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But I didn’t say they should be forced in any way to do something. I just said that men deserve justice for that shit. And it is indeed not fair. In fact, it’s extremely unfair. I can’t even out a number on that. Having your avenues to a meaningful part of life and happiness be blocked over things you can’t control and having to live with chronical stress, that in some cases can take years from your life away, is not it. That’s real damage based on unfairness that human beings can take full resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:56 PM

Lol what. You are putting words into my mouth again. I’m not saying women should be forced to have sex with certain men. I’m saying that men deserve justice for being discriminated against. No man deserves chronical stress (real damage) over things that can’t be controlled. And yes the ratio you brought up is true. But its so negligible, that I call it 1:1. In principle, the chances of getting a female or a male are completely equal 50/50. it’s just that female fetuses tend to be more vulnerable…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:58 PM

I thought women didn’t care as much about sex. Sexual attraction isn’t relevant in romance. A man doesn’t exist to fulfill your sexual needs. They’re people who deserve to be loved and to have a family of their own. Why would I make myself gay when two genders exist and when those genders are complementary? Two individuals of the same gender aren’t complementary. Sexual orientation is completely different from the preferences you are talking about. So once again, bad logic. I don’t believe prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:02 PM

You’re proving the point of my post. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:00 PM

That’s a strawman. Where did i say that? You’re now putting words into my mouth. Wanting people to get justice for the discrimination they face doesn’t equal wanting others to be legally required to go through that terrible experience. And no, it isn’t natural. I’ve dived into this so I know what I am talking about. Nature produces 1:1 ratio and it’s very functional. It’s literally evolutionary a very bad road if there’s an unfair monopoly that keeps some individuals from reproducing even though…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:59 PM

Did you even read what I wrote? I’m saying it’s fine that not all women are attracted to me, even though I feel very attractive lol. But it becomes extremely unfair, when you get zero positive attention. Because that literally limits your dating options even though most women aren’t above you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:54 PM

Not that. Most men I know have no issue with being rejected if it’s just a few. They have a problem when it becomes structural and when they don’t get the positive feedback they deserve proving those women wrong as often. It’s very annoying and limiting when you’re being structurally deprived of romantic options even though countless of women are objectively within your league. (I hate to talk about leagues)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:37 PM

How the hell do you compare those preferences? And human’s can think rationally, so your point doesn’t make sense. We aren’t irrational robots. Preferences like this can actually change, as a human’s brain is very flexible and the PFC has a lot of power. If what you’re saying is true, then it implicates it was never really about the person they’re with. It’s all consumption. And their love seems to be just a mask to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:34 PM

There’s nothing natural about men struggling with dating. It’s in evolution’s interest (if it exists) for every man with an unique set of genes to reproduce because sexual reproduction is about genetic variation. But fuck that biology. I just want love with a woman i’m interested in. Discriminating standards based on uncontrollable things should be illegal imo as they harm people in a world where there’s no scarcity. This is incredibly unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:32 PM

Dating isn’t supposed to be unfair with a 1:1 gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:26 PM

But most people do. Marriage is the relationship goal of many people I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:20 PM

There is no difference in value between people. I also don’t see how a woman is more valuable than me. What does she have that I don’t? What can she do that I can’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:05 PM

But I want a lifelong relationship, so obviously I want a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:42 PM

That’s so false lol. Even now EVERY man is being drafted once they are old enough. And I’m not there to be selected. I want to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:11 PM

https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2018/05/war-clan-structure-explain-odd-biological-event Nice try. There are a lot of sources refuting this. It’s mathematically and biologically impossible that men aren’t attractive to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:09 PM

Because I’m structurally being disadvantaged, while others have an easier time over what exactly? I’m just being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:07 PM

Please show me studies that confirm the point you’re trying to make in your last paragraph. A Stanford study shows that most of those men who did’t reproduce in the past didn’t do so, because bloodlines were organized in clans and they used to wipe out entire bloodlines. The wars in the past that young men were forced to fight also plays a big role. And why do you compare humans to other primates when we’re cognitively above them at most aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:03 PM

Wtf. That’s literal discrimination. I’m not asking for things to go one-sided. When I put in effort, I expect the same effort back. I believe in reciprocation. I’m not there to validate’s someone’s ego omg. I don’t use dating apps, but i hear from men with whom women match with, that it’s almost always one-sided. Women who MATCHED with them. Why match if you won’t even try to build a romantic relationship? I can see where the frustration comes from when using those apps. It’s either absolutely l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:58 PM

With billions of people on earth, how can people be unattractive? And how’s that biologically possible when attraction is subjective? Evolution is about genetic variation. Sexual reproduction van maximize genetic variation. So why would it not be in “nature’s interest” to have every individual reproduce, who has good enough genes to make it to adulthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:34 PM

Real empathy from people who are being paid to listen to you? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:10 PM

Why would I use dating apps when men outnumber women out there and when i’ve heard a lot of time’s that it’s hell for many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:01 PM

I’m not motivated when the odds seem to be stacked against me because of the gender, I was coincidentally born with. If i knew that my chances of succes were high, i’d be much more motivated. I’m very efficient with my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:59 AM

I’m young, but that doesn’t mean I can’t think critically?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:32 AM

Well, school was a comfortable place for me to potentially meet a partner, but guess what? I didn’t get the chances because of how unapproachable women were (they didn’t give signs implicating interest) and because they didn’t approach me. The most ideal situation to me would be meeting a partner at a train or something. You know, that great romantic story. I’d love for it to spontaneously and organically happen rather then me having to actively look. But I don’t get the chances to this way of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:24 AM

What studies do show that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:11 AM

What the hell? That’s what YOU are making out of it. It’s a very normal answer. People treating each other like human beings would do very good. I’m not an object that has to live up to some specifics. This kind of discrimination that can harm real people should be criminal. Women setting the first step would give me more romantic chances. I mean, feminism is against traditional gender roles right? Men shouldn’t be expected to be hunters then. That’s a gender role that does harm some men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:05 AM

That’s not good advice. And I don’t see how that is relevant for love, as it says nothing about someone’s essence and is something no one has chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:58 AM

Even if just 5% of all women would be compatible with me. It’d still be in the millions. My philosophy is that life isn’t unfair. People are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:57 AM

And why should I believe you? That aside, I already subtly gave the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:52 AM

You know it damn well. You’re probably either trying to get a certain reaction to attack me on or this is rhetorical. If i was approached more often, I wouldn’t be struggling. As well if clear signs of interest were given. There are more than 4 billion women. This means that it doesn’t mathematically make sense that i struggle. Things are extremely unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:48 AM

Easy. There are billions of people. There is no lack of them, so it can be easily changed by people. This is probably a rhetorical question, because the answer should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:38 AM

Yes I’m absolutely picky. Because I don’t like those places and I won’t go get a hobby for the sole purpose of finding a partner. I have to actually enjoy it and feel comfortable in that. And no clubs, social networks and things like that aren’t things I’m comfortable in. Your last paragraph doesn’t make sense. Wanting men to leave you alone, doesn’t explain why women don’t approach men. It’s just another side of men HAVING TO approach women, because they don’t get approached themselves. That me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:34 AM

I’d like to meet my partner at uni, work, at the train or something like that. Not through a team sport i’d never join otherwise. Why can’t women just initiate? It’d make things so much easier and more fair, instead of shit being so one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:21 AM

Even though what you’re saying is true. There are BILLIONS of women and millions of potential matches and probably a thousand i’d be actually interested in. I AM forced to live a life being single while I don’t want to. This is huge unfairness. They seem to be very fake. Also, I don’t understand what your comment has to do with my post. I’m talking about unfairness and this is unfair. I’m not looking for unasked comments from people who probably have agenda’s. I know that they aren’t there to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:05 AM

I know countless of men on dating apps who are pure, but sick of the women on there that either ghost or don’t put in the effort no matter how much effort they put in. Also sick about the “looking for short term” or “fun” on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:02 AM

That’s a stroman and you want to be taken seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:56 AM

Advice isn’t good if it doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:46 AM

I want equal chances. Like I said to someone else, some people not being interested in you, okay. I can live with that. But the moment it becomes structural, it becomes a big unfair disadvantage. It reduces your chances of actually meeting someone you can match with and who’s interested in you. I have the right to not be discriminated against at an important part of life. At least morally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:43 AM

Idc to be honest, because that doesn’t make my desire for love and a family any less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:32 AM

Of course I do. I’ve always had the expectation that people would value me the way i am. Why would the effort have to be so one-sided? That’s not unfairness. That, in my perception, means that I’m just feeding their ego’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:23 AM

That’s exactly the inequality I’m talking about. You can’t date whoever you want when you are structurally being deprived of your romantic chances. Some people not wanting to date you, alright. But when it’s almost everyone you meet, it takes away at your chances, let alone finding someone I am actually interested in and compatible with. And the inequality is simple: some people having more options then others, for literally what? They’re all just people who are very unique. At this point it’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:11 AM

Wtf is this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:03 AM

No, I’m looking for real empathy and good advice that aren’t clichés, because I’m not planning to struggle any longer with something as basally as love. In fact, I’m not supposed to struggle. And what’s an “incel”. It’s funny how people are just confirming my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:00 AM

This is a stroman and another fallacy. I won’t bother arguing with you anymore. Discrimination based on factors you can’t control is injustice. Things like personality can be controlled. But others aspects can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:39 PM

That is false. Those studies are probably sociological studies. They aren’t psychology or neurobiologically based. They are pattern based. I care about biology only, because that’s the most fundamental discipline that shows the raw truth in this context. And the truth is, men’s and women’s brains aren’t that different. And they have the same desire for a partner. One chromosome difference won’t change that. The only thing that differs is that men have a higher libido generally speaking due to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:53 AM

No that’s not true. They just have more opportunities when they’re young. There is no study that shows that men need women more than women need men. It’s pretty much as strong within women and men. “But for men I agree” while being a woman? Interesting. And it can’t mitigate it. It just distracts you from it. It doesn’t turn off the desire for a family and significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:12 AM

Yeah, but all those men that are struggling aren’t objectively unattractive. I’m not objectively unattractive either. If i compare myself to a lot of women, I see that many of them are within my league. And that’s facts. Most women are average, so most women are within the leagues of most men. There is injustice. You can change your competence. You can’t change factors however that are out of your controls. Biological useless factors. There are 4B+ women. It almost feels impossible that dating f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:37 AM

You do. You don’t speak for other people. That’s unfair on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:35 AM

They are indeed not the same thing. Discrimination within dating is much more harmful because it hits a human being at the core. Real damage is being done by this systemic exclusion. This is scientifically proven. It’s still injustice. It’s still unfair inequality that hinders real human beings in getting a family and love when they’re ready for it. That directly limits their own autonomy at one important aspect of human happiness. This is in no way a luxury. This shows us that opportunities to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:17 AM

It is, because it’s distunguishing. But the difference is, it disadvantages no one. Women are attracted to men either generally speaking, so they also discriminate based on sex when looking for love. Discrimination based on factors that shouldn’t matter in love disadvantages a lot of people. You see the difference. One is negative, the other is neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:10 AM

You dont decide what others think lol. I’d never have my self-love so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:07 AM

Brother, when it’s systemic it’s really unsustainable to not call it discrimination. Preferences and “tastes” are intrinsically supposed to be diverse. And it’s mathematically and biologically impossible to be unattractive to THAT much people. It is absolutely discrimination when there’s a distinguish being made based on factors one cannot control. We call shit like that discrimination everywhere. A company not choosing you based on who you are as a person for a job and therefore rejecting you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:02 AM

I almost feel zero libido, but still only want a compatible female partner. Why? Because the romantic component of the desire is very active.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:00 AM

I’m not talking about sex, I’m talking about romance. That’s a field where discrimination shouldn’t happen, because it’s about love and creating a family right? Men are being discriminated over things that biologically shouldn’t have value. I mean, what’s height. What’s the benefit of being tall? Don’t studies show that it can be negative? Where’s a study that shows a correlation between facial symmetry, tallness and genetic fitness? Find me those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:56 AM

Says who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:54 AM

No, no, no, I was talking to YOU. That’s a fallacy right here. Are you implicating that you do discriminate? Pretty weird considering two of feminism’s core values are: equivalence and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:40 AM

People are unfair to others by discrininating them. And that’s exactly the case here. If you distinguish between people based on things they cannot control? That is unfairness and injustice to them if it happens on a larger scale. Because at that point it isn’t incidental. It’s a structural barrier in them fulfilling one of the deepest and oldest human needs. And the worst part is: they never asked for that barrier. Also, even if someone ends up in a relationship because of “desirable” traits, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:23 AM

I mean, why would I have to? I’m not my outside. I’m my inside. What value does the outside have? I’m not there to entertain someone visually. I’m there to love and to be loved. To start a future. To start a family. That’s where I’m there for. And from how I look, I know that I should have many women within my league. So i don’t understand why they don’t approach often.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:01 AM

“Met the kind of person I want” People aren’t products. And that’s good on you. To me it feels like hell. It may be that you have more opportunities and options than I do, so you can afford yourself to be more content than I am being single. Just like people in welfare are more content without food and water at a given moment then people living in poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:57 PM
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What does it have to do with his comment though? He literally said that he won’t be having that most likely - probably because of unfair barriers more than his own choice - so why’d he want to hear this rather than actual advice that suits his own situation? Also the fact that he’s being settled for just because he’s seen as a stable choice while those people had partners before him (which to me is one of the most uncomfortable things to deal with) is disgusting frankly. Seems like being used mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:48 PM

Money is much more valuable than any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:20 PM

It is discrimination. And I believe it’s structural when it’s not just some individuals participating in excepting you (because of literally what?) but most members of that group you come across in daily life. I won’t be approaching anyone. I expect women to approach me and I’m sure it will happen. You cannot fool me at all. I don’t fall for the manipulation. Not that it should matter, but everything I look at the mirror, I see an attractive man. Most important of all, I’m intelligent and mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:34 PM

I doubt that it’s a recent cultural concept. The only reason I want romance is because I want to love and be loved. This is one of the deepest natural feelings. It’s not rare. Most people marry for love. I don’t know a single couple that doesn’t love each other. What’d I use a woman for? There’s not much I can use them for (aside of it being morally wrong) Arranged marriages are great. If someone struggles with dating, then their family finding them someone that suits them in their own vast netw…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:21 PM

It’s not wrong at all lmao. Just because it doesn’t fit with women’s narrative, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. I shouldn’t struggle with getting basic human needs met. I deserve to have a family of my own and an attractive partner (don’t want to settle, no matter how much I struggle), just like everyone does. There is no shortage of women and potential partners in this world. The fact that men struggle much more than women is the definition of inequality and that’s unjustitiable. Men that want a famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:09 PM

No I think negatively of me and other men lacking the freedom of choice of when and with whom we’d like to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:43 PM
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Because it’s some. Most women I see pursue love. Why would it be most women? What makes them different from men? Both desire romance equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:23 AM
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“Men want to marry” It’s the opposite: women do (because many of them apparently state all the time that they don’t care about sex and want a “genuine” connection) Otherwise there wouldn’t be so many male cheaters. I mean, the whole reason women have so many options is because of men’s libido and not desire to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:41 PM
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So it’s about her own benefits, rather than loving me for who I am? No wonder so many men feel used or struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:12 PM
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There is no solution needed. Women and men don’t differ that much in their fundamental drive for a partner (libido aside) For every man there are countless of potential partners statistically and biologically. The whole reason men pursue a partner is because of their biology, i don’t see how that’d be different for women. And if that’s the issue, lowering their ungrounded standards that doesn’t reflect their value most of the time would be the easy solution. I don’t fall for the “i’d rather stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:00 PM
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Biology is universal. The whole reason men desire relationships and suffer when they are involuntarily single is because of biology. I don’t see how this’d be different for women. They just like men suffer when they are socially isolated. In fact, scientific evidence shows that it tends to be even more harmful for them than for men. This is because those are needs hardcoded into our brains. Both romance and community are very important and serve different evolutionary purposes. Romance is probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:49 PM
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Why would she? Lmao, this just shows that women like you are completely aware about the struggles some men face. And it probably advantages you guys, that’s why you don’t empathize with men like me huh. The fact that you expect women to be advantaged by default is interesting. It’s logical that many women can be happier single when they believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:48 PM
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Why would we have to add value to her life? We aren’t there to be used, we’re there to be loved for who we are. And what peace? I’m not a woman, but i know for sure how relationships work and they outweigh the things you are talking about because they fulfill the fundamental biological need to romance and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:32 PM
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No of course not. But women’s standards shouldn’t be the reason men struggle with getting a relationship and building a family of their own. I couldn’t care less about some women’s standards. I’m sure many of them will stay single if those don’t reflect their value (I see that many women have higher standards than they’re worth and for what they have to offer) I only care about it when they affect me negatively in dating in the sense that I barely have noticeable dating options and opportunities…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:30 PM
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So you’re confirming that some women have used men? Wow. And you’re also probably indirectly confirming that many women don’t like men for who they are, but for what they have and can provide them (why are there otherwise so many single young men?) This would contradict the statement of many of you wanting a genuine connection. Sure there are women that want a genuine connection, but if they set conditions on something as simple as their love, it doesn’t feel genuine, because it’s not unconditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:19 PM
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This makes zero sense. When you have dating options and opportunities (which many women do when they’re young apparently) it becomes much easier to stay single and to have high standards (even if those standards don’t even reflect your real value lol) There are many men with a decent amount of dating options and they can be more content single. But there are also men that struggle immensely. At that point they are basically forced to lower their standards against their will in order to fulfill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:54 PM
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No it’s not? That’s what shallows that use others for personal gain and don’t love sincerely make out of it. Dating is supposed to be about the unique individual (isn’t that what women say all the time? Didn’t they value genuine connection?). And not all people have coupled up because they were oppressed, died quickly or because they didn’t want to. Nowadays statistics show that pretty much everyone couples up. But some people face unacceptable difficulties in getting a relationship, which is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:38 PM
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Who wouldn’t I be mad if many people don’t want them for them? This is a very normal feeling. Dating isn’t about chances. I want a woman that I am attracted to only. I don’t want “chances” with women I don’t desire. But the lack of options and dating opportunities can make men lower their standards. I never said I want a society where women are codependent on men. I said that I want love and that women stating that they are happy single frustrates me because I’m already so disadvantaged to the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:45 PM
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Men pay for dopamine and this is just one case. Most of those women aren’t desired by many men. Also most OF models don’t make money they can live off thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:40 PM
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I am looking at it from a neutral lens. You obviously seem to have a narrative already. I talk about what i observe and i know no single woman that’s content. Only when they have options. Also how can a widow be happy when her man died? I don’t know why, but this feels so morally wrong wtf? Romantic relationships are necessary. The degree to which you feel that need differs depending on your options and opportunities. Like I said before, people who can eat and drink at any time they please, don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:02 PM
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No it’s not about that. It’s about being disadvantaged already because of discrimination. Women staying single and gaslighting others into that same life is what advantages me on top of that, because it limits my own dating options. I wouldn’t care about them staying single if I didn’t struggle. This refutes your claim already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:46 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know any. I only know those that are sad. The only happy one’s I hear about are on social media. But are they really happy if they have to convince others of it? Doesn’t seem like it. There’s probably an agenda behind it. Romance is one of the most important things spiritually and biologically speaking. Much more important than sex, so this reinforces my belief that there’s something behind it even more. They can be happier single because they have more dating options and opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:34 PM
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God didn’t make women attracted to a small percentage of men. Biologically speaking all men have attractiveness to the right women. There are countless of potential partners for every man. Biologically speaking tallness and height don’t even matter in a man’s attractiveness that much (it’s WOMEN making it matter, not their biology) Men are also attracted to a select few of women, because no one will be attracted to everyone, yet women don’t struggle when they are young. God created a very balanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:15 PM
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How the f*ck am I supposed to like them if that’s what they are like? Why do they lie about seeking depth if this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:03 PM
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Naturally speaking men aren’t supposed to not have romantic succes. Any fertile man that survives is supposed to reproduce, because sexual reproduction isn’t about your eggs, it’s about genetic variation. And the more people reproduce, the better. There’s also genetically compatible people for everyone. I don’t understand how women would have more romantic succes if most of men’s attraction towards them is sexual. Though I want romance. Reproduction and sex (don’t even like it that much) are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:56 PM
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Another fallacy. There are billions of women. So why wouldn’t there be countless of women that like me for me, just as it’s supposed to be statistically? Doesn’t make sense. When it’s not some, but most women you meet, it is structural, because they’re all excepting you, thus limiting your own ability to choose with whom you want to partner up and when you want to partner up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:12 PM
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I don’t criticize that, I criticize that it limits my own dating options and opportunities which makes fulfilling a fundamental human need more challenging than it has to be. I’m allowed to resent them for that, because this IS injustice. Discrimination is injustice by definition. As is only valuing someone for the perks they provide you, thus using them. There’s no reason to love a shallow asshole if it’s not reciprocated. If you are invisible to them (deliberately probably lol) over what? Bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:57 AM
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I don’t have a problem with some women not wanting me at all. I have a problem when it becomes so structural that fulfilling the natural deep desire to romance suddenly becomes much more challenging. And finding a woman you actually desire becomes even more difficult. I believe that everyone with the natural desire to love would have a huge problem with that, because they’re basically dependent on others then rather than having the ability of choice themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:40 AM
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Discrimination based on things I have zero control (even though most of them aren’t perfect themselves) disadvantages me. I want an equal partner. I want a deep romantic relationship. I believe that I have a decent personality, yet I’m not liked for who I am apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:39 AM
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Of course not. I just want someone to like me for me. That’s what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:32 AM
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It unjustifiably disadvantages men in dating. I just want love with a suitable woman. Sure, I have standards, but they aren’t that high. It takes infatuation. I don’t want getting something as simple as a romantical connection with a person of the opposite sex destined for you to be so unreasonably and disproportionally difficult (for what you get out of it) in a world with an equal balance between the genders and theoretically plenty of fish in the ocean. What do you mean with your last sentenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:13 AM
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This question was mainly meant for men, not for the (probably) gaslighting women I am talking about. My question was what those men thought about it personally and if they feel the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:11 AM
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Okay? I don’t care, you do you. The fact that you had to brought those things up, shows that you are trying to convince me. Doesn’t seem like real happiness, seems like gaslighting people into a false narrative.The only thing I care about is being disadvantages myself in getting something as simple as a relationship. I have family too and a network, but when you’re so disadvantaged that you do not have the dating options and opportunities that you should have, you still feel the emptiness of not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:04 AM
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I don’t. Though no one prefers to be alone, who could give a fuck about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:29 AM
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But isn’t it this that disadvantages many men in dating? Genuinely curious. Because many men feel discriminated against based on things they have no control over (you can’t change the genes you’ve been given)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:20 AM
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What a b*tch (i’m sorry) That should be illegal. It’s truly harmful. Not only for you, but also for the kids and probably the person she cheated on you with (it’d certainly make me uncomfortable knowing I’m with someone who cheated on a fellow man) And yes you’re right. However, i’d like to be needed biologically by them. This makes them desire men in the first place. Not for external factors like finances and stuft like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:17 AM
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How am I otherwise supposed to get a relationship? I have the right to be liked for who i am and not for what I have or what i provide. I do not exist for their personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:13 AM
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That makes sense. For example, I see how they say how much they want equality between the genders. But I don’t see them adress the huge ineuqualities between the genders in say dating, mental healthcare and so on (what was the right term for it psychologically, cherry picking? I think so) I see some of them talk about how much they value men being vulnerable, yet I see how much it turns them off. I see how they talk about wanting genuine connections, but yet the men that want those serious conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:11 AM
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Sure, they’re overrated. But unfortunately it’s difficult to not hyperfocus on getting love when you’re so disadvantaged at it that you have to initiate things or else nothing happens. No miracle, nothing generally speaking for many men. Just boredom while waiting for people to validate your self worth and options in general, which unfortunately doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:04 AM
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If anything this just shows how disadvantaged men actually are in dating wtf. I mean, if he did have equal opportunities and options it wouldn’t be hard to dump because you could find another one in a matter of a month or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:00 AM

The annoying thing is that we are incredibly disadvantaged in dating. Unless you’re asexual and aromantic (which suddenly becomes a very realistic thing reading your comment), that’s one of the big reasons men can be less content single than women. It’s a natural basic human need biologically and psychologically but the degree to which you feel the need can differ significantly between individuals depending on their options and opportunities. Those with fewer opportunities and options will be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:51 AM
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When you are not liked because you don’t suit whatever perfect image they have of things you have zero control over, then it’s the definition of discrimination. You are being excepted structurally because of things you have no control over. You aren’t liked for you at all. This brings me to the question of whether some women’s love is real or fake. Whether it’s a tactic to use someone or whether it’s genuinely meant in the sense that she likes the person for him. The uniqueness of a person that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:41 AM
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The solution is simple: women lowering their unjustifiably high standards (because most of them are average themselves) The issue isn’t that men are below women’s leagues (for many men there are plenty of women within their leagues) It’s that those women have unrealistic discriminatory expectations which hinders many men in getting something as simple as a romantic connection
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:39 AM
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It is proof that it is fundamental. And with can not live without it I mean, you cannot live without it involuntarily without experiencing some sort of chronical stress and health issues that can decrease your life expectancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:37 AM
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Nope, it’s a biological need confirmed by neurobiological evidence. The whole purpose of two genders is to complement each other. If it wasn’t for the individuals of those genders being with each other, there wouldn’t be a need for women. The same brain regions involved in making someone thirsty and hungry and getting them to fulfill those needs to food and water are active when someone desires romantic love. This is a natural desire. It’s not just a want. That’s why i always laugh at people tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:40 AM
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My problem is that women don’t like me for me. I’m the victim of discrimination within the dating field most likely just like many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:37 AM
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THANK YOU 🙏🏼 I always knew something was off. Why? What kind of person who’s truly happy would feel the need to convince other people of how OOO greAt single life is? It seems like bitterness and misandry more than anything else to me. If I didn’t struggle with dating i wouldn’t feel anything about it. I’d be glad that they are out of the “dating pool”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:35 AM
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Classic example of the difference in what men perceive and what women perceive, probably due to the fact that men have less dating options and opportunities, which makes staying single worser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:34 AM
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Two genders exist for a reason so your argument is refutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:32 AM
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Your gut is right. I’m sure you feel the biological “need” to romantic love as much as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:32 AM
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Define “not desirable” “I don’t think it’s the same” How would a man want to be with a woman he doesn’t desire? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:30 AM
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How the fuck does that replace one of a human being’s deepest biological and spiritual needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:29 AM
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The biggest disadvantage is that many men don’t really have dating options (noticeable signs of romantic interest from the women around them) and opportunities (where they could meet a partner) That makes getting a relationship much more challenging. The frustrating part is that when a man doesn’t approach or take initiatives, nothing happens. Literally nothing generally speaking. Meanwhile many (young) women can be passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:29 AM
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You’re making a mistake here, I believe. The reason men are less content single generally speaking, can largely be attributed to the fact that men are more disadvantaged in dating and not to how strong their social networks are. Because this is a fundamental need biologically speaking, it’ll make the brain go in some survival mode. You only need a few strong social connections to feel content. And many men can get those from their family too in principle, though friends would be nice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:24 AM
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Bro, it’s literally a biological fact that romance and community are seperated human needs. They serve completely different evolutionary and spiritual purposes and generally speaking romance has much more value than friendships. The argument about social contacts being able to replace the need for romantic love is false. Sure, being single might be less harmful because at least you have other people to fall back on, but it’s still going to be a need. I know people that have the greatest network,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:22 AM

It’s literally scientifically confirmed that people by default crave positive attention (attraction) because it confirms their “value”. Whether you’re attracted to those people or not. So he’s right. I’d personally feel attacked if a woman below my league found me unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:02 PM

Yeah but their friends and other women find them attractive, so I don’t get why those bitter women have to declare openly that those men are unattractive to THEM. I mean, they can keep that shit inside if they had any form of developed moral compass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:00 PM

Most men aren’t attracted to most women either. Attractiveness is subjective biologically speaking. The question here is why women are declaring to the outside world that the boyfriends of their friends or whatever female relative are unattractive (while they’re not; their girlfriends and other women obviously find them attractive, experienced this myself) There seems to be something hidden behind that. You didn’t answer the question. All you did was making false generalizations and statements t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:57 PM
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We don’t want to focus on it. The thing is that we are so disadvantaged at this field to the point it’s hard not to. Because if we don’t initiate, usually nothing happens. Many of us do not notice being approached or even subtle signs of romantic/sexual interests. This limits our options and opportunities significantly. It’s not that we want to focus on it, it’s that we are FORCED to. It’s hard for the brain to focus on other things when one fundamental need remains unfulfilled. I don’t remember…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:50 PM
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That argument isn’t strong. Most men didn’t get the chance to reproduce during history because of opression and the wars they were forced to fight, while women were protected. Nowadays the trend is that pretty much all men are coupling up as nature intends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:44 PM
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THIS. You worded it right brother. That’s the most frustrating part. If we don’t initiate shit (unfortunately with high risk of rejection for some reason) basically nothing happens. I’ve been going my own way for a long time. Not one time have I been approached (vague signals aside) I wish i could follow up on their advice. But when you are so disadvantaged in dating, it’s hard to focus on other things, because the brain sees that as a threat. Why? Romantic relationships are considered basic hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:40 PM
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I would love it if women approach us either instead of paradoxally feeding the harmful traditional gender norm that men are the pursuers, which results in nothing happening for so many men when they do not take initiatives themselves. Thought feminism wanted to make things more equal and to get rid of traditional roles or norms. But this is the definition of cherry picking. While most women preach for equality, many men do not notice equality in the field of dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:38 PM
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Brother, what’s the relevance of genes? Everyone that lives and survives has good genes by definition. So it’s not like those men have bad genetics. And I think pretty much every biologist can agree that if looks and height matter, it’s one of the dumbest things hardwired in human beings as they do not reflect genetic quality and health greatly. The most important things (your heart, immune system, intelligence, personality etc) aren’t visible. With modern technologies human beings have pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:30 PM

Only bitter women say this. It’s young men that struggle with dating. They certainly are NOT in their prime if they struggle. According to science men’s attractiveness remains stable with age and can even increase. Why? Men remain biologically useful for their whole life’s. They can pass on their genes their whole life’s. So it is logical that nature gives men the ability to couple up and pass on their genes for their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:46 PM
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Huh? Most men are handsome (they have decent bodies), yet they do struggle with dating, I’m good looking and intelligent (last trait matters more in a man’s attractiveness as looks don’t really matter; men remain fertile their whole life’s and weren’t evolutionary meant to be good looking and also unlike women don’t decrease in attractiveness with age) but struggle (not that it should matter in the first place as I want f*cking LOVE and that isn’t supposed to he superficial. Everyone deserves lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:41 AM
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Men’s attractiveness aren’t looks based. If they were, men could use make-up (and yes it can really make you significantly better looking) with the same results as women. But we know it doesn’t matter and therefore aren’t invested into it. I’m also good looking (not that it should fucking matter) but still don’t notice any advantage. Many women don’t look better than me (the only difference is that they have longer hair and another body that makes them more aesthetically pleasing to look at prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:34 AM
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That’s because men have less opportunities (places) aside of school and work to meet a partner, have to face geographical limitations which decreases the chance of meeting women that are attracted to them and because they tend to have less time to date due to full time jobs. That exactly is unfair and needs to be adressed. No man should struggle more with dating than women. That the definition of inequality and unfairness and can be incredibly harmful if it’s involuntarily. At the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:08 AM
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Sure 💀 You’re only 50 years old when it suits your narrative huh? I know no man at that age that believes those childish things that you do. And I know no man at that age I know struggles with dating. They all told me dating becomes SIGNIFICANTLY easier after the age of 30 and statistics and science agree. Most men marry after that age. And if those men divorce, they’re statistically MUCH MORE likely to remarry within a short timeframe than a woman. With as many women as men in the world and wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:29 AM
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It is gonna happen because looks scientifically are irrelevant in a man’s overall attractiveness. As a man who is good looking and intelligent but struggles with dating, I know this damn wel. No man is inherently unattractive. All men can attract multiple women in their life’s. That’s biologically and statistically obvious. There are BILLIONS of women. There is no quantity issue, there’s countless of young adult women to choose from. Also, most women are in the leagues of most men, because most …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:05 AM
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Bro if what y’all we’re saying was true, NO single man would struggle with getting sex. I mean, the whole reason the average young woman has her options is because men have higher libido’s. If women had the same libido, many of their interactions with you would probably be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:57 AM
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If it wasn’t an issue than men would sexually attract women to the same degree as young women do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:54 AM
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Then why don’t many men notice this? No man is sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:53 AM
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Everything they’re saying is false lol. I know no man over 40 that struggles with dating. In fact, all of them told me that they truly struggled at young age, just like the majority of young men do (if they were in their primes at young age, no young man would struggle with getting something as simple as a relationship; there’s as many women as men, they aren’t supposed to struggle biologically) but got it significantly easier with age. I’m also noticing a slight shift with age and attract more …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:45 AM
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That’s believable, but men over the age of forty having fewer options don’t make any sense. Statistics don’t support that at all. Old men have the easiest time dating. All old men I know told and showed me, that if they wanted a relationshipthey easily could. Men do not decrease in attractiveness with age according to studies. But women do, because they lose their fertility. Men are biologically useful their whole life’s. It’s really funny how all incels are younger men and that the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:40 AM
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Single men over 40 aren’t skrewed. I know many men over that age and they have a way easier time dating than young men do. Remember, it’s young men that struggle not the older ones. It’s most young men that are single statistically, not older men. They have dating options. Men get dating options with age. All the old men I know have said and proven that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:37 AM
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Men feel more of a drive to seek sex, not a mate. Sex drive is about exactly that: sex. In order for romance and lasting relationships to happen, infatuation needs to be present and most of the time it isn’t. Men don’t have a higher drive in that than women do. Most men aren’t romantically attracted to most women. And sexual attraction isn’t even real attraction. It’s sexual lust over body parts. But attraction is about three pillars: sexual attraction, romantic attraction and attachment. Only t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:31 AM
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Evolution has no goal, so that’s false. And by your logic, “not so good” women wouldn’t reproduce either, because men select their partners too ultimately. All of a species absolutely is supposed to at least couple up. The reason not all will reproduce has everything to do with life expectancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:27 AM
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I mean that no man is inherently undesirable in the sense that no man is unattractive. Most men are average and therefore most women are in the leagues of most men. Anyone will ALWAYS have multiple people that’ll be attracted to them. There’s no such thing as being attractive to no one, as it is subjective. I meet many women that do not show interest (which I believe is unfair as it limits my opportunities and options in dating), but i meet way better women that are attracted to me now and then.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:00 AM
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It is equal in the infatuation sense, because men do not get infatuated to any women they meet. Just a select few. The only difference in attraction is that men are more sexually driven and therefore can lust over more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:06 PM
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Lol no. Attraction is absolutely subjective. No one’s objectively attractive. And what you call conventional attractive differs significantly per culture (aside of facial symmetry) The differences in beauty standards already strongly suggest it’s not objective. And no, there are 4 billion women. It is not statistically impossible to meet multiple women that are attracted to you wherever you are. There are literally BILLIONS of them and no man is unattractive or undesirable. I f*cking hate that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:56 PM
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That would mean that their attraction is objective, but that’s not how human attraction works. It’s subjective by definition. No one is inherently unattractive (you can be unattractive to some, but very atttactive to others; i and I’m sure many people have faced this regularly) and no is objectively attractive (no matter how many people are attracted to you, there’ll always be people that aren’t). This ensures that everyone can reproduce and contribute to genetic variation. At the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:44 PM
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Nope. If you talking biology you’ll know that women that are close to or hit menopause are practically biologically useless, so there’s no point for men to be with them. Men generally are most attracted to beautiful women in their 20s. Also, if there are men that struggle with dating, there’ll always be women that do too in a world with roughly as many women as men. What you’re talking about isn’t what i and men I know experience. We only get attracted to a few women and don’t care about the res…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:30 PM
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Lie. Men generally aren’t attracted to old women. What do you mean any woman? If you’re talking biology, you’d know that women that hit menopause or are close to it aren’t really biologically useful anymore, so there is no evolutionary advantage in men being with those women. Aside of that, there’ll always be women that men won’t chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:27 PM
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WHO says he wants you too? Men generally would prefer an above average woman over any other woman. It’s just when a man doesn’t really have a choice that he’s “forced” to settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:05 PM
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We are upset if they just want sex and don’t go deeper with us in the form of romance. Especially when seeing all those women complaining about men only wanting them casually and saying that they don’t care about sex. So to me, it’s kind of hypocritical when I see them value casual relationships more than intimate, lasting relationships. Like on dating apps, i’ve heard. It just makes me so mad and I have trust issues because of that. I’m more skeptical on what I see (many) women say now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:04 PM
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Bro study to study shows that looks barely matter in a man’s overall attractiveness. They do matter in women’s attractiveness, but they don’t in men, because men remain fertile their whole life’s and looks are in no way accurate indicators of gene quality, just fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:02 PM
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It’s not just about that. It about wanting love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:59 PM
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What? Those men are literally thirsting over your body parts. They don’t like you for you most likely if it’s sexual. I’m a man so I know. If women get so much attention due to men’s unfortunate high libidos (which disadvantages men at the end of the day) then it’s inevitable for me to believe that those men give attention to multiple women. This makes the attention less personal and more towards body parts or behavior they lust over. I don’t understand how women like you just cannot understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:50 PM
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Yeah, that’s true. More precisely, no man is unattractive. I know many men that aren’t any worser than the average woman. No matter how much people aren’t attracted to you, there’s always be people that are (attractiveness and attraction are subjective) Just like, no matter how much people you tend to attract, there’s always be people that aren’t attracted to you. The difficult thing however is that it takes the right time and place to meet those people and feel a spark. That’s an issue for many…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:55 PM
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It’s not just about sex, it’s about romance and therefore relationships. We want relationships with women we actually desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:35 PM
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To be fair, it is a natural and religious right. It just isn’t acknowledged by the government yet (patriarchy, y’all say we living in huh? 😂) We don’t have to fight for shi bruh. We only should have to If women have to either. But no they don’t have to when they are young generally speaking, so it is logical for us to want to just sit and get a relationship without too much effort. It should be simple. There are BILLIONS of women in this world. I really get so mad everytime I think about this fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:26 PM
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Not trying to justify anything he said as it is incredibly horrible, harmful and inhumane. But i’d assume because many women don’t seem to want men for them, but for what they have. If they weren’t shallow, men wouldn’t struggle with dating and they’d be actually able to form lasting romantic relationships, rather than sexual, casual one’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:25 PM
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That doesn’t make sense. There are roughly as many men as women. If that was true, than all men approached multiple women of different age groups. But that just isn’t the case. There’s no point in men being with old women, unless they were married when they were young and have children to raise. Men of all age groups literally prefer beautiful women in their 20s. Attraction is important and older women just arent attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:17 PM
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Uh, isn’t that supposed to be like the point? Attractiveness and attraction are subjective. Just because you’re not attracted to them, doesn’t mean they are unattractive. They are attractive to other women. There are women that don’t find me attractive at all (even though I’m good looking (not that it should matter) and intelligent), but there have also been women that found me very attractive. You don’t find those men attractive? So what? There are other women that do. You’re most likely not ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:15 PM
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I don’t believe that shit. Scientifically speaking men prefer women that are younger than them. And statistically speaking men are the oldest in most couples. Look it up. Why am i getting the idea that you’re a woman? 😭 Because obviously you don’t seem to know how men’s attraction works. The whole reason young women have all their options is because men are more sexually driven. And young beautiful women peak in sexual attractiveness. When this decreases, there is no stimulus to pursue her anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:10 PM
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They don’t. Science concludes rhey get less attractive with age significantly. There’s no point in a man dating an unattractive women. It doesn’t make sense biologically to date women that aren’t really fertile anymore either. I don’t know any old man that is attractive to me nor any other man, nor I know any woman past 40 that has an easy time dating. Studies show that men of all age groups prefer women in their 20s over any other woman. So your notion is false. Men get more options when older …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:04 PM
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Bruh absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:01 PM
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I don’t agree with anything you said. I just know this is an easy thing to say as a woman. But no, I am absolutely entitled to romantic love, just like anyone else. Two genders exist for a go damn reason. Everyone absolutely deserves both a a family and a partner if they want. Life’s too short to cater to unfairness and inequality in one of the fundamental aspects of life. The fact that people - mainly women - are saying this just makes me so angry. Young men already struggle with dating, so thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:10 PM
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At this point you’re just talking nonsense, because you most likely have some narrative (that advantages you) that you’d like to push. It is unfair because those are basic human desires that we are talking about that are hardwired into biology. Everyone deserves a partner of the opposite gender that literally exists for their gender. No one should be uncoupled against their willing. Everyone deserves a desirable romantic partner to live life with and everyone deserves a family of their own if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:06 PM
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It’s unfair that women have more dating options and opportunities than men do. “Something can be harder for someone and not another person, and ThAtS nOt NecEsSarilY unFaiR” Says who? That’s literally the definition of unfairness. If someone has an easier time because of whatever than another person, that is unfair for the person that struggles with it. It’s especially unfair because it seems that the average woman has an easier time dating than the average man. That is pure inequality and that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:43 PM
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WHO are you to talk about what men want as a woman? Sure, this is the reason women have their dating options. But I’m talking about romantic relationships here. Though men do not get easily infatuated, romantic relationships are absolutely a natural desire in individuals of both genders. And those needs can’t be fulfilled outside of a romantic relationship, because that need is completely separated from other needs. I can truly speak about that, because my libido is very low. That means that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:30 PM
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Broo, why the hell does dating have to be so complicated for men 😭 There literally are as many women as there are men smfh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:49 AM
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Nope. I don’t see how they have an advantage when men aren’t attracted to them. Men have been hardwired to be attracted to young, fertile women, not to women that have reached or are close to their biological clock (menopause) That’s just facts. Studies show that women’s attractiveness decreases with age, while men’s remains stable. It definitely seems to be fertility related. This shows that attraction and attractiveness is about fertility and not so much about superior genes, because everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:21 AM
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People that tell others they deserve to be alone deserve to be alone themselves. But unfortunately the women that say that are most likely too advantaged socially for that to happen. They request empathy, but yet don’t reciprocate it to men generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:36 AM
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Trying to justify having higher standards that you as a probably average woman do not deserve, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:09 AM
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Yep, men are only desperate when they lack options. I know a man that’s on the same level of looks as I am that attracts women regularly, and he never felt desperate at all. He never thought of women as anything special. Meanwhile, I started to feel desperate after noticing that i apparently lack options and therefore cannot easily get into a relationship whenever I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:44 AM
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Lmao I don’t see women drooling over me, even though I do see myself as a sexy guy .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:37 AM
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That’s literally what my post is about. Women have more options because of men’s sexual drives. And this leads to men struggling. Women aren’t lining up for sex with the average guy? Can’t they be realistic for once? Most of them are average, so those women are in the leagues of those men. And scientific studies show that average people are the most attractive actually. They’re average for a reason. It’s what nature has selected to be normal. Also, I’m above average looks wise and intelligence w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:36 AM
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Bro what? Science disagrees with you. Men can be as selective as women are and that’s evolutionary advantageous. That’s science. Its also science that attraction and attractiveness are subjective. So every man is attractive to multiple potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:35 AM
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Huh, but biologically speaking no man is sexually nor romantically unattractive. In a world with as many women this brings up so many questions. Why don’t men notice women being sexually aroused or attracted to them on a regular basis? Most men are average so most women are within their leagues. And average is most attractive scientifically speaking. I believe women are so advantaged by sexually driven men that they can afford themselves to have higher unrealistic and unjustifiable standards tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:29 AM
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That’s false. Scientifically speaking men are supposed to get more and more options with age as men do in no way peak in their youth. Hence, so many young men that are single against their willing and can’t easily get out of it because of how disadvantaged they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:23 AM
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There are tons of average men that have partners because most women are average too. But that doesn’t take away the fact that many men struggle to get there. And that’s what he’s talking about. That’s skrewed and makes dating incredibly unfair and inequal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:22 AM
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Bro, there’s a huge difference between sexual attraction and infatuation though. They’re separated. Infatuation is what we call real attraction and what brings people together, not sexual attraction. That’s what people brings together casually. Not to mention that no man sexually or romantically unattractive. So it doesn’t make sense that men do not attract desirable women regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:15 AM
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But no man is undesirable, so it really f*cking bothers me that men do not have as many dating options as women in a world with as many women as men. In a world with as many below average men as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:13 AM
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Women only have this advantage at young age. Scientific studies found that their attractiveness decreases significantly which age and this makes biologically sense; they become less fertile and it does not have any evolutionary advantage for a man to be with an infertile woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:32 AM
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Not at all. Men are only more desperate because of the unfair imbalance in dating. Women don’t have a high status for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:30 AM
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Speak for yourself. The only reason I and so many men I know are more desperate is because we lack dating options at this point of our life’s. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t be desperate and could be as content single. Other things could be prioritized at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:53 AM
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I literally gave logical reasons that explains why men tend to crave it more. As a man i know what I’m talking about. I wouldn’t be craving relationships as much if I got approached by women regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:41 AM
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It absolutely did. You cant speak for any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:54 PM
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I’ve met women that have put zero effort in really, but still found me attractive and interesting. Usually in public. So I don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:50 PM
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No it doesn’t equal not interested necessarily. Especially with women that don’t even seem to approach men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:44 PM
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Because dating is unfair for men. It’s harder to let go of it when you’re so disadvantaged. Though if she is explicitly not interested (instead of just a lack of effort) then that should be respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:30 PM

Women aren’t interested in them in that way? Why such a broad generalization in a world with many women and with all men possessing attractiveness as it’s subjective. I’ve attracted some women, but not others. Why? Because attractiveness is subjective. I could bet that you aren’t attracted to any woman you meet either. Just a few women when it comes to who you fall in love or infatuated with (not talking about sexual attraction that seems to be triggered by something as simple as a body part)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:43 AM
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The person you’re responding to is a woman but she did communicate herself very well. Stop being misogynistic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:08 PM
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Unmarried at 40? He’ll marry after 40 don’t worry. There are plenty of women and most men marry after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:33 AM
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Yeah but that doesn’t change the fact that old men have an easy time dating. And this doesn’t make sense when the majority of young men are still uncoupled. How are those statistics logical at that point? There’s something going on. Would love to see it’s methodology. Why’d any man want to date a woman that hit or is close to menopause? (The biological clock) There’s absolutely no single evolutionary advantage to a reproductively valuable male being with a biologically useless women. And nature …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:03 PM
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I don’t listen to what women have to say about this, because they (Some of them, you included) are bitter and don’t like it because it challenges their advantages. Pretty much all old men are married (statistics show that all willing men eventually marry and most do at roughly 30 or after 30) And no, old men don’t struggle. I know plenty and none of them struggle with getting dates. Statistically old men are much more likely to remarry after a divorce than old women. The men that do struggle are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:58 PM
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Yet old men have no issue getting young women still.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:51 PM
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That doesn’t matter. They still have more dating options and opportunities than men and that’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:50 PM
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Men aren’t inherently more desperate. It’s logical that men will become more desperate after a time when they see how limited their dating options and especially opportunities are. Young women generally don’t seem to notice this limitation if they are good looking (with make-up on) It’s logical that you’ll be less desperate at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:18 AM
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But the issue is that no man is inherently unattractive. The average woman isn’t more attractive than the average man romantic wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:03 PM
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We (the serious men) feel entitled to romantic relationships. If we are born with the fundamental desire to romance hardwired into us against our willing and two genders literally existing for each other, it’s logical to feel a sense of entitlement to that. Sex is another story though. And I don’t agree with you as someone who’s really into biology. There are roughly as many women as there are men (both in the billions) Nature strives for balance in most cases. This mean’s that in principle, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:30 PM
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Sorry, i just dont’t agree with that. Dating doesn’t seem difficult for women to me when the most mediocre women and women that are worser looking than me, are less intelligent than me, have achieved less than me and so on (hate to say that) get more matches than I do as long as they’re young. Having options is still better than having no noticeable option, regardless of quality issues. Men that face both quantity and quality (because let’s be honest, even if you as a man have a few options, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:50 PM
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You can look it up man. And (objective) evidence doesn’t mean that much when we’re talking about something so subjective. There’s so many individual differences in this. At that point, reasoning logically is more effective and efficiënt to come to the truth. You have to take both objectivity and subjectivity into account to come to a conclusion that actually represents reality well and that’s hard. But objectively both women and men have the fundamental desire to romantic love and sex. That’s a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:25 PM
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I know the study you’re talking about. The most major one has been debunked by experts for misinterpreting a fundamental variable. As of the rest, you shouldn’t take men’s higher libido as desiring relationships more than women do. There’s a difference between desiring sexual and desiring romantic relationships. Many of those men can be fulfilled with hookups and casual sex already (no wonder men are overrepresented in cheating statistics) so that already refutes your notion if you meant romance…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:20 PM
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He probably means that women significantly influence each other. What starts with a decision of one woman can become more widespread than you’d think. Especially with the large social networks they’re able to create, thanks to the way society makes it easy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:15 PM
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You’ve probably read absolutely nothing further than me refuting that science with counterfacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:11 PM
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It does absolutely matter, because I have the right to be critical about those statements and studies. Also, it’s not really reliable science when one fundamental variable has been misinterpreted. That’s exactly what happened with that study that claims that single women are the happiest demographic (which doesn’t even make sense) It literally makes the whole conclusion invalid. Aside of that, the study isn’t representative of all women at all. It’s conducted in the USA, so it can’t represent th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:04 PM
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I don’t believe those women to be fair. I don’t want to accuse anyone of anything, but I mostly see it in the way they talk about this topic. It really looks like they’re gaslighting to me personally. It seems like they’re trying to get men to do something, even when it’s not something they don’t want to do. I’d also kindly request you to reread what i’ve said: women can afford themselves to be more content single than men, because they simply have more dating options. So they don’t really have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:54 PM
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Even though I genuinely appreciate your perspective and input: 1) How isn’t it supposed to be easy when it’s about fulfilling two of the most fundamental human desires: to sex and romantic love though? Those desires are pretty much present in all heterosexual and romantic people and they form the majority of the world. There are roughly as many women as men in the world - both in the billions - so i’d at least expect everyone to have a decent amount of dating options they can have a pick out. 2)…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:30 PM
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Men have their standards so low that even women that are below their leagues have more dating options and opportunities than they do. So i’d suggest them to see their self worth and raise their standards collectively. They shouldn’t let their libido’s control their behavior. That’s what gives women “power” in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:43 AM
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Definitely 🙏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:14 PM
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I don’t believe in that though because my love is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:17 PM
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If what you’re saying is true, what’s the point of their love? If it’s fake anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:04 PM
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But it’s really not in the way you’d think. I’m absolutely not one of those men that’s solely interested in sex. Like, you can take my word on that maam. I was talking about “attractive” in the romantic sense. It’s about liking the woman for who she is. I’m barely superficial. For me personally real attraction happens towards what makes that particular woman unique. It’s hard to explain, but it is a combination of all sorts of things. And one important factor is feeling a connection with her. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:59 AM
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That’s genuinely concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:31 PM
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Upvoted. You’ve offered me some great insights and i really appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:15 AM
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Thank you for this insightful answer ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:02 AM
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But does it affect women that much though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:39 AM
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I am good looking. I do have eyes, a mirror and a camera. Yet, where are my options? And there are definitely “uglier” women than me out there. And since when do looks matter in men? Like I told someone else, it doesn’t have any evolutionary advantage. Men remain fertile their whole life’s and looks don’t reflect genetic quality. If they did matter, men would be putting as much effort into it as women do, but we don’t because we actually know it doesn’t bring us anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:00 AM
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So it’s about benefits for you? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:51 PM
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No man is undesirable though. I am undesirable to some women. That doesn’t mean that other women don’t desire me though. And in the hypothetical scenario that they did exist, undesirable women would exist too. Y’all aren’t holy. Biologically speaking your value only comes from being the ones that carry a child made out of your own and a man’s DNA. In the hypothetical context that really only the “best genes” would matter, women with bad gene quality would be as useless as those men. And consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:10 PM
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Communication and social skills can be influenced. But the fundaments of the lack of those skills can’t be taken away. Neurodivergent people exist. Income and educational level significantly depend on a quality you cannot change; your intelligence. I can’t follow a level of education that is higher than my IQ can afford. This applies to everyone and directly affects your career prospects and therefore income. I’ll probably never be an AI scientist. Height and looks can be quite controlled, but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:57 PM
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But they’re not a part of you that matters, because you can’t control those qualities in an acceptable way. Also, if what you were saying was true, than why do women that are “uglier” (hate to say that) than me have more dating options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:44 PM
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They should be loved for their inner self. For their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:33 PM
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Everything is wrong with love being conditional. If it’s conditional in the superficial sense, you’re basically being used. You’re not loved and valued for you, but for what you have. Things that you don’t have any control over anyway. The difference is that men aren’t that shallow though. If men were as shallow as (many) women are, the average young woman wouldn’t have more dating options than we do, no matter how mediocre she is. No matter how much make-up she has to use to “catch on”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:28 PM
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Love should NOT be conditional in the superifcial sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:00 PM

Bullshit. You deserve a partner bro. I’m really curious how you’re still single at 40. That’s exceptional. But don’t worry, there are more men that do marry after that age. So unless it’s voluntarily, you shouldn’t worry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:16 PM

It is possible to change though, because no man is intrinsically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:58 PM
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That’s not what i’ve imagined my life to be. I want a partner, not a maid. Why’d I let a woman that I genuinely love do everything for me? I wouldn’t want that. That’s hurt to see. In fact, i’d want to make her life as easy as possible and shower her with love if it’s reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:07 PM
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We just have to create more opportunities man. Nowadays there are barely any places where you have the opportunity to meet a partner or friends (for example) as an adult aside of college, school and perhaps work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:59 PM
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Doesn’t mean that you should be silent about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:49 PM
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I want a PARTNER. Someone that complements me. Someone that I can love. Someone that I can make great memories and start a family of my own with. I don’t care about the status that other people might assign. I am happy with my partner, because i’d love her. Not because of what society thinks of me. Male loneliness is a huge problem. And it MUST be adressed. I see so many things in which men are structurally disadvantaged in society. That’s why you hear about lonely men more often than about lone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:46 PM
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They are biological needs actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:41 PM
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He isn’t empathetic because women aren’t empathetic to this fundamental issue men face. It literally does affect fundamental human needs and desires. So it is serious. Thankfully pretty much all men end up married. But getting there is still more difficult for men than for women. That’s PLAIN unfairness that absolutely needs to be adressed. But feminists dont’t really seem to care about genuine equality from what i’ve observed. They only care about equality that advantages them from my perceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:00 PM
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I and so many men I know do. We all want shit to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:55 PM
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It is actually not fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:54 PM
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