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Once again. Humans aren’t biological robots. Also, survival of a child is high regardless of whom you couple with in welfaring countries. We have good healthcare. And biologically as long as a man makes it to adulthood, it is very plausible that he has good genes by definition. His body (heart, immune system, lungs etc) function normally. Also, you’re looking at it from a very unfair female centered perspective. WHO says that a woman can’t have genes that decrease the chances of survival of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:33 PM
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I see so many fallacies, that i won’t even bother arguing with all of your points. “It’s evolutionary horrifying” Says who? It’s evolutionary horrifying if there is a monopoly in a situation where the gender ratio is roughly 1:1. Evolution can optimally happen when genetic variation is maximized. Without two much evironmental pressure the existing genes within populations seem to be very constant. It’s also not evolutionary horrifying because women don’t have better genes then men generally spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:37 AM
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No I didn’t say that. I said that the discrimination that structurally deprives young men (since it’s mainly young men that struggle with finding a partner) of the options to start a family and to get the romance they deserve for being a human being should be against the rules. There is a difference in that. This kind of discrimination isn’t fully subconsciously, I suppose, because human beings have the capacity to participate in metacognition. I believe that any man that is deeply affected by h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:28 AM
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No I didn’t say that. I said that the discrimination that structurally deprives young men (since it’s mainly young men that struggle with finding a partner) of the options to start a family and to get the romance they deserve for being a human being should be against the rules. There is a difference in that. This kind of discrimination isn’t fully subconsciously, I suppose, because human beings have the capacity to participate in metacognition. I believe that any man that is deeply affected by h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:07 AM
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But I didn’t say they should be forced in any way to do something. I just said that men deserve justice for that shit. And it is indeed not fair. In fact, it’s extremely unfair. I can’t even out a number on that. Having your avenues to a meaningful part of life and happiness be blocked over things you can’t control and having to live with chronical stress, that in some cases can take years from your life away, is not it. That’s real damage based on unfairness that human beings can take full resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:56 PM
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Lol what. You are putting words into my mouth again. I’m not saying women should be forced to have sex with certain men. I’m saying that men deserve justice for being discriminated against. No man deserves chronical stress (real damage) over things that can’t be controlled. And yes the ratio you brought up is true. But its so negligible, that I call it 1:1. In principle, the chances of getting a female or a male are completely equal 50/50. it’s just that female fetuses tend to be more vulnerable…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:58 PM
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I thought women didn’t care as much about sex. Sexual attraction isn’t relevant in romance. A man doesn’t exist to fulfill your sexual needs. They’re people who deserve to be loved and to have a family of their own. Why would I make myself gay when two genders exist and when those genders are complementary? Two individuals of the same gender aren’t complementary. Sexual orientation is completely different from the preferences you are talking about. So once again, bad logic. I don’t believe prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:02 PM
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You’re proving the point of my post. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:00 PM
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That’s a strawman. Where did i say that? You’re now putting words into my mouth. Wanting people to get justice for the discrimination they face doesn’t equal wanting others to be legally required to go through that terrible experience. And no, it isn’t natural. I’ve dived into this so I know what I am talking about. Nature produces 1:1 ratio and it’s very functional. It’s literally evolutionary a very bad road if there’s an unfair monopoly that keeps some individuals from reproducing even though…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:59 PM
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Did you even read what I wrote? I’m saying it’s fine that not all women are attracted to me, even though I feel very attractive lol. But it becomes extremely unfair, when you get zero positive attention. Because that literally limits your dating options even though most women aren’t above you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:54 PM
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Not that. Most men I know have no issue with being rejected if it’s just a few. They have a problem when it becomes structural and when they don’t get the positive feedback they deserve proving those women wrong as often. It’s very annoying and limiting when you’re being structurally deprived of romantic options even though countless of women are objectively within your league. (I hate to talk about leagues)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:37 PM
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How the hell do you compare those preferences? And human’s can think rationally, so your point doesn’t make sense. We aren’t irrational robots. Preferences like this can actually change, as a human’s brain is very flexible and the PFC has a lot of power. If what you’re saying is true, then it implicates it was never really about the person they’re with. It’s all consumption. And their love seems to be just a mask to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:34 PM
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There’s nothing natural about men struggling with dating. It’s in evolution’s interest (if it exists) for every man with an unique set of genes to reproduce because sexual reproduction is about genetic variation. But fuck that biology. I just want love with a woman i’m interested in. Discriminating standards based on uncontrollable things should be illegal imo as they harm people in a world where there’s no scarcity. This is incredibly unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:32 PM
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Dating isn’t supposed to be unfair with a 1:1 gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:26 PM
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But most people do. Marriage is the relationship goal of many people I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:20 PM
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There is no difference in value between people. I also don’t see how a woman is more valuable than me. What does she have that I don’t? What can she do that I can’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:05 PM
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But I want a lifelong relationship, so obviously I want a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:42 PM
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That’s so false lol. Even now EVERY man is being drafted once they are old enough. And I’m not there to be selected. I want to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:11 PM
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https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2018/05/war-clan-structure-explain-odd-biological-event Nice try. There are a lot of sources refuting this. It’s mathematically and biologically impossible that men aren’t attractive to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:09 PM
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Because I’m structurally being disadvantaged, while others have an easier time over what exactly? I’m just being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:07 PM
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Please show me studies that confirm the point you’re trying to make in your last paragraph. A Stanford study shows that most of those men who did’t reproduce in the past didn’t do so, because bloodlines were organized in clans and they used to wipe out entire bloodlines. The wars in the past that young men were forced to fight also plays a big role. And why do you compare humans to other primates when we’re cognitively above them at most aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:03 PM
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Wtf. That’s literal discrimination. I’m not asking for things to go one-sided. When I put in effort, I expect the same effort back. I believe in reciprocation. I’m not there to validate’s someone’s ego omg. I don’t use dating apps, but i hear from men with whom women match with, that it’s almost always one-sided. Women who MATCHED with them. Why match if you won’t even try to build a romantic relationship? I can see where the frustration comes from when using those apps. It’s either absolutely l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:58 PM
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Why would height matter
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:54 PM
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Height shouldn’t matter because it’s something, someone can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:48 PM
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That’s sexism 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:43 PM
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With billions of people on earth, how can people be unattractive? And how’s that biologically possible when attraction is subjective? Evolution is about genetic variation. Sexual reproduction van maximize genetic variation. So why would it not be in “nature’s interest” to have every individual reproduce, who has good enough genes to make it to adulthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:34 PM
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None of the advice they give seem to help. If it helped sure, i’d appreciate that. But I know it won’t help because of how fake people are:
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:25 PM
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They have no such right? Under a social contract and the values, i’d assume they have. No one deserves to be a victim of discrimination. It causes real damage. If freedom stops where it damages someone else, why is discrimination like this allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:23 PM
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It’s hypocritical when y’all value things that shouldn’t matter, like height. “Men are only out there for our bodies and don’t care about us as people”, is funny at that point, because it’s plain hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:20 PM
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Thank God, it’s not on you to dictate whether something is moral or not. Men have the right to have equal options and opportunities in dating, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:17 PM
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Real empathy from people who are being paid to listen to you? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:10 PM
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No it’s not immoral. People are actually suffering from this discrimination. They’re being deprived of their chances to love and a family and that’s a huge blow to their autonomy. People are the builders of their own happiness. But what if the building blocks aren’t there? It’s a well known fact that being single against your choice can lead to chronical stress. And chronical stress can take years of your life away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:09 PM
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There’s a difference between one-time sex and constant sex within a relationship 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:04 PM
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“And?” People like you are so hypocritical. Especially when y’all say that men are the bad one’s that are only out there to consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:02 PM
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Why would I use dating apps when men outnumber women out there and when i’ve heard a lot of time’s that it’s hell for many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:01 PM
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I’m not motivated when the odds seem to be stacked against me because of the gender, I was coincidentally born with. If i knew that my chances of succes were high, i’d be much more motivated. I’m very efficient with my energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:59 AM
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It is immoral the moment it’s differentation between individuals based on things they can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:54 AM
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Romance doesn’t mean sex. I’ve heard that women don’t really need sex too. So the relationship can be sexless in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:51 AM
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What the hell. And where did i talk about sex. I want romance and a family. That’s it. I don’t need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:46 AM
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Because I don’t live up to whatever superifcial specifics you may have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:44 AM
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It’s never fine to discriminate. In my moral framework it doesn’t make sense that discrimination is condemned within the public space because of society’s values of equality and equivalence, yet at the field where people are truly valuing others (in dating) it is widely accepted. That’s hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:36 AM
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I’m young, but that doesn’t mean I can’t think critically?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:32 AM
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It is discrimination by definition. Discrimination is basically differentiating between people based on things that shouldn’t matter in that context. I’m just being myself, so i don’t get why I’m not being loved the way I am. I’m a whole literal unique person. No one’s the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:28 AM
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Well, school was a comfortable place for me to potentially meet a partner, but guess what? I didn’t get the chances because of how unapproachable women were (they didn’t give signs implicating interest) and because they didn’t approach me. The most ideal situation to me would be meeting a partner at a train or something. You know, that great romantic story. I’d love for it to spontaneously and organically happen rather then me having to actively look. But I don’t get the chances to this way of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:24 AM
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Because I’m not an object? Because attraction can grow over time? Because I’m not unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:21 AM
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I’m not an object, yet I’m being treated like one? I have to live up to certain specifics that’d make them want to consume me? At that point it’s not about you as a person. It’s about what you have to offer them. That suggests that the love is fake asf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:20 AM
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Approach me, so that I can actually have choice? It’s that easy. Women aren’t scarce. I meet them a lot on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:18 AM
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Yes I am being treated like an object that way. I’m not a consumable that exists for someone’s pleasure. I’m a human being that deserves to be loved and to have a family of my own. That aside, there are literally millions of women within my league, so I don’t see why I struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:15 AM
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What studies do show that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:11 AM
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What the hell? That’s what YOU are making out of it. It’s a very normal answer. People treating each other like human beings would do very good. I’m not an object that has to live up to some specifics. This kind of discrimination that can harm real people should be criminal. Women setting the first step would give me more romantic chances. I mean, feminism is against traditional gender roles right? Men shouldn’t be expected to be hunters then. That’s a gender role that does harm some men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:05 AM
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That’s not good advice. And I don’t see how that is relevant for love, as it says nothing about someone’s essence and is something no one has chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:58 AM
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Even if just 5% of all women would be compatible with me. It’d still be in the millions. My philosophy is that life isn’t unfair. People are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:57 AM
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And why should I believe you? That aside, I already subtly gave the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:52 AM
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You know it damn well. You’re probably either trying to get a certain reaction to attack me on or this is rhetorical. If i was approached more often, I wouldn’t be struggling. As well if clear signs of interest were given. There are more than 4 billion women. This means that it doesn’t mathematically make sense that i struggle. Things are extremely unfair
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:48 AM
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Easy. There are billions of people. There is no lack of them, so it can be easily changed by people. This is probably a rhetorical question, because the answer should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:38 AM
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Yes I’m absolutely picky. Because I don’t like those places and I won’t go get a hobby for the sole purpose of finding a partner. I have to actually enjoy it and feel comfortable in that. And no clubs, social networks and things like that aren’t things I’m comfortable in. Your last paragraph doesn’t make sense. Wanting men to leave you alone, doesn’t explain why women don’t approach men. It’s just another side of men HAVING TO approach women, because they don’t get approached themselves. That me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:34 AM
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I’d like to meet my partner at uni, work, at the train or something like that. Not through a team sport i’d never join otherwise. Why can’t women just initiate? It’d make things so much easier and more fair, instead of shit being so one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:21 AM
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Even though what you’re saying is true. There are BILLIONS of women and millions of potential matches and probably a thousand i’d be actually interested in. I AM forced to live a life being single while I don’t want to. This is huge unfairness. They seem to be very fake. Also, I don’t understand what your comment has to do with my post. I’m talking about unfairness and this is unfair. I’m not looking for unasked comments from people who probably have agenda’s. I know that they aren’t there to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:05 AM
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I know countless of men on dating apps who are pure, but sick of the women on there that either ghost or don’t put in the effort no matter how much effort they put in. Also sick about the “looking for short term” or “fun” on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:02 AM
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That’s a stroman and you want to be taken seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:56 AM
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Advice isn’t good if it doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:46 AM
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I want equal chances. Like I said to someone else, some people not being interested in you, okay. I can live with that. But the moment it becomes structural, it becomes a big unfair disadvantage. It reduces your chances of actually meeting someone you can match with and who’s interested in you. I have the right to not be discriminated against at an important part of life. At least morally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:43 AM
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Idc to be honest, because that doesn’t make my desire for love and a family any less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:32 AM
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Of course I do. I’ve always had the expectation that people would value me the way i am. Why would the effort have to be so one-sided? That’s not unfairness. That, in my perception, means that I’m just feeding their ego’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:23 AM
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That’s exactly the inequality I’m talking about. You can’t date whoever you want when you are structurally being deprived of your romantic chances. Some people not wanting to date you, alright. But when it’s almost everyone you meet, it takes away at your chances, let alone finding someone I am actually interested in and compatible with. And the inequality is simple: some people having more options then others, for literally what? They’re all just people who are very unique. At this point it’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:11 AM
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Wtf is this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:03 AM
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No, I’m looking for real empathy and good advice that aren’t clichés, because I’m not planning to struggle any longer with something as basally as love. In fact, I’m not supposed to struggle. And what’s an “incel”. It’s funny how people are just confirming my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:00 AM
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No it isn’t. The way around discrimination is fairness and morals. For if I wasn’t clear enough. There is no shortage of women. There are so many women on this planet, that it’s impossible to comprehend. The scarcity some men feel (and therefore their own freedom in being able to start a relationship and family when they’re ready for one) is artificial and driven by unfair discrimination. It feels like oppression when you are structurally being denied your basic human desire to love and a family…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:42 PM
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No you wouldn’t have to. You’re not unattractive, so that’s not the issue for men. The issue is artifical scarcity, which to me already feels like some form of oppression, because your autonomy to start a family and find a compatible partner is being limited by artificial standards and the lack of avenues to find romance. The solution is simple: if average women lowered their standards so that average men have many options too, they’d be able to find a partner they want much easier. But the thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:19 PM
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It is, because human beings are voluntarily being excluded from living a human worthy life. Those people do discriminate others on the deepest level: their essence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:44 PM
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So personality is relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:51 PM
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This is a stroman and another fallacy. I won’t bother arguing with you anymore. Discrimination based on factors you can’t control is injustice. Things like personality can be controlled. But others aspects can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:39 PM
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That is false. Those studies are probably sociological studies. They aren’t psychology or neurobiologically based. They are pattern based. I care about biology only, because that’s the most fundamental discipline that shows the raw truth in this context. And the truth is, men’s and women’s brains aren’t that different. And they have the same desire for a partner. One chromosome difference won’t change that. The only thing that differs is that men have a higher libido generally speaking due to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:53 AM
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No that’s not true. They just have more opportunities when they’re young. There is no study that shows that men need women more than women need men. It’s pretty much as strong within women and men. “But for men I agree” while being a woman? Interesting. And it can’t mitigate it. It just distracts you from it. It doesn’t turn off the desire for a family and significant other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:12 AM
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Studies? Last time I checked it’s pretty documented that assortative dating is more of an advantageous thing (people dating within their own league) There’s also no good evidence that height or a sharp jawline correlates with genetic fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:59 AM
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Huh? Most women are literally average so what do you mean, so they aren’t settling when they do. Men just need as many options as women do. That’s fairness. There’s no shortage of any sex and Inequality based on discrimination is never right. Many of those men have great personalities, I’m sure many of those men have women that’s match them on a personality level. There is literally a monopoly in who gets opportunities to fulfill basic human needs, if we can believe statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:55 AM
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“You just think you are” Says the person who probably can’t distinguish between make-up or filters and nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:49 AM
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Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:45 AM
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If they weren’t the issue, men would have as many options as women do. Because first, there are roughly as many women as men. Scarcity isn’t an issue. Second, both groups approach a normal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:41 AM
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Finding implicates searching. I don’t look for it. What I’m frustated about is that I’m not being approached as often, while many women seem to get approached even though they are objectively within my same league. That is inequality. I don’t see it as a me issue. The issue isn’t me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:40 AM
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Yeah, but all those men that are struggling aren’t objectively unattractive. I’m not objectively unattractive either. If i compare myself to a lot of women, I see that many of them are within my league. And that’s facts. Most women are average, so most women are within the leagues of most men. There is injustice. You can change your competence. You can’t change factors however that are out of your controls. Biological useless factors. There are 4B+ women. It almost feels impossible that dating f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:37 AM
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You do. You don’t speak for other people. That’s unfair on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:35 AM
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Well, then it’s even weirder that many young men struggle. It’s not that they’re unattractive. That’s objectively not true. There’s still 50% of men that are above average. It’s that artificial standards make’s the individuals of the opposite sex believe that they deserve better than regular men, even though they are average themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:33 AM
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They are indeed not the same thing. Discrimination within dating is much more harmful because it hits a human being at the core. Real damage is being done by this systemic exclusion. This is scientifically proven. It’s still injustice. It’s still unfair inequality that hinders real human beings in getting a family and love when they’re ready for it. That directly limits their own autonomy at one important aspect of human happiness. This is in no way a luxury. This shows us that opportunities to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:17 AM
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It is, because it’s distunguishing. But the difference is, it disadvantages no one. Women are attracted to men either generally speaking, so they also discriminate based on sex when looking for love. Discrimination based on factors that shouldn’t matter in love disadvantages a lot of people. You see the difference. One is negative, the other is neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:10 AM
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You dont decide what others think lol. I’d never have my self-love so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:07 AM
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Brother, when it’s systemic it’s really unsustainable to not call it discrimination. Preferences and “tastes” are intrinsically supposed to be diverse. And it’s mathematically and biologically impossible to be unattractive to THAT much people. It is absolutely discrimination when there’s a distinguish being made based on factors one cannot control. We call shit like that discrimination everywhere. A company not choosing you based on who you are as a person for a job and therefore rejecting you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:02 AM
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I almost feel zero libido, but still only want a compatible female partner. Why? Because the romantic component of the desire is very active.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:00 AM
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I’m not talking about sex, I’m talking about romance. That’s a field where discrimination shouldn’t happen, because it’s about love and creating a family right? Men are being discriminated over things that biologically shouldn’t have value. I mean, what’s height. What’s the benefit of being tall? Don’t studies show that it can be negative? Where’s a study that shows a correlation between facial symmetry, tallness and genetic fitness? Find me those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:56 AM
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Says who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:54 AM
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But God created two sexes for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:51 AM
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No, no, no, I was talking to YOU. That’s a fallacy right here. Are you implicating that you do discriminate? Pretty weird considering two of feminism’s core values are: equivalence and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:40 AM
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People are unfair to others by discrininating them. And that’s exactly the case here. If you distinguish between people based on things they cannot control? That is unfairness and injustice to them if it happens on a larger scale. Because at that point it isn’t incidental. It’s a structural barrier in them fulfilling one of the deepest and oldest human needs. And the worst part is: they never asked for that barrier. Also, even if someone ends up in a relationship because of “desirable” traits, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:23 AM
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No, but i had multiple chances. Those weren’t enough though. I know my worth better than anyone else thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:18 AM
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I mean, why would I have to? I’m not my outside. I’m my inside. What value does the outside have? I’m not there to entertain someone visually. I’m there to love and to be loved. To start a future. To start a family. That’s where I’m there for. And from how I look, I know that I should have many women within my league. So i don’t understand why they don’t approach often.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:01 AM
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“Met the kind of person I want” People aren’t products. And that’s good on you. To me it feels like hell. It may be that you have more opportunities and options than I do, so you can afford yourself to be more content than I am being single. Just like people in welfare are more content without food and water at a given moment then people living in poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:57 PM
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What does it have to do with his comment though? He literally said that he won’t be having that most likely - probably because of unfair barriers more than his own choice - so why’d he want to hear this rather than actual advice that suits his own situation? Also the fact that he’s being settled for just because he’s seen as a stable choice while those people had partners before him (which to me is one of the most uncomfortable things to deal with) is disgusting frankly. Seems like being used mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:48 PM
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I get your frustration. I completely get it bro. I’m also not happy about the systemic inequalities in dating. I’m just trying to let y’all know that y’all aren’t unattractive inherently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:57 PM
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But your logic would assume that we as human beings are treated like objects more than as unique individuals. So I don’t see how that analogy doesn’t make sense in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:36 PM
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Looks don’t equate attractiveness. Lamborghini’s are absolutely beautiful. But that doesn’t mean I’m attracted to them. Also, looks are too insignificant in the way they matter in men’s attractiveness. There are more important things. Intelligence is genetically speaking much more valuable than a set of physical characteristics that you didn’t choose for that do in no way accurately indicate your genetic quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:27 PM
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Support your claim that monogamy is a human invention. I never ever felt a biological urge to couple with multiple partner. I always wanted a stable family and partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:25 PM
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Sexual selection is basically a variant of selection in which people choose genetic compatible people. That advantages a population more. If it’s about reproductive succes, it’d mean that most women with bad genetics wouldn’t date either, because that’d skew the potential of the offspring. Also I don’t see how average man has genetics that shouldn’t be there. Being average means that their genes are perfect and stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:23 PM
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No, i’d think that her gender is largely disadvantaged in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:17 PM
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Show me that attractiveness is objective. Because that’s not true. There is no conventional attractiveness in the sense of infatuation. That’s subjective and always has been. I’m confident to say that I’m conventionally good looking and intelligent, but I still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:15 PM
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You weren’t allowed in this debate by the sub rules in the first place, yet you still came here because this post probably bothered you for some reason. You don’t like men who see their value probably. So you are in no right to dictate what I’m allowed to do. This was a question to men, because I was asking why they feel hopeless and desperate instead of reclaiming their self value and seeing that their issues are an error in the social system and not biology based.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:04 PM
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Oh are they? Or are the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:59 PM
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But those women are not representative. There are literally millions of potential matches. Attractiveness and attraction are subjective. There is no conventional attractiveness. It’s literally a scientific truth that infatuation depends on genetic compatibility most of the time. And guess what? For every man there are thousands if not millions of compatible women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:54 PM
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Look. Most beautiful women are average women with make-up. So most men are going for women perfectly within their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:51 PM
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Evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:43 PM
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What do you mean? If it wasn’t good for the today world you wouldn’t make it to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:41 PM
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That’s cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:40 PM
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Casual relationships are in no way better. You deserve to be loved for who you are my brother. Not to be used for someone’s pleasure. Never lower yourself to the level of seeing people as product.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:38 PM
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Both men and women had to compete. But competition isn’t really logical when the gender ratio is 50:50. If that’s the ratio nature finds optimal, it suggests that it’s a way to assure genetic variation (everyone finding someone)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:32 PM
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A wealthy man doesn’t need a stay a home wife. He can just hire people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:30 PM
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Not at all! Mother nature wants everyone to pass on their genes. The whole reason sexual reproduction exists is to maximize genetic variation. Every man that can reproduce, should reproduce biologically from that standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:21 PM
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I checked statistics!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:13 PM
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It’s not a lie. Those men didn’t pass on their genes because of wars, sexual opression or other things they had no choice in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:10 PM
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Trust me, if you make 100k a year, you don’t need a woman. Most of the time you’re settling anyway. Save yourself from superificiality and go enjoy your money!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:07 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:06 PM
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That’s unfortunately true. At some point it may make men so desperate, that they’d just accept any woman. At that point they just want to feel how it’s like to be loved rather than starting a family with a woman they actually click with. That’s a big issue when options are limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:05 PM
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Like I said, for every “below average” man, there are many women within that same league. For every average man, there are even more women within his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:04 PM
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Depends on the time. There used to be times in which men were significantly opressed sexually, which means that the men in power got to reproduce most. Or times of war in which many men didn’t get the chance to pass on their genes to the future generation because they died early.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:02 PM
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While that may be true, that doesn’t mean you’re unattractive. If you find a match at the right time and place, trust me no amount of standards will change her falling in love with you. Infatuation really isn’t that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 02:58 PM
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This is not a lie. This is statistically and biologically a fact. There are matches for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 02:51 PM
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It is a need. Food and water are also needs. Without those things you will die, because you need those to live sure. But you won’t die from that, you die from the effects that not having food and water has on you. This pretty much applies to romance and connection too. Study to study shows how harmful being involuntarily single and loneliness are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:32 PM
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Bruh what? Romantic love and connection are literal basic human NEEDS. And yes, it’s as much as a need to men as to women. That’s biologically and psychologically true. There are literally studies done that show how extremely harmful social isolation (and being involuntarily single) are. This isn’t just basic “life isn’t fair” This is a huge disadvantage that touches at one of the deepest human needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:22 PM
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Money is much more valuable than any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:20 PM
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That’s what y’all love to say. But just because life’s unfair doesn’t mean you should accept that in your short life on this planet. If men are supposed to live with more difficulties in dating than they should have, why the hell have women been granted equality and shit? Life’s unfair right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:14 PM
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No I shouldn’t stay single when I don’t want to. Life’s too short for that to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:52 PM
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I am religiously and naturally entitled to love with someone suitable of the gender that has been created for my gender. The arguments that state otherwise are human constructs. Not how it’s supposed to be. Everyone’s supposed to be coupled biologically and in many religions the importance of it is emphasized.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:47 PM
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I won’t change my personality. I should be liked for who I am bruh. I’m not there to be used by women. If y’all can’t love us sincerely and instead use us for personal gain, why are y’all surprised about misogyny existing? Wtf lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:43 PM
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It is discrimination. And I believe it’s structural when it’s not just some individuals participating in excepting you (because of literally what?) but most members of that group you come across in daily life. I won’t be approaching anyone. I expect women to approach me and I’m sure it will happen. You cannot fool me at all. I don’t fall for the manipulation. Not that it should matter, but everything I look at the mirror, I see an attractive man. Most important of all, I’m intelligent and mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:34 PM
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I doubt that it’s a recent cultural concept. The only reason I want romance is because I want to love and be loved. This is one of the deepest natural feelings. It’s not rare. Most people marry for love. I don’t know a single couple that doesn’t love each other. What’d I use a woman for? There’s not much I can use them for (aside of it being morally wrong) Arranged marriages are great. If someone struggles with dating, then their family finding them someone that suits them in their own vast netw…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:21 PM
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It’s not wrong at all lmao. Just because it doesn’t fit with women’s narrative, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. I shouldn’t struggle with getting basic human needs met. I deserve to have a family of my own and an attractive partner (don’t want to settle, no matter how much I struggle), just like everyone does. There is no shortage of women and potential partners in this world. The fact that men struggle much more than women is the definition of inequality and that’s unjustitiable. Men that want a famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:09 PM
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No I think negatively of me and other men lacking the freedom of choice of when and with whom we’d like to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:43 PM
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Because it’s some. Most women I see pursue love. Why would it be most women? What makes them different from men? Both desire romance equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:23 AM
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“Men want to marry” It’s the opposite: women do (because many of them apparently state all the time that they don’t care about sex and want a “genuine” connection) Otherwise there wouldn’t be so many male cheaters. I mean, the whole reason women have so many options is because of men’s libido and not desire to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:41 PM
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So it’s about her own benefits, rather than loving me for who I am? No wonder so many men feel used or struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:12 PM
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There is no solution needed. Women and men don’t differ that much in their fundamental drive for a partner (libido aside) For every man there are countless of potential partners statistically and biologically. The whole reason men pursue a partner is because of their biology, i don’t see how that’d be different for women. And if that’s the issue, lowering their ungrounded standards that doesn’t reflect their value most of the time would be the easy solution. I don’t fall for the “i’d rather stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:00 PM
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Biology is universal. The whole reason men desire relationships and suffer when they are involuntarily single is because of biology. I don’t see how this’d be different for women. They just like men suffer when they are socially isolated. In fact, scientific evidence shows that it tends to be even more harmful for them than for men. This is because those are needs hardcoded into our brains. Both romance and community are very important and serve different evolutionary purposes. Romance is probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:49 PM
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Why would she? Lmao, this just shows that women like you are completely aware about the struggles some men face. And it probably advantages you guys, that’s why you don’t empathize with men like me huh. The fact that you expect women to be advantaged by default is interesting. It’s logical that many women can be happier single when they believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:48 PM
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You’re forgetting that there are statistically speaking more homosexual men than women. So this’d most likely lead to a balanced ratio of straight men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:38 PM
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In many western countries that ratio doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:36 PM
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Why would we have to add value to her life? We aren’t there to be used, we’re there to be loved for who we are. And what peace? I’m not a woman, but i know for sure how relationships work and they outweigh the things you are talking about because they fulfill the fundamental biological need to romance and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:32 PM
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No of course not. But women’s standards shouldn’t be the reason men struggle with getting a relationship and building a family of their own. I couldn’t care less about some women’s standards. I’m sure many of them will stay single if those don’t reflect their value (I see that many women have higher standards than they’re worth and for what they have to offer) I only care about it when they affect me negatively in dating in the sense that I barely have noticeable dating options and opportunities…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:30 PM
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So you’re confirming that some women have used men? Wow. And you’re also probably indirectly confirming that many women don’t like men for who they are, but for what they have and can provide them (why are there otherwise so many single young men?) This would contradict the statement of many of you wanting a genuine connection. Sure there are women that want a genuine connection, but if they set conditions on something as simple as their love, it doesn’t feel genuine, because it’s not unconditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:19 PM
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I never said that I want women to be codependent. I said that I want dating to be fair and equal as it should. Every individual is equal and thus discrimination shouldn’t be allowed. It harms everyone. The men they are using for personal gain AND the ones that have to involuntarily live the single life longer than they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:15 PM
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This makes zero sense. When you have dating options and opportunities (which many women do when they’re young apparently) it becomes much easier to stay single and to have high standards (even if those standards don’t even reflect your real value lol) There are many men with a decent amount of dating options and they can be more content single. But there are also men that struggle immensely. At that point they are basically forced to lower their standards against their will in order to fulfill t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:54 PM
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No it’s not? That’s what shallows that use others for personal gain and don’t love sincerely make out of it. Dating is supposed to be about the unique individual (isn’t that what women say all the time? Didn’t they value genuine connection?). And not all people have coupled up because they were oppressed, died quickly or because they didn’t want to. Nowadays statistics show that pretty much everyone couples up. But some people face unacceptable difficulties in getting a relationship, which is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:38 PM
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The universe expands. That’s not the same as constants evolving omg.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:49 PM
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Who wouldn’t I be mad if many people don’t want them for them? This is a very normal feeling. Dating isn’t about chances. I want a woman that I am attracted to only. I don’t want “chances” with women I don’t desire. But the lack of options and dating opportunities can make men lower their standards. I never said I want a society where women are codependent on men. I said that I want love and that women stating that they are happy single frustrates me because I’m already so disadvantaged to the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:45 PM
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Huh what? How can it develop when constants don’t change?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:36 PM
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It has to do with soulmates because it shows that attraction and attractiveness are completely subjective. The only thing that’s fundamentally needed is fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:35 PM
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Men pay for dopamine and this is just one case. Most of those women aren’t desired by many men. Also most OF models don’t make money they can live off thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:40 PM
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Yeah, now I know how much you lie. No one can use their looks to make that much money. If you really make that much money, i’d date you for that. Looks are something I couldn’t give a f*ck about. I love moneeeey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:35 PM
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How do you explain this for the constants in the universe though? (e.g. gravity, elementary electrical charge and so on)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:34 PM
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You’re not hot lol. And where is your evidence that they don’t want to fulfill a biological need? The whole reason men want romance is because they’re hardwired to crave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:30 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10303478/ (for every person there are countless of potential partners with complementary MHC genes) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9280.1990.tb00079.x (average people most attractive, most people are average) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26441352/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:26 PM
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It’s not a fairy tale at all. It means that for everyone there are compatible partners, which is scientifically supported. Also y’all be calling religious principles fairy tales, yet y’all can’t explain why the natural constansts are perfectly fine tuned to the point they make the existence of the universe and life possible (just a change of like 0,001% in those constants, would make life and the universe as we know it impossible) Y’all can’t explain how neural activity leads to subjective exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:20 PM
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No, if someone doesn’t want me, I want nothing to do with them. I’ll move to the next one. They don’t want you more than anyone else. How wealthy are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:17 PM
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As soon as dating is equal, i’d be more content single and could delay marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:16 PM
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They’re based on attraction. And no one’s unattractive. That’s why soulmates exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:08 PM
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I am looking at it from a neutral lens. You obviously seem to have a narrative already. I talk about what i observe and i know no single woman that’s content. Only when they have options. Also how can a widow be happy when her man died? I don’t know why, but this feels so morally wrong wtf? Romantic relationships are necessary. The degree to which you feel that need differs depending on your options and opportunities. Like I said before, people who can eat and drink at any time they please, don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:02 PM
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My religion and my biology are stopping me lol. Two genders exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:59 PM
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No it doesn’t. There’s a study that shows that people are generally attracted to certain people but not others. That shows that it is natural and that soulmates indeed exist in some way as for every fertile person there are compatible people. Men can reproduce and couple throughout their whole life’s. Women can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:51 PM
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Always blaming the victim. No, I’m not. I don’t even get the chance to show myself. Reddit shows that there’s a shocking amount of men that feel the same. Naturally speaking, I’m a good person. But the person behind me isn’t seen. And that makes me bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:48 PM
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No it’s not about that. It’s about being disadvantaged already because of discrimination. Women staying single and gaslighting others into that same life is what advantages me on top of that, because it limits my own dating options. I wouldn’t care about them staying single if I didn’t struggle. This refutes your claim already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:46 PM
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Nope. Biologically speaking all fertile men are supposed to couple up. There’s no reason for them not to as there is no natural selection (they have survived their evironments and thus can reproduce) And my religion goes hand in hand with biology. If only a few men would be supposed to couple up, it would apply to women as well and there wouldn’t be a need of a big human population. This however is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:40 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know any. I only know those that are sad. The only happy one’s I hear about are on social media. But are they really happy if they have to convince others of it? Doesn’t seem like it. There’s probably an agenda behind it. Romance is one of the most important things spiritually and biologically speaking. Much more important than sex, so this reinforces my belief that there’s something behind it even more. They can be happier single because they have more dating options and opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:34 PM
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Your anecdotal experiences doesn’t make it incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:25 PM
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Bruh, i wouldn’t care about you rejecting me if i could easily find someone else. But if i am structurally disadvantaged, I’m much more likely to take it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:24 PM
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God didn’t make women attracted to a small percentage of men. Biologically speaking all men have attractiveness to the right women. There are countless of potential partners for every man. Biologically speaking tallness and height don’t even matter in a man’s attractiveness that much (it’s WOMEN making it matter, not their biology) Men are also attracted to a select few of women, because no one will be attracted to everyone, yet women don’t struggle when they are young. God created a very balanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:15 PM
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This confirms your ego lmao. They most likely didn’t. What do you have that other women don’t? The only reason I become frustrated when there’s rejection is when I do not have the options they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:11 PM
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I never said that. I just said that it’s not naturally supposed to be that way. There still are plenty of women to choose from for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:09 PM
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How the f*ck am I supposed to like them if that’s what they are like? Why do they lie about seeking depth if this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:03 PM
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No I judge based in what i see. I see them everywhere lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:57 PM
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Naturally speaking men aren’t supposed to not have romantic succes. Any fertile man that survives is supposed to reproduce, because sexual reproduction isn’t about your eggs, it’s about genetic variation. And the more people reproduce, the better. There’s also genetically compatible people for everyone. I don’t understand how women would have more romantic succes if most of men’s attraction towards them is sexual. Though I want romance. Reproduction and sex (don’t even like it that much) are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:56 PM
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I don’t felt it, because I don’t see a shortage of young women in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:49 PM
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They should have control over the things women like. Though even that is wrong, because it implicates a man has to change himself, rather than being liked for who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:45 PM
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It’s not supposed to be this way because the chances of both genders are exactly equal at fertilization. If you took the other variables away, you’ll have exactly as many females and males.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:40 PM
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Yes it is structural if those men have no control over what those women like. Considering that every human being is unique, Why’d they like the same thing? I mean, I believe that it’s only possible when men are being discriminated at based on superficial things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:38 PM
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That’s not how it’s naturally supposed to be. If we took out certain variables, the natural ratio would be 50/50. The chance on a female equals the chance on a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:30 PM
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They can be structural if those personal choices tend to overlap in what men are excepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:28 PM
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Another fallacy. There are billions of women. So why wouldn’t there be countless of women that like me for me, just as it’s supposed to be statistically? Doesn’t make sense. When it’s not some, but most women you meet, it is structural, because they’re all excepting you, thus limiting your own ability to choose with whom you want to partner up and when you want to partner up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:12 PM
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The legal system isn’t perfect. We have laws and shit, but those are all just human constructs. I mean, there could be a law that forces you to give up all your assets to the government. Technically you don’t have the right to your assets at that point, but morally, logically and naturally you do, because you have worked for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:06 PM
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I don’t criticize that, I criticize that it limits my own dating options and opportunities which makes fulfilling a fundamental human need more challenging than it has to be. I’m allowed to resent them for that, because this IS injustice. Discrimination is injustice by definition. As is only valuing someone for the perks they provide you, thus using them. There’s no reason to love a shallow asshole if it’s not reciprocated. If you are invisible to them (deliberately probably lol) over what? Bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:57 AM
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It’s still a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:41 AM
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I don’t have a problem with some women not wanting me at all. I have a problem when it becomes so structural that fulfilling the natural deep desire to romance suddenly becomes much more challenging. And finding a woman you actually desire becomes even more difficult. I believe that everyone with the natural desire to love would have a huge problem with that, because they’re basically dependent on others then rather than having the ability of choice themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:40 AM
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Discrimination based on things I have zero control (even though most of them aren’t perfect themselves) disadvantages me. I want an equal partner. I want a deep romantic relationship. I believe that I have a decent personality, yet I’m not liked for who I am apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:39 AM
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Of course not. I just want someone to like me for me. That’s what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:32 AM
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It unjustifiably disadvantages men in dating. I just want love with a suitable woman. Sure, I have standards, but they aren’t that high. It takes infatuation. I don’t want getting something as simple as a romantical connection with a person of the opposite sex destined for you to be so unreasonably and disproportionally difficult (for what you get out of it) in a world with an equal balance between the genders and theoretically plenty of fish in the ocean. What do you mean with your last sentenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:13 AM
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This question was mainly meant for men, not for the (probably) gaslighting women I am talking about. My question was what those men thought about it personally and if they feel the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:11 AM
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Okay? I don’t care, you do you. The fact that you had to brought those things up, shows that you are trying to convince me. Doesn’t seem like real happiness, seems like gaslighting people into a false narrative.The only thing I care about is being disadvantages myself in getting something as simple as a relationship. I have family too and a network, but when you’re so disadvantaged that you do not have the dating options and opportunities that you should have, you still feel the emptiness of not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:04 AM
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I don’t. Though no one prefers to be alone, who could give a fuck about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:29 AM
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But isn’t it this that disadvantages many men in dating? Genuinely curious. Because many men feel discriminated against based on things they have no control over (you can’t change the genes you’ve been given)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:20 AM
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What a b*tch (i’m sorry) That should be illegal. It’s truly harmful. Not only for you, but also for the kids and probably the person she cheated on you with (it’d certainly make me uncomfortable knowing I’m with someone who cheated on a fellow man) And yes you’re right. However, i’d like to be needed biologically by them. This makes them desire men in the first place. Not for external factors like finances and stuft like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:17 AM
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How am I otherwise supposed to get a relationship? I have the right to be liked for who i am and not for what I have or what i provide. I do not exist for their personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:13 AM
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That makes sense. For example, I see how they say how much they want equality between the genders. But I don’t see them adress the huge ineuqualities between the genders in say dating, mental healthcare and so on (what was the right term for it psychologically, cherry picking? I think so) I see some of them talk about how much they value men being vulnerable, yet I see how much it turns them off. I see how they talk about wanting genuine connections, but yet the men that want those serious conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:11 AM
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Sure, they’re overrated. But unfortunately it’s difficult to not hyperfocus on getting love when you’re so disadvantaged at it that you have to initiate things or else nothing happens. No miracle, nothing generally speaking for many men. Just boredom while waiting for people to validate your self worth and options in general, which unfortunately doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:04 AM
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If anything this just shows how disadvantaged men actually are in dating wtf. I mean, if he did have equal opportunities and options it wouldn’t be hard to dump because you could find another one in a matter of a month or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:00 AM
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The annoying thing is that we are incredibly disadvantaged in dating. Unless you’re asexual and aromantic (which suddenly becomes a very realistic thing reading your comment), that’s one of the big reasons men can be less content single than women. It’s a natural basic human need biologically and psychologically but the degree to which you feel the need can differ significantly between individuals depending on their options and opportunities. Those with fewer opportunities and options will be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:51 AM
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When you are not liked because you don’t suit whatever perfect image they have of things you have zero control over, then it’s the definition of discrimination. You are being excepted structurally because of things you have no control over. You aren’t liked for you at all. This brings me to the question of whether some women’s love is real or fake. Whether it’s a tactic to use someone or whether it’s genuinely meant in the sense that she likes the person for him. The uniqueness of a person that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:41 AM
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The solution is simple: women lowering their unjustifiably high standards (because most of them are average themselves) The issue isn’t that men are below women’s leagues (for many men there are plenty of women within their leagues) It’s that those women have unrealistic discriminatory expectations which hinders many men in getting something as simple as a romantic connection
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:39 AM
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It is proof that it is fundamental. And with can not live without it I mean, you cannot live without it involuntarily without experiencing some sort of chronical stress and health issues that can decrease your life expectancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:37 AM
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Nope, it’s a biological need confirmed by neurobiological evidence. The whole purpose of two genders is to complement each other. If it wasn’t for the individuals of those genders being with each other, there wouldn’t be a need for women. The same brain regions involved in making someone thirsty and hungry and getting them to fulfill those needs to food and water are active when someone desires romantic love. This is a natural desire. It’s not just a want. That’s why i always laugh at people tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:40 AM
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My problem is that women don’t like me for me. I’m the victim of discrimination within the dating field most likely just like many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:37 AM
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THANK YOU 🙏🏼 I always knew something was off. Why? What kind of person who’s truly happy would feel the need to convince other people of how OOO greAt single life is? It seems like bitterness and misandry more than anything else to me. If I didn’t struggle with dating i wouldn’t feel anything about it. I’d be glad that they are out of the “dating pool”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:35 AM
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Classic example of the difference in what men perceive and what women perceive, probably due to the fact that men have less dating options and opportunities, which makes staying single worser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:34 AM
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Two genders exist for a reason so your argument is refutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:32 AM
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Your gut is right. I’m sure you feel the biological “need” to romantic love as much as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:32 AM
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Define “not desirable” “I don’t think it’s the same” How would a man want to be with a woman he doesn’t desire? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:30 AM
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How the fuck does that replace one of a human being’s deepest biological and spiritual needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:29 AM
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The biggest disadvantage is that many men don’t really have dating options (noticeable signs of romantic interest from the women around them) and opportunities (where they could meet a partner) That makes getting a relationship much more challenging. The frustrating part is that when a man doesn’t approach or take initiatives, nothing happens. Literally nothing generally speaking. Meanwhile many (young) women can be passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:29 AM
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You’re making a mistake here, I believe. The reason men are less content single generally speaking, can largely be attributed to the fact that men are more disadvantaged in dating and not to how strong their social networks are. Because this is a fundamental need biologically speaking, it’ll make the brain go in some survival mode. You only need a few strong social connections to feel content. And many men can get those from their family too in principle, though friends would be nice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:24 AM
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Bro, it’s literally a biological fact that romance and community are seperated human needs. They serve completely different evolutionary and spiritual purposes and generally speaking romance has much more value than friendships. The argument about social contacts being able to replace the need for romantic love is false. Sure, being single might be less harmful because at least you have other people to fall back on, but it’s still going to be a need. I know people that have the greatest network,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:22 AM
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It’s literally scientifically confirmed that people by default crave positive attention (attraction) because it confirms their “value”. Whether you’re attracted to those people or not. So he’s right. I’d personally feel attacked if a woman below my league found me unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:02 PM
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Yeah but their friends and other women find them attractive, so I don’t get why those bitter women have to declare openly that those men are unattractive to THEM. I mean, they can keep that shit inside if they had any form of developed moral compass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:00 PM
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Most men aren’t attracted to most women either. Attractiveness is subjective biologically speaking. The question here is why women are declaring to the outside world that the boyfriends of their friends or whatever female relative are unattractive (while they’re not; their girlfriends and other women obviously find them attractive, experienced this myself) There seems to be something hidden behind that. You didn’t answer the question. All you did was making false generalizations and statements t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:57 PM
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I said some women. I’m calling out patterns i’ve recognized and I’m mainly talking about my self. I think it’s neutral enough tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:40 AM
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We don’t want to focus on it. The thing is that we are so disadvantaged at this field to the point it’s hard not to. Because if we don’t initiate, usually nothing happens. Many of us do not notice being approached or even subtle signs of romantic/sexual interests. This limits our options and opportunities significantly. It’s not that we want to focus on it, it’s that we are FORCED to. It’s hard for the brain to focus on other things when one fundamental need remains unfulfilled. I don’t remember…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:50 PM
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That argument isn’t strong. Most men didn’t get the chance to reproduce during history because of opression and the wars they were forced to fight, while women were protected. Nowadays the trend is that pretty much all men are coupling up as nature intends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:44 PM
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THIS. You worded it right brother. That’s the most frustrating part. If we don’t initiate shit (unfortunately with high risk of rejection for some reason) basically nothing happens. I’ve been going my own way for a long time. Not one time have I been approached (vague signals aside) I wish i could follow up on their advice. But when you are so disadvantaged in dating, it’s hard to focus on other things, because the brain sees that as a threat. Why? Romantic relationships are considered basic hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:40 PM
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I would love it if women approach us either instead of paradoxally feeding the harmful traditional gender norm that men are the pursuers, which results in nothing happening for so many men when they do not take initiatives themselves. Thought feminism wanted to make things more equal and to get rid of traditional roles or norms. But this is the definition of cherry picking. While most women preach for equality, many men do not notice equality in the field of dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:38 PM
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Brother, what’s the relevance of genes? Everyone that lives and survives has good genes by definition. So it’s not like those men have bad genetics. And I think pretty much every biologist can agree that if looks and height matter, it’s one of the dumbest things hardwired in human beings as they do not reflect genetic quality and health greatly. The most important things (your heart, immune system, intelligence, personality etc) aren’t visible. With modern technologies human beings have pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:30 PM
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Lol, if those women don’t complain about it, they’re not as disadvantaged as they think they are. As a man, I wouldn’t complain about shit if I actually had as many dating options and opportunities as young women do. Unattractive people don’t exist. Most of the many young men (up to 30 until dynamics change and most men get married) that are single against their willing and miss out on the love they could have in their years, because of some unfair shit in dating, are NOT unattractive. They’re j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:03 AM
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“Nobody” is stopping you guys. Define nobody? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:54 AM
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It’s not about sex for me, it’s about something that should be as simple as romantic love. And I really am not romantically interested in any woman I see, because infatuation is very selective and subjective for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:11 AM
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Well, attraction isn’t about sexual attraction. The real attraction is infatuation and attachment which is subjective in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:07 AM
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Only bitter women say this. It’s young men that struggle with dating. They certainly are NOT in their prime if they struggle. According to science men’s attractiveness remains stable with age and can even increase. Why? Men remain biologically useful for their whole life’s. They can pass on their genes their whole life’s. So it is logical that nature gives men the ability to couple up and pass on their genes for their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:46 PM
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Huh? Most men are handsome (they have decent bodies), yet they do struggle with dating, I’m good looking and intelligent (last trait matters more in a man’s attractiveness as looks don’t really matter; men remain fertile their whole life’s and weren’t evolutionary meant to be good looking and also unlike women don’t decrease in attractiveness with age) but struggle (not that it should matter in the first place as I want f*cking LOVE and that isn’t supposed to he superficial. Everyone deserves lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:41 AM
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Men’s attractiveness aren’t looks based. If they were, men could use make-up (and yes it can really make you significantly better looking) with the same results as women. But we know it doesn’t matter and therefore aren’t invested into it. I’m also good looking (not that it should fucking matter) but still don’t notice any advantage. Many women don’t look better than me (the only difference is that they have longer hair and another body that makes them more aesthetically pleasing to look at prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:34 AM
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That’s because men have less opportunities (places) aside of school and work to meet a partner, have to face geographical limitations which decreases the chance of meeting women that are attracted to them and because they tend to have less time to date due to full time jobs. That exactly is unfair and needs to be adressed. No man should struggle more with dating than women. That the definition of inequality and unfairness and can be incredibly harmful if it’s involuntarily. At the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:08 AM
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That’s an exception that has something to do with how you approach things individually, not the norm. Men aren’t supposed to struggle and catch on. Balances shift with age. Women become less attractive, men’s attractiveness remains stable and can even increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:59 AM
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Sure 💀 You’re only 50 years old when it suits your narrative huh? I know no man at that age that believes those childish things that you do. And I know no man at that age I know struggles with dating. They all told me dating becomes SIGNIFICANTLY easier after the age of 30 and statistics and science agree. Most men marry after that age. And if those men divorce, they’re statistically MUCH MORE likely to remarry within a short timeframe than a woman. With as many women as men in the world and wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:29 AM
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It is gonna happen because looks scientifically are irrelevant in a man’s overall attractiveness. As a man who is good looking and intelligent but struggles with dating, I know this damn wel. No man is inherently unattractive. All men can attract multiple women in their life’s. That’s biologically and statistically obvious. There are BILLIONS of women. There is no quantity issue, there’s countless of young adult women to choose from. Also, most women are in the leagues of most men, because most …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:05 AM
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Bro if what y’all we’re saying was true, NO single man would struggle with getting sex. I mean, the whole reason the average young woman has her options is because men have higher libido’s. If women had the same libido, many of their interactions with you would probably be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:57 AM
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If it wasn’t an issue than men would sexually attract women to the same degree as young women do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:54 AM
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Then why don’t many men notice this? No man is sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:53 AM
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Everything they’re saying is false lol. I know no man over 40 that struggles with dating. In fact, all of them told me that they truly struggled at young age, just like the majority of young men do (if they were in their primes at young age, no young man would struggle with getting something as simple as a relationship; there’s as many women as men, they aren’t supposed to struggle biologically) but got it significantly easier with age. I’m also noticing a slight shift with age and attract more …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:45 AM
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That’s believable, but men over the age of forty having fewer options don’t make any sense. Statistics don’t support that at all. Old men have the easiest time dating. All old men I know told and showed me, that if they wanted a relationshipthey easily could. Men do not decrease in attractiveness with age according to studies. But women do, because they lose their fertility. Men are biologically useful their whole life’s. It’s really funny how all incels are younger men and that the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:40 AM
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Single men over 40 aren’t skrewed. I know many men over that age and they have a way easier time dating than young men do. Remember, it’s young men that struggle not the older ones. It’s most young men that are single statistically, not older men. They have dating options. Men get dating options with age. All the old men I know have said and proven that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:37 AM
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Men feel more of a drive to seek sex, not a mate. Sex drive is about exactly that: sex. In order for romance and lasting relationships to happen, infatuation needs to be present and most of the time it isn’t. Men don’t have a higher drive in that than women do. Most men aren’t romantically attracted to most women. And sexual attraction isn’t even real attraction. It’s sexual lust over body parts. But attraction is about three pillars: sexual attraction, romantic attraction and attachment. Only t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:31 AM
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Evolution has no goal, so that’s false. And by your logic, “not so good” women wouldn’t reproduce either, because men select their partners too ultimately. All of a species absolutely is supposed to at least couple up. The reason not all will reproduce has everything to do with life expectancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:27 AM
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I mean that no man is inherently undesirable in the sense that no man is unattractive. Most men are average and therefore most women are in the leagues of most men. Anyone will ALWAYS have multiple people that’ll be attracted to them. There’s no such thing as being attractive to no one, as it is subjective. I meet many women that do not show interest (which I believe is unfair as it limits my opportunities and options in dating), but i meet way better women that are attracted to me now and then.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:00 AM
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It is equal in the infatuation sense, because men do not get infatuated to any women they meet. Just a select few. The only difference in attraction is that men are more sexually driven and therefore can lust over more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:06 PM
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Lol no. Attraction is absolutely subjective. No one’s objectively attractive. And what you call conventional attractive differs significantly per culture (aside of facial symmetry) The differences in beauty standards already strongly suggest it’s not objective. And no, there are 4 billion women. It is not statistically impossible to meet multiple women that are attracted to you wherever you are. There are literally BILLIONS of them and no man is unattractive or undesirable. I f*cking hate that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:56 PM
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Bruh you are annoying. Incels don’t exist strictly. It’s an ideology. Not a biological phenomon. Biological science doesn’t acknowledge their existence fundamentally. Pretty much all of those so called incels end up married. All self proclaimed incels i’ve stumbled upon are young men. All old men I know are married or have been in multiple long term relationships. Doesn’t change the fact that dating is still more unfair for men than it has to be, but still. I see incel as nothing more than a sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:46 PM
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That would mean that their attraction is objective, but that’s not how human attraction works. It’s subjective by definition. No one is inherently unattractive (you can be unattractive to some, but very atttactive to others; i and I’m sure many people have faced this regularly) and no is objectively attractive (no matter how many people are attracted to you, there’ll always be people that aren’t). This ensures that everyone can reproduce and contribute to genetic variation. At the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:44 PM
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Nope. If you talking biology you’ll know that women that are close to or hit menopause are practically biologically useless, so there’s no point for men to be with them. Men generally are most attracted to beautiful women in their 20s. Also, if there are men that struggle with dating, there’ll always be women that do too in a world with roughly as many women as men. What you’re talking about isn’t what i and men I know experience. We only get attracted to a few women and don’t care about the res…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:30 PM
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Lie. Men generally aren’t attracted to old women. What do you mean any woman? If you’re talking biology, you’d know that women that hit menopause or are close to it aren’t really biologically useful anymore, so there is no evolutionary advantage in men being with those women. Aside of that, there’ll always be women that men won’t chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:27 PM
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Show me a source that explicitly states this. Because that is not true. All men possess attractiveness and unlike women they keep it for pretty much ever. It’s not men that lose fertility. They can reproduce throughout their whole life’s. Thus, many men marry after 30z
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:18 PM
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There are many men that are not attractive to you, not to other women. All men are attractive to multiple women, though not all women. You don’t get to determine the attractiveness of other people. The world does. And so far, most men aren’t unattractive. Most men are average. There are no undesirable men. Biologically speaking everyone is supposed to couple so it doesn’t make sense if some people that reach sexual maturity and can reproduce don’t attract mates. I’m not talking about money. I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:53 PM
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WHO says he wants you too? Men generally would prefer an above average woman over any other woman. It’s just when a man doesn’t really have a choice that he’s “forced” to settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:05 PM
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We are upset if they just want sex and don’t go deeper with us in the form of romance. Especially when seeing all those women complaining about men only wanting them casually and saying that they don’t care about sex. So to me, it’s kind of hypocritical when I see them value casual relationships more than intimate, lasting relationships. Like on dating apps, i’ve heard. It just makes me so mad and I have trust issues because of that. I’m more skeptical on what I see (many) women say now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:04 PM
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Bro study to study shows that looks barely matter in a man’s overall attractiveness. They do matter in women’s attractiveness, but they don’t in men, because men remain fertile their whole life’s and looks are in no way accurate indicators of gene quality, just fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:02 PM
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It’s not just about that. It about wanting love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:59 PM
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What? Those men are literally thirsting over your body parts. They don’t like you for you most likely if it’s sexual. I’m a man so I know. If women get so much attention due to men’s unfortunate high libidos (which disadvantages men at the end of the day) then it’s inevitable for me to believe that those men give attention to multiple women. This makes the attention less personal and more towards body parts or behavior they lust over. I don’t understand how women like you just cannot understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:50 PM
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That’s literally what I’m saying lol. We do know that most people aren’t attracted to most people, because people get attracted to a select group of people. And none of those groups are the same, because attractiveness and attraction are subjective. You’re trying so hard to talk nonsense and it’s hilarious. You clearly have some sort of narrative that you’d like to push, not because it’s true, but most likely because it advantages you in some way. There are billions of women in the world. For ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:41 PM
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Not really, because like I said, there’ll always be people that ARE attracted to you, no matter how much people you meet aren’t. There are people that don’t notice many interest irl, but notice interest regularly on dating apps for example (not that they’re a great way to meet people, but still)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:17 PM
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I beg to differ. it’s not because they are not attractive. It is because they don’t want to I’m sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:29 PM
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That is not true. There are no unattractive men biologically speaking. From an evolutionary viewpoint everyone that reaches sexual maturity is supposed to reproduce with the right person. For every person there are multiple potential partners. In a world with billions of people, it theoretically is a lot. The data doesn’t show otherwise. Statistics show that most women and men end up married. Most men that do not marry, either enter long term relationships instead, aren’t interested in marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:08 PM
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Yeah, that’s true. More precisely, no man is unattractive. I know many men that aren’t any worser than the average woman. No matter how much people aren’t attracted to you, there’s always be people that are (attractiveness and attraction are subjective) Just like, no matter how much people you tend to attract, there’s always be people that aren’t attracted to you. The difficult thing however is that it takes the right time and place to meet those people and feel a spark. That’s an issue for many…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:55 PM
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It’s not just about sex, it’s about romance and therefore relationships. We want relationships with women we actually desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:35 PM
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Sister, that’s cope. As a man, I know it’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:31 PM
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To be fair, it is a natural and religious right. It just isn’t acknowledged by the government yet (patriarchy, y’all say we living in huh? 😂) We don’t have to fight for shi bruh. We only should have to If women have to either. But no they don’t have to when they are young generally speaking, so it is logical for us to want to just sit and get a relationship without too much effort. It should be simple. There are BILLIONS of women in this world. I really get so mad everytime I think about this fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:26 PM
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Not trying to justify anything he said as it is incredibly horrible, harmful and inhumane. But i’d assume because many women don’t seem to want men for them, but for what they have. If they weren’t shallow, men wouldn’t struggle with dating and they’d be actually able to form lasting romantic relationships, rather than sexual, casual one’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:25 PM
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That doesn’t make sense. There are roughly as many men as women. If that was true, than all men approached multiple women of different age groups. But that just isn’t the case. There’s no point in men being with old women, unless they were married when they were young and have children to raise. Men of all age groups literally prefer beautiful women in their 20s. Attraction is important and older women just arent attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:17 PM
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Uh, isn’t that supposed to be like the point? Attractiveness and attraction are subjective. Just because you’re not attracted to them, doesn’t mean they are unattractive. They are attractive to other women. There are women that don’t find me attractive at all (even though I’m good looking (not that it should matter) and intelligent), but there have also been women that found me very attractive. You don’t find those men attractive? So what? There are other women that do. You’re most likely not ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:15 PM
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I don’t believe that shit. Scientifically speaking men prefer women that are younger than them. And statistically speaking men are the oldest in most couples. Look it up. Why am i getting the idea that you’re a woman? 😭 Because obviously you don’t seem to know how men’s attraction works. The whole reason young women have all their options is because men are more sexually driven. And young beautiful women peak in sexual attractiveness. When this decreases, there is no stimulus to pursue her anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:10 PM
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They don’t. Science concludes rhey get less attractive with age significantly. There’s no point in a man dating an unattractive women. It doesn’t make sense biologically to date women that aren’t really fertile anymore either. I don’t know any old man that is attractive to me nor any other man, nor I know any woman past 40 that has an easy time dating. Studies show that men of all age groups prefer women in their 20s over any other woman. So your notion is false. Men get more options when older …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:04 PM
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Bruh absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:01 PM
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I don’t agree with anything you said. I just know this is an easy thing to say as a woman. But no, I am absolutely entitled to romantic love, just like anyone else. Two genders exist for a go damn reason. Everyone absolutely deserves both a a family and a partner if they want. Life’s too short to cater to unfairness and inequality in one of the fundamental aspects of life. The fact that people - mainly women - are saying this just makes me so angry. Young men already struggle with dating, so thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:10 PM
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At this point you’re just talking nonsense, because you most likely have some narrative (that advantages you) that you’d like to push. It is unfair because those are basic human desires that we are talking about that are hardwired into biology. Everyone deserves a partner of the opposite gender that literally exists for their gender. No one should be uncoupled against their willing. Everyone deserves a desirable romantic partner to live life with and everyone deserves a family of their own if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:06 PM
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It’s unfair that women have more dating options and opportunities than men do. “Something can be harder for someone and not another person, and ThAtS nOt NecEsSarilY unFaiR” Says who? That’s literally the definition of unfairness. If someone has an easier time because of whatever than another person, that is unfair for the person that struggles with it. It’s especially unfair because it seems that the average woman has an easier time dating than the average man. That is pure inequality and that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:43 PM
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WHO are you to talk about what men want as a woman? Sure, this is the reason women have their dating options. But I’m talking about romantic relationships here. Though men do not get easily infatuated, romantic relationships are absolutely a natural desire in individuals of both genders. And those needs can’t be fulfilled outside of a romantic relationship, because that need is completely separated from other needs. I can truly speak about that, because my libido is very low. That means that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:30 PM
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Broo, why the hell does dating have to be so complicated for men 😭 There literally are as many women as there are men smfh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:49 AM
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Nope. I don’t see how they have an advantage when men aren’t attracted to them. Men have been hardwired to be attracted to young, fertile women, not to women that have reached or are close to their biological clock (menopause) That’s just facts. Studies show that women’s attractiveness decreases with age, while men’s remains stable. It definitely seems to be fertility related. This shows that attraction and attractiveness is about fertility and not so much about superior genes, because everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:21 AM
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People that tell others they deserve to be alone deserve to be alone themselves. But unfortunately the women that say that are most likely too advantaged socially for that to happen. They request empathy, but yet don’t reciprocate it to men generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:36 AM
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Trying to justify having higher standards that you as a probably average woman do not deserve, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 10:09 AM
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Yep, men are only desperate when they lack options. I know a man that’s on the same level of looks as I am that attracts women regularly, and he never felt desperate at all. He never thought of women as anything special. Meanwhile, I started to feel desperate after noticing that i apparently lack options and therefore cannot easily get into a relationship whenever I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:44 AM
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Lmao I don’t see women drooling over me, even though I do see myself as a sexy guy .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:37 AM
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That’s literally what my post is about. Women have more options because of men’s sexual drives. And this leads to men struggling. Women aren’t lining up for sex with the average guy? Can’t they be realistic for once? Most of them are average, so those women are in the leagues of those men. And scientific studies show that average people are the most attractive actually. They’re average for a reason. It’s what nature has selected to be normal. Also, I’m above average looks wise and intelligence w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:36 AM
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Bro what? Science disagrees with you. Men can be as selective as women are and that’s evolutionary advantageous. That’s science. Its also science that attraction and attractiveness are subjective. So every man is attractive to multiple potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:35 AM
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Huh, but biologically speaking no man is sexually nor romantically unattractive. In a world with as many women this brings up so many questions. Why don’t men notice women being sexually aroused or attracted to them on a regular basis? Most men are average so most women are within their leagues. And average is most attractive scientifically speaking. I believe women are so advantaged by sexually driven men that they can afford themselves to have higher unrealistic and unjustifiable standards tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:29 AM
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That’s false. Scientifically speaking men are supposed to get more and more options with age as men do in no way peak in their youth. Hence, so many young men that are single against their willing and can’t easily get out of it because of how disadvantaged they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:23 AM
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There are tons of average men that have partners because most women are average too. But that doesn’t take away the fact that many men struggle to get there. And that’s what he’s talking about. That’s skrewed and makes dating incredibly unfair and inequal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:22 AM
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That’s literally what my post is about. Women have more options because of men’s sexual drives. And this leads to men struggling. Women aren’t lining up for sex with the average guy? Can’t they be realistic for once? Most of them are average, so those women are in the leagues of those men. And scientific studies show that average people are the most attractive actually. They’re average for a reason. It’s what nature has selected to be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:18 AM
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Bro, there’s a huge difference between sexual attraction and infatuation though. They’re separated. Infatuation is what we call real attraction and what brings people together, not sexual attraction. That’s what people brings together casually. Not to mention that no man sexually or romantically unattractive. So it doesn’t make sense that men do not attract desirable women regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:15 AM
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But no man is undesirable, so it really f*cking bothers me that men do not have as many dating options as women in a world with as many women as men. In a world with as many below average men as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:13 AM
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Women only have this advantage at young age. Scientific studies found that their attractiveness decreases significantly which age and this makes biologically sense; they become less fertile and it does not have any evolutionary advantage for a man to be with an infertile woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:32 AM
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Not at all. Men are only more desperate because of the unfair imbalance in dating. Women don’t have a high status for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:30 AM
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Speak for yourself. The only reason I and so many men I know are more desperate is because we lack dating options at this point of our life’s. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t be desperate and could be as content single. Other things could be prioritized at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:53 AM
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I literally gave logical reasons that explains why men tend to crave it more. As a man i know what I’m talking about. I wouldn’t be craving relationships as much if I got approached by women regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:41 AM
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We aren’t animals. I’ve never felt any instinct to fight over a woman. In human beings there are roughly as many women as men. So there are plenty of women and theoretically potential partners for every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:26 PM
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It absolutely did. You cant speak for any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:54 PM
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I’ve met women that have put zero effort in really, but still found me attractive and interesting. Usually in public. So I don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:50 PM
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No it doesn’t equal not interested necessarily. Especially with women that don’t even seem to approach men themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:44 PM
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Because dating is unfair for men. It’s harder to let go of it when you’re so disadvantaged. Though if she is explicitly not interested (instead of just a lack of effort) then that should be respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 11:30 PM
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Women aren’t interested in them in that way? Why such a broad generalization in a world with many women and with all men possessing attractiveness as it’s subjective. I’ve attracted some women, but not others. Why? Because attractiveness is subjective. I could bet that you aren’t attracted to any woman you meet either. Just a few women when it comes to who you fall in love or infatuated with (not talking about sexual attraction that seems to be triggered by something as simple as a body part)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:43 AM
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The person you’re responding to is a woman but she did communicate herself very well. Stop being misogynistic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:08 PM
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Why are you getting his/her point? The reason only 40% men procreated was because most of human history was filled with wars
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:42 AM
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Thank you for this insightful answe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:32 PM
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Not all men bald and many men don’t look bad at old age, regardless of their wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:23 PM
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Women and men don’t lose their value at the same rate at all. Studies show that men’s physical attractiveness remains stable with age, while women’s attractiveness significantly decreases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:13 PM
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Men literally become more valuable biologically with age. There are multiple reasons to that. And the age of the father can affect the health of the offspring, but the thing is: there are no guarantees. Plenty of old men have gotten healthy kids too. Biologically speaking sperm isn’t supposed to degrade. But it still happens due to EXTERNAL factors. And even then, that’s not what matters. What matters is that a man is able to impregnate women during his whole life under normal circumstances. Evo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:06 PM
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But that’s not how it’s supposed to be though (sperm quality can be preserved with proper measurements and it doesn’t degrade in every individual; some have way better systems against external factors than others for instance) and it doesn’t matter, because men remain fertile their whole life’s and that we’re only talking about increased chances, not guarantees. So it’s only logical that men become more biologically valuable with age. There are so many things to name about this. One of them is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:39 PM
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I don’t understand how this is confusing for women at all. Men are simply in their prime’s at older age, it’s that simple. You most likely deliberately find them disgusting as there’s really no reason for me personally to think of that makes them “disgusting” at allz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:15 PM
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That’s not my experience. I notice that many of them are desperate and sad when they notice their prime is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:14 PM
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Unmarried at 40? He’ll marry after 40 don’t worry. There are plenty of women and most men marry after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:33 AM
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Why the hell can’t I provide any links?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:07 PM
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Yeah but that doesn’t change the fact that old men have an easy time dating. And this doesn’t make sense when the majority of young men are still uncoupled. How are those statistics logical at that point? There’s something going on. Would love to see it’s methodology. Why’d any man want to date a woman that hit or is close to menopause? (The biological clock) There’s absolutely no single evolutionary advantage to a reproductively valuable male being with a biologically useless women. And nature …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:03 PM
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I don’t listen to what women have to say about this, because they (Some of them, you included) are bitter and don’t like it because it challenges their advantages. Pretty much all old men are married (statistics show that all willing men eventually marry and most do at roughly 30 or after 30) And no, old men don’t struggle. I know plenty and none of them struggle with getting dates. Statistically old men are much more likely to remarry after a divorce than old women. The men that do struggle are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:58 PM
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Yet old men have no issue getting young women still.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:51 PM
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That doesn’t matter. They still have more dating options and opportunities than men and that’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:50 PM
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Men aren’t inherently more desperate. It’s logical that men will become more desperate after a time when they see how limited their dating options and especially opportunities are. Young women generally don’t seem to notice this limitation if they are good looking (with make-up on) It’s logical that you’ll be less desperate at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:18 AM
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But the issue is that no man is inherently unattractive. The average woman isn’t more attractive than the average man romantic wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:03 PM
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Almost. Only because men are more sexually driven do women have the options that they have. This does lead to women being less likely to actively look for men than vice versa. Many men HAVE to actively look for relationships when their options and opportunities are so limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:42 PM
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We (the serious men) feel entitled to romantic relationships. If we are born with the fundamental desire to romance hardwired into us against our willing and two genders literally existing for each other, it’s logical to feel a sense of entitlement to that. Sex is another story though. And I don’t agree with you as someone who’s really into biology. There are roughly as many women as there are men (both in the billions) Nature strives for balance in most cases. This mean’s that in principle, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:30 PM
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Sorry, i just dont’t agree with that. Dating doesn’t seem difficult for women to me when the most mediocre women and women that are worser looking than me, are less intelligent than me, have achieved less than me and so on (hate to say that) get more matches than I do as long as they’re young. Having options is still better than having no noticeable option, regardless of quality issues. Men that face both quantity and quality (because let’s be honest, even if you as a man have a few options, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:50 PM
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You can look it up man. And (objective) evidence doesn’t mean that much when we’re talking about something so subjective. There’s so many individual differences in this. At that point, reasoning logically is more effective and efficiënt to come to the truth. You have to take both objectivity and subjectivity into account to come to a conclusion that actually represents reality well and that’s hard. But objectively both women and men have the fundamental desire to romantic love and sex. That’s a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:25 PM
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I know the study you’re talking about. The most major one has been debunked by experts for misinterpreting a fundamental variable. As of the rest, you shouldn’t take men’s higher libido as desiring relationships more than women do. There’s a difference between desiring sexual and desiring romantic relationships. Many of those men can be fulfilled with hookups and casual sex already (no wonder men are overrepresented in cheating statistics) so that already refutes your notion if you meant romance…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:20 PM
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He probably means that women significantly influence each other. What starts with a decision of one woman can become more widespread than you’d think. Especially with the large social networks they’re able to create, thanks to the way society makes it easy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:15 PM
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You’ve probably read absolutely nothing further than me refuting that science with counterfacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:11 PM
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It does absolutely matter, because I have the right to be critical about those statements and studies. Also, it’s not really reliable science when one fundamental variable has been misinterpreted. That’s exactly what happened with that study that claims that single women are the happiest demographic (which doesn’t even make sense) It literally makes the whole conclusion invalid. Aside of that, the study isn’t representative of all women at all. It’s conducted in the USA, so it can’t represent th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:04 PM
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I don’t believe those women to be fair. I don’t want to accuse anyone of anything, but I mostly see it in the way they talk about this topic. It really looks like they’re gaslighting to me personally. It seems like they’re trying to get men to do something, even when it’s not something they don’t want to do. I’d also kindly request you to reread what i’ve said: women can afford themselves to be more content single than men, because they simply have more dating options. So they don’t really have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:54 PM
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Even though I genuinely appreciate your perspective and input: 1) How isn’t it supposed to be easy when it’s about fulfilling two of the most fundamental human desires: to sex and romantic love though? Those desires are pretty much present in all heterosexual and romantic people and they form the majority of the world. There are roughly as many women as men in the world - both in the billions - so i’d at least expect everyone to have a decent amount of dating options they can have a pick out. 2)…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:30 PM
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Men have their standards so low that even women that are below their leagues have more dating options and opportunities than they do. So i’d suggest them to see their self worth and raise their standards collectively. They shouldn’t let their libido’s control their behavior. That’s what gives women “power” in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:43 AM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:37 AM
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Definitely 🙏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:14 PM
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I don’t believe in that though because my love is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:17 PM
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But women are the cause of this whole problem along with men giving even the most mediocre ones options though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:36 PM
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If what you’re saying is true, what’s the point of their love? If it’s fake anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:04 PM
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There are roughly as many women as men. It is a huge issue. It does affect mental health negatively because it is structural inequality in a fundamental aspect of life. No one should be lonely when they don’t want to. Everyone deserves social contacts and romantic relationships, aka love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:52 PM
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But it’s really not in the way you’d think. I’m absolutely not one of those men that’s solely interested in sex. Like, you can take my word on that maam. I was talking about “attractive” in the romantic sense. It’s about liking the woman for who she is. I’m barely superficial. For me personally real attraction happens towards what makes that particular woman unique. It’s hard to explain, but it is a combination of all sorts of things. And one important factor is feeling a connection with her. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:59 AM
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That’s genuinely concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:31 PM
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Upvoted. You’ve offered me some great insights and i really appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:15 AM
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Thank you for this insightful answer ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:02 AM
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But does it affect women that much though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:39 AM
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Yet scientists acknowledge that men get more options with age, which isn’t surprising because if so many men struggle at young age with as many women as men in the world, then there must be a turning point, because human beings aren’t supposed to be single. Sperm quality can be preserved through lifestyle choices and there are no guarantees that it’ll have negative effects on the child’s health, though i definitely understand your way of thinking. Lastly, there are signals indeed. For instance, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:54 AM
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I don’t hate women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 07:45 AM
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I am good looking. I do have eyes, a mirror and a camera. Yet, where are my options? And there are definitely “uglier” women than me out there. And since when do looks matter in men? Like I told someone else, it doesn’t have any evolutionary advantage. Men remain fertile their whole life’s and looks don’t reflect genetic quality. If they did matter, men would be putting as much effort into it as women do, but we don’t because we actually know it doesn’t bring us anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:00 AM
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So it’s about benefits for you? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:51 PM
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I’m talking about romance. Why do women that are uglier than me have more dating options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:28 PM
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No man is undesirable though. I am undesirable to some women. That doesn’t mean that other women don’t desire me though. And in the hypothetical scenario that they did exist, undesirable women would exist too. Y’all aren’t holy. Biologically speaking your value only comes from being the ones that carry a child made out of your own and a man’s DNA. In the hypothetical context that really only the “best genes” would matter, women with bad gene quality would be as useless as those men. And consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:10 PM
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Communication and social skills can be influenced. But the fundaments of the lack of those skills can’t be taken away. Neurodivergent people exist. Income and educational level significantly depend on a quality you cannot change; your intelligence. I can’t follow a level of education that is higher than my IQ can afford. This applies to everyone and directly affects your career prospects and therefore income. I’ll probably never be an AI scientist. Height and looks can be quite controlled, but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:57 PM
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But they’re not a part of you that matters, because you can’t control those qualities in an acceptable way. Also, if what you were saying was true, than why do women that are “uglier” (hate to say that) than me have more dating options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:44 PM
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They certainly would if the love were real.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:34 PM
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They should be loved for their inner self. For their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:33 PM
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Everything is wrong with love being conditional. If it’s conditional in the superficial sense, you’re basically being used. You’re not loved and valued for you, but for what you have. Things that you don’t have any control over anyway. The difference is that men aren’t that shallow though. If men were as shallow as (many) women are, the average young woman wouldn’t have more dating options than we do, no matter how mediocre she is. No matter how much make-up she has to use to “catch on”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:28 PM
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Nothing justifies superficial conditions to love. You still loved them conditionally before really “loving” them in that hypothetical scenario. Like what you’re basically saying is that you’d only date men with features that they cannot control without fillers (as if you complot with your own standard; I doubt that as the average female face isn’t symmetrical) and only THEN look into their personality and who they are with years that pass by. That’s not how love should start at all. Men should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:26 PM
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It doesn’t make sense that appearance plays a big role in men though. What evolutionary advantage does it have? Men remain fertile their whole life’s under normal circumstances and your appearance doesn’t reflect your gene quality very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:02 PM
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Love should NOT be conditional in the superifcial sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:00 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:07 AM
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But they don’t represent all men. Why do all of us have to suffer because of this? 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:38 AM
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Bullshit. You deserve a partner bro. I’m really curious how you’re still single at 40. That’s exceptional. But don’t worry, there are more men that do marry after that age. So unless it’s voluntarily, you shouldn’t worry man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:16 PM
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I didn’t mean it that way 🤦🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:26 PM
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It is possible to change though, because no man is intrinsically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:58 PM
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Someone that I feel chemistry with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:09 AM
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But why shouldn’t we make the rights more even? With all respect to human autonomy, the rights of others shouldn’t hinder you in fulfilling your own rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:06 AM
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Well, that’s in countries we don’t have to worry about. But in most western countries I know, there are either more women or as many women as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:03 AM
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This doesn’t make sense as no man is intrinsically unattractive biologically speaking. They all possess attractiveness, just like women do when they are young. Yet men still struggle more. There’s something going on here. And no, I definitely don’t partner up any woman. I only partner up those that i feel a chemistry with. It’s not about not being single, it’s about craving romantic connection. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:21 PM
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Doesn’t mean I have to accept that unfairness in a world with as many women as men. There should definitely be multiple attractive women out there for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:48 PM
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Men don’t want it more than women. Like I said, the inequality in dating is why men approach women. They are FORCED to in order to secure a relationship. I certainly don’t like to approach, but when my options are limited, I have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:35 PM
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True haha. It’s insane how many men actually believe this. I pity them. The Tate way of thinking isn’t the best way. It only destroys hope. Definitely. The more social opportunities are created, the better. It creates an evironment in which both platonic and romantic relationships can start. Of course, there are no guarantees, but at least it gives you better chances, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:39 PM
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I’ve never believed that argument to be fair. It’s based on data collected by a DATING site with an inequal gender ratio. It’s not an academic study that actually represents the population of women, which is way too big. And it is contradicted by other studies. Biologically speaking, it doesn’t make sense for women to only pursue the top men. First of all, most women are average. They are way below the leagues of those men. Secondly, it is hardwired into human beings to want a partner that’s sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:25 PM
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Most women wanting top men doesn’t make sense. They have to be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:13 PM
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I don’t believe them. I’ve caught plenty of them gaslighting people into believing that they are happy. If they were genuinely happy, they wouldn’t feel the need to convince others. It really depends on the options and opportunities they have as romance and sex are two fundamental needs that are hardwired into the biology of human beings. The desire for those important things doesn’t just go away entitirely. Just like being thirsty and hungry keep reappearing, this desire does too and it is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:26 PM
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Thank you. Beautifully written and i agree. I really appreciate your input and advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:11 PM
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By being myself right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:35 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:15 PM
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Both. I see them hindering men through two ways; through deliberately staying single themselves and through keeping other women single. Like the amount of gaslighting i’ve seen women online do (even female AUTHORS and “scientists” (misusing their authority perhaps?)) to convince other women of how “great” single life is, is insane. I’ve literally seen women being dedicated to convincing other women of that. I don’t know why exactly, but i do think there’s a divisive agenda behind it. I’ve also s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:11 PM
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This doesn’t align with reality, so i don’t have to answer this seriously. But in this hypothetical scenario, creating more dating opportunities for men should help. Men need more platforms than just dating apps, school, college and work where they can meet their partner. That’s my proposal. Simple as that. I don’t believe any man is intrinsically unattractive. As someone who is into biology, I know that all men posess a level of attractiveness. But it depends on their opportunities whether they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:05 PM
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Well that’s about sex. Not romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:37 PM
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Bro WHAT? It’s not about forcing. It’s about fairness and equality. There are BILLIONS of women in this world. There are roughly as many women as men in this world. I’ve never ever noticed ANY shortage of them wherever i go. Yet I and so many other men apparently structurally have to struggle. It makes me so mad if i get to think about it. I meet so many of them daily, yet I haven’t noticed ANY of them being attracted to me in a long while? Really shows the huge issues we face. I’m already intro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:27 PM
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It is also problematic when people that don’t want to pair up (probabiy because they can afford themselves to not want that; they tend to be privileged in dating after all and don’t have to stress it 😒) hinder and indirectly limit those that do want to fulfill this fundamental desire, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:47 PM
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We adress this by acknowledging that women are the problem and the root of this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:17 PM
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Give men more platforms to meet women for romantic purposes perhaps? I mean, nowadays there are BARELY any places or consistent methods that men can go to or use to meet their partner. It’s all based on coincidence. And that genuinely sucks. Because I don’t want to be dependent on being coincidentally picked by a woman. I want to be able to get a partner, when I’m ready for one. I’ve had multiple women interested in my life, but nowadays I don’t notice any woman attracted to me. The coincidental…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:11 PM
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That’s not what i’ve imagined my life to be. I want a partner, not a maid. Why’d I let a woman that I genuinely love do everything for me? I wouldn’t want that. That’s hurt to see. In fact, i’d want to make her life as easy as possible and shower her with love if it’s reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:07 PM
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There are BILLIONS of women in the world. Roughly as many women as men. There is a woman for EVERY man. With such an abundance, men should have plenty of options, but apparently we don’t until we are older. And I just don’t understand why men struggle. Because biologically speaking all men have attractiveness. No man is intrinsically unattractive. What the hell is going on. It’s almost like women are way too advantaged in dating when they are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:05 PM
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We just have to create more opportunities man. Nowadays there are barely any places where you have the opportunity to meet a partner or friends (for example) as an adult aside of college, school and perhaps work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:59 PM
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Fair enough, man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:57 PM
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Come on. Of course not. I just want women to have more realistic expectations. It’s unfair that Some men are single simply because they lack in something they cannot control at all. Love isn’t supposed to be about what a man has. It’s supposed to be about who he is. If love is conditional, that mean’s y’all are just using men. And yet y’all are surprised misogyny exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:51 PM
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Doesn’t mean that you should be silent about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:49 PM
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I really don’t agree with this. Two genders exist for a reason. We aren’t supposed to be single when we don’t want to. That’s PLAIN UNFAIRNESS and really affects mental health negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:48 PM
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I want a PARTNER. Someone that complements me. Someone that I can love. Someone that I can make great memories and start a family of my own with. I don’t care about the status that other people might assign. I am happy with my partner, because i’d love her. Not because of what society thinks of me. Male loneliness is a huge problem. And it MUST be adressed. I see so many things in which men are structurally disadvantaged in society. That’s why you hear about lonely men more often than about lone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:46 PM
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Women like you show why the patriarchy is nothinf more than a myth created by feminists in order to manipulate btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:42 PM
1

They are biological needs actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:41 PM
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I am entitled to love with someone of the gender made for my gender. Many women are literally deliberately staying single to “hurt” men. Because I don’t see why they’d stay single, while it’s a fundamental human need and desire. The reason they can stay single easier exactly shows this inequality which is a huge issue. It’s because they have more opportunities and options, so they don’t have to actively look for it and can be more content single because they know that they can have a claim on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:40 PM
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I’m sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:36 PM
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Creating more opportunities and options for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:01 PM
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Why are you generalizing all men? I see women as equals and just want love. Simple as that. I have no issue with women staying single, as long as it doesn’t affect my own dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:01 PM
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He isn’t empathetic because women aren’t empathetic to this fundamental issue men face. It literally does affect fundamental human needs and desires. So it is serious. Thankfully pretty much all men end up married. But getting there is still more difficult for men than for women. That’s PLAIN unfairness that absolutely needs to be adressed. But feminists dont’t really seem to care about genuine equality from what i’ve observed. They only care about equality that advantages them from my perceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:00 PM
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Well, we are entitled to love regarldess. No one can change that view for me. I don’t see why anyone should be single while they don’t want to. Dating has to be fair for men. In a world with as many women as men, men should have as many dating opportunities and options as women do. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:57 PM
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I and so many men I know do. We all want shit to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:55 PM
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Dating just has to be fair for men. We deserve as many dating opportunities and options as women do. That’s real equality. Men deserve a partner and family of their own, just like women do. Romantic relationships can’t be compared to more general relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:55 PM
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It is actually not fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:54 PM
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