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| -2 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Obviously someone needs to be a breadwinner. However most “career driven” women aren’t really in useful fields. Most corporate marketing and Human Resources teams are DEI programs designed solely for employing women and making them think they don’t need a man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/26 07:42 PM |
| -3 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I don’t know how to say this without sounding like a douche, but personally, I think if he really were “pretty great”, he’d trust his biological instinct to want to reproduce and work towards that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I’m not describing men that want to be deadbeats. I’m talking about men that are driven enough to want to be present fathers. If they are that emotionally ready then they’re very likely successful in ALL aspects of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:55 PM |
| 2 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.The amount of men that truly want to be DINK aren’t very many. Certainly less than the women. And a lot of those “men” are soyboys who would rather drink and smoke weed once they clock off work instead of doing something meaningful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:27 PM |
| -4 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.It was a real Reddit post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:26 PM |
| 0 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.As a childfree woman you are inherently eliminating a large population of men and operating as if you have full access to all of them. That is the mindset of a child. “I want this, why can’t I have it!?” Think about why the other person doesn’t want it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:24 PM |
| -9 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.If they truly aren’t a consideration, the women I talked about (along with others) wouldn’t spend so much time crying over these men that they would choose but who won’t choose them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Kudos to you. I apologize for my snide comment about your username earlier. It just feels different now in the age where apps seem to be the socially acceptable option for dating. It’s so much easier to screen for men that check off every single box and I’ll admit I feel invisible as a slightly overweight, lower-class man without a “real job”. I’m working towards changing those things, but until I do, I personally think any time spent dating right now would be futile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Most women call Leonardo DiCaprio a “predator”, not exactly the argument to use here. Fair point with the others though. It’s not IMPOSSIBLE to find a driven man that doesn’t want kids. My point more so is: women shouldn’t cry about it on the Internet for sympathy points. It’s expected that it’ll be harder. If you don’t want to put in the hard work of serious vesting for a partner and her so easily burned out, then it’s time to either take a break or reassess prioirites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:18 PM |
| -6 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Sadly, going off “vibes” is the definition of the midwit meme. You can try to find all the statistics you can, but it really comes down to looking at people you want to emulate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I got my first girlfriend on the apps last year and then got broken up with over text because she said “she doesn’t want to be someone’s first girlfriend”, “isn’t ready for a relationship”, and that she wants to be “with a more established man”. So yeah. That hurt. I’m not going through that again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:12 PM |
| 0 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.From my personal experience, I think “girl boss” mindset is still in the mindset of a lot of millennials and Gen Z that think becoming a mother somehow “dehumanizes” them and that they were meant to give their whole life slaving to a corporation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Eh. Women want to date an established man. I missed my initial college window. She’s not gonna pick me on the apps over a guy who’s already gotten a nice salaried job with clear progression and can fly her to Turks and Caicos. And that’s fine. I just gotta work towards that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:07 PM |
| -2 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Well considering you willingly identify as red pill you’re probably not an above average man that I’m talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I realize that. Hence why I’m not dating right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:05 PM |
| -3 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Not wanting any children lowkey automatically makes you not a 10/10 when you think about what men truly value for attraction but I don’t think you’re ready for that conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:04 PM |
| -10 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I’m not gonna look up statistics for the sake of winning arguments. But think about successful men. Actors, musicians, doctors, lawyers, executives at F500 companies. Almost all of them have children. Like the most “successful” modern man that’s never had and doesn’t want children is probably Seth Rogen, and even then that’s because we know him as an immature stoner. If a woman wants a truly driven man, he’s going to be driven enough to also want to start a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Yup. You’re absolutely correct. As would a lot of women. Because they think deep down what I’m saying here: that driven men want children. But if I point that out, then somehow I’m “reducing women to not having their own autonomy.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:01 PM |
| -9 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Me pointing out typical human nature is not “solipsism” but sure keep using big words you learned in the wrong context to try and win Reddit arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I think they CAN want kids while not simultaneously acting on it right now. For example, I WANT a kid, one day. But that’s the thing: one day. I’m 25 right now and don’t make a ton of money. I’m grinding and taking a dating sabbatical to become the type of man that can attract a woman that eventually wants to be a mother one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:59 PM |
| -1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Well yeah, whoever makes more money should work. I’m not denying that. Just questionable to assume the man should automatically do it. Cause usually, the men that make enough to support a household with one income are the ones with more suitors. It’s really rare as a lower earning man to be able to attract a higher earning woman truly opening to challenge conventional gender norms like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:57 PM |
| -1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.As long as you realize that. I definitely understand trying to find a partner with that limitation can be very difficult and I sympathize. But some women think they’re “entitled” to a “10/10” man when there isn’t an incentive for the man to pick them. They can understand why they don’t pick a nice man that can’t provide her the life she wants, but can’t see it the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:40 PM |
| -1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Sure, you can keep misinterpreting what I’m saying, “hypersexual cult leader”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:38 PM |
| -5 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Can I ask why you’ve never wanted to have kids, genuinely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:35 PM |
| 4 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.In THIS economy!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:34 PM |
| 2 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Me pointing out human nature and the realities of the differing mindsets of men and women won’t make Prince Charming that makes $250k+ in finance yet doesn’t want a single child fall out of the sky and into your DMs. But hey, keep dreaming! Maybe it’ll happen! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.Which is why they tend to struggle more in dating! Doesn’t take away from my point. If a man walks into a room, would instantly be recognized as one of the top men and would have a lot of suitors to have offspring with him, you can’t be upset when he doesn’t choose the woman that doesn’t or can’t have offspring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:32 PM |
| -1 | Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that.I do agree with that. However, that ties into my point. I think that the main reason a lot of successful men put that work in early on and step up is to prove to her that one day he CAN be an excellent father. And if a lot of men don’t have an incentive to do those things outside of genuine love, which can be ripped away with a divorce, then they’re likely gonna keep sleeping around and not want to commit because well, there’s no incentive for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/26 06:32 PM |
| 3 | Having women as friend makes your dating life significantly easier as a manWhile making a friend through class, work, etc is fine, actively seeking out platonic friends of the opposite gender in 2026 is just such a no go from personal experience. It’s the perfect way to make you seem like the nice guy who isn’t masculine enough to get a woman to commit to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/26 10:13 PM |
| – | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?Honestly, that’s fair. I’m honestly more so talking about my cohort of Gen Z because this is an awful job market for new grads. I’ve seen a lot of Gen Z women shame Gen Z men for not having careers started yet. And then they wonder why men tend to date younger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/26 02:17 AM |
| 4 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?Yeah the problem is a lot of professional women seemingly look down on non traditional streams of income. And it’s hard to start a business with no money if you can’t get a high paying job. People typically start a business after having experience in a corporate salary role and if you pull that rung out, hard to build up those funds in the first place | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:11 AM |
| -4 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?It’s common sense. Someone with a 140 IQ shouldn’t be forced into their career where they aren’t able to fit that consistently. Just like how a disabled person shouldn’t be forced into manual labor. Let’s use some critical thinking skills here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:02 AM |
| -2 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?Gambling is stupid. I agree. I will call out both stupid men and women but some women will say “I’m just a girl” and act like any criticism is misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/26 01:01 AM |
| -1 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?It feels like most people in my circle have rich parents. I’m not mad at them per se but it’s definitely frustrating feeling like I have to fully self-make myself into a person that society seems acceptable. It’s already hard enough being an autistic man that isn’t seen as human by most of the population. Like people I went to school with their parents were paying for part of their rent or even all of it. I’ve never had that luxury. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:56 PM |
| 0 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?You CAN do both, but it certainly feels harder to do it in a society where everything is getting more and more expensive. I know a lot of 20-something’s like myself get financial support from their parents. I don’t have that luxury, I just wish people didn’t see me a moral failure just because I don’t have rich parents to help me get started. It is what it is though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:47 PM |
| -1 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?In this world you can always get laid off, have an emergency that happens, etc. You don’t HAVE to save but the world isn’t ending regardless of it a lot of zoomers and millennials feel that way. So saving is something I think every smart person should do and if someone isn’t willing to do that then I don’t think we’re compatible. Traveling is expensive. Like is all that travel really gonna be worth never owning that home? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:28 PM |
| 4 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?https://economics.yale.edu/sites/default/files/marley_finley.senior_essay.pdf This study shows similar qualified women received callbacks for software engineering jobs at a 41% higher rate than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:24 PM |
| -4 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?Women drive anywhere from 70 to 80% of consumer purchasing. It’s not sexist if it’s based off of real numbers. Humans lie but numbers don’t. I agree that sometimes you should have fun but it doesn’t, and shouldn’t, need to be ALL the time. Part of being an adult is making mature decisions that don’t have instant payoff but happen over time. Like just because I have the money to buy a trip to Europe doesn’t mean I should do it right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:22 PM |
| 6 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?I think older blue collar men have been successful because they were able to find people in a time where we aren’t as antisocial and superficial as now due to the world that COVID, late stage capitalism, and dating apps have created. However, young blue collar and underemployed men are definitely struggling and no personal anecdote can take away from that fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:17 PM |
| -3 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?I do agree that some men live like pigs. I have a bed frame, I try to cook, I try to keep a clean space. I try to hold myself to a higher standard. But there is a medium between never spending and never saving. Like why should I put all my spare money towards “traveling the world” when I can try to make investments towards a down payment and retirement? Not all money earned needs to be spent right away and I think most women (at least younger women) don’t fully realize that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:15 PM |
| -4 | What does the future of dating look like in a job market that favors women yet many of whom still won’t “date down”?I don’t look down on garbage men or blue collar workers. I know society needs them. However as someone with a very high IQ that always did very well in school, me being a blue collar worker would feel like a waste of my potential. I know I was put in this world to share my ideas. I wouldn’t be compatible with a blue collar woman off of that alone, but professional women tend to look down on these men and not even see them as people. Like a woman will sit in an air conditioned office built by men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 08:11 PM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Yup. Usually without headphones. Or let their kids run around, be a menace to society, and not say anything. I remember back in the day, if my sister or I would try to pull some fuck ass shit like that in public, we'd get one stern verbal warning and that if we fucked around again we were going home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:44 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Anyone that was ACTUALLY a server wouldn't call it low skill or effort. Low barrier of entry, maybe. But even then, 98% of restaurants don't hire people with no server experience. You're constantly juggling multiple tasks, on your feet for hours, having to deal with inconsiderate people and yelling kids. People will always want to go out to eat. It's nice to not have to cook. You're contributing to REAL memories. Not living your life on Gmail and Teams. Society would be impacted more if all the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:40 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.You automatically assumed that because I work in service, I don't have a strong foundational understanding of the world. Or that I can't critique anyone's life because I work in service. Or that I'm only in service because I'm "not educated". For someone that worked in the industry, you sure seem to have very negative opinions toward it, which is saddening. I don't want an HR job, I want HR departments to be shrunken down and better managed. There should not be fifty people on an HR team and yet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:32 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I use LinkedIn. I research. I have a stronger resume than a fair bit of people that get jobs over me. Not all by any means. But not an insignificant number. But the confirmation bias of heavily female HR departments makes it a lot easier for women to get jobs in the modern market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:27 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family."I've got nothing against it" *proceeds to be classist* I'm not in it by choice. I have a college degree. But no, I have to watch a bunch of fake jobs get created and handed out almost exclusively to women while people laugh at me and see me as "not a real adult". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:11 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Most corporate careers as a whole don't provide any sort of value to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:08 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I know the world operates on capitalism, I'm not a fucking child. There's a big difference between HAVING to participate in it, and actively choosing to trying to work your way up the corporate ladder and trying to become one of the billionaire CEOs that are actively killing our society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:06 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.And waiters provide more more value to society than 99.9% of LinkedIn girl bosses ever will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:02 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Oh my God you're delusional. "Protecting the community" from a cubicle and making social media posts for people to buy their products and put more money in the pockets of the billionaires. Right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 05:00 AM |
| -1 | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Most people that are anti family are miserable losers that can't get someone to be attracted to them, so they assume families are the problem and that everyone is being forced into families by our "male-dominated society" rather than doing any sort of actual, genuine reflection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:58 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I serve at a restaurant right now. Service workers are 1000% more useful to society than most corporate jobs. I'll stand ten toes down on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:56 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I think people that start in white collar generally have ambition. Obviously you need to do well in college, have enough skills, and be charismatic enough to land your first "real" job. Those need ambition. People want the prestige, the benefits, the stable hours. It makes sense. But too many people let it consume them. Get a false sense of superiority. Let work become their entire identity. They're not teaching the future, they're not saving people's lives, they're not protecting our community,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:53 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I'm sorry that happened to you. However, poor vetting on your part for a father does not constitute you a pass to say that all men are awful and don't do any work in parenting. My father is the best man I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:47 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.You're a wife - great! That's a family! Happy for you! Not everyone needs to have kids. I'm talking about people that are just anti family as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:46 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Most women don't date men younger than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:46 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I made it clear why I'm undecided, because I'm fundamentally disabled. I think I can be a good father when I'm 30-32, but I don't know yet. I'm operating from the perspective of a NORMAL person feeling that way, as there's no fundamental, life-altering barrier in place for them to truly feel that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:44 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.With all due respect, they're really not. They're good money, I get why people go into them, but they're not. It's adult daycare for people with no ambition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:42 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.I do think on average more men want to have children as compared to women, they want the chance to pass down their genes. There'll always be some losers in that aspect. And I don't think you have to have children to have a meaningful life! You can definitely do it with a partner. But that time should be put into other meaningful things. Giving back to your community, building a business that'll outlast you - not putting all your money towards seeing how many countries you can stay in a luxury ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:41 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Yeah I'm 25 so I'm primarily interacting with younger women. I imagine as time goes on some of them will change their mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:37 AM |
| – | I genuinely believe most women would be happier if they put more emphasis on trying to start a family.Saying that fathers don't do real work of raising children is a really fucked up thing to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/26 04:34 AM |
| -6 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Individual anecdotes aren’t exceptions to the overall norm. Happy for you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 07:38 PM |
| 1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.What IS biphobic is to reject bisexual men off the nature of being bisexual and while liberal women don’t do that EXPLICITLY they hint at it. I’m friends with a Black queer guy, he doesn’t date women anymore because she expected him to be this hypermasculine Black man and got the “ick” when he expressed interest in things like rap music by women. It’s fine if you want a patriarchal man, but just fucking say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:51 PM |
| -1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.I’m glad you mentioned the biphobia, that’s always pissed me off. I think my main point is that for all the talk about “dismantling patriarchal norms”, women still want to date and be seen with a man that’s traditionally masculine, and conservative men obviously do that way more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:11 PM |
| -2 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Most men in interests in those hobbies are blue collar men, who vote overwhelmingly conservative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:09 PM |
| 3 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.I’m sorry but a lot of women don’t truly know what they want deep down. That’s doesn’t make me a misogynist, it means I am not putting women on a pedestal and I’m seeing them as people, not goddesses. If anything, holding women accountable and not letting them get away with being immature little children does the world FAR more good than just bowing down to them. And I used to listen to women a LOT. I followed female dating coaches on tik tok and talked to “women friends” and wondered why I was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:08 PM |
| -3 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Saying you want a man that IS a liberal but ACTS conservative does feel a bit like Build A Man Workshop, no? You either want someone to mask their personality, or just act like a walking hypocrite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 06:03 PM |
| -1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Most liberal men have more empathy, which does usually directly contradict with confidence whether people want to admit it or not. It can be hard to look someone in the face and call them out on their BS or have a difficult conversation, because you understand that they are a person too with feelings and life is very nuanced and very rarely black and white. Not to be classist or anything, but most conservative men don’t think like that. They don’t think bigger than themselves. Hence why they’ll … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:59 PM |
| 16 | Modern dating is becoming more difficult because men and women are becoming increasingly ideologically dividedIt comes down to a lot of women disagreeing with the patriarchy, but only on their terms. They want to be equal to men, but still want a man that makes more than them. They want a man that's liberal and doesn't believe in gender norms, but still wants to treat her like a princess. It's like they're trying to go to Build-A-Man-Workshop and get upset that such a place doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 05:46 PM |
| 14 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureYeah the highly college-educated men I know genuinely do worse in dating than those that either didn't finish college, only got an associates or just didn't go. It's baffling. You put it into words better than I could have. They want intelligence but only to a certain extent so as not to feel intimidated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 09:56 PM |
| 0 | If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choiceI’m not even speaking from my own perspective. I like to go out, I love karaoke. But not all guys are like me, I still try to see things from their perspective. I was a virgin at this time a year ago and had never really gone past a simple kiss, and have now made out with over ten women and slept with three. I know I could operate a little better if I had more confidence, it’s just a little hard for me rn, which is why I’m gonna see a therapist about it. While yes obviously if a man repeatedly h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 07:51 PM |
| 0 | If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choiceI mean yes people used to go outside to meet people. However nowadays everyone is trying to push things onto the internet. You see it with dating and how “feminists” push the apps and have stigmas against IRL approaches so that all the power can be put into their hands and reject all the men they see as sub human. People aren’t open as they used to be so a lot of people probably don’t see the effort in going outside as a result. Some people just don’t like drugs in general. You make a fair point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 07:28 PM |
| 3 | If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choiceNot this simple for several reasons. - some people are new to cities without social circles and there’s still a stigma surrounding people that go out solo, especially men not everyone drinks alcohol the people that go out clubbing are probably not compatible for the more introverted people that don’t go out very much going out can be expensive and a lot of us don’t have much expendable money in this awful economy I could keep going but yeah, just because someone doesn’t go out dancing doesn’t me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Genuine question, why did you never go to college knowing it would likely open lots of doors for you? Seems like you would do very well in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Honestly I do WANT to be but as an autistic guy it would just require such a substantial rewiring of my brain and unhealthy amount of masking that I’d rather just try and be myself and hope I can find someone when I’m in my 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Honestly, I know I’m a pretty decent looking guy. I know that I’m probably not getting declined from that aspect. But I feel like it’s because I don’t display the confidence and masculinity expected out of me as a man. I have more “dorky” hobbies, I’m a little secluded at first due to being autistic and having to figure out if I can actually trust the person I’m around, I don’t exude a ton of that typical male energy. Like I understand dating is going to be a little harder for me as a result, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Yeah I think a 40 year old man pursuing a woman in the first half of her 20s on some Leo DiCaprio shit is a bit more suspect. But I’ve seen people call a 30 year old wanting to date a 23 year old a “predator” which is also an equally egregious thought piece. IMO, once you’re both 24-25, you can date whoever. I understand why women want older men, however then women can’t be mad that men date younger as a result, if that makes sense. Idk if you watch Love Island but seeing the opposing discourse … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Between companies auto rejecting people that don’t have every keyword in their resume, “entry level” jobs wanting 3-5 years of experience, and there being a lack of openings due to the orange man ruining our economy, it’s a little bit tone deaf to say that I’m only to blame. With all due respect. I’m applying for jobs all the time and trying to network. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I don’t have the money to move? It’s very difficult to save in this economy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I do have a job. Three of them actually. Good job making assumptions about my life though! I am trying to get a career started, I want one. But being robbed of that opportunity admittedly makes me a little jaded. I went to school, got good grades, got an internship, did everything “right”, and it still isn’t enough. Since I majored in the humanities, it kind of reinforces my mindset. Because I didn’t major in business, finance, engineering, or things that most “men” do, I get accused of not bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.It’s more about experiencing new experiences and perspectives rather than just the education itself. You don’t have to have a career in what you went to school for. I work food service but still have my education and am job searching. I most likely have more in common and would be happier with a fellow college degreeholder that doesn’t have a “professional” job than someone working in blue collar that makes six figures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.They make money though. I think a lot of college educated women want someone at least as educated as them. I think that’s why I’ve struggled in the dating scene. Cause I have a college degree and want a partner with at least a bachelors degree so that we can have engaging conversations about the world and life. And men with bachelors degrees typically aren’t going to go into blue collar work. That’s why they went to college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/26 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Cause I don’t wanna risk getting fired over flirting and having it taken the wrong way, and then not being able to find a job in this cut throat job market thus resulting in becoming homeless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 09:06 PM |
| -1 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I have a college degree. This market is terrible and I’m doing what I can to get by until a more “real” opportunity comes my way. Honestly, with tips, I can make pretty good for myself. I made $150 in tips for a four hour shift the other day. Only reason I’m not better off financially is because I’m paying off some CC debt (made a few dumb decisions but that’s part of being an adult). Bartenders, servers, cleaners, cooks, etc are the reason you’re able to go out and have fun. They are real jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 08:11 PM |
| -3 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.And my experience is very similar to what a lot of average men my generation have to deal with. You just don’t see that many people talk about it because when they do try to be vulnerable there come the labels. “Incel!” “Red pill!” “Maybe you’re just ugly!” And then people act shocked when these men stop dating! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.No see the fact you see it that way kinda proves my point. The restaurant business IS a career for some people. You’re not just working with teenagers and college students. There are “real” adults there. You don’t want work drama cause that can affect your reputation there and word of mouth can get around. So by insinuating my job is “just a teenager job” and that I should try to sleep with someone I work with, you’re kind of proving my point that people don’t respect me simply because of what I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:59 PM |
| -3 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.“Wanting to be loved unconditionally” and “Not accepting someone that basically didn’t see them as a real person when they were younger and would give all other kinds of men attention but now want to settle down because they’re tired of situationships that were of their own creation” are simultaneous thoughts that can exist without being hypocritical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:50 PM |
| 2 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Honestly it’s not ableism. I know I probably need to find a neurodivergent person in order to be accepted. I just wish having autism wasn’t a death sentence when interacting with neurotypical people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:44 PM |
| 6 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I mean you’re not wrong. But most autistic people are introverts. Hard to meet people that don’t go out very much. I feel stuck in no man’s land as an extroverted autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:43 PM |
| 4 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.You don’t shit where you eat dog. Work relationships are an awful idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:42 PM |
| -4 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I mean, most of them for sure. I didn’t have really any dating experience before this and know it’s unrealistic to expect a Hallmark movie level spark in an hour and a half over a drink or dinner. So I just wanted to test the waters, see if something more could brew over time, unless I found out a red flag date one. Which happened 6-7 times. But I guess I didn’t pass the Chad filter so I get the “no spark” comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:36 PM |
| 5 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.This is my experience from real life. I used dating apps for a year and an half and did what society said I should do. I always planned AND paid for the first date, asked her questions, had witty banter, etc. Out of my 41 first dates, only 9 turned into a second date, 5 of those turned into a third, and I got 1 short term relationship that ended after three months because “I’m not ready for a relationship” yet was seeing another guy a month later and kept me around as a backup option. If women t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:16 PM |
| 0 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.Happy for you. However, an individual anecdote doesn’t change the larger cultural trend being an overall truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:09 PM |
| -4 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.I didn’t say every woman child or pet is loved unconditionally but they CAN be loved on their own merit, it’s very rare for a man to be picked without being so much more dominant than his female counterpart from a sociological and status perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:05 PM |
| -27 | Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships.You’re misinterpreting my point. Men overwhelmingly choose women based off their character. Women overwhelmingly choose men based off their salary, height, and looks. It’s not a fair comparison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/26 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?I think it’s where nuance comes into play. I’m 25. I don’t have kids. Don’t even know if I want to have one. Ideally I’d like to find a woman that wants to live a DINK lifestyle but more so just want to find someone that likes me for me first. I don’t think 50-50 is “we always split the bills”. Obviously the woman takes time off for maternity leave, etc, and the man can and should help out more then. But using the hypothetical instance of being a mother ONE day as a way to always have that situa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:38 AM |
| -12 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?People ARE allowed to wait on their standards but that also means dealing with the consequences. When a woman hits 45, becomes infertile, and was hoping for a millionaire so that she could keep going on trips to Turks every year and drive a Tesla while not having it financed by herself, she can’t try and make everyone feel awful for her when it’s the decision that a GROWN ASS ADULT made. I don’t give a fuck what choices people make, I don’t wanna date someone that guilt trips me or makes me feel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:24 AM |
| -4 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Not gonna take my time to find rhetoric that borders on gender essentialism just to feel like I won a Reddit argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:21 AM |
| -4 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Men are still raising the children...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:20 AM |
| -8 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Both sides sacrifice but I don’t think the sacrifices are usually equal. Women typically sacrifice not being able to go on trips every year and buying lots of material goods they don’t need, men are expected to now find multiple people on one income. Don’t quite see those as the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:19 AM |
| -10 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Content based off of opinions of real people that clearly genuinely think this way and that other delusional people semi agree with. I can’t keep having this bad faith “nuh uh” ass type argument with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:12 AM |
| -7 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?So close to understanding what I’m saying. A lot of people operate from the perspective of “no one is choosing me” rather than from the perspective of “people have chosen me but I haven’t wanted to choose them because I feel like I deserve (insert blank level of person)”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:09 AM |
| -26 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?So you’d rather just assume that all these women are lying and that it doesn’t actually represent the cutthroat nature of modern women and everyone feeling entitled to a top 10% men of society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:08 AM |
| -2 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?The problem is not successful people looking for other successful other people - although judging someone solely based on their success when some people have way better support networks than others isn’t always the most fair way to look about it and won’t necessarily lead to the best LTR. The problem comes from wanting to find someone very successful, and they are sacrificing their life of comfortability in being single, for a future you. Hence it’s hypocritical to not also do the same. A man is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 02:01 AM |
| -20 | Why are there so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle with no sacrifice whatsoever?Just go on Tik Tok and look up “my relationship red flags” or “what I’m looking for in my next relationship” or anything adjacent. They almost always mention the man making more than her, no “going 50-50”, being able to keep her current lifestyle; etc. I think some single women (probably more than would willingly admit) would be genuinely happy single. Which is great, a relationship isn’t for everyone! But don’t spend so much time actively looking them or posting online trying to belittle men th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/26 01:56 AM |
| 1 | I'm tired of the dating-app-ification of the job marketI mean, conservatism has been objectively bad for America. I don’t support conservatism. But I’m also against women choosing when they want and don’t want the consequences of independence and autonomy. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/26 09:45 PM |
| 5 | I'm tired of the dating-app-ification of the job marketYou’ve gotten very lucky. Good for you. But most women don’t want to spend money on a guy. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/26 03:07 PM |
| 10 | I'm tired of the dating-app-ification of the job marketI shouldn’t be forced into blue collar just because I am a man. That’s why I went to college. I’m very intelligent. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/26 12:35 AM |
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