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His wife was bitching at him because she wanted him to lead in those situations. He was letting all household decisions go to her, he wasn't explaining his vision to her, and he was not making the calls to support those decisions. It was on him and he did something about it. Not everything a wife does is a shit test, sometimes the men just fuck up.
/r/askMRP31/08/16 11:54 AM
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It's not a test- and yes you are a huge pussy mcfaggot. First-when you are not leaving the house because she is being shitty, then there is nothing wrong with not giving her details. You are applying dread. That doesn't seem to be the case here. You are not telling her where you are going because you want to avoid confrontation. This is bitch made. Your frame is so weak you are avoiding giving details so your wife doesn't have the opportunity to dominate you. Your first mate can know details of …
/r/askMRP28/08/16 01:11 PM
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I'm the wrong one to comment on anything "Reddit" in that I'm a novice at best. However, the sidebar is predominately books, read them however you want- whether it be kindle, hard text, etc.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/08/16 03:33 AM
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I dont care what women think and they do not decide what is geeky or not. I decide my reality and move them into it.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/08/16 11:17 PM
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nice breakdown here
/r/askMRP26/08/16 02:20 PM
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I do the same thing with my son. I also wrote down activities/outings for each family member and any necessary supplies etc. I would need for those outings. When I get the "what do you want to do tonight?" I can rattle that list off. When I've knocked shit out around the house, I grab a kid and knock out something on the list. Just an idea. Remember- there is no problem you cannot handle as captain. Your vision will need some work down the road- and thats ok. You are going to largely accomplish …
/r/askMRP26/08/16 12:23 PM
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Good FR. Keep lifting. Keep nofap going- that shit will rot your balls. Keep going on physical. What about leading your family? Good job knocking out some things around the house and taking the initiative on entertainment planning. Tell me about your vision? Dont ever forget this process has little to do with your wife and everything to do with you.
/r/askMRP25/08/16 06:15 PM
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Sometimes things are as they seem- It's a comfort test in my eyes. Plus, she's your wife- tell her you love her. You are making changes, gone a couple nights a week, etc, etc. I don't think it's that big a deal to reassure her you are still in this thing with her (as long as she pulls her weight). Plus, make sure you aren't projecting some residual anger from the anger stage. Women are women, there isn't some grand conspiracy. They don't realize what they do, it isn't intentional. They just reac…
/r/askMRP25/08/16 01:01 PM
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Was gonna post similar- but you said it better.
/r/askMRP25/08/16 12:33 PM
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Give me some more details. How long have you been reading? What have you read? How old are your sons (congrats on their validation) How long have you been lifting, height, weight? How hot is your wife? What is the overall status of your marriage? How'd you end up here? Also- one of your comments below "my wife is incredibly prudish so I don't expect miracles from her." Your wife is no prude- she is a prude right now, for you. As you progress on this journey, she will blow your mind.
/r/askMRP25/08/16 11:40 AM
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Shitty post, it should be moved to askmrp. Second- in no way does sleeping with another woman, or any of this shit address the fact that your wife was taking dick from another man for a year. In the long run, your wife would resent you for sleeping with another woman. As far as you seeking approval for your behavior from a message board- it's pretty obvious you haven't put in the work. No shortcuts, get to work.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/08/16 09:26 AM
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I have the weirdest boner right now. Good post- "failure pays you." excellent
/r/MarriedRedPill24/08/16 09:47 PM
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This is strong- very strong- I always like a filter that I can apply to a questionable situation. That is exactly what this post entails. Before I do this, is it attractive- would I do this for a new lover/high value mate? etc. Thanks for taking the time- I will use this.
/r/askMRP24/08/16 04:49 PM
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I posted something similar about a month ago- about the progression we all roll through on this journey. Interesting process to watch unfold.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/08/16 11:52 PM
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you answered your own question. Be patient, it is coming. Second- you set the tone dip shit. Family Alpha had a few posts on releasing your wife's inner slut. MRP has on by Rex right now on sex toys. If you are the leader and your wife follows you- then who's fault is it when sex is a little boring? step up your game, stop waiting for her to do it.
/r/askMRP23/08/16 11:42 PM
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You can absolutely keep being goofy. The whole point of MRP is to be attractive. Don't be unattractive. My problem swings the other way- I can make those around me laugh, except I'll get too caught up in my own shit, be way too intense and forget others are intimidated by that intensity. Having fun and laughing is attractive. The in shape guy who handles his shit and is a blast to be around- thats the guy your wife wants to fuck. If she doesn't- other women will be lining up to do so...
/r/askMRP19/08/16 12:52 PM
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Bromelain...fuck the carbs/sugar that comes with pineapple...
/r/askMRP04/08/16 01:25 PM
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I thought you did pretty decent. This seemed like are still setting the tone that you are changing. If you feel like you are wanting to engage in arguments just to win them, realize that is not your ultimate goal long term. So the thing about Kevin is a shit test and you did great in nuking that. Pure Shit test. Your dread is working in that it is making her nervous but not resulting in sex. This is your main sign you are too heavy handed with it. Here's my take- this was a lot of comfort testin…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/08/16 12:30 PM
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Dat hook is so shiny, I think I can resist.
/r/askMRP02/08/16 11:40 PM
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Good Luck, condolences from a random internet stranger. First- just grieve, it will suck for awhile. Second- If everything is black and white, we wouldn't need MRP. You are seeing things clearly. You recognize your wife's faults. You also loved her. You can do both and still be of value. Take your time. Your validation can now come from within. You do not need other people's validation because you are strong enough to call yourself on your bullshit. Did you do a bad ass memorial? You know if you…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/07/16 12:28 PM
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I found value in the post. I get where some of these guys are coming from- but if there's an argument about it then it is relevant. Secondly- For me it would be all about validation. I do not cheat, but when I think about cheating it is never because my wife doesn't keep me satisfied. It is for the thrill of the hunt and whether I will be validated at the end of the night. In my case, it would be about weakness internally. Not saying the same for anyone else.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/07/16 03:39 PM
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"My point, I can fuck whatever taco I set my cock to. But I got other fucking things to accomplish. And if my taco joint wants to put that to the test then I'll systematically screw every taco hut chick right on top of her god damned cart." I came. Anyone have a smoke?
/r/MarriedRedPill28/07/16 12:21 PM
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The amount of time you did this introspection is impressive. Congrats on the frame flip. Let me push two notions at you: 1.) You never reach the top of your game. Stay hungry. 2.) Don't kill your vulnerability. Don't be scared to rush hard into your own emotions- just be a man about it. She is/was giving everything you wanted and you were happy with your relationship. YOUR error flowed from your own insecurity. She was basically so awesome you wanted to be with her more. (This is great since she…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/07/16 06:26 PM
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You're on your game.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/07/16 06:05 PM
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I don't know why, this post is cracking me up. Sounds very hot- but she was weird. Women can be fucking weird.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/07/16 12:37 PM
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What Persaeus is trying to tell you, but you are somehow missing it is this: Do not let anyone shame you for your sexuality. If she were to try to shame you then laugh at her. Take it a step further- she is such a fucking shrew that she has to act like she is unconsciously gives out hand jobs while asleep. Your wife is wound so tight she cannot face rejection by openly sucking your dick, she has to hide it behind the premise of a sleeping old fashioned. She has to act like it is "unconscious" an…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/07/16 12:23 PM
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You're a better man than me. This post took a lot of effort. If the OP doesn't come back and comment- should be said, it was detailed and on point.
/r/askMRP26/07/16 11:25 PM
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That's a good point- Chlomite- why is your woman so damn thirsty? Maybe you can help, give her something to drink for a couple days.. It's rough being a natural eastern european that's shredded with a cool accent 24/7. I need a break
/r/askMRP26/07/16 08:28 PM
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Yea you right, If I just stop talking to her, she'll just chase a little harder. Look, the best I can do is talk about my feelings all day for one day. I've got a reputation to uphold here. Other than that, you are on you own, how it's always been.
/r/askMRP26/07/16 07:47 PM
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I apologize man, I can't do much about the height or accent, but I'll back off your woman for you. There are plenty around to pick from...
/r/askMRP26/07/16 07:15 PM
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This post is nasty. Awesome perspective. I have a buddy that was just pulling the same shit with me on exercise and business. I couldn't conceptualize this exact point as he kept looking for shortcuts. Thanks for putting this up.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/07/16 07:09 PM
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Absolutely get the point and agree wholeheartedly.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/07/16 06:50 PM
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I like the spirit of this post. I could not agree more. My wife has said multiple times "I love that you take risks. You have risked everything we have multiple times, but I love that you believe in something enough to do it." Risks are important on a multitude of levels, no doubt. With that said- You are a fucking idiot. Tie off with a rope, dumb ass. If you can't check your ego enough to admit this was a dumb move, how far have you really come? Is it masculine to strand your family without a p…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/07/16 05:57 PM
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Strong Post
/r/askMRP26/07/16 03:11 PM
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This is a lot of text. Here's my take- Your exercise routine is weak. Lift heavy weights 3-6 times a weak, the other shit is just for your enjoyment. Don't live and die with every event or rejection from your wife. If you have any kind of frame, look internally, you should see you are a man becoming something. When you see it, the rest of the world will begin to see it. If you have realized your wife is not the only woman out there, then take some fucking risks. Don't worry about failing. HAVE F…
/r/askMRP26/07/16 12:33 PM
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I can't, I'm too busy taking notes. Your update is inspiring. So when you were practicing OI trying to put your jeans on to go out "to a bar or wherever" - were the jeans skinny jeans? Did you do that thing where you kind of hop up and down on one foot while pulling them on? Help me out here man, I'm hoping I too can get some duty sex from my wife at some point this month.
/r/askMRP26/07/16 12:33 AM
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I don't have any advice to offer on this topic- but I am curious- the whole point is to get more sex right? (Yea, yea the PIC, music, etc.) But I truly do not understand how you can get a woman to take her shirt off, to make out, and can't close. I mean- if you are going to cheat, doesn't it seem like you should pick someone whom you aren't going to have to convince to fuck you? Isn't this just another version of a wife? And not judging, but be honest, you've got some "new" relationship feelz go…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/07/16 07:09 PM
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Sounds like she is eagerly engaging in sex. She's asking you what you want to do. She is a reflection of you. Become a master practicioner of SGM. Like all things, this really begins and ends with you. You've got to lead her there. As far as which tools to use, doesn't matter, use whatever is effective.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/07/16 07:40 PM
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Congratulations- at this rate you will have sex 12 times a year and on her terms. You are outcome independent but write a 500 word essay because "you don't want to fuck this up." You're so thirsty, when your wife shows you her tits, you think its noteworthy 8 hours later. You're delusional, full of shit, and haven't read any of the sidebar. So far your strategy is "Starvation Dread." "I'm not gonna try to fuck my wife so she hamsters I'm cheating on her. Then she's gonna fuck me. Then....then...…
/r/askMRP22/07/16 10:38 PM
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My questions are rhetorical. That's my fault for being unclear. "Did she or did she behave as I would expect a woman who is under stress? Any woman, high value or not is going to unleash when faced with stress. Everyone's cup gets filled up every now and again....just depends on how deep it is." She did behave poorly. Whether you expect it or not, whether you understand the "why" behind the lash out, does not mean the behavior was not poor. It was shit. I am not judging her or anyone for that re…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 03:52 PM
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well said
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 01:36 PM
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"And that is a bunch of horse shit. The ball buster exists because we allowed it or created it. They aren't just born." Nah- at some point you have to hold people accountable for their actions. You look to your own behavior first. However, sometimes people fuck up. Shitty people do exist and can do shitty things even though you did nothing wrong. You are correct in that you allow it or not. I strive to subdue my ego first when trying to make a decision. More times than not it is on me in that I …
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 01:34 PM
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Yea- I read that then forgot about it when I was posting a reply to TFA. You're right on
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 01:04 PM
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You sure about that? I always value your comments because your view is slightly askew of the primary MRP focus. You are going to look to see what behavior the man needs to change to get the marriage he wants. That is the way to approach problems in this forum. However, isn't this a "you know your wife" situation? I have read some shit about some of the men's wives on here that blows my mind. I truly can't imagine my wife doing or saying some of it. You've said multiple times that your wife is hi…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 12:45 PM
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Good luck on your path- you'll be fine
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/16 03:31 AM
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Thanks for taking the time- much appreciated
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/16 11:20 PM
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You can't dread someone that doesn't give a fuck if you are around. You can't dread someone when you are low value. You know how I know you are low value? Your wife is low value. She was high value and went low value. You admitted she did, you admitted you did. You are the container, she is the water. Admit fault. Make an honest assessment of you situation. Make a plan. Follow it. Here. I'll do it in 3 minutes for you: Honest assessment: There is no easy fix. You have to work hard. Your marriage…
/r/askMRP20/07/16 04:39 PM
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1.) Only your brother can help himself. You can't do anything for an addict. 2.) No one owes you shit. If you want a relationship with them then have one, if you don't cut them out your life. 3.) Go to the wedding. Fuck your step-dad. If you are trying to make your sister choose you or your step-dad, fuck off, the wedding isn't about you. In general- you haven't internalized a whole lot. Most of these questions is basically an "up to you" decision. You are concerned with making "the right decisi…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/16 12:20 PM
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No one here can help you. You're a drunk. Anyone who attempts to help you including your wife is throwing good money after bad. I don't judge you for it. It is a sickness just like anything else. Coming here when you haven't been sober for a hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks is a waste of time. You're not interested in getting better yet. You still have the voice in the back of your head talking about "just a sip so you can handle this red pill shit." You are motivated to get back your wife beca…
/r/askMRP29/06/16 12:09 PM
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In some areas, we are saying the same thing. Without going too deep into the mundane of specifics of how you or I define the word "ego," -ego for me does not directly correlate to confidence. "Irrational Confidence" is a good thing. That is an overwhelming optimism that you will find a way to be successful. Agree wholeheartedly in the importance of extending past your comfort zone, but it doesn't take ego in order to not be scared to fail. It takes confidence that failure doesn't define you as a…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/06/16 07:32 PM
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Boesman 12 has a post on OI right above/below this post that addresses the type of ego I am talking about if you haven't read it. Confidence is absolutely key in all things- not just MRP related topics. However, confidence and ego do not go hand in hand. The confident man's ego never prevents him from seeing a situation for what it is, making a plan, and executing accordingly. Confidence prevents you from feeling threatened. There is no fear of the unknown because you intrinsically understand yo…
/r/MarriedRedPill27/06/16 06:04 PM
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Thank You for the rec- I haven't read the author before, but I'm all over this topic. This is a major topic in my companies right now. The main driving topic as it regards ego is its distortion of reality. The terrible habit of blaming others for your failures, woes, and miseries (we call it the victim card) and how ego prevents you from recognizing this pattern. I'll pick this up tonight and come back with some feedback
/r/MarriedRedPill25/06/16 12:58 AM
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I honestly did not read for details, but I think you just need to revamp your thinking a little bit. Also- when this comes to a head, don't be vindictive. Just blow these shit tests up and go back to leading the family. It is obvious there is a big fucking vacuum in your family's leadership and it is time for you to fill it. Your extended family needs you to take the reigns from your sister, so man up already. A.) You are not responsible for your mother's emotions. I know your ego wants you to b…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/06/16 05:54 PM
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We see eye to eye more times than not.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/06/16 09:47 PM
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She's looking to manipulate you emotionally. It worked. Let's step away from the keyboard for a second and gain some perspective: Right now you are asking internet strangers if it is ok if you leave your house for an hour. Holy Shit Dude, are you a fucking prisoner? We are talking about 60 minutes. This is like taking a long dump. And you are lending credence to her complaint? Grow a pair Nancy. No wonder she doesn't have any friends, she is a needy, manipulative asshole. By the way, that is you…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/06/16 09:22 PM
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I catch shit from my peers because I am hard on my young son. (What they view as hard is teaching him good nutrition, a stern voice, keeping routine regardless of the day of the week, etc.) A couple weeks ago, my wife asked me, "how do you know when to be stern and when to comfort? She feels like I usually make the right decision. I told her ideally, I want to push my son to his limit. I want to be harder on him than his environment will ever be without beating him down. I want him ready to take…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/06/16 06:49 PM
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You've admitted you have a tendency to take on too much at once. Pick one small thing. Whatever you want and master it. Rinse and repeat. You are adding a capability with every small step. You are also much more likely to actually master something by breaking into small steps. You've got the right disposition, you're going to progress quickly. Take it subtle, slow, simple and small steps. The more complex you make this process the more opportunities for failure. For sex topics- Sex God Method is…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/06/16 09:03 PM
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"Wife can have multiple orgasms but pretty much only in one position. Even at my age I could have sex 4 or 5 times a week no problem. No issues with getting it up or stamina. She is repressed sexually. Claims to have no fantasies and doesn’t make a lot of noise during sex. We have had the typical blue pill complaining about sex, covered contract, BS for most of our marriage." I thought this paragraph was telling, specifically- "she is repressed sexually." Is the lack of sex frequency and intensi…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/06/16 11:21 AM
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This is a cool topic. I am in part of the country where prostitution is not a legitimate option. The women aren't attractive. As you move to the larger cities, more relevant options make this option realistic. Here's my issue with prostitution as it relates to our issues here in MRP. It's an excuse to fix the symptom not the illness itself. Instead of either: a.) Becoming more attractive so your wife will fuck you. b.) If your wife still won't fuck you, taking charge of your life and dropping he…
/r/MarriedRedPill02/06/16 12:38 PM
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That's because my narrative is a goddamn mess
/r/MarriedRedPill02/06/16 11:14 AM
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I'm going to try to get to the OP to add more details. I don't want to change the post. The conversation is completely relevant regardless if someone agrees with the method or not. I did not foresee the place of contention being the proposed consequence for if she does not come in line with my vision. In regards to her behavior- she was not getting her share of shit done around the house. The reasons why were numerous. Bottom line is if she doesn't make it a prerogative there will always be a re…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 09:19 PM
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That's correct. That is my failure to mention. Part of my problem is I was giving a future plan if she were to fail to jump aboard. I do not think that is the case at all. She is successful at most things, this will not be any different. I was more stating my contingency plan if the worst case scenario as it relates to this situation happened.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 06:54 PM
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Completely valid point, if I do not connect the dots the the entire effort is wasted. That is what I mean by "being in the open." As far as moving away from leadership by example, in this case, that would not have worked. Here's the thing, at this point we are arguing theory. It will never come to this step. However, if I were to continue the same behaviors and accept the same shitty behavior from her, then that becomes MY fault as leader for not addressing it. You are saying, you have trouble w…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 04:56 PM
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I'm no expert either. Take what you value, leave the rest
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 04:36 PM
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No, my first response is the conversation and getting her buy in to that process. I am already leading by example. The issue is she is falling off a bit. She is not agreeing because of low-self esteem. She is agreeing because she realized she can better hold up her duties. If she slacks for a week and I pick up that slack, that is just working as a team. After multiple weeks, I need to address the behavior. She needs to inform me if I need to do something different, etc. My response to her not d…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 04:35 PM
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Agree, you cannot negotiate desire. However, you can remind a partner who has drifted a bit, why we are doing what we are doing. She is mired in her daily activities, like we are all. She began to prioritize certain things above her family. It is natural, and they are not big issues. However, to be an effective leader, I need to point out what is happening and find a solution.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 04:17 PM
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Excellent point. I did not show it. However, I believe she has seen me follow through to much with cutting people from my life who impede our progress. I do think it would have been more effective to "show it" though. No doubt.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 03:54 PM
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"Your expectations that she needs to carry her weight w.r.t. household chores needs to be set. This is true. However, since when has sitting a woman down and having a clear and concise conversation, where you are able to logically drive her thoughts from thinking she is being attacked to her agreeing with you logically ever worked for any man ever? This seems like a really well thought out and logically designed, RP informed, plan to fail (or at least invite yourself into a shit test)." *I have …
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 03:50 PM
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I see where you are coming from, and I do agree there's a "I'm going to take my ball and go home" feel to it. I'm not looking to punish her behavior. That is not my goal. My goal is the progression of my ship. At that point, my wife would be hurting that goal. Now, I could try to remove her from the team, but there are a couple of issues with that: 1.) I'm not going to bodily remove my wife anywhere. If she says "no" then that line of action is dead. I can control myself though. I know her life …
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 03:44 PM
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Implied removal of my commitment- so this is through our conversation. Essentially, I am saying, If you cannot meet these goals, if I am always carrying your weight, then why do I need you? She received this message. She said "I do not want to lose you." Now I never said I am leaving, I pointed out all the things I do. Then I looked at her and asked, "Do you think any relationship can sustain itself long term when one person shoulders an unbalanced amount of responsibilities and duties?" She ans…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 01:46 PM
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Absolutely agree, in this particular case, both of our focus has been on new business ventures and I allowed household issues to get out of whack. Essentially, my ship is experiencing mission creep. That's on me. Smaller steps would have been much easier than a big course correction. Good advice.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/06/16 01:35 PM
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There seems to be a lot of "her" language in this post. This inability to trust you is her fault right? And you continually validating her emotions has nothing to do with this repetitive cycle either I guess? She is only reflecting your own behaviors back to you. Anytime I read a post like this I think of my own faults and errors in understanding MRP and this journey. When I first began, I thought my woman was at fault. Now I understand you can't blame a rock for being a rock, etc, etc. Your wom…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/05/16 08:56 PM
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There are some good comments so far, I take a different tact that fits my personality. You'll have to decide if it fits you. Honestly, my wife handles her shit, but when I try to picture how I'd handle what you're dealing with, I like to keep it light, display my masculinity, reinforce my dominance and leadership. Seeing said chore isn't done, I'd give her a wolffish grin and approach her slowly building anticipation. If other people are around then I'm picking her up over my shoulder, carrying …
/r/MarriedRedPill07/04/16 11:51 PM
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Sucks your son is having to deal with this, but it is also a very good obstacle for him to have to tackle at this age. For me, this is real simple, and I would drill this home, "him fighting back has nothing to do with winning or losing." When you max out in lifting, are you worried about failing? Naturally if you push your limits correctly, you will find failure. You will bump into rejection, etc. For your son, he cannot be scared to lose the fight. He needs to get in there and just fight. He n…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/04/16 09:02 PM
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This is a strong FR due to its detailed nature and your internal dialogue. Your humility is serving you well. I learned a lot in your summation. This game doesn't come naturally to most. This FR illustrates why this is such a bitter pill. Most of the strategies go against so many of the natural (bad) beta habits we develop over time. Keep leading your family, the rest is on its way.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/03/16 12:39 AM
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You are in her frame as J_Incognito said. What's wrong with being affectionate when you want sex? Why isn't she trying to earn your affection? She obviously is not attracted to you. This is not a her problem, this is a you problem. If she doesn't respond like you want once you are the prize, you will have a shit load of hot women from which to choose. This is a pretty simple formula. Get to work. Stop talking about your feelings, they aren't relevant. It is your job to cope with them. You missed…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/03/16 06:03 PM
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Strong, conscise message
/r/MarriedRedPill18/03/16 10:27 AM
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Apologies for my delayed response to your answer- reality called. Here's where I take issue with everyone trying to classify a behavior- we start trying to categorize someone's actions- we end up projecting our own inadequacies, intentions onto them. From outside looking in- this seems like passive aggressive bull shit. "You held out on me for years, now I'm supposed to be into you, etc- we'll fuck you" now that might fall into a phase, but when people say "anger phase" it is lessening your role…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/03/16 02:44 AM
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A couple questions that you didn't mention in your OP- is your wife physically attractive? Is her SMV at your level? Second- is there a woman in your social circle or at work that is recently coming on to you?
/r/MarriedRedPill16/03/16 12:40 PM
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Jeez- I need to log off, this is the second time today I skipped a crucial detail- I'll edit the original reply.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/16 11:29 PM
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Christ man- to each his own, but I have to say, I'd have no problem going down this road. Caveman sex is the shit. It's awesome, but if my wife wants to go dominant, tie me up, and do dirty shit to me- I'm gonna let her. I've fucked up plenty in the sex area before, there are plenty examples in my post history to prove it. However, it is never gonna be about an objection to trying new shit. Fuck your wife. If she wants to put it on you some nights, I suggest you lay back and let her wear herself…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/16 10:53 PM
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You are correct. I did not pay close enough attention to this section of the post. I summarized it in my mind as he hugged her, slapped her on the ass, sent her on her way type exchange. It wasn't, there was much more "that'll never happen", and too much talking. Less talking and keep it short. This was a lazy response on my part.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/16 10:44 PM
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She's right-you look like a drunk captain. Own your shit- if you are building a culture of her respecting you by asking, not telling- you should do the same for her. Ultimately, it is small thing and just move past it, but know that if you are going to lead then you have to do it consistently, through behavior as well as words. You handled the comfort test from the dream well. The phone call thing was dumb, and she just wanted you to either tell her to go ahead or to not get involved- she was lo…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/16 05:44 PM
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Extreme ownership was excellent. In the process of enfolding the lessons into my company's culture. Read it from your recommendation- thank you.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/16 05:37 PM
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Bare with me here- I'm on mobile. Essentially, I used a reverse pyramid schematic. Start with general philosophies. -women love differently than men. -hypergamy -how we as men unwittingly alter our behavior to please when in effect we are lowering our status in the eyes of our mate -why it's on us to lead -captain/first mate model After explaining these in detail, as well as explaining the ideal of becoming a high value man, I started with specific posts, techniques (AM, Agree and Amplify, foggi…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/02/16 05:24 PM
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Signed into my account to up vote this post. Nothing ultra revalatory, but it's simple, concise, and completely relevant.
/r/MarriedRedPill16/02/16 12:01 PM
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Alright, so reading your response, it sounds like things are going pretty good. You've only been at this 4 months, let some time go by, you've been checked in and out of the marriage for 264 months, these last 4 aren't going to convince her. I think, but am not certain, ultimate cad said in a different FR "you're only worth to a woman what you've earned." With that in mind, you've got a little longer till she buys into this you being the real you. Here's a frame reminder for you- you need to wel…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/16 04:42 AM
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There's a lot of good information here. You're going to have to run some of my response through a filter, because even with the detailed information you are providing, I'm still taking some liberties in guessing your personality, relaitionship with your wife, etc. Naturally, if I'm off base with some assumptions then the response won't be relevant. So based on your post- you're an introvert with an engineering background. I imagine you're a pretty intense individual. You might find you have trou…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/16 01:57 AM
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Let me see how this plays out. It's too soon for the post to work as a FR, because I'm not sure how it will resolve. Thanks for the feedback in general. I'll update when I think it's ran it's course and I can contribute a conclusion and analysis.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/12/15 04:13 PM
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1.) yes- and continually getting better. Plenty of comments from those around me. 2.) Yes 3.) It's not being an oak, and that was my question. Yes, I wanted to help, but wasn't sure if I'd be undoing any progress that had been made over the last day. (If any) I freely admit I could have hurt my goals more than helped them. Hence, the original post. "not berating you for not helping."- No one is going to berate me in the home I built, that's crazy. Secondly, I still handled my shit, I just didn't…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/12/15 03:46 PM
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"Men get nothing from women they haven't earned." - concise, well said.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/12/15 02:22 AM
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Congrats on owning your shit. What really jumped out to me from this story is your wife got turned on by proxy of her friend's feelz. A woman who isn't dramatic, or overly emotional by nature was turned on by an emotionally charged event, one I think most men wouldn't even note. Like you said, stop making the event about yourself, your kid will be fine, etc.. Anyone doubting the value of understanding the impact of emotions on a woman's behavior needs to read this FR.
/r/MarriedRedPill11/12/15 06:22 AM
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BPP- how's it been on the home front since the last exchange you made a post about with Mrs. BPP?
/r/MarriedRedPill02/12/15 11:33 PM
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Yup, you nailed it.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/12/15 05:52 PM
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You're probably right about it starting before and intensifying over the time she was in the company. Completely valid observation. Good advice- Thanks. To Rasalom- (great author, btw) yea, I recognize it's natural. I didn't like how susceptible I was to her influence. Sure feels like an orbiter type of situation, right? Now I don't do any of the behaviors we usually see associated with that dynamic. What I did learn is I certainly don't like someone else having an influence on my behaviors. You…
/r/MarriedRedPill02/12/15 05:33 PM
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You've got a big covert contract going here. I've made the same exact mistake. You probably feel like you shouldn't have to lead in the small details of the bedroom. Wrong. You're bitching because your wife's girl game isn't automatic. Your game wasn't automatic. It basically comes out of a ready made packet from MRP. Why do you expect her to be automatic? Guide her to a resource. Invest in her. Lead the way, she'll become more natural over time. "She doesn't moan" "She doesn't show emotion." yo…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/08/15 12:03 PM
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I cut my wife'should pajama pants. It turned it into a fun joke. The MIL asked about it, I told her she made a hot daughter and I was tires of not being able to appreciate her hard work. Wife still wears the cut pants every now and again to get a laugh. I made sure to focus on her hotness and kept it light. I didn't want it to be about me being controlling and more about her hiding her attractive side.
/r/MarriedRedPill07/08/15 01:53 AM
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Judging from some of your comments and what I can grasp via a message board- I'd bet your wife is your best friend. You seemed amped up and thirsty. If you are already rehearsing the convo in your head where you tell her how you're changing, blah blah. Stop that. Don't discuss the changes with her. This is your journey. She will choose to follow. Women are better than men at this shit. She's been in training since she was born. When she notices changes, she'll test you to see if the changes are …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/08/15 03:18 AM
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You know how I can tell you're not there yet, "what more do I need to do". That question is filled with problems as it relates to MRP. What more do I need to do? Insert the rest of the question here. -to please my wife? Why are you seeking your wife's approval? MRP doesn't work like that. -to overcome my beta upbringing? Male hamster at work here. This is an excuse. Your past certainly influences your behavior as an adult, but you've taken the pill. The fact that you know this about your upbring…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/08/15 02:02 AM
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I think she did some snooping and found some browser history or something that brought her to this sub. Why would she call you ask what you've been reading? Then ask again? Then tell you,"you're so controlling" especially when you left on good terms that morning. Doesn't add up. Think about that first and plan accordingly. It seems like she was testing your frame from jump street. The funniest part is she says I'll leave you and when you say that may happen, she responds with "you'd really leave…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/07/15 11:04 PM
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I didn't go into full detail in my post, to use a phrase I saw earlier, it was a starfish post on my part. This seems like the case of pushing too much to fast. And there's no small behaviors like this that you can really enforce. This post relates back to the chess board post recently, don't paint yourself into a corner over small shit, etc.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/07/15 02:33 AM
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What you did wasn't abuse, her reaction was pure shit test. But I do think you fucked up by lecturing on food. You can't control what she eats. Lead by example, hope she follows. She will. Who cares if she ate a spoon of peanut butter. Especially when you're in the process of getting laid, you could have burnt those calories off her.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/07/15 02:08 AM
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I like the post, and do agree with the heart of what you are saying. Training the Brain is correct too, in that you can very quickly change the wife's thinking on the topic with some well placed dread. You're right in that the institution or act of marriage inherently bestows some power to the wife. That power is given by societal norms and to an extent the legal sense. However, what training the brain is getting at, and I believe he is correct, is that those same societal norms and legal system…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/07/15 03:31 PM
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I have to be careful what I say here, I am uber leveraged in terms of debt. Now I have no real personal debt. I do not carry credit any credit card debt. Vehicles are all but paid for. I probably have maybe 60% loan to value on my home. What I do have debt for is risks. When it comes to business, I tend to take big risks. At my stage of business development, I would not be able to do without debt. With that disclaimer out the way, I think you should treat this as any other shit test. Is your wif…
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/15 06:52 PM
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Good content, thanks for adding some specifics to the post.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/07/15 01:06 AM
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"Good thing your wife isn't your mission" -a lot of red pill philosophy could be summarized in that statement.
/r/MarriedRedPill21/07/15 12:08 AM
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Look, when it comes to a legal debate or legal terminology, I'm way outta my league. I think you know what I was saying. Also, if I bought land and didn't do my due diligence, that's on me. I'd be forced to deal with those ramifications. Buyer beware. Which is very much my outlook on marriage. I understood there was an expectation of monogamy for both parties. That expectation has been met by both parties. There's no hamstering here. For me, it is absolutely a matter or morality. Holding to your…
/r/MarriedRedPill21/07/15 12:03 AM
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I hear you, and I'm not implying anything by your renegotiating your contract. As for you not liking "I gave my word" or considering it grandstanding, we can agree to disagree. You and your wife have something that works for you. Awesome. In no way, shape or form is my wife willing to agree to something of this nature. Further, I fully understood this section of my marriage agreement. There was no ambivalence to our agreement when it came to monogamy. This part of our contract wasn't made in bad…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 10:03 PM
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I fully appreciate where you are coming from, and admit awalt- but I also can't label her for a behavior she hasn't illustrated yet. I'd rather hope for the best but prepare for the worst. For me, that's what MRP is all about. She may be hypergamous by nature but why would she go out for a burger when she's got a steak at home? If you need another answer- at the end of the day it doesn't matter what her nature is, I gave my word. In hindsight, would I go down the marriage road again, maybe not, …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 09:29 PM
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Lol- this was good. I agree, monogamy isn't a requirement for some marriages. I'm not comfortable sharing my wife. I expect her to be monogamous. I can't ask her to be monogamous when I'm not. If you're comfortable with non-monogamy, I'm not judging, knock yourself out, actually come back and tell me the stories, I'll live vicariously through them. But I gave my word to be monogamous, I'll hold to it. Not delusion on this end so much as it is the choice I made, and now I will see it through.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 08:52 PM
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strong post.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 06:32 PM
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I don't know about your other points, because your second point jumped out to me. I'm really not able to focus on anything else. I would never let anyone bitch at me in my own home. It's one thing if you made an error in your housework and she points it out. But bottom line, the second that tone goes from a suggestion to a scold, demand, anything other than a respectful request for a change in behavior, you can get the fuck out of my house. Some might disagree with me, it might be considered bre…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 06:05 PM
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UEMcGill nailed it. Your post seems like you were seeking to avoid confrontation. You are hoping the list dictates who has which responsibilities. You have much more power than a list ever will. Address the issues at hand and move on.
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 04:15 PM
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I tell you what I think- Where the hell are my old man's letters telling me marriage is a losing proposition for a man? I think it is a succinct description of marriage in modernity. And I thought this line: No man, however truly he loved his betrothed and bride as a young man, has lived faithful to her as a wife in mind and body without deliberate conscious exercise of the will, without self-denial. speaks volumes. To take it a step further, I think we often times tie a covert contract to this …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 02:39 PM
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I guess the best way to say it is if I had a wife that wanted to be a SAHM great, but I don't. She does cook, keep the house, etc. I'm the primary income provider, handle the repairs on the house etc. But she doesn't embrace staying home with the kids. She tried it early on and it wasn't for her. I don't hold it against her, I wouldn't last a week. So our roles are largely traditional outside of the fact that she works. Make sense?
/r/MarriedRedPill20/07/15 03:19 AM
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Here you go take it for what it's worth: if I were in your shoes I'd view her taking the initiative to take the GRE as she is serious. You wanting to start a family and her wanting to be a PA are not mutually exclusive. Actually she can absolutely start her process while she's pregnant. If you do it right, she can have her baby between semesters. If I were you I'd draw up a detailed agreement. The agreement should center on what her duties are towards the home front while going through school. T…
/r/MarriedRedPill18/07/15 10:00 PM
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You have kids, if so how old are they? What's your average work week look like? Just an FYI, before you answer, I don't necessarily agree with you or your stance. But I'm also not going to give my opinion without all the information.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/07/15 07:29 PM
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Some of what I gain from MRP is a validation of what I already thought but couldn't express or find a like minded individual in my day to day life to discuss it with. I also like the self improvement aspect. There's also plenty of facets to my marriage that can be improved upon even though I rarely see shit tests from my wife.
/r/MarriedRedPill18/07/15 03:47 AM
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Look, I have a little different outlook on employment than other people. I've got two degrees. I'm the owner and president of three different companies, one in the medical field, and 2 companies with multiple locations in the home construction sector. If my companies ever collapsed I would pursue two avenues. First and foremost, the amount of money I pay my blue collar sub contractors is staggering. I know I could work in those trades making over 185k a year and working no more than 45 hours a w…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/15 10:53 PM
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Anytime she remotely bends over I make a fart noise. Every night I take off my socks I throw them at her-it's been known to start a wrestling match which leads to a naked wrestling match. If I get up first, I start her vehicle, crank the music as high as it'll go, then turn the vehicle off. I'll also push her seat as far up as it'll go. If I make her a sandwich I always take a bite. I purposely misuse "that's what she said." Wife: you have any clothes to throw in the washer? Me: "that's what she…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/07/15 12:57 AM
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Funny you bring that up, by all accounts, my wife should be a pain in the ass. Her father was around through her adolescence until he got caught in an affair. He leaves the family and marries the mistress. He is largely estranged from my wife outside of major holidays. However, her grandparents had a large hand in her upbringing and we all know that generation was much more redpill prone than future generations. Both male and female. So maybe their presence had a large hand in how she views rela…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/15 06:09 PM
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Frequency is on me, if I initiate she is definitely game. I think MRP illustrates the necessity of initiation in a seductive manner. I came to MRP to better myself and I certainly have areas I can continue to improve, the biggest of which was (I've made huge leaps in this area) covert contracts with my employees and occasionally with my friends/family. I've got that kicked now. I've always enjoyed leading those around me. I don't experience the same issues many men do with their wives. The numbe…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/15 03:33 PM
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Sex life is great. She is always down to experiment. Frequency is where it needs to be. I can't complain about that department. You picked up on my concern. I'm wondering if the lack of shit tests was an indicator of loss of interest, but other signs say she is very engaged and not on the hunt. I have plenty of areas I can improve as a captain. As a first mate she does appear to be carrying her load.
/r/MarriedRedPill15/07/15 02:15 PM
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Your replies all imply that people don't understand your post, question or implying a hidden alternative. There is no magic checklist. Fucking AWALT. You can hope to mitigate potential damage as much as possible, and you are already doing that, but at it's most base description, marriage is a losing proposition for men. This coming from a successfully married guy. Take it for what it's worth. MRP is based on acknowledging the fact that the deck is stacked against you. Asking this group to do any…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/07/15 12:41 AM
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Truchisoft nailed it, behavior is the important message. You did miss a chance to agree and amplify with the "only for sex" comment. Something like, "that's not true, I like the way you make the bed after.." Also, even if it is a trap. Don't even sweat it. You're ready for it. You can handle it. You're not concerned when she gets upset over bullshit, you're not responsible for her feelings, especially when it's over being too grab assy. You're a man, she's a woman. You're supposed to try to fuck…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/15 02:51 PM
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I see a lot of ball busting on this subreddit. Whether it involve some guy not reading enough side bar material or not internalizing the pill, whatever it may be, I'm kinda stumped why no one has torn into this post. Who gives a shit about your wife making a big deal about an unattainable movie star? A few people have mentioned you were too reactive to the situation instead of taking control from jump street, of which I agree. However, it is deeper than that- why do you give a shit about your wi…
/r/MarriedRedPill11/07/15 04:17 PM
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Jesus, that link gave me AIDS. Hard to imagine someone putting up with that nut case.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/07/15 03:54 PM
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On dressing better- find an interim wardrobe. Don't try to recreate the wheel here. Simple is better to start. Whatever you buy now will not fit in 6 months, so buy for a short period of time. Here's the essentials: A dark pair of jeans that fit well. Not too baggy and skip the skinny jeans. The darker they are you can dress them up with a blazer. Get 4 solid colored button downs and 3 polo-collared shirts. Again, pay attention to the fit. You are trying to achieve a "this guy has his shit toget…
/r/MarriedRedPill14/06/15 12:56 PM
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"Need a break from being her rock"- I feel that way a lot. Not just with the marriage, but just dealing with shit. From running my businesses (with some employees that are family) to at home shit, the biggest issue can be lack of peers who can relate to the shit I see. More times than not, I tend to withdraw until I resolve a path through an issue. That withdrawal can leave her isolated from me. It is certainly a weakness of mine. I work on it constantly but can definitely neglect that part of m…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/05/15 01:49 AM
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Thank You for your service. When I read your message, I do not see a weak man or a marriage in trouble. I just see someone who needs to get to the bottom of some issues. Your journey is different from many but not unique. You will have to bring up that old shit and walk through it. Find some way to come to terms with your experiences. Applying MRP is a joke compared to what you have already gone through. Work on your mental/emotional side, tell your wife to bear with you for a bit that you have …
/r/MarriedRedPill26/05/15 09:17 AM
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I am not speaking from dead bedroom experience, so take the following at face value. There are two aspects of this problem I'd like you to consider. First, if she wants to fuck you, she will. Keep following your plan. As your SMV, your confidence, etc grow, so will her attraction to you. Remember, make the decisions, etc. Do the small things that give her confidence that this new you is here to stay. You are a man worthy of her submission. You are not going to undo a decade of mistakes with lift…
/r/MarriedRedPill08/05/15 12:09 AM
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I missed it, good observation. She was certainly looking to stir the pot and feeling some unease over OP's changes.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/04/15 12:14 AM
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"Yes, she does this thing with her tongue, anyways, let me show you" then escalate "Yes, they have this new thing called "deep throating?" Who knew what I was missing." "Do you want me to have an affair? You seem more interested than me?" "Why would I need to have an affair, babe?" Walk away, it's rhetorical. "Did I miss some lipstick? Shit, I knew I should have showered."
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/15 11:16 PM
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I think we get caught up in "the rules" when considering rp. Sometimes how you say something is more important than what you say. A calm, collected "fuck.you." Is powerful in itself. Like you said, not flying off the handle illustrates you remained in control. Someone can nitpick it and say you entered her frame, but for you it seemed to work. I'd consider it a win.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/15 04:40 AM
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At least when you lost frame, you went all out. It woulda been a lot worse if you got all butt hurt, stood up, called her a meanie head and tried to walk out like a boss. We put a lot of pressure on ourselves. Whether it be for the family, employees, ourselves, the pressure can definately build up. When shit gets like you are describing, I think about why I try to live a lifestyle in this manner. For me, it all boils down to fun. I want to be the guy performing in pressure situations. I know for…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/15 02:48 AM
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Yea, I was thinking the same thing. I'll let y'all know how it pans out. (Not the apology, the fun part.)
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/15 07:06 PM
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You're hitting on something I hadn't thought about, I was looking at it from my point of view. So she has embraced being my "first mate" in all facets of our life. She allows me to lead, and it's a role I enjoy. Then I throw this goal at her minutes before we start and expect her to perform to that level. I basically threw the keys to her and said "impress me." Then instead of taking the lead back and guiding her to where I wanted, I expected her to elevate her game through a verbal challenge. H…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/15 06:45 PM
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Your feedback especially the description of her test being a "shit test/comfort test" was what I was looking for. You're right the test was of a hybrid variety, and I misjudged it. I agree totally that I'm bitching about being hungry while at a feast. While her submissive nature is what I want, it's hard to get her to enter my frame of both the "immersion and emotional" segments of DEVI. She has plenty of O's, but I don't have her lusting for me yet. I don't see any "hunger" from her, definately…
/r/MarriedRedPill15/03/15 04:01 PM
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Lol- the reference to my first post is great. Is this where I get upset over an internet tough guy hurting my MRP "cred?" Nice try guy, I'm not going to engage that section of your post, it's a waste of time. You are using circular logic. Any post made here asking for advice would fall under your same argument. "Asking for advice- you haven't become outcome independent or you wouldn't be here asking this question." Someone looking for feedback doesn't inherently make their actions wrong. Your pr…
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First, your replies just come across as butt-hurt. Step away from the keyboard for a second, you have stopped attacking the message and started attacking me. That's more blue-pill that anything I have said or implied. It seems like you have a strong covert contract going here. "I'm a mod now, I shouldn't be called out on my bullshit." When did I say he should bitch and complain? I said he should continue to improve himself. He should set the tone through example. He's the husband that isn't phas…
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The problem isn't with calling out behavior you see as wrong, but the manner you suggested. There was another post where someone pointed out the wife "wanted" him to engage. And that other poster is correct. Why is it the OP's problem she is pouting in her room? He's not responsible for her feelings. He's responsible for setting the course the family follows. "Laughing in her face" anyway you cut it is poor leadership. Can he call her out? Sure, nothing wrong with confrontation. How you do or sa…
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You defended this statement through out this thread. You had to defend it because it was a stretch. To each his own, but laughing in your wife's face isn't leading the relaitionship. There's a time to be an ass, where that type of behavior will pay dividends for yourself or the relaitionship. "Laughing in her face" is setting what example? Trying to escalate the emotion in arguments is a positive? It's fine if he calls her on her bs, and yes I agree that his motive cannot be avoiding confrontati…
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