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the real dogpillBright_Itempas/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:54 PM
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The word you're looking for is "servant."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:12 PM
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I've lived all over this country. California, New England, Northwest. This isn't a universal brown girl issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:38 PM
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I'm a brown woman from Texas and have never had any issues with men not approaching me when I'm sitting at a bar. It happened when I was 20, and it happens now that I'm over 30. Your friend is just unattractive at worst or cold/standoffish at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:59 AM
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I didn't say married people are more mature. I don't look down on single people. Your comment is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:28 PM
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I think this speaks a lot about the "box" your friends put you in based off how you engage with them and what you like doing. It's not uncommon for married people to stop seeing single friends as often when the single friends want to spend their time doing single people things. The couple ages out of bar hopping, late nights gambling, bro's and girls vacations to Vegas, etc. That's even aside the single friends obviously feeling awkward about being "the third wheel" or "the fifth wheel," which h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:15 PM
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I got a rhinoplasty this year, in part for cosmetic purposes. I also started Xeomin, which is a more mild form of Botox. I'm married, so not dating, but the nose job alone has brought me a tremendous amount of peace. It's difficult to express how much brain space my nose occupied - it affected the way I smiled, the way I laughed, the way I was able to let go during sex. I was hyperaware of it and of cameras and phones, so that no one would catch me at a bad angle. I have huge chunks of my teen y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:00 PM
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Yeah, those women should stop bitching, too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:07 PM
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You could join the military now, if you qualify. They're accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:10 PM
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Do you not like being touched casually by men you're flirting with? Some people are touch-avoidant, so it's fine if you don't. It doesn't mean that men are wrong to do it when they're flirting with women, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:55 PM
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In that case, it's especially unsurprising that a woman who considered you her friend shot her shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:41 PM
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It's so weirdly hysterical that you take it personally that ugly, old fat women make a pass at you. Women can't exist without ugly, old fat men hollering at us, either. That's just life, man. People shoot their shot when they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:41 AM
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Ideally, in a good loving relationship, you shouldn't really have those hard boundaries. Yep, and this is a rapey sentiment. Like what the fuck, really? Fuck those boundaries basically. Also rapey. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:15 PM
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My point isn't extreme at all. I'm not saying boundaries are sacred, nor am I saying that boundaries can't change or shift with time and experience. I'm saying that pushing through explicit and stated sexual boundaries is rapey - and it is. Telling someone they need therapy because they refuse to cowtow to your sexual whims is weird sex negative shaming - and it's rapey, because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:24 PM
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Yes, I know. I mean it that way. You're the one who's taking sex positivity to mean that your partner has to disregard their sexual boundaries so that they can "try their best to accommodate" your sexual whims.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:31 PM
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No, that's not sex positivity. That's "good game and giving," maybe, but it implies nothing about accommodating sexual acts and behaviors that are violate one's boundaries. It's mighty convenient when people use "people should understand sex is natural and normal and not feel shame when exploring it with mutually respectful and consenting parties" to mean "my sexual whims and desires should be catered to, what my partner wants be damned."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:45 PM
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This reaction to women asserting sexual boundaries in rapey as Hell. Sex positivity means respecting people's sexual interests, which includes respecting their boundaries and consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:56 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but based off the comment history, that's most assuredly a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:18 AM
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Three quarters of men in the US are overweight. Are you saying these men aren't going to LTR a fat woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:36 PM
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So what changes from the beginning when she was ready to go 24/7 to needing you to be Christian fucking Grey? Orgasms. The difference between "being ready for a quicky" and "the amount of foreplay" women need is orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:50 PM
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That's a lot of words for still not answering the original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 08:10 PM
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You think unattractive women are more likely to want to reproduce with you despite you being seemingly poor? How's that assumption working out for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:05 PM
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This doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:02 PM
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I'd place my spouse at the top 20-30%, depending on the region in the US. He's also the most objectively attractive man I've been with. My range is usually top 40% for men, top 60% for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 10:34 PM
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If at the supermarket: I walk by/around him, looking at/for my groceries. Does he notice me in a way I can read as interest? If no, I do nothing. If yes: I put myself in proximity (say, he's at the canned tomatoes, so I pause there and peruse) If he looks again, eye contact and smile. I might comment on tomatoes ("do you think it's worth the extra 50 cents for San Marzano?"). This is bad girlgame, but I strike up conversations with strangers all the time, so I don't care. I've only done this may…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:33 PM
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What government programs exist for abused girls but not abused boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:09 AM
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I promise you, your Spanish teachers didn't teach you this. In Spanish, the gendering of words doesn't depend on the speaker; it depends on the gender of the object/person being referred to. Oh, and tenedora doesn't mean fork. Tenedora is the feminine form of someone who owns something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 08:01 PM
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That's literally not how Spanish works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:30 PM
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Women in UFC, sports, the military are made fun of by men. Men don't respect strong women the way they do strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 01:43 AM
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Men don't LIKE to pay and flex. Some men do, though. It makes them feel masculine and in charge. It's insulting if she offers to pay for herself, much less pay for him. They'll insist, even if she insists and assures him she's going back to his place. Gender roles like this are absolutely prisons for plenty, or even many. But enough men enjoy the roles enough that it comes out in dating, not just marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 12:51 AM
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Wow, Suicide Silence. I haven't heard that name in forever. You have great taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 08:17 AM
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It was like partying. Lots of alcohol, drugs, dancing, drinking games. Some parties, people were in various stages of undress. Most parties had separate partying spaces, so people had their choice of anything from playing beer pong or foosball, sitting around passing the bong, or dancing. Most of this was in college for me - fraternity parties and house parties. Partying in high school and post-college were mostly smaller house parties, with some exceptions (regional burns, large house parties, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:07 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:50 PM
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. When we ask people their education level in surveys, they indicate their highest degree completed. When we say that people by and large marry along the same education level, we are referring to highest degree completed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:40 PM
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No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:38 PM
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I'm not "pretending" anything or making any claims about difficulty or value. I'm saying they are the same education level, which they objectively are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 08:00 PM
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People tend to marry at their education level. Education level, yes. A STEM bachelors is the same education level as a degree in education + early childhood development.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:50 PM
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My partner's happiness is very important to me, and I work weekly if not daily to cultivate a life that contributes to their happiness. This has always been the case for me since I first started dating at all. The question of sacrifice gets a little dicey. How much sacrifice is really ever required in a good, compatible relationship? How much sacrifice should I make before I understand that we ultimately don't mesh well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:48 PM
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Am I in love with Man 1? Or does this scenario assume that women can't love betas, as per usual PPD bait and switch?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:43 AM
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Except, according to TRP, a woman's attraction means she gives the man what he wants. The man is the frame, the bottle. She is the water that fills it. You're mistakenly thinking that her attraction to you means she stays in another man's frame and gives you what her ex wanted. That's not how sexual relationships work most of the time. If you want it, and she is attracted enough to you, she will give it. But it depends on YOU wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:27 PM
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No, it doesn't come naturally lol. She gave it because her ex wanted it, and you expect her to apply and actively think about what her ex liked in order to please you. It's like you're cucking yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:08 PM
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Except if she does everything you want, you'd still leave her, because you expect her to magically know she should spontaneously give you what her ex wanted from her. You are basing your desires on what another man wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 10:04 PM
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So, to recap: your sexual interests are predicated on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:57 PM
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You just bring it up. It's really not that difficult, though if you experience a lot of shame about it, it's probably uncomfortable. When I was dating, it was common to discuss fantasies and sexual interests within the first 3 months of dating. If she's not someone you can do this with, then she's probably not sexually open to begin with, which in case you can't ever expect her to be. You just have to choose what is more important to you - kinky sex or her sexual conservativeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:44 PM
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It's been years since I've read Butler, so can you give me a refresher? What is Butler's definition of objectification and how does it differ from the one given above?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:24 PM
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I think men are as nuanced as women here. Many men, like women, treat relationship-worthy partners better. Many men don't - the wives are relegated as the "old ball and chain," restricting their freedom, no longer sexually exciting. The women are viewed only as mothers, as obligation, as responsibility, expectations. These men will grow resentful and that will play out in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:30 PM
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Men have one mode of attraction to women. They treat women they are attracted to relatively homogenously. This doesn't bear out in reality. Men, like women, treat the people they have sex with and enter relationships with differently based off several factors, including but not limited to Her SMV How attracted he is to her How she allows him to treat her Whether he wants to impress her Otherwise, men wouldn't describe their behavior as dumpster diving and pumping&dumping. Men of PPD wouldn't swe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 08:34 PM
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I was 11 the first time I was followed down the street by an adult man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:46 AM
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Sure. I don't know what that has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 09:07 PM
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I was speaking generally, not to say that 100% of all people - men ,women, whatever - want this. It's no surprising that people who have not experienced romantic love don't know what it is. That doesn't mean they can't or don't want it. I don't believe anyone can teach love outside from the actual experience of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:58 PM
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And I could say that "billions" of women worldwide have learned the hard way that men don't want love, they want an adolescent fuckhole that they can use and abuse until the next pretty young thing comes by. They don't even consider women to be human beings - merely warm bodies to get their dick wet and validate their biological need to rape and pillage. Sadly, women's desperate desire to find a man who gives a fuck for THEM as human beings and not just fuckholes will lead them to serve a man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:49 PM
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TLDR: "I think men are weak and don't know how to maintain boundaries after a break-up."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:43 PM
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Yes, there are women out there who sometimes hurt people on purpose. I don't know what "burn" you think this is, but it really doesn't stick at all. Good luck on healing from your 40 year old pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:41 PM
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Yeah idk and dc about your specific scenario. I second the advice to see a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:43 AM
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Your pain hasn't lessened in 40 years? Really?? I'm sorry, I can't relate to this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:41 AM
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Women are human beings. Like men, what women want is to love and be loved. Like men, we hurt others sometimes - sometimes on purpose, but usually on accident, because humans are easy to hurt. But being hurt isn't the end of the world. The hurt fades.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:08 AM
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Well, I specified outdoor group activity, not exercise. Since you specified exercise, I'm now specifying ALSO exercise. Agreed re nutrition Considering the rise of male eating disorders courtesy of social media, I'd say that men aren't getting a self esteem boost at all. And I've seen enough 16 yos in incel spaces or 19 yos getting jaded from the tales of old divorced men (jaded without any of the fun! which I absolutely believe harms their desire to put themselves out there - standard courting …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 05:54 PM
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For health and fitness, we'd be better off promoting general physical activity and not gymnastics. Gymnastics when starting young has a history of really damaging bodies. You also somehow don't seem too concerned with male obesity. 3/4 men in the US are obese, compared with 2/3 of women. Do you also suggest gymnastics for men? Maybe boxing? MMA? Your last bit about self esteem can also apply to men wrt social media poisoning, so let's compromise and I'll bump my "limited internet for boys under …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 05:23 PM
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I don't believe we need a global solution. I believe the incel problem is attributed to the fact that 75% suffer from extreme anxiety and depression. A large number also have no IRL friends. These things matter significantly in dating, and they can be addressed by proper socialization and limiting young boys' access to spaces online that don't contribute to their mental, psychological, social, and physical growth. Besides which, if hypergamy is an irrefutable natural drive that no woman can deny…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:10 PM
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What's your social-good argument in favor of gymnastics? Why limit internet usage until the age of 21?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:05 PM
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For men: Mandatory group outdoor activity for all ages 5-18 Limit non-academic and non-professional internet use before the age of 14 to less than 1 hour a day
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:05 PM
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Yeah, I agree with that. Especially the therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 04:59 PM
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The BluePill is normie social norms and advice. Normie culture would say to never give up, but if someone was fundamentally unlikable/awkward/creepy? They wouldn't say "that's okay, someone somewhere will like you just the way you are - keep on making people uncomfortable!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 11:27 PM
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No. This is a weird fantasy y'all have dreamt up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 11:19 PM
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Actual BluePill answer: then assess what makes you unattractive and unlikable, get to the root of your issues, and learn to change what you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:57 PM
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I'm just saying I've attracted a better caliber of men as I've become more interesting. Yes, of course you have. People here are just unable to see that many, if not most, educated, attractive men value traits beyond "attractiveness and sex" in women. Attractiveness and sex are literally the lowest standard, and ambitious men obviously want more than base level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 11:49 PM
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I don't know why it's fucked up. Men tend to want their women to not be attracted to large swaths of strange men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:04 AM
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What makes it not easy? Edit: Girly, you need FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:37 AM
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They will if you finesse them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:04 AM
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Male SMV is literally determined by women alone, so yes, it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:59 AM
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It's typical in the Western world for people to not marry until later 20s, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:39 PM
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I never said anything about expecting cash in return for affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:14 PM
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What about this is selfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 01:02 PM
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I don't necessarily associate "nice" with "expensive," but I can see why people would. My reading of that post was that it was in contrast to the Olive Garden. In any case, I think my age matters less than the age of the man I'm dating. If I'm 19, I wouldn't expect an expensive restaurant from an age-mate. If I'm seeing a 26+ yo with a degree and several years on the job market, my expectations are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 07:14 AM
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You totally sidestepped the point. People call FDSers gold diggers for the very things men say they, themselves, prefer - money spent on them in lieu of a free romantic walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:55 AM
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Romantic date Yes FDS isn't wrong to notice that men wouldn't value "romantic walk dates" planned by their girlfriends more than or even the same as they would value an expensive gift. Of course men would choose the expensive gift. Does that make them gold diggers the way people call FDSers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:37 AM
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Most boyfriends aren't actually buying expensive clothes and jewelry for their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:32 AM
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It's good money when you grow up low income. But it's also important to remember that this doesn't include any benefits, taxes, long-term savings. A good chunk of these women have at least 1 kid. Money is unstable af - for ever $700 night, there are 14 nights at $300. Whole ass *seasons* are bad. 100k/year is *possible*, but it's not at all the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:55 PM
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I'd say most standard strippers are making maybe 60-70k a year, which is good money considering most don't have degrees, but it's certainly not "BANK."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:22 PM
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Men also find pre-selection attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 04:04 PM
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Most arent taller than 5'10"?
/r/MensRights24/08/20 04:10 AM
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How would you solve the issue? It's mostly other men who are murdering, assaulting, and raping men. Men only spas gyms etc wouldn't do anything.
/r/MensRights23/08/20 03:57 PM
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Feminists sure as hell don't believe in the physical power of Women. Women are on average physically weaker. We're also on average smaller. No amount of belief will change these biological facts
/r/MensRights23/08/20 03:54 PM
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Many women aren't taller than 5'10". That's downright rare.
/r/MensRights23/08/20 03:53 PM
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I don't like you, satanic hamster, but I think I love you for this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:03 PM
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Meh. I prefer beta traits. Beta traits doesn't mean sobbing, drunk 3 AM phone calls and begging to get me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 12:54 PM
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Online dating has become the most popular way couples meet according to stats and I can definitely see it eclipsing all other options as years go by. This is unfortunately circular. People feeling like OLD is the only way to go will lead more people to only use OLD to try to date/have sex. That doesn't mean IRL isn't working or will stop working, just that men aren't trying IRL in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:51 PM
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People are allowed to cry in front of others. People are allowed to foster relationships that don't hinge on transactions. People aren't allowed to thoughtcrime my feelings. People cry to me all the time. I listen and hold them. That doesn't mean I have to find it attractive or that I don't get tired of crying without impetus for solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:01 PM
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So is your issue that I find crying during movies cute, or that I don't like feel-sorry-for-yourself crying? Nobody likes feel-sorry-for-yourself crying. Nobody. Not even men - particularly masculine men - tolerate it from women. My family didn't tolerate tears, point blank. That's life, not this whole ass weirdo ethos about being a killing machine. It's not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:57 PM
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I absolutely agree. I said this elsewhere, but my stance isn't isolated to men. I couldn't stand self-pity crying from women, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:21 PM
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Why is this contradictory to my flair? Are BluePill women supposed to be attracted to men who wallow in self-pity? Feeling aimless and want to brainstorm paths forward? Fine. Shed some tears about it, fine and understandable. Crying in my arms feeling pitiful, talking about how you hate yourself? No. Nope. I don't cry to men like this, either. Again, that's what a therapist is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:17 PM
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What about this is sad? Self-pity is disgusting. Begging and self-debasement are disgusting. I feel the same for women when I date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:53 PM
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It's telling that you read "men crying about feeling sorry for themselves" as the totality of emotional labor men require. I can't stand women crying when they feel sorry for themselves, either. Self-pity is unattractive. That said, I support you going your own way and investing in young female entrepreneurs. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 03:51 PM
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Men crying over a breakup triggered and enhanced feelings of disgust. Men crying while feeling sorry for themselves ("it's just so hard, I feel so aimless, I hate myself") filled me with disgust. Men who feel this way should cry to a therapist, not to their GF's. My man crying at a movie - especially over something touching - is really cute and makes me feel immense love feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:03 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 10:44 AM
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On the other hand, I'd argue that PPD is gender studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:23 PM
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A large part of gender studies - in terms of classes I've taken - were historical, anthropological, and sociological in nature. The pure theory intro courses, imo, are a small part of the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:31 PM
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How would you recommend that I, a fat, dirty, rude, depressed, dumb, cowardly, crude, gross, and annoying person, find sex and relationships? Remember, you posted this as a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:15 AM
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What is "who I am" is unlikable and unlovable? What who I am is I'm fat, dirty, rude, depressed, dumb, cowardly, crude, gross, annoying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 04:04 AM
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What people in other countries charge has no bearing on what people charge in the US. That's not how wages work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 03:52 AM
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The issue with sugar dating is that it is overpriced. If girls weren't getting clients at the prices they set, they'd lower them. It's not overpriced just because you can't afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:25 PM
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> Male strippers are routinely sexually assaulted without consequence. Male strippers routinely sexually assault customers without consequence. They pull off women's clothing, toss them around, bite their tits, hump them on stage, shove their hard dicks in their faces. > Men at female strip clubs are beaten up by the bouncers for slightly disobeying the rules. I've danced in almost a dozen strip clubs around the U.S., from neighborhood bar to high-end, and no one gets beaten up for "slightly dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:37 PM
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Sir, this is an Arby's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:52 PM
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Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:07 PM
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Legally, he's not your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 07:14 PM
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You've never been a woman who is fucking a man. You have no idea how most men act in the moment. I could make any female cum. Lmao sure, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 07:13 PM
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But he's not your husband. He's your cohabitating long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:53 PM
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RPW wasn't about giving advice "how to girl." If they wanted that advice, they should have gone to other subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:52 PM
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I mean, okay. I was very specific about what I was responding to. A woman getting herself off isn't "just" anything. There are a lot of factors at play, just like men who are nervous often can't orgasm even if he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:49 PM
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but it should be 1000% easier to just say “No, not like that” or “Slow down a little” or “Not so rough please”. Lol and you believe most men would listen? Anyway, your reply is besides the point. You said "all women have to do is...." And that shows a clear lack of understanding of women's arousal and how women orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:48 PM
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all women need to do to cum during sex is rub their clits. Lol cute that you think this, but try again. No amount of clit rubbing on a cold or even lukewarm engine will get a woman off. If the angle is wrong, he's too deep, his stroke game is weird, he jackhammers, he grabs you wrong, he doesn't last long enough, his breath smells weird, you feel bloated or unsexy, he keeps pushing your body in uncomfortable ways.... There's so much more to a woman orgasming during sex, that requires a mindful a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:22 PM
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Yes, inherently so. A core tenet of the RedPill is that sexual strategy is amoral. BB is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:07 PM
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Yeah, but I already quoted that exact same definition. That was my original comment to the CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:25 PM
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Why did you quote something at me that I originally quoted? We'll have to agree to disagree that 1-2 year long relationships are short term and qualify as "having sex with as many alphas as possible."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 01:11 PM
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I got that definition from the RedPill glossary, which is required reading of "the side bar." If there are alternate definitions, I'd be happy to read them, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:15 AM
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No, not a strawman. I am responding and referring to the CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:41 AM
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Please cite relevant RP theory that says that the cock carousel describes women only fucking 1 man every 1-2 years/in LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:41 AM
1

That's fine. That's also not the CMV in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:39 AM
2

Yes, you "expound" definitions beyond their original intent, thereby watering them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:50 PM
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It is. I think you misunderstood my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:33 PM
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So you're saying that it's not women constantly trying to water down RedPill definitions, it's so-called RedPill men themselves? Okay, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:10 PM
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OP said every year or two, so I'm taking that literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:07 PM
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I mean, okay, sure. That's not the topic of the CMV, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:04 PM
4

NOTICE ME, OP-SENPAI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:59 PM
10

Nah, you'll just take sloppy sixths.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:56 PM
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What part of "having sex with as many alphas as possible" sounds like one-man-every-one-to-two-years serial monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:54 PM
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The cock carousel never meant to describe a woman only fucking in long-term relationships. TheRedPill defines the "cock carousel" as The period of time in a woman's life where she successfully exploits her sexual value and maximizes her hypergamous tendencies by having sex with as many alphas as possible Source: https://archive.is/AUdea
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:32 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:16 PM
2

No, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:42 PM
2

I read this post as, a woman who wants a more traditional relationship but posts woke things on social media about women having the right to not be in these relationships. Not that it matters - post has been deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 01:59 AM
3

Already responded to this in a different reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 05:15 PM
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Oh, you're right lol. Still, A woman can want her man in control of her relationship but not want it expected or demanded of women overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:55 PM
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What's the debate? A woman can want her man to control the household while wanting equal rights under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 04:38 PM
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Having wide social circles where you can meet a lot of people from a lot of background, improving your chances to find the one you can vibe with This is a really good response. Most married people I know met through being social, either within their social circles or tangentially. (Tangentially meaning, went to a brew festival with friends, met another group, hit it off with someone in that group. Fast forward, married in 3 years.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:38 PM
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No, I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:14 PM
10

"Spinning plates" is just standard urban dating. Men and women do it alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:51 PM
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Are you asking *why* cutters are painted as bad apples, crazy, or red flags? I could take a gamble: Shows poor emotional regulation and tendency towards unhealthy coping mechanisms May indicate a history/tendency of histrionics, maybe even attention-seeking (depending on how this is shared with you) May indicate a history with abuse, which is its own red flag Increased likelihood of toxic codependency Navigating this mess can be very emotionally taxing A lot of men don't want what's "theirs" har…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 01:22 AM
1

I really hate his facial expression here. I also think he'd look better if zoomed out. That said, 7.5-8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:40 PM
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Oh, lord. I should have known that someone would take "wedding vows" in the most literal, autistic way possible. Vows = in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, etc. aka, most married people I know take their commitment to and in marriage very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:20 PM
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I highly doubt you understand divorce statistics, because they don't tell us that "most married people ignore marriage vows."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:56 PM
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Most married people I know take their vows very seriously. Maybe you're just surrounding yourself with shit people with a shit marital ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:04 PM
5

The worst part about being short isn't people's dating preferences. It's the fact that cupboards, shelves, and even grocery store aisles are built too tall. You ever have to ask someone normal-sized to get something from the top shelf? Or climb onto the counter to reach the top cupboard? It's fucked, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:09 PM
2

I'm confused by your question. Nothing about Blue Pill says I have to dislike being a woman or not recognize the benefits of being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:13 PM
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It feels pretty damn stellar. I am happy to be a woman, specifically one that is decently pretty. There is nothing to "come to terms" with here. This is just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:13 AM
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It's funny cuz the women are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:45 AM
3

ICE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:40 PM
1

ICE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:39 PM
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I'm mixed (Asian/Latina), 30F. I grew up mostly dating Mexican-Americans (men and women both), largely due to the immense segregation in my hometown. I expanded to dating black women, Asian women, black men, Asian men, and white and Jewish men in college and after. I'm hypergamous af, so I only date well-educated people in upwardly mobile careers. This has obviously shaped who ended up in my purview. I do not in any circumstances date white women. That is intentional. (But don't worry - some of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:00 PM
1

Let me know when the petition goes up so I can sign it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:06 PM
1

I don't recognize your alt. Do I know you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:03 AM
2

Ohhh, your makeup in that second pic is stellar. A+++++ eyes, highlight, cheekbones, lipcolor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:41 AM
2

They know who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:06 AM
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rus TheJim66 uhhhhh there are like 5 others but i haven't been active enough to remember them rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:31 AM
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I hate your glasses. Go into Warby Parker or SEE and get yourself a nice, stylish, flattering pair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:34 PM
1

With a light flick of the wrist at the head
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:43 PM
2

Were you a bigger fan of the old dogpill? Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:19 PM
1

The real treasure were the dogs we dogged along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:18 PM
1

\vague jerkoff motion**
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:12 PM
1

Mannnnn, there goes my MLM scheme!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:09 PM
3

Sounds gay but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:33 PM
2

Sledding is probably sexier, anyway. Get him fitted with a nice harness, pull out the whip. Woof woof, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:33 PM
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I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:23 PM
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So you're telling me that men require adversity? Maybe I'll take Jason hunting, or sledding. Something good to break and build the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:20 PM
2

sick burn brah
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:13 PM
2

Didn't you read my guide? I'm paying with roast chicken, hair scritches, "good boys," and pussy. Check mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:13 PM
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Big Brain AngelFire
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:09 PM
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When Jason leaves the toilet seat up, I rub his nose in it. Worked great until he started misbehaving on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:09 PM
2

Even hounds of war follow orders from someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:05 PM
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Why in the fucking works did you continue talking/asking questions after she said "yeah"? Did you go on the Italian date or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:32 PM
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It's a tenant of red pill truth, and I'm not red pill. If this was Q4RP, you should have said as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:07 AM
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I am far left and have been known in my day as a SJW, complete with street protests and polyam relationships, and I fucking hate overly emotional men. I don't want to see or hear you cry. I have no interest in hearing your self-pity or struggles if you're not looking for solutions. I find it disgusting to have to listen to and apparently put on airs to demonstrate empathy for your sad, woe is me ass. Find a therapist like every other depressed and anxious Millennial, because I am NOT the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:02 AM
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I swear I'll be on my deathbed before I forget that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:57 AM
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"sexy times" I voted for Hillary
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:42 AM
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Sir, this is Wendy's
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:55 PM
1

> why don't you start cashing some of those checks your fat fucking 🐷 mouth is writing aaaaand now i'm wet. ever thought about writing degradation porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:43 PM
1

All Hail St. Belle, Patron Saint of Bathwater
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:44 PM
3

Buzz buzz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:42 PM
10

things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:39 PM
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Yes. Your therapist and you will work through this. You clearly have a lot going on and don't need to muddle your process with the asinine brainings of online misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:26 PM
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Girl. Why are you justifying yourself to this random ass man on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:13 PM
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You rang? Lol. Do you disagree with my categorization of a type of woman who will be judged as a slut by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:53 PM
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I like your further breakdown of actual factual hoe-sluts. I'd throw in "I do it because others do," too, or more specifically - "I do it because I'm easily influenced by others." My old stripper Instagram account used to draw a good deal of young women charmed by what they saw was the glamour of sex work, the woman-powerness, who wanted to in-group with me and mine. These women, if they enter the field at all, don't last long. They burn out when actually confronted by the reality of men, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:01 PM
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I don't trust that men can discern beyond their perception, which for sluthood is mostly a matter of "slut tells." A woman who teases and flirts with men at the bar would be considered a slut, regardless of whether she's n=1.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:48 PM
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I think you missed a type or two, namely: Women who are man teasers, who use men for validation without any real interest in sex with the men they tease.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:29 PM
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There's nothing here that said OP was better looking. Feels before reals, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:15 AM
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Female hypergamy real, and it's a net positive for society when practiced right/applied to reproduction. Women only respect men they're at least a little bit afraid of. There are so such thing as unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:43 AM
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How is it hamstering? This is saying that woman who ride the cc are not looking for commitment. That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:30 AM
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Green, based off what I know about you, I'm gonna say that you, like me, live in a very special bubble that most people here can't conceive of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:05 AM
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Right! And it's funny to me, cause I come from a family of the very gang members and felons that the men here think women prefer. Some women do prefer gang members and felons, but these women aren't "good girls." These women aren't anywhere remotely within the social circle or sexual matrix of the men commenting here. They're in the hood, and they are NOT the type of women the men of PPD would pursue. If anything, it's a mutual "you're not my type" scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:05 PM
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Yeah, that's why I mentioned in my comment somewhere that good girls might like the aesthetic and attitude of a "bad boy," but that's different from preferring actual bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:02 PM
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From growing up in the hood Yep. I have a feeling that a lot of these answers are coming from people whose idea of a "bad boy" is a man who played hookie once. In neighborhoods with actual "bad boys," the girls who prefer them are not good girls. The good girls are nowhere near the bad boys and are even likely segregated in classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:35 PM
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Lol, you just made shit up. I was never talking about my preferences or who I'm "all over." I was talking about Korean men rejecting me. But since you made it about my SMV interests: I prefer Korean men over white men by leaps and bounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:31 PM
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Bad girls like bad boys. That is true. Good girls - soft girls, feminine girls - don't like bad boys. They don't have the disposition for bad boys - they are afraid of violence and bullying. In popular media, the "bad boys" who win aren't genuinely bad boys. They're not bullies or violent or sociopathic. They just have aesthetic and attitude enough to not be white bread boring. Good girls, like average girls, broadly do not like boring men. Good girls still get tingles from a man who is more dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 05:32 PM
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This is so ahistorical, dude. Women, especially upper class and landed women, have foregone marriage throughout history. Banananut mentions the Mary Tyler Moore show, but it happened in history even before TV. Check out Boston marriages, for example. UC and landed women whose husbands died also didn't necessarily remarry, because property laws would mean that she'd lose ownership to the new husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 04:58 PM
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Tbh, I've been considering changing my flair to Blue Pill. Someone recently said I am so I'd be chill batting for the BP team.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 09:20 PM
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post the same man shirtless ACTIVELY chopping wood, preferably a gif. then youll see the correct response This is a good point that relates directly to what others have said re women valuing strength first and foremost. Strength isn't a static trait, it's an active one. OLD should allow gifs lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:38 PM
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I've used it online, when a straight man is acting hystrionic and feminine. Man up in this contects means "stop acting like a woman/a victim." IRL, I'd be more gentle if the man is important to me. Otherwise, I'd stay quiet and file him away as meaningless to my existence, the way I dismiss women who act like victims who lack control over their lives. I have no tolerance for this type of behavior pretty much across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 08:41 PM
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Most schools don't sex segregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 08:23 PM
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I'm not going to find what guy? OP didn't ask about indicators of marriage performance. OP asked about taste. I'm not in the "marrying men" market. I have no interest in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:49 PM
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I'm exactly 30 right now and not with a man, but my taste has absolutely changed since I was 20-24. 20-24, I was only attracted to men with feminine features. Gorgeous hair, high cheekbones, thick lashes. Slim. I was also only looking for men who were creative, educated, intelligent. Men who talked philosophy. Now, at 30, my attraction has broadened - older, more masculine features. Men who work out versus men who play music and draw. Alpha personalities are not as annoying to me. I've realized …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:51 AM
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Lol, can you identify what exactly comes across as bitter in my comment? And yes, you pay child support to uphold the quality of life for your children so that the state doesn't have to. That is wholly reasonable. If you want it badly enough, you can always fight your low income ex-wife for custody, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 10:45 PM
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I mean, ok, so let the dude fight for full custody. The rest of your comment is honestly tangential.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 10:41 PM
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Lmao, she didn't leave me alone at that point. She just stopped trying to set me up with 1st Gen Koreans. She didn't really lay off until I was both 30 and both my sisters were married. Other stuff happened, too, to get her to lay off. She's still anxious af about it, but she at least understands where I'm coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:52 PM
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Lol the law cares about the quality of life your child has between households. Just cause you're bitter about your ex-wife doesn't mean your child should be destitute when with her. It's really as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:45 PM
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No blind dates, but when I was in my 20s, my mom always "just happenned" to see some similar-aged eligible bachelor that she had to introduce me to when I went to church with her. She once bumrushed me with a lunch with other moms - all who had suspiciously single sons. I finally had a conversation with her about how all the good Korean boys who'd have their moms arrange dates for them aren't Americanized enough to want my mixed-race self. Also, I'm 30 now, so she's more anxious but has weirdly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:38 PM
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You don't owe HER money for 18 years. That's alimony, which is almost always short term anyway. You owe your child money to ensure it maintains the lifestyle it has with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:29 PM
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do you think men en masse are demanding sole custody of small children after divorce? Sometimes I think these men really think so. They're so wrapped up in the outrage porn of it that they don't stop to think, "would I, as a newly single man, demand sole custody of a screaming, shitting infant?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:27 PM
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When you think about it, it makes sense. Our biology responds to our biological imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:24 PM
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Proof that there is a growing number of betas with no relationship prospects? Proof the lack of relationship prospects are due to women's liberation and not the increase of anxious, neurotic men? Cause the truth is, women prefer beta traits for marriage. Alphas are frankly not great marriage material for most women. It's the omegas who are struggling, not the betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:50 AM
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I went on a date with a girl, and she surprised me by showing up with her boyfriend. They were looking for a 3rd. She didn't mention being in a relationship beforehand. This has happened to me three times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:55 AM
2

What are men's goals? What are women's goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:48 AM
1

This is a false binary. Why isn't, "be honest about your intent without being an asshole" an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:46 AM
6

Women absolutely play the dread game, but makeup isn't part of it. Makeup is pure FSM fuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 09:28 PM
3

Dread absolutely works on most men. Most men are not alpha enough for it to not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 09:27 PM
2

Nope, just meat and flour for two weeks straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:51 AM
1

Lmao, there are very few Chad's in the BDSM world. Most slaves and subs are owned by far fucks in leather.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:31 AM
1

why should we take these people seriously when it comes to relationships? This is a silly question. I don't care about who other people take seriously. It's none of my business or concern what you feel about these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:19 AM
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You're supposed to take more pills if you're still eating 30 minutes after you take your first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:50 AM
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It's because ecigs are such an immense gateway into nicotine addiction for 14-18 yo's. I'm surprised you didn't do what my friends did and stock up before the ban went into effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:43 AM
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FDS has an actual post about their definition of HVM. It's clear you haven't read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:39 PM
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No, absolutely not. Especially since those at risk by being pimped out by parents are actual children, usually ages 12-13. But raping 12-13 year olds being prostituted by parents wasn't the topic. Obviously that would be a "non-negotiable" limit in dating. The topic was, broadly, employing a sex worker for services, and the response was that doing so means there's a high chance of engaging in human trafficking. That's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:52 AM
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I'm saying that there ISN'T a high possibility of trafficking, even among teenagers, especially among teenagers over the age of 16. Trafficking obviously exists, and obviously no one should be fucking minors, but making shit up doesn't actually help anyone who IS trafficked. It just diverts resources away from addressing known risk factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:34 AM
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No? And I never said anything approaching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:14 AM
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Most trafficked people are not forced into prostitution. They're growing our food, cleaning our hotels, and doing our nails. Immigration and runaway teens doesn't mean people are being trafficked, either. Qualitative research of teens engaged in SW, for example, finds that most aren't trafficked and don't have pimps. It's a crime of necessity and survival, first and foremost. Those who do have pimps? Are being pimped out by their parents, so again, not within the legal definitions or understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:22 AM
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Bullshit4. OP lifts weights 5 days a week, and BMIs are notorious for overmarking serious weight lifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:12 AM
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Mehhh. The numbers and definitions of "voluntary" vary a lot. In our capitalist system, a lot of work isn't voluntary. That doesn't mean human trafficking or abuse are happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:02 AM
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LOL last time I was on a community college campus, I was getting approached my literal 19-yo's. It was honestly pretty sweet (there's nothing like a kid bragging about his uncle who is a doorguy at a bar being able to score us booze without an ID), but it flies in the face of "the wall." I'll tune back in when I'm closer to 40, though, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:49 AM
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I want to be remembered as courageous and loving, and as someone who saw and encouraged the best in people. I hope my legacy is one of contributing to people's self-actualization and healing and resilience, and that through me, the people I love learned more about themselves and their power for change and growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:45 AM
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Interesting perspective from my time stripping: it was very common for men to spank me. I don't enjoy it but leaned heavy into dirty talk as part of my hustle, so I always asked some variation of, "Oooh, do you like to spank?" 9/10, the guy would just look at me, kinda surprised (it seemed, that I even asked), and would be like, "Uhhh, actually, no? Not really." It was just super performative. I kinda assumed it was because that's what men thought they should do to me as a sex worker (plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:39 AM
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What special designation comes from the label if not exclusivity? Your friends are going to sabotage you, cause forcing the bf/gf conversation, especially when you already have exclusivity, is neurotic af.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 11:50 PM
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You're telling me that you think a 6.5 puts you at the bottom 80% of women? You're lying to yourself somewhere here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 08:04 PM
1

Would you rate yourself as over a 6 or 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:19 PM
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Yeahhhhh, so, a 30 yo whose GRANDMA sets up his first dates at HER house? No. No to him, no to grandma, and the fact that you think that's okay means no to you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:02 PM
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She's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:32 PM
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Lol every man I've been in a relationship with has loved me first and more deeply. Men are very emotional. Many are just also scared and believe that vulnerability makes them weak. That's their own struggle. But, I will say this: a man who is 30 isn't struggling with loving a woman unless he is emotionally stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:30 AM
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Girl, people are out here photoshopping away their noses for the 'gram, and this is what you're pressed about? We can talk about the harm of social media all day, but no makeup makeup isn't the root of it. Also, "Instagram worthy" is some GenZ/baby Millennial b.s. Stop following so many "influencers" and post whatever tf you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:23 AM
1

No makeup makeup doesn't require heavy contouring...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:10 AM
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You seem to be missing my point with that bullet. Like 80% of no makeup makeup hinges on having nice skin. Also, no makeup makeup doesn't mean no eyeliner or lipstick. It means choosing the right tools and technique, if you're gonna do eyeliner and lipstick. My no makeup makeup uses both (lipstain or pot rouge for my lips with dewey chapstick on top, copper microthin eyeliner with tightline technique).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:07 AM
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Lol truerateme is hella soft of men and much more harsh on women. This isn't because of no makeup makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 12:53 AM
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I don't understand this post at all. No makeup makeup takes 5 minutes tops. The foundation of the "look" is actually good skin care hygiene and hydration. You should be doing this anyway. No makeup makeup is just a tool in the toolbox. It doesn't mean I'm throwing out my glam makeup tools. No makeup makeup doesn't cost any more than glam makeup. No man is not getting erections cause his chick isn't wearing makeup. If you're spending mad dough, that's cause you're getting a bit of pro work done. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 12:52 AM
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Like, what makes a woman "type" a man as a hookup? Well, I'm my experience: Enough casual sex with enough women in similar social circles (women talk) To some degree, stereotypical Chad looks, especially if he's dull and/or dumb, not good at conversation Partier to the degree that few women see him sober outside of class and finals period Too many hot woman friends Good at sex (again, women talk) but with certain "red flags" (example from uni: dude loved Black women, was a Chadly southern white …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 10:41 PM
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I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:46 PM
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Hell, some women are just fertile af. My mom had her last at 43. While she was on birth control. She was mad, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:54 PM
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Is your Amazon God aunt gay, by chance? I'm not saying I have a crush, but goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:53 PM
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I am the first-born grandchild of a very matriarchal family, and you know what? I get it. There is a lot at stake in your vested interest in maintaining the strength of your family. With that said? You should talk to your sisters. Not framed as, "I'm afraid you're gonna grow old alone and die unhappy and full of regret," but just like, "hey sister, I know Mom puts a lot of pressure on you. I want you to know that I'm here to support you. My concern is your happiness, so let me know what you need…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:48 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. That said, having read other comments, it does look like FL law is intentionally difficult. It sucks to live in sucky states with sucky laws, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:35 PM
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Yeah, tbh, this is wildly unpopular/will rile up a lot of men, but I can't hate on her for making sure her spawn had a chance at security. It's unfair to you as a person, but meh. Children come first, always. And yeah, AWALT. The part where I think she fucked up was not getting paternity disestablished in FL once her baby daddy was in the picture again. Cause that's likely the source of the 10 year legal debacle: she needed to disestablish paternity in FL, regardless of paternity of the baby dad…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:34 PM
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I mean, yes, but in this case, the state's best interest and the interest of the "people" are similar. On both an individual (child) basis and on a population health level, it's important that a child be supported. Child support is part of that and likely ensured a varied support network - your ex likely would have qualified for welfare even with CS, so the state would be paying for the kid's health care and maybe even housing. That's fair to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:31 PM
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Yeah, you're right. Edited, cause I agree with the law, but I also know there are ways to get husband's paternity disestablished. Tbh, I imagine that if ex-wife has actually had paternity disestablished in FL, this whole 10 year saga wouldn't have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:05 PM
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Tbh I don't know what thread you're talking about. I also edited my comment - some about this isn't fair in the structural sense, some isn't fair in a personal sense, it's fair that Florida acted in it's best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:59 PM
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Of course it's not fair that you were put on a birth certificate for a child that wasn't yours your wife knowingly had you put down as the father and did not go through the legal mechanisms to get your paternity disestablished in FL. It's also not fair that interstate law doesn't adapt well to changes. It is fair that the state of Florida have a vested interest in getting people to pay child support so that they don't have to support the mother and child with welfare. Is there anything else you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:10 PM
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I wonder about this. A friend of mine works in an office that favors women in hiring. The reason? The hiring managers have found that women are better at project management. Their qualifications on paper were equal, but it was assumed women had the EQ necessary for the interpersonal work and were better at collaboration. The root is still bias in favor of women, of course, but it's not something a quant-only study really gets into.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:25 PM
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It's one of my life goals to befriend a cow. ;_; I can tell I'm hormonal cause Georgia's cuteness just wrecked me. She's so cute and playful. ;_;
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:54 AM
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One of my friends is dating a man who made a cardboard box play space/castle for her cat. Needless to say, literally all of us women love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:51 AM
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slow, plodding, fucking nothing that most people put out into the world IRL. There's one common denominator here is, once again, you. Not even as a judgment statement. You're clearly very antisocial to the degree that you'd rather Google than have an IRL conversation, and that's your prerogative. But your headstrong need to place that blame on others and not identify it as a "you" thing? Well. Good luck, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:47 AM
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Lol, I know. I was joking, because the whole exchange is so ridiculous. And anyway, ccording to the research I'm doing, after adjusting for socioeconomic factors, it's effectively entirely cause of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:42 AM
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Cause he's not alpha, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:40 AM
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I think we just uncovered the secret to why men have low rates of health care-seeking behaviors! Fear and distrust of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:37 AM
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Is this you saying that you would indiscriminately date both a 4'11" bipolar balding Indian janitor AND a 6'3" Stacy? Sounds like a good response for not-automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:07 AM
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........ This is Q4M.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:03 AM
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I don't have anti-social personality disorder, but as someone who is pretty damn DT and at my core am very manipulative and even predatory... Mad respect, man. Sometimes our code and values and honor are all we have to guide us, but I believe that's 100% enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:09 AM
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Meh, depends a lot on the nurse, state, degree, specialty. National average for a RN is like 60k, but the average is 100k in California and 90k in Washington. Compared to the US median household income of 56k, this is hardly low status. Nurse Practitioners, on the other hand, pull in an average of 110k. My specialty's average is 150k, with top earners with experience hitting a quarter million. NPs are diagnosing, treating, running tests, prescribing medications. Again, none of this is low status…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:55 AM
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lecture me that grown men can’t get erections from kissing There are men here who have seriously argued this? I'm have a seriously hard time imagining any man who doesn't get an erection from kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:55 PM
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I'm gonna give advice I give young women: don't engage with the hookup scene. Don't hookup at parties. Ask women on dates. Don't fuck until at least date 3. Also, an issue that might be coming up is you have fucked enough women casually that that's shaped how you're seen in the female dating/sexual matrix. You are typed as a hookup, and that's affecting how other women are seeing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:17 PM
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Lol, my uncle has been slaying since he was 20. If anything, he slayed more in his 20s, cause now that he's 40, he spends his time less focused on casual sex and is a firm serial monogamist who flirts with anyone with T&A.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:58 PM
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What in the world does Usain Bolt have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:34 PM
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If you're bored even with the sum total of knowledge and experience and wonder and current events and philosophy and just flat out getting to know people... Well, that's kinda a "you" thing. Maybe you should take up mindfulness practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:32 PM
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It's not irony. I didn't say you were boring for not liking the outdoors. I said you were boring because you're bored. If you disagree, go argue with all the men on PPD who gripe about women always expecting men to entertain who are bored without explicit external stimulation. These women are bored because they are boring. Non-boring people keep themselves engaged and entertained. They have active minds that don't need external "interesting" to make their brains go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:38 PM
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That would have been the case for 1 of the cheaters. It wasn't because he prefers mom to have custody (so of course he wouldn't receive child support) and was too masculine to accept alimony or have the wife he cheated on pay for a lawyer he necessitated. The other cheater and ex-wife didn't do lawyers, so no lawyers fees. No alimony, cause they made similar money. And like I said, he DID receive child support for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:32 PM
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I'd say it's mostly incels and incels who are trying to TRP. TRP would tell them to STFU, man up, and stop acting like neurotic women about this shit. Incels have a blind spot cause it serves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:27 PM
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Lol this reminds me of something I had to tell one of my cousins when he was 8: Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others are pretending to like it. Also: If you're bored, that means you're boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:21 PM
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Yep yep yep. I have a 5'4" uncle who slays it with women. And literally all the women? Are his height or taller. His current girl is 5'7", and he loves when she wears heels when they go out. Says it's good for a woman to be kept on her toes, lol. His success is 100% because he's super masculine - ex-Marine, built, works a trade job, very funny, charming. Does at all the masculine shit - fixing cars, BBQ (real TX BBQ), hunting, fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:18 PM
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Ok, and I know, let's see... 4 couples who got divorced? 2 where the man cheated - multiple times, including knocking up other women 1 where the woman cheated 0 paid any alimony 3 had children, of which 2 where the wife had primary custody: 1 at the choice of the man, who believed children should be with their moms. He pays child support and prefers this over custody, even though he'd be the one to get child support since he earns less than mom 1 was a shitshow (man fought for custody of the old…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:03 PM
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"gay mafia" made me lol But also, this was a good read. I love Rocky Horror and am definitely gonna have to rewatch it with this lens
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:49 AM
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Yes. But, well, to me, there's some degree of separation between rousing passion, feeling passion, and actually succumbing to passion. Like, I can rouse passion all by my own damn self and stoke that energy up in/with other who are receptive. And I can have passionate sex without actually feeling the passion in the way people are talking here. And I can feel passion without throwing myself into it and letting it take over. Succumbing to passion and being totally in it is something I require feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:21 AM
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Back when I was actively dating, I did this, lol. Less leading people on and more just letting it be known that I'm not looking for commitment and will be dating around. I encouraged them to do the same. It's astounding how few men and women alike actually believed me. Most thought I'd change my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:14 AM
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Lol your cunt had feelings for them. But in all seriousness, I agree and didn't mean to say that passion requires feelings. Just that for ChadTDK's situation, as someone who also fucks friends, I'd consider caring "feelings." Maybe "emotionally neutral" wasn't right, either, though - cause arousal is hardly neutral in a physiological and neurochemical sense, and I can't really ID how this is different from other emotions. Wasn't expecting this topic to get so cerebral for me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:09 AM
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I respect that. I am pro-social spending, and I also wish more went towards men's health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:54 AM
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It sounds like your issue isn't social spending, it's that not enough of that money goes towards men. Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:09 AM
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Yeah, I consider caring about friends as feelings. Can you have passionate sex with people you are emotionally neutral about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:07 AM
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Oh yeah, that's good context. I don't think I realized that's where the confusion was for exparadox, lol. Also like basically all other Black American vernacular, it's been picked up outside the community. I've been seeing white feminists use it nowadays, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:28 AM
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Because women want relationships. Women want men. Women want families and homes and love. There is a lot that women will go through to get a chance at the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 11:04 PM
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And this isn't even counting the fact that, in aggregate across all overweight categories, men are still more likely to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:50 PM
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Take a look at r/Vindicta for a peek into women's and body standards. I think you'll be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:49 PM
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loosing weight is just not eating as much, or doing cardio, or just cycling. Ahh, I see our miscommunication. I'm talking about losing fat, versus losing weight. When you lose weight, you're not only losing fat. You're also losing water weight and muscle. You can also lose weight without necessarily losing fat, and still have plenty of fat despite being slim. When you're losing fat, you're building up muscle while also trimming down. Losing fat takes regimen - lifting but also being meticulous a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:36 PM
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Missed that! Thanks. Edit: I think women are the backbone of civilization and society. Like in the wild west, it was women who created frontier towns, cause otherwise men were just content with being in the wild and living in tents and shit. I think men are rest of the body - it was men who built the frontier towns, to meet the civilization-building that women inspired. This type of drive, strength, and purpose is incredibly admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:19 PM
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No and no. Tell me, what would you think of a man who brags about working 3 jobs so his girl doesn't have to, pays for 100% of all things, says she doesn't have to give him anything for his birthday or Christmas, cooks and cleans for her, is okay with her cheating "as long as she returns to me," and puts down other men for not doing the same? If he posted all over social media about how "this is all you have to do" and "this is why you don't have a woman." You'd think he was pathetic, right? A s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:19 PM
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What? Not at all. Even for women, building muscle is easy - much easier than losing fat. It's just about progressively adding weight to your lifts and eating to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:11 PM
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That's part of it. "Pick me's" are broadly women who set themselves against other women in order to stand out to men. This may include faking interests, but it generally perpetuates a race to the bottom where women brag about how much they do and sacrifice to "get" a man. Pick me's are also kinda like white knights, but for men. Men can do no wrong, etc. That said, I was called a pick me on FDS for calling foul at folks denigrating a grieving husband and father for his venting (not actions), so …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:02 PM
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Alternatively, what if I'm critical of everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:02 PM
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Does this count as inc*l content?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:16 PM
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Dude, I've had a handful of men in PPD message me that dumbass meme about women ruining gaming culture. One dude was spamming it across threads, with ample upvotes and agreement. There is a type of man who definitely gatekeeps gaming. That type of man isn't dating gamer girls, no. Cause no shit - why would I want to be with someone who gatekeeps my hobby? But every "gamer girl" I know is with a man who also games. It's not hard - 47% of men game to some degree, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:49 PM
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which to most PPD women signals a "pick me" Doubtful. Most non-FDS PPD women don't even talk "pick me's."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:41 PM
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you're strategy will eliminate about 100% of men Nah. The strategy of waiting and being friends first works for women who want LTR. I used it in my hayday, I know happy marriages based off this. It filters most, but women don't need most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 06:36 PM
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I should edit that to "personality matters more," which is more of what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:52 PM
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It's pretty BP to downplay privileges associated with being conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:35 AM
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Ok, I'm not gonna lie, this doesn't read as a complete sentence to me, but I'm gonna answer what I think you're asking: No, being attractive or admitting to being attractive aren't black pill. Understanding that attractiveness is a privilege is, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:23 AM
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Yep! Like the majority of people, I've had HSV1 in my mouth since I was a child. 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:03 AM
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Not really embarrassed by any of these, but... RedPill: When it comes to men, I'm hypergamous af. BluePill: Confidence is more important than looks wrt women's attraction and sex drive. BlackPill: I am glad I am attractive. My life is easier because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:53 AM
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You should also ask if folks have ever been tested specifically for these STIs. Most people don't get tested, and most doctors don't text for HSV or HPV if there aren't physical symptoms. Anyway, I have been tested for HPV and HSV2. I am negative for both. I haven't been tested for HSV1, but I know I have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:34 AM
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Jane the Virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:19 AM
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Did you read the comments? Pennny and Ridge are specifically talking about using their own money. The issue isn't about keeping split incomes and prenups, it's about frugality becoming penny-pinching and opinionated. And I know for me, it's also a quality of life thing. It's just easier to not be with someone who would bat an eye over my monthly omakase habit. If you want to be frugal, be with someone who is frugal. Folks just saying that, for them, it's a similarly good life choice to not be wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:13 AM
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TRP has a well-known "anger phase," but OP is here pretending he's never heard a single man on PPD bash women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:06 PM
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You mean how women are attacked? This sub is 90% people bitching about the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:57 PM
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I hang in very non-normie circles, and no, I've never seen this response against men who are down about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:49 PM
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Intimacy and sex are different things. Humans do need intimacy - connection, touch. It is vital during infancy and childhood to promote healthy attachment and socialization. Skin hunger is also well-studied and is tied to a host of social, relational, and health deficits. Sex, however? Is not so much a need as a biological imperative, linked to testosterone and reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:35 AM
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Chad is the one that's going to leave you fuck other women and possibly murder you and your kids Who in the world do you think Chad is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:51 AM
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Thanks for the recs/reviews! I've not explored Colorado nearly enough, tbh. My mountains experience is pretty segregated to Utah and the Sierra Nevadas through CA and the PNW. Watch out with that .38, though. Guns aren't legal in a good chunk of national parks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:49 AM
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LOL and that's why I have my wilderness first aid cert! I'll be damned if I die out in the boonies cause I failed to adequately prepare. Have any favorite backpacking spots?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:34 AM
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Your mosh pit comparison is really sticking with me. I'm gonna have to think about that some more, cause as a former metalhead who still gets down in the pit, this feels astoundingly true. Anyway, next time you're in a new place for a minute, check out the swing scene. You don't have to be perfect to jump in to social dancing. Competence and a good attitude are enough. Good luck on your swing journey!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 10:52 PM
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Oh, no shit re WCS not being vintage, lmao. Sorry, I totally had a brain fart there. I totally feel you on jitterbug and lindy hop. I've been at ECS (pretty casually) for a few years now, and I broadly prefer jitterbug and lindy hop - ECS gets too ballroom for me, tbh. I've always preferred dances without super strict choreography. Swing is also one of those niches isn't too hard to jump into when you're new in town. I travel for work, and the swing community is always something I hit up to meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 10:25 PM
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Oooh, west coast or east coast swing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:00 PM
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Thank you! I'll check it out. I've not done any exploring out by the Great Lakes, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:45 PM
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Meh. I'm not the target audience for 6 packs and know plenty of women who like them. But I will say, for women who don't prefer them, it's effectively not at all because of the aesthetic - it's because of the lifestyle. Six packs are made in the womb, the kitchen, and in the lab. Most women aren't trying to eat the way men have to for the six pack unless they, themselves, are into the bodybuilding/hyper fitness scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:42 PM
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Were the 2 LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:37 PM
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Women by and large aren't getting knocked up by Chads. They're getting knocked up by regular - average, even below-average - men who then abandon father duties. Especially in socially conservative areas, these women even aren't riding the cc so much as being broadly uneducated, fucking similarly uneducated men. Throw in religion and poverty (not getting abortions) and then you get single moms whose n counts by 30 is still 3 but no man is interested. They might try for Chad after being burned by …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:18 PM
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But going for guys at or below their level is how they end up single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:19 PM
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I was recently in graduate school and have a lot of friends with graduate degrees. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. In my experience, by the time people get to grad school, many are already in LTR or married. The rest are too exhausted for the cc and, when they do date, are doing so to try to find a LTR. No one's having sex in classrooms. I also don't know how you'd know so much about your students' sex life as a professor, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:01 PM
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gender war going on where men and women are being pitted against each other to discourage any form of healthy heterosexual two-parent households. You need to get off the internet if you think this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:57 PM
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KILLING men with my athleisure, one yoga pants at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:38 PM
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Hope your mom heals well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:28 PM
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All the cocaine?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:02 PM
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I think I'm gonna take my quarterly vacation up in Canada. There's a spot I've heard about where you have to kayak/canoe across a lake to get to some stellar backcountry camping. Or maybe I'll explore Vancouver Island? I haven't decided, but I've been feeling that itch again after my solo trip to Big Bend over NYE. Anyone here do any backpacking? Have any recommendations for a woman who wants to disappear for 3-4 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:02 PM
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Lol, plenty of "college women" struggle. The thought that they don't is a BluePill fantasy for women: that being smart and educated with a good job are enough to be interesting to men. Much less get treated well by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:33 AM
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I do, actually. I don't have size requirements for men unless I have size-specific (but usually strength-specific) needs for them. That said, I'm not exactly tall, so finding men smaller than me isn't super common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:14 PM
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Meh. That's not my experience in femdom circles. Most male subs femdoms keep are not tall, large, muscular men. Unless, I guess, the woman is keeping a harem, which in case, yeah, it's nice to have a service sub who can do your manual labor? But that's really not a hard and fast rule. Most male subs I know who have a mistress are average-sized or small-framed. If anything, the tall/large/muscular subs I know are the ones with size requirements. They want a tall woman (esp for the men who are int…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:58 PM
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Oh hey! Thanks for the ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:56 PM
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To add to this: straight women who are into being dominant are MUCH more into dominating other women. That's why in the kink world, it's pretty common to come across couples with a male dom, female sub, and the female sub doms other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:44 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with what that woman looks like. I wasn't even talking about niche hobbies or weirdness. I have niche hobbies and am very weird. Men don't give AF about any of that. The key that I mentioned was knowing girlgame - which is in part a matter of social skills but also is about knowing what men are attracted to and being willing to play into that. For women who say they're too smart ... Top comment in this thread has it right. Smart women still tend to want men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:40 PM
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Single mothers. Women who don't know how to girlgame. (This might be the biggest factor, actually. Cause when I think of others who struggle - women in STEM, women who are very independent, women who are "masculine," the issue isn't any of these things so much as these women are too one-dimensional and suck at girlgame. I think this is why I, despite being all of the above (STEM, independent, masculine), have never struggled with men.) Women with unattractive personalities (loud and annoying, ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:06 PM
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Life's a bitch and then you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:17 AM
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That makes sense. Men with oneitis will struggle to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:33 PM
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I don't really find men hot like that, tbh. But if you were conventionally attractive, I'd tell you not to waste your time talking to me, because I have my own face-furniture at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:29 PM
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Depends. Is this a fetish bar, where men are genuinely interested in being human furniture? It also depends on my mood. If I'm in a good mood, I'd laugh and tell you how much that'd cost you. If I'm in a good mood, bored, and open to meaningless flirting, I'd ask how often that pickup actually works. If I'm in a good mood, bored, and you're ugly, I'd buy you a drink and ask what the fuck is going on with you that you think this will work. If I'm in a bad mood, I'd just grimace at you and then tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:13 PM
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Why in the world did you write this in response to me? I don't care that you reject fat women. I don't think women are perfect, and I know a lot of women don't handle rejection well. This has nothing to do with what I said about the inherently tilted "looksmatch" scales.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:12 PM
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Yep, all the arguments apply for both. I even argue that the pair-bonding issue is even more a factor among men. This is why TRP says to spin plates in the first place - it ensures men aren't getting attached to the women who they do fuck. It prevents and cures oneitis. Same with cheating. More sexual partners was found to be associated with later cheating - and men cheat more often than women. By the time men are in their 50-60s, some 35% of men will have cheated on their wives - more than the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:37 PM
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Fat chicks love me too as I'm kinda tall and fit You're missing the part that the majority (actually 70%) of men are also fat. 60% of women may be fat, but the fit women have more options (choosing not just tall and fit, but also a good face, dressed well, good job, etc.). Your looksmatch is still the fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:32 PM
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Although I find it hard to believe they don't get hit on. All my female friends get hit on Really? They get hit on by people who know they're engineers? I wonder if it's different in different types of engineering, cause the women I know are decently attractive and fit, and they basically only get hit on by men who have no idea what they do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:46 AM
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Nice. Okay. So, first responses I'm getting: My civil engineer friend says to go full on masc. Plaid shirt, but thicker material than standard office wear, tucked in. Leather belt. Nice, office-appropriate boots. He leans into it, though, and has the working class background to back it up. My computer engineering friend says that the men she notices are dressed more like management (but not HR or finance): nice button up, chinos in a color that isn't khaki/beige. Fun socks and shoes, if you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:16 AM
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Ok so, a lot of my friends are engineers. I'm asking them now and will report back. Edit: what kind of engineering?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 05:51 AM
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I said I was effectively a lesbian and a 5 on the Kinsey scale. Nothing in my post history invalidates that. I am not being dishonest. Or do you think that me talking about my incidental heterosexuality on a sub that is entirely about hetero sex dynamics is the end-all-be-all? Or maybe it's that you think you can prescribe these labels on others, based on your own uneducated biases? Anyway, I was offering an alternative narrative to why women get cosmetic surgery. You said "all to satisfy men," …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:32 AM
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I said I don't date men anymore and don't intend to. I also never mentioned men at all in explaining why I want breast implants. I like how you change the topic once I provide an alternative perspective, though. You're really discussing in good faith, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:07 AM
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What in the world? Who is talking about men? I'm effectively a lesbian. A 5 on the Kinsey scale. I literally don't give a fuck about what men find attractive. I'm talking about what turns me on as a woman who fucks women. It's pure narcissism. But uhhh, yeah, good job with the reading comprehension??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:21 AM
2

I find a well-done boob job sexy. I know from having a high bf% that having bigger tits makes me feel sexy. More than that, having bigger tits literally turns me on. Like, an outrageous amount. There's also the part of me that just wants to keep my hourglass. I have a fairly low bf% and enjoy it, but while I can build my ass and hips, no exercise will give me back my chest fat. I also know the risks. I risk my health every time I get in a car, travel by airplane (heyo radiation), provide health …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 02:10 AM
1

How do you "kinda" see something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:43 AM
0

Have you actually seen the FDS post defining HVM?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:13 AM
1

aesthetic Oh, fair. To each their own!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 01:04 AM
1

Lol, the clitoris is probably the easiest, least painful place to get pierced, since the skin is so thin. It's less crazy than people assume, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:52 AM
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I'm scheduled for a boob job this year, and I don't even date men anymore, nor do I intend to again. You're free to believe what you want, but you should know your beliefs don't make those things true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:47 AM
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A woman can be horny and want it in the parking lot and still wait for penetrative sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:32 AM
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Alpha/HVM/Chad are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:31 AM
0

28% of men, compared to 18% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 11:55 PM
2

Honestly, he does fucking do that. Except it's the coffee cart line, which is somehow worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:29 PM
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I mean, the national average for a preschool teacher is like 28k/year. I know a couple of stylists, and they're making about that much. Flight attendants at least make median US income, so that's actually not too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:24 AM
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I just have to figure out how not to get flustered in response. Figure out now what you want to say in those situations, and then when it happens again, you have a script to revert to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:12 AM
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Your daughter can be cute and girly in most careers, if that's what she wants. The alternative doesn't need to be her financially struggling her whole life in low-wage jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:23 AM
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There's a surgeon at my current hospital who annoys the crap out of me. I'm glad this is a short assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:46 AM
2

Wow, you really sustained a long conversation with that second guy. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:39 AM
1

Yes, I do. Of course, every man who has ever loved me has critiqued me for this - because they wanted more of my feelings, more emotion dumping. Men can be funny about these things just as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:41 AM
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Yes! This is big. Cause, tbh, men (just like women) express their shit moods all the damn time. They're grumpy and snappy and impatient and pick arguments. When I, as a woman, want a man to "express himself," I am looking for emotional maturity and self-reflection: tell me WHY your mood is shit instead of just being a prickly ass. I don't want the man to just break down and dump his shit on me. I'm not his mom or his therapist, and me asking for men to tell me what he's feeling, I'm not looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:54 PM
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That dude was an asshole and unprofessional to boot. It's not mislabeling cause I say it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 08:14 PM
2

lmao, he's saying that the way you talk hurts PPD men's feeeeeeelings, and if you coddled them, they'd maybe listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:37 PM
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I've been thinking this about RP's single mom hate. For men who don't want to get married or be a parent, why TF does it matter that she's popped out a couple? Especially if she's still young and hot? Why hate on someone else for having bastard children when you're just trying to get your dick wet? I'd think RP should love single moms. Especially low class single moms. They're low inhib, high risk. They work jobs where people drink and fuck: diners, bars. They're so stressed, they'll be looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 06:01 PM
2

Are you BP? Can you show me threads where BP say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 05:45 PM
1

My understanding is that BP is working on inner game, not that someone will like you as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:58 AM
3

That answers your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 05:02 AM
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Yes, sex is often a part of vetting. No, I don't care how you navigate your kinks, and I don't see why you're looking for commentary on your personal sex dynamics. Is this an exhibitionist thing? If so, ew, and also, rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:05 AM
1

I've heard feminists complain about the free love movement for at least 15 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:09 PM
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I've seen this happen to a number of women in my life. Yes, I think it's effective. Women want to believe men, kind of inherently, so of course it's effective. Men of all SMV can do this. I'd say it's common enough that women are waking up to it and becoming aware, though that doesn't mean anything about changed behavior, lol. Cause, again, women want to believe. They basically string up the carrot themselves and give it to their man to hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:54 PM
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Porn, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:35 PM
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Everything in life carries risk. You can reduce that risk through regular safety measures: getting tested once a year or with each new partner, using barrier methods, not having sex when intoxicated (intoxication = higher chance of misusing barrier methods), reducing ONS, getting the HPV vaccine, PEP if you go raw, PrEP if you're prone to going raw. Also, STIs aren't the end of the world. By and large, they are treatable. Even HIV is effectively curable now. And getting tested regularly means yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:12 AM
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Being a porn performer is definitely not culturally accepted. It might be among GenZ, but I know enough porn actresses who have had their lives negatively impacted by anti-sw bias to know that it's not the norm and will not be for a couple of generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:19 PM
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Lol if you think new money is anything like family money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:05 PM
5

You weren't played. You were a dumbass who chose to fuck without a condom. At best, you played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 10:03 PM
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I'd bring out my sadism gear and beat his ass like the money pig he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:42 PM
4

I'd say your advice is good advice to retain status, but not value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:31 PM
1

Just prisonmaxx, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:26 PM
1

Yes, I know how job interviews work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:12 PM
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Man, some of y'all are seriously lacking in social intelligence. But okay. New example. Her: "I'm not interested in having children. I'm only interested in being child-free." Does this mean that if she gets pregnant, keeps your kid, and straps you up for child support, she's not being the asshole? Since, to you, she didn't technically deceive you and say we wasn't interested in being child-free with you specifically, just in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:42 AM
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PPD men tell me that the sex is the job interview, though. That no man will commit before sex is on the table. So the metaphor is more like: you tell me you're hiring for a long-term position, potentially with room for promotions. I apply and interview, and at the end, you tell me the job is actually a temp position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:32 AM
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Yes, that's literally how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:30 AM
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you seem riled up? lmao, she does not seem riled up in the least. Stop externalizing just cause folks are disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:19 AM
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His intentions .... For a relationship...... Or should women not fuck men who tell them they want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:16 AM
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This is why RP advocates for plate spinning, no? It reduces the risk for oneitis/attachment to women, who RP says can't ever love men back the same way as men love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:59 AM
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Yes. That said, I personally occupy an odd space of being bi and having a sexual compass that heavily relies on emotional bonding over gender. Given closeness with any friend, I am generally receptive to sex with them, lol. After all, if they're my friend, I kinda inherently like them as human beings. This already passes the threshold for sex/romance for me, even if I have no active interest, so I'd be chill to get down and dirty with them if the stars align and I trust them to not make things w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:31 AM
1

Michelada with Modello and extra Tajín My only complaint is that Modello makes me feel bloated. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 10:15 PM
2

Amarillo Amarillo has a good deal of dive bars with karaoke, a ripe country music scene, and a decent punk scene. Hell, just next month, Black Flag is performing out there. Everywhere has some type of niche subculture. You just gotta find it if you want it. If you don't put yourself out there, there's no knowing either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:47 PM
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Except sidechicks require work and effort, and they don't want that, either. They want their InstaThot hot virgin sidechicks to line up to fuck like the gay men they envy, no matter how boring and unlikable they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:58 PM
2

Aperol spritz. Cool, refreshing, hydrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:41 PM
1

Couples aren't that slick. Last time I went clubbing, my 23-yo cousin won a "hot body" contest at the club, and mannnnn, did the old (40+ yo) couples come out of the woodwork for him. He got hella courted, too. Free drinks, free drugs. And he was so naive, it was sweet. But we definitely had to keep an eye out on him, cause he was clearly not in his element with all the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:40 PM
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Some industries preferring small towns =/= "inherently easier" You've moved the goalposts so that you don't have to address the parts of my argument that challenge your assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:17 PM
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It's unusual to have so much courage, compared to all the people who let their fears limit them, but it's not unrealistic. I know several people who have done it, including myself, and not one of us had family money or help to rely on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:16 PM
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Is this a response to anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:11 PM
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briefly showed me her tinder account with thousands of likes (why the fuck would you even pick me then) She picked you because you stood out. Whether she realizes it or not, her showing you her likes count was a big ol neg.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:06 PM
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I'm gonna say this is entirely industry-dependant. Also, "random small town" has a very different connotation than "rural shithole" to me. Rural U.S. is dying. It IS possible to get good jobs out there, especially as a professional and in a place with a lot of government contracts (looking at you, TriCities, WA), but don't act like it's inherently easier or that cities are impossible for Millennials. I do consider Tulsa and Jacksonville, btw. I also include Portland, Dallas, Minneapolis, Miami, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:02 PM
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Jobs that pay well in rural shitholes? What are you talking about? Millennials are still moving to cities. They're just moving to a greater variety than just NYC/SF/LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 06:15 PM
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So you're anti-science and would prefer to rely on an uneducated gut feeling that confirms your world view. Cool. We're done, then. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:59 PM
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You don't have to believe it for it to be true. Real world examples are the basis of the research I'm speaking of. Also, Asian cultures have lower obesity because they have different food and activity cultures. Better public transportation and less urban sprawl (more walking, less suburbs and driving) and higher quality food (less refined and processed, less calorie dense, less sweet, more fibrous and nutrient-balanced) make a world of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:41 PM
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You know that you proved her point by making up your own definitions of fat and obesity that are categorically and demonstrably wrong? Weird flex but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:44 PM
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You're literally proving Carrot's point. A BMI of 24 is at the high end of the Healthy range. Overweight starts at a BMI of 25, Obese at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 08:02 PM
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It's most studied and discussed in sexual health/HIV research. The theory comes in with the Theory of Planned Behavior, which helps us identify how people elect to change behaviors and habits. The gist of it is: Shame doesn't make people choose healthier behaviors. Things that promote self-efficacy, like education, practice, empowetment, and supportive communities, like social norming and rolemodeling, do. Instead, shame is known to actually reduce healthy behaviors: it is associated with lower …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:46 PM
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Oh, you're right. I thought this was referring to the post right before this one. I didn't see the other until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 05:40 AM
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I think I love you AND Mr.Ridgway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:39 AM
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Why is Q4M? The other thread wasn't gender-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:36 AM
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Yeah, I believe plenty of women do that. I dated a woman like that in my teens. I've also dated men who tried to do the same to me - they'd follow me around the house, outside the house, still trying to argue. They wouldn't let me sleep, even as it got later and later and they knew I had to be up early. They'd call my phone until I blocked them. The secret? You don't have to "lose it." You don't have to lose emotional control or logic. People do because they have weak boundaries and a weak will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:31 AM
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According to health promotion theory and research, it doesn't. It doesn't at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 04:04 AM
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I have, but every time that has happened, it was both of us falling asleep. Sometimes we'd even wake up later with him still inside me, and then we sleepily continue... Until we fall asleep again. I can't say I can even recall who fell asleep first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 03:48 AM
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The closest thing to running away that I do is, after identifying one of us is arguing from a place of feeling and not problem-solving, call for a pause. I'll go for a run, do an hour of yoga, cook a meal, pole dance, etc., and then revisit with a clear head. Winning is very rarely my goal. Once winning becomes the scale, the argument ceases to be important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 02:54 AM
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Yooo, INTJ club! But also, I've lost count of the number of times men here in PPD have argued "how women argue" against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 02:51 AM
5

Man, I don't even have children, but I've definitely had my fair share of exhausted spooning sex before bed. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:26 PM
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I can't speak to Aaren and his relationship, but a a generally-HL woman who has experienced periods of LL, the key isn't to have sex when you don't want it. The key is to be receptive, even when you don't want it at first. Before I entered the nursing field, I did years of sex coaching and sexual health and pleasure education. My tip to couples maintaining healthy intimacy was: if one partner initiates, give yourself 5-10 minutes to see if you can get into it. And actually be open to getting int…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:23 PM
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?? I never said there was a problem. OP asked why women who aren't poor should reproduce with men who will not marry them, and you said something that was easily refuted. I corrected you. Keep up with your own conversation, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:39 PM
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No, you don't. There are poverty level requirements. Unless you know specific programs where this is not the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:55 AM
2

I prefer it tucked into gifts, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:31 AM
5

What's your actual experience with the carceral system, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:07 AM
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I would, if they fit into my life (poly, pretty gay; can't still be in the crime life), life goals (long term dreams about a cooperative homestead), and my other preferences (intelligent, attractive, well-read, hardworking).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:24 AM
2

I passed most of them along to my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:52 AM
1

I'm talking about trends over time. The shift was recent/starting within the last decade, but it's still notable among those who do incarceration research.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 02:27 AM
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You'll be happy to know that is becoming less true. Male incarceration rates have plateaud, but women's rates are increasing sharply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:52 AM
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So the only difference is that one plays games and one doesn't? Then the answer depends on if the dude is a gamer. If so, yeah, it's a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:02 AM
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Depends. How hot are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:58 AM
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Men being subject to more violent crime doesn't negate the fact that women feel safer with men. In certain US cities, I can't walk a block without being propositioned. With a man at my side, not a single man bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:28 AM
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I've found myself in the position of mentoring a 21-yo man, and this is something he just cannot get through his head. Motherfucker is out there inviting women to a studio with a mattress on the floor, folding chairs, and a computer monitor for a TV. Then he wonders why none of the women in his grad program wants a relationship with him. Wild shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 12:30 AM
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Re: Stoicism. I was raised to be stoic, and it's served me well as a woman who is comfortable with having a "masculine" personality. However, I'd argue that true, healthy Stoicism comes not from swallowing down feelings, which is a recipe for emotional stuntedness, but from a more Buddhist approach: acknowledge the feeling, feel it, and let it flow through without letting the feeling control our actions. This means being stoic is not opposite of feelings themselves, but rather a method of self-c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 12:16 AM
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Cool! So, if you're comfortable with men, dating butch women will come more naturally. Masculine energy can be pretty similar, all told. These women also will not necessarily want to be treated as queens, either, but more as teddy-bear stable-hand knights. They often like being treated as capable and strong. Watch how they treat the femmes in their life, because this will tell you how much they've internalized misogyny. If they have a long trail of "crazy" femme exes, run. Femmes are where you'l…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/20 10:33 PM
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With women everything must be easy Not at all. There's a huge learning curve - we don't have societal models for wlw courtship, for one, and most bi women are much more experience with men, which makes for an adjustment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/20 10:13 PM
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Good job. You're an exception to the rule. Doesn't mean the OB staff was wrong to question your wife about it and insist on alternative methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:45 PM
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Queer woman with a good deal of experience dating and loving women here. My first question is: what type of woman are you attracted to?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/20 08:11 PM
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Love is a choice Be cute, men will treat you nicer Oh, I forgot these! I was also taught this by my Grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:50 PM
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I mean, statistically, the rhythm method isn't great. Anything that relies so much on human perfection carries risk. Hell, OB nurses have a joke about this: What do you call a woman who uses the rhythm method? Pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:48 PM
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They treated her as an object and treated me like a person. I encountered this a LOT in undergrad. I was a freshman giving advice to seniors, because the senior women all got it in their head that they had to fuck first in order to get a date. Me, on the other hand, was going on regular dates and genuinely didn't understand who TF taught these women such trash. I'm not at all pinkpill, but this is one place I find their critique of neolib feminism salient. When "sex positive" just means "fuck th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:23 PM
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I think that I entered the world of men and dating better prepared than my peers. I grew up under no delusions about what is expected of me or what to expect of men, even if those men love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:09 PM
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My dad's advice was entirely about how men are essentially trash: men are liars, they will cheat, they are only interested in sex, they are dumb and unevolved, they will abuse if they think they can get away with it. His advice was to be tough, because I'm cute and petite, and bad men like women like me. He taught me how to throw a punch at 8 and gave me my first pocket knife at 10. My mom didn't give me much advice or guidance, but her mom did. Grandma taught me the importance of appearance and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 06:33 PM
0

Huh! How rare. I'm also INTJ. Mind if I ask what your husband is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:57 PM
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There's drama and there's bullshit. I consider them two different things, tbh. At the end of the day, a lot of the drama comes from monog couples turning polyam, strict relationship hierarchies (and for these people, the bullshit can't be spread around, cause then the primaries get pissy and territorial), fewer models of healthy polyam (no one's raised knowing how to do this well, so a lot of folks are trying to figure it out as they go), too many people thinking polyam is just fucking around (v…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:59 PM
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Not that that date, we didn't. True to his word, he didn't even make a pass at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:24 AM
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I don't know what it says about me that I'm really fucking feeling this post right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:46 AM
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That may be true, lol. I find people in general have a lot of needs, but this might be generational... And maybe, unfortunately, what I attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:21 AM
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It's true. I got pasta and then sex when I was ready, and I introduced him to his now-fiance with a glowing review of his behavior during his bachelor dates. Dude fed a bitch pasta, man. And didn't go back on his word. This man's marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:38 AM
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This is honestly a big part of why I'm polyam. Our bullshit is spread out. No one is anyone's everything or trying to meet 100% of a person's needs. It's not for everyone, but it works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:35 AM
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I historically am a weird bitch and don't invite people to my place at all until I know I'm serious about them. I prefer to stay at their place, where I can leave whenever I want - after sex or after a night of rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 03:20 AM
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Aw, I actually like foot guys. They're always so... Repressed and sad, with prudish wives. And the good ones give mean foot massages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:41 AM
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Today, I woke up with my cat using my head as a pillow while she snored and drooled. At first, I was like, wtf, Madam St. Clair? But then I realized, after years of petting her and feeding her, what could I expect? I basically asked for it. So, yes, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:40 AM
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Ah, I see. So if you're alone, then you will always consent fuck them when they make a pass. I imagine this includes bosses/professors who meet you in their office? Stopping by a friend's house real quick? Hitching a ride? I imagine this also includes women friends who may make a pass at you when you're at their house. After all, despite you saying (preferred gender’s) What does preference matter, if being alone with a person is automatic consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:33 AM
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... unless the person doesn't consent to sex. Unless you're saying that you fuck every scrub who makes a pass at you, even the catcallers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 02:03 AM
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There's a hell of a lot of room between "a come on" and "sex." No one needs consent to make a pass, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:56 AM
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So, your view is changed? Your OP is re: consent to sex. Now you're changing it to: consent to a come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:53 AM
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You didn't answer my question. I asked: Did I consent to sex? Not if I was dumb or if men lie for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:50 AM
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A scenario I lived when I was 20: At the end of a very rigorous kayaking date, I say goodbye. He invites me to his place. I say no, I'm not interested in sex yet. He says he wasn't thinking sex, just pasta. I say I don't believe him. He gets upset, insisting he's really just trying to extend the date with food. I go with him, believing him. So, to you, did I consent to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:43 AM
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I don’t think sex (or any human phenomena) can exist without ego, expectations, and performance. The male ego dominates fucking everything, including fucking itself. Even his attraction to you and desire to fuck you in the first place has to do with his own ego. This is interesting. I'll think more on it, because I agree with some of this but not all of it. Sex isn't like that for me, but that doesn't mean that it's not inherent for others. I know plenty of women get upset when her man doesn't o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:32 PM
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Didn't you get the memo? Us bifolk don't get friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:05 PM
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That's honestly adorable. I've only had one pocket BF. :( 5'2" bartender, muralist, and leathersmith with full sleeve tattoos. Had the most game I've ever seen - I was at his bar to troll for stripclub clients, and the next thing I knew, I was making out with him in the alley behind his bar during his "cigarette break." Ended up dating for a few months. We worked better as a tag team than a couple, but he's still one of the few short men who made me feel feminine and soft when I towered over him…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:34 PM
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Reznor is 5'7", so more purse BF than pocket BF, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:11 PM
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Yeah, another woman replied to me saying she enjoyed this! So it's definitely individual, and I imagine it has a lot to do with how you go about it. I'm more pleasure-centric than orgasm-centric, so I'm not the right audience for someone who is very orgasm-focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:59 PM
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Pleasure isn't all about orgasms, is my stance. So, invested in my pleasure? Great, cause then we're both invested here. (That is, as long as they're actually invested and not just using "I'm a pleaser" as an excuse for stubborn behavior, like pushing to give oral when I say no or moving my hand away from my clit so he can rub it instead of me.) Sex should be about mutual pleasure and play, after all. The issue is when I'm not going to orgasm and they're clearly working at it too intensely, igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:53 PM
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When it becomes an issue of ego, expectations, and performance, I'm actively turned off and will not orgasm. Being too orgasm-focused (versus just pleasure focused) does nothing for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:35 PM
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You enjoy getting your partner off because it's a turn-on for you. This is great and I'm not shaming you for it at all, but you admit yourself that you have selfish motivations for wanting to please your partner. This is pretty key. I've been with a couple of men like this, and it can be a real drag. I can always tell when a man is trying to get me off for his own ego and pleasure. Gets worse when men learn I'm multiorgasmic. Then it becomes this weird game, like my vag is a controller, orgasms …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:59 PM
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Okay, so you're bad at discernment and choosing based off your values and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:45 AM
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Most women want long-term relationships, sub types included. If you're seeing women with the intent of an exclusive LTR, and none of these women want one with you, then the problem is likely you. You're either choosing poorly (gravitating to a type who isn't interested in exclusivity/monogamy) or not exactly LTR-material.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:45 AM
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You are just trading being soft with being brittle. Phew, this line right here. I agree wholeheartedly. It reminds me of something that runs through Millennial and GenZ feminine spaces: be soft but not weak. Be hard but not brittle is a good flip side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 02:30 AM
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This feels like a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 02:24 AM
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letting women in the workforce sped the technological progress up. Low class women were always in the workforce. Don't let UMC history define all of reality for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:19 AM
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What do you mean, "so what?" You disagreed with me based off something I never said. I clarified. And now you post this random ass rant? God, some of you PPD men are tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:15 PM
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My experience in the sex trade has taught me that there are few women as ruthless and practical as an attractive Eastern European woman. These men are so easily fooled by the theatrics of submission, they don't realize how easily they are played.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/20 10:40 PM
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Never said it was more common. I said the family unit has grown and expanded with our expanding legal protections for diverse family units.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:33 PM
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I'd even say the family unit has grown and expanded with the legal recognition of gay marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:06 PM
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You're making up definitions. If you had the children in marriage, they are not "illegitimate."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:11 PM
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Yeah, the whole situation was very sad. She came from a shitty background (overbearing, tyrannical father and a mother who taught her that it was a woman's place to serve, very religious), and her (21-yo) ex caught her when she was 15 at an anime convention. She's doing okay, now, though. Got into therapy, fucked around some after me, is working as a sex educator at a local DV org. Dabbled as a prodomme for a bit so she could piss on men's faces, lol, but she didn't take to the work. All in all …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:06 PM
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This rant is suspiciously specific. Sounds like you could have been a better role model to the young men in your life. That said, I don't disagree that helicopter parenting and coddling ruin children. But that's about all I agree with, because I was taught to bootstrap but to also have compassion, which tells me you're politicizing too much and painting too broad a stroke with your assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:06 AM
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I had a client who liked to call me mommy when orgasming. The first time totally threw me for a loop, but then it became a thing. Totally ignited a MommyDomme fetish in me, too, which I'm only a little mad about. I had a different client who talked about himself in the 3rd person when fucking: "Oh yeah, Mister Smith is so fucking good, he's hitting it deep. He's gonna make her cum so hard. Yeah, Mister Smith, fuck her." I once had sex with a very sheltered woman who was new to women and had only…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 11:59 PM
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I used to go after my shift let out at the club, and man, do I miss that 3 AM gym time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 10:22 PM
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Everything I've done in my life has been to push past the shitty white trash circumstances of my upbringing and become the nice Jewish lady I was always meant to be. Not white nor Jewish, but mixed-race and grew up shit poor and - yes. Exactly this. I also don't hate the new me at all. Why would I?Being adaptable - a chameleon, a wolf in sheep's clothing, practical and relentless - is absolutely something I love about myself. Hell, I even still love many of the lessons of my upbringing, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 10:19 PM
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Pain, humiliation, degradation, etc. I'm a sexual sadist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:28 PM
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Meh. I get aroused by men crying, but this is obviously not something you can generalize for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:48 PM
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How did you find yourself in a triad relationship? I have too much of a wandering eye so I’m wary of committing to anyone just yet. I figured I needed to get it out of my system first. Your relationship dynamic is very interesting though, how do you all navigate it? My situation is pretty unusual, I think. I met one of my partners while stripping (she was my work wife, lol), and she was already in a polyam relationship with someone else. I joined them and became their 3rd, although we all have p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:36 PM
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I don't know what study you're talking about, tbh, but other studies have found this to be the case. I will say, as a bi woman, it unfortunately means getting shit from both insecure men and insecure women in relationships. Men think bi women are sluts and pressure them into sex, abuse them. Women think bi women are sluts and abuse them for having been with men. Everyone is jealous and controlling. It's stupid as shit but unfortunately common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:05 PM
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It was my first time! I really loved it and can't wait to go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:56 PM
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Says the dude with a good woman whose wealthy family you're partially reliant on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:46 PM
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I went on a 4 night backpacking trip on Big Bend last week, and wow, it was stupendous. Also reminds me to hit the gym. 9 miles a day with 25 lbs on my back wore me TF out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:38 PM
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I'm also bi, having dated women throughout several major cities in the U.S., and I echo basically all that you said. Men are stupid easy, and so in comparison, yes, dating women is harder. It's also just different - interacting with masculine energy versus feminine energy requires different strategies. (I think this is why a lot of bi and experimenting women struggle - their whole experience basis is with men, and they don't know how to be with feminine women.) While men are easier, I should als…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:33 PM
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Just FYI: Abuse rate is highest among bisexuals, regardless of whether they're with men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:03 PM
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Femme4femme is a thing and has nothing to do with sexual dominance/submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:02 PM
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I was clearly making a comment on your assertion re: corruption. You took that and ranted about unrelated shit, which I made clear in my second comment. I am being quite specific. Your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 06:21 AM
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I mean, okay. This diatribe has nothing to do with the comment I replied to, but A+ for effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:54 AM
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely. lmao, "corrupts" as in, not willing to needlessly settle for less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:02 AM
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That doesn't matter any more than women saying TRP doesn't work on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:58 PM
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You're not a woman, so you can't ever know whether or how The Rules work/don't work to meet women's needs and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:54 PM
1

When people talk Western beauty, they're not talking about indigenous peoples in the Western hemisphere. They're basically exclusively talking about white/European appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:52 PM
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I wouldn't say Mamoa is Western. He's very strongly and clearly half Native Pacific Islander.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:26 PM
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I feel this is drastically changing for gen z’ers. Good point! That's interesting to consider. I am young enough to have gone through puberty with the internet at my fingertips, but that's not to say the internet isn't very different nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:22 PM
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Time, effort, and risk =/= "work"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:57 PM
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It works more than you think. The issue is that it takes self-discipline and flies in the face of the neolib "sex positive" culture so common on college campuses over the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 10:35 PM
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So masculinity in this context is dictated by what women find attractive? Based off your explanation, I'd say that fame being an attractive trait is feminine, since women find fame attractive but men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 07:56 PM
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Missionary: push the guy off and onto his back. Doggy: move away, turn around, push him onto his back. If transitioning into these positions, grab him and pull him between my legs as I lie down. Or stick my ass in the air with my face down. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:28 PM
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Tbh, a lot of women - especially young women - don't know. They're not trying to be coy. They just genuinely are not as experienced with their own pleasure, oftentimes because they have a more responsive libido and because they didn't grow up masturbating, like boys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:23 PM
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I think we're already seeing critical mass. Why do you think these men were raised without positive male role models? The men in their lives, including their fathers, weren't positive male role models to begin with. Should these men breed, they'll repeat the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:26 PM
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Man, you're like a broken fucking record. How many times do you have to share that stupid ass meme in a single day? I've counted 3 so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:00 PM
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Then save up, like you do for anything else you want that requires money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:40 PM
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These people are like entitled children. They want all the reward with none of the time, effort, or risk. Just a couple of days ago there were folks in this sub arguing about why being likable was too burdensome a barrier for sex and relationships. That it's unfair to have to change at all to be appealing. I feel like too many of these men grew up coddled by their mommies and that's their barometer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:38 PM
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LOL men get tested far less than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:34 PM
1

What are you talking about? Americans don't think 15/18 is pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:19 PM
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Sure! Though some of this is very me-specific, versus universal issues. 19: She never envisioned leaving our hometown, and I wanted to travel. 23: Values-wise, he was very traditional/conservative, but he was sexually submissive and very kinky. Unfortunately, he was insecure about this and about our sexual dynamic, where I was dominant. This came to head with him lashing out in public: lying to his male friends about our sex lives (including explicit, pornographic details about me), barking orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:40 PM
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I will note that, having been loosely following TRP for approaching a decade now, there IS an issue of interpretation by men, which turns into different definitions being thrown out in discussion. I've read several different definitions of AWALT, 80/20 rule, etc. in this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:30 PM
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I don't have children and have never been married. The people who proposed to me were good for a short time but not a lifetime, due to key incompatibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:55 AM
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Not married, and it's not in my purview at this point in my life. I'm open to it for legal reasons, though - I have great health insurance, and if one of my sweeties needed it, I'd be amenable. That sad, I was proposed to 4 times in my life: at 19, 23, 25, and 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:46 AM
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Even computer engineering is a different beast than computer science. At my undergrad, my C.E. friends flat out disdained the C.S. majors - it was the C.S. lab that smelled of unwashed, awkward men who didn't know how to work in groups and blamed their shit social skills on their "high" IQs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:54 PM
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Man, you just had a whole ass argument with and by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 11:38 AM
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Lol you just had a whole, long ass argument with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:21 AM
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Interesting! I suppose I've always related punishment to death, which I associate with femininity (duality of life). But I realize they're actually different things, so I'll have to check these authors out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:11 PM
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And I, another non-piller, think men who are willing to pay more than $5 on a date are more likely to be discerning and less likely to treat women cheaply. But that's neither here nor there. OP isn't saying women are demanding anything of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:04 PM
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I'm more his friend than hers, so I only know what he's willing to share with me. He's always been very conservative, very religious, and very stubborn. I've been telling him since we were 14 that he needed to buckle down and plan ahead to have the type of marriage his parents had, but needless to say, he didn't become a doctor the way his dad had been, and he didn't marry a woman like his mom (uneducated, could garden for their food, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 10:02 PM
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Lol, fair. I liken the definition to one of power and agency, but I can definitely see how men would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 09:54 PM
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Are you really telling me that you think RP men are interested in and working to find long term partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:39 PM
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Dating is more than just numbers. Hell, even numbers games are more than just numbers alone. They often involve attention, reasoning, and skill. The whole ass dating market would benefit from more men being discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:37 PM
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There's plenty of old fashioned women who would love to be homemakers and raise children, but it's almost impossible now in most major cities. Hell, I even know progressive women who value and want the same. I have a friend in TX who is currently divorcing his wife because she will not consider being a SAHM. When I asked him if he made SAHM money, he said no - they'd barely be scraping by with his income alone and would have to rely immensely on her family. So he'd rather his family live in pove…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 08:26 PM
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It takes some experimenting, and most of all, getting outside of your bubbles. I happen to think that leaving one's hometown helps people grow immensely, and this is one of the ways it does that. It's easy to think the whole world is one single way when your whole world is concentrated in one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:51 PM
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That's so real. I have a similar dating strategy, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:33 PM
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Paying a bit more also probably makes YOU more selective. Instead of going on 15 $5 dollar dates with whoever will agree, you go on 5 $15 dates with women you actually may actually want to get to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:27 PM
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This is absolutely true for both men and women. Since I first entered the OLD scene ~9 years ago, I made a habit of changing my profile locations whenever I visited somewhere new. I still do this. The differences between rural/city, as well as by state, region, country, are pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:05 PM
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the kind of women you'd want to be with won't require that. No, you're talking about the kind of woman you don't want to be with. OP is happy to pay for dates. He is happy with his dating life. It's not up to you to decide otherwise. Your comment doesn't even try to respond to OP's point about rural versus urban dating scene differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:02 PM
2

Judith Butler has one of my favorite definitions of masculinity, which is effectively, "to be male is to define yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:00 PM
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There's the Bunny Ranch outside of Vegas, if you want it legal. I second being communicative about being a virgin/the experience you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:24 AM
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No, I'm not. Love and relationships =/= approval and self-worth from men, much less in non-hetero, non-Western spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:24 PM
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No, I'm not justifying. I'm disagreeing with and adding clarity to your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:03 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding something key here. Female worth/value is not necessarily a matter of male approval specifically. That's just the reading because most people are hetero, and a lot of people's framing is pretty white/European. It's about love, being loved romantically, and partnering with someone with whom one can make a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:34 PM
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You'll have better luck meeting through friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:04 AM
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Unless she has endometriosis, which in case, a hot water bottle + trying to steel herself to the body-wracking pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:48 PM
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Surprisingly astute. A lot of women play with their boobs a lot. It's actually very comforting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:43 PM
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This is why women need to be brutal in their selection of reproductive partners. We will be hated for not giving low value men a chance, for being "gold diggers," for being unwilling to be with men who are still figuring their shit out... But we're hated just the same for choosing poorly. We'll be judged by men for the actions of men who decide to abandon their children. It's our fault no matter what, so it's important to act accordingly if we want to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:38 PM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:06 AM
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I'm anxious avoidant. What makes a difference here is self-awareness and willingness to work on one's shit. Also, personal opinion, the way to deal with anxious avoidant people is through frank communication and giving space. Let her know you are interested, but you're not interested in playing games and that she makes you feel unwanted. Then the ball is in her park. It's your choice, then, to continue dating, to cultivate hobbies, work out, focus on your career, etc. If she is willing to work o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:28 AM
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Lol you're the 1 Blue I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:40 PM
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Blue flairs? Where? As of this point (430 PM Central), I see maybe 1 Blue fair commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:31 PM
1

Oh damn, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:18 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:17 PM
1

Poppy is one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 10:00 PM
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Lol, dude, your commentary has nothing to do with what I said. No amount of education will change the fact that you're spouting random shit at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:54 PM
2

I would like to see an actual survey of the PPD userbase at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:51 PM
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This is interesting. My perception is that there are very, very few BP folks. There are a lot of Purple, especially among women, but I can count on one hand the Blues. The men, to me, clearly are either Red or Blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:49 PM
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I have no fucking clue what your drivel has to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 06:28 PM
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Majority of women aren’t cold enough to abandon their own baby or kill their baby , Tell that to femicide/female infanticide in a number of countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:58 AM
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Yes. Absolutely. Looking good in photos is a skill that can be developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:12 PM
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Same kink. That said, give me a fat 7 over an average-width 8 any day. I once had sex with a man who said his dick was 9 inches. I believed him. He couldn't get 100% hard - ever; it was honestly kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 06:04 PM
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Sort of but not really. It was more of a threat than a confrontation. A year after I cut him out of rotation (during which he continued to chat, email, text me about missing me, contrary to my explicitly stated boundaries re: no contact), we crossed paths at a function. He tried to be too friendly, and I told him that if he didn't back off, I was going to have to make his up and coming life as a published, social-good-type attorney very uncomfortable. The internet hates a white dude profiting of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:41 AM
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Yeah, it actually was. 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 12:38 AM
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Honestly? I laughed and considered it a bullet dodged. This was a man who had been trying to fast-track me to the wife lane, saying that he loved how brilliant I am, how much he learns from me, how I make him a better man. I had resisted firmly and without compromise. I guess I could have been bitter about it all, but tbh, I'm always pleased when my intuition is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:32 PM
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Only once. I was 24 and dating a legal clerk who had graduated 2 years prior from one of the top law schools in the nation. I learned after dumping him that he had been writing articles based off things I had talked to him about and was getting published in national newspapers and well-respected legal journals for these pitches. At first I thought it was a coincidence, but then I came across a third op-ed, and he started citing my life experiences as "ground truths" and straight up plagiarized q…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:17 PM
1

I liked old Johnny Drop until a friend told me he looks like my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:46 PM
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*repertoire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:12 PM
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First boyfriend. I was just starting to experiment with boys (had been exclusively with girls up until that point), and he was in my friend group, though we weren't friends at that point. Half-Vietnamese, half-white. 5'4" and slouched shoulders, too big a forehead, thin hair. He had the worst acne I've still ever seen on a person; it was all over his cheeks and forehead, huge and red and pus-y. Everyone - even his friends - gave me shit for being with him, because he was ugly, talked a lot of sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:55 PM
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You're talking about HSV in that first paragraph, not HPV. The rest of what you said has no bearing on what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:37 AM
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Not true. One in two sexually active persons will contract an STI by age 25. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that nearly 20 million new STIs occur every year in this country, half of those among young people aged 15–24. Researchers estimate 80% of people will get HPV in their lifetime, while 1 in 8 people ages 14-24 have genital herpes. Yet close to 90% of people with genital herpes don't know they have it. Oh, and HPV and herpes both can transmit even when using condoms…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:28 AM
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a lot of "virginal" guys are more intellectual and better in that department (framing, kink, etc.) Yeah, tbh, I really have a thing for sexually inexperienced men. Their refractory period is often short, they are eager, they follow direction well (without the ego of someone who has fucked a lot and assumes that means he's good), they love to make out, tend to enjoy foreplay a lot (a man who hasn't had the opportunity to touch tiddies much will absolutely worship them), they're responsive (I enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:22 AM
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I don't believe in self worth. I value myself on nothing, I just do things and don't care. This is so fucking sad, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:03 AM
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My experience with fuckboys says that 9/10 of them have never been tested for STDs in the first place. They don't know if they have herpes and they sure as hell aren't telling their ONS that they have herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:02 AM
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Enjoy the Decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 10:51 PM
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I won't say my mind about anything has changed, but I've learned a good deal. Namely, I have more in common than the older tradcon types than I do the young men, and that's 100% because I feel the young ones act like spoiled, whiny children. I've learned that my disgust at ETD types is visceral. I find these men pathetic, weak-willed, low value trash - lower, even, than your run of the mill RP misogynist. I have some thoughts about what has made these (mostly young) people so weak, and these tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 10:22 PM
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I mean, sure, it's not a guarantee breakup, but the odds of a breakup are very high. Of the 3 couples my age I know who have been together since h.s., one has a man who cheats regularly, one should be broken up (totally toxic, he resents her for him not having had casual sex in college), and the third is healthy and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:58 AM
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This would be out of character for my relationships with men. Typically, the conversation would start with us trying to figure out lunch. It's 2 PM and we're both hungry, so he'd bring it up, or I would. If he's busy/in the middle of something, I'd offer to make us lunch. But tbh, 8/10 times, we'd both just make lunch together: prep at the same time, and then as I assembled, he'd start putting stuff away. I can't fathom a situation where any man I'm with would ask this of me in the circumstances…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:53 AM
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I'd rather go with one who dresses up more casually. You can always make the request, if you're going for the GFE.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:11 AM
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Current feminism is very varied. Did you two discuss things like raising boys, etc. before you left her?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:54 PM
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Where is the full human experience? This is basically my stance. It's better to live, and that means loving. It means losing. It means learning to pick yourself back up, stronger. Life is full of risks. Not taking them denies us the ability to grow and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:54 PM
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But I was told by RP boys here that shit tests are a masculine behavior. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:42 PM
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Forreal. Fucking cringe, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:40 PM
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Why did you reply to me a second time, 7 hours after your first reply? Do you bitch when TRP tells you to lift, lose weight, get hobbies, make yourself more attractive, too? People told OP where to find promiscuous women. It's people like you who are coming up with excuses about why it's too hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:40 PM
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You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're just making shit up to justify why you don't put yourself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:34 PM
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You're good at coming up with excuses, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 03:57 PM
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All this sounds like a bunch of excuses about why men shouldn't try for what they want, but I'll bite. Theater sluts absolutely fuck tech crews. There are also women in tech crews, even. Theater tech doesn't have to be its own career. You don't have to overhaul your life. Again, it's an extra curricular. One that gets people socializing, using their bodies in functional ways, teaches good skills (building, using power tools), and increases access to casual sex. It's a good option for these young…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 03:54 PM
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So their advice is to get in a niche like that .Nevermind that you have to actually make good music/art to do that and sacrifice any hope for a high earning future. What tf are you talking about? Have you not heard of extra curriculars? Theater needs tech crew, and they do well, too. You don't have to sacrifice anything. You just have to get your ass out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 10:32 AM
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Because it's your only life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 10:03 AM
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.... Learn the skill. Do it anyway. Take control of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 09:41 AM
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Interacting with people will teach you how to act. That's it. Every time you get out there, interact with people, you have the opportunity to learn. Skills come with practice. I was in theater for h.s., and folks were fucking all over theater and band. We were losers, awkward as shit, but folks were fucking. Beta orbiters cause themselves. Take control of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:49 AM
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Women themselves can also be intimidating to men. There are a lot of weak men out there, and there are even non-weak men who find themselves insecure and uncertain in the face of an intelligent, sharp-tongued woman who carries herself well. The men of here obviously disagree, but most of them are barely adults, autists, idiots, and/or anti-society. These folks need daddies on the internet to teach them how to "maintain frame," yet they'll argue as though they naturally know anything beyond their…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:54 AM
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I mean, yeah, obviously a lot of people flirt to show intention. I'd even say that's the case for most people. I've never encountered anyone who says that all flirtation is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:14 PM
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Weird to me that this is about women specifically. Flirts flirt. Flirts especially flirt with people who are fun to flirt with. Boring, awkward, and unattractive people are not fun to flirt with. But also: friendliness in general is often misinterpreted as flirting, which definitely muddles the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:03 PM
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They're not helping you create a warm loving community where hot women walk around showing off their cleavage. Right?? This is why we can't have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:35 PM
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No, the 24+ hour wait period is not rooted in provider needs nor interests. It is faster and easier for hospitals to get things done the same day. They are medically unnecessary and actually require more resources of the hospital. This is why they are not required for effectively any other medical service, no matter how rare or specialized. Men bitching about child support is off-topic. Interesting, but off-topic. I think it's worth you posting about it here in PPD, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:25 PM
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LOL cause you think this is about increasing numbers of abortions? That that's what anyone wants? In an ideal world, abortion would be rare. Making it rare is about prevention: mandatory sex education in schools and free, easily available contraception. Anyway, I'm not debating with someone who is anti-legal abortion. You have a good day, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:19 PM
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Hospital bills and being tried for murder sure as Hell aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:18 PM
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It only is a problem when all hospitals performing abortions are far. Yes, and 38% of women in the country don't live somewhere where any clinic provides abortions. That's literally what I'm saying is one of the problems. The 24+ hour wait period isn't rooted in science. If it were, I'd be for it. And again, I'm not talking about Russia. I'm talking about why women in the United States do not have 100% of the choice here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:16 PM
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Waiting periods of 24+ hours means that the cost of abortion increases. It means pregnant women have to travel out of town, take time off of work, pay for a hotel, and pay for additional appointments. Abortions cost anywhere from $450-$3,000, all told. With 40% of people not having $400 in savings, "just paying for it" without insurance coverage becomes difficult. I'm not talking about Russia and don't know what this has to do with anything here. From 2011-2017, 32 states in the United States ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:03 PM
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Yep. They're not here to just "enjoy the decline." They're here to spread their anti-social malignance in a race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:50 PM
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It's more than just "some." 18 states have less than 5 abortion clinics in the whole state. 38% of reproductive-aged women live in counties without a single clinic. 27 states require a waiting period between counseling and abortion of at least 24 hours, and 14 of these states require two separate trips. 12 states restrict abortion coverage under private insurance. In 2019 alone, 9 states have passed laws banning early (<22 week) abortions. The only women who have 100% control are those with enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:34 PM
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I expect that every person here who believes TRP is right to hate on single moms because pregnancy is 100% a choice are politically active and advocate for easy access to contraception and abortion services. Over the last decade, abortion services have been under attack across the U.S. There is less access now than a decade ago as a result. Women's legal rights surrounding pregnancy is not a given; they are under attack and have to be protected. Feel free to absolve all men of the children they …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:29 PM
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Yeah, I mean, I imagine there are women out there for whom this isn't the case, but I can't fathom feeling complimented by a bunch of ugly men orbiting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:35 PM
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It comes up every time the discussion of paying for dates comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:51 PM
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This type of info belongs in the profile, not the starting message.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:51 AM
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I can't tell if I should reply under automod or not, but I'd broadly argue that only competent people are reasonable LTR material for fellow competent people. I also would add some nuance: people don't have to be competent in the same way. One of my sweeties blows me out of the water re: scheduling, maintaining relationships (keeping track of birthdays, sending cards, etc.), but I'm competent in other areas: meal-prepping, navigating any type of "official" shit (taxes, banks, health insurance, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:47 AM
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I was talking broadly about conventionally attractive men versus conventionally ugly men within the context of violence against women. I never meant to imply that attraction should be negotiable or that it doesn't vary. No one should be with a man they find ugly, period.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/19 12:11 AM
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I usually lurk here, but I do want to mention that my experience stripping taught me that attractive men are no better, at least in club settings. They may not resent beautiful women as much as ugly men do, but they violate boundaries/are sexually violent just as often, if not more. The best men were fairly average: not ugly enough to hate beautiful women, not attractive enough to think they can get away with their shit. There were obviously outliers, but we learn quick at the clubs that male at…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/19 11:54 PM
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I don't think consumerism is a good thing in the grand scheme of the earth and environment, but it can't be denied that spending money drives economic growth. That would be true regardless of who is spending, and that means women's spending drives capital, which many folks consider to be a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 07:53 PM
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In theory, I could, in the sense that I'm happy to play the beard, if the man were self-aware enough and if he were down to be polyam. In practice, well, conversion therapy is torture and doesn't work, and I don't date men who are very religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 07:32 PM
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It's all fun and games until she leaves you for another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:58 PM
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Yes, women stimulate the economy more by driving demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 07:14 AM
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You make a good point. I'll have to look at the research again when I have time. Thanks for the link!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:07 AM
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I'm always happy to read contradicting research, so, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:58 AM
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Oh Jesus. That website says nothing about P values. P values are probabilities as they relate to statistical testing. https://www.dummies.com/education/math/statistics/what-a-p-value-tells-you-about-statistical-data/ I'm done here, though. I'm not your teacher, and your ignorance was cute until you doubled down on being an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:57 AM
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That's not how p values work. The smaller the p value, the greater the strength of the evidence. Keep downvoted me, though. It really gets your point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:34 AM
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A p value of 0.006 indicates strong evidence. It's obviously not as strong as p<=0.001, but it's still strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:25 AM
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I'm sorry to tell you this, hun, but you might be dating idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:17 AM
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The field is actually moving to using the term STI, for sexually transmitted infection. That said, yeah, doctors don't often call HSV1 a STD/STI to their patients, largely because 80%+ of the population has it, and STD stigma is immense. They don't even test for it and will often refuse to, because most patients don't have the knowledge base to understand a "positive" results for it. HSV1 is really mostly set apart due to how common it is, and the fact that most people contract it as children. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:16 AM
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Tbh, anyone with a good ass looks hot cleaning the baseboards. And for big women? Gotta love that jiggle. Yum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:07 AM
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I think you'd be surprised about the state of women 27-45 these days. We're mowing our own lawns and fixing our own shit (or paying the pros). I even know women who prefer "men's" chores - they're less common (1 every month versus daily, weekly) and get the woman alone in her own head, versus in the house, where she's likely trying to cook and clean with children/her man around. For older (50+), every woman I know cooks every dinner, gardens, cleans. The husband does do the disagreeable chores, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 01:06 AM
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I linked two studies already. I never indicated it was the same, or that one gender has the aging game better than the others. Time ticks for everyone, like you say, so pretending men can just churn out kids in their old age is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:42 AM
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Knowing someone's age doesn't derail the chat. It adds context. I don't know a single woman over the age of 25 who will not go to a movie alone. Like, literally 0. The idea that you personally know "lots" tells me you're young or surround yourself with young women. And there's nothing wrong with that, but again, it's important context. But stay mad,bro. It's the internet, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:40 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:30 AM
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Yes, dual income households have better purchasing power and more easily are able to buy a house. Men also benefit from this, in that they are literally buying into the single greatest factor to perpetuate intergenerational wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:29 AM
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omfg lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:28 AM
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Pretty sure what women love more is a man who shares household chores equitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:23 AM
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You don't have to consider it a STD for it to be one. It is a STD. Other STDs can and do get transmitted outside of sexual activity. For example, currently, most HIV outbreaks are due to needle sharing, courtesy of the opioid epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:11 AM
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You can get other STDs without sexual contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:07 AM
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In my personal experience, it's always been men who push for cohabitation. Cohabitation benefits men more, since women tend to carry the burden of household chores. Is this where we debate our experiences, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:35 PM
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... This doesn't refute HSV1 being an STD (or, as is more commonly taught in med schools, "STI").
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:28 PM
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HSV1 is an STD. This is taught in medical schools nationwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:23 PM
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How can it not be a STD? It is lifelong. It can transmit to genitals. It should shape sexual activity, esp leading up to and during outbreaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:22 PM
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Nope. Research indicates decreased quality starting as young as 30. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21116277 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24577047
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 11:03 PM
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Had any kind of sexually transmitted disease. 80%+ of the population has HSV1, and doctors don't test for it. Good luck, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:32 PM
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while men have the luxury of not needing to rush this Meh. Men's good sperm is on a clock, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:21 PM
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This is my perception, too. Like, I still get hit on by 19-22 year olds a good deal, even after they learn I'm 30. It's the 50+ yo men talk to me about how they'd never date older than 22-24 (usually assuming I'm within that age range, funnily enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 09:45 PM
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Link to your study? Here is mine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689943/ we found that consortships were used more frequently by low-ranking fathers... This finding suggests that lower-ranking males use consortships to ‘steal’ females from high-ranking males. Low-ranking fathers sired offspring with younger, less desirable females and appeared to use the consortship strategy more often than higher-ranking fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 09:24 PM
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he adamantly wants it with me very quickly Of course he fucking does. He's a low rent loser whose birth-mommy and girlfriend-mommy are literally supporting his sorry, unwashed ass. He's desperate to keep you hooked to him. For the love of God, do not marry or reproduce with this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:50 PM
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This definitely goes both ways. Just look at the divorce rates of women with cancer - and who instigates the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:34 PM
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This is where I stand. I am a fountain of empathy, compassion, and love. I also fully believe that people need to proactively take care of themselves. I believe that this type of care required a support network. I supported my last man during a period of disability following a car accident. I supported him during his depression after. He supported himself by making sure his friends and family were also there for him. He supported himself by going to PT and seeing a mental health therapist. He ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:13 PM
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I mentioned this in another thread, but it's on topic here: among chimpanzees, only lower status males mate guard (instill situational monogamy) during mating season. The higher status males have no need to, since they naturally have their pick. For those who like evopsych, this confirms what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:00 PM
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To be fair, I ask myself this often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:39 PM
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Fun tidbit: among chimpanzees, only low status males mate guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:28 PM
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Confirmation bias is a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 07:00 AM
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No. These men want low N girls - who also fuck them within 3 dates. I'll @ you the next time this comes up so you can argue with the boys who make these claims, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:55 AM
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Yes, I do, in fact, do what I want. I'm personally not worried about any of this. I'm only talking about what I've read from men in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:53 AM
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LPT: no fucking shit. I'll @ you the next time PPD trash argues otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:49 AM
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I've heard it several times here in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:48 AM
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We exacerbate the problem no matter what. If we fuck around and admit to it: we're whores who rode the cock carousel. If we fuck around and lie: we "create" (lol, as though men are totally lacking in agency) jaded men. But also: If we don't fuck around: we're showing we are not attracted to men, that we're playing games, and no man who is high value or alpha will ever wait for us. Alas. We're fucked even if we don't fuck. We're fucked when we do. Men are fucked regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:33 AM
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No, I don't. Mate guarding is a sign of insecurity and lack of trust. At most, I want a man to be receptive when I'm explicitly (and yes, I'm very explicit here) looking for a buffer for men who don't take no for an answer. I can and do handle myself, but there are men out there who unfortunately only respect other men in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:26 AM
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Ba dum tss
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 03:00 AM
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Spain and Portugal colonization, specifically. Again, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was adding to the conversation of the historical function of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:37 AM
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But the idea these new civilizations had no concept of marriage I never made that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:34 AM
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I'm not talking politics. I'm talking history and the way colonizing countries enforced marriage in colonized lands. I was adding to your assessment, which I do agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:19 AM
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To add to this: marriage is also* a function of state interests. Marriage requires men to care for their children. It was used as a tool to hold state armsmen accountable to the populations they left behind in colonization and war. *Added the "also"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:09 AM
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I'm also non-monogamous, and yes, I agree in part. I do think it is growing in popularity, and some places see it in excess (SF especially), but it's still uncommon in overall numbers. I even don't see this changing. Non-monog is hard, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 02:02 AM
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Yeah. Foot fetishists come from a wide variety of backgrounds, so the idea that it arises due to puritanical upbringing doesn't hold true for the men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:26 AM
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I do think you'd be surprised. Most of my clients were all around average, for one. And, for every two unattractive/awkward client, I'd have one who was a straight-up sociable hottie. My perception is that, barring sexual shame and religiosity, attractive men are simply most likely able to get their kinks/fetishes met in a relationship. Men who get their kinks met in relationships have no need for me. Average and unattractive men, on the other hand, can't as much, much less with hot women; hence…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:53 PM
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Be very specific in your compliments. "You're so beautiful" is common and boring. "You're so beautiful when you laugh" is better. "I love how your whole face lights up when you laugh" is better still. Compliment her when she's not wearing makeup. Compliment the things she puts effort into (makeup, fashion), with specific indications as to how this accentuates her beauty. Edit: also, obviously, compliment things that aren't her looks: skills, intelligence, work, humor, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:28 PM
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Mannnnn, I have so much to say about footguys! But my tldr is that the fetish starts YOUNG (<7), the stigma is immense and relationship-ending, and I kinda adore these dudes. Except for the ticklers. The ticklers can fuck right off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:18 PM
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To be fair, anyone with a small rib cage and big-ish boobs (C+) has to import their bras. The U.S. widely doesn't make bands smaller than 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:13 PM
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told I'm mature for my age, to have a successful relationship I'd need to date significantly older Do you mind if I ask who has been telling you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:08 PM
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lmao, you liked your comment so much you had to double post a minute later for daddy fuckGuilt, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 09:43 PM
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As a woman whose main job uniform for years was lingerie: my experience was that most men are fairly indifferent, barring a few exceptions. Seasoned strippers know that her money-making outfit is whatever she feel sexiest in. She makes money when she wears red? That's cause she feels sexiest when she wear red. It has nothing to do with men, who honestly are just attracted to hot women in various stages of undress and nudity. Rare exceptions include: wearing a regular's favorite color, fetishgear…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 09:36 PM
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Look, plenty of these men would act like shits even if the question were in good faith. Plenty of these men would be angry to even have to question what they offer women, because that's the core of their anger, anyway. But acting like OP is has turned this into a shitshow. A good, reasonable question has been reduced to antagonism and arguments in bad faith. Again. We should not resort to the bad behavior of angry men. This isn't a race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:27 PM
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I never said you were white. Narrowing down the whole of systemic racism to rape and theft of women is simply white feminist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:20 PM
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We should not be replicating the degeneracy of angry, poorly-behaved men. When men act as OP is acting, I ridicule them and then make it clear I am ending the conversation due to their own idiocy. We don't have to turn the other cheek, but acting as men do? Come on. I thought we were supposed to be better. Instead this shit turns gender relations into a race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:19 PM
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Yes, it's mostly men - white men - in power who are arresting and sentencing. That is a clear indication that these issues (incarceration, in this case) are more complicated than gender alone. We also cannot ignore the role of white womanhood in all of this. The legal history of mass incarceration is pretty clear in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:17 PM
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You're seriously trying to tell me you believe that systemic racism is so that men can rape women? What in the white feminist hell is this bullshit? I said earlier that none of this seems in good faith, and it's clear now that none of this IS in good faith. The anger phase is an important part of the grief process. Still, I hope you work your way through it, because the other side of it is healthier and more sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:15 PM
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I'm not only talking black men. I'm also talking Latino men. I'm talking Native men. You can't bring up prisons without talking about systemic oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 07:02 PM
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and clogging up prisons. Yeah, okay, just blame men of color for systemic racism/ racist policing and sentencing practices that have robbed whole communities of their fathers, brothers, and sons. I am so tired of men that I'm no longer dating them, but come on. You're so wrapped up in your anger phase that you're resorting to ignorance and idiocy - just like many of the men of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:51 PM
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I change according to the situation I think this is smart, so long as you are still secure in your sense of self. Adaptation is how species survive change, and change is the only constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:42 PM
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I'm not currently dating men, but from past experiences: Healthy masculine energy to interplay with my femininity (healthy in that it is not wrapped up in ego or pretense, but rather, assurity and comfort in self) A sense of responsibility and honor, which comes out in how he treats others, specifically how he treats those who are "lower" status A penis, lol Skillsets that are different from my own Patience (to teach me aforementioned skills, to roll with my hormonal cycle and the fact that I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:30 PM
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Yes. I know. That's what I'm appreciating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:10 PM
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Honestly? I think part of this is that you're also being antagonistic, and none of this seems in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:10 PM
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It's really fucking too bad that OP is being so combative. I think this is a great question for PPD, and I am enjoyed reading how men here value themselves when specifically framed for women. Because I do think most women learn their value vis a vis men's interests and how they serve others, and I have seen here that most men value women within that context, as well. Seeing the flip side is interesting and telling. Alas. Here we are instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:30 PM
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Odd to me that you're so antagonistic when you clearly list your value: -Resources, stability, a home -Love and emotional reciprocity -Specific skillsets (handiness, cooking) -Sex -Arm candy These things are all valuable to women, not just your wife. I happen to think this is a great response, then, to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:22 PM
1

---she complains about the sex. Oh, I mean, that could just be - ---she tells you that sex with you "felt like rape". Yikes. Edit: just to be clear, that's a yikes to you and how you must be having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:09 PM
2

Never said single moms look for good men. I said they look for the good in their men. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:36 AM
2

Considering how many men here in PPD say the only thing men value in women are pussy and youth, well. Glad we're in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:35 AM
1

I don't agree - unless you're saying this is personally a con for you w.r.t. all women, including those you reproduce with and who who will inevitably prioritize your children over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 05:10 AM
2

I suppose I mean... They are in survival mode, which inherently means rolling with the punches. Adapting to difficulties. Obviously a mom will prioritize kids over men. That's what a good mom does, and it will happen even when the kids belong to the man in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 04:34 AM
6

Lol, yeah, that's wild to me. I guess, then, my answer to OP is: the moment I start expecting mediocrity and stagnation from my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 03:21 AM
14

Lol, this just in: a woman invested in her health and professional growth means she's no longer attracted to her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 02:43 AM
6

I'm competitive, too. That doesn't mean I act like some little bitch baby when I lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 02:41 AM
10

Based off the single moms I know: Single moms are a great option for single fathers. Single moms are often very hard workers who know how to run a household on less. This is great if you are looking for someone who knows how to be frugal and fairly self-sufficient. Single moms are often a Jill of all Trades. Single moms play less games. They know what they want. Single moms are practical, adaptable. Single moms are often very appreciative of behaviors and such that other women would take for gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 02:40 AM
3

I mean, it's obviously not only about getting Australia. No one wins keeping one continent. Australia is really just good for the army build-up at the beginning, but if you're with players who are fighting you for it, ditch it and pour your resources into capturing continents that really matter, strategy-wise. Also, always keep Asia to the end. Asia is a beast that can only be conquered after building up your armies. By the time Asia comes into your strategy, you should have already solidified t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 10:57 PM
10

Men like playing games with their girlfriend but they really don't want her to carry him as we say. This is so real. There are certain games I refuse to play with most men because of this. Men love that I enjoy games like Risk and Axis & Allies. These same men do not love when I win. Being with men sometimes means letting them take Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:41 PM
13

I require men to have hobbies. Any hobbies. Hobbies society types as masculine? Cool. Hobbies society types as feminine? Also cool. Be interesting in your own stead. Live a life worth living. Occupy your body and mind and spirit. Independence and self-sufficiency are attractive. Otherwise, you're just a man looking to me to entertain you, and that's the least of my priorities as a woman with hobbies, who is independent and self-sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:08 PM
5

Tbh, I'd be mad impressed. A++, would pay to watch you suck your own dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 08:03 PM
1

Is your perception really that TRP hates fat men the way they hate fat women? That's totally contrary to the way TRP talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 01:47 AM
1

Yes, we should be critical. And people here are much more critical of women being obese than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:50 PM
-1

I think the preoccupation with obesity among women is an example of disparate beauty standards. I wouldn't use the word "unrealistic," but it's still a way society is very critical of women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 08:33 PM
1

It's not intuition nor magical ability. It's skill (attention to detail) mixed with experience (knowing wealthy people enough to know the tells). Most women can't tell, but there are plenty of women who can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 07:54 PM
3

35% of men are obese. That's not just "lots."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 07:48 PM
6

Oh, I don't. I'm just hugely amused at their hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 07:29 PM
10

Masculine bitches are strictly for pumping and dumping because the shit tests will never fucking stop So shit tests are a masculine behaviour? Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 05:58 PM
1

Can you define "pump and dump"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:15 AM
19

So no matter what, men aren't taking care of basic household tasks... Because of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 01:17 PM
4

I don't turn 31 till next year. I'll be happy to reply then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 08:25 AM
2

I don't know you, but your maths turn me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 10:46 PM
14

Fuckboys by definition aren't high value. They're basic, abundant, and cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 10:05 PM
3

I wouldn't end up in a situationship. I'd have continued dating/meeting people the whole time. I'd drop the person the moment they stopped meeting the needs I wanted them to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:10 PM
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I mean, okay. That's fine that it doesn't work for you. It doesn't have to. I wouldn't even expect it to - men's orgasms are widely guaranteed, so you have no impetus to prefer less sex at a longer duration. I gave my own preference. My preference remains. I don't know why you're still belaboring your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:20 PM
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You're adding that it's bad sex. I have a high sex drive, but being able to have 5+ orgasm sessions, once a week, is definitely preferable to me over sex 3x/week, where I orgasm once.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:01 PM
3

Absolutely. That's why I said it - to balance out your anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:53 PM
-1

aren't lesbians the people that suffer the most from abuse from their partners? Nope, bi women are, from both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:26 PM
5

Fwiw, I know a lot of lesbian couples in LTRs, and not one of them have separate bedrooms, much less with unique locks on the doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:24 PM
1

Lol, I'm otherwise a good, law-abiding citizen, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:48 PM
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I present it as though it's no different than any other job. It's ballsy, lol, but I'm also well-educated, so I have the luxury of really understanding how impressive these skills are when disambiguated from the taboo. I am confident, sincere, and friendly, and of course well-prepared for questions. Also, you're even right that a lot of these hiring managers do or have solicited sex workers in some form. I think that can sometimes help, too, weirdly enough. I actually know someone who was hired …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:03 AM
2

... I literally listed the skills already. The entertainment company is me. I'm done here. I'm not gonna talk in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:04 AM
5

Lmao, you really have no idea what you're talking about here. But uh, sick burn, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 05:39 AM
5

Still talking about the resume, huh? Had to move the goal posts to keep up the argument. I'm talking skills, of which you said there are none that are transferrable. That is clearly not the case. But since you're curious, I said that I was an Entertainer. There's literally no spinning here: I'm being honest. And that doesn't work for all employers, no, but it works for those who understand skills for skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 04:40 AM
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Lol, no, not stripping alone. I did other sex work. From stripping, I was more at ~100-150k, depending on how I allotted my time that year and where the money was. I should note that, even 3 years later, the market is very saturated and there's less money being thrown around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 04:27 AM
2

Err, except I was a sex worker. For years. Recent years, even. That's why I'm correcting the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:22 AM
3

Ahhh, the good, old fashioned One True Alpha Scotsman argument, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 01:49 AM
3

I didn't realize you were defining "transferable skills" as "literally written on a resume." But to be specific, my resume reflects the fact that I founded and managed a 1-person business with over a quarter million dollar + yearly profit margin, wherein I honed skills such as sales, marketing and communications, website development, contracts and licensing, QuickBooks, and active client engagement across 10+ states and 4+ countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 01:27 AM
3

Former stripper here. Ugly women aren't making 100+ an hour. False. with no real transitional skills. Also false.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 11:38 PM
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I feel the same when white Western men wax poetic about Asian women being submissive. Yeah, they let you think that - until you're married and they're running your house and bank with an iron fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 10:09 PM
1

I feel like you're talking about ACEs at this point? But your point stands. I didn't mean to imply any of this was a matter of just getting over it. I am only saying that people with the emotional intelligence and who put in the work will be more aware of their patterns and therefore less likely to replicate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:27 PM
3

I think this often. Whorehouses literally built towns around them in the west. Talk about phenomenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 06:43 PM
2

Ok, so, I typed up this whole ass response, and then I realized that you totally disregarded my actual advice as to how to find the type of women you want to settle down with. So, that's cool. In any case, I wasn't even talking straight up abuse. I was talking about modeled relationships. Attachment Theory doesn't say shit about people not being able to grow. 99% of women don't want to be treated like shit. If that's what you're finding 99% of the time, there is something about you that is attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 06:39 PM
4

TBP is a satirical sub created in reaction to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 06:14 PM
3

I've spent my life with what men see as the 1% of HVF's, but they are all the same, they want to be treated like shit for some reason. We pick up lessons from our upbringing and carry them forward. I know a lot of women - and men! - who feel like the adrenaline rush of an argument is what love feels like. Who associate cortisol responses with care. Who can't recognize being treated well as genuine or stable. Who are looking for the type of treatment and love they received growing up and in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 06:13 PM
3

Oh, I'm a former escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:49 PM
3

39 gilf You must be, like, 12, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:21 PM
3

30F. Last weekend, an older man in line at the grocery store chatted me up. I flirted back, because I flirt with everyone. He was there with his kid and had a wedding ring, so I wouldn't call this a genuine approach. A month ago, at a birthday party, a friend's friend asked me out. He was very average-looking, but he had dark hair and grew up in the backwoods of Idaho, and I'm a sucker for that shit. Based off our earlier conversation, I'd have said given him the courtesy of 1 date (making an ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:08 PM
3

The cold ruthlessness of FDS reminds me a lot of every attractive Eastern European/post-Soviet bloc woman I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:36 PM
1

Are these women you know IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:17 AM
2

Mexicans are fatter - but that doesn't mean the people with the means to immigrate to the U.S. are. Mexican immigrants in the US eat less healthy than they do in Mexico.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:49 AM
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She's planning on it, but is it her ideal? Would she prefer to be a single mom over having a good man be a father to her child?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:45 AM
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Man. Y'all don't want to know how many wealthy, educated clients of mine showed up with brown stains in their underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:24 AM
2

I've been thinking a lot about your comment, and yeah, I definitely painted too broad a brush. I think the reality is more nuanced: low value people getting together when young and having children. But that doesn't mean there isn't a gradiation within that LV population, or that people who are LV can't work to increase their value. This actually relates to something else you said in this thread, about women wanting men to show up grown, versus investing in men as they grow. Totally anecdotally -…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:14 AM
1

I agree with everything you said. I'll only add that women who, at 30, haven't improved and grown, aren't HVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 10:08 PM
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No. What makes Mexican immigrants obese and unhealthy is the US. 1st Gen Mexican immigrants have better or the same health outcomes as non-Hispanic whites. The US is importing healthy people and making them fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:39 PM
2

None of this responds to what I said. Read my comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:35 PM
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LOL that's funny, considering 1st gen Mexican immigrants actually have the same or better health than non-Hispanic whites, including lower obesity rates. Want to know what makes Mexican immigrants to the US fat? Duration of stay in the U.S. and acculturation into U.S. society and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:03 PM
2

wouldn't bring up imaginary bs like "self-improvement" How I know you're not RP and are, in fact, on that incel shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:22 PM
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That sub is a prime example why women shouldn't date down. All those single moms? Dated down. And now men on the internet hate them for it. Men need women to have high standards. To gatekeep. Without women's high standards, there are too many men who would rather watch the world burn than be worth a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:12 PM
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lmao, get out of here with that incel shit. Literally every man in my family is under 6 ft, and none of them have had any problem with dating. Some of them even date too much/are total whores. But yeah, keep on thinking that women "dating down" is a literal testament to height of men. That'll really help you make yourself a man of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:41 PM
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Yeah, no thanks. I watched the women in my family marry down. I watched my childhood friends marry down. I saw how families are ruined because of weak, selfish men who will drain all that a woman has to offer - her youth, her money, her health, her patience and love - and still demand more. Men need to step up or shut up. Women need to maintain frame. If they want to reproduce, they do not have the luxury of marrying down. It's better to be alone and childfree. *Note, I consider marrying down as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:30 PM
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Exactly this. Men here already make it clear that they're not going to be improving themselves, so it's not women who need to settle. It's men who need women to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:18 PM
1

I agree. I think you're replying to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:10 PM
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Men are weak. They are reactionary and lack the type of honor and moral compass we need in a pro-social species. It's up to women to uphold that moral compass. Find yourself a man who makes you dinner - and then serve him first. (Also a direct lesson) Always serve men first. To be with men is to placate. Being pretty is a privilege. Pretty also has to be upheld. You can't get lazy. Presenting as feminine is a balance. People will respect you less but treat you better. Children will tie women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:28 AM
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Right, so, the issue is he isn't into women outside a narrow standard (very social, can't stand awkward guys), considering what he, himself, has to offer (on the spectrum).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:43 AM
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It turns out that, by and large, men aren't metooed if they're not fucking creeps. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:34 AM
3

I'm genuinely curious about the answer. I expect the Blackpills will say, "be born attractive," and the Redpills will say to lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:02 AM
1

So you're telling me that 60% of young women are choosing to be single rather than date stable, employed guys who treat them nice? This is the lie men here tell themselves to absolve men of having to improve themselves. 18% of women 18-35 also haven't had sex in the past year, and these men also say that's a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:37 PM
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Funny that we have so many men responding to this, despite it being Q4W. I obviously can't speak to all women, but every below average-looking woman I know was raised with the understanding that they needed to compensate for their looks. Sometimes it was explicit (grandmothers, mothers, aunts telling the girl that she needs to learn X skills if she wants to attract a man), sometimes implied. But I genuinely don't know any below-average woman who isn't aware that she doesn't have the benefit or v…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 05:41 PM
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Yeah, dude, so. I neither said nor implied any of that. I am not thinking what you say I am. Your "subtext" is you making shit up. You're so angry at shit that you're fighting with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 06:29 AM
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The person I was responding to didn't even say what you said. There's subtext and then there's making up an argument just to piss yourself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 05:56 AM
2

Fascinating. You read all that in the 4 words I used?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 05:40 AM
2

Lol, my friend's wife is a solid 7.5/10 (8 if you like them dark-haired and built like a coke bottle), and she definitely isn't awkward or dorky. It sounds like your friend's problem is less about him being on the spectrum and more that he has very specific standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 03:08 AM
1

Thank you for the share. It's been a while since I've read that paper, so I definitely need a refresher. Part of my issue with the research is that, at least in the US, data used by the FBI is collected by an org that doesn't believe sex work can be consensual. They have been critiqued for their sketchy methods, too, on more than one occasion. All the data is iffy, even the police data, which is why the matter is so complicated. I'm interested in seeing if any new research comes out as different…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:47 AM
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Lol, reminds me of a friend. Except he did find a woman - one who actually appreciates his spectrum tendencies. She'll listen to the man talk for hours about Southwestern tree varietals and whatever else he has stored in his brain. And she likes how she doesn't have to worry about subterfuge and can speak plainly with him, no vague social cues necessary. It works for them. They met through mutual friends, though, and she had multiple spectrumy friends before they met.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:32 AM
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No, I wasn't. I had a teacher try with the grooming thing, but nothing came of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:23 AM
1

I'm not in favor of legalization. I want sex work decriminalized. This would not decriminalize human trafficking, and I would hope that decriminalizing sex work would mean our government could divert resources to actually combat trafficking. When sex work is legalized, is there an uptick of human trafficking, or is there an uptick of the trafficking we are able to actually find and see?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:14 AM
1

I dig all men, lol. I like masculinity in it's variety of displays. I even appreciate "traditional" U.S. American masculinity. I mean love. Friendship is kinda funny for me, in that to me, friend love is nearly indistinguishable from romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:11 AM
1

All my clients consent to be screened. The ones who don't? Turn to women with less means to do so. (This is why street-based work is so dangerous and why SESTA/FOSTA was so damaging to sex workers.) It's risky for them, yes, but the whole ass thing is risky for me, lol. Screening levels out the risk, and [insert whole sexy spiel about why it's important for me to feel comfortable, so I can totally succumb to the experience]. Most of my clients also weren't totally new to the escort game, so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:00 AM
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God, not friends. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:42 AM
1

Sorry, just saw I missed this. No, I never felt like the client was my boss or in control in any way. They weren't. They were clients who knew the terms of my service. If they wanted more, we could negotiate. And I could terminate the contract at any point, no refunds. What was actually in control was money. Capitalism. How many people go to work when they're tired? Who work jobs they sometimes hate? Sex work really is just work. This is actually why I am glad I had such a variety of services. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:35 AM
1

I don't see men as pathetic, but tbh, I do find myself disliking men these days. I don't like this about myself, because I also love men. I just think I spent too long at the whims of them, serving their egos, etc., that now I need a healthy break. Also, lol, being financially independent at 30 means that I have no need suffer bullshit. Any person I love now needs to add to my life and the love I'm building within it, needs to see and understand my vision. Anyone who isn't looking to build with …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:22 AM
1

I date women nowadays. Most of them are current in the industry, so they understand. Sex does still have it's novelty. In fact, I think I appreciate it more and find it more meaningful than I did prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:00 AM
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No, I didn't. I joined the scene before it was a thing. That said, my friends who do say that it varies. It's a hustle, for one. You gotta produce a lot of content, and the types of people who subscribe are very needy. My understanding was that the way to make it work was to get regulars on onlyfans through the hustle: camming, IG, Reddit, etc. And then to use all the methods to scrape together enough to cover the bills, but onlyfans was never enough alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:34 PM
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He always had weak will and weak morals if "attractive people have it easier" "turned him" into an asshole. Shows a lot how looks mean little in terms of what makes a man actually high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 09:30 PM
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No. That said, I don't make enough to uphold a standard of living I would want for a family, so we would have to navigate that together. To me, that means sharing a home with another working parent, and you would be caring for someone else's child in addition to ours. I have two friends and one cousin who want a man to be the SAH parent, but their men aren't chill with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:11 PM
0

Just because you think it's thoughtless, doesn't mean it actually is. Also, you already responded this to me elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 05:52 PM
2

No, the premise is waking up a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:59 PM
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If you don't see the difference between the answer I and a yes/no, that's on you and your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:59 PM
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I mean, or people would say, work hard and save up for cosmetic surgery, because they can't stand the thought of being a 4. Which I feel isn't boring at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:37 PM
1

I can afford it and the cost-benefit is fine for me. Does that mean I can get plastic surgery in this weird hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:07 PM
1

Building cars. Whiskey. Beer/brewing. Basketball. Backpacking. Fishing. Hunting. BBQ. My nerd shit is generally more feminine in persuasion (sci-fi, speculative fiction) or without gendered stereotypes (boardgames), but I find that a lot of men appreciate when they learn I'm into these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:04 PM
2

Why isn't cosmetic surgery an option? Edit: in any case, a lot of small things would change, but that's kind of it. People wouldn't be so nice to me, would hold doors open less, etc. I'd go to bars and not have men try to pick me up. I'd get less free shit. But my job wouldn't change. My friends wouldn't change. My lovers would likely change, but I'm bi, and the queer world is pretty lax about conventional standards of beauty, so I'd be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 03:48 PM
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Yeah, then it's not okay that these women accused you of lying and got mad at you for this. We definitely need to do better as a society in teaching women how to respect men's bodies and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:14 AM
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I think it's as fair for women to dismiss you for their preferences as it is for you to dismiss them for yours. I also think you probably need more wordsmithing to properly explain your "why." Cause women will often hear your preference and assume it's because you have backwards attitudes about women. But if you straight up said, "I am inexperienced and would prefer to experiment and explore my sexuality with someone who is similarly inexperienced," or, "I'm insecure," well, that's understandabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:05 AM
2

Strippers are, by and large, independent contractors, so it's more a matter of local laws than club arrangement. Basically, it's less that tying up strippers was "on the menu" and more that strippers are able to allow or deny requests, so long as it's legal. The overwhelming majority of the dancers were super not into it and would never allow it, lol. I got some odd ducks in VIP by virtue of how kink-friendly I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:49 AM
1

I think it can be true. The thing is, there are so many values that make people compatible. Number of sex partners might be one of them - and some of those values will even lend themselves to lower sex partners. So, if someone values religion, they likely have a lower n count, and both n count and religion are values that make the couple compatible. But I also know couples whose n counts are discordant, and they are very compatible based on values outside of n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:33 PM
1

For sure! This was a fun way to spend a Sunday afternoon, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:13 PM
1

I didn't feel insulted. It's just how I interpret questions like that: on scale of comparison. Sex work... Just is, to be honest. It's sometimes empowering, sometimes freeing, sometimes a pain in the ass, sometimes awful, sometimes scary, sometimes fun, sometimes exciting, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:07 PM
1

Yes. Absolutely. There were good men out there. I even keep in touch with a select few, because they are stellar humans. But by and large, this is totally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:45 PM
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do you practice safe sex? And how common practice is it? Yes, always. I don't know how common it is. The women I know do, but I know it's less common among women who have less negotiating power. Because a good number of men will try to go without. what does it feel like to have men pay you for sex and your company? Better than it did when I was getting paid $8.25/hour for rolling burritos on my college campus. have you ever had a client that didn’t want sex when it was an option? Yes. It wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:43 PM
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Yes. It actually spoiled me for straight work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:39 PM
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When did you make the decision to become a sex worker? Was it incidental or intentional? I started as a prodomme when I was 19. I knew a woman with a dungeon and learned from her. Knowing her was incidental, but deciding to do the work was intentional. Are you psychologically/sexually gratified by pro domme work? How do you get in character? Yes, very. Tbh, I'm already kind of always in character. For better or for worse. What inspired or drove you to leave SW and become a nurse? SW was always m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:38 PM
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My first year stripping, I met a local man who was big in the international shibari scene. He would tie me up in VIP and then feed me, play with my hair, watch Netflix with me all wrapped up on his lap. After being a regular for a few months, he offered to pay me for suspension work outside of the club. And then it just went from there. The first time being suspended was... Painful, lol. But also magical. All you can do is breathe and let go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:13 PM
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Oh, don't worry, I didn't feel critiqued at all. It's just something I hear a lot, so I thought I'd put it out there. :) And yes, that is the sum total of the service I provided in escorting and stripping. I was a young, hot vessel for the needs and egos of men. Even the men who sought after me because of my education and intelligence were still looking for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:58 PM
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Less fun, more meditative. I really, really enjoyed it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:44 PM
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Some did, but I broadly didn't ask the married men. Basically, I learned early on that my role wasn't to turn our sessions into therapy. Sad men don't feel sexy, and men who don't feel sexy don't become repeat clients. Let the wife handle his emotional labor. I was just there for the fantasy. Edit: but I did answer poppy_blu's similar question. Cause while I didn't ask, I do have my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:35 PM
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My price point was high enough that it wasn't ever just sex alone. They'd have been better off going cheaper. Most of my escorting clients wanted a combination of the girlfriend experience, sugar daddy experience (being an older man who has the money and status to invest in and mentor a young woman), and "partying with a hot young woman" experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:32 PM
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Men would tie me up and suspend me from their ceilings. I was good at it (petite, flexible, experienced, even muscular development, high pain tolerance), so the men who were paid to do workshops and art installations would fly me around the world with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:15 PM
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I can't say exact percentages. Enough were married that it was safe to assume that they were and to act accordingly, so I'd say most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:12 PM
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Sort of? It varied depending on the service. For escorting, white men ages 45-65 were my standard. I got a lot of upper level management and venture capitalists, but that's because of my price-point. For prodomming and fetish work, white men ages 23-30 and then once again 45-65 year old white men. Stripping is where I had the most variety, but I was deliberate about that. Edit: actually, yeah, 45-65 white men were my consistent typical across services.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:56 PM
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A couple of folks have asked that I do an AMA, so I guess this is the time? For background: I'm a former sex worker. I typically talk about having been an escort and stripper, but I was also a prodomme, ropebunny, and dabbled in foot fetish work. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:44 PM
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Fuck yeah! Have a great time!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:33 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the PNW for other reasons. Olympic National Park + Portland's food scene were glorious, and I still like to visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:52 AM
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Yes. I think TRP tactics lend themselves well to hypergamy, for the more calculating and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:40 AM
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Pray the man who finally takes you and owns you, that you are good enough, that when you throw yourself against him and scream take me, he closes his arms I don't think PPD is the place for your erotic fanfiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:18 AM
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:( Our friends are as invisible are we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 01:42 AM
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Okay? And? I'm not saying that WoC don't cry. I'm saying that the only women bitching about the "benevolent sexism" of keeping one's children are those who are privileged enough to get the benefit of the doubt from people in positions of power and authority. That not all women get this privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:36 AM
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It's complicated, but the short of it is that we've specifically distanced ourselves from white/UMC feminists. But that doesn't necessarily means we're anti-feminist. A lot of our work does center around our women, for example. And mark my word, it's not just white feminism we're disgusted with. It's white women in general. Like that thread right now where men are saying women cry as a means to manipulation? WoC are targeted with this shit, too, because ww know that men will come to their rescue…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:22 AM
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lmao, all the cities I listed are liberal. Only in the PNW have I encountered this communication style.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:13 AM
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But... If you trust her... Why does it matter? And why, then, are you discounting men cheating? If a man goes on one on one coffee dates with women outside his relationship, isn't then your expectation/assumption that he is only doing so because he has a chance with this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:46 PM
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So wait. Your issue isn't whether your GF will cheat, it's on whether she will get hit on? And that is why she can't be friends with a whole half of the population? You literally can't control who hits on women. It could happen in the workplace, the store, walking down the street, on a boat, with a goat, on the internet, while out with other women.... The only way to control this is that if she never, ever leaves the home or communicates with anyone but you and maybe family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:02 PM
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Men are more likely to cheat. If any one gender should have limitations on friendships set, it should be men. (Except, as a bi woman, I don't agree with the premise. At all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 10:41 PM
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I'd take the freeze all day everyday to have folks talk straight and direct. That's why I left that crazy-making city. Ineffectual, inefficient communication is my Hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 10:36 PM
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Covert communication is more regional than only merely gendered. That's why the PNW is known for being passive aggressive. None of the "born and raised" folks out there know how to talk like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 10:31 PM
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😬😬😬
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 09:48 PM
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I encourage you to look beyond what white, middle class feminists bitch about. There are a lot of women who talk about privilege among women. Because women benefiting by getting their kids is definitely some white feminist shit. You'd never hear Native/Indigenous women say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 09:46 PM
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No, vulnerable means emotionally available. If men are crying for crumbs, they're being emotionally manipulative, and this is a sign that they are maladjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 09:39 PM
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To add and also push back at this: most of the married feminists I know are having children. And at least in my circles, everyone has been supportive of our friends who became homemakers. The concern is not that homemaking is miserable and that women need to want to climb the corporate ladder. The concern is that being a homemaker is a very vulnerable position. We all knows what happens in the case of a divorce. It happened to many of our mothers and aunts. And, with how long women are living, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 06:18 PM
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I do, but one of my kinks is dominating men. And I'm a sexual sadist, so. 💁🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:27 PM
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All pleasant means is agreeable. A growth mindset. Healthy communication (which is more than being pro-social: it's a skill). Passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 03:07 AM
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No. Pleasant is vague and lukewarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:52 AM
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Emotional intelligence. Warmth, kindness, compassion. A contagious laugh. Attention to detail, or maybe good at big-picture planning. Healthy communication. Creativity. Loyalty. Open-mindedness. Intuition. Fitness. Humor. All sorts of skills: dancing, hiking, cooking, crafting, arts, trades. Passion. I could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 01:55 AM
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Lol these men forget that more men are overweight in this country than women. Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:42 PM
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It depends a lot on what the materials used. I've felt a lot of fake boobs, and the good, expensive kind feel natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:52 PM
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Yeppppp. Good, expensive breast augmentation with proper post-op care can be effectively indistinguishable from real tits. Some of my favorite stripper friends have such great work done (and again - had proper post-op care! Cause no matter how great the doctor, you're gonna fuck things up if you don't take the post-op care seriously) that customers all thought their boobs were real. "I love how natural Cassandra is!" Lol, ok, Dave. Don't we all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:50 PM
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On the note of LTRs: I'm a woman who wears 1.5 + inch heels on the daily. I doubt I'd even notice, then, if my partner wore lifts - we'd end up the same height difference when barefoot, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:46 PM
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It'd be pretty difficult, because I'm petite. I've only once come across a man shorter than me, and he had dwarfism. But small men in general? Well. I'm a switch, so I'm alright feeling like I can kick a man's ass. But if he wanted me to be submissive/bottom, I'd need him to at least have some weight and strength to his body, cause I don't go down easy. For pure sexual attraction, you gotta carry yourself well. I know 5'3" men with more presence than men of average height. My 5'5" friend pulls w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:11 PM
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Actually, the National Survey of Family Growth found that it's women with 10+ partners who have the highest divorce rates, at 33% Women with 2 partners have the second highest, at 30% Women with 0-1 were the least likely, but 3-7 partners was still less likely than 2. But this is less to do with damage to the self and more to do with associated characteristics for women who marry with only 0-1 sex partners. And men with high numbers may not have a risk for divorce, but they do have an increased …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:56 PM
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Older (65+) unmarried women are happier than married women of their age bracket. So, there's also that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:24 AM
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Yes, I've made that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:59 AM
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Is the one I'm in your legal system?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:52 AM
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Okay. ... Which legal system, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:34 AM
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Good point. Everyone knows geese are evil. Ducks are a good compromise. Me and my ducks will meet you at dawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:32 AM
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the legal system today Which legal system? You still haven't said what country you're from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:26 AM
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Ok but why settle for ducks when you can have geese A geese army
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:26 AM
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LOL as though maintaining regular and friendly contact with someone you don't like just for the off chance you can get their money is 0 investment. No sw does this with all clients. Not all sw do this at all. I know a lot of strippers who don't play the "regulars" game, because it's a lot of fucking work to upkeep these relationships. Sw is like any sales job - and you don't have sales folks being actual friends with their clients. They'll do an email blast every quarter, but maintaining consist…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:49 PM
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For women, I prefer em big. I like tits and ass and even a handful of belly. I prefer proportional, of course, and I prefer more shape than just "round," but no one looking at my "type" would ever say I liked thin women. For men, I like anything from functionally fit (think rock climbers) to bear. Regardless of gender, though, I find people with endurance attractive. I like to go backpacking, but I'm petite and take my time (I get distracted by nature), so I prefer people who can go 8-12 miles i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:42 PM
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For what it's worth, I've always preferred big women. I knew this from the moment I realized my attraction to women, which was a solid decade and a half before I realized I was attracted to men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:33 PM
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I think you're in the wrong thread, or commenting to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:12 PM
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Literally every woman's laptop I've borrowed has been porn free. Literally every man's has had it in autocomplete out in the open, even for work computers, even if his wife also works there and commutes with him. Are you saying men don't browse porn on Incognito mode??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:10 AM
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Why are you so mad? The quote from the study I linked is about attitudes re: premarital sex. I never made any claims about attitudes. The link you cite says that Millennial women are averaging at 10.8 partners, compared to 13.4 for men. So, yeah, definitely higher than the 8.3 from the 2012 GSS data! But still not as wildly high as people in this sub seem to think. For GenZ, it's honestly too soon to tell their numbers. As the article says, they may end up with more than any prior generation, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:09 AM
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How about YOU find a source to support YOUR claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:53 AM
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That's a good point. I need to reread the research on this, cause I don't remember the details of the custody arrangements other than that it was shared. I do think it's worth noting that the majority of custody agreements happen outside of court, and there has been a lot of work done in courts to reduce assumptions of women taking full custody. Men should go to court instead of assuming they will be dismissed. Their children are worth fighting for, and the continued culture of hopelessness over…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 06:02 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25940736
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:25 AM
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the average partner count is shooting up. Also need a source on this. The very same dataset that shows the 1 year <28 sexlessness is where they discussed the relative stability in number of sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:03 AM
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Again, I'm sorry your relationships with women are so shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:31 AM
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All of this has no bearing on what you initially said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:21 AM
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I'm sorry you have such shallow relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:12 AM
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Your comment about resentment means jack shit in relation to our conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:05 AM
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your best effort Ahh, yes, the best of women is the sexual satisfaction they give men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:53 PM
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You know, this means that you are likely a stellar human. Sw letting their guards down to become friends with clients only happens when clients are great. No amount of money creates friendship. Authentic, respectful interactions do. People here are going to rag on you for being a client, for being a beta, but tbh, most of the men here are just angry and don't see how many women actively desire beta qualities. Not because we are looking for weak men, but because we want men who are caring, respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:51 PM
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Yes, but despite this, women's sex partner numbers are not increasing. So women are still having sex, but that doesn't mean they're fucking more people compared to prior generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:44 PM
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Even with Tinder culture, GenZ and Millennials are having less sex than prior generations. I'm not talking about your personal feelings. I'm talking about what the research tells us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:33 PM
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I agree with you entirely re: Tinder creating a weird sexual market of mindless swiping. I'm old (30), but I found my time on the app so unpleasant. I felt like it was desentizing me to humans as human beings (versus disembodied heads), and I started objectifying more than I ever had in the past. It was awful. I miss the old OkCupid, personally, lol. Also, as a former GFE ho: I am so pleased to read you've had great experiences with camgirls. Sex workers are some of my favorite people, and I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:17 PM
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Okay. Cool. I imagine you'd be relieved to know that the average number of sex partners for women actually hasn't increased over the decades. That may in fact indicate that your dad should have had some self-respect before dating a woman who was just as likely to have been passed around as today's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 11:11 PM
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Men and women who are married have more sex than men and women who aren't married. Period. Point blank. The rest of what you said is just you talking out of your paranoia and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:56 PM
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I meant it sincerely. Sexlessness among young men is a recipe for societal discord. Even non incel men in this sub talk about the unfairness of 28% of men <30 not having had sex in a year. Marriage is a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:30 PM
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Decreased marriage is linked to the increase of sexless men. Your choice, incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:41 PM
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Most custody arrangements never make it to court. That's the real issues here. Because when it gets to court and the couple is married, men DO get equal custody. But men assume they can't, so most don't even fight for it. Most custody cases do not involved any allegations of abuse. I think the number is only 8% of cases involve said allegations, and the majority are dismissed. And you'll be glad to know, when women allege abuse in divorce and child custody proceedings, they are more likely to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:29 PM
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Ok definitely satire then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:05 PM
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Oh. You're right. Whoops. Carry on, then. (Sometimes I can't tell what's satire in PPD, cause some of the men here say a lot of suspect shit.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:01 PM
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Orrrrrr that he's insecure and afraid of his own shadow, which is why he's open carrying (versus concealed, like the rest of us normal gun owners). Or they'll be thinking about how gun ownership is linked to domestic homicides, which is why he is patting his gun at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:54 PM
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Yes. I know more dads who did abandoned their kids after divorce than I do dads who didn't. They'll cry about their exes being bitches and not letting them see their kids, but then it'll turn around and it turns out they're not paying child support and haven't once shown up to pick up the kid on their weekends. That the mom isn't limiting contact so much as saying, "When you make promises and don't show up, you're hurting your child. If you can't show up, stop making promises" or "We need to agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:38 PM
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general preference towards giving children to the mother Fun fact: men who actually tell the courts they want custody are actually more likely to get it! Obviously there are outliers, but broad and wide, men who lobby for custody get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:32 PM
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If you're patting your open-carry gun at women, I highly doubt the message they're getting is that you can keep them safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:27 PM
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If it matters to you: Women's number of sex partners isn't actually going up much with time. That casual sex women are having? Vastly within the confines of consistent casual relationships - like FWB, or other arrangements where women are seeing the same men but without a relationship label.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:20 PM
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I'm saying this isn't as common as you think it is, and that your formative relationship model is why you think this is the case. Your dad bullied your mom so much, she cried about how he treated her. After she loved him and cared for him for decades, during his lowest times. Fucking wasted her youth on a man who would abuse her about aging. If this is expected RP behavior, no wonder RedPillWomen doesn't advocate marrying RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:18 PM
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God, that linked comment is horrendous. Your dad behaving that way has obviously shaped how you think "men" act, but I can tell you right now: wife goggles or not, aging or not, a man worth his shit - a high value man - would not act that way to a woman who was so good to him. That wasn't a wife goggles issue. That was your dad being a piece of shit issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:08 PM
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Once again you show lack of comprehension. How woman of you. And yet you ignore my question AND don't understand how frankly idiotic it is for men on here to think a woman's dopamine receptors and vagina can differentiate between dick. fat women on ppd Yeah, okay, bud. Stay mad. Typical man bullshit, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:58 PM
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No one cares what your preferences are. Invest in whoever you want. I'm talking about men here claiming casual sex permanently damages women's brains and bodies, but not claiming the same for men or for women in committed relationships. As though a woman's dopamine receptors and vaginas can differentiate between dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:39 PM
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What is the neurological and physical difference? Do you hold men to this same standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:44 PM
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I mean, 20% of women do like 60% of casual sex. And some 78% of sex women have is with a romantic partner, not casual sex. And women's sexual partners aren't going up, even though women are having more casual sex, which indicates women are having more FWB and casual sex partners than, like, fucking an outrageous number of men. As to the why there is an uptick in casual sex, I think there are a lot of reasons. I think the Sexual Revolution is part of it. And when I was in college (which, admitted…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:43 PM
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........ Okay, so, again, find the actual research publication and read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:49 PM
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There is definitely cognitive dissonance from men on the topic. Men will say Stacy fucking 12 men 1 time is brain/body damaging, but not Stacy fucking 1 man 12 times. Men will say Stacy fucking 12 men causes brain damage, but men should spin plates and that men fucking 12 women doesn't cause brain damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:48 PM
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There are no such studies proving physical brain damage based on n-count. And there wouldn't be, because most women don't orgasm during sex with men, period, much less casual sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:46 PM
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You could easily just find the cited research and read it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:33 PM
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No, the research did not run attributable risk calculations. The research assessed what the sexless male demographic looked like and found that these young men were by and large unmarried, unemployed, and/or living with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:18 PM
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Yes? Among other kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:46 AM
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I actually know like 3 gay couples where one person is trans, and a few more gay transmen who have okay luck on Grindr. Also, T does funny things to sexual attraction, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:36 AM
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How many trans people do you know? Like, IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:29 AM
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Jeez, I don't often agree with you, but yeah, basically. This is why a good number of transfolks let up on the gender stereotypes once they pass, have been on HRT long enough, and/or grow more comfortable with their transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:28 AM
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Wanting your own biological children isn't transphobic and no one who isn't a troll will tell you otherwise. Sorry your bf dehumanizes other human beings like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:30 AM
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I'm on my phone, but the study is Kim, Tan, and Muennig, "Sociodemographic Correlates of Sexlessness Among American Adults and Associations with Self-Reported Happiness Levels," Archives of Sexual Behavior, 46(7), 2017 Edit: I also misspoke about the dates. The dataset was from 2008 GSS, but the dates analyzed only went to 2002. So obviously this is not a perfect reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:42 AM
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I agree. I honestly wish I had more time to crunch numbers in the GSS dataset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:16 AM
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... did you delete your original comment? I'm not arguing anything about choice. That's literally your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:08 AM
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Fantastic! I'll look into his work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:06 AM
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Do you have any artists you like better?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:57 AM
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You're original assertion was that sexless women are all sexless by choice. You moved the goalposts to argue about sex coming easier for women. Those are two different arguments. Obviously sex comes easier to women, but women not fucking for 5 years being a choice? When that sexlessness is associated with very real social measures? I'm gonna need proof on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:35 AM
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If it's a fact of life, surely there is research supporting your assertions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:24 AM
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Lmao, so you're just going to ignore the fact that the women who are less likely to have sex than men in the 5 year span are sick and very poor? And men's sexlessness in the 1 year span is also associated with correlates of poverty: unemployment and living with parents? Okay, man. Keep on keeping on with your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:07 AM
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Yeah, I'm also interested! Cause on one hand, unemployment is a factor here. And we also know that unemployment results in greater rates of depression. And we know living at home could be related to above (poverty), but it could also be due to factors such as being unable to live independently due to personal defects: low independence, etc. It's interesting to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:55 AM
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(Citation needed.) We're talking research here, babe, not your assumptions. The research says that who are sexless for 5 years are typically very low income or have health complications. One of those things is oddly similar to what keeps men from having sex in the 1 year span, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:49 AM
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I'm not here to say what's hard or not. I'm just saying that men who live with their parents were more likely to have been sexless over the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:47 AM
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Because biology is unfair. Such is life. Anyway, you should check out my other comments to reluctantly_red: women's sexlessless varies, sometimes it's higher than men's. And the last study I found actually had women's 5 year sexlessness (compared to 1 year) higher than men's by a non-insignificant amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:43 AM
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Okay? And??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:35 AM
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Potentially. Older research (looking at the GSS data from 2008) indicated: 15.2% of males reported no sex in the past year 26.7% of females reported the same But when that was expanded to 5 years: 8.7% of males reported no sex 17.5% of females reported the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:33 AM
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Mannnnn, RIP Tumblr. I'm still mad about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:20 AM
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The study only looks at sex/sexlessness within the last 1 year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:19 AM
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Ahh, I see where the miscommunication is happening. Being political =/= political affiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:51 AM
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Being trans doesnt exist separately from trans rights, though. The original laws were around moralizing around trans people. There are trans people across the political spectrum and trans people with all kinds of political opinions. Yes, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:46 AM
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Being trans was always political. See: Stonewall Riots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:35 AM
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You do know that more men are fat than women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:23 AM
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On top of erotica, I'm personally also a fan of sex comics. InCase, I'm looking at you. I'd watch more porn if was more my taste, but I'm a picky bitch who wants to actually watch women orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:13 AM
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F, bi, 30. Yes, both transwomen and transmen. In fact, one of my lovers is currently also dating a transman. And my current celeb crush is trans, though they're more on the nb side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:11 AM
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het along Nice. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:08 AM
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Sooo, I found the study! And it did have some insight! Funnily enough, the rise in never-married male sexlessness is largely due to the decline of marriage, unemployment disparities, and living with parents, not factoring in folks who are religious, waiting for the right person, and haven't met someone who is of their standards. Basically, it's harder for men to have sex if they're not married, unemployed, and/or live with their parents. Which, uh, makes sense. To be nitpicky, too, number is spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:07 AM
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Did that study include data on how many of these men were trying/even wanting to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 01:22 AM
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Awesome! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:26 PM
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Interesting! Someone else suggested I do a post re my experiences with sex work, but I haven't been able to figure out how to do one that fits in the posting requirements. An AMA in the community megathread is much more accessible! Do you have a link to the megathread where the other sw posted re her experiences? I'd be super interested to read that!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure this should be a CMV or Debate, cause none of this is neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:46 PM
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Every partner I've had has told me that I have a very masculine personality when I'm not in my sex worker persona. The men specifically tend to appreciate it - until they don't. Until they want me to be more submissive, less competitive, more nurturing. What draws a lot of men to me is the lure of taming me. But, again, I'm competitive. I'm selfish. I'd rather not date men at all than date a man who doesn't understand me as his equal. Tldr it's all fun and games until it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:00 PM
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Your reading comprehension is outrageously poor. You didn't answer my question, either. I'm done wasting my time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:40 PM
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The vast majority of people on public transport stare into their phones. I'm personally more in the book/audiobook world, myself. But even so, I don't really notice men when walking around, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:50 PM
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You said that since casual sex has a lower chance of making a woman orgasm, then that would mean that women with higher libido have no reason to have higher rates of casual sex. I never said that. YOU said that I have a low libido. I said I did not, and that women are unlikely to orgasm from casual sex, which is yet another reason I have no use for it. Nothing in your Tufts link describes "fried dopamine receptors" or asserts that orgasm leads to long- or even medium-term damage, much less chemi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:48 PM
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I implied no such thing. I spoke to my stance on casual sex. It's not my fault you're so bothered by it. I'm not asking for a cite on your opinion of me. I'm asking for a cite on your stance that the amount of sex a person/woman has leads to "fried dopamine receptors." Because that's a load of unscientific b.s., and you should feel embarrassed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:47 PM
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This is my answer as well. I've only in a literal handful of times in my life seen a man so attractive that I paused to think, "wow, he is gorgeous." Mostly, men just fade into nothing, for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:32 PM
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Yeah, men here are missing the fact that most women are attracted to men their own age. As women get older, who we find attractive gets older as well. It really isn't that baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:29 PM
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I mean, this is why the gender ratio in OLD is so skewed. These methods don't really serve women well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:26 PM
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I'm not low libido at all. Women are unlikely to orgasm from casual sex at all, so what in the world would that solve about my libido, anyway? Please cite your dopamine receptor assertion, cause this is the most r/menwritingwomen thing I've read in this sub so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:56 PM
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What does any of this have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:39 PM
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Lol that's a good point. I don't consider that casual sex in that there was an immense amount of screening in order for me to see my clients (when I had a madam, she even required references), there is nothing casual about a minimum of $2k plus a full date (and sometimes airfare, gifts, etc), and the vast majority of my actual sex clients were repeat customers. But I understand why all of that would sound like rationalizing to you. So I should say, casual sex in non-professional contexts does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:33 PM
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Most recent data says 13% for women. And 20% of men cheat. By 60+, that number goes up to 25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:34 AM
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Married couples support each other. I know as many women who supported their men while their men got their degrees, got fired, were too depressed to work, were underemployed, pursuing their dreams, etc. as I do men who supported their women in this way. Realistically, with the state of US income inequality, few people are supporting anyone. Most can't afford to be single income households. That said, there is a bit of a stereotype re women who support their husbands' through school, only for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:14 AM
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Lol just say you have a Madonna-whore complex and get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:08 AM
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But women with low N counts don't sleep with men on early dates. That's the dissonance here. You either get a woman who sleeps with you early, or you get a woman with a low N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:44 AM
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I relate it to the "enjoy the decline" mentality of a good deal of the men here. They have no interest in participating in society in any meaningful way. These are cynics and critics who would rather stoke the files of "decline" due to their own bitterness, misanthropy, and narcissism. These are the men who say women aren't worth 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:25 AM
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Oh, because I was explaining why what other women do sexually is of no real importance to what is important to me as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:21 AM
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Please share these studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:12 AM
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Err, okay. I am a woman, with women friends, and for every 1 woman I know with a high N count, I know 2 whose counts are <10. It just so happens that my anecdote is confirmed by research. I'm still waiting on yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:05 AM
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You don't speak for women as a whole. You're right. I don't. Most fuck around for fun Please cite. As far as the research goes, Millennial women still only have an average of 8 sexual partners. So stop lying. What did I say that's a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:52 AM
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No, and that's not what I meant. I meant that as two separate measures: Reproducing with low value men Getting the run around from low value men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:46 AM
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This is why sex work is not for casuals and why current and former sex workers are making bank on instructing said casuals on the trade. It's literally whoring 101: Don't give sugar without the daddy. Always get cash before service. Yet social media has casuals out here thinking they can just hop onto SA and make easy money, that it's a glamorous lifestyle that doesn't require real business sense or skill. That they can trust clients. That their pussy and femininity alone are enough to make men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:17 AM
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That's fine. A lot of other women are also reproducing and getting the run around with LVM. Let them disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:27 PM
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Yes, many women have rape and rape-lite fantasies. Personally, I have primal and stalk/takedown kinks, but not a consensual non-consent kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:21 PM
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Staying busy can be a bit tricky. Start journaling, starting with a page on why fuckboy isn't for you. Follow with: Page of affirmations (make them meaningful, and add to the page as time goes on) Page of what you deserve/what makes you high quality Page of gratitudes Page of hobbies you'd like to look into and what you'd get out of them Page of short, intermediate, long term goals Page breaking down you intermediate and long term goals into action steps Fuckboys don't occupy worthwhile space in…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/12/19 07:23 PM
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Casual sex is worthless to me as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:13 PM
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Isn't Chad just a man who is hot and tall? And typically white (exemplified by how other races' Chad's have different names)? That seems like the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:44 PM
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Yeah, for sure. I actually agree with you, and I think this is a good example of how the arguments about N counts are reasonable once stripped of misogyny and evopsych pseudoscience. Funnily enough, a man's N count is even more important, because men are most likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:42 PM
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Alpha and beta don't indicate value, is what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:39 PM
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Ahh, yeah, I can see how that was confusing... Quality men were there, yes, but they were such a small fraction of the hundreds of messages that I realized I'd rather meet men IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:38 PM
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Sure, but that makes that alpha low-value, because men are most likely to cheat and a high N count is a risk factor of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:37 PM
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Yes, via OLD, I never had a problem finding quality men. But sleuthing through 100s (in one city, I got 300+ messages in 24 hours of restarting my account) to find the handful of quality men was a pain in the ass. Hence, why I stopped using OLD. If all I wanted was to fuck, that's one thing. In that case, it's absolutely easier for attractive women. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:34 PM
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Neither of these are examples of animals caring about the number of fucks the females have had. Curious about your chimpanzee reference, though, because chimpanzees do not pair-bond and live in mixed-sex social groups where, during estrus, females will mate with a variety of males. And low-ranking males have high reproductive success, while alpha males prefer older females who have successfully bred in the past - though not necessarily with them, since again, chimpanzees have a highly promiscuou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:17 PM
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... It was clearly an example, not a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 03:01 PM
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Yes, her N count does include women. I understand that sexually conservative people want sexually conservative people, etc. That's what I'm saying. That N count approximates this, but it's not the total picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:58 PM
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Please give me an example where this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:55 PM
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I actually disagree with your first statement. N count is a single factor, but it's not a full measure of a human being and human compatibility. For example, my best friend's N count is 4 at 30, but she also spent her 20s partying naked in the kink and gay scenes. Another friend is a conservative Christian, but his N count is over 20, and he has at least 2 illegitimate children out there. Yet another friend has slept with 16 people at 32, but 13 of those people were part of group sex, instigated…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:43 AM
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I, too, cringe at your utter lack of reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:55 AM
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You, like the others who are responding to me, are conflating N counts with monogamy. All this evopsych bullshit and you don't even recognize that most animals only pairbond for a season. If you're worried about your ho wife cheating, that's because you're admitting that you'd make a shit husband. The top reasons for cheating are detachment and low relationship satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:41 AM
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Mate guarding is about monogamy, not about how many times a woman has fucked in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:27 AM
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You seem to be talking about polyamory or some shit, because none of that - allowing other males to be all over their mates, trapezing around other dicks - has anything at all to do with N counts. Alpha males in the wild aren't choosing females on the basis of how many fucks they've had. They go in and, like you literally said, remove the competition. They rule and will maintain that rule until they can no longer fight off other males. Or do you really think that the male lions out there would c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:26 AM
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believe only a virgin/n count 2 max is worth making a girlfriend LOL how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 12:49 AM
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An Alpha man wouldn't give a shit about the low value men that precede him, because he knows he's Alpha. An Alpha man doesn't play games and compete with boys, because there's no competition: he has already won. Maintain frame, bro. Your inner game is obviously lacking if you're out here stressing about long gone dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 12:46 AM
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What country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:46 PM
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It's easy to worry about lying, but that is outside of your control and therefore not worth any active anxiety. The only thing you can ever control is yourself. It's a hard lesson, but we should all internalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:45 PM
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Do you mind if I ask your N count threshold for women? Like, even if a woman had only had sex in committed, long-term relationships, if she started dating at 16, her N count may very well be 5 people (assuming each relationship was 2 years long). Would that be okay with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I mean, if the whole N count debate were stripped of it's misogyny, I think it's fine. You should have whatever preferences and boundaries that suit your values. No one is entitled to anything, and that means women aren't entitled to you, should you be uncomfortable with them for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:29 PM
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I hate N counts cause men online are so freaking obsessed with it. They're obsessed with their own N counts, with other mens N counts, with women's N counts. It's all wrapped up into an odd, immature circle jerk where men use women's sexuality to compete with other men and get mad at women for not gatekeeping their pussy hard enough. Then the same men will bitch and moan when THEY are subject to pussy gatekeeping. They'll tell women here in PPD that waiting until the third date is outrageous and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:21 PM
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I'm not mad, lol, and I'm not a girl. I'm a woman bored at night shift, amused at how you've shown your hand. None of this has ever been in good faith. There is no debate. This is you ignoring anything inconvenient to your narrow reality, monologuing, and showing that at the end of the day, your end goal is to hate women. Funny how that goes. Women are selfish, hypocritical bitches if they say no to splitting, and they're ugly if they say yes. I'm done here. You're literally an idiot, Ched.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:17 AM
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LOL what a wild ride. You legit just typed up some weird ass RP power fantasy. And for what? Why? I'm a woman. I care about bills and how resources are pooled in a relationship. There's no spinning here, dude. Oh, and I go Dutch on the first date. In fact, I require it. But you go on with your bad self, "Chad." I hope you figure out how to manage that blood pressure of yours, cause you're gonna work yourself into an early grave this way. And maybe when you do, I hope the woman in your life only …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:57 AM
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but you don't wanna pay $20 and you will base your whole life on that one single thing. It's not a single thing. Your post text proposes splitting every single time. THAT is what I was responding to, and THAT is what would be unacceptable to me for a LTR. Nice little "P.S." distribe, in any case. It's rare someone so clearly states that they aren't posting in good faith. Then again, that was pretty clear in how you've managed to work yourself up and not respond to anything that I said that incon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:26 AM
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Wandered New Orleans by my self when I was 13 years old trying to find Trent Reznor's house. Ahhhh, omg, I did this, too - also at 13, weirdly enough. I also went hunting for Anne Rice's house.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:08 AM
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There's splitting the bill and then there's calculating how much of the bill should be covered by how much we earn, and then going further to do this about 100% of all checks. That is pinching pennies. It's tedious and tiring, and it's not how I want to live my life. Like, how many dates (weeks, months, years?) before you decide if a woman is special? What about when she has your kid and has to take some time off work post-delivery? What about if you lose your job and have to rely on her income …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:05 AM
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Is there a question here? What type of responses are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:43 AM
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Dude, I don't know where you've been that you think only women react poorly to being rejected. Men also flip their shit. It's so common that there are whole ass subs, IG accounts, Facebook groups, and memes about men reacting poorly to women rejecting them. Turns out, shitty people will be shit. Entitled people will act entitled. It's inappropriate no matter what gender is doing the rejecting and what gender is reacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:39 AM
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Soooo, you're not actually responding to the OP and are instead ranting about something else that you've clearly worked yourself up about? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:32 AM
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Woman, somewhere between Purple Pill (for the het world) and no pill (cause these days, my world is too gay for the pills). It's okay - for other people, I'm sure. I wouldn't accept this arrangement for a LTR, because I have no interest in people who pinch pennies. This is a fast track to a miserable existence of IOUs and implicit debts, and it is contrary to the way I conduct my close relationships. Even among good friends, we don't nickle and dime each other like this, so why would I ostensibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:30 AM
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The question wasn't women not paying for anything. The question was about always, 100% of the time splitting costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:05 AM
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Other than literal whoring (aka sex work): Hitchhiked through the US. Trainhopping. Let homeless strangers into my home to shower, sleep. Couchsurfing. Not testing my molly. Was party to riots in the U.S. and Europe. Serve as a street medic for protests in the U.S. Travelled alone through the US with just my camping gear and motorcycle. Left the strip club with a drug dealer I just met to cuddle him through his bad coke trip. Did a lot of walking very late at night in cities, sometimes very drun…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:14 AM
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As a nurse, I feel it is my duty to tell you that if you're experiencing any unusual burning, you should please consult with a medical provider immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:38 AM
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Why are you guessing when you're talking to the woman making this statement? Just ask her why she has this preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:12 AM
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Exactly. So many men online reference this exact study as confirmation of their biases, yet lo and behold, turns out they're entirely capable of critiquing the research and it's validity once it no longer mirrors their worldview. Turns out they care less about actual research and more about their echo chamber assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:02 AM
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So no matter what, it's the woman's fault? Lol ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:41 PM
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It's already happening worldwide: women in China, S Korea, and Japan are refusing to marry. Older women (divorcees, widows) are significantly less likely to want to marry, compared similarly-situated men their age. Women my age (30+) are already exploring it. It's the straight women who continue to hold out. All the bi women in my age group who aren't already in LTR with men have ceased to date men at all, or ceased to view men as good life partners. I'm personally included in this last demograp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:19 PM
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You're not wrong about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:50 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. I'm not Blue Pill at all. I only know what I saw and experienced, from work and from my male friends, and that's that there are men with good, happy marriages who still want to spin plates. Why shouldn't they? Doesn't TRP remind us women of the wall constantly and say that all women have to offer are looks and sex and that the rest doesn't matter? If that's the case, no shit there will be men out there who don't appreciate "the rest" that their wife is giving and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:48 PM
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That's fine. You don't have to. My original point still stands. Keep your $5 coffee standards. More power to you and to the women who you attract and accept that. For women whose standards are different, more power to them and the men they attract. Literally no one should be telling anyone to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:02 AM
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I've never had an attractive, outgoing man with options not offer to pay. The only people I've come across who don't offer are ugly, socially awkward "late bloomers" who think I'm after his wallet as though I'm not a grown ass woman with a grown ass woman's paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:20 AM
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I sort of wanted them to just call me on my shit. If you end up pursuing therapy again, feel free to ask for this. I did with my last 2, and I found that this helped me get what I needed out of the sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:01 AM
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I'd be chill with that. My biggest concern would be why he was still counting after 100. That just seems neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:08 PM
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Link? I'm genuinely curious, cause I haven't seen that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:03 PM
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I'm not gonna comb through threads, but I've seen it said as comments and upvoted a good deal. I also explicitly and expressly did NOT say this was an average for IRL men. I said SOME men do this. SOME men also use the first date to weed out hypothetical "gold diggers," as per your comment. However, these two together creates uncertainty for women dating IRL. In either case of type of man, a woman is weeding out the riffraff, as is their prerogative. As it is men's prerogative, when men play the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:57 PM
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No, I mean, I have requirements for when I date and love men. If the man meets those requirements, his n count doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:35 PM
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100+ makes for a lot of orgies. Color me impressed. There are very few men out there with 100+ n counts by 25, much less by 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:19 PM
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Are these your numbers for women, as well? In any case, yeah, I'd marry a guy who had a high N count, so long as he met my requirements for dating and loving men in the first place. N counts don't matter to me as much as the type of man they are and how they treat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:52 PM
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What is a "high" n count in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:44 PM
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Jesus. You're 22 and your male partners have 100+ n counts? How old are the men you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:43 PM
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There's oneitis, of course. There's also a thing that happens with some or even many men who leave their first wives because they're tired of the responsibility, want to play the field, have gotten used to attention of young, half-naked women at strip clubs... Only to realize they miss their ex-wife. They realize how set they were with a woman who cooked for him and cared for him, who had stayed with him through the hard times, had borne his progeny and made his life better and easier. They real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:10 PM
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I mean, sure, but again, I've read men here and in TRP boasting about how women accepting a $5 coffee first date is women demonstrating the low value of their pussy. Conversely, this demonstrates that men show how much they value a woman through how much he's willing to pay on the first date. So that $5 meetup is both how some men gauge whether someone is a gold digger (though, lol, the average man doesn't have nearly so much gold as to worry about this) AND how some men gauge whether a woman is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 07:01 PM
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Yep. FDS also doesn't talk about $300 first dates. They just saying, don't settle for $5 coffee dates, cause men of TRP and PPD will then write about how pussy only cost them $5. Both are just talking about standards. Everyone should have these standards: don't date someone you're not attracted to, don't fuck someone who thinks you're the equivalent of a cheap whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 05:48 PM
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"BUHHHH DAS NOT REAL FEMINISM REEEEE". Grow up, kid. Feminism isn't a single movement anymore. There is a shitton of debate even among self-described feminists. That's not to say one isn't the real feminism, just that they're all feminism. Feminism is only an umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 05:46 PM
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The year after graduating, I was making ~200k a year, which even for my Ivy League education, is significant. I paid off my loans immediately and ended up owning my own high rise condo in a main coastal city by 25. In addition to my investments, which set me up to a fast track to an early retirement, I was able to put enough away to cover my 3 year grad program plus all living expenses. I had an immense amount of freedom and was able to travel the world and even, like, helped pay off my mom's ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 06:32 AM
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Yes. I think about them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 05:19 AM
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Yeah, I drifted from 22-27. Basically, I got my undergraduate degree, transitioned into stripping and eventually other forms of sex work, and I spent 5 years traveling the US and the world. Sex work meant I could travel and keep on working. I ended up with a few sugar daddies, who helped pay off my condo. I did a lot of drugs, drank a lot of booze, enjoyed being young and carefree. I entered my grad program at 27, finished my degree at 30 (it was a 3 year degree), and I've been working full time…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 04:14 AM
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I'm a woman who grew up in the streets, and yeah. I relate to all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:58 AM
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Really? Not any man at all? How old are you? I know a lot of men for whom marriage is meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:54 AM
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Yeah, exactly. If the woman's face isn't friendly and she's staring, it's damn well likely that she ISN'T staring due to attraction, which is case, there's nothing to admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:52 PM
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In the impossible chance that, within my lifetime, white supremacy is no longer the dominant framework in the U.S. and is in fact replaced with another "racial" supremacy, I would continue to center the most marginalized. This would mean dating white women and no longer dating whoever was of the dominant supremacist category.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:24 PM
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Tldr There is no research to confirm by biases but women are sometimes mean so that means men are more selfless. I think it's great how TRP likes to talk like this shit is rooted in science, but really it just boils down to feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 05:53 PM
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But how can you observe it, if according to you, women alter their behavior when they're being observed? And if it's observable, why isn't there research confirming your assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 04:59 PM
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Is this your way of saying that these assertions are impossible to study and therefore are only true because y'all say it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 04:30 PM
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I harbor neither bias nor prejudice against people on the basis of their race, ethnicity, or culture. My values do not hinge on the devaluing of others; they merely guide my priorities. So, yeah, I'd say I'm less of a racist and more in the targeted universalism camp. Still, I don't care if white folks do think I'm racist, so I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 04:29 PM
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lol funny to hear that from someone who bitches left and right about nonwhites. Wasn't it you who said this past week that white men should prioritize white women, and ethnic men should do the same for their women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 03:50 PM
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Men may likely be the more romantic gender in that they're more likely to believe in things like love at first sight, but JFC, they did not "invent poetry." There's also no good research on which gender is more selfless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:45 PM
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I don't know any woman who thinks marriage doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 03:44 AM
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In my experience, what people want the most is to be seen and wanted and loved by others. This is true regardless of gender. This is the center of interest for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 03:16 AM
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The first BBC of a white woman's porn career, she gets paid a large amount, but she's then paid less after that first BBC than she would have earned if she hadn't fucked a black man. At least, this was the case at the main porn studios 4 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 03:10 AM
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feminism cheapened the value of motherhood. Strong disagree. Only in feminist movements have I seen people quantify childrearing in dollar amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 03:05 AM
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I already answered this question. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 02:52 AM
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I invest my time, energy, money, labor, body, and love in women who are the most marginalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 12:00 AM
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Your link is only about federal cases. It doesn't cover state cases in criminal courts, which comprise the largest burden of mass incarceration. I am not at my computer right now, but I've seen the arrest and detention stats for victims of child sexual exploitation (white girls are diverted through social services while black girls are arrested, detained, and incarcerated) and re drug cases. I'll find the papers later if I remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:51 PM
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All we have in life to understand each other is language. Semantics are important. I have already said how my dating practices reflect my "feminist" values. I'm uncertain as to what else you're asking here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:40 PM
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I mean, there's no such thing as "helping" feminism. Feminism is an ideology. It can't be helped; it can only be defined and practiced. People, on the other hand, can be helped. I help (and love and invest my energy and time and body into) BIWOC, because my "feminism" doesn't center whiteness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:29 PM
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Lol, no one said anything about men being responsible to do anything. The thread is Q4All.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:22 PM
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Women are also not a monolith, and not all women are given such leniency. Black girls and women are more likely to be arrested and imprisoned than white girls and women. Incarceration of men of all races is plateauing, but women's incarceration is continuing to rise. I say this not to debate, just to give some food for thought to add some nuance to your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:19 PM
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It doesn't "help" feminism. It's merely indicative of how and with whom I invest my time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:15 PM
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Thank you. I do try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 09:49 PM
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Not the person you're replying to, but I do think it could be possible if we work for it. Porn can be ethical when the performers write and negotiate their own scripts and get paid royalties, versus in lump sum. Porn can be ethical when performers unionize. Porn can be ethical when shady managers are ousted. Porn can be ethical when black women aren't paid less than white women, or when after a white woman does a single scene with a black man, her going rates decrease. Sex work in general is mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 09:49 PM
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Interesting! Using your parents as your central example made me think you were much younger. Esp cause your parents, who I imagine are elderly, are actually not a good example for current gender/relationship dynamics. They're more an example of prior generations' dynamics. I may be biased, in any case, because I work to make and maintain friendships with healthy, well-adjusted adults. I know plenty of unhealthy relationships, but I wouldn't say they were unhealthy at all due to gender dynamics. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:50 PM
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Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:55 PM
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I haven't done anything "for feminism." I've only acted according to my values, which are more various than mainstream feminist movements but do intersect. My values mean: I don't fuck men who are anti-abortion. I don't fuck men who are misogynists. In kink contexts, I only sub to women dominants. I don't date or fuck white women. I donate money to BIPOC causes often. As a former escort, I spent some time with incel clientele and did actual relationship coaching with them, despite the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:53 PM
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Yes, of course men and women are compatible. I find it really worrying that people on this sub even have that question. I know many good, happy romantic relationships between men and women, and I know even more good, healthy friendships between men and women. There is not nearly so much hostility as the internet would have us believe. Being independent doesn't mean not being useful, either. There are few things as beautiful to behold as two people who have come together not out of codependence, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:58 PM
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Getting rich is only partially what I cost, which I stated in the comment you replied to. Getting rich was also about saving, investing, and knowing how to leverage my worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:07 AM
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I'm sorry you value men so little.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:56 AM
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Compliment them for a job well done. For doing well at that meeting. For rocking that presentation. For managing the team. For their critical input into the project. For their insight. For their growth. For how they inspire others. Mindless compliments lose value, but ones that recognize effort and growth don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:55 AM
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Or maybe: Immature people of all genders play games in an attempt to navigate sexual and romantic relationships. I know young women who play games. I know young men who play games. They're all just scrambling in the dark instead of having real, healthy, adult conversations. The response to games shouldn't be to create a weird cycle of gaming. It should be to break through the bullshit and just say what you mean and ask for what you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 07:14 PM
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Errr, bisexual women here, and literally every single conversation topic you listed having with men, I've had with women. Including when on dates with women. In my experience, there are few people as self-centered as a man who thinks he's smarter than he is. I've also not found any different in conversation quality between dating men and women, other than men like to show off and nitpick, while women actually engage when it's clear there's space for conversation and not just debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 05:00 PM
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