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| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Too complicated, also some men like me have kink for having illegitimate children. It's sad how most men are unaware of how much women have to suffer and sacrifice their health and well-being to exist in this world. Women can easily sterilize themselves, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 12:14 AM |
| 4 | Would you donate an organ for your partner?Ironically it seems women are the greatest donators of organs and women the greatest recipients. If I'm a disposable men, then I'll dispose with my organs as I want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:32 AM |
| 3 | Do you care about a women's income when it comes to dating?Oh understood, agree it is not about life choices. Sadly, someone still has to pay for it so it can be a disincentive for a future partner, which is very sad for those people looking for a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:22 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectspossiblely put them in sanitariums Sadly they were closed, too many people around being crazy and pushing for crazy stuff to be normalized by healthy people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:17 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsAlso hypergamy is nothing new . You are right, but it is new that dating mechanisms that kept in in check are not there anymore or are banned or are immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDI'm glad men are working less and less than ever, let this rotten decaying evil society fall on its own and cause the most suffering to the people who allowed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:13 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsThat's a good thing, we need birth rates to decline. Overpopulation is a myth. If it was real people would be living worse than ever before, but they are consuming and contaminating less per capita than ever thanks to tech. Biggest consumers of resources are older people, so better cut from than side than from the younger side that will produce and is more environmentally aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:12 AM |
| 5 | Do you care about a women's income when it comes to dating?It is like marrying someone sick, you are accepting the consequences of that. Women often avoid sick men for this reason, so it makes sense for men to avoid women with all kind of debt (their fault or not) like the plague too. I have a family member that married with a very sick woman, he has to deal with that, she is very attractive and he is average... if she was attractive and healthy, no way she would marry that guy. It is only fair men are calculating as women are here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Do you care about a women's income when it comes to dating?Men are not for charity money just as women are not for charity sex. Deal with it as a free, independent woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:04 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsWould be actually kind of great if this world had A LOT fewer people Start with yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:03 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsJust add the implications. If Hypergamy is fewer men reproducing, then you have less genetic diversity. If bottlenecks are caused by lower genetic diversity, and fewer individuals reproducing or many dying, then you will get that. If we get genetic bottlenecks, you get genetic issues. Maybe that can explain the raise in autism? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:29 AM |
| -3 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsPrecisely why hypergamy takes over, as women need men less the wants gets greater weight, so they choose the same men and even share them. Some women even pay for their lifestyle lol. Of course, until men let it all go to shit and let civilization fall, but I suspect many men fear homelessness to let society rotten, they still have mom and siblings. But eventually they will and women will have to carry more weight just as during the pandemic, which restaurants became way slower and still are and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:28 AM |
| 5 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsThat has been a disaster for some countries. Some poor Asian countries hate when American men take their women or treat them as prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:23 AM |
| 0 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsHypergamy add pressure to the Y chromosome because fewer and fewer men are chosen. https://evolution.berkeley.edu/bottlenecks-and-founder-effects/ https://ncse.ngo/naked-truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:22 AM |
| 8 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsAs things become more equal, the equality paradox arises. In equality, and women having all resources, men become a luxury so they pick only the best men or even share them. Women also become sexual objects to men, but since only those men have access to them most men end dry. This article explained how it happened in Sweden... when women are free to be themselves, they return to more traditionally female jobs and tasks, and hypergamy is also part of their nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:20 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareUBI has proven not to work as expected in experiments so far, and it just makes governments dependents on companies instead of people, as companies will provide the taxes. So companies will have a greater say than people. No, billionaires will not pay more taxes as they are stateless and they can change their circumstances faster than law, but countries will tax their companies to pay for it, so they will be the main citizens. Credit score will soon or later be abused by governments and parties … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILD100%, also more than ever it will be important if women have more sex with fewer men, the DNA bottlenecks will be huge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:06 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareFeminism is usually as other progressive ideas... they reproduce by brainwashing the youth because they don't have children, they hate families, they are mentally ill, etc. Very sad their mind virus is so widespread, but the faster they die off, hopefully slowly and painfully for doing this, the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:05 AM |
| – | Let's share some revenge fantasiesI guess poorer friends can borrow the machine? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareBut many women say they don't like sex so much and see it as a chore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareIt seems like a reasonable arrangement for older people without a partner. It may be the solution for many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:39 AM |
| 3 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareI agree that a lot of us will die alone, but dying alone is a thing but being alone for decades before dying, I assume, feels way worse. No one caring for you, no one visiting you, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:37 AM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchAt least your reasons are genuine and if he wants to get married too, go for it and be blessed. The main problem is when women often date men for years expecting him to ask when clearly that will not happen. It would be better for them to drop their expectancies on marriage and enjoy a lot of benefits of it without the legal binding, or just find another man that actually wants marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:36 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareDon't worry. Even if it is a nightmare, it is better to live through it younger than older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:31 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareRevenge fantasy idea: A nurse in the nursing house read their own archived posts hating babies in the childfree subreddit muahahahahah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:30 AM |
| 4 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareIt is true that all taxpayers vote for their own best interests, but also it is true that often those interests include family and kids and wife/husband. If you remove that, the interests will be just me me me, even at the cost of more collective interests. Most kids become useful members of society, or at least not net negatives. That is why government want population increase, since most of them will grow to work and pay taxes too. It is a risk your kid become a loser criminal, but it is a ris… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:30 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareSure, and in fact everyone with children or not can do a lot for those years. Maybe learn a skill, make friends, move close to most family members, have children now if they want to, save assets and land, etc. It will probably be ugly to society but it does not have to be ugly time for you as an individual if you prepare for the worse income, which is never a bad investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareAgree, and the thing is that a lot of these things can be discussed from a distance and we can do things about it, like learning skills so when we are old we can work on our home or if we need cash, we can save money or assets somehow, we can create relationships with our family even if we never get into a marriage, etc. So the good thing is that we can do a lot as individuals meanwhile, the sad thing is that society will probably end worse for a while before it get better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:26 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareAnd then I die. So what. It will happen anyway. If no one finds you, it will likely be a very painful death. Women already see men as a threat and a burden and an enemy, and constitute the majority of nurses. What makes you think it's not already happening. Have you seen latest mortality gaps. A good chunk of nurses seem to be sociopathic. Many probably deserve jail for how they treat patients, but police will likely never find out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:23 AM |
| 0 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareMost women opting to be alone seem to be just coping that the chad did not want them. Nothing wrong with that, but they did not intend to be alone, they just found themselves alone when chad never came back and married them. So it is just coping, and proof of that is how much they NEED to say how HAPPY they are alone. Bitch, I'm happy with a few things and don't feel the need to convince others I am happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:22 AM |
| 5 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareIDK, too many women in their deep 30s don't have any child and a good chunk of them is already sterile for just age alone. I don't think that can be fixed after that point except with very expensive procedures that may increase fertility for a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:21 AM |
| 3 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareSounds romantic and nice, but I suspect most likely outcome you will fall and break a bone and slowly die for days, suffering. Loneliness is not pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:19 AM |
| 9 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareYes, but most of them were married and probably had children at some point. Imagine dying after living half a century single and without a family to care for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:18 AM |
| -3 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareMen usually leave their wives if they get sick. I was readying this is not actually true but a misunderstanding of the data because men die younger so many older women don't have a husband to care for them. Men also usually contribute to the sick by financial support and rather hire someone to care for the wife, which is as valid as direct care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:18 AM |
| 3 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareThe thing is, with no children to pay for, people’s pensions will be nice n fat ready to afford good care for the rest of their life, they don’t need to rely on family because they’ve invested financially into their own care and will have contracts in place so their every need is taken care of. You have no idea how the pension system works. It pays younger people to work for you. If there are no enough young people you will have them to pay more to convince them. Your pension will go dry fast be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:16 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareEventually being single and childless will become so normal that the shaming stops. I agree it would eventually stop but only because those people die off, probably faster because loneliness and lack of family care. The shaming is already not there as much as people assume. In most cases the shaming is just parents concerned about this, which means their intention is not to shame anyone. The pension system will completely buckle and a generation of older people who didn't invest in a pension wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:12 AM |
| 6 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareWomen at that point would probably create a bachelor tax for men to pay for their lifestyle, and stupid men and government would support them because they are the greatest share of taxpayers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:11 AM |
| 3 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareWhat makes you think this is a conspiracy theory? For a conspiracy theory to be as such we need hypothetical conspirators. This is just a path that our society may take collectively, but it may as well be that we are all wrong and all goes fine for some miracle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:10 AM |
| -2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareImagine a perfect AI waifu, even married men would get one so their aging and fatting wives don't feel the need to have sex every day. Imagine a robot waifu with vibrating vagina!!! Add artificial wombs and imagine how amazing it would be! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:08 AM |
| 2 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareWell, of course all those problems exist. My argument is that this social change will likely make them even worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:06 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareMaybe we will see the equivalent of monasteries and nunneries. Maybe it will become very normal for unmarried family members to live with family members who have kids, and provide childcare and free labour in return. It would be a nice thing, but it seems like a very deep cultural change. I know that our grandpas started the trend of individualism instead houses with big families, but so far that trend has not stopped and even if it does it probably will be down for a while more and a lot of dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:06 AM |
| 1 | If the future implies that 1/3 of people will remain unpartnered for their older age, it will be a nightmareFirst you do understand that people who are married don't die at the same time right? Like the odds are that one of you will outlive the other by years to decades. I understand your argument, but this trend of loneliness, relationships as a joke, etc. seem that will make it even worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:04 AM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchI wonder if civil unions are kind of like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 05:11 PM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchEven supposing you are right and the legal mess is at bad, at least you did not spend thousands on a wedding or marriage issues. Again, it just proves that marriage is now watered down from its very purpose and it makes sense that consequences of marriage are moving out of marriage if also you don't need to marry for the same benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:53 PM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchFor men marriage is the ultimate stamp of approval from his family, friends and society at large. Because if he got married then he is not an incel loser who can't get a woman. That is a good point I did not consider, but I'm sure men can prove that without marriage. I mean, if you are always dating or with a forever gf is almost obvious you are not an incel. In a sense men sometimes respect sexually successful men that don't marry because they are more free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:52 PM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchThat is good for you if it works for you, but on average women are very picky and selective and totally unempathic to men who they don't like. I mean, it is nature, but it is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:50 PM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchYes, and that does not make alimony any less disgusting. It is an outdated safety net. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: It is sad that it has become so normalized to not settle down until you're 30+There are too many motherfuckers on this planet Start with yourself LOL. Funny how anti-birth idiots see younger full of energy babies as a problem, not the upcoming bitter old childless people that suck everyone's healthcare. You have to cut population on the old side, not the younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:48 PM |
| – | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchJust pointing out they do initialize divorce more even wanting to marry more. Would not be easier for women if they did not marry? Apparently they cannot think that ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchI'm sure she stayed with the husband because he compensated with a greater income as a provider in such arrangement. Why does he have the obligation to keep paying his part after a divorce if she is not contributing anymore to his life? If she has no sexual and housing obligations after divorce, the husband shall have no financial obligations either. See why we think marriage is problematic? Alimony made sense when women were unable to work, not anymore. No one is forcing women to stay at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchFor your second scenario.. the homemaker washes her husband's ass for 15 years, breastfeeds their kids, cooks all of his meals, cleans their home...for alimony for 2 years? Sweet deal! That argument is stupid. It is like saying a company shall be keep paying you after you move to another because all the hours you put while you were working on it. Also if women accept that arrangement that is their problem. Women are free to work and make their own money last time I checked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchYour ideas of marriage make metaphysical sense, "bonds", "love", etc. and I'm not debating that, if marriage is for you and you want to take the risk and so the man is, go for it. The issue is that often people attribute to marriage a lot of stuff, almost like magical, that has nothing to do with marriage, such as love, commitment, fidelity, etc. Those things can be in marriage and plenty of marriages exist without them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchAgree, which is another reason to not marry... it is easier to break up if differences raise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:19 AM |
| 0 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchGod is fake, heaven and hell is fake Add marriage. At least true religious people genuinely believe in what they believe, you are just trying to convince yourself marriage still matters knowing well it is an obsolete arrangement with lots of liabilities and almost all benefits accessible outside of it. list from here; Shitty incentives for marriage that are not worth it and ask for greater responsibilities, not worth it. Almost all visitation rights and such can be arranged by just consent and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchOk. So you kind of just said there is no reason for a woman to be unmarried and a homemaker. If she considers herself traditional in that sense, I don't see why she cannot be traditional on aspects of marriage. Marriage made sense in traditional arrangements after all, so I'm sure some couples may make such marriage work. But most realistically, inflation is high and families need at least two incomes. So I don't see a lot of reasons for women to see such benefits of marriage in that aspect, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchWhen adults begin a relationship, they have a talk about this sort of stuff. If you're in a relationship with someone making these demands, it's 100% your fault. It is not so easy. It happens the same with a lot of childfree people who agree to have no kids and then a few years into marriage one part changes her or his mind and tension is created. Talking about issues like these can help, but often people don't really know a lot about what they want until way later into the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchWhy would it not be split equally? Would not it wiser to split it by contribution of each during marriage? Regardless, the issue of marriage is that it sometimes even joins assets that were not acquired during marriage. Giving half of it to the other part is not only unfair, but basically a legal confiscation of private property. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchI would not trust marriage rates because you only need only one part to say "no" for it to not happen. It would be better to know what they think about marriage, maybe they are giving marriage more importance and therefore leaving it for "the One" which may actually backfire for them. If there is something worse than people marrying not thinking, it is marrying overthinking about the idea of marriage as the ideal end. Many people may be leaving marriage for later and find out there is no special… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:55 AM |
| -3 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchIf you plan on having kids it is much better for you to be married than shacking up. I never understood this. Divorce can be traumatic for kids, not just because the separation, but the legal mess and conflicts after it. At least if there is no legal marriage for the separation the process is arguably simpler as it is focused only on the kids (which would be, married or not, so it makes no difference). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:53 AM |
| 0 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchWhy do you think women's labor is worthless? Cringe. If women's labor is so worth, then it makes no sense to have laws giving them money as reward after marriage. Those laws only made sense like 300 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchAnd even then, in many states, if you’ve been playing house for long enough, it doesn’t matter that you never officially got married. That is sad, but I wonder if that is the same rights of marriage or more limited for couples. If they are more limited, marriage may still be worse after all. I do hear about religious marriages that are not registered legally, but if a judge knows he just declares them married. Weird how the state is so eager to make people be legally married even when it is such… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchI don't understand what you're saying about sick people, but if men do not have a woman in their lives telling them to go to the doctor they die much quicker. Agreed that may be a factor, but that is mostly personal responsibility like people who choose to smoke. I still don't understand what marriage has to do with having a loving woman together with you, You don't need marriage for that. You tried to make a whiny point about sick men, but it's also incorrect. Men divorce their sex wives signif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:48 AM |
| 0 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchIf you are a homemaker, for your BOYFRIEND, and your boyfriend dumps you, you have NO legal recourse or financial support. It would make sense women would be worse after that if they were not able to work and study as they were years ago, but women today even have more jobs and sometimes higher paid jobs than men their age, so I don't see that as a problem. If you are a homemaker, and your HUSBAND divorces you, you can get around 50% of the assets. Couples living together can have shared assets … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:46 AM |
| 1 | American capitalism has destroyed datingI disagree but I agree that some billionares are basically lords in the West so I get your point. Just pointing out that non capitalistic societies already have a hierarchy anyway, so it is no surprise capitalism also has it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:41 AM |
| -2 | Both genders would do better in the dating market if women did not insist on marriage and weddings so muchUnmarried men have significantly worse health outcomes than married men Women don't date sick men, while sick women still have plenty of options to date. Just as women don't date men who earn less than them, who are short, who are not in the same race of them or white, etc. they just don't date ill men either. Wow what a shock! It just proves how shallow women are, not how amazing women are to make magically the man last longer. Men regularly beg women to marry them Men are expected to ask women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 03:38 AM |
| 2 | American capitalism has destroyed datingBoth suck, let’s find a happy medium. I agree, but remember the happy medium can have only the halves that benefit only one part. For example, systems in the West in capitalistic systems usually have social support that overwhelmly benefits women and children, so the best of capitalism and the best of socialism goes to them. This is necessary but also can be abused against some classes and demographics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:34 AM |
| 3 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?Totally agree. Unless they actually spend money they have on games or they take away quality time from their wife or gf, playing videogames does not have to be a problem and women can play too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:25 AM |
| 1 | Why can lots of women not accept that a guy isn't into them?In general (not always the case) I've found the more attractive they are the better the personality lmao. Yes, I would expect the opposite... if attractive women are harassed and asked for so much, I would expected them to be bitter and very cynical of men, but often it is unattractive or average girls that have the "I'm the queen" attitude. I wonder if maybe guys hit them in unattractive girls just to practice or access their better-looking friends and that may make them bitter? Or maybe they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:24 AM |
| 3 | American capitalism has destroyed datingBut that is the issue. Marxist states often rely on a military infrastructure, so those with guns have all power. Billionaires have all power with money. Both are bad, but the first is less flexible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:20 AM |
| 3 | Why can lots of women not accept that a guy isn't into them?I have not had your experience exactly, but I realized a lot of women assume I'm hitting on them for just asking them common sense questions or explaining them something in my work. It is kind of stupid, as they look at you like "how dare you be hitting on me". Bitch, you are a fat whale. No one is into you unless they are very desperate. Sometimes my lesbian neighbor hit on me, which is concerning as she is hot and beautiful, but also I fear her partner may flat my car tires so I ignore her. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:07 AM |
| 6 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?I can't blame them. Reality sucks for a lot of things they cannot even control, and worse than having a lazy life is putting effort to realize it was to get nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:04 AM |
| 8 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?Or scrolling her insta and getting fat LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:02 AM |
| 8 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?How do you miss out something you did not even get the chance to get anyway? For most of those men it was always over. Women openly admit they find average men disgusting. They being a little cleaner and better dressed may make them get an ungrateful resentful single mom, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 02:01 AM |
| 5 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?I find it funny that videogames were first blamed by the religious for being satanic, then by the Right for promoting shootings, then by the Left for being sexist and now apparently, they are blamed by women for keeping men from them, while the fact is that women don't find those men attractive in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:59 AM |
| 10 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?It may work for some guys, but for most men it is not really worth the effort. Sure, they may get a divorcee with tattoos and be a step-father, and later get an ugly divorce and lose access to his children, but hey, at least he is not playing video games, right? At least video games and porn are unconditional pleasures. Women don't want average men, they actually feel disgusted by them. Men improving will not change face genetics and a lot of strong habits. They will either get desperate to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:57 AM |
| 25 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?I realized if women would punish all men as a class, they would just because how top 20% of men treat them. They basically want to take away or at least shame the only entertainment some men have in this hellish reality they live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:55 AM |
| 2 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?However it’s also not true that if these guys gave up the video games they’d get sex or a girlfriend. Absolutely, but I observed that women don't care about that, but rather about their husbands having leisure time with friends. Kind of odd... if the man is giving all you want, working, giving you time, what is wrong with them playing videogames with bros? It seems like female entitlement to men's time and freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:53 AM |
| 3 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?This was actually a theory of my husband. We have a lot of friends who are in that category of men who are near 30-year-old virgins, generally unhealthy, and some are dealing with various mental health issues. Nothing to do with videogames, they are just a scape from variables and situations that those men cannot control. Why do anything useful at all if we are taxed to dead, we will never retire and women fuck only a few men? What is the point of going out and dating and spending thousands on d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:52 AM |
| 6 | American capitalism has destroyed datingNot only that, but hypergamy in the West was only possible by socialist policy in the West, to pay for women and children and their needs. Nothing wrong with that, but that policy is closer to socialism paid by capitalism, which makes men as rather sponsors of the state rather than of their own families. This means the state and women get wealth from men but most men don't get the family bounds and love and sex from women. So women basically marry the state. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:49 AM |
| 7 | American capitalism has destroyed datingLook how many women Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba, fucked. Go google it. Now tell me how much bad capitalism is compared to dictators having all money and power and therefore women fucking the few men on top of the party, to get a portion of bread. Or look what women did when Venezuela went to shit. Not saying capitalism is perfect, but believe me, it could be so much worse for hypergamy, and even basic human needs under some marxist systems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:46 AM |
| – | SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILLWell, a woman being beaten by her partner is consenting to be abused if she returns to him. Maybe it is a kink. Maybe people infantilizing are the government trying to use tax payers to stop what those women have chosen, which is to be beaten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:43 AM |
| 2 | SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILLIn a sense it is women using men for resources, entertainment, status, etc. and barely giving any sex for all that effort, using it to manipulate men into relationships they are not interested on. Ironic how they talk so much about communication LOL. They play along and agree with you and then complain you did not do what they imagine you to do in their mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:43 AM |
| 1 | SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILLthe problem is that guys are lying they want a serious LTR only to get sex and bolt, if a girl is consenting to sex that implies a LTR then she is being "used" As long as sex was consented, her conditions and assumptions and expectancies are irrelevant unless explicit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:42 AM |
| 1 | SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILLDon't be fooled. Women are happy being used, in fact that is their erotica about. They are just not honest enough to admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:41 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allyou can't base your broad generalizations on merely your self pity. I'm not, in fact this is not my case. My generalizations are based on observations from a distance, broken marriages, borderline people snipping for it, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:38 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allWomen should make all men wait for sex to filter out guys who are just looking for something casual. In theory I would agree, but in practice the most desired men are not put in wait, they get sex quickly, which just makes average men more resentful, skeptic and cynical of women for any kind of relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:37 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allBut thank you for letting me know that men everywhere I go are looking to have sex. I thought women already knew that? That is why they don't trust nice guys, because they don't express their sexuality and women know they still have it, so it makes them look deceiving. But take in mind that although sex is very important for men that does not mean they don't see you as a person or as a friend or as company too. They just see sex as another fundamental attribute, just as personality and compatibi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:25 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allDo you think you might like to share a bed with someone you love and trust and who takes care of you? I'd like that, but I also know that it is likely that person would not even give a chance to me in the first place, if I was uglier, or poorer, or similar. Most love is conditional to initial circumstances that some people cannot have, so I don't get why frequent sex is so controversial as another condition to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:23 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allOk, I'll honesty consider your point, but by observing it seems nothing of that would be there without sex. Even common stuff like children, family, a house together, would probably not be there without sex as central in some way. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems many people want to pretend this is not the case but act as it is. I guess it is like films. People who are more likely to commit crimes in real life (men, some social classes, etc.) are often put as victims in films, and people who are le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:19 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allYou have to stop saying sex is a big component of love because women don’t see it that way That is very unfortunate :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:15 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allSex is the only pleasure men seek? No, but it is the main one, by waaay far. Other drive is them being fathers, but obviously that comes after sex. In fact men who report low libido also report less interest to make less money, realize more goals, hobbies, etc. Carl Jung and Freud noticed this many years ago. Yet this is actually a good thing... this creates the surplus that creates civilization that allows women to be freer than ever. Higher libido in men is a feature, not a bug. So in a sense … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:14 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allI'm talking in the context of a relationship with the opposite gender. Women can provide many things to men in a relationship, but only thing they cannot be replaced by friends and society and institutions is frequent sex. That is what I mean that women are only good for that in that limited context... men can get emotional support for friends, they can get their house cleaned by a worker or use machines, they can boy cooked food, etc. Women are increasingly useless for them as wives so sex beco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:08 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allAllow me to focus just on this for now, please. Your second unqualified assumption is that women don't have anything to offer men besides sex. I mean, not anything unique from the female gender, sorry if I did not clarify. Emotional support can be obtained from friends (even male friends), machines do most of the house labor, etc. What unique thing can men only get from a partner woman, beside frequent sex? What else that cannot a friend or service provide? But you don't have to feel bad, becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:02 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allI saw a few couples enjoying the sunset today. How can I tell that these men are only there for sex? I guess a lot of those guys would rather just playing videogames if there was not a woman there. Sure men do a lot for sex, but that does not mean they don't enjoy the process or the woman as a friend. But men do way more for a partner than a friend, and the difference is sex or promise of sex. Sex is very fundamental and important, especially for men. It only becomes an issue when you assume it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:56 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allThat is good your marriage is so solid, but honestly that is more the aspect of friendship of the marriage than the sexual dynamic. Plenty of people care for sick friends. I'm talking more on the romantic and sexual and dating dynamic. It is unlikely, for example, for disabled men to find love because women don't want crippled men. Same for autistic men. Men often dislike fat women. See how the dynamic is more superficial in this issue between genders? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:53 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allMen are often more polygamous and women more hypergamous*, monogamy seems to be an in between, a consensus. Do you think that is a reasonable assumption from me or am I missing something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:51 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allEven if libido decreased, men still have higher libido or at least more desperation for sex than women. I just hope porn can fill the gap for good, and finally men are not slaves of these desires to be used by government and women, but that is unlikely to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:46 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allI'm talking generally, not about you exactly, but you gave an example of your own case, yet I'm not trying to judge you. Many men would have no problem with waiting for sex, but our culture has been overridden by hook ups and hypersexualization as a response to the past century's purity culture. Think about it: If some men are getting sex for just existing and being tall and muscular, is not it natural for other men that are not getting that kind of sex to feel left behind or envious? Is not tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:45 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allSexual interest can and is indeed part of the love men have for women. In a sense it is a most honest form of love because women's love is too abstract into the emotional. The issue I see is that women often do see sex as nastier or lesser than emotional love, which is weird because the point of romantic love is to get two people to have sex, make a new life, make a family. Evolutionary and socially speaking, of course, there are plenty of exceptions. If women did not see sex as just a way to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:40 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allYou would not needto assume anything about me if you actually had good arguments. My argument is simple, read the TLDR. You may have a good argument and actually refute mine, but so far you are just trying to kill the messenger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:36 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allIf they agreed to be with someone who's waiting until marriage, aren't they "wasting" their own time? They are, but by the same token they are being played because they are still expected to provide romantic bullshit and chocolates and such in the meantime. She must really be very valuable or they must not have any other options anyway, or the opposite, they have so many options as side sex that they can wait for you. Pick your poison. It may work if you are religious when the significance of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:35 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allLove is just a method of nature to make people stay together, have sex, and have a family. There are other types of love, but romantic love is generally it. But I don't understand why you seem to believe that is a bad thing? I mean, if sex is needed for reproduction, it is basically something sacred, it creates humans. Very weird how it is seen as nasty or lesser than love itself by supposedly tolerant and progressive women. Sexless bedrooms seem to be more common when one part has a lot to lose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:32 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allI'm not saying love is not real, my lady. As I said, love is an emotion that comes and goes. I'm just saying that sex is way more important now than ever or men, as it is one of the few things not being automated or flatten by technology and social changes. Prove of this is how sexualized men are today, how important porn is, and how women use their sexuality to exploit men off their money online with just the illusion of sex. Prove of this is that your bf probably will not stick around if there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:26 AM |
| – | Men increasingly interested in sex only just reflect the reality that genders don't need each other at allGood for you and hope it works for you, plenty of men are open to commitment, but sex must be on the table at some point. Sadly, it is likely you will make those men lose a lot of time for nothing and they will don't give a fuck anymore about waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayFair point, partners have become more as an accessory. The main issue is male libido, which is disproportionally higher than women's, but they don't "need" women themselves, just sex. No wonder why so many men want women for sex, if that is the only thing that men need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayTo be fair, I don't have any empathy for women that choose to be with abusers and no tax payers shall be used to try to change that if they are freely in such arrangement. So it is fair, sadly I have to pay for women to be treated as children for their stupid dating decisions and their bastards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayAs a top earning man, I don’t really get much in the way of contractual benefits. I participate in the same dating market with everyone else. Why do you assume that? I mean, it is obvious women are much interested in high earning men for their wealth, even well intended women who just want the best for their children, and often openly admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayThat's the thing, most of those money is worthless without consumers and workers. That is why they can pay taxes with no issues. Women are just paying with their sexuality (having sex with the rich) and men with their labor (dead end jobs), both for inflated money that don't really reflect the actual value of most men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:06 PM |
| -3 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same waySlavery in the past was a social class, but today slavery seem to be "distributed" in the same way benefits are. People working deadend low wages jobs, absurd interest rates, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:05 PM |
| -1 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayOpen sex market + Hypergamy = Sex for only top men, genetically and financially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayYes, eunuchs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:03 PM |
| -4 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayGotta love arguments where men want to take away women’s free will by eliminating the “free sexual market” just so they can force women to have sex with them. You can also invert the argument Gotta love arguments where women want to take away men money by supporting the government just for men to serve them as money cows and free labor for them with no retribution | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:01 PM |
| 3 | Women still need men, maybe more than ever, but not in the same wayNo, women are just voting for their own hypergamous interest. They don't really think or have any empathy for average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDBut if you consider that women have evolved concealed ovulation to make it easier to pursue the sexual strategy of cuckolding men, it becomes less surprising that their psychology has also been shaped to allow women to pursue this strategy more effectively. It is very sad, but by the same logic men also developed and found systems to counter it, and DNA testing, if it is an available tech, shall also be an option. Sadly, as women have so much voting power and the side of activists and other poli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDBabies are tested anyway for TSH for thyroid issues and other conditions, that may affect less than 1% of babies yet that is important. Even if less than 1% of babies are legitimate it is also an issue of healthcare and mental health for both the kid and the father as they grow up and eventually may find out. IDK about rape kits but it has nothing to do with this, as DNA tests to compare are a thing, and semen samples and DNA database of rapists are another. This literally don't take ANY women's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 08:07 PM |
| -1 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDI wonder the consequences of not singing it, and what if they sing it but later found they are not the fathers but they are hooked up for 18 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:36 AM |
| 3 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDpaternity is determined by marriage in every state in the union, not paternity tests. This is not true. Courts still use paternity tests already, if they were irrelevant for paternity then they would not be used for such purpose and would not have any valid information. It is true marriage was established to prevent this, but since marriage today is basically a joke and there is no consequences for cheating or paternity fraud, it is fair for a mechanism to establish paternity as early as possibl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:35 AM |
| 9 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDThank you for understanding. Paternity test at birth don't violate women's rights nor take any of their rights so ever. I don't understand why more women don't support it. Some women say they don't care, but if they have voting power then it is also an issue for them as they also have power on a say on such things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:31 AM |
| 6 | Arguments against Paternity Test at Birth are WILDThis is what should change, not the mandatory paternity test. So you agree that men shall be able at any time to stop child support if proven that the kid is not his? I would support that, except for the emotional connection with the child, but it makes sense meanwhile if paternity test at birth is not on the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Men, do you genuinely like/liked your female partner?It depends on the man, but you don't need to 100% like the person you love or want to fuck. In fact, it would make no sense to assume such thing because in that case no one would be together. Women usually have interests that men consider boring, and often women don't dwell in men's hobbies. Of course, these are generalities. Some people do not like their partners at all but still prefer that to loneliness or dealing with themselves or their own issues. Men usually have this problem as they ofte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 12:19 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedAmerican Men are in trouble, and these guys will drag us down with them if we can't reverse the trend. The irony is that that is the trend that is easiest to reverse and yet also the only thing we don't want to do because we assume men are privileged. Men just need a motivation. Unlike women and children, they are not asking for maternity care of similar, but a place in society beyond just working and paying taxes. Of course, society will probably find this too late and honesty it is better if j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 01:23 PM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedI get being lonely, and frustrated, and even angry that life isn’t turning out the way you hoped. The fact is however, blaming society/women for not giving you your just rewards isn’t actually going to make those rewards appear on your doorstep That rather seems to be closer to the attitude society has to those men rather than the other way around. Most of those games are just eating and playing video games, not caring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 03:20 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedThe number one occupation for women is registered nurse. Women do gross jobs, critical when shit hits the fan. Women can do any job men can, but we often find men doing traditionally female jobs, such as nursing. Meanwhile, almost no woman doing some vital jobs that only men do, such as fixing electric lines. My point is that men are more flexible as contributors of the labor market, they also don't get pregnant, and they can work for more years in intensive physical work than women. That makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedLet me be more specific. Women are valuable as any other human, but value specific for their gender it is indeed sex and being mothers, because men cannot give heterosexual sex nor give birth, so that is what makes women vital in their own right. Still that does not mean women are not valuable on other aspects, but those other aspects are as valuable in men too. Men can cook, clean, work on anything... so why would they need women if not for those things? But don't worry, this is a reductionist … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:52 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedShame and ostricizing is unhealthy for the mental health of those men. If we are concerned about racism and sexism affecting people, imagine telling people on their faces they are worhless for just not doing what society expects from them. The irony is that a lot of people who do this to these men, who are often suffering from mental health issues, are themselves supposedly tolerant and loving accepting people. I wonder if at the end they just want people to pay taxes to finance their own life a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:46 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedSeriously, who gives a fuck if a stranger things you’re useless? People are judgmental and there’s nothing you can do about that. True, but I think shaming and dehumanizing people make the problem even worse, like fat shaming. Is not it weird that a society concerned about micro-aggressions is so aggressive against men for just not holding up to their social expectancies? It is almost comically evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:43 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedFair enough. Sadly that is why getting a car, going to college, etc. is almost always guaranteed to cost money or debt. They know how important those things are for people so they make sure they spend the most money there, crippling their growth as free individuals for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:40 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedPrecisely my point of this point... those "useless" men are not valued as people, but only as contributors, that is why they are called worthless. Also weird it is you compare mothers to incubators. That is far more dehumanizing than assuming women must contribute having children, which may be an unrealistic and paternalist request, but not dehumanizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:36 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedIf cultural genocide is a stretch of the term that is acceptable, so shall be my stretch be acceptable. But yes, the idea is often for society to get rid of a class of men that is seen as a threat for their security. For most of history that has been the case... unmarriageable single men have been seen as a threat. Fortunately that is not the case thanks to porn and other pacifiers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:34 AM |
| 3 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedMy criticism is that some people are basically trying to serve the system by trying to shame those men into working stuff they hate, without anything in return for them except their worthless approval. If a society is not serving you, it makes moral sense for you to not contribute to it more than required for you to survive. Sorry I was not clear, to be fair, my post was rather a rant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:32 AM |
| 0 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedNo, but those things are very important too. We would not exist without them. Women who have children may not contribute directly, but taxpayers, future workers, future husbands and wives are being born... in a sense, fertility is the biggest contribution that can be given. Unless there is an issue of overpopulation (which currently it isn't), then humans are valuable, on demand and usually contribute more than they take. Otherwise society would not exist if humans took more than they produce. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedI think that "useless" men, if they get a purpose and a reason to contribute to society, may do the most dangeroous and most disgusting jobs with no problem, jobs that not require much training but women will NEVER do. In fact, if you go back in history you find even in hard times women did not those jobs, though would rather sell their body or marry those men to survive, not work on that. The cherry on top is just very recent. AI is replacing job from top down, which means humans may find thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:26 AM |
| 1 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedWhat interests me is that we now have communities of men and women who basically partake in what is essentially seen as self flagellation. Self-flagellation... interesting idea. I wonder if the lack of rituals of atonement in current society is making them have a psychology like this, just as the lack of passing rituals is often quotes as the lacking signal for boys to become men, which means many men simply stay as children because there is no signal or feedback from society to grow up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:22 AM |
| 2 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedIt is not weird to think those men could be drafter as cannon meat, which is de-facto genocide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:19 AM |
| 5 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedI hate to use the term useless but I had to to criticize the usage of the term. My argument is that if people used the same criteria they use for men to claim these men are useless, such as not having a family or getting a professional job or not earning enough, then a lot of women would have to be also considered "useless". Of course, saying that about women is not as acceptable as dehumanizing men for just choosing to not contribute more than necessary to a society that don't welcome them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:18 AM |
| 0 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedThe idea is that men have a broader skillset in the labor industry than women, so if "useless" men have to be reintegrated they are more useful to society than reintegrated women working spreadsheet jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:15 AM |
| 4 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedI had to use the nasty words because sadly there are no better terms than those dehumanizing terms. My summary for your: What is useless or not is relative, and society is not entitled to those men's labor and sacrifice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:14 AM |
| 3 | The phrase "most men are useless" is extremely dehumanizing and should be discouragedMen are expendable sadly. Always has been like this, men can die in the millions in wars, have more at work deaths, higher suicide rate, lower life expectancy but no one cares and life continues. This is called redundancy. For example, a doctor dying is not an issue for healthcare because there are other doctors. However, being a doctor is extremely important to society today. If all doctors or most of them died, there would be a greater problem than if, for example, all celebrities and influenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneHonestly, though, all I really need is opportunity. I do feel good when I get to actually socialise with people, it's just super disappointing that it's so rare and that it ends so quickly. I totally get you. The only friend I have (which is rather my favorite person) invited me out with his group of friends one time. It was such an alien world to me, but I enjoyed it. Sadly he lives far and he rarely comes. I had a taste of going out with interesting, funny and surprisingly smart social people.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 04:15 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneAgreed, but often relationships provide the stability and environment for ideal company. Although if it goes wrong it can also get ugly, that is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 04:12 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI did not see it that way, first time I find this perspective... women trying to make themselves ugly or undesirable to avoid male gaze. It may be a way to balance out beauty to keep guys away for a while... it makes sense. I honestly had no idea, I thought the reason is that they wanted to look unique in their own way, which may explain part of it, but what you say is reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 04:11 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI think you have a point I did not consider. As analogy, sure, not having food is bad but not knowing that your food is full of shit until it is too late also sucks and may be as bad in many aspects. I cannot empathize with women and they cannot empathize with men's situation, but we can agree that the subjective experience of both may as well be hellish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 04:09 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneIt helped me a lot to practice Dr. Hawkins' Letting Go methods, but he is a little wo-wo. There are many other forms of letting go of those negative emotions, that is how I could live on and work without pills. But I understand some people need pills and psychiatric help way more than me and it is not their fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:42 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI agree women worked, but most essential jobs and wealth producing jobs were taken by men. Most inventions, raw material, etc. came from men, just as today. Women usually prefer more maintenance industries and caring for children and the elder, which are also important things, but just as today they are regarded as keeping the social wealth rather than making it. The downside is that men's jobs were (still are) riskier, nastier and often less stable than female jobs. But I do recognize that this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:40 AM |
| 3 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneSure, being hit can be annoying, but at least it implies someone desires you and recognizes you exist. Imagine not even having even that. Those men are not your friends, but they may as well put you in social situation, give you free stuff, provide you with attention supply, etc. and they can be even used as step get actual good men, which seems that women do when they cheat with the friend of their boyfriend (which is very common). Not saying this is a good or moral thing, but women have more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:37 AM |
| 3 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneSome men are so sexually desperate than even deformed fat females receive more attention than average men. It is a like a kind of sexual inflation in the dating market. Sure, those women may just be seen as "fleshlights" but even that is enough for those women to get attention, free stuff and some social interaction, even if it is not very genuine. Still I agree, men should take responsibility on their own and do better. Just pointing out how privilege most women are to start a social circle. Pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:34 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneYes, and I think that inequality of sexes just comes by labor. In the past most important labor required strength and men had it, so they had all power. As we shifted to service industry, the power became more equal. The "oppression" itself was just the circumstances and the chances to get job given you physical traits and conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Younger men cannot try harder on dating without being desperateIDK, there is a genetic and looks floor. No matter how much you improve, if you don't have that minimum that others have by default with no effort, it is over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:28 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneLet's hope we just wake up and this is just a shitty dream or just a simulation while we are just truly cosmic being just trying to understand loneliness or some shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneAgree neediness is what turns people off, although I don't think most lonely men are needy, they just are just depressed and defeated... which I guess also puts people off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:25 AM |
| 5 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life alone...you are unhappy being by yourself which means you will be unhappy being with someone else This also makes no sense. If people in relationship are usually also happy with themselves, then why they choose to be with another person that costs money and time? It makes no sense. Either relationships add happiness and that is why people have and stay in them, or not but somehow people still choose the burden of relationships just because. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:01 AM |
| 3 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneIt is all a vicious cycle, the more people you know the better you make friends, the worse you do the more lonely you become. Women have the privilege to being desired by men so men care for them, invite them out, give them free stuff, etc. Women also generally don't see women as threats. That helps them establish those relationships. I agree with you women are good and better at establishing relationships but only because men and other women consider them more agreeable and favor them first, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:57 AM |
| 5 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneYou described my life. I think we may have autism or something. I wonder if there would be a medication for this shit, not to change what cannot be changed, but rather to not care so much and allow ourselves to just live by and let this shitty life finally end by itself, without frustrating our families by getting desperate and ending it all ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:54 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneJust pointing out that women are granted more social connections and social favors for just being women, and I'm arguing that as men struggle they are more resilient than women for issues such as mental illness and loneliness, which is what usage of antidepressants and euthanasia suggests. Are men more resilient to fewer social networks because they grow with less of them or do they choose more loneliness and isolation because they can deal with it easier? I have no idea. This is why I don't thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:49 AM |
| 3 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneWomen outlive their male partners and typically have companionship from their children, friends, and community in old age because they invest in those relationships. This is very true. Still, many women today don't have any children even being married or waited too long and find out that they are not infertile. Usually women establish the strongest relationships with their children and grandchildren. I think women are only more social because they are not considered a threat. Women also don't ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:24 AM |
| 8 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI don't think it is gaslighting itself, it is more like coping or encouraging us to come assuming our loneliness is OK, a gift, or powerful or some shit like that. Also I don't have a lot of problem with loneliness as much, but I do understand the frustration and on top of that people downplaying that is not helping. You can be all "happy by yourself" but if you want a relationship and you cannot get it, then there will always be some background frustration, resentment or malaise because life di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:18 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life alonePlenty of people who get together in their thirties break up before their 60s though. Agreed, but most of those relationships are very... superficial. No future for children, families don't see such marriages as equally important as those of younger people because there is no future of children. If one of them has children, they usually are against the relationship or skeptic of it. I know this because my mom married again later in life. Even worse, I notice people who marry this late were alrea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:15 AM |
| 4 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI honestly tried to practice but there is no entry point. What I'm supposed to do? Go alone to a night club and introduce myself to a random person which is probably with a group of friends? If we barely have friends at work, what makes me think that will work for friendship in a night? Only groups of friends seem to go out, single and lonely people don't really have options to go on their own as their friends married or moved on. Social gatherings seem to be only for people that already have fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:13 AM |
| 1 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life alonePeople downplay the dying alone narrative because it's typically used to shame or threaten women into being in relationships they don't want to be in with men that they don't want. I agree that is a shitty take, but I think they do that precisely because it is a genuine fear people have and is perfectly valid to want a relationship and feel bad for not finding it. Sure, many women will die alone, but so will many men. It will be a shitshow as never seen before because never before we saw in hist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:11 AM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI also understood it as such. It is a lonely voyage to the unknown, which can be nothing or who knows what. Maybe this all is a videogame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:09 AM |
| 13 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneThat is good you have realized it, but most people do want a relationship and many say what you say only to cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 09:09 PM |
| 7 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI don't think you or me as individuals can help directly as much, but it is more an institutional issue. Just as women put laws to deal with issues women have as a collective, so shall men have such laws and social nets. However, the idea that men are privileged (which is just a small minority of men) makes this impossible. I think men being less lonely also helps women at the long run. Unless they want to share, I think most women also want to get old with someone. Women only have the illusion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:55 PM |
| 10 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneIt is not very easy. Making friends and dating as an adult sucks, especially for average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:53 PM |
| 7 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneFor example, it encourages individualism and work over family, which is often put in a background. It works for some people but some people have it too late when they realize family is far more important than a job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:52 PM |
| 2 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneMaybe they mean just passing out as an individual? IDK, it makes no sense to me either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:51 PM |
| 4 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life alonewomen are the privileged gender They always were, even at the cost of some freedom, they also had to deal with way less consequences. For example, no vote but also no drafting, no doing coal work, etc. Nothing wrong with that but they are very butthurt to admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:50 PM |
| 7 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneSure, loneliness is subjective, but just as bad diet is related to health issues, being alone is more likely to be a cause of loneliness. We need others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:24 PM |
| 12 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneAgreed. Even less-than-ideal families often have enough love and company in them to stay connected. I agree some families are toxic, but not all families are like that and it is relatively rare comparing to the benefits in most families. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:17 PM |
| 22 | The issue is not dying alone, but spending most of your life aloneI kinda accepted it, but it is a bitter pill. I'm not coping saying "living alone is awesome" because it is not. It will also be still hard to get old alone even accepting it. Sure, it can be a good life, but if you expected to love and you appreciate human company, it is a reasonable desire to have. I cannot imagine people who use antidepressants since they were 12 dealing with what is coming in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 08:15 PM |
| 26 | Younger men cannot try harder on dating without being desperateSadly, in many places apps are the only way to date now. Women don't feel safe outside so if they want to date, they choose apps. Men often are not having friends to go out and going out alone looks pathetic, which also make them not look for dates outside, and they can be recorded and put as creeps. Apps are still the safest way to date even being so ineffective and inefficient. I suspect that will win over effectivity, just as people now choose cars and suburbs while walking cities were the st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:23 AM |
| 18 | Younger men cannot try harder on dating without being desperateMen that cheat on you are highly experienced on having sex with multiple women so if you are having sex with them you are already a bangmaid anyway. Women have all the sexual power and still choose those men, because they want men with sexual experience and skill to attract women, yet that is risky because you are assuming those men will consider you special and commmit to you (they probably wouldn't). So the issue gets worse: bad men that use men get better at manipulation and monopolize all da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:04 AM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseA stable population requires a birthrate of exactly 2.1 or more. A Sorry, I did not mean a flat stable population, but let it go down slowly, not drastically and causing an economic and infrastructural disaster. I think population can be reduced but it has to be very slowly, and people are having way fewer children (for many reasons, voluntary or not). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Will more women start freezing their eggs?Woman in that regard naturally select themself back to the kitchen, so to say. You put it perfectly. This reminds me of the cringe "new" atheist activists of 2010 too, talking about the growth of atheism, while their secular demographics are collapsing... as if evolution was against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Will more women start freezing their eggs?Less than 8% of those women will conceive anyway even with help of frozen eggs tech. Women had the option to choose family or mamon, and they choose the later and then they repent and scream... no, lady, you have to accept your decisions. Women don't realize they have been scammed by anti-natalist intellectuals and environmentalists that hate babies and even the idea of families. Those are the experts, journalists, etc. that tell they "they can wait". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:54 AM |
| 2 | Will more women start freezing their eggs?by men like you with your ideology and lack of experience and knowledge. If women were really repulsed by ideas of those men, women would not be fucking criminals, players (that is why they are players) and all kind of men that use them as flesh. Either women are terrible at detecting those ideas or they don't care, in either case you are wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Men who are 50/50, how do you plan to compensate for child birth?Men also have their own challenges that are way harder than those of women, maybe not as much hormonal, but social, legal, moral, seduction, making money, etc. I have no idea why do you assume men have it easier. By category they may, but if you go general it adds up and men don't really have it better. On pregnancy, I do agree men shall pay more for the woman, but after that rights such as paper abortions shall be a thing if she wants to abort too. Morally I oppose abortion, but if it is gonna … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:47 AM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseWhy do all these scenarios exclude the existence of male bots/sex toys? You are right, that is also something to consider, although I doubt those toys will pay stuff for women and protect them in a significant way, who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:43 AM |
| 3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseMen that aren't fucking women aren't fucking them because women don't want them. Period, end of story. This, no need to greater narrative, moral justification, trends, etc. Those things may be there, but it seems women and society is trying to put on those men their own failures and frustrations, beating a dead horse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:41 AM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseThat's the thing, AI can generate those "defects" too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 11:40 AM |
| 3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI'd say that people are either empathic or sociopaths depend on what they support. It is so sad we are like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:31 AM |
| 3 | What is the essential feminist case against marriage?Feminists often assumed that marriage takes power from women. Personally I believe this argument makes no sense, even in the past because women had the best chance to be influential in society by marrying. Women also had more time for themselves being married and working for their families than working as a man in a 12 shift job in some factory. Sure, they depended on a man, and that was part of the argument, but indeed married women were far more respected by society and family than single wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:23 AM |
| 4 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseIt's a very tough sell to tell all these guys that they sould take the courage, risk rejection, then plan a date, probably pay for it just for the possibility to get laid with a girl that won't even lift a finger for him rather than just open their phone and jerk off to a much hotter woman. Advances in tech in the future will just make the equation more loopsided. You are right, I think that Japanese technological and urban environment, and lack of Christian chastity morality, is what shows us t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI don't think it makes sense to pay $200 dollars for a night of sex WTF | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:16 AM |
| 3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseWorking title: the last men. Nietzche was right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:06 PM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseMy talk about morals is not about my morals, but morality in the law. I don't get why you get triggered by it, since I'm not making a moral argument or even a counterargument, just pointing out that morality will not help us even if some groups wanted. But I don't stop in just cultural morality... human rights make no sense either. If we are truly just dead atoms, why stop on just some cultural morality? Why not disregard all morality, even that of human rights and dignity? It will be ugly, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 01:04 PM |
| 2 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseCurious, why do you think that is a good thing? Personally I think a stable population, of one baby replacing one dead person, is the best. It is also weird that people who push for more taxes and entitlements (leftists) also hate the idea of having future taxpayers to pay for it, since such system cannot sustain itself without people (unless, who knows, AI compensates somehow?). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:59 PM |
| 2 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI think you do have a point, those people will at least get some form of pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:58 PM |
| 2 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI would say men are blind by sex. If they have it, then they are blind to the diversity of emotions and love and such, which is why it is important for them to have a limit on sex. But we cannot help it, it is a desire that I doubt women can comprehend, just as men cannot comprehend some simpler desires from women. But that does not mean men are not capable of more on relationships, but if sex is there it can be a labyrinth to be lost before finding something more fulfilling and moderate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:57 PM |
| 4 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseYou are right, such a double standard for hypergamy, and erotic women's boooks that will probably be generated by AI anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 12:55 PM |
| 0 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseMen use porn because of the need to procreate. That drive to watch porn wouldn't exist without a sex drive. Sex is just the trick that natures use to make us procreate, but usually we don't have sex for it. Even in the past, most sex was for pleasure and bonding, knowing the consequences of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:50 PM |
| 3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseSadly, if something feels too good, it is safe to assume it will be banned somehow, probably on the same grounds most drugs are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:34 PM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI also wonder why women complain about men wanting to control their sexuality, if for over 100 years they pushed for higher consent age limits, more divorce laws favoring women, state helping women by taxing mostly men, etc. It is basically projection, they are the ones that are drunk on trying to control men's sexuality and decisions to be fathers (such as discouraging paper abortion). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:33 PM |
| 11 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseLabels like 'sex robots lives matter' and 'AI aren't your slave' will all over the MSM. Yes, the false empathy is the new replacement of moralism. "Open borders" is the best example... it makes no logical sense because both the Right and the Left know you cannot just open borders for everyone, it is also logistically impossible... even migrants know this... but muh empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Cop Orgy Controversy WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADTaxpayers don't want to pay for sex they are not getting, which is reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:15 PM |
| 9 | Cop Orgy Controversy WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI'm convinced that ugly women have more sex because they use it as validation to compensate their ugliness. Healthy people with a healthy sex life usually don't need diversity of partners as much just a bunch or one high quality person to have sex and relationships with. Even men who are "players" usually have days without sex and prefer to stay with high quality women the best they can. Look how hideous most "famous" poly groups are, such as that group of one woman and multiple men that almost … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Cop Orgy Controversy WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADExactly. I don't want to pay for people's pleasure if I'm not getting any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:10 PM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseBut having sex or pursuing women will be significantly reduced and not the focal point of a males existence. That would be heaven. In the past men often focused more on war and power, women were just another price. Maybe we are returning to that lack of focus on women only, no more the gyno-centric world of the last half century that gave women all power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:05 PM |
| 2 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseAI will make porn and ultimately, copulating with women obsolete. I doubt it, many men will like the real thing. They will just use a VR with their custom porn while they fuck the woman they don't want to look at, like a fleshlight. Women will not be obsolete, they will be happy they can get almost every man as today for that, and men will be happy getting any fantasy they want in AI porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:58 PM |
| -3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseIt is true religion in the West has promoted their own morality, but morality itself is not religion. Chinese and Japanese people have very strict moral codes (even more than in the religious parts of the West) and yet they are often atheistic or non-religious. I believe that in this case it is the trust and validation of the family that kept them on such high moral culture, rather than faith. Many forms of activism such as feminists discouraging age gap relationships are mostly moral arguments … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:56 PM |
| 1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI wouldn't be surprised if dudes reached a point where it's impossible for them to get it up for a 'normal' woman, online or not. I see only reason for men to get women will be status and having children, which is also the only reason I want to marry someday anyway. Maybe women will also be useful as real fleshlights for pleasure while the man watch a custom porn vide in his VR. That will be a good thing for ugly women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:51 PM |
| -1 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseWomen not needed to get orgasm either. Not even their consent to use their faces in porn will be needed if AI is generated privately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:49 PM |
| 3 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseEveryone can get their needs fulfilled more efficiently Agreed, but it will be more personal so I suspect even more men and more hours will be on it. But maybe you are right, it is a good thing for men that are not loved anyway. Those men don't have to die in a shitty war anymore for earning shitty wife. They can just lie and CUM. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:48 PM |
| 9 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseWomen only don't approve porn for their own boyfriends and husbands. They fear to not be "enough" for them or some shit, which is stupid because men do not think like that. Men are happy with multiple women, porn, etc. as much with as only one only. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:44 PM |
| 5 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseIt's women doing the thing they claim men do on this forum. Demand men lower there standards You mean it is projection from their own selection? I cannot agree even more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:23 PM |
| -2 | AI will make the porn sick men problem 10x worseI wonder if this kind of bullying may eventually be considered moralism, since there are endless stuff that is legal and offensive and affects mental health, and yet legal. I suspect the state will lose control on this or will not care as much, just as with prostitution. PS, it's good that morality has been removed from laws Agreed, especially when the people that wanted no morality in government such as activists and feminists will see the protection of their own pushed moral ideas crushed by A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextLast 20 years should have teached us all that professionalism is a bubble. Everyone rushed to college at the same time, now we have professionals students working in McDonalds. Also women getting more educated means more competition among themselves, not more wealth is necessarily being generated as there is a fixed number of jobs. Men already know this and they experienced this since... ever. It is new for women as a class, but it is not new for men so I believe men are a little more ready for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextUnfortunately, until men can carry fetus’s, it is entirely the woman’s choice as to whether she wants to carry it to term or not. And that’s how it should be. It has nothing to do with who carries it, because it is not about the morality of abortion or the procedure, but the right to choose parenthood or not just as women do in that period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:13 PM |
| – | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?It is usually seen a "just a joke". I remember I* a had a female cousin and she used to bully her boyfriend with a fake needle (used to inject ink in a printer) because he was scared of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.Just pointing out that your human rights, human dignity, etc. are worthless anyway, we are just dead atoms, and people are slowly realizing it and humanism only relies on the inertia created by those delusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Does growing wealth inequality reinforce hypergamy in the West? Will the scenario “poor attractive woman marrying rich unattractive man” happen again?The male doctors, lawyers, CEOs and engineers and successful entrepreneurs weren’t marrying poor women, I assure you. I They should marry good looking poor women if they can, though. Also, how many of those women were rich before marriage? Maybe they become as such thanks to the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:40 AM |
| 1 | You must pick oneWho cares about love as long as she gives me sex? Sadly if there is no love it is unlikely I will get sex, so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextSure, but if the state praises some groups for not working or even encouraging them to not pay and forces other groups to pay more, that is a valid way to protest: to not participate. No one really agreed to those taxes, though, and they do not really have an option to be free from them as in the past would be to move to the forests (forests are federal land now). So it is a valid form of protest to pay less taxes or the least possible, and even some feminists would agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:36 AM |
| 0 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.The high power of liberalism is the government itself, which is as much an imaginary structure relying on authority and approval. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWomen are not taking care of themselves and their bastards, the state is. Women depend on men as always but now by proxy through the state, men still contribute 70% or more of taxes, and it seems this contribution is consistent historically. On productivity, it means nothing men are "less productive" because tech make all jobs less necessary, not just men's jobs. Having a vagina will not magically make you vital in a job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.You are probably trolling, but regardless paternity tests can become a good way to implement consequentialism as a response to the lack of morality and honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:27 AM |
| 14 | if dating is so dangerous for women why do they do it at all?Yes, that is why the stats on women claiming to be single are so useless except for how common the claim itself is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:23 AM |
| -4 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.You are only moral because it "feels good" or "empathy"? After all, you can have empathy for criminals and feel-good hurting others. If we are all dead atoms, then there is really no human dignity or human rights. They are just as imaginary concepts as gods are. In a sense, both religious people and atheists are playing the same game by assuming morality, both are based on imaginary concept for morality, they just don't want to admit it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Where does this hostility towards men today really come from?Same benefit they get from seducing men they are not interested on, or making them lose money and time and patience for pussy they will not get. Narcissist supply and self interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextSorry, I was talking about laws about paper abortion. Maybe we are talking about different things. My argument is that as women can give up on motherhood by adoption and by abortion, men shall be able to reject fatherhood and responsibilities too during that same period the woman can abort. Now, this does not mean I encourage or support abortion, but rather if it is gonna be legal, it better be fair for both the father and the mother. The government already forces us to pay taxes, fight for our … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextYes, I do. In fact, that is what taxes are supposed to be, to care for people born here, not for foreign nations or Ukraine or shit like that. It is also more important now that population is decreasing quickly in the West, and every child can be seen as an investment for future infrastructure and labor (if you prefer to see them as just a resource, it is still preferable to invest in them than killing them). I do get high population may be a problem in some countries, but not in the West, where… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:48 AM |
| 0 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.That is the point, morality is not grounded in material reality, it is grounded on character. If you only believe we are dead atoms and nothing matters at the end anyway, why would morality have any actual relevance? Only thing close to morality I see in the Left is their obsession with other people's approval. That is why so many liberal movements are about "normalizing" stuff such as pups or furries or similar. The idea is that all is admissible, but it is not normal unless everyone else sees … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:43 AM |
| 7 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.Liberalism by itself in the West is very relativistic. The god of the liberals is the government, because only it can create "enforceable" laws and personal morality is seen as oppressive or discouraged. They know the government cannot really control cheating, so it must be OK in their minds. Any moral code or restriction on top is seen as oppressive. Liberals also claim to have and defend human rights, but the fact is that rights can be discarded in the same way they discard God, with almost th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.That's not being Liberal, that's acknowledging the reality of the relationship, that it isn't monogymous as it once claimed to be. I'm sure liberals themselves developed stuff such as open marriage and the like, or just sex without attachments. Cheating is never OK, and if the other part consents then it is not cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.That does not make cheating wrong just as murder is not OK just because you are able to kill an intruder. But I don't know the question asked, or on what context, so maybe you do have a point and they presented a situation that is more complex than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:18 AM |
| 49 | Study finds that only 36% of liberal women think cheating is always wrong, whereas as 71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong.I'm conservative, but I do agree with liberals that having high values and tradition does not always imply those people will practice them. In a sense it is easier to fall morally if you have high moral standards anyway. However, I do find it disturbing so many women (even a lot of conservative women) find cheating as OK. We need tests for parenthood at birth ASAP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextNo issue, and I'm glad you agree. I just believed you were assumed those men were expecting more than they were giving, they aren't expecting a lot in fact. It would be against those men's interests to pay taxes and stuff for benefit of society they don't really are part of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextMen's responsibility is more general... like putting food on the table and money. Women often choose more specific responsibilities for their kids, which is also important. Don't you think men and women can cooperate on their own niche? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:13 AM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWell, if he did not consent to being a father, that is as bad for men as restricting abortion to women. Slavery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextI'm sure not only women use those devices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextI think it is more like a tradeoff, but yes, women deserve the same freedom men have, yet often that freedom is restricted rather by women shaming "sluts" or similar. Women often keep their own gatekeeping, especially knowing men cannot control their sexual urges as much as women, so they often blame other women for seducing their men. It is fucked up, but I can comprehend their logic. I know this is not exactly what you are talking about, but I do like this example because it is so evident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWe shall do as women and tell everyone how depressed we are and how we tried to cut our wrist... but I remember no one would care anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWomen "have" the option of abortion if they live in a place where abortion is a thing. Even in places where abortion is banned women still have more rights on that. For example, women who kills their newborns are often not considered murderers, because the trauma of pregnancy. I may not think abortion is moral, but if it is allowed then paper abortion for the father shall be allowed too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:05 AM |
| 0 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?Why would a man test you if you are just for sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:03 AM |
| 2 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?Sadly, women do that all the time, unconsciously or not. Men do have their own tests on women, but they are not even as close as cruel and dehumanizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:02 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?Stay on your ground. Make jokes out of her pity complains, make her laugh. Don't do anything she asked you annoyed if you don't want to. Women hate to admit it, but they do want a guy more powerful than them, and if the guy follows her orders, that make them lose attraction for the man. That is why women often date disagreeable men, even if they are criminal or divorced. It is not because they are in that situation, but because those men don't really give a fuck and they love that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 12:01 AM |
| 4 | if dating is so dangerous for women why do they do it at all?Women enjoy sex, but we do not seem to enjoy casual sex as much as men do. It is understandable, but they can have sex with the same guy so it is not as casual anyway. Not exactly commitment, but it seems something they would do for a few weeks until they find a better guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 11:58 PM |
| 0 | if dating is so dangerous for women why do they do it at all?Because it is a shit test. Women have all the privilege in the dating and sexual market, but also they want to be victims. So we have this odd dynamic in which women are proud of being so powerful but also the biggest victims (???), and questioning it is somehow misogynistic. That is how women can keep the cake and eat it too for people that are stupid enough to take their dating complains on men seriously, which is often feminist men that they never fuck but they still support feminism with tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 11:55 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Where does this hostility towards men today really come from?It is a shit test because women cannot cause men to kill each other for them as in the past. If they could, they would applaud men fighting for her just to feed their narcissistic supply. So the only real female power is manipulation in form of blue pills and lies. All their power is very coward and calculating, because the actual power is in the men they want, so they have to somehow manipulate men who are stupid enough to hear their "wisdom". So at the end many good men end alone and many of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 11:51 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextI find it odd that they want to control men's urges yet they also want to destroy all institutions that keep those urges in check, such as marriage. You are right. It is like they want men to be totally different fundamentally, not really put any effort on dealing with the male reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextYou associated cheating to birth control, pregnancy and abortion? That's some very faulty logic in play don't you think? In summary, I said men are freed to mess it but have to pay the consequence, while women are more shamed for the acts while they can easily avoid the consequences. Sorry I don't find better ways to express my thoughts. Who gave birth to those men who 'made everything'? Agreed, women are very important. Wonder why some women hate pregnancy so much, which is such a female unique… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextIs not it odd women catfight for the top men that have all power in the patriarchy they hate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextMany women choose to work and leave the children in childcare, though. That is paid labor for people who work there, and then both the father and the mother can contribute equally for that. Now, I guess not all women can afford childcare or such, but that is often an option in the liberated West for working women. It is also a little myopic to assume women who stay at home are somehow poor or enslaved. Sure, they are not paid in wages, but they often enjoy the wealth generated by someone else in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:24 PM |
| 0 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWomen doing unpaid labor freed a lot of time for men. So did men's inventions such as microwaves or washers freed lots of women's time. So I guess they paid you back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:13 PM |
| -2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextthey're not being ''overhired'', it's just that right now great women are sometimes given job positions that would have otherwise been filled by mediocre men Weird they get only top jobs in industries 80% men, not in the whole pyramid. Very classist attitude from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextMen as a uniform entity can’t have a pass for their shortcomings because they’ve invented more - they’ve invented more because they had this opportunity and they used women as their free labor resource. If men were/are really using women as slave labor, they are doing a terrible job by not letting them do the worse. Women work less overtime; they work less risky jobs and almost no nasty jobs. In the past it was more extreme as women were not able to work except in very specific things. Or maybe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:09 PM |
| 4 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextBut I realise that the word 'men' can mean someone born in the year 2000, or some 70 year old old shit stain. I'm sure men born in the 2000s and watching porn until his 30s is so progressive... at least they like women with tattoos, for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:05 PM |
| 7 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextMen often work overtime or multiple jobs when they have families, or work riskier more-profitable jobs. That is a valid way to contribute, especially when the wife chooses to stay home with the kids. Both genders are contributing, although in different ways. Sure, there are men that don't contribute with anything and there are women who do not care about their own children, but contributing on different aspects does not mean men have less responsibility. I do agree that women have to sacrifice a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWomen upset at men desiring younger women is no different than the men who are upset at women for their hypergamy Exactly. Most men believe hypergamy is a disadvantage for most men, yet they accept the reality of it as biological and natural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:58 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextOk, but that is a preference too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextIf you are living in the West, you are living in the safest times of history. Don't you think that maybe your fear is what is stopping you? Men are more likely to be victims of crime, and women are more likely to be defended by strangers, both men and women, which is a reason to feel safer. On social support, I agree social support has decayed (in favor of government support and corporations), but that is a worldwide phenomenon that affects everyone equally. I'm not saying your concern is irrele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextSo that means your source include this, and you agree, right? While men see tattooed women as less attractive, they also see them as more promiscuous, research shows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextThat is an odd view. The post is not about crime. What is next? Ban alcohol because it is often implied on many crimes and vices? Well, some women already tried that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:49 PM |
| 8 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWell, I gave you credible sources. You gave just ad hominem insults. But I guess you are a genius in disguise, you just need to be discovered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextIt's how men treat women who have children is insulting in relationships, Can you elaborate on that? I find men respect women with children a lot, such as their moms, auties, wives, etc. Do you mean single mothers? They may not want to be fathers of other man's child, but that does not mean they do not respect those women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextAre you suggesting women were not smart enough to overcome oppression? Women have dominated college graduation rates for decades in the West, though. They still earn less in jobs that pay the most. That is enough for them to show how much they can invent without oppression, and yet giving them money for having a vagina, over-hiring them for "women rights" and stuff like that and somehow it is not enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextmany men are choosing to just do the bare minimum, but they still want women to give them what they want You are right and those men are being stupid, however plenty of men found out they will never be over 6 ft tall or earn 100k a year and they find it harder and harder to mate, so they wisely choose themselves and forget about that shit and generating any surplus for society for good. That is a reasonable decision too. Many men also find that drugs and porn are enough to keep themselves not de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextWhile men see tattooed women as less attractive, they also see them as more promiscuous, research shows. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-games/201305/how-do-people-view-women-tattoos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:36 PM |
| 5 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextHow does this excuse cheating? It doesn't, just pointing out that society punishes men on other ways. On women it is often punished by shame, on men they are punished by legal and social expectancies to care for his children. I guess it has something to do with pregnancy and the implications. However, I think the same is true for women. Their societal privileges are balanced out by the disadvantages they have biologically (less muscle strength, having periods, burden of childbirth, less energy, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:34 PM |
| 3 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextSexual desire for fertile individuals is natural and promoted by testosterone on both sexes. I don't get why you find that controversial. Of course, that does not justify immoral behavior, if that is what you mean. You still have the control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:30 PM |
| -1 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextI inconvenience myself on a daily basis, including paying money, because of men, not women Can you elaborate on how men are stopping you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:28 PM |
| 8 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextMen invented most stuff .....because they kept women out of the public sphere and the workplace. Also, there were women who invented stuff but men took credit for women's work or the husband's name was put on the invention since women had no legal status. Now that women are freer to work, we see what they can do and it's pretty awesome. That is true, and it is also true that women often published work in their husband's name to promote their contribution, and women were less educated on academia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Most criticism on the male gender is out of contextSexuality is demonized when it conflicts with the rights and liberty of others. Such as pedophilia, rape, zoophilia, necrophilia etc Indeed, if you act on such things, that is the crime. Meanwhile, Western sexuality is full of kinks that play all kind of those perversions that often imply stuff such as choking or dressing as a student. Meanwhile, men desiring young thin women is not in conflict with women's liberation and freedom because they are not entitled to men's desire, and often those are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | The importance of teen love is underrated.From a logical point of view you would be right, but resentment is often not rooted in logic but on the subjective experience and men that have a shitty subjective experience will try to make it up even at the cost of good women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveI suspect you are right, but I think most men cannot see that because they never had the option. It is kind of sad many men are on that blind spot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 03:15 AM |
| 6 | How do women benefit from having a hoe phase?I think it is for the same reason the get pics almost nude on Instagram: Attention. Makeup, expensive clothing, HR careers doing basically nothing really productive, etc. are just their ways to get attention. It is called narcissist supply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 03:06 AM |
| -2 | How do women benefit from having a hoe phase?Only benefit women may get is that one of the top men they fuck happens to settle for them and make a family with them. It happens, but it is very rare. Most benefits I see on the hoe phase of women are on what NOT to do to get a man. Don't get me wrong... some women do like the hoe phase and never leave that, and that is their decision, but if they really want a family and a trustful husband, it is unlikely that the hoe phase will help in any way, but rather be bad for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 03:04 AM |
| 1 | I truly believe that if sexwork was decriminalized, and normalized, a lot of people would be happierMen cannot get sex as easily, and even if they can, they can break their marriage and their families and lose their children. So they are trapped, even more than single men, on getting sex. But some women do seek sex with married men, so I don't know if it all evens out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 02:58 AM |
| 6 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWhat a load of crap. Women put more effort in beauty to attract MEN. Men's looks don't count to the same degree so men don't put as much effort into it. Women focus on superficial looks on themselves, such as clothing and makeup. On men, they focus on stuff such as height, face structure, skin tone, how clean they are, how muscular, etc. So they are as superficial, but the criteria they put on men for looks are criteria that is hard to manipulate or change for most men, so it is harsher than the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?So? You can also find videos on how to steal food or other things. There is no evidence that marriage between local men and foreign women is less valid than any other kind of marriage, and your assumptions are just revenge fantasy. Maybe you need some man to make you yours to feel no need for that fantasy, m'lady. Find love! live life! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 01:47 AM |
| -1 | AWALT means AWACOT. It's not meant to be taken literallyI'd say women are more likely to use and manipulate men to do the nasty stuff. You see this in how often in criminal couples she is the mind behind it all, women also often causes conflicts between men and lobby the government to get more benefits from it without contributing as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:15 AM |
| 4 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveI think women are just looking after their interests instinctively, could be an oversight like you said too. Agreed, but this goes deeper. This idea has infiltrated even institutions that shall work for the benefits of everyone, not just women and children. Tbh after we manage to stop putting women on a pedestal im praying on a world wide thot database with name and nudes. That shit would be epic. Hahaha it would be fun. I think some people tried, but it was put down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:14 AM |
| 7 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWomen work less overtime because they parasite the income of their husbands and boyfriends, though. Also more likely to depend on government benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:01 AM |
| 3 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveProbably. Women on this sub are pretty open about it, though. Agreed, and I appreciate it, but I think it is more on the fact that internet is mainly anonymous and pseudonymous. Still I do have deep respect for women who openly say this, not necessarily to support men, but to not support the fake narrative just to feel better. Ironically, I find lesbian and married women more honest about it, probably because they do not need that facade and they get only marginal benefits from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 12:00 AM |
| 13 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveYou guys really have to stop being so pissed that women haven't stepped up and saved you from being your shitty selves Again the default personal insult with the lack of arguments. You don't know shit about me. If you do not have any arguments that does not mean I am right either, you do not need to go to appeal to emotion insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:58 PM |
| 5 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWe are missing that our previous generations taught us awful norms for dating in hetero contexts. Basically we teach kids who just reached puberty that they should date to marry when they have no life experience. As a result I wasted a lot of my early years on dumb relationships when I should have been expanding my social circle and meeting as many people as possible. Honestly, I don't think that was bad advice in the context of that time. Only later college became a requirement for almost every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:56 PM |
| 10 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveI'd say that looks are a gate. Women do not even consider men if they do not fit their looks requirement, but also admitting it make women look shallow so they focus on the personality aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveSingle women still work less overtime, are more likely to leave job to choose saying at home and also choose jobs that pay less, though. Most of this inequality is compensated by profit produced by men as a collective. Almost all benefits women have, such as more social security and more legal benefits, come from men being taxed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:52 PM |
| 5 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveSo if you want to feel all the emotional privilege women do then you should find more supportive male friends. If women become homeless they shall work harder, not have 90% of gendered housing for them. If women do not want to suffer then shall marry good men and those who do not beat them. If women do not want to be at disadvantage at job they shall work longer hours instead of getting more pregnancy benefits. As you can see, your arguments are not in good faith because they would never apply t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:44 PM |
| 8 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveMen contribute more taxes than women, even fewer of men working than women. Women are also net benefiters of government entitlements. So government is the husband now, but they still depend on men, just by proxy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:38 PM |
| 8 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveMost people in the US are one paycheck away from homelessness yet most people get laid, have dates, have relationships, have marriages that (at least at the start) involve two people who are mutually attracted to one another. By that logic homeless is not an issue because most people are homeless. Same logical flaws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:36 PM |
| 6 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveMen here complain that women who have had previous relationships will bring their trauma and baggage to the relationship but prove again and again that trauma has nothing to do with it No one here is talking about previous relationships, though. Getting shitty advice isn't the same as gaslighting Feminist and cultural propaganda is far more than shitty advice, though. It also how dishonest and hypocritical this society is. Nobody cares about you enough to try to make you feel crazy, if their adv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:33 PM |
| -3 | AWALT means AWACOT. It's not meant to be taken literallyAgreed, women are likely of terrible things against men or even against their own children if they can get away with them. If they can kill their own unborn children just for breaking up with the boyfriend, they are able to be evil in far more things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:29 PM |
| 4 | The importance of teen love is underrated.Women get more legal benefits during divorce, such as custody and almost all spousal benefits. Women are trusted more by people, so they have advantage in jobs that need human interaction. Women are less likely to be homeless or poor because people care for them and are more empathic to them than to men. When men and women fight, it is always assumed first the women is right. Those are only a few out of my mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Dude, you can find in youtube videos about how to skin a turtle to eat. That does not mean it is common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:25 PM |
| 10 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveBut it is a good question. If society cares so much about shit like mental health of women, or helping women CHOOSING to be with abusive men, why should not they care about male issues too? The assumption women are always victims that need help, always angels, is the narrative that shall be challenged because it is based on false lies and unreasonable assumptions that may have been useful 200 years ago when women were property, but not anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:24 PM |
| 5 | The importance of teen love is underrated.Women have terrible dating lives currently and have higher rates of anxiety and depression than men. I get your point, but it is not even an argument. Women had far worse in the past, and it also benefits women to be seen as "the good side" and the "golden standard" for human behavior, especially because women are more agreeable than men and less likely to rebel against the status quo (heck, even in the middle east women being used as property often side with their own men rather than Western ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveMaybe that is not mom's work, but dad's. Maybe you are right and moms are just doing their best. I doubt moms can really give valid tips on women to boys, just as men cannot really give good tips on women issues to girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:20 PM |
| 12 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWhy does society have to take responsibility for every random chump who doesn’t know how to process years or even decades-old disappointment? Why should society also care about women being abandoned or choosing bad husbands after all red flags? Why should society care at all about any social issues? I just know they do love to tax the shit out of men they also lie on. Maybe that is the point after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWhy do you assume that commitment for sex is by itself dishonest? There are plenty of men that love their wives and are committed to them, but also have side sex, just as there are men who do not love their wives anymore but are not being unfaithful. I believe commitment is more about character rather than love. In fact, that is the point why love is not enough for a relationship, we also need some conscious decision of mutual exclusivity or preference that does not come from love or sexual need… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveWhy is that bad? They are exchanging some commitment (girlfriend) for sex. As long as both agree on that, both parts are getting what they want the most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 11:02 PM |
| 0 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Old Western Female Revenge fantasy, though. There is no evidence divorce is more common in those cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:59 PM |
| 7 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveThat just shows how shallow men are. At least they are honest. They are not dishonest on top of being shallow as bluepillers and feminist women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:58 PM |
| 12 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveIt is very fucked up, but I don't think they are aware of it. I think this is a super-meme that probably was needed when women actually depended on men for survival (they still do, but though government taxing the shit of men who usually earn more, no need for marriage anymore). I think both men and women will benefit from this meme being exposed, and the redpill tried that but only on practical sense, it is not recognizing these collective social lies as relevant. Some women, however, will lose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:55 PM |
| 6 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for lovemen care only for looks and youth. That is not true. Most men care about relationships too and openly admit it when they cannot get a girlfriend. Sure, men care about looks and youth first, but they are honest about that in the first place, and society seems to not be compelled to lie about it as it does about women to pedestalize them as angels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:51 PM |
| 10 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveI love this comment because it shows how bluepillers always get personal when they disagree. I never mentioned if I'm gay, or if I'm even a man or if I'm single. This post is not about me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveIDK, the narrative may be exposed online, but it is still pushed by families, schools, and even some pro-feminist religious institutions and communities. The cognitive dissonance it creates it not to be overlooked. "Am I crazy for realizing this? Am I really a misogynistic pig after all?" It also does not help that men who do have looks and money can still believe this narrative with no effect, because it does not affect their sexual success at all to believe the lie. They can be redpillers, blu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:47 PM |
| 9 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I think guys are resentful before they start getting results. When you start figuring things out and getting good results then you start to realize that society as a whole has no clue how sexuality works so it's not exactly a scheme against you. It is an interesting perspective, and no doubt many men probably get to that path, but realizing you lose literal decades of potential dating by believing lies about women and putting them on angelic pedestals will probably affect you anyway. Deep inside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:43 PM |
| 11 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I have never really been resentful of women for that. I think it is the case for most men who were raised by the bluepill and women's dating tips. Some men find out the hard way that women care about looks as much if not more than men themselves. They find that their moms lied to them or were so disconnected from reality. They also find that women claim they do not care about money but pErSonAliTy are lying, they were always lying and see how men that have worse character than them are more luck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)The needle is once, probably in a lifetime. But it is kind of annoying to put a condom every time you make love with your wife or girlfriend, also not practical if the frequency of sex increases. Condoms are also often not comfortable to some women. But I do agree that men complain more about this, but I think that it is unfair to say they are crybabies if they do not have options in the first place. Maybe if they had more options that would not be the case, but so far we cannot judge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Agreed, but low IQ people are less likely to retain that money. Look up people who won the lottery and how most of them are broke now or at best back in their old job. There are other personality traits that not only help you be a better provider, but also prove you are smarter, or less likely to take too-risky decisions yet still take risks. I think that middle ground is what women want... a man that takes more risks than them but also is not takes too much risk, but of course there are excepti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)The risk may be worth it when you are horny. That is why men need a treatment that is akin to the women's pill: no reduced sensitivity, perfectly reversible, cheap and not so invasive. So far, men do not have such option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:16 PM |
| 1 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Same, but not by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.No, but sometimes it is used as a way to cope with decisions and lifestyles that you can change or improve. For instance, many people use therapy as a replacement for a healthy social life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 07:52 PM |
| -1 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Yes, they live in tutorial mode and somehow find a way to be unhappy in the times women are the most free and healthy. Imagine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 07:50 PM |
| -13 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.If your life sucks you can either (1) fix it or (2) use drugs to cope. Older women choose the later. Taht's OK, I'm not judging them, just pointing out that it is not virtuous as they claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:57 PM |
| 5 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Its even better to not have children, to have more energy, especially if you're a woman. [...] Working is exhausting enough. I see parenting as a kind of work too. Even people who hate children will depend on other people's children to care for their old selves in a way or another (taxes, labor, company, nursing, etc.) so I see parenting as an important work too, and it can be as exhausting and as satisfying as any other job. It can also be rewarding or end up as a total disaster. Still, people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | I truly believe that if sexwork was decriminalized, and normalized, a lot of people would be happierI find contradictory sources, but all agree relationships do not always imply sex. In fact, they may be an obstacle to it because if you are married and you are not having sex you also cannot have sex with others (usually). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:50 PM |
| -9 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Sure, less violence if you also give everyone drugs to keep the dull from a pointless existence. I'm sure you can argue junkies are the happiest overall too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)You are under the impression that all women want to have babies with top tier men I'm not claiming that, but it is true most women want to eventually have babies and do not realize they are already to old for that anyway after riding many dicks. Well, that is their choice too. Women also dislike casual sex more than men, but they often agree to that with hopes of commitment and even baby trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:17 PM |
| 3 | The importance of teen love is underrated.I did get better at it over time, but it's still something that bothers me from time to time. I realize that is was 90% my own fault (had the personality of a potato), but it is what it is. I also sometimes feel like that, but I realized I did not know better. My family was not wealthy enough to ride me to birthdays and extracurricular courses, but they did the best rising me. So It is not my fault 100% but I do feel like you sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:14 PM |
| 44 | The importance of teen love is underrated.Yes, it kinds of fucks your mind to know you never will back in High School having a relationship and knowing about love, especially if you are a man. It also creates resentment. If you get love later in life, you realize women only love you now for money probably, so there will not be solid love there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 5 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.You can be healthy at your 50s and 60s, when your children are independent adults. But yes, it is better to have children younger to have more energy and fertility, especially if you are a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:12 PM |
| 0 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Many women who want kids delude themselves into thinking they will be fertile in their late 30s and 40s. They are wrong, fertility is a challenge in that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:10 PM |
| 3 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.I’m pretty sure they just don’t care that much. Easy when you take Xanax and Prozac for breakfast, though, also therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:09 PM |
| 4 | What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for.Yes, and it is the true. In fact it is told mainly by women, because men cannot say that without a backslash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)True but that gives even more reason for women to want to sleep with them. Less risk of unwanted pregnancy Sure, if sex is only what the woman wants, but most women have sex with top men expecting to somehow get some commitment and make a family. Its not that women want to have babies with chads/tyrones. Its more they dont want to have babies with Joe Shmoe Then they will have no babies with either, and those who do will have to choose average fertile men available for commitment. Not the all-in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)IUDS are not invasive, tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Because what you said is not true. Vasectomies are often not reversible and most men want to have children, and many procedures women get to stop pregnancy come after a baby while they are still in the hospital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Many of those men having sex once every 1 or 2 years, it is nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Beautiful, I wish the best to those men. Finally a relief from years of make refugees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?How is it a threat if it only applies to the men women don’t want to date anyway? It isn't, but I suspect many women love the ego boost that simps give them, and that is a threat to their narcissistic supply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?In contrast men tend to be more insecure, so they get nervous about being hypergamous. Is not marrying richer men the definition of insecurity? I mean, most women would never consider marring poorer men, they rather stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Beautiful. I hope your cousin does well with his wife. God bless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Sad but true. Imagine only ONE variable they control keeps them single and unattractive and yet they find ways to lose by playing in tutorial mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Many foreigners are already here in America and seek to get the green card by marrying a US citizen. One gets sex, another get visa. It is a win win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Are many men really relocating to developing countries to find women to marry?Yes, and it is a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | I truly believe that if sexwork was decriminalized, and normalized, a lot of people would be happierhiring one consistent male worker so I could get used to him on my own terms and speed, finally having a second N. You can be a sugar mommy, plenty of younger men are into older women. No need for sex work for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:37 PM |
| 2 | I truly believe that if sexwork was decriminalized, and normalized, a lot of people would be happier80% of American men have access to casual sex or marital sex, so I'm not sure how this would really change the landscape for sex. Are not like 1/3 of marriage sexless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:35 PM |
| 5 | I truly believe that if sexwork was decriminalized, and normalized, a lot of people would be happierThis has been the problem with Americans, they don’t understand Sex work is completely legal in so many Western countries and it doesn’t make that much of a difference on the culture that they thought it would. Legal does not mean available, and also decriminalized does not mean legal. In some Nordic Western countries it is legal to be a prostitute but illegal to be a user of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:34 PM |
| 3 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)I don’t think much will change tbh. Men have had birth control options (condoms, vasectomies) for years and haven’t chosen to reliably use them. Y Not the same. Condoms reduce sensibility and vasectomies are not as reversible as claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Testosterone replacement therapy. Yes, but unlike hormones for women or trans, it is a hell for men to ask for hormonal treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)On the flip side, at least top men will not be reproducing genetically. Average men will have fertility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)You are right, which is ironic because that will not improve the genetic poll as some women here claim when they want to fuck better men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)You forget that there are already forms of birth control men have complete control over, but men often don't want to use them. Yes, but most of those forms of birth control are expensive or require a complex procedure, not like a pill. Condoms are OK but also reduce sensibility. So men do not have birth control options as easy and inexpensive as the pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Sadly, you are right. Men are used as the last safety net when all fails, even having no benefits they still have to take more risks for a society that uses them as peons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Get Vasagel Claim you want a baby too. Convince women who are desperate for babies to have sex. Win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Men are babies and won’t want to inject a gel into any part of their penis Funny, if this comment said something like this I would probably be banned for blackpilling or something: Women are babies and won’t want to inject a gel into any part of their vaginas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 04:25 PM |
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