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I’m 6’0 and I think every girl I’ve been with said they liked that I was tall (and I’m not freakishly tall, just a bit above average). Short women seem to prefer me ive found. I do think there is prejudice against shorter guys and it’s harder for them. Not that women are swarming me by any means though, my dating apps are a ghost town. But I’ve known shorter guys who were much more successful with women than me because they were smoother, more extroverted, or more handsome.
/r/seduction08/05/22 02:14 AM
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He was stonewalled on improved healthcare by Republicans though, no?
/r/seduction05/05/22 01:29 AM
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‘The rich get richer’ phenomenon called the Pareto principle is probably in effect.
/r/seduction28/04/22 09:34 PM
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I think certain ‘seductive’ behaviours can just come across super creepy in certain contexts, and the social calibration, like you said, doesn’t happen automatically. Some of the early behaviours can be just really hard to stomach, and sometimes for good reason. I think it’s like driving, people kind of either want you to drive well and know what you’re doing or get off the road because you could do something dangerous. A guy that thinks seduction is about being as aggressive as possible can be …
/r/seduction25/04/22 12:49 PM
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Why not? If they will demean you, humiliate you, argue and yell at you if you try to tell them the truth, it's logical for a lot of people to just pretend things aren't the case and avoid the person and the situation. If you smell bad and I know that telling you will make you angry, yell at me, or worse hit me or kill me, it's logical to preserve my own safety by just not telling you. Most people tell white lies because the truth causes such a negative reaction, but if they feel they can be hone…
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:59 AM
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That's fair, if you can connect well with someone perhaps you'll decide on that in time.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:57 AM
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Can I ask what is your response to my question above? If you are this connected with a woman, why not get married and start a family with her?
/r/seduction19/12/21 11:23 PM
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They are extremely difficult to attain for many, many people, yes.
/r/seduction19/12/21 11:22 PM
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If he's not demeaning, breaking hearts, hurting people, living a confident life, knows what he wants and wants to build her up and make the world a better place, then he should be proud of that label so that other guys can see him as a leader to emulate.
/r/seduction19/12/21 03:46 PM
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Just like you and anyone else women can lie and bend the truth, but that doesn't mean they always will lie. I find that if you give a person a chance to be honest they will, if you demean the honesty then they will lie because they don't trust you.
/r/seduction19/12/21 03:45 PM
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So my question to you is what kind of thing you are looking for in life if you are this capable of building a strong relationship with a woman and providing her safety? Because the truth is that if it's just about seduction then she can open up to you, but then after a while you will part and find another woman to do this with, and then another, and then another. Why not build this safety over a longer period of time and get married or be together forever? I'm at the age where I don't want to ju…
/r/seduction19/12/21 03:44 PM
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I've heard the best way to a woman's heart is to just scream "I'M A VERY MUSCULAR MAN!" at her! But then again, I'm a romantic...
/r/seduction18/12/21 08:07 PM
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Good luck my friend. This is just my experience, but I am 29. I've had sex with a prostitute and it was hollow. I got a blowjob off of OkCupid and it was...alright. I've tried having sex with random girls and could never get into it. Best sex ever was with my longterm ex-girlfriend where we knew each other, she knew what I liked and I knew what she liked. Do what you will, but you might find the fantasy doesn't live up to the expectation, and sex without love is just masturbation with another pe…
/r/seduction18/12/21 03:14 AM
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Maybe if a guy is younger and thirstier and trying to show his friends what a stud is, then sex with a random chick is super important, but for me I just want to find a pretty, positive woman to share a life with, who enjoys good sex and would be a good mother. So a little different than just talking to every human with a vagina trying to put my penis in it lol
/r/seduction18/12/21 01:28 AM
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Yeah, that's fine, I find girls that young pretty immature anyway. I'd prefer to meet someone probably 24-25 at the youngest, and I'm also more interested in getting married and potentially having kids as well. So I figure that a lot of my success would just be making myself available in places where attractive and single post-university women hang out, and then just finding the right one. I don't really care about getting laid a whole bunch, I'd prefer something long term anyway.
/r/seduction15/12/21 02:33 AM
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I do feel much more confident having lost 50 lbs this year. I'm hoping to get down to 159, which I was at back in university. I'm 6'0 so that's always helped me, but I think looking athletic is helpful for everyone.
/r/seduction15/12/21 01:29 AM
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...like? lol
/r/seduction15/12/21 01:27 AM
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How did you act towards women who didn't want to do that for you though? It sounds kind of creepy to me.
/r/seduction15/12/21 01:27 AM
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I've lost 50lbs this year and am hoping for another 20 to get leaner. I haven't got any positive attention from women, but I certainly feel more confident now that I think I look decent.
/r/seduction15/12/21 01:11 AM
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I've read some of yours, if you are legit then it's interesting that you have your progress public like this to learn from. I guess at the end it's all about taking action, it's easy to theorize this and that, but even doing things poorly out in the world will have more real benefit than a perfect plan done at home.
/r/seduction15/12/21 01:09 AM
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It's amazing how much social skills can get us in this world. I quit a job as a delivery driver to work door-to-door sales and now work in an office. My social life has done a 180, I have tons of friends now and don't even need a woman to fulfill that inner sense of affection that I used to want badly (which probably came across as neediness). Talking is the key to so many different doors: work, relationships, living an interesting life...a lot of the time these things that seem locked and forbi…
/r/seduction15/12/21 12:22 AM
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I agree with this advice! You gotta put yourself into the battle fray of social interactions a lot in order to build up that good inner game, and the inner confidence comes from a lot of unlikely places. I read a lot of positive psychology and try to actually be a good person. I think doing "pickup" without being a decent person under it is just skeezy and hollow. On the other hand, I did door-to-door sales and did learn "tactics" that helped me to aquire a ton of friends and improve my social s…
/r/seduction15/12/21 12:19 AM
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That's a good way to see things, which really a person should build themselves up to the point where they are a commodity and are vetting the other side just as much. It's hard not to act thirsty for sex/job/food, etc. when you have none of that, but if you can incrementally improve you can be in a position of "abundance" (I know seduction uses that term a lot, but I guess it applies).
/r/seduction15/12/21 12:17 AM
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This has started happening in my life for sure. I used to have low self esteem and no direction, so I’d idolize almost everyone I talk to. Once you figure out wrong from right morally and what a good and fun life looks like, it makes perfect sense to filter people based on their personality. Otherwise you are just lying to yourself that someone is more likeable, healthy, interesting, etc. Than they really are. And honestly I try to find value in everyone I meet, even the people with negative qua…
/r/seduction14/12/21 08:21 PM
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I don't think the checklist is even necessarily a bad thing. The objective things like dressing well, being responsible, and making money and having a good careers aren't bad by any means. But truly living requires a lot more than that, it requires a drive to really engage with the world, which is what a lot of boring guys are missing I gather. They check off the boxes, but are they really there? Are they really in touch with this big, weird world going on around us? A lot of the interesting par…
/r/seduction11/12/21 02:29 AM
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Lol perhaps seduction shouldn't be your focus, but being less of an angry stick in the mud.
/r/seduction04/12/21 03:00 PM
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If you think a human being smiling and waving at you is bullshit, then you might want to sit and think about that for a while. She's saying hello to you, she's a person attempting to reach out to another person, and you put up these walls and say "why don't you come over here and approach me YOU BITCH!" that kind of energy would put anybody off. Life is a dance, learn to dance with it, there's always a chance for connection. And even if you don't get what you probably want which is to get laid o…
/r/seduction04/12/21 04:54 AM
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You sound kind of angry at these women, my guy. Just accept that it is what it is, she's smiling and waving at you, the human thing is to smile and wave back, and then if you want to talk to her then do that. A girl smiling and waving at you isn't a spider and you aren't a fly in her web! haha
/r/seduction04/12/21 04:33 AM
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If a chick smiles and waves and you still don't shoot your shot, or at least make conversation, that's on the guy haha We all know men will always do more work, good on her for putting in some effort.
/r/seduction04/12/21 02:37 AM
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Yeah, talking to a lot of people gets you out of your shell and well-connected. I also find that focusing on pickup makes a person kind of weird, and like a robot looking for specific key-phrases to turn on a woman. I'd prefer to just make conversation and see where it goes, no expectations, just talking to a woman and if I found her attractive then trying to escalate, but no reason you can't just have a conversation with an attractive woman either, they are still people with thoughts and opinio…
/r/seduction04/12/21 02:26 AM
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Absolutely agree with all of this, couldn't have said it better. She has to be good-looking enough for you to be sexually and romantically attracted to her, but that will never, ever paper over a bad personality and a toxic outlook on the world.
/r/seduction01/12/21 12:51 AM
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It’s probably because the guy complimenting rarely is just throwing them away, he’s trying to get something from you. The idea of a random stranger coming up to you and then expecting something from you is not right.
/r/seduction29/11/21 02:31 PM
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As a guy almost 30 I think if a woman were too gung ho about being with me she’s just using me to satisfy some deep inner need for affection. I think mature people gently let the other people in, being head over heels is for teenagers. Just my experience.
/r/seduction28/11/21 12:28 AM
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I think this guy needs therapy more than he needs to get laid. Why do you even want sex anyway? The validation that you are attractive and high-fives from other men? The actual sex itself? What's your entire motivation for trying to sleep with women in the first place? At the end of the day you don't need sex with random women to be happy, and guys who are desperate for that kind of validation are sucking all the fun out of life.
/r/seduction27/11/21 04:05 PM
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Pretending does eventually lead to a change in behavior though. At least in my case, I think the mask we wear can become who we "really" are. After all, a lot of social interaction is just acting we learned at a very young age until it became automatic and normal.
/r/seduction26/11/21 01:20 AM
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If someone likes you they’ll make it obvious. Yeah, this is mostly what I've found from experience. The girls who want to be with me will put themselves in the situation where they'll be around me. If they don't want to be with me, they won't put themselves in those situations. At that point it's just a matter of "escalating" to actually get them on a date, and then if you have been talking for a while "escalating" towards a kiss, and from there it really just handles itself. If a girl agrees to…
/r/seduction26/11/21 01:11 AM
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This guy does this all the time here lol
/r/seduction25/11/21 01:15 AM
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"Yeah my mom actually passed away" "Sick bro, seriously! Mad props dawg!"
/r/seduction24/11/21 01:10 PM
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Men typically love being showered with affection in order to gain their love and trust, just as one would just walk over to a new dog and pet it vigorously or rub its belly, etc. This is so true. Best way to become my friend is to have an intense moment where we become super best buds because we've shared everything about ourselves in the first 5 minutes. Women, and actually a lot of guys too, you have to approach them and back off, let them know you are there and are interested in contact, but …
/r/seduction23/11/21 02:19 AM
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I agree with this perspective. If I didn't put my foot in the door first, I'd have TONS less success with people in general. You need to take initative, because half of the time the other person will simply not engage with you. Entropy takes over if nobody makes the first move. So you have to be a leader, but then, once you've established the connection you can play it cooler and not push things. There's a bit of a dance to it, with friends as well, of contacting then playing it cool to give spa…
/r/seduction23/11/21 02:16 AM
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As far as children fathered, too, the chances of a person like that being careful to use some form of birth control also seems less likely. Yes, I think criminals tend to have poorer long-term planning skills and sometimes lower IQ as well. Which means that they don't care about having a financial cushion for raising a child, or creating a healthy home. They'll just have unprotected sex and get a girl pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:54 PM
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Lol I just thought you sounded uptight, could use a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:00 AM
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Are these women in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:09 AM
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A dude on the way home from work asked me if I wanted to buy smokes, I said "how's your day going?" and we had a good chat about him working in the oil field as an electrician. Talking to people is a key that opens an enormous amount of doors in society, it's an extremely valuable skill.
/r/seduction20/11/21 12:05 AM
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In my experience it depended on the group. I figure both young men and women are probably superficial and kind of narcissistic, but mature women wouldn't badmouth the men around them.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/21 02:13 AM
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I think most guys are a mix of wanting long-term stuff and casual sex. I don't think attractiveness has much to do with whether a guy is just using women for his ego, that has more to do with deeper stuff about their identity, like whether they are a good person or mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:10 AM
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They might not be the same person saying those two things.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/21 01:02 AM
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Yes, that's true, but it's reductive to think that the men who don't get sex are somehow all super decent guys longing for a loving relationship, instead of just unsuccessful sleazeballs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:33 AM
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Or are you just another rabid lying sexist on this sub? First off, way to come out of the gate being kind of a dick. You can look it up yourself, if you want a conversation, then maybe start a little bit less accusatory lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:13 AM
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It's more the hypocrisy that is the issue, yes. The idea of opening up the boys scouts but not the girls scouts. Though there are times I just want to hang out with the boys. I'm more relaxed and feel less like I have to be on my best behavior; I feel like I can say things that I can't with women around. I kind of get this, but the more often you are around women the more you can just act like you would around the boys, talk about what you normally would talk about and care less about it.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/21 12:13 AM
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That makes sense, yeah I think you are right that dating apps are the only way some men are even talking to women in the first place which can make them weird and socially uncalibrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:28 PM
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You can choose to believe that, I don't. Growing up I don't think unattractive men were particularly more likely to search for meaningful, long-term relationships, they were just horny guys that wanted to bang hot women. It depends on the guy and his wants and maturity level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:26 PM
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Yeah, I think this is a pretty reductive take. What male-dominated groups are we talking about? The video game community? Model train enthusiasts? I think if people are respectful they can fit into any group, and it can actually be more interesting to have multi-sex groups, as it brings more experiences to a group and more perspectives. Just like having men be in a woman-centered space, which can change the dynamic just as much.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/21 01:24 PM
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Yes, I do. I think all men like casual sex, and all men get an ego boost by having sex with a hot woman. Unattractive men might even be less willing to commit because they could see her as a hassle or hold a grudge against beautiful women and have less personal experience with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:22 PM
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I believe this, I now have very strong relationships with some male friends, but in my early 20s everything was a lot more superficial and competitive, we didn't rely on each other for strength at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:19 PM
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We know some of the predictors of antisocial behavior is isolation and feeling not a part of society so it becomes a chicken and the egg problem. Yes, that's a big one. I think that the problem isn't with all men at all times having trouble with social connection. There are tons of men who are doing fine, it's just that many fall through the cracks and then, because they are isolated, nobody pays attention to them anyway and everyone forgets about them. I've found in my personal life that isolat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:19 PM
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I don't think it was just resting bitch face. The two girls both were in general pretty negative and kind of hateful in person, whereas over text they seemed lovely and sweet. I think maybe they could just hide their true personality better over text? Either that or I disappointed them in person and they became more negative as a reaction to me. When a person is texting they can plan out the best thing to say for whatever they are trying to convince the other person of, but in person it's much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:05 AM
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Well, I'm sure there's also a lot of regret there as well if he really reflected on all the lost opportunities to talk about stuff. I know that I have regrets over the lack of communication in my last relationship. Sometimes people just don't know the best way forward, and it sucks when everything falls apart because nobody is talking to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:02 AM
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Most women probably don't know that the best guy isn't going to be in a relationship with her, and especially when the "$100" man is just as likely to just use her for sex. A lot of women will attest to even ugly men just trying to use them for sex, the validation of sleeping with a hot woman. If she doesn't know who is using her for sex anyway, why not try to go for the best guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:48 AM
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I have a couple thoughts: firstly, I think some of it is innate and not due to society. Testosterone in the womb apparently leads to less neural connections towards sociality, so women might be innately more social and less "isolated" in their mentality than men. Second, I think that women being favored by society more is often true, but not always, men in often are listened to more in large-groups and deeper voices are usually treated with more respect in the work place. A lot of women will att…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:45 AM
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I do get this as well, just talking to people on Reddit or wherever, or messaging a random friend on Facebook. Sometimes it's just bad English though. I've found with women that the way they text is often really different than how they are in real life. I've had a couple girls who texted with lots of smiley emojis and LOLs, and then I met them in person and they were either stone cold or, frankly, bitchy. I just don't think text translates well to real world conversation. That being said I can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:41 AM
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I enjoyed reading your comment thread and think you argued your point of view well, although were a little harsh with the other guy calling his situation pathetic. Especially when he seems stuck in a marriage that he's not happy in, but has a lot of responsibilities and connection with the rest of his family. I agree that it is best to talk about sex frequently and find someone who will prioritize this. I don't think it's as simple as the doomsday "long marriage == no sex" prediction. I think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:35 AM
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Interesting, I think this is the way to go for most people to meet someone. It's hard to find parties after university though, in my case, but I think I'll try to go to more social events. Which is probably a good thing anyway, to go out and have interesting conversations with people at events.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:21 AM
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Oh, and also bc there is NO socially acceptable way for younger men to approach women they’re attracted to nowadays. Everything is interpreted as harassment. I think men can and do still approach in settings like bars and parties. Drinking in general has gone down in the last few generations, so there's a lot less courageous approaching of women while drunk, and loosened up women more open to the flirtation. Also it's migrated more to things like snapchat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:18 AM
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All they have to do is show a little bit more interest in one of these men that they already know and the rest takes care of itself. I think that's basically the case, a woman might have a bunch of guys she sees as a possible match, and then will just test the waters with him more if she feels intrigued or back off if he does something she doesn't like. I do think women value comfort far more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:16 AM
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Reddit is the 9th most popular website in the United States, it's not exactly some obscure secret...it has more traffic than Instagram...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:12 AM
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Where did you meet your exes? Through friends, bars, social events?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:11 AM
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I agree on women not having as high of a desire for sex as men, but do you think they also have a lower desire for companionship? I do know that women tend to have more deep social connections than men and are therefore able to scratch that social itch better than men, whereas a lot of men rely on their partner for emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:10 AM
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If they are being swarmed with offers, why wouldn't they choose the best ones? If people were offering you $5, $50, $100, and $1000, why not go for the $1000?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:08 AM
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What do you think says to you that a guy has trouble talking with women in public? Something in the way they text, or did you only find out when you met them in person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:06 AM
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No, I don't care about either. If I were hanging around with male friends I wouldn't mind women joining. I'm older though, so we don't really segregate as much as younger people do.
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/21 02:36 AM
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I've been good friends with my cousin for a long time and she's never done this. Maybe on my death bed she'll whisper in my ear "there needs to be more female representation in video games" lol
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/21 08:02 PM
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There's a difference between thinking women can be dumb/stupid/bad people and saying that women as a species infiltrate spaces and then demean men lol There are a lot of women I know personally that wouldn't do that.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/21 06:03 PM
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Women start as lurkers and explorers, trying to "listen" to male problems and show fake sympathy (evolutionary female nature of deception). Alex, I'll take "this man doesn't have good relationships with women" for 500 please
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/21 02:32 PM
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I honestly don't care about men only spaces lol I think men should share their problems, but actively not letting women join seems dumb. Just like female-only spaces aren't something I'm interested in either.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/21 02:31 PM
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I've asked multiple times and usually they just think it's funny, but then we make out anyway.
/r/seduction13/11/21 11:26 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/seduction13/11/21 08:53 PM
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One of the biggest and most profound social realizations I've had is that so much of being social is win-win. It's not a zero sum game, you help others, they help you. It's a pretty staggering effect! Yes, I pointed out to a guy at the mall that I liked his hat, it's good to do this kind of thing for sure.
/r/seduction13/11/21 02:35 PM
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I don't know, but I am going to make an assumption based on what I've seen. If they were a close family that communicated, none of this would have happened.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 07:07 AM
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So, it seems like they agree that life scientifically begins at conception, but this doesn't automatically mean that a fetus' right to life supersedes a woman's right to abort. Even if life scientifically starts at conception, that doesn't mean that a fetus still has a legal right to exist.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 01:30 AM
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You're living in an echo chamber and hyper-focus on negative opinions
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:57 AM
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To a point, yes, I agree. But we have no information about whether the parents talked with their daughter, they asked her why she felt she had to do porn to make money, if she had other hopes and dreams, etc. My guess is that they are a family where nobody talks to each other but they have high social expectations, so when the daughter went against the grain they just disowned her instead of talking to her and giving her support.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 12:42 AM
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Go message all of your Facebook friends and see how many actually want a conversation. 50% won't respond, 25% will say 1-2 things, 20% might have a decent conversation with you online, and 5% will rekindle the relationship and might actually want to meet up and talk frequently. This has been my experience with messaging a bunch of my Facebook friends. It's a numbers game, but I actually am grabbing drinks with an old buddy from college because of doing this which is cool!
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:34 AM
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There's a study where people assumed they'd be happier not speaking to strangers, but both participants were happier talking. People vastly underestimate how much other people want to talk to them, probably for innate biological reasons.
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:32 AM
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It's not about whether she needs your support financially or not, it's whether she needs your support socially and emotionally, which of course she does. It's very cruel to isolate and ostracize your children. You don't have to condone what they do, but how will giving them less love and support lead them to a better lifestyle?
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 12:30 AM
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You're always linking to that book, are you the author?
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:29 AM
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I don't know, I'd have to know more about their family. It's possible they are a family that really isn't that close and by not living up to the family's image she gets shunned, when she should be listened to and understood and given direction on a better path. It's possible she's been a handful for her whole life, but still, it's family, you support them and help them. Even if you have methheads in your family, you do your best to give them the support that they can get better. I don't know the…
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 12:08 AM
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Yeah, but you still don't give up on your child, that's pretty awful. That's probably why she went into it in the first place, her parents were the type to excommunicate her from the family instead of build her up and put her on a better path.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/21 12:04 AM
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I wouldn't be happy if my daughter had an Onlyfans, but that's an incredibly shitty family to disown somebody for that. I can't imagine ever stopping talking to my daughter because of something like her doing porn, sounds like really selfish parents.
/r/AntiFeminists12/11/21 01:18 PM
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That is an interesting statistic, I guess I'll have to change my view of whether a fetus is when human life starts. At the same time though, many biologists are still pro-choice. So life starting at conception doesn't necessarily mean that somebody is pro-life. 63% of them were non-religious, only 15% were pro-life, 11% were conservative and 8% Republicans, while 85% were pro-choice, 89% were liberal and 92% Democrats. 96% of these biologists affirmed the view that a human’s life begins at ferti…
/r/AntiFeminists12/11/21 01:17 PM
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So, in our culture and legal system the right to life is guaranteed for beings either outside the womb, in pro-choice cultural spheres, and within the womb, in pro-life cultural spheres. This has differed in different culture, for instance, some tribes don't consider a baby "living" until a certain age, because so many of them die from malnutrition. I'm not arguing for cultural relativism, but I would say when exactly to define a baby as a "person" is some measure of subjectivity, especially bec…
/r/AntiFeminists12/11/21 04:04 AM
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Okay, you seem to suggest the scientific viewpoint calls it life. But are you coming at it from a religious viewpoint? I don't believe a human soul is infused into a fetus at a particular time, I think that internal selfhood develops in a complicated process. The ending of life in the womb, if we can call it life, shouldn't outweigh the will of the mother, who is a living, breathing person with the ability to think and feel. The fetus, at least to me, seems less alive and therefore less of a mor…
/r/AntiFeminists12/11/21 02:30 AM
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I do think that any legal restraint is a form of control, control isn't necessarily a bad thing, I just don't think a fetus is worthy of maintaining life because it is completely dependent on a woman and barely has an existence. Also, science doesn't determine the philosophical notion of when "life" starts, human beings may not even be fully self-conscious into our late childhood years. It's clear that a sperm is alive and an egg is alive as well, but it'd be ridiculous to say we shouldn't destr…
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/21 03:01 PM
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The problem is that being pro-choice means you have a choice, you can keep the baby or abort it. Being pro-life means you want to control what all women do. So that's why a feminist would be anti-women who are pro-life.
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/21 05:39 AM
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I'm not super successful with women either, despite having some really good qualities, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but maybe you aren't playing the numbers game enough? Even if you do everything right, if you are only talking with the 2-3 women in your office, you just don't have a large enough pool of women to see success. Like if you only applied to 2-3 jobs, you might have a great resume, but they just aren't looking. Some people need to apply to 300 jobs to see success, especial…
/r/seduction10/11/21 03:17 AM
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And how many of them are like 15 and never read Betty Friedan or Judith Butler? They just hate men and have vague ideas of what feminist issues are because they are young and dumb. I think that's the type of person that this sub is mostly against anyway.
/r/AntiFeminists07/11/21 02:19 PM
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China actually has double the green energy resources of the US. I'm not saying we'll reverse the negative effects of climate change, I think we'll see a lot of population displacement, just no major wars because of nukes. If any of the nuke-owning countries get invaded, the nukes fly and then we obliterate ourselves, which won't happen. There might be smaller-scale conflicts between India and Bangladesh for example or in the Middle East like the Syrian conflict, or in Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:58 PM
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Reminds me of the Book of Pook, that the attractive man is living out his imagination in reality. The regular guy sees a hot girl and thinks about her and goes home and masturbates, the attractive man approaches her and tries to act out in reality what he wants to do with her in fantasy. Jerks and Bad Boys also act out their fantasies in reality, often to the detriment of everyone else.
/r/seduction06/11/21 06:29 AM
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Yeah, not sure about that. There'll be difficulties, but in the post-nukes age we won't see mass conflict, that's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:56 AM
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Large scale war/disease will probably never happen again like they happened historically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:23 AM
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I come back from my meeting with women to declare "PEACE IN OUR TIME!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:22 AM
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Basically "if everyone stopped wanting gold, gold would have no value!" Good luck with that. There's an economic problem of getting all consumers to artificially reduce their demand for the "product" (women).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:22 AM
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So I’m curious how you transitioned away from being a Ned Flanders white picket fence guy to being a more attractive person who sort of commands respect and is able to give girls what they want without being an arrogant or brash dickhead I mean, I'm not having tons of success with women so take what I say with a grain of salt. But I will say that it's keeping in mind escalation and trying to escalate whenever possible. A nice guy will never make an overt move because he's scared of rejection and…
/r/seduction05/11/21 03:11 AM
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It's an unfortunate reality that a ton of people go through, not just guys but women also don't have a lot of family and friend involvement in their upbringing. Not one of my uncles or aunts or grandparents really truly wanted to hear about my actual experiences as a teen or later. My dad was even apparently a casanova and slept with tons of women, but didn't give any advice at all my whole life, I'm not going to treat this like a therapy session, we have a good relationship now, he just wasn't …
/r/seduction05/11/21 03:02 AM
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Yeah, that's basically it. There are either interested or not, and you help them along and lead them through the process. Learning some magic words to make women want you is fool's gold, the only magic words are "I'm a billionaire" or "I'm famous" (and even then it's not like women will automatically salivate over you). You can really only look for the girls who might like you and then connect with those girls, and if they are very interested in you, they will make it easy. Unfortunately, the "l…
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:46 AM
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Would you recommend just going to a mall and talking to girls? There's one of the biggest in North America near me. I cold approached one girl there in the cafeteria, and she just ignored me lol
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:41 AM
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I think nice guys are unattractive because they are basically constantly wearing the societal mask of politeness, like they never get into the meat and potatoes of human relationships, because they're stuck on the "Hi, it's been a pleasure to meet with you! Perhaps we can rendevouz in the future some time! I never think about sex or bad things!" level. I mean, most girls want to have hot sex, you have to get beyond the white-picket-fence mentality at some point and be real with them. There's pro…
/r/seduction05/11/21 02:34 AM
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Sure man, DM me lol
/r/seduction04/11/21 03:19 AM
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Okay, good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:41 AM
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Nah, you might even change their mind and improve their life. And vice-versa, the best way to expand your mind is to talk to people who think different things than you. Also, if you are the first person to walk away from an argument it probably means you aren't confident enough in your position. I'll keep debating someone until either they change their mind or I do.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/21 10:57 PM
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I guess it's about equal for both: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:55 PM
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I really do think it's that if she's genuinely interested, she'll make time to talk to you. I have some friends that will text/phone me all the time, which is great, and some "friends" where I text them and they might send me back something in a couple days or not at all. The interest level will show you what she really thinks about you, and playing games is really only to work with someone who isn't super interested in you in the first place. Not that you should make yourself 100% available to …
/r/seduction03/11/21 12:50 PM
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Nah, some guys are like that. I've had guy friends who would stop wanting to hang out or talk if I gave them attention.
/r/seduction03/11/21 12:41 PM
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I agree with aspects of what you've written about, but traditional masculinity is kind of a vague concept. It was traditional in the 1700-1800s to own slaves and fight duels over lost honor. It was traditional to hit your wife if she disobeyed you. There's an element of testosterone that makes men more violent worldwide. I agree that fatherlessness is a big prominent issue in America, but forcing people to get married and not being allowed to divorce isn't something I can agree with.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/21 12:32 AM
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Calling people 'filth' means you probably don't see much of yourself in them, meaning you are blind and willfully shutting yourself off from the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:30 AM
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The feminist idea of toxic masculinity is thinking being violent is masculine, which this is an example of.
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/21 11:00 PM
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That's an unhealthy attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:52 PM
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Reminds me of Coach Corey Wayne saying it's super important to accurately judge a woman's interest level, not put your interest for her on her. Just because you think she's super hot, doesn't mean she's into you at all basically. Looking for red light/yellow light/green light indicators, like in door-to-door sales.
/r/seduction02/11/21 12:48 PM
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The stuff on eye contact and building social momentum helped me.
/r/seduction02/11/21 12:47 PM
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I thinks more along the lines of ‘coffee gives you cancer, no wait it’s good for you’ confusing studies. But I would agree Oprah probably wouldn’t talk about studies that put women in a bad light probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:38 AM
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I don't think it's propaganda, but is a misunderstanding that I believed, so I will change my point of view on this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:08 AM
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That's really cool, it sounds like you were open to having a good time and seeing where things went, which is a very likeable trait for both women and men. I was a bit of a depressed loner for a lot of my life, so didn't have a lot of these kinds of experiences, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:32 PM
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Right, I'm just guessing it's moreso for the same reasons that a guy might not want to be your friend. Lack of social skills, differing values, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:30 PM
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I'm also single. Do you have any female relatives? Do you have any friends in general, because usually they have connections and friends and girls in the group as well? I mean, most of my friends have been men, but saying "I don't know and never will" is such a seriously defeatist attitude. Yes, you've predicted the entirety of your life and time on Earth, good for you, now you can put your feet up because you have forseen all. Maybe you can pick out a lottery ticket number for me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:49 AM
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I think going into venues to socialize is a better idea that striking up conversations out on the street, but then again there are probably areas that are a little bit more open to random conversation, like if a girl is at a park or something. I think a lot of interesting interactions with strangers can happen out on the street, but most people have their guard up for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:46 AM
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I have a really good relationship with a female cousin, we're very good friends. I've been good friends with a few different girls. It was mostly just about treating her like I would a male friend. I was thinking that there might be something about the way you are interacting with girls that makes them not want to be friends with you. Like you treat them weirdly or have bad social skills. If it's not your social skills, what do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:36 AM
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Radiating positivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:33 AM
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That's a good point, sometimes you gotta put in a lot of legwork to get results. It might not be "normal", but I've put in 5x as much effort into rekindling old relationships and contacting acquaintances, and it has resulted in improvements to my social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:31 AM
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Men have a higher rate of obesity in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:24 AM
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How are your general social skills? Women are people and still respond to humor, good conversation, shared interests, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:23 AM
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but god damn is there a lot of fucking cancerous tissue among females in modern society. You need to build a good social life not dependent upon one woman for everything though. How's your relationship with friends and family? You strike me as extremely angry and frustrated, which says to me that you probably don't have much social support and aren't well-connected with people around you in the real world. You need to make this your goal, not putting your all into one relationship. Positivity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:02 AM
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Basic lesson is that girls by and large don't approach guys even if they are interested. Some do, but most don't.
/r/seduction01/11/21 02:06 AM
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I do think that maturity really is ever evolving to a degree, even people in their 50s and 60s often say they knew nothing 5 years ago. Which might explain why women almost universally like guys a bit older than them through their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:45 PM
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I think it’s fair to want a guy at the same maturity level or slightly better. If you’re 30 with a career wanting children, you probably don’t want to deal with an immature guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:06 PM
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If you're in a relationship where you trust the other person it makes sense.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:58 PM
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https://www.fastcompany.com/90467411/shocking-study-finds-1-in-3-are-victims-of-revenge-porn-or-image-based-sexual-abuse the majority of abuse is not committed by former sexual partners seeking revenge, but by domestic abusers, stalkers, hackers, and those trying to manipulate, control, or extort peers or celebrities.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:55 PM
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It’s not that they don’t have a chance, it’s that guys are petrified of approaching women for a variety of reasons, some of them legitimate. I’m not sure whether cold approach is always the best manoeuvre, but at bars and stuff like that you’ll have more success actually talking to women. But I think the vast majority of guys are really scared of getting shot down by girls. Not saying cold approach will work all the time though, a lot of women don’t want to be bothered, but quite a few are recep…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:46 AM
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"creeps, weirdos, etc." What the hell were they doing there? They don't belong there... Anyway, it depends on the woman and the situation. I think a lot of it is a numbers game, and if you do it respectfully and mindful of the context then you are in the clear. Also the attractiveness thing is based on studies of pictures and dating profiles, we don't know for certain, to my knowledge, that women rate the men they meet in person on these kind of exponential slopes. Women are much more responsive…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:20 AM
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A fetus appears in a mothers womb. An egg and a sperm is not a fetus, and nobody would call it a child. I'm asking you when the child appears. Because we can both agree that a sperm is not a child, an egg is not a child, and it's not a child when they connect automatically, so when does the child emerge? At what day? At what week?
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:29 AM
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So, if they see a man and a woman kiss it's fine, but seeing a man and a man kiss will warp their mind? Mother nature doesn't decide shit. Mother nature doesn't care at all about any of us, rape and murder and thievery and torture doesn't get stopped by mother nature. Morality is given by humans, we decide it, it's a negotiation between society. You didn't tell me when a child appears. When the sperm hits the egg? Is that when a child appears?
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:13 AM
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The Democrats mostly voted against the Iraq war; however, a large contingent did. So, yes the Dems also somewhat support imperialism, but it's good to keep an accurate view of which party is more in favor of pro-war legislation.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:05 AM
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Do you think gay people have no moral values at all? Do gay people murder, steal, lie, rape, and torture? If a straight person did all of those things, but wasn't gay would that make them slightly better than a gay person? Why is your vision of morality better than mine? Does it result in a better world if your view was what everyone believed? So a child appears at what exact moment? When the sperm hits the egg? How does this occur? The sperm hitting the egg at one particular second transforms t…
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 01:02 AM
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Sure, but they said only the Dems were about control. Doesn't compute with everything George W. Bush did, and elements of Trumpism. Trump was less of a war hawk than previous Republicans, but still amped up drone strikes.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 12:52 AM
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Marriage is whatever we as a society define to be, and a lot of us don't seem to mind when two guys or two women get married if they love each other and are faithful. Why should two heterosexual people getting married in Vegas and getting divorced a year later be better than two gay guys that love each other? I don't believe that a fetus should have the same rights as a child, and they are attached to a woman, so if you aren't wanted why should she be forced for 9 months to carry it?
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/21 12:12 AM
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As opposed to the Republicans who want to control the world militarily? That want to control who can get married? That want to control if women can get abortions?
/r/AntiFeminists30/10/21 09:24 PM
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Looking at this space as a reflection of either the US or the west as a whole is limited though. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/ has 40k members, would you make the same argument that there are Maoists everywhere? And apparently most Americans are satisfied in their relationship: https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_020921/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:41 PM
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Anger and hate usually doesn't lead to good life outcomes, you have to accept whatever the world throws at you, and transform it into something positive in your life. I don't think the RP/MGTOW lifestyle offers really anything in the way of positivity and personal growth, I've found it to be overwhelmingly angry and negative and hateful in its general mood. The PUA community, while it might not be good for long-term relationships is generally more carefree and fun, people posting their night out…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:19 PM
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I think the general opinion that "the guy asks out the girl" is extremely, extremely widespread to the point of being the norm. These average guys, myself included, have struggled because of the fear of putting ourselves into risky situations and getting shot down. It took me forever to ask out my first girlfriend in high school because I was so terrified. If the average unlucky guy started actually approaching women he'd have more success, but easier said then done, it can be fucking terrifying…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:14 PM
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The flip side is you can shit on people indiscriminately with no social repercussions. The guy who rants about how all women are whores would probably get told to take it down a notch even by fairly unprogressive friends. Real discussions face-to-face can involve a lot more compromise and nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:10 PM
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This sub has 86k members, which is a lot, but compared to the population as a whole has almost no bearing on the average man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:54 PM
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I had a friend who was really into RP back in the day when it came out, about 2012-2013 and he had success with women. He had a hot girlfriend and slept with a bunch of girls at bars, but he also improved himself physically and socially as much as possible, he became ripped, dressed well, was really confident with strangers and went after what he wanted. Also 5'11 decent looking blonde white guy. At the same time, he and his hot girlfriend broke up, and they seemed to have a fairly dysfunctional…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:29 PM
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Yeah, if you haven't tried to get really good profile pics for online dating, look at studies of what women find attractive, go to the gym and get fit, and talk to as many women as you can out in the real world, how can you say you've "tried everything?" It's the guy I heard about that said he approached thousands of women and never got a date that I'm concerned about, but he wouldn't elaborate anyway so I think he might have been lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:17 PM
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Yes, if you meet a lot of people you'll see both the diversity of human experience and the commonalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:14 PM
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I do wonder if you've tried online dating though? The average woman's profile gets 15-20x the matches that a man has. Like take some nice pics in a green area with a sun dress on, and even if you are very overweight and unattractive you will get some attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:20 AM
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http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Brain%20Structure%20and%20Functional%20Connectivity%20Associated%20With%20Pornography%20Consumption:%20The%20Brain%20on%20Porn.pdf The negative association of self-reported pornography consumption with the right striatum (caudate) volume, left striatum (putamen) activation during cue reactivity, and lower functional connectivity of the right caudate to the left dorsolateral prefrontal cortex could reflect change in neural plasticity as a consequence of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 11:34 PM
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Basically anything that Aubrey Plaza or Zooey Deschanel play, because they are both very cute and off-beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:33 AM
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Human beings love to socialize. Even when I worked in more blue collar environments, people weren't just stoically going about their business, they talked all the time. They might not talk about "anxiety and depression" or something, but they are still trying to connect and be friends with each other, just with more "motherfucking fuckers who fucking suck" kind of talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:28 AM
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I stopped watching it, just because I read a meta-study that it reduced gray matter in the brain. I think if you only watch a bit of it it's fine, but it can be addicting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:19 AM
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From asking my friends, it seems like most of us are more dominant, but there are some more submissive guys. Frankly, I love being dominant sexually, but one of my friends was raving about a "powerful woman" in the bedroom. I didn't get it, but it takes all kinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 12:17 AM
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I think the movement as a whole has completed most of its goals, and really has nowhere else to go. That's basically my thinking. Like Marxism lost steam after the implementation of the 40-hour work week and child labor laws. At some point you miss diminishing returns and you can't get any more of those big progressive things like giving women the vote or them getting careers and jobs. Same thing with the civil rights, after legal equality, a lot of other stuff is kind of just little things that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:11 AM
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I agree. For me the catalyst was getting broken up with at a low point in my life. I was admittedly very unattractive in a variety of ways: bad mental health, put on weight, didn't go to the gym, no career direction, isolated from friends...I was extremely distraught because we had been together for more than a decade, but after the storm calmed down I was able to see that this is reality, all relationships have transactions, and even if I get in another relationship I need to have general value…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:56 PM
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I think generally most women don't approach, even if they are attracted to a guy. And if they do, they'll be subtle about it, like just getting near him and making eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:49 PM
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You even said your self approaching is assault when it's not. A normal cold-approach isn't harassment, where you just introduce yourself and gauge how she feels about you. A cold-approach where you block her path, start to get really sexual when she's not interested, start touching her, etc. are harassment. I saw a pick-up artist video where he went up to a chick in a book store and just gave her a bear hug and wouldn't let her go. That's harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:46 PM
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I haven't done much cold approach myself, but I'd assume the odds would be better at something like a music festival than downtown on a business day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:41 PM
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I agree with your general idea that women want a man who is confident in himself and doesn't need her. On the other hand, what gets a lot of men to that level is having an abundance of options, success in the past, and a good social support network. If a guy has never got much attention from women and is isolated from his community it's going to be more difficult for him to think he's worth it. Probably making his situation worse, but still, you can't blame the poor for being a bit more desperat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:37 PM
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The biggest feminist I knew dated the tallest, biggest asshole bouncer I knew. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:30 AM
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The studies I’ve seen have women rating all lean men as most attractive, and very few women preferred the overweight muscular men, except for over anorexic skinny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:21 AM
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As a slightly sexually dimorphic species, we are mostly monogamous with some polygamy. So people are mostly inclined towards monogamy, but one man with multiple women also occurs somewhat often historically. One woman with many men is fairly rare. I think even though marriage has declined, monogamy hasn’t, couples are just cohabitating now.
/r/seduction27/10/21 01:05 AM
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I mean I could have slept with hot women when I was in a relationship but I chose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:48 PM
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That’s a pretty fucked mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:24 PM
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Yeah, I'd say you're a decent looking guy for sure.
/r/seduction24/10/21 04:18 AM
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I would say you're not ugly, you're fairly tall and have an athletic, lean look.
/r/seduction23/10/21 10:39 PM
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There's conflicted evidence for what women find sexually attractive in terms of behaviour. They seem to be attracted to dark triad personality traits and psychopathy to a degree: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Personality. However, higher status males tend to be much more cooperative than lower-status males. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28953938/ And the halo effect has been shown to make men more attractive, where they posed with a dog or did something kind for others: https://ww…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:30 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:33 PM
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I can’t say exactly what it’s like for young guys now, I’m 29. But back in school I got a girlfriend just by trying to spark up conversation and eventually asking her out on a date. I didn’t have one for a long time but that was due more to me being shy and out of shape. I am 6’0 and that helped, even back then though. I figure that some of the issue is dependent on dating apps increasing women’s power in the market, but some issues are evergreen: young guys are insecure and won’t ask out that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:54 PM
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It says on Google the unemployment rate is 6% https://tradingeconomics.com/philippines/unemployment-rate
/r/seduction20/10/21 03:55 AM
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Try Bumble BFF if you have that where you are.
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:27 PM
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He's very vague about actual, actionable information which I found odd Yeah, I got the same thing, he just seemed rude and wouldn't actually give me any advice. He's just out here being the mystical man on the mountain who has learned the secret to women and life.
/r/seduction19/10/21 12:33 AM
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Weight is based on age, there's a smaller proportion of overweight children/teens, but the overweight population goes up in the 20s and 30s. 22% of those aged 18-24 are obese vs. 45% 44-54
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:28 PM
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she said I want someone that isn't going to cheat on me, like is that so much to ask for. and I told her, yeah no one deserves that at all. Sounds like she has trust issues from a past experience, doesn't sound like you did anything wrong. Maybe better to start talking to other girls.
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:29 AM
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More introverted, generally, but it depends. I used to find super shy girls the most attractive, but as I got a little older I like women that can kind of handle themselves and contribute to a conversation. I still really, really dislike super loud annoying women though, but I don't really like those kind of guys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 03:06 AM
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country It's estimated at 30% worldwide. https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/11/1052041 Some national studies examining incidents in the United States show that up to 70 per cent of women have experienced physical and or sexual violence from an intimate partner, according to UN Women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault#United_States 19.3% of women have been victims of attempted (7.8%) or completed (11. 5%) rape during …
/r/AntiFeminists18/10/21 01:51 AM
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I had something kind of similar, was hanging out with a girl for a long time, we got pretty close, but took it really slow sexually, I finally got her into the bedroom and she definitely seemed like she enjoyed it, but she said she got confused and broke it off with me afterwards. I think it might be that she's scared of things getting too serious, and isn't ready for things to get real AKA a relationship. I don't think you're wrong to be confused, but if she wanted to be with you she'd make the…
/r/seduction18/10/21 12:04 AM
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It's probably because you framed it as "women aren't more oppressed than men" without taking into account all the ways that women do have it tougher. I'm not on board with everything feminism, but 1/3 of women are sexually abused, for example.
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/21 11:59 PM
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We're a social animal. Get some friends, keep up with family. If you rely on a woman for all of your social contact, you'll probably come off needy IMO.
/r/seduction17/10/21 05:07 PM
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that humans exhibit one of the widest disparity amongst mammals. Human sexual dimorphism is actually on the lower end compared to many other mammals. Human males are generally 10-20% taller than women, and have some sexual secondary characteristics like greater strength and body hair and a deeper voice, but this is not very extreme compared to Orangutans who grow much larger and have extreme face growth, or elephant seals which are much, much bigger than the females. Humans also are predominantl…
/r/AntiFeminists17/10/21 04:17 PM
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Actually Ted was known as being fairly creepy and off-putting to women generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:51 PM
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I agree, ideally, women should understand dating dynamics as men do. At the very least it should be common knowledge that dating is harder for men than it is for women, that should just be generally accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:21 AM
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Yes, I agree with this. I think humans are malleable, in as far as we can divert particular behavior in a certain path for certain goals. A person might like to move around and be active, but will sit at a computer for 8 hours to make money. People like to be social, but will be quiet while a movie plays at a theatre. I think much of human social organization is based on channeling certain behaviors in a certain direction. That doesn't change that people have an innate want towards those things.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:23 PM
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I'm 29 and I'm at about 5, but I was with one girl (on and off) for 11 years. Sex in a monogamous relationship seems much better to me IMO, you both get what each other likes (ideally) and know what really turns the other person on, plus you're more comfortable with them, so you're more willing to communicate and try stuff.
/r/seduction16/10/21 05:55 PM
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That sucks about cold approach, it gets hyped up so much in PUA circles. I've only cold approached about 5, but no success. Yeah, I'll work on improving my life in general. I've been reading a lot of positive psychology about the importance of relationships for happiness, so I'm working on being satisfied with my social circle regardless if I find someone. I'm more interested in getting a family and starting kids, but I'll keep plugging away until I find someone, I'm about the same age as you, 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:22 PM
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Culture is part of our evolution. Yes, you are right. What other animal is capable of networking events, buying bitcoin, watching Oprah, holding fish weighing competitions, etc. We are enormously complex, why wouldn't our mating preferences also be? No, they are not near universals. There is strong evidence and arguments that the male preference for younger women and the female preference for older men is biological in origin. Sorry, just because women still find George Clooney hot doesn’t mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:16 PM
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I mean, I like thin black/asian/middle-eastern women, my sexual preference isn't racist.
/r/AntiFeminists16/10/21 05:15 AM
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I get that. I'm a 6'0 white guy with an average face, not fit, but working on it. It's tough out there. I've gotten little success through Tinder, and basically every girl I match with is fat. Hinge seemed like it was okay for a while, I got a few conversations out of it which I probably could have transitioned to dates if my game was better (I've learned to be quicker in going from online conversation to dates). Also, I was just talking to a lot of women even if I wasn't attracted to them, just…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:02 AM
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How can we accurately judge that? Do we have a database of men who have done all these things and not seen any success? Some men, yeah, don't see success doing all these things, but when these things are generally seen as attractive by women, it's hard not to think they will result in some success for a lot of cases. I think it's up to the guy to at least try and see if they get some success out of it. I mean, this guy seems like he has some measure of success being a shorter, Asian guy. Of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:34 AM
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That’s why searching for biological essentialism in humans is pointless. It’s why we see polygamy, monogamy, polyandry, matriarchy, patriarchy, and all other matter of social sexual arrangements through out history. I think you have a strong argument that humans are very plastic and malleable in our social relationships. But do you not think that there are generalizations to our behavior? This is the classic split between the humanities/Marxist view that human behavior is entirely moldable, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 03:03 AM
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I think there's some evidence that women are instinctively more altruistic than men: https://news.yale.edu/2016/02/25/first-instinct-women-are-more-altruistic-men. But on the other hand, men are more cooperative in same-sex situations than women: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21910518/ And yeah, the worst people tend to be men, almost all serial killers and terrorists are men, men are biologically more violent than women. If we lived in a world where women had higher physical strength or whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:44 AM
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If you're below average when it comes to everything in your country, you can move to a country where you're above average. I did hear about a white incel who had a lot of luck moving to Southeast Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:36 AM
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How is someone in this position going to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and just become more successful in order to change their lifestyle to get this result? They have to want it, which comes down to psychological factors which are probably too complex to quantify. My brother, for example, doesn't really care about getting a girlfriend, and at 32 is (I believe) a virgin. I don't think he'll ever care enough about it to put in the effort required. Me, on the other hand, really hate the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:34 AM
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This comes up often here because so many incels here are fat too, go figure, and when I bring up, its calories in calories out, scientifically proven many times, I often get responses how its not their fault, etc etc, its this its that but its never them putting too much food in their mouths. I agree with this. If you haven't gotten lean, put on muscle, improved your style, networked with people, improved your job, and talked to lots of women, how can you really say that it's hopeless? I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:30 AM
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Biggest thing is social relationships. Even if you are too unattractive to ever find a partner, having a strong social network of friends and family will mean you will always have support and people to talk to, which can make life meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:28 AM
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As a fit guy, I've never dated a fit girl. Have you had any success with women? I'm interested in your perspective as a fit guy. I think fit girls are really in demand, but an "average" girl who doesn't go to the gym might give you a shot. I'm not super fit, but I've definitely gotten most of my female attention on dating apps from overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:27 AM
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That sounds a little bit like depression. Idk if there's an overlap there though. That could definitely be the case, could also be an economic/social thing. Upper-middle class men probably aren't as likely to be slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:21 AM
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I see where you are coming from, but that sounds like a particular strain of dumb early-20s liberal upper-middle class girl who is into feminism. There are a lot of women who are actually fairly decent and reasonable people, this just doesn't really apply to what gives them the tingles downstairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:20 AM
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Yeah, I guess if the discrepancy was really big, like he was a male model and I look super ugly then it might bother me, but if it's not a gigantic difference than I wouldn't really care. I assume most women I date have slept with other guys (although I'd prefer a reasonable number).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:18 AM
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They should, I believe a lot of obese women aren't satisfied with relationships and life because they are being ignored by the guys they want, get used for sex but not relationships, or have trouble keeping interest after a date. The stakes aren't as high for women though, they can be obese and someone will want them, it probably just won't be as big of a pool of attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:15 AM
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Right, but what's the equivalent here? Just keep applying for more jobs? Look for a different job? Move to a different place? Unfortunately, as is the same with the job market, there's a catch 22 in that you need experience to get experience, so if someone lacks the requirements, they might not have any luck there either, and the same is often true with dating. The main gist of it is that some people are lucky, some aren't. But if you aren't lucky, what choice do you have? Just starve? No, you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:14 AM
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I don't know what the balance is, but I wager to think that most men who put in no effort have never put in effort, never learned why it's important, and are so out of touch with reality that they just don't care. I'd say this is a big overlap with the guys who let their apartments/houses get disgusting (some of my friends, and me in the past).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:10 AM
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I think women can be very charitable and caring about big issues, it's just that attraction is so primal, it's hard for a woman to force herself to be attracted to someone she's not just because she thinks its the right thing to do. Similar to guys as well, just because you want to help someone economically doesn't mean you want to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:09 AM
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There's a study that shows Conservative people tend to be better looking than Liberals, and much better looking than 3rd-party candidates. This may be because having been treated better because of their looks, they believe more in the Just World fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:07 AM
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Generic advice does help most people. Telling a short, ugly, bald dude to get fit at the gym, improve his social skills, make more money/get a better job, and talk to a lot of women might not guarantee success but is certainly better than doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:00 AM
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So I don't get why everyone responds to people who are having dating troubles with the myth of the self-made man, in where they're fully and totally responsible for their own success or failure, and that they just need to keep trying harder to succeed, because it doesn't work that way. I agree with your general criticism of the boot-strap mentality, that any fault you have in dating is your own. This is an enormously unempathetic thing to say to someone. Just like with economic issues, I'd never…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:40 AM
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Yes, but social relationships being tied to health and happiness is one of the strongest conclusions in positive psychology with the most evidence to back it up cross-culturally. As well, the happiest countries are those with strong social safety nets and a greater emphasis on community well-being. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283087013_Close_Relationships_and_Happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:01 PM
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It really isn’t irrelevant and I explained why. Increased social connection will make these NEET guys happier, making them more likely to go after what they want in life, find women, and live positive lives. If you have a wide circle of friends and family and connections, it’s easier to find a mate. Especially vs. a guy who just spends time in his room and hangs out on 4chan.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:57 PM
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It’s not irrelevant, a lot of these people’s unhappiness stems from having social relationships, not just romantic ones. Plus building a social circle helps with meeting potential mates, and economic opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:42 PM
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They clearly aren’t overrated statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:41 PM
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Which ancient cultures? Polygamous societies are often more violent and chaotic, and there were more of them in the ancient world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:09 PM
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Lifestyles dont produce relationships, looks does. Romantic/sexual relationships, sure, but that's not the only problem these NEET kids have. They often don't even have platonic male friends or close ties with family. They are isolated, which isn't about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:08 PM
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Happiness is almost entirely dependent on social relationships, although happiness does go up with wealth. If you are rich, but have no real friends or family that really accept you, then you won't be as happy. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/04/over-nearly-80-years-harvard-study-has-been-showing-how-to-live-a-healthy-and-happy-life/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:07 PM
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The colonies grew, then suddenly new generations of mice quit being interested in mating, and the colony completely collapsed. If we are thinking of the same experiment, it was way more complicated than that. It's clear that the "utopia" they set up really wasn't well adapted to mice at all. I'd say it's an interesting experiment, but to apply it to humans is a broad jump. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-mouse-utopias-1960s-led-grim-predictions-humans-180954423/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:04 PM
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I mean, I'm not totally anti-feminist, but definitely don't find overweight women attractive and have turned down many overweight women...I think most men are the same. All of these women would be attractive (and healthier) if they lost weight.
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/21 01:57 PM
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I visited escorts twice before and the experience was terrible. It feels weird and wrong to pay someone to pretend to like you. I think it depends on how good of a job she does faking it. I visited a prostitute and it was absolutely terrible, but if her enthusiasm was like in some porn videos, then I probably would enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:51 AM
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As a 29 year old, I do agree that the extremes of sexual desire have gone down pretty consistently since my teen years. That being said, I still jerk off every day, and get distracted by nice lookin ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:49 AM
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They already admitted that some women do, the RP side claims all women are like that, which is a more specious claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:44 AM
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I mean, growing up I always found basically every woman that wasn't overweight as attractive. I don't know about other guys, but if a girl isn't fat, chances are at worst she's just plain, and even plain girls are attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:39 AM
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It really depends on the type of relationship. If you can find a partner who enjoys being with you and sees you as a catch, then that can be very rewarding. Like finding a dream job or career that you stick with for a long time. Divorce has gone down slightly since peaking in the 80s, I believe 1/4 of marriages end up in divorce, so you can potentially find someone to stick with you long term. This can provide a lot of benefits, like studies show married men are happier and healthier than unmarr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:42 PM
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I disagree with this stance, you could make the same argument about getting a job "who wants to go to university, and then have to network, and send out 300 resumes just for the chance at an entry level position", well, yeah it kind of sucks but if you want a job you're going to have to jump through hurdles. "Pussy is valuable, dick is cheap", women are always going to be the selectors, and they are always going to be able to be lazy as shit while men fall all over themselves for the chance to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:07 AM
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I think "husband material" is a guy who is attractive, just she has more options so she goes for them. They still prefer a masculine man for a long-term mate, just less so than for short-term. I guess an equivalent would be a guy who dates a pretty girl who is still hot, but would rather have a one-night stand with a hotter girl. https://incels.wiki/images/thumb/9/9d/Facial-sexual-dimorphism.jpg/500px-Facial-sexual-dimorphism.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:50 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/ https://bonytobeastly.com/most-attractive-male-body-survey-results/ Generally, the strongest/leanest guys are perceived as the most attractive, up to a certain point where you get into bodybuilder territory, and women have less of a preference for the extremely muscular men. So, at the very least if a guy is overweight he should lean out as much as possible and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:22 PM
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What you need to survive is heavily skewed by area. A good income in Oklahoma City and Topeka is different from a good income in New York and LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:16 PM
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That's really sad. Letting politics/social stuff tear apart your family is pretty low. If you love your grandpa you might talk to him about his actions, but accept him and try to keep the relationship healthy. And that goes for whatever political thing is important to you.
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/21 01:44 PM
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I think men are actually highly cooperative, seemingly moreso than women if studies are true. Men seem largely more willing to mend social divisions and cooperate with same-sex peers than women (ex: office cattiness), and are also more oriented to forming social relationships with many peers. That being said, men also don't share an in-group preference for other men the way that women do for other women, they just cooperate better in larger groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:59 AM
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It's kind of related to a principle of economics, that human demand is unlimited. If a person could poof into existence anything they wanted, they largely would: a trillion houses, a billion cars, etc. It's the same thing with male sexuality towards women, given the opportunity they'd sleep with almost every attractive woman on Earth. I remember as a teenager, my ultimate fantasy was that I got some magic item that would let me automatically sleep with any woman I talked to. The truth is that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:53 AM
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You said "she", when you were talking to me, a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:51 PM
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I'm suggesting is that she's full of shit and should stop crying wolf. I mean, a homeless guy yelling that he's 'excited' because of her and a random dude blocking her path both seem like harassment to me. Your argument is that these things are not sexual harassment? Your argument, I guess is that sexual harassment is only physical, I would assume. Is a guy pulling out his dick and stroking himself when he sees a woman sexual harassment? After all, he's not doing anything to her, and she can jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:51 PM
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and if men aren't up to the task of being the villainous goons women paint them as, then we gotta lower the bar. Are you talking to this one woman, or women everywhere? Why are you going out of your way to defend random men you don't know yelling at a woman? It's not like she said some guy at the supermarket came up to her and said "hello", she's talking about being out on the street and a homeless guy yelling at her and a guy blocking her path.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:31 PM
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Because she specifically said: I'm a guy. I'm 6'0 tall, so not super easily intimidated, but I don't like strange, homeless, possibly crazy men coming up to me for any reason when I'm going about my business. I would agree that men are more likely to get assaulted, that is true, which is why you should be on guard if random men start yelling at you. Why do you not see how a woman might be on guard in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:30 PM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Money One study showed that women orgasmed more with rich men. Another showed that a man becomes more attractive if he's photoshopped into a luxury hotel. Women are a lot more sensitive to economic cues than men, and their perception of a man is swayed by his wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:25 PM
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Make sure to balance our your blackpills with whitepills. https://www.nytimes.com/guides/well/how-to-be-happy https://www.becomingminimalist.com/happier/ https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-secret-to-happiness-heres-some-advice-from-the-longest-running-study-on-happiness-2017100512543 Even if you are kind of shitty at a hobby, you can improve. You're smart enough to use a computer and post on this forum, you can probably learn the basics of a new language like Deutsch or Espanol, some guitar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:24 PM
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Some of them did, some of them didn't. The ones who did said they were happier being invisible, even if they were less attractive. The ones who kept the weight off seemed like they had the mentality that negative attention comes with the territory of being attractive. That it's a drawback, but ultimately better to be attractive and healthy, even if you risk getting followed or approached by creepy men. Edit: Think of being attractive like being famous. It's probably really awesome to be famous, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I'd agree with that. There's always a guy who'll do something dangerous and stupid for money. Less women that would do it, in fact I think the vast majority of women wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:15 PM
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Sounds like an extremely unhealthy pass-time. Have you tried painting instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:13 PM
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You're looking at Reddit, it's a skewed perception. The majority of people on relationship subreddits are teenagers/early 20s. Relationships are more frivolous and disposable at that age anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:12 PM
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Yeah, I think that woman is attractive. Probably still a bit overweight, but I wouldn't complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:08 PM
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I'd like women to stop telling men to try, or that it's "nOT jUSt ABouT lOOKs." There are studies that back up non-appearance aspects of men as giving them an edge in dating: perceived social status, humor, and wealth. These are things you can improve, not to mention that if you haven't improved your appearance and fitness as much as you can then it's defeatist to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 08:07 PM
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There are women on the /r/loseit forum who talk about how losing weight made them get cat-called, stalked, and approached by strange men more often. This can be a good thing sometimes, but being invisible can be a blessing in a big city full of potentially dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:54 PM
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That is basically the advice guys get here, if she’s flaky she’s probably not into you, look for someone else.
/r/seduction11/10/21 02:13 PM
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Fixing your appearance is probably the best one. If you honestly don't like what you see in the mirror, take steps to change that. After all, if you want to be attracted to a girl, you should offer her something to be attracted towards her as well. I remember I was reading some seduction stuff about 6 months ago, but I look at pictures of myself then and think "well, it's not surprising I wasn't confident, I was very overweight". If you can honestly think that you are attractive, you won't feel …
/r/seduction11/10/21 04:20 AM
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One step at a time, that's all it takes. Little incremental improvements. Try to connect more with the friends/family you have. Ask questions. Don't expect the world to change over night.
/r/seduction11/10/21 04:17 AM
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She looks like a pretty average girl. I find average looking women attractive, yeah.
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/21 01:24 AM
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So, if you approach a girl and start talking to her and have a good conversation, my concern is whether I'm being too friendly, or whether I'm not being flirty enough. My gut tells me that if you are talking to a stranger in a random public place, you should just keep the interaction on a very friendly level so that you don't end up coming across as a creep. Does that make sense? Should I err on the side of just having a nice chat and then get her number after that?
/r/seduction11/10/21 01:09 AM
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Yeah, I think she looks cute
/r/AntiFeminists10/10/21 03:44 PM
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She’s pretty to me, but to each their own
/r/AntiFeminists10/10/21 03:43 PM
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Lol the downvotes speak volumes. "feminists get triggered so easily! By the way, there was an annoying attractive girl and now I can't function!"
/r/AntiFeminists10/10/21 03:26 PM
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So you are arguing that a small handful of men are violent/sexually abusive. I would agree with that. Your argument though overall is that women are more sexually perverse, so I would expect that there would be more cases of women who are serial rapists, lock men in their cellars. I agree that women also rape, but the evidence points to men committing 20x as much sexual assault as women. I would assume if men were less sexually perverse than women, this rate would be flipped, with women largely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:01 PM
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So you are saying that women do not experience an oxytocin bond with their partners in relationships? There's clear scientific evidence that women have an oxytocin bond in relationships, and that higher oxytocin levels predict higher satisfaction. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0265407514536294 High relationship quality, not distress, was associated with higher OT in both saliva and plasma at both time points. What would change your mind about women being unable to feel love for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:56 PM
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Strawman. It is not black and white of the culture having to be purely selfless or selfish. Okay, that's a more nuanced view. But your initial argument was that cultures eat themselves due to a lack of purpose, and that every culture that brought in women's rights saw decline. If we look at the US, are you saying that there was decline after the suffrage movement? Women's liberation in the 1960s? If you are arguing that, then you are saying that the culture was superior before that time. I broug…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:45 PM
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Do you think oxytocin doesn't effect women who fall in love with their husbands? By what mechanism do they fall in love with Chad, but not their boyfriends/husbands? Regardless, you said that women never desire men. So women don't desire Chad?Or I assume you put regular men and Chad in such vastly different categories that they can fall in love and be attracted to Chad, but be incapable of those feelings towards the men that fall short?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:53 AM
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Probably with kindness and empathy. Fat people, for example, don't usually respond well to being berated and shamed for the way they look. If someone close to me asked me for my honest opinion about their dating life, I would tell them. As I would expect people to give me honest feedback about the areas that I lack. If they are truly delusional about their sexual market value (300lbs shut-in NEET who is insufferable and uncharismatic), then they probably won't accept anything you have to say, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:56 AM
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If I don't have as much adoration (this is the word you're looking for - not "simp") for you as I did for my 16/19/22 crush, then yeah, you have good reason to be upset. As a 30-year old, I have to say that I don't think I can ever muster the admiration and unconditional love I had for the girl I had a crush on in junior high, or my longterm ex-girlfriend. I think a healthy relationship requires some maturity, and a woman shouldn't be upset that you aren't doe-eyed about them like you would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:52 AM
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Women have higher education in greater and greater numbers and are more and more are management in the work place, they don't need men's resources for survival anymore and the government supplies security. What would you say to the fact that women who have a higher education are more likely to marry, not less?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:45 AM
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How do you explain Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Catholic priests molesting boys? The fact that men consume porn more than women, catcall women more often, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:41 AM
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Women don't get turned on by abs, muscles, handsome men? Women don't enjoy having sex? Women don't fall in love with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:39 AM
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As soon as a culture loses it’s external purpose, people start becoming selfish and the culture starts eating themselves. At which point in, let's say, US culture people were not selfish? Was it the founding of the US when the presidents owned slaves? Later during the trail of tears, the civil war?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:32 AM
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I would agree with this list. If you are doing these things you will be attractive enough to get into and maintain a relationship as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:30 AM
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The fact you insinuate men who are not given access to women’s bodies will start stabbing children or lashing out unpredictability is just solid proof that men are unevolved creatures that shouldn’t be engaged with. I think sex is extremely powerful and dangerous for men, in a way that it isn't for women. But that being said, letting your lack of success in life cause you to destroy the lives of others is a horribly immoral act and not excusable. Nobody is forced by their biology to pick up a kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:29 AM
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I think generally having children is really difficult. You need more children in times of scarcity because they can be used for labor, and the growth of the family brings protection and potential status. But with greater education and a middle-class lifestyle, having children is more for bringing meaning into your life, rather than a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:21 AM
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I think it is partly down to online dating trends that give women much more options, that probably does have a strong influence. However, I think generally people are not as socially skilled as they were 40 years. The internet has generally delayed and hurt social skill development in a lot of people. It's greatly increased knowledge and connected culture strongly, but it's also caused massive anxiety and intellectual overload. I think social skills are skills and get developed over time through…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:13 AM
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I'm all for rehabilitation, but stabbing a child nine times is abominable, she should definitely go to jail.
/r/AntiFeminists09/10/21 05:21 PM
2

I'm fine with abortion, I don't consider it ending a life.
/r/AntiFeminists08/10/21 03:56 AM
1

It's kind of amazing how refreshed I feel throughout the day after putting more effort into my diet. I remember when I was breathing heavy going upstairs, I don't want to ever get back to that.
/r/seduction08/10/21 01:22 AM
8

You’re getting more positive interactions with people because of how you’re carrying yourself. I think this is partly it, but I really do think the halo effect of looking good is real. Fat women don't get a lot more attention when they start carrying themselves with confidence, same thing with dumpy overweight men. I think the confidence is real because you know you look good, rather than just trying to trick yourself into thinking you look good.
/r/seduction08/10/21 01:16 AM
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Yes, for those of us who manage somehow to cope with our mortality. The very meaninglessness of life forces man to create his own meaning. Children, of course, begin life with an untarnished sense of wonder, a capacity to experience total joy at something as simple as the greenness of a leaf; but as they grow older, the awareness of death and decay begins to impinge on their consciousness and subtly erode their joie de vivre, their idealism—and their assumption of immortality. As a child matures…
/r/seduction07/10/21 02:56 AM
1

Thanks dude, I appreciate it.
/r/seduction06/10/21 02:32 AM
6

Don't FDS girls argue to hold off on sex for 6 weeks? They'd probably have less STDs, I'd imagine.
/r/AntiFeminists06/10/21 12:31 AM
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You cannot choose to be a man, you cannot choose to be black or white or Asian But if you changed your appearance and voice to perfectly imitate an Asian or Black person, people would treat you like one.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/21 02:09 PM
2

You, as a man, bought into her negative emotional frame pretty hard here bud. Which means you actually failed her shit test and she probably would reject you. Agreeing with a woman doesn't mean I'm buying into her frame, and even if I was, I'm not going to change what I think is true just because a woman believes it. If a woman agreed with you, would you pretend you don't believe what you do just not to fit into her frame? Also, I'm not trying to get laid over a Reddit comment. couldn't it be ar…
/r/seduction03/10/21 02:45 PM
2

The first two sources you cite both allude to there being inherent genetic differences between men and women's emotional regulation. The human brain is malleable, so even if there are biological differences, they can be "overwritten" to some degree by cultural influences, so I'd assume cultural expressions of masculinity do play a large role, but that doesn't change that biological differences play a role. Even your second source argues that hormones may play a role in emotional regulation: Thir…
/r/seduction03/10/21 05:55 AM
1

Yeah, there's a sort of negative connotation to "dominant", I more mean engaged, on the ball, able to keep up. Dominant kind of implies a sort of asshole that's aggressive, but I more mean stuff like eye contact, able to tell stories and jokes, etc. I was debating using a different word.
/r/seduction02/10/21 11:22 PM
1

If you are telling the truth, I'm very sorry and it sounds like you've had a really hard life. I know that uglier people are stigmatized and made fun of, and bullying does happen. There's a 'halo effect' to beautiful people. I wish you'd post a pic so I could judge for myself, but I get why you wouldn't.
/r/seduction02/10/21 08:43 PM
2

That seems like a douchebaggy annoying thing to say to a stranger
/r/seduction02/10/21 04:45 PM
2

Donald Trump is polarizing. He has his personality. And you either love it or hate it. I think the key is that any kind of success or difference is polarizing. All political leaders are polarizing by their nature: Obama, Biden, Hillary, George Bush, Trudeau, Macron, Boris Johnson, etc. To lead and stand out is to polarize people, because you have their attention. Even genuinely great people you think everyone would love like Mr. Rogers can be polarizing. Stepping out of the crowd at any point ma…
/r/seduction02/10/21 04:41 PM
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Women do have it much easier in dating and getting sex, but a woman's life isn't a cake-walk. Also the pick-up community is just as liable to spread odd ideas, not as much anymore, but negging is a thing that most normal people see as manipulative and toxic. She often has to learn social skills just like anybody else, but there's evidence that women are generally biologically better at social skills than men (See The Female Brain).
/r/seduction02/10/21 04:30 PM
5

Silly self serving close minded narcissistic girl is OP. That's a bit harsh, I think she's right to find games and tips and tricks inauthentic and skeazy. I was in door-to-door sales, I get that there is psychology behind getting someone to buy a product, and that's not always a bad thing, but it can become manipulation, which people generally see as creepy. You aren't wrong about focusing both on the internal product and the marketing of it. There's an element of transactionality to all relatio…
/r/seduction02/10/21 04:26 PM
1

I’m not denying that some people are genetically ugly and I’m sorry for your experience with the teacher, but from my perspective it’s impossible to tell whether you are being honest about your own ugliness. A picture would let me know for sure, but I get not posting one. Some people have body dysmorphia and think they are hideous when they really aren’t.
/r/seduction02/10/21 06:17 AM
1

Would you be willing to post a face pic? I'm curious to know how disfigured you have to be to do 2000+ approaches and not see any results at all.
/r/seduction02/10/21 05:34 AM
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Believing that social interactions can be approached logically and deterministically. There is no magic formulas or pickup lines that work every time. I'm reminded of the guy that went to a girl at a bar and just kept barking at her like a dog, and eventually she went home with him. It also reminds me of when I was at a party as a teen, and the girls there dressed up one of my friends like a girl, then he got laid later that night. I think girls who like you will give you leeway and allow (some)…
/r/seduction02/10/21 05:22 AM
5

She's the worst representative of feminism, but I would wager most normal feminists would disagree with this.
/r/AntiFeminists01/10/21 12:33 AM
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The rule of the internet is you can't tell where the jokes stop and real opinions start. And the unfortunate rule is also that it doesn't matter what wildly bogus or crazy thing you say, someone on the internet probably believes it.
/r/AntiFeminists01/10/21 12:31 AM
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If you just read this article, you'd probably think "ah sounds good, just women trying to get the most out of dating", then you actually go to the forum and discover thousands of crazy bitches. I'm not opposed to FDS necessarily, if women want to find ways to get the best partner they can, then go for it, but it has the same problem some places in the manosphere have, where it ends up being a place of toxicity and hate. I actually do think FDS has some good advice for both men and women in it, i…
/r/AntiFeminists23/09/21 01:41 PM
1

He could have shitty female relatives.
/r/AntiFeminists22/09/21 12:13 AM
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Actually men are more likely to split when their spouse gets sick: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26315504/. And plenty of men leave their girlfriend/wife when they get pregnant. Your generalization about half the world's population is a mental shortcut that falls apart in reality. Plenty of women have been through a lot of shit for their husbands/families.
/r/AntiFeminists21/09/21 03:54 AM
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A jaded bitter woman could make the same argument about men.
/r/AntiFeminists21/09/21 02:07 AM
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This place is an echo chamber. They raise good points about some feminist hypocrisy, and then go full bore in the other direction and are unreasonable.
/r/AntiFeminists20/09/21 12:21 PM
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Men can also make generalizations about women being immoral, selfish, hateful, etc. The conclusion is to treat people as individuals rather than assuming the worst about half the population.
/r/AntiFeminists20/09/21 12:19 PM
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What? The person was saying people with different views are treated better in supposed 'hate' subs, I don't think they usually are.
/r/AntiFeminists19/09/21 09:18 PM
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It depends on the person, I've seen some comments here that seem to glorify incels and the natural inferiority of women. I'm not against critiquing mainstream feminism, but being an anti-feminist sub, you are going to get those kind of people. Just like feminist subs will get some "hate all men" women.
/r/AntiFeminists19/09/21 04:29 PM
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Yeah, sure you can get labeled a 'hate sub' by going against the pc narrative. But you can also be a hate sub by actually being full of hate. I think this sub has some reasonable takes, especially going by the top posts of all time, I agree with a lot of the hypocrisy shown. It's that you said people with a different view are treated better in "hate" subs, not really realizing that there have actually been a variety of hate subs where you definitely didn't get treated better for being a liberal …
/r/AntiFeminists19/09/21 04:26 PM
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Why would a woman want to be with a guy that hates her and thinks she's inherently evil? I'd rather be single than be with a woman that hates me.
/r/AntiFeminists19/09/21 03:47 PM
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Vs. arguing with white supremacists who think black people should be gassed, LGBT should be rounded up, and incels who think women are inherently evil? I've been banned from liberal subs, but don't glorify hate subs.
/r/AntiFeminists19/09/21 03:46 PM
3

Maybe I'll dress up like a clown, I foresee great success!
/r/seduction30/08/21 11:48 PM
1

Yeah, I probably need a bit more experience under my belt before I can say whether it's good or bad.
/r/seduction30/08/21 11:20 PM
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I have about 10 pounds to lose and could definitely get more money, but I've heard from other guys that sometimes they did their best when they were unemployed vs. when they had a good job. I think there's younger guys who obviously don't have money and yet still do good with girls, so I'm not sure that's the issue. I would say that I'm fairly confident in my life nowadays, not because of money or fitness, but because I'm happy and have family/friends/a hobby that I'm happy about. I don't know a…
/r/seduction30/08/21 11:19 PM
1

Not disagreeing with you, I hate to be that guy, but I had to.
/r/seduction30/08/21 10:30 PM
1

I do think that the mental pain of loneliness is a motivator for a person to seek out people to talk to.
/r/seduction30/08/21 10:10 PM
1

There's about 3.7 billion women in the world.
/r/seduction30/08/21 10:06 PM
2

Basically for all of my friends since high school we've all got more confident and social and relaxed over time, less weird and more socially dominant. I'm 29 now and after years and years of seeing what life has to offer, it becomes less surprising and interacting with others gets a lot easier.
/r/seduction30/08/21 10:02 PM
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As a 29 year old let me tell you that at 21 you have your whole life ahead of you. If you devoted the next year to being social and getting out of your comfort zone, you'd be in a great position at 22. You have no clue how much opportunity is ahead of you.
/r/seduction30/08/21 09:55 PM
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We're all mutable and changeable though. Just like you changed and developed into an incel, you can develop out of it, you just have to have more of those social experiences. It doesn't happen overnight, especially overcoming your negative mentality, but it can and will happen if you put in the effort.
/r/seduction30/08/21 09:47 PM
1

Face, I'd rather be Shrek but still my height
/r/seduction30/08/21 05:43 AM
1

I think the best improvement I've found so far is through actually have conversations with women and talking with them more. I think I'm more comfortable around women than I was 3 months or so ago when I first started getting more into it, because I put myself in more situations where I really talked to girls more. Especially being more comfortable in talking about sex-type stuff and relationships and being more authentic with what I think and feel.
/r/seduction29/08/21 09:14 PM
1

Yeah, reading seduction stuff definitely helped me see where I went wrong with my ex-girlfriend, particularly because I used to think I could let myself go and everything would be fine.
/r/seduction29/08/21 05:52 PM
1

Just getting the first word out will get it off your chest. These things don't seem so serious once you get them actually out there. It's not like you murdered someone and are confessing where you buried the body. Putting it into words will help you collect your thoughts.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:58 AM
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Yeah, I'll probably just say that "hey you look interesting, thought I'd say hi" when I cold approach next. I've been told not to say "you look cute" or something because it puts too much pressure on her and she probably already knows that's why you're talking to her.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:47 AM
4

Then you have to think of an interesting idea though...
/r/seduction22/08/21 06:16 AM
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Do you think it's this thing where people don't really believe compliments? Like self-esteem needs to be propped up constantly day-to-day through external validation and if you lose that, then you need to desperately seek it out. Unless a person has developed a deeper sense of self worth. Reminds me of being in sales, where when I got a success I felt on top of the world and I'd think "yeah I can sell stuff", but I've had a week of no sales and now feel like "shit, I'll never sell anything again…
/r/seduction22/08/21 06:14 AM
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It's tough, but you should probably stop hanging out with her if it's causing you too much anguish.
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:03 PM
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Sounds like a confusing mess, well we all have our stories of being hung up on someone that doesn't like us back. I pined after a girl for all of junior high, not sure if she was interested or not, I was just too scared to ever try and make a move even though I was deeply in love with her. And then there was my ex-girlfriend, who I tried to salvage the relationship when I should have just let her go gracefully when she lost feelings for me. Oh well, you live and learn. Best to not put all your e…
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:40 AM
3

Speaking your honest thoughts is a big one. Being unafraid to say what you really think and give your honest opinions, speaking up, eye contact.
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:26 AM
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I feel less needy now that I've developed a better social circle of family and friends and try to make friends at work, I'm not really sure how 'bad boys' brute force non-neediness. I guess it must just come from having high self-esteem and the confidence of knowing that they can get through any situation they find themselves in. Which is also coming for me with age.
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:23 AM
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It sounds like you probably shouldn't have been friends with her...that is odd if she would just spring that on you out of nowhere. Were you dating other girls at the time, or still trying to get with her?
/r/seduction21/08/21 05:11 AM
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That's kind of bittersweet. She obviously loved you as a friend, even if she had no romantic feelings for you.
/r/seduction21/08/21 04:43 AM
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It's similar to sales, I can tell pretty quick when someone outright doesn't want to listen to my pitch, other people are a gray area and are closed off but can be opened up after a while by talking to them, some others are totally into it from the get-go. It's the difference between red lights, yellow lights, and green lights. I don't have much experience cold approaching, but it seems similar.
/r/seduction21/08/21 03:36 AM
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Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm banging lots of dudes, and I'll never date you
/r/seduction21/08/21 03:27 AM
2

You were probably more intimidating because you were sober and less trashy
/r/seduction20/08/21 04:16 AM
2

Build a tightrope from your window to hers! Girls love that!
/r/seduction20/08/21 04:07 AM
5

Whenever I tried to implement "alpha" stuff, I always just ended up weirding people out or intimidating people. I think red pillers are more interested in being feared than attracting women.
/r/seduction20/08/21 04:04 AM
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I look at an “awkward small talk convo” as a chance to pick up the burden the other person feels, make conversation with forceful confidence and relieve them of the tension of carrying conversational burden. This is what good talk show hosts do, they make their guest feel comfortable and at ease by asking them questions, making comments, telling funny stories, being generally entertaining, etc. I've been watching a lot of clips of Craig Ferguson and he's great at leading a conversation in a way …
/r/seduction20/08/21 04:02 AM
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Hey, I'm also 29. If you've watched porn, then you've probably seen the "sexual side of a woman" thousands of times. The women in real life like all that stuff as well, minus some of the more extreme stuff. I'd recommend you make good friends with a girl or two, do you have any cousins that are girls you could spend time with or join a hobby group? And when I say "good friends", I mean becoming comfortable talking with girls like you would with guys, completely open and free without filtering yo…
/r/seduction20/08/21 03:51 AM
1

Love is related to oxytocin, it develops when a person becomes strongly attached to someone else. Romantic love doesn't have a lot to do with sex, although oxytocin is released after sex. Couples can be deeply in love but have a bad sex life, especially after many years. Usually love takes a while to develop in people as they become closer, bonding through repeated contact with one another. So if you date for a while the other person is more likely to fall in love with you, just because they've …
/r/seduction19/08/21 05:50 AM
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I think people often mirror others, which is why a person might normally be really shy/reserved, but then be really outgoing around their outgoing friend. Or the outgoing/extroverted person might have a deep conversation with someone that initiates it. Which can bring up the problem for some guys where a girl will be so innocent and sweet with them, but then have wild sex with some other guy, and they wonder how that happened. It's because the one guy was innocent/sweet himself, so she mirrored …
/r/seduction19/08/21 04:35 AM
1

Bipolar, and I'm fine normally but have had a few psychotic episodes that messed up my last relationship.
/r/seduction19/08/21 04:32 AM
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Forming new connections in the brain takes literal energy in the form of calories, especially overcoming the strong primal emotion of fear. So yes, doing something new requires work, but the brain will form pathways if you do something enough.
/r/seduction19/08/21 04:26 AM
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It's best to have a wide range of people you can rely on, so if you are feeling sad/worried you can consult your family/friends/etc. and not just put all that on the girl you are seeing.
/r/seduction19/08/21 04:13 AM
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I think there's a bit of two sides to it. The inner strength gives you the ability to be optimistic and see the good outcomes of your life, which can give you a more approachable and fun personality, but it's clear that appearance has an effect on people. I've been all over the map weight-wise, and it was just very tough to be confident when I was 30-40 pounds overweight, because I'd look in the mirror and think "damn, I really don't look very good". It's like a woman being obese, yes she can st…
/r/seduction19/08/21 03:55 AM
1

He seemed to have a very clear mind and was very good with words. I like his metaphor of cancer being like a reverse pregnancy. Weird way of seeing it.
/r/seduction19/08/21 03:51 AM
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This was an entertaining writeup. I agree that most incel neets can level up to become more interesting and attractive guys by starting to actually go out in the world and become less judgmental towards others. I've become a lot less judgmental towards people as I've gotten older and it's served me well, at least professionally and in my personal relationships. If you can start to see people as the imperfect, fun-loving, weird things that we are, you can start to enjoy random people a lot better…
/r/seduction19/08/21 03:43 AM
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I think a pivotal thing to remember is that the neediness you give off to certain women also turns off other guys as well. I've been that guy before who was overly attached to some of his friends (that weren't as into me), so I'd constantly want validation and love from them, and they wouldn't give it to me, so it constantly created this "chasing" dynamic. Being a little older and more mature, I don't really have the energy to obsess over anyone else. I'll try something with a girl, if she doesn…
/r/seduction18/08/21 05:18 AM
1

In sales it's best to get people's numbers rather than give out yours as well, because most people forget about you after the interaction, while you're busy thinking about that potential sale. I don't know for sure, but if you give a chick your number, she's probably just going to think "he was neat" and then forget about you by the end of the day; whereas if you have her number you'll probably be thinking about her all day.
/r/seduction17/08/21 04:45 AM
1

...which one?
/r/seduction17/08/21 04:42 AM
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I’ve always tried to have the attitude of, “I’m going to talk to her, have fun, and see where it goes if I like her.” This approach works really well for sales as well, not trying to force some kind of sale on a person who doesn't want it, but just having fun with the customer and seeing if something good comes out of it. When I'm focused on "gotta get a sale, gotta get a sale" I feel all anxious and it makes me awkward with customers, like I'm being needy, but if I just have a good time with th…
/r/seduction17/08/21 04:32 AM
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You have to trust the process and enjoy the small wins. You also have to get comfortable being uncomfortable. The truth is that you're probably going to look funny and embarrass yourself around girls trying different things that might seem uncomfortable and "not you". But slowly over time you will become more relaxed, interesting, charismatic, and happy around women. It just takes practice.
/r/seduction17/08/21 04:27 AM
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You do if you're drinking and driving
/r/seduction16/08/21 03:00 AM
1

Being totally agreeable can come off as kind of slimy and cowardly, if you are just pretending to be down with whatever they are talking about even if you don't believe any of it. Doesn't mean you have to trash other people, but points of contention are natural. Also, being kind of humorous and over the top with a disagreement can be fun as well.
/r/seduction16/08/21 01:46 AM
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i disagree I see what you did there.
/r/seduction16/08/21 01:44 AM
1

Yes, the comfort zone is stagnation. People think they want comfort, but if you stay there too long you just end up withering, we need to see new things, experience new things, talk to new people, put ourselves in uncomfortable positions, it's only then that we grow and adapt and become more capable and successful.
/r/seduction15/08/21 06:51 AM
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Jordan Peterson talks a lot about how our lives are all about putting order on chaos. I think that the more you do something chaotic, the more "order" you can put into it. Like the guy who starts winning more at poker, it seems random, but he's found a way to win. It's not like dating involves knife-wielding clowns that set you on fire with their mind...there is some semblance of order to it. You get better at going out there and making something cool happen even though you don't know exactly ho…
/r/seduction14/08/21 04:45 AM
1

Make sure to wipe down her seat too, girls love that
/r/seduction14/08/21 03:20 AM
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This is really great advice, thanks. Especially setting little goals, and the pain of not doing something becoming greater than the pain of doing something. I experienced this with my last job delivering packages for Amazon, where I realized that I'd rather change and do something exciting and social, so now I'm doing sales. I couldn't picture staying doing what I did for 40 years. It's the same way with girls, I can't picture staying the same way, scared of girls and having no clue about how to…
/r/seduction13/08/21 03:31 AM
1

What about the mall?
/r/seduction13/08/21 03:13 AM
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Fear/Excitement are crucially linked, living a life of no fear is also one of no excitement. It's kind of the devil's bargain we have, where if we want to live more exciting lives, we have to do scary stuff. But it is exhilarating!
/r/seduction12/08/21 05:37 AM
1

Best to just start approaching and talking to girls because it'll help you feel more comfortable later. Plus, you might be able to get girls even being overweight, or at least have good interactions with them.
/r/seduction09/08/21 04:42 AM
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Make an observation about them. "I like your ______", "oh, you look ______", etc.
/r/seduction09/08/21 04:06 AM
1

I don't really care either way, call yourself what you want.
/r/seduction09/08/21 04:05 AM
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I think this is about acting familiar with a girl, like how you'd act with a close friend, not afraid to make jokes or do stupid stuff.
/r/seduction09/08/21 03:38 AM
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Yeah, that's not a surprising result, but good for you for working up the courage to do it.
/r/seduction09/08/21 02:21 AM
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I mean, I'll enjoy myself regardless of what goes on, if I'm going out I'm going to try to have some kind of good interaction, even if it's not romantic. Mr.Tunisia was a cool dude, and I enjoyed talking to the spaced-out bar girl. But I'd still like to try to get a girl from a bar, never really did that before, I think it'd be fun, so I'm gonna keep working on doing that.
/r/seduction09/08/21 02:09 AM
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She left the bar shortly after I talked to the guy with some guy, could have been a boyfriend or some other dude, I'm not sure. In the future, I'm gonna stick with a girl like that and try to escalate and see where it goes, I thought later I could have tried to pull her to another bar or just tried to get her back to my place or something. I dunno, I've never pulled a girl from a bar before.
/r/seduction09/08/21 02:07 AM
1

Depends how you do it, I guess. If you go the Jimmy Fallon route and laugh at everything she says, then yes.
/r/seduction09/08/21 12:12 AM
1

Probably true. If I do talk to guys, I'll keep it shorter and exit so I can go talk to a girl.
/r/seduction09/08/21 12:11 AM
1

Nah, I talked to him later.
/r/seduction09/08/21 12:10 AM
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I was talking with a girl at the bar and she didn't seem super interested, but I heard "escalation is important" here, so I touched her on the shoulder and I saw her visibly shiver. I never felt like such a creep. You've got to warm people up, get them smiling and laughing and wanting to be around you first, and if they don't warm up around you, you have to let them go and definitely not force it, as that is creepy behavior.
/r/seduction08/08/21 07:12 PM
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Yes, you should be proud, it's pretty difficult to go out by yourself and kind of form social relationships in the moment without any background. Starting conversations didn't come to me naturally, I really had to work on it, it was very scary to try to start them at first (and still is sometimes). I would suggest making an observation about them. With the guy yesterday, I said "hey man how's it going, I like your watch" and he said "thanks" and started telling me how it's Swiss and actually che…
/r/seduction08/08/21 07:02 PM
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If it was in front of a store of people, I can see why you'd be hesitant, but honestly I'd say go for making a plan, worse comes to worst you could always just use the excuse that you were going to X location anyway and she can join if she wants.
/r/seduction08/08/21 06:41 PM
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I get that, going to a bar solo is daunting. Maybe try striking up a conversation with another solo guy, I've done that a few times and it can turn into a good convo that can make you more relaxed in the environment. It's a good branching off point.
/r/seduction08/08/21 06:32 PM
1

Also, it's just fun to talk with and look at random girls, doesn't matter what age you are. Having a sense of fun will make you more enjoyable to be around anyway. My dad is 61 and still chats with waitresses and stuff, and they almost always seem to like him.
/r/seduction08/08/21 06:31 PM
1

Vibe is real, and your social anxiety might be making you give off clues that you are nervous/unhappy/paranoid, etc. like darting eyes or blank expression for example. A guy who believes people might enjoy talking to him would probably be more extroverted and friendly, and get a better response from women. Maybe the way you are being nice is the issue as well, if you are doing it in a robotic way it can be off-putting, like an alien pretending to be a human without any emotion underneath. It's b…
/r/seduction08/08/21 04:07 AM
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I'd say the two are inter-twined, as getting better with dealing with women is a skill that improves yourself, and can also help you professionally and inter-personally with other women in your life like relatives. There's a lot of guys who are really successful materially, but not very good with women, so I'd say if you want to get better with women, then work on that skill. If you want to improve your life (which you should), then work on that.
/r/seduction08/08/21 04:03 AM
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I would think getting some successes would be the reinforcement. So maybe not purposely going out to be rejected, but facing 10 rejections and then getting an interested girl would be the reward. I think the incongruence between the thought "this rejection is going to kill me and end my life" and the reality of "the rejection was a little awkward, but mostly fine" could lead to a lowering of fear towards being rejected.
/r/seduction08/08/21 03:43 AM
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I'd agree with that, a lot of humor is finding novel and interesting insights, or breaking social taboos (which can be seen as dangerous and testing boundaries).
/r/seduction08/08/21 12:48 AM
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I disagree. I think the boundaries between profession and regular life are blurred. If you are a lawyer and argue cases for most of your day, chances are you are better at debating in your off-time. Just like a cop is probably more likely to be on someone's ass when they are off work. I'd assume a therapist can solve people's personal problems better, a comedian can make people laugh, and a salesman can smooth-talk people.
/r/seduction08/08/21 12:47 AM
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Try to smile and add some hand movements to when you talk, this will bring up your energy and get you out of a more serious mindset. I've been a very serious person for most of my life, but forcing the smiles/laugh even if its uncomfortable will start a feedback loop that makes you feel more lighthearted.
/r/seduction07/08/21 03:01 PM
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So true, it's almost a religious mentality of "if I suffer enough, I must be worthy". I had this attitude for a lot of my life and it made me miserable.
/r/seduction07/08/21 02:55 PM
0

What's your opener? I asked you once and you didn't answer. Like what's the first thing out of your mouth when you go up and talk to a girl?
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:32 AM
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It happens, on to the next girl.
/r/seduction07/08/21 05:31 AM
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There's three possible results: She doesn't like you: laugh it off, thank her, make a funny or lighthearted comment, leave on a high note. She's possibly interested in you: see the interaction as the chance to get to know somebody else, make a lighthearted comment or joke about her, try to enjoy getting to know someone genuinely, keep in mind that she could get interested. She does like you: jackpot! Enjoy that you found a receptive girl, have a good time and relax, you've got this.
/r/seduction07/08/21 04:59 AM
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There's a mix of good and bad advice here, and obviously a lot of younger immature guys, so some of their advice and opinions can lack subtlety. I wouldn't worry about starting a new sub.
/r/seduction07/08/21 04:31 AM
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It'll program you to not be worried as much about rejection, so the next approach will be easier.
/r/seduction07/08/21 04:28 AM
1

Interesting hearing a Somali perspective. Good job.
/r/seduction06/08/21 03:08 PM
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I thought "if I'm not going to ask out a girl now, I probably never will", so I finally did. I wish that I worked up the courage earlier in junior high/high school, but we all have our own path we're on.
/r/seduction06/08/21 02:58 PM
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If you live so far apart it's best to forget about her and focus on girls closer to you that you can actually be with. It's nice validation to be in an internet relationship, but you're missing out on having a romantic/sexual relationship which can only happen in person. Even if you keep talking her, check out and pursue other girls.
/r/seduction06/08/21 06:41 AM
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I'll be friends with a girl, while still admitting I'd sleep with them given the opportunity. It's not that difficult.
/r/seduction06/08/21 06:38 AM
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That's tough, because if you are a hedonistic partier, they might just not want to stick around with you, or maybe they will, it depends on the guy. You probably should just take your chances, try to get around those kind of guys social circles and one of them will approach you. Whether they will stick around is a gamble though, I'd say try to be an interesting conversationalist.
/r/seduction06/08/21 06:33 AM
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You're a decent looking guy, enough that that won't be an issue with women. If you are able to be successful at book-smarts stuff, then you can put that energy into learning social skills as well. I don't have aspergers, but have spent time improving my social skills and it has paid off. I'd suggest cold approaching strangers, having as many conversations as you can, so you can start to understand more how to go with the flow, make jokes, laugh at certain points, get along with people, etc.
/r/seduction06/08/21 04:18 AM
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Its the same thing with sales, if you think the product is shit, nobody is gonna want to buy it, you'll automatically assume that they won't. You have to believe in the product, so that you are coming from a space of offering value to somebody else, rather than thinking of the product as just a burden or a negative for someone else. It helps to get some positive sales where people actually want the product, just like how it's good to actually get some positive feedback from women to let you know…
/r/seduction06/08/21 03:59 AM
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I think cold approach is fine in a crowded area like a mall, grocery store, etc. but bad in places like an elevator or on an empty street where the woman doesn't have an exit. So, I don't think you should have been downvoted.
/r/seduction06/08/21 03:52 AM
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Just ask her something personal. Movies, music, travel, family, etc. There's probably no easy way to pivot from professional to personal, although you could also ask her where she wants to go in her career or what she wants to study, but if the end route is going on a date and getting laid, it's probably best to just dive in and ask her something more personal.
/r/seduction05/08/21 04:13 AM
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Making sure not to get needy in a longterm relationship is the hard part, but can be done easier if you make sure to prioritize lots of other people rather than just your partner. The neediness stems from seeing them as your safety blanket to go back to, and she's going to sense that from you and not like it.
/r/seduction04/08/21 03:09 PM
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There is a wall stopping you (for now): it's fear. But the thing with fear is that once we face it head on it vanishes. All you can do is try, what's the worst that can happen? She hates you and finds you disgusting and never wants to see you again! (that's literally the worst possible conclusion, except for maybe her killing you, which isn't going to happen). But the reality is probably going to be a lot more mundane and unexciting, she's not interested or she is.
/r/seduction04/08/21 06:25 AM
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Lots of girls out there.
/r/seduction04/08/21 06:17 AM
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What's your opener if you cold approach? I remember you left a comment where you said "hey, I thought you were cute and wanted to say hi" was bad.
/r/seduction04/08/21 06:15 AM
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It's really scary for some people to see reality for how it is, like finding out Santa Claus isn't real. No, you don't have a shot with that hot chick at work that shows no signs of interest in you, who cares, move on. I know about 10 years ago my one friend was really into pickup, and I used to be SO mad at him, because I thought he was such an asshole (granted, he did some shitty negging stuff with women), still he had success and I just could not understand it and would actively deny that it …
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:40 AM
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I'd suggest actually taking the smallest possible step forward. So if you see a girl you want to talk to and then are literally paralyzed, literally just take one step forward. That's it, just one step. It'll program you to be able to move forward for the next time. Like in social situations, literally taking one tiny adjustment can make you more extroverted, there are many stages from sitting frozen, to sitting relaxed, to making eye contact, to laughing at jokes, to interjecting one word respo…
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:36 AM
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Yeah, I don't see any other realistic way to get women than to actually go out there and talk to them. Unless there's some delivery service I'm not aware of.
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:28 AM
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Lol this made my night, good luck with your seed borther
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:23 AM
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Every day you don't ask her out, the more you're going to invest in it and blow it out of proporation, just do it right away and get on with it, she'll either reciprocate ("excellent!") or she won't ("...aww...fuck...oh well') and you'll get your answer and can move on with your life. In the mean time you exist in limbo, which is a very boring place to be. Approaching her will flex your initiative muscles and get you out there doing stuff and taking names, so even if she doesn't like you back, y…
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:14 AM
1

I played footsies with my chick, trying to get her feet without looking under the table and she really enjoyed it.
/r/seduction04/08/21 05:04 AM
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Think of it like this: you can approach them, then dip out if they respectfully if they don't like you. Don't drag the interaction out, or make them feel bad, or stick around for whatever reason, just say that you'd like to talk, if they reciprocate then keep going, if they don't want to, then say "thanks for your time, have a good day!" respectfully and carry on. Rejection rarely looks like a woman screaming "rapist!" or slapping you in the face, at worst it's a little awkward, which you can la…
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:58 AM
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Dive in the pool dude, you know why you're here.
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:54 AM
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Every day is a new opportunity, a new chance to go after the gold, to reach a little bit farther into the world, like you did as a kid, riding the dragon and chasing the lightning. Don't give up, keep on pushing it every day, you got this.
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:51 AM
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This is really great, I'm very proud of you. Women do generally respect men that have the balls to approach them respectfully.
/r/seduction04/08/21 04:49 AM
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Experience. How do you get better at driving a car? By driving one. The more you talk to girls you are attracted to, the easier it will get.
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:04 PM
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Eye contact, asking questions, try to make her laugh, observations about her clothes or what she likes
/r/seduction03/08/21 06:05 AM
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Lol good on you for approaching, but I wouldn't do it at the gym.
/r/seduction03/08/21 05:59 AM
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I tried it once, really didn't enjoy it. She was a hot milf, but the sex was...robotic, and she gave me a really shitty super fast handjob. I didn't even cum, I just left. Made me feel kind of dirty, to me the fun part of sex is her wanting to do it.
/r/seduction03/08/21 05:44 AM
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Exactly, if she thinks you solely rely on her, she'll grow to resent you. I had that problem with my ex-girlfriend. A guy relying only on one other girl means that he doesn't have options, that other girls don't like him. Just like guys want to be with a woman who other guys want to be with, a woman wants to be with a man that other women want. It might seem counter-intuitive, but if she thinks you can walk away easier, she'll be more attracted to you and think you are valuable (which you are mo…
/r/seduction03/08/21 05:36 AM
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She'll give you affection if she's sexually attracted to you, but if you become too sentimental she'll start to feel like your mother and you'll lose both the sex and the affection.
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:34 AM
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Good on you for working up the courage to do that, not sure what the dude has to think over though.
/r/seduction02/08/21 11:38 PM
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Do the same thing she does and actively game and talk to other girls in front of her It seems like a good idea to scan the room and check out other girls. Not to stare at them, but not to be enraptured by the date. Or when I catch her staring at other guys in front of me, I'll just be frank, smile, and say, "Aren't you a starving slut" lol This seems creepy as fuck to me.
/r/seduction02/08/21 11:32 PM
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Usually I think if I missed my opportunity the first time, it's not gonna work if I come back, but I might just give it a shot and see, after all why not?
/r/seduction02/08/21 06:23 PM
1

I'm finding lately that the best way to both seduce others and build rapport with them is to playfully test boundaries. So if you want to make friends with women you have to be comfortable with trying to get them to open up through jokes, asking questions, eye contact, physical touch, a push/pull in conversation. And for guys escalation is important because it builds attraction, but making friends requires escalation as well, that is getting the courage to invite somebody out to a show or to han…
/r/seduction02/08/21 07:09 AM
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I'd say start testing girls more, up the 'bad boy' factor a little bit, don't be afraid to be a little rebellious, make more eye contact, don't gleefully agree with everything they say and try to comfort them...girls are playing their own kind of game, and so they like a man who is aware of what they are doing and is willing to test them on it, rather than treat them like lovely innocent creatures.
/r/seduction01/08/21 07:07 AM
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I think it's important to be able to have fun even if nobody else is down for a good time. After all, that's what life is about, enjoying yourself, no sense waiting around for everybody else.
/r/seduction31/07/21 11:50 PM
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Even if you never make it in rap, never stop practicing it. Yes, people will laugh at you, because people will shit test you constantly. Push through it and keep thriving.
/r/seduction31/07/21 09:07 PM
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Seduction is all about pushing boundaries and motivating you out of your comfort zone. Women are the scariest thing in existence to many men, so if you can get over your fear of women, you can get past your fear of anything.
/r/seduction31/07/21 09:04 PM
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Unfortunately the honest truth is that all girls are the same, and none of them prefer the shy, quiet, emotional guy. They all prefer the "bad boy" sexually (or at least the dominant guy). I also had this problem, because I was in an 11-year relationship and stopped "gaming" her and lost her, turned out she wasn't different from other girls, lost respect for me. You live and learn. I'd suggest spreading out your emotional side with a lot of friends/family, rather than pouring it all on one girl …
/r/seduction31/07/21 04:24 AM
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I don't think there was any real way to flirt with this girl, she didn't seem in a receptive mood at all anyway, so the guy should have just bailed when he didn't get a reaction from her, rather than pushing his way through. He isn't owed her sexual interest, and you can't force attraction.
/r/seduction31/07/21 04:19 AM
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Feminism is fine in that women should be allowed to go for careers they want, shouldn't be held down by men they don't want to be with, shouldn't be abused, should be free to have sex with who they want. The problem is that she'll always want to date someone who has the upper-hand, it's in her nature. Which is fine, you just got to out-smart her and the competition into being that guy. Yeah, a lot of guys will be weeded out, but that's because they haven't peeked into how the game works, or woul…
/r/seduction31/07/21 04:07 AM
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Technique improves probability, but you still have to deal with the women who will never be with you, have boyfriends/husbands, etc.
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:56 AM
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I think people need to become comfortable with a woman judging the entirety of your existence as not good, and then not giving a fuck and moving on in general. Like getting used to some people just hating you completely, but not becoming depressed and giving up on life, powering through it and moving onto the next one.
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:53 AM
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Both are unreasonable fears.
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:42 AM
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It's all in your mind bro, every day you can rewire yourself from negative to positive. Push through like you're at war. You can make it, push through, take the world in your hands.
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:40 AM
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The best way to help someone is to give them advice on how to get out of their situation or improve it. That's why I really despise someone "understanding my situation" or something, I don't care if you understand, I want advice on how to improve so I can implement it and create a better future. But yeah, nobody cares, everyone is mostly out for themselves, so you best go after what you want, because nobody is going to do it for you. Nobody is going to drop girls off at your house for you and go…
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:38 AM
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Also in sales, and yes, the first few feel the weirdest and most uncomfortable. After a few you start to get into the flow and have more spontaneity and fun with it. Plus, there's the added intrigue of "is this a lead or not?"
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:33 AM
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Sales helps with rejection. Once you start doing it you realize that even if some people hate your product and some people are on the fence, there are those who actually are interested in what you are selling. It's a matter of separating the red lights from the yellow lights from the green lights. It gets easier the more you do it. Once you actually have some people interested in buying the product you are selling it actually proves to you that you can actually make it! It's the same thing with …
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:13 AM
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Sexual attraction for women is more based on behavior than looks. Also women could have been giving you hints that you never picked up on, like hair flipping and eye contact. Women are VERY subtle with sexual attraction. In general, improving your confidence and actually starting to talk to girls will help you more than anything.
/r/seduction31/07/21 03:07 AM
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But ofcourse I did what I normally do, I ignored it and went home alone (I hate myself for it. Definitely will regret that one forever). You're scared of making it reality. It's probably a nice ego boost that women are into you, but you are scared of taking any attraction to real life. It's all fear, the unknown. You don't know where the road is going, so you take the safe route. Take the dirt road, dude, go off the familiar highway into the unknown, that's where growth happens, that's where lif…
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:48 AM
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Women are attracted mostly to behavior, so a confident guy can pick up lots of girls in real life. On apps, women are like a drop of blood to a sea of sharks, even obese, ugly women have tons of men who want easy sex without putting in any effort (because every guy wants to sleep with lots of women). Dating apps are mostly garbage for men, and I don't use them anymore, I never had success with them except for meeting one hot girl that was interested, and another where the date didn't go anywhere…
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:27 AM
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Negging builds tension (good) but breaks rapport (bad). Better to build tension through eye contact and silence.
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:17 AM
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Stop being grumpy
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:11 AM
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It's never too late. You could be 65 and improve your game and become better with ladies. As long as you are willing to change. You can pretend that you have no potential if you want, and live with regrets, or start your journey forward now.
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:09 AM
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I came here with the intent to get women, and ended up discovering a lot about human psychology and how people actually operate in reality. I got a better job, hit the gym, make friends constantly, and women are much more interested in me now.
/r/seduction30/07/21 06:02 AM
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There's some chicks that tattoo a spade on them to show they only have sex with black guys, but yes you won't know right off the bat, that's why you have to risk awkward/weird in order to make eye contact, and see if she gives you signs of interest, if she doesn't, then move on, if she does, then you have an in.
/r/seduction29/07/21 05:01 AM
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Polarization is part of attraction, so this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Stop caring about the ones who hate you and go capitalize on the ones that love you.
/r/seduction29/07/21 04:42 AM
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You should develop a universally positive and determined mindset in general. It'll help you out in every part of life. Every moment spent getting a little bit better, more in control of yourself, more grateful, more relaxed.
/r/seduction29/07/21 04:37 AM
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Women select almost entirely on behavior. Assertiveness, ability to escalate, eye contact, etc. Doesn't matter if you have a cushy job on Wall Street if you have submissive body language and can't talk to women. Women will generally not have sex with a man who can handle less sexual tension than her. Our brain is still wired in a primal way for attraction, and so the behavioral cues that were attractive like fearlessness and dominant eye contact still attract women, because they portray dominanc…
/r/seduction29/07/21 04:35 AM
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Women are generally attracted to behavior. Here are the keys: eye contact, listening, physical escalation, and logistics to get them home. Everything else is fluff, they can tell you are afraid of them and therefore aren't attracted to you.
/r/seduction29/07/21 04:06 AM
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Right, it's why managers get so much shit from people a lot of the time. Yeah, because sometimes they are dicks, but also because people resent someone with more power and authority than them, especially someone who defies social norms. Like a lot of people look on pickup artists as scumbags, and yeah sometimes they are sleazy, but getting better at managing and dealing with social situations in order to get what you want is just part of life. Some of us just want to actually study it in depth a…
/r/seduction29/07/21 04:00 AM
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I don't believe in soul mates, but yes.
/r/seduction28/07/21 05:28 AM
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I'm not particularly attracted to smart, strong, independent, outgoing women, it's mostly if they are hot. But I certainly respect a woman like that.
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:53 AM
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Your friends may be "putting you in your place" every time you try to gain some confidence, which means they are crabs in the bucket. Women care a lot less about looks than men, they care mostly about behavior and confidence, so being bold will help you.
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:47 AM
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Forget about getting the girl you are approaching, she is just practice for the next one. The next one will go smoother than with her. Do it with her, and the next girl becomes so much easier.
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:46 AM
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basically you want a girl to either hate your guts or make her panties wet. That's how being polarizing works. You don't wanna strive for every girl just "liking" you, it's not enough to spark attraction. This isn't just true for women, but men will also fucking despise you if you start to have any success and confidence, throwing shit tests at you. Once I started being more bold and confident in my life I started to get a lot more angry reactions from guys as well. I guess when you act like a s…
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:41 AM
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That's pretty awesome actually. I'll keep this one in the back of my mind if I'm ever in this situation. Definitely not going to use it at the mall though. lol I admire your boldness.
/r/seduction28/07/21 03:32 AM
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Recognizing you are unhappy is the first step towards change, if you didn't know you were unhappy you would keep doing what you were doing, saving money instead of experiencing life. Now that you know you want more you can start to research how to branch out and try new things. That's why you're here, this is a positive step for you, believe it or not.
/r/seduction27/07/21 04:31 PM
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I'd say just stay away from gym approaches, unless it's near the entrance or something. If people are working out it's generally better to just leave them alone.
/r/seduction27/07/21 06:05 AM
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Probably a form of oneitis. I know that I used to just focus on one girl at a time, I'd always wonder in the back of my mind what she was doing and get sad when she stopped responding. Now I'm always actively trying to flirt with many girls, so I don't care as much if I lose one girl.
/r/seduction27/07/21 06:03 AM
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And I've said some absurd shit to women. Two nights ago in a pizza joint, 2 girls were with 3 dudes, and one of the girls was like (to one of the guys), "Do they have any whipped cream." And I said, "No. I got the last can, so I could lick it off your and your friend's titties." That was my opener. Jesus, that's bold and out there, how'd that one go?
/r/seduction27/07/21 04:09 AM
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I like the 50s analogy, because it makes perfect sense that a black guy approaching white women in the 50s would quite possibly get you beaten half to death, and doing this earlier than that led to things like lynchings (Emmitt Till, for instance, even though he probably didn't even really flirt with the white woman). There are open-minded women, but yeah, are they going to be with you because they like you, or just to tick off "slept with black guy" off of their list. The interesting thing from…
/r/seduction27/07/21 03:57 AM
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/r/seduction26/07/21 04:45 PM
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Yes, I'm internalizing a lot of this. I dress a lot better now, have tried to correct my posture, go to the gym more often, and have lost 23 pounds so far. I mostly see a girl like this as practice, although she seemed fun and nice, the truth is that any guy who gets hung up on a girl is going to come across needy and like he doesn't have options.
/r/seduction26/07/21 04:39 PM
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Yeah, that's understandable. I figured I didn't build enough attraction in the interaction anyway, but I thought I could try to build it up more after getting her out on a date. Maybe next time I'll try to see if the girl I'm working on will come to another venue, or try to physically escalate, which I didn't do. In the moment I was more just focused on playing it cool, making eye contact, and holding conversation, but I could probably up the attraction level by being unafraid to escalate a bit …
/r/seduction26/07/21 04:52 AM
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Yeah, I'm thinking maybe I should have asked her if she wanted to go see another show or something, that me and my cousin were going to after.
/r/seduction26/07/21 04:48 AM
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I've been thinking about your reply, and you are right, I am white and don't know what it's like to date or try to attract women as a black man. I'm not going to make crazy assumptions about it, but let's be honest, at the same time you don't know what it's like to date as a white man either, so there is a gulf between us for what we can possibly relate to. There are many white men who do terrible with women, most of my friends are white, some have had success with women, some haven't, I've know…
/r/seduction26/07/21 02:15 AM
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You have to figure out why you are talking to her anyway. For practice with other girls? Because you just enjoy talking with her? Because you want to take it to the next level? If she's flirting with you it might be for validation or because she wants to leave her boyfriend or have a hookup. So it's up to you how far you want to push things.
/r/seduction25/07/21 07:06 PM
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You are right that eye contact doesn't automatically get a woman attracted to you, but it is a form of escalation, compared especially to men who avert their gaze and are afraid to make eye contact. You are right that it is not the end-all be-all, but it's far more likely to create an "it's on" moment than not looking at her in the eyes. Women find confidence attractive, and it takes confidence to look at someone in the eyes, generally.
/r/seduction24/07/21 09:14 PM
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You have to calibrate yourself to the situation, so if a girl is hesitant about black guys or thinks you are going to be too sexually aggressive, then it's better to pull it back and be chill. I think there is a lot of black guys in the States who come from a more aggressive culture, so they might overwhelm women, or have that attitude of like they are attacking women with their sexuality, instead of being smooth and playing the game. I really don't think race plays as much of a part as you thin…
/r/seduction24/07/21 09:09 PM
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Good luck with your game, man.
/r/seduction24/07/21 04:41 PM
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Even if some of the elements are a little too extreme for some people, I can't ignore what I'm seeing with my own eyes when I go out. In general I'm getting a better sense of what people are feeling in a certain moment and even how satisfied they are with their life in general. There's a great seduction book series, Sixty Years of Challenge that talks a lot about this kind of stuff. I think this is why stuff like Elvis moving his hips electrified America, or Rap music was demonized, or why Musli…
/r/seduction24/07/21 04:29 PM
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Which part of it is too black and white?
/r/seduction24/07/21 04:14 PM
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The truth is that women will say "I only date ___ guys", but if any man approaches them with strong eye contact and body language, they will probably get turned on, and then might get angry at you for having turned them on because they aren't supposed to feel that. Luckily, a girl might only date white guys, but she'll have a fun night with a Black, Asian, Indian, etc. guy if she can get away with it. Women's dating preferences are mostly for boyfriend/husband and status, but they will sleep wit…
/r/seduction24/07/21 04:10 PM
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There's a time and a place and you have to be sensitive to their situation. Like if I'm going through the drive-thru, I'll try to talk to a woman or man, ask them how they are doing. If they don't respond or something, I'm not going to push the interaction. Women are distrustful of pushy men who are going to aggressively come at them, which men do. They generally like when a guy approaches them in a chill and authentic way though, doesn't matter if you are a 5/10, you really have to get out of t…
/r/seduction24/07/21 04:04 PM
3

No, casual sex was looked down on much more than nowadays. Sex out of wedlock was a big deal and could cause extreme shame for a woman's family if people found out. Much more of the population went to church. Elvis caused a social panic just by wiggling his hips. Times are extremely different now. Men could be more brash and authoritative, and women were expected to be women rather than basically men (as feminism seems to paint them a lot of the time), which was a positive, but I don't think the…
/r/seduction24/07/21 06:52 AM
1

It's not like game was easier in the 50s when everyone was so innocent and got married in high school. If anything feminism has led to more sexual liberalism, so women can have sex with strange men without being thrown out of their communities.
/r/seduction24/07/21 06:23 AM
2

Honestly, maintaining eye contact is essential, because that's how sexual tension starts. You have to risk making it awkward/weird in order to get her into you. If she doesn't like you, she'll break eye contact and try to leave, but if she likes you she'll blush, react angrily or fearfully because you are pushing her, etc. Like a girl at the store did when I was talking to her, she even dropped the receipt before passing it to me, but I'm still a somewhat beginner myself and have never escalated…
/r/seduction23/07/21 10:19 PM
1

I assume you mean non-monogamous? I believe any future long-term relationship I have will have to be open or at least give me the opportunity to seduce and flirt with other girls. A man without the ability to seduce women becomes very unattractive in a long-term relationship and a woman will become bored and resentful towards him.
/r/seduction22/07/21 05:10 PM
5

If you stop gaming your wife/girlfriend, she will lose respect and attraction for you. Thinking "she's not like other girls" or "she loves me too much, I don't need to act in that way" will only have negative outcomes, from personal experience. And funny enough, when you lose her respect/attraction, you lose the love you wanted from her anyway.
/r/seduction22/07/21 05:07 PM
1

If you realize X,Y, and Z behaviors universally net you a negative reaction from people, is it inauthentic and fake to stop doing them? Going from toddlers to little children, most of us learned to stop whining and screaming when we didn't get our way, because we realized that other people treated us like little children and with disrespect when we did that. Most of your, and my, current behavior was forged through thousands of interactions with our family and friends and strangers. If you becom…
/r/seduction22/07/21 05:03 PM
1

If you are, be goofy with the guys, but seductive with her. Don't be a clown for a girl, but if she sees you being social it can be a positive.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:55 PM
2

You have to risk awkward/weird in order to try to seduce a girl, that's just the way it goes. You shoot your shot and put yourself out there, and if she rejects you, then move on. Especially if you're a server at a restaurant, start looking at the other chicks that come in and start thinking of talking to them as well (not that you should ask them out at work). But not fixating on this one girl will probably make you more attractive to her as well. But escalation is key, make eye contact, ask he…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:52 PM
3

I think if she was laughing and smiling that's a good sign. But yeah, she's just practice for the next one. Now that you talked to her once, it'll be easier next time, but don't get hung up on just her.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:49 PM
2

I think you could probably up the seductive vibe a bit, maybe it would help more. I don't have a lot of experience cold approaching, but eye contact, physical proximity and getting her to do the talking is good. Also, I'm not sure if the smiling and joking too much is good, it can be kind of supplicating behavior if you are doing it too much, but it depends on how you do it. I don't think it's best to be a clown for the girl either, when the vibe is the most important thing. But yeah, if she has…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:43 PM
4

In seduction, an overly negative attitude would be a "red light" that means you should stop pursuing that girl as she is more trouble than she is worth, when there are other girls who are more positive and friendly. If you are stuck at a party or something, you could just try and have an honest conversation with her and get her to open up about her fears and that might make her relax and loosen up a bit. Women will try to bait you into breaking rapport, not all of them, but this type of woman es…
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:38 PM
1

Women are almost entirely attracted to behavior, not looks. The problem is that you are afraid of making a move, and they can sense that. Try eye contact, asking them questions, breaking the touch barrier, and then getting her phone number or arranging for her to meet you at your place. The man has to lead the whole interaction from start to finish, otherwise the girl loses interest. Doesn't matter how hot the guy is (although that will get her more interested in you initially).
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:29 PM
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I was iffy on #3, but lean towards that. If the girl is capable of being seduced by a guy, then somebody is probably going to do it. Unfortunately (or fortunately) the nature of the game is that most women in relationships still respond with attraction to men who escalate with them, it's just that most have the good sense to remind themselves they are married/have a boyfriend and stop themselves. But honestly if a girl had a boyfriend/husband and still was DTF I'd probably go for it, although I …
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:27 PM
1

In the book "Sixty Years of Challenge", he talks about how this type of girl might do basically everything: kissing, grinding on you, etc. but if you try to get her to caress your hand, she will recoil because that's a thing that couples do, and she doesn't actually feel a connection to you.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:21 PM
3

"compatibility" isn't really all that important when it comes to attraction. Women simply do respond to certain behavioral cues, regardless of whether you both like sunsets or LOTR or something. A compatible girl, in my opinion, should be one who is open to conversation with you and not crazy, I don't think there's much more than that.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:19 PM
3

Most of women's cues for attraction are based on behavior. That's why even really hot rich guys can't always get laid, while short poor middle-aged guys can.
/r/seduction22/07/21 04:01 AM
1

I don't think it's treating them "lowly" like how a brutal king would see a groveling subject or something, which you are alluding to. But moreso seeing how far they are willing to take the interaction, while being willing to walk away at any point if its not going how you want it to. A lot of guys will get all caught up in a girl and put up with endless garbage for the chance at her affection, but a more attractive vibe is like "I'll take this however far you want to, but I'm out if you aren't …
/r/seduction22/07/21 03:51 AM
24

Practice good oral game and add a vinger inside her while your at it after a few minutes. Just for the record, vinegar should stay away from a vagina.
/r/seduction14/07/21 04:00 AM
2

Dating as a skillset is something that took a while for me to understand. I'm realizing now that I can definitely improve my game, but that it takes repetitive action, determination, and bravery. Every approach to a girl or attempt to take things further is me developing my skills into that behavior being automatic.
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:00 PM
3

The best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago, the second best time is today. Keep making baby steps, fail forward, 2 steps forward and 1 step backwards. You'll be shocked at how much you can grow. Social skills are just that, 'skills', and if you are smart enough to get an engineering degree, you are smart enough to learn jokes, interesting conversations, put yourself out there, and get connected with people. Good luck.
/r/seduction17/06/21 10:58 PM
5

Yeah, you're probably right. When you talked with a girl and you felt like there was a connection, did you then ask for her number? That sounds like a kind of autistic question that I already know the answer to, I'm just not used to putting myself out there with strangers so much, I was in a relationship for 11 years.
/r/seduction17/06/21 10:26 PM
16

So, how did you sift through those 50 girls? Online dating? Cold approaching? I'm a bit older at 29 and struggling a bit to know where to meet girls. I'm a bit more hesitant about cold approaching because I could end up hitting on girls who are too young.
/r/seduction17/06/21 09:40 PM
3

I can see waiting until a girl is attached or in love with you before you show her your "true self". My "true self" probably has a lot of weird stuff that I wouldn't show someone who I have a casual connection to. If that works for them, then right on.
/r/seduction30/05/20 05:30 PM
2

They're about equal. The left one looks more waifish which is hot, the one on the right looks more fit which is hot...doesn't really change it much
/r/seduction08/05/20 10:22 PM
4

I think that's more of an opinion than a fact. Personally I find too much muscle on a girl to be a turnoff.
/r/seduction08/05/20 08:39 PM
18

I'd just add that appearance plays a major role in what women select for, but that "dominance" can override appearance for a man. Like in nature, the fiercer/more competitive animal will rise up the dominance hierarchy over stronger animals because they actively fight for and maintain territory. In other words, a shy 6'4" chad may lose out compared to the 5'10" fierce and aggressive guy, especially when we bring money and weapons into the picture. At least anecdotally schlubby bad boys can get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:08 PM
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This place is always going to be filled with a cycle of young guys, and they are always going to need a mentor, especially in the society we all live in
/r/seduction17/04/20 04:00 AM
25

What a weird sub. These women aren't wrong about some shit like men not putting in the effort sometimes, but it's got that typical insecure Redditer problem of dropping the banhammer when someone disagrees even slightly.
/r/seduction17/04/20 03:51 AM
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