men. Maybe you should stop being so arrogant and womansplaining so much? Maybe then men you are trying to talk to would listen to you instead of just rolling there eyes and/or just ignoring your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:18 PM
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If that is what you believe is true, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:15 PM
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Ahhh. Another womansplainer who knows absolutely nothing but pretends she is holier than thou. If those men could just go out and get a girlfriend, they would have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:40 PM
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No, women are not more attractive, you are just biased for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:30 PM
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that it proves all women are immoral whores, that's an offensive generalization. In many religions (ex: Islam) and cultures, having sex before marriage is a sin. So to them, that would be true and it is offensive to them that women are evil according to their religion by having a bunch of premarital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:20 PM
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Have you ever dated a girl before?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:12 PM
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That is a lie dude. Being preselected as being attractive is way different then being “friend zoned”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:58 PM
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Because people do not care about “personality.” They care about signals of usefulness or preselection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:56 PM
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Everyone knows Chad on the college football team is a incel while average accountant who is slightly chubby has a harem of models lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:55 PM
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Aka the problem is men that are unsuccessful with dating actually “went outside” and experienced reality as it really is. They tell a funny joke and only there friends and family laugh. Chad then steals your joke and everyone laughs while pretending you stole his joke. Sometimes Chad even does it to insult you and people laugh anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:54 PM
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Funny thing is that they all pretend that the problem is that they are not “going outside”, when that is because they went outside and went to parties already with zero success. Like pretending the poor are poor because they are lazy, when they previously worked really hard until they realized it was a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:51 PM
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And a lot of the “personality” traits and “social skills” that people talk about are the result of being preselected anyways. Even if you could get a girl with social skills and personality, you are just a beta at that point. You will have to basically dance like a monkey endlessly until she gets bored. Might as well just go the atm path at that point, it is the same thing. Just a different kind of work Oc. And men do not want that, they want a girl who is attracted to them and loves them withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:48 PM
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That is the path to being a good beta I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:43 PM
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Human minds are quite limited, we need to sterotype in order to categorize it in a way for us to understand. Take a ball, is it actually a ball? No, it is a clump of molecules that we stereotype as a ball to be able to logically comprehend it in a way that is possible and useful to us. Same thing with people. How in the world can we actually know the personality of 1000+ different people around us when our mind can only handle knowing 150ish people in total? We need to fill in the gaps with ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:30 PM
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When it comes to who she chooses to date initially, “Personality” is just a bs rationalization. And a lot of what “personality” is initially are traits she finds useful (signals of a useful idiot, potential to be a strong work ox, etc). You have to be close to someone for months to know anything of there real personality and most couples just ignore the real personality of the other person until after the honeymoon phase is over (they just overhype or pretend good traits exist while they downpla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:09 PM
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The problem is they do this all the time with studies that mention race at all (which is why people think this one will get removed). The entire thread could not contain a single instance of race at all and the thread will still be deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:25 PM
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Which is because children cost too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:32 PM
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I am saying that having kids is a bad deal from financial perspective. Let's make it a better deal than being childless How would making it harder to get to the point of having kids help anyone. It would just make more people choose to not have kids. We can spend the money to for example cancel student debt of mothers in countries where education is paid, So steal from those who cannot afford children and college to pay for irresponsible people who went to college when they couldn’t afford it? o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:02 PM
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I do not like the idea of forcing women to do anything, but i think that childless people should be paying much higher taxes That is literally trying to force people to do something by severely punishing people who do not have kids. It also doesn’t work. People are not having kids for they cannot afford them, taxing them more will just make it harder for them to get to the point they can afford them. While people who do not want kids will even be less inclined to want kids. You are effectively i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:44 PM
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Because they can get a girl that has the looks + personality they want now or he was settling before and just said he found her hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:11 PM
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You are lying, I would not be shocked if none of these comments ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:03 AM
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No it isn't, which is why nobody says these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:17 AM
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Or just bring up data that shows women are just as rapey and men are raped just as much to shut them down. That tends to either go crazy trying to write off the truth (ex: does not count when it happens to men), or quiet them until they pretend they did not see what you said in the next thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:07 AM
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I find it sad that people keep ignoring this fact to keep pretending men are these horrible people and women these angels. Statistically, a man is just as in danger as a woman on a date. But we have to pretend that women are these victims and men are all horrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:05 AM
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Dang straight, no man will ever miss a shallow woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:25 AM
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Mgtow was never about pua. The whole point is that it just was not worth the effort to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:34 PM
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Hold up. Do you just counter a generalization with a generalization, whlle writing off his entire argument because it is a generalization? Data shows women are a lot more similar to men when it comes to violence and rape than you let on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:48 PM
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Does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:31 PM
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Most of there success with women is also because they buy it lol. Fresh and fit was caught using sugar babies to look good with women and Andrew Tate’s claim to fame is exploiting desperate women to use them as cam girls to exploit simps for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:25 PM
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So you are saying you did not read anything said previously. I am sure using passive aggressive clapping emojis and patting yourself on the back will make your manipulation more effective. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:58 PM
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Does being intellectually dishonest manipulative ever change anyone’s mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:56 PM
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Empty shame attacks and a lack of empathy, typical. I mean, let’s be real. What you are really saying is “only people who have not been an alpha fux think like this, sorry.” Which is the entire point lol. They do not have experience being the alpha and want the experience. I bet you even understand what I said completely, but because you are spoiled with your options and experience, so you do not care. Like a rich person understanding the plight of the poor but mocking and belittling them out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:04 PM
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And having a family does not matter. Many guys even only have kids for they were taught to have them or the woman he loved wanted them. Most men want to have the raw primal sex, romantic moments that are worth more then a life time, etc. Like what Jack in the titanic gets vs the husband who she does not care much for despite him giving way more over a 30+ year span. Men want to be the man she dreams of meeting when she dies, the one she cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:17 PM
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I only ever see that with alphas who stop being alpha when high school and college is over (or something similar like a prince who is a beta born with tons of status he inherited). Aka betas who were seen as alpha in the artificial bubble they were in (usually because a relative was an alpha or a beta who sacrificed a lot to give his child a high beta value at birth). Aka faux alphas. Which is why they drown themselves in drugs and such to begin with, the reality that they are a beta after years…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:15 PM
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Because they have no other choice. If you are not an alpha man, you are not getting treated like an alpha man. So all your option suck. It is like if men refused to treat a tomboy the way she wanted unless she dated down significantly to the point she was not satisfied with him. Her choices are: Stop being who she is and change herself to be what men want instead. Accept dating and marrying a man she does not really want. Atleast he treats and loves her like she wants. Just quit and go without H…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:10 PM
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Not good for them either. I was a beta buxer when younger and all the beta buxers I knew wanted Truthfully it is better to have that moment of passion where she is all over you and thinks you are the best man ever while not having to buying or earn her vs needing to buy her via marriage and utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:03 PM
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Do you know the narcissistic prayer? > That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. When someone can no longer pretend the AF/BB strategy women use to exploit men is no longer true, they just go “so what, it is okay for women to do” and/or “the beta should be happy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:57 PM
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No, I do not respect you because the only thing you ever did was personally attack me. You are not entitled to respect. If you want me to debate you in earnest, make a point that is worth listening to and respect the other party back so they care enough to even bother to read your username. You cannot start off a conversation with an insult and expect anyone to care about who you are at all. As far as I am concerned, you are just an alt account of the other poster. Created to play “hype man” for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:14 PM
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Because the truth does not need leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:41 AM
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Because life is toxic for men in the modern world. We are held to unrealistic expectations and need to buy access to everything. A young early 20 year old is supposed to have a six pack, be six foot tall, have a house, earn six figures, have the confidence of a 35 year old, be socially skilled salesmen, only enjoy certain hobbies, and just not care about all the insults and disrespect aimed at him. People laugh at men who are abused, mock male suicide, silence and oppress male rape victims and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:41 AM
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First they ignore you. Then they mock you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Finally, they pretend they agreed with you all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:36 AM
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Because the red pill is unrealistic for atleast half of men. You need to have certain privileges to begin with and the right personality/mindset to make it work. Most people cannot change themselves to have the personality of the copy/pasta Chad that women love. Many people just lack the charisma, confidence, body, opportunities, etc. Like I could never be the type of man the girl I loved wanted. Because I am not a tool that exists to please her, I am me. And PUA was always about grifting. A lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:35 AM
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Yep, the problem is humanity likes to pretend women are special and love is way different than it really is. Even as society preaches equality, we have to pretend women are somehow not equal to men when it comes to there toxic Many women are capitalizing on the situation and do not want to lose the privileges all the lies give them. They effectively get to exploit and use men for over a decade, then pretend it is men’s fault that she does not get the exact man or relationship she believes she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:25 AM
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Then that girl has a low EQ and is the type of person to think someone who does not care about her is more valuable if a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:12 AM
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All he can do is gaslight, lie and play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:10 AM
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You are such a liar, you said: I didn’t say I didn’t. In the post right above. I am done. You endlessly lie, gaslight and falsely accuse. And ultimately you have no argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:03 AM
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No, My point is: The same reason you are justifying why women should be able to do x because of y are the exact reason they are doing y.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:09 AM
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Gaslighting again. I didn’t say I didn’t. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:09 AM
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Never said only women manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:06 AM
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...you are the one who brought up bias gaslighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:03 PM
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Not really. You’re being hysterical because you want women to be nicer to you but they aren’t. Liar, I never said that. Quote me where I said that. And nobody is being hysterical, quit trying to dehumanize me. You have an issue with women since they don’t like you or want to go out with you. I am married. That’s your real issue. You’re conflating it with other things. Behavioral issues transcend gender, race, and creed. No, the issue is that you do not like the truth that women objectify men. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:02 PM
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Sorry, I do not care enough about you to ever learn your username. Maybe do not insult someone with a empty insult next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:18 PM
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Says the person claiming that I see ALL women as demons and ALL men as gods just because my view is different then yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:11 PM
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“I do not need men” is a saying used to insult men for not being useful enough to exploit for dating. Taking it out of context and being dishonest like that will change nobodies mind. They also insult men calling them “broke,” “economically unattractive,” and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:23 PM
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Exhibit A: a random person trying to downplay men’s experiences with being used and objectified using manipulative exaggerations to paint those who disagree as morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:19 PM
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It’s not one direction. Due to confirmation bias that’s how to take it. Plenty of women out there that don’t get good support and plenty of men that do. BS. You are here in a thread about how women objectify men and telling us how “have empathy for women.” Maybe you should have empathy for men who live a life being objectified by women before you spout such low EQ nonsense. order for you to commit to being anti woman/ taking them down a peg, you have to believe what you believe. Passive aggressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:16 PM
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Because it implies women only want men that need or are useful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:23 PM
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Funny how this is always one directional. When it comes to a man suffering because of women’s shallow and unrealistic standards, suddenly it is okay to gaslight and try to act like he is the problem for being unhappy about being objectified. When it comes to women complaining about how men objectify and use them, you would be quick to empathize with them and pretend he is an ahole for wanting a girl with an H cup only (looking down on everyone else), super skinny and only wants sex. But a man co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:21 PM
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Because they always have to assume the men who say the truth are some loser incel to try to write off the truth. They cannot honestly engage and need to gaslight him, pretending he deserves it because of some assumed moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:16 PM
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True, but our society pretends that this is only the case when it comes to men. When it comes to women, suddenly they are these pure creatures and if a woman is not willing to sleep with you, it means there is something wrong with you as a person on a moral level or you are doing something wrong. Even in this very thread you can see people doing it. Pretending that women are these goddesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:15 PM
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The point is nobody knows his backstory. But if you are going to assume all these things about him that are definitely not the case, I am going to assume the opposite as a counter argument to prove you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:13 PM
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None of us know. Perhaps treated him poorly and he treated her poorly in response. Maybe the relationship made him miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:11 PM
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And only after he became toxic lol. He has no hope with women until after he became toxic. 20+ years being a good man with no success. Treat a girl like trash like dirt instead and he now has a girl who will never forget him. I wonder if these people will ever stop and think of the ramifications of treating someone as subhuman for over 20 years. Nah, must be that all disabled men are beings of pure malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:36 PM
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So you are saying after he started treating women like trash out of bitterness and regret he finally started to get success with women? While women hated him for over 20 years for being good? Thanks for helping me show my point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:34 PM
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Exactly. Sexism and objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:33 PM
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She literally reviewed herself as a girl to women on camera and they admitted they had no idea. I suppose you could say women are liars and write it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:32 PM
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Because I went outside and saw it with my own two eyes. So I guess reality is how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:31 PM
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Yep. If she wants a good man so bad, she can just vet and date for him. It is not collectively all disabled men’s fault that she picked poorly. Ofc, she might as well just be justifying her ableism. Date a crappy disabled man, exaggerate or set up traps that will make it impossible for him to not be toxic, and use that as an excuse to hate people. Like a KKK member aggressing a black thug and pretending that means his hatred is justified. Who knows. Her side of the story is pretty empty by itsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:30 PM
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Interesting, why do these questions matter in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:27 PM
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If he wasn’t a dick, she would have never dated him anyways. She will just dodge a Asperger’s good man for another abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:05 AM
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If he treated her right, she would have dated someone else who would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:03 AM
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Reversing causality and making dating some kind of moral thing again? Ofc someone who was treated as dirt in dating would end up mentally messed up. Women sleep with and marry misogynists, abuser, crazy and socially awkward people all the time. And often they start ending up getting attention and success with women after they start treating women like trash, while she would never date him if he was not those things. So please drop the illogical and baseless judgments. I am not even defending the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:00 AM
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You forgot to mention a few things. These studies count divorced as single. It mostly only counts marriages that are actually happy too. Miserable marriages or failed marriages are not counted. Any data on happiness is bs and as useful as any random opinion on Reddit. There is no objective way to measure happiness and it changes frequently. Someone can say they are happy when they are even worse off in every way then a point where they were more miserable. A good example of this is studies show …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 10:30 PM
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This is such a one dimensional way to look at human behavior. You are projecting. I am describing humans not as one dimensional objects whose traits exist independently from one another as you are, but animals who have personalities and quirks. You will never get what you want for men are not objects that exist to serve you, they are people. You cannot warm yourself with a cube of ice and it is not the cubes fault for not being able to do so. It is your fault for feeling entitled to a cube of ic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:05 PM
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Blue collar union workers in the US tend to have reactionary politics and love the GOP, yet most don’t realize that organizing your workplace has always been an anti-capitalist principle. Workers gaining control of the fruits of their labor value is literally at the heart of what socialism is. But don’t you dare say that scary word! No, that is too binary. It is not a line of capitalism or socialism at all. There are many different systems that are not related to captions or socialism at all. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:17 PM
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Your first two paragraphs are just circular logic. No, I just do not want to write out an essay length explanation for the obvious. Women want masculine men to be feminine when it suits them and masculine men are not going to be feminine enough to do feminine roles and they will not want to for it is not who they are. And pulling your weight at home =/= being shy and “feminine”. You don’t need a timid personality to wash your own damn dishes…it’s called being an adult who can clean up after them…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:03 PM
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The entire point is that what you think is 50/50 effort may very well not be 50/50 to another. No, what is 50/50 is entirely subjective and too distorted by bias to ever be arguable at all. I will expand my argument to that. Women take for granted the chores men do and vice versa. Many women discount what a man does around the house when discussing house chores (the same as men do), one may consider a house clean while another may see it as dirty, one may consider a long but easy task as a bigge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:48 PM
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Our culture believes women are entitled to what they want from men. So the problem is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:31 PM
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That is just entitlement. They want a dude that has the shallow traits they want, then feel entitled to him doing what they want just because she slept with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:30 PM
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Because people are stupid and fail to realize that if socialism was amazing, the entire world would be socialist right now. And if capitalism was really that bad, it would not be the most popular system used. Every Gen thinks they know better then all the other previous gens combined, but it just shows how inexperienced they are with human nature and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:27 PM
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If he is okay with it, why do you care what your value is? Perhaps he even values that due to his paternal instincts. I personally would prefer a helpless attractive girl who was fun. Makes me feel special taking care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:23 PM
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Also, a higher percentage of women compared to men in the US today have more favorable attitudes towards socialism. Union Blue Collar workers lean towards the right….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:20 PM
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Exactly, also why men are not respected as stay at home husbands. They just are nowhere near as valuable as women as stay at home partners for a variety of reasons. It sucks that we are mostly only valued and rewarded for what we have to offer others…but that is life. I could spend a lifetime saying it is wrong and would be better as x, but it would not matter even if I was 100% right about everything. Life does not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:02 PM
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You are right. Humans in general suck. We worship a bunch of shit that does not matter and never will out of fear of our insignificance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:59 AM
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Exactly, just make the definition 50/50 arbitrary because it is not 50/50 to use it as a dishonest negotiation tactic. Ans a lot of the supposed benefits women give men are either all in a man’s head or have no value at all. As men use women to cope with there weaknesses instead of addressing them. Women will never contribute anywhere close to to 50/50 really. They will get with men superior in everyway..so superior that a gender bent version of the relationship would have people concerned the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:58 AM
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Because modern women want masculine men. Masculine men are masculine and so they will avoid doing feminine roles. So it isn’t that men cannot be convinced, it is more that women are never going to settle for the men who they can convince for they currently find said men unattractive. The moment when women start gushing over and dating shy, feminine men and such is the moment that equality will easily happen in all respects. Until then, it is just a dishonest negotiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:59 AM
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50/50 will never happen. It is just dishonest negotiation tactics where women want men to give as much as possible while give as little as possible. As a man, we have to superior to her to be worthy of her to begin with and will be forced to die for random women who treat us like shit if needed. Women will never want 50/50 when it does not benefit them to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:54 AM
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The problem with that is men are still expected to be providers and do all the male assigned domestic roles still. Aka what you define as. 50/50 may very well not be what is actually 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:51 AM
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Simpler, this is just trying to help women dodge accountability again by pushing the blame on something else. Always remember, women are helpless victims and strong empowered people at every given moment. It is about what helps get her all the credit and avoid accountability in a specific moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:47 AM
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Ah yes. Equality for women, traditionalism for men like always. Women want men who make double they make so they can be good providers for them. But that is sexist so we have to make it so women earn as much as or more than men. Now all men who do not make more are “economically unattractive” losers that need to pick themselves up by the bootstraps to be a good man by earning twice as much as again….but that is sexist so we need to make things equal again. Always find it hilarious how women feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:42 AM
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Men get married for they are creatures do pride and insecurity. They think they are better, addicted to sex and believe they are the main character. So they always think there girl is different and the wisdom of other men is just because they are inferior. So 20 in 20 men think the women they are marrying is the 1 in 20 women who is not like that. And any attempts to warn them means that you are inferior to them or he is special and different, so the advice does not apply. But even if he is luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:37 AM
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They is because he is worth significantly more then you in the market, so he has a lot more bargaining power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:33 AM
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Yeah I think another missing piece here is the fact that wages are suppressed and the wealth gap only keeps widening pretty much everywhere. We no longer live in a patriarchy, so men no longer have the incentive to fight to keep the middle class alive anymore. So it will keep getting worse and any attempt to try to fix it will just end up being a poor bandaid fix that will not work or make things worse. I mean, you do realize the only reason the middle class exists is because men striked and fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:32 AM
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This. So much this. I am tired of people trying to pretend women can not be selfish and accountable for her actions. When a man acts in his selfish interest, we do not try to pretend it is somehow women’s fault, the result of “late stage capitalism,” or some other nonsense. We just hold him accountable. So red pill is bad, but a gender bent equivalent is not considered bad at all as a dishonest negotiation tactic. Dating in general is really exploitative and selfish in many respects. It is an un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:18 AM
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It would be more interesting to discuss “sprinkle sprinkle” nonsense as another way capitalism brainwashes population though. Gold digging and sprinkle stuff both can be tied to overconsumption of goods people don’t really need. We can throw into the same pile girl math, “I’m just a girl” etc. It’s just capitalism and the idea that you can be happy only if you buy this 100500th useless crap that just took resources from the Earth and you’ll throw away in a month. Discard people and worship stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:09 AM
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No, both sides cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:15 PM
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Forced to penetrate does not count as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 08:01 PM
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I personally would prefer skipping right to that part. I would want to date and love the real her anyhow. The fakeness and needing to be on your best behavior ruins it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:59 PM
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You are missing the point. The same reason you are justifying why women should be able to do x because of y are the exact reason they are doing y.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:52 PM
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If there's ever any question at all, you're doing it wrong BS. There are always possible questions and women can lie. Women are adults and accountable for their actions. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:59 PM
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There are no young boys getting slammed on the ground and raped by adult women. And if there were the would be in prison like Mary K Letourneau. No force she still did time. Forced to penetrate does not legally count as rape. So you are just wrong. Most female predators get away with it or slaps on the wrist. Sometimes raped boys need to even pay there rapist child support. I was a raped as a child. You are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:54 PM
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Accountability involves everyone involved. Like the robot is partially at fault for sucking, but so is the people who created it, the people for buying the robot, etc. Free will is about putting all the accountability on the individual who does the action while removing accountability from everyone and everything else that led to this moment. This is to take the credit for everything to feel special (I am rich because of my efforts, let’s ignore my mentors, my supporters, the opportunities grant…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:51 PM
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That is the exact reason they justify what they are doing. You will leave or cheat the first chance someone more alpha comes, so why should they be loyal? I think you are missing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:46 PM
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But shoot if men aren’t suppressing the urge why should women? That’s the question I’m asking when these men are arguing that it’s okay for men to cheat but not women. That is exactly what these men are doing. The red pill literally states that women are only loyal as there options and they are hypergamous. So it is all amoral and you should aim for what selfishly pleases you the most at her experience for she is doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:23 PM
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It is because we keep treating women’s sexuality like it is special. So it isn’t that he is hot, it is that he is somehow morally superior then the men she does not find hot enough to date or sleep with. Men, when rally young also try to rationalize that they like a hot girl because she is special and such, but we hold him accountable. So they tend to wise up. While we try to hold men accountable when she picks poorly because she is entitled to a good man and experience. Aka male sexuality is ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:22 PM
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Well duh. You cannot expect people to be loyal and good just because they committed to you. That is entitlement. Lots of people feel entitled to the people they are attracted to “doing the right thing” just because it is the right thing to do. Only people who are loyal and good will bother to be loyal and good. So if women and men chase shallow traits over the fact that he/she is loyal and good, then they should not be shocked when they are not loyal or good. These men are open that woman should…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:14 PM
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Because it is not rape. Calling it rape is like saying a good salesmen is a thief just because someone regrets a purchase several months later.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:05 PM
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That is bs. Is that scummy? Yes. But to call that rape is like calling a good salesmen a thief because you regret buying a product in a few week. It is the same as a man saying a girl raped him because she looks different without makeup, did not mention she was married, he regrets sleeping with her the next day, etc. It is just unenforceable and an overreach of government authority. The government is not daddy, he is not here to punish the dudes that women regret sleeping with later. We would ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:04 PM
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Why do you assume that this is not the case to begin with? A lot of this is the girl changing her mind after the fact and people believing her because it is a witch hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:55 PM
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Doesn’t matter as consent can be retroactively taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:54 PM
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No, it is just pointless to argue with a manipulator
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:43 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:12 PM
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How would just blatantly lying ever win you an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:18 AM
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It is hilariously used to avoid accountability and put responsibility on the individual too. Basically feeling entitled to people being and doing x, claiming someone not being x is them being a loser or evil. You know, poor people are all just lazy, whlle those that are rich are all hard working. Or men who are successful in dating are morally good while those they aren’t are morally evil. Completely ignoring the genetics and environmental that lead to people having x personality and being condi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:17 AM
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My argument is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:06 AM
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Exactly, women cheat and leave good men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:05 AM
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Exactly, men should not couple with women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:05 AM
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That is like saying “I do not believe the world is round, but I do believe that the earth is a sphere.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:04 AM
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Humans are creatures of pride and insecurity. So evo psychology will always be hated and pseudoscience to the masses. The idea that we are animals…or worse, biomachines with no free will makes people uncomfortable and will be something that people will not accept. They want to pretend love is this special spiritual thing when it really is about a dude seeing a fertile girl and offering enough to buy access to shoot is gross mucus in her disease ridden hole. Especially women as the truth takes aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:11 PM
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Have you ever considered successful men get success because they are successful, while unsuccessful men are unsuccessful because they are unsuccessful. Women operate on preselection and hypergamy. Effort and personality do not matter, what matters is if a woman finds you useful enough to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:05 PM
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True, I find both men and women tend to lie to themselves about what they are attracted to try to feel special. They then try to blame the other side for being exactly what they wanted. But if men and women wanted people with good personalities as much as they say, you would see ugly people who are really good people have harems of suitors wanting them over attractive/rich/etc people who they do not know the personality of at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:00 PM
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Op, this topic is pretty pointless to debate about because of human nature. Everyone wants what they want, and they want others to pay for it. Aka all is fair in love and war as long as it benefits me. The moment it doesn’t, then it is bad and needs to be changed. Like in the past, women were the ones being told they were not entitled to working and such because men had the advantage. Now women have the advantage so they abuse it all the same. The moment men get an advantage women will claim it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:33 PM
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Sorry, but empty shame will not work on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:00 PM
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This. Women keep putting selfish aholes at the top of there “I want to date and marry lists,” so why would the clearly selfish pieces of trash stop being pieces of trash when women keep empowering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:20 PM
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Tbf, they act like shit for women keep throwing themselves at them. Why would men strive to be good when women do not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:18 PM
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Tbf, women will keep chasing, worshipping and being loyal to them anyways. So why bother being a good partner when women do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:16 PM
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Men care about what utility women provide them as a trophy wife for their status. No, men care about women for who she is innately. They do not care about what they are. They do not care about her status, maturity or utility. They care about her fertility, energy, cuteness, body, smile, etc. Women want men to effectively be adult children and use them as a purpose in life. And they often want a woman other men covet just to feel special and such. I bet you have even been told something like “You…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:12 PM
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No, men are definitely pressured to get with girls they do not find attractive and put way more effort in. Even having a “I want a girl who is not fat” standard will get you attacked. I was pressured to date girls I did not want to before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:28 PM
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Women are not prizes, they are liabilities. Becoming better so you can take care of her as she becomes worse is just toxic. Becoming fit, so you can hold her as she becomes heavier and ugly. Becoming richer so you can take care of her as she becomes more expensive via medical bills. To become more confident so you can take care of her when she is insecure and weak. Especially since the women they expect you to get in the end will start off being single mothers, post wall, no longer as attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:48 PM
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You are right. Women care about what utility you provide them. How entertaining you are, how good of a handyman you are, how good of a work ox you are, etc. Everything that is attractive is about signals of how potentially useful you are (confidence, strength, etc). Some Women even think it is fun to try to use her pussy to turn a wild ox into a well trained one. And dating itself is about dishonestly negotiating a good deal by holding frame. She demands as much as possible while giving as littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:23 AM
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https://post.ca.gov/portals/0/post_docs/publications/Building%20a%20Career%20Pipeline%20Documents/safe_harbor.pdf As reported by the Center for Children and Families: 40% of all live births in the US are to single mothers. I am pretty sure 40%and over percent of women is close to 50% is normal for women to chase shitty men and pretend the consequences. They just cannot resist how “nice” deadbeats, dark triads, abusers, rapey men, creeps, etc are. But they sure as hell can tell that a poor. Ugly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:18 AM
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Well, yeah. Not every man can be a winner, it is physically impossible. Women will always find 80% of men as not good enough. So it is only worth the effort if the dude can reasonably get in the top 20% or is willing to sacrifice his self-respect to get in the top 20%. And ofc the unsuccessful will be bitter, women suck. You are nothing but a tool to them. So not having any hope in arguably the most important experiences of our life just because you were not born hot enough and such will be one …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:11 AM
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No, it is just the norm. Women sit around at the finish line and sleep with the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:04 AM
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Because they are getting more success with women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:03 AM
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Nah, it is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:02 AM
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Who you are is you as a person, what you are is your status, image, clout, etc. As an example, before I became a top tier software developer, I was a loser for my hobbies. After I was suddenly attractive because of them. Same with everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:10 PM
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Yep, my childhood friend threw her future away for a hot dude who impregnated her and left. She kept the kid and kept believing he will be back because of how responsible and nice his six pack was. She is not going to help you with advice, you will just figure out that women are just as shit as incels, they are just attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:07 PM
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Actually, red pilled men get laid way more than before the red pill. Women do not really care about personality or who you are at all. They care what you are. Which off sucks, but women are what they are. If the manosphere was wrong, it would not exist to begin with for it is just a big reaction to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:04 PM
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Tbh, that is the smartest and best thing for men to do. Obviously women treat men like trash and it costs a ton of your time, energy, self-respect and/or money ontop of all the risks (divorce, child support, false accusations, regret, suicide, loss of future opportunities, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:01 PM
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Best way is just not bother with women. Side effects include: less drama, stess, significantly more money, happier life and much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:58 PM
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No, there certainly is a sure fire wire. Just avoid women, it is not worth the risk. Lots of work for barely any reward and tons of risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:57 PM
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How does blatantly lying make me wrong. Simping is simping. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:56 PM
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Simping is simping, that is all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:49 PM
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Facts are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:51 PM
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Men are getting raped as much as women too, we just hide it under “forced to penetrate.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:43 PM
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Seriously, dating sucks for men because we are still held to our gender roles but women are not held to there roles. So men have to literally still “buy” access to her fertility as if she was a beautiful 18 year old virgin and it being easy to be twice as valuable as her to be considered equal to her. But it is sexist to be twice as valuable as her, but if you are not, you are a incel loser who needs to work more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:08 PM
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Not really. Doing things to impress girls is simping. You could say there are situations where one is simping less then another, but it is still simping. Men have always had a simping problem. It is why men have to do so much to be worthy of a high value women while women often do nothing at all. If men did not simp at all, they would be being paid to date and marry high value women as men would just not want to do all this work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:02 PM
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People are not “broken.” What you call broken means not useful or functional enough based on some standard you set them too. And they are “broken” because women have been liberated from there responsibilities to society (while men kept to there own). So they have no incentive to be “fixed.” That is why hard times make “strong” men and women. Because the world holds women accountable to be the carrots and hearts of the culture. Which in turn incentivizes men to be good (in the context of what is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:50 PM
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I find the women who want to be manhandled are way more fun to have sex with because you can get lost in the passion. No pressure to perform and they often do not even care if you last long. They just want to get lost in the desire and see you get lost in it. Seeing her go cross eyed and just beg for me to fuck her is just so romantic. Kind of like a steamy sex scene in the titanic, just all feeling. While the girls who want to cum/orgasm can be quite exhausting as you have to perform...often fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:43 PM
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That is always the case though. Women see you as a tool, so the moment she finds someone who gives her more, she no longer needs what she wants from you and/or you can no longer provide what she wants, she is gone. Women do not stay attracted to a guy no matter how hot she thinks he is and she will eventually want a retirement plan anyways (aka you will need the money and status no matter what). And her being uglier does not change that fact either. There is no difference by “buying” a womans lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:10 PM
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That is always the case though. Women see you as a tool, so the moment she finds someone who gives her more, she no longer needs what she wants from you and/or you can no longer provide what she wants, she is gone. Women do not stay attracted to a guy no matter how hot she thinks he is and she will eventually want a retirement plan anyways (aka you will need the money and status no matter what). And her being uglier does not change that fact either. There is no difference by “buying” a womans lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:10 PM
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That is always the case though. Women see you as a tool, so the moment she finds someone who gives her more, she no longer needs what she wants from you and/or you can no longer provide what she wants, she is gone. Women do not stay attracted to a guy no matter how hot she thinks he is and she will eventually want a retirement plan anyways (aka you will need the money and status no matter what). And her being uglier does not change that fact either. There is no difference by “buying” a womans lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:10 PM
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A insult is not a fact, no matter how “cool” you try to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:58 PM
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And writing empty insults is not a valid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:46 AM
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Dude, sex is gross. Humans are shit. We are literally a plague on this earth, like locusts devouring everything. Women and men love violence, sex is no exception. Women love being dominated by men bigger and stronger than them. They get turned on by it. I am sorry, I was brainwashed when I was young too. I thought humans were naturally good, the truth just sucks. Humans often hate what they are and like to Pretend love and sex is something special. But it is just our bodies compelling us to bree…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:58 AM
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No, they actively discriminate against undesirable men. They will even do things like get a ugly man fired because they deem him unworthy of the job because he is not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:13 AM
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Men having standards = predatory. Women having standards = good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:08 AM
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Most men are not predatory. Most men are pretty boring normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:06 AM
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They do not value reality for they do not have to live in it. They can do horrible things and get away with it. The bottom 80% of men and her children are forced to pay for it all. A man’s power fantasy is being the hero and getting recognized for it. A woman’s power fantasy is being the villain and getting away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:04 AM
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Close. Women want men that provide utility to them. His looks (about how strong he is), confidence, status, money, etc are all extensions and signals of that. It is why women insult men by calling them “economically attractive,” make fun of men’s hobbies that do not offer her anything, dislike men who are lazy/childish, obsess over male disposability, hate on virgins, blame men for everything, proudly state they do not need a man, etc. You literally need to be a good work ox or potential to be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:58 AM
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Yep. I am tired of everyone acting like men desiring sex they enjoy with women they find attractive is bad. While women who go to extremes in terms of their sexual attraction (ex: height, dick size, six pack, etc). Many women love being choked, wearing diapers, being a little, bdsm, getting her tits played with. Sex itself is pretty gross too. It is like too stinky monkeys or fleas breeding. Very dirty and we would be disgusted by it if we did not lust for it. To be honest, women are waaay to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:44 AM
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Because they hate men. Read my reply to him in this chain, all he could do was downvote it lol. He responds to you for he can keep the bs up, but he cannot address real data and facts. I posted solid proof and I can just post more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:28 PM
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Could be true, but the differing levels of collapse show that there are differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:00 PM
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Funny how equality is only good when it comes to what benefits women right? When it comes to men getting raped, abused, killed, etc feminists go far to cover it up and protect rapists and abusers. They even help Amber Heard. When it comes to toxic male standards, suddenly it is okay to have unrealistic and unhealthy standards for men. It is good when men die of anorexia, take steroids and live unhealthy lives to have visible six packs for chubby and average woman who are told they do not have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:59 PM
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https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d Sorry man, the truth is that you are wrong. If you say the studies in this are bad, I will just get three more studies for you. Then another three. Because frankly, all data points to equality meaning equality. Worked 10 years a a trauma center. Saw a FUCK TON of assaults serious enough to land in my ICU. Not one was perpetrated by a woman. Male on male, male on female. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:52 PM
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They do not see men as human. We are too be good tools and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:07 PM
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I wonder if people realize how much data there is that proof that women are atleast as bad as men? You write off one, you can replace it with three better studies. They eventually just run away and pretend they never saw the better studies to keep there man hate going.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:06 PM
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No, you literally cannot accept that men who deserve good treatment are treated well. Haha. You mean monsters that many women adore like Ted Bundy deserve “good treatment?” While a good man whose usefulness is up deserves to get divorced and spend the rest of his life borderline homeless? You are such a liar and you know if deep down don’t you? A man’s usefulness to a woman has no bearing if he is good or not. And clearly tons of horrible monsters get tons of good treatment while tons of good pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:03 PM
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You know I don't have to go all the way. You just cannot admit that I'm right. You are right, I cannot admit someone who is wrong is right. Men get treated with respect. Losers get treated badly. Exactly. Men who are useful objects can use there value to bargain for what they want. While men who are not useful get discriminated against and shamed to try to make them more useful objects. You keep saying I am wrong while indirectly agreeing with me. Twisting my words to fit your narrative won't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:27 PM
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The link you just posted said what led to her decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:30 AM
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“Her best-selling 2006 book about that experience, “Self-Made Man,” made her a media darling. But it cost her psychologically.” They literally just bluntly say it. Her experience has a man is what led her to committing suicide. And that is a nytimes link…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:06 AM
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I am sure having childish comebacks will change the absurdity of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:02 AM
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Someone not being into you sexually Is a really childish reason to have a negative view over someone. Liar, I never said that. According to your hatred, feminism is mad men are not sexually into them when they complain about being objectified. Men cannot even go a few days without a new “men ain’t useful enough” bs being thrown in there face. Most men who are “misogynistic” become so because of how they got burned by women. This includes exes and wives. Many are angry for they were cheated on, u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:02 AM
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I identified as trans for a while and dated women. More than a year to be specific. Definitely didn't feel like killing myself. One very specific and out of the ordinary story doesn't tell me jackshit about the objective truth, how relationships work and how female-male interactions work. Being trans does not mean you get treated like a man is. Trans men get treated differently, you have to go all the way. Yes, it is a skill issue to not be able to attract a mate. Men aren't seen as tools at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:51 AM
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Yes she did, she did so via assisted suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:44 AM
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The birth rate are collapsing differently in these cultures. The reason Japan (significantly overworked culture were a large number of men are on strike as freelance herbivores) and South Korea’s birth rate is collapsing are different. You are right, that is a common trend in all cultures, but it is not the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:44 AM
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A year and a half seems like years to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:40 AM
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The problem is sexism against men in South Korea. Men are forced to serve in the military for several years. While during that time women are getting educated and ahead in their careers. Then men are expected to be more successful than women somehow to be worthy of her. Putting too much pressure in men and leading to a shortage of “good men.” Also why South Korean men are going extremely anti-feminist and conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:06 PM
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No, men have always been labeled as slaves to their sexuality. Including in Buddhism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:03 PM
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I find it funny that being right about women is labeled as toxic. Maybe women should stop being awful then? Then observant and smart men would stop thinking poorly of them. But women will never take accountability for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:01 PM
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Nah, tons of sexist men get success with women. Women use men as tools. Men who understand that will end up not liking women. So losers, especially those who glow up or become a loser after being at the top, will despise how women objectify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:58 PM
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Funnily enough, tons of openly “sexist” men get tons of success with women. Because it is all about looks, money, status and being a useful tool to her. Not being happy with that means you are a sexist. But a woman calling to kill all men is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:55 PM
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Because women find over 80% of men below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:53 PM
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You mean the men whom women objectify, mock, openly hate and demand they objectify themselves for there benefit end up having a negative view of women because of how shallow there standards are? Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:52 PM
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It is because men are seen as tools. So it is always about needing to win and buy what you want from her. No love, no acceptance, you are not human at all. The fact you even said it is a “skill issue” is exactly the problem and shows how horrible it is. How in the world would anyone not hate that which objectifies them that much? As a lesbian, you will be treated way differently than a man is. That one lesbian who became a man for a year and tried to date women killed herself because of the expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:48 PM
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It is because we see the dating game for what it is. We are not going to be as in touch with our stupid animal side and will not see the point of stupid games. Dating sucks for men, we are nothing but tools women use and exploit. Expected to improve ourselves for years to be worthy of taking care of her when she is in diapers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:42 PM
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Basically humans have not kept up with it’s technological progress. Like intelligence never was really selected for, nature just killed off anyone who was not intelligent enough. Now that nature does not do that, the average IQ has been slowly trending downwards. So we live in an environment that does not suit us but cannot go back for the current environment is so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:41 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:46 PM
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Then you wouldn’t be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:55 PM
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Again, you are trying to womansplain. Men are different then women, stop trying to pretend you are an expert on men and their lives. It is not “self-sabotage” to protect yourself. It is not “self-sabotage” to accept reality. Women do not love men like you lie they do. If they did, men would not have to work on themselves to be useful enough tools to want to date at all. Men are going to keep waking up and you will have to deal with. More and more men will be freed from your shame and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:47 PM
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And your entire argument relies on the idea that you understand what men deal with in dating more than men do. Aka womansplaining. Men are “insecure” when it comes to trusting women’s words is for they have not earned that trust with their actions. They fear that women are settling for them for there actions do show this. Ultimately, being insecure and afraid is okay and often the smart thing to feel/do. Women lie all the time. White lies or not, lies are lies. Women make men fight in competitio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:58 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:52 PM
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No, average and below average women are way more privileged than their male equal counterpart when it comes to dating. They are only oppressed if you compare a low tier woman with a significantly higher tier man. Pretty privilege can actually be even more punishing for women, depending on the situation. If pretty privilege sucks so much, then they would just make themselves ugly. But instead women aim to be more attractive to the point that plastic surgery, cosmetics and such are billion dollar …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:51 PM
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In layman terms, it is because of what time is. Time is a relative measurement of how far along in the reaction from the Big Bang. It is why time did not exist before the Big Bang. It is the same as measuring the length of something. We make some arbitrary length and use that as a stereotype to make comparisons that our feeble minds can comprehend. We take one place in time and use an arbitrary length of time to measure the distance between the two. The two points are different for the reaction …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:54 AM
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I am married…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:42 AM
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Not to mention we treat men who are good like trash. Who wants to be that loser good man who women treat like shit because he is “husband material.” The dude who is the casual partner gets way better sex and love while you have to pay for it all. So why would men want to be good?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:39 AM
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No, many have quite a lot of value and are attractive too. And many men who sleep around want relationships too, just not with the girls they want easy sex from. Women just do not want men who want relationships for they want relationships. It makes them too “easy” and “boring.” Women want relationships with men who do not want relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:36 AM
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No, they just want the man who only want sex to commit to them. They do not want the men who will commit easily because they are too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:34 AM
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Not to mention a lot of success is impacted by your looks, status, money, etc anyways. A billionaire is going to be seen as a lot more socially skilled than he really is (ex: Elon Musk) just because he is a billionaire. Not to mention pre-selection. And in the end, it is not anymore good to like someone for social skills or be liked for them. It just means you are more useful for your utility. In matter of fact, it is better to be liked for being hot because women will treat you how you actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:26 AM
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It is because these women are too privileged to understand. They never have to buy acceptance, love, sex, friends, etc and so they believe silly advice like “just be yourself” and “just be confident.” Women are just way too spoiled overall to know how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:18 AM
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Yep. Attractive people develop good social skills, confidence, charisma, etc because they were preselected to begin with. They are use to positive reinforcement, leading to them having a more “attractive” personality. While less attractive people are laughed at by women for no reason, bullied, beaten, do not receive positive reinforcement, etc. I think a lot of this is because women live in a super privileged bubble. They do not know what it is like to date as a loser man. So they can have insan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:15 AM
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Free will does not exist. It would be more sane to believe the earth is flat. We have already made real AI and it is predestined. Humans just do not like the truth, so we just ignore that giant elephant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:05 AM
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Quit trying to invert causality. Men treated like losers are less confident because they are treated like losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:01 AM
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Why bother becoming better like that in dating though? Dating is not a game like basketball, you do not get anything by being a better object for women to desire. All you do is get used and end up with women telling you the problem is something else to keep you on an endless treadmill. When in relaid you were just not born hot enough for women to accept to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:59 AM
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And we then also pretend the problem is that poor people are just lazy and need to work too. People suck like that I suppose. A lot of life is really preselected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:56 AM
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How would that make me wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:42 PM
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You mean the place that never banned FDS but banned mgtow2 (they did not allow any form of negative talk of women) is misogynistic? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:35 PM
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And that gets labeled as misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:46 PM
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