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| 1 | Fuck Alex Jones. But don't body shame him.Much of the rhetoric around so-called 'incel communities' is not constructive, but is rather often dehumanising and following the theme of 'bad men are irredeemable'. I don't see many people defending misogynistic attitudes here, and those that do have their comments removed and end up banned if it's consistent. You can push back against the idea that inhomogeneous groups of people are all lost causes who aren't even worth trying to reach without defending or agreeing with their misguided ideas.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/22 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Fuck Alex Jones. But don't body shame him.Yes, you're not allowed to use gendered insults here, what's wrong with that? Misogynistic insults are also routinely removed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/10/22 07:45 PM |
| 14 | ‘Why aren’t we talking about it?’ The forgotten cause of missing Indigenous men and boysAt first I wondered if this was the usual rotten spin of 'it's not in-line with the general population', except that the gender disparity may actually be bigger in the indigenous American population. According to this wikipedia article, the proportions of homicide victims that are male are 69.8% in Canada and 77.8% in the US; compare this to the 81% figure stated in the article. Note that this data is from 2013 (article states their figure is from 2020), so it may not be a reliable comparison, b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitI agree that it's not as simple as 'women are exclusively buying things for themselves', I was commenting on how the results are treated as if that were the case. The interpretation itself is also a matter of bias and spin: '80% of consumers are women? Here's how that is a good thing, [...]'. It could just as easily spun to say 'women are decadent materialists'; that would also be dishonest and misleading, certainly enough to cause controvery and generate rage bait, but it doesn't fit the bias o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/22 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitAh, my mistake, I missed that bit. However, the second part of my comment still applies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitSorry, friend, I didn't mean to imply that you think that way. I did understand your point, I just wanted to highlight a pervasive sentiment that keeps propping up in every topic. It is incidental to what you said, however, so I can understand why you would think it was unrelated to your point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitmoral or environmental considerations Is this based on any kind of evidence, or is it just assuming that vegetarianism/veganism and/or women are inherently motivated by morality or environmentalism? Lately I've seen a lot of people make sweeping statements that, even when men do good things, they're still generally motivated by malice or greed. In this case, I've seen people claim that vegan men are generally motivated by the opportunity to exhibit self-righteousness and get in with vegan women.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitDelusional or not, this stuff will end up disseminated as 'fact' and breed further resentment towards men. This is the kind of thing that gets mindlessly quoted for 20 years, even if it is readily debunked as bigoted rot. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitPalm oil is used in around 70% of cosmetic products. The demand for it drives large-scale destruction of tropical forests to make way for farmland. I don't think it's as bad as meat, in terms of CO2 footprint, but the destruction of habitat threatens critically endangered species. A greater proportion of consumers are women (something around 70-80% from what I've seen). This has been celebrated as some kind of empowering, 'greater influence over markets' thing; I've never seen it portrayed as a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 07:19 PM |
| 11 | Meat, masculinity and bullshitIt does specify, '[...] a sex strike on meat-eating men' in the image, but your point still stands that bringing up gender seems arbitrary. The reason they do it is purely for impact, of course; even if they know that it's nonsense, they simply don't care because the truth does not matter. It's rage bait because most people will recognise the absurdity of it and point it out, but they'll also share it to exhibit the absurdity. Similarly, so-called journalists will write about it because 'toxic m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/22 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Norah Vincent diedI do agree that it's not a zero-sum game and that women certainly have their fair share of problems, and I think that's the dominant view I see on this subreddit. If anything, it sounds like she originally thought of it as a zero-sum game where men only gain whilst only women suffer, set out to prove it, but discovered that it wasn't accurate. Perhaps some people have interpreted her experience as 'look, it's really only men who have problems', but I've not personally seen much of that here. The… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Norah Vincent diedIt’s not about how men are misunderstood in society, or proof that ‘feminists have got it backwards’, or that men are ‘the real victims’ I'm not sure I understand; from what you go on to say, she had assumptions about how much 'easier' men have it until she was proven wrong. She may have admitted to discovering her own prejudices, which is laudable, but she still had those prejudices in the first place because of ignorance borne from feminist rhetoric. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | At what age do male persons cease to be considered just as innocent and worthy of protection as their female counterparts?"Being separated from your son or sons, especially in the early teen years, just adds to the stress that moms who are unhoused are already experiencing," Judy says. Even then, it's done in terms of the mother's wellbeing, not the son's. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/22 06:03 PM |
| 44 | Biden administration guts due process protections for students accused of sexual misconductIf you can't cross-examine evidence, then you can't adequately defend yourself against the allegations: it's that simple. This is frankly an abhorrent abuse of human rights. These kangaroo courts are operated purely in the interests of the colleges, who are motivated by profit, not the best interests of any students; not even genuine victims of sexual assault. To any feminists here: have you seen any criticism of this blatant institutional misandry from mainstream feminists? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/22 04:52 PM |
| 15 | Why are men not allowed to leave Ukraine during the war?Because choice is a woman's prerogative. That may sound glib, but there's a ring of truth to it. In both traditional and 'progressive' societies, i.e. those ostensibly adhering to a tenet of 'equality', men are still very much expected to meet gendered obligations, or else they are deemed failures in the eyes of society. Women are certainly not required to meet the same traditional expectations that are still imposed upon men, but they have even been liberated from their own traditional gender r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/22 07:15 PM |
| 41 | Bias against reserved menAll the comments are blaming me for "demanding" things from women It's interesting to contrast this with the derision men face in the mainstream for failing to meet womens' expectations in dating. See this post for examples and discussion. Seems like whatever we do, we're always the bad guys. See also this glaring example of mainstream misandry, using the phenomenon of lonely men to push their twisted ideology. I dare say you'll never see an outlet like The Independent say that women have unreas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Discussion about Men on Bill MaherIt's a shame that they had to frame the discussion in terms of how this is 'dangerous' for society; i.e. leading to mass shootings and violence. However, the UK, Japan, and many other countries also suffer from an epidemic of lonely men, but do not have problems with mass shootings or other routine outburts of violence. It would be nice if someone, for once, could talk about the topic as if men intrinsically matter, not just in terms of how this causes problems for women and society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 10:21 AM |
| 6 | Feminism has resulted in only male characters having interesting writingWho made you the authority on saying what is and is not feminist? Please provide some examples of feminists critiquing the lazy tropes being employed to present 'strong', flawless women and 'weak', deeply flawed men. Right now, I only see self-proclaimed feminists calling these films feminist with almost no pushback against the poor writing and shallow characters. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 09:47 AM |
| 13 | “What systemic discrimination do men face?”The home office estimated that about 50% of victims of domestic violence are men. I sincerely doubt we'll ever see the phrase, 'supporting female victims of crimes considered violence against men', although it is arguably more true for homicide. In the UK, 70% of the victims of homicide are male. Of course, the keyword here is 'considered' - it's not based on empirical data, but a definition derived from ideology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/22 08:29 PM |
| 1 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Indeed, but I'm interested in why the undifferentiated homicide rate diverged so much. The homicide rate followed the same trends overall between men and women, but why did it rather abruptly diverge at some point and continue to do so since? Was it a result of policy or some other phenomenon? I can't find anything that stands out as the cause. I would also be interested in knowing why this phenomenon isn't more widely talked about, but then I do an idea of that - as something that negatively im… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/09/22 05:08 PM |
| 2 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Yes, I agree - it is not that consumerism is specifically anti-moderation, but they are incompatible. What I mean to say is that consumerism drives immoderation, which causes various problems because of excess and waste, but it does so for the same reason a drug dealer tries to get people hooked on their product - exploitation through addiction/dependency and the control of supply. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 11:05 PM |
| 2 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.I've seen this before, but it only pertains to female perpetration of domestic homicide - if this was a big factor, then you'd expect that the trend would be the opposite of what the data in the article shows. Male victimisation may be down in DV, but overall it has been much higher than female victimisation since around 1980. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 08:23 PM |
| 11 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.The problem with consumerism is not that we can enjoy nice, new things; it is a lack of moderation. It is treating sex and relationships as meaningless and transient, like a drug that provides a quick 'fix'. It is excessive consumption while others starve. It is decadent excess while others need what you have plenty of. It is having lots of what you are made to think you want, but never feeling satisfied because it's not what you really need. Consumerism is not about having nice things, but neve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 08:14 PM |
| 34 | The pros and cons of total sexual freedom, and the possibility of nuance.Perry acknowledges the “remarkable flexibility within male sexuality” that allows it to manifest itself in “cad” and “dad” modes, depending on the situation. But is there a female duality, too? Perry seems to think that, with a few exceptions, women who have casual sex have been conned into it, either by men or by a feminist culture that has duped them with a false promise of liberation. A common trope amongst 'sex-negative' feminists is the implication that women are homogeneous and that men ar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Emotional support structures for men, or lack thereofThat's fair. I meant more that the 'solution' often (lazily) presented is that 'men need to open up more' (or, 'be more like women'), but I do agree that the way I work through things with my friends to be more effective than I made out in the post. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/22 10:07 AM |
| 2 | Emotional support structures for men, or lack thereofI was being a bit facetious with the 'cry it out' comment, but my main point is more that the concept is being used to reinforce the idea that men shouldn't open up and show any kind of 'weakness' in front of their partners, particularly women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/22 10:56 AM |
| 6 | Emotional support structures for men, or lack thereofHere is one example from Medium. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/22 10:54 AM |
| 1 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyAlright, thanks for your opinion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 02:44 PM |
| 11 | Newbie Question: Why does it seem Anglo-Feminist does not want "Equality" but wants "Equity" where women are above men in everything?Equality, or the state of two things being equal, is easy to quantify and reason about objectively. You can ask if two objects are at equal temperature, and use a thermometer to determine this. Similarly, when it comes to rights, you can ask whether two groups of people are equally protected by the law by simply finding laws that explicitly treat them differently. 'Equity' means 'just and fair'. What is 'just' and what is 'fair' are often unclear and subjective. You could argue that it is not fa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyHMRC spends £2.24 billion on working tax credit and DWP spends £2.3 billion on unemployment benefits. You will save £4.77 billion but it will cost £124.7 billion. To finance it, you would have to either: Is that £4.77 bn directly to people as benefits or does that include administration costs (i.e. means testing)? If it does not, do you know how much additional costs are incurred on top of what's actually paid out? I don't expect it to be another £120 bn, of course, but I wonder how much is wast… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyIt seems like youre agreeing that this is the real problem right here? Yeah, I could be misunderstanding what 'period poverty' is. My assumption was that it refers to the additional difficulties faced by people in poverty who also need those products, rather than the cost of those products contributing to poverty (which I don't doubt it's sensationalised as). It's also a matter of accessibility around the globe, given that it is harder to get decent sanitary products in poorer regions (but that'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 01:26 PM |
| 5 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyAbsoutely, I'm fully in favour of it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 01:16 PM |
| 2 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyI mean, I completely support giving people in poverty what they need, either through monetary benefits or provision of resources. I agree that the cost of sanitary products are not really going to break the bank, but that's also why this initiative is so easy to sell - it's relatively inexpensive, it plays into people's general empathy for women, and it resonantes with the contemporary over-arching, pro-feminist media paradigm. Providing fuel, food, and/or clothing would incur a much greater cos… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/22 01:13 PM |
| 1 | The attack of the 50 foot Period PovertyIt's not that it causes poverty, but that it can be one of the first things sacrificed by people in poverty. Rent, bills, and the general cost of necessesities eat up most of a full-time workers' pay on minimum wage, and so they are forced to resort to rationing for everything else. Sanitary products are often rationalised as 'luxuries' in the sense that they're nice to have, almost like deodorant, but toilet paper or some other makeshift substitute will do. However, these alternatives can be un… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 01:29 PM |
| 3 | An Emperor with no Clothes? A Short and Rough Analysis of the Selective Service System's Weaknesses Within Federalism.Thanks for this, it's very informative. I was just looking into selective service out of curiosity, as it is perhaps the most glaringly discriminatory double standard in US law. It's also informative to consider how societal, political, and legal attitudes inform and continue to justify this disparity in spite of legally and constitutionally enshrined 'equality' - not just in the US, but also in Finland, for example, where there is active involuntary military service for most men and a very real… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/22 12:36 PM |
| 1 | American politicians may be ignorant of female anatomy but American doctors are ignorant of male anatomyNo the cause of Meatal Stenosis is NOT normal genitals but the fracking surgery you forced on an infant! I guess this could be the problem; I don't think it's fair to suggest that the researchers here are claiming that normal genitals are the 'cause', but that interrupting the normal function of the foreskin (through circumcision) could be the cause of increased health risks. From the summarised discussion: We believe that when the foreskin is fully attached to the glans, forced retraction of th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 05:18 PM |
| 7 | The misandrist idea that single men are lonely because they should be ‘emotionally available’ and ‘open up more’ totally debunked.People have been using credentialism to imply some kind of 'academic legitimacy' to his article. As far as I can tell, he's just hitting all the right buttons for uncritical twitter misandrists to make him go viral. Hard to say if Matos really believes what he's written or if he's deliberately exploiting data without context (i.e. that men are lonelier than women) to draw unsubstantiated conclusions (i.e. it's entirely due to the personal failings of men) that appeal to a vocal minority's precon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/08/22 08:54 AM |
| 81 | The misandrist idea that single men are lonely because they should be ‘emotionally available’ and ‘open up more’ totally debunked.Misandrists have been loving this 'research', gleefully declaring that it 'proves' how men are simply terrible and need to 'be better'. If this was the other way round, then you can be sure that those same authors would be lamenting the entitlement of men and scruitinising the methodology with a fine toothpick. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/22 04:20 PM |
| 16 | semi-feminist madly in love with a LWMA memberNo one here is inherently against the existence of organisations that focus on womens' issues. The problem is that many such existing organisations wield institutional power to suppress evidence that contradicts their tenets, to suppress information about mens' issues, and to actively frustrate and obstruct efforts to support the welfare of men on issues that primarily affect men; to top it off, they also have the gall to maintain the claim that men hold all the institutional power. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/08/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Why cheating is now a good thingI'm familiar with the practice in reactionary subreddit so I'm wondering what was the left wing perspective of that double standard thing. I would say that the 'true' left wing perspective is that gendered expectations and double standards, whether they are reinforced by traditionalist (conservative right wing) or 'progressive' identity politics (liberal right wing or centrism), are largely a means to divide people and distract from class struggle. It is better for the powers-that-be that prolet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Why cheating is now a good thingHmm yes, that is a point that could be made from that article. Even the article I linked is coherent with that framing. If that was his point, I did not understand it as such and I sure don't understand what he wants me to make of this point. I did infer that from the context, in fairness, so if you aren't familiar with the context, then it's probably not obvious. I think the problem is that double standards are routinely highlighted and criticised when they are biased against women, but eagerly… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Why cheating is now a good thingI think he's making a valid point about how the media tends to treat male sexuality (inherently brutish and predatory) and female sexuality (inherently innocent and beautiful) quite different in general, and this article is just a glaring example of that double standard. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 01:13 PM |
| 9 | Why Reverse Oppression Simply Cannot Exist (No Matter What Merriam-Webster Says)The problem is that postmoderist thinking has become dominant in the social sciences, where empirical reality and objective methodologies have now taken a backseat to ideology and subjective interpretation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 11:29 AM |
| 3 | Why Reverse Oppression Simply Cannot Exist (No Matter What Merriam-Webster Says)In Wednesday (a new Adams' Family bastardisation), the titular character releases a piranha into a school swimming pool to castrate a teenage boy as gag. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 11:18 AM |
| 12 | Thoughts on article on Guardian about misogyny and sexism against Finnish Prime Minister and victimizing womenI will say this: at least the hypocritical Right (whose bullshit I genuinely can't stand) usually don't bring up the gender card. The hypocritical Left (or at least, the feminists) absolutely do. I think they simply use what works for them, because the press are generally unprincipled and cynical manipulators. It's largely the business of riling people up to drive advertising revenue streams, and pulling out the gender card doesn't really resonate well with the right wing press' audience in this… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 11:08 AM |
| 33 | Thoughts on article on Guardian about misogyny and sexism against Finnish Prime Minister and victimizing womenThe problem is that basically everyone is a hypocrite. While the conservative press downplays Boris Johnson's bullshit, they amplify Sanna Marin's. On the other hand, the liberal press downplays Marin's bullshit and amplifies Johnson's. Basically, we're witnessing social engineering where the press is pitting the 'two-party teams' against each other using any excuse they can find. In the case of women, it's usually pretty easy for them to worm 'misogyny' in since they've fuddled the semantics en… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’This is one of the things that bothers me most about mainstream feminism. The derision of mens' emotional state is explicit cruelty directed specifically at men, especially those who suffer from mental health issues. It's not mere apathy or indifference - it's deliberate intent to cause harm by taking advantage of the gendered expectations placed on men. It's exploiting the social expectation that men must be stoic and emotionless to cause anguish. It's outright bullying for the most part and on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 10:39 AM |
| 26 | Thoughts on article on Guardian about misogyny and sexism against Finnish Prime Minister and victimizing womenBoris' jovial escapades were a bigger scandal ('partygate') than his consistently overt incompetence and corruption, for some baffling reason. I don't think the criticism is because she's a woman, and she deserves it (as much as Boris does) because she violated pandemic restrictions, but it's par-for-the-course for liberals to conflate any criticism of a woman with misogyny. Take this Independent article on 'vabbing', for example. The implication is that people wouldn't be disgusted by a man doi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Remember: to feminists, men are simply a means to an end.It's not what I believe, it's just the only other logically consistent option if the premise is true and the first point is false. I believe that the truth is that the 'feminists' in the thread linked by the OP are simply not interested in gender equality at all, they are bitter misandrists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 01:42 PM |
| 18 | Remember: to feminists, men are simply a means to an end.How can you achieve true equality by only focusing on the situation of one or the other? The only logical way that makes sense is either of two scenarios: a) mens' rights are universally better than womens' rights, so seeking parity is necessarily an improvement for womens' rights The idea then is that womens' rights are only ever improved by efforts to reach parity with mens' existing rights. It would appear that most feminists either believe that this statement is true, or they want other peop… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/22 06:31 PM |
| 51 | Remember: to feminists, men are simply a means to an end.While we primarily focus on mens' rights, we do care about womens' rights and would gladly support measures to improve them: e.g. my impression is that people here are pro-choice and fully support womens' right to bodily autonomy in general. Personally, I don't think 'equality' can possibly be achieved unilaterally and that it is entirely counterproductive to ignore half of the equation. Meanwhile, these 'feminists' are hostile to the very idea of even considering mens' issues as legitimate, so … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/22 02:55 PM |
| 11 | Why is inter-partner violence treated as gender violence when the partners are heterosexual (or, in the case of many feminists, when the man specifically is the violent one)? Isn't it just a dispute between two close people who happen to be of opposite genders due to their sexual preferences?Trick question: it's all of the above. They are not interested in legitimising a contradiction to their ideology, they treat men with abject contempt (thus, unworthy of care), and they simply could not reconcile the contradiction with their dogmatism, even if they wanted to. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/22 01:49 PM |
| 1 | How gendered is intimate partner homicide?It still is, except now, it's done with violence by proxy ;) Indeed, maliciously employing state violence against a victim is itself a form of violence, but it is not accounted as such in statistics relating to intimate partner violence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Wednesday Addams castrating her brother's bully with a piranha is played for laughs. Sexual violence against teenage boys for minor offences is a despicable thing to laugh at. This should not be featured in a teen rated show aimed at a wide audience.This feels weirdly similar to alison's attempted rape of luther in the umbrella academy. Even worse, they still essentially portray Luther as the 'aggressor' because, after she hypnotises him and loses control, she regrets it and starts acting like a scared victim. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/08/22 05:42 PM |
| 5 | the importance of trans rights in the mens movementTraditionalist conservative, basically someone who longs for the 'good old days' where religious moralism and tradition were law. Generally anti-progressive (i.e. anti-abortion, homophobic, transphobic, etc.) and authoritarian. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/22 11:38 PM |
| 17 | the importance of trans rights in the mens movementThe unholy alliance between TERFs and tradcons is a striking example of the idea, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/22 11:29 PM |
| 9 | The ListThere are a few dubious episodes like that, but that was the one that I most vividly remember. If I remember correctly, then, like almost every other US cop show of the past 20 years, the female criminals were typically portrayed as more sympathetic than the male criminals. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/22 06:25 PM |
| 9 | Toxic Femininity : Albeism?I can't imagine how someone can become such a resentful bigot that they would suggest ignoring a vulnerable stranger, perhaps to die, just in case they might be a serial killer. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/22 06:23 PM |
| 1 | The ListIt's pretty much everywhere, to be honest. Take any random TV show and you'll likely find at least one woman who makes make some disdainful assertion about men, and no one will ever challenge it. She'll usually be met with either tacit or explicit agreement. It is as if writers have had some kind of obligation to normalise misandry for the past few decades, at least. I think a good example is in Castle (2009); 'Nanny McDead' from the first season. It has stuck in my mind since I first saw it, an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/22 06:13 PM |
| 6 | I hate how accepted homophobia towards gay men isThe treatment of homosexual men by the homophobic elements and institutions of society basically undermines the whole idea of intersectionality. It makes sense that people who believe in intersectionality will tend to downplay the contradictory reality of homosexual men. Intersectionality's naive interpretation of the world would have you believe that homosexual women have it worse than homosexual men, but that's simply not true in a material sense. Homosexual men are much more frequently subjec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | An interesting deleted comment from menslib and a reflection as to why language matters.Given that they're an unrepentant misandrist, the others mods should resign if they had any integrity. Let's not fool ourselves, though, the other mods have been picked because their beliefs align with the head mod's. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 10:53 PM |
| 14 | An interesting deleted comment from menslib and a reflection as to why language matters.It just shows how political MeToo is/was. It's not that Biden deserved to be 'cancelled' for it, it's that other men who weren't strategically important for the shitlibs were readily thrown under the bus with even flimsier accusations. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 10:51 PM |
| 25 | Any idea what might help against male self-hatred?Mainstream 'discourse', especially in the form of snappy tweets and reddit posts, is incredibly toxic. Men who suffer from depression are no doubt driven deeper into despair by the overwhelming amount of hatred and bile directed towards men generally. For better or worse, most men put considerable weight behind what women think of them. The women who blithely accuse men of being all sorts of horrible things are callously indifferent towards how their bile seriously hurts men, especially those wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/22 09:13 PM |
| 32 | Data that claims to debunk redpill dialog on dating. ThoughtsThis is just pure strawmanning. Probably motivated by self-rightousness and self promotion, given the tone. Extreme quotes are presented as representing the author's nebulous 'boogeyman', i.e. the 'manosphere', and then readily debunked because they have been chosen based on the data being available to debunk them. The people who genuinely believe this misogynist rot about women being uniquely sinister and deceitful number in the minorty and they have nothing to do with us in this subreddit, I d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 09:29 PM |
| 39 | So, how much damage did women's groups cause to anti-rape activism regarding female-perpetrated abuse?It's entirely consistent within the ideology of these groups. Men are fundamentally awful enough to both rape and to lie about being raped maliciously, but 'women are wonderful' and would neither rape nor lie about being raped. The lie is whenever they purport to believe that men and women are equal. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | How the trans community destroyed feminismIt depends on what you mean by 'liberal', really. In Europe it's often used as a synonym for a democratic socialist, but in the US it's more often used for proponents of economic libertarianism and laissez faire capitalism. I think it's a useful distinction between radicals, who are generally more traditional and less compromising second-wave feminists, and 'moderates', who are generally pro-capitalist and neoliberal feminists of the third and fourth waves; the kind who think that a prime minist… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 05:42 PM |
| 27 | How the trans community destroyed feminismFeminism is probably the quintessential, contemporary example of a secular religion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 09:26 PM |
| 68 | How the trans community destroyed feminismBoth are guilty of biological essentialism, but radical feminists are more consistent and honest with their bigotry. Liberal feminists give trans men a 'pass' - i.e. they do not think that they are really men. Cis men are guilty until they renounce their maleness (i.e. evil), while trans men retain the innocence of their (female <-> pure) birth. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance around this issue amongst liberal feminists, who, at best, are indifferent towards general misandry. Consider thi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Canadian law impairs the ability of men accused of sexual assault to build a proper defense and cross-examine the testimony of their accuser.I probably shouldn't have put underreported in quotation marks, since I do appreciate that crimes of this nature are indeed underreported. What I mean is that there are organisations who seem to think it's better to incarcerate more innocent men if it means more guilty men are incarcerated. I fundamentally and passionately disagree with this position; there is nothing that boils my blood more than injustice and I can think of few things more unjust and cruel than wrongly sentencing an innocent p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/07/22 01:35 PM |
| 18 | Canadian law impairs the ability of men accused of sexual assault to build a proper defense and cross-examine the testimony of their accuser.When ideology is treated as absolute truth, then evidence will be made to fit it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 05:35 PM |
| 43 | Canadian law impairs the ability of men accused of sexual assault to build a proper defense and cross-examine the testimony of their accuser.You're not being stupid, and it's an important point to note. It's true that the wording of the law is indeed gender neutral, however the intent and application of the law is not. This law was written in the context that it is primarily, almost exclusively, men who are charged with sexual offenses. This law will disproportionately impact men, and there is simply no way that the legislators were so naive as to be unaware of this. The law itself even contains points often raised by feminist organi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 02:19 PM |
| 52 | Canadian law impairs the ability of men accused of sexual assault to build a proper defense and cross-examine the testimony of their accuser.That's an even more overt presumption of guilt... We really are increasingly being treated as second class citizens. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 11:38 AM |
| 40 | Canadian law impairs the ability of men accused of sexual assault to build a proper defense and cross-examine the testimony of their accuser.After seeing the discussion regarding the Supreme Court's decision (R. v. J.J., 2022 SCC 28 (CanLII)) on this, by u/bloodfuel, I looked into the law regarding this. I’ve provided Section 276 (first image) of Canada’s Criminal Code for some context, but it does relate to the decision made by the Supreme Court. This law protects accusers against prejudicing based on their sexual history. Note that this includes any sexual history with the accused. Note that subsection 3 outlines that the judge mus… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/07/22 11:11 AM |
| 3 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?No problem, here are a few I found: https://workingchance.org/ https://www.wpaonline.org/ https://womensprisonreform.org/ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 08:50 PM |
| 6 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?I've just gathered some sources for another reply, so I can answer your question in the first instance. This report from just over a week ago (19th July 2022) by a cross-party parliamentary committee shows that there is still very much appetite for this amongst MPs. This topic tends to crop up in the mainstream every few years, invoked by official reports such as this or general furor from womens' organisations. It also provides examples of how the criminal justice system (CJS) already explicitl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?Apologies if I come across as cantankerous in my reply, but re-reading the documents around this topic has really incensed me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 06:08 PM |
| 14 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?Of course, it's always good to back up claims with evidence. Perhaps the best place to start is with Baroness Corston's March 2007 report that lays out recommendations for the government regarding womens' treatment in the justice system. Notably, chapter two (page 3) and chapter 3 (page 4) lay out a number of the claims that I mentioned. In particular, chapter two contains a list that is frankly unashamedly biased. Most women do not commit crime; [p. 3] Most people do not commit crimes, so why i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 06:02 PM |
| 4 | The Supreme Court Ruling on The New Rules of Evidence In Sexual Assault Trials - Toronto Criminal Defence Lawyers "Ultimately, the right to a fair trial does not guarantee "the most advantageous trial possible from the accused’s perspective" nor does it guarantee "perfect justice," the ruling on Thursday said. "Rather, the guarantee is fundamentally fair justice, which requires consideration of the privacy interests of others involved in the justice system," the ruling added. A woman's privacy is more important than a man's liberty and basic human rights. Nice one, Canada. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 01:40 PM |
| 17 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?You can't trust 'fact-checkers' in general, anyone who wants to influence people will try to control the facts. Even if a fact-checker starts out with totally impartial founders and initially good intentions, it's only a matter of time before some political entity will worm its way in to take advantage of any trust that has been built up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 11:42 AM |
| 10 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?Longer sentences for women are linked with lower recidivism. Prison for women works. (The opposite is generally true for most men, where mental health help and genuine social support are the main indicators for staying crime-free.) I suspect this is because there is likely more motivation to help women in bad situations. It's hard to quantify and I don't think that it's (usually) conscious, but I think even professionals, of any gender, are more likely to write a given man off as a lost cause an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 11:39 AM |
| 27 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?It's also worth considering that women may be less likely to even be reported or charged in the first place, before it ever gets anywhere near sentencing. This is pure conjecture on my part, but it would be interesting to see if any studies have been done it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 09:28 AM |
| 24 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?Dying of sepsis in a trench sounds like a great day out, ey lads? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 09:25 AM |
| 49 | Can I ask what’s with the current backlash about female criminals being in prison in the UK?As someone from the UK, I have seen this crop up regularly over the years. Women are explicitly given greater leniency in sentencing; it is an overt policy not an unconscious phenomena. Abolishment of womens' prisons, and only womens' prisons, is advocated for by numerous womens' groups and parlimentary committees in the UK. The most common arguments are: It is somehow crueller to keep women away from their children (and all women have children, right?), reinforcing the notion of the mother bein… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 09:14 AM |
| 2 | Oppression and privilege strategy for men-play the game or destroy the game?That is because 'sex' and 'race' are orthogonal axes in the vector space of 'intersectionality'. Each axis consists of some ordered set of linear 'values', such as { male, female } or { white, asian, latino, ..., black }, which are ordered on the basis of 'most oppressive' to 'most oppressed'. So while someone can be 'most oppressive' on one axis, they can also be 'most oppressed' on an orthogonal axis. This construct is entirely relative, so that no axis can have every element on the side of 'o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 10:49 PM |
| 20 | Oppression and privilege strategy for men-play the game or destroy the game?For men, either put ourselves as an ‘oppressed’ group as well or dismantle the whole idea altogether. The former seems easier I think but it’s about what works and what is the right thing to do. No, this simply won't work because the whole framework requires there to be an 'oppressor' group and an 'oppressed' group. It is a fundamentally flawed and naive framework that doesn't allow for nuance, but it is easy to understand and readily propagated through soundbites and thought-terminating cliches… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 09:02 AM |
| 17 | RealizationPerhaps the most egregious example of victim blaming is when the fact that men are most often victims of violence, particularly random assault, is soundly dismissed because it's 'male-on-male violence'. It's either direct tribalism or a deliberate effort to exploit tribalism in others. The fact is that people are generally a lot more tolerant towards all kinds of violence against men; in fact, I am confident that one could make a compilation of all the unwarranted violence inflicted against male… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Google search trends point out Men's rights activism is more prevalent in blue states, than red states, yet the running trope of MRAs being angry reactionaries continues to defame our image, how do you feel about this?Fair enough, it's certainly a lot better than the usual vitriolic censure against anyone who doesn't treat it as a non-issue. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 03:40 PM |
| 14 | Google search trends point out Men's rights activism is more prevalent in blue states, than red states, yet the running trope of MRAs being angry reactionaries continues to defame our image, how do you feel about this?There are net-upvoted comments denying the existence of 'real' misandry and writing it off wholesale as a 'right wing false flag' to discredit feminism. For example, It's [Misandry's] not even anything. It's a construct created by right-wingers to tear down women and feminists. The 'misandrists' you're talking about dom't really exist in any meaningful capacity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/07/22 09:35 AM |
| 24 | My first win!Women are about as passive regarding their rights as men are, generally speaking. The difference is that women have been encouraged and granted a platform for decades to stand up and talk about their issues, while men have been broadly dismissed as 'privileged'. While women were praised for 'fighting the patriarchy', men were routinely told to sit down and shut up, with MRAs in particular misrepresented as raving misogynists in the mainstream and often 'de-platformed'. Historically, men used to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/07/22 09:31 PM |
| 29 | My first win!'Relying' on women is not what's happening here, a woman is helping us and we appreciate that. We need women in the same way that women need men. u/FightOrFreight is absolutely right in that there are certain situations a woman would find it easier to be listened to, especially in the west, but the converse is also true of men in other situations. I think it's very short sighted and honestly counter productive to think of mens' and womens' issues as so easily seperable; they are two sides of the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/07/22 07:33 PM |
| 7 | When does male loneliness start? And what causes it?Not to downplay the fact that it can be worse for neurodivergent boys (I have ADHD myself), but it does seriously affect all boys and men. Men who don't abide by a very narrow set of expectations are often deemed unworthy of concern generally, but there's also a problem with people who do care about them on a personal level not knowing how to approach offering help. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/22 11:15 AM |
| 44 | Great... now male's MRA don't want to talk with me because they see me as a woman nowThey are likely frustrated because of how their voices have so often been ignored and actively supressed and misrepresented by the people who have had monopolistic control of the narrative. Even now, there are tons of people deriding 'men' for this, but men collectively had no more to do with it than women did. Can you really blame them for being a little glib? At least they don't tend to go as far as 'kill all women' when they need to vent. If MRA are incapable to put their pride aside to fight… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/06/22 06:55 PM |
| 42 | Why are men being blamed for the overturn of Roe v. Wade when recent surveys show that the majority of men AND women are pro-choice?I'd expand on this a little: it's because the benefits of this narrative outweigh the benefits of changing the narrative and the costs of the status quo. What functional purpose does bigotry and hate serve? For the individual, it is almost entirely counterproductive to hate groups of people, with which the majority of whom they certainly have shared interests. But there are those who cynically benefit from crisis: just like 'disaster capitalists', they have no concern for the lives they ruin as … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/06/22 06:32 PM |
| 5 | "Educate your son."I'd never heard of the Shanda Sharer case, but the wikipedia article for it is a farce. The vast majority of Melinda Loveless' section is about her father and reads like a cheap novel. I've only skimmed over the rest of the article, but it seems to be of a similar poor standard throughout. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/06/22 08:10 AM |
| 8 | Proposed Title IX regulations would roll back essential free speech, due process protections for college studentsBut.. why? Did they take a look how much of a catastrophic failure and miscarriage of justice Title IX has been and think it hadn't done enough damage to innocent boys? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/22 08:46 AM |
| 46 | Binary trans people should have a bigger voice in the gender conversation.I think part of the problem is that trans people who 'pass' aren't 'interesting'. Allow me to clarify with an example: when a corporation engaging in pink capitalism wants to appear 'progressive' in an advertising campaign, then they may hire a trans actor. However, they gain no benefit if people don't know that the actor is trans, and it would be crass and possibly counterproductive to explicitly label them as such somehow, so they have to appear trans (i.e. 'you shall not pass'). For example, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/22 08:40 AM |
| 3 | To start a discussion about where bodily autonomy should start, what do you think about piercing infants' ears? I personally think it's wrong...That's interesting, I hadn't heard that before - it's still exclusively presented as something done to women and girls by men, or at least for some nebulous benefit to men (i.e. it was that pesky 'patriarchy' all along). I never know what to make of Germaine Greer; sometimes she seems like an honest academic presenting her observerations without too much ideological bias, but other times she comes across as a lunatical misandrist with some truly absurd takes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/22 08:07 AM |
| 5 | To start a discussion about where bodily autonomy should start, what do you think about piercing infants' ears? I personally think it's wrong...I'm not denying that, it just reminded me of how people try to downplay and dismiss opinions because 'mostly men' believe it or something. I'm not saying that was your intention here, however. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 08:03 PM |
| 8 | To start a discussion about where bodily autonomy should start, what do you think about piercing infants' ears? I personally think it's wrong...(usually mom) I hate to be 'that guy', but I'm not sure this is really constructive. Personally, I hate it whenever some journo-activist adds 'mostly men' as an aside when talking about some issue, as if that alone is a tacit implication that whatever their grievance is must somehow be less legitimate or important. The point is: what does it add? Even if it is 'usually mom', then all you do is make other women feel underserved shame or guilt by association; the exact same thing that we hate to d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/06/22 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Man took own life after police wrongly named him as paedophile in 'human error'Whether she's legally liable or not doesn't really matter at this point, it's not going to bring him back, but I'd argue she still has some moral responsibility for his death. Whatever her intent, it was wreckless and irresponsible to divulge the information publicly at all. At this point, since we don't know anything about her involvement beyond the claim that she was the one who divulged the information in some sense, we can only give her the benefit of the doubt and assume it was not her inte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Man took own life after police wrongly named him as paedophile in 'human error'I'll concede that it is possible that the girlfriend had no malicious intent, but you must understand that she was at least grossly irresponsible. In the best case, she confronted him and he explained that it must have been an error, but she still told other people for one reason or another. Perhaps she didn't intend for him to be attacked, but there is a great deal of precedent for men accused of sexual crimes, especially against children, being targetted by violent mobs. Given that her name ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 06:26 PM |
| 8 | Man took own life after police wrongly named him as paedophile in 'human error'It's possible that a typo started it, but it's that combined with the responses and further failings that drove him to suicide. What should have been a quick fix for a clerical error resulted in unimaginable trauma, abuse, and, ultimately, the death of an innocent man. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 08:03 AM |
| 8 | Man took own life after police wrongly named him as paedophile in 'human error'Indeed, which makes this a left wing issue too, at least tangentially. This was back in 2017, before the current 'cost of living crisis', when only the people who 'deserved' poverty were feeling the effects of it. He 'stole a loaf of bread' and paid the ultimate price. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 07:49 AM |
| 65 | Man took own life after police wrongly named him as paedophile in 'human error'This has only been reported from a handful of news outlets, as far as I can tell. It seems like it should be bigger news. Brian Temple was arrested for stealing a packet of sausage rolls from Greggs. For those who are unfamiliar with Greggs, it is a high street chain in the UK that sells relatively cheap pastries. To need to steal from Greggs, you would have to be in a desperate situation. For this transgression, he ended up falsely labelled as a paedophile through police incompetence. Through v… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/22 09:40 PM |
| 13 | So...this got taken down over in Menslib for "not being related to men's issues."Second sentence brings up gamergate, which was a decentralised phenomenon, and treats it as a monolithic and coordinated 'movement' centred on misogyny. Surely a truly unbiased post is about to follow... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/22 06:55 PM |
| 15 | So...this got taken down over in Menslib for "not being related to men's issues."Yes, I agree. MensLib is essentially a honeypot-style trap intended to trick people who genuinely care into 'staying in their lane'. It's a waste, since many of those people really want to see change, but the sub imposes constraints that ensure they can never engage in meaningful discussion or praxis. We have already seen conservative and reactionary actors employ the functions developed by liberals to undermine liberal ideology, e.g. during Trump's presidency, Musk's potential acquisition of Tw… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/22 06:50 PM |
| 46 | So...this got taken down over in Menslib for "not being related to men's issues."MensLib could perhaps be best described as a radical feminist psyop. They are ostensibly all-for discussing men's issues, but at the very least discussions are not allowed to question the 'unassailable' doctrines of feminism, patriarchy theory, or the various incarnations of critical theory. Discussions regularly descend into misandry, placing the blame soundly on men for 'not being better'. Radical feminists, who exhibit a seething hatred and distrust of men, are common and readily tolerated, i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/22 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Radical Feminist Mom Requesting HelpYeah, that's fair. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 10:38 PM |
| 21 | Radical Feminist Mom Requesting HelpI've taken shit in this sub before for referencing the quote, but it rang like a bell the first time I read it... "Patriarchy has no gender." The problem, I think, is that the term is itself gendered. I'm sure the original author was aware of the irony of the statement, but it's pertinent to point out that 'patriarchy' has similar problematic connotations to 'toxic masculinity'. We accept that there are systemic issues impacting men and women in sometimes different (gendered), though most often … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/22 10:12 PM |
| 66 | Reddit outraged as woman is ordered to pay child support to her rapistAnyone who has brought up the fact that this is much more commonly the case for male rape victims of female perpetrators, or even pointing out that the precedent was in fact set for a male victim of statutory rape, is soundly downvoted and labelled a misogynist. I'm finding it really hard to care about anything anymore, I just don't feel like most people see men as human beings with feelings. I already feel like a massive burden on people, and all the misandry spewing out around this only makes … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/22 06:07 PM |
| 2 | A random act of positivity.Thanks for this, I didn't have the time earlier to find the archive after I realised it was removed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 10:31 PM |
| 3 | A random act of positivity.Fair enough, I will keep that in mind in future, but I have no idea why it was removed when that subreddit is about people airing what's on their mind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 10:30 PM |
| 27 | A random act of positivity.How annoying - it turns out the original post was removed while I was writing this one... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 02:19 PM |
| 20 | A random act of positivity.I’ve posted this here primarily because I think it’s sometimes nice to appreciate and recognise good things, rather than simply critique the bad things. We, as men, endure a constant stream of negativity, with very little in the way of genuine support in mainstream politics. At best, we’re either given mealy-mouthed assurances that ‘feminism helps men, too’, often from the same people who defend ‘drink male tears’, or insincere concern from right wing actors who want to con us into voting agains… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 02:18 PM |
| 1 | A random act of positivity.I’ve posted this here primarily because I think it’s sometimes nice to appreciate and recognise good things, rather than simply critique the bad things. We, as men, endure a constant stream of negativity, with very little in the way of genuine support in mainstream politics. At best, we’re either given mealy-mouthed assurances that ‘feminism helps men, too’, often from the same people who defend ‘drink male tears’, or insincere concern from right wing actors who want to con us into voting agains… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/22 02:11 PM |
| 52 | What do you think of the possible future restrictions on abortion? Will men feel the effects of it?I'm from the UK, so I haven't been following it that closely, but I believe that abortion should be a human right enshrined in constitutional law. I'm not sure what the implications for men are, but just because we advocate for mens' rights doesn't mean we want to restrict, oppose, or roll back womens' rights. Even if there were no implications for men, I still fully support a woman's right to bodily autonomy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/05/22 06:45 AM |
| 12 | Men DO Experience FearIf person A believes that something terrible is likely to happen to them, when it is unlikely, and person B believes that something terrible is unlikely to happen, when it is more likely, what does that tell you? Some people would assert that person A's fear is evidence enough that person A has reason to fear, in spite of the odds. A sensible person would suggest that person A is either paranoid or that they have been convinced that they are especially at risk by a bad actor. I think women do th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 08:40 PM |
| 6 | "Feminists" promoting the black pillDespite how ubiquitous and invasive the term is, feminism is extremely far from a singular and consistent ideology or movement. It is so divided and means so many things to so many different people that I almost think it's a bit of a meaningless term altogether. Sex negative, sex positive; pro-motherhood, anti-natal; terf ..not terf? The list goes on. The only thing that fundamentally defines feminism is the idea that all social problems can, in some way, be traced back to patriarchy (i.e. men a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/05/22 08:22 PM |
| 6 | Do you think women (in general) want men as much as men want women? Why?I said that those are my personal feelings and that I realise they are not rational. I don't want to feel that way, and I know it isn't correct, but I've been exposed to so much constant vitriol that it's difficult for me to move past it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 11:55 PM |
| – | Do you think women (in general) want men as much as men want women? Why?Eh? I don't think my comment demonises women; at least, that wasn't my intent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/22 11:49 PM |
| 14 | UK Employment TribunalI don't think it should be considered sexual harassment, because the scalp isn't (usually) explicitly involved in sexual activity. Breasts, as a secondary sexual characteristic, are a component in both sexual attraction and function (since they typically consist of erogenous zones). Thus, any remark about breasts is almost inherently sexual in nature, even those with platonic intent, since it is a remark on a key aspect of a woman's sexual desirability. If someone was to remark on someone's peni… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/22 06:26 PM |
| 3 | consequences, negative reinforcement for the common goodFair enough, I wouldn't claim that I'm an expert, but yes - I mean punishment is generally counterproductive compared to incentivisation, in my experience. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 05:03 PM |
| 8 | consequences, negative reinforcement for the common goodIt means prejudiced people receive negative reinforcement for their beliefs. So they are forced to self reflect and some go OK i got punished for that, why is that? Oh because it’s wrong. In my experience, this approach can be very counterproductive. People tend to go on the defensive if they feel attacked, especially if they see it as a disproportionate response to something they consider benign. Resorting to hyperbole, such as asserting that 'sexist jokes lead to rape', just causes most people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/05/22 04:57 PM |
| 4 | [BBC News] Homes for Ukraine: Don't match female refugees with single men, UN saysYes, I sincerely doubt that there are legions of single men signing up for a government scheme (i.e. with official documentation) to allow random refugees to stay in their homes for at least 6 months on the off-chance that they can bag a victim for sexual gratification. That isn't the same as saying there is no risk to refugees. There is oversight; as the article itself states, A spokesperson for the government said that "Attempts to exploit vulnerable people are truly despicable - this is why w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 06:24 PM |
| 2 | [BBC News] Homes for Ukraine: Don't match female refugees with single men, UN saysFair enough, sorry for the misunderstanding! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 08:56 AM |
| 5 | [BBC News] Homes for Ukraine: Don't match female refugees with single men, UN saysI don't mean to suggest that there is no risk to the refugees at all, but the article conjures up images of hordes of sleazy men salivating at the opportunity to jump on vulnerable women fleeing a warzone. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 08:55 AM |
| 9 | [BBC News] Homes for Ukraine: Don't match female refugees with single men, UN saysIndeed, I had women as flatmates all throughout my undergraduate degree. I didn't mean to suggest that women getting creepy messages in any way suggests that men can't generally be trusted, if that's how my message came across. I think it's a case of simple sample bias: creepy guys have less luck in love, at least in the long term, so they end up overrepresented on dating apps and websites. I think there is also an element of misogyny in these attitudes, since the implication is that women are w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/22 09:09 PM |
| 18 | [BBC News] Homes for Ukraine: Don't match female refugees with single men, UN saysI'm not going to deny that women get inappropriate and creepy messages, but they've provided no evidence to back up the claims in this particular instance. Are Ukrainian refugees at specific risk of sexual abuse because of single men offering their homes with ulterior motives? I sincerely doubt it, and I expect it's much more likely that the majority of abusive and inappropriate messages have been when they're trying to find a different accommodation, whatever the reason, since there would be le… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/22 06:04 PM |
| 5 | Why do we have to be blameable for everything?It's funny how it's a sort of trade between ideologies. Feminists latch on to various issues to exert their influence over them, but people will also say that 'women are the primary victims of what I care about' to increase the impact of their messaging - apparently because people just care more about women. I recently made a post about an advert in the UK that employed gendered pronouns and imagery in a way to convey their side (the innocent and victimised) as feminine, while the bad side (the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/21 02:02 PM |
| 5 | Why do we have to be blameable for everything?That makes a lot of sense, and it doesn't surprise me. Companies that claim to be 'carbon neutral' are almost certainly using some kind of plausible deniability tactic to hide their true impact. Kind of like how Apple will use foreign factories to exploit workers while pretending to be blissfully ignorant of the abuse. I agree, I don't think that it's a gendered issue. As I said, we cannot disentangle the 'responsibility' of different subsets of humanity because of the complexity of the system. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/21 01:52 PM |
| 2 | Why do we have to be blameable for everything?What do you mean by 'male resentment' here? Hypergamy, whether it's nature or nurture, already causes problems for successful women who want to find a more successful man to date. If it this expectation isn't removed, or at least reduced, then it will just cause more confusion as women start to dominate in higher positions. Women are the majority of graduates and they receive more institutional aid towards their educations and careers, and such aid is only increasing for them ('Women in Science/… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/21 01:30 PM |
| 18 | Why do we have to be blameable for everything?I've noticed that feminists sometimes latch onto other issues. Intersectional feminism appropriates the grievances of ethnic and sexual minorities, vegan feminists claim that the meat and dairy industry is sexist because of how female animals are raped and slaughtered (never mind that the males are often considered worthless and routinely culled at birth), and eco-feminists make bold claims about how climate change is primarily driven by men. I suspect the reason is that, by appropriating these … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/21 11:47 AM |
| 3 | An analysis of r/FemaleDatingStrategyWell, they're bitter because they haven't been successful with the kind of men who meet the unreasonable standards and expectations that they feel entitled to. They're not really incels, since I'm sure many of them could have a one night stand no problem, but if there were a female equivalent of the stereotype, then it would be the women who buy into the FDS philosophy. I just used the word as an easy way to convey an image of someone who is bitter and angry at the opposite sex for not living up… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/21 10:53 AM |
| 3 | Responses to "my exgirlfriend is crazy"I do agree that 'victim blaming' can be inappropriately applied to let one side off without scrutiny. I also agree that people do have some agency and responsibility in protecting themselves, and that it isn't constructive to dismiss suggestions of prevention as victim blaming. It does not absolve the abuser, in a one-sided case of abuse, to suggest people avoid certain things and take a proactive approach to prevent victimisation. Humans are animals and we have no more control over other people… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/21 09:47 AM |
| 16 | Responses to "my exgirlfriend is crazy"This just sounds like victim blaming. Manipulative abusers are adept at making their victims think that what they're experiencing isn't really abuse. 'Red flags' are not always present or obvious, and it's easy to misjudge awkwardness on a first date as a 'red flag' if you're too strict. There isn't a consistent way to identify abusers a priori. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/21 08:54 AM |
| 13 | An analysis of r/FemaleDatingStrategyNo, but in context they talk about relationships in quite reductive, transactional terms. It is a sort of warped Randian objectivism applied to relationships. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/21 07:09 AM |
| 56 | An analysis of r/FemaleDatingStrategyYes, FDS is a trash hate sub filled with bitter harpies who apparently derived their expectations of dating from the plot of Brigit Jones' Diary. In particular, look at their 'definition' of a 'high-value male': High-Value Male (HVM) - A man that is respectful, loyal and faithful. He loves to show his woman that he can provide - he pays for dates and a relatively higher proportion of expenses in the relationship. A man that is confident, consistent and reliable. These type of men take care of th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/21 02:23 PM |
| 43 | Why do people accept discrimination against men based on past experiences but not discrimination against women?A major factor could be the 'Women are Wonderful effect'. Research, and almost everyone's anecdotal experience, has shown that both men and women are generally more sympathetic towards women and associate more positive attributes to them. In particular, This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-est… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/21 09:54 AM |
| 5 | Do you agree with the overall message of "boys will be boys but girls will be women" by Dua Lipa?In fairness, the therapists I've spoken to through the NHS this year have been very good and supportive. The biggest problem is recognising and encouraging men to access these services, and perhaps that these services lack the resources to tackle lots of cases that haven't yet been brought forward. I think that's where the mainstream causes problems - men feel like they won't be heard, that they'll be laughed at and ridiculed, that they'll be seen as weak. The general hostility and indifference … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/07/21 11:15 AM |
| 27 | LWMA official statement regarding recent comments on MensLibJust a few weeks ago, I saw a post on r/WitchesVsPatriachy that was unironically celebrating paintings of women brutally murdering men. It was quite creepy to read about people hanging such pictures up in their houses just because of their contempt for men and masculinity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/21 06:17 PM |
| 39 | LWMA official statement regarding recent comments on MensLibI found r/MensLib before I found this sub and I had lurked there for a few months before I left for good. I was disheartened to find so much casual misandry and self-flagellation, with mods who cared more about preserving the feelings of paranoid radical feminists than considering evidence that contradicted their tenets about privilege and power. The sub is corrupted by identity politics to its core and its pro-male stance is little more than a masquerade since it still puts men firmly behind ev… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/21 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Has anyone else noticed a general hostility towards men on the autism spectrum within leftist spaces?Took them a while to acknowledge the gendered component, but the space of a schoolboy's wink after that to re-assert that gendered insults about women are necessarily worse. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/21 10:29 AM |
| 8 | Do you agree with the overall message of "boys will be boys but girls will be women" by Dua Lipa?Even then, male suicide isn't taken seriously. Almost every discussion I've seen, certainly in the mainstream, is prefaced with 'it's important to remember that women attempt more often, so they're the real victims'. I've realised that a lot of statistics related to men and male health are taken for granted. From depression to rape and sexual assault, it is implied that the metrics are accurate and no effort should be spent trying to get more men to come forward. However, despite decades of enco… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/21 10:11 AM |
| 66 | Do you agree with the overall message of "boys will be boys but girls will be women" by Dua Lipa?I had never heard of the song, so I had to look it up. It strikes me as a cynical attempt to capitalise on the contemporary mainstream hostility towards men and masculinity. Critics seem to universally praise the 'message', even where they don't like the song itself. The lyrics, 'boys will be boys, but girls will be women' implies that boys aren't expected to grow out of the naivety and unaccountability of their youth, but girls have to grow up quickly and be vigilant at all times. This is simpl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/21 05:10 PM |
| 3 | Sex differences in COVID-19 mortality and ITU admission are being erased by omissionYes, and looking at the talk page there was a discussion about the disproportionate focus on women in April 2020. So at least some contributors called it out, but it has only gotten worse since then. Just look at the section on 'Gender disparity in leadership', which absolutely violates Wikipedia's NPOV rule. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/21 09:20 AM |
| 4 | Is it true that men are the vast majority of rapists?Indeed. This law has actually been criticised for being 'too lenient', but if a third party, C, coerced B into seducing A, then from A's point of view it could appear entirely consensual. In some cases, where criminal offense cannot be conclusively shown, the trial can be moved to civil (Magistrate's) court where A can win financial compensation with less evidence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/07/21 01:13 PM |
| 6 | Sex differences in COVID-19 mortality and ITU admission are being erased by omissionThanks for the comprehensive insight! I don't have much time right now to provide a thorough reply, but I'd like to highlight one key point. This gendered discrepancy in the willingness of men to risk themselves for the greater good in medicine is, perversely, being portrayed as evidence of systematic inequality against women. The reality is that the problem of representation in clinical trials is multifactorial. Incidentally, I created a post related to this point a few days ago. More often tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/21 04:43 PM |
| 19 | Sex differences in COVID-19 mortality and ITU admission are being erased by omissionIt really annoys me when people say, 'if COVID affected erections or made penises fall off, then it would have been cured in a week'. It is a mockery of body image and mental health. Men who lose their penises are understandably upset and can end up deeply depressed and insecure. Women who need to go through mastectomies or hysterectomies are similarly, and also understandably, upset and insecure because they've lost important parts of their bodies, but people don't mock or deride them for that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/21 01:30 PM |
| 22 | Sex differences in COVID-19 mortality and ITU admission are being erased by omissionI noticed this skew quite early on in the pandemic. It was reported fairly early on that morbidity was higher for men, but even the BMJ article about it was prefaced with apologetic assertions that 'overall it's worse for women'. Just look at the Wikipedia entry covering 'the gendered impact of COVID-19'. Despite acknowledging that more men are infected and killed, the vast majority of the article is about speculative and actual risks to women. The section on 'Sex differences in mortality' was e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/21 01:25 PM |
| 23 | Screenshots of private conversations refute #MeToo accusations against game designer Chris AvelloneThe danger of a false accusation is not limited to the possibility of false imprisonment. False accusations don't need to go anywhere near the courts to do real damage. I defy anyone to claim that there is a 'rape culture' when an unsubstantiated accusation can permanently ruin a man's life and reputation. Chris Avellone is fortunate that there is exonerating evidence in his case. Why do people assume that all women are inherently good and honest? Why do people take for granted that women only d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/21 12:41 PM |
| 2 | 'Male Idiot Theory'Yes, I was thinking of her as a prime example. Such as when she injures a (civilian) guy and stole his bike after he asked her to smile. Real 'heroic' behaviour, using her superhero strength to hurt and rob a regular person for saying something annoying. She's not even meant to be an antihero, so it makes no sense except that the writers love to fellate themselves over misandrist fantasies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 11:42 PM |
| 30 | Is it true that men are the vast majority of rapists?At least in the UK, yes by definition. Rape, as defined by the Sexual Offenses Act 2003, requires the following criteria to be met (1)A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. So, rape can only be committed by penetration with a penis, which applies exclusively to most men and some transwomen. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 01:36 PM |
| 10 | This feminist isn't against solitary confinement, she's only against solitary confinement for women.That makes sense; once it's reformed for women, then there's no guarantee that these same reformists will care whether prison is effective for men. After all, they already ignore over 95% of the prison population by focusing exclusively on women. It must say something about them if they see women at least 20 times more important than men on an individual level. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 01:18 PM |
| 26 | This feminist isn't against solitary confinement, she's only against solitary confinement for women.This doesn't surprise me; there is ongoing debate in the UK about basically removing women's prisons altogether. Funnily enough, otherwise 'harmful' stereotypes about women are regularly invoked in support of this, such as presumptions about motherhood (and its importance over fatherhood) and how women are weaker and less capable of handling it. 'Prison was built for men, by men', it is often said, as if it's a recreational resort for the lads that simply fails to accommodate for the particular … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 12:26 PM |
| 1 | 'Male Idiot Theory'Thanks for the suggestion, I suspect he would have difficulty getting it published even if he did want to sell it. Evidence that doesn't fit mainstream preconceptions seems to be dismissed as a matter of course. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 11:58 AM |
| 2 | 'Male Idiot Theory'It is notable how 'strong' female characters are often imbued with extreme forms of traditionally masculine characteristics that are typically identified as 'toxic' when exhibited by men. Stoic and emotionless, stubborn and boorish, hawkish and confrontational, sexually aggressive, etc.. However, always competent and reasonable, any hatred (typically of a man or men) is justified or understandable. Many Netflix shows exhibit these painfully insipid tropes; apparently their writers have collectiv… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/21 11:56 AM |
| 17 | Been wondering if I would have been happier being born as a female.Your sex is only one factor in how you are treated by others. It is certainly a big factor, but it is not itself a determining one in your happiness. There are plenty of happy men and miserable women. One of the most toxic mindsets about mainstream progressivism is the black-and-white thinking of 'us vs. them', though the reality is much more complicated. Women are not wholesale 'better off' than men, nor vice versa. The social framework of sex and gender is far more complex than most people rec… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/07/21 10:20 AM |
| 6 | Claudia Webbe MP stumped by her own question (Former Labour MP)I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand. What's specifically anti-male here? She comes across as lacking confidence more than anything, but that doesn't mean she's incompetent. She could have been asking about imposing sanctions against Belarus, for example. I don't know much about this MP, so from this clip alone there's not much context. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/07/21 02:25 PM |
| 6 | Pro-female bias in studiesA rose by any other name would smell as sweet. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/21 06:44 PM |
| 39 | Pro-female bias in studiesOne argument that is often employed to downplay or outright dismiss male victims is the assertion that 'most of it is male-on-male'. This exposes the tribalism of even many mainstream feminists, not just the radicals. The pervasive perception of social issues relating to factions of 'men vs. women' is a toxic one, and it is why people so casually associate the worst examples (rapists) with men generally, rather than saying rapists are the problem and all victims deserve support. Certainly, it is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/21 06:44 PM |
| 9 | Being a woman who challenges feminist views is pretty funny sometimes.People have incredibly astute senses of fairness. Yes, but they're not particularly good at identifying the real source of unfairness. Or, rather, the media machine is good at misdirecting their ire. Women are told to blame men (social dynamics related to sex and gender are far more complex than most people care to acknowledge) Black people are told to blame white people generally for colonial atrocities and slavery (that were actually driven by the aristocrat and capitalist classes) Middle clas… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/07/21 12:52 PM |
| 8 | Swedish Feminists Launch 'Defamation Fund' for Women Convicted of MeToo LibelThis is the kind of situation that 'intersectionality' is purported to deal with, but as usual it is unable to deal with such a contradiction in practice. It treats the compound system as a linear combination of simple terms, ignoring the real, non-linear complexities of sex and race dynamics - especially sexism, which isn't nearly as clear-cut as racism. It's a catch-22: either admit that false accusations exist, thus admitting to victimisation of men, or concede that black men are 20 times mor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/07/21 12:37 PM |
| 2 | Being a woman who challenges feminist views is pretty funny sometimes.The biggest problem with porn is how freely available and unregulated it is. There's usually no way to tell whether, in any given video, the people involved are consenting. I'm not anti-porn per se, but the industry is almost a perfect example of unregulated capitalism. Personally, I think people who are able to give informed consent should be free to do just about anything between each other, including producing and selling porn. The problem comes from being able to establish consent, as a view… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/07/21 12:24 PM |
| 6 | Why does Dan Savage have to be so hostile? Is there room in the gay community for men who don’t want to be effeminate?Before I came out to my partner, she said that she didn't believe that men could be bi. This prompted me to come out to her, and she was sceptical at first, but it didn't take long for her to come around to it. I was quite fortunate to meet her, but I have had similar experiences to you with other heterosexual women. I've been called 'dirty' by romantic interests and told upfront that 'bi men are just gay men in denial'. There's very much still that fear that bi men are promiscuous and irrespons… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/21 10:42 AM |
| 15 | Why does Dan Savage have to be so hostile? Is there room in the gay community for men who don’t want to be effeminate?Yes, I agree with you. I'm a masculine bi man myself, and I know that I've had a much easier time since I don't 'look gay'. That said, it's even harder for masculine gay men than us, since they can't be openly be in a relationship with someone they want to be with without coming out. While I can happily date a woman and not feel the need to hide or clarify my sexuality, a masculine gay man in the closet can't do that. Stereotypes about gay men are not just from the LGBT community, where some act… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/21 09:50 AM |
| 16 | Why does Dan Savage have to be so hostile? Is there room in the gay community for men who don’t want to be effeminate?It is kind of whataboutism, though. A masculine gay man coming out isn't some kind of statement about how brave he is relative to a more effeminate gay man. We should be happy that society has gotten to a point where more gay men, even those who buck the stereotypes, are comfortable being open about who they are. Masculine gay and bi men do experience undue pressure over expectations on them to conform to certain stereotypes. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/06/21 09:25 AM |
| 3 | On the topic of Amy Schumer:Recently I saw someone argue, 'if a drunk person can be held responsible for a DUI, then they can consent to sex'. At first I thought that made sense, but there is an important difference: a car does not have a choice. A car cannot recognise that someone is too drunk to drive; a car simply cannot have a 'duty of care'. Like a teacher with a student or a carer with a patient, there exists a power imbalance when one person is sober and the other is intoxicated. I believe that the more capable indi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/06/21 10:04 AM |
| 76 | A rebuttal of this feminist comic: How a social constructivist view of gender hurts men.This comic is not some spontaneous assertion about men that's meant to make us look good or build us up; rather, it is purely a defence of feminism from critique. The first three panels may appear flattering and pro-men, but all they do is contradict some explicit views espoused by some mainstream feminists. Basically, they're just a set up for the payoff in panel 4: i.e. that people are wrong to believe that feminists hate men. The positivity towards men is insincere and used only defensively t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/21 03:57 PM |
| 15 | Is it just me or is “fragile masculinity” just the new “man up” half the time?I suspect that the word 'fragility' was specifically chosen with the intent to cause upset in mind. The intention may have been innocent enough, i.e. to evoke an emotional reaction to get people to pay attention, but, if so, it has entirely backfired. I'm sure that whoever coined or adopted the term for its current use did so knowing full well that it would upset men who are socialised to feel that vulnerability and inadequacy are unacceptable and must never be shown. It does little more than pu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/21 02:02 PM |
| 52 | Is it just me or is “fragile masculinity” just the new “man up” half the time?I doubt many people in this sub have any sympathy for the alt-right. r/menkampf is a little tasteless and trite, but it is interesting to consider the parallels between Nazi rhetoric and some of the 'hottest takes' from twitter on men and masculinity from so-called 'progressives'. People didn't just wake up one day and decide to slaughter Jewish people for the hell of it. The Holocaust was the culmination of centuries of demonising Jewish people and scapegoating them for all sorts of problems, o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/21 11:08 AM |
| 60 | Is it just me or is “fragile masculinity” just the new “man up” half the time?Use of the word 'fragile' is deliberately antagonistic. If someone is upset, for whatever reason, and you call them 'fragile', then, 99.99% of the time, you are not going to calm them down or bring them over to your way of thinking. This is obvious to anyone with the social aptitude of at least a 4 year old, and I say this as someone with relatively poor social skills. If someone labels scrutiny as 'fragility', then they are almost always being disingenuous and trying to provoke the critic into … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/06/21 10:36 AM |
| 59 | Poverty hurts the boys the most: Inequality at the intersection of class and genderPoverty hurts boys the most, but never forget: women are the main victims. None of this is new or surprising information. Not criticising you, OP, but the author of this article acts like they've had some sort of epiphany, yet all of these problems have been obvious and documented before. The first three paragraphs are almost like a defensive justification for having the audacity to talk about men's problems. That's not necessarily the authors' fault, of course, since there are some who would ch… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/06/21 11:38 AM |
| 4 | After the 2010 Haiti earthquake, the U.N set up women-only food lines. Men were left to starve.Interesting use of the word 'acknowledge', which implies a tacit agreement from the author; as if it should be taken for granted. Imagine making a similar statement about female victims. In fact, haven't campaigns against 'domestic violence' been chastised before for referring to victims as mothers, sisters, daughters, etc.? With push back being about how a woman's 'relation to a man' shouldn't be a factor. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/21 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityI can't say that I can speak to your experience, of course, I'm from the UK so I certainly have a different experience of gender politics. The issues in the UK can certainly largely be reframed as class issues, since many of the sexist constructs you talk about are already taboo and outlawed here. How does the WEF measure 'global gender equality'? It might be a bit of a tautology if it's standards revolve around things that are considered good within the capitalist sphere. Capitalism only pushes… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/21 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityMany of these problems stem from superstition, traditionalism, and poor education. I'm not saying that all gendered issues would be solved overnight with socialism, but that many of them would at least be mitigated due to their interaction with class dynamics. It's the same for boys in SSA; their mortality rate is extraordinarily high due to, I suspect, things like being them being drafted as child soldiers. I would not suggest that the solution is feeble 're-education' for warlords or programs … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/21 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Misandry and the 'B'I agree, I don't mean to suggest that my experience is normal or worse than anyone else's. I wanted to point out that people often stereotype homophobes a certain way, which is classist and somewhat misandrist. Homophobic women may not resort to violence as readily, but their words can hurt in other ways. Being LGBT doesn't make someone necessarily tolerant for others, even within the LGBT group. Plenty of biphobes and transphobes are homosexual, using terms such as 'gold star lesbian' and 'part… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/06/21 09:04 AM |
| 8 | Why are we afraid of male sexuality?Indeed! I am an atheist, but I have no problem with people having personal religious beliefs, as long as they're not hateful, of course. Some of these new age religions are deliberately manufactured out of hatred, misappropriating and bastardising the source material for spite. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 03:34 PM |
| 4 | Looking for resources: when does the burden of proof OFFICIALLY rests on the accused in sexual misconduct cases?I'm not a legal expert by any means, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. I'm from the UK, so that is the system I am most familiar with. Legislation is pretty easy to find in the UK, but the legalese can be an obstacle to making sense of it. Note that all UK-wide law uses masculine pronouns, but it is explicitly stated in law to be taken as gender neutral. The relevant law is the Sexual Offences Act 2003. Consent is defined in section 74. Sections 75 and 76 I think are the most relevant… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 03:29 PM |
| 37 | Why are we afraid of male sexuality?The Guardian itself is a pretty big platform for misandrists, especially the opinion pieces. Male sexuality has been demonised on various platforms for years; I remember reading all sorts of horrible, misandrist stuff that broke down my self-esteem when I was a teenager, at least 20 years ago. Explicit indictments of male sexuality as inherently bestial and insidious, something that corrupts the 'pure' feminine sexuality and destroys innocence. For some, male sexuality is genuinely considered a … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 02:31 PM |
| 5 | Looking for resources: when does the burden of proof OFFICIALLY rests on the accused in sexual misconduct cases?Sorry, I do tend to ramble a bit. I realise I got carried away after presenting the first source. I intended to at least answer that, in most cases of a 'he said, she said', the reality is that the accused will not even be charged. Some disingenuous activists will consider this to be a guilty man getting away unless proven otherwise, and their rhetoric can certainly be alarming and dangerously close to 'guilty until proven innocent', but the legal system does not (yet) convict people without evi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 01:59 PM |
| 12 | Looking for resources: when does the burden of proof OFFICIALLY rests on the accused in sexual misconduct cases?First of all, most rape claims do not make it to court precisely because of a lack of evidence. [1] Due process still exists, much to the chagrin of people who assume that any claim is substantial, so when it literally is 'he said, she said', then they cannot convict someone on that alone. Usually there isn't even enough evidence to charge someone. Incidentally, a false accusation is only recorded as such if it is proven to be deliberately perjurious; this can only happen if the accuser confesse… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityFair enough, I'm glad that there are feminists who care about it, of course. I'm not explicitly anti-feminist because I think most feminists do genuinely want to make the world a better place. It's unfortunately like many other causes: it has been co-opted and sanitised to serve the interests of capitalism in the mainstream, and certain, influential bad actors use it to improve their personal situation, at the expense of the broader movement's image. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 10:02 AM |
| 3 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityI would like to look into that source more carefully, but I will have to wait until a later time unfortunately. I did acknowledge that the experience can be different between men and women, and the article you've provided does at least agree that around the same proportion of men and women are in poverty overall. A few things that stand out to me, however, are raising red flags. I'll do my best to list my initial concerns, but I'd like to revisit it further: The presentation of the data. Reporti… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 09:58 AM |
| 2 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityOf course, it's not impossible for us to have had wildly different experiences. My own experience comes largely from what I've seen being at university for around 8 years, as well as the loudest voices on social media and in traditional media. Naturally, depending on where you are, the academic and media culture could be entirely different, with more of a focus on the importance of class. If so, then I envy you; in my experience, in the UK, class is ingrained into the fabric of society and taken… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/06/21 09:16 AM |
| 9 | Feminism vs IntersectionalitySadly, principle and practice don't always align. It suffers from similar issues as 'white feminism' in that its proponents are generally not from poorer strata and thus tend to minimise the influence of class due to their own bias. Acknowledgement does little to change this, and instead reinforces the misappropriation of the material circumstances of others. I realise this is what you mean by the liberal elite, but they consist primarily of aspirational academics and journalists and are the maj… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/06/21 09:27 PM |
| 31 | Feminism vs IntersectionalityMy impression of intersectionality has been that it's entire purpose is an attempt by some western feminists to remain relevant in the face of dramatically improving conditions for women in the west; ever since I first learned about it. Why? Because it is sometimes explicitly referred to as 'intersectional feminism' and I have witnessed people inappropriately attach the feminist brand to things that don't relate to it, such as mental illness and homophobia. In reality, feminism, on its own, is p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/06/21 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Misandry and the 'B'There's nothing wrong with a bit of hedonism, as long as everyone's happy - who cares? I will say that, for your first time, you should find someone who will help you relax and take things at your pace. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/21 01:35 PM |
| 4 | Misandry and the 'B'Of course, I believe that no one is obligated to have sex with anyone else. They can accept or refuse for whatever reason, even if it is bigoted - there is ultimately no obligation for anyone. If someone just broke up with me because of my sexuality, then I would be disappointed, but I'd accept it. The worst thing is the attitude and behaviour that people sometimes exhibit - they act like they know you better than you know yourself, they demean and patronise you, and they treat you like you're d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/21 01:33 PM |
| 11 | Misandry and the 'B'Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not only some secret that some women harbour, it's an attitude that is broadly accepted by society and rarely called out. I've never seen this particular issue discussed. Smart homophobes will play along, in general, to avoid drawing attention to their bigotry if they're among more tolerant company who will call them out for it; meanwhile, in my experience, some women are confidently open about this distrust towards bi men, and I've never had an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/06/21 01:23 PM |
| 16 | Misandry and the 'B'Thanks! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/21 02:14 PM |
| 20 | "Boys will be boys" has always meant rambunctious behavior like playing in the mud, climbing trees, etc, how were feminists able to instead change this meaning to the utterly false, "we shouldn't hold rapists accountable because, you know, boys will be boys" straw man?I think that's fair. Some people seem to not understand 'contextual semantics'; preferring to outright ban terms that are offensive in certain contexts, but perfectly appropriate or benign in other contexts. I absolutely agree that it is inappropriate to use 'boys will be boys' as an excuse for sexual harassment, but it would not be inconsistent to use it otherwise. So many arguments descend into futile feuds over semantics, where people simply disagree on what they think the other one means. An… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/21 02:14 PM |
| 86 | "Boys will be boys" has always meant rambunctious behavior like playing in the mud, climbing trees, etc, how were feminists able to instead change this meaning to the utterly false, "we shouldn't hold rapists accountable because, you know, boys will be boys" straw man?I think you're right, I had only heard it in a benign context until recent campaigns decided to co-opt it as being an excuse for sexual assault. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/06/21 01:23 PM |
| 10 | Why mainstream feminists keep writing in mainstream media about how men and fathers are unnecessary and disposable ?!Human parents aren't even 'necessary' for an child's survival, as the existence of feral children can attest. They might not be raised 'properly', by our standards, but they're alive and able to sustain themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/21 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Why mainstream feminists keep writing in mainstream media about how men and fathers are unnecessary and disposable ?!It's not wrong, but only in the sense that half the population disappearing overnight would be hugely disruptive. It would be just as disruptive if women suddenly disappeared, of course. It also leaves out the important point that most women are not explicit misandrists, just as most men are not explicit misogynists. I believe that severe, widespread depression from losing so many loved ones would bring civilisation down in such a situation, even if the logistics were taken care of. Only particu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/21 11:42 AM |
| 5 | Are you still boycotting Gillette?Yeah, that's the one I saw 'in the wild', but it turns out it's a recurring campaign of theirs in the US. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/21 05:30 PM |
| 6 | Homoeroticism and HeterosexualityWho better to understand the intricacies of male sexuality? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/21 03:09 PM |
| 6 | Homoeroticism and HeterosexualityIt's very interesting how some feminists assert that men simply can't relate to or understand the 'female experience', but then can be so self-assured about their understanding of men. We're not a homogenous group, we are as diverse as women or any other group. Some men probably do view women as little more than sexual objects, but to extrapolate that to all men is a gross generalisation and reductive. Similarly, there are plenty of women who don't understand consent, but it is often tacitly ass… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/21 03:07 PM |
| 37 | Are you still boycotting Gillette?P&G run adverts every Olympics saying 'Thank You, Mom', but never 'Thank You, Dad'. They were misandrist even before the Gillette advert. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/06/21 01:55 PM |
| 30 | Happy Pride Month to all our gay and bi community members! We stand with you!Given the (at least partial) co-option of Pride by capital for cynical marketing, it's important to remember that the fight is far from over. I know it's a bit of a meme now, but Pride is a perfect example of recuperation. Capitalism 'cares' now because they have coldly calculated that it is more profitable to be 'progressive' now, and only in more progressive places. They're fair weather friends in the sense that they act as if they're somehow subverting regressive norms by being vocal about th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/21 11:04 AM |
| 2 | #NotMe: On Harassment, Empowerment, and Feminine VirtueThe problem is similar to the question of whether performance enhancing drugs should be allowed in professional sports. It is all well and good to say that people who want to do something should be free to do so, even if it is ultimately harmful to themselves, but the real problem is how it would put pressure on people who can't or don't want to use drugs. It is similar because it is difficult to tell whether someone is going along with something because they're genuinely into it, or if they are… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/21 09:34 PM |
| 8 | Franz Kafka and the little girl.I was riding my bike when I saw a girl (maybe 10-12?) fall off her bike. I wanted to help, but I kept my distance and all I could do is ask her if she was ok. She said her wrist hurt and I told her to go and find her mother (I assume she lived nearby, since this was in a quiet residential area). It wasn't a particularly nasty fall, but it looked like she landed funny. Now of course I would have liked to help her properly, but the fear of my intentions being misconstrued is very real. Now, was my… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/21 08:22 PM |
| 23 | "The Future Is Female"No, no, you don't understand. I don't want to kill black people, I just want to gradually breed them out of existence. That's not really genocide, right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/21 09:03 AM |
| 5 | The response to Davina McCall's defense of men is dishearteningAny man whose “mental health” is damaged by women articulating their right to live without fear is a red flag. This part is a particularly disingenuous, but common, rebuttal. I don't personally have a problem with women articulating their fear of walking alone at night; of course many people, including many men (though societal pressures discourage us from admitting it), are often afraid when they walk down the street at night alone. It is a naturally scary situation to be in; it's pretty tellin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/03/21 11:34 AM |
| 17 | Why is it kam till trans? I'm not any less of a man because I'm not amab.True enough; perhaps it is the way people tend to word it. The problem with sentiments like those in the post is that it suggests transmen are essentially not men, since they are excluding transmen from the set of 'all men'. The underlying problem here, of course, is the clumsy misandry: 'kill all men' is an outrageous statement that shouldn't be tolerated in the first instance. The lack of nuance here necessarily leads to cognitive dissonance; it is a logical contradiction to be progressive on … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 06:06 PM |
| 20 | Why is it kam till trans? I'm not any less of a man because I'm not amab.I'm sorry you have to go through that; on top of the rampant misandry right now, too. Just know that I support and accept you, and I hope that helps. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 04:58 PM |
| 49 | Why is it kam till trans? I'm not any less of a man because I'm not amab.When people make exceptions like this for trans people, good or bad, then they are basically admitting that they still see them as not 'really' the gender they identify as. I've seen a few comments on Reddit recently that make the same exception for trans men in the context of things sentiments like 'I hate men'. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Exaggerating With Statistics (About Rape)Yeah, it's clearly misleading in a number of ways, but I saw plenty of people lap it up as a 'great representation of the stats'. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 02:49 PM |
| 11 | Some thoughts about recent discourseYes, I agree. I think it is counterproductive (to class unity) and divisive (to the benefit of the rich). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 02:21 PM |
| 8 | Some thoughts about recent discourseYeah, I read your post a few days ago. It did help me feel better, so thanks! It always gets to me when something happens and it brings out the 'men are awful' crowd. I am just as outraged at what happened to Sarah Everard and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it hurts even more to then be somehow associated with the guy who did it. I think I needed to post this myself just as a sort of catharsis, but I can delete if it's redundant or spammy. Thanks again! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 02:08 PM |
| 13 | Exaggerating With Statistics (About Rape)I once saw an 'infographic' where it stated: only 2% of men are falsely accused, compared to 20% who are rapists. It featured a grid of 'male' figures (like on the men's toilets), with 2 (literally two, not percent) shaded dark grey (to represent the falsely accused). However, I took a moment to count the number of rows and columns, and it turned out that there were more than 100 figures. So even going with the dubious '2% falsely accused', they made it look like a smaller proportion. Edit: I ac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 01:54 PM |
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